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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: sueño on January 10, 2020, 02:14:56 PM
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:omg: :(
"Rush's Neil Peart, the Hall of Fame drummer who set a new standard for rock virtuosity, has died at age 67"
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-peart-rush-obituary-936221/
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Suddenly you were gone
From all the lives you left your mark upon
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WHAT
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Gutted.
Can’t believe it.
Excuse me while I go cry for two days.
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WHAT
THE FUCK?
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This one hurts.
RIP Professor.
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We will all miss 'The Professor'.
The decades of air drumming to 'Xanadu' and 'Tom Sawyer' and........
Glad I got to see him and the boys back in the 70s, the 90s, and their two most recent tours.
It has been an 'era' of so many artists of our youth passing away. This one really stings.
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I'm seeing a Rush tribute band tonight of all things.
R.I.P. Professor.
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I'm devastated...
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Suddenly you were gone
From all the lives you left your mark upon
Posted this very quote to Facebook when my dad died a few weeks ago. Still can’t think about those lines without tearing up.
Neil left a mark upon my life and his lyrics and drumming opened up this huge world of music for me.
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This is absolutely heartbreaking to hear at the start of 2020.
Rest in peace, Neil. Thanks for everything.
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OMG This is terrible news I saw them so many times since 1981
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Poor guy. First wife and daughter die. Finally retired to spend time with the new family and battles brain cancer for 3 years.
Best of all time or at least top 3 for me.
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As a drummer who has been influenced by his playing (as have countless other drummers), this is a sad reality. We all have to go at some time, but it's never easy when that time comes.
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Wow. There are no words.....
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As sad as I am by this, I feel like he lived the life he wanted to live and on the terms he set forth. He was obviously dealt a considerable amount of tragedy, but I think, overall, he lived the best life he could have and that's pretty damn awesome.
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Like I am sure everyone here, I am in tears as Moving Pictures spins. RIP Neil. Godspeed, and thank you for sharing your musical talent with us. :heart
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Fuck. Brain cancer (battling for 3 yrs). No wonder he wanted to retire and spend time with his family.
The "positive thing" is that now he is at peace with his other family (first wife and daughter). Sadly, he leaves his younger child and 2nd wife...
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I honestly didn't even know he was diagnosed with brain cancer. Of all things, brain cancer. That's a one-two punch to read about.
After reading his book Ghost Rider and making my journey through the Rush discography a couple years ago, I became an enormous fan of his. It seems like he really did live the life he wanted to live, and on his own terms, just like Adami said. I think that's exactly what he wanted, and he was blessed with a gargantuan talent for music, writing, and an appreciation for the world. Bless him. Glad he can finally rest.
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Just unbelievable. He was a few weeks younger than my dad, died a few weeks after my dad, and died of cancer like my dad. The measure of a life...
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Geez, Aaron, didn't know you just went through that. So sorry to hear.
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Saw this news and it reminded me of you guys, which is nice at least. Hope everyone is doing great.
RIP legend.
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Wow, I'm at a loss.... R.I.P. Neil, thank you for sharing your gift with the world.
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I don't even know what to say.
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I honestly didn't even know he was diagnosed with brain cancer.
Did anyone? Aside from the obvious people.
Achingly sad news :'(
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And he left this world quietly, as his persona was. Man, shocking and very sad news. Difficult to grasp and put into words.
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oh shit :(
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I honestly didn't even know he was diagnosed with brain cancer.
Did anyone? Aside from the obvious people.
Achingly sad news :'(
I wasn't sure if it was publicly announced and I had missed it, or if (which I'm starting to think is what happened) Neil just kept it completely secret from most people, which sounds much more like Neil.
This is just heartbreaking, but I'm glad he's no longer suffering above all else.
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The most devastating one yet. I’m at a complete loss right now. His drumming spoke to me before I even knew what was being said. One of my biggest drumming heroes. Rush in Peace.
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I honestly didn't even know he was diagnosed with brain cancer.
Did anyone? Aside from the obvious people.
Achingly sad news :'(
I wasn't sure if it was publicly announced and I had missed it, or if (which I'm starting to think is what happened) Neil just kept it completely secret from most people, which sounds much more like Neil.
This is just heartbreaking, but I'm glad he's no longer suffering above all else.
Only those the closest to him, I'd wager.
Not enough emojis to choose from :-\
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Wow, that's so shockingly sad. RIP Neil. Was never a Rush fan but respect the hell out of the band and what he meant to drummers. :(
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Shit....
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The most devastating one yet.
Right up there with Dio's passing, which to me was an absolute killer.
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Oh my God. I am really torn up about this. RIP Legend.
But it's nice to see a Scurvy Dreams appearance! I just hate that it took this tragedy to see it!
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In total shock. Thoughts and prayers with Olivia and Carrie. What a loss to rock music, Rush are legends in this community, and I imagine a lot of people on this forum will be feeling this one.
RIP Professor, you will be missed.
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Just sharing what I put on Facebook because it's hard to write anything else right now through the tears.
It's hard to come to grips with how devastating news like this can be when it's someone you've never met. It would be hard for me to quantify what Rush and Neil meant to me as a person since I truly began my journey through music with them in 2003.
Neil was one of two drummers I have always looked to to simply say THIS is what drums can mean to music. I have never played drums as more than a hobby, but Neil was always a source of inspiration and always a pleasure to listen to.
I know Neil only passed now, but he truly went out with grace in 2015 when he went out on a final tour and meant it. He knew he was at the end of his ability to play to a level of his satisfaction, fought through the pain, made a farewell to the fans happen and hung up the sticks.
On several occasions in the past I've done runs through Rush's discography, and tonight I start what may very well be my last one until that awful day when these awful feelings come up again with the passing of Alex or Geddy. Tonight, for this discography run only, I celebrate of Neil's life by beginning with Fly By Night, after "the new guy" joined the band. RIP Neil.
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Man, No wonder he decided it was time to retire.
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Awful news. I owe my username on this board to the man.
Mad respect to one of the greatest artists of our lifetime. RIP
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OMG RIP!!!
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Wow. Really heartbroken and the looks of all of the usernames on reading this thread, everyone is obviously. At least, he retired on his own terms and not end up being a washed-up and broke musician.
RIP Pratt.
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Prog's most intellectual lyricist IMHO. Thanks for these, Neil.
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Ugghh! Damn. One of my musical hero's. Right beside
Bonham in terms of influence. I can't even guess as
to the thousands of hours I've spent analyzing
and learning his parts.
RIP
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Some would say he wrote more worthy lyrics, but this is one of my personal favourites.
Summer's going fast
Nights growing colder
Children growing up
Old friends growing older
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The story says he died 3 days ago??
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so does Rush's Facebook feed: "It is with broken hearts and the deepest sadness that we must share the terrible news that on Tuesday our friend, soul brother and band mate of over 45 years, Neil, has lost his incredibly brave three and a half year battle with brain cancer (Glioblastoma). We ask that friends, fans, and media alike understandably respect the family’s need for privacy and peace at this extremely painful and difficult time. Those wishing to express their condolences can choose a cancer research group or charity of their choice and make a donation in Neil Peart's name.
Rest in peace brother.
Neil Peart September 12, 1952 - January 7, 2020"
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I'm stuck at work right now, having to keep myself composed, but I am breaking on the inside. Neil was my inspiration for drumming, and for living for many years of my high school and college life. I can hardly believe it...
Rest in peace, Professor. Truly one I will miss...
-Marc.
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Wow, he died on Tuesday and we're just hearing it now. Wouldn't expect less from him to keep things personal and private.
Reading all of the monsters of music share their love and thoughts about him on Twitter is tough. He was so loved.
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The story says he died 3 days ago??
Yup, January 7th.
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The story says he died 3 days ago??
How does that even happen in this day and age? Leave it to Neil, though.
There's another guy at my office who feels the same way. We're like, how are we supposed to get anything done the rest of the day?
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I'm sad and I'm not even a fan of the band. Such iconic, legendary and worldwide respected musicians, for all they gave, should all deserve a quiet and peaceful ending well into their 90s.
I look back on when we lost Dio and I can imagine how you all must feel. Another sad day in music history.
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RIP Neal. I have no words. I was lucky enough to see them live once and enjoy their music and their amazing good vibes. Devastating
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The story says he died 3 days ago??
How does that even happen in this day and age? Leave it to Neil, though.
There's another guy at my office who feels the same way. We're like, how are we supposed to get anything done the rest of the day?
I think it has to do with the fact that those who loved Rush see their work as "close companions" or whatever you choose to describe it. This is where the degree of shock will show itself, so you feel stunned and can't do anything.
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The story says he died 3 days ago??
How does that even happen in this day and age? Leave it to Neil, though.
There's another guy at my office who feels the same way. We're like, how are we supposed to get anything done the rest of the day?
I told a few people not to bother me the rest of the day, and I'm just cranking RUSH. Man. Just man...
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So sad he didn't get to enjoy life off the road for many, many years. :( I hope he spent his last few years in peace, with great health care and relative content, as much as he could have had in the circumstances.
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Rush's website has crashed. In a way, it makes me feel good to know that the man is having this kind of impact on people.
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It feels like part of my life has come to an end.....
Fan since 1974, saw them live for the first time 1979 on the Pinkpop festival in Holland. Never missed a Rush concert in Holland since then.
Sad, no words.
MH
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Just sharing what I put on Facebook because it's hard to write anything else right now through the tears.
It's hard to come to grips with how devastating news like this can be when it's someone you've never met. It would be hard for me to quantify what Rush and Neil meant to me as a person since I truly began my journey through music with them in 2003.
Neil was one of two drummers I have always looked to to simply say THIS is what drums can mean to music. I have never played drums as more than a hobby, but Neil was always a source of inspiration and always a pleasure to listen to.
I know Neil only passed now, but he truly went out with grace in 2015 when he went out on a final tour and meant it. He knew he was at the end of his ability to play to a level of his satisfaction, fought through the pain, made a farewell to the fans happen and hung up the sticks.
On several occasions in the past I've done runs through Rush's discography, and tonight I start what may very well be my last one until that awful day when these awful feelings come up again with the passing of Alex or Geddy. Tonight, for this discography run only, I celebrate of Neil's life by beginning with Fly By Night, after "the new guy" joined the band. RIP Neil.
That's a nice write-up, Nick.
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Sort of explains everything. You have to admire both his integrity - he never wanted to live in the public eye, and withheld this most personal of information - and that of his friends and band members. Just imagine what all those interviews over the past three years or so have been like for them, or the constant rumors (Mike just spoke of one a week or so ago).
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Devastating. Neil was the best in so many things.
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Sort of explains everything. You have to admire both his integrity - he never wanted to live in the public eye, and withheld this most personal of information - and that of his friends and band members. Just imagine what all those interviews over the past three years or so have been like for them, or the constant rumors (Mike just spoke of one a week or so ago).
I was thinking the same exact thing.
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Saw them every time through Seattle since Presto. Beyond crushed.
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There are no words other than to say he was the best drummer I've ever seen live. I had the good fortune to see Rush 16 times since 1988, and they always put on one hell of a show, particularly Neil, even when it was obvious that he no longer liked the rigors of touring.
If there can be a bright side, we can say that Rush was a band that produced a body of excellent work and were able to go out on their own terms, with one of their best tours in 2015, one that nicely summed up the career of the band far more than any formal "farewell" tour ever could.
RIP Neil. May you have killer drum duels with Buddy Rich, Keith Moon and John Bonham.
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So sad. Saw them during their final tour a few years ago. Awesome. Our local MPR station is playing 2112 now.
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Just heard the word and I am extremely sad right now. Neil's music has meant so much to me for so long.
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I’m absolutely devastated.
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I'm speechless. Don't know what else to say. Seriously devastated.
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Truly devastating news...
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To add some brevity to this sad day.
It reminds me of the ongoing argument I had through high school with another student who claimed Tommy Lee was a MUCH superior drummer to Neil.
In grade 13 he finally admitted his error.
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The Garden was his closer. I'll be reading the lyrics
and spinning the song tonight.
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The Garden was his closer. I'll be reading the lyrics
and spinning the song tonight.
:heart
Playing Clockwork now. A few more songs until it finishes...
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Holy fuckin’ shit! I just found out about this now? Excuse me while I go crawl back to the fucking rock I was living under.
Fuck me!! So sad... :( :( :(
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I just stared at the title of this thread and was afraid to open it. I just couldn't wrap my head around it actually being true. Man, all this time, since the retirement, I've just assumed he was rocking life with his new family. His death hits hard, but to know he's been suffering since we last saw him feels like a huge punch in the gut. It's going to be difficult to keep my act together until the work day is over.
Rush has been a huge part of some of greatest times of my life, largely due to Neils talent and imagination. It feels like some of my youth has been ripped away.
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It feels like some of my youth has been ripped away.
Totally. Finishing up Hemispheres now, and I remember listening to this on 8 Track as an 11 y/o.
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Man, I hope someone manages to pull Mike Portnoy away from all news sources for a while so he doesn't have to find out right now. That's his hero. Feel so sad for others whose lives were touched by NP as well, if we're crushed, can't imagine how someone who knew him must be feeling.
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Man, I hope someone manages to pull Mike Portnoy away from all news sources for a while so he doesn't have to find out right now. That's his hero. Feel so sad for others whose lives were touched by NP as well, if we're crushed, can't imagine how someone who knew him must be feeling.
he was one of MM's heroes as well (which we definitely can hear on ADTOE and DT12 the most, and on parts of Barstool as well), don't forget that please.
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God is dead. So sad. :'( RIP NP
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Man, I hope someone manages to pull Mike Portnoy away from all news sources for a while so he doesn't have to find out right now. That's his hero. Feel so sad for others whose lives were touched by NP as well, if we're crushed, can't imagine how someone who knew him must be feeling.
He already knows and he posted a heartfelt comment on FB. He even knew of his illness so in a sense he was prepared for the worst.
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Wow, that sinking feeling when you open DTF and see a thread title like this. Wow, such an icon, such a legend, such an innovator, such a role model, such a unique individual, such a writer, such a human.
RIP Neil. Only 67 and brain cancer. What a cruel cruel life this is sometimes.
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I don’t know what to say...but how can I say nothing. I bawled my eyes out at work and had to leave early.
Only my best friend and my father dying have ever hit me harder than this.
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RIP
Glad to have been able to see him live.
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RIP
Glad to have been able to see him live.
I only got to see them once, on the Snakes and Arrows tour, but I'm so glad I got to see that show. Setlist was killer, and it was such a great vibe.
NP: Freeze.
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I'm beyond devastated. If I think way back to my musical beginnings, to 6 or 7 year old me and four older brothers pushing their musical tastes, it began with Yes, The Who, and Rush. Everything I've loved since then has been shaded through those windows. And it's not just his drumming, his lyrics helped a very confused teen make sense of a world that I really didn't feel I belonged in.
Got a lone tear rolling down my cheek for ya Professor :heart
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He already knows and he posted a heartfelt comment on FB. He even knew of his illness so in a sense he was prepared for the worst.
Ow, that just breaks my heart.
he was one of MM's heroes as well (which we definitely can hear on ADTOE and DT12 the most, and on parts of Barstool as well), don't forget that please.
Sorry, didn't mean to forget MM, it's just that MP and NP always had a very special relationship and MP talked about it a lot, so he was the first that came to mind.
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He already knows and he posted a heartfelt comment on FB. He even knew of his illness so in a sense he was prepared for the worst.
Ow, that just breaks my heart.
he was one of MM's heroes as well (which we definitely can hear on ADTOE and DT12 the most, and on parts of Barstool as well), don't forget that please.
Sorry, didn't mean to forget MM, it's just that MP and NP always had a very special relationship and MP talked about it a lot, so he was the first that came to mind.
of course, it's only natural (science? I guess not. Instinct rather, pardon the pun) and yes it is disheartening.
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It feels like some of my youth has been ripped away.
Totally. Finishing up Hemispheres now, and I remember listening to this on 8 Track as an 11 y/o.
My cousin owned the 8 track of Hemispheres. I listened to is all the time.
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I started out buying 8 tracks, and had them all up through Exit Stage Left. Signals was the first Rush cassette I bought.
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I remember being a teenage and being told by several people to listen to Rush. Then, when visiting Florida, I was in a market and found a used CD of Hemispheres. I remember putting it on later that night for the first time and being blown away.
Needless to say, my musical world would never be the same again.
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I remember being a teenage and being told by several people to listen to Rush. Then, when visiting Florida, I was in a market and found a used CD of Hemispheres. I remember putting it on later that night for the first time and being blown away.
Needless to say, my musical world would never be the same again.
ah yes that first chord of Hemispheres. Lovely. JP mentioned it lots of times as well (and the impact that the album and the piece had on him)
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Terrible news, i'm shocked, So sad. RIP Professor!
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This year already began badly.. Total shock.
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Saw this on Instagram and couldn't believe it, had to check both Wikipedia and DTF inmediately to confirm if it was true. What a sad day for the prog/drumming/music communities in general. Even if you weren't a big fan of him or Rush, nobody can't deny the huge impact Neil had in countless musicians for decades.
As a sort of tribute, I've been cranking DT's version of Xanadu on repeat since finding out about his passing :'(
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Saw this on Instagram and couldn't believe it, had to check both Wikipedia and DTF inmediately to confirm if it was true. What a sad day for the prog/drumming/music communities in general. Even if you weren't a big fan of him or Rush, nobody can't deny the huge impact Neil had in countless musicians for decades.
As a sort of tribute, I've been cranking DT's version of Xanadu on repeat since finding out about his passing :'(
which is the greatest tribute they ever were paid IMHO.
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The ONLY other celebrity death that hit me like this was Chris Squire.
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Saw this on Instagram and couldn't believe it, had to check both Wikipedia and DTF inmediately to confirm if it was true. What a sad day for the prog/drumming/music communities in general. Even if you weren't a big fan of him or Rush, nobody can't deny the huge impact Neil had in countless musicians for decades.
As a sort of tribute, I've been cranking DT's version of Xanadu on repeat since finding out about his passing :'(
which is the greatest tribute they ever were paid IMHO.
The band are most likely together in this very moment, as the tour resumes tomorrow in the Netherlands. I expect them to mention this at the show and TSCO will surely hit harden than ever for most...
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They might even add in a Rush piece during the encore as a tribute (we know about their influence on DT in more ways than one), who knows?
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MP's post about Neil was really nice.
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What did he say? Is the some sort of link?
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Here's a link from his Instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7J6UBBjLbe/?utm_source=ig_embed
It absolutely breaks my heart to pieces to get the news of the passing of one of my greatest heroes of all time. Neil Peart will always be a mentor and a hero to me and his influence on me as a drummer for the past 40 years is absolutely impossible to measure.
But beyond that, over the past 15 years or so, he’s become a friend...always such a gentleman and a gracious host. Always inviting me to come to soundcheck and spend some time before the show whenever Rush was passing through. Always sending complimentary copies of his new books, or Holiday emails with pictures of he and his young daughter Olivia.
I have so many memories through the years, but probably the most Special was the last time I saw him. I took my son Max to see Rush on their farewell tour as I wanted him to see the band before they retired...Neil ever the incredible gracious host invited us to soundcheck, let Max play his drums, gave him a pair of sticks and an autographed snare drum head and opened up his dressing room to us for the evening. The point is, if you were his guest you were family.
I could go on and on and on but I need to process this.
Sadly, I’ve known about Neil’s declining health for a few years now and always feared this news...but I am still shaken to the core in shock.
My deepest condolences go out to Geddy and Alex, to Carrie and Olivia, to Michael and Lorne and Chris S, to Ray and Pegi, and to all of his faithful fans all around the world of which I will always be one of the biggest.
Rest In Peace Bubba
You will always be my hero
RIP Neil Peart
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Classy post by Mike. And shows what a humble, gentle, wonderful man Neil was.
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Max is one lucky f'ing kid... how many people can say they played The Professor's drums?!
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Thanks for the link Ang!
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Shockingly sad news. As others have already said, he was a private mang. It's no wonder us fans didn't know what was going on with him. I can't imagine how his wife and kid must be feeling.
Looks like I'll be listening to a lot of Rush over the next week.
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:'(
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I'm currently watching Anatomy Of A Drum Solo, which I haven't seen in probably a decade or more. It feels surreal that he's gone. I love "Der Trommler" so much, probably one of my favorite drum solos of all time.
-Marc.
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Actually saw a post on Twitter that made me chuckle, which is tough regarding this:
I can’t help thinking he’s chuckling somewhere knowing hundreds of bands with gigs tonight are trying to figure out “an easy Rush song.”
Ain't that the truth.
Had to run out for a bit and curated an on-the-fly playlist to encapsulate the moment:
Afterimage -> Ghost Rider -> Nobody's Hero. Then decided to go to his final studio work with Headlong Flight -> Clockwork Angels -> The Garden
The man was a machine and never lost a step while he was playing. Man, this sucks.
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Neil's status as a legendary drummer is more than obvious, and well deserved, but for me the thing that really made me a huge fan of not only him, but of Rush themselves, were his lyrics. I have long said he is one of my two favorite lyricists (he and Roger Waters are 1a and 1b), and that remains true to this day. Territories, Subdivisions, Limelight, Mission, Marathon, Losing It, The Pass, 2112, Everyday Glory, Time Stand Still, etc. So many great songs with great lyrics. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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So sad for the loss of a LEGEND and incredible inspiration.... RIP :'(
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So fortunate that my wife and I got to see the final tour in Atlanta. Rush is the band that seeing them live is so much better than the studio albums. RIP Neil
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Beyond upsetting news. He had a talent few others could hold a candle to. One of the greats.
Thanks for the music, Mr. Peart. :heart
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Healing a little bit tonight.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4NBkmjkF/20200110-201926.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzB62PKj)
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Cool Joe. Who and where?
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Lotus Land in Derry, N.H. at Tupelo Music Hall.
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"I can't pretend a stranger is a long awaited friend..." Yet somehow, even though I never met Neil, I feel as though I've lost a friend.
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Well loved by many. Beyond respected by millions. The measure of his life is well past massive.
Neil’s lyrics and Rush’s music is what unlocked the door of exploring my own musical tastes. So thankful for his amazing body of work. Saddened of course at his passing, but heartbroken to think of what he and his family/friends have endured for the past three years. May he rest peacefully.
Goodbye, Professor. Thanks for all the music and the impact you had on my and many, many other lives.
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Dreamliner came up as I pressed Shuffle on the Rush catalog
When we are young
Wandering the face of the earth
Wondering what our dreams might be worth
Learning that we're only immortal
For a limited time
:'(
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dang, this one stings. Same cancer my mom had, too.
I can't imagine a 3.5 year battle with that type of brain cancer after seeing what it did to my mom and she was around less than a year after finding out.
Neil's drumming was the first thing that perked my ears up when listening to Rush for the first time. The precision on those complicated parts was extraordinary and drew me into a musical world I knew next to nothing about. Because of him I dug deeper into jazz, discovered progressive music, found roughly 8 of my top 10 bands of all time, and eventually found DTF as well. I can't imagine what my musical life would be like now if not for Neil Peart.
FUCK
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My video of Losing It from Rush's final concert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCnME9N-Ilw
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The news of Neil's passing has hit me hard. I keep hoping that I'll wake up tomorrow and find out that it was just a terrible nightmare.
He was such an inspiration to me as a drummer, a writer, and a human being. The music of Rush has been a big part of the soundtrack of my life for as long as I can remember. I read Traveling Music every summer.
He always showed incredible resilience in the face of the great losses he faced in his own life. I guess it just goes to show that even now, Neil is giving me inspiration.
We'll miss you, Professor.
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I havent posted in.....well forever. I thought of everyone here. God bless Neil. You are such a loss, among many losses in the few years. But this hits me in the gut. RIP legend.
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This is probably the most heart broken I've ever been over a musician's death. Neil was my biggest musical influence. He is the reason I wanted to play drums....he is the drummer I aspired to be like. I literally learned drums by playing along to Rush songs. Lyrically he was a huge inspiration too. One of my absolute favorite lyricists. I also hadn't given up hope on the band reconvening in the studio at some point and recording a new album or maybe just a few songs, but now it won't happen. I am just completely gutted.
"Suddenly you were gone
From all the Lives you left your mark upon"
He really did leave a mark on so many lives, mine included. Gone but never forgotten. All I can say is cancer sucks. I lost my grandfather a few years ago to bone cancer. My aunt is battling breast cancer. It takes too many good people from us.
I'm just glad I got to see Rush in concert numerous times. I even met Neil once, at a gas station of all places. I was getting gas and he pulled up to the pump next to me with another guy. We chatted about motorcycles for a few minutes while filling up (I've been in to motorcycles my whole life). He was extremely friendly and I didn't want to freak him out by fan-boying over him. I just casually mentioned during our conversation that I had seen him in concert a number of times and told him how great a show Rush puts on, he was very gracious and thanked me and then we went our separate ways. Didn't ask to take a picture with him or anything (I didn't want to be that guy), but then again this was before smart phones were really a thing (I believe it was around 2003-ish).
I usually will do an annual Rush Discography playthrough near the beginning of each year, I have even more of a reason to do so now.
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This is really helping me tonight.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrWDnzD4/20200110-220908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wh4zMZXF)
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Gutted, I feel as though I've lost a family member.
I'm too upset to saying anything else, other than I hope he's in a better place now and no more suffering.
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Absolutely devastating news. Had a great day today only to have it come crashing down by seeing this. :'( Not only an amazing musician and lyricist, but one of the most grounded, humble and respectable human beings that could ever be labeled as a "rock star". For that reason, his loss is even greater to me than many other musicians we've already lost (nevermind the fact that he was one of my favorite drummers in one of my favorite bands). This one is gonna take some time to get over. I really feel for his family, Geddy, Alex, MP and all those who knew him personally, but at the very least he's no longer suffering after fighting cancer for those 3.5 years.
My video of Losing It from Rush's final concert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCnME9N-Ilw
Thanks for sharing that. I was fortunate enough to be at that very same show and it will forever live with me as one of my most memorable concerts - especially getting to see one of the rare magical performances of that song that I love so dearly, and at their final show.
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This is really helping me tonight.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrWDnzD4/20200110-220908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wh4zMZXF)
Man that's really cool getting to see this tribute on this sad day.
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This is just awful news. There's no other band that has ever been more the souls of three people operating in unison, and even though they have been retired for a few years now, it's jarring that there's no longer that trio of Neil, Alex and Geddy. One of the all-time great bands, one of the all-time great lyricists, and probably THE all-time great drummer. Just horrible.
Mike has a longer tribute up on Billboard now. (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8547805/neil-peart-mike-portnoy-remembers-drummer) I didn't know they were this close. Some real personal touches here.
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Actually saw a post on Twitter that made me chuckle, which is tough regarding this:
I can’t help thinking he’s chuckling somewhere knowing hundreds of bands with gigs tonight are trying to figure out “an easy Rush song.”
Ain't that the truth.
I needed that laugh.
September of '79 my roommate and I are playing tennis doubles with a couple of gals on a court about a hundred yards from Rose Arena at Central Michigan. And then music starts booming LOUDLY. We're like 'WTF' and walk over. We enter, walk the corridor to the doors leading into the basketball court/arena, and get to stand with about fifty other fans and students during part of the Rush soundcheck before being kindly asked to leave. I was a fan before, even moreso after that concert.
A few months later, King Biscuit Flour Hour broadcast this concert from St. Louis. My first taped bootleg. Listen to the whole thing, or at approximately 59:00 to 1:04:15 for 'Doctor Fredo'. In my dreams, I could have been half this talented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Sv0j5F0Qs
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Neil on Strombo...Moving Pictures track by track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWyeMA78EEk
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I contacted a friend of mine and he was crying...mind you he’s 52 but a HUGE Rush fan.
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I am a moderate Rush fan, love some of their material, dislike an equal amount. And do not get emotional over the passing of celebrities. But some of the posts I have read here I found very moving.
Of all the comments, those about him wanting to spend more time with his family resonated with me the most. If it is 5:00 leave the office and go home; turn off football for a bit this weekend and play with your kids; take your spouse/bf/gf out on a date.
Getting back to the topic, I'll just say thank you for the music Neil. You have obviously touched so many lives.
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I can't really say anything that others haven't already. I don't even know what to say. Rush is a huge part of my life. I feel like I can't talk about this and can't not talk about it; can't talk or think about anything else for any length of time.
I hope Neil got to enjoy as much of his retirement as possible.
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I'm gutted. I don't think I've been as heartbroken over a musician's death like this since maybe Dio in 2010. Neil's drumming was always stunning, but as others have mentioned here already, his lyrics were second to none. As I've entered into adulthood and delved deeper and deeper into my life, I've often found myself turning to Neil's words as something of a moral compass.
Sleep well, Professor.
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A good friend of mine who I hadn't seen in a while reached out today, about Neil. We'll be hanging out tomorrow.
I expect there will be singing, laughter, tears, drinking, hugging, singing, drinking, singing, etc. Thank-you, Neil. Even now, you're bringing people together. The music you helped create truly is powerful.
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So, so sad. Gave such joy. Peace and love.
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RIP Professor.... glad I got to see you live once
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Saw Rush 12 times live. Just finished getting plowed and doing a mini-marathon (Fly By Night through Permanent Waves). Still coping with this horrible news, but doing better now, and have newfound resolve. The shining beacon of his memory will continue to inspire hope in dark times as it always did. Going forward in life, I'll strive to live by the principles and ideals he enshrined in his lyrics. I want to look at life in the available light.
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In the fullness of time...the cells tick away. RIP Professor Peart.
I'm very grateful I got to see him live on the R30, Time Machine and Clockwork Angels tours. What a supreme individual. What a loss for this world.
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I can't tell you how difficult it was to drive to work this morning, after waking up to these horrible news!
I could ramble on for hours, but I'll say that while Geddy was my biggest influence in picking up an instrument, Neal has been my biggest influence as a human being period! He was quite simply the best at pretty much everything he did.
He was a kind soul, and a supremely intelligent human being! So while he may be gone, he's legacy in music and literature will live on forever!
R.I.P
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I consider myself beyond fortunate to have been able to see them live 12 times. I consider myself, and all of us, lucky beyond measure that we were able to exist at the same time as Rush and enjoy their music.
Rush is and will always be my favorite band, and Neil was my first true personal hero. He wasn't the reason I picked up drum sticks, but he was the reason and the goal to play harder and get better. He also showed me what writing and intelligence could be. And he showed me how hard he worked, not only at his craft, but also personally, with his struggles with fame and the immeasurable loss he suffered and from which he managed to return.
And he gave all of this asking for nothing but respect and privacy in return. Over 40 years dedicated to thousands, if not millions, of people he'd never meet.
Neil, to me, felt like a brother. I know he would never echo that sentiment given his intensely private nature, but his words and playing, along with the other two boys in Rush, reached me in ways no other music ever has. He accompanied my youth, and has accompanied my adulthood, and I'll be damned if that is going to stop now. Rush is now the soundtrack to my kids' lives, as they ask to listen to them and sing along all the time.
I have immense respect for Neil, the way he carried himself and lived his life. His reluctant status as a legend will live forever, his musical creations immortal in the minds, ears, and hearts of everyone who heard them. Generations now and generations to come will be touched by him, and I can't really think of a better tribute than that.
I personally feel more loss than I have ever felt at a celebrity passing, and I'm still struggling to envision a world that doesn't have Neil Peart in it. But we were graced with a talent that willingly shared his gifts with the world, and we are immeasurably fortunate for that.
Thank you for everything, Mr. Peart. I cannot express the impact you had on me and my life, and you will never, ever be forgotten.
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I really don't even know how to articulate what Rush meant (and still means) to me. Music was the single biggest thing in my life in my teenage years, and shaped the person who I am. Rush and Zeppelin were the two biggest contributors to that - and thus in turn, Peart is ultimately a significant architect of my personality, my traits, my 'being'. I don't say that with any hyperbole or exaggeration. Rush gave me so many gems of wisdom, words that go beyond meaning, sounds and messages that speak to my soul. The words and music invoke so many feeling-memories... where you don't always remember the exact events around the memory, but the feelings come rushing back in like the first time you heard the song. This just played in my earbuds a couple of minutes ago:
Sitting in the sand
To watch the fireworks display
Dancing fires on the beach
Singing songs together
Though it's just a memory, some memories last forever
For me, not only does it invoke the memories of Victoria Day fireworks, but every fireworks show I've ever seen, camping or opening cottages (cuz that's what we all did on May/2-4 weekend), youthful partying, and the feeling of inclusiveness that comes from close friends and family.
Time to take it to the Rush discography thread. That's what'll be in my ears for quite a while.
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This is a rough loss. One of my true musical heroes/influences is no longer here and that's a really sad thought to process. I am amazed at how many people I see on facebook and twitter writing tributes...people who I would never have imagined even know about Rush. For all the shit I give him, Mike Portnoy's few posts were really touching and heartfelt. Gonna blast the shit out of Hold Your Fire today for the man
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Rush were always a greatest hits band for me. I absolutely love a few songs, but never bothered to get into them beyond that. They were too prog and nerdy for me, and I have always been a very serious metalhead, hunting for heavier and faster music.
A year ago or so, I watched the latest documentary on Netflix and something clicked beyond Subdivisions and Temples of Syrinx. I started listening to their newest albums frim the last 15 to 20 years and fell back in love with them. I really developed a respect for them as musicians and human beings.
I never went to see them live, which I have regretted since they went on hiatus. Its life. I saw Pantera three times when others never got to see that band. It's a bummer, but all I can do is dig back into their music and enjoy what Neil left for us all.
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Stolen from the interwebs. Credit where credit is due.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hpp55jM.png)
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Hard to stay focused on work, carousing the web, and have read where some people are making donations of $21.12 to the American Cancer Society. :tup
Add my name to the list.
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Stolen from the interwebs. Credit where credit is due.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hpp55jM.png)
That's awesome.
some people are making donations of $21.12 to the American Cancer Society. :tup
As is this.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dave-grohl-neil-peart-tribute-936401/
Dave Grohl, a Neil Peart acolyte who inducted Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2013, penned a tribute to the drummer following news of Peart’s death Friday.
“Today, the world lost a true giant in the history of rock & roll,” Grohl said in a statement to Rolling Stone. “An inspiration to millions with an unmistakable sound who spawned generations of musicians (like myself) to pick up two sticks and chase a dream. A kind, thoughtful, brilliant man who ruled our radios and turntables not only with his drumming, but also his beautiful words.”
Grohl continued, “I still vividly remember my first listen of 2112 when I was young. It was the first time I really listened to a drummer. And since that day, music has never been the same. His power, precision, and composition was incomparable. He was called ‘The Professor’ for a reason: We all learned from him.”
As Grohl told Rolling Stone in 2013, ahead of Rush’s Rock Hall induction, it was Peart’s work that inspired him to pick up the drumsticks. “When I got 2112 when I was eight years old, it fucking changed the direction of my life. I heard the drums. It made me want to become a drummer,” Grohl said.
The Foo Fighters frontman and former Nirvana drummer also reminisced about meeting Peart for the first time during rehearsals for the Rock Hall ceremony. “I was coming to rehearsal and I was meeting Neil for the first time, and this man was as influential as any religion or any hero or any person in someone’s life. He said, ‘So nice to meet you. Can I make you a coffee?’ And he made me a coffee, man,” Grohl said in 2013. “And later on that night, I went to dinner and had a couple glasses of wine, and I started fucking crying because my hero made me a fucking coffee. It was unbelievable, man. So that’s kind of how this whole experience has been.”
Both Peart and Grohl landed in the upper echelon of Rolling Stone‘s list of the 100 Greatest Drummers of All Time. Grohl, like many drummers in rock, paid tribute to one of the greatest to ever play the instrument. “Thank you, Neil, for making our lives a better place with your music. You will be forever remembered and sorely missed by all of us. And my heartfelt condolences to the Rush family,” he wrote. “God bless Neil Peart.”
Grohl’s Foo Fighters bandmate Taylor Hawkins had a more succinct, yet equally poignant, statement. “Neil Peart had the hands of God,” he tells Rolling Stone. “End of story.”
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I was picturing Neil saying something to his loved ones or even us fans
"don't be sad, be happy. If you want to be nostalgic about your memories about me and Rush, CELEBRATE them. "
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Lovely words from Dave Grohl there.
Man, The Trees has never sounded this good.
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first tribute I've come across, Styx........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AexxaIAppn8
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dave-grohl-neil-peart-tribute-936401/
Dave Grohl, a Neil Peart acolyte who inducted Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2013, penned a tribute to the drummer following news of Peart’s death Friday.
“Today, the world lost a true giant in the history of rock & roll,” Grohl said in a statement to Rolling Stone. “An inspiration to millions with an unmistakable sound who spawned generations of musicians (like myself) to pick up two sticks and chase a dream. A kind, thoughtful, brilliant man who ruled our radios and turntables not only with his drumming, but also his beautiful words.”
