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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: cramx3 on August 22, 2019, 08:07:15 AM
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The season is very close, the top 25 polls are out:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings (https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings)
Thoughts and feelings for your team and this season?
It seems like it'll be another year of the Clemson/Bama show overall which is kind of uninteresting at this point, would love to see another team knock those off, but it just seems unlikely.
PSU should have another solid season, but they are not a championship team this year. New QB means growing pains. The defense might be really good which will keep them in games and allow them to win more than lose, but I don't see them beating Michigan or Ohio State this year, so if they can get passed Iowa and Michigan State, a 10-2 season is possible, but I think 9-3 or 8-4 may be more likely for the younger team. 9-3 would likely put them around #15 where they sit in the preseason poll so that seems legit to me.
Coach Franklin has pulled in tons of great recruits, some of the best classes ever at PSU, but if his assistant coaches can't coach them up, heads are going to need to roll in the off season. The talent is too good here to be out coached by Michigan State again this year. I think that would be the hardest loss again this year if that happens. The offensive coordinater needs to improve this offense with his young talent. I don't think Franklin himself is on the hot seat, but he will be pressured to make necessary changes as he did a few years ago (but sadly those coaches went on to become head coaches so that leaves us here).
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Illinois is going to continue to suck. We haven't had a winning record in a long time.
I love Lovie Smith to death, but he has the same problem that he had when he coached the Bears - you can't do much when you don't have enough talent, or healthy talent. Illinois hasn't been able to recruit well for years, and our star players continue to have season-ending injuries early on.
Lovie is in his fourth year of a six-year contract. At the end of the fifth year, he should have the majority of his own recruits playing for him. So we'll see how he does in a year or two. I don't think continuously changing coaches out is the right move for teams, and I would love to see Lovie stay at Illinois. They just have to start getting better recruits and staying healthy.
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I'm surprised Lovie isn't able to recruit well for Illinois, you'd think a guy well known for being an NFL head coach would have more success, even at Illinois, than he is having.
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I'm surprised Lovie isn't able to recruit well for Illinois, you'd think a guy well known for being an NFL head coach would have more success, even at Illinois, than he is having.
They're still coming out of a player mistreatment scandal from the prior head coach (Tim Beckman), who forced players to play while injured, or forced his medical staff to clear players too quickly. So they hired Loved Smith, which was a great move - he coached for the Bears, 2 hours away in Chicago, and had a connection to the state. He's also known for being a player's coach and treating his players right. Perfect scenario.
He just can't seem to build a team and has trouble landing recruits from in-state. If they can get some success again, then maybe the higher level recruits will follow - I just want a winning season and potential for a bowl game each year. They'll never contend for the playoffs, which is fine.
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should be a solid 8-4 for the Badgers!
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Florida state gonna suck this year probably
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Nebraska is going to continue to improve this year now that the lazy culture has been abolished. Plus they have a relatively easy schedule with the quality opponents. 8-10 wins should be very doable this year.
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Nebraska is going to continue to improve this year now that the lazy culture has been abolished. Plus they have a relatively easy schedule with the quality opponents. 8-10 wins should be very doable this year.
Starting the season ranked 24 in the AP. Honestly surprised just because they haven't proven themselves yet although they certainly should be better by a decent amount, but it would be nice for the Big10 West to have Nebraska back to where they should be traditionally.
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Go Bears Baby!!!!
So the Golden Bears of California are looking to have one of the best defenses in the country.....and one of the worst offenses. Only time will tell how this will play out in the coming year. Outside of conference play only Ole Miss is anything worth noting. Expecting another return to a mid tier bowl, unless they find a way to put points on the board, then it could be quite exciting.
Let's do this.... :gobears:
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Next Saturday is CCU vs. EMU. I'm a fan of both teams, so that'll be fun.
Long Island University renamed themselves the Sharks and have a new look. I'll keep my eye on them.
Boise State redid their blue turf, it really needed it.
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should be a solid 8-4 for the Badgers!
I hope it’s higher!
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My purple and gold, snarling Dogs from Montlake Blvd. are supposed to take the Pac this year. Let's see how much defensive depth we have; as we had to replace like 9 starters. We should be okay. But the really only questionable group are the linebackers. Unfortunately, I'm old, and long ago wore out my knees in Husky stadium, running stairs everyday and bringing the pain on Saturdays. Not to mention I'd used up all my eligibility when I graduated. So, I'm not much help. They'll have to do it without me. Here's to their success. Let's go Huskies.
Bow Down to Washington!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QuWBVymXI08
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Bow Down to Washington!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QuWBVymXI08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3dZTL-lRdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3dZTL-lRdM)
:gobears:
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Appalachian State looks to have another conference championship caliber team, and another bowl game in their future.
They also have games against both North Carolina and South Carolina this season. It surely would be awesome to get wins against one or both of them.
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I'm hoping the University of Utah lives up to their preseason ranking. First game this Thursday vs. BYU. We'll see.
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I'm hoping the University of Utah lives up to their preseason ranking. First game this Thursday vs. BYU. We'll see.
I was thinking the same thing and was surprised to see them so high out of the gate. The thing about Utah football is that there's always things you can count on - great defense, a good running game, and a stout O-line. Their weakness is always that they don't usually have any standout receivers, and they haven't had a noteworthy QB since Alex Smith. Whenever they're ranked quite high, I like the attention they get, but still take it with a grain of salt.
And please, for the love of God, do not lose to the Cougars...
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I'm hoping the University of Utah lives up to their preseason ranking. First game this Thursday vs. BYU. We'll see.
I was thinking the same thing and was surprised to see them so high out of the gate. The thing about Utah football is that there's always things you can count on - great defense, a good running game, and a stout O-line. Their weakness is always that they don't usually have any standout receivers, and they haven't had a noteworthy QB since Alex Smith. Whenever they're ranked quite high, I like the attention they get, but still take it with a grain of salt.
And please, for the love of God, do not lose to the Cougars...
I have three grandchildren, two of which are nine-year-olds, that have never witnessed a BYU victory vs. the Utes. :biggrin:
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Coach Franklin under a bit of heat as a former team doctor is suing the school because he said Coach pushed back on him to let players get back on the field. Well, sooo many players came on to support Franklin including Barkley. That helps bury the story a bit as it seems this is a fired doctor who is probably looking for a cash grab, but also is making the school/team look bad. I'm glad Barkley came out for support as he is the biggest name associated with Franklin's time at PSU.
Idaho tomorrow, should be a 40+ point blow out.
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Coach Franklin under a bit of heat as a former team doctor is suing the school because he said Coach pushed back on him to let players get back on the field. Well, sooo many players came on to support Franklin including Barkley. That helps bury the story a bit as it seems this is a fired doctor who is probably looking for a cash grab, but also is making the school/team look bad. I'm glad Barkley came out for support as he is the biggest name associated with Franklin's time at PSU.
I'm trying not to be a homer on this one, but I'm also a bit skeptical. Maybe having been on the receiving end of a fabricated whistleblower complaint after terminating someone has biased my view a bit...
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It just has a lot of that smell to it with you look closely, which as a PSU fan, I will, but of course the headlines are harsh and I'm just happy it's not looking to be true because Franklin has been a fantastic recruiter and head coach, does and says all the right things, except in the 4th quarter of close games, so he's really likeable but if this were to be true it would be hard to support him. It just so far doesn't seem like anything else that goes on between coach and doctor. This doctor just happened to get fired. Also, PSU has had a few players unable to play for loooong time... aka Tommy Stevens who should have been the starting QB this year but is now starting for Miss State. Guy couldn't get cleared to play at PSU. :huh:
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Golden Bears are 1-0 after holding off a mighty effort by the Aggies of UC Davis....
Focusing on the Oregon-Auburn game....
