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Friday, Sept. 11, 2020 Day 3:
Conception (Norway) *US EXCLUSIVE*
Jeff Scott Soto’s Tribute to Queen (USA)
The Night Flight Orchestra (Sweden) *US DEBUT & EXCLUSIVE*
Eternal Tears of Sorrow (Finland) *US DEBUT & EXCLUSIVE*
Witherfall (USA)
Shattered Skies (Ireland, England) *US DEBUT & EXCLUSIVE*
Saturday, Sept. 12, 2020 Day 4:
Turilli / Lione Rhapsody (Italy) *US EXCLUSIVE*
Ihsahn -Official- (Norway) *US EXCLUSIVE
theGathering (The Netherlands) *US EXCLUSIVE*
Beast In Black (Multi-national) *US DEBUT*
Thank You Scientist (USA)
Arion (Finland) *US DEBUT & EXCLUSIVE”
Dates: September 11-12, 2020
Tickets on sale Sat., Oct. 12 at 10am ET via Ticketmaster
Roster for Days 1 & 2 is TBA
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My friend is the keyboardist for Witherfall. Soooo happy for him. There isn't a single bad entry for these days so I really hope the visa process goes better for next year's fest... it's such a good lineup.
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Ill be seeing Battle BEast soon, haven't gotten a chance to dig into Beast in Black, but I got a feeling I'm already going to really like them. But yea, I expect to be back in ATL next year but I got a lot of homework to get digging into. Probably won't start for another month or so though, just got myself so backed up on music to listen to.
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Shattered Skies should kick ass
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Night Flight Orchestra seem to be an oddball to the progpower sound, but damn do I really like what I've been listening to. Bring on the 80s. :yarr
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Night Flight Orchestra seem to be an oddball to the progpower sound, but damn do I really like what I've been listening to. Bring on the 80s. :yarr
Yeah they're absolutely blowing my mind. I can't be happier with Amber Galactic, whatever they play off that one I will go nuts for. I really want to hear that three song run of Domino, Josephine, and Space Whisperer in particular.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B2_9SXOAE35/
ProgPowerUSA XXV will be the final festival apparently.
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Yup, that was announced last year. I'm really hoping Milton/Nathan takes over or something and that it's not the end of the whole thing. It's really too unique and adored to just disappear completely.
Or maybe someone else completely and moves it somewhere like NYC (I'm being selfish here) just something to keep it going because it's really the only opportunity for Americans to see these bands outside of crazy travel and expenses.
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I agree, I hope it doesn't end. It's too important for so many music fans and bands to get exposure here even if it's just for one night of the year. With the rising VISA issues and Glenn departing, about the only hope people have is like Marc said, that Milton and Nathan take it over. I think they're capable of it, and they have the backing of the fans for sure.
Plus I just started going last year soooo I want to be one of those guys in his 40s that's talking about how it's his 17th ProgPower in 2035 :lol
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:lol
Funny how I sat next to two dudes at the Delain/Amorphis/Anneke show a couple weeks ago and I wore my PP shirt. The guy asks how many have you gone to? "3, what about you?" "17" :rollin It's amazing how so many people have gone to so many.
In other PP news, I've got a lot of homework to do for next year. I'm kind of in a lul this week for new music so started listening to some PP bands I don't know. I mentioned Night Flight Orchestra the other day, but today has been Shattered Skies :metal I feel like this is the modern djent/prog metal band for this year and I'm liking it what I hear.
On the other end, Eternal Tears of Sorrow hasn't really hit me from the few songs I listened to today. Not bad, but the harsh vocals aren't my favorite and kind of take away from the music and the clean vocals I did enjoy.
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My thoughts exactly. The harsh vocals turn me off of what I do like about ETOS - but when there aren't harsh vox, oh man, good stuff. Shattered Skies is a band I'm currently in love with, same with Night Flight Orchestra. Next year is going to be sooo good. NFO in particular has me spellbound with that early Toto vibe and I will be thoroughly intoxicated shaking my booty the whole set :rollin
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:lol yea, their music has a cool groove to it that makes me want to dance like we are at a disco. I'm really really really digging them. I'll be getting their latest album soon (I want it on my phone before my next flight Thursday). I'm guessing their band members are a reason why they are playing the festival (I've read their wiki, soilwork and arch enemy members) because the sound really doesn't fit. Seems like Poets of the Fall for this year, as in a band that's not really metal but has enough relationship to possibly work. I think they are going to be SO MUCH FUN
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I can't imagine if I was still attending these every year.
I went to I II, III, V, and X.
Loved all of them, especially the 1st (PoS), but cost and taste has never found me going back. I still check out the roster every year and follow Glenn/PPUSA on Social Media though.
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I've just come from the future and found footage of myself on the floor while NFO plays Domino next year
(https://i.imgur.com/Ngay8rE.gif)
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I'm in on that :metal :lol
Loved all of them, especially the 1st (PoS), but cost and taste has never found me going back. I still check out the roster every year and follow Glenn/PPUSA on Social Media though.
Taste as in your own taste or the festival's taste has changed?
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I'm in on that :metal :lol
Loved all of them, especially the 1st (PoS), but cost and taste has never found me going back. I still check out the roster every year and follow Glenn/PPUSA on Social Media though.
Taste as in your own taste or the festival's taste has changed?
probably more to do with my own, but in a nutshell: when PPUSA started, they had a lot of Prog Metal bands I wanted to see, and even some Power Metal. Power Metal as-a-whole has never been a genre I've loved, but I find some exceptions.
But there are more artists that play the festival now, even among the Prog Metal acts, that I'm either not into or don't know.
But there are some recent years with groups I'd enjoy seeing, but the cost (beyond budget limits, I would have a hard time justifying it to my wife given she would have no interest whatsoever). But I also find the counter being to just use what money I have on seeing local shows, or in the rare occasion taking a trip with my wife, for something we'd both enjoy (more her primary taste, that I also enjoy).
We'd all like to hold our own festival (hold, not RUN I'm sure), and I would say back in 2001, 2002, 2004, the Prog Metal bands that played or might play PP I loved, but the last decade or more, I would say my primary taste is not with the Prog Metal, as it was back then. Is it because Prog Metal was better back then? maybe. Or perhaps I just am not into traditional sounding Prog Metal, even if so many others that attend PPUSA every year are.
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Yea I can see how progmetal was different in the early 2000s compared to today. Bands like Caligula's Horse or Shattered Skies didn't exist yet and they represent a very different style of progmetal today.
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I've just come from the future and found footage of myself on the floor while NFO plays Domino next year
(https://i.imgur.com/Ngay8rE.gif)
You’d really let some strange dude kiss you like that?
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:lol
I'd be that other chick laughing.
NFO is one band I'm looking towards. Gonna buy my ticket and hope for the best in making the show.
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I've just come from the future and found footage of myself on the floor while NFO plays Domino next year
(https://i.imgur.com/Ngay8rE.gif)
You’d really let some strange dude kiss you like that?
:rollin
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:lol
That strange dude could be me
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:lol
That strange dude could be me
Haha could very well be...
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:lol
That strange dude could be me
I'm the bald one.
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You are but I don't see any bald person in that :lol also if its a fight to kiss Kat, you can win that
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I am clearly the bald hoo-man
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You are but I don't see any bald person in that :lol
I didn't pay close attention to the .gif all the way thru... in the first part, it just looks like a reflection off his dome. :lol
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yup I figured you saw the shine of the head and thought that :lol
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yup I figured you saw the shine of the head and thought that :lol
I guess I'm just so used to seeing that!
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YEAH BUDDY!! One of my favorite guitarists Bill Hudson and his band NorthTale put out one of my favorite records of 2019, their debut "Welcome to Paradise" - and they're playing day 2 of next year's ProgPower! Check out the video here:
https://vimeo.com/user20776087
Although that song is pretty much the one anomaly on the record, 'cause almost everything else is traditional Helloween/Stratovarius-style power metal :2metal:
Every day has at least one band I am massively hyped for and the full day 1-2 roster isn't even announced yet. Power Quest on day 1, NorthTale on day 2, Witherfall and Shattered Skies on day 3, Turilli/Lione Rhapsody on day 4. I CAN'T WAIT!!
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Well, this doesn't do anything to push me closer to wanting to attend. I know that album gets you stiff, Katt... but i thought it was as dry as a popcorn fart.
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That sounds.... not too nice jingle. :lol
Do you like Darkwater at all?
I think you should come next year no matter what. You'll get to know some of the bands better and probably like them. Only a few years left. You have some courtyard time to make up for. It'll be fun. :)
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I was kind of worried the progpower sickness might have made you not want to come back at all
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I don't blame Chad. NorthTale is scratching a very specific power metal itch, and it's a bullseye for Katt. It certainly wouldn't be something I expect Chad to like, they're squarely on the traditional power metal crowd's radar. I don't care if anybody else isn't psyched. I'm hyped AF :lol
Also I agree Chad, and all other forumites, show up :)
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That sounds.... not too nice jingle. :lol
Do you like Darkwater at all?
I think you should come next year no matter what. You'll get to know some of the bands better and probably like them. Only a few years left. You have some courtyard time to make up for. It'll be fun. :)
I do like Darkwater. This years release is their best so far, imo.
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USA has been demanding The Ocean to come back for years and years, looks like they're finally coming back to the next ProgPower :corn
I'm not sure what the progpower crowd is like but if there's anything The Ocean are not it's power metal :lol
https://vimeo.com/365021344?fbclid=IwAR1ITlOmVzaYahE8DihPwWTQBD3jwf7YWVBTaxHuGD2ZfChWmvRQ2R4aSuo
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USA has been demanding The Ocean to come back for years and years, looks like they're finally coming back to the next ProgPower :corn
I'm not sure what the progpower crowd is like but if there's anything The Ocean are not it's power metal :lol
https://vimeo.com/365021344?fbclid=IwAR1ITlOmVzaYahE8DihPwWTQBD3jwf7YWVBTaxHuGD2ZfChWmvRQ2R4aSuo
Not terribly jazzed about this band (wow stop the presses) because of the screams but otherwise it sounds heavy and a good fit for the crowd. Cool beans.
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Tickets for Days 3 & 4 on sale tomorrow morning.
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/0E00573BD10240BC
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Yup, good thing tomorrow is pay day for me
I'm listening to Night Flight Orchestra now, so damn catchy and fun. How I need you Barcelona!
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I scored a free Gold Badge for next year so I'm safe. :2metal:
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I scored a free Gold Badge for next year so I'm safe. :2metal:
Lucky...
Sadly I won't be able to buy my ticket tomorrow so will have to hope someone is selling sometime down the line.
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you know someone will, part of me wants to go down that route too but whatever, I'm like 99% sure I'm going so might as well help the sellout. My only issue though is if ticketmaster has issues again. I've got to head out right after buying my ticket tomorrow so if there's delays, I might miss out and will have to buy off someone.
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I scored a free Gold Badge for next year so I'm safe. :2metal:
Lucky...
Sadly I won't be able to buy my ticket tomorrow so will have to hope someone is selling sometime down the line.
You needn't worry. There's ALWAYS people looking to unload come July/August. I hazard a guess there is usually more supply than demand.
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I scored a free Gold Badge for next year so I'm safe. :2metal:
Lucky...
Sadly I won't be able to buy my ticket tomorrow so will have to hope someone is selling sometime down the line.
You needn't worry. There's ALWAYS people looking to unload come July/August. I hazard a guess there is usually more supply than demand.
I've noticed that a lot this year on the fan page.
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Yeah I think you'll be safe if you buy them later. Maybe not last minute (less than a month from the fest) but between spring and summer yeah you'll have a good chance of getting some. :)
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Yeah I think you'll be safe if you buy them later. Maybe not last minute (less than a month from the fest) but between spring and summer yeah you'll have a good chance of getting some. :)
I'm sure I will. I really don't want to miss NFO and Conception (Mainly for Roy Kahn).
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Ya know, I love Roy, but Conception hasn't been the greatest from my listens of them. There's some good songs but I'm struggling to find anything to really like. I gave them a try like 5 years ago and then again last year when they got back together, and kind of still feel that way as I gave them some more listens last week. I love Roy, but musically I'm not crazy about them. I'll definitely watch their set for Roy alone, I've never got to see him with Kamelot and he used to be one of my favorite singers.
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Thanks ticketmaster for the hour delay fuck up, but all is good now that I got my tickets and good timing too since i need to head out soon. :metal :metal
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Yeah, it's like tradition with Ticketmaster. What I don't understand is how the hell do they handle giant pop/rap star shows when tickets go on sale if they can't handle 1000 people across the country/world for this? WTF?
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If you know someone on the fence about buying tickets, push them off so these last 20 or so will be gone - as would have been the case on the first afternoon but for Ticketbastard. Let's help Glenn to get it sold out - it will only help us all with his marketing the fest to future lineups.
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Awesome...Took this opportunity and secured my tickets. Now to wait and see...
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So I now have the two latest Night Flight Orchestra albums and love them both very much. Very easy music to digest too. I've since moved on to start listening to another band.... Beast in Black :metal I got their latest album last week to have some music to digest while on my work trip. I'm loving this album. It's that cheesey power metal I can get behind. I know this is formed from the original guitarist of Battle Beast and with a similar name, I expected similar music which it is. I love it. Going to be a fun sing along set. I've got to get their other album soon. Another band that is fairly easy to digest, only a handful of listens and I feel like I know the album pretty well.
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Stratovarius is headlining day 2 and words do not describe the levels of hype I am feeling right at this moment. There is no possible way ProgPower can make a lineup that beats what we'll be getting next year. God I hope VISA issues are minimal this time. This is absolutely wild.
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I'd hope the late announcements are because they are trying their best to prevent visa issues. That's a pretty big name in power metal. I haven't listened to them in awhile but I'll have to now.
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Yeah, that's a big name for sure. Still not entirely sure it's big enough to draw me in.
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Stratovarius is headlining day 2 and words do not describe the levels of hype I am feeling right at this moment. There is no possible way ProgPower can make a lineup that beats what we'll be getting next year. God I hope VISA issues are minimal this time. This is absolutely wild.
(https://i.imgur.com/vPaXmXg.gif)
OMG. If they play Forever, that'll make it all the better
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I'm still hoping The Dark Element make it as the last band (#4) for day 2, as according to the description on their new video on youtube "More tour dates are planned for this upcoming album, so expect to see the band on stage again soon." Although I would expect them to be a really hard get so totally not expecting it, just a big wish.
I am digging how its 5 bands on Day 2. I am however a bit worried about day 1 as it's been even more quiet about that show.
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Coincidentally, yesterday I was listening to Distant Skies live and was imagining jamming this in a concert setting. Seeing Marc and Mike shouting Distant Skies.
Im so excited now. This just sealed my Day 2 ticket purchase.
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Hell yeah Ben!! It'll be great to see you.
I am super curious about the set. I can predict quite a bunch off the top of my head; I imagine it'll be a healthy mix of their most famous Tolkki-era classics like Black Diamond, Forever, The Kiss of Judas etc. and several of their new classics like Unbreakable, Halcyon Days, My Eternal Dream... but they have so many songs that fit both those categories that there will be surprises regardless, since they can't fit every classic hit in there. I can almost guarantee Hunting High and Low and Eagleheart, too, those won't eat up too much of the set. Good lord I am about to explode with excitement
I'm also with Marc, I would love The Dark Element to snag that final spot.
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I wouldn't mind The Dark Element at all. Then will have seen all 3 Nightwish singers, haha.
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Sounds like it will be a prog band so no to TDE.
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So day 1 is back to the main room. Honestly really happy about that. Wasn't sure what the vibe would be like not in the same setting.
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Good. Power Quest deserves way better than to play one of the greatest power metal albums of all time in the freaking loft
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I've got to check out that album still. My list of music to listen to for PP is still super long, but I am making dents.
I've got the latest Turilli / Lione album. I think I might like this rebirth and evolution sound more than what I had sampled previously. I know Kat shared some on his top 50 albums and I had checked them out back when Fabio was announced as the temp singer from Kamelot (I had not known of him or Rhapsody back then) and my feelings were always it mgiht be a bit too much going on and maybe a bit too much on the cheese, but I never felt I didn't like it. I feel like there's still a bit much going on for this album, but it's a bit closer to what I enjoy in power metal than I thought from Rhapsody. It's a solid album from front to back. I haven't listened enough to form more opinions, but I enjoy it and that makes me excited for the headliners more so than I was before.
I also got a week of listening to Terraformer by Thank You Scientist. I was pushing them up my list to check out because they are playing locally soon and thought I'd check them out if I enjoyed them (but just booked a work trip ruling this out). Either way, this album is really fucking cool. It's going to need more listens as some songs are long and intense, but musically, this is awesome. The singer took some time to enjoy, he was initially what I didn't like but I've gotten used to his voice and style. I don't love the vocals, but they aren't taking away from the interesting music these guys are creating. It's really unlike anything I heard with the vocals and horn section doing this progressive rock with some heavy metal in there.
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FYI, this particular Turilli/Lione Rhapsody album is a huge departure from the traditional 'Rhapsody' sound (sounds nothing like the stuff on my top 50) - it's much more similar to the two Luca Turilli's Rhapsody album he did a few years ago (2012's Ascending to Infinity and 2015's Prometheus). But they're playing some AWESOME Rhapsody songs when they do shows, so it's going to kick so much ass :2metal:
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I wonder if I'll have the balls by next year to take extended long service leave or even quit my job so I can come over for this?
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Maybe if they get Voyager or Caligulas horse again you can tag along with them.
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Breaking: Pain of Salvation rounding out day 2... playing The Perfect Element, Pt. 1 in full.
Day 1: Power Quest playing Magic Never Dies / everyone else TBA
Day 2: Darkwater > NorthTale > The Ocean > Pain of Salvation > Stratovarius
Day 3: Shattered Skies > Witherfall > Eternal Tears of Sorrow > The Night Flight Orchestra > Jeff Scott Soto's Tribute to Queen > Khanception
Day 4: Arion > Thank You Scientist > Beast In Black > The Gathering > Ihsahn > Turilli / Lione Rhapsody
This is turning out to be the best PPUSA lineup I've ever seen, having looked at all past years. I only dislike Pain of Salvation, and The Ocean and The Gathering haven't sold me based on what I've heard. Everybody else is sick. This is so awesome.
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Adding PoS doesn't do ANYTHING for me. PoS is a different acronym for me, but appropriately ironic.
The only thing that would get me down there at this point is an appearance by Wolfking. For my tastes/opinions:
Very Interested: Darkwater, Arion, Night Flight Orchestra
Interested: Stratovarius, Shattered Skies, Conception
Mildly Interested: The Gathering, Rhapsody, Beast in Black
Meh - everyone else (which is 10 bands - more than all of the above combined).
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The only thing that would get me down there at this point is an appearance by Wolfking.
It's as if our nights in Atlanta meant nothing to you.
I would love for Kade to show up.
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Now thats how you save Days 1-2.
Haven't heard Remedy Lane at all. Guess I have to now. I hope they plays a couple other songs as well.
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Now thats how you save Days 1-2.
Haven't heard Remedy Lane at all. Guess I have to now. I hope they plays a couple other songs as well.
That was my mistake, it's The Perfect Element, Pt. 1 :)
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Now thats how you save Days 1-2.
Haven't heard Remedy Lane at all. Guess I have to now. I hope they plays a couple other songs as well.
That was my mistake, it's The Perfect Element, Pt. 1 :)
My fault as well because I didn't watch the video and saw your post. :lol
Still though, at least I heard TPE.1 a bit. Probably about the same as Remedy Lane. Don't know why, I just never listened to the album.
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I havent listened to PoS in many many years. Guess I will have to give them a listen again and see what I think, I don't remember loving them, but that was so long ago and I can't even recall what they sound like. I'm pretty sure I listened to Remedy Lane though. Thats a cool get regardless. It seems day 2 is always pretty strong.
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I'm not a PoS fan, to put it mildly. But, I do think it's a smart move because a lot of people do.
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Wow, Darkwater is headlining day 2? I might have to get down there for that, unless they do a full U.S. tour to coincide with the appearance. Their new album Human is my album of the year so far.
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Wow, Darkwater is headlining day 2? I might have to get down there for that, unless they do a full U.S. tour to coincide with the appearance. Their new album Human is my album of the year so far.
I think they are the day 2 opener, but highly recommend coming down regardless
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Wow, Darkwater is headlining day 2? I might have to get down there for that, unless they do a full U.S. tour to coincide with the appearance. Their new album Human is my album of the year so far.
Stratovarius is headlining. Darkwater is opening.
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The opener still gets an hour, well usually. Not sure about the 5 band line up this year if that changes things. But typically every band gets at least an hour which is pretty awesome thing about progpower, so even if they are the opener you still get a solid set.
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I'm starting to listen to albums by each band on the lineup. Good so far.
Not really into Ishahn. Great music, but would be better with less harsh vocals.
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Not really into Ishahn either, feel the same. Definitely going to check them out though
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Not really into Ishahn either, feel the same. Definitely going to check them out though
Same here. Music is too good not to miss.
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Just going through PP memory lane and here's another PP jingle yell (NSFW, a quick Fuck Yea! :metal) https://youtu.be/5--lA3OLjK8?t=19 (https://youtu.be/5--lA3OLjK8?t=19) which reminds me I totally forgot about their new album. I should check it out, but being that I have little hope of them coming back to the US soon, it's been placed on the back burner. I haven't heard much about it though but then again I feel like I'd only hear about it here.
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Jingle.yell... FTW!! :metal
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My progpower discovery continues this week. Been listening to Shattered Skies and Arion. I like both of these bands. SHattered Skies seems to be djenty which I can dig, the riffage is awesome here and I enjoy the vocals. I'll need to get an album as I really enjoyed the 20 songs I streamed yesterday. My friend gave me the latest Arion album (Life is Not Beautiful) so I've been listening to that today. I enjoy this melodic metal a lot. It's nothing different but just solid music.
Day 4 is starting off as a really awesome day for me, Arion -> Thank You Scientist -> Beast in Black WOW that's looking like the best three band stretch so far for me. I've got a lot of homework for the day 2 bands though so it's possible there's a better trifecta, but right now, my obsession with Beast in Black is going to be hard to top. I'm actually going to try really hard to see TYS on the 14th but if my flight is delayed coming home by anymore than 15 minutes, it's likely not going to happen. But I really like their Terraformer album a lot. Very different for me, but it's super interesting musically.
Also Arion and Rhapsody's latest albums feature a track with Elize Ryd, would be awesome if she somehow made it out for the day but that's extremely doubtful. Would be cool if they got another female vocalist to sing those songs live though.
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Listen to the Arion debut, Last of us. It's far superior to Life is Not Beautiful
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That first Shattered Skies record is brilliant.
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Listen to the Arion debut, Last of us. It's far superior to Life is Not Beautiful
My same friend said he will give me this album next. That's promising if its far superior though.
That first Shattered Skies record is brilliant.
Maybe I'll get that one then. I haven't even looked at their discography, just let youtube's playlist role as there was no reason to stop it yesterday.
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Cram...For Shattered Skies, I recommend a song called Beneath The Waves.
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Cram...For Shattered Skies, I recommend a song called Beneath The Waves.
Listened to in my youtube playlist a few times already :metal
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Day 1 is official :metal
MINDMAZE will be opening Day #1 with their own unique brand of heavy metal thunder!
Next up will be MARK ZONDER with GARY WEHRKAMP playing a set comprised of songs from the ZW Band, Shadow Gallery, Fates Warning, Warlord and more. The entire set will be presented in SURROUND SOUND – a first for ProgPower USA.
Co-Headliner – the mighty English band POWER QUEST performing their iconic album MAGIC NEVER DIES in its entirety! This will be a one-of-a-kind set that will ONLY BE PERFORMED TONIGHT.
Headliner – DREAM EVIL will finally make their debut ProgPower appearance. Certainly it will go down as a banner show in the Book of Heavy Metal.
On-sale date announced soon!
I hope to see you on Wednesday, 9/9/2020!
Gratefully,
Nathan “The SwordLord” Block
Proud to promote ProgPower USA Day #1
I guess my Dream Evil homework from a couple years ago will pay off (I didn't love them to want to keep going deeper into their discography when they cancelled, but they were good enough to keep on my phone and not turn off when coming on shuffle). Kind of surprised they announced a new headliner though, thought it was Power Quest. Says co-headline so I'd imagine both get 90 minute sets then so not sure it matters besides order. I'm just glad it's a normal day 1 in the main room with 4 bands, while I don't know anything of MARK ZONDER with GARY WEHRKAMP, this feels exactly like what PP Day 1 has been and should continue to hopefully be. I've got to check out Mindmaze but I've heard of them.
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Duuuude. If Power Quest gets co-headline and a full 90 minutes then I wonder what they'll play after MND. Time to message Steve with a Christmas list of requests :gadough:
Looks like Zonder/Wehrkamp released an album this year, so... that's going on my 2019 homework list that will never end apparently :lol
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I don't see why they wouldn't get a 90 minute set, I guess 75 is possible, but as coheadline that usually means the same time unless Dream Evil also is 75 minutes? Whatever, I have lots of homework still. Actually started listening to some Stratovarius recently, not enough to form opinions, but just trying to make some progress on my own homework that is growing.
