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Title: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: zappafrank2112 on July 22, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
So I guess the 2nd leg will be SFaM for the 2nd half again.

What are the odds that they significantly change up the setlist for the 1st half of the show?  I'm not inclined to make the trip to Canton/Cleveland from Pittsburgh (really surprised they've skipped us on both legs now) if it's going to be much of the same.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2019, 10:49:55 AM
I hope so, but since it is the SFAM set, there may not be much or any difference.  Maybe they slip in some of the Euro songs like Peruvian Skies/Lie/As I am for something else.  I'm not really sure I see them dropping PBD which would make room for AWE, but I'm not sure I see it happening sadly. 
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: pg1067 on July 22, 2019, 11:04:23 AM
Given that the first set featured only six songs, there's not a lot of room for "significant" change.

Untethered Angel
A Nightmare to Remember
Fall Into the Light/Paralyzed
Barstool Warrior
In the Presence of Enemies, Part I
Pale Blue Dot

I would assume (and hope) that both ANTR and ITPOE get dropped, and I wouldn't be surprised if FITL/Paralyzed and either Warrior or Dot get dropped.  That would give them 35-40-ish minutes to add AWE and S2N and a couple non-DOT tracks.  Getting Peruvian Skies or Lie (or, god forbid, both) would be really disappointing for me.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 22, 2019, 11:13:57 AM
I say, change the encore.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: geeeemo on July 22, 2019, 11:37:20 AM
I say, change the encore.

Octavarium  :heart  :rollin
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 22, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
I say, change the encore.

Octavarium  :heart  :rollin

Please please please let this happen. I could die happy if I get to see that incredible song played live.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: goo-goo on July 22, 2019, 01:48:31 PM
No. Not Octavarium please.

Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: Chino on July 22, 2019, 01:57:20 PM
If they don't change it, I'm going to have to hard pass on this one.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 22, 2019, 02:55:40 PM
Swapping out for similar length songs....I'd be down for this Set List:

Untethered Angel
The Count of Tuscany
S2n
Barstool Warrior
Blind Faith
At Wits End
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: Architeuthis on July 22, 2019, 03:09:55 PM
They won't change it. Not enough time to rehearse and change the video production and light show to the click tracks.
That's what I don't like about modern concert production, a little too robotic... I'd love to see DT ditch the click and have some freedom to roam and change things up. 
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 22, 2019, 03:11:49 PM
They won't change it. Not enough time to rehearse and change the video production and light show to the click tracks.
That's what I don't like about modern concert production, a little too robotic... I'd love to see DT ditch the click and have some freedom to roam and change things up.

Well....maybe....unless they've planned both legs from the start. Maybe they already knew/know what the changes were and it's a simple add/subtract. I mean, that's what DT and their gang do for a living. Seems like it'd be something they could pull off.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: cramx3 on July 22, 2019, 03:16:03 PM
They won't change it. Not enough time to rehearse and change the video production and light show to the click tracks.
That's what I don't like about modern concert production, a little too robotic... I'd love to see DT ditch the click and have some freedom to roam and change things up.

Plenty of time and they changed the set between the US and Euro leg already, it's totally possible.  Doesn't mean it will happen though.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: bosk1 on July 22, 2019, 03:31:06 PM
The info I have from the band is:  The idea for this leg is to try to mostly hit markets the didn't hit the first time around so that those who didn't get to see this show can see it. 

Of course, it is not an exact science, and not everyone involved in booking tours intimately understands the geography of all markets, so there is going to be some overlap between the locations this time around.  But I would expect the sets to be structured similarly.  That's about all I am at liberty to say. 
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: Architeuthis on July 22, 2019, 04:08:19 PM
Lol, yeah to play California again, but not Washington or Oregon or B.C. which was missed on the first leg.   I still love DT, but they need to have a conversation with their management. 
 I actually put some money aside for tix as I thought for sure the Northwest would be on the list of dates when announced.  :\
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: bosk1 on July 22, 2019, 04:11:47 PM
I actually put some money aside for tix as I thought for sure the Northwest would be on the list of dates when announced.  :\

I would have thought so too.  Sorry man.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: Architeuthis on July 22, 2019, 04:16:35 PM
Thanks bosk,   I know I have been a little vocal about this today but I can't help it. lol
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: bosk1 on July 22, 2019, 04:19:16 PM
No, I completely understand.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: KevShmev on July 22, 2019, 05:34:34 PM
Even though I like the song and will enjoy if if is played, they could chuck A Nightmare to Remember, which would free up space for 2-3 songs depending on what they are. 

I say get rid of that, bring in At Wit's End and Peruvian Skies, and always play Fall into the Light instead of Paralyzed, and I'd be ecstatic.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: bosk1 on July 22, 2019, 05:40:26 PM
Realistic.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: KevShmev on July 22, 2019, 05:56:14 PM
I wanted to say also chuck Untethered Angel, which is a solid yet wholly unspectacular opener, but I know that would be unrealistic.  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: jjfumbly on July 22, 2019, 07:50:38 PM
WILL THEY DO MY GLASS PRISON STATIC ENCORE IDEA FOR THE SFAM SETLIST ALREADY???
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: gzarruk on July 22, 2019, 07:54:02 PM
Even though I like the song and will enjoy if if is played, they could chuck A Nightmare to Remember, which would free up space for 2-3 songs depending on what they are. 

I say get rid of that, bring in At Wit's End and Peruvian Skies, and always play Fall into the Light instead of Paralyzed, and I'd be ecstatic.

