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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: MinistroRaven on July 18, 2019, 01:45:46 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSqVVswa420
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Yes finally!!!!
Honestly, that trailer made me excited!
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its official, Tom Cruise finally looks old.
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its official, Tom Cruise finally looks old.
No, that was Ed Harris, Tom Cruise looks exactly the same as he did 20+ years ago
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I was going to say that Cruise looks great while Ed Harris looks like he aged 20 years since I've seen him last. When did I see him last, anyway?
Here's to hoping this is an enjoyable flick!
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I was going to say that Cruise looks great while Ed Harris looks like he aged 20 years since I've seen him last. When did I see him last, anyway?
Here's to hoping this is an enjoyable flick!
Last thing I saw Ed Harris in was National Treasure: Book of Secrets.
I'll probably see this, but the original Top Gun doesn't hold any special place in my heart, so I won't go in with any big expectations.
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I loved it when it came out, though I cannot recall seeing since I was a kid. I do remember when we rented it my mom made my dad FF past the scene where Maverick and Charlie hooked up, despite upon review it being very PG.
My parents also had the album (on vinyl!) and I played it a ton. It has a great tune by Cheap Trick that is only in the film for about 2 seconds, the sappy Heaven In Your Eyes, and the cool instrumental at the end.
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Awesome! Not sure why it's not until 2020. Christmas 2019 would be fair. It's not like it's a VFX-heavy production or anything. I'm hoping for minimal CGI but for sure there will be some, just don't make the jets do stupid things.
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When I see a famous actor in a cockpit flying a jet, I just assume they film that in a realistic cockpit set with a green screen.
When I see Tom Cruise do it, I assume he learned how to fly a fighter jet and flew the damn thing.
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When I see a famous actor in a cockpit flying a jet, I just assume they film that in a realistic cockpit set with a green screen.
When I see Tom Cruise do it, I assume he learned how to fly a fighter jet and flew the damn thing.
He's bat shit crazy to do those things but he does stunts that other actors will never do. It places him in the pantheon of Action Film Actors.
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I guess Val Kilmer is not in this?
I guess Tom Skerritt returning as Viper was out of the question since he is really old now and it is doubtful his character would still be working at 86 (the actor's real age).
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When I see a famous actor in a cockpit flying a jet, I just assume they film that in a realistic cockpit set with a green screen.
When I see Tom Cruise do it, I assume he learned how to fly a fighter jet and flew the damn thing.
He's bat shit crazy to do those things but he does stunts that other actors will never do. It places him in the pantheon of Action Film Actors.
Yep. 100% him in the cockpit. Not sure if he was really flying it but he does all that stuff. What a job.
I heard Kilmer IS in it. I’m guessing they’re saving that footage for future trailers.
I’ll see this opening night.
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Speaking of Val Kilmer, while he didn't show up in this trailer, he DID briefly show up in Jay and Silent Bob Reboot trailer.
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Yes Kilmer is listed but as far as I saw he's the only returning characterl. Can understand why Viper and Jester and the rest aren't in it, we can't drag out everyone from the original. Though when that trailer started with the voiceover I was hoping it was the bald guy who told them they were going to fly cargo planes full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong.
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I was going to say that Cruise looks great while Ed Harris looks like he aged 20 years since I've seen him last. When did I see him last, anyway?
Here's to hoping this is an enjoyable flick!
Last thing I saw Ed Harris in was National Treasure: Book of Secrets.
I'll probably see this, but the original Top Gun doesn't hold any special place in my heart, so I won't go in with any big expectations.
You guys need to see Westworld.
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Top Gun: Maverick is a love letter to aviation (https://youtu.be/XM2wOZ4f5Ts)
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Regarding Val Kilmer, he was being treated for throat cancer I believe so I wasn't even sure he'd be in the movie in the first place. He looks and sounds so different and at this point, I just hope he's doing well let alone be in this movie.
Regarding Tom Cruise and stunts... well for the last mission impossible movie, the guy did all the car driving, helicopter flying, bike riding, sky diving and all the ground stunts. He took lessons for whatever he didn't already know, the guy is a machine.
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Question: what is everyone looking forward to more, a sweet new Kenny Loggins tune or the return of shirtless volleyball?
:P :P
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I guess Val Kilmer is not in this?
I guess Tom Skerritt returning as Viper was out of the question since he is really old now and it is doubtful his character would still be working at 86 (the actor's real age).
According to Wikipedia, Kilmer will be in it (and is the only other returning actor). If Skerritt were in it, it would have to be a thing where Maverick went and had a chat with the retired Admiral or something like that. He'd absolutely be retired.
Question: what is everyone looking forward to more, a sweet new Kenny Loggins tune or the return of shirtless volleyball?