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That's awesome for Mindmaze!
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That's awesome for Mindmaze!
Lunch band fo sho. Hangover recovery set maybe depending on Tuesday night's shenanigans. :lol
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That's awesome for Mindmaze!
Lunch band fo sho. Hangover recovery set maybe depending on Tuesday night's shenanigans. :lol
You're daft.
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Hella stoked for Mindmaze, and they've gotta be even more so. They've been long time attendees, I'm sure it's huge for them to be taking the stage.
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Any idea when those day 1 and 2 tickets are going to be on sale?
I need Dream Evil.
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Haven't seen any announcement on that
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I'm happy for Mindmaze - it must be really exciting for them. I have to say though - the one time I saw them live, which was just last year, they really seemed like a band who hadn't played live much. I wasn't familiar with their material but they seemed ok while playing. But the stage banter was just cringy and uncomfortable. I felt like uncomfortable for them. A number of people in the audience felt the same because comments were being made during and after the show. (Not loud enough for the band to hear on stage or anything). You don't have to be good at that sort of thing to put on a good show. Just don't talk. Limit it to "thank you so much ProgPower" and "we're so happy to be here" and just play.
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That's awesome for Mindmaze!
Lunch band fo sho. Hangover recovery set maybe depending on Tuesday night's shenanigans. :lol
You're daft.
Indeed. Awesome band :metal
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I'm happy for Mindmaze - it must be really exciting for them. I have to say though - the one time I saw them live, which was just last year, they really seemed like a band who hadn't played live much. I wasn't familiar with their material but they seemed ok while playing. But the stage banter was just cringy and uncomfortable. I felt like uncomfortable for them. A number of people in the audience felt the same because comments were being made during and after the show. (Not loud enough for the band to hear on stage or anything). You don't have to be good at that sort of thing to put on a good show. Just don't talk. Limit it to "thank you so much ProgPower" and "we're so happy to be here" and just play.
Sarah is an awesome singer, but her stage banter has never been a strength. For PP I agree that less will almost certainly be more. I can also guess that for that show in particular they will decide exactly when they want to talk and what will be said.
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Any idea when those day 1 and 2 tickets are going to be on sale?
I need Dream Evil.
It's on their FB now.
Day 2: January 11th
Day 1: February 8th
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Good news on my end re: ProgPower! Once again bringing a new attendee who loves metal to death, and just confirmed my sponsorship for Power Quest. HELL YEAH! Day 2 tickets go on sale this Saturday, friends :metal
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Do we know the prices?
Also,
Listen to the Arion debut, Last of us. It's far superior to Life is Not Beautiful
Started listening to Last of Us this week and wow, you are so right. This blows the second album away and actually makes me really excited to see them.
Still haven't picked up a Shattered Skies album, but consistently listen to them on youtube.
The new Night Flight Orchestra single is awesome, the new album might be really good as the rest.
Started listening to Stratovarious, I actually have the self titled album from many many years ago I think. It wasn't even on my phone because back then I don't think I really loved it, and well, it's just alright in my mind. However, I've listened to some other newer stuff that isn't too bad. Think I'll get one of the newer ones with the current version of the band.
Still lots of homework to do for days 1 and 2. I need to check out that Power Quest album for example. The one song I heard from a PP post on facebook really didn't interest me but I should give the full album a fair shot.
I also watched a full The Gathering concert on youtube last week. I've never been too into them at all, but I found some hope in listening that maybe there's some good stuff in there that I just never dug into to discover. However, they aren't high on my list of homework.
And I listened to Conception's Flow a few more times recently, it's starting to click although I wonder if it's a bit forced from my end. Regardless, I'm a bit more excited to see them today than I was a couple months ago.
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Not sure on prices but I imagine they'll be about $100-110ish... something like that. Hopefully.
Stratovarius won't play a single song from the self-titled, so your best bets are the singles from their last 3-4 albums and a lot of their classic hits. They haven't really promoted a new record since 2015 so I'd bet money that's what their PP set will be. Nemesis and Eternal would be your best bets for new listening, just my two cents though
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Yea, I didn't think so, it's not a great album and I read up on wikipedia about all the member changes so I would think the last couple albums would be better for me to start. They are also playing some festivals this summer, I think that'll give us a good idea on what they will play at PP.
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I think the self-titled freaking rules personally, but it's definitely not popular :lol but even the band didn't play a single song from it on the promo tour because of the internal strife, so yeah. I'm just happy they're finally coming back to play.
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And I listened to Conception's Flow a few more times recently, it's starting to click although I wonder if it's a bit forced from my end. Regardless, I'm a bit more excited to see them today than I was a couple months ago.
Try Parallel Minds, which has more of a progressive/melodic metal feel to it. Flow was a change from their prior style.
They also have a new EP that came out a year ago.
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I really liked the song Flow which is why I went that way, but I can try that one out too. I remember sampling and not being a huge fan of the new songs either, just like I really wasn't a fan of Flow when I started listening to the album. I do love Roy and his singing, it's just the songs besides Flow itself, had not been very catchy or stood out in anyway to make me want to keep listening. Now that I've been starting to enjoy Flow more, I have been finding more songs I do enjoy, in fact I listened to the album again since that post and it was fairly enjoyable. I just can't tell if I forced myself to like them. I'll check out Parallel Minds next.
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It's not a popular take (surprise) but I think their new EP is better than their old stuff; not a fan of the old albums... Grand Again is my favorite Conception song
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Here, I'll help - if that big, crunchy riff in Roll the Fire doesn't get you jamming, you're lost to all hope.
Conception - Roll The Fire (from Parallel Minds).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO1Cg42PKhQ
And here's the title track, with a big, juicy chorus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxxgMWnvBw8
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Yea, a bit heavier but still kind of similar. Not bad but not mind blowing. I'll probably enjoy it more with more listens. But honestly, I'm more hyped about seeing them now than before and that's a positive. I'm starting to feel this years line up is really strong overall the more I dig in.
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Bought my day 2 ticket about 10 minutes ago :)
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Just got mine :metal :metal
Was thinking, funny how they said things would change and maybe the show wouldn't be as big with day 1 being in the loft.... and in the end, it actually got a bit bigger with an extra band on day 2. :metal :metal
Been listening to Stratovarious' latest album, Enigma 2, but I guess that's a compilation album. Regardless, I like what I hear more than the self titled album.
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Just secured mine and saved the email.
Personally Day 2 looks to be an amazing one. Finally getting to hear Forever, which I hope they'll definitely play.
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not for this, but
The Dear Hunter were just announced to headline ProgPower Europe! :tup
https://www.loudersound.com/news/the-dear-hunter-announced-for-progpower-europe?fbclid=IwAR0IFM4ZvOBP2zuBJrESdE2kljDidWz3-axKA1-cpAGCuTxryww1FQtBnNw
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Finally went back this weekend and created all the youtube icons for my PP2019 videos, only took me 4 months...
anyway, the song Oblivion by Stratovarious :hefdaddy really enjoying that one. I want to dig in deeper with their newest albums which I expect to be doing soon. Thinking of ordering a CD too so I can have them sign the cover ala Caligula's Horse last year.
Actually considering buying more physical media than ever so I can bring it to be signed which was never a thing for me until last year, but now that I've got some of my memorabilia on display in my basement, I definitely want to add more.
Also, Darkwater's Human album is fantastic. Day 2 is going to be another huge hit for me this year I am starting to feel it.
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Hey Kat, as you are likely the resident Power Quest expert. Their Magic Never Dies album, is that available on CD anywhere? Their website only shows a digital download. To go back to what I said, I'm thinking of picking up some albums to potentially get signed, being they will play this album and I would like to listen to it, it may be one I want to purchase (assuming its not some crazy cost). Otherwise I'll just get the digital download from their website and scrap the idea for this band. Maybe they will sell it at the festival but I'd rather not buy it in two formats if I can avoid that.
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Hey Kat, as you are likely the resident Power Quest expert. Their Magic Never Dies album, is that available on CD anywhere? Their website only shows a digital download. To go back to what I said, I'm thinking of picking up some albums to potentially get signed, being they will play this album and I would like to listen to it, it may be one I want to purchase (assuming its not some crazy cost). Otherwise I'll just get the digital download from their website and scrap the idea for this band. Maybe they will sell it at the festival but I'd rather not buy it in two formats if I can avoid that.
Power Quest's catalogue prior to Sixth Dimension (possibly excluding Blood Alliance) is out of print, so unless you can find an affordable copy on eBay, discogs etc. you're out of luck. I don't even have physical copies of the old records anymore as I lost them in a car wreck over 10 years ago... They'll likely only have Sixth Dimension for sale at ProgPower (shirts, CD/vinyl maybe), maybe there will be a couple copies of Blood Alliance or Master of Illusion, but I'd be surprised. I think 6D is the only PQ album available on vinyl and they might play one or two songs off that if they have time (likely Kings and Glory, Lords of Tomorrow, or Face the Raven)
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Damn, oh well. I'll buy the download so I can get some listens in then.
Just pre-ordered the new Night Flight Orchestra and also Nemesis by Stratovarious, I like the song Unbreakable.
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Nemesis is so freaking good. Like all the late 90s Strato records were in my top 50 but honestly I could've thrown at least 5 more of their albums in that list, including that one... I have no idea what they'll play at PP from that record. Unbreakable is super likely as is Halcyon Days. I'd like to hear a lot more off that one but they probably won't play more than that, although if I had it my way they'd just play every set, every day of the fest :lol
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Their most recent set which was a short festival set:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/stratovarius/2019/hipodromo-de-los-andes-bogota-colombia-339a6c39.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/stratovarius/2019/hipodromo-de-los-andes-bogota-colombia-339a6c39.html)
I'd imagine they'd play all those for a headline set too. At least that's my current guess, we'll have a better idea when they play some summer shows, but for me, getting to know these songs is a good start.
and here's a full show set:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/stratovarius/2019/teatro-caupolican-santiago-chile-2b9a24f2.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/stratovarius/2019/teatro-caupolican-santiago-chile-2b9a24f2.html)
which includes Oblivion that I really like.
Just so damn hard to get into a band with such a large catalog and many different versions of the band. I think I'm likely to not stray far from the newer albums and their classic songs, for now at least.
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Very strange that they're playing Oblivion. That's not the kind of song they generally throw into their sets. That's cool. Same with 4000 Rainy Nights - that one hasn't really appeared in many sets, AFAIK, since the early 2000s, and is one of my favorite power ballads of all time. Otherwise, yeah, same old hits. Honestly, look at any of their setlists over the last 5 years and you'll get a great idea of what they like to play. Black Diamond, Eagleheart, Hunting High and Low, Phoenix, Forever, Unbreakable, Winter Skies, etc... very large catalogue but their setlists are extremely predictable because they try to squeeze so many classics and popular songs in.
They play nothing from the first 4 records anymore except maybe occasionally Twilight Symphony, I guess. They played that one in 2009 so I was really delighted I got to see that
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I saw they also played Enigma, I'm guessing because they were supporting their latest release which has those songs on it. I like Enigma too. I think I'm liking the recent releases quite a bit from what I've heard so far compared to their older stuff.
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New stuff definitely is a different animal from the old stuff in a lot of ways; the difference between one guy writing 99% of the lyrics/music vs. 4-5 guys collaborating and tweaking lyrics and music together is staggering. For a band heading into its 36th year of existence they sure still sound fresh. Lineup changes were a boon in the case of this band! :corn
I'm only surprised at Enigma and Oblivion being played because they're on a collection of B-sides and that's totally out of the norm for them, but it's awesome to see them shake it up even a little bit. But I didn't get Forever the last time they were in Chicago so they better play it this time damn it :censored
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According to wikipedia, those were new songs for the b-sides compilation album. Not sure what category that puts those songs (Maybe still b-sides in the end?) but I think that's why they are playing them. Oblivion is also considered a single https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma:_Intermission_2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma:_Intermission_2)
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Yeah, they're new compositions specifically for that one, so it does make sense. But maddeningly, their other new composition, Until The End Of Days, isn't on it, it's only on the Best Of that was released recently and that's not even the best compilation they could've made :facepalm: damn labels...
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I've got a little extra cash from working OT soooo flight is booked. About the same cost as usual, but my first flight booked with United Gold status so I get an automatic upgrade to economy plus, so front row (behind first class) booked for both flights. Essentially noon Wednesday to noon sunday will be good times :metal :metal
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Thanks for reminding me to book mine as well. Figure get that out of the way. Still need to Book a room too. Don't know where though?
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Listening to Arions Debut, pretty good stuff. It'd be awesome if they played You're My Melody, that song is a great ballad.
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I really like both of their albums. I can't imagine them not playing that song.
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Day 1 ticket purchased, I know the least about day 1 compared to the rest, but I still want to get that Power Quest album I asked about, but just have been listening to other music (like Stratovarius) I will get to it. Need to check out Mindmaze and I watched some of the youtube videos of Artificial Language which I enjoyed so I will check them out more. Seemed like djenty prog.
also there was this announced for Day 1
I am very proud to announce that the legendary SNOWY SHAW will be performing onstage with DREAM EVIL as a very special addition to the already stellar Day #1 line-up. SNOWY will be performing on drums as well as singing with the band.
In addition, SNOWY will be performing a special ACOUSTIC SET before the show as well as promoting his brand new book – the autobiography The Book of Heavy Metal! SNOWY will be selling and autographing his book in the vendor’s room on Friday & Saturday.
I wish to thank Snowy for his participation in what will be a very memorable performance at ProgPower USA Day #1!
Nathan Block
ProgPower USA
Promoter, Day #1
Curious about the acoustic set before the show, also JSS is doing an acoustic set for gold badgers, I wish I could sneak in for that
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Zero interest in this Snowy Shaw character, personally, but it's cool that there's a bonus set. I'll check it out.
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With the addition of Snowy Shaw, The Ballad is gonna be amazing to witness live. They better play that dammit.
Also, listening to Power Quest and Dream Evil made me want to get a Day 1 ticket now. Since I'm arriving that day, would be neat to see. I wont be upset either if I miss Mindmaze, they're alright.
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Speaking of Witherfall they released a wine!
https://charlieandecho.com/product/2019-witherfall-tempest/
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Rooms at the Artmore are open today for 2021. Going fast.
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I still have to cancel my flight, looks like United will give me a full refund in travel credit, but no money back. I expected that unlike Delta who was giving money back. Either way, I fully expect to use that travel credit regardless so at least they aren't charging me. I just wonder what the costs of flights will be next year if things go back to "normal" and the airlines want to recover their losses.
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I still have to cancel my flight, looks like United will give me a full refund in travel credit, but no money back. I expected that unlike Delta who was giving money back. Either way, I fully expect to use that travel credit regardless so at least they aren't charging me. I just wonder what the costs of flights will be next year if things go back to "normal" and the airlines want to recover their losses.
That's what I'm waiting on.
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I wonder the same thing about concerts too, I feel like when things open up, it's going to be a much more expensive hobby than it already was
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Could it go the opposite way though? I mean, some people will have enjoyed the extra savings they've had during this time if they were able to keep working. Some people will be recovering. Some people might not be super excited to get back on a plane. So wouldn't it be better to lower prices to entice people to come back?
It's possible that I'm just being overly optimistic.
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I think people are very eager to get back to going to shows. Of course many are not going to and that's why you won't see shows this year, but by next year if things are getting back to normal (the key here), I think you might see prices increase not only because consumers would feel OK going to an event, but also because of all the lost revenue from 2020 that venues/artists/livenation will want to try and recover. That's why I think it's similar to airlines, these businesses have and are losing a lot of money and are just trying to stay afloat. Concerts halls won't get the bailout airlines do, so I think it's even more likely we might see increase in concert ticket prices. Also, livenation's summer tours were giving back a %125 credit, I believe, if you opted for that. To me, that's also a hint that things might be more expensive next year.
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Green Carnation for ProgPower next year. :)
*Now* I am excited. :)
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Green Carnation for ProgPower next year. :)
*Now* I am excited. :)
ooohh... not a bad replacement for NFO.
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That's pretty cool. Not really a fan so it doesn't nearly make up for NFO imo. I don't dislike them but they're just so boring
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That's pretty cool. Not really a fan so it doesn't nearly make up for NFO imo. I don't dislike them but they're just so boring
Stratovarius is also cancelled and replaced by Judas Priest, Glenn just posted it on FB
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Glenn wasn't exaggerating when he posted that their previous set was one of the best in festival history. I'm not going to hold them to that standard, but I do have high expectations. Even their live stream was pretty awesome.
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That's pretty cool. Not really a fan so it doesn't nearly make up for NFO imo. I don't dislike them but they're just so boring
Stratovarius is also cancelled and are replaced by Judas Priest, Glenn just posted it on FB
:lol :lol
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Wait until PowerQuest is replaced with Threshold!
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Jokes are on both of ya'll, bands don't get booked two years in a row and ProgPower couldn't come anywhere close to affording Priest. :biggrin:
And even if Strato does cancel (new album on the horizon, lots of touring to do), I still got PQ, NorthTale, and Witherfall. Can't bring the walrus down, mofos!
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Jokes are on both of ya'll, bands don't get booked two years in a row
But these are unprecedented times! Maybe not Threshold... maybe Maiden uniteD? :lol
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Jokes are on both of ya'll, bands don't get booked two years in a row
But these are unprecedented times! Maybe not Threshold... maybe Maiden uniteD? :lol
Not today, Satan.
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The Green Carnation set in 2016 was amazing. I'm very excited to see them again.
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A limited number of tickets are back on sale because of those who elected for a refund when the festival was delayed. Get yours now and help spread the word.
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Sucks people wanted a refund, but really hard to blame them with so much uncertainty in the world these days.
As for Green Carnation, I'll have to check them out. I only saw a bit of the 2016 set and not enough to have any real opinion on them, but I'm just still a bit upset NFO are out. I know it's nothing of the festivals fault and I know them not being really prog or power would make them a harder band to replace (doing like for like as the festival traditionally does), but that set was probably my most looked forward to because it would have just been so fun and different for the crowd. Also Aeromantic is such a good album, hopefully they can make it to another PP in the future or maybe do a US tour or something. I really want to see them one day. Conga line dreams at PP are postponed.
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Marc... the 60 minute investment in Light of Day, Day of Darkness is worth it. I would recommend giving it your attention at least twice - and bear thru the lull in the middle. If it clicks, it is SOOOOO worth it.
Oh, and the new album is pretty hawt. Other than that, rely on Lethean - who knows more than I do about their discog.
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LoDDoD is super overrated imo, which means you will love it. Everybody else and their bleeding mothers do, anyway
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LoDDoD is super overrated imo, which means you will love it. Everybody else and their bleeding mothers do, anyway
Hot take # 743
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LoDDoD is super overrated imo, which means you will love it. Everybody else and their bleeding mothers do, anyway
Hot take # 743
Is it really a hot take? Green Carnation has what, 20 fans outside of the ProgPower USA crowd? I do a big sleep
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LoDDoD is super overrated imo, which means you will love it. Everybody else and their bleeding mothers do, anyway
Hot take # 743
Is it really a hot take? Green Carnation has what, 20 fans outside of the ProgPower USA crowd? I do a big sleep
Like no? Even my best friend (who's kinda into prog metal) and his dad (who's absolutely not into prog metal) like Green Carnation. Also, Green Carnation, The Dear Hunter and Wilderun were my biggest draws to ProgPower Europe this year.
Hey Katt, what's your opinion on The Dear Hunter and Wilderun? Just thinking if I should quit your roulette now or persevere.
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LoDDoD is super overrated imo, which means you will love it. Everybody else and their bleeding mothers do, anyway
Hot take # 743
:lol considering I side with Mr Walrus' musical opinions about 10% of the time, this is more likely a sign that I'll enjoy it. And if everyone and their bleeding mothers enjoy, that's also a good sign. Having said that, I have never heard of this band outside of the PP community.
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I actually got into Green Carnation well after Light of Day, Day of Darkness. I didn't know anything about the band or that they had an album like that. I started with The Quiet Offspring, which is very different from their other stuff. I was kinda underwhelmed at first, didn't really like the singer, etc.
But something stayed with me enough to keep it and it really grew on me. Also, I saw them live at a small bar around that time and they were really good.
So I went back and discovered Light of Day, Day of Darkness. It needed some growing time too, but for me there's definitely something special about it. So, I will agree with jingle that you should check that album out just because it's so good. And I also agree with him about the lull in the middle - sometimes I listen to the whole thing and sometimes I skip through it.
However, I doubt they'll be playing it at ProgPower next year. So don't use it as your ProgPower prep. On their recent live stream, they did a mix of all of the rest of their albums, so it's hard to say where you should start. However, they don't have that many, so I say just listen to them all. :) - Edit: you can probably skip their first album as far as ProgPower prep goes; it doesn't have their current singer and the redid one of those songs anyway for their latest album.
I have a soft spot for The Quiet Offspring because it was my first (and hopefully ariich likes the songs I sent him from that album). I revisited it earlier this year and remembered again how much I like it and have been listening to it, and the band in general, a lot lately. I couldn't believe it when they were announced for ProgPower - perfect timing for me and I can't wait to see them again.
I'll add one, or two, more things. I don't know why, but their singer is way way way more impressive live than he is on the albums. At least for me. And second, you've probably read people raving about their 2016 set. Deservedly so. I can't even explain how good it was. But I'll caution against measuring them against that set. Both for those like me who saw it, and those who didn't. The setlist will obviously be different, and I imagine there will be a different vibe to their set next year than there was to that one. No need to hype it up in your mind so much that the real thing can only be a bit of a let down.
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I went into PP16 not having heard a single note of Green Carnation. Within 15 minutes of their set I was on my phone quickly buying LoDDoD from Amazon. It was a truly phenomenal set, one of my favorites of the festival even though I was not familiar with them. Album is just as good, and deserving of the accolades it receives.
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That's awesome. :) It was just one of those experiences you can't really explain.
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I went into PP16 not having heard a single note of Green Carnation. Within 15 minutes of their set I was on my phone quickly buying LoDDoD from Amazon. It was a truly phenomenal set, one of my favorites of the festival even though I was not familiar with them. Album is just as good, and deserving of the accolades it receives.
I remember that ... you elbowing me showing me the amazon receipt. :lol
It is probably the most impressive concert moment I've ever experienced.
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All this talk made me rewatch A Night Under the Dam, and yeah, I still love it as much as before. I like the metal side of the band, but this acoustic performance might be my favourite thing they've released so far.
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Man I just do not get what people see in GC :lol
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All this talk made me rewatch A Night Under the Dam, and yeah, I still love it as much as before. I like the metal side of the band, but this acoustic performance might be my favourite thing they've released so far.
Yeah - that's a great performance. It's not my favorite of everything, but I'd love to see an acoustic show from them in person one day. I guess for now I'll just consider myself lucky to be seeing them at all.
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Man I just do not get what people see in GC :lol
Personally, I spend more time *listening* to them. Maybe that’s your problem! :neverusethis:
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Man I just do not get what people see in GC :lol
I finally gave LoDDoD a listen a few weeks ago. I shut it off at about the 9 minute mark. There was literally nothing going on in it.
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Man I just do not get what people see in GC :lol
I finally gave LoDDoD a listen a few weeks ago. I shut it off at about the 9 minute mark. There was literally nothing going on in it.
Imagine if Mrs TAC shut you off 1/6 of the way in. She’d never know your brilliance!
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Yeah, I'd say if you're going to give it a try, at least listen to the whole thing. I never have really come to like the middle part all that much, but I do listen to it from time to time to see if my mind's changed. But the rest is great. Or maybe listen to the live version (Last Day of Darkness), if they have it somewhere where you could stream it.
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Man I just do not get what people see in GC :lol
I finally gave LoDDoD a listen a few weeks ago. I shut it off at about the 9 minute mark. There was literally nothing going on in it.
Imagine if Mrs TAC shut you off 1/6 of the way in. She’d never know your brilliance!
I don't need any help shutting off 1/6th of the way in. :lol
Yeah, I'd say if you're going to give it a try, at least listen to the whole thing. I never have really come to like the middle part all that much, but I do listen to it from time to time to see if my mind's changed. But the rest is great. Or maybe listen to the live version (Last Day of Darkness), if they have it somewhere where you could stream it.
I tried. I just couldn't go on with it. Seemed kind of pointless. I'll give it another shot some day.
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Sad Times as we all would've been getting ready, on our way, or actually there in Atlanta for this years ProgPower.
Out of all the bands, Stratovarius is the reason I really wanted to attend this year. The rest just solidified it for me.
The disappointment of this year (other than the virus) is The Night Flight Orchestra not being able to play. That set would've added a lot of fun to the entire fest. As good as Green Carnation is a good replacement, they're an entirely different mood of what TNFO would have brought. Doesn't matter to me as much though, because I'll be able to see them, and it'll be more than one song at that.
Gonna be watching videos I can find of the past ProgPowers. And I'm still waiting for my Redemption Blu-Ray to arrive so I can relive that set.
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Yea, this hurts a lot as I'd be flying out tomorrow morning and hanging with everyone by the afternoon before the music starts. Man, everytime has been so damn fun and we get none of that this year.