Yes to all of this.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: cramx3 on July 23, 2019, 08:31:38 AM
Even though I like the song and will enjoy if if is played, they could chuck A Nightmare to Remember, which would free up space for 2-3 songs depending on what they are. 

I say get rid of that, bring in At Wit's End and Peruvian Skies, and always play Fall into the Light instead of Paralyzed, and I'd be ecstatic.

I'm not sure I'd want Fall into the Light over Paralyzed.  I think I enjoyed FitL more on album release but Paralyzed is good live one.  I'm not sure.  I kind of like them rotating it, but I'm totally onboard with dropping ANTR and adding AWE and PS.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: jjfumbly on July 23, 2019, 09:35:11 AM
Does anyone think that they might play ItPoE Part 2 on this next leg? Maybe it would replace ANtR as they are quite similar in length.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: pg1067 on July 23, 2019, 09:49:33 AM
Does anyone think that they might play ItPoE Part 2 on this next leg? Maybe it would replace ANtR as they are quite similar in length.

I have no idea, but I certainly hope they don't do this.  It would be a big deterrent to me going to this leg.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: geeeemo on July 23, 2019, 10:05:07 AM
Does anyone think that they might play ItPoE Part 2 on this next leg? Maybe it would replace ANtR as they are quite similar in length.

I would like that.  I like Part 2 better....
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: geeeemo on July 23, 2019, 10:06:44 AM
Even though I like the song and will enjoy if if is played, they could chuck A Nightmare to Remember, which would free up space for 2-3 songs depending on what they are. 

I say get rid of that, bring in At Wit's End and Peruvian Skies, and always play Fall into the Light instead of Paralyzed, and I'd be ecstatic.

I'm not sure I'd want Fall into the Light over Paralyzed.  I think I enjoyed FitL more on album release but Paralyzed is good live one.  I'm not sure.  I kind of like them rotating it, but I'm totally onboard with dropping ANTR and adding AWE and PS.

I am good with this one for sure!  and ya Untethered Angel isn't my fave opener - I really miss the intro to it also..
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: Max Kuehnau on July 28, 2019, 07:47:07 AM
(wrong thread, post deleted by me, sorry, carry on)
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: geeeemo on July 28, 2019, 08:51:30 AM
Even though I like the song and will enjoy if if is played, they could chuck A Nightmare to Remember, which would free up space for 2-3 songs depending on what they are. 

I say get rid of that, bring in At Wit's End and Peruvian Skies, and always play Fall into the Light instead of Paralyzed, and I'd be ecstatic.

I'm not sure I'd want Fall into the Light over Paralyzed.  I think I enjoyed FitL more on album release but Paralyzed is good live one.  I'm not sure.  I kind of like them rotating it, but I'm totally onboard with dropping ANTR and adding AWE and PS.

I am good with this one for sure!  and ya Untethered Angel isn't my fave opener - I really miss the intro to it also..

Yes to all of this
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: El Barto on July 29, 2019, 11:58:26 AM
In this thread we learn that they'll never make everybody happy. For every "they should totally ditch Z and put in X" there's a "if they do that I'm not going!" The only reason they have to change a few songs out is to gain some repeat attendees. (The fans who didn't get to see them before will go no matter what the setlist is.) As to whether or not that's a concern for them is anybody's guess, but it certainly should be.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: kaos2900 on July 29, 2019, 01:58:13 PM
I would love for them to play all of Distance Over Time for set 1 and SFAM for set 2.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: EPIC Outro on July 29, 2019, 04:13:24 PM
The press release said 2 hours and 45 minutes, so I'm totally going with that for this hopeful projection:

Set 1:

Pale Blue Dot
Lost Not Forgotten
Peruvian Skies
Room 137
S2N
Only a Matter of Time
Out of Reach
At Wits End

Set 2:

Scenes From a Memory

Encore:

The Glass Prison
Fall into the Light
As I Am


Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: pg1067 on July 29, 2019, 04:42:26 PM
Ok, why not?

Set 1:

S2N
Wither
Room 137
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
Stream of Consciousness
Out of Reach
At Wits End
Surrender to Reason

Set 2:

Scenes From a Memory

Encore:

Only a Matter of Time
Beneath the Surface
Viper King
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: KevShmev on July 29, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
Does anyone think that they might play ItPoE Part 2 on this next leg? Maybe it would replace ANtR as they are quite similar in length.

Unless they add an instrumental, I think it stays.  The first five minutes of it being instrumental gives JLB's voice a breather, which I am sure explains its placement in the set. 
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 29, 2019, 06:21:57 PM
The press release said 2 hours and 45 minutes, so I'm totally going with that for this hopeful projection:
While they aren't clear on it, 2 hours and 45 minutes is gonna include the 15 minute or so intermission. Mark my words. That said, your setlist looks good, altho a bit too long for what they'll play.
 
 
Voices
I think you can scratch that one off the list. I doubt we'll ever see it, AD or TtT in the setlist ever again given the difficulty in singing those tracks.
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: EPIC Outro on July 29, 2019, 08:51:13 PM

Glad you liked my setlist, Setlist Scotty! I spend far too much time coming up with imaginary DT sets.  :)
Title: Re: Chances DT changes up the 1st set on the 2nd leg
Post by: The Curious Orange on July 30, 2019, 01:52:57 AM
1. They won't.
2. They should. ANTR is quite a slog to sit through live, and 2 or 3 shorter, punchier songs would make for a better setlist.