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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: TheLordOfTheStrings on May 23, 2019, 08:38:36 PM
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A thread to vent. Sometimes that's all you need to feel better. Let it out, my child.
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Found a shopping cart out of the corral. Starting this thread off right.
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Nothing. I don't really get pissed off much.
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Nothing yet, but I will keep you posted.
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So...is this basically the next level thread beyond the "Things I Find Mildly Irritating" thread?
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Found a shopping cart out of the corral. Starting this thread off right.
Meanwhile, in Russia, there's a pregnant old lady standing on a bus.
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:rollin
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Car in front of my stopped at a green light for a pedestrian-activated crosswalk.
If it's just a regular crosswalk, sure, but when it has a pedestrian-activated light and YOU have the GREEN then you DO NOT STOP. Myself and everyone behind you sees the green light and treats it as such and then you go and stop unexpectedly and dangerously.
Flashing green crosswalk light = go.
Solid green crosswalk light = go.
Yellow-to-red crosswalk light = slow down and stop cuz the pedestrian just activated it.
It feels like this has actually happened to me more times in the last year than in my whole life. If I'm wrong I'd like to know but as far as I know you DO NOT STOP AT A GREEN LIGHT EVER.
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If I'm wrong I'd like to know but as far as I know you DO NOT STOP AT A GREEN LIGHT EVER.
What if there's a pedestrian already in the crosswalk? :)
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If I'm wrong I'd like to know but as far as I know you DO NOT STOP AT A GREEN LIGHT EVER.
What if there's a pedestrian already in the crosswalk? :)
Survival of the fittest. Car is fitter than pedestrian.
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If I'm wrong I'd like to know but as far as I know you DO NOT STOP AT A GREEN LIGHT EVER.
What if there's a pedestrian already in the crosswalk? :)
Survival of the fittest. Car is fitter than pedestrian.
Even your car?
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If I'm wrong I'd like to know but as far as I know you DO NOT STOP AT A GREEN LIGHT EVER.
What if there's a pedestrian already in the crosswalk? :)
Survival of the fittest. Car is fitter than pedestrian.
Even your car?
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Jesus Chad. Jay, you walked into that.
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I'm missing my back bumper, not my front... so yes, still fitter than a pedestrian!
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I'm missing my back bumper, not my front... so yes, still fitter than a pedestrian!
Did you back up into someone?
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Car in front of my stopped at a green light for a pedestrian-activated crosswalk.
If it's just a regular crosswalk, sure, but when it has a pedestrian-activated light and YOU have the GREEN then you DO NOT STOP. Myself and everyone behind you sees the green light and treats it as such and then you go and stop unexpectedly and dangerously.
Flashing green crosswalk light = go.
Solid green crosswalk light = go.
Yellow-to-red crosswalk light = slow down and stop cuz the pedestrian just activated it.
It feels like this has actually happened to me more times in the last year than in my whole life. If I'm wrong I'd like to know but as far as I know you DO NOT STOP AT A GREEN LIGHT EVER.
Ah, so if a pedestrian is illegaly crossing against the light, and you have the green, you are going to just run them over and keep going, because you do not stop a green light ever? :P
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I'm missing my back bumper, not my front... so yes, still fitter than a pedestrian!
Did you back up into someone?
An F150 as I was backing out of my driveway. Dude was speeding and took a corner too fast for me to notice him... Dude spoke no English, and had to run to his cousin's a few houses down from me ( who owned the truck) to get his insurance paperwork. Doesn't matter though. I was automatically at fault.
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Ugh, ok, LITERALLY SPEAKING, you stop at a green light if there's someone in the crosswalk, but you don't just stop at a green light just cuz someone is waiting to cross, everyone behind you sees the green and that means we're going through and then you decide to stop. NO!
TL;DR - Still pissed off about these moron drivers who stop at green lights.
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Pissed me off yesterday:
My buddy and I co-hosted a BBQ for memorial day. Based on responses, we had planned on somewhere between 16 and 20 people showing up. 8 people actually showed.
It really pissed me off because he and I take that kind of thing seriously. We want to please our guests. I was up until midnight the night before (I worked all day Saturday and Sunday at my kitchen job) and was up at 5 Monday morning to finish prepping. Loaded up my smokers and was at my buddy's house for 6:30 and got everything rolling. I spent close to $200 on food, only about half of which got eaten because so many people who said they were coming didn't show or bother to let us know they weren't coming.
I mean, I guess it's kind of cool that I now have, among other stuff, 8lbs of pork belly burnt ends sitting in my fridge, but I don't feel like eating that for the next week in an effort to not have to throw it away.
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Now that's why I like not having people over. Speaking of which...
Invited my friends over this weekend. One of them wants to move in with me which I initially thought was cool, but his stuff has been sitting in a spare room of mine for almost 3 months now. I made a rule to not smoke cigarettes inside, you can step outside and smoke, I don't want that shit clinging to my furniture for days, it's nice weather. Got all uppity over it, eventually just started lighting one up at the kitchen table and brushed me off when I told him to take it outside. WTF? Respect other people's homes. Also asked them to pick up their cigarette butts; went outside the next day and there were literally over 40 cigarette butts sitting around the tree beside the back porch. (He crashed on the couch; I woke up early and went to the gym, when I came back and he left there were cigarette butts in my drinking glass on the coffee table. Motherf...)
Can't even trust your best friends to be respectful when you ask 'em.
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Chino: man that sucks. Did any of those no-show people give a particular reason why they didn't come or was it complete radio silence? The way I see it, if you're invited somewhere and you can't make it/don't want to go, the least you could do is to contact the host and tell them (even a white little lie). Nothing too hard or time-consuming. Indeed, it's not like you snapped your fingers and the table was full of hamburgers, you'd expect at least a little bit of respect from potential guests. But look at it this way; at least now you know who not to invite for the next BBQ.
Katt: that sucks, too. I guess you can't always know what kind of roommate a person will be, no matter how fun it is to hang out with them. I know I wouldn't want to move in with my best friend in a million years though. :lol You're being completely reasonable and if he acts all five-year old about it, maybe he's not some one you want to share your house with.
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Chino: man that sucks. Did any of those no-show people give a particular reason why they didn't come or was it complete radio silence? The way I see it, if you're invited somewhere and you can't make it/don't want to go, the least you could do is to contact the host and tell them (even a white little lie). Nothing too hard or time-consuming. Indeed, it's not like you snapped your fingers and the table was full of hamburgers, you'd expect at least a little bit of respect from potential guests. But look at it this way; at least now you know who not to invite for the next BBQ.
One person I invited that didn't show texted me first thing in the morning saying they weren't going to be able to make it. The rest were on my buddy's wife's end. She had invited a bunch of her girlfriends and their husbands, and I guess they just never came. Assholes.
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I'm pissed off that Kev made it seem like I was defending the Boston Bruins.
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Pissed me off yesterday:
My buddy and I co-hosted a BBQ for memorial day. Based on responses, we had planned on somewhere between 16 and 20 people showing up. 8 people actually showed.
It really pissed me off because he and I take that kind of thing seriously. We want to please our guests. I was up until midnight the night before (I worked all day Saturday and Sunday at my kitchen job) and was up at 5 Monday morning to finish prepping. Loaded up my smokers and was at my buddy's house for 6:30 and got everything rolling. I spent close to $200 on food, only about half of which got eaten because so many people who said they were coming didn't show or bother to let us know they weren't coming.
I mean, I guess it's kind of cool that I now have, among other stuff, 8lbs of pork belly burnt ends sitting in my fridge, but I don't feel like eating that for the next week in an effort to not have to throw it away.
That really sucks.....sorry to hear that. Were these people that are normally reliable?
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I'm pissed off that Kev made it seem like I was defending the Boston Bruins.
:lol
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I'm pissed off that Kev made it seem like I was defending the Boston Bruins.
:lol :lol
Welcome to the dark side from which you can never return. :P
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Pissed me off yesterday:
My buddy and I co-hosted a BBQ for memorial day. Based on responses, we had planned on somewhere between 16 and 20 people showing up. 8 people actually showed.
It really pissed me off because he and I take that kind of thing seriously. We want to please our guests. I was up until midnight the night before (I worked all day Saturday and Sunday at my kitchen job) and was up at 5 Monday morning to finish prepping. Loaded up my smokers and was at my buddy's house for 6:30 and got everything rolling. I spent close to $200 on food, only about half of which got eaten because so many people who said they were coming didn't show or bother to let us know they weren't coming.
I mean, I guess it's kind of cool that I now have, among other stuff, 8lbs of pork belly burnt ends sitting in my fridge, but I don't feel like eating that for the next week in an effort to not have to throw it away.
That really sucks.....sorry to hear that. Were these people that are normally reliable?
I'm not sure on their reliability. Most were friends of friend's wife.
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I'm not sure on their reliability. Most were friends of friend's wife.
That's a tough one....you were basically counting on your buddies wife to come through for ya.
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I'm not sure on their reliability. Most were friends of friend's wife.
That's a tough one....you were basically counting on your buddies wife to come through for ya.
I didn't care who I was feeding, I just wanted an semi-accurate head count :lol
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Still trying to figure out why this thread exists separate from the "mildly irritating" thread.
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I consider "mildly irritating" to be similar to "first world problems". For example, my refrigerator only displaying in Celsius is mildly irritating, but it doesn't piss me off.
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I consider "mildly irritating" to be similar to "first world problems". For example, my refrigerator only displaying in Celsius is mildly irritating, but it doesn't piss me off.
Converting Americans .... one appliance at a time.
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I got one, but cant go into details. Basically a series of events caused by people who are not me who are supposed to manage things and have their their finger on the pulse of things screwing the pooch and causing a chain reaction of events that let to someone getting into our gym at work and possibly taking photos of kids in a pool.
And the person who witnessed this did not inform my guy, the uniformed security officer standing outside, whom they walked passed when leaving, but waited 2 hours and had their significant other call with vague details, and then give different details, which caused it to take 2 days to even find the event on camera.
So people... people pissed me off today.
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Now that's why I like not having people over. Speaking of which...
Invited my friends over this weekend. One of them wants to move in with me which I initially thought was cool, but his stuff has been sitting in a spare room of mine for almost 3 months now. I made a rule to not smoke cigarettes inside, you can step outside and smoke, I don't want that shit clinging to my furniture for days, it's nice weather. Got all uppity over it, eventually just started lighting one up at the kitchen table and brushed me off when I told him to take it outside. WTF? Respect other people's homes. Also asked them to pick up their cigarette butts; went outside the next day and there were literally over 40 cigarette butts sitting around the tree beside the back porch. (He crashed on the couch; I woke up early and went to the gym, when I came back and he left there were cigarette butts in my drinking glass on the coffee table. Motherf...)
Can't even trust your best friends to be respectful when you ask 'em.
Gross. What is it about smoking that makes people act like total turds anyway? This turd is being exceptionally turdy and you need to tell him to fuck off:
1) Smoking outside but leaving butts everywhere.
2) Smoking inside.
3) Leaving butts in your drink. This is passive aggression at its finest and clearly shows he thinks less of you than you do of him and he needs to fuck off.
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Pissed me off yesterday:
My buddy and I co-hosted a BBQ for memorial day. Based on responses, we had planned on somewhere between 16 and 20 people showing up. 8 people actually showed.
It really pissed me off because he and I take that kind of thing seriously. We want to please our guests. I was up until midnight the night before (I worked all day Saturday and Sunday at my kitchen job) and was up at 5 Monday morning to finish prepping. Loaded up my smokers and was at my buddy's house for 6:30 and got everything rolling. I spent close to $200 on food, only about half of which got eaten because so many people who said they were coming didn't show or bother to let us know they weren't coming.
I mean, I guess it's kind of cool that I now have, among other stuff, 8lbs of pork belly burnt ends sitting in my fridge, but I don't feel like eating that for the next week in an effort to not have to throw it away.
Lame, OOC though, did this head count come from a facebook event? I've found from hosting my old (since I didn't do it last year) yearly BBQ that about 1/3 of the facebook attendees wouldn't show.
Now that's why I like not having people over. Speaking of which...
Invited my friends over this weekend. One of them wants to move in with me which I initially thought was cool, but his stuff has been sitting in a spare room of mine for almost 3 months now. I made a rule to not smoke cigarettes inside, you can step outside and smoke, I don't want that shit clinging to my furniture for days, it's nice weather. Got all uppity over it, eventually just started lighting one up at the kitchen table and brushed me off when I told him to take it outside. WTF? Respect other people's homes. Also asked them to pick up their cigarette butts; went outside the next day and there were literally over 40 cigarette butts sitting around the tree beside the back porch. (He crashed on the couch; I woke up early and went to the gym, when I came back and he left there were cigarette butts in my drinking glass on the coffee table. Motherf...)
Can't even trust your best friends to be respectful when you ask 'em.
WTF, how disrespectful can you be? Cigarette smoke is pretty nasty and really sticks to the walls and clothing. And then leaving a butt in your glass? I'd be livid and throw his shit to the curb :lol if he isn't paying rent, I can't see how he has any say in smoking in your place.
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I consider "mildly irritating" to be similar to "first world problems". For example, my refrigerator only displaying in Celsius is mildly irritating, but it doesn't piss me off.
Dude, here's the all-time example of 'first world problems' for you: my wife and her friend were complaining at happy hour about how much they hate it when their diamond engagement rings bump into things, like table edges. I called them out on it, and made some joke about their rings 'accidentally bumping' into their cleaning lady's face. They realized how ridiculous they sounded.
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Pissed me off yesterday:
My buddy and I co-hosted a BBQ for memorial day. Based on responses, we had planned on somewhere between 16 and 20 people showing up. 8 people actually showed.
It really pissed me off because he and I take that kind of thing seriously. We want to please our guests. I was up until midnight the night before (I worked all day Saturday and Sunday at my kitchen job) and was up at 5 Monday morning to finish prepping. Loaded up my smokers and was at my buddy's house for 6:30 and got everything rolling. I spent close to $200 on food, only about half of which got eaten because so many people who said they were coming didn't show or bother to let us know they weren't coming.
I mean, I guess it's kind of cool that I now have, among other stuff, 8lbs of pork belly burnt ends sitting in my fridge, but I don't feel like eating that for the next week in an effort to not have to throw it away.
Lame, OOC though, did this head count come from a facebook event? I've found from hosting my old (since I didn't do it last year) yearly BBQ that about 1/3 of the facebook attendees wouldn't show.
"OOC"?
There actually wasn't a FB group for this. It was all word of mouth. Whenever I do an event with a FB invite, I always send out a post a few days prior asking for a final headcount. If you accepted the invite but don't confirm you're coming, I assume you aren't.
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The guy with the cigarettes also unrolled the toilet paper in my downstairs bathroom. :lol :facepalm:
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The guy with the cigarettes also unrolled the toilet paper in my downstairs bathroom. :lol :facepalm:
Do you live in a fucking dorm?
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The guy with the cigarettes also unrolled the toilet paper in my downstairs bathroom. :lol :facepalm:
What in the actual fuck?
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Sounds like you need to re-evaluate if that guy is actually your friend :facepalm:
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Yeah he's been in rare form since his chick broke up with him at the start of the year. Guy has a sweet job and makes way more money than I do yet he keeps blowing it on cocaine and he's been a real dickhead lately. He's my best friend but even now he's starting to really test my patience. Guess he ain't moving in though, talked to him yesterday and he's gonna keep living with his mom. *shrug* I like living alone anyway. It's expensive but worth it.
I get that best friends give each other shit but there are times I wonder how 'in jest' some of his jabs are. Perhaps I'm just a human doormat, I usually don't care about stuff like that as long as you respect the home itself. Ah, well, you never know with some people, right?
The guy with the cigarettes also unrolled the toilet paper in my downstairs bathroom. :lol :facepalm:
Do you live in a fucking dorm?
No, it's a two floor apartment! Kind of sweet because I'm on the end of the complex, next to a nice dog park, and the unit next to me is vacant, so I get to blast music fairly loudly :2metal:
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What the hell, was that a lame attempt at pranking or is he trying to rebel against you? :lol
When you live with someone, you must make compromises. If he's not willing to give any headway, take none of his shit. He can bunk elsewhere.
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The more you say about your friend, the more I'm thinking you live with Wilfred.
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The more you say about your friend, the more I'm thinking you live with Wilfred.
I hate to say it but this time, I finally don't understand a reference. :lol
Next time he and my other lifelong pal wanna hang out I'm kind of putting the kibosh on it til they get their act together, we're almost 30, stop acting like children and put your carts in the corra- er, put your butts in an ashtray.
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Chino: I feel bad for you; I've been in that situation, and it sucks, just from the wasted effort standpoint.
Katt: You do what you do, but if it was me, I'd have words with that guy. It's not a joke at that point. It's not fun, or funny (thanks Billy!). I'm not a big one for the whole ""disrespect" thing; 9 times out of 10 it's bullshit, but here, it seems legit. It sounds to me like he's trying to make some point, though I can't tell exactly what it is. (And on another note, not being judgmental or anything; what people do is their bizniss, but if you're looking for a roommate to RELY ON - that's the key part of this - I would steer clear of the dude that's burning his disposable income on blow.)
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"OOC"?
There actually wasn't a FB group for this. It was all word of mouth. Whenever I do an event with a FB invite, I always send out a post a few days prior asking for a final headcount. If you accepted the invite but don't confirm you're coming, I assume you aren't.
Out of curiosity, and that makes sense to do.
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Here's my gripe for this morning.
We've always used a simple spreadsheet for our event calendar on the property. They would send out an updated calendar every Friday, which I would save on my (admin) desktop as well as our general non-admin desktop. (I have my own login for obvious reasons). Well now they've changed to an online calendar with outlook. A lot of my employees are too... computer illiterate to use outlook. So now I get to waste paper and print new calendars whenever a new event is added.
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Car in front of my stopped at a green light for a pedestrian-activated crosswalk.
If it's just a regular crosswalk, sure, but when it has a pedestrian-activated light and YOU have the GREEN then you DO NOT STOP. Myself and everyone behind you sees the green light and treats it as such and then you go and stop unexpectedly and dangerously.
Flashing green crosswalk light = go.
Solid green crosswalk light = go.
Yellow-to-red crosswalk light = slow down and stop cuz the pedestrian just activated it.
It feels like this has actually happened to me more times in the last year than in my whole life. If I'm wrong I'd like to know but as far as I know you DO NOT STOP AT A GREEN LIGHT EVER.
Ah, so if a pedestrian is illegaly crossing against the light, and you have the green, you are going to just run them over and keep going, because you do not stop a green light ever? :P
No, I would definitely stop, call the police, tell the officer I didn't see the person (who failed to yield) until it was too late, get insurance information for any damage to my car, and collect my 100 points. :p :lol
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Chino: I feel bad for you; I've been in that situation, and it sucks, just from the wasted effort standpoint.
Katt: You do what you do, but if it was me, I'd have words with that guy. It's not a joke at that point. It's not fun, or funny (thanks Billy!). I'm not a big one for the whole ""disrespect" thing; 9 times out of 10 it's bullshit, but here, it seems legit. It sounds to me like he's trying to make some point, though I can't tell exactly what it is. (And on another note, not being judgmental or anything; what people do is their bizniss, but if you're looking for a roommate to RELY ON - that's the key part of this - I would steer clear of the dude that's burning his disposable income on blow.)
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Even if he didn't decide to live at home, I'd say this behavior has already disqualified him as a roommate. You don't smoke in someone else's home without their permission, whether it's a friend, relative, or acquaintance. If it was at my place, that person would have had about 30 seconds to either go outside or put the cigarette out, and failing that they would have had to find somewhere else to sleep. If you don't mind smoke or think it's worth it for your furniture to absorb the odors in order to help offset the rent, then that's totally fine and the roommate can smoke inside. Otherwise, he should take it outside. And that goes for when the weather is nice as well a when it's raining, snowing, or there's a tornado right outside the window. You don't smoke in someone else's home.
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Katt: You do what you do, but if it was me, I'd have words with that guy. It's not a joke at that point. It's not fun, or funny (thanks Billy!). I'm not a big one for the whole ""disrespect" thing; 9 times out of 10 it's bullshit, but here, it seems legit. It sounds to me like he's trying to make some point, though I can't tell exactly what it is. (And on another note, not being judgmental or anything; what people do is their bizniss, but if you're looking for a roommate to RELY ON - that's the key part of this - I would steer clear of the dude that's burning his disposable income on blow.)
Yeah, that guy is in severe need of an ass-whipping (not you, Stads).
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Currently being pissed off by the estate proceedings for my father. Nothing is actually wrong, I am just sick and fucking tired of dealing with it. There is no contention, I just want it done.
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To the fucker that stole my credit card number and stupidly kept trying to have it keyed in at some hotel, you can go fuck yourself. Dumb move, as from what I hear, your ass was detained at the hotel. :lol
Only prob for me -- "three to five days" to get a replacement primary card. I could force the issue, but not going to ruin my weekend.
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Chino: I feel bad for you; I've been in that situation, and it sucks, just from the wasted effort standpoint.
Katt: You do what you do, but if it was me, I'd have words with that guy. It's not a joke at that point. It's not fun, or funny (thanks Billy!). I'm not a big one for the whole ""disrespect" thing; 9 times out of 10 it's bullshit, but here, it seems legit. It sounds to me like he's trying to make some point, though I can't tell exactly what it is. (And on another note, not being judgmental or anything; what people do is their bizniss, but if you're looking for a roommate to RELY ON - that's the key part of this - I would steer clear of the dude that's burning his disposable income on blow.)
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Even if he didn't decide to live at home, I'd say this behavior has already disqualified him as a roommate. You don't smoke in someone else's home without their permission, whether it's a friend, relative, or acquaintance. If it was at my place, that person would have had about 30 seconds to either go outside or put the cigarette out, and failing that they would have had to find somewhere else to sleep. If you don't mind smoke or think it's worth it for your furniture to absorb the odors in order to help offset the rent, then that's totally fine and the roommate can smoke inside. Otherwise, he should take it outside. And that goes for when the weather is nice as well a when it's raining, snowing, or there's a tornado right outside the window. You don't smoke in someone else's home.
Yeah. I think they take advantage of the fact that I'm really low maintenance and never ask anything of them, so, it's not fair at all. I don't like confrontation or people being upset at me even if I'm 100% in the right. Kinda sucks. But after realizing they don't even want to hang out or chat since I don't want to smoke or drink, it's really unpleasant. You'd think lifelong buds would stick together, but nope.
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Currently being pissed off by the estate proceedings for my father. Nothing is actually wrong, I am just sick and fucking tired of dealing with it. There is no contention, I just want it done.
Are you talking about assets being held in probate? I've heard that can take years.
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Are you talking about assets being held in probate? I've heard that can take years.
No, there was only one thing to go through probate and it's done. This has just been carrying out his wishes, closing accounts, and going through his stuff to sell the house. It's seemingly neverending.
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Currently being pissed off by the estate proceedings for my father. Nothing is actually wrong, I am just sick and fucking tired of dealing with it. There is no contention, I just want it done.
Are you talking about assets being held in probate? I've heard that can take years.
FWIW, for the average person, probate typically takes between 4-18 months. More than that generally only happens if: (1) the deceased was very wealthy; (2) there are disputes between family members, a will contest or a claim that the executor did something nefarious; or (3) there's some sort of lingering tax issue.
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My father had everything except a single checking account in a revokable trust. No probate. The checking account cleared probate within a week or so.
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The dill hole at the gym a bit ago who has clearly never heard of the courtesy flush. I go in there to take a leak after my workout and it was like someone had eaten 6 lbs of chili and then let loose for 20 straight minutes. I almost gagged standing at the urinal. :censored :censored
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Chino: I feel bad for you; I've been in that situation, and it sucks, just from the wasted effort standpoint.
Katt: You do what you do, but if it was me, I'd have words with that guy. It's not a joke at that point. It's not fun, or funny (thanks Billy!). I'm not a big one for the whole ""disrespect" thing; 9 times out of 10 it's bullshit, but here, it seems legit. It sounds to me like he's trying to make some point, though I can't tell exactly what it is. (And on another note, not being judgmental or anything; what people do is their bizniss, but if you're looking for a roommate to RELY ON - that's the key part of this - I would steer clear of the dude that's burning his disposable income on blow.)
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Even if he didn't decide to live at home, I'd say this behavior has already disqualified him as a roommate. You don't smoke in someone else's home without their permission, whether it's a friend, relative, or acquaintance. If it was at my place, that person would have had about 30 seconds to either go outside or put the cigarette out, and failing that they would have had to find somewhere else to sleep. If you don't mind smoke or think it's worth it for your furniture to absorb the odors in order to help offset the rent, then that's totally fine and the roommate can smoke inside. Otherwise, he should take it outside. And that goes for when the weather is nice as well a when it's raining, snowing, or there's a tornado right outside the window. You don't smoke in someone else's home.
Yeah. I think they take advantage of the fact that I'm really low maintenance and never ask anything of them, so, it's not fair at all. I don't like confrontation or people being upset at me even if I'm 100% in the right. Kinda sucks. But after realizing they don't even want to hang out or chat since I don't want to smoke or drink, it's really unpleasant. You'd think lifelong buds would stick together, but nope.
I don't like people being upset at me either - I guess especially when I know I'm in the right because then they're mad at me for no reason. At least if I was somewhat in the wrong, then there's a reason for it and I can apologize, etc. But sometimes you just don't have a choice - you can let them ruin your stuff or take advantage in other ways, or tell them enough's enough. It's sad about the smoking and drinking too - I'm pretty sure that you're not trying to convince them not to, so they should respect that you don't want to, and really who cares? If the one guy is your best friend and he's going through a bad time - maybe you can just have a talk with him and he'll realize what he's been doing.
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Yeah. I think they take advantage of the fact that I'm really low maintenance and never ask anything of them, so, it's not fair at all. I don't like confrontation or people being upset at me even if I'm 100% in the right. Kinda sucks. But after realizing they don't even want to hang out or chat since I don't want to smoke or drink, it's really unpleasant. You'd think lifelong buds would stick together, but nope.
Dude, nobody really likes confrontation, but this is a no-brainer. This POS clearly doesn't give a shit about you. At. All. So why keep using the "lifelong bud" thing when you clearly don't mean anything to them even though they mean something to you? You gotta cut him/them loose or else you're going to go to a bad place internally and then that's when bad things really happen.
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My wife is having a beef with a friend she's known since high school. They went to college together then my wife moved several states away (this is 20 years ago). They talk over facebook periodically and see each other rarely. I have heard stories about how this gal has done things to upset my wife over the years (petty bs reasons, but still...) and the friend has, to my mind, made no real effort to maintain any sort of friendship. But my wife doesn't want to "throw away all the history they have established." I never got the "lifelong bud" or "we've been friends for 20 years, we have to keep being friends" mentality.
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Yeah. I think they take advantage of the fact that I'm really low maintenance and never ask anything of them, so, it's not fair at all. I don't like confrontation or people being upset at me even if I'm 100% in the right. Kinda sucks. But after realizing they don't even want to hang out or chat since I don't want to smoke or drink, it's really unpleasant. You'd think lifelong buds would stick together, but nope.
Dude, nobody really likes confrontation, but this is a no-brainer. This POS clearly doesn't give a shit about you. At. All. So why keep using the "lifelong bud" thing when you clearly don't mean anything to them even though they mean something to you? You gotta cut him/them loose or else you're going to go to a bad place internally and then that's when bad things really happen.
'cause I have 25 years of history with the guy and know him a lot better than ya'll do. No offense, but it's true. He does give a shit about me otherwise he would've never given me some pretty awesome gifts for no reason other than he wanted to give me some awesome gifts. He's just been a douche lately. I can tell the guy I don't want to hang or have him over and still be friends, it's not like it's a one or the other situation. The more he goes into coke, the less I want to associate. Doesn't mean I'm going to cut him out of my life forever over this
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But here's the thing: I'm totally down with "not throwing away history", but that's not to say that you need to cultivate the abuse. There are no rules here, and there are no absolutes. There's no reason you can't create a little distance for your own (maybe temporary, maybe more permanent) well being.
I'm a big fan of the concept of the "emotional bank account". If you spend spend spend, without replenishing in any way, it's only a finite resource. I find that I spend less and less time with those that continue to withdraw without any replenishment. It sounds like your friend HAS replenished throughout the years, and that's good. But maybe while he's in withdrawal mode, you just keep a (maybe temporary, maybe permanent) hold on the pursestrings.
(And I'm just being honest here: I'm open-minded when it comes to substances. I love my liquor, I judge no one on their ganja intake, or muchrooms, etc. I even had a girlfriend who's brother was big into horse, and it was what it was. I have ZERO good experiences with cocaine use among friends. It's the devil's dandruff, in my opinion, and also in my opinion, it changes people, and not for the better. I don't mean "just brings out other aspects", like liquor does, but actually changes people. I'd consider that as well as you plot your next move.)
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But here's the thing: I'm totally down with "not throwing away history", but that's not to say that you need to cultivate the abuse. There are no rules here, and there are no absolutes. There's no reason you can't create a little distance for your own (maybe temporary, maybe more permanent) well being.
I'm a big fan of the concept of the "emotional bank account". If you spend spend spend, without replenishing in any way, it's only a finite resource. I find that I spend less and less time with those that continue to withdraw without any replenishment. It sounds like your friend HAS replenished throughout the years, and that's good. But maybe while he's in withdrawal mode, you just keep a (maybe temporary, maybe permanent) hold on the pursestrings.
(And I'm just being honest here: I'm open-minded when it comes to substances. I love my liquor, I judge no one on their ganja intake, or muchrooms, etc. I even had a girlfriend who's brother was big into horse, and it was what it was. I have ZERO good experiences with cocaine use among friends. It's the devil's dandruff, in my opinion, and also in my opinion, it changes people, and not for the better. I don't mean "just brings out other aspects", like liquor does, but actually changes people. I'd consider that as well as you plot your next move.)
No, I totally get that. As a massive introvert even after a couple hours with my best friends I need them to go away so I can recharge and have my 'me time.' Factor in behavior like this and it's super easy for me to cut out socializing with them, but I still have a deep love for the guys because we have a lifelong history. Not many people you can you've been friends - best friends - with for 25 years when you're not even 30, y'know. Despite my disdain for the cocaine and how he's treating himself, I can't live his life for him, but that doesn't mean I'm suddenly not gonna be friends with him. Just keeping my distance because 1) I want nothing to do with hard drugs and 2) proximity to that kind of lifestyle is not beneficial to me and my current goals, which is to be healthy and keep a steady regiment of exercise and sobriety. I know he's going through a rough time, so I'm all ears when he needs to vent or talk to someone or figure out how to handle recovering from a bad breakup.
Just maybe not in my home anymore, til he is clean. :)
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Are you talking about assets being held in probate? I've heard that can take years.
No, there was only one thing to go through probate and it's done. This has just been carrying out his wishes, closing accounts, and going through his stuff to sell the house. It's seemingly neverending.
My ex-gf and I had to go through that when her mom passed last year. Very difficult and stressful. :(
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I'm a big fan of the concept of the "emotional bank account". If you spend spend spend, without replenishing in any way, it's only a finite resource. I find that I spend less and less time with those that continue to withdraw without any replenishment. It sounds like your friend HAS replenished throughout the years, and that's good. But maybe while he's in withdrawal mode, you just keep a (maybe temporary, maybe permanent) hold on the pursestrings.
...or he could impose a "tariff"... ;D
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Home from work and some yahoo has parked their enormous 5th wheeler along the side of our house. It takes up half the street near an intersection that is already limited in visibility - and is blocking a school bus stop to boot. So now I'll just make some popcorn and see how many close calls and accidents occur before the cops show up. ::)
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I'm a big fan of the concept of the "emotional bank account". If you spend spend spend, without replenishing in any way, it's only a finite resource. I find that I spend less and less time with those that continue to withdraw without any replenishment. It sounds like your friend HAS replenished throughout the years, and that's good. But maybe while he's in withdrawal mode, you just keep a (maybe temporary, maybe permanent) hold on the pursestrings.
...or he could impose a "tariff"... ;D
You do that to give me heartburn, don't you?
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I'm a big fan of the concept of the "emotional bank account". If you spend spend spend, without replenishing in any way, it's only a finite resource. I find that I spend less and less time with those that continue to withdraw without any replenishment. It sounds like your friend HAS replenished throughout the years, and that's good. But maybe while he's in withdrawal mode, you just keep a (maybe temporary, maybe permanent) hold on the pursestrings.
...or he could impose a "tariff"... ;D
You do that to give me heartburn, don't you?
:lol
Bigly.
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WARNING - VENTING TO FOLLOW
Some of you know, both my parents died last fall 2 weeks apart. It has taken up until now to get my childhood home ready and on the market. We listed it the first week of August and got a bid with earnest money 2 weeks later. Prior to putting it on the market, we had an inspection and so knew we had a few things needed to be done - specifically some work in the crawl space and a small amount of electrical work. The offer was for 20K less than asking, we countered with 10K less and the original asking was specific - AS IS (with the exception noted above) - and the counter was accepted. So far so good, right?
Well our realtor referred us to a company for the crawl space work. We gave him our inspection and he came in with this outrageous bid - about 5K - with a bunch of stuff not included in the inspection (sump pump, more electrical work). So we asked for a re-bid to ONLY include the scope of the inspection. A week later, we got a reduced bid that we were willing to go with.
Well along the process our realtor blabbed the info about the original bid to the prospective buyer's realtor and the buyers wanted to see it. We said, "No way - it's just a bid, nothing has been agreed to." Well they then went to this same company who did the original bid and this guy essentially gave them our bid! Now they are demanding we do the full job he recommended in the original bid.
I'm furious. Our realtor f-ed up big time but this contractor is 100% unethical to bid on the same project twice. I've got 2 appointments for new bids on the work this coming Friday but this will delay the sale and may even cause the buyers to back out. For me, it isn't about the money at this point but the fact that there is NO WAY I'm working with this contractor going forward.
So my question is this....am I being unreasonable here? I just have it stuck in my craw that I don't want to reward someone with a contract and money for being an unethical d-bag. Principles only mean something if you stick with them even when it's inconvenient for you, right? Ugh - someone talk me down off this ledge of agitation. :censored
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I'd fire that fuckin contractor. Quoting the owner, and a prospective owner for the same job is low. Isn't there any confidentiality agreed to in the pricing? Lesson learned... there should be. You should also tear a strip into your realtor for disclosing something that neither needed to - or should have been - disclosed to the buyer, and now may impact the price or sale entirely. Perhaps they should cover the extra costs.
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I agree with Chad.
Your agent fucked up big time. They should find a way to fix this. ($$$)
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Fuck the agent and double fuck the contractor.
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So I'm not saying the contractor isn't a douche but he doesn't owe anything to the seller, but the issue really lies with the Agent, who I would fire immediately.
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Thanks guys. Had a long chat with the realtor today. He knows we are not happy. The contractor is fired. I used words like "unethical" and was clear that contractor is not allowed in that house until after we have vacated and he is someone else's hire.
I stood firm on staying within the scope of the work our inspection showed was necessary and said 'absolutely not' to the other things they wanted. If we lose the offer, then so be it.
I am no longer pissed off. I'm actually pretty proud of myself for standing up to the fear of possibly losing the bid and telling the realtor how I felt about the whole situation.
We'll see what happens next.
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Drawing the 6th pick in a 12 team Fantasy Football Draft. Pretty much the worst position to be in.
And Harmony......Great job standing your ground and staying strong. :tup
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Drawing the 6th pick in a 12 team Fantasy Football Draft. Pretty much the worst position to be in.
It's 6 picks better than 12!
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Drawing the 6th pick in a 12 team Fantasy Football Draft. Pretty much the worst position to be in.
It's 6 picks better than 12!
But 12 gets two picks in a row. It's a 'snake' draft. So, even though you're 12th you can still nab a couple players at once. 6th position is terrible.
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I'm confused...no need to explain.
That's funny you mentioned that. I heard the term snake draft for the first time in my life this afternoon.
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Harmony, I am not an agent but have worked with plenty of them and several contractors in the course of my last employment. You have every right to be upset. If the buyers back out, then let them - assuming delaying the sale won't hurt you financially.
My only confusion is why you had an inspection done prior to listing it. I know some agents like to do this on older homes or rehabbed ones (which we did a few of), but any prospective buyer is going to have their own inspection done.
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Thanks, gmillerdrake! I am not a huge fan of confrontations in general and while I think our realtor is not a bad guy (he did screw up here) he's kind of like a used car salesman - fast talker, changes the subject a lot. It's annoying and I don't deal well with that type for long. And the fact that he never even acknowledged his error or apologized bothers me. But at this point, I really don't want to start over with another realtor. Plus I'd have to check the contract but I think once the house is listed, I can't anyway for 60 days or something like that.
Harmony, I am not an agent but have worked with plenty of them and several contractors in the course of my last employment. You have every right to be upset. If the buyers back out, then let them - assuming delaying the sale won't hurt you financially.
My only confusion is why you had an inspection done prior to listing it. I know some agents like to do this on older homes or rehabbed ones (which we did a few of), but any prospective buyer is going to have their own inspection done.
We just didn't want any surprises. My parents bought the home in the 80s and while they kept up on some of the maintenance, they didn't do much with the foundation, big trees, deck, etc. If there was going to be $25K worth of dry rot, I wanted to know about it before we put it on the market. We knew the potential buyer would do their own inspection too.
We can swing the payments for now. So if the buyers walk, it won't be the end of the world. But if the economy tanks, it could become worrisome.
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Good plan. We (as investors) never wanted to do a pre-list inspection, but we also did a ton of work on each property so were more knowledgeable about it than an "average" seller would be about their home.
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Inspections done by the seller certainly are rare, but in Harmony's case it makes total sense.
Good on ya Harmony for holding firm. The only thing prospective buyers are entitled to are the inspection report - certainly not contractor's quotes.
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my boss
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NOT LEGAL ADVICE (Sorry, I have to write that), but...
If you start to incur losses on this it's not the worst thing in the world to call your attorney (who did you use for the estate work? Who were you going to use on the sale itself?) and inquire into your state's laws regarding agent duty. I believe you may have an angle to get out of any ongoing obligations with that agent, and even if you don't, you may be able to negotiate an out in exchange for other considerations (i.e. a report to the local licensing board, or something similar).
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I was thinking the same thing. Seemed the agent was the one who undermined the whole thing. I didn’t quite understand the blame going to the contractor. There definitely Should be an out in that listing contract for f the realtor doesn’t act in your best interest.
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Generally speaking the real estate agent has a fiduciary duty to his/her client, and that includes keeping confidential information confidential. The only problem there is it depends a little bit on the wording of the agreement that is signed (for example, if the agent believes he has the consent of his client to disclose, it's a different ballgame). Again, I can't determine that from here, but it's worth relating the story to your attorney and get their take on it.
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Generally speaking the real estate agent has a fiduciary duty to his/her client, and that includes keeping confidential information confidential. The only problem there is it depends a little bit on the wording of the agreement that is signed (for example, if the agent believes he has the consent of his client to disclose, it's a different ballgame). Again, I can't determine that from here, but it's worth relating the story to your attorney and get their take on it.
As someone that deals with this everyday, Stads is correct. Unless you gave permission for your agent to release the full scope of the information, he/she shattered their fiduciary duty to you and you have more than enough ammo to get out of your listing agreement should you choose to do so (start with the local Realtor Association for help reviewing the situation). The buyers can pay for their own Home Inspection... unless you wish to release your inspection to them... and home inspection information is never released to the other party unless there are requests for repairs (normally from Buyer to Seller). Your listing is As-Is so there would be no need to release any information anyway.
If both of these agents work for the same Brokerage and are in the same office, then the conversation could have been turned by the buyer's agent to try and get that info (sounds as if your agent may be a bit inexperienced or perhaps not used to co-workers pulling information from them)... maybe for grounds to re-negotiate the contract price if there's some buyer remorse regarding the price they agreed to pay. I see stuff like this all the time... and Harmony, you nailed the mindset of a good chunk of Realtors in my area with the "used Car Salesman" tag... I'd say it's 60/40. 60% know what their doing and respect the bounds of their profession and 40% will cut your throat with the pen you sign the contract with and throw you under the moving van when something goes wrong to save their thin reputations. The 40% usually don't last long.
The contractor has no fiduciary responsibility to you (unless you signed a contract with them), but sharing bids with the third-party purchasing the home that you still own is sideways and doesn't bode well for the contractor's trustworthiness in my estimation. That's a good way to ruin a reputation unless the contract knows the agents involved and was trying to impress someone. Not a good way to do business in any case.
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I very much appreciate all the advice. And honestly, if it were just up to me, I'd probably be looking for another realtor. He did say that when he mentioned the contractor (who is now fired) he did so as a means to let the potential buyer's realtor know that we were moving on the crawlspace issues. He was trying to get them to bite, in other words. He's been selling homes for decades. If I want to cut him the tiniest amount of slack, I'd say he let his bravado get ahead of him and he just slipped up.
The potential buyer's realtor does not work for the same company. That thought occurred to me as well but it is not the case. I do think the realtors like to work with certain companies for contracting work, inspections, etc., and thus know all the reputations. I wouldn't be surprised if there were quid pro quo attitudes if not direct kickbacks. But I cannot prove that.
I'm not the executor of my parent's estates - one of my siblings is. And honestly my siblings are done. We've been dealing with this stuff for almost a year and I understand that. I'm the one pushing this issue and the response is, "Yeah, but we need to sell this house now." So I'm sort of stuck in the middle of that part of it.
TAC - I understand what you are saying about the contractor. This isn't the only reason. They've been unprofessional from the get go. The reason why I am so adamant that he be fired is because I think it is improper to work up a bid for a homeowner then essentially pass it off to a potential buyer after it was requested by the homeowner to modify the scope of repairs to fit the inspection report. This guy got his panties in a bunch because we didn't accept his first bid and then deliberately went behind our backs to stick it to us. No - that guy is toast. He's not getting a fucking penny from me.
Interesting aside - my brother-in-law was calling around to get more bids today. One company told him they had an appointment already on the books next week for my parent's address on behalf of the potential buyers. The company also told him that legally they had to give the report to us as well, as we are the homeowners. This also tells me that the buyers aren't ready to walk yet.
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Best thing I've read here is that I get ZERO sense of panic on your part. Keep that. I call it "Deal Fever", and there's nothing worse (if you're on the same side) or better (if you're on the other side) if you're working it. There's a real benefit to patience, and I see you showing that now. Let the dust settle a bit, hold your guns and see what comes back.
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I'm not the executor of my parent's estates - one of my siblings is. And honestly my siblings are done. We've been dealing with this stuff for almost a year and I understand that. I'm the one pushing this issue and the response is, "Yeah, but we need to sell this house now." So I'm sort of stuck in the middle of that part of it.
Can you just offer credits for the work? My father in law sold his house and the work to get the buyers what they wanted after the inspection (rerouting a water heater vent) would have been too costly. So our realtor advised that we just credit the price by X amount (about the same as the quote for repairs, maybe a little less). We dropped the price and they accepted.
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I don't know about ZERO sense of panic. But so far, I'm keeping that sensation quiet and controlled. :chill :chill :chill
Can you just offer credits for the work? My father in law sold his house and the work to get the buyers what they wanted after the inspection (rerouting a water heater vent) would have been too costly. So our realtor advised that we just credit the price by X amount (about the same as the quote for repairs, maybe a little less). We dropped the price and they accepted.
We are actually considering taking the 4 or so bids we are getting for the crawl space work and averaging them then going to the prospective buyers and offering them a cash adjustment. The first bid under the scope of our inspection came in at 1,800.00. So depending on what pans out this week, we may offer them 2,500.00 (or so) and let them do the repairs with whomever they choose. It's better than nothing for them and we don't have to mess with the repairs at all. But we are still waiting to hear from them at this point.
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That's the optimal approach, because as long as the rest of the contract language is consistently "as-is", you're transferring the risk to them.
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The exorbitant cost and general poor quality of murphy beds. We renovated our basement, and since we don't have a 3rd bedroom this will be the guest sleeping area. We want a real mattress rather than a sofa bed, so murphy bed is the best solution. The best option seems to be Lori wall beds (https://www.loriwallbeds.com/products/lori-wall-bed?variant=12992154042412), which have no hinge/spring mechanism, but they are still $1000. Since they are made of plywood rather than MDF, the quality should be pretty good, but damn, $1000!
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I have a friend who had a custom murphy bed made and it was upwards of $3000 (but he used some sort of expensive wood). I slept on it once, it wasn't very comfortable. But it is beautiful.
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Update for anyone who has been following my saga. Buyers rejected the offer of $2500 and continued to focus on a tree they want cut down (hard no - it's on the border with a neighbor who's a giant asshole and no way we are dealing with that). I was all for walking away. But I was over-ruled by my siblings who are seriously done with the whole thing and ultimately we upped the offer of cash for the crawlspace work plus incentive $ to the tune of about $4400. They accepted and so we're done.
I was a little bit disgruntled about the way it all went down but at the end of the day, I felt a couple of grand was worth their mental health and our continued happy family relationships. I will be a good sport about it. And I had the best sleep in months last night so that tells me it was all weighing on me as well. Good to be done with this part. :smiley:
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Very happy for your harmony. Hopefully it continues to be smooth sailing until you have the cheque in your hands / deposited
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Lots of negotiating and give and take can sour the taste of a purchase and sale but it sounds like you were able to deal with all the giving and made the best decision for you and your family.
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but at the end of the day, I felt a couple of grand was worth their mental health and our continued happy family relationships.
Easily
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Good for you, Harmony. I know everyone is different, but I know I could sleep at night with that outcome as well.
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Just when I thought the drama/saga was finally coming to an end.... :censored
The last day we have possession of our mother's house is the 22nd. The buyers take ownership midnight the 23rd. We are set to sign all the legal documents at 10 am tomorrow.
Part of the final agreement was that the crawl space work would be completed by that date. Yesterday they began the work under the house. So I go over there last night to put the garbage cans out for the last time and when I enter the home, I see a giant divot in the hardwood laminate in the kitchen and several holes in the walls in the bathrooms - including upstairs. I'm freaking out thinking the crawl space guys did all this damage and now we are going to be held responsible to make sure the home is fixed in only a few days.
Get this - it gets better! ::) Come to find out the buyers brought a contractor over yesterday while the crawl space guys were working and this contractor made the holes and damaged the floor. The buyers had zero authorization to be there. Their realtor now claims he was to meet them there and had a flat tire (bullshit). Even if he had met them there, he was not authorized to be in there and we had the realtor locks changed out so ONLY the crawl space guys could get in. The buyers just traipsed in while the garage was open for the crawlspace guys. I'm furious.
Spoke to our attorney who is handling the estate. Any action we take at this point can definitely jeopardize the sale. I am so close to filing a police report for criminal trespass and vandalism on this contractor and the buyers. I am simply dumbfounded at the sheer brazenness and entitlement of some people.
One thing is for damn sure. Our plans to clean that house from top to bottom on Sunday are done. We will leave them a filthy house for all I care. Screw them.
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You know this, I'm sure, so this is for everyone else as much as you: document the shit out of the damage - photos, phone logs, take notes of conversations including dates and times, etc. - and if you can do it cheaply and quickly, get an estimate on what the damage might be to fix. Hold this through the next four days. If they take possession cleanly, there's no real damage and you can chalk this up as a great story about a pack of assholes that you got one over on (seriously). If they try ANY last minute bullshit, renegotiations, or games with the closing, BAM, you have the Hammer of Thor to throw if you need it.
I'll tell you what though; f*** people. There's no honor or decorum anymore. And while you are closer and have more insight than I do, I don't sense it was malicious as much as it is just stupid and inconsiderate, but still. I grew up with the notion that someone's house was a sacred thing; the most expensive thing that most people would ever buy, and the place they put their families and their LIVES. Now? It's a set on a shitty reno show on HGTV. (Not to veer off on too much of a tangent, but you ever notice that? On those renovation shows like Property Brothers, people go into other people's houses and make the most rude and disparaging comments. I might THINK it, but as Daryl Hall once said, "some things are better left unsaid." Those are people's HOMES.)
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You know this, I'm sure, so this is for everyone else as much as you: document the shit out of the damage - photos, phone logs, take notes of conversations including dates and times, etc. - and if you can do it cheaply and quickly, get an estimate on what the damage might be to fix. Hold this through the next four days. If they take possession cleanly, there's no real damage and you can chalk this up as a great story about a pack of assholes that you got one over on (seriously). If they try ANY last minute bullshit, renegotiations, or games with the closing, BAM, you have the Hammer of Thor to throw if you need it.
This is what I was thinking. Get through the signing and transfer of ownership and get these people out of your life. They've been nothing but a headache and stress for you so unless it's absolutely necessary I'd just bite my tongue so to speak and bide your time until they are no longer a part of your life.
Unless they do like Bill says....they try some stuff then you have this mindless act on their part as ammunition to combat whatever silliness they were to try.
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You know this, I'm sure, so this is for everyone else as much as you: document the shit out of the damage - photos, phone logs, take notes of conversations including dates and times, etc. - and if you can do it cheaply and quickly, get an estimate on what the damage might be to fix. Hold this through the next four days. If they take possession cleanly, there's no real damage and you can chalk this up as a great story about a pack of assholes that you got one over on (seriously). If they try ANY last minute bullshit, renegotiations, or games with the closing, BAM, you have the Hammer of Thor to throw if you need it.
I'll tell you what though; f*** people. There's no honor or decorum anymore. And while you are closer and have more insight than I do, I don't sense it was malicious as much as it is just stupid and inconsiderate, but still. I grew up with the notion that someone's house was a sacred thing; the most expensive thing that most people would ever buy, and the place they put their families and their LIVES. Now? It's a set on a shitty reno show on HGTV. (Not to veer off on too much of a tangent, but you ever notice that? On those renovation shows like Property Brothers, people go into other people's houses and make the most rude and disparaging comments. I might THINK it, but as Daryl Hall once said, "some things are better left unsaid." Those are people's HOMES.)
Thanks to you and gmillerdrake for your replies. I just got back from the house where me and my siblings walked through and documented and photographed everything just as you suggested. I agree with you in that I don't think it was malicious but extremely pushy and entitled on the buyer's part. And I also agree that part of what stings about all of this is that it felt like such a violation of what you say is a "sacred thing." And really the last big "thing" that represents my mother and our childhood.
At one point, we talked about having our last day at the house be like an open house for the friends and neighbors of my mom to come by and walk through the house one last time and say goodbye. She entertained there for years and her backyard barbecues and holiday open houses were well-thought of by everyone. In the end, we opted not to do so as it would've been a lot of work considering we no longer have a functioning fridge, oven, or dishwasher - haha! But it's the principle of the thing. We should've been able to if we chose to without having gaping holes in the floor/walls. It feels like our last few days in her home have been diminished in a way by this complete lack of respect for her HOME. That hurts more than anything.
But in a few days it will be done and life will move on. My mom would not want us to get mired down in any legal issues on her behalf so we will let it go (providing they don't do anything stupid at closing).
My sister and I are trying to figure out if we can conjure up the ghost of our mother to haunt that house for the next 30 years. THAT is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy! :laugh:
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Again... I see this all the time and judging by what you've said previously about the "professionals" involved I'm not at all surprised. I'm truly sorry that your final few memories of this home are a bit tainted; perhaps you can let the better memories wash the taste of this transaction out of your mind.
I again agree with Gary and Stads... bite your tongue unless they try something during the final walk-through or at Closing. If the damage is even mentioned in passing, still bite your tongue. Once the Deed and DOT are signed by the buyer and it's their "home" just get out of there and wash your hands of it.
If you want to freak them out a bit, put an old tape player in that crawl space and leave a loop of The Grand Conjuration running at half speed... put it in a place where they have to really look for it. :biggrin:
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Again... I see this all the time and judging by what you've said previously about the "professionals" involved I'm not at all surprised. I'm truly sorry that your final few memories of this home are a bit tainted; perhaps you can let the better memories wash the taste of this transaction out of your mind.
I again agree with Gary and Stads... bite your tongue unless they try something during the final walk-through or at Closing. If the damage is even mentioned in passing, still bite your tongue. Once the Deed and DOT are signed by the buyer and it's their "home" just get out of there and wash your hands of it.
If you want to freak them out a bit, put an old tape player in that crawl space and leave a loop of The Grand Conjuration running at half speed... put it in a place where they have to really look for it. :biggrin:
Behind the drywall. :lol
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Since we're only discussing hypothetical possibilities that you would NEVER act on, I know a cluster of bananas dropped in the crawl space will be the gift that keeps on giving as well. But I'm not recommending that in any way. ;)
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:lol I love where this thread has gone
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Since we're only discussing hypothetical possibilities that you would NEVER act on, I know a cluster of bananas dropped in the crawl space will be the gift that keeps on giving as well. But I'm not recommending that in any way. ;)
:hefdaddy
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Absolutely not recommending an equal part mixture of eggs, milk and vinegar left somewhere warm for a couple of days.
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Or the old wives tale of leaving shrimp inside the curtain rods.
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A coworker of mine found a full pound of rotted ground beef up n the attic of the house he recently bought. Not that has anything to do with this story...
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Or the old wives tale of leaving shrimp inside the curtain rods.
I was thinking of that story but couldn't remember what it was that was left in the rods.
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A coworker of mine found a full pound of rotted ground beef up n the attic of the house he recently bought.
On the subject of cow parts, I found a BK burger (sans fries and fixings but still in the wrapper) when helping someone replace their indoor staircase. Luckily for the owners, the burger decided to mummify itself instead of turning into a bio-weapon. This was probably the first time I was grateful these things have more preservatives than a pharma factory.
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:D I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! That decent human beings would even think of such things!! :P
You'll all be happy to know, I read your suggestions to my family. We all had a good laugh. And quite a few of us were nodding in agreement.
We said our final goodbye to the house today. But of course, there was one last bit of drama. :corn
Apparently the buyers sold their house last week and thus they wanted to close last Friday vs. tomorrow. Technically that means they could've taken possession at 5 pm Friday, but we still had a few things to finish up and remove so that wasn't going to happen. Our realtor attempted to get us to relinquish today at 1 pm vs. midnight as previously agreed upon. I had to laugh. I told him that based on their actions last week I wasn't inclined to do them any favors. He sensed the intensity of my voice and didn't argue. And that allowed my family this one last day to say goodbye without any "stuff" to get done.
So worth it.
And we did leave a little present for them....they won't find for a long time....
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It would seem my fucking septic tank pump is on the fritz. It had been running non-stop for a few weeks, and I'd checked in on it last weekend - the tank was as empty as it usually is, but still running - perhaps a glitch with the floater. I'd been meaning to call the company that I used for the inspection last year, but hadn't gotten around to it. Well, now that tank is full, and the pump doesn't seem to be doing anything despite the fact I can hear it humming away. >:(
Always on a Sunday evening, eh?
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It would seem my fucking septic tank pump is on the fritz. It had been running non-stop for a few weeks, and I'd checked in on it last weekend - the tank was as empty as it usually is, but still running - perhaps a glitch with the floater. I'd been meaning to call the company that I used for the inspection last year, but hadn't gotten around to it. Well, now that tank is full, and the pump doesn't seem to be doing anything despite the fact I can hear it humming away. >:(
Always on a Sunday evening, eh?
Amen to that, brother. We are having a similar issues. We had to replace the floater last year, and we just got pumped last week because we backed up again. Seems it's not leeching. We have the company coming out to inspect for the cause of the issues this week.
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The whole week but;
Work
My boss
His stupid boss
Staff members who get paid too much and are dumb cunts.
Staff members that want money for nothing and don't want to work or have any responsibility.
Parents that defend their children when you tell them off when they are little cunts and need a flogging and cleary doing the wrong thing.
So called friends that haven't a clue about you and don't want to.
Being a boss and supporting and helping everyone yet there's no support in return as you are deemed as the rock solid one everyone goes to with their problems.
Complaining customers.
My footy team bowing out of the comp.
Staff members that use the microwave and can't fucking clean it. Why is it me cleaning it every Friday afternoon?
The hotter weather coming.
Realising even though you've made good money in the last 10 years and halfway have set yourself up you're a victim of your own situation and too weak to change and you work for a pack of backstabbing pricks.
Dickheads that just go to the gym to fuck around and get in my way.
Just feeling like you are alone on this earth even when surrounded by people and everyone around you just seem like aliens. Do I really think and have a different mindset to everyone I come in contact with? Feels that way. (Besides the misses)
I think that's everything. Sorry everyone I just needed to write all that down somewhere. It's been a rough week. Carry on. I feel a bit better now.
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If I still had an office, I'd frame that post and hang it up. :lol
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If I still had an office, I'd frame that post and hang it up. :lol
Put it in your guest bathroom
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:lol
Motherfuckers!!
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If I still had an office, I'd frame that post and hang it up. :lol
I was serious and I wasn't trying to be funny. :( But I'm glad I made you laugh. :)
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If I still had an office, I'd frame that post and hang it up. :lol
I was serious and I wasn't trying to be funny. :( But I'm glad I made you laugh. :)
I feel like if I ever had to retreat to my office in a fit of frustration I would read that and immediately feel better. Not feel better at your peril, but I would read it and release my frustrations as you did.
Like you said..
I feel a bit better now.
:)
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:tup
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If I still had an office, I'd frame that post and hang it up. :lol
Agreed.
Currently my dog has pissed me off. 3 years I've had this motherfucker and today, for the first time ever, he decides to open the garbage and help himself to some rotisserie chicken. He only had a little before I got to him. He is an almost perfect dog but like twice a year he decides he'll do something to test his limits.
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Just feeling like you are alone on this earth even when surrounded by people and everyone around you just seem like aliens. Do I really think and have a different mindset to everyone I come in contact with? Feels that way. (Besides the misses)
I have that feeling easily twice a day. No joke, no exaggeration. Twice a day. And you can only go through and re-evaluate and "question" so many times. And yet, there's ultimately a core to which you have to stay true.
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I have that feeling easily twice a day. No joke, no exaggeration. Twice a day.
I suspect that feeling is always there in the background, at least for most people I know - I'm becoming convinced that there are as many different realities as there are people, and anyone outside one's own reality is pretty much an alien. Said feeling tends to jump out and whack you on the head at the most inconvenient times, and some are better able than other to beat it into submission, or just say "meh, so what?". Both take some practice.
And you can only go through and re-evaluate and "question" so many times. And yet, there's ultimately a core to which you have to stay true.
This. Because no matter how good you get at performing for other people's benefit, you can only lie to yourself for so long. At some point it becomes too expensive and impractical.
/There endeth my philosophical diatribe for the day.
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Just feeling like you are alone on this earth even when surrounded by people and everyone around you just seem like aliens. Do I really think and have a different mindset to everyone I come in contact with? Feels that way. (Besides the misses)
I have that feeling easily twice a day. No joke, no exaggeration. Twice a day.
Yeah, the two times a day you go into the P/R side. :lol
Just feeling like you are alone on this earth even when surrounded by people and everyone around you just seem like aliens. Do I really think and have a different mindset to everyone I come in contact with? Feels that way. (Besides the misses)
Since this line is getting some play, it reminded me of a thought I had while I was fucking STUCK in traffic last week. As much as I love my alone time, I am so thankful for my wife, because I would literally go insane if I was the only one I could talk to every day.
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Yeah, the two times a day you go into the P/R side. :lol
Post of the year.
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Didn't mean to bring up a whole thing with that line but I'm glad people are catching on, means I'm onto something and not fucking crazy. Well, you know what I mean.
I am so thankful for my wife, because I would literally go insane if I was the only one I could talk to every day.
That's why I mentioned her in that line.
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Just feeling like you are alone on this earth even when surrounded by people and everyone around you just seem like aliens. Do I really think and have a different mindset to everyone I come in contact with? Feels that way. (Besides the misses)
I have that feeling easily twice a day. No joke, no exaggeration. Twice a day. And you can only go through and re-evaluate and "question" so many times. And yet, there's ultimately a core to which you have to stay true.
I have had it at least 4 times today here at work and it's 2:45pm. :lol
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Yeah, the two times a day you go into the P/R side. :lol
Post of the year.
Well that certainly makes it worse. And certainly there the stakes are higher. But it's beyond that; the roulettes, sometimes (I haven't finished in the top HALF even, except for one, and for the most part, I'm sending music that resonates with me). I watch reality TV and there are times I'm literally uncomfortable watching some of those people act. I just can't imagine having that little what I call shame, that little what I call dignity (and I say "what I call" to acknowledge that they might be right and it might be me). We're going through some shit as a family, and it's almost dizzying how two households can view the very same event almost completely differently (and - with kids involved - use two almost completely different standards to evaluate it).
It's troubling to me, though, because as a commercial attorney, it's my JOB to at least understand what the other side is thinking/doing, in order to find a set where we overlap and can come to agreement. It's not a pleasant feeling to sense you've lost that skillset.
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Yeah, the two times a day you go into the P/R side. :lol
Post of the year.
Well that certainly makes it worse.
You do know that I was kidding, right? You're usually fighting off the crowd on most days. :)
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Not today, but yesterday.
I spent the weekend visiting my sister on her new house (really nice home) in PA. After a 3 hour drive back to the city, I was ready to just sit back and relax. Except that about 30 people decided to have a religious (borderline witchcraft) party across the street from me. They were taking over the sidewalk with tables of food, a shrine for some saint, a group with a dominoes (not the pizza) table, and a bunch of them just sitting around, dancing, playing loud music and drinking. They do this frequently over the summer but this time it was a little too loud.
I waited almost 2 hours before calling 311 and placing a noise complaint with the mindset of, "let them do their thing, as long as they don't do it for too long". 1 hour went by and they were getting louder by the minute. I followed up with the noise complaint and the response I got "your local precinct resolved the situation already" I decided to just leave it alone, closed my window, turned on the AC and started blasting TV to drown out the noise, except that even with the TV at volume 50, I could still hear their music (this one song they repeated 15 times (I counted) from 5-9pm). The "party" continued until 11pm when a hit-and-run happened with one of their cars.
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Yeah, the two times a day you go into the P/R side. :lol
Post of the year.
Well that certainly makes it worse.
You do know that I was kidding, right? You're usually fighting off the crowd on most days. :)
Haha, yes. Going back, I was not clear: I mean "going into P/R" makes it worse, not you and Jingle pointing it out. :)
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OK. Good. I was afraid I struck a chord. :lol
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Yeah, the two times a day you go into the P/R side. :lol
Post of the year.
Well that certainly makes it worse.
You do know that I was kidding, right? You're usually fighting off the crowd on most days. :)
Haha, yes. Going back, I was not clear: I mean "going into P/R" makes it worse, not you and Jingle pointing it out. :)
Thankfully, that's the way I took it, until TAC made me question my ability to interpret Stadler-ese. Good to know I'm better at it than he is.
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It's troubling to me, though, because as a commercial attorney, it's my JOB to at least understand what the other side is thinking/doing, in order to find a set where we overlap and can come to agreement. It's not a pleasant feeling to sense you've lost that skillset.
I don't think you would have lost that skillset, the world and the people in it are just becoming more selfish, stupid, slow witted and ignorant. I truly feel our race is going backwards at the speed of light. I can't imagine where the human race will be in 100-200 years.
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It's troubling to me, though, because as a commercial attorney, it's my JOB to at least understand what the other side is thinking/doing, in order to find a set where we overlap and can come to agreement. It's not a pleasant feeling to sense you've lost that skillset.
I don't think you would have lost that skillset, the world and the people in it are just becoming more selfish, stupid, slow witted and ignorant. I truly feel our race is going backwards at the speed of light. I can't imagine where the human race will be in 100-200 years.
The key word is "speed of light"; I think things move too fast now to really let the details sink in. I'm speaking mostly of America, but we have gotten really good at the BIG GESTURES - the crowdsourcing, the "[insert whoever] Strong" movements, etc. - but we're getting to be shit at the little day-to-day gestures. I say this philosophically, not actually, but a part of me wonders if we don't sort of need a giant reset. Be it climate change, a national/geographical reshuffling, or something similar. Make us rely on ourselves, our intuition and our ability to relate rather than technology, arbitrary algorithms, and polling data.
That won't help me any, personally, but it may answer your concerns.
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Learning Green Day will be playing at the NHL All Star game in St. Louis this season. Ugh. Can’t they just go away?
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Learning Green Day will be playing at the NHL All Star game in St. Louis this season. Ugh. Can’t they just go away?
St, Louis needs to just go away! ;D
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It's troubling to me, though, because as a commercial attorney, it's my JOB to at least understand what the other side is thinking/doing, in order to find a set where we overlap and can come to agreement. It's not a pleasant feeling to sense you've lost that skillset.
I don't think you would have lost that skillset, the world and the people in it are just becoming more selfish, stupid, slow witted and ignorant. I truly feel our race is going backwards at the speed of light. I can't imagine where the human race will be in 100-200 years.
The key word is "speed of light"; I think things move too fast now to really let the details sink in. I'm speaking mostly of America, but we have gotten really good at the BIG GESTURES - the crowdsourcing, the "[insert whoever] Strong" movements, etc. - but we're getting to be shit at the little day-to-day gestures. I say this philosophically, not actually, but a part of me wonders if we don't sort of need a giant reset. Be it climate change, a national/geographical reshuffling, or something similar. Make us rely on ourselves, our intuition and our ability to relate rather than technology, arbitrary algorithms, and polling data.
That won't help me any, personally, but it may answer your concerns.
I've actually kinda thought this for a while. We as a human race need something to make us strip back and get back to basics IMO. Technology and social media IMO is getting out of control and is ruling peoples lives. We've lost touch and I feel it alienates peoples identities in a way. I feel we are becoming a pack of zombies in this day an age.
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Technology and social media IMO is getting out of control and is ruling peoples lives.
Because people are letting tech replace their brains. Forget advanced skills like decision making and critical thinking - it's destroying their ability to perform even the most fundamental tasks. I've seen too many people who can't do basic math without a calculator or read a paper map when their GPS is down. Predictably, they don't see it as cause and effect, they just roll with it like helplessness is normal. Good luck surviving any kind of giant reset with that skillset.
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Technology and social media IMO is getting out of control and is ruling peoples lives.
Because people are letting tech replace their brains. Forget advanced skills like decision making and critical thinking - it's destroying their ability to perform even the most fundamental tasks. I've seen too many people who can't do basic math without a calculator or read a paper map when their GPS is down. Predictably, they don't see it as cause and effect, they just roll with it like helplessness is normal. Good luck surviving any kind of giant reset with that skillset.
Agree 100%. Watching kids these days try and use cash or read a clock is hilarious.
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Or remember a phone number.
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And why won't these kids stay off my lawn?!
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My doctors office.
I make an appointment for my yearly physical a few weeks ago and since then I've been getting non stop emails and text messages to confirm my appointment. I even got a call and text to make sure I was coming in at noon. I get there 10 minutes before and while I'm waiting after checking in I'm told the doctor is running 45 minutes behind. You mean to tell me all the time you spent to confirm I was coming you never thought to contact me to let me she was late?
Additionally they now gave me a sheet of paper at my check in of topics i was allowed to discuss with my doctor and if I asked or talked about anything separately I'd be billed for it. What the fuck.
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Additionally they now gave me a sheet of paper at my check in of topics i was allowed to discuss with my doctor and if I asked or talked about anything separately I'd be billed for it. What the fuck.
That is fucked.
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You mean to tell me all the time you spent to confirm I was coming you never thought to contact me to let me she was late?
It's quite possible the email / text reminders / calls were sent automatically by a bot - once you make the appointment, no humans are involved except for a single action of triggering the auto-notifications once to run until your appointment date. As annoying as it is, I'm not surprised that they didn't let you know in advance, because that would mean an actual staff member would have to take that action.
And yes, billable time rule is fun. If this was a routine maintenance GP visit, it's classified differently for insurance purposes than a "specialty" issue. Your list of topics was most likely based on "general" vs "specialty" codes. It's nonsensical from the consumer POV, but very profitable.
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Brexit.
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I've had it with these videos of kids doing things like the one I saw today.....a$$hole at DICKS sporting goods pulls a kayak down....gets in it and slides down the escalator into a clothing rack. In these 'viral' vids the articles refer to them as 'pranksters'. There's the ones of kids throwing milk gallons in stores and slipping....or knocking over displays....whatever it is....it's always some minor destructive stuff....they're laughing their butts off and posting it to social media and it's glorified.
It's nothing but disrespect and if I were they're parents I'd be ashamed. And, you can take this to the bank....if any of my three boys end up doing something like that they won't be able to sit for a week. Because at that point they'd just be flat out ignoring how they're being raised and an a$$ kicking is all they'd deserve.
/rant
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I like funny videos just as much as the next person, but there is a fine line between being funny and being an a-hole. I never understood kids that do that kind of stuff, with no regards that they are screwing someone up or the consequences to their actions.
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Well, certainly the glorification of this stuff by social media isn't helping anyone. I don't think anyone can claim it's a "cautionary tale".
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You're right, of course. But I have to admit that, as I was typing this, I got distracted by the thought of riding down an escalator in a kayak and how awesome that would be.
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I like funny videos just as much as the next person, but there is a fine line between being funny and being an a-hole. I never understood kids that do that kind of stuff, with no regards that they are screwing someone up or the consequences to their actions.
Same here. There's funny....then there's just being a D-Bag and destroying property and potentially hurting someone. imagine if a small child walked in front of the escalator suddenly? A senior citizen?
Quick search I actually found there are way too many d-bags out there doing crap like this. Must have been 15 vids of people kayaking down escalators. These two were the kings. If that was my son...well....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA_47mw6GrE
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You're right, of course. But I have to admit that, as I was typing this, I got distracted by the thought of riding down an escalator in a kayak and how awesome that would be.
true. and I had my fair share of questionable choices as a teenager.....I guess I'm more ticked at how glorified and encouraged it seems like it is these days with the social media aspect.
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When someone has been bugging you to do work for them, but you've blown them off a bunch recently because they are really slow and difficult to work with and I don't have time to deal with it, so I finally carve out time to deal with this person and their issues and then 10 other poeple say they have more important things for me to focus on. >:( I just wish we hired more competent people so this simple task could go back to being simple and not be a huge waste of my time.
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The fact that we don't euthanize our elders.
My 86 year old grandmother is in an assisted living facility (Connecticut) and deteriorating rapidly. Her husband died 17 years ago, her dog died 7 years ago, her house and assets were taken by the state 5 years ago to cover her medical costs, and now she's in hospice. She's been in this particular assisted living facility for a little more than 3 years now. She's miserable and is ready to go. She has been for a long time now. She been refusing food for two weeks now, purposefully trying to get her body to quit, and the nurses just keep hooking her up to more bags and prolonging her suffering. She's refusing to get out of bed. She's in huge amounts of pain, and she's just laying there with her eyes shut sobbing and whimpering. She's suffering to no end right now, and I find it infuriating that they're keeping her alive. We'll go to great lengths to make sure our fucking dogs go peacefully and in the best spirits we can, but we'll literally let a human being rot until their heart finally fails.
It's bullshit.
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The fact that we don't euthanize our elders.
My 86 year old grandmother is in an assisted living facility (Connecticut) and deteriorating rapidly. Her husband died 17 years ago, her dog died 7 years ago, her house and assets were taken by the state 5 years ago to cover her medical costs, and now she's in hospice. She's been in this particular assisted living facility for a little more than 3 years now. She's miserable and is ready to go. She has been for a long time now. She been refusing food for two weeks now, purposefully trying to get her body to quit, and the nurses just keep hooking her up to more bags and prolonging her suffering. She's refusing to get out of bed. She's in huge amounts of pain, and she's just laying there with her eyes shut sobbing and whimpering. She's suffering to no end right now, and I find it infuriating that they're keeping her alive. We'll go to great lengths to make sure our fucking dogs go peacefully and in the best spirits we can, but we'll literally let a human being rot until their heart finally fails.
It's bullshit.
I can't argue with you.
I definitely don't agree with the "any quality life is automatically better than no life" is not a correct stance, especially if we're leaving it up to the person in question.
Obviously I would say assisted suicide, rather than euthanasia, but yea. I think if a person could choose the time and method of their own death, it could be a beautiful thing for a lot of people.
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The fact that we don't euthanize our elders.
My 86 year old grandmother is in an assisted living facility (Connecticut) and deteriorating rapidly. Her husband died 17 years ago, her dog died 7 years ago, her house and assets were taken by the state 5 years ago to cover her medical costs, and now she's in hospice. She's been in this particular assisted living facility for a little more than 3 years now. She's miserable and is ready to go. She has been for a long time now. She been refusing food for two weeks now, purposefully trying to get her body to quit, and the nurses just keep hooking her up to more bags and prolonging her suffering. She's refusing to get out of bed. She's in huge amounts of pain, and she's just laying there with her eyes shut sobbing and whimpering. She's suffering to no end right now, and I find it infuriating that they're keeping her alive. We'll go to great lengths to make sure our fucking dogs go peacefully and in the best spirits we can, but we'll literally let a human being rot until their heart finally fails.
It's bullshit.
Chino, my heart goes out to you and your grandmother.
If it matters, I'm in full agreement.
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Dang! No one who's lived a long life should ever have to suffer like that near the end. That's just wrong.
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The fact that we don't euthanize our elders.
My 86 year old grandmother is in an assisted living facility (Connecticut) and deteriorating rapidly. Her husband died 17 years ago, her dog died 7 years ago, her house and assets were taken by the state 5 years ago to cover her medical costs, and now she's in hospice. She's been in this particular assisted living facility for a little more than 3 years now. She's miserable and is ready to go. She has been for a long time now. She been refusing food for two weeks now, purposefully trying to get her body to quit, and the nurses just keep hooking her up to more bags and prolonging her suffering. She's refusing to get out of bed. She's in huge amounts of pain, and she's just laying there with her eyes shut sobbing and whimpering. She's suffering to no end right now, and I find it infuriating that they're keeping her alive. We'll go to great lengths to make sure our fucking dogs go peacefully and in the best spirits we can, but we'll literally let a human being rot until their heart finally fails.
It's bullshit.
Chino, my heart goes out to you and your grandmother.
If it matters, I'm in full agreement.
You took the words right off my fingers Bill.
Sorry your family has to endure such unnecessary pain and suffering, Brian.
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Having seen my grandparents wither away the last few years and finally get their peace almost a year ago, I totally agree. I just don't understand this. They are suffering and want to move on at that point and we won't let them. It's not right IMO. I've said it before and I'll say it again, life is not that precious to be treated like this.