:P :P
Now THIS is where we need a gender flip!
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When I see a famous actor in a cockpit flying a jet, I just assume they film that in a realistic cockpit set with a green screen.
When I see Tom Cruise do it, I assume he learned how to fly a fighter jet and flew the damn thing.
Yep. Say what you want about the guy and his weirdness but he's a damn good movie star. I'd love to be able to do what he does.
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Apparently all the flying shots are real in the trailer except the F-14 at the end. The opening scene is a Blue Angel pilot flying over China Lake. :omg:
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Apparently all the flying shots are real in the trailer except the F-14 at the end. The opening scene is a Blue Angel pilot flying over China Lake. :omg:
I wouldn't be surprised if Cruise actually got to fly one. He's already a pilot and would be committed enough to go through extra training. He could probably easily take off from a carrier (that one shot looking back) cuz it basically does it by itself, and then land at a nearby strip instead of back onto the carrier cuz that's balls-tough.
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Apparently all the flying shots are real in the trailer except the F-14 at the end. The opening scene is a Blue Angel pilot flying over China Lake. :omg:
I wouldn't be surprised if Cruise actually got to fly one. He's already a pilot and would be committed enough to go through extra training. He could probably easily take off from a carrier (that one shot looking back) cuz it basically does it by itself, and then land at a nearby strip instead of back onto the carrier cuz that's balls-tough.
Absolutely but I guess they could also use a two seater and disguise that as a one seater from the cockpit, you would still get authentic shots.
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New trailer this morning. I'll see it in theatres.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITKxoqEkLxQ
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CAN'T WAIT. That was awesome. I was 10 when the original came out. It spurred me, like many other kids, to become a fighter pilot. I did my best, but at the end of the day, some medical issues prevented it. But I've really enjoyed the times I've done flying lessons and been in control up there.
This is going to be amazing.
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I was going to say that Cruise looks great while Ed Harris looks like he aged 20 years since I've seen him last. When did I see him last, anyway?
Westworld!
(https://www.goldderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ed-harris-westworld-man-in-black.jpg?w=620&h=360&crop=1)
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I'm looking forward to this.
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When I see a famous actor in a cockpit flying a jet, I just assume they film that in a realistic cockpit set with a green screen.
When I see Tom Cruise do it, I assume he learned how to fly a fighter jet and flew the damn thing.
He's bat shit crazy to do those things but he does stunts that other actors will never do. It places him in the pantheon of Action Film Actors.
I don't know; I'm not a huge fan of Cruise. I always got a whiff of Pacino/Hoffman from him, and for me, that is a turnoff. That is, I watch him, and a little voice in my head is "I'm acting here, I'm ACTING here!". He's not effortless like an Ed Harris, or a Kevin Costner. I look back at Top Gun or Risky Business, and they have that element of cheese that I just can't really abide (for me, the "Old Time Rock 'n' Roll" scene in Risky Business is idiotic not iconic. I hate that shit.) I'm not really impressed with the stunt thing; it just kind of makes him into more of a dick to me (with two exceptions: the hanging off the side of the plane, and the altitude dive he did).
By the way, this article is old, but: "Cruise has been seen taking helicopter lessons in preparation for the highly-anticipated "Top Gun" sequel, "Top Gun: Maverick," currently scheduled for release on July 12, 2019."
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I loved it when it came out, though I cannot recall seeing since I was a kid. I do remember when we rented it my mom made my dad FF past the scene where Maverick and Charlie hooked up, despite upon review it being very PG.
My parents also had the album (on vinyl!) and I played it a ton. It has a great tune by Cheap Trick that is only in the film for about 2 seconds, the sappy Heaven In Your Eyes, and the cool instrumental at the end.
Cheap Trick: Mighty Wings
Loverboy: Heaven In Your Eyes
Steve Stevens (of Billy Idol fame) and Harold Faltemeyer: Top Gun Theme
Yep, dork.
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Still have that original vinyl. :lol
Feeling like I truly belong with the old fogies. :lol
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I don't know; I'm not a huge fan of Cruise. I always got a whiff of Pacino/Hoffman from him, and for me, that is a turnoff. That is, I watch him, and a little voice in my head is "I'm acting here, I'm ACTING here!". He's not effortless like an Ed Harris, or a Kevin Costner.
In fairness, I think that one reason that Ed Harris and Kevin Costner seem effortless is that they are usually just acting like Ed Harris and Kevin Costner. I like both guys (especially Harris), but a lot of his roles feel like the same character, just in a lot of different situations.
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I have a bit of a problem with seeing words like "acting" in the same sentence as "Kevin Costner."