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Florida state gonna suck this year probably
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PSU won 79-7... great game... honestly, I expected a 45-0 type game so Im glad they delivered, but these types of games just make no sense for the sport overall
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PSU won 79-7... great game... honestly, I expected a 45-0 type game so Im glad they delivered, but these types of games just make no sense for the sport overall
These matchups occasionally make sense...just ask App State or Ga Southern :)
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Huskers struggled mightily on Offense this week against a pretty weak opponent. The pre-season hype machine was getting out of hand so it may not be a bad thing to come back down to reality.
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App State won big in the debut of a new head coach. Longtime coach Jerry Moore (see: Michigan upset) was there for pregame festivities as well. Nice.
Also, glad to see the Return of the Mack for UNC against the Gamecocks.
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Illinois beat up on Akron. Whoo! 1-0. NATIONAL CHAMPS THIS YEAR! :lol Lost a player to a season-ending injury though. What else is new? Up next is Connecticut and Eastern Michigan.
Though when they hit the Big-10 schedule, it's going to be tough. Nebraska/Minnesota/Michigan/Wisconsin, all in a row.
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Ain't nothing easy about hitting the big10 schedule other than Rutgers plus it's a 9 game conference schedule, I feel like that gets forgotten when people discuss strength of schedule.
PSU plays Buffallo on Saturday Night while I'll be at progpower so not sure how much if any ill be able to catch but that should be another easy win albeit not as easy since Buffalo is better than Idaho.
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10:45pm here on the West Coast on Saturday night, decided to check the result of the UW game (curiosity for my alma mater). I see it is 0-0, with 3:33 left to go.... in the first freaking quarter! Who the hell is watching this game? I know the whole "the national media ignores teams on the West Coast" complaint can get tiresome, but Jesus Balls I would too if a game started at my local time of 1:00AM!!!!!
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10:45pm here on the West Coast on Saturday night, decided to check the result of the UW game (curiosity for my alma mater). I see it is 0-0, with 3:33 left to go.... in the first freaking quarter! Who the hell is watching this game? I know the whole "the national media ignores teams on the West Coast" complaint can get tiresome, but Jesus Balls I would too if a game started at my local time of 1:00AM!!!!!
geeze, just got back from progpower and see its halftime :rollin almost quarter to 3am here
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10:45pm here on the West Coast on Saturday night, decided to check the result of the UW game (curiosity for my alma mater). I see it is 0-0, with 3:33 left to go.... in the first freaking quarter! Who the hell is watching this game? I know the whole "the national media ignores teams on the West Coast" complaint can get tiresome, but Jesus Balls I would too if a game started at my local time of 1:00AM!!!!!
There was like a two hour weather delay in the game, which never helps a 7:30 start anyways.
But you can't argue with those results.... Hey Tempus... :gobears:
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10:45pm here on the West Coast on Saturday night, decided to check the result of the UW game (curiosity for my alma mater). I see it is 0-0, with 3:33 left to go.... in the first freaking quarter! Who the hell is watching this game? I know the whole "the national media ignores teams on the West Coast" complaint can get tiresome, but Jesus Balls I would too if a game started at my local time of 1:00AM!!!!!
There was like a two hour weather delay in the game, which never helps a 7:30 start anyways.
After I typed my post I wondered if the game was in SEA and the weather delayed it. I am about 20 miles north of Seattle and from 9p-930p or so the thunder and lightning here where crazy, I can't recall the last time we had a storm like that.
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Yeah, but let's ignore the late start and focus on Cal upsetting the Huskies in Seattle!!! Roll on you Bears....
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Yeah, but let's ignore the late start and focus on Cal upsetting the Huskies in Seattle!!! Roll on you Bears....
I'm looking forward to when the Utes play Cal at your place in October, lonestar. Always a fun game against the Bears!
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Yeah, but let's ignore the late start and focus on Cal upsetting the Huskies in Seattle!!! Roll on you Bears....
I'm looking forward to when the Utes play Cal at your place in October, lonestar. Always a fun game against the Bears!
For sure...if Cal's D plays like they did Saturday, we stand a chance against pretty much anyone. As long as there's no injuries, it's gonna be an interesting year...
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Almost a disaster in happy valley, after a lightning delay for 40 minutes before it even began, I had a bad feeling
They didnt play great but they did what they needed to including a big time goal line stand in the 100th and for now, final game between these rivals. I had to stream the end on the train, technology is so awesome except when theres 5 second left and final play and you get the loading screen :facepalm:
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I'm 5 for 5 this week! 4 blowouts and a last second FG win.
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Aaaaaaaaaaand ranked....Bears join 5 other Pac12 teams in the top 25, just in time for conference play. In other words, time to start knocking each other out of the top 25...
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Aaaaaaaaaaand ranked....Bears join 5 other Pac12 teams in the top 25, just in time for conference play. In other words, time to start knocking each other out of the top 25...
Still a good showing for the Pac12, meanwhile the ACC...
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Raiders. :facepalm: Gave up 28 points in one quarter and nothing in the other 3.
Seahawks ain't dominating but still getting wins!
Good Rams win.
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Raiders. :facepalm: Gave up 28 points in one quarter and nothing in the other 3.
Seahawks ain't dominating but still getting wins!
Good Rams win.
Perhaps the wrong thread?
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Raiders. :facepalm: Gave up 28 points in one quarter and nothing in the other 3.
Seahawks ain't dominating but still getting wins!
Good Rams win.
Perhaps the wrong thread?
Texas Tech, UNC Wilmington, and Colorado St.?
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:rollin
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Raiders. :facepalm: Gave up 28 points in one quarter and nothing in the other 3.
Seahawks ain't dominating but still getting wins!
Good Rams win.
Perhaps the wrong thread?
Texas Tech, UNC Wilmington, and Colorado St.?
Close, but Wilmington doesn't have a football team.
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Big test for the Utes secondary tonight against USC's receivers! Hopefully Blackman is 100% ready to go and Anae has a big pass rush night.
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Half time...*^?#%+,.\
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Big test for the Utes secondary tonight against USC's receivers! Hopefully Blackman is 100% ready to go and Anae has a big pass rush night.
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That was ugly. Corners got burned all night. And that safety was ultimately very costly, essentially adding nine points to USCs final score. And the penalties. So many penalties. Just ugly...
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As I said, time for the pac 12 to start taking each other out. Can't say I'm stoked for a 9am start against an SEC opponent on national tv, this is the type of game that could make or break a season in the press's eyes.
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Go Badgers!
Screw Michigan!
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Big test for the Utes secondary tonight against USC's receivers! Hopefully Blackman is 100% ready to go and Anae has a big pass rush night.
That was ugly. Corners got burned all night. And that safety was ultimately very costly, essentially adding nine points to USCs final score. And the penalties. So many penalties. Just ugly...
Ya, it was obvious that the scouting report on the Utes showed a big mismatch of their receiver against Jalen Johnson...and then they beat that drum. Blackman definitely wasn't 100%, he was two steps late to all those floating passes SC's scrub quarterback threw. That should have been a 4 interception night instead of 1.
I hate USC as an organization and as the supposed shinning beacon of the PAC12 pinnacle, but I've got to hand it to their players last night. They played with a chip on their shoulders and exposed Utah for a pretender. That's the problem with being an over achieving program, when we hit schools with effortless recruiting and unlimited talent pool it can really show.
Washington State must be licking their chops.
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Go Badgers!
Screw Michigan!
Agreed. No game for PSU this week, but would love to see meat chicken lose.
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Cal pulls of the win, they're in good standing heading into the meat and potatoes of the Pac 12 gauntlet.
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Go Badgers!
Screw Michigan!
Agreed. No game for PSU this week, but would love to see meat chicken lose.
I enjoyed every second of it.
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GO DAWGS!
I knew ND was gonna play us tough; so glad we hung on for that one. We've got a long way to go before even thinking about beating Alabama.
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Michigan getting spanked was awesome, also I do enjoy seeing ND lose. Pitt somehow beat UCF, makes the PSU win over them look better.
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Always happy to see ND get dropped out of the playoff picture.