Also, sorry Chino, it's such a tough situation. You didn't even talk about the financial burden (as the emotional is way more important) but these things come at a huge cost too.
Both my grandparents got to a state where they couldn't talk or move at all, lost all memory, everything. Just vegetables and yet cost my mom and her sister so much money and emotional burden to keep alive until their bodies gave up. I think my parents don't agree with assisted suicide so they weren't arguing to get them into their next life, but the all around suffering during those years was definitely noticeable. My Mom also lost touch with her Uncle due to all this (fighting over money and my grandpas wishes), and then he passed too so kind of a shitty way to end his life as well.
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The fact that we don't euthanize our elders.
My 86 year old grandmother is in an assisted living facility (Connecticut) and deteriorating rapidly. Her husband died 17 years ago, her dog died 7 years ago, her house and assets were taken by the state 5 years ago to cover her medical costs, and now she's in hospice. She's been in this particular assisted living facility for a little more than 3 years now. She's miserable and is ready to go. She has been for a long time now. She been refusing food for two weeks now, purposefully trying to get her body to quit, and the nurses just keep hooking her up to more bags and prolonging her suffering. She's refusing to get out of bed. She's in huge amounts of pain, and she's just laying there with her eyes shut sobbing and whimpering. She's suffering to no end right now, and I find it infuriating that they're keeping her alive. We'll go to great lengths to make sure our fucking dogs go peacefully and in the best spirits we can, but we'll literally let a human being rot until their heart finally fails.
It's bullshit.
Chino, my heart goes out to you and your grandmother.
If it matters, I'm in full agreement.
You took the words right off my fingers Bill.
Sorry your family has to endure such unnecessary pain and suffering, Brian.
With these fellas. I'm not a fan of any instance where your 'choice' is removed from an equation.
Really sorry to hear about this Brian.
(which is why I catch a ton of poo poo being a 'pro choice' Christian as far as abortions. I don't agree with it and would prefer them not to happen...but you can't take someones choice away. just hope it's an educated choice..that's all)
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I was up for almost 24 hours straight Monday into Tues. Worked Tues night with like 4 hours of sleep. Same last night. Left home at 930pm. Got home at nearly 9am. I go to lay down and sleep.... And my landlords boyfriend is in the garage our unit is attached to cutting sheet metal? And hammering it. Seriously dude... You know I've been working nights. You physically watched me leave last night and come home this morning (doesn't have a normal job and spends most of his time in his "man cave / work shop" in the garage), and you're going to start this right as I get home?
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Trying to reschedule some 'traditional' days that we usually get together for Christmas with my family. My side usually meets up at my Grandfather's the Saturday before Christmas. Issue this year is I now have (2) kids playing hockey....and, we're in the thick of practices and games. That day in particular we have a game at 4:00pm and another one at 9:50pm
Rather than discuss options like adults my two brothers, mother and grandfather immediately get all worked up and bent out of shape about having to switch the day.....yadda yadda yadda.....I'm to the point of just not showing up period because they're all acting like four year olds.
Yeah....Christmas Season! :tup
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Sometimes it's nice not to have to put up with that BS. It sucks that mrs.jingle and I have toxic family members, and we don't speak, but the peace and quiet is nice sometimes.
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Sometimes it's nice not to have to put up with that BS. It sucks that mrs.jingle and I have toxic family members, and we don't speak, but the peace and quiet is nice sometimes.
I enjoy 'family time' and understand that any moments I create with my grandfather, mother.....brothers....can be precious. You just never know when the 'last' time you get to see or hug someone is.
That being said....the older I get.....the more and more I find myself just more concerned about my immediate family needs....me, my wife and boys. All other 'family' scenarios after that are secondary to me. Sounds kind of harsh but it's just true.
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While it should be able to get resolved with a mature conversation, I see both sides of the coin. If you have kids and you have stuff going on, that comes first of course, but it can be a bit oft-putting to others at times. Case in point: in 2009, my grandma turned 100 and a big shindig was thrown for her. There are 20 grandkids on that side of the family (I was the 17th born) and 19 of us were there. One cousin, who rarely came to family events and has since passed, even came, but there was one cousin who didn't come because one of his kids had a soccer game, and I was like WTF? This is Grandma's 100th and you are missing it because of a freaking soccer game?? There are some cool pics from the event as well, and it always looks a little strange to see that one pic of Grandma with 19 of her grandkids (with 1 missing).
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While it should be able to get resolved with a mature conversation, I see both sides of the coin. If you have kids and you have stuff going on, that comes first of course, but it can be a bit oft-putting to others at times. Case in point: in 2009, my grandma turned 100 and a big shindig was thrown for her. There are 20 grandkids on that side of the family (I was the 17th born) and 19 of us were there. One cousin, who rarely came to family events and has since passed, even came, but there was one cousin who didn't come because one of his kids had a soccer game, and I was like WTF? This is Grandma's 100th and you are missing it because of a freaking soccer game?? There are some cool pics from the event as well, and it always looks a little strange to see that one pic of Grandma with 19 of her grandkids (with 1 missing).
I get it...totally. Something like a 100th B-Day party I'd miss a game for sure. But when my wife and I mention (3) different days/options as to when we could reschedule without it affecting anything and the big push back is 'we always do it on this day'.....I start to get a bit peeved.
Since that post earlier it's been decided that we are going to get together 'early' on the 20th. Which is fine and dandy and all, but my one sons 4:10 game is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from my grandfathers (Kev...you'll know this...my grandpa lives in St. Clair and the game is at the Mills in Hazelwood) So....in order to get my son to his game on time (on time being the hour before according to team rules) I will have to leave at 2:00 that day. That's still gonna tick off some folks.
Anyway.....yipee!!!
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While it should be able to get resolved with a mature conversation, I see both sides of the coin. If you have kids and you have stuff going on, that comes first of course, but it can be a bit oft-putting to others at times. Case in point: in 2009, my grandma turned 100 and a big shindig was thrown for her. There are 20 grandkids on that side of the family (I was the 17th born) and 19 of us were there. One cousin, who rarely came to family events and has since passed, even came, but there was one cousin who didn't come because one of his kids had a soccer game, and I was like WTF? This is Grandma's 100th and you are missing it because of a freaking soccer game?? There are some cool pics from the event as well, and it always looks a little strange to see that one pic of Grandma with 19 of her grandkids (with 1 missing).
I get it...totally. Something like a 100th B-Day party I'd miss a game for sure. But when my wife and I mention (3) different days/options as to when we could reschedule without it affecting anything and the big push back is 'we always do it on this day'.....I start to get a bit peeved.
Since that post earlier it's been decided that we are going to get together 'early' on the 20th. Which is fine and dandy and all, but my one sons 4:10 game is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from my grandfathers (Kev...you'll know this...my grandpa lives in St. Clair and the game is at the Mills in Hazelwood) So....in order to get my son to his game on time (on time being the hour before according to team rules) I will have to leave at 2:00 that day. That's still gonna tick off some folks.
Anyway.....yipee!!!
Yowza, that is quite a haul for one day (factoring in the drive from home to your grandpa's and then home later). Should be fun stuff, especially once you factor in the guilt trips that are surely headed your way. :lol
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Yowza, that is quite a haul for one day (factoring in the drive from home to your grandpa's and then home later). Should be fun stuff, especially once you factor in the guilt trips that are surely headed your way. :lol
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Already begun my man.....already begun.
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Already begun my man.....already begun.
Well, if you really cared about your extended family, you'd find a way to work around their schedules...
:P :P
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While it should be able to get resolved with a mature conversation, I see both sides of the coin. If you have kids and you have stuff going on, that comes first of course, but it can be a bit oft-putting to others at times. Case in point: in 2009, my grandma turned 100 and a big shindig was thrown for her. There are 20 grandkids on that side of the family (I was the 17th born) and 19 of us were there. One cousin, who rarely came to family events and has since passed, even came, but there was one cousin who didn't come because one of his kids had a soccer game, and I was like WTF? This is Grandma's 100th and you are missing it because of a freaking soccer game?? There are some cool pics from the event as well, and it always looks a little strange to see that one pic of Grandma with 19 of her grandkids (with 1 missing).
I get it...totally. Something like a 100th B-Day party I'd miss a game for sure. But when my wife and I mention (3) different days/options as to when we could reschedule without it affecting anything and the big push back is 'we always do it on this day'.....I start to get a bit peeved.
Since that post earlier it's been decided that we are going to get together 'early' on the 20th. Which is fine and dandy and all, but my one sons 4:10 game is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from my grandfathers (Kev...you'll know this...my grandpa lives in St. Clair and the game is at the Mills in Hazelwood) So....in order to get my son to his game on time (on time being the hour before according to team rules) I will have to leave at 2:00 that day. That's still gonna tick off some folks.
Anyway.....yipee!!!
Gary, just asking, and totally not taking sides. I find this line of posts actually really interesting.
What would be the harm in your son skipping the game? Are you trying to instill that his team is depending on him, and that if commits to something he stick to it?
Is it possible for your wife to take him, and you stay behind with your other sons at the get together?
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The fact that we don't euthanize our elders.
My 86 year old grandmother is in an assisted living facility (Connecticut) and deteriorating rapidly. Her husband died 17 years ago, her dog died 7 years ago, her house and assets were taken by the state 5 years ago to cover her medical costs, and now she's in hospice. She's been in this particular assisted living facility for a little more than 3 years now. She's miserable and is ready to go. She has been for a long time now. She been refusing food for two weeks now, purposefully trying to get her body to quit, and the nurses just keep hooking her up to more bags and prolonging her suffering. She's refusing to get out of bed. She's in huge amounts of pain, and she's just laying there with her eyes shut sobbing and whimpering. She's suffering to no end right now, and I find it infuriating that they're keeping her alive. We'll go to great lengths to make sure our fucking dogs go peacefully and in the best spirits we can, but we'll literally let a human being rot until their heart finally fails.
It's bullshit.
Chino, my heart goes out to you and your grandmother.
If it matters, I'm in full agreement.
I agree too Chino. I'm really sorry for the suffering she is enduring.
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While it should be able to get resolved with a mature conversation, I see both sides of the coin. If you have kids and you have stuff going on, that comes first of course, but it can be a bit oft-putting to others at times. Case in point: in 2009, my grandma turned 100 and a big shindig was thrown for her. There are 20 grandkids on that side of the family (I was the 17th born) and 19 of us were there. One cousin, who rarely came to family events and has since passed, even came, but there was one cousin who didn't come because one of his kids had a soccer game, and I was like WTF? This is Grandma's 100th and you are missing it because of a freaking soccer game?? There are some cool pics from the event as well, and it always looks a little strange to see that one pic of Grandma with 19 of her grandkids (with 1 missing).
I get it...totally. Something like a 100th B-Day party I'd miss a game for sure. But when my wife and I mention (3) different days/options as to when we could reschedule without it affecting anything and the big push back is 'we always do it on this day'.....I start to get a bit peeved.
Since that post earlier it's been decided that we are going to get together 'early' on the 20th. Which is fine and dandy and all, but my one sons 4:10 game is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from my grandfathers (Kev...you'll know this...my grandpa lives in St. Clair and the game is at the Mills in Hazelwood) So....in order to get my son to his game on time (on time being the hour before according to team rules) I will have to leave at 2:00 that day. That's still gonna tick off some folks.
Anyway.....yipee!!!
Gary, just asking, and totally not taking sides. I find this line of posts actually really interesting.
What would be the harm in your son skipping the game? Are you trying to instill that his team is depending on him, and that if commits to something he stick to it?
Is it possible for your wife to take him, and you stay behind with your other sons at the get together?
No problem with the questions Tim. As far as skipping.....aside from it costing $900 a kid to play roughly 25-30 games (depending on tournament games played) which makes every game pretty ‘valuable’.....it is also the commitment to his team. It’s not really an option to skip as far as I’m concerned.
We’ve basically worked it out to where I’m just gonna leave early with him. The others will stay behind and we will meet up later.
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It's important, especially for your son, that your extended family support his endeavors.
I'm glad you have it worked out.
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While it should be able to get resolved with a mature conversation, I see both sides of the coin. If you have kids and you have stuff going on, that comes first of course, but it can be a bit oft-putting to others at times. Case in point: in 2009, my grandma turned 100 and a big shindig was thrown for her. There are 20 grandkids on that side of the family (I was the 17th born) and 19 of us were there. One cousin, who rarely came to family events and has since passed, even came, but there was one cousin who didn't come because one of his kids had a soccer game, and I was like WTF? This is Grandma's 100th and you are missing it because of a freaking soccer game?? There are some cool pics from the event as well, and it always looks a little strange to see that one pic of Grandma with 19 of her grandkids (with 1 missing).
I get it...totally. Something like a 100th B-Day party I'd miss a game for sure. But when my wife and I mention (3) different days/options as to when we could reschedule without it affecting anything and the big push back is 'we always do it on this day'.....I start to get a bit peeved.
Since that post earlier it's been decided that we are going to get together 'early' on the 20th. Which is fine and dandy and all, but my one sons 4:10 game is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from my grandfathers (Kev...you'll know this...my grandpa lives in St. Clair and the game is at the Mills in Hazelwood) So....in order to get my son to his game on time (on time being the hour before according to team rules) I will have to leave at 2:00 that day. That's still gonna tick off some folks.
Anyway.....yipee!!!
Gary, just asking, and totally not taking sides. I find this line of posts actually really interesting.
What would be the harm in your son skipping the game? Are you trying to instill that his team is depending on him, and that if commits to something he stick to it?
Is it possible for your wife to take him, and you stay behind with your other sons at the get together?
No problem with the questions Tim. As far as skipping.....aside from it costing $900 a kid to play roughly 25-30 games (depending on tournament games played) which makes every game pretty ‘valuable’.....it is also the commitment to his team. It’s not really an option to skip as far as I’m concerned.
We’ve basically worked it out to where I’m just gonna leave early with him. The others will stay behind and we will meet up later.
Just my opinion here, but....
I do not share you putting sports above family. I am in a similar position as you except it is my two girls playing travel softball. Very expensive and tons of time commitments.
I firmly instill the sense of commitment to the team in my girls, and that it is a responsibility to be taken seriously.
That being said......my girls, and likely your boys, are NOT professional athletes. This is Rec/Travel sports for KIDS. And they play so many games during the year, I make sure we put the once a year gatherings on a higher priority. Unless this is a championship game, the once a year Family holiday takes priority.
The kids will never remember some regular season game they missed, but they (and you) will remember the Family gatherings....and god forbid you start losing the opportunities with some Family as they pass away.
Now I am also in your position where I have some Family that are, lets say, difficult. Regardless, it is still family. What is really so important about the game that you would miss this gathering? Commitment to Family is just as, if not more important that to a team that really has little importance in the grand scheme of things.
Now if you are going to Hockey as an excuse because you cant stand your Family, then carry on! LOL JK
Again, JMO.
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I see that, and was going to write something about that, but couldn't figure out how to word it.
In the given case (Gary's, though I think I'm going to generalize from here), how many more holiday get togethers will the Grandparents have?
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My brother paid $1500 for my 6 year old nephew to play hockey. A year later most of the team goes to smother another league and they ask only $500 for loyalty.
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My brother paid $1500 for my 6 year old nephew to play hockey. A year later most of the team goes to smother another league and they ask only $500 for loyalty.
Kids Travel leagues (not local rec) of all sports are businesses. Capitalism :metal
And your kid can be a commodity.
My kids softball leagues usually run with the seasons (Fall Ball, Winter, etc), and sometimes we need to move to another team for many reasons. Coaching changes, schedules, talent levels. I ALWAYS negotiate my payments down due to the talent level of my kids. I never pay retail LOL. :biggrin:
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I hear what you guy are sayings. I think it was last year on Father's Day when we had to wait till late in the day to get the family together because my nephew had a baseball game in a tournament at like 4 pm, a game in which he barely played (he is a pitcher and only plays in the field a little in the game in which he doesn't pitch) and they lost like 12-2.
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I hear what you guys are saying about not missing out on family moments for some 'game' that doesn't carry the importance. Totally get it. I value time with family as much as the next person. With as much time as we spend with our extended family on both sides I don't think the solution we came up with is going to sacrifice anything of that magnitude.
But this was/is not about family time. The solution I initially offered would have actually given us more time together. This is about the way (4) grown adults acted when I approached them about needing to switch days for us meeting. Instead of talking options out like normal people my family decided to stick to what they always do and over react like I'd just pi$$ed in their Cheerio's.
Ultimately we will have our day/time together and it'll be 'fine'. My rant was/is about how in lieu of simply 'talking' about options I had to deal with a bunch of childish crap.
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Ultimately we will have our day/time together and it'll be 'fine'. My rant was/is about how in lieu of simply 'talking' about options I had to deal with a bunch of childish crap.
Yeah, it's too bad when people get so unreasonable for the sake of it.
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I get it gmillerdrake. In the end family needs to be a two way street with some compromise.
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What makes me angry today isn't nearly as important as what has been discussed, but I'll through it out anyway.
I had the stomache flu the first half of this week and I'm still somewhat recovering. But what made me angry is that yesterday I ordered a 16 in. sandwhich from Jimmy Johns that I was really looking forward to eating, but because I have been sick it just didn't taste good at all. It was a gigantic let down.
It's not Jimmy Johns fault, my taste buds were still messed up from being sick. I'm hoping today will be a little better and I can enjoy my food.
Very surface level stuff, but there you go :)
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Nothing like treating the stomach flu with a 16 incher from Jimmy Johns. :lol
Who's your doctor, Dr. Kingshmegland?
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Damn, that first big meal after getting over the stomach flu is usually sooooo good.
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Nothing like treating the stomach flu with a 16 incher from Jimmy Johns. :lol
Who's your doctor, Dr. Kingshmegland?
I would have prescribed Bourbon. You should know better.
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Nothing like treating the stomach flu with a 16 incher from Jimmy Johns. :lol
Phrasing.
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Jimmy John Holmes?
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Jimmy John Holmes?
Long Dong JJ.
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Extra mayo!
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Bronchitis that I’ve currently got going on.
Got a cold two weeks ago, started feeling better by the end of that week. Then I got this cough that won’t go away, I got mucus coming up every cough, I wake up at 3AM in a coughing fit and can’t fall back asleep. Last Saturday night, do the VirtuWell clinic online and get prescribed some strong cough suppressants, pick them up Sunday and start taking them. These things work wonders, I can finally sleep again. They don’t completely stop the cough, but enough to the point where it’s manageable. The past two days though the cough has been intensifying and especially at night before by next dose of pills I have violent coughing fits. I just want this to end. Bronchitis can take three weeks or so to completely go away.
On top of that, I’ve been coughing so much that my lower back hurts. I have two bulged discs in my lower back that I manage the pain with daily stretching. But I’ve been coughing so hard and so much recently that I reaggravated my sciatica so now get the shooting leg pains when I cough sometimes. I’m falling apart :lol
On the bright side, through this cold and such I’ve really found a taste for Lemon and Ginger tea with lemon juice and honey. I have about 4 cups everyday
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Ugh, bronchitis sucks. I had a dose of it a few months ago (which forced me to miss Morsefest :( ).
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Speaking of infectious diseases....anyone noticing that medical clinics and doctor's offices are having patients sign disclaimers about 24 hour cancelling policies? I mean - I can see both sides. Medical providers are busy and people not showing up for scheduled appointments is a problem. But my PT office literally said that if a Monday appointment isn't cancelled by Friday afternoon prior, the patient is billed. What if I get the flu on Saturday? They just want me to keep my appointment and infect their staff and other patients? WTF??
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Speaking of infectious diseases....anyone noticing that medical clinics and doctor's offices are having patients sign disclaimers about 24 hour cancelling policies? I mean - I can see both sides. Medical providers are busy and people not showing up for scheduled appointments is a problem. But my PT office literally said that if a Monday appointment isn't cancelled by Friday afternoon prior, the patient is billed. What if I get the flu on Saturday? They just want me to keep my appointment and infect their staff and other patients? WTF??
Too bad you couldn't make them sign a disclaimer when you check in that if you have to sit in the waiting room for 30 minutes after your appointment is supposed to start, it should be 50% off the price.
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Speaking of infectious diseases....anyone noticing that medical clinics and doctor's offices are having patients sign disclaimers about 24 hour cancelling policies? I mean - I can see both sides. Medical providers are busy and people not showing up for scheduled appointments is a problem. But my PT office literally said that if a Monday appointment isn't cancelled by Friday afternoon prior, the patient is billed. What if I get the flu on Saturday? They just want me to keep my appointment and infect their staff and other patients? WTF??
Too bad you couldn't make them sign a disclaimer when you check in that if you have to sit in the waiting room for 30 minutes after your appointment is supposed to start, it should be 50% off the price.
LoL, I hear you. But I also realize that it is less likely the provider's fault they are running late, and more likely it is because some ding dong patient earlier in the schedule was late and put everyone else behind.
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It's all about the delicate genius...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECmtCdUtEMI
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LoL - good one!
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Damn, that first big meal after getting over the stomach flu is usually sooooo good.
Yeah, that's what I was hoping and expecting. And a complete waste of $20.
Bronchitis that I’ve currently got going on.
Got a cold two weeks ago, started feeling better by the end of that week. Then I got this cough that won’t go away, I got mucus coming up every cough, I wake up at 3AM in a coughing fit and can’t fall back asleep. Last Saturday night, do the VirtuWell clinic online and get prescribed some strong cough suppressants, pick them up Sunday and start taking them. These things work wonders, I can finally sleep again. They don’t completely stop the cough, but enough to the point where it’s manageable. The past two days though the cough has been intensifying and especially at night before by next dose of pills I have violent coughing fits. I just want this to end. Bronchitis can take three weeks or so to completely go away.
On top of that, I’ve been coughing so much that my lower back hurts. I have two bulged discs in my lower back that I manage the pain with daily stretching. But I’ve been coughing so hard and so much recently that I reaggravated my sciatica so now get the shooting leg pains when I cough sometimes. I’m falling apart :lol
On the bright side, through this cold and such I’ve really found a taste for Lemon and Ginger tea with lemon juice and honey. I have about 4 cups everyday
Oh man, that sounds horrible! I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I hope you get feeling better soon. That bronchitis is THE WORST! And definately worth being angry about :)
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Bronchitis that I’ve currently got going on.
Got a cold two weeks ago, started feeling better by the end of that week. Then I got this cough that won’t go away, I got mucus coming up every cough, I wake up at 3AM in a coughing fit and can’t fall back asleep. Last Saturday night, do the VirtuWell clinic online and get prescribed some strong cough suppressants, pick them up Sunday and start taking them. These things work wonders, I can finally sleep again. They don’t completely stop the cough, but enough to the point where it’s manageable. The past two days though the cough has been intensifying and especially at night before by next dose of pills I have violent coughing fits. I just want this to end. Bronchitis can take three weeks or so to completely go away.
On top of that, I’ve been coughing so much that my lower back hurts. I have two bulged discs in my lower back that I manage the pain with daily stretching. But I’ve been coughing so hard and so much recently that I reaggravated my sciatica so now get the shooting leg pains when I cough sometimes. I’m falling apart :lol
On the bright side, through this cold and such I’ve really found a taste for Lemon and Ginger tea with lemon juice and honey. I have about 4 cups everyday
Went to the doctor this morning after waking up two consecutive mornings with a sore throat and stuffy nose. Yesterday when I woke up, I just threw the sheets off me and punched the pillow, I'm done with this shit. The bronchitis has now morphed into a sinus infection. So now I've got antibiotics and prescription cough suppressants. This month has sucked health wise. When I was in the waiting room, another woman was checking in and she said that she had bronchitis for 15 days and wanted to see a doctor. I asked the nurse if a lot of people have been coming in with bronchitis and she said they have and that the strain going around has been particularly awful. Felt better after hearing that
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Well, at least you showed that pillow what's for. That's the important thing :lol. Seriously though, I hope you get well soon.
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Fucking casual asshole staff dropping shifts left right and centre. Especially when they contact you half an hour after a roster has been sent out and say 'something has come up.' You know what's come up actually? You're fucking sorry pathetic ass out the fucking door. I'm firing people for fun at the moment. They are worse than cattle going through a slaughterhouse. Young people today need a fucking harsh reality check. I'm glad I'll be dead in 60 years when the dumb cunt next generation takes over and breeds more fucking dipshits and eventually we implode and wipe ourselves out by our own fucking hands. Seasonal work with a 95% casual staff roster is brutal. No wonder the hairs are falling out of my head by the hour.
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Sorry about that, I had a bad day, not that you couldn't tell.
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:lol
I live for three things: roulettes, Orbert band updates and regular Kade rants about his job (and occasionally about Geoff Tate)
Not sure if that helps, but I'm expected to be at work tomorrow (Saturday) at 7 A.M. :lol Hopefully you have your weekend off, man.
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:rollin :metal
At least I can bring pleasure here. Makes it all worthwhile. :tup
Working tomorrow morning but should be able to knock off by lunch. Hope you don't have to work too hard tomorrow Ruslan.
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Both 'kings' around here have the same beefs over temporary workers. It's (not) good to be the King?
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Jeez, I totally forgot about my other rant 2 months ago. Another impulsive one and I'll have to force myself to get a new job. :lol
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Jeez, I totally forgot about my other rant 2 months ago.
We didn't! :lol
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Seasonal work with a 95% casual staff roster is brutal. No wonder the hairs are falling out of my head by the hour.
Well that right there explains it. You couldn't pay me enough to do your job.
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:lol
I live for three things: roulettes, Orbert band updates and regular Kade rants about his job (and occasionally about Geoff Tate)
Not sure if that helps, but I'm expected to be at work tomorrow (Saturday) at 7 A.M. :lol Hopefully you have your weekend off, man.
HAHA, nice shout out. And for the record, me too! (though it needs more photos).
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This was actually yesterday but it still ticked me off.
Was driving to a meeting on a stretch of Highway across the river in Illinois that isn't maintained particularly well....and I noticed the car in front of me swiftly swerve to miss something in the road....leaving me little time to do so myself. I mean, I did see it in time but for whatever reason (probably old age) I didn't deem it as dangerous as I should have I guess and by the time I realized I should try to miss this chunk of whatever....well....I drilled it....dead center.
I have a Chevy Malibu so it doesn't sit too high off the ground. This think ROCKED my car....huge noise and jostled it. I immediately turned my radio down to listen for anything out of the ordinary. Nothing. But, about twenty seconds later my RPM gauge was jumping from 3 to 6....back and forth from high to low....then, I lost power of acceleration....engine was on and making noise but I was not going anywhere.
I had to make my way over two lanes with no power....then thankfully, there was an off ramp that I coasted down. I then opened my insurance App....clicked roadside assistance and waited for the tow truck.
Stepped out of the car and noticed that I might have had a leak somewhere :lol
(https://i.imgur.com/Uul85Om.jpg)
Got it to the shop and put it on a lift...and saw this: First a cracked transmission housing.
(https://i.imgur.com/Oe3O9Kq.jpg)
Then a heavily damaged oil pan with a hole in it
(https://i.imgur.com/yzChhhF.jpg)
Then I think he said this connection had something to do with a catalytic converter?
(https://i.imgur.com/eNL1zMS.jpg)
All in all the guy told me yesterday that without really digging into yet...judging from the visible damage he'd guess I'm at $5-6k worth of damage. He then was asking how many miles I had on the car....how old...etc etc He was just saying that he's guessing the insurance company will just total it. I'll have to wait and see what the adjuster says.
So....I'm more ticked off at myself than anything for being an idiot and not reacting faster.
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Well, you know what they say, go big or go home... but holy shit dude!
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Well, you know what they say, go big or go home... but holy shit dude!
I don't always have car issues.....but when I do I make sure to tear the entire undercarriage apart :lol
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:lol
I live for three things: roulettes, Orbert band updates and regular Kade rants about his job (and occasionally about Geoff Tate)
Not sure if that helps, but I'm expected to be at work tomorrow (Saturday) at 7 A.M. :lol Hopefully you have your weekend off, man.
HAHA, nice shout out. And for the record, me too! (though it needs more photos).
Of the singers. Not necessarily of Orbert. ;D
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Well, you know what they say, go big or go home... but holy shit dude!
I don't always have car issues.....but when I do I make sure to tear the entire undercarriage apart :lol
Wow...
In the transmission photo... is that dark area (in the center of the light beam) that looks like a sock-puppet a shadow or is that the actual crack? What the hell was it that you hit?
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Well, you know what they say, go big or go home... but holy shit dude!
I don't always have car issues.....but when I do I make sure to tear the entire undercarriage apart :lol
At least you are joking about it, damn that sucks and Id be so mad at myself too, but I've totally done similar (where you misjudge what you are about to run over).
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Well, you know what they say, go big or go home... but holy shit dude!
I don't always have car issues.....but when I do I make sure to tear the entire undercarriage apart :lol
Wow...
In the transmission photo... is that dark area (in the center of the light beam) that looks like a sock-puppet a shadow or is that the actual crack? What the hell was it that you hit?
That’s the crack! I know. It’s huge. Honestly the thing I hit did not look all that threatening. It wasn’t a ‘big’ piece of debris. But it must have been steel or something.
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Holy cow man! What a story. Thank goodness for car insurance I guess?
I'm also guessing you missed your meeting?
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Holy cow man! What a story. Thank goodness for car insurance I guess?
I'm also guessing you missed your meeting?
Yeah. I missed the meeting. I called the guy running it and told him the info I had for the group so I still got my job done I guess.
Worse case I’m out my deductible of $500. But, my boss told me today that since I was technically working he thinks that he can get the company to reimburse me that cost as well.
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Worthless employees are the bane of my work existence right now. Dude at this account I am working at (Not running- just working as a working bee here) has a history of calling out, using bullshit excuses (family dying, etc), and has been caught lying at least once. Well he contacted me to ask if I'd swap shifts with him this weekend so he could go to a concert tonight. I told him I couldn't, as It would have me getting off at 11pm and coming back in at 7am. It's a 1.5-2 hour drive each way. No way am I going to do that.
I let the person who handles the scheduling know, just in case he tried to use a BS excuse again.
And now it looks like they are appeasing him and giving him the day off. Causing overtime. Which I have been lectured about by this chick time and time again that if someone's shift can't be filled w out OT, they're SOL.
Fun shit. I can't wait to be out of this shithole and actually doing what I am supposed to be doing and not just used as a glorified filler.
This was actually yesterday but it still ticked me off.
*SNIP*
What year Malibu?
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2015 Malibu.
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2015 Malibu.
Did you ever go back and find out what hellspawn caused this insane damage?
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2015 Malibu.
Did you ever go back and find out what hellspawn caused this insane damage?
No. But I’ll have to drive the same route Sunday as my youngest has a hockey game near where it happened. Maybe it’ll be there still. Maybe not.
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Seasonal work with a 95% casual staff roster is brutal. No wonder the hairs are falling out of my head by the hour.
Well that right there explains it. You couldn't pay me enough to do your job.
Oh I know mate. I put these frustrations across all the time to the higher powers but nothing changes. Mainly cause I work my guts out for 80 hour weeks and keep shit moving. I get paid well but the better off you get financially, the harder it gets.
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Some cunt called in sick again today. This current roster is this assholes last.
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Some cunt called in sick again today. This current roster is this assholes last.
:corn
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Seasonal work with a 95% casual staff roster is brutal. No wonder the hairs are falling out of my head by the hour.
Well that right there explains it. You couldn't pay me enough to do your job.
Oh I know mate. I put these frustrations across all the time to the higher powers but nothing changes. Mainly cause I work my guts out for 80 hour weeks and keep shit moving. I get paid well but the better off you get financially, the harder it gets.
I feel the same way about my job at times, I have to go above and beyond to get things done and since they do get done, management doesn't see the need to add more people.... as I continue to break my back. I feel it man, as I get better off financially I don't want to keep breaking my back. Sadly, I'm really not sure the grass is any greener somewhere else, I've got some great perks that I don't want to lose so I will just keep breaking my back.
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One thing I've learned is typically the more money, the more stress from the Job. There was a recent structural change at my job, lots of people were let go and the ones that were left were promoted. My old boss got a promotion with a massive pay increase and someone who I know from another department got a promotion and is now my new boss.
These two guys have had massive salary increases, like $50k+ more a year but the amount they work now is insane.
What I'm getting it as they have proven that they can take on a lot of work so the expectation is they will continue to provide that level or work. I'm in the same boat, I was recently promoted to this new position I had been trying for but I'm starting to think if it was the smart thing to do. I'm doing 80% of what I used to plus a whole new set of responsibilities. The perks are great, I get paid more than I ever thought I'd make and I can afford things I've always wanted like a new gaming PC, new guitar, vacations etc. I can't enjoy any of it. I get home, eat whatever takes the least amount of time to make, play with the dogs then sit at my new gaming rig hitting F5 on DTF because I cannot put any mental effort into even playing a video game.
Sorry this post kind of flew off the rails there :lol
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Yea, no doubt about that. I'm all about finding the happy medium. I don't need to be rich, but I want to be comfortable and I also don't want to be so worked that I can't enjoy what I'm working for. Sometimes I feel like I found that sweet spot and others like this week make me rethink wtf am I doing :lol
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One thing I've learned is typically the more money, the more stress from the Job. There was a recent structural change at my job, lots of people were let go and the ones that were left were promoted. My old boss got a promotion with a massive pay increase and someone who I know from another department got a promotion and is now my new boss.
These two guys have had massive salary increases, like $50k+ more a year but the amount they work now is insane.
What I'm getting it as they have proven that they can take on a lot of work so the expectation is they will continue to provide that level or work. I'm in the same boat, I was recently promoted to this new position I had been trying for but I'm starting to think if it was the smart thing to do. I'm doing 80% of what I used to plus a whole new set of responsibilities. The perks are great, I get paid more than I ever thought I'd make and I can afford things I've always wanted like a new gaming PC, new guitar, vacations etc. I can't enjoy any of it. I get home, eat whatever takes the least amount of time to make, play with the dogs then sit at my new gaming rig hitting F5 on DTF because I cannot put any mental effort into even playing a video game.
Sorry this post kind of flew off the rails there :lol
I get this. We recently picked up an Xbox One (finally), and Pokemon SW/SH just came out... Have had the Xbox 2 weeks now and literally played 2 rounds of PUBG, and I have gotten maybe 4 hours in on Pokemon. I'm always just too busy, or too tired to enjoy these newfound "toys" lol
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Seasonal work with a 95% casual staff roster is brutal. No wonder the hairs are falling out of my head by the hour.
Well that right there explains it. You couldn't pay me enough to do your job.
Oh I know mate. I put these frustrations across all the time to the higher powers but nothing changes. Mainly cause I work my guts out for 80 hour weeks and keep shit moving. I get paid well but the better off you get financially, the harder it gets.
I feel the same way about my job at times, I have to go above and beyond to get things done and since they do get done, management doesn't see the need to add more people.... as I continue to break my back. I feel it man, as I get better off financially I don't want to keep breaking my back. Sadly, I'm really not sure the grass is any greener somewhere else, I've got some great perks that I don't want to lose so I will just keep breaking my back.
Fuck man, this is me word for word, it's amazing. I came to the realisation a few months ago that I've made a rod for my own back. The current workload I have is my own fault because I've done it for 10 fucking years. I'm the idiot, not them. As you say though mate, the security and perks make it hard to jump off the cliff though. But how can we do what we do forever, that's the question. How much money will I have before I say enough is enough. I fear that will never come though no matter how well off I am.
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One thing I've learned is typically the more money, the more stress from the Job. There was a recent structural change at my job, lots of people were let go and the ones that were left were promoted. My old boss got a promotion with a massive pay increase and someone who I know from another department got a promotion and is now my new boss.
These two guys have had massive salary increases, like $50k+ more a year but the amount they work now is insane.
What I'm getting it as they have proven that they can take on a lot of work so the expectation is they will continue to provide that level or work. I'm in the same boat, I was recently promoted to this new position I had been trying for but I'm starting to think if it was the smart thing to do. I'm doing 80% of what I used to plus a whole new set of responsibilities. The perks are great, I get paid more than I ever thought I'd make and I can afford things I've always wanted like a new gaming PC, new guitar, vacations etc. I can't enjoy any of it. I get home, eat whatever takes the least amount of time to make, play with the dogs then sit at my new gaming rig hitting F5 on DTF because I cannot put any mental effort into even playing a video game.
Sorry this post kind of flew off the rails there :lol
I debate the more responsibility the more money. I guess it depends where you are. Typically yes but my boss gets paid double what I do and I have double rhe responsibility. It is what it is and as I said it's my own fault for not speaking up or complaining for 10 years.
I hear you though mate. I can afford whatever I want but too but the hours I do, can't even find time to spend money. Lucky to be able to get a week off once a year too. Even then it's hard to fully be away. My work is my life. I know no other way. 80 hour weeks are nothing anymore.
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I'm loathe to criticize you or your position, as I clearly don't know anything about it. But I know in my experience, it's largely a true-ism. There are always exceptions, of course, but not all "responsibilities" are equal. I don't hold "informational" responsibilities the same as "personnel" responsibilities, for example. As much as I'd love to say it is so, none of the decisions I make on a daily basis, and none of the tasks I do on a daily basis (that is, none of the information I pass on to others in the organization) can in the space of eight hours wipe out 10,000 jobs. ONE PRESS RELEASE from Elon Musk can do that. It's an unpopular position to take, because the exceptions are so widely publicized, and there are so many prominent people in the news (i.e. politicians) whose agenda runs counter to that premise, but CEOs - actually, C-suite employees - are not interchangeable with middle- and lower management from the standpoint of "responsibility". That's not at all to say that the rest of the organization is useless or expendable, or that there aren't exceptions on every level, but the actual day-to-day of the job is something that doesn't get talked about much these days.
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It's funny, you know. I have people like Kade at my workplace. Clocking in 80+ hours a week, thinking everyone is an asshole, leaving work at 11 P.M. and all. We have good relationship because I'm never the one to shy away from responsibility and I'm usually a guy who can work weekends for some task that would otherwise be unsolved and we'll be screwed.
So I'm there whenever they need me, but I'm still usually doing only 40 hours a week and only occasionally I agree to do overtime. I refused a few times and people stopped pestering me to do it. I kinda feel if I agreed every time, I would've been receiving way more money, and would've been promoted probably, but honestly I'm fine with my ~40 hours a week (considering that my commute takes away 3 hours from each day). I get enough money to get by and even travel a couple times a year. And if there's something that requires our immediate attention, I'm there if you need me. Also if you notify me in advance. No, I won't be able to work this Saturday if you approach me on Friday, because you know, I have already made some plans with friends and no, I won't cancel them, my friends are also people who are relying on me. If you approach me on Tuesday though and it's critical? Sure, I will be there.
Screw the people not showing up though. We had a couple of students at our place who were only working like Tuesdays and Fridays and they skipped half of these with no notice. They're fired now but fuck was I irritated.
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Screw the people not showing up though. We had a couple of students at our place who were only working like Tuesdays and Fridays and they skipped half of these with no notice. They're fired now but fuck was I irritated.
We have some issues with that at my place as well. Students showing up or leaving whenever they want. Or lying to call out. They seem oblivious about this behavior as well. Unfortunately, my manager is a spineless airhead and none of them will every be fired.
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I'm loathe to criticize you or your position, as I clearly don't know anything about it. But I know in my experience, it's largely a true-ism. There are always exceptions, of course, but not all "responsibilities" are equal. I don't hold "informational" responsibilities the same as "personnel" responsibilities, for example. As much as I'd love to say it is so, none of the decisions I make on a daily basis, and none of the tasks I do on a daily basis (that is, none of the information I pass on to others in the organization) can in the space of eight hours wipe out 10,000 jobs. ONE PRESS RELEASE from Elon Musk can do that. It's an unpopular position to take, because the exceptions are so widely publicized, and there are so many prominent people in the news (i.e. politicians) whose agenda runs counter to that premise, but CEOs - actually, C-suite employees - are not interchangeable with middle- and lower management from the standpoint of "responsibility". That's not at all to say that the rest of the organization is useless or expendable, or that there aren't exceptions on every level, but the actual day-to-day of the job is something that doesn't get talked about much these days.
I'm in that middle type of management that has more of a day to day responsibility. Every organisation is different but do agree with what you say on a whole. I'm not one to get offended. I agree my level is somewhat forgotten about. The people above me rely on me more than I rely on them. Saying that my viewpoint is pretty jaded lol.
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Screw the people not showing up though. We had a couple of students at our place who were only working like Tuesdays and Fridays and they skipped half of these with no notice. They're fired now but fuck was I irritated.
We have some issues with that at my place as well. Students showing up or leaving whenever they want. Or lying to call out. They seem oblivious about this behavior as well. Unfortunately, my manager is a spineless airhead and none of them will every be fired.
I don't understand the managers that are so week they find it hard to fire people. I guess the world we live in people have more rights than ever and it's getting harder to let people go, but paying people for bullshit productivity and unreliability is a joke.
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Screw the people not showing up though. We had a couple of students at our place who were only working like Tuesdays and Fridays and they skipped half of these with no notice. They're fired now but fuck was I irritated.
We have some issues with that at my place as well. Students showing up or leaving whenever they want. Or lying to call out. They seem oblivious about this behavior as well. Unfortunately, my manager is a spineless airhead and none of them will every be fired.
I don't understand the managers that are so week they find it hard to fire people. I guess the world we live in people have more rights than ever and it's getting harder to let people go, but paying people for bullshit productivity and unreliability is a joke.
Where I work, it's almost impossible for the managers to fire people. Too much government regulation. I worked as a manager for a little while and if I didn't take meticulous records of behavior to build a case and crossed every t and dotted every i, then the union would have me for lunch when I gave out any disciplinary action. The worst I could do to an employee is have them demoted or moved to another area. But firing? Forget it.
In all my time there, I have only seen one person get fired and it took YEARS of meticulous records by multiple managers.
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Screw the people not showing up though. We had a couple of students at our place who were only working like Tuesdays and Fridays and they skipped half of these with no notice. They're fired now but fuck was I irritated.
We have some issues with that at my place as well. Students showing up or leaving whenever they want. Or lying to call out. They seem oblivious about this behavior as well. Unfortunately, my manager is a spineless airhead and none of them will every be fired.
I don't understand the managers that are so week they find it hard to fire people. I guess the world we live in people have more rights than ever and it's getting harder to let people go, but paying people for bullshit productivity and unreliability is a joke.
Local laws can get in the way with this. My dutch coworker was absolutely terrible. Worked the bare minimum and always did things wrong. Caused outages as well. Couldn't properly communicate things (not a language barrier, he was actually British, and the Dutch speak good English anyway but this is because he didn't know what he was doing) and consistently wasn't there when we needed him. And yet, we couldn't fire him. My boss basically pressured him to look for another job with constant poor reviews and he finally did after HR got involved to give him "notice" and he had a full year under that notice to show performance results. What a joke. Guy should have gotten canned a long time ago and if he was in the US, he would have as we have given the boot to better workers than him. I definitely think he mooched off the company, but what can you do when laws hold you back?
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I'm in local government too so I understand. I guess since I work with a lot of casuals it's a bit different. Even casiluals get rights over here after 12 months and/or they have had steady hours for a period of time.
I did see one manager get witch hunted and almost got fired and had substantiated complaints. They were bullshit complaints and they even had witnesses to disprove but they kept substantiating them. They had to pay thousands of dollard in legal representation to keep their job.
My comment was more along the lines of how some managers are too scared and weak to talk to underperforming staff so they just walk all over them.
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Wasn't today, but over the weekend: me and my two best friends were moving furniture all weekend (one of 'em bought a nice house and we were moving stuff from the old place into the new). But his wife, who me and the other friend already just can't stand because she suuuucks, was making things worse trying to commandeer the operation and chastising two of us for taking a breather after moving a 400 pound armoire for her fat ass. On the plus side, she said something like, "Well, I have a human growing inside me" in that nagging voice pregnant women do to absolve themselves of any faults, and without missing a beat, my other friend, he blurts out, "Yeah well I have a lot more than one inside me but you don't see me complaining!" :rollin
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Wasn't today, but over the weekend: me and my two best friends were moving furniture all weekend (one of 'em bought a nice house and we were moving stuff from the old place into the new). But his wife, who me and the other friend already just can't stand because she suuuucks, was making things worse trying to commandeer the operation and chastising two of us for taking a breather after moving a 400 pound armoire for her fat ass. On the plus side, she said something like, "Well, I have a human growing inside me" in that nagging voice pregnant women do to absolve themselves of any faults, and without missing a beat, my other friend, he blurts out, "Yeah well I have a lot more than one inside me but you don't see me complaining!" :rollin
I literally imagined John Cleese saying that just now. Thanks for the entertainment.
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That is annoying, you'd think some dudes helping out a pregnant chick they aren't fans of would be more welcomed and thanked than that. Hopefully your friend whos married to her expressed more thankfulness on behalf of her.
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At least you could move it and didn't have to guard it on the street overnight.
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At least you could move it and didn't have to guard it on the street overnight.
But that would mean leaving her out there.
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At least you could move it and didn't have to guard it on the street overnight.
But that would mean leaving her out there.
At least then you could go and get soup.
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She sucks, man. Stopped working ever since she met him, claims 'anxiety' keeps her from working. Couldn't drive the damn car around the block without pulling over because of 'anxiety.' Let me know how raising that kid goes
At least you could move it and didn't have to guard it on the street overnight.
But that would mean leaving her out there.
:rollin
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She sucks, man. Stopped working ever since she met him, claims 'anxiety' keeps her from working. Couldn't drive the damn car around the block without pulling over because of 'anxiety.' Let me know how raising that kid goes
Holy crap, no kidding! I try not to judge, but on the face of it, that sounds like a recipe for DISASTER. I've done some shit in my life, but there hasn't been even a minute at work that was as intense as the responsibility of raising a kid.
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Guy should have gotten canned a long time ago and if he was in the US, he would have as we have given the boot to better workers than him.
Unless he was part of a union.
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Guy should have gotten canned a long time ago and if he was in the US, he would have as we have given the boot to better workers than him.
Unless he was part of a union.
Well that's a whole different story then, I'm glad my job doesn't have any dealings with unions. A previous job did and it was very frustrating.
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Pre-ordered the new Vanden Plas album and t-shirt in early October. The order was shipped, no tracking number provided. The order still hasn't arrived so I wrote to Frontiers. They give me the tracking number (why the hell couldn't they do it in the first place?) I look it up and apparently my order arrived to my local Post Office at Oct 12th. The local Post Office didn't send me any notifications. I also put in the phone number when ordering, no calls or messages or anything. The delivery time may sometimes be up to two months which is why I didn't even bother visiting the Post Office before.
Turns out the order was waiting for me for the whole month and they sent it back on November 12th, now it's on its way back to Germany.
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Well that is upsetting for sure, sorry to hear that. The post office seems to be a shit-show no matter where you are in the country.
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Why did the post office hold onto it in the first place? Was there a bad address on it or something?
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Why did the post office hold onto it in the first place? Was there a bad address on it or something?
Oh, we don't have the mailmen here. I mean we do, but only for letters or something, nothing as big as t-shirt + CD package. The mailman usually puts a notification (a slip of paper) in your mailbox and you have to fill it in and bring it to the post office to get your package.
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Oh, so they just totally dropped the ball on that part. I guess I forgot everywhere has different ways of delivery. I get all sorts of boxes dropped off at my house, only when something needs a signature do I get the slip on the door.
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Yep. Hopefully Frontiers will be graceful and send it back to me with a tracking number with no additional charges.
I had this issue like three years ago with InsideOut and they did that.
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Meanwhile not in Russia ... Ruslan's package.
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:rollin
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Pre-ordered the new Vanden Plas album and t-shirt in early October. The order was shipped, no tracking number provided. The order still hasn't arrived so I wrote to Frontiers. They give me the tracking number (why the hell couldn't they do it in the first place?) I look it up and apparently my order arrived to my local Post Office at Oct 12th. The local Post Office didn't send me any notifications. I also put in the phone number when ordering, no calls or messages or anything. The delivery time may sometimes be up to two months which is why I didn't even bother visiting the Post Office before.
Turns out the order was waiting for me for the whole month and they sent it back on November 12th, now it's on its way back to Germany.
Just lazy poor form from the post office. Does no fucker stop to think 'hey, this has been here a while, probably should give this guy a buzz.'
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PEOPLE! What else could possibly be the cause of all the stupid shit that happens?
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So.... we got that winter wallop that everyone got, and for us (southern New England) it was a one-two punch. Sunday into Sunday night was snow, freezing rain, and in the morning, the schools had a 2-hr delay. I shoveled (well, snow-blowed) the driveway, no prob. About 3 to 4 inches. Then, Monday afternoon into night, we were supposed to get round two. And the weatherman was "well, it should have done this, but it's doing that" and adjusted the snow totals so that I was right on the line of "1" to 3"" and "3" to 5". I wake up to a foot. At least. No problems so far, I'm good, I love snow, so I make some coffee and go outside.
The end of the driveway is easily three feet high. I work my way through the mountain of snow - I felt like Jon Snow wading through the undead - and get to the street. Clear out about a three foot wide swath to work with.
Here's the piss: The snow plow comes, sees me in the street and stops. Cool so far. I blow into the driveway moving out of his way, and he starts up and moves a fucking mountain of snow right back into my gap! The fuck! You saw me move it! You couldn't swerve? Come back later? Lift the plow?
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So.... we got that winter wallop that everyone got, and for us (southern New England) it was a one-two punch. Sunday into Sunday night was snow, freezing rain, and in the morning, the schools had a 2-hr delay. I shoveled (well, snow-blowed) the driveway, no prob. About 3 to 4 inches. Then, Monday afternoon into night, we were supposed to get round two. And the weatherman was "well, it should have done this, but it's doing that" and adjusted the snow totals so that I was right on the line of "1" to 3"" and "3" to 5". I wake up to a foot. At least. No problems so far, I'm good, I love snow, so I make some coffee and go outside.
The end of the driveway is easily three feet high. I work my way through the mountain of snow - I felt like Jon Snow wading through the undead - and get to the street. Clear out about a three foot wide swath to work with.
Here's the piss: The snow plow comes, sees me in the street and stops. Cool so far. I blow into the driveway moving out of his way, and he starts up and moves a fucking mountain of snow right back into my gap! The fuck! You saw me move it! You couldn't swerve? Come back later? Lift the plow?
I live on a corner lot in a really old pocket in Waterbury. I'm one of the few houses with no driveway. The roads are really wide, so street parking isn't a problem and I can easily fit 12 cars around my house. The guy who plows our neighborhood angles his blade toward my car instead of the other way toward the woods. I don't understand it. I used to go out and plow for my ex's father when he needed a hand. I know for a fact that the guy could just direct the snow the other way and is consciously choosing not to.
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So I went to the package store just now. A guy walks in behind me, and is in line behind me. On my way out, I'm checking out a gift set and the guy walks out. As I exit the store, the guy is backing out of a spot....the handicapped spot. I see him grab his parking pass off his dashboard as he is backing up. I'm thinking WTF? The guy was definitely NOT handicapped.
But not only this...look at the spots in front of the store.
(https://i.imgur.com/f1s24EK.jpg)
The gray van is mine. He parked in the H spot two spots over from me. I mean, there's an OPEN spot right next to me, not to mention the three open ones further to the left.
On the other side of my van...
(https://i.imgur.com/UBKQ2dF.jpg)
..there's three more open spots.
It's bad enough if someone who can walk grabs an H spot at a crowded mall, but this is first class douchery. Fucking asshole!
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That is pretty fucked up.
What pissed me off this morning is something that's been making me angry for about a month now. Every single time I get in my car to drive to work, I put on Howard Stern on SiriusXM and maybe within 10 minutes of enjoying whatever he's talking about, it goes on a 20+ minute commercial break. I change the channel, lsiten to a couple songs, come back... still commercial, a few more songs... still commercial. It's been like this every single day for a month. I've had enough. Cancelled my subscription which ends in a month or so. But what's also annoying is you have to call and then no matter how many times I said I want to cancel, they try to make some offer including the last offer was three free months and a statement credit of 5$ in case I wanted to get a plan after the 3 free months. To which I said in 3 months I'll have to go through this whole process again and hear all these crappy offers. NO.
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Tim... might want to get your rear light fixed, before you're posting in here about getting pulled a ticket from the Po-Po.
And yeah... normally, I'm tolerant of what the definition of "handicapped' might be - could be he has a heart condition, and shouldn't be walking more than 20 steps before keeling over. But with the spot right beside it being open, there was probably no need to take it up... on the off chance that an actual wheel-chair vehicle comes along.
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Tim... might want to get your rear light fixed, before you're posting in here about getting pulled a ticket from the Po-Po.
Yeah, I got clipped in a huge highway pileup in the rain on the highway last week.
And yeah... normally, I'm tolerant of what the definition of "handicapped' might be - could be he has a heart condition, and shouldn't be walking more than 20 steps before keeling over.
Sure, but he was good enough to walk the store and buy a giant bottle of booze!
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See my story in the roulette thread; this is a sensitive issue for me, since my dad NEEDS that spot. Having said that, he would have taken the spot next, as both Jingle and TAC have said.
Odd story: My dad, brother, grandfather, OTHER grandfather, uncle, and cousin all have the same name (first and last). Their first name is my middle name. So... one day my dad goes to the hardware store and sees a town police car parked in the handicapped spot. He happened to have his camera with him (this is before cellphones; probably 1988-90-ish) and takes a picture of the cop coming out of the pizza joint next door to the hardware store. He later gives it to the Chief of Police (a friend of his, and I played softball with his kids).
Within the next two weeks or so, my brother got two speeding tickets and I got two written warnings for speeding. The odd part? My two written warnings had my dad's name on them, even though I owned and paid insurance on my car.
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great thread love it
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Fuck that Tim, fuck that guy.
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Fuck that Tim, fuck that guy.
:lol
Amen, brother!
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The XFL teams released their uniforms today. Just like with the team names, a big letdown for me.
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Here's a good one.
- I had lunch plans yesterday like most days of the week.
- Manager schedules meeting with 4 people including himself, me, another manager and his employee during lunch hour.
- Both managers don't even show up.
- Thanks for fucking me out of my lunch plans and making the other employee walk a qtr mile to and from another building for no reason.
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Worthless employees are the bane of my work existence right now. Dude at this account I am working at (Not running- just working as a working bee here) has a history of calling out, using bullshit excuses...
Oh, is that the dude that concocted that whole story about not being able to come in for a key meeting after allegedly running over a huge piece of debris on the highway and destroying the entire undercarriage of his car?
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Worthless employees are the bane of my work existence right now. Dude at this account I am working at (Not running- just working as a working bee here) has a history of calling out, using bullshit excuses...
Oh, is that the dude that concocted that whole story about not being able to come in for a key meeting after allegedly running over a huge piece of debris on the highway and destroying the entire undercarriage of his car?
:curtains:
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Fuck that Tim, fuck that guy.
:lol
Amen, brother!
And the shopping cart he rode in on!
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What are you on about now?
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I coach a 12U ice hockey team. It's not the 'gold' level players....they're the 'silver' level so it's really just a teaching/refining skills league so that they can make the gold level teams. Anyway, our 'best' goalie's Dad just told us that he won't be at our only out of town tournament OR the end of season playoffs because they'll be on family vacations!!???
To play in this club on the 'silver' level it's $875 a kid. Add in the $300 for the 'kitty fund' along with $50 here....$100 there for odds and ends things and it's a pretty good chunk of change. Outside of the fact that in my view when you commit to play on a team sport your committing your time and pledging that you'll be there for the team.....the investment alone should make you want to have your kid play in as many games as they can.
I don't understand scheduling (2) family vacations in the months that you know your kids team is going to be playing games. Maybe it's just me....but I don't even consider it a possibility to miss any games unless it's due to illness or some unforeseen circumstance. Certainly not for leisure or something that can be avoided.
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WPMOT: Back in September I found out my car had a blown head gasket. Fast forward to the end of October and I get it back, $2000 later, with new spark plugs and a new water pump as well... except today after keeping an eye on the coolant level for a while, I noticed it was suspiciously low. Did some looking around and sure enough it's leaking from the damn head. Took it back to the mechanic who worked on it and will bring it in Monday to get it fixed. On top of that, my back right tire keeps leaking air, and last night it somehow went completely flat. I've already taken it off and examined it: nothing piercing it, nothing in the tread, sat it in a tank of water and pored over it and couldn't find a single air bubble. So WTF is going on with this damn tire? For months it'll slowly leak and every few days I have to fill it up. I've already taken it off three times and searched for leaks and cannot find anything.
This car is going to drive me mentally insane. :lol :facepalm:
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WPMOT: Back in September I found out my car had a blown head gasket. Fast forward to the end of October and I get it back, $2000 later, with new spark plugs and a new water pump as well... except today after keeping an eye on the coolant level for a while, I noticed it was suspiciously low. Did some looking around and sure enough it's leaking from the damn head. Took it back to the mechanic who worked on it and will bring it in Monday to get it fixed. On top of that, my back right tire keeps leaking air, and last night it somehow went completely flat. I've already taken it off and examined it: nothing piercing it, nothing in the tread, sat it in a tank of water and pored over it and couldn't find a single air bubble. So WTF is going on with this damn tire? For months it'll slowly leak and every few days I have to fill it up. I've already taken it off three times and searched for leaks and cannot find anything.
This car is going to drive me mentally insane. :lol :facepalm:
I recommend hitting a chunk of debris on the highway at about 75 mph....you'll get a new everything instead of them just totaling it :biggrin:
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WPMOT: Back in September I found out my car had a blown head gasket. Fast forward to the end of October and I get it back, $2000 later, with new spark plugs and a new water pump as well... except today after keeping an eye on the coolant level for a while, I noticed it was suspiciously low. Did some looking around and sure enough it's leaking from the damn head. Took it back to the mechanic who worked on it and will bring it in Monday to get it fixed. On top of that, my back right tire keeps leaking air, and last night it somehow went completely flat. I've already taken it off and examined it: nothing piercing it, nothing in the tread, sat it in a tank of water and pored over it and couldn't find a single air bubble. So WTF is going on with this damn tire? For months it'll slowly leak and every few days I have to fill it up. I've already taken it off three times and searched for leaks and cannot find anything.
This car is going to drive me mentally insane. :lol :facepalm:
You didn't tell anyone you were going to call them after, and didn't, did you? :)
That head gasket thing would piss me off. There's a shot they did it wrong, and there's a shot that they didn't do it at all and figured a shiny new water pump would glare your eyes. That happened on my daughter's car. Her brother (a licensed mechanic who redid the work) and I were pissed.
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Hahaha, I should just ram it into something and put it out of its misery, or at least try to...
We (as in, my dad and the shop) work with this particular mechanic quite often, so they definitely did the work and didn't screw me over like that, although it was estimated to be about $1300 at first and then after the water pump and spark plugs and labor it ballooned to $2k... but yeah, clearly one of the guys fucked something up since it's leaking. So I am kind of pissed that we* spent that much money on this only to have to bring it back. Lately they've been having issues like this - not sure if they got a new guy or what...
*I am fortunate enough that my parents fronted the bill and I am paying them back incrementally
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Hahaha, I should just ram it into something and put it out of its misery, or at least try to...
We (as in, my dad and the shop) work with this particular mechanic quite often, so they definitely did the work and didn't screw me over like that, although it was estimated to be about $1300 at first and then after the water pump and spark plugs and labor it ballooned to $2k... but yeah, clearly one of the guys fucked something up since it's leaking. So I am kind of pissed that we* spent that much money on this only to have to bring it back. Lately they've been having issues like this - not sure if they got a new guy or what...
*I am fortunate enough that my parents fronted the bill and I am paying them back incrementally
Well, make sure they're fixing it; this should be a warranty claim. Not car warranty, but their work should be warranted for some period of time if they did something wrong (like not putting a gasket in correctly or some shit).
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Oh yeah, they won't charge for the repair, thankfully.
At least they shouldn't. They know better - as often as we do work with them, too :)
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I don't understand scheduling (2) family vacations in the months that you know your kids team is going to be playing games. Maybe it's just me....but I don't even consider it a possibility to miss any games unless it's due to illness or some unforeseen circumstance. Certainly not for leisure or something that can be avoided.
I fully agree, but maybe the dads employer limits vacation time? I have a family member that drives a truck for a living and vacations are handled by seniority. So my family member, being lower in seniority, never gets to vacation in the summer because those weeks are already taken. They have to pull their kids from school to go on a trip because he is forced to use his vacation time in the winter.
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I coach a 12U ice hockey team. It's not the 'gold' level players....they're the 'silver' level so it's really just a teaching/refining skills league so that they can make the gold level teams. Anyway, our 'best' goalie's Dad just told us that he won't be at our only out of town tournament OR the end of season playoffs because they'll be on family vacations!!???
To play in this club on the 'silver' level it's $875 a kid. Add in the $300 for the 'kitty fund' along with $50 here....$100 there for odds and ends things and it's a pretty good chunk of change. Outside of the fact that in my view when you commit to play on a team sport your committing your time and pledging that you'll be there for the team.....the investment alone should make you want to have your kid play in as many games as they can.
I don't understand scheduling (2) family vacations in the months that you know your kids team is going to be playing games. Maybe it's just me....but I don't even consider it a possibility to miss any games unless it's due to illness or some unforeseen circumstance. Certainly not for leisure or something that can be avoided.
Are those expectations communicated beforehand? Does the league have a policy? Just asking. Not disagreeing with you BTW.
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I coach a 12U ice hockey team. It's not the 'gold' level players....they're the 'silver' level so it's really just a teaching/refining skills league so that they can make the gold level teams. Anyway, our 'best' goalie's Dad just told us that he won't be at our only out of town tournament OR the end of season playoffs because they'll be on family vacations!!???
To play in this club on the 'silver' level it's $875 a kid. Add in the $300 for the 'kitty fund' along with $50 here....$100 there for odds and ends things and it's a pretty good chunk of change. Outside of the fact that in my view when you commit to play on a team sport your committing your time and pledging that you'll be there for the team.....the investment alone should make you want to have your kid play in as many games as they can.
I don't understand scheduling (2) family vacations in the months that you know your kids team is going to be playing games. Maybe it's just me....but I don't even consider it a possibility to miss any games unless it's due to illness or some unforeseen circumstance. Certainly not for leisure or something that can be avoided.
Are those expectations communicated beforehand? Does the league have a policy? Just asking. Not disagreeing with you BTW.
The only policies are for behavior expectations. There is no formal attendance policy.
I just personally think that if you’re committing to a team you should be committed to it for the duration of the season. Players and coaches alike depend on it.
The secondary thing like I said is the $$$. There’s simply no way I’m investing this type of money and then my kid missing games unless it’s due to illness or something else.
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Holiday traffic.
Despite it being a weekday, the streets are completely jam packed wall to wall with traffic :P
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My boss not putting in my overtime and not even saying anything about it. Once the payslip comes in, he's already off on leave until the second week of January. Fuck you, you cunt.
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So the account manager (who handles my scheduling) has basically been giving me a schedule a week at a time. I got this week's schedule on Thursday (no text or anything telling me that it's done. I just happened to see it was published). Working Sunday, off Mon and Tue, working overnight on Christmas and Thurs, and Fri + Sat we're TBD. I was working but there wasn't a set time or place yet.
Okay. Working a graveyard on Christmas? Could be worse but it's time and a half... So why the fuck not. So we moved our plans to Christmas Eve. We still were going to do stuff on Xmas day... But there was going to be alcohol involved. So that was going to be today.
And then something comes up and I am stuck working Mon and Tue.. Won't be home today (Tue) till like 7pm.
And then I get a call an hour offering me Christmas off.
WTF.
So now I have no idea what my plans are... Because they've been changed 3x because of me.
I have a feeling they did that to get out of paying me holiday pay.. Because my rate at time and a half is double the regular guy's regular rate.
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So the account manager (who handles my scheduling) has basically been giving me a schedule a week at a time. I got this week's schedule on Thursday (no text or anything telling me that it's done. I just happened to see it was published). Working Sunday, off Mon and Tue, working overnight on Christmas and Thurs, and Fri + Sat we're TBD. I was working but there wasn't a set time or place yet.
Okay. Working a graveyard on Christmas? Could be worse but it's time and a half... So why the fuck not. So we moved our plans to Christmas Eve. We still were going to do stuff on Xmas day... But there was going to be alcohol involved. So that was going to be today.
And then something comes up and I am stuck working Mon and Tue.. Won't be home today (Tue) till like 7pm.
And then I get a call an hour offering me Christmas off.
WTF.
So now I have no idea what my plans are... Because they've been changed 3x because of me.
I have a feeling they did that to get out of paying me holiday pay.. Because my rate at time and a half is double the regular guy's regular rate.
That is some serious Christmas blues :tdwn. I hope all will end up working out for you.
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My boss not putting in my overtime and not even saying anything about it. Once the payslip comes in, he's already off on leave until the second week of January. Fuck you, you cunt.
My boss did this to me last week. I was supposed to have 2 days of paid vacation, but it was mysteriously missing... :censored
I should just cash out the other 3 weeks of paid vacation time I have saved up and quit and get a job with a competitor :neverusethis: Or finally start my own business like I've been meaning to for the last couple years...
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So... My gf and I watch The Masked Singer. We were having a conversation with her dad's fiance about how we need to catch up on the show, as the season is over but we're like several episodes behind and we've been really enjoying it.
She flat out just said "yes SO AND SO won it"
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Like... Fucking really?
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Ok, not cool to spoil it like that, but that show was sooooo dumb. The 'judge' panel was like .... F-list celebrities.
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See my rant in the chat thread.
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Ok, not cool to spoil it like that, but that show was sooooo dumb. The 'judge' panel was like .... F-list celebrities.
Please don't get me started on that. I can tolerate the panel - I like Robin Thicke and Ken Jeong is funny... sometimes, and Nicole knows what she's talking about - but what bugs me is the staging and the hype. They do these audience pans while the contestant is singing, and these audience members... they're either crying like the Pope is giving mass, or they're screaming like it's The Boss at MSG in '84, or swaying and holding each other like it's McCartney himself doing a solo version of Hey Jude into Let It Be. For f***'s sake, man, it's that guy in 'Nsync who ISN'T Timberlake or Fatone, warbling a Train semi-hit. Calm the f*** down.
And it's even worse when the voting happens; if those people put that kind of effort in to real voting global warming wouldn't be a thing, cancer would be cured, and my street would have been paved some time in this century.
Ah me.
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My boss not putting in my overtime and not even saying anything about it. Once the payslip comes in, he's already off on leave until the second week of January. Fuck you, you cunt.
My boss did this to me last week. I was supposed to have 2 days of paid vacation, but it was mysteriously missing... :censored
I should just cash out the other 3 weeks of paid vacation time I have saved up and quit and get a job with a competitor :neverusethis: Or finally start my own business like I've been meaning to for the last couple years...
While it's great someone shares my frustration, it's so disgusting that this happens everywhere. How can these bastards enjoy their XMas knowing they have fucked over the people they rely on? That's right, they don't give a fuck.
Quitting and starting my own thing has always been a the dream too mate. I know I'll never do it though. I'd have 6 months paid out if I wanted to quit and start again haha.
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Ok, not cool to spoil it like that, but that show was sooooo dumb. The 'judge' panel was like .... F-list celebrities.
Please don't get me started on that. I can tolerate the panel - I like Robin Thicke and Ken Jeong is funny... sometimes, and Nicole knows what she's talking about - but what bugs me is the staging and the hype. They do these audience pans while the contestant is singing, and these audience members... they're either crying like the Pope is giving mass, or they're screaming like it's The Boss at MSG in '84, or swaying and holding each other like it's McCartney himself doing a solo version of Hey Jude into Let It Be. For f***'s sake, man, it's that guy in 'Nsync who ISN'T Timberlake or Fatone, warbling a Train semi-hit. Calm the f*** down.
And it's even worse when the voting happens; if those people put that kind of effort in to real voting global warming wouldn't be a thing, cancer would be cured, and my street would have been paved some time in this century.
Ah me.
I saw a little of the Australian one and fuck me this has to be the most mind numbing, dumb ass piece of shit I've ever seen. We had Lindsay Lohan for fucks sake. I'm pretty sure your brain cells commit suicide as you watch it. Your IQ I'm sure is lower after watching an episode of it, it has to be.
That bolded line was fucking gold mate!
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Like I know it's stupid... But I enjoy trying to guess the celebs based on the hints.
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Like I know it's stupid... But I enjoy trying to guess the celebs based on the hints.
Well, you DID enjoy it. Not anymore then haha. Yeah, the hell to people that spoil shit even when you say not to.
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This is petty and kinda stupid and even moreso because I'm still dwelling on it days later, but, Saturday my best buds came over, and one of them brought his wife without asking me beforehand. He knows that I DO NOT like his wife whatsoever and have a longstanding beef with her, yet brought her over without even asking if it was cool. I ignored her and acted like she wasn't there for the whole night. Then she asked me for the wifi. Yeah, super petty, but that enraged me, given that she often makes passive aggressive attacks about me and my other best friend on social media.
Just everything about her pisses me off and I was not happy to have her in my home. Next time I'm telling him to leave her at home and make sure he puts some water in her dish
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If Chasing Amy has taught me anything, it’s that there’s one simple solution.
You gotta have a three way with your friend and his wife.
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If Chasing Amy has taught me anything, it’s that there’s one simple solution.
You gotta have a three way with your friend and his wife.
Dude, I wouldn't bang her with his dick.
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Close your eyes, pretend it’s Stadler and do what needs to be done.
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This is petty and kinda stupid and even moreso because I'm still dwelling on it days later, but, Saturday my best buds came over, and one of them brought his wife without asking me beforehand. He knows that I DO NOT like his wife whatsoever and have a longstanding beef with her, yet brought her over without even asking if it was cool. I ignored her and acted like she wasn't there for the whole night. Then she asked me for the wifi. Yeah, super petty, but that enraged me, given that she often makes passive aggressive attacks about me and my other best friend on social media.
Just everything about her pisses me off and I was not happy to have her in my home. Next time I'm telling him to leave her at home and make sure he puts some water in her dish
My unsolicited opinion is to do one of two things:
1) Take the high ground and be civil to her. Don't ignore her, don't tell the guy not to bring her over, just treat her with respect even though she doesn't deserve it. Doesn't mean you need to be her best friend. Just don't act like a jerk towards her.
2) End the friendship. It's his wife. She's not going away. You're putting him a tough spot to choose between his wife and your friendship. Do him a favor and choose his wife for him.
Feel free to ignore. :)
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3) Clone the guy and let the original version be free of the ties that bind him.
Yeah, I know. Bite my tongue and be respectful.
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Or
3) way
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Adami is right. As usual.
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My vomit is going to vomit.
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Ok, not cool to spoil it like that, but that show was sooooo dumb. The 'judge' panel was like .... F-list celebrities.
Please don't get me started on that. I can tolerate the panel - I like Robin Thicke and Ken Jeong is funny... sometimes, and Nicole knows what she's talking about - but what bugs me is the staging and the hype. They do these audience pans while the contestant is singing, and these audience members... they're either crying like the Pope is giving mass, or they're screaming like it's The Boss at MSG in '84, or swaying and holding each other like it's McCartney himself doing a solo version of Hey Jude into Let It Be. For f***'s sake, man, it's that guy in 'Nsync who ISN'T Timberlake or Fatone, warbling a Train semi-hit. Calm the f*** down.
And it's even worse when the voting happens; if those people put that kind of effort in to real voting global warming wouldn't be a thing, cancer would be cured, and my street would have been paved some time in this century.
Ah me.
:lol I've gotta say, this post made me literally laugh out loud.
Stadler: "Don't get me started."
Stadler: *starts*
:rollin
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The wife and I were doing some simple finalized shopping for a small group to visit here tonight.
On our way home on a 30MPH street this morning, a total nutjob female suddenly darted in front of our car and was screaming. I have no idea if she was out of her element, waited way to late to cross the boulevard, or was trying to commit suicide, with our vehicle being her exit device. We came to a halt about two feet from her, and I jumped out of my vehicle yelling and wondering WTF was her problem. A county cop was nearby. He got out of his vehicle, grabbed me, and then started to yell and chastise ME for yelling at her!!! And then threatened us, without ever going up to that individual to find out what HER problem was.
We've known every Precinct captain over the past seven years, the county commanders, etc....because we are 'big shots' in a way with the county police and our elected officials. But, WE were threatened for 'harrassing' some nut who was lucky that I have great peripheral vision. Yes, I have his badge number, the car number, and will be talking with Captain Chemelli and Commander Hyatt tomorrow.
Glad that the last day of the year did not result in a fatality at 'my hands'.
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The wife and I were doing some simple finalized shopping for a small group to visit here tonight.
On our way home on a 30MPH street this morning, a total nutjob female suddenly darted in front of our car and was screaming. I have no idea if she was out of her element, waited way to late to cross the boulevard, or was trying to commit suicide, with our vehicle being her exit device. We came to a halt about two feet from her, and I jumped out of my vehicle yelling and wondering WTF was her problem. A county cop was nearby. He got out of his vehicle, grabbed me, and then started to yell and chastise ME for yelling at her!!! And then threatened us, without ever going up to that individual to find out what HER problem was.
We've known every Precinct captain over the past seven years, the county commanders, etc....because we are 'big shots' in a way with the county police and our elected officials. But, WE were threatened for 'harrassing' some nut who was lucky that I have great peripheral vision. Yes, I have his badge number, the car number, and will be talking with Captain Chemelli and Commander Hyatt tomorrow.
Glad that the last day of the year did not result in a fatality at 'my hands'.
I tell my sons all the time that it's the person that retaliates that almost always gets in trouble. Same in your situation I guess. It would have been best to either just stay in your car, or calmly ask her if she needed help. I totally understand your reaction though.
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Yikes! Thank goodness that didn't have a tragic ending.
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The wife and I were doing some simple finalized shopping for a small group to visit here tonight.
On our way home on a 30MPH street this morning, a total nutjob female suddenly darted in front of our car and was screaming. I have no idea if she was out of her element, waited way to late to cross the boulevard, or was trying to commit suicide, with our vehicle being her exit device. We came to a halt about two feet from her, and I jumped out of my vehicle yelling and wondering WTF was her problem. A county cop was nearby. He got out of his vehicle, grabbed me, and then started to yell and chastise ME for yelling at her!!! And then threatened us, without ever going up to that individual to find out what HER problem was.