Grohl continued, “I still vividly remember my first listen of 2112 when I was young. It was the first time I really listened to a drummer. And since that day, music has never been the same. His power, precision, and composition was incomparable. He was called ‘The Professor’ for a reason: We all learned from him.”
As Grohl told Rolling Stone in 2013, ahead of Rush’s Rock Hall induction, it was Peart’s work that inspired him to pick up the drumsticks. “When I got 2112 when I was eight years old, it fucking changed the direction of my life. I heard the drums. It made me want to become a drummer,” Grohl said.
The Foo Fighters frontman and former Nirvana drummer also reminisced about meeting Peart for the first time during rehearsals for the Rock Hall ceremony. “I was coming to rehearsal and I was meeting Neil for the first time, and this man was as influential as any religion or any hero or any person in someone’s life. He said, ‘So nice to meet you. Can I make you a coffee?’ And he made me a coffee, man,” Grohl said in 2013. “And later on that night, I went to dinner and had a couple glasses of wine, and I started fucking crying because my hero made me a fucking coffee. It was unbelievable, man. So that’s kind of how this whole experience has been.”
Both Peart and Grohl landed in the upper echelon of Rolling Stone‘s list of the 100 Greatest Drummers of All Time. Grohl, like many drummers in rock, paid tribute to one of the greatest to ever play the instrument. “Thank you, Neil, for making our lives a better place with your music. You will be forever remembered and sorely missed by all of us. And my heartfelt condolences to the Rush family,” he wrote. “God bless Neil Peart.”
Grohl’s Foo Fighters bandmate Taylor Hawkins had a more succinct, yet equally poignant, statement. “Neil Peart had the hands of God,” he tells Rolling Stone. “End of story.”
I really cannot get into the Foo Fighters, but I could listen to Dave Grohl all day long.
A couple months ago, I went down a youtube rabbit hole of his interviews, and I was really impressed. He is literally the Forrest Gump of rock.
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Neil has a 10 year old daughter. So damn heartbreaking.
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A melancholic funk has settled over me. I
hope it doesn't last much longer. Reflecting
on his life and music caused me to do the same.
It's only logical since I spent so much of it
listening to him play. Rough night. Rough morning.
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Neil has a 10 year old daughter. So damn heartbreaking.
Yeah. I realized that about an hour after I heard about Neil's passing yesterday. I thought she was a little older, like in high school. Not that it would be less painful to be that age, but at 10, having to watch her dad pass and now live without him. Man... :-[
Watched R40 last night and my young daughter watched it with my wife and I, as we taught her about Neil Peart and Rush (she is a hard rock fan, but we hadn't really exposed to RUSH yet). She was memorized by Neil's drum solo, particularly as we talked to her and showed her about keeping time, and the fills in-between, and how Rush doesn't play at 4:4 time often. She picked up on it and couldn't believe how gifted Neil was. I was like "yeah kiddo, and really no one else ever has been."
Fuck cancer man. Seriously, it can go up and fuck itself.
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Just a reminder that it's worth people's while to go and find the "Making of Snakes and Arrows" documentary, for the sequence where Neil had laid down the verses for "The Way The Wind Blows". It's decided that the song lacked energy, and it was likely from the drum track. Neil listens patiently, but had done four different versions of the verse to that point, and Nick was asking him to do four more versions on the fly (after having played for about three hours at that point and having put down a perfectly acceptable version on tape). Neil mutters, "fucker!", and goes in and nails it. Geddy is dancing in the control room like he's a teenager at a gig, as is Alex, and they both applaud at his perseverance. It really spoke to Neil's pride, humility (to take criticism), courage (to go out of his comfort zone), creativity (to actually come up with the parts), and technical ability (to deliver his best performance when lesser men would have tapped out). It's everything I admire in a man (I mean human, not gender). It runs 31:55 to about 36:00.
I'm not at the same level of "Rush Fan" as some here (though oddly feel the need to talk about this), but there are three things that cemented my deep respect for Neil: his performance on Signals (specifically his drumming on Subdivisions - the opening fill - and his lyrics on The Analog Kid - I'm the boy in the baseball cap), his drum solo on the Letterman show, and that sequence.
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Just a reminder that it's worth people's while to go and find the "Making of Snakes and Arrows" documentary, for the sequence where Neil had laid down the verses for "The Way The Wind Blows". It's decided that the song lacked energy, and it was likely from the drum track. Neil listens patiently, but had done four different versions of the verse to that point, and Nick was asking him to do four more versions on the fly (after having played for about three hours at that point and having put down a perfectly acceptable version on tape). Neil mutters, "fucker!", and goes in and nails it. Geddy is dancing in the control room like he's a teenager at a gig, as is Alex, and they both applaud at his perseverance. It really spoke to Neil's pride, humility (to take criticism), courage (to go out of his comfort zone), creativity (to actually come up with the parts), and technical ability (to deliver his best performance when lesser men would have tapped out). It's everything I admire in a man (I mean human, not gender). It runs 31:55 to about 36:00.
I'll definitely find that clip. I've never seen that as I think S&A is generally terrible.
But let me amend that to say that I will listen to it during my discog run with an open and fresh mind considering what just happened, so I can find an new appreciation for it.
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I haven't watched that in some time, Stads, I'll watch it this weekend.
My RUSH story. Saw them three times - Vapor Trails (Hartford, CT), R30 (Concord, Calif.), Time Machine (White River Amph., Wash.). I wanted to do the 2006/2007 tour, and also the Clockwork and R40 shows, but they were just so far away from me at the time it was impossible. I should have made a better effort on the Snakes and/or Feedback tour that was in that 2006/2007 timeframe, and kick myself. But the other two were impossible.
I became a fan with Test for Echo. Liked the record. My two buddies were going to the show at Jones Beach, and I passed, being a 20 year old and not having a ton of cash. I really regretted that obviously. But I got to see the kick-off gig after Neil returned from his hiatus, so that was special. But while I bought the catalog after the Vapor Trails tour (I only had Test for Echo, Chronicles, and Vapor Trails before seeing them for the first time), I only became a bigger fan AFTER the Time Machine tour in 2010, which sadly, was the last time I was able to see them.
I absolutely adored Clockwork Angels, and was really upset I couldn't go to the tour. Same with R40. I was bummed. Not quite as bummed as Clockwork, but I had resigned myself to knowing it was their last tour, and I had been fortunate enough to see them three times. But I still wish I went. But my appreciation for, and my fandom of RUSH only grew. And today I remain a pretty big fan. Not as much as some, but I'm certainly not in the "casual" category.
RIP Neil. Will be thinking of his little girl, his family, and of course Ged and Alex.
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I haven't watched that "making of" in probably a decade, but I remember that clip.
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I first saw them on the Power Windows tour, HYF, Presto, RTB, Counterparts (2x) and TfE tours. I actually hadn't seen them since 1996.
I regret not seeing the CA tour, as well and the R40 tour, because as Sam said, it was pretty clear that would be it. Unfortunately, timing wasn't really good for either show for me. Neil played particularly strong on that final tour. Probably his best playing in quite some time.
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I saw them 12 times, basically every time they came to St Louis since 1991:
Roll the Bones tour (x2)
Counterparts tour
Test for Echo tour (x2)
Vapor Trails tour
R30 tour
Snakes and Arrows tour
Snakes and Arrows live tour
Time Machine tour
Clockwork Angels tour
R40
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I never saw them. Huge huge mistake. :(
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31 times. First on the GUP tour in 1984. Last in Montreal with Chad and my brother in 2015.
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31 times.
That's nuts, bro.
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Seeing them on the Vapor Trails tour remains one of my two favorite concerts ever (next to seeing Pink Floyd in '94). The first tour in five years and they were on fire that night. Plus, the set list was amazing. I was so jacked for that show that when I went and saw a friend and his wife who had seats elsewhere during the first intermission, he commented the next night (at a wedding of a mutual friend) that he had never seen me that energetic and hyper before (and we had been working together for 8 years). And I had done no drinking of alcohol! :lol :lol Rush was all I needed to give me that kind of high. :coolio :hat
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I never saw them. Huge huge mistake. :(
Same. My wife tried to talk me into seeing them in Chicago once, which in an of itself was an amazing feat on her part, but my insecurities of travel and large crowds led me to say no.
Will regret that one forever.
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31 times.
That's nuts, bro.
3 times was opening night of their tours.
Power Windows in Maine.
Vapor Trails in Connecticut.
Clockwork Angel's in N.H.
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I never saw them. Huge huge mistake. :(
That's my regret as well. Back on the MP forum, DTD sent a PM asking me if I wanted to see them when they were in town. I don't know why I didn't go. At the time I had no clue it was widely assumed to be the last Rush tour. I think regret that decision and after watching the Time Stand Still documentary regretted it even more. I'm not a rabid fan but love the band a lot and have almost everything they've released on CD/DVD/Blu-ray.
Truly a missed chance.
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Neil has a 10 year old daughter. So damn heartbreaking.
This is the thing that resonates with me.
My father died from a heart attack when I was 7, at the age of 53 (and a half). When I had kids of my own, I started marking time in terms of him. When my son turned 7 (and a couple months), I took note of the fact that I he was older than I was when my dad died. I did the same a few years later when my daughter hit the mark. I'm now 52. In a little over a year, I'll have outlived my father, and my kids will be 17 and nearly 19. I will regard this as a significant accomplishment.
Certainly, Neil had Olivia when he was much older, but he did everything possible to be a healthy person. And fucking cancer got him anyway. And his daughter and wife have had to live with his battle for over three fucking years. I can't imagine how awful this must be for them.
Someone else said it earlier in the thread. Hug your families and keep them close.
I saw them 12 times, basically every time they came to St Louis since 1991:
I got 20. At least once on every tour starting with GUP. My last was their last.
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pg, thank you. To look through a child's eyes. So glad to read this.
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RIP Neil Peart!
It's really warming and kind of eye opening seeing all the massive love and respect for Neil on my FB feed by muscian friends I had no idea was listening to Rush.
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Sadly, I never saw them live. By the time I first discovered them in late 2012, they already did their Southern California shows for their Clockwork Angels tour. Their final show of R40, and ever, was at The Forum in Inglewood. I wanted to go, but I didn't have a job or money, and didn't want to drive long to Inglewood alone. Back then, I was going to concerts with my sister and I think it would be a hard sell for me to convince her to go, especially since we were already committed to see Foo Fighters the month after the final show in Inglewood.
I was hoping there would be some hope that Neil would decide to briefly come out of retirement and do sporadic shows and that if Rush did any more shows in California, I get tickets in a heartbeat. Sadly, that chance will never come, but I thank them for having a live release of every tour they've done in the 2000s. Lots of various songs from all of their albums in those releases.
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I heard the news just before midnight yesterday and it was hard to go to sleep after that. This was legit the first time a celebrity/musician death has made me tear up, as Rush is my favorite band :'( While Neil was one of the drumming greats, as a non-drummer myself I was drawn in (even) moreso by his lyrics. I'm not much of a book guy to be honest, but I read Ghost Rider, The Masked Rider, Traveling Music and Roadshow, and he definitely had a way with words outside Rush songs as well. The biggest regret of my life has got to be not seeing them on the Clockwork Angels tour :sadpanda:
Poor guy. First wife and daughter die. Finally retired to spend time with the new family and battles brain cancer for 3 years.
No kidding :sad:
EDIT: Just remembered that Rush's statement said he passed away on the 7th, and - eerily enough - on that very day I really felt like putting a Rush CD on in the car and ended up choosing Power Windows.
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I read the news yesterday at work. My initial reaction was denial. "That can't be true." I immediately called a friend of mine who also huge fan and broke the news. Neither of us could believe it.
The headline stuck with me for the rest of the day until I got home. I immediately put on Available Light, my favorite Rush song, and as the final chorus played it finally hit me like a brick wall and the tears started coming.
Neil Peart is gone. One of my heroes is gone.
I've only been a Rush fan for about 11 years. Hardly a fraction of how long some of you guys have been fans. I bought a copy of Hemispheres in 2009 because The Trees was in the video game Rock Band 2 and I remember the drum part to that song was very fun to play. From there I fell down the rabbit hole. I bought 2112, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, A Farewell to Kings, Fly By Night, Caress of Steel, all the classic albums and listened to them over and over and over. My first car, a lovely Silver 2000 Honda Civic, only had a CD player, no aux jack or bluetooth or anything fancy. I used to deliver pizzas back in my senior year of High School and my first couple years of College, and I remember driving around listening to those albums and drumming my hands on the steering wheel till the finish wore off. I've never been a drummer myself, but goddamn did Neil make me want to be one.
The same friend I mentioned invited me to go see Rush on what would be their final tour back in 2015, but I turned him down. I don't remember why, but I probably thought, "I'll see them on the next tour."
I never got to see them live, and I'll be kicking myself for that for the rest of my life.
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I'll definitely find that clip. I've never seen that as I think S&A is generally terrible.
But let me amend that to say that I will listen to it during my discog run with an open and fresh mind considering what just happened, so I can find an new appreciation for it.
I'll reply to this over in he discography discussion thread.
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I got into Rush in 1982 when I bought Moving Pictures. For some reason I haven't seen them live as many times as other bands I've been a fan of for the same period of time.
Saw them in 1986 (Power Windows tour), 1992 (Roll the Bones tour), 2008 (Snakes & Arrows tour) and 2011 (Time Machine tour).
Like everyone else, I'll be listening to some Rush albums in tribute when I get the chance.
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I'm not at the same level of "Rush Fan" as some here (though oddly feel the need to talk about this), but there are three things that cemented my deep respect for Neil: his performance on Signals (specifically his drumming on Subdivisions - the opening fill - and his lyrics on The Analog Kid - I'm the boy in the baseball cap), his drum solo on the Letterman show, and that sequence.
First two things my neighbors and I listened to last night, for essentially the same reasons. (Though I view the lyrics to Subdivisions as highly as Analog Kid.)
As for myself, I was pretty distraught about this for a couple of hours and then [mostly] shook it off. Neil has given me far more enjoyment than I could ever hope for, and will continue to do so as much as if he were still with us. I'd much rather be grateful than sad. That's how I'm approaching this.
Also, nice to see some old, familiar faces. Scurvy: if you check back in hit me up with a PM so I can add you back to the Pick'em.
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This still chokes me up. RRHOF induction
https://youtu.be/5MXI03-qRU0
https://youtu.be/VTz2TDr79eI
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https://www.tsn.ca/video/remembering-neil-peart~1865542
Love the drumset!
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first tribute I've come across, Styx........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AexxaIAppn8
Awesome! With this arrangement, it's hard not to get emotional listening to this. Rush was a major part of my growing up and my friends.
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This still chokes me up. RRHOF induction
https://youtu.be/5MXI03-qRU0
https://youtu.be/VTz2TDr79eI
Great vids.
That Dan Rather interview is fantastic BTW.
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This still chokes me up. RRHOF induction
https://youtu.be/5MXI03-qRU0
https://youtu.be/VTz2TDr79eI
I've never been able to watch those without a few tears. Happy ones, to be sure. I can only imagine what it was like to be there in the room. Just watching it on the screen is pretty spectacular.
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wtf Brain Cancer :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn
I was just listening to a RIP podcast about musicians who died in 2019 and was reminded that like Neil, Marie Frederikson of Roxette also died from that condition.
:sad: :sad: :angry: :angry:
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JP on Facebook:
Spent yesterday mourning the loss of one of the greatest drummers of all time...I know this is a little late but I finally mustered up the strength to write this. Truly heartbroken 💔 There has been no greater influence on me as a musician than Rush and no greater inspiration as a lyricist than Neil Peart. What a tremendous loss. My heart goes out to his family. May he Rest In Peace.
https://www.facebook.com/johnpetrucciFB/photos/a.133462500039104/3027770540608271/?type=3&theater
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from Mike's FB page:
"A Farewell to King. Praying for N.P."
https://www.facebook.com/MikeMangini/posts/2691845734197501?__xts__[0]=68.ARB_d34ANzImkz7jUOzWiieFgTqh-MDWhC39JtEajkhTWTTaUO7Gt-eSiyOiuaAZ--LaGpzEI_fDgw1ZbavNaNs-X5-PLueL2h1etQC14rjua1KEBBsoAdBupCCjlwkcjg6IDM7ShUH2LejzFfHbhA0Aw60Sd1BARfexnAHdM6uiBw1ySHH9rP8-yOkL0KfBkfebFPZ4zC5BNHHG-25bCnOHrg0yIhSk1QUNJOu1ioHsRNi6sNX8Cm_XUsvapkyTNIfjZCzM3ly1jXzQT52u6kN-87sNX0tn5_QWNIbbbJB4T6XXkuGlW_UG2iE6WvSKvKTcGn3ggCpoQzq4ucZsow&__tn__=-R
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I only saw them twice, September of 1977 for Farewell to Kings tour and March of 1979 for the Hemispheres tour. Both were seminal moments in my life but especially the FTK show. It was in a little place called the Terrace Ballroom. The capacity in that place was maybe 3000, I'm not really sure, but to see them so up close and personal while they were still young and so much larger than life. Man, it's almost painful to think of right now.
I counted myself fortunate then and especially now.
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I only saw them twice, September of 1977 for Farewell to Kings tour and March of 1979 for the Hemispheres tour. Both were seminal moments in my life but especially the FTK show. It was in a little place called the Terrace Ballroom. The capacity in that place was maybe 3000, I'm not really sure, but to see them so up close and personal while they were still young and so much larger than life. Man, it's almost painful to think of right now.
I counted myself fortunate then and especially now.
Those must have been great. Hemisheres is probably my favorite Rush tour.
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I only saw them twice, September of 1977 for Farewell to Kings tour and March of 1979 for the Hemispheres tour. Both were seminal moments in my life but especially the FTK show. It was in a little place called the Terrace Ballroom. The capacity in that place was maybe 3000, I'm not really sure, but to see them so up close and personal while they were still young and so much larger than life. Man, it's almost painful to think of right now.
I counted myself fortunate then and especially now.
Those must have been great. Hemisheres is probably my favorite Rush tour.
Tim, the Hemispheres tour was at the old Salt Palace Arena (where the Jazz played basketball). I was in a nosebleed seat and really couldn't see much (or remember much) because a tiny purple pill I'd eaten a few hours before the show. :lol
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Oh man. That's too bad.
I have a great boot from the Boston show. It's one of my favorite shows.
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Looking through the tour log on the Rush site...
Power Windows
Hold Your Fire
Presto
Roll The Bones
Counterparts
Test For Echo
Some of those were a few times, some were when I was doing security for Bill Graham Presents (one of those I was in front of the mixer booth, 20 rows back, elevated a few feet above the crowd facing the stage. My job was to tell people not to lean on the barrier in front of the mixer booth). After that my life got a little squirrely and I didn't see too many live shows until I got sober in 2011. No matter, I consider myself beyond blessed.
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I've only seen Rush once, but I consider myself just as lucky as people that have seen the band live several times. Living in Eastern Europe, Rush was never a big deal around here, and the band never toured anywhere near me as far as I know.
However, I became an enormous fan around 2010, and once Clockwork angels dropped and it became clear it might be their last album, I had to figure out how to see them on that tour. Finally, I managed to get on a plane with my dad and fly to Berlin. It turned out to be one of their last concerts ever in Europe. I actually had a feeling that might be it for them. Once they retired, I knew I made the right choice by not waiting to see if they might come closer on the next tour.
Needless to say, that was the best concert I've ever attended. And I've seen Iron Maiden, Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Black Sabbath, King Crimson and other legends. The entire band performed brilliantly. Neil was, of course, amazing.
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Every tourbook from 1984.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhVLhtsg/20200111-163416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47q9FYTc)
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Not to rain on the tributes, but why would anyone superimpose his image in to that RotJ screenshot? Do him and Anakin have anything remotely in common? Why isn't he Obi-Wan?
Neil has given me far more enjoyment than I could ever hope for, and will continue to do so as much as if he were still with us. I'd much rather be grateful than sad. That's how I'm approaching this.
A noble and reasonable approach to life in general.
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I think they are trying to say he's on the level of Yoda and Obi Wan.
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Because a master (Jedi/Drummer) has passed on guiding other (Jedi/Drummers)
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Valid point. I was wondering why he was being equating with a whiny kid who choose the dark path and brought death and destruction to a galaxy. Carry on.
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Every tourbook from 1984.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhVLhtsg/20200111-163416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47q9FYTc)
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Some nice words from Terry Brown (who produced their first nine records):
Terry Brown MixMusic
· 23 hrs ·
It is with a heavy heart that I have to acknowledge the passing of Neil on this 10th day of January 2020. I have so many fond memories of good times spent listening to him compose some of the greatest percussive moments on record and working with his lyrics which he took so much care to write for us all to cherish.
It seems unfathomable that a man could use so much of his brain to enrich our lives and then leave us so abruptly.
Thank you Neil for all you gave us, I have added a shot of you and me at my 60th birthday - a wonderful memory, thanks for being there and being such a huge part of my life.
My heartfelt thoughts go out to all the RUSH families, friends and fans on this sad occasion
Broon
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I’m trying to get some relief from sadness by watching football, and they play Limelight at the commercial break.
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I’m trying to get some relief from sadness by watching football, and they play Limelight at the commercial break.
I caught that, too. I was hoping to hear The Fountain of Lamneth instead...:P
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I’m trying to get some relief from sadness by watching football, and they play Limelight at the commercial break.
It shows how much impact his music had on the world though. I think that’s kind of awesome.
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https://www.tsn.ca/video/remembering-neil-peart~1865542
Love the drumset!
I love his Original Six cap!
Every tourbook from 1984.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhVLhtsg/20200111-163416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47q9FYTc)
Very nice! I have about half of those. For some reason, I stopped buying tour books in the 90s. I also have AFTK, MP and Signals, all of which I bought after the fact (actually, I think AFTK was a freebie that came with some stuff I bought from the Rush Backstage Club).
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I own 2 Presto tour books. One drenched in beer from an asshole behind me and one from him after I took $200 from his wallet after he hit the ground. :lol
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That's not his cat, is it?
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You leave my Harry out of this. :lol
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You leave my Harry out of this. :lol
So...leave that thing alone?
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How dare you.
Shut up, shuttin' up.
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Valid point. I was wondering why he was being equating with a whiny kid who choose the dark path and brought death and destruction to a galaxy. Carry on.
JINGLE!!! Where's that meme of Capt. Picard??
(Kidding, Chris. I posted it, though I didn't create it; I just thought it was cool, sort of Neil as the Jedi Master of Drumming.)
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Listening to Signals now, and Goddamn, Neil's drumming on Digital Man is ridiculous. :hefdaddy
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Listening to Signals now, and Goddamn, Neil's drumming on Digital Man is ridiculous. :hefdaddy
I have always liked Signals a lot, but it has really been elevated in the last few years for me. I love the textural feel of it throughout, and the sound of the remaster is incredible. Even the songs on that album that aren't great sound great within the flow of the record.
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My 1st Rush album I bought when it came out. I was jealous seeing kids eith concert tees at school.
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My 1st Rush album I bought when it came out. I was jealous seeing kids eith concert tees at school.
Mine as well Joe. Actually that would've been Exit Stage Left. Seems right since we're the same age except I'm younger. :lol
I remember being so WTF with Signals. I was really bummed.
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I got Exit Stage Left for Christmas with AC/DC FTATR. The times we lived in...
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HAHA, that sounds like one of my Christmases. I remember one getting Blizzard of Ozz and AC/DC High Voltage.
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Us music nerds remember stuff like this.
I can't remember when my wife asks me to take out the garbage though. lol
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Christmas 1982 brought me:
Iron Maiden-Maiden Japan
Deep Purple-Burn
Riot-Restless Breed
Rainbow-Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow
Motorhead-No Sleep Till Hammersmith
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I saw this online, a pic of Neil from a year ago or so:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeZYUSNUQAEpkAf?format=jpg&name=large)
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He looks so slim.
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Right, that is the first thing I noticed. On the last few Rush tours, he was a little (for lack of a better term) beefier than he had been for most of Rush's career, so to see that kind of weight loss is telling.
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Gump. Long time drum tech.
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Heard the news yesterday morning and felt pretty sad. Then I somehow made my way to Wikipedia and saw that "Rush was a Canadian band" and "Neil Peart was a Canadian drummer." That hit me in a pretty deep way. All that said, my thoughts go out to the Peart family, who I'm sure are really hurting right now, but I hope that the outpouring of support for Neil helps just a bit. Dude was an absolute legend.
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Have Alex and Geddy made any official statements regarding Neil's passing? I haven't seen anything, and I'd bet that we won't hear a peep from those two for months. :(
I don't think any other musicians passing has hit me as hard as Neil's.
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An official Rush statement was released.
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Have Alex and Geddy made any official statements regarding Neil's passing? I haven't seen anything, and I'd bet that we won't hear a peep from those two for months. :(
I don't think any other musicians passing has hit me as hard as Neil's.
The last post on Geddy's instagram page is a 'Rest in Peace, my brother :heart:' with a picture of Neil, Rush's official statement and a pic of all three of them. The last photo seems to be taken not too long ago.
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Plus, Alex and Geddy aren't really in the public eye anymore, so I'd be surprised to see either come out with anything else. It's not really their style.
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An official Rush statement was released.
Yeah, I read that.
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The last post on Geddy's instagram page is a 'Rest in Peace, my brother :heart:' with a picture of Neil, Rush's official statement and a pic of all three of them. The last photo seems to be taken not too long ago.
I didn't see that photo. Where is that?
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That picture is from the doc from the making of S&A.
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Seems The Making Of S&A is not on youtube..
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Like many others, my intent over the last couple days was to post a tribute fitting
to the impact Neil had upon my life. However, after some contemplation and tears,
I decided Neil may have preferred something different. He was a creator. This is
my gift to him.
For Neil
Alone at an unfinished desk
Fifteen and adrift
Here they come again
Steps nearing the door
A fleeting thought
Becomes no more
Why must you waste so much time
Contemplating pointlessness
There are no answers
For the questions you seek
Nor any future
In rock and roll music
Slamming the carpet padded door
A tack drops to the floor
No more posters on the wall Son
You must become a man
Spending the rest of your life
With a passionless plan
The final note of Animals has ceased
With the stepping away
Thoughts are alive again
A Farewell To Kings
Needle upon vinyl
Too young for reminiscing
Pencil slides across paper
Dreams provide some relief
Neil speaks through the music
Goodbye yet too far away
What he just did
I must replay
All that was needed
All that was wanted
A pat on the back
That walked away
On and on
The music played
On and on
The music played
The man I never met
Seems like a next door neighbor
Keeping time or with prose
Shining a light
Probably unintended
Only living his life
Not a God nor a role model
No design for impacting life
In the right place at the right time
Associations align
The song is over
What now to do with my time
Tack up the poster and carry on
Open the curtains and let in the light
Crawl back to the desk
Upon the vinyl
Ease down the needle
Soon it becomes final
All that was needed
All that was wanted
A pat on the back
that walked away
On and on
The music played
On and on
The music plays
Rest in peace Neil. Your impact is unmeasurable.
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Geez, man. That was real nice.
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Neil's death is really shocking to me.
RIP to this legendary musician.
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Like many others, my intent over the last couple days was to post a tribute fitting
to the impact Neil had upon my life. However, after some contemplation and tears,
I decided Neil may have preferred something different. He was a creator. This is
my gift to him.
For Neil
Alone at an unfinished desk
Fifteen and adrift
Here they come again
Steps nearing the door
A fleeting thought
Becomes no more
Why must you waste so much time
Contemplating pointlessness
There are no answers
For the questions you seek
Nor any future
In rock and roll music
Slamming the carpet padded door
A tack drops to the floor
No more posters on the wall Son
You must become a man
Spending the rest of your life
With a passionless plan
The final note of Animals has ceased
With the stepping away
Thoughts are alive again
A Farewell To Kings
Needle upon vinyl
Too young for reminiscing
Pencil slides across paper
Dreams provide some relief
Neil speaks through the music
Goodbye yet too far away
What he just did
I must replay
All that was needed
All that was wanted
A pat on the back
That walked away
On and on
The music played
On and on
The music played
The man I never met
Seems like a next door neighbor
Keeping time or with prose
Shining a light
Probably unintended
Only living his life
Not a God nor a role model
No design for impacting life
In the right place at the right time
Associations align
The song is over
What now to do with my time
Tack up the poster and carry on
Open the curtains and let in the light
Crawl back to the desk
Upon the vinyl
Ease down the needle
Soon it becomes final
All that was needed
All that was wanted
A pat on the back
that walked away
On and on
The music played
On and on
The music plays
Rest in peace Neil. Your impact is unmeasurable.
[INSERT CITIZEN KANE APPLAUSE GIF]
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My 1st Rush album I bought when it came out. I was jealous seeing kids eith concert tees at school.
This was one of the bummers of going to Catholic school. We weren't allowed to wear concert shirts. I have a feeling I'd have made more friends if I could have seen who was into the same music.
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The picture at the bottom of this article ( https://metalheadzone.com/late-rush-legend-neil-pearts-last-picture-before-his-death-exposed/ ) is the last picture I recall seeing (and, I think, the last news about him). The title and premise of the article are (I believe) wrong.
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My 1st Rush album I bought when it came out. I was jealous seeing kids eith concert tees at school.
This was one of the bummers of going to Catholic school. We weren't allowed to wear concert shirts. I have a feeling I'd have made more friends if I could have seen who was into the same music.
I went to a Catholic school too. I sat behind a kid in school that I could see a Born Again shirt through his white dress shirt. We became best friends. In fact I referenced him in another thread as nagging me to see the Power Windows tour. I literally texted him this morning because he had pics of that show. Unfortunately he didn't take the care with his pics that I did with mine.
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I am crumbled. I can't find any words, through speech, or paper, or text; to describe how I'm feeling.
I first learned on Thursday. And couldn't sleep. I sat and cried all night.
I knew there would be a crescendo, a tidal wave, of pain when it would be announced. The shock wave on social media has been enormous; nearly audible. And that flooded over me and took my breath away. And I cried all day Friday, and Saturday too.
My wife finally made me get out of bed today. As I write this, I'm not sure what to say or even where this post will go.
So, I'll share this story. I learned he was sick about 18 months ago, but I didn't know how. Ged mentioned once he felt an urge to write more while he could. I thought that odd. At the time I reached out to say I hoped he was well.
Back when Clockwork Angels (Novel) came out he'd had an artist commission something for Al, Ged, and Kevin. In 2016 I was admiring it, and told Kevin how cool it was.
So when I sent my note a year and a half ago, he replied to my note of well wishes, with a note of his own; saying how he was doing fine, focused on just being a dad, and reminisced about the last time we were together. But he also sent me one of the pieces he'd had commissioned. He noted that Kevin told him I liked it.
I won't tell you what it is because that's private and I'd like to keep it that way. But that gesture, so Neil like, touched me in a way I can't describe. I will cherish it for the rest of my life. He was keenly intelligent, fiercely interested in life and in the people he knew, kind, thoughtful, loyal, and fully aware.
I am a very blessed human being. For a number of spectacular reasons. I have my health (mostly, for now), the love of my family and some incredibly amazing friends, I have been successful in my career more than I ever imagined. As I grow older I become more aware of an overpowering need to express my gratitude for all that luck, life, the universe, God, has afforded me. And I got the chance to meet and know my idols. It's hard sometimes to be around Geddy, even now, and not geek out. Because I have to always seperate being a fan of his and the bands, talents and music. The first time I heard Rush I was 12 years old. Instantly that music gently enveloped my soul and locked down on it, and never let go. Music does that to us. Science has shown us that we develop the ability to hear in the womb before we can see. Music permeates our body. It actually physically touches us with its sound waves. Whatever magic was in the music Rush produced touched me in a way that it gave me so many things to help shape my life.
My life, like everyone else has endured peaks and valleys. Some of those valleys have been so deep and full of despair I didn't think I could ever climb out. I have always felt that no matter how hard things were, that it was life simply preparing me to be able to handle times that were even going to be harder in the future. The music of Rush, and the words. My God, those words from Neil, touched my soul, and gave me hope, and inspiration.
I'm rambling right now. So I'll stop.
I only learned about 2 months ago how sick he really was. I wish I had told him once again how much his gift of music meant to me. When I had before he was always so appreciative but really humble and I tried not to make things awkward for him or myself. But he knew. In his note he mentioned how he enjoyed our times together, and hoped that I'd actually put his gift to use, and not let it sit around and collect dust. I always thought we weren't that close. We weren't in each others lives that way. But his note made me feel that we were. And, once again, I felt energized, inspired, and that word again. Grateful.
I am crumbled.
But Oh, so, so grateful to have met and known him and to have been alive to hear and be touched by his music.
Please keep his family in your prayers; and never let the light of the lessons of their music or the words he penned and shared with us ever dim, or fade away.
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Amen, Brother!
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So many wonderful tributes and stories on this page. Well done, people.
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I’m still shocked in disbelief and I’ve been listening to Rush nonstop since Friday afternoon. The world has lost a truly gifted and beautiful man. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family as well as Ged, Alex and the whole Rush family.
I’m thankful that I got to see them 3 times, all in Chicago. Once on Time Machine, once on CA and once on R40. The CA show even had an appearance from the Stanley Cup which Neal kissed and drummed on with his sticks.
RIP Professor, there will NEVER be another soul/talent like yours ❤️
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Thank you TempusVox.
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Tempus, was waiting for your post, knew you would write something when you felt the time was right. Thank you for sharing.
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Wow, Tempus knew Neil, amazing. Thoughts and love to you mate.
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Thank you TempusVox.
Yes. Thank you.
Day 3: Still very sad.
Have to admit that was one post I was waiting for.
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Thank you TempusVox.
Yes. Thank you.
Day 3: Still very sad.
Have to admit that was one post I was waiting for.
Pretty much all of this.
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Thanks TV....I was waiting for your post.
I'm still just....gutted. I still cry whenever I think about it.
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Thanks for sharing TV.....
Thanks for sharing everybody. I really don't think I've seen this level of emotional outpouring over an individual. As I've been doing my discography run, I was going through 2112 yesterday, cranking it in my car as I ran errands. I pulled up to the UPS store and got out. There was a guy about ten years younger than me, with his kid. He just looked at me, tapped his heart, and said "Neil"...and walked away. I have people who I had zero clue were Rush fans expressing their dismay at his passing. I'm so glad I don't have to just sit with myself and the music, I'm so grateful that we're all sitting in this together, it really means a great deal to me.
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TempusVox, I'm sorry for your loss. :(
If you feel like talking about it, how did you come to know Neil? (Totally understand if you don't.)
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Thank you for your post TV, I’m sorry I just dropped my post right after yours like that. I’m sorry for your loss and I’m glad you cherish your relationship with such a great soul like his.
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I'm sure I'm not alone with the feeling of tracing what music means to me, that can be traced to finding Rush's music, and it brings back so much nostalgia.
And with Neil dying, it's the feeling of my youth dying.
But wanting to hold on and remembering the memories of especially when I fell in love with them, and by extension music in general.
I kind have always felt I owe nearly all of my love for music to loving Rush.
I guess that is why this loss feels more impactful than others.
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https://www.facebook.com/kevin.savo.7/videos/10218992164709522/UzpfSTE3MTUzMjk2NTY6MTAyMDc0MjYyNzMyMTEwOTI/
A great tribute a friend of mine did. Very well done. It has definitely gone viral and has over 50k views.
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Thanks, TV.
I'm sorry for your pain, but if it helps, your post has helped me through some of mine. Again, thank you.
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A little late posting here as I generally only stop by the forum while at work.
This was a rough one...
My daughter called me as I was arriving home from work Friday afternoon:
"Are you driving?"
Just got home, sitting in the driveway
"Have you been on Facebook or Twitter lately?"
No
"Umm, Neil Peart died..."
Silence
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I took her to R30 when she was just 11 years old, she's 27 now. Her first concert, she knew how much this would crush me.
I sat out in my garage man cave for most of Friday night, raised a few beers to toast the man. Listened to Rush all night with a pair of drumsticks in my hand (I'm not a drummer, it just felt right).
I'm no wordsmith, so I will paraphrase a few things I read by others over the weekend that stood out to me, or gave me comfort:
"The earth is 5 billion years old, and we were lucky enough to exist in the same time as Rush"
and
"He was your favorite drummer's favorite drummer"
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RIP Neil Elwood Peart, "The Professor"
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Edited to ad my Rush shows:
1980 - Permanent Waves - The Palladium, NYC
1981 - Moving Pictures - Madison Square Garden, NYC
1983 - Signals - Convention Center Arena, San Antonio (was stationed here in USAF)
**Big gap**
2002 - Vapor Trails - Continental Airlines Arena, NJ
2004 - R30 - PNC Arts Center - NJ
2007 - Snakes and Arrows - PNC Arts Center, NJ
2011 - Time Machine - Madison Square Garden, NYC
2015 - R40 - Prudential Center, Newark, NJ
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Thank you for your service; I was not in the USAF, but I spent a lot of time doing environmental work at Air Force facilities, and so spent a goodly amount of time in San Antone, particularly at Kelly AFB.