On topic... just watched that clip. I never would have thought I'd type this.... but that trailer got me pumped to see this!
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Awesome!
I just wanna have some fun when I go see this one.
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I don't know; I'm not a huge fan of Cruise. I always got a whiff of Pacino/Hoffman from him, and for me, that is a turnoff. That is, I watch him, and a little voice in my head is "I'm acting here, I'm ACTING here!". He's not effortless like an Ed Harris, or a Kevin Costner.
In fairness, I think that one reason that Ed Harris and Kevin Costner seem effortless is that they are usually just acting like Ed Harris and Kevin Costner. I like both guys (especially Harris), but a lot of his roles feel like the same character, just in a lot of different situations.
That may be true, but that's not a bad thing, necessarily. I think it depends on why you're there; if you want to be sucked in to a compelling story, or if you want to watch "acting". It's kind of like music like that; are you looking to see Bruce or REM and see some good songs played well, or are you looking to see Yngwie blister a fretboard and kick 1,000 picks into the audience? I don't mind some "acting" - I'll always watch DeNiro, just in case, and Leo isn't bad. But I'm more interested in a performance like Harris as Gene Krantz or Costner as the guy in "Hidden Figures". Sure, some of it is cliche as far as the characters go, but it's compelling to me.
The Godfather is great to me, because only Brando was really overacting there. Duvall was compelling as the guy that was inner circle, but not really; you could see it in his face every scene (do I belong here?). James Caan - a notorious over actor - was compelling as the hot headed Sonny, but he was really just playing his idealized view of himself. Pacino wasn't yet in "I'm ACTING here!" mode as Michael, the sort of dark calm in the middle of the storm. John Cazale was perfect... on and on.
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I think he made the film just to fly the jet (his "love letter to aviation")... and I don't blame him one bit! I watched a couple of the YT vids about the behind the scenes flight action and he looks like he's having a blast! I'm stoked for it!
I'd pay to watch Ed Harris in a commercial... he's that good to me.
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I actually really like Tom Cruise.
And he's not a great actor in the way that Robert Deniro or Al Pacino are. I'd say he's more like an Errol Flynn or something. He's just super entertaining and has a lot of charisma.
That said, he has the MI movies that have become amazing versions of "WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING THIS TIME?!?"
I wouldn't want all of his other movies to do that too. This is starting to feel less like Top Gun and more like "HE'S FLYING A REAL JET?!?!"
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Yeah, was just about to post this clip. Worth watching. I'm even MORE excited for the movie now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz9lnIDdkMo
When I see a famous actor in a cockpit flying a jet, I just assume they film that in a realistic cockpit set with a green screen.
When I see Tom Cruise do it, I assume he learned how to fly a fighter jet and flew the damn thing.
So, you're spot on Adami.
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I can't recall a Tom Cruise movie I didn't like. Maybe 'Eye's Wide Shut' but at the time I watched it I was so Stoned I couldn't see straight. All of his movies have top dollar production behind them.....they typically have a great ensemble cast and are generally well written and entertaining. He's everything an action star should be....plus, the dude CAN act.
I'll see this movie opening night....probably with my group of buddies. We will look like massive tools all heading in and sitting together and it will be great.
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For the most part, you're right. But Mission Impossible II would like a word with you.
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For the most part, you're right. But Mission Impossible II would like a word with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi1LMIUOOAI
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Eyes Wide Shut was a poor movie.
Give me action star Tom Cruise every time.
Like Adami said, I bet Tom Cruise has jumped on a million couches just for a half hour TV interview.
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Eyes Wide Shut was a poor movie.
Indeed it was, but certainly not Cruise had nothing to do with that. He took that crappy movie and made it halfway watchable.
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Yes. Though, he is more appealing as an action star.
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I agree, but he has a versatility that can get lost in all the action movies he is in. I hope he continues to act well in to his "I am too old for this action shit" years because the talent is there.
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Though "The Mummy" didn't do as well as it should, he was vulnerable in that movie even as an action hero and I liked it.
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The best Tom Cruise movie was All The Right Moves.
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The best Tom Cruise movie was All The Right Moves.
You...you may be right.
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Stunned there is no mention of "Cocktail".
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Stunned that, now there has been.
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I've never watched Top Gun but I saw the trailer for this before Skywalker last night and it looked cool. I'm indifferent on Tom Cruise.
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I've never watched Top Gun
….millennials.... :facepalm:
:lol
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I've never watched Top Gun
….millennials.... :facepalm:
:lol
:lol I mean, the subject matter is far from what I would call 'my kind of movie' so :P
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Stunned there is no mention of "Cocktail".
I like Cocktail.
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Stunned there is no mention of "Cocktail".
I like Cocktail.