Anyhoo, today I'm all :gobears:
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One loss from Georgia early on does not mean the end of ND's chances. Just hurts it. But if they end with 1 loss, they are very likely in the conversation. I could see a scenario where Alabama beats Georgia but ND gets in the playoff over Georgia both with one loss.
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Yeah, but I sure as fuck hope not, I hate that fucking team.
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Yeah, but I sure as fuck hope not, I hate that fucking team.
Totally agreed on that part.
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I don't think we got an ND fan on this board tbh....DTF land is definitely fuck ND shaded. Especially Mason, he hates them more than Al Queda.
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Ok wtf is going on in Pullman? UCLA beats Wazoo 67-63, after trailing by 32 points in the 3rd quarter.
UCLA scored 50 points in the 2nd half.
What. The. Fuck.
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Yea that was crazy, I was actually watching that ending. Can't believe they reviewed the non fumble call and made it a fumble, they got it right but its rare to see that change of call.
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Well...Cal comes in at no. 15, and are the last undefeated team in the Pac 12. In the past we haven't handled success well, usually this is when we collapse and go on a 4 game losing streak, but Wilcox has developed a much different attitude in this team, so much more professional. I see it on the field, it's reflected in the lack of penalties, and I saw it in person last year when serving the team at the hotel.
:gobears:
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Raiders. :facepalm: Gave up 28 points in one quarter and nothing in the other 3.
Seahawks ain't dominating but still getting wins!
Good Rams win.
Perhaps the wrong thread?
Haha oops sorry
Boise and Coastal with big wins, EMU steals one on a blocked punt!
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Well...Cal comes in at no. 15, and are the last undefeated team in the Pac 12. In the past we haven't handled success well, usually this is when we collapse and go on a 4 game losing streak, but Wilcox has developed a much different attitude in this team, so much more professional. I see it on the field, it's reflected in the lack of penalties, and I saw it in person last year when serving the team at the hotel.
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Go bears! Nice win over Mississippi. Now go and destroy Arizona State so that the Oregon game will be that much more fun the following week.
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Damn, having to face that Oregon team is frightening, they're a few plays away from being undefeated to, and against a vastly superior opponent to any we have faced. But hey, need to take care of the Devils first...
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Dammit! That sucks, lonestar.
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At least that Cal game was entertaining. I had a friend come over to watch the PSU game last night and it was a really lopsided and boring match up. Of course I'm happy to be on the dominating side, but it's not really a fun game to entertain guests. We watched the Cal/ASU game after which was much more interesting.
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Losing our qb hurts bad... Next guy looked rusty af, and the two after him are freshmen. And we take that walking into Eugene, no matter how good our defense is, we'll have to put up points to beat the Ducks and I don't see that happening.
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Badgers survive a trap game with Northwestern. After next week (Kent St.) the schedule turns against them, we'll find out if they are legit or not.
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Appalachian State wins again! That win last week against North Carolina looks even better this week lol
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I expected a big win at home against a bad Purdue team and that's what happened. Now the season really starts, 5-0 is nice but we didn't beat anyone. Next three games are against current top 25 teams and 2 of those are on the road. At the end of October, we will know for sure what kind of team PSU is.
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Tough loss for Cal...second string QB, skeleton crew O-line, and walking into the ever dangerous Autzen Stadium to face the No 13 Ducks. Actually shut them out for the first half, can't even think of a time that's happened in recent memory, but the team depth proved too much for our D, they found their cracks and put a few into the zone. Modster, the 2nd string QB, showed some signs of brilliance, and makes me feel a bit more hopeful that our starter will be our for the forseable future. With our toughest game of the season out of the way, lets see what we can make of the rest of the year.
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Big win for Appalachian State last night on the road at Louisiana, who was probably the second-best team in the conference.
They should roll through the rest of conference play. If they can also manage to beat South Carolina, and if Boise State slips, they could be looking at a big New Year's bowl game! How exciting!
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I'm worried about this weekend's game at Iowa. It's a night game and they are doing their stripe out with the crowd. PSU has beaten Iowa I think 5 times in a row now, so I should feel more comfortable but Iowa has also been known to upset PSU quite often especially at home at night. Also, easily the toughest game of the season so far so this is a real challenge for our first year QB. I feel our defense is really really good so I'm not worried about them scoring too much, but I am worried about how much we can score.
In other news, PSU was featured last night on HBO's new 24/7 College Football show which is similar to Hard Knocks but just focuses on one school for the episode for one week of practice going into a game, which was filmed the week before leading up to the Purdue game last weekend. I watched some and really enjoyed it, I'll watch the rest tonight. I really like Coach Franklin, he hasn't been the greatest game day coach (look at all the close losses when leading in the 4th quarter for example) but he comes off as a such a good guy that you'd want to be leading your team.
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Just checking in to express my fondness for LSU beating Florida. Two top 10 victories and zero games scoring less than 42 points feels quite nice. Really looking forward to the bama game since we finally have an offense to be proud of.
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Wow, LSU looks scary good.
Also, really proud of my alma mater Appalachian State, getting ranked # 24 in both major polls. :metal And we have a game against South Carolina (the Georgia-slayers) in a few weeks.
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LSU looks really strong, that'll be a good one when they play Bama.
I stumbled into a bar after the Incubus concert in DC and ended up with some PSU alum to watch the end of the Iowa game. Seems it was a big 10 defensive game and I'm glad we came out on top. First test of the season passed, not with flying colors but a win on the road against a ranked team at night is all I need to be satisfied. Now Michigan comes on the road at night to PSU and bring on college gameday!
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don't know if it's been lack of competition or if Wisconsin is actually this good, but the Badgers have been rolling everyone.
will know in two weeks when they travel to Ohio St.
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don't know if it's been lack of competition or if Wisconsin is actually this good, but the Badgers have been rolling everyone.
will know in two weeks when they travel to Ohio St.
A mix of both I'd think. Wisconsin's a good team, are they #6 worthy? I ask the same thing about PSU being #7 now. Things will be settled on the field. Also Minnesota 6-0 out of no where, but also not tested.
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Also, really proud of my alma mater Appalachian State, getting ranked # 24 in both major polls.
It'd be awesome if they somehow managed to gradually become a perennial power. I think it'd easily take 10-15 years for it to happen but Howard Schnellenberger did so with Miami and Boise St. flirted with it a decade ago so it seems it's still possible for the have-nots to break through and dine with the blue bloods.
Now Michigan comes on the road at night to PSU and bring on college gameday!
If you leave a tooth under your pillow the night before CGD comes to town, Lee Corso has to say "Fuck" on live TV. There's actually a law.
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Lee Corso is so hard to listen to, he totally messed up the We Are chant on college gameday, regardless and I am baised here, PSU has the best college gameday atmosphere.
I'm bringing my work phone to the Toto concert tonight to stream the PSU game. I dont plan on watching, but to check in from time to time. I'm in the last row so I wouldnt be bothering anyone if I pulled it out to watch for a moment either.
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Oh Bucky
https://youtu.be/27evSVwjzzI
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that was a tough loss, I was rooting for Wisconsin there too
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CCU/GSO went 3OT and that was overshadowed by UNC/VT 6 OVERTIMES!!!
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CCU/GSO went 3OT and that was overshadowed by UNC/VT 6 OVERTIMES!!!
I watched the UNC game. No one wanted to win.
I've gotta say I really like the extended OT rule changes. Once you get to the fifth OT, no more 4 downs from the 25. You get one play, a 2pt conversion from the 3. It was pretty cool. Kind of like going to a shootout in hockey.
Appalachian State becomes the first team from the Sun Belt to win as a ranked team. Looking forward to the South Carolina game in a couple of weeks.
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That whiteout atmosphere looked insane last weekend. Looked like PSU might give up a game after a nice lead so it was really good to see us hold on where as PSU under Franklin has lost those games in the 4th quarter previously. Michigan State this weekend, we should beat them on paper, but it's on the road and MSU has upset us the last couple years. Going to be a big challenge, and if they pass that, they get to stay on the road and play a likely 8-0 Minnesota team.