I made this playlist yesterday of 33 bands playing 1 song each from the 3 progpowers I attended. I guess my own little virtual fest from previous shows. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xat1WaNEGsD7A_gwnFf57n0LC_WNm-u (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xat1WaNEGsD7A_gwnFf57n0LC_WNm-u) I've been watching a lot of these lately, but it kind of bums me out so I can't watch too much.
NFO dropping out is definitely the worst of the news regarding the postponement, but at the end of the day, not getting to relish in the overall vibe of the festival hurts even more.
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I didn't even know Dream Evil did a Live Stream. I didn't look at the Streaming Concert Thread either to check.
But here it is...
https://youtu.be/jFGHQfF0EaY
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Beast in Black are now a US exclusive for next year :metal I guess they won't be touring with Hammerfall after like they were supposed to this year.
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Beast in Black are now a US exclusive for next year :metal I guess they won't be touring with Hammerfall after like they were supposed to this year.
Let's see how many ticket buyers that adds
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Good, I didn't want to risk watching Hammerfail anyway :lol :lol
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Beast in Black are now a US exclusive for next year :metal I guess they won't be touring with Hammerfall after like they were supposed to this year.
:censored
I was really wanting to see them with Hammerfall. I won't be traveling to Progpower just to see them though.
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and.... Beast in Black are out :facepalm: ugh, Im starting to feel like moving it from 2021 to 2022 is the better money decision and more likely to happen in the way we all want it to.
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and.... Beast in Black are out :facepalm: ugh, Im starting to feel like moving it from 2021 to 2022 is the better money decision and more likely to happen in the way we all want it to.
What do you mean by this?
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and.... Beast in Black are out :facepalm: ugh, Im starting to feel like moving it from 2021 to 2022 is the better money decision and more likely to happen in the way we all want it to.
What do you mean by this?
As in the bands we all expected to play actually are able to come and perform, and who knows if there are restrictions on how concerts will operate (like limited capacity or curfews). I mean, I hope by then we are back to normal or closer to it, but so much up in the air. I'd bet a lot of money we see more line up changes as the year goes on as well.
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and.... Beast in Black are out :facepalm: ugh, Im starting to feel like moving it from 2021 to 2022 is the better money decision and more likely to happen in the way we all want it to.
What do you mean by this?
As in the bands we all expected to play actually are able to come and perform, and who knows if there are restrictions on how concerts will operate (like limited capacity or curfews). I mean, I hope by then we are back to normal or closer to it, but so much up in the air. I'd bet a lot of money we see more line up changes as the year goes on as well.
I think it's a bit early to start worrying about that personally but replacements and cancellations are the norm and to be expected especially right now so I wouldn't be too fussed, maybe by spring if the pandemic is still ripping America a new ass, then it might be time to think about cancelling the trip haha. I'm a bit sad I won't be seeing Yannis live cause he's crazy good but oh well. Hopefully the replacement is good and not more angsty prog metal :lol
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Well we already saw the first wave of replacements in 2020, so another round of replacements and lack of bands available makes me think this years line up may be uninteresting and it makes this festival very different from the rest as having two rounds of cancellations is not the norm. I already, before this announcement, find it to be my least interested line up and my two most wanted bands are out already. Of course it's a bit early, but as Glen mentioned a couple weeks ago, they haven't applied for the visas yet and we just don't know whats going to happen. It might be safer to hold onto the money and push back to 2022 before they spend the money and its gone without the bands even being able to show up. Obviously that call doesn't need to be made now, but I think it should be considered as we get closer and if the pandemic doesn't get better.
Also, Beast in Black are confirmed for the 2022 festival already.
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Well, I think this is the most interesting year they've had for a very long time, and a bunch of people I know are still super excited for a lot of bands :lol everything will be fine! Hopefully they get an act you're actually interested in at least
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Well, I think this is the most interesting year they've had for a very long time, and a bunch of people I know are still super excited for a lot of bands :lol everything will be fine! Hopefully they get an act you're actually interested in at least
This is hardly even my argument for pushing back as that's a personal preference about the bands. It's about not throwing away the money PP has. Listen to what Glenn says, if they spend the money on visas this year, that money is gone regardless of what happens and if the festival can't happen, that might mean the end of Progpower. I'm talking about avoiding risk, if possible. And it doesn't need to happen now, but at some point in 2021 they will have to make the call.
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I didn't say that was your argument, and I agree with/know all of that... so... ???
Just saying we don't need to worry just yet, and that hopefully they book someone you like...
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Well we already saw the first wave of replacements in 2020, so another round of replacements and lack of bands available makes me think this years line up may be uninteresting and it makes this festival very different from the rest as having two rounds of cancellations is not the norm. I already, before this announcement, find it to be my least interested line up and my two most wanted bands are out already. Of course it's a bit early, but as Glen mentioned a couple weeks ago, they haven't applied for the visas yet and we just don't know whats going to happen. It might be safer to hold onto the money and push back to 2022 before they spend the money and its gone without the bands even being able to show up. Obviously that call doesn't need to be made now, but I think it should be considered as we get closer and if the pandemic doesn't get better.
Also, Beast in Black are confirmed for the 2022 festival already.
Good to hear they didn't get the band visas yet.
It's nuts, because the Music Industry is at a standstill, and unsure of what is going to happen with Live Touring. It's in limbo, and trying to keep all that goes into Live shows still going. Venues, are also struggling to keep afloat. Some are streaming Live Shows, local bands, not really doing that great. But it's something. If we fans want to see Live Music again, we need to be supporting these venues, and bands, now more than ever. But, that is also hard, as everyone is in the struggle of unsureness, we don't know things will change as we continue on.
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Unleash the Archers seem to be the Beast in Black replacement, amazing replacement! :metal
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Unleash the Archers seem to be the Beast in Black replacement, amazing replacement! :metal
Yeah, that’s an upgrade for Glenn for sure.
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Unleash the Archers seem to be the Beast in Black replacement, amazing replacement! :metal
I know what I'm using my Bandcamp Giftcard for...
Their new album is pretty good. Of what I could hear on Bandcamp. Great videos for Abyss, and Faster Than Light.
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Abyss is a really strong album
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Abyss is a really strong album
I listened to their first 2 albums, and you can hear a vast difference in the songwriting. Good stuff, either way.
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It is with sadness and resignation, I must announce the postponement of ProgPower USA again this year. The unknown circumstances surrounding the current pandemic has simply made it impossible to move forward with safety & logistical planning. Despite progress and optimism for the fall in the U.S., consideration has to be taken into account for both international bands and attendees who are experiencing different circumstances and restrictions.
ProgPower USA XXI will now take place June 1-4, 2022. Please note your current tickets will automatically carry forward to 2022. The same Ticketmaster protocol will be followed as last year in regards to any refund requests over the next 30 days as of April 6th. The following bands are **CONFIRMED** to return for Days 3 & 4 next year: Conception, Turilli/Lione Rhapsody, Jeff Scott Soto, Green Carnation, Witherfall, Thank You Scientist, and Aether Realm. Replacements for two bands will be announced very soon. The remaining three bands are unconfirmed at present. Those bands and I are working hard to resolve the situation.
The promoters for Day 1 (Nathan Block) and Day 2 (Milton Mendonca) will be issuing their own statements in regards to their rosters separately.
Please join me on Facebook live tonight at 8pm EST for a detailed explanation of past events and our current issues still to be finalized. I will also take questions. Thanks for your understanding, patience, and much needed support during these unprecedented times.
Glenn
I'm guessing Shattered Skies and Unleash The Archers...But man....I really hope Stratovarius can still make it. And I hope I can still make it. But those dates are not very promising.
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Interesting that it's being pushed to summer 2022 and not fall of 2022. Not surprising, I wouldn't be surprised if Center Stage is open come September, but being able to get international bands over here still seems unlikely by then so it makes sense to just pull the plug and not loose any more money.
It would be great if they could get Beast in Black and Night Flight Orchestra back on the roster. As of now, that's too far out to have any issue with the dates, but I don't plan on giving my tickets back.
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Interesting that it's being pushed to summer 2022 and not fall of 2022. Not surprising, I wouldn't be surprised if Center Stage is open come September, but being able to get international bands over here still seems unlikely by then so it makes sense to just pull the plug and not loose any more money.
It would be great if they could get Beast in Black and Night Flight Orchestra back on the roster. As of now, that's too far out to have any issue with the dates, but I don't plan on giving my tickets back.
That would be nice. I am not planning on not going either.
The main draw for me going in the first place is Stratovarius. And I am expecting them to be dropped as well as PoS.
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I was right with Shattered Skies...
It is with regret I must announce Shattered Skies will not be able to participate next year at ProgPower USA XXI. The band will release their own statement in the coming days. I wish them nothing but the best in the future.
When one door closes, another opens. I'd like to welcome Arch Echoto the roster. Their brand of technical & tasteful prog metal/fusion will appeal to fans of Liquid Tension Experiment. On a personal note, they are the first instrumental band I have booked in 20 years. The amount of talent on display is incredible.
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The upside is the replacement is Arch Echo and that is a well worthy replacement. I've seen them live and they're just as good live if not better. The energy from the studio albums is still there and it hits twice as hard. Especially those calm to loud moments.
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Arch Echo is amazing. Great band in a live setting. I first heard them opening for Tony Macalpine in San Antonio a few years back and became an instant fan. Then most of the band backed up Tony Mac as his band. Very talented guys.
Then I saw them opening up for Plini and Periphery. One of the best concerts I've ever attended.
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An instrumental band doesn't totally interest me although I haven't listened to this band so I will check them out before I say anything more.
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An instrumental band doesn't totally interest me although I haven't listened to this band so I will check them out before I say anything more.
Check them out Cram. They are definitely more melodical than LTE as they rely more on composition than improvisations.
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An instrumental band doesn't totally interest me although I haven't listened to this band so I will check them out before I say anything more.
Check them out Cram. They are definitely more melodical than LTE as they rely more on composition than improvisations.
I'll echo this...
I recommend Measure of A Life, Color wheel, and Iris..
https://archecho.bandcamp.com/
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An instrumental band doesn't totally interest me although I haven't listened to this band so I will check them out before I say anything more.
Check them out Cram. They are definitely more melodical than LTE as they rely more on composition than improvisations.
Definitely. I often think LTE are wanking around with their playing just because they can, and are all individually competing for the listeners attention. Arch Echo is well composed music, along with technical mastery.
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Getting really excited for PPUSA to return in June.
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Getting really excited for PPUSA to return in June.
I'm a bit lukewarm atm. Mostly because I'm concerned if it still happens (I lean towards yes it will) but more importantly, what line up changes are going to happen still. Basically every line up change has lowered my enthusiasm, of no fault to the people running the show, and it's more of my tastes type of thing. I've considered the idea of trying to offload my ticket, cut my loses, and save on not spending on airfare/hotel. But really, this festival is a great time and I think even if the line up isn't for me, I will still have fun. I'll be more excited when we get closer and things are 100% locked.
In case anyone is wondering, here's the current line up after some major changes to Day 1 (hope I didn't screw it up, since the website isn't updated this is based on facebook posts from the last month or so):
Day 1:
Hypocrisy
Flotsam & Jetsam
Klone
Mindmaze
Day 2:
Stratovarius
Pain of Salvation
Seven Spires
NorthTale
Wilderun
Day 3:
Conception
Jeff Scott Soto (Performing a Special Queen Tribute Set)
Jason Bieler and the Baron Von Bielski Orchestra
Witherfall
Ćther Realm
Arch Echo
Day 4:
Turilli/Lione Rhapsody
Ihsahn
Ray Alder
Brothers of Metal
Thank You Scientist
Arion
I think I want to see Arion the most, followed by Witherfall and Stratovarius. I'd love to meet Roy Khan for the Conception meet and greet as well.
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Flotsam & Jetsam :metal :metal
That's a curious addition to the lineup. There's nothing prog about them. :lol
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Flotsam & Jetsam :metal :metal
That's a curious addition to the lineup. There's nothing prog about them. :lol
New addition as a replacement band. They are from the US so them performing is likely a lock as they won't have to deal with visas. But also, the fest may be named progpower but there's no rule the band needs to be either. There's always some who don't fit the description who perform. I don't think I had ever listened to them until the announcement of them being a replacement band, I liked what I heard.
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Flotsam & Jetsam :metal :metal
That's a curious addition to the lineup. There's nothing prog about them. :lol
New addition as a replacement band. They are from the US so them performing is likely a lock as they won't have to deal with visas. But also, the fest may be named progpower but there's no rule the band needs to be either. There's always some who don't fit the description who perform. I don't think I had ever listened to them until the announcement of them being a replacement band, I liked what I heard.
I've been a huge F&J fan since I saw them on their first tour in 1987. Their last three albums have been fantastic, and Blood In The Water was my 2021 AOTY.
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:metal the seem like my most interested in band for Day 1 for sure, I need to listen more
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Glad to see days 3 & 4 are sold out again. Looking forward to all 4 days.
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Officially all booked now for the festival :metal
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I still need to book a hotel, but then I am thinking of selling my tickets. I really still want to go to see Stratovarius mainly. That is the only reason I want to attend this year.
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I had thought about selling my tickets and cutting my losses with all the line up changes and the new schedule being in June, but I've started to warm up to a lot of the replacement bands (Wilderun for example) and I just know the environment alone will bring good times and fun. I'm now VERY much looking forward to this now as it starts to get close. Also, just the vacation part of it as well. It'll be nice to get away for a long weekend.
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I might just go and do it up. I just need to get my work situated first and we'll see.
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I had thought about selling my tickets and cutting my losses with all the line up changes and the new schedule being in June, but I've started to warm up to a lot of the replacement bands (Wilderun for example) and I just know the environment alone will bring good times and fun. I'm now VERY much looking forward to this now as it starts to get close. Also, just the vacation part of it as well. It'll be nice to get away for a long weekend.
Well, I convinced myself to go and found some good deals on a flight and hotel. It's not close by, but close enough by the MARTA to take that back, and I can also Lyft or Uber if it's closed by the time the show ends.
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The lineup went from being amazing to being pretty bad imo. Lots of bands I was dying to see but most canceled. Got everything booked though so I'm still going.
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The lineup went from being amazing to being pretty bad imo. Lots of bands I was dying to see but most canceled. Got everything booked though so I'm still going.
I definitely hear you on that. But I mainly want to see Stratovarious, so that alone was my deciding factor.
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The lineup went from being amazing to being pretty bad imo. Lots of bands I was dying to see but most canceled. Got everything booked though so I'm still going.
I definitely hear you on that. But I mainly want to see Stratovarious, so that alone was my deciding factor.
Yup, that's my #1 too. At least they're still playing. If they had dropped, I just wasn't gonna go.
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I think Arion is my #1 to see this year, I love their newest album.
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The lineup went from being amazing to being pretty bad imo. Lots of bands I was dying to see but most canceled. Got everything booked though so I'm still going.
I definitely hear you on that. But I mainly want to see Stratovarious, so that alone was my deciding factor.
Yup, that's my #1 too. At least they're still playing. If they had dropped, I just wasn't gonna go.
Same here, If they were announced earlier they dropped, I would've sold my ticket a while back.
I was really looking forward to seeing Shattered Skies just as much too.
But it is what it is, and I am going to make the best of the bands that will be playing.
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I really wanted to see Night Flight Orchestra, that would have been such a blast
It is what it is. Sucks for the promoters who I know can only do so much in any given year and had it 10x worse with the covid postponements. But at least the main days are sold out so its not like this year will be a total failure.
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I really wanted to see Night Flight Orchestra, that would have been such a blast
It is what it is. Sucks for the promoters who I know can only do so much in any given year and had it 10x worse with the covid postponements. But at least the main days are sold out so its not like this year will be a total failure.
It would have been amazing to form a conga line for their set. :lol
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I assume there are those who read these posts, have never been to ProgPower and are considering going in the future. It does the festival and its promoters a disservice to refer to the lineup as "bad," even if tagging on an "imo." Although there is certainly subjectivity in feelings about bands, I see no fair usage of the word to describe this lineup. The lineup is full of excellent bands, the majority of which were on the initial announcement for 2020. If there is a need to criticize for a band not appearing this year, that criticism would be better placed on the band who chose not to reschedule -- although in almost every case it seems the festival believes the reschedulings to have been made only after reasonable efforts to appear (with some out of the band's control). It is likely that no one is more disappointed than Glenn that Night Flight is unable to make it this year and the festival doesn't control Covid or its effects on bands and visa processing. Speaking for myself, while I'm disappointed that some bands can't be there, I continue to count the days to returning to that magical place that is ProgPower.
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Glenn, is that you? :biggrin: (but clearly you are part of the festival, 9 posts on the site all for progpower including pushing ticket sales)
I think it's fair to say that while some, including myself, have expressed some disappointment in the line up changes, all have said they are still going so I think that shows the festival is a bit more than just the bands. I know I still respect the hell out of the work that goes into putting this on. I've warmed up to some of the new bands so even a band like Jason Bieler who I wasn't familiar with (and I don't love his album now that I've checked it out a few times) will present something unique and interesting. It's going to be a fun time.
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No, I'm not associated with the festival. Just a big fan and part of a group of people who love attending. I created this thread to promote the fest and help spread the word. As you note, I don't normally post on DTF, but I do read and felt the need to respond on this topic. It is certainly fair to be disappointed about lineup changes -- most years, I feel that also (in particular this time losing "replacement band" Green Carnation). However, I don't believe any lineup change has ever caused by the festival. Usually it is the visa folks, as you know well. This time there were additional understandable factors on the side of the bands regarding an ability to commit again to a postponed show. Just making clear that PPUSA didn't chose to lose bands and the lineup has many great ones. I'm not saying there was intent to disparage. I am just admittedly defensive of the festival. See you in Atlanta!
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Yep, it's usually visa issues... Except that time James was all lol nope.
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Yes, James did the festival wrong. Fortunately, Mike stepped up again and it ended up better. Teramaze was another like that, too.
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I don't think it does a disservice at all. It's just my opinion. I still love the fest. Just not this year's lineup. Before covid and all the cancelations, the original lineup was one of the best festival lineups for my taste I would've ever gone to. Now not so much. It's valid to express my personal disappointment in it. To me, yeah, it isn't an interesting lineup. That had nothing to do with my respect and admiration for the promoters, one of whom I'm friends with and love to death. Fully aware of how hard up against the wall they are this year and every year. I'm just gonna party more than watch the bands this time. Not complaining about that.
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However, I don't believe any lineup change has ever caused by the festival. Usually it is the visa folks, as you know well. This time there were additional understandable factors on the side of the bands regarding an ability to commit again to a postponed show. Just making clear that PPUSA didn't chose to lose bands and the lineup has many great ones. I'm not saying there was intent to disparage. I am just admittedly defensive of the festival. See you in Atlanta!
Yeah, no one blamed the festival for the cancelations and I think we all agree the fest does best with the hand it's dealt. Like Melphina, the original line up just suited my tastes better. That's all. It's going to be fun. Curious about the bands for next year, maybe it will be include some who couldn't do this year's.
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It's valid to express my personal disappointment in it. To me, yeah, it isn't an interesting lineup. That had nothing to do with my respect and admiration for the promoters, one of whom I'm friends with and love to death. Fully aware of how hard up against the wall they are this year and every year. I'm just gonna party more than watch the bands this time. Not complaining about that.
Certainly your opinion is as valid as mine. Glad to see your festival comments.
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Getting myself ready for the show, listening to albums to familiarize myself with all the bands music and styles more.
Listening and seeing videos of Spektra. I wonder if Jeff Scott Soto will end up guesting on one of their songs.
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One week away!
I watched Glen's latest video about the fest and very happy to hear that all bands are still doing the signing sessions. Just need to remember to bring a mask each day since you'll have to wear it for when you get to meet the bands it seems. Not a big deal, although I do hope to be able to get to meet and take pictures with some of the bands like past festivals. My picture with Tommy Karevik for example is one of my all time favorite selfies. And my pic with Mayan is so fucking cool. But I understand the situation and am just happy it's still happening. I've got some things to bring now to get signed.
Also sounds like there won't be any food inside the venue. Not that the pizza was anything special, but it was usually clutch to have it available right there because historically with the bands and signing sessions, I often forgot to eat so being able to grab a slice was pretty useful, I guess I'll be hitting up that whole foods more. A cashless bar isn't a big change for me either since almost all the venues around here are like that now too.
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Getting in Tuesday afternoon, staying at the Artmore. Can't wait.
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See ya there, I arrive Wednesday afternoon :metal
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Ooh I see Riot V is on the bill! They kick ass. Great band! And Flotsam & Jetsam! :metal
Two of my favorites!
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Flotsam and Jetsam is easily my most looked forward to band on Wednesday. Been listening to them a bunch lately. I think ever since I went to that Testament/Exodus/Death Angel show a few weeks ago, I've been really enjoying thrash more so seeing them is going to be a lot of fun. I've also recently watched Get Thrashed: The Story of Thrash Metal on amazon prime, not going to say I'm all of the sudden a huge thrash fan, but I think I've been enjoying the genre maybe more than ever.
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Flotsam and Jetsam is easily my most looked forward to band on Wednesday. Been listening to them a bunch lately. I think ever since I went to that Testament/Exodus/Death Angel show a few weeks ago, I've been really enjoying thrash more so seeing them is going to be a lot of fun. I've also recently watched Get Thrashed: The Story of Thrash Metal on amazon prime, not going to say I'm all of the sudden a huge thrash fan, but I think I've been enjoying the genre maybe more than ever.
In that genre, F&J's vocals are much easier on the ears. Their last three albums are amazing, especially last year's Blood In The Water.
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Yeah, I can see that. And I do enjoy the recent music more than the old. Haven't listened to an entire album though. Just various songs on youtube and I bought the Live in Phoenix CD/DVD
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The latest F&J is soooo good. Don't care about Riot though. And their mascot is the worst thing ever :lol
Heading to the airport now. :2metal:
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I have landed...
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Yall, that Klone ain't half bad!!
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Yall, that Klone ain't half bad!!
Saw them last week. Loved their set.
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Yall, that Klone ain't half bad!!
I saw a few songs on a buddy's livestream, seemed pretty solid.
How'd MindMaze do? I was very stoked to see Jeff and Sara get the nod to open.
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Klone was okay. Talented singer (don’t tell Jackie) but after one song you know how every other song sounds. I was pretty bored.
Though their Bjork cover was pretty awesome.
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Klone was pretty solid, but Adami nailed how I feel. The songs are all too similar, about half way through their set I was starting to get a little bored. But they were still good. Sounded really good and had a lot of energy. I didn't record any of their songs though, but had a lot of footage I'll edit when I get home.
Flotsam and Jetsam - Brace for Impact (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgSWNWok2sY)
Easily the best set of the night IMO was Flotsam. They also sounded really good and tight. The bassist commented that he liked my Haken shirt.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUM-Cr9WUAAZ3tG?format=jpg&name=large)
Mindmaze were pretty good too. First time even listening to them, went in blind. I thought it was a bit odd that the guitarist spoke over the singer multiple times, and one of my new friends I was chatting with also pointed that out, but otherwise I enjoyed their set.
MindMaze - True Reflection (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrXGEpA0NSY)
Hypocrisy... not for me. Hard to comment if they were good or not when the music is just not something I enjoy. They were definitely heavy. They fogged out the entire venue, like even the lobby was super foggy which made for a cool atmosphere but you also couldn't see anything. I left halfway through their set
Hypocrisy - Chemical Whore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N09DEMzKR5c)
oh and I met Adrienne Cowan of Seven Spires, I'll share that pic in the pics thread...
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So Klone's songs are all clones?
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Mindmaze were pretty good too. First time even listening to them, went in blind. I thought it was a bit odd that the guitarist spoke over the singer multiple times, and one of my new friends I was chatting with also pointed that out, but otherwise I enjoyed their set.
Jeff (guitarist) and Sarah (singer) are siblings and at this point I could write a book about their often awkward onstage commentary. But I'm glad you enjoyed their set. Very happy for them to finally get the nod to play the festival!
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Guitarist of MindMaze is the younger brother of the singer, I'd imagine he's been interrupting her since birth :p
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Oh wow, I was thinking they were married and the guy I mentioned thought they were siblings. It seemed odd without the context, but that makes sense. :lol
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Oh wow, I was thinking they were married and the guy I mentioned thought they were siblings. It seemed odd without the context, but that makes sense. :lol
Yup, Jeff is the guitarist, Sara the singer, and the bassist has been with them since HS as well. Actually, Nick was their original drummer when they were Necromancer (I think that's right).
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Day 1 was boring as all get out except for F&J for me. Day 2 I loved finally seeing Wilderun. They played The Unimaginable Zero Summer. Hell yeah.
Was up dead center for Stratovarius in front of the barricade for their whole set and met them after, got pictures and setlist signed, played my favorite ballad ever, new album announced and single released yesterday, I am beyond happy.
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That's sick you got to meet them and get things signed, I was hoping to get my Nemesis album signed but sadly they are the only band not doing a signing session.
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Day 1 was boring as all get out except for F&J for me. Day 2 I loved finally seeing Wilderun. They played The Unimaginable Zero Summer. Hell yeah.