Me too. I mean, it base a young Elisabeth Shue, so there's that.
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I've never watched Top Gun
….millennials.... :facepalm:
:lol
:lol I mean, the subject matter is far from what I would call 'my kind of movie' so :P
You need to do yourself a favor and go watch Top Gun.
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Yep, a film centered around fighter pilots isn't normally my thing either, but it's so fun and well done that you can't help but enjoy it. The flying part is the least best part of the film anyway.
As for best Cruise movies, I think A Few Good Men is his best (great movie and a major classic), and aside from Top Gun, I also like Rainman a lot. Cocktail gets slagged a lot, but it's a fun late 80's flick.
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As for best Cruise movies, I think A Few Good Men is his best (great movie and a major classic),
Truth.
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A Few Good Men is a damn good movie. Infinitely quotable.
Hard to think of my favorite Cruise film, it might be that one, even though I don't think of that as a Cruise film really, the cast top to bottom is elite (well, Demi Moore is a bit grating, but Galloway was supposed to be that way. One of those times I can't tell if it is the actor annoying me, or the actor is doing such a good job portraying an annoying character).
Similiarly, I can't think of a Cruise performance I felt was subpar, or a Cruise film I didn't find at least somewhat enjoyable.
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Yep, a film centered around fighter pilots isn't normally my thing either, but it's so fun and well done that you can't help but enjoy it. The flying part is the least best part of the film anyway.
As for best Cruise movies, I think A Few Good Men is his best (great movie and a major classic), and aside from Top Gun, I also like Rainman a lot. Cocktail gets slagged a lot, but it's a fun late 80's flick.
I also put his performance in The Firm way up there near the top as well. And I really liked Far and Away as well (yeah, I guess '92-'93 is my favorite Tom Cruise era).
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Tom Cruise's finest acting performance was in Tropic Thunder.
I am not even joking.
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Tom Cruise's finest acting performance was in Tropic Thunder.
I am not even joking.
I think you mean Days of Thunder :biggrin:
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Tom Cruise's finest acting performance was in Tropic Thunder.
I am not even joking.
I think you mean Days of Thunder :biggrin:
I do not.
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Tom Cruise's finest acting performance was in Tropic Thunder.
I am not even joking.
I think you mean Days of Thunder :biggrin:
I do not.
:neverusethis:
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Tom Cruise's finest acting performance was in Tropic Thunder.
I am not even joking.
Agreed. Same could be said for Robert Downey Jr as well.
I’m not even joking.
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New trailer out
https://youtu.be/giXco2jaZ_4
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I really like Tom Cruise. I'm not watching the above trailer as I too will be at the cinema for this 'un.
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Stunned there is no mention of "Cocktail".
I like Cocktail.
Me too. I mean, it base a young Elisabeth Shue, so there's that.
Haha, a friend of mine from college (actually, he's a townie friend of a friend of mine from college) with zero irony thinks Cocktail is one of the greatest movies of all time for the simply reason of Elisabeth Shue.
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Stunned there is no mention of "Cocktail".
I like Cocktail.
Me too. I mean, it base a young Elisabeth Shue, so there's that.
Haha, a friend of mine from college (actually, he's a townie friend of a friend of mine from college) with zero irony thinks Cocktail is one of the greatest movies of all time for the simply reason of Elisabeth Shue.
He's got a point there.
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Ah Top Gun a 2 hour long gay porn music video about a sexual predator with daddy issues.
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I almost forgot this movie was a thing but now i'm kinda excited again.
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As much as I dislike Tom Cruise as a person, I'm kinda jacked to see this - maybe in IMAX.
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Stunned there is no mention of "Cocktail".
I like Cocktail.
Me too. I mean, it base a young Elisabeth Shue, so there's that.
Haha, a friend of mine from college (actually, he's a townie friend of a friend of mine from college) with zero irony thinks Cocktail is one of the greatest movies of all time for the simply reason of Elisabeth Shue.
He's got a point there.
No arguement here.
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Stunned there is no mention of "Cocktail".
I like Cocktail.
Me too. I mean, it base a young Elisabeth Shue, so there's that.
Haha, a friend of mine from college (actually, he's a townie friend of a friend of mine from college) with zero irony thinks Cocktail is one of the greatest movies of all time for the simply reason of Elisabeth Shue.
I didn't remember that she was ever in anything other than Karate Kid. I think there's a good reason why.
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Adventures in Babysitting was big as well. She was in that.
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Adventures in Babysitting was big as well. She was in that.
Fun movie!
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She was also in Cocktail, Back to the Future II & III, Soapdish (I love that movie) Leaving Las Vegas. ect...
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Average.
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Average.
