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Title: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 12, 2019, 09:53:13 AM
Anyone watching this show? I'd never heard of the book trilogy it's based off of, but the show itself is pretty interesting. It's a bit fantasy....a bit modern day....idea being there are multiple 'realities' out there and potential travel between them.

Has quite a few known actors like James McAvoy, Lin-Manuel Miranda, James Cosmo, Andrew Scott, Dafne Keen.....only two episodes in and I'm very curious as to how the story will keep progressing.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - HBO
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 12, 2019, 10:35:02 AM
I will be starting this soon.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - HBO
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2019, 10:51:21 AM
I caught the first episode.  I thought it was fantastic.

Still have to catch episode 2.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - HBO
Post by: faizoff on November 12, 2019, 10:52:17 AM
First two episodes are great so far, ton of world building and great visuals.

I did watch the movie that came out eons ago, don't remember much of it. I've heard the books are great and have to tread lightly when it comes to reading about the show or episodes since I believe they are more or less done. So spoilers are there galore.

One comment regarding the thread title and I saw it mentioned elsewhere... It's actually not an HBO show, they are distributing it but it's actually produced by the BBC. Not that it matters to me, but I saw very heated exchanges on the webs regarding the branding of the show lol. Brand loyalty is very important to some  ;)
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 12, 2019, 11:20:27 AM
I changed the thread title to maintain accuracy.  :lol
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: faizoff on November 12, 2019, 11:32:42 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 12, 2019, 11:40:38 AM
Of the four shows I'm currently running, this is the best of the pack so far. Granted the Mandalorian only has one episode, but HDM just clicks on all levels, and visually it's beyond stunning. Really looking forward to when the bears get into the mix.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 12, 2019, 12:25:01 PM
Am a fan of the books, so yep I'm watching this. Really fantastic so far in pretty much every regard, can't wait to see how the show develops.

In terms of the potential to travel between realities that you mention, it's really interesting that they've started including this fairly directly from early on whereas it wasn't really explicit in the books until the second one (which the second season will be adapting). The show seems incredibly faithful so far though, and some playing around with exactly what happens (or gets shown) when tends to be needed anyway to make something work on screen.

I'm also curious as to what their plans are. They've pretty much said seasons 1 and 2 are books 1 and 2, but book 3 is huge so I wonder if that will stretch across two seasons. Four seasons in total feels probably right for the scope of the story.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 12, 2019, 12:31:30 PM
So Rich, what did the movie Golden Compass cover as far as the books go? I saw it a ways back and it was entertaining enough, but now realize the vast amounts of info it neglected.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2019, 12:39:21 PM
I saw The Golden Compass and didn't like it one bit.

The cast on this new adaptation is incredible.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 12, 2019, 01:52:52 PM
The Golden Compass also pretty much covered most of the first book, but oddly enough not the whole thing - the book ends with a much more exciting set-up for the next one, whereas the movie for some reason ended earlier with little fanfare or drama. And yeah it was pretty surface-level - always a risk when trying to adapt a rich novel into a 2-hour movie and they didn't do a very good job of condensing it down.

It was also irritating that the movie had the American title of The Golden Compass, instead of the actual original book title which was Northern Lights.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 15, 2019, 03:47:06 AM
The book series was translated in full and fairly popular around the time I was the age of the main characters, and it was my gateway into fantasy books, alongside Harry Potter and Artemis Fowl. Not to spoil too much of the themes of the later parts of the series, but it was the first text that made me realize other people aren't huge fans of religion and that it isn't just me  :biggrin: so if you have curious pre-teens or early teenagers, I definitely recommend watching with them, or buying them the book series.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 15, 2019, 04:19:03 AM
Not to spoil too much of the themes of the later parts of the series, but it was the first text that made me realize other people aren't huge fans of religion and that it isn't just me
I mean, it's not just the later parts. From pretty early on (in both the books and the show) it covers the fact that the Magisterium wants to control everything. :P
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 15, 2019, 05:15:58 AM
I was talking about that other thing  :xbones
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 19, 2019, 12:07:53 AM
The young lady playing Lyra is such a tremendous actress, She is just killing it on this show. I remember that she practically made Logan, and she's matured a great deal since then.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2019, 10:28:21 AM
Yeah she's really great. I also find it quite funny that her dad is in the series too.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 19, 2019, 08:19:19 PM
Yeah she's really great. I also find it quite funny that her dad is in the series too.