We've known every Precinct captain over the past seven years, the county commanders, etc....because we are 'big shots' in a way with the county police and our elected officials. But, WE were threatened for 'harrassing' some nut who was lucky that I have great peripheral vision. Yes, I have his badge number, the car number, and will be talking with Captain Chemelli and Commander Hyatt tomorrow.
Glad that the last day of the year did not result in a fatality at 'my hands'.
Why even get out of the car? People fuck up. No one got hurt. Let it go and carry on with your life. I don't blame the cop.
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Hackers pissed me off today. Someone got a hold of my wife's debit card info and drained our checking account today through something called Coinbase.
Several phone calls have now happened. My wife is at the bank. We have to call the police and file a report. Meanwhile, I have no money until this is resolved. Well, at least until Friday. Of course, I also have an auto-pay bill that plans to pay out tomorrow. Trying to figure out how to get that sorted out.
I hate people that do this, I really do. Completely ruined my vibe for New Year's. I'm staggeringly pissed.
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That fucking blows.
We have basically stopped using our Debit card.
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That sucks for sure, Prof. Peart. I hope that gets straightened out as quickly and smoothly as possible.
I have never used a debit card. Credit card or cash only.
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I'm so sorry. Man, those are the type of people I want to see suffer a slow, torturous death.
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Why even get out of the car?
Totally acknowledging the fact that I wasn't there, this was my question as well. Life is full of unnecessary confrontations. Seldom does anyone say "I am so glad I escalated that benign situation by raising it to the level of a confrontation."
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and now what's p*ssing me off are some of these responses. Walk a mile in my shoes............
The cop should have run up to her to find out just WTW was wrong with that idiot, not berated me for somehow stopping two feet short of running over a pedestrian.
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I'm so sorry. Man, those are the type of people I want to see suffer a slow, torturous death.
Thanks for the sentiments everyone. This quote is what I was truly thinking, but didn't say. It is right on point.
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DragonAttack, I think Chino and I were coming at it from a point of safety. That gal could have been a violent lunatic, she could have had a knife or other weapon. You wouldn't have known and getting out of your car put yourself unnecessarily in danger, with nothing really to gain. I can assure you we have all been in a similar situation on the roadways. I hit a guy on a bike once in the company van with my passenger-side mirror. I thought I veered in to him but he was on the sidewalk and I didn't hit the curb. I talked to a guy who saw it all and he said the bicycle guy steered in to me and would have gone in to the street if I wasn't there. I was terrified thinking I could have killed a guy for the next couple days all because a dude couldn't control his bike.
As to the part with the cop, yeah sounds like an overreaction, and a dialogue where you could have presented your story would have benefited the encounter greatly.
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The wife and I were doing some simple finalized shopping for a small group to visit here tonight.
On our way home on a 30MPH street this morning, a total nutjob female suddenly darted in front of our car and was screaming. I have no idea if she was out of her element, waited way to late to cross the boulevard, or was trying to commit suicide, with our vehicle being her exit device. We came to a halt about two feet from her, and I jumped out of my vehicle yelling and wondering WTF was her problem. A county cop was nearby. He got out of his vehicle, grabbed me, and then started to yell and chastise ME for yelling at her!!! And then threatened us, without ever going up to that individual to find out what HER problem was.
We've known every Precinct captain over the past seven years, the county commanders, etc....because we are 'big shots' in a way with the county police and our elected officials. But, WE were threatened for 'harrassing' some nut who was lucky that I have great peripheral vision. Yes, I have his badge number, the car number, and will be talking with Captain Chemelli and Commander Hyatt tomorrow.
Glad that the last day of the year did not result in a fatality at 'my hands'.
Why even get out of the car? People fuck up. No one got hurt. Let it go and carry on with your life. I don't blame the cop.
Sounds like the cop just saw a man screaming at a woman. I doubt the cop will get in trouble...unless trouble is made for him I guess.
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The wife and I were doing some simple finalized shopping for a small group to visit here tonight.
On our way home on a 30MPH street this morning, a total nutjob female suddenly darted in front of our car and was screaming. I have no idea if she was out of her element, waited way to late to cross the boulevard, or was trying to commit suicide, with our vehicle being her exit device. We came to a halt about two feet from her, and I jumped out of my vehicle yelling and wondering WTF was her problem. A county cop was nearby. He got out of his vehicle, grabbed me, and then started to yell and chastise ME for yelling at her!!! And then threatened us, without ever going up to that individual to find out what HER problem was.
We've known every Precinct captain over the past seven years, the county commanders, etc....because we are 'big shots' in a way with the county police and our elected officials. But, WE were threatened for 'harrassing' some nut who was lucky that I have great peripheral vision. Yes, I have his badge number, the car number, and will be talking with Captain Chemelli and Commander Hyatt tomorrow.
Glad that the last day of the year did not result in a fatality at 'my hands'.
It's a miracle she lived and no one died. I guess it's by the grace of God that everyone survived.
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I'm so sorry. Man, those are the type of people I want to see suffer a slow, torturous death.
This.
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and now what's p*ssing me off are some of these responses. Walk a mile in my shoes............
Oh c'mon man. I sit in 350 miles of traffic every week. I've seen everything there is to see on the road. Getting out of your car and escalating a scene, especially when there was no accident involved, is just foolish and unnecessary.
And then threatened us, without ever going up to that individual to find out what HER problem was.
If the cop didn't see the incident play out, what do you expect? He's sees a man in public out in the middle of the road, berating and screaming at someone with no damage to either car. Walk a mile in the cop's shoes............
We've known every Precinct captain over the past seven years, the county commanders, etc....because we are 'big shots' in a way with the county police and our elected officials.
Seems a little entitled to me, like you expected some sort of immunity for your actions based on your connections. You could just have easily endangered others with your display of rage.
Buy a dashcam.
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If the cop didn't see the incident play out, what do you expect? He's sees a man in public out in the middle of the road, berating and screaming at someone with no damage to either car. Walk a mile in the cop's shoes............
She was a pedestrian.
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Woke up to a phone call (voice mail) asking if I'll come in and cover a shift... As someone called out SICK at one of our accounts.
I feel bad because if I don't drive down to cover it, our field supervisor will wind up having to work a double shift to cover it.
Here's my reasoning why I won't do it.
A: The person called out sick. On a holiday. I've gotten shit the last 2 times I tried to call in sick (I had 2 sick days I couldn't use and were just lost at midnight)
2: Yes it's holiday pay, but if I take this shift, I'll be pulled off of another shift later in the week. So while I'll still be getting time and a half, I'll lose out on the extra money I should be getting.
C: I was told last minute (okay 2 day notice) that instead of being off NYE evening, I was being sent to cover a post until midnight. So I rang in New Years Eve while working. When I actually had plans.
I'm technically not off tomorrow because I have to bring my work car in for tires, oil change, etc . That's going to be a 2-3 hour ordeal.
E: I got home at 1:00 AM and got to bed at almost 3. You called me at 8:30 AM. I'm going back to bed.
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Good for you, Jay.
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Woke up to a phone call (voice mail) asking if I'll come in and cover a shift... As someone called out SICK at one of our accounts.
I feel bad because if I don't drive down to cover it, our field supervisor will wind up having to work a double shift to cover it.
Here's my reasoning why I won't do it.
A: The person called out sick. On a holiday. I've gotten shit the last 2 times I tried to call in sick (I had 2 sick days I couldn't use and were just lost at midnight)
2: Yes it's holiday pay, but if I take this shift, I'll be pulled off of another shift later in the week. So while I'll still be getting time and a half, I'll lose out on the extra money I should be getting.
C: I was told last minute (okay 2 day notice) that instead of being off NYE evening, I was being sent to cover a post until midnight. So I rang in New Years Eve while working. When I actually had plans.
I'm technically not off tomorrow because I have to bring my work car in for tires, oil change, etc . That's going to be a 2-3 hour ordeal.
E: I got home at 1:00 AM and got to bed at almost 3. You called me at 8:30 AM. I'm going back to bed.
That's the Supervisors job to do those extra covers when shit goes down and there's no fill ins.
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Yes, but we only have 1 field supervisor at the moment. Usually 2. I am technically not a field supervisor, but am trained on 7 of our accounts. Usually he gets stuck covering before I do. He's no stranger to being on the clock for 16-20 hours at a time. He just can't physically be in 2 or 3 places at once.
Still, give me my damn day off.
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I especially don't like where you have to give the hours back later in the week.
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I especially don't like where you have to give the hours back later in the week.
Since I am at a higher pay rate than others, she (the girl whom does the scheduling who's entire focus is on cutting OT) will do everything she can to save the company money. When honestly... what's a few dollars when you look at the big picture? Especially since everything was filled (meaning no client had a hole in their coverage, coverage that they pay for hourly per their contract). That was my opinion when I was running my own account.
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I especially don't like where you have to give the hours back later in the week.
Yeah, I don't agree with that either.
Yes, but we only have 1 field supervisor at the moment. Usually 2. I am technically not a field supervisor, but am trained on 7 of our accounts. Usually he gets stuck covering before I do. He's no stranger to being on the clock for 16-20 hours at a time. He just can't physically be in 2 or 3 places at once.
Still, give me my damn day off.
I see why you'd feel bad, but does the buck stop with him? Maybe he needs to express concerns higher.
I especially don't like where you have to give the hours back later in the week.
Since I am at a higher pay rate than others, she (the girl whom does the scheduling who's entire focus is on cutting OT) will do everything she can to save the company money. When honestly... what's a few dollars when you look at the big picture? Especially since everything was filled (meaning no client had a hole in their coverage, coverage that they pay for hourly per their contract). That was my opinion when I was running my own account.
Bugger them mate. I bet she's getting paid extra though.
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Jay, I'm a supervisor and have done so much free shit for years to try and save the company money. Over the last 12 months, I've finally realised that it doesn't mean shit. They value me as much as some fuckass that's been there 5 minutes and doesn't add any value to the company. I'm in local government so it may be different but I've built a rod for my own back over the years with the amount of work I do and I demand to get paid extra now.
Trying to save the company money only made my boss look good (which he takes credit for all my work) and the only reason he bullied us into not putting in overtime was to meet his KPI's to get his yearly bonus. He use to say if we put in too much overtime it would put our program and business into jeopardy and could potentially lose our jobs. I'm a smart guy but couldn't believe I fell for this for so long. I guess this prick is lucky I'm a workaholic and have morals and standards but he is looking good because of my work, and my teams work. He gets paid double what I do and if he does overtime, he fucking gets paid.
Fuck them Jay and don't feel bad. There's always more going on behind the scenes in most cases. Especially people trying to save the company money. It's for their own gain, not the company.
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One of my managers about 5 years ago used to text me pictures of shit I didn't get done. When I finally had enough, I told him the next time he does that, I am blocking him, and I will charge him an hour to read any text he sends me while I'm off the clock.
You have my number as a courtesy. I don't mind answering a question, but don't use it to bust my balls.
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One of my managers about 5 years ago used to text me pictures of shit I didn't get done. When I finally had enough, I told him the next time he does that, I am blocking him, and I will charge him an hour to read any text he sends me while I'm off the clock.
You have my number as a courtesy. I don't mind answering a question, but don't use it to bust my balls.
What a weak cunt.
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One of my managers about 5 years ago used to text me pictures of shit I didn't get done. When I finally had enough, I told him the next time he does that, I am blocking him, and I will charge him an hour to read any text he sends me while I'm off the clock.
You have my number as a courtesy. I don't mind answering a question, but don't use it to bust my balls.
What a weak cunt.
Yeah, I had just worked a 9 hour day sick as a fucking dog, and I did it to set up a huge seasonal display. I left a shelf leaning up against the wall. Are you kidding me. I told him in the time it took to take the picture nd text me, he could've just supported his team and taken care of it.
Shit that's not the half of it. As I told you offline, I used to do that job. I fucking aired him out after that. What a fucking disgrace. I used to page him to the front end when it got busy just to piss him off. He'd be up hiding under his desk. pathetic.
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I hate when people - because they have the "title" of being your manager - feel they are superior and more knowledgable than you. I've worked for a few people who didn't know 1/2 of what I knew about the job, and where I could have just as easily been their manager. Some people need to learn a little humility, as well as understand what makes a good *leader*. Fortunately, I have a humble boss right now - I could do his job in a heartbeat, but I don't need the shit that he has to deal with. He appreciates the fuck out of everything our team does.
First time in a LONG time I've had that. But yeah.... I've been through all that shit with ass-clown, arrogant, shit-for-brains bosses.
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That's all true, and I've been there too, for sure. But there's also the other side; at least you two seem to understand that bosses often have a different responsibility list, and different metrics. There are a LOT of people that are all like "F my boss, man, I could way do his/her job so much better than they can!" then you dig in and realize that they have zero clue what their bosses obligations/deliverables really are. If they are a boss, they by definition they have staffing issues, they have review responsibility, they have roll-up (for numbers) responsibility...
Bosses are not EXCLUSIVELY around to make your job easier; they are around to meet their metrics. GOOD bosses will make every effort to do both, and will be honest and forthright (and will contribute themselves) when they cannot.
I'm not at all suggesting that anyone here is wrong or out of line in their criticism of bosses - first, how would I know I don't work for or with them, and second, even if I was to guess what it's like, it doesn't sound like it - but to sort of provide the alternate view.
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I kinda disagree with some of that Bill. A good/great boss will A) align the goals of their staff to support their own goals/measurements, and then B) do everything possible to allow their staff to succeed... which in turn means they succeed. Yes, bosses have different responsibilities, and have things such as you suggest. In the end, if a boss is successful / meets their goals on the backs of (or at the expense of) their staff, they are a great employee but a horrible fucking boss.
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I kinda disagree with some of that Bill. A good/great boss will A) align the goals of their staff to support their own goals/measurements, and then B) do everything possible to allow their staff to succeed... which in turn means they succeed. Yes, bosses have different responsibilities, and have things such as you suggest. In the end, if a boss is successful / meets their goals on the backs of (or at the expense of) their staff, they are a great employee but a horrible fucking boss.
I don't disagree with that; but "alignment" doesn't mean they are the same. There's a point at which the tasks morph from the issue at hand - making widgets, selling gizmos, whatever - to managing the business of making widgets, selling gizmos, whatever, and that is the point about which I am talking.
EVERY business has areas where the metrics conflict. My entire function often works at odds from the business in that way; I've worked at one company that entirely pulled my function out of the operation in order to preserve that conflict for benefit. Sales guys want to SELL PRODUCT. Things like cash flows and - god forbid - terms and conditions/contracts slow that shit right down. So now there is conflict. Chad the Sales Guy is all "I have an opportunity here!" and Bill the Contracts Guy is all "but we have to manage risk!" and Chad's all "But the sale! They've said NO EXCEPTIONS to their terms and conditions!" and Bill's all "well then you have to price the risk or negotiate better terms, but we can't bet the company on this one order!" and Chad's all "but without orders there IS no company, and besides, that's NEVER going to happen!" and Bill's like "but it just happened out in California four years ago to our competitor" and Chad's all...
So the manager has to manage. The sales guy can't be all "fucking manager; hasn't sold a gizmo in 35 years; I could SO do his job" and the contracts guy can't be all "fucking manager; all he cares about is his sales numbers; this company is going to be in the shitter in a year and a half; I could SO do his job".
My management style is not very confrontational or antagonistic - I go for buy-in, and as the business attorney, I make sure that I have a good relationship with the Customer Directors (the lead sales people) - but that's not always easy.
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I kind of like the "lead by example" persona of a manager. That means getting your hands dirty when necessary.
I lead a 12 person data center team at my previous job, while I felt some of my reports would be annoyed I would be at my desk doing work while they were maybe doing something physical or tedious in the data center, but that's not really my problem for having some poor idea of what their boss should be doing. However, when the work would pile up or the team would be struggling, I'd have no issue dropping my individual responsibilities and helping out, showing the team how to do things and leading by example of what they should follow.
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That's all true, and I've been there too, for sure. But there's also the other side; at least you two seem to understand that bosses often have a different responsibility list, and different metrics. There are a LOT of people that are all like "F my boss, man, I could way do his/her job so much better than they can!" then you dig in and realize that they have zero clue what their bosses obligations/deliverables really are. If they are a boss, they by definition they have staffing issues, they have review responsibility, they have roll-up (for numbers) responsibility...
Bosses are not EXCLUSIVELY around to make your job easier; they are around to meet their metrics. GOOD bosses will make every effort to do both, and will be honest and forthright (and will contribute themselves) when they cannot.
I'm not at all suggesting that anyone here is wrong or out of line in their criticism of bosses - first, how would I know I don't work for or with them, and second, even if I was to guess what it's like, it doesn't sound like it - but to sort of provide the alternate view.
I've tried to understand all of that from my boss. Saying that, the boss I speak of is my boss' moss, but my boss is more on my level and the boss above them is the one the buck stops with. I've tried for years to see the side of what he does and try and get a bit of a more optimistic view to try and curb my negative viewpoint. The problem is, it always comes back to him being an absolute liar, leech, backstabber and a boss that wouldn't have a damn clue who most of his staff are and what goes on from a day to day point of view.
I don't expect him to have an in and out knowledge of day to day operations because as you say Bill, he has different roles and criteria to meet. But when the boss gets caught out as a liar over and over, takes 2 hour lunch breaks, tells the staff about how much he drank on the weekend and which sports team he is going to bet on, yet if those staff are doing something wrong and he sees it, won't say anything and tells me to tell them off, get fucked. He also crumbles under pressure, and when the heat is on, doesn't back us up and throws us under the bus to save his on skin.
I get what your saying when people go off half cocked and really have no idea on the underlying responsibilities or pressure a boss can be under but my particular boss I've worked with for 7 years now and in all that time, he hasn't helped me one bit. I simply don't need him to do my job, yet he fucking needs me. The only one thing I've learnt from this guy is what NOT to do as a manager. I've learnt so much watching him that it's made me stronger, a better supervisor, made me create a better culture within my team and simply affirmed how I run things and go about my duties and people management. Saying that, being so invested he simply takes advantage of my work ethic and as I said, reaps the benefits.
I kind of like the "lead by example" persona of a manager. That means getting your hands dirty when necessary.
I lead a 12 person data center team at my previous job, while I felt some of my reports would be annoyed I would be at my desk doing work while they were maybe doing something physical or tedious in the data center, but that's not really my problem for having some poor idea of what their boss should be doing. However, when the work would pile up or the team would be struggling, I'd have no issue dropping my individual responsibilities and helping out, showing the team how to do things and leading by example of what they should follow.
Yeah, it can really be that simple. Creating that culture that you are a manager are no better than their staff and you would go out of their way simply goes a long way in getting the productivity and respect back. There's nothing worse than a boss telling people to do things yet, if they had to step in and do it themselves, they'd be fucked. Yes, this is not expected of some managers because as Bill said, they would have different things to fulfill, but being seen to be all in goes a long way. Just don't get suckered in by staff taking advantage of that. Don't let it get to a point where it's like they think if they don't do it, you'll come and clean up after them. I've been there too and that's just as bad.
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I kinda disagree with some of that Bill. A good/great boss will A) align the goals of their staff to support their own goals/measurements, and then B) do everything possible to allow their staff to succeed... which in turn means they succeed. Yes, bosses have different responsibilities, and have things such as you suggest. In the end, if a boss is successful / meets their goals on the backs of (or at the expense of) their staff, they are a great employee but a horrible fucking boss.
I think you can look at that two ways. Bosses NEED their staff to succeed. It's up to the staff fulfilling the duties to decide if they do it for their boss out of respect or just because it's their job, or sometimes both. It's also up to the boss how he repays the staff for getting the job done for them.
If they are using and abusing their staff to get the job done and taking the credit, then yes good employee, awful boss. It's up to the boss to delegate effectively yet get the productivity out of the workers but as you said helping and doing whatever they can to get the staff to achieve the deliverable. And in turn getting the staff to work FOR THEM, and sharing the success.
I once spoke to the highest manager above the boss I'm talking about and expressed my concerns. He sees nothing of what goes on and any info about our program comes only from the boss, so obviously his view on everything is completely fucked. He once told me that this guy 'meets all of his expectations of a manager.' No matter what I said, he wouldn't listen, he met his targets and meets all expectations. Absolute cunt is pissing on everyone below him and we think he's a piece of shit but no problem mate.
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The problem is, it always comes back to him being an absolute liar, leech, backstabber
Well, almost everything I've said goes right out the window with that. I get it, people be people, but there's a modicum of trust and transparency that has to be present for all this to work. you don't have to love your co-workers, you don't have to even like them, but there's got to be a level of reality involved. I'm a big fan of Jack Welch in that way: attack the problem not the person, and see the world the way it is, not the way you want it to be. I don't really care about credit - I've had plenty of instances where someone else got credit for my hard work over the years; I've never done it consciously, but I'm sure somewhere down the line someone is crediting me for something that someone else actually did - but you've got to be nominally pulling in the same direction.
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I don't really care about credit - I've had plenty of instances where someone else got credit for my hard work over the years;
Good point.
;D
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The problem is, it always comes back to him being an absolute liar, leech, backstabber
Well, almost everything I've said goes right out the window with that. I get it, people be people, but there's a modicum of trust and transparency that has to be present for all this to work. you don't have to love your co-workers, you don't have to even like them, but there's got to be a level of reality involved. I'm a big fan of Jack Welch in that way: attack the problem not the person, and see the world the way it is, not the way you want it to be. I don't really care about credit - I've had plenty of instances where someone else got credit for my hard work over the years; I've never done it consciously, but I'm sure somewhere down the line someone is crediting me for something that someone else actually did - but you've got to be nominally pulling in the same direction.
That's exactly the issue Bill. My boss blatantly doesn't give a fuck and goes out of his way to avoid and ignore everything possible, and when you have some sort of interaction he's passive agressive and defensive. I've tried to be transparent and open and he said he was going to do the same but that cleary doesn't happen. That's when all respect is lost and only a big 'fuck you' is left to be said. No matter what with the things he's done, even if he tried to change, I'm done.
And same with credit. If I was worried about credit, I would have been gone 10 years ago, but when all goes well, it's all his doing. When shit goes wrong, it's my team and my fault.
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So
My company had a bunch accounts that are all high end apartments in Marina Del Rey. A couple of the accounts had us making coffee for tenants every morning (prepping a bunch of those big industrial coffee dispensers). This particular site that ive been stuck at consists of 6 of those giant 2 gallon dispensers (5 reg and 1 decaf) and 1 gallon dispensers of hot water for tea. Simple enough. Process takes an hour and a half, as you have to wheel them out and up an elevator 2 at a time.
Coffee is "served" at 7... So I start brewing at 530 ish, and start set up at 630, and usually am done a few minutes before 7.
650 comes along. I have all but 2 coffee dispensers and 1 water dispenser set up. Dude stops me and asks where the decaf is. I tell him it brewing and should be out within 10 minutes. Apparently that wasn't good enough and he started giving me shit. I explained that I usually try to get Decaf out sooner, but in this case the decaf was the last dispenser I could get to (they are all filled with fresh water every night after cleaning, and I with my wrist issues have to dump each one. Takes time... And I'm not going to play musical dispensers to get to it- obviously I didn't say that to him...)
It's like.... Come on. You're getting free coffee. All you can drink free fresh brewed coffee. Technically you're not even supposed to touch it till 7 AM. Give me a goddamn break..
So I go back down to the little room where we brew the coffee... And decide to fill the last hot water dispenser while the last 2 coffees are brewing. It's just a little tap you turn on and off manually and hold the container underneath while you fill. Well... I completely spaced out while filling (I'm running on like 3 hours of sleep in the last 28+ hours) and move the container. Thus spilling boiling water on my hand and all over my shirt and boots. Luckily I reacted fast enough that I didn't burn myself too badly...
I load it all up and take it up stairs to where the coffee is served. Dude is standing there waiting, and I had to shoo him away as he wasn't even going to let me set it up before he tried to get his coffee. I toss it up, put the drip tray down, mumbled "have a great night" (again... I'm fucking tired) and went back downstairs. Normally I'd make everything look neat and tidy up there... But you know what? Fuck it. And fuck that dude and his decaf. :JayOctavarium:
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Hackers pissed me off today. Someone got a hold of my wife's debit card info and drained our checking account today through something called Coinbase.
Several phone calls have now happened. My wife is at the bank. We have to call the police and file a report. Meanwhile, I have no money until this is resolved. Well, at least until Friday. Of course, I also have an auto-pay bill that plans to pay out tomorrow. Trying to figure out how to get that sorted out.
I hate people that do this, I really do. Completely ruined my vibe for New Year's. I'm staggeringly pissed.
If you catch the a-hole that did it, try to have the Coinbase account liquidated by the authorities as well (proceeds from illegal activity... it's worth a shot). If the hacker used your funds to buy in before the most recent 15% run-up in BTC, you may be able to get more back than was stolen from you.
Sorry to hear about it... maybe contact Coinbase as well and have them trace the wallet if possible.
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So
My company had a bunch accounts that are all high end apartments in Marina Del Rey. A couple of the accounts had us making coffee for tenants every morning (prepping a bunch of those big industrial coffee dispensers). This particular site that ive been stuck at consists of 6 of those giant 2 gallon dispensers (5 reg and 1 decaf) and 1 gallon dispensers of hot water for tea. Simple enough. Process takes an hour and a half, as you have to wheel them out and up an elevator 2 at a time.
Coffee is "served" at 7... So I start brewing at 530 ish, and start set up at 630, and usually am done a few minutes before 7.
650 comes along. I have all but 2 coffee dispensers and 1 water dispenser set up. Dude stops me and asks where the decaf is. I tell him it brewing and should be out within 10 minutes. Apparently that wasn't good enough and he started giving me shit. I explained that I usually try to get Decaf out sooner, but in this case the decaf was the last dispenser I could get to (they are all filled with fresh water every night after cleaning, and I with my wrist issues have to dump each one. Takes time... And I'm not going to play musical dispensers to get to it- obviously I didn't say that to him...)
It's like.... Come on. You're getting free coffee. All you can drink free fresh brewed coffee. Technically you're not even supposed to touch it till 7 AM. Give me a goddamn break..
So I go back down to the little room where we brew the coffee... And decide to fill the last hot water dispenser while the last 2 coffees are brewing. It's just a little tap you turn on and off manually and hold the container underneath while you fill. Well... I completely spaced out while filling (I'm running on like 3 hours of sleep in the last 28+ hours) and move the container. Thus spilling boiling water on my hand and all over my shirt and boots. Luckily I reacted fast enough that I didn't burn myself too badly...
I load it all up and take it up stairs to where the coffee is served. Dude is standing there waiting, and I had to shoo him away as he wasn't even going to let me set it up before he tried to get his coffee. I toss it up, put the drip tray down, mumbled "have a great night" (again... I'm fucking tired) and went back downstairs. Normally I'd make everything look neat and tidy up there... But you know what? Fuck it. And fuck that dude and his decaf. :JayOctavarium:
This dude deserved a big old fuck off if you ask me!!
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Nobody knows that better than you. Isn't that right, buddy boy?
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Nobody knows that better than you. Isn't that right, buddy boy?
:tup
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A few months ago, one of my little sister's friends set up a Facebook fundraising page to help my family with the expenses of paying for my little sister's funeral.
About a month after it went live, I noticed the page was down, so after a few days I contacted her (my sister's friend) to ask what was up. She said she was waiting for a check from Facebook. 2 months have gone by, not a peep out of her, no mention of a check coming our way. I am about to message her again asking what the deal is, but because she's spent 2 months now not giving any indication of any goings-on, I can only assume she made $525 off the death of my sister, and her alleged "best friend."
I bring this up now because her dad just walked into my place of business and I had to bite my tongue so as to not bring it up.
I am pissed, and I really want to confront her about it, but I don't know if it'll accomplish anything. I don't like being angry, but this infuriates me to my core.
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Hey I'm sorry to hear that; that's the lowest of the low, if you ask me.
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That's absolutely disgusting Michael. Definitely message her and ask if you ask me. Despicable actions if this is the case, and the people that donated should be made aware if they have taken the money for themselves.
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I would follow up just for principle along. It could be $10 she raised and she should be handing that money to your family.
Sorry you have to go through this on such hard times.
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Conveniently, she messaged back *right away* and said she had just sent it off in the mail. That doesn't explain why it's set for $350 when the total last I looked was $525. Whatever... we'll see if and when it arrives.
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That's not a whatever thing imo. First, let's see if the check arrives and clears, then where is your fucking money?! (In italian mob boss voice)
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Conveniently, she messaged back *right away* and said she had just sent it off in the mail. That doesn't explain why it's set for $350 when the total last I looked was $525. Whatever... we'll see if and when it arrives.
Not really good enough mate, but take comfort in knowing you can erase this person from your life and don't look back.
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I'd say "congratulations, you made at least 175 dollars off your best friend's death" and never contact her again.
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Tiny tiny people who think they can act and talk big because they're (in their own mind) in a position of power. Look ass-clown, you put your pants on one leg at a time in the morning ... that is if you even wear the pants in your family (I suspect not). You are no better than anyone else, and reveal your tiny dick syndrome if you feel you need flex your muscle through some perceived notion of power that you wish you actually had. So go right ahead... swing it around like you're Dexter walkin on a Bahamanian beach. You can rest your head on your pillow at night all proud of your display of "power" thinking you're big man on campus... reality is everyone around you sees you for what you are... tiny. Brain, dick, and personality.
Bite me, your assholiness.
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Tiny tiny people who think they can act and talk big because they're (in their own mind) in a position of power. Look ass-clown, you put your pants on one leg at a time in the morning ... that is if you even wear the pants in your family (I suspect not). You are no better than anyone else, and reveal your tiny dick syndrome if you feel you need flex your muscle through some perceived notion of power that you wish you actually had. So go right ahead... swing it around like you're Dexter walkin on a Bahamanian beach. You can rest your head on your pillow at night all proud of your display of "power" thinking you're big man on campus... reality is everyone around you sees you for what you are... tiny. Brain, dick, and personality.
Bite me, your assholiness.
Tim ... Bill ....
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I know Chad, their posts about three out of four pissed me off too.
Seriously though, that's a mighty rant. :lol
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Tiny tiny people who think they can act and talk big because they're (in their own mind) in a position of power. Look ass-clown, you put your pants on one leg at a time in the morning ... that is if you even wear the pants in your family (I suspect not). You are no better than anyone else, and reveal your tiny dick syndrome if you feel you need flex your muscle through some perceived notion of power that you wish you actually had. So go right ahead... swing it around like you're Dexter walkin on a Bahamanian beach. You can rest your head on your pillow at night all proud of your display of "power" thinking you're big man on campus... reality is everyone around you sees you for what you are... tiny. Brain, dick, and personality.
Bite me, your assholiness.
I really enjoyed reading this. Wonderful stuff! I'd love more details but this was nice.
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Hackers pissed me off today. Someone got a hold of my wife's debit card info and drained our checking account today through something called Coinbase.
Several phone calls have now happened. My wife is at the bank. We have to call the police and file a report. Meanwhile, I have no money until this is resolved. Well, at least until Friday. Of course, I also have an auto-pay bill that plans to pay out tomorrow. Trying to figure out how to get that sorted out.
I hate people that do this, I really do. Completely ruined my vibe for New Year's. I'm staggeringly pissed.
If you catch the a-hole that did it, try to have the Coinbase account liquidated by the authorities as well (proceeds from illegal activity... it's worth a shot). If the hacker used your funds to buy in before the most recent 15% run-up in BTC, you may be able to get more back than was stolen from you.
Sorry to hear about it... maybe contact Coinbase as well and have them trace the wallet if possible.
Well, this took another turn today. Out at lunch with my old co-workers from 20 years ago (we get together around Christmas every year) and my wife texts me that the bank just shut down our checking account and will be closing it due to fraud. I'm an hour from home with no money to my name. Thankfully, my buddies covered me, but that's not the point. Our funds are frozen until everything is cleared and then we have to create a brand new account and they will move our money over there.
Not to mention, my oldest friend didn't show to lunch. I texted to ask if he's okay as he has been battling cancer for a few years and he reaches out to me on my way home that his doctors told him they don't think he has much time left.
Then, my dog went from being a peppy, happy fun-loving dog to a doorstop in a matter of days. Wife calls me on the way home and tells me to meet her at the vet. We are fearing cancer. Turns out, he has diabetes and his blood sugar is 450 when it should be below 100. He is now on insulin twice a day and prescription food for the rest of his life.
As a friend of mine told me today, no luck is better than the kind of luck that follows me around.
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Dayum Prof... that's real shitty all around. Just a terrible trifecta.... personal, friend, and pet.
:hug:
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Didn't really piss me off but I found it pretty annoying.
GF and I went to dinner with her grandfather and his wife. Wound up putting like $150 towards the bill before hand (because he's pretty well off and usually refuses to allow us to contribute to dinners like that... But it was for his birthday so he can deal with it.). Super fancy steakhouse type place. We order a bottle of wine. Our server, who was a senior citizen, just brings 2 glasses for my GF's grandfather and his wife. He when he poured, we asked where our glssses were he just shrugged and said he just thought we weren't drinking. It's like... Dude how fucking old do you think we are? He didn't even bother to ask, but you'd think it would be assumed when her grandfather said "yadda yadda bottle for the table" that we'd be drinking. Maybe it's because at our initial drink offers unasked for a diet coke and she went with water? If it wasn't for the fact that it was a 2 hour drive, I may have ordered a beer or something. (I still planned on having a small. Amount of wine).. For dessert I ordered a cappuccino. (caffeine for the drive). The server, in a super sarcastic way bends down and asks if I wanted it with alcohol in it. Dude... Really?
I don't know. The experience left a bad taste in my mouth.
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That I can't turn off my own stupid brain and fall back asleep when I wake up much earlier than I need to.
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Hackers pissed me off today. Someone got a hold of my wife's debit card info and drained our checking account today through something called Coinbase.
Several phone calls have now happened. My wife is at the bank. We have to call the police and file a report. Meanwhile, I have no money until this is resolved. Well, at least until Friday. Of course, I also have an auto-pay bill that plans to pay out tomorrow. Trying to figure out how to get that sorted out.
I hate people that do this, I really do. Completely ruined my vibe for New Year's. I'm staggeringly pissed.
If you catch the a-hole that did it, try to have the Coinbase account liquidated by the authorities as well (proceeds from illegal activity... it's worth a shot). If the hacker used your funds to buy in before the most recent 15% run-up in BTC, you may be able to get more back than was stolen from you.
Sorry to hear about it... maybe contact Coinbase as well and have them trace the wallet if possible.
Well, this took another turn today. Out at lunch with my old co-workers from 20 years ago (we get together around Christmas every year) and my wife texts me that the bank just shut down our checking account and will be closing it due to fraud. I'm an hour from home with no money to my name. Thankfully, my buddies covered me, but that's not the point. Our funds are frozen until everything is cleared and then we have to create a brand new account and they will move our money over there.
Not to mention, my oldest friend didn't show to lunch. I texted to ask if he's okay as he has been battling cancer for a few years and he reaches out to me on my way home that his doctors told him they don't think he has much time left.
Then, my dog went from being a peppy, happy fun-loving dog to a doorstop in a matter of days. Wife calls me on the way home and tells me to meet her at the vet. We are fearing cancer. Turns out, he has diabetes and his blood sugar is 450 when it should be below 100. He is now on insulin twice a day and prescription food for the rest of his life.
As a friend of mine told me today, no luck is better than the kind of luck that follows me around.
Dude that's awful, really awful.
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Tiny tiny people who think they can act and talk big because they're (in their own mind) in a position of power. Look ass-clown, you put your pants on one leg at a time in the morning ... that is if you even wear the pants in your family (I suspect not). You are no better than anyone else, and reveal your tiny dick syndrome if you feel you need flex your muscle through some perceived notion of power that you wish you actually had. So go right ahead... swing it around like you're Dexter walkin on a Bahamanian beach. You can rest your head on your pillow at night all proud of your display of "power" thinking you're big man on campus... reality is everyone around you sees you for what you are... tiny. Brain, dick, and personality.
Bite me, your assholiness.
This is a big one for me. It's too easy to generalize, but you get this a lot at municipal customer "service" branches, as well as on telephone customer service outlets.
I don't like speculating, but basic human nature says that when they're on the other side of the counter, I bet they're singing a different tune.
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Hackers pissed me off today. Someone got a hold of my wife's debit card info and drained our checking account today through something called Coinbase.
Several phone calls have now happened. My wife is at the bank. We have to call the police and file a report. Meanwhile, I have no money until this is resolved. Well, at least until Friday. Of course, I also have an auto-pay bill that plans to pay out tomorrow. Trying to figure out how to get that sorted out.
I hate people that do this, I really do. Completely ruined my vibe for New Year's. I'm staggeringly pissed.
If you catch the a-hole that did it, try to have the Coinbase account liquidated by the authorities as well (proceeds from illegal activity... it's worth a shot). If the hacker used your funds to buy in before the most recent 15% run-up in BTC, you may be able to get more back than was stolen from you.
Sorry to hear about it... maybe contact Coinbase as well and have them trace the wallet if possible.
Well, this took another turn today. Out at lunch with my old co-workers from 20 years ago (we get together around Christmas every year) and my wife texts me that the bank just shut down our checking account and will be closing it due to fraud. I'm an hour from home with no money to my name. Thankfully, my buddies covered me, but that's not the point. Our funds are frozen until everything is cleared and then we have to create a brand new account and they will move our money over there.
Not to mention, my oldest friend didn't show to lunch. I texted to ask if he's okay as he has been battling cancer for a few years and he reaches out to me on my way home that his doctors told him they don't think he has much time left.
Then, my dog went from being a peppy, happy fun-loving dog to a doorstop in a matter of days. Wife calls me on the way home and tells me to meet her at the vet. We are fearing cancer. Turns out, he has diabetes and his blood sugar is 450 when it should be below 100. He is now on insulin twice a day and prescription food for the rest of his life.
As a friend of mine told me today, no luck is better than the kind of luck that follows me around.
Wow, there are no words, especially for the second and third items. Godspeed for the health of your friends (yes, I called your dog your friend). As for the first, that doesn't sound right to me; isn't there a way of managing that (on the bank's part) without that level of inconvenience?
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Tiny tiny people who think they can act and talk big because they're (in their own mind) in a position of power. Look ass-clown, you put your pants on one leg at a time in the morning ... that is if you even wear the pants in your family (I suspect not). You are no better than anyone else, and reveal your tiny dick syndrome if you feel you need flex your muscle through some perceived notion of power that you wish you actually had. So go right ahead... swing it around like you're Dexter walkin on a Bahamanian beach. You can rest your head on your pillow at night all proud of your display of "power" thinking you're big man on campus... reality is everyone around you sees you for what you are... tiny. Brain, dick, and personality.
Bite me, your assholiness.
This is a big one for me. It's too easy to generalize, but you get this a lot at municipal customer "service" branches, as well as on telephone customer service outlets.
I don't like speculating, but basic human nature says that when they're on the other side of the counter, I bet they're singing a different tune.
I've told this story before, but years ago, there was a telemarketer who called up the shop. My old man answered it and, because it was at a conveniently quiet time of day, I could hear sounds of the telemarketer's voice on the other end. No actual words, just that low hum of an occasional word or two. Well my old man shut up him right away and said "no thanks, I'm busy" and hung up. 10 seconds later the phone rings again, old man picks it up, and I hear very clearly an angry man on the other line yelling, "Did you just hang up on me? NOBODY HANGS UP ON ME!" and then he hung up. :lol
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Tiny tiny people who think they can act and talk big because they're (in their own mind) in a position of power. Look ass-clown, you put your pants on one leg at a time in the morning ... that is if you even wear the pants in your family (I suspect not). You are no better than anyone else, and reveal your tiny dick syndrome if you feel you need flex your muscle through some perceived notion of power that you wish you actually had. So go right ahead... swing it around like you're Dexter walkin on a Bahamanian beach. You can rest your head on your pillow at night all proud of your display of "power" thinking you're big man on campus... reality is everyone around you sees you for what you are... tiny. Brain, dick, and personality.
Bite me, your assholiness.
:lol lovely rant!
Well, this took another turn today. Out at lunch with my old co-workers from 20 years ago (we get together around Christmas every year) and my wife texts me that the bank just shut down our checking account and will be closing it due to fraud. I'm an hour from home with no money to my name. Thankfully, my buddies covered me, but that's not the point. Our funds are frozen until everything is cleared and then we have to create a brand new account and they will move our money over there.
Not to mention, my oldest friend didn't show to lunch. I texted to ask if he's okay as he has been battling cancer for a few years and he reaches out to me on my way home that his doctors told him they don't think he has much time left.
Then, my dog went from being a peppy, happy fun-loving dog to a doorstop in a matter of days. Wife calls me on the way home and tells me to meet her at the vet. We are fearing cancer. Turns out, he has diabetes and his blood sugar is 450 when it should be below 100. He is now on insulin twice a day and prescription food for the rest of his life.
As a friend of mine told me today, no luck is better than the kind of luck that follows me around.
I'm with Stadler here. Sorry to hear about your two friends, must hard to go through that. The situation with the bank sounds more complicated than it should be. I would be pissed about it as well if it was me.
Did they give you a timeline of when you can expect everything to clear out?
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Tiny tiny people who think they can act and talk big because they're (in their own mind) in a position of power. Look ass-clown, you put your pants on one leg at a time in the morning ... that is if you even wear the pants in your family (I suspect not). You are no better than anyone else, and reveal your tiny dick syndrome if you feel you need flex your muscle through some perceived notion of power that you wish you actually had. So go right ahead... swing it around like you're Dexter walkin on a Bahamanian beach. You can rest your head on your pillow at night all proud of your display of "power" thinking you're big man on campus... reality is everyone around you sees you for what you are... tiny. Brain, dick, and personality.
Bite me, your assholiness.
:lol sounds like the bagel boss guy in new york
and ProfessorPeart, that sounds terrible. Sorry bud
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In a meeting last Friday (1/10): Given a date of 5/8 to submit a budget for a new 25,000 sq. ft. Wellness Therapy Medical Office Building.
Email Sent yesterday: "We've accelerated the project......can you have your budget and equipment list ready by E.O.D 1/16?"
Ummmm......no. In fact, that's incredibly confusing and pretty comical to even ask me that (3) business days after telling me I had (85) days to get you an accurate budget.
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Given a date of 5/8 to submit a budget for a new 25,000 sq. ft. Wellness Therapy Medical Office Building.
Nugget!
Yeah, that's actually laughable, Gary. 1 business day. Just remember there are three levels of service.
Fast
Good
Cheap
Pick any 2. They clearly want fast... do they want good or cheap to fall by the wayside?
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Thanks for all of the sentiments guys. And, yes Stads, my dog is absolutely a friend. He is the smartest animal I have ever had. So much so, I can't imagine getting another after him because he will be so hard to follow-up.
The bank has been wishy-washy. They have always been an over-safe bank when it comes to stuff like this so I don't fault them in their practices. We do have the option to go to a branch and get cash from a teller. Problem is, the closest branch is about 35 minutes away. We have moved a lot, but I have always been super satisfied with them so I have never had a desire to find something a little closer. They have my trust, which is hard to get.
As for my buddy, I have been sharing his news and now I have an army that wants to swing by his house to say goodbye. None of us are verbalizing it that way, but that is what we all feel inside. I will be calling his wife sometime soon to try to figure out logistics. She was also a co-worker for a while so I have a great relationship with her as well.
This year has started out about as bad as it could have. Really hoping for a turnaround.
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Thanks for all of the sentiments guys. And, yes Stads, my dog is absolutely a friend. He is the smartest animal I have ever had. So much so, I can't imagine getting another after him because he will be so hard to follow-up.
The bank has been wishy-washy. They have always been an over-safe bank when it comes to stuff like this so I don't fault them in their practices. We do have the option to go to a branch and get cash from a teller. Problem is, the closest branch is about 35 minutes away. We have moved a lot, but I have always been super satisfied with them so I have never had a desire to find something a little closer. They have my trust, which is hard to get.
As for my buddy, I have been sharing his news and now I have an army that wants to swing by his house to say goodbye. None of us are verbalizing it that way, but that is what we all feel inside. I will be calling his wife sometime soon to try to figure out logistics. She was also a co-worker for a while so I have a great relationship with her as well.
This year has started out about as bad as it could have. Really hoping for a turnaround.
I hope you do as well. That's some pretty rough stuff. I hope a lot of good fortune comes your way soon, and massive amounts of it!
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P-Peart...that blows!
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When I'm in the supermarket and people can't fucking wait 30 seconds for me to pick what I want and move on before coming and and nearly pushing me out of the cause they are in a hurry. Now, I don't waste time, I know what I want, but when people are looking at a product section that I come up to and need, I'll hang back, look at something else, go up the aisle grab something and come back til they are gone. I never stand making people feel uncomfortable that I'm waiting to grab something where they are or reach infront of them. Happened twice yesterday.
Grabbing some green beans, and let me tell you, I load up on the green beans, I love them. Grabbing my second handful and this fucknut comes right up behind, stands there with his little bag with his arms crossed just about up my ass. I could feel his eyes burning into the back of my head. I stood up, looked at him, stepped back and he scurried in like a fucking mouse and grabbed 3 beans and walked off. I then finished grabbing the rest of what I wanted. Couldn't fucking wait 15 seconds. Then looking at bacon I think in that aisle, then these people nearly ram their fucking trolley up both me and my misses' ass. Just literally bowled us out the way just kept walking into us cause we were where they wanted to be. Another woman was standing right in front of the almond milk texting on her phone. I waited and waited but just stepped in and said excuse me where she says sorry but with a dirty look.
Are people that fucking important that they simply don't have an extra 15 seconds to spare. The world need to stop, slow the fuck down and not be so self absorbed and oblivious to what's going on around them.
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When I'm in the supermarket and people can't fucking wait 30 seconds for me to pick what I want and move on before coming and and nearly pushing me out of the cause they are in a hurry. Now, I don't waste time, I know what I want, but when people are looking at a product section that I come up to and need, I'll hang back, look at something else, go up the aisle grab something and come back til they are gone. I never stand making people feel uncomfortable that I'm waiting to grab something where they are or reach infront of them. Happened twice yesterday.
Grabbing some green beans, and let me tell you, I load up on the green beans, I love them. Grabbing my second handful and this fucknut comes right up behind, stands there with his little bag with his arms crossed just about up my ass. I could feel his eyes burning into the back of my head. I stood up, looked at him, stepped back and he scurried in like a fucking mouse and grabbed 3 beans and walked off. I then finished grabbing the rest of what I wanted. Couldn't fucking wait 15 seconds. Then looking at bacon I think in that aisle, then these people nearly ram their fucking trolley up both me and my misses' ass. Just literally bowled us out the way just kept walking into us cause we were where they wanted to be. Another woman was standing right in front of the almond milk texting on her phone. I waited and waited but just stepped in and said excuse me where she says sorry but with a dirty look.
Are people that fucking important that they simply don't have an extra 15 seconds to spare. The world need to stop, slow the fuck down and not be so self absorbed and oblivious to what's going on around them.
There's so much here to unpack, I don't even know where to begin. :lol
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When I'm in the supermarket and people can't fucking wait 30 seconds for me to pick what I want and move on before coming and and nearly pushing me out of the cause they are in a hurry. Now, I don't waste time, I know what I want, but when people are looking at a product section that I come up to and need, I'll hang back, look at something else, go up the aisle grab something and come back til they are gone. I never stand making people feel uncomfortable that I'm waiting to grab something where they are or reach infront of them. Happened twice yesterday.
Grabbing some green beans, and let me tell you, I load up on the green beans, I love them. Grabbing my second handful and this fucknut comes right up behind, stands there with his little bag with his arms crossed just about up my ass. I could feel his eyes burning into the back of my head. I stood up, looked at him, stepped back and he scurried in like a fucking mouse and grabbed 3 beans and walked off. I then finished grabbing the rest of what I wanted. Couldn't fucking wait 15 seconds. Then looking at bacon I think in that aisle, then these people nearly ram their fucking trolley up both me and my misses' ass. Just literally bowled us out the way just kept walking into us cause we were where they wanted to be. Another woman was standing right in front of the almond milk texting on her phone. I waited and waited but just stepped in and said excuse me where she says sorry but with a dirty look.
Are people that fucking important that they simply don't have an extra 15 seconds to spare. The world need to stop, slow the fuck down and not be so self absorbed and oblivious to what's going on around them.
There's so much here to unpack, I don't even know where to begin. :lol
I was trying to contain myself too. :lol
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Maybe your asses looked like a corral?
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Maybe your asses looked like a corral?
I had the thought of spying on these pricks and seeing if they put it back or not afterwards to be honest.
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Wolfqueen:"Can we just go now?"
Kade: "Not yet, I have to know if they put their trolley away."
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There was so many assholes today at the grocery store that it's too much to type up.
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There was so many assholes today at the grocery store that it's too much to type up.
THANK YOU!
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There was so many assholes today at the grocery store that it's too much to type up.
Tell me about it!
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There was so many assholes today at the grocery store that it's too much to type up.
Tell me about it!
He already said it's too much to type up!
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There was so many assholes today at the grocery store that it's too much to type up.
Tell me about it!
He already said it's too much to type up!
No do tell! haha.
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Wait. Is this about shopping carts?! :lol
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Lol. No. It first started with turning into a lane where the was a parking spot 3 in. This dude walking when right down the middle of the isle and gave me a dirty look.
I wanted to fucking roll over him and drag that mother fucker into my parking spot.
How's that for a start?
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Lol. No. It first started with turning into a lane where the was a parking spot 3 in. This dude walking when right down the middle of the isle and gave me a dirty look.
Let me guess...did he have air buds in?
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Nope. Just an asshole who thinks pedestrians own all of the pavement. If I'm in his position, I walk a slight rounder route to allow the car to turn. He cut off 3 cars without turning his head only to give me the dirty look.
That asshole deserves a beating.
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Lol. No. It first started with turning into a lane where the was a parking spot 3 in. This dude walking when right down the middle of the isle and gave me a dirty look.
Let me guess...did he have air buds in?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Air_bud_poster.jpg)
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:lol
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Lol. No. It first started with turning into a lane where the was a parking spot 3 in. This dude walking when right down the middle of the isle and gave me a dirty look.
I wanted to fucking roll over him and drag that mother fucker into my parking spot.
How's that for a start?
Yes motherfucker!! That's what I'm talking about. :metal
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Nope. Just an asshole who thinks pedestrians own all of the pavement. If I'm in his position, I walk a slight rounder route to allow the car to turn. He cut off 3 cars without turning his head only to give me the dirty look.
That asshole deserves a beating.
I'd be happy to hold his arms for you. I f-ing hate that (except when it's raining; then I get it).
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I seriously would hit the brakes for him if he stopped and looked at me to get approval. I let anybody go when they pause.
This asshole expected me to stop. A car is a dangerous weapon. As a human you have to expect human error but not in this day and age.
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I seriously would hit the brakes for him if he stopped and looked at me to get approval. I let anybody go when they pause.
This asshole expected me to stop. A car is a dangerous weapon. As a human you have to expect human error but not in this day and age.
Indeed to all of this.
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The two football games. I expected better out of the Titans and the Pack (even though I called both games in my Pick'em game).
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Lol. No. It first started with turning into a lane where the was a parking spot 3 in. This dude walking when right down the middle of the isle and gave me a dirty look.
Let me guess...did he have air buds in?
And a Tapout shirt?
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Too cold to see the Tee lol.
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I'm surprised he even looked at you. Most of them just slowly walk in front of cars, taking their sweet-ass time.
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He gave me the death stare like I was at fault.
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Had a new guy start at work a week ago. Was his first day flying solo yesterday. It's the same role I do. Over teh last four years, I've effectively been doing both roles across multiple places to cover. We've had people come and go because they can't handle the workload and/or teh money and hours are not worth it, and it's true they aren't. Met this new guy twice and had a weird feeling. The amount of people I've seen come and go, my gut is pretty good. he is effectively looking after a couple of places I've been at for over 10 years. I've been moved to the largest venue over the years but as I said running all of them for a long time.
Right away, I get the feeling he's trying to shut me out. We really need to work together in the role to achieve the outcome but hasn't asked a single question on any procedures and policies or how things work. Comes across like he knows it all already. A got a staff member working where he's based to send his avaialbility as I'm doing rosters and he sends an email 'so and so sent their timesheet, where are the others as I need to approve for my facilities.' Hold on pal, calm the fuck down. Right away I was annoyed, as A. it wasn't a timesheet, and B. his facilities, fuck off mate, they aren't yours pal. When I put over 10 years of literally blood sweat and tears into a place, you don't walk in and call them your own. I also said I'd go and see him at a certain time to run him through everything and have a meeting to have a chat and start nutting out things, but when I went there, he had left and gone somewhere else.
He then went ahead and did timesheets and didn't CC me in the email. He sent me a stupid spreadsheet which we never do to show the hours for my primary venue that had approved that were on some of the timesheets. When I told him we CC each other he got the shits and wrote 'well I already sent you the spreadsheet but here they are.' WTF? Also in the email to payroll he writes that 'attached are timesheets for my staff.' Again, not your staff mate. I wrote him a specific breakdown of the procedure as I wasn't sure if the guy he replaced ran him through it before he left.
He then sends an email saying 'Hey, so and so says you are the man. What's the procedure with fixing etc. etc. in the system? I was so fucking mad yesterday. I don't know if he has power issues as trying to claim people and venues as his own really fucks me off. If he's trying to step on my toes, he's met his match. I know all that probably didn't make a lot of sense, but damn I'm annoyed.
I'm the easiest guy to work with, and don't expect him to know everything as we can take our time and start working through things, but the blatant disregard, I get the strong feeling he's either intimidated or just so far up his own ass he thinks he's better than everyone. It's not a control thing for me, but the lack of gratitude, respect and common courtesy is something I can't cop.
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So I'm trying get this straight...
You oversee multiple venues. How many?
Is this guy's job to co-manage them with you, or does he report to you? Who does he report to? Why was he hired? Was it to relieve you of your over-workload? Was he hired to oversee some of them?
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So I'm trying get this straight...
You oversee multiple venues. How many?
Is this guy's job to co-manage them with you, or does he report to you? Who does he report to? Why was he hired? Was it to relieve you of your over-workload? Was he hired to oversee some of them?
4 in total. Yes, his role is to co manage with me. We've had 2 supervisors in the past, 1 at the 1 largest venue then 1 for 3 very small ones close to each other. I don't want to get too specific here. Over the past 4 years, we've had multiple people in that role that come and go, but only stay a few months so about 3 of those years I've looked after all 4 myself. A lot of work. The role was filled because I started putting extra hours and overtime in. It looked bad for the bosses but I got to a point where I was sick of doing 20-25 hours a week for free.
So at the moment, he is based at the 3 smaller ones and I'm at the big 1 that makes all the money. I'm his work training buddy and the one that has to show him everything, so in a sense while he doesn't directly report to me, in the short term, he kind of does. He was hired because the mechanical side of the job he nailed the questions. The mechanical side, he should know more than me, but being more operation focused and working more with people management and customers, I'm not sure he's the right fit yet.
The aim is we have the same title, but not for specific venues, we just are based there if that makes sense. There's no 'me' or 'my', it's ours and we supposed to be a team. But I deserve respect to be acknowledged and listened to in the short term when he knows nothing of the role instead of going of half cocked. I'm trying to put myself in his shoes for a different perspective but it's hard. My immediate boss I work closely with was on an RDO yesterday so they will be getting a look at these emails and the events of yesterday.
I just don't understand power hungry people. They obviously have a lot of self esteem issues and want to power to make themselves feel better about themselves. That's my take anyway.
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That would grind my gears as well.
Speaking of which, I will throw this into the pile: people who take a day off work and do not turn on their "out of office" email. Seems like common sense to me, but I guess not.
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Speaking of which, I will throw this into the pile: people who take a day off work and do not turn on their "out of office" email. Seems like common sense to me, but I guess not.
That pisses you off? Geez.
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Speaking of which, I will throw this into the pile: people who take a day off work and do not turn on their "out of office" email. Seems like common sense to me, but I guess not.
That pisses you off? Geez.
I don't see that a lot where I work but have come in contact with people not turning them on. Can be a bit annoying if you need that person for something and you waste time waiting for them and they are not there.
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I figure you're waiting for the response either way. It's something I've never thought of, honestly.
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Or in the case of today where something I had set up for yesterday didn't get taken care of because the lady I deal with was out of the office and she had no one else CC'd on our communication this time (and she doesn't always reply when I send the email saying it is all set up, so I thought nothing of it when she never replied yesterday). Which means now I have to jump through a bunch of hoops re-scheduling something. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and this was probably more suited for the "what annoys you" thread, but this one was closer to the top. :P
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Or in the case of today where something I had set up for yesterday didn't get taken care of because the lady I deal with was out of the office and she had no one else CC'd on our communication this time (and she doesn't always reply when I send the email saying it is all set up, so I thought nothing of it when she never replied yesterday). Which means now I have to jump through a bunch of hoops re-scheduling something. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and this was probably more suited for the "what annoys you" thread, but this one was closer to the top. :P
In that case, it could be borderline legit for this thread haha.
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With my situation, haven't had any contact with this guy yet today. I'm kind of in the mindset of 'fuck him,' he doesn't want my help then he can crash and burn, but the problem is, things like rosters, dealing with stakeholders and bookings and other things are all done by me. He needs to be intergrated into all this and I don't fucking want to. He wants full control without my help and now I don't want to give him any. It's a mindfuck and a tricky situation.
My direct boss not very happy with his interaction so far however.
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Kade, just playing devils advocate, but do you think he's just trying to be self reliant?
Obviously not cool if there's things he MUST communicate with you for, but have those things been clearly communicated to him?
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Kade, just playing devils advocate, but do you think he's just trying to be self reliant?
Obviously not cool if there's things he MUST communicate with you for, but have those things been clearly communicated to him?
That's what I keep telling myself. I'm trying to run all these different perspectives though my head. Time will tell I guess. As far as I know, yes it's been communicated to him. I'm just going to take things day by day at the moment.
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I feel like his success will/should allow you to step back a little. I know you've talked about how hard and how much you work. Maybe the guy's a Class A dick. Stay positive.
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That would grind my gears as well.
Speaking of which, I will throw this into the pile: people who take a day off work and do not turn on their "out of office" email. Seems like common sense to me, but I guess not.
Don't mean this to be argumentative, but to present an alternative way of thinking about it... I haven't put an "out of office" notice for more than a handful of days over the past ten years; actually the only two I can think of are my wedding and when I was in the hospital. I have a phone on which I can check email. If there needs to be a response I can manage/coordinate it. If there is a bigger need for the moment I can delegate/handoff/reschedule. My job is essentially "consulting", and either it's a ten minute issue or multi-day. If I am out for more than a couple days, it backs up too much or goes to other people in my group, and I don't feel comfortable with that. Not that they are not very capable, or that I am so great, but because it's not fair to them.
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I feel like his success will/should allow you to step back a little. I know you've talked about how hard and how much you work. Maybe the guy's a Class A dick. Stay positive.
That is the plan, but it's hard letting go of stuff.
However, I got another stupid agressive email asking a question and adding ideas on a topic he obviously knows nothing about. I emailed him back saying, I'm coming to see you tomorrow and perhaps a weekly meeting is in order and I can share my knowledge and he can ask questions and as things come up we can work them out together. Putting it back on him really. Going to find out what his deal is and if he's a dick, set him straight and tell him how it is. My boss is happy with this and even may come in on the meeting.
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In setting him straight, I'd reinforce the fact that it's for the betterment of you both, not a 'power-trip' that *you* are on. Think about it if you're in his shoes.... your hired into a new job and expected to handle certain responsibilities. Then the fucker that's been around for 10+ years who knows how shit gets done and how it's always gotten done, keeps getting up in your shit.
I'm not suggesting this is what you are doing, or how things actually are unfolding - but it very well could be how he perceives things are unfolding. Focus on the outcomes that you (both) want, and offer constructive guidance/counsel on how he can best participate to achieve those outcomes.
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Have you actually met him yet? Is it possible you are just reading into his written words a bit too much? Face to face meetings definitely help for these things. That's how you'll really get to know him and understand who he is. I wonder if he got a different impression on the job and the reason why he says things like "his team" but if the guy is ultimately on a power trip and you ultimately want to relinquish some responsibilities, maybe it's best to help him accomplish both your goals.
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In setting him straight, I'd reinforce the fact that it's for the betterment of you both, not a 'power-trip' that *you* are on. Think about it if you're in his shoes.... your hired into a new job and expected to handle certain responsibilities. Then the fucker that's been around for 10+ years who knows how shit gets done and how it's always gotten done, keeps getting up in your shit.
I'm not suggesting this is what you are doing, or how things actually are unfolding - but it very well could be how he perceives things are unfolding. Focus on the outcomes that you (both) want, and offer constructive guidance/counsel on how he can best participate to achieve those outcomes.
I've thought that. And being true to myself, there probably is an element of me being territorial. I'm not on a power trip, I don't care if he takes over and takes some pressure off, however I believe strongly in collaboration and just general respect and courtesy. Just going ahead and doing what he thinks without consulting in turn makes more work and everything harder. Not to mention inconsistencies with information the staff are given and info on processes and procedures. But, if I was in his shoes and I come in and take over from somehow that's been there so long, I'd be open with them, ask them how things are done and how they like them done. If I feel the need to start to change some things, that would come with time. I wrote in my email yesterday that we have no issue if he wasnt to change some things to suit him, but knowing how they operate in the first hand and the reasons why they are how they are would probably be a good idea instead of just trying to piss on the gound and claim his territory for the sake of it.
Have you actually met him yet? Is it possible you are just reading into his written words a bit too much? Face to face meetings definitely help for these things. That's how you'll really get to know him and understand who he is. I wonder if he got a different impression on the job and the reason why he says things like "his team" but if the guy is ultimately on a power trip and you ultimately want to relinquish some responsibilities, maybe it's best to help him accomplish both your goals.
Yeah, his first day I spent an hour just having a general chat. It was me asking all the questions and inititiating the conversation. He had no questions for me, didn't ask about my history experience and nothing about the job. Also had a couple of backhanded comments on the way things were done on a couple of things and questioned why this and that were done as it wasn't right. Wasn't a great start.
I will see how this morning goes.
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Ah yea the guy sounds like he has a terrible attitude, terrible way to start a new job by talking down to people.
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Had a catch up this morning. He is very set in his ways. He wasn't agressive and listened to everything we had to say but could tell he was looking at me at times like he didn't like what I was saying. It was civil and hopefully a good outcome at the end. We recommended that learning the job first is important before wanting to change. We are all up for change but there's time, and we are in a busy period so now is not really the best time.
I told him, I'm not a controlling person but I'm here for support and we are to work together. I did tell him I've dedicated my life to this job for a long long time so while I'm happy for him to take charge once he's confortable, I'm still going to be involved.
Staff rang me about an issue on Saturday and he said he didn't understand why they didn't ring him. I looked at him and said, 'you've been here 4 days mate.' So by looking at past history he's been in a lot of job for short periods of time so I think building rapports and working and developing staff may be something he hasn't had a lot of dealing with. But to expect staff to ring him after 4 days as opposed to myself who is a piece of old antique furniture was strange to me. I don't think he really knows what he's in for, but I'm taking upon myself to take charge and guide hiim that way if things don't work out he can never say he didn't get trained or support. He was also asking staff about verious operations which is fine to a degree, but I said don't avoid me, I'm pretty easy going and will help you if you show respect and work with me. There's no 'me' or 'my staff' we are a team, and that's the way I work. He did say with some things he's very black and white and by the book. We will clash there, I'm hands on and deal with things in front of me and realise while yes guidelines are black and white, sometimes things just don't work like that. I like bending the rules and doing what I need to do at times to operate and get shit done when I need to. Unless it's totally unsafe or unreasonable, I'm not going to sacrifice service or my staff. He disagreed with that, but we'll see, maybe a balance will work out.
At least I tackled this head on within 2 days. happy I didn't stew and get more bitter. I take my job seriously but not enough now to make myself sick with stress and anger. it seems his communication and language is a bit slack and my boss said it comes across a little harsh and he needs to tone it down and format and write emails a bit more eloquently and formally. I thought email writing was quite a common sense thing in a corporation until at least you've got familiar relationships.
Time will tell now. One day at a time.
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Sounds good, Kade!
I thought email writing was quite a common sense thing in a corporation until at least you've got familiar relationships.
Yeah, you'd think so, but every business has their own culture. He just may be familiar with wording things a certain way.
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Sounds good, Kade!
I thought email writing was quite a common sense thing in a corporation until at least you've got familiar relationships.
Yeah, you'd think so, but every business has their own culture. He just may be familiar with wording things a certain way.
Yeah, seems I think where he's worked previously there was significantly less people so that may be why. The local government corporation I work there is distinct email etiquette. I'm pretty casual but this I understand. Things can get conscrewed any way you like with the way you write.
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Man, do I want to rant about our current work situation but I just came home from work (it's midnight here) and have to get up in 5 hours to go to work again tomorrow on Saturday and perhaps on Sunday too depending on how much I'll be able to do tomorrow. These hours are unpaid too but I'll be able to take these hours off later in February and the only reason I agreed to it is that my birthday is in February and it'd be nice to have some days off during that time.
The rant may still be coming tomorrow but for now I'm just livid that the girl who was supposed to help me with this work (only just employed, fresh from the university, but instantly given the position I had to work for about four years) spent the whole week doing jackshit after I gave her examples of what she needed to do and showed her through the process of doing it, and when she was leaving the office at fucking 4 PM she had the nerve to wish me a great weekend knowing full well I'm going to be at work for probably the whole weekend.
I'm off to get some sleep.
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That's annoying and I hate the short turnarounds for work at times, get some sleep
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Man, do I want to rant about our current work situation but I just came home from work (it's midnight here) and have to get up in 5 hours to go to work again tomorrow on Saturday and perhaps on Sunday too depending on how much I'll be able to do tomorrow. These hours are unpaid too but I'll be able to take these hours off later in February and the only reason I agreed to it is that my birthday is in February and it'd be nice to have some days off during that time.
The rant may still be coming tomorrow but for now I'm just livid that the girl who was supposed to help me with this work (only just employed, fresh from the university, but instantly given the position I had to work for about four years) spent the whole week doing jackshit after I gave her examples of what she needed to do and showed her through the process of doing it, and when she was leaving the office at fucking 4 PM she had the nerve to wish me a great weekend knowing full well I'm going to be at work for probably the whole weekend.
I'm off to get some sleep.
Let it flow Ruslan, let it flow.
It's a bitter taste when you work hard to get a position and then someone walks in based on them answering a few questions well in an interview and instantly gets paid the same as you. I know that's the way it is and it's out of one's control but man it can be a real kick in the nuts.
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The guy I was ranting about is being a real asshat. Had that meeting to try and get some common ground but it's clear he has power issues and just thinks his way is the only way. He just has that air of arrogance that he thinks he's better than everyone else, plain and simple. Also telling staff that he knows how to manage and run everything and he wants to run them alone and his way. Haha, fuck off mate, you met your match, I'd give him full control if he wasn't such a cunt and would learn the processes before wanting to think his way is better than anyone elses. He's the person that will just disagree with you for the sake of it.
It's also funny how he saying shit to staff. Does he not realise it's going to get back to me? I know what goes on everywhere and what people are saying. Interesting times ahead.
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Fuck that guy, excuse my language, but when you start a job even if you are in a position of power, you should enter with respect of those who are there and show them the respect that you would want from them. Arrogance doesn't help anything. Guy could be smart and have great ideas and ambition to do a great job but when you start off rubbing everyone the wrong way, it really doesn't help anything and puts you in a bad spot right from the get go.
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The guy I was ranting about is being a real asshat. Had that meeting to try and get some common ground but it's clear he has power issues and just thinks his way is the only way. He just has that air of arrogance that he thinks he's better than everyone else, plain and simple. Also telling staff that he knows how to manage and run everything and he wants to run them alone and his way. Haha, fuck off mate, you met your match, I'd give him full control if he wasn't such a cunt and would learn the processes before wanting to think his way is better than anyone elses. He's the person that will just disagree with you for the sake of it.
It's also funny how he saying shit to staff. Does he not realise it's going to get back to me? I know what goes on everywhere and what people are saying. Interesting times ahead.
I was a bit skeptical at first when I read your first rant but yeah, sounds like a real asshat. :lol
The girl from my rant is on a lower payroll than me but it's still a position where it's expected from you to know the things she was tasked to do.
It's 7.30 AM, just had a morning coffee and life's not that bad actually. No one else is in the office yet too, which is great, can put some metal on while I'm at it.
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Fuck that guy, excuse my language, but when you start a job even if you are in a position of power, you should enter with respect of those who are there and show them the respect that you would want from them. Arrogance doesn't help anything. Guy could be smart and have great ideas and ambition to do a great job but when you start off rubbing everyone the wrong way, it really doesn't help anything and puts you in a bad spot right from the get go.
Perfectly said mate, agree with every word.
The guy I was ranting about is being a real asshat. Had that meeting to try and get some common ground but it's clear he has power issues and just thinks his way is the only way. He just has that air of arrogance that he thinks he's better than everyone else, plain and simple. Also telling staff that he knows how to manage and run everything and he wants to run them alone and his way. Haha, fuck off mate, you met your match, I'd give him full control if he wasn't such a cunt and would learn the processes before wanting to think his way is better than anyone elses. He's the person that will just disagree with you for the sake of it.
It's also funny how he saying shit to staff. Does he not realise it's going to get back to me? I know what goes on everywhere and what people are saying. Interesting times ahead.
I was a bit skeptical at first when I read your first rant but yeah, sounds like a real asshat. :lol
The girl from my rant is on a lower payroll than me but it's still a position where it's expected from you to know the things she was tasked to do.
It's 7.30 AM, just had a morning coffee and life's not that bad actually. No one else is in the office yet too, which is great, can put some metal on while I'm at it.
Skeptical about one of my rants..........no, I don't believe that?! :o
Yeah, I keep looking at myself and trying to put myself in his shoes but my gut instincts are usually right. I wish they weren't. Gonna take this guy day by day. The way this guy has started is just the exact opposite of how I would be I believe so it's hard to see his side really. He has also come in and picked fault at just about everything. Questioning me why things are how they are. Thing is, most of those things are out of ny control and I work with what I have. He also sent an email to the staff saying a few strange things but said he wouldn't be talking with the staff about generic issues like sport and weather. He doesn't even want to get to know the staff yet wants them to work.
Unfortunately, it seems his people management is very poor. Can see him trying to be a tyrant and some staff already saying WTF is with this guy. He also which was weird, last Saturday there was an issue and I went in and resolved it. He said in the meeting that he wasn't communicated to that there was an issue and I went in. He also said the staff should have called him. I replied with, 'dude, you've been here 4 days.' Right there I learnt a lot about him.
For your situation, even people getting paid less still makes you work harder than you should, and that sucks. More and more people are in roles these days where they really don't know their craft. It's frustrating. Having the office to yourself is also one of the best things ever mate.
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I just found something new work related that had me somewhere between annoyed and pissed off. Our days go from midnight to 1159pm. I got my schedule for this week (one of my last 2), and I could swear she's fucking with me. Scheduled Monday night 11pm-730a. Off Tue. Then Wed morning 145a-945a. Then off Thur, Fri TBD and then a 5.5 hour shift on Saturday.
If you look at it... Tue really isn't a day off. Originally the tentative schedule had me on 11p-730a on Mon and Tue nights then off Thur and Fri. Now I either work on Fri and get my (almost) 40 hours (37.5), but only have one day off, or don't work Fri and get.. 29.5?
I wouldn't be peeved if it wasn't for the fact that it was changed last minute before publishing the schedule.
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Skeptical about one of my rants..........no, I don't believe that?! :o
My first impression from your post was that maybe guy just wasn't acquainted with how things are done in your company and was perhaps a bit over-enthusiastic at the beginning. Also your "I'm the easiest guy to work with, also here's my 500 words rant about that fucker, fuck off mate" didn't help the case :lol I'm fairly convinced he's an ass now though, the "why didn't they call me" when he was there for only four days sealed the deal.
Thankfully won't have to work tomorrow, did a shitload of stuff today and I think we're going to meet the deadline after all. By the way Kade, was just heading home now and saw the small Movenpick chocolate icecream tubs were on discount in a grocery store so I instantly thought about you and bought one. I'm about to try it I think, hopefully it's good!
edit: damn, it's indeed really good.
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Skeptical about one of my rants..........no, I don't believe that?! :o
My first impression from your post was that maybe guy just wasn't acquainted with how things are done in your company and was perhaps a bit over-enthusiastic at the beginning. Also your "I'm the easiest guy to work with, also here's my 500 words rant about that fucker, fuck off mate" didn't help the case :lol I'm fairly convinced he's an ass now though, the "why didn't they call me" when he was there for only four days sealed the deal.
Thankfully won't have to work tomorrow, did a shitload of stuff today and I think we're going to meet the deadline after all. By the way Kade, was just heading home now and saw the small Movenpick chocolate icecream tubs were on discount in a grocery store so I instantly thought about you and bought one. I'm about to try it I think, hopefully it's good!
edit: damn, it's indeed really good.
That line was being sarcastic. I just realised I put in the wrong smiley. I meant this one ;D
Of course everyone should be skeptical of my rants hahahaha. I really am easy to get along with, I just expect courtesy, respect and common sense from people. I guess I ask too nuch sometimes.
Enjoy your day off and yep amazing ice cream haha.
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I just found something new work related that had me somewhere between annoyed and pissed off. Our days go from midnight to 1159pm. I got my schedule for this week (one of my last 2), and I could swear she's fucking with me. Scheduled Monday night 11pm-730a. Off Tue. Then Wed morning 145a-945a. Then off Thur, Fri TBD and then a 5.5 hour shift on Saturday.
If you look at it... Tue really isn't a day off. Originally the tentative schedule had me on 11p-730a on Mon and Tue nights then off Thur and Fri. Now I either work on Fri and get my (almost) 40 hours (37.5), but only have one day off, or don't work Fri and get.. 29.5?
I wouldn't be peeved if it wasn't for the fact that it was changed last minute before publishing the schedule.