Oh I agree but bosk1 said he can't remember her in anything. I bet he saw those movies.
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Most of them. But either the movies themselves, or her performance in them, or both, are so unmemorable that even after you mentioned them, I have no recollection of her being in them.
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She was good in Hamlet 2.
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Aside from most of the ones mentioned here and Hollow Man, I cannot recall seeing Elisabeth Shue in anything, but I think she had a pretty good career, good enough to where I remember there being some question as to if her asking price would be too high for her to appear on Cobra Kai. Most of the other principle living actors from the original Karate Kid films haven't done a lot of notable things, so they were all probably just happy to get a paycheck to play the same role they did decades ago, but Shue was a success and probably could have overshot what they were willing to pay.
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Elizabeth Shue is also one of the stars of the first season of the tv show The Boys and she is really great in it.
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2 & 1/2 Men & Melrose Place as well on TV.
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2 & 1/2 Men & Melrose Place as well on TV.
Elizabeth Shue? Not sure she was ever in those shows? Didn't really watch much of 2 & 1/2 men but can't remember her ever being on Melrose Place?
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Oops. Thinking Cortney Thorne Smith.
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She was also in Cocktail, Back to the Future II & III, Soapdish (I love that movie) Leaving Las Vegas. ect...
Back to the Future 1 Jennifer was hotter.
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Leaving Las Vegas
Pretty sure she was nominated for a Best Actress Oscar for that one.
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Cocktail derailed this thread?
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She was good in Hamlet 2.
At first I thought that was a joke (and a good one) about her acting and appearing in sequels, but there really is a "Hamlet 2".
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I saw the trailer; I don't know. It looks like it MIGHT not be bad, but there also seemed to be too much fan service. You got the token Goose reference, you had the picture of the (fat) Val Kilmer... and you had all the token quippy lines from Maverick as he flies his plane through Angelina Jolie's butt crack or something equally preposterous. And yet, it looks like it MIGHT not be bad...
Part of my problem is Tom Cruise is now one of those actors that I can't see on screen as anyone other than "TOM "I do my own stunts and Scientology paid for this face" CRUISE!" He's turning into Jack Nicholson in that way.
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She was good in Hamlet 2.
At first I thought that was a joke (and a good one) about her acting and appearing in sequels, but there really is a "Hamlet 2".
Indeed there is, and it's quite an amusing movie, IMO.
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I saw the trailer; I don't know. It looks like it MIGHT not be bad, but there also seemed to be too much fan service. You got the token Goose reference, you had the picture of the (fat) Val Kilmer... and you had all the token quippy lines from Maverick as he flies his plane through Angelina Jolie's butt crack or something equally preposterous. And yet, it looks like it MIGHT not be bad...
Part of my problem is Tom Cruise is now one of those actors that I can't see on screen as anyone other than "TOM "I do my own stunts and Scientology paid for this face" CRUISE!" He's turning into Jack Nicholson in that way.
Can It be any worse than the original?
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I saw the trailer; I don't know. It looks like it MIGHT not be bad, but there also seemed to be too much fan service. You got the token Goose reference, you had the picture of the (fat) Val Kilmer... and you had all the token quippy lines from Maverick as he flies his plane through Angelina Jolie's butt crack or something equally preposterous. And yet, it looks like it MIGHT not be bad...
Part of my problem is Tom Cruise is now one of those actors that I can't see on screen as anyone other than "TOM "I do my own stunts and Scientology paid for this face" CRUISE!" He's turning into Jack Nicholson in that way.
It's funny despite all the weird things i've heard about Cruise over the years that has never played over in the movies i've seen with him. In my mind he always deliver as an actor despite everything else, atleast to me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM389FbhlRQ
Decades ago Stanislavski developed Method Acting, to enable actors to better prepare for a role. Tom Cruise has his own ideas on how to prepare for a role.
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Just watched this. Brilliant entertainment. Loved it.
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Miles better than the original, this one actually has a plot. Could have done without the last 20 mins or so, the film gets extremely stupid after (without spoilers) the mission is complete (and the mission is basically Star Wars).
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Tom Cruise is just an amazing on-screen presence.
Exceeded expectations by a mile.
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I was honestly kind of overwhelmed by how good this movie is. There was actually a grandma sitting next to me who before the movie told me it was her third time seeing it. At first, I thought it was kind of funny, but after I totally got it. Tom Cruise is a shady dude but he's assembled a production team that is simply second to none. This film is both an adrenaline-pumping thrill ride and genuinely emotional at times. Just damn.
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Tom Cruise is just an amazing on-screen presence.
Dude is an odd duck for sure offscreen with the scientology stuff.....but I enjoy his movies more often than not. Really good actor.