Was up dead center for Stratovarius in front of the barricade for their whole set and met them after, got pictures and setlist signed, played my favorite ballad ever, new album announced and single released yesterday, I am beyond happy.
I was on the right side, behind the barrier, right by the guy that is obsessed with Stratovarious. It was a great show and I am glad they at least played Forever. Would have been neat to hear Seasons of Change, but I knew they weren't. I also knew we were likely going to get a usual set from them. Which we did get, but it's why I went and I had a damn blast.
I am also a bit sad we didn't get an encore for Pain of Salvation because their "Invisible Hologram" had tech trouble. But, him explaining why the tabs were wrong for King of Loss was hilarious. My highlight was Her Voices, I love that song.
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Yeah, that does suck POS didn't get an encore. I went into the festival not really a fan of them, but I thought their performance was really good. Like I kind of expected to dip out during their set, but I watched the entire thing and enjoyed it. I thought it was funny when Daniel said he was dreading this day for 3 years :lol
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Yeah, that does suck POS didn't get an encore. I went into the festival not really a fan of them, but I thought their performance was really good. Like I kind of expected to dip out during their set, but I watched the entire thing and enjoyed it. I thought it was funny when Daniel said he was dreading this day for 3 years :lol
Past Daniel making it Future Daniels problem. :biggrin:
That was funny too. I could tell they were tired, it was their last stop, and they were ready to go home.
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Flotsam and Jetsam - Brace for Impact (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgSWNWok2sY)
Easily the best set of the night IMO was Flotsam. They also sounded really good and tight. The bassist commented that he liked my Haken shirt.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUM-Cr9WUAAZ3tG?format=jpg&name=large)
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We proudly present our Days 3 & 4 Roster for 2023:
Friday, Day 3
Cryptex (Germany)
Wind Rose (Italy)
Ad Infinitum (Switzerland)
Green Carnation (Norway)
Caligula's Horse (Australia)
Kamelot (Multi-national)
Saturday, Day 4
Poverty's No Crime (Germany)
Shaman (Brazil)
Orbit Culture (Sweden)
Delain (Netherlands)
Unleash the Archers (Canada)
Myrath (Tunisia)
Dates: September 6-9, 2023
Tickets for Days 3 & 4 will go on sale Saturday, September 10, 2022
That lineup might finally get my ass to Atlanta, let's see what days 1&2 got...
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I thought Klone were great, and Seven Spires really surprised me, but PoS were the ones to beat, for me. Bassist or not, they were superb. Daniel is such a charismatic performer, and everyone else was on point.
About next year's line up, I don't know if I'll go or not, but Green Carnation and Caligulas Horse especially seem like they would be great
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I was eyeballing Caligula's and Myrath, they're supposed to be insane live.
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Im just gonna start saving now because both those lineups would all be amazing to see live.
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We proudly present our Days 3 & 4 Roster for 2023:
Friday, Day 3
Cryptex (Germany)
Wind Rose (Italy)
Ad Infinitum (Switzerland)
Green Carnation (Norway)
Caligula's Horse (Australia)
Kamelot (Multi-national)
Saturday, Day 4
Poverty's No Crime (Germany)
Shaman (Brazil)
Orbit Culture (Sweden)
Delain (Netherlands)
Unleash the Archers (Canada)
Myrath (Tunisia)
Those in bold have played the festival or tour the US regularly, so no worries in getting over. But with the rest of the lineup being so international, my only worry at this point is how close will this roster be to what actually plays in 2023.
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Next year's lineup is so weak it's impressive
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Edit: crap. On mobile at the fest trying to upload a couple photos. Have to figure it out later. Sorry!
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he finally gets Shaman, well over a decade after Andre Matos has left the band, and more importantly, is gone (RIP).
I'd love to see Green Carnation. Maybe like Pain of Salvation, they'll try and do some touring of the States to coincide and they'll find a way to my hometown.
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We proudly present our Days 3 & 4 Roster for 2023:
Friday, Day 3
Cryptex (Germany)
Wind Rose (Italy)
Ad Infinitum (Switzerland)
Green Carnation (Norway)
Caligula's Horse (Australia)
Kamelot (Multi-national)
Saturday, Day 4
Poverty's No Crime (Germany)
Shaman (Brazil)
Orbit Culture (Sweden)
Delain (Netherlands)
Unleash the Archers (Canada)
Myrath (Tunisia)
Dates: September 6-9, 2023
Tickets for Days 3 & 4 will go on sale Saturday, September 10, 2022
That lineup might finally get my ass to Atlanta, let's see what days 1&2 got...
Well, if you're there, I'm there. But Nick makes a good point. Who's fronting Delain nowadays?
PNC, Ad Infinitum, and Myrath have my interested piqued. Kamelot of course (though I've seen them twice).
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The only two bands in that list I've heard of are Caligula's Horse and Kamelot, but I'd be very interested in seeing both. I'll also be a lot closer to ATL by then.
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I the only band I wasn't really feeling during the video was Cryptex...
But damn, am I kicking myself for not listening to Ad Infinitum.
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We proudly present our Days 3 & 4 Roster for 2023:
Friday, Day 3
Cryptex (Germany)
Wind Rose (Italy)
Ad Infinitum (Switzerland)
Green Carnation (Norway)
Caligula's Horse (Australia)
Kamelot (Multi-national)
Saturday, Day 4
Poverty's No Crime (Germany)
Shaman (Brazil)
Orbit Culture (Sweden)
Delain (Netherlands)
Unleash the Archers (Canada)
Myrath (Tunisia)
Dates: September 6-9, 2023
Tickets for Days 3 & 4 will go on sale Saturday, September 10, 2022
That lineup might finally get my ass to Atlanta, let's see what days 1&2 got...
Well, if you're there, I'm there. But Nick makes a good point. Who's fronting Delain nowadays?
PNC, Ad Infinitum, and Myrath have my interested piqued. Kamelot of course (though I've seen them twice).
Yeah, seen Delain and Kamelot a few times already, and am curious who takes Charlotte's place for sure. Big draws would be Caligula's and Myrath, the latter having legendary status for their past PP sets. I have a feeling Caligula's will tack on a tour since they cancelled one because of Covid. I have made half assed promises to various regular attendees that I would hit one up before the last in a few years, if my recent promise of a promotion goes through, I may be able to pull this off.
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I think Mindmazeaw would be better off just not talking at all. :) I wasn't there but saw them once before and one of them said "nobody wants to hear me talk" but really nobody wanted to hear either of them talk - it was kind of painful.
Green Carnation and Caligula's Horse back to back next year is awesome. I hope neither have to cancel.
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I pointed out the question about Arion's pronunciation to multiple people yesterday :lol
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Dude Arion is blowing my mind. They're SO GOOD live.
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Dude Arion is blowing my mind. They're SO GOOD live.
They were amazing. Got here for the last half hour of their set.
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Their sound wasn't perfect but I really enjoyed the Arion performance. They were the band I wanted to see the most and they seemed to have fun with a responsive crowd for 2pm. I had to go back to my room to rest after them lol missed TYS and most of Riot.
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I found it hilarious Thank You Scientist was sandwiched between two Heavy sounding bands.
Had them sign my ticket since their table was open and they complimented me on my shirt being old and that I've been listening for a long time due to me wearing this shirt. It was great.
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Their sound wasn't perfect but I really enjoyed the Arion performance. They were the band I wanted to see the most and they seemed to have fun with a responsive crowd for 2pm.
I just watched your video on them (and :tup'd it) and I thought they were great. Looked like a really cool band to see live.
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On line to meet them now!
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I’ve never been to a prog power, so you get to meet all the bands?
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I’ve never been to a prog power, so you get to meet all the bands?
Yep, most of the bands do signing sessions, and from what I've seen, they basically hang around and party with everyone too.
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I’ve never been to a prog power, so you get to meet all the bands?
Yep, most of the bands do signing sessions, and from what I've seen, they basically hang around and party with everyone too.
Hmmm. I think thus far I’ve only heard of/like 1-3 bands per show. So it’s never enough to justify the effort but maybe I’ll consider it next time.
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And that is the end....
What a weekend and an amazing ProgPower given the circumstances. All the bands were great.
I enjoyed my 2nd ProgPower and hope to make it next year.
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I pointed out the question about Arion's pronunciation to multiple people yesterday :lol
And ... is it like Air-eon, or Orion-but with an "Ah"
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I pointed out the question about Arion's pronunciation to multiple people yesterday :lol
And ... is it like Air-eon, or Orion-but with an "Ah"
Amazing you'd have to do that because they have a song where the name of the band is sung out multiple times.
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Brief thoughts to be expanded upon later, but I just got home and am about to sleep for eternity, so:
Didn't watch many of the sets on day 3 and 4 this year for several reasons but mostly because I just wasn't as interested. That said, Ihsahn had an amazing show. I've only listened to some of his work outside of Emperor. That set - minus the brutal technical difficulties that eventually killed the show for several minutes right in the middle of it - was amazing. His drummer is a monster and a delight to watch. I preferred the super heavy black metal stuff to the rest. That shit was straight up demonic and exactly what I like to listen to so I'm going to explore his stuff and maybe I'll find some more dark slow stuff to enjoy too. Also the Wrathchild cover kicked so much ass.
Rhapsody was, tied with Stratovarius, the highlight of the fest for me. They only played classic songs from the early records and even through some deep cuts in there. I absolutely lost my shit during this set. Also got Alex's drumstick so now I have sticks from the three drummers of my three favorite power metal bands which I'm pretty chuffed about for selfish vain materialistic reasons :lol
Merch situation was dire this year though. So many bands had no merch, Stratovarius had 3 questionable selections for shirts that didn't last long and Rhapsody had only one shirt. I know the reasons why these things happen and why some bands have nothing at all but it's still disappointing when you want to throw money at the band right there. :lol
Another kickass progpower in the books!! :metal
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Any of you guys see Witherfall?
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I did not see Witherfall. That was my sacrifice band to go out and eat.
I know Cram did because he posted a video.
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Any of you guys see Witherfall?
yeah, they were good but kind of sounded off a bit. They were late to come out and it sounded like they had some sound issues just from hearing them before the curtain opened and then how the singer was reacting during the first song. I'm guessing they had to cut a song because of it. Overall, pretty good though, but Tempest was the only song from Curse of Autumn played and therefore, the only song I knew of their set. My only complaint, I wish they played more from that album.
Witherfall - Tempest (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyedV77TTkM)
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Still need to finish editing my day 1 and day 2 videos tonight, but I wanted to share what I think may be my favorite clip of the festival.
It was right before the end of the Rhapsody set and a bunch of people in the crowd right in front of me started grabbing each other and swaying left/right together. Just a very nice unity type moment in the crowd. (plus the couple dancing in front of me) Reminded me of the head banging wall at the end of Demons and Wizards from the last PP. Moments like this are why the festival is so great. Just a great community.
Turilli / Lione Rhapsody - Lamento Eroico LIVE @ ProgPower USA XXI (https://youtu.be/uLQ_ucp1Y48?t=187) (timestamped for when it starts to form)
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Marc, just bounced around your Day 2 video. Stratovarius looked fantastic. Who's in the band now?
Spektra looked surprisingly quite enjoyable.
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Stratovarius were very fun. I'm not a hardcore fan though so according to wiki pedia:
Current members
Timo Kotipelto – lead vocals (1994–present)
Jens Johansson – keyboards (1995–present)
Lauri Porra – bass, backing vocals (2005–present)
Matias Kupiainen – guitars, backing vocals (2008–present)
Rolf Pilve – drums (2012–present)
Spektra was pretty good. AOR type of music, reminded me a bit of Eclipse/W.E.T./JSS solo type of music which all makes sense. Spektra is also JSS's backing band so those same guys were the band that did the Queen tribute set. Also nice guys who I met who seemed very appreciative of the support and happy to have the opportunity.
Also Tim, I finished my Day 1 video very late last night but forgot to upload it this morning, I'll have it up tonight but it's got a significant amount of Flotsam and Jetsam. I didn't even realize how much of them I recorded and how little of everyone else :lol but you may enjoy that. I even recorded an entire song (new song, The Walls) I never uploaded for some reason (I'll blame the alcohol) but I'm holding off uploading that full song until after my Day 1 video is up for some consistency in my channel.
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I've given Spektra a listen. They had a release last year that had a couple of gems.
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Stratovarius were very fun. I'm not a hardcore fan though so according to wiki pedia:
Current members
Timo Kotipelto – lead vocals (1994–present)
Jens Johansson – keyboards (1995–present)
Lauri Porra – bass, backing vocals (2005–present)
Matias Kupiainen – guitars, backing vocals (2008–present)
Rolf Pilve – drums (2012–present)
Spektra was pretty good. AOR type of music, reminded me a bit of Eclipse/W.E.T./JSS solo type of music which all makes sense. Spektra is also JSS's backing band so those same guys were the band that did the Queen tribute set. Also nice guys who I met who seemed very appreciative of the support and happy to have the opportunity.
Also Tim, I finished my Day 1 video very late last night but forgot to upload it this morning, I'll have it up tonight but it's got a significant amount of Flotsam and Jetsam. I didn't even realize how much of them I recorded and how little of everyone else :lol but you may enjoy that. I even recorded an entire song (new song, The Walls) I never uploaded for some reason (I'll blame the alcohol) but I'm holding off uploading that full song until after my Day 1 video is up for some consistency in my channel.
Cool. I thought that was Jens Johanssen.
Yeah The Walls is awesome. It's off their latest (last year's) album.
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Yeah, their newer stuff is really good so I'm glad I captured that song (and Brace for Impact). Just wish I had remembered I had it on my camera last week :lol
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The Spectra guys are all really really good singers.
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The Spectra guys are all really really good singers.
I heard they were spektracular.
..sorry..
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The Spectra guys are all really really good singers.
This became obvious during the Queen set doing the harmonies.
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The Spectra guys are all really really good singers.
I heard they were spektracular.
..sorry..
No you're not.
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No, I'm really not. :lol
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I was very impressed by Spektra. I also thought of Eclipse, but to me, Spektra is more my style. The vocals were great and they were energetic.
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The video is up!!! :metal
Gave it its first :tup
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For those who attended this year, how was the Ray Alder performance?
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Amazing....
He played my two favorites from What The Water Wants, Wait and The Road. His vocals were really good as well too.
He got Nick Van Dyke to fill in for their other guitarist who had other obligations with his other band.
It was funny too when Ray joked about his show being "World Exclusive" saying he wouldn't go that far. :lol
Ending with Walls by Redemption was awesome as well, I was sad when he left Redemption because I wanted to hear him sing this song. After reading his interview in the ProgPower program, I figured when he mentioned Nick Van Dyke was joining him, he would do a Redemption song. I appreciate his reasons for not doing any Fates Warning songs as a sign of respect to the other guys. He thanked Nick for letting them play Walls as well.
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I agree with Ben. I'd say that Ray didn't need to apologize for playing the new stuff as much as he did - maybe just mention it one time and get on with it. But I think he was probably a little concerned that people would be wanting Fates songs.
I think his solo album is great, and I'm looking forward to the next one.
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Don't mind me, carry on, but I just wanted to share a few select pics of Stratovarius that I took :biggrin:
(https://i.imgur.com/68lJMHI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kOteW5n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/keGZ0Hb.jpg)
I love how both times I've seen them I've gotten to meet them. I took photos with them all of course, but meeting the (imo) greatest metal keyboardist of all time after two hours of sweaty headbanging to my favorite power metal still has me on cloud nine.
(https://i.imgur.com/X9X8FK0.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/o6hBpst.jpg)
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The video is up!!! :metal
Gave it its first :tup
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For those who attended this year, how was the Ray Alder performance?
I thought he was really good. I've never been a huge Ray fan. Like I'm not into Fates Warning and I enjoy Redemption but not really for his vocals. But his solo stuff is really good. I never bought the album, but I listened to it a bunch leading up to the festival and I was really digging it. The bass playing on the album stands out just as much as his vocals. But live, something about his vocals finally clicked for me. Maybe it's his uniqueness but there's something there for sure that I never got until now. His backing band was pretty solid. The female bass player was fantastic. If you are interested, here's my videos from his set (timestamped for his part): https://youtu.be/lo_c2RnpEqo?t=1969 (https://youtu.be/lo_c2RnpEqo?t=1969)
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I was very impressed by Spektra. I also thought of Eclipse, but to me, Spektra is more my style. The vocals were great and they were energetic.
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Did they have a lot of harmony vocals during their own set? I was only there for days 3 and 4 so I only saw the JSS set. Some of them were with JSS the first time he played ProgPower and they were great then.
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I was very impressed by Spektra. I also thought of Eclipse, but to me, Spektra is more my style. The vocals were great and they were energetic.
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Did they have a lot of harmony vocals during their own set? I was only there for days 3 and 4 so I only saw the JSS set. Some of them were with JSS the first time he played ProgPower and they were great then.
They had them, I'm not sure if it would be considered "a lot" though. JSS was playing keyboards and singing the background vocals too so you could hear him in the mix. Here's the full song Lonely Road https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxbDG_6Hio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxbDG_6Hio) with some harmonized backing vocals during the chorus.
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For those who attended this year, how was the Ray Alder performance?
I thought he was really good. I've never been a huge Ray fan. Like I'm not into Fates Warning and I enjoy Redemption but not really for his vocals. But his solo stuff is really good. I never bought the album, but I listened to it a bunch leading up to the festival and I was really digging it. The bass playing on the album stands out just as much as his vocals. But live, something about his vocals finally clicked for me. Maybe it's his uniqueness but there's something there for sure that I never got until now. His backing band was pretty solid. The female bass player was fantastic. If you are interested, here's my videos from his set (timestamped for his part): https://youtu.be/lo_c2RnpEqo?t=1969 (https://youtu.be/lo_c2RnpEqo?t=1969)
Glad you enjoyed his set. :) I love Fates and Redemption and Ray's been one of my favorite singers for a while now.
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Any of you guys see Witherfall?
The band before them went over. So they didn't have time to set up and had to cut a song.
yeah, they were good but kind of sounded off a bit. They were late to come out and it sounded like they had some sound issues just from hearing them before the curtain opened and then how the singer was reacting during the first song. I'm guessing they had to cut a song because of it. Overall, pretty good though, but Tempest was the only song from Curse of Autumn played and therefore, the only song I knew of their set. My only complaint, I wish they played more from that album.
Witherfall - Tempest (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyedV77TTkM)
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BUMP!
Progpower is back in less than 2 weeks!
This year's line up:
Day 1:
The Reticent
Elvenking
Cynic
Swallow The Sun
Doro
Day 2:
Seven Kingdoms
Zero Hour
The Halo Effect
VOLA
Beast in Black
Day 3:
The Cryptex
Battle Beast
Ad Infinitum
Green Carnation
Caligula's Horse
Kamelot
Day 4:
Poverty's No Crime
Evil Invaders
Visions of Atlantis
Delain
Unleash The Archers
Myrath
So for the first time for me, I'm not attending Day 1. A few reasons, the line up is OK, but I saw Doro last time at Progpower and the last two Day 1s have been kind of dead in terms of the crowd environment. I just can't justify the cost of the ticket and an extra hotel room this year. Also doesn't help that my gf's birthday is the 7th and she's PISSED that I'm going to Atlanta that day. So we are going to do something for her birthday before I leave. Sucks, but what can I do? I'd like to be there generally and I've always stated that if you are going to go, might as well go to all days. It's just not working out for me this year.
However, Day 2, 3 and 4 are INCREDIBLE line ups for my tastes. They actually may be the best line ups I've seen since Progpower came on my radar. I'm really looking forward to a lot of the meet and greets. I'm about to place an order on amazon for a bunch of CDs to be signed (I already own the digital music, but need to get that physical to have it signed).
And of course I'm excited for the line up reveal for next year.
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Day 1 has the best lineup.
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I'd go to Day 1 just for The Reticent and Swallow the Sun :metal Day 3 is just incredibly stacked, the only band I don't know is The Cryptex, the rest of the day should be amazing.
Day 2 and Day 4 are weird, I've seen VOLA and Delain (with Charlotte though) already and the only band I'm really interested in is Myrath.
Obviously I'm not in a position to see any of them but thought I'd post. :lol
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Obviously I'm not in a position to see any of them but thought I'd post. :lol
Same here. :lol
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Day 1 has the best lineup.
To each their own, I'd go if the costs of hotels wasn't so damn expensive these days and my gf wasn't so mad at me even if the line up isn't my favorite. Who do you like on day 1?
I'd go to Day 1 just for The Reticent and Swallow the Sun :metal Day 3 is just incredibly stacked, the only band I don't know is The Cryptex, the rest of the day should be amazing.
Day 2 and Day 4 are weird, I've seen VOLA and Delain (with Charlotte though) already and the only band I'm really interested in is Myrath.
Obviously I'm not in a position to see any of them but thought I'd post. :lol
Day 3 is definitely stacked for my tastes as well. I like the new Delain album so I'm very excited to see them live with the "new" band.
It was also announced today that the singer of Xandria will perform with The Cryptex.
I also saw Kamelot/Battle Beast just last week and it was such a good show (specifically Battle Beast who were way better than the previous times I saw them).
After Progpower Ill see Beast in Black and Delain/Visions of Atlantic again in NYC.
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Definitely a good year, I'm seeing Kamelot et Al next Friday, and seeing Swallow the Sun open for Batushka Monday, but am bummed Caligula's and Myrath didn't add tours to the festival this year, especially Caligula's since they canceled a tour because of the Rona.
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Day 1 has the best lineup.
To each their own, I'd go if the costs of hotels wasn't so damn expensive these days and my gf wasn't so mad at me even if the line up isn't my favorite. Who do you like on day 1?
All of them. I'd love to see how the guy behind The Reticent translates it to a band format.
I like Swallow The Sun, and while I'm not really into Cynic, they'd have my undivided attention live.
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I've always wanted to go to ProgPower, but it is at a bad time of year for us, always sells out, and usually the lineup has too many bands we're not interested in.
For me, this year, the bands I care to see:
Caligula's Horse
Kamelot
Unleash the Archers
I'm sure all the bands are great, and I'd enjoy if I was there, but this is one of the weaker PPs that I've seen (for my personal tastes).
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Hey, you all know what I like (and don't like). I love Blackmore, I love melody in my singing, I love James LaBrie, I love Mike Portnoy and Phil Collins as drummers (over pure technical bazillion note a minute guys like Mangini and say, Scott Travis or Mickey Dee). No growls.
It's embarrassing that for a FOUR DAY FESTIVAL, I've heard of a couple of those bands, but can't name one song from ANY of them. Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
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Hey, you all know what I like (and don't like). I love Blackmore, I love melody in my singing, I love James LaBrie, I love Mike Portnoy and Phil Collins as drummers (over pure technical bazillion note a minute guys like Mangini and say, Scott Travis or Mickey Dee). No growls.
It's embarrassing that for a FOUR DAY FESTIVAL, I've heard of a couple of those bands, but can't name one song from ANY of them. Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
I'll start with Caligula's Horse on Day 3 and Myrath on Day 4...
Caligula's Horse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8)
Myrath...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs)
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Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
UNLEASH THE ARCHERS - "Apex" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTWbVUUkWm4
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Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
UNLEASH THE ARCHERS - "Apex" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTWbVUUkWm4
Yeah, this might be up your alley. Always thought this song is very Iron Maiden like. Really love the last two Unleash the Archers albums. From my understanding of your tastes, I'm not really sure what I can suggest besides this song that I think you'll really like.
And Bill, the festival is pretty niche so it's not really soemthing to be ashamed of if you aren't familiar. I can't recall you ever really mentioning power metal as something you dig. Maybe RJ's choices will be up your alley though being prog.
Regardless, I'll share my own video of Battle Beast from last week, I really thought this performance was incredible (their set, not just specifically this song) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTBdM4ZrAZk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTBdM4ZrAZk)
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Hey, you all know what I like (and don't like). I love Blackmore, I love melody in my singing, I love James LaBrie, I love Mike Portnoy and Phil Collins as drummers (over pure technical bazillion note a minute guys like Mangini and say, Scott Travis or Mickey Dee). No growls.
It's embarrassing that for a FOUR DAY FESTIVAL, I've heard of a couple of those bands, but can't name one song from ANY of them. Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
If you're alright with acoustic stuff, I recommend this live acoustic gig from Green Carnation. The video quality isn't great but I've returned to this one quite a few times.
A Night Under the Dam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J88t688ESWU)
If you don't want live stuff, here are some studio (also acoustic) versions:
The Burden is Mine... Alone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbkR5YrR0k0)
Sweet Leaf (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC3Vj76zBEY)
Alone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzKBjRPNCUM)
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Green Carnation are also doing an acoustic set on Day 4 before the festival starts. It was a seperate ticket which I didn't get. I found by day 4 I really struggle to get out of bed for that first band so seeing that set would be very unlikely.
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Green Carnation are also doing an acoustic set on Day 4 before the festival starts. It was a seperate ticket which I didn't get. I found by day 4 I really struggle to get out of bed for that first band so seeing that set would be very unlikely.
There would've been no way I'd skip that. I'd rather skip Kamelot on Day 3. :lol
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Green Carnation are also doing an acoustic set on Day 4 before the festival starts. It was a seperate ticket which I didn't get. I found by day 4 I really struggle to get out of bed for that first band so seeing that set would be very unlikely.