Who does her dad play?
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 19, 2019, 11:53:11 PM
Yeah she's really great. I also find it quite funny that her dad is in the series too.

Who does her dad play?
Father Macphail from the Magisterium. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1652308/

I've seen him in a few things but hadn't made the connection before. Quite funny that he's a fairly experienced actor that isn't very well known while his 14-year-old daughter is pretty much a global superstar already from one movie and one TV show.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 20, 2019, 07:40:18 AM
Ah yeah...well, it was one hell of a movie role.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 25, 2019, 10:40:38 PM
Tonight's episode was pure magic. I have fallen completely in love with this show.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 02, 2019, 12:20:23 PM
Just binged the first 4 episodes yesterday. Yes, Daphne Keen is already quite the actor despite her age.

Those 4 hours blew by. Guess that means I enjoyed it. Looking forward to the rest of the season.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on December 02, 2019, 11:59:27 PM
Ep5 was absolutely crushing. The conviction when Billy's mom say's "we'll kill them..." sent layers of chills down my spine. The acting is just so good across the board here. Serious cliffhanger end...next Monday can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2019, 12:24:47 AM
Yeah the events of ep 5 (those on Lyra's world anyway) from the book gradually came back to me as the episode progressed. It was so brilliantly done.

Also interesting how they're very much introducing the start of the second book already. I think it does make a lot of sense for a TV show to make the transition from season 1 to season 2 smoother. Back when I first started reading the second book I remember thinking "is this even the same story?"
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on December 10, 2019, 05:28:28 AM
Ugh.. That cliffhanger man..

Another perfect episode, they're building nicely to the finale.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: faizoff on December 10, 2019, 06:35:52 AM
Two more episodes left, I'm very surprised James McAvoy was barely in the season so far. I thought he was one of the main characters. The camp with the kids was a tough watch though at times it appeared a little goofy with Lyra weaving in and out of the crowd.

Every weekend is a season finale for the shows I'm watching now. Silicon Valley ended last weekend, next Sunday is Watchmen, followed by His Dark Materials and then finally series finale for Mr. Robot.
Plus The Mandalorian.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on December 10, 2019, 10:40:15 PM
I've stayed behind on Watchmen and Mr Robot to have something to run in the new year, plus I wanted to rehash S3 of Mr Robot to remind where the show was rolling.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on December 24, 2019, 09:50:24 AM
Solid finish to a brilliant season....can't understate how well executed this show is. Don't think I can wait too long for season two.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: MirrorMask on August 18, 2020, 03:07:27 AM
Started watching this.

The first episode is intriguing and the production values are high, but one episode isn't just enough to judge the show.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 16, 2020, 03:13:18 PM
New season starts tonight :caffeine:
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 16, 2020, 03:15:59 PM
New season starts tonight :caffeine:

Wait...what!? How'd that happen? That snuck up on me quick....thanks RJ  :tup
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 16, 2020, 03:19:35 PM
We're two episodes in so far in the UK, it continues to be fantastic.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 16, 2020, 06:26:35 PM
We're two episodes in so far in the UK, it continues to be fantastic.

Show off. :p
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: faizoff on November 16, 2020, 06:45:03 PM
I am hoping the 2nd season has tighter story telling, I liked season 1 and it had some great high points but some side stories looked like they were just season 2 setups. So I'm hoping the new season will have solid offerings. Might binge it after the season is over.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 17, 2020, 01:37:30 PM
We're two episodes in so far in the UK, it continues to be fantastic.