Tom Cruise is a shady dude but he's assembled a production team that is simply second to none.
The majority of his movies spare no expense.
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The new Mission Impossible trailer is amazing.
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Tom Cruise is just an amazing on-screen presence.
Dude is an odd duck for sure offscreen with the scientology stuff.....but I enjoy his movies more often than not. Really good actor.
His acting in Rainman was incredible. DH stole the show but Cruise was amazing in that movie.
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The new Mission Impossible trailer is amazing.
Yeah, looks HUGE
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Fantastic movie. And I did not know Jennifer Connelly was in it, so when I saw her name scroll on the opening credits I was like :omg: Then when Penny showed up, I was :drool:
Legit, the lady in the theater a couple seats beside me was on the edge of her seat during the final dogfights.
Great movie, but I can't help but think in reality, an unmanned drone would've been perfect for that mission.
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Fantastic movie. And I did not know Jennifer Connelly was in it, so when I saw her name scroll on the opening credits I was like :omg: Then when Penny showed up, I was :drool:
Legit, the lady in the theater a couple seats beside me was on the edge of her seat during the final dogfights.
Great movie, but I can't help but think in reality, an unmanned drone would've been perfect for that mission.
HAHAHA.
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Then when Penny showed up, I was :drool:
Appariently she's mentioned in the first Top Gun as someone Maverick dated - which is interesting as Jennifer was 15 in 1986.......
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Jennifer Connelly was - and is - beautiful, but somewhere along the line she fell into that trap where she worked out so much she got... "hard". I don't mean "ripped" or "muscled", I mean her look became very angular. Madonna is another woman who fell into this (Demi Moore too). I get it, we want to be healthy, but if we're just talking aesthetics, it's not one of my favorite looks.
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I've never found her attractive until Maverick, personally, but she put in a great performance, I thought. Lots of depth and understandable hesitancy, along with strength and attitude.
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I've never found her attractive until Maverick, personally, but she put in a great performance, I thought. Lots of depth and understandable hesitancy, along with strength and attitude.
The Rocketeer.
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I've never found her attractive until Maverick, personally, but she put in a great performance, I thought. Lots of depth and understandable hesitancy, along with strength and attitude.
The Rocketeer.
Yeah. Fair enough. :lol
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Saw this last night with a friend. Surprisingly very good. I thought the romantic angle was thrown in just because they felt they needed one (it had little to zero impact on the main story, unlike the Charlie relationship in the original), and I think the last 15-20 minutes could have been a little better, but overall it was very good and highly enjoyable. The countless callbacks to the original, from lines to references to actual camera angles, were cracking me up. I thought the Bob character was silly, as it seems unlikely that someone that bumbling and seemingly clueless could be a RIO, but I thought the rest of the casting was good, and Goose's son having the same terrible mustache was LOL for sure. Well done overall.
Jennifer Connelly was - and is - beautiful, but somewhere along the line she fell into that trap where she worked out so much she got... "hard". I don't mean "ripped" or "muscled", I mean her look became very angular. Madonna is another woman who fell into this (Demi Moore too). I get it, we want to be healthy, but if we're just talking aesthetics, it's not one of my favorite looks.
Funny, as I thought this exact thing when seeing the film last night.
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Just got back from it. Pretty fun movie….well executed sequel. Perfect amount of nostalgia mixed with an earth version of the Death Star bombing run. Agree with Kev that the Romantic aspect of the movies could have been cut completely and it’d have taken nothing away from it but I get why they threw it in there. Thankfully it was a small, meaningless bit that they didn’t waste much time on.
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I may be alone in this regard, but I was talking to someone at work about this year and made the observation that the fact that I hadn't seen a new Tom Cruise film since Eyes Wide Shut (20 years ago?) made the aging of the Maverick character more impactful for me. For those who have seen him in the countless films he has done over the years, I am sure his aging wasn't (for lack of a better term) jarring, but since the last time I saw him in a film, he looked pretty young, to see him looking older really helped in making the character seem naturally older (rather than it being an actor I have seen a lot over the years playing a different role). Anyone else know what I mean?
Also, I joked that if you walk up to random people on the street and asked if you have seen both Top Gun films, how many of the first 100 who said yes to that would be able to answer the question, "What is Maverick's first and last name?", correctly? I'll bet the number isn't high, despite the fact that one of Charlie's last lines in the original is her telling him so long and then calling him by his full name (middle name notwithstanding).
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I may be alone in this regard, but I was talking to someone at work about this year and made the observation that the fact that I hadn't seen a new Tom Cruise film since Eyes Wide Shut (20 years ago?) made the aging of the Maverick character more impactful for me. For those who have seen him in the countless films he has done over the years, I am sure his aging wasn't (for lack of a better term) jarring, but since the last time I saw him in a film, he looked pretty young, to see him looking older really helped in making the character seem naturally older (rather than it being an actor I have seen a lot over the years playing a different role). Anyone else know what I mean?