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Thank you for your post TV, I’m sorry I just dropped my post right after yours like that. I’m sorry for your loss and I’m glad you cherish your relationship with such a great soul like his.
Please don't apologize. There is absolutely no need to apologize for sharing your feelings. It's difficult for so many of us to process this loss because of what the music meant to so many of us. My pain is maybe different perhaps, but no more deeper than anyone else's. Thank you all for your kind words, though. It means a lot right now..
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Im still very down over the loss of Neil
I realize it was prob 1979 I first saw them on the Hemispheres tour, it was really amazing
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Like everyone, I was playing RUSH nonstop at home over the weekend. I was doing some reorganizing of our den, which is a music shrine, and discovered while taking some things out of storage and putting it into bookcases, that I still had my Rush VAPOR TRAILS tour tourbook. I flipped through it and man, it just hit home. I can't believe I saw that first show back in Hartford, 2002.
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Great post by TV and so many others.
I get why some are having trouble listen to Rush in light of this news, but it has been the opposite for me. I have listened to nothing but Rush since Friday afternoon, and I am viewing it as a celebration of all of the music that Neil, Alex and Geddy gave us for 40 years.
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Great post by TV and so many others.
I get why some are having trouble listen to Rush in light of this news, but it has been the opposite for me. I have listened to nothing but Rush since Friday afternoon, and I am viewing it as a celebration of all of the music that Neil, Alex and Geddy gave us for 40 years.
Amen. That's what I'm doing. Most of us didn't know the man. We just know what we heard, and what glimpses he gave us. And I can't think of a better tribute to Neil (speaking as just a fan). Rush marathon.
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Thank you for your post TV, I’m sorry I just dropped my post right after yours like that. I’m sorry for your loss and I’m glad you cherish your relationship with such a great soul like his.
Please don't apologize. There is absolutely no need to apologize for sharing your feelings. It's difficult for so many of us to process this loss because of what the music meant to so many of us. My pain is maybe different perhaps, but no more deeper than anyone else's. Thank you all for your kind words, though. It means a lot right now..
Your pain is a bit different because of your personal connection and experiences with Neil... we all feel pain, but perhaps you feel it in a different way. So, prayers for you and your family, prayers for Neil's family, and prayers for the DTF family as a whole. As written here by many others, music is the soundtrack to our lives, and when the music stops for one of "us", it makes all of our lives darker and all of our lights flicker with the passing.
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R.I.P. Neil.
I heard the sad news last friday night. I woke up the next morning and felt like I needed to do something in his honour. So I sat down with my guitar, learned and recorded a little cover of YYZ (I found the backing track online). I had never played this song before, so it was quite a challenge.
Hope you enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XwSiwooMM0
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found this tribute to the man and legend Mr Neil Peart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWoMIlivrtU
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Great post by TV and so many others.
I get why some are having trouble listen to Rush in light of this news, but it has been the opposite for me. I have listened to nothing but Rush since Friday afternoon, and I am viewing it as a celebration of all of the music that Neil, Alex and Geddy gave us for 40 years.
I'm listening to Rush all week. Started with Fly by Night and will continue through the entire discography including live alums. :tup :hefdaddy
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Great post by TV and so many others.
I get why some are having trouble listen to Rush in light of this news, but it has been the opposite for me. I have listened to nothing but Rush since Friday afternoon, and I am viewing it as a celebration of all of the music that Neil, Alex and Geddy gave us for 40 years.
That's kind of me. I get it, of course, and to each their own, but Chris Squire and John Wetton meant more to me personally, and for me, the gift of all these people is that they took an instrument - the same instruments I have/had in my own bedroom and played for people - and made a connection that I can only dream about. So why not celebrate that and remember and embrace that connection?
I was working on my Jeep this weekend and I put in Fly By Night, Caress Of Steel, Exit...Stage Left, Signals, and A Show Of Hands and just let it play. At one point, I was under the Jeep inspecting the fuel tank assembly and tapping along to Jacob's Ladder on the differential. :)
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Hard to find words.
Just RIP, and lots of love to his family.
This one hit really hard :sad:
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I saw on Facebook that there are a couple billboards off the 95 near Philadelphia that say, "Farewell to the King - Neil Peart 1952-2020," with a picture of Neil at the drumkit. Very cool!
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That's awesome! :)
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Thought of everyone here after hearing the news Friday afternoon. I just got back home from a vacation and got some new blisters on my fingers playing along to some of my favorite songs, and listening to my favorite Neil lyrics. It stings a bit instinctively air-drumming and realizing he's gone, but overall the effect has been positive.
His words keep speaking to me as different songs become more relevant to my life as I get older. Never pretentious, never stuck in just one way of thinking, and always relevant to anyone who wanted to listen. I'm thankful I got to see them on the R40 tour one last time, and I hope his last days were as peaceful as they could have been.
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Yeah that was cool driving home a seeing a billboard on 76 in Philly this afternoon. I also have to give props to THE radio station in Philly that's been here for 51 years, WMMR. They paid tribute to Neil for about 3 1/2 hours yesterday and then again for a couple of hours today. Very classy. MP even called in yesterday for about 20 minutes or so, which was really cool
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As sad as it is that Neil has passed, and as sad as I am for seeing another chunk of my youth fall away, I keep going back that there's a 10 y/o little girl, who spent the last couple of years watching her father die, now without a Dad.
I'm on S&A right now, and for all its warts, this album might have my favorite line of Neil's in the entire catalog.
"Though we might have precious little
It's still precious"
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As sad as it is that Neil has passed, and as sad as I am for seeing another chunk of my youth fall away, I keep going back that there's a 10 y/o little girl, who spent the last couple of years watching her father die, now without a Dad.
Yeah, that's what keeps throat punching me.
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I've been watching the show The Expanse on Amazon.
In episode 5, they need to rename their ship.
They decide to call it The Rocinante.
I ****ing.......LOST....IT.
It took me 5 minutes to compose myself so I could explain to my wife what the heck just happened.
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I've been watching the show The Expanse on Amazon.
In episode 5, they need to rename their ship.
They decide to call it The Rocinante.
Pretty sure that was a Rush nod as one the earliest tweets I saw regarding Neil's death was from the account of James S. A. Corey.
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Here's what I wrote about losing Neil: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/a-reflection-on-the-loss-of-neil-peart/
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As sad as it is that Neil has passed, and as sad as I am for seeing another chunk of my youth fall away, I keep going back that there's a 10 y/o little girl, who spent the last couple of years watching her father die, now without a Dad.
Yeah, that's what keeps throat punching me.
Same here. Having gone through this with my Dad a few weeks prior, I'm sad he's gone, but I really feel for my son and my niece and nephews who won't get to keep making memories with their Grandpa. My brother's kids lost both of their grandpas, 2 great grandparents, and one of their uncles in the past two years. That's a lot of death for kids that are 5-7 years old.
Watching someone slowly die of cancer fucking sucks. My Dad fought like a champ, but watching what the various treatments do to the body, the cure is almost worse than the disease. As I stated earlier, my Dad was born a few weeks earlier than Neil Peart, and he died a few weeks before him as well. Seeing my Dad in the hospital at the end was one of the toughest things I've ever had to deal with. My Dad was indestructible in my eyes. Neil as well. I can and can't imagine how hard it was for Neil's wife and daughter at the end.
Neil as a drummer was one of my all time favorites, but I'm glad Neil wrote his books, too. It was great to get a window into how he thought and lived while still maintaining his privacy, if that makes sense. I gained a whole new level of respect and admiration of Neil through his books and his writings on his website. It helped humanize him in my eyes. My Dad was the one who discovered Neil's books and let me borrow Ghost Rider. I'm looking forward to reading that again.
Death really puts things in perspective. The passing of my Dad and Neil, while sad, gives me two shining examples of how to live going forward. They both had three year battles against aggressive cancers that they fought until they couldn't any more. I'm glad I got the time I did with my Dad, and I hope Neil was able to get quality time with his wife and daughter.
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Here's what I wrote about losing Neil: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/a-reflection-on-the-loss-of-neil-peart/
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Thank you, that was helpfully healing.
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Nice to read everyone's comments. It's insane the amount of people Neil touched.
Just saw Danny Carey did a tribute to him during a live show https://youtu.be/zfIqkT8Y6do
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Here's what I wrote about losing Neil: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/a-reflection-on-the-loss-of-neil-peart/
That was very heartfelt Rodrigo, thanks for sharing!
I was just watching Rush in Rio with a friend last night, and I happened to notice the "we are not worthy" gestures during Freewill. That is such a great show!
I was also watching on YouTube Rush at The Gorge 2011 time machine tour, final show of the tour. I remember Neil posting on his website that it was the best show they had ever played in their career, that night at the Gorge. I could actually feel the vibe, even from the YouTube videos.
I missed that show due to bummer "circumstances" I won't go into, but I had a friend that went and he said it was the most awesome thing he had ever witnessed in his life!
I'm grateful for being able to see Rush 10x in my life and getting to know them as a band. Neil's books are fantastic and give a lot of insight to the depth he has as an individual. I read Ghost Rider, Roadshow, and Traveling Music. Neil's attention to detail is amazing and he had quite extensive knowledge on many subjects. That also shows in his lyrical contents and how he constructed the drum parts to each song.
Very inspirational, and he will be truly missed! My heart goes out to Neil's family, friends, and Geddy and Alex. Thank you Rush for creating a wonderful soundtrack to a big part of my life, which also inspired me to become a musician myself. I never knew music could be so cool until I discovered Rush music. :heart
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Here's what I wrote about losing Neil: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/a-reflection-on-the-loss-of-neil-peart/
That was very heartfelt Rodrigo, thanks for sharing!
I was just watching Rush in Rio with a friend last night, and I happened to notice the "we are not worthy" gestures during Freewill. That is such a great show!
I was also watching on YouTube Rush at The Gorge 2011 time machine tour, final show of the tour. I remember Neil posting on his website that it was the best show they had ever played in their career, that night at the Gorge. I could actually feel the vibe, even from the YouTube videos.
I missed that show due to bummer "circumstances" I won't go into, but I had a friend that went and he said it was the most awesome thing he had ever witnessed in his life!
I'm grateful for being able to see Rush 10x in my life and getting to know them as a band. Neil's books are fantastic and give a lot of insight to the depth he has as an individual. I read Ghost Rider, Roadshow, and Traveling Music. Neil's attention to detail is amazing and he had quite extensive knowledge on many subjects. That also shows in his lyrical contents and how he constructed the drum parts to each song.
Very inspirational, and he will be truly missed! My heart goes out to Neil's family, friends, and Geddy and Alex. Thank you Rush for creating a wonderful soundtrack to a big part of my life, which also inspired me to become a musician myself. I never knew music could be so cool until I discovered Rush music. :heart
I did not know he said that about the George show. That makes me wish I would have gone. I only passed on it because I had just seen the Time Machine Tour the previous August at the White River Amphitheater in Auburn.
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As sad as it is that Neil has passed, and as sad as I am for seeing another chunk of my youth fall away, I keep going back that there's a 10 y/o little girl, who spent the last couple of years watching her father die, now without a Dad.
I think that’s one of the things that makes me really sad about the whole thing. If it’s one thing that is conveyed throughout Ghost Rider is that he was truly a loving father and really involved and losing his daughter sent his world crashing down.
He got another opportunity to be a father and as much as we don’t know much about Olivia, we do know again what a loving father he was and how his world revolved around her. I would presume that’s part of why he wanted to stop touring, to be with his daughter more. MP talked about how a lot of Neil’s emails would revolve around Olivia and fatherhood.
Now, like Neil losing his child back in the 90s, Olivia loses her dad. Neil was a great dad from what little we knew and it makes me sad that she won’t get to grow up with him in her life. Hopefully with the diagnosis what it was, they had time to make some great memories together.
I’ve still thought about Neil almost everyday. For as private as he was, we knew a lot about him and his feelings and thoughts. I think that’s what makes this one hard. I felt like I knew him
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That is crazy that with 30+ years of touring experience one can pinpoint one's best show. Not crazy in a "I don't believe that shit" way, but in a "damn that is amazing" way.
Looked at the calendar for that show, Julu 02, 2011. My first daughter would have been about 6 weeks old. I have never been a big concert guy, but this is one of a very few shows I'd make a point to see if I could go back in the "Time Machine." Only been to the Gorge once, back in 2000(?). Always think of it as the venue stoners go to to see Dave Matthews.
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Here's what I wrote about losing Neil: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/a-reflection-on-the-loss-of-neil-peart/
I quite liked that line “you were lucky to know who he was. A lot of people never will or will never care. You do.”
Thanks for that - I'll now consider myself luck to be a Rush fan in a world full of people who only like whatever rubbish is on the radio this week.
It's quite interesting how many people are suffering from grief for someone who they didn't really know. My Mom was a big Elvis fan, but she didn't grieve like this when Elvis died, in fact, she'd probably find it funny that I'm as upset as I am. It speaks volumes about our changing relationships with popular culture.
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Very, very sad, and far too young.
Snakes & Arrows and Clockwork Angels are a tremendous final act for what is an impeccable artistic run.
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That's awesome Kev! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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It really is. 20 years ago, that never would have happened. While Rush was "mainstream" in the 90's, they were usually either ignored by the mainstream or bashed. For decades, the only time Rolling Stone would mention them was in a negative way. Neil never would have made their best drummers list back then, yet there we were in the 2010's with Neil being (I think) 4th on that list, and then the entire band making the cover of RS! Maybe it is the younger critics nowadays who have embraced them and the grumpy old dipshit ones are either retired or gone, but there was a huge resurgence of Rush in the last 15 years or so where it became cool to be a fan of the band (when it was allegedly uncool to be a fan of theirs in the 80's and 90's). Madison Square Garden putting his picture up like that is a testament to how huge the Neil Peart legacy now is. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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I just thought of a little story.
Back in April and June 1990 (Presto tour), my friend and I went to a couple shows at outdoor arenas in Orange County, CA. For one of the shows (don't remember which one), we decided to show up at the venue in the early afternoon to see if we could hear any of the soundcheck or maybe score an autograph. We basically stood at a gate that was a few hundred yards from the backstage area, heard and saw nothing (I think there were a couple of "hey, that might be Geddy!" incidents), and left after a few hours. While we were there, we were chatting with a woman/girl who was there for the same reason. I can't remember if she was visiting from out of town or just stalking the band at their hotel, but she told us that she was hanging out by the pool at the hotel where the band was staying and saw Neil sitting with his wife and daughter (if my math is right, Selena would have been about 12 at the time). She said she didn't walk up to him until he got up by himself and was leaving the pool area. She approached him and asked for an autograph, explaining that she didn't want to disturb him while he was sitting with his family. She said he was very gracious, gave her the autograph, and expressed appreciation for her having waited to approach him.
That story always stuck with me in terms of how to comport myself as a fan if I should ever have the privilege of meeting someone like Neil outside of the normal context.
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It really is. 20 years ago, that never would have happened. While Rush was "mainstream" in the 90's, they were usually either ignored by the mainstream or bashed. For decades, the only time Rolling Stone would mention them was in a negative way. Neil never would have made their best drummers list back then, yet there we were in the 2010's with Neil being (I think) 4th on that list, and then the entire band making the cover of RS! Maybe it is the younger critics nowadays who have embraced them and the grumpy old dipshit ones are either retired or gone, but there was a huge resurgence of Rush in the last 15 years or so where it became cool to be a fan of the band (when it was allegedly uncool to be a fan of theirs in the 80's and 90's). Madison Square Garden putting his picture up like that is a testament to how huge the Neil Peart legacy now is. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
One of the reasons is that in the 80's Rush and Iron Maiden were some of high schoolers most beloved bands. Now, those high schoolers are in positions of influence, and the guy in charge of the screen there at MSG was probably listening to Rush in high school in 1984.
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One of the reasons is that in the 80's Rush and Iron Maiden were some of high schoolers most beloved bands. Now, those high schoolers are in positions of influence, and the guy in charge of the screen there at MSG was probably listening to Rush in high school in 1984.
You might very well be right.
Meanwhile, the critic who rubbed himself raw at night thinking about U2 and R.E.M. is still mumbling to himself that Rush sucks.
Note: I love U2 and really like R.E.M.
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I never realized the video for Neil's drum solo from the Test for Echo tour was on YouTube. This is my favorite drum solo of his. I listened to this more times than I can remember from the Different Stages double live CD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPSQf6x8D-I
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It really is. 20 years ago, that never would have happened. While Rush was "mainstream" in the 90's, they were usually either ignored by the mainstream or bashed. For decades, the only time Rolling Stone would mention them was in a negative way. Neil never would have made their best drummers list back then, yet there we were in the 2010's with Neil being (I think) 4th on that list, and then the entire band making the cover of RS! Maybe it is the younger critics nowadays who have embraced them and the grumpy old dipshit ones are either retired or gone, but there was a huge resurgence of Rush in the last 15 years or so where it became cool to be a fan of the band (when it was allegedly uncool to be a fan of theirs in the 80's and 90's). Madison Square Garden putting his picture up like that is a testament to how huge the Neil Peart legacy now is. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
One of the reasons is that in the 80's Rush and Iron Maiden were some of high schoolers most beloved bands. Now, those high schoolers are in positions of influence, and the guy in charge of the screen there at MSG was probably listening to Rush in high school in 1984.
There were three bands that were HUGE in my high school while I was there: AC/DC, Van Halen, and Rush. Everyone else was a close or distant second, but still second. Remember covering your books in paper bags? There are more textbooks in Monroe's archives with the "AC/DC", Flying VH, and Pentagram logos etched into the real cover of the book to shake a tamborine at. I used to make mirrors and sell them (wood frame, painted glass, with the logo of a band etched into the paint, with tin foil behind it) and I made more AC/DC than all others combined. VH and Rush were the second most popular (then Ozzy).
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Stadler, I mentioned the same thing in another thread. For my junior high years, it was about three bands. AC/DC, Van Halen, and Rush. And hell yes, I had paper bag covered books covered in rock band logos! :lol
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I never realized the video for Neil's drum solo from the Test for Echo tour was on YouTube. This is my favorite drum solo of his. I listened to this more times than I can remember from the Different Stages double live CD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPSQf6x8D-I
I was there! (the Different Stages version that is)
Although, if I remember, I thought the one from the first leg at the United Center was a little better than the Tinley Park one.
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I'll admit to have imagined some of my classmates thinking of me after seeing this news.
I was clearly, the only Rush fan I knew of, among my class and maybe even my entire High School in the early 90's.
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I've just remembered the story Neil told about riding across America on his bike, feeling sorry for himself. He pulls in to some diner, and sits there asking himself why bad things always happen to him.
Then a song comes on the radio, and answers it for him.
The song?
"Why does it happen? Because it happens - Roll the Bones..."
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I've just remembered the story Neil told about riding across America on his bike, feeling sorry for himself. He pulls in to some diner, and sits there asking himself why bad things always happen to him.
Then a song comes on the radio, and answers it for him.
The song?
"Why does it happen? Because it happens - Roll the Bones..."
Was it really that song, or meeting Puppies_On_Acid while there? :)
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I've just remembered the story Neil told about riding across America on his bike, feeling sorry for himself. He pulls in to some diner, and sits there asking himself why bad things always happen to him.
Then a song comes on the radio, and answers it for him.
The song?
"Why does it happen? Because it happens - Roll the Bones..."
Was it really that song, or meeting Puppies_On_Acid while there? :)
:lol Except I met him at a gas station.
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I never realized the video for Neil's drum solo from the Test for Echo tour was on YouTube. This is my favorite drum solo of his. I listened to this more times than I can remember from the Different Stages double live CD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPSQf6x8D-I
Yep, that's the quintessential NP drum solo for sure. Seen it many times. :tup
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It looks like Ghost Rider has sold out at Amazon. Wow...
I don;t suppose my relationship to Rush and NP's lyrics is that terribly different than many of the other here, but it was still impactful on me. I grew up in what I will charitably call "Real America", where there was a heavy emphasis on being blue collar/farmer, listening to country music, using chewing tobacco, and where anti-intellectualism was seen as a point of pride. As a bookish introvert, this was...not a great environment for me. I had been aware of Rush in a general sense, but I was 15 when RtB came out and I first heard Dreamline. I was hooked, and I felt like there was finally something out there that was on my wavelength, that in a way I wasn't alone in being this way. I immediately switched from guitar to bass, and got good at it very quickly, mostly by learning Geddy's basslines. I became a Rush completist pretty quickly, and I was really the only person in my entire school that listened to them. It had a resonance with me that nothing else did.
College was pretty rough for me in parts...I was neither socially nor academically prepared for the jump from backwoods hick to top-25 college. I leaned on Rush a lot during the darkest parts...especially stuff like Marathon, The Pass and Bravado. And throughout college, it was my constant companion for studying.
Back before my body decided that it hated running, I cannot begin to calculate the number of hours of Rush I listened to while running on country roads and rails through the woods. I would be so inside the music that I would forget that I was even running.
I don't know if I would call Rush my favorite band, but they have mattered more than any other.
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It really is. 20 years ago, that never would have happened. While Rush was "mainstream" in the 90's, they were usually either ignored by the mainstream or bashed. For decades, the only time Rolling Stone would mention them was in a negative way. Neil never would have made their best drummers list back then, yet there we were in the 2010's with Neil being (I think) 4th on that list, and then the entire band making the cover of RS! Maybe it is the younger critics nowadays who have embraced them and the grumpy old dipshit ones are either retired or gone, but there was a huge resurgence of Rush in the last 15 years or so where it became cool to be a fan of the band (when it was allegedly uncool to be a fan of theirs in the 80's and 90's). Madison Square Garden putting his picture up like that is a testament to how huge the Neil Peart legacy now is. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
One of the reasons is that in the 80's Rush and Iron Maiden were some of high schoolers most beloved bands. Now, those high schoolers are in positions of influence, and the guy in charge of the screen there at MSG was probably listening to Rush in high school in 1984.
There were three bands that were HUGE in my high school while I was there: AC/DC, Van Halen, and Rush. Everyone else was a close or distant second, but still second. Remember covering your books in paper bags? There are more textbooks in Monroe's archives with the "AC/DC", Flying VH, and Pentagram logos etched into the real cover of the book to shake a tamborine at. I used to make mirrors and sell them (wood frame, painted glass, with the logo of a band etched into the paint, with tin foil behind it) and I made more AC/DC than all others combined. VH and Rush were the second most popular (then Ozzy).
I really wish I had gone to your or TAC's school....
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I never realized the video for Neil's drum solo from the Test for Echo tour was on YouTube. This is my favorite drum solo of his. I listened to this more times than I can remember from the Different Stages double live CD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPSQf6x8D-I
Yep, that's the quintessential NP drum solo for sure. Seen it many times. :tup
I have a rare concert on video from the vapor trails tour at the Staples center in L.A. called Attack of the Meat Bees. It has my favorite NP drum solo, he was in rare form that night. Great audio and video for a audience recording. Sounds much better than R.I.R.
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An radio interview with Sully Erna from Godsmack is circulating. I'm glad to hear he had become friends with Neil as Sully had asked Neil to play drums on their track Serenity which written about Ghost Rider. Neil declined, but it looks like he made a friend regardless.
This is the sad revelation:
According to Erna, he knew about Peart's battle with brain cancer "for a while," but was "asked, out of respect for Neil and the privacy he liked to live in, to just not say anything. But I knew, when they were ending the RUSH tour, that he was sick," Sully claimed. "And then I knew it, even up to a year ago or so, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't speak. And it was just becoming more and more sad to me. And then I got the call a few days ago [letting me know about his death]. And they weren't supposed to release [an official statement about it] till [Friday], they told me, so I just chose to honor that request and keep my mouth shut.
That's just a gut punch to read.
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An radio interview with Sully Erna from Godsmack is circulating. I'm glad to hear he had become friends with Neil as Sully had asked Neil to play drums on their track Serenity which written about Ghost Rider. Neil declined, but it looks like he made a friend regardless.
This is the sad revelation:
According to Erna, he knew about Peart's battle with brain cancer "for a while," but was "asked, out of respect for Neil and the privacy he liked to live in, to just not say anything. But I knew, when they were ending the RUSH tour, that he was sick," Sully claimed. "And then I knew it, even up to a year ago or so, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't speak. And it was just becoming more and more sad to me. And then I got the call a few days ago [letting me know about his death]. And they weren't supposed to release [an official statement about it] till [Friday], they told me, so I just chose to honor that request and keep my mouth shut.
That's just a gut punch to read.
Sully should've kept his mouth shut after his death too. I think it's really disrespectful to his family and his memory to bring up that aspect of his illness. MP is starting to approach that line with his constant media appearances, but I hope people don't start using Neil's death to further their own agendas.
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An radio interview with Sully Erna from Godsmack is circulating. I'm glad to hear he had become friends with Neil as Sully had asked Neil to play drums on their track Serenity which written about Ghost Rider. Neil declined, but it looks like he made a friend regardless.
This is the sad revelation:
According to Erna, he knew about Peart's battle with brain cancer "for a while," but was "asked, out of respect for Neil and the privacy he liked to live in, to just not say anything. But I knew, when they were ending the RUSH tour, that he was sick," Sully claimed. "And then I knew it, even up to a year ago or so, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't speak. And it was just becoming more and more sad to me. And then I got the call a few days ago [letting me know about his death]. And they weren't supposed to release [an official statement about it] till [Friday], they told me, so I just chose to honor that request and keep my mouth shut.
That's just a gut punch to read.
Sully should've kept his mouth shut after his death too. I think it's really disrespectful to his family and his memory to bring up that aspect of his illness. MP is starting to approach that line with his constant media appearances, but I hope people don't start using Neil's death to further their own agendas.
Yeah, that was incredibly classless. And if I have my meeting right, he's full of shit. NP was diagnosed 3.5 years ago, but the last show was 4.5 years ago.
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Someone at some point in Geddy's various book signings over the past 12-plus months (however long it's been) must have asked him, "so, how's Neil enjoying retirement?" or something like that. If my assumption is correct, I wonder how Geddy responded?
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And if I have my meeting right, he's full of shit. NP was diagnosed 3.5 years ago, but the last show was 4.5 years ago.
That was the first thing that stood out at me from that comment. Sure, Neil had a variety of ailments (mentioned quite freely after the tour) during R40, but all the official releases say 3.5 years with brain cancer.
I've been wondering if/how I could watch any of the interviews he's done in the past 1-2 years, now knowing that *he* knew what Neil's health was. Yeah... that must've been hard not to just breakdown.
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The band members of Queen had to go through the same during Freddie's illness. That definitely affected them for years afterwards, but with AIDS, the feelings and attitudes are/were 'different'. No need to explain.
I don't know if what Sully said was 'classless' or not. During the final year, the inability to speak and walk are common knowledge to those who have been around it. He wasn't exactly releasing an unknown that many of us already surmised. So, I'll give him a pass for that comment.
Trivial: I received my email receipt for my $21.12 donation to the American Cancer Society in Neil's name. There was a $1.16 'fee' involved. I knew that when I donated. My email receipt shows my donation as '$22.28'. Wonder if someone will come out with a song or album with that title in the upcoming year. If so, we'll know what it stands for.
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An radio interview with Sully Erna from Godsmack is circulating. I'm glad to hear he had become friends with Neil as Sully had asked Neil to play drums on their track Serenity which written about Ghost Rider. Neil declined, but it looks like he made a friend regardless.
This is the sad revelation:
According to Erna, he knew about Peart's battle with brain cancer "for a while," but was "asked, out of respect for Neil and the privacy he liked to live in, to just not say anything. But I knew, when they were ending the RUSH tour, that he was sick," Sully claimed. "And then I knew it, even up to a year ago or so, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't speak. And it was just becoming more and more sad to me. And then I got the call a few days ago [letting me know about his death]. And they weren't supposed to release [an official statement about it] till [Friday], they told me, so I just chose to honor that request and keep my mouth shut.
That's just a gut punch to read.
Sully should've kept his mouth shut after his death too. I think it's really disrespectful to his family and his memory to bring up that aspect of his illness. MP is starting to approach that line with his constant media appearances, but I hope people don't start using Neil's death to further their own agendas.
Yeah, that was incredibly classless. And if I have my meeting right, he's full of shit. NP was diagnosed 3.5 years ago, but the last show was 4.5 years ago.
Why would anyone reveal something like this? Everyone who knew Neil (or knew anything about Neil!) should know how private he was. He had his reasons why he kept his illness a secret. I don't know anything about Sully Erna, but it looks like he is an idiot.
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Mike Portnoy also acknowledged he knew he was sick as well. Listen, even musicians are fanboys and can't help but talk about Neil after his passing.
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Mike Portnoy also acknowledged he knew he was sick as well. Listen, even musicians are fanboys and can't help but talk about Neil after his passing.
Right...but there's a different between acknowledging having known that he was sick, and compromising the person's dignity before the body is even cold (I don't think that dignity should end when the heart stops).. And he tried to paint himself as the hero for not blabbing prior to Friday. He made it about himself, which was again really fucking douchey.
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No, I get it. People tend to blab way too much when it's about an idol and they actually have a connection with them. Even if they are in the spotlight. Sully and MP have very similar personalities.
Random side note. I went to school with Sully in a catholic school for a half year in 4th grade until he was kicked out. In Lawrence Mass.
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And if I have my meeting right, he's full of shit. NP was diagnosed 3.5 years ago, but the last show was 4.5 years ago.
That was the first thing that stood out at me from that comment. Sure, Neil had a variety of ailments (mentioned quite freely after the tour) during R40, but all the official releases say 3.5 years with brain cancer.
I've been wondering if/how I could watch any of the interviews he's done in the past 1-2 years, now knowing that *he* knew what Neil's health was. Yeah... that must've been hard not to just breakdown.
Couple things: my dad is for all intents and purposes handicapped, and has been battling crippling rheaumatoid arthritis for the better part of 45 years. I know that he knew something was very very wrong YEARS (about two, if the memories are correct) before there was an official diagnosis. So "knowing you're not what you once were" and "knowing you're sick" and "knowing you have brain cancer" are not necessarily the same things.
As for the interviews, I noted this early on. I just watched a Geddy interview he gave about a year or so ago - it's on the YouTubes - at a radio station (I think it's Q104; it's about the Book Of Bass, ostensibly). There's no really good way of saying it. He didn't lie, per se, as there is no "false truth", but it is a lie by omission. I don't mean that judgmentally, or to be critical of Geddy. It's to my mind the equivalent of saying "You are BEAUTIFUL, my dear!" to answer the question "Do I look fat in this dress?". They're talking about artists, and passion, and retirement, and Geddy KNOWS that Neil couldn't even if he wanted to, and while it's couched in terms of the demand of a rock and roll drummer, there is CLEARLY, in the context of hindsight, that there is more to the story.
EDIT: Here's the interview: https://youtu.be/nkag0XWMEaE Watch from about 15:00. The line where Geddy says "[Neil} doesn't want to give a lesser version of himself", explains a lot, including the general notion of not revealing the illness.
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No, I get it. People tend to blab way too much when it's about an idol and they actually have a connection with them. Even if they are in the spotlight. Sully and MP have very similar personalities.
Random side note. I went to school with Sully in a catholic school for a half year in 4th grade until he was kicked out. In Lawrence Mass.
Was he a dick?
(That's a joke; he was likely 9-10 years old.)
By the way, I don't see anything at all wrong with Sully or Portnoy. People grieve as people grieve. A close friend of mine lost his brother, and his mom actually climbed into the hole at the burial ceremony. I shit you not, I witnessed it with my own eyes.
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EDIT: Here's the interview: https://youtu.be/nkag0XWMEaE Watch from about 15:00. The line where Geddy says "[Neil} doesn't want to give a lesser version of himself", explains a lot, including the general notion of not revealing the illness.
Yeah, but that's not anything new. That's pretty much explicitly stated in the Time Stand Still documentary. When Neil says (along the lines of) 'I could easily play Charlie Watts' drum parts into my 70s, but I can't continue to play Neil Peart's drum parts'.
I was thinking of it more along the lines of how to even talk about ANYTHING related Neil without breaking down... knowing that he was terminally ill.
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People grieve as people grieve.
Quite.
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EDIT: Here's the interview: https://youtu.be/nkag0XWMEaE Watch from about 15:00. The line where Geddy says "[Neil} doesn't want to give a lesser version of himself", explains a lot, including the general notion of not revealing the illness.
Yeah, but that's not anything new. That's pretty much explicitly stated in the Time Stand Still documentary. When Neil says (along the lines of) 'I could easily play Charlie Watts' drum parts into my 70s, but I can't continue to play Neil Peart's drum parts'.
I was thinking of it more along the lines of how to even talk about ANYTHING related Neil without breaking down... knowing that he was terminally ill.
No, I understand; that's Geddy giving the same "line" but we get to assess it with new information. Watch the vid; you can clearly see him measuring his words. There's an interview with Neil where he says the same thing, but I don't think it's completely unfair to reassess those words in light of what we know now. Was that "arthritis" in fact a precursor to his later illness? Was that "deterioration" at least in part a sign of early symptoms? Some of the muscular symptoms of brain cancer are not dissimilar to those of arthritis.
And remember, we're looking at this from hindsight, he's looking at this in real time. I was working on my car this weekend and crawling around under the chassis, and getting up slower and slower each time. My first thought is "I'm not young anymore". I have it in my family and even I didn't think "Oh, I must be getting arthritis" and I CERTAINLY didn't think "oh I have brain cancer". I don't write this to be insensitive or inconsiderate, just to say that our information isn't what Neil's or Geddy's was/is, but even theirs wasn't likely reliable in real time.
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Not sure I remember a bigger global
outpouring from musicians and fans. Not
even when Bonzo died.
I wonder what he would have thought?
Strange how these things happen after
someone is gone. I have a feeling his stance
on strangers as friends would have been
modified had he been able to hear everyone"s
heart felt comments.
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John Lennon, though that could be a measure of how he died.
(Said the man who is fast turning into the forum curmudgeon, apparently.)
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It's not a competition. The internets certainly make a difference as well. So, let's please not go there.
But....nothing will ever top Lennon's passing. Due to the circumstances, Ritchie Valens, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Lynyrd Skynryd....just plain sucked. But time has passed. And Hendrix, and this artist, and that artist.
George Harrison's passing still hurts. Freddie Mercury's due to AIDs (and because no band's music moved me like their's did when they were 'on').
Hell, I had tickets for both Lynyrd Skyryd and Led Zeppelin before being cancelled due to deaths. Our next planned concert after Bonham's death was Queen at Joe Louis Arena. 'Things come in threes' was certainly on our minds.
Oh, and then there was Elvis. The great Groucho Marx died three days later, but one hardly knew due to all the press coverage regarding Presley.
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I remember Gen Simmons and Paul Stanley being upset over the coverage of Eric Carr's death. Very little coverage because he passed away the same day as Freddie Mercury.
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As has been noted, the presence of social media and the 24-hour news cycle certainly makes a difference when assessing the coverage of the passing of a significant musician. Had John Lennon or Freddie Mercury died during this era, the coverage would still be going full force. Heck, the Michael Jackson coverage was pretty relentless for a while and that was only 10 years ago. It's impossible to say if the coverage and sentiment of Neil's passing has equaled that of Bowie or Prince, recent deaths that were massive big deals, but it's pretty close, and I am still surprised at the scope. I don't think had it been Geddy or Alex that we would have seen quite this much chatter and coverage. I think many of who were longtime Neil fans somehow underestimated how big and far-reaching his impact and popularity was, hard as that is to imagine. A few co-workers commented at how it blew all of their FB pages up and how they didn't know that so many friends were fans of Rush and/or Neil Peart.
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I've got to say, I saw many people post about Neil that I didn't expect to.
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From Rush's official Twitter:
Our most heartfelt thanks go out to family, friends, musicians, writers and fans from around the globe for the incredible outpouring of love and respect for Neil since his passing. These touching tributes help to lessen the pain of this terrible loss and remind us all to celebrate his remarkable life and our connections to it. - Geddy & Alex
:hat :hat
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That's a wonderful statement. :)
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Yeah, that's great to hear from them.
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So I think there's literally a million clips on youtube of Neil...but I was watching this show, Vapor Trails tour from Atlanta, and Neil's playing on Ceiling Unlimited is amazing, especially the intro. I am actually a big fan of the Vapor Trails album, but not of this song. Well, this live version and Neil's playing convinced me otherwise.
https://youtu.be/s9ASan4kop4?t=722
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I like Ceiling Unlimited, but it feels like one of those songs that would have been better served with a lighter touch, not the aggressive one that almost all of the VT songs have. There's a really good melody in there, but it kind of gets lost in the aggression.
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I like Ceiling Unlimited, but it feels like one of those songs that would have been better served with a lighter touch, not the aggressive one that almost all of the VT songs have. There's a really good melody in there, but it kind of gets lost in the aggression.
Should be no surprise that I feel the complete opposite.. :lol
This live version is quite powerful and gives it a life that the studio version just doesn't have.