Show off. :p
I'm allowed to be slightly smug on the very rare occasion we're ahead. Normally we're behind by at least a few days if not weeks, sometimes months, and sometimes no UK network picks things up at all.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: kaos2900 on November 24, 2020, 07:52:47 AM
First season is on Blu-Ray for $9.99. Going to pick it up based on the praise here. :)
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 29, 2020, 09:03:27 PM
Ep 2 was exceptionally solid of course, and the framework is really being laid for connecting the two worlds. Curious to see how the witches react to the fire bombing, they don't seem the live and let live type. The magistrate is going to pay for that shit.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 30, 2020, 12:01:44 AM
Ep 2 was exceptionally solid of course, and the framework is really being laid for connecting the two worlds. Curious to see how the witches react to the fire bombing, they don't seem the live and let live type. The magistrate is going to pay for that shit.
Magisterium? :lol

Up to ep 4 now in the UK and this is another damn fine season so far. It's a fantastic adaptation, and while I guess some casual viewers and non book readers might find the various plot strands a bit confusing, the storytelling is actually really tight and only covers stuff that is essential to the direction of the story. Can't wait to see how they adapt the final book which I guess might be stretched out across two seasons. 
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 30, 2020, 12:48:36 AM
God stop picking on me rich.   :lol


I just live how the overall arcs just keep getting richer, and drawn out so deftly.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 30, 2020, 02:10:06 AM
God stop picking on me rich.   :lol
It's ok, I assume you just watched the latest Mandalorian episode which had The Magistrate in, so I'll let you off. :P
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: The Walrus on November 30, 2020, 10:45:42 AM
I have tried watching this a few times now. I am up to episode 5. The writing is horrible and the story is boring. The characters aren't compelling. The demon stuff really isn't explained much and they all feel like afterthoughts. And, despite the books apparently coming before Harry Potter, there's a lot that feels extremely Harry Potter-ish about this, in a bad way. I dunno, I'll try to keep going I guess.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on November 30, 2020, 03:13:12 PM
I have tried watching this a few times now. I am up to episode 5. The writing is horrible and the story is boring. The characters aren't compelling. The demon stuff really isn't explained much and they all feel like afterthoughts. And, despite the books apparently coming before Harry Potter, there's a lot that feels extremely Harry Potter-ish about this, in a bad way. I dunno, I'll try to keep going I guess.
This might be your worst take on anything ever.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: The Walrus on November 30, 2020, 03:30:40 PM
I have tried watching this a few times now. I am up to episode 5. The writing is horrible and the story is boring. The characters aren't compelling. The demon stuff really isn't explained much and they all feel like afterthoughts. And, despite the books apparently coming before Harry Potter, there's a lot that feels extremely Harry Potter-ish about this, in a bad way. I dunno, I'll try to keep going I guess.
This might be your worst take on anything ever.

Really? It's so corny and badly acted. The woman playing Coulter is trying so hard with the material she's given, god bless her. The daemon stuff feels like a D rate Harry Potter/Pokemon crossover. I've gone in really trying to appreciate it but oof, man.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: Progmetty on November 30, 2020, 03:39:19 PM
Is James McVoy in this a lot or just spotty appearances?
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 30, 2020, 03:48:56 PM
I have tried watching this a few times now. I am up to episode 5. The writing is horrible and the story is boring. The characters aren't compelling. The demon stuff really isn't explained much and they all feel like afterthoughts. And, despite the books apparently coming before Harry Potter, there's a lot that feels extremely Harry Potter-ish about this, in a bad way. I dunno, I'll try to keep going I guess.
This might be your worst take on anything ever.

Yeah, I gotta side with Rich on this one.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: The Walrus on November 30, 2020, 03:52:40 PM
That is FAR from my worst take, I absolutely, 100% promise you that.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on November 30, 2020, 05:30:58 PM
 :lol

Yeah, there's always the Nick Cave thing hanging out there. :p
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on December 01, 2020, 12:45:10 AM
I have tried watching this a few times now. I am up to episode 5. The writing is horrible and the story is boring. The characters aren't compelling. The demon stuff really isn't explained much and they all feel like afterthoughts. And, despite the books apparently coming before Harry Potter, there's a lot that feels extremely Harry Potter-ish about this, in a bad way. I dunno, I'll try to keep going I guess.
This might be your worst take on anything ever.

Really? It's so corny and badly acted. The woman playing Coulter is trying so hard with the material she's given, god bless her. The daemon stuff feels like a D rate Harry Potter/Pokemon crossover. I've gone in really trying to appreciate it but oof, man.
Every single thing you've said is wrong and awful and you should feel bad.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: The Curious Orange on December 01, 2020, 04:39:10 AM
I'm still watching it, but by God why they have to digitally colour grade everything into the orange and teal axis is beyond me. It's all but unwatchable. I long for the days when film and tv goes back to natural colours.