There would've been no way I'd skip that. I'd rather skip Kamelot on Day 3. :lol
That says a lot, damn. It did eventually sell out, they actually don't usually sell the early set to the public.
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I haven't listened to the Green Carnation stuff yet, but I REALLY liked Unleash the Archers. I liked the Myrath better than the Caligula's Horse, but they're both good, and I heard a snippet of a second Caligula's Horse song that sounded really cool.
Thanks so much!
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I'd be super pumped to see Kamelot (again), Ad Infinitum, and Myrath. I'd stay for Unleash the Archers too.
But that's it.
Give me a tour of Kamelot, Ad Ininitum, and Myrath and you got my money.
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I'd be super pumped to see Kamelot (again), Ad Infinitum, and Myrath. I'd stay for Unleash the Archers too.
But that's it.
Give me a tour of Kamelot, Ad Ininitum, and Myrath and you got my money.
I was hoping Kamelot would've dragged Myrath or Caligula's Horse with them, instead of Battle Beast and Xandria
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Yeah, I was super bummed that there was no US tour for Caligula's Horse built around ProgPower. I'd have considered going to just day 4 if it had the Caligula's + Kamelot combo instead of Friday.
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Hey, you all know what I like (and don't like). I love Blackmore, I love melody in my singing, I love James LaBrie, I love Mike Portnoy and Phil Collins as drummers (over pure technical bazillion note a minute guys like Mangini and say, Scott Travis or Mickey Dee). No growls.
It's embarrassing that for a FOUR DAY FESTIVAL, I've heard of a couple of those bands, but can't name one song from ANY of them. Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
I'll start with Caligula's Horse on Day 3 and Myrath on Day 4...
Caligula's Horse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8)
Myrath...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs)
Yeah Caligula’s and melody go hand in hand, don’t miss out on them.
Otherwise agreed, as a festival it could be compressed a couple of days.
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Otherwise agreed, as a festival it could be compressed a couple of days.
If it were compressed, then every band wouldn't get at least an hour to play and they'd probably have to cut meet and greets. The way it is now is good because it allows all the bands to get an opportunity.
For example, Battle Beast has toured as an opener mostly in the US (I think they did some headline dates, but not a full tour before). So I got to see them a week ago but only a 45 minute set. At ProgPower they'll get a few more songs and I like it that way and am really excited to see a longer set.
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Green Carnation are also doing an acoustic set on Day 4 before the festival starts. It was a seperate ticket which I didn't get. I found by day 4 I really struggle to get out of bed for that first band so seeing that set would be very unlikely.
There would've been no way I'd skip that. I'd rather skip Kamelot on Day 3. :lol
That says a lot, damn. It did eventually sell out, they actually don't usually sell the early set to the public.
I'll probably have a ticket if you want to go.
And you should definitely want to go.
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Green Carnation are also doing an acoustic set on Day 4 before the festival starts. It was a seperate ticket which I didn't get. I found by day 4 I really struggle to get out of bed for that first band so seeing that set would be very unlikely.
There would've been no way I'd skip that. I'd rather skip Kamelot on Day 3. :lol
That says a lot, damn. It did eventually sell out, they actually don't usually sell the early set to the public.
I'll probably have a ticket if you want to go.
And you should definitely want to go.
It's not so much about want, but the ability to get out of bed. Day 4 mornings/afternoons have been rough for me historically and I'm not sure this year will be any better. :lol if you still have it available come Friday night, maybe I'll join if I think I'll be up to it but certainly don't hold that ticket for me.
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Day 2 was incredible!
My videos:
Seven Kingdoms - Valonqar LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/7/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGbJ1kuMy6c)
The Halo Effect - Last of Our Kind LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/7/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbbmAJmaraA)
The Halo Effect - Conditional LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/7/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lnPQacktok)
VOLA - Ghosts LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/7/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KI4D28GU4)
VOLA - Paper Wolf LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/7/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWBmWAQp0sM)
Beast in Black - Revengeance Machine LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/7/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TOzv5F5-r0)
Beast in Black - True Believer LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/7/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOnbZI0uDsc)
Some pictures:
Beast in Black:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5eadRyXcAAF9X8?format=jpg&name=large)
VOLA:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5d4Dn0WEAAtNoP?format=jpg&name=large)
The Halo Effect:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5dlDEeWwAA6xKm?format=jpg&name=large)
With Seven Kingdoms:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5diV5OWIAAkmMo?format=jpg&name=large)
With Beast in Black:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5dd7XNXYAANtYD?format=jpg&name=large)
Beast in Black signed promo photo they were giving out:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5dMvDwXAAAkwQt?format=jpg&name=large)
Some comments....
Such a fun day. Seven Kingdoms were awesome to start, Sabrina's vocals are really strong live. Crowd was solid for them as the first band. Got to see an hour long set so more music than I've seen from them the previous 3 times. They were so nice at the meet and greet.
Zero Hour were solid. I didn't record any full songs, but I have clips that I'll put up when I'm back home. I wasn't familair with them, but enjoyed the half set I saw. I wanted to get on the Beast in Black meet and greet line. It was also nice to run into Lethean during their set :yarr
The Halo Effect were probably the band i wanted to see the most. Thought they delivered playing maybe the entire debut album, which I love. Great energy and performance.
VOLA were the surprise for me. I didn't love the songs I sampled, thought they were good and interesting, but didn't grasp me while checking them out a bit over the last few months here and there. THe live show was really good though. The songs may be hit or miss for me, but the performance was top notch. They did the full 90 minute headline show with their lights and all. I think a lot of people were impressed by this set.
Beast in Black, while my favorite of the bands this day, were a ton of fun, but their live performance is too reliant on backing tracks for me to truly love. Fun, hell yeah, impressive live.. maybe. The guitar solos are so fun and they have a lot of choreography with the guitarists that's highly entertaining. Sadly their sound kept coming in and out throughout the entire set. It was quite odd. Crowd was wild for them though. I also got Yannis to sign their From Hell With Love album insert saying "Happy Birthday Jamie :heart" becuase it was my girlfriend's birthday yesterday and she said I could make it up for her by having him signed something for her. I haven't told her I completed this task :metal
Sadly, since I woke up at 4:30am to get a 7am flight for yesterday, by the time VOLA was one, my head started pounding. Kind of ruined some of the enjoyment. I muscled it out to see the end of the show, but bolted afterwards to get to bed. I only just now feel better so hoping today is a bit better come late night. Either way, I'm super excited. Heading out now!
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Curious to see who they announce for next year's show....wondering if my random Lovebites prediction will happen. (Glenn posted Judgement Day as one of his albums of the month so he's totally familiar with them, they've never played the US and Glen said there are a ton of debut bands this year, and they would fit perfectly with PPUSA's crowd, they'd fucking slay there)
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I love the pics, Marc. Very cool that the bands themselves seem into it, like they are having fun too.
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So glad you got a picture of the Seven Kingdoms singers Cheeseburger slippers. :lol
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Hey, you all know what I like (and don't like). I love Blackmore, I love melody in my singing, I love James LaBrie, I love Mike Portnoy and Phil Collins as drummers (over pure technical bazillion note a minute guys like Mangini and say, Scott Travis or Mickey Dee). No growls.
It's embarrassing that for a FOUR DAY FESTIVAL, I've heard of a couple of those bands, but can't name one song from ANY of them. Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
I'll start with Caligula's Horse on Day 3 and Myrath on Day 4...
Caligula's Horse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8)
Myrath...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs)
RJ, is Myrath selling the new CD there?
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I'm not in attendance, I think Marc is the only DTFer I know there.
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Hey, you all know what I like (and don't like). I love Blackmore, I love melody in my singing, I love James LaBrie, I love Mike Portnoy and Phil Collins as drummers (over pure technical bazillion note a minute guys like Mangini and say, Scott Travis or Mickey Dee). No growls.
It's embarrassing that for a FOUR DAY FESTIVAL, I've heard of a couple of those bands, but can't name one song from ANY of them. Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
I'll start with Caligula's Horse on Day 3 and Myrath on Day 4...
Caligula's Horse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8)
Myrath...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs)
RJ, is Myrath selling the new CD there?
Their merch isn't out yet until tomorrow
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Curious to see who they announce for next year's show....wondering if my random Lovebites prediction will happen. (Glenn posted Judgement Day as one of his albums of the month so he's totally familiar with them, they've never played the US and Glen said there are a ton of debut bands this year, and they would fit perfectly with PPUSA's crowd, they'd fucking slay there)
Will find out in a bit, but I heard a rumor that Dark Tranquility is playing (The Halo Effect has a couple of their members so it's plausible)
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Curious to see who they announce for next year's show....wondering if my random Lovebites prediction will happen. (Glenn posted Judgement Day as one of his albums of the month so he's totally familiar with them, they've never played the US and Glen said there are a ton of debut bands this year, and they would fit perfectly with PPUSA's crowd, they'd fucking slay there)
Not that I'd go to Atlanta but it'd be cool if they did a tour as well.
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Curious to see who they announce for next year's show....wondering if my random Lovebites prediction will happen. (Glenn posted Judgement Day as one of his albums of the month so he's totally familiar with them, they've never played the US and Glen said there are a ton of debut bands this year, and they would fit perfectly with PPUSA's crowd, they'd fucking slay there)
Not that I'd go to Atlanta but it'd be cool if they did a tour as well.
That's be my hope as well, Lovebites alone wouldn't be enough to get me to make the trek. Though they'd sure fuck with ticket sales.
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Hey, you all know what I like (and don't like). I love Blackmore, I love melody in my singing, I love James LaBrie, I love Mike Portnoy and Phil Collins as drummers (over pure technical bazillion note a minute guys like Mangini and say, Scott Travis or Mickey Dee). No growls.
It's embarrassing that for a FOUR DAY FESTIVAL, I've heard of a couple of those bands, but can't name one song from ANY of them. Give me one band per day that I should listen to, please.
I'll start with Caligula's Horse on Day 3 and Myrath on Day 4...
Caligula's Horse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWD1abgKI8)
Myrath...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDXB000XIs)
RJ, is Myrath selling the new CD there?
Their merch isn't out yet until tomorrow
Oh you're there, duh, my bad. There's nowhere to buy a physical cd. I wish I was there for that alone. You live in NY right?
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Aaaaand Lovebites is in for 2024!!
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You got what you wanted, now get out here lol
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Aaaaand Lovebites is in for 2024!!
Where are you seeing that?
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Aaaaand Lovebites is in for 2024!!
Where are you seeing that?
One of my Jmetal buds is in attendance, he just messaged me. Also Soen and Amorphis for day 3.
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PPUSA 2024 ROSTER:
FRIDAY:
STRIKER
FIFTH ANGEL
ELEGY
SOEN
LOVEBITES
AMORPHIS
SATURDAY:
FROZEN CROWN
DISILLUSION
ELEINE
DAMIAN WILSON
PAGAN'S MIND
WINGER
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Well fuck Saturday! :lol
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I definitely thought winger was a joke :biggrin:
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I'm so fucking in for that lineup.. Just sick. :metal
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I like Damien Wilson even though I don’t know his solo stuff
And I’d love to see Pagans Mind. Didn’t know they were still together. Has it been like a decade since their last album?
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I like Damien Wilson even though I don’t know his solo stuff
And I’d love to see Pagans Mind. Didn’t know they were still together. Has it been like a decade since their last album?
Almost 13 years ago. Heavenly Ecstasy was released in 2011 and it is my favorite of theirs.
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I like Damien Wilson even though I don’t know his solo stuff
They just confirmed his set will be career spanning, Threshold, Headspace, Star One, etc..
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Eh, that lineup feels so underwhelming for me.
Now tomorrow's lineup is why I am upset I won't be attending this year's fest.
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ProgPower has been awesome so far. Today isn't as exciting for me but I'll still be checking most of the bands out.
Green Carnation acoustic (and electric) was phenomenal.
Zero Hour were solid. I didn't record any full songs, but I have clips that I'll put up when I'm back home. I wasn't familair with them, but enjoyed the half set I saw. I wanted to get on the Beast in Black meet and greet line. It was also nice to run into Lethean during their set :yarr
Hopefully I'll run into you between sets or maybe at the after party tonight?
I directed someone who wanted me to record stuff to your channel instead. :)
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:tup nice, I'll be around, not sure how late though tonight, my body is definitely feeling it today (as usual come the final day of ProgPower).
I'm going to miss the first band today, Poverty's No Crime. (clearly as I'm writing this and not at the venue yet)
Some videos:
Battle Beast - No More Hollywood Endings LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/8/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy5MTRJPufw)
Battle Beast - Bastard Son of Odin LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/8/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrSjT-smZKY)
Ad Infinitum - Upside Down LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/8/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpcfzN9TlkY)
Ad Infinitum - Architect of Paradise LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/8/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzAVJAU6IUI)
Caligula's Horse - Firelight LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/8/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwvOQJhb9pM)
Kamelot - One More Flag In The Ground LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/8/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5yY8_jigKc)
Some pictures:
With Ad Infinitum:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5h9dJ8XcAA9k1_?format=jpg&name=large)
Battle Beast:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5h-TRkXAAAndxP?format=jpg&name=large)
Melissa Bonny during Ad Infinium
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5iSh9uWUAATTMD?format=jpg&name=large)
Kamelot (also with Melissa Bonny)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5jq591XcAAsl86?format=jpg&name=large)
With Jim Grey (singer of Caligula's Horse)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5jvPxLWIAASh3n?format=jpg&name=large)
With Tommy Karevik (singer of Kamelot)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5kKcc_X0AADTjK?format=jpg&name=large)
Some comments...
Can't believe how much fun yesterday was, it topped Thursday which almost seemed impossible. (it did help that I had a lot more energy and no headache yesterday). e
Ad Infinium band didn't seem to know Melissa was Swiss :lol I made a comment if they were Swiss and they said no and she was like WTF?! :lol They were real nice at their meet and greet. Also, it was cool to see them in the crowd during Kamelot to watch their singer.
Kamelot had the sound go out a couple times during their set. Similar to Beast in Black the night before, but much worse. Thomas Youngblood was like "ARE WE GOOD???" to the sound board afterwards, so fucking funny and honestly, yeah, it needs to be called out how bad this was and how it's been happening to the headliners. Otherwise, their set was good, but the same thing they've done all tour. It was just a bit more loud than NYC (although NYC had a massive mosh pit for them).
Caligula's Horse were incredible (again). I love the Australian jokes between songs, very engaging with the crowd. He was super nice at the after party where I met him. I didn't do their meet and greet since I did it last time. The crowd was really into them again. Graves which I recorded last time, I just took in so no video besides a clip. Really enjoyed that one.
I missed most of Green Carnation. I had a bunch of stuff signed during Kamelot's meet and greet that I wanted to get back to my hotel to not ruin any of it. I understand the festival loves them, but I just had to prioritize my goods. What I saw was pretty good though.
Ad Infinitum were SO GOOD. So much energy on stage. Melissa is good on the eyes, but she's got a great voice and does these incredible screams that you raelly just don't expect out of her, but she does it so well. Probably my favorite set of the day. Also, Melissa came out of the van at like 2am to talk to a bunch of her fan club members (and me). It was basically like an interview, she was so nice and friendly. I asked if they are coming back to the US and she said no plans yet but they did hire a US booking agent :metal
Battle Beast also kind of stole the show as the early band. I totally expected them to be incredible, but the crowd was eating it up. Venue was already packed when they came on. They ddi 3 more songs than their set opening for Kamelot which was awesome. (two of those 3 are the songs I recorded). Their meet and greet line went outside the building :lol but they were super nice and funny to talk to. Gave Noora a fist bump.
The line up for next year is a bit surprising. I need to do some homework before I say it is or isn't for me, but Pagans Mind is immediately the big draw for me.
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Me being there should be enough to get you there dude.
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Me being there should be enough to get you there dude.
I mean, I'm like 95% going regardless :lol My only 5% is because this falls on my gfs birthday every year now and she gives me some push back (hopefully the signed Yannis note changes that)
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The Ad Infintum dudes look so nerdy without their silly masks haha.
I’d love to see them though.
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Me being there should be enough to get you there dude.
I mean, I'm like 95% going regardless :lol My only 5% is because this falls on my gfs birthday every year now and she gives me some push back (hopefully the signed Yannis note changes that)
Unless someone mindblowing is announced for Day 2 tonight, I'll probably just make it a Fri-Sat thing. If anything I can change my mind since Day 1&2 usually don't sell out. I do worry about the 3&4 tickets though, the Lovebites fan pages are exploding with people commiting to the trip just for them. I'd hate to see a PPUSA regular get blocked out by some J-metal rando.
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Just got to get tickets the day of sale, always sells out fairly quickly. I'm not worried, plus the flood of resales the weeks leafing up to the festival.
Delain meet and greet soon!
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I missed most of Green Carnation.
Oof :)
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I missed most of Green Carnation.
Oof :)
It's a real shame.
I talked to them a little today and they were extremely nice.
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I've got nothing against Marc, he's free to choose whatever band he wants to see obviously. I would travel to another country just so I would have a chance to see Green Carnation perform. I mean I just travelled to Istanbul to see Soen.
I hope it was amazing at least.
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Maybe you'll catch them the next time they tour Europe?
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WTF...
Next's year's lineup makes no sense to me. They announced Day 2's lineup and this makes complete more sense for a Day 3-4 lineup....
We proudly present the Day 2 Roster for 2024:
Dark Tranquility (Sweden)
Leprous (Norway)
Twilight Force (Sweden/Italy)
Scar Symmetry (Sweden)
Northtale (Brazil/USA)
Nospūn (USA)
Date: Thursday, September 5, 2024
Tickets on sale: TBA
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If they were to mix some of the Day 3 and 4 bands around, that'd be a fantastic line-up.
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Are we gonna get Angus McSix since Thalia used to be in Power Wind? That'd be a neat guest appearance....
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Aside from Scar Symmetry, day 2 holds zero appeal. Fairly meh on Dark Tranquility, Leprous I actively avoid, and unfamiliar with the rest. I'd go onky to see Per in action to be honest
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Winger is gonna feel like how when Tarja headlined.
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Winger is gonna feel like how when Tarja headlined.
It'll give me a chance to get to sleep early though.
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Leprous :metal
I don't care if I watch any of the other bands on Thursday or not.
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They bore the fuck out of me, and Einar's vocals are annoying.
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Einar is one of my favorite singers, which is probably why Leprous is one of my favorite bands.
Saturday of this year's show was weak for me in comparison to Friday, but still a lot of fun. Myrath put on a great set.
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Flying home, I'll write and share more when I can. Another incredible day. It's always so sad to leave when it's over.
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Aside from Scar Symmetry, day 2 holds zero appeal. Fairly meh on Dark Tranquility, Leprous I actively avoid, and unfamiliar with the rest. I'd go onky to see Per in action to be honest
Nospūn dude! I'll be shocked if you don't dig them.
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Made it home pretty quickly...
Some videos:
Evil Invaders - Violence and Force LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/9/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8uRuA6Rp3M)
Visions of Atlantis - Heroes Of The Dawn LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/9/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFHRkKIKK2g)
Delain - Queen of Shadows LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/9/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lj9ttsY6Tw)
Unleash The Archers - Soulbound LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/9/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd6oKeRpxxI)
Unleash The Archers - Apex LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/9/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFovojEhAXI)
Myrath - Into The Night LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/9/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW0RbLINCco)
Myrath - Candles Cry LIVE @ ProgPower USA Center Stage Atlanta GA 9/9/2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ajfapBfSs)
Some pictures:
With Diana from Delain:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5m7t1vWcAA0YBL?format=jpg&name=large)
Unleash the Archers:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5oSpLhXEAAJ5M5?format=jpg&name=large)
Myrath:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5osqo0WwAAGqjP?format=jpg&name=large)
My goodies I brought back (Glasser, never ended up getting that Myrath album signed, I just missed the cut off sadly)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5r7wBHWUAAVBFm?format=jpg&name=large)
Some comments:
I missed Povertys No Crime, just so hard to get going for the last day. I got there just in time for the Delain meet and greet. Thought the band was super nice. Even after their set, I ended up chatting with the guitarist and drummer for like 20 minutes just about music and travels and life. Really nice guy I thought and friendly.
Evil Invaders were wild. I thought their energy was incredible and I didn't expect such a heavy thrash start at 3:30. I thought they were pretty solid, I had to give my head a break after a bit, but came back for the rest of their set.
Visions of Atlantis were my surprise band of the day. I didn't really care much for what I sampled, but I ended up really enjoying their set. I'm pretty excited to see them again now on Wednesday. I told the band the same thing at their meet and greet. Also ended up briefly chatting with their two singers before they left the veneu later at night. Somehow I ended up being the one taking pictures for everyone, I didn't get one myself :lol it's OK, I had enough for myself, got to give back too.
Delain were awesome. I love this new version of the band mostly because the new album is really good, but then their live show was solid too. New singer did the old songs well. I've seen them so many times, but this felt completely different and fresh. They did a song with the male singer of Visions of Atlantis which was cool since I guess they didn't bring their male vocalist over seas (this is a relatively new thing, their euro shows had an extra singer for half the set). Sadly, I felt like this was a pretty dead prog power crowd, relatively. COmpared to Visions of Atlantis before and Unleash the Archers after, the floor felt kind of empty for them. I do wonder if it's the new version of the band, the music in general, or just dinner time before the headliners. Oh well, I was able to get up close and reap the benefits. Curious how Wednesday's NYC show turns out.
Unleash the Archers were the band of the festival for me. Britney sounded incredible. They were also very nice at the meet and greet. Britney is VERY easy on the eyes and those pants she was weaing made it really difficult for me to focus on the rest of the band :lol I was legit mesmerized by her. The jump kicks throughout the set were awesome. I bought their festival shirt :metal
Myrath sounded incredible. Crowd loved it. I thought they were really good. The dancer on stage added a new twist to a metal show. I was just a bit tired for this set. I spent most of it in the back. I knew about half the songs they played (from watching their Hellfest set on youtube, which is incredible btw if you are a fan).
As for next year, I actually think Day 2 is the strongest line up, but that can change. I have to check out a lot of these bands. But I couldn't recommend this festival any harder for the folks here who enjoy this kind of music.
Oh, and the asian fried chicken vendor they had this year was so fucking good :metal
Now I have a billion videos to edit :lol
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Well I'm definitely buying a ticket for next year, if only for Damian and Lovebites, especially upon hearing that Viv Lalu will be part of Damian's backing band. If they bring the rest of Viv's band, we're all in for a treat. I know Damian is doing a series of shows in Nov under this same theme, and Viv's band is his band. Amorphis, Soen, and Pagan's Mind are just icing on the cake.
Still unsure on Day 2, but that can wait since it doesn't sell out like the main events do.
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Marc, do you know what the setlist was for Unleashed The Archers?
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Marc, do you know what the setlist was for Unleashed The Archers?
Same as this minus Dreamcrusher and Northwest Passage https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/unleash-the-archers/2023/the-sylvee-madison-wi-5ba5efd4.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/unleash-the-archers/2023/the-sylvee-madison-wi-5ba5efd4.html) These were their only two shows this year, also they said the new album will be announced soon
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Circus Maximus announced for day 1....that changes everything
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Oh wow. Soen, Amorphis, Nospun, Winger, and lonestar might be enough to get me there next year.
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Oh wow. Soen, Amorphis, Nospun, Winger, and lonestar might be enough to get me there next year.
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Oh wow. Soen, Amorphis, Nospun, Winger, and lonestar might be enough to get me there next year.
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Circus Maximus announced for day 1....that changes everything
They fuckin slayed it the last time around.
Oh wow. Soen, Amorphis, Nospun, Winger, and lonestar might be enough to get me there next year.
(https://media.tenor.com/tzpPMz8eJy0AAAAM/what-about-me-concerned.gif)
If I were to come, would that push you over the edge?
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Circus Maximus announced for day 1....that changes everything
What????? Come on!!! That changes a lot. I'm going! Last time I went was 2004! :metal
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Oh wow. Soen, Amorphis, Nospun, Winger, and lonestar might be enough to get me there next year.
(https://media.tenor.com/tzpPMz8eJy0AAAAM/what-about-me-concerned.gif)
If I were to come, would that push you over the edge?
Yeah, probably
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Oh wow. Soen, Amorphis, Nospun, Winger, and lonestar might be enough to get me there next year.
:dangerwillrobinson:
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Next year's looking pretty good. I absolutely loved Circus Maximus the first time they played. It's never been quite*that* good since, but most of the time it's been good enough. It'll be nice to see them again.
And Pagan's Mind as well - I think their PP sets have been more consistently great. Curious if either band will have a new album.
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Unleash the Archers were the band of the festival for me. Britney sounded incredible. They were also very nice at the meet and greet. Britney is VERY easy on the eyes and those pants she was weaing made it really difficult for me to focus on the rest of the band :lol I was legit mesmerized by her. The jump kicks throughout the set were awesome. I bought their festival shirt :metal
UtA have been one of my favorite bands the last several years. I only discovered them in 2018 (thanks to Brittney doing a cover of Queensryche's "Queen of the Reich" karaoke style), and they were done touring for the amazing Apex. Caught them in 2020 (my last show before the shutdown) opening for Dragonforce (didn't stay for them), and was absolutely blown the F away. Apex, to me, is their crowning achievement, and such an incredible record. Britt lives up to her stage last name (Slayes). She just wails for days, and it's not some wussy wail. Girl has some absolutely strength behind those high notes. The whole band is top notch. A ton of energy.