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Thank you for your post TV, I’m sorry I just dropped my post right after yours like that. I’m sorry for your loss and I’m glad you cherish your relationship with such a great soul like his.
Please don't apologize. There is absolutely no need to apologize for sharing your feelings. It's difficult for so many of us to process this loss because of what the music meant to so many of us. My pain is maybe different perhaps, but no more deeper than anyone else's. Thank you all for your kind words, though. It means a lot right now..
You've had to carry it longer. Perhaps not as long as some but longer than others. You know them. We don't.
Please tell Geddy and Alex that we are thinking of them. I'm hoping that Geddy's optimistic nature is going to help me get through this. It's all quite the cluster.
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I have a feeling his stance
on strangers as friends would have been
modified had he been able to hear everyone"s
heart felt comments.
I gotta believe he knew how everyone felt, that was what made him feel so uncomfortable, all the adulation, correct? But I wonder if the detachment (for lack of a better word) many of his fans felt are contributing toward the outpouring of grief. We couldn't tell him everything he has meant to us in person at meet & greets and whatnot, so we do it now through message boards, social media, etc...
Also, I lost who said it, and even what thread it was in, but someone said something like "Rush isn't my favorite band, but they are the most important in my musical development." That seems like a common theme I've been reading. How important Rush was to them, how much Rush meant to them, beyond "OMG I love their music!!!"
My wife, who knows nothing about anything when it comes to music* and doesn't follow the news at all outside of NPR in the car, said to me today "Did you hear the drummer from Rush died?" I told her I knew something about it. Just the fact that it made it to her realm of knowledge says something. I doubt she'd be aware of Charlie Watts or Ringo Starr dying.
*she knows Rush because on a road trip many years ago someone played Rush in the car for hours and she couldn't stand it.
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An radio interview with Sully Erna from Godsmack is circulating. I'm glad to hear he had become friends with Neil as Sully had asked Neil to play drums on their track Serenity which written about Ghost Rider. Neil declined, but it looks like he made a friend regardless.
This is the sad revelation:
According to Erna, he knew about Peart's battle with brain cancer "for a while," but was "asked, out of respect for Neil and the privacy he liked to live in, to just not say anything. But I knew, when they were ending the RUSH tour, that he was sick," Sully claimed. "And then I knew it, even up to a year ago or so, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't speak. And it was just becoming more and more sad to me. And then I got the call a few days ago [letting me know about his death]. And they weren't supposed to release [an official statement about it] till [Friday], they told me, so I just chose to honor that request and keep my mouth shut.
That's just a gut punch to read.
Sully should've kept his mouth shut after his death too. I think it's really disrespectful to his family and his memory to bring up that aspect of his illness. MP is starting to approach that line with his constant media appearances, but I hope people don't start using Neil's death to further their own agendas.
There are photos floating around that dispute much of his timeline of events.
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From Rush's official Twitter:
Our most heartfelt thanks go out to family, friends, musicians, writers and fans from around the globe for the incredible outpouring of love and respect for Neil since his passing. These touching tributes help to lessen the pain of this terrible loss and remind us all to celebrate his remarkable life and our connections to it. - Geddy & Alex
:hat :hat
Bastards! Had the tears thing under control for a while.
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So I think there's literally a million clips on youtube of Neil...but I was watching this show, Vapor Trails tour from Atlanta, and Neil's playing on Ceiling Unlimited is amazing, especially the intro. I am actually a big fan of the Vapor Trails album, but not of this song. Well, this live version and Neil's playing convinced me otherwise.
https://youtu.be/s9ASan4kop4?t=722
Hard to believe that was almost 18 years ago. That tour was so full of life and rebirth. Kind of like the like the album. Are you going to make me pull out Rush In Rio?
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I like Ceiling Unlimited, but it feels like one of those songs that would have been better served with a lighter touch, not the aggressive one that almost all of the VT songs have. There's a really good melody in there, but it kind of gets lost in the aggression.
Totally disagree. The aggression makes the song along with the whirlwind back and forth. Makes the album too. One of their best.
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I like Ceiling Unlimited, but it feels like one of those songs that would have been better served with a lighter touch, not the aggressive one that almost all of the VT songs have. There's a really good melody in there, but it kind of gets lost in the aggression.
Should be no surprise that I feel the complete opposite.. :lol
This live version is quite powerful and gives it a life that the studio version just doesn't have.
Studio version has life too. At least the original mix does. Remix does seem to be castrated though.
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So I think there's literally a million clips on youtube of Neil...but I was watching this show, Vapor Trails tour from Atlanta, and Neil's playing on Ceiling Unlimited is amazing, especially the intro. I am actually a big fan of the Vapor Trails album, but not of this song. Well, this live version and Neil's playing convinced me otherwise.
https://youtu.be/s9ASan4kop4?t=722
Wow, thanks for the link. That is an amazing sounding video from that tour that I didn't know about. I watched a few more songs and now I got to get a copy on dvd somehow.. :omg:
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It really is. 20 years ago, that never would have happened. While Rush was "mainstream" in the 90's, they were usually either ignored by the mainstream or bashed. For decades, the only time Rolling Stone would mention them was in a negative way. Neil never would have made their best drummers list back then, yet there we were in the 2010's with Neil being (I think) 4th on that list, and then the entire band making the cover of RS! Maybe it is the younger critics nowadays who have embraced them and the grumpy old dipshit ones are either retired or gone, but there was a huge resurgence of Rush in the last 15 years or so where it became cool to be a fan of the band (when it was allegedly uncool to be a fan of theirs in the 80's and 90's). Madison Square Garden putting his picture up like that is a testament to how huge the Neil Peart legacy now is. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
One of the reasons is that in the 80's Rush and Iron Maiden were some of high schoolers most beloved bands. Now, those high schoolers are in positions of influence, and the guy in charge of the screen there at MSG was probably listening to Rush in high school in 1984.
There were three bands that were HUGE in my high school while I was there: AC/DC, Van Halen, and Rush. Everyone else was a close or distant second, but still second. Remember covering your books in paper bags? There are more textbooks in Monroe's archives with the "AC/DC", Flying VH, and Pentagram logos etched into the real cover of the book to shake a tamborine at. I used to make mirrors and sell them (wood frame, painted glass, with the logo of a band etched into the paint, with tin foil behind it) and I made more AC/DC than all others combined. VH and Rush were the second most popular (then Ozzy).
Wait, Rush, AC/DC and VH were more popular rock bands than Zeppelin? I can't believe.
It seems there was a big overlap between VH fans (and the fans of hard rock in general) and Rush fans. No one cared for prog rock tag. Rush achieved a mass appeal then.
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So I think there's literally a million clips on youtube of Neil...but I was watching this show, Vapor Trails tour from Atlanta, and Neil's playing on Ceiling Unlimited is amazing, especially the intro. I am actually a big fan of the Vapor Trails album, but not of this song. Well, this live version and Neil's playing convinced me otherwise.
https://youtu.be/s9ASan4kop4?t=722
Wow, thanks for the link. That is an amazing sounding video from that tour that I didn't know about.
From the person that released the audio that was used:
This matrix comprises of an audience DAT master with a mono In-house SBD feed. Geddy\'s bass really sounds nice with an extra pop in his strings, thanks to the SBD source. The AUD recording fills out the bottom end with great emphasis and provides the overall fill in the mid-bass and the lower highend range. I decided on a final mix value of about 60/40...AUD/SBD. This mix yielded the presence of the SBD while retaining the ambiance of the AUD source.
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All the live versions of the VT stuff is so much better than the studio versions. And it's not just the clipping in the original that makes it annoying. There's something about the way they double tracked Geddy's vocals on that album that really give it this shrill "nails on a chalkboard" sound. And I know outsiders have said that about Geddy in the 70s, but it never bothered me on the older albums. But I definitely hear it VT. Ceiling Unlimited is a perfect example. It's such a great song, but to my ears, the double tracked vocals kill it. The live versions are so much better.
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All the live versions of the VT stuff is so much better than the studio versions. And it's not just the clipping in the original that makes it annoying. There's something about the way they double tracked Geddy's vocals on that album that really give it this shrill "nails on a chalkboard" sound. And I know outsiders have said that about Geddy in the 70s, but it never bothered me on the older albums. But I definitely hear it VT. Ceiling Unlimited is a perfect example. It's such a great song, but to my ears, the double tracked vocals kill it. The live versions are so much better.
I know what you mean. I listened to a bit of VT the other day, and when I turned on One Little Victory, which I rarely go for anymore, and I had trouble getting through it because of how brutal the vocal melodies are. They just sound ugly, and I can't tell if it is because of the double tracking or if they are just bad melodies. I will have to re-visit the live version. A shame, too, because the intro is so bad ass.
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It really is. 20 years ago, that never would have happened. While Rush was "mainstream" in the 90's, they were usually either ignored by the mainstream or bashed. For decades, the only time Rolling Stone would mention them was in a negative way. Neil never would have made their best drummers list back then, yet there we were in the 2010's with Neil being (I think) 4th on that list, and then the entire band making the cover of RS! Maybe it is the younger critics nowadays who have embraced them and the grumpy old dipshit ones are either retired or gone, but there was a huge resurgence of Rush in the last 15 years or so where it became cool to be a fan of the band (when it was allegedly uncool to be a fan of theirs in the 80's and 90's). Madison Square Garden putting his picture up like that is a testament to how huge the Neil Peart legacy now is. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
One of the reasons is that in the 80's Rush and Iron Maiden were some of high schoolers most beloved bands. Now, those high schoolers are in positions of influence, and the guy in charge of the screen there at MSG was probably listening to Rush in high school in 1984.
There were three bands that were HUGE in my high school while I was there: AC/DC, Van Halen, and Rush. Everyone else was a close or distant second, but still second. Remember covering your books in paper bags? There are more textbooks in Monroe's archives with the "AC/DC", Flying VH, and Pentagram logos etched into the real cover of the book to shake a tamborine at. I used to make mirrors and sell them (wood frame, painted glass, with the logo of a band etched into the paint, with tin foil behind it) and I made more AC/DC than all others combined. VH and Rush were the second most popular (then Ozzy).
Wait, Rush, AC/DC and VH were more popular rock bands than Zeppelin? I can't believe.
It seems there was a big overlap between VH fans (and the fans of hard rock in general) and Rush fans. No one cared for prog rock tag. Rush achieved a mass appeal then.
Well, I think they were referring to where things were at in like early 80s high school culture and while Led Zeppellin on the mainstream downslope in the early 80s due to Bonham's death, Rush, AC/DC, and Van Halen was achieving a mainstream peak. It wouldn't be hard-pressed to see teenagers in that time period being more into Rush, AC/DC and Van Halen than Led Zeppelin.
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I know a lot of people didn't like all the vocal layers on Vapor Trails, but I really enjoyed them. It was one of the things I liked best about the album. It was a different approach and one that I thought sounded great for that album.
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I like Ceiling Unlimited, but it feels like one of those songs that would have been better served with a lighter touch, not the aggressive one that almost all of the VT songs have. There's a really good melody in there, but it kind of gets lost in the aggression.
Totally disagree. The aggression makes the song along with the whirlwind back and forth. Makes the album too. One of their best.
100%.
This album settles for no compromise and that is why (please don't kill me) Vapor Trails is my favourite Rush album of all.
That sinister, sad and incredible restless feeling on that album is amazing. For instance, whenever Neil switches form the hi-hat to the ride cymbal during the instrumental sections: how incredible is that drive those three have on that album?? Like a perfectly working machine. You can really hear that they are a unity.
Plus, Neil's lyrics.
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Vapor Trails is a very important album. After a five year hiatus, Rush came back with a vengeance with an electrifying tour.
Neils lyrics are very personal from his road to recovery. Once I got to know and understand the lyrics, the music resonated with me on a whole new level. This album is aging very well..
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Vapor Trails is a very important album. After a five year hiatus, Rush came back with a vengeance with an electrifying tour.
Neils lyrics are very personal from his road to recovery. Once I got to know and understand the lyrics, the music resonated with me on a whole new level. This album is aging very well..
VERY important indeed. Making that album, summoning the courage to get out of his own mental hell and activate his creative juices again was such a demonstration of strength and willpower! And I love how the lyrics work as a vehicle to purge his "depression", for lack of a better word, and how through the course of the album the mood slowly changes from loneliness to hoping for better days, until they're"endlessly rocking" on the last song.
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Vapor Trails is a very important album. After a five year hiatus, Rush came back with a vengeance with an electrifying tour.
Neils lyrics are very personal from his road to recovery. Once I got to know and understand the lyrics, the music resonated with me on a whole new level. This album is aging very well..
VERY important indeed. Making that album, summoning the courage to get out of his own mental hell and activate his creative juices again was such a demonstration of strength and willpower! And I love how the lyrics work as a vehicle to purge his "depression", for lack of a better word, and how through the course of the album the mood slowly changes from loneliness to hoping for better days, until they're"endlessly rocking" on the last song.
Vapor Trails floored me when it came out. (I still remember the first time I listened to it very well.) I thought: Will he be as impactful as he once was after all that happened? Oh yes he was. In spades.
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It really is. 20 years ago, that never would have happened. While Rush was "mainstream" in the 90's, they were usually either ignored by the mainstream or bashed. For decades, the only time Rolling Stone would mention them was in a negative way. Neil never would have made their best drummers list back then, yet there we were in the 2010's with Neil being (I think) 4th on that list, and then the entire band making the cover of RS! Maybe it is the younger critics nowadays who have embraced them and the grumpy old dipshit ones are either retired or gone, but there was a huge resurgence of Rush in the last 15 years or so where it became cool to be a fan of the band (when it was allegedly uncool to be a fan of theirs in the 80's and 90's). Madison Square Garden putting his picture up like that is a testament to how huge the Neil Peart legacy now is. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
One of the reasons is that in the 80's Rush and Iron Maiden were some of high schoolers most beloved bands. Now, those high schoolers are in positions of influence, and the guy in charge of the screen there at MSG was probably listening to Rush in high school in 1984.
There were three bands that were HUGE in my high school while I was there: AC/DC, Van Halen, and Rush. Everyone else was a close or distant second, but still second. Remember covering your books in paper bags? There are more textbooks in Monroe's archives with the "AC/DC", Flying VH, and Pentagram logos etched into the real cover of the book to shake a tamborine at. I used to make mirrors and sell them (wood frame, painted glass, with the logo of a band etched into the paint, with tin foil behind it) and I made more AC/DC than all others combined. VH and Rush were the second most popular (then Ozzy).
Wait, Rush, AC/DC and VH were more popular rock bands than Zeppelin? I can't believe.
It seems there was a big overlap between VH fans (and the fans of hard rock in general) and Rush fans. No one cared for prog rock tag. Rush achieved a mass appeal then.
Well, I think they were referring to where things were at in like early 80s high school culture and while Led Zeppellin on the mainstream downslope in the early 80s due to Bonham's death, Rush, AC/DC, and Van Halen was achieving a mainstream peak. It wouldn't be hard-pressed to see teenagers in that time period being more into Rush, AC/DC and Van Halen than Led Zeppelin.
Ang, you have that right. I see that Stadler was quoted, but in junior high, which for me was 80-82, was when Back In Black, Moving Pictures, and the first few VH albums were coming out, and they were huge!
AS far as Zeppelin, I actually have no recollection of Bonham's death, but that same station played the shit out of Led Zeppelin. I knew plenty of kids that Zep was their favorite band. But AC/DC, Van Halen, and Rush were THE bands of that time.
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I remember a couple of kids in grade school always hanging out with some kids from another school who always had one of those big giant radios with a cassette deck and they always had Tom Sawyer playing. That was my intro to Rush. I am sure I saw the band at some point on MTV since Exit...Stage Left was supposedly play a lot in '82 or so, but it must not have registered with me (I was only 8!). When the circle of friends that I got into around 1990, some of whom I am still friends with, played Rush for me, I hated Geddy's voice, but still thought Tom Sawyer was great, and the classic drum section at the end of the solo section was a big reason. Even in my "Rush stinks except for this one song" phase, I thought that part was totally awesome, so much so that when I bought my first CD player near the end of 1990, Moving Pictures was one of the first 10 albums I bought on CD, although I stubbornly refused to listen to anything on it at first besides Tom Sawyer. :lol :lol Only when I saw A Show of Hands in the fall of 1991 and had my mind blown did I finally give all of Moving Pictures its proper attention. It's funny to think about now, but in 1990-1991, I was getting into so many different classic rock bands left and right that I wasn't about to waste any time with a band with a lead singer who got my nerves at the time. And to this day, if someone says they do not like Rush because they do not like Geddy's voice, even though I grew to love it, I get it.
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And to this day, if someone says they do not like Rush because they do not like Geddy's voice, even though I grew to love it, I get it.
Well said. I am pretty particular about a band's vocals. If I don't like them the odds of me liking their music is slim to none. But interestingly I have always liked how Geddy's vocals fit with the music, from the first time I heard 2112. And my initial love for Rush was their late 70s material when Geddy was at his most... um, late 70s Geddy.
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Not sure I remember a bigger global
outpouring from musicians and fans. Not
even when Bonzo died.
I can only think of Prince, at least in my short 26 year lifetime. And Michael Jackson. Prince was huge, obviously especially here in Minnesota.
It’s cool to see Neil getting such recognition and honor after his passing. Like I read somewhere: He was your favorite drummer’s favorite drummer. I still feel sad about his passing.
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And to this day, if someone says they do not like Rush because they do not like Geddy's voice, even though I grew to love it, I get it.
I can get why some people would not like Geddy's voice, but anyone who claims Geddy is a BAD vocalist is just wrong and ignorant.
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And to this day, if someone says they do not like Rush because they do not like Geddy's voice, even though I grew to love it, I get it.
I can get why some people would not like Geddy's voice, but anyone who claims Geddy is a BAD vocalist is just wrong and ignorant.
His voice wasn’t bad until Vapor Trails and Snakes & Arrows - that yodelling was awful and makes those albums unlistenable to me.
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Not sure I remember a bigger global
outpouring from musicians and fans. Not
even when Bonzo died.
I can only think of Prince, at least in my short 26 year lifetime. And Michael Jackson. Prince was huge, obviously especially here in Minnesota.
It’s cool to see Neil getting such recognition and honor after his passing. Like I read somewhere: He was your favorite drummer’s favorite drummer. I still feel sad about his passing.
Look, I'm not really a fan of this line of discussion, but I'm also not a fan of revisionist history. Even accounting for social media, and with absolutely zero disrespect for Neil, it's not really that close. When John Lennon was shot the world STOPPED. Not just "Beatles fans" or "those that were touched by his music", I mean GENERALLY, and I mean literally. It was "Walter Cronkite/John Chancellor" news. John's death was a "I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news" event independent of whether you were a Beatles fan or not. (For the record, the news was broken by Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford on Monday Night Football, with like a minute left in the game; it was almost exactly 11:00 pm and yes, I was watching that game. Patriots, though I was not a full Pats fan then.) "(Just Like) Starting Over" was the single at the time, floundering, and jumped almost immediately to number one.
A couple days later, a quarter of a million people met in Central Park, tens of thousands met in Liverpool, and there was a GLOBAL moment of silence - actually, ten minutes of silence - for his death. Every radio station in NYC went off the air simultaneously at that time and stayed off for ten minutes. Look, maybe all this will happen for Neil, and I'm sure it's warranted (even if deep down I suspect he wouldn't be a fan).
He was by all accounts an amazing man, an amazing musician, and an amazing friend. It's not disrespectful or out of line to keep his death in perspective, and keep it to the impacts it did actually have. He still left a legacy that most of us would be proud of.
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Stadler, you’re also forgetting that the folks you’re quoting are mentioning that they’re basing it off the deaths that have happened in their lifetimes. They weren’t there, so of course they can’t factor that moment in time when thinking of Neil’s death or in relation to other celebrity musicians who’ve passed in their lifetimes.
Nor can I for that matter. I’m turning 27 in a month. I can understand that John Lennon’s assassination was a far bigger deal than this, but the experience is impossible for me to fully comprehend, despite growing up on the Beatles. To me, Lennon has always been a man who died over a decade before I was born.
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^^ I concur.
To me, when I read the news or various links of history that a celebrity musician died, my reaction was mainly "that's a big shame and that that person's bandmates and their fans are going to pull together through this rough time," but I personally didn't have a big investment when I read that news. Heck, even for a guy like Chester Bennington who was in a band that helped defined a certain period of music for people in my age bracket, I didn't have too much of a personal emotional investment when reading that he passed away (even if it took place on my birthday).
Now Chris Cornell, when I woke up to the news early in the morning, I had this drowsy state of screaming "NO!" and that was the biggest passing of a musician that hit me pretty hard back then. With Neil's passing, obviously, this is the one that really got me getting hit hard when I read this thread at work at around 2:00 PM a week from last Friday. I had a silent shock and I, and probably everyone else in this thread that was working that Friday, didn't want to do anything else at work other than wanting to get the chance to listen to as much Rush as possible.
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I actually had to leave work early that day. I was a complete wreck, and I knew there wasn’t a damn thing I was going to get done the rest of the day. I have never in my lifetime felt so completely gut punched (and I’m not exaggerating or being metaphorical when I use that term...I LITERALLY felt like someone had punched me in the stomach. When I saw the news on my phone, I was on a scissor lift. I nearly dropped my phone, I doubled over in emotional pain, and I started to visibly sob uncontrollably. Someone had to stop and ask me if I had been hurt) by an artist‘s death as I did that day. And I don’t think I ever will.
Dream Theater might be very close to Rush in my “favorite band” department, but they never wrote words that defined my childhood like Neil did.
I can’t even speak out loud about this subject. I can only type to what I hope is an understanding online brotherhood. No one else IRL gets it, and I would just end up blubbering like a baby in front of people who have no idea what’s going on.
Test...for...echo....
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I didn't know Neil personally, but I know a lot about him without knowing him (if that makes any sense). After reading his books and lyrics, it gave good insight to what kind of person he really was. Very intelligent with a heart of gold, and a sense of adventure taking note of every detail along the way. Also just wanting to blend in and be an ordinary guy.
Another artists passing that hit me close to home like this was Brad Delp.
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I'm currently watching Anatomy of a Drum Solo on YouTube. Not something I'd necessarily check out under other circumstances, but I'm glad I'm doing it now. What a gem! Interesting, inspiring stuff.
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Stadler, you’re also forgetting that the folks you’re quoting are mentioning that they’re basing it off the deaths that have happened in their lifetimes. They weren’t there, so of course they can’t factor that moment in time when thinking of Neil’s death or in relation to other celebrity musicians who’ve passed in their lifetimes.
Nor can I for that matter. I’m turning 27 in a month. I can understand that John Lennon’s assassination was a far bigger deal than this, but the experience is impossible for me to fully comprehend, despite growing up on the Beatles. To me, Lennon has always been a man who died over a decade before I was born.
Ok, fair enough; I'm sorry, I don't think of history in terms of "my lifetime". I was born in '67, but Kennedy's assassination - and the Beatles in '64 - was SO much part of my early existence - I think there's a fair argument that it was a variable IN my existence - that I think that's a sort of arbitrary limit. That may be just me and the time I was born.
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I actually had to leave work early that day. I was a complete wreck, and I knew there wasn’t a damn thing I was going to get done the rest of the day. I have never in my lifetime felt so completely gut punched (and I’m not exaggerating or being metaphorical when I use that term...I LITERALLY felt like someone had punched me in the stomach. When I saw the news on my phone, I was on a scissor lift. I nearly dropped my phone, I doubled over in emotional pain, and I started to visibly sob uncontrollably. Someone had to stop and ask me if I had been hurt) by an artist‘s death as I did that day. And I don’t think I ever will.
Dream Theater might be very close to Rush in my “favorite band” department, but they never wrote words that defined my childhood like Neil did.
I can’t even speak out loud about this subject. I can only type to what I hope is an understanding online brotherhood. No one else IRL gets it, and I would just end up blubbering like a baby in front of people who have no idea what’s going on.
Test...for...echo....
Damn.
I was at work and it was our usual Friday afternoon deal where we were all caught up and waiting for the clock to wind down to quitting time. I was standing at my desk, talking and laughing, and out of the corner of my eye, I saw that I had a new message on my phone, so I quickly glanced and it was from my brother and simply said: Neil Peart died. I picked up my phone and collapsed into my chair and muttered, "Oh, fuck," to myself and sat there in a daze for a few seconds before quickly going to google to see if there were any news story confirming it and unfortunately there were. It was maybe a half hour later when a co-worked walked by and said, "Hey, did you see about Rush's drummer?" Without even looking up, I was like, "I don't want to talk about it." I never get affected by the death of someone I didn't actually know, but this one stung.
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Thank you Kev. That was it. I totally get it. It's been over a week now, and I still have a tough time actually talking about it. Because it's like no one you talk to is going to get it.
It's like if someone who is very indifferent to pets in general, and has no understanding of how anyone can be so attached to an animal, and then someone they know has a favorite dog that they've had since they were a kid die on them. They can try to be sympathetic, but it comes across like those awkward moments on Big Bang Theory (yes, I know almost everyone here hates that show) when Sheldon is trying to comfort someone when he hates touching people. Everyone I try to talk to just creates that awkward moment because no one gets it. I guess that's why I've been posting more here the last week or so.
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Okay, well, looks like Donna Halper is firing back at Sully. Have to admit, I would trust Donna over Sully in matters regarding Rush.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-peart-donna-halper/
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It's like if someone who is very indifferent to pets in general, and has no understanding of how anyone can be so attached to an animal, and then someone they know has a favorite dog that they've had since they were a kid die on them.
So true! My dog suddenly passed away early September at an young age and I'm still struggling with it daily and nobody else even askes about it anymore. First my dog, and now NEIL! Nobody gets it, and I really don't expect them too.
Like Neil said in Turn the Page, " we've all got problems of our own", or "you can't soothe pain with sympathy".
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Okay, well, looks like Donna Halper is firing back at Sully. Have to admit, I would trust Donna over Sully in matters regarding Rush.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-peart-donna-halper/
Not surprised. Sully is a flaming douchebag.
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Thank you Kev. That was it. I totally get it. It's been over a week now, and I still have a tough time actually talking about it. Because it's like no one you talk to is going to get it.
I have no problem talking about it now (I was like that within a short time after the initial shock of the news), but I get why it is tough for others. I know some are having a hard time listening to Rush now, but I have listened to almost nothing but Rush for the last week and a half, and I view it as a celebration of Neil's work and Rush in general.
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Okay, well, looks like Donna Halper is firing back at Sully. Have to admit, I would trust Donna over Sully in matters regarding Rush.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-peart-donna-halper/
Not a question for you, Professor, but a general one for the group: how is what she's saying any different? Other than her bot outright confirming "I knew he was sick for a while now" as if it was a badge of courage, isn't she just a slightly more knowledgeable - maybe - "she said" in the larger "he said/she said"? What, fundamentally, is different between "I've been friends with them for 40 years and take that friendship seriously" (not a direct quote, but a paraphrase of a general idea across several similarly themed tweets) and "Yeah, I knew for about a year before, and was sworn to secrecy", ala Mike (who has, it seems, taken some implied criticism for his public statements)?
I haven't followed all the tweets (they all should be ashamed for conducting this conversation - accurate or not - over tweets) but she didn't actually refute Sully specifically, she just said "but it ended the way he wanted". Okay, fair enough. But what was inaccurate?
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The wheelchair was not addressed. But Sully said he couldn't speak and Halper pretty much confirmed that that was not true.
Also, I seem to remember Sully's words hinting that NP had been in a wheelchair for a year, and I believe (while not addressing the wheelchair specifically) that Halper seemed to indicate that his final year was not as shriveled and pathetic as Sully's words would have people believe.
It basically sounds like Sully both exaggerated the situation, AND showed poor taste and he's being called out on both counts.
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Sully said that Neil couldn't speak for something like a year leading up to his death. Donna says he was able to speak all the way up to his death.
That is the biggest thing.
Sully:
"And then I knew it, even up to a year ago or so, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't speak."
Donna:
“I don't know whether he had the energy to keep a journal. But I do know that claims he couldn't speak are not accurate."
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Stadler, between challenging this, telling everyone that Alex's solos aren't as iconic as some Rush fans think, and posting that John Lennon's death is a much bigger deal than this (which everyone knows and never said otherwise), you are picking very strange hills to "die on" lately. Good grief.
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Sully said that Neil couldn't speak for something like a year leading up to his death. Donna says he was able to speak all the way up to his death.
That is the biggest thing.
Sully:
"And then I knew it, even up to a year ago or so, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't speak."
Donna:
“I don't know whether he had the energy to keep a journal. But I do know that claims he couldn't speak are not accurate."
There's also Sully's demonstrably false statement that NP knew he had the brain cancer by the time of their last show. Seems like Sully was just interested in painting a maudlin picture (for whatever his agenda here is), accuracy/dignity/respect be damned.
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Stadler, between challenging this, telling everyone that Alex's solos aren't as iconic as some Rush fans think, and posting that John Lennon's death is a much bigger deal than this (which everyone knows and never said otherwise), you are picking very strange hills to "die on" lately. Good grief.
Sorry; if "grief" suspends reality for you, you don't have to read what I say. Funny, though, that Halper confesses to wanting to live in the truth, and she's a hero, I do the same and "good grief".
And feel free to ignore the bigger parts of all of those posts: one, DIDN'T challenge Halper but in fact asked the group their thoughts on whether it was different (I was not aware that Sully said he couldn't speak, so I take responsibility for that); two, actually put forth Alex AS being iconic, and tried to explain why he might not have received his due so far, so in fact was celebrating him; and three, made it very clear that my respect for Neil was almost boundless, but felt compelled to make sure that we're not distorting history re: Lennon.
I have a deep respect for Rush on many, many levels, individually and as a group, and at the bare minimum I pray that I can meet the end of my life with the class, dignity, discipline and clear thinking that Neil did (not to mention that I hope I've garnered the level of respect and admiration that he did that so many people kept their big mouths shut for THREE YEARS. Think about that). I've written too many times here about the admiration I have for him (anyone familiar with me citing that S&A doc?)
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Stads, I think debates should be put on hold for a bit while people mourn. This is fans gushing, reminiscing and it spills to Geddy & Alex. There's a lot of love for Neil the Drummer but also Neil the person.
We can have debates later. Now is a time to grieve and celebrate Neil and his music and words.
"Learning that we're only immortal
For a limited time."
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Pretty certain we don't have the capability to distort history :)
The entire point of my post--which created this entire sidebar discussion--was largely missed.
That is, it's a strange irony, knowing Neil's belief on not drawing near to strangers as if they were friends.
And then after he died, thousands of those very people, felt as though they had lost a brother or a
neighbor due to the impact his artistry had on them.
Yes the world stopped when Lennon died. In no way does that decrease the import of the impact
Neil had on so many of us.
Continue debating....
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I actually had to leave work early that day. I was a complete wreck, and I knew there wasn’t a damn thing I was going to get done the rest of the day. I have never in my lifetime felt so completely gut punched (and I’m not exaggerating or being metaphorical when I use that term...I LITERALLY felt like someone had punched me in the stomach. When I saw the news on my phone, I was on a scissor lift. I nearly dropped my phone, I doubled over in emotional pain, and I started to visibly sob uncontrollably. Someone had to stop and ask me if I had been hurt) by an artist‘s death as I did that day. And I don’t think I ever will.
Dream Theater might be very close to Rush in my “favorite band” department, but they never wrote words that defined my childhood like Neil did.
I can’t even speak out loud about this subject. I can only type to what I hope is an understanding online brotherhood. No one else IRL gets it, and I would just end up blubbering like a baby in front of people who have no idea what’s going on.
Test...for...echo....
Yeah... I've kind of felt alone with how I feel about this too. I think there are people in my life who kind of get it, but kind of don't. Who probably would think something was wrong with me if I tried to talk about it as much as I've been thinking about it, if that makes any sense. Reading these posts here have helped. I haven't posted a lot myself, but I've read every word, and it's been a comfort, so thanks so much to those who've been sharing.
I had the day off and had things that I was trying to get done, I was working on something on my PC when I heard my phone vibrate a bunch of times. I ignored it for a while, and when I checked I had some text messages with links to articles all saying the same thing. I don't know how long my brain took to figure it out; I did some searches of my own and then saw Rush themselves had posted it and I think that's when I lost it. I spent hours just reading stuff online and crying.
I'm glad for his sake and his family's that word never got out, that he was able to remain private about it, and that his family and friends had a few days to grieve to themselves before sharing the news with the public.
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I actually had to leave work early that day. I was a complete wreck, and I knew there wasn’t a damn thing I was going to get done the rest of the day. I have never in my lifetime felt so completely gut punched (and I’m not exaggerating or being metaphorical when I use that term...I LITERALLY felt like someone had punched me in the stomach. When I saw the news on my phone, I was on a scissor lift. I nearly dropped my phone, I doubled over in emotional pain, and I started to visibly sob uncontrollably. Someone had to stop and ask me if I had been hurt) by an artist‘s death as I did that day. And I don’t think I ever will.
Dream Theater might be very close to Rush in my “favorite band” department, but they never wrote words that defined my childhood like Neil did.
I can’t even speak out loud about this subject. I can only type to what I hope is an understanding online brotherhood. No one else IRL gets it, and I would just end up blubbering like a baby in front of people who have no idea what’s going on.
Test...for...echo....
Damn.
I was at work and it was our usual Friday afternoon deal where we were all caught up and waiting for the clock to wind down to quitting time. I was standing at my desk, talking and laughing, and out of the corner of my eye, I saw that I had a new message on my phone, so I quickly glanced and it was from my brother and simply said: Neil Peart died. I picked up my phone and collapsed into my chair and muttered, "Oh, fuck," to myself and sat there in a daze for a few seconds before quickly going to google to see if there were any news story confirming it and unfortunately there were. It was maybe a half hour later when a co-worked walked by and said, "Hey, did you see about Rush's drummer?" Without even looking up, I was like, "I don't want to talk about it." I never get affected by the death of someone I didn't actually know, but this one stung.
I got a message from my brother too. Not that he was a major Rush fan but he knew that I am. Like you, I quickly went on the internet to confirm it. It felt like I was the last one to find out about it since he had died 3 days earlier. Turns out that it wasn't officially announced until Friday 1/10. I've never been affected by a musician's death as much as this. Still can't believe it.
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Stads, I think debates should be put on hold for a bit while people mourn. This is fans gushing, reminiscing and it spills to Geddy & Alex. There's a lot of love for Neil the Drummer but also Neil the person.
We can have debates later. Now is a time to grieve and celebrate Neil and his music and words.
"Learning that we're only immortal
For a limited time."
Well said, Joe. :tup :tup
I got a message from my brother too. Not that he was a major Rush fan but he knew that I am. Like you, I quickly went on the internet to confirm it. It felt like I was the last one to find out about it since he had died 3 days earlier. Turns out that it wasn't officially announced until Friday 1/10. I've never been affected by a musician's death as much as this. Still can't believe it.
I hear ya. I knew that 2015 was the end of Rush, and I was even a little bummed driving home the night I saw them on the final tour because in my head I thought, "I will never see them again," but then there is always that little part of you that thinks, "Well, there is always a chance that they could do something again." Even for someone like me who knew they went out at the right time and didn't want them to taint their perfect ending by doing something else, the idea of Rush doing anything else was always an exciting proposition regardless, and now that chance now sits at 0%. And I think that is the sad realization that many have come to in the last week and a half. Not just the loss of life of one of our favorite drummers, musicians and lyricists, but the permanent loss of the band.
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It was Friday night that I got the news and it took my girlfriend half an hour to help me get through the emotions. I immediately started quoting the lyrics to her. Then I had the entire weekend to sort myself out, and what especially got me through was the rehearsal I had with my band. The Rush fans in the band were also bummed and we tried to jam over YYZ a bit.
By Monday, I had already shared some words on Facebook, so people in the office asked me about Neil and who he was, so I spent a lot of time explaining to people what happened. Another buddy of mine at work helped me along, he immediately noticed I put on a Rush shirt and gave me a big hug. We talked about The Analog kid, Neil's interviews and all kinds of Rush related things.
The week continued with me spinning Vapor trails, Hold your fire, Snakes and arrows. It was a strange couple of days.
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Neil's speech being inducted into the Canadian Songwriters HOF.
https://youtu.be/eJMqYGOF_iw?t=457
(he looks a little like Joe Sakic)
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Neil's speech being inducted into the Canadian Songwriters HOF.
https://youtu.be/eJMqYGOF_iw?t=457
(he looks a little like Joe Sakic)
I've never heard that speech before, thanks for the link! Neil is quite an eloquent public speaker for being the "shy guy" of the band. Even his French is good.
I laughed out loud regarding Alex's remote control plane experiences. :rollin
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It was Friday night that I got the news and it took my girlfriend half an hour to help me get through the emotions. I immediately started quoting the lyrics to her. Then I had the entire weekend to sort myself out, and what especially got me through was the rehearsal I had with my band. The Rush fans in the band were also bummed and we tried to jam over YYZ a bit.