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Hey, lonestar. Our teams face off this weekend. Are we going to have a friendly bet this year?
Looks like the Bears are pretty banged up on offence (I haven't really been following them closely the last several weeks) but your defense seems up to the task. With Cal's history of knocking down ranked teams, are you looking forward to the game?
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A bet? That depends, am I getting the 21 pts you guys are favored by? :p
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Illinois had a HUGE win against an undefeated Wisconsin over the weekend. It was a definite boost for the team and for us fans and alumni. We'll have to see if it helps them turn the season around...that 3 week schedule of Minnesota/Michigan/Wisconsin was brutal.
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Not watching the game, thankfully, but it seems Utah is pretty much having their way with Cal.
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Big 10 is looking good as well as the SEC, so glad to see Notre Dame go down :yarr
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35-0 after the 3rd, and Cal has a sum total of 60yds passing and 17 rushing. Damn.
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A bet? That depends, am I getting the 21 pts you guys are favored by? :p
Dang, I missed that earlier.
35-0 after the 3rd, and Cal has a sum total of 60yds passing and 17 rushing. Damn.
Cal had a decent rushing attack on the first series, then it got pretty well shut down. The reason it showed 17 rushing yards at that point was primarily because the QB was sacked a few times and lost about 35 yards in one possession.
I think Brasch is going to be great at some point, but damn is he young now.
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The Big Ten is Ohio State and then it’s everyone else. Bucky held for just over a half but the obvious talent gap showed the rest of the game.
If the Badgers win out they get a rematch, but I fear the results will be the same.
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A bet? That depends, am I getting the 21 pts you guys are favored by? :p
Dang, I missed that earlier.
35-0 after the 3rd, and Cal has a sum total of 60yds passing and 17 rushing. Damn.
Cal had a decent rushing attack on the first series, then it got pretty well shut down. The reason it showed 17 rushing yards at that point was primarily because the QB was sacked a few times and lost about 35 yards in one possession.
I think Brasch is going to be great at some point, but damn is he young now.
They're just way to beat up on both lines to be anywhere near competitive, especially that o-line. Oh well, at least we were ranked for a brief week.
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The poll voters pulled their heads out of their asses for one week to finally rank LSU #1 in the AP just so they can drop them 6 spots if they lose to bama. Crazy that LSU, with two top 10 victories, was still ranked behind them despite their only ranked victory being against a #24 Texas A&M who's now unranked with 3 losses.
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Yup, LSU deserves to be #1, OSU should be #2 but it doesn't matter much as most of this will be settled on the field still :yarr
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Appalachian State gets a home game against longtime archrival Georgia Southern on Halloween Night on ESPNU, before the game at South Carolina November 9th on ESPN2. Great to be able to actually watch my team play in these big games!
If they get through those games, and roll through the rest of their conference games undefeated, they could have the makings of a very special season, especially if some of the other Group of Five teams ranked above/around them (SMU, Cincinnati, Boise State, Memphis) could do us a favor and lose between now and the end of the season. Of course, SMU and Memphis play this week, and Memphis plays Cincinnati at the end of the season.
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Sadly a 4 team playoff leaves no room for an unbeaten non p5 team. I just can't see the committee ever even considering it unless everyone else had 2 losses. Which sucks because I think most people do enjoy seeing those Boise St vs. OKlahoma type games, and more so when there's something on the line other than a glorified scrimmage. I do hope they go undefeated and say beat the #5 team soundly to make people question a 4 team playoff further.
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Sadly a 4 team playoff leaves no room for an unbeaten non p5 team. I just can't see the committee ever even considering it unless everyone else had 2 losses. Which sucks because I think most people do enjoy seeing those Boise St vs. OKlahoma type games, and more so when there's something on the line other than a glorified scrimmage. I do hope they go undefeated and say beat the #5 team soundly to make people question a 4 team playoff further.
True, but the highest ranked Group of 5 team gets a New Year's Day bowl bid. Which gets us at least one "Boise/Oklahoma" game.
Of course, this year that could equate a Boise/Oklahoma rematch!
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True, it's certainly a great season, just sucks the system is set up in a way that isn't fair for the occasional Cinderella
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Sorry to see that App State dropped one. Tough loss, Hef.
The only other upsets that I can see are SMU (who we all probably suspected wasn't as good as their ranking) and Florida.
Tough victory for the Utes over the Dawgs. Man, I was so impressed with the Huskies preparation and beginning the game playing with pride and intensity. They were probably insulted to have the Utes favored (I would be with their history) on their home field and played like it. But in the end, the relentless play of the Utes looked like it exhausted Washington. Those two 4th quarter drives by Utah were a-typical of their team: lots of rushes, quick strike passes, eat up the clock, grind out the yardage, pound it into the end zone.
Well the part of the season where we have to play programs and teams I respect is over. Now I can truly hate the opponents with UCLA, Arizona and Colorado left to play! :biggrin:
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Dawgs game out blazing, I thought you guys were fucked. Utes showed some great resilience and tenacity in a bitch of a hostile environment. Things are building up to a hell of a showdown with the Ducks for what will probably be a playoff spot.
Cal thankfully had a bye, we fucking needed it man....
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Good wins for Coastal, Southern and Boise St, but EMU and LIU...oof.
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Saturday is going to be a good one. Thought last week's slate of games was fairly weak, but LSU vs Bama alone should be a good one. No idea who this Minnesota team is but we will find out soon enough. I'm a bit worried with the early kick off (Noon EST, but 11am locally in Minnesota) and traveling to a really cold outdoor game. I'm very confident we are the better team, but that's why they play the game. And we get the CFP poll this week as well so something more official from a standings perspective although it won't mean much as if a Baylor or Minnesota who won't be ranked high win out, they will be in.
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Illinois is on a roll! After losing 4 weeks in a row, they've strung together three wins over the last 3 weeks. If they win once more this month (vs. Michigan State, Iowa or Northwestern), they'll be bowl-eligible for the first time while under Lovie Smith (4 years). We currently have the most wins in the last four years as well, with 5 total.
Despite the losing streak earlier, it's been a nice turnaround for the team and I've had fun watching them play over the last few weeks, which is nice to be able to say about my guys.
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It's a little bit bullshit that Clemson is ranked #5 in the initial CFP ranking.
I know that games in the upcoming weeks will take care of that to some extent. But it's still bullshit.
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How? Their SOS is garbage and will be until they reach the playoff. Not too much difference between them, Baylor, and Minnesota if you look at this year only. However, obviously, I think we all know they are really good and have been the best or 2nd best team in college ball for years now consistently. However, that's not supposed to matter. The reality is, they will be #4 at beast come next week and are 100% in if they win out which is all that matters. I will say, I was surprised to see the committee actually do what was right, although I'm torn over OSU or LSU as being #1, that's a tough call and kind of more meaningful since being #1 is kind of cool. Being 4 or 5 is meaningless at this point.
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So my dad told us that he want to do a father-5 sons sports centered trip. Of course all of us being college fans, it will probably center around a famed NCAA program. Frontrunners are Notre Dame, Penn St, Michigan, Auburn, Bama, LSU, Texas. We're also looking into connecting it with an NFL game, a MLB game, and maybe a racetrack (horse). One game that is standing out though is Wisconsin V Notre Dame at Lambeu field.
I'll take suggestions of course, but remember parameters, that it has to involve multiple franchises within driving distance. (for example, LSU has a home game with Texas, and we could catch a Saints game as well as dive into NO cuisine). So if you got a college suggestion, maybe suggest other things/sports we can enjoy.
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I think PSU has a fantastic campus and maybe the best gameday atmosphere for a home game (I can't personally compare, just what the folks on college gameday consistently say every year PSU hosts them but statistically its no doubt one of the biggest there is), however, I'm not sure they fit an itinerary unless you are willing to road trip. PSU is dead center of PA, not near anything. 3 hour drive west to Pittsburgh or 3 hour drive east to Philly. 4 hour drive to NYC.