What I love most is that they don't take themselves too seriously. They have fun with the material they are playing and with the crowd. They are all geeks, playing D&D all the time, and nerding out on shit. In 2021, they did a tour for Abyss, and my girls and I went. My daughter became a HUGE UtA fan along with me. So this was her first time seeing them. We paid for an early meet and greet, and have some hysterical photos with us all in masks looking like goofballs. They played a killer set.
I'm REALLY looking forward to their new record. They have been playing a new song on the tour, and the album is done, just waiting for the announcement. I hope they get to tour extensively. I know Brittney and Scott (the drummer) had a baby a year or so ago, so that might make things a little more difficult. But as long as it is doable, we're gonna be wherever they are.
Great stuff. :metal
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Next year's looking pretty good. I absolutely loved Circus Maximus the first time they played. It's never been quite*that* good since, but most of the time it's been good enough. It'll be nice to see them again.
And Pagan's Mind as well - I think their PP sets have been more consistently great. Curious if either band will have a new album.
YES! YES! And I hope!
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Angra added to day 1.
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:o
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I haven't been too excited about the last couple Wednesday lineups but the bar has definitely been raised.
Angra, like Leprous, is one of my all time favorite bands.
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Angra added to day 1.
Wow! That two A-list bands right there.
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Angra added to day 1.
Wow! That two A-list bands right there.
Yeah Thursday didn't intrigue me at all but Wednesday is more than making up for it. Circus Maximus alone is worth it man...
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I suppose 2024 is as good a year as any to pop my ProgPower cherry.
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I suppose 2024 is as good a year as any to pop my ProgPower cherry.
Oh fuck it's so on....
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Unleash the Archers were the band of the festival for me. Britney sounded incredible. They were also very nice at the meet and greet. Britney is VERY easy on the eyes and those pants she was weaing made it really difficult for me to focus on the rest of the band :lol I was legit mesmerized by her. The jump kicks throughout the set were awesome. I bought their festival shirt :metal
UtA have been one of my favorite bands the last several years. I only discovered them in 2018 (thanks to Brittney doing a cover of Queensryche's "Queen of the Reich" karaoke style), and they were done touring for the amazing Apex. Caught them in 2020 (my last show before the shutdown) opening for Dragonforce (didn't stay for them), and was absolutely blown the F away. Apex, to me, is their crowning achievement, and such an incredible record. Britt lives up to her stage last name (Slayes). She just wails for days, and it's not some wussy wail. Girl has some absolutely strength behind those high notes. The whole band is top notch. A ton of energy.
What I love most is that they don't take themselves too seriously. They have fun with the material they are playing and with the crowd. They are all geeks, playing D&D all the time, and nerding out on shit. In 2021, they did a tour for Abyss, and my girls and I went. My daughter became a HUGE UtA fan along with me. So this was her first time seeing them. We paid for an early meet and greet, and have some hysterical photos with us all in masks looking like goofballs. They played a killer set.
I'm REALLY looking forward to their new record. They have been playing a new song on the tour, and the album is done, just waiting for the announcement. I hope they get to tour extensively. I know Brittney and Scott (the drummer) had a baby a year or so ago, so that might make things a little more difficult. But as long as it is doable, we're gonna be wherever they are.
Great stuff. :metal
Fantastic post - I 100% agree with everything you said about the band. Also how it looks like they are genuinely fun and goofy (in the best possible way) people. Haven't seen them live, but the last two records are absolutely stellar. I can't quite decide which one I like the best - Abyss might almost get the edge.
Can't wait to hear the new one.
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I suppose 2024 is as good a year as any to pop my ProgPower cherry.
Oh fuck it's so on....
Hell yeah, I'll be there.
This is going to be legendary.
When do tickets go on sale? Are they GA like RosFest used to be, or specific seats?
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Fantastic post - I 100% agree with everything you said about the band. Also how it looks like they are genuinely fun and goofy (in the best possible way) people. Haven't seen them live, but the last two records are absolutely stellar. I can't quite decide which one I like the best - Abyss might almost get the edge.
Can't wait to hear the new one.
Yeah those 2 albums are both outstanding, most be due a new one soon?
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I suppose 2024 is as good a year as any to pop my ProgPower cherry.
Oh fuck it's so on....
Hell yeah, I'll be there.
This is going to be legendary.
When do tickets go on sale? Are they GA like RosFest used to be, or specific seats?
General admission. Tickets for days 3 and 4 go on sale October 21st.
Days 1 and 2 are each sold separately and I think will go on sale in November.
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I suppose 2024 is as good a year as any to pop my ProgPower cherry.
Oh fuck it's so on....
Hell yeah, I'll be there.
This is going to be legendary.
When do tickets go on sale? Are they GA like RosFest used to be, or specific seats?
They go on sale Oct 21,not sure of the time but I'll let people know as soon as I hear.
I think Marc can answer any other questions, he's a regular.
Ninja'd
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Fantastic post - I 100% agree with everything you said about the band. Also how it looks like they are genuinely fun and goofy (in the best possible way) people. Haven't seen them live, but the last two records are absolutely stellar. I can't quite decide which one I like the best - Abyss might almost get the edge.
Can't wait to hear the new one.
Yeah those 2 albums are both outstanding, most be due a new one soon?
I asked and they said new album announcement is soon. They played a new song and it was pretty good. Brittney made a comment about videoing it, so I kept my camera in my pocket for that one. (but I'm pretty sure its on youtube from either ProgPower or Mad With Power earlier this year)
Also, pretty cool to see a lot of DTFers seriously entertaining the idea of going. Definitely adds to my personal excitement for next year if we get a few first timers to come out (and maybe some who haven't recently... Chad!)
Also, my full videos with all my clips are up already (I went on an editting spree since getting home since I've got a few more concerts this week)
ProgPower USA Day 2 Beast In Black VOLA The Halo Effect Zero Hour Seven Kingdoms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofEA-KnJ9V8)
ProgPower USA Day 3 Kamelot Caligulas Horse Ad Infinitum Battle Beast The Cryptex (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVh9HqxOA50)
ProgPower USA Day 4 Myrath Unleash The Archers Delain Visions of Atlantis Evil Invaders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-CnobCv0zk)
Funny how I ran into a couple people from ProgPower last night in NYC at Beast in Black
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I suppose 2024 is as good a year as any to pop my ProgPower cherry.
Oh fuck it's so on....
Hell yeah, I'll be there.
This is going to be legendary.
When do tickets go on sale? Are they GA like RosFest used to be, or specific seats?
General admission. Tickets for days 3 and 4 go on sale October 21st.
Days 1 and 2 are each sold separately and I think will go on sale in November.
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Oh fuck....
:djhef:
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Marc, do you know what the setlist was for Unleashed The Archers?
Same as this minus Dreamcrusher and Northwest Passage https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/unleash-the-archers/2023/the-sylvee-madison-wi-5ba5efd4.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/unleash-the-archers/2023/the-sylvee-madison-wi-5ba5efd4.html) These were their only two shows this year, also they said the new album will be announced soon
So the show I saw them locally was better than the ProgPower set. :lol
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ProgPower vets:
How do I find out about tickets. I see Winger is performing the awesome Pull in its entirety, my friends in Fifth Angel are doing a set, Leprous is on the bill. It may be time the Mrs. and I finally fly cross-country and go to this.
I have ZERO idea on how tickets are acquired and what to do. Please fill me in?
edit - I see the final two nights are Ticketmaster purchases. But then the first two days are separate?
B
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Yes, and they'll go on sale later. They'll be Ticketmaster purchases as well.
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You can follow ProgPower USA on Facebook or Twitter to get updates on tickets. (And lineup changes.)
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Thanks. Cool. Seems easy enough. :metal
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There's also a PPUSA forum over at Ultimatemetal - https://ultimatemetal.com/forums/progpower-usa/
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There's also a PPUSA forum over at Ultimatemetal - https://ultimatemetal.com/forums/progpower-usa/
Fuck thank you...I was trying to find this yesterday and couldn't...I was going to message Matt later today but I can save myself that trouble now.
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I'm not wild about the bands on days 3 and 4--though, to be fair, thats mostly due to unfamiliarity--but the first two are now looking really tasty.
I was really impressed with Myrath this year. I've gone four times in the past ten years, and Myrath's set was probably my favorite of all the headliners I've seen. Caligula's Horse and Green Carnation were also fantastic, and Unleash the Archers were exceptional, especially considering how lukewarm I felt about them the first time they played at ProgPower back in the days before Apex and Abyss.
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ProgPower vets:
How do I find out about tickets. I see Winger is performing the awesome Pull in its entirety, my friends in Fifth Angel are doing a set, Leprous is on the bill. It may be time the Mrs. and I finally fly cross-country and go to this.
I have ZERO idea on how tickets are acquired and what to do. Please fill me in?
edit - I see the final two nights are Ticketmaster purchases. But then the first two days are separate?
B
I know I don't post much, but this year was my 7th PPUSA - so I think I count as a PPUSA vet :P. All the information posted so far is correct, but I'll repeat a bit for the purposes of clarity and grouping info:
The Venue
Everything takes place at Center Stage in Atlanta. Everything is GA, with unlimited re-entry. There is a large GA floor, and plenty of raised seats. I've been everywhere in the venue at some point (including back row of the seats), and there isn't a bad seat in the house. The lobby wraps around, and that is where meet and greet / signings / merch / bar / food sales take place. There is a smaller room near the entrance for vendors (and occasionally overflow signing sessions). Many of the artists hang out in the lobby chatting with fans throughout the festival.
The one musical event that DOESN'T take place in the main venue is the Saturday morning VIP Acoustic set (see below). This happens in "The Loft", which is a small, seated GA space directly next door. This year, they also had the official After Party in the Loft (since the usual official hotel The Artmore was under renovations).
Ticket Options:
Days 1 (Wednesday) and 2 (Thursday) are separate, individual tickets that will (likely) go on sale in November. These are only available from Ticketmaster, and historically have NOT sold out very quickly. Based on the insane Day 1 and 2 lineup (which I am personally way more stoked about than the main days), I think they will definitely sell out eventually, but I don't think you'll have to rush.
Days 3 (Friday) and 4 (Saturday) are sold initially as a 2-day pass (not individual days), and are available from Ticketmaster on October 21st. I expect them to sell out within the day (I think it was within a few hours this past year). Typically, I believe individual Friday only or Saturday only tickets are only available if the 2-day pass isn't selling well. The Gold Badge (see below) includes a ticket for Days 3 and 4.
Saturday (Day 4) Acoustic Set is *usually* only available to Gold Badge members. This year didn't sell terribly well, so they did open it up to the general public.
There are always a bunch of tickets (individual days, Gold Badges, VIP show) that change hands, since the show is so far in advance. The PPUSA forum lonestar mentioned - https://ultimatemetal.com/forums/progpower-usa/ (https://ultimatemetal.com/forums/progpower-usa/) - is definitely the way to go. Closer to the festival time, Glenn Harveston (the promoter) will make a 2024 ticket wanted/for sale thread.
Gold Badge:
I can't more highly recommend this. I've done this since 2018, and will continue for the remaining iterations of PPUSA. Typically, it's either the same price as the 2-day pass, or slightly more expensive (like $10). It includes:
*Early entrance (usually 30 min) on all four days (regular ticket still required for Days 1 & 2)
*Early Vendors Room entrance on Friday
*Door prizes (cds, shirts, merch, autographed stuff, etc.)
*Private email list with updates
*Entrance to VIP Acoustic Saturday show (separate ticket, usually not too expensive)
The system is that you email Glenn (progpowerusa@gmail.com) and ask to be placed on the wait list. Each year, you are emailed BEFORE general on sale, and send Glenn payment (usually I mail a check), and that reserves however many Gold Badges you want. Typically, you can ask him to increase/decrease each year as needed. This means you don't have to stress about passes selling out. The caveat is that if you decline to buy any badges, you are removed from the list (and would have to re-join a wait list). But it really is a no brainer. Every year, there are a ton of bands I've never heard of, and I enjoy almost all of them. And every year, at least a few bands become new ones I'm excited to follow.
Hope you all come next year! \m/
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Thanks for this! I'll keep all the info handy. If we go, this will be great!
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I'd fully expect this one to sell out quicker than usual...the presence of Lovebites changes things a bit. J-metal fans are....obsessive, and the Lovebites fan pages are already drooling that the prospect of the girls finally coming to the US. I'd expect them to hit the ticket site hard and early. Remember, these are the same fans who line up at midnight for GA shows the following day...on a regular basis (for the last Band Maid show I got there at 9am and was 40th in line :lol ). They're that intense.
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I'll second JP's recommendations. I was thinking that most here are just looking to attend random years vs being a regular going forward, but it still wouldn't hurt to get on the gold badge waiting list. The worst that can happen is you don't get one and can try for regular tickets. But with lonestar's info about the Lovebites fans, it can't hurt to try to give yourself another option. And who knows, maybe you'll go and become a regular after because it's such an awesome festival. :)
The early entrance benefit is nice - if you're someone who wants to be on the rail all night or who wants your pick of seats, you can do that more easily with a gold badge. I don't do this, and have been able to get to "second row" on the floor for bands I like just by moving up there after the previous band ends, but if you do want to be on the rail all night or just until a certain band plays, you can. Or, you can get your festival program and cd sampler that everyone gets at the door, buy some merch if you want, and you'd likely have time to drop it off at your hotel room before the first band plays. Plus you get buy the Saturday acoustic ticket if you want to go to that, etc. Most of those have opened up to the general public, but sometimes with not many extra tickets left.
Glad to see so many people thinking about it. :)
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Saw a couple "progpower" shows the last few days in NYC, was outside the venue having a smoke after Visions of Atlantis played, their bassist came out as well so we chatted. He said NYC was better than ProgPower! :yarr :metal I was a bit shocked, he said the smaller audience was better in his opinion. Thought that was interesting to share. Anyway, got to meet and chat with a bunch of VoA members and also most of Delain again. Just an awesome follow up to the festival and I'm happy to see the bands are enjoying the shows too.
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Yeah. Although I enjoyed VoA at ProgPower, I thought they were even better in my tiny local venue a few months back. Folks just seemed more bought in.
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The keyboardist of Myrath requested I take down my video of Candles Cry from ProgPower. I respect his request and did so, but I wonder why? The other song I recorded was not requested. Maybe because of the new album not being available? I'm glad he gave me the opportunity to take it down without punishing my channel, much respect for that unlike some other people cough glenn danzig cough :lol
I'm not sure he noticed the full song is in my full day 4 video, so if anyone cares, secretly, that's where you can still find it
It's also on their Hellfest performance that's on youtube which blows away anything I can ever record on my own, highly suggest if you are a Myrath fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4FoA0Wa8rM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4FoA0Wa8rM)
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The keyboardist of Myrath requested I take down my video of Candles Cry from ProgPower. I respect his request and did so, but I wonder why? The other song I recorded was not requested. Maybe because of the new album not being available? I'm glad he gave me the opportunity to take it down without punishing my channel, much respect for that unlike some other people cough glenn danzig cough :lol
I'm not sure he noticed the full song is in my full day 4 video, so if anyone cares, secretly, that's where you can still find it
It's also on their Hellfest performance that's on youtube which blows away anything I can ever record on my own, highly suggest if you are a Myrath fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4FoA0Wa8rM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4FoA0Wa8rM)
Kevin Codfert is not a very nice guy from what I know. :police:
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The keyboardist of Myrath requested I take down my video of Candles Cry from ProgPower. I respect his request and did so, but I wonder why? The other song I recorded was not requested. Maybe because of the new album not being available? I'm glad he gave me the opportunity to take it down without punishing my channel, much respect for that unlike some other people cough glenn danzig cough :lol
I'm not sure he noticed the full song is in my full day 4 video, so if anyone cares, secretly, that's where you can still find it
It's also on their Hellfest performance that's on youtube which blows away anything I can ever record on my own, highly suggest if you are a Myrath fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4FoA0Wa8rM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4FoA0Wa8rM)
Kevin Codfert is not a very nice guy from what I know. :police:
I don't know anything, but he's much nicer than Glenn Danzig from my experience :lol That may not say much though
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Definitely a low bar there... :lol
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So the PPUSA FB page posted something recently about the 600 new members to that group.
RJ, if your j-metal fan community cock blocks this DTF epic reunion, Ima gonna cunt-punch someone.
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RJ, if your j-metal fan community cock blocks this DTF epic reunion, Ima gonna cunt-punch someone.
Ditto
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I would definitely recommend trying to buy tickets as soon as it goes on sale. But if it sells out before you can, check the PP forum and Facebook groups for people selling their tickets. It always happens that people can't go or the main band they wanted to see drops, etc.
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RJ, if your j-metal fan community cock blocks this DTF epic reunion, Ima gonna cunt-punch someone.
Ditto
(https://media.tenor.com/1DveGzoR8DcAAAAd/bandmaid-band.gif)
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For those who thinking about going this year -- tickets are on sale on Saturday at noon Eastern.
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Reminder that tickets are on sale. :)
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reminder that Ticketbastard had us cock-blocked for 30 minutes.
So far, me, RJ, Dr. DTVT, Hef, King (and Queen), cram (and his +1), and Axeman are confirmed.
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So not only is Winger headlining this, they are playing all of Pull in it’s entirety. That’s pretty cool.
https://twitter.com/wingertheband/status/1715781224340529606?s=46&t=fZEL_VJFXNecsfY2bM-KNA
(Looks like this was mentioned above, but I’m just now seeing it).
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Another washed up band playing an album that will be 31 years old.
When is this gonna stop? And it's not a Winger problem. It's across the board.
It's the ultimate waving the white flag. I mean, people will pay so make your money I guess. I cringed when Dream Theater did it. TWICE!
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Another washed up band playing an album that will be 31 years old.
When is this gonna stop? And it's not a Winger problem. It's across the board.
It's the ultimate waving the white flag. I mean, people will pay so make your money I guess. I cringed when Dream Theater did it. TWICE!
Well, it is probably the most appropriate album of theirs to play at a festive called ProgPower (maybe IV I guess, but nobody knows that one. Not sure how many people there will know Pull!).
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Another washed up band playing an album that will be 31 years old.
When is this gonna stop? And it's not a Winger problem. It's across the board.
It's the ultimate waving the white flag. I mean, people will pay so make your money I guess. I cringed when Dream Theater did it. TWICE!
Well, it is probably the most appropriate album of theirs to play at a festive called ProgPower (maybe IV I guess, but nobody knows that one. Not sure how many people there will know Pull!).
I hate it, and I've been tempting a rant on this for a while. Like I said, it's not a Winger issue.
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I don't really care much about Winger.
But in general, I love when bands play albums in their entirety. New, like The Astonishing, or for an anniversary. It's a different experience than a random set. And, not generally with DT but with other bands, you get to hear songs that they've never played live before. Or haven't played live since the album was released.
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I don't really care much about Winger.
But in general, I love when bands play albums in their entirety. New, like The Astonishing, or for an anniversary. It's a different experience than a random set. And, not generally with DT but with other bands, you get to hear songs that they've never played live before. Or haven't played live since the album was released.
A new album, yeah absolutely.
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I don't really care much about Winger.
But in general, I love when bands play albums in their entirety. New, like The Astonishing, or for an anniversary. It's a different experience than a random set. And, not generally with DT but with other bands, you get to hear songs that they've never played live before. Or haven't played live since the album was released.
A new album, yeah absolutely.
I like it for old albums too. I wasn't a DT fan when they did the Scenes from a Memory tour. I have the dvd of course. But getting to see it for real, it was stunning. I'm glad I got to have that experience. Maybe I see a difference between an active band like DT, or Rush when they did Moving Pictures, vs a band that is indeed washed up and holding onto the past exclusively. And I'm not saying that's Winger - I have no idea what they're doing. But I know it applies to some bands and I can understand the distaste for it I suppose. But if DT for example, decided to do Six Degrees in the future, it would totally make my day.
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Winger just released a new album and have been touring that as far as I know this year (I’m sure the set is full of the hits though). It sounds like the Pull performance is a one-off for this particular festival though. Seems different than milking the 30th anniversary of an album for a nostalgia tour.
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Winger just released a new album and have been touring that as far as I know this year (I’m sure the set is full of the hits though). It sounds like the Pull performance is a one-off for this particular festival though. Seems different than milking the 30th anniversary of an album for a nostalgia tour.
Yeah, the festival and band have both confirmed it's an exclusive performance of the album.
The festival falls on my gf's birthday. She was not happy I went on her birthday this year, but getting Yannis Papadapolous (singer of Beast in Black) to write her a happy birthday message eased that over a bit. This year, she wants to come. So we both got our tickets. I have a lot of homework to do including listening to that Winger album.
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I think Winger should play The Astonishing in its entirety. :neverusethis:
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You son of a bitch. :lol
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There’s a good chance they play Pull Me Under at least!
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I want a shout out for Tim. Just to fuck with him.
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If a tree falls in the forest...
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You are so old saying that about a prog metal festival.
I'll let Kip know. :lol
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Yeah, you do that!
The Kipster and the Hipster. :lol
Show him this picture I took in 1987!
(https://i.imgur.com/RtTpNy7.jpg?1)
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Channel where I saw them?
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Channel where I saw them?
You saw then at The Channel?
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Channel where I saw them?
You saw then at The Channel?
Hell yeah I did!
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I went to The Channel three times to see:
Slayer
Mr. Bungle
Armored Saint
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Not sure when it happened over the weekend, but Day 3/4 is officially sold out.
Not listed on the Day 1 lineup (but announced last month) is Victorius (power metal from Germany).
Day 2 goes on sale Nov 18th ($140); Day 1 on Dec 16th ($135) - both at noon EST.
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Still not sure about the first two days... Gonna play that by ear next summer as I see how my time off situation looks.
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Days 1 and 2 have good line ups this year, I expect to hit all 4 days. No rush to buying those tickets, although I'd imagine Day 2 has a legit shot of selling out this year, just not likely on release of tickets.
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Days 1 and 2 have good line ups this year, I expect to hit all 4 days. No rush to buying those tickets, although I'd imagine Day 2 has a legit shot of selling out this year, just not likely on release of tickets.
Angra/Circus Maximus is a pretty dope headlining pair. The struggle for those days is people having to take even more time off work, being mid-week. And for fuckers like RJ on the west coast, that means taking basically the full week off after Labour Day.
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Days 1 and 2 have good line ups this year, I expect to hit all 4 days. No rush to buying those tickets, although I'd imagine Day 2 has a legit shot of selling out this year, just not likely on release of tickets.
Angra/Circus Maximus is a pretty dope headlining pair. The struggle for those days is people having to take even more time off work, being mid-week. And for fuckers like RJ on the west coast, that means taking basically the full week off after Labour Day.
Yeah, Day 1's have been poorly attended due to that (I didn't even go to Day 1 this year). But Day 2 has been better attended, and I think it may have technically sold out that day of this year. But this year they upped it to 6 bands and with a pretty good line up so it's basically like anotherday 3/4 which hasn't been the case previously. Defintiely more reason to attend if you are going for 3/4.
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Yeah, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards going at least Day 2 for Leprous. Day 1 is more TBD, no bands that I'm familiar with but a few I wouldn't mind checking out. It may come down to how many more of you guys will be in town for Day 1.
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Yeah, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards going at least Day 2 for Leprous. Day 1 is more TBD, no bands that I'm familiar with but a few I wouldn't mind checking out. It may come down to how many more of you guys will be in town for Day 1.
I intend to be there for the entire festival
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Leprous would be when I'd meet up with old friends who live in Atlanta for dinner.
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Yeah, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards going at least Day 2 for Leprous. Day 1 is more TBD, no bands that I'm familiar with but a few I wouldn't mind checking out. It may come down to how many more of you guys will be in town for Day 1.
I intend to be there for the entire festival
Could you wear the shirt and glasses from your avatar so I can spot you and say hello?
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Yeah, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards going at least Day 2 for Leprous. Day 1 is more TBD, no bands that I'm familiar with but a few I wouldn't mind checking out. It may come down to how many more of you guys will be in town for Day 1.
I intend to be there for the entire festival
Madison Grille? Love those gator nuggets!
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Yeah, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards going at least Day 2 for Leprous. Day 1 is more TBD, no bands that I'm familiar with but a few I wouldn't mind checking out. It may come down to how many more of you guys will be in town for Day 1.
I intend to be there for the entire festival
You and me both, brother!
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I played the Pagan's Mind live at Progpower album over the weekend for my gf while we were cooking and doing things around the house. To my surprise, she really liked it. She loved the singer, who I think has a very unique voice so I wasn't sure if she'd like it or not. Definitely a spacey sounding band that appeals to me. I have the blu ray for the album too, maybe we will watch it one night.
We also started sampling some of the bands... Lovebites, Eleine, Frozen Crown were all positive impressions from the both of us.