By Monday, I had already shared some words on Facebook, so people in the office asked me about Neil and who he was, so I spent a lot of time explaining to people what happened. Another buddy of mine at work helped me along, he immediately noticed I put on a Rush shirt and gave me a big hug. We talked about The Analog kid, Neil's interviews and all kinds of Rush related things.
The week continued with me spinning Vapor trails, Hold your fire, Snakes and arrows. It was a strange couple of days.
:hat :hat
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Neil's speech being inducted into the Canadian Songwriters HOF.
https://youtu.be/eJMqYGOF_iw?t=457
(he looks a little like Joe Sakic)
I watched that video a few days ago and I was completely blown away by that speech. WHO does something like that??? What an awesome dude Neil was...
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Neil's speech being inducted into the Canadian Songwriters HOF.
https://youtu.be/eJMqYGOF_iw?t=457
(he looks a little like Joe Sakic)
I watched that video a few days ago and I was completely blown away by that speech. WHO does something like that??? What an awesome dude Neil was...
Not a single "umm" or "like" to be heard.
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How many times do you think each of them said "Sorry!" as they moved through their aisle on the walk to the stage? (Just a little loving Canadian humor).
Alex looked so cute - like he was 12 - when Neil talked of the "airplane parts" still being found.
I liked the French interludes.
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Stads, I think debates should be put on hold for a bit while people mourn. This is fans gushing, reminiscing and it spills to Geddy & Alex. There's a lot of love for Neil the Drummer but also Neil the person.
We can have debates later. Now is a time to grieve and celebrate Neil and his music and words.
"Learning that we're only immortal
For a limited time."
Well said, Joe. :tup :tup
I got a message from my brother too. Not that he was a major Rush fan but he knew that I am. Like you, I quickly went on the internet to confirm it. It felt like I was the last one to find out about it since he had died 3 days earlier. Turns out that it wasn't officially announced until Friday 1/10. I've never been affected by a musician's death as much as this. Still can't believe it.
I hear ya. I knew that 2015 was the end of Rush, and I was even a little bummed driving home the night I saw them on the final tour because in my head I thought, "I will never see them again," but then there is always that little part of you that thinks, "Well, there is always a chance that they could do something again." Even for someone like me who knew they went out at the right time and didn't want them to taint their perfect ending by doing something else, the idea of Rush doing anything else was always an exciting proposition regardless, and now that chance now sits at 0%. And I think that is the sad realization that many have come to in the last week and a half. Not just the loss of life of one of our favorite drummers, musicians and lyricists, but the permanent loss of the band.
Yeah, you nailed it right there. It makes me think of what Geddy said in Beyond the Lighted Stage. "I don't wanna be in Rush without those other two guys." It almost ended 20 years ago. :omg: Even though I'm still trying to get my head around this, I can't help but be grateful for such an amazing run. They really did go above and beyond what anyone expected and gave it everything they had. I'm a such a proud fan. :)
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Curious what everyone thinks of this -- particularly Stu Hamm's performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP1-ytORy0M
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Yeah, sounds like a last minute thing where he improvised a lot.
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Yeah, you nailed it right there. It makes me think of what Geddy said in Beyond the Lighted Stage. "I don't wanna be in Rush without those other two guys." It almost ended 20 years ago. :omg: Even though I'm still trying to get my head around this, I can't help but be grateful for such an amazing run. They really did go above and beyond what anyone expected and gave it everything they had. I'm a such a proud fan. :)
:metal :metal
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Here's Geddy just 13 months ago..
https://youtu.be/sWVs5iSYTdM?t=86
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It's so ironic that the one band that didn't do a big farewell tour is the one that is going to stay retired.
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It's so ironic that the one band that didn't do a big farewell tour is the one that is going to stay retired.
Because they’re humble.
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Here's Geddy just 13 months ago..
https://youtu.be/sWVs5iSYTdM?t=86
The little jab at KISS® is great.
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Here's Geddy just 13 months ago..
https://youtu.be/sWVs5iSYTdM?t=86
The little jab at KISS® is great.
:rollin
Again, just so thankful I had the opportunity to witness their greatness live 3x. I wish it was more, but their legacy as RUSH is forever cemented. And the words and music will live forever.
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Curious what everyone thinks of this -- particularly Stu Hamm's performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP1-ytORy0M
Yeah, sounds like a last minute thing where he improvised a lot.
I think this might have gotten lost on the page break.
I don't know how last minute it was (its not like there's a platoon of steel drum players floating around NAMM), but yeah. Obviously not something rehearsed. I'm not a Stu Hamm fan at all, but I also don't have any problem with him. I asked about this because someone on FB got completely butthurt about Stu Hamm being a "self-indulgent wanker" and how, "if you're going to do Rush, you HAVE TO nail it." He even went so far as to suggest that Hamm should have taken some time to learn the song and Geddy's solo breaks because (I kid you not) that's how he does it in his Rush tribute band. It was very odd.
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I think some people have taken their "ownership" of Rush a little too seriously in the wake of Neil's passing. Only natural. I think every tribute, no matter how small, or how accurate, is noteworthy. And while I never knew the man, I think Neil, while he'd be embarrassed at the attention, would appreciate the gestures.
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It's so ironic that the one band that didn't do a big farewell tour is the one that is going to stay retired.
Because they’re humble.
They did a humble anniversary tour that I love how they set it up. Going from now to the beginning is a way to retire.
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I was channel surfing and turned on the Goldbergs, a show I have not seen before. One of the characters had on a Rush ‘Moving Pictures’ tour shirt. Just saw another Rush shirt and tattoo on the show Schooled.
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I'm reading these threads, and I'm finding it hard understanding why people are being ridiculed for saying that they may have known what was going on. Neil obviously knew a lot of people. It's hard to keep a sickness of that magnitude from anyone for very long. I think for most of us who knew, sharing that is our way of saying that from the moment we've all known, and out of respect for Neil and the family decided we could keep it a secret, was an incredibly painful experience for all of us. I knew he was sick for some time, and I could connect the dots, but didn't know until a few months back just how sick. It's been gut wrenching keeping that dreadful secret. As I said in my first post, when the public was informed, the outpouring of grief and shock was like a tidal wave. It's been palpable. For us who knew him, that is so incredible because it speaks to the level of love and respect we all knew he so richly deserved.
Both Alex and Ged have been so overwhelmed and lifted up by the outpouring of support.
There are things I know that I will keep to myself out of respect. But everybody's relationship and experiences are different. Sharing some things helps, and everyone grieves differently. Personally, I don't feel sharing private things publicly is the right way to go. But, like I said, everyone is different.
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T-Vox, I don't think anyone has a problem with close friends saying they knew. I think Sully Erna got some brushback because of so called details of Neil's condition were shared. I think that's what people had a problem with.
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T-Vox, I don't think anyone has a problem with close friends saying they knew. I think Sully Erna got some brushback because of so called details of Neil's condition were shared. I think that's what people had a problem with.
I get that. Like I said, I wouldn't share details on anything. Just wanted to clarify I don't think anyone is sharing anything out of trying to get cred for anything or being, "in the know".
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Yeah, you never know. Personally, I have never thought that.
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So I was texting with my brother over the weekend, and the subject of Neil Peart came up. When I went to type Peart the first time, it autocorrected to Pratt. True story!
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Auto-correct knows what's up.
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Auto correct is the main reason I hate texting. I'm always backspacing. >:(
Anywho, sorry you had to go through all that Vox, but at the same time, your level of discretion is very admirable. :tup
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Lost In Vegas honoring Neil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdQ39ttPRFo
EDIT: Fucking awesome!
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You know when I watched that video and see that they are going to look at one of Neil's live drum solo, my first reaction is "I hope they would be amazed on how loaded that drum set is," and they were.
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Stadler, you’re also forgetting that the folks you’re quoting are mentioning that they’re basing it off the deaths that have happened in their lifetimes. They weren’t there, so of course they can’t factor that moment in time when thinking of Neil’s death or in relation to other celebrity musicians who’ve passed in their lifetimes.
Nor can I for that matter. I’m turning 27 in a month. I can understand that John Lennon’s assassination was a far bigger deal than this, but the experience is impossible for me to fully comprehend, despite growing up on the Beatles. To me, Lennon has always been a man who died over a decade before I was born.
Ok, fair enough; I'm sorry, I don't think of history in terms of "my lifetime". I was born in '67, but Kennedy's assassination - and the Beatles in '64 - was SO much part of my early existence - I think there's a fair argument that it was a variable IN my existence - that I think that's a sort of arbitrary limit. That may be just me and the time I was born.
Context is very important on many different levels in terms of the time period in which each event occurred.
Lennon and the Beatles were MASSIVE cultural icons. Neil and Rush are a lot further down on that list. What surprises me is that cross-section of outpouring is totally unexpected especially given the lack of publicity footprint. The influence and effect was never translated into headlines.
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Okay, well, looks like Donna Halper is firing back at Sully. Have to admit, I would trust Donna over Sully in matters regarding Rush.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-peart-donna-halper/
Seemed obvious from the start to be honest.
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I hear ya. I knew that 2015 was the end of Rush, and I was even a little bummed driving home the night I saw them on the final tour because in my head I thought, "I will never see them again," but then there is always that little part of you that thinks, "Well, there is always a chance that they could do something again." Even for someone like me who knew they went out at the right time and didn't want them to taint their perfect ending by doing something else, the idea of Rush doing anything else was always an exciting proposition regardless, and now that chance now sits at 0%. And I think that is the sad realization that many have come to in the last week and a half. Not just the loss of life of one of our favorite drummers, musicians and lyricists, but the permanent loss of the band.
Yeah, you nailed it right there. It makes me think of what Geddy said in Beyond the Lighted Stage. "I don't wanna be in Rush without those other two guys." It almost ended 20 years ago. :omg: Even though I'm still trying to get my head around this, I can't help but be grateful for such an amazing run. They really did go above and beyond what anyone expected and gave it everything they had. I'm a such a proud fan. :)
+1 to all that. To have Rush come back and create 3 great albums and do so many great shows is something we were all lucky to have. I was very sad when they finally did retire, so to speak, but that was OK. This time around they got to end their career more or less on their terms (though I recognized some of them would have liked to keep going). I wished them the best and looked forward to maybe another book from Neil if he was so inclined, and hoped he was having a great retirement. To then learn that it was cut so short is just so heartbreaking. He certainly did seem to make the most of the time he had on this earth though.
Lost In Vegas honoring Neil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdQ39ttPRFo
EDIT: Fucking awesome!
Yeah. I'm not really into reaction videos, but at the moment I'm interested in stuff like that honoring Neil, and they had some very nice words about him.
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Neil's speech being inducted into the Canadian Songwriters HOF.
https://youtu.be/eJMqYGOF_iw?t=457
(he looks a little like Joe Sakic)
An oldie, but a goodie. Always considered this to be more important than the Rock Hall induction. (Although that is still as amazing to watch too.)
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Curious what everyone thinks of this -- particularly Stu Hamm's performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP1-ytORy0M
Love Stu Hamm's performance (Love Stu Hamm) but the rest of it was kind of rough.
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Both Alex and Ged have been so overwhelmed and lifted up by the outpouring of support.
There are things I know that I will keep to myself out of respect. But everybody's relationship and experiences are different. Sharing some things helps, and everyone grieves differently. Personally, I don't feel sharing private things publicly is the right way to go. But, like I said, everyone is different.
That is great to hear. Geddy always seems to be the eternal optimist so I'm hoping he and Alex will get through this. It's crazy, but it helps to know they helped by the support.
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Both Alex and Ged have been so overwhelmed and lifted up by the outpouring of support.
There are things I know that I will keep to myself out of respect. But everybody's relationship and experiences are different. Sharing some things helps, and everyone grieves differently. Personally, I don't feel sharing private things publicly is the right way to go. But, like I said, everyone is different.
That is great to hear. Geddy always seems to be the eternal optimist so I'm hoping he and Alex will get through this. It's crazy, but it helps to know they helped by the support.
The one thing that always separated Rush from pretty much every other band I know of is that they were a family (and sometimes moreso than bands that included actual family members). They seemed to genuinely like each other and, if there was ever any animosity between them, it was never made public. I think with a lot of bands, some of the stuff from Beyond the Lighted Stage might have come off as hokey or staged, but it really felt so genuine, and I think what's hard for a lot of us is knowing that, not only did Neil leave behind his actual family, his brothers are also suffering with the loss.
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Both Alex and Ged have been so overwhelmed and lifted up by the outpouring of support.
There are things I know that I will keep to myself out of respect. But everybody's relationship and experiences are different. Sharing some things helps, and everyone grieves differently. Personally, I don't feel sharing private things publicly is the right way to go. But, like I said, everyone is different.
That is great to hear. Geddy always seems to be the eternal optimist so I'm hoping he and Alex will get through this. It's crazy, but it helps to know they helped by the support.
The one thing that always separated Rush from pretty much every other band I know of is that they were a family (and sometimes moreso than bands that included actual family members). They seemed to genuinely like each other and, if there was ever any animosity between them, it was never made public. I think with a lot of bands, some of the stuff from Beyond the Lighted Stage might have come off as hokey or staged, but it really felt so genuine, and I think what's hard for a lot of us is knowing that, not only did Neil leave behind his actual family, his brothers are also suffering with the loss.
I would guess that we easily could have recognised if the documentary were staged, wouldn't we? (I'm relieved it was realistic though of course)
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Both Alex and Ged have been so overwhelmed and lifted up by the outpouring of support.
There are things I know that I will keep to myself out of respect. But everybody's relationship and experiences are different. Sharing some things helps, and everyone grieves differently. Personally, I don't feel sharing private things publicly is the right way to go. But, like I said, everyone is different.
That is great to hear. Geddy always seems to be the eternal optimist so I'm hoping he and Alex will get through this. It's crazy, but it helps to know they helped by the support.
The one thing that always separated Rush from pretty much every other band I know of is that they were a family (and sometimes moreso than bands that included actual family members). They seemed to genuinely like each other and, if there was ever any animosity between them, it was never made public. I think with a lot of bands, some of the stuff from Beyond the Lighted Stage might have come off as hokey or staged, but it really felt so genuine, and I think what's hard for a lot of us is knowing that, not only did Neil leave behind his actual family, his brothers are also suffering with the loss.
I would guess that we easily could have recognised if the documentary were staged, wouldn't we? (I'm relieved it was realistic though of course)
Let me say it slightly differently. It was "staged" in that the camera was there, but you got the sense that nothing would have been different if it hadn't.
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Both Alex and Ged have been so overwhelmed and lifted up by the outpouring of support.
There are things I know that I will keep to myself out of respect. But everybody's relationship and experiences are different. Sharing some things helps, and everyone grieves differently. Personally, I don't feel sharing private things publicly is the right way to go. But, like I said, everyone is different.
That is great to hear. Geddy always seems to be the eternal optimist so I'm hoping he and Alex will get through this. It's crazy, but it helps to know they helped by the support.
The one thing that always separated Rush from pretty much every other band I know of is that they were a family (and sometimes moreso than bands that included actual family members). They seemed to genuinely like each other and, if there was ever any animosity between them, it was never made public. I think with a lot of bands, some of the stuff from Beyond the Lighted Stage might have come off as hokey or staged, but it really felt so genuine, and I think what's hard for a lot of us is knowing that, not only did Neil leave behind his actual family, his brothers are also suffering with the loss.
I would guess that we easily could have recognised if the documentary were staged, wouldn't we? (I'm relieved it was realistic though of course)
Let me say it slightly differently. It was "staged" in that the camera was there, but you got the sense that nothing would have been different if it hadn't.
Ah right ok. Very true yes. I'd add that whoever had gone on to do the research for it was exacting and thorough IMHO. In my experience with documentaries, that degree of it all seems to be a rare occurance.
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Stadler, you’re also forgetting that the folks you’re quoting are mentioning that they’re basing it off the deaths that have happened in their lifetimes. They weren’t there, so of course they can’t factor that moment in time when thinking of Neil’s death or in relation to other celebrity musicians who’ve passed in their lifetimes.
Nor can I for that matter. I’m turning 27 in a month. I can understand that John Lennon’s assassination was a far bigger deal than this, but the experience is impossible for me to fully comprehend, despite growing up on the Beatles. To me, Lennon has always been a man who died over a decade before I was born.
Ok, fair enough; I'm sorry, I don't think of history in terms of "my lifetime". I was born in '67, but Kennedy's assassination - and the Beatles in '64 - was SO much part of my early existence - I think there's a fair argument that it was a variable IN my existence - that I think that's a sort of arbitrary limit. That may be just me and the time I was born.
Context is very important on many different levels in terms of the time period in which each event occurred.
Lennon and the Beatles were MASSIVE cultural icons. Neil and Rush are a lot further down on that list. What surprises me is that cross-section of outpouring is totally unexpected especially given the lack of publicity footprint. The influence and effect was never translated into headlines.
Well, there's no disagreement from that perspective that the outpouring was phenomenal and amazing. But I'll leave it at that.
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I'd fired up the Time Stand Still DVD over the Christmas break - for some reason, I'd never watched it. I only got 1/2 way thru before the news of Neil's death broke. I just went back to finishing it this morning. Man that was rough. :'( Hearing everyone - fans, crew, band alike - reference the tour and LA show specifically as 'might' be their last tour/show ever, and now knowing that indeed is the case .... it all hit me right in the feels. Same with the credits rolling to The Garden.
Not fun crying and huffing and puffing while I'm on my stationary bike.
On a brighter note, I can't wait to put on The Rabbit Hole bootleg next time I'm working out alone.
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Been really interesting reading this thread over the last few weeks, a lot of you guys were way more into Rush than I've been and clearly he had a huge impact on everyone, both with his lyrics and his playing. I was always familiar with the hits from Moving Pictures, and I owned 2112 because I'm pretty sure it's required by law if you love prog rock epics. I picked up Clockwork Angels and Permanent Waves at some point along the way and then pulled the trigger at the very last minute (I'm talking like an hour before the show started) on a ticket to see the Madison Square Garden show on their final tour. I had heard the whispers that this was probably their last tour and felt like it was a bucket list item for any prog fan. I ended up in the 14th row and saw an absolute killer show. I picked up the A Farewell to Kings 40th anniversary release not too long ago, but never paid it much mind. Still though, was absolutely shocked when the news broke a few weeks ago. A few days later I saw Umphrey's McGee cover Anthem to pay their respects (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cku2sr9DMRI) which led to me picking up both Fly By Night and Exit Stage Left (what a setlist), both of which I've enjoyed very much.
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Did you listen to A Farewell To Kings? What say you? I'm not sure it's their "best" album, but it might be the very sweetspot between all their various influences.
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Did you listen to A Farewell To Kings? What say you? I'm not sure it's their "best" album, but it might be the very sweetspot between all their various influences.
I like all their albums actually and so I don't know what could be their best album, but like you said, it merges their pre COS influences with what came after IMHO and combines it all very well.
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This is pretty cool:
http://bravewords.com/news/rush-st-catharines-council-moves-to-rename-lakeside-park-pavilion-after-neil-peart
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Did you listen to A Farewell To Kings? What say you? I'm not sure it's their "best" album, but it might be the very sweetspot between all their various influences.
I did once or twice, and I didn't dislike it, but not enough spins to give an actual opinion. I've been on a big blues kick lately, I grabbed a bunch of Joe Bonamassa and Black Country Communion stuff when JB had a big sale for his online store a few weeks ago. So it's been all that (and some other blues) and then also trying to get familiar with the new SOA album before their show. Rush is next on my list though.
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Been really interesting reading this thread over the last few weeks, a lot of you guys were way more into Rush than I've been and clearly he had a huge impact on everyone, both with his lyrics and his playing. I was always familiar with the hits from Moving Pictures, and I owned 2112 because I'm pretty sure it's required by law if you love prog rock epics. I picked up Clockwork Angels and Permanent Waves at some point along the way and then pulled the trigger at the very last minute (I'm talking like an hour before the show started) on a ticket to see the Madison Square Garden show on their final tour. I had heard the whispers that this was probably their last tour and felt like it was a bucket list item for any prog fan. I ended up in the 14th row and saw an absolute killer show. I picked up the A Farewell to Kings 40th anniversary release not too long ago, but never paid it much mind. Still though, was absolutely shocked when the news broke a few weeks ago. A few days later I saw Umphrey's McGee cover Anthem to pay their respects (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cku2sr9DMRI) which led to me picking up both Fly By Night and Exit Stage Left (what a setlist), both of which I've enjoyed very much.
Didn't really like the vocal phrasing much, but otherwise it was pretty good. I could watch/listen to Umphrey's play all night.
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This is pretty cool:
http://bravewords.com/news/rush-st-catharines-council-moves-to-rename-lakeside-park-pavilion-after-neil-peart
Perfect!
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A few worthy links.....
http://www.bobcesca.com/the-bob-cesca-show-interview-donna-halper-on-neil-peart-1-22-20/
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rush-neil-peart-podcast-tribute-941028/
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Went to a friends's house last night who was having a few of us over and we eventually ended up watching all of Rush in Rio. I did so much air drumming that my body feels today like I actually went to a concert. :lol :metal :metal
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Went to a friends's house last night who was having a few of us over and we eventually ended up watching all of Rush in Rio. I did so much air drumming that my body feels today like I actually went to a concert. :lol :metal :metal
I watched the doc on that Rio disc a few days ago myself. Generally will save the live DVDs for weekends.
It's great that they really loosened up with that stuff after the hiatus.
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Went to a friends's house last night who was having a few of us over and we eventually ended up watching all of Rush in Rio. I did so much air drumming that my body feels today like I actually went to a concert. :lol :metal :metal
I watched the doc on that Rio disc a few days ago myself. Generally will save the live DVDs for weekends.
It's great that they really loosened up with that stuff after the hiatus.
The Rio documentary was almost surreal at the time. I don't think the younger peeps here realize how guarded and private the band was in the 20th century. Sure, they'd do interviews, but we rarely got any behind the scenes footage or anything like that, and then they came back from the hiatus and we were spoiled beyond belief from 2002-2015. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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the Cleveland DJ who was interviewed in Beyond the Lighted Stage, Donna Halper was interviewed recently
https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2020/02/07/remembering-rush-drummer-neil-peart-with-the-boston-woman-who-discovered-the-band
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JFC - this is one of the most incredible renditions of this song I have ever heard and it's done in memory of Neil.
You're going to tear up, I can almost guarantee it.
https://youtu.be/aAPSK_cV5n0
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There's something in my eye. :'(
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Wow, that was incredible! :'( :coolio :heart
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That was beautiful. That arrangement really made me realize how powerful that song is. :'(
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Wow, that was incredible! :'( :coolio :heart
A massive understatement! :hefdaddy
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Wow, that was something else. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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fantastic tribute.
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The piano was great on that.
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There is no word in the english language to appropriately describe this. :'(
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I shared that beautiful rendition of Time Stand Still on fb yesterday and still haven't got one like or comment.
If I were to post a picture of a half eaten meal on my plate, I would get 50 or more likes... WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS WORLD??!!!
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I shared that beautiful rendition of Time Stand Still on fb yesterday and still haven't got one like or comment.
If I were to post a picture of a half eaten meal on my plate, I would get 50 or more likes... WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS WORLD??!!!
shared it as well, got one like and a share. I did see that the view of the video went from 2,500 yesterday when I first saw it to 85,00 24hrs later.
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I shared that beautiful rendition of Time Stand Still on fb yesterday and still haven't got one like or comment.
If I were to post a picture of a half eaten meal on my plate, I would get 50 or more likes... WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS WORLD??!!!
My guess is that the logic of the average FB person is, a picture is easy to look at for two seconds, click the like button, and move on, as opposed to taking the time to watch a video.
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I shared that beautiful rendition of Time Stand Still on fb yesterday and still haven't got one like or comment.
If I were to post a picture of a half eaten meal on my plate, I would get 50 or more likes... WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS WORLD??!!!
My guess is that the logic of the average FB person is, a picture is easy to look at for two seconds, click the like button, and move on, as opposed to taking the time to watch a video.
Oh, you mean A.D.D. :biggrin:
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I shared that beautiful rendition of Time Stand Still on fb yesterday and still haven't got one like or comment.
If I were to post a picture of a half eaten meal on my plate, I would get 50 or more likes... WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS WORLD??!!!
My guess is that the logic of the average FB person is, a picture is easy to look at for two seconds, click the like button, and move on, as opposed to taking the time to watch a video.
Oh, you mean A.D.D. :biggrin:
Welcome to the impatience and need for instant gratification of modern society :yeahright
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What about posting a link?
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JFC - this is one of the most incredible renditions of this song I have ever heard and it's done in memory of Neil.
You're going to tear up, I can almost guarantee it.
https://youtu.be/aAPSK_cV5n0
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I find it funny how many of you had similar social reactions to me. I got some reactions and comments, but it was minimal.
24 hours after I shared it, I noticed no fewer than 5 of my own friends sharing it, none directly from my share. The tangled web of social media is quite interesting.
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I have to admit, I saw the link posted a few places, and I ignored it. A cover by the U.S. Army Band? No thanks. But I clicked it here, and I'm glad I did. That was amazing.
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There is no word in the english language to appropriately describe this. :'(
None.
I just added water(works) Thought I'd climbed over that mountain.
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JFC - this is one of the most incredible renditions of this song I have ever heard and it's done in memory of Neil.
You're going to tear up, I can almost guarantee it.
https://youtu.be/aAPSK_cV5n0
This was beyond beautiful.
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I shared that beautiful rendition of Time Stand Still on fb yesterday and still haven't got one like or comment.
If I were to post a picture of a half eaten meal on my plate, I would get 50 or more likes... WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS WORLD??!!!
that doesn't surprise me, a friend of mine was shown on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver a few weeks ago and got only 2 likes, and 1 was her, lol.
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I shared that beautiful rendition of Time Stand Still on fb yesterday and still haven't got one like or comment.
If I were to post a picture of a half eaten meal on my plate, I would get 50 or more likes... WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS WORLD??!!!
that doesn't surprise me, a friend of mine was shown on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver a few weeks ago and got only 2 likes, and 1 was her, lol.
I'll be honest, though; some of it is the subject matter. I'm sort of sensitive to the context here. I liked it, I have a deep sense of appreciation for the military and the contributions they make for us (my stepson is in Afghanistan serving now), but if I don't quite agree with all the sentiments (not saying if I do or not) I'm more likely to not say anything than be "that guy".
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I might have tried to make this even though it is on a week night. Still may be a chance I suppose.
https://www.ardmoremusic.com/e/a-celebration-of-neil-peart-rush-ft-members-of-dr-dog-more--99058593921/
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I might have tried to make this even though it is on a week night. Still may be a chance I suppose.
https://www.ardmoremusic.com/e/a-celebration-of-neil-peart-rush-ft-members-of-dr-dog-more--99058593921/
That is an awesome lineup! Cool to see In the Presence of Wolves on there, I always thought they had major Rush influences in their music.
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Not exactly the best presser, when it has this in his bio:
Neil lives in California with his wife Carrie, daughter Olivia, and golden retriever Winston, and also maintains a home in Quebec–a link to his Canadian roots.
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Not exactly the best presser, when it has this in his bio:
Neil lives in California with his wife Carrie, daughter Olivia, and golden retriever Winston, and also maintains a home in Quebec–a link to his Canadian roots.
Insensitively not edited very well. This is canceled along with everything else. I would imagine the tribute show in St. Catherines didn't survive the chopping block either.
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Not exactly the best presser, when it has this in his bio:
Neil lives in California with his wife Carrie, daughter Olivia, and golden retriever Winston, and also maintains a home in Quebec–a link to his Canadian roots.
Insensitively not edited very well. This is canceled along with everything else. I would imagine the tribute show in St. Catherines didn't survive the chopping block either.
Postponed until further notice.
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Not exactly the best presser, when it has this in his bio:
Neil lives in California with his wife Carrie, daughter Olivia, and golden retriever Winston, and also maintains a home in Quebec–a link to his Canadian roots.
Insensitively not edited very well. This is canceled along with everything else. I would imagine the tribute show in St. Catherines didn't survive the chopping block either.
Postponed until further notice.
Interesting.
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One year ago today. 😢
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I haven’t had a chance to read this yet, but Rolling Stone has a feature on Neil today with interviews with Alex and Geddy as well as Neil’s widow.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/neil-peart-rush-dead-cover-story-1110496/
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I haven’t had a chance to read this year, but Rolling Stone has a feature on Neil today with interviews with Alex and Geddy as well as Neil’s widow.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/neil-peart-rush-dead-cover-story-1110496/
That was truly amazing. and I didn't know Alex had a health scare in March!!! He looked healthy in the last videos and pictures I saw.
I wrote this on January 12th last year while trying to come to terms with Neil's passing - sharing it here again hoping you guys like it: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/a-reflection-on-the-loss-of-neil-peart/
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Wow it's been a year already. You know, I don't think a musician's passing has hit me this hard since George Harrison in 2001.
And I hadn't even listened to them for many years, never saw them live. It took me many months before I could start listening to Rush again, quite honestly.
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I haven’t had a chance to read this year, but Rolling Stone has a feature on Neil today with interviews with Alex and Geddy as well as Neil’s widow.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/neil-peart-rush-dead-cover-story-1110496/
Absolute must read article, thanks for posting it.
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I haven’t had a chance to read this year, but Rolling Stone has a feature on Neil today with interviews with Alex and Geddy as well as Neil’s widow.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/neil-peart-rush-dead-cover-story-1110496/
Fuckity fuck fuck! His death is still a punch to my gut! :(
Thanks for sharing.
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Having now read the article, that was extremely well done. I love this passage:
Peart was determined to make the most of his remaining time, just as he had always sought to maximize his days. “What’s the most excellent thing I can do today?” he used to ask himself. The answer often meant roaring through a national park on a BMW motorcycle before playing drums in an arena. (“You can do a lot in a lifetime,” he wrote in the lyrics to “Marathon,” one of Rush’s most powerful songs, “if you don’t burn out too fast.”) That was one of his signatures as a drummer, too, cramming an improbable amount of rhythmic information into each bar of music; he made his living by pushing the limits of time.
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K can't believe it's been a year since Neil left us,thanks for sharing the RS article. I thought it was so cool that little Olivia is an aspiring drummer. How awesome would it be for her to carry on her dad's musical legacy.
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I haven’t had a chance to read this yet, but Rolling Stone has a feature on Neil today with interviews with Alex and Geddy as well as Neil’s widow.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/neil-peart-rush-dead-cover-story-1110496/
Really well-done, emotional article. I tip my hat to the journalist who weaved it together. Can't believe it's been a year since Neil passed.
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Wow, that was an excellent read, and I don't usually like articles like this.
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That article was a really good read. I was pretty damn sad last year when I had heard of Neil‘s passing, but since that time, it’s still a sad occurrence sure, but not quite as much as this kind of thing unfortunately happens. Two things, though, that slay me. First, for everything that he gave to his fans, his country, and the world to make it a better place, it surely feels like his retirement was cut way too short. And second, that he and his daughter will never have the opportunity again to get to know each other any better than what they did during the 10 years that he was alive with her, except for the stories and videos she may hear and see from his past. She misses out on having her dad around as she grows up, and he misses out on watching it.
How proud he must have been to know of her love of what he did for a living and her desire to not just follow in his footsteps, but to potentially do it very well. I can just imagine his face’s expression as he uttered, “She’s got it,” recognizing the innate talent she already had, and the wonderment of what she could grow into with it.
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That was an amazing read! :tup
Half an hour flew by!
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I love how Stewart Copeland addressed other drummers during his eulogy and said "because of Neil, all of us drummers here have heard the phrase 'you're my second favorite drummer' from a friend".
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Saw that article earlier. Great stuff. Gotta admit it got a little dusty at times reading it. One year today. Damn. And I am not the type to get bothered by celebrities/musicians I don't know in real life passing, but there was just something special about Neil Peart. I know I am not alone in thinking that.
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A year ago I was driving home to change and meet up with my brother to see a Rush cover band, Lotus Land. I heard the news before the show. It was surreal. How time flies a year later.
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Wow, that was an excellent read, and I don't usually like articles like this.
Same...and I pretty much abhor Rolling Stone.
The best part of the article was the stuff about Neil's relationship with his daughter. Very cool.
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A Drumeo tribute To Neil Peart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a64-AoQTz7s)
I'm no Rush fan - but I enjoyed this vid.
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Wow, that was an excellent read, and I don't usually like articles like this.
Same...and I pretty much abhor Rolling Stone.
Exactly! Effing Rolling Stone actually had something I thought was pretty great.
I love how Stewart Copeland addressed other drummers during his eulogy and said "because of Neil, all of us drummers here have heard the phrase 'you're my second favorite drummer' from a friend".
That cracked me up. :lol
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I had a Rush live binge last night with a beer in hand. The Rolling Stone feature brought a tear to my eye.
His loss affected me more than I ever thought it would, but then you realise that you kind of know the guy through his words.
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It's funny, because I don't personalize this stuff much; I get sad, of course, but it's not like losing a family member to me.
There are a few that are different though, and Neil is one of them (Eddie another). I was very sad when Chris Squire passed, and really shook when John Wetton died, but they had the feel of being "older" to me. So much of Yes and KC I had to go back through time and revisit. Even though Neil was 67 - and so 15 years older than me - there was something CONTEMPORARY about him to me. That was a band I grew up with. Meaning, we grew up at the same time. It's the same with Eddie. I didn't get their records on release until later, but they were releasing their prime records when I was actively listening, so I COULD have. I don't know; it's hard to articulate. I'm still not drowned in tears, but again, these are starting to hit closer to home.
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Neil for me was, and really still is, the only true celebrity "hero," if you will, that I have ever had. I didn't idolize him the way he so abhorred; I didn't worship him or feel he owed me some sort of attention simply because I was a fan. I looked up to him in many ways, whether it was his drumming, his writing, or simply his class and personal dignity. His strength when Selena and Jackie (first daughter and wife) passed, even in his grief, was something I couldn't/can't imagine. I would have probably gone over the edge, but he found the strength through the "healing road" as he called it. He wasn't just an awesome musician or amazing writer; almost every single person who was fortunate enough to know him called him a simply great person.
With the brotherhood that exists within the Rush fanbase, I think a lot of us didn't just feel like we lost a band member we loved. We felt like we lost a piece of our family, albeit very far extended and separated through fanship. I have never been truly heartbroken over a celebrity death before him, but this truly affected me, and still does. One of the single most important icons of my life died, and it hits very hard and very deep. He was one-of-a-kind to a lot of us because his contributions added to our lives, not just to our music. At least, that is how I feel.
Another thing I keep returning to in my mind, and this is true regardless of it being a year on now, is the fact that Geddy and Alex had to keep it hidden through all of those interviews over the years of his illness (this is briefly alluded to in the RS article). I cannot imagine how they must have felt inside whenever they were asked "is there a chance for a reunion show" or "will Neil ever agree to play one more show?" To know the real truth, not just that Neil was retired but that he was, in fact, dying, and having to act like the questions, which were innocuous enough given that no one else knew the circumstances, didn't stab them in the hearts every single time must have been excruciating.
Unlike some, I took to listening to Rush almost constantly after he passed. I didn't feel the grief in listening to the music; the music helped me find solace because it is what we have left. The fact that his contributions will live on as they will is a great comfort to me. We will always have the music, the words, the videos, and the memories.
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Well said, Andrew.
Like you, I listened to tons of Rush in the weeks following Neil's passing. To me, it was like a celebration of the awesome and diverse career that Neil had with the band.
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Neil for me was, and really still is, the only true celebrity "hero," if you will, that I have ever had. I didn't idolize him the way he so abhorred; I didn't worship him or feel he owed me some sort of attention simply because I was a fan. I looked up to him in many ways, whether it was his drumming, his writing, or simply his class and personal dignity. His strength when Selena and Jackie (first daughter and wife) passed, even in his grief, was something I couldn't/can't imagine. I would have probably gone over the edge, but he found the strength through the "healing road" as he called it. He wasn't just an awesome musician or amazing writer; almost every single person who was fortunate enough to know him called him a simply great person.
With the brotherhood that exists within the Rush fanbase, I think a lot of us didn't just feel like we lost a band member we loved. We felt like we lost a piece of our family, albeit very far extended and separated through fanship. I have never been truly heartbroken over a celebrity death before him, but this truly affected me, and still does. One of the single most important icons of my life died, and it hits very hard and very deep. He was one-of-a-kind to a lot of us because his contributions added to our lives, not just to our music. At least, that is how I feel.
Another thing I keep returning to in my mind, and this is true regardless of it being a year on now, is the fact that Geddy and Alex had to keep it hidden through all of those interviews over the years of his illness (this is briefly alluded to in the RS article). I cannot imagine how they must have felt inside whenever they were asked "is there a chance for a reunion show" or "will Neil ever agree to play one more show?" To know the real truth, not just that Neil was retired but that he was, in fact, dying, and having to act like the questions, which were innocuous enough given that no one else knew the circumstances, didn't stab them in the hearts every single time must have been excruciating.