And I wish they'd put some expository dialogue in, so that viewers might stand a chance of following what's going on.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ariich on December 01, 2020, 06:19:21 AM
I'm still watching it, but by God why they have to digitally colour grade everything into the orange and teal axis is beyond me. It's all but unwatchable. I long for the days when film and tv goes back to natural colours.
I have no problem with the colours at all, but also they use slightly different colour palettes for the different worlds. Will's world is our world, so looks pretty neutral.

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And I wish they'd put some expository dialogue in, so that viewers might stand a chance of following what's going on.
Out of interest, is there anything in particular that you're finding hard/impossible to follow?

There's a lot the viewer doesn't know yet because Lyra and Will don't know it, which is the same as in the books. The exposition has in general been very aligned with the books, with actually a bit more as the first book only follows Lyra and we don't even know about parallel worlds at all until the start of the second when we meet Will, so IMO they've done a really good job of making it more accessible for TV viewers. But I say this as someone who read the books, so I don't know if there are particular points that should be understood at this stage but are unclear.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: The Walrus on December 01, 2020, 07:12:37 AM
I have tried watching this a few times now. I am up to episode 5. The writing is horrible and the story is boring. The characters aren't compelling. The demon stuff really isn't explained much and they all feel like afterthoughts. And, despite the books apparently coming before Harry Potter, there's a lot that feels extremely Harry Potter-ish about this, in a bad way. I dunno, I'll try to keep going I guess.
This might be your worst take on anything ever.

Really? It's so corny and badly acted. The woman playing Coulter is trying so hard with the material she's given, god bless her. The daemon stuff feels like a D rate Harry Potter/Pokemon crossover. I've gone in really trying to appreciate it but oof, man.
Every single thing you've said is wrong and awful and you should feel bad.

It absolutely isn't, and I don't even watch much TV, so my standards aren't exactly high
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: soupytwist on December 01, 2020, 08:36:25 AM
I have tried watching this a few times now. I am up to episode 5. The writing is horrible and the story is boring. The characters aren't compelling. The demon stuff really isn't explained much and they all feel like afterthoughts. And, despite the books apparently coming before Harry Potter, there's a lot that feels extremely Harry Potter-ish about this, in a bad way. I dunno, I'll try to keep going I guess.

I agree.  I tried, I really did - watched all the first series, but it was a real slog.  Like a lot of young adult material it's just to poe faced, humourless and really quite dreary, towards the end of each episode I'd be clockwatching and yawning. 
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on December 05, 2022, 07:10:00 PM
Season 3 kicks off tonight :caffeine:
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: lonestar on December 31, 2022, 11:16:41 PM
Binged the last 5 episodes today. What a tremendous show, just so beautifully done.

Dafne Keen is an absolute treasure as Lyra, and I can't wait to see where her career goes next. Two high profile performances in this and Logan, and she fucking crushed both of them.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 03, 2023, 11:42:38 AM
Watched S1 back when it originally aired and really liked the show. But, for whatever reason.....I didn't jump back on board when S2 aired and now I see that S3 has aired as well. Will have to do a recap of S1 and get back on this one.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: faizoff on March 14, 2023, 10:03:28 PM
Finally got done watching the final season. It was quite enjoyable, I think season 2 was great probably my favorite but season 3 was close. Satisfying ending, having never read the books I didn't know what to expect in the end but it was a good sendoff.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: ZirconBlue on March 15, 2023, 09:47:47 AM
Finally got done watching the final season. It was quite enjoyable, I think season 2 was great probably my favorite but season 3 was close. Satisfying ending, having never read the books I didn't know what to expect in the end but it was a good sendoff.


I don't know.  It was "satisfying" in that nothing was really left hanging.  But it was quite a downer IMO.
Title: Re: His Dark Materials - A BBC Production
Post by: Lonk on May 08, 2023, 06:52:28 AM
Finished this show yesterday. Very enjoyable. Though season 3 felt like it dragged (Except for Ep. 7).