How did you know it was changed when it wasn't published? Things do happen to change rosters at the death. Happens to me most fortnights, mainly with staff doing sneaky late availability changes. Also, would you technically not call Monday off since starting at 11pm? Also, you get Sunday off? You also have from 9:45am Wednesday until Friday some time off? That's seems like a substantial break I would think. It's hard to follow these night hours crossing over days.
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Amazon
All of the hype for the live release of Ayreon's Electric Castle got me thinking about the anniversary edition that came out with the remixed audio. I had never bothered to look into it until recently. Went to Amazon and found the release from Music Theories and started reading the reviews. Lots of people praising the remix and what have you. I had a gift card so I ordered it.
It arrived today and I immediately started realizing something was wrong. Quickly realized this was just a repackage of the original. Normally, I would eat it and move on, but as I get older I am getting a little more ornery. I opened a return request and called out the entry at the site that based on all of the reviews under it, it appeared to be the remix. Figured it's worth a shot.
I have since discovered that the Earbook seems to be the only way to get a physical copy of the remix. Laser CD had it so I ordered it from them. Turned out I had $25 in credit there which cut the price in half.
I do admit that some of the blame is on me for not doing my normal due diligence. I've had a rough few weeks so I am not at the top of my game.
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I just found something new work related that had me somewhere between annoyed and pissed off. Our days go from midnight to 1159pm. I got my schedule for this week (one of my last 2), and I could swear she's fucking with me. Scheduled Monday night 11pm-730a. Off Tue. Then Wed morning 145a-945a. Then off Thur, Fri TBD and then a 5.5 hour shift on Saturday.
If you look at it... Tue really isn't a day off. Originally the tentative schedule had me on 11p-730a on Mon and Tue nights then off Thur and Fri. Now I either work on Fri and get my (almost) 40 hours (37.5), but only have one day off, or don't work Fri and get.. 29.5?
I wouldn't be peeved if it wasn't for the fact that it was changed last minute before publishing the schedule.
How did you know it was changed when it wasn't published? Things do happen to change rosters at the death. Happens to me most fortnights, mainly with staff doing sneaky late availability changes. Also, would you technically not call Monday off since starting at 11pm? Also, you get Sunday off? You also have from 9:45am Wednesday until Friday some time off? That's seems like a substantial break I would think. It's hard to follow these night hours crossing over days.
I'm one of the few people who can see the schedule when she's working on it before it's published. That's due to originally I was supposed to be able to help with the schedule, and make changes if shit went down (even doing it in her place if it came down to it).
Short version, I was tentatively scheduled for for something, and then she pulled me (a full time employee) off and put someone on who is a part time employee. It's an unwritten rule, you take from full time employees to give to part time. Especially when the part time is getting what they are normally scheduled. The schedule was sitting there like that for several days then changed literally a few hours before she finally published it.
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The guy I was ranting about is being a real asshat. Had that meeting to try and get some common ground but it's clear he has power issues and just thinks his way is the only way. He just has that air of arrogance that he thinks he's better than everyone else, plain and simple. Also telling staff that he knows how to manage and run everything and he wants to run them alone and his way. Haha, fuck off mate, you met your match, I'd give him full control if he wasn't such a cunt and would learn the processes before wanting to think his way is better than anyone elses. He's the person that will just disagree with you for the sake of it.
It's also funny how he saying shit to staff. Does he not realise it's going to get back to me? I know what goes on everywhere and what people are saying. Interesting times ahead.
That's too bad. But always stay cool, man.
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The guy I was ranting about is being a real asshat. Had that meeting to try and get some common ground but it's clear he has power issues and just thinks his way is the only way. He just has that air of arrogance that he thinks he's better than everyone else, plain and simple. Also telling staff that he knows how to manage and run everything and he wants to run them alone and his way. Haha, fuck off mate, you met your match, I'd give him full control if he wasn't such a cunt and would learn the processes before wanting to think his way is better than anyone elses. He's the person that will just disagree with you for the sake of it.
It's also funny how he saying shit to staff. Does he not realise it's going to get back to me? I know what goes on everywhere and what people are saying. Interesting times ahead.
That's too bad. But always stay cool, man.
Yeah man. Watching all my words and thinking before each interaction. There is so many ways that I could be portrayed as not helping and controlling but even today this guy is simply short on common sense and simply can't think outside the box.
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Man, I can't catch a break. Amazon, again, and this time it is really their fault.
I ordered the new album from Deathwihite, Grave Image. It arrived today. Well, what arrived was an empty shipping envelope. Had to do a chat because there is no way to handle a return on nothing. The chat person was great, but the album is now backordered 1 to 4 weeks.
My streak of luck continues.
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Man, I can't catch a break. Amazon, again, and this time it is really their fault.
I ordered the new album from Deathwihite, Grave Image. It arrived today. Well, what arrived was an empty shipping envelope. Had to do a chat because there is no way to handle a return on nothing. The chat person was great, but the album is now backordered 1 to 4 weeks.
My streak of luck continues.
Lol what the hell? They are deadset taking the piss out of you mate.
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Man, I can't catch a break. Amazon, again, and this time it is really their fault.
I ordered the new album from Deathwihite, Grave Image. It arrived today. Well, what arrived was an empty shipping envelope. Had to do a chat because there is no way to handle a return on nothing. The chat person was great, but the album is now backordered 1 to 4 weeks.
My streak of luck continues.
On the plus side that album is really good, so, good choice :)
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Man, I can't catch a break. Amazon, again, and this time it is really their fault.
I ordered the new album from Deathwihite, Grave Image. It arrived today. Well, what arrived was an empty shipping envelope. Had to do a chat because there is no way to handle a return on nothing. The chat person was great, but the album is now backordered 1 to 4 weeks.
My streak of luck continues.
On the plus side that album is really good, so, good choice :)
I'm sure it is and I was looking forward to it today. I have a lot of running around to do after work and I planned on listening to it then. I do have an Auto-rip for it. I might have to force myself to download it, but I prefer to do my initial listening via CD before going compressed.
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I need some advice before I blow my fucking top. I recently worked at some mom'n'pop restaurant. It was only for a week and was four short shifts totaling what I believe is about 18 hours. Server wage is as low as $2.13 an hour in Louisiana so that would make my hourly come to about $38 before taxes. Since the first two shifts were training where I couldn't receive tips, I think I might legally have to be paid $7.25 an hour for those 9 hours since that's national minimum wage which I think I'd be entitled to since server wage is usually only legal when tips are also present. If so, then my pre-tax hourly wages should've been a little over $80.
On my first shift where I got tips, I had two credit card tips which would've been held for the check since the only money we got to walk with on a daily basis was cash tips. Those were collectively about $22. My fourth and final shift involved the entire wait staff splitting the tips earned from two private parties which had booked the entire restaurant for that evening. I'd heard that one of them had a prearranged total of $6000. So even if they'd only tipped 15% that would've been $900 to split among the 9 or 10 servers/bartenders working that night before even counting the other party.
Not even counting the other party and using $2.13/hour as my pay rate for all 18 hours worked, my pre-tax earnings should've been at least $38 ($2.13 x 18 hours) + $90 = $128. Even taxing that at 25% (more than I've been taxed at any table waiting job), I should still have at least $95.
If we use the more realistic pay rate of $7.25/hour for the training period and assume the other party was at least $2000 (very likely more than that, in reality) and still use the meager 15% gratuity figure, we get $84 (hourly wages) + $90 (party #1) + $30 (party #2) = $204. Taxing that at 25%, we're left with $153.
Wanna know how much my direct deposit was for all of this? $32. Thirty two dollars. While their little shithole restaurant does appear to be run incompetently enough that I could entertain the notion that they just fucked up when doing payroll, I also have enough experience working for shady-ass, fly by night mom'n'pops to know that they're probably just stealing from me because I only worked there for a week and they think they can get away with it due to it being difficult for me to prove what they did.
So, my reason for making this post is to ask y'all how I should handle this? Do I need to record a phone call with them? Do I do something else? I had to move back in with my parents who live over an hour away from where that restaurant is so confronting them in person would be very inconvenient and I'm probably gonna be living here at least six months so the in-person approach just isn't practical.
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Did you get any paperwork documenting the hours, the rate and any withholdings? Did your shifts span one or two pay periods?
Not licensed in Louisiana, and am not giving you legal advice, but find out whether Louisiana is a one-party or two-party consent state before you tape anyone. Not sure where that gets you anyway, but still. The harsh reality is, unless it's a real mistake that they're willing to correct, you're probably going to spend $100 to get $10. There's always Yelp, though (not joking, and not mocking you).
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Send a courteous email asking for a breakdown of where the money is. You avoid wiretapping charges and you have a paper trail.
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Thanks Stad and Bart :tup I can try to request a paper check, I suppose. It was just one pay period so there's no chance that I got confused and am looking for money that just hasn't generated a check yet (I assume that's what you were attempting to troubleshoot with that question.)
Re: one- or two-party
https://recordinglaw.com/louisiana-recording-laws/
Louisiana recording law stipulates that it is a one party consent state. In Louisiana it is a criminal offense to use any device to record communications whether it’s wire, oral or electronic without the consent of at least one person taking part in the communication.
This means that in Louisiana, you are legally allowed to record a conversation you take part in.
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Also, here's the rest of what that page said just in case y'all didn't have time to click on it:
La. Rev. Stat. § 15:1303 – You are able to record any conversations that you are party to in Louisiana unless a criminal or tortious purpose exists. Breaking this law, either by recording or disclosing the contents of a private communication without consent can carry a fine of between 2 and 10 years.
La. Rev. Stat. § 15:1312 – If you are a victim of recording crime then you may claim civil damages. These damages are $100 for each day of violation up to a total of $1000 as well as any litigation costs, attorney fees, and punitive damages.
La. Rev. Stat. § 14:283 – If any type of hidden camera is used for ‘lewd or lascivious purpose’ then it is considered illegal.
Brown v. Brown, 877 So.2d 1228 (La. Ct. App. 2004) – In this case it was upheld that a wifes secretly recorded phone calls of her husband on her own telephone were not illegally intercepted, regardless of the intention for the use of these recordings, as she was party to the conversation.
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Coming home to see your Power is out. Grrrr.
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Right at the start of your weekend too. Sorry man. I feel like this is at least the third time I've seen you mention a power outage in your area in the last 6 months. How often do y'all lose power out there?
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Coming home to see your Power is out. Grrrr.
That's the worst. I hope it comes back on for you soon. And I hope you at least have a source of heat.
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Went out for dinner and while we were having dinner the Power came back on.
Ice storm here in N.H.
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We lost power at 4:00. Went out for dinner. Still off :censored
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Keep going out and eating more dinners. It has to work eventually, right?
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We lost power at 4:00. Went out for dinner. Still off :censored
Mother :censored
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Got sucked into a conversation in a Facebook group where a guy was claiming that 8-9 year old kids are responsible when they get molested because they're old enough to know right from wrong. I wanted to jump through my phone and punch him in the :censored face. Ignorant asshole. When I called him out on his assholery, he said "you'll understand when you're older" :censored >:(
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Got sucked into a conversation in a Facebook group where a guy was claiming that 8-9 year old kids are responsible when they get molested because they're old enough to know right from wrong. I wanted to jump through my phone and punch him in the :censored face. Ignorant asshole. When I called him out on his assholery, he said "you'll understand when you're older" :censored >:(
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Got sucked into a conversation in a Facebook group where a guy was claiming that 8-9 year old kids are responsible when they get molested because they're old enough to know right from wrong. I wanted to jump through my phone and punch him in the :censored face. Ignorant asshole. When I called him out on his assholery, he said "you'll understand when you're older" :censored >:(
Lol wut? I'd try and fucking report him or something if it were possible. Cunt needs an absolute beatdown.
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Got sucked into a conversation in a Facebook group where a guy was claiming that 8-9 year old kids are responsible when they get molested because they're old enough to know right from wrong. I wanted to jump through my phone and punch him in the :censored face. Ignorant asshole. When I called him out on his assholery, he said "you'll understand when you're older" :censored >:(
Lol wut? I'd try and fucking report him or something if it were possible. Cunt needs an absolute beatdown.
I reported the post. The admin got back to me and said "what he was saying is not helpful to the discussion" and sent me a couple links to things supporting my side. It's more than not helpful. It's ignorant shits like him that normalize the abuse that is causing lifelong issues for a huge chunk of our society.
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I'm definitely not someone who will jump to thinking the worst of someone, but that's just extreme callousness to the Nth degree that comes off as extremely... suspicious. The very best scenario is that it's someone who wants to believe in a just world so bad he keeps making up reasons why even kids are fully responsible for everything bad that may happen with them. Reminds you of those dads who are like "I would be around for my kid more but I just don't vibe with their personality, you know, it just happens that you don't wanna hang out with someone". Sure, but not your own freakin' kid, you monstrous moron!
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Got sucked into a conversation in a Facebook group where a guy was claiming that 8-9 year old kids are responsible when they get molested because they're old enough to know right from wrong. I wanted to jump through my phone and punch him in the :censored face. Ignorant asshole. When I called him out on his assholery, he said "you'll understand when you're older" :censored >:(
Oh that’s good to know. I’ll go ahead and tell my nine year old self it was my fault my older cousin sexually abused me. For the longest time I thought it was because he was a cunning pervert who groomed me for a year. I’ll tell my other cousin and brother that also since they knew right from wrong as well and let him abuse them also.
What a freaking idiot.
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Those kind of people and their beliefs are extremely scary to me. How many think like that?
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Those kind of people and their beliefs are extremely scary to me. How many think like that?
2,874.
Plus the entirety of Saudi Arabia.
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And that's scary. I understand a teenager that hits puberty to understand but not an 8 or 9 years olds.
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Um, just me, but did I misunderstand the convo? When I read it the first time, and he said "you'll understand when you're older", that sent a chill down my spine. Was that a confession (or rather, a lame attempt at absolution)?
What does you being older have to do with the cognitive abilities of an 8 year old?
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What does you being older have to do with the cognitive abilities of an 8 year old?
You’ll understand when you’re older.
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:lol
Yea, that's fucked up. I'd stay so far away from facebook arguments, but seeing something like that could make me have to say me piece on that shit hole of a platform (that I do use...).
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Um, just me, but did I misunderstand the convo? When I read it the first time, and he said "you'll understand when you're older", that sent a chill down my spine. Was that a confession (or rather, a lame attempt at absolution)?
What does you being older have to do with the cognitive abilities of an 8 year old?
I have no idea what that comment meant. I actually deleted the post he was responding to because I just needed it to end so I can't go back and reread it. He went on about if 8 year olds can be aware enough of their sexuality to be transgender, they can know that being molested in wrong. Honestly the guy gave me the creeps. I think there's a very good chance he molested young kids at some point in his life and is making excuses. Grown women don't speak up when being sexually assaulted out of fear, shame, coercion, manipulation, etc, and this guy expects kids to be able to? I'm still really pissed off about it.
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Any chance the guy was just trolling?
Instead of reporting him to Facebook, how about letting the police know about the post?
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Any chance the guy was just trolling?
Instead of reporting him to Facebook, how about letting the police know about the post?
There's nothing illegal about it.
It would be similar (legally) if he said an adult girl who gets raped "asked for it" by dressing up like a slut. If that were illegal, like half the population would have been arrested in the last 50 years.
It's a pretty disgusting opinion, but not one the police have any part in.
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Well, no I know there's nothing illegal about it, but what if there's been some child sexual assaults in the guy's area? There must be some investigators in the guy's area that might be interested.
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Well, no I know there's nothing illegal about it, but what if there's been some child sexual assaults in the guy's area? There must be some investigators in the guy's area that might be interested.
Honestly, they'd probably see this as not enough reason to spend the resources investigating. He just said that kids deserve it. If he said black people deserve to be racially profiled, I doubt they'd look into incidents of racial assaults near him.
Like I said, it's reprehensible (trying not to use the D word, as to not invoke the wrath of Stadler) but legally the dude's allowed to say that kind of stuff since it hinted at no future threat toward kids.
I'm a mandated reporter, so I have to be very weary of statements about kids from clients. If a client said that to me, I'd puke a little in my mouth, but I'd have no grounds to do anything about it.
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Could just be some fucker talking shit for the sake of it to stir up some shit too for their own sick amusement.
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Could just be some fucker talking shit for the sake of it to stir up some shit too for their own sick amusement.
There's way too much of that. I'll be honest, I love a good troll moment, but at the same time, child abuse is not a topic to troll on. You've got to be pretty sick in the head to just be trolling in this area.
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Could just be some fucker talking shit for the sake of it to stir up some shit too for their own sick amusement.
There's way too much of that. I'll be honest, I love a good troll moment, but at the same time, child abuse is not a topic to troll on. You've got to be pretty sick in the head to just be trolling in this area.
Just putting it out there. I'm not on social media so I don't really knows what goes on. But there are some sick bastards out there.
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Could just be some fucker talking shit for the sake of it to stir up some shit too for their own sick amusement.
There's way too much of that. I'll be honest, I love a good troll moment, but at the same time, child abuse is not a topic to troll on. You've got to be pretty sick in the head to just be trolling in this area.
Just putting it out there. I'm not on social media so I don't really knows what goes on. But there are some sick bastards out there.
Oh yea for sure, as crazy as it seems, I can see some sicko doing this so you aren't wrong.... just that would take a certain type of speshul person to really go to that level.
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Joey Logano. P****.
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WPMO: I just chipped a tooth. The same tooth I've chipped twice over the last 5 years. Because I can't stop biting my fingernails (nervous habit). I'm never going to learn to stop. I'm so mad at myself.
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WPMO: I just chipped a tooth. The same tooth I've chipped twice over the last 5 years. Because I can't stop biting my fingernails (nervous habit). I'm never going to learn to stop. I'm so mad at myself.
Sucks dude.
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WPMO: I just chipped a tooth. The same tooth I've chipped twice over the last 5 years. Because I can't stop biting my fingernails (nervous habit). I'm never going to learn to stop. I'm so mad at myself.
I bet your fingernails are laughing their asses off at your tooth though.
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WPMO: I just chipped a tooth. The same tooth I've chipped twice over the last 5 years. Because I can't stop biting my fingernails (nervous habit). I'm never going to learn to stop. I'm so mad at myself.
I bet your fingernails are laughing their asses off at your tooth though.
:lol
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Shut up, Tim. :lol
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Shut up, Tim. :lol
Is it a front tooth?
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WPMO: I just chipped a tooth. The same tooth I've chipped twice over the last 5 years. Because I can't stop biting my fingernails (nervous habit). I'm never going to learn to stop. I'm so mad at myself.
Go get some behavioral modification therapy. It's not pleasant, but it's surprisingly easy to get over that stuff.
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Shut up, Tim. :lol
Is it a front tooth?
Yeah, upper tooth.
WPMO: I just chipped a tooth. The same tooth I've chipped twice over the last 5 years. Because I can't stop biting my fingernails (nervous habit). I'm never going to learn to stop. I'm so mad at myself.
Go get some behavioral modification therapy. It's not pleasant, but it's surprisingly easy to get over that stuff.
Appreciate the tip. I'll probably stick to self-discipline though. Just how I am. One day I will learn.
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Shut up, Tim. :lol
Is it a front tooth?
Yeah, upper tooth.
WPMO: I just chipped a tooth. The same tooth I've chipped twice over the last 5 years. Because I can't stop biting my fingernails (nervous habit). I'm never going to learn to stop. I'm so mad at myself.
Go get some behavioral modification therapy. It's not pleasant, but it's surprisingly easy to get over that stuff.
Appreciate the tip. I'll probably stick to self-discipline though. Just how I am. One day I will learn.
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Like I said, one day, I will learn. Not comfortable with therapy. I just do things alone
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Like I said, one day, I will learn. Not comfortable with therapy. I just do things alone
Love you too. :heart
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Damn, no good.
Like I said, one day, I will learn. Not comfortable with therapy. I just do things alone
Yeah fuck therapy. Just make a habit of keeping them super short all the time or something mate but I know that doesn't really work either for chronic finger biters.
My brother use to bite his nails and legit had like half a nail on each finger, they were so worn down yet he'd keep chewing. Would have to dig so deep but just couldn't help himself.
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That's how I am. If I'm stressed or anxious about something, which tends to be most of the time unfortunately, I just bite my nails. I have to keep them short to play piano. But then if I bite them too much, they hurt like hell especially if I'm sanding stuff at work. I have lots of nervous habits but nailbiting has always been the worst. Should really use that fidget spinner of mine more often. That thing actually does help.
I'm sure therapy is useful. I'm just not comfortable with that stuff, that's all (and I don't particularly feel like dropping the money on it, but that's a matter of financial prioritizing more than anything). It's not a bad or large chip thankfully, but it's enough to feel a bit off. At least it'll wear down a bit over the next few months til my next appointment
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Just to be clear, there are lots of types of therapy.
You'd benefit from basic habit reversal training. You won't have to talk about your feelings or whatever. It's just behavioral training. Manly stuff.
Is going to the dentist cheaper?
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I mean, I'm more a fan of simply catching myself in the act and telling myself to stop. That's how I've always tackled bad habits, I've done it in the past with a few OCD ticks, I've just been extremely lazy with nailbiting because it's such a common thing. But avoiding 'therapy' as it were (unless you count what I prefer doing as some form of therapy, idk) has nothing to do with masculinity... it's just a me thing, a personality thing. I'm stubborn and want to do it my way... some form of therapy might be faster, easier, more efficient, but it's not a rational thing, I'd just rather do it my way.
Dentist is stupid cheap with dental insurance
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I mean, I'm more a fan of simply catching myself in the act and telling myself to stop. That's how I've always tackled bad habits, I've done it in the past with a few OCD ticks, I've just been extremely lazy with nailbiting because it's such a common thing. But avoiding 'therapy' as it were (unless you count what I prefer doing as some form of therapy, idk) has nothing to do with masculinity... it's just a me thing, a personality thing. I'm stubborn and want to do it my way... some form of therapy might be faster, easier, more efficient, but it's not a rational thing, I'd just rather do it my way.
Hmmmm....tell me more about your mother.
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My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.
My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
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Gee thanks for that. Now the rest of us need therapy.
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My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.
My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
I should warn you that I just tricked you into therapy....and you'll have to be billed....
....ONE BILLION DOLLARS
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:rollin
I bet TAC never saw that movie.
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Oh, is that a movie reference? :lol
No. No, I didn't see it, whatever it is. :lol
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Oh, is that a movie reference? :lol
Yeah baby!
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Oh, is that a movie reference? :lol
No. No, I didn't see it, whatever it is. :lol
Sigh. Here, let me help you. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTJj4wbmAhk) :) Look! Carrie Fisher! You know that name, right?
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Carrie Fisher reminds me of Princess Leia from Star Wars.
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Carrie Fisher reminds me of Princess Leia from Star Wars.
Who?
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My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.
My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
:rollin
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I just realized I didn't copy the entire quote and missed one of my favorite lines: "My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery." Darn. :lol
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My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.
My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
Well, they are. They just sit there, looking stupid, in a bowl, getting fat. Fuckers. I'm with you 100%.
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Oh, is that a movie reference? :lol
No. No, I didn't see it, whatever it is. :lol
That made me laugh out loud. :) "Whatever it is."
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Carrie Fisher reminds me of Princess Leia from Star Wars.
You're on fire. :)
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I love my spouse and all but holy shit balls, Batman. If I have to clean up after him more than I do my kids then I'm going to go all 'Snapped' any minute now. I mean, I do prepare the meals. It could be done. :P
Do people become more slovenly as they age? Am I now the Felix to his Oscar?
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The wife snaps at me when she's feeling the pressure of taking on a lot at home. I was in a bit of depression and she snapped. I told her I was sorry but I felt immobile at that moment. She felt better and then I snapped out of it.
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Well, yesterday, but my 12-year-old step son came home from school yesterday and told us that some kid called him a "See You Next Tuesday" in the stairwell. I haven't felt that mixed a set of emotions in a long time. Part of me wanted to laugh, part of me got angry (my son is on the spectrum and so takes that stuff very seriously in his way; he was really upset and predictably, didn't want to go to school today), and part of me was heartbroken that at 12 we're at that level. He's supposed to be building models and playing basketball and watching funny dog videos and... his favorite books are still Dog-man and the like. Sorry to hi-jack the thread...
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Well, yesterday, but my 12-year-old step son came home from school yesterday and told us that some kid called him a "See You Next Tuesday" in the stairwell. I haven't felt that mixed a set of emotions in a long time. Part of me wanted to laugh, part of me got angry (my son is on the spectrum and so takes that stuff very seriously in his way; he was really upset and predictably, didn't want to go to school today), and part of me was heartbroken that at 12 we're at that level. He's supposed to be building models and playing basketball and watching funny dog videos and... his favorite books are still Dog-man and the like. Sorry to hi-jack the thread...
I would be pissed. I was bullied a lot as a kid and have absolutely zero tolerance for bullies especially for kids like your stepson. No kids myself, but I remember going out on more than one occasion to face 7-8 neighborhood kids who would gang up and pick on my little brother and sister way back in the day. That stuff got me livid. I hope your stepson doesn't have to deal with those assholes on a regular basis...
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I had to look that up. I had never heard that before.
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I had to look that up. I had never heard that before.
Took me a sec to realize it was C U Next Tuesday.
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I had to look that up. I had never heard that before.
Took me a sec to realize it was C U Next Tuesday.
I totally didn't pick that up :lol
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:rollin :rollin
I thought Stads Jr. got challenged to a fight in the stairwell.
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So my place of work got broken into last night. Nothing stolen just kids by the looks ransacked the joint and went in looking to cause as much damage as possible. Broken windows, folders and files everywhere, computers chucked around, plus equipment like coffee machines, plus stock in the line of confectionery and drinks literally thrown everywhere. I've never seen anything quite like it. Just pure destruction for no reason.
Got the alarm call at 11:30pm and went straight away. Security saw 4 youths but they got away. Even the K-9 unit were called in but couldn't get them. I was there til 2am with security and police, and then back in there at 4am to try and at least section areas to operate (public facility). Have to wait for forensics now before we can start cleaning and assessing the damage. I don't even know where we would start in relation to cleaning. Obviously didn't get back to sleep when I got home after 2am and went to bed that night at 10pm. 1.5 hours sleep and now I'll be there at least until 5pm today, maybe longer.
Today's diet: coffee. Lots of coffee, plus some sugar free energy drinks to spice it up.
Fuck the youth of today. Absolute scum bucket little cunts.
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I'm sad that there are no King's X fans in the other thread Stadler posted that in. :(
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Wow wtf Wolf, make that new guy clean it up
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Wow wtf Wolf, make that new guy clean it up
:rollin You cheered me up a little bit Cram.
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Wow, sounds utterly miserable Kade. You'll sleep pretty well next time you hit the sack for sure. Only thing I'll disagree with is that kids generations ago were doing the same stupid disrespectful destructive shit, definitely ain't isolated to these small pricks of today. Hope the little heels get the bad karma they're brewing up.
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Wow, sounds utterly miserable Kade. You'll sleep pretty well next time you hit the sack for sure. Only thing I'll disagree with is that kids generations ago were doing the same stupid disrespectful destructive shit, definitely ain't isolated to these small pricks of today. Hope the little heels get the bad karma they're brewing up.
That's a fair point I guess. I think there's more over here anyway than the older days but maybe that's just me getting older and seeing things differently. I'm not going to get into the youth of today rant again. I always got up to a bit of mischief but just the mindless destruction of jaw dropping. Yeah, will sleep well but might even be hard to sleep worrying about the phone ringing again. They normally don't come back *touchwood* but in the past have had a few repeat offenses. Never to this magnitude though.
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I have no words. Reprogram the alarm system to play Insomnium when there’s a break in. That should scare any sane people off.
Or Kylie Minogue.
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Well, yesterday, but my 12-year-old step son came home from school yesterday and told us that some kid called him a "See You Next Tuesday" in the stairwell. I haven't felt that mixed a set of emotions in a long time. Part of me wanted to laugh, part of me got angry (my son is on the spectrum and so takes that stuff very seriously in his way; he was really upset and predictably, didn't want to go to school today), and part of me was heartbroken that at 12 we're at that level. He's supposed to be building models and playing basketball and watching funny dog videos and... his favorite books are still Dog-man and the like. Sorry to hi-jack the thread...
Bill, I can totally empathize. We have identified bullying as part of my son's IEP his whole school life. Kids are assholes.
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So my place of work got broken into last night. Nothing stolen just kids by the looks ransacked the joint and went in looking to cause as much damage as possible. Broken windows, folders and files everywhere, computers chucked around, plus equipment like coffee machines, plus stock in the line of confectionery and drinks literally thrown everywhere. I've never seen anything quite like it. Just pure destruction for no reason.
That's fucked.
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Well, yesterday, but my 12-year-old step son came home from school yesterday and told us that some kid called him a "See You Next Tuesday" in the stairwell. I haven't felt that mixed a set of emotions in a long time. Part of me wanted to laugh, part of me got angry (my son is on the spectrum and so takes that stuff very seriously in his way; he was really upset and predictably, didn't want to go to school today), and part of me was heartbroken that at 12 we're at that level. He's supposed to be building models and playing basketball and watching funny dog videos and... his favorite books are still Dog-man and the like. Sorry to hi-jack the thread...
Bill, I can totally empathize. We have identified bullying as part of my son's IEP his whole school life. Kids are assholes.
I hate to sound like "that guy", but really, they ARE assholes. Some of the stuff is really mean, and it has no point. There was always shit going around when I was in school, but there always seemed to be SOME basis for it, no matter how tenuous it was. "You passed a note to my girl, I'ma gonna kick your ass!". "She's not your girl, bring it on!" Still stupid but some remote connection to reality. Some of what my son is going through... it almost seems like SPORT.
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Actually thinking about it, the kids that have been around my son have actually been really great to him. Even though he goes to school in a different town, we still see kids that he used to go to school with in our town at my other son's games and stuff. They've always been great. And even in the school he's in now, the kids have been nice to him.
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The guy who caused me the most grief as a kid, on a regular basis, for years - after high school something changed, and he started being cool to me. Now I occasionally see him and invite him over to my place. Took a great many years but we're totally cool with each other now. It's just weird how people change, and how as a kid you're a completely different person, and maybe those other (asshole) kids have stuff going on at home that makes them lash out when they're at school. Who knows... still no excuse. I really hope those kids' eyes are opened eventually and they see the error of their ways, for everyone's sake.
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Actually thinking about it, the kids that have been around my son have actually been really great to him. Even though he goes to school in a different town, we still see kids that he used to go to school with in our town at my other son's games and stuff. They've always been great. And even in the school he's in now, the kids have been nice to him.
Oh, they're not all bad; there's a girl who has taken a shining - in a friendly way, apparently she's told him she's gay - to my son, and we have come to value her presence in his day. He looks forward to seeing her each day and it's been a positive thing for him (I'm struggling with words here; he's not helpless by any stretch, but he's got a troubled relationship with his Dad, and so "confidence" and "security" are issues for him, as they are for a lot of kids). It's really only a handful of kids - three at this point - that are creating havoc, but it just seems so... random.
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The guy who caused me the most grief as a kid, on a regular basis, for years - after high school something changed, and he started being cool to me. Now I occasionally see him and invite him over to my place. Took a great many years but we're totally cool with each other now. It's just weird how people change, and how as a kid you're a completely different person, and maybe those other (asshole) kids have stuff going on at home that makes them lash out when they're at school. Who knows... still no excuse. I really hope those kids' eyes are opened eventually and they see the error of their ways, for everyone's sake.
I've actually really learned a lot in watching these kids at these ages; I always sort of kept my own counsel at school for various reasons, but it's shocking to me the level at which seemingly unrelated things tend to "bubble up" when you least expect it. At my sons school, they have "meal cards", and we fund them on line for his snack and lunch at school. You can almost tell exactly how my son is feeling by checking the log for that day and seeing what he ordered for food. He's doing very well now with acting out, but in his previous school, he went through a period of having incidents at school, and the school would track them by day and time, and the pattern of "incident" versus when he was with Dad was as stark as a neon sign. Apparently - and I don't know this for provable fact - one of the kids bullying here is showing similar patterns.
Agreed, it's still no excuse, but it's interesting (and sad, in it's own way, if I think about it too much) to see the connections.
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The guy who caused me the most grief as a kid, on a regular basis, for years - after high school something changed, and he started being cool to me. Now I occasionally see him and invite him over to my place. Took a great many years but we're totally cool with each other now. It's just weird how people change, and how as a kid you're a completely different person, and maybe those other (asshole) kids have stuff going on at home that makes them lash out when they're at school. Who knows... still no excuse. I really hope those kids' eyes are opened eventually and they see the error of their ways, for everyone's sake.
I've actually really learned a lot in watching these kids at these ages; I always sort of kept my own counsel at school for various reasons, but it's shocking to me the level at which seemingly unrelated things tend to "bubble up" when you least expect it. At my sons school, they have "meal cards", and we fund them on line for his snack and lunch at school. You can almost tell exactly how my son is feeling by checking the log for that day and seeing what he ordered for food. He's doing very well now with acting out, but in his previous school, he went through a period of having incidents at school, and the school would track them by day and time, and the pattern of "incident" versus when he was with Dad was as stark as a neon sign. Apparently - and I don't know this for provable fact - one of the kids bullying here is showing similar patterns.
Agreed, it's still no excuse, but it's interesting (and sad, in it's own way, if I think about it too much) to see the connections.
That's heartbreaking. I can really relate to that, the only difference is back in my day my parents couldn't track that sort of thing. You're a good dad.
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I appreciate that very much; I don't look at it that way - I tend to look at it more like, "if I (and his mom, of course) don't bring everything I have to bear to advocate for this kid, who's going to?" - but it means a lot to me to hear that. I know what I sound like in that other thread, but this is the same thing to me. I'm tending my garden here.
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That is interesting that you can correlate things like that with data due to technology. I can't imagine what it's like to be a kid today, the world is such a different place and sadly not a lot of parents are like Stadler it seems.
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My nephew who is 14 now was on the receiving end of a bit of bullying in his early school years, but his dad (my brother) had him taking karate lessons early at a young age and basically told him, "Don't start anything with any kid, but if they do with you, defend yourself and make it count." And my nephew did several times. He knocked the crap out of a couple kids in separate incidents and no one has messed with him since and he is a happy 14-year old who has a good circle of friends now. You hate to have to do that, but bullies will keep at it unless you hit back and make them back off, and I have no doubt that if he had just sat back and taken it, he'd still be on the receiving end of it to this day.
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That's a good Mr. Miyagi lesson to teach his kid. Those types of skills are very powerful. Even more so when used only for defense. :tup
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Great story!
I would have bet that the bullies and their parents would have gotten the school board to come after you and your kid, cuz that's what happens in the real world usually, bullies get away with everything and it's always 'blame the victim'. Did they come after you guys or did everyone just get over it?
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Great story!
I would have bet that the bullies and their parents would have gotten the school board to come after you and your kid, cuz that's what happens in the real world usually, bullies get away with everything and it's always 'blame the victim'. Did they come after you guys or did everyone just get over it?
That happened to my oldest Daughter when she was 8. Two boys were picking on her at recess and then they went and accused her of wrong doing to the teachers. The teachers believed the boys. And I know it wasn't my daughter because she is on the Autistic spectrum and doesn't know how to defend herself and easily gets confused.
I got angry at the teacher for believing the boys and pulled my daughter out of that school.
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Great story!
I would have bet that the bullies and their parents would have gotten the school board to come after you and your kid, cuz that's what happens in the real world usually, bullies get away with everything and it's always 'blame the victim'. Did they come after you guys or did everyone just get over it?
Not sure if this is directed at me regarding the story about my brother and nephew, but I know that the principal told my brother several times that they didn't want kids fighting, and my brother told them in no uncertain terms that his son is not going to let other kids pick on him and get away with it.
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Company stock price is going straight into the toilet. >:( >:(
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Company stock price is going straight into the toilet. >:( >:(
Everybody's stock price is going in the toilet.
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Company stock price is going straight into the toilet. >:( >:(
Everybody's stock price is going in the toilet.
Yup... I (regrettably) looked at my portfolio today. :tdwn :censored :censored
2 years of gains wiped out in 3 weeks. And I still think the bottom is more than a few days/weeks away.
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Company stock price is going straight into the toilet. >:( >:(
Everybody's stock price is going in the toilet.
Yup... I (regrettably) looked at my portfolio today. :tdwn :censored :censored
2 years of gains wiped out in 3 weeks. And I still think the bottom is more than a few days/weeks away.
Who knows where the bottom will be. We could be looking at a 40%+ drop like many recessions, or things could bounce back as governments release stimulus packages and the new cases of corona virus level off like they have in China. All I know is that I'm playing the long game and am not going to panic sell anything.
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Everyone's long game just got longer though. I was looking at an 8-10 year horizon for retirement. That's now 10-12. Hoping it doesn't go any further. It's not panic selling to pull the ripcord, and minimize losses.
The Dow is set to open 1100 points in the red.
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
Fair point. And the market is off to a ripping start. Circuit breaker triggered in just 10 minutes. The article I'm reading is suggesting the potential of a 20% decline today alone.
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
Fair point. And the market is off to a ripping start. Circuit breaker triggered in just 10 minutes. The article I'm reading is suggesting the potential of a 20% decline today alone.
Good god people. Stop panicking!
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
Fair point. And the market is off to a ripping start. Circuit breaker triggered in just 10 minutes. The article I'm reading is suggesting the potential of a 20% decline today alone.
I still have 25 years before retirement, so I'm not too worried about that, but what I am a little worried about is falling into a depression rather than a recession. I'm not worried about loosing my job or anything like that, I just worry about what it will do to society as a whole.
But I do plan on taking advantage of these market lows by buying a bunch at these discounted prices.
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
Fair point. And the market is off to a ripping start. Circuit breaker triggered in just 10 minutes. The article I'm reading is suggesting the potential of a 20% decline today alone.
Good god people. Stop panicking!
I'm not entirely sure the panic isn't justified. When an entire country is closed except for grocery stores and pharmacies, we're in some scary times. Travel / hospitality industry is going to take a shit-kiccking - I'm willing to bet many cruise companies go tits up. Energy... specifically Oil&Gas are in for a world of hurt. Nobody is driving or flying anywhere. Manufacturing supply chains are already hurting. Current Government spending plans are going to halt so that "stimulus" funding can be put together. Food Services... who wants to go out for dinner in this environment?
This is bad. Real bad.
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Sure the level of the downturn can be debated, but I’m not sure why people are surprised that the markets are taking a hit. Curious what would justify a big sell-off if this scenario shouldn’t?
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
Fair point. And the market is off to a ripping start. Circuit breaker triggered in just 10 minutes. The article I'm reading is suggesting the potential of a 20% decline today alone.
Good god people. Stop panicking!
I'm not entirely sure the panic isn't justified. When an entire country is closed except for grocery stores and pharmacies, we're in some scary times. Travel / hospitality industry is going to take a shit-kiccking - I'm willing to bet many cruise companies go tits up. Energy... specifically Oil&Gas are in for a world of hurt. Nobody is driving or flying anywhere. Manufacturing supply chains are already hurting. Current Government spending plans are going to halt so that "stimulus" funding can be put together. Food Services... who wants to go out for dinner in this environment?
This is bad. Real bad.
This kind of fearful mentality is what makes it seem so bad. The panic is exponentially worse than the actual virus is (which, before some numpty gets upset, I'm not diminishing, it is still a concern). If your fear is economic fallout, which I think it is from the way your post reads, I'm with ya. The POTUS's address to the USA last night did absolutely nothing to calm concerns. Man sounded sick/nervous as hell himself
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
Fair point. And the market is off to a ripping start. Circuit breaker triggered in just 10 minutes. The article I'm reading is suggesting the potential of a 20% decline today alone.
Good god people. Stop panicking!
I'm not entirely sure the panic isn't justified. When an entire country is closed except for grocery stores and pharmacies, we're in some scary times. Travel / hospitality industry is going to take a shit-kiccking - I'm willing to bet many cruise companies go tits up. Energy... specifically Oil&Gas are in for a world of hurt. Nobody is driving or flying anywhere. Manufacturing supply chains are already hurting. Current Government spending plans are going to halt so that "stimulus" funding can be put together. Food Services... who wants to go out for dinner in this environment?
This is bad. Real bad.
This kind of fearful mentality is what makes it seem so bad. The panic is exponentially worse than the actual virus is (which, before some numpty gets upset, I'm not diminishing, it is still a concern). If your fear is economic fallout, which I think it is from the way your post reads, I'm with ya. The POTUS's address to the USA last night did absolutely nothing to calm concerns. Man sounded sick/nervous as hell himself
You're absolutely right, but that's the way the markets work... they operate on what the future might hold, not what on the past or current. And with projections that it's possible for 30%-70% of populations to contract this ... that's 100M-240M Americans catching this. That's why there is panic.
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Everyone's long game just got longer though.
Not necessarily. Bear markets and recessions are normal and expected, so if you weren't planning on one, that's on you. The S&P averages roughly 10% gains a year including recessions and bear markets. I'm assuming 6% gains in my financial plans (after inflation), so I'm already assuming lower than average gains. This is just a bump in the road. It'll all be fine in the end.
Fair point. And the market is off to a ripping start. Circuit breaker triggered in just 10 minutes. The article I'm reading is suggesting the potential of a 20% decline today alone.
Good god people. Stop panicking!
I'm not entirely sure the panic isn't justified. When an entire country is closed except for grocery stores and pharmacies, we're in some scary times. Travel / hospitality industry is going to take a shit-kiccking - I'm willing to bet many cruise companies go tits up. Energy... specifically Oil&Gas are in for a world of hurt. Nobody is driving or flying anywhere. Manufacturing supply chains are already hurting. Current Government spending plans are going to halt so that "stimulus" funding can be put together. Food Services... who wants to go out for dinner in this environment?
This is bad. Real bad.
This kind of fearful mentality is what makes it seem so bad. The panic is exponentially worse than the actual virus is (which, before some numpty gets upset, I'm not diminishing, it is still a concern). If your fear is economic fallout, which I think it is from the way your post reads, I'm with ya. The POTUS's address to the USA last night did absolutely nothing to calm concerns. Man sounded sick/nervous as hell himself
You're absolutely right, but that's the way the markets work... they operate on what the future might hold, not what on the past or current. And with projections that it's possible for 30%-70% of populations to contract this ... that's 100M-240M Americans catching this. That's why there is panic.
Correct. That is exactly how the markets operate. Not only do they work from economic fundamentals like earnings, supply chain disruptions, etc....they also factor in the emotions (fear/panic, irrational exuberance, etc), and tend to be pretty short sighted. Nothing new at all.
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This kind of fearful mentality is what makes it seem so bad. The panic is exponentially worse than the actual virus is (which, before some numpty gets upset, I'm not diminishing, it is still a concern). If your fear is economic fallout, which I think it is from the way your post reads, I'm with ya. The POTUS's address to the USA last night did absolutely nothing to calm concerns. Man sounded sick/nervous as hell himself
You're absolutely right, but that's the way the markets work... they operate on what the future might hold, not what on the past or current. And with projections that it's possible for 30%-70% of populations to contract this ... that's 100M-240M Americans catching this. That's why there is panic.
Yeah, I know, that's why I said the panic is the worst, because of what it's doing to the world. The virus going to spread, and we'll get better once we get through the worst, but I sure hope the markets can recover.
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Company stock price is going straight into the toilet. >:( >:(
Everybody's stock price is going in the toilet.
Yup... I (regrettably) looked at my portfolio today. :tdwn :censored :censored
2 years of gains wiped out in 3 weeks. And I still think the bottom is more than a few days/weeks away.
Who knows where the bottom will be. We could be looking at a 40%+ drop like many recessions, or things could bounce back as governments release stimulus packages and the new cases of corona virus level off like they have in China. All I know is that I'm playing the long game and am not going to panic sell anything.
My company stock has fallen 55% and my YTD value loss is over $50k. The only good part is, my portfolio is being re-balanced and I'm buying low. How quick it bounces back (if at all) is a whole other story. My early retirement plan could turn into a "work until I die" plan. Now wouldn't that be a pisser?
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Company stock price is going straight into the toilet. >:( >:(
Everybody's stock price is going in the toilet.
Yup... I (regrettably) looked at my portfolio today. :tdwn :censored :censored
2 years of gains wiped out in 3 weeks. And I still think the bottom is more than a few days/weeks away.
Who knows where the bottom will be. We could be looking at a 40%+ drop like many recessions, or things could bounce back as governments release stimulus packages and the new cases of corona virus level off like they have in China. All I know is that I'm playing the long game and am not going to panic sell anything.
My company stock has fallen 55% and my YTD value loss is over $50k. The only good part is, my portfolio is being re-balanced and I'm buying low. How quick it bounces back (if at all) is a whole other story. My early retirement plan could turn into a "work until I die" plan. Now wouldn't that be a pisser?
Do you work in the Oil/Gas industry, or travel/tourism?
The customer I support has Royal Caribbean as a significant customer. I checked their stock out of curiosity - $113 on Feb 12; $30 today.
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^Largest commercial and defense aerospace company in the world with employees worldwide.
Oh and BTW, another thing to be pissed off about...grocery stores. :\ Forget about the stray carts in the parking lot. That's nothing compared to what we have to deal with now. JFC!!
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^Largest commercial and defense aerospace company in the world with employees worldwide.
Oh and BTW, another thing to be pissed off about...grocery stores. :\ Forget about the stray carts in the parking lot. That's nothing compared to what we have to deal with now. JFC!!
No kidding! My wife and I went to Costco last night to just get some regular stuff. They were out of everything we planned to get. So instead we just made a game out of it and went down the isles and pretended that all their products were "doomsday" related. So we kept asking each other if we needed any "doomsday (insert item)" Like doomsday couches, doomsday printer paper, doomsday tvs and so on. It turned out disapointing shoping trip into something fun that made us laugh.
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I hope you were able to get stocked up on doomsday bacon. ;D
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I bought a sweet doomsday copy of the Elton John boxset on line yesterday. I was pumped.
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I was watching some Doomsday Porn. :lol
But yeah it turns out here actually is something like Doomsday Bunker Porn.
Should have known.... there’s porn for everything. :|
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I hope you were able to get stocked up on doomsday bacon. ;D
OMFG!! Can you imagine the apocalyptic ramifications of having no bacon? :omg: The government would have to implement martial law. :lol
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I went to The Home Depot today to pick up a Bidet and they were out. :getoffmylawn: >:(
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I went to The Home Depot today to pick up a Bidet and they were out. :getoffmylawn: >:(
How is it that you don't already have one?
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I went to The Home Depot today to pick up a Bidet and they were out. :getoffmylawn: >:(
That's funny AF! We actually picked a kit up from home depot yesterday! I hadn't even thought of it till I saw a meme on FB yesterday morning. :lol Potential TP issue resolved!
I bet you can find one on Amazon ;)
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How is it that you don't already have one?
Spent all my money on liquor and car care products.
That's funny AF! We actually picked a kit up from home depot yesterday! I hadn't even thought of it till I saw a meme on FB yesterday morning. :lol Potential TP issue resolved!
:lol
I was actually joking, in my usual stupid way, attempting to make light of the Great-Toilet-Paper-Rush of 2020. I think it's brilliant that you actually did it! :)
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the Great-Toilet-Paper-Rush of 2020.
Holy shit I've seen this up close. WTF??
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Holy shit I've seen this up close. WTF??
There's your answer.
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How is it that you don't already have one?
Spent all my money on liquor and car care products.
That's funny AF! We actually picked a kit up from home depot yesterday! I hadn't even thought of it till I saw a meme on FB yesterday morning. :lol Potential TP issue resolved!
:lol
I was actually joking, in my usual stupid way, attempting to make light of the Great-Toilet-Paper-Rush of 2020. I think it's brilliant that you actually did it! :)
It actually made sense to my simple mind when I saw the meme... :lol
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I hope you were able to get stocked up on doomsday bacon. ;D
OMFG!! Can you imagine the apocalyptic ramifications of having no bacon? :omg: The government would have to implement martial law. :lol
I think we’ve got a two month supply at the moment. My wife said, “if we’re quarantined, I don’t see why we need to treat it like a bunker.” She also grabbed wine, chocolate, steaks, and snacks. ;D
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Because of this thread, I went out and grabbed some bacon for the wife, and fried it while listening to my version of Elton John's best of. :D
Lysol wipes, hand sanitizers, and disposable gloves were the only items with a low count at our store.
They were, however, out of bidets!
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Lysol wipes, hand sanitizers, and disposable gloves were the only items with a low count at our store.
While crisis can bring out the best in humanity, it can also bring out the worst.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/03/13/amazon-blocks-account-of-couple-who-bought-up-lysol-wipes-at-costco-and-resold-them-online-for-profit.html
(https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2020/03/13/amazon-blocks-account-of-couple-who-bought-up-lysol-wipes-at-costco-and-resold-them-online-for-profit/costco.jpg)
"the couple had spent about $70,000 on Lysol wipes and liquid cleaners over the past few weeks and made more than $100,000 in sales to individuals and businesses."
Sadly, they've already (short-term) profited, but the backlash against them is going to far outweigh that short-term profit.
I'm starting to hear that Costco is enacting a 1-limit restriction. Hopefully it's an official store policy - though, it'd be hard to police people from multiple trips.
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Lysol wipes, hand sanitizers, and disposable gloves were the only items with a low count at our store.
While crisis can bring out the best in humanity, it can also bring out the worst.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/03/13/amazon-blocks-account-of-couple-who-bought-up-lysol-wipes-at-costco-and-resold-them-online-for-profit.html
(https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2020/03/13/amazon-blocks-account-of-couple-who-bought-up-lysol-wipes-at-costco-and-resold-them-online-for-profit/costco.jpg)
"the couple had spent about $70,000 on Lysol wipes and liquid cleaners over the past few weeks and made more than $100,000 in sales to individuals and businesses."
Sadly, they've already (short-term) profited, but the backlash against them is going to far outweigh that short-term profit.
I'm starting to hear that Costco is enacting a 1-limit restriction. Hopefully it's an official store policy - though, it'd be hard to police people from multiple trips.
I don't feel so bad now for grabbing 20 chicken thighs and 4 dozen eggs. :lol Yeah, people who try to profit off of this are about the lowest of the low.
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And another ass-clown:
He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html)
"Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them."
<his justification??>
"“Just because it cost me $2 in the store doesn’t mean it’s not going to cost me $16 to get it to your door.”
Go rot in hell. It would've cost 99% these consumers the same $2 in-store if it wasn't for actions by people like you, you douche-waffle. The only reason people are looking to purchase online is because of behaviour like this.
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Are people everywhere still coughing into the open air instead of into their shoulder 99.9% of the time or am I just spoiled living in the neanderthalic cesspool that is the south?
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And another ass-clown:
He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html)
"Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them."
<his justification??>
"“Just because it cost me $2 in the store doesn’t mean it’s not going to cost me $16 to get it to your door.”
Go rot in hell. It would've cost 99% these consumers the same $2 in-store if it wasn't for actions by people like you, you douche-waffle. The only reason people are looking to purchase online is because of behaviour like this.
I hate people like this so much
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And another ass-clown:
He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html)
"Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them."
<his justification??>
"“Just because it cost me $2 in the store doesn’t mean it’s not going to cost me $16 to get it to your door.”
Go rot in hell. It would've cost 99% these consumers the same $2 in-store if it wasn't for actions by people like you, you douche-waffle. The only reason people are looking to purchase online is because of behaviour like this.
I hate people like this so much
(https://meme-generator.com/wp-content/uploads/mememe/2019/10/mememe_d71df7b71abaeb2b8c82693a2440b5a4-1.jpg)
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J just read that he was price gouging and Anazon cracked down on him so he can't sell them.
Justice is served.
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Update on that guy - https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/41897345/colvin-brothers-donate-stockpiled-sanitizer-while-tns-attorney-general-facilitates
They are donating them to a local church now, but the AG of TN is investigating them anyway.
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I work in a hospital (in Canada), the biggest in my region, and I'm always moving around the entire campus, which means I'm right in there with everyone.
I have a compromised immune system which puts me at a higher risk to catch this, or anything really, so I'm trying to be safe and not risk exposure. I don't have it and I'm not presumptive or "self-quarantining", I'm totally healthy, but in a higher risk demographic.
I figured, "hey, it's Canada, our health care is awesome here", and that they'd do special paid leave and not use regular sick time (which I'm out of at the moment) but they haven't actually said anything about it officially. So, assuming we're cool, I took this week off and found out today that they are NOT doing special paid leave and it's just coded as regular sick time.
FUCK OFF.
Look at the shit that's happening around the world. Even CHURCHES are shutting down, and they're going to pull this shit? Now I've lost 5 days of income and have to choose between money or my health and possibly my life.
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PetFish, that is horrible news! I'm so sorry. I have a lot of respect for you working in the healthcare business right now. You are making a great sacrifice. I hope you don't mind, but I'll pray that you stay safe.
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It's so nice to see a fellow Canuck who thinks our healthcare is "awesome". Here in Ontario, it's a joke. God help the people that get sick. Best estimate is that ICU beds are already at 100% capacity, so where are all the additionally sick people going to go.
Saw a post of a YT'r I follow and love for his brutal honesty, but he just came off like an ass-clown getting pissed off about bars closing and potential for curfew.
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I work in a hospital (in Canada), the biggest in my region, and I'm always moving around the entire campus, which means I'm right in there with everyone.
I have a compromised immune system which puts me at a higher risk to catch this, or anything really, so I'm trying to be safe and not risk exposure. I don't have it and I'm not presumptive or "self-quarantining", I'm totally healthy, but in a higher risk demographic.
I figured, "hey, it's Canada, our health care is awesome here", and that they'd do special paid leave and not use regular sick time (which I'm out of at the moment) but they haven't actually said anything about it officially. So, assuming we're cool, I took this week off and found out today that they are NOT doing special paid leave and it's just coded as regular sick time.
FUCK OFF.
Look at the shit that's happening around the world. Even CHURCHES are shutting down, and they're going to pull this shit? Now I've lost 5 days of income and have to choose between money or my health and possibly my life.
Why would you assume this if you don't have the virus and aren't self quantining? Would you not speak to your employer first and about it before just assuming that you're 'cool'? I mean, how are they to know what you are thinking? If one of my staff just took a week off expecting the employer to cover it as exempt virus leave, I wouldn't be happy.
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@ Northern Lion: Thanks!
@ jingle.boy: Ontario is definitely the hardest hit and some jackasses still don't "get it" and are mad about bars closing. WTF.
@ wolfking:
Sorry, I left out the part where my Doctor said I shouldn't be at work and should be self-quarantining even though I'm not actually sick, and knowing the industry I work in (health care) and what's going on I figured it was a no-brainer. I gambled on the trust that they would do the right thing. I lost.
If it was a private business, like Staples or Wal-mart, I definitely wouldn't count on them to give a shit, but my public employer and union should definitely be caring since they absolutely know how serious this pandemic is. I could catch it and carry it around for 5 days infecting more people before I show symptoms.
I'm also responsible for an off-site elderly care facility which includes a hospice, and in my area (Vancouver), those places have been the hardest hit by this and have the most deaths. So here I am with a compromised immune system running into a lot of potential problem areas every day.
I kind of hope I catch it now so I can say "I told you so". Churches, bars, events, sports, etc are all shutting down. This thing is no joke.
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@ Northern Lion: Thanks!
@ jingle.boy: Ontario is definitely the hardest hit and some jackasses still don't "get it" and are mad about bars closing. WTF.
@ wolfking:
Sorry, I left out the part where my Doctor said I shouldn't be at work and should be self-quarantining even though I'm not actually sick, and knowing the industry I work in (health care) and what's going on I figured it was a no-brainer. I gambled on the trust that they would do the right thing. I lost.
If it was a private business, like Staples or Wal-mart, I definitely wouldn't count on them to give a shit, but my public employer and union should definitely be caring since they absolutely know how serious this pandemic is. I could catch it and carry it around for 5 days infecting more people before I show symptoms.
I'm also responsible for an off-site elderly care facility which includes a hospice, and in my area (Vancouver), those places have been the hardest hit by this and have the most deaths. So here I am with a compromised immune system running into a lot of potential problem areas every day.
I kind of hope I catch it now so I can say "I told you so". Churches, bars, events, sports, etc are all shutting down. This thing is no joke.
Haha, ah yes, that is a vital piece of info then. Hard lesson mate but anything in the workplace, cover your tracks. Cross all the t's and dot all the i's, no matter where you work. It's unfortunate these days that you can't assume that your workplace has your back. You could also try and provide a medical certificate with the doctors recommendation and talk to your bosses and it maybe an option to get those days back? I don't know, might be worth a shot.
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I work in a hospital (in Canada), the biggest in my region, and I'm always moving around the entire campus, which means I'm right in there with everyone.
I have a compromised immune system which puts me at a higher risk to catch this, or anything really, so I'm trying to be safe and not risk exposure. I don't have it and I'm not presumptive or "self-quarantining", I'm totally healthy, but in a higher risk demographic.
I figured, "hey, it's Canada, our health care is awesome here", and that they'd do special paid leave and not use regular sick time (which I'm out of at the moment) but they haven't actually said anything about it officially. So, assuming we're cool, I took this week off and found out today that they are NOT doing special paid leave and it's just coded as regular sick time.
FUCK OFF.
Look at the shit that's happening around the world. Even CHURCHES are shutting down, and they're going to pull this shit? Now I've lost 5 days of income and have to choose between money or my health and possibly my life.
No offense, dude, but "ASSUME" is the big problem here. You've got to communicate. I get being on the front line - my cousin is an ER nurse and has been exposed, though she is not presumptively positive (yet) - but you can't just do your thing in a vacuum, hope it works out, then be pissed when it doesn't.
Changing subjects:
And while I'm a capitalist more or less, I think you have to have a defensible point of view; that a-hole with the hand sanitizer, he had the temerity to say he was "doing a public service", resolving "inefficiencies" in the system. WTF? Who is more qualified at this point to reallocate resources of that kind; Costco/Wal-mart, or this schmoleon with a U-Haul?
Changing subjects again:
I do not understand the "hoard" mentality. I can't get to Imgur (new work firewall) but I was at both a Big Y and a Stop And Shop this weekend; both stores had an abundance of fruit and vegetables. Meat was... eh, good not great selection, milk was... eh, good not great... No paper towels/toilet paper (the entire aisle was a barren shelf) and no instant Macaroni and Cheese. That's not a typo. But it dawned on me as I was driving home... don't you need milk and/or butter for Mac and cheese? So if the theory is, "no electricity/running water in a lock down", how you gonna make that mac? And if you don't have electricity and/or running water, what are you going to do with the waste toilet paper/paper towels? Aren't you manufacturing your own little pile of waste that's only going to make sanitary conditions worse?
All this belongs here, because honestly, I'm pissed off at the lack of forethought and the lack of "rise to the occasion" that we as a society are showing. We should be better than this.
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Saw a post of a YT'r I follow and love for his brutal honesty, but he just came off like an ass-clown getting pissed off about bars closing and potential for curfew.
That fitness guy you responded to on Facebook? His post was about as ignorant as people can be in this type of situation. He mentioned something about 'freedom', which isn't going to be worth a thing if people start dying everywhere because hospitals can't treat everybody. Attitudes like his (and frankly, I'm seeing more of his kind pop up lately) are definitely pissing me off.
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Changing subjects again:
I do not understand the "hoard" mentality. I can't get to Imgur (new work firewall) but I was at both a Big Y and a Stop And Shop this weekend; both stores had an abundance of fruit and vegetables. Meat was... eh, good not great selection, milk was... eh, good not great... No paper towels/toilet paper (the entire aisle was a barren shelf) and no instant Macaroni and Cheese. That's not a typo. But it dawned on me as I was driving home... don't you need milk and/or butter for Mac and cheese? So if the theory is, "no electricity/running water in a lock down", how you gonna make that mac? And if you don't have electricity and/or running water, what are you going to do with the waste toilet paper/paper towels? Aren't you manufacturing your own little pile of waste that's only going to make sanitary conditions worse?
All this belongs here, because honestly, I'm pissed off at the lack of forethought and the lack of "rise to the occasion" that we as a society are showing. We should be better than this.
As I was driving to work today, and seeing everything you wrote in person, I couldn't help but think that this is the our "dress rehearsal" for the real end of the world. I was thinking that this "plague" (for lack of a better term) is our wakeup call to get our shit together.
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As I was driving to work today, and seeing everything you wrote in person, I couldn't help but think that this is the our "dress rehearsal" for the real end of the world. I was thinking that this "plague" (for lack of a better term) is our wakeup call to get our shit together.
I read a quote on my sister's FB page today that kind of applies to what you're saying...
"Young children are going to remember how their family felt during this Coronavirus panic, more than anything specific about the virus. Our kids are watching and learning about how to respond to stress and uncertainty. Let's wire our kids with resilience, not panic"
That really resonated with me, and reminded me how I should be behaving through this crisis.
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Stay Frosty :)
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@ wolfking: My tracks are pretty well covered, which is why I made the assumption in the first place. The good news is that they're finally going to do something for people like me and will have something in place this week... or not. There's still a chance they could do nothing.
@ Stadler: I agree with the "ass of u and me". I'm just too trusting. It took me a long time to finally realize in the private sector (retail) that my value is basically shit. I finally told that career to fuck off and went back to school and found the private sector (health care) was just the opposite and amazing so I figured with all this going on it would be a no-brainer. I guess we'll see what's next.
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Now that I'm working from home, I don't get out often enough to get pissed off. :lol
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Spring Breaker's in Florida. Like, seriously!?!?!?
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Spring Breaker's in Florida. Like, seriously!?!?!?
Not to be outdone, 3500 people in france gathered dressed as Smurfs to break a world record.
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Spring Breaker's in Florida. Like, seriously!?!?!?
Not to be outdone, 3500 people in france gathered dressed as Smurfs to break a world record.
Yeah, someone linked that video in the Corona thread a couple weeks back. Hell it might have been only a week ago. The NBA "suspending" the season feels like it was a lifetime ago - not 9 days.
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Why is it that the people lowest on the totem pole at work are always the first to complain about tiny things? Yet I step in when I shouldn't have to, pick up other's slack, and help out wherever necessary without saying a word of complaint to anyone. Heaven forbid you had to empty a slightly fuller garbage can than normal. Better get your manager involved. Good grief...
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Why is it that the people lowest on the totem pole at work are always the first to complain about tiny things? Yet I step in when I shouldn't have to, pick up other's slack, and help out wherever necessary without saying a word of complaint to anyone. Heaven forbid you had to empty a slightly fuller garbage can than normal. Better get your manager involved. Good grief...
We live in the "not my job" world these days.
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Spring Breaker's in Florida. Like, seriously!?!?!?
After growing up and living in Florida for 90% of my life this is the least surprising thing.
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Why is it that the people lowest on the totem pole at work are always the first to complain about tiny things? Yet I step in when I shouldn't have to, pick up other's slack, and help out wherever necessary without saying a word of complaint to anyone. Heaven forbid you had to empty a slightly fuller garbage can than normal. Better get your manager involved. Good grief...
I've written about this in the past and usually get a fair number of eye-rolls, but there is truth in this. It's a give and take, of course (the manager has to make sure that it's not skewed too far in the OTHER direction) but for me, "not my job" basically means "I don't want my job anymore" and in my experience that's usually the outcome, at some point. I lost my job in the Great Recession of 2008, and in the turmoil following I had an epiphany that I've maintained ever since: I want to be the guy in my organization that my boss goes to when he has no idea what needs to be done, or when there is no clear path forward. Basically, the guy that does the jobs after someone else says "not my job".
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Why is it that the people lowest on the totem pole at work are always the first to complain about tiny things? Yet I step in when I shouldn't have to, pick up other's slack, and help out wherever necessary without saying a word of complaint to anyone. Heaven forbid you had to empty a slightly fuller garbage can than normal. Better get your manager involved. Good grief...
In my line of work you only have two reply options towards your director/conductor/producer: "Yes" and "Yessir".
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Spring Breaker's in Florida. Like, seriously!?!?!?
Their governor has been acting like the mayor of Amity Island throughout this. Same with the store owners. Oh, beaches will be closed the 23rd. Yet another 'close the barn doors after the cows get out' response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk
This ain't the 80s, dudes!
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I think it was in the 'happy' thread the other day that I referenced reaching out to my father and brother - who I've been estranged from.... haven't spoken a single word to my brother in 3 years; no communication with my father for 2.5, and even before that it was very strained with them each off and on for well over a decade. So, in light of world events, what better time to extend an olive branch?
I sent them each a text message expressing my hope that they and their family were all safe and healthy, and coping thru everything as best as possible in these times and "Please know that we are thinking of you".
Actual responses:
Father - "So nice to hear from you. We are doing well. Being very careful with minimal to no outside contact. Hope you and the family are well also. Thanks for reaching out"
Brother - "Oh... a blast from the past. Thanks for reaching out. We're all ok. Hope you guys are all doing well. Keep safe!"
That's it.
Guess they didn't really want to grab that olive branch. At least they replied ?
Just reinforces that blood =/= family. Several of you around here are closer to what I consider family than these two.
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Glad they replied Chad, maybe it’s just a ‘baby steps’ scenario. The responses sounded cordial so that’s good. I’d take it as a good first contact and then maybe reach out again in a bit. See how that goes from there? Or you might be surprise by one of them reaching out to you here coming up?
No matter what.....I wish you well and hope you can mend those relationships or at least cultivate them to a point where it’s not toxic. Good luck bro
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I think it was in the 'happy' thread the other day that I referenced reaching out to my father and brother - who I've been estranged from.... haven't spoken a single word to my brother in 3 years; no communication with my father for 2.5, and even before that it was very strained with them each off and on for well over a decade. So, in light of world events, what better time to extend an olive branch?
I sent them each a text message expressing my hope that they and their family were all safe and healthy, and coping thru everything as best as possible in these times and "Please know that we are thinking of you".
Actual responses:
Father - "So nice to hear from you. We are doing well. Being very careful with minimal to no outside contact. Hope you and the family are well also. Thanks for reaching out"
Brother - "Oh... a blast from the past. Thanks for reaching out. We're all ok. Hope you guys are all doing well. Keep safe!"
That's it.
Guess they didn't really want to grab that olive branch. At least they replied ?
Just reinforces that blood =/= family. Several of you around here are closer to what I consider family than these two.
Man, that sucks.
I have a similar situation with my uncle (who is like a brother). After a falling out and shaky make up years ago, Any correspondence now is pretty rare and always very quick/short :-\
And my Father... well, he doesn't care if I'm alive or dead and never has, so there's that :sad:
But I totally agree, blood =/= family
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I think it was in the 'happy' thread the other day that I referenced reaching out to my father and brother - who I've been estranged from.... haven't spoken a single word to my brother in 3 years; no communication with my father for 2.5, and even before that it was very strained with them each off and on for well over a decade. So, in light of world events, what better time to extend an olive branch?
I sent them each a text message expressing my hope that they and their family were all safe and healthy, and coping thru everything as best as possible in these times and "Please know that we are thinking of you".
Actual responses:
Father - "So nice to hear from you. We are doing well. Being very careful with minimal to no outside contact. Hope you and the family are well also. Thanks for reaching out"
Brother - "Oh... a blast from the past. Thanks for reaching out. We're all ok. Hope you guys are all doing well. Keep safe!"
That's it.
Guess they didn't really want to grab that olive branch. At least they replied ?
Just reinforces that blood =/= family. Several of you around here are closer to what I consider family than these two.
I got your back my brother.
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I think it was in the 'happy' thread the other day that I referenced reaching out to my father and brother - who I've been estranged from.... haven't spoken a single word to my brother in 3 years; no communication with my father for 2.5, and even before that it was very strained with them each off and on for well over a decade. So, in light of world events, what better time to extend an olive branch?
I sent them each a text message expressing my hope that they and their family were all safe and healthy, and coping thru everything as best as possible in these times and "Please know that we are thinking of you".
Actual responses:
Father - "So nice to hear from you. We are doing well. Being very careful with minimal to no outside contact. Hope you and the family are well also. Thanks for reaching out"
Brother - "Oh... a blast from the past. Thanks for reaching out. We're all ok. Hope you guys are all doing well. Keep safe!"
That's it.
Guess they didn't really want to grab that olive branch. At least they replied ?
Just reinforces that blood =/= family. Several of you around here are closer to what I consider family than these two.
There's a door ajar, don't shut it!
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Exactly.
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Thanks for the encouragement guys, but there’s a lot of history that you guys naturally don’t know. It may seem like an open door, but the nature of the relationships have always been that it’s ALWAYS me that has to not only keep the door open, but be the one to walk thru. It’s not my job to make them care about me and my family. I’ve extended olive branches a number of times over the past 20 years. That’s the extent I can go to at this point. As I said, if they want to grab the other end of that branch, I’m game. They have to want to be part of a relationship too. If not, it’s cool - I've mourned the loss of those relationships already. I can’t/won’t be the only one to make the effort to rekindle them - I’ve been down that road before.
It sucks, but it is what it is.
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Seems like you are doing all you reasonably can.
On another note... I feel bad that you gang-bangers don't have a dad, that your mom got knocked up at 16 and has no idea how to raise a boy, that you were smuggled across the border in the dead of night as a baby, that segments of our society convinced women they don't need a man to raise a kid, that you dropped out of junior high because you figured you could make more money pushing dope and pimping out hoes in a year than you would having a real job, that other gangs want to kill you solely based on what color bandanna you wear....
But is it too much to ask for you motherfuckers to not spray paint our neighborhood fence?
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Seems like you are doing all you reasonably can.
On another note... I feel bad that you gang-bangers don't have a dad, that your mom got knocked up at 16 and has no idea how to raise a boy, that you were smuggled across the border in the dead of night as a baby, that segments of our society convinced women they don't need a man to raise a kid, that you dropped out of junior high because you figured you could make more money pushing dope and pimping out hoes in a year than you would having a real job, that other gangs want to kill you solely based on what color bandanna you wear....
But is it too much to ask for you motherfuckers to not spray paint our neighborhood fence?
It's called free art bro!
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Thanks for the encouragement guys, but there’s a lot of history that you guys naturally don’t know. It may seem like an open door, but the nature of the relationships have always been that it’s ALWAYS me that has to not only keep the door open, but be the one to walk thru. It’s not my job to make them care about me and my family. I’ve extended olive branches a number of times over the past 20 years. That’s the extent I can go to at this point. As I said, if they want to grab the other end of that branch, I’m game. They have to want to be part of a relationship too. If not, it’s cool - I've mourned the loss of those relationships already. I can’t/won’t be the only one to make the effort to rekindle them - I’ve been down that road before.
It sucks, but it is what it is.
I'm in no place to judge, but from where I'm sitting, it looks like you've done all you can, and you're at peace. That's all that really matters. You're under no obligation to keep exerting psychic energy (i don't mean that all New-Age-y, I just mean emotional effort) for no return and in fact, what seems to be something that is sucking even MORE emotional energy. I'm with you 100%: blood doesn't always equal family, no matter how many times Vin Diesel says it.
You said something to the effect of "now's the time, if there ever was the time", but I think I might offer that "now's the time, if ever was the time, to make sure YOU are in a good place, not adding more stress and more drama to an already over-stressed situation".
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@Chad... I feel ya on the family front. Just kind of wish I was able to bury the hatchet before it was too late. I hope you can, too...
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@Chad... I feel ya on the family front. Just kind of wish I was able to bury the hatchet before it was too late. I hope you can, too...
I hear ya bro... I can bury my hatchet, but it won't make an ounce of difference if the other two are still carrying theirs around.
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Chad, I also went through something quite similar with my parents. In a way, it's still happening. To me, I always go back to the fact that I have to live with myself, and my actions. Can I look myself in the mirror with my actions. I call on holidays. I'm simply not going to allow myself to not call. That's not me. I expect myself to do the right thing. Similar to the texts you sent out the other day. I think that's great. I pride myself on being the bigger person, and you can rest assured that you did the bigger person thing.
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My oldest got a text from a couple of his girl friends tonight saying there’s a guy on Snapchat pretending to be him sending dick pics to all the girls in his school. >:(
Since they know he doesn’t have any social media apps/profiles they knew it wasn’t him.....they reported the account and told the person to knock it off. I am livid. So livid I created an account....found the account and sent a sternly worded message. I also reported the account.
I’m thinking its some perv who just wanted to send DP’s to a bunch of little girls. If it turns out to be a student (if they find out who it is) then that student and his/her parents are going to have some words.
I hate the fact this happened to him and that he’s growing up in a world where there’s many ‘new’ ways to be embarrassed and picked on. Not gonna lie....my first instinct and what I ‘want’ to do to this person isn’t very civil or Christian. But....my son and I talked it through and it’ll be alright. Thankfully....the soonest he will be back in school is April 27th....if they even go back this year.
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I want to cock punch whoever did that. I'm so sorry Gary.
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That's fucked. How old is your oldest son, Gary?
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That's fucked. How old is your oldest son, Gary?
13. Turns 14 May 2nd
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Ooh, that's a tough age.
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I want to cock punch whoever did that. I'm so sorry Gary.
You and me both Joe. As a parent it just drives home the realization that I can’t protect them all the time.
I’m thankful he has friends that let him know and that reported the account. It’s just a bummer because he was really upset and embarrassed. We had a good talk though but I remember what being a teenager was like. Everything is the ‘end of the world’ and lets face it.....kids are mean.
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I think it was in the 'happy' thread the other day that I referenced reaching out to my father and brother - who I've been estranged from.... haven't spoken a single word to my brother in 3 years; no communication with my father for 2.5, and even before that it was very strained with them each off and on for well over a decade. So, in light of world events, what better time to extend an olive branch?
I sent them each a text message expressing my hope that they and their family were all safe and healthy, and coping thru everything as best as possible in these times and "Please know that we are thinking of you".
Actual responses:
Father - "So nice to hear from you. We are doing well. Being very careful with minimal to no outside contact. Hope you and the family are well also. Thanks for reaching out"
Brother - "Oh... a blast from the past. Thanks for reaching out. We're all ok. Hope you guys are all doing well. Keep safe!"
That's it.
Guess they didn't really want to grab that olive branch. At least they replied ?
Just reinforces that blood =/= family. Several of you around here are closer to what I consider family than these two.