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How? Their SOS is garbage and will be until they reach the playoff. Not too much difference between them, Baylor, and Minnesota if you look at this year only. However, obviously, I think we all know they are really good and have been the best or 2nd best team in college ball for years now consistently. However, that's not supposed to matter. The reality is, they will be #4 at beast come next week and are 100% in if they win out which is all that matters. I will say, I was surprised to see the committee actually do what was right, although I'm torn over OSU or LSU as being #1, that's a tough call and kind of more meaningful since being #1 is kind of cool. Being 4 or 5 is meaningless at this point.
I'm not comparing them to Baylor and Minnesota. We both know those two will fizzle out.
Just compare them with Alabama. Here is how Clemson compares with Alabama.
Neither has beaten a Top 25 team.
Both teams have the same "best win": Texas A&M.
However, Clemson has beaten more Power 5 teams than Alabama has.
Clemson has beaten more teams with winning records than Alabama has.
Clemson's opponents have a better overall winning percentage than Alabama's.
Clemson is being punished for having to survive a close game - but survive they did.
But by any real metrics, they can't be determined to be worse than Alabama - meaning they should at least be in the Top 4.
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Or Alabama should be 4 and psu 3. I agree bama hasn't played anyone and are also getting by from their name. But they eye test matters as well. You can't tell me Alabama hasn't looked like a better team than clemson at this point. There is also the SEC bias you typically see but they didn't rank LSU 1 so I don't know. At the end of the day, its meaningless.
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Looks to be a solid day of games today, have a feeling it'll be aa vastly different top 5 come Monday.
Cal will be limping to the finish line, up in Pullman today, really not expecting much. Just please, let us beat usc next week.
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today is maybe the biggest Minnesota football game in 16 years.
I don't expect Minnesota to beat Penn State, but if it happens, my mind may start to believe this could be their year.
I still feel though, regardless, until NCAA Div I football has a full-on, at least 16-team playoff, the best team at the end of year isn't the one who wins the championship.
edit: game just started, Minnesota just picked off Penn State.
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Good game so far... Seems it's gonna come down to whoever has the ball last.
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PSU played a terrible first half. I want to break my TV. Luckily, it was only the half and they can turn this around if they wake tf up
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Minnesota managed to hold on.
Sky-U-Mah as they say at Minnesota.
I don't have a lot of hope for them getting into the National Championship picture, but winning the Big 10 West seems like a reasonable possibility.
If Minnesota manage to do that, they would likely play Ohio State in the Big 10 Championship game, and be big underdogs.
Even if Minnesota lost that game, there may be a chance Minnesota could play in their 1st Rose Bowl in my lifetime (I was born in 1976, the last Rose Bowl was 1961).
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Great showing by the Gophers, really happy for them. That town is gonna be doing some serious partying tonight. Nothing like a college town on the heels of a historic upset, I was there when Cal beat UCLA in basketball for the first time in over 20 years back in the late '80s, and I'd gather we drank the town dry.
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Ok, really can't see a situation that puts anyone but LSU on top of the playoff rankings. Great game for sure, glad that Bama worked their way back in, but it's hard to spot a team like LSU 20 points in the first and expect a W. Burrow is the real deal man, what a performance.
And in the minor leagues, Cal is leading WSU 6-2, 35 seconds into the first quarter. You guys figure that one out. :lol
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OK, so on Saturday, I wanted LSU to beat Alabama, Minnesota to beat Penn State, and Appalachian State to beat South Carolina.
Mission accomplished.
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And the PSU gauntlet continues, no one knew Minnesota would be this good this year and I certainly didn't expect Indiana to be 7-2 and ranked in the top 25 for this game. Indiana has a good pass offense, which PSU's pass defense was totally exposed by Minnesota. I'm very worried for this team now. If they finish 10-2 (losing to OSU) it's still a very strong season, but if they fall to Indiana, it not only makes the OSU game meaningless, it makes the whole season kind of a failure. Also our coach has followed a mid season loss with another loss, every single year. Got to break that trend.
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I turned the Illinois game off - they were down 28-3 against Michigan State. While putting my daughter to bed, I noticed a facebook update about them making a game of it. She wasn't fully tired yet, so we got back up and I caught the last minute. These guys scored a last-second touchdown to take the lead! It was the largest comeback in school history. I'm so happy for these kids and for Lovie Smith. They've turned things around this year and I never expected it at all after several years of not being very good. They are now bowl eligible for the first time under Lovey.
Two games left...Iowa will be tough and the usual season-ending game against Northwestern should be a win, since Northwestern is floundering. My only hope each year is a winning record and a bowl game, and we have a very good chance at doing both!
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Another surprise Big 10 team. While MSU was expected to be good and aren't.
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One quarter in, and Baylor is making this a statement game so far, total domination man.
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One quarter in, and Baylor is making this a statement game so far, total domination man.
Ultimately, not the statement they were hoping for.
Speaking of total domination... How ‘bout dem Utes?!
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Yeah wtf happened? I step out for a burrito and Wham!! They lose...
Utes are looking amazing, I'd gather them and the Ducks will be playing for a playoff spot in the pac12 championship game.
Cal is getting schooled by SC. God I fucking hate SC.
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God I fucking hate SC.
Amen, brother. Amen!
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Not a fan of USC, but my hate is reserved for the Suckeyes and especially the Semen-holes.
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I feel confident in saying that USC is my single most hated sports franchise. Fuck them, fuck their student body, fuck that stupid horse, fuck those overplayed lame ass fight songs played by a hack band. Fuck SC.
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:lol
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:lol
My most hated college teams:
Michigan
Ohio State
Notre Dame
USC
Rutgers
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Wouldn't be surprised if PSU jumped the two Pac12 teams in the rankings tonight based on SOS to move to #6, but it'll be another quick week of moving up as I expect them to get SMOKED by OSU on Saturday. This PSU defense has really regressed after being exposed in the second half of the Michigan game (I think Michigan would beat PSU if they played now vs a month ago). OSU is just too strong all over and are sitting at 18 point favorites last time I checked. I'd actually put money on OSU which hurts to say. I just don't see how they can keep it close and out of the top 10 PSU goes with 2 losses and no chance of the playoffs. I hope so badly I am wrong, I just don't see how they can win this game without a terrible performance from OSU.
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Well I was wrong, but I'm not sure I understand how they come up with these rankings...
#4 Georgia has good wins over 8-2 ND, 9-2 Florida, and 7-3 Auburn, has maybe the worse loss to 4-7 South Carolina. I think they have the best wins, but also the worst loss of the bunch.
#5 Alabama's best win over 7-3 Texas A&M but has the "best loss" from 10-0 LSU, their QB is out for the season now. I don't agree with this ranking right now, their schedule is pretty weak and this week they play 3-8 Western Carolina. The committee should move them down just for that. I really hope Auburn beats them so they can be knocked out and not put into the hands of the committee.
#6 Oregon's best win over 7-4 USC on the road and has a loss to 7-3 Auburn. I think they deserve to be above Utah and below the SEC teams base on the loss to Auburn.
#7 Utah's best win over 6-4 Washington and loss to 7-4 USC. Don't agree with them at #7 at all.
#8 Penn States best win over 8-2 Michigan, 7-3 Iowa on the road, 7-3 Indiana, and 7-3 Pitt. Loss on the road to 9-1 Minnesota in a close game. How is that not more impressive than the above 3 teams?
#9 Oklahoma best win at 9-1 Baylor and has a loss to 6-4 Kansas St. I think they belong ahead of Utah, but behind Oregon.
Minnesota and Baylor aren't worth talking about just yet, although they will be in the discussion if both win out.
Anyway, none of this matters as PSU gets beat this weekend removing them from discussion and Utah/Oregon will battle it out in the Pac12 championship eliminating one of them for sure. The SEC seems like it could possibly squeeze 3 1 loss teams out this year which would be a disaster for the other conferences and the current rankings don't help that cause.