Unlike some, I took to listening to Rush almost constantly after he passed. I didn't feel the grief in listening to the music; the music helped me find solace because it is what we have left. The fact that his contributions will live on as they will is a great comfort to me. We will always have the music, the words, the videos, and the memories.
This pretty much sums up, albeit much more eloquently, how I feel about Neil. I was fortunate enough to have met him once in passing at a gas station. I think I recounted the story earlier in this thread or in the Rush thread. He was just an incredibly down to earth and genuinely nice person.
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With the brotherhood that exists within the Rush fanbase, I think a lot of us didn't just feel like we lost a band member we loved. We felt like we lost a piece of our family, albeit very far extended and separated through fanship. I have never been truly heartbroken over a celebrity death before him, but this truly affected me, and still does. One of the single most important icons of my life died, and it hits very hard and very deep. He was one-of-a-kind to a lot of us because his contributions added to our lives, not just to our music. At least, that is how I feel.
I read this twice, because it was so eloquent in its simplicity (I offer that as the utmost compliment). I have never been noticeably affected by the loss of someone I didn't personally know. But appreciate that it happens so genuinely to others. I guess I get pretty detached when it comes to artists and their art. When Neil passed, I wasn't saddened at all by the news itself. But when I got on here and read the thoughts all of you shared, it greatly saddened me that all my friends here were hurting.
Not sure where I am going with this. To me he was just a musician (not "just" a musician, but I hope you get me). But then I read that RS piece, and remember that he was two much more important things, things that I myself am: a husband, and a father. And to think that the person who was those two things is no longer around, that makes me sad.
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Geddy's quote about how Neil didn't get to ever really enjoy what he fought so hard for (retirement) cut deep as well. Geddy, more than probably anyone along with Alex, knew damn well that Neil wasn't a fan of touring since, what, the late 80's? But he accepted it as part of being in a band and persisted with it until 2015. And when he finally got to hang it up for good, he was gone less than five years later. :( :(
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I am not knowledgeable about the guys and their history, but that jumped out at me as well.
I bet lots of us know someone in a similar situation. My wife laments her favorite uncle got cancer and died shortly after retiring and building a home with his wife. We both pushed our parents to retire as soon as they were reasonably able to (not that they needed our encouragement).
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I really liked the bits about Neil apparently reflecting on Rush’s discography, going back and listening to stuff and feeling a sense of pride and accomplishment.
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Geddy's quote about how Neil didn't get to ever really enjoy what he fought so hard for (retirement) cut deep as well. Geddy, more than probably anyone along with Alex, knew damn well that Neil wasn't a fan of touring since, what, the late 80's? But he accepted it as part of being in a band and persisted with it until 2015. And when he finally got to hang it up for good, he was gone less than five years later. :( :(
It’s a testament to how selfless he was. Even at the end he had so many good reasons not to (his young daughter, his own health issues), but he did that last tour for Alex who wanted to do one more before his arthritis made it impossible.
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An awesome article and tribute to Neil from (surprisingly) Rolling Stone. Shame that RS didn't give Rush their due for so many years until Rush finally became "cool"...
Geddy's quote about how Neil didn't get to ever really enjoy what he fought so hard for (retirement) cut deep as well. Geddy, more than probably anyone along with Alex, knew damn well that Neil wasn't a fan of touring since, what, the late 80's? But he accepted it as part of being in a band and persisted with it until 2015. And when he finally got to hang it up for good, he was gone less than five years later. :( :(
It’s a testament to how selfless he was. Even at the end he had so many good reasons not to (his young daughter, his own health issues), but he did that last tour for Alex who wanted to do one more before his arthritis made it impossible.
Yeah, that's a bitter pill to swallow (that Neil didn't really get to enjoy his retirement for very long), but it really does speak for the kind of selfless person he was.
What I found a bit surprising is the report that at the beginning of the R40 tour, Neil seemed open to doing even more shows than the initial run, and that it seems that it was his health ailments (especially the infection in his foot) that changed his mind. Given his disappointment in leaving Olivia, I wouldn't have expected him to do more shows than the initially planned run under any circumstances. So at least early on, he must have really been enjoying the shows to entertain that thought.
Shame he got that infection, but it was probably for the best, considering how his life ended up getting cut short not long after retiring. Imagine if they would've extended the tour to hit Europe and maybe South America, and then maybe another run through North America. That would mean several more months that he would've been on the road, away from his family, and then to come home and maybe have a few months before he starts realizing that something's wrong? That would have been even more tragic than what happened.
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An awesome article and tribute to Neil from (surprisingly) Rolling Stone. Shame that RS didn't give Rush their due for so many years until Rush finally became "cool"...
Geddy's quote about how Neil didn't get to ever really enjoy what he fought so hard for (retirement) cut deep as well. Geddy, more than probably anyone along with Alex, knew damn well that Neil wasn't a fan of touring since, what, the late 80's? But he accepted it as part of being in a band and persisted with it until 2015. And when he finally got to hang it up for good, he was gone less than five years later. :( :(
It’s a testament to how selfless he was. Even at the end he had so many good reasons not to (his young daughter, his own health issues), but he did that last tour for Alex who wanted to do one more before his arthritis made it impossible.
Yeah, that's a bitter pill to swallow (that Neil didn't really get to enjoy his retirement for very long), but it really does speak for the kind of selfless person he was.
What I found a bit surprising is the report that at the beginning of the R40 tour, Neil seemed open to doing even more shows than the initial run, and that it seems that it was his health ailments (especially the infection in his foot) that changed his mind. Given his disappointment in leaving Olivia, I wouldn't have expected him to do more shows than the initially planned run under any circumstances. So at least early on, he must have really been enjoying the shows to entertain that thought.
Shame he got that infection, but it was probably for the best, considering how his life ended up getting cut short not long after retiring. Imagine if they would've extended the tour to hit Europe and maybe South America, and then maybe another run through North America. That would mean several more months that he would've been on the road, away from his family, and then to come home and maybe have a few months before he starts realizing that something's wrong? That would have been even more tragic than what happened.
I don't know the guy, never met the guy, and haven't read the article yet, but this doesn't strike me as clearly black and white. He was a working musician. Sure he loved his family, his wife and child, but he loved his friends and his instrument and his art, too. I see this less as a grand gesture than simply the complicated choice of a man who put a lot of thought and contemplation into the things he did (just as admirable, in my view).
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Finally read it this morning. Well worth every minute.
Well said, Andrew.
Like you, I listened to tons of Rush in the weeks following Neil's passing. To me, it was like a celebration of the awesome and diverse career that Neil had with the band.
My thoughts exactly.
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Geddy's quote about how Neil didn't get to ever really enjoy what he fought so hard for (retirement) cut deep as well. Geddy, more than probably anyone along with Alex, knew damn well that Neil wasn't a fan of touring since, what, the late 80's? But he accepted it as part of being in a band and persisted with it until 2015. And when he finally got to hang it up for good, he was gone less than five years later. :( :(
It’s a testament to how selfless he was. Even at the end he had so many good reasons not to (his young daughter, his own health issues), but he did that last tour for Alex who wanted to do one more before his arthritis made it impossible.
+1. And I'm grateful that in doing that, we as fans got one last tour.
I really liked the bits about Neil apparently reflecting on Rush’s discography, going back and listening to stuff and feeling a sense of pride and accomplishment.
Yes. That made me really happy to read as well.
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Yeah, seeing them 11 times was not enough. I am glad we got the R40 tour so I could get that number to 12. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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R40 was 12 for me as well.
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R40 was 12 for me as well.
I feel like I'm the only person who didn't see them on the R40 tour. At the time I was thinking I would catch them on the next tour..... :(
I did see them on every tour before that going back to the Counterparts tour at least.
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R40 was my 8th and final show (http://allmediareviews.blogspot.com/2015/05/rush-may-12th-2015-xcel-energy-center.html). I will never forget feeling like it was the end of an era with the comments about both Neil and Alex dealing with physical issues performing every night.
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Amazing drum cam footage
https://youtu.be/l3T-9wCVQPw?t=1
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Amazing drum cam footage
https://youtu.be/l3T-9wCVQPw?t=1
Cool. Just a shame it’s layered on the studio version of the song, not the actual audio of that drum cam. :\
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Amazing drum cam footage
https://youtu.be/l3T-9wCVQPw?t=1
Cool. Just a shame it’s layered on the studio version of the song, not the actual audio of that drum cam. :\
I could be wrong but I think they were showing that his live performance is perfectly in sync with the studio. Which, unless he’s using a click, is just insanity.
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Amazing drum cam footage
https://youtu.be/l3T-9wCVQPw?t=1
Cool. Just a shame it’s layered on the studio version of the song, not the actual audio of that drum cam. :\
I could be wrong but I think they were showing that his live performance is perfectly in sync with the studio. Which, unless he’s using a click, is just insanity.
I believe the only time he used a click was for Red Sector A. If I remember correctly.
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Neil used a click for any song that had extended sequencing, e.g. Time Stand Still, Roll The Bones, etc. In order to make sure the band came in and out and stayed on with the rap in RTB, he played to a click, and there was a sequencer section in the outer bridge to TSS that he rode a click into. He mentioned this in a really cool clinic he did on the Bones tour. It's on youtube if you search it (sorry, going to sleep now or id find the link).
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Neil used a click for any song that had extended sequencing, e.g. Time Stand Still, Roll The Bones, etc. In order to make sure the band came in and out and stayed on with the rap in RTB, he played to a click, and there was a sequencer section in the outer bridge to TSS that he rode a click into. He mentioned this in a really cool clinic he did on the Bones tour. It's on youtube if you search it (sorry, going to sleep now or id find the link).
Learn something new every day. Thanks for the info. I'll see if I can find that video.
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Here you go. There are a few versions, some split up. This is the most complete, I think.
https://youtu.be/CBNfDggYVlw
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It's stuff like this that really show Neil was just on a whole other level from most drummers. :metal
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R40 was 12 for me as well.
I feel like I'm the only person who didn't see them on the R40 tour. At the time I was thinking I would catch them on the next tour..... :(
I did see them on every tour before that going back to the Counterparts tour at least.
:( I think you probably need a hug. So, *hugs*
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R40 was 12 for me as well.
I feel like I'm the only person who didn't see them on the R40 tour. At the time I was thinking I would catch them on the next tour..... :(
I did see them on every tour before that going back to the Counterparts tour at least.
:( I think you probably need a hug. So, *hugs*
:hug:
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I saw them once.
I am grateful. ;)
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R 40 was my 23rd show and I almost didn't see it. The tickets were so damn expensive that I decided against forking out the dough. I ended up reconsidering knowing it would be my last chance and I'm so glad I did, it was really such a great tour.
Ticket for first show (GUP tour) $6.75 at the Spectrum in Philly
Ticket for R 40 $350.00 at Wells Fargo in Philly.
$6.75 tickets were much better seats.
Isn't that crazy?
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That is crazy. You must have gotten resale tickets or maybe the Ticketmaster premium seats because face value was much less. I think maybe $150 at the more expensive venues.
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R40 was 12 for me as well.
I feel like I'm the only person who didn't see them on the R40 tour. At the time I was thinking I would catch them on the next tour..... :(
I did see them on every tour before that going back to the Counterparts tour at least.
No, me too. At the time it made sense; I saw them so many times up to that point, and they didn't play Hartford. I always love a good trip to the City, but for some reason I didn't pull the trigger.
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I didn't become a fan (beyond the radio hits) until '89. Only missed the Counterparts tour (was in Uni) after that. Though, I didn't see them multiple times too often. I think I got 9 or 10 shows under my belt.
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R 40 was my 23rd show and I almost didn't see it. The tickets were so damn expensive that I decided against forking out the dough. I ended up reconsidering knowing it would be my last chance and I'm so glad I did, it was really such a great tour.
Ticket for first show (GUP tour) $6.75 at the Spectrum in Philly
Ticket for R 40 $350.00 at Wells Fargo in Philly.
$6.75 tickets were much better seats.
Isn't that crazy?
R40 was my 20th Rush show (nice round number). I saw every tour at least once going back to GUP. I don't have the ticket stub from that first show. The ticket below is from my second Rush concert. $16.50 face value, but my friend and I bought these seats from a ticket broker, and I think we paid about $70. For R40 (the Aug. 1, 2015 show at the Forum), I bought my ticket on Stubhub. Don't remember exactly how much, but it was in the $250 range.
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26711_1322150694410_7575433_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=TZBwVkzat7MAX85Uh_L&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=82ba384b48c1b17d30fbde67106268ee&oe=60222390)
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Yeah there was definitely some upcharging going on but we had waited so long *I think* it was sold out so we had to do what was necessary. My buddy actually subsidized my ticket as payback for all the shows I have treated him to over the years when he was broke. He and I saw 22 of the 23 together. Every tour since GUP most tours multiple nights in Philly and NY. Good times...The sound track of my youth!
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Not seeing R40 will turn out to be my biggest regret in life. Back on the mp forum another user who lived in the same city even offered me to see the show with him. Can't remember the reason why I didn't go but recall it being something very trivial. I didn't follow the banter that many fans had suspected this would be their last tour for whatever reason. The live boxsets are nice, would've been nice to see the guys live at least once being a fan since early 2000s.
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Rush was my one "never miss." I found a way to see at least one show per tour from 1994 onward, and that amounted to 12 shows. Having read what I had read, I knew in my heart that was going to be the last time I saw them live, but there was also a faint kindling that at some point down the line, maybe the boys would get together for a one-off, maybe in NYC or something. I would have absolutely invested in going to that. This time last year, amidst it all, one of the things I felt was immensely fortunate to have been to able to see and witness and enjoy all that I had, and gratitude that the band had been so gracious to share the majority of their lives with thousands (millions?) of people they would never know.
Rush, and Neil, were something undeniably special to those who loved them. It's this one universal good, for me. There was always Rush, and there is always the music. That will never die.
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I had to skip R40 too. I was living in Rio at the time, and there was always that hope that they would eventually come back - I could NEVER understand them calling it quits without playing in Rio again, a place that had quite a significance in their history. Also, my daughter was 01 year old at the time R40 was happening, so I couldn't travel to the US and leave her alone with her mom. I did watch many of those concerts through Periscope, but obviously nothing beats the energy of being in the crowd. No regrets though, I would hate myself for leaving the family at such an important time for a concert.
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Yeah there was definitely some upcharging going on but we had waited so long *I think* it was sold out so we had to do what was necessary. My buddy actually subsidized my ticket as payback for all the shows I have treated him to over the years when he was broke. He and I saw 22 of the 23 together. Every tour since GUP most tours multiple nights in Philly and NY. Good times...The sound track of my youth!
My best friend who (I think) attended all but one of my Rush shows with me was having some financial issues at the time, so he wasn't able to go to R40, so I didn't get a ticket when they went on sale. I think that's the reason I went aftermarket on Stubhub. Rush is the one band that I got a hall pass to see live during the couple years after my son was born in 2002.
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I saw every tour from 1984 (GUP Tour) to R40. 31 in all and 3 opening shows of 3 different tours.
Power Windows
Vapor Trails (Emotional night)
Clockwork Angels
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I saw every tour from 1984 (GUP Tour) to R40. 31 in all and 3 opening shows of 3 different tours.
Power Windows
Vapor Trails (Emotional night)
Clockwork Angels
That's the best part; I've been at I think three tour opening nights (I don't think Rush). But they liked starting on the East Coast, which was cool.
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It's always fun to peruse back through the set lists over the years to see what was played and what wasn't, and for my own personal journey, it's still kind of funny that I never saw them play In the Mood. From 1974 through the Presto tour, I believe it was a staple on practically every tour, and then I first saw them on the Roll the Bones tour and the song was never played again.
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I loved that. I had my own list of songs I would kill to see live. Presto was one. Vapor Trail was another.
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Neil is just the best, I adore his playing RIP
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I loved that. I had my own list of songs I would kill to see live. Presto was one. Vapor Trail was another.
It was a bummer that Manhattan Project was a rotated song on the Clockwork Angels tour (with Dreamline), thus I never got to see that one live, but based on the rotations, I might have missed out on Middletown Dreams for The Body Electric had our rotation gone another way, so I was thrilled we got Middletown Dreams and Dreamline instead of The Body Electric and Manhattan Project. Plus, we got The Pass, which was rotated with Bravado, another great one, but I would have rather gotten The Pass, so I was happy.
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Plus, we got The Pass, which was rotated with Bravado, another great one, but I would have rather gotten The Pass, so I was happy.
These would be on the list of songs I wished I'd never had to sit through live.
Unfortunately, The T4E tour was the last time I saw Rush.
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It's like reading a buddy eat from a famous chef and say the meal was meh.
Tim you fucking metalhead. :lol
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I would have loved to sit through any Rush songs. :-[
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:lol
Oddly, I freaking love the Presto album.
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It really is too bad that more Presto songs weren't played this century (The Pass and the title track were the only ones), but I get that they had so much material at that point and only so many spots in the set lists. Chain Lightning and Available Light are two songs that never got played that damn well should have been.
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Available Light is one of my all time favorite Rush tunes.
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Available Light is one of my all time favorite Rush tunes.
On my bucket list.
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I realize that Presto is technically an 80's album, but I loved the more organic sound on it. A nice refresher to the shlock that was the previous two albums.
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:facepalm: :facepalm:
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I realize that Presto is technically an 80's album, but I loved the more organic sound on it. A nice refresher to the shlock that was the previous two albums.
Talking shit on Power Windows again I see Tim. Hmmm..
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I didn't say Power Windows. You said Power Windows. ;D
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I realize that Presto is technically an 80's album, but I loved the more organic sound on it. A nice refresher to the shlock that was the previous two albums.
Talking shit on Power Windows again I see Tim. Hmmm..
We all have our own personal little fails.
Then there's Tim. Nothing "little" about this fail.
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It really is too bad that more Presto songs weren't played this century (The Pass and the title track were the only ones), but I get that they had so much material at that point and only so many spots in the set lists. Chain Lightning and Available Light are two songs that never got played that damn well should have been.
Not sure how well Geddy could have handled Available Light from 2000 on.
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Not sure how well Geddy could have handled Available Light from 2000 on.
Yep, it would have been a struggle. I stand by my opinion that Cold Fire and Nobody's Hero never got played in the 21st century because they were too tough for him to pull off (he struggled with both in the 90's).
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Not sure how well Geddy could have handled Available Light from 2000 on.
Yep, it would have been a struggle. I stand by my opinion that Cold Fire and Nobody's Hero never got played in the 21st century because they were too tough for him to pull off (he struggled with both in the 90's).
Huh, Cold Fire doesn’t seem like it would give him that many problems.
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I didn't say Power Windows. You said Power Windows. ;D
Hmmm....
I realize that Presto is technically an 80's album, but I loved the more organic sound on it. A nice refresher to the shlock that was the previous two albums.
Talking shit on Power Windows again I see Tim. Hmmm..
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I would have loved to sit through any Rush songs. :-[
I think you need a hug too! *hugs*
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I would have loved to sit through any Rush songs. :-[
I think you need a hug too! *hugs*
They never toured here as far as I know. A shame.
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So the there are two songs that I actually like on Power Windows. Manhattan Project and Territories. They made my Rush Best Of The 80's Compilation. The other song from PW that made it is Marathon. It's not that I love the song (I don't), but seeing it live really gave it a whole new life.
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So the there are two songs that I actually like on Power Windows. Manhattan Project and Territories. They made my Rush Best Of The 80's Compilation. The other song from PW that made it is Marathon. It's not that I love the song (I don't), but seeing it live really gave it a whole new life.
Man, this is funny. I do actually really like those songs now, but for a long time I didn’t love Manhattan Project and Territories, and they were the two tracks on PW I might have been willing to skip over.
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So the there are two songs that I actually like on Power Windows. Manhattan Project and Territories. They made my Rush Best Of The 80's Compilation. The other song from PW that made it is Marathon. It's not that I love the song (I don't), but seeing it live really gave it a whole new life.
Man, this is funny. I do actually really like those songs now, but for a long time I didn’t love Manhattan Project and Territories, and they were the two tracks on PW I might have been willing to skip over.
I actually liked Territories right away.
Mystic Rhythms is pretty good on A Show Of Hands too.
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Getting soft in your old age Tim. :lol
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:lol
Oddly, I freaking love the Presto album.
Because you have taste. That's one of my favorites of the entire catalogue.
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I didn't say Power Windows. You said Power Windows. ;D
HAHAHA!
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So the there are two songs that I actually like on Power Windows. Manhattan Project and Territories. They made my Rush Best Of The 80's Compilation. The other song from PW that made it is Marathon. It's not that I love the song (I don't), but seeing it live really gave it a whole new life.
Man, this is funny. I do actually really like those songs now, but for a long time I didn’t love Manhattan Project and Territories, and they were the two tracks on PW I might have been willing to skip over.
A lot to agree with here; Marathon and Manhattan Project are my two favorite songs from Power Windows, and both took on a whole new life live (the lasers!!).
Also, I agree with how great Available Light is, and with the guesses as to why it was never played. That last part of what I guess the chorus harkened back to Hemispheres. :)
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I only got to see Rush 2 times. They came here, and they never came again for the Clockwork Angels and R40 Tour, I have no idea why, but I would've went easily to those shows, but they were also happening when I wasn't going to Concerts out of state as frequently as I do now. Or I would've seen them in Colorado.
The first Rush show I went to was the Snakes and Arrows tour. The setlist for my date was...
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/rush/2008/journal-pavilion-albuquerque-nm-2bd6244e.html
Red Barchetta
The Trees
Between The Wheels ----- Hearing these 3 songs back to back, for my first Rush show, was just ecstasy.
Subdivision - Tom Sawyer, I don't think I blinked my eyes at all. And getting to hear my all time favorite Rush song, Natural Science was pure joy, and then ending the main set with Tom Sawyer, the song that I liked from Rush since I was a wee boy, was just breathtaking to finally get to see played live, almost like a full circle moment of completeness.
And then A Passage to Bangkok, a song I liked from the first Rush album I bought, 2112, besides Twilight Zone (It's a good song, as it had that mystical feel, and atmosphere, and just reminds me of watching the old black and white Twilight Zone episodes, I just picture it in black and white) was hilarious to see Alex doing his Joint smoking gestures on stage :lol
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My 2nd show was the Time Machine Tour...This was the setlist.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/rush/2010/hard-rock-casino-albuquerque-presents-the-pavilion-albuquerque-nm-3d40543.html
I had no idea what the hell they were going to play, because this was the first show of the entire Time Machine Tour. So I had the honor of being able to witness Rush fuck up all the songs :lol
Being the Time Machine tour, and them playing all of Moving Pictures, the first set consisted of mainly songs not played since forever, or even not played live at all.
The songs being:
Time Stand Still (first since 1994)
Presto (Live Debut)
Stick It Out (First since 1997)
Faithless (Live Debut)
BU2B (Live Debut)
Marathon (first sing 1990)
Getting to see this time:
The Camera Eye
Vital Signs
Closer to The Heart
La Villa Strangiato
Working Man
Working Man, was just amazing. I did not expect the reggae intro to that song. But I loved it, because it fits really good. And I am glad, and quite enjoy, being one of the lucky ones to see a live debut of an old song (which I find interesting and coincidental, it's a song that was released in the year I was born, I was almost 3 months old then :omg:)
Overall, I would say, even though I wasn't fortunate to see their last 2 tours, I am still content that I got to see these 2 tours. Got to see a lot of songs I like by them, and more with their videos they played on the screens, like the South Park intro to Tom Sawyer on the Snakes and Arrows Tour.
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Everyone has their moments, fan and band alike, but for me, with something like 350 shows under my belt, there are certain things I think you sort of have to see once:
- You need to see Gilnmour play Comfortably Numb live.
- You need to see McCartney play, if not "Yesterday" then at least one of the classic Beatle songs.
- You need to see Bruce do "Born To Run".
- You need to see the Stones do "Brown Sugar".
- You need to see Page/Plant do either "Kashmir" or "Stairway To Heaven"
And I very much put "You need to see Rush playing "Tom Sawyer"" on that list.
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Everyone has their moments, fan and band alike, but for me, with something like 350 shows under my belt, there are certain things I think you sort of have to see once:
- You need to see Gilnmour play Comfortably Numb live.
- You need to see McCartney play, if not "Yesterday" then at least one of the classic Beatle songs.
- You need to see Bruce do "Born To Run".
- You need to see the Stones do "Brown Sugar".
- You need to see Page/Plant do either "Kashmir" or "Stairway To Heaven"
And I very much put "You need to see Rush playing "Tom Sawyer"" on that list.
agreed the only one I never saw was Zep
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It's always fun to peruse back through the set lists over the years to see what was played and what wasn't, and for my own personal journey, it's still kind of funny that I never saw them play In the Mood. From 1974 through the Presto tour, I believe it was a staple on practically every tour, and then I first saw them on the Roll the Bones tour and the song was never played again.
It's interesting to see that, with relatively few exceptions, if a song didn't get played on its album's tour, it never got played. Entre Nous and Presto seem to be the only exceptions (?). It was also a little surprising to see how few songs from Vapor Trails got played live (only 6 of 13, 2 of which were fairly limited).
The Snakes and Arrows tour knocked a few songs off my own personal wish list (Digital Man, Entre Nous and Circumstances), and R40 knocked off a couple more (Jacob's Ladder and Losing It).
In terms of what I didn't get to see, I'd say Fly by Night, In the End, Cinderella Man, Cygnus Book II (more than just the Prelude) and Available Light are the ones I'm really bummed about.
I realize that Presto is technically an 80's album, but I loved the more organic sound on it. A nice refresher to the shlock that was the previous two albums.
AMEN!! Definitely a bounce-back album.
:lol
Oddly, I freaking love the Presto album.
Because you have taste. That's one of my favorites of the entire catalogue.
And another amen right there!
Everyone has their moments, fan and band alike, but for me, with something like 350 shows under my belt, there are certain things I think you sort of have to see once:
- You need to see Gilnmour play Comfortably Numb live.
- You need to see McCartney play, if not "Yesterday" then at least one of the classic Beatle songs.
- You need to see Bruce do "Born To Run".
- You need to see the Stones do "Brown Sugar".
- You need to see Page/Plant do either "Kashmir" or "Stairway To Heaven"
And I very much put "You need to see Rush playing "Tom Sawyer"" on that list.
I have no interest in the two that I bolded. Would have liked to have seem some iteration of Zeppelin. Saw the others (although the Stones was only because of a girlfriend, and I didn't really enjoy it).
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I am not a man that tends to regret. I can count on one hand the things in my life that I regret and it prolly comes down to maybe 3 fingers. But dammit, I really regret not going to the final show in LA. We were there for the opening show in Tulsa (nice town BTW) and followed them through the Texas tour but I had convinced myself that they would put out another album and do an East, West, North, South tour.
We had the means to travel to LA and get good seats but we just didn't do it. Fuck! :(
I really hope they work with MP and put up some new music. I really think MP can do Rush and NP justice. :metal
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TAC and I agree on Presto being awesome, so there’s that!
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TAC and I agree on Presto being awesome, so there’s that!
You can count me in as well. That was the first Rush album I purchased. Still one of my favorites!!
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It's interesting to see that, with relatively few exceptions, if a song didn't get played on its album's tour, it never got played. Entre Nous and Presto seem to be the only exceptions (?).
Faithless, How It Is, Witch Hunt, Between Sun and Moon and Losing It all also fall under this banner. :)
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Between The Sun & Moon was played on the opening show of the Vapor Trails show in Hartford, Conn.
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It's interesting to see that, with relatively few exceptions, if a song didn't get played on its album's tour, it never got played. Entre Nous and Presto seem to be the only exceptions (?).
Faithless, How It Is, Witch Hunt, Between Sun and Moon and Losing It all also fall under this banner. :)
I loved how Alex changed the solo he added for Witch Hunt on different tours.
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It's interesting to see that, with relatively few exceptions, if a song didn't get played on its album's tour, it never got played. Entre Nous and Presto seem to be the only exceptions (?).
Faithless, How It Is, Witch Hunt, Between Sun and Moon and Losing It all also fall under this banner. :)
I knew as soon as I typed that.... Witch Hunt was so ubiquitous that I forgot it wasn't played on the MP or Signals tours. I also knew about Losing It and Faithless and saw both in person. I didn't know about the other two. They seem to have been rotated or dropped from the set list, so I never saw either song (which is fine with me in both cases).
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I really hope they work with MP and put up some new music. I really think MP can do Rush and NP justice. :metal
No. Just no. I'd much rather just live with the music and memories of Rush, and not have anyone try to recreate it/them.
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I really hope they work with MP and put up some new music. I really think MP can do Rush and NP justice. :metal
I would love to see the 3 of them get together and do something, but not as Rush. In fact, with Geddy's yodeling vocals on the last couple of tours, I'd rather see him stick to playing bass and just do backing vocals, and expand to a 5-piece, with a lead vocalist and a keyboard player. IMO, that has the potential of being very interesting and not simply re-treading what they did with Rush.
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It's interesting to see that, with relatively few exceptions, if a song didn't get played on its album's tour, it never got played. Entre Nous and Presto seem to be the only exceptions (?).
Faithless, How It Is, Witch Hunt, Between Sun and Moon and Losing It all also fall under this banner. :)
A Passage To Bangkok too
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No. Just no. I'd much rather just live with the music and memories of Rush, and not have anyone try to recreate it/them.
Agree 15000%
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No. Just no. I'd much rather just live with the music and memories of Rush, and not have anyone try to recreate it/them.
Agree 15000%
Me too.
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No. Just no. I'd much rather just live with the music and memories of Rush, and not have anyone try to recreate it/them.
Agree 15000%
Me too.
Yeah, I'd prefer Portnoy to stay far away from Geddy and Alex. It would leave a very bitter taste I think.
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I think it would be awesome if Alex and Geddy teamed up with Mike Portnoy to make new music only, with a different band name. Steve Wilson produce it? Wishful thinking, but it would be really cool! 🤔😎
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No. Just no. I'd much rather just live with the music and memories of Rush, and not have anyone try to recreate it/them.
Agree 15000%
Me too.
Yeah, I'd prefer Portnoy to stay far away from Geddy and Alex. It would leave a very bitter taste I think.
I dunno, Portnoy has a great work ethic and can make things happen fast. :tup
MP has a tremendous respect for Neil and the band. I don't think he would ever push to play Rush material.
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I really hope they work with MP and put up some new music. I really think MP can do Rush and NP justice. :metal
I would love to see the 3 of them get together and do something, but not as Rush. In fact, with Geddy's yodeling vocals on the last couple of tours, I'd rather see him stick to playing bass and just do backing vocals, and expand to a 5-piece, with a lead vocalist and a keyboard player. IMO, that has the potential of being very interesting and not simply re-treading what they did with Rush.
I'd like a Flying Colors thing; by that I mean, Geddy doesn't sing lead, but accompanies someone else who brings some songwriting to the table too. Maybe a Raine Maida or someone like that. I know, left field.
Honestly, I don't see that happening, though.
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Bring on Rik Emmet!
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Can he still sing (seriously; a lot of those guys with the high voices have lost their edge)?
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No idea ;D
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I really hope they work with MP and put up some new music. I really think MP can do Rush and NP justice. :metal
I would love to see the 3 of them get together and do something, but not as Rush. In fact, with Geddy's yodeling vocals on the last couple of tours, I'd rather see him stick to playing bass and just do backing vocals, and expand to a 5-piece, with a lead vocalist and a keyboard player. IMO, that has the potential of being very interesting and not simply re-treading what they did with Rush.
I'd like a Flying Colors thing; by that I mean, Geddy doesn't sing lead, but accompanies someone else who brings some songwriting to the table too. Maybe a Raine Maida or someone like that. I know, left field.
Honestly, I don't see that happening, though.
It wouldn’t really work for Rush material, but if they were going to work with someone in a new band I could see them doing something with Dave Grohl.
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Rik - Vocals (and Guitar?)
Alex - Guitar
Geddy - Bass (and Vocals?)
Mike - Drums (and Not Vocals)
I don't think Rik has ever been in a band where he just sang, or Alex been in a band with more than one guitar, or Geddy in a band where he didn't sing, or Mike in a band with three Canadians, so it could work.
They would start off with all four of them swearing to never play any Rush. Then eventually they would anyway (but only live, and only rarely) because Rush music is so fucking awesome, and everyone would have mixed feelings about it, including them. Then they break up because it all becomes too awkward for them.
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I think one thing we tend to overlook is the emotional tie both Geddy and Alex have to the material with Neil. It wasn't like they were Geddy's songs, or Alex's, that the guys then recorded and played. Every song, with minute exceptions, was a living embodiment of equal contributions, and is made up of equal parts of all three of them. For 2/3 of the band to play without that final third I think would feel wrong to the two of them, forgetting entirely what we as fans might think. 41 years making music as a group with the same guys....it would be like sharing a time-honored family tradition with some new guy you happen to know. I don't see Geddy and Alex doing it. For them to play Rush without looking back and seeing Neil, I think would hurt them more than please them.
That's my take at least. If they collaborate on different music, that would be something else entirely.
I am also a purist, who feels Rush without all three boys simply isn't Rush, and never would be.
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Rik - Vocals (and Guitar?)
Alex - Guitar
Geddy - Bass (and Vocals?)
Mike - Drums (and Not Vocals)
I don't think Rik has ever been in a band where he just sang, or Alex been in a band with more than one guitar, or Geddy in a band where he didn't sing, or Mike in a band with three Canadians, so it could work.
They would start off with all four of them swearing to never play any Rush. Then eventually they would anyway (but only live, and only rarely) because Rush music is so fucking awesome, and everyone would have mixed feelings about it, including them. Then they break up because it all becomes too awkward for them.
That band would be awesome!!! Rik and Geddy could switch the vocals and Alex and Geddy could switch the keyboards in a live setting. I think, about playing Rush songs live, it would be more interesting (and somewhat more respectful to the absence of Neil) if they played only the more obscure Rush songs, the ones barely or never played live (ok, maybe Tom Sawyer or Spirit just to close the show).
But, like Hyperplex said, I think, because of the emotional tie that Alex and Geddy have with all things Rush related and, let's face it, their age, maybe we will never see they work together in any kind of band/project again.
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Can he still sing (seriously; a lot of those guys with the high voices have lost their edge)?
Rik can still sing but he needs to transpose the songs to different chord structures in order to even attempt to hit the high notes which he definitely struggles with. He's still a better singer than Geddy (sorry Ged, no disrespect).
There is a promoter in Dallas that would bring Rik down to perform every year and he was always entertaining whether it was his band, with Dave Dunlop or just plain solo.
Now to Rush - Personally, I think the MP experiment would work. MP was a close enough friend with Neil that he was one of the few people that Neil disclosed illness to. As we know, he is a fan of Rush and I think he would approach the project with professionalism and dignity.
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Alex and Geddy will never play with another drummer under the name RUSH. Will they do a one off playing RUSH songs with different drummers as a tribute? Yes. I agree with others they might so another project with musicians. I think it will not be a 3 piece band though.
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Alex and Geddy will never play with another drummer under the name RUSH. Will they do a one off playing RUSH songs with different drummers as a tribute? Yes. I agree with others they might so another project with musicians. I think it will not be a 3 piece band though.
Well I definitely agree with this. Maybe they could call the project Afterimage? :(
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They will never EVER perform as Rush with a different drummer. The closest you'll see is them guesting on a show, and eventually playing a Rush song or two.
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Alex and Geddy will never play with another drummer under the name RUSH. Will they do a one off playing RUSH songs with different drummers as a tribute? Yes. I agree with others they might so another project with musicians. I think it will not be a 3 piece band though.
Well I definitely agree with this. Maybe they could call the project Afterimage? :(
It will not be linked to anything RUSH.
They will never EVER perform as Rush with a different drummer. The closest you'll see is them guesting on a show, and eventually playing a Rush song or two.
Exactly.
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Can he still sing (seriously; a lot of those guys with the high voices have lost their edge)?
Rik can still sing but he needs to transpose the songs to different chord structures in order to even attempt to hit the high notes which he definitely struggles with. He's still a better singer than Geddy (sorry Ged, no disrespect).
He always was.
I saw Emmett on the RES9 tour back in late '16, and he still sounded excellent. There's a bunch of YT clips from shows he did in 2018, and sounds just fine to me.
I'm willing to be ok with Geddy and Alex doing some kind of performances together, but don't know what that looks like, and don't want it to be under the Rush banner, and only do Rush material as a tribute to Neil (and in limited fashion).
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Personally, I'm Ok if Alex and Geddy would never play Rush songs again, really. But I will truly miss if they never create new music again - despite Neil's influence on them, what a great songwriters they are! But, if so, totally understandable.
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No. Just no. I'd much rather just live with the music and memories of Rush, and not have anyone try to recreate it/them.
Agree 15000%
Me too.