I don't see too much wrong with their responses mate considering the circumstances. What did you expect? Did you have a next step in mind on what you want to happen?
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Got to know the background. I know a little more than most here and history matters in this case.
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I don't know any of Chad's background, but for me, I still expect parents to always be the adults in the room. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case in my family.
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@ Wolf... wasn't expecting too much from my brother, tbh. Though, his 'blast from the past' comments was fully intended sarcastically and in a douchebag way. You'd have to know my brother to get that. The last conversation we had was not pleasant at all, and at one point attacked the character and behaviour of my (then 16 year old) kids, and we hung up the phone on one another.
As for my father, one would thing that a grandfather would at least ask how his grandkids are doing? Even a simple 'how are you guys doing' would be some kind of indicator that there might be some interest on his end to rekindle the relationship. The flat, non-interested replies verify he (and my brother) have no interest. Which is fine. As I said, I mourned the loss of those relationships long ago. My father had abandoned me 3 times in my life (and twice with my wife/kids), and I'm in no hurry to be the one to give him a 4th opportunity.
@ Gary ... Jesus Horatio! That's fucked up. I believe a lot of States consider DP's to be child pornography. Is that the case in MO?
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Yeah, fair enough, that's some great points I probably should have picked up on. I guessed your brother was being somewhat sarcastic. You could follow up with an update on how you guys are etc. But I can see how there was no open questions from both of them to keep things going.
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@ Gary,
My first impulse was to make a crass and vulgar joke. Then I held back. I buried the black, hairy (slightly shiny with blue highlights), vaporous, creature who boast a creepy smile that lives in my head. I don't do that eagerly or often. I kinda like him...well, a lot, really. Anyway, I saw the potential of hurting your feelings and misinterpreting my intention. So instead, I locked him away. I love you that much, buddy.
My oldest got a text from a couple of his girl friends tonight saying there’s a guy on Snapchat pretending to be him sending dick pics to all the girls in his school. >:(
Since they know he doesn’t have any social media apps/profiles they knew it wasn’t him.....they reported the account and told the person to knock it off. I am livid. So livid I created an account....found the account and sent a sternly worded message. I also reported the account.
I’m thankful he has friends that let him know and that reported the account.
These are the bits that impressed me the most. What wonderful young women. I think if I were in your shoes, I would commend them to their parents. Bullying can only properly be countered in this way.
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@ Wolf... wasn't expecting too much from my brother, tbh. Though, his 'blast from the past' comments was fully intended sarcastically and in a douchebag way.
That was actually pretty clear, if you ask me.
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@ Gary,
My first impulse was to make a crass and vulgar joke. Then I held back. I buried the black, hairy (slightly shiny with blue highlights), vaporous, creature who boast a creepy smile that lives in my head. I don't do that eagerly or often. I kinda like him...well, a lot, really. Anyway, I saw the potential of hurting your feelings and misinterpreting my intention. So instead, I locked him away. I love you that much, buddy.
My oldest got a text from a couple of his girl friends tonight saying there’s a guy on Snapchat pretending to be him sending dick pics to all the girls in his school. >:(
Since they know he doesn’t have any social media apps/profiles they knew it wasn’t him.....they reported the account and told the person to knock it off. I am livid. So livid I created an account....found the account and sent a sternly worded message. I also reported the account.
I’m thankful he has friends that let him know and that reported the account.
These are the bits that impressed me the most. What wonderful young women. I think if I were in your shoes, I would commend them to their parents. Bullying can only properly be countered in this way.
I appreciate the restraint Gregg......however I probably would have realized your intent would have been joking around but again, I appreciate it.
We did text the girls themselves and thanked them but now that you mention it we really should let their parents know. Their actions are a testament to how they’ve been raised so I agree with you their parents should know what a kind gesture they made to our kiddo.
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Gary, I sent you a PM, but for the group, the hardest thing for me as a parent was watching the world, as it inevitably does, start to stomp on the innocence of my kids. It's life, but that doesn't make it any easier to watch. Thankful that your son has people on the ground (in the school) that care for him. I hoped for that with one of my kids and it didn't necessarily work out that way, which made it that much worse.
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Gary, I sent you a PM, but for the group, the hardest thing for me as a parent was watching the world, as it inevitably does, start to stomp on the innocence of my kids. It's life, but that doesn't make it any easier to watch. Thankful that your son has people on the ground (in the school) that care for him. I hoped for that with one of my kids and it didn't necessarily work out that way, which made it that much worse.
Thanks for the PM Bill....sent you a reply. I totally agree that watching the world or 'life' take a run at your kid(s) is tough to stomach at times. Yesterday was one of them.
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Damn. Well handled, Gary. That would have had me spitting fire. Some people really suck. :censored
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Not sure if my TV is fucked, but there's a fucking horizontal line right across the middle of the screen.
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People who film things* vertically (portrait). Not just today, this is an everyday piss-off.
Go ahead and film your face in portrait, but if you're filming other stuff that people might actually want to see or you might want to enjoy on an actual screen then film in landscape. Do you want to watch Star Wars vertically and have the camera whip-panning back and forth for 2 hours?
*Landscapes, sports, fires, arguments, etc.
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Amen brotha! It drives me nuts when Lisa takes a picture that way.
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Not sure if my TV is fucked, but there's a fucking horizontal line right across the middle of the screen.
Smash the fuck out of it and teach it a lesson.
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Time to get rid of the CRT. :lol
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Time to get rid of the CRT. :lol
Probably should upgrade the VCR while he's at it.
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Time to get rid of the CRT. :lol
Probably should upgrade the VCR while he's at it.
Or his Beta machine. :lol
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Haha...Haha
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(https://i.imgur.com/cyXRy1F.jpg)
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Tiger King?? Is that a show?
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Tim, do you use carrier pigeons instead of texting? I sure feels like it.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/3uio2q.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/3uio2q)
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Finding out the restaurant where I proposed to mrs.jingle is not going to re-open post COVID shutdown. :sadpanda: We haven't been there in a few years, but now we won't ever be there again.
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Finding out the restaurant where I proposed to mrs.jingle is not going to re-open post COVID shutdown. :sadpanda: We haven't been there in a few years, but now we won't ever be there again.
McDonald's is shutting down?? :P
(that sucks, for real)
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Finding out the restaurant where I proposed to mrs.jingle is not going to re-open post COVID shutdown. :sadpanda: We haven't been there in a few years, but now we won't ever be there again.
McDonald's is shutting down?? :P
:lol
"Mr Manager, can you put this ring in my girl's Happy Meal?"
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Finding out the restaurant where I proposed to mrs.jingle is not going to re-open post COVID shutdown. :sadpanda: We haven't been there in a few years, but now we won't ever be there again.
McDonald's is shutting down?? :P
(that sucks, for real)
I had a protein shake in my mouth when I read this, it very nearly went all over the screen. Fucking lol.
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I found the wedding cake decoration.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/97/50/d497502f407ad9f5d85e2983edd8d72e.jpg)
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Finding out the restaurant where I proposed to mrs.jingle is not going to re-open post COVID shutdown. :sadpanda: We haven't been there in a few years, but now we won't ever be there again.
Seriously though, that does suck. Scary reality is that we are going to see so much of this happening more and more. Can see so many nostalgic places for everyone just not returning. Dark times.
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I notice he's not denying it, though. :)
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The wit coming from your clowns was too juvenile to justify a response. ;) :P
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Whose clowns? Stadler's?
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:lol
Finding out the restaurant where I proposed to mrs.jingle is not going to re-open post COVID shutdown. :sadpanda: We haven't been there in a few years, but now we won't ever be there again.
but seriously, that's sad and sucks. I'm going to be really bummed if my local concert venues go out of business from all this.
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^^^ I was having that convo with my friend Jim (you met him) the other day. We saw Vivian Campbell and Last In Line in a little club in Agawam that was trying to make a go of putting on national acts, and he was struggling THEN; this isn't going to help him.
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The wit coming from your clowns was too juvenile to justify a response. ;) :P
:lol
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Been pissed off this week as we are getting back to work and where I work is operating again from Saturday. Have to work Saturday and people are back in the office so I can't browse DTF most of the day like I had been. >:(
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Been pissed off this week as we are getting back to work and where I work is operating again from Saturday. Have to work Saturday and people are back in the office so I can't browse DTF most of the day like I had been. >:(
Funny, was thinking that my most active days on DTF are when I am in the office :lol I work alone so I think it's more about having more distractions at home but when I'm work, it's mostly just sitting on my laptop and online.
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Prior authorizations with meds.
I wish so bad that the doctor could just filter out non formulary meds by insurer when he goes to prescribe, rather than:
1. prescribe random brand of med that you need
2. pharmacy rejects that brand because its not formulary for your insurance
3. Prior auth request is sent back to doctor
4. Doctor gets around to filling it out eventually
5. Prior auth goes back to insurance
6. Insurance decides whether or not to accept it
And when all is said and done, hopefully your still alive to even take the med :lol
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My wife tells me those horror stories all the time.
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Didn't know where to put this but I'm getting a bit mad/nervous about my whole job situation. I've been on furlough since May 12th and I immediately started applying to other positions. My job, while I'm on furlough, will still pay my and my families medical benefits....I don't lose any seniority or PTO or anything like that.....and my position is still there for me when they bring us back. I'm just not getting paid. I'm free to go work anywhere else and they'll keep paying my benefits and my job is there.....I just have to report back to my position within (5) days of being told I can come back to work.
So, with that being said.....I started applying to positions pretty quickly because I just want to work. I'm getting unemployment....which after taxes (I chose to get the taxes taken out now) is $828 a week. It's less than what I make 'normally' but it's enough to where I can budget and still get the bills paid. So, that's been nice. thing is, that's WITH the extra $600 a week from the Feds from that CARES act. That $600 a week ends July 31st....then I'd only be getting $288 a week :omg:
So, I knew when the Fed $$$ would end and that's why I started trying to get 'a' job ASAP. I've applied to (37) different positions of varying levels.....Project Manger positions like I'm doing now.....simple Computer Aided Drafting and design work I did right out of school and everything in between. I've had a total of (2) Interviews :(
One for a job that I was told I was the top candidate but that company is on a hiring freeze and the Rep. I spoke with had no idea when they'd let him fill the spot. The other was a PM position at a Construction Company and that was the first job I applied for......and I could tell on the Zoom interview that when we talked salary his face gave it away that we were miles apart.
I'm getting nervous now that I have basically a month to find some sort of job. I have a 'fall back' option of being a brick mason laborer with my buddies father in law's mason company.....he said he'd pay me cash and I could work as much as I wanted. But, a 44 year old brick mason laborer doesn't sound like too much fun :lol If I HAVE to I will.....but, that's a last straw type deal.
I'm willing to take just about anything right now. The consensus from my boss is that she doesn't think any of us will be called back until mid to late August at the earliest. Could be longer. If I can land a job just making $25 an hour....I could make that work for a couple months or until I could maybe find a job that was more comparable to what I'm doing/making now.
Anyway.....was just sitting here applying for a couple more jobs and starting to feel myself worrying a bit....so I thought typing it all out may help.
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Yeah Gary that blows and I feel for you, man.
$25/hr isn't that bad.
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$25/hr isn't that bad.
Totally. Just doing some basic calculating that’s about the minimum I could go to still maintain SOP in the Miller household.
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Well you'll keep us abreast I'm sure, but I really wish you the best of luck.
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At least you do have the brickie job to fall back on mate, so that's some assurance. Nothing to say you can't do that while looking for something else. At least just do that til August, it will be here before you know it.
The hiring freeze thing is very common, my company is doing the same at the moment too. It makes things tricky for both managers that need to engage stuff and of course the workers.
Try not to stress mate, it will work out and fall into place for you in the end.
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At least you do have the brickie job to fall back on mate, so that's some assurance. Nothing to say you can't do that while looking for something else. At least just do that til August, it will be here before you know it.
The hiring freeze thing is very common, my company is doing the same at the moment too. It makes things tricky for both managers that need to engage stuff and of course the workers.
Try not to stress mate, it will work out and fall into place for you in the end.
:tup Thank you Sir
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Prior authorizations with meds.
I wish so bad that the doctor could just filter out non formulary meds by insurer when he goes to prescribe, rather than:
1. prescribe random brand of med that you need
2. pharmacy rejects that brand because its not formulary for your insurance
3. Prior auth request is sent back to doctor
4. Doctor gets around to filling it out eventually
5. Prior auth goes back to insurance
6. Insurance decides whether or not to accept it
And when all is said and done, hopefully your still alive to even take the med :lol
Is this the American healthcare system?
Here in Canada, BC at least, pharmacies will always fill the generic brand as they're automatically covered. Every brand-name has an LCA (low-cost alternative) that gets filled even if Doc writes the brand name. For example, T3s are commonly prescribed just as "T3s", but then when filling it'll be something like "ratio-emtec" where "emtec" is the generic made by the company RATIOPHARM and has acetaminophen 325mg with codeine 30mg and will be fully covered.
If someone actually wants the brand name they can get it but they'll pay the difference in price from the generic to the brand. The Doc could also apply for a special authorization for insurance to pay the entire brand name price but it's rare.
I'm shocked you can't just tell the Doc that you want the generic that's actually covered but they won't write it. Just doing it at this time would save them the hassle as well. Seems pretty stupid.
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Liverpool football fans will piss me off today.
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Prior authorizations with meds.
I wish so bad that the doctor could just filter out non formulary meds by insurer when he goes to prescribe, rather than:
1. prescribe random brand of med that you need
2. pharmacy rejects that brand because its not formulary for your insurance
3. Prior auth request is sent back to doctor
4. Doctor gets around to filling it out eventually
5. Prior auth goes back to insurance
6. Insurance decides whether or not to accept it
And when all is said and done, hopefully your still alive to even take the med :lol
Is this the American healthcare system?
Here in Canada, BC at least, pharmacies will always fill the generic brand as they're automatically covered. Every brand-name has an LCA (low-cost alternative) that gets filled even if Doc writes the brand name. For example, T3s are commonly prescribed just as "T3s", but then when filling it'll be something like "ratio-emtec" where "emtec" is the generic made by the company RATIOPHARM and has acetaminophen 325mg with codeine 30mg and will be fully covered.
If someone actually wants the brand name they can get it but they'll pay the difference in price from the generic to the brand. The Doc could also apply for a special authorization for insurance to pay the entire brand name price but it's rare.
I'm shocked you can't just tell the Doc that you want the generic that's actually covered but they won't write it. Just doing it at this time would save them the hassle as well. Seems pretty stupid.
Pharmacies here will also autosub to a generic, but where things got screwed up in this case is he wrote for an inhaler that doesn't have a generic yet. He wrote for Dulera, where if he would have written for Symbicort then it would have gotten autosubstituted to the generic version that is available and I would have it in my hands.
They are both the same drug class, but going into the appointment I didn't really know what he was going to write for. All I knew was I can't breath correctly and I need to see the doctor. I could have asked him to write for a generic, but I truthfully didn't know symbicort was the one that had a generic.
So today, if the prior auth is still in limbo, I will call his office and ask for the generic.
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Prior authorizations with meds.
I wish so bad that the doctor could just filter out non formulary meds by insurer when he goes to prescribe, rather than:
1. prescribe random brand of med that you need
2. pharmacy rejects that brand because its not formulary for your insurance
3. Prior auth request is sent back to doctor
4. Doctor gets around to filling it out eventually
5. Prior auth goes back to insurance
6. Insurance decides whether or not to accept it
And when all is said and done, hopefully your still alive to even take the med :lol
Is this the American healthcare system?
Here in Canada, BC at least, pharmacies will always fill the generic brand as they're automatically covered. Every brand-name has an LCA (low-cost alternative) that gets filled even if Doc writes the brand name. For example, T3s are commonly prescribed just as "T3s", but then when filling it'll be something like "ratio-emtec" where "emtec" is the generic made by the company RATIOPHARM and has acetaminophen 325mg with codeine 30mg and will be fully covered.
If someone actually wants the brand name they can get it but they'll pay the difference in price from the generic to the brand. The Doc could also apply for a special authorization for insurance to pay the entire brand name price but it's rare.
I'm shocked you can't just tell the Doc that you want the generic that's actually covered but they won't write it. Just doing it at this time would save them the hassle as well. Seems pretty stupid.
Pharmacies here will also autosub to a generic, but where things got screwed up in this case is he wrote for an inhaler that doesn't have a generic yet. He wrote for Dulera, where if he would have written for Symbicort then it would have gotten autosubstituted to the generic version that is available and I would have it in my hands.
They are both the same drug class, but going into the appointment I didn't really know what he was going to write for. All I knew was I can't breath correctly and I need to see the doctor. I could have asked him to write for a generic, but I truthfully didn't know symbicort was the one that had a generic.
So today, if the prior auth is still in limbo, I will call his office and ask for the generic.
I've always been a little perplexed by something. I have a recurring infection in my left leg (stems from the balcony fall) that has hospitalized me four times in the last three years. It's usually a four or five night stay. I've been prescribed a type of preventative cream that my insurance won't cover. However, when I went to the pharmacist he brought me to the aisle and showed me an over the counter cream that was "exactly the same thing chemically as the one my insurance wouldn't cover". How does that work? How could you have two identical products, one of which requires a doctor's prescription and another that doesn't?
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Didn't know where to put this but I'm getting a bit mad/nervous about my whole job situation. I've been on furlough since May 12th and I immediately started applying to other positions. My job, while I'm on furlough, will still pay my and my families medical benefits....I don't lose any seniority or PTO or anything like that.....and my position is still there for me when they bring us back. I'm just not getting paid. I'm free to go work anywhere else and they'll keep paying my benefits and my job is there.....I just have to report back to my position within (5) days of being told I can come back to work.
So, with that being said.....I started applying to positions pretty quickly because I just want to work. I'm getting unemployment....which after taxes (I chose to get the taxes taken out now) is $828 a week. It's less than what I make 'normally' but it's enough to where I can budget and still get the bills paid. So, that's been nice. thing is, that's WITH the extra $600 a week from the Feds from that CARES act. That $600 a week ends July 31st....then I'd only be getting $288 a week :omg:
So, I knew when the Fed $$$ would end and that's why I started trying to get 'a' job ASAP. I've applied to (37) different positions of varying levels.....Project Manger positions like I'm doing now.....simple Computer Aided Drafting and design work I did right out of school and everything in between. I've had a total of (2) Interviews :(
One for a job that I was told I was the top candidate but that company is on a hiring freeze and the Rep. I spoke with had no idea when they'd let him fill the spot. The other was a PM position at a Construction Company and that was the first job I applied for......and I could tell on the Zoom interview that when we talked salary his face gave it away that we were miles apart.
I'm getting nervous now that I have basically a month to find some sort of job. I have a 'fall back' option of being a brick mason laborer with my buddies father in law's mason company.....he said he'd pay me cash and I could work as much as I wanted. But, a 44 year old brick mason laborer doesn't sound like too much fun :lol If I HAVE to I will.....but, that's a last straw type deal.
I'm willing to take just about anything right now. The consensus from my boss is that she doesn't think any of us will be called back until mid to late August at the earliest. Could be longer. If I can land a job just making $25 an hour....I could make that work for a couple months or until I could maybe find a job that was more comparable to what I'm doing/making now.
Anyway.....was just sitting here applying for a couple more jobs and starting to feel myself worrying a bit....so I thought typing it all out may help.
Oh man, that is really really rough. I can't imagine how stressed out you must be right now. If you don't mind, I'll pray for you that you will be able to find a great paying gig in the mean time while you are waiting for your regular job to come back.
Stay strong and have courage!
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Prior authorizations with meds.
I wish so bad that the doctor could just filter out non formulary meds by insurer when he goes to prescribe, rather than:
1. prescribe random brand of med that you need
2. pharmacy rejects that brand because its not formulary for your insurance
3. Prior auth request is sent back to doctor
4. Doctor gets around to filling it out eventually
5. Prior auth goes back to insurance
6. Insurance decides whether or not to accept it
And when all is said and done, hopefully your still alive to even take the med :lol
Is this the American healthcare system?
Here in Canada, BC at least, pharmacies will always fill the generic brand as they're automatically covered. Every brand-name has an LCA (low-cost alternative) that gets filled even if Doc writes the brand name. For example, T3s are commonly prescribed just as "T3s", but then when filling it'll be something like "ratio-emtec" where "emtec" is the generic made by the company RATIOPHARM and has acetaminophen 325mg with codeine 30mg and will be fully covered.
If someone actually wants the brand name they can get it but they'll pay the difference in price from the generic to the brand. The Doc could also apply for a special authorization for insurance to pay the entire brand name price but it's rare.
I'm shocked you can't just tell the Doc that you want the generic that's actually covered but they won't write it. Just doing it at this time would save them the hassle as well. Seems pretty stupid.
Pharmacies here will also autosub to a generic, but where things got screwed up in this case is he wrote for an inhaler that doesn't have a generic yet. He wrote for Dulera, where if he would have written for Symbicort then it would have gotten autosubstituted to the generic version that is available and I would have it in my hands.
They are both the same drug class, but going into the appointment I didn't really know what he was going to write for. All I knew was I can't breath correctly and I need to see the doctor. I could have asked him to write for a generic, but I truthfully didn't know symbicort was the one that had a generic.
So today, if the prior auth is still in limbo, I will call his office and ask for the generic.
I've always been a little perplexed by something. I have a recurring infection in my left leg (stems from the balcony fall) that has hospitalized me four times in the last three years. It's usually a four or five night stay. I've been prescribed a type of preventative cream that my insurance won't cover. However, when I went to the pharmacist he brought me to the aisle and showed me an over the counter cream that was "exactly the same thing chemically as the one my insurance wouldn't cover". How does that work? How could you have two identical products, one of which requires a doctor's prescription and another that doesn't?
I'm not a pharmacist, and I don't play one on TV (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night)... as I understand it, a couple things could be happening: one, the cream w/prescription is the same CHEMICALLY, but more concentrated. Two, the prescription isn't NECESSARY, he's just writing it out so you have a chance of insurance covering it (or flex). Flex doesn't over OTC (thanks, Obama!*) but it does cover copays on prescriptions. Three, it's not EXACTLY, and the pharmacist was generalizing because of what you need. I have a cream that my doctor prescribed, and it works like a charm. My wife found "the same cream" without a prescription, but reality is, it's missing one specific ingredient. So while it does most of what the scripted version does, it's not quite the same (the OTC covers the symptoms, basically, but it doesn't go away; the scripted version will clear up the condition as well). Good for emergencies/traveling, but not a long term solution.
* Not really joking, because Obamacare significantly changed the categories to which flex accounts apply, including removing most OTC medicines. I am joking with the reference though.
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Stadler has it right
The stuff in the aisle typically is less concentrated, so it gets classified as OTC (over the counter). So you may see like a 2% cream as prescription where as there's 1% in the aisle. And Depending on the condition, sometimes things can be "prescribed" by a doctor like a 90 day supply of Nexium so that its cheaper through insurance than buying out of pocket, but anyone can go and just buy it as well.
But then there's the laundry list of things insurance dosen't cover :P
The prescription law/insurance policies always blew my mind and is very convoluted. I barley even passed the Pharmacy law exam, lol. And more things are OTC now than ever, so if you have a good guide, you can treat a lot of conditions just from whats in the aisle to buy.
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Didn't know where to put this but I'm getting a bit mad/nervous about my whole job situation. I've been on furlough since May 12th and I immediately started applying to other positions. My job, while I'm on furlough, will still pay my and my families medical benefits....I don't lose any seniority or PTO or anything like that.....and my position is still there for me when they bring us back. I'm just not getting paid. I'm free to go work anywhere else and they'll keep paying my benefits and my job is there.....I just have to report back to my position within (5) days of being told I can come back to work.
So, with that being said.....I started applying to positions pretty quickly because I just want to work. I'm getting unemployment....which after taxes (I chose to get the taxes taken out now) is $828 a week. It's less than what I make 'normally' but it's enough to where I can budget and still get the bills paid. So, that's been nice. thing is, that's WITH the extra $600 a week from the Feds from that CARES act. That $600 a week ends July 31st....then I'd only be getting $288 a week :omg:
So, I knew when the Fed $$$ would end and that's why I started trying to get 'a' job ASAP. I've applied to (37) different positions of varying levels.....Project Manger positions like I'm doing now.....simple Computer Aided Drafting and design work I did right out of school and everything in between. I've had a total of (2) Interviews :(
One for a job that I was told I was the top candidate but that company is on a hiring freeze and the Rep. I spoke with had no idea when they'd let him fill the spot. The other was a PM position at a Construction Company and that was the first job I applied for......and I could tell on the Zoom interview that when we talked salary his face gave it away that we were miles apart.
I'm getting nervous now that I have basically a month to find some sort of job. I have a 'fall back' option of being a brick mason laborer with my buddies father in law's mason company.....he said he'd pay me cash and I could work as much as I wanted. But, a 44 year old brick mason laborer doesn't sound like too much fun :lol If I HAVE to I will.....but, that's a last straw type deal.
I'm willing to take just about anything right now. The consensus from my boss is that she doesn't think any of us will be called back until mid to late August at the earliest. Could be longer. If I can land a job just making $25 an hour....I could make that work for a couple months or until I could maybe find a job that was more comparable to what I'm doing/making now.
Anyway.....was just sitting here applying for a couple more jobs and starting to feel myself worrying a bit....so I thought typing it all out may help.
Oh man, that is really really rough. I can't imagine how stressed out you must be right now. If you don't mind, I'll pray for you that you will be able to find a great paying gig in the mean time while you are waiting for your regular job to come back.
Stay strong and have courage!
Thank you Sir! :tup
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Keep your chin up and keep at it, Gary. You'll find something sooner rather than later. :tup :tup
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I've always been a little perplexed by something. I have a recurring infection in my left leg (stems from the balcony fall) that has hospitalized me four times in the last three years. It's usually a four or five night stay. I've been prescribed a type of preventative cream that my insurance won't cover. However, when I went to the pharmacist he brought me to the aisle and showed me an over the counter cream that was "exactly the same thing chemically as the one my insurance wouldn't cover". How does that work? How could you have two identical products, one of which requires a doctor's prescription and another that doesn't?
Here's good practice: go grab a box of TYLENOL (brand) and then look at the box of ACETAMINOPHEN (generic) right next to it. You'll see they both contain 325mg of acetaminophen (or 500mg of acetaminophen if you're looking at the extra strength version). They are identical.
What will blow you away is when you start looking at the active ingredients of other meds. Did you know that the generic of BENADRYL is called DIPHENHYDRAMINE and that is also the generic of NYTOL? So if you buy diphenhydramine (generic) you have yourself an anti-histamine as well as a sleep aid.
Instead of buying GRAVOL in a 10-tab blister pack for $8, grab a bottle of 50 DIMENHYDRINATE for the same price (you may have to ask for it cuz it's sometimes kept behind the counter).
As mentioned already, creams and such can have different concentrations, and if you want something higher than what's available on the shelf then Doc definitely has to write something for the pharmacy to custom-prepare.
But, when looking at simple things like tabs/caps, always take a look at the generic brand, you'll save a lot of money.
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Thankfully I married a certified pharmacy technician. Lol. With me being on blood thinners, (Eliquis) I can really only have Acetaminophen.
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Fucking stupid woke culture pissed me off today. Don't @ me :lol
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Fucking stupid woke culture pissed me off today. Don't @ me :lol
Don't ask you? Come on Walrus, don't leave us hanging, give us the story! By the way, I agree with you about woke culture :).
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Fucking stupid woke culture pissed me off today. Don't @ me :lol
Don't ask you? Come on Walrus, don't leave us hanging, give us the story! By the way, I agree with you about woke culture :).
Go check Cyril's roulette thread in GMD :facepalm: you'll probably get a laugh or three :lol
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I really don't think posts like the above will help anything at all.
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I really don't think posts like the above will help anything at all.
Well, they weren't intended to help. This is the pissed off thread. I mentioned what pissed me off. Success!
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okay!
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When you have a very strained relationship with your uncle, who you made up with as your grandmother's dying wish. And You have to go to his wedding in a few weeks:
and today he asks you to illegally bring him fireworks for his wedding (they are legal in my state and not his state apparently) and argues with you when you tell him you don't feel comfortable doing so :P
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When you have a very strained relationship with your uncle, who you made up with as your grandmother's dying wish. And You have to go to his wedding in a few weeks:
and today he asks you to illegally bring him fireworks for his wedding (they are legal in my state and not his state apparently) and argues with you when you tell him you don't feel comfortable doing so :P
That's no good. I wouldn't do it if I were you. Wedding or no wedding, promise to Grandma or no promise to Grandma. If caught, you could be charged with arson. I'm a "do what ever you want unless it hurts someone else" kind of guy, so in principle I believe people should be able to do fireworks when ever and where ever they want as long as it's on private property. But since the consequences are potentially so steep, I just wouldn't risk it. It would make me angry too if I was in your position.
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Fucking stupid woke culture pissed me off today. Don't @ me :lol
I feel you man. I just read through that thread at GMD and :facepalm:
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When you have a very strained relationship with your uncle, who you made up with as your grandmother's dying wish. And You have to go to his wedding in a few weeks:
and today he asks you to illegally bring him fireworks for his wedding (they are legal in my state and not his state apparently) and argues with you when you tell him you don't feel comfortable doing so :P
That's no good. I wouldn't do it if I were you. Wedding or no wedding, promise to Grandma or no promise to Grandma. If caught, you could be charged with arson. I'm a "do what ever you want unless it hurts someone else" kind of guy, so in principle I believe people should be able to do fireworks when ever and where ever they want as long as it's on private property. But since the consequences are potentially so steep, I just wouldn't risk it. It would make me angry too if I was in your position.
Oh totally. I told him I didn't feel comfortable doing it and thank god he accepted it. The conflict of him wanting to do stupid shit and me trying not to is huge part of the reason why we had the original falling out.
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Fucking stupid woke culture pissed me off today. Don't @ me :lol
*Wonders what this is about...
*Checks out the thread in question...
10 minutes later...
Wow.
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Fucking stupid woke culture pissed me off today. Don't @ me :lol
*Wonders what this is about...
*Checks out the thread in question...
10 minutes later...
Wow.
Yeah, that was my reaction too.
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Fucking TV shows that I start to get in to when they first drop, but then the goddamn network doesn't renew them. At least a 1/2 dozen shows over the past few years I've gotten invested in, only to be left at the alter - and usually on a medium-to-large sized cliffhanger. :getoffmylawn:
Just makes me only want to invest my time with existing shows that already have multiple seasons - or revisit shows I already watched years ago that were absolutely fantastic (eg, Fringe).
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That happens to Lisa and I all the time.
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Not to me!
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I'm not sure if I should be pissed at this, or honored. I just learned that the Kyle and Chad are the male equivalents to Susan and Karen.
I'd like to speak to someone's manager about this.
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Chad, is Chad your given name or is it Charles? I know people named Charles will go by Chad sometimes.
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Welcome to Joe shmo, Joe mama ect... lol
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Chad, is Chad your given name or is it Charles? I know people named Charles will go by Chad sometimes.
I'm 100% Chad
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Obviously! :lol
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Chad, is Chad your given name or is it Charles? I know people named Charles will go by Chad sometimes.
I'm 100% Chad
Such a man's man.
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Not necessarily today...
but the fact that my I called the manager a week ago from the insurance agency that laid me off in March, to ask about my job, since he said once things get back to normal ish, I'd have a job. He didn't answer my call, I left a long voice mail basically saying "Hey lemme know if I have a job still", and he hasn't called me back. Just tell me to go fuck off already damnit.
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Not necessarily today...
but the fact that my I called the manager a week ago from the insurance agency that laid me off in March, to ask about my job, since he said once things get back to normal ish, I'd have a job. He didn't answer my call, I left a long voice mail basically saying "Hey lemme know if I have a job still", and he hasn't called me back. Just tell me to go fuck off already damnit.
That really really sucks man, I'm sorry. It looks like you got your answer though. Just in the wussiest way possible.
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Not necessarily today...
but the fact that my I called the manager a week ago from the insurance agency that laid me off in March, to ask about my job, since he said once things get back to normal ish, I'd have a job. He didn't answer my call, I left a long voice mail basically saying "Hey lemme know if I have a job still", and he hasn't called me back. Just tell me to go fuck off already damnit.
That really really sucks man, I'm sorry. It looks like you got your answer though. Just in the wussiest way possible.
I'll probably try to contact him again this week. Maybe just an email, while I start looking. I totally understand all of the reasons to NOT bring me back, but at least tell me.
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Fucking TV shows that I start to get in to when they first drop, but then the goddamn network doesn't renew them. At least a 1/2 dozen shows over the past few years I've gotten invested in, only to be left at the alter - and usually on a medium-to-large sized cliffhanger. :getoffmylawn:
Just makes me only want to invest my time with existing shows that already have multiple seasons - or revisit shows I already watched years ago that were absolutely fantastic (eg, Fringe).
DUDE! It's at the point that it's a running joke between my wife and I. She'll actually tell me: "Honey, don't watch this; I don't want it to be cancelled". Drives me CRAZY.
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I have no idea where to put this. This seems like the best place.
Warning: Graphic language, hateful text, and potentially political ramblings.
So this happened in my neighborhood. On a good day I could throw a baseball and with a solid roll it would land in their driveway.
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/officers-find-19-million-worth-of-fentanyl-in-lynnwood-home/
Investigators also reportedly found around 808 grams of heroin, 12 grams of methamphetamine, $14,000 in cash, and equipment that suggested the couple had planned to package and sell the drugs. The man and woman were arrested by the Snohomish Regional Drug Task Force.
“The amount of fentanyl powder that (the couple) possessed at their residence has the capability to cause the death of about 700,000 citizens,” he wrote.
“(He) was in possession of about 1,900 grams of fentanyl powder in order to produce counterfeit pills,” the officer wrote. “The amount of fentanyl powder present at arrest could produce about 1.9 million counterfeit pills with a street value of at least $19 million.”
Jesus Fucking Christ. I was outside playing with my kids and their neighbor friends when the cops tossed their house. It was a lovely Saturday afternoon. Little did we know what filth lived a few houses down (they were renters; and according to the owner and other sources I've read, she was not involved in this in any manner).
I cannot put my thoughts in to words right now. $19M in dope that could kill upwards of 3/4 a million people? All in a middle-class neighborhood filled with families of all cultures, races, and backgrounds, with little kids, just trying to live their lives happily as best they can. I waffle on the death penalty, and realize I am close to this situation personally, but I'd love for these two to ride Old Sparky. And without the sponge being soaked. This scum deserves no place on this planet.
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Wow Chris, that's incredible.
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Wow, that's crazy and just shows how little we all know about people so close to us. But that fentanyl is very dangerous from my understanding. That guy should be charged with attempted murder.
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The 38-year-old man was arrested for investigation of three different counts of drug manufacturing with intent to deliver, along with three counts of unlawful possession of a firearm. He has been convicted of previous felonies, including first-degree robbery and possession of a controlled substance with intent to deliver, court papers show.
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My HOA. Man, I hate HOA's.
I received a letter today from them citing me for a violation for not having my driveway sealcoated.
I had my driveway professionally sealcoated 2 weeks ago today. It still looks good as new. >:(
We are a tiny community and the HOA management office is 15 minutes away. How can you not check again before sending something that you clearly flagged several weeks ago and only now got around to sending? Just stupid and a waste of HOA money.
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That's why I would never buy a home in a community. Not that I would let our play look like hell but the thought of other neighbors being able to control my yard sounds aggravating.
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I get the purpose of HOAs (trying to keep any one property from dragging down the value of everyone else's property due to poor upkeep and creating a unified feel of the neighborhood), but they can be a bit over the top much of the time. The only time I dealt with one was when we owned a townhome. Makes more sense in that situation since the homes were literally attached to each other. Doesn't make much sense in a neighborhood of single family homes.
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That's why I would never buy a home in a community. Not that I would let our play look like hell but the thought of other neighbors being able to control my yard sounds aggravating.
This is my first house and I was naive to what an HOA was. Had I known then what I know now, I would never have moved here. HOA's are an abomination. A group of holier than thou neighbors who have the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my property. It sows discontent and makes people dislike each other. I cannot begin to tell you the arguments that have erupted between people here over how to use HOA funds.
Not to mention that last fall my roof sprung a leak. My contractor had to jump through a ton of hoops and we had to submit paperwork to get approval on putting black asphalt shingles on our roof. Really? Took them over 3 weeks to grant approval. My contractor was so pissed he physically visited the HOA office to read them the riot act. They approved and then sent another letter asking for a bunch more insurance and paperwork from him. Just an unpleasant experience.
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Curious... what legal jurisdiction does an HOA actually have. If you had just gone and done what you wanted with the roof, what recourse does an HOA have against you? Serious question, as I've never been part of an HOA.
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Curious... what legal jurisdiction does an HOA actually have. If you had just gone and done what you wanted with the roof, what recourse does an HOA have against you? Serious question, as I've never been part of an HOA.
They can fine me, take me to court over violating by-laws, place a lien on the house if I don't pay fines. It's like I am a tenet paying rent. It's awful.
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It's basically contract law. You've signed the HOA agreement (most likely) when you bought the house. I have two experiences with HOAs, and while I have nothing quite so egregious as the Prof., neither was a glorious experience.
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I was elected as one of three HOA trustees and it’s just brutal. I’m all for making sure people maintain their property but some of these bi laws are just silly. I ignore a ton of stuff I see and thankfully don’t have Facebook to see/read the comments from people on our subdivision page. It’s hilarious to me that adults can’t just talk to their neighbors if they have a problem.....they want us to do it.
The management company we have that runs our finances and sends out violation letters and what not is a joke as well.
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It's basically contract law. You've signed the HOA agreement (most likely) when you bought the house. I have two experiences with HOAs, and while I have nothing quite so egregious as the Prof., neither was a glorious experience.
So, they don't have any true governmental powers like a municipal government has, but the HOA contract gives them the ability to take legal action? And that then offers them the ability to fine you, and place a lien against your house!?!?! That's fucked up.
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Chad, I have friends that have bought house in these types of neighborhoods and to each one I've told them they are nuts.
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It's basically contract law. You've signed the HOA agreement (most likely) when you bought the house. I have two experiences with HOAs, and while I have nothing quite so egregious as the Prof., neither was a glorious experience.
So, they don't have any true governmental powers like a municipal government has, but the HOA contract gives them the ability to take legal action? And that then offers them the ability to fine you, and place a lien against your house!?!?! That's fucked up.
Not to mention that we pay them for the 'right' to control what we do. It's as backwards as something can get. Have to pay my dues twice a year or face the consequences. I hate it. Should've educated myself. It's on me for the one time I don't obsessively investigate something.
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Again, I'm genuinely curious. What make a person buying in to a street/neighbourhood obligated to join the HOA? I mean, is the HOA agreement attached to the purchase agreement of the house/property? Do they show up on the day you move in "hey neighbour, welcome. Would you mind putting your John Henry on this document? Press hard, there's three copies."?
If the former, I'd tell the home sellers to go pound sand.
If the latter, I'd treat the clown at my door the same as I would a Jehovah's Witness. Thanks, I've got my own beliefs *close door*.
Wouldn't an HOA have a detrimental impact on property values via potential reduced demand?
I mean, I get it for condo and townhouse complexes, where common areas are funded and maintained, and for 'gated' communities where people actually want certain conditions of living to be upheld throughout the community. But as a general proposition .... why the hell?
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You can't buy the house unless you agree to the terms Chad. That's why I never looked into those new developments because most had them. It's a plague here.
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There's an area of our town just like that. My parents live on the corner of a block right outside of it. That entire area of town is SUPER nice but it's also pretty much only obtainable for wealthy people (lawyers, doctors and such live down there). But the HOA just sounds like a major pain in the ass, they get on you if your grass is just a little bit over their acceptable limit, which means people are out there cutting their grass sometimes twice a week. Stuff like that would drive me insane, I don't care how nice the house is, GTFO policing my yard :lol But I guess some people don't mind it...
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I hate to play the role of HOA DEFENDER but I feel like they can be similar to an ump in a ballgame. If things go well, you aren't even aware of them; if things go poorly, you hate them with all your might.
I mean, I get it for condo and townhouse complexes, where common areas are funded and maintained, and for 'gated' communities where people actually want certain conditions of living to be upheld throughout the community.
This is important. So for us, we our detached homes, but we share a private road and stormwater facilities. When that road needs maintenance or the stormwater drains need to be cleaned, there needs to be a mechanism for it to be paid for.
Again, I'm genuinely curious. What make a person buying in to a street/neighbourhood obligated to join the HOA? I mean, is the HOA agreement attached to the purchase agreement of the house/property?
Yes it is, you will acknowledge you have received a copy of the CC&Rs and agree to abide by them as part of your signing.
Wouldn't an HOA have a detrimental impact on property values via potential reduced demand?
Possibly, but also if there were requirements for everyone to maintain a certain standard of care for their property, that would have a positive effect on house values.
A couple recent examples here.... there was a new renter who was parking their van on their front lawn. The CC&Rs prohibit that, so I mentioned it to him, and he kindly apologized and doesn't do it anymore. People should be able to park wherever they want on their property, but the developer decided that it would be best for the community if people didn't do that. Using your comment about house values, seeing a bunch of vans parked on front lawns could have an adverse effect on a potential buyer.
Another... a homeowner in the back corner replaced their front lawn grass with field turf. This is not allowed, but their house is in the back corner, and it looks nicer than it ever did before, so we decided to let this one slide.
I feel bad reading all these horror stories. I think HOAs can be beneficial to all when handled appropriately.
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Fair points Chris. I appreciate the perspectives. I think an HOA would be a literal show stopper, at least in my current stage of life. I see the pros, but having a private entity / neighborhood collective have complete oversight on what I can/cannot do with my own property and house?? Nuh uh.
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Except I don't want a ref in my daily life. Lol
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But you're married..
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She's a bully, not a ref. :lol
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Fair points Chris. I appreciate the perspectives. I think an HOA would be a literal show stopper, at least in my current stage of life. I see the pros, but having a private entity / neighborhood collective have complete oversight on what I can/cannot do with my own property and house?? Nuh uh.
I think you are overestimating the level of "oversight." Of course it varies from one HOA to the next. Some people here go a little crazy with the fireworks on July 04, and a couple homeowners asked me if there was anything we could do about it. I told them that there was not, as there was nothing in any documents about lighting off fireworks. They could have brought up the line item about "quiet and reasonable enjoyment" (basically "don't be a dick and make a raucous racket in the wee hours in the morning") and maybe they would have had a point. But I wouldn't have enforced it (and not solely because I am one of those who enjoys the fireworks).
In the 3+ years I've been HOA president, I've had to address 1) the guy parking his van on his front lawn mentioned above 2) telling a couple families it was ok to have an AC unit installed in their home 3) clarify for a homeowner if there were any requirements or specifications if they wanted to build a fence on their property, and 4) tell someone he couldn't permanently have a pop-up canopy in his driveway. To the best of my knowledge, that has been the extent of the issues I've faced.
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The drug-house notwithstanding. :P :lol Hey, all of that sounds reasonably reasonable. And for every good HOA there is, sounds like there are at least 1 or 3 nightmare ones.
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Again, I'm genuinely curious. What make a person buying in to a street/neighbourhood obligated to join the HOA? I mean, is the HOA agreement attached to the purchase agreement of the house/property? Do they show up on the day you move in "hey neighbour, welcome. Would you mind putting your John Henry on this document? Press hard, there's three copies."?
If the former, I'd tell the home sellers to go pound sand.
If the latter, I'd treat the clown at my door the same as I would a Jehovah's Witness. Thanks, I've got my own beliefs *close door*.
Wouldn't an HOA have a detrimental impact on property values via potential reduced demand?
I mean, I get it for condo and townhouse complexes, where common areas are funded and maintained, and for 'gated' communities where people actually want certain conditions of living to be upheld throughout the community. But as a general proposition .... why the hell?
EDIT: Ninja'd, sort of, by Chris.
The HOAs I've been part of were a contingency of the sale. There was a choice, but the choice was "buy the house"/"don't buy the house". And remember, we're talking about the evils now. There are SOME good things. If there is a community center, perhaps, or a pool, you get the benefit without any of the hassle. In some cases, snow removal (for sidewalks and what not) is taken care of. Lawn mowing and shrubbery for common areas or connective areas (meaning, the spaces between my property line and the next, occupied property line). Uniformity; the neighbor across the street cannot erect a gaudy wall without approval, or excessively (in some cases, not at all) erect "Trump in 2020!" signs. In one case, there was also insurance purchased by the HOA for things that were out of coverage to traditional homeowners as well. In duplex/condo situations, that extends to building insurance and things like roof and septic/utility repair.
I can't speak to up here, but in Georgia and North Carolina - where farms are more prevalent, and the odds of a Chevy 325 hemi engine showing up in someone's front yard are also higher - HOAs can (especially if tied to a community center/common area benefits) improve property values.
(Sidebar: in Georgia, there was a running joke in the neighborhood; someone started putting 10 or 15 pink flamingos out in the middle of the night on a selected lawn. It was patently against the HOA code, but it turned into a fun little gag. On any given Saturday/Sunday, you could wake up to a gaggle of plastic flamingos on your lawn. It happened to me once, and I put them in my garage, and a day or so later, "George" (I don't know why the quotes; that WAS his name) stopped by and said "if you need help getting rid of those flamingos, let me know. I know just the place..." About a week or so later, he and I and another dude were erecting them on another lawn. I don't really know the point other than a) to fuck with the HOA reps, and b) build a little cameraderie. It was a nice feeling, actually, to know that someone trusted us to be a part of the community and not go all "citizens arrest! citizens arrest!").
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As for fireworks, though... I love a good fireworks display as much as the next guy, but we're having a rash of that up here. It's bad enough on the 4th, and the weekends surrounding the date, but at least I can expect it. We seem to get fireworks any weekend night that is decent and no rain, and I've had enough. I have three dogs and they are as stupid as they come. One is a 20 lb dachshund, and if he hears a firework OR either of the other two dogs, he immediately starts barking and jumps down to run to the door. So every firework explosion is joined by a "bark... <thump> (becuase he's a fat sausage)... bark bark bark!" The other two are stupid, so they hear him react and figure something's up, so THEY start barking. One is a little 4 lb chihuahua (or "chiwalla" as my step son calls her) and so her bark is an annoying yap that responds to the dachshund. But then, the dachshund, not exactly being Inspector Clouseau, figures, uh, someone else must be up, and has to start another round of barking. It can literally go on for half an hour FOR EACH FIREWORK EVENT.
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Yeah, my choice is to never deal with an F'ing committee for my house. No thank you.
Like that commercial with the lady cutting the mailbox down because it is 2 inches to high. I would punch her and her husband out.
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We lived in an HOA housing development for a big after my dad had some back issues and therefore needed people to take care of the yard and whatnot (also my family was looking to downsize as well). Living in those communities has it's ups and downs, but at the end of the day, you don't have the freedom you wish you'd have for owning a home. There was some issue with the siding on all the houses in the neighborhood and there was no option, each house had to pay 40k to fix the issues.
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We lived in an HOA housing development for a big after my dad had some back issues and therefore needed people to take care of the yard and whatnot (also my family was looking to downsize as well). Living in those communities has it's ups and downs, but at the end of the day, you don't have the freedom you wish you'd have for owning a home. There was some issue with the siding on all the houses in the neighborhood and there was no option, each house had to pay 40k to fix the issues.
And what about the people that don't have $40k stashed in a shoebox under their bed? This is the kinda shit would make my blood boil - forcing me to do (or not do) something with my own property and dwelling that I don't want to (or want to). Like, if my roof was starting to deteriorate at about 15 years, and me getting a notice from Russell down the street that I have 90 days to replace my roof. As I said, I get the aspect of shared services and shared amenities... but beyond that, go fuck off.
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We lived in an HOA housing development for a big after my dad had some back issues and therefore needed people to take care of the yard and whatnot (also my family was looking to downsize as well). Living in those communities has it's ups and downs, but at the end of the day, you don't have the freedom you wish you'd have for owning a home. There was some issue with the siding on all the houses in the neighborhood and there was no option, each house had to pay 40k to fix the issues.
And what about the people that don't have $40k stashed in a shoebox under their bed? This is the kinda shit would make my blood boil - forcing me to do (or not do) something with my own property and dwelling that I don't want to (or want to). Like, if my roof was starting to deteriorate at about 15 years, and me getting a notice from Russell down the street that I have 90 days to replace my roof. As I said, I get the aspect of shared services and shared amenities... but beyond that, go fuck off.
I honestly don't remember, it was my parents issue not mine :lol but just remember my dad being LIVID, obviously. I think they had meetings and votings and whatnot, so it wasn't just a random hammer coming down on you, but I think the community voted to do the fixings and so be it I guess.
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Believe me, Chad, I'm with you, but I'm also the guy that would fix that on my own because I value my investment. Have you ever lived in a neighborhood and there's the one house that looks like it's been abandoned for a decade? Even now, I'm not in an HOA, but my next door neighbor is historically deficient on her lawn mowing, even though she has two able-bodied high school kids living with her. Her garage, which I get to look on, is literally missing two roofing shingles (which are lying in a pile on the ground where they fell... right next to the Adirondack chair that broke and got tossed there in lieu of the new rocking chair she sits in on the porch). Don't get me started; I could get a ban for my feelings on her. Suffice to say, the ONE TIME I saw her do work was shoveling her sidewalk and she would move a foot or so of snow and check her phone. Foot or so of snow... check the phone. Two feet, phone. Foot, phone. Fuck me running. Sometimes I wish for an HOA.
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When a Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev gets his death sentence vacated.
https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/us-appeals-court-vacates-death-sentence-boston-marathon-bomber-dzhokhar-tsarnaev/L55YL6LRFFHP3CCT7TYXWOLY5M/
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Leaving my ROKU Uktra 6.5 hours away at the Air b n b house we just stayed at for a week :censored >:(
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What is a ROKU Uktra?
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What is a ROKU Uktra?
It’s a streaming device....you hook it up to your tv and then subscribe to whichever streaming services you like. It’s like a hub for all your tv viewing
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I got roku in my family Kris Kringle last year and it's been really nice. The basic one, I'd be pissed if i forgot it somewhere, but I haven't really traveled at all this year to want to bring it.
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I'm lost. :lol
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So yesterday, Rob DeLuca, bass player with UFO, took part in a Zoom call. Last week, you could email questions and if picked, you'd get an invite for the call. My question was picked so I was invited to take part.
Unfortunately, we were travelling yesterday when the call was taking place. I haven't watched it yet and won't get a chance until later.
But this was posted along woth the youtube links of the call.
(https://i.imgur.com/gtNaBgR.png)
MY FUCKING NAME IS TIM!!! >:( :censored
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Are you sure? If I were you, I’d just go with it. Which would make your new DTF handle, JAC.
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You have a new name my friend.
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Are you sure? If I were you, I’d just go with it. Which would make your new DTF handle, JAC.
Oh no! :facepalm:
:lol
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Jim is decidedly a cooler name than Tim. Go with it!
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Jim is decidedly a cooler name than Tim. Go with it!
Hey, I've been uncool for a long time. Why stop now?
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Last name OFF?
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Are you sure? If I were you, I’d just go with it. Which would make your new DTF handle, JAC.
Last name OFF?
:rollin
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No, last name Imhoff
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People at the gym who never put anything back when they finish using it. Rack your damned dumbbells you >:( :censored >:(
They're the same idiots who consistently walk around the gym with their face mask down on their chin covering nothing. Humans consistently disappoint me. :facepalm:
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Oh fuck that pisses me off, or people who take 5 different dumbbell weight sets for half an hour.
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Yeah, this enrages me. I’m so glad that I don’t go to a gym anymore, for this very reason. Last facility I went to was the local college. Very good gym, and very inexpensive ($250 for six months). One Sunday morning, I’m the first one in the gym, and dumbbells are racked, but all over the place. 5s are besides 80s, and a bunch aren’t even paired together. I spent almost 10 minutes racking them all properly. It was a pretty decent warmup actually, but yeah, people that don’t re-rack weights (including plates) properly can go fuck a sack of wet mice.
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Man, I'm livid right now. It was a complete shitshow at work today (but actually the whole week) and it'll probably be worse tomorrow.
Last week I was three weeks in working on the current project and on Thursday I was hit with the usual "oh hey Ruslan, drop this project and immediately start working on that one, it's way more urgent". I hate when shit like that happens but over the last few years this has became routine as I usually work fairly quick and if there's anything urgent there's a good chance it'll go to me, okay fine. The new thing is essentially to get the 3D models of parts up to standards as the models were originally done by an outsourced organization and obviously they screwed it up (this has already happened in 2014 with another outsourced organization but I guess our company never learns any lessons); there are a number of comments about stuff that needs to be fixed. By my estimation, the job would take a week to finish and then you've got to get like 20 signatures from all the departments for it to be official. The deadline is Monday. We're "strongly encouraged" to work overtime during working days and also show up on Saturday and Sunday. That's a problem for me because
a) the payment for this is semi-official. There are no official overtime hours after COVID, but we are promised (verbally, not in writing) that we'll be compensated as a bonus. Problem is, I've been shortchanged twice in these 8 years already. I think 4 years ago we had the same kind of vague promise and I had nothing better to do so I worked evenings and weekends for two weeks and got a formal letter of gratitude which also added 500 rubles ($7) to my salary that month. :lol This is still a thing I joke about with my friends. Now, during the COVID lockdown, we had two options, stay at home and do nothing and get our usual monthly salary, or work from home and get 30% more in bonuses (again, nothing in writing). Once again, I had nothing better to do so I worked from home for two weeks and got 2500 rubles ($35!) which was like a 1/5 from what I was promised. After these two instances I'm not working overtime unless the payment is official.
b) I spend 3 hours a day solely on my commute. Those are unpaid, obviously, so I would waste 3 hours of each Saturday and Sunday if I'll show up to work. So well, screw that.
Anyway, I took some shortcuts (approved it with my boss first) and fixed the absolutely essential stuff which would prevent the factory from making the actual parts. The project is done on Monday, I hand it off for the signing, however the quality control folks write me loads of pages with comments about the non-essential stuff (using - instead of —; using x (a letter) instead of × (a multiplication sign), and so on). At this point I'm nearly flipping out. I go to my boss. He says if it's in the standards, we've got to fix it. I warn him it'll take at least a day, most probably even two to fix all the little faults that weren't even mine to begin with. He gives me a green light. Okay. I finish it by Wednesday morning and the project is officially signed yesterday. I go home and grab a beer at the little shop near the train station.
This morning I'm given another project for the same helicopter, it's the whole fucking cargo floor assembly. The previous project was basically one frame (basically part of the fuselage carcass) and it would've taken me a week to do properly. This one with all the parts and minor assembly parts (including the frame I finished) would take me a fucking couple of months. It took me 2 hours to load it on my working PC which is not too shabby. The deadline? Tomorrow. This fucking Friday.
Obviously I raise some strong objections to this which are rebuked with "hey, just line up the crucial, critical stuff and skip the rest. We'll fix it in the next revision". Problem is, it's already revision E (fifth version basically, starting with A) and judging by how fucked up the whole assembly is (rivets are totally fucked up, the parts cut into each other, there are no fucking dimensions whatsoever, literally zero) I can venture a guess that "we'll fix it in the next revision" is a motto for this particular assembly. Another problem is, I hate doing a half-assed job, because it'll be my name on it and the factory will call me about that shit. Another problem is, even if I only do the crucial stuff and skip the rest, it would still take me at least a week or two. Combine this with the fact I'm not working overtime anymore, you get the result. I began to put some dimensions in but the scale of the project is just enormous. I gathered my things and walked out at 4 PM when my working day was over. I don't know what kind of half-assed shit we'll be sending out to the production facility tomorrow if at all, but it's honestly not my problem.
Our company was already a shitshow post-COVID (there's an emergency with the deadlines every week and we're almost always "strongly encouraged" to work overtime), but this takes it to a new fucking level. Come Saturday, I'm heading for a run in the morning, then I'm watching Tenet in the cinema, and then I'm updating my resume and searching for another job.
I couldn't find the work related gripes thread from the first search and that also pissed me off so I'll just post here.
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*makes a mental note to never get into a helicopter from Evermind's company.
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*makes a mental note to never get into a helicopter from Evermind's company.
Absolutely. Would never fly on them myself. Stands to reason our only customers are other third world countries.
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Years ago on this forum I said that the continual assassination of morals could only end up in allowing sex with children, it had nowhere lower to go. Well here’s the first step, in California a 24 yr old can now have sex with a 14 yr old and not be registered as a sex offender. :censored ??? :sadpanda: :omg: :facepalm:
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Fortunately, that seems to be misinformation from (shocking) QAnon people.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/03/fact-check-california-law-does-not-decriminalize-sex-minors/3456171001/
All the bill does is eliminate disparity between sentencing based on sexual orientation. Our morals are safe, for now at least.
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Fortunately, that seems to be misinformation from (shocking) QAnon people.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/03/fact-check-california-law-does-not-decriminalize-sex-minors/3456171001/
All the bill does is eliminate disparity between sentencing based on sexual orientation. Our morals are safe, for now at least.
Well, it's debatable. That's another one of those laws that actually DON'T discriminate, but seem like they do, so they have to be changed. Before the law, if I was a 24 year old male, and I got a beaner from a 16 year old - boy or girl - I had to register to be a sex offender. Regardless. I wasn't treated any differently if I was gay or straight. I suppose the idea is that the law has to make subjective equivalencies between what a "normal" couple would do, which is in effect legislating morals. (If I was a straight male in a relationship that practiced abstinence, I was subject to the same restrictions; no one seemed too bothered by that). Now they just made it so that the judge could at his/her discretion require me to register as a sex offender instead of mandating it. There was no inequity there.
And none of that is necessarily objection to the bill itself; I don't think it's a big deal unless the judges start refusing to grant sex offender status when there's a clear victim. I just sort of half-heartedly object to the description of this as some great stride toward 'equity'.
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Well, I'll admit I haven't read the bill, because I haven't reached the requisite level of self-loathing needed to inflict that kind of thing on myself, but from the article:
Before SB-145, an 18-year-old male convicted of having oral or anal sex with a 17-year-old male would be required to register as a sex offender, while a 24-year-old male convicted of having penile-vaginal sex with a 15-year-old female would not be automatically required to register – it would be left up to the judge.
To me it sounds like same-sex encounters (encounters? is that the right word?) previously automatically triggered the sex offender registration, whereas opposite-sex ones didn't, and the judge could make the decision. Now the judge can make the decision in either case. Am I misreading this?
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It's to protect Young Gay Couples in love that stay together. If one turns 18, and the next day for some reason, got caught doing the nasty, they won't be automatically registered on the Sex Offenders list. While a Straight couple with one that turned 18, and gets caught, doesn't automatically get registered.
It's now up to the judge to determine, as they do a heterosexual couple.
It's the fact it states 14-24 is the range. So technically if a 14 year old consents, it's legal.
So now, it leaves it up to the morality of the judges.
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Well, I'll admit I haven't read the bill, because I haven't reached the requisite level of self-loathing needed to inflict that kind of thing on myself, but from the article:
Before SB-145, an 18-year-old male convicted of having oral or anal sex with a 17-year-old male would be required to register as a sex offender, while a 24-year-old male convicted of having penile-vaginal sex with a 15-year-old female would not be automatically required to register – it would be left up to the judge.
To me it sounds like same-sex encounters (encounters? is that the right word?) previously automatically triggered the sex offender registration, whereas opposite-sex ones didn't, and the judge could make the decision. Now the judge can make the decision in either case. Am I misreading this?
I believe you are. It wasn't at all based on "same sex" or "opposite sex". Unless I misread it - which is entirely possible, as I generally should know better to trust reporters to give the full picture when discussing these interpretations - it was based on the act itself, regardless of who was performing/engaging in it. So, if you put penis into vagina, the judge had an option to require sex offender registration. If it was oral/anal contact, the judge didn't. The sexual preference of the offenders was not a question for the court. This distinction the advocates are relying on revolves around the concept that "for a homosexual couple, that first option wasn't open to them". That may be true, depending how you define "option", but as I noted, if you are a heterosexual couple engaged in abstinence, it wasn't open to you either. Or if you're just one of those people that likes a little spice. Or if you're one of those people that feel "it's not sex if it's in the butt" to claim virginity status.
(And before the argument that "the number of people that abstain is virtually none, I give you this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802108/ Depending on age, the number of people that practice abstinence is anywhere from 5% to 19%. If you figure that the estimated percentage of the population that is homosexual is about 4.5% (https://news.gallup.com/poll/234863/estimate-lgbt-population-rises.aspx), we're in the same ballpark.)
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It's to protect Young Gay Couples in love that stay together. If one turns 18, and the next day for some reason, got caught doing the nasty, they won't be automatically registered on the Sex Offenders list. While a Straight couple with one that turned 18, and gets caught, doesn't automatically get registered.
It's now up to the judge to determine, as they do a heterosexual couple.
It's the fact it states 14-24 is the range. So technically if a 14 year old consents, it's legal.
So now, it leaves it up to the morality of the judges.
But what do you mean by "doing the nasty"? That's the point here. When the offender goes up to the judge - and it's only the older of the two, not both - the judge doesn't ask "WHO did you do it with?", they ask "WHAT did you do, and how old were they?" If I (straight), or Jim J Bullock (I believe him to be openly homosexual), or Kristen Stewart (I believe her to be openly bisexual) go up there, if the act wasn't peen-vag sex, and the other person is of a certain age, BAM! they get status. The question need not arise "what sexual orientation are you?". It's not the morality of the judges at issue here, it's the morality of the voting bloc, because the changes seem to be driven by the idea that "whatever two people do is normal". But we're not talking about two CONSENTING people, because it's presumably addressing the issue of age inequality.
Think about it this way: by this change in the law, a priest that buggers an alter boy of a certain age is no longer subjected to mandatory sex offender status.
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It's to protect Young Gay Couples in love that stay together. If one turns 18, and the next day for some reason, got caught doing the nasty, they won't be automatically registered on the Sex Offenders list. While a Straight couple with one that turned 18, and gets caught, doesn't automatically get registered.
It's now up to the judge to determine, as they do a heterosexual couple.
It's the fact it states 14-24 is the range. So technically if a 14 year old consents, it's legal.
So now, it leaves it up to the morality of the judges.
But what do you mean by "doing the nasty"? That's the point here. When the offender goes up to the judge - and it's only the older of the two, not both - the judge doesn't ask "WHO did you do it with?", they ask "WHAT did you do, and how old were they?" If I (straight), or Jim J Bullock (I believe him to be openly homosexual), or Kristen Stewart (I believe her to be openly bisexual) go up there, if the act wasn't peen-vag sex, and the other person is of a certain age, BAM! they get status. The question need not arise "what sexual orientation are you?". It's not the morality of the judges at issue here, it's the morality of the voting bloc, because the changes seem to be driven by the idea that "whatever two people do is normal". But we're not talking about two CONSENTING people, because it's presumably addressing the issue of age inequality.
Think about it this way: by this change in the law, a priest that buggers an alter boy of a certain age is no longer subjected to mandatory sex offender status.
I mean, sex. But in this case of the Homosexual couple, it's Anal or Oral, it's not homosexual if it involves a penis and a vag.
I agree with your point with the Priest and Alter Boy. That's the crazy part about this.
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It's to protect Young Gay Couples in love that stay together. If one turns 18, and the next day for some reason, got caught doing the nasty, they won't be automatically registered on the Sex Offenders list. While a Straight couple with one that turned 18, and gets caught, doesn't automatically get registered.
It's now up to the judge to determine, as they do a heterosexual couple.
It's the fact it states 14-24 is the range. So technically if a 14 year old consents, it's legal.
So now, it leaves it up to the morality of the judges.
But what do you mean by "doing the nasty"? That's the point here. When the offender goes up to the judge - and it's only the older of the two, not both - the judge doesn't ask "WHO did you do it with?", they ask "WHAT did you do, and how old were they?" If I (straight), or Jim J Bullock (I believe him to be openly homosexual), or Kristen Stewart (I believe her to be openly bisexual) go up there, if the act wasn't peen-vag sex, and the other person is of a certain age, BAM! they get status. The question need not arise "what sexual orientation are you?". It's not the morality of the judges at issue here, it's the morality of the voting bloc, because the changes seem to be driven by the idea that "whatever two people do is normal". But we're not talking about two CONSENTING people, because it's presumably addressing the issue of age inequality.
Think about it this way: by this change in the law, a priest that buggers an alter boy of a certain age is no longer subjected to mandatory sex offender status.
I mean, sex. But in this case of the Homosexual couple, it's Anal or Oral, it's not homosexual if it involves a penis and a vag.
I agree with your point with the Priest and Alter Boy. That's the crazy part about this.
Okay, but it doesn't work the other way. Just because it's oral or anal doesn't make it homosexual. They're punishing the ACT not the ACTOR. I do not for a second believe that being homosexual is a choice - it's not; no more than I have a choice in what I find attractive in a woman - but how I express my sexuality IS a choice. I can see problems in a 24yo - 17 yo relationship regardless of the orientation of the participants. (And don't forget; I actually am in FAVOR of the change myself; I think any time you give the judges a chance to be flexible and adjust to the circumstances, it's for the better provided they act in good faith. I just object to the very specific, and very political, arguments made to effect the change.)
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It's to protect Young Gay Couples in love that stay together. If one turns 18, and the next day for some reason, got caught doing the nasty, they won't be automatically registered on the Sex Offenders list. While a Straight couple with one that turned 18, and gets caught, doesn't automatically get registered.
It's now up to the judge to determine, as they do a heterosexual couple.
It's the fact it states 14-24 is the range. So technically if a 14 year old consents, it's legal.
So now, it leaves it up to the morality of the judges.
But what do you mean by "doing the nasty"? That's the point here. When the offender goes up to the judge - and it's only the older of the two, not both - the judge doesn't ask "WHO did you do it with?", they ask "WHAT did you do, and how old were they?" If I (straight), or Jim J Bullock (I believe him to be openly homosexual), or Kristen Stewart (I believe her to be openly bisexual) go up there, if the act wasn't peen-vag sex, and the other person is of a certain age, BAM! they get status. The question need not arise "what sexual orientation are you?". It's not the morality of the judges at issue here, it's the morality of the voting bloc, because the changes seem to be driven by the idea that "whatever two people do is normal". But we're not talking about two CONSENTING people, because it's presumably addressing the issue of age inequality.
Think about it this way: by this change in the law, a priest that buggers an alter boy of a certain age is no longer subjected to mandatory sex offender status.
I mean, sex. But in this case of the Homosexual couple, it's Anal or Oral, it's not homosexual if it involves a penis and a vag.
I agree with your point with the Priest and Alter Boy. That's the crazy part about this.
Okay, but it doesn't work the other way. Just because it's oral or anal doesn't make it homosexual. They're punishing the ACT not the ACTOR. I do not for a second believe that being homosexual is a choice - it's not; no more than I have a choice in what I find attractive in a woman - but how I express my sexuality IS a choice. I can see problems in a 24yo - 17 yo relationship regardless of the orientation of the participants. (And don't forget; I actually am in FAVOR of the change myself; I think any time you give the judges a chance to be flexible and adjust to the circumstances, it's for the better provided they act in good faith. I just object to the very specific, and very political, arguments made to effect the change.)
Okay. I hear you though and am the same way about the change.
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That's like saying laws against gay marriage aren't discriminatory because straight men aren't allowed to marry other men either, so everyone's being treated the same. It's 'true,' but it's disingenuously true. "Hey guys, you can have all the sex you want, just make sure it's only penises going in vaginas!" HMM WONDER WHAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE. I'm not the foremost authority on gay sex, but I'm at least in the top 10, and there's generally no penis-in-vagina action going on.
I also find the childfucking priest example to be disingenuous. The law as it currently stands allows a (male) teacher to do the same thing with an underage (female) student, and yet no one seems to be upset about this despite heterosexual men far outnumbering non-heterosexual men and the latter example consequently being far more likely than the former. Either the state of California is currently using the (existing) law to allow all sorts of abhorrent degeneracy (possible, I haven't checked, but no one seems to be complaining about that so I find it unlikely), or there's no reason to assume the priest wouldn't immediately be deemed a sex offender by the judge, and gay people being involved is the only reason people are getting upset about this, because... well, I don't really need to say why, do I?
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That's like saying laws against gay marriage aren't discriminatory because straight men aren't allowed to marry other men either, so everyone's being treated the same.
I do believe that argument was made on this very forum in the past.
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I get into work this morning and the building security system is down so all the doors to the secure areas are locked and can't get into making it impossible for me to work... like how does this happen?
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I get into work this morning and the building security system is down so all the doors to the secure areas are locked and can't get into making it impossible for me to work... like how does this happen?
...skynet?
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That's like saying laws against gay marriage aren't discriminatory because straight men aren't allowed to marry other men either, so everyone's being treated the same. It's 'true,' but it's disingenuously true. "Hey guys, you can have all the sex you want, just make sure it's only penises going in vaginas!" HMM WONDER WHAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE. I'm not the foremost authority on gay sex, but I'm at least in the top 10, and there's generally no penis-in-vagina action going on.
I also find the childfucking priest example to be disingenuous. The law as it currently stands allows a (male) teacher to do the same thing with an underage (female) student, and yet no one seems to be upset about this despite heterosexual men far outnumbering non-heterosexual men and the latter example consequently being far more likely than the former. Either the state of California is currently using the (existing) law to allow all sorts of abhorrent degeneracy (possible, I haven't checked, but no one seems to be complaining about that so I find it unlikely), or there's no reason to assume the priest wouldn't immediately be deemed a sex offender by the judge, and gay people being involved is the only reason people are getting upset about this, because... well, I don't really need to say why, do I?
To Adami's point, I've made it (in context, though). They're not EXACTLY the same though.
You're right about your example of teachers; but whether you use priests on one side, or pedophilic teachers on the other, the change in law doesn't address that. That's my main point. I think we ought to be spending more time having a meaningful discussion about what behavior we're trying to drive here. That's a more honest discussion than the one that throws a law up because 'we have to act NOW!' then wall-papering quick fixes because a special interest doesn't like the way it 'appears'. I just don't see how the former makes this about "sexual orientation inequality".
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I mean, it's about sexual orientation inequality because as it stands, an 18 year old gay guy in California could have to register as a sex offender if he and his 17 year old boyfriend do anything other than stare at each other lustfully. If that doesn't register to you as sexual orientation inequality, all I can do is offer you one of these:
(https://i.imgur.com/00acw6e.png)
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I mean, it's about sexual orientation inequality because as it stands, an 18 year old gay guy in California could have to register as a sex offender if he and his 17 year old boyfriend do anything other than stare at each other lustfully. If that doesn't register to you as sexual orientation inequality, all I can do is offer you one of these:
(https://i.imgur.com/00acw6e.png)
Can't see the image, at work.
I disagree. When I was 18, I dated a girl that was 17, though we never had full intercourse. As it stands, all the sex I had with her would have qualified me for sex offender status, no questions asked. Since I wasn't then and am not now a homosexual, and yet my penalties would have been exactly the same, I do not see that as sexual orientation inequality.
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Yeah, this is just the 'straight men can't marry each other!!' argument wearing a different coat. 'Sure you can have sex, as long as it's the type your orientation precludes you from having' isn't discrimination, neato. Frankly I find that assertion deeply offensive, but on the other hand my interest in debating this has dwindled to nothing, so whatever, I guess.
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Yeah, this is just the 'straight men can't marry each other!!' argument wearing a different coat. 'Sure you can have sex, as long as it's the type your orientation precludes you from having' isn't discrimination, neato. Frankly I find that assertion deeply offensive, but on the other hand my interest in debating this has dwindled to nothing, so whatever, I guess.
Well, it's kind of not cool to hit-and-run with a falsely presented the argument and then say "I'm bored, bye!". I am reading the plain language of the law as indicated in the document. If you want to read things into it, that's on you. But it's problematic to do that, to read things into it, THEN holding me to that arbitrary reading. I don't know nor care what the assumptions are about the sex lives of the people of California, and neither does the law. I just know this: if a person does x, they get punished, and nothing in that logical statement includes a variable for "sexual orientation". The rest is on you.
(Interestingly, I've done a little research (https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Keeping-gay-men-off-California-s-sex-offender-13826028.php). The origin of the Sex Offender Registry was to target the Mob, back in the '30's. It was (ab)used in the 50's with respect to LGBTQ people, but the law was changed in the 70's to decriminalize certain acts between adults, but the restrictions were kept vis-a-vis minors. The California courts upheld the peen-vag distinction in 2015, on the sole grounds that it would harm any potential children if the fathers were automatically forced to register as a sex offender (jobs). It has nothing to do with orientation. I also found out that out of the roughly 100,000 people on the California Sex Offender registry, only about 2,400 (plus/minus a couple hundred) are on there for this issue; even if EVERY ONE of them is a LGBT teen, that certainly does not amount to "targeting"; if anything the LGBT community is LESS likely to be on the list than a straight offender.)
I'm actually rather liberal in terms of my identity politics positions; I just happen to also hold the view that sloppiness in interpreting laws (and making assumptions that others perhaps do not hold) is a deep problem in our country right now. You'd think that if we (general) learned anything over the past four years, it's that "sloppiness" in our governance is a big problem. The data does not support the position that this is "fixing" inequity. To get a law passed on those grounds - with arguments like yours, that to oppose them is "offensive" - is a big problem.
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Wow... no one's been pissed off in the last 4 months?!?!? Well, "pissed off" is too strong for this topic, but "mildly irritated" isn't strong enough.
I like following this page/site "Yup That Exists". There's some really cool and neat things that pop up. This ain't one of them.
(https://scontent.fybz2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/142603886_3218054361629204_9079218387173605058_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ewg1PycITfgAX-Wmgq1&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-1.fna&oh=98c5f43ad5e40f85d35cb4cbe0f3dcb7&oe=6036A705)
The comments ::) ... this one got me - "yeah and it's not just a trans/gender neutral thing as well, It's also the fact that traditional decks of cards are really patriarcal (sic) since the queen is always weaker than the king."
Are you fucking kidding me? What's next, renaming chess sets - oh wait, the Queen is stronger than the King. Fucking "woke snowflakes".
ALL PRECIOUS METALS MATTER!
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Wow... no one's been pissed off in the last 4 months?!?!? Well, "pissed off" is too strong for this topic, but "mildly irritated" isn't strong enough.
I like following this page/site "Yup That Exists". There's some really cool and neat things that pop up. This ain't one of them.
(https://scontent.fybz2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/142603886_3218054361629204_9079218387173605058_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ewg1PycITfgAX-Wmgq1&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-1.fna&oh=98c5f43ad5e40f85d35cb4cbe0f3dcb7&oe=6036A705)
The comments ::) ... this one got me - "yeah and it's not just a trans/gender neutral thing as well, It's also the fact that traditional decks of cards are really patriarcal (sic) since the queen is always weaker than the king."
Are you fucking kidding me? What's next, renaming chess sets - oh wait, the Queen is stronger than the King. Fucking "woke snowflakes".
ALL PRECIOUS METALS MATTER!
Oh FFS!
It must be very proud of its creation.
A mildly amusing video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAMyMdPjGeo
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We need to liberate the 1's.
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As a Bronze, I'm deeply, DEEPLY offended.
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As a Bronze, I'm deeply, DEEPLY offended.
I too am a Bronze, but I self-identify as a Gold. This is our safe space. :biggrin:
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What about the joker?
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So that No One is excluded. The Ace is now 0(Zero). :biggrin:
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Those cards are a lame idea but not surprising. Is there any chance it's a joke?
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Are you fucking kidding me? What's next, renaming chess sets - oh wait, the Queen is stronger than the King. Fucking "woke snowflakes".
ALL PRECIOUS METALS MATTER!
Nice.
I could never follow that group, I would jump out a window in a matter of days.
I hate all this "woke" shit and the worst part is that you think it can't get any lamer and it always does.
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Are you fucking kidding me? What's next, renaming chess sets - oh wait, the Queen is stronger than the King. Fucking "woke snowflakes".
ALL PRECIOUS METALS MATTER!
Nice.
I could never follow that group, I would jump out a window in a matter of days.
I hate all this "woke" shit and the worst part is that you think it can't get any lamer and it always does.
It's actually usually really cool shit, like scientific breakthroughs, space stuff, cool planetary discoveries. This is actually the first time I've ever seen something full of so much BS there.
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So that No One is excluded. The Ace is now 0(Zero). :biggrin:
Gene and Paul have been saying that for years. ;)
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So that No One is excluded. The Ace is now 0(Zero). :biggrin:
Gene and Paul have been saying that for years. ;)
(https://gifs.joelglovier.com/clap/picard-slow-clap.gif)
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So that No One is excluded. The Ace is now 0(Zero). :biggrin:
Feels excluded...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iu0HEFGMtKc/maxresdefault.jpg)
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So that No One is excluded. The Ace is now 0(Zero). :biggrin:
Gene and Paul have been saying that for years. ;)
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Do the numbered cards still have different values? If so, that's perpetuating numeric inequality.
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What pissed you off today?
*deeeeep breatthhhhhhh* :angry: :angry: :angry:
Nah just kidding. love you. x
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Do the numbered cards still have different values? If so, that's perpetuating numeric inequality.
OMG MAKE IT STOP! This doesn't even seem unbelievable these days.
Did you hear the one where they don't allow parents to buy school supplies outside of the school? They *must* buy them from the school so that every kid has the same ones and not some fancy-shmancy brand-name ones that may make other kids feel inferior/poor/etc. Like if you have Elmer's glue you're automatically better than anyone using Great Value glue.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Do the numbered cards still have different values? If so, that's perpetuating numeric inequality.
OMG MAKE IT STOP! This doesn't even seem unbelievable these days.
Did you hear the one where they don't allow parents to buy school supplies outside of the school? They *must* buy them from the school so that every kid has the same ones and not some fancy-shmancy brand-name ones that may make other kids feel inferior/poor/etc. Like if you have Elmer's glue you're automatically better than anyone using Great Value glue.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
That kind of stuff drives me crazy. It's not making everyone BETTER, it's dumbing everyone down to the same level.
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That's stupid as hell. They're robbing parents of a chance to teach their kid a valuable life lesson. If Billy comes home sobbing about having generic school supplies you give him an age appropriate lesson on budgets, spending priorities, and the fact that generic products are nearly always as good as the name brand ones.
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Did you hear the one where they don't allow parents to buy school supplies outside of the school? They *must* buy them from the school so that every kid has the same ones and not some fancy-shmancy brand-name ones that may make other kids feel inferior/poor/etc. Like if you have Elmer's glue you're automatically better than anyone using Great Value glue.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Schools in my area have "kits" available, but you're not obligated to buy them, and the purpose is to make it easier for the parents. That's just nuts.
That kind of stuff drives me crazy. It's not making everyone BETTER, it's dumbing everyone down to the same level.
(https://scatteredquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/TheIncredibles-2.jpg)
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What about the joker?
It invented the deck.
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I think the cards are cool and would totally buy a deck if shipping was less. And if I had people to play cards with. :P
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I think the cards are neat. You may not be bothered that they are, but French suited playing cards ARE patriarchal. And you aren't required to use these new ones.
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I think the cards are neat. You may not be bothered that they are, but French suited playing cards ARE patriarchal. And you aren't required to use these new ones.
Never say never - I know there are practical exceptions - but I'm always leery when things are just assumed to be "bad" just because. You say "patriarchal" in a way that implies that. There IS an order to many things in life, and to act or teach that there isn't giving our kids the full measure of what life is like. Whether it's something basic like the food chain, or something more of a construct like the hierarchy at work... it's not the foundation for a healthy world view IMO.
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I think the cards are neat. You may not be bothered that they are, but French suited playing cards ARE patriarchal. And you aren't required to use these new ones.
Never say never - I know there are practical exceptions - but I'm always leery when things are just assumed to be "bad" just because. You say "patriarchal" in a way that implies that. There IS an order to many things in life, and to act or teach that there isn't giving our kids the full measure of what life is like. Whether it's something basic like the food chain, or something more of a construct like the hierarchy at work... it's not the foundation for a healthy world view IMO.
A deck of cards isn't lying to kids. The creator isn't trying to deny that there is or was patriarchy, but rather to change one element so it no longer is patriarchal. Maybe this will go nowhere other than to the people who have already bought it. Maybe in a few centuries everyone will be using non-patriarchal cards. Doesn't mean history will no longer be taught. But maybe it will be one less little thing girls have to accept as "just the way it is."
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I think the cards are neat. You may not be bothered that they are, but French suited playing cards ARE patriarchal. And you aren't required to use these new ones.
Never say never - I know there are practical exceptions - but I'm always leery when things are just assumed to be "bad" just because. You say "patriarchal" in a way that implies that. There IS an order to many things in life, and to act or teach that there isn't giving our kids the full measure of what life is like. Whether it's something basic like the food chain, or something more of a construct like the hierarchy at work... it's not the foundation for a healthy world view IMO.
This is probably gonna veer into P/R territory so if you wish to continue this line of discussion I suggest we take it over there?
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HAHA, I just wrote a reply and as I hit "post" yours came up; my first line was "It's another discussion for another thread, I suppose..."
It's up to Lethean.
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Just trying to keep the peace. :P
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It's not up to me. If you'd rather move it there, or the rules say it's necessary, I don't have a problem with that. I probably won't have much time to respond today whether it's here or there, but that doesn't mean you two can't.
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The patriarchy isn't assumed bad "just because."
The patriarchy is not a universal constant that is necessary for society to thrive. Why you would compare men being in control and superior to a general concept of hierarchy in certain circumstances is odd, unless you really do think men are and should be at the top which I doubt you do.
So being anti-patriarchy isn't some form of anarchy that seeks to eliminate all forms of order and establish unbridled chaos. But for anyone who isn't a man that enjoys it, the patriarchy IS a pretty bad thing, just like a matriarchy would be.
Also it's a god damn novelty card set. Why are we caring so much? Why do we feel so threatened? No one's dicks are shrinking in size because someone made a novelty card set.
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Why don't we all settle on a neutral hierarchy where we can all agree that one is clearly superior to the other:
Jack -> New York Yankees
Queen -> Chicago Cubs
King ->Tampa Bay Rays
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The patriarchy isn't assumed bad "just because."
The patriarchy is not a universal constant that is necessary for society to thrive. Why you would compare men being in control and superior to a general concept of hierarchy in certain circumstances is odd, unless you really do think men are and should be at the top which I doubt you do.
So being anti-patriarchy isn't some form of anarchy that seeks to eliminate all forms of order and establish unbridled chaos. But for anyone who isn't a man that enjoys it, the patriarchy IS a pretty bad thing, just like a matriarchy would be.
Well, perhaps I'm being less formal with the notion of "patriarchy"; I'm not looking at it as strictly "male dominated"; the Queen is, in fact, the second or third most powerful card in any deck (and in some games, THE most powerful). I'm looking at this as more of a hierarchical construct, and learning to accept that even if it's populated in ways that can be miscontrued or interpreted. In other words, we live in a hierarchical society, and wishing away those moments in time where a man sits at the apex - not necessarily a true "patriarchy" - isn't productive.
Also it's a god damn novelty card set. Why are we caring so much? Why do we feel so threatened? No one's dicks are shrinking in size because someone made a novelty card set.
My dick is fine, thanks for asking. :-*; for me, it's less about "cards" and more an intellectual discussion on the merits of these endeavors generally. I frankly don't care about the cards themselves at all, just the reaction TO the cards.
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If you feel like hearing "Patriarchy is bad" and translating it as "all hierarchies are bad" then you are just simply wrong. And the Queen being the 2nd or 3rd most powerful is kind of the point.
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My ears are burning.
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If you feel like hearing "Patriarchy is bad" and translating it as "all hierarchies are bad" then you are just simply wrong. And the Queen being the 2nd or 3rd most powerful is kind of the point.
Good thing I'm not doing that, then. I'M not saying all hierarchies are bad; kind of the opposite.
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If you feel like hearing "Patriarchy is bad" and translating it as "all hierarchies are bad" then you are just simply wrong. And the Queen being the 2nd or 3rd most powerful is kind of the point.
Good thing I'm not doing that, then. I'M not saying all hierarchies are bad; kind of the opposite.
That is my point. You're talking about all hierarchies. The card person is talking about a patriarchy only. By changing it to something SO broad, you're dismissing the point. Which, disagree with it or not, has merit.
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To be clear, between the image I first posted, and the link that pg posted, this girl didn't come up with this concept over a patriarchal issue. It was for a (perceived) gender-equality issue. The part that "pissed" me off (again, too strong.. but mildly annoyed isn't strong enough) is the 'wokeness' of people that are looking for a problem where none exists. Are girls around the world that play cards realizing that they Jack/Queen/King structure of a deck of cards is something that is suppressing them, and reinforcing gender stereotypes and societal hierarchy of men v women? That the Queen has a glass ceiling that she can't break thru? Like, c'mon.
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To be clear, between the image I first posted, and the link that pg posted, this girl didn't come up with this concept over a patriarchal issue. It was for a (perceived) gender-equality issue. The part that "pissed" me off (again, too strong.. but mildly annoyed isn't strong enough) is the 'wokeness' of people that are looking for a problem where none exists. Are girls around the world that play cards realizing that they Jack/Queen/King structure of a deck of cards is something that is suppressing them, and reinforcing gender stereotypes and societal hierarchy of men v women? That the Queen has a glass ceiling that she can't break thru? Like, c'mon.
I get that. To answer your question......I assume at least one felt that way? And beyond the creator, at least enough people to keep it in some kind of business. Probably not a ton though.
I agree, totally agree, that it's silly. That this is so far away from the ACTUAL problems they're trying to address that it's....well...silly. However, for most of us, we lack any real power. So a lot of people who feel powerless want to try to find some way to help. Even if that way isn't really helping at all, but just being....silly.
If it gets to the point where casinos feel the need to replace their cards with these or things are being pushed very hard to replace traditional cards, I'll be more annoyed then. But right now, as silly as it is, and boy is it, the simple act of making it available and nothing else doesn't seem to be a reason to be too terribly annoyed. I'm sure somewhere they're doing all female renditions of 12 Angry People. I saw a (very good actually) all black rendition of Much Ado About Nothing on PBS. I'm pretty positive there's a completely LGTB rendition of West Side Story being done somewhere. As of now, it's just a chance for people who DO feel opressed to voice that in someway without altering the world for the rest of us. If I want to watch 12 Angry Men, I have 2 fantastic versions readily available (well, one is admittedly more difficult to find). I can very easily find a traditional Much Ado About Nothing, and if I want to watch West Side Story, the original is always available. Similarly, if I go to literally any business that sells cards, I will see traditional cards and will likely never see these. So I just say "huh, that's unique" and move on, if it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't impact me at all, but maybe it makes a few people feel better.
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To be clear, between the image I first posted, and the link that pg posted, this girl didn't come up with this concept over a patriarchal issue. It was for a (perceived) gender-equality issue. The part that "pissed" me off (again, too strong.. but mildly annoyed isn't strong enough) is the 'wokeness' of people that are looking for a problem where none exists. Are girls around the world that play cards realizing that they Jack/Queen/King structure of a deck of cards is something that is suppressing them, and reinforcing gender stereotypes and societal hierarchy of men v women? That the Queen has a glass ceiling that she can't break thru? Like, c'mon.
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Here's the thing: if playing cards had (Ace), Queen, Knave, Lady in Waiting, absolutely no one would give a shit. What's next? Are we going to start re-writing Shakespeare in the interest of "gender equality."
Are you sad that you don't feel special (said rhetorically and not to anyone in particular)? Too damn bad.
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To be clear, between the image I first posted, and the link that pg posted, this girl didn't come up with this concept over a patriarchal issue. It was for a (perceived) gender-equality issue. The part that "pissed" me off (again, too strong.. but mildly annoyed isn't strong enough) is the 'wokeness' of people that are looking for a problem where none exists. Are girls around the world that play cards realizing that they Jack/Queen/King structure of a deck of cards is something that is suppressing them, and reinforcing gender stereotypes and societal hierarchy of men v women? That the Queen has a glass ceiling that she can't break thru? Like, c'mon.
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Here's the thing: if playing cards had (Ace), Queen, Knave, Lady in Waiting, absolutely no one would give a shit. What's next? Are we going to start re-writing Shakespeare in the interest of "gender equality."
Are you sad that you don't feel special (said rhetorically and not to anyone in particular)? Too damn bad.
This kind of response doesn't seem too helpful either.
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To be clear, between the image I first posted, and the link that pg posted, this girl didn't come up with this concept over a patriarchal issue. It was for a (perceived) gender-equality issue. The part that "pissed" me off (again, too strong.. but mildly annoyed isn't strong enough) is the 'wokeness' of people that are looking for a problem where none exists. Are girls around the world that play cards realizing that they Jack/Queen/King structure of a deck of cards is something that is suppressing them, and reinforcing gender stereotypes and societal hierarchy of men v women? That the Queen has a glass ceiling that she can't break thru? Like, c'mon.
I get that. To answer your question......I assume at least one felt that way? And beyond the creator, at least enough people to keep it in some kind of business. Probably not a ton though.
I agree, totally agree, that it's silly. That this is so far away from the ACTUAL problems they're trying to address that it's....well...silly. However, for most of us, we lack any real power. So a lot of people who feel powerless want to try to find some way to help. Even if that way isn't really helping at all, but just being....silly.
If it gets to the point where casinos feel the need to replace their cards with these or things are being pushed very hard to replace traditional cards, I'll be more annoyed then. But right now, as silly as it is, and boy is it, the simple act of making it available and nothing else doesn't seem to be a reason to be too terribly annoyed. I'm sure somewhere they're doing all female renditions of 12 Angry People. I saw a (very good actually) all black rendition of Much Ado About Nothing on PBS. I'm pretty positive there's a completely LGTB rendition of West Side Story being done somewhere. As of now, it's just a chance for people who DO feel opressed to voice that in someway without altering the world for the rest of us. If I want to watch 12 Angry Men, I have 2 fantastic versions readily available (well, one is admittedly more difficult to find). I can very easily find a traditional Much Ado About Nothing, and if I want to watch West Side Story, the original is always available. Similarly, if I go to literally any business that sells cards, I will see traditional cards and will likely never see these. So I just say "huh, that's unique" and move on, if it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't impact me at all, but maybe it makes a few people feel better.
I mostly agree with Adami. I perhaps don't think it's quite as silly. I mean, it is silly in a way. You could rightly say that there are much more important things to think about and better things to spend your time on than decks of cards. But... There are a lot of things we all care about that are probably quite silly - a lot sillier than this. A lot of things we spend our time on when we could be doing something more important. This is something she cares about, it was within her power to create it, so she did. I think it's cool and I'd be happy to see it take off. If it did, does that mean all our gender issues would magically be resolved? Of course not. The cards aren't, as jingle says above, suppressing anyone. But do they contribute to/reinforce stereotypes? I think they probably do. In a small subtle way. It's one of those things that on it's own, doesn't mean much. But it's never just one thing. It's cumulative. So if someone wants to create a pack of cards as their small way of making a change, great. If people buy said cards, great. I think it's far sillier to spend time getting angry about the cards existing than to have spent time creating them.
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If it gets to the point where casinos feel the need to replace their cards with these or things are being pushed very hard to replace traditional cards, I'll be more annoyed then. But right now, as silly as it is, and boy is it, the simple act of making it available and nothing else doesn't seem to be a reason to be too terribly annoyed. I'm sure somewhere they're doing all female renditions of 12 Angry People. I saw a (very good actually) all black rendition of Much Ado About Nothing on PBS. I'm pretty positive there's a completely LGTB rendition of West Side Story being done somewhere. As of now, it's just a chance for people who DO feel opressed to voice that in someway without altering the world for the rest of us. If I want to watch 12 Angry Men, I have 2 fantastic versions readily available (well, one is admittedly more difficult to find). I can very easily find a traditional Much Ado About Nothing, and if I want to watch West Side Story, the original is always available. Similarly, if I go to literally any business that sells cards, I will see traditional cards and will likely never see these. So I just say "huh, that's unique" and move on, if it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't impact me at all, but maybe it makes a few people feel better.
I had a pretty intense conversation with my daughter on this; she's... I wouldn't say "woke", but she's very aware, and while she's my kid, she's done a phenomenal job of integrating these concepts into her daily life. She would never look at the cards and say "my goodness, why isn't the Queen of equal or higher value to the King?!!?" But she would say "hey, I get you're "raising awareness", but that's just not enough if you're looking to move the needle."
Increasingly, the alternatives aren't available, or they're available with caveat or at cost. And when that happens, whether someone "feels better" or not isn't really the point anymore. That's when we move from "The Wiz" - a pleasant and creative idea that didn't change cultures or mindsets - to (and I'm not talking about identity politics issues here) Star Wars, where an entire generation is getting a warped view of history through the eyes of a very small group, if not an individual person. There is power in truth, and as a result people are scared of it (across the spectrum).
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If it gets to the point where casinos feel the need to replace their cards with these or things are being pushed very hard to replace traditional cards, I'll be more annoyed then. But right now, as silly as it is, and boy is it, the simple act of making it available and nothing else doesn't seem to be a reason to be too terribly annoyed. I'm sure somewhere they're doing all female renditions of 12 Angry People. I saw a (very good actually) all black rendition of Much Ado About Nothing on PBS. I'm pretty positive there's a completely LGTB rendition of West Side Story being done somewhere. As of now, it's just a chance for people who DO feel opressed to voice that in someway without altering the world for the rest of us. If I want to watch 12 Angry Men, I have 2 fantastic versions readily available (well, one is admittedly more difficult to find). I can very easily find a traditional Much Ado About Nothing, and if I want to watch West Side Story, the original is always available. Similarly, if I go to literally any business that sells cards, I will see traditional cards and will likely never see these. So I just say "huh, that's unique" and move on, if it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't impact me at all, but maybe it makes a few people feel better.
I had a pretty intense conversation with my daughter on this; she's... I wouldn't say "woke", but she's very aware, and while she's my kid, she's done a phenomenal job of integrating these concepts into her daily life. She would never look at the cards and say "my goodness, why isn't the Queen of equal or higher value to the King?!!?" But she would say "hey, I get you're "raising awareness", but that's just not enough if you're looking to move the needle."
Increasingly, the alternatives aren't available, or they're available with caveat or at cost. And when that happens, whether someone "feels better" or not isn't really the point anymore. That's when we move from "The Wiz" - a pleasant and creative idea that didn't change cultures or mindsets - to (and I'm not talking about identity politics issues here) Star Wars, where an entire generation is getting a warped view of history through the eyes of a very small group, if not an individual person. There is power in truth, and as a result people are scared of it (across the spectrum).
I'll be honest, I really didn't follow your second paragraph. I think I addressed your main point in your first paragraph, but I'm lost on your second one. Is it just "feeling better isn't important"? I'd appreciate a take two.
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To be clear, between the image I first posted, and the link that pg posted, this girl didn't come up with this concept over a patriarchal issue. It was for a (perceived) gender-equality issue. The part that "pissed" me off (again, too strong.. but mildly annoyed isn't strong enough) is the 'wokeness' of people that are looking for a problem where none exists. Are girls around the world that play cards realizing that they Jack/Queen/King structure of a deck of cards is something that is suppressing them, and reinforcing gender stereotypes and societal hierarchy of men v women? That the Queen has a glass ceiling that she can't break thru? Like, c'mon.
I get that. To answer your question......I assume at least one felt that way? And beyond the creator, at least enough people to keep it in some kind of business. Probably not a ton though.
I agree, totally agree, that it's silly. That this is so far away from the ACTUAL problems they're trying to address that it's....well...silly. However, for most of us, we lack any real power. So a lot of people who feel powerless want to try to find some way to help. Even if that way isn't really helping at all, but just being....silly.
If it gets to the point where casinos feel the need to replace their cards with these or things are being pushed very hard to replace traditional cards, I'll be more annoyed then. But right now, as silly as it is, and boy is it, the simple act of making it available and nothing else doesn't seem to be a reason to be too terribly annoyed. I'm sure somewhere they're doing all female renditions of 12 Angry People. I saw a (very good actually) all black rendition of Much Ado About Nothing on PBS. I'm pretty positive there's a completely LGTB rendition of West Side Story being done somewhere. As of now, it's just a chance for people who DO feel opressed to voice that in someway without altering the world for the rest of us. If I want to watch 12 Angry Men, I have 2 fantastic versions readily available (well, one is admittedly more difficult to find). I can very easily find a traditional Much Ado About Nothing, and if I want to watch West Side Story, the original is always available. Similarly, if I go to literally any business that sells cards, I will see traditional cards and will likely never see these. So I just say "huh, that's unique" and move on, if it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't impact me at all, but maybe it makes a few people feel better.
I mostly agree with Adami. I perhaps don't think it's quite as silly. I mean, it is silly in a way. You could rightly say that there are much more important things to think about and better things to spend your time on than decks of cards. But... There are a lot of things we all care about that are probably quite silly - a lot sillier than this. A lot of things we spend our time on when we could be doing something more important. This is something she cares about, it was within her power to create it, so she did. I think it's cool and I'd be happy to see it take off. If it did, does that mean all our gender issues would magically be resolved? Of course not. The cards aren't, as jingle says above, suppressing anyone. But do they contribute to/reinforce stereotypes? I think they probably do. In a small subtle way. It's one of those things that on it's own, doesn't mean much. But it's never just one thing. It's cumulative. So if someone wants to create a pack of cards as their small way of making a change, great. If people buy said cards, great. I think it's far sillier to spend time getting angry about the cards existing than to have spent time creating them.
That's all true, and if it was that benign, I'd be in full agreement. Too often, though, it doesn't stop there. How long before those decks swap out cards at schools. Or in casinos. Then, of course, there's the next step, where those that "don't care" that "don't use them" are judged for such. We're already there. I had a conversation with someone in PM about this vis-a-vis Trump. As bad as Jan. 6th was, the narrative moved very quickly to delineate two camps: those that accept Biden unequivocally, and the "unhinged", "domestic terrorists". You make it sound like a choice, and there is no choice. Not today, not for someone that isn't interested in being a meme, or becoming a cause celebre.
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Stads, you're sounding kind of ....not rational...there.
Some person creates a deck of cards that I have not heard about anywhere other than DTF and suddenly you're a terrorist if you don't blindly support it? Come on man.
Do I get to say the same thing if someone creates a Trump deck of cards? Or a Christian themed one?
Take it easy man. People are allowed to make a novelty card deck. No one's changing the world and fighting against THAT is just getting a bit.....irrational.
The world is fine. The traditional cards aren't going anywhere. You're not a nazi or terrorist or whatever. It's fine.
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To be clear, between the image I first posted, and the link that pg posted, this girl didn't come up with this concept over a patriarchal issue. It was for a (perceived) gender-equality issue. The part that "pissed" me off (again, too strong.. but mildly annoyed isn't strong enough) is the 'wokeness' of people that are looking for a problem where none exists. Are girls around the world that play cards realizing that they Jack/Queen/King structure of a deck of cards is something that is suppressing them, and reinforcing gender stereotypes and societal hierarchy of men v women? That the Queen has a glass ceiling that she can't break thru? Like, c'mon.
I get that. To answer your question......I assume at least one felt that way? And beyond the creator, at least enough people to keep it in some kind of business. Probably not a ton though.
I agree, totally agree, that it's silly. That this is so far away from the ACTUAL problems they're trying to address that it's....well...silly. However, for most of us, we lack any real power. So a lot of people who feel powerless want to try to find some way to help. Even if that way isn't really helping at all, but just being....silly.
If it gets to the point where casinos feel the need to replace their cards with these or things are being pushed very hard to replace traditional cards, I'll be more annoyed then. But right now, as silly as it is, and boy is it, the simple act of making it available and nothing else doesn't seem to be a reason to be too terribly annoyed. I'm sure somewhere they're doing all female renditions of 12 Angry People. I saw a (very good actually) all black rendition of Much Ado About Nothing on PBS. I'm pretty positive there's a completely LGTB rendition of West Side Story being done somewhere. As of now, it's just a chance for people who DO feel opressed to voice that in someway without altering the world for the rest of us. If I want to watch 12 Angry Men, I have 2 fantastic versions readily available (well, one is admittedly more difficult to find). I can very easily find a traditional Much Ado About Nothing, and if I want to watch West Side Story, the original is always available. Similarly, if I go to literally any business that sells cards, I will see traditional cards and will likely never see these. So I just say "huh, that's unique" and move on, if it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't impact me at all, but maybe it makes a few people feel better.
I mostly agree with Adami. I perhaps don't think it's quite as silly. I mean, it is silly in a way. You could rightly say that there are much more important things to think about and better things to spend your time on than decks of cards. But... There are a lot of things we all care about that are probably quite silly - a lot sillier than this. A lot of things we spend our time on when we could be doing something more important. This is something she cares about, it was within her power to create it, so she did. I think it's cool and I'd be happy to see it take off. If it did, does that mean all our gender issues would magically be resolved? Of course not. The cards aren't, as jingle says above, suppressing anyone. But do they contribute to/reinforce stereotypes? I think they probably do. In a small subtle way. It's one of those things that on it's own, doesn't mean much. But it's never just one thing. It's cumulative. So if someone wants to create a pack of cards as their small way of making a change, great. If people buy said cards, great. I think it's far sillier to spend time getting angry about the cards existing than to have spent time creating them.
That's all true, and if it was that benign, I'd be in full agreement. Too often, though, it doesn't stop there. How long before those decks swap out cards at schools. Or in casinos. Then, of course, there's the next step, where those that "don't care" that "don't use them" are judged for such. We're already there. I had a conversation with someone in PM about this vis-a-vis Trump. As bad as Jan. 6th was, the narrative moved very quickly to delineate two camps: those that accept Biden unequivocally, and the "unhinged", "domestic terrorists". You make it sound like a choice, and there is no choice. Not today, not for someone that isn't interested in being a meme, or becoming a cause celebre.
But to my thinking - if it *does* swap out cards in schools and casinos - that's a good thing. The world isn't a worse place for it. Maybe it's a slightly better place for girls. And if other things like that are done as well, even better.
Adami is right - right now these are novelty cards. Nothing is actually happening. But if it did - it doesn't hurt you.
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If it gets to the point where casinos feel the need to replace their cards with these or things are being pushed very hard to replace traditional cards, I'll be more annoyed then. But right now, as silly as it is, and boy is it, the simple act of making it available and nothing else doesn't seem to be a reason to be too terribly annoyed. I'm sure somewhere they're doing all female renditions of 12 Angry People. I saw a (very good actually) all black rendition of Much Ado About Nothing on PBS. I'm pretty positive there's a completely LGTB rendition of West Side Story being done somewhere. As of now, it's just a chance for people who DO feel opressed to voice that in someway without altering the world for the rest of us. If I want to watch 12 Angry Men, I have 2 fantastic versions readily available (well, one is admittedly more difficult to find). I can very easily find a traditional Much Ado About Nothing, and if I want to watch West Side Story, the original is always available. Similarly, if I go to literally any business that sells cards, I will see traditional cards and will likely never see these. So I just say "huh, that's unique" and move on, if it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't impact me at all, but maybe it makes a few people feel better.
I had a pretty intense conversation with my daughter on this; she's... I wouldn't say "woke", but she's very aware, and while she's my kid, she's done a phenomenal job of integrating these concepts into her daily life. She would never look at the cards and say "my goodness, why isn't the Queen of equal or higher value to the King?!!?" But she would say "hey, I get you're "raising awareness", but that's just not enough if you're looking to move the needle."
Increasingly, the alternatives aren't available, or they're available with caveat or at cost. And when that happens, whether someone "feels better" or not isn't really the point anymore. That's when we move from "The Wiz" - a pleasant and creative idea that didn't change cultures or mindsets - to (and I'm not talking about identity politics issues here) Star Wars, where an entire generation is getting a warped view of history through the eyes of a very small group, if not an individual person. There is power in truth, and as a result people are scared of it (across the spectrum).
I'll be honest, I really didn't follow your second paragraph. I think I addressed your main point in your first paragraph, but I'm lost on your second one. Is it just "feeling better isn't important"? I'd appreciate a take two.
I think I answered it better to Lethean. I think you're taking for granted that those alternatives are there and always will be. We have the new versions of the Our Gang/Little Rascals troupe (there are two movies I think) and they all lead us conclusively to the (right) conclusion that there is no place for "He-Man Woman Hater's Club"'s in today's society, but we don't have the originals, at least not in unedited form.
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I dunno dude. Sometimes that's progress. Sometimes it's not.
You know I disagree with censorship (or at least I've made it quite clear) but change isn't censorship. If having traditional playing cards becomes illegal or can land you in some sort of legal trouble or make you fear for your life/safety, we'll talk. Other than that, it's just change.
I'll also point out that, as far as I know, despite all the whining and complaining and k'vetching by the more fragile people out there, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer is still readily available and hasn't been replaced by a "woke" version. All of that doomsday talk was for naught.
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Stads, you're sounding kind of ....not rational...there.
Some person creates a deck of cards that I have not heard about anywhere other than DTF and suddenly you're a terrorist if you don't blindly support it? Come on man.
Do I get to say the same thing if someone creates a Trump deck of cards? Or a Christian themed one?
Take it easy man. People are allowed to make a novelty card deck. No one's changing the world and fighting against THAT is just getting a bit.....irrational.
The world is fine. The traditional cards aren't going anywhere. You're not a nazi or terrorist or whatever. It's fine.
You and Lethean seem to be moving the bar, and ignoring the parts that are relevant in doing so. I've already said I agree IF it's just a novelty card issue. I don't give a rat's ass about the cards generally, and I agree it's a silly thing in and of itself. I'm saying though, that the world is anything but "fine" and I'm not necessarily taking for granted that the traditional cards aren't going anywhere. These things tend to get a life of their own. Look what Lethean said: so what if it does, it "doesn't hurt me". One, you don't get to decide what "hurts me" any more than I can tell someone else what "offends them", but even if it doesn't hurt me - and no, it doesn't hurt ME, personally - but it's generally not benign, and it does hurt, all of us, when the narrative starts to carry judgment. You guys are all good, because you're all firmly on the right side of history, but for those that are perhaps more in that gray area that seems to be dwindling like the Brazilian rain forest, it's not so clear.
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Just sounds like, IF that were to happen, which it won't, it's something you don't personally like.
Tough. You don't get to like everything that happens. Sometimes change means something you don't agree with. Sometimes it means something I don't agree with. If you feel very passionately about putting traditional cards back in casinos and schools (why are they in schools?) in this fictional reality where the woke crowd has risen up and taken over the world, then fight for it.
I don't like having bibles in hotels. Tough for me.
I don't like lots of different changes that happen. Sucks for me. If I cared enough, I'd fight for it.
Also, we didn't move a bar. You did. All that was presented here was a novelty set of cards. That's where the bar is. This fictional world where they've taken over and replaced all the traditional cards is moving the bar.
Also, not a big point, but it looks like Our Gang is readily available on DVD. Am I missing something there?
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Just sounds like, IF that were to happen, which it won't, it's something you don't personally like.
Tough. You don't get to like everything that happens. Sometimes change means something you don't agree with. Sometimes it means something I don't agree with. If you feel very passionately about putting traditional cards back in casinos and schools (why are they in schools?) in this fictional reality where the woke crowd has risen up and taken over the world, then fight for it.
I don't like having bibles in hotels. Tough for me.
I don't like lots of different changes that happen. Sucks for me. If I cared enough, I'd fight for it.
Also, we didn't move a bar. You did. All that was presented here was a novelty set of cards. That's where the bar is. This fictional world where they've taken over and replaced all the traditional cards is moving the bar.
Also, not a big point, but it looks like Our Gang is readily available on DVD. Am I missing something there?
Look, I'm the first one to say "tough". I'm also the first one - sometimes the only one - that says "my personal feelings don't matter". I'm also - usually - fine with change. If you think that's the answer, you're misunderstanding my point. My point is about the apparent inconsistencies that almost invariably crop up when these issues start to arise. "Tough"? "Deal with it"? I'll remember that the next time the deck of cards is modified the OTHER way. You know full well there's a double standard here, and that's all I'm going to say for now.
As for Our Gang, yes, but HEAVILY edited (many episodes are barely half the length), and with entire episodes missing.
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Just sounds like, IF that were to happen, which it won't, it's something you don't personally like.
Tough. You don't get to like everything that happens. Sometimes change means something you don't agree with. Sometimes it means something I don't agree with. If you feel very passionately about putting traditional cards back in casinos and schools (why are they in schools?) in this fictional reality where the woke crowd has risen up and taken over the world, then fight for it.
I don't like having bibles in hotels. Tough for me.
I don't like lots of different changes that happen. Sucks for me. If I cared enough, I'd fight for it.
Also, we didn't move a bar. You did. All that was presented here was a novelty set of cards. That's where the bar is. This fictional world where they've taken over and replaced all the traditional cards is moving the bar.
Also, not a big point, but it looks like Our Gang is readily available on DVD. Am I missing something there?
Look, I'm the first one to say "tough". I'm also the first one - sometimes the only one - that says "my personal feelings don't matter". I'm also - usually - fine with change. If you think that's the answer, you're misunderstanding my point. My point is about the apparent inconsistencies that almost invariably crop up when these issues start to arise. "Tough"? "Deal with it"? I'll remember that the next time the deck of cards is modified the OTHER way. You know full well there's a double standard here, and that's all I'm going to say for now.
As for Our Gang, yes, but HEAVILY edited (many episodes are barely half the length), and with entire episodes missing.
I wonder if they still have that one where they go in the woods and make a fire, and then see Big Foot, they all leave while the black kid stays. And then ends up getting shanked by Big Foot.
I had a VHS of Our Gang episodes and some of them were pretty out there. Good documentation of the times...
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I personally agree with most of the points made immediately after my last one by Adami, Lethean, pg. One point I disagree with however ...
But do they contribute to/reinforce stereotypes? I think they probably do. In a small subtle way.
Yeah... I can't get on board with this line of thinking. I don't think you're wrong or judge you at all dude, but on this we'll just agree to disagree.
On the path that Stads took us down, I see his point, even if I don't think it's ever going to come to fruition. Let's say this turns into a Social Justice Warrior movement. Hoyle's gets pressured to replace their designs. Casino and Poker Leagues pressured and/or boycotted if they don't jump on the bandwagon. That's where the bar moves and becomes forced upon people, and therein lies the potential problem... forcing ones views on broader society or face the consequences.
Again, not that I think this particular issue would go that far - they're playing cards, ffs! But, it has been seen on other issues of greater significance.
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Just sounds like, IF that were to happen, which it won't, it's something you don't personally like.
Tough. You don't get to like everything that happens. Sometimes change means something you don't agree with. Sometimes it means something I don't agree with. If you feel very passionately about putting traditional cards back in casinos and schools (why are they in schools?) in this fictional reality where the woke crowd has risen up and taken over the world, then fight for it.
I don't like having bibles in hotels. Tough for me.
I don't like lots of different changes that happen. Sucks for me. If I cared enough, I'd fight for it.
Also, we didn't move a bar. You did. All that was presented here was a novelty set of cards. That's where the bar is. This fictional world where they've taken over and replaced all the traditional cards is moving the bar.
Also, not a big point, but it looks like Our Gang is readily available on DVD. Am I missing something there?
Look, I'm the first one to say "tough". I'm also the first one - sometimes the only one - that says "my personal feelings don't matter". I'm also - usually - fine with change. If you think that's the answer, you're misunderstanding my point. My point is about the apparent inconsistencies that almost invariably crop up when these issues start to arise. "Tough"? "Deal with it"? I'll remember that the next time the deck of cards is modified the OTHER way. You know full well there's a double standard here, and that's all I'm going to say for now.
As for Our Gang, yes, but HEAVILY edited (many episodes are barely half the length), and with entire episodes missing.
I've never heard of Our Gang, so no comment there.
To your other point, I don't see a double standard at all. If the cards all changed to where the queen was more valuable, and you were told "tough," and then they started changing back to the king being more powerful and you weren't "allowed" to say "tough" - that's a double standard. Not the scenario that's before us now. But for what it's worth, while I more or less agree with Adami's post, I generally don't agree that just saying "tough" to someone who is upset about change (moving to neutral cards in this case) is the way to go. It's tempting after reading some of the ridiculous comments on that fb post and seeing how enraged some got. But usually I think it's better to try to take a measured approach.
I personally agree with most of the points made immediately after my last one by Adami, Lethean, pg. One point I disagree with however ...
But do they contribute to/reinforce stereotypes? I think they probably do. In a small subtle way.
Yeah... I can't get on board with this line of thinking. I don't think you're wrong or judge you at all dude, but on this we'll just agree to disagree.
On the path that Stads took us down, I see his point, even if I don't think it's ever going to come to fruition. Let's say this turns into a Social Justice Warrior movement. Hoyle's gets pressured to replace their designs. Casino and Poker Leagues pressured and/or boycotted if they don't jump on the bandwagon. That's where the bar moves and becomes forced upon people, and therein lies the potential problem... forcing ones views on broader society or face the consequences.
Again, not that I think this particular issue would go that far - they're playing cards, ffs! But, it has been seen on other issues of greater significance.
I don't generally agree with bad behavior, but I don't think the potential for it should stop people from trying to create change. I'm not sure if that makes sense. It would be (and always is) bad behavior to write hateful posts on a casino's social media, call up the owner and harass them, etc. Hopefully no one will ever do that over a deck of cards, but I suppose someone could because that's what some people do. But I don't think that possiblity should have prevented the creator from making the cards nor should it prevent her from trying to have various places slowly start to change to something neutral since that seems to be important to her.
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Just sounds like, IF that were to happen, which it won't, it's something you don't personally like.
Tough. You don't get to like everything that happens. Sometimes change means something you don't agree with. Sometimes it means something I don't agree with. If you feel very passionately about putting traditional cards back in casinos and schools (why are they in schools?) in this fictional reality where the woke crowd has risen up and taken over the world, then fight for it.
I don't like having bibles in hotels. Tough for me.
I don't like lots of different changes that happen. Sucks for me. If I cared enough, I'd fight for it.
Also, we didn't move a bar. You did. All that was presented here was a novelty set of cards. That's where the bar is. This fictional world where they've taken over and replaced all the traditional cards is moving the bar.
Also, not a big point, but it looks like Our Gang is readily available on DVD. Am I missing something there?
Look, I'm the first one to say "tough". I'm also the first one - sometimes the only one - that says "my personal feelings don't matter". I'm also - usually - fine with change. If you think that's the answer, you're misunderstanding my point. My point is about the apparent inconsistencies that almost invariably crop up when these issues start to arise. "Tough"? "Deal with it"? I'll remember that the next time the deck of cards is modified the OTHER way. You know full well there's a double standard here, and that's all I'm going to say for now.
As for Our Gang, yes, but HEAVILY edited (many episodes are barely half the length), and with entire episodes missing.
I've never heard of Our Gang, so no comment there.
To your other point, I don't see a double standard at all. If the cards all changed to where the queen was more valuable, and you were told "tough," and then they started changing back to the king being more powerful and you weren't "allowed" to say "tough" - that's a double standard. Not the scenario that's before us now. But for what it's worth, while I more or less agree with Adami's post, I generally don't agree that just saying "tough" to someone who is upset about change (moving to neutral cards in this case) is the way to go. It's tempting after reading some of the ridiculous comments on that fb post and seeing how enraged some got. But usually I think it's better to try to take a measured approach.
I personally agree with most of the points made immediately after my last one by Adami, Lethean, pg. One point I disagree with however ...
But do they contribute to/reinforce stereotypes? I think they probably do. In a small subtle way.
Yeah... I can't get on board with this line of thinking. I don't think you're wrong or judge you at all dude, but on this we'll just agree to disagree.
On the path that Stads took us down, I see his point, even if I don't think it's ever going to come to fruition. Let's say this turns into a Social Justice Warrior movement. Hoyle's gets pressured to replace their designs. Casino and Poker Leagues pressured and/or boycotted if they don't jump on the bandwagon. That's where the bar moves and becomes forced upon people, and therein lies the potential problem... forcing ones views on broader society or face the consequences.
Again, not that I think this particular issue would go that far - they're playing cards, ffs! But, it has been seen on other issues of greater significance.
I don't generally agree with bad behavior, but I don't think the potential for it should stop people from trying to create change. I'm not sure if that makes sense. It would be (and always is) bad behavior to write hateful posts on a casino's social media, call up the owner and harass them, etc. Hopefully no one will ever do that over a deck of cards, but I suppose someone could because that's what some people do. But I don't think that possiblity should have prevented the creator from making the cards nor should it prevent her from trying to have various places slowly start to change to something neutral since that seems to be important to her.
I say the playing card value should be determined by Who is ruling the Monarchy. Since the Queen of England is the head, then the Queen would be worth more value. :biggrin:
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I don't generally agree with bad behavior, but I don't think the potential for it should stop people from trying to create change. I'm not sure if that makes sense. It would be (and always is) bad behavior to write hateful posts on a casino's social media, call up the owner and harass them, etc. Hopefully no one will ever do that over a deck of cards, but I suppose someone could because that's what some people do. But I don't think that possiblity should have prevented the creator from making the cards nor should it prevent her from trying to have various places slowly start to change to something neutral since that seems to be important to her.
Not just to you, but to Adami and Jingle as well: Okay, I'll back off. But maybe it's because I'm sensitive to it, I see a LOT of what I'm talking about every day. Maybe it's too subtle for all to see, maybe you see it and don't care, maybe some combo in between. But there is JUDGMENT attached to even these little gestures. Particularly when attached to identity politics issues, the change is NOT OPTIONAL (and no I don't mean everyone HAS to change cards, I mean in terms of agreeing to the change).
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Outdoor dining is back for California. That specifically doesn't piss me off. It's the fact that these places weren't following anything close to safe practices before outdoor dining was shut down back in Dec, nor were they following anything safe practices while it was shut down, and now that it's back open I see the same shit as before. Huge crowds of people crammed into the "tents" set up in the parking spaces along the streets.
That doesn't effect me personally..
But
The fact that these people have seemed to have forgotten what crosswalks are, or to at bare minimum look both ways before running across a street....does :lol
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I love when you're just walking along the pavement (sidewark) and someone just barrels out of a shop without looking and almost ploughs into you.
Then they glare at you like it's your fault :P :P
It's shocking how many people do this. Or just stand in the doorway of a shop on their phones. Or stand in the aisle of a supermarket with their trolley at arms length etc etc.
It does seem to be the older generation. When you get older - do you just lose the part of your brain that handles spatial awareness ? ;D ;D
The fact that these people have seemed to have forgotten what crosswalks are, or to at bare minimum look both ways before running across a street....does :lol
Jay I find people's behaviour at pedestrian crossings fascinating.
- Some will just cross the road when it's obviously safe
- Some will press the button and wait for the signal - even though the road is empty in both directions
- And the strangest of all - the people who get to a crossing when the light is RED - the cars have all STOPPED - it says CROSS and it's BEEPING , and
they literally press the button and WAIT :rollin .
Where I used to live - to get to my music degree - there was two lanes of traffic and I had worked out the timing. So if I saw the far side go green - i'd count five seconds
then just waltz into traffic knowing full well it would change to RED by the time the cars got near me ;D
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Don't even get me started on crosswalks but I guess I'll get started on crosswalks.
1) People who press the button over and over and over and over and keep pressing it until the light changes and they think to themselves "YES! I was trying to make it think there's 100 people here all wanting to cross so it had better hurry up and change and it worked!"
This is toddler-level thinking but somehow it survives education into adulthood that somehow you're fooling the signal when the reality is that ONE SINGLE PRESS tells it that there's someone wanting to cross and it'll activate the WALK sign at the next change or, in the case of flashing-light crosswalks, pretty much instantly.
2) Most of the intersections in my city have pedestrian-activated buttons... BUT THEY DON'T DO SHIT.
I'll be driving to work at 6am, nobody around, and I'll approach an intersection, I have the green light, there's NOBODY crossing my path, and THE LIGHT STOPS ME FOR NO REASON just so that NOBODY WILL CROSS IN FRONT OF ME. So I sit there for 45-60s doing nothing waiting for nothing. So on my drive to work I go through about 20 intersections and I'm guaranteed to be stopped at half of them for no reason.
The worst part is that the PEDESTRIAN "WALK" SIGNAL ALSO ACTIVATES even thought there's NO PEDESTRIANS THERE and NOBODY PRESSED THE FRIGGIN' BUTTON. So why the frack is it changing at all?
If the WALK light activates anyway then why even have a pedestrian button at all? In the downtown core where there's constant foot traffic then it makes sense to just always have the walk lights activate but it shouldn't be happening anywhere else.
3) Pedestrian buttons that don't do anything. One example is that there's 3 crosswalks in front of my hospital, all with buttons, but pushing them does nothing. It doesn't speed anything up, and it doesn't tell it to activate the WALK light, it just does it every time at a set interval. Again, it's 6am, there's NOBODY around, and these lights just change at their set time and activate the WALK light for no reason so I'm sitting there for 45-60s doing nothing.
So why install pedestrian-activated controls if they don't do anything? Why install those in-ground car detectors that let the red light know someone is waiting if the light just changes anyway regardless?
I tried contacting my city about it and they said that sometimes they malfunction, which is fine, but this isn't a malfunction at all, they've actually been set up this way. You want to keep traffic flowing? Here's a major problem that seemingly would be easy to fix.
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PS - My wife will walk all the way down the block to a crosswalk instead of jaywalk over an empty street.
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1) People who press the button over and over and over and over and keep pressing it until the light changes and they think to themselves "YES! I was trying to make it think there's 100 people here all wanting to cross so it had better hurry up and change and it worked!"
Same with people who press the button for the lift over and over and over as if it will come quicker.
ALSO - some traffic lights are on a timer - so pressing it literally does NOTHING except make you feel like you did something.
PS - My wife will walk all the way down the block to a crosswalk instead of jaywalk over an empty street.
Haha. I love seeing that level of Pavlovian thinking.
I don't know what the rule is in the US and A - but here I was told that if you're driving and you basically are unable to stop for the red light safely - you are technically allowed to
drive thru it. It's a bit annoying when you have to catch a bus and you get one of those drivers who slows down when the light is green in case it changes at the last second.
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I was following a car yesterday, and the dude (assumption, based on the hat) was cruising below the speed limit for a quarter mile or so then as we approached a light... he floored it and went through the light leaving me at the yellow. Is what it is, life happens, but it annoyed me.
FWIW, if I'm in the city, I cross when I cross, unless traffic is just SO full, or it's multi-lane like in New York City. I lived in Philly for five years, and I probably gained a month or two of "living" by not waiting for the corner or the lights. I've never been hit, rarely if ever been beeped at, and only once came close to actually being hit (an electric car which I never heard coming).
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The ones I don't understand are the ones who slam on the brakes very 300metres or so when going downhill - no matter how steep or not.
And they drive half the speed limit at all times.
I often wonder why they even bother driving if they're *that* terrified.
Never going above 30 when the speed limit is 60 is just ridiculous.
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I love when you're just walking along the pavement (sidewark) and someone just barrels out of a shop without looking and almost ploughs into you.
Then they glare at you like it's your fault :P :P
It's shocking how many people do this. Or just stand in the doorway of a shop on their phones. Or stand in the aisle of a supermarket with their trolley at arms length etc etc.
It does seem to be the older generation. When you get older - do you just lose the part of your brain that handles spatial awareness ? ;D ;D
In shopping centers...folks walk out of the store and start to walk into the "street" running in front of the store...without looking. This happens more often than it should, but not a LOT. The other two things you mentioned are, sadly ubiquitous. And I see it among all ages -- particularly the walking into traffic thing, which seems mostly to be about having one's head buried in one's phone.
All of these boil down to the "I am the most important thing in the world" mindset.
We seem now to be veering from "pissed off" into "mildly irritating" territory.
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Yes I saw Jay's posts about crossings and it reminded me of stuff :)
Nothing has really pissed me off today - but it's Sunday so i'm bored out of my mind.
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Yes I saw Jay's posts about crossings and it reminded me of stuff :)
Nothing has really pissed me off today - but it's Sunday so i'm bored out of my mind.
Doesn't being bored out of your mind piss you off?
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Yes I saw Jay's posts about crossings and it reminded me of stuff :)
Nothing has really pissed me off today - but it's Sunday so i'm bored out of my mind.
Doesn't being bored out of your mind piss you off?
It's mildly irritating.
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Yahoo's spam filters.
So I've used yahoo for my email since 2004. I have 3 main accounts (for reasons). I've had a Gmail account for like ever, but never use it much for actually email.
Recently, well sometime last year, I made a new Gmail account, and had all of my Yahoo shit forwarded. Gmail's UI has gotten much better over the years, and their spam filters are on point. I've changed info on a lot of things to reflect the new email, but there are also a lot of things that I can't change it on or I just don't want to spend time dealing with it.
Well, yahoo decided that it wants a dollar per month per account to allow me to forward my email. $36 a year doesn't sound like much, but if it weren't for their shitty UI and Spam filters, I wouldn't need my shit forwarded.
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Leaving work early to get home for the electrician only to find out when you get home he's not coming because his son has covid. Do you think you could have given me a heads up before I got up early to get my production to work then drive all the way home to find out in my driveway?! :censored
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Main fridge we inherited from previous owners (which is only 5 years old) died yesterday. >:( Fortunately, with four adults in the house, we have always had a 2nd full-sized fridge in the basement, and also had 2 bar-fridges they kids each had when away at university. So, we're at least not screwed that way - only screwed with the $1,500 price tag of ordering a new one, and having to do it site-unseen, and now waiting 2-10 business days.
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In case no one has mentioned this . . .
I can’t begin to express how much I hate the “not guilty” plea option when there are dozens of witnesses and clear full-color video of someone DOING EXACTLY what they’re accused of but getting to plead not guilty anyway thereby wasting A TON of everyone’s time and money. Eff that noise. If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
I realize plea options were created before the advent of video - what the hell’s wrong with rewriting some laws based on available tech?
I know the usual suspects will chime in defending scumbag criminals, but I really am interested in balanced viewpoints on this matter. Every SINGLE time I hear about some lowlife being caught in some heinous act, it’s followed by “not guilty”. Every. Friggin. Time.
Oh yeah - and everyone has to say “alleged” even with clear video evidence. ::)
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It's funny but I was thinking about this very thing the other day.
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If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Well, immediate sentencing only happens if they plead guilty. A plea of not guilty means it goes to trial. So, I'm kinda confused by your statement.
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If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Well, immediate sentencing only happens if they plead guilty. A plea of not guilty means it goes to trial. So, I'm kinda confused by your statement.
I'm not sure I understand either. And also, sometimes what seems to be clear evidence sometimes is not once it gets scrutinized in trial.
However, there are certain things that make little sense like the Boston Marathon bomber for example. There's no doubt the guy did what he did, but everyone does deserve their day in court. Sometimes we sacrifice stupid things in the sake of having our freedoms in place.
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If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Well, immediate sentencing only happens if they plead guilty. A plea of not guilty means it goes to trial. So, I'm kinda confused by your statement.
I'm not sure I understand either. And also, sometimes what seems to be clear evidence sometimes is not once it gets scrutinized in trial.
However, there are certain things that make little sense like the Boston Marathon bomber for example. There's no doubt the guy did what he did, but everyone does deserve their day in court. Sometimes we sacrifice stupid things in the sake of having our freedoms in place.
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If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Well, immediate sentencing only happens if they plead guilty. A plea of not guilty means it goes to trial. So, I'm kinda confused by your statement.
I say the following without knowing if the original post on this topic was motivated by a particular event (which I obviously know nothing about):
This is a potentially MASSIVE can of worms, and it really boils down to this: Who gets to decide when the evidence is such that we should dispense with a trial?
ALSO, just because a particular act has been committed doesn't mean the person who committed the act is guilty of a particular crime. Most crimes have two components: the act (actus reus) and the criminal state of mind (mens rea). ADDITIONALLY, even if both the act and the state of mind exist, there may be defenses. Dispensing with the process just because there is "clear full-color video of someone DOING EXACTLY what they’re accused of" does away with the potential defenses.
These are some of the most fundamental of our constitutional protections, and advocating that we do away with the criminal process is tantamount to advocating that we tear up the Constitution.
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If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Well, immediate sentencing only happens if they plead guilty. A plea of not guilty means it goes to trial. So, I'm kinda confused by your statement.
I say the following without knowing if the original post on this topic was motivated by a particular event (which I obviously know nothing about):
This is a potentially MASSIVE can of worms, and it really boils down to this: Who gets to decide when the evidence is such that we should dispense with a trial?
ALSO, just because a particular act has been committed doesn't mean the person who committed the act is guilty of a particular crime. Most crimes have two components: the act (actus reus) and the criminal state of mind (mens rea). ADDITIONALLY, even if both the act and the state of mind exist, there may be defenses. Dispensing with the process just because there is "clear full-color video of someone DOING EXACTLY what they’re accused of" does away with the potential defenses.
These are some of the most fundamental of our constitutional protections, and advocating that we do away with the criminal process is tantamount to advocating that we tear up the Constitution.
100% agreement with all of this. This is a FUNDAMENTAL aspect of our jurisprudence system. The premise is now and always has been "it's better than 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man be imprisoned", and while that sounds naive in the context of the social justice discussions of 2021, this is how we do that.
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I can’t begin to express how much I hate the “not guilty” plea option when there are dozens of witnesses and clear full-color video of someone DOING EXACTLY what they’re accused of but getting to plead not guilty anyway thereby wasting A TON of everyone’s time and money. Eff that noise. If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Totally. I've even seen recently that a judge can throw out police bodycam footage for some reason. So what's the point of having bodycams if the evidence they contain can be ignored?
Oh yeah - and everyone has to say “alleged” even with clear video evidence. ::)
OH MY GOD I RAGE AT THIS EVERY DAMN DAY
I get it. It's "alleged" that "Individual 1" did something but it hasn't been proven in court yet. But I constantly see on the news where there's video of an assault, from a phone or a security cam or both or whatever, and they always say, after showing the video, that "the alleged assault happened here and on blah blah blah"... IT'S NOT AN ALLEGED ASSAULT, IT'S A DAMN ASSAULT. The only "alleged" thing would be if they said "so-and-so who is ALLEGEDLY responsible for the assault was taken into custody and blah blah blah".
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I can’t begin to express how much I hate the “not guilty” plea option when there are dozens of witnesses and clear full-color video of someone DOING EXACTLY what they’re accused of but getting to plead not guilty anyway thereby wasting A TON of everyone’s time and money. Eff that noise. If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Totally. I've even seen recently that a judge can throw out police bodycam footage for some reason. So what's the point of having bodycams if the evidence they contain can be ignored?
I would suggest not looking at this as a binary, "yes/no" issue. ANYTHING can be excluded if the veracity isn't confirmed, if the chain of custody isn't confirmed, if the evidence is overly prejudicial (not likely in terms of body cam) or any of the other rules of evidence that are WELL established, and well-known to judges, prosecutors and defense attorneys alike.
It's like the Zapruder film; it's crystal clear, right? 26.6 seconds of history. But what about that time before the film started? There's a theory that there was a shot BEFORE the film, that hit one of the light stantions, and skidded off, but still impacting the analysis of EVERYTHING that came after.
Oh yeah - and everyone has to say “alleged” even with clear video evidence. ::)
OH MY GOD I RAGE AT THIS EVERY DAMN DAY
I get it. It's "alleged" that "Individual 1" did something but it hasn't been proven in court yet. But I constantly see on the news where there's video of an assault, from a phone or a security cam or both or whatever, and they always say, after showing the video, that "the alleged assault happened here and on blah blah blah"... IT'S NOT AN ALLEGED ASSAULT, IT'S A DAMN ASSAULT. The only "alleged" thing would be if they said "so-and-so who is ALLEGEDLY responsible for the assault was taken into custody and blah blah blah".
That's grammar though; maybe the ASSAULT happened, but the culpability of the person doing it is still an allegation.
Funny story on that: there was an incident in Georgia where the police chased - low speed; at one point the car had no tires so you can imagine that they weren't moving that fast - a guy they KNEW to be armed and intoxicated from his house in a suburb north of Atlanta down into the city via the interstate. They finally got the guy pulled over and my brother and another officer were the first to the vehicle. The guy was pulled out, and fell down with his hands under him and down by his groinal area. My brother was calling for him to put his hands out to the side, and the guy wouldn't. So my brother was punching his arm (we called them monkey bumps when I was in grade school; you hit the arm in the forearm near the elbow and it makes your hand open and you get this little temporary bump in that area. I'm watching all this on the nightly news and they go to the newscaster and they show the helicopter footage of my brother hitting the arm of the suspect and the lead was "we have footage of the officer assaulting the alleged perpetrator". My brother went through the entire process of review and was not only cleared of any wrong-doing but received a commendation for his handling of a sticky matter. The "perp" was found guilty of driving while intoxicated and several weapons charges (he DID have a gun with him).
I wrote a letter to the news station.
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I can’t begin to express how much I hate the “not guilty” plea option when there are dozens of witnesses and clear full-color video of someone DOING EXACTLY what they’re accused of but getting to plead not guilty anyway thereby wasting A TON of everyone’s time and money. Eff that noise. If there is clear video evidence available right off the bat the case should go immediately to sentencing or at least trial.
Totally. I've even seen recently that a judge can throw out police bodycam footage for some reason. So what's the point of having bodycams if the evidence they contain can be ignored?
Oh yeah - and everyone has to say “alleged” even with clear video evidence. ::)
OH MY GOD I RAGE AT THIS EVERY DAMN DAY
I get it. It's "alleged" that "Individual 1" did something but it hasn't been proven in court yet. But I constantly see on the news where there's video of an assault, from a phone or a security cam or both or whatever, and they always say, after showing the video, that "the alleged assault happened here and on blah blah blah"... IT'S NOT AN ALLEGED ASSAULT, IT'S A DAMN ASSAULT. The only "alleged" thing would be if they said "so-and-so who is ALLEGEDLY responsible for the assault was taken into custody and blah blah blah".
They're having to say it because people will accuse them of spreading false information as that person is not guilty until proven guilty.
Until a person is proven guilty, what they did is alleged. Unless, they admit to doing it then the verdict is by own admission guilty and they will get a hearing on what type of punishment that person is justified in receiving. Is that how it works?...
Or you may end up with what Stads mentions. The media accusing the officer of assault without saying...Alleged assault, as if he is guilty already of assault. Without knowing what the entire process entails for these allegations.
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They're having to say it because people will accuse them of spreading false information as that person is not guilty until proven guilty.
It's the classic "it's not what you say, but how you say it" for me.
eg. The assault DID HAPPEN, it didn't "allegedly" happen. We see it right there on video. But they've apprehended the ALLEGED assaulter. The actual act of assault isn't debatable, but the person(s) who did the assault are ALLEGED to have done it and until they go through the case they'll continue to have allegedly done it.
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It's one of the realities of living under a system where the defense of criminals has gotten disproportionately way stronger than it needs to be compared to justice for victims. Lowlifes should be VERY grateful they live under such a criminal-friendly system.
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It's one of the realities of living under a system where the defense of criminals has gotten disproportionately way stronger than it needs to be compared to justice for victims. Lowlifes should be VERY grateful they live under such a criminal-friendly system.
It's not just that. Theres more that plays into how these decisions are made in court. The prosecutor is there to prove the alleged criminal did in fact do what he did to be labeled a criminal by others. They gather evidence, and this would be the video and the witnesses.
The defense is there to prove his defendants innocence and that he was not the one who did what they say he did to be labelled and assumed a criminal.
This relates back to the Salem Witch Trials, where they used justice under the justification of religion to condemn and criminalize people by labeling them witches.
What happens when the prosecutor is inept and can't prove the person is guilty. And what happens when the defense is inept they can't prove their defendant is innocent.
Sadly, the defendants are offered only Lionel Hutz, as they can't afford to pay a good lawyer that can meddle their way by utilizing laws and regulations to prove their defendant is innocent. This leads to imprisonment of innocent people and also, to other less fortunate people whom would have gotten off if they were to have afforded a good lawyer.
This system relies on people and how they can convince people. And it also, doesn't take much for people to assume guilt and place the blame before actually looking at the evidence with an unbiased mind.
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Just to clarify Ben, the defense doesn't have to *prove the defendent is innocent."
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The defense is there to prove his defendants innocence and that he was not the one who did what they say he did to be labelled and assumed a criminal.
That is NOT the defense attorney's job (at least not in every case), and I think you have to draw a line between MOST cases and high profile cases. MOST cases are handled by public defenders and don't make headlines.
The primary job of a criminal defense attorney is to ensure that defendant receives a fair trial that meets minimum constitutional standards. The prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense does not have to -- and, in most cases, does not try to -- prove anything. Criminal defense attorneys do not, for the most part, ask the defendant, "did you do it?" What they do seek to do is try and poke holes in the prosecution's case. For example, was the witness in a good place to observe what she claims to have seen? The only time I sat on a jury was a criminal case for simple possession of crack. The defendant did not testify, and the public defender offered no witnesses. She did, however, cross-examine the heck out of the arresting officers, and this led some on the jury to have doubt about whether the officers had planted the drugs on the defendant. We eventually convicted the guy, but it took a lot more deliberation than I expected when we began, and that's because the public defender did a good job.
Of course, if the defendant is claiming, for example, entrapment, then he/she will have the burden of proving that. But that stuff doesn't happen all that often (and, as with a lot of legal issues, the general public doesn't have a good grasp as to what entrapment actually is).
the defense of criminals has gotten disproportionately way stronger than it needs to be compared to justice for victims.
I don't agree with that at all. Most criminal defendants plea bargain (which entails an admission to the crime), and most defendants who to go trial are represented by public defenders. By and large, PDs are good at their jobs, but they are almost universally underpaid and overworked.
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The defense is there to prove his defendants innocence and that he was not the one who did what they say he did to be labelled and assumed a criminal.
That is NOT the defense attorney's job (at least not in every case), and I think you have to draw a line between MOST cases and high profile cases. MOST cases are handled by public defenders and don't make headlines.
The primary job of a criminal defense attorney is to ensure that defendant receives a fair trial that meets minimum constitutional standards. The prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense does not have to -- and, in most cases, does not try to -- prove anything. Criminal defense attorneys do not, for the most part, ask the defendant, "did you do it?" What they do seek to do is try and poke holes in the prosecution's case. For example, was the witness in a good place to observe what she claims to have seen? The only time I sat on a jury was a criminal case for simple possession of crack. The defendant did not testify, and the public defender offered no witnesses. She did, however, cross-examine the heck out of the arresting officers, and this led some on the jury to have doubt about whether the officers had planted the drugs on the defendant. We eventually convicted the guy, but it took a lot more deliberation than I expected when we began, and that's because the public defender did a good job.
Of course, if the defendant is claiming, for example, entrapment, then he/she will have the burden of proving that. But that stuff doesn't happen all that often (and, as with a lot of legal issues, the general public doesn't have a good grasp as to what entrapment actually is).
the defense of criminals has gotten disproportionately way stronger than it needs to be compared to justice for victims.
I don't agree with that at all. Most criminal defendants plea bargain (which entails an admission to the crime), and most defendants who to go trial are represented by public defenders. By and large, PDs are good at their jobs, but they are almost universally underpaid and overworked.
You know a public defender told my brother...."You're gonna make me work?" Because my brother told him that the cops that arrested him did not have jurisdiction and they did not call the Tribal Police, which is what the cops should have done.
He still got off because the cops never showed up. But it shows how little a public defender will do for someone, because of the reason for not being paid enough for how much they actually work.
It's almost as if that public defender was showing they're underpaid by pretty much stating...Why do the work when I'm not getting paid for it?...
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It's one of the realities of living under a system where the defense of criminals has gotten disproportionately way stronger than it needs to be compared to justice for victims. Lowlifes should be VERY grateful they live under such a criminal-friendly system.
How do you come to that conclusion? It's arguable that exactly the opposite is the case, given the advances in technology.
You're just seeing the sausage-making more with the advent of televised court cases, the manufactured rage of activists, the victim-culture we live in, and what not.
I was on a jury trial as well, and mine went VERY similarly to the one PG relates. Granted the defendant had a well-known (around here) defense attorney - Norm Pattis, he's worth looking up; quite the character - but still.
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Power went out for the 3rd time in a week. No storms or anything like that. Fucking modern infrastructure. JUNK!!
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Power went out for the 3rd time in a week. No storms or anything like that. Fucking modern infrastructure. JUNK!!
One reason why I support an infrastructure plan. We badly need it. Our power grid (ours being generally in the US) is complete shit from my understanding.
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Power went out for the 3rd time in a week. No storms or anything like that. Fucking modern infrastructure. JUNK!!
One reason why I support an infrastructure plan. We badly need it. Our power grid (ours being generally in the US) is complete shit from my understanding.
Yeah, I was pissed. Called the power company and gave them an earful. 3 times in a week? Really? Never happened to me before in the history of paying utility bills. There's really no legitimate reason for it.
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Power went out for the 3rd time in a week. No storms or anything like that. Fucking modern infrastructure. JUNK!!
One reason why I support an infrastructure plan. We badly need it. Our power grid (ours being generally in the US) is complete shit from my understanding.
Before a big CME event comes and fries the entire grid.
Because our atmosphere absorbs most of these dangerous rays, terrestrial systems are fairly safe from solar flares. But another solar event called a coronal mass ejection (CME) can cause serious problems for electrical systems here on Earth. During a CME, the fluctuations of the sun's magnetic fields cause a large portion of the surface of the sun to expand rapidly, ejecting billions of tons of particles out into space. Sometimes CMEs accompany solar flares -- but not all solar flares produce CMEs and not all CMEs accompany solar flares.
Unlike a solar flare, a CME doesn't produce intense light. But it does produce a magnetic shockwave that extends billions of miles out into space. If Earth is in the path of that shockwave, our planet's magnetic field will react to the event. It's similar to what happens if you put a weak magnet next to a strong one. The weak magnet's field will align itself to the strong magnet's field. A magnetic shockwave from the sun could cause the alignment of the Earth's magnetic field to shift unpredictably.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/solar-flare-electronics.htm
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Out of curiosity - and because I'm trying to convince my husband we should get one - who here has a generator?
If you do have it, do you use it much?
I don't really know much about them so I watched a YouTube video on them and I was surprised at how complicated they were. FTR, I'm not mechanically inclined. But it seems like there is a lot of ways to screw up with them.
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I have one - not a portable one though. Fixed, and hardwired into the electrical panel, runs in natural gas. Only had it kick on a couple of times. We have it for the septic system, and sump pumps. Wintertime we’ve had a few outages of multiple hours, once overnight.
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We have a portable one that does the trick if needed. We've talked about wiring one into the house. My wife would like to get a fixed one.
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My new house (closed June 30) is wired for a portable one, and I will probably purchase a portable one to connect to it. Where I am, if I lose power it could be for days at a time, and I have a well pump and heat to accommodate. My challenge is sizing it; the guy before had a 6500 and said it was "fine", but my math - and my father-in-law's math, who's a licensed electrician - isn't adding up.
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What pissed me off, not today, but last night was getting into a twitter argument with Wolfie Van Halen. The guy seems to love calling out all the people who make nasty comments about him on social media. It's kind of weird if you ask me. I asked why he does it and he got super defensive. You can read through it here https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1425217643418554372 (https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1425217643418554372) kind of makes me not like him, at all, as a person. Which sucks because I thought he was pretty good live and I want to see him overcome the hate he gets for being the son of Eddie. I don't think he deserves the hate, but at the same time, I don't think responding to hate with hate is a good look either. I guess I should have kept my mouth shut, but man his attitude is such a turn off from liking him. Almost makes me want to be a hater towards him, but I'm not that kind of guy so I'll just not engage him at all ever again. (although I have a ticket to see him in September at a festival)
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Or....better yet...Unfollow him on Twitter. And just pay attention to his music.
It's his Twitter and he can do what he wants with it and if he wants to defend himself and actually tell people off then great for him.
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The douchebag that felt he had to defend Wolf is just as bad. "Soft"? What are we, 12? Gonna fist fight at gym class? The guy is VAN FRIGGIN' HALEN for god's sake. He doesn't need to engage with these fools.
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The douchebag that felt he had to defend Wolf is just as bad. "Soft"? What are we, 12? Gonna fist fight at gym class? The guy is VAN FRIGGIN' HALEN for god's sake. He doesn't need to engage with these fools.
I should reply with "You should go full on and Jay and Silent Bob these haters." :biggrin:
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The douchebag that felt he had to defend Wolf is just as bad. "Soft"? What are we, 12? Gonna fist fight at gym class? The guy is VAN FRIGGIN' HALEN for god's sake. He doesn't need to engage with these fools.
That's what I'm thinking. What's the point of engaging with nobodys? How does that help you? Can you think of one time a famous person came out on top by ripping on their haters in a public forum?
Or....better yet...Unfollow him on Twitter. And just pay attention to his music.
It's his Twitter and he can do what he wants with it and if he wants to defend himself and actually tell people off then great for him.
I might just mute him, but I don't want to come off as "the guy who unfollows because he didnt get the response he thought he should have". Of course he can do what he wants, but can you name one thing of benefit from going after your trolls?
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The douchebag that felt he had to defend Wolf is just as bad. "Soft"? What are we, 12? Gonna fist fight at gym class? The guy is VAN FRIGGIN' HALEN for god's sake. He doesn't need to engage with these fools.
That's what I'm thinking. What's the point of engaging with nobodys? How does that help you? Can you think of one time a famous person came out on top by ripping on their haters in a public forum?
Or....better yet...Unfollow him on Twitter. And just pay attention to his music.
It's his Twitter and he can do what he wants with it and if he wants to defend himself and actually tell people off then great for him.
I might just mute him, but I don't want to come off as "the guy who unfollows because he didnt get the response he thought he should have". Of course he can do what he wants, but can you name one thing of benefit from going after your trolls?
Eh. It just goes along with what I say about Twitter. If you're going to be on Twitter, you better have a strong back to take the lashes.
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And do you think he is showing a "strong back"?
What's funny, if I did unfollow or mute him, I wouldn't of seen that he just announced a show at the Whiskey A Go Go in Hollywood next week while I'm still here in LA so I just snagged a ticket. I will tweet at him letting him know :lol
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And do you think he is showing a "strong back"?
What's funny, if I did unfollow or mute him, I wouldn't of seen that he just announced a show at the Whiskey A Go Go in Hollywood next week while I'm still here in LA so I just snagged a ticket. I will tweet at him letting him know :lol
Same applies to him. And apparently not, but it is his Twitter account and if he feels he needs to defend it by replying to every tweet, then why shouldn't he. It's his reputation to lose. He is an adult and should know what these repercussions could be for doing what he's doing. He should understand his responsibility...like all us adults should.
This is why I personally find twitter hilarious. Hilarious at how people get so upset and angry over thoughts that are forced to be explained in 200 characters or less. And how vile and crude people tend to be on their. It's a ruthless bloodbath of words.
Now that is funny. Just hope he doesn't Jay and Silent Bob you at the show. :rollin
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To add to the thread...
Yesterday I was in a pissy ass mood for some strange reason. And it made it worse as I had to be out for the day, so there was no way I was able to just stay home and stay away from people. So people had to deal with my emotional ass and I actually hate feeling like that.
But today I am not as riled up or vented up. Guess I needed a day to just vent it off like a volcano letting off steam.
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My new house (closed June 30) is wired for a portable one, and I will probably purchase a portable one to connect to it. Where I am, if I lose power it could be for days at a time, and I have a well pump and heat to accommodate. My challenge is sizing it; the guy before had a 6500 and said it was "fine", but my math - and my father-in-law's math, who's a licensed electrician - isn't adding up.
If you're got well water, are you also on a septic tank/bed for your waste? I've got municipal water, but on 'direct current' :lol for waste. Along with the ecology around here (I have two sump pumps that run quite constantly all year long, and sometimes they are running hourly), I don't need either of those systems backing up. I don't keep the whole house active on the generator, just the major things - fridge & freezers, septic, sump pumps, furnace, and some various outlets around the house.
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And do you think he is showing a "strong back"?
What's funny, if I did unfollow or mute him, I wouldn't of seen that he just announced a show at the Whiskey A Go Go in Hollywood next week while I'm still here in LA so I just snagged a ticket. I will tweet at him letting him know :lol
For the record, Marc, I'm with you and I almost replied to that CMC (who must be on the payroll!) but didn't. He' VAN FUCKING HALEN, for God's sake, act like it. To me, it's soft showing a reaction to each person that pokes a stick at you. Man up and walk away.