I need to get that Winger album and start listening, hoping I enjoy that too
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Darkwater announced for Day 1 :metal :metal really enjoyed listening to them a couple years ago when they were announced for the festival before cancelling. I think they were one of the many changes from the covid rescheduling.
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Nice! Day 1 is coming together beautifully for my tastes.
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Also a note about the day 1 middle band (the only band left to announce):
A WORD ABOUT THE THIRD SLOT BAND:
The midcard band has not been announced yet. I am working very hard to make sure that this band's participation in the festival goes off without a hitch. I will announce this band as soon as possible but it more than likely will not take place by the time tickets go on sale. Trust that there is a reason for this and as soon as I can make this announcement, I will do so as soon as possible. - Nathan
Interesting. Also I notice that theres 2 prog bands and 2 power bands for day 1 already. Wouldn't be surprised if this 5th band is a wild card, as in, neither prog or power metal.
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Also a note about the day 1 middle band (the only band left to announce):
A WORD ABOUT THE THIRD SLOT BAND:
The midcard band has not been announced yet. I am working very hard to make sure that this band's participation in the festival goes off without a hitch. I will announce this band as soon as possible but it more than likely will not take place by the time tickets go on sale. Trust that there is a reason for this and as soon as I can make this announcement, I will do so as soon as possible. - Nathan
Interesting. Also I notice that theres 2 prog bands and 2 power bands for day 1 already. Wouldn't be surprised if this 5th band is a wild card, as in, neither prog or power metal.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Lynyrd Skynyrd.
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The Mike Mangini band!
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Winger playing Power Windows in full.
A big FU to Tim.
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It's Dream Theater
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It's Dream Theater
This was actually my first thought when the guy referenced the timing, but no way is DT playing in the 3rd slot.
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Its Pizza Death!. :metal
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I was about to joke Symphony X … But that got me thinking that perhaps it’s SOMETHING connected to a TSO member, and can’t be announced until that tour cycle is over?
So, maybe Symphony X!?
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The Osmond Family
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I was about to joke Symphony X … But that got me thinking that perhaps it’s SOMETHING connected to a TSO member, and can’t be announced until that tour cycle is over?
So, maybe Symphony X!?
Saw them in 2003.
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Cool story bro.
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They're to big for that slot....
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Cool story bro.
Bruh. I know.
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They're to big for that slot....
Probably, but they’ve been largely inactive for number of years. Perhaps Dino Jelusick? I think he’s still part of TSO, and just had a solo release this year.
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They're to big for that slot....
Probably, but they’ve been largely inactive for number of years. Perhaps Dino Jelusick? I think he’s still part of TSO, and just had a solo release this year.
Inactive? They just did a US tour a few months ago.... You probably blanked it out cause they had Haken opening for them.
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:lol
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Nothing's impossible I suppose, but I don't think Symphony X would be offered that slot and I definitely don't think they would accept it. And they're way more active than Circus Maximus has been. And bigger.
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If I had to guess, I'm going with Night Flight Orchestra. They were another covid cancelled band from the festival and I believe the band even confirmed rumors that they will be touring the US in 2024. Also fits my thought that the 5th band for day 1 might not be prog or power metal.
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They're to big for that slot....
Probably, but they’ve been largely inactive for number of years. Perhaps Dino Jelusick? I think he’s still part of TSO, and just had a solo release this year.
Inactive? They just did a US tour a few months ago.... You probably blanked it out cause they had Haken opening for them.
Oh ... yeah... right. Plus, they were playing 3 hours away from me on a weeknight.
I definitely agree they're too big for a mid-card spot, but I guy can fantasize, can't he!?!?!
If it's NFO, I'll be fucking thrilled!
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If I had to guess, I'm going with Night Flight Orchestra. They were another covid cancelled band from the festival and I believe the band even confirmed rumors that they will be touring the US in 2024. Also fits my thought that the 5th band for day 1 might not be prog or power metal.
That's a really good guess. When a promoter holds back announcing a band, it's usually because they have to wait on an upcoming tour announcement, or they have to wait for a band to finish an existing run of dates before announcing a competing date.
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If I had to guess, I'm going with Night Flight Orchestra. They were another covid cancelled band from the festival and I believe the band even confirmed rumors that they will be touring the US in 2024. Also fits my thought that the 5th band for day 1 might not be prog or power metal.
That's a really good guess. When a promoter holds back announcing a band, it's usually because they have to wait on an upcoming tour announcement, or they have to wait for a band to finish an existing run of dates before announcing a competing date.
Or visa issues perhaps.
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There are almost three bands each day I'm excited to see except for the first where it is two + one unannounced, so as long as none of them cancel I'm going to be geeked beyond belief.
Day 1 Circus Maximus and Darkwater
Day 2 Dark Tranquility, Scar Symmetry, and Leprous if they play old stuff. I need to check out Nospun from what I've heard, so that might be 3.5
Day 3 Damian Wilson, Pagan's Mind, and Disillusion. Disillusions last album was really friggin good. I just wish the headliner was something I gave half a shit about.
Day 4 Amorphis and Soen. I guess this day is only two.
Day 2 has me most excited to be honest.
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Day 2 is the one I'm least excited about. The beauty of PPUSA
I don't know Victorious (yet), but Day 1 is a 3/4 :tup's
Day 2 ... Don't really know/like any of them. Twilight Force is too much cheese, I'm sure I've heard some Dark Tranquility, but don't remember at all - so that says something.
Day 3 ... Striker is a good Cdn band, and this is impressive they're on the main lineup. Don't care for Soen, and I'm iffy on Amorphis, but otherwise, 4/6 :tup's
Day 4 ... I've heard Eleine's release from this year - it was ok. I think I've heard some Frozen Crown before, and some good, some so-so. The final three are :tup :tup for me. It ought to be a nice intimate show for Kip. :lol
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Day 1 is looking incredible - better than it has in a long time. Looking forward to Darkwater and Circus Maximus, and Angra is one of the best bands ever. :)
Day 2 - I'm really only excited about Leprous but that is enough; more than enough. One of the most intense live bands, and imo that's regardless of whether they're playing new or old stuff.
Day 3 - Soen. They were great last year. Amorphis has never really been my thing but I've kind of enjoyed them live. And I saw Elegy once a long time ago and liked them
Day 4 - Damian Wilson and Pagan's Mind. A number of my friends are ecstatic about Disillusion and I'm excited for them. I still need to familiarize myself with the band more.
Some of the early bands I'm not too familiar with, but I have time.
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Day 1 may actually be the best day for the first time, but that's based on the bands I already know. I sampled some bands from days 3 and 4 and enjoyed it so I need more listens and then things can change.
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Friendly reminder, Day 2 tix go on sale this Saturday. Whilst I'm not terribly excited about the Day 2 lineup, I'm in for the whole damned festival.
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Friendly reminder, Day 2 tix go on sale this Saturday. Whilst I'm not terribly excited about the Day 2 lineup, I'm in for the whole damned festival.
:tup
Oh hey, that reminds me of something lol
Sorry
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Just made some CD purchases... the new Angra, Frozen Crown, and Eleine albums. All of course to bring to ProgPower to get signed. I also need to start digging into Love Bites. But one band (or three) at a time.
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Just made some CD purchases... the new Angra, Frozen Crown, and Eleine albums. All of course to bring to ProgPower to get signed. I also need to start digging into Love Bites. But one band (or three) at a time.
Remember to get the new Myrath signed next time, it comes out in February. :biggrin:
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Just made some CD purchases... the new Angra, Frozen Crown, and Eleine albums. All of course to bring to ProgPower to get signed. I also need to start digging into Love Bites. But one band (or three) at a time.
Remember to get the new Myrath signed next time, it comes out in February. :biggrin:
:lol this will never be let down
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So I think I may be able to squeeze in Thursday...If I catch the Wed night redeye after work I can totally enjoy it. I'm waiting till the new year to talk to my boss about the trip. Fri/Sat will be easy since the offices are closed Fri and I can bag early on Thur. It just sucks cause they usually close the offices the week before Labor day, so I'll be coming off a forced week off...we'll see, but I really want to see Scar Symmetry.
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Just made some CD purchases... the new Angra, Frozen Crown, and Eleine albums. All of course to bring to ProgPower to get signed. I also need to start digging into Love Bites. But one band (or three) at a time.
Remember to get the new Myrath signed next time, it comes out in February. :biggrin:
:lol this will never be let down
:lol
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So I think I may be able to squeeze in Thursday...If I catch the Wed night redeye after work I can totally enjoy it. I'm waiting till the new year to talk to my boss about the trip. Fri/Sat will be easy since the offices are closed Fri and I can bag early on Thur. It just sucks cause they usually close the offices the week before Labor day, so I'll be coming off a forced week off...we'll see, but I really want to see Scar Symmetry.
We can forge a "Make A Wish Foundation" letter for you, requiring your presence.
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So I think I may be able to squeeze in Thursday...If I catch the Wed night redeye after work I can totally enjoy it. I'm waiting till the new year to talk to my boss about the trip. Fri/Sat will be easy since the offices are closed Fri and I can bag early on Thur. It just sucks cause they usually close the offices the week before Labor day, so I'll be coming off a forced week off...we'll see, but I really want to see Scar Symmetry.
We can forge a "Make A Wish Foundation" letter for you, requiring your presence.
My account actually sponsors them, and has tons of those on the walls. They'd notice. :lol
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So I think I may be able to squeeze in Thursday...If I catch the Wed night redeye after work I can totally enjoy it. I'm waiting till the new year to talk to my boss about the trip. Fri/Sat will be easy since the offices are closed Fri and I can bag early on Thur. It just sucks cause they usually close the offices the week before Labor day, so I'll be coming off a forced week off...we'll see, but I really want to see Scar Symmetry.
We can forge a "Make A Wish Foundation" letter for you, requiring your presence.
My account actually sponsors them, and has tons of those on the walls. They'd notice. :lol
SAY NO MORE
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I enjoyed my first listen of Winger's Pull. Never really gave Winger any attention in my life so I'm not familair, but I generally liked the album. Reminded me of Warrant actually. That post 80s, early 90s rock that still has that 80s hair metal sound. Im not immediately sure how they fit in progpower besides being a band Glen apparantly likes and wants, but I'm for it now :metal (not that I was initially against it, it just initially came off as a joke when the system went out after announcing them in the venue)
The new Angra album kicks ass. Just elevated Day 1 to potentially the best of all 4 days. We will see about that, but it's looking like a really strong day 1 for me.
The Eleine album is solid, but not incredible. It may be a bit too dark for this style of music for my tastes. But honestly, it's just missing some vocal hooks to keep me coming back. The title track is probably my favorite because it has the best vocal melody. Theres lots of solid heavy riffs here and the singer is pretty easy on the eyes in the music videos.
Still need to listen to that new Frozen Crown album, but the singles are solid so I think I will like this but need to give it time.
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Pull is awesome - my fave Winger album.
Honestly, I was disappointed in the new Angra release. I felt there were more than a few duds in there.
Only spun Eleine once (before they were announced), and was rather ambivalent about it. I haven't had a chance to go back to it yet.
Listened to Frozen Crown after that album appeared on Glenn's Top 50 list for the year. Pretty standard power/fantasy metal. Nothing wrong with it, but it didn't necessarily wow me.
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Pull is awesome - my fave Winger album.
Honestly, I was disappointed in the new Angra release. I felt there were more than a few duds in there.
Only spun Eleine once (before they were announced), and was rather ambivalent about it. I haven't had a chance to go back to it yet.
Listened to Frozen Crown after that album appeared on Glenn's Top 50 list for the year. Pretty standard power/fantasy metal. Nothing wrong with it, but it didn't necessarily wow me.
The guitaring in Frozen Crown is what separated them from standard power metal. Those two shred like it's thrash and I kind of enjoyed that.
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Day 1 Ticket secured.
:metal :metal
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Day 1 Ticket secured.
:metal :metal
Ditto
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Ditto as well.
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Got mine just now :yarr
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Oh shit, ditto.
This is going to rock my face.
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Oh shit, ditto.
This is going to rock my face.
Shit man, I even reminded you on Saturday!
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Oh shit, ditto.
This is going to rock my face.
Shit man, I even reminded you on Saturday!
I did it on Saturday. I just didn't post in THIS thread.
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The festival posted the set times for days 3/4 today and mentioned it was always going to be this way.... Winger plays before Pagan's Mind the last night.
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Curious as to why Glenn did that, but it really doesn't matter either way. They both get the same set lengths, and I had plans on seeing both. Still have to spin that Winger album though...
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Still have to spin that Winger album though...
No you don't.
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Still have to spin that Winger album though...
No you don't.
It's pretty good, so yeah, listen to it although Im not sure it will be up your alley.
Curious as to why Glenn did that, but it really doesn't matter either way. They both get the same set lengths, and I had plans on seeing both. Still have to spin that Winger album though...
The last band can play longer than 90 minutes. So while realistically, the last two bands usually play the same length, it's not a given. SOA played their full 2 hour headline set when they headlined. I feel like Voyager played forever when they headlined. But usually a headline set is around 90 minutes so it often works out to be the same.
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The festival posted the set times for days 3/4 today and mentioned it was always going to be this way.... Winger plays before Pagan's Mind the last night.
That's because the place would be 1/2 empty for Winger if they closed.
This way, it'll at least be 2/3 full.
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I'll be there. Haven't seen them live since 1987.
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I'll be there. Haven't seen them live since 1987.
It’s my fave Winger album, so I’ll be all over it.
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You guys are so sad.
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You guys are so sad.
If loving Winger is “sad”, I don’t wanna be happy!
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You guys are so sad.
Ti., my friend,Tim.
That's it. Everyone knows.
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You guys are so sad.
Says the guy not even going! We'll all be happy that night while you'll be grumpy on DTF with no one else to talk to :lol
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You guys are so sad.
Says the guy not even going! We'll all be happy that night while you'll be grumpy on DTF with no one else to talk to :lol
Haha! You're not wrong! :lol
I'll be waiting for my pic of a bunch of DTF dudes flipping me the finger in their Winger shirts! :lol
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We all will take viagra for that pic, fucker! :lol
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The festival posted the set times for days 3/4 today and mentioned it was always going to be this way.... Winger plays before Pagan's Mind the last night.
That's because the place would be 1/2 empty for Winger if they closed.
This way, it'll at least be 2/3 full.
I believe this is exactly the reason.
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Between Beavis & Butthead and Seventeen, I don’t think I can take Winger seriously. If it’s my loss, so be it. But with those sets so close to each other, ya got to eat some time and I think we found dinner time for that night.
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Between Beavis & Butthead and Seventeen, I don’t think I can take Winger seriously. If it’s my loss, so be it. But with those sets so close to each other, ya got to eat some time and I think we found dinner time for that night.
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Between Beavis & Butthead and Seventeen, I don’t think I can take Winger seriously. If it’s my loss, so be it. But with those sets so close to each other, ya got to eat some time and I think we found dinner time for that night.
That's how I'm looking at the Thursday Leprous set. Friday will be tough as I have to see both Lovebites and Amorphis.
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Between Beavis & Butthead and Seventeen, I don’t think I can take Winger seriously. If it’s my loss, so be it. But with those sets so close to each other, ya got to eat some time and I think we found dinner time for that night.
You shame Stuart.
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Between Beavis & Butthead and Seventeen, I don’t think I can take Winger seriously. If it’s my loss, so be it. But with those sets so close to each other, ya got to eat some time and I think we found dinner time for that night.
That's probably going to be Eleine for me.
Friday:
Striker 2:00pm-3:00pm
Fifth Angel 3:30pm-4:30pm
Elegy 5:00pm-6:00pm
Soen 6:30pm-7:45pm
Lovebites 8:15pm-9:45pm
Amorphis 10:30pm-close
Saturday:
Frozen Crown 2:00pm-3:00pm
Disillusion 3:30pm-4:30pm
Eleine 5:00pm-6:00pm
Damian Wilson 6:30pm-7:45pm
Winger 8:30pm-10:00pm
Pagan's Mind 10:30pm -close
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Same, hard to miss any of the last 3.
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The festival posted the set times for days 3/4 today and mentioned it was always going to be this way.... Winger plays before Pagan's Mind the last night.
That's because the place would be 1/2 empty for Winger if they closed.
This way, it'll at least be 2/3 full.
I believe this is exactly the reason.
Yeah, it's a good reason, I remember Tarja not having much of a crowd after Alestorm for the final night even though Glen warned that people may not stick around. She wanted that last headline spot apparently.
Between Beavis & Butthead and Seventeen, I don’t think I can take Winger seriously. If it’s my loss, so be it. But with those sets so close to each other, ya got to eat some time and I think we found dinner time for that night.
Yeah, I may rip on Tim, but if they aren't your cup of tea, there's no reason to force yourslef to sit through the set when there's other things you can do like eat, sleep, and/or socialize.
If anything, my break for Saturday would be Damian Wilson at this point. Although it's hard to gauge from here. When the day comes, shit happens.
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An hour of Disillusion would not justify a Saturday ticket.
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So amazon doesnt sell new albums of Pull by Winger.... found one on Ebay, gently used for 11 bucks and picked it up. I guess they just don't make those CDs anymore? Either way, glad I found a fair price copy to get signed.
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I guess the Atlantic Winger albums were re-released in CD and LP only in this format:
https://www.amazon.com.br/Chapter-One-Atlantic-Years-1988-1993/dp/B0CHXQBNX1/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_pt_BR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3P9WEVLI2Z77H&keywords=winger+atlantic&qid=1704400052&rnid=18726358011&s=music&sprefix=winger+atlantic%2Caps%2C171&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.25548f35-0de7-44b3-b28e-0f56f3f96147
In the first comment there are pictures of it. :tup
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I guess the Atlantic Winger albums were re-released in CD and LP only in this format:
https://www.amazon.com.br/Chapter-One-Atlantic-Years-1988-1993/dp/B0CHXQBNX1/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_pt_BR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3P9WEVLI2Z77H&keywords=winger+atlantic&qid=1704400052&rnid=18726358011&s=music&sprefix=winger+atlantic%2Caps%2C171&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.25548f35-0de7-44b3-b28e-0f56f3f96147
In the first comment there are pictures of it. :tup
well, not sure if that works for the US. If the conversion I did was right, at $118 US dollars, maybe worth it over the $85 used CD on amazon I saw, but the one I got on ebay was an original, not remaster. I'm cool with what I got even if it's used. Picutres look good and I think I'd kind of rather have an original if I can get it signed.
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$11 for a Winger CD is at least $12 too much.
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I guess the Atlantic Winger albums were re-released in CD and LP only in this format:
https://www.amazon.com.br/Chapter-One-Atlantic-Years-1988-1993/dp/B0CHXQBNX1/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_pt_BR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3P9WEVLI2Z77H&keywords=winger+atlantic&qid=1704400052&rnid=18726358011&s=music&sprefix=winger+atlantic%2Caps%2C171&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.25548f35-0de7-44b3-b28e-0f56f3f96147
In the first comment there are pictures of it. :tup
well, not sure if that works for the US. If the conversion I did was right, at $118 US dollars, maybe worth it over the $85 used CD on amazon I saw, but the one I got on ebay was an original, not remaster. I'm cool with what I got even if it's used. Picutres look good and I think I'd kind of rather have an original if I can get it signed.
Sorry, I posted the brazilian site.
So, 4 CDs for US$ 45 amazon.COM:
https://www.amazon.com/Chapter-One-Atlantic-Years-1988-1993/dp/B0CHXQBNX1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=14LT2TG8S6478&keywords=winger+atlantic+years+1988-1993+box+set&qid=1704412276&sprefix=winger+atla%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-1
By the pictures, if they doesn't have the booklets at least it seems like they all are like mini double LP album covers.
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$11 for a Winger CD is at least $12 too much.
:lol
Well, I must say that I have a bit of that feeling about the first 2 albums... but from Pull onwards is another (much better) band IMO!
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Ah $45 is much more reasonable but like you suggested about the insert. I have a display in my office of signed CDs, so I'm really looking to add to that with the album cover. If there were no other options, maybe that would have worked.
$11 for a Winger CD is at least $12 too much.
:lol
Well, I must say that I have a bit of that feeling about the first 2 albums... but from Pull onwards is another (much better) band IMO!
Ignore TAC on Winger discussions :lol but for me, I actually don't know them well. My first listen, a stream, of Pull was pretty good. Since they are playing that album in full, start there for me and that would be what I'd love most for them to sign to kind of like commemorate the night. I'm not sure I'm interested in purchasing their other albums, but I'll have to check out more of their music eventually since Pull isn't too long of an album so they'll play a lot more.
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The first album is, lyrically, typical 80s hair metal, but the musicianship is a cut above.
The second album is like that, but better musical compositions and more ambitious lyrical content (IMO).
Pull is just a more mature album all the way around.
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The first album is, lyrically, typical 80s hair metal, but the musicianship is a cut above.
The second album is like that, but better musical compositions and more ambitious lyrical content (IMO).
Pull is just a more mature album all the way around.
All sounds fine to me, I'm a fan of hair metal.
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:metal
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$11 for a Winger CD is at least $12 too much.
:lol
Well, I must say that I have a bit of that feeling about the first 2 albums... but from Pull onwards is another (much better) band IMO!
Ignore TAC on Winger discussions :lol
Yeah, I'm just messin'.
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Well, the first band to drop out, Scar Symmetry. Happens all the time that the original line up announced doesn't stay intact. Luckily for me, it's not one of the bands I'm trying to see the most.
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Well, the first band to drop out, Scar Symmetry. Happens all the time that the original line up announced doesn't stay intact. Luckily for me, it's not one of the bands I'm trying to see the most.
Well that settles my decision to not go to day 1,theyre the only band I wanted to see. Glad I didn't get tickets.
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Well, the first band to drop out, Scar Symmetry. Happens all the time that the original line up announced doesn't stay intact. Luckily for me, it's not one of the bands I'm trying to see the most.
Well that settles my decision to not go to day 1,theyre the only band I wanted to see. Glad I didn't get tickets.
Day 2 band
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They need to fix the PPUSA site then, it has them listed for Wednesday
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They need to fix the PPUSA site then, it has them listed for Wednesday
Looks correct to me
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That's a bummer. If I was attending I would've been a bit down as Scar Symmetry is a band I really want to see live.
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They need to fix the PPUSA site then, it has them listed for Wednesday
Looks correct to me
They're listed under Wednesday...
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RJMPkWx/Screenshot-20240208-115048-Chrome.jpg)
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I dont see Scary Symmetry...
I think you are confused with a different band :lol
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They need to fix the PPUSA site then, it has them listed for Wednesday
Looks correct to me
They're listed under Wednesday...
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RJMPkWx/Screenshot-20240208-115048-Chrome.jpg)
No buddy
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Sorry, that was after they fixed it, here's the original...
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCCtyKVr/Screenshot-20240208-110449-Chrome.jpg)
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:lol
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Am I tripping? That's thursday's lineup under Wednesday, right?
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Am I tripping? That's thursday's lineup under Wednesday, right?
It never looked like that for me, but you implied a fix and maybe it got fixed after I looked. But you got reciepts so I believe you now, otherwise yeah, I might have thought you were going crazy :lol
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Am I tripping? That's thursday's lineup under Wednesday, right?
It never looked like that for me, but you implied a fix and maybe it got fixed after I looked. But you got reciepts so I believe you now, otherwise yeah, I might have thought you were going crazy :lol
So the story goes....I saw you say day 2, and when I checked the site I saw day one as above. So I posted it on the FB page and either Milton or Matt said it was day two, and I posted the above screen shot with the comment "better fix the site then..." and they snarkily said "we just announced it"... and I went back a few minutes later to check the site and it was corrected...with no apology to me for said snarkiness :lol :lol
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Am I tripping? That's thursday's lineup under Wednesday, right?
It never looked like that for me, but you implied a fix and maybe it got fixed after I looked. But you got reciepts so I believe you now, otherwise yeah, I might have thought you were going crazy :lol
So the story goes....I saw you say day 2, and when I checked the site I saw day one as above. So I posted it on the FB page and either Milton or Matt said it was day two, and I posted the above screen shot with the comment "better fix the site then..." and they snarkily said "we just announced it"... and I went back a few minutes later to check the site and it was corrected...with no apology to me for said snarkiness :lol :lol
:lol damn
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I'm kidding of course about the apology...pretty sure it was Matt since he's the FB page manager, and I love that guy like a brother, we did years together writing for Lady Obscure, cant wait to finally hang in person with him.
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Day 2 just got more appealing for me. :lol
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I'm kidding of course about the apology...pretty sure it was Matt since he's the FB page manager, and I love that guy like a brother, we did years together writing for Lady Obscure, cant wait to finally hang in person with him.
I just went to see on facebook, it is Milton who posted that. Also, I think he's confused and likely meant you thought the website needs updating to reflect the change of band, not the wrong day and maybe after commenting, they realized that and changed it? :lol
Day 2 just got more appealing for me. :lol
Depends on the replacement, but yeah, this change could be beneficial. I'll have to wait and see.
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I'm kidding of course about the apology...pretty sure it was Matt since he's the FB page manager, and I love that guy like a brother, we did years together writing for Lady Obscure, cant wait to finally hang in person with him.