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Cram,
Those are all good points, and I don't really disagree. My guess is those teams that PSU beat that have winning records (Michigan, Iowa, Indiana and Pitt) aren't exactly getting their wins from quality teams or with enough "style points" (god, I hate that argument). The wins against Pitt and Iowa were pretty close and low scoring. I also think it hasn't helped your campaign that you started the year playing the Idaho Vandals, of all programs. :lol
While Oregon did loose to Auburn, they controlled most of the game and only really lost in the end due to poor clock management and some questionable strategy by the coaching staff. They're 9-0 since then. I think they've earned their spot.
As for the Utes, I think it's the way they've been winning for the last six weeks that's probably impressed the voters. They've been destroying every opponent with the exception of Washington (that game wasn't as close as the final score though). The PAC12 doesn't have any real perennial losing teams but every year we have some programs that struggle. That being said, every school has good, proud, programs that can compete on any given night. Cal's record isn't good this year, but you can't over look them like you could with, say, Rutgers. :biggrin: Ultimately, Utah's non-conference match ups weren't very impressive either, so they probably don't deserve being ranked #7. Now, if they win out and destroy Oregon in the PAC12 championship, I'll be singing a different tune. :lol
I don't know, like I said last year, give us an 8 game playoff and all this speculation goes out the window.
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Michigan destroyed ND though. Indiana and Pitt have 0 quality wins, I'll give you that, but they have just as many wins as Auburn, Texas AM, USC and more than Kansas St, and Washington (teams I referenced). Iowa beat 9-1 Minnesota and 6-4 Iowa State on the road. There ARE some quality wins from the teams PSU beat.
I do think you must be right about the way they are winning (both in regards to PSU and Utah). But I do look at competition being a reason for that.
I don't know, like I said last year, give us an 8 game playoff and all this speculation goes out the window.
YUP YUP YUP
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Michigan destroyed ND though. Indiana and Pitt have 0 quality wins, I'll give you that, but they have just as many wins as Auburn, Texas AM, USC and more than Kansas St, and Washington (teams I referenced). Iowa beat 9-1 Minnesota and 6-4 Iowa State on the road. There ARE some quality wins from the teams PSU beat.
I agree.
Oh, and another thing that may be impressing the selection committee about Utah, is that they have seven players that have been invited to the Senior Bowl. A running back and six defensive players.
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And the OSU beat down will begin now, I'm babysitting my nieces who are sleeping so I can't yell at my TV
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You’re back up quarterback is doing a nice job! Dammit.
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Dropped snap by the freshman hurt us so much after a nice momentum swing, now it swung back the other way
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It was only a matter of time ‘til the red shirt freshman threw an interception.
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Got home and saw it was 21-17 and thought, "Cool, a good game!" And then I saw a PSU punt, an OSU TD to make it 28-17, and then a PSU INT. :lol :facepalm: Only question now is if Penn State can hang on and cover the spread.
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Cal down by 7, one quarter left. Let's see if this'll turn into another historic Big Game...
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Oh yeah.....
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ASU is about to fuck up the Pac 12's playoff chances by bringing the pain to the Ducks...up 14 pts with about 12 minutes to go. I feel pretty certain that if both the Ducks and Utes aren't 11-1 going into the title game, neither has a shot at the playoffs.
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Yeah, I'm as disappointed with the Ducks performance as I'm pleased that the Utes took care of business. Of course, as a fan I was never expecting a shot at the playoffs. I'll be super stoked if the Utes win out and make it to the Rose Bowl...that would go well beyond my preseason expectations.
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Yeah, I'm as disappointed with the Ducks performance as I'm pleased that the Utes took care of business. Of course, as a fan I was never expecting a shot at the playoffs. I'll be super stoked if the Utes win out and make it to the Rose Bowl...that would go well beyond my preseason expectations.
I think if the Ducks and Utes went into that title game 11-1, they'd be very hard pressed to leave the winner out. As is, I still think there's an outside shot if the Utes run it out. They have the team for sure, I've watched them a bit these last four weeks since they spanked the shit out of Cal, they're as impressive as any team out there, and are peaking at just the right moment. I can totally see them running the table from here and forcing the committee to leave them out and confirm once again that east coast bias ruled college football.
On a totally different note, I was on a hike today and passed a dude with a Stanfurd hat. Gave him a smile and a "Go Bears"....he laughed and grumbled. Felt good, first time in almost a decade....
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On a totally different note, I was on a hike today and passed a dude with a Stanfurd hat. Gave him a smile and a "Go Bears"....he laughed and grumbled. Felt good, first time in almost a decade....
Nice! :lol
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I’m excited to see the Badgers gets smoked by Ohio State again.
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As much as I hate Ohio St. they are definitely a team to beat.
Utes looking solid after 5 straight kick ass games heading into the Pac 12 title game. With Bama losing, hopefully we can see them slide into the playoffs.
Cal finishes strong witha good showing against the Bruins. 7-5, with a sure bowl game on the horizon. Could have been a very different season if it weren't for the barrage of midseason injuries.
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Could see Utah vs PSU in the rose bowl, Minnesota losing and if Wisconsin loses to OSU means PSU is most likely to get to the rose. Just depends if Utah wins and doesn't make the playoff. Might make for some fun DTF smack talk :biggrin:
I'd rather utah make they playoffs than a second SEC team but that is likely going to be in the committee's hand plus Oklahoma.
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Well if all the favorites win, then I think we'll be seeing LSU vs Utah and Ohio St. vs Clemson
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If Georgia beats LSU, would Georgia get in and Utah out, assuming Utah also wins?
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I'd imagine so, even though it'd be a crime. I always felt they should institute a rule that you need to win your conference to compete for the title. It's a simple and straightforward thing, it makes total sense, and would eliminate a good deal of this bullshit.
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If Georgia and Utah both lose, who gets the 4th spot? The winner of Oklahoma/Baylor? Or would the committee trip over themselves to still give it to Alabama?
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If Georgia and Utah both lose, who gets the 4th spot? The winner of Oklahoma/Baylor? Or would the committee trip over themselves to still give it to Alabama?
I'd hope the winner of the Big 12, but wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC love continue. However that would be a huge change of precedent as no 2 loss team has made it to the playoff yet. It would be a big FU to the Big 12 as well. I can only see that happening though if Baylor won as they are currently a bit behind in the rankings. We'll have a better idea when this weeks rankings come out.
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Clearly, if LSU, Ohio State, and Clemson all win their conference title games, they are in. I suspect that Utah is # 4 in that scenario, as long as they win their title game.
If LSU or Ohio State lose, I think they are still in, based on their body of work.
If LSU loses, Georgia will be a second SEC team in the playoff. I think this is the only scenario that gets the SEC two teams.
If Clemson loses their title game, they are out. Conference is too down this year.
I don't think the Big 12 winner will get in unless Clemson or Utah lose their title game.
Recipe for chaos is LSU and Ohio State winning, but Clemson and Utah losing. In that scenario, I would assume that the Oklahoma/Baylor winner gets in, and then the fourth spot goes to...Florida, maybe? Or maybe they bite the bullet and keep Clemson in anyway. *shrugs*
I'm just hoping for Memphis and Boise State to lose THEIR title games, which will result in Appalachian State being the highest ranked Group of 5 team (assuming we win our title game, of course).
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I think the assumption is Utah is in over Oklahoma if both win, but I'm not entirely sure how you separate those two. Obviously a huge reason why the playoff is a joke as 1 loss conference champs should get their shot. However, it's possible that the committee sees Oklahoma beating Baylor as a bigger win than Utah beating Oregon. That recent Oregon loss was bad for the Pac12. Having said that, the committee has had Utah over Oklahoma so that shouldn't be an issue but I can totally see it being a thing especially if the wins are lopsided (Oklahoma destroying Baylor and Utah pulling out a close one). Who knows. I think Hef's got it mostly right by all accounts today, but it's people who make the decisions and people act irrationally at times. Especially when those people are athletic directors for teams who are actively in the hunt or have associations with teams that are.