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What pissed me off, not today, but last night was getting into a twitter argument with Wolfie Van Halen. The guy seems to love calling out all the people who make nasty comments about him on social media. It's kind of weird if you ask me. I asked why he does it and he got super defensive. You can read through it here https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1425217643418554372 (https://twitter.com/Cramx3/status/1425217643418554372) kind of makes me not like him, at all, as a person. Which sucks because I thought he was pretty good live and I want to see him overcome the hate he gets for being the son of Eddie. I don't think he deserves the hate, but at the same time, I don't think responding to hate with hate is a good look either. I guess I should have kept my mouth shut, but man his attitude is such a turn off from liking him. Almost makes me want to be a hater towards him, but I'm not that kind of guy so I'll just not engage him at all ever again. (although I have a ticket to see him in September at a festival)
Sounds like he's no less of a shithead than the dickholes he is responding to.
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I'm lost. What did the guy say that was so bad?
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And do you think he is showing a "strong back"?
What's funny, if I did unfollow or mute him, I wouldn't of seen that he just announced a show at the Whiskey A Go Go in Hollywood next week while I'm still here in LA so I just snagged a ticket. I will tweet at him letting him know :lol
For the record, Marc, I'm with you and I almost replied to that CMC (who must be on the payroll!) but didn't. He' VAN FUCKING HALEN, for God's sake, act like it. To me, it's soft showing a reaction to each person that pokes a stick at you. Man up and walk away.
It's honestly not worth it. I could have kept going, but I don't need his followers all going after me either nor do I want the guy to think I'm an asshole for suggesting maybe he not bother with the trolls and if I keep going, then I'll come off as a troll. The whiskey a go go (never been, honestly looking forward to seeing a show there now since its historic) is a pretty small venue from my understanding. I wonder if I should yell something at him :lol "Ignore the trolls Wolfie from cram!!"
Sounds like he's no less of a shithead than the dickholes he is responding to.
Yup. But in concert, when talking to the crowd, he didn't come off this way AT ALL. His voice was so soft and genuinely felt like he was a nice guy just trying to set his own path.
I'm lost. What did the guy say that was so bad?
It's not that he said something specific that was bad. More like his attitude IMO. You can read the tweets in the link if curious since it's all public.
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I read the link you posted and I guess I missed it.
Was this the tweet that was directed at you?
"Also quit quoting my own lyrics at me like that. It’s dumb. The song isn’t about not telling people to fuck off on the internet, so you’re not as clever as you think you’re being."
That's the only one of the three replies he has there that had some bite to it.
Sounds like he's no less of a shithead than the dickholes he is responding to.
This feels harsh.
And I'm not directing this at Cram, so Marc, don't take this personally, but I have to ask....why would anyone follow WVH's Twitter in the first place?? Do we just follow EVERYBODY when we sign up??
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I only follow those who pledge allegiance to Power Windows, Promised Land and Night Ranger.
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I read the link you posted and I guess I missed it.
Was this the tweet that was directed at you?
"Also quit quoting my own lyrics at me like that. It’s dumb. The song isn’t about not telling people to fuck off on the internet, so you’re not as clever as you think you’re being."
That's the only one of the three replies he has there that had some bite to it.
Sounds like he's no less of a shithead than the dickholes he is responding to.
This feels harsh.
And I'm not directing this at Cram, so Marc, don't take this personally, but I have to ask....why would anyone follow WVH's Twitter in the first place?? Do we just follow EVERYBODY when we sign up??
No. You begin with no tweets as you are not following anyone. To see tweets on your feed, you have to follow people, and what you see on your feed depends on who you follow.
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No. You begin with no tweets as you are not following anyone. To see tweets on your feed, you have to follow people, and what you see on your feed depends on who you follow.
No, I understand that.
But who gives a fuck what WVH has to tweet anyway?
Unless you like him, and he's tweeting free tickets, then I guess I could see it.
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I only follow those who pledge allegiance to Power Windows, Promised Land and Night Ranger.
So you're the guy that follows Kingshmegland?
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I read the link you posted and I guess I missed it.
Was this the tweet that was directed at you?
"Also quit quoting my own lyrics at me like that. It’s dumb. The song isn’t about not telling people to fuck off on the internet, so you’re not as clever as you think you’re being."
That's the only one of the three replies he has there that had some bite to it.
Sounds like he's no less of a shithead than the dickholes he is responding to.
This feels harsh.
And I'm not directing this at Cram, so Marc, don't take this personally, but I have to ask....why would anyone follow WVH's Twitter in the first place?? Do we just follow EVERYBODY when we sign up??
I'm not surprised you don't understand :lol I ask him why he reponds to trolls and he gets super defensive about it. The quote you shared just kind of made me think he doesn't understand that lyrics are interpreted differently (although I never thought they were about twitter so I don't really get what he's saying other than being defensive) but that quote didn't bother me so much as to just his general attitude.
As for following him, I bought his album and was going to see him live. I think that's a solid reason to follow someone. Also, if I didn't, I'd have no idea about the show he just announced today. I follow most musicians who I like on twitter. A lot of them interact back, it's one of my favorite things about twitter over facebook.
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Oh and he's still going on about it (not directly at me) :lol https://twitter.com/WolfVanHalen/status/1425535527378358276 (https://twitter.com/WolfVanHalen/status/1425535527378358276)
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I'm not surprised you don't understand :lol I ask him why he reponds to trolls and he gets super defensive about it. The quote you shared just kind of made me think he doesn't understand that lyrics are interpreted differently (although I never thought they were about twitter so I don't really get what he's saying other than being defensive) but that quote didn't bother me so much as to just his general attitude.
As for following him, I bought his album and was going to see him live. I think that's a solid reason to follow someone. Also, if I didn't, I'd have no idea about the show he just announced today. I follow most musicians who I like on twitter. A lot of them interact back, it's one of my favorite things about twitter over facebook.
Thanks for not getting defensive with my oldmanitis.
It's pathetic though. I just see a long list of people kissing his ass.
I mean it's cool they interact, that's the whole point of it I guess.
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I only follow those who pledge allegiance to Power Windows, Promised Land and Night Ranger.
Bruce Springsteen version?
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I only follow those who pledge allegiance to Power Windows, Promised Land and Night Ranger.
So you're the guy that follows Kingshmegland?
Who doesn't?
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I follow king.
Not on social media though…
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WTF is a NFT??
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WTF is a NFT??
In short, another way to pull money out of nothing. Like Bitcoin or the stock market.
More specifically, a way to denote that something is the original. You make a crappy 8-bit Paint drawing of a frog urinating on Earnest Borgnine, tokenize it (which is the T in NFT) using a unique hash, and then let it go viral. A year later you sell the token (the F is for Fungible) and some nitwit buys it up so he owns the original.
The part that's of interest to you is that we'll start to see songs tokenized. It can be done to anything digital. People can buy the very first incarnation of a song, or an album, or an album cover or whatever else the artist thinks to tokenize. Sure, twenty million people own a copy of it on iTunes, but one person will get to say he owns the original. Frankly, it's completely ridiculous, but, uh, yeah capitalism, I guess.
At least that's how I understand it. I'm sure some of the younger folk here will elaborate better than I can.
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I understood it as you can buy ...something...but not actually own it?
Who would spend money on something like that? Seems like the stupidest thing ever.
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I understood it as you can buy ...something...but not actually own it?
Who would spend money on something like that? Seems like the stupidest thing ever.
No, if you buy it, you own it.
I think. These NFTs are kind of stupid. I agree with EB, for sure. Ridiculous.
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I follow king.
Not on social media though…
You will be greatly rewarded.
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In an effort to confuse Tim even more ... https://www.investopedia.com/non-fungible-tokens-nft-5115211
Or perhaps to only slightly confuse him more... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token
Think of it this way... it's a way to validate the authenticity of something that is digital (ie, not physical). Think of something there is only one of - the shoes that Hank Aaron wore hitting his 715th home run. People could try and sell fakes or recreations. There is only one, and they would come with a certificate of authenticity no doubt. For non-physical items, how is someone to know if they are getting the *original* (eg, Dream Theater's original digital recording of The Astonishing sessions - although, who would pay for that? :biggrin:). NFT's are a way of certifying/authenticating digital assets.
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WTF is a NFT??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrNOYudaMAc
That should totally clear it up.
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I feel like EB on this one. I think it's a gimmick. Not to say art doesn't have value though and the comparison to owning original art is kind of apt, but it just doesn't feel the same since it's all digital. Actually showing an original Van Gogh for example would be pretty impressive. Showing an original digital meme vs what we've all seen already on the internet, is kind of bogus to me.
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WTF is a NFT??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrNOYudaMAc
That should totally clear it up.
I watched the entire clip.
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I feel like EB on this one. I think it's a gimmick. Not to say art doesn't have value though and the comparison to owning original art is kind of apt, but it just doesn't feel the same since it's all digital. Actually showing an original Van Gogh for example would be pretty impressive. Showing an original digital meme vs what we've all seen already on the internet, is kind of bogus to me.
Also, as far as I know, there's nothing to say people can't own copies. So you might own the original digital cat making a silly face GIF, but anyone can simply copy it...........being identical in almost every way.........as much as they want. So I'm a bit lost on the purpose of it, but such is life.
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Timed releases based on geographic location. More specifically, people in Australia already getting to hear the new DT track just cause their clock says a different time than mine!
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The douchebag that felt he had to defend Wolf is just as bad. "Soft"? What are we, 12? Gonna fist fight at gym class? The guy is VAN FRIGGIN' HALEN for god's sake. He doesn't need to engage with these fools.
Fist fight at gym class? You fist fight behind the gym after class, duh. At least the 14 year olds do.
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Getting an e-mail a few weeks ago saying that, due to all our work during the pandemic, the whole staff of the university I work at will get a one time 4% bonus. Then our department head reminded us how happy we should be to be getting a 4% bonus. Then I find out I'm not getting one because it only applies to people who were working here from 3/2020 onward, and I started in August. No mention of that in the e-mail. No mention from anyone at any point. Awesome.
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Getting an e-mail a few weeks ago saying that, due to all our work during the pandemic, the whole staff of the university I work at will get a one time 4% bonus. Then our department head reminded us how happy we should be to be getting a 4% bonus. Then I find out I'm not getting one because it only applies to people who were working here from 3/2020 onward, and I started in August. No mention of that in the e-mail. No mention from anyone at any point. Awesome.
That’s fucked. They can’t/won’t prorate it for you, either?
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Getting an e-mail a few weeks ago saying that, due to all our work during the pandemic, the whole staff of the university I work at will get a one time 4% bonus. Then our department head reminded us how happy we should be to be getting a 4% bonus. Then I find out I'm not getting one because it only applies to people who were working here from 3/2020 onward, and I started in August. No mention of that in the e-mail. No mention from anyone at any point. Awesome.
That’s fucked. They can’t/won’t prorate it for you, either?
Doesn't sound like it. Seems my boss's boss didn't realize it was tied to a certain date and never told us. At best, HIS boss will be pissed at this and find the money. More likely they'll say "woops, our bad" and I'm just not getting anything.
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:-[ Had a really bad day today. Not even sure why. Just one of those "bleak" days where you can't seem to cheer up.
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:-[ Had a really bad day today. Not even sure why. Just one of those "bleak" days where you can't seem to cheer up.
So a Welsh day?
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Woke up pissed off because I have mediation between to staff members today. Not looking forward to it. Why the fuck can't people be adults and just get along.
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Woke up pissed off because I have mediation between to staff members today. Not looking forward to it. Why the fuck can't people be adults and just get along.
Need an update on this later!
I was so disappointed to find out that when I grew up and got a job, that most adults are just old fucking children.
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Woke up pissed off because I have mediation between to staff members today. Not looking forward to it. Why the fuck can't people be adults and just get along.
Dealing with people is the worst.
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Woke up pissed off because I have mediation between to staff members today. Not looking forward to it. Why the fuck can't people be adults and just get along.
Need an update on this later!
I was so disappointed to find out that when I grew up and got a job, that most adults are just old fucking children.
:lol
Alright mate, I'll let you know how it goes.
2 females, one 10 years older than me and the other is 21, I think. What could possibly go wrong........
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Woke up pissed off because I have mediation between to staff members today. Not looking forward to it. Why the fuck can't people be adults and just get along.
Dealing with people is the worst.
And that's an understatement.
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Woke up pissed off because I have mediation between to staff members today. Not looking forward to it. Why the fuck can't people be adults and just get along.
Need an update on this later!
I was so disappointed to find out that when I grew up and got a job, that most adults are just old fucking children.
:lol
Alright mate, I'll let you know how it goes.
2 females, one 10 years older than me and the other is 21, I think. What could possibly go wrong........
I'd buy tickets to that event. :)
:corn
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So, it went somewhat okay, but it was definitely a challenge. The young girl actually is 19 and the other staff member is a fellow Supervisor yet I still outrank her in the pecking order (I hate using those terms, but it's the way it is) and as I said 10 years older than me.
Started basically saying that the purpose was that there is some issues going on causing tension and disruption in the workplace. They both agreed to my outcome to try and clear the air and move on and erase the slate.
Basically, the young staff member said the other talks to them like shit and yells at her. The kicker is, this Supervisor has had other complaints against her for the way she speaks, and I've told her in the past if she keeps it up she'll be screwed when HR get involved. She says she isn't aware and while at times these young kids are just soft I admit, there's still ways to talk to people and ways not to.
I brought up faults on both parts and tried to play it even and not focus solely on just one of them, and asking the staff member if she has done anything she thinks that may have affected these confrontations. She said no, she never does anything wrong. 'Christ, here we go,' I thought. I told her in actual fact her productivity and attitude has slipped compared to what it use to be and that she also sometimes can have a tone herself and while people shouldn't talk to people like shit, if she's given a direction from a Supervisor she needs to respect it and do it. Don't think she liked that but to her credit agreed.
Then the Supervisor asked what she can do to communicate with her better. The answer was just not speak down to her, which is fair. Then the Supervisors tone changed while she was saying 'if you make a mistake I should be able to tell you etc etc.' and her tone changed. I pulled her up and said 'right there, while obviously you're not aware or mean it, your tone right now is coming across slightly condescending and aggressive,' which it was. There was almost some tears, from both mind you. I said, just change your approach and you won't have these issues.
The Supervisor did apologize genuinely for making the staff member feel the way she does and there was still some hesitance. I asked the staff member, 'she's apologizing and it sounds genuine, do you not agree or accept it?' She did.
Basically, the Supervisor is a bitch and the staff member is a princess really. The staff member has always been a funny one anyway but damn she's stubborn. I've had conversations with both individually before the meeting to say my side and things they both do and don't do but Jesus, that was quite a challenge. Afterwards both individually were okay and happy to move forward. I just hope both do their part.
I think I handled it pretty well. I didn't think too much about it beforehand and didn't take notes beforehand or anything, just dealt with it as it comes. The worst thing I've found is playing possibly scenarios in your head of how it may go is the worst thing you can do. Just going in there and doing it with what's in front of me went well. I said what I needed to say. I praised both of them but didn't bitch out on telling them what they both needed to hear also. Time will tell. Definitely earned my crappy pay yesterday. I kind of actually somewhat enjoyed it....I think, which is weird.
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Definitely earned my crappy pay yesterday.
:rollin
I kind of actually somewhat enjoyed it....I think, which is weird.
I completely understand that.
I'll hit this later tonight...
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I've definitely dealt with this before. I have an old school supervisor who wears his emotions on his face. I finally got him to understand that he asks calmly a couple times and when he doesn't get the response he wants I'm the hammer that scares the employee.
I make my point calmly, with purpose and with explanations on what we expect our of our employees. Facts kill their arguments unless they just don't care.
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The motherfucking HAMMER!
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Definitely earned my crappy pay yesterday.
:rollin
I kind of actually somewhat enjoyed it....I think, which is weird.
I completely understand that.
I'll hit this later tonight...
It's taken me years to be able to get to the point where I can tell staff what they are doing wrong and tell them their faults. It's difficult, but I don't know what I was so worried about. I've been able to do it for a few years now but keep getting better at it, and felt really comfortable yesterday. Maybe that's the word, not enjoyed it but just more comfortable with it.
The other thing I said to the young staff member when she said she's done nothing wrong in any of these situations. I told her as you get older you realize you need to look within yourself, recognize areas you can improve and realize you're not perfect and you can always work on yourself and improve. That took her by surprise.
I've definitely dealt with this before. I have an old school supervisor who wears his emotions on his face. I finally got him to understand that he asks calmly a couple times and when he doesn't get the response he wants I'm the hammer that scares the employee.
I make my point calmly, with purpose and with explanations on what we expect our of our employees. Facts kill their arguments unless they just don't care.
Yeah, this one definitely has a resting bitch face, but no filter on what she says. High expectations for the business which is great and that comes across in her aggressiveness, but as you say Joe, you need to ask calmly and civilly to get some results, if you don't then escalate it.
I'm pretty lucky that I've only had mediation a few times in my career. I've had staff issues, but I'm good enough at talking to each one on their own and having it not get to this point.
Yesterday though, that word you used calm, was what I was the whole time. And yeah, they can't argue with the facts in front of them, especially delivered in such a way.
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The motherfucking HAMMER!
I'll purchase a Hammerfall shirt and wear it in my next one I think. :metal
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My employees know I'm very easy going until they are selfish. My production manager tells them you don't want to see Joe mad.
That's because it's such a rarity.
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:lol
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Fuck yeah! :lol
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I have never been anything but the lowest person on the "pecking order" in any job I have ever had. And while that has its drawbacks, it means I have never had the displeasure of supervising/managing anyone.
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I have never been anything but the lowest person on the "pecking order" in any job I have ever had. And while that has its drawbacks, it means I have never had the displeasure of supervising/managing anyone.
You are better off truthfully.
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So, it went somewhat okay, but it was definitely a challenge. The young girl actually is 19 and the other staff member is a fellow Supervisor yet I still outrank her in the pecking order (I hate using those terms, but it's the way it is) and as I said 10 years older than me.
Started basically saying that the purpose was that there is some issues going on causing tension and disruption in the workplace. They both agreed to my outcome to try and clear the air and move on and erase the slate.
Basically, the young staff member said the other talks to them like shit and yells at her. The kicker is, this Supervisor has had other complaints against her for the way she speaks, and I've told her in the past if she keeps it up she'll be screwed when HR get involved. She says she isn't aware and while at times these young kids are just soft I admit, there's still ways to talk to people and ways not to.
I brought up faults on both parts and tried to play it even and not focus solely on just one of them, and asking the staff member if she has done anything she thinks that may have affected these confrontations. She said no, she never does anything wrong. 'Christ, here we go,' I thought. I told her in actual fact her productivity and attitude has slipped compared to what it use to be and that she also sometimes can have a tone herself and while people shouldn't talk to people like shit, if she's given a direction from a Supervisor she needs to respect it and do it. Don't think she liked that but to her credit agreed.
Then the Supervisor asked what she can do to communicate with her better. The answer was just not speak down to her, which is fair. Then the Supervisors tone changed while she was saying 'if you make a mistake I should be able to tell you etc etc.' and her tone changed. I pulled her up and said 'right there, while obviously you're not aware or mean it, your tone right now is coming across slightly condescending and aggressive,' which it was. There was almost some tears, from both mind you. I said, just change your approach and you won't have these issues.
The Supervisor did apologize genuinely for making the staff member feel the way she does and there was still some hesitance. I asked the staff member, 'she's apologizing and it sounds genuine, do you not agree or accept it?' She did.
Basically, the Supervisor is a bitch and the staff member is a princess really. The staff member has always been a funny one anyway but damn she's stubborn. I've had conversations with both individually before the meeting to say my side and things they both do and don't do but Jesus, that was quite a challenge. Afterwards both individually were okay and happy to move forward. I just hope both do their part.
I think I handled it pretty well. I didn't think too much about it beforehand and didn't take notes beforehand or anything, just dealt with it as it comes. The worst thing I've found is playing possibly scenarios in your head of how it may go is the worst thing you can do. Just going in there and doing it with what's in front of me went well. I said what I needed to say. I praised both of them but didn't bitch out on telling them what they both needed to hear also. Time will tell. Definitely earned my crappy pay yesterday. I kind of actually somewhat enjoyed it....I think, which is weird.
I was thinking a wolfking mediation might go something like " You're a fucking bitch and you're a fucking princess. .......capich?" End of mediation. Very impressed :)
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Kind of wasn't far off. Although, if they can't get along that's how the next one will go for sure. :lol
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Left my car parked on the streets overnight, went to get it this morning to find side mirror broken, driver side doors scratched and dented, the front tired damaged and front bumper damaged :censored >:(
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Re: What pissed you off today?
NOTHING ! :octavarium: :corn :metal :hat :coolio
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Left my car parked on the streets overnight, went to get it this morning to find side mirror broken, driver side doors scratched and dented, the front tired damaged and front bumper damaged :censored >:(
Fucking asshole.
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Left my car parked on the streets overnight, went to get it this morning to find side mirror broken, driver side doors scratched and dented, the front tired damaged and front bumper damaged :censored >:(
Mother fuckers!
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Left my car parked on the streets overnight, went to get it this morning to find side mirror broken, driver side doors scratched and dented, the front tired damaged and front bumper damaged :censored >:(
Oh fuck that would have me livid. I remember when I bought my car a few years ago, first ever brand new car, parked it at the back of the grocery store and someone hit my car and left.
Are there cameras on your street?
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Left my car parked on the streets overnight, went to get it this morning to find side mirror broken, driver side doors scratched and dented, the front tired damaged and front bumper damaged :censored >:(
Welcome to the club.
Had my new 2016 CX-5 on the street and had the same thing happen to me. It's so stupid that we have to pay a deductible even for something that is 100% not our fault. Thanks for that.
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I had near identical damage on my Mini Cooper, though it was my fault - First day in a new parking garage, and there was a column perfectly hidden behind my A-pillar. I turned directly into it and it scraped along the side of my car like the iceberg did the Titanic.
Anyway, when it came time to repair, I bought everything myself on eBay. The door, the side mirror, the front quarter panel, etc.. all came of totaled cars and were already painted from the factory to match. I went to my mechanic with all the parts already in the car and just had to pay him for the labor. I ended up saving a buttload.
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Left my car parked on the streets overnight, went to get it this morning to find side mirror broken, driver side doors scratched and dented, the front tired damaged and front bumper damaged :censored >:(
Oh fuck that would have me livid. I remember when I bought my car a few years ago, first ever brand new car, parked it at the back of the grocery store and someone hit my car and left.
Are there cameras on your street?
No, no cameras in that area. I've also had an appointment to install a dash cam, which would've help but that's going to have to wait now.
Chino, That's actually a pretty smart thing to do! :tup I might take that approach, depending how it goes with the insurance. They still have to inspect the damage :yeahright
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Having a hearing today from unemployment on an ex employee who lied his ass off saying I lied about him being picked on. This kid was a mental case and was acting out right on the work floor. He no called no showed for 2 weeks and we no called/no showed him. Then he says he wasn't paid what he was owed. He was wrong. He was paid for his last day of work and the PTO hours accrued.
No he tells this hearing that in January 2020, I tld him to stay home because of covid. Our company didn't talk about it until March of 2020 and implemented everything for safety until April. He actually had another company there too that fired him because of tardiness. Man I just shook my head silently.
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Our office building was going to be replacing the hallway carpeting - building management said that they would only block one of our office suite doors at a time and the office would remain accessible at all times. We received an email from the receptionist on Tuesday indicating Tuesday/Wednesday work.
So I make my usual Thursday commute into the city. When the elevator door opens, there is yellow caution tape across the doorway. I quickly duck under it and hear a guy yell WET GLUE! I stepped right in the wet glue and was then on an island of carpet with glue all around me. I gave the guy a little earful, wondering how I'm supposed to get to my office down the hall. They were going to start at the elevators at 7am and didn't expect anyone to be getting off of them that early. All six of the elevator doors were roped off with caution tape, as were BOTH of the office doors. I pulled the tape down and went into the office, absolutely fuming about people needing to work smarter and communicate better - have the building take three elevators out of service for an hour, then do the other side of the hall - don't just rope off all six and expect people to not come out of them!
So I had really sticky glue on the bottom of my right shoe, which stuck to the floor each time I took a step. I rubbed some hand sanitizer on it, which took care of some of the tackiness. It dried after a while and walking wasn't an issue anymore.
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There's nothing like beating your head against the wall as going to an unemployment hearing. My wife used to go to them for her company, and I've gone to a few for mine in the past. People fucking lie. At the end of the day, the state doesn't want to pay for them, so they know the company will get fucked.
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There's nothing like beating your head against the wall as going to an unemployment hearing. My wife used to go to them for her company, and I've gone to a few for mine in the past. People fucking lie. At the end of the day, the state doesn't want to pay for them, so they know the company will get fucked.
We will end up winning because there was no covid talk in January and he no showed for 2 weeks in a row. I already had to go to another hearing when he said we didn't pay him all we owed which was a lie. He was even paid for his PTO he accrued.
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There's nothing like beating your head against the wall as going to an unemployment hearing. My wife used to go to them for her company, and I've gone to a few for mine in the past. People fucking lie. At the end of the day, the state doesn't want to pay for them, so they know the company will get fucked.
We will end up winning because there was no covid talk in January and he no showed for 2 weeks in a row. I already had to go to another hearing when he said we didn't pay him all we owed which was a lie. He was even paid for his PTO he accrued.
Even if you win, still, what a waste of your bleeping time. Argh.
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I was pulling for the kid originally. You should have heard the conversations. He was unbalanced and delusional.
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Our office building was going to be replacing the hallway carpeting - building management said that they would only block one of our office suite doors at a time and the office would remain accessible at all times. We received an email from the receptionist on Tuesday indicating Tuesday/Wednesday work.
So I make my usual Thursday commute into the city. When the elevator door opens, there is yellow caution tape across the doorway. I quickly duck under it and hear a guy yell WET GLUE! I stepped right in the wet glue and was then on an island of carpet with glue all around me. I gave the guy a little earful, wondering how I'm supposed to get to my office down the hall. They were going to start at the elevators at 7am and didn't expect anyone to be getting off of them that early. All six of the elevator doors were roped off with caution tape, as were BOTH of the office doors. I pulled the tape down and went into the office, absolutely fuming about people needing to work smarter and communicate better - have the building take three elevators out of service for an hour, then do the other side of the hall - don't just rope off all six and expect people to not come out of them!
So I had really sticky glue on the bottom of my right shoe, which stuck to the floor each time I took a step. I rubbed some hand sanitizer on it, which took care of some of the tackiness. It dried after a while and walking wasn't an issue anymore.
I feel bad about the miscommunication about the doors, but at the risk of being a dick, not about your shoes: "...there is yellow caution tape across the doorway. I quickly duck under it..." I get it's an inconvenience, but still.
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Our office building was going to be replacing the hallway carpeting - building management said that they would only block one of our office suite doors at a time and the office would remain accessible at all times. We received an email from the receptionist on Tuesday indicating Tuesday/Wednesday work.
So I make my usual Thursday commute into the city. When the elevator door opens, there is yellow caution tape across the doorway. I quickly duck under it and hear a guy yell WET GLUE! I stepped right in the wet glue and was then on an island of carpet with glue all around me. I gave the guy a little earful, wondering how I'm supposed to get to my office down the hall. They were going to start at the elevators at 7am and didn't expect anyone to be getting off of them that early. All six of the elevator doors were roped off with caution tape, as were BOTH of the office doors. I pulled the tape down and went into the office, absolutely fuming about people needing to work smarter and communicate better - have the building take three elevators out of service for an hour, then do the other side of the hall - don't just rope off all six and expect people to not come out of them!
So I had really sticky glue on the bottom of my right shoe, which stuck to the floor each time I took a step. I rubbed some hand sanitizer on it, which took care of some of the tackiness. It dried after a while and walking wasn't an issue anymore.
I feel bad about the miscommunication about the doors, but at the risk of being a dick, not about your shoes: "...there is yellow caution tape across the doorway. I quickly duck under it..." I get it's an inconvenience, but still.
To be fair, the guys doing the carpet probably didn't expect people to be getting off of the elevators at 7am, but nobody communicated that the floor would be "inaccessible" at 7am by blocking off EVERY elevator. I'm sure they figured they could quickly do the areas in front of the elevators by 8, when people usually start to show up.
And from my perspective, I wake up at 4:30am to get on a train so i can get into the city at 7am. I spend 90 minutes riding the train, I'm tired and after 2 and a half hours, I'm just now getting to my office to start a ork day. The sooner I get in, the sooner I can do my work and get home. When you commute 50 miles and 90 minutes by train, you don't want to be told "gee, sorry, you can't come in yet."
Not my problem. I woke up super early and I'm here. I'm not going to waste time hanging in the building lobby for an hour that will cause me to go home later than I need to be (my daughter had an appointment right after school, so I can't just wait and take a later train - I'm on a strict schedule. If you want to start by the elevators, tell the building manager that so they can communicate and tell people not to come in early. We received an email stating that they would be working on Tuesday or maybe Wednesday, so I wasn't expecting anything to be blocked off on Thursday.
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Ticketmaster will not show you the prices for tickets anymore until you're already in the purchase stage. They don't want you to actually see the prices until you're under immense pressure to act because you're racing against bots and scalpers, and of course they don't include the 40% surcharges. That's an all around dick move on their part. I've typically defended TM because the reality is that they do a pretty decent job of a near impossible task. The fees are a gyp, but so are every other ticketing agency, and they're almost always inferior. This is really crooked, though. Eh, what are you gonna do. FUCK YEAH! CAPITALISM!
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Ticketmaster will not show you the prices for tickets anymore until you're already in the purchase stage. They don't want you to actually see the prices until you're under immense pressure to act because you're racing against bots and scalpers, and of course they don't include the 40% surcharges. That's an all around dick move on their part. I've typically defended TM because the reality is that they do a pretty decent job of a near impossible task. The fees are a gyp, but so are every other ticketing agency, and they're almost always inferior. This is really crooked, though. Eh, what are you gonna do. FUCK YEAH! CAPITALISM!
And those bastards are a monopoly as well.
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Ticketmaster will not show you the prices for tickets anymore until you're already in the purchase stage. They don't want you to actually see the prices until you're under immense pressure to act because you're racing against bots and scalpers, and of course they don't include the 40% surcharges. That's an all around dick move on their part. I've typically defended TM because the reality is that they do a pretty decent job of a near impossible task. The fees are a gyp, but so are every other ticketing agency, and they're almost always inferior. This is really crooked, though. Eh, what are you gonna do. FUCK YEAH! CAPITALISM!
I was looking into tickets for Volbeat/Ghost and there was a disclaimer about surge pricing. That really makes me mad - now they'll adjust prices on the fly if there is high demand. I was playing around on the site and was seeing $85 for GA floor tickets and $95 for the first level of seating above the floor. More people were buying the actual seats instead of the floor tickets, so they probably bumped up the pricing on the seats. >:(
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Ticketmaster will not show you the prices for tickets anymore until you're already in the purchase stage. They don't want you to actually see the prices until you're under immense pressure to act because you're racing against bots and scalpers, and of course they don't include the 40% surcharges. That's an all around dick move on their part. I've typically defended TM because the reality is that they do a pretty decent job of a near impossible task. The fees are a gyp, but so are every other ticketing agency, and they're almost always inferior. This is really crooked, though. Eh, what are you gonna do. FUCK YEAH! CAPITALISM!
What annoys me the most about TM is their "Official Platinum" sale. They take regular tickets and inflate the price simply because they can (sometimes more than double the regular price).
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Ticketmaster will not show you the prices for tickets anymore until you're already in the purchase stage. They don't want you to actually see the prices until you're under immense pressure to act because you're racing against bots and scalpers, and of course they don't include the 40% surcharges. That's an all around dick move on their part. I've typically defended TM because the reality is that they do a pretty decent job of a near impossible task. The fees are a gyp, but so are every other ticketing agency, and they're almost always inferior. This is really crooked, though. Eh, what are you gonna do. FUCK YEAH! CAPITALISM!
I was looking into tickets for Volbeat/Ghost and there was a disclaimer about surge pricing. That really makes me mad - now they'll adjust prices on the fly if there is high demand. I was playing around on the site and was seeing $85 for GA floor tickets and $95 for the first level of seating above the floor. More people were buying the actual seats instead of the floor tickets, so they probably bumped up the pricing on the seats. >:(
Now that's interesting. I've not seen price surging down here. It makes sense, though. In the end TM exists to bleed us dry, and the market will support whatever kind of bullshit they want to throw out at us.
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I discovered surge pricing when they did it for the Jinjer show at the HoB in Chicago. When I first looked, tix were $25 for the floor. Then a month or so later, they are $50 and the surge explanation is given. Ended up not buying tix and now it is sold out. I thought $50 was a bit high, regardless of how awesome I think Jinjer is.
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$25 is too high for Jinjer.
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$25 is too high for Jinjer.
Blasphemy!
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$25 is too high for Jinjer.
Get out of the way Grandpa.
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It's actually $25 too high.
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Ticketmaster will not show you the prices for tickets anymore until you're already in the purchase stage. They don't want you to actually see the prices until you're under immense pressure to act because you're racing against bots and scalpers, and of course they don't include the 40% surcharges. That's an all around dick move on their part. I've typically defended TM because the reality is that they do a pretty decent job of a near impossible task. The fees are a gyp, but so are every other ticketing agency, and they're almost always inferior. This is really crooked, though. Eh, what are you gonna do. FUCK YEAH! CAPITALISM!
What annoys me the most about TM is their "Official Platinum" sale. They take regular tickets and inflate the price simply because they can (sometimes more than double the regular price).
I've never paid for an Official Platinum ticket. If there's a lot of those unsold, usually the day of or before the show those tickets get reset back to the "Standard ticket" price and I'll but them then. That's how I got in the 5th row center for Coheed and Cambria without paying anything more than the standard price (and even less fees since i bought it at the box office, not online).
The local Ghost concert isn't really selling crazy so I will wait until the day of or closer to buy the ticket either for the standard price or second hand discount when people can't offload them because the concert isn't close to selling out.
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I've never paid for an Official Platinum ticket. If there's a lot of those unsold, usually the day of or before the show those tickets get reset back to the "Standard ticket" price and I'll but them then. That's how I got in the 5th row center for Coheed and Cambria without paying anything more than the standard price (and even less fees since i bought it at the box office, not online).
Bingo... I got front row for DT on the Dramatic Tour in 2011, right in front of JM. During JR's Keytar solo, I literally could've reached out and touched the keys myself if I'd wanted to - the stage was only elevated like 3-4 feet, and there wasn't any security in the small theater in Mesa. One of the best shows ever.
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A new punk staff member who has missed his second shift running. Not turning up on a Saturday morning and his phone is off. He must know I'm trying to call to abuse him. He's time with me is over. Fuck off dickhead.
Sorry, carry on.
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What didn't piss me off today? That list is a lot shorter. :lol
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A new punk staff member who has missed his second shift running. Not turning up on a Saturday morning and his phone is off. He must know I'm trying to call to abuse him. He's time with me is over. Fuck off dickhead.
Sorry, carry on.
I can't be doing with team members who are constantly off work or really late and let everyone down. I am the type of guy who gets embarrassed when i'm legitimately sick and have to call in to say
I can't come in. I've had three sick days this whole year and that's a record for me. Usually it's one or none.
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Seems like everything is pissing me off lately. Must be that time of year.... :) :)
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Seems like everything is pissing me off lately. Must be that time of year.... :) :)
But it's beautiful outside every day now. Maybe you're a psycho?
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Seems like everything is pissing me off lately. Must be that time of year.... :) :)
No, it's because the culture of society is eroding beneath us.
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Seems like everything is pissing me off lately. Must be that time of year.... :) :)
But it's beautiful outside every day now. Maybe you're a psycho?
Yeah, that must be it! :) :) :)
I will say this, though: you are right. The weather around us has been exquisite over the last couple weeks. The other night - about 7 pm I'd guess - I went outside, and just stood in my driveway looking out and the moon had just come up and it was BREATHTAKING.
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Stories like this piss me off. I 'get' it I suppose. So this creature was eating some livestock through the years. But.....it's in its natural habitat. It's not its fault you're providing it a dinner menu 24/7.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10476983/Mississippi-hunter-catches-largest-alligator-state-trapper-Florida.html
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I was responding to something a friend of mine said to me and another kid who was there was like “hey, nobody cares”. And my friends didn’t even defend me.
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Stories like this piss me off. I 'get' it I suppose. So this creature was eating some livestock through the years. But.....it's in its natural habitat. It's not its fault you're providing it a dinner menu 24/7.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10476983/Mississippi-hunter-catches-largest-alligator-state-trapper-Florida.html
I saw the story the other day, but I hadn't considered that POV. That's legit.
My issue with it is that...anyone can shoot a gun, right? I would be more impressed if he wrangled it Steve Irwin style. All the guy did was put a gun to its head. What a tough guy.
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Stories like this piss me off. I 'get' it I suppose. So this creature was eating some livestock through the years. But.....it's in its natural habitat. It's not its fault you're providing it a dinner menu 24/7.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10476983/Mississippi-hunter-catches-largest-alligator-state-trapper-Florida.html
I saw the story the other day, but I hadn't considered that POV. That's legit.
My issue with it is that...anyone can shoot a gun, right? I would be more impressed if he wrangled it Steve Irwin style. All the guy did was put a gun to its head. What a tough guy.
The act itself aside, I chuckled at the part in the article that said the guy grabbed the alligator out of the bottom of the lake. Uh, I am pretty sure you don't just grab a 900 lb alligator. :lol :lol :lol
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Anything related to junk Microsoft applications usually pisses me off on a daily basis.
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Stories like this piss me off. I 'get' it I suppose. So this creature was eating some livestock through the years. But.....it's in its natural habitat. It's not its fault you're providing it a dinner menu 24/7.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10476983/Mississippi-hunter-catches-largest-alligator-state-trapper-Florida.html
I agree. Fuck this piece of shit.
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I need to get a new phone because mine will no longer charge. I just can't seem to get the cord to plug in and hit the right connections to charge. Perfectly functional otherwise. This is my third phone in a row that I have to replace for this reason. Each lasted about 2 years, so not horrible, but it's an annoying reason to have to replace a phone that is otherwise in great shape. Apparently I am hard on the port. I'm going to get one with wireless charging this time.
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I need to get a new phone because mine will no longer charge. I just can't seem to get the cord to plug in and hit the right connections to charge. Perfectly functional otherwise. This is my third phone in a row that I have to replace for this reason. Each lasted about 2 years, so not horrible, but it's an annoying reason to have to replace a phone that is otherwise in great shape. Apparently I am hard on the port. I'm going to get one with wireless charging this time.
I had this issue. Apparently it's quite comment with lint getting into the charger port from being in your pocket. I tried and tried and tried to get it out and just couldn't. I ended up relying on using a wireless charger for a few months before someone actually stole my phone. For which, I'm sure they weren't happy when they couldn't charge it :lol
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That happened to me and I cleaned mine out with a toothpick. Probably not the best thing to do, but it got the job done and my phone charges now.
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I need to get a new phone because mine will no longer charge. I just can't seem to get the cord to plug in and hit the right connections to charge. Perfectly functional otherwise. This is my third phone in a row that I have to replace for this reason. Each lasted about 2 years, so not horrible, but it's an annoying reason to have to replace a phone that is otherwise in great shape. Apparently I am hard on the port. I'm going to get one with wireless charging this time.
I've had this issue many times as well.
I found myself buying a new phone last Friday unexpectedly. The screen on my 2.5 year old device decided it was time to give up. The Verizon store in the mall had no phones in stock that weren't iPhones. The stand in Costco only had two phones in stock - the lowest rated Motorola Device, and the new Samsung Galaxy 22 Ultra. I went with the Galaxy. It's far beyond anything I'll ever need in a phone, and it was more expensive than the last three phones I had combined. I really didn't want something that high-end but inventory is hard to come by these days I guess. The salesman had no clue when they could expect any mid-range phones to be back in stock.
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That happened to me and I cleaned mine out with a toothpick. Probably not the best thing to do, but it got the job done and my phone charges now.
I've cleaned it out, so it's not a lint related issue. My last phone I actually busted off the little pin in there trying to clean it out when it wouldn't charge, so I'm reluctant to do a whole lot at this point.
I need to get a new phone because mine will no longer charge. I just can't seem to get the cord to plug in and hit the right connections to charge. Perfectly functional otherwise. This is my third phone in a row that I have to replace for this reason. Each lasted about 2 years, so not horrible, but it's an annoying reason to have to replace a phone that is otherwise in great shape. Apparently I am hard on the port. I'm going to get one with wireless charging this time.
I've had this issue many times as well.
I found myself buying a new phone last Friday unexpectedly. The screen on my 2.5 year old device decided it was time to give up. The Verizon store in the mall had no phones in stock that weren't iPhones. The stand in Costco only had two phones in stock - the lowest rated Motorola Device, and the new Samsung Galaxy 22 Ultra. I went with the Galaxy. It's far beyond anything I'll ever need in a phone, and it was more expensive than the last three phones I had combined. I really didn't want something that high-end but inventory is hard to come by these days I guess. The salesman had no clue when they could expect any mid-range phones to be back in stock.
That's not good. I never spend more then $250 on a phone, simply because I don't need premium features. Hopefully I can find something soon.
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Phone not charging happens to me all the time. I'm a carpenter and I constantly get little bits of saw dust and what-not in the charging port from my phone being in my pocket. My clean out kit includes a toothpick, a small plastic doo-dad fashioned from a plastic bread bag clip and some caned air (with a long straw-nozzle that is used for cleaning electronics). A careful,gentle cleaning usually works. I have thought about putting a small piece of tape over the usb-c charging port but I never remember to do that.
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Phone not charging happens to me all the time. I'm a carpenter and I constantly get little bits of saw dust and what-not in the charging port from my phone being in my pocket. My clean out kit includes a toothpick, a small plastic doo-dad fashioned from a plastic bread bag clip and some caned air (with a long straw-nozzle that is used for cleaning electronics). A careful,gentle cleaning usually works. I have thought about putting a small piece of tape over the usb-c charging port but I never remember to do that.
Buy a box of bandaids.
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The charger on my Galaxy doesn't work well - the port on the phone must have widened from having the charger in and using the phone at times with the cord being handled and moved. I just rely on wireless charging, since I don't feel like taking it to be fixed. the phone is a year and a half old, so I could get a new one later this year if I feel like it.
It's more annoying when I want to transfer MP3's from my computer to the micro SD card. I was thinking of finding an app that lets you send the files via wi-fi, rather than having to jam the cord into the port and then pushing down on the cord one-handed to make it connect to the computer.
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What a shit day. Sitting in the work carpark right now at 9pm with a flat car battery. Was fighting with the misses on the phone and had the ignition on. Wasn't meant to be arguing that long and battery dies.
Waiting for roadside assistance which is going to take up to 90 minutes. :tup :lol
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What a shit day. Sitting in the work carpark right now at 9pm with a flat car battery. Was fighting with the misses on the phone and had the ignition on. Wasn't meant to be arguing that long and battery dies.
Waiting for roadside assistance which is going to take up to 90 minutes. :tup :lol
Arguing with your partner can be so draining.
(I'll show myself out....)
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:lol
I hate when people don't read the description when I list things on the FB Marketplace.
(https://i.redd.it/hq3a7jd4vrm81.png)
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Don't get me started; I've had that running conversation with my brother and my stepson (we've all sold a fair amount on Marketplace). My son had a car that was partially parted out, and he wanted to sell the rest as a unit, and said so. "Interested in selling those door panels?" Ugh.
The only thing worse is the people that send you an offer for like half of what you're asking and say "I have cash!" Well, duh, I'm certainly not taking your personal check, you moron.
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I feel like I was beaten with a bat and then lit on fire on the right side mid back and chest. I heard of shingles before but now experiencing it. And i just started getting a rash. Absolutely BRUTAL!
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My MiL is battling shingles now. Says it is like a woman in high heels is dancing on her stomach.
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My MiL is battling shingles now. Says it is like a woman in high heels is dancing on her stomach.
Im sorry to hear that. She's right. This is brutal. Getting old sucks, vertigo and now this.
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My dad has chronic arthritis, had both knees replaced twice, both hips once, had spinal fusion surgery (like Joe Montana), battled non-Hodgkins lymphoma twice, had half his colon removed, and has had four foot surgeries…. And he says shingles is the worst pain he’s ever endured.
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My dad has chronic arthritis, had both knees replaced twice, both hips once, had spinal fusion surgery (like Joe Montana), battled non-Hodgkins lymphoma twice, had half his colon removed, and has had four foot surgeries…. And he says shingles is the worst pain he’s ever endured.
Just.... WOW! I'm sorry he went through all that. But yeah, I had no idea it would be like this. I went to the ER in agony! They gave me Valtrex the herpes med. Is it even worth taking? I worry side effects outweigh the benefits.
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I had an old boss that told me it's the worse pain he ever felt... that seemed to stick with me. Mrs.jingle and I just turned 50 last year, so we made sure to get the vax tout de suite. She's just getting her second dose this week, I'll get mine sometime next month.
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I keep meaning to get the Shingles vax. Will have to do that soon. Hope you recover quickly Glasser, that sounds nasty.
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I keep meaning to get the Shingles vax. Will have to do that soon. Hope you recover quickly Glasser, that sounds nasty.
My Dr. told me to get the shingles shot last Dec. I got my booster today because I know of family that had shingles on their face. Not pretty!
Don't slack on getting the shot, it's quick and easy.......
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Looks like I know what I'm doing in just under 5 years.
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This pain is absolutely unreal. It came out of nowhere. I never thought I would get it. I'll be 52 in May but when I hit 50 I started falling apart, Knee surgeries, vertigo, now shingles. I'm trying not to focus on the pain and I don't like taking Advil or Tylenol because it causes other things but I may have to fold because its getting worse.
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Anyone who had chicken pox is susceptible to Shingles.
I had shingles when I was young at around 7. I had it on my chest by my heart area and in back in the same general area. I have scars from the blisters popping, and when they pop that's what really hurt. I had to sleep with my chest open and on my back because it hurt when things rubbed against it.
My aunties had it as well, and I would sympathize with them.
I would say, shingles is one pain tolerance I felt young and it could play into how I view pain tolerance as well.
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I have to wait until I'm 50, so 2 years, but why can't I get it early?
I've asked my Doc and he says I have to wait. I just Googled it and apparently I *can* get it before 50 but he's not being cooperative. Weird.
EDIT: Now I see that it's only FDA-approved for 50 or older.
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Met with our tax guy today. :censored
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Let my mood snowball into blatant rule breaking on a gta rp server I've been trying to stay on the good side of. I don't know if it'll ever be the same. Probably not.
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Not today specifically, but I have started to run routes at work in larger vehicles, and I have noticed how little people seem to care about their own safety when around them. From pedestrians walking behind me while I back up, to, and I shit you now, a woman a few days ago letting her young children on scooters ride circles around my van, in the street as I was double parked and very obviously trying to pull out and drive away.
And don't get me started on other drivers. I thought people were stupid when I am in the smaller vans, but like... come the fuck on... I am in a vehicle that weighs between 15,000 and 20,000 lbs, and you're going to cut me off?
I hate people :lol
At least I know that if anything happened, most of the time I am on camera, my safety score with the company is pretty high, and if I so end up in an accident, I am bigger and will win.
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Tourists.
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Tourists.
Ugh. The worst kind are birth righters. Drive me crazy. Or did, at least, when I lived in Jerusalem.
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Tourists.
Ugh. The worst kind are birth righters. Drive me crazy. Or did, at least, when I lived in Jerusalem.
Haha, I was referring more to the people that fly a) dressed like they are about to binge-watch Yellowstone on their couch; b) can't quite grasp the concept of "ONE carry-on and ONE personal item", and c) haven't yet experienced the privilege of having your connecting flight leave without you because you couldn't make it to the gate.
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And those sprints to make the connecting flights are the worst.
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The charger on my Galaxy doesn't work well - the port on the phone must have widened from having the charger in and using the phone at times with the cord being handled and moved. I just rely on wireless charging, since I don't feel like taking it to be fixed. the phone is a year and a half old, so I could get a new one later this year if I feel like it.
It's more annoying when I want to transfer MP3's from my computer to the micro SD card. I was thinking of finding an app that lets you send the files via wi-fi, rather than having to jam the cord into the port and then pushing down on the cord one-handed to make it connect to the computer.
Not sure if you found something, but I use an app called Solid Explorer. I used my Google Rewards credits to buy the full version. It has the ability to spin up an ftp server that I access via Windows file explorer by just typing in the IP address and port that the app gives me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer2&hl=en_US&gl=US
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The charger on my Galaxy doesn't work well - the port on the phone must have widened from having the charger in and using the phone at times with the cord being handled and moved. I just rely on wireless charging, since I don't feel like taking it to be fixed. the phone is a year and a half old, so I could get a new one later this year if I feel like it.
It's more annoying when I want to transfer MP3's from my computer to the micro SD card. I was thinking of finding an app that lets you send the files via wi-fi, rather than having to jam the cord into the port and then pushing down on the cord one-handed to make it connect to the computer.
Not sure if you found something, but I use an app called Solid Explorer. I used my Google Rewards credits to buy the full version. It has the ability to spin up an ftp server that I access via Windows file explorer by just typing in the IP address and port that the app gives me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer2&hl=en_US&gl=US
Thank you! I haven't found anything yet. I may give this a try.
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Last month My wife applied for an internal Supervisor job she has more or less been doing the last year-and-a-half (training/supervising the staff in her small dept of 4, which not long after COVID, her Supervisor quit for another job outside of her company).
The management interviewed 2 external candidates on Monday.
They have yet to interview her nor the 2 other internal candidates at her company.
It was announced today they are near finalizing who they will hire for this position.
If they do not hire her or at least another 1 of the internal candidates, she will quit her job.
Not even a fucking interview? lol :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn
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That's fucked. Most places try to find a reason to promote from within first - except in circumstances where fresh ideas and perspectives are of paramount importance.
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That is fucked.
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I'm mad at myself for scheduling a doctor's appointment that I had to fast for at 1 pm this afternoon. I'm so hangry right now!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Last month My wife applied for an internal Supervisor job she has more or less been doing the last year-and-a-half (training/supervising the staff in her small dept of 4, which not long after COVID, her Supervisor quit for another job outside of her company).
The management interviewed 2 external candidates on Monday.
They have yet to interview her nor the 2 other internal candidates at her company.
It was announced today they are near finalizing who they will hire for this position.
If they do not hire her or at least another 1 of the internal candidates, she will quit her job.
Not even a fucking interview? lol :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn
My guess is they're bringing in an outsider for 25%+ less than what an internal candidate would have expected.
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Last month My wife applied for an internal Supervisor job she has more or less been doing the last year-and-a-half (training/supervising the staff in her small dept of 4, which not long after COVID, her Supervisor quit for another job outside of her company).
The management interviewed 2 external candidates on Monday.
They have yet to interview her nor the 2 other internal candidates at her company.
It was announced today they are near finalizing who they will hire for this position.
If they do not hire her or at least another 1 of the internal candidates, she will quit her job.
Not even a fucking interview? lol :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn
My guess is they're bringing in an outsider for 25%+ less than what an internal candidate would have expected.
In this job market, it'd probably be the other way around. I know if I up and quit, it would cost them a lot more to backfill someone with comparable experience.
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So-called manager created another email storm and blew up everyone's inbox. Typical idiot with a title and doesn't really manage anything. Sick to fucking death of it.
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Deductibles. I remember paying for insurance and there was no such thing as a deductibles. Now, it's not one flat deductible, it's 5 or 6. Try tracking it. I thought I hit my deductible? No sir, not for your lab work.
I have a $775.00 bill that I have to pay $730.00. What a joke.
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whats the point of insurance at that point?
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whats the point of insurance at that point?
Tell me about it. I can't believe that all that bloodwork was not covered and you have to hit your deductible first.
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That blows, Joe. lol US "health"
business care.
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That blows, Joe. lol US "health"business care.
It's frustrating because it is truly hard to track. I'm solid in math. That's a big part of my job but boy, they love to spin you around.
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That blows, Joe. lol US "health"business care.
It's frustrating because it is truly hard to track. I'm solid in math. That's a big part of my job but boy, they love to spin you around.
It is hard to follow, and it's some thing you have to be committed to. It can be extremely confusing to follow the money.
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That blows, Joe. lol US "health"business care.
It's frustrating because it is truly hard to track. I'm solid in math. That's a big part of my job but boy, they love to spin you around.
It is hard to follow, and it's some thing you have to be committed to. It can be extremely confusing to follow the money.
It is, and they do this because they know most will give up trying to calculate it all.
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So, I was in the carpark at one of my venues for work, and I always park away from the entrance, A. for customers to have close carparks and B. less chance of getting hit obviously. I was at this pool for maybe an hour and a half. There was no car either side when I pulled up, and no car either side when I left. I walk out and some fucking asshole basically rammed by back door. Check this;
(https://i.postimg.cc/3rstkr1M/car-damage-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwF5cCRB/car-damage-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvY8Rrj5/car-damage-3.jpg)
No note, nothing. FFUUUCCCKK.....my car is 8 years old now and got 257000K on it, so she's getting on, but fuck me this ain't right. That's not just a small ding, Stevie Wonder would have done less damage driving!
Anyway, spent the morning trying to get out what I can. I'm not paying to fix it or claiming it on insurance or anything, I'm not that fussed. Came up okay;
(https://i.postimg.cc/hj33y9Vh/attempted-fixed-car-damage-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0GDJhxR/attempted-fixed-car-damage-2.jpg)
I'm fine with this. I used a regular toilet plunger to get a little of the dents out and I'll buy a paint touch up pen or something tomorrow when stores are open to try and fix the little specs that's been chipped out of my paint.
Seriously......fuck people!!!!! :censored >:(
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Man, I hate people. That sucks.
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Mother fucker, people suck.
Years ago, I had some ass-clown rear-end me when I was stopped at a red light. Nothing too bad, but it was more than just a love tap. We're on a major/busy 3-lane road, so I didn't want to just stop and block a lane while we exchanged information. So when the light turns green, I turn right down the side-street assuming the guy is gonna follow me ... and he blows on by, taking off on the main road. What in the actual fuck!?!?! I did a quick U-turn, and miraculously was able to see that he tried to slip down the NEXT road before I caught up with him. Fortunately I did, and he then pulled over all apologetic and shit. He turned out to be a bigger ass-clown, trying to get me to take my car to his "uncle's" shop for repairs cuz he didn't A) want to go thru Insurance, and B) didn't want to pay the $1,400 *my* repair shop estimated it to me.
Anyway... people suck. Sorry you gotta be reminded of that every time you look at your car now, Kade.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, it's really not the biggest deal to me, but just people hitting and running is the most annoying thing.
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Back in like 2013 when I moved from America to Israel, I was selling all my stuff or giving it away. I gave away my couch, which was a nice couch, and the people who ended up getting it were loading it into their truck and dropped in my car. Making a huge dent and tear in a door. They said they’d take care of it and then just completely blew me off. Got a free couch and then ditched me when they messed up my car. I was selling the car and moving a week later so didn’t have time to fix it nice. Just had to take a loss on the amount the car went for.
Real nice.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, it's really not the biggest deal to me, but just people hitting and running is the most annoying thing.
You're a better man than I. I remember a few years back I got my first brand new car, parked it way out back at the grocery store while I went in for a few minutes. Come back and some hit my rear quarter, brand new car, still had temp plates.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, it's really not the biggest deal to me, but just people hitting and running is the most annoying thing.
I posted about it here somewhere, but last summer I bought a new car, and exactly two months later someone hit my car overnight, broke my side-view mirror, dents all over the drivers side of the car. I was a lot more upset than you are so props to you.
Sorry this happened but one of those situation where there really isn't much you can do.
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whats the point of insurance at that point?
Tell me about it. I can't believe that all that bloodwork was not covered and you have to hit your deductible first.
It's not just deductibles either. The wife and I had 2 recent instances where procedures needed to be done. We called the insurance company in advance and verified the facility, docs, and lab were in-network. Well, guess what, the anesthesiologist was not. They were contracted out. We got two huge unexpected bills. BUT...we fought it and eventually won. What a crock. With health care there always seems to be an unforseen charge lurking.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, it's really not the biggest deal to me, but just people hitting and running is the most annoying thing.
You're a better man than I. I remember a few years back I got my first brand new car, parked it way out back at the grocery store while I went in for a few minutes. Come back and some hit my rear quarter, brand new car, still had temp plates.
Thanks guys. Yeah, it's really not the biggest deal to me, but just people hitting and running is the most annoying thing.
I posted about it here somewhere, but last summer I bought a new car, and exactly two months later someone hit my car overnight, broke my side-view mirror, dents all over the drivers side of the car. I was a lot more upset than you are so props to you.
Sorry this happened but one of those situation where there really isn't much you can do.
Yeah cheers guys. I mean that would fire me up if the car was new so having a car for 8 years kind of makes it not as annoying, but still fucking annoying! :lol
Exactly though, what do you do. We have CCTV but I parked so far away the cameras don't cover that area lol!
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You did an awesome job cleaning that up.
When I was a store manager, I always made sure one of the parking lot cameras was aimed right at me car. Especially on days when I had to fire or discipline someone.
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You did an awesome job cleaning that up.
When I was a store manager, I always made sure one of the parking lot cameras was aimed right at me car. Especially on days when I had to fire or discipline someone.
:lol
I didn't fire anyone yesterday so I think I can rule that out, but you never know, I've pissed heaps of people off in my time! :rollin
Yeah, even this morning, it looks okay. Pretty crinkled but I'll go shopping today and see if I can get some touch up paint and tidy it up a little more. But I'm not that handy so pretty pleased with myself!
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It's not just deductibles either. The wife and I had 2 recent instances where procedures needed to be done. We called the insurance company in advance and verified the facility, docs, and lab were in-network. Well, guess what, the anesthesiologist was not. They were contracted out. We got two huge unexpected bills. BUT...we fought it and eventually won. What a crock. With health care there always seems to be an unforseen charge lurking.
Tell me about it. I had to get some minor tests done last year for carpal tunnel syndrome and my out of pocket ended up being quite a bit. It was quite annoying. The only good part is one visit to my PT (who I see like once a year) resulted in him giving me some simple exercises that all but cleared up the syndrome within a month, so that was the good part. It will still ache a little on occasion, but it is 95% better than it was for the first part of 2021. Getting older sucks. :lol :lol
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I'm going through something similar. I have a surgery next week, got multiple quotes prior and today I get my bill I have to pay for my surgery and it's almost $2k more. I call and they don't know why it's so much higher. Dealing with anything related to medical billing just sends me into a blind rage.
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My Plex server took a dump. I'm so pissed. I spent so much time and effort curating and configuring my library and the whole database just disappeared. All of my content still exists, but Plex acts like I never set it up before. This happened once before and I was able to recover it. This time, no dice. Looks like I have to rebuild the whole thing again. Really not happy.
EDIT: WHEW! I saved it. While going through the settings I noticed it was all of a sudden backing up the database to my wife's account on the PC. No idea how or why. I re-pointed the backup path and shutdown and restarted everything. Boom, my library is back. Some minor things got reset, but all of my hard work is still in place. That was an odd one.
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I had the same thing happen to my plex server. Do you run a dedicated NAS or just running it off a home PC?
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I had the same thing happen to my plex server. Do you run a dedicated NAS or just running it off a home PC?
I have a dedicated 10 TB drive for video and 2 TB for music in my main rig. My wife almost never uses the computer. She's all smartphone and iPad. I'm just really glad I noticed the backup path. Once I corrected the path everything magically came back. I had been meaning to find out what it takes to do a full backup of my DB and I did. Used 7zip and it came out to like a 9 GB file. I don't want this to happen again.
Any media that I don't have physical copies of is backed up onto smaller external drives. I can always re-rip any of my physical stuff if something goes wrong. It's more a cost saving measure.
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So I go in for my annual check up today. I've been going to the same clinic for more than 10 years now and I have always used my work photo ID so they can check to be sure I am who I say I am. I've let them know in the past that taking a copy of my driver's license is not going to happen - I've been the victim of identity theft so I'm very protective of my IDs. I know they have noted this in my chart because mostly I never get any guff about it. So today the receptionist says my ID is "not acceptable" and she needs to take a copy of my license. I patiently explain why that will not be happening and another woman comes up and sees the computer screen and points out to the receptionist that it has been ok'd to take my work photo ID. So I'm relieved.
Then with the very next breath this receptionist says, "I just need to have a credit card or debit card on file in keeping with our new office policy." :facepalm:
I couldn't believe my ears. I say, "What for? I'm here for my annual exam and my insurance pays 100% of it so what on Earth would your clinic need with my credit card information?" She just looks at me with a blank face. I gather my things planning to walk out of the clinic if this goes any further and the other woman again says, "It's fine. We don't need it."
Does anyone else have to give credit card or debit card information at their primary doctor's office? WTF?
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Never heard of that. I just use my card for my co-pays.
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Does anyone else have to give credit card or debit card information at their primary doctor's office? WTF?
Not for primary doctor, but for a specialist. I gave it to them when asked not thinking much about it. After the minor surgery, there was even a dispute with my insurance where they wanted to bill me the entirety of the bill for months, luckily they never charged my card I had on file with them. It got sorted out eventually, but I was actually worried and then relieved that me handing that over didn't become more problematic. Having said that, I have no idea if this is normal or not because I don't have too many experiences to reflect on regarding this.
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I typically pay cash for any co-pay. This is the first time I've ever heard of a primary care clinic saying they required a card "on file."
I'm definitely looking for a new primary care provider. Not just for this reason but my experience today was the last straw.
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What is cash? :lol
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My co-pays are never more than $15. I always have a twenty on me.
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Never asked to have a card on file but I've paid with my card
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What is cash? :lol
I still use cash for literally everything. Can't let go of it. :lol
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It's my understanding that collections for medical services is a nightmare. Between that and the trick of having to move patients through more quickly due to the loads during COVID, I can see it as a process improvement. That's not to say that a patient shouldn't be able to opt out, I'm not taking sides here, but just pointing out why it might be a thing. The urgent care near me has a card on file, and I gave them my Flex Card. Can't be used for anything else, and if one of my kids goes in, they can use it.
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So, I was in the carpark at one of my venues for work, and I always park away from the entrance, A. for customers to have close carparks and B. less chance of getting hit obviously. I was at this pool for maybe an hour and a half. There was no car either side when I pulled up, and no car either side when I left. I walk out and some fucking asshole basically rammed by back door. Check this;
(https://i.postimg.cc/3rstkr1M/car-damage-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwF5cCRB/car-damage-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvY8Rrj5/car-damage-3.jpg)
No note, nothing. FFUUUCCCKK.....my car is 8 years old now and got 257000K on it, so she's getting on, but fuck me this ain't right. That's not just a small ding, Stevie Wonder would have done less damage driving!
Anyway, spent the morning trying to get out what I can. I'm not paying to fix it or claiming it on insurance or anything, I'm not that fussed. Came up okay;
(https://i.postimg.cc/hj33y9Vh/attempted-fixed-car-damage-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0GDJhxR/attempted-fixed-car-damage-2.jpg)
I'm fine with this. I used a regular toilet plunger to get a little of the dents out and I'll buy a paint touch up pen or something tomorrow when stores are open to try and fix the little specs that's been chipped out of my paint.
Seriously......fuck people!!!!! :censored >:(
Just don't overdo the correction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4fBbhyzE9A
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Did a full quest on Call of Duty Zombies with two of my mates. About twenty minutes from the end, the internet crashed. I lost all the progress on the hardest one there is. I have to do the whole quest again to get the permanent weapon rarity boost.
Not.
Happy.
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First world problems. lol
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Did a full quest on Call of Duty Zombies with two of my mates. About twenty minutes from the end, the internet crashed. I lost all the progress on the hardest one there is. I have to do the whole quest again to get the permanent weapon rarity boost.
Not.
Happy.
My deepest condolences, I'm not sure how you'll recover from this one.
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:lol
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Today's weather in NE Indiana is 51 degrees and rainy. It feels like we skipped straight from winter back into winter. I know the calendar says it's spring, but holy balls does the weather say otherwise.
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We were told that as of tomorrow, we'll be back in masks at work.
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We were told that as of tomorrow, we'll be back in masks at work.
My brother told me the same thing. He works in Mass.
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So our masks have been off for a couple months now but I still wear mine. Reason: I work in food facility where hair nets are required and beard nets for anyone with facial hair. I always hated wearing the beard net so never grew my goatee. But since masks came in I got to do it and now I still wear it just cause I am used to it (more so than the bear net) and I am not ready to part ways with the goatee. teehee
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We were told that as of tomorrow, we'll be back in masks at work.
That is annoying.
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We were told that as of tomorrow, we'll be back in masks at work.
That is annoying.
So's a bad case of COVID.
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We were told that as of tomorrow, we'll be back in masks at work.
Haven't really been following. State/local mandate? Wasn't aware of any municipalities enacting new requirements.
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It's funny how differently I reacted to TAC's post.
People seem mostly concerned about having to wear masks. I think I just got scared about having to go back to the office full time. Masks or no, I would be quite miserable working from the office five days a week.
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I had to work every day through the pandemic. Also had to implement protocols for covid. I have to admit, it wore me down.
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It's funny how differently I reacted to TAC's post.
People seem mostly concerned about having to wear masks. I think I just got scared about having to go back to the office full time. Masks or no, I would be quite miserable working from the office five days a week.
I've worked 5-6 days a week in a grocery store through the whole thing.
And I'm not directing this at you personally Adami, but this pushes a button. Get the fuck back to work people and quit whining.
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It's funny how differently I reacted to TAC's post.
People seem mostly concerned about having to wear masks. I think I just got scared about having to go back to the office full time. Masks or no, I would be quite miserable working from the office five days a week.
I've worked 5-6 days a week in a grocery store through the whole thing.
And I'm not directing this at you personally Adami, but this pushes a button. Get the fuck back to work people and quit whining.
Not all “work” needs to be accomplished in an office, or a company location. I never “left” work during the pandemic, so I don’t have anything to “get back to” either. :biggrin:
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I'm sure you'll opt to attend the next cocktail party from home.
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I'm sure you'll opt to attend the next cocktail party from home.
Just to clarify from my personal stance, my office work is driving about an hour or more each way in NYC traffic to a white room with bad lighting to sit and talk to people on the phone, which I can do at home, and not lose 2-3 hours of my day and be depressed sitting in an office for no benefit to anyone what so ever.
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Yeah, traffic sucks.
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I freely admit that my "I'd rather work at the office than at home" stance might be different if I didn't work 10 minutes from home, very little of which is highway. If I worked an hour from home, I am sure my stance would be different.
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Now you know how most of us feel about carts not put back in the coral!! :rollin :rollin
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How can you put the cart back in the corral if you don't leave the house?
And while I'm at it..fuck instacart shoppers!
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Brace yourself then, because working from home is going to become more and more prevalent sooner rather than later.
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Brace yourself then, because working from home is going to become more and more prevalent sooner rather than later.
So I have no issue with anyone that works from home if they are lucky enough to do so. I take issue with people whining about having to go into the office being all ascared of Covid or the inconvenience.
It's like complaining about your taxes because your salary is too high. STFU.
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Brace yourself then, because working from home is going to become more and more prevalent sooner rather than later.
The one industry that I doubt will have that is the food industry. People still enjoy the dine-in experience and will continue to go out to eat for occasions.
I actually work two jobs in the food industry and it's a job that is not easy and for myself, I can handle it. And honestly, the convenience of getting food delivered by doordash or Uber Eats has impacted the kitchen a lot. There are more orders and therefore the time people receive their good increases, yet people expect it right away. At times it's impossible to get that food out on time.
And that expectation of people demanding their food to be done quick is where I get pissed off at. I just tell the cashier's, people gonna learn patience now.
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Brace yourself then, because working from home is going to become more and more prevalent sooner rather than later.
The pandemic did the impossible at my work. The majority of IT had to maintain an office either downtown in Chicago or in a building in the western suburbs. They didn't trust that we would get the job done. As of now, new employees in IT are automatically work from home and a couple of floors we had downtown and almost the entire suburban building are almost entirely empty.
Turns out, productivity magically increased. That is why I pushed for work from home. I've been doing it for years but they let me slide because my commute to any location is atrocious. Then I got the blessing to officially be at home. Then a few months later the shoe dropped and everybody is. With gas prices what they are, I'd need another job just to fill my tank up if I had to go in.
I was at the store today and the cart corral was far away. I walked it all the way there.
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Driving into Chicago makes driving into Boston look like driving down a country road. I just remember traffic being ridiculous.
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Driving into Chicago makes driving into Boston look like driving down a country road. I just remember traffic being ridiculous.
I had to venture into the far west suburbs today and wanted to scream at the traffic. I'm just not used to it anymore. I live in a rural area just outside the madness.
You want ridiculous, when I do have to go downtown, which is rare, if I go the public transportation route I am looking at bare minimum 2 1/2 hours from my house to the office. Half-hour in the car to the closest train station, 1 hr 20 min to 1 hr 40 min train ride depending on which one I get and then another 20-30 minutes to get from the station to the building in Streeterville.
Driving is around 1.5 hours on average to get to the same place but then I also have to find somewhere to park and pay for that.
I love the city, but I hate going to the city. Just so much of a hassle.
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We stayed in Schaumberg, and took the train in. I don't remember the train ride being wicked long. I remember seeing the traffic as the train went right down the middle of the highway.
We had come from the south and just driving the highway south of the city to Schaumberg was a nightmare.
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It's funny how differently I reacted to TAC's post.
People seem mostly concerned about having to wear masks. I think I just got scared about having to go back to the office full time. Masks or no, I would be quite miserable working from the office five days a week.
I've worked 5-6 days a week in a grocery store through the whole thing.
And I'm not directing this at you personally Adami, but this pushes a button. Get the fuck back to work people and quit whining.
Yep.
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I'm sure you'll opt to attend the next cocktail party from home.
:lol
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Me too.
I've worked through the entire thing. We had collectively 3 months of lockdown over the whole thing, but working with the public, I've been around sometimes a couple of hundred people in a day and other venues come in contact with disabled, sick, elderly people as well as masses of school children. So people complaining about going to the office with a few select people, and the same people all day, is bullshit, sorry.
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Brace yourself then, because working from home is going to become more and more prevalent sooner rather than later.
As Tim said, that's not the issue. If you can, good luck to you.
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If someone is lucky enough to have a job that you can work from home, great. But I find bitching about having to go into the office offensive.
Me too.
I've worked through the entire thing. We had collectively 3 months of lockdown over the whole thing, but working with the public, I've been around sometimes a couple of hundred people in a day and other venues come in contact with disabled, sick, elderly people as well as masses of school children. So people complaining about going to the office with a few select people, and the same people all day, is bullshit, sorry.
Guys ... I love you both and all, but for every story like the two of you, there’s me and the 7 other people that were at my work gathering and catch it while at the first in-person work situation in 2+ years.
For as comfortable as the two of you are in being out in public/crowded places, there’s just as many that aren’t - for very good reason.
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You got more cases of Covid in 10 minutes than my store has had in a year and a half. What kind of petri dish do you work in? :lol
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You got more cases of Covid in 10 minutes than my store has had in a year and a half. What kind of petri dish do you work in? :lol
It was at a bar/pub as a social gathering after hours.
You haven’t been following much about Omicron, have ya?
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You got more cases of Covid in 10 minutes than my store has had in a year and a half. What kind of petri dish do you work in? :lol
It was at a bar/pub as a social gathering after hours.
You haven’t been following much about Omicron, have ya?
Do they have a new album coming out?
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You got more cases of Covid in 10 minutes than my store has had in a year and a half. What kind of petri dish do you work in? :lol
That's a great strike rate.
Out of about 40 staff for me about 60-70% got it, which is hefty but has been just manageable. Some had it bad some not. They are either young party animals or parents with kids. And I still had to fucking get it. :lol
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You got more cases of Covid in 10 minutes than my store has had in a year and a half. What kind of petri dish do you work in? :lol
It was at a bar/pub as a social gathering after hours.
You haven’t been following much about Omicron, have ya?
I'll admit, I don't follow a damn thing. If COVID wasn't a thing, I wouldn't have even gotten a test and went to work as normal. I'm fucking ignorant.
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I envy that. Ignorance is bliss!
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I see it on the news daily. Can't avoid it.
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I see it on the news daily. Can't avoid it.
It's daily news here also, (probably not as much as over there) but I just don't watch or read the news.
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I watch to see the local weather. I do check tht CDC as a manager to predict what's happening.
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I have a wife that follows this shit like a cougar stalking a wounded chicken. :lol
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I have a wife that follows this shit like a cougar stalking a wounded chicken. :lol
That's probably why I'm so ignorant and casual about it. I just don't read about it so the triggers and info simply isn't there for me to think about and worry about it all.
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My manager can always be counted on to piss me off. Completely clueless. Nothing but an unengaged figurehead puppet with a title, just like all the managers above him. :loser:
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I have a wife that follows this shit like a cougar stalking a wounded chicken. :lol
That's probably why I'm so ignorant and casual about it. I just don't read about it so the triggers and info simply isn't there for me to think about and worry about it all.
It's amazing how easy it is to AVOID all the noise, though (you'll notice I don't call it "news"; the standard for actual news is about the same as the standard for clothing at a strip club; that is, the bare minimum pardon the pun). I used to be a 24-7 news guy. I'd have a TV in my office with one of the 24-hour news networks on in the background (usually CNN, though sometimes I would listen to Sandra Smith on Fox). And it got to a point - during the Impeachment circus - where I had to say "time to get sober". And I did. I watch the local news for weather, and if it gets too political, I just walk away. My local station is a Fox network, so there is that ridicilous Young Sheldon on after, so there's no incentive to stick around, and on the rare occasion when the wonderful Rachel Frank isn't doing the weather, I go to the local NBC affiliate to watch Ryan Hanrahan. As soon as the national broadcast with Lester Holt comes on, BAM, TV is off, or I'm in the DVR.
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Yep, it's out there constantly, but incredibly easy to avoid it pretty much completely.
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My manager can always be counted on to piss me off. Completely clueless. Nothing but an unengaged figurehead puppet with a title, just like all the managers above him. :loser:
You're definitely not alone with that sentiment.