Also, I joked that if you walk up to random people on the street and asked if you have seen both Top Gun films, how many of the first 100 who said yes to that would be able to answer the question, "What is Maverick's first and last name?", correctly? I'll bet the number isn't high, despite the fact that one of Charlie's last lines in the original is her telling him so long and then calling him by his full name (middle name notwithstanding).
I'm not a Top Gun madman, though my ex-wife was big fan (she was in the Air Force). I just read an article a couple days ago and it had Maverick's full name and I was like "huh, that's not what I expected!".
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I may be alone in this regard, but I was talking to someone at work about this year and made the observation that the fact that I hadn't seen a new Tom Cruise film since Eyes Wide Shut (20 years ago?) made the aging of the Maverick character more impactful for me. For those who have seen him in the countless films he has done over the years, I am sure his aging wasn't (for lack of a better term) jarring, but since the last time I saw him in a film, he looked pretty young, to see him looking older really helped in making the character seem naturally older (rather than it being an actor I have seen a lot over the years playing a different role). Anyone else know what I mean?
Also, I joked that if you walk up to random people on the street and asked if you have seen both Top Gun films, how many of the first 100 who said yes to that would be able to answer the question, "What is Maverick's first and last name?", correctly? I'll bet the number isn't high, despite the fact that one of Charlie's last lines in the original is her telling him so long and then calling him by his full name (middle name notwithstanding).
I could have answered first and last.....can't recall middle name?
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I don't think they ever said his middle name, did they?
I just meant full name as in just his first and last. I should have worded that better.
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I may be alone in this regard, but I was talking to someone at work about this year and made the observation that the fact that I hadn't seen a new Tom Cruise film since Eyes Wide Shut (20 years ago?) made the aging of the Maverick character more impactful for me. For those who have seen him in the countless films he has done over the years, I am sure his aging wasn't (for lack of a better term) jarring, but since the last time I saw him in a film, he looked pretty young, to see him looking older really helped in making the character seem naturally older (rather than it being an actor I have seen a lot over the years playing a different role). Anyone else know what I mean?
Also, I joked that if you walk up to random people on the street and asked if you have seen both Top Gun films, how many of the first 100 who said yes to that would be able to answer the question, "What is Maverick's first and last name?", correctly? I'll bet the number isn't high, despite the fact that one of Charlie's last lines in the original is her telling him so long and then calling him by his full name (middle name notwithstanding).
There are a multitude of screenshots out there from the original and the sequel side-by-side and I definitely get what you mean. Though I was amazed to find out Cruise is almost 60(!). He still looks great for his age.
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I will most likely never watch this movie, but I'm really glad one of these sequels seems to have finally delivered and didn't just try to milk a nostalgia cow.
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I will most likely never watch this movie, but I'm really glad one of these sequels seems to have finally delivered and didn't just try to milk a nostalgia cow.
It's certainly a sequel that doesn't feel forced and it's handled really well. Simple story, great action....some meaningful character moments between the characters that should have them....I was impressed at how much I enjoyed the movie.
Seeing it in the theater was great just because of the shots from the cockpit and the aerial fighting etc etc. That was really cool.
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There are a multitude of screenshots out there from the original and the sequel side-by-side and I definitely get what you mean. Though I was amazed to find out Cruise is almost 60(!). He still looks great for his age.
36 years since the original Top Gun, and it looks like he will be 60 next month. Yes, he has the advantages of personal trainers and cooks and whatnot to help keep him in good shape, but he is obviously a workout fiend. I will give him props for that, but he is still a Scientologist nutjob (which is redundant :lol).
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There are a multitude of screenshots out there from the original and the sequel side-by-side and I definitely get what you mean. Though I was amazed to find out Cruise is almost 60(!). He still looks great for his age.
36 years since the original Top Gun, and it looks like he will be 60 next month. Yes, he has the advantages of personal trainers and cooks and whatnot to help keep him in good shape, but he is obviously a workout fiend. I will give him props for that, but he is still a Scientologist nutjob (which is redundant :lol).
Not only that, but one can reasonably infer he's had a lot of high end plastic surgery, both to slightly refine his looks as a younger man and then to keep looking younger. Everything listed in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wC72o5A_Vo) seems pretty plausible to me just from looking at the comparison images.