Yeah, I'd prefer Portnoy to stay far away from Geddy and Alex. It would leave a very bitter taste I think.
Why? If it was with a couple other guys as well as MP, and it wasn't branded as Rush nor just a Rush knock-off, why would that leave a bitter taste?
I really hope they work with MP and put up some new music. I really think MP can do Rush and NP justice. :metal
I would love to see the 3 of them get together and do something, but not as Rush. In fact, with Geddy's yodeling vocals on the last couple of tours, I'd rather see him stick to playing bass and just do backing vocals, and expand to a 5-piece, with a lead vocalist and a keyboard player. IMO, that has the potential of being very interesting and not simply re-treading what they did with Rush.
I'd like a Flying Colors thing; by that I mean, Geddy doesn't sing lead, but accompanies someone else who brings some songwriting to the table too.
Exactly! :tup
Honestly, I don't see that happening, though.
Me neither - just wishful thinking on my part, but if anything were to happen, that's what I would personally wish for.
Can he still sing (seriously; a lot of those guys with the high voices have lost their edge)?
Nowhere near what he used to be able to do. I'd vote to find someone else for vocals.
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Alex and Geddy will never play with another drummer under the name RUSH. Will they do a one off playing RUSH songs with different drummers as a tribute? Yes. I agree with others they might so another project with musicians. I think it will not be a 3 piece band though.
Well I definitely agree with this. Maybe they could call the project Afterimage? :(
It will not be linked to anything RUSH.
They will never EVER perform as Rush with a different drummer. The closest you'll see is them guesting on a show, and eventually playing a Rush song or two.
Exactly.
At least Geddy -- and I think maybe also Alex -- said publicly (sometime between August 2015 and Neil's death that the two of them would never play as Rush again. It's not even a question. The way that he put it was along the lines of the following: "Will the two of us make music again? Probably. Will it be together? Maybe." Given the comments that have been made since Neil died, I'm rather skeptical that Geddy will ever do anything musical again, with the possible exception of an impromptu jam session. He seems to be perfectly happy in the roles of Bass God Emeritus, wine connoisseur and Blue Jays fan. Alex is probably more likely, but I don't think it's going to sound much of anything like Rush.
As far as MP being involved...I don't know. Even if Alex and Geddy became interested in doing something, I'm not sure MP is a good fit. Apparently, he was somewhat close with Neil, but I've never seen anything that would suggest he had any real relationship with either Geddy or Alex.
At the end of the day, I'm ok if they stay retired, if that's what makes them happy, and if they want to do something, that's fine too.
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PG, I don't know if you meant it or not, but your post sort of hints at a good point.
I proposed something that patently was NOT Rush, and wouldn't even be mistaken for Rush. I threw out Raine Maida as a sort of Canadian Casey McPherson of sorts, to bring them in a completely new direction. I don't want another singer/drummer in there to do knock-offs of what we have in abundance (in terms of live and studio recordings). But if the idea for Geddy/Alex was NO RUSH, non-negotiable, why even bother then with someone like Mike who is a Neil acolyte? They're better off going in a completely different direction and getting someone from a different school of drumming. Get Jason Bonham (I'm only half kidding here).
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Alex and Geddy will never play with another drummer under the name RUSH. Will they do a one off playing RUSH songs with different drummers as a tribute? Yes. I agree with others they might so another project with musicians. I think it will not be a 3 piece band though.
Well I definitely agree with this. Maybe they could call the project Afterimage? :(
I had a bit of a Rush day Yesterday. I read some random article about Neil that popped up on my fb feed, which was featured in Rolling Stones magazine that is very inciteful about Neil's life. Then on the way home from work I turned on the radio and Freewill was playing, after that ended I changed the station and caught the second half of Roll The Bones.
Later that evening I put in the GUP cd and skipped straight to track two which is Afterimage. There was the gnarliest windstorm of the year outside and the tall fir trees were practically sideways whipping in the wind. I opened the windows and doors to air out the house and it just brought that song to life in a completely different way, almost surreal. It just made everything hit me with a deeper impact. I continued to listen to the rest of the album.and I have a whole new appreciation for it. Geds vocals are excellent, and the drums and guitar. I also realized that I SEE RED is actually a really cool song and imagined them playing it live. The drums are amazimg!
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Can he still sing (seriously; a lot of those guys with the high voices have lost their edge)?
Rik can still sing but he needs to transpose the songs to different chord structures in order to even attempt to hit the high notes which he definitely struggles with. He's still a better singer than Geddy (sorry Ged, no disrespect).
He always was.
I saw Emmett on the RES9 tour back in late '16, and he still sounded excellent. There's a bunch of YT clips from shows he did in 2018, and sounds just fine to me.
I'm willing to be ok with Geddy and Alex doing some kind of performances together, but don't know what that looks like, and don't want it to be under the Rush banner, and only do Rush material as a tribute to Neil (and in limited fashion).
Yeah - Res9 came to Dallas and I bought the CD but I'll be damned that I can't find it. I still haven't listened to the song that JLB sang on.
I suck! :tdwn
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It's a decent album, but a completely different direction for Rik. The track with Labrie is cool!
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As far as MP being involved...I don't know. Even if Alex and Geddy became interested in doing something, I'm not sure MP is a good fit. Apparently, he was somewhat close with Neil, but I've never seen anything that would suggest he had any real relationship with either Geddy or Alex.
fwiw
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Geddy Lee to appear with Vancouver Symphony Orchestra in virtual concert (https://www.loudersound.com/news/geddy-lee-to-appear-with-vancouver-symphony-orchestra-in-virtual-concert)
Also posted in the main Rush thread, even though this thread seems to have taken its place, just to cause confusion, chaos, and hopefully even some mayhem.
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As far as MP being involved...I don't know. Even if Alex and Geddy became interested in doing something, I'm not sure MP is a good fit. Apparently, he was somewhat close with Neil, but I've never seen anything that would suggest he had any real relationship with either Geddy or Alex.
fwiw
Sure...but a couple M&G photos aren't the same as having a relationship beyond that of folks who are in the same profession.
Geddy Lee to appear with Vancouver Symphony Orchestra in virtual concert (https://www.loudersound.com/news/geddy-lee-to-appear-with-vancouver-symphony-orchestra-in-virtual-concert)
I'm intrigued, but it costs CD$100 (about US$78.50) and it's "unclear quite what Lee will be doing at the show."
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As far as MP being involved...I don't know. Even if Alex and Geddy became interested in doing something, I'm not sure MP is a good fit. Apparently, he was somewhat close with Neil, but I've never seen anything that would suggest he had any real relationship with either Geddy or Alex.
fwiw
Sure...but a couple M&G photos aren't the same as having a relationship beyond that of folks who are in the same profession.
Geddy Lee to appear with Vancouver Symphony Orchestra in virtual concert (https://www.loudersound.com/news/geddy-lee-to-appear-with-vancouver-symphony-orchestra-in-virtual-concert)
Right?
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No penguin dive pictures Rodrigo? :lol
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No penguin dive pictures Rodrigo? :lol
Penguin dive?
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I think if Geddy and Alex were gonna do something post-Rush, they would have by now. It has been 5 1/2 years, after all, and they are not getting any younger (both are just a few years shy of 70). Factor in Alex's arthritis, which bothered him on the R40 tour and doesn't exactly get better as you get older, along with the health issues he had last year (per the article), and I just don't see it.
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No penguin dive pictures Rodrigo? :lol
Penguin dive?
Yeah, swimming in the ocean recently. lol
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No penguin dive pictures Rodrigo? :lol
Penguin dive?
Yeah, swimming in the ocean recently. lol
I can send you more picture of me at Lake Ontario on the first week of January...but Geddy wasn't there!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Lolol. That was very cold I bet.
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As far as MP being involved...I don't know. Even if Alex and Geddy became interested in doing something, I'm not sure MP is a good fit. Apparently, he was somewhat close with Neil, but I've never seen anything that would suggest he had any real relationship with either Geddy or Alex.
fwiw
Sure...but a couple M&G photos aren't the same as having a relationship beyond that of folks who are in the same profession.
Before he got tight with Neil, I know that MP had been in e-mail contact with Alex. To what degree he has maintained that connection or with Geddy for that matter, I don't know. But it was more than just a connection at M&Gs.
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Neil for me was, and really still is, the only true celebrity "hero," if you will, that I have ever had. I didn't idolize him the way he so abhorred; I didn't worship him or feel he owed me some sort of attention simply because I was a fan. I looked up to him in many ways, whether it was his drumming, his writing, or simply his class and personal dignity. His strength when Selena and Jackie (first daughter and wife) passed, even in his grief, was something I couldn't/can't imagine. I would have probably gone over the edge, but he found the strength through the "healing road" as he called it. He wasn't just an awesome musician or amazing writer; almost every single person who was fortunate enough to know him called him a simply great person.
With the brotherhood that exists within the Rush fanbase, I think a lot of us didn't just feel like we lost a band member we loved. We felt like we lost a piece of our family, albeit very far extended and separated through fanship. I have never been truly heartbroken over a celebrity death before him, but this truly affected me, and still does. One of the single most important icons of my life died, and it hits very hard and very deep. He was one-of-a-kind to a lot of us because his contributions added to our lives, not just to our music. At least, that is how I feel.
Another thing I keep returning to in my mind, and this is true regardless of it being a year on now, is the fact that Geddy and Alex had to keep it hidden through all of those interviews over the years of his illness (this is briefly alluded to in the RS article). I cannot imagine how they must have felt inside whenever they were asked "is there a chance for a reunion show" or "will Neil ever agree to play one more show?" To know the real truth, not just that Neil was retired but that he was, in fact, dying, and having to act like the questions, which were innocuous enough given that no one else knew the circumstances, didn't stab them in the hearts every single time must have been excruciating.
Unlike some, I took to listening to Rush almost constantly after he passed. I didn't feel the grief in listening to the music; the music helped me find solace because it is what we have left. The fact that his contributions will live on as they will is a great comfort to me. We will always have the music, the words, the videos, and the memories.
He was the total package though I never consider him a celebrity, just an inspiration for humanity.
Still sad, but didn't do anything really special other than to crack open a hard cider and listen to After The Fire by Roger Daltrey on the Friday before last.
Don't be said it's over. Be glad it happened.
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An awesome article and tribute to Neil from (surprisingly) Rolling Stone. Shame that RS didn't give Rush their due for so many years until Rush finally became "cool"...
Geddy's quote about how Neil didn't get to ever really enjoy what he fought so hard for (retirement) cut deep as well. Geddy, more than probably anyone along with Alex, knew damn well that Neil wasn't a fan of touring since, what, the late 80's? But he accepted it as part of being in a band and persisted with it until 2015. And when he finally got to hang it up for good, he was gone less than five years later. :( :(
It’s a testament to how selfless he was. Even at the end he had so many good reasons not to (his young daughter, his own health issues), but he did that last tour for Alex who wanted to do one more before his arthritis made it impossible.
Yeah, that's a bitter pill to swallow (that Neil didn't really get to enjoy his retirement for very long), but it really does speak for the kind of selfless person he was.
What I found a bit surprising is the report that at the beginning of the R40 tour, Neil seemed open to doing even more shows than the initial run, and that it seems that it was his health ailments (especially the infection in his foot) that changed his mind. Given his disappointment in leaving Olivia, I wouldn't have expected him to do more shows than the initially planned run under any circumstances. So at least early on, he must have really been enjoying the shows to entertain that thought.
Shame he got that infection, but it was probably for the best, considering how his life ended up getting cut short not long after retiring. Imagine if they would've extended the tour to hit Europe and maybe South America, and then maybe another run through North America. That would mean several more months that he would've been on the road, away from his family, and then to come home and maybe have a few months before he starts realizing that something's wrong? That would have been even more tragic than what happened.
I don't know the guy, never met the guy, and haven't read the article yet, but this doesn't strike me as clearly black and white. He was a working musician. Sure he loved his family, his wife and child, but he loved his friends and his instrument and his art, too. I see this less as a grand gesture than simply the complicated choice of a man who put a lot of thought and contemplation into the things he did (just as admirable, in my view).
I completely see it as a grand gesture. He then went all-in because that's who Neil was. (From the outside looking in obviously.) He lays it out in his book and the Time Stand Still documentary spends a little time on his decision was well.
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Amazing drum cam footage
https://youtu.be/l3T-9wCVQPw?t=1
Believe that's from the Taking Center Stage DVD with footage from the Time Machine Tour.
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Rush was my one "never miss." I found a way to see at least one show per tour from 1994 onward, and that amounted to 12 shows. Having read what I had read, I knew in my heart that was going to be the last time I saw them live, but there was also a faint kindling that at some point down the line, maybe the boys would get together for a one-off, maybe in NYC or something. I would have absolutely invested in going to that. This time last year, amidst it all, one of the things I felt was immensely fortunate to have been to able to see and witness and enjoy all that I had, and gratitude that the band had been so gracious to share the majority of their lives with thousands (millions?) of people they would never know.
Rush, and Neil, were something undeniably special to those who loved them. It's this one universal good, for me. There was always Rush, and there is always the music. That will never die.
Very well said.
At least once a US leg since 1986. As I often say, an embarrassment of riches.
May not listen to them every day, but they are are in my head forever.
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I saw every tour from 1984 (GUP Tour) to R40. 31 in all and 3 opening shows of 3 different tours.
Power Windows
Vapor Trails (Emotional night)
Clockwork Angels
Fortunate to see two openers myself.
Test For Echo
Vapor Trails
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Available Light is one of my all time favorite Rush tunes.
On my bucket list.
Killer song.
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I didn't say Power Windows. You said Power Windows. ;D
He's got a point.
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Getting soft in your old age Tim. :lol
Aren't we all?
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No. Just no. I'd much rather just live with the music and memories of Rush, and not have anyone try to recreate it/them.
Agree 15000%
Cubed.
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I think one thing we tend to overlook is the emotional tie both Geddy and Alex have to the material with Neil. It wasn't like they were Geddy's songs, or Alex's, that the guys then recorded and played. Every song, with minute exceptions, was a living embodiment of equal contributions, and is made up of equal parts of all three of them. For 2/3 of the band to play without that final third I think would feel wrong to the two of them, forgetting entirely what we as fans might think. 41 years making music as a group with the same guys....it would be like sharing a time-honored family tradition with some new guy you happen to know. I don't see Geddy and Alex doing it. For them to play Rush without looking back and seeing Neil, I think would hurt them more than please them.
That's my take at least. If they collaborate on different music, that would be something else entirely.
I am also a purist, who feels Rush without all three boys simply isn't Rush, and never would be.
It would be like Geddy and Alex playing Closer To The Heart with Phil Ehart of Kansas....
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Geddy Lee to appear with Vancouver Symphony Orchestra in virtual concert (https://www.loudersound.com/news/geddy-lee-to-appear-with-vancouver-symphony-orchestra-in-virtual-concert)
Also posted in the main Rush thread, even though this thread seems to have taken its place, just to cause confusion, chaos, and hopefully even some mayhem.
It's a virtual thing. He's not appearing there and it may not be musical thing but just a supportive thing for the arts.
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill. I stumbled across a good bootleg shot of a show from that tour and had forgotten that they played all of Freewill until the solo section and then as soon as that part ends, they immediately went into Distant Early Warning. Very odd. Freewill hadn't been played in nearly a decade, and they finally bust it back out and play all of it except the last minute and a half. Maybe Geddy didn't feel his voice was in the best shape at the time to attempt the "Each of us..." vocal section every night, but it just felt like an odd way to do it.
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill. I stumbled across a good bootleg shot of a show from that tour and had forgotten that they played all of Freewill until the solo section and then as soon as that part ends, they immediately went into Distant Early Warning. Very odd. Freewill hadn't been played in nearly a decade, and they finally bust it back out and play all of it except the last minute and a half. Maybe Geddy didn't feel his voice was in the best shape at the time to attempt the "Each of us..." vocal section every night, but it just felt like an odd way to do it.
Not gonna lie. I’ve heard Free Will who knows how many times, but I’ve never bothered to look at the lyrics and I have no idea what Geddy sings during that passage after “Each of us.”
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"A cell of awareness
imperfect and incomplete"
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As many Rush passages as there are that I sign along to in my car and whatnot, that is one I never attempt. :lol :lol
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"A cell of awareness
imperfect and incomplete"
Ha, I never would have gotten “a cell of awareness.”
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I did get "incomplete", though.
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I've always heard it as "A SOUND of awareness" lol.
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I grew up in an era where you went and bought an album and awed over the artwork and especially with Rush, read the lyrics along with the song. Some people read the lyrics and then listen to the song which I kind of find strange but I am of a different generation.
I do have my share of misunderstanding lyrics or sounds. For instance, the beginning of the Beatles "Come Together" I thought they were saying "shit" and I always thought "how can they get away with that over the radio"? :lol
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"A cell of awareness
imperfect and incomplete"
And in the chorus, it's "If you choose not to decide, you cannot have made a choice." :P
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"A cell of awareness
imperfect and incomplete"
And in the chorus, it's "If you choose not to decide, you cannot have made a choice." :P
:lol :lol
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill.
The thing that I never understood on that tour was the version of Subdivisions that they did. It started with the drums rhythmically pounding out the keyboard melody (which I thought was super cool) but then they completely skipped the second verse! The one thing that was great about that tour was that it seemed to be the first tour in a long time where they actually extended some of the instrumental sections of the songs, instead of just playing them exactly as the studio versions, which I welcomed. I remember they stretched out Dreamline, Bravado and Where's My Thing. And they also jammed out the brief excerpt of Red Barchetta that appeared in the closing medley encore.
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill.
The thing that I never understood on that tour was the version of Subdivisions that they did. It started with the drums rhythmically pounding out the keyboard melody (which I thought was super cool) but then they completely skipped the second verse! The one thing that was great about that tour was that it seemed to be the first tour in a long time where they actually extended some of the instrumental sections of the songs, instead of just playing them exactly as the studio versions, which I welcomed. I remember they stretched out Dreamline, Bravado and Where's My Thing. And they also jammed out the brief excerpt of Red Barchetta that appeared in the closing medley encore.
I guess back in the days when they still took out a supporting act, they had to be more creative to fit more of the demanded hits into the set list while also playing the new material.
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The RTB Tour definitely stands out to me as being different than most of their tours around that time, which had mostly static setlists, even between different tour legs. The show swapped out, I believe, three songs in between tour legs, and even the encore medley changed up a bit as they went along. That tour was definitely a sign that they started to get a bit loose with their shows more and more, though they were beginning to do that a long time before hand, like extending the ending jam of CTTH back on the GUP tour.
It's weird, then, that for the CP Tour, they went back to a nearly static setlist for the whole run. Then again, they did play 6 new songs on that tour, so maybe they decided a static setlist was better just to try and play more of their new material.
I do recall the truncated versions of "Freewill" and "Subdivisions" played on that tour, though, and always thought that was a bit odd, but I guess they wanted to cram in as many songs as possible on that tour, with 27 songs being played (either in part or entirely) across all legs of the tour (not counting the "Cygnus X-1" teaser used at the end of the encore). Compare that to the 22 songs on the Presto/HYF/CP tours.
-Marc.
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I wish there was a great-sounding, official live version of Where's My Thing from the Roll the Bones tour. I love the original, but live it was even better. The live version from the Clockwork Angels was good, but inexplicably buried that exotic melody during each chorus to where you barely even hear it, and I don't want 3-4 minutes of a drum solo every time I listen to the song, so that version is less than ideal for me.
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I wish there was a great-sounding, official live version of Where's My Thing from the Roll the Bones tour. I love the original, but live it was even better. The live version from the Clockwork Angels was good, but inexplicably buried that exotic melody during each chorus to where you barely even hear it, and I don't want 3-4 minutes of a drum solo every time I listen to the song, so that version is less than ideal for me.
Statements like that are why I built my own Complete Live Tours "box set", compiling the best live show bootlegs for every tour we never got an official release of, including the RTB Tour. Thankfully, by the late 80s and 90s, there were plenty of really good (A-A+) Soundboard Bootlegs of many shows from each tour. The January 30th, 1992 Oakland, CA soundboard is what I used my the basis for my RTB show, and it's one of the better sounding soundboard boots I've heard. I even tossed in 3 bonus tracks from the June 14th, 1992 show at Charlotte, NC, since they swapped out some songs for the second leg of the tour.
I highly doubt we'll ever see Geddy/Alex go back through their archives and give us soundboards in an official manner. I still think it was a miracle that we got the full AFTK London Show from the AFTK Anniversary set snce it's original truncated release from Different Stages was one of my favorite live shows ever (and I always found myself revisiting that third disc way more often than the first two). I still wish they had released a full live Hemispheres show for the Hemispheres Anniversary set instead of the incomplete Pinkpop show, especially since there are a few really good soundboards from the Hemispheres tour out there.
-Marc.
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill.
The thing that I never understood on that tour was the version of Subdivisions that they did. It started with the drums rhythmically pounding out the keyboard melody (which I thought was super cool) but then they completely skipped the second verse! The one thing that was great about that tour was that it seemed to be the first tour in a long time where they actually extended some of the instrumental sections of the songs, instead of just playing them exactly as the studio versions, which I welcomed. I remember they stretched out Dreamline, Bravado and Where's My Thing. And they also jammed out the brief excerpt of Red Barchetta that appeared in the closing medley encore.
I vaguely remember that from seeing it live, but are there any official live version of that version of Subdivisions out there?
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill.
The thing that I never understood on that tour was the version of Subdivisions that they did. It started with the drums rhythmically pounding out the keyboard melody (which I thought was super cool) but then they completely skipped the second verse! The one thing that was great about that tour was that it seemed to be the first tour in a long time where they actually extended some of the instrumental sections of the songs, instead of just playing them exactly as the studio versions, which I welcomed. I remember they stretched out Dreamline, Bravado and Where's My Thing. And they also jammed out the brief excerpt of Red Barchetta that appeared in the closing medley encore.
I vaguely remember that from seeing it live, but are there any official live version of that version of Subdivisions out there?
Officially? No, but there are some audience video recordings on YouTube. Just search "Rush live 1992 Subdivisions" and there should be some results. I'm watching one from the Albany, NY show right now.
-Marc.
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There's actually at least a few great sounding soundboard recordings from the RtB tour. In particular, I remember a show they did at MSG in NYC in December was really great sounding. There's also Oakland from January, but I think that recording runs a bit slow and the sound quality isn't quite as good. And I think there's a couple others out there too, but those are the first ones that come to mind. Since there's nothing official released, they do a nice job of filling in.
As for them swapping out songs, they really didn't do too much of that on the RtB tour - I think on the last (summer 92) run through North America, they dropped Subdivisions and The Pass in favor of Vital Signs, Analog Kid and The Trees. While Vital Signs has never been one of my favorite songs of theirs, Alex added a cool guitar solo to the end of it for that tour. Unfortunately there's no complete soundboards from that leg of the tour, although I think there might be a soundboard from Charlotte. I particularly remember an audience silver bootleg I had called Cold Flame (released before Counterparts was released) that was a good sounding audience recording of the Jones Beach show, and I just loved the performance of Vital Signs at that show.
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I've got the Oakland show on tape. That one circulated a lot when I was collecting bootlegs regularly back in the 90's. I don't recall it being amazing sounding or anything, but it was usually the easiest to find from that tour.
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Just did a quickie search on YouTube and came across the Charlotte show - I could swear that the copy I had in my collection years ago was missing the encore and maybe more, but it seems that this Gypsy Eye version is complete:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RupNCPVAJg
And here's the MSG show I was speaking about, which funny enough *is* missing the encore, although I'm positive the version I had was complete - go figure! Anyhoo, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-mr0SIQ2dk
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And here's the MSG show I was speaking about, which funny enough *is* missing the encore, although I'm positive the version I had was complete - go figure! Anyhoo, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-mr0SIQ2dk
Ohh, that is a great version of Where's My Thing, and thanks to the wonders of youtube to mp3 and Audacity, I have now a nice mp3 of it. That will be my go-to version of that song now for the time being. Thanks for posting that! :coolio :coolio
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I just listened to Time Stand Stll, Dreamline, and Bravado from that recording. Very nice! :coolio
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Looking back at the set lists over the years, it's great to see again how much Dreamline was played; 8 out of the 10 tours from 1991 till 2015. I would say that is easily their most classic post-80's song. And it was always awesome live.
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It's a great song on an otherwise sucky album.
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Roll the Bones is a flawed album, but I love it nonetheless, and will defend it to my last breath. :biggrin:
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Roll the Bones is a flawed album, but I love it nonetheless, and will defend it to my last breath. :biggrin:
One song that catches a lot of flack is You Bet Your Life, but I love that song. And obviously Ghost Of A Chance is amazing.
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Roll the Bones is one of my least favorite Rush albums as well, but Dreamline, Bravado, and Ghost of a Chance are outstanding songs (and I also like the title track, rap and all).
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
How did I know you’d say that!
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Roll The Bones, on a whole, was such a let down. I loved the style and mood of Presto. It was different, but it just felt like it had a certain dignity to it. I never felt that Roll The Bones, save for a handful of tracks, had that.
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Man, I always had a soft spot for Roll the Bones. It has its problems but I think it has charm.
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Roll The Bones, on a whole, was such a let down. I loved the style and mood of Presto. It was different, but it just felt like it had a certain dignity to it. I never felt that Roll The Bones, save for a handful of tracks, had that.
Roll the Bones is a lot like Hold Your Fire for me. Tries to follow a similar formula as the preceding album but falling well short in the songwriting department (though both do have some great songs).
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Yeah, but Roll The Bones followed a good album..
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
This has to be one of the worst posts ever recorded.
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
This has to be one of the worst posts ever recorded.
:lol
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
This has to be one of the worst posts ever recorded.
They should've called it Blowhardo.
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
This has to be one of the worst posts ever recorded.
They should've called it Blowhardo.
:rollin
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Liking You Bet Your Life a lot and dogging Bravado would be like if a DT fan talked about how great Constant Motion was and then referred to The Spirit Carries On as trash.
And I don't mind You Bet Your Life, but let's be serious. :lol :lol
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Well, I do like Anthrax more than I like Pink Floyd, so there's that..
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
You are officially on the concussion protocol.
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Reading your's and Kev's posts have given me a concussion. :lol
Good night all!
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Damn, I thought my posts usually just gave people nausea. ;)
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That's Tim's concussion talking.
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Roll the Bones is a tale of two halves for me. Love the first half. Dreamline is a driving monster of a song, the instrumental is cool, and yes, I even really like Face Up (not sure why it gets so much flak. The lyrics are a little subpar, but it’s not the terrible song a lot make it out to be).
Then as soon as The Big Wheel starts, the energy takes a massive nosedive. Ghost of a Chance is really the only song on the second side that I quite like, though the background chorus in You Bet Your Life is kinda fun. But Heresy? Meh. Neurotica? See ya. Big Wheel? Easily my least favorite on the album.
Thank God Counterparts was a step back in the right direction.
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Face Up doesn't stand out, but it's a fun little tune that works well where it is on the record.
Ghost of a Chance is the obvious standout of Side 2, but I like both Heresy and The Big Wheel a lot. Neurotica and You Bet Your Life both have major flaws, but I don't mind either, and I can enjoy both as the final two songs when giving the record a full spin.
But yeah, for as much as I love Roll the Bones, Counterparts was an overall upgrade.
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I too will defend Roll the Bones. It was the very first album I bought with my own money, so it holds a special place in my music library, and played the crap out of it. It has some flaws, but I still love it.
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I pretty much agree with the fact that the first half of RtB is superior. Dreamline is a top 10 Rush song for me. Bravado is great and the title track is fun. Ghost of a Chance is the standout in the second half for sure.
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Alex's solo on Ghost is bloody awesome.
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Looking back at the set lists over the years, it's great to see again how much Dreamline was played; 8 out of the 10 tours from 1991 till 2015. I would say that is easily their most classic post-80's song. And it was always awesome live.
Oh man, especially on the VT and R30 tours. That song just smoked live, and those lasers! :hat
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
This has to be one of the worst posts ever recorded.
They should've called it Blowhardo.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Alex's solo on Ghost is bloody awesome.
So good. Really one of my favorite Alex moments in the catalog.
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The Big Wheel has a strong chorus, but I don’t love the verses. It’s one of the better songs on the second half though.
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Alex's solo on Ghost is bloody awesome.
So good. Really one of my favorite Alex moments in the catalog.
Also is his demo solo. He couldn't recreate the magic of that solo from the studio so they used his demo solo for the song.
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Roll the Bones is a flawed album, but I love it nonetheless, and will defend it to my last breath. :biggrin:
One song that catches a lot of flack is You Bet Your Life, but I love that song.
:hifive:
Though, I also enjoy Heresy, and think Ghost of a Chance is in the bottom half of the album.
:ontome:
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I'm not a big Heresy fan. I do love The Big Wheel.
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Liking You Bet Your Life a lot and dogging Bravado would be like if a DT fan talked about how great Constant Motion was and then referred to The Spirit Carries On as trash.
And I don't mind You Bet Your Life, but let's be serious. :lol :lol
In all seriousness Constant Motion is a much better song that Spirit Carries on.
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I'm not a big Heresy fan.
Yeah, Lindt is much better.
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I'm not a big Heresy fan.
Yeah, Lindt is much better.
I like those little balls with the cream inside.
Uh.... phrasing.
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Especially the dark ones. ;D
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I'm not a big Heresy fan. I do love The Big Wheel.
I like Heresy. Good melodies, and it's also kind of an answer to Scorpions "Wind of Change" lyrically.
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Yeah, but Roll The Bones followed a good album..
From my mind to your keyboard. Thanks for taking the heat, Tim.
The Big Wheel has a strong chorus, but I don’t love the verses. It’s one of the better songs on the second half though.
For me, The Big Wheel is probably the only song on RTB that I would intentionally listen to. Dreamline is fine but nothing special. Bravado is blah. The title track is better ignored. Face Up? No. Where's My Thing? is ok. I can't really remember heresy. Ghost of a Chance has a couple moments. Neurotica and particularly You Bet Your Life are two of the worst choruses in Rush's catalog. RtB is pretty easily album #19 of 19 in Rush's catalog.
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Blahvado!
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You will pay the price Tim. :lol
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You will pay the price Tim. :lol
But I will not count the cost.
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You certainly don't LOL BTW, I think Neurotica's chorus is not good at all. I love the bridge to the solo but that song is a dud.
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
Show us the hits you wrote.
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Alex's solo on Ghost is bloody awesome.
So good. Really one of my favorite Alex moments in the catalog.
Also is his demo solo. He couldn't recreate the magic of that solo from the studio so they used his demo solo for the song.
Wow, I didn't know that, incredible.
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
Show us the hits you wrote.
Yes because I must write hits to to criticize an already much-criticized album.
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
Show us the hits you wrote.
Yes because I must write hits to to criticize an already much-criticized album.
Yes, where are they?
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
Show us the hits you wrote.
Yes because I must write hits to to criticize an already much-criticized album.
Yes, where are they?
::)...maybe go bother one of the other people in this thread also trashing RtB? They might be interested in playing along with you
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Rodrigo is defensive today! :lol
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
Show us the hits you wrote.
Yes because I must write hits to to criticize an already much-criticized album.
Yes, where are they?
::)...maybe go bother one of the other people in this thread also trashing RtB? They might be interested in playing along with you
:lol :lol
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
Show us the hits you wrote.
Yes because I must write hits to to criticize an already much-criticized album.
Yes, where are they?
::)...maybe go bother one of the other people in this thread also trashing RtB? They might be interested in playing along with you
No man, I wanna bother you. Where are those hits? I have all the time in the world.
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I always loved Tom Sawyer when I was a kid but it wasn’t until I heard Ghost of a Chance that I decided to buy my first Rush album, so Roll the Bones is where I officially started with Rush. At the time I thought it was okay, loved Ghost of a Chance, Dreamline and the instrumental, the rest didn’t really wow me. After going through their catalog afterwards and then going back to RTB it was clear to me RTB was rather inferior to most everything else.
I popped it in the CD player for a road trip recently and was really stunned how much I didn’t like some of the songs.
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Surprised to see so much affection for The Big Wheel and it's awful, cringy chorus ("looking for LURRRV"). This album has so many terrible moments that it actually circles back around to being enjoyable to listen to purely to hear all the bad songwriting decisions.
Show us the hits you wrote.
Yes because I must write hits to to criticize an already much-criticized album.
Yes, where are they?
::)...maybe go bother one of the other people in this thread also trashing RtB? They might be interested in playing along with you
No man, I wanna bother you. Where are those hits? I have all the time in the world.
:corn
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Rush’s all time top 5 worst songs are ALL on Roll the Bones.
But Bravado is not one of them. That song is bloody brilliant!
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Rush’s all time top 5 worst songs are ALL on Roll the Bones.
But Bravado is not one of them. That song is bloody brilliant!
Say what? So what are the 5 worst songs?
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Gonna guess;
Face Up
Heresy
Big Wheel
Neurotica
You Bet Your Life
?
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Yeah, no. I could see Heresy & Neurotica. The others not in the bottom 5.
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Rush’s all time top 5 worst songs are ALL on Roll the Bones.
No.
Need Some Love is on the self-titled debut.
Red Lenses is on GUP.
Mystic Rhythms is on Power Windows.
Tai Shan is on Hold Your Fire
Hand over Fist and Scars are on Presto
RTB is the worst album, but none of the songs on it are as bad as those songs (and a few others). RTB is just consistently blah, while other albums have great moments to counterbalance those stinking duds.
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Mystic Rhythms? :lol no fucking way.
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Anyone list of the worst 5 Rush songs that doesn't include Time and Motion and Rivendell is invalid.
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Mystic Rhythms? :lol no fucking way.
Seconded.
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Anyone list of the worst 5 Rush songs that doesn't include Time and Motion and Rivendell is invalid.
Time And Motion is awesome, troll.
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Anyone list of the worst 5 Rush songs that doesn't include Time and Motion and Rivendell is invalid.
Time And Motion is awesome, troll.
Wait, so Time and Motion and You Bet Your Life are great, but most of Power Windows, The Pass and Bravado all suck?
Maybe it's time to go see a doctor about that concussion. :lol :lol
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...and a sudden bout of nausea. ;D
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...and a sudden bout of nausea. ;D
Lack of air to the brain.
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Mystic Rhythms? :lol no fucking way.
Seconded.
Thirded.
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What's funny is even the band figured out quickly that Time and Motion sucked. I guess they convinced themselves that it was worth playing live at the start of the TFE tour, but it was demoted in the set list after one show to being a rotating song and then was chucked for good shortly thereafter. Has any other song in their catalogue ever been ditched so quickly on its first tour and then never brought back?
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Rush’s all time top 5 worst songs are ALL on Roll the Bones.
But Bravado is not one of them. That song is bloody brilliant!
Wait, last I checked Stupidconductor isn't on Roll the Bones. :biggrin:
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It sounds like it should be.
..not sure why I'm in the Rush thread when I should be worring about the AC/DC one.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, actually.
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Heh, I don’t like Time and Motion either. Though it’s not in their 5 worst songs for me probably.
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While I'd say that Rush certainly has better albums, I still like Roll the Bones. Agree with those who prefer the first half, but I still listen to the whole thing and enjoy it. Bravado is pretty awesome though.
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"Tough Break" Demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EMfV3aA-U
We were getting a little bored with inactivity. During the mixing
of "Exit... Stage Left" there was really not much for us to do except
say "it sounds good" or "it doesn't sound good".
I had been working down in the little studio, cleaning and renovating
an old set of Hayman drums that were kicking around, and had started working on a "Jack Secret" song with Jack and Skip from the crew. Geddy and Alex soon joined in on keyboards and rhythm guitar, and we later recorded the song ("Tough Break") up in the studio. ...
- Neil Peart
This song is the bonus track by "the fab pros" on the bootleg Power Run.
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"Tough Break" Demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EMfV3aA-U
We were getting a little bored with inactivity. During the mixing
of "Exit... Stage Left" there was really not much for us to do except
say "it sounds good" or "it doesn't sound good".
I had been working down in the little studio, cleaning and renovating
an old set of Hayman drums that were kicking around, and had started working on a "Jack Secret" song with Jack and Skip from the crew. Geddy and Alex soon joined in on keyboards and rhythm guitar, and we later recorded the song ("Tough Break") up in the studio. ...
- Neil Peart
This song is the bonus track by "the fab pros" on the bootleg Power Run.
Who is that singing?
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Tony Geranios - AKA Jack Secret. Roadie for Rush for decades.
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Anyone list of the worst 5 Rush songs that doesn't include Time and Motion and Rivendell is invalid.
I wouldn't put T&M on a "worst" list, but neither will I argue with you. As for Rivendell...welll...they meant well, I suppose. Every time I listen to FBN, I just can't bring myself to listen to Rivendell.
Rush’s all time top 5 worst songs are ALL on Roll the Bones.
But Bravado is not one of them. That song is bloody brilliant!