I'm just mostly annoyed with Bama still being ranked highly in the AP poll. There's no reason Florida, Alabama, and Auburn should be ahead of PSU. It's an SEC bias that all wins against SEC are worthy and all losses to SEC are the best losses. Such as Alabama beating NO ONE this season and losing the only two games against top 25 opponents. Luckily the playoff polls have been better than the AP or coaches poll lately. PSU didn't look good against Rutgers (although won fine) thanks to the back up QB playing but I guess that's only considered when Alabama loses a game.
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Watched the rankings show last night while working out. Rankings seem legit as is right now. What surprises me, is that everyone seemed to agree that Clemson is in regardless of their title game. I call BS on that. They should be out if they lose and Utah takes their spot. Definitely a tougher schedule for Utah over Clemson.
Also, my discussion previously about a weaker Utah schedule over PSU seems to have been confirmed by a committee member on the show that although Utah's schedule has been weaker compared to other 1 loss teams, they pass the eye test and that's why they are above Oklahoma (and above PSU when both were one loss).
The panel also discussed an Oklahoma or Baylor BIG win could have them leapfrog Utah if they play a close game since the committee has both Oklahoma and Baylor a bit ahead of Oregon in the rankings.
I'm not entirely sold on Wisconsin being 6 though. Losing to Illinois was a bad loss (how did Illinois lose to Northwestern last weekend?) and they should be behind PSU IMO. It seems Herbstreit thinks Wisconsin is guaranteed the Rose and they shouldn't move down the rankings with a loss to OSU again. I say, they should swap spots with PSU now and unless they win, thats how it should stay. Part of my just thinks this is the committee making this weekends games look better.
The best part may be Alabamas big drop to 12 where they belong due to not a single top 25 win. I do love that.
So my hopes now are for PSU to end up in the Rose Bowl. I think OSU needs to beat down Wisconsin for that to happen. If not, there's a slight chance still for Orange (if LSU loses to Georgia sending both to the playoffs, this opens up the possibility) or the Cotton which is less likely. It kind of sucks if things fall a certain way though and PSU ends up in the Outback bowl. I really would like to see PSU play Utah in the Rose. It's the best possible team they could play IMO and that's what I want as a fan. I understand that would be a big disappointment for Utah fans though.
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Not this Utah fan! The Rose Bowl would be perfect. While a trip to the playoffs would be awesome for the program, I’m not sure it’s warranted. Utah needs to schedule better non-conference teams first.
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Not this Utah fan! The Rose Bowl would be perfect. While a trip to the playoffs would be awesome for the program, I’m not sure it’s warranted. Utah needs to schedule better non-conference teams first.
Warranted or not, I can't imagine rather being in the Rose than playoffs though. It's also better for the conference your team is in to be represented. Either way, 1 loss power conference champs SHOULD have a chance. I hate how it comes down to human perception and statistics although it certainly makes it an interesting conversation.
Now that I think of it, Utah being new to the Pac12 has actually never played in the Grandaddy of them all. It's certainly the most prestigious bowl and I think getting an invite is something to truly be excited about. But if roles were reversed here, I'd be pretty upset to be left out of the playoffs just like PSU was a few years ago. It seemed the team came out a bit flat that game too, probably also disappointed but then again... that was one hell of a game. Just sucks it's meaningless when you are SO close and relatively equally deserving to be playing for a championship.
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It's certainly the most prestigious bowl
With the greatest of respect, this is only true for Big 10 and Pac 12 fans. The rest of the country doesn't hold it in that high a regard.
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It's certainly the most prestigious bowl
With the greatest of respect, this is only true for Big 10 and Pac 12 fans. The rest of the country doesn't hold it in that high a regard.
Sure if you aren't eligible for an invite you won't hold it as high as regards, but it's the oldest and termed the "grandaddy of them all". It's usually ranked as the #1 most prestigious bowl game behind the BCS NC or now playoff games. The next one's up, not sure if it would be Sugar or Orange, could be better in a given year based on match ups, but neither have the history and neither have the better venue (although I've never been to the sugar but can't imagine the Superdome being a better environment than the Rose).
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It's certainly the most prestigious bowl
With the greatest of respect, this is only true for Big 10 and Pac 12 fans. The rest of the country doesn't hold it in that high a regard.
Sure if you aren't eligible for an invite you won't hold it as high as regards, but it's the oldest and termed the "grandaddy of them all". It's usually ranked as the #1 most prestigious bowl game behind the BCS NC or now playoff games. The next one's up, not sure if it would be Sugar or Orange, could be better in a given year based on match ups, but neither have the history and neither have the better venue (although I've never been to the sugar but can't imagine the Superdome being a better environment than the Rose).
Yeah, but it's still looked at as "other" by every conference other than the Pac 12 or Big 10. No teams in any other conference (or their fans) really care very much about it at all (except as something fun to watch) unless it's one of the odd years where it is part of the playoff. That's all I'm saying.
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Yea, that's fair and the one positive of the playoffs is that other teams do get the chance to play in the Rose. I kind of wish these NY6 bowls would drop their conference allegiances so we'd get the best match ups. Sometimes it works out, other times.... not so much. Like it's pretty much guaranteed Virginia is going to the Orange Bowl and that's crap if you ask me because they don't belong in the conversation this year with the top teams who are trying to get an invite to a NY6 bowl.
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Yea, that's fair and the one positive of the playoffs is that other teams do get the chance to play in the Rose. I kind of wish these NY6 bowls would drop their conference allegiances so we'd get the best match ups. Sometimes it works out, other times.... not so much. Like it's pretty much guaranteed Virginia is going to the Orange Bowl and that's crap if you ask me because they don't belong in the conversation this year with the top teams who are trying to get an invite to a NY6 bowl.
I agree with all of this.
Of course, I have never really agreed with or understood the bowl system anyway. As weird as it is, I could accept it more when there weren't 75 bowl games to be played.
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As someone whose team hasn't seen a Rose Bowl since '59,id take it.
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Should be a fun game tonight, this is why I love college ball, every game has meaning for the big picture this weekend
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On vacation in Palm Springs California. Just sitting down getting ready for the game. Can’t wait to find out what happens! Go Utes!
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I understood the logic of going for it on 4th down, but I think punting would have been better.
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Pretenders exposed.
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Tough first quarter
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Wow, it looks like Utah has adjusted since the first quarter and this is a game :metal
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Well shit... I was really pulling for the Utes too. Didn't watch the game, but it seems the Ducks were a hit pissed about losing last week. So I guess it's Oregon in the rose bowl and the Utes will get some top tier non playoff game. Oklahoma fans gotta be happy....
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Really, it was the second year in a row that the Utes looked surprised that their opponent was fired up. The coaches need to learn to unleash these kids in big games. The Ducks came out breathing fire and caught the Utes flat footed. Our team isn’t really built around the concept of catching up, so spotting a good team three scores is not a winning strategy.
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Well shit... I was really pulling for the Utes too. Didn't watch the game, but it seems the Ducks were a hit pissed about losing last week. So I guess it's Oregon in the rose bowl and the Utes will get some top tier non playoff game. Oklahoma fans gotta be happy....
Like maybe the Siesta Bowl presented by Massengill?
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And with the Ducks, if they get you on your heels and they're fired up, you're fucked. That team is way to dangerous to even give an inch.
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Well shit... I was really pulling for the Utes too. Didn't watch the game, but it seems the Ducks were a hit pissed about losing last week. So I guess it's Oregon in the rose bowl and the Utes will get some top tier non playoff game. Oklahoma fans gotta be happy....
Like maybe the Siesta Bowl presented by Massengill?
