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General => Archive => General Music Archives => Topic started by: ariich on August 26, 2019, 01:31:59 PM
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WE’RE BACK, BABY. My last two album roulettes were an amazing source of musical discovery, and I’ve finally finished exploring all the artists I really wanted to delve into from them (everything 8/10 and above, and some of the more intriguing 7-7.5s). Which means, good people, that it’s time to bombard me with music again.
This is going to mostly be an album roulette again, but with a few twists, explained in the ROUNDS section below.
I’ve made the prelim just one song (from the album you plan to send for round 1) so I don’t need to cap the number of people who want to have a go. Last time we had 18 people in the prelim – it’d be great if we could go higher this time!
GENERAL RULES (apply unless otherwise stated in ROUNDS section below):
- Submissions: Whole albums (which can include EPs), sent to me by PM.
- Duplicates: Unlike my previous roulettes, in rounds 0-5 if more than one person sends the same thing, it will be accepted from all of them. From round 6 onwards, if there’s a duplicate, I’ll find some way of deciding who gets to keep it. Pistols at dawn, rap battle, something like that.
- Scoring: Again unlike my last two roulettes, scoring this time will be relative:
- The round winner will get 10 points, and the last placed will get 4 points. Everyone else will score in between, which should give a roughly even spread but I’ll flex based on my relative views on each.
- In addition, there is 1 bonus point for every 8/10 rating, 2 for every 9/10 rating, and 3 for the impossibly unlikely event that I give an album 10/10.
- Length: No maximum or minimum length. In general, I have no particular preference for longer or shorter albums, though albums that don't have much variety of tone or style tend to be better if they're not too long IMO. And on the flipside, an EP of just three short songs probably won’t have much impact unless they’re really good.
- Banned artists and albums: As in previous roulettes, banned artists are based on my RYM profile (https://rateyourmusic.com/~ariich – scroll down to the "music" section and you can use the "ratings" tab to browse what I've rated, but more useful is the "Search ariich's music for" bar to see if something you're thinking of is already in my list - if you really can't figure it out, just ask!). The banned rules are as follows:
- Anything by an artist that I've ever rated 4 stars or more is banned, even if I haven't rated that particular album.
- For artists I’ve only rated 3.5 stars or lower, any album I’ve rated is banned but anything else is available.
- Any artist that scores 8/10 or above in this roulette will also have any other albums of theirs banned, and I’ll maintain a list in this OP.
- The Sidekick Rule: Those who make it past the Prelim and to Round 1 can, if they wish, adopt as a Sidekick someone eliminated in Round 0. That person will then be their partner for the duration of the roulette. Decisions will ultimately be the responsibility of the main participant, but you can both collaborate together as much as you want, and in whatever manner you want.
ROUNDS:
- Round 0 – Prelim: The prelim will be open to anyone, is an open round, and involves sending me just one song/track from the album you plan to send in Round 1. The top 10 will progress to Round 1, everyone else will be eliminated (unless only 10 or fewer sign up, in which case we’ll just jump straight to R1).
- Rounds 1-4 – Albums, open: Open rounds, no eliminations. The expectation is that your Round 1 submission will be the full album of the song you sent in Round 0. However, I'll let people change their Round 1 album based on the Round 0 results if they so wish (e.g. if they come 10th and scrape through, they might prefer to try something else), but you’ll need to explain why. Rounds 2-4 are just normal.
- Round 5 – Greatest Hits: Chance to send me your own compilation, ideal for some artists but tricky for others so choose wisely. 40-70 minutes of music from a single artist, which must come from at least 3 different albums (for this purpose, a single or b-side that was never on a studio album counts as a separate release, but short interlude tracks don’t count at all). There will be no specific scoring for flow so don’t worry too much about it, though of course it can affect my overall enjoyment. After this round, the 5 lowest scoring participants will be eliminated, and the other 5 will play the rest of the roulette.
- Rounds 6-7 – Albums, open: Normal open rounds, no eliminations.
- Final – Concept album: Here I want both quality and a bit of creativity. Here are the unnecessarily complicated rules:
- 40-70 minutes of music from at least 3 different artists (short interlude tracks don’t count towards this).
- Flow and narrative are important. It doesn’t need to be a story-based concept, it’s fine for it to be thematic as long as the concept is clear and it narratively flows well.
- You may use a small amount of music from banned artists, if this helps you get the flow/narrative right. Up to 20% of the total time (8 mins for a 40 min album, 14 mins for a 70 min album) can be from banned artists/albums. The rest needs to all be new and still be from 3 different artists.
- The usual 4-10 points scoring will be based only on how much I like the new music and ignore anything I already know. Up to 10 additional points will also be available: 5 for how coherently the album flows musically, and 5 for quality of the conceptual/thematic narrative.
OTHER INFO:
- I will try and keep rounds to around a week, maybe 10 days. Hangman will occur, and possibly other shenanigans.
- I have a Spotify subscription, so that's pretty ideal for submissions as I can sync for offline listening, but other free streaming platforms such as bandcamp are also acceptable. You can always just tell me what the album is, and I'll see if I can stream it from somewhere, or if absolutely necessary you can send me the files - better to have your preferred submission than whatever happens to be on Spotify.
- In line with previous roulettes, I will listen to every album at least three times, maybe more. The absolute minimum is two listens, and if I'm really not finding myself at all interested after that, I reserve the right to give up on it.
MY TASTES:
I don’t really know how to describe my tastes, but here’s a small updated version of what I posted last time.
I have a general leaning towards rock and metal, but I like music from pretty much any other genre too, as will be clear from my RYM profile. It’s a bit of a cliché, but broadly speaking the stuff I like the most is that which evokes a feeling in me, or makes me want to immerse myself in it. But there are completely different ways that music can do that, which depending on the style could contrast or could complement. An incomplete list of ways that music can, but does not necessarily, speak to me includes:
- Strong melodies and harmonies (doesn’t necessarily need to be vocal melodies, and I’m absolutely fine with harsh vocals);
- Energy and dynamism/variety (which can include technicality);
- Strong production, of various types (e.g. punchy, deep, etc.);
- Atmosphere.
I’d say that all my favourite music hits at least one of those, often more. And if something is particularly weak in one or more of those areas, it would normally need to really excel in others to compensate. But to be honest, I’m unpredictable and something might tick all those boxes and still just not really speak to me. So good luck.
My RYM ratings are probably a useful reference point, particularly on albums I rate 4 stars or higher (https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/ariich/r4.0-5.0), if used sensibly. Essentially everything 4 stars and above I consider to be excellent. Within that, the stuff that I rate even higher (4.5-5 stars) really just comes down to how much it really grabs me and I normally can’t explain why. Higher ratings tend to come either after many listens if something is new, or if I'm already very familiar with an artist then it can happen quicker. With completely new stuff, I don’t often commit to a 4.5 star rating (and basically never a 5 star rating) after only a few listens. So if you're trying to judge what I might like a lot, taking in everything 4 stars and up is a good starting point, and higher ratings can of course be considered but may not be as reliable (to the extent that anything is very reliable, which is not much).
Stuff I rate 3.5 stars I still consider very good, but there's normally something about it that I find lacking for whatever reason. Even more so for 3 stars which is basically "pretty good but not very exciting". 2.5 stars and lower I'd probably never choose to listen to it again.
PARTICIPANTS:
Current survivors:
- Puppies [aka Lex Luthor]
- Cyril [aka Squirrel Girl]
- Tomi [aka Garfield]
- Clortho [aka Venom]
- Luoto [aka Moomintroll]
As host, and having wiped out nearly half the contestants (twice), I am of course Thanos.
Those who got eliminated in the second snap (round 5) were:
- 6th. Evermind ft. Sacul & BIZKIT [aka Desire, Dream & Destiny of the Endless]
- 7th. Train (defending champion) ft. Elite [aka Thomas the Tank Engine & the Fat Controller]
- 8th. Seneca [aka Rorschach]
- 9th=Katt [aka Superman]
- 9th=Nekov ft. King [aka Batman & Robin]
Those who got eliminated (some of whom found a way back to help the survivors) in the first snap (prelim) were:
- BIZKIT
- Romdrums
- TAC
- Jingle
- Sacul
- Stadler
- Elite
- King
BANNED DURING ROULETTE:
Actor | Observer
At the Drive In
Baroness
Barren Earth
Bear Ghost
Bill Callahan (compilation)
Blue October (compilation)
Casiopea
Chaos Divine
Copeland
Dance Gavin Dance
Depeche Mode (compilation)
Disillusion
Dvne
Frequency Drift (compilation)
Glass Animals
The Hotelier
In Mourning (compilation)
Irreversible Mechanism
Jason Isbell
Keor
Kings of Leon (compilation)
Kyte (compilation)
Marah in the Mainsail
Maraton
North Atlantic Oscillation
Persefone
Phoebe Bridgers
The Physics House Band (compilation)
Portishead
Primordial
Shattered Skies
A Swarm of the Sun (compilation)
While Heaven Wept
Wishbone Ash
Woods of Ypres (compilation)
ROUND RESULTS:
Prelim: Part 1 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2580315#msg2580315), Part 2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2580414#msg2580414)
Round 1: Results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2581505#msg2581505)
Round 2: Results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2583438#msg2583438)
Round 3: Results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2585102#msg2585102)
Round 4: Results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2586642#msg2586642)
Round 5: Results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2588341#msg2588341)
Round 6: Results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2590186#msg2590186)
Round 7: Results (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2591882#msg2591882)
Final: Part 1 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2594422#msg2594422) and Part 2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2594464#msg2594464)
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Post-roulette updates: Part 1 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2596858#msg2596858), Part 2 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2597438#msg2597438), Part 3 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2599061#msg2599061), Part 4 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2600050#msg2600050), Part 5 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2600916#msg2600916), Part 6 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2602203#msg2602203), Part 7 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2604141#msg2604141), Part 8 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2604973#msg2604973), Part 9 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2606101#msg2606101), Part 10 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2607030#msg2607030), Part 11 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2608613#msg2608613), Part 12 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2609533#msg2609533), Part 13 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2611143#msg2611143)
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Yeah, I sent you something already!
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You know I'm in
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BANNED DURING ROULETTE:
TAC
Really, bro?
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In
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BANNED DURING ROULETTE:
TAC
Really, bro?
:lol
Would love to have you again. Would also be great to get some new people too - have convinced Seneca, hopefully others will join in too.
EDIT: Also, some of you guys are really quick. :lol I'm going to leave the prelims open for a few days so there's no rush to send immediately, and you're free to change your mind.
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*raises hand*
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like Tim Rogers would say, gimme that sweet cheese daddy-o
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like Tim Rogers would say, gimme that sweet cheese daddy-o
I don't even have the slightest inkling as to what this means, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it means you're in.
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*hacker voice* i'm in
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I'm in :metal
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Round 0 sent :metal
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like Tim Rogers would say, gimme that sweet cheese daddy-o
I don't even have the slightest inkling as to what this means, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it means you're in.
Sometimes I reference things that I know probably only I will understand but it makes me laugh
And yes I'm in, except it is you who will be getting that sweet cheese
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Can't wait
I think
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like Tim Rogers would say, gimme that sweet cheese daddy-o
I don't even have the slightest inkling as to what this means, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it means you're in.
I don't even have the slightest idea who Tim Rogers is.
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Ok. I'm number 9. Turn me on dead man.
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like Tim Rogers would say, gimme that sweet cheese daddy-o
I don't even have the slightest inkling as to what this means, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it means you're in.
I don't even have the slightest idea who Tim Rogers is.
Tim Rogers is a writer for Kotaku whose prose and comedic delivery just resonates with me and puts me into fits of giggles. Not like I'd expect anybody to know that, least of all TAC who doesn't know shit about anything except Helloween and Things That Happened In The 80s :lol
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What's Kotaku? Is it funnier than iCarly?
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What's Kotaku?
You know you can Google this shit, right? Here, let me hold your hand :lol
"Kotaku is a video game website and blog that was originally launched in 2004 as part of the Gawker Media network.[2] Univision Communications bought Gawker Media in August 2016 and rebranded it as Gizmodo Media Group.[3]"
What's a Gizmodo?
"Gizmodo is a design, technology, science and science fiction website. It was originally launched as part of the Gawker Media network run by Nick Denton, and runs on the Kinja platform. Gizmodo also includes the subsite io9, which focuses on science fiction and futurism."
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Gawker Media Group...never heard of it. :lol What planet does this happen on?
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Gawker Media Group...never heard of it. :lol What planet does this happen on?
You are 50 years old and can reference iCarly but a blog baffles you? Fucking A. :rollin :facepalm:
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What's a blog?
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Who am I? How did I get here? Is there anybody out there? Did they ever see the red light?
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How about a Fogeys vs Millennials (because obviously there's nothing in between) competition from round 1 onwards?
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Last time we did that I screwed over my young comrades and seemed to align better with the fogeys
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Yeah you're an honorary fogey Katt
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Us old fogeys like screwing youngsters.
:eyebrows:
My wife is mocking me now.
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Last time we did that I screwed over my young comrades and seemed to align better with the fogeys
I'll let everyone identify in whichever group they feel at home in. :P
And I like your confidence that you'll reach round 1.
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Last time we did that I screwed over my young comrades and seemed to align better with the fogeys
I'll let everyone identify
We're all waiting for K-lox to identify. ;D
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Sign up by August 31st?? Everyone'll be a fogey by then!
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Sign up by August 31st?? Everyone'll be a fogey by then!
:lol I wanted to give a few days to make sure everyone has a chance to join in, before we kick off properly. I'll be listening to stuff before then obviously.
And actually I'm going to move it back by a day to the 30th as that'll be better for when I'm able to get lots of listening in.
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Last time we did that I screwed over my young comrades and seemed to align better with the fogeys
I'll let everyone identify
We're all waiting for K-lox to identify. ;D
The only thing I identify with anymore is my own self loathing
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There's a glaring absence of my name in the participants list :corn
Put me in, baby! :metal
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There's a glaring absence of my name in the participants list :corn
Put me in, baby! :metal
:heart
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Last time we did that I screwed over my young comrades and seemed to align better with the fogeys
I'll let everyone identify in whichever group they feel at home in. :P
I identify as a Meat Popsicle.
Or in the Paramacore/Puppiescore group
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I’d like to participate
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I’d like to participate
Awesome! You were on my list to ask, great to have you on board.
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We have confirmed prelims
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I'll give it a whirl
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Sent for round 0 :corn
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10 hours in, already 12 people signed up, 8 of whom have already sent. :hat
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Ok, I'll give this a run. Hope I don't run out of stuff to send :corn
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I'd like to give it a go, never played in album roulette before :corn I mean if I go past round 0
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Great to hear Tomi, you were also on my list to ask.
And welcome back Luoto!
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Ah, what the hell. Might as well make it another one and done.
*sees that white lion is NOT banned* :biggrin:
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Ah, what the hell. Might as well make it another one and done.
*sees that white lion is NOT banned* :biggrin:
You're welcome to try and win me over again. :P
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Also, my plan maxes out how much I can realistically handle in a timely fashion, but I also want to have as many people involved in some way as possible. So, inspired by recent events in Seneca's roulette, I was wondering about the following:
Those who make it to Round 1 can, if they wish, adopt a Sidekick from anyone eliminated in Round 0. That person will then be their partner for the duration of the roulette. Decisions will ultimately be the responsibility of the main participant, but you can both collaborate together as much as you want.
Thoughts? Objections?
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That's a cool idea.
I sent something funky.
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I would love to be someone’s Robin.
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Also, my plan maxes out how much I can realistically handle in a timely fashion, but I also want to have as many people involved in some way as possible. So, inspired by recent events in Seneca's roulette, I was wondering about the following:
Those who make it to Round 1 can, if they wish, adopt a Sidekick from anyone eliminated in Round 0. That person will then be their partner for the duration of the roulette. Decisions will ultimately be the responsibility of the main participant, but you can both collaborate together as much as you want.
Thoughts? Objections?
I like the idea.
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I would love to be someone’s Robin.
I love your confidence for Round 0.
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I would hate to get someone else eliminated as well. :lol
Anyway, once I'm eliminated, I'm out.
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I would hate to get someone else eliminated as well. :lol
Anyway, once I'm eliminated, I'm out.
I should stress that there would be no obligation on anyone - it would simply be an option that it might be fun for some people to take up.
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I'm with Puppies, unless we're both out or both in I guess? :lol
I'm also in, but I'm dead tired after the shitshow at work today so I'll pick my song and album tomorrow.
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Ok, the Sidekick Rule is now official and the OP has been updated accordingly. I've also updated it to distinguish the participants list between those who have sent and those who haven't.
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I'm with Puppies, unless we're both out or both in I guess? :lol
Yeah, buddy! :metal
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Surprising exactly two people in the entire world, Dacul has not yet sent
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Surprising exactly two people in the entire world, Dacul has not yet sent
I'm surprised even that many people are surprised by this.... :neverusethis:
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The two people are Scar and WildRanger
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Has WildRanger posted a poll about it yet?
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Has WildRanger posted a poll about it yet?
No but KevShmev did.
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KevShmev: The High Quality WildRanger.
EDIT: Poll added on their behalf.
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I guarantee Kevin Moore will be the last to send... :corn
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KevShmev: The High Quality WildRanger.
More like The Original Wildranger :lol
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Kevin Moore :2metal:
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sent
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sent
:icwomangs:
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:vomitard:
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(https://i.postimg.cc/MvsytXNP/93476726.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvsytXNP)
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So Sacul was not last to send, even though not one person voted no.
Stadler, Tomi and Evermind: you are officially slower than Sacul.
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It took Sacul ~28 hours to send since he announced his participation in this thread and it's not even 24 hours since I did, so I'd argue that I'm in fact not slower than Sacul. :biggrin:
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It took Sacul ~28 hours to send since he announced his participation in this thread and it's not even 24 hours since I did, so I'd argue that I'm in fact not slower than Sacul. :biggrin:
-1 point for attitude.
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I AM #IN BABY
Defending the crown aka being eliminated in round 0, will send today :2metal:
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Defending the crown aka being eliminated in round 0
Ah, following in Diego's footsteps then. Look forward to receiving something not very exciting. :P
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:getoffmylawn:
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Sent! Who wants me to be their sidekick from round 1 onwards? :neverusethis:
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It's pleasing that almost every semi finalist from my last two roulettes is back. Although the only person to reach the semi final in both was some jerk called Parama who doesn't even exist anymore.
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Yeah screw that loser, probably got run over by a train he was observing and good riddance
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Sent! Wanted to go with The Light and Shade of Things but obviously Fates Warning are banned. :lol
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Sent! Wanted to go with The Light and Shade of Things but obviously Fates Warning are banned. :lol
Sarah McLachlan - Angel?
Ok so we have 16 songs in, with just Tomi left who has said he's playing but not yet sent. Still going to give it until the deadline for anyone else who wants to join, and have asked LoCo (as another former semi finalist) if he'd like to join in again.
Once all submissions are in, I'll post some stats, but one interesting tid-bit: Lots of recent music and some older stuff, but NOTHING IN BETWEEN. There's an 18-year gap with no submissions (yet).
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2018 crew represent
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Just sent!
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I long for the sweet release of death. Give it to me
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2018 crew represent
2017 says "Sup."
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2016 says the same thing.
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2012 for me
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1994 in the house :lol
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Well, we've discovered the 18 year gap.
Rip the entire 2000's
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1989 standing loud and proud.
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1989 standing loud and proud.
Didn't know you were a Taylor Swift stan
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1989 standing loud and proud.
Didn't know you were a Taylor Swift stan
Stadler sent Motley Crue's Dr. Feelgood.
Hey ariich, I'll take that last spot. Sending shortly.
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Awesome, although you confused me by doing it as an email via DTF, rather than as a PM. :lol I prefer PMs. :P
And to clarify, that wasn't the last spot - round 0 is open to as many people as want to sign up by Friday.
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1989 standing loud and proud.
Didn't know you were a Taylor Swift stan
Actually, I am (and nice catch, BTW). I think that is a great album, and will - given what she's done so far - will likely be considered her best album. I think Wildest Dreams (which I think is only available as a bonus track on the deluxe edition) is one of the best pop songs ever written.
She loses me a little bit with some of the more preachy stuff, but when she's pop sugar, I'm in.
EDIT: I did not send Dr. Feelgood, though I could have.
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Awesome, although you confused me by doing it as an email via DTF, rather than as a PM. :lol I prefer PMs. :P
And to clarify, that wasn't the last spot - round 0 is open to as many people as want to sign up by Friday.
Sorry about that! Must've clicked the wrong icon by mistake. :facepalm:
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Awesome, although you confused me by doing it as an email via DTF, rather than as a PM. :lol I prefer PMs. :P
And to clarify, that wasn't the last spot - round 0 is open to as many people as want to sign up by Friday.
Sorry about that! Must've clicked the wrong icon by mistake. :facepalm:
All good my man.
Have updated the thread title to specify 5pm UK time for Friday's deadline (which is midday EDT - for any other timezones people can figure it out themselves :P). So definitely hangman and probably first impressions will be posted on Friday afternoon/evening depending on where in the world you are.
In the meantime, I'll post some stats about the 18 submissions so far, such as:
Number of submissions by time period
pre-2000: 3
2000-10: 0
2011-15: 3
2016-17: 4
2018: 5
2019: 3
EDIT: FYI As I get a feel for which ones are going through to Round 1, I'll be using the same breakdowns.
EDIT2: Updated to correct errors in my data. :P
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1989 standing loud and proud.
Hot In The Shade
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1989 standing loud and proud.
Hot In The Shade
:rollin
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1989 standing loud and proud.
Hot In The Shade
Read My Body. :lol
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Update on the 18 songs so far, based on my first couple of listens.
5 are safe and definitely going to round 1
8 are pretty strong after a couple of listens, and contenders for the other 5 spots
5 are not really interesting me so far and are unlikely to progress
By time period, these breakdown as follows:
pre-2000: 1 safe, 0 contenders, 2 unlikely
2011-15: 1 safe, 1 contender, 1 unlikely
2016-17: 2 safe, 2 contenders, 0 unlikely
2018: 1 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
2019: 0 safe, 2 contenders, 1 unlikely
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This breakdown looks good for me, so I'm probably the only unlikely one in the 2016-2017 bracket. :lol
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This breakdown looks good for me, so I'm probably the only unlikely one in the 2016-2017 bracket. :lol
No comment.
:neverusethis:
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Aw shit
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Right, so it turns out I managed to make two errors in my data affecting three albums. :lol Good thing I'm an auditor.
I've updated the stats in my earlier posts and changed the date categories so each is 3-5 albums. I'll do this once we're into the main roulette as well: two groups of 3 and a group of 4 in each round. Might not always be by release date either.
pre-2000: 1 safe, 0 contenders, 2 unlikely
2011-15: 1 safe, 1 contender, 1 unlikely
2016-17: 2 safe, 2 contenders, 0 unlikely
2018: 1 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
2019: 0 safe, 2 contenders, 1 unlikely
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Ok, that's a little better
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It's definitely more balanced across categories than it (incorrectly) looked before.
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My 2015 release is definitely safe :) (maybe if I say it I'll believe it)
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My 2018 release is probably on the chopping block.
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My 2017 song feels like it made it.
I hope.
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2019: 0 safe, 2 contenders, 1 unlikely
Well, this was fun! :lol
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Oh yeah I'm done for
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I've decided the only thing I'll leave until after the sign-up deadline is hangman. Until then, there are two more things to post based on the current 18 submissions, one today and one tomorrow morning:
- Safe/contender/unlikely stats by song length
- First impressions
Which would you like first? New poll added.
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pre-2000: 1 safe, 0 contenders, 2 unlikely
Damn, hope I am the safe one :lol
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Which would you like first?
A free pass to the next round? :D
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1989 standing loud and proud.
Hot In The Shade
Read My Body. :lol
Am I that predictable at this point? That's a great album! :)
(Didn't send it though. TAC and King ought to be able to guess what I did send, though.)
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I've decided the only thing I'll leave until after the sign-up deadline is hangman. Until then, there are two more things to post based on the current 18 submissions, one today and one tomorrow morning:
- Safe/contender/unlikely stats by song length
- First impressions
Which would you like first? New poll added.
Only 3 votes :lol But first impressions are more popular. If that doesn't change in the next hour, I'll go ahead and post them.
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I picked the second option.
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I picked the second option.
Second option, Nils Frahm, you just have to be contrarian don't you?
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First option.
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I picked the second option.
Second option, Nils Frahm, you just have to be contrarian don't you?
:lol Hey! Nils Frahm is dope, and the second option because there's a 66% probability that I don't make it past this round!
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2018 unlikely :metal
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Ok then, first impressions seems to be the clear winner (6 votes to 3) so here they are. One of these is rather more obvious and specific than the others. :lol Also, keep in mind that these were all written after only the first listen. My views on some of them have shifted a little already.
Prelim first impressions
1. Immediately enjoyable, dark and energetic.
2. Enjoyable modern version of an otherwise dated style. Not sure about the vocals so far.
3. This is a lot darker than I was expecting. It’s really cool and I already can't wait to hear the album.
4. Great vibe, but after one listen I'm not sure the song has enough of a focal point.
5. Solid example of exactly the sort of thing I'd expect you to send. I do wonder if you've played it too safe here though.
6. Pretty much the sort of thing I’d expect you to send. It’s nice enough, but it’s not really doing much for me.
7. I've heard this artist before, but this definitely sounds more interesting, if still a little lacking in wow factor.
8. I've heard this artist before, and once again on paper they sound good but the music just isn't grabbing me (so far).
9. Pretty fun song despite being quite moody. Nice guitar work. Not sure I find it very exciting though.
10. Nice prog, but it didn’t make a big immediate impression on me.
11. Beautifully emotive, with a sonic richness I didn't expect in the opening of the song.
12. Cool song, but possibly held back by the production.
13. There’s loads to like here but some of the vocals grated me a bit, which could be a sticking point.
14. This is evidently from a concept album. I like it, but I'm not sure how well it works out of context.
15. Takes a while to get going, but it's a lovely song that hits an extremely niche soft spot of mine.
16. Takes even longer to get going, but boy when it does it has some really exciting stuff.
17. Warm and pleasant... but that might be it. Don’t really remember anything else about it.
18. This sounds like a jazz cover of Japanese video game music. Is it corny or awesome though?
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"18. This sounds like a jazz cover of Japanese video game music. Is it corny or awesome though?"
bruh c'mon it's jazz fusion/funk! oh yeah this is mine btw
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None clue
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None clue
I'm happy to narrow yours down to numbers 1-17.
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If I had to wager, I'd lay my chips on Black 11.
Though, if history is any indicator, I could very well be awarded with 5 ... or alternatively either of the 'heard the artist before' comments
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15. Takes a while to get going, but it's a lovely song that hits an extremely niche soft spot of mine.
Half of these could be mine, hope it's this one.
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Prelim first impressions
1. Immediately enjoyable, dark and energetic.
2. Enjoyable modern version of an otherwise dated style. Not sure about the vocals so far.
3. This is a lot darker than I was expecting. It’s really cool and I already can't wait to hear the album.
4. Great vibe, but after one listen I'm not sure the song has enough of a focal point.
5. Solid example of exactly the sort of thing I'd expect you to send. I do wonder if you've played it too safe here though.
6. Pretty much the sort of thing I’d expect you to send. It’s nice enough, but it’s not really doing much for me.
7. I've heard this artist before, but this definitely sounds more interesting, if still a little lacking in wow factor.
8. I've heard this artist before, and once again on paper they sound good but the music just isn't grabbing me (so far).
9. Pretty fun song despite being quite moody. Nice guitar work. Not sure I find it very exciting though.
12. Cool song, but possibly held back by the production.
13. There’s loads to like here but some of the vocals grated me a bit, which could be a sticking point.
15. Takes a while to get going, but it's a lovely song that hits an extremely niche soft spot of mine.
16. Takes even longer to get going, but boy when it does it has some really exciting stuff.
17. Wow, Stadler, your taste in music is outstanding; this is certainly the song to beat so far.
Any of those could be mine, though as you said, one was way more obvious and specific than the others.
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14. This is evidently from a concept album. I like it, but I'm not sure how well it works out of context.
What gave it away, the fact that I mentioned it like four times in my two-paragraph writeup? :biggrin:
There are better standalone songs on the album but this is my favourite so it made sense to send that.
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Byond the Bride?
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If I had to guess, I'd say mine is 1, 3, or 14.
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I think it's banned but if it's not I'll be definitely pushing this album as a sidekick to my patron, because apparently I'm either unlikely or one of the two contenders in the 2016 bracket.
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14. This is evidently from a concept album. I like it, but I'm not sure how well it works out of context.
What gave it away, the fact that I mentioned it like four times in my two-paragraph writeup? :biggrin:
There are better standalone songs on the album but this is my favourite so it made sense to send that.
For the record there are at least three obvious concept albums, and two people specifically referenced this fact in their submissions.
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You got to allow all three to proceed to Round 1, obviously.
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Songs that are clearly from concept albums: 1 safe, 2 contenders, 0 unlikely
I do love stats.
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I think mine is one of 9, 11, 12, 17
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I think mine is one of 9, 11, 12, 17
How can yours be 17?!?
(See my last post...) ;D ;D
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I hope mine is number 3.
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14. This is evidently from a concept album. I like it, but I'm not sure how well it works out of context.
What gave it away, the fact that I mentioned it like four times in my two-paragraph writeup? :biggrin:
There are better standalone songs on the album but this is my favourite so it made sense to send that.
For the record there are at least three obvious concept albums, and two people specifically referenced this fact in their submissions.
*Waves hand*
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I think mine is one of 9, 11, 12, 17
How can yours be 17?!?
(See my last post...) ;D ;D
Cause my name is Stadler too :o
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I think mine is one of 9, 11, 12, 17
How can yours be 17?!?
(See my last post...) ;D ;D
Cause my name is Stadler too :o
HAHA! :tup
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Nekov in Argentinian is Stadler.
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HAHA, I'm busted!
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:lol
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Some new stats as promised, by song length:
00:00-04:30: 2 safe, 1 contender, 2 unlikely
04:31-06:30: 2 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
06:31-12:00: 1 safe, 4 contenders, 2 unlikely
Hangman will be up basically as soon as the deadline passes, and then results over the weekend, maybe even tomorrow if I can make my final decisions and get write-ups done.
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Hope mine is not the only unlikely one in that second group
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Oh shit, my song is in last group but still, it could be one that's safe. But when looking at both stats it could be anything :lol (and that probably works for every song, ariich, you bastard)
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Oh shit, my song is in last group but still, it could be one that's safe. But when looking at both stats it could be anything :lol (and that probably works for every song, ariich, you bastard)
:lol Yeah I wanted to keep the groups big enough so that while people can speculate, they can't work it out for certain.
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the one unlikely in the second group :metal
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Some new stats as promised, by song length:
00:00-04:30: 2 safe, 1 contender, 2 unlikely
04:31-06:30: 2 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
06:31-12:00: 1 safe, 4 contenders, 2 unlikely
Hangman will be up basically as soon as the deadline passes, and then results over the weekend, maybe even tomorrow if I can make my final decisions and get write-ups done.
my song has some brilliant musicianship and I am praying I get through but considering my 66% chance of dropping out of the 'oldies' group I'm in, my breath is not being held
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Some new stats as promised, by song length:
00:00-04:30: 2 safe, 1 contender, 2 unlikely
04:31-06:30: 2 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
06:31-12:00: 1 safe, 4 contenders, 2 unlikely
Hangman will be up basically as soon as the deadline passes, and then results over the weekend, maybe even tomorrow if I can make my final decisions and get write-ups done.
How about skipping hangman and get right to the results so I can get on with my life! :lol
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Some new stats as promised, by song length:
00:00-04:30: 2 safe, 1 contender, 2 unlikely
04:31-06:30: 2 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
06:31-12:00: 1 safe, 4 contenders, 2 unlikely
Hangman will be up basically as soon as the deadline passes, and then results over the weekend, maybe even tomorrow if I can make my final decisions and get write-ups done.
How about skipping hangman and get right to the results so I can get on with my life! :lol
Do you mean that DTF is not your life?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPOq9Jm455Ce2b8R2/giphy.gif)
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:lol
It sure is!
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pre-2000: 1 safe, 0 contenders, 2 unlikely
Ok so my song is from the pre-2000s group...
00:00-04:30: 2 safe, 1 contender, 2 unlikely
...and it's also in the shortest group.
So I've got a 1/3 chance of being safe in the first case, and 2/5 in the second one, meaning there's a 13% chance I'm on the safe side :lol.
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ariich's Statistically Nervewracking Roulette
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2018: 1 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
04:31-06:30: 2 safe, 3 contenders, 1 unlikely
almost the same stats in both for me :lol
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It's already 5pm in London. Where's the hangman?
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Mine is just a bit longer than 6:30 so definitely a contender then given the concept album statistics.
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It's already 5pm in London. Where's the hangman?
I technically never specified how long "basically as soon as" is. :P
With apologies for the small delay, IT'S TIME FOR HANGMAN
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Guessed letters:
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give me my first and final D
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Oh I'll give you D. I'll give you all the D.
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?: _d__ ___d_ – D_____, ___ D_ ___ ___
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?: ____ – _________
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Guessed letters: D
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Give me N for no way I'm passing go
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Show me H for HANGMEMES!
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A
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Idle Hands - Dragon, Why Do You Cry?
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?: _h_ ______n_ – _h_ D______n
?: Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry
?: _a_ah _n _h_ _a_n_a__ – __n_ ____n
?: _a_____a – _a_a____ __n_
?: ____ – ______h__
?: _h____ ___d____ – __n__a_
?: _h_ __n_a____ _h___ – _h___ ____
?: _a__n___ – _h____n_ _ __n_
?: N___h A__an___ ______a___n – ______ ___h A________
?: ____d___ – A____n
?: _n _h_ _____n__ __ ______ – _an __ _h_ _____
?: _h_ ____ – ____ A_____
?: _a_a__n – ____d _____
?: A____ _ ________ – D_____an__
?: _a___ _a___n__n – _ad____n_ ________
?: ______ Ad____ – An___ and A____
?: _______ – H__ D_ ___ ____
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Guessed letters: HAND
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In the Presence of Wolves - Man of the Times
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I'll take an "S" Mr. Sajak.
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North Atlantic Oscillation
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Spirit Adrift - Angel and Abyss sent by puppies
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All good so far. Whereas my efforts to decide who progresses to round 1 is proving difficult.
?: _h_ ______n_ – _h_ D___s__n
?: Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry
?: _a_ah _n _h_ _a_nsa__ – __n_ ____n
?: _as____a – _a_a____ __n_
?: ____ – ______h__
?: _h____ ___d___s – __n__a_
?: _h_ __n_a____ _h___ – _h___ __s_
?: _a__n_ss – _h____n_ _ __n_
?: North Atlantic Oscillation – ______ ___h A________
?: S___d___ – A__s_n
?: In the Presence of Wolves – Man of the Times
?: _h_ ____ – S___ As____
?: _a_a__n – ____d __s__
?: A____ _ __s_____ – D_____an__
?: _a___ _a___ns_n – _ad____n_ _______s
Puppies: Spirit Adrift – Angel and Abyss
?: __s____ – H__ D_ ___ ____
?: ____ _a____ ____ – ____
Guessed letters: HANDS
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Give me an R
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Give me P
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T
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Baroness - Chlorine & Wine
Idle Hands is probably TAC
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hmm, that's a good song pick for Baroness but an interesting album pick :corn
I'll take O I guess
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Marah in the Mainsail - Bone Crown
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C
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?: Th_ R_t_c_nt – Th_ D_c_s_on
TAC: Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry
?: Marah in the Mainsail – Bone Crown
?: Cas_op_a – _a_act_c __n_
?: __or – P_tr_chor
?: Pho___ _r_d__rs – __n_ra_
?: Th_ P_n_app__ Th___ – _h_t_ __st
?: Baroness – Chlorine & Wine
?: North Atlantic Oscillation – __p_rt __th A_t___t_r
?: S_o_d___ – A__son
?: In the Presence of Wolves – Man of the Times
?: Th_ C__t – So__ As____
?: _araton – __ood __s_c
?: Actor _ O_s_r__r – D___ttant_
?: _a_or Par__nson – _ad____n_ Cr_____s
Puppies: Spirit Adrift – Angel and Abyss
?: __st_r_ – Ho_ Do _o_ ____
?: ____ _ar__r __ro – ____
Guessed letters: HAND SPORT C
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The Reticent. Someone is a motherfucker.
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The Pineapple Thief: White Mist
Major Parkinson
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Soul Asylum by The Cult sent by Stadler
The Reticent is The Decision
Maraton - Blood Music
Major Parkinson - Madeleine Crumbles
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Maraton must be Luoto. He is playing right?
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Saor - Petrichor
Phoebe Bridgers
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Maraton must be Luoto. He is playing right?
If only there was a participants list :neverusethis:
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Maraton must be Luoto. He is playing right?
If only there was a participants list :neverusethis:
Technology FTW!!
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I see Casiopea. Interesting choice.
How was The Pineapple Thief not banned?
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oh damn The Reticent wasn't banned in this one? nice, you're safe most likely my dude
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I think The Reticent is The Decision.
EDIT: I saw that, Cyril, you sly bastard :lol
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Phoebe Bridgers is Funeral, sent by the seneca of dawgs
Mystery - How Do You Feel, jingle?
Casiopea?
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Saor Keor - Petrichor
:)
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Saor Keor - Petrichor
:)
Well corrected.
Do I see Casiopea?
?: The Reticent – The Decision
TAC: Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry
?: Marah in the Mainsail – Bone Crown
?: Casiopea – _a_act_c __n_
?: Keor – Petrichor
Seneca: Phoebe Bridgers – Funeral
?: The Pineapple Thief – White Mist
?: Baroness – Chlorine & Wine
?: North Atlantic Oscillation – E_pert __th A_t__eter
?: S_o_d__e – A__son
?: In the Presence of Wolves – Man of the Times
Stadler: The Cult – Soul Asylum
Luoto: Maraton – Blood Music
?: Actor _ O_ser_er – D__ettante
Elite: Major Parkinson – Madeleine Crumbles
Puppies: Spirit Adrift – Angel and Abyss
Jingle: Mystery – How Do You Feel
?: ___e _ar_er _ero – ____
Guessed letters: HAND SPORT CE
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E
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Updated above.
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Elite is Major Parkinson
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The Reticent. Someone is a motherfucker.
I think I've heard that before somewhere, oh wait, here it is.
Evermind, you're a fucking mother fucker!
:biggrin:
oh damn The Reticent wasn't banned in this one? nice, you're safe most likely my dude
I wish, man, I wish. I'm fairly sure I'm among the contenders though. Probably should've sent something else from the album like the actual opener or The Mirror's Reply or that song with sax but this is my favourite track so I sent that one.
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:lol
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This album is just so awesome though, Tim. This is honestly one of my best discoveries in my roulette so far.
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i need to relisten to that one again sometime, it's been a bit
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This album is just so awesome though, Tim. This is honestly one of my best discoveries in my roulette so far.
Um..yes, I'm aware of that! :lol
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North Atlantic Oscillation is Expert with Altimeter, sent by Nekov. (hopefully y'all don't mind non-participants in the hangman)
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North Atlantic Oscillation is Expert with Altimeter, sent by Nekov. (hopefully y'all don't mind non-participants in the hangman)
Far from it, the more the merrier!
Evermind: The Reticent – The Decision
TAC: Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry
?: Marah in the Mainsail – Bone Crown
?: Casiopea – _a_act_c __n_
?: Keor – Petrichor
Seneca: Phoebe Bridgers – Funeral
?: The Pineapple Thief – White Mist
?: Baroness – Chlorine & Wine
Nekov: North Atlantic Oscillation – Expert with Altimeter
?: S_o_d__e – A__son
?: In the Presence of Wolves – Man of the Times
Stadler: The Cult – Soul Asylum
Luoto: Maraton – Blood Music
Cyril: Actor | Observer – Dilettante
Elite: Major Parkinson – Madeleine Crumbles
Puppies: Spirit Adrift – Angel and Abyss
Jingle: Mystery – How Do You Feel
?: ___e _ar_er _ero – ____
Guessed letters: HAND SPORT CE
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Actor|Observer: Dilettante
Total ParamaCyrilCore.
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Yes indeed, updated above.
EDIT: By the way, I've now decided on 8 survivors and 6 eliminations. There remain 4 contenders, of which I can only keep 2, and I'm finding it really difficult!
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:corn :corn :corn
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Maybe start by doing one survivor and one elimination until you decide on the others..
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Maybe start by doing one survivor and one elimination until you decide on the others..
I'm heading to bed now, but it's not a bad idea. I reckon I'll post a few of each in the morning (perhaps the original 5 safes and unlikelies).
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At 5 o'clock ariich will take me to the gallows poooooooole
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At 5 o'clock ariich will take me to the gallows poooooooole
The sands of time for Kat are running loooooooooooowww
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At 5 o'clock ariich will take me to the gallows poooooooole
The sands of time for Kat are running loooooooooooowww
Kat v Pup: Dawn of Roulette Justice
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I thought you brought Kat?
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Kat v Pup: Dawn of Roulette Justice
(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/science/2016/03/12/cat_dog_3564301a_%281%29_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=450)
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Slowdive and Mile Marker Zero are the unguessed bands
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Slowdive is probably Sacul
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Train sent Mile Marker Zero then
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Ehhh I used to, that was one of those albums where I was really into the music at first but got super bored with it after a while. No es mio :/
I think I’m a contender judging by the lengths (longest songs group), year (2018) and given that it’s fairly obviously from a concept album.
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Wanna team up after this round then? :neverusethis:
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Unless we’re both in or both out after the prelims, we have a deal!
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Evermind: The Reticent – The Decision
TAC: Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry
?: Marah in the Mainsail – Bone Crown
?: Casiopea – _a_act_c __n_
?: Keor – Petrichor
Seneca: Phoebe Bridgers – Funeral
?: The Pineapple Thief – White Mist
?: Baroness – Chlorine & Wine
Nekov: North Atlantic Oscillation – Expert with Altimeter
Sacul: Slowdive – A__son
?: In the Presence of Wolves – Man of the Times
Stadler: The Cult – Soul Asylum
Luoto: Maraton – Blood Music
Cyril: Actor | Observer – Dilettante
Elite: Major Parkinson – Madeleine Crumbles
Puppies: Spirit Adrift – Angel and Abyss
Jingle: Mystery – How Do You Feel
?: Mile Marker Zero – ____
Guessed letters: HAND SPORT CE
First set of results will be up in an hour or two.
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Happy birthday Rich.
Let the buttering up begin!
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Mile Marker Zero is The King.
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You don't say.
(https://i.postimg.cc/t7FKsZPY/20190824-230825.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7FKsZPY)
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Casiopea - Galactic Funk
Mile Marker Zero is either 2001 or 2020
Alison
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Casiopea - Galactic Funk
Congrats on correctly guessing your own song. :P
Here's the full hangmang:
Evermind: The Reticent – The Decision
TAC: Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry?
Clortho: Marah in the Mainsail – Bone Crown
Kattelox: Casiopea – Galactic Funk
Train: Keor – Petrichor
Seneca: Phoebe Bridgers – Funeral
BIZKIT: The Pineapple Thief – White Mist
Tomi: Baroness – Chlorine & Wine
Nekov: North Atlantic Oscillation – Expert with Altimeter
Sacul: Slowdive – Alison
Romdrums: In the Presence of Wolves – Man of the Times
Stadler: The Cult – Soul Asylum
Luoto: Maraton – Blood Music
Cyril: Actor | Observer – Dilettante
Elite: Major Parkinson – Madeleine Crumbles
Puppies: Spirit Adrift – Angel and Abyss
Jingle: Mystery – How Do You Feel?
King: Mile Marker Zero – 2001
First 5 survivors and 3 eliminations coming right up. Sorry to say that it's not been the best performance from the fogeys...
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. Sorry to say that it's not been the best performance from the fogeys...
No surprise there. I didn't expect to last very long in this roulette..
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Prelim results, part one
SAFE FROM EARLY ON:
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Seneca
Phoebe Bridgers – Funeral (from Stranger in the Alps, 2017)
First impression: Beautifully emotive, with a sonic richness I didn't expect in the opening of the song.
Final opinion: I don’t usually have a lot to say about individual songs, but I feel I’m going to want to say quite a bit here. I loved it on first listen (though it wasn’t my immediate favourite) and it just got even better with every listen. Musically, it’s beautiful and delicate. Sonically, it has a wonderful and surprising depth in the range of sounds used throughout - folky violins, subtle electronic rhythms later on. But it’s the lyrics that really elevate it. There seems to be a generation of millennial artists (women mostly) who write about sadness in a really engaging, powerful way that I’ve not seen before. I read a comment about the album this is from (which I’ve not heard yet), which said that it’s not about wallowing, but moving through it. This song definitely doesn’t wallow, and it doesn’t try to suggest answers either. It just examines sadness and sorrow with curiosity. While very different in tone, in this way it reminds me of the TV show Fleabag, written and produced by (and starring) her almost-namesake Phoebe Waller-Bridge, a sitcom about sadness that’s funny and sometimes absurd, but also reflective and extremely moving. This song spoke to me on a level I can’t fully explain, so I’ll stop trying and instead just say thank you, and welcome to my roulette!
Survivor
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Clortho
Marah in the Mainsail – Bone Crown (from Bone Crown, 2017)
First impression: This is a lot darker than I was expecting. It’s really cool and I already can't wait to hear the album.
Final opinion: Yeah, I absolutely love this and did so right from the very first listen, when it was my immediate favourite (which only later got overtaken by Funeral). I don’t know if you hit a sweet spot for me by luck or by a perceptive examination of my tastes, but this dark, cinematic folk is right up my alley. The lyrics are a little ridiculous at the start, but as the song gets more intense (musically and lyrically) it becomes clear this is from a concept album that’s probably actually quite dark and allegorical. And I’m really excited to hear it.
Survivor
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Katt
Casiopea – Galactic Funk (from Asian Dreamer, 1994)
First impression: This sounds like a jazz cover of Japanese video game music. Is it corny or awesome though?
Final opinion: The answer, of course, is that it’s awesome (well, ok it’s a bit corny too - the two aren’t mutually exclusive), the first impression was just worded to sew doubt. There aren’t many jazz fusion artists I particularly like as it’s often quite indulgent, meandering and/or simply inaccessible. Even my favourites, Return to Forever, had some real duds alongside their great stuff. This is only one song of course, but it’s just SO. MUCH. FUN. Very cool playing, but never overly flashy. Jazzy and intricate, but also extremely melodic. And yeah in some of the sounds and melodies, there are real hints of music from 90s Japanese video games, but that’s no bad thing.
Survivor
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Nekov
North Atlantic Oscillation – Expert with Altimeter (from Fog Electric, 2012)
First impression: Takes a while to get going, but it's a lovely song that hits an extremely niche soft spot of mine.
Final opinion: Welcome back, former champion. So that extremely niche soft spot of mine is Scottish rock and indie singers whose accent is noticeable when they sing. My wife and all her family is Scottish, and most Scottish accents, when spoken softly, I just find really lovely. Obviously the music has to be good too, but I’ve no doubt that me being such a big fan of Biffy Clyro and Frightened Rabbit is helped by the accents. As for the song itself, it’s fantastic. The start is a little slow but it’s completely fine once you know what’s coming. Once it gets going, it’s gorgeous, warm, and the sound ebbs and flows in a way that feels very fitting of the band’s name. Lovely stuff.
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Train
Keor – Petrichor (from Petrichor, 2018)
First impression: Takes even longer to get going, but boy when it does it has some really exciting stuff.
Final opinion: Welcome back, current champion! I have to admit that on first listen, I wasn’t too sure about this in the first few minutes. The Steven Wilson vibe you mentioned is undeniable, and the start of the song is very cool, but in an unusual almost esoteric way. Odd suspended chords and no obvious hooks. After three and a half minutes I was wondering if it was like that all the way through, but then the dark, intense, Opeth-esque riffs kick in and suddenly the whole dimension of the song has changed. There are more surprises and great touches too - I like the way those riffs come back in a more melodic fashion later on, and there are also strong hints of Devin Towsnend towards the end. This really is exciting, dynamic stuff.
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YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE:
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TAC
Idle Hands – Dragon, Why Do You Cry? (from Mana, 2019)
First impression: Pretty fun song despite being quite moody. Nice guitar work. Not sure I find it very exciting though.
Final opinion: Sadly this song didn’t grow on me at all, in fact if anything I lost interest. I do quite like the way it merges metal tendencies with the moody yet upbeat stylings of traditional goth rock. The latter has just never been a style that’s particularly interested me, and the vocals aren’t really my cup of tea (especially in some of the cheesier moments, like the countdown). I still dig the guitar work though, which is the highlight of the song for me.
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Jingle
Mystery – How Do You Feel? (from Lies and Butterflies, 2018)
First impression: I've heard this artist before, and once again on paper they sound good but the music just isn't grabbing me (so far).
Final opinion: Yep, this hasn’t really changed my opinion of Mystery at all. It was pretty brave to send them after a previous album of theirs got eliminated from the prelim of my last roulette. Like that album, this song just sounds like mid-tier Rush. It’s not bad by any means, far from it. All of the components are good, it has a nice vibe, the performances are solid (the guitar and drums in particular, especially in the solo towards the end) and this time the production is pretty strong. It’s perfectly pleasant each time I listen to it. There just isn’t really anything about it that makes me want to listen to it again.
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Stadler
The Cult – Soul Asylum (from Sonic Temple, 1989)
First impression: Pretty much the sort of thing I’d expect you to send. It’s nice enough, but it’s not really doing much for me.
Final opinion: This has actually grown on me a little. The general 80s metal vibe of the song is cool, and it has some nice nuances as the song develops that stand out more with repeat listens. I’m guessing Spotify has a remaster as the sound is very nice too - punchy and surprisingly modern sounding. But I still stand by my initial feeling that it’s just not very exciting. The tempo is incredibly plodding and the whole first half of the song just lacks any kind of drive or energy. You seem determined to only send me music from the 70s and 80s, which was a hit the first time with Rainbow, but has been a series of misses since.
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Age discrimination!!!
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Age discrimination!!!
Hey, it's not my fault Stadler insists on only sending me 70s and 80s music, Jingle can't keep away from middle-of-the-road prog, and you seem to use a random number generator (or possibly a dart board and a blindfold) to choose what to send me. :P
EDIT: I'm going to miss your blindfolded-darts approach by the way, it produced some real gems last time.
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Thanos just snapped three good people out of this roulette. But I'm safe! Lord, it's a miracle! Now after that writeup I KNOW I'm getting eliminated with the full record :lol
Galactic Funk is a super fun song and that's exactly why I sent it. An instrumental track has to have some kind of memorable hook to come back to, and GF has that, but I also think the rest of the playing is super tasty. There's actually a live video of them playing it on YouTube that I enjoy just slightly more because you can see how freaking talented they are and how much fun they're having while playing it.
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Now after that writeup I KNOW I'm getting eliminated with the full record :lol
To be clear, every survivor is safe until round 5.
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Now after that writeup I KNOW I'm getting eliminated with the full record :lol
To be clear, every survivor is safe until round 5.
Oh! Fudge yeah then. :metal
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Age discrimination!!!
Hey, it's not my fault Stadler insists on only sending me 70s and 80s music, Jingle can't keep away from middle-of-the-road prog, and you seem to use a random number generator (or possibly a dart board and a blindfold) to choose what to send me. :P
EDIT: I'm going to miss your blindfolded-darts approach by the way, it produced some real gems last time.
Well, it's really because I have no idea, obviously.
I am not upset or complaining, please don't in any way take it that way.. :) :)
But I just listened to a couple of the survivors. Oh boy.. :lol
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:lol It's cool I know, I was just bantering back.
And yeah, tastes!
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TAC, if you got something bad to say about Galactic Funk, you better funk on right out this thread! :lol
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That wasn't one of the ones I checked.
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That wasn't one of the ones I checked.
Well why the hell not?! :lol
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Well, because it said it was funk, and that's its own thing. I'll check it and get back to you.
EDIT: So funky!
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Unsurprising. I can't help you if you think that Mystery is MOR prog :P ;). And I still fail to comprehend how one can rate Frost* high, but then consider Darwin's Radio to be middle of the road. But as I always say ... TASTES!
As soon as I saw the list of albums you put in the Top 10 for 2019 thread, I knew I was doomed - even if there was any appeal from Mystery. We are clearly not a match if my #2 song of the year is MOR for your ears. It's all good though. Onwards and upwards for the rest of ya!
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Really liked all the songs that made it. Keor is an album I need to buy asap.
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Unsurprising. I can't help you if you think that Mystery is MOR prog :P ;). And I still fail to comprehend how one can rate Frost* high, but then consider Darwin's Radio to be middle of the road. But as I always say ... TASTES!
Indeed, and in my case at least (and many other people) my tastes aren't anchored around genres and not even really around styles either. Frost and DR play in the same genre in a similar style, but the things that excite me about Frost aren't really present in DR. It's as simple as that, really.
As soon as I saw the list of albums you put in the Top 10 for 2019 thread, I knew I was doomed - even if there was any appeal from Mystery. We are clearly not a match if my #2 song of the year is MOR for your ears.
I'm not sure it's that straightforward. Cyril and I have huge differences in our tastes and almost nothing in common in our top 10s, but I've won his last two roulettes and he's come 2nd and 3rd in my last two. There's definitely plenty of overlap between my tastes and yours, which you hit well last time with Abime and Alithia. Same with Tim sending me Euphoreon and Kaelling (and to some extent Hyperomm). For me, roulettes aren't about sending your favourite stuff, but instead trying to figure out what you think the host will like most.
TL;DR: I still love you guys. :heart
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Crap, I'm out :lol
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For me, roulettes aren't about sending your favourite stuff, but instead trying to figure out what you think the host will like most.
Well, I'm 50/50 on that statement. I've approached roulettes both ways. I try and use roulettes mostly to get to know people through music.
It's not always about winning, but it's more about participating back and forth. It's one of the reasons I don't like elimination roulettes (not directing this at you Ariich). But once I'm out, I'm out.
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For me, roulettes aren't about sending your favourite stuff, but instead trying to figure out what you think the host will like most.
Well, I'm 50/50 on that statement. I've approached roulettes both ways. I try and use roulettes mostly to get to know people through music.
It's not always about winning, but it's more about participating back and forth.
I too think it's 50/50. I'd never send something that I didn't love, just on the hopes that it would match up with the hosts tastes. For the way I play, it's an even blend of both. And the having fun part too. Hell, if it was JUST about discovering new music, then the AI algorithms at Spotify, last.fm, YT, Apple can do just as good a job at recommending new music to try ... maybe even better.
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I generally try to introduce people to new stuff in roulettes unless they specify that they're looking for something particular from the contestants, themed or not. Variety is the spice of life. Plus, if I don't really have a good grasp on their musical taste, I'll just send blindly until I start to get somewhere. I've sent everything from Benny Goodman to Swedish black metal to Enya to rap to country etc. At least to me that's the most fun thing about roulettes. Especially when people don't expect a certain kind of music from you.
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If I’m not safe, you won’t be safe either.
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Dragon, why do you cry? is still the best song I got in my lates roulette, sad to see TAC out because of it :/
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If I’m not safe, you won’t be safe either.
:lol
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Dragon, why do you cry? is still the best song I got in my lates roulette, sad to see TAC out because of it :/
Thanks Tomi. I thought it was definitely getting through this round, especially considering what did.. ;D
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Am I the only old fogey left?
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I'm a fogey.
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Am I the only old fogey left?
Tokenism
[ˈtōkəˌnizəm]
NOUN
the practice of making only a perfunctory or symbolic effort to do a particular thing, especially by recruiting a small number of people from underrepresented groups in order to give the appearance of sexual or racial equality within a workforce.
"the use of gay supporting characters is mere tokenism"
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I truly thought I was in the undecided category but I am happy to see you enjoyed the song. I didn't know you had a thing for Scottish accents and I don't think that I can appeal to that any further :lol. Hopefully you will enjoy the rest of the album just as much
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ah coulda been a contenda
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:corn
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For me, roulettes aren't about sending your favourite stuff, but instead trying to figure out what you think the host will like most.
Well, I'm 50/50 on that statement. I've approached roulettes both ways. I try and use roulettes mostly to get to know people through music.
It's not always about winning, but it's more about participating back and forth. It's one of the reasons I don't like elimination roulettes (not directing this at you Ariich). But once I'm out, I'm out.
Yeah for sure, I tried round-by-round elimination in my first album roulette but didn't really like it. The only reason I still have some form of elimination (prelim, and then in the latter stages) is to keep things manageable for me during album roulettes. I think if I was doing a song roulette, I've have as many participants as wanted to play, and keep them all in for the whole thing. Might do that at some point, but this prelim has shown me how hard I find it to rate and rank single songs.
For me, roulettes aren't about sending your favourite stuff, but instead trying to figure out what you think the host will like most.
Well, I'm 50/50 on that statement. I've approached roulettes both ways. I try and use roulettes mostly to get to know people through music.
It's not always about winning, but it's more about participating back and forth.
I too think it's 50/50. I'd never send something that I didn't love, just on the hopes that it would match up with the hosts tastes. For the way I play, it's an even blend of both. And the having fun part too.
Oh absolutely, when I participate in a roulette, my list of options is only artists that I've rated 4 stars or above. I just mean what I pick from that list I try and mostly tailor to the individual. Still doesn't always work though, of course.
Hell, if it was JUST about discovering new music, then the AI algorithms at Spotify, last.fm, YT, Apple can do just as good a job at recommending new music to try ... maybe even better.
I'm inclined to disagree quite strongly. I've tried those sorts of things and the hit rate has been lower than anyone who has participated in my last couple of roulettes.
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Being annoyed with Spotify suggesting me things that I don't actually like is one of the reasons I started doing roulettes actually. It's weird. Sometimes they nail my 'favorite artists' and then they pick others that I have no interest in as 'favorites.' It's weird.
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For me, roulettes aren't about sending your favourite stuff, but instead trying to figure out what you think the host will like most.
Well, I'm 50/50 on that statement. I've approached roulettes both ways. I try and use roulettes mostly to get to know people through music.
It's not always about winning, but it's more about participating back and forth. It's one of the reasons I don't like elimination roulettes (not directing this at you Ariich). But once I'm out, I'm out.
I'm with TAC: first and foremost, it's the people. Then it's sharing music that I like that I think maybe got overlooked or short-shifted to see if there is common ground. Yeah, the Cult is known as an "80's band", but if all you know is "Love Removal Machine", you don't know The Cult. That album - Sonic Temple - has eleven songs and I think only one doesn't really measure up.
I'm sure I could send stuff I don't know or don't like in order to curry favor, but that's not how I approach this (and my results prove that out, I'm sure! :tup) but first and foremost it has to be a song/album that means something to me, to see if I can make a bridge.
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I'm a fogey.
Never knew v. How old are you?
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I'm a fogey.
Never knew v. How old are you?
Not as old as you!
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Turned 50 in May.
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And don't forget, Katt survived and musically speaking he's basically a fogey too. :P
I think I might have made the final decisions, but god this is hard. I like too many of these songs too much and find it really hard to judge how much I might like the full albums. So hopefully results later this evening.
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Turned 50 in May.
So Tim's age. I'm 51.
I'm a fogey.
Never knew v. How old are you?
Not as old as you!
You sound like your 80 though. Lol
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For me, roulettes aren't about sending your favourite stuff, but instead trying to figure out what you think the host will like most.
Well, I'm 50/50 on that statement. I've approached roulettes both ways. I try and use roulettes mostly to get to know people through music.
It's not always about winning, but it's more about participating back and forth. It's one of the reasons I don't like elimination roulettes (not directing this at you Ariich). But once I'm out, I'm out.
I'm with TAC: first and foremost, it's the people. Then it's sharing music that I like that I think maybe got overlooked or short-shifted to see if there is common ground.
You know, I really like the way you both think about roulettes. I definitely value those aspects of roulettes, but I do also put a lot of focus on music discovery. Which does still feel the right priority for me and I'm loving this current roulette already, but your comments do make me think of some of things I might miss. I think I might design a future roulette to shift the focus, like a song roulette with no eliminations and just for fun and exploration, e.g. decade-specific rounds.
Right, decisions are made. Just need to do write ups and then will post results.
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Prelim results, part 2 of 2
Part 1 here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2580315#msg2580315
THE FINAL FIVE:
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Luoto
Maraton – Blood Music (from Meta, 2019)
First impression: Immediately enjoyable, dark and energetic.
Final opinion: I didn’t put this in the safe category because, although I loved it on first listen, listens 2 and 3 I felt less sure. There have definitely been bands who play a sort of poppy hard rock with prog stylings where I’ve really liked them at first and then ended up finding their stuff too samey. As I’ve said before, I find it hard to make judgements based on a single song, but it was just something that made me hesitate. But ultimately, I can only go with how much I’m enjoying these songs, and so happy to say this quickly became safe. It’s got a great, dark vibe, and I dig the vocals. Look forward to hearing the album.
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Evermind
The Reticent – The Decision (from On the Eve of a Goodbye, 2016)
First impression: This is evidently from a concept album. I like it, but I'm not sure how well it works out of context.
Final opinion: I did like this a lot from my first listen, and I considered it likely to survive. I just found it hard to commit because both musically and lyrically it feels very much part of a narrative that I didn’t know, and so it took a bit longer to form a proper view on it. It’s a really solid song though - like if Opeth went rock-opera. The music is really good, and there seems to be a real emotional sincerity to the storytelling even though I only have a partial idea of what it’s about. The climax at the end is particularly immersive.
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Cyril
Actor | Observer – Dilettante (from Pareidolia, 2018)
First impression: Solid example of exactly the sort of thing I'd expect you to send. I do wonder if you've played it too safe here though.
Final opinion: Oh look, post-hardcore. I liked it right from the start, but it didn’t excite me initially as I wasn’t sure it was offering me anything special. It’s a definite grower though, the chorus in particular is really solid once I’d heard it a couple of times, and the atmospheric stuff in the second half of the song provides some really nice contrast in the dynamics. I’d also highlight the vocalist who may not have the most unique style but he delivers it really, really well and helps give the music the right amount of energy.
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Puppies
Spirit Adrift – Angel and Abyss (from Divided by Darkness, 2019)
First impression: Enjoyable modern version of an otherwise dated style. Not sure about the vocals so far.
Final opinion: Ok let’s get this out of the way. I just cannot get over how much this sounds like what bands like Metallica and Maiden were doing in the 80s. Like, musically there’s not one thing here that those bands weren’t doing 30+ years ago. It does have a nice modern production though, really punchy and deep. And despite being so completely derivative, it’s really, really good for what it is. I don’t see it becoming an all time favourite or anything, but I’ve enjoyed it more and more with every listen and I’m really curious to hear the album and try and get more of a feel for their style. And regarding the vocals, that Ozzy-styling isn’t entirely my cup of tea but it can work really well in the right context (like early Sabbath) and actually it works fine here.
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Tomi
Baroness – Chlorine & Wine (from Purple, 2015)
First impression: Cool song, but possibly held back by the production.
Final opinion: You mentioned the production being weird, but you needn’t have because it was one of the first things I noticed. :lol It did bother me at first, and I thought it might be the reason for elimination. But the song itself is great. Really catchy hooks, great guitar flourishes that keep getting stuck in my head, and just a ton of charm. I can see the Mastodon similarity you mentioned, and I agree that it’s a bit warmer and more emotional than a lot of their stuff - kind of Alter Bridge overtones at times. After getting used to the song, the production doesn’t bother me so much, and actually it’s only really on earphones that I find it especially noticeable - in the car and on my computer, it sounds fine. So congrats on making it through!
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THE DIFFICULT ELIMINATIONS:
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Sacul
Slowdive – Alison (from Souvlaki, 1993)
First impression: Warm and pleasant... but that might be it. Don’t really remember anything else about it.
Final opinion: So I do actually like this quite a bit, which just shows how much I like the songs ranked above it. It has a real warmth to it, and there’s something about the sounds and production that feel of its time and reminiscent of my teenage years. The main gap for me is the vocals - I find both his voice and the melodies really quite boring, which can be a sticking point for me in a lot of genres and that definitely includes shoegaze. The song grew on me and did become a contender briefly, but in the end I just prefer the other ones.
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Romdrums
In the Presence of Wolves – Man of the Times (from Thalassas, 2014)
First impression: There’s loads to like here but some of the vocals grated me a bit, which could be a sticking point.
Final opinion: Another example of strong music being let down by the vocals, and even then only by some of the vocals. The music here is really, really good all the way through. It’s intricate but not overly flashy, surprising and well-performed. And for a lot of the song the vocals are good too - kind of unusual and exciting and they fit the music well. But as the song goes on there are some vocal moments that really, really annoy me to the point of no longer enjoying the song. Firstly there’s the “and it’s a sign” bits, which the delivery of just feels really out of place. I’d probably get past that, but then there’s a big climax around 6 minutes where the singing is just so out of tune. I’m still really interested to check out the album, but this bothered me too much to survive.
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Elite
Major Parkinson – Madeleine Crumbles (from Blackbox, 2017)
First impression: Great vibe, but after one listen I'm not sure the song has enough of a focal point.
Final opinion: This is some nice prog pop. Kind of dark and quirky, but also bouncy and cinematic. Great use of strings really give the song quite a unique vibe. I’m not sure I was quite right to say it had no focal point, but I can see why I felt that way on first listen. The melodies are pleasant, but a bit in the background and not especially engaging. This was a contender for survival earlier on, but ultimately it just doesn’t grab me enough compared with other songs I received.
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King
Mile Marker Zero – 2001 (from The Fifth Row, 2018)
First impression: Nice prog, but it didn’t make a big immediate impression on me.
Final opinion: This is one of two songs that were really, really hard to eliminate. It’s really fun, energetic prog that, while it didn’t grab me much on my first listen or two, quickly grew on me. The chorus in particular is really catchy, and the way the guitars and synths weave throughout is pretty enjoyable. I don’t have anything bad to say about the song, it ultimately just came down to not feeling as excited by it as the other contenders.
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BIZKIT
The Pineapple Thief – White Mist (from Dissolution, 2018)
First impression: I've heard this artist before, but this definitely sounds more interesting, if still a little lacking in wow factor.
Final opinion: Of all the songs I’ve had to eliminate, this was the hardest and came closest to surviving. As you know, I’ve heard some Pineapple Thief before, but never rated them above 3.5 stars. I like their music, it’s really pleasant, sincere prog, but I did always find them a little bit PT-lite. This is no different, but a bit more exciting because of Gavin Harrison’s really fantastic drumming which adds so much to everything he plays in although doesn’t exactly make the PT comparison less valid. It’s a lovely song with great build up. I’m not sure I like it any less than some of the songs that survived, but I had to make a decision. Ultimately, it just came down to feeling more excited about checking out the full albums of other submissions that this one. I’m definitely going to be giving this a listen, and I’m really grateful for you prompting me to do so.
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ROUND 1
That full list of survivors then, congrats you’re now in from rounds 1-5!
Seneca
Clortho
Katt
Nekov
Train
Luoto
Evermind
Cyril
Puppies
Tomi
Per the OP, the expectation for Round 1 is that it’s the full album from Round 0. I really liked all 10 songs (and even some of the songs I had to eliminate) and am really keen to check out all 10 albums. I did say there’d be the option to select something else, and I’m a man of my word. From my perspective, there’s no reason at all for any of you to change your minds. But if after seeing the results and write-ups you feel you’d like to send something else instead, please let me know ASAP explaining why. For now I’m going to start listening to the albums.
And don’t forget the sidekick rule. Batman, find your Robin!
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Awesome I made it through! I'll be sticking with my album, no need to change for round 1.
Too bad Evermind didn't get eliminated so I could have him for my sidekick :biggrin:
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Too bad Evermind didn't get eliminated so I could have him for my sidekick :biggrin:
I did briefly consider it could be safe to eliminate you (to help me make some decisions) as you could join with Ruslan. :lol But I quickly decided I should be fair and rank just based on the songs and how interested I was in hearing the albums.
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i refuse to change my mind, you're getting one of the best albums of last year and you can deal with that
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I didn’t put this in the safe category because, although I loved it on first listen, listens 2 and 3 I felt less sure. There have definitely been bands who play a sort of poppy hard rock with prog stylings where I’ve really liked them at first and then ended up finding their stuff too samey.
I wouldn't say it was particularly risky to send this but it's one of the more accessible songs, yet the core of their sound is still there. Glad that I'm through, looking forward to your thoughts on it :) It's also a Discover Weekly find of mine; these days Spotify mostly recommends artists I either already know or stuff that doesn't interest me, but occasionally it throws gems at me.
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Well, that sucks :lol:
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That Baroness' album has really weird ("bad") production and some other songs suffer from it more than Chlorine & Wine but I think it's great album and won't send something else
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ariich, there's a catch with my album. That specific recording of Galactic Funk is from Asian Dreamer, which is 2 CDs. So in accordance with the rules I think you should listen to disc 2, which has Galactic Funk on it.
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If I’m not safe, you won’t be safe either.
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ariich, there's a catch with my album. That specific recording of Galactic Funk is from Asian Dreamer, which is 2 CDs. So in accordance with the rules I think you should listen to disc 2, which has Galactic Funk on it.
tbh you should be disqualified for sending a song off an album that's ineligible by the ruleset :neverusethis:
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Awe man. I was hoping give you 5 albums. Rich, still check that album out. Thanks for having me.
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ariich, there's a catch with my album. That specific recording of Galactic Funk is from Asian Dreamer, which is 2 CDs. So in accordance with the rules I think you should listen to disc 2, which has Galactic Funk on it.
tbh you should be disqualified for sending a song off an album that's ineligible by the ruleset :neverusethis:
Length: No maximum or minimum length. In general, I have no particular preference for longer or shorter albums, though albums that don't have much variety of tone or style tend to be better if they're not too long IMO. And on the flipside, an EP of just three short songs probably won’t have much impact unless they’re really good.
I mean I guess he can listen to both discs if he wants to but I thought it would be acceptable to just go with one disc to be fair
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Awe man. I was hoping give you 5 albums. Rich, still check that album out. Thanks for having me.
You can be my robin if you'd like. I remember you doing pretty well on my last unfinished roulette so I think we have a lot of music in common.
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Awe man. I was hoping give you 5 albums. Rich, still check that album out. Thanks for having me.
You can be my robin if you'd like. I remember you doing pretty well on my last unfinished roulette so I think we have a lot of music in common.
You bet.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wtxQZH9p/robin.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtxQZH9p)
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ariich, there's a catch with my album. That specific recording of Galactic Funk is from Asian Dreamer, which is 2 CDs. So in accordance with the rules I think you should listen to disc 2, which has Galactic Funk on it.
tbh you should be disqualified for sending a song off an album that's ineligible by the ruleset :neverusethis:
Length: No maximum or minimum length. In general, I have no particular preference for longer or shorter albums, though albums that don't have much variety of tone or style tend to be better if they're not too long IMO. And on the flipside, an EP of just three short songs probably won’t have much impact unless they’re really good.
I mean I guess he can listen to both discs if he wants to but I thought it would be acceptable to just go with one disc to be fair
Yeah, no maximum length so 2 disc albums are eligible.
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I'll stick with The Reticent for this round, it's a great album.
Good to see Puppies also made it, now we can kick each other's asses I guess.
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Awesome!! Yeah that one cool riff is very very Opeth, I love it. I’ll stick to this album for round 1, maybe interesting to know that i was very close to picking the song Terence, curious to see how much you like that one and whether that would’ve put me through round 0.
We declared it in the thread already but Elite is my teammate. Elite, send me some albums djude!
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Also let me just say that I find it hilarious that I'm in with The Reticent and Tim is eliminated. :lol
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Also let me just say that I find it hilarious that I'm in with The Reticent and Tim is eliminated. :lol
I love that you're channelling your inner jingle - win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat.
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We declared it in the thread already but Elite is my teammate. Elite, send me some albums djude!
Are you sure? :lol
My track-record in ariich's roulettes is dubious at best
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Tim/Stads... wanna team up?
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We declared it in the thread already but Elite is my teammate. Elite, send me some albums djude!
Are you sure? :lol
My track-record in ariich's roulettes is dubious at best
You were a semi finalist in my first album roulette, but yeah your record hasn't been quite so strong since. :P This was a much more interesting submission this time which only just missed out, but I'll definitely still be checking the album out.
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Tim/Stads... wanna team up?
If anybody wants three sidekicks, I won't stop that. I guess that'd make you Robin, Nightwing and... Batgirl?
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So now that I'm on my own for the first five rounds... Lucas, do you want to win or possibly lose this with me?
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So now that I'm on my own for the first five rounds... Lucas, do you want to win or possibly lose this with me?
Yes I would love to.
:neverusethis:
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I mean... sure, let's do it, why the hell not. :biggrin:
I'll shoot you a PM on Tuesday.
Sacul, if you also want in, you're welcome. Let's do a roulette threesome I guess.
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Let's do a threesome I guess.
Wouldn’t be the first time :)
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Damn I'm actually excited as hell for this with the sidekick rule. I hope Sacul will also say yes. It's going to be awesome.
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My track record in roulettes is on par with dogshit so I’m not sure how much help I’ll be :lol
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I'm sure we'll nail it, man.
(https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/dont-worry-guys-i-have-a-plan-he-has-left-the-game-fail.jpg)
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:lol
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We declared it in the thread already but Elite is my teammate. Elite, send me some albums djude!
Are you sure? :lol
My track-record in ariich's roulettes is dubious at best
F-course! I’ll send you a PM
If someone else wants to join the Groove Train, feel free to join! We can make it like a team battle :D
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I'm picking Parama as my sidekick
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Parama is gone though
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I'm picking Parama as my sidekick
I'm glad you and Parama finally met. You guys have tons in common :biggrin:
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Damn I'm actually excited as hell for this with the sidekick rule. I hope Sacul will also say yes. It's going to be awesome.
Well damn why not :P
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Okay so I'll send you both a PM on Tuesday, let's do this :)
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Awesome, that's 4 out of 8 possible sidekicks signed up already. OP updated accordingly.
EDIT: I really hope at least some partnerships make it past round 5 because I think collaborate concept albums could be really cool. In fact, I'll say now that even partnerships that don't make it past round 5, do feel free to make a concept album anyway and I'll still listen and rate!
EDIT 2: Actually, if people would like, I'd be very happy to swap rounds so that round 5 is concept album and the final is greatest hits, so that everyone has the chance to collaborate and create a concept album? Thoughts?
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makes it way less climactic at the end, tbh
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EDIT 2: Actually, if people would like, I'd be very happy to swap rounds so that round 5 is concept album and the final is greatest hits, so that everyone has the chance to collaborate and create a concept album? Thoughts?
Everyone having a sidekick isn't guaranteed, and I prefer the current round setup overall.
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I agree with Luoto, also I suck at concept albums and would like to try to get to greatest hits before I fail :lol
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yeah i have zero interest in getting a sidekick tbh. i want full creative control, i've been able to make some pretty good stuff in the past that way :P
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I didn't mean to imply that everyone would have to collaborate or have a sidekick, only that those who do would all get the chance for a concept album. But yeah fair enough, I agree the current round structure is better as the big effort goes into the very final round. I'll keep it as it is.
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Awe man. I was hoping give you 5 albums. Rich, still check that album out. Thanks for having me.
You can be my robin if you'd like. I remember you doing pretty well on my last unfinished roulette so I think we have a lot of music in common.
You bet.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wtxQZH9p/robin.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtxQZH9p)
:lol Awesome! I'll PM you during the week so that we can discuss some ideas.
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Ya'll Batmen can have your Robins. Superman only needs himself. :hat
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Ya'll Batmen can have your Robins. Superman only needs himself. :hat
Superman needs Lex Luthor.
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Ya'll Batmen can have your Robins. Superman only needs himself. :hat
Superman needs Lex Luthor.
Lex Luthor is not Superman's sidekick! That's it, you're my Lex Luthor now. :lol
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Ya'll Batmen can have your Robins. Superman only needs himself. :hat
Superman needs Lex Luthor.
Lex Luthor is not Superman's sidekick! That's it, you're my Lex Luthor now. :lol
Just what I was hoping for.... :adami: :yeahbaby:
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Ya'll Batmen can have your Robins. Superman only needs himself. :hat
Superman needs Lex Luthor.
Lex Luthor is not Superman's sidekick! That's it, you're my Lex Luthor now. :lol
Brilliant, this is now officially a Heroes & Villains roulette. People who don't want sidekicks/stooges are good to play solo characters, and we get some nice competitions/grudges going on. People are welcome to choose their own, or I'll assign them at the end of round 1 if not.
OP participants list updated accordingly. Batman & Robin need an enemy.
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What about Rich? Who is he in this?
Mister Mxyzptlk?
Brainiac?
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What about Rich? Who is he in this?
Mister Mxyzptlk?
Brainiac?
I wiped out nearly half the contestants in a single round, so obviously I'm Thanos.
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I love it! :rollin
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Perfection! :lol
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Although that does mean I'm currently the only Marvel character. :lol
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If only I had a clearer picture of your avatar.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q6HDfrWJ/20190901-164455.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6HDfrWJ)
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i'm squirrel girl
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If only I had a clearer picture of your avatar.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q6HDfrWJ/20190901-164455.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6HDfrWJ)
:lol
I was thinking of something like that. I'll get on it.
EDIT: Sorted:
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_182_1567372438.jpeg)
i'm squirrel girl
Excellent. She's Marvel, and has been an Avenger.
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We are Thomas the tank engine and the Fat Controller or *insert any other character from that show*
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Lucas and Lucas, who shall we play as?
We are Thomas the tank engine and the Fat Controller or *insert any other character from that show*
Let's see how well you'll do in this, and by this I mean let's observe the train. :neverusethis:
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Thomas the Tank Engine is a legit entry, not just because of his excellent cameo in Ant-Man, but more importantly because Marvel published his comics/magazines from 1987 to 1999.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Thomas_the_Tank_Engine_%26_Friends_Vol_1
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I've never watched anything Marvel, so it's definitely up to my teammates to pick characters.
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I've never watched anything Marvel, so it's definitely up to my teammates to pick characters.
Or I can select.
You can trust me.
Definitely.
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I've never watched anything Marvel, so it's definitely up to my teammates to pick characters.
Or I can select.
You can trust me.
Definitely.
Sure Thanos, whatever you say Thanos.... ::)
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If jingle wasn't out he would definitely be Loki
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He still can be if he partners with someone as Thor.
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I'm Garfield if anyone wants to be my Odie(n)
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Profile pic updated until I leave this roulette
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Profile pic updated until I leave this roulette
Indeed!
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Lucas and Lucas, who shall we play as?
Does it have to be a Marvel character? :P. I want to be Sandman, Luke can be Death, and you Desire :neverusethis:
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Lucas and Lucas, who shall we play as?
Does it have to be a Marvel character? :P. I want to be Sandman, Luke can be Death, and you Desire :neverusethis:
Sandman is by far my favourite graphic novel series, so that's settled (although you need to be called Dream - also, Ruslan is welcome to choose another of the Endless although I like him as Desire too). Great choice.
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Lucas and Lucas, who shall we play as?
Does it have to be a Marvel character? :P. I want to be Sandman, Luke can be Death, and you Desire :neverusethis:
If we go with that, I'll need a quick PM rundown on this because I've no idea who these are.
Damn, I sound like TAC. :lol
Edit: Sandman is by far my favourite graphic novel series, so that's settled (although you need to be called Dream - also, Ruslan is welcome to choose another of the Endless although I like him as Desire too). Great choice.
Oh alright, this gives me enough to Google it I suppose.
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Lucas and Lucas, who shall we play as?
Does it have to be a Marvel character? :P. I want to be Sandman, Luke can be Death, and you Desire :neverusethis:
If we go with that, I'll need a quick PM rundown on this because I've no idea who these are.
Damn, I sound like TAC. :lol
Edit: Sandman is by far my favourite graphic novel series, so that's settled (although you need to be called Dream - also, Ruslan is welcome to choose another of the Endless although I like him as Desire too). Great choice.
Oh alright, this gives me enough to Google it I suppose.
Superb Neil Gaiman storytelling with great visual imagery from various artists.
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ariich, I'm leaving tonight for PPUSA but I hope you saw my comment about listening to disc 2 of that Casiopea record. I'll be checking in occasionally throughout the week.
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ariich, I'm leaving tonight for PPUSA but I hope you saw my comment about listening to disc 2 of that Casiopea record. I'll be checking in occasionally throughout the week.
Oh yeah, I did reply but it might have got lost within all the activity:
Yeah, no maximum length so 2 disc albums are eligible.
So I'm just checking out the whole album.
Hope Prog Power is awesome, a couple of cracking bands there this year. How long are you away for? I expect round 1 to finish probably at the weekend, depending on how much listening I can get in and how long it takes me to do write ups.
Anyway, I was able to get lots of listening in last night and today, so you lucky lot will be getting first impressions shortly.
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Gulp. 2 discs of jazz fusion - 1 disc might be enough, I predict 2 full discs might actually harm me in the end. Looking forward to the results regardless. The fest runs from Wednesday through Saturday and I'll be on the road all Sunday, but I'll still have plenty of time to pick out a song, I think, without holding the round up.
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Gulp. 2 discs of jazz fusion - 1 disc might be enough, I predict 2 full discs might actually harm me in the end.
Well you're the one who sent a song from a 2-disc jazz fusion album so. :P
Looking forward to the results regardless. The fest runs from Wednesday through Saturday and I'll be on the road all Sunday, but I'll still have plenty of time to pick out a song, I think, without holding the round up.
Cool yeah don't worry, even I finish the round at the weekend, if you don't submit (an album remember, not a song) for another day or two i.e. Monday or Tuesday that'll be absolutely fine. There are always some people who send straight away so I should have things to get on with listening to.
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Yeah, that should be fine with me. Very curious to see how Casiopea resonates with you in the context of a full double disc album. That album in particular has mostly rearrangements of older songs, for example, Galactic Funk was actually released 11 years before that record, I think, on another one. I'll be brainstorming stuff to send all week.
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Yeah, that should be fine with me. Very curious to see how Casiopea resonates with you in the context of a full double disc album. That album in particular has mostly rearrangements of older songs, for example, Galactic Funk was actually released 11 years before that record, I think, on another one. I'll be brainstorming stuff to send all week.
Ah ok, that's good to know. I generally like to briefly read up on an album or artist after a listen or two in these roulettes to see if there's any interesting or useful context to be aware of. Seems in this case, it's mostly re-recordings because the band had a new line-up for the album, so it was a sort of compilation.
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I know you're getting flooded with music, but seriously, I highly suggest you take a few minutes just to watch this video of them playing Galactic Funk in the mid-80s. Just watching them play is so fun, keep an eye out for when they start dancing and the keyboardist is watching them as he solos (about 3:00 in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKgjOCuW_MU
Okay now I gotta finish packing and take a cold shower after my car troubles. Good luck this round fellas :2metal:
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I feel hangman might be somewhat pointless this round as nobody has changed their submission, but here are first impressions. I'll also try and provide some updates over the next couple of days on how well the albums are settling in with me compared with the prelim songs.
Round 1 first impressions
1. Stylistically, this is broadly what I expected from the prelim although there some surprises too, including some more intense stuff. I like it and there are some really good songs, but it didn’t sound as interesting, at least on first listen.
2. The prelim song was good, but I don’t think it’s the best one you could have sent. Wasn’t 100% sure about the opener, but there’s some absolutely superb, punchy and sometimes surprisingly epic music on here.
3. The full album definitely feels more balanced, which I think is probably a good thing although it just means I need to readjust my expectations for further listens. But I really like what I’m hearing and there’s a nice range of influences.
4. Excluding the song I already know, the rest of the album seemed to start a bit… unconvincing maybe? I really wasn’t feeling it at all at the start, but damn if there isn't some great stuff later on.
5. Hmm, this will take a few listens I think. There's lots in here that really appealed to me about the prelim song, but a lot of it also feels less immediate and I haven't got under any of the intricacies, so I'm not yet sure how I feel about the album as a whole.
6. I enjoyed this a lot. I did wonder if I might find it a little on the samey side, but as the album goes on there’s some nice variety and different moods brought in. Hopefully knowing that will help me enjoy it even more on further listens.
7. The aspects of the prelim that I was less keen on definitely apply throughout the album, but actually seem to work fine on the whole. Or at least didn’t really bother me. Sounds like a strong collection of songs.
8. A bit different to what I was expecting from the prelim song, but this is lovely stuff. Consistent tone throughout, but good variety of styles and ideas, and a great overall sound.
9. This is pretty exciting stuff. Really well-crafted, and with some cool additional influences that weren't really present in the prelim song.
10. This is all pretty good, but nothing really stood out to me (apart from the song I already know). Possible I just need to get to know the other songs better, but this felt like it might be a bit run of the mill.
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Several of those could fit mine, mostly positive which is nice.
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no clue part 2: scenes from :metal
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Several of those could fit mine, mostly positive which is nice.
I think this round is probably going to be generally reasonably positive, particularly because it was the top 10 songs from the prelim that got here. So potential for lots of bonus points. But ranking points are still going to be 4-10 which is really going to test my new relative scoring approach!
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Absolutely no idea which one is mine.
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Absolutely no idea which one is mine.
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:lol Yeah probably a product of generally using different descriptors to the prelim, and focusing on comparisons with the prelim songs, because otherwise it probably would have been too obvious. But seems it's gone too far the other way. Ah well, it'll be back to normal for round 2.
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well if i had to make some guesses :P
1 is me
5 is Phoebe Bridgers
7 is Baroness
9 is The Reticent
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>"no clue"
>2 out of 4 guesses correct
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and i can't even fathom a guess on the rest :tup
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Popcorn time :corn
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Tim/Stads... wanna team up?
I'm in if it's not too late........
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Profile pic updated until I leave this roulette
Since I am Batman*, we ARE the same person.
(It's a running joke with my daughter that I am Batman, and has been for about five years or so. About six months ago, I did one of those "what celebrity do YOU look like?" things and I got Ben Affleck, and Ben Affleck played Batman, so... you can imagine what dinner time is like in the Stadler house.)
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Well, that pic is from a funny show where there is Batman convention with Batmans from all around the world. Thus, in the context of my avatar, we can both be Batman ;)
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Lucas and Lucas, who shall we play as?
Does it have to be a Marvel character? :P. I want to be Sandman, Luke can be Death, and you Desire :neverusethis:
If we go with that, I'll need a quick PM rundown on this because I've no idea who these are.
Damn, I sound like TAC. :lol
Edit: Sandman is by far my favourite graphic novel series, so that's settled (although you need to be called Dream - also, Ruslan is welcome to choose another of the Endless although I like him as Desire too). Great choice.
Oh alright, this gives me enough to Google it I suppose.
Superb Neil Gaiman storytelling with great visual imagery from various artists.
Alright, I'm fine with Desire but with what's going on right now maybe Luke shouldn't be Death? I'll leave it to him I guess.
Also I'll be absent for the next whole week travelling to Netherlands (Ayreon show), so we'll try to send our albums in advance somewhat.
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YA insensitive AF
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Damn man, genuinely didn't know about that until I saw Ruslan's post and would guess that's the case for Sacul too. So sorry about that, and for your loss, hope you're doing OK. Will change the OP right away. Also to say feel free to get involved only as much as you want or don't want, no pressure at all.
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YA insensitive AF
Ohfuck I totally forgot about your situation when I thought of your character, I'm sorry :facepalm:.
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Guys guys it’s fine :)
It’s a fitting name because people call me “the grief guy” since I like doing work with loss. So really it’s fine!
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I'll let you pick a character name for me.
Also, I have no idea which first impression is for the album I sent.
I've only done 2 roulettes so far, (both run by Stadler) and my general strategy has always been to send something I like and not what I think the roulette runner would like. This strategy hasn't been the best for winning the roulettes, but a couple of the songs I sent were among the best received.
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Guys guys it’s fine :)
It’s a fitting name because people call me “the grief guy” since I like doing work with loss. So really it’s fine!
I changed it to Destiny for now because he's badass. But you should choose. If you don't know the Sandman comics: wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endless_(comics)).
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I'll let you pick a character name for me.
I'm voting Peter Venkman. I did research and there is a Marvel Comic
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What do you think this is, some kind of democracy?
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The only president i respect is Sarah Mclachlan
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Mini update. 2nd listens all done and making good progress on 3rd listens (work and commutes this week working out well for lots of listening). Benefit of the prelim cull is that this is a really strong set of albums for round 1. Likely to be a lot of 8s and therefore bonus points. I don't see anything being rated below 7.5 this round. The tough thing is going to be ranking them as that's the key driver of points scoring in this roulette.
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:corn :corn
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:corn :corn :corn
:corn :corn
:corn :corn :corn
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I *think* I've settled on ratings for each album. So should just need to decide on ranking albums with the same rating to determine scores, and turn my notes into writeups. So expect results tomorrow.
In the meantime I might post some hints later today.
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:corn :corn :corn :corn
:corn :corn :corn
:corn :corn
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I'll get the vacuum to pick up all this popcorn on the floor Batman.
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Ok in the order the prelim results were posted in (only loosely ranked in groupings), here's whether I like each album more than, the same as or not as much as the prelim song from it.
v Phoebe Bridgers
= Marah in the Mainsail
= Casiopea
^ North Atlantic Oscillation
= Keor
= Maraton
v The Reticent
^ Actor | Observer
= Spirit Adrift
^ Baroness
Worth noting that this is one of the strongest rounds I've ever had in a roulette, helped I'm sure by prioritising the songs I liked most from the prelim. Your challenge is to keep up this quality throughout.
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Mmm delicious caret
Also agreed on Phoebe Bridgers, that song and Scott Street are the only two really great ones but I liked the album as a whole anyways
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Nice
I'll get the vacuum to pick up all this popcorn on the floor Batman.
:lol
Actually, that's Alfreds job. You should be listening to some music
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I'm in the Batmobile blasting the tunes now. Only time I get to sit in the driver's seat.
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Considering you liked the song I sent a lot, I'll take the "=".
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That's unfortunate.
Your challenge is to keep up this quality throughout.
I don't think that's going to happen. :lol
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i can promise one more really good album after this but then that's it you're getting nothing but crap from round 3 onward
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you're getting nothing but crap from round 3 onward
Awesome, can't wait. :metal
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ROUND 1 RESULTS
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Clortho
Marah in the Mainsail – Bone Crown (2017)
First impression: The full album definitely feels more balanced, which I think is probably a good thing although it just means I need to readjust my expectations for further listens. But I really like what I’m hearing and there’s a nice range of influences.
Final opinion: The title track was my initial favourite in the prelim, and it may have been overtaken, but for the full albums this is comfortably my number 1 and a 9/10 right off the bat. It’s fantastic. The album's core sound is a bit like early Mumford & Sons (which I love), but grander, bleaker and with some of the theatricality of The Dear Hunter (which I love even more). Narratively and musically, the title track was clearly quite intense. A lot of the rest of the album is lighter in tone and more folksy, and it makes it a really nicely paced album that accentuates the darker moments. This album is just consistently great all the way through.
Rating: 9/10
Score: 10 + 2 bonus = 12 points
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Nekov
North Atlantic Oscillation – Fog Electric (2012)
First impression: A bit different to what I was expecting from the prelim song, but this is lovely stuff. Consistent tone throughout, but good variety of styles and ideas, and a great overall sound.
Final opinion: It wasn't too obvious from Expert with Altimeter alone, but the band's core sound has a lot in common with Porcupine Tree and Anathema, particularly their late 90s to early 00s periods. They do it really well though and it never sounds derivative to me. They also incorporate more recent stylistic ideas from those bands and others including nice use of electronic sounds. Empire Waste I especially like, and has a great Radiohead vibe. The album is full of gorgeous music and nice variety of tone - if it was all as pretty as the prelim song it might have got boring. But the rich soundscapes that I loved in the prelim song are very much present throughout. There are one or two relative dud moments (the whole of Interval in particular is not very interesting) but overall this is a great album.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 9 + 1 bonus = 10 points
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Train
Keor – Petrichor (2018)
First impression: This is pretty exciting stuff. Really well-crafted, and with some cool additional influences that weren't really present in the prelim song.
Final opinion: Yeah this is a really great album overall, slightly held back by the last song. Let's start with the great. The SW/Opeth/Devy sounds that were up front in the title track are present throughout to varying degrees, but Keor has brought them together in a pretty unique and interesting way, and also brought in a lot of other ideas. Nest of Evil is more in Haken-esque prog metal territory, with shades of DT in the guitar solo. Snivel by the Pond is wonderfully atmospheric and fairytale-like, sounding like a collaboration between Martin Grech and Danny Elfman. Terence returns to the core sound which helps bring coherence to the album, and it's another great song with a fantastic chorus. But the closer, Abyssal Bloom, unfortunately, just doesn't live up to the same quality. It's epic in style but the riffs are a bit boring and the vocal melodies arguably even more so. It's long as well, and so the album does end on a bit of a downer. If it had finished stronger, this probably would have been a 9/10.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 8.5 + 1 bonus = 9.5 points
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Cyril
Actor | Observer – Pareidolia (2018)
First impression: The prelim song was good, but I don’t think it’s the best one you could have sent. Wasn’t 100% sure about the opener, but there’s some absolutely superb, punchy and sometimes surprisingly epic music on here.
Final opinion: OK so I do get your choice of prelim song, which represents the album well. As a whole it’s all solid, but it's really strengthened by two songs in particular. I might have felt it a bit cold and angsty were it not for the amazing two-punch of Reuptake and In Your Ways in the middle. Reuptake isn't as heavy or shouty as some songs on the album but it feels angrier, like it's underpinned by a deep fury. In Your Ways is more sorrowful, starting delicate but building hugely to something quite intense and epic. As post-hardcore goes, these two songs are up there among some of the best stuff Thrice has produced, which is really saying something. There are other strong songs as well of course (the last few songs are really good), but those two lift the album from very good to excellent.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 8 + 1 bonus = 9 points
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Seneca
Phoebe Bridgers – Stranger in the Alps (2017)
First impression: Hmm, this will take a few listens I think. There's lots in here that really appealed to me about the prelim song, but a lot of it also feels less immediate and I haven't got under any of the intricacies, so I'm not yet sure how I feel about the album as a whole.
Final opinion: Funeral is probably still the best and most touching song, but the rest is very good too, and there are some other standouts as well such as Killer, Georgia and Would You Rather (though the sudden appearance of Connor Orberst's distinctive voice did catch me by surprise on first listen). Lyrically, the album is consistently excellent and most songs have everything I loved about her writing in Funeral - thoughtful and touching. Musically speaking, some songs are definitely a bit less interesting, although even the weaker ones are pretty good. Overall, a really moving album that I’ll definitely be adding to my collection.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 7.5 + 1 bonus = 8.5 points
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Tomi
Baroness – Purple (2015)
First impression: The aspects of the prelim that I was less keen on definitely apply throughout the album, but actually seem to work fine on the whole. Or at least didn’t really bother me. Sounds like a strong collection of songs.
Final opinion: I should start by saying that I'm still not very keen on the production, and I do think it holds the album back a little. But only a little, as it's still pretty great, and once I get settled into the album it doesn't bother me really. Almost every song has melodies and chord progressions that are really warm and engaging, and there are some cracking choruses. I guess I can sort of see your Mastodon comparison, but it's not that strong a link to me - I like Mastodon just as much but I find this quite a bit more tuneful. Very nice stuff.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 6.5 + 1 bonus = 7.5 points
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Luoto
Maraton – Meta (2019)
First impression: Stylistically, this is broadly what I expected from the prelim although there some surprises too, including some more intense stuff. I like it and there are some really good songs, but it didn’t sound as interesting, at least on first listen.
Final opinion: As you rightly pointed out, the album is richer and more intricate than the prelim song, though the tone and general style is very much along the same lines. The album starts on the more poppy side - the opener has a great groove and a strong Muse vibe, and Blood Music I wrote about for the prelim. After that, though, there's lots of cool rhythmic complexity from track 3 onwards, which ends up giving the music more of a Leprous vibe. Some tracks are definitely less interesting, but none are bad and some (like Altered State) are heavier and give the album a bit more variety. Some other highlights for me are the Body Double chorus and the moody vibe of Manifest Content which is perfectly accented by the 7/8 time signature.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 6 + 1 bonus = 7 points
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Katt
Casiopea – Asian Dreamer (1994)
First impression: I enjoyed this a lot. I did wonder if I might find it a little on the samey side, but as the album goes on there’s some nice variety and different moods brought in. Hopefully knowing that will help me enjoy it even more on further listens.
Final opinion: Really fun jazz fusion and I'm not sure why I've not heard these guys before. The album may be long, but as it's basically a compilation of re-recorded tracks, it works really well as an intro to the band. As I said in my first impression, I initially thought it might drag, but there's enough variety to keep it enjoyable right through to the end. Nice mix of guitar-driven fusion, some slightly more experimental stuff, and more traditional jazz that at times manages to achieve a pretty convincing big band jazz sound despite (as far as I can tell) not having any real horns.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 5.5 + 1 bonus = 6.5 points
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Evermind
The Reticent – On the Eve of a Goodbye (2016)
First impression: Excluding the song I already know, the rest of the album seemed to start a bit… unconvincing maybe? I really wasn’t feeling it at all at the start, but damn if there isn't some great stuff later on.
Final opinion: I really want to like this album more because there are some great songs on it, some powerful moments, and the nature of the album is quite intense and moving. But I find the quality quite mixed. It’s a really emotional album overall, but there are times where it feels a bit tonally inconsistent, which takes me out of the narrative. Now I’ve gotten to know it, the early songs are pretty decent but still don’t feel that convincing to me, and are the main culprits of that tonal inconsistency. The Girl Broken seems like a mix between upbeat Iron Maiden and brutal death growls and I struggle to get into it. The album gets much stronger from The Comprehension onwards and is mostly really good from there. The run from that through to The Apology is great, as is The Decision, and damn the climax in The Day After gives me goosebumps, it’s that heartbreaking.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 5 points
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Puppies
Spirit Adrift – Divided by Darkness (2019)
First impression: This is all pretty good, but nothing really stood out to me (apart from the song I already know). Possible I just need to get to know the other songs better, but this felt like it might be a bit run of the mill.
Final opinion: I went on a similar journey with this as I did with the prelim song, and definitely found it more enjoyable on further listens. Once I accepted that the band's general sound is quite derivative, the songs all grew on me and I find them very enjoyable. And actually there are some different ideas too - the opener is a bit more Dio style, the title track is Sabbath-esque, and Born Into Fire has much more of a stoner rock/Mastodon vibe. The last two tracks are more atmospheric, with some more modern sounding moments that work really well. So definitely a solid album overall but not quite enough to reach that coveted 8/10.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 4 points
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Scores after Round 1:
Clortho = 12.0
Nekov = 10.0
Train = 9.5
Cyril = 9.0
Seneca = 8.5
Tomi = 7.5
Luoto = 7.0
Katt = 6.5
Evermind = 5.0
Puppies = 4.0
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Off to a great start, I see. :lol
I asked Lucases to send me albums, but as I've got nothing so far, I guess Round 2 is something from me again, as I only have tomorrow to send something.
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Check your inbox ;)
Sorry I know it’s late so you should totally just pick the first one I sent. :metal
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By the way no rush to send round 2 immediately as round 1 ended up being quicker than expected. Let's say a deadline of Monday. Although if I can at least get some stuff sooner, I can make a start on listening.
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Nice! Not sure if it's good to start this strong since that means that I will likely disappoint you going forward :lol
I've already had some brainstorming with Robin and I've decided on the next album. It will be in your inbox in a couple of minutes. The shithead never returned the batmobile to the batcave last night. He's getting a beating reprimand today.
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All my robin has done for me is shit on my 2019 AOTY :metal
No we actually found a bit of common ground, I'm going to send a band that he suggested, but a different album by them as I think their album before that one is better.. so, kind of a collaborative effort? ;D But I'll send over the weekend cause I'm kinda busy and wanna give it a last listen
And nice, glad you liked the album. I think I mentioned it between round 0 and 1, but Terence would have been my #2 pick if I didn't send the title track, seems like that would have gone down well too. That chorus is so much fun! And agreed on the ending song kinda.. I used to have the same with the closer from [Album I'm not gonna mention cause I am totally thinking of still sending that] but my opinion on that one changed. But I see how it's a bit annoying to have such a dynamic and interesting album end on something that feels kinda stagnant/repetitive.
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All my robin has done for me is shit on my 2019 AOTY :metal
:lol Partnerships descending into a state of UK politics already. Remember it's always your call.
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All my robin has done for me is shit on my 2019 AOTY :metal
:lol Partnerships descending into a state of UK politics already. Remember it's always your call.
Oh, I don't think we reach that level of a shitshow in here :lol
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True.. I am very unsure about this one though. It's super long and haven't found many people who are nearly as hyped about the album as I am. But I was the same with Odyssey to the West, and everyone would probably have adviced against that album but I still did it and I won.. so in short: you never know with you and your tastes! :D
I'm definitely trying to send a lot of different styles, like last time. :corn
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All my robin has done for me is shit on my 2019 AOTY :metal
:lol Partnerships descending into a state of UK politics already. Remember it's always your call.
Oh, I don't think we reach that level of a shitshow in here :lol
I think it would be rather impressive if you did. The only thing comparatively awful is US politics.
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Oof :facepalm:
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Oof :facepalm:
Shame we didn't team up, we would've done so well. :lol
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:lol
Don't forget that in an average round, 7.5 would be around mid-table.
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All my robin has done for me is shit on my 2019 AOTY :metal
:lol Partnerships descending into a state of UK politics already. Remember it's always your call.
Oh, I don't think we reach that level of a shitshow in here :lol
I think it would be rather impressive if you did. The only thing comparatively awful is US politics.
Isn't all politics awful? :lol
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That's nice score, I wouldn't give it more than 8/10 myself :tup
Will send soon, I'm torn between completely different genres :huh:
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what are the bonus points for i must've missed that :lol
also nice. sending some crap now
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Whoo Hoo! Only downhill from here.
Marah in the Mainsail have another album and an ep that are worth checking out if you liked Bone Crown. They've since changed their name to Coyote Kid and are putting out an album in October. Same sound, same band, new name.
Trying to figure out what to send next. I'll come up with something hopefully sometime today.
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what are the bonus points for i must've missed that :lol
- Scoring: Again unlike my last two roulettes, scoring this time will be relative:
- The round winner will get 10 points, and the last placed will get 4 points. Everyone else will score in between, which should give a roughly even spread but I’ll flex based on my relative views on each.
- In addition, there is 1 bonus point for every 8/10 rating, 2 for every 9/10 rating, and 3 for the impossibly unlikely event that I give an album 10/10.
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Marah in the Mainsail have another album and an ep that are worth checking out if you liked Bone Crown. They've since changed their name to Coyote Kid and are putting out an album in October. Same sound, same band, new name.
I hate when bands do that. Is it the same band? Is it now a new band? Anyway yeah will definitely check out their other stuff. Almost all of my music discovery for about six months leading up to this roulette was properly delving into other albums by bands that scored 8/10 or higher in my last two roulettes (and some of the 7.5s) so I'll certainly be doing that again after this one.
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Oh and I forgot to say, but I've assigned comic book characters to the remaining players.
Seneca sent me something pretty moody in the first round and seems to like some pretty maudlin music, so he's Rorschach.
Luoto is Moomintroll, as the Moomins were created by a Finnish illustrator.
Clortho sent me something kind of dark and quirky in the first round, and has a creature in his avatar, so he's Venom.
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Luoto is Moomintroll, as the Moomins were created by a Finnish illustrator.
Perfect :lol
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If anyone wanted to know why I'm Garfield: it was Monday and I was at work, not wanting to be there so :P
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deep down, we're all a little bit garfield
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/garfield/images/5/51/1993-06-01.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/600?cb=20181202074003)
here's the strip published on my birthday and boy howdy that's a mood
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If anyone wanted to know why I'm Garfield: it was Monday and I was at work, not wanting to be there so :P
It's a good reason. :lol But Garfield is great anyway. And nice avatar too.
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And also lasagna :lol
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Bummer, Hybrid Theory is banned >:( "I WANNA RUN AWAY, AND NEVER SAY GOODBYE"
Edit - Sent something even whinier for round 2 :biggrin: :corn
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ROUND 1 RESULTS
Cyril
Actor | Observer – Pareidolia (2018)
First impression: The prelim song was good, but I don’t think it’s the best one you could have sent. Wasn’t 100% sure about the opener, but there’s some absolutely superb, punchy and sometimes surprisingly epic music on here.
Final opinion: OK so I do get your choice of prelim song, which represents the album well. As a whole it’s all solid, but it's really strengthened by two songs in particular. I might have felt it a bit cold and angsty were it not for the amazing two-punch of Reuptake and In Your Ways in the middle. Reuptake isn't as heavy or shouty as some songs on the album but it feels angrier, like it's underpinned by a deep fury. In Your Ways is more sorrowful, starting delicate but building hugely to something quite intense and epic. As post-hardcore goes, these two songs are up there among some of the best stuff Thrice has produced, which is really saying something. There are other strong songs as well of course (the last few songs are really good), but those two lift the album from very good to excellent.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 8 + 1 bonus = 9 points
oh and some comments about your writeup - In Your Wars is definitely the best song on the album, no question, but it's mellower so I don't like using it to represent the album :lol I really like Reuptake too though I wouldn't call it a favorite (Low and Beholden, Dilettante, and Pareidolia are all better, at least, but I mean, it's a friggin' great album overall). I honestly don't dislike any song and really only feel Well Being is a bit weaker than the rest (it's also sandwiched between two runs of three great tracks in a row, which doesn't help). Anyways it was my 2nd Place for AOTY last year and I don't regret putting it there :metal (#1 was Poly-Math which I think I sent you as a bonus last time, so :lol)
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Seems like you and I are in agreement over which are the better half of the songs and which are the weaker half, just differ in which we think are the best among them (apart from the #1). Also, I realise they're still a reasonably young band, so lots of potential to mature even more.
Anyway, 6 albums out of 10 in for round 2 already, which is great. Listening has commenced.
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Sent! Ready for another low score.
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Sent
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Seems like you and I are in agreement over which are the better half of the songs and which are the weaker half, just differ in which we think are the best among them (apart from the #1). Also, I realise they're still a reasonably young band, so lots of potential to mature even more.
yeah they have a previous album and i've listened to it a few times but it's a bit underwhelming. pretty much lacks good hooks entirely and it's only like a half hour long, bleh
anyways i expect to tank this round because the album i sent is historically one other people here haven't been as into but whatever :metal
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Ok, we're just waiting on Superman, but I know he's away at PPUSA so all good as there's no immediate rush. I've started my first listens - good stuff so far - and will put hangman up once Katt sends me something.
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just pick a random kings of leon album
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Guys I'm really sorry for the delay, y'all know I'm usually very quick to send. I will seriously try to come up with something before I get home tonight but I'm on the road. Bear with me please.
Edit: I see it's been a while so... okay. Winging it.
Edit 2: sent but not confident, I just really really really love it.
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Just to say that I didn't want Katt to feel rushed, and I did previously say the deadline was Monday, so we agreed to treat what he sent me as a placeholder for now (I'll leave it to last for my listening) and he can send a replacement by tomorrow morning.
And then HANGMAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
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No replacement submission from Katt, so let's get ready to hang man!
?: _____ _____ – _____ _____ ____
?: ________ ______ – _____ ______
?: _____ ______ ____ – ____ ______ __________
?: _____ _______ – ___ __ __ _ _____ _____
?: __________ – __ ___ ________ ____
?: _______ – ___ _____'_ ____
?: ____ _____ – ____________
?: ___ ______ – _ ______ _____ __ ____
?: ____________ – ________
?: _ ________ – _____
Guessed letters:
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gimme the N for Nuts
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Cyril: A Novelist - Folie
:P
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Cyril: A Novelist - Folie
:lol This could finish pretty quickly.
?: _____ _____ – _a___ N____ ____
?: ________ ___n__ – _a___ ______
?: _____ __a__n ____ – _a__ ___an_ _a________
?: __a__ An__a__ – ___ __ __ A ___an ___n_
?: ________a_ – __ ___ Na______ __a_
?: A__a_a_ – ___ _____'_ _a__
?: __a_ _____ – __a_________
?: __n ___a__ – _ ______ _____ __ ____
?: ____________ – _n______
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NA
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:lol This could finish pretty quickly.
So far that was the only obvious one, aside from my own of course ;D
Gimme A
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Updated above.
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Give me an S
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?: _____ ___s_ – _a___ N____ ___s
?: ___ss___ ___n_s – _a_s_ _____s
?: _____ __a__n ____ – _as_ ___ans _a______s_
?: __ass An__a_s – ___ __ __ A ___an ___n_
?: ________a_ – __ ___ Na____ss __a_
?: A__a_a_ – ___ _____'s _a__
?: __a_ ___s_ – __as________
?: __n ___a__ – _ ______ _____ __ ____
?: ____________ – _n______
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAS
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Glass Animals
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Primordial - To the Nameless Dead
Seneca maybe
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Pressure Points: False Lights
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I'm glad I sent something because I simply don't have time to send something else today hahaha. Fingers crossed. Show me P for NAPS
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?: P____ ___s_ – _a___ N____ ___s
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
?: _____ __a__n __p_ – _as_ ___ans _a______s_
?: Glass Animals – ___ __ __ A ___an ___n_
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
?: Appa_a_ – ___ _____'s _a__
?: __a_ ___s_ – __as___p____
?: __n ___a__ – _ ______ _____ __ ____
?: ____________ – _n______
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPS
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E
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Finally, some good sleep
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A🅱️🅱️arat- The Devil’s Walk
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Gimme T
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?: P__e_ __est – _a___ Ne_e_ __es
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
?: ____e _ea_en _ept – _ast __eans _a______se
?: Glass Animals – ___ T_ _e A ___an _e_n_
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
?: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
?: _ea_ ___st – __aste_p_e_e
?: _en ___a__ – _ ____et __e_e _e _e_e
?: _e__t___t___ – _nt_t_e_
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPSTE
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Power Quest
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Give me an R
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Alright, fine, I'll take the D
Power Quest is Katt
While Heaven Wept sent by Ev
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Give me an R
Thank you for following through with the set up!
Alright, fine, I'll take the D
The D is always yours.
Katt: Power Quest – _a___ Ne_er D_es
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
Evermind ft. Lucases: While Heaven Wept – _ast __eans _a__r___se
?: Glass Animals – ___ T_ _e A ___an _e_n_
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
?: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
?: _ear ___st – __asterp_e_e
?: _en ___ard – _ __r_et __ere _e _ere
?: _e__t___t___ – _nt_t_ed
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPSTER D
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Ben Howard
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While Heaven Wept sent by Ev
Vast Oceans Lachrymose
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Magic Never Dies
How to Be A Vegan: Beans
Bear Ghost - Masterpiece
A Market Where We Were
Untitled
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First listens done so here are some first impressions. Generally another solid round, some cracking stuff, overall I don't think it's as great as the first round.
Round 2 first impressions
1. Warm and groovy. Kinda quirky but also accessible. I like it, though it feels like there might be something a bit lacking.
2. The playing and production are fantastic, but musically a lot of this left me feeling pretty cold. There are some great moments though so it might grow on me more.
3. I thought I knew what this was going to be like from the first song but it went in some other directions and had some nice variety. The production doesn't seem to give it the impact it needs, which might hold it back, but it was good still.
4. Nice album, but not sure it’s as interesting as your last submission. The vocals in particular don’t seem very engaging, and very little stood out to me.
5. Perfectly pleasant, but didn’t hold my attention at all. Not sure if that's a feature of my mood or the music just not engaging me, so won't pre-judge.
6. This is a little cheesy, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Too early to say whether it's enjoyable enough to warrant the cheese factor.
7. Also a little cheesy at times but there's lots that I like here, especially instrumentally. Some really gorgeous moments. Not wholly sold on the vocals so far.
8. I like the general style and appreciate the variety and experimentation, but on first listen there was almost nothing hooking me in.
9. The sound is kind of raw, but it’s also absolutely huge. Combined with quite a lovely harmonic approach, this was really immersive right from the start and made a big first impression on me.
10. Energetic and slightly mad. Not enough roulette submissions involve kazoos.
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How to Be A Vegan: Beans
I'm almost tempted to just say yes because that's a great title for an album. :lol
Katt: Power Quest – Magic Never Dies
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
Evermind ft. Lucases: While Heaven Wept – Vast Oceans Lachrymose
?: Glass Animals – ___ T_ _e A ___an _e_n_
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
?: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
?: Bear Ghost – __asterp_e_e
?: Ben Howard – I Forget Where We Were
?: _e__t___t___ – Untitled
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPSTER D
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It's actually probably I Forget Where We Were now that I noticed the A is already guessed but whatever, at least I nailed the beans one
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I'm exhausted from a long couple of days and I can't stop chuckling at that. :lol
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Mine could be #9 or it could be one of the ones you didn't like who knows
9 could also be primordial so it probably is
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One of the cheesy ones has to be Powerquest, never heard their music but the whole band and the album name sound cheesy as hell. :lol
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Can confirm that at least the title track of that album is extremely cheesy.
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It's also fucking great as per my top 50 thread. Very interested in ariich's full thoughts though :lol :corn
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Also I could be #10 except I don't think there are any kazoos just that the production on the woodwinds is a bit crap. Which is literally the only flaw I can point to on the album
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First listens done so here are some first impressions. Generally another solid round, some cracking stuff, overall I don't think it's as great as the first round.
Round 2 first impressions
1. Warm and groovy. Kinda quirky but also accessible. I like it, though it feels like there might be something a bit lacking.
3. I thought I knew what this was going to be like from the first song but it went in some other directions and had some nice variety. The production doesn't seem to give it the impact it needs, which might hold it back, but it was good still.
4. Nice album, but not sure it’s as interesting as your last submission. The vocals in particular don’t seem very engaging, and very little stood out to me.
5. Perfectly pleasant, but didn’t hold my attention at all. Not sure if that's a feature of my mood or the music just not engaging me, so won't pre-judge.
8. I like the general style and appreciate the variety and experimentation, but on first listen there was almost nothing hooking me in.
Probably one of these
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10 is Blasterpiece :lol
I only know one other album with the kazoo and it’s not in this round. I don’t like my chances here by reading the impressions but I’m not certain
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10 is Blasterpiece :lol
I only know one other album with the kazoo and it’s not in this round.
Yep. :lol Figured I'd stick with doing one really specific first impression each round. Out of interest, what's the other album with kazoos?
Katt: Power Quest – Magic Never Dies
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
Evermind ft. Lucases: While Heaven Wept – Vast Oceans Lachrymose
?: Glass Animals – ___ T_ _e A ___an _e_n_
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
?: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
?: Bear Ghost – Blasterpiece
?: Ben Howard – I Forget Where We Were
?: _e__t___t___ – Untitled
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPSTER D
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God Himself by Atumatu, was released last month I believe. :)
It doesn't sound nearly as quirky though, it's very altered in the mix and doesn't sound as kazooey
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Didn't Between the Buried and Me use kazoos in one of their songs? I could swear I remember there being a kazoo somewhere....
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So, is this a thread about kazoos now? I had to google what it was and now I am curious to hear a song that has kazoos.
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I think the closest Biti Bam got to a kazoo is the cute gym whistle in Telos, it reappears but only in that section.
So, is this a thread about kazoos now? I had to google what it was and now I am curious to hear a song that has kazoos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvcQE_U2MJc#t=1m2s
By the way I didn't send Blasterpiece, but I love that album so kudos to whoever sent it!
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Apparently Seaside Rendezvous by Queen has a Kazoo
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Apparently Seaside Rendezvous by Queen has a Kazoo
Indeed it does! :metal
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I guess the kazoo discussion is a thread killer...
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Give me a K for Kazoo
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Give me C for :corn
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X for nobody sent X Japan
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Not sure those have helped you much. :lol
Katt: Power Quest – Magic Never Dies
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
Evermind ft. Lucases: While Heaven Wept – Vast Oceans Lachrymose
?: Glass Animals – H__ T_ _e A H__an _e_n_
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
?: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
?: Bear Ghost – Blasterpiece
?: Ben Howard – I Forget Where We Were
?: _e__th__t___ – Untitled
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPSTER DCKXH
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Give me H for Help
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Fine.
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How To Be a Human Being
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Perhaps an O will help
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Did Nekov send Apparat?
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All good.
Katt: Power Quest – Magic Never Dies
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
Evermind ft. Lucases: While Heaven Wept – Vast Oceans Lachrymose
?: Glass Animals – How To Be A Human Being
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
Nekov ft. King: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
?: Bear Ghost – Blasterpiece
?: Ben Howard – I Forget Where We Were
?: _e__tho_t_o_ – Untitled
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPSTER DOCK XH
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Bear Ghost is probably Train :gwii:
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Bend Howard is Seneca
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Bear Ghost is probably Train :gwii:
By the way I didn't send Blasterpiece, but I love that album so kudos to whoever sent it!
Katt: Power Quest – Magic Never Dies
?: Pressure Points – False Lights
Evermind ft. Lucases: While Heaven Wept – Vast Oceans Lachrymose
?: Glass Animals – How To Be A Human Being
?: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
Nekov ft. King: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
?: Bear Ghost – Blasterpiece
Seneca: Ben Howard – I Forget Where We Were
?: _e__tho_t_o_ – Untitled
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
Guessed letters: NAPSTER DOCK XH
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Apparently my reading comprehension has plummeted :blondemoment: :lolpalm:
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mewithoutYou
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oh damn i should've gotten that sooner :lol
i couldn't get too into that album tbh. it's too mellow for what i'm looking for but also not emotionally distraught enough. shrugs
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oh damn i should've gotten that sooner :lol
i couldn't get too into that album tbh. it's too mellow for what i'm looking for but also not emotionally distraught enough. shrugs
Hey, shut up! :P
In my case, it's just heavy and mellow enough and pretty emotional as well.
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the la dispute album from this year basically just does what they're trying to do but better, i guess
having that immediate comparison in mind when i listened to the album is probably the biggest reason i passed on it but it's not bad at all either :lol i rated two songs from it decently high in my last roulette, so
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the la dispute album from this year basically just does what they're trying to do but better, i guess
having that immediate comparison in mind when i listened to the album is probably the biggest reason i passed on it but it's not bad at all either :lol i rated two songs from it decently high in my last roulette, so
Didn't hear latest La Dispute yet, will do :tup
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Here's the finished hangman.
Katt: Power Quest – Magic Never Dies
Luoto: Pressure Points – False Lights
Evermind ft. Lucases: While Heaven Wept – Vast Oceans Lachrymose
Train ft. Elite: Glass Animals – How To Be A Human Being
Puppies: Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
Nekov ft. King: Apparat – The Devil's Walk
Clortho: Bear Ghost – Blasterpiece
Seneca: Ben Howard – I Forget Where We Were
Tomi: mewithoutYou – [Untitled]
Cyril: A Novelist – Folie
And here are some stats on how many albums are looking like they will or won't get 8/10 or higher.
2005-2010: 2 yes, 0 maybe, 1 no
2011-2015: 0 yes, 1 maybe, 2 no
2016-2019: 1 yes, 1 maybe, 2 no
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magic never dies but my chances of proceeding will
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magic never dies but my chances of proceeding will
EVERYONE PROCEEDS UNTIL ROUND 5 WHY DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS
EDIT: Unless you meant proceeding past round 5, in which case... yeah... :P
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Proud to be one of the 2 no's
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Crap
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magic never dies but my chances of proceeding will
EVERYONE PROCEEDS UNTIL ROUND 5 WHY DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS
EDIT: Unless you meant proceeding past round 5, in which case... yeah... :P
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT STOP YELLING AT ME :(
:lol
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magic never dies but my chances of proceeding will
EVERYONE PROCEEDS UNTIL ROUND 5 WHY DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS
EDIT: Unless you meant proceeding past round 5, in which case... yeah... :P
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT STOP YELLING AT ME :(
:lol
:bosk1:
:isyl:
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Well now this is interesting. Album ratings compared with Round 1:
v Clortho
v Nekov
v Train
v Cyril
v Seneca
v Tomi
v Luoto
v Katt
^ Evermind
^ Puppies
Not sure it gives much away in terms of rankings though. :lol It also makes it look the round sucked, but it didn't, it's solid still.
Just need to do write-ups so results should be tomorrow I think, or tonight if you're lucky.
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Leprous - Down
Leprous - Lower
Leprous - At the Bottom
anyways ur rong if you rate Folie lower than literally any other album in existence :neverusethis: but i'll take my 6.0
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Leprous - Down
Leprous - Lower
Leprous - At the Bottom
Leprous - Arse
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OSBERRRRVVEE ttt hE TRAAAAIIIiiNNNNNNNNNNN with a cockroach, and a cockroach
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but i'll take my 6.0
Nice that you're so optimistic about it.
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honestly the strategy i'm using for this roulette is going to result in me sending you an album that i legit think will score the lowest out of anything i've ever sent you, but that's the life we gotta live
i dunno i'm too bored of sending safe stuff lately
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honestly the strategy i'm using for this roulette is going to result in me sending you an album that i legit think will score the lowest out of anything i've ever sent you, but that's the life we gotta live
i dunno i'm too bored of sending safe stuff lately
But then some of the post-roulette stuff you sent me last time that you thought was "too risky" for the roulette itself I rated 8-8.5. Not necessarily a bad idea to try something different (unless it's El Drugstore).
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well, they should have a new album out soon... :corn
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I mean, I've never rated them 4 stars or higher so technically they're not banned.
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Yeah I knew I was getting into trouble sending Magic Never Dies and I don't expect it'll do so hot, but, hey. Circumstances. :lol I'll be more focused with the next one. Have mercy on Rolf, for I am the son of a shepherd
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Go Thomas the Tank Engine!!
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thinking about what to do for the greatest hits and i realized there's an artist in my library you'd probably like whose entire discography is, conveniently, just under 70 minutes long
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Is it a grindcore band with 5 albums?
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i specified an artist ariich would probably like for a reason
grindcore no listeno
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thinking about what to do for the greatest hits and i realized there's an artist in my library you'd probably like whose entire discography is, conveniently, just under 70 minutes long
:lol As long as it's from at least 3 separate albums (EPs?) then I guess that's within the rules!
Should be good to get results posted tonight, probably in the next hour if I can get these write-ups done. Scores are interesting - there are a couple of people fairly far ahead right now (though it can all change quickly of course) and then a lot of people close together.
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ROUND 2 RESULTS
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Puppies
Primordial – To the Nameless Dead (2007)
First impression: The sound is kind of raw, but it’s also absolutely huge. Combined with quite a lovely harmonic approach, this was really immersive right from the start and made a big first impression on me.
Final opinion: From bottom in one round to top in the next! This is wonderful stuff. The tone and style is very consistent throughout, and as a result the album maybe feels a little on the long side for me, but only slightly so it's a very minor issue. Apart from that, it's fantastic. I really love how big and immersive the sound is. And my comment about the harmonic approach related to how sorrowful it is, just beautiful at times, especially in combination with the big heavy aural onslaught. I did struggle a bit to decide between this and the second place album, but I ended up settling on this because although there's no individual element that sounds particularly original or unusual to me, overall it doesn't sound like anything else in my collection.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 10 + 1 bonus = 11 points
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Clortho
Bear Ghost – Blasterpiece (2016)
First impression: Energetic and slightly mad. Not enough roulette submissions involve kazoos.
Final opinion: This album is such a blast(erpiece). It's brilliantly entertaining, quirky, funky and slickly-performed. Reminds me quite a lot of Toehider in a number of ways. If anything, it's got more of a swagger and sense of fun than Toehider, and it rocks more consistently. Though what it doesn't have, from what I've gathered, is the same depth of lyrical content. But anyway it's a great album, and I like how as it goes on the songs do get a bit more serious and some of the later songs have a great feel to them. Top notch stuff, and that’s two hits out of two for you. How long can you keep this up?
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 9.5 + 1 bonus = 10.5 points
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Evermind ft. Lucases
While Heaven Wept – Vast Oceans Lachrymose (2009)
First impression: Also a little cheesy at times but there's lots that I like here, especially instrumentally. Some really gorgeous moments. Not wholly sold on the vocals so far.
Final opinion: So this is a good example of my first impression being fairly inaccurate. Overall it's not that cheesy actually, there are just a handful of moments that stood out to me on first listen (including when the vocals first come in) that probably skewed my initial view. Same with the vocals - there are parts I'm not into and some of the lyrics seem a bit eh, but he's a versatile and quite impressive singer, using a lot of different styles some of which suit him really well (especially his John Arch style stuff in To Wander the Void). What I was spot on about though was the gorgeous moments. Really beautiful harmonies in some of the instrumental sections of the sort you'd find in melodic death metal and which give the album a unique feel. Not mind blowing maybe, but overall it's excellent.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 8.5 + 1 bonus = 9.5 points
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Train ft. Elite
Glass Animals – How To Be A Human Being (2016)
First impression: Warm and groovy. Kinda quirky but also accessible. I like it, though it feels like there might be something a bit lacking.
Final opinion: Took a few listens to decide whether this deserved an 8/10 or not. I can’t put my finger on what it was I felt was lacking, just that as lovely as it is it never quite excites me. But music doesn’t always have to excite me, and now that I’ve gotten to know the album pretty well, it’s a lot of fun and has a really nice groove to it and some great hooks. It occasionally sounds like slightly middle-of-the-road pop, but mostly it’s pretty quirky and experimental. I particularly like the fun use of synths. I’ve liked it more with each listen and I expect that to continue.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 7.5 + 1 bonus = 8.5 points
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Luoto
Pressure Points – False Lights (2015)
First impression: I thought I knew what this was going to be like from the first song but it went in some other directions and had some nice variety. The production doesn't seem to give it the impact it needs, which might hold it back, but it was good still.
Final opinion: Actually it wasn't the whole first song, but the first few minutes that sounded like melodic death metal with some Pink Floyd mixed in. But in fact, while those elements are present throughout, the album as a whole has some quite varied prog. Solid stuff, if a little inconsistent to me. A lot of the production is good, especially in much of the instrumental and guitar solo sections, some of which sound great. But where it lacks punch is the vocals, which are often (though not always, oddly) quite quiet in the mix. The harsh vocals particularly sound a little thin and ineffective, and I think it holds back the album. It does have some great stuff though, especially in the second half - the last few minutes of Dance of Coincidence are a particular standout for me.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 7 points
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Cyril
A Novelist – Folie (2019)
First impression: The playing and production are fantastic, but musically a lot of this left me feeling pretty cold. There are some great moments though so it might grow on me more.
Final opinion: It’s a bit hard to articulate why I don’t like this album more, but I think ultimately it comes down to being too inconsistent. There is some really fantastic stuff: some really intense heavy moments, some grand and kind of immersive melodic bits, and just consistently excellent production and playing, particularly the guitarist. There’s also a fair amount of the album that’s solid enough: my first impression of finding it “cold” refers to a lot of this, where the music is sort of melodic but just not very exciting (I’ve found this with some stuff you’ve sent me in the past). And then some is… I don’t think bad is the right word, because it’s not bad at all, but off-putting maybe. In particular, the vocalist seems to only have one way of using harsh vocals, and it works great with some of the heavier music but at other times (like the bluesy prog bits of Tombeau or Acacia Crown) the music contrasts with the aggression in the vocals in a way that just doesn’t work for me.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6.5 points
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Katt
Power Quest – Magic Never Dies (2005)
First impression: This is a little cheesy, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Too early to say whether it's enjoyable enough to warrant the cheese factor.
Final opinion: I don’t think I’d say this is cheesier than some other stuff I listen to, but I don’t think I quite find it enjoyable enough to warrant it. Don’t get me wrong though, it’s still really solid and enjoyable power metal. It sounds like the lovechild of early Sonata Arctica and Bon Jovi, though with not quite as much charm as either. Overall I like it plenty, probably on a par with mid-tier Sonata. There are some very catchy tunes, the singer is extremely skilled if perhaps not the most exciting, and the lead guitarist is top-notch. Ultimately though, there’s nothing at all here that I can’t get from other music I listen to, and as a result I don’t find it exciting enough to really want to go back to it.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6 points
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Tomi
mewithoutYou – [Untitled] (2018)
First impression: Hmm, I like the general style and appreciate the variety and experimentation, but on first listen there was almost nothing hooking me in.
Final opinion: Feels like this has a lot of elements that I really like. I dig the overall style of the album with its blend of post-hardcore and more indie rock. I also enjoy how varied it is within that style, bringing in a number of other influences and moving between different tones and ideas. There are a number of places where it reminds me quite a lot of Brand New, though rarely as exciting as their best stuff. I think they do the slower and more somber stuff particularly well (like in Julia and Winter Solstice). But as good as everything is, it never really hits the right spot for me. The melodies and riffs aren’t especially memorable, and there’s never enough emotional impact to hook me in.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 5.5 points
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Seneca
Ben Howard – I Forget Where We Were (2014)
First impression: Nice album, but not sure it’s as interesting as your last submission. The vocals in particular don’t seem very engaging, and very little stood out to me.
Final opinion: Yeah this is nice for sure, very nice, but I’m not fully getting into it after a good few listens. There are some lovely songs - particularly ones like the opener and the title track which have a gentle, slightly bluesy vibe. I think those slower tunes suit his voice quite well too, he sounds really soulful in them. There are enough of those songs for me to enjoy the album pretty well, but the rest I just find a little boring. Pleasant, just not very interesting. And yeah his voice in the more upbeat tunes just doesn’t do it for me at all.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 4.5 points
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Nekov ft. King
Apparat – The Devil's Walk (2011)
First impression: Perfectly pleasant, but didn’t hold my attention at all. Not sure if that's a feature of my mood or the music just not engaging me, so won't pre-judge.
Final opinion: This is the archetypal 7/10 album for me, which is good but in roulette terms tends to be a pretty low score. There are no specific issues or faults with it at all, and I like it a fair bit. It’s extremely competent, well-produced electronica with a nice post-rock vibe and some cool moments (especially in Goodbye, which I genuinely love). Unfortunately, for the most part there’s just nothing that stands out as especially interesting. It’s really lovely background music, but I don’t see myself seeing it as anything more than that.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 4 points
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Scores after Round 2:
1. Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 = 22.5
2. Train ft. Elite = 9.5 + 8.5 = 18.0
3. Cyril = 9.0 + 6.5 = 15.5
4. Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 = 15.0
5. Evermind ft. Lucases = 5.0 + 9.5 = 14.5
6= Nekov ft. King = 10.0 + 4.0 = 14.0
6= Luoto = 7.0 + 7.0 = 14.0
8= Seneca = 8.5 + 4.5 = 13.0
8= Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 = 13.0
10. Katt = 6.5 + 6.0 = 12.5
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Ouch! Better than I expected but now I gotta make next round work to get out of last place. You'll get mine sometime tomorrow, I'm going to think hard about what to send.
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congrats on winning the roulette, clortho! :neverusethis:
sending real shortly here
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ariich, after seeing what i sent for round 3:
Wondering if I should have included Rule 6.
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Caveat: That was based only on the album length, I haven't heard a single note and have never heard of the artist. :lol
But yeah, Cyril taking risks.
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You guys may as well not hurry, because I won't be able to send until Monday.
Glad you liked the album, Rich.
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Just to make sure... how exactly does the rating and score work? What are the bonus points for?
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Just to make sure... how exactly does the rating and score work? What are the bonus points for?
what are the bonus points for i must've missed that :lol
- Scoring: Again unlike my last two roulettes, scoring this time will be relative:
- The round winner will get 10 points, and the last placed will get 4 points. Everyone else will score in between, which should give a roughly even spread but I’ll flex based on my relative views on each.
- In addition, there is 1 bonus point for every 8/10 rating, 2 for every 9/10 rating, and 3 for the impossibly unlikely event that I give an album 10/10.
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Yeah, I just looked in the OP as well. I was confused by the spread from 10 for highest to 4 for lowest and everything in between being seemingly random. What makes Tomi's 7/10 worth 5,5 points, while Nekiv's is just 4, for example?
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probably ariich liked it slightly more
they're all "ranked"
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probably ariich liked it slightly more
they're all "ranked"
Yeah it's a roughly even spread of ratings, basically with always 0.5 or 1 point between positions, and I just flex it depending on how much more/less I like each one. I don't really do ratings more detailed than the nearest 0.5.
EDIT: Or to put it another way, how dare you question the almighty Thanos!
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Well, OK then... I really thought you would enjoy that album a lot more. I think I'm going to check back on the roulette I won, see what happened there.
Will probably send something tomorrow or Sunday
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Now that is an epic come back! :20170401:
I suppose I should find something to send for round 3.
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Oh shit, it seems like I'm the biggest fan of that album in the world (or the only one :P ). I really need to step up my game.
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And sent :corn
And now the waiting game for Sacul begins :biggrin:
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Fair, I’m cool with that! I got into them super recently and really enjoy that album
Will send next one now!
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Sent something by one of my favorite songwriters ever.
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Kat sent Randy Newman :corn
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Kat sent Randy Newman :corn
welp
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puppies try to guess what i sent based on context clues posted in thread
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Parama sent either Midnight Odyssey or Spectral Lore
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correct
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Aaaand sent.
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Sent!
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In shocking developments, the only person we're waiting for is the one who has Sacul as a sidekick. :P
I'm joking of course, there's no rush. I've got plenty of music to check out so it's only hangman that's being held up.
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I'll send tomorrow as I promised. I've just got home and I'll probably just get all the stuff in my bags sorted out and then get some sleep.
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Sleep?! You need to get your priorities straight, sir.
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:tiredpanda:
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Sleep?! You need to get your priorities straight, sir.
:lol
Given how I only had four and a half hours of sleep last night between the Ayreon show, hanging out with Nick and Jennie, Adami and Elite, and my flight back, I'm fairly sure that for once I've got my priorities straight. :) I'm knackered right now.
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:lol
That sounds really awesome man. Like I said, no rush.
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Sent. I've no idea how my next submission will go. Hopefully I can hold onto the lead. Glad you've liked the album's I've sent so far.
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Sent.
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I think this is the first time I've ever had two correct guesses before we've even started hangman.
Katt: Randy Newman – ___ ____
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – ________ ____ ___ ______ ______
?: _____ _____ _____ – __________ _________
?: __________ – _____
?: ____ _____ – ____ __ _______
?: ___ ________ – ________
?: ___ ______ – ___
?: ________ – ________
?: ____ – _______
?: ______ _____ – _____ __ ___ ___ _____
Guessed letters:
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Give me the D :eyebrows:
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There's more than enough D for everyone. :eyebrows:
Katt: Randy Newman – __d ____
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – ________ ____ ___ ______ ______
?: D____ _____ D____ – __________ _________
?: _________d – D____
?: ____ ___d_ – ____ __ ___d___
?: ___ ________ – ___d____
?: __d ______ – ___
?: _______d – ________
?: D___ – _______
?: ______ _____ – _____ __ ___ __d _____
Guessed letters: D
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Randy Newman is Bad Love
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T
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Randy Newman is Bad Love
Confirmed - and it's a damn good album too, apart from one egregiously bad song early on.
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Midnight Odyssey is Funerals From the Astral Sphere
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Oh and Dvne - Asheran
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Dance Gavin Dance - Artificial Selection
i want the T
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i want the T
Well you can't have it because Luoto asked first.
Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
?: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
?: ___t_____d – D____
?: ____ ___d_ – ____ __ ___d___
?: T__ __t_____ – ___d____
?: __d ______ – ___
?: _______d – ________
?: Dvne – Asheran
?: ______ ___t_ – _____ __ T__ __d _____
Guessed letters: DT
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Then give me the R for RIP Luoto (who I have killed and stolen the T from)
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Rolf wants P, Ed boy
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Dvne is Train/Elite, mostly because Elite wore his Dvne t-shirt on Saturday
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Sentenced - Down
(Or not, looks to be too many letters)
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Sentenced - Down
(Or not, looks to be too many letters)
Nope.
Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
?: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
?: P_rt_____d – D____
?: ____ ___d_ – ____ __ ___d___
?: T__ __t____r – ___d____
?: __d ______ – ___
?: __p____d – ________
Train ft. Elite: Dvne – Asheran
?: __rr__ __rt_ – __r__ __ T__ R_d R___r
Guessed letters: DTRP
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Portishead Dummy Dacul
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Gimme S
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Portishead Dummy Dacul
I've listed it in the usual way but yeah we all know who this obviously came from. :lol
Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
?: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
Evermind ft. Lucases: Portishead – Dummy
?: ____ ___de – ____ __ S__d__s
?: T_e __te__er – ___d_ess
?: __d _e____ – ___
?: __pe___d – ___s____
Train ft. Elite: Dvne – Asheran
?: Barren Earth – Curse Of The Red River
Guessed letters: DTRPSE
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By the way, you all keep sending me a lot of nice music, you're going to make it very hard for me to snap my fingers and eliminate half of you in two rounds' time...
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Barren Earth - Curse of the Red Rider
Jingles?
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I sure did send you a lot of music, alright
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I sure did send you a lot of music, alright
Yeah if you keep doing that, we'll never actually reach round 5 so I guess you'll technically all survive.
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Show me some E
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All updated above.
Am having a bit of silly fun with first impressions this time. Up shortly.
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I sure did send you a lot of music, alright
Yeah if you keep doing that, we'll never actually reach round 5 so I guess you'll technically all survive.
This isn't even the longest Midnight Odyssey album :corn
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I sure did send you a lot of music, alright
Yeah if you keep doing that, we'll never actually reach round 5 so I guess you'll technically all survive.
This isn't even the longest Midnight Odyssey album :corn
I mean, if it's rated lower than 8/10 this round, they're not actually banned. :|
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Round 3 initial alliterative assessments
1. Cool and quirky but not quite catching yet.
2. Decent but decidedly disappointing.
3. Enjoyable, energetic and extremely catchy.
4. Friends of the Foo Fighters?
5. Immediately interesting and intense.
6. Likeable, if a little lacking.
7. Maybe magical, maybe middling.
8. Punchy and pretty powerful at points.
9. Slow and somewhat samey but a stronger second half.
10. Trippy and a tiny bit tantalising.
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Round 3 initial alliterative assessments
1. Cool and quirky but not quite catching yet.
2. Decent but decidedly disappointing.
6. Likeable, if a little lacking.
Round 3: Kattelox drops 2 consecutive bombs on ariich WW2-style
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Yep, 9
Barren Earth is probably Luoto, also
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Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
?: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
Evermind ft. Lucases: Portishead – Dummy
?: ____ ___de – _oo_ O_ S__do_s
?: T_e _ote__er – _oodness
?: __d _e____ – ___
Seneca: Copeland – ___s__n_
Train ft. Elite: Dvne – Asheran
Luoto: Barren Earth – Curse Of The Red River
Guessed letters: DTRPSEON
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Couch potato Ed boys not guessing letters
Show Rolf your Os
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How about an N
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Copeland sent by Seneca
That could also be #9 tbh
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All updated above, and I'm heading to bed now so you'll need to solve the rest without any updates. :P
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Dvne is Train/Elite, mostly because Elite wore his Dvne t-shirt on Saturday
It was me, indeed! :O
Well, Train sent it, but I definitely had something to do with that, yes.
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The Hotelier - Goodness
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Book of Shadows by Zakk Wylde sent by puppies?
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Book of Shadows by Zakk Wylde sent by puppies?
:orly:
:lmao:
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#4 could be ours, Elite do you know if the guys from Dvne are friends with The Foo Fighters? I think they may be!
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Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
?: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
Evermind ft. Lucases: Portishead – Dummy
?: Zakk Wylde – Book Of Shadows
?: The Hotelier – Goodness
?: __d _e____ – ___
Seneca: Copeland – ___s__n_
Train ft. Elite: Dvne – Asheran
Luoto: Barren Earth – Curse Of The Red River
Guessed letters: DTRPSEON
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puppies sent gance davin gance
gimme AAAAAYYYYYY
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Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
Puppies: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
Evermind ft. Lucases: Portishead – Dummy
?: Zakk Wylde – Book Of Shadows
?: The Hotelier – Goodness
?: _ad _e__a_ – ___
Seneca: Copeland – ___s__n_
Train ft. Elite: Dvne – Asheran
Luoto: Barren Earth – Curse Of The Red River
Guessed letters: STRAPON ED :eyebrows:
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Portishead actually came from Bizkit, not Sacul. Sacul's round is next if he sends me some albums in time.
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Portishead actually came from Bizkit, not Sacul. Sacul's round is next if he sends me some albums in time.
:O
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Copeland is blushing
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I
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Round 3 initial alliterative assessments
2. Decent but decidedly disappointing.
6. Likeable, if a little lacking.
7. Maybe magical, maybe middling.
9. Slow and somewhat samey but a stronger second half.
I'm guessing mine is one of these.
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I
This should be pretty helpful.
Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
Puppies: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
Evermind ft. Lucases: Portishead – Dummy
?: Zakk Wylde – Book Of Shadows
?: The Hotelier – Goodness
?: _ad _e__a_ – III
Seneca: Copeland – Blushing
Train ft. Elite: Dvne – Asheran
Luoto: Barren Earth – Curse Of The Red River
Guessed letters: STRAPON EDI - sounds like some sort of extremely inappropriate Mass Effect cosplay
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:neverusethis:
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Mad Fellaz
Tomi: Zakk Wylde – Book Of Shadows
Clortho: The Hotelier – Goodness
Nekov: Mad Fellaz – III
?
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Not quite. Let's see if you can figure out the rest. :neverusethis:
Katt: Randy Newman – Bad Love
Cyril: Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere
Puppies: Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection
Evermind ft. Lucases: Portishead – Dummy
Clortho: Zakk Wylde – Book Of Shadows
Tomi: The Hotelier – Goodness
Nekov ft. King: Mad Fellaz – III
Seneca: Copeland – Blushing
Train ft. Elite: Dvne – Asheran
Luoto: Barren Earth – Curse Of The Red River
Guessed letters: STRAPON EDI
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Elite sent The Hotelier
Scar sent Zakk Wylde
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Tomi Goodness Clortho Shadows
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Elite sent The Hotelier
Scar sent Zakk Wylde
Correct.
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Who the fuck is Scar?!
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Apparently, I am.
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Who the fuck is Scar?!
dear god i'm getting old
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Who the fuck is Scar?!
dear god i'm getting old
You're younger than me! :lol
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are you sure of that
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are you sure of that
I am 99% sure. The other 1% was replaced with Rolf quotes
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katt -> :getoffmylawn: :neverusethis: <- cyril
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Scar is when you put results up 10 minutes after me sending and give everybody 10/10
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Scar is when you put results up 10 minutes after me sending and give everybody 10/10
And throw in some stories about how you made your friends listen to that music for a meal. I still believe that's the same person, even if it's not confirmed :lol
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OnTheBacksOfRealTalk
I remember trying to really push it with music he wouldn’t like. Gojira, Native Construct etc. :lol
Train: Peppa Pig - My First Album - 1/10
Just kidding, 10/10!
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Or that other wonderful trainwreck of a roulette when the host got banned :lol
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Or that other wonderful trainwreck of a roulette when the host got banned :lol
:lol :lol That was one of the best roulettes ever
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Hey, it still got finished!! :lol
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Hey, it still got finished!! :lol
I don't think it did. It's in the "lost in the ether" category in the tracker thread.
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Hey, it still got finished!! :lol
I don't think it did. It's in the "lost in the ether" category in the tracker thread.
Oh I thought he was talking about someone else. :rollin
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Hey, it still got finished!! :lol
I don't think it did. It's in the "lost in the ether" category in the tracker thread.
Oh I thought he was talking about someone else. :rollin
Oh! Wait, he probably was.
I confused.
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:metardica:
:orly:
:backupslowly:
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The one I was talking about happened years ago and never got finished.
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The one I was talking about happened years ago and never got finished.
Scar?
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can we all take a moment to appreciate the beauty of this post
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=48164.msg2208060#msg2208060
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I'm going to listen to The Grand Conjuration now :lol
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let me help (https://mega.nz/#!TZdyCJzK!veZ0txWYhOT9xYJAPBrdkG687y7qGWfRyiU6hDCvOvE)
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I already have that on my phone for some reason :lol
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obviously because it's a true masterpiece 10/10
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can we all take a moment to appreciate the beauty of this post
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=48164.msg2208060#msg2208060
And here I thought 425 was generous with his scoring :lol
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can we all take a moment to appreciate the beauty of this post
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=48164.msg2208060#msg2208060
Yeah. Greatest stuff in roulette history.
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Round is taking slightly longer because you sent me SO MUCH DAMN MUSIC (blame Cyril). Should still have results up by the weekend so within the 10 days promised.
In the meantime, some stats on whether albums are 8+/10. Struggling to rate 3 of them so they especially need more listens.
1990-2000: 1 yes, 0 maybe, 2 no
2010-2016: 2 yes, 2 maybe, 0 no
2017-2019: 2 yes, 1 maybe, 0 no
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You will rethink my score.
(https://i.imgur.com/kW8Zjqq.gif)
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I will rethink your score.
>Katt loses 1 point
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That's more like it :neverusethis:
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surprised i'm not a no in the second category
went over better than i thought :corn
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The older stuff isn't doing so well this round. :corn
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you can't refer to fogeys as "stuff" that's rude
(are there even any fogeys left in the roulette i'm not actually sure)
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Does Firewings count?
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Old at heart, but I'm only 28
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Young at heart, but... Well I'm a fogey. So yes they're are fogeys still in the roulette. (And doing quite well by the way (although probably not for long))
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I think I've decided on ratings and probably rankings, so results will be later today. In the meantime, whether I like your Round 3 submission more or less than your Round 2 (which in some cases are marginal and still the same rating):
v Clortho
^ Train ft. Elite
^ Cyril
v Puppies
^ Evermind ft. Lucases
^ Luoto
^ Nekov ft. King
^ Seneca
^ Tomi
^ Katt
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Nice, I'm happy with 7/10 and more, hopefully more and enough to advance :tup
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you can't refer to fogeys as "stuff" that's rude
(are there even any fogeys left in the roulette i'm not actually sure)
My stuff is stiff this morning.
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Have decided on rankings and scores, just need to do write ups.
Interestingly, there's currently a distinct top half and bottom half. 2 points separate 2nd and 5th place. 3 points separate 5th and 6th place. 1 point separates 6th and 9th place.
With a big spread of scores in each round though, it's very much all to play for and the Round 3 results will show how suddenly things can change.
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Better than MND? Hmmm....
EDIT: Mine must be one that's marginal. I'll be surprised if Bad Love gets higher than an 8 although I think it's a 9.5 ;)
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well i got at the very least a 7.5, maybe better, so i'd say risk success :corn
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ROUND 3 RESULTS
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Luoto
Barren Earth – Curse Of The Red River (2010)
First impression: Immediately interesting and intense.
Final opinion: This album taps right in to my love for Amorphis. It has quite a similar blend of top quality melodic death metal with folk stylings and proggy synths. Not as strong as Amorphis in the vocal department, but then Tomi Joutsen is pretty special, but both harsh and clean vocals are still solid. And musically the album is fantastic, quite intense at times but very melodic as well. Also very impressive for a debut album, so I’m very interested to hear what they’ve done since. Bit of a short review as I don’t really have anything else to say, it’s just a great album.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 10 + 1 bonus = 11 points
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Evermind ft. Lucases
Portishead – Dummy (1994)
First impression: Trippy and a tiny bit tantalising.
Final opinion: This might well end up becoming my favourite trip hop album (unless Submotion Orchestra counts). It’s really gorgeous, warm, moody, and very cool. It’s also got a nice variety to it as well, despite the consistent vibe throughout. Honestly no idea why I’ve never really checked Portishead out properly before. To be honest it would have been the round winner if not for one very specific thing I need to talk about, which is that hideous twangy tremolo guitar that keeps playing the same note throughout the whole of Sour Times. It’s genuinely irritating and ruins what would otherwise be a really good song. Apart from that, the rest of the album is really great, and I’d especially like to note Roads as one of the highlights of the roulette so far. What an absolutely stunning song. You’re going from strength to strength with each round!
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 9 + 1 bonus = 10 points
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Puppies
Dance Gavin Dance – Artificial Selection (2018)
First impression: Enjoyable, energetic and extremely catchy.
Final opinion: To be honest I could just keep my first impression as the full review because it’s exactly how I still feel. It’s not often I hear this sort of overtly poppy post-hardcore (Tides of Man did it before they went all instrumental post-rock instead), but these guys do it really well. This album has so much energy, a great sense of fun and so many brilliant hooks and enjoyable riffs. But it’s also not afraid to go all out heavy at times (e.g. in The Rattler). Those aren’t my favourite parts, on the whole, but they’re crunchy and exciting, and their inclusion gives the album quite a unique overall feel, to me at least. Great stuff.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 8.5 + 1 bonus = 9.5 points
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Train ft. Elite
Dvne – Asheran (2017)
First impression: Punchy and pretty powerful at points.
Final opinion: In your submission you compared these guys to Anciients. I’ve only heard one Anciients album, and to be honest I don’t remember it very well, but I definitely didn’t like it nearly as much as this. Not sure how to describe it really - proggy sludge metal? Or sludgy prog metal perhaps. Either way, the album has an excellent mix of chunky riffs, nice guitar work, big choruses and punchy production. The vocalist is really great too which I think is important in making this sort of music work. There are also some nice quieter moments - although a lot of it is fairly intense, it’s balanced and well-paced. I’m rating it based on how I feel about it now (which is all I can do really) but I can potentially see it growing even more on me over time.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 8 + 1 bonus = 9 points
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Seneca
Copeland – Blushing (2019)
First impression: Maybe magical, maybe middling.
Final opinion: Ok, so definitely more magical than middling. This album has such a rich, warm and interesting sound, which is not really that common for and indie rock band. But then I guess the album also isn’t stuck in a particular indie style - there’s really great use of strings, synths and electronics to create that richness of sound. A particular highlight for me is the use of gorgeous vocal harmonies in a number of songs - on my first listen they really stood out to me in Lay Here and it made me quite attentive to them throughout the rest of the album (another standout being Strange Flower). Some of the songs I still find less interesting, but overall it’s a really strong, interesting album.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 7.5 + 1 bonus = 8.5 points
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Tomi
The Hotelier – Goodness (2016)
First impression: Friends of the Foo Fighters?
Final opinion: The singer is obviously quite different to Dave Grohl, and there’s more of an indie vibe throughout (like the spoken word bits, and the weird snare hits), but tonally and harmonically a lot of this really reminds so much of the Foo Fighters. But whereas the Foos mix amazing songs in with mediocre ones, this album is never quite so exciting but is more consistent. I actually found it hard to rate - much like Glass Animals in the last round - because the lack of real standouts makes me wonder if it deserves that 8/10 bonus point. But then each time I listen to it, it’s consistently enjoyable and I think actually yes it does. And so 8/10 it is.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 7 + 1 bonus = 8 points
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Nekov ft. King
Mad Fellaz – III (2019)
First impression: Cool and quirky but not quite catching yet.
Final opinion: This album has definitely grown on me since the first listen, but my overall feeling towards it is roughly the same. It’s very cool prog with a range of influences, and moments that remind me of various artists but never sound too derivative. However, I don’t feel it really manages to carve out an identity of its own. They definitely strike me as a band with a ton of great ideas who would really benefit from refining them a bit. There are loads of parts of the album that individually I enjoy on an intellectual level, but none of it really makes me feel anything and I find it hard to form a sense of what the overall album is like despite listening to it a number of times. So all in all a very good album but with something missing.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6.5 points
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Cyril
Midnight Odyssey – Funerals From The Astral Sphere (2011)
First impression: Slow and somewhat samey but a stronger second half.
Final opinion: You told me I’d either love or hate this so I’m almost disappointed that it’s neither. Actually I’d say there’s a lot about this I love. While I definitely think it’s too long, the sense of atmosphere and the way most songs build very delicately is gorgeous. And while it’s a little samey, actually once you get used to the pace there’s a decent amount of different ideas and tones. But what stops me loving the album is the production. It’s fine in the atmospheric sections, but I find it far too thin and muddy in the heavier sections. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s exactly how it’s supposed to be, but it makes it really hard for me to get into some sections, particularly the more black metal bits. The second disc is a little better in that regard and feels stronger overall. As I said in PMs, I really appreciate you taking some risks. What this has done is made me want to discover atmospheric black metal with similarly gorgeous music but a better sound.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6 points
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Katt
Randy Newman – Bad Love (1999)
First impression: Likeable, if a little lacking.
Final opinion: If I enjoyed the whole album as much as I do the first three songs, this would have ranked a lot higher. Yes, even the one you dislike for some reason (which I’d genuinely be interested to chat about - it has a nice groove and some fun guitar flourishes). I think these opening songs cover the different aspects of the album really well - the sentimentality, the jazziness, the (surprising, to me) quiet anger, and the quirkiness. The rest of the album moves around all these aspects too, but never quite as well in my opinion. A few of the songs I simply find uninteresting. A couple are good but I don’t feel work with his unique and distinctive voice. This hasn’t made me a Randy Newman convert but it’s certainly given me a better sense of his musical and lyrical depth and I did like it quite a bit overall.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 5.5 points
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Clortho
Zakk Wylde – Book Of Shadows (1996)
First impression: Decent but decidedly disappointing.
Final opinion: I guess the honeymoon couldn’t last forever! I really appreciate you sending me different stuff each round and it worked great in the first two rounds, but this isn’t doing it for me unfortunately. It’s not bad at all - it’s very competent and pleasant rock music, and I do like Wylde’s voice which has a warm and emotional quality to it. I just find the album a bit bland and middle-of-the-road. Nothing really stands out as interesting or unique at any point. Not even the guitar work - for someone who is famous for being a guitarist, his playing really doesn’t strike me as even vaguely interesting (there are a couple of pretty good solos, like in Road Back home, but that’s about it).
Rating: 6.5/10
Score: 4 points
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Scores after Round 3:
1. (^) Train ft. Elite = 9.5 + 8.5 + 9.0 = 27.0
2. (v) Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 = 26.5
3. (^) Luoto = 7.0 + 7.0 + 11.0 = 25.0
4=(=) Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 + 9.5 = 24.5
4=(^) Evermind ft. Lucases = 5.0 + 9.5 + 10.0 = 24.5
6=(v) Cyril = 9.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 = 21.5
6=(^) Seneca = 8.5 + 4.5 + 8.5 = 21.5
8. (=) Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 = 21.0
9. (v) Nekov ft. King = 10.0 + 4.0 + 6.5 = 20.5
10.(=) Katt = 6.5 + 6.0 + 5.5 = 18.0
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Yay, round winner!
Olli-Pekka Laine (Amorphis) is a founding member of Barren Earth, and keyboards on that album are handled by Kasper Mĺrtenson who wrote the iconic Black Winter Day. I like to say that Forlorn Waves sounds more like Mĺrtenson than it sounds like old Amorphis ;)
Also not surprised to see Asheran working well for you.
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Nuts.
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DOWN DOWN LOWER BELOW TO THE BOTTOM TRAIN OBSERVATION
My ranking of the albums I've sent you so far is the opposite of what you've ranked them, I think
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Olli-Pekka Laine (Amorphis) is a founding member of Barren Earth, and keyboards on that album are handled by Kasper Mĺrtenson who wrote the iconic Black Winter Day. I like to say that Forlorn Waves sounds more like Mĺrtenson than it sounds like old Amorphis ;)
Well, now the Amorphis similarities make sense. :lol
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I personally wouldn't compare Dvne to Anciients, because I think Dvne are far better, but I can see what Thomas the Tank Engine means.. kind of. Glad that worked out well, even though I'm not your main participant. For the record, this is definitely an album I would have sent, and in hindsight I should have done so in the first round.
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i can definitely see the comparisons though Dvne are more melodic. I could never get super into that album though, it's nice but never really clicked for me. The most recent Anciients album I would consider better by a decent margin.
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Well crap. Can't win them all. It was worth a shot. I love that album. What to send next...?
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I'll take that score :metal
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Portishead - Dummy was so good, I listened to it during my flight previous Sunday and ended up buying the album next day in Amsterdam.
That was from Bizkit, next album is from Sacul, however I'll send it in 48 hours, can't do it right now.
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And sent for round 4
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I've sent. Let's see how far I can fall. Sent another album I love. Much different than the last one. Actually, much different than all the albums I've sent.
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Sent something... djentle.
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I think bands can easily be comparable regardless of some quality gap (by the way, I agree with Cyril that the latest Anciients is better), but glad you liked it!
Picked 2 potential albums (I think I know which I’d like to send this round) and will send tonight. Just checking for a second opinion with Elite right now :corn
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can we all take a moment to appreciate the beauty of this post
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=48164.msg2208060#msg2208060
And here I thought 425 was generous with his scoring :lol
Wow, late to this but I feel put on blast by this comparison :P
In my own defense: I think if anything what I have is a very narrow band of scores, the 7-9 range. I almost never give 10s. I think I've given maybe four ever: The Great Escape, High Hopes, Sleeping at Last, and probably something in the championship?
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i haven't given a 10 since my first roulette. i don't think i've even hit 9.5 since then
it's super rare for something to feel like a 10 after only 5 or so listens though
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I think bands can easily be comparable regardless of some quality gap (by the way, I agree with Cyril that the latest Anciients is better), but glad you liked it!
Okay - so let me say it again, and now not as poorly worded: I actually enjoyed the latest Anciients album, but I haven't heard in perhaps two years. I think the Dvne album is better, because it's more varied and more melodic. I can see the comparison in the sense that the music overall is quite similar, but I personally wouldn't go 'hey this band sounds the same as Anciients', because - well - they don't (at least to me).
And of course you can make comparisons through a quality gap. Reading back my comment makes it look really silly.
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Damn, I need to step up quickly
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Damn I don't know why I didn't sent Dummy in your last roulette, I'm glad you love it, and I agree, Roads is amazing :hefdaddy (by the way, I recommend you the book about the record by RJ Wheaton, it also goes on about the whole trip-hop scene, it's a fantastic read) - great pick Luke. Portishead's discography is terribly short, but hope you have fun digging it.
Portishead - Dummy was so good, I listened to it during my flight previous Sunday and ended up buying the album next day in Amsterdam.
Wow, wouldn't have guessed you'd like it that much, hell yeah :metal
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Damn I don't know why I didn't sent Dummy in your last roulette
I don't know either, seems like a fantastic and obvious (to me now anyway) overlap of our tastes.
I think if anything what I have is a very narrow band of scores, the 7-9 range. I almost never give 10s.
I'm the same. Actually more like 7-8.5 for me mostly. So far in this roulette there's only been one score above that range and one score below - both achieved by Clortho. :lol That's part of why I changed my scoring system this time to base it on rankings.
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I've been paying attention to who's coming out on top and admittedly should've taken notes from them. But I find it more exciting to send some off the wall stuff that ariich probably wouldn't get from other people. So hopefully the album I sent this time kind of finds some middle ground between the two ends :)
The fact that I squeezed a Randy Newman album into someone's roulette is basically mission accomplished for me so whatever :lol
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But I find it more exciting to send some off the wall stuff that ariich probably wouldn't get from other people.
And I love that you do. Some of that stuff I love, and the stuff I don't still fills important gaps in my musical experience.
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I'm still shocked you liked I'm Dead (But I Don't Know It). I told you I thought that one was outstandingly bad and I would never have predicted you liking it. I guess it's a fundamental issue I have with it; the style is not something I think Randy's ever been good at and it sounds almost as bad as his attempt to rap back in one horrible song on an otherwise stellar 80s record. Songs like I Miss You, Big Hat No Cattle, I Want Everyone To Like Me, Every Time It Rains, honestly everything outside of that song has something unique I like. (The Great Nations of Europe is a particularly choice song)
I thought about sending Trouble In Paradise, which has smash hit I Love L.A. on it. But if you're ever curious about listening to more Randy Newman, I would suggest jumping into this specific compilation (https://www.amazon.com/Best-Randy-Newman/dp/B00005NTQ4) which contains his huge hits and a bunch of other amazing songs that are satirical, comical, and poignant, sometimes all at once. Honestly, I think it's more consistent and varied than any of his studio outputs, a rare time I would recommend a greatest hits for new listeners over a particular record - but I thought a studio record was more appropriate for a roulette. :)
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Sent something a bit (or more) older this time :tup
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Sent some Dope P.O.P
pop i meant i sent some pop
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7 submissions in so far. These include the oldest album of the roulette (which is also the 2nd oldest I've ever received in a roulette) and also the newest (so new it hadn't been released yet when the roulette started).
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Sent
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Sent as well
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So did I, a few hours ago.
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So, that should be everyone. Bring the hangman
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You are correct, good sir.
?: ____________ _________ – _________
?: __ – ________ _____
?: ________ ___ – _____
?: ____ ______ – __________ ___ ___ ____ _______
?: _________ _____ – ___ _____ __ ____ __ ____
?: ___ _________ – ___ __ _______ _ ______
?: _____ ______ – ___ _____ __________
?: _________ – ____ ___ ______ _____
?: _____ – ____
?: _____ ______ – ____________
Guessed letters:
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U
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IQ
D
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U
Uncommon one to start with.
?: ____________ M_______m – _mm______
?: _m – _d______ _____
?: ________ ___ – ___u_
?: ____ ______ – __________ ___ ___ __m_ _______
?: ________d _____ – ___ ____d __ U__d __ ____
?: ___ _________ – ___ __ M___u__ _ ______
?: _____ D_____ – ___ _um__ __________
?: _____u___ – ____ ___ M_____ _____
?: _____ – ____
?: _____ ______ – __u_________
Guessed letters: DUM
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M
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B
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B
thank you!
?: _________b__ M_______m – _mm______
?: _m – _d______ _____
?: ____b___ ___ – ___u_
?: ____ ______ – __________ ___ ___ __m_ _______
?: ________d _____ – ___ ____d __ U__d __ ____
?: ___ _________ – ___ __ M___u__ _ ______
?: _____ D_____ – ___ _um__ __________
?: _____u___ – ____ ___ M_____ B____
?: _____ – ____
?: _____ __b___ – __u_________
Guessed letters: DUMB
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O
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How about Z
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Y
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?: _________b__ M_______m – _mm____o_
?: Om – _d______ _o___
?: ____bo__ ___ – ___u_
?: ____ _o____ – ____y_____ ___ ___ __m_ _o_____
?: ________d _____ – ___ _o__d __ U__d _o __o_
?: ___ _________ – _o_ _o M___u__ _ ______
?: ___o_ D_____ – ___ _um__ _o______o_
?: _____u__y – ___o ___ M___o_ B____
?: _____ – ____
?: ___o_ __b___ – _ou_________
Guessed letters: DUMBOZY
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well, i see my own!
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Kattelox: Shattered Skies - The World We Used to Know
The Gathering - How to Measure a Planet
Also gimme S
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:tup
?: _______s_b__ M______sm – _mm__s_o_
?: Om – _d______ So__s
?: __s_bo__ _s_ – ___us
?: ____ _o___s – ____y_____ ___ ___ __m_ _o_____
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
?: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
?: ___os D_____ – ___ _um__ _o______o_
?: S____u__y – ___o ___ M___o_ B____
?: _____ – ____
?: __so_ _sb___ – Sou____s____
Guessed letters: DUMBOZYS
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Gimme L
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Damn Luoto... how'd you know?
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Damn Luoto... how'd you know?
I did read the OP of your roulette even though I didn't end up participating. Not 100% sure if sarcasm though :P
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Damn Luoto... how'd you know?
I did read the OP of your roulette even though I didn't end up participating. Not 100% sure if sarcasm though :P
Serious, especially because so few letters were filled in. Good guess. That record is amazing though. One of the coolest albums I've heard in recent memory.
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I think Spotify threw a song off that record at me at some point. Don't remember much except for what it generally sounded like.
Did Tomi send Wishbone Ash - Argus?
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I did, nice guess, how did you know?
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Well you said you sent something older so...
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?: _______s_bl_ M______sm – _mm__s_o_
?: Om – _d______ So__s
Tomi: Wishbone Ash – Argus
?: L___ Lo___s – ____y_____ _ll ___ __m_ _o_____
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
?: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
?: ___os D_____ – ___ _um__ _o______o_
?: S____u__y – ___o ___ M___o_ Bl___
?: _____ – ____
?: __so_ _sb_ll – Sou____s____
Guessed letters: DUMBOZYSL
There are definitely far fewer correct guesses than there normally are with this many letters guessed. A more obscure round I guess?
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N for :neverusethis:
I think I already guessed it but once again Advaitic Songs.
Irreversible Mechanism - Immersion?
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Jason Isbell sent by seneca
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Jason Isbell sent by seneca
Southeastern
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I think I already guessed it but once again Advaitic Songs.
I don't think so? Checked again and can't see it anywhere (and no I didn't delete a post or anything).
?: Irreversible Mechanism – Immersion
?: Om – Advaitic Songs
Tomi: Wishbone Ash – Argus
?: L___ Lo___s – ____y___n_ _ll ___ __m_ _o_____
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
?: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
?: Chaos Divine – The Human Connection
?: Sanctuary – _n_o ___ M___o_ Bl___
?: _____ – ____
Seneca: Jason Isbell – Southeastern
Guessed letters: DUMBOZYSLN
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That's bizarre, I swear I made a post guessing that yesterday! I hope there's not some errant post in another thread now :lol
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Chaos Divine - The Human Connection
Oh hey an album I have :lol
Sanctuary?
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That's bizarre, I swear I made a post guessing that yesterday! I hope there's not some errant post in another thread now :lol
I really hope there's a thread where you've just posted "Advaitic Songs" out of context. Even better if it's not on DTF.
EDIT: By the way updated above.
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Round 4 three-word thoughts
1. Rather exciting prog.
2. Hard to grasp.
3. A nice discovery.
4. Little stood out.
5. Familiar yet surprising.
6. Cool guitar work.
7. Somewhat dated perhaps.
8. Oddly upbeat melancholia.
9. Intense atmospheric engaging.
10. What is this.
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Sanctuary is Into The Mirror Black. Show me A!
I think my album could be 1, 3, 6, or 9...
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Ok, but I'm going to follow Seneca's lead and say NO MORE VOWELS FOR YOU.
?: Irreversible Mechanism – Immersion
?: Om – Advaitic Songs
Tomi: Wishbone Ash – Argus
?: L___ Lo___s – ____y___n_ All ___ __m_ _o_____
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
?: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
?: Chaos Divine – The Human Connection
?: Sanctuary – Into The Mirror Black
?: _a___ – ____
Seneca: Jason Isbell – Southeastern
Guessed letters: DUMBOZYSLNA
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Mine could be any of them.
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R!!
Probably #4 :corn
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Is that Los Lobos?
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Is that Los Lobos?
It is not.
?: Irreversible Mechanism – Immersion
?: Om – Advaitic Songs
Tomi: Wishbone Ash – Argus
?: L___ Lo__rs – ___ry___n_ All ___ __m_ _or___r
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
?: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
?: Chaos Divine – The Human Connection
?: Sanctuary – Into The Mirror Black
?: _a__r – ____
Seneca: Jason Isbell – Southeastern
Guessed letters: DUMBOZYSLNAR
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Mine could be any of them except 6 and 7. :corn
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4. Little stood out.
9. Intense atmospheric engaging.
10. What is this.
Any of these :metal
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Round 4 three-word thoughts
3. A nice discovery.
9. Intense atmospheric engaging.
10. What is this.
One of these maybe?
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Give me the C for Cyril
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F?
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Like Lovers - Everything All The Time Forever
The other one could be basically anything
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E
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E
Ok, but I'm going to follow Seneca's lead and say NO MORE VOWELS FOR YOU.
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:facepalm: :lol
T!
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Nice to see Lex Luthor using his kryptonite to stop Superman.
?: Irreversible Mechanism – Immersion
?: Om – Advaitic Songs
Tomi: Wishbone Ash – Argus
?: Like Lovers – Everything All The Time Forever
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
?: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
?: Chaos Divine – The Human Connection
?: Sanctuary – Into The Mirror Black
?: _a__r – ____
Seneca: Jason Isbell – Southeastern
Guessed letters: DUMBOZYSLNARCFT
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I'm 90% sure the album title of the unguessed one is all numbers, and probably like, a year
I just have no clue what the band name could possibly be :lol
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Feel free to try guessing some numbers. I'll let you guess up to four digits.
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1, 9, 0, 2
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4 6 8 3
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I didn't mean each. :P I'll take the first from each of you.
?: Irreversible Mechanism – Immersion
?: Om – Advaitic Songs
Tomi: Wishbone Ash – Argus
?: Like Lovers – Everything All The Time Forever
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
?: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
?: Chaos Divine – The Human Connection
?: Sanctuary – Into The Mirror Black
?: _a__r – ____
Seneca: Jason Isbell – Southeastern
Guessed letters: DUMBOZYSLNARCFT142
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Omg. I give up :lol
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2
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This is quite entertaining for me. :lol
Updated above.
You could also try and guess who sent what. Cyril's generally pretty good at that.
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Stadler sent Chaos Divine
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This is quite entertaining for me. :lol
Well, alright, if you insist
Papir - IIII by Nekov
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.......that's not how roman numerals work :neverusethis:
Om - Train
Chaos Divine - Luoto
Sanctuary - Clortho
The Gathering - Puppies
Like Lovers - Evermind (Dacul tho)
Irreversible Mechanism - me obv
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.......that's not how roman numerals work :neverusethis:
I have a clock with IIII instead of IV so there's that.
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This is quite entertaining for me. :lol
Well, alright, if you insist
Papir - IIII by Nekov
What a buzzkill :lol
.......that's not how roman numerals work :neverusethis:
I have a clock with IIII instead of IV so there's that.
Every roman numeral clock is like that. I read it has to do with a matter of symmetry with the VIII
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I have seen maybe one roman numeral clock in my life with IIII where the IV is. Everything else follows the typical format...
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I have seen maybe one roman numeral clock in my life with IIII where the IV is. Everything else follows the typical format...
That explains why you didn't manage to guess the album :biggrin:
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I have seen maybe one roman numeral clock in my life with IIII where the IV is. Everything else follows the typical format...
That explains why you didn't manage to guess the album :biggrin:
No, I got bamboozled out of the answer because Rich didn't want to give me any more vowels so I was stuck playing myself! :lol
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.......that's not how roman numerals work :neverusethis:
Om - Train
Chaos Divine - Luoto
Sanctuary - Clortho
The Gathering - Puppies
Like Lovers - Evermind (Dacul tho)
Irreversible Mechanism - me obv
Not quite, but close enough.
Cyril: Irreversible Mechanism – Immersion
Evermind ft. Lucases: Om – Advaitic Songs
Tomi: Wishbone Ash – Argus
Train ft. Elite: Like Lovers – Everything All The Time Forever
Katt: Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know
Puppies: The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet
Luoto: Chaos Divine – The Human Connection
Clortho: Sanctuary – Into The Mirror Black
Nekov ft. King: Papir – IIII
Seneca: Jason Isbell – Southeastern
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Dang, I had Dacul as Om at first but Like Lovers doesn't make sense to me coming from train :lol
But yeet
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What, it’s totally my kind of music, have you even heard it? The album is not even a month old I think :lol
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All I got from looking into the band was that they were a pop act
Haven't listened no, so
I dunno :V
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All I got from looking into the band was that they were a pop act
Haven't listened no, so
I dunno :V
He literally posted in the thread that he sent pop.
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I've never heard of Like Lovers but I'm interested now.
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You expect me to -read- threads AND -remember- other people are in roulettes besides me? smh
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STATS TIME
Albums achieving 8/10 or more:
1970-1999: 1 yes, 0 maybe, 2 no
2000-2014: 2 yes, 1 maybe, 1 no
2015-2019: 2 yes, 0 maybe, 1 no
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Mine better be in the yes column this time!
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66% chance of a yes :metal
playing against Like Loves and Shattered Skies and tbh i have no clue which is which
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66% chance of a "no" This could be an epic collapse.
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Think I can do comparisons with last round now as well. Same as last time, this could mean the same rating and only a slight preference, or could be a big jump. And again in order of ranking after the 3rd round.
v Train ft. Elite
^ Clortho
^ Luoto
v Puppies
v Evermind ft. Lucases
^ Cyril
v Seneca
^ Tomi
v Nekov ft. King
^ Katt
I think we're going to see some pretty big jumps in rankings here.
EDIT: Results will be tomorrow. Better start preparing your Greatest Hits for round 5, if you haven't already!
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Don't have to prepare a greatest hits if I'm gonna be eliminated next round anyway :2metal:
EDIT: Wait. Round 5 is the greatest hits. Oh shit! :lol
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Don't have to prepare a greatest hits if I'm gonna be eliminated next round anyway :2metal:
EDIT: Wait. Round 5 is the greatest hits. Oh shit! :lol
Yep. All ten of you have to do a greatest hits. :lol
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Well yeah, no way this would've been better than Dummy.
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my greatest hits is already ready & i just verified i'm happy with the track order early today
it's actually like 6 seconds over 70 minutes though so i think i'm gonna get banned from DTF
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I'm so fucked :lol
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I'm so fucked :lol
Without wanting to spoil the results, things did go a little downhill for you after round 1. :P
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honestly i'd be surprised if i didn't get an 8 based on the stats bcuz my last two were both 7.5's and round 3 was up from round 2, so i dunno how much higher i could even go in the 7.5 range now :lol
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my greatest hits is already ready & i just verified i'm happy with the track order early today
it's actually like 6 seconds over 70 minutes though so i think i'm gonna get banned from DTF
:lol :lol
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Oh, right.....greatest hits round....let me get my darts and dart board.... :biggrin:
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Are you fine with me sending a single file for the greatest hits round? I am making some minor edits to alleviate any jarring cuts from one track to the next.
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i, on the other hand, am just sending a spotify playlist 'cause i'm lazy. tbh i was lazy with this greatest hits but only because it's too obvious and easy to make
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Not fussed about format. Spotify playlist is fine, set of mp3s is fine and single file is fine.
Same applies to the concept album for those who make it there.
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:metardica:
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ROUND 4 RESULTS
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Tomi
Wishbone Ash – Argus (1972)
First impression: A nice discovery.
Final opinion: This really crept up on me. I mean, I very much liked it on first listen, but I didn’t at all think it was a possible round winner. I’ve heard of Wishbone Ash, of course, but I’m not sure I’ve ever listened to anything of theirs. So what a fantastic discovery for me! I enjoyed the 70s prog vibe right from the start, but it was only on my third listen that I realised just how much I was loving the whole album. There’s a nice mix of influences from earlier bands (I definitely hear some Beatles in there) along with styles and ideas that were clearly new at the time and influenced bands that came later. It’s also really accessible - there’s proggy stuff sure, but it’s all pretty restrained and there’s such a focus on melody that sits really well with me.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 10 + 1 bonus = 11 points
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Luoto
Chaos Divine – The Human Connection (2011)
First impression: Rather exciting prog.
Final opinion: I thought this would probably be the round winner until right at the end when it was just pipped to the top spot. I’ve seen them mentioned before, but never heard them and didn’t know anything about them until now. My album roulettes are proving great for discovering Australian prog metal bands I was only vaguely aware of (Caligula’s Horse the first time, Voyager last time and now these guys this time). I like pretty much everything about this - it’s exciting, heavy, has good riffs, great tunes, top notch performances and strong production. Right from the first song, the blend of harsh vocals, strong melodies and a generally proggy sound works so well and had me pretty hooked. The album is nicely varied and balanced too, but always pretty consistent in style.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 9.5 + 1 bonus = 10.5 points
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Katt
Shattered Skies – The World We Used to Know (2015)
First impression: Cool guitar work.
Final opinion: The guitars on this album really are very cool and stood out to me on first listen. My main reflection on this album is that it highlights how much a lot of music benefits from good vocal lines. If you took the vocals out, I think this would sound so much like a lot of instrumental djent bands that I’d likely never rate above a 7. But the general style here - which has some fantastic groove by the way - combined with slick and enjoyable guitar playing and some strong vocal melodies ends up more than the sum of its parts. And that’s another thing that stands out to me too, the groove. The riffs in songs like 15 Minutes and Saviors get me grinning like a goon. The only slight downpoint is that the production isn’t the strongest, but otherwise this is a great album.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 8.5 + 1 bonus = 9.5 points
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Cyril
Irreversible Mechanism – Immersion (2018)
First impression: Intense, atmospheric, engaging.
Final opinion: Your attempts to send me tech death have finally achieved an 8/10! I’ve always liked what you’ve sent me before but generally found it quite cold and distant, but not with this. You said it was a grower (and I mean, maybe it will be) but right from the off I found it immersive and interesting. Melodically, it’s still what I’d describe as “not obvious”, so from that point of view it’s not super accessible and does take a bit of getting used to, I suppose. But everything is very nicely in balance - the riffs, the growls, the atmosphere, the melodies - such that I got used to it within that first listen. And I didn’t fully appreciate it on first listen, but I’ve come to really like the guitar work as well - not just the playing, but the way the riffs and lead lines are crafted.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 7.5 + 1 bonus = 8.5 points
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Seneca
Jason Isbell – Southeastern (2013)
First impression: Oddly upbeat melancholia.
Final opinion: A lot of the subject matter on this album is clearly very melancholic (which is evidently your thing) and he pulls it all off with a gorgeous amount of emotion, but there’s also something I find strangely uplifting about the album too. Not entirely dissimilar to the Phoebe Bridgers you sent in round 1, there’s something I like about artists who explore sad subjects in a way that doesn’t wallow but still emotes. My collection doesn’t have much American folk/country in it, but this will be a great addition. The album has so much warmth and compassion. There are some songs that are a little less exciting, but even in those his delivery makes it engaging. At its best, the songs really tug on the heart-strings.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 7 + 1 bonus = 8 points
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Evermind ft. Lucases
Om – Advaitic Songs (2012)
First impression: What is this.
Final opinion: Like, seriously, what is this? As far as I can tell it’s a fusion of religious chamber music and stoner rock. It’s a really bizarre combination, but I do rather dig it. Especially the more chamber-infused stuff actually - it creates such a unique and unusual sound and mood, almost psychedelic at times. There are things I’m less keen on - the vocals are ok but don’t entirely do it for me, the heavier section in State of Non-Return sounds quite muddy, and in general the songs all feel quite long. I guess that’s part of the vibe, but for my tastes I think they could do with more build-up and development. Still, it’s a cool album and nothing like anything else I’ve heard.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6.5 points
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Puppies
The Gathering – How to Measure a Planet? (1998)
First impression: Familiar, yet surprising.
Final opinion: This feels familiar not just because of Anneke’s voice, but also because the general style is for the most part fairly straightforward. But at the same time, within that general style there are a number of surprises and it feels a little different - heavier, darker - to similar bands (possibly a leftover from their earlier style). As much as I like Anneke’s performances in more recent things I’ve heard her in, I think her voice suits this music better. It’s really good. If I have one detraction, it’s that I find it slightly plodding at times. I’m not sure it’s about the album being long so much as a few of the songs feeling like they never quite get going.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6 points
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Nekov ft. King
Papir – IIII (2013)
First impression: Little stood out.
Final opinion: You’ve not been having much luck since Round 1! Once again, this is good, but I don’t find it that great. Instrumental prog isn’t generally an easy sell for me. What I like a lot here is the post-rock vibe - the songs have a good atmosphere and some nice dynamics. It never quite gets going though, and doesn’t have the same peaks and troughs as the best post-rock does. Nor does it have the excitement or quirkiness of the best instrumental prog/fusion. It’s like it’s quite good at everything it does, but nothing stands out as particularly interesting to me.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 5 points
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Clortho
Sanctuary – Into The Mirror Black (1989)
First impression: Somewhat dated, perhaps.
Final opinion: I definitely find it fairly dated, but it’s pretty cool. There’s not a huge amount of 80s thrash I enjoy, and in general the stuff I really like (such as Metallica and Megadeth) stands out for having strong melodies, which feel mostly lacking here. But the riffing is great and helps the album still be really enjoyable. Also really interesting is the vocals - at first I thought of them as pretty 80s metal type vocals, but there was also something different and oddly familiar about them. On discovering it was in fact Warrel Dane, it all makes sense (and Loomis too!). Quite different musically to Nevermore, but I can hear the origin of their music here, and there are various places where Dane sings in exactly the same way as he did right up until he passed away. Glad to have heard them now, but don’t see them becoming a favourite.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 4.5 points
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Train ft. Elite
Like Lovers – Everything All The Time Forever (2019)
First impression: Hard to grasp.
Final opinion: I guess I can see why they’re defined as pop, but it’s not really pop and not super accessible. It’s pretty cool though, quite experimental and unusual. I especially like some of the harmonised vocals, like in the opening title track but also throughout the album. There are lots of great moments. It all just feels quite inconsistent. This is particularly noticeable in Health, which has one of the best melodies on the album (“I’ve been in love, but I feel better now…”) but otherwise I find quite boring. So yeah, a solid album definitely, but ends up at the bottom of the pack because of the strength of the competition.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 4 points
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Scores after Round 4:
1. (^) Luoto = 7.0 + 7.0 + 11.0 + 10.5 = 35.5
2. (^) Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 + 11.0 = 32.0
3=(v) Train ft. Elite = 9.5 + 8.5 + 9.0 + 4.0 = 31.0
3=(v) Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 + 4.5 = 31.0
3=(^) Evermind ft. Lucases = 5.0 + 9.5 + 10.0 + 6.5 = 31.0
6. (v) Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 + 9.5 + 6.0 = 30.5
7. (v) Cyril = 9.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 = 30.0
8. (v) Seneca = 8.5 + 4.5 + 8.5 + 8.0 = 29.5
9. (^) Katt = 6.5 + 6.0 + 5.5 + 9.5 = 27.5
10.(v) Nekov ft. King = 10.0 + 4.0 + 6.5 + 5.0 = 25.5
Luoto is basically guaranteed to progress but the other four places are very much up for grabs!
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Not bad. I'm waiting for Lucases' suggestions for the Greatest Hits and I'll need to listen to them too, so let's say I'll send in ~48-60 hours. We can actually make it into the Top 5 and I'm quite thrilled about that!
Also good to see Wishbone Ash getting appreciation, I love Argus.
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Reminder of the rules for Round 5:
Round 5 – Greatest Hits: Chance to send me your own compilation, ideal for some artists but tricky for others so choose wisely. 40-70 minutes of music from a single artist, which must come from at least 3 different albums (for this purpose, a single or b-side that was never on a studio album counts as a separate release, but short interlude tracks don’t count at all). There will be no specific scoring for flow so don’t worry too much about it, though of course it can affect my overall enjoyment. After this round, the 5 lowest scoring participants will be eliminated, and the other 5 will play the rest of the roulette.
And to again reiterate, format can either be Spotify playlist, a collection of mp3s or equivalent files, or a single file if you've edited it that way.
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ROUND 4 RESULTS
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Tomi
Wishbone Ash – Argus (1972)
First impression: A nice discovery.
Final opinion: This really crept up on me. I mean, I very much liked it on first listen, but I didn’t at all think it was a possible round winner. I’ve heard of Wishbone Ash, of course, but I’m not sure I’ve ever listened to anything of theirs. So what a fantastic discovery for me! I enjoyed the 70s prog vibe right from the start, but it was only on my third listen that I realised just how much I was loving the whole album. There’s a nice mix of influences from earlier bands (I definitely hear some Beatles in there) along with styles and ideas that were clearly new at the time and influenced bands that came later. It’s also really accessible - there’s proggy stuff sure, but it’s all pretty restrained and there’s such a focus on melody that sits really well with me.
Rating: 8.5/10
Score: 10 + 1 bonus = 11 points
Me neither tbh :lol I'm glad you liked it, they are underappreciated here :)
Not sure what to send (or compile) for the next round as I'm pretty much out of music...
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:millahhhh
I'll think about the greatest hits thing, never did anything like this for a roulette but I have some bands in mind! Is it okay if I send it like.. Monday latest? Been a bit occupied
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:millahhhh
I'll think about the greatest hits thing, never did anything like this for a roulette but I have some bands in mind! Is it okay if I send it like.. Monday latest? Been a bit occupied
I'm also aiming for Monday so I guess ariich will just have to deal with that. :biggrin:
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Yep Monday is absolutely fine. If some people finish and send theirs earlier (Cyril) that'd be great so I can make a start, but let's say a deadline of Tuesday.
And just to make sure there are no misunderstandings, it's greatest hits from a single artist.
EDIT: Just noticed in a slight error in the ordering of my write-ups (and the scores within the write-ups). The scores in the ranking at the end were right. I've now corrected it!
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That Ben Howard score is really letting me down, but I'm glad youve enjoyed the other three reasonably well :smiley:
Jason Isbell is definitely my favorite songwriter at the moment and that album is probably, overall my favorite of his, but if I'd been paying more attention I would have saved him for the greatest hits round as he has some phenomenal songs on his other records.
I do have something else in mind though. Maybe a bit of a risk, but since you mentioned not having a lot of American country/folk in your library...
I should be able to send by the end of tomorrow.
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Oh cool!! I'm glad you liked that album so much dude. It's still kicking my ass. That's given me a fighting chance so hopefully I can pull off a hail Mary. Will send mine by tomorrow evening...
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dang, i'm gonna get cut :lol
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Sent :corn
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So I started with a first and then a second. Then I was last and now second to last. Nice. Should be right in the middle from here on out.
I'm pretty sure Loomis isn't on the Sanctuary record. I think he joined to tour but was never on a record.
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I'm pretty sure Loomis isn't on the Sanctuary record. I think he joined to tour but was never on a record.
Ah yeah you're right, looks like he joined just afterwards, then was still with them when they got back together, but left before they made a new album.
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Ok I have three submissions in already, which is great. Two of them are at opposite ends of the duration range. :lol
By the way there are no bonus points in this round, just the 4-10 scoring. I might still rate them out of 10, not sure yet, but I'll definitely be ranking them to produce scores.
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I think mine was just under 60 minutes. I didn't want to overwhelm you. :biggrin:
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mine is 70 minutes because all three releases from the band are meant to be listened to as one uninterrupted piece and i just didn't want to change that :lol
i guess maybe the very last track could be cut though. except then i'd be sending you literally all but one song from the band's discography. which seemed silly
anyways it's 50+ minutes shorter than what i sent you round 3 so
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My compilation is 42 minutes only
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Sent 57 minutes of stuff. There's actually at least one song off every full-length.
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Sent!
Only 45 minutes—no filler.
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Finalizing my song order, will send today.
EDIT: Sent. Probably not gonna make it past this round so I just hope our host doesn't hate it. :)
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You guys rock. 7 submissions in already, and still 2 days until the deadline.
Some titles are rather more creative than others, though I didn't actually ask for titles I suppose. :lol
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i think mine is really fitting for the way my greatest hits is structured, even if it's not very creative :P
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My actual title is the poop emoji
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omg you stole my title >:( >:( :censored >:(
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i think mine is really fitting for the way my greatest hits is structured, even if it's not very creative :P
"greatest"
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'cause they're all great, of course :neverusethis:
if you want to, you can consider that i sent just 4 songs
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'cause they're all great, of course :neverusethis:
if you want to, you can consider that i sent just 4 songs
I mean, technically it's their greatest hits, but technically it's also all their worst songs.
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yeah hence why my unique and clever title THAT KATT STOLE :censored
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Early owl gets the mouse sucka
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not when the six owls are roaming
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Yeah but the owlpha male doesn't need to roam, he knows his place is at the top :neverusethis:
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life has many doors - and winning ariich's roulette is not one of them, ed guy
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Rolf has no time for this! Observe the train, owl boy
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DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
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:3hourtour:
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Alright I'm sending in a few hours, sorry for the delay.
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look at you, delaying our hangman for so long like it was nothing
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I've sent
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Also just sent.
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Just waitin' for the train.
By the way, as I said I didn't ask for titles and they don't make any difference, but just for the fun of it and for hangman purposes, if you didn't provide a title or it was just "best of" or "greatest hits" I'm making one up from your submission message (either direct quotes or paraphrasing).
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Hangman will be just the song names and we have to figure out the artists, right? :corn
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Hangman will be just the song names and we have to figure out the artists, right? :corn
It will now.
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I s0nt some fucking dark music
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Give me the D
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I s0nt some fucking dark music
Not to me you didn't.
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ariich you can even use the non-quotation part of mine in the full title if you wish for maximum formality :neverusethis:
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I s0nt some fucking dark music
Not to me you didn't.
Oh right, turns out he emailed me for some reason instead of PMing me. Possibly because durnk.
Ok first round of hangman soon.
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Right, hangman.
About half the submissions had 8 songs each, while another had 7. So I'm limiting this to max 8 songs per artist. You'll get them in four batches (three 20s and a 19). Song titles only with the artist a "?" until you guess it. Then later on we'll do artists with the titles of the GH and who sent them.
Songs, batch 1
? – ___ _a__ ___d_
? – __d___ ___ ___ _______
? – _____: ___ _______ __ D___ __ ___ Da__
? – _a_______a _a_____
? – _____ _a___ __ ___ __a_
? – ___
? – ___ ___d_
? – ______ __ D_ A_ _____
? – ___ _____ ____
? – ___d D_____
? – _____ ____ __ ___ A____
? – ______ _____
? – ________
? – A _____a_d __a__ __a___
? – ____ a __da_ _____
? – ____
? – _a__
? – __d_ __ A____
? – ______
? – ____ _a___
Guessed letters: DA
EDIT: Forgot to give Cyril his D.
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Gimme A
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Updated above
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F please
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Oh man, not even half my songs are gonna show up in hangmang :corn
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How about a "u"
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You'll probably need more letter guesses than usual due to the lack of artist names at this stage! I won't cap vowels this time.
? – ___ _a__ ___d_
? – __d___ F__ ___ F______
? – _____: ___ _______ _f Du__ __ ___ Da__
? – _a__f____a _a_____
? – _____ _a___ _f _u_ __a_
? – _u_
? – ___ ___d_
? – ______ __ D_ A_ _____
? – ___ _____ ____
? – ___d D_____
? – _____ ____ __ ___ A____
? – ____u_ _____
? – ______u_
? – A ___u_a_d __a__ __a___
? – F___ a __da_ _____
? – ____
? – _a__
? – __d_ __ A____
? – ______
? – ____ _a___
Guessed letters: DAFU
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I'll take K :millahhhh
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:lol
Very few Ks, so I'm throwing in an S for you.
? – ___ _a__ ___ds
? – __d___ F__ ___ F______
? – _____: ___ _______ _f Dus_ __ ___ Da_k
? – _a__f____a _a_____
? – ___s_ _a__s _f _u_ S_a_
? – _u_
? – ___ ___ds
? – _____s __ D_ A_ _____
? – ___ _____ __s_
? – ___d D_s___
? – _____ __s_ __ ___ A____
? – ____us S____
? – ______us
? – A ___usa_d S_a__ S_a__s
? – F___ a __da_ S____
? – ____
? – _a__
? – __d_ __ A____
? – S_____
? – ____ _a__s
Guessed letters: DAFUKS
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I s0nt some fucking dark music
Not to me you didn't.
Oh right, turns out he emailed me for some reason instead of PMing me. Possibly because durnk.
Ok first round of hangman soon.
Oops :lol there I was being an idiot and wondering why I couldn’t include Elite in my PM, and why it showed my email address on the page..
T
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I almost guessed my own song name because I didn't remember it was the name to one of the songs on my greatest hits lol
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Wild Desire?
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show me the B!
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Wild Desire?
Nope, but a nice guess.
? – T__ _a__ B__ds
? – __d___ F__ T__ F______
? – __t__: T__ _______ _f Dust __ t__ Da_k
? – _a__f____a _a_t___
? – T__s_ Ta__s _f _u_ Sta_
? – _u_
? – T__ ___ds
? – T____s __ D_ At ____t
? – T__ _____ __st
? – ___d D_s__t
? – B____ __s_ t_ t__ Ab___
? – __b_us St___
? – ______us
? – A T__usa_d S_a__ S_a__s
? – F___ a T_da_ S____
? – ____
? – _a__
? – __d_ __ A____
? – S_____
? – ____ _a__s
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTB
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From a Tidal Sleep?
I recognize this name from somewhere but can't name the artist off the top of my head and it's not in the spirit of this hangman to look it up
_u_ could be Gun which is a CHVRCHES song most likely but it could be a lot of things too
update: i figured out where i recognized "From a Tidal Sleep" from (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50206.msg2359396#msg2359396) so yeah
that sure is a band that seems likely to do well with ariich
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Mobius Strip?
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Now we're getting somewhere.
Any more letters?
? – T__ _a__ B__ds
? – __d___ F__ Th_ F______
? – __t__: Th_ _______ _f Dust __ th_ Da_k
? – _a__f____a _a_t___
? – Th_s_ Ta__s _f _u_ Sta_
? – _u_
? – Th_ ___ds
? – Th___s __ D_ At ___ht
? – Th_ _____ __st
? – ___d D_s__t
? – B____ __s_ t_ th_ Ab___
? – Mobius Strip
? – ______us
? – A Th_usa_d S_a__ S_a__s
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
? – H___
? – _a__
? – __d_ __ A____
? – S_____
? – H___ _a__s
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBH
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How about an h
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Updated above.
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Below Rise to the Above by In Mourning by Luoto
I would've guessed this regardless of From a Tidal Sleep as I've got this in my roulette.
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Let's take a stab at some more
Two Lame Birds
Kidney for the Funeral
These Tales of Our Star
The Words
Things We Do at Might
Cold Desert
A Thousand Space Snails
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I think only one of mine made this batch.
Gimme an N to fix one of EVs guesses :P
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Gimme an N to fix one of EVs guesses :P
The Nords? :neverusethis:
Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
Batch 1
? – Too Many Birds
? – R_d_n_ F_r Th_ F__l_n_
? – _ntr_: Th_ L____n_ _f Dust _n th_ Dark
? – Th_s_ Tal_s _f _ur Sta_
? – Run
? – Th_ ___ds
? – Things We Do At Night
? – Th_ __rr_ L_st
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – _r____us
? – A Th_usand S_all S_a__s
? – H___
? – _a__
? – R_d_ __ Arr__
? – S_r_n_
? – H_l_ _a__s
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBHNRL
Batch 2
? – Di______i___ __ Li_i__ _l___
? – ___ _______l _____d
? – __ll__ ______i_
? – _i__li__
? – Li__li__
? – _ll ________ ___ ____ __ ____ _____
? – ___i_l_
? – _________
? – D__i___d ___ D_____
? – _ll___ __ ___ _____
? – D____ ________ I
? – _l___ _____
? – __li__ __ _____
? – ____
? – _____ ___ _il____
? – ___ ___ __ _ _____i__ _i_d
? – ___i___d
? – ____ ___d______, _______ __il__
? – _i__
? – I ____ ___'__ _____
Guessed letters: DIL
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Too many birds?
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Can I get a large order of Ds in batch #2 please
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I blame autocoreect, meant to write "night"
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Can I get a large order of Ds in batch #2 please
With a side order of I if you please
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Updated above. Feel free to guess a letter in each batch at the same time.
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Kings of Leon - California Waiting
Batch 1 is unusually difficult, though having another artist out should help.
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Yep, again updated above.
And yeah it's difficult without the hangman on the artists, which is why more letter guesses are needed.
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Kings of Leon is 100% Katt
Gimme R in Hangman 1
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Give me L in both hangmans if possible
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I agonized over which songs to send and now I'm thinking I should've swapped maybe 5-6 songs with the songs I originally intended to send instead of overthinking it. Fudge. Oh well...
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Yep, again updated above.
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Riding for the Feeling
R for batch 2
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Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
Batch 1
? – Too Many Birds
? – Riding For The Feeling
? – Intr_: Th_ L___in_ _f Dust in th_ Dark
? – Th_s_ Tal_s _f _ur Sta_
? – Run
? – Th_ ___ds
? – Things We Do At Night
? – Th_ __rr_ List
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – _r__i_us
? – A Th_usand S_all S_a__s
? – H___
? – _a__
? – Ride My Arrow
? – S_rin_
? – H_l_ _a__s
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBHNRLI
Batch 2
? – Di__ra__i___ __ Li_i__ Al___
? – ___ _____ral _____d
? – __ll__ _____ai_
? – _i_ali__
? – Li__li__
? – All ________ Ar_ _r__ __ ____ __a__
? – A_rial_
? – _a__a__a_
? – D__i___d __r Da_a__
? – All_r_ __ ___ _ar__
? – D_a__ ________ I
? – _la__ ___r_
? – __li__ __ _r___
? – ____
? – _____ ___ _il____
? – ___ Ar_ __ a ___r_i__ _i_d
? – __ri___d
? – _a__ _a_d__a___, _ar____ __il__
? – _i__
? – I ____ ___'r_ _a___
Guessed letters: DILRA
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A in 2
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y'all weirdos trying to solve 2 when 1 has barely anything solved :lol
gimme I in 1
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Ride my arrow?
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Serene
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Ride my arrow?
Yep
Serene
Nope
Updated above.
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Give me a Y on the first one
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Intro: The Longing of Dust In the Dark
EDIT: Ehh, I'm not even sure of this one. This is frustrating :lol
EDIT 2: Oh, Allure of the Earth. That's Woods of Ypres!
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The Woods?
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Intro: The Longing of Dust In the Dark
EDIT: Ehh, I'm not even sure of this one. This is frustrating :lol
EDIT 2: Oh, Allure of the Earth. That's Woods of Ypres!
You guys are being good sports in not googling things, so I'll be a little generous and give it to you when you're close enough like this.
Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
?:
Woods of Ypres – Intro: The Looming of Dust in the Dark
Woods of Ypres – Allure of the Earth
Batch 1
? – Too Many Birds
? – Riding For The Feeling
? – These Tales of Our Stay
? – Run
? – The Woods
? – Things We Do At Night
? – Th_ __rry List
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – _r__i_us
? – A Th_usand S_all S_a__s
? – H___
? – _a__
? – Ride My Arrow
? – S_rin_
? – H_ly _a__s
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBHNRLIY
Batch 2
? – Di__ra__i_n_ __ Li_in_ Al_n_
? – ___ _____ral ____nd
? – __ll__ ___n_ain
? – _inali__
? – Li__lin_
? – All ________ Ar_ _r__ __ ____ __a__
? – Aerials
? – _an_a__an
? – D__i_n_d __r Da_a__
? – D_a__ _____n__ I
? – _la__ ___r_
? – __li__ __ _r___
? – ____
? – _n___ ___ _il_n__
? – ___ Ar_ __ a ___rnin_ _ind
? – __ri___d
? – _a__ _and__a___, _arn___ __il__
? – Nin_
? – I ____ ___'r_ _a___
Guessed letters: DILRAN
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These Tales Of Our Stay
The Ferry List?
Aerials
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Not Ferry, but otherwise yep.
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The ones that are missing are starting to bother me. A thousand small what? Holy what?
Give me an n on the second one
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The ones that are missing are starting to bother me. A thousand small what? Holy what?
Well maybe if you guessed some more letters!
Second batch updated.
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Nine
Circus Maximus? I think that's only an album not a song name tho
The Art of a ??? Mind
I should know what that title is/where it comes from but I don't
Could also be totally off
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Nine is right, but it's not CM.
"The Art of a" is right, but the last word isn't Mind.
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Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
?:
Woods of Ypres – Intro: The Looming of Dust in the Dark
Woods of Ypres – Allure of the Earth
Batch 1
? – Too Many Birds
? – Riding For The Feeling
? – These Tales of Our Stay
? – Run
? – The Woods
? – Things We Do At Night
? – Th_ __rry List
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – _r__i_us
? – A Th_usand S_all S_a__s
? – H___
? – _a__
? – Ride My Arrow
? – S_rin_
? – H_ly _a__s
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBHNRLIY
Batch 2
? – Di__ra__i_n_ __ Li_in_ Al_n_
? – ___ _____ral ____nd
? – __ll__ ___n_ain
? – _inali__
? – Li__lin_
? – All ________ Ar_ _r__ __ ____ __a__
? – Aerials
? – _an_a__an
? – D__i_n_d __r Da_a__
? – D_a__ _____n__ I
? – _la__ ___r_
? – __li__ __ _r___
? – ____
? – _n___ ___ _il_n__
? – ___ Ar_ __ a ___rnin_ _ind
? – __ri___d
? – _a__ _and__a___, _arn___ __il__
? – Nine
? – I ____ ___'r_ _a___
Guessed letters: DILRAN
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Round 5 first impression
1. I wouldn't say I love all of this, but it's definitely made me want to check out a couple of the albums represented here.
2. Not entirely my normal thing, and not quite sure about all the song choices, but I love the energy and there’s some cracking stuff.
3. Nice groove and vibe, a warm sound and some gorgeous moments.
4. Atmospheric and moody. Wasn’t sure at first but once I got into the vibe I found myself liking it a lot (and possibly helped by the songs getting stronger).
5. Atmospheric and moody. Consistently good throughout, though never seems to quite get going.
6. Somewhat similar to previous submissions of yours, but I don’t think I find it as interesting.
7. Not heard the band before but been meaning to check them out for a few months. They sound excellent.
8. This went in some surprising directions. Production not always the strongest but some wonderful moments.
9. There was one dud here, but otherwise I liked it quite a lot more than I thought I might based on what I knew of this artist.
10. Alternative yet accessible. Very catchy at times. Surprised I've not even heard of this artist before.
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3, 8, and 10 are the only ones I can even imagine being mine honestly and they're all decently positive? I'd say #8 most likely. #10 seems like it could easily be Kings of Leon.
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3, 4 or 5 I would say
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Oh boy. Any of 1 through 6 I think. Should've thrown more of the slow emotional songs in there I think instead of making room for the more upbeat stuff!
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oh yeah I'd guess Woods is either Tomi or Puppies, in that order
Riding for the Feeling is Bill Callahan and that's seneca's
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Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
Kings of Leon – Manhattan
Tomi:
Woods of Ypres – Intro: The Looming of Dust in the Dark
Woods of Ypres – Allure of the Earth
Seneca:
Bill Callahan – Riding For The Feeling
Bill Callahan – One Fine Morning
Batch 1-2
? – Too Many Birds
? – These Tales of Our Stay
? – Run
? – The Woods
? – Things We Do At Night
? – Th_ __rry List
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – _r__i_us
? – A Th_usand S_all S_a__s
? – Home
? – _a__
? – Ride My Arrow
? – Spring
? – H_ly _a__s
? – Distractions of Living Alone
? – Th_ S___tral B_y_nd
? – H_ll__ __untain
? – Finality
? – Lifeline
? – All Th_u_hts Ar_ _r_y T_ S___ B_ast
? – Aerials
? – Designed for Damage
? – D_ath S__u_n__ I
? – Bla_k St_r_
? – __li_y _f Truth
? – H___
? – _n__y th_ Sil_n__
? – The Art of a Mourning Kind
? – Stri___d
? – Fake Handshakes, Earnest Smiles
? – Nine
? – I Hope You're Happy
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBHNRLIY
Batch 3-4
? – _______
? – D_____
? – ____ ___ ___ __ _____
? – ___ _____ __d__
? – ___________ _______
? – ____ __
? – __________
? – _________
? – D__d
? – ________
? – _______ ________
? – ____ __ __
? – ____ __ __ ____d
? – ______
? – ____ __d _____
? – ____ _______ ____ __ _ ______ _____d
? – _____d ___ _____
? – _____ ___ __ D___ _____
? – _______
? – _______________
? – I Was Buried In Mount Pleasant Cemetery
? – ___ ____ __d ___ _______ __ _____
? – D_____
? – ____ ___ _____
? – ____
? – ______d_
? – _________ __d___
? – ____d_ __ ____
? – ___ _____d __ ___ ____
? – _____
? – _____d __ _ _____d
? – ____
? – _____ ____ ____
? – ___ _____
? – _____
? – ____ ____ ________
? – ___________
? – _____________
Guessed letters: D
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Home
Shrine
probably
Woods of Ypres is definitely one of the Atmospheric and Moody comments.
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Home yes
Shrine now
Have decided to merge batches 1 and 2, and add a combined 3 and 4. All hangman songs are now up in my previous post.
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Distractions of Living Alone
Lifeline
Manhattan which I think is Kings
Designed for Damage?
Blank Stare
The Art of a Mourning Kind?
Fake Handshakes, Earnest Smiles
I Hope You're Happy
Spring
Incredibly upset that you did not include ? - _ off my compilation in hangman
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I'm guessing mine is either 1, 2, 9, or 10.
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I would like to have the D in the combinated 3-4 please
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Incredibly upset that you did not include ? - _ off my compilation in hangman
:lol I did consider it, but there were just so many tracks and lots of good titles.
Anyway all correct guesses, updated above.
EDIT: Actually no you got one wrong.
Also
I would like to have the D in the combinated 3-4 please
Oh I'll give you a D in the combinated 3-4. :eyebrows:
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I Was Buried In Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Mines almost 100% impression 3 or 4
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One Fine Morning from Bill Callahan in the second hangmanen
that's the one I was looking for, great tune
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I Was Buried In Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Impressive to get that from a single D. :lol
All updated.
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no it's a Woods of Ypres song that got sent a lot a few years back :P
Policy of Truth?
Enjoy the Silence?
I wanna see the C in the first one tbh
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Let's do O in both parts
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Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
Kings of Leon – Manhattan
Tomi:
Woods of Ypres – Intro: The Looming of Dust in the Dark
Woods of Ypres – Allure of the Earth
Woods of Ypres – I Was Buried In Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Seneca:
Bill Callahan – Riding For The Feeling
Bill Callahan – One Fine Morning
Batch 1-2
? – Too Many Birds
? – These Tales of Our Stay
? – Run
? – The Woods
? – Things We Do At Night
? – The Worry List
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – Precious
? – A Thousand Small Spaces
? – Home
? – _a__
? – Ride My Arrow
? – Spring
? – Holy Ca__s
? – Distractions of Living Alone
? – The Spectral Beyond
? – Hollow Mountain
? – Finality
? – Lifeline
? – All Thoughts Are Prey To Some Beast
? – Aerials
? – Designed for Damage
? – Death Sequence I
? – Black Storm
? – Policy of Truth
? – Home
? – Enjoy the Silence
? – The Art of a Mourning Kind
? – Stripped
? – Fake Handshakes, Earnest Smiles
? – Nine
? – I Hope You're Happy
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBHNRLIYCO
Batch 3-4
? – _n__n__
? – D____n
? – ____ On_ ___ No _____
? – ___ _____ _odg_
? – ________o__ ___o___
? – ____ __
? – __________
? – _________
? – Dead
? – _o_o____
? – _______ __n_____
? – _o__ On __
? – ____ __ __ _o__d
? – ____g_
? – ____ _nd O___n
? – _o__ On____o _o_n __ _ ______ G_o_nd
? – ____nd ___ _____
? – N____ ___ __ Do_n _g__n
? – ___o___
? – O_______ono____
? – ___ _o__ _nd ___ ___n___ o_ _o___
? – D_o___
? – _n_o ___ O___n
? – O___
? – _o___od_
? – _____n___ _nd_ng
? – ____d_ o_ _o__
? – ___ _____d o_ ___ ____
? – _____
? – ____nd o_ _ ____nd
? – _o__
? – _____ ___n G___
? – ___ N____
? – __o__
? – ____ ____ ________
? – ___________
? – _n_________on
Guessed letters: DONG
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The Worry List?
The Spectral Beyond
Precious
Black Storm
Hollow Mountain
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Ja.
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Howl
Dead
either of these could be by basically anyone
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Death Sequence I
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Howl
Dead
either of these could be by basically anyone
No Howl, but actually I realise I had two songs (by different artists) called Home, which I guess is the same point. :lol
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A thousand small spaces
All thoughts are prey to some beast
Stripped
Holy capes?
Let's do N in the second batch
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Give me a g in the second batch
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Holy capes?
Almost, but not quite.
Just two song titles left in the first set.
Probably later today I'll add the usual style of hangman for artists and compilation names. Might help link some songs to artists.
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Holy Caves?
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Artists and compilation titles
?: ___e __t__e_ – ___ _______e W______
?: T_e _______ ____e ____ – __ E_e____ W_t_ T_e _______ ____e ____
?: __e__e___ ____t – W__ W__te T__e ___ __t W___ W_e_ _ew W___ __ T____?
Katt: Kings of Leon – W_e_ t_e W____ ___e __w_
Luoto: In Mourning – T_e _t___ __ _______ __
?: __te – ___e ___ ___e _______ ___ ___ T___ _____
?: _e_e__e ___e – ___e__ W_t_ ____e_ W____
Seneca: Bill Callahan – ___ _ee_ ___e ____t__
Tomi: Woods Of Ypres – _ ___t ___e ___ W__'t __te T___
?: _ _w___ __ T_e ___ – ____t __t T____ __ __ _______t___ T_t_e ___
Guessed letters: WET
Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
Kings of Leon – Manhattan
Tomi:
Woods of Ypres – Intro: The Looming of Dust in the Dark
Woods of Ypres – Allure of the Earth
Woods of Ypres – I Was Buried In Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Seneca:
Bill Callahan – Riding For The Feeling
Bill Callahan – One Fine Morning
Songs, set 1
? – Too Many Birds
? – These Tales of Our Stay
? – Run
? – The Woods
? – Things We Do At Night
? – The Worry List
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – Precious
? – A Thousand Small Spaces
? – Home
? – Wa_e
? – Ride My Arrow
? – Spring
? – Holy Caves
? – Distractions of Living Alone
? – The Spectral Beyond
? – Hollow Mountain
? – Finality
? – Lifeline
? – All Thoughts Are Prey To Some Beast
? – Aerials
? – Designed for Damage
? – Death Sequence I
? – Black Storm
? – Policy of Truth
? – Home
? – Enjoy the Silence
? – The Art of a Mourning Kind
? – Stripped
? – Fake Handshakes, Earnest Smiles
? – Nine
? – I Hope You're Happy
Guessed letters: DAFUKSTBHNRLIYCOWE
Songs, set 2
? – _n__nt_
? – D___en
? – T___ One ___ No _e__t
? – T_e _____ _odge
? – ______e_o__ ___o___
? – __te _e
? – ___e___e__
? – ____t__e_
? – Dead
? – _o_o____
? – _e_____ _ent__e_
? – Wo__ On _e
? – W__t __ We _o__d
? – _e__ge
? – ___e _nd O_e_n
? – _o__ Ont___o Town __ _ ______ G_o_nd
? – _e__nd t_e W_ee_
? – Ne_e_ _et _e Down _g__n
? – ___o_e_
? – O_e_____ono__t_
? – T_e _oet _nd t_e ___nte_ o_ _o___
? – D_o_e_
? – _nto t_e O_e_n
? – O_e_
? – _o_e_od_
? – __te_n_te End_ng
? – ____d_ o_ _o_e
? – T_e _____d o_ t_e ____
? – W____
? – ___end o_ _ ___end
? – _o_e
? – T__e_ _e_n G___
? – T_e N___e
? – __ow_
? – E___ ___e ___t____
? – E_e_t____t_
? – _n____e__t_on
Guessed letters: WET DONG
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W
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give me the E in general
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T for Titles
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Updated above with WET DONG.
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Enjoy the Silence and Stripped are Depeche Mode.
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Artists and compilation titles
?: ___e __t__er – _a_ _a___a_e War____
?: T_e ___s__s ___se _a__ – A_ E_e____ W_t_ T_e ___s__s ___se _a__
?: _re__e___ _r__t – W__ Waste T_me Sa_ __t W_r_ W_e_ _ew W_r_ __ Tr___?
Katt: Kings of Leon – When the Walls Come Down
Luoto: In Mourning – T_e St_rm _s _______ __
?: __te – ___e ___ _a_e __s____ __r A__ T__s S__ar
?: Depeche Mode – A__e_s W_t_ S___er W___s
Seneca: Bill Callahan – You Need More Country
Tomi: Woods Of Ypres – I Just Hope You Won't Hate This
Train ft. Elite: A Swarm Of The Sun – ____t __t T__s_ __ M_ __m___at___ T_t_e __s
Guessed letters: WETSRAM
Luoto:
In Mourning – From a Tidal Sleep
In Mourning – Below Rise to the Above
In Mourning – The Black Lodge
In Mourning – Colossus
In Mourning – Fire and Ocean
In Mourning – The Poet and the Painter of Souls
Katt:
Kings of Leon – California Waiting
Kings of Leon – Manhattan
Tomi:
Woods of Ypres – Intro: The Looming of Dust in the Dark
Woods of Ypres – Allure of the Earth
Woods of Ypres – I Was Buried In Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Woods of Ypres – Your Ontario Town is a Burial Ground
Seneca:
Bill Callahan – Riding For The Feeling
Bill Callahan – One Fine Morning
Train ft. Elite:
A Swarm of the Sun – This One Has No Heart
?:
Depeche Mode – Enjoy the Silence
Depeche Mode – Stripped
Unmatched songs, set 1 (complete)
? – Too Many Birds
? – These Tales of Our Stay
? – Run
? – The Woods
? – Things We Do At Night
? – The Worry List
? – Cold Desert
? – Mobius Strip
? – Precious
? – A Thousand Small Spaces
? – Home
? – Wave
? – Ride My Arrow
? – Spring
? – Holy Caves
? – Distractions of Living Alone
? – The Spectral Beyond
? – Hollow Mountain
? – Finality
? – Lifeline
? – All Thoughts Are Prey To Some Beast
? – Aerials
? – Designed for Damage
? – Death Sequence I
? – Black Storm
? – Policy of Truth
? – Home
? – The Art of a Mourning Kind
? – Fake Handshakes, Earnest Smiles
? – Nine
? – I Hope You're Happy
Unmatched songs, set 2
? – Infants
? – Driven
? – Blasphemous Rumours
? – Hate Me
? – ___ear_ess
? – Scratches
? – Dead
? – Secular Ventures
? – Work On Me
? – What If We Could
? – Refuge
? – Behind the Wheel
? – Never Let Me Down Again
? – ___o_e_
? – Obe__s__ono__th
? – Dro_er
? – Into the Ocean
? – Over
? – Somebody
? – Alternate Ending
? – Shards of Love
? – The Ba__ad o_ the H___
? – WA__S
? – Friend of a Friend
? – _o_e
? – Ta_er _ean G_r_
? – The Nurse
? – Crows
? – Ea_h ___e _r_t__a_
? – E_e_tr___t_
? – Incarceration
Guessed letters: WET DONGS BRAH
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S in 2 and titles :lol
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The Black Lodge (In Mourning I think)
Never Let Me Down Again
Behind the Wheel
Into the Ocean
Over
Alternate Ending
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All updated.
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Colossus
Not keep of kalessin tho so I dunno it :P
Somebody
The Nurse
The Poet and the Painter of Souls?
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All good. :tup
Do you want any more letters to add to your WET DONGS?
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Give me the R everywhere :yarr
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B in 2
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Updated above.
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A Swarm of the Sun - This One Has No Heart
Uhhhh Train maybe?
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Yessir
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Blasphemous Rumours
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Fire and Ocean
Crows
Work on Me
Swords of Hope (or Love?)
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Love yes, Swords no
EDIT: Also, have decided on top 2 (though not yet sure which one wins the round) and probably 3rd place, and also which one is in last place (I still like it, but it's a step below the others). Everything in between, I have a vague sense of ranking but it's tough, they're all rather good.
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they're all rather good.
Honestly that's all I hope for when sending music in a roulette. If the host enjoyed something that I brought to their attention, mission accomplished. :metal
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I hope you enjoy every last minute of the 70 I sent you, yes :corn
Even if I get last place and get eliminated. I basically lazy-moded this one anyways considering how well all the band's releases already flow naturally. Diverse and dynamic and hopefully at least somewhat engaging :P
I dunno, I've only very recently been enjoying the band's stuff myself but I'm digging the hell out of it so.
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okay, give me every A you can muster
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All In Mourning songs have been guessed, and I'm a little surprised only three have been correctly applied :P That said one of them has gone missing from the unmatched songs.
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Woods of Ypres - Your Ontario Town is a Buried Ground
Driven?
Colossus, Fire and Ocean, and The Poet and the Painter of Souls are all In Mourning. Wish I had thought to send them :( Great band!
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I know exactly two In Mourning songs and I matched both of them already
Well Black Lodge is not Black Lodge Revisited I think but same difference
also
Friend of a Friend
Shards of Hope
Refuge
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All In Mourning songs have been guessed, and I'm a little surprised only three have been correctly applied :P That said one of them has gone missing from the unmatched songs.
Oops, I accidentally overwrote both sets 1 and 2 with just set 2 in the latest post. Will fix now.
EDIT: Ok all fixed and updated. There are two unmatched In Mourning songs from the first set that had vanished.
EDIT 2:
Shards of Hope
Combine this with your previous guess for this one, and you'll have it.
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Shards of Swords :neverusethis:
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I see Aerials and automatically think someone sent System of a Down. Which would be awesome, but I know they are banned.
Wait, did someone send Amon Amarth?
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I see Aerials and automatically think someone sent System of a Down. Which would be awesome, but I know they are banned.
Wait, did someone send Amon Amarth?
You realize there are artists in the beginning of the hangman, right? :biggrin:
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I see Aerials and automatically think someone sent System of a Down. Which would be awesome, but I know they are banned.
Wait, did someone send Amon Amarth?
You realize there are artists in the beginning of the hangman, right? :biggrin:
I love how everyone is just ignoring that bit.
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Infants
What if We Could
Shards of BONE (no Love)
The Ballad of the ???
Love (or Hope) (or BONE)
Incarceration
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Secular Ventures
Hate Me
Scratches
M in the artists hangman
I Must Hope You Won't Hate This
When the Walls Come Down
You Need More Country?
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H in 2
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You Need More Country?
Come on dude, the world has had enough with British imperialism. Don't encourage them
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I see Aerials and automatically think someone sent System of a Down. Which would be awesome, but I know they are banned.
Wait, did someone send Amon Amarth?
You realize there are artists in the beginning of the hangman, right? :biggrin:
I totally missed that :lol
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You Need More Country?
Come on dude, the world has had enough with British imperialism. Don't encourage them
*invades Argentina*
Almost all guesses were correct or close enough that I'll give it to you. Updated above.
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Relistening to Folie right now and this is definitely better than 7.5, review it again :neverusethis:
I can't make out any song titles but that's okay because nobody seems to have any clue what I sent still
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I have no idea what anybody sent except myself. :neverusethis:
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I think I'm probably going to be ready to post results tonight to be honest so you'll get all the answers then. Work and commute patterns this week have allowed a LOT of listening, nobody sent me a double album this time and a lot of you stuck to the 45 minute ish mark, so thanks for that.
Just need to finish collecting infinity stones doing write-ups and then should be good to erase half of you from existence post results.
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Erase me, daddy Thanos
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In terms of the five people surviving, it's a pretty nice even split of heroes and villains, in keeping with the name of the roulette.
EDIT: Of course, people might have different interpretations of who's a hero and who's a villain. :P
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Soon I'm gonna be
Dead
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Soon I'm gonna be
Dead
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ROUND 5 RESULTS
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Luoto
In Mourning – The Storm is Building Up
Tracks: 1. Colossus; 2. From a Tidal Sleep; 3. Fire and Ocean; 4. Below Rise to the Above; 5. Black Storm; 6. The Poet and the Painter of Souls; 7. The Art of a Mourning Kind; 8. The Black Lodge
First impression: Not heard the band before but been meaning to check them out for a few months. They sound excellent.
Final opinion: You really are on a roll! I've been interested in checking these guys out since I noticed the DTF thread that had "FFO Insomnium" in the title. But I decided to hold off as I had other stuff to check out, plus a roulette coming up. Very much a brand of melodic death metal that's right up my alley - powerful and heavy, but atmospheric and with some gorgeous harmonies and good use of clean vocals. The song from the new album sounds brilliant, as do the songs from The Weight of Oceans. The songs from the album in between sound really good musically - the production is kind of odd, but things like that are more noticeable in a compilation so might work better on the album. The older material sounds solid too, a little less exciting but still strong. Great stuff all over. Congrats on further strengthening your lead.
Approx rating: 8.5–9/10
Score: 10 points
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Clortho
Blue October – “Bad Language Warning”
Tracks: 1. Into the Ocean; 2. Calling You; 3. Hate Me; 4. Inner Glow; 5. What If We Could; 6. X Amount of Words; 7. Somebody; 8. Dirt Room; 9. The Worry List; 10. Bleed Out; 11. Things We Do At Night; 12. I Want It; 13. Home; 14. The End; 15. I Hope You're Happy
First impression: Alternative yet accessible. Very catchy at times. Surprised I've not even heard of this artist before.
Final opinion: You should get an award for most inconsistent - top two or bottom two but nothing in between. Thankfully you're back on form with this one. Literally never heard of these guys, but I'm loving them. Accessible but quirky, and just really enjoyable all round with some bloody good choruses. Lots of variety of styles (within a general sort of punky alt-rock genre) but very consistent in both quality and sound, such that it works really well as a compilation with no obvious albums it's drawn from being stronger than the others. I'll definitely be taking some time to delve into all these albums once the roulette is over.
Approx rating: 8.5/10
Score: 9.5 points
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Puppies
Depeche Mode – Angels With Silver Wings
Tracks: 1. Behind the Wheel; 2. A Question of Lust; 3. Policy of Truth; 4. Never Let Me Down Again; 5. A Question of Time; 6. Stripped; 7. Enjoy the Silence; 8. Walking In My Shoes; 9. Precious; 10. Home; 11. It's No Good; 12. Blasphemous Rumours
First impression: There was one dud here, but otherwise I liked it quite a lot more than I thought I might based on what I knew of this artist.
Final opinion: The only Depeche Mode song I really knew before this was Everything Counts, which is fine, but never interested me enough to check them out properly. Turns out they're great! The only song that hasn't really clicked for me is A Question of Lust, but the rest are fab. There's a lovely moody vibe to their music that I hadn't appreciated before, or expected really. I can definitely hear the influence on Ulver's Assassination of Julius Caesar and, aside from the vocals which are definitely not as interesting as Garm's, most of what I love about that album I really like about these songs too. Thank you for getting me to check them out!
Approx rating: 8/10
Score: 8.5 points
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Cyril
The Physics House Band – An Evening With The Physics House Band
Tracks: Literally their entire discography in chronological order, wtf.
First impression: Not entirely my normal thing, and not quite sure about all the song choices, but I love the energy and there’s some cracking stuff.
Final opinion: I was perhaps a little misleading with the first impression, but then you played fast and loose with the rules so no regrets. :P As you know (and I pointed out in the last round), instrumental prog isn't an easy sell for me, but these guys do it great. Really dynamic, surprising, mostly serious but with a certain playfulness - quite jazzy in approach even if not especially jazzy musically. Top notch playing, and I like the overall sound - it's kind of big but not in your face. Not all the tracks are great, and so I do think you probably could have refined this a bit, but it's not often an entire 3 album discography can fit on a disc so I can see the attraction. And the music is mostly excellent so you got away with it.
Approx rating: 8/10
Score: 7.5 points
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Nekov ft. King
Kyte – “Hope You Have Insulin For All This Sugar”
Tracks: 1. These Tales of Our Stay; 2. Designed for Damage; 3. Scratches; 4. Secular Ventures; 5. Each Life Critical; 6. Friend of a Friend; 7. Fake Handshakes, Earnest Smiles; 8. Aerials
First impression: Nice groove and vibe, a warm sound and some gorgeous moments.
Final opinion: Your best submission since round 1, this is great indie with some lovely synth pop thrown in. Quite catchy and poppy at times, which combine nicely with real post-rock vibes in the way some songs build up and down. It's also another good example of a nice variety of styles but enough consistency and good song ordering to make this work really well as a compilation. The opener isn't the most exciting overall, but it has a great crescendo and works wonderfully as an intro. I'm particularly digging some of the memorable choruses, especially in Friend of a Friend and Aerials, which I note are from the same album and so this will probably be my starting point to check out.
Approx rating: 8/10
Score: 7 points
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Tomi
Woods Of Ypres – “I Just Hope You Won't Hate This”
Tracks: 1. Intro: The Looming of Dust in the Dark; 2. Allure of the Earth; 3. Your Ontario Town is a Burial Ground; 4. Distractions of Living Alone; 5. I Was Buried in Mount Pleasant Cemetery; 6. Shards of Love; 7. Finality; 8. Alternate Ending
First impression: Atmospheric and moody. Wasn’t sure at first but once I got into the vibe I found myself liking it a lot (and possibly helped by the songs getting stronger).
Final opinion: Congrats - I don’t hate it! This was the second compilation I listened to, and at that point I thought it could end up ranking high, so its placement here is down to the strength of the round. You're not the only one to go chronological, and I think it works well here. I do think the overall quality is higher once it gets a few songs in, partly helped by the stronger production in the last album or two especially, but the early songs are still good and the flow of it is an interesting journey through the band's albums. The music is very melancholy and the lyrical themes even more so, which could have been overbearing but it's consistently tasteful and quite delicate at times. Looking forward to checking these albums out.
Approx rating: 8/10
Score: 6.5 points
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Evermind ft. Lucases
Frequency Drift – Why Waste Time Say Lot Word When Few Word Do Trick?
Tracks: 1. Dead; 2. Electricity; 3. Run; 4. Wave; 5. Driven; 6. Nine; 7. Crows; 8. Come
First impression: This went in some surprising directions. Production not always the strongest but some wonderful moments.
Final opinion: This band sounds quite hard to pin down, but very interesting as a result. The production isn't always great - the guitars are a little weak sometimes, and the vocals occasionally sound a bit detached from the accompaniment. I think it's mainly in some of the older material really because some of it sounds great. The singer herself is really good, if it was even the same one throughout, and a lot of the music has strings and wind instruments featuring prominently in really nice and/or unusual ways. A lot of my favourite moments are when they move away from rock and create some really cool sounds, like Eastern or medieval stylings. They sound like a really unique band.
Approx rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6 points
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Train ft. Elite
A Swarm Of The Sun – “Don’t Put Tipsy In My Compilation Title Pls”
Tracks: 1. The Woods; 2. Lifeline; 3. This One Has No Heart; 4. Refuge; 5. Infants; 6. The Nurse; 7. Incarceration
First impression: Atmospheric and moody. Consistently good throughout, though never seems to quite get going.
Final opinion: On reflection, I don't think I was right to say that it never gets going, because actually there are some wonderful tracks or parts of tracks. The only thing holding it back for me is that I find the compilation inconsistent. Lifeline and Incarceration are genuinely amazing. The Woods works great as an epic opener, and has some cracking bits. The rest is varying degrees of decent but none of it excites me much, and a couple of tracks just seem to plod along a bit. I'll definitely be checking out at least a couple of the albums though but I’m not in a rush to explore them all.
Approx rating: 7.5/10
Score: 5.5 points
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Katt
Kings of Leon – When the Walls Come Down
Tracks: 1. California Waiting; 2. Velvet Snow; 3. Taper Jean Girl; 4. Knocked Up; 5. McFearless; 6. Arizona; 7. Manhattan; 8. Notion; 9. Cold Desert; 10. Coming Back Again; 11. Work on Me; 12. Waste a Moment; 13. Over; 14. Wild; 15. WALLS
First impression: I wouldn't say I love all of this, but it's definitely made me want to check out a couple of the albums represented here.
Final opinion: You sent me Come Around Sundown last time, and I liked it quite a bit but didn't love it, awarding it a 7.5. Feels about the same here overall, although there's a lot of variation and so there's some real potential. Like Tomi, you've gone chronological and I like that journey. Problem here is that I don't find the early material interesting, so it starts a bit of a drag. It gradually gets more interesting, and then where I really do get into it is at the songs from Only By the Night. I really like all three, and I'm also aware that this is the album their two big hits are on. The next two tracks are less interesting again, but then the songs from Walls also stand out as pretty great. So that's two albums you've made me very much want to explore, just the rest of the compilation doesn't really do it for me.
Approx rating: 7.5/10
Score: 5 points
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Seneca
Bill Callahan – “You Need More Country”
Tracks: 1. Drover; 2.Spring; 3. One Fine Morning; 4. Ride My Arrow; 5. Too Many Birds; 6. All Thoughts Are Prey to Some Beast; 7. Riding for the Feeling; 8. The Ballad of the Hulk
First impression: Somewhat similar to previous submissions of yours, but I don’t think I find it as interesting.
Final opinion: I do feel a little bad about placing this last, but from quite early on I was pretty sure I would. Which isn't at all to say that I don't like it. Between the music and the lyrics, he seems to often paint quite an evocative picture. I especially like Drover, which has quite a dark emotionality to it, and kind of wish there was more of that. The rest is pleasant and thoughtful, some of it’s very good but some of the songs are a little dry and I don't generally find his voice very interesting. Compared with Jason Isbell from the last round, Callahan’s singing doesn't fill me with feelings in the same way. Interested to hear an album though, and will probably check out Apocalypse as that seems to have my favourites from this collection.
Approx rating: 7/10
Score: 4 points
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Scores after Round 5:
1. (=) Luoto = 7.0 + 7.0 + 11.0 + 10.5 + 10.0 = 45.5
2. (^) Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 + 4.5 + 9.5 = 40.5
3. (^) Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 + 9.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 = 39.0
4. (v) Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 + 11.0 + 6.5 = 38.5
5. (^) Cyril = 9.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 7.5 = 37.5
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6. (v) Evermind ft. Lucases = 5.0 + 9.5 + 10.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 = 37.0
7. (v) Train ft. Elite = 9.5 + 8.5 + 9.0 + 4.0 + 5.5 = 36.5
8. (=) Seneca = 8.5 + 4.5 + 8.5 + 8.0 + 4.0 = 33.5
9=(=) Katt = 6.5 + 6.0 + 5.5 + 9.5 + 5.0 = 32.5
9=(^) Nekov ft. King = 10.0 + 4.0 + 6.5 + 5.0 + 7.0 = 32.5
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A toast to the fallen heroes (and villains)! A look through your scores shows how you all sent me some great stuff - every one of you sent me at least two albums/artists that I rated 8/10 or higher, as well as a bunch of stuff that I rated lower but am still really grateful to have discovered and some of which I'll explore further. Thanks so much for taking part, and for introducing me to so much cool music. :metal
So that just leaves two heroes (Squirrel Girl and Moomintroll), two villains (Lex Luthor and Garfield - yes he’s definitely a villain), and one anti-hero (Venom). Good luck! Back to normal album submissions for the next two rounds.
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That's about what I figured. What surprises me is that the songs from Only By The Night and WALLS got your interest. That's really cool. Based on that, I think you will actually really enjoy Only By The Night, so I would go check that out whenever you have some time. WALLS is their most contemporary and stripped down sounding. I don't really like their first two albums much at all - those songs are, save a couple others, the only ones I like from them. But everything from Because of the Times through the present is just *chef fingers*.
Thanks for letting me play, this was really fun! I always love sending more than one song from a given artist especially when I can show how they've changed over time.
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I honestly have literally nothing planned past this round because I wasn't really going into this expecting to get past round 5 especially after how the points looked last round. Oops
Glad you liked it anyways! I considered cutting back some tracks but then I'd really have to figure out how to address the flow since at least their first two discs are all basically one long piece each
Am I ever going to get cut before right near the very end in any of your roulettes? Who knows
Am I ever gonna send anything that scores outside the 7.5 to 8.5 range? Absolutely not
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That's about what I figured. What surprises me is that the songs from Only By The Night and WALLS got your interest. That's really cool. Based on that, I think you will actually really enjoy Only By The Night, so I would go check that out whenever you have some time. WALLS is their most contemporary and stripped down sounding.
Yeah I can hear that from the songs you included from Walls. Look forward to hearing them both.
Thanks for letting me play, this was really fun! I always love sending more than one song from a given artist especially when I can show how they've changed over time.
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I honestly have literally nothing planned past this round because I wasn't really going into this expecting to get past round 5 especially after how the points looked last round. Oops
:lol That'll teach you!
I mean, it was bloody close. I wasn't sure it was likely you'd get through after round 4 either, but then the scores around the middle were all really close so I was also fairly sure it'd mostly come down to this round in some cases.
Glad you liked it anyways! I considered cutting back some tracks but then I'd really have to figure out how to address the flow since at least their first two discs are all basically one long piece each
Yeah to an extent, I think it definitely would have been doable but as you say would have required some figuring out. And it all worked out fine in the end anyway. Kind of curious to listen to all three in isolation - haven't really paid attention to the divide, particularly between the first two, as I've been listening to each compilation as a whole.
Am I ever going to get cut before right near the very end in any of your roulettes? Who knows
Am I ever gonna send anything that scores outside the 7.5 to 8.5 range? Absolutely not
True, during the roulettes themselves, you've never scored outside that range, which is damn consistent. With post-roulette submissions, you've managed to get as low as 6.0. :P
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There's a reason that was a post-roulette submission :P
Also the second one starts and ends with mobius strips
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Fair point. :P
But then your post-roulette submissions have also included some of the best stuff you've sent me, particularly Caligula's Horse and White Ward.
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Caligula was I think something I just didn't have enough rounds to send
White Ward was me not knowing how you'd react
I'm looking at the scores and just going "Congrats Luoto!" because that's a big lead lol
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I'm looking at the scores and just going "Congrats Luoto!" because that's a big lead lol
Yeah but you said that to Clortho after round 2.
Also, there are only 5 players but still a big spread of scores in each round (think I'll make it 5-10 from now on rather than 4-10 - EDIT: changed my mind) which means large movements can happen very quickly.
EDIT: Oh and the final is out of 20.
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Making it 5-10 makes the spread smaller :lol
Also no bonus points in this round? Just noticed that
Are there bonus points for anything past this?
Anyways I might just go screw it and send you W**f***** next just to see how you react
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Making it 5-10 makes the spread smaller :lol
Yeah sorry I meant that as an aside. But it's still a very big spread for just 5 players.
Also no bonus points in this round? Just noticed that
Are there bonus points for anything past this?
Yeah that was just for the greatest hits round, think I mentioned it at the start of the round. I realised I wasn't going to feel confident about ratings for compilations (and indeed I've posted them but only as approximate ratings) so didn't think the bonus points would make sense.
Bonus points back as normal for next two rounds. Everything same as it was for rounds 2-4. Then final completely different as it's concept albums.
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Actually screw it, I'll stick with my original plan of keeping it to 4-10 points (plus bonuses) to make it more dramatic and give everyone who isn't Luoto a fighting chance.
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Damn, cut so close :P. I'll send you the Greatest Hits I had sent Ev, I think it'll be up your alley.
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Glad you liked Depeche Mode. I actually debated leaving Question of Lust off the compilation, but ultimately left it in because I thought the album would be too short :lol Shows what I know :P
I'll find something shortly for the next round.
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Man, now I have to make a concept album too, that sucks
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Sent :corn
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okay, sent. here's hoping for A Place
i don't really have any expectations of winning this one so i'm just gonna continue the trend of "sending you things i spun obsessively since your last roulette"
so,
Anyways I might just go screw it and send you W**f***** next just to see how you react
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okay, sent. here's hoping for A Place
i don't really have any expectations of winning this one so i'm just gonna continue the trend of "sending you things i spun obsessively since your last roulette"
so,
Anyways I might just go screw it and send you W**f***** next just to see how you react
I actually almost sent that. I sent a different 2019 album instead.
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L*****?
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L*****?
:itsnotunusual:
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gonna be a fun hangman trying not to guess each others' albums :neverusethis:
i could see ariich going either way on that one too. i honestly wasn't as into it as i originally expected i would be unfortunately
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Damn, cut so close :P. I'll send you the Greatest Hits I had sent Ev, I think it'll be up your alley.
Yeah, maybe if I sent yours we'd still be in, but I didn't like them. :lol
Oh well. Thanks for the fun roulette!
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Damn, cut so close :P. I'll send you the Greatest Hits I had sent Ev, I think it'll be up your alley.
Sounds great. :tup
Man, now I have to make a concept album too, that sucks
Considering you've more than once promised/threatened to send me one whether you reach the final or not, I imagine it won't be too much of a hardship. :P
Damn, cut so close :P. I'll send you the Greatest Hits I had sent Ev, I think it'll be up your alley.
Yeah, maybe if I sent yours we'd still be in, but I didn't like them. :lol
Oh well. Thanks for the fun roulette!
And thanks for really embracing the sidekick rule, I'm really pleased with how that went and how it added to the variety of what you sent me with some good success (particularly Portishead)!
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yeah i was totally lying about planning to send one if i didn't reach the finals it's a lot of work
concepts are hard. EPs where i don't have to think about concepts and can just throw a bunch of songs together are easy
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For sure, but like I say, it doesn't need to be a story concept, it can be a thematic one. And you can use a bit of music I already to know to help with the flow/narrative, to make it a bit less hard.
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Got it, 50 minutes of el drugstore
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How the hell have you never heard In Morning? Damn, that’s another thung I could have easily sent :lol
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Shame.. I sent them because they’re one of the few holes in the banned list of bands that I love and also think are consistently great. I really wanted to send Hypno5e but 70 minutes wasn’t enough. It’s an interesting concept for a round theme but very limiting in my case because most of my latest obsessions are new bands with 1 or 2 albums out.
Good luck to the rest! Train = Dethroned & Uncrowned
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for what it's worth i don't think hypno5e would've done well with ariich :P
could be wrong there though because TASTES but based on the read i have on him, nah
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I disagree, I think he'd like some of it at least. And I think this round would've been great for it since that was always a band I had a hard time sending single songs of, since it wouldn't represent their whole sound. The closest they come with that is probably the title track off Acid Mist Tomorrow, which I think I've sent to you
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make the greatest hits and send it to him then :P
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Or recommend me an album of theirs to check out post-roulette, and I'll report back!
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I'll make a greatest hits then, I think that would give a better impression! Though will be better to wait until the new album is out (22 November), I'd love to include the closer of that one if I can fit it in somehow
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That 5 point gap though...
I've heard Garden of Storms once and it's very good, possibly their best.
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I knew I didn't have a chance but I am glad you liked the band, especially since the two songs you liked the most are also my favorites. You should definitely start with that album :smiley:
It was fun while it lasted. I'll go back to my regular avatar
Also, thanks King for the help. Even if this didn't work out I was able to get some new music that I really liked and I know you did too.
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I knew I didn't have a chance but I am glad you liked the band, especially since the two songs you liked the most are also my favorites. You should definitely start with that album :smiley:
It was fun while it lasted. I'll go back to my regular avatar
Also, thanks King for the help. Even if this didn't work out I was able to get some new music that I really liked and I know you did too.
Wish I could have helped more. Flying home from Chicago today. Can't wait to get home.
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I enjoyed participating, thanks for having me!
If nothing else, the Copeland, Phoebe, and Jason scores warm my heart.
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Whew! Back near the top. Glad you liked what I sent.
So if a band is banned but changed their name recently, is the new band (which is really the old band with a different name) banned as well? Asking for a friend...
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Yes, Kindo is banned :P
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Yes, Kindo is banned :P
Also I've heard the Kindo album. :P
If it's literally the same band but with different branding, then I'd say that's banned (e.g. Devin Townsend, The Devin Townsend Band, The Devin Townsend Project are all the same). If there's a lineup change that makes things a bit different (especially changes of singer, e.g. Creed -> Alter Bridge or Art By Numbers -> Artificial Language), that would probably be allowed but worth checking first.
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Just waitin' on the leader.
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Luotos As Leaders
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Ok, you guys were quick (figures as there's only 5 left). I'll probably send tomorrow, it's bedtime soon.
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Yeah no worries, there's no rush. :tup
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raagghh I need my hangmemes tho
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Sent
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HANGEMHIGH
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Guessed letters:
EDIT: Puppies and Cyril can't "guess" each other's. :P
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S
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give me the A
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I see an ass.
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Guessed letters: SA
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i know 2 of the 5, but it's the two i can't guess :neverusethis:
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Give me all the D!
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So sad.
?: _a_ad_s_ __s_ – D_a____a_ ____s
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Guessed letters: SAD
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Warrior Soul - Last Decade Dead Century, sent by clortho
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Wow. How'd you know?
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i figured out three of the four words in the album title and was able to reverse search it from there :P
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Tomi: Paradise Lost - Draconian Times
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luoto sent the last album in the hangmang :neverusethis:
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This'll probably be a pretty quick hangman.
Tomi: Paradise Lost – Draconian Times
Clortho: Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century
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Luoto: ____s___ _a__ – ___: ___-____
Guessed letters: SAD
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i mean, if i can guess another letter? i have no clue what luoto sent tbh
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i mean, if i can guess another letter? i have no clue what luoto sent tbh
You can, as Puppies guessed the last one.
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R time
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Tomi: Paradise Lost – Draconian Times
Clortho: Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century
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Luoto: ____s___ _a__ – ___: _r_-____
Guessed letters: SAD R
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Cyril: Warforged - I: Voice
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Yep
Tomi: Paradise Lost – Draconian Times
Clortho: Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century
Cyril: Warforged – I: Voice
Puppies: _as__r – ___ _ass__ ___
Luoto: ____s___ _a__ – ___: _r_-____
Guessed letters: SAD MR
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Any M's in there?
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Nope, no Ms, just the one in Tomi's entry.
EDIT: Reposting for new page:
Tomi: Paradise Lost – Draconian Times
Clortho: Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century
Cyril: Warforged – I: Voice
Puppies: _as__r – ___ _ass__ ___
Luoto: ____s___ _a__ – ___: _r_-____
Guessed letters: SAD MR
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I almost sent Draconian Times.
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B
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Cyril: Warforged – I: Voice
I wish this album was at least twenty minutes shorter than it is. If you've got an album this consistently extreme, it shouldn't be more than like, fifty minutes tops. :lol
Cellar is still :metal :metal :metal though.
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yeah i have the same criticism tbh, i'd probably cut down each of the tracks a little myself
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Literally no Bs at all.
Tomi: Paradise Lost – Draconian Times
Clortho: Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century
Cyril: Warforged – I: Voice
Puppies: _as_er – _e_ _asse_ ___
Luoto: ____s___ _a__ – ___: _r_-____
Guessed letters: SAD MR BE
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dammit luoto what the hell did you send
also impressions when :corn
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also impressions when :corn
Imminently. Have to say, after first listen, I'm not really feeling this round so far. No complete duds, but no standouts. A couple of potential growers maybe.
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hell yeah :metal
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Round 6 first impressions
1. Feels like it could be one of those quintessential 7/10 albums. All sounded solid enough, but nothing excited me at all.
2. Interesting mix of different ideas, but not sure it does any of them all that well.
3. Not bad, and there’s some really good stuff, but also some not so interesting stuff, and it maybe drags a bit.
4. This might be a bit too much, but then there’s something intriguing about it. Didn’t love my first listen at all but can potentially see it being a grower.
5. Probably the strongest of the round on first listen, but I’m also not sure it has much scope to grow on me like some of the others do.
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yeah definitely #4 rip
puppies' yet unnamed album is probably #2
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I think this is the first round certainly of this roulette, maybe of all my roulettes (except final rounds when there's only 2-3 people) where I genuinely have no idea how the ranking might end up looking. Could end up with all 5 albums getting the same rating. :lol
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Mine is probably #3. It's also a band that's likely never been sent in a roulette before, but I know for a fact one participant is somewhat familiar with them ;)
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Fine, give me O
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T please
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Bit more helpful this time...
Tomi: Paradise Lost – Draconian Times
Clortho: Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century
Cyril: Warforged – I: Voice
Puppies: _aster – _et _asse_ Oo_
Luoto: ____sto_ _a__ – ___: Tr_-_o__
Guessed letters: SAD MR BETOC
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Ooh, I sent Master - Get Gassed, Oof
Also give me a C
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Ooh, I sent Master - Get Gassed, Oof
:lol
No more C, please try harder!
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Just put the finishing touches on my Concept Album. I'm super excited for that round. I'm really happy with how it turned out. I'm prepared for you to like a grand total of 1 song on it :biggrin:
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i started on a concept over the weekend but i'm pretty sure it's gonna suck
the problem with concept albums is usually i can't pick the songs i really wanna send i have to pick the ones that fit the concept and aaaahhh
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i started on a concept over the weekend but i'm pretty sure it's gonna suck
the problem with concept albums is usually i can't pick the songs i really wanna send i have to pick the ones that fit the concept and aaaahhh
Conceptual/thematic narrative is only worth 5 points. Musical flow is worth another 5 and overall quality is worth 10. So I wouldn't recommend prioritising concept over the other things!
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Give me I
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Luoto: _i__sto_ _a__ – III: Tri-_o__
Guessed letters: SAD MR BETOCI
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Kingston Wall - III: Tri-Logy
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1. Feels like it could be one of those quintessential 7/10 albums. All sounded solid enough, but nothing excited me at all.
Warrior Soul
2. Interesting mix of different ideas, but not sure it does any of them all that well.
Puppies as-of-yet-unrevealed album
3. Not bad, and there’s some really good stuff, but also some not so interesting stuff, and it maybe drags a bit.
Kingston Wall
4. This might be a bit too much, but then there’s something intriguing about it. Didn’t love my first listen at all but can potentially see it being a grower.
Warforged
5. Probably the strongest of the round on first listen, but I’m also not sure it has much scope to grow on me like some of the others do.
Paradise Lost
can i just spoil puppies' already btw :lol
i looked at kingston park's genre and length and it's definitely #3. 1 & 5 could go either way, dunno for sure, but puppies' is definitely #2.
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Wait, how can mine and Kingston Wall both be #2? :corn
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i literally posted which was which in the quote just because i made a typo doesn't mean the point doesn't get across :P
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i literally posted which was which in the quote just because i made a typo doesn't mean the point doesn't get across :P
I ignored the quoted part. :loser:
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i literally posted which was which in the quote just because i made a typo doesn't mean the point doesn't get across :P
I am a :loser:
okay cap'n
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can i just spoil puppies' already btw :lol
Yeah seems we'll never get there. :lol
Tomi: Paradise Lost – Draconian Times
Clortho: Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century
Cyril: Warforged – I: Voice
Puppies: Laster – Het Wassen Oog
Luoto: Kingston Wall – III: Tri-Logy
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Ok I think I've decided a ranking. But I do want to give each album another listen as there's two or three I'm not entirely sure about rating. So results should be tomorrow evening.
SPOILER: This is certainly the weakest round in any of my album roulettes, possibly by quite a long way. Excellent work, chaps. :lol
EDIT: Although because of my scoring system, this does mean some high scores for not very high rated albums!
EDIT 2: Oh and if you want round comparisons, it's v for everyone.
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Finally broke out of the 7.5-8.5 range :metal
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I really wish I could get into Warforged.. on paper it’s like exactly my kinda band, I just don’t feel it. But it’s super cool how much traction they’re getting given how small they are, we need more prog techdeath bands that don’t sing about stupid alien shit (yes RoS I’m looking at you)
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Who's RoS and should I check them out
Warforged is the level of heavy I should hate but the riffs are generally good and they have so much else going on, the album feels like this elaborate piece of art that still feel like I haven't fully comprehended and that makes it very relistenable even if I can't consider it a top tier album yet
My rule this roulette has been just "have I obsessively spun this record" though so it qualifies
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I can see all of that, it’s truly beyond me why I don’t like this album..
Rings of Saturn, eh they’re like a meme to me, very technical and some funny goofy shit spread out very rarely, mostly just a bit boring tech death imo. I’m more of a Zenith Passage and Rivers of Nihil kinda guy
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Oh rings of saturn are a meme in the clone hero community too I love it
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Hey we should plug soon again, we haven’t exchanged bad music in ages
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Hey we should plug soon again, we haven’t exchanged bad music in ages (I only have with ariich)
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Hey we should plug soon again, we haven’t exchanged bad music in ages
We've been pluggin fairly often over the last couple months.
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Yeah! I played some garbage and everyone else played real music
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holy sweet jesus while i was going through stuff for my concept album i just noticed a shocking hole in the banned list that i am now immediately filling
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holy sweet jesus while i was going through stuff for my concept album i just noticed a shocking hole in the banned list that i am now immediately filling
I don't know if I should be excited or terrified.
If anyone else knows what they want to send for round 7 and doesn't need to wait for the round 6 results, feel free to go ahead and send early and I can make a start on listening more quickly.
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i feel like it's probably the "safest" pick i've sent so far but eehh who cares when it's real good
i can't find the thoughts of puppies, luoto, or tomi regarding it unfortunately but based on what i know/what i've found i'd think all of them would/do like it too :corn
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ROUND 6 RESULTS
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Tomi
Paradise Lost – Draconian Times (1995)
First impression: Probably the strongest of the round on first listen, but I’m also not sure it has much scope to grow on me like some of the others do.
Final opinion: Yeah so this has managed to hold out as the strongest of the round, and actually it did grow on me a little too. You're a bit lucky here because in a stronger round this might have ranked fairly low, as despite being a LOT more interesting than what I've heard from Paradise Lost before, it still doesn't grab me enough to warrant an 8/10. But it's very solid and the round winner so let's focus on the positives. A lot of goth rock I've heard doesn't really do it for me, as I often find it hard to feel the vibe it's going for, but this does a good job. There's a real 90s moodiness to it that feels convincing to me and I enjoyed right from my first listen. What I've appreciated more on subsequent listens is the crunchiness of it too - it's not especially heavy but there are some very cool moments that remind me of what Metallica were doing in the late 80s and early 90s. This is definitely helped by the vocals which are strong and hold everything together. All in all, not your best submission but enough to score you 10 points!
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 10 points
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Cyril
Warforged – I: Voice (2019)
First impression: This might be a bit too much, but then there’s something intriguing about it. Didn’t love my first listen at all but can potentially see it being a grower.
Final opinion: Congrats on finally breaking out of the 7.5-8.5 range, but it was very very close and you still came second in the round. :lol This album is definitely a grower, in that it takes a number of listens to bring out some of the nuances and highlights. But it's still a pretty relentless album, which isn't helped by its length. The reason I've ranked it higher than the other 7s, and that it really did come close to yet another 7.5, is simply how high quality everything is. The production and performance is so impressive for a death metal debut, very tight and clear other than the craziest moments (which is fair enough). And I was right to say that it's intriguing. It feels very coherent as an album, and there are just enough respites from the heaviness to keep it listenable, helped particularly by the last few songs being more balanced and also some of the strongest material, along with Cellar. The heaviness I can cope with - as you noted, I liked Slice the Cake a lot - the thing I find too overbearing is the tonal (or perhaps better to say atonal) relentlessness. There are so few melodic moments and even those are quite discordant. So I don't love this album, but I find it really interesting and am glad to have expanded my musical horizons with it.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 8.5 points
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Luoto
Kingston Wall – III: Tri-Logy (1994)
First impression: Not bad, and there’s some really good stuff, but also some not so interesting stuff, and it maybe drags a bit.
Final opinion: Even if you'd not mentioned Kie doing the artwork for this, I'd have noticed that these guys were an influence on Von Hertzen Brothers (who, as you know, I love). I think the aspects I like most about this are those same influences. Punchy prog that isn't particularly indulgent and has no particular sense of virtuoso, but is quite quirky and fun and dynamic and melodic. The biggest missing ingredient is VHB's wonderful and heart-breaking vocal melodies and harmonies. But beyond that, I also don't find the music as consistently interesting, and indeed some of it I find actively irritating (Stuldt Hĺjt, just, urgh… and why is it 9 minutes!). It's a shame because if this album was just trimmed down to the strongest, say, 50 minutes, I could have really liked it a lot. As it is, it's just too inconsistent and ends up dragging quite a bit, despite the epic closer having so much great material.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 7 points
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Puppies
Laster – Het Wassen Oog (2019)
First impression: Interesting mix of different ideas, but not sure it does any of them all that well.
Final opinion: I've had a very weird and inconsistent experience with this album. First listen I thought it was OK but not great. Second listen I thought, hey maybe this is pretty cool. Listen three was wait no, this sucks. Fourth listen was back to my original view. I like the mix of styles, and there are some very good moments, but I feel like it doesn't excel at anything. You said it's rooted in atmospheric black metal, and I can hear that, except that hardly any of it is atmospheric at all really. There's definitely jazzy avant-garde influences, but the jazz harmonies don't quite gel with the metal for the most part, and it's not really that quirky or weird. I'm glad I gave the albums in this round an extra listen to help me make decisions - this could have been ranked and rated lower at one stage - but I've come around to the opener and especially the last few minutes of the closer, as well as some of the other grander moments that make the listen fairly enjoyable.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 5.5 points
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Clortho
Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century (1990)
First impression: Feels like it could be one of those quintessential 7/10 albums. All sounded solid enough, but nothing excited me at all.
Final opinion: You seem determined to retain your title as most inconsistent. Clearly we share very similar tastes in some areas but not others. Not that I dislike this or anything, it's quite enjoyable in a rock n roll kind of way, it's just not really my thing. To be honest, I'm not sure I have much to say because, unlike some albums where I have a mix of strong positive and negative reactions that are in tension with each other and fighting for dominance, here I have very little reaction of any kind. I just feel like, although it's fairly enjoyable, it's not fun enough to make up for what feels like me like a lack of substance. Entirely possible that's not a fair assessment, it's just what I get from it. As a result, this was the only album of the round that, if anything, ungrew on me with further listens.
Rating: 6.5/10
Score: 4 points
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Scores after Round 6:
1. (=) Luoto = 7.0 + 7.0 + 11.0 + 10.5 + 10.0 + 7.0 = 52.5
2. (^) Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 + 11.0 + 6.5 + 10.0 = 48.5
3. (^) Cyril = 9.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 7.5 + 8.5 = 46.0
4=(v) Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 + 4.5 + 9.5 + 4.0 = 44.5
4=(v) Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 + 9.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 5.5 = 44.5
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we did it reddit
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Well at least I'm still wildly inconsistent.
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Wow I did not expect that. I would like to thank everyone for sending some of your worst submissions :lol
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Wow I did not expect that. I would like to thank everyone for sending some of your worst submissions :lol
It was such a weird round. :lol It wasn't terrible, it was just much weaker than usual. Average score of 7.0. In the previous two and a half album roulettes I've done, the joint lowest average score for a round had been 7.4.
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Y'all we have a responsibility to get the highest average score of any round in ariich's roulettes this time
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Wow I did not expect that. I would like to thank everyone for sending some of your worst submissions :lol
It was such a weird round. :lol It wasn't terrible, it was just much weaker than usual. Average score of 7.0. In the previous two and a half album roulettes I've done, the joint lowest average score for a round had been 7.4.
Serves you right for eliminating Lucases and Train and Elite and me and whoever else was there. :biggrin:
Although I would've probably sent Jethro Tull for Round 6, so not sure how that would've fared.
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Y'all we have a responsibility to get the highest average score of any round in ariich's roulettes this time
I approve of this message. The joint highest average is 8.3 so you'll need to really up your game.
This is the last regular album round though, so last real chance!
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Although I would've probably sent Jethro Tull for Round 6, so not sure how that would've fared.
Definitely recommend me a Jethro Tull album that I've not rated and I'll be happy to check it out post-roulette.
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I love how the previous average range was 7.4 to 8.3
Makes me think of 7.5 to 8.5. But Worse
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I love how the previous average range was 7.4 to 8.
Makes me think of 7.5 to 8.5. But Worse
7.4 to 8.3. But yes it was technically a narrower range than you had (and still is, I guess).
But you'd expect that from averages as there's normally a range of ratings in any given round.
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I typed 8.3 but it got lost somehow ok
And wew I'm the average!
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Average rating from all of my album roulettes: 7.75
Cyril/Parama average rating from my roulettes: 7.72
Technically you are very, very slightly below average. :lol
But you have two more rounds to change that...
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2 more rounds to go way, way below the average :metal
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:lol
Actually those stats aren't really correct as they include post-roulette submissions, where you and others tend to send some riskier stuff.
For actual roulette rounds only:
Everyone average: 7.80
Cyril/Parama average: 7.89
Congrats, you're above average! But don't worry, you've still got those two rounds to ruin it all.
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Sent El Drugstore
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Oh boy. I don't know what to send now. Hmm. :corn
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Portal
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Portal
Jeez, if he though Warforged was relentless, I can't imagine how he would take Portal. :lol
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Yeah, that's why Luoto should send them :vomitard:
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I should send like Manowar or Night Ranger
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I've sent. Not sure how it will go over. I really like it though. I'm guessing it won't be in the middle of the pack though.
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I just found an obvious hole that I need to fill.
:zydarscouch:
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I hope it's the same one I already filled
ariich, is the 70 minute limit on the concept album a hard cap? I have a concept basically settled on but it's sitting at about 72 minutes right now and i don't think even my editing magic skills can cut that down to 70 :lol
the warforged and midnight odyssey albums i sent you were longer anyways so you gotta give me this one :P
edit; first draft is at 1:11:42 and it's basically impossible to cut down further without just cutting out entire parts of songs haha
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I hope it's the same one I already filled
ariich, is the 70 minute limit on the concept album a hard cap? I have a concept basically settled on but it's sitting at about 72 minutes right now and i don't think even my editing magic skills can cut that down to 70 :lol
the warforged and midnight odyssey albums i sent you were longer anyways so you gotta give me this one :P
edit; first draft is at 1:11:42 and it's basically impossible to cut down further without just cutting out entire parts of songs haha
Mine actually ended up exactly 70 minutes after I edited it, which was by pure accident.
And sent for round 7
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Sorry about the delayed reply, was at a wedding all day today.
I'm pretty relaxed about enforcing rules and don't want to be too strict. So the length of yours seems fine Cyril, I won't penalise it. Same to everyone else, if getting it right means going slightly over, that's not a problem.
For round 7, I've got four out of five submissions in now, have listened to two of them, and it's already stronger than the last round. :tup
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And then ariich listened to Cyril's submission...
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alright then i'll probably write up the story and send it off tonight but i'm gonna audit the bands with you first before i do
edit: ariich's response: "i've only ever even heard of one of these bands and i've never listened to them"
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alright then i'll probably write up the story and send it off tonight but i'm gonna audit the bands with you first before i do
For everyone else, if you want to send your final round concept album early, I have no problem with that, but there's also no need to either as I'm not going to listen to them at all until after Round 7. But it definitely wouldn't hurt to start planning your concept album now, if you haven't already.
And I don't think there's any particular need to "audit" the artists you're thinking of including, and I feel my rules are pretty clear cut on banned artists, my RYM list is comprehensive, and on those rare occasions I've heard something and not rated it, I generally allow it (like Puppies sending AFI in my last roulette). However, if you want to double check before you put the time into creating a concept album, you're very welcome to. :)
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album is sent.
i'm even going to post it in-thread early!
https://pastebin.com/pt2R0d92
except, I'm not gonna reveal the AES key until hangman is done :corn
i spent like over an hour on just the story and then another half hour preparing that flavor text post ariich i hope you don't enjoy even a single part of the whole package
on the flip side the flow on this one worked out stunningly easy, all the transitions basically handed themselves to me on a silver platter and i think i'm fine with that
almost as if these songs were already all just a story waiting to be woven together :hat
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I just sent my band list for approval.
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who we waitin' on for round 7 anyways? i am HYPED about this round and the concept album round now that all the work on my end is done ;D
edit: okay i noticed a few spelling errors in my story file and that i missed the lyrics to one of the songs in my lyrics sheet (but the album file I sent has the full lyrics attached to it as well) so i resent, full flavor post and all, feel free to delete the first one :P
edit2: GODDAMMIT now i want to add a commentary file into the whole ordeal which means I'm gonna have to resend again. i'm very impulsive as you can see
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I woke up to basically a full inbox of PMs from Cyril. :lol
Just waiting for Leader Luoto again for Round 7.
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i'm sorry i'm super perfectionist :lol
i'm excited about my concept album ok
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Luoto hasn't posted for a couple of days, so I've messaged him to check everything's ok. Will hold off on hangman for now but I've started listening to the four submissions so far.
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Sent. Sorry for the slight delay, life is getting in the way a bit :)
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No worries at all, happens to all of us and it hasn't held the round up. :)
Time for hangman!
?: _____ _________ – ________ ________
?: ___________ – ___ __________
?: __ ___ _____ __ – ____________ __ _______
?: _________ – _________ _________
?: ___ ____ – ______________
Guessed letters:
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i can't find the thoughts of puppies, luoto, or tomi regarding it unfortunately but based on what i know/what i've found i'd think all of them would/do like it too :corn
Cyril: At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
My brother was more into them at the time than I was, but the album's not bad. And yay for guessing without a single letter :P
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That album was sent (impressive guessing) but not by Cyril. On a related note, I've heard the odd song or two by 3 of the 5 artists this round.
?: _____ _________ – ________ ________
?: ___________ – ___ __________
?: At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
?: _________ – _________ _________
?: ___ ____ – ______________
Guessed letters:
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Ok, that quote looks funny now :lol It could be almost anyone still in this roulette so I won't try again yet.
Gimme the T
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?: _____ _____t___ – __t_____ ________
?: ___________ – T__ ______t___
?: At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
?: _________ – _____t___ _____t___
?: T__ ____ – _____t____t___
Guessed letters: T
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Round 7 first impressions
1. This is heavy, pretty proggy and surprisingly dense. I like it, but not sure how much yet.
2. This is somehow simultaneously of its time and ahead of its time.
3. This is probably the best thing you’ve sent all roulette.
4. This is… just a bit boring, to be honest.
5. This has a great groove to a lot of it and should be up my alley, but the vocals aren’t doing it for me right now and could be a sticking point.
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1 would fit mine, then again it could be 5 as well.
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AtDI is Puppies. Which I'd guess is impression #5 without knowing the others.
My impression is probably #1 anywho.
give me the D
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Hangman guesses all correct.
?: _____ _dd__t___ – __t_____ ________
?: D__________ – T__ ______t___
Puppies: At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
?: _________ – _____t___ _____t___
?: T__ ____ – D____t____t___
Guessed letters: TD
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Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
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Spot on.
?: Jane's Addiction – Nothing's Shocking
?: D__________ – T__ ______t___
Puppies: At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
?: _________ – _____t___ _____t___
?: T__ ____ – D____t____t___
Guessed letters: TD
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M
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Jane's Addiction is clortho.
Impression #2 perhaps. Pretty good way to describe the band from what I've heard. Very, very 90's but pushing boundaries in ways that a lot of their contemporaries hadn't even thought about.
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Just the one M.
Clortho: Jane's Addiction – Nothing's Shocking
?: D__________ – T__ ______t___
Puppies: At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
?: _________ – _____t___ M____t___
?: T__ ____ – D____t____t___
Guessed letters: TDM
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A
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R
Last one is The Cure - Disintegration also, sent by Tomi probably
impression #4 most likely, sorry tomi
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Clortho: Jane's Addiction – Nothing's Shocking
?: D__________ – T__ ____rat___
Puppies: At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
?: __r______ – ___r_t_a_ M__rat___
Tomi: The Cure – Disintegration
Guessed letters: TDMAR
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I still dunno what Luoto sent but it's the second one btw
Don't know what I sent either. Can't tell yet
EDIT: OH I figured it out. Disillusion - The Liberation
yeah that's definitely one of the two impressions left (1 or 3) and congrats Luoto you're getting a good score yet again :lol
even if i wasn't very into that one (or the band's first album either) myself. TASTES
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Cyril: Persefone - Spiritual Migration
That was quick :P I'm not too hot on Back to Times of Splendor either, the music is pretty good but the production is weird.
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we did it reddit
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Jeez you guys. :lol
Clortho: Jane's Addiction – Nothing's Shocking
Luoto: Disillusion – The Liberation
Puppies: At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
Cyril: Persefone – Spiritual Migration
Tomi: The Cure – Disintegration
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realizing i called jane's addiction a 90's band when that particular album predates the one from The Cure lol oops.
there's a real good spread of variety and also age in this round tho. two late 80's albums of very different styles, a turn-of-the-millennium post-hardcore record, mid 2010's prog-death and "literally a month ago" melodic death metal
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I'm guessing mine is 2 or 5. Hoping it's 3.
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Honestly I think mine could fit any of those impressions :corn
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Early days but this round could end up having the widest spread of scores so far in this roulette.
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a 9.0 AND a 7.0? wow :neverusethis:
actually one round went from 6.5 to 8.5 but my joke stands
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Indeed, which means this round might have a score higher than 8.5 or lower than 6.5 or both. Nothing is decided yet though.
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I hope I'm going down, down, down, lower, to the bottom, of the valley, where the train is observed
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Also, I'm hoping to have results by Wednesday evening, or Thursday at the latest. So I would definitely suggest cracking on with your concept albums, and like Cyril do feel free to send early if you like although no pressure to at all.
A reminder of the round rules:
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Final – Concept album: Here I want both quality and a bit of creativity. Here are the unnecessarily complicated rules:
- 40-70 minutes of music from at least 3 different artists (short interlude tracks don’t count towards this).
- Flow and narrative are important. It doesn’t need to be a story-based concept, it’s fine for it to be thematic as long as the concept is clear and it narratively flows well.
- You may use a small amount of music from banned artists, if this helps you get the flow/narrative right. Up to 20% of the total time (8 mins for a 40 min album, 14 mins for a 70 min album) can be from banned artists/albums. The rest needs to all be new and still be from 3 different artists.
- The usual 4-10 points scoring will be based only on how much I like the new music and ignore anything I already know. Up to 10 additional points will also be available: 5 for how coherently the album flows musically, and 5 for quality of the conceptual/thematic narrative.
In terms of format, same as the Greatest Hits round am happy with whatever format works for you. Sending a single MP3 or collection of Mp3s often works well if you want to manually curate it (especially to help with flow etc.). But Spotify playlists are also fine.
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I realize I could've sent you a spotify playlist instead of including both the single file and all the individual files but whatever
Commencing corn
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A single file is generally useful if editing is needed for track transitions or normalising voiume levels. If nothing like that is needed then yeah just the tracks or a Spotify playlist are completely fine.
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Yeah I am saying I bloated up my .zip file unnecessarily by including both the 71 minute mp3 and separate files for every song when i could've just given a spotify link lol
Don't be dumb like me, kids
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Don't be dumb like me, kids
Noted
I'm working on the writeup/story/theme for my Concept Album. Should have it done tonight or tomorrow.
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Alunea Pt. 4? :metal
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Nah, this is an entirely new story line :corn
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Nice
Mine's entirely self contained but also each song us basically its own entire chapter because I went overboard
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compared sons when? :corn
show me that delicious ^
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compared sons when?
Now! Though I'm not sure how helpful they are considering the last round... :P
v Tomi
^ Cyril
^ Luoto
^ Puppies
^ Clortho
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i mean you've confirmed my guess for which impression tomi got was correct but that's about it :corn
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All I've confirmed is that Tomi will be scoring 7.5 or lower.
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I mean, true :P
We'll see once you post results, I guess :corn
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I mean, true :P
We'll see once you post results, I guess :corn
So yes you were in fact correct. :P
ROUND 7 RESULTS
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Cyril
Persefone – Spiritual Migration (2013)
First impression: This is probably the best thing you’ve sent all roulette.
Final opinion: After two and a half roulettes in the 7.5-8.5 range, you finally break out of it two rounds in a row, this time with the best thing you’ve ever sent me. Especially after the last round, I honestly wasn’t expecting anything else this exciting for the rest of the roulette. At times it goes fully into death metal territory and has the intensity of other things you’ve sent me, but it’s all so fantastically balanced with a rich sense of melody and atmosphere, some real proggyness and a great amount of variety that makes it feel much shorter than its runtime (on that note, for someone who claims to prefer shorter albums, you’ve sent me a lot of really lengthy stuff!). And while the general style might not be wholly unique, the speed and tightness of the riffing is something I’ve just not heard in this sort of music. Performances are generally awesome all round and both the clean and harsh vocals give the music the impact it needs to make this a pretty thrilling album, and the very clear round winner. After scraping through the round 5 elimination and having a lot of luck in round 6, you’ve suddenly given yourself a shot at this.
Rating: 9/10
Score: 10 + 2 bonus = 12 points
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Puppies
At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command (2000)
First impression: This is somehow simultaneously of its time and ahead of its time.
Final opinion: I should start by saying that I’ve been a big fan of One Armed Scissor since the early 2000s (end of school, early uni for me) and have had just that song in my mp3 collection since then. I must have checked the album out at some point back then, but evidently it never did anything for me and I never went back to it to rate it. But my tastes have expanded a lot over the years and I’m really glad to have (re-)discovered it. There is something about the grungy, punky sound that still very much reminds of that era. But it’s also got big aspects of both where they’d go next with The Mars Volta, and generally where post-hardcore would go later into the 2000s and beyond. The rawness doesn’t always quite work for me in every song, but it doesn’t stop it being a pretty exciting and energetic album. And while Scissor is still my favourite, there are a whole load of other great songs too - the ones I’ve been particularly enjoying are Mannequin Republic, Rolodex Propaganda and Non-Zero Possibility (incidentally, the titles are a bit ridiculous).
Rating: 8/10
Score: 8 + 1 bonus = 9 points
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Luoto
Disillusion – The Liberation (2019)
First impression: This is heavy, pretty proggy and surprisingly dense. I like it, but not sure how much yet.
Final opinion: You didn’t need to provide any caveats about their earlier albums, as I’ve never heard them. :lol So I’ve come to this album as a complete newbie to the band, and they sound rather great to me. They definitely sound more prog metal than death metal, but there’s clearly a big element of both - kind of reminds me of Watershed-era Opeth in that regard. This album isn’t nearly as aggressive or intricate as the Persefone that Cyril sent, but tonally it’s very heavy and dense. It just borders on getting too much of a slog on a couple of occasions, but always pulls back just in time. There are atmospheric moments that provide the necessary respite, some huge melodies at times, and all held together by an intense mood that works really well. Not every song is amazing (the closer for example has some great parts but does drag a bit) but they’re all at least solid. The title track is probably the standout for me, it’s absolutely epic and one of my favourites of the whole roulette.
Rating: 8/10
Score: 7.5 + 1 bonus = 8.5 points
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Clortho
Jane's Addiction – Nothing's Shocking (1988)
First impression: This has a great groove to a lot of it and should be up my alley, but the vocals aren’t doing it for me right now and could be a sticking point.
Final opinion: You’ve had some bad luck here because if you’d sent this last round, you’d have at least come second and maybe even won the round. I really do like a lot of it, and I can see why Cyril thought the “ahead of its time” first impression was about this, as there definitely is a 90s vibe to it and I gather the band will have quite influential. It has a great groove in a lot of the songs, some strong hooks and a sense of swagger that’s very enjoyable. I like Navarro’s guitar playing as well (I mostly know him from the album he did with the Red Hot Chili Peppers) which provides quite a bit of that swagger. As I suspected in my first impression, though, the thing that gets in the way is Perry Farrell’s vocals. I can’t remember what songs I’ve heard from Jane’s Addiction before, presumably from one of their later albums, but I don’t remember finding the vocals this irritating.
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 6.5 points
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Tomi
The Cure – Disintegration (1989)
First impression: This is… just a bit boring, to be honest.
Final opinion: Ok so I’ll say that this did grow on me, a little, to the extent that there are a couple of songs I rather like now (Homesick especially is genuinely really nice, and the title track is pretty cool too, with a good groove). And the rest, I’ve come to appreciate the moody vibe, but I do still find it all a bit dull and it drags a lot. I mean, why is it all so long? For my tastes, there just isn’t enough variety or interesting stuff happening to keep my attention. The Same Deep Water As You seems to encapsulate this issue - perfectly pleasant but it’s 4 minutes of content in a 9 minute song. That’s just a microcosm of the album as a whole though, which I’ve generally found hard work to get through. It works fine as background music, I want a bit more than that really.
Rating: 6.5/10
Score: 4 points
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Scores after Round 7:
1. (=) Luoto = 7.0 + 7.0 + 11.0 + 10.5 + 10.0 + 7.0 + 8.5 = 61.0
2. (^) Cyril = 9.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 7.5 + 8.5 + 12.0 = 58.0
3. (^) Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 + 9.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 5.5 + 9.0 = 53.5
4. (v) Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 + 11.0 + 6.5 + 10.0 + 4.0 = 52.5
5. (v) Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 + 4.5 + 9.5 + 4.0 + 6.5 = 51.0
So as we go into the final round, Luoto is still ahead but his lead has now dropped to 3 points. We’ve seen how much movement there is in these post-elimination rounds, so Cyril definitely has a shot, and potentially even Puppies. Technically anyone can still win, but obviously much less likely for the bottom two. The battle for a bronze medal is very much on though.
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So you're saying there's a chance.
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honestly if i win this it'll be the comeback of the century and the perfect ending to the three-roulette story
1st roulette: eliminated before the finals
2nd roulette: second place
3rd roulette: underdog comeback after near-elimination twice :metal
anyways congrats luoto
also
holy sweet jesus while i was going through stuff for my concept album i just noticed a shocking hole in the banned list that i am now immediately filling
told you so. unfortunately i don't think any other persefone album lives up to this one, nothing else i've heard from them even comes close really
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So you're saying there's a chance.
:lol Mathematically, absolutely. There are 10 points between you and Luoto, and the possible scores range from 4 (round loser and no points at all for musical and narrative flow) to 20 (round winner and maximum points for musical and narrative flow).
You could say that it's a:
Non-Zero Possibility
anyways congrats luoto
:lol
also
holy sweet jesus while i was going through stuff for my concept album i just noticed a shocking hole in the banned list that i am now immediately filling
told you so. unfortunately i don't think any other persefone album lives up to this one, nothing else i've heard from them even comes close really
Yeah you got this one spot on. And no worries if their other albums aren't as good, that happened with a bunch of my favourites from the last two roulettes.
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Gunning for another 9/10 or higher with my concept album btw
The beauty of these things is that I can pick and choose really great tunes and just make an album that goes hard for its entire runtime :metal
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So I'm still working on my story.....I got a little (a lot) carried away. It's turning in to a novel... :lol
Anyway, I should have it to you by tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.
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So I'm still working on my story.....I got a little (a lot) carried away. It's turning in to a novel... :lol
Evermind would be proud.
my story definitely isn't a novel but probably at least qualifies for short story status. 2031 words & 4 full pages in MS word at size 12 font, so. it's something at least :P
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So I'm still working on my story.....I got a little (a lot) carried away. It's turning in to a novel... :lol
Evermind would be proud.
my story definitely isn't a novel but probably at least qualifies for short story status. 2031 words & 4 full pages in MS word at size 12 font, so. it's something at least :P
Mine ended up not being quite that long, but close. I'm sure my story makes no sense and may need a lot of editing, but oh well. Sending in few minutes.
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So I'm still working on my story.....I got a little (a lot) carried away. It's turning in to a novel... :lol
Evermind would be proud.
my story definitely isn't a novel but probably at least qualifies for short story status. 2031 words & 4 full pages in MS word at size 12 font, so. it's something at least :P
Mine ended up not being quite that long, but close. I'm sure my story makes no sense and may need a lot of editing, but oh well. Sending in few minutes.
I've headed off to work now so won't be able to download properly until this afternoon/evening. So if you want to take a few more hours to refine, I say go for it. There's no hard deadline yet anyway.
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So I'm still working on my story.....I got a little (a lot) carried away. It's turning in to a novel... :lol
Evermind would be proud.
my story definitely isn't a novel but probably at least qualifies for short story status. 2031 words & 4 full pages in MS word at size 12 font, so. it's something at least :P
Mine ended up not being quite that long, but close. I'm sure my story makes no sense and may need a lot of editing, but oh well. Sending in few minutes.
I've headed off to work now so won't be able to download properly until this afternoon/evening. So if you want to take a few more hours to refine, I say go for it. There's no hard deadline yet anyway.
Too late, I've already sent. Besides I'm going to bed now :P I'm really happy with the music on this and how well it flows. The jury is still out on the story. :corn
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honestly my story this time around is awesome and fairly original (or at least it isn't directly based on greek myths like the one i sent you was :P) and i think the music's awesome too (i know for at least one of the songs you'd agree) so i'm looking forward to losing to luoto
i don't really think it'll totally flop though but i'm excited to be proven wrong on that front :metal
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So I've got three of the concept albums in and have started listening. :hat
Just waiting on Luoto and Tomi.
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Tomito salad, c'mon :corn
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So I've got three of the concept albums in and have started listening. :hat
Just waiting on Luoto and Tomi.
Were you able to download the mp3 file from my Google drive? I've been having issues with it lately, where it will make the files unable to be downloaded for some reason.
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I'm really curious to hear your album/read your story tbh but, hangmemes,
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So I've got three of the concept albums in and have started listening. :hat
Just waiting on Luoto and Tomi.
Were you able to download the mp3 file from my Google drive? I've been having issues with it lately, where it will make the files unable to be downloaded for some reason.
Yep, worked fine for me. Same with your Depeche Mode compilation. Not sure why you're having trouble downloading your own files. :lol
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:corn
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So I've got three of the concept albums in and have started listening. :hat
Just waiting on Luoto and Tomi.
Were you able to download the mp3 file from my Google drive? I've been having issues with it lately, where it will make the files unable to be downloaded for some reason.
Yep, worked fine for me. Same with your Depeche Mode compilation. Not sure why you're having trouble downloading your own files. :lol
:dunno: weird
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Sorry, but I won't be able to send until I get home from work (in about 8 hours)
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Sorry, but I won't be able to send until I get home from work (in about 8 hours)
No worries, there's no urgent rush so take your time. :)
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Sent :corn
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:corn
:corn :corn
luoto i hope i crush you :2metal:
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Good stuff, once Tomi has sent we can commence with epic hangman.
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dammit tomi you're killin' me :getoffmylawn:
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Sent. Sorry for the delay...
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:2metal: :metal :metal :2metal: :2metal: :metal
ariich. give me. The Ultimate D
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EPIC HANGMAN
PART ONE
?: _____r____ – _____ __r__ ___
?: D_____ – _r___ __d_r _r____r_
?: ___d_ ____r_ – ____-____ ______r
Puppies: Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
?: ____ _____ – _____ ______ R___r
?: _____r___ – __ ___ _____ __ _ _____ ___
Luoto: Oddland – Ire
?: ______ – _____
?: _______r__d – ___ __d _____
?: ________ – ___r_d________ __ ____
?: R____ ____ – ____ __r
?: _______r__d – _____ __d____
?: ____d__ _r__d – ___d ______ ___d
?: ______r____ – __d_____
Clortho: Pride and Glory – ____ ___r ____
Luoto: Oddland – Untrue
?: _____r____ – _____ __r__ ___
?: _______d – D____ ____r_
?: _____ – __r___r____r
Guessed letters: DR
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ariich. give me. The Ultimate D
welcome to the infinity war
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You don't need to tell me twice! :neverusethis:
Updated above.
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Oddland - Ire
Oddland - Sewers or Untrue
both sent by Luoto
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Good start! Updated above again.
Someone else guess a letter so Cyril can have another one. :P
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R
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:tup
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Fen - Our Names Written In Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
Let's see if Pt 1. will come up later.
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Fen is probably puppies.
some artist named Pride and Glory? sounds clortho-y
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All spot on.
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B
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gimme S
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?: D__b__ – _r___ __d_r _r_ss_r_
?: S__d_ ____r_ – ____-____ S_____r
Puppies: Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
?: B___ _____ – S____ ______ R___r
?: _____r___ – B_ ___ _____ __ _ B____ S__
Luoto: Oddland – Ire
?: ______ – _____
Tomi: Gallowbraid – ___ __d _s___
?: ________ – ___r_d____b__s __ ____
?: R____ ____ – ____ __r
Tomi: Gallowbraid – _s___ __d____
?: ____d__ Br__d – ___d ______ ___d
?: ______r____ – __d_____
Clortho: Pride and Glory – ____ ___r ___s
Luoto: Oddland – Untrue
Puppies: Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
?: _______d – D_s__ S___r_
?: S____ – __r___r____r
Guessed letters: DR BS
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Gallowbraid. Puppies?
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Gallowbraid yes, Puppies no.
Could be quite a lot of this as it's not the most varied round of the roulette. I've not dived into every artist yet but at least four of you have sent something from Finland... :lol
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yup, guilty as charged. all my artists are actually various (and different) european mainland countries, huh.
Gallowbraid has to be Tomi I guess? I don't see clortho sending that and I didn't send that.
on an unrelated note, i sent Fen to ariich in a previous roulette as a bonus album and it rated pretty mediocrely so i am interested to see if this Fen fares the same, i haven't been able to get much out of their albums pre-Winter myself
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Gallowbraid has to be Tomi I guess?
Yes indeed.
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I've not dived into every artist yet but at least four of you have sent something from Finland... :lol
Speaking of which...
Havukruunu - Kelle surut soi
Damn, all the folky black metal in this round.
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I've not dived into every artist yet but at least four of you have sent something from Finland... :lol
Speaking of which...
Havukruunu - Kelle surut soi
Damn, all the folky black metal in this round.
okay, that one is definitely puppies.
sensing a theme from his album.
i have no folky black metal on my album, for what it's worth.
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That song is also twice in the hangman :P
(Well, was)
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That song is also twice in the hangman :P
Yeah I only just noticed that - it was an error! Have now corrected.
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anyways i guessed the last letter, gimme the money luoto or puppies (or anyone else)
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U
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?: D__b__ – _r___ U_d_r _r_ssur_
?: S__d_ ____r_ – ____-____ S____ur
Puppies: Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
?: B___ _____ – S____ ______ R___r
?: _____r___ – B_ ___ _____ __ _ B____ Su_
Luoto: Oddland – Ire
?: ______ – _____
Tomi: Gallowbraid – ___ __d _s___
?: ____u___ – U__r_d____b__s __ ____
?: R_u__ _u__ – ____ __r
Tomi: Gallowbraid – _s___ __d____
?: ____d__ Br__d – ___d _u_u__ ___d
?: ______r____ – __d_____
Clortho: Pride and Glory – ____ __ur _u_s
Luoto: Oddland – Untrue
Puppies: Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
?: _______d – D_s__ S___r_
?: S____ – __r___r____r
Guessed letters: DR BUS
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Diablo - Grace Under Pressure
clortho
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T please
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Y
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?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
?: S__d_ ____r_ – ____-____ S____ur
Puppies: Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
?: B___ _____ – S____ ______ R___r
?: _____r___ – By ___ _____ __ _ B____ Su_
Luoto: Oddland – Ire
?: ______ – _____
Tomi: Gallowbraid – ___ __d _s___
?: ____u___ – U__r_d____b__s __ ____
?: R_u__ _u__ – ____ __r
Tomi: Gallowbraid – _s___ __d____
?: ____d__ Br__d – ___d _u_u__ ___d
?: ______r____ – __d____y
Clortho: Pride and Glory – ____ Y_ur _u_s
Luoto: Oddland – Untrue
Puppies: Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
?: _______d – Dys__ S___r_
?: S____ – __r___r____r
Guessed letters: DR BUSY
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T please
rip the T i guess
give me the E while you're at it
Pillorian - By the Light of a Black Sun
Puppies? could be Tomi too, I feel like they may have sent fairly similar-sounding albums considering the amount of folky black metal
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Oops, not sure how I missed that.
?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
?: S__d_ ____r_ – __t_-____ S____ur
Puppies: Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
?: B___ T____ – S___t __tt__ R___r
Puppies: Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
Luoto: Oddland – Ire
?: ______ – _____
Tomi: Gallowbraid – ___ __d _s___
?: ____u___ – U__r_d__t_b__s __ ____
?: R_u__ _utt – T___ __r
Tomi: Gallowbraid – _s___ __d____
?: ____d__ Br__d – ___d _utu__ ___d
?: ___t__r____ – __d____y
Clortho: Pride and Glory – __t_ Y_ur _uts
Luoto: Oddland – Untrue
Puppies: Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
?: _______d – Dys__ S___r_
?: S____ – __rt__r____r
Guessed letters: DR BUSTY
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give me the E while you're at it
:facepalm:
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give me the E while you're at it
:facepalm:
Thanos is leaving out half the letters.......you know, for the balance of the universe and whatnot. :biggrin:
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Skein - Cartographer by Luoto
Caladan Brood
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Caladan Brood - Puppies? Tomi?
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give me the E while you're at it
:facepalm:
Just testing you.
?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
?: S__de E___re – __t_-___e S____ur
Puppies: Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
?: B___ T____ – S_eet __tt_e R___r
Puppies: Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
Luoto: Oddland – Ire
?: E____e – ____e
Tomi: Gallowbraid – ___ __d _s_e_
?: ____u___ – U__red__t_b_es __ ___e
?: R_u__ _utt – T__e _er
Tomi: Gallowbraid – _s_e_ E_d____
Tomi: Caladan Brood – ___d _utu__ ___d
?: _e_t_er____ – __de___y
Clortho: Pride and Glory – __te Y_ur _uts
Luoto: Oddland – Untrue
Puppies: Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
?: _______d – Dys__ S__ere
Luoto: Skein – Cartographer
Guessed letters: DR BUSTY E
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Cyril: Shade Empire - Anti-Life Saviour :metal
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Bang Tango - Sweet Little Razor
clortho
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Getting there. I'll put up the second part later today.
?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
Cyril: Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
Puppies: Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
Clortho: Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
Puppies: Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
Luoto: Oddland – Ire
?: E____e – ____e
Tomi: Gallowbraid – ___ __d _s_e_
?: ____u___ – U__red__t_b_es __ ___e
?: R_u__ _utt – T__e _er
Tomi: Gallowbraid – _s_e_ E_d____
Tomi: Caladan Brood – ___d _utu__ ___d
?: _e_t_er____ – __de___y
Clortho: Pride and Glory – __te Y_ur _uts
Luoto: Oddland – Untrue
Puppies: Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
?: _______d – Dys__ S__ere
Luoto: Skein – Cartographer
Guessed letters: DR BUSTY E
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Communic - Unpredictables of Life
Alkaloid - Dyson Sphere
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Hate Your Guts?
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Communic is Luoto
gonna sleep now
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Guessed
Clortho:
Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
Pride and Glory – Hate Your Guts
Cyril:
Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
Luoto:
Communic – Unpredictables of Life
Oddland – Ire
Oddland – Untrue
Skein – Cartographer
Puppies:
Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
Tomi:
Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon
Gallowbraid – Oak and Aspen
Hangman Part One
?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
?: E____e – ____e
?: R_u__ _utt – T__e _er
Tomi: Caladan Brood – ___d _utu__ ___d
?: _e_t_er____ – __de___y
?: Alkaloid – Dyson Sphere
Guessed letters: DR BUSTY E
Hangman Part Two
?: ___d_r__ – _ar _r__ ___r_ Dr_a__ ____r_
?: ______rr__ – A_r____ _a ___
?: __y__a_____ar – ___r__y __r____ ___ ___
?: A_ A___ra__ ________ – _________ __ _____
?: __y___ __d – _____ _a_a__
?: ____y __rd__ – __v_ __ a _r___
?: ______rr__ – _________
?: _ad_a_d_ – _ Day ____
?: D_____ – A____ A_a__
?: Communic – Waves of Visual Decay
?: _r_____ ___ry – _____y
?: _______ Da__ – _____r__
?: _____y _______ – __rd_r, _______, __ ___ _ra___r _ar_
?: _______r___ – __r___ ____
?: _av__r____ – __ ___yv_ ____a_ __r___
?: ___r___ – ____d'_ D_ad
?: _r______ __rr___r_ __ra – _r____a:_
?: ______rr__ – _____
Guessed letters: VYDAR
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Communic - Waves of Visual Decay
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:tup
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Final: first impressions
Three impressions per concept album.
1. Wasn’t digging it at the start but it definitely gets better as it progresses.
2. The story-telling seems pretty cool and imaginative.
3. Definitely one of the most coherent-feeling of the round, musically at least.
4. There wasn’t anything that hugely jumped out at me on first listen.
5. All the songs seem pretty solid and there’s a good consistency of tone.
6. Rich storytelling although not yet sure it really links all that well to some of the lyrics.
7. This is ridiculously epic.
8. Enjoyable collection of songs.
9. One of the artists is one I’d wondered if you’d send me, and I’m glad you did as it’s probably the best thing here.
10. Pretty dark and emotionally intense.
11. The album’s theme works fine but I feel could have benefited from more narrative.
12. Covers some similar ground you’ve sent throughout this roulette, but I wonder if you might have been better off focusing more on what did well.
13. Nice storytelling though not sure the music entirely fits the narrative in the latter stages.
14. Very atmospheric.
15. I thought it might be a bit one-track initially but actually there’s some nice variety, even if it doesn’t always hit the mark.
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V for part 2
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Unusual letter to start with, there are hardly any, but updated above anyway!
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Those two Gallowbraid tracks are Ashen Eidolon and Oak And Aspen. Both great songs but the latter is especially awesome.
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Y in 2
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7. This is ridiculously epic.
:metal
1. Wasn’t digging it at the start but it definitely gets better as it progresses.
2. The story-telling seems pretty cool and imaginative.
3. Definitely one of the most coherent-feeling of the round, musically at least.
4. There wasn’t anything that hugely jumped out at me on first listen.
5. All the songs seem pretty solid and there’s a good consistency of tone.
6. Rich storytelling although not yet sure it really links all that well to some of the lyrics.
8. Enjoyable collection of songs.
9. One of the artists is one I’d wondered if you’d send me, and I’m glad you did as it’s probably the best thing here.
12. Covers some similar ground you’ve sent throughout this roulette, but I wonder if you might have been better off focusing more on what did well.
13. Nice storytelling though not sure the music entirely fits the narrative in the latter stages.
all of these i could see feasibly being mine, but i'm gonna hope mine are #2 and #9 :P
give me the secondary D
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Those two Gallowbraid tracks are Ashen Eidolon and Oak And Aspen. Both great songs but the latter is especially awesome.
Even though Ashen Eidolon is the opener of that album I choose Oak and Aspen for the opener of my album, I think it works really well.
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All updated above.
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we're sure picking some pretty bad letters on this one lol. no clue on anything.
part 2 is the rest of the songs also, right? I think I see all of mine across the two hangmanen sets now, anyways, so.
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A
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R
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we're sure picking some pretty bad letters on this one lol. no clue on anything.
You really were. :lol The last two are a big improvement, updated above.
part 2 is the rest of the songs also, right? I think I see all of mine across the two hangmanen sets now, anyways, so.
Yep. I'll also post the album titles shortly too.
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we're sure picking some pretty bad letters on this one lol. no clue on anything.
You really were. :lol The last two are a big improvement, updated above.
while this is true i still can't see crap, haha
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Shylmagoghnar
An Abstract Illusion
Moonsorrow - Jotunheim
Moonsorrow - Pimeä
Both by Puppies.
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Jotunheim is correct, but Puppies didn't send it. Pimea is not correct. There's also a third Moonsorrow song.
Have added the final hangman for album names at the bottom.
Guessed
Clortho:
Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
Pride and Glory – Hate Your Guts
Cyril:
Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
Luoto:
Communic – Unpredictables of Life
Oddland – Ire
Oddland – Untrue
Skein – Cartographer
Puppies:
Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
Moonsorrow – Huuto
Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
Tomi:
Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon
Gallowbraid – Oak and Aspen
Moonsorrow – Aurinko ja Kuu
Moonsorrow – Jotunheim
Hangman Part One
?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
?: E____e – ____e
?: R_u__ _utt – T__e _er
Tomi: Caladan Brood – ___d _utu__ ___d
?: _e_t_er____ – __de___y
?: Alkaloid – Dyson Sphere
Guessed letters: DR BUSTY E
Hangman Part Two
?: ___d_r__ – _ar _r__ ___r_ Dr_a__ ____r_
?: Shylmagoghnar – ___r__y __r____ ___ ___
?: An Abstract Illusion – _________ __ _____
?: __y___ __d – _____ _a_a__
?: ____y __rd__ – __v_ __ a _r___
?: _ad_a_d_ – _ Day ____
?: D_____ – A____ A_a__
?: Communic – Waves of Visual Decay
?: _r_____ ___ry – _____y
?: _______ Da__ – _____r__
?: _____y _______ – __rd_r, _______, __ ___ _ra___r _ar_
?: _______r___ – __r___ ____
?: _av__r____ – __ ___yv_ ____a_ __r___
?: ___r___ – ____d'_ D_ad
?: _r______ __rr___r_ __ra – _r____a:_
Guessed letters: VYDAR
Hangman album titles
?: ____ ____ __ ___ ________ __ ___ _____
?: ___ _____ ___ ___ ______ __ ___ ________
?: ______ ___ ______
?: ____ __ _ _____
?: _ _____ ____ __ ____
Guessed letters:
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Tomi sent Jotunheim?
i bet puppies did send at least one of the other moonsorrow tracks though. i obviously did not.
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Jotunheim is correct, but Puppies didn't send it. Pimea is not correct. There's also a third Moonsorrow song.
Yeah, I noticed Aurinko ja kuu just after I posted that, and at that point I also realized this is more like Tomi.
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A is already guessed so the last song can't be Kaiku unless ariich messed up.
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A is already guessed so the last song can't be Kaiku unless ariich messed up.
He must have, there's exactly three options and I've guessed enough letters to figure it out :lol
EDIT: Nevermind, there's a fourth. It's Huuto :metal
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Got there in the end! And yeah Huuto was Puppies.
Any more letter guesses?
EDIT: New page, so:
Guessed
Clortho:
Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
Pride and Glory – Hate Your Guts
Cyril:
Alkaloid – Dyson Sphere
An Abstract Illusion – Skeletons of Light
Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
Sunless Dawn – Biomorph
Luoto:
Communic – Unpredictables of Life
Oddland – Ire
Oddland – Untrue
Skein – Cartographer
Wilderun – Far from Where Dreams Unfurl
Puppies:
Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
Moonsorrow – Huuto
Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
Tomi:
Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon
Gallowbraid – Oak and Aspen
Moonsorrow – Aurinko ja Kuu
Moonsorrow – Jotunheim
Hangman Part One
?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
?: E__i_e – ____e
?: R_u__ _utt – T__e _er
Tomi: Caladan Brood – Wi_d _utum_ Wi_d
?: _e_t_erw___ – Hideaway
Guessed letters: DR BUSTY MEWI
Hangman Part Two
Puppies: Shylmagoghnar – ___r__y __r____ ___ ___
?: __y___ _id – __mm_ _a_a__
?: _i__y __rd__ – __v_ i_ a _rim_
?: _ad_a_d_ – _ Day ____
?: Dokken – A____ A_ai_
?: Communic – Waves of Visual Decay
?: _rim___ ___ry – _____y
?: __w__y ____i__ – M_rd_r, ___i___, i_ ___ _rai__r _ar_
?: Equilibrium – Kurzes Epos
?: _av__r____ – __ ___yvi ____a_ __r_i_
?: ___r_m_ – ___id'_ D_ad
?: _r____i_ __rr___r_ __ra – _r__ima:_
Guessed letters: VYDARMWI
Hangman album titles
?: _i__ _i__ W_ A__ _a_i____ i_ ___ ____m
?: ___ _m__a a__ ___ M_____ __ ___ __i_____
?: _a____ a__ _____w
?: Love is a Crime
?: A World Made __ _a__
Guessed letters: MWIA
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Shylmagoghnar is puppies i think. I remember spinning that one a few times last year but never got too into it.
how about you give me M on all three hangmanen?
it's still incredibly funny to me that puppies and tomi have sent very similar albums here, also
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Dang, I had Jotunheim in mine originally, but I couldn't make the narrative work with it. So I inevitably dropped it. Aurinko ja Kuu is a fantastic song, but I never would have thought to put it on my concept album. Wouldn't have fit story wise anyway. In the end, I'm glad Ariich is getting a triple dose of Moonsorrow and from 3 different album too. :metal
Give me a W in part 2
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I'm feeling generous so I'll give you W in all 3 even though you didn't ask for it. Updated above.
Fun fact: These three Moonsorrow tracks alone would have been a valid compilation back in round 5.
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Fun fact: These three Moonsorrow tracks alone would have been a valid compilation back in round 5.
Yeah, Jotunheim and Huuto clock about 35 minutes in total already :lol
Cyril: Sunless Dawn - Biomorph
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Cyril: Sunless Dawn - Biomorph
a true 3/10 classic :metal
Wilderun - Far From Where Dreams Unfurl, Luoto
not banned? huh.
or is this the part where it's exempt because of the "you can use a banned artist" rule. probably.
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Fun fact: These three Moonsorrow tracks alone would have been a valid compilation back in round 5.
Yeah, Jotunheim and Huuto clock about 35 minutes in total already :lol
Eh, if I wanted to do a 3 track Moonsorrow greatest hits I'd do Jäästä Syntynyt/Varjojen Virta, Tulimyrsky, and Jotunheim. 79 minutes of Moonsorrow bliss!
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Oh jeez, I just realized I had totally intended on switching Huuto to Kuolleiden maa in my concept album because it fit the story I had come up with in my head better. :facepalm: Oh well. Huuto still works, it just leaves the story off in a kind of cliff hanger. Which was partially intended. I always intended this to be a sort of Part 1/Book 1 of my story.
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the time limit was 70 minutes though :corn
if you threw a moonsorrow compilation at me, i'd die
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the time limit was 70 minutes though :corn
if you threw a moonsorrow compilation at me, i'd die
...from awesomeness overload!
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some song called Hideaway also
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not banned? huh.
or is this the part where it's exempt because of the "you can use a banned artist" rule. probably.
Yep.
All updated above.
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Cyril: Sunless Dawn - Biomorph
a true 3/10 classic :metal
:lol
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Any more letter guesses?
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give me I in every hangman i dunno
there's too many hangmans it's overwhelming :lol
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give me I in every hangman i dunno
there's too many hangmans it's overwhelming :lol
Fair. :lol
I've thrown in an extra A to the album names as that's looking a bit thin.
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Equilibrium - Kurzes Epos
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An Abstract Illusion is Skeletons of Light which is Cyril. Great tune!
Alkaloid is also likely Cyril
Is one of the artists either Dokken or Dungen?
One of the album titles is A World Made in Fall?
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Love is a Crime for one of the album names?
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Everything correct except this which is only partly correct:
One of the album titles is A World Made in Fall?
Album names will be generally harder to guess, so I'll give you correctly guessed words rather than requiring the whole thing.
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Bump hangman again, it's waaaayyy back on a different page for me and has been for a while :corn
Primal Fury also
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More like Crimson Glory I think, the song is Lonely
Progenie Terrestre Pura
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Oh yeah you're prob right
Primal Fury is a band that exists I think though :lol
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Wild Autumn Wind
Featherwind?
Give me every C
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Wow, C didn't help at all with the album titles.
Guessed
Clortho: "Love is a Crime" (12 songs)
Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
Extreme – Cupid's Dead
Lizzy Borden – Love is a Crime
Pride and Glory – Hate Your Guts
Cyril: "" (5 songs)
1. Alkaloid – Dyson Sphere
2. Sunless Dawn – Biomorph
3. Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
4. An Abstract Illusion – Skeletons of Light
5. Progenie Terrestre Pura – Proxima:B
Luoto: "" (7 songs)
Communic – Unpredictables of Life
Oddland – Ire
Oddland – Untrue
Skein – Cartographer
Wilderun – Far from Where Dreams Unfurl
Puppies: "" (7 songs)
Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
Moonsorrow – Huuto
Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
Tomi: "" (5 songs)
1. Gallowbraid – Oak and Aspen
2. Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon
3. Caladan Brood – Wild Autumn Wind
4. Moonsorrow – Aurinko ja Kuu
5. Moonsorrow – Jotunheim
Hangman remaining songs
?: Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
?: E__i_e – A___e
?: R_u__ Cutt – Ta_e _er
?: _eat_erw___ – Hideaway
Puppies: Shylmagoghnar – __ur_ey T_r_u__ t_e ___
?: C_y_te _id – _emme _ata_e
?: Badlands – _ Day _u__
?: Dokken – A___e A_ai_
?: Communic – Waves of Visual Decay
?: Crimson Glory – Lonely
?: C_wb_y _u__ies – Murder, T__i__t, i_ t_e Trai_er _ar_
?: Equilibrium – Kurzes Epos
Puppies: Havukruunu – __ ___yvi ____a_ __rtit
Guessed letters: VYDARMWICBUSTE
Hangman remaining album titles
?: _i__ _i__ W_ A__ _a_i____ i_ ___ ____m
?: ___ _m__a a__ ___ M_____ __ ___ __i_____
?: _a____ a__ _____w
?: A World Made __ _a__
Guessed letters: MWIAC
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Love is a Crime is also a song name
Guessing both are clortho.
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Yes indeed. Would have been a strange title for the others!
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That's Lizzy Borden
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Spot on.
I've decided to make things easier by merging parts one and two, now with all the letter guesses from both. Tomorrow I'll transfer all the letter guesses to the album names too. Then hopefully Wednesday will be results day, though it depends entirely on how long it takes me to do write ups as there's a lot to write about this time!
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Extreme - Cupid's Dead, clortho
Havukruunu by puppies
Badlands
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Updated above, also added the number of songs in each album.
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Progenie Terrestre Pura is Proxima B and I want to say Cyril sent that
I actually considered this band for my album.
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Yep, that's Cyril's and Tomi's albums now complete (except titles).
Have to say, I'm really digging these albums.
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For the record;
1. Alkaloid
2. Sunless Dawn
3. Shade Empire
4. An Abstract Illusion
5. Progenie Terrestre Pura
My album title is related to one of the song names, too.
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L please
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Yep, that's Cyril's and Tomi's albums now complete (except titles).
Have to say, I'm really digging these albums.
Either Cyril or Tomislav winning confirmed! :corn
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i think ariich meant all the albums in general :lol
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Coyote Kid - Femme Fatale sent by Clortho
Oh and Cowboy Junkies - Murder, Tonight in the Trailer Park
not sure how I missed that one. Also Clortho?
Crimson Glory is probably Clortho too
The Dokken song is Alone Again.......again sent by Clortho
Diablo is probably Luoto and so is the other Communic
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Rough Cutt - Take Her
clortho! dude has so many songs
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i think ariich meant all the albums in general :lol
Oh, yeah I did mean all of them but I can see how my post was confusing. Tons of correct gusses and we're on a new page so will post a full update shortly.
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give me O while you're at it
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Guessed
Clortho: "Love is a Crime" (12 songs)
1. Lizzy Borden – Love is a Crime
2. Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
3. Rough Cutt – Take Her
4. Coyote Kid – Femme Fatale
5. Cowboy Junkies – Murder, Tonight, in the Trailer Park
6. Extreme – Cupid's Dead
7. Leatherwolf – Hideaway
8. Engine – Alone
9. Crimson Glory – Lonely
10. Dokken – Alone Again
11. Badlands – 3 Day Funk
12. Pride and Glory – Hate Your Guts (bonus track)
Cyril: "" (5 songs)
1. Alkaloid – Dyson Sphere
2. Sunless Dawn – Biomorph
3. Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
4. An Abstract Illusion – Skeletons of Light
5. Progenie Terrestre Pura – Proxima:B
Luoto: "A World Made of Haze" (7 songs)
1. Communic – Unpredictables of Life
2. Communic – Waves of Visual Decay
3. Wilderun – Far from Where Dreams Unfurl
4. Oddland – Ire
5. Oddland – Untrue
6. Skein – Cartographer
7. Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
Puppies: "" (7 songs)
1. Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
2. Havukruunu – Jo näkyvi Pohjan portit
3. Shylmagoghnar – Journey Through the Fog
4. Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
5. Equilibrium – Kurzes Epos
6. Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
7. Moonsorrow – Huuto
Tomi: "" (5 songs)
1. Gallowbraid – Oak and Aspen
2. Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon
3. Caladan Brood – Wild Autumn Wind
4. Moonsorrow – Aurinko ja Kuu
5. Moonsorrow – Jotunheim
Hangman remaining album titles
Puppies: Like Fire We Are _a_i__e_ in the Storm
Cyril: __l _me_a a__ __e M___e_ __ __e __i_e__e
Tomi: _a___e a__ _____w
Guessed letters: MWIACLPE
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Leatherwolf - Hideaway
clortho
Badlands is clortho
Equilibrium is puppies
Mystery first artist is clortho
give me O while you're at it
edit: you did it while i was editing this post
Journey Through the Fog
Alone
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And I'll take a P
I'm also going to pee.
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A World Made of Hate, possibly?
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A World Made of Hate, possibly?
A World Made of Wall
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A World Made of Hate, possibly?
So close!
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Haze?
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There it is. I've also thrown in an E for you.
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Haze?
That has to be Luoto
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Haze?
That has to be Luoto
Hurrah!
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Jo näkyvi Pohjan portit (accurate capitalization ;))
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i have no evidence to support this but the first album title is puppies?
"Like Fire We Are ??? In The Storm" ? dunno
3 Day Funk
Engine - Alone
I want someone to guess my album title so that I can share with Luoto the album that's gonna crush him :metal (5th place in the album round)
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Engine - Alone
There's a band I haven't listened to in years.
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Jo näkyvi Pohjan portit (accurate capitalization ;))
Always happy to be corrected by someone who speaks the language! :tup
That's all the songs complete, well done team.
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Like Fire We Are Radishes in the Storm
Probably banished or vanished though :biggrin:
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Cyril's album title ends with Master of the Universe
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Rough Cutt - Take Her
clortho! dude has so many songs
You should have seen how many songs I had at first! I cut at least 5 others.
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Cyril's album title ends with Master of the Universe
close!
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Like Fire We Are Radishes in the Storm
Probably banished or vanished though :biggrin:
I do like your comedy guesses. :lol And yes, it's banished.
Guessed
Clortho: "Love is a Crime" (12 songs)
1. Lizzy Borden – Love is a Crime
2. Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
3. Rough Cutt – Take Her
4. Coyote Kid – Femme Fatale
5. Cowboy Junkies – Murder, Tonight, in the Trailer Park
6. Extreme – Cupid's Dead
7. Leatherwolf – Hideaway
8. Engine – Alone
9. Crimson Glory – Lonely
10. Dokken – Alone Again
11. Badlands – 3 Day Funk
12. Pride and Glory – Hate Your Guts (bonus track)
Cyril: "" (5 songs)
1. Alkaloid – Dyson Sphere
2. Sunless Dawn – Biomorph
3. Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
4. An Abstract Illusion – Skeletons of Light
5. Progenie Terrestre Pura – Proxima:B
Luoto: "A World Made of Haze" (7 songs)
1. Communic – Unpredictables of Life
2. Communic – Waves of Visual Decay
3. Wilderun – Far from Where Dreams Unfurl
4. Oddland – Ire
5. Oddland – Untrue
6. Skein – Cartographer
7. Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
Puppies: "Like Fire We Are Banished in the Storm" (7 songs)
1. Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
2. Havukruunu – Jo näkyvi Pohjan portit
3. Shylmagoghnar – Journey Through the Fog
4. Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
5. Equilibrium – Kurzes Epos
6. Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi
7. Moonsorrow – Huuto
Tomi: "Nature and Sorrow" (5 songs)
1. Gallowbraid – Oak and Aspen
2. Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon
3. Caladan Brood – Wild Autumn Wind
4. Moonsorrow – Aurinko ja Kuu
5. Moonsorrow – Jotunheim
Hangman remaining album titles
Cyril: _ol Ome_a a__ t_e M___e_ of the Universe
Guessed letters: MWIACLPEOT
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Give me O on the album titles
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Sho thang, and I've decided to give you a T as well.
Should be on track to post final results tomorrow evening.
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Nature and Sorrow
Corn @ results
I'm gonna throw together some post-roulette albums again because I have too much music all the time and need to sabotage my future roulette prospects too
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Nature and Sorrow
Congrats you now have nothing left you can guess.
Everyone else, you had one day to guess Cyril's album title. :P
I'm gonna throw together some post-roulette albums again because I have too much music all the time and need to sabotage my future roulette prospects too
Last two times you've done that, you've sent me some of your best stuff.
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Yeah exactly :metal
I'm sending the stuff that didn't meet my criteria so it's the stuff you'll like more than most of what I did send
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Here's some hints for my album title anyways because I'm bored of having it unguessed.
It's got two parts.
1: One of the movement names from one of my songs.
2: Title of one of five albums released by the same band in 2017
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I'm just gonna straight up post my album in like 2 hours when I get home, anyways
I think it's pretty great but I'm ready for ariich to hate it :tup
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The title is Sol Omega and the ? of the Universe
I don't know, show me S
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Here's my album for those that are interested. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TIaBaH5kZJCECwnOe9rXaZ2UDHBIOIHr
I'd recommend downloading it instead of playing from my google drive. Sometimes it has issues with playback.
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The title is Sol Omega and the ? of the Universe
I don't know, show me S
Mostly right. No extra S to show, but I'll give you R
Sol Omega and the M_r_er of the Universe
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So here's the awful flavor post I sent ariich, twice, because I had to keep redoing it every time I changed the link lol,
RECEIVING SIGNAL... ORIGIN UNKNOWN
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01100011 01101100 01000111 00110111 00101011 01001000 01000011 01011000 01000010 01000010 01110100
PARTIAL TRANSMISSION RECEIVED... 20%
01001101 01001111 01000001 01100111 01000101 01001000 01100111 01110001 01101110 01010111 01001000
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01101101 01001010 00110001 00110000 01110111 01000011 01110111 01011001 01000111 01100100 01001101
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00110001 01101100 00111000 01110110 00110111 00110010 00110100 01101001 01101110 01010100 01100111
PARTIAL TRANSMISSION RECEIVED... 50%
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PARTIAL TRANSMISSION RECEIVED... 60%
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PARTIAL TRANSMISSION RECEIVED... 70%
01001100 01001010 01001010 01011000 01111001 01000001 00101111 01100011 01101110 01001011 01111001
PARTIAL TRANSMISSION RECEIVED... 80%
01010111 01101111 01000111 01001101 01010001 00110101 01110100 01100011 01110100 00111000 01001101
PARTIAL TRANSMISSION RECEIVED... 90%
01001111 01111000 01011000 01010100 01011000 01100101 01110100 00111000 00111101
TRANSISSION FULLY RECEIVED.
BEGINNING COMPILING PROCESS... PLEASE WAIT
COMPILING... 15%
COMPILING... 31%
COMPILING... 41%
COMPILING... 57%
COMPILING... 72%
COMPILING... 100%
COMPILATION COMPLETE.
OUTPUTTING TRANSMISSION:
RswKVKJ/FoR
clG7+HCXBBt
MOAgEHgqnWH
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I0nN6OhiGJB
LJJXyA/cnKy
WoGMQ5tct8M
OxXTXet8=
ERROR: TRANSMISSION APPEARS TO BE ENCRYPTED.
PLEASE INPUT THE DECRYPTION KEY TO PROCEED.
>sol_omega
DECRYPTION KEY CONFIRMED. BEGINNING DECRYPTION PROCESS... PLEASE WAIT
DECRYPTING... 20%
DECRYPTING... 40%
DECRYPTING... 60%
DECRYPTING... 80%
DECRYPTING... 100%
DECRYPTION COMPLETE.
OUTPUTTING TRANSMISSION:
https://mega.nz/#!2BNRCKaY!jrPaxdnbEXJmfP_CcDDU6eufoDvU9j4Iyj61SbyxINo
THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING AR-52494348 SYSTEMS. HAVE A NICE DAY.
Story & album cover & additional commentary and stuff all included in the file. Congrats Luoto!
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Is your story an alternate universe take of my story I sent in your last roulette? :biggrin:
Really the only common thread is the death of the universe and subsequent rebirth.
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i watched this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1r_TQY83xk) and then built a lot of my concept around continuing that story, basically :P
and i picked out progenie terrestre pura as the closer early, so the universe had to die
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nice
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Here's my album for those that are interested. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TIaBaH5kZJCECwnOe9rXaZ2UDHBIOIHr
I'd recommend downloading it instead of playing from my google drive. Sometimes it has issues with playback.
Oh and here's my crazy, off the cuff, story. I plan on doing a follow up to it. Or perhaps a prequel. Maybe for TAC's final round in his roulette. I also plan on doing a full rewrite and turn it in to a full on story, based on feedback I get from Ariich, and anyone else who wants to give feedback on it. This was basically written in one evening :P
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SqhmfSUb6GmzU-0xfmnwW-p9Y370no4EDd1pTR2Xfbs
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read the story
y'all love making your concepts end on a really dark note, god :lol
i say that even though mine technically ends with the death of every living being in the universe, but it also ends in rebirth, so......
i'd listen to the album but it's almost 70 minutes and between roulette stuff and life stuff i don't have time atm :lol i'll check it later though since most of the artists on it are already banned anyways or i'm familiar with them (Havukruunu and Equilibrium are the only two I've never heard anything by)
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:corn
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:corn
:soon:
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:corn
:soon:
:corn :corn :corn
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Almost finished write-ups. I'll post results in reverse order this time...
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So, 1st place first? :corn
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Final results, part 1
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Clortho
"Love is a Crime"
1. Lizzy Borden – Love is a Crime
2. Bang Tango – Sweet Little Razor
3. Rough Cutt – Take Her
4. Coyote Kid – Femme Fatale
5. Cowboy Junkies – Murder, Tonight, in the Trailer Park
6. Extreme – Cupid's Dead
7. Leatherwolf – Hideaway
8. Engine – Alone
9. Crimson Glory – Lonely
10. Dokken – Alone Again
11. Badlands – 3 Day Funk
12. Pride and Glory – Hate Your Guts (bonus track)
First impressions: Enjoyable collection of songs. The album’s theme works fine but I feel could have benefited from more narrative. Covers some similar ground you’ve sent throughout this roulette, but I wonder if you might have been better off focusing more on what did well.
Final opinion on each artist:
There are just too many artists here so I’m not going to try and cover every single one in detail, so I'll cover them in some loose groupings.
- There a few songs that have a real sense of swagger and charisma, which I quite enjoy. The Lizzy Borden isn't something I completely love, but it's got a fun vibe, a catchy chorus and great use of horns. The real standout here is Extreme, which is a blast. No idea why I've never really checked them out before but I'll definitely be rectifying that now. Fantastic groove that reminds me of mid-era Red Hot Chilli Peppers but much more rocking and virtuosic. The other good example is the Badlands song, which isn't anything mind-blowing but is good fun.
- There are a couple of moodier songs that I dig. Probably my favourite on the album, just edging out Extreme, is the Coyote Kid song (although as you know this was your banned artists quota as you sent me the same band with a different name in round 1 - still, am glad the quality is still there!) which has a great folky vibe. Completely different style but also moody and pretty solid is the Engine song - really hard to know from just one track how much I'll like them overall, but I like this one a fair bit.
- I really like the laid back vibe of the Cowboy Junkies song, which is kind of bluesy and kind of down tempo and pretty unique on the album in being so chilled. The bonus track by Pride and Glory is also kind of laid back, in a way, and I appreciate it's just a bonus track so although I don't find it very interesting, it's a fun little coda.
- There are a few songs in more of a glam rock/metal bring, which is generally not an easy sell for me, and these are a bit of a mixed bag. The Crimson Glory is actually pretty good and I’ll probably check them out, and the Leatherwolf is enjoyable enough if not especially exciting, but the Dokken I find fairly boring I'm afraid.
- The other two (Bang Tango and Rough Cutt), I don't really have anything to say about other than the fact that they just don't interest me much.
Overall quality: 5th place in round = 4 points
There's lots to enjoy here, but only about half of it interests me much. Which, to be fair, is not a bad hit rate when you send 12 different artists, but it is what it is. I've got some very cool music to check out from this, which I'm really grateful for, but as an album it's definitely the weakest of the bunch.
Musical flow: 3/5
With so many short snippets of each band, I find it hard to get a sense of what they're all like, which makes it harder to immerse myself in the music. There are no complete outliers or anything, so the general flow is decent and you therefore get a pretty reasonable score, but musically it very much feels just like a collection of songs rather than an album.
Narrative flow: 3.5/5
This was one of two thematic albums (or at least, if there was a story, you didn't tell me what it was!) but it does a good job of providing a narrative thread. I like how the songs are in loose groupings and go from lust through frustration, violence and depsair to lonelieness, with a jolly bonus of resentment at the end.
Score: 4 + 3 + 3.5 = 10.5 points
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Tomi
"Nature and Sorrow"
1. Gallowbraid – Oak and Aspen
2. Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon
3. Caladan Brood – Wild Autumn Wind
4. Moonsorrow – Aurinko ja Kuu [The Sun and the Moon]
5. Moonsorrow – Jotunheim
First impressions: Very atmospheric. Wasn’t digging it at the start but it definitely gets better as it progresses. Definitely one of the most coherent-feeling of the round, musically at least.
Final opinion on each artist:
- Gallowbraid - To be honest, I wasn't really digging these two songs at all at first. I think my initial reaction to them wasn't helped by the YouTube playlist format, as the sound wasn't super strong and was inconsistent between songs. So I downloaded all the songs to make my own playlist, which helped the album as a whole but these were particular growers. Still not sure I love them unfortunately - some of the more black metal moments in particular feel a bit thin - but I like the folk metal vibe and the general atmosphere. On balance, I prefer Ashen Eidolon which I think is a much stronger and more immersive song overall, but I think you made the right call to start with the other song as the acoustic intro works great as an opener and really sets the scene for the album.
- Caladan Brood - Similar to Gallowbraid, this is solid enough and there are things I like about it, but I don't love it. Melodically and harmonically, there's loads of nice stuff going on, especially in the first half. It's just a bit lacking in energy. I don't mean it should be faster or more upbeat or anything like that, there's just something about the performance and production that sounds a bit lethargic. There's a really good moment that builds up towards the end and the last few minutes are generally pretty strong, but that does highlight to me how long it took the song to get to that point.
- Moonsorrow - Really pleased to have got three Moonsorrow songs this round, each from a different album and all really good. They seem to have a really rich, gorgeous sound rooted very much in folk metal and clearly with a strong black metal element, but even in the heavy moments they don’t generally feel aggressive. It’s a really great sound and more than any other black(ened) metal I received this round, there’s a strange warmth to their stuff. Your two songs also tonally fit really well with your nature and sorrow theme. The opening to Jotunheim especially is really beautifully sad. Definitely the strongest part of your album and it makes me excited to explore their music.
Overall quality: 4th place in round = 6.5 points
I feel a bit mean placing this fourth as I like everything on it, but it was a strong round and really it's only the Moonsorrow that particularly excites me here. The other two were growers that I ended up enjoying enough to probably check out the albums they're from, but I don't like them enough to make this as strong overall as the albums above it.
Musical flow: 4.5/5
This is the best of the round for musical flow. The consistency of mood and style throughout the album is excellently balanced so that it feels coherent, but it doesn't get boring as there's enough variety within and between songs. Structuring it as you did, simply moving from one artist to the next instead of mixing it up, can sometimes feel boring, but it works great here because it makes the album feel like it's progressing.
Narrative flow: 2.5/5
I appreciate you went for a theme rather than a story, and you get points for how well this theme links all the songs together. I would have quite liked if there was a bit more narrative flow though - I've delved into the lyrics but don't really get a sense of the theme developing like I do with Clortho's album.
Score: 6.5 + 4.5 + 2.5 = 13.5 points
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Final scores:
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4. (=) Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 + 11.0 + 6.5 + 10.0 + 4.0 + 13.5 = 66.0
5. (=) Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 + 4.5 + 9.5 + 4.0 + 6.5 + 10.5 = 61.5
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By the way, this round alone has probably more than doubled my knowledge of folk/black metal. :lol
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By the way, this round alone has probably more than doubled my knowledge of folk/black metal. :lol
Mission accomplished! :leaveseyes:
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Final: first impressions
Three impressions per concept album.
2. The story-telling seems pretty cool and imaginative.
4. There wasn’t anything that hugely jumped out at me on first listen.
5. All the songs seem pretty solid and there’s a good consistency of tone.
6. Rich storytelling although not yet sure it really links all that well to some of the lyrics.
7. This is ridiculously epic.
9. One of the artists is one I’d wondered if you’d send me, and I’m glad you did as it’s probably the best thing here.
10. Pretty dark and emotionally intense.
13. Nice storytelling though not sure the music entirely fits the narrative in the latter stages.
15. I thought it might be a bit one-track initially but actually there’s some nice variety, even if it doesn’t always hit the mark.
What's left...
Puppies: 6, 9, 10
Me: 5, 7, 13
Luoto: 2, 4, 15
Maybe? Dunno really. Sorta feel like puppies is gonna be the round winner but dunno who of me & luoto is gonna come out on top here
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I'd swap 6 and 13.
After listening through my album again, I'm no longer happy with a couple of the transitions. I feel like I could have done more with them. Oh well...
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Granted I don't know what Luoto's conceptual story is yet :corn
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Unable to focus at work because I keep refreshing for updates heck yeah kill me ariich :metal :metal :corn :corn
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Can't decide how long to prolong the suspense.
I'm basically finished, so I could post the rest all together.
Or I could just post who came third in the round, and then go to bed and post the rest in the morning... :angel:
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I'd literally kill you if you did that.
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Just straight up fly out to the UK, commit murder, fly back to the US and nobody will be the wiser.
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Think about it :tup
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I time travelled to the future.
Now that I'm back, I'd like to say:
Congrats Luoto!
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I think he went to bed.
Well I didn't do that great, but I gave you a few bands that you seemed to like. The new Coyote Kid comes out this Friday (I think) so check it out. It is really good.
Yeah, my story and narrative flow was really in the song titles.
Thanks for having me. It was fun.
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Yeah the narrative to me reads like "guy falls in love with a girl, kills her, is lonely for 3 days then gets over it" just from the song titles alone :P
Ariich was active like 2 minutes ago he can't be asleep yet :getoffmylawn:
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Final results, part 2 of 2
Part 1 (Clortho and Tomi) here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54225.msg2594422#msg2594422
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Luoto
"A World Made of Haze"
1. Communic – Waves of Visual Decay
2. Communic – Unpredictables of Life
3. Wilderun – Far from Where Dreams Unfurl
4. Oddland – Ire
5. Oddland – Untrue
6. Skein – Cartographer
7. Diablo – Grace Under Pressure
First impressions: Nice storytelling though not sure the music entirely fits the narrative in the latter stages. All the songs seem pretty solid and there’s a good consistency of tone. There wasn’t anything that hugely jumped out at me on first listen.
Final opinion on each artist:
- Communic - One of the biggest growers of the round. My first reaction was that it was decent prog metal but nothing special. I still wouldn’t say it’s mind-blowing or anything, but it’s really solid and there’s some fantastic stuff between the two songs. I gather from the difference in production that Waves is the older one - it’s a little rougher around the edges, but it has some great tunes. Unpredictables feels immediately punchier, more riff-driven and with tighter production. Surprising Nevermore vibe to it at times too. It’s a great tune, and I’ve come to absolutely love the chorus.
- Wilderun (banned artist quota) - If I factored this into your overall quality score, you might have placed higher in the round, because it’s a lovely song. I think it serves the story well so I can see why you’ve included it anyway. Interesting that there are no harsh vocals at all on it, but it’s a great bit of cinematic folk metal and I’m looking forward to the new album very much!
- Oddland - Pretty interesting prog metal, but on balance the weakest on the album because although I find them really intriguing, I never find myself really getting into it. There’s some Opeth in their harmonic approach (particularly in Ire), but they’re definitely quirkier and proggier and there are moments that remind me of Pain of Salvation. The mix is unusual and in principle is right up my alley, the biggest thing holding it back for me is a lack of hooks, and I find it hard to really remember anything about either song even after multiple listens. I think the style fits the narrative well, but musically feels maybe slightly out of place with the rest of the album.
- Skein - Back in strong territory with a really top notch bit of… post-metal maybe? Whatever it is, it’s a really engaging mix of melancholy and intensity. The opening in particular is really moody and reflective, and fits so well with your storytelling at this point both lyrically and musically. I’m not sure the heavy sections really fit with the story at all here though, which is a bit of an issue for the flow of the album, but it’s a great song overall and I’m looking forward to checking these guys out.
- Diablo - This feels like the most familiar territory for your roulette submissions (Finnish and broadly in a melodic death metal vein, although the vocals are pretty unique for the genre), and it’s a great way to end the album both for that reason and also because it’s just a cracking tune. Not convinced the mood is really upbeat enough for the surprisingly positive ending to the story, but the song has a great atmosphere and a fantastic chorus.
Overall quality: 3rd place in round = 7.5 points
Mostly really great stuff and lots of stuff for me to check out. The Wilderun is fantastic but I have to ignore it for this score. Most of the rest is excellent, the main weak point just being Oddland who are still pretty cool, just don’t really grab me. The key difference between this and the two albums that placed above it is simply that the highs aren’t as high.
Musical flow: 3.5/5
Oddland are being the bugger again, because apart from them I think there’s a real consistency of tone and approach that makes the album mostly flow well, even though the songs cover some pretty different styles. The transitions from song to song work well too.
Narrative flow: 4/5
Another example of really good storytelling and imaginative use of the lyrics to craft a pretty engaging tale. Of the three story-based albums, this one is the most grounded and personal, and it works well. On lyrics alone this might have competed with Cyril in terms of narrative, but as noted above there are places where the music doesn’t seem to do a great job of supporting that narrative.
Score: 7.5 + 3.5 + 4 = 15 points
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Cyril
"Sol Omega and the Murder of the Universe"
1. Alkaloid – Dyson Sphere [I. Mining the Oort Cloud; II. Assembly; III. Kardashev II.1; IV. Sol Omega]
2. Sunless Dawn – Biomorph [I. Polarity Portrayed; II. Collide into Being; III. Between Meadow and Mire]
3. Shade Empire – Anti-Life Saviour
4. An Abstract Illusion – Skeletons of Light
5. Progenie Terrestre Pura – [.Proxima:B.]
First impressions: This is ridiculously epic. I thought it might be a bit one-track initially but actually there’s some nice variety, even if it doesn’t always hit the mark. The story-telling seems pretty cool and imaginative.
Final opinion on each artist:
- Alkaloid - I like this, but I don't love it. It fits well with the rest of the album and especially the story (more on that below) but in and of itself, I find it a bit tonally jarring. It's fairly heavy, but also quite cheesy and full of basically every sci-fi trope/cliche. Things like rhyming "interlace" with "Hilbert space" just make it sound like death metal Ayreon, which is a combination I struggle to really engage with. The way it ends is fantastic though, and a fantastic transition into...
- Sunless Dawn - This has quite a lot in common with the previous song, but is a step up in quality, to my ears at least. The cheesiness is gone and there's a much more atmospheric and organic approach. Love the use of choirs, the whole song has a really grand and cinematic feel to it, and more intensity too which is partly helped by the production which is really strong and clear. Will definitely be checking this album out.
- Shade Empire - This is one of the joint best songs of the round, it's absolutely fantastic. It's a real grower too, it wasn't a favourite at first but now I adore it. Again a nice development in the sound and narrative of the album, more organic again but also probably the most epic in feel. The main motif that first comes in after the spoken word excerpts of Milton (and is reprised throughout) is absolutely huge and really beautiful, almost heart-breaking tonally. It’s just really exciting music all round. This is the peak of the album for me and I can't get enough of it.
- An Abstract Illusion - The transition into this one is done nicely, though there's a bit of a shift in style that creates the first slightly jarring moment of the album for me. It's another strong track, maybe a smidge below the Sunless Dawn but broadly comparable. It's probably the proggiest thing on here and brings a good bit of variety despite still being on the death-black metal spectrum like everything else.
- Progenie Terrestre Pura - I love the storytelling idea of this song's inclusion, but as a song its by far the weakest of the bunch. It's not terrible, but the more low-fi approach doesn't really work for me and while the electronic elements are kind of cool, the core metal sound I find quite bland. Just not really interested in listening to this again.
Overall quality: 2nd place in round = 8.5 points
While Puppies' album was a little up and down in quality, it starts and ends really strongly, whereas this is the opposite. How much I like the album is pretty much a bell curve. The three middle songs are all very strong and the peak is amazing, but overall it's let down a bit by a weaker start and finish that make the overall experience slightly less enjoyable.
Musical flow: 4/5
Overall this has a very good flow musically. It's fairly consistent in its general style and there's not a huge difference in vocal styles which helps it feel coherent. The sound does develop though, and while some shifts are smoother than others, you did the transitions excellently which definitely helped make this feel like a real album.
Narrative flow: 4.5/5
I didn't really expect anyone to achieve 5/5 here but this comes close as it's really rather brilliant storytelling. Of course it will never be perfect taking songs from different albums, but you took the subject of each song and built that into your narrative in imaginative and surprisingly detailed ways. Reading through the lyrics, with only a few exceptions your story really does link everything nicely together. The story itself is ludicrously epic to the point of being slightly over the top, like a Stephen Baxter novel. :lol
Score: 8.5 + 4 + 4.5 = 17 points
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Puppies
"Like Fire We Are Banished in the Storm"
1. Pillorian – By the Light of a Black Sun
2. Havukruunu – Jo Näkyvi Pohjan Portit [Where You Can See the North Gates]
3. Shylmagoghnar – Journey Through the Fog
4. Fen – Our Names Written in Embers Pt. 2 (Beacons of Sorrow)
5. Equilibrium – Kurzes Epos [Short Epic]
6. Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi [Whose Sorrows Are Ringing]
7. Moonsorrow – Huuto [The Scream]
First impressions: Pretty dark and emotionally intense. Rich storytelling although not yet sure it really links all that well to some of the lyrics. One of the artists is one I’d wondered if you’d send me, and I’m glad you did as it’s probably the best thing here.
Final opinion on each artist:
- Pillorian - Solid black metal to kick things off. Wasn't entirely sure about this at first because I think the song does take a little bit of time to get interesting, but it's a real grower and the more sorrowful folky section in the middle really adds a lot. It works excellently as a scene-setter for the album, with a cold, bleak vibe that fits perfectly into the narrative setting and is present throughout the rest of the album.
- Havukruunu - OK, two songs for these guys, and I like them but I feel like they’re slightly hit and miss. I love the dark folky side of the music (both the acoustic and the folk metal) - there’s a great vibe and an emotional intensity to it which fits well with the story at these points. Oddly enough, it’s in the outright black metal sections that I mostly find the music a bit less engaging and therefore less intense (Kelle Surut Soi has less of this and I find a bit stronger overall). So, a bit inconsistent, but interesting enough to make we want to check out the album these are from.
- Shylmagoghnar - Back to strong territory again. That dark folk vibe continues, but the whole sound and quality of this song is the best thing up to this point. Really moody, quite intense, and matched by a nice punchy production. Not sure exactly how to categorise this, possibly somewhere between folk, black and death metal? Either way, it’s pretty immersive. The main riff that comes a few minutes is a particularly good hook (folk metal riffs can border on cheesy sometimes but this feels convincing), and the instrumental sections that pop up from then on are wonderfully atmospheric.
- Fen - Your transitions throughout the album are mostly really good and natural, but this one is quite jarring. As Cyril noted, I already knew Fen’s Winter and wasn’t the biggest fan, my main issue being that it just seemed overly long and not enough happened. I feel somewhat the same way about this. It’s decent enough, it fits with the vibe of the album, and lyrically it works with the story, but it does just plod along. It’s not bad at all, but it is the weakest on the album and hasn’t changed my mind about Fen.
- Equilibrium - An interesting choice this one, it’s still in that folk metal vein but instrumental, and much more upbeat and adventurous. I like how in the story it represents a vision of what had come before. I’m not sure it quite fits with the musical flow of the rest. However, in and of itself, it’s cracking fun and covers a lot of different ground. Very interested to check the band out fully as I’ve no idea what to expect from the vocals now!
- Moonsorrow - I’ve seen you plug Moonsorrow so many times and so honestly wondered if you were going to send me something by them. I know very little about them - I’m sure I’d previously heard a song at some point, but my vague and possibly incorrect recollection was of drawn out, poorly produced black metal. So I was slightly apprehensive. But I had nothing at all to worry about - this was an early favourite of the entire round, and I absolutely love it and it’s ended up joint favourite with one other. It still has that icy vibe that you’ve kept throughout the album, but it also has a warm beauty to it, like a sunny winter’s day. It’s richly melodic and just dripping with atmosphere, even in the heavy sections. This round had a lot of strong stuff, but ending with this song really makes this album stand out because it leaves me with such a buzz and a desire to listen to it again after I finish.
Overall quality: Round winner = 10 points
Not quite the strongest on either musical or narrative flow, but the clear round winner on overall quality. Even the weaker material is solid enough, so it’s all pretty consistent, and the highs are so high. It’s paced well too - the best stuff isn’t all clumped together, it’s engaging from the start and the end is such a wonderful experience.
Musical flow: 4/5
Really good musical flow throughout, helped by staying within a folk/black metal spectrum but moving around a fair bit within that. There’s one jarring transition which I think is mainly because the production of the two songs is so different, and the Equilibrium feels tonally slightly out of place, but these are minor quibbles, generally the album flows great.
Narrative flow: 4/5
Great storytelling for this, and the way you essentially turned your narrative into a short novel, with characters and dialogue, really brought it to life. The setting and the cold feel remind me quite a lot of Horizon Zero Dawn, only more bleak. I think the story and the music match really well, and the writing made great use of snippets from the lyrics (or their translations). If I have one minor criticism, there are moments where the narrative interpretation of the lyrics feels a bit of a stretch. But it works well, and I like the intense but somewhat open ending.
Score: 10 + 4 + 4 = 18 points
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Final scores and thanks:
1. (=) Luoto = 7.0 + 7.0 + 11.0 + 10.5 + 10.0 + 7.0 + 8.5 + 15.0 = 76.0
2. (=) Cyril = 9.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 7.5 + 8.5 + 12.0 + 17.0 = 75.0
3. (=) Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 + 9.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 5.5 + 9.0 + 18.0 = 71.5
4. (=) Tomi = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 + 11.0 + 6.5 + 10.0 + 4.0 + 13.5 = 66.0
5. (=) Clortho = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 + 4.5 + 9.5 + 4.0 + 6.5 + 10.5 = 61.5
Congrats Luoto! Your performance in the last three rounds was a little middling, but thanks to your ridiculous lead after round 5 it was solid enough to hold the others at bay. I’m glad to say that you did achieve the highest average rating of anyone, so I’m glad that my scoring system didn’t screw anyone over. Very well deserved, and almost everything you sent is something I want to dive into and explore more.
Cyril, so close again (arguably even closer)! Your comeback after only scraping through round 5 was pretty remarkable but not quite enough. In general, considering your efforts to introduce me to stuff that you’ve really been into recently without really knowing how much I’d like it (and some of it was damn risky), I’m really impressed with how much I have liked stuff more than I thought I might have. It’s part of why I really genuinely value having you in my roulettes (as well as of course the fact that you send me some amazing stuff too).
Puppies, it was a long shot for you to be able to win, but damn you took a good shot at it. A couple of weaker rounds let you down, but otherwise you consistently sent me so much great stuff, and I feel like you’ve got a better handle on my tastes since my last roulette, and you’ve done a lot better while sending me a much more varied range of styles. Can’t wait to explore some of the artists you sent me.
Tomi, it was a strong performance and you scored better than anyone else who’s new to my roulettes, just not quite consistent enough to challenge for the title in the end. Wishbone Ash is probably the one I’m most excited about (thank you for plugging that gap!) but there are a bunch of others I’m looking forward to delving into.
Clortho, my most inconsistent friend who never came outside the top 2 or bottom 2, thanks for introducing me to such a varied and enjoyable range of different artists and styles. You sent me three of my absolute favourites of the whole roulette, two of which I’ve already purchased and the other I’m excited to start exploring more (Blue October). Shame the other stuff never quite hit my tastes as much but I couldn’t be happier that you took part.
I’d also like to thank everyone else who participated. Everyone who got eliminated in Round 5 sent me at least two 8+ rated albums, which means I’m almost certainly going to end up purchasing them. And everyone who didn’t make it past the prelim, I’m sorry you didn’t get to fully participate but I will check out those albums, and there will be future no-elimination roulette opportunities for you to send me everything you’ve got.