Wait, last I checked Stupidconductor isn't on Roll the Bones. :biggrin:
Yep. That too. That's the thing about Presto: it has Scars, Hand over Fist and Stupidconductor but still manages to be light years better than the albums on either side of it.
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That’d be an interesting topic for discussion - Bottom 5 Rush songs. I’d expect a lot of disagreement in opinions, really. My list would probably include in no particular order:
I Think I’m Going Bald
Madrigal
Chemistry
Spindrift
The Necromancer
Honorable mentions to Tai Shan, The Big Wheel, Fountain of Lamneth, and Workin’ Them Angels. I know I left out any debut album song, but I’m considering the massive improvement that took place on Fly By Night once Peart joined. I do appreciate the debut for what it is, but it’s just not really “Rush” to me.
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Good game. For me:
Rivendell
Madrigal
Face Up
Spindrift
Halo Effect
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That’d be an interesting topic for discussion - Bottom 5 Rush songs. I’d expect a lot of disagreement in opinions, really. My list would probably include in no particular order:
I Think I’m Going Bald
Madrigal
Chemistry
Spindrift
The Necromancer
Honorable mentions to Tai Shan, The Big Wheel, Fountain of Lamneth, and Workin’ Them Angels. I know I left out any debut album song, but I’m considering the massive improvement that took place on Fly By Night once Peart joined. I do appreciate the debut for what it is, but it’s just not really “Rush” to me.
OK - we gonna fight over Chemistry. >:(
I love the intro and the guitar riff right before he comes in with "signal transmitted, message received". That's just brilliant call and response from the guitar and lyrics. :metal
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The Speed Of Love has to be in that list.
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I'll play:
Rush: Greatest Shits:
I Think I'm Going Bald
Lakeside Park
Red Lenses
Kid Gloves
Virtuality
Bonus Tracks/B-Sides:
Neurotica
Nobody's Hero
Vital Signs
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That’d be an interesting topic for discussion - Bottom 5 Rush songs. I’d expect a lot of disagreement in opinions, really. My list would probably include in no particular order:
I Think I’m Going Bald
Madrigal
Chemistry
Spindrift
The Necromancer
Honorable mentions to Tai Shan, The Big Wheel, Fountain of Lamneth, and Workin’ Them Angels. I know I left out any debut album song, but I’m considering the massive improvement that took place on Fly By Night once Peart joined. I do appreciate the debut for what it is, but it’s just not really “Rush” to me.
OK - we gonna fight over Chemistry. >:(
I love the intro and the guitar riff right before he comes in with "signal transmitted, message received". That's just brilliant call and response from the guitar and lyrics. :metal
Yeah, I love Chemistry.
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I'll play:
Rush: Greatest Shits:
I Think I'm Going Bald
Lakeside Park
Red Lenses
Kid Gloves
Virtuality
Bonus Tracks/B-Sides:
Neurotica
Nobody's Hero
Vital Signs
Whatcha talkin' about Willis?
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Hmmm...
It would be something from this list:
Need Some Love
Take a Friend
Rivendell
I Think I'm Going Bald
The Body Electric
Red Lenses
Mystic Rhythms
Tai Shan
Scars
Hand over Fist
Roll the Bones
Neurotica
You Bet Your Life
Between Sun & Moon
Dog Years
Carve Away the Stone
Secret Touch
There are probably a couple from S&A and CA, but I only really know the songs I like on those albums.
Songs like Madrigal, Chemistry and Vital Signs belong nowhere near this list. While Madrigal is nothing special and gets dwarfed by the other songs on masterful album, it's not a bad song by any means (sort of like Different Strings).
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Second Nature is the most obvious candidate for worst Rush song in my book. Tai Shan is also probably on that worst 5 list.
Cygnus X-1 might be on the list. Spindrift is a good candidate. Face Up or Heresy maybe. I’ve never heard the self-titled album so those might all be on the list I guess.
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Playing along:
Roll the Bones
Workin' Them Angels
Tai Shan
High Water
Earthshine
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Seriously, why don’t more people hate Second Nature?
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Seriously, why don’t more people hate Second Nature?
It ALMOST made my list. Sappy!!!
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If I see anyone put Open Secrets on their list, all hell is gonna break loose! :lol
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Second Nature is the most obvious candidate for worst Rush song in my book. Tai Shan is also probably on that worst 5 list.
Cygnus X-1 might be on the list. Spindrift is a good candidate. Face Up or Heresy maybe. I’ve never heard the self-titled album so those might all be on the list I guess.
Second Nature would make my... top 20, 25 BEST songs. I love that chorus... 'It ought to be second nature... at least that's what I feel". Love it; I think it's a beautiful, beautiful song.
I don't get the hate for Tai Shan. It's just not that bad. I can't escape the idea that "Well, Geddy and Alex don't like it, so I guess I have to not like it...." I know that's not fair, but it's how I feel. It's certainly not out of place on Hold Your Fire (and I happen to love Hold Your Fire; I love that keyboard sound Geddy got on that record, and there are REAL DRUMS.)
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Second Nature is the most obvious candidate for worst Rush song in my book. Tai Shan is also probably on that worst 5 list.
Cygnus X-1 might be on the list. Spindrift is a good candidate. Face Up or Heresy maybe. I’ve never heard the self-titled album so those might all be on the list I guess.
Ummmm...WHAT? Not sure which Book you're talking about, but both are far more likely to show up in a TOP 10 list than a bottom anything list.
As far as Second Nature and Open Secrets, they're both pretty blah (as is most of HYF outside of Time Stand Still and Mission), but they're not really "bad" and certainly not hate-worthy.
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Nobody's Hero
Vital Signs
Whatcha talkin' about Willis?
I think the lyrics for Nobody's Hero sound... forced. One of the great things about Rush is how they so deftly integrated Neil's words into the song. There are almost no examples of cramming words in, or oddly phrased meters to make the lyrics work. Except here; it feels like some of the lyrics are shoe-horned in, and because some of the lyrics are a bit... treacly, it just makes that more obvious.
Vital Signs isn't that bad, but it sticks out on what is otherwise a stellar album. It's sort of a sore thumb.
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OK - we gonna fight over Chemistry. >:(
I love the intro and the guitar riff right before he comes in with "signal transmitted, message received". That's just brilliant call and response from the guitar and lyrics. :metal
I figured that this would gather someone’s ire as it seems to be a more liked song than others. And while that riff you speak of is a good display of some guitar skills, it’s not nearly enough to save the song for me from its lackluster verses, boring chorus, subpar lyrics, and mediocre solo. The abrupt end also doesn’t do it any favors as it feels like they couldn’t find any other way to close it out. It’s just a song that fails to connect with me on just about every level. But that’s also coming from someone who, aside from Subdivisions, Losing It, and Analog Kid, considers Signals as a whole to be a very tepid album. So take that for what it’s worth.
Not surprised to see Hold Your Fire songs come into play. Tai Shan isn’t a bad song, but it’s just so out of place for Rush that it doesn’t feel like it came from them. High Water is one I do like, but it’s just so mellow that closing the album with those two tracks feels quite anticlimactic. Other than that, I do like Hold Your Fire a lot, though it really took me a looooooooonnnnnng time to get it to click.
Putting Earthshine and Cygnus X-1 on this list though? I think I felt my blood pressure rise a little, though I’m not one to get too worked up on things like this. It’s all just a matter of taste in the end. :)
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Seriously, why don’t more people hate Second Nature?
It's for sure in my bottom 5 Rush songs. The bridge section is its only redeeming factor, but the rest of the track is just a heaping helping of bland cheese that you'd hear in a medications commercial.
So my bottom 5 might shake out something like this:
Second Nature
Heresy
Dog Years
The Stars Look Down
Faithless
The inclusion of Red Lenses on some people's lists is enough to relegate said lists to the "Bottom 5 'Bottom 5 Rush Songs' Lists".
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Nobody's Hero
Vital Signs
Whatcha talkin' about Willis?
I think the lyrics for Nobody's Hero sound... forced. One of the great things about Rush is how they so deftly integrated Neil's words into the song. There are almost no examples of cramming words in, or oddly phrased meters to make the lyrics work. Except here; it feels like some of the lyrics are shoe-horned in, and because some of the lyrics are a bit... treacly, it just makes that more obvious.
Vital Signs isn't that bad, but it sticks out on what is otherwise a stellar album. It's sort of a sore thumb.
The music is so emotional though for Nobody's Hero. I think Neil came off too human for you. You like your Peart Lyrics like Spock, not from Captain Kirk. :lol
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Second Nature is the most obvious candidate for worst Rush song in my book. Tai Shan is also probably on that worst 5 list.
Cygnus X-1 might be on the list. Spindrift is a good candidate. Face Up or Heresy maybe. I’ve never heard the self-titled album so those might all be on the list I guess.
Ummmm...WHAT? Not sure which Book you're talking about, but both are far more likely to show up in a TOP 10 list than a bottom anything list.
As far as Second Nature and Open Secrets, they're both pretty blah (as is most of HYF outside of Time Stand Still and Mission), but they're not really "bad" and certainly not hate-worthy.
The one on A Farewell to Kings. It just drones on without anything really interesting happening.
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May I say that I have not thoroughly enjoyed serving with Humans? I find their illogic and foolish emotions a constant irritant.
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May I say that I have not thoroughly enjoyed serving with Humans? I find their illogic and foolish emotions a constant irritant.
:lol
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Yes, yes, if anyone puts Open Secrets on their bottom 5 list, asses will be kicked.
I guess I get why some would say Chemistry, as the vocal melodies can be a bit lacking, but the music is pretty dynamite in that one, and I have grown to like it quite a bit.
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So is this now the Rush thread, instead of the Rush thread?
Okay then.
(https://i.imgur.com/9qmZrO3.jpg)
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I am considering doing a bottom 10 list, but I'm afraid that just a bunch of songs from the first two albums would end up on it. And there is no clear order on how much I dislike them. :lol
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I’d say if there’s one Rush song I’d put absolutely dead last it would be The Stars Look Down. I would rather listen to any other Rush song than this one.
Glad to see Chemistry getting some love too. The song flows quite awkwardly (I think each member contributed a different musical theme if I remember correctly) but it’s so Rush-esque that it’s hard not to love. Easily my favorite track on Signals after the equally nerdy Countdown.
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So is this now the Rush thread, instead of the Rush thread?
Okay then.
(https://i.imgur.com/9qmZrO3.jpg)
:lol
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Also, fans of Chemistry are finally gathering? Count me in. :tup
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
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(https://i.postimg.cc/gJdhksgQ/FB-IMG-1611268231565.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1SJB3QN)
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
Yeah, there really doesn’t seem to be any consensus on even what the bad Rush songs are!
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Ok, the lyrics to Virtuality isn't the greatest when it comes to referencing the modern internet in its early years, but I really do like that opening instrumentally. It feels like something you can drive to.
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Second Nature is the most obvious candidate for worst Rush song in my book. Tai Shan is also probably on that worst 5 list.
Cygnus X-1 might be on the list. Spindrift is a good candidate. Face Up or Heresy maybe. I’ve never heard the self-titled album so those might all be on the list I guess.
Ummmm...WHAT? Not sure which Book you're talking about, but both are far more likely to show up in a TOP 10 list than a bottom anything list.
As far as Second Nature and Open Secrets, they're both pretty blah (as is most of HYF outside of Time Stand Still and Mission), but they're not really "bad" and certainly not hate-worthy.
The one on A Farewell to Kings. It just drones on without anything really interesting happening.
Opinions and all, but
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
It's a terrible chorus. It felt like Neil had a list of internet terms and just crammed them all into the chorus whether or not they worked. And the part where Alex uses his guitar to sound like a dial-up modem seemed dumb even back then. HOWEVER, the rest of the song is actually pretty damn good.
Also, would someone PLEASE explain the old guy (apparently Bernie Sanders) that seems to be everywhere today.
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
Yeah, there really doesn’t seem to be any consensus on even what the bad Rush songs are!
Too true. For me so many songs listed in the last few pages as "worst songs" are alright or really good: Big Wheel, You Bet Your Life, Hand over Fist, Scars, Time and Motion, Dog Years.
Hell, even Carve Away the Stone I see as a slightly superior version of Wish Them Well (which recycles the chorus from the former). Yet it's still considered one of the lesser songs from a lesser album. But yet all the Rush fans seem to unanimously agree that everything on CA is the tits. Go figure.
And of course Chemistry is awesome!
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
Yeah, there really doesn’t seem to be any consensus on even what the bad Rush songs are!
Too true. For me so many songs listed in the last few pages as "worst songs" are alright or really good: Big Wheel, You Bet Your Life, Hand over Fist, Scars, Time and Motion, Dog Years.
Hell, even Carve Away the Stone I see as a slightly superior version of Wish Them Well (which recycles the chorus from the former). Yet it's still considered one of the lesser songs from a lesser album. But yet all the Rush fans seem to unanimously agree that everything on CA is the tits. Go figure.
And of course Chemistry is awesome!
Hah, yeah I love Carve Away The Stone (and most of Test for Echo). I also find it funny how much more people seem to like Clockwork Angels as it has a lot of similarities with Test for Echo (only with extremely awful mix/mastering).
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
Yeah, there really doesn’t seem to be any consensus on even what the bad Rush songs are!
Too true. For me so many songs listed in the last few pages as "worst songs" are alright or really good: Big Wheel, You Bet Your Life, Hand over Fist, Scars, Time and Motion, Dog Years.
Hell, even Carve Away the Stone I see as a slightly superior version of Wish Them Well (which recycles the chorus from the former). Yet it's still considered one of the lesser songs from a lesser album. But yet all the Rush fans seem to unanimously agree that everything on CA is the tits. Go figure.
And of course Chemistry is awesome!
Hah, yeah I love Carve Away The Stone (and most of Test for Echo). I also find it funny how much more people seem to like Clockwork Angels as it has a lot of similarities with Test for Echo (only with extremely awful mix/mastering).
Now that you mention it....another one comes straight to mind. Halo Effect basically re-uses the main riff from Half the World. It's been ages since I listened to CA, but doesn't that tune also have a mandolin solo? Again, CA re-using T4E ideas.
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
Yeah, there really doesn’t seem to be any consensus on even what the bad Rush songs are!
Too true. For me so many songs listed in the last few pages as "worst songs" are alright or really good: Big Wheel, You Bet Your Life, Hand over Fist, Scars, Time and Motion, Dog Years.
Hell, even Carve Away the Stone I see as a slightly superior version of Wish Them Well (which recycles the chorus from the former). Yet it's still considered one of the lesser songs from a lesser album. But yet all the Rush fans seem to unanimously agree that everything on CA is the tits. Go figure.
And of course Chemistry is awesome!
Hah, yeah I love Carve Away The Stone (and most of Test for Echo). I also find it funny how much more people seem to like Clockwork Angels as it has a lot of similarities with Test for Echo (only with extremely awful mix/mastering).
Now that you mention it....another one comes straight to mind. Halo Effect basically re-uses the main riff from Half the World. It's been ages since I listened to CA, but doesn't that tune also have a mandolin solo? Again, CA re-using T4E ideas.
Yeah, Halo Effect is similar to Half the World. A lot of riffs in various places are similar but I’d need to listen to it again. It’s really hard to get through for me. Some great songs but the sound is almost as bad as VT, maybe worse.
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
Yeah, there really doesn’t seem to be any consensus on even what the bad Rush songs are!
Too true. For me so many songs listed in the last few pages as "worst songs" are alright or really good: Big Wheel, You Bet Your Life, Hand over Fist, Scars, Time and Motion, Dog Years.
Hell, even Carve Away the Stone I see as a slightly superior version of Wish Them Well (which recycles the chorus from the former). Yet it's still considered one of the lesser songs from a lesser album. But yet all the Rush fans seem to unanimously agree that everything on CA is the tits. Go figure.
And of course Chemistry is awesome!
Hah, yeah I love Carve Away The Stone (and most of Test for Echo). I also find it funny how much more people seem to like Clockwork Angels as it has a lot of similarities with Test for Echo (only with extremely awful mix/mastering).
Now that you mention it....another one comes straight to mind. Halo Effect basically re-uses the main riff from Half the World. It's been ages since I listened to CA, but doesn't that tune also have a mandolin solo? Again, CA re-using T4E ideas.
Yeah, Halo Effect is similar to Half the World. A lot of riffs in various places are similar but I’d need to listen to it again. It’s really hard to get through for me. Some great songs but the sound is almost as bad as VT, maybe worse.
Yeah I don't remember the production being that good. I suppose I've gotten all too used to most modern productions of heavier music which aim to sound like boomy, distorted, reverb-y shit bouncing off a restroom wall, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it was intentionally bad. I really need to spin CA again and give it another good listen on it's own terms and try to ignore the riff lineage so-to-speak.
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I don't mind the lyrics to Virtuality, and that riff is totally bad ass. I would rank that as one of the top songs on Test for Echo along with Resist.
There are definitely no bad songs on Clockwork Angels, but I agree that the sound could/should have been a lot better. Imagine that record with a production similar to Counterparts. *drools*
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Gonna guess;
Face Up
Heresy
Big Wheel
Neurotica
You Bet Your Life
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Have you been stalking me? Freakin creepy that you went 5 for 5 on the first try.
You dug through my old posts, didn’t you?
Re: the AC/DC thread...PROMISE I’m doing that this weekend. Three week vacation was desperately needed, and attained. But I’m back to the grind now.
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Among the 5 worst Rush songs, I might agree on
Face Up
Neurotica
You Bet Your Life
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"Net boy. Net girl." :lol
That's all I have :justjen
I love this song and still have no idea why that’s a bad lyric!
I dunno. There's just something about it and the way Geddy sings it that's just screamingly hilarious to me! I'm OK with the rest of the song...but my gawd does that chorus make me cringe!
Nice to see we all have different tastes. :tup
Yeah, there really doesn’t seem to be any consensus on even what the bad Rush songs are!
Too true. For me so many songs listed in the last few pages as "worst songs" are alright or really good: Big Wheel, You Bet Your Life, Hand over Fist, Scars, Time and Motion, Dog Years.
Hell, even Carve Away the Stone I see as a slightly superior version of Wish Them Well (which recycles the chorus from the former). Yet it's still considered one of the lesser songs from a lesser album. But yet all the Rush fans seem to unanimously agree that everything on CA is the tits. Go figure.
And of course Chemistry is awesome!
Not this one; I'm not as big a fan as some here, but I have pretty much every song they've ever released except for the live Vital Signs (unless it's on one of the deluxe reissues) and the first single, so I'm not a casual fan either. CA would probably be my most overrated album in the catalogue in terms of my tastes versus the fanbase (meaning, it's not bad, it's pretty good, but not godlike, as some hold it; for the life of me I don't get the reverence for The Garden).
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But yet all the Rush fans seem to unanimously agree that everything on CA is the tits. Go figure.
Not I. I think CA is probably the weakest of the three 21st Century Rush albums.
CA would probably be my most overrated album in the catalogue in terms of my tastes versus the fanbase (meaning, it's not bad, it's pretty good, but not godlike, as some hold it
I don't know about the fanbase as a whole, but based on the reverence in which it seems to be held here, I completely agree, and I wouldn't even go so far as to say "pretty good."
for the life of me I don't get the reverence for The Garden).
Now you've gone and done it. The Garden seems to be some sort of sacred cow ( :natalieportman: ), so you can expect to be pilloried for denying its status as a deity. I keep trying and...just...no.
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Now you've gone and done it. The Garden seems to be some sort of sacred cow ( :natalieportman: ), so you can expect to be pilloried for denying its status as a deity. I keep trying and...just...no.
I know! I'm ready! Bring it on!
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In addition to the overall sound of CA being crummy, Geddy’s voice is a little rough as well. It was time for them to make their last album for sure. I do hate that the production is so poor, because I do think there are some gems there. In terms of their last 3 albums, I’d rate it below VT but above S&A.
The Garden wouldn’t be such a remarkable song in isolation, but it’s both a nice closer to this particular album and an obvious swan song for the band that generally hits the right notes for such a thing. There’s a lot of emotional pull there and I think that is a big factor in why it is revered. I like it a lot, even if I agree it’s not the most amazing song ever.
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I don't mind the lyrics to Virtuality, and that riff is totally bad ass. I would rank that as one of the top songs on Test for Echo along with Resist.
There are definitely no bad songs on Clockwork Angels, but I agree that the sound could/should have been a lot better. Imagine that record with a production similar to Counterparts. *drools*
Agreed. This album does not have that crisp production like Counterparts. It makes me wonder why they didn't catch that in the studio. Same thing with the CA tour, Neil's drums were muddled in the mix when I saw them. It also shows on the bluray.
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I stand by what I said about the song, but I will say this; this might be the best couplet in the entire catalogue:
The future disappears into memory
With only a moment between
Forever dwells in that moment
Hope is what remains to be seen
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Not this one; I'm not as big a fan as some here, but I have pretty much every song they've ever released except for the live Vital Signs (unless it's on one of the deluxe reissues) and the first single, so I'm not a casual fan either. CA would probably be my most overrated album in the catalogue in terms of my tastes versus the fanbase (meaning, it's not bad, it's pretty good, but not godlike, as some hold it; for the life of me I don't get the reverence for The Garden).
My experience with CA has always been the same every time I've checked it out. I quite enjoy the 1st 3 songs (Caravan, BU2B, title track) and then find the next two (Carnies and The Anarchist I think?) to be merely serviceable but neither offensive nor enjoyable. From there the album takes a sharp dive off a cliff. Nothing else I remember liking, and the rest of it just becomes a grand disappointment. Don't get all the gushing for Headlong Flight -- and I thought Armor & Sword was a harmonically clunky and awkward; this tune makes it look elegant by comparison!
However, I can understand the emotional appeal of The Garden. It really does put a nice cap on Rush's career (from a lyrical perspective). But I agree that the song is somewhat average and for me there's just no joy in it. It's a bore. Now Available Light. There's a solid album closer! Maybe it's just me, but I feel like the ending phase of Rush's studio output was by far the weakest phase of their career. For me Presto-thru-T4E > anything that followed it.
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Not I. I think CA is probably the weakest of the three 21st Century Rush albums.
Nice to know I'm not alone in thinking that too! Not that it's technically a "bad album" or anything. It just doesn't really do much for me overall.
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The Garden is the most beautiful song they have ever written and encapsulates the end of their career perfectly! :metal :metal
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Yeah, The Garden is about as close to a perfect career coda as you can get (besides maybe Bowie's I Can't Give Everything Away) even if the album it's on isn't 100% amazing.
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Respect, but "Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End".
Honorable mention, "Fading Lights".
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Their not ancient like us Stads. :lol
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Respect, but "Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End".
Honorable mention, "Fading Lights".
Except Genesis’ career coda is One Man’s Fool. 😉
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Respect, but "Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End".
Honorable mention, "Fading Lights".
But The Beatles last release was technically Let It Be, and Genesis' was Calling All Stations, sooooo...
-Marc.
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Respect, but "Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End".
Honorable mention, "Fading Lights".
But The Beatles last release was technically Let It Be, and Genesis' was Calling All Stations, sooooo...
-Marc.
I have to do a little gymnastics for Genesis (it was the coda for the PHIL era, so far) but I'm good to stand with Beatles, since Let It Be was in the can for over a year at the time they cut that suite, with at least Paul aware that it was likely the last major release for The Beatles proper.
And besides, if The Garden has to win on a technicality.... :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
(I'm kidding)
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You are all wrong. Queen - The Show Must Go On.
End discussion.
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Well... none of that's a patch on the awesomeness that is ELP's Street War. ;) Totally joking of course :lol
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Now you've gone and done it. The Garden seems to be some sort of sacred cow ( :natalieportman: ), so you can expect to be pilloried for denying its status as a deity. I keep trying and...just...no.
I know! I'm ready! Bring it on!
I’d think this is more up your alley, Stadler... ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/jH20FNt.jpg)
As far as Clockwork Angels, I think it’s a great album. Certainly not their best, but quite solid for a nearly 40 year career and definitely a step up from Snakes and Arrows. And agreed, The Garden is also a very nice song and a fitting end to a fantastic career, but it’s definitely not best-ever-be-all-end-all material.
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I don't mind the lyrics to Virtuality, and that riff is totally bad ass. I would rank that as one of the top songs on Test for Echo along with Resist.
There are definitely no bad songs on Clockwork Angels, but I agree that the sound could/should have been a lot better. Imagine that record with a production similar to Counterparts. *drools*
Agreed. This album does not have that crisp production like Counterparts. It makes me wonder why they didn't catch that in the studio. Same thing with the CA tour, Neil's drums were muddled in the mix when I saw them. It also shows on the bluray.
It boggles the mind how so many older bands, whose records sounded great in their younger days, allowed their later albums to be victimized by the bad trends of modern production, especially in the case of Rush who always had creative control over their music since 1976.
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I don't mind the lyrics to Virtuality, and that riff is totally bad ass. I would rank that as one of the top songs on Test for Echo along with Resist.
There are definitely no bad songs on Clockwork Angels, but I agree that the sound could/should have been a lot better. Imagine that record with a production similar to Counterparts. *drools*
Agreed. This album does not have that crisp production like Counterparts. It makes me wonder why they didn't catch that in the studio. Same thing with the CA tour, Neil's drums were muddled in the mix when I saw them. It also shows on the bluray.
It boggles the mind how so many older bands, whose records sounded great in their younger days, allowed their later albums to be victimized by the bad trends of modern production, especially in the case of Rush who always had creative control over their music since 1976.
I’m convinced older artists have simply lost too much hearing between years of playing loud music and age, and it’s possible the heavily compressed mastering actually sounds better to them.
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I’m convinced older artists have simply lost too much hearing between years of playing loud music and age, and it’s possible the heavily compressed mastering actually sounds better to them.
Agreed. When they released the three 80's concerts on DVD (ESL, P/G tour, A Show of Hands), Alex Lifeson (yes, the same Alex Lifeson who is my all-time favorite musician) had a huge hand in the sound when making the transfer and none of them sound as good as they did on the original VHS's. Heck, A Show of Hands is my most watched concert ever by a wide distance, and yet I rarely watch the DVD because of how frustrating the sound is in comparison to the original.
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the Bernie power windows....deleted for space and later mentioned, already posted....oops
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Fitting the thread...
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Orbert beat ya to it on the last page...
So is this now the Rush thread, instead of the Rush thread?
Okay then.
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And now I'm posting it here again two more times. Whoops.
-Marc.
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It didn't show on my last page...that's what I get for not going back earlier :facepalm:
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If I have to see that (and all of the other Rush covers that have been similarly vandalized) again, I'm going to seriously break something....
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If I have to see that (and all of the other Rush covers that have been similarly vandalized) again, I'm going to seriously break something....
There's the Queen II album butchered in the Queen thread. It was funny; I even posted it once myself, but now we're just repeating ourselves.
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If someone replaced the old guy on the back of the Change of Seasons EP with that Bernie meme it would be a bit more appropriate...
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Fitting the thread...
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Is that TAC?
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If someone replaced the old guy on the back of the Change of Seasons EP with that Bernie meme it would be a bit more appropriate...
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzChtDw2/FB-IMG-1611364295056.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/KcHK0VSd/FB-IMG-1611324414973.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
:rollin :rollin
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Epic!
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Awesome! :rollin
And since adding Bernie to album covers seems to be a thing for now...
(https://i.imgur.com/3jJT43o.jpg)
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Fitting the thread...
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Is that TAC?
:lol
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Well, for all their faults, Rolling Stone keeps killing it with the Rush content. Fantastic interview with Geddy on his relationship with Neil. Some really cool background on the band’s inner working and insight into Neil’s personality in here.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/geddy-lee-neil-peart-interview-rush-1120190/?fbclid=IwAR0ir7Wr9hUjfra3Uhr6aAJVvsWUZg03xUq0BG-TeaIE0v9A6Rp1TcR7d34
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That's good stuff. I love to hear such honest details about how a band works together. Geddy is so well spoken about it.
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Saw that interview earlier. Great stuff. That was cool to see Geddy being so open and revealing about their process and the inner workings of the bands as well as their on the road life and how Neil's changes over time impacted them. The fact that they stayed together so long and always stayed so close despite things that could have torn most other bands apart (Alex not digging the synths at the time in the mid 80's, Neil not hanging as much when touring, etc.) is just another reason why they were so special. :hat :hat
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill. I stumbled across a good bootleg shot of a show from that tour and had forgotten that they played all of Freewill until the solo section and then as soon as that part ends, they immediately went into Distant Early Warning. Very odd. Freewill hadn't been played in nearly a decade, and they finally bust it back out and play all of it except the last minute and a half. Maybe Geddy didn't feel his voice was in the best shape at the time to attempt the "Each of us..." vocal section every night, but it just felt like an odd way to do it.
That was always my assumption. His voice wasn't in the best shape at that time for it. That omission was noted.
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I grew up in an era where you went and bought an album and awed over the artwork and especially with Rush, read the lyrics along with the song. Some people read the lyrics and then listen to the song which I kind of find strange but I am of a different generation.
I do have my share of misunderstanding lyrics or sounds. For instance, the beginning of the Beatles "Come Together" I thought they were saying "shit" and I always thought "how can they get away with that over the radio"? :lol
Rush studio albums ALWAYS had lyrics. (Well except for the first album, My Favorite Headache (CD) and Feedback.) Needed to memorize them in time for the concert.
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill.
The thing that I never understood on that tour was the version of Subdivisions that they did. It started with the drums rhythmically pounding out the keyboard melody (which I thought was super cool) but then they completely skipped the second verse! The one thing that was great about that tour was that it seemed to be the first tour in a long time where they actually extended some of the instrumental sections of the songs, instead of just playing them exactly as the studio versions, which I welcomed. I remember they stretched out Dreamline, Bravado and Where's My Thing. And they also jammed out the brief excerpt of Red Barchetta that appeared in the closing medley encore.
That still bothers the crap out of me (Think it was the Presto Tour though) At the time I thought it was a mistake. It's the only time they ever messed with Subdivisions.
The Roll The Bones Tour (Especially the European leg and the third US leg) was when they moved a little more toward improv. The encore was pretty cool though. It kind of celebrated the 10th anniversary of the last time Rush did a huge encore medley which was during the Moving Pictures Tour. I think the Neil Peart windmill was my favorite part of that encore.
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I wish there was a great-sounding, official live version of Where's My Thing from the Roll the Bones tour. I love the original, but live it was even better. The live version from the Clockwork Angels was good, but inexplicably buried that exotic melody during each chorus to where you barely even hear it, and I don't want 3-4 minutes of a drum solo every time I listen to the song, so that version is less than ideal for me.
I think the Clockwork Angels Tour version is my favorite especially the drum solo.
Too bad Where's My Thing? wasn't included in 60 minutes that BBC broadcast from Wembley in 1992. Would have rather have heard that than Limelight again.
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The Xanadu into Superconductor segue on the Roll the Bones tour has been talked about before as one of the strangest moments in Rush live history, but nearly as strange on that tour was their decision to play an abridged version of Freewill.
The thing that I never understood on that tour was the version of Subdivisions that they did. It started with the drums rhythmically pounding out the keyboard melody (which I thought was super cool) but then they completely skipped the second verse! The one thing that was great about that tour was that it seemed to be the first tour in a long time where they actually extended some of the instrumental sections of the songs, instead of just playing them exactly as the studio versions, which I welcomed. I remember they stretched out Dreamline, Bravado and Where's My Thing. And they also jammed out the brief excerpt of Red Barchetta that appeared in the closing medley encore.
I vaguely remember that from seeing it live, but are there any official live version of that version of Subdivisions out there?
Officially? No, but there are some audience video recordings on YouTube. Just search "Rush live 1992 Subdivisions" and there should be some results. I'm watching one from the Albany, NY show right now.
-Marc.
Stand corrected. It was the Roll The Bones Tour. I would have sworn they did that at the Meadowlands in 1990.
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
How did I know you’d say that!
Seriously. That's the best song on the album. (Live anyway.) Studio version is a tease of the highest order.
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Well, I do like Anthrax more than I like Pink Floyd, so there's that..
That explains more than you know.
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Bravado has to be one of the worst songs Rush ever recorded.
You are officially on the concussion protocol.
You went there.
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Tim's been concussed for 3 decades.
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The Big Wheel has a strong chorus, but I don’t love the verses. It’s one of the better songs on the second half though.
Another great one.
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Tim's been concussed for 3 decades.
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Roll the Bones is a flawed album, but I love it nonetheless, and will defend it to my last breath. :biggrin:
One song that catches a lot of flack is You Bet Your Life, but I love that song.
:hifive:
Though, I also enjoy Heresy, and think Ghost of a Chance is in the bottom half of the album.
:ontome:
You would not be the only one regarding Ghost Of a Chance.
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I'm not a big Heresy fan. I do love The Big Wheel.
I like Heresy. Good melodies, and it's also kind of an answer to Scorpions "Wind of Change" lyrically.
But the CIA didn't write Heresy!
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Yeah, but Roll The Bones followed a good album..
From my mind to your keyboard. Thanks for taking the heat, Tim.
He radiates more heat than light.
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Tony Geranios - AKA Jack Secret. Roadie for Rush for decades.
RIP
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That’d be an interesting topic for discussion - Bottom 5 Rush songs. I’d expect a lot of disagreement in opinions, really. My list would probably include in no particular order:
I Think I’m Going Bald
Madrigal
Chemistry
Spindrift
The Necromancer
Honorable mentions to Tai Shan, The Big Wheel, Fountain of Lamneth, and Workin’ Them Angels. I know I left out any debut album song, but I’m considering the massive improvement that took place on Fly By Night once Peart joined. I do appreciate the debut for what it is, but it’s just not really “Rush” to me.
I'd type out my list, but then I would get sent to concussion protocol. (Although I probably posted it in the Rush thread.)
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The Speed Of Love has to be in that list.
That's one.
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Tim's been concussed for 3 decades.
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Seeing double? :lol
The Speed Of Love has to be in that list.
That's one.
Yup.
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I like Speed of Love. Chorus isn’t anything special, but I like the verses a lot and the overall vibe.
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Not as good.
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I don't mind the lyrics to Virtuality, and that riff is totally bad ass. I would rank that as one of the top songs on Test for Echo along with Resist.
There are definitely no bad songs on Clockwork Angels, but I agree that the sound could/should have been a lot better. Imagine that record with a production similar to Counterparts. *drools*
Agreed. This album does not have that crisp production like Counterparts. It makes me wonder why they didn't catch that in the studio. Same thing with the CA tour, Neil's drums were muddled in the mix when I saw them. It also shows on the bluray.
It boggles the mind how so many older bands, whose records sounded great in their younger days, allowed their later albums to be victimized by the bad trends of modern production, especially in the case of Rush who always had creative control over their music since 1976.
I’m convinced older artists have simply lost too much hearing between years of playing loud music and age, and it’s possible the heavily compressed mastering actually sounds better to them.
Agreed.
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If someone replaced the old guy on the back of the Change of Seasons EP with that Bernie meme it would be a bit more appropriate...
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzChtDw2/FB-IMG-1611364295056.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Another good one.
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Awesome! :rollin
And since adding Bernie to album covers seems to be a thing for now...
(https://i.imgur.com/3jJT43o.jpg)
That one works too.
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Well, for all their faults, Rolling Stone keeps killing it with the Rush content. Fantastic interview with Geddy on his relationship with Neil. Some really cool background on the band’s inner working and insight into Neil’s personality in here.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/geddy-lee-neil-peart-interview-rush-1120190/?fbclid=IwAR0ir7Wr9hUjfra3Uhr6aAJVvsWUZg03xUq0BG-TeaIE0v9A6Rp1TcR7d34
Nothing new of course but a great job anyway. Very tasteful.
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Not as good.
NONE of them are good.
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I never noticed that there were people on the original T4E album cover. Huh.
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Well, for all their faults, Rolling Stone keeps killing it with the Rush content. Fantastic interview with Geddy on his relationship with Neil. Some really cool background on the band’s inner working and insight into Neil’s personality in here.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/geddy-lee-neil-peart-interview-rush-1120190/?fbclid=IwAR0ir7Wr9hUjfra3Uhr6aAJVvsWUZg03xUq0BG-TeaIE0v9A6Rp1TcR7d34
Re-upping this Geddy Lee interview for the Monday crowd since it got a little bit buried over the weekend.
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I never noticed that there were people on the original T4E album cover. Huh.
Same!
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I never noticed that there were people on the original T4E album cover. Huh.
Same!
Funny that you guys both missed that. I remember reading (probably around the time the album was released) that Alex was actually the one who made the suggestion to include people in the image to give us an idea of how big the inukshuk was supposed to be.
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I never noticed that there were people on the original T4E album cover. Huh.
Same!
Funny that you guys both missed that. I remember reading (probably around the time the album was released) that Alex was actually the one who made the suggestion to include people in the image to give us an idea of how big the inukshuk was supposed to be.
They were supposed to represent each band member if I recall correctly.
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Going back and re-reading this thread was something else.
The legacy of the Professor lives on. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy