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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on July 04, 2019, 07:07:34 AM
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Since bosk1 is doing the 80's, I thought I would do the 70's; I had been thinking about doing something like this for a while now anyway.
As always, please let me do the featuring, and if you have any suggestions, feel free to PM me. Given what a monster decade it was for rock, that genre will be heavily featured, but I will try and touch on other genres as well when possible.
As Andy Patridge once sang, let's begin! :tup :tup
Albums featured thus far:
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2564440#msg2564440
The Who - Who's Next: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2564798#msg2564798
Lynyrd Skynyrd - (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd): https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2564944#msg2564944
Billy Joel - The Stranger https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2565471#msg2565471
Jethro Tull - Aqualung https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2565737#msg2565737
Meat Loaf - Bat out of Hell https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2566385#msg2566385
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Damn the Torpedoes https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2566581#msg2566581
Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2566987#msg2566987
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2567280#msg2567280
Saturday Night Fever (Soundtrack) https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2567603#msg2567603
King Crimson - Larks Tongues in Aspic https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2568323#msg2568323
Kansas - Leftoverture https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2568813#msg2568813
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2569516#msg2569516
Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2570133#msg2570133
The Doobie Brothers - The Captain and Me https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2570386#msg2570386
Black Sabbath - Paranoid https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2570989#msg2570989
Queen - A Night at the Opera https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2571831#msg2571831
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2572006#msg2572006
Jeff Beck - Blow by Blow https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2572733#msg2572733
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2573892#msg2573892
Yes - Fragile https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2574573#msg2574573
Rush - Hemispheres https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2575284#msg2575284
Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2576162#msg2576162
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2576489#msg2576489
Van Halen - Van Halen https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2577250#msg2577250
Deep Purple - Machine Head https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2577751#msg2577751
ABBA - Arrival https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2578347#msg2578347
Supertramp - Crime of the Century https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2578781#msg2578781
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Deja Vu https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2579510#msg2579510
Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2580043#msg2580043
Boston - Boston https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2580684#msg2580684
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2580991#msg2580991
The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54052.msg2581438#msg2581438
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Led_Zeppelin_-_Led_Zeppelin_IV.jpg)
This is one of those albums I feel like I take for granted because six of the eight songs were, and probably still are, played to death on classic rock radio, but there is no denying the greatness of this record. Heck, just the presence alone of Stairway to Heaven and Black Dog, which could easily be argued are their two most iconic songs, would be made it worthy, but then you have Rock and Roll, and Going to Calfornia, and When the Levee Breaks, and the list goes on. This is not my favorite LZ record - heck, it is not even a top 3 LZ album for me - but it is certainly one of the most classic records of not just 70's rock, but of the entire rock era.
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This is my favorite LZ record and one of the alltime great iconic records.
Every song here is stellar and special and there's a great variety of styles and genres. Black Dog :metal Stairway To Heaven :metal Battle Of Evermore :metal When The Levee Breaks :metal
Everyone says that the songs are overplayed, and they are probably right. But I have almost stopped listening to radio some decades ago and back then when I was listening, german radio didn't really play much LZ. So for me none of these songs are overplayed in the sense that I don't want to hear them anymore. In fact I spin that record regularly and it still sounds amazing to me.
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Not much to add. A perfect album and one of the best in rock history.
My favorites are When the Levee Breaks and The Battle of Evermore.
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Probably my #1 "Retired Favorites" album (either this or Dark Side of the Moon). Loved this in my classic rock phase, played it as much as any other album, still consider it one of the best rock albums ever, haven't felt any desire to listen to it for the past 15+ years.
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I've written extensively (top 50 albums and discography thread for starters) about this album, so I'll summarize.
It contains the single most influential song in shaping my musical life (Black Dog)
It contains my personal #3 favorite song of all time (Battle of Evermore)
It is my #3 GOAT album
I tattoo'd the 4 symbols on my right shoulder at the age of 18
Zeppelin is the 'Brett Hart' of bands for me - best there is, best there was, best there ever will be.
It's flawless, and I will never tire of any song from this album. Great choice to launch this thread :tup
P.S. It's one of the reasons that 1971 (my birth year) is the greatest year of music ever. :P to Kev and 1976!
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'71 was a great year, but I can't say it was better than '76. But it is pretty darn close. :coolio
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'71 was a great year, but I can't say it was better than '76. But it is pretty darn close. :coolio
On the bold, we agree. On the better year, we will agree to disagree.
Prediction: 1976 album for the next album
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Zeppelin is the 'Brett Hart' of bands for me - best there is, best there was, best there ever will be.
How the hell did a Canadian screw up Bret Hart's name?
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Zeppelin is the 'Brett Hart' of bands for me - best there is, best there was, best there ever will be.
How the hell did a Canadian screw up Bret Hart's name?
:lolpalm: autopilot typing I guess. I almost typed "Heart". :lol
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Prediction: 1976 album for the next album
I like being in control of making your prediction incorrect. :biggrin:
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Half filler half killer
Seriously though, having grown up on Classic Rock Radio, and living with Zep fanatics in college, I feel like I honestly don't ever have to listen to them again.
I mean, this is a solid album to be sure. Stairway To Heaven is a masterpiece, and I LOVE When the Levee Breaks.
Rock n Roll is all kinds of awesome, but truth be told, I've always been hot and cold on Black Dog. I've never thought it to be all that great.
Misty Mountain Hop is filler all the way, and Gong To California is cool enough. But Battle Of Evermore and Four Sticks have always been skip worthy. And Fuck the self fellating Heart version of Evermore too!
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Oh, I can't wait until Alice Cooper or Schenker something comes up. :lol
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Leave it to Tim to shit a little on an album almost everyone else would agree is a stone cold classic. :lol :lol
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Oh, I can't wait until Alice Cooper or Schenker something comes up. :lol
Kev has no idea who either of them are anyway.
Seriously though, I like Led Zeppelin well enough. I don't NOT like them. I have no problem with anyone calling this a great album. It is a great album. But I've always found it, on the whole, a bit choppy. I mean, to me, the first album that I think is the most consistent is Houses Of The Holy, and hell, even that has The Crunge. :lol
Leave it to Tim to shit a little on an album almost everyone else would agree is a stone cold classic. :lol :lol
I know. I don't mean to do it. But this is a discussion thread, right? I might have held back if it was an appreciation thread.
It's just I think a couple of songs really lift this album. I don't know.
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I know who those guys are, ya clown. :lol :lol
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And Fuck the self fellating Heart version of Evermore too!
No way dude, that is one of my favorite classic rock covers ever!
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And Fuck the self fellating Heart version of Evermore too!
No way dude, that is one of my favorite classic rock covers ever!
Absolutely all of this. Heart is the only band that did LZ covers any justice (wait....I take that back....the Great White live tribute album was pretty amazing). And Ann Wilson could sing the phone book and still sound amazing. Her cover of Stairway brought Robert Plant to tears.
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And Fuck the self fellating Heart version of Evermore too!
No way dude, that is one of my favorite classic rock covers ever!
Cool, Chris. (see what I did there?)
And Fuck the self fellating Heart version of Evermore too!
No way dude, that is one of my favorite classic rock covers ever!
Absolutely all of this. Heart is the only band that did LZ covers any justice (wait....I take that back....the Great White live tribute album was pretty amazing). And Ann Wilson could sing the phone book and still sound amazing. Her cover of Stairway brought Robert Plant to tears.
Oh great, Washington state has reported. :lol
I know who those guys are, ya clown. :lol :lol
I would never expect a UFO album in this thread. I mean, they just weren't popular enough.
I will say that the original Alice Cooper Band is the most underrated American rock band going. I know they're in the RnRHOF, but folks get in with just one of two big hits.
Their deep cuts are ahead of their time. Seriously.
And I'm just being a dick. I mean LZ4 gave us rock music's greatest song and a collection of memorable tunes. I just couldn't pile on the accolades without pointing out my issues with it.
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Me: Soft serve vanilla/chocolate twist is a classic.
Tim: Meh, Half filler.
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Damn straight. Should be all chocolate! :lol
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:lol
CALLED IT!
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And Fuck the self fellating Heart version of Evermore too!
No way dude, that is one of my favorite classic rock covers ever!
Absolutely all of this. Heart is the only band that did LZ covers any justice (wait....I take that back....the Great White live tribute album was pretty amazing). And Ann Wilson could sing the phone book and still sound amazing. Her cover of Stairway brought Robert Plant to tears.
Oh great, Washington state has reported. :lol
Ok....I genuinely :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin 'ed
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Oh great, Washington state has reported. :lol
Ok....I genuinely :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin 'ed
I did too! Funnily enough, though, JD and I seem to disagree about music more than we agree.
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...and nobody agrees with Tim. :lol
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...and nobody agrees with Tim. :lol
He and I agree on Genesis (that they suck monkey balls)
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1 for 100. That's a low battering average.
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1 for 100. That's a low battering average.
WTF is a battering average? :lol
Defense Attorneys listen up!
"Your honor, my client has a low Battering Average"
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1 for 100. That's a low battering average.
WTF is a battering average? :lol
Defense Attorneys listen up!
"Your honor, my client has a low Battering Average"
:lol Oops. Though that sounds like a Death Race 2000 kind of stat. LOL
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Yeah! Except I have no idea what Death Race 2000 is! :lol
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:facepalm: :lol
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Leave it to Tim to shit a little on an album almost everyone else would agree is a stone cold classic. :lol :lol
I know. I don't mean to do it. But this is a discussion thread, right? I might have held back if it was an appreciation thread.
I think that's okay, everyone's entitled to their own opinion ...
... as long as they know they're wrong. ;)
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I remember this album being referred to as the greatest album of all time in a certain movie. So I went out and bought it. I was underwhelmed. I recognized a handful of songs from radio, but...the album as a whole just never did anything for me. Much respect to those who love it. But I am definitely not in that category.
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It was an album I heard every song on the radio. It is a classic that I don't reach for much anymore. I overplayed it in my youth.
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This album almost made it onto my top 50 albums list but it (along with a few others) felt too... predictable. But safe to say it's one of the greatest rock albums ever made. ZoSo RULES.
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Zeppelin is the 'Brett Hart' of bands for me - best there is, best there was, best there ever will be.
How the hell did a Canadian screw up Bret Hart's name?
And why does "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (also a Canad) keep showing up as "Bret Hart" on my screen?
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And Fuck the self fellating Heart version of Evermore too!
No way dude, that is one of my favorite classic rock covers ever!
Absolutely all of this. Heart is the only band that did LZ covers any justice (wait....I take that back....the Great White live tribute album was pretty amazing). And Ann Wilson could sing the phone book and still sound amazing. Her cover of Stairway brought Robert Plant to tears.
And the live version of "Achilles Last Stand" by Temple Of The Dog. Matt Cameron got that whole fluidity of time thing that Bonham and Page had (and that virtually every band covering Zeppelin fucks up). I saw that at MSG and it gave me chills, moreso when Chris Cornell finished the song and said "I can't fucking believe we're playing a Led Zeppelin song... in THIS building." or something like that (Zeppelin played more shows at MSG than any other building in the U.S. The LA Forum is close, but I think MSG gets the nod).
I had a roommate in college - we called him "Metal Craig" - who was both broke as shit and the biggest Zeppelin fan I ever met. All he had was a received and two speakers for a stereo, but when he wanted to drink he would bet us that he couldn't find a Zeppelin song somewhere on the dial, and far more often than not he won. I prefer Physical Graffiti, but there's no denying the legend of this album. From the playing, to the recording, to the release (no name, no title, no reference to the band, no single... and it still sold a Brazilian copies), it's the real deal. And I'm sorry, but in 1971 Jimmy Page found a way to make music SOUND good, and almost 50 years later we have bands that still can't figure it out.
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The Who - Who's Next
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Whosnext.jpg)
Similar to Zeppelin IV, this is an obvious classic loaded with classic rock staples. Hearing Baba O'Riley for the first time in a buddy's car back in 1990 was like a religious experience; I had never heard anything that awesome before. Of course this was pre-internet, and because my buddy only knew it as "Teenage Wasteland," it took me weeks to find out the name of the song. :lol Other favorites for me from this album are My Wife (something about that song I really like), The Song Is Over and Behind Blue Eyes. I have never gone nuts for Won't Get Fooled Again like many do, but it is a solid tune nonetheless. My only beef with this album is the sound of Keith Moon's drums; they are so far back in the mix that it sounds like his nuts were cut off. While their earlier album sounded more raw and less polished, his drums sounded awesome; you could always hear the power and fury in nearly every hit. Who's Next was a big leap in overall sound and production, but the drawback was the emasculation of Moon's recorded sound, which they fortunately fixed quickly (the drums sound powerful again on Quadrophenia two years later). Anyway, discuss this classic Who record. :coolio
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what could have been Lifehouse...
Zeppelin IV: I still love Stairway (always have, and always will), but radio killed my desire to hear Black Dog and Rock N Roll ever again. Even to an extent Misty Mountain Hop, a tune I loved when I got into them in HS.
The gems beyond Stairway are Four Sticks and Battle of Evermore (Sandy Denny RIP).
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hhhmmmm another from 1971. :biggrin:
My first exposure to this was in 1987 I think. Local radio station did a Top 500 albums of all time long weekend thing, and iirc, this was #4 or 5 (behind Sgt Pepper's, Zoso, Dark Side and maybe Hotel California). Of course, The Who were part of the 'big 4' (or five depending on the inclusion of Floyd), but usually considered 4th in that 4-horse race.
Clearly their biggest commercial album. I was mostly a 'greatest hit's fan of theirs until my adulthood, and I dug a little deeper into their discog - at which point they weren't as impactful to me as they could've been had I dug deeper in my teenage years. This one is a gem start-to-finish. Of the lesser (after the 'big 3') tracks, Bargain and Behind Blue Eyes are my faves.
I can't tell you how many times I watched this live video for Won't Get Fooled Again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODKZGBrAtxY). That last scream with Townsend flying/sliding across the stage after the smoke/light show and Moon going nuts on the skins... absolutely magnificent.
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hhhmmmm another from 1971. :biggrin:
:tup :tup
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Part of a 3 album run that is top 5 in my books. Bands at their peak and they were on fire with Who's Next.
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Clearly their biggest commercial album. I was mostly a 'greatest hit's fan of theirs until my adulthood, and I dug a little deeper into their discog - at which point they weren't as impactful to me as they could've been had I dug deeper in my teenage years. This one is a gem start-to-finish. Of the lesser (after the 'big 3') tracks, Bargain and Behind Blue Eyes are my faves.
This is me; I loved the hits, but it took this record to get me into the deeper cuts. The well known stuff is just so powerful, but the deeper tracks - "Love Ain't For Keeping", "Getting In Tune", "The Song Is Over", and from the expanded version, "Pure And Easy" and "Too Much Of Anything" are almost beautiful.
That may be one of a very few "perfect" albums.
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The really passionate fans of The Who that I knew are long gone. I'm not old enough to remember the release of this album but it was on frequent rotation at my dads house back in the old days. I don't think I've listened to this in full since 1979 but I think it's a better one for Entwhistle bass playing ( not so much on the piano tune if I'm remembering the right album ).
Mr. Big does an awesome cover of Baba O. , Billy Sheehan would have been my choice to fill in for The Ox for the semi - recent Who tours.
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Another classic record, without question, my favorites are the better known songs like Baba O'Riley, Behind Blue Eyes, Won't Get Fooled Again and so on.
I haven't played that record in a long time so I will just do that now.
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When pressed for my "Favorite album of all time!!!" I usually go with The Wall, because, well, it could very well be, but it is also a landmark in my musical development and journey. Though if broken down to the core of my "favorite album" this very well could be it.
Of the lesser (after the 'big 3') tracks, Bargain and Behind Blue Eyes are my faves.
Behind Blue Eyes is a "lesser" track? What are you considering the "Big 3?" I always thought Behind Blue Eyes was considered #3 on this album, behind Baba and Won't Get Food Again.
...from the expanded version, "Pure And Easy" and "Too Much Of Anything" are almost beautiful.
Yes!!!
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This is the only Who album I have ever bought in my life.
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Sleeper favorite on Who's Next is Entwistle's song, "My Wife." Rocks hard, and the lyrics are funny without being over the top.
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Lynyrd Skynyrd - (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b0/Lynyrdskynyrd.jpg)
A damn fine debut record, one that often gets overlooked when talking about the all-time great debut records. Most attention always goes to Free Bird, a great tune and a major classic for sure, but the whole album is quite good. Simple Man and Gimme Three Steps are longtime classic rock radio favorites as well, and my favorite from the record is Tuesday's Gone, which is probably my favorite Lynyrd Skynyrd song. I tend to re-visit songs from this album, rather than giving the whole albums regular spins, but there is no debating what a good debut record this was.
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It's a good debut. I'm in the "Tuesday's Gone" and "Simple Man" camp; I liked Skynyrd best when there was a little dark, a little edge to the music. But the second album was better, and one I go back to more.
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Pretty impressive for a debut album. Actually pretty impressive for any album in a band's discography. Simple Man is golden, definitely an overlooked gem behind their more well-known and oft-played classics.
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Yeah, great debut. Tuesday's Gone might be one of their best songs. Free Bird is the classic southern rock song, and it's good but maybe a little too long. Simple Man, Gimme Three Steps, I Ain't The One are all great too and the deeper cuts are not far behind.
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Poison Whiskey is my favorite from this album. I had to look up the track listing to be honest , another one that is not in regular rotation for quite awhile.
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I grew up in South Nashville and loved the southern rock music. Concerning the later skynyrd, check our Last of a Dyin’ Breed. Tuesday’s Gone is my favorite from the pronounced album.
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You know, part of the problem I am going to have with this thread is that, when I was coming of age musically in the '80s, I just didn't like "'70s music." It just sounded so dated and "inferior" to me at the time. That's more my own issue than a problem with any of the bands of that era per se. But that mindset colored my perception of anything from the '60s and '70s for a long time. And I nevered own much from that era as a result.
Because a lot of bands I have liked have covered a lot of '60s and '70s songs, and because I have just been exposed to a lot more, I have opened up quite a bit to the music of that time. But still, the production and overall sound can still sometimes be a barrier.
Taking this and going back to Zep, they are one of the bands that epitomized what I didn't like about the sound of that time. For some reason, their sound still grates on me to this day. And I just don't like the timbre of Plant's voice. Never have. Didn't like his '80s solo output either. But that said, I find that I quite often enjoy Zep covers where the sound is slightly modernized and the singer doesn't try to sound too much like Plant. Through that, I have come to appreciate the songwriting, even if I don't care for their albums.
The Who are a different story. I initially avoided them just because of the era when they were big, and that same type of sound. But through constant exposure to their hits, I have come to like quite a few of their songs. I don't know many of the deep cuts, and I don't own an album, and never have. But I like many of the songs I have heard, including many from the album in this thread.
Ditto for Skynyrd. And they had an extra strike against them in that I also didn't really care for "Southern rock" at all either. But I have come to appreciate some of their music through time as well. Gimme Three steps is fun, and A Simple Man is fantastic. I still don't care much for Freebird, but whatever. I don't exactly hate it either. I can't really speak to the rest of the album because I don't know that I've heard any of the other songs.
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Freebird freaking rules.
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Before I got into Rush and more progressive rock, The Who were my favorite band. I think my Mom broke and threw away not one, but two copies of Who's next because she would not "have that filth in her house"! I can just imagine her looking at the album cover and taking a minute to realize they just got done pissing on the rock thing. Seems pretty tame now, but that was like 73 or 74.
Love ya Ma!!
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This is the kind of stuff I can’t get into, I hate redneck rock.
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Good music comes in many shapes and sizes, even in the form of southern rock.
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This is the kind of stuff I can’t get into, I hate redneck rock.
Serious question: Are Lynyrd Skynyrd members rednecks?
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What even categorizes "Southern Rock?" Just that the members are from the American south?
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What even categorizes "Southern Rock?" Just that the members are from the American south?
It’s really simple. If you can picture Bo and Luke Duke cranking it all the way in the General Lee, it’s southern rock.
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If the album you are listening to contains a song entitled "Sweet Home Alabama" . . .
. . . you might be listening to Southern Rock.
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Thank you for making me feel old for remembering watching that show.
*starts humming the theme song
:getoffmylawn:
I hate how everyone who doesn't know a thing about (Southern) rock loves this song. And I am not gatekeeping, I hate it myself. Though I do enjoy hearing the intro riff when Lee Corso picks Bama as his Gameday pick as he puts on the headgear.
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What even categorizes "Southern Rock?" Just that the members are from the American south?
It’s really simple. If you can picture Bo and Luke Duke cranking it all the way in the General Lee, it’s southern rock.
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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What even categorizes "Southern Rock?" Just that the members are from the American south?
I've never heard it referred to as having to be from the South, although I think that criterion is met by most of the Southern rock bands out there. But it was more the sound. Back in the '70s and '80s, you had certain bands that incorporated '70s and '80s country and western with '70s and '80s rock. Think Skynyrd, the Allman Bros., Marshall Tucker, and the like. I just never liked that sound back then. Even now, I don't particularly care for it, although I have come to appreciate Skynyrd to a degree.
EDIT: Just looked at the wikipedia article, and not surprisingly, it lists those three bands first. :lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_rock
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I just could never really get into Lynyrd Skynyrd. I like my music a bit heavier. I actually preferred Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot because they were a bit heavier.
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I don't own any Skynyrd albums besides a best of CD but + many love to Simple Man. Maybe my favorite track of theirs, Tuesday's Gone is another good one.
I saw them open for Sammy Hagar in 2003 and I was floored by how awesome they were live, I had only known a few songs of theirs then. I saw them last summer for the second time on their farewell tour and they still sounded so good live. I know it's so many different members now but they still have it IMO, the music stands the test of time.
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Billy Joel - The Stranger
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/Thestranger1977.jpg)
I always love me some Billy Joel, and this is his most classic and best album. Six of the nine songs are among his most well-known songs ever, and he has a lot of well-known songs, and the deep cuts are really good as well.
Scenes from an Italian Restaurant is Joel at his most epic story-telling, the title track is a melodic wonderland, and rockers like Only the Good Die Young and Movin' Out are always toe-tapping fun. It's hard to believe that all of these songs are now 42 years old. :eek :eek
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Never heard it.
Seriously.
Whatever radio hits from it though, I'm sure I know.
I had Glass Houses on 8 track as part of a Columbia House haul when I was a kid.
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I have never owned this album, but just scanning the track list, I know a good half of the songs (and may very well know others if I heard them). All of his work is pretty stellar. He's just an all-around good musician, writer, and lyricist. I may touch on his discography in the '80s thread.
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Never heard it.
Seriously.
Whatever radio hits from it though, I'm sure I know.
I had Glass Houses on 8 track as part of a Columbia House haul when I was a kid.
Dude, half of the album is on every greatest hits packages they've made of him.
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Tim was too busy listening to mediocre Thin Lizzy albums to worry about listening to a legend like Billy Joel.
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Dude, half of the album is on every greatest hits packages they've made of him.
Like I said, I bet I'd recognize half the album easy. But I have never bought a Billy Joel Great Hits package either.
Tim was too busy listening to mediocre Thin Lizzy albums to worry about listening to a legend like Billy Joel.
Stay on topic. :P
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You couldn't escape Billy Joel in the 70's.
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Stay on topic. :P
Your bizarre opinions are the subtopic of every music thread in which you post. :P ;)
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Tim is the Fish of Barney Miller.
70's bros. 70's.
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You couldn't escape Billy Joel in the 70's.
I know it was Billy Joel , Rod Stewart , and Eric Clapton. That was Rock Radio in the later 1970's.
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Tim is the Fish of Barney Miller.
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:rollin
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:lol
Back at you Mr. Time Capsule.
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Never heard it.
Seriously.
Whatever radio hits from it though, I'm sure I know.
Same. Wiki'ed it, turns out I do know 4 of the songs by title.
What's with the creepy artwork??
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I always liked Billy Joel, saw him live once and he was great :metal.
But I don't own a lot of his records, like this one. I know the hits of course and they are great and I always think I should go deeper into his discography and for some reason I never do.
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Great album by Billy Joel. Never got to see him in concert. Is he the artist that got really screwed financially by his management?
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Going back to my attitude toward Skynyrd and my general attitude toward the '70s in general, again, despite just having a total mental barrier toward all of that, I have taken strides toward opening up to it. This last week for 4th of July, a friend of mine was asked whether he could put together a band to play a few hours of music for a 4th of July block party. So, naturally, he called me to see if I was interested in putting together a set list and singing some songs. Here's what I put together (and you will see that the '70s are pretty well represented):
Set 1:
-Back in the USSR (Beatles)
-Enter Sandman (Metallica)
-Dear Mr. Fantasy (Traffic)
-Everybody Wants To Rule the World (Tears for Fears)
-Just What I Needed (the Cars)
-Paranoid (Sabbath)
-Smoke on the Water (Deep Purple)
Set 2:
-Sweet Home Alabama (Skynyrd)
-Little Dreamer (Van Halen)
-Living on a Prayer (Bon Jovi)
-Comfortably Numb (Floyd)
-Learn To Fly (Foo Fighters)
-Purple Haze (Hendrix)
-Short Skirt, Long Jacket (Cake)
-Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin (Journey)
Set 3:
-Sharp Dressed Man (ZZ Top)
-Gimme Three Steps (Skynyrd)
-China Grove (Doobies)
-Looking for Love (King's X)
-Wanted Dead or Alive (Bon Jovi)
-White Wedding (Billy Idol)
-Hazy Shade of Winter (the Bangles)
(there was also a set worth of other material I did not choose that I either didn't sing on or sang harmony/backups)
So, yeah. Lots of '80s in there for sure. But the '70s definitely got a fair shake.
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I don't recognize the Cake song by title.
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I wasn't aware of it until a few years ago when a couple of the guys said they wanted to play it. It's a fun little tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aDstrDMf0
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I wasn't aware of it until a few years ago when a couple of the guys said they wanted to play it. It's a fun little tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aDstrDMf0
Oh - that's the theme song from the TV show Chuck!
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Never heard it.
Seriously.
Whatever radio hits from it though, I'm sure I know.
I had Glass Houses on 8 track as part of a Columbia House haul when I was a kid.
I own a BJ greatest hits album, but I only listen to a few songs.
Looking at the track-list for this album, I only recognize one song by name (Just the Way You Are). May have heard others but don't recognize them by name.
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Tim is the Fish of Barney Miller.
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Word up, Abe!
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Tim is the Fish of Barney Miller.
:lol but I think you meant he is the Fish of dtf.org. Can I be Wojo?
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:lol
Sure!
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Tim is the Fish of Barney Miller.
:lol but I think you meant he is the Fish of dtf.org. Can I be Wojo?
Who's Yemana?!
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I thought more people would show love for Billy Joel, but alas, we move on...
Jethro Tull - Aqualung
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Jethro Tull has always been a band I liked, but not loved, even after seeing them in the mid 90's. However, this is a damn fine record, easily my favorite of theirs, and even got the Steven Wilson treatment years ago with that awesome new mix which improved the sound significantly. The title track was a song that kicked my ass the first time I heard it, and other favorites include Mother Goose, My God and Locomotive Breath. And how can you not like a band that regularly features the flute? This is good stuff.
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I only know whatever was played on the radio. I love the title track.
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Had to look up what songs are on this album. I love Hymn 43. Cross-Eyes Mary and Locomotive Breath (the only others I know) are good radio songs, but not among my favorite Tull songs.
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I only know whatever was played on the radio. I love the title track.
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Great album and the sound is improved with the remix. I saw these guys in the late seventies and they kicked ass.
I thought it was classy of Ian when interviewed about the resemblance of one of their earlier songs to the Eagles Hotel California title track.
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Hymn 43 is definitely a great one that I should have been mentioned in my write-up.
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I did listen to Aqualung back in the day, but alas it's been ages since I've heard it.
Title track is brilliant, Locomotive Breath is obviously a great rocker (Helloween did a nice cover) and I guess I don't really have to say who covered Cross Eyed Mary.
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I guess I don't really have to say who covered Cross Eyed Mary.
??? ???
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I guess I don't really have to say who covered Cross Eyed Mary.
??? ???
I do then :D
Iron Maiden covered Cross Eyed Mary, it was the B-side to The Trooper's single. That's actually how I discovered the song and, probably, that Jethro Thull existed.
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Ah, okay. I do not pay much attention to Iron Maiden, so I never would have known that.
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I never bought any Tull other than a greatest hits album. I always wanted to like Tull better but, while the hits are great, I could never quite get past the casual fan status.
The Maiden cover of Cross-Eyed Mary is fantastic.
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Billy Joel - The Stranger
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I always love me some Billy Joel, and this is his most classic and best album. Six of the nine songs are among his most well-known songs ever, and he has a lot of well-known songs, and the deep cuts are really good as well.
Scenes from an Italian Restaurant is Joel at his most epic story-telling, the title track is a melodic wonderland, and rockers like Only the Good Die Young and Movin' Out are always toe-tapping fun. It's hard to believe that all of these songs are now 42 years old. :eek :eek
I'm sorry I'm late to the party here, but this may be my favorite album of any listed so far. I LOVE this album. It's really the transition record from the stuff I listened to as a kid - Snoopy and the Red Baron, Sha Na Na - to real music. I fell out of it pretty quick as I got into The Beatles and Stones and Maiden and Kiss, but as I've gotten older - and seen him live more times than any artist not named "Kiss" - this album as really held up. And while the hits are good - Only The Good Die Young is a strong tune - and the legend goes to "Scenes From An Italian Restaurant", the real beauty is in the lesser tracks: She's Always A Woman (c'mon; easily half of you have dated that girl) and especially the beautiful "Vienna". Billy wrote that for his dad, subconsciously, who left the family when Billy was a kid and moved to his home country of Austria. Billy found him, in his 20's, in Vienna.
He talked about this a lot in one of the Howard Stern interviews, as well as one of the questions on the fourth "interview" disk of his expanded greatest hits package (which is incredibly interesting).
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Steve Harris was/is a HUGE Tull fan.
And there's this (the source material and inspiration for the Maiden song "Revelations"):
https://youtu.be/jLhf8caVIiI
(He's singing that intro acoustically, no microphone!)
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She's Always A Woman (c'mon; easily half of you have dated that girl)
"That girl"?
Marlo Thomas?
Seriously, I quickly looked at the lyrics for this song and have no idea what that means.
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I never bought any Tull other than a greatest hits album. I always wanted to like Tull better but, while the hits are great, I could never quite get past the casual fan status.
This kind of sums me up. I got their double CD best-of that came out in the 90's and by and large that is all I need from them, with the exception of Aqualung. I also have Thick as a Brick, which I love for about 10-15 minutes and then I get bored.
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Same. Though I have the Steven Wilson remaster of Aqualung.
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I have never liked Iron Maiden's cover of Cross Eyed Mary. Not when I was 14, and not now.
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I say this as a pretty big IM fan... I can't say for certain I've ever heard them do Cross-Eyed Mary.
This kind of sums me up. I got their double CD best-of that came out in the 90's....
If it's the one I had, it was a pretty good collection. I listened to it a lot in my big classic rock phase. Never owned any other of their albums.
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She's Always A Woman (c'mon; easily half of you have dated that girl)
"That girl"?
Marlo Thomas?
Seriously, I quickly looked at the lyrics for this song and have no idea what that means.
Then you're luckier than I am. That's all I can say. But for more clarity: https://www.onefinalserenade.com/shes-always-a-woman.html
(Learned something new every day department: supposedly this was one of the last songs playing over the intercom speakers in the World Trade Center before it's collapse.)
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Sorry if I'm doing this wrong but are we going to talk about 70s music without any mention of Heart, Fleetwood Mac, The Allman Brothers? Nuh uh... :P
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Sorry if I'm doing this wrong but are we going to talk about 70s music without any mention of Heart, Fleetwood Mac, The Allman Brothers? Nuh uh... :P
Right after Grand Funk Railroad , Steve Miller and Yes.
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Patience, fellow music fans. There are many great albums and we will hit them all. :tup :tup
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All??
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Patience, fellow music fans. There are many great albums and we will hit them all. :tup :tup
Even this one?!
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What in the fucking all hell is that? :lol
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What in the fucking all hell is that? :lol
http://mentalfloss.com/article/28961/stories-10-people-featured-historically-bad-album-covers
Scroll down to #5.
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Meat Loaf - Bat out of Hell
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This feels like this is one of those classics that never gets talked about anymore, but its status is well-deserved. Anybody with a pulse knows Paradise by the Dashboard Light, which is good naughty fun, but the title track is pretty killer as well. Todd Rungren's guitar work throughout is really good. Meat Loaf occasionally goes a little too over the top with his vocals, but it sure does work sometimes, and let's face it, his vocals being up in the stratosphere is much of the appeal of his music. This felt like a good album to feature "on a hot summer night..." :P
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Not sure what to say...
…..let me sleep on it. I'll give you an answer in the morning.
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That's the spirit! :metal :metal
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I would've loved to have heard what Jim Steinman actually accomplished with Def Leppard after Pyromania.
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It's weird. I love the singles of this album yet I never owned it.
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It's weird. I love the singles of this album yet I never owned it.
Same here, though I don't think as highly of Paradise.... as many other fans do. The Rizzuto part is just... eh, brings the song down for me.
Also, doing quick research here... curious as to who did the female vox on Paradise... so I find out she was the DA on Night Court before Markie Post. That is the most fascinating thing I learned all week.
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I never owned this album either!
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What in the fucking all hell is that? :lol
Fuckin' Ken, man. King and I saw him open for Sha Na Na back on the Gold Tour in '79. Sweet.
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Bat Out of Hell is a masterpiece. I'll probably say an heresy if I say that, all things considered, the second one is my favorite, but this album is killer and is absolutely deserving of the status it has.
Title track is one of the best songs ever of the genre, period. The Classic Rock Show has made an absolutely amazing cover, do yourself a favor and check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHVQ0qmhXFQ
Paradise of course is the funny and memorable track, the back and forth is hilarious. Nevermind that the guy is so hellbent on sleeping with the girl, and yet he agrees to stay with her forever and ever and actually goes through with it :lol
For Crying Out Loud is overlooked maybe, but it's a monster of a track and the final crescendo is an amazing closure to such a bombastic album.
All Revved Up is another great rocker, and while I know that 2/3 and Took the Words are among his most famous songs, I never really clicked with them. Sure, they're great, but I can do without just fine.
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BOOH is just one of those records that is FUN. It's not about the singing or the playing or the orchestration, or the time signatures, it's just FUN. I never actually bought it, then or now (though, oddly, it's in my CD collection; I think I picked it up from a girl along the way) but it's one of those albums you can't complain about when one of the songs comes on.
I'm also a big fan of Meat, the man. He coached his daughter's softball team at the high school in the next town over and there were always rumblings and rumors of Meat sightings, though I never actually saw him myself.
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Yeah this is a very fun album. I own this and BOOH 2 on CD but I don't think BOOH 2 is nearly as entertaining as the first album. This is just good fun theatrical rock.
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For a long portion of my teenage years, bat outta Hell was my desert-island album. The opening and closing tunes are god-tier for me, and the middle 5 are all top shelf.
Bats 2 was 1/2 killer, 1/2 not-so-much, but still super enjoyable.
We'll all pretended that Meat never did The Monster is Loose.
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What in the fucking all hell is that? :lol
Fuckin' Ken, man. King and I saw him open for Sha Na Na back on the Gold Tour in '79. Sweet.
Solid Gold maybe. Lol
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Sorry if I'm doing this wrong but are we going to talk about 70s music without any mention of Heart, Fleetwood Mac, The Allman Brothers? Nuh uh... :P
Right after Grand Funk Railroad , Steve Miller and Yes.
And Pink Floyd, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Damn the Torpedoes
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Tom Petty is not really someone you think of, or least I don't, when thinking of multiple classic albums, since his many hits and well-known classics are spread out over so many albums and years, but this is pretty much always considered one of his three true classic albums (the other two being from the 80's and 90's), and I can see why. It has three of his most well-known early "hits," a really good rock radio tune in Even the Losers, and the deep cuts are all solid tunes that make this a very nice overall album. I am not sure I personally would call it a great album or a classic, but I do like it, and it is highly-regarded enough to feature here.
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I was only a 'best-of' fan of Tom Petty... with or without the Heartbreakers.
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I was only a 'best-of' fan of Tom Petty... with or without the Heartbreakers.
Me too. And even calling myself a "fan" is a stretch. I remember considering buying this album solely because it had Refugee on it, my favorite song of his, but in the end, I rarely bought albums based on liking one song.
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I am generally a "best of" guy when it comes to Petty as well, but Damn the Torpedoes, Full Moon Fever and Wildflowers are all worth digging deep.
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The third album in a row here that I have never listened to.
Just ran through it. Not much worth anything beyond the 4 hits. Louisiana Rain is interesting though.
Really reminds me of Phil Lynott and Thin Lizzy.
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The third album in a row here that I have never listened to.
Just ran through it. Not much worth anything beyond the 4 hits. Louisiana Rain is interesting though.
Really reminds me of Phil Lynott and Thin Lizzy.
You've never listened to BOOH? Dude...
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Nope. I never owned it, and none of my friends ever owned it.
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Nope. I never owned it, and none of my friends ever owned it.
But you've never heard the title track? Or Paradise By The Dashboard Light? Bruh. Go listen!
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Well yes of course I have. I don't live under a damn rock. Well not a large one anyway.. :lol
But like Joel, Petty and Meatloaf, all I have heard are the hits. These are three albums that I have never actually listened to all the way through.
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You keep posting but I bet you haven't queued up the record! :lol BOOH is totally worth the time going through at least once.
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Hey, don't push your luck. :lol Tonight I ran through Damn the Torpedos. And fucking Rhapsody!
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I can settle with that. :lol :2metal:
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Apparently Bat Out Of Hell was too long to fit on the vinyl, so it was speeded up. Meat Loaf reckons he can't listen to it as to him it sounds like Marvin and the Chipmunks*.
*Yes, I know it was Alvin and the Chipmunks, but Meat Loaf's real name is Marvin, and I was trying to be funny... I'll get me coat.
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I like Petty, but honestly, I think he's overrated. I hesitate to use that word, because I get it, he's the real deal, but he gets mentioned so often in the same breath as Dylan and George Harrison (primarily because of the Traveling Wilburys) but he's not at that level, IMO.
Sme here; his album is good, but it's not at the level of Who's Next, The Stranger, and Bat (and honestly, none of his do, not even Full Moon Fever).
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I've never owned a Tom Petty album other than shortly after he passed, I bought a 2-disk collection. I was familiar with the hits and always liked them quite a bit. That collection also had quite a few deeper cuts. I have to say, as much as I liked the hits, I don't think even a single one of the deep cuts did anything for me at all. I guess I'm just a casual fan. And I'm okay with that.
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I like Petty, but honestly, I think he's overrated. I hesitate to use that word, because I get it, he's the real deal, but he gets mentioned so often in the same breath as Dylan and George Harrison (primarily because of the Traveling Wilburys) but he's not at that level, IMO.
You know who's overrated? Dylan. Seriously, is he responsible for anything remotely popular after 1970.
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I don't know why, but as I was getting into rock/popular music in the first half of the 80s, Petty always struck me as a second-class artist. Don't know why. His voice annoys me slightly less than Dylan's, but only slightly.
Bat out of Hell is one of those albums that had a huge reputation that I knew about without ever having heard any songs. But I never got into it, and I'm like Tim with the never having listened to the whole thing and am without any familiarity with any of the songs. I've heard bits and pieces here and there but never felt the need to go any further -- even after buying BOOH 2 in the late 80s because a girl I was dating loved "Anything for Love."
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I like Petty, but honestly, I think he's overrated. I hesitate to use that word, because I get it, he's the real deal, but he gets mentioned so often in the same breath as Dylan and George Harrison (primarily because of the Traveling Wilburys) but he's not at that level, IMO.
You know who's overrated? Dylan. Seriously, is he responsible for anything remotely popular after 1970.
Dude, Knockin' On Heaven's Door. Even I know that. :lol
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The ONLY Bob Dylan song I have EVER heard is Like A Rolling Stone (I'm not even sure that's the title.) I have been listening to the radio since 1980 and that's it. I honestly don't think I have actually heard Knocking On Heaven's Door. I mean I must have but I can't recall.
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The ONLY Bob Dylan song I have EVER heard is Like A Rolling Stone (I'm not even sure that's the title.) I have been listening to the radio since 1980 and that's it. I honestly don't think I have actually heard Knocking On Heaven's Door. I mean I must have but I can't recall.
You've never even heard the GnR cover? :facepalm: Every time I think you've said the most surprising thing, you find a way to one-up yourself. Never change :lol
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I like Petty, but honestly, I think he's overrated. I hesitate to use that word, because I get it, he's the real deal, but he gets mentioned so often in the same breath as Dylan and George Harrison (primarily because of the Traveling Wilburys) but he's not at that level, IMO.
You know who's overrated? Dylan. Seriously, is he responsible for anything remotely popular after 1970.
Dude, Knockin' On Heaven's Door. Even I know that. :lol
Yeah, but that shouldn't count in this conversation since GnR covered it.
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The ONLY Bob Dylan song I have EVER heard is Like A Rolling Stone (I'm not even sure that's the title.) I have been listening to the radio since 1980 and that's it. I honestly don't think I have actually heard Knocking On Heaven's Door. I mean I must have but I can't recall.
You've never even heard the GnR cover? :facepalm: Every time I think you've said the most surprising thing, you find a way to one-up yourself. Never change :lol
K-Lox, Of course I have heard the GnR version. I posted quite a bit when you listed the Illusion albums in your Top 50 thread. I only saw them on the Illusion tour 4 times.
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You know who's overrated? Dylan. Seriously, is he responsible for anything remotely popular after 1970.
Dylan, to me, is like the Sex Pistols and Velvet Underground: influential, sure, but I'd rather shave my head with a cheese knife while chewing on tin foil before listening to any of them.
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The ONLY Bob Dylan song I have EVER heard is Like A Rolling Stone (I'm not even sure that's the title.) I have been listening to the radio since 1980 and that's it. I honestly don't think I have actually heard Knocking On Heaven's Door. I mean I must have but I can't recall.
You've never even heard the GnR cover? :facepalm: Every time I think you've said the most surprising thing, you find a way to one-up yourself. Never change :lol
K-Lox, Of course I have heard the GnR version. I posted quite a bit when you listed the Illusion albums in your Top 50 thread. I only saw them on the Illusion tour 4 times.
Well then you've heard the song! :lol
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But I've never heard the DYLAN VERSION!
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You've had 46 years to hear the Dylan version!! :rollin
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But when would I have ever heard it if it wasn't played on the radio? My point is that if he was so popular and influential, I should've at least ran into a song or two of his at some point, and it just never happened.
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But when would I have ever heard it if it wasn't played on the radio? My point is that if he was so popular and influential, I should've at least ran into a song or two of his at some point, and it just never happened.
Dude if you haven't heard Knockin' On Heaven's Door that is entirely your fault. Take a few minutes and go listen. :lol Love ya TAC.
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I'm not sure why anyone would voluntarily listen to a Dylan song when there are vastly superior covers available. ???
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Oh God no, I have no interest.
I'm not sure why anyone would voluntarily listen to a Dylan song when there are vastly superior covers available. ???
Exactly.
My point is that in all of my years, I've never heard ANY Dylan on the radio. I grew up on rock or classic rock radio and Dylan was never represented.
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I started typing up something about being familiar with the roots of the song and the original artist's version and I could feel Stadler channeled through my fingertips. :lol
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Oh God no, I have no interest.
I'm not sure why anyone would voluntarily listen to a Dylan song when there are vastly superior covers available. ???
Exactly.
My point is that in all of my years, I've never heard ANY Dylan on the radio. I grew up on rock or classic rock radio and Dylan was never represented.
Okay, I think Dylan sucks, so I'm not defending him as a brilliant musician or anything. But you never having heard him is a TAC issue, not a "Dylan isn't popular" issue. He was (and is) played on radio plenty.
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But only Like A Rolling Stone is played.
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I started typing up something about being familiar with the roots of the song and the original artist's version and I could feel Stadler channeled through my fingertips. :lol
:lol Well, I disagree with Stadler on that. There are tons of covers I would MUCH rather listen to than the originals, and many where I would go even farther and say that I don't care for the originals at all. For example:
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj_RDyOUHzU) than James Taylor.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7k_WV17hy8) than Procol Harem.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8WHA3WWz0) than the Kinks.
...and so on. And I chose those specifically because I did not hear the originals until YEARS after I first heard the covers. And while I like those covers immensely, I have no desire to hear the originals at all.
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I would rather listen to anything than James Taylor. Well, except for maybe Bob Dylan..
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TAC, the non-senile adults are talking. Do I need to send you to BINGO so we can have a conversation?
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But when would I have ever heard it if it wasn't played on the radio? My point is that if he was so popular and influential, I should've at least ran into a song or two of his at some point, and it just never happened.
I don't think it's an understatement to say I've heard 10 times as many covers of Dylan songs by other artists than I've heard Dylan recordings. If I've heard Dylan's version of "Knockin'," I don't recall it (and I have never listed to radio stations that are likely to play it), and GnR's version makes me want to vomit, so I don't think it would be improved by swapping out Crapxl Rose for Dylan.
By the way, TAC, thanks for taking most of the heat for guys like us.
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I started typing up something about being familiar with the roots of the song and the original artist's version and I could feel Stadler channeled through my fingertips. :lol
:lol Well, I disagree with Stadler on that. There are tons of covers I would MUCH rather listen to than the originals, and many where I would go even farther and say that I don't care for the originals at all. For example:
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj_RDyOUHzU) than James Taylor.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7k_WV17hy8) than Procol Harem.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8WHA3WWz0) than the Kinks.
...and so on. And I chose those specifically because I did not hear the originals until YEARS after I first heard the covers. And while I like those covers immensely, I have no desire to hear the originals at all.
Well I'm not arguing that the originals are better, just that it's not a bad idea to at least hear the original version if only to know what the cover in question did differently. Plenty of covers I like way more than the original (and GnR's cover is one of them, as is their Live And Let Die cover and Sympathy for the Devil cover).
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No, I get that. But I'm going even farther and saying that, to someone who really dislikes the original artist, there's no reason at all to listen to the originals. For someone who can't stand Dylan, there's no reason to listen to his version at all. Just simply enjoy the GnR version and call it a day.
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I own Petty's 6 CD box set and it is amazing. Saw him twice live and while the band crafts perfect short rock songs, they extend songs where Mike Campbell tears ut up. Man, I never knew how amazing a guitarist he was until seeing them live.
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Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Thin_Lizzy_-_Jailbreak.jpg)
Time to throw some read meat to TAC, the biggest, and possibly only, Thin Lizzy fan on the east coast. ;)
I only know the hits from this, but they are all solid tunes. Maybe I will listen to the whole thing if someone other than TAC can sell me on it...go! :hat
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Other than Jailbreak and Boys Are Back in Town, did Thin Lizzy ever record anything relevant?
Oh yeah, Metallica covered them once. Decent tune.
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Other than Jailbreak and Boys Are Back in Town, did Thin Lizzy ever record anything relevant?
Those are the only two songs I know. And I am not even sure those are relevant.
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This album actually has a very good rating on various sites, good enough for classic status, so I figured it was good enough to feature before we get to the next real classic. :biggrin:
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There's got to be some kind of relevance as it seems that every big name Hard Rock / Metal artist talks about how huge of an influence these guys were.
Maiden, Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth have all covered them just off the top of my head. Not to mention all of the other artists I have heard cite them.
I know very little about Lizzy besides the cover tunes and a could of radio hits. This might be like the Beatles with me, every artist talks about them but I just don't get it. Funny, I do love every Lizzy cover I have heard from the bands I listed.
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I started typing up something about being familiar with the roots of the song and the original artist's version and I could feel Stadler channeled through my fingertips. :lol
:lol Well, I disagree with Stadler on that. There are tons of covers I would MUCH rather listen to than the originals, and many where I would go even farther and say that I don't care for the originals at all. For example:
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj_RDyOUHzU) than James Taylor.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7k_WV17hy8) than Procol Harem.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8WHA3WWz0) than the Kinks.
...and so on. And I chose those specifically because I did not hear the originals until YEARS after I first heard the covers. And while I like those covers immensely, I have no desire to hear the originals at all.
Yeah, but to be fair to Stadler, he's not saying you have to LIKE the original better, just that it helps to have HEARD the original to get the seed for where the artist covering it took it.
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How'd we get to discussing Dylan? I had a Greatest Hits CD of his, I mainly bought it to own Like a Rolling Stone (breaking my own rule of not buying an album for one song, but I figured Greatest Hits from a legend, so should be a good bet, right?) Anyway, it was the only song I listened to regularly.
Yeah, but to be fair to Stadler, he's not saying you have to LIKE the original better, just that it helps to have HEARD the original to get the seed for where the artist covering it took it.
It doesn't, but we've argued about this several times :p
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We can blame the Dylan chatter on Stadler. :P
As for Like a Rolling Stone, I remember Dylan performing it on one of the last Letterman NBC specials and it was actually comical how bad he sounded. Found it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedNVVw8LD0
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Well, to pile on Dylan talk, don't forget All Along The Watchtower. Yes, I have never actually heard Dylan's version. Of course, even Dylan feels Hendrix's version is far superior.
Dylan has described his reaction to hearing Hendrix's version: "It overwhelmed me, really. He had such talent, he could find things inside a song and vigorously develop them. He found things that other people wouldn't think of finding in there. He probably improved upon it by the spaces he was using. I took license with the song from his version, actually, and continue to do it to this day." In the booklet accompanying his Biograph album, Dylan said: "I liked Jimi Hendrix's record of this and ever since he died I've been doing it that way... Strange how when I sing it, I always feel it's a tribute to him in some kind of way."
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Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Thin_Lizzy_-_Jailbreak.jpg)
Time to throw some read meat to TAC, the biggest, and possibly only, Thin Lizzy fan on the east coast. ;)
I only know the hits from this, but they are all solid tunes. Maybe I will listen to the whole thing if someone other than TAC can sell me on it...go! :hat
This album actually has a very good rating on various sites, good enough for classic status, so I figured it was good enough to feature before we get to the next real classic. :biggrin:
Haha!
OK, considering this album gave us one of the great and most played songs of the 70's, The Boys Are Back In Town, I'd say that it's a classic album. In fact, I heard that song on an Applebee's commercial last night! :lol
This is far from my favorite Thin Lizzy album. But it does have a number of great tracks.
Here is the Spotify link to the album:
https://open.spotify.com/album/6Cf545T4jkaiyvMnTRPOB2?si=8N_nG0zvRFqwG2GwEQfIzg
This album contains two of my favorite Thin Lizzy songs..The Boys Are Back In Town (Bon Jovi does a great cover) and The Cowboy Song (Also a great cover by Anthrax)
Emerald is also an all time classic. But this album has a number of cool deep tracks like Warrior and Running Back.
I have made the comparison between Tom Petty and Phil Lynott many times.
So Kev, I ran through Damn The Torpedos last night. You owe me a run through of Jailbreak.
Other than Jailbreak and Boys Are Back in Town, did Thin Lizzy ever record anything relevant?
This was only their one hit album. They were their own worst enemies. But to me, they have a discography that I could not live without.
Laugh all you want motherfuckers, but they are like my 5th or 6th favorite band depending on the day.
Also:
(https://i.imgur.com/cxfANhI.jpg)
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Nice! :tup :tup
So Kev, I ran through Damn The Torpedos last night. You owe me a run through of Jailbreak.
I'm listening to a Tommy Shaw solo album at the moment, but I'll get to it. ;)
Laugh all you want motherfuckers, but they are like my 5th or 6th favorite band depending on the day.
And that's all that matters. :hat
I mean, don't we all have a favorite that many others think, "Really?"
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I started typing up something about being familiar with the roots of the song and the original artist's version and I could feel Stadler channeled through my fingertips. :lol
:lol Well, I disagree with Stadler on that. There are tons of covers I would MUCH rather listen to than the originals, and many where I would go even farther and say that I don't care for the originals at all. For example:
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj_RDyOUHzU) than James Taylor.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7k_WV17hy8) than Procol Harem.
-I would rather listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8WHA3WWz0) than the Kinks.
...and so on. And I chose those specifically because I did not hear the originals until YEARS after I first heard the covers. And while I like those covers immensely, I have no desire to hear the originals at all.
Yeah, but to be fair to Stadler, he's not saying you have to LIKE the original better, just that it helps to have HEARD the original to get the seed for where the artist covering it took it.
Hahaha. My man.
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Stadelox!
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Maiden, Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth have all covered them just off the top of my head. Not to mention all of the other artists I have heard cite them.
Here's two great versions of Don't Believe A Word.
The Cure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDrj2CWAcQ
Def Leppard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgM8m1BYvEE
And of course the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbO3hGrotRk
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I love how Kev waits until the BOTTOM post of the page to unleash Jailbreak. :lol
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Well, it had to be SOMEWHERE IN THIS THREAD!
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Any suggestions for Thin Lizzy songs that have sparkles of what Iron Maiden would later be inspired from? I know that they were a huge influence for Maiden, so I'd be interested to know if there are songs that would make you think "Ah, yeah, I guess this is what inspired Iron Maiden". (I did listen to some stuff here and there and off the top of my head Emerald is a great song, but I wanted to see if there's some consensus about which songs more represent what Iron Maiden got inspired from).
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Any suggestions for Thin Lizzy songs that have sparkles of what Iron Maiden would later be inspired from? I know that they were a huge influence for Maiden, so I'd be interested to know if there are songs that would make you think "Ah, yeah, I guess this is what inspired Iron Maiden". (I did listen to some stuff here and there and off the top of my head Emerald is a great song, but I wanted to see if there's some consensus about which songs more represent what Iron Maiden got inspired from).
So considering Steve Harris turned 14 in 1970, you'd have to think he was inspired by the early Eric Bell Era albums. Even though there was only one guitarist on these first three albums, there are a number of songs that have pretty interesting arrangements likeThe Rise And Fall Of The Funky Nomadic Tribes (https://open.spotify.com/track/1mfVusgIGEV4uRzFrXiyjX?si=FkYWOmwwS_WUPEym4DFt9w), not that this will make you think of Iron Maiden, but it's a cool arrangement for a 1972 song. Knowing Steve was also influenced by Yes, Jethro Tull, and Wishbone Ash, song arrangements seemed to be something that interested him.
And Gonna Creep Up On You (https://open.spotify.com/track/2AHBw2jEUeQPREvpv0hI3t?si=jqxIlhkYSUWvELmTC2ZYQA) (not a great song by any stretch..) starts out with some serious bass. I mean Steve Harris played basically the same bass guitar as Lynott.
Now I wouldn't start anyone on Thin Lizzy on their first three albums. But once Scott Gorham and Brian Robertson joined the band, there developed a harmonized two guitar style that is Thin Lizzy's greatest gift to Iron Maiden.
That classic era included Fighting (1975), Jailbreak and Johnnie The Fox (both 1976) and Bad Reputation (1977).
No song really screams IRON MAIDEN to me.
Obviously, there's Massacre (https://open.spotify.com/track/2qU9TKbgn0VLu51lFkjm47?si=0dIs4YEOT6q9CmKoslEeGw) which Iron Maiden actually covered.
You mentioned Emerald, which would be the first Thin Lizzy song I would play for an Iron Maiden fan wanting to dive into Thin Lizzy.
I think Steve Harris would have generally been influenced by Thin Lizzy's storytelling and imagination. Again, the musical component was the twin guitar harmonies.
I'm not sure what Nicko's influences are. Pretty sure he was already professionally playing in the mid 70's, but I always found that the drumming to Opium Trail (https://open.spotify.com/track/7ChneMmokAVhsnOsCk4Q3a?si=qUUEJ9aqQjugl2MDl4qxpA) reminds me of Nicko.
I'll repost this in the Iron Maiden thread. I don't want to give Kev a popsicle headache.
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Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Pink_Floyd%2C_Wish_You_Were_Here_%281975%29.png)
One of the most perfect records of not only the 70's, but of any era, ever. Every single thing about this record is perfect - the music, the lyrics, the atmosphere, the playing, the artwork, everything.
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE this album. I don't in any way consider myself a Pink Floyd fan, but this album is fantastic.
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE this album. I don't in any way consider myself a Pink Floyd fan, but this album is fantastic.
Almost the same. Seeing Gilmour perform Shine On a few years ago was spine-tingling.
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Yeah, I'm more of a hard rock/metal guys, but there's something about this album....and Animals that totally hit the spot.
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Definitely one of the most played CDs in my classic rock phase. At this point, the middle three songs are 'Retired Favorites' that I never feel compelled to listen to, and rank in the middle of the pack of PF's material. But if I grow to be 100 listening to Shine On... will never cease to bring me joy.
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Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
One of the most perfect records of not only the 70's, but of any era, ever. Every single thing about this record is perfect - the music, the lyrics, the atmosphere, the playing, the artwork, everything.
Yes, in fact the holy trinity of Dark Side, Wish... and Animals (cared less for The Wall) are a must for any self respecting prog fan, each showcasing a slightly different aspect to the band. But Wish... highlighted Floyd's mastery of space and atmospherics. The two Animals songs initially slated for Wish... would have detracted from the overall feel of this individual album. Certainly this was the last 70s one Rick Wright was happy with.
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Wish You Were Here is as perfect an album as it is possible to get. 'Nuff said.
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And as for Bob Dylan -
Really? You've never heard Blowin' in the Wind? The Times they are a-Changing? Subterranean Homesick Blues? Like a Rolling Stone? Just Like A Woman? Lay Lady Lay? A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall? Hey Mr Tamborine Man? Quinn the Eskimo? It's All Over Now Baby Blue? Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again?
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WYWH is god-tier. I put it slightly behind The Wall for my own personal reasons (the latter had a bigger impact on my teenage years), but not by much. Many a 'baking' session was spent with WYWH. Welcome to the Machine is a Top 10 song of all time for my preferences - #8 to be precise.
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I'll play along, even though it was not directed at me.
And as for Bob Dylan -
Really? You've never heard.....
Blowin' in the Wind? Yes
The Times they are a-Changing? Yes, thanks to Blackmore's Night
Subterranean Homesick Blues? No
Like a Rolling Stone? I assume yes, but I can't tell right now how the song goes
Just Like A Woman? Lay Lady Lay? Both no
A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall? Yes, thanks to a local folk artist who used it as an intro for a song of his about New Orleans during Kathrina 2005
Hey Mr Tamborine Man? I recognize the title, don't know if I heard the song and if I did I don't know right now how it goes
Quinn the Eskimo? It's All Over Now Baby Blue? Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again? All no.
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WYWH is my favorite Pink Floyd album! Everything about it is perfect, IMO.
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WYWH is god-tier. I put it slightly behind The Wall for my own personal reasons (the latter had a bigger impact on my teenage years), but not by much.
Same here. The Wall was the first Floyd album I heard, in the fall of 1990, and it was a life-changing album for me. I would concede that Wish You Were Here is probably the slightly better overall record, but The Wall is a bit more of a personal favorite. Both would be in my top 10-15 all-time list. :hat
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As I have posted before, I was pretty late to the Pink Floyd party. And they are one of those bands whose discography I have never felt compelled to complete (although there are two albums I still need to add). I got this one relatively recently (about 5 years ago, I think), and I love it. Really great album from start to finish.
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WYWH is god-tier. I put it slightly behind The Wall for my own personal reasons (the latter had a bigger impact on my teenage years), but not by much.
Same here. The Wall was the first Floyd album I heard, in the fall of 1990, and it was a life-changing album for me. I would concede that Wish You Were Here is probably the slightly better overall record, but The Wall is a bit more of a personal favorite. Both would be in my top 10-15 all-time list. :hat
Kev,
We've talked before about how much the order in which you hear a band's discography effects your feeling toward it. I'm as guilty as anyone in this regard. WYWH was released shortly after my 14th birthday. I was kind of a record store junky in those days and I proudly brought the record home that same week to one up my older brother. He'd been the first to introduce me to DSotM and I couldn't wait rub it in his face that I'd beat him to the punch.
I often relate 70's music to the books I was reading at the time. In this case, Lord of the Rings. That could also have an effect on how I feel about this album since I was completely obsessed with LotR then. :biggrin:
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And as for Bob Dylan -
Really? You've never heard Blowin' in the Wind? The Times they are a-Changing? Subterranean Homesick Blues? Like a Rolling Stone? Just Like A Woman? Lay Lady Lay? A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall? Hey Mr Tamborine Man? Quinn the Eskimo? It's All Over Now Baby Blue? Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again?
Blowin' in the Wind? Yes, but it was the Peter, Paul & Mary version.
Mr. Tambourine Man? Yes, but it was the Byrds' version.
Quinn the Eskimo? Yes, but it was the Manfred Mann version.
I've heard OF Like a Rolling Stone (although that phrase makes me think of Dig It by the Beatles) and The Times They Are a-Changing, and I might have heard them, but I have no idea how they go.
They others don't even sound familiar to me.
As for Floyd, the mere mention makes me sleepy.
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WYWH is god-tier. I put it slightly behind The Wall for my own personal reasons (the latter had a bigger impact on my teenage years), but not by much.
Same here. The Wall was the first Floyd album I heard, in the fall of 1990, and it was a life-changing album for me. I would concede that Wish You Were Here is probably the slightly better overall record, but The Wall is a bit more of a personal favorite. Both would be in my top 10-15 all-time list. :hat
:hifive: I was 4 years ahead of you, but otherwise, we're identical in this regard. As I look back at my Top 50 ranking, WYWH was #17; The Wall #14
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:hifive: I was 4 years ahead of you, but otherwise, we're identical in this regard. As I look back at my Top 50 ranking, WYWH was #17; The Wall #14
:coolio :hat
Kev,
We've talked before about how much the order in which you hear a band's discography effects your feeling toward it. I'm as guilty as anyone in this regard. WYWH was released shortly after my 14th birthday. I was kind of a record store junky in those days and I proudly brought the record home that same week to one up my older brother. He'd been the first to introduce me to DSotM and I couldn't wait rub it in his face that I'd beat him to the punch.
:tup :tup
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Saturday Night Fever (Soundtrack)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/TheBeeGeesSaturdayNightFeveralbumcover.jpg)
I actually remember my parents listening to this a lot in the late 70's/early 80's on 8-track. That's right, 8-track! I cannot say I have ever actually listened to it since, but it's definitely a disco classic, featuring five songs that most people my age or older know pretty well, the four big Bee Gees hits and Disco Inferno by the Trammps. Say what you want, but Disco Inferno is one helluva fun song. Let's hear from the older fans who grew up listening to this.
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Not sure you want to hear what I have to say.
A lot of these songs are catchy. But so is chlamydia.
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Not sure you want to hear what I have to say.
A lot of these songs are catchy. But so is chlamydia.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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I love how on the album cover, John Travolta is actually pointing at the Bee Gees. Kind of like, "Don't blame me, THEY made me do it."
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I bought this with a Beach Boys greatest hits.
I was 9. Sue me. :lol
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My parents had this was well, but think it was on CD, and yes they played it a lot. Off the top of my head I didn't recall what was on it other than the Bee Gee songs and Disco Inferno (which back when I was a kid was my favorite, and today still one of my favorite disco-era songs - yes I have favorite disco-era songs). Looking it up I am amazed it has some other awesome songs I had no idea were on it.
I don't know if I have ever seen this movie the whole way through, I can only recall seeing it in bits and parts throughout the years.
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I bought this with a Beach Boys greatest hits.
I was 9. Sue me. :lol
(https://www.backtothesugarcamp.com/be125667cdb7d3ec084afa2e37f7b384.jpg)
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No joke there. Just in Technicolor. Lol
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I have a Bee Gees greatest hits that I actually listen to a fair amount. If you can get past the disco stylings (which aren't as bad as some of the songs of the era) there is some fine songcraft there.
Also, the movie is better than it should be, though it's a little darker than the bouncy music suggests. I always felt bad for Annette.
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:lol I had this too. I remember picking it up at a garage sale and listening to it on my walkman while doing my paper route. Chad is right about the songs being catchy. For some reason, the song I liked the most was the Kool & the Gang song, Open Sesame. :metal
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I used to listen to the SNF soundtrack as a kid...that's one of the most awesome soundtracks of all time. Every song is huge, and I still enjoy the Bee Gees today.
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Saturday Night Fever (Soundtrack)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/TheBeeGeesSaturdayNightFeveralbumcover.jpg)
I actually remember my parents listening to this a lot in the late 70's/early 80's on 8-track. That's right, 8-track! I cannot say I have ever actually listened to it since, but it's definitely a disco classic, featuring five songs that most people my age or older know pretty well, the four big Bee Gees hits and Disco Inferno by the Trammps. Say what you want, but Disco Inferno is one helluva fun song. Let's hear from the older fans who grew up listening to this.
This was before my time: I was 10 when the movie came out. I wasn't into popular music and certainly wasn't interested in a movie about people dancing. But you can't have missed this. It was EVERYWHERE. To this day, though, I don't think I've ever seen the movie.
Looking at the list of songs, the song I was probably most familiar with at the time was A Fifth of Beethoven, which was actually released long before the movie. I see there's also a disco version of Night on Bald Mountain (called Night on Disco Mountain), which I don't think I've ever heard, but which I might check out. Boogie Shoes, Disco Inferno and four of the six Bee-Gees songs on the album were ubiquitous (Stayin' Alive, How Deep Is Your Love, Night Fever and More Than a Woman), and another is familiar by name (Jive Talkin'). None of the other songs' names ring any bells for me. I can't say I really "like" anything on this album, but it's definitely nostalgic.
My elementary school used to have discounted nights at a local roller rink. I couldn't roller skate for shit, but a couple kids could, and the images of people skating with these songs playing is etched upon my memory for all time.
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Don't forget "You Should be Dancing" too, which had the best dance scene in the movie. Watching John Travolta move like that is just so cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUID0jSh2Ic
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Other than Jailbreak and Boys Are Back in Town, did Thin Lizzy ever record anything relevant?
Oh yeah, Metallica covered them once. Decent tune.
Yes. They didn’t often grab me with whole albums, but their best Of is as good as anyone’s.
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I think the soundtrack stands the test of time better than the movie does.
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Don't forget "You Should be Dancing" too, which had the best dance scene in the movie. Watching John Travolta move like that is just so cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUID0jSh2Ic
I don't think I have seen the movie since I was a kid, and watching that scene again just now, it is weird seeing Travolta looking so young and so thin. Wonder if he can still dance like that...I doubt it.
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King Crimson - Larks Tongues in Aspic
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Larks_tongues_in_aspic_album_cover.jpg)
This album is very much loved by music fans in general, and most would call it a classic. For me, King Crimson is a band that is really hit or miss, and that describes this album in general for me. I like it, as it has some really great moments, but it has some moments I am not wild about either. Taking the song The Talking Drum. That is mostly a cool song, with a great build-up, but the climax with those screeching violins makes me want to pull my ears off with a pair of pliers. The title track, of which we get two parts, is good. Part 1 is good in a chilling kind of way, while Part 2 rocks your balls off, but neither is one I ever reach for anymore. Easy Money and Exiles are easily my two favorite songs here. Good album overall, but like quite a few other King Crimson albums, I don't think it quite lives up to its reputation.
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King Crimson.... Blah
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Fist comment is ..
.... Blah
..6 hours after the original post.
Yup. :lol
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Weekend forum traffic is always a bit slower, fool. :lol :lol
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To be fair I haven't listened to much KC but from what I have checked out I didn't enjoy anything so never delved any deeper.
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King Crimson.... Blah
Ditto. The only KC album I own is (naturally) ITCOTCK. And I think I've listened to it 2 or 3 times. Meh. Don't see what the fuss is all about.
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King Crimson.... Blah
Ditto. The only KC album I own is (naturally) ITCOTCK. And I think I've listened to it 2 or 3 times. Meh. Don't see what the fuss is all about.
Dude. ITCOTCK is phenomenal!! Almost made my top 50.
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King Crimson.... Blah
Ditto. The only KC album I own is (naturally) ITCOTCK. And I think I've listened to it 2 or 3 times. Meh. Don't see what the fuss is all about.
Dude. ITCOTCK is phenomenal!! Almost made my top 50.
could be considered as the first ever prog album in history. I don't listen to it often, but it paved the way for so many other albums I think.
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It was not the first prog album ever, but it was undoubtedly highly influential.
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Larks Tongues in Aspic is excellent! At the very top of the KC albums in my opinion, yet I don't know if I would have ever picked it as a "classic" album if I were running this thread. I guess it could be considered a classic on this forum where you're guaranteed to find a significant group who are familiar with it, but to the larger world, it's pretty obscure.
Talking Drums, Easy Money, Exiles, Part 1 and especially Part 2 (I love how evil the guitars feel on this song) are all awesome.
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Larks Tongues in Aspic is excellent! At the very top of the KC albums in my opinion, yet I don't know if I would have ever picked it as a "classic" album if I were running this thread. I guess it could be considered a classic on this forum where you're guaranteed to find a significant group who are familiar with it, but to the larger world, it's pretty obscure.
Talking Drums, Easy Money, Exiles, Part 1 and especially Part 2 (I love how evil the guitars feel on this song) are all awesome.
I agree, one of my favourites and the start of a great run of KC albums IMHO
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Okay, we move on...
Kansas - Leftoverture
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Kansas_-_Leftoverture.jpg)
Recommend by mike099, this was on my list anyway of albums to feature, but I moved it up in the rotation. This is usually in my all-time top 10. I got into Kansas through their Best-Of in the early 90's and never really heard anything else, and a few years later, a friend was like, "You need to hear Leftoverture." I only knew Carry On Wayward Son and The Wall, so he played me Miracles out of Nowhere, and my jaw was on the floor for like days. I couldn't believe how awesome that song was, and I still can't. Cheyenne Anthem also completely floored me, and on more days than not, I call it my favorite Kansas song. And the rest of the album is pretty much totally money as well, the only exception being there merely-good What's On My Mind. But hey, 7 totally awesome songs and 1 good song is something I will take each and every time. This is Kansas at their best.
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Okay, we move on...
Kansas - Leftoverture
I didn't buy this until a good 10-15 years after it was released. When I started getting into Kansas in the late 80s, I started with the 1984 "Best of" package and then moved on to Two for the Show. The former had two songs from Leftoverture (Wayward Son and The Wall), and the latter had the same two and Magnum Opus (although I'd have sworn that it had a version of Miracles out of Nowhere). I probably bought Point of Know Return First, but Leftoverture eclipses POKR. Other than What's on My Mind, all of side 1 is epic, and the same is true of nearly all of side 2. It's odd that Kansas never got the credit it deserved as a true prog band. Absolutely great album from a band firing on all cylinders.
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Top 10 album of all time for me. Just from top to bottom perfection.
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There's something about Kansas that leaves me with blue balls. To me, they'd be much better a lot heavier.
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I figured marriage caused that.
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I don't listen to this album enough. I'll rectify that tomorrow.
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I don't listen to this album enough. I'll rectify that tomorrow.
And then you'll remember why you don't listen to this album enough...
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TAC: Never missing an opportunity to take a steaming dump on something most everyone else loves.
:tup
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TAC is a caricature of TAC at this point. :lol :lol
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More likely verbal diarrhea.
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Stay on topic!
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There's something about Kansas that leaves me with blue balls. To me, they'd be much better a lot heavier.
At the risk of making it very awkward, I share TAC's feeling on this. I SHOULD like it, but - and Styx is the same way - it doesn't do it for me.
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Ah, 1976! What a great year for music, and Leftoverture was a huge part of it. I was barely 15 and this album was fighting for equal time on my Garrard turntable with 2112. Ultimately, 2112 won, but just barely. I dig every song on this album and in spite of what TAC and Stadler say, it rocks hard. That's the best thing about Kansas, they were very much art rock (that's what we called it before we called it prog) oriented but they always remembered to rock.
In the end, not my favorite Kansas album but on most days it's in second place.
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Good point! The album sure does rock pretty hard at times.
And I still maintain that at his peak, Steve Walsh was THE best rock singer ever. It's just too bad that his peak was so short due to his addiction to cigarettes, which ruined that perfect voice.
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Old friend LudwigVan, whose opinion I respect more than any other when it comes to music, cites Walsh as his favorite singer. Personally, I don't hear it.
I love Carry On My Wayward Sun, but even though they may rock, they never really raaaawwwwwkkkk. That's not a knock on them. They are really a "just miss" band for me.
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You are a bit inconsistent, Tim. Every Kansas album in the 70s had multiple songs that rock harder than anything Alice Cooper ever produced in the 70s. That’s not to say that AC didn’t rock...but he was light weight compared to Kansas.
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Inconsistent? Personal attack reported! :lol
Look, I don't want to be in a position to slag on Kansas. They're an amazing band. I have their classic albums, including Leftoverture.
And Leftoverture is an excellent album.
And to be clear, I am not trying to be negative. I'm just conversing about why I have trouble getting into Kansas.
There's two main reasons. The first is I actually find Steve Walsh quite boring. He really doesn't do anything for me. I'm not saying he sucks or anything. I'm just saying that I just don't engage with him.
The second is that, yes, while they certainly do rock, to me, there's just something missing. Like I keep waiting for something to happen that never comes. I like my music a bit more guitar driven.
As far as Alice Cooper as a comparison. Sure you could say that Leftoverture is actually "heavier" than Goes To Hell, but I find Alice Cooper a generally fulfilling experience, whereas I don't have that same sensation with Kansas. Not sure I can make that sound sensible.
People like what they like.
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Saw Kansas Saturday. They were amazing, even though Walsh isn't there, I wouldn't want him to be if his voice is that shot. Ronnie Platt does a great job both vocally and keyboard wise. Ted Leonard also does great, as does their lead Zak Rizvi.
Wish they would've played Magnum Opus though. Cheyenne Anthem has to be my favorite from this album, along with The Wall. I barely really dug into their albums 2 years ago when I bought Leftoverture, Masque, and Song For America.
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Kansas rocks in a good way, not in a generic Thin Lizzy kinda way.
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There's nothing generic about Thin Lizzy.
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There's nothing generic about Thin Lizzy.
Not sure I can make that sound sensible.
:tup :tup
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Never got in to Kansas beyond the radio staples. No idea why.
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TAC's right on this. I can't put it into words any better than he can, but there was just something about them that was... good not great. It was a 9 out of 10. It was a 5-6-7-8-9 straight instead of a full house. It was a Target model instead of a Victoria Secret model. It was a sirloin instead of a filet mignon. It was a Yuengling instead of a Guiness. it was a...
If I'm going to put on classic 70's rock it's going to be Aerosmith, Cheap Trick or Alice Cooper. And if I want proggier (and still American) I'm going Allman Brothers or the Dixie Dregs.
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Actually Stads, I consider Kansas great, not good. But I just can't fully latch on.
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I'm not going to quibble with that; they're all players. Kerry Livgren is the real deal.
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Oh boy, is Hef ever going to box your ears when he reads this. Both you and Stads are in big trouble. :P
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Had a spin of Leftoverture yesterday, along with Point of Know Return. I prefer the latter. Kansas was one of those acts that I didn't dig in to when discovering classic rock in my teens. To that end, other bands left an indelible imprint on me in ways that Kansas (and others .. ELP, Alan Parsan's, Cooper, MSG etc....) never did/will. Great album, sure... but when I'm in a fix for 70s, I'll go to the Who, or Zeppelin, or Elton, or Boston, or .... insert a lot of others. I'm sure we're all the same way in that regard - some left a mark on our musical DNA; some didn't.
Kansas falls into the latter for me, despite being really great music. It's not that they don't click with me the way Tim/Bill state, it's just that I didn't give them a chance at the right time to be part of my 70s A List. They're on (my personal) B+List.
If that makes any sense.
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It was a Target model instead of a Victoria Secret model.
I'll agree with this analogy. Kansas had meat on its bones (both literally and figuratively). It had substance and was not scrawny, shapeless and rail thin. (VS models are, for the most part, gross).
It was a sirloin instead of a filet mignon. It was a Yuengling instead of a Guiness.
I'd say Kansas is one of those 72 ounce steaks that you get for free if you can finish it (but with the added bonus that it won't make you sick). Kansas is definitely the meat and potatoes of 70s prog rock, and Kansas is most definitely a Guiness.
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Had a spin of Leftoverture yesterday, along with Point of Know Return. I prefer the latter. Kansas was one of those acts that I didn't dig in to when discovering classic rock in my teens. To that end, other bands left an indelible imprint on me in ways that Kansas (and others .. ELP, Alan Parsan's, Cooper, MSG etc....) never did/will. Great album, sure... but when I'm in a fix for 70s, I'll go to the Who, or Zeppelin, or Elton, or Boston, or .... insert a lot of others. I'm sure we're all the same way in that regard - some left a mark on our musical DNA; some didn't.
Kansas falls into the latter for me, despite being really great music. It's not that they don't click with me the way Tim/Bill state, it's just that I didn't give them a chance at the right time to be part of my 70s A List. They're on (my personal) B+List.
If that makes any sense.
I get what you mean. I know some didn't like them a lot because Kansas had that American wall of sound and wasn't as "airy" as the European prog of the early to mid 70's. Plus, I read once that some Europeans felt that prog rock/art rock/whatever it was called back then was "their" genre, and didn't like the idea of an American band hitching their wagon to it.
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Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
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I admittedly don't listen to this album that much, or jazz in general, but I have a great appreciation for it, and I remember getting this on CD about 15 years or so ago and being thrilled with how good it was. I will have to give this a fresh spin. Will be interesting to see if there are any fans here.
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Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
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I admittedly don't listen to this album that much, or jazz in general, but I have a great appreciation for it, and I remember getting this on CD about 15 years or so ago and being thrilled with how good it was. I will have to give this a fresh spin. Will be interesting to see if there are any fans here.
I'm a fan of Miles, but not of this album. I prefer In A Silent Way (released right before Bitches Brew) a lot more. Bitches Brew is a mess IMHO (although there were some good ideas on it and I don't want to deny that it is a classic and sparked jazz fusion, along with In A Silent Way)
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Weekend forum traffic is always a bit slower, fool. :lol :lol
Apparently so are Thursdays! ;D
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Birth Of The Cool, for me.
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We move on...
Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic
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I can't remember when I first heard this album (later 90's, I think), but I was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. Even though I knew it was highly-regarded, I had reached fatigue with this band thanks to their endless stream of 90's hits, the majority of which didn't do a whole lot for me, but this record made me a fan again. Deep cuts like You See Me Crying, No More No More and Uncle Salty are some of my favorite songs by the band, and of course Sweet Emotion and Walk This Way are timeless classics for a reason. Good, good stuff. :hat
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I know a few of their 70s hits, though I only like one of them. But couldnt say what songs are on what album. Anyway, they suck. Not sure how they survived as long as they did, especially prior to having videos of scantily clad women prolonged their career.
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I rank Toys 6th out of the first 6 albums.
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I couldn't stand blues - based stuff ( mostly ) way back when ( 1980's ). After 30 some years I started to rethink my attitude toward songs like " Toys in the Attic " and some others from them. Then I watched the Kansas documentary a few years ago , the story about AS cutting power on a Kansas show re- lit my " no thanks " attitude toward them. Too many other good bands from any era for that nonsense.
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See, I'm the opposite of Kev. I first heard Aerosmith with their ... "resurgence" via the duet with Run DMC. Wasn't a big fan of that, but then Permanent Vacation came out, and the singles were good enough to get me to purchase it. I love Pump and Get a Grip, and got the Pandora's Box set. Wasn't impressed with it. Ultimately, I was never motivated enough to go into their pre-Perm Vaca catalogue.
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I went through a large chunk of Aerosmith's catalog a while back and my favorite period of theirs was Pump - Get A Grip - Nine Lives, but that was also when I first discovered them as a kid.
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I think Toys is a good Aerosmith album (as is Rocks, which came out a year later). My first Aerosmith album I ever listened to was Live! Bootleg btw (that's worth checking out too IMHO)
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See, I'm the opposite of Kev. I first heard Aerosmith with their ... "resurgence" via the duet with Run DMC. Wasn't a big fan of that, but then Permanent Vacation came out, and the singles were good enough to get me to purchase it. I love Pump and Get a Grip, and got the Pandora's Box set. Wasn't impressed with it. Ultimately, I was never motivated enough to go into their pre-Perm Vaca catalogue.
Actually, that is when I first heard of Aerosmith as well. I didn't hear the original Walk This Way till years later.
I never actually owned a studio album by this band until I got Toys in the Attic in the later 90's, so all I knew for years by them were the hits. Some of those hits in the 90's were so blech, like Amazing, Pink, Blind Man and I Don't Want to Miss a Thing, the last of which has apparently held up as one of their three or four most well known songs ever. *cue the vomit emoticon*
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Aerosmith on drugs > Aerosmith clean.
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Listening to Aerosmith on drugs> listening to Aerosmith clean
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:lol
Tim's youth > Tim's later years.
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What 70's rock isn't better with partaking in a little something...? :hat :hat
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:lol
Tim's youth > Tim's later years.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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The Doobie Brothers - The Captain and Me
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The Doobies are, for the most part, a greatest hits-type band for me, and what hits they are, but this is the one studio album by them that I own, and what an album is. Any classic fan is going to know China Grove and Long Train Runnin', the latter of which is my favorite by the band, but the deep cuts on this album are stellar. Dark Eyed Cajun Woman and Clear As the Driven Snow are both tremendous songs, and I am really high on Evil Woman and Natural Thing as well. I didn't get this album till maybe a year or two ago, but I am glad that I did. Very worthy of its classic album status!
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Not really in my wheelhouse but I did own The Best Of Vol 1 when I was a kid.
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I only know the radio hits. Decent enough stuff, but they never wow'd me enough to dig deeper into them.
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That album made my Top 50. Grew up listening to Doobies (both eras) as my Dad was big into them and they just stuck.
And that's an invite for a TAC edit if I have ever seen one :lol
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You have one too many "T"s in that sentence.
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When I think of the term Dad Rock, no other band, in my opinion, defines the term better than the Doobies. Every time I hear a song of theirs, it makes me want to get into a 70’s muscle car, roll the windows down, take it to the streets and start rockin’ down the highway. They were one of the few bands my dad and his brothers all agreed on, and a road trip staple in my childhood. I vividly remember how excited my dad was when the classic lineup got back together in the late 80’s. I also remember how much my dad loved the early 80’s farewell show. We watched that constantly. The Doobies knew how to rock and wrote some great tunes, and that riff on China Grove is one of the best of all time.
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Really good album. I really like without you and clear as the driven snow.
Another good album by them is ‘what we’re once vices are now habits’. The album cover shows the band in a live concert setting, but the album is a studio album that flows really well.
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Another Park Another Sunday is the only deep cut from that album that really grabbed me. Daughters of the Sea was pretty good, too.
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You have one too many "T"s in that sentence.
Thanks Tim :D
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Catching up.
Not familiar with Bitches Brew. I'll try and remedy that this week.
Toys in the Attic is a stone cold classic with stellar deep cuts. This and Rocks were on steady rotation in my teenage years and both have that overwhelming nostalgia element that I never tire of.
The Doobie's I've always enjoyed but not enough to actually purchase any of their albums.
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We move on...
Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic
This is one of those albums that was legendary, but Aerosmith was never more than a "hits" band for me. I don't know half the songs on this album, and the two biggest songs didn't endure for me. The title track is, IMO, the best song on the album.
The Doobie Brothers - The Captain and Me
The Doobies were the band on What's Happenin'? and that's about it. If I know any of their songs besides China Groove, I can't think of them.
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Rockin Down the Highway?
Black Water?
Listen to the Music?
Takin it to the Streets?
They've got a handful that are still classic rock radio staples.
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Rockin Down the Highway?
Black Water?
Listen to the Music?
Takin it to the Streets?
They've got a handful that are still classic rock radio staples.
Black Water for sure. Takin' It to the Streets, maybe. The other two don't ring a bell, but I can't say for sure.
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The Doobies were the band on What's Happenin'?
Damn is the first reference to What's Happening in dtf.org history??
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The Doobies were the band on What's Happenin'?
Damn is the first reference to What's Happening in dtf.org history??
What's Happening! The Thread. Coming soon.
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The Doobies were the band on What's Happenin'?
Damn is the first reference to What's Happening in dtf.org history??
What's Happening! The Thread. Coming soon.
It's a rerun anyway.
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Great album from the Doobies.
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The Doobies were the band on What's Happenin'?
Damn is the first reference to What's Happening in dtf.org history??
What's Happening! The Thread. Coming soon.
It's a rerun anyway.
Hey, HEY, hey!
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Oh man, I remember that episode!
Many years later, it took me forever to figure out what the song was where they play the instrumental section and the guy is bashing the gong. The song is I Cheat the Hangman from Stampede. Really nice deep cut. :tup :tup
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I discovered What's Happening Now first. Then years later found out about What's Happening. I feel like I watched it some but other than being able to name the main three guys I cannot recall a thing about it.
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I discovered What's Happening Now first. Then years later found out about What's Happening. I feel like I watched it some but other than being able to name the main three guys I cannot recall a thing about it.
The show only lasted 3 seasons. The funny thing is that the three main actors were 27, 25 and 16 at the time the show premiered. It's weird enough to have actors in their mid- to late 20s playing high school students (although a running joke on the show was that Rerun had been in high school for many more than four years and, during the Doobies' episode, Patrick Simmons mentioned that he remembered attending class with Rerun), but to be playing next to a kid who actually was in high school seems awfully odd in retrospect.
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Black Sabbath - Paranoid
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A classic in every sense of the word, despite the crappy cover. It's funny because the riff to Iron Man was the first thing that made me take notice of Black Sabbath back in the early 90's, but it's become one of those good songs I rarely listen to these days. On the flip side, overplayed classics like War Pigs and the title track never get old; I still crank those like it's the first time hearing them. And of course, my two favorites, Fairies Wear Boots and Hand of Doom, are what take it from being a good album to a great one. I am also very high on Planet Caravan. The mood and atmosphere in that song is just incredible, and their ability to do songs like that so early on is one of the many things that made them so unique. Terrific record. :metal :metal
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The funny thing is that the three main actors were 27, 25 and 16 at the time the show premiered.
That's crazy. Decided to look it up but before I got there I knew it had to be Dwayne who was the 16 year old.
Never got in to Sabbath. When I was heavy in to JCP/NWA in the 80s, nothing blew my mind quite like the Road Warriors coming to the ring to the sounds of Iron Man.
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The Doobies were the band on What's Happenin'?
Damn is the first reference to What's Happening in dtf.org history??
What's Happening! The Thread. Coming soon.
It's a rerun anyway.
Hey, HEY, hey!
It's FAAAAAAAAT Albert!!
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Paranoid was probably my indoctrination to true classic Heavy Metal. Not sure why I never dove deep into Sabbath after discovering this album, but for some reason I didn't - and regret it. This is a deadly album. I'd say Electric Funeral is my fave outside of the big-3. I ought to spin this later today, as it's been ages since I have listened to it.
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Black Sabbath - Paranoid
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A classic in every sense of the word, despite the crappy cover. It's funny because the riff to Iron Man was the first thing that made me take notice of Black Sabbath back in the early 90's, but it's become one of those good songs I rarely listen to these days. On the flip side, overplayed classics like War Pigs and the title track never get old; I still crank those like it's the first time hearing them. And of course, my two favorites, Fairies Wear Boots and Hand of Doom, are what take it from being a good album to a great one. I am also very high on Planet Caravan. The mood and atmosphere in that song is just incredible, and their ability to do songs like that so early on is one of the many things that made them so unique. Terrific record. :metal :metal
Absolute classic, even though this is the BS album i listen to the least nowadays, since i'm kind of burned out on most of it. But yeah, classic for a reason, great fucking record.
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The most dangerous boy in my 3rd grade class introduced me to this most dangerous of albums. We were friends for many years because of that!
And of course, my two favorites, Fairies Wear Boots and Hand of Doom, are what take it from being a good album to a great one.
I share your love of Hand of Doom, as we've discussed recently. But don't forget...
I'd say Electric Funeral is my fave outside of the big-3. I ought to spin this later today, as it's been ages since I have listened to it.
:2metal::2metal:
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One of two Sabbath albums I actually own. Good record. Sabbath has never been heavy or fast enough for my taste but I like this one.
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Add this to my long list between this and the 80s thread of bands I enjoy but don't actually own any albums yet know probably half the songs off this and really enjoy it. They played 6/8 of the tracks on their final tour that I saw and was surprised how good they overall really sounded. And yea, like Kat, they are bit plodding for me to truly love and ever get into more than I probably already have, but they are iconic.
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#SpinningNow
Generals gathered in their maaaaaassseess!!!
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Generals gathered in their maaaaaassseess!!!
:metal :metal
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One of two Sabbath albums I actually own. Good record. Sabbath has never been heavy or fast enough for my taste but I like this one.
HEADLINE: Euro Power Metal Fan Says Sabbath Not Heavy Enough :biggrin:
I understand what you mean but was just thinking about the response it might get from a Sabbath fan :D
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Black Sabbath - Paranoid
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My intro to classic Sabbath was by way of Ozzy's Speak of the Devil, so I knew Fairies, War Pigs, Iron Man and Paranoid from that album. By the time I went and got the album itself, I was actually a little disappointed because the SotD versions seemed to have a lot more energy. I've since warmed up to it, but those four songs are about as deep as I go into this album. Planet Caravan seems like the ultimate drug trip song, and I probably haven't listened to it more than a couple times in my life. Electric Funeral is ok. Hand of Doom...meh. Rat Salad...whatever. I always wanted to like classic Sabbath better than I ever did.
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I remember borrowing Paranoid from a friend when I was in the 7th grade. Iron Man is and has always been the song here for me. War Pigs is amazing as well. Other than Fairies Wear Boots, I don't care for much else here.
I did end up getting We Sold Our Souls shortly after, but I was literally out of college when I dove in with both feet in the Ozzy Era.
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No denying their place in history, but other than just a few songs (all of which are on this album), I was never able to get into Sabbath very much.
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No denying their place in history, but other than just a few songs (all of which are on this album), I was never able to get into Sabbath very much.
I would agree speaking of Ozzy era Sabbath, but it actually was very easy for me to get into the Dio and Ian Gillan eras of Sabbath (love these to this day), maybe I will like the Ozzy era as well, who knows
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Nah, never liked Dio either.
Probably never heard any of the Gillian stuff.
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Nah, never liked Dio either.
Probably never heard any of the Gillian stuff.
that was the Born Again album in 1983 (weird to call it an "era", but IIRC Tony Iommi did, so...)
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I haven't read this entire thread, so it's probably been mentioned. Boston's debut album is still to this day one of the best sounding records I have ever heard! :tup
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Listen to hefdaddy42 in all things.
No denying their place in history, but other than just a few songs (all of which are on this album), I was never able to get into Sabbath very much.
Except this^
Nah, never liked Dio either.
Or this^
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#SpinningNow
Generals gathered in their maaaaaassseess!!!
I LOVE the guitar and bass on the intro (with the sirene in the background). I have an edit i made once of just the instrumental parts (not that I don't love Ozzy, but there are better vocals/vocal melodies on that record, like "Fairies...").
Sabbath is a pillar for me. All eras (yes, I even like the Martin and Gillan years).
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Listen to hefdaddy42 in all things.
No denying their place in history, but other than just a few songs (all of which are on this album), I was never able to get into Sabbath very much.
Except this^
Nah, never liked Dio either.
Or this^
To be fair, I didn't denigrate them. Just saying they did nothing for me personally.
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Queen - A Night at the Opera
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The 4th album by Queen is their most classic and highest-regarded album, and for good reason: it is an amazing musical achievement. Bohemian Rhapsody, now arguably the most popular rock song ever, is the biggie of course, but the rest of the album is money as well. If you want rock, you've got Sweet Lady and I'm in Love with My Car. If you want epic, you've got the aforementioned Bohemian Rhapsody and The Prophet's Song. If you want melodic gems, you've got Love of My Life and You're My Best Friend. If you want an acoustic foot-stomper, you've got '39. And if you want a little anger, or even a lot, you've got Death on Two Legs. Even songs that some would describe as "out there" on a rock album, Bad Company and Seaside Rendezvous, are terrific on this record.
Freddie Mercury. Brian May. John Deacon. Roger Taylor.
Legends.
Legendary record.
We're not worthy.
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Got this CD as a treat forgetting my wisdomteerh pulled. Which was right around the time of the Freddy tribute concert. Listened to it a ton even though there were a few songs I didn't care for. And the only Queen CD I've ever owned. Rarely listen to them these days and what in do listen to isn't from this album. File it under Retired Favorites.
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Queen - A Night at the Opera
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The 4th album by Queen is their most classic and highest-regarded album, and for good reason: it is an amazing musical achievement. Bohemian Rhapsody, now arguably the most popular rock song ever, is the biggie of course, but the rest of the album is money as well. If you want rock, you've got Sweet Lady and I'm in Love with My Car. If you want epic, you've got the aforementioned Bohemian Rhapsody and The Prophet's Song. If you want melodic gems, you've got Love of My Life and You're My Best Friend. If you want an acoustic foot-stomper, you've got '39. And if you want a little anger, or even a lot, you've got Death on Two Legs. Even songs that some would describe as "out there" on a rock album, Bad Company and Seaside Rendezvous, are terrific on this record.
Freddie Mercury. Brian May. John Deacon. Roger Taylor.
Legends.
Legendary record.
We're not worthy.
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
one of the greatest (70s and otherwise) albums ever, and probably their best ever as well. This one and Innuendo are my personal favourites although I like all their records.
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Definitely a requirement to be in the library of any Classic Rock listener, or DTF Fogey. No duds, excellent lineup top to bottom. You described it quite aptly Kev. Albums nowadays just doesn't carry the diversity and uniqueness from track-to-track that bands gave us in the 70s.
Now I want to spin this too!
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The Prophet's Song is one of their 2-3 best songs ever.
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The Prophet's Song is one of their 2-3 best songs ever.
as is Bo Rhap IMHO
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The Prophet's Song is one of their 2-3 best songs ever.
as is Bo Rhap IMHO
Let's put on the podium also The March of the Black Queen and let's be done with it
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This one and Innuendo are my personal favourites although I like all their records.
Innunedo is in my Queen top 3 (along with A Night at the Opera and Sheer Heart Attack). :tup :tup
Definitely a requirement to be in the library of any Classic Rock listener, or DTF Fogey. No duds, excellent lineup top to bottom. You described it quite aptly Kev. Albums nowadays just doesn't carry the diversity and uniqueness from track-to-track that bands gave us in the 70s.
Now I want to spin this too!
In the case of Queen, the major advantage was that they all came in with different approaches musically, rather than all four liking and then writing in the same musical style/genre.
The Prophet's Song is one of their 2-3 best songs ever.
as is Bo Rhap IMHO
Let's put on the podium also The March of the Black Queen and let's be done with it
Nah. Prophet's Song and March of the Black Queen are both good, but neither would be in my Queen top 10. March of the Black Queen would be top 20, but Prophet's Song would not. As much as I love A Night at the Opera, the repeating "and now I know" part of Prophet's Song is kind of annoying and goes on way too long.
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A Night at the Opera made a huge impression on me when it came out. I'll never forget the first time I heard BoRap on the radio beginning with the lush harmony of "Is this the real life". Even as many times as I've heard it, it still grabs my attention and holds it through the entire song. It's the music equivalent of The Shawshank Redemption.
Then I bought the album and was blown away by the songcraft and diversity. Death on Two Legs, Lazing, I'm in Love with My Car, '39, Sweet Lady, Seaside... and that's just side one! :lol Even my mother liked the album and would sometimes come to my room and listen to it with me. She's an opera trained mezzo soprano and was fascinated with the vocal performance and experimentation.
The only song I'm not crazy about is Sweet Lady. It's good and all, and is much needed in its spot on the record, but it doesn't stick with me like all the other songs.
Anyway, and important album in the history of rock and an important album in my music-loving life.
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. It's the music equivalent of The Shawshank Redemption.
I don't think Bohemian Rhapsody is overrated at all.
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I had Queen's Greatest Hits when I was a kid and I loved it. But I never got into them. The Lovely Mrs TAC loves them, so I ended up buying her all of the CD's and have heard most of them.
AMATO is a great album, but it's not really my thing. But what stands out about them is their versatility. And their production.
How can albums with today's technology sound like such crap? (Yes, I know, a discussion for another day/thread)
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Given their brief connection in the early 80's, it makes sense to go from Queen to this next artist...
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
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I didn't really dig into much of Bowie's work until the mid 00's, and when I heard this, having only been familiar with Ziggy Stardust and Suffragette City, I was underwhelmed by the first few songs and then I kind of zoned out on the rest and never gave it a second listen. Oops. Then, in 2016 after Bowie passed away, I finally went back and gave this some fresh listens and was stunned at what I had been missing. I literally listened to this once a day for months back in the winter and spring of 2016 (IIRC). I still see what it didn't knock my socks off initially, as I find the first two songs, Five Years and Soul Love, merely "very good," but once Moonage Daydream kicks in, the album kicks into high regard and is nothing but pure greatness until the final crescendo in Rock and Roll Suicide hits.
Bowie is one of those artists who music is a bit too strange for me at times, and some of his well known songs are somewhat bland and/or crappy (see: Changes), but this record was slammed out of the park. A major classic, and one of the best records of the 70's.
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:corn
Couldn't tell you anything about this.
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. It's the music equivalent of The Shawshank Redemption.
I don't think Bohemian Rhapsody is overrated at all.
Oh, you. :loser:
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My problem with ANATO is the problem I have with Queen in general; it's varied and diverse, but almost randomly so. I love the rockers, I love the ballads, but it sort of ping-pongs for me between the two and for me it's hard to get a rhythm going.
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Couldn't name more than 5 Bowie songs. Never caught my interest.
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My problem with ANATO is the problem I have with Queen in general; it's varied and diverse, but almost randomly so. I love the rockers, I love the ballads, but it sort of ping-pongs for me between the two and for me it's hard to get a rhythm going.
Yeah, I agree with that take.
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My problem with ANATO is the problem I have with Queen in general; it's varied and diverse, but almost randomly so. I love the rockers, I love the ballads, but it sort of ping-pongs for me between the two and for me it's hard to get a rhythm going.
Yeah, I agree with that take.
Me too, as much as I like diversity and as influential and good as ANATO is, it doesn't really flow well as an album imo.
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The only song I'm not crazy about is Sweet Lady. It's good and all, and is much needed in its spot on the record, but it doesn't stick with me like all the other songs.
I've often wondered if the drums on that song were very much a product of their time and if the song would've sounded much better without the rigid, stompy, almost childish sounding drum beat that goes throughout the verse.
It's the only poor song on an otherwise stellar record.
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I was only ever a 'best of' fan wrt Bowie.
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I was only ever a 'best of' fan wrt Bowie.
I think many of his hits being so underwhelming is why it took me so long to really dig into Bowie.
I always liked the three hits from the Let's Dance record growing up, and Space Oddity was always great, but the mainstays from the 70's I always heard on classic rock radio...
Changes...blech.
Rebel Rebel...decent.
Young Americans...pretty good.
Fame...awful.
And since no one in the various circle of friends I ran with in the 90's and early 00's was much of a Bowie fan, I had no one in my ear telling me to check out this album or that album. Only when I got online and got some recommendations from some peeps whose opinions I trusted did I finally give his discography its due attention.
The only song I'm not crazy about is Sweet Lady. It's good and all, and is much needed in its spot on the record, but it doesn't stick with me like all the other songs.
It's the only poor song on an otherwise stellar record.
I like Sweet Lady, but I don't love it. I would call A Night at the Opera their best album by a wide distance had it had a classic May rocker like Tie Your Mother Down, Fat Bottomed Girls or Hammer to Fall, rather than an average one like Sweet Lady.
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Bowie is complicated. This record has some really great songs, however I rarely spin a Bowie record nowadays. He's been one of the most influential musicians in the history of music because he always sought to innovate which provided some great stuff but also some more than forgettable songs. My favorite album by him is Earthling
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Listen to hefdaddy42 in all things.
No denying their place in history, but other than just a few songs (all of which are on this album), I was never able to get into Sabbath very much.
Except this^
Nah, never liked Dio either.
Or this^
Yeah, I'm down with that analysis, Chad. :tup
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Jeff Beck - Blow by Blow
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This record was sort of my introduction to jazz fusion, and going in I didn't know it was going to be so prevalent on the album; I was expecting an instrumental guitar hero-type record, but was pleasantly surprised when it was so much more. Jeff Beck's playing, of course, is off the charts, but the atmosphere and mood throughout this album is so chill and so bad ass. He has other great records, but I don't think he has ever topped or equaled this one. This is a perfect record.
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All I remember about this one is that I have it on one of those 2-on-1 cassettes with Wired. I certainly can't recall disliking it so should revisit.
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This one and Guitar Shop are the only two Jeff Beck records I like, everything else didn't grab me save for the occasional song here and there.
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I like Truth and Beck-ola better, but that, Wired and There And Back are pretty good. He's always sort of better when he has a foil to bounce off of though.
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No lie, I thought the artist Beck was Jeff Beck this whole time. I thought I knew a Jeff Beck song (Waking Light) but it's by Beck. Dafuq. Is this what TAC feels like all the time? :lol
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No lie, I thought the artist Beck was Jeff Beck this whole time. I thought I knew a Jeff Beck song (Waking Light) but it's by Beck. Dafuq. Is this what TAC feels like all the time? :lol
To me, that's like confusing instant Lipton Iced Tea with a Long Island Iced Tea made with top shelf vodka, gin, rum and Don Julio tequila.
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No lie, I thought the artist Beck was Jeff Beck this whole time.
Funny, I was going to say something like this. I ultimately found out they were different people, but I couldn't distinguish them in any meaningful way outside of one being a virtuoso guitarist and one did that stupid Loser song.
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I had my first listen to Blow by Blow this morning and I dig it. Previously, I've not thought JB was all that great but this has changed my mind. :tup
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If I've ever heard any song on this album I don't know it, but I feel like I need to listen to a song called "Constipated Duck" just for the name. I know of the song "Freeway Jam" because it was transcribed in one of the first issues of Guitar for the Practicing Musician (Feb. 1984) and was republished in the first "Classics" edition (winter 1987). Jeff Beck was one of those guys who was always mentioned among the guitar greats, but I never knew (and still don't really know) anything he had done.
When I first heard about Beck, I assumed it was Jeff Beck performing under his last name only or was a group he formed.
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I had my first listen to Blow by Blow this morning and I dig it. Previously, I've not thought JB was all that great but this has changed my mind. :tup
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My cousin is gaga over Beck. I've liked Blow by Blow a lot but never bought it.
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No lie, I thought the artist Beck was Jeff Beck this whole time. I thought I knew a Jeff Beck song (Waking Light) but it's by Beck. Dafuq. Is this what TAC feels like all the time? :lol
:lol
Yeah, pretty much! :lol
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C'mon Tim...............lift your game.
This was the perfect opp for a classic TAC Review.
Blow By Blow blows ;D
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I love Jeff Beck (Truth is a classic LP) but I'll be the first to admit that he's a genius plagued by bad decisions. He's not a writer in the way that Van Halen or Hendrix is, he's an interpreter (more like Page in that way) but he's always seemed to be a half-step off. Instead of Plant, he has Rod Stewart, who's great, but not Plant. Instead of getting in with a Bruford/Wetton (like Fripp) or an Emerson/Palmer (like Lake) he's sort of off in cool jazz land or with Tim Bogert and Carmine Appice (great musicians, but not Bruford, Wetton, Emerson, or Palmer). Into the 80's, he sort of veered off again into I'm not sure what I'd call "Flash", but it was great PLAYING that just SOUNDED atrocious.
If you have any doubts about his abilities, though, get the live album he did at Ronnie Scott's with Tal Wilkenfeld and Vinnie Colaiuta.
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If you have any doubts about his abilities, though, get the live album he did at Ronnie Scott's with Tal Wilkenfeld and Vinnie Colaiuta.
Funny how tastes work, but I would never recommend that record. Imo Jeff's mostly just noodling along with only some basic resemblance to the original melodies and his jamming isn't really that interesting. Of course Wilkenfield and Colaiuta provide a serious groove, but her bass solos are of the type I just can't stand, just more noodling on top of the noodling.
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That's not an unfair criticism, but his albums are all very... dated, for lack of a better word. Truth is a muddy, 1970-era hard blues/rock record, and it sounds it. Stewart is almost overmodulated at times, and it's a dense record. Blow By Blow is a mid-70's jazz-ish record, and sounds it. Some of it sounds like background music for the Rockford Files. Flash is ... I don't know what Flash it, but it SOUNDS like 1985.
At least that Ronnie Scott's record is a more pure sounding record. It's very immediate, and you get a good feel - noodling or not - what Beck REALLY sounds like.
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I saw the DVD at a friend's a few years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. Never bought it myself, though.
Wired, the follow-up to Blow by Blow, is nearly as good as it predecessor, and in the same style, for anyone interested.
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The thing with Jeff Beck is, that I love his playing style, his phrasing, his sounds, how he can make each note sound different and make it count. But he's not a song writer, he needs collaborators and sometimes he has good ones and sometimes not so good ones. A lot of his records suffer from that imo.
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I love Jeff Beck (Truth is a classic LP) but I'll be the first to admit that he's a genius plagued by bad decisions.
Bad decisions?
I'm not a fan and know very little of his work outside of the Yardbirds, but the guy has had a successful 50-plus year career as a musician, presumably playing music he loves, has played with pretty much everyone who is anyone in the rock world (from Mich Jagger to Stanley Clarke to Kate Bush), has twice been inducted into the RRHOF, and is generally regarded as one of the all-time guitar greats. I wish I had mad "bad decisions" such as these.
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I get your point, but no one is confusing Hendrix or Page or Gilmour with a So-Cal hipster trading in post-modern irony.
Does he have a Stairway To Heaven, a Comfortably Numb, a Purple Haze? Nope.
But if you know the story of the Yardbirds, and the immediate aftermath of that, you know that "Truth" was SUPPOSED to be his "Led Zeppelin I", but it was usurped by Page, Plant, et al. Those are his peers.
I'm not saying he's bad; I love the guy (and even LIKE Flash, even though I keep ragging on it) but he's not the first guy named when you talk about the great rock guitarists of the late 60's/early 70's/80's.
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He's more of a musician's musician, (almost) every guitar player knows him and praises him. The general public doesn't know who Jeff Beck is, he's lacking that big hit that others had. And even here he gets confused with that other artist named Beck.
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Yeah. What he said. ^^^ :)
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I would agree with that assessment. Even to many who remember him from the Yardbirds, he has seen as by far the least successful of the three (behind Page and Clapton). Not only does he not have that one big song that "everyone" knows, but does he have anything that is played on classic rock radio? I don't think I ever heard him played on the radio back in the day.
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....does he have anything that is played on classic rock radio? I don't think I ever heard him played on the radio back in the day.
This came to my mind as well. I cannot recall one song of his getting any airplay in my market.
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If you have any doubts about his abilities, though, get the live album he did at Ronnie Scott's with Tal Wilkenfeld and Vinnie Colaiuta.
This for sure. Great project.
But Blow by Blow is awesome, too. Probably my favorite Beck album.
But I don't think he should be compared to guys like Page or Hendrix. He didn't have hit songs, he had great albums/projects. The better comparison would be to some of the other jazz/fusion players like Al Di Meola or John McLaughlin, IMO.
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Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
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Outside of their 80's hits, I didn't really get into this band until I saw the live show, called The Dance, on VH1 in the late 90's, and was then able to appreciate their 70's material more. This is obviously a classic, and one of the highest selling records ever. Timeless classics like Don't Stop, Go Your Own Way and The Chain are good tunes and have all aged well, and I am really fond of deeper cuts like Second Hand News (if track 1 can be considered a deep cut) and Gold Dust Woman, the latter of which is my favorite from this record. Good record from a good band.
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I think I know Go Your Own Way but can't really comment on Fleetwood Mac other than that some of tbeir 80s hits got on my nerves really quick.
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....does he have anything that is played on classic rock radio? I don't think I ever heard him played on the radio back in the day.
This came to my mind as well. I cannot recall one song of his getting any airplay in my market.
I remember hearing 'Led Boots' off of Wired on the radio when it came out. It's a great track and the only one of his I would probably recognize when played.
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Rumours was a light rock album that was important to me when it came out but I don't ever find time to listen to anymore. I may have heard these tunes too many times, me thinks.
Gold Dust Woman is the real stand out to me.
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I missed this thread over the weekend. Rumours is an awesome record. It's the only Fleetwood Mac album I know, and mainly because my mom had it on cassette and would play it in the car when I was a little kid, so it takes me back. I can't believe it's their eleventh album though. To put out a record of such quality that far into your career - 11 records in 9 years - is insane, what a different time it was.
A cousin of mine who's a few years older than me tried listening to Rumours several years ago because her husband kept hounding her to listen to some of the all-time great classic rock albums and she just didn't get it, which still makes me sad. I figured Rumours is an album most people can enjoy regardless of whether or not they're a rock fan.
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Fleetwood Mac is light rock, but it's the gift that keeps on giving. Some of the little throwaway licks from Lindsey Buckingham are GOLD. Plus the songcraft is almost unparalleled. The only thing I can do without is some of the more sappy Chrissie McVie songs.
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Fleetwood Mac: The dad rock band your mom likes.
Any time I think of this record, or someone mentions this record, the overwhelming thought I have is coke. These guys did so much of it while making this record that it must have funded a coup or two in Colombia.
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There are a lot of records that deserve the sort of reputation they have, but for some reason, this one is different for me. I just don't get some of the common wisdom about it. I mean, most of it is true (Stevie herself will tell you that "GOLD dust" is poetic license, and in fact, the "dust" was very white and very powdery) but this record is so much more.
Some of that "light rock" or "dad rock" was a basic necessity, a gloss over work that would otherwise be suffocating or maudlin, given the personal relationships in the band at the time. I can't imagine breaking up with my long-time girlfriend, then asking her to sing "Go Your Own Way". Or having been broken up, her asking ME to help elevate "Gold Dust Woman".
I don't know if it's my "favorite" (in fact, I know it's not) but it might be the most IMPRESSIVE record in my collection.
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Say what you want about Dreams, Go Your Own Way, and Gold Dust Woman. For me, this album is all about Second Hand News and You Make Loving Fun. :tup
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Definitely a landmark in 70s rock and deserving of all the accolades it receives.
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Say what you want about Dreams, Go Your Own Way, and Gold Dust Woman. For me, this album is all about Second Hand News and You Make Loving Fun. :tup
The vocal in that song... :tup
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I think I know Go Your Own Way but can't really comment on Fleetwood Mac other than that some of tbeir 80s hits got on my nerves really quick.
Gypsy was my favorite FM song growing up and remains in that spot, and I always loved Hold Me as well.
From Tango in the Night, I loved Big Love, but was iffy on both Little Lies and Everywhere. I don't recall if Seven Wonders got played a lot of MTV, but I saw the video a few years ago and really like that one now.
Seems like the Christine songs are usually more miss than hit for me (I am lukewarm on Say You Love Me and You Make Loving Fun at best).
Gimme the Lindsey and Stevie songs. :hat
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I own Rumours, but I don't know it well. Don't Stop, Go Your Own Way and The Chain are great songs. I might be familiar with a couple other songs, but I really don't recognize at least five of the songs by name. Nothing great, but I understand why it's a landmark and highly influential album.
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Yes - Fragile
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Fragile_%28Yes_album%29_cover_art.jpg)
Talk about a game-changer. I can only imagine how many heads exploded when this album hit record stores in the fall of 1971. Chris Squire's thunderous bass riffs alone can make your change your shorts every few minutes, but the entire band is on fire from the start to the finish, and it is worth noting that this was Rick Wakeman's first album with the band. All four full band songs are major classics, especially Roundabout, a classic rock mainstay, and Heart of the Sunrise, a prog fan's wet dream. Throw in some really cool solo pieces like Mood for a Day and The Fish, and it's no wonder that nearly five decades later, this is still considered one of the best progressive albums ever.
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I am of the strong belief that if Roundabout wasn't such a colossal radio hit, Fragile would not be held in so high regard. The four band tracks are fantastic, but the album is a bit uneven. I think The Yes Album, and Close to the Edge are FAR stronger.
EDIT - It is what it is because it's "the album that broke the band" into mainstream....but it's really just an OK album. I feel the same about 2112.
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I'm with jammin. Fragile has never been a favorite for me. I will say that Heart Of The Sunrise is the track that grabbed my attention and pulled me into classic Yes. Speaking of 'Classic Yes', the live version of Roundabout on that little hits CD is my definitive version of the song.
I would also take The Yes Album over this. Of course, Drama is my favorite.
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The way I see it, the keyboard, Anderson and drum solo songs are all just okay, but they literally take up less than 4 minutes of the album, and the remaining 37 minutes plus is so amazing that I can forgive those three very short tracks.
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Really great record but, like the others said, a bit uneven. The four full songs are stellar, Wakeman's and Bruford's pieces are forgettable but kinda hinder the flow a little bit. Mood For A Day is far weaker than The Clap, Long Distance Runaround is okay and The Fish is interesting but overstays its welcome imo.
So, all in all great record with some flaws. And I probably like The Yes Album and Close To The Edge better, but not by much.
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Fragile is the very definition of "70's Classic Album". This album was seriously innovative at the time and I think the popularity of Roundabout changed program directors idea of what was acceptable for radio. This paved the way for other art rock acts to get some radio play. I love it. A fun and enjoyable experience every time. My favorite Yes listen.
I'm kind of surprised at my reaction to hearing even the mild criticism from this forum; "Y'all can open your pie-hole just as soon as you create music 1/1,000,000 as good as this." :lol
Seems like blasphemy.
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Listening to this album for the first time after I've been meaning to for a very long time... I still hate LDR and Roundabout because of the singer, who is the weakest link of this band and it's not even close. The interludes are nice but Five per Cent for Nothing is almost a waste of time, I really don't like super short tracks like that. Mood For A Day is lovely. Heart of the Sunrise is where it's really at. This is a good album with some mighty keyboard and bass playing but I'd like it a whole lot more if it was instrumental. The singer brings it down big time. I'm guessing it's the same guy on Going For The One - he has better melodies and just sounds better on that one, imo (Wonderous Stories = wow).
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I still hate LDR and Roundabout because of the singer, who is the weakest link of this band and it's not even close
:omg:
Seems like blasphemy.
This doesn't seem like blasphemy, this is blasphemy. :censored ;)
To each his own but I think Jon Anderson and his voice was an integral part of Yes' music, not to mention his creativeness and driving force behind the scenes. Just like Geddy Lee's singing was integral for Rush. You may not like it but I think it wouldn't have worked the same way with another singer.
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Don't get me wrong - me disliking his voice is not the same as saying he doesn't fit the band. His voice is the #1 easiest way to identify a 'Yes' song to a non-Yes fan, imo. I just think he has absolutely zero strength to his voice, it's light, thin, airy, weak.
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I think the solo piece idea is really cool but I just wish Wakeman’s and Bruford’s were better. The 4 actual songs are pretty high quality but I never rated HotS as high as others. Outside of the intro, the rest of the song feels a bit like a letdown. Miracle of Life from Union does the same thing. The real standout for me is South Side which is probably my favorite <10 minute song of the ABWHS lineup. Overall, it’s probably the weakest of the big 3 (TYA and CTTE) for me. It’s amazing that a band was able to get away with an album like this at one point in time.
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I am of the strong belief that if Roundabout wasn't such a colossal radio hit, Fragile would not be held in so high regard. The four band tracks are fantastic, but the album is a bit uneven. I think The Yes Album, and Close to the Edge are FAR stronger.
EDIT - It is what it is because it's "the album that broke the band" into mainstream....but it's really just an OK album. I feel the same about 2112.
I think it's a half-step more than that: it's the album that brought the classic lineup together for the first time. It was the addition of Wakeman, as much as "Roundabout" that elevated them.
I actually prefer this to Close To The Edge, for various reasons. I'm a huge fan of "South Side Of The Sky" and "Heart Of The Sunrise" (that's a top five Yes song for me, no question). I also got this cassette when I was younger and would listen to it on my Walkman while cutting the lawn or shoveling snow (along with Vol. 4 and We Sold Our Soul by Sabbath). I also like the "We Have Heaven" piece and how it fits into the record (the footsteps and the closing of the door at the end of "Heart...")
I LIKE CttE, but don't love it. "And You And I" is by far the highlight of that record, and the rest is pretty good. But just "pretty good".
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To me, Fragile, The Yes Album and Close to the Edge are all so strong that any could be my favorite Yes album on any given day (with Relayer, 90125 and Talk in the next tier below).
Jon Anderson's voice is angelic and perfect for the band.
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I just saw Jon Anderson (and had the pleasure of meeting him before the show) in a small 500 seat theater. He played almost two hours, half the set was Yes songs, and he DID sound like an angel (some of the tiff between him and Squire/Howe was that Anderson couldn't sing a set of Yes songs anymore; that's been disproved, at least in my observation).
(https://i.imgur.com/yhzTPeP.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/PM3wmLU.jpg)
EDIT: And yes, I got my favorite album of all time signed by the guy that wrote and sang most of it.
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That's awesome Bill!!
So you brought the album (cover) top the concert with you? Does that mean you had to hold it for the entire show?
Was that a meet n greet you paid for, or was he just out meeting people?
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Great show as well. I saw the show in Mass. He still sounds like he did earlier in his career. Crazy to hear him sing like that.
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Yes - Fragile
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Fragile_%28Yes_album%29_cover_art.jpg)
Talk about a game-changer. I can only imagine how many heads exploded when this album hit record stores in the fall of 1971. Chris Squire's thunderous bass riffs alone can make your change your shorts every few minutes, but the entire band is on fire from the start to the finish, and it is worth noting that this was Rick Wakeman's first album with the band. All four full band songs are major classics, especially Roundabout, a classic rock mainstay, and Heart of the Sunrise, a prog fan's wet dream. Throw in some really cool solo pieces like Mood for a Day and The Fish, and it's no wonder that nearly five decades later, this is still considered one of the best progressive albums ever.
I was 4 when this was released, so I can't speak intelligently about the impact of an album like this. I agree somewhat with Ben. Having each band member do a "solo" track is interesting in theory, but those tracks are very hit or miss. I dig The Fish, but I'm not sure how popular that opinion is, and Mood for a Day is an incredible piece of music. Cans and Brahms is and always has been just "meh," and We Have Heaven was initially interesting, but I can't listen to it anymore (even as short as it is). The one and only redeeming thing about Five Per Cent for Nothing is that it's only 35 seconds. It is otherwise a steaming pile of garbage.
The rest of the album, however, is a half hour of absolute epicness. Roundabout and Heart of the Sunrise are the stars. Absolutely perfect songs in every way. Long Distance Runaround is a sneaky prog song in a radio-friendly format (listen to Bill Bruford hitting the snare on every 5th beat of a 4/4 song). Finally, South Side of the Sky is the underrated contributor that brings it all together. This was probably one of the first "real" prog records I bought.
The run of The Yes Album, Fragile, CTTE, Topographic Oceans, Relayer, and GFTO is one of the most epic runs of music that I'd put up against just about anyone (only a handful of skipable tracks, and half of those are the Anderson, Wakeman and Bruford "solo" pieces on Fragile).
Speaking of 'Classic Yes', the live version of Roundabout on that little hits CD is my definitive version of the song.
Absolutely LOVE that version of the song!
I still hate LDR and Roundabout because of the singer, who is the weakest link of this band and it's not even close.
This make me want to surround your car with shopping carts....
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That's awesome Bill!!
So you brought the album (cover) top the concert with you? Does that mean you had to hold it for the entire show?
Was that a meet n greet you paid for, or was he just out meeting people?
Paid, though it was through the venue and I know someone there (unlike when Neal Morse came when you had to buy it from his website). It's a really small place - it's literally a theater in the Town Hall - and the parking is the parking lot for the Town Hall, so right outside. They let you put your stuff out in the car and come back in for the show. I did that for Neal Morse as well (and will likely do it for Rick Wakeman, when he comes in October, if it's like Jon through the venue.)
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I would be amiss if I did not recommend DTFers to listen to ALL of the LPs that Kev has listed....as well as the albums preceeding and following his listings (unless it was the band's debut).
You will get a great perspective of the their history, whether their follow ups showed even more of a progression of talent (disregard sales), or that they had hit their zenith. Maybe there is a weak track or three in each...but....I enjoyed ALL of them eventually (and that includes The BeeGees SNF....otherwise, my wife wouldn't let me sleep with her ever ;)).
I have had all of the listed LPs in my record (or recorded cassette) collection at one time or another (often times due to a roommate or three).
Great thread!
btw....listen to Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, and A Day at the Races......and then you will have a hard time of judging whether 'A Night at the Opera' was the best, the most eclectic, or just the best album ever ;)
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Rush - Hemispheres
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When I got into Rush in late '91/'92, this was one of the last ones I got on CD, I think because an album with only four songs, one of which was over 18 minutes, was both baffling and a bit intimidating to the 18-year old me. I remember getting it in June of 1992 and having my socks knocked off by the title track; I don't listen to it that much anymore, but it sure is a helluva epic. La Villa Strangiato has long been my 2nd favorite song by the band, and The Trees is usually a borderline top 10 song for me as well. Circumstances doesn't really stand out, but it's a solid tune. Even this album had a bit more hiss than their prior records, I do like the sound of it a lot. It sounds more bright and colorful than their other 70's albums, musically and texturally. Great album, and noteworthy as the last one where Geddy's vocals were really up in the stratosphere more often than not, in large part because they recorded the album in a key where he had no choice but to go for it, otherwise they would have had to re-record the entire record. I am glad they left it the way it is. What a classic.
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... I think because an album with only four songs, one of which was over 18 minutes, was both baffling and a bit intimidating to the 18-year old me.
I had the same issue with PF's Animals for the longest time.
I have a hard time calling myself a "Rush fan" as I really only like 2112-MP, CA and a few scattered songs here and there outside those albums. But what I like of Rush I really love. I probably put Hemispheres at the bottom of the 2112-MP stretch if I had to rank them. But that's not a knock on it, it's just the ugliest girl in a hot chick competition. Hemispheres is great, but not better than Xanadu, 2112, Cygnus 1 in my book; The Trees is a fun but not outstanding song, Circumstances I have always loved, and while La Villa is a kicking song, instrumentals don't register as high with me.
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This is a top album for me overall, my favorite Rush album, and LVS is my favorite Rush song.
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One of my favorite 3 Rush albums (along with PoW and CP). It's funny that this was one of the last albums you got from them Shmev - for me, I think it was one of the first ones I bought on cassette, after my initial purchase of CoS and p/g. I already knew all the popular radio songs that got me into them in the first place, but when it came to picking up their cassettes, they were kinda hard to come by at the shopping mall music stores that I went to - I had to get what was available, and if there were more to pick from than I had money for, I went for the cheapest ones (which explains why my first 2 were CoS and p/g).
I never realized that "side 1" was just one song - probably due to the way the individual parts were listed on the J-card. I do know they weren't broken up and interspersed the way the label did it to the Fountain of Lamneth on the cassette version of CoS, but still didn't realize that it was one song. Nor did I know that the title track was the sequel to another song on the previous album...because for the longest time I didn't know AFtK even existed, despite knowing CttH extremely well.
Anyway, about the album - it's one of the few that doesn't have a "meh" track on it - even my other 2 favorite both have at least one track I'll skip. I love all of the songs on Hemispheres, altho LVS and the Prelude to the title track are my favorites. It is a shame that the band didn't realize how high Ged would need to sing according to the way the songs were written and recorded. Can't help but wonder what the album would've sounded like if they would've caught this issue during the writing phase or would have been willing to re-record the album tuned down a bit.
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I think my rough order of getting their studio albums was:
Moving Pictures (had this back in '90 since I always loved Tom Sawyer, even when I liked nothing else I had heard)
Roll the Bones (loved the songs played on the radio and got this right away)
2112 (the title track was what really won me over, thanks to some friends who played it for me)
Power Windows (Marathon and The Big Money kicked my ass when those same friends showed me the A Show of Hands VHS)
Those are the only four I had before seeing them in November 1991. After that, I immediately got:
Permanent Waves (hearing and seeing The Spirit of Radio for the first time live floored me)
Hold Your Fire
A Farewell to Kings
Signals
Grace Under Pressure
Fly by Night
Then I got Hemispheres, and then eventually got the debut, Caress of Steel and Presto later in '92.
And of course every album they have released was bought the day of its release.
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Hemispheres, along with Moving Pictures. are my top 2 Rush albums.
I remember when I first heard Dream Theater my thought was they were making the kind of music Rush should be playing. I never agreed with what Rush did in the 80's. I love Hemispheres Era Rush more than any other. I wanted them to go further with that, even though the band didn't think they could.
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When I was introducing myself to Rush a couple years ago, I only 'liked' the band until I heard Hemispheres. Then I must've played that album on loop a couple dozen times before I even thought about moving on to the next. Hemispheres is my #2 Rush album and was SO close to making my top 50 all time albums, but perhaps in a few years when I take another look it will make the cut. Not a bad moment on this record and I love Geddy's higher vocal lines. The title track is in a three-way battle with Marathon and The Garden as my favorite Rush song. The Trees, Circumstances, La Villa - incredible. Hemispheres is a spectacular record!
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When this album came out I was pretty busy with life and for a long time I didn't really have the time to absorb Cygnus X-1 Book II. Side 2 was easier to digest. One day, I knew I'd have a long wait picking up my little sister from school--the folks were out of town so chauffeur duty fell to me--so I recorded side one onto a TDK 90. I clearly remember when I became familiar with it enough to get chills and have it click for me in a way that has never gone. I was sitting in my Bronco with the AC on full blast (Scottsdale, man) competing with the volume on the stereo. I was staring out the window at some queen palms, but not really seeing them, you know? The sun was hot, the truck was cool, I don't know...the memory of it is fading but the feeling of the moment comes back every time I hear this album.
I also remember the band photo in the center of the cover. Black and white, 3 panels. Alex on the left dressed all in black so you really only see his head floating in the darkness. Ged on the right leaning against a corner of a hallway (his hair was fucking cool in those days). Neil in the center panel looking dorky as hell in some waist coat with a corsage at the chest and canvas sneakers.
A completely brilliant album that is my favorite from Rush, and shall remain so. It may be my favorite album by anyone ever.
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I’m not as big on Hemispheres as most Rush fans. The 3 non-epic tracks are all perfect but the epic is their weakest imo. The Prelude is great, but the Apollo/Dionysus section goes on forever. I just feel like somethings missing that would elevate it for me above 2112/Fountain. Maybe a few more callbacks to Cygnus X-1 would’ve done it. The writing on the other songs was so strong I wish they would’ve written a few more during that period (same with PeW).
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The connection to Cygnus X-1 is superficial at best anyway (calling it Part II and then having those brief reprises in the form of the actual music from Cygnus X-1 in the background for like 3-4 seconds twice), so I was fine with that. I remember getting the CD and thinking, "Oh cool, a part 2 of Cygnus X-1," and then I listened to it and realized they were very different.
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Rush - Hemispheres
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What to say about this one?!
Might be my favorite album by any band ever. On the other hand, there are days when I wouldn't rank it #1 among Rush albums.
I started getting into Rush sometime in 1983. I saw videos for Sudivisions, Countdown, Tom Sawyer and Red Barchetta on MTV, and one of my best friends was already a fan (in part because of his older brother). Signals was the first Rush album I bought, and I think 2112 was the next. I borrowed the rest of the catalog from my friend's brother and made cassette copies. I recall having one with Hemispheres and AFTK.
It took me a while to get into side one, but once I really sat and listened, it captured me and hasn't let me go since. Circumstances hooked me right away, as did the Trees. La Villa Strangiato, among many other Rush songs, really cemented my desire to learn to play bass. The only negative I can think of is that, like all of Rush's prog-era albums, it's really short.
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The length (just over 36 minutes) does not bother me. Albums being under 40 minutes was pretty much the norm in the 70's.
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Heard this at my cousin's house. See had an 8 track of it. Of course Cygnus x-1 Book ii: Hemispheres was split into different "programs."
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Rush is still my favorite band of all time. Became a fan during the Power Windows release (one of my favorite albums). I started collecting the back catalog right away and Hemispheres ranks very high in that group close to 2112. What can be said about the run they had through several eras and styles? It's been nothing short of mind blowing. I'm going to Cinema Strangiato next week!!
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All killer, no filler. My #3 Rush album (behind AFtK and MP). Just glorious. Took me a while to be able to digest the title track after I got deeply 'in' to Rush ('89), as I had gravitated to Xanadu as my fav long-epic of theirs. Hemispheres (song) is a little bloated, but it's still on the Rush A-list. La Villa is absolutely God-tier, and a top 20 song of all time in the jingle books (and 2nd fave Rush song)
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What's number one? Should I know that?
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What's number one? Should I know that?
Well, actually ... I typo'd and there's a virtual tie for #1 (making LVS #3).
Red Barchetta and Xanadu
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Xanadudu :neverusethis:
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Red Barchetta and Xanadu
You and I are in total agreement on this!
I rate Red Barchetta my #1, and Xanadu right behind it.
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Huh; LVS is my number one, but both those others are right up there (especially Red Barchetta; that to me is almost the perfect song.)
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Been doing a lot of driving in the hills north of San Diego this week, and every time the road starts to decline I am totally thinking "...goes screaming through the valley...." :metal
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Red Barchetta and Xanadu
You and I are in total agreement on this!
I rate Red Barchetta my #1, and Xanadu right behind it.
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Why is Jingle under the desk high-fiving TAC? That's what that is, right?
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Disclaimer:
I have nothing to do with that gif. I don't even know who that is.
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Just kidding. I know who Jingle.Boy is.
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Just kidding. I know who Jingle.Boy is.
You know him by his mole?
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Um...not that well, apparently. :lol
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:lol
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Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
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I will admit that I am not much of a fan of Springsteen. I do like a dozen or so of songs, although I rarely reach for them on their own. From this classic album, I do like the title track, and Jungleland is a heckuva song as well. I never quite got the love for Thunder Road, although there is a nice melody in there somewhere. The crappy sound of this album doesn't do it any favors. I remember very little about the deeper cuts, all of which I heard years ago. Let's see if there are any fans of the Boss here who will talk this one up.
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Mrs.jingle is a big fan of his big albums, but I'm mostly ambivalent - and he absolutely lost me after Born in the USA. I do absolutely love this album - it just cracked into my original Top 50. Jungleland is a top 100 all-time song for me. That and the other big-2 are god-tier for me, while the rest is still excellent, despite a big dropoff in quality - simply because the other 3 are so damn awesome. She's The One is probably my fave after the other 3, but there isn't a bad track on the album. We saw him live back in '08 maybe... damn good entertainer, and the band was on fire. Great show.
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I've always been a casual fan. Certain songs connect to me while others, not so much. I do recognize is genius and craft.
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From this classic album, I do like the title track, and Jungleland is a heckuva song as well. I never quite got the love for Thunder Road, although there is a nice melody in there somewhere.
With the addition of enjoying 10th Avenue Freeze Out, this is basically my take.
Edit: Also, "You ain't a beauty but, hey, you're alright." is not a recommended romantic line for anyone but the Boss, me thinks.
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I will admit that I am not much of a fan of Springsteen. I do like a dozen or so of songs, although I rarely reach for them on their own.
This is me too, although I must say that I saw him twice and he puts on a good high energy show.
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My brother saw him years ago when he did a tour by himself where he sang and played an acoustic the whole show, and to this day he swears that if someone would have offered him a revolver so he could have put himself out of his misery, he would have done it. :lol :lol
Note: he went with his wife at the time (now ex-wife), since she is a big fan.
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I'm not the hugest Boss fan - I love "The Rising" and "Wrecking Ball", I really like "Born In The USA" and "Nebraska", and most of his "classic stuff" is eh - but having seen the Broadway show, there's no doubt he's one of the two or three greatest living American musical artists.
(https://i.imgur.com/yUMxghg.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/N69GTkk.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/BKkkwyO.jpg)
Yeah, it was scripted, and yeah, at the start of the show he concedes he's a fraud (never having "worked" any of the jobs he writes about) but his ability to captivate is unparalleled. I've seen him in arenas, stadia and the theater, and for this one, for most of the show, I could hear him raw (that is, without the amplification) and I was very impressed. VERY impressed.
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My brother saw him years ago when he did a tour by himself where he sang and played an acoustic the whole show, and to this day he swears that if someone would have offered him a revolver so he could have put himself out of his misery, he would have done it. :lol :lol
Note: he went with his wife at the time (now ex-wife), since she is a big fan.
The second time I saw him, he had a small acoustic set in the middle of the show and yes, that wasn't really that interesting. But with the whole band he was seriously rocking.
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Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
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I will admit that I do not listen to soul or R&B that much, but whenever I do, Stevie Wonder is one of my go-to artists, and this album is a major classic. I remember seeing on VH1 Classic about 20 years ago a live version of Living for the City, which I had never heard before, and it absolutely floored me; what an amazing song. I eventually got Innervisions and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it, since, as stated before, this kind of music is usually not my thing, but like I always say, good music is good music! He's Misstra Know It All, the album closer, might be my favorite song by Stevie Wonder. This is really good stuff.
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Looking at the track listing, I don't believe I've ever heard a song of this album. I'll remedy that today.
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Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
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I will admit that I do not listen to soul or R&B that much, but whenever I do, Stevie Wonder is one of my go-to artists, and this album is a major classic. I remember seeing on VH1 Classic about 20 years ago a live version of Living for the City, which I had never heard before, and it absolutely floored me; what an amazing song. I eventually got Innervisions and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it, since, as stated before, this kind of music is usually not my thing, but like I always say, good music is good music! He's Misstra Know It All, the album closer, might be my favorite song by Stevie Wonder. This is really good stuff.
this is my favourite album of his (along with Songs In The Key Of Life of course), I consider him to be a genius (and I rarely use that word)
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Looking at the track listing, I don't believe I've ever heard a song of this album. I'll remedy that today.
I'm sure you know Living For The City though? (btw Toto covered it in 2002 and they did it really well)
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Don't know many Stevie Wonder songs, some I like, some not so much, don't know if he's a genius, but he's also responsible for one of the musical crimes of the century:
Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday >:( :censored :omg:
No matter the noble intention but that song is atrocious.
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Don't know many Stevie Wonder songs, some I like, some not so much, don't know if he's a genius, but he's also responsible for one of the musical crimes of the century:
Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday >:( :censored :omg:
No matter the noble intention but that song is atrocious.
"crime", maybe yes, but even these are difficult (harmonically speaking, I've analysed some of his stuff in music college, the guy knows his onions)
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Mrs.jingle is a big fan of his big albums, but I'm mostly ambivalent - and he absolutely lost me after Born in the USA. I do absolutely love this album - it just cracked into my original Top 50. Jungleland is a top 100 all-time song for me. That and the other big-2 are god-tier for me, while the rest is still excellent, despite a big dropoff in quality - simply because the other 3 are so damn awesome. She's The One is probably my fave after the other 3, but there isn't a bad track on the album. We saw him live back in '08 maybe... damn good entertainer, and the band was on fire. Great show.
I hear you, on "lost me after BitUSA" (by the way, "Downbound Train" is perhaps my favorite Bruce tune). But what from after that have you heard? You should give Wrecking Ball a try. I wasn't expected much, but it blew me away. That's good record, by any standard.
By the way, there's a video out there of Bruce on "VH1 Storytellers" and he is very humble and makes a joke about the Manfred Mann version of Blinded By The Light. The original lyric is "cut loose like a deuce" (it's a car reference), but MM changed it to "revved up like a deuce", and it SOUNDS like "wrapped up like a douche" instead. It's actually kind of funny.
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By the way, there's a video out there of Bruce on "VH1 Storytellers" and he is very humble and makes a joke about the Manfred Mann version of Blinded By The Light. The original lyric is "cut loose like a deuce" (it's a car reference), but MM changed it to "revved up like a deuce", and it SOUNDS like "wrapped up like a douche" instead. It's actually kind of funny.
I was just listening to that last week. I've never understood how nobody pointed that out and changed it. It's not even subtle, it's hard to even call it a misheard lyric because of how audible the 'sh' is. Enunciate, motherfucker, lest your song be a joke for future generations. I mean, it already sucks, you don't need to throw that cherry on the sundae.
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Innervisions is one of two Stevie Wonder albums I own, along with Songs in the Key of Life. Favourite tracks are Golden Lady, Don't You Worry Bout A Thing (the intro is ridiculous, but the rest of the song more than makes up for it), and He's Misstra Know It All.
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Listened to Innervisions this morning. It was very enjoyable. Still, not something I'd tend to revisit.
I was wrong, though. I had heard Higher Ground and Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing before.
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Was expecting something by Stevie Nicks.
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Was expecting something by Stevie Nicks.
Rumours, by any chance?
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Ha, no. Just if I am thinking 70s music and someone says Stevie! my mind goes to her, not Stevie Wonder.
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I can't stand Springsteen. Overrated and underrated don't work well when it comes to music, but Springsteen's popularity just baffles me.
Don't recognize any of the songs on Innervisions other than Higher Ground, but that song is absolutely bad ass (although not so much that I feel like checking out the rest of the album).
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I can't stand Springsteen. Overrated and underrated don't work well when it comes to music, but Springsteen's popularity just baffles me.
I can see not liking it (there's a LOT in that catalogue I don't like) but even if just as a live act, I'm surprised you're surprised.
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I can see not liking it (there's a LOT in that catalogue I don't like) but even if just as a live act, I'm surprised you're surprised.
Well...not surprisingly, I've never seen him live, but I know he has a reputation for playing long shows, which is presumably appealing to a majority of his fans. But you presumably have to be a fan first. If the music isn't appealing, then a longer show is a negative. When I "had to" go see Tori Amos in 1994 with my then-girlfriend/now-wife, I couldn't wait for the show to be over.
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I can see not liking it (there's a LOT in that catalogue I don't like) but even if just as a live act, I'm surprised you're surprised.
Well...not surprisingly, I've never seen him live, but I know he has a reputation for playing long shows, which is presumably appealing to a majority of his fans. But you presumably have to be a fan first. If the music isn't appealing, then a longer show is a negative. When I "had to" go see Tori Amos in 1994 with my then-girlfriend/now-wife, I couldn't wait for the show to be over.
Well, there's the difference right there. Because I will go to shows even if I'm not a fan, and check it out. Being a musician, I don't always have to love the music to recognize someone that knows how to perform, and that's Bruce, without question. He made a 40,000 seat stadium seem like a small club (though full disclosure, he did get some boos from the bleachers when he ragged on Dick Cheney) and he made that theater seem like a living room session. And I only write this because I "had to" go to Tori Amos, too (and it may well have been '94 as well, because I was in law school at the time) and it was a similar thing; some of the music just wasn't for me (especially being in a Crimson mode as I was at that time) but I was blown away by the performance.
EDIT: HA! I just checked Setlist.fm, and I saw Tori on October 26, 1994 in New Haven, and she opened the show with... "I'm On Fire" by Bruce Springsteen! How's that for an odd coincidence! (And she also played Landslide and Purple Rain).
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I'm with Stadler, even if I'm not a fan of the music if I go to a show I'm going to get into it and have a good time.
I actually became a fan of Ed Sheeran this way, I saw him live as a birthday gift to my gf and my first thought was like "Holy fuck this guy can play guitar".
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Well, there's the difference right there. Because I will go to shows even if I'm not a fan, and check it out. Being a musician, I don't always have to love the music to recognize someone that knows how to perform, and that's Bruce, without question. He made a 40,000 seat stadium seem like a small club (though full disclosure, he did get some boos from the bleachers when he ragged on Dick Cheney) and he made that theater seem like a living room session. And I only write this because I "had to" go to Tori Amos, too (and it may well have been '94 as well, because I was in law school at the time) and it was a similar thing; some of the music just wasn't for me (especially being in a Crimson mode as I was at that time) but I was blown away by the performance.
EDIT: HA! I just checked Setlist.fm, and I saw Tori on October 26, 1994 in New Haven, and she opened the show with... "I'm On Fire" by Bruce Springsteen! How's that for an odd coincidence! (And she also played Landslide and Purple Rain).
Regarding the bolded comment, as you know, I'm also a musician, and I can recognize when someone knows what he/she is doing, but that doesn't mean I want to go to a show by someone I don't like. Maybe Springsteen would surprise me, but I'm not going to spend the time and money to find out. If I have to go to a show (which is almost never the case), I'll try to find something to enjoy, but it isn't always possible.
My Tori Amos show was 8/23/94, so only a couple months before yours (and 25 years ago this Friday -- an anniversary I definitely won't be celebrating). She opened with American Pie and Smells Like Teen Spirit and later covered Angie and Landslide. I recall having a headache that night, so that didn't help, but I also recall completely hating the structures of her original songs as well as the way she sat at the piano. I was glad that my wife lost interest in her after only a couple years.
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Well, there's the difference right there. Because I will go to shows even if I'm not a fan, and check it out. Being a musician, I don't always have to love the music to recognize someone that knows how to perform, and that's Bruce, without question. He made a 40,000 seat stadium seem like a small club (though full disclosure, he did get some boos from the bleachers when he ragged on Dick Cheney) and he made that theater seem like a living room session. And I only write this because I "had to" go to Tori Amos, too (and it may well have been '94 as well, because I was in law school at the time) and it was a similar thing; some of the music just wasn't for me (especially being in a Crimson mode as I was at that time) but I was blown away by the performance.
EDIT: HA! I just checked Setlist.fm, and I saw Tori on October 26, 1994 in New Haven, and she opened the show with... "I'm On Fire" by Bruce Springsteen! How's that for an odd coincidence! (And she also played Landslide and Purple Rain).
Regarding the bolded comment, as you know, I'm also a musician, and I can recognize when someone knows what he/she is doing, but that doesn't mean I want to go to a show by someone I don't like. Maybe Springsteen would surprise me, but I'm not going to spend the time and money to find out. If I have to go to a show (which is almost never the case), I'll try to find something to enjoy, but it isn't always possible.
I do know you're a musician, and I didn't at all mean it as condescending as it sounds. I'm just mildly interested in this. I've heard people say "I just don't get how [insert famous musician] is so well liked", and I often agree (Radiohead, Tom Petty, there are others) but it's one of the few things I don't think I've ever heard about Bruce. Arguably, it's a fist fight between him and Bob Dylan as to the greatest living American musician, and that's independent of any one "liking" either (Bob Dylan is unlistenable to me with the exception of maybe two or three songs).
My Tori Amos show was 8/23/94, so only a couple months before yours (and 25 years ago this Friday -- an anniversary I definitely won't be celebrating). She opened with American Pie and Smells Like Teen Spirit and later covered Angie and Landslide. I recall having a headache that night, so that didn't help, but I also recall completely hating the structures of her original songs as well as the way she sat at the piano. I was glad that my wife lost interest in her after only a couple years.
Haha, wasn't an anniversary, but I'm not celebrating that time either. :) I have a CD single with Angie, Teen Spirit and Thank You (Zeppelin) and Teen Spirit is horrible. Angie is pretty good, unless you don't like her voice, then it's also horrible. :) I would have liked to have heard that. Purple Rain was really good though, and I think that song is very overrated.
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I do know you're a musician, and I didn't at all mean it as condescending as it sounds. I'm just mildly interested in this. I've heard people say "I just don't get how [insert famous musician] is so well liked", and I often agree (Radiohead, Tom Petty, there are others) but it's one of the few things I don't think I've ever heard about Bruce. Arguably, it's a fist fight between him and Bob Dylan as to the greatest living American musician, and that's independent of any one "liking" either (Bob Dylan is unlistenable to me with the exception of maybe two or three songs).
I'm not sure I can articulate why, but I "get" why Bob Dylan is such a big deal. But Springsteen I just don't "get." I don't like his voice, and his songs are about as mundane as can be. Having never seen him live, I obviously won't "get" that part of it, but like I said before, I don't want to see someone live if I don't like the material. In this regard, I think Springsteen is a lot like the Grateful Dead. But I kind of "get" the Dead. They appeal to stoners, their records sell comparatively poorly (I think that's correct), and the whole point of the band seems to be the live "experience."
And, more broadly, for me, I don't really think the concept of a musician being "great" is independent of being "liked."
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I can't stand Springsteen. Overrated and underrated don't work well when it comes to music, but Springsteen's popularity just baffles me.
Don't recognize any of the songs on Innervisions other than Higher Ground, but that song is absolutely bad ass (although not so much that I feel like checking out the rest of the album).
that actually was what I thought when I listened to it for the first time (age 5), but it grew on me and it became one of my two favourites by Stevie. (probably because I have that kind of rule when listening to albums of doing full runs, not skipping. It definitely helped with this album.)
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Van Halen - Van Halen
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We have discussed this band on here enough to where the greatness of this album kind of goes without saying. An all-time classic, and one of the best debut albums of the 70's, which is impressive when you consider how many great debut albums that decade gave us. I often call Van Halen "party rock" and this is in many regards the ultimate party rock record. Every song is a winner, it rocks, it's fun, and it has an immediate appeal that even those living in a cave who might not have heard it would probably take to it right away.
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Great album, and a great run of albums for the entire DLR Era. It's great "throwing a frisbee at the beach" music.
My Top 3 from the album are:
Atomic Punk
I'm The One
On Fire
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Great album, and a great run of albums for the entire DLR Era. It's great "throwing a frisbee at the beach" music.
My Top 3 from the album are:
Atomic Punk
I'm The One
On Fire
What about shirtless volleyball? :P
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No, that would be Winger!
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I always liked the back up vocals on " Little Dreamer ".
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It's hard to narrow down favorites on an album this good and consistent, but Little Dreamer would definitely be in contention for my favorite song from this record. Gun to my head, Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love and I'm the One would be the others.
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Amazing debut. Sounds as fresh today as it did upon release. A true landmark in American rock music. Played this one a ton, which says a lot since I never considered myself a big fan of the band.
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A true landmark in American rock music.
It is.
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And, more broadly, for me, I don't really think the concept of a musician being "great" is independent of being "liked."
Wait, I don't follow. Do you mean YOU can't think a musician is great if you don't like them, or A musician can't be great if no one likes them?
I DEFINITELY disagree with the first part; Eddie Van Halen is a great musician period, whether I like him or not. What I like doesn't matter in the least.
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I'm not sure I can articulate why, but I "get" why Bob Dylan is such a big deal. But Springsteen I just don't "get."
Please at least try, because I don't follow that at all. :)
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I'm not sure I can articulate why, but I "get" why Bob Dylan is such a big deal. But Springsteen I just don't "get."
Please at least try, because I don't follow that at all. :)
I get it.
I mean, I don't really care for either of them. But Dylan was a poet that captured the spirit of the 60s the same way that Kurt Cobain (for better or for worse) became this iconic "WE IDENTIFY WITH YOU" attitude of the disenchanted Gen Xers (not everyone, but enough of them to make a huge difference)
I personally don't see how Springsteen resonates with anyone outside of Jersey. And he's not nearly the poet Dylan is either. And neither one of them can sing at all. Their playing has a decent amount of passion, but not a ton of skill (like Kurt Cobain....and yes, I realize that some will burn me an effigy for the comparison, but I honestly see a TON of similarities)
I guess there's an extreme "blue collar" attitude that Bruce has with his fan base, so maybe that's it. But again, all that can be said about Kurt. I just think he was the Springsteen/Dylan of his time, and he's not even my favorite Seattle artist by a long shot. But I totally get why he resonated with a generation. And that's why I view him in the same light.
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There was nothing blue collar about Cobain. He came off as a bratty kid.
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There was nothing blue collar about Cobain. He came off as a bratty kid.
How old are you?
I mean. I was a teenager in the 80's, and my early 20s when Nevermind came out. Again...not my favorite album, but immediately looked around and knew exactly why it resonated. The 80s had been a decade of excesses. We had reached (supposedly) the top of the heap. Party and be happy. Only no one was actually happy. It was the epitome of "now that we're here...so what?" That was what we were all feeling. Frustrated that society had achieved so much, but still hadn't given us anything to hope for....or strive for. In a way, I think that entire attitude was the rise and fall of Kurt Cobains life and career. "Society has achieved everything, and yet I have nothing" (Society gives you everything) "And what good is this?" To put it another way....why do you think so many lottery winners suffer from depression? Because they thought that if they won the lottery, they would be happy. Then they aren't. And it's crushing. That was all of us. And Kurt captured that, and then died because of it. (whether he killed himself or was killed doesn't change the point. He was still depressed at his own fame, and that's a repeating theme to anyone who ever got sudden success)
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There is some truth to that. However I would say we were happy, at least many of us were. But being happy had fallen out of fashion. It wasn't cool to be singing about "Girls Girls Girls" and "Nothing but a Good Time" any longer. How that was a reflection of us, I think you touched on some good points, even if I disagree with others.
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Lest I get OT, let me just reiterate that this starts with someone who is an icon beyond their talent level because they identify with and resonate with the current "pulse of society" in which they happen to inhabit. I think Kurt belongs in that tier along with Dylan and Springsteen for that reason.
All the criticisms you could level at Kurt (can't sing, can't play) could just as easily be leveled at either of the other two. Because even though they had some talent for songwriting, neither of them were exactly virtuosos.
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An all-time classic, and one of the best debut albums of the 70's, which is impressive when you consider how many great debut albums that decade gave us. I often call Van Halen "party rock" and this is in many regards the ultimate party rock record. Every song is a winner, it rocks, it's fun, and it has an immediate appeal that even those living in a cave who might not have heard it would probably take to it right away.
This.
And despite being "party rock", Eddie's playing influenced nearly every rock guitar player to come. What he did for the evolution of the electric guitar is unrivaled to this day.
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I love all VH records, but this one is what it is, no doubt.
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Van Halen - Van Halen
I was a Junior in High School when this came out, so, um... I have a lot of indulgent memories associated with this record. It was more than just a landmark American rock album, it was a cultural phenomenon. It was dangerous, decadent, joyful and loud. Everyone was listening to it from the rich to the poor, stoners to the jocks, populars to the nerds.
Anyway, great record that I don't reach for but am always happy to hear when it's on.
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There was nothing blue collar about Cobain. He came off as a bratty kid.
Concur.
There was nothing blue collar about Cobain. He came off as a bratty kid.
How old are you?
I mean. I was a teenager in the 80's, and my early 20s when Nevermind came out. Again...not my favorite album, but immediately looked around and knew exactly why it resonated. The 80s had been a decade of excesses. We had reached (supposedly) the top of the heap. Party and be happy. Only no one was actually happy.
This is a much better way of explaining it than saying that Cobain was "blue collar" (an adjective that absolutely fits Springsteen). "Blue collar" simply isn't the right adjective for Cobain.
And I think you know that TAC is about the same age you are (as am I).
Van Halen - Van Halen
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This album epitomizes the notion of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. The individual songs are all good (Ain't Talkin' being the only one I would describe as great), but there was just something about this album as a whole, along with it coming along at the right place and time.
Anyway, great record that I don't reach for but am always happy to hear when it's on.
That about sums it up.
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Love VH's debut - nothing's ever topped it! Only letdown (for me) is Jamie's Cryin'. I just hate that song. But the rest of the album is absolutely amazing. Makes me wonder how music would have developed in the 80s if not for this album. In particular all the guitar shred and hair metal of the later 80s which I consider to be descendants of VH - the former for the guitar pyrotechnics that Eddie brought to the fore with this album, and the latter for the party attitude of the lyrics during the DLR-era.
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When I said Springsteen was blue collar, and then compared him to Cobain, I wasn’t being that linear. See my second post. I was wondering how anyone outside of NJ could relate to BS, and concluded that it was the blue collar crowd. Like BS, Cobain resonated with a broad swath of a disenchanted generation.
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VH was my favorite band at the time up through 1984. After DLR, not so much. Still, one of the most influential bands of the late 70's - early 80's.
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VH1 is interesting.. Side 1 is pretty much all solid for me except I'm The One which I don't care at all about. Eruption is killer, YRGM is one of those definitive cover songs, Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love is a really fun rocker but some of the lyrics are bad and I don't like Roth's delivery for much of it. Runnin' with the Devil is hilarious if you listen to the isolated vocal tracks but the song itself rocks. Side 2 just plain stinks imo, sorry
So side 1 is decent but side 2 ruins it, honestly the coolest thing about this record to me is the cover. I just wish they captured an action shot of Eddie shredding. Roth's pose is so Robert Plant and cool af. If I was a kid in the 70s this would probably be a whole other story and I'd be all over this like Stadler was. :P
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There was nothing blue collar about Cobain. He came off as a bratty kid.
How old are you?
And I think you know that TAC is about the same age you are (as am I).
It's all good, pg, J Dude and I are cool.
When I said Springsteen was blue collar, and then compared him to Cobain, I wasn’t being that linear. See my second post. I was wondering how anyone outside of NJ could relate to BS, and concluded that it was the blue collar crowd. Like BS, Cobain resonated with a broad swath of a disenchanted generation.
Yeah, I figured if you call someone Blue Collar, that means they actually have a job. :lol
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I am not a fan of Cobain, either the person or the music. I get it, tragic ending, but I just never got into that whole persona/vibe. I understand it better now, but still don't identify with it. I wasn't at all a Bruce fan growing up (he was a little before my time; plus I disliked the music; I on principle rejected anything with a saxophone that wasn't called "Baker Street") but at least I understood it.
Speaking of the Boss, I'm sitting in Newark Airport this morning and one of those carts go by, and guess who's sitting in it? The Boss, whistling a tune (I do not lie). I'm on a group text with some college friends, one of whom is a MASSIVE Boss fan (75, 80 shows now). I tell him and he's all "Sure, the Boss flies commercial, right." Another says "pictures or it didn't happen". So I sit there, and google the map for the airport, and sure enough, I'm in the United International concourse, at the first gate in, and after my gate, they built this new fancy lounge and beyond that are the international gates. So it's at least possible, and so for shits and giggles I walk down towards the end to see. No Bruce. I do see a flight to LA, and they've paused boarding, but no Bruce. I must've been wrong, so I turn around to walk back to my gate and he walks right by me with another guy. I was a foot and a half from him, and I heard him talk (his voice is exactly what you think it sounds like). He continues on, skips the line and walks right down the jetway, on his flight to LA.
And because my friends are d***s:
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Love VH's debut - nothing's ever topped it! Only letdown (for me) is Jamie's Cryin'. I just hate that song. But the rest of the album is absolutely amazing. Makes me wonder how music would have developed in the 80s if not for this album. In particular all the guitar shred and hair metal of the later 80s which I consider to be descendants of VH - the former for the guitar pyrotechnics that Eddie brought to the fore with this album, and the latter for the party attitude of the lyrics during the DLR-era.
Aw, man, I LOVE that song. The tone of the guitar... There really isn't a bad song on that album. If I HAD to rank them, the bottom three would be "Little Dreamer", "I'm The One" and "Ice Cream Man", but that's more because the rest of the album was so good, than they are bad.
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How do we know that's him?...oh, let me check...
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Great picture of his ass Stads! :lol
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I have a better one:
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No excuses, but I was trying to be sly with the photo. It was SO low key; not one person bothered him or even seemed to recognize him. I did confirm with the gate agent that it was him, though, because as I said, they paused boarding to let him get on.
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I'm just busting. That's actually freaking awesome.
Do you watch NESN at all? Kacie McDonnell was at the baggage claim right next to us in San Diego. Apparently she was on our flight out there. And NO, I didn't take a picture of her ass. I preferred to stay married. :lol
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VH1 is interesting.. Side 1 is pretty much all solid for me except I'm The One which I don't care at all about. Eruption is killer, YRGM is one of those definitive cover songs, Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love is a really fun rocker but some of the lyrics are bad and I don't like Roth's delivery for much of it. Runnin' with the Devil is hilarious if you listen to the isolated vocal tracks but the song itself rocks. Side 2 just plain stinks imo, sorry
That isolated vocal tracks is one of the funniest things ever! :lol :lol
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“GoddamitbabyyouknowIain’tlyingtoyouI’monlygonnatellyouonetimeaaaaaaaahyeah!”
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Hey Stads, you gotta picture of David Lee Roth’s ass somewhere on that HDD? :eyebrows:
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With the assless chaps? Lol
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Deep Purple - Machine Head
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While I will totally concede that the riff to Smoke on the Water blew my mind the first time I heard it in the early 90's, Deep Purple has always been a band I merely kinda liked. They have songs I like, some of which are on this record, but I never go out of my way to listen to any of them. Ever. I do remember getting this on CD back in the day, because I wanted Smoke on the Water, and was taken aback at how terrible the sound quality was. Even by 1972 standards, it was pretty bad. I think recent remasters have helped it a lot in that regard.
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I know nothing about Deep Purple, but I have to acknowledge this:
VH1 is interesting.. Side 1 is pretty much all solid for me except I'm The One which I don't care at all about. Eruption is killer, YRGM is one of those definitive cover songs, Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love is a really fun rocker but some of the lyrics are bad and I don't like Roth's delivery for much of it. Runnin' with the Devil is hilarious if you listen to the isolated vocal tracks but the song itself rocks. Side 2 just plain stinks imo, sorry
That isolated vocal tracks is one of the funniest things ever! :lol :lol
“GoddamitbabyyouknowIain’tlyingtoyouI’monlygonnatellyouonetimeaaaaaaaahyeah!”
"WOOOOO! .... WOOOOO!"
:lol :rollin :lol
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Deep Purple are great, not on all records and not on all songs but on the whole a really iconic and influential band.
Machine Head is a great record, full of classics, but almost all of them are seriously overplayed and as good as the riff to Smoke On The Water is, I won't regret it if I never hear the song again.
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The bad sound was, in my opinion, Warner Brothers. They botched the early Van Halen transfers to CD too. I know I have the remasters done with Roger Glover's oversight (including some remixes that apparently turned the Man In Black temporarily RED!) and they sound really good. Let's not get crazy, not "Discipline" good (one of the best sounding CDs in my collection, in my opinion) but much better than they used to.
Blackmore is my favorite musician of all time, and I'm a big fan of Purple. Fireball is my jam, but this record is better than just being "the one with Smoke... on it".
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Never really cared for Deep Purple. Can't put my finger on it, but I just never could really get into them.
BTW, of course Springsteen sang about things from his background in Jersey. But in no way were those things specific to Jersey. People everywhere related to his music, which is why he is so popular.
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Purple is a "Greatest Hits" band to me. I have one of their (many) Greatest Hits albums, and Live in Tokyo, and that fulfills my DP needs just nicely.
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ABBA - Arrival
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And now we move on to a pop classic from the 70s, ABBA's 1976 classic, Arrival. It is not difficult to see why this band was so big. The vocals are excellent, the songs are catchy as hell, and the overall sound is very real and colorful. Dancing Queen is the biggest one here of course, but to me, Knowing Me, Knowing You is a major classic and just a damn good song. When I Kissed the Teacher and That's Me are also ones I like a lot, and the title track that closes the album is just terrific. What they do with their voices in that title track is just amazing. I know this isn't everyone's thing, but its classic status is well-earned.
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Had to look this one up because I only know them by their hits (which will always get a lot of play for me).
Money, Money, Money is a fantastic song, and I rank Fernando in their Top 3, though Wikipedia says it wasn't on the original album except in Australia and New Zealand.
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https://youtu.be/zo3pfnldlD0
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I love Abba, mainly because it takes me back to when I was growing up but also because the song writing is incredible.
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ABBA songs metal up very well 🤘.
They were the first group I was into as a kid before I heard KISS.
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I love Abba, mainly because it takes me back to when I was growing up but also because the song writing is incredible.
as are their vocal chops IMHO
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Supertramp - Crime of the Century
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Another major classic here, often called art rock and sometimes called progressive rock, but whatever you call it, this is a great album. Dreamer is the most well-known song here, and I will concede that this song can grate on me a little if it's not the right day, but on others day, I still enjoy it a lot. The other radio hits, Bloody Well Right and School, are both stone cold killer tunes, and the deep cuts on this album are just tremendous, most notably the title track, Rudy and Hide in Your Shell, the latter of which is sometimes my favorite Supertramp song. I love how musical this album is, with the different keyboard sounds, the saxophone, the clarinet, etc.
Great record!
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Supertramp - Crime of the Century
This is a band that was really big when I was growing up (especially when Breakfast in America was out), but it was before I really got into popular music, and they had pretty well died out by the time I was into it. I only know like three Supertramp songs: Dreamer, Bloody Well Right and the Logical Song.
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Supertramp - Crime of the Century
This is a band that was really big when I was growing up (especially when Breakfast in America was out), but it was before I really got into popular music, and they had pretty well died out by the time I was into it. I only know like three Supertramp songs: Dreamer, Bloody Well Right and the Logical Song.
Not "Take The Long Way Home" or "Breakfast In America" ("Take a look at my girlfriend, she's the only one I got... Not much of a girlfriend...")?
When they are good, they are GREAT. There is just a lot there that doesn't always grab me.
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Supertramp - Crime of the Century
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Another major classic here, often called art rock and sometimes called progressive rock, but whatever you call it, this is a great album. Dreamer is the most well-known song here, and I will concede that this song can grate on me a little if it's not the right day, but on others day, I still enjoy it a lot. The other radio hits, Bloody Well Right and School, are both stone cold killer tunes, and the deep cuts on this album are just tremendous, most notably the title track, Rudy and Hide in Your Shell, the latter of which is sometimes my favorite Supertramp song. I love how musical this album is, with the different keyboard sounds, the saxophone, the clarinet, etc.
Great record!
One of my favourites by the band for all these reasons (although I like all their records)
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Supertramp - Crime of the Century
This is a band that was really big when I was growing up (especially when Breakfast in America was out), but it was before I really got into popular music, and they had pretty well died out by the time I was into it. I only know like three Supertramp songs: Dreamer, Bloody Well Right and the Logical Song.
Not "Take The Long Way Home" or "Breakfast In America" ("Take a look at my girlfriend, she's the only one I got... Not much of a girlfriend...")?
They don't ring a bell (other than BIA being the title track of that album). It's possible I've heard them but don't know them by name and don't remember them.
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Supertramp was all over my classic rock station when that was all I listened too. Liked all the hits, with School and Even in the Quietest Moments being my favorites. Never bothered to buy any albums though.
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"Breakfast In America" ("Take a look at my girlfriend, she's the only one I got... Not much of a girlfriend...")?
"she gives me seltzer when my tummy aches, I keep her picture in my wallet...."
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One of those bands where I know a few songs quite well but couldn't tell you who played them until I checked. Obviously charted in Australia but not a band I have ever had come up in conversation.
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I don't own a lot of Supertramp records but this is one of them and it's great. There really isn't a bad track on this record and School is an absolute classic tune imo.
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Supertramp is a fantastic band, no question. But I have to really be in the mood to listen to them, and I am not often in that mood.
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Aw man, I'm so behind. Can I take it back to Van Halen for a sec?
I recently listened to DLR on Marc Maron's WTF podcast. That interview was literally exhausting. He's like the fastest talker on the planet and flits from subject to subject more rapidly that someone who is floridly manic. But he is also super smart with a depth and breadth of knowledge that surprised me.
I also had no idea how much the band mates hate each other. Even to this day. Now, I wouldn't want to spend hours on a tour bus with DLR either, but it's sad how they can't let bygones be bygones.
Anyway, love VH. Nothing takes me back to high school faster than Runnin with the Devil and Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love.
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“GoddamitbabyyouknowIain’tlyingtoyouI’monlygonnatellyouonetimeaaaaaaaahyeah!”
Scrolled to the top of the page and somehow missed this the first time. Glorious.
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“GoddamitbabyyouknowIain’tlyingtoyouI’monlygonnatellyouonetimeaaaaaaaahyeah!”
Scrolled to the top of the page and somehow missed this the first time. Glorious.
https://www.cracked.com/blog/4-lead-singers-that-sound-shockingly-bad-without-band/
See entry #1 and the YouTube links that go with it (the other three entries are pretty good too).
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Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Deja Vu
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Now we see who the major classic rock fans here are, as you almost have to be to like this one. I had this CD way back in the 90's and always found it a bit spotty, but I get why it's a classic. It has some longtime classic rock favorites, and it brought together the original trio of CSN with Neil Young. Woodstock is the true standout here, IMO, and the title track and Carry On are favorites as well. The classic CSN harmonies carry much of the album as usual, and Young's (what some would call) unconventional lead guitar style brought a flavor to the music that isn't there on just the CSN records.
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Pop-folk has never given me a thrill...less so than beach music, even. Still, I could probably sing along with half the songs on this album.
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I have the CSN box set, and man, when they are on, they are ON. Nothing more beautiful. Alas, when they miss the mark...
Seeking out the interview they did with Dan Rather would be rewarding. For all their hippy-dippy, Mother-Earth, lovey-dovey nonsense, they are a prickly bunch, and as I understand it, as of right now, Nash and Stills are not at all speaking to Crosby. The interview is great, because the three of them cannot agree as to when they first sang together, and they are unapologetic about that disagreement. Final observation, Stills is a breathtaking guitarist, but I honestly think he either banged his head or got some bad acid; sometimes when he talks it just makes zero sense.
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Stephen Stills has a hearing loss issue that began when he was a young child and has worsened over the years. His dysarthria is related to that. It has nothing to do with his cognitive abilities.
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Stephen Stills has a hearing loss issue that began when he was a young child and has worsened over the years. His dysarthria is related to that. It has nothing to do with his cognitive abilities.
No, I don't mean the sound/tone of his voice, I mean he sometimes seems to be having a different conversation. Maybe it's related and I'm being unfair. Crosby, by way of example, is SO erudite and well-spoken, it's possible it's just perception.
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Stephen Stills has a hearing loss issue that began when he was a young child and has worsened over the years. His dysarthria is related to that. It has nothing to do with his cognitive abilities.
No, I don't mean the sound/tone of his voice, I mean he sometimes seems to be having a different conversation. Maybe it's related and I'm being unfair. Crosby, by way of example, is SO erudite and well-spoken, it's possible it's just perception.
I watched that interview with Dan Rather - though it was years ago - I cannot recall if he was wearing his hearing aids or not. Sometimes people with pretty profound hearing loss can lose bits and pieces of conversations especially when there are more than one person talking. I suppose that could make it easy for it to seem like he was having a "different conversation." His hearing loss issues are not a secret certainly, but I'm not aware that he talks very openly about it. As he's had it to a degree since childhood it could be sort of normalized for him and for his close friends and associates.
And yes, SS did a plethora of drugs back in the day. Couple that with normal age-related cognitive declines, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume he has some damage there. Having a close family friend with a daughter who has hearing loss it gets upsetting when people make assumptions that she isn't intelligent because she has a speech impediment based on that hearing loss. I just wouldn't make assumptions that SS is suffering from brain damage any more than any of the other guys in the group.
I also agree that David Crosby is pretty masterful at the art of flowery speeches and is a very smart guy for someone who should've been dead about a dozen times in his life.
The issue between the band mates shunning of DC is honestly because of DC's lack of a social filter. He'd be the first to admit he's an ass and though he has apologized numerous times, it seems the bridges have been burned with little hopes to rebuild them. It started with Neil Young's choice of girlfriend and now wife, Darryl Hannah, who famously had a row with Crosby's long time friend, Jackson Browne back in the 90s IIRC. Then Graham Nash dumped his wife for a younger model - Crosby and Nash married their brides in the same ceremony back in the late 80s. Crosby is still married to his wife, Jan Dancer. No doubt DC had some feelings around Nash dumping his wife after nearly 40 years and said some hurtful things to the press about it. Nash has yet to forgive him and very likely never will. It's sad to a lot of people that CSN and CSNY will never be again. But I'm not one of them. I like DC's musical output since they broke up and I think he is doing just fine without them. I'd rather remember them in their heyday.
Speaking of memories, I just watched the 50th anniversary of Woodstock documentary from NPR. It's excellent. I wanted more music but I learned a lot of things I never knew before about those few days on Yasgur's farm. Highly recommended.
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Stephen Stills has a hearing loss issue that began when he was a young child and has worsened over the years. His dysarthria is related to that. It has nothing to do with his cognitive abilities.
No, I don't mean the sound/tone of his voice, I mean he sometimes seems to be having a different conversation. Maybe it's related and I'm being unfair. Crosby, by way of example, is SO erudite and well-spoken, it's possible it's just perception.
I watched that interview with Dan Rather - though it was years ago - I cannot recall if he was wearing his hearing aids or not. Sometimes people with pretty profound hearing loss can lose bits and pieces of conversations especially when there are more than one person talking. I suppose that could make it easy for it to seem like he was having a "different conversation." His hearing loss issues are not a secret certainly, but I'm not aware that he talks very openly about it. As he's had it to a degree since childhood it could be sort of normalized for him and for his close friends and associates.
And yes, SS did a plethora of drugs back in the day. Couple that with normal age-related cognitive declines, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume he has some damage there. Having a close family friend with a daughter who has hearing loss it gets upsetting when people make assumptions that she isn't intelligent because she has a speech impediment based on that hearing loss. I just wouldn't make assumptions that SS is suffering from brain damage any more than any of the other guys in the group.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough (legit sorry, that's not snark). My grandson has apraxia of speech and it's maddening to see people either yell at him thinking that's going to make things better, or talk about him in the third person as if he can't understand them. I've long had the feeling that formed the basis of my comment, but - and you didn't say this, but it's kind of part and parcel with your post - if I've never met the man or spoken to him, it's really not my place to speculate. At the end of the day he's a marvelous guitar player, and as that's what he's chosen to put out in the world, that's what we - I - should focus on. The last third of the second disk of that CSN box is almost all Stills and it's phenomenal.
I also agree that David Crosby is pretty masterful at the art of flowery speeches and is a very smart guy for someone who should've been dead about a dozen times in his life.
The issue between the band mates shunning of DC is honestly because of DC's lack of a social filter. He'd be the first to admit he's an ass and though he has apologized numerous times, it seems the bridges have been burned with little hopes to rebuild them. It started with Neil Young's choice of girlfriend and now wife, Darryl Hannah, who famously had a row with Crosby's long time friend, Jackson Browne back in the 90s IIRC. Then Graham Nash dumped his wife for a younger model - Crosby and Nash married their brides in the same ceremony back in the late 80s. Crosby is still married to his wife, Jan Dancer. No doubt DC had some feelings around Nash dumping his wife after nearly 40 years and said some hurtful things to the press about it. Nash has yet to forgive him and very likely never will. It's sad to a lot of people that CSN and CSNY will never be again. But I'm not one of them. I like DC's musical output since they broke up and I think he is doing just fine without them. I'd rather remember them in their heyday.
Speaking of memories, I just watched the 50th anniversary of Woodstock documentary from NPR. It's excellent. I wanted more music but I learned a lot of things I never knew before about those few days on Yasgur's farm. Highly recommended.
It's pretty steep - if memory serves, like $700 - but I get monthly updates from Dead.net about new releases, and apparently there's a box set out there now that has the ENTIRE show. All three days, something like 450 songs... it's missing only two Hendrix songs (the estate wouldn't release them) and I think it was a couple Sha-Na-Na songs that were never recorded in the first place.
Crosby has played twice now at a local theater I go to - about 500 seats; I've seen The Winery Dogs and Neal Morse there in recent months - and from all accounts it was a magical experience.
There was an article in People that strongly implied Browne beat up Hannah pretty badly (though the cause has never been confirmed or denied, the injuries were not in doubt). Neither party has spoken at any length about the accusations since.
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CSN(Y) was around from my childhood because two of my sisters (who were 16 and 11 years older than me) were big fans of this sort of music. Their vocal harmonies are amazing, but I probably don't know more than 5-10 of their songs.
On this album, based on the song titles only, I think the only two I know are Teach Your Children and Our House, and I feel like the main reason I know Our House is because it was used in a sausage commercial in the early 80s (and a couple other times).
Oddly enough, one of the first CSN songs I liked as I was getting into popular/rock music was War Games from the movie of the same name.
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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough (legit sorry, that's not snark). My grandson has apraxia of speech and it's maddening to see people either yell at him thinking that's going to make things better, or talk about him in the third person as if he can't understand them. I've long had the feeling that formed the basis of my comment, but - and you didn't say this, but it's kind of part and parcel with your post - if I've never met the man or spoken to him, it's really not my place to speculate. At the end of the day he's a marvelous guitar player, and as that's what he's chosen to put out in the world, that's what we - I - should focus on. The last third of the second disk of that CSN box is almost all Stills and it's phenomenal.
All good. And yeah, Stills is one of my favorite pickers. I have a few of his solo releases and I enjoy them immensely. And if you've never heard Super Session from '68 with Stills, Mike Bloomfield, and Al Kooper, you're missing out. Manassas and his self-titled albums from '70 and '75 too.
It's pretty steep - if memory serves, like $700 - but I get monthly updates from Dead.net about new releases, and apparently there's a box set out there now that has the ENTIRE show. All three days, something like 450 songs... it's missing only two Hendrix songs (the estate wouldn't release them) and I think it was a couple Sha-Na-Na songs that were never recorded in the first place.
Crosby has played twice now at a local theater I go to - about 500 seats; I've seen The Winery Dogs and Neal Morse there in recent months - and from all accounts it was a magical experience.
There was an article in People that strongly implied Browne beat up Hannah pretty badly (though the cause has never been confirmed or denied, the injuries were not in doubt). Neither party has spoken at any length about the accusations since.
About Daryl Hannah and Jackson Browne, I honestly never knew what to make of it. At one point I saw the police report and looking at that along side the rag magazine accounts it seemed like 2 separate incidents all together. But then again, police reports can be full of shit so who knows? It is kind of interesting more hasn't been made of it with the Me Too movement. Daryl Hannah is a pretty vocal spokeswoman for the environment but hasn't said much (to my knowledge) about the incident with Browne. I don't follow her closely so I could be wrong. But I have a feeling the truth isn't out there about it.
Maybe you can answer me a question about that box set though? My spouse is a bigger Dead fan than I am and said that they hated their performance at Woodstock so much that they never released any material from the show. The documentary I just watched and the original documentary never showed anything about them other than they were listed on the poster/line up. Is their set in that box set release you mentioned? I did see that Spotify had what appeared to be the entire show on a set list. But I don't support Spotify so I'm out on that one. I'd probably consider buying that box set for Richie Havens set alone though. :heart
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On this album, based on the song titles only, I think the only two I know are Teach Your Children and Our House, and I feel like the main reason I know Our House is because it was used in a sausage commercial in the early 80s (and a couple other times).
Thank you!! I totally knew that song from a commercial but couldn't remember what it was for.
I know those two plus Woodstock based on their titles, but it would not surprise me if I knew more of them but couldn't place them on titles alone.
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On this album, based on the song titles only, I think the only two I know are Teach Your Children and Our House, and I feel like the main reason I know Our House is because it was used in a sausage commercial in the early 80s (and a couple other times).
Thank you!! I totally knew that song from a commercial but couldn't remember what it was for..
I had to look it up. Apparently, it was also in a Target commercial a few years back.
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Maybe you can answer me a question about that box set though? My spouse is a bigger Dead fan than I am and said that they hated their performance at Woodstock so much that they never released any material from the show. The documentary I just watched and the original documentary never showed anything about them other than they were listed on the poster/line up. Is their set in that box set release you mentioned? I did see that Spotify had what appeared to be the entire show on a set list. But I don't support Spotify so I'm out on that one. I'd probably consider buying that box set for Richie Havens set alone though. :heart
As far as I know (and I do not put myself out there as an expert) but you are right with their long-held position on their set. They have always held their performance with disdain, and denied the release of their set. But - and I don't have SPECIFIC comments from the Dead camp, but there are a couple things in play: one, it's the complete set, not snippets, and for example John Fogerty relented when he knew it was CCRs full set and not one song out of context (which is why he wasn't on the original Woodstock film). Two, since Jerry's death, the rest of the band has been more willing to release warts-and-all shows, (Dick's Picks was something like 34 volumes, Road Trips was 20, Dave's Picks is around 32 now, and there have been six or seven tour, or run box sets, including ALL 20-something shows of the Europe '72 tour). Three, the material enters the public domain next year, and can be legally bootlegged starting next year. This release will, in some jurisdictions, renew the copyright for them.
For the record, the Dead set is five songs, 90 minutes (including one hour of just Dark Star and Turn On Your Love Light). I've heard the Creedence set is actually REALLY good (and is available separately).
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Maybe you can answer me a question about that box set though? My spouse is a bigger Dead fan than I am and said that they hated their performance at Woodstock so much that they never released any material from the show. The documentary I just watched and the original documentary never showed anything about them other than they were listed on the poster/line up. Is their set in that box set release you mentioned? I did see that Spotify had what appeared to be the entire show on a set list. But I don't support Spotify so I'm out on that one. I'd probably consider buying that box set for Richie Havens set alone though. :heart
As far as I know (and I do not put myself out there as an expert) but you are right with their long-held position on their set. They have always held their performance with disdain, and denied the release of their set. But - and I don't have SPECIFIC comments from the Dead camp, but there are a couple things in play: one, it's the complete set, not snippets, and for example John Fogerty relented when he knew it was CCRs full set and not one song out of context (which is why he wasn't on the original Woodstock film). Two, since Jerry's death, the rest of the band has been more willing to release warts-and-all shows, (Dick's Picks was something like 34 volumes, Road Trips was 20, Dave's Picks is around 32 now, and there have been six or seven tour, or run box sets, including ALL 20-something shows of the Europe '72 tour). Three, the material enters the public domain next year, and can be legally bootlegged starting next year. This release will, in some jurisdictions, renew the copyright for them.
For the record, the Dead set is five songs, 90 minutes (including one hour of just Dark Star and Turn On Your Love Light). I've heard the Creedence set is actually REALLY good (and is available separately).
I'd definitely be up for listening to the Dead's set. I understand there were problems also due to the rain and risk of electrocution - not just the fact that they were wasted. LoL. It can't be all that bad.
I am so not a CCR fan, but I'd be able to suffer through I'm sure. I'll definitely consider that box set for sure. Thanks for the information!
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Let us know when you fogeys have finished hijacking the thread!
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Let us know when you fogeys have finished hijacking the thread!
Ok!
Hey Stadler that box set you were talking about is unfortunately sold out! :'( I saw it on eBay for about $2500 though. :lol
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On this album, based on the song titles only, I think the only two I know are Teach Your Children and Our House, and I feel like the main reason I know Our House is because it was used in a sausage commercial in the early 80s (and a couple other times).
Thank you!! I totally knew that song from a commercial but couldn't remember what it was for.
I know those two plus Woodstock based on their titles, but it would not surprise me if I knew more of them but couldn't place them on titles alone.
pg1067/Cool Chris,
I'be shocked if neither of you knew Suite: Judy Blue Eyes. The end of that song is one of those classic rock moments that everyone knows.
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Just youtubed Our House, and I did not recognize it.
Did the same for Suite Judy Blue Eyes. I didn't recognize the title, but I definitely know that song, and have always considered that the signature CSN song.
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Suite Judy Blue Eyes is not on Deja Vu but on CSN released in '69 - the year prior to Deja Vu. I love that song, written for Stills' lady at the time, Judy Collins.
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The thing to know about CSN and CSNY is that they all brought their own songs to the studio and the 'best' made the cut for each album. Each member has a very distinctive style so it isn't difficult to tell who the writers of any particular song was. And while they collaborated to a degree, it was extremely competitive and thus not conducive in many ways. There were points when Stills literally took over the tracks while the others were away and obsessively mixed and remixed the songs. The in-fighting was legendary. Young was in then he was out then he was in. The drug use certainly didn't help matters. It is pretty amazing they held it together for as long as they did. But when they were on stage and truly working together it was simply magical.
My least favorite member of the band in all honesty is Graham Nash. Now don't get me wrong, his high harmonies make the sound that CSNY are known for. He is an integral part of the mix. But his songs - Our House, Teach Your Children, among others - while very popular for the band - just never really sent me personally.
Favorite tracks of mine: Guinnevere, Wooden Ships, Long Time Gone, Deja Vu, Ohio, Shadow Captain, Dark Star, Compass. And Carry Me never fails to bring a tear - now so much more that my mom has passed.
So TAC, are we good now? ;)
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pg1067/Cool Chris,
I'be shocked if neither of you knew Suite: Judy Blue Eyes. The end of that song is one of those classic rock moments that everyone knows.
I totally know (and like) that song. I was just referring to songs from the Deja Vu.
And not to go back to the drama, but I never knew any of this Jackson Browne/Daryl Hannah. And after a quick Wikipedia search, I learned a lot more. Didn't know she was with John John, is now with Neil Young. I try to actively avoid personal info about musicians, but I feel like I would have at least heard something about that.
I also just learned Jeannie May is dating Jezzy. Thanks TAC!
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On this album, based on the song titles only, I think the only two I know are Teach Your Children and Our House, and I feel like the main reason I know Our House is because it was used in a sausage commercial in the early 80s (and a couple other times).
Thank you!! I totally knew that song from a commercial but couldn't remember what it was for.
I know those two plus Woodstock based on their titles, but it would not surprise me if I knew more of them but couldn't place them on titles alone.
pg1067/Cool Chris,
I'be shocked if neither of you knew Suite: Judy Blue Eyes. The end of that song is one of those classic rock moments that everyone knows.
I both know and really like that song, but it's on the CSN debut album and not on the CSNY album Deja Vu.
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I also just learned Jeannie May is dating Jezzy. Thanks TAC!
Just bringing the hip, brother!
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I also just learned Jeannie May is dating Jezzy. Thanks TAC!
Just bringing the hip, brother!
Why? Did you fall and break yours?
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Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East
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Many would say that the 70's was the decade of the live album, and this is one that many would list as being one of the more notable; it is certainly a metal classic, even if questions about how live it was remain. I have never hidden the fact that I am a studio album guy, but this is one live release I will listen to somewhat regularly from start to finish, and I find that three of the live versions here obliterate their studio originals - Victim of Changes, Genocide and (the cover) The Green Manilishi. Around '99/'00, I had a handful of go-to workout CD's and this is one of them. This is the mighty Priest at their best. :metal :metal
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Great "Live" album. Just wish they had done the double album thing like most bands were doing. Could've gotten a near full show that way.
I haven't picked up the remastered version. Is that expanded to include the rest of the set from that tour?
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Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East
This is one of my favorite live albums, even it the vocals are only live-ish, and my gateway to early Priest. I used to love when Rob would introduce a song and say, "we'd like to go back to the Sin After Sin album! . . . . . . . . AlsoUnleashedInTheEast!" Because I heard UITE before any of the earlier albums, these are the go to versions of pretty much all of the songs. The only negative about this is that it wasn't a double album.
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Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East
This is one of my favorite live albums, even it the vocals are only live-ish, and my gateway to early Priest. I used to love when Rob would introduce a song and say, "we'd like to go back to the Sin After Sin album! . . . . . . . . AlsoUnleashedInTheEast!" Because I heard UITE before any of the earlier albums, these are the go to versions of pretty much all of the songs. The only negative about this is that it wasn't a double album.
very true
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Great "Live" album. Just wish they had done the double album thing like most bands were doing. Could've gotten a near full show that way.
I haven't picked up the remastered version. Is that expanded to include the rest of the set from that tour?
There's a CD version available on Amazon that includes four additional tracks: Rock Forever, Delivering the Goods, Hell Bent and Starbreaker.
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Great "Live" album. Just wish they had done the double album thing like most bands were doing. Could've gotten a near full show that way.
I haven't picked up the remastered version. Is that expanded to include the rest of the set from that tour?
There's a CD version available on Amazon that includes four additional tracks: Rock Forever, Delivering the Goods, Hell Bent and Starbreaker.
Which is just shy of the entire set. "Evil Fantasies" and "Beyond The Realms Of Death" were recorded at those same shows and released as b-sides, and "White Heat, Red Hot" and "Take On The World" were performed at the shows in question but apparently not recorded (though WHRH was in the middle of the set, so that doesn't really make sense. TOTW was one of the two encore songs, with Tyrant).
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Absolute cracker of a live album, even if it isn’t strictly a live album. Gives those songs a bit of oomph the studio versions lack.
My vinyl came with a 7 inch ep with Rock Forever, Delivering the Goods, Hell Bent for Leather and Starbreaker on it.
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I was fine with the original length of the album. That was the charm of those live albums back then, as they were often the length of studio albums, almost like, "here are the best cuts from a show," as opposed to just putting the whole show on there. Made it more concise and easier to get through in one listen.
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Live albums that don't contain the whole show are always suspect to me.
That said, I always liked what I heard on Unleashed.
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I've always tried to appreciate Priest, but Halford's voice just makes it impossible. I know that's a hot take, but I just don't get it.
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That's more of a bad take than a hot one. :P
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Pick K-Lox's side or Kev's side..... :huh:
What a fucking nightmare choice that is... :lol
Let's see, a needle in my eye or bamboo chutes up my fingernails.
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I do like Halford, but I've never been a huge Priest guy, which probably sounds weird.
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Well, I am a big Priest fan, and not much of a Maiden fan, so the "weird" door swings both ways, right? Besides, it would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
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Pick K-Lox's side or Kev's side..... :huh:
What a fucking nightmare choice that is... :lol
Let's see, a needle in my eye or bamboo chutes up my fingernails.
Hey, TAC... shut up again! :rollin
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Well, I am a big Priest fan, and not much of a Maiden fan, so the "weird" door swings both ways, right? Besides, it would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
So...you swing both ways? Not that there's anything wrong with that. :lol
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Pick K-Lox's side or Kev's side..... :huh:
What a fucking nightmare choice that is... :lol
Let's see, a needle in my eye or bamboo chutes up my fingernails.
Hey, TAC... shut up again! :rollin
I'm actually closer to your side regarding Priest. There's just something about them that has never really grabbed me.
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Only for you, sweetheart. :heart
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Live albums that don't contain the whole show are always suspect to me.
That said, I always liked what I heard on Unleashed.
I think I know what you mean here. I like Priest, I love some albums, but I always thought they were a tier below Maiden, Sabbath, and Motorhead, and some of the other metal bands they get lumped in with. I always thought they were a little cartoon-y and a little more calculated than Maiden and Sabbath.
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I respect Judas Priest for the influence they had, but they were never a band that I was rabid for. To me, they were always just another band, never amongst my favorites.
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I respect Judas Priest for the influence they had, but they were never a band that I was rabid for. To me, they were always just another band, never amongst my favorites.
Maiden were like that for me. Always respected them growing up and enjoyed them when I heard them but never felt compelled to buy an album until recent years.
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Boston - Boston
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This is pretty much the perfect 70's rock album. I have spoke before about what a life-changing event hearing Foreplay/Long Time was for me as a music fan, and I can never overstate it; I never knew music could be that good. And then I got the cassette the next day and discovered the rest of the record was nothing but one amazing song after another. 8 songs, all gems, all played on the radio, all major classics. This album is pretty much :hefdaddy :hefdaddy non-stop.
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Not much more I can add that. Not an album I ever owned, since I heard pretty much everything on it on my classic rock station with regularity.
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Yep, it doesn't get much closer to perfection than this disc. Tom really found magic in a bottle with this one. Beyond a classic record.
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I've always tried to appreciate Priest, but Halford's voice just makes it impossible. I know that's a hot take, but I just don't get it.
And yet you like GnR.... :facepalm:
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Boston is one of the best albums ever recorded.
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Boston - Boston
Side 1 is one of the best album sides of all time. Side 2 is just good.
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Side 1 is one of the best album sides of all time. Side 2 is just good.
Had to look at the track listing to remind myself the breakdown. Dang, that is not a stretch to make that argument.
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I only recently listened to this album in full and it truly is amazing. I never knew how well put together the album is until I saw the "what makes this song great" with Rick beato
https://youtu.be/ynFNt4tgBJ0
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I’m probably alone in preferring the follow up, Don’t Look Back, but it was my first Boston album, and it miraculously appeared in the LP rack at home when I was a kid. My mum and dad both deny getting it, yet there it was in all its sci fi, gatefold sleeve glory.
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Boston - Boston
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/BostonBoston.jpg)
This is pretty much the perfect 70's rock album. I have spoke before about what a life-changing event hearing Foreplay/Long Time was for me as a music fan, and I can never overstate it; I never knew music could be that good. And then I got the cassette the next day and discovered the rest of the record was nothing but one amazing song after another. 8 songs, all gems, all played on the radio, all major classics. This album is pretty much :hefdaddy :hefdaddy non-stop.
Remembering that this was recorded in 1976, there's a moment in More Than A Feeling where Brad Delp hits this note, and you think the glasses on the table are going to break, or he's going to pass out from lack of oxygen, then at the very end he modulates up a step and it fades into the guitar line and... I been sold on Delp ever since. One of my favorite vocalists of all time (and he delivered live, the one time I got to see him).
EDIT: He does it once at about 2:28, but the moment I'm talking about is when he does it AGAIN at about 3:45. Just killer.
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Rick Beato covers that in the vid that Reaper linked.
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Guess I better watch that, then... :)
BTW, who is Rick Beato? Should I know him?
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Guess I better watch that, then... :)
BTW, who is Rick Beato? Should I know him?
Nope.
His Boston video is pretty good. I spent a bit of the last couple nights going through his channel. There's a ton of content, but the more I watched, the more aggravated I got. He completely ignores metal. He has lists of different things, 20 Best Drum Intros, 20 Best Rock Singers, and it's more like Rolling Stone made these lists for him.
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Boston - Boston
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/BostonBoston.jpg)
This is pretty much the perfect 70's rock album. I have spoke before about what a life-changing event hearing Foreplay/Long Time was for me as a music fan, and I can never overstate it; I never knew music could be that good. And then I got the cassette the next day and discovered the rest of the record was nothing but one amazing song after another. 8 songs, all gems, all played on the radio, all major classics. This album is pretty much :hefdaddy :hefdaddy non-stop.
Can't argue with any of this.
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I'm watching this video now, and I'm amazed he was able to get the individual tracks for the song; it's so cool hearing the isolated vocals and the isolated bass (I'm not sure I could hum you even one bass line on that entire album, and I've listened to it 100's of times and played Peace of Mind in bands for years.
Though he threw me for a loop when at the 7:13 mark, he miraculously changed his 12-string guitar into a bass with the flick of a wrist!
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Rick beato is a pretty successful music producer. He did a ton of work with Sevendust. His music theory knowledge is next level.
Guess I better watch that, then... :)
BTW, who is Rick Beato? Should I know him?
Nope.
His Boston video is pretty good. I spent a bit of the last couple nights going through his channel. There's a ton of content, but the more I watched, the more aggravated I got. He completely ignores metal. He has lists of different things, 20 Best Drum Intros, 20 Best Rock Singers, and it's more like Rolling Stone made these lists for him.
It's his personal list the reflect his personal tastes. He has done some what makes this song great on a few metal bands, megadeth being one of them.
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I haven't been through all of them. I did see the Symphony Of Destruction one, but that song sucks.
He did cop to say his band opened for Megadeth in the late 90's.
He's also done the great song thing with Metallica. But his lists definitely ignore metal.
He loves himself some early 90's Seattle music though.
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The Beato video is cool, but it illustrates why the song could never really be performed live on anything approaching the same level as the album.
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His Boston video is pretty good. I spent a bit of the last couple nights going through his channel. There's a ton of content, but the more I watched, the more aggravated I got. He completely ignores metal. He has lists of different things, 20 Best Drum Intros, 20 Best Rock Singers, and it's more like Rolling Stone made these lists for him.
You're aggravated that someone else has different sensibilities than you?
Boston is god-level. And Rick Beato is awesome. I don't love everything he loves, but he is on top of his stuff. He also just recently celebrated 1 million followers on YouTube. His "What Makes This Song Great?" series is fantastic.
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His Boston video is pretty good. I spent a bit of the last couple nights going through his channel. There's a ton of content, but the more I watched, the more aggravated I got. He completely ignores metal. He has lists of different things, 20 Best Drum Intros, 20 Best Rock Singers, and it's more like Rolling Stone made these lists for him.
You're aggravated that someone else has different sensibilities than you?
Boston is god-level. And Rick Beato is awesome. I don't love everything he loves, but he is on top of his stuff. He also just recently celebrated 1 million followers on YouTube. His "What Makes This Song Great?" series is fantastic.
Yeah, exactly what Hef said. Beato's channel is full of great music (usually rock) related content from theory, to gear, to production, and more.
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His Boston video is pretty good. I spent a bit of the last couple nights going through his channel. There's a ton of content, but the more I watched, the more aggravated I got. He completely ignores metal. He has lists of different things, 20 Best Drum Intros, 20 Best Rock Singers, and it's more like Rolling Stone made these lists for him.
You're aggravated that someone else has different sensibilities than you?
They are HIS lists, so that's fine. I can change the channel. But I was aggravated because I'd never heard of the guy before Reaper linked the Boston video, and I got all excited about this.
Yeah, exactly what Hef said. Beato's channel is full of great music (usually rock) related content from theory, to gear, to production, and more.
I'll be exploring the channel for sure. I just find his lack of metal in his lists irking. How can you have a great drum into list and not have Run To The Hills?
Yes, it irks me that he has completely ignored metal on his lists. How he can have Kurt Cobain on his all time 20 rock singers and ignore Halford, Dio, Dickinson, Ozzy, Geoff Tate. I realize 20 means 20, but like I said, it's a Rolling Stone style listings that I can't take seriously.
Boston is god-level. And Rick Beato is awesome. I don't love everything he loves, but he is on top of his stuff. He also just recently celebrated 1 million followers on YouTube. His "What Makes This Song Great?" series is fantastic.
Boston IS God Level. I've never heard of Rick Beato, and that's great, he has 1 mil followers.
I look forward to his breakdowns on a lot of the songs.
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TAC, I'd recommend skimming through the list of his videos in the "What Makes This Song Great" series and watching ones by artists you enjoy. He does a great job breaking stuff down. Sounds like you should probably steer away from his top 20 lists videos.
Also - as a side note - Rick might argue none of the vocalists you listed made his list because it was a "rock singers" list. If he was to do a "metal singers" list, some of those names would probably be on it.
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I wouldn't put Kurt Cobain on my "Top 20 Singers For Nirvana That Married Courtney Love" list, but that's neither here, nor there.
I love his enthusiasm. When he played the high solo for "More Than A Feeling" and gave that little fist pump, as if he even surprised himself, that was endearing. I really got a lot out of that; that song has a lot more substance than I ever imagined.
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TAC, I'd recommend skimming through the list of his videos in the "What Makes This Song Great" series and watching ones by artists you enjoy. He does a great job breaking stuff down.
Oh, I plan on it. The Boston one was awesome. Like I said, I just found this channel the other night.
I did watch his interviews with JP and JR. They were a couple of years old. Once they got past the geeky gear talk, the one with JP was great.
I love his enthusiasm.
One of the user comments in the Boston vid was 50% ability 50% enthusiasm. :lol
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Yes, it irks me that he has completely ignored metal on his lists. How he can have Kurt Cobain on his all time 20 rock singers and ignore Halford, Dio, Dickinson, Ozzy, Geoff Tate. I realize 20 means 20, but like I said, it's a Rolling Stone style listings that I can't take seriously.
I would have ignored them too, and I don't give a fuck about Rolling Stone.
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OK...I'm going to watch the Toto-Roseanna one. :lol
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I wouldn't put Kurt Cobain on my "Top 20 Singers For Nirvana That Married Courtney Love" list, but that's neither here, nor there.
Well said.
I watched Beato's video for Roundabout. It's just as good as the Boston video (even though I knew most of the stuff he mentioned, it's really cool to hear it isolated and in context).
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Frank Zappa - Joe's Garage
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/Zappa_Joe%27s_Garage.jpg)
Really good album, and one that seems to follow the pattern of many other concept albums, in that it starts off really strong, get a bit tedious a little halfway through, and then picks up steam again near the end before a good finish. That said, I can't think of anything from this I do not like, but it's just tough to get through in one listen, and with the exception of Watermelon in Easter Hay, most of my favorites are from the first half of the record. Zappa almost seems like his own genre at times, and this album is a good example of that genre; it is very Frank Zappa, if you catch my drift.
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:corn
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I feel like I know a lot about Frank the man, and so little about his musical output. I remember hearing the Live Scenes DVD commentary the first time where they talked about the "Zappa section" in Beyond This Life. As that is one of the most "wtf is this nonsense?!" moments in DT's discography, my initial thought was "Man, this Zappa dude's music must be awful."
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Wow Chris....DT fans sure can be different sometimes. :rollin :rollin :rollin
Beyond This Life is (to me) the greatest song from SFAM, and easily a top 3 song in DT history, and the "Zappa" section resonated with me right away and might be my favorite portion of the album. In fact, that exact moment in the commentary was what convinced me I needed to investigate Zappa even further.
I'm up to almost 20 albums, and I love every note.
Joe's Garage is....just what everyone says it is. It's brilliant, but gets a bit bogged down. Like it gets crushed under the weight of its own point. He could have trimmed the fat and made it the most brilliant double album of all time. But since there is little agreement on which moments should be cut, it's probably just best left as it is.
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I love everything about Beyond This Life but that section :D
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I love everything about Beyond This Life but that section :D
What about the Budakon version with the extended jam? (You know...the greatest DT live moment ever put to tape....errr...DAT....or whatever the kids are using these days) :lol
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I have not listened to Budokan in forever. I remember liking that jam a lot. Except for the Zappa part. Will listen to tomorrow.
Not a big fan of This Dying Soul, but As I Am, TDS, BTL and Hollow Years is a killer opening to that show.
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Boston: really good record, not as great for me as for others here, because there are a lot of records I like better, but still a really good record.
Zappa: I know just a few songs here and there, maybe I should give this one a try.
OK...I'm going to watch the Toto-Roseanna one. :lol
Where he completely ignores the majestic outro solo and says it's some whammy bar stuff, which it is not. Not that it matters much.
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Frankie is one of my heroes and Joe's Garage is the most elaborate joke of a concept album I know about. (and some pieces are a bit tricky to play, but very fun to play too. To me anyway) And btw, AFAIK, this was Vinnie Colaiuta's second ever studio session he played on. (and in case it wasn't his second, it still was a really early one in his career.)
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I feel like I know a lot about Frank the man, and so little about his musical output. I remember hearing the Live Scenes DVD commentary the first time where they talked about the "Zappa section" in Beyond This Life. As that is one of the most "wtf is this nonsense?!" moments in DT's discography, my initial thought was "Man, this Zappa dude's music must be awful."
I'm not a die-hard Zappa fan, but I am a fan; I have a couple CDs - We're Only In It For The Money/Lumpy Gravy, Over-Night Sensation/Apostrophe, and Roxy & Elsewhere - and enjoy most of them. One thing I've found, though, is with the exception of Dweezil Zappa's gig (which I saw open for DT), "Zappa-esque" is not "Zappa". I enjoy Zappa, most of what I've heard that is "Zappa-esque" is crap. I think most of the people trying to emulate that lacks the sense of humor and the sense of... "fuck you" that is present in most of Zappa's music. Let's be honest; I love DT but there is very little "fuck you" in DT's music.
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Something I only learned recently about Joe’s Garage (which I’m sure most die-hard’s already knew) is that the lead singer of Missing Persons (the famous “plexiglass bra” chick) plays the groupie. On the Wet T-Shirt track.
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Hah! I literally listened to Spring Session M on Monday night.
Words :metal
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Dale Bozzio. Medford girl, if memory serves.
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I feel like I know a lot about Frank the man, and so little about his musical output. I remember hearing the Live Scenes DVD commentary the first time where they talked about the "Zappa section" in Beyond This Life. As that is one of the most "wtf is this nonsense?!" moments in DT's discography, my initial thought was "Man, this Zappa dude's music must be awful."
I love that section, and the commentary made me want to check out Zappa's music, but I never have. In fact, I think the only Zappa song I've for sure heard (beyond the stuff that Dweezil played when he opened for DT) is Valley Girl (which I assume isn't representative).
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"Your father's waiting for you in the tool shed."
:omg: :omg: :omg:
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/RSSF71.jpg)
The Stones have always been more of a hits band for me than an album band, and they have a lot of hits, so I have never been shy of good songs by them to enjoy, but Sticky Fingers is the one album of theirs I can turn on and enjoy the heck out of from start to finish. All 10 songs are really good, and Can't Your Hear Me Knocking and Sister Morphine are both near the top of my list of favorite songs by the Stones.
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The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
Not a Stones fan at all (the foundation of my knowledge of the band is from a K-Tel commercial that ran when was a tween/early teen), and looking at the track list, the only song I recognize by name is Brown Sugar.
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The Stones have always been more of a hits band for me than an album band...
I might love their "hits" as much as I love the top tier of any band's discography. A CD of ~80 minutes of my favorite Stones music would have a legit spot at the top of my album rankings.
That being said, I have no idea what songs are on what albums. So I had to look this one up.
I love Brown Sugar, Can't You Hear Me Knocking (one of El Barto's two "perfect RS songs"), Dead Flowers; I like Bitch, I never liked Wild Horses. The others aren't ringing bells by their names alone.
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"Your father's waiting for you in the tool shed."
:omg: :omg: :omg:
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
"Sounds like you just got hit with a ice pick to the forehead."
Been occupied recently and missed a few entries. Boston, what can you say, probably the greatest debut album ever recorded.
Joe's Garage the perfect Zappa album. I've never understood this criticism of "it gets bogged down in the middle". WTAF are you folks listening to? It's perfect. :biggrin:
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"Your father's waiting for you in the tool shed."
:omg: :omg: :omg:
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
"Sounds like you just got hit with a ice pick to the forehead."
Been occupied recently and missed a few entries. Boston, what can you say, probably the greatest debut album ever recorded.
Joe's Garage the perfect Zappa album. I've never understood this criticism of "it gets bogged down in the middle". WTAF are you folks listening to? It's perfect. :biggrin:
very true, and I'd never say so about any Frankie album I know (and I'm a diehard)
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Never liked the Stones.
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I love the Stones; I even like the earlier, bluesier years (I think that's where Mick Jagger shines) and the later post-70's years (I think "Undercover" and "Dirty Work" are excellent albums).
So Sticky Fingers is a pretty solid choice here.
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I forgot to mention that it is impossible for me to hear Can't Your Hear Me Knocking without thinking of how it is featured in Scorsese's Casino film during a montage. Scorsese sure loves him some Rolling Stones.
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I forgot to mention that it is impossible for me to hear Can't Your Hear Me Knocking without thinking of how it is featured in Scorsese's Casino film during a montage.
Same thing with Monkey Man, isn't that in Goodfellas? Not Stones related but the song Marty "ruined" most for me is Layla. Can't hear that without thinking about a Frankie Carbone popsicle.
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I forgot to mention that it is impossible for me to hear Can't Your Hear Me Knocking without thinking of how it is featured in Scorsese's Casino film during a montage.
Same thing with Monkey Man, isn't that in Goodfellas? Not Stones related but the song Marty "ruined" most for me is Layla. Can't hear that without thinking about a Frankie Carbone popsicle.
Monkey Man is in Goodfellas, yes. And I agree about the Layla outro; it is impossible for me to not think about Carbone. :chill :chill
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You know what blew my mind when I first discovered it? The actor who plays Carbone (name escapes me, too lazy to look it up) played young Genco in Goodfellas 2. Obviously he isn't highly billed on either film, and I can't think of anything else he's been in, but those are two nice additions to the resume.
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He had a minor role in The Wedding Singer as well, but I remember seeing Godfather II and recognizing him right away (I saw Goodfellas years before either Godfather). And the younger Clemenza was played by Bruno Kirby (Good Morning Vietnam, When Harry Met Sally, Sleepers, etc.).
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:corn
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As a result of this Stones album showing up in this thread, I took a look at their album releases. From the beginning of their career, it took until Tattoo You to find an album where I recognized more than two songs by name. I'd have figured that there would be albums where I knew at least 4-5 songs.
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As a result of this Stones album showing up in this thread, I took a look at their album releases. From the beginning of their career, it took until Tattoo You to find an album where I recognized more than two songs by name. I'd have figured that there would be albums where I knew at least 4-5 songs.
That blows me away. Seriously. (And I don't mean that in a mocking or negative way; I'm sure I'm the same way with Bob Dylan). But the Stones are one of the more covered bands out there, plus they do a fair number of covers themselves, so...
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I was thinking the same. The Stones have to be one of the most ubiquitous bands of the past 50 years. But then I couldn't name one Taylor Swift song...
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I was thinking the same. The Stones have to be one of the most ubiquitous bands of the past 50 years. But then I couldn't name one Taylor Swift song...
I think most would agree that the Beatles are the most popular band of the last 60 years, and I don't think it's a stretch to say that the Rolling Stones are comfortably in 2nd place.
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Yup comfortably.
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Great album! Just wish I still had the vinyl, with the real zipper on the cover.
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I was thinking the same. The Stones have to be one of the most ubiquitous bands of the past 50 years. But then I couldn't name one Taylor Swift song...
I think most would agree that the Beatles are the most popular band of the last 60 years, and I don't think it's a stretch to say that the Rolling Stones are comfortably in 2nd place.
You should add "rock" to "band" and even then I am not sure that is a "comfortable" second place. What about Queen? Didn't we have a thread about how popular they are, just as an example?
But I chose my words carefully. Ignoring popularity, it just seems the Stones, as much as anyone but the Beatles, are part of the rock music zeitgeist.
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You should add "rock" to "band" and even then I am not sure that is a "comfortable" second place. What about Queen? Didn't we have a thread about how popular they are, just as an example?
But I chose my words carefully. Ignoring popularity, it just seems the Stones, as much as anyone but the Beatles, are part of the rock music zeitgeist.
I think Queen has vaulted into the top tier in the last few years, and I did opine in that thread back in the spring that Queen has possibly passed everyone except the Beatles, largely because of their huge popularity with younger peeps that I don't think some of the other top tier bands have, but it is hard to argue against the 50-year legacy of the Stones, who I am pretty sure could still do stadium tours on a regular basis and have no problem selling all or most of them out.
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ZZ Top - Tres Hombres
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/ZZ_Top_-_Tres_Hombres.jpg)
I like ZZ Top a lot, but they have never really band an album band for me, but more of a band where I like a few songs from most albums and that's it. I can't remember the majority of this album, but it does have their most classic song, La Grange, as well as Waitin' for the Bus and Jesus Just Left Chicago, another one of those 70's back to back deals where you can't have one without the other. I like Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers quite a bit as well. I'll be curious to see if anyone is really high on the whole album and can talk up some of the deep cuts.
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:corn
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Sorry, but I would EASILY put Led Zeppelin comfortably in 2nd. And yes, I understand this isn’t a “personal favorite” kind of thing. I just don’t see how Queen comes close. And even though I don’t particularly care for the Stones, I will concede they are at least in the running. But Zep passed them up nearly from the get-go
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Nah, Beatles and Stones are one-two in the "ubiquitous" category. I don't think it's even close, either.
When John Lennon was shot, my mom went out and bought me the Red and Blue Capital compilations (Beatles) and Hot Rocks by the Stones. Music she felt I "had to know". I get that that was forty years ago and times change, but the point is, The Beatles and The Stones are working not just on two generations, but closer to four at this point.
They've also transcended their genre. You hear The Beatles and The Stones in places like elevators and grocery stores in a way that you don't with Zeppelin and Queen. You can use "Keef" as a euphemism in a way that you can't with Brian May or even Freddie.
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Backtracking a bit... listened to a little Joe's Garage, not being familiar with FZ at all. I wouldn't go as far to say I enjoyed it. It isn't my thing. But I found it more enjoyable than I anticipated.
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Nah, Beatles and Stones are one-two in the "ubiquitous" category. I don't think it's even close, either.
It isn't.
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I really like ZZ Top and I like that record, but I'm not high and can't talk you up on the deep cuts. La Grange is great but seriously overplayed, Jesus and Bus and Beer Drinkers are all fun and classic tunes. The rest isn't bad either, but not really outstanding.
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I bought one of those value pack, 10-CD sets on eBay of the first 10 ZZTop albums (up through Recycler, if memory serves). I knew only the hits (and the revamped ones at that) and some of those early albums were a revelation. Billy Gibbons is the real deal.
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ZZ Top - Tres Hombres
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/ZZ_Top_-_Tres_Hombres.jpg)
I like ZZ Top a lot, but they have never really band an album band for me, but more of a band where I like a few songs from most albums and that's it. I can't remember the majority of this album, but it does have their most classic song, La Grange, as well as Waitin' for the Bus and Jesus Just Left Chicago, another one of those 70's back to back deals where you can't have one without the other. I like Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers quite a bit as well. I'll be curious to see if anyone is really high on the whole album and can talk up some of the deep cuts.
By far, my favorite ZZ album! The only real "meh" song for me is Have You Heard. To the songs you mentioned I'd add Master of Sparks, Hot Blue and Righteous, Precious and Grace and Sheik. But then, I'm probably more of a blues fan than most regulars on the forum. I also really dig the grove of Move Me on Down the Line, but not near as much as the rest of the album. Side one is all win for me.
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As a result of this Stones album showing up in this thread, I took a look at their album releases. From the beginning of their career, it took until Tattoo You to find an album where I recognized more than two songs by name. I'd have figured that there would be albums where I knew at least 4-5 songs.
That blows me away. Seriously. (And I don't mean that in a mocking or negative way; I'm sure I'm the same way with Bob Dylan). But the Stones are one of the more covered bands out there, plus they do a fair number of covers themselves, so...
I was surprised too, but remember I said my foundation of Stones knowledge was a K-Tel commercial. I thought I knew a lot of Stones songs, but they've got more albums than I thought (although it's a bit convoluted given the different UK and U.S. releases) and, like I said, I've never been a fan. I know the big hits but have never gone deeper.
The Rolling Stones: none (I'm familiar with Not Fade Away, but not the Stones' version)
12x5: Time Is on My Side
Rolling Stones Now: none
Out of Our Heads: Satisfaction
December's Children: Get off My Cloud
Aftermath: Mother's Little Helper, Paint It Black (apparently, these were alternate tracks on the UK and U.S. releases)
Between the Buttons: Let's Spend the Night Together, Ruby Tuesday
Satanic: She's a Rainbow
Beggar's Banquet: Sympathy for the Devil
Let It Bleed: Gimme Shelter, You Can't Always Get What You Want
Sticky Fingers: Brown Sugar
Exile: none
Goats Head Soup: Angie
Only Rock n Roll: It's Only Rock 'n Roll
Black and Blue: none
Some Girls: Beast of Burden, Shattered
Emotional Rescue: She's So Cold
Tattoo You: Start Me Up, Hang Fire, Waiting on a Friend (the three singles, all of which had videos on MTV)
And I probably only know 1 or 2 songs released after Tattoo You.
ZZ Top - Tres Hombres
I like maybe one ZZ Top song (Sharp Dressed Man). The only thing I know on this album (La Grange) is one of those songs that causes me to leap to change the station or mute when it starts.
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As a result of this Stones album showing up in this thread, I took a look at their album releases. From the beginning of their career, it took until Tattoo You to find an album where I recognized more than two songs by name. I'd have figured that there would be albums where I knew at least 4-5 songs.
That blows me away. Seriously. (And I don't mean that in a mocking or negative way; I'm sure I'm the same way with Bob Dylan). But the Stones are one of the more covered bands out there, plus they do a fair number of covers themselves, so...
I was surprised too, but remember I said my foundation of Stones knowledge was a K-Tel commercial. I thought I knew a lot of Stones songs, but they've got more albums than I thought (although it's a bit convoluted given the different UK and U.S. releases) and, like I said, I've never been a fan. I know the big hits but have never gone deeper.
The Rolling Stones: none (I'm familiar with Not Fade Away, but not the Stones' version)Tell Me, Walking The Dog
12x5: Time Is on My Side It's All Over Now
Rolling Stones Now: none Heart Of Stone
Out of Our Heads: Satisfaction Play With Fire
December's Children: Get off My Cloud
Aftermath: Mother's Little Helper, Paint It Black (apparently, these were alternate tracks on the UK and U.S. releases) Under My Thumb
Between the Buttons: Let's Spend the Night Together, Ruby Tuesday
Satanic: She's a Rainbow 2,000 Man, 200 Light Years From Home
Beggar's Banquet: Sympathy for the Devil Street Fighting Man
Let It Bleed: Gimme Shelter, You Can't Always Get What You Want Live With Me, Let it Bleed, Midnight Rambler, Monkey Man
Sticky Fingers: Brown Sugar Wild Horses, ...Knocking, Bitch, Sister Morphine, Moonlight Mile
Exile: none
Goats Head Soup: Angie Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker), Star Star
Only Rock n Roll: It's Only Rock 'n Roll
Black and Blue: none Memory Motel, Fool To Cry
Some Girls: Beast of Burden, Shattered Miss You, When The Whip Comes Down, Some Girls
Emotional Rescue: She's So Cold Emotional Rescue
Tattoo You: Start Me Up, Hang Fire, Waiting on a Friend (the three singles, all of which had videos on MTV) Slave, Little T&A, Neighbnours
And I probably only know 1 or 2 songs released after Tattoo You. Undercover, She Was Hot, It Must Be Hell from Undercover, and One Hit To The Body from Dirty Work
Do you like those songs you listed, or no? I say this nicely, and in the spirit of opening doors (not at all making fun of you or anything like that) but there's a lot of low-hanging fruit in your list. See the bold. In particular, these are ESSENTIAL: UnderMy Thumb, Street Fighting Man, Monkey Man, Wild Horses, Midnight Rambler, Miss You, and Some Girls.
Oh, and trivia: in the video for "Waiting On A Friend", Mick Jagger is sitting on the stoop of the building that is the cover of Led Zeppelin's "Physical Graffiti" (it's in NYC, on St. Mark's Place near McSorley's and NYU.)
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Do you like those songs you listed, or no? I say this nicely, and in the spirit of opening doors (not at all making fun of you or anything like that) but there's a lot of low-hanging fruit in your list. See the bold. In particular, these are ESSENTIAL: UnderMy Thumb, Street Fighting Man, Monkey Man, Wild Horses, Midnight Rambler, Miss You, and Some Girls.
Essential for what? (that word is a pet peeve of mine).
To answer your question, generally, no. Those are the songs I know by name on the albums listed. The only Stones song I would say I truly "like" is She's a Rainbow. For the most part, everything else I mentioned ranges from garbage (You Can't Always Get What You Want and Shattered) to just ok (Satisfaction and It's Only Rock 'n Roll).
By the way, this is probably the commercial that I mentioned previously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-lhFrzNsQ
Also, my list omits a few songs that were released only as singles (e.g., Jumpin' Jack Flash and Honkey Tonk Woman).
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Do you like those songs you listed, or no? I say this nicely, and in the spirit of opening doors (not at all making fun of you or anything like that) but there's a lot of low-hanging fruit in your list. See the bold. In particular, these are ESSENTIAL: UnderMy Thumb, Street Fighting Man, Monkey Man, Wild Horses, Midnight Rambler, Miss You, and Some Girls.
Essential for what? (that word is a pet peeve of mine).
To answer your question, generally, no. Those are the songs I know by name on the albums listed. The only Stones song I would say I truly "like" is She's a Rainbow. For the most part, everything else I mentioned ranges from garbage (You Can't Always Get What You Want and Shattered) to just ok (Satisfaction and It's Only Rock 'n Roll).
By the way, this is probably the commercial that I mentioned previously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-lhFrzNsQ
Also, my list omits a few songs that were released only as singles (e.g., Jumpin' Jack Flash and Honkey Tonk Woman).
Well, "essential" in understanding the artist's work. I can use another word, but I really just mean "those songs that capture the essence of the artist". Though, if "She's A Rainbow" is the one song you do like, you won't really like most of what I cited. You may like 2,000 Man - covered by Kiss - and "2,000 Light Years From Home" since they are in the same vein, but that album is very much an outlier in the catalogue. I happen to like it, but it's a very polarizing record.
EDIT: That commercial is classic. :)
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EDIT: That commercial is classic. :)
I have to be very careful with stuff like that because I can end up going down a YouTube wormhole and not coming up for a few hours!
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So I have never listened to a ZZ Top album in my life. I just ran through Tres Hombres. It's actually a really cool album. 1973. Nice.
Being that it is a so called "classic" I kind of expected to have heard a few songs from it. I only know La Grange, and Waitin' For The Bus sounds familiar, though I don't think I have ever placed that as ZZ Top.
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So I have never listened to a ZZ Top album in my life. I just ran through Tres Hombres. It's actually a really cool album. 1973. Nice.
Being that it is a so called "classic" I kind of expected to have heard a few songs from it. I only know La Grange, and Waitin' For The Bus sounds familiar, though I don't think I have ever placed that as ZZ Top.
ZZ Top is one of those few bands that, at least up until Eliminator, I can do without the radio hits. I don't like La Grange, I can do without Tush, but give me Just Got Paid or Sure Got Cold After The Rain Fell all day long.
Have to remind people, though if you're getting into ZZ Top, you have to be careful. There are original mixes, which are dry and of the time (early 70's) but after the success of Eliminator, for the first CD releases, they went back and remixed most (I know all of them for sure except the first two) of the early albums to beef up the drum sound to be more like that found on Eliminator. A travesty if you ask me. Starting in 2006 or so, they started using the original mixes again.
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ZZ Top - Tres Hombres
I like ZZ Top a lot, but they have never really band an album band for me, but more of a band where I like a few songs from most albums and that's it. I can't remember the majority of this album, but it does have their most classic song, La Grange, as well as Waitin' for the Bus and Jesus Just Left Chicago, another one of those 70's back to back deals where you can't have one without the other. I like Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers quite a bit as well. I'll be curious to see if anyone is really high on the whole album and can talk up some of the deep cuts.
Fun to listen to as a growing teen. 'Waitin' For The Bus'/'Jesus Just Left Chicago' is a classic 'two fer'. A bit of a segue....back when we could have a go at made up song titles, lengths, and topics for 'The Astonishing', I included DT doing a cover of 'Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers', and a couple of off the wall upbeat tracks that the band would never do. So, I did get a laugh when I saw the tracklisting for the now current LP, with a song titled 'Barstool Warrior'.
I wonder if they read this forum ;)
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Are the 70s finally over?
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Are the 70s finally over?
And the 80s (other thread)?
Hope not.