:lol
Feel bad for you guys, I was pulling for the Utes if for nothing else than to shit on the playoff system but also for you guys as well here. Watched the first quarter and it was just as bad as it could get for Utah. Some good playing in the 3rd to make it interesting and had me watching again but just lost it again. Another year without the pac12 represented. Hoping LSU wins today so Georgia doesn't get the SEC with two teams. I'd rather Oklahoma or Baylor get a shot. Kind of rooting for Baylor too today.
Also rooting for Ohio State to win and win BIG. They need to make Wisconsin look like they need to fall in the rankings so they go behind PSU and give PSU the rose bowl. I'm also at the point where I am rooting for my conference and most think OSU is in with a loss, but I want them to win the championship at this point (unless Baylor makes it, I'll root for them as they are more of a cindarella at this point and coached by a former PSU guy)
As for the bolded above, I'm speaking of football only. PSU plays OSU in bball at noon in what could be a really solid game. Screw you buckeyes! :lol
If things align for PSU vs Oregon in the rose, it will be a nice rematch from 95 when PSU last went undefeated
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Careful what you wish for....
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Badgers bullying the Buckeyes in the first half.
I approve.
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Badgers bullying the Buckeyes in the first half.
I approve.
Seconded.
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I'm shocked by that first half although didnt get to watch. THe Big 12 game was a good one and I checked out after Georgia started pulling away. I'll have to wacth this second half now that I'm back home. Really wanted OSU to win, for personal reasons we all know. It would be nice for Wisconsin to win because I would say they are one of my favorites in the big 10, but it just won't matter in the big picture (I doubt OSU misses the playoffs and that kind of makes me mad about this system).
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Almost a carbon copy of their first meeting.
Ohio St. just has too much talent.
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I'd say we're looking at...
(1) LSU vs (4) Oklahoma, (2) Ohio St. vs (3) Clemson.
I think I'm more intrigued by the lower tier games though...lots and lots of serious talent to choose from. And who will end up with the wrath of a playoff-less Bama??
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Not happy that Wisconsin didn't drop below PSU after losing to OSU (both by more than PSU lost to OSU, including their loss to Illinois). At the end of the day, PSU still goes to a NY6 bowl game against #17 Memphis. A much more winnable game than Oregon but I always like playing the best to be the best. Oh well, let's just win and go into next year feeling good.
Also not entirely sure LSU should be #1, I think it does matter as you'd rather play Oklahoma than Clemson, but it's definitely a close call between LSU and OSU so it's hard to argue against it other than I have my own Big10 bias.
EDIT:
Committee member said the reason PSU over Utah (they are 11 and the reason why PSU goes to the Cotton over Utah) was because PSU had 2 wins over ranked opponents and Utah had lost their two games against ranked opponents.
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App State won their conference. What do they get?
A second straight trip to the New Orleans Bowl to face UAB (*yawn*). Oh, and they lost their coach to Missouri.
Yay!
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Hef, what other bowls does your conference champs usually get invited to? Isn't the New Orleans bowl kinda traditional? I agree that you guys deserve a shot at a bigger named program with a better record than UAB. What would have pleased you more?
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That's part of the unfortunate bowl tie ins it seems. Unless they were the top ranked non P5 team like Memphis, the NO bowl was always the going to be their destination and since App St seems like a real solid team, seems that might be their yearly destination unless they go undefeated. It does kind of suck though, I know I wouldn't be happy as a fan.
Some good news for my team, our OC is leaving the program to be head coach at Old Dominion. It seems almost everyone who follows PSU football has not been a fan of his OC job since being promoted to it after Joe Morehead left to be Miss St head coach and our offense went downhill big time. He improved a bit this year so I didn't think they'd fire him (plus he is close with Franklin) but him leaving on his own seems like the best for PSU and best for him. This loss has me saying what Franklin says whenever we land a big time recruit (which we did today as well) except in this case it's losing a coach "we are... better"
I'm warming up to the Cotton Bowl. We've never played there since I've been a fan, it's the game before the two playoff semis so it sets the slate for a big day of college ball, and it's a team we can beat to get to 11 wins and end the season in the top 10. I want momentum going into next season because most predicted us to be 8-4 and maybe the 3rd or 4th best in the Big 10 East, but 10-2 and second place was a nice season to build upon for next year with our young QB and WRs. Our amazing TE is coming back and is 4/5 of the OL. Our new OC will have experienced weapons on day 1.
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Hef, what other bowls does your conference champs usually get invited to? Isn't the New Orleans bowl kinda traditional? I agree that you guys deserve a shot at a bigger named program with a better record than UAB. What would have pleased you more?
I just hate the two-tier division in the FBS. Too many bowls have tie-ins to make sure average or low-achieving teams from Power 5 schools get spots. High achieving schools from the Group of 5 schools get the leftovers. I just don't like it.
It's the same thing in the NCAA tournament. I would much rather see high win total teams from small conferences get rewarded with tourney bids than the 10th place team from the SEC (or whatever conference) - teams that, by definition, didn't actually achieve anything.
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NCAA tournament at least has an automatic bid for every conference. It's soooo much more fair and makes much more sense when you have things set up that way, it still leaves room for teams with impressive seasons but maybe falter in their conference tournament to still make it as well. I think the tourney is up to 68 teams now, it's really hard to argue #69 deserves to have a shot for the national championship, but in football, #5 gets left out often unfairly and maybe even up to #12 you can argue those teams are good enough to get a shot. It's so ridiculous that a handful of people determine it all. How does Div1AA football have this so much more correct? :lol
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what we learned from the final four games....
...there were only 3 teams worth being there.
OSU/Clemson was a great game. Can't believe both teams just drove down the field in seconds at the end and if not for the Buckeyes receiver cutting off his route both would have scored most likely.
Can't see LSU losing the championship game. Just hope its as good as the OSU/Clemson game.
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Yea that was a great game which followed a disaster of a playoff game. This does set up an awesome match up.
Happy for PSU to get 11 wins, 42 in 4 years, 3 NY6 games and 2-1 in those, and 1 big 10 championship. James Franklin has done an awesome job loading PSU up with talent to compete at the highest of levels, shaping up next year to be a good shot at making the playoffs. Most people expected PSU to be 9-3 at best. Also good news is the OC left and we hired the Minnesoate OC who has done a real nice job. I feel like that's a big upgrade for us. Defensive secondary needs to improve to be a playoff team though, that's the biggest concern but another year of growing and maybe we can make it not just to the top 10 but top 4.
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Unfortunately I was unable to watch due to work, but it seemed Cal finished strong today. Looking very forward to next year.
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I'm not necessarily picking Clemson to win it all, but I think that anyone who thinks that LSU beats them the way they beat Oklahoma is in for a surprise.
I expect a relatively close game (10 points or less).
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I do too, Clemson proved itself with that gutsy performance against OSU, they might not have been challenged much this year, but that team is good. Oklahoma was a fraud, this won't be the same.
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While the teams are on similar footings, I'm definitely giving an edge to LSU solely on how physical the Clemson-OSU game was. It seemed they were carting fuckers off the field every play.
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Tough seeing Wisconsin dominate Oregon yet turning the ball over 4 times costing them the game.
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Yea that sucked, the Big 10 overall looked mostly good against their competition (lol Michigan, love seeing them lose) but Wisconsin and Ohio State both blew games where they played better than the other team. That's how it plays out sometimes sadly.
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Ok game on, and it looks to be a doozy.
Got a text from my father pre-game... "Officiating crew is from the Pac 12, probably the closest will get to this damn thing..." My father is wise.
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:lol
I fell asleep once LSU maintained the double digit lead. Really impressive for Burrow. Was a pretty solid game to start, but these late starts after two weeks and on a Monday just makes it really hard to stay up and be interested, I almost forgot the game was even happening last night.
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Not to mention game running time was over four fucking hours with all the station breaks. :facepalm:
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I don't know anything about college football, but it looks as though my Steelers are going to have the unfortunate prospect of facing Burrow twice a year for many years to come.