I just went to see on facebook, it is Milton who posted that. Also, I think he's confused and likely meant you thought the website needs updating to reflect the change of band, not the wrong day and maybe after commenting, they realized that and changed it? :lol
Yeah, I didn't word it right...but...in my defense...they did change it lol
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That sucks. Scar Symmetry is a bucket list band for me.
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Monuments is the replacement band for Scar Symmetry, seems like a solid pick
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So sick... Love them. It'll be hard to see them in a normal venue after the place I saw them at last year though...
https://youtu.be/rJf1v3IlF1k?si=YaTwjYe9jjF778c- (https://youtu.be/rJf1v3IlF1k?si=YaTwjYe9jjF778c-)
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There was one moment towards the Ned of the show when the pit was especially aggressive, and a young lady got knocked down right into the middle of the stage. Vocalist Andy picked her up with one arm, while screaming into her face. It was fucking amazing and one of the most metal things I've ever seen. :metal
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Monuments is the replacement band for Scar Symmetry, seems like a solid pick
What is their style?
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Monuments is the replacement band for Scar Symmetry, seems like a solid pick
What is their style?
Progressive metal core I think, I see them listed as progressive metal but it sounds a lot more like modern metalcore to me, but I'm no expert. Just listened to the song shared with the news. RJ would know more.
I think this is a good choice because this style of music is getting pretty popular. They aren't American, but a lot of American bands are doing stuff like this now. I wouldn't be surprised if you saw more Monuments in the future getting onto bigger tours. Also, it sounds pretty technical, djenty. Might be too heavy for some people though. But then again so might have Scar Symmetry.
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I'd actually say more d'jent metalcore, lots of Periphery influence for sure. And the new singer Andy is actually American I believe, and is phenomenal. Just dig into their recent album, it's pretty solid beginning to end.
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I'd actually say more d'jent metalcore, lots of Periphery influence for sure. And the new singer Andy is actually American I believe, and is phenomenal. Just dig into their recent album, it's pretty solid beginning to end.
:tup
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There was one moment towards the Ned of the show
I always enjoy the Ned of the show. Your Kinganese is improving.
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There was one moment towards the Ned of the show
I always enjoy the Ned of the show. Your Kinganese is improving.
I enjoyed this as well lol
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I'd actually say more d'jent metalcore, lots of Periphery influence for sure. And the new singer Andy is actually American I believe, and is phenomenal. Just dig into their recent album, it's pretty solid beginning to end.
Funny how I know little about the band nor do I follow them, but I go on twitter last night and Ronnie Radke is literally calling out Andy for some shit (I have no idea what the beef is) and then I see Andy with a response not directed at him but clearly about him :lol oh geeze
I think they'll be a cool band. Day 2 got better IMO and Day 2 is already really good.
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I'd actually say more d'jent metalcore, lots of Periphery influence for sure. And the new singer Andy is actually American I believe, and is phenomenal. Just dig into their recent album, it's pretty solid beginning to end.
Funny how I know little about the band nor do I follow them, but I go on twitter last night and Ronnie Radke is literally calling out Andy for some shit (I have no idea what the beef is) and then I see Andy with a response not directed at him but clearly about him :lol oh geeze
I think they'll be a cool band. Day 2 got better IMO and Day 2 is already really good.
Went to Twitter to see, and there's like a bazillion Radke accounts.
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I'd actually say more d'jent metalcore, lots of Periphery influence for sure. And the new singer Andy is actually American I believe, and is phenomenal. Just dig into their recent album, it's pretty solid beginning to end.
Funny how I know little about the band nor do I follow them, but I go on twitter last night and Ronnie Radke is literally calling out Andy for some shit (I have no idea what the beef is) and then I see Andy with a response not directed at him but clearly about him :lol oh geeze
I think they'll be a cool band. Day 2 got better IMO and Day 2 is already really good.
Went to Twitter to see, and there's like a bazillion Radke accounts.
https://twitter.com/RonnieRadke/status/1757888158346391623 (https://twitter.com/RonnieRadke/status/1757888158346391623)
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I met Andy after the show, he seemed to be a hell of a nice guy.
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I'd actually say more d'jent metalcore, lots of Periphery influence for sure. And the new singer Andy is actually American I believe, and is phenomenal. Just dig into their recent album, it's pretty solid beginning to end.
I'm about halfway through In Stasis right now. Sounds OK to me, solid but nothing too special, probably not my kind of thing on the regular, but they probably put on a good show. Looking forward to seeing them!
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I met Andy after the show, he seemed to be a hell of a nice guy.
Ronnie is a troll and douche. I follow him for the drama he creates. He had that feud with Eddie Trunk last year about needing his laptops to play live which sparked my interest. His band, Falling In Reverse, is OK though. No idea what his beef with Andy is, but he has beef with like everyone so I don't take it to mean much other than the timing.
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I met Andy after the show, he seemed to be a hell of a nice guy.
Ronnie is a troll and douche. I follow him for the drama he creates. He had that feud with Eddie Trunk last year about needing his laptops to play live which sparked my interest. His band, Falling In Reverse, is OK though. No idea what his beef with Andy is, but he has beef with like everyone so I don't take it to mean much other than the timing.
I'm not sure I've ever heard the guy's actual music, but I know his name from these dustups he has with almost everyone lol
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I met Andy after the show, he seemed to be a hell of a nice guy.
Ronnie is a troll and douche. I follow him for the drama he creates. He had that feud with Eddie Trunk last year about needing his laptops to play live which sparked my interest. His band, Falling In Reverse, is OK though. No idea what his beef with Andy is, but he has beef with like everyone so I don't take it to mean much other than the timing.
I'm not sure I've ever heard the guy's actual music, but I know his name from these dustups he has with almost everyone lol
Ahh, I totally remember the laptop thing, that created serious waves in the metal community. He definitely comes across as a douche from the few posts I read. His beef with Andy I'd imagine is that Andy is a better singer (he's better than most I've seen live tbh) and probably called him out on some bullshit, he came across as being very vocally honest about everything lol.
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He might be a douche, but he was beefing with Eddie Trunk, so I'm team Ronnie lol
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Don't know where to put this, but this band is now managed by Milton from ProgPower, and they're my friends from Brazil. We actually became friends after I interviewed them when their previous album "Espresso Della Vita: Solare" came out in 2018. Now they'll release the sequence to that album, called 'Espresso Della Vita: Lunare". This is the first single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnL6ZtEqXA
My daughter and I did two narrations on the album, and it's my voice around the 4 minute mark of this song. Hope you guys like it!
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Don't know where to put this, but this band is now managed by Milton from ProgPower, and they're my friends from Brazil. We actually became friends after I interviewed them when their previous album "Espresso Della Vita: Solare" came out in 2018. Now they'll release the sequence to that album, called 'Espresso Della Vita: Lunare". This is the first single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnL6ZtEqXA
My daughter and I did two narrations on the album, and it's my voice around the 4 minute mark of this song. Hope you guys like it!
Finally.. Been waiting for the second half of this. Love Maestrick :heart
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Don't know where to put this, but this band is now managed by Milton from ProgPower, and they're my friends from Brazil. We actually became friends after I interviewed them when their previous album "Espresso Della Vita: Solare" came out in 2018. Now they'll release the sequence to that album, called 'Espresso Della Vita: Lunare". This is the first single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnL6ZtEqXA
My daughter and I did two narrations on the album, and it's my voice around the 4 minute mark of this song. Hope you guys like it!
Man, they are on a whole new level on this album...it's a little darker than "Solare", fitting with the theme. You will love this for sure!
Finally.. Been waiting for the second half of this. Love Maestrick :heart
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Don't know where to put this, but this band is now managed by Milton from ProgPower, and they're my friends from Brazil. We actually became friends after I interviewed them when their previous album "Espresso Della Vita: Solare" came out in 2018. Now they'll release the sequence to that album, called 'Espresso Della Vita: Lunare". This is the first single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnL6ZtEqXA
My daughter and I did two narrations on the album, and it's my voice around the 4 minute mark of this song. Hope you guys like it!
Solid song, and that's cool, you got some effect on your voice? Would have never guessed that to be you from listening to your interviews.
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Yes,it's very processed. These guys will be big!
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I was surprised they didn't break out after Unpuzzle!, that was definitely their strongest of the two albums they got.
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Yes,it's very processed. These guys will be big!
Fabio is a super talent!
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Don't know where to put this, but this band is now managed by Milton from ProgPower, and they're my friends from Brazil. We actually became friends after I interviewed them when their previous album "Espresso Della Vita: Solare" came out in 2018. Now they'll release the sequence to that album, called 'Espresso Della Vita: Lunare". This is the first single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnL6ZtEqXA
My daughter and I did two narrations on the album, and it's my voice around the 4 minute mark of this song. Hope you guys like it!
That's awesome! Looking forward to it. They are very under appreciated.
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Time off approved!!!
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:metal :metal :metal
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:metal :metal :metal :metal
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Time off approved!!!
:djhef:
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I actually have Thursday off as well, hoping to catch an evening flight and catch Thursday. Would love to see Monuments in that environment.
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Yes,it's very processed. These guys will be big!
They should be big, I agree 100%. To me they are a cross between Teramaze and A.C.T.. The Queen influences are strong. Can't wait for the new album, hopefully this year. The new single is outstanding.
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It's about time to start my listening to bands who will be playing with whom I am unfamiliar. Should be fun.
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So they still have a TBA listed for Wednesday.
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It's about time to start my listening to bands who will be playing with whom I am unfamiliar. Should be fun.
I've been chugging thru a few that I'm not already pretty familiar with
Dark Tranquility - pass
Monuments - same
Nospun - damn that was sweet!
Victorius - good thing I'm not lactose intolerant
Northtale - decent and enjoyable enough
Striker - really like them - I'd heard their covers in the past, their original stuff is pretty good too.
Elegy - ditto. The earlier stuff I wasn't familiar with, and it's right up my alley
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Yeah, Chad. I can't stop spinning that Nospun album. It's fantastic.
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Striker seems like a cool AOR band. I checked out a song or two and enjoyed them but havent gone back.
Victorius are proabably a power metal band that is more fun in person, but from sampling, it's too cheesy for me.
Dark Tranquility just released a new single yesterday that was awesome. I need to listen to them more, but everything I've heard so far from the past I have enjoyed. But it's melodeath, I'm sure a lot here aren't too into it.
Nospun - I need to listen to the album more. I listened to a couple songs and they didn't click, but it's prog and I need to give it more time and more serious listens.
Northtale - I'm not interested. I have one of their albums and never really enjoyed it.
Monuments - Need to listen more, enjoyed what I have heard.
Elegy - haven't sampled at all.
Darkwater - pretty good, have one of their albums that I really enjoy
twilight force - Im not crazy about them, but they are fun cheese power metal. Actually was supposed to see them last night but I wasn't feeling too hot yesterday so I didn't go.
love bites - actually a band I need to put higher on my listening list. I've enjoyed a bunch of the songs I've sampled, but haven't listened to an album,
Soen - saw them at Progpower before, thought they sounded a lot like Tool. Thought they were solid, but I never want back to dig into them and still havent. I should change that.
Disillusion - havent checked them out at all
Damian Wilson - I'm honestly just not that interested in his set.
Fifth angel - havent checked them out at all
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I would suggest investing an hour to sit down with the entire Nospun album.
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I would suggest investing an hour to sit down with the entire Nospun album.
I second this motion.
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I would suggest investing an hour to sit down with the entire Nospun album.
I remember NoSpun not being good enough to get someone into your roulette.
That said, it really is an album experience and no individual song does it justice
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I would suggest investing an hour to sit down with the entire Nospun album.
I remember NoSpun not being good enough to get someone into your roulette.
That said, it really is an album experience and no individual song does it justice
True... poor choice of song. Plus, the album as a whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
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OK, I have started my listen-through of bands with which I am not familiar. I figured I would go by day they are playing, so I have started with four bands playing day 1.
Angra
Circus Maximus
Victorius
Darkwater
My first thought was to listen to 4 (or so) albums for each group to really get a feel for them, starting with each band's first release. May not continue that with Victorius, because that was a heavy dose of cheese in their first album lol.
I remember that first album from Circus Maximus from first listening to it years ago. It's kind of an Images & Words lift. Which turned me off at the time, so I never listened to them again. I understand they didn't remain a DT knockoff with subsequent releases, so I'm looking forward to those.
That first Angra album was not for me, but I have also understood they get better as well. Wow, that initial vocalist was really going for it.
Based on just these four initial release albums, my favorite was easily Darkwater. We'll see how the subsequent releases go.
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Fascinating. Darkwater's first two albums are somewhat inconsistent in my ears - I don't actually care much for Where Stories End. Human (2019 release - wow! It's been that long!?!?!) is amaze.
Circus Maximus - all four albums are great (other than a 3-song run I can't stand in Havoc).
Angra ... they're an acquired taste for sure. My recommendations:
Matos era - Fireworks
Edu era - Rebirth is my preference
Fabio era - Secret Garden (Omni is great too; nothing wrong with Cycles of Pain, just got too samey)
If you're a Spotify user, you can always hit the "This is XX" curated playlist to get a broader sample without having to hit the entire discography.
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Fascinating. Darkwater's first two albums are somewhat inconsistent in my ears - I don't actually care much for Where Stories End. Human (2019 release - wow! It's been that long!?!?!) is amaze.
:tup
Circus Maximus - all four albums are great (other than a 3-song run I can't stand in Havoc).
Cool. Obviously great musicians and capable of writing interesting prog metal music.
Angra ... they're an acquired taste for sure. My recommendations:
Matos era - Fireworks
Edu era - Rebirth is my preference
Fabio era - Secret Garden (Omni is great too; nothing wrong with Cycles of Pain, just got too samey)
Just listened to Rebirth. It was a TON better than their debut.
If you're a Spotify user, you can always hit the "This is XX" curated playlist to get a broader sample without having to hit the entire discography.
I am, but if they only have 4-ish albums, I am just listening to them.
Angra looks like they've released 10 or more albums, so I'm not doing that.
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No surprise Victorius is not your cup of tea, not sure it's anyone from DTF who's going interest. It's even a bit too cheesy for me. Although, I am interested in seeing them since that type of power metal is usually fun live. i haven't even listened to an album of theirs yet because the singles alone have been enough.
Darkwater's Human is great, but I haven't listened to anything else of them.
Angra is pretty good, but I only have the two latest Fabio albums. I enjoy both and I suspect they'll play a ton off the newest based on their recent set lists.
Circus Maximus, I never listened to the 1st Chapter. I'm probably not going to dig into them too much, I like their last 3 albums and will probably listen to those in the coming months to freshen up. I was definitely hoping for some sort of news of new music since though.
Both Angra and CM played PP before (I think Darkwater has too, but before I started attending) and both were really good sets so I expect those two to be the highlights for day 1 for me.
Of course there's still one more band for Day 1 so I'm hoping for something extra to look forward too but even if it's something I hate, the rest of the day makes up for it already. I'm good with whatever band they get basically.
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I'm hoping with everything I have that it's Night Flight Orchestra
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Since I'm not hitting night one, I'll wait to chime in on night two...
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I'm hoping with everything I have that it's Night Flight Orchestra
Same. Definitely feels like a stretch, but I think there's a chance and that would probably change my perspectives immensely on day 1, positively of course.
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No surprise Victorius is not your cup of tea, not sure it's anyone from DTF who's going interest. It's even a bit too cheesy for me. Although, I am interested in seeing them since that type of power metal is usually fun live. i haven't even listened to an album of theirs yet because the singles alone have been enough.
I am listening to their second album now, and even at the beginning here, this is really some kind of cheesy. Not worried about it live, because it will almost be BETTER if none of us like it lol
Of course there's still one more band for Day 1 so I'm hoping for something extra to look forward too but even if it's something I hate, the rest of the day makes up for it already. I'm good with whatever band they get basically.
Yeah, not sure why they are taking so long to announce it. Is that common? Seems weird.
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Very much not common. I don't think I've ever seen something "TBD". Cancellations and re-bookings happen every year, but never seen something TBA with the comment that they know who it is, just can't announce it.
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I was wondering why Hef posted Victorius in the album thread. :lol
Seemed very unHef-like.
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I was wondering why Hef posted Victorius in the album thread. :lol
Seemed very unHef-like.
lol
Yeah, I've heard all the Victorius I need to hear.
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Looks like we got a ProgPower tag along tour:
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/424914720_18390526090076763_9138670397064745415_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ksbV-q4l5lkAb4k4tCo&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AfAveuuGyE6SNNrbiQSmbyU_QaEHs_5F3ImEB2Ei05SRhg&oe=661B37FC)
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Shame it's Leprous.... I may go anyways just to see Monuments.
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My hot take - Leprous is one of the most overrated bands. I wish last tour they would have opened for The Ocean, not the other way around.
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They do absolutely nothing for me....
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They do absolutely nothing for me....
The three of us can grab some pizza during their set.
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I realize at some point I will have to eat, but the thought of spending money to see a band and not being there breaks my cheapskate brain.
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I like Leprous. I hope Hef wants to see them.
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I realize at some point I will have to eat, but the thought of spending money to see a band and not being there breaks my cheapskate brain.
Cuz the other 21 bands isn’t enough? :biggrin:
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I like Leprous. I hope Hef wants to see them.
Anything for you
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Love you too, baby.
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I realize at some point I will have to eat, but the thought of spending money to see a band and not being there breaks my cheapskate brain.
There should be some food at the venue and there's also a solid break between bands. I'm kind of the same way where I feel a bit obligated by the ticket purchase to check the bands out, even the ones I don't like or know. But sets are long so you could watch a song or two and then go leave the venue if you wanted.
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There should be some food at the venue and there's also a solid break between bands. I'm kind of the same way where I feel a bit obligated by the ticket purchase to check the bands out, even the ones I don't like or know. But sets are long so you could watch a song or two and then go leave the venue if you wanted.
Don't know about post-COVID, but the two other times I was there, they had someone bring in some bulk / catered trays of food for sale. I remember some BBQ and Mexican. It'll do in a pinch if there's ever a day where all the dinnertime bands are of interest - which Day 1 might be for me dependent on who the TBA act is.
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There should be some food at the venue and there's also a solid break between bands. I'm kind of the same way where I feel a bit obligated by the ticket purchase to check the bands out, even the ones I don't like or know. But sets are long so you could watch a song or two and then go leave the venue if you wanted.
I planned my eating time to be around the band I wanted to see the least. I stayed to see some songs, then left.
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Last year they had korean fried chicken in the venue that was really really good. I have no idea what to expect this year as it's been different vendors the last year post covid. But I do expect some food on site. Also, I've never done it, but like you can also uber eats food to the venue. I personally just hate walking around too much outside when it's super hot so historically, I don't roam too far from the venue.
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Maybe something to put on the radar for next year...
I commented on the new Evergrey music video on youtube asking them to come back to progpower next year and the singer responded from his personal account saying "sounds like a plan"
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Maybe something to put on the radar for next year...
I commented on the new Evergrey music video on youtube asking them to come back to progpower next year and the singer responded from his personal account saying "sounds like a plan"
They'd certainly be an ideal act for the 25th (and possibly last?*) PPUSA.
*Though, I'm working under the assumption that Milton and/or Nathan will carry the torch.
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*Day 2 Roster Update*
Northtale has canceled their appearance at ProgPower USA XXIII. The band will issue their statement at their own time. This decision comes with disappointment, but with my full support given the circumstances.
I am elated to announce, however, that TEMPERANCE has been confirmed as the replacement and will now be performing on Day 2. It’s worth noting that they’ve gone above and beyond to make this performance happen and this will not go unnoticed. Please join me in welcoming them to the ProgPower USA family!
-Milton
I'm actually quite fine with this. Temperance is more up my sonic alley.
Spotify: This is Temperance (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DZ06evO0uQgPC?si=416ec3926de74dff)
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This is an upgrade for me. Very happy with this.
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I don't know either band. *shrugs*
*deletes Northtale from listening list, replaces with Temperance*
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OK, I think I've heard all of Dark Tranquility I need to hear lol
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Sounds like it's time for the glory that is Lovebites...just listen to Electric Pentagram, that album is fucking flawless.
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Sounds like it's time for the glory that is Lovebites...just listen to Electric Pentagram, that album is fucking flawless.
I'm on my third LB album right now, which happens to be Electric Pentagram!
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I'm on my third LB album right now, which happens to be Electric Pentagram!
:metal :metal :metal :metal
They're gonna fucking slay so hard man...I've been blasting them for a week straight, and that run from Awakening from Abyss to Electric Pentagram is so killer....so many notes...so much shred...
(https://c.tenor.com/msHlrZssspsAAAAC/lovebites.gif)
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I thought the first two albums were OK, not my normal cup of tea but not bad, but so far this is my favorite from them.
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I thought the first two albums were OK, not my normal cup of tea but not bad, but so far this is my favorite from them.
Yeah, I think it's their strongest as well. You can hear a difference between this and their last release Judgement day, that's because bassist and band founder Miho left. New bassist Fami is solid, but there's a drop in the songwriting for sure.
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I've been listening to their latest album lately. They are incredible musicians. Musically they are really good and right up my ally. I've struggled a bit to really love the vocals. They aren't bad, but they are holding me back from saying this band is really great to this band is really good. I think they'll probably slay live for sure. I'll eventually listen to more of their music. I've got maybe 10 listens of the new album so I've got a good feel for this one now.
Yesterday I made a playlist of all the progpower bands for 2024 that I have on my phone . 242 songs across the following bands: Angra, Circus Maximus, Frozen Crown, Lovebites, Leprous. Eleine, Winger, Darkwater, Temperance, Twilight Force, and Pagans Mind :metal
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I've been listening to their latest album lately. They are incredible musicians. Musically they are really good and right up my ally. I've struggled a bit to really love the vocals. They aren't bad, but they are holding me back from saying this band is really great to this band is really good.
That's kind of where I'm at right now. I don't love the lead singer.
Yesterday I made a playlist of all the progpower bands for 2024 that I have on my phone . 242 songs across the following bands: Angra, Circus Maximus, Frozen Crown, Lovebites, Leprous. Eleine, Winger, Darkwater, Temperance, Twilight Force, and Pagans Mind :metal
No Amorphis or Soen? Or (gasp!) Winger?
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That's kind of where I'm at right now. I don't love the lead singer.
No Amorphis or Soen? Or (gasp!) Winger?
Winger is on there, I bought the Pull album a few months ago.
Amorphis, I know I have an album of theirs (or two? I forget) but apparently it's not on my phone, I need to rectify that.
Soen I do not have any music of. I saw them at a previous progpower, thought they were OK. I never really went back to check them out. I kind of keep forgetting about them too.
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I'm the same way with Asami's vocals, initially they were borderline grating, though they are growing on me. She's got tremendous range, but there's a whiny-tingy edge to them that takes time to get used to. She was more tolerable in the early albums.
Whatever you do, don't express that opinion on a Lovebites fan page though...they're rather protective of her. :lol
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Whatever you do, don't express that opinion on a Lovebites fan page though...they're rather protective of her. :lol
Won't find me near these fan pages so I'm good :lol
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Won't find me near these fan pages so I'm good :lol
There's been a great row going on there lately, there's one dude who's a hardcore fan of new bassist Fami, and anytime someone mentions old bassist Miho, he goes all on a rage that "SHE LEFT, AND TO TALK ABOUT HER DISRESPECTS FAMI!!!"
I told him no matter how much simping he did, Fami wasn't going to fuck him. I got an "lol warning" from the page admin :lol
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I was rolling thru the This is Temperance playlist today.
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Won't find me near these fan pages so I'm good :lol
Same
There's been a great row going on there lately, there's one dude who's a hardcore fan of new bassist Fami, and anytime someone mentions old bassist Miho, he goes all on a rage that "SHE LEFT, AND TO TALK ABOUT HER DISRESPECTS FAMI!!!"
I told him no matter how much simping he did, Fami wasn't going to fuck him. I got an "lol warning" from the page admin :lol
lol
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Jmetal fans are a silly lot...they go from casuals to those with a healthy obsession (me) to those who should probably seek therapy. The Babymetal fan pages are especially disturbing, I left all of those.
On the other side though, the fan bases are also pretty amazing, I'd say the Band Maid fans are easily the best out there of any band... They line up early for shows, and it's a day long tailgate with drinks, food, people passing out fan made merchandise, and general comraderie of fans who know each other very well through the fan pages. They'll buy extra tickets and VIP passes and pass them out to those in need (one dude gave my brother a VIP upgrade no questions asked, $200).
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Jmetal fans are a silly lot...they go from casuals to those with a healthy obsession (me) to those who should probably seek therapy. The Babymetal fan pages are especially disturbing, I left all of those.
On the other side though, the fan bases are also pretty amazing, I'd say the Band Maid fans are easily the best out there of any band... They line up early for shows, and it's a day long tailgate with drinks, food, people passing out fan made merchandise, and general comraderie of fans who know each other very well through the fan pages. They'll buy extra tickets and VIP passes and pass them out to those in need (one dude gave my brother a VIP upgrade no questions asked, $200).
I feel like this just describes every hardcore fan base really. Have their ups and downs with people way overboard on their fandom but then generally most people are cool and friendly and enjoy being a fan with other fans.