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Goodnight, ariich!
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I think he went to bed.
Well I didn't do that great, but I gave you a few bands that you seemed to like. The new Coyote Kid comes out this Friday (I think) so check it out. It is really good.
Yeah, my story and narrative flow was really in the song titles.
Thanks for having me. It was fun.
Nope didn't go to bed, I was writing thanks to everyone because I wanted to really express how wonderful this roulette has been for my musical discovery. And then I was trying to format everything in the post. :lol
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Congrats Luoto!
The point gap was too big to overcome but I'm satisfied with placing 2nd & 2nd yet again :P
Amusing that the two songs that shaped most of the narrative ended up being your least favorites but I'm also not super surprised by it. The Sunless Dawn album is the one here I was considering sending in the album rounds proper, anyways, and literally everyone I've ever sent it to has loved Shade Empire so I knew I had to work that in somewhere :P
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I'm looking at the scores and just going "Congrats Luoto!" because that's a big lead lol
Also, yeah, I saw this coming a mile away too :lol
If I'd sent literally anything other than warforged in round 6 I coulda had this :getoffmylawn:
Anyways I'm gonna see if I can put together a good old fashioned batch of 10 or so albums to send because I Can't Hold All These Albums Oh God Why
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Congrats Luoto!
The point gap was too big to overcome but I'm satisfied with placing 2nd & 2nd yet again :P
Yeah it was always going to be a challenge, but if Luoto had screwed up, or you'd won the round, it would have been a different story. Maybe next time!
Also damn you really can time travel!
Amusing that the two songs that shaped most of the narrative ended up being your least favorites but I'm also not super surprised by it.
Yeah for sure, and it's hard to know if I'd have liked the flow and storytelling nearly as much without them, but musically they definitely feel the weakest to me.
literally everyone I've ever sent it to has loved Shade Empire so I knew I had to work that in somewhere :P
I literally just can't get enough of that and Huuto. I've become a bit obsessed with both those songs (and to slightly lesser extent, Jotunheim).
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Anyways I'm gonna see if I can put together a good old fashioned batch of 10 or so albums to send because I Can't Hold All These Albums Oh God Why
Looking forward to hearing all the albums that would have won the roulette for you if you'd sent them instead of Warforged. :P
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Final: first impressions
Three impressions per concept album.
2. The story-telling seems pretty cool and imaginative.
4. There wasn’t anything that hugely jumped out at me on first listen.
5. All the songs seem pretty solid and there’s a good consistency of tone.
6. Rich storytelling although not yet sure it really links all that well to some of the lyrics.
7. This is ridiculously epic.
9. One of the artists is one I’d wondered if you’d send me, and I’m glad you did as it’s probably the best thing here.
10. Pretty dark and emotionally intense.
13. Nice storytelling though not sure the music entirely fits the narrative in the latter stages.
15. I thought it might be a bit one-track initially but actually there’s some nice variety, even if it doesn’t always hit the mark.
What's left...
Puppies: 6, 9, 10
Me: 5, 7, 13
Luoto: 2, 4, 15
Maybe? Dunno really. Sorta feel like puppies is gonna be the round winner but dunno who of me & luoto is gonna come out on top here
Other time travelling semi-evidence; everything related to puppies' album here was right, but I got most of me & Luoto's impressions backwards (except the one I called as mine from the start)
Brb changing my career path to clairvoyant
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So what you're saying is: you're pretty clairvoyant, but not that clairvoyant, and not enough to actually know how to win the roulette. :P
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My predictions are always right 30% of the time.
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Yay, I won something for once :lol
Oddland are technically the most different band out of all the others I sent in this roulette, so it's not terribly surprising they were your least favourite. Their catch is often in rhythmic grooves as much as vocal melody, and Ire mostly improvises over one chord progression. Diablo are more like slightly proggy thrash, though I can see where you got the melodeath vibes from.
Another interesting note is I considered sending the Moonsorrow album Huuto is on. Definitely my favourite of theirs.
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Ire is probably my favorite song from them so far, tbh, both those albums are pretty good though
Honestly looking back at the round 5 scores it's a minor miracle I was able to go from 8 points behind Luoto to only one point behind in the span of a mere 3 rounds, I'm proud of that if nothing else :lol
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I'm super stoked that you enjoyed Moonsorrow so much. So much so, that I couldn't care less if you even liked the rest of the songs on my album :biggrin:
Even though I sent you Huuto, I would recommend listening to the Kivenkantaja album all the way through first and then work your way forward chronologically. Don't forget the EP Tulimyrsky that was released in 2008. The title track alone is worth it, but the other tracks (covers and re-recorded demos) are awesome as well. My favorite album is Verisakeet, but they are all excellent. Even the albums before Kivenkantaja.
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My predictions are always right 30% of the time.
Since you are the holy guide of the 4/10, wouldn't that be 40%?
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My predictions are always right 30% of the time.
Since you are the holy guide of the 4/10, wouldn't that be 40%?
it's a reference that nobody will get :P
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I'm super stoked that you enjoyed Moonsorrow so much. So much so, that I couldn't care less if you even liked the rest of the songs on my album :biggrin:
Even though I sent you Huuto, I would recommend listening to the Kivenkantaja album all the way through first and then work your way forward chronologically. Don't forget the EP Tulimyrsky that was released in 2008. The title track alone is worth it, but the other tracks (covers and re-recorded demos) are awesome as well. My favorite album is Verisakeet, but they are all excellent. Even the albums before Kivenkantaja.
I'm too excited by the songs you and Tomi sent (Huuto and Jotunheim especially) to not start with those albums, so I'm doing that. But don't worry, I'll work my way through them.
By the way, as ever people are welcome to send me post-roulette things to check out as well (I will check out probably everything that got eliminated in the prelim) but just a heads up that my next roulette will be sometime in maybe earlyish 2020 (basically once I finish working my way through everything from this one) and it'll almost certainly be an inclusive, no frills, no eliminations, no prelim song roulette with as many participants as want to play (I can handle 10 albums, so I can easily handle 20+ songs if it comes to it). So if you'd be interested in that, it might be worth avoiding Cyril's usual mistake of leaving nothing to send next time. :P
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hey, i called out in my PM that i saved all the stuff i had confidence in! i had 15 albums and cut it to 10 to keep the once i think you'd like most, so yes, i have 5 albums lined up for next roulette
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Ok so I'm going to be providing some post-roulette updates over probably the next few weeks. I have a bunch of stuff to check out from various different categories:
1. All the albums that contain the songs that were sent in the prelim.
2. A whole load of albums (at least one per artist, probably more) from the greatest hits round.
3. A whole load of albums (not every artist, but most of them) from the concept album round.
4. Cyril's usual collection of post-roulette albums (nine of them... he sent me ten but one is already covered in category 3 above).
I'll probably largely go through them in the order above, but I'm not going to be strict about it and in fact there were a few artists from categories 2 and 3 I was desperate to check out first.
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Let me find a 10th one for you then :metal
Edit: sent #10
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Jingle
Mystery – Lies and Butterflies (2018)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
Dude, turns out your lack of success in the prelim was just due to your choice of song. It’s nicer in the context of the album, but overall I still find it the weakest of the bunch. This is a really strong album and it’s improved my opinion of Mystery significantly, such that I’ll check out at least some of their other albums as well now. The stuff that really stands out is the proggier material. Looking for Something Else is probably my favourite as it’s just an all-round excellent song - if you’d sent me that, you’d have definitely made it past the prelim. Other favourites are Something to Believe In (which has a brilliant instrumental) and Chrysalis (which is a great closer).
Rating: 8/10
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Luoto
In Mourning – The Weight of Oceans (2012)
Category 2: Compilation artists
Yep, this is really great stuff. Doesn’t have quite the same atmosphere as my very favourite melodic death metal, but then it does other things and has some good variety including pretty nice use of clean vocals at times. Every song is solid and some of them are fantastic, including the two you included in your compilation. Based on the quality of both this album and your compilation, I’m definitely going to be checking out every album of theirs, including the new one which I’ve heard very good things about.
Rating: 8.5/10
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Puppies & Tomi
Moonsorrow – Varjoina kuljemme kuolleiden maassa (2011) & Verisäkeet (2005)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Ok so yeah these guys could end up becoming a favourite of mine. Both albums are pretty amazing. I gather that Verisäkeet is considered one of their top albums while VKKM is slightly less popular. But there’s something about the latter that I just find really special - everything that I adored about Huuto is there in spades throughout the whole album. It’s just really rich and beautiful while still being heavy. Don’t get me wrong, Verisäkeet is excellent too but I definitely find it a little less immediately appealing and accessible. These are only early thoughts though, excited to continue to get to know these and their other albums better.
Rating: 9/10 (VKKM) & 8.5/10 (Verisäkeet)
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Cyril
Shade Empire – Poetry Of The Ill-Minded (2017)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Damn this is an amazing album. The song from your concept album is an amazing centerpiece, but it’s all fantastic. The style is an interesting one too, a sort of blend of symphonic black metal with aspects of melodic death metal (to my ears, anyway). I can only assume you were saving this for your concept album from earlier on, because if you weren’t then I don’t understand why you didn’t send. One of my favourite discoveries of the roulette.
Rating: 9/10
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I didn't save anything for my concept, I just personally don't like any of the other songs nearly as much as the one I sent :P
It's also an album I've had since your first album roulette so good to know I've been sleeping on for three roulettes now :lol
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Don't forget the greatest hits I sent you :P
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Don't forget the greatest hits I sent you :P
I haven't forgotten! It's on my list as part of category 2. :)
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TAC
Idle Hands – Mana (2019)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
I’ve found myself enjoying this a fair bit more than I thought I would based on the prelim song. Like with the Mystery that Chad sent, this has a combination of the song working better in the context of the album, and also it being, to my ears, one of the weaker ones on here (mainly because of that counting bit which I still find a little corny). While it may still not quite hit the 8/10 mark for me, most of the album is really solid and there are few strong songs like the closer which ends on a high note.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Romdrums
In the Presence of Wolves – Thalassas (2014)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
Yeah so my feelings about the album are exactly as they were about the prelim song. These guys have so much potential and there’s so much to like about this album, but it’s just massively let down by weak vocals. The instrumental performances are top-notch, the writing is pretty exciting and dynamic, and the production is punchy and professional. Considering all of that, I just find it so bizarre that the vocals are so much below the standard of everything else. There are some great moments (especially in Hypoxia) but there are too many lines where the singing is uncomfortably out of tune.
Rating: 7/10
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Elite
Major Parkinson – Blackbox (2017)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
This is another one with tons of potential but an execution that doesn’t quite work for me. My opinions on the prelim song pretty much apply to everything else. The songs all have some nice build up, but it feels to me like they never actually reach the thing they’re building up to. I think perhaps the very restrained (often whispered) vocals may play a part in that. There’s still lots to like though - it’s got a great, dark moody vibe to it, a really unique sound, and on the rare occasion the music does actually break a little (particularly in Isabel) it’s pretty great stuff.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Stadler
The Cult – Sonic Temple (1989)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
Yeah this is pretty much what I expected from the prelim song - very enjoyable late 80s hard rock but nothing that massively grabs me. The sound and performances are really slick and there are few strong songs, especially in the first half of the album (Sweet Soul Sister I particularly enjoy). I do find it all a little samey though and some of the songs don’t have particularly strong hooks, and so I lose interest a bit in the second half of the album.
Rating: 7/10
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The second In The Presence Of Wolves album is much better. The vocals sound pretty different on it too.
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i like both a lot myself & prefer the vocals on the first album, tbh :P
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Same kinda, which is why I said "different" and not "better" :lol But if Ariich doesn't like the vocals on the first he might like them more on the second, who knows.
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Yeah I think I might well give it a listen at some point. To be clear, it's not the vocal style that bothers me, it's the fact that he sings out of tune too much.
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if he sings out of tune i guess i never really noticed it :lol
their other release is really just a 30ish minute EP so it'd be pretty quick to check out if you wanted, too. they were pretty fun when i saw 'em with TYS earlier this year, anyways
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They fucking SLAY live.
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Post-roulette updates, part 3/?
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Sacul
Slowdive – Souvlaki (1993)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
Yeah this is nice stuff, but I feel the same way about the album as a whole as I did about the prelim. It's warm and atmospheric, and there some particularly nice moments where it goes a little more downtempo. I also appreciate that the album was clearly quite influential in the 90s shoegaze movement. With engaging vocals I could see myself really liking this a lot, but as it is the melodies and the delivery are just a bit bland and they let the music down.
Rating: 7/10
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Mile Marker Zero – The Fifth Row (2018)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
This is another one that unfortunately seems to have suffered due to the choice of song. Not that there's anything wrong with it at all, it's a decent opener that does a good job as prelude/intro to the concept album, it's just not as interesting as some of the material that comes later on. There's loads of good stuff throughout the album and it feels pretty coherent, despite being quite proggy and varied. It doesn't blow me away or anything, but it's a strong album overall and the sci-fi concept, while not the most original perhaps, is done pretty nicely.
Rating: 8/10
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BIZKIT
The Pineapple Thief – Dissolution (2018)
Category 1: Prelim elimination
I feel I should like this album more than I do - there's not a single specific fault I can find with it… I just don't find it especially interesting. And it hasn't shifted my perception of TPT as being PT-lite. It has a nice groove, it's really thoughtful and the production is lovely and clear. But it doesn't have the intensity of PT's later stuff, nor does it have the harmonic richness of their mid-era material. It's consistently pleasant but it's never exciting, and for what is clearly a thoughtful and emotional album, it never quite does enough to make me really feel that emotion (although All That You've Done comes closest, lovely song).
Rating: 7.5/10
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That's all the prelims done, and I'm really glad I checked them all out as there were some really nice surprises and two 4 star albums that I'll probably end up getting. :tup Will probably move mostly on to compilation artists now.
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Well. You're already done with my compilation artist :lol
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That's a fair assessment, I don't know why I sent it, guess I had to try, but prob not a good idea on a prelim round :P
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hot damn they put my greatest hits compilation on a CD and sold it in japan :neverusethis:
https://unearthly-vision.bandcamp.com/merch/1-3-japan-special-edition-cd
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That's a fair assessment, I don't know why I sent it, guess I had to try, but prob not a good idea on a prelim round :P
I love that you send me all sorts of interesting and different things, but yeah not sure it was the best idea for a prelim.
As I've said before, my next roulette will be open to everyone and have no eliminations at all (so it'll need to be songs rather than albums but my current thinking is two songs by the same artist) so all those who have been unlucky with tactical decisions on what to send when will have the chance to send me whatever they like in whichever round.
hot damn they put my greatest hits compilation on a CD and sold it in japan :neverusethis:
https://unearthly-vision.bandcamp.com/merch/1-3-japan-special-edition-cd
You're a visionary!
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Sacul
Nicolas Jaar – greatest hits & Sirens (2016)
Category 2.5: Post-roulette compilation
You’re so good at sending me really interesting, unique stuff, and sometimes it works for me and sometimes it doesn’t quite. This sits right alongside Om (which you sent via Ruslan) in the middle of the spectrum. It’s really cool and engaging, and he has a great sense of experimentation and uses such an array of different sounds and styles. His production sounds pretty damn top-notch too. The stuff that seemed most interesting was the songs from Sirens, so I decided to check that album as well, to get a feel for it feels like as an album. In both cases, I dig his music and his style, but I don’t find myself liking it as much as I wish I did.
Rating: 7.5/10 each
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Clortho
Blue October – Foiled (2006) & Sway (2013)
Category 2: Compilation artists
You’ll remember that I loved the compilation you put together from these guys and remarked that they seemed like a really consistent band because I couldn’t identify songs from any particular album that stood out. I did pick a couple based on a couple of particularly memorable songs plus RYM ratings, and I still get that sense of how consistent they are. Not every song on these two albums is killer, and I do think you seem to have done a great job of picking some of the strongest, but both albums are consistently enjoyable and have a number of cracking tracks, despite the fact that their style clearly developed in the seven years between them. I’ll certainly continue to delve into their other albums too.
Rating: 8/10 each
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Katt
Kings of Leon – Only By the Night (2008) & Walls (2016)
Category 2: Compilation artists
If your intention when sending a compilation of Kings of Leon, having sent an album by them in my last roulette, was to try again to turn me on to them, then despite your relative weak performance in the round, you have in fact succeeded. As I said in that round’s write-up, the songs from these two albums really stood out above the rest and they were the obvious starting point. And they’re both really great. OBTN doesn’t seem as consistently strong, but it has a youthful energy and some real highlights. Walls has really impressed me - it seems to have more maturity and warmth to it, and it’s definitely up my alley. I’ll check out another album or two but even if these are the only two I end up liking enough to get, it’s enough to say thank you for trying again and succeeding this time!
Rating: 8/10 each
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That's fair, what were your favorite songs overall? I reckon Sirens took a bit to grow on me, I recommend you check out the extra tracks on the deluxe edition, they're great.
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I like the experimentation on Sirens. Killing Time is probably my favourite on the compilation you made, and No and Nazareth have some really cool stuff in them too. From what you included from Nymphs that sounds a little more straightforward stylistically but nice too, Why Didn't You Save Me is my favourite of those.
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Nekov
Kyte – Love to Be Lost (2012)
Category 2: Compilation artists
Yep, this is some really nice indie synth pop. The overall quality is probably similar to your compilation - the standouts from that are some of my favourites here too, but there are some other really cool songs and the general vibe of the album is very warm and enjoyable. I honestly don’t have much to say about this, it’s just a really solid album and I’m looking forward to checking out the other albums at some point.
Rating: 8/10
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Seneca
Bill Callahan – Apocalypse (2011)
Category 2: Compilation artists
Overall, my feeling towards this is similar to your compilation, although I think the quality is more mixed. I picked this to check out as it contained my favourites from your album, and indeed Drover is still a fantastic opener, and One Fine Morning works well as a closer. Most of the rest of the album is fine, pleasant enough, some interesting ideas. Callahan’s voice still doesn’t interest me much but most of the album is solid enough. On the downside, though, I honestly find America! just genuinely irritating. I think I get the ironic vibe the song is going for (I’m guessing/hoping so anyway), but it’s not at all enjoyable to listen to and does bring the album down a bit.
Rating: 7/10
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Evermind
Frequency Drift – Over (2014)
Category 2: Compilation artists
Ok so I’ll tell you what I love in here, and that’s the celtic and medieval stylings in the use of harps and strings. These folky elements work so well, and give the album a pretty unique sound. Overall, the album is a little hit and miss. It starts pretty well and there are some solid songs, but the quality isn’t consistent and it’s a very long album, so I can’t help finding some of it a bit filler. Thankfully the album ends strongly - Memory doesn’t have the most exciting start but the instrumental sections starting with the metal flute solo are fantastic, and then Disappeared is a gorgeous, delicate closer that really embraces the side of their sound that I dig most.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Yeah I think America singlehandedly made me not wanna listen to that Bill Callahan album a second time too
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Yeah I think America singlehandedly made me not wanna listen to that Bill Callahan album a second time too
I'm listening to all the post roulette albums at least twice each, but yeah the second time through that song was a slog.
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I like the experimentation on Sirens. Killing Time is probably my favourite on the compilation you made, and No and Nazareth have some really cool stuff in them too. From what you included from Nymphs that sounds a little more straightforward stylistically but nice too, Why Didn't You Save Me is my favourite of those.
I love Killing Time, it's my fav of his :heart. Nymphs is all over the place, I sent you the accessible bits, the rest is far more experimental and varied.
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That's a fair review.
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Post-roulette updates, part 6/?
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza
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Puppies
Depeche Mode – Music For The Masses (1987) & Ultra (1997)
Category 2: Compilation artists
Your whole compilation was really strong so I wasn’t entirely sure which albums to start with, so I went with one from the 80s and one from the 90s. It’s really interesting that each album sounds very much of its time. Despite occasionally being accused in my roulettes of not liking 80s music, it's certainly my preference here. The songs have such a brilliant mood and the album as a whole has a great coherence of style. I really am so pleased with this discovery. Ultra is solid enough as well, kind of a more 90s downtempo vibe to it and I enjoy it, but there are some grungier sounding moments that don’t quite do it for me. But I’m going to go back to their early albums and work my way forwards, so it’ll be interesting to see how the album fits into their development over time.
Rating: 8.5/10 (MFTM) & 7.5/10 (Ultra)
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Cyril
The Physics House Band – Horizons/Rapture (2013), Mercury Fountain (2017) & Death Sequence (2019)
Category 2: Compilation artists
Kind of an odd one this as I heard all three albums in full as part of your “greatest hits”, but I wanted to listen to them separately and get a feel for them as individual albums. I was actually kind of surprised at how much I prefer Mercury Fountain to the other two. The others are still solid, but a little lacking. Horizons/Rapture has lots of energy and cool ideas but it’s a bit all over the place. Death Sequence is much more cohesive but doesn’t have the same energy or dynamism for my tastes. MF seems to get exactly the right balance and do everything really well. I’ll definitely be getting this album.
Rating: 8.5/10 (MF) & 7.5/10 each (H/R & DS)
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Train
A Swarm of the Sun – Zenith (2010) & The Woods (2019)
Category 2: Compilation artists
I think you maybe have partly suffered from song choices here, or possibly they don't work so well for compilations. On Zenith especially, there are a load of really strong tracks, the album is well paced and varied, and there's some use of recurring themes that as an album makes it more engaging (Lifeline is still superb, and its main theme is reprised really nicely in the title track). The Woods doesn't grab me so much - they've clearly developed as a band and I appreciate how much thought they've obviously put into the songs, but it's slower going and other than a few great moments, I don't find myself as interested as I do with Zenith.
Rating: 8/10 (Zenith) & 7.5/10 (TW)
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Tomi
Woods of Ypres – Woods 4: The Green Album (2009) & Woods 5: Grey Skies & Electric Light (2012)
Category 2: Compilation artists
Compared with Trainy, I think you may have benefited from strong song choices, because checking two albums each you get the same scores, but you ranked a fair bit higher in the round. In general, the quality of their music is pretty consistently strong - the thing that lets down Woods 4 for me is that it’s just so… damn… long. There’s not nearly enough variety of tone or style to warrant the length and it really drags so much, despite there being some really good songs. Woods 5 definitely feels more my thing - it’s a bit puchier and more concise (I mean, it’s still an hour long though) and even more consistent in quality. Incredibly depressing and emotionally heavy music. Something very engaging about it. I’ll check out the earlier ones at some point too.
Rating: 8/10 (Woods 5) & 7.5/10 (Woods 4)
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That's all the prelim and compilation artists finished, which means I have the rest of the concept album artists to go (have only done Moonsorrow and Shade Empire so far, and I've set aside another 19 to explore!), plus Cyril's extravaganza. I'll probably jump between the two categories for the rest.
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yeah mercury fountain is 100% the best, the first one is a bit scattered, death sequence is honestly all really good but it doesn't flow the same way & it's too dang short
i just really wanted to send mercury fountain & didn't have any other chance to do so, hence why I just Sent Them All
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Well it worked, and the strength of it made me like the overall "compilation" a lot which was just enough for you to scrape through the round. :lol
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couldn't scrape through the finals though :metardica:
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Ultra is a great record :metal. Haven't listened to Music for The Masses yet, but I probably will eventually.
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Post-roulette updates, part 7/?
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza
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Luoto
Communic – Payment of Existence (2008)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Like the Communic songs on your concept album when I first heard them, I didn't find this album very exciting at first but it's definitely a grower. It's really punchy, solid prog metal. The singer uses what I'd call an 80s metal style of vocals, which isn't always my thing (and might be part of why their stuff doesn't immediately grab me) but he does really well and gives the album a fairly unique feel. There is that Nevermore vibe that I picked up on the song you sent from this album, but of course this is overall more proggy and melodic. I wouldn't say it blows me away, but it's consistently strong stuff and a great album overall.
Rating: 8/10
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Clortho
Extreme – III Sides to Every Story (1992)
Category 3: Concept album artists
I don't really understand how I've never listened to Extreme before. I've heard of them of course, and particularly Bittencourt, but didn't know anything about them or what to expect. Have to say, this album is excellent. They have so much energy and charisma in their quirky, funky brand of prog rock. Top quality performances, strong hooks, and great use of other sounds and instruments to give their music a big and bombastic feel. It's pretty damn indulgent, no doubt, but it's so entertaining that it ends up being just as indulgent for the listener as it is for them.
Rating: 8.5/10
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Cyril
Gabriel Kahane – The Ambassador (2014)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
Not sure what there is about this that you thought I might not like. His stuff isn't the easiest to classify. He just seems to get defined as "singer-songwriter" (which is no more a genre than "band" is) or chamber pop (which doesn't seem to apply here). It's almost like contemporary jazz fused with acoustic indie. His harmonic approach especially is very jazzy, and really interesting. Kind of reminds me of some of Kindo's more restrained stuff. Slightly monochrome in terms of overall vibe perhaps, but it's very rich and engaging music.
Rating: 8/10
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Cyril
Ancestors – Suspended in Reflections (2018)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
This seems to be one of those artists that I feel as though I should like more than I do. They definitely tick a lot of boxes - post-ish metal with a good sense of atmosphere and a reasonable amount of variety of sounds - strings, synths, etc. I do like this album quite a bit, and its short length works nicely to keep the album nice and tight. But while it's all perfectly fine, none of it manages to really excite me. It's consistently good, but there are no wow moments that elevate it and make me keen to come back to it.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Damn, coulda sent this instead of warforged
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Damn, coulda sent this instead of warforged
Oh yeah, forgot to say that's 1 out of 2 albums that, if you'd sent instead of Warforged, would definitely have won you the roulette (basically anything 8/10 or higher).
I assume this is the game now.
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1 out of 2 in my entire post-roulette bonanza? :corn
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1 out of 2 so far. We can keep a running tally.
I won't count the concept album artists as if they'd not been in your concept album, your final round may not have done so well.
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Payment of Existence isn't as consistently good as Waves of Visual Decay. Tracks 4-7 are great and the rest is a bit middling.
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Post-roulette updates, part 8/?
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza
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Clortho
Crimson Glory – Transcendence (1988)
Category 3: Concept album artists
This is rather less successful than the Extreme from my last update! I still rather like the song from your concept album, and there are a couple of strong songs on here too, but most of it feels like a style of 80s metal that I’ve never really got particularly into and this isn’t converting me. There’s nothing wrong with it at all, and the core style I do find quite enjoyable, but a whole album of it does grate after a while. I’m glad to have checked them out and expanded my 80s metal knowledge, but this isn’t one I really see myself returning to.
Rating: 6.5/10
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Tomi
Gallowbraid – Ashen Eidolon (2010)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Ok I’m digging this album a fair bit more than I expected to, which is strange considering you included more than half of it on your concept album. I think there’s a couple of reasons for that. Firstly, while I totally get why you started with Oak and Aspen which has an intro that feels more like an opener, I find it the weakest song on the album. And the title track works great as an opener, even though it has a more sudden start it’s just a fantastic song and really covers all the key styles of the album nicely. The two Autumn tracks are gorgeous and really add to the album’s atmosphere, and the closer is top-notch too. So I’m really glad you included them, I think you were just unfortunate with your choice and ordering of songs.
Rating: 8/10
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Cyril
Sunless Dawn – Timeweaver (2018)
Category 3: Concept album artists
This is a very solid album. Not quite as exciting as some of the stuff you’ve sent, but kind of reminds me of the Irreversible Mechanism in both quality and in some ways style too. It’s instrumentally very melodic, but not in a particularly immediate way which makes it quite interesting particularly with further listens, with mostly harsh vocals that are pretty good. There are probably more moments here that I find a bit less interesting, but it’s easily compensated by the album having quite a lot of variety and exploring different ideas. The first couple of tracks are a little more straightforward, but once it reaches the Biomorph suite you had on your concept album it starts going off in all sorts of enjoyable directions. Given how it's clearly a bit of a grower, I'm looking forward to giving it more listens as well. Good stuff.
Rating: 8/10
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Puppies
Shylmagoghnar – Transience (2018)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Damn dude, that’s two 9/10 albums that have come from your concept album. Perhaps not that surprising considering you won the round, but it makes me wonder how you’d have done if you’d sent these albums in earlier rounds. Anyway, this is wonderful stuff - everything I liked about Journey Through the Fog is present in swathes right throughout the album. Their core sound seems to be folk/black metal, but there’s loads going on, it’s beautifully melodic with some really gorgeous harmonies in the instrumentation, and the production is superb. The album is 72 minutes which is pretty damn long, but it doesn’t feel long and if anything when it finishes I want more. I’ll definitely check out their first album too.
Rating: 9/10
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Ehh, dunno if sunless dawn is much of a grower, i loved it pretty much immediately :lol
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Sure, but everyone has different things that either hit them immediately or take time to settle. A lot of the melodic but heavy stuff on the album didn't feel very immediate to me but I've enjoyed it more with each listen.
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Glad you liked the Extreme. They have some good stuff. I think Pornograffitti is their best overall album but I like a lot of 3 sides. The 3rd side might be their best work.
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Silly band name aside, Shylmagoghnar is :metal
Glad you liked that album so much. Can we retroactively swap out my round 6 album for this one? :lol
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Just realised that I saw the latest posts when I was too busy to reply, and then forgot to do so later on. :lol
Glad you liked the Extreme. They have some good stuff. I think Pornograffitti is their best overall album but I like a lot of 3 sides. The 3rd side might be their best work.
Cool, I'm looking forward to checking out their other stuff. The album they did in 2008 seems pretty well rated as well, so that and Pornograffitti are probably my next ones.
Silly band name aside, Shylmagoghnar is :metal
Glad you liked that album so much. Can we retroactively swap out my round 6 album for this one? :lol
Yeah, very ridiculous band name. :lol And no you can't, but even if you did, it might hurt your concept album. :P
Next update imminent.
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Post-roulette updates, part 9/?
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza
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Cyril
Eluvium – Static Nocturne (2010)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
Ok I have pretty mixed feelings towards this. On the more positive end of things, it’s clearly been crafted with a lot of thought and care. It’s very… pretty, for want of a better word, and atmospheric and richly produced. I think I’d love it if it were, say, incidental music to a video game. Something very much in the background that enhances the foreground. It’s a standalone piece of music though, and so as pleasant as it is, there’s just not enough happening to interest me at all really. The whole thing feels like an intro that never reaches the main event.
Rating: 6.5/10
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Cyril
Even the Trees – If Only Every Day Could Be Like This (2018)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
I agree with you that half of this is a lot stronger than the rest, mostly the second half although This Ends Now is one of my favourites. I'm not as keen on it as you overall though. For the good stuff, it's still not really 9/10 territory for me as it is for you - it's really good post-hardcore and in particular there's some of the more atmospheric stuff in the second half is really nice, but there aren't any wow moments for me. And the weaker stuff, I just honestly find quite bland. Never bad or unpleasant at all, it's all fine, it's just a bit boring and the better stuff doesn't manage to make up for it.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Clortho
Cowboy Junkies – Black Eyed Man (1992)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Looks like some more country that I can add to my collection (I know it’s not pure country, and also they’re Canadian, but close enough). I’ve actually found the song you included in your roulette (which I liked) one of the more middling ones on the album - it’s nice stuff for sure but there are a few songs that I find more engaging, particularly a couple of more soulful ones. Not every song is killer, but it’s all solid, there are some real standouts, and the whole thing has a really nice consistent warmth to it.
Rating: 8/10
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Luoto
Diablo – Silvër Horizon (2015)
Category 3: Concept album artists
I've just realised that three of the songs on your concept album were recent singles not from an album (including the Wilderun). So for Diablo I've checked out their latest full length. It's good stuff. I wasn't actually sure at first - none of the choruses felt as memorable as Grace Under Pressure, and some of the riffing on the album seems a little… scruffy I guess? But it's grown on me quite a bit. Their heavier stuff doesn't seem especially exciting for the most part (though there are good moments) but it's all solid enough, and actually there are some great hooks all over the album once you get used to them. And yeah you're right about their style, there are elements of various metal genres present (MDM, thrash, metalcore) which is quite an enjoyable mix.
Rating: 8/10
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Puppies
Equilibrium – Rekreatur (2010)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Didn’t entirely know what to expect from these guys as it was an instrumental you included on your concept album, and it was really enjoyable and pretty over the top folk-metal. Turns out, the whole album is basically like that, just with harsh vocals. It’s the sort of thing I might sometimes find a bit cheesy, but they pull it off really well and it ends up being a lot of fun. There’s an early-Children-of-Bodom vibe at times, which I definitely wasn’t expecting. Standout tracks so far are the opener and the amusingly-named Fahrtwind (which I’m sure means something perfectly sensible in German).
Rating: 8/10
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Glad i didn't send those in the main roulette :tup
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Standout tracks so far are the opener and the amusingly-named Fahrtwind (which I’m sure means something perfectly sensible in German).
:lol yeah I always giggle a little whenever I see that song title. It loosely translates to Head Wind.
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Cool. Black Eyed Man is an album in my collection that I absolutely love but it is nothing like what I normally listen to. For some reason it is one of my favorites. Might be the story telling. You said it had a warmth and I think that is a good way to describe the album. None of their other albums, and I have several, come close to this one for me.
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Sent!
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Sent!
For the secret round?
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I'm pretty certain my top 3 will remain Hypno5e...
I seem to recall you promised me a Hypno5e "greatest hits" once the new album had come out...
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I'm pretty certain my top 3 will remain Hypno5e...
I seem to recall you promised me a Hypno5e "greatest hits" once the new album had come out...
For the secret round? :biggrin:
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Cool. Black Eyed Man is an album in my collection that I absolutely love but it is nothing like what I normally listen to. For some reason it is one of my favorites. Might be the story telling. You said it had a warmth and I think that is a good way to describe the album. None of their other albums, and I have several, come close to this one for me.
Yeah it's got a great vibe. I'll check out some of their other albums but I'll temper my expectations a little!
Next update coming shortly. Hypno5e will be in the one after that.
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Post-roulette updates, part 10/?
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza
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Luoto
Skein – Deadweight (2017)
Category 3: Concept album artists
I’ve found this one really hard to rate because I have such mixed feelings about it. It’s another one where you included a new single so I checked out the last album. It’s all pretty solid - the general sound is something I dig and at first I thought it could end up an 8/10. But… I don’t know, I just can’t properly get into it. None of the songs feel as interesting as the new single, and as much as I’ve enjoyed every listen, nothing stands out to me and I can’t really remember any of it afterwards. I think if there’s a new album coming that has Cartographer on it, I’ll check it out and then maybe come back to this one to see if I change my mind.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Clortho
Engine – Engine (1999)
Category 3: Concept album artists
This is a lot cooler than I was expecting to be honest - it’s so hard to judge from a single song! Alone is a solid enough track but I wasn’t sure what to expect from the album. There’s a lot more to it though, and although it definitely sounds pretty 90s prog metal it doesn’t feel dated. It’s pretty much a cross between Fates Warning (which makes sense) and Deftones (which surprised me a lot), and while it's more the former and so could have ended up quite derivative, it creates a really unique and enticing mix. Alder’s performance is great too and gives the songs a lot of energy. One of my favourite surprises so far from this category!
Rating: 8/10
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Cyril
Alkaloid – The Malkuth Grimoire (2015)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Overall I find myself liking this approximately as much as I expected to from the Dyson Sphere songs you sent, but actually maybe slightly more. One thing I do like is that the album as a whole is quite varied and, as death metal goes, very enjoyable. As with Dyson Sphere, there’s a slight death-metal-Ayreon vibe in places, and while it is still a little jarring, over the course of a whole album it somehow works alright. I think I slightly prefer it to the Hannes Grossmann solo album you sent me last time as it’s a bit more melodic and varied, but on the downside it’s also rather long and there aren’t any songs that particularly stand out like there are on Radial Covenant. So overall pretty solid stuff.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Cyril
An Abstract Illusion – Illuminate the Path (2016)
Category 3: Concept album artists
This is excellent stuff that’s right up my alley. I already liked Skeletons of Light lots from your concept album, but this album as a whole is if anything even better. Really feels like a punchy mix of prog metal and melodic death metal - if anything I feel it’s more the former overall where I’d been expecting more the latter. It’s quite rich harmonically, which is very much my thing because as well as some great heavy moments they create some really gorgeous and/or atmospheric ones too. I’ll definitely be getting this album.
Rating: 8.5/10
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Post-roulette updates, part 11/?
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza
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Puppies
Pillorian – Obsidian Arc (2017)
Category 3: Concept album artists
That's now two 8/10 and two 9/10 albums from your concept album. This one I wasn't so sure about before checking them out, or indeed on my first listen, but it's ended up sitting very well with me. While they're more explicitly black metal than the Primordial you sent me early on, there's a similar sadness to the music behind the heaviness that gives it all a very evocative feel. They've also created a very bleak sense of atmosphere even though there isn't that much in the way of long, notable atmospheric sections. It's not quite up there with my favourite folk/black metal, but it's a strong album still.
Rating: 8/10
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Cyril
Extremities – Gaia (2018)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
Why oh why isn't the whole album as good as the last two songs? Not sure why you think I wouldn't be keen on the general style, I do like it, just the rest of the album doesn't reel me in with any particularly interesting hooks. It's not bad, the riffs, the vocal lines are all just… fine. It's all very 7/10. But damn the album really steps up a couple of levels for these last two tracks. There's so much more musicality to them on pretty much all levels, and what feels like much more engaging vocal lines. For now this is just below the coveted 8/10 line but I see them very much as one to watch, and depending on where the band goes next I could definitely see myself revisiting this, even just for the last two songs.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Cyril
Monotheist – Scourge (2018)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
Well, this rating is definitely not where I saw things ending up when I started my first listen. I can see why you said start with track 3, but I'm an album listener so I needed to hear it all. The start of the album is... intense. The all-out blast beat death metal is not my thing, and despite there being some melodic or quiet moments, I did wonder if we were in El Drugstore territory. But no. This is such an engaging and interesting album in a lot of ways, particularly in how it develops and gets more proggy and melodic throughout. The Mark of the Beast tracks are pretty exciting, Infinite Wisdom is a surprisingly enjoyable instrumental, and Desolate It Mourns Before Me is crushingly epic. Like Slice the Cake from my last roulette, some of this is a bit intense for me, but the album as a whole is just balanced enough to work and to suck me in.
Rating: 8/10
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Train
Hypno5e – “HypeNose” (greatest hits)
Category 2.5: Post-roulette compilation
OK so I have no idea why Cyril thought I wouldn't like this. I love it, so either he got it very wrong or you did a fantastic job of picking out the greatest hits and I'd hate everything else. What a bewildering but thrilling array of different styles and ideas. It's pretty crazy at times and not everything quite hits the spot, but most of it is harmonically rich, which is right up my alley, it's definitely never boring, and a lot of it is really fantastic. I haven't checked out an album yet as I have no idea where to start, and I get the sense I'll get quite a different experience from each. So at some point I'll work through them all and I can potentially see myself loving some of them.
Rating: 8.5/10
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I guess I really should've sent a post-roulette recommendation on Skein... For me Deadweight is like 5.5/10, while Of Wings Unfolding is 9+/10 and it's #8 on my best albums of the decade list :lol It's so hard to just take out songs off such a great concept album, so I went with Cartographer instead.
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I guess I really should've sent a post-roulette recommendation on Skein... For me Deadweight is like 5.5/10, while Of Wings Unfolding is 9+/10 and it's #8 on my best albums of the decade list :lol It's so hard to just take out songs off such a great concept album, so I went with Cartographer instead.
Hmm, ok good to know. No promises I'll report back here but I reckon I'll check that one out too in that case.
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Curious what the Hippo Noose greatest hits songs were now, yeah
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Curious what the Hippo Noose greatest hits songs were now, yeah
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3nySDOluOSMGNpF5s2GHKu?si=vDjba26aTayOpBQ91g4DYg
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The only one I recognize immediately is Gehenne which is probably the best track on that album :lol
It looks like he pulled songs off the acoustic album too
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Awesome! :metal :metal
Ok, so of the albums I sent songs from, Acid Mist Tomorrow (of which I sent the Gehenne trilogy) is my personal favorite, and one of my favorite albums of the decade. It has weaker production than the others though.
Shores of the Abstract Line is their most balanced album, it has good acoustic stuff, GREAT riffs, a cold atmosphere, and the best Hypno5e song (which you heard and hopefully will agree with :lol South Shore: Blind Man’s Eye)
Alba - Les Ombres Errantes is fully acoustic and written as a movie soundtrack to the movie that the frontman of Hypno5e directed himself. It’s a beautiful movie too! And this album shows that they still create a very diverse sound in this stripped down setting.
The new one came out less than 2 weeks ago, and I’m still not sure where it ranks, but I think leaving out the title track “A Distant Dark Source” is the only regret I have, it’s just so long.
My suggestion: Acid Mist Tomorrow > Shores of the Abstract Line > Alba - Les Ombres Errantes - A Distant (Dark Source)
I like Des Deux a lot too (debut album), but it feels very amateurish compared to the other work regardless
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Post-roulette updates, part 12/13
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza
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Cyril
My Chemical Romance – The Black Parade (2006)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
This is pretty great stuff. Not sure why I've never really properly checked out MCR before. I already knew the title track, and it's decent enough and pretty iconic, but I've never found it massively exciting. But that song really doesn't get across the energy and variety on this album, kind of a cool mix of pop punk, emo and post-hardcore and all done well. There's lots of slick guitar work and intricacy in the instrumentation, and even a nice theatricality in some of the songs which is right up my street. If anything I consider the title track one of the weakest things on here. Another of those silly gaps that I can now plug!
Rating: 8.5/10
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Cyril
Panegyrist – Hierurgy (2018)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
You have very mixed results when you think I won't like something. Sometimes you're spot on but other times I can't even work out why you'd think that. This is one of the latter cases. It reminds me a little of William Blake-era Ulver, in the way it's quite intense, experimental and grand. Despite the avant-garde nature, a lot of it also has something very classically epic about it, which I very much enjoy. There are some more modern and discordant ideas, some of which work for me and others that don't so much, but in general it's all very solid and there's some fantastic stuff (especially in the opening tracks).
Rating: 8/10
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Clortho
Lizzy Borden – Master of Disguise (1989)
Category 3: Concept album artists
This is a bit of a mixed bag for me, but overall it's pretty good actually. Instrumentally in particular, it's really slick and has a good energetic sense of fun and charisma. I especially enjoy some of the funkier and quirkier tunes, and I like the variety that these bring to the album overall. The main downer I think is the vocal lines. Not the singer, who is perfectly good for the most part, but bar a couple of exceptions, most of the vocal melodies I just find really quite boring. And as enjoyable as much of the instrumental work is, I don't find it special enough to compensate.
Rating: 7/10
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Tomi
Caladan Brood – Echoes of Battle (2013)
Category 3: Concept album artists
My feeling towards this is very similar to my feeling towards the song you included on your concept album. Slightly more positive perhaps, as actually there's loads here that I like. The folk side of the music is pretty consistently nice throughout the whole album, and some of the grander moments are also very immersive. There are two things holding it back a bit though. Firstly, I'm not a big fan of the guy's black metal vocals (which might be due to the production). These roulettes have really turned me on to some great black metal, but I find these particular vocals a bit too thin and raspy. And secondly, every song has nice stuff but every one of them plods along and the album really does just drag on a bit for me. So good stuff overall, but not great.
Rating: 7.5/10
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The "better than warforged" parade continues
I like the MCR album before this one too though not as much, not too into the first or last ones tho
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The "better than warforged" parade continues
7 out of 8 so far, and 4 out of 8 would have won you the roulette. FYI. :P
I like the MCR album before this one too though not as much, not too into the first or last ones tho
Cool, will definitely check it out!
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I am stunned this is still going on :lol
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I am stunned this is still going on :lol
I had a lot of stuff to check out. Blame Cyril. Mostly.
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I am stunned this is still going on :lol
I'm kinda thinking of resurrecting my thread as I only now began to check a lot of stuff sent in my roulette.
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Sunless Dawn! Sunless Daaawwwnnnn!!!
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Sunless Dawn! Sunless Daaawwwnnnn!!!
I mean I have to check them out for ProgPower :lol
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Post-roulette updates, part 13/13
Category 1: Prelim elimination (complete)
Category 2: Compilation artists (complete)
Category 3: Concept album artists (complete)
Category 4: Cyril's extravaganza (complete)
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Puppies
Havukruunu – Kelle Surut Soi (2017)
Category 3: Concept album artists
There's lots about this that I like, but on balance overall I feel pretty similarly to the two songs from your concept album. Musically it's mostly solid black metal, quite enjoyable for a lot of it in fact and there's some nice melodic stuff going on. I think it's let down quite a lot by the production, which feels very rough around the edges. It might intentionally be done that way and I think it can work sometimes, but here it just makes it hard to really immerse myself in it. Especially some of the clean vocal sections I think would have really benefited from clearer sound which would have given it more atmosphere. I'm also not especially keen on these harsh vocals - they're not bad at all, just don't find them very interesting.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Luoto
Oddland – The Treachery Of Senses (2012)
Category 3: Concept album artists
I've ended up digging this a fair bit more than I expected, and suspect you were unfortunate with your song choices. Ire works pretty well as a closer and I provably enjoy it more here, but I also find it to be among the weaker songs. A lot of the album has more in the way of good hooks, as well as a rhythmic groove that I find more engaging than the songs from your concept album. There are hints of other bands at times but all in all it's a fairly unique sound. And actually in context Ire has a nice moodiness to it that works well after some of the grander songs that come before it. So yeah, this was a pleasant surprise.
Rating: 8/10
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Cyril
Adrift – Pure (2019)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
Hmm I dunno, you say this is all about the grooves, but I'm not really feeling it. I mean, yeah there's some decent stuff especially in some of the more atmospheric sections (like the opening of Confluence of Fire), there's some tight riffing and a pretty punchy sound. The other thing I appreciate is the uniqueness of black metal style screams over this kind of sludge metal, not a combination I've heard before and there's a fair bit of it here. Sadly that doesn't work for me either. Basically apart from the production, I find pretty much everything about it to be adequate but lacking.
Rating: 6.5/10
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Cyril
Spires – The Whisperer (2014)
Category 4: Cyril's post-roulette extravaganza
Yeah I think I'm in agreement with you on this - I like it but I don't love it. It's generally very enjoyable - nice varied and slightly quirky prog metal that takes in quite a few different influences. There's some really solid stuff peppered throughout too, especially in the big epics, although nothing that especially stands out (after three listens, I've not really found anything very memorable). And some of it I find a little dull. Not sure I can point to anything particularly wrong with it, I'm just not finding it especially engaging. And yet when I listen to it, I enioy it well enough. Bit of a weird one really.
Rating: 7.5/10
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Train
Sleep Token – Sundowning (2019)
Category 4.5: Trainy’s special bonus submission
OK so your post-roulette stuff has been excellent and stronger than almost everything you sent in the roulette. :lol This is another great one. Really interesting mix of styles, kind of reminds me of Frost but the poppy side is more indie and the rock/metal side is heavier, going into djent territory and harsh vocals at times. The latter came as a surprise the first time as tonally there's such an indie vibe to their music. It could have been jarring, but it works well and makes it a very dynamic and exciting album.
Rating: 8.5/10
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So that really is the end now! There were more concept album artists, but they didn't interest me enough to want to check out a whole album at this stage. I'll also spend the time between now and my next roulette digging into definitely all the 8+/10 artists and probably some others. Thanks again everyone for introducing me to so much great music! :heart
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Damn you sure you don't want more post-roulette albums from me?
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more 6.5/10 albums pls
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Haha, sorry for that, I’m much better at spontaneous recs than roulettes, and Sleep Token didn’t have a full length until last month, but I’ve been a huuge fan of the song Jaws they released for over a year, they also have some good EPs and a cover of Hey Ya! by OutKast :lol
I love that they’re somehow able to mix RNB, trap, indie, post rock and metalcore without being jarring (Give into Gods is a bit sudden though)
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more 6.5/10 albums pls
El Drugstore just released a new album last month :metal