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My wife and I saw the movie yesterday - I think it was our first time in a theater since 2014. We went to the closest theater, which was sold out for the next two showings, aside from seats in the very first row. Then we drove to a different town where there was NOBODY in the theater, and maybe 10 people came in after us. The concession prices blew me away before the movie even had a chance to. :lol
It's a very amazing movie and deserving of all of the success. Great story, great action sequences and it pulled on all of the right strings - it was hard to not tear up at times seeing Maverick, Iceman and shades of Goose in Rooster (along with the photos and clips from the first film).
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Just caught this movie last night and WOW, what a great flick! It's rare that sequels are as good as the originals, but this one delivers.
I figured it would fall short since they rushed to make the sequel so quickly.. 😁
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Just saw this today. Great movie. Everything felt right. It wasn't perfect, but anything that bothered me in real time was minor and didn't detract from my overall enjoyment.
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Saw it yesterday. It was just a big tribute towards the legacy of Top Gun, I mean the intro... :lol Honestly despite being a bit to over the top with the throwbacks it was still the absolute best direction to do a sequel for a cult movie like Top Gun.
The whole F-14 scene was kinda silly but again this was a proper fan service and I enjoyed every minute of it! :heart
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I really hate the idea of "fan service." If you want to provide a service to the fans, make a good damn movie. That being said, I think TG:M toed the line about as good as I could have hoped for. I thought it was going to be too heavy-handed at the beginning, but only during the bar singing scene was it a little too much for me.
I will disagree with you on one thing though, I think Top Gun is in no way a cult movie. That movie was a monster in the late 80s, both at the box office and the impact on the zeitgeist at the time. Making a sequel that is both worthy of the name and a solid movie in its own right to entertain the contemporary audience 35 year later is no easy feat. And they succeeded on both counts with flying colors.
I was also thinking about Cruise's introduction. It hit me at the time, then I forgot about it when the film started. But he just thanked me for coming to the movie. That wasn't necessary. He didn't need me there to put food on his table. But a cool gesture nonetheless. It couldn't have been tacky, especially considering who we are talking about. But it wasn't. It felt real, from a wacko in an industry that is anything but.
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I will disagree with you on one thing though, I think Top Gun is in no way a cult movie. That movie was a monster in the late 80s, both at the box office and the impact on the zeitgeist at the time. Making a sequel that is both worthy of the name and a solid movie in its own right to entertain the contemporary audience 35 year later is no easy feat. And they succeeded on both counts with flying colors.
Well maybe i'm using cult movie in the wrong context but my interpretation of it is pretty much what you just said above. Huge movie back in the day with a big legacy, that's no easy task to make a sequel of so I thought the direction they took was spot on as I said.
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#TopGunMaverick has become the #6 highest grossing film of all time at the domestic box office, passing ‘Avengers: Infinity War’.
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Just saw an ad for this on TV with this gem of a line tossed in: “one of the greatest movies ever made” :rollin :rollin :rollin When you reach for ridiculous hyperbole like that you REALLY make yourself look like a clown.
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My wife and kid really liked Maverick, so we watched Top Gun (1986) last weekend since the kid hadn't seen it. That was one of my favorite movies growing up, and thus one of my most watched. Had no desire to commit 2 hrs to watching it so found chores to do periodically (basically during the Charlie scenes and the volleyball game). Haven't seen it in 20+ years but still knew all the lines. Didn't feel as cheesy and dated as I thought it would have.
My FiL also watched with us. He flew in the Navy during the Vietnam War and had experience being on an aircraft carrier. He doesn't talk much about his time in the war, but it was great getting little insights from him.
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I saw Top Gun: Maverick in theaters three times, including once in IMAX. I was absolutely blown away. The main mission is, as many have pointed out, Star Wars on Earth. Some of the scenes are not achievable (you can't bail out at the speed and altitude Mav was flying at early on, and you certainly can't jump start a Tomcat and launch it with half a runway, to name just two things). But the...passion for the story was there from Cruise. That scene with Iceman was probably the best one in the film, and there were many great ones.
Excellent sequel and hopefully, closure to the entire story. While the fanboy in me loved what they did and could easily see a third film, I think they should call it a day. The one-two punch of Top Gun and Top Gun: Maverick really should end it all. Would I WOULD be interested in, however, are some books that can bridge the gap in the timeline and talk about some of the incidents that Maverick went through leading him into Top Gun: Maverick.
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Top Gun: Maverick was indeed the right movie at the right time.
I've read that when you are in a room with Tom Cruise, he makes you feel like the most important person in the world. Well I felt like he delivered the cinematic equivalent to me for those two hours I was in the theater for this.
You are also correct that these two movies tell the story of Maverick fully and sufficiently. I am glad Disney is not in charge of this franchise otherwise we'd get inundated with films like Top Gun: The Dropouts, and H_NGM_N: A Top Gun Story.