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Yep, it's out there constantly, but incredibly easy to avoid it pretty much completely.
It can be difficult to avoid the shit if you're stuck in a room with co-workers who talk about it daily.
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My manager can always be counted on to piss me off. Completely clueless. Nothing but an unengaged figurehead puppet with a title, just like all the managers above him. :loser:
You're definitely not alone with that sentiment.
No doubt. It might as well be a virus like Covid.
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My manager can always be counted on to piss me off. Completely clueless. Nothing but an unengaged figurehead puppet with a title, just like all the managers above him. :loser:
You're definitely not alone with that sentiment.
No doubt. It might as well be a virus like Covid.
Great analogy.
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I have a wife that follows this shit like a cougar stalking a wounded chicken. :lol
That's probably why I'm so ignorant and casual about it. I just don't read about it so the triggers and info simply isn't there for me to think about and worry about it all.
Well, you are indestructible so there is no need to worry about it for you.
If Zeus can't take you out, how is a virus? :biggrin:
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I have a wife that follows this shit like a cougar stalking a wounded chicken. :lol
That's probably why I'm so ignorant and casual about it. I just don't read about it so the triggers and info simply isn't there for me to think about and worry about it all.
Well, you are indestructible so there is no need to worry about it for you.
If Zeus can't take you out, how is a virus? :biggrin:
He's got a point.
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I have a wife that follows this shit like a cougar stalking a wounded chicken. :lol
That's probably why I'm so ignorant and casual about it. I just don't read about it so the triggers and info simply isn't there for me to think about and worry about it all.
Well, you are indestructible so there is no need to worry about it for you.
If Zeus can't take you out, how is a virus? :biggrin:
:lol Thanks mate, that's a nice compliment. But hey, I did catch COVID.......it just wasn't bad at all, for me.
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I have a wife that follows this shit like a cougar stalking a wounded chicken. :lol
That's probably why I'm so ignorant and casual about it. I just don't read about it so the triggers and info simply isn't there for me to think about and worry about it all.
Well, you are indestructible so there is no need to worry about it for you.
If Zeus can't take you out, how is a virus? :biggrin:
:lol Thanks mate, that's a nice compliment. But hey, it did catch COVID.......it just wasn't bad at all, for me.
Exactly! :lol
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Oh..... :lol
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Wolfking doesn't catch COVID; COVID catches Wolfking.
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Lightning doesn't strike Wolfking, Wolfking strikes lightning!
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Nice on both! :lol
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:lol
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I've cross-pollinated this as well.
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Not today but 2 days ago. Coworker, who was already unreliable we hell, spent the entire morning before we left on our routes bitching about the company, and about Amazon... Complaining about the same shit we all there deal with, as well as unfairly shit talking out dispatch team...
And then apparently he loaded his van, got to his first stop, and then quit. Causing our 2 extras on for the day to have to split his route, which meant those of us with really shitty routes (whom the extras usually help when needed) got boned. He then proceeded to post to Reddit about it. Like dude... Grow the fuck up. It's a job. It's not glamorous, but it could be a lot worse. If things were as shitty as he made it out to be, no one, including myself, would work for the company. Dude has already abandoned his route (basically loading up, leaving, and then coming up with a reason why he has to call off and go back home) several times in the last month or so... So it's not surprising. But dude also has 2 kids at home, one of them a newborn... And you're just going to up and quit a job that will basically guarantee you hours and OT if you want it?
What makes it worse is the fact that with one of our guys off on military related leave, and another injured, we've gone from just barely fully staffed (I've been working 50+ hour weeks to help cover shit... 5 x 10+ shifts), to understaffed. I'm picking up a 6th shift this week to help cover, but I also have a serious of days spread out between 3 work weeks that I need off, and even though the owner told me yesterday morning that he'll do his best to make sure I have them, I have a feeling it won't happen. Especially since we're also losing 2 of our most senior dispatchers within the next month.
I hate people.
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While cleaning my retro gaming man cave I "dropped" my 27" CRT a few inches and it made a weird "wind-chimey-bell" sound and now it's got rainbow colors on the top left and bottom right corners.
Nothing is fuzzy or distorted so it still works and plays fine, it's just the colors in these two spots.
Dammit.
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Dog people..... FUCK YOU!
Leave your fucking dog at home.
They don't belong in a grocery store in a carriage where people put their food.
A service dog should have an orange vest with a registered service license number on it. Since when is it ok to bring your fucking dogs everywhere?
We were out to eat tonight, and granted it was outdoor dining (I'm in Texas) but some dude walks right by us and his fucking dog rubs up against my elbow.
You fucking fuck.
Dogs are not children you fucking pussies. Leave them the fuck at home.
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Dog people..... FUCK YOU!
Leave your fucking dog at home.
They don't belong in a grocery store in a carriage where people put their food.
A service dog should have an orange vest with a registered service license number on it. Since when is it ok to bring your fucking dogs everywhere?
We were out to eat tonight, and granted it was outdoor dining (I'm in Texas) but some dude walks right by us and his fucking dog rubs up against my elbow.
You fucking fuck.
Dogs are not children you fucking pussies. Leave them the fuck at home.
Can't argue with you on that. I'm not much of an animal person, I can barely take care of myself let alone put them on my health insurance like some do. Did the dog at least pick up your tab? :lol
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Talking about dogs, a few years ago I was standing at a street corner waiting for my SO. As she is approaching I noticed her point at my feet with a shocked face, I looked down and a tiny little freaking dog was peeing on my shoes!
Anyways I second the keep your dogs at home. Specially if you are going to a restaurant.
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
I gather kids aren’t in the cards with you and Mrs Reaper anytime soon? :lol
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Dog people..... FUCK YOU!
Leave your fucking dog at home.
They don't belong in a grocery store in a carriage where people put their food.
A service dog should have an orange vest with a registered service license number on it. Since when is it ok to bring your fucking dogs everywhere?
We were out to eat tonight, and granted it was outdoor dining (I'm in Texas) but some dude walks right by us and his fucking dog rubs up against my elbow.
You fucking fuck.
Dogs are not children you fucking pussies. Leave them the fuck at home.
I was at the hardware store the other day, and saw 3 different people, 2 were couples and one lady on her own with fucking dogs sitting in the trolley, all with a little bed and a pillow and shit. 3 different combos of dogs and people in the one visit, no kidding, I couldn't fucking believe it. I was there for like 20 minutes.
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
This too. Crying fucking kids and the parents not doing anything. Shut your fucking punk ass kid up for fucks sake.
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I get that some "need" emotional support animals, but it feels like it is out of control where people take their dogs everywhere now.
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
I gather kids aren’t in the cards with you and Mrs Reaper anytime soon? :lol
No :lol. I've never had the desire or drive to have kids, actually ruined a previous relationship because my gf at the time wanted kids, 3, and I wanted zero.
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
This too. Crying fucking kids and the parents not doing anything. Shut your fucking punk ass kid up for fucks sake.
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
I gather kids aren’t in the cards with you and Mrs Reaper anytime soon? :lol
No :lol. I've never had the desire or drive to have kids, actually ruined a previous relationship because my gf at the time wanted kids, 3, and I wanted zero.
That would be a tough situation. I haven't had that issue thankfully and due to recent events, my view on not having children won't change anytime soon.
Kind of funny that she knew specifically how many she wanted. That may be normal but I find that amusing.
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A crying kid in public is tough for a parent. They know it's a hassle for everyone around them. A lot of times, you just need to take the kid outside to calm him down.
While I do think that parents with crying children deserve a bit of patience from those around them, it's an extremely fine line between that, and pissing everyone off.
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A crying kid in public is tough for a parent. They know it's a hassle for everyone around them. A lot of times, you just need to take the kid outside to calm him down.
While I do think that parents with crying children deserve a bit of patience from those around them, it's an extremely fine line between that, and pissing everyone off.
I do think that all the time, I know sometimes it would be impossible to deal with as a parent, I'm just being a prick. Sometimes though, for some questionable looking parents it seems they don't care and don't have any consideration for how it pisses other people off and just let the kid carry on.
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A crying kid in public is tough for a parent. They know it's a hassle for everyone around them. A lot of times, you just need to take the kid outside to calm him down.
While I do think that parents with crying children deserve a bit of patience from those around them, it's an extremely fine line between that, and pissing everyone off.
I do think that all the time, I know sometimes it would be impossible to deal with as a parent, I'm just being a prick. Sometimes though, for some questionable looking parents it seems they don't care and don't have any consideration for how it pisses other people off and just let the kid carry on.
Yeah, that happens for sure.
And no worries being a prick. I can relate. :lol
I've accumulated a list of gripes on this vacation. My family has been rolling their eyes all week.
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Talking about dogs, a few years ago I was standing at a street corner waiting for my SO. As she is approaching I noticed her point at my feet with a shocked face, I looked down and a tiny little freaking dog was peeing on my shoes!
Did you at least punt the dog across the street? :lol
Actually it's not really the dogs fault, it's the dogs owners fault.....did you punt the dogs owner across the street? :corn
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A crying kid in public is tough for a parent. They know it's a hassle for everyone around them. A lot of times, you just need to take the kid outside to calm him down.
While I do think that parents with crying children deserve a bit of patience from those around them, it's an extremely fine line between that, and pissing everyone off.
I do think that all the time, I know sometimes it would be impossible to deal with as a parent, I'm just being a prick. Sometimes though, for some questionable looking parents it seems they don't care and don't have any consideration for how it pisses other people off and just let the kid carry on.
Yeah, that happens for sure.
And no worries being a prick. I can relate. :lol
I've accumulated a list of gripes on this vacation. My family has been rolling their eyes all week.
You should've vacationed in Florida, you could've shared your gripes over some drinks :lol
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A crying kid in public is tough for a parent. They know it's a hassle for everyone around them. A lot of times, you just need to take the kid outside to calm him down.
While I do think that parents with crying children deserve a bit of patience from those around them, it's an extremely fine line between that, and pissing everyone off.
I'm with you on all counts, but some parents don't do that. They tuck their heads down and seemingly ignore it. Look, I love a meal out with my fam as much - more than - the next guy, but if my kid is crying, that is MY problem not the public's problem. If my meal gets interrupted, well, so friggin' what. I can afford to miss a meal or two (pats belly).
I think that's really my issue with most of these topics. Most of them are UNDERSTANDABLE, but they are still a ME problem, not a PUBLIC problem. We've seemingly morphed into this state where the expectation is that all of us - as a group - HAVE to bear the individual burden. And I'm saying, NO.
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Unrealistic expectations and deadlines set by leadership at work after being advised by all the SMEs it was too aggressive of a timeline, and then being told "clear your Memorial Day weekend plans including Memorial Day".
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On dogs:
We have an empty lot across the road from us. A woman from down the street appears to walk her dog down there in order to let it take a crap and then doesn't clean up after it. I haven't actually seen the dog taking a dump since it's long grass, but she lets it off the leash into the property. It's not my land (though I kind of want to buy it if its ever for sale), but I really want to say something to her next time I see it. I don't want the whole lot to reek of dog crap.
My general observation about dog owners is that they're terrible rule followers. Dogs must be on leash: "my dog is trained and can stay next to me". No dogs allowed on beach: "there aren't any kids swimming right now, I can let me dog play in the water". And so on.
My biggest beef was when my kids were little and scared of dogs. A big dog off leash will come up to us and my kids will try to hide behind me. I get a defensive posture ready to protect them from the unknown dog. Annoyed dog owner: "My dog is so friendly and loves kids" Well... I don't freaking know your dog and they've ever met my kids. Forgive me for preparing for a less than perfect introduction when we didn't ask for it..
On kids:
Kinds having a tantrum is difficult as a parent. Thankfully we haven't had too many full blown tantrums on public over the years. It is absolutely imperative as a parent to never give in to a tantrum. Your child absolutely cannot win in that situation or you're reinforcing awful behavior. Sometimes that means flat out ignoring them. Now, in a restaurant or something where people are paying money for a nice experience, I would carry my child outside until they calm down. In the aisle of the grocery store, I'm probably just leaving them there. Again, I've never had a complete meltdown in public, but there have certainly been some mini tantrums. If my child wants to whine and roll around on the floor while I patiently wait, I'll let that happen.
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You wont smell anything from a dog shitting in that overgrown lot. At the end of the week if you put all that dog's shit in a bucket, and then bucketed all the shit from the squirrels, rabbits, mice, birds, coyotes, foxes, opossums, feral cats, etc that also use that lot... the quantity of dog shit would pale in comparison.
Not saying she's right to let her dog do that, but you won't have to worry about the smell.
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You wont smell anything from a dog shitting in that overgrown lot. At the end of the week if you put all that dog's shit in a bucket, and then bucketed all the shit from the squirrels, rabbits, mice, birds, coyotes, foxes, opossums, feral cats, etc that also use that lot... the quantity of dog shit would pale in comparison.
Not saying she's right to let her dog do that, but you won't have to worry about the smell.
That's probably true.
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I've just got to chime in on the tantrum issue. Like with many parents, out of control behavior/crying/tantrums was a huge challenge for me. I was never allowed to behave that way as a child and would've likely been spanked/smacked across the face as a result. And because of that form of discipline (the word 'discipline' actually means 'to teach' BTW) I was never taught how to manage my big emotions....something I still struggle with as adult. Something I'd wager more than just a few of us here have difficulty with after reading the parenting/advice thread. And to be clear, I don't blame my parents. They learned it from their parents and back and back and back. Blame is a dead end street when it comes to parenting.
So as parents we spend a lot of time teaching our children basic skills - crawling, walking, eating with utensils, using the toilet, using words, sleeping in a bed. And yet the thought of taking time to teach children how to manage their big emotions (remember their brains are lacking the prefrontal cortex where higher functioning, impulse control, the notion of consequences for actions resides) by forcing them to do it on their own. Put the kid in time out. Ignore them when they act out. Shun them when they act up. In some cases dole out corporal punishment. It doesn't make sense to me that we expect toddlers to have their emotional all figured out and how to handle them when they crop up - which is like every 2 seconds, right? It takes a lot of time and effort and parents are fucking tired. I get it, I've been there. But I postulate that it is every bit as important to teach your toddler how to handle their big emotions as it is to teach them how to use the toilet (another thing that takes a lot of time and effort) and is worth every single second of time you put into it.
Now I'm expecting people will think I believe we should just let tantruming children run amok in restaurants and not step in. This is not at all what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting that removing the child from the public place to preserve peace for others is just the first step. The second step is helping the child calm down and letting the child know that you understand that big emotion they are experiencing and that you are there to help them figure out a better way to manage it than screaming like a banshee in a restaurant. And being prepared to do this about a hundred times. You have to be willing to "be with" your child in their emotions. You meet them where they are at and help them until they can manage on their own. In this process they learn they can trust you to help them cope with problems down the line and they won't be shunned away. It gives you the opportunity to teach them that the world won't stop every time they have a big emotion but you as their parent will be there with them when they feel out of control.
I was talking to one of my kids the other day about how it is important to look at parenting with a long-term lens. The goal is to form functioning adults in a world full of landmines. We are here to set our children up for success and part of that is to teach them the skills they need to navigate their emotions - and to ask for help when they struggle with this. So while it is easier to send a kid to their room for a time out in the moment, if the long term goal is to teach that kid how to behave better, they aren't going to learn that alone up in their room. And just maybe alone up in their room, they are going to turn to an outside source to learn from, like social media.
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Kinds having a tantrum is difficult as a parent. Thankfully we haven't had too many full blown tantrums on public over the years. It is absolutely imperative as a parent to never give in to a tantrum. Your child absolutely cannot win in that situation or you're reinforcing awful behavior. Sometimes that means flat out ignoring them. Now, in a restaurant or something where people are paying money for a nice experience, I would carry my child outside until they calm down. In the aisle of the grocery store, I'm probably just leaving them there. Again, I've never had a complete meltdown in public, but there have certainly been some mini tantrums. If my child wants to whine and roll around on the floor while I patiently wait, I'll let that happen.
Reminds me of this video - boss level parenting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2SDsrd1lvo)
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Great post, Harmony
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I've just got to chime in on the tantrum issue. Like with many parents, out of control behavior/crying/tantrums was a huge challenge for me. I was never allowed to behave that way as a child and would've likely been spanked/smacked across the face as a result. And because of that form of discipline (the word 'discipline' actually means 'to teach' BTW) I was never taught how to manage my big emotions....something I still struggle with as adult. Something I'd wager more than just a few of us here have difficulty with after reading the parenting/advice thread. And to be clear, I don't blame my parents. They learned it from their parents and back and back and back. Blame is a dead end street when it comes to parenting.
So as parents we spend a lot of time teaching our children basic skills - crawling, walking, eating with utensils, using the toilet, using words, sleeping in a bed. And yet the thought of taking time to teach children how to manage their big emotions (remember their brains are lacking the prefrontal cortex where higher functioning, impulse control, the notion of consequences for actions resides) by forcing them to do it on their own. Put the kid in time out. Ignore them when they act out. Shun them when they act up. In some cases dole out corporal punishment. It doesn't make sense to me that we expect toddlers to have their emotional all figured out and how to handle them when they crop up - which is like every 2 seconds, right? It takes a lot of time and effort and parents are fucking tired. I get it, I've been there. But I postulate that it is every bit as important to teach your toddler how to handle their big emotions as it is to teach them how to use the toilet (another thing that takes a lot of time and effort) and is worth every single second of time you put into it.
Now I'm expecting people will think I believe we should just let tantruming children run amok in restaurants and not step in. This is not at all what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting that removing the child from the public place to preserve peace for others is just the first step. The second step is helping the child calm down and letting the child know that you understand that big emotion they are experiencing and that you are there to help them figure out a better way to manage it than screaming like a banshee in a restaurant. And being prepared to do this about a hundred times. You have to be willing to "be with" your child in their emotions. You meet them where they are at and help them until they can manage on their own. In this process they learn they can trust you to help them cope with problems down the line and they won't be shunned away. It gives you the opportunity to teach them that the world won't stop every time they have a big emotion but you as their parent will be there with them when they feel out of control.
I was talking to one of my kids the other day about how it is important to look at parenting with a long-term lens. The goal is to form functioning adults in a world full of landmines. We are here to set our children up for success and part of that is to teach them the skills they need to navigate their emotions - and to ask for help when they struggle with this. So while it is easier to send a kid to their room for a time out in the moment, if the long term goal is to teach that kid how to behave better, they aren't going to learn that alone up in their room. And just maybe alone up in their room, they are going to turn to an outside source to learn from, like social media.
This is gold. That prefrontal cortex you mentioned doesn't fully develop until about the age of 25; well past the date that we as parents traditionally have kept "input". I'm far from perfect, but I've tried, through divorces, remarriages, moving, etc. to not look at each moment as a moment, but as a part of a bigger arc. Not easy, not always possible, but it's a goal.
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Shitty ass drivers. My route was decent yesterday except for the horrible drivers I dealt with all day.
One example: I'm in a residential neighborhood. Looking for a street (well it was actually a narrow alley). I'm going slow. No cars around minus one a block or so back. I find it. Right turn. Blinker is on. I cut it wide from the middle of the street because tight squeeze and large van. This bitch in a Mercedes SUV decides to pass me. On the right. AS I'M TURNING. I wound up slamming on the brake and we missed each other by a few inches. But... Really? Why? Literally no one else around us. Plenty of room to go around me on my left side. Or.. ya know... Just wait 3 seconds. I really wish I had hit her. The vans have cameras, facing in and out. I would have been 100 percent in the right.
I also can't even count the number of times I was cut off by people yesterday. I really think there should be some form of testing and licensing needed to be allowed to drive a car...
I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
My (tiny 3lb dog) is way more well behaved in public places than kids. She chills in her backpack and most of the time you wouldn't even know she was there.
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Yeah, I can definitely have a more intelligent conversation with a dog.
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
I would flip this and say that if you can handle kids out in public then you should be the one that gets asked to stay at home
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The tendency to shove people out of the hospital as soon as possible and do no followup after a procedure pissed me off on Tuesday and then again today.
My husband decided to have his (non-dangerous, just annoying) umbilical hernia operated on Tuesday and just about as soon as he could physically stand, they sent him home. Felt extremely sick and tired up to the evening and I'm guessing sleep apnea kicked in and he stopped breathing while napping and woke up hyperventilating with blue lips, then had a panic attack and we ended up in the ER. Love how my training from my family's various hospital adventures over the past 12 years kicked in and I packed a bag and put on his shoes and jacket using just one hand while on the line with them, silver linings :lol Everything was fine, it was just the shock from the surgery and tiredness and getting off meds. If he had been in the hospital for literally three more hours, they would have caught it.
So now his recovery started off on the wrong foot and since they're not doing any controls or checkups because nothing went wrong during the surgery itself, we have to go to the emergency doctor every time something's feeling kinda off just in case, which happened again today. I understand it's not a great use of hospital resources to let otherwise healthy young men take up beds for longer than they were designed to and have checkups with the surgeon who did his surgery, but now we've taken up the ambulance line twice for half an hour and ten minutes respectively, the ambulance car once, the emergency doctor's time once and now his doctor has to go over everything that happened and maybe order some more detailed tests that they didn't do in the ER.
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The tendency to shove people out of the hospital as soon as possible and do no followup after a procedure pissed me off on Tuesday and then again today.
My husband decided to have his (non-dangerous, just annoying) umbilical hernia operated on Tuesday and just about as soon as he could physically stand, they sent him home. Felt extremely sick and tired up to the evening and I'm guessing sleep apnea kicked in and he stopped breathing while napping and woke up hyperventilating with blue lips, then had a panic attack and we ended up in the ER. Love how my training from my family's various hospital adventures over the past 12 years kicked in and I packed a bag and put on his shoes and jacket using just one hand while on the line with them, silver linings :lol Everything was fine, it was just the shock from the surgery and tiredness and getting off meds. If he had been in the hospital for literally three more hours, they would have caught it.
So now his recovery started off on the wrong foot and since they're not doing any controls or checkups because nothing went wrong during the surgery itself, we have to go to the emergency doctor every time something's feeling kinda off just in case, which happened again today. I understand it's not a great use of hospital resources to let otherwise healthy young men take up beds for longer than they were designed to and have checkups with the surgeon who did his surgery, but now we've taken up the ambulance line twice for half an hour and ten minutes respectively, the ambulance car once, the emergency doctor's time once and now his doctor has to go over everything that happened and maybe order some more detailed tests that they didn't do in the ER.
That’s awful to hear and completely unacceptable! The health care system is struggling. I’m so sorry you and your husband are going through this. My thoughts and prayers are with you both.
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Not today but yesterday.
My route I was put on at work. It felt like someone took a list of zones and just threw darts at it to peice together my route. All over the place on a day and the largest I've had in weeks... On a day wehre it was hitting 100°. Not fun.
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The tendency to shove people out of the hospital as soon as possible and do no followup after a procedure pissed me off on Tuesday and then again today.
My husband decided to have his (non-dangerous, just annoying) umbilical hernia operated on Tuesday and just about as soon as he could physically stand, they sent him home. Felt extremely sick and tired up to the evening and I'm guessing sleep apnea kicked in and he stopped breathing while napping and woke up hyperventilating with blue lips, then had a panic attack and we ended up in the ER. Love how my training from my family's various hospital adventures over the past 12 years kicked in and I packed a bag and put on his shoes and jacket using just one hand while on the line with them, silver linings :lol Everything was fine, it was just the shock from the surgery and tiredness and getting off meds. If he had been in the hospital for literally three more hours, they would have caught it.
So now his recovery started off on the wrong foot and since they're not doing any controls or checkups because nothing went wrong during the surgery itself, we have to go to the emergency doctor every time something's feeling kinda off just in case, which happened again today. I understand it's not a great use of hospital resources to let otherwise healthy young men take up beds for longer than they were designed to and have checkups with the surgeon who did his surgery, but now we've taken up the ambulance line twice for half an hour and ten minutes respectively, the ambulance car once, the emergency doctor's time once and now his doctor has to go over everything that happened and maybe order some more detailed tests that they didn't do in the ER.
Such a huge pet peeve of mine. Insurance cost over the payers health. We pay all this money to get less care that we should get.
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ER's have become a joke to me. My biggest pet peeve in this arena is when we call our primary doctors office about an issue and their response is go to the ER. We go to the ER and then they literally do absolutely nothing beside monitor you. Maybe you'll get some pain relief or an IV. They will run no tests, discharge you once you are somewhat comfortable and tell you to.............wait for it.........................follow up with your doctor.
In my case, my co-pay to see my doctor is $10. The co-pay for the ER is $250.
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That’s awful to hear and completely unacceptable! The health care system is struggling. I’m so sorry you and your husband are going through this. My thoughts and prayers are with you both.
Thanks pal. This is the Norwegian health care system, so we pay more in taxes up front and less after we use the services, but it seems health care systems everywhere have some annoying traits no matter how much they're struggling or not.
ER's have become a joke to me. My biggest pet peeve in this arena is when we call our primary doctors office about an issue and their response is go to the ER. We go to the ER and then they literally do absolutely nothing beside monitor you. Maybe you'll get some pain relief or an IV. They will run no tests, discharge you once you are somewhat comfortable and tell you to.............wait for it.........................follow up with your doctor.
In my case, my co-pay to see my doctor is $10. The co-pay for the ER is $250.
I hear you and this sounds so so annoying. I understand that, from their perspective, everything that's literally not a life or death situation can be dealt with at home, but they really forget that to an average person, everything that's slightly out of normal is pretty scary to deal with and if you have to take 15 more minutes to explain why you're just monitoring them and why no tests are required sometimes, you should do that. If there's not enough staff, that is a serious problem, this isn't the grocery store and you shouldn't have the same staffing practices as a grocery store. I'm not squeamish and I've dealt with a lot - I've found my mom passed out on the floor several times when I was 19 and had to call the ER, to start with - but I did get a little spooked when it seemed like I actually had to convince them to send the ambulance for a guy who's passed out in his sleep going off anesthesia. It was a calm Tuesday night, I don't know if we could have scheduled a health crisis for a more convenient time :lol
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The tendency to shove people out of the hospital as soon as possible and do no followup after a procedure pissed me off on Tuesday and then again today.
My husband decided to have his (non-dangerous, just annoying) umbilical hernia operated on Tuesday and just about as soon as he could physically stand, they sent him home. Felt extremely sick and tired up to the evening and I'm guessing sleep apnea kicked in and he stopped breathing while napping and woke up hyperventilating with blue lips, then had a panic attack and we ended up in the ER. Love how my training from my family's various hospital adventures over the past 12 years kicked in and I packed a bag and put on his shoes and jacket using just one hand while on the line with them, silver linings :lol Everything was fine, it was just the shock from the surgery and tiredness and getting off meds. If he had been in the hospital for literally three more hours, they would have caught it.
So now his recovery started off on the wrong foot and since they're not doing any controls or checkups because nothing went wrong during the surgery itself, we have to go to the emergency doctor every time something's feeling kinda off just in case, which happened again today. I understand it's not a great use of hospital resources to let otherwise healthy young men take up beds for longer than they were designed to and have checkups with the surgeon who did his surgery, but now we've taken up the ambulance line twice for half an hour and ten minutes respectively, the ambulance car once, the emergency doctor's time once and now his doctor has to go over everything that happened and maybe order some more detailed tests that they didn't do in the ER.
I suppose one thing to be grateful for is a hospital system where you only experience a 30 and 10 minute wait of any kind.
But otherwise, yeah... the practice of medicine has devolved - for a variety of reasons, and it's such a shame as it hurts all of us - and it's happening everywhere
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I'd rather deal with a dog then a whiny ass kid. Leave both at home and don't bring them to restaurants.
I would flip this and say that if you can handle kids out in public then you should be the one that gets asked to stay at home
I can handle kids in public, what I don't like is parents who choose to do nothing about their kids when they are throwing a tantrum. I get thinga happen but if you're gonna just sit there and eat your bread sticks while your child acts like an asshole then I have a problem with that.
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I can handle kids in public, what I don't like is parents who choose to do nothing about their kids when they are throwing a tantrum. I get thinga happen but if you're gonna just sit there and eat your bread sticks while your child acts like an asshole then I have a problem with that.
I don't know if you have kids or don't - but one thing I learned after my kids were born is that non-parents don't understand the experiences of parents and shouldn't always make assumptions that they're not doing their job right. .
But having been there, sometimes there isn't much you can do. I've been in both positions - I've walked through shopping malls with my daughter over my shoulder as she screamed and I headed back towards where we parked doing my best to remove her from the situation and having to endure the embarrassment of every single person in that mall staring at me. I've taken my tired, tantrum-throwing kid out of the restaurant to let them cool down for 20 minutes, at the expense of the dinner that *I* paid for getting cold....all so some other families can enjoy *their* dinners in peace.
Other times, you just have to ride it out. Every situation is different, and sometimes the usual distractions or a walk outside won't get the kids to calm down. But to expect that us parents keep our kids at home at times, that's not realistic. Kids are kids and sometimes their behavior isn't the greatest, but it's also how they learn, by being in public, making mistakes and being corrected.
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No I don't have kids. I think it's a case by case bases; if it's burger king and kids are throwing a fit I don't really care but if it a nicer place then yes I will be pissed off. I'm not saying kids should stay at home but if you have a problematic children then maybe get a sitter. I too don't want my dinner ruined because your kids are having an issue. (I'm not directing any of this at you by the way, just expressing my beliefs).
Kids will be kids and I never blame them, I judge the parents. A little off topic but I've noticed, at least in my city, that there are a lot of young parents who have children but don't want to give up their lifestyle because of kids. I've seen countless mom's and dad's at breweries double fisiting beers while having their kid in a babybjorn.
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I can handle kids in public, what I don't like is parents who choose to do nothing about their kids when they are throwing a tantrum. I get thinga happen but if you're gonna just sit there and eat your bread sticks while your child acts like an asshole then I have a problem with that.
I don't know if you have kids or don't - but one thing I learned after my kids were born is that non-parents don't understand the experiences of parents and shouldn't always make assumptions that they're not doing their job right. .
But having been there, sometimes there isn't much you can do. I've been in both positions - I've walked through shopping malls with my daughter over my shoulder as she screamed and I headed back towards where we parked doing my best to remove her from the situation and having to endure the embarrassment of every single person in that mall staring at me. I've taken my tired, tantrum-throwing kid out of the restaurant to let them cool down for 20 minutes, at the expense of the dinner that *I* paid for getting cold....all so some other families can enjoy *their* dinners in peace.
Other times, you just have to ride it out. Every situation is different, and sometimes the usual distractions or a walk outside won't get the kids to calm down. But to expect that us parents keep our kids at home at times, that's not realistic. Kids are kids and sometimes their behavior isn't the greatest, but it's also how they learn, by being in public, making mistakes and being corrected.
As a parent to one, step parent to three and grandfather to two, I see both sides, and both sides have merit. I've been there too (I remember one time my daughter didn't want to get in the carseat, and basically "planked" herself and screamed. I was looking around the parking lot like an axe murderer imagining everyone was watching and judging me.
But there are nuances to all of this; yes, this is how they learn, but do they need to learn in that particular seat, in that particular restaurant? I don't know the answer to that. Yes, I paid for that meal, but do I have a RIGHT to it in that moment? I don't know the answer to that. And that works for both me as the parent, and me as the un-kidded fellow patron. I think it's all how you handle it. Yeah, I DO judge the parent that just sits there and seemingly ignores it going on. If there is nothing to be done to stop the screaming, then I DO feel it's my obligation to endure the screaming in the parking lot, as opposed to at the table in Outback.
Don't take this as disagreeing, since I don't: it takes a village, and it takes compassion and awareness and understanding by all involved, including the parents and the other patrons. All I'm saying is "tie goes the runner", and in this case, the patrons are the runner.
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I think it's fair to be annoyed af at the kid screaming and parent doing nothing but also accepting that "kids will be kids". It's just a shitty situation all around when a kid is having a moment in public. I'd imagine we were all that kid once before and many here have also been that parent. It sucks, it's annoying, and sometimes I do wish the parents would do more, but I accept, sometimes, it's just part of life. I get more annoyed when, such as at the airport last week, when I child is running around and getting in everyone's way with the parent not doing anything. I think such a situation for one, isn't safe, and two, can actually be resolved by a parent who cares to resolve it.
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I think it's fair to be annoyed af at the kid screaming and parent doing nothing but also accepting that "kids will be kids". It's just a shitty situation all around when a kid is having a moment in public. I'd imagine we were all that kid once before and many here have also been that parent. It sucks, it's annoying, and sometimes I do wish the parents would do more, but I accept, sometimes, it's just part of life. I get more annoyed when, such as at the airport last week, when I child is running around and getting in everyone's way with the parent not doing anything. I think such a situation for one, isn't safe, and two, can actually be resolved by a parent who cares to resolve it.
That's a fair point; there's a difference between that uncontrollable tantrum and simple misbehavior. Speaking of airports, what bugs me is the waiting for baggage and watching the kids sitting and crawling and playing on the baggage carousel. The signs are there for a reason, and there' NO excuse whatsoever that that kid has to have his/her fingers in the baggage track. I almost - ALMOST! - wish some kid would lose a finger to teach these asshole parents a lesson. That's not about difficult circumstances, even after a long flight. That's about lazy parenting.
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I've taken my tired, tantrum-throwing kid out of the restaurant to let them cool down for 20 minutes, at the expense of the dinner that *I* paid for getting cold....all so some other families can enjoy *their* dinners in peace.
Once you become a parent, you can say goodbye to hot meals.
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I've taken my tired, tantrum-throwing kid out of the restaurant to let them cool down for 20 minutes, at the expense of the dinner that *I* paid for getting cold....all so some other families can enjoy *their* dinners in peace.
Once you become a patent, you can say goodbye to hot meals.
My kid was largely a good kid, but even so I wish I had back all the extra tips I gave for the waiter/waitresses boxing up an entire, untouched meal to go as we removed ourselves from the situation. ;) :) :)
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When my son was still a baby, we were at Kohl's and I was trying on some pants. I heard this baby crying super loud, and it just wouldn't stop, and as I'm trying on the pants, I said to myself, "wow, I feel sorry for that parent." I came out after trying them on, and couldn't find my wife or my son. Eventually found her in the entrance, holding our son, and I said, "man, did you hear that crying baby?" And she said, "yep, that was our son." :P
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Yes, I paid for that meal, but do I have a RIGHT to it in that moment? I don't know the answer to that.
Man alive... not everything about life or humanity need be boiled down to "rights".
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Yes, I paid for that meal, but do I have a RIGHT to it in that moment? I don't know the answer to that.
Man alive... not everything about life or humanity need be boiled down to "rights".
When there are disputes, yes. When you're talking entitlements, yes. It's really the only way we can fairly discern between two unrelated people. It's like asking "does every pitch HAVE to boil down to a ball and a strike in baseball"? Well, yeah. That's the whole point, innit?
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Yes, I paid for that meal, but do I have a RIGHT to it in that moment? I don't know the answer to that.
Man alive... not everything about life or humanity need be boiled down to "rights".
When there are disputes, yes. When you're talking entitlements, yes. It's really the only way we can fairly discern between two unrelated people. It's like asking "does every pitch HAVE to boil down to a ball and a strike in baseball"? Well, yeah. That's the whole point, innit?
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I see neither a dispute or an entitlement in this line of discussion as it relates to a peaceful meal in a restaurant.
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Yes, I paid for that meal, but do I have a RIGHT to it in that moment? I don't know the answer to that.
Man alive... not everything about life or humanity need be boiled down to "rights".
When there are disputes, yes. When you're talking entitlements, yes. It's really the only way we can fairly discern between two unrelated people. It's like asking "does every pitch HAVE to boil down to a ball and a strike in baseball"? Well, yeah. That's the whole point, innit?
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I see neither a dispute or an entitlement in this line of discussion as it relates to a peaceful meal in a restaurant.
The dispute is a person having a peaceful meal in a restaurant being disturbed by a noisy, uncontrollable child.
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Having to go to a work 'venues workshop event' tonight from 4pm-9pm, whatever the fuck that is. Not impressed.
Plus, it's run by people not in my field and only been with the organisation not very long at all. The main guy running it too, I had a meeting with him and a key staff member yesterday about him having an issue with her doing too many hours time in lieu and the company not happy. I challenged the fuck out of this guy for an hour and a half, it was great and he had no answers to some of my points.
Being at a organisation for 15 years and then getting a big boss come in with zero aquatic experience and trying to tell me how things are going to run........
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.....I might have some fun with this with the mood I'm in, what's to lose? It's funny when you have managers come in, don't ask questions and try and change things just to make them tick their boxes and look good and meet their KPI's. Don't swing your cock around here mate. I swear some of these fuckers live in future world when they haven't a clue of the industry.
Anyway, endless mini rant over.
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Having to go to a work 'venues workshop event' tonight from 4pm-9pm, whatever the fuck that is. Not impressed.
Plus, it's run by people not in my field and only been with the organisation not very long at all. The main guy running it too, I had a meeting with him and a key staff member yesterday about him having an issue with her doing too many hours time in lieu and the company not happy. I challenged the fuck out of this guy for an hour and a half, it was great and he had no answers to some of my points.
Being at a organisation for 15 years and then getting a big boss come in with zero aquatic experience and trying to tell me how things are going to run........
(https://media.tenor.com/images/d878619f09b6a0b8728555cb2ea37bd0/tenor.gif)
.....I might have some fun with this with the mood I'm in, what's to lose? It's funny when you have managers come in, don't ask questions and try and change things just to make them tick their boxes and look good and meet their KPI's. Don't swing your cock around here mate. I swear some of these fuckers live in future world when they haven't a clue of the industry.
Anyway, endless mini rant over.
That sucks and makes zero sense to piss off experienced employees like yourself and what does the company actually gain? Sorry man! :censored
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Thanks mate. I'm treating it as all fun now, just gotta laugh sometimes and accept stupidity.
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I love sending emails to people that contain the exact information they need to complete a form I need back from them to complete their purchase, and they send the form with absolutely NONE OF THAT INFORMATION FILLED IN ON SAID FORM!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored
I'm trying to make both of our lives easier here, and you completely fail to understand the assignment. :tdwn
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I love sending emails to people that contain the exact information they need to complete a form I need back from them to complete their purchase, and they send the form with absolutely NONE OF THAT INFORMATION FILLED IN ON SAID FORM!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored :censored
I'm trying to make both of our lives easier here, and you completely fail to understand the assignment. :tdwn
I didn't do that. Wait, did I? :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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If you did that, I wouldn't be mad, I would be seriously concerned for your well being. ;)
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Having to go to a work 'venues workshop event' tonight from 4pm-9pm, whatever the fuck that is. Not impressed.
Plus, it's run by people not in my field and only been with the organisation not very long at all. The main guy running it too, I had a meeting with him and a key staff member yesterday about him having an issue with her doing too many hours time in lieu and the company not happy. I challenged the fuck out of this guy for an hour and a half, it was great and he had no answers to some of my points.
Being at a organisation for 15 years and then getting a big boss come in with zero aquatic experience and trying to tell me how things are going to run........
(https://media.tenor.com/images/d878619f09b6a0b8728555cb2ea37bd0/tenor.gif)
.....I might have some fun with this with the mood I'm in, what's to lose? It's funny when you have managers come in, don't ask questions and try and change things just to make them tick their boxes and look good and meet their KPI's. Don't swing your cock around here mate. I swear some of these fuckers live in future world when they haven't a clue of the industry.
Anyway, endless mini rant over.
I forgot I made this post, but after all this over the last month, it has ended up with me apparently having to go to People and Culture (HR) because I challenged this guy and told him things he wants to implement might not work. He's threatening me with disciplinary action. :lol
At this event I just brought up a few things they were changing (rostering systems, other protocols) that I didn't know about and my staff were like "WTF". I asked for them in an open forum where they asked for questions cause I wasn't told myself beforehand, and got howled down.
Long story but afterwards to sum it up he basically tells me "he's the boss now, and my behavior is breaking the company's code of conduct." I was simply asking a few questions intently and trying to get my point across because you know, I may have an idea on how things run in my area. Told him in the one on one meeting where he's trying to scare me afterwards that, his lack of empathy and attitude towards me and lack of due diligence for what I've been through with my accident has been non existent and atrocious and I actually take offence. He returned serve with "what you've been through is no excuse for bad behavior." Roger that, I have never used it once as an excuse and not missed a day of work since, I just wanted him to know that he has never shown any sympathy towards me afterwards and that affects our working relationship moving forward. I have no respect because he showed me none but he doesn't want a bar of that. Complete sociopath I think.
Going to sit back and let things fall in his face. Not helping you mate and I'll work to rule and let's see how good you go.
Now to be clear, I'm no saint, I know that I and bring things on myself, but instead and nutting things out like men, his superiority complex takes hold and needs to do things in pathetic way instead of us sitting down and talking it out. I tried to do that, but his mouth moves too much, complete twat. I may be outspoken but all my staff thought it was great I asked the questions for them. They all thought it was great I spoke up for them when needed and tried to put their concerns over the changes forward. I feel that's what leaders need to do for their people, so fuck him.
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Wow Kade, that's very interesting.
First, how did the investigation go for your WORKPLACE accident? Is it complete? Were you given a copy? Have there been any safety measures implemented as a result of your injury ON THE JOB? What is being done to protect others doing that job?
I know you're not the suing kind, but it's an industry here to sue companies for Workers Comp. You were damn near killed, and the people that treated you that said that would surely do the same in court.
The only person that gives a shit what you went through physically, AND mentally, is you. And us here at DTF of course. But your company certainly doesn't. And if this guy is the dick that you are presenting him to be, he won't hesitate to make an example out of you to remove you from what he wants to do. And HR may listen to you, but what's gonna happen is gonna happen. And if you get fired and then sue them, they'll frame it as sour grapes.
I'd speak to a lawyer ASAP. You have worked way to hard and sacrificed way too much to get fucked over. But I feel like you're about to get fucked over. Protect yourself.
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I'm kinda in line with Tim... smells like this douche-waffle is looking for a reason to string you up. You can do one of two things I suppose - prepare for the legal route as Tim says, or just go with the flow. Do the bare minimum to comply with your job requirements/description. Just go with the flow. I know it's hard, but there comes a time when you (royal) just gotta stop caring about something as much as you do - when it's clear that 'care' is not reciprocated in any manner.
Not your monkey; not your circus. Pretend like you're the water on a lazy river ride. Just go with the flow, and nothing can stop or change you.
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Wow Kade, that's very interesting.
First, how did the investigation go for your WORKPLACE accident? Is it complete? Were you given a copy? Have there been any safety measures implemented as a result of your injury ON THE JOB? What is being done to protect others doing that job?
I know you're not the suing kind, but it's an industry here to sue companies for Workers Comp. You were damn near killed, and the people that treated you that said that would surely do the same in court.
The only person that gives a shit what you went through physically, AND mentally, is you. And us here at DTF of course. But your company certainly doesn't. And if this guy is the dick that you are presenting him to be, he won't hesitate to make an example out of you to remove you from what he wants to do. And HR may listen to you, but what's gonna happen is gonna happen. And if you get fired and then sue them, they'll frame it as sour grapes.
I'd speak to a lawyer ASAP. You have worked way to hard and sacrificed way too much to get fucked over. But I feel like you're about to get fucked over. Protect yourself.
I'm kinda in line with Tim... smells like this douche-waffle is looking for a reason to string you up. You can do one of two things I suppose - prepare for the legal route as Tim says, or just go with the flow. Do the bare minimum to comply with your job requirements/description. Just go with the flow. I know it's hard, but there comes a time when you (royal) just gotta stop caring about something as much as you do - when it's clear that 'care' is not reciprocated in any manner.
Not your monkey; not your circus. Pretend like you're the water on a lazy river ride. Just go with the flow, and nothing can stop or change you.
Thank you to both of you. I didn't mean to rant like that and there is obviously A LOT more to the story. As I said, I'm no saint and I speak up, I'm not the kiss ass type of guy, and the organization hates that, but I don't lower myself to that level just to get ahead. He's threatened by people that know more than him too, that's obvious, so there's that.
Tim, you're right, no one gives a fuck, and that's fine, I don't care what they think, it's about me and them not caring doesn't make me lose any sleep. In answer to your question, the investigation is still ongoing, which still weighs heavily on me. The venue is still closed and they are trying to cover their asses but implementing training and shit like that, so they have taken it seriously but it's only to cover their ass, no one outside my inner circle has given two fucks, but I'm not that type of guy who wants that anyway. There's just been a lack of respect in that regards from him since day one, and morally I just think that's wrong and he's made it blatantly obvious. I'm used as an example across the organization now for Health and Safety too which is annoying, but something I can't control and leaning to deal with.
Do I feel like I'm getting fucked over? Maybe, but I don't think it's related to the accident, that's my issue, and as Tim said, no one gives two fucks. I'm not the suing kind but makes me wonder sometimes. I know you two are sitting there probably thinking that I certainly have run ins with a lot of managers and whatnot (lol) and that's kind of true, but I'm loyal to my team as you both know and they know that, and I'll stick up for what's right no matter what the cost. Could be my downfall but that thinking now is changing. I need to make it about me, not everyone else.
I don't think he really has grounds to fuck me over, it wouldn't be wise on his part because I really haven't done anything wrong, just took a stab at his ego, and I have contact with a high class lawyer if I need it. This guy has threatened disciplinary action and it's apparently going to HR but I'm still waiting for an official appointment and this happened three weeks ago and he was giving me the 'heads up', so not sure if he's just bluffing trying to scare me into bowing and kissing his ass. No matter what though, it's not gonna work, and I'm really not worried at all.
At the moment, I'm pretty much in line with Chad's thinking there. Chad, I know we've chatted a lot about work stuff and you've offered sound advice which I've always cherished and been so grateful for but I'm taking that approach. All of the last six months is something I think that has NEEDED to happen and I'm at that point where I am disconnecting the emotional part of me to my work. I think all of these little things are part of a forced change that will come in time. I've always thought I'd move on one day and I think this is perhaps the start of a natural evolution in what I need to make changes. I know change will come around and this is all part of it. Cop out? Probably but you both know I've felt kinda stuck and scared to walk away so I think it will come naturally at some point through all this kind of shit.
i'll go with the flow for now and just watch what I do and say, but he'll regret what he's doing and how he's acting, in one way or another. I'll admit when I'm out of line but when others don't, that's frustrating, and when people think they are royality and have no faults, that doesn't sit well with me, no matter what you're ranking is. So yes, a lot of my own issues and doing but yep, gonna sit back and work within my scope from now on.
Cheers to both of you, as always.
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I'm kinda in line with Tim... smells like this douche-waffle is looking for a reason to string you up. You can do one of two things I suppose - prepare for the legal route as Tim says, or just go with the flow. Do the bare minimum to comply with your job requirements/description. Just go with the flow. I know it's hard, but there comes a time when you (royal) just gotta stop caring about something as much as you do - when it's clear that 'care' is not reciprocated in any manner.
Not your monkey; not your circus. Pretend like you're the water on a lazy river ride. Just go with the flow, and nothing can stop or change you.
Having been in a very similar situation, I respectfully disagree. I mean, I completely agree about having to stop caring about a job. The company doesn't care about you and will keep right on rolling along long after they jettison you. Going with the flow is ultimately unsatisfying, though. Either you've already distinguished yourself in such a way that they're going to find a reason to get rid of you regardless, or the business side of things will deteriorate and you'll be the one to catch the flack. In Kade's case, if management is as inept as he's suggesting, business will suffer and it won't be the idiot boss that is blamed for it (initially, you can't hide forever). It it's reached a head, and his description sure suggests that it has, you either move on under the best circumstances, or you go scorched Earth. That was my choice.
Also, "going with the flow," or doing the bare minimum in this case, is unfair to the people you work with. Those sorts of people are insufferable.
Either way, CYA applies in full. The company is damn sure covering its own, you need to do the same.
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Either way, CYA applies in full. The company is damn sure covering its own, you need to do the same.
Exactly.
And Kade, it never hurts just to talk to somebody. I think this guy will move on you for the slightest reason.
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I'm kinda in line with Tim... smells like this douche-waffle is looking for a reason to string you up. You can do one of two things I suppose - prepare for the legal route as Tim says, or just go with the flow. Do the bare minimum to comply with your job requirements/description. Just go with the flow. I know it's hard, but there comes a time when you (royal) just gotta stop caring about something as much as you do - when it's clear that 'care' is not reciprocated in any manner.
Not your monkey; not your circus. Pretend like you're the water on a lazy river ride. Just go with the flow, and nothing can stop or change you.
Having been in a very similar situation, I respectfully disagree. I mean, I completely agree about having to stop caring about a job. The company doesn't care about you and will keep right on rolling along long after they jettison you. Going with the flow is ultimately unsatisfying, though. Either you've already distinguished yourself in such a way that they're going to find a reason to get rid of you regardless, or the business side of things will deteriorate and you'll be the one to catch the flack. In Kade's case, if management is as inept as he's suggesting, business will suffer and it won't be the idiot boss that is blamed for it (initially, you can't hide forever). It it's reached a head, and his description sure suggests that it has, you either move on under the best circumstances, or you go scorched Earth. That was my choice.
Also, "going with the flow," or doing the bare minimum in this case, is unfair to the people you work with. Those sorts of people are insufferable.
Either way, CYA applies in full. The company is damn sure covering its own, you need to do the same.
Wise words Barto, appreciatethe thoughts man. As I said, I know its a cop out but you're right, whatever I do, and if results suffer, I will be the one that he will blame anyway.
You're right, it's the people around me that will suffer, but it's come to a point where I'm tired of thinking of everyone else and need to think for me. That's where leaving is probably the best answer but I'm too much of a pussy.
Either way, CYA applies in full. The company is damn sure covering its own, you need to do the same.
Exactly.
And Kade, it never hurts just to talk to somebody. I think this guy will move on you for the slightest reason.
Its looking that way mate.
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The other thing is I have a lot of annual and long service up my sleeve if I need extended time out. I mean like.......48 weeks worth, not just a couple of months. Me going on extended leave would expose the company but would leave my colleagues in the shit.
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The other thing is I have a lot of annual and long service up my sleeve if I need extended time out. I mean like.......48 weeks worth, not just a couple of months. Me going on extended leave would expose the company but would leave my colleagues in the shit.
Based on what you went through, a doctor should easily be able to write your out.
Also...book a vacation. And GO!
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The other thing is I have a lot of annual and long service up my sleeve if I need extended time out. I mean like.......48 weeks worth, not just a couple of months. Me going on extended leave would expose the company but would leave my colleagues in the shit.
Based on what you went through, a doctor should easily be able to write your out.
Also...book a vacation. And GO!
I still have my workers comp letter, a doctor would easily write me out mate.
And yeah, might really have to come for a trip over soon haha.
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The other thing is I have a lot of annual and long service up my sleeve if I need extended time out. I mean like.......48 weeks worth, not just a couple of months. Me going on extended leave would expose the company but would leave my colleagues in the shit.
Do you mean like paid time off, accrued over years of employment? If so, I agree with Tim. Start using it. I don't know how things work down there, so maybe it's something different. I know that here an employee is entitled to accrued PTO, even if he's let go, but there are also ways the Aussie version of Bosk could find to keep you from getting it. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to give you what's yours if they get rid of you, and that's time/money you've earned.
If you're describing some sort of Aussie social security thing that you've paid into, that's a different story. Save that for when they fire you.
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The other thing is I have a lot of annual and long service up my sleeve if I need extended time out. I mean like.......48 weeks worth, not just a couple of months. Me going on extended leave would expose the company but would leave my colleagues in the shit.
Do you mean like paid time off, accrued over years of employment? If so, I agree with Tim. Start using it. I don't know how things work down there, so maybe it's something different. I know that here an employee is entitled to accrued PTO, even if he's let go, but there are also ways the Aussie version of Bosk could find to keep you from getting it. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to give you what's yours if they get rid of you, and that's time/money you've earned.
If you're describing some sort of Aussie social security thing that you've paid into, that's a different story. Save that for when they fire you.
Yeah mate, holiday paid leave that we accrue over years and also long service leave which you accrue and can take after 7 years of employment. I've been here since 2008.
Whatever happens, I'm owed that time, regardless so that's nice.
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But what if they fire you for "cause"? I don't think they'd want to pay you your 4 years worth of accrued time.
You need to talk to a lawyer.
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The other thing is I have a lot of annual and long service up my sleeve if I need extended time out. I mean like.......48 weeks worth, not just a couple of months. Me going on extended leave would expose the company but would leave my colleagues in the shit.
Do you mean like paid time off, accrued over years of employment? If so, I agree with Tim. Start using it. I don't know how things work down there, so maybe it's something different. I know that here an employee is entitled to accrued PTO, even if he's let go, but there are also ways the Aussie version of Bosk could find to keep you from getting it. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to give you what's yours if they get rid of you, and that's time/money you've earned.
If you're describing some sort of Aussie social security thing that you've paid into, that's a different story. Save that for when they fire you.
Yeah mate, holiday paid leave that we accrue over years and also long service leave which you accrue and can take after 7 years of employment. I've been here since 2008.
Whatever happens, I'm owed that time, regardless so that's nice.
Long service leave is a foreign concept here (and in most places, actually). Did some reading up on it and that's kind of a sweet deal. And it does seem you're entitled to it no matter what. Personally, that would seriously change my attitude towards my employment (and not to the benefit of my employer :xbones ).
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I'm on TAC's side here. My fear is that even if you just do the bare minimum, the problem is your boss is still going to implement something you don't think will work and you won't put the effort into supporting if you do the bare minimum. They could place the blame on you, not the new boss, as a scapegoat. Especially taking into consideration your near death experience there which makes me think the lawyer route makes sense. If you have all that PTO, definitely take some of it at least. You need the break and there seems to be plenty to still get a payout if you leave.
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But what if they fire you for "cause"? I don't think they'd want to pay you your 4 years worth of accrued time.
You need to talk to a lawyer.
What do you mean cause? Cause of the accident? They can't do that. I've already been told that.
The other thing is I have a lot of annual and long service up my sleeve if I need extended time out. I mean like.......48 weeks worth, not just a couple of months. Me going on extended leave would expose the company but would leave my colleagues in the shit.
Do you mean like paid time off, accrued over years of employment? If so, I agree with Tim. Start using it. I don't know how things work down there, so maybe it's something different. I know that here an employee is entitled to accrued PTO, even if he's let go, but there are also ways the Aussie version of Bosk could find to keep you from getting it. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to give you what's yours if they get rid of you, and that's time/money you've earned.
If you're describing some sort of Aussie social security thing that you've paid into, that's a different story. Save that for when they fire you.
Yeah mate, holiday paid leave that we accrue over years and also long service leave which you accrue and can take after 7 years of employment. I've been here since 2008.
Whatever happens, I'm owed that time, regardless so that's nice.
Long service leave is a foreign concept here (and in most places, actually). Did some reading up on it and that's kind of a sweet deal. And it does seem you're entitled to it no matter what. Personally, that would seriously change my attitude towards my employment (and not to the benefit of my employer :xbones ).
Yeah, its a nice safety net I have indeed mate, especially after a lot of years of hard work and service. I'm kind of just been banking it all as long as I can just for a situation exactly like this.
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I'm on TAC's side here. My fear is that even if you just do the bare minimum, the problem is your boss is still going to implement something you don't think will work and you won't put the effort into supporting if you do the bare minimum. They could place the blame on you, not the new boss, as a scapegoat. Especially taking into consideration your near death experience there which makes me think the lawyer route makes sense. If you have all that PTO, definitely take some of it at least. You need the break and there seems to be plenty to still get a payout if you leave.
Thanks Marc. That's definitely a concern. As I said I'd need to do a lot more for them to ping me and fire me and to be fair, I'm not the bludging type for the sake of it. My motivation can be down but I'd never intentionally fuck things up or miss things, that's not my nature.
He's definitely trying to bait me. Even another email today where I've answered a question but it wasn't good enough. Trying to get a rise out of me for sure and knows I'm a bit firey.
I might see if he follows through with the HR meeting to give me something officially. If that happens, game on.
I appreciate the support, this place is the best!
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I'm kinda in line with Tim... smells like this douche-waffle is looking for a reason to string you up. You can do one of two things I suppose - prepare for the legal route as Tim says, or just go with the flow. Do the bare minimum to comply with your job requirements/description. Just go with the flow. I know it's hard, but there comes a time when you (royal) just gotta stop caring about something as much as you do - when it's clear that 'care' is not reciprocated in any manner.
Not your monkey; not your circus. Pretend like you're the water on a lazy river ride. Just go with the flow, and nothing can stop or change you.
Having been in a very similar situation, I respectfully disagree. I mean, I completely agree about having to stop caring about a job. The company doesn't care about you and will keep right on rolling along long after they jettison you. Going with the flow is ultimately unsatisfying, though. Either you've already distinguished yourself in such a way that they're going to find a reason to get rid of you regardless, or the business side of things will deteriorate and you'll be the one to catch the flack. In Kade's case, if management is as inept as he's suggesting, business will suffer and it won't be the idiot boss that is blamed for it (initially, you can't hide forever). It it's reached a head, and his description sure suggests that it has, you either move on under the best circumstances, or you go scorched Earth. That was my choice.
Also, "going with the flow," or doing the bare minimum in this case, is unfair to the people you work with. Those sorts of people are insufferable.
Either way, CYA applies in full. The company is damn sure covering its own, you need to do the same.
Totally fair comments Barto. We'll agree to disagree. I've been in this situation twice in the past, and if the business was to suffer, it's reflective of the changes that were made at the time the 'suffering' started - in Kade's case, the new Manager. Going with the flow is something I had to do for my own piece of mind, both in and outside of work. Do the job adequately and effectively, keep the outside shit to a 'white noise', collect my pay and call it a day. I know Kade well enough to know he's always gone WAY above the call of duty, but (to me) it seems the lack of appreciation has finally mounted to the point that continuing to perform to that level is going to be personally detrimental to him.
What I'm suggesting is that he throttle back his work effort back to the normal range, not in the constant red-line as he usually is (in a good way). I sincerely doubt that would make him 'insufferable' to his peers.
It's kinda funny seeing all these US responses/perspectives (no offense guys, really), towards employment issues, when the US (law) treats employees no better than they do pregnant women :biggrin:.
@ Kade a lot of what you're saying is completely foreign (as Barto said ... pun fully intended) for US workers.
"for cause" is a term meant to imply that an employee violated their terms of employment, or code of conduct, or something that is grounds for immediate termination. In the US, it basically means that companies can terminate employees, and owe them nothing, or next to nothing. In some cases, it's easy (eg, sexual harassment); in others, it's more difficult (eg, poor performance). The company will offer little/no severance, and only their accrued vacation time (where applicable). The US legally does not require employers to allow employees to carry over vacation time, so in most instances, it's a 'use it or lose it' matter regarding annual vacation. If I earn 3 weeks vacation, I have to use it before December 31st, or it vanishes. Termination 'without cause' usually involves some form of severance package, so that the terminated employee doesn't take legal action. And even then, severance packages usually suck ass - unless you're an executive high up in the organization - and usually comes with the condition of "shut your fuckin mouth and don't tell any of our secrets".
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Thanks Chad, a lot of what you said is spot on. Its coming down to my own peace of mind as to why I may need to tone it down. You are correct, my colleagues at times can notice, but not enough that I'm not doing my job or supporting them I wouldn't think.
Yeah I thought that what it may have been when Tim mentioned that, I just wasn't sure if it was the same terms. We have that too, called a 'show cause' notice. It could mean a variety of outcomes, same as what you said. I'm not sure if I am getting one of those but that's what I'm waiting on. It may also just be cautionary warning which is like a scare tactic. To have something on my personnel file either way doesn't sit well, but time will tell.
And yeah, I should remember its different over here with leave and all that stuff. We get it pretty damn good over here. That's astounding to me you guys lose holiday pay if you don't use it. Even XMAS leave we get paid out if we don't use it.
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I'm kinda in line with Tim... smells like this douche-waffle is looking for a reason to string you up. You can do one of two things I suppose - prepare for the legal route as Tim says, or just go with the flow. Do the bare minimum to comply with your job requirements/description. Just go with the flow. I know it's hard, but there comes a time when you (royal) just gotta stop caring about something as much as you do - when it's clear that 'care' is not reciprocated in any manner.
Not your monkey; not your circus. Pretend like you're the water on a lazy river ride. Just go with the flow, and nothing can stop or change you.
Having been in a very similar situation, I respectfully disagree. I mean, I completely agree about having to stop caring about a job. The company doesn't care about you and will keep right on rolling along long after they jettison you. Going with the flow is ultimately unsatisfying, though. Either you've already distinguished yourself in such a way that they're going to find a reason to get rid of you regardless, or the business side of things will deteriorate and you'll be the one to catch the flack. In Kade's case, if management is as inept as he's suggesting, business will suffer and it won't be the idiot boss that is blamed for it (initially, you can't hide forever). It it's reached a head, and his description sure suggests that it has, you either move on under the best circumstances, or you go scorched Earth. That was my choice.
Also, "going with the flow," or doing the bare minimum in this case, is unfair to the people you work with. Those sorts of people are insufferable.
Either way, CYA applies in full. The company is damn sure covering its own, you need to do the same.
Totally fair comments Barto. We'll agree to disagree. I've been in this situation twice in the past, and if the business was to suffer, it's reflective of the changes that were made at the time the 'suffering' started - in Kade's case, the new Manager. Going with the flow is something I had to do for my own piece of mind, both in and outside of work. Do the job adequately and effectively, keep the outside shit to a 'white noise', collect my pay and call it a day. I know Kade well enough to know he's always gone WAY above the call of duty, but (to me) it seems the lack of appreciation has finally mounted to the point that continuing to perform to that level is going to be personally detrimental to him.
What I'm suggesting is that he throttle back his work effort back to the normal range, not in the constant red-line as he usually is (in a good way). I sincerely doubt that would make him 'insufferable' to his peers.
It's kinda funny seeing all these US responses/perspectives (no offense guys, really), towards employment issues, when the US (law) treats employees no better than they do pregnant women :biggrin:.
@ Kade a lot of what you're saying is completely foreign (as Barto said ... pun fully intended) for US workers.
"for cause" is a term meant to imply that an employee violated their terms of employment, or code of conduct, or something that is grounds for immediate termination. In the US, it basically means that companies can terminate employees, and owe them nothing, or next to nothing. In some cases, it's easy (eg, sexual harassment); in others, it's more difficult (eg, poor performance). The company will offer little/no severance, and only their accrued vacation time (where applicable). The US legally does not require employers to allow employees to carry over vacation time, so in most instances, it's a 'use it or lose it' matter regarding annual vacation. If I earn 3 weeks vacation, I have to use it before December 31st, or it vanishes. Termination 'without cause' usually involves some form of severance package, so that the terminated employee doesn't take legal action. And even then, severance packages usually suck ass - unless you're an executive high up in the organization - and usually comes with the condition of "shut your fuckin mouth and don't tell any of our secrets".
It's kinda funny seeing all these US responses/perspectives (no offense guys, really), towards employment issues, when the US (law) treats employees no better than they do pregnant women :biggrin:.
The difference is rather stark, isn't it?
I certainly get what you're saying, and agree completely with "throttling it back to the normal range." Just looking at it through my more cynical eye, I've seen how this is going to play out from both sides. No employee is as valuable as they think they are, and the higher up you are the easier it is to distance yourself from failures (again, for a while). If the outcome is inevitable, which from my American point of view it is, it's better to make the best of it. That could be by pulling the ejection rings now, or by having some fun with it. Admittedly, my approach was not for everybody, and I honestly wouldn't recommend it, but it was the right one for me at the time and I'm glad I went out the way I did.
Also, I think much of this comes down to the nature of the work and the company. Aside from working at a pool I have no idea what Kade does, or what you did when in your comparable situations. I was very much at the bottom of the totem pole, and only went off the reservation when it was clear I'd never be able to move up, contrary to the typical platitudes.
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Totally fair comments Barto. We'll agree to disagree. I've been in this situation twice in the past, and if the business was to suffer, it's reflective of the changes that were made at the time the 'suffering' started - in Kade's case, the new Manager. Going with the flow is something I had to do for my own piece of mind, both in and outside of work. Do the job adequately and effectively, keep the outside shit to a 'white noise', collect my pay and call it a day. I know Kade well enough to know he's always gone WAY above the call of duty, but (to me) it seems the lack of appreciation has finally mounted to the point that continuing to perform to that level is going to be personally detrimental to him.
What I'm suggesting is that he throttle back his work effort back to the normal range, not in the constant red-line as he usually is (in a good way). I sincerely doubt that would make him 'insufferable' to his peers.
That's different, though, than "the bare minimum". "Bare minimum" gets you fired in the U.S. more often than not, if the company has half a handle on what's going on. Working in the mid-range, working adequately and effectively, is a different story, and in the meantime, Kade might even find some job satisfaction in that. You - Kade - need to set yourself up for your next move, whatever it is. If you leave, having done the "bare minimum", in absentia you will be the scapegoat, at least until another comes along (to Bart's point, that manager can't hide forever). If you stay, or that manager leaves before you, you want the track record of still being a good employee, so you can settle into a decent spot regardless.
It's kinda funny seeing all these US responses/perspectives (no offense guys, really), towards employment issues, when the US (law) treats employees no better than they do pregnant women :biggrin:.
Cheap shot; the error isn't in how US law treats employees, it's the idea that we as employees are entitled to anything. Breaking that mindset is a big step in the direction of that "go with the flow" you talk about.
Termination 'without cause' usually involves some form of severance package, so that the terminated employee doesn't take legal action. And even then, severance packages usually suck ass - unless you're an executive high up in the organization - and usually comes with the condition of "shut your fuckin mouth and don't tell any of our secrets".
To be fair, that's one way of looking at things. Not everyone is so cynical. ;) Vacations are encouraged to be taken; the reason for not allowing vacation to accrue is so that people DO take time off. Plus, we're not equipped here in the States (usually) to have someone just fuck off for three months. Honestly, while I am very much aware that I am not indispensable - they could hire someone to do my job as well as me in about two weeks, max - I also know that with our current staffing, I am not invisible either. It would take a full onboarding to replace me, something they are not equipped to do on a temporary basis. Plus, and this is a "Stadler problem", I can't intellectually separate myself for that period of time.
As for "SYFMADTAOOS", there are two sides to that as well; we are an "at-will" employment market. I can leave tomorrow - without the package - and go work for my competitor immediately. If I'm going to be rewarded - I picked that word carefully; there is no "entitlement" in a reward - for my service, it's not unfair that it come with a quid pro quo, and if that QPQ is "don't use what we taught you against us for the betterment of our direct competitor" then so be it.
I'm sorry to sound argumentative, I don't mean it that way, but the "woe is me, poor employee, while the corporations march through life like King Kong" schtick is sort of tired and not always that accurate.
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It's kinda funny seeing all these US responses/perspectives (no offense guys, really), towards employment issues, when the US (law) treats employees no better than they do pregnant women :biggrin:.
Cheap shot; the error isn't in how US law treats employees, it's the idea that we as employees are entitled to anything. Breaking that mindset is a big step in the direction of that "go with the flow" you talk about.
And changing that mindset to a paradigm where people can at least be entitled to not be miserable in their servitude might address the "why people shoot up their neighborhood" question.
Vacations are encouraged to be taken; the reason for not allowing vacation to accrue is so that people DO take time off.
I'd bet you a buck that at least 2/3 of the Americans on this forum have been made to feel bad for actually using their PTO, or been denied it until a time of the company's convenience, normally the last minute before the rollover date. Companies might actually appreciate that time off is good for the employees at a philosophical level, but in my experience practical matters always take precedence.
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Vacations are encouraged to be taken; the reason for not allowing vacation to accrue is so that people DO take time off.
I'd bet you a buck that at least 2/3 of the Americans on this forum have been made to feel bad for actually using their PTO, or been denied it until a time of the company's convenience, normally the last minute before the rollover date. Companies might actually appreciate that time off is good for the employees at a philosophical level, but in my experience practical matters always take precedence.
My current company is very encouraging to use our PTO as it doesn't roll over, but in my past, I've definitely experienced the issues where it's not a good look to take the time off. I agree with you that it really depends on your employer. It really shouldn't be that way, but that's the reality sometimes.
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It's kinda funny seeing all these US responses/perspectives (no offense guys, really), towards employment issues, when the US (law) treats employees no better than they do pregnant women :biggrin:.
Cheap shot; the error isn't in how US law treats employees, it's the idea that we as employees are entitled to anything. Breaking that mindset is a big step in the direction of that "go with the flow" you talk about.
And changing that mindset to a paradigm where people can at least be entitled to not be miserable in their servitude might address the "why people shoot up their neighborhood" question.
Not unreasonable at all. I don't put that on corporations though. We've always had to work - that is, do something we don't want to do for less than we feel we're entitled to - and we didn't have the emotional angst that we do now. What's changed isn't corporations, but that rising entitlement, that rising feeling of being fucked over, that rising feeling of "I'm special and someone better fucking notice it!"
Vacations are encouraged to be taken; the reason for not allowing vacation to accrue is so that people DO take time off.
I'd bet you a buck that at least 2/3 of the Americans on this forum have been made to feel bad for actually using their PTO, or been denied it until a time of the company's convenience, normally the last minute before the rollover date. Companies might actually appreciate that time off is good for the employees at a philosophical level, but in my experience practical matters always take precedence.
Maybe; that's the way it was at GE for sure. And there, vacations weren't sacrosanct even when you took them. I still tell the story of being down in Disney and crawling through the trees over by the old Simpsons ride looking for a spot where they weren't piping in that casino music that's everywhere so I could take a work call. Almost got tossed out of the park by Paul Blart at one point. In my current company, it's quite the opposite (then again, it's a quid pro quo of sorts; my boss doesn't bug me when I'm on vacay, and I go out of my way to make sure we don't bug him when he is).
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7th interview in a row that's a no show.
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Vacations are encouraged to be taken; the reason for not allowing vacation to accrue is so that people DO take time off.
I'd bet you a buck that at least 2/3 of the Americans on this forum have been made to feel bad for actually using their PTO, or been denied it until a time of the company's convenience, normally the last minute before the rollover date. Companies might actually appreciate that time off is good for the employees at a philosophical level, but in my experience practical matters always take precedence.
I'll definitely lean towards team Barto on this matter.
In an effort to shorten the quote pyramid to respond on other points of yours, Bill:
- you and I have a different definition of "bare minimum". It's like Minimum Code Requirement in my books. It's meeting expectations. It wasn't meant to imply "the minimum work / output possible while treading the line of termination for poor performance".
- yes, the comment comparing worker protections to pregnant women was DEFINITELY a cheap shot. Sorry/Not-sorry.
- imo, "the error" is in the limits that US has in place around worker entitlements, and the corresponding culture/thinking/acceptance of that by employees
- "cynical" or "pragmatic"? ;) ;D
- how is it that MANY other nations can operate and maintain their economy just fine when people take extended leaves, but "the US isn't setup that way"?? FFS, France basically closes for the month of August every year. Canada's mat-leave is 12 months, to be split anyway parents want maternally or paternally. Dear lawd! How do we make it work!?!?!?
- I have no problems with conditions begin put around severance packages. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise.
- I didn't think you were argumentative at all - just pointing out your viewpoint as you see things through a different lens (as usual :P)
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It's kinda funny seeing all these US responses/perspectives (no offense guys, really), towards employment issues, when the US (law) treats employees no better than they do pregnant women :biggrin:.
Cheap shot; the error isn't in how US law treats employees, it's the idea that we as employees are entitled to anything. Breaking that mindset is a big step in the direction of that "go with the flow" you talk about.
And changing that mindset to a paradigm where people can at least be entitled to not be miserable in their servitude might address the "why people shoot up their neighborhood" question.
Not unreasonable at all. I don't put that on corporations though. We've always had to work - that is, do something we don't want to do for less than we feel we're entitled to - and we didn't have the emotional angst that we do now. What's changed isn't corporations, but that rising entitlement, that rising feeling of being fucked over, that rising feeling of "I'm special and someone better fucking notice it!"
Perhaps not on corporations directly, but I'd put it on the American work paradigm that gave corporations all of the leverage. And that points to the rising feelings of being fucked over. Kade has upwards of 50 weeks of PTO that is his. He's earned it. It's in the bank. Europeans essentially take August off, along with myriad other perks and benefits. I think there's a real connection between the way American workers are handled and the rest of the world, and our comparative happiness (https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/happiness/). Perhaps the entitlement isn't coming from within, but rather seeing how poorly we have it compared to the rest of the world. That's long been where I put the blame for American disillusionment, which be both consider a key factor in the kill-crazy rampages we're seeing.
Maybe; that's the way it was at GE for sure. And there, vacations weren't sacrosanct even when you took them. I still tell the story of being down in Disney and crawling through the trees over by the old Simpsons ride looking for a spot where they weren't piping in that casino music that's everywhere so I could take a work call. Almost got tossed out of the park by Paul Blart at one point. In my current company, it's quite the opposite (then again, it's a quid pro quo of sorts; my boss doesn't bug me when I'm on vacay, and I go out of my way to make sure we don't bug him when he is).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were for Krauts now, don't you? :biggrin:
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Vacations are encouraged to be taken; the reason for not allowing vacation to accrue is so that people DO take time off.
I'd bet you a buck that at least 2/3 of the Americans on this forum have been made to feel bad for actually using their PTO, or been denied it until a time of the company's convenience, normally the last minute before the rollover date. Companies might actually appreciate that time off is good for the employees at a philosophical level, but in my experience practical matters always take precedence.
The prior administration at my work was like that. PTO was not your time if they deemed it not to be. Can't tell you how many times I would be called/paged/whatever on PTO. A coworker was in Vegas one year with her husband and ended up spending the whole vacation in her room processing requests and it was not made up to her.
The new bosses are a completely different beast. They scream work/life balance and have several free mental health/therapy things we can take advantage of. It's night and day and I am in the same job.
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In an effort to shorten the quote pyramid to respond on other points of yours, Bill:
- you and I have a different definition of "bare minimum". It's like Minimum Code Requirement in my books. It's meeting expectations. It wasn't meant to imply "the minimum work / output possible while treading the line of termination for poor performance". FAIR ENOUGH
- yes, the comment comparing worker protections to pregnant women was DEFINITELY a cheap shot. Sorry/Not-sorry.
- imo, "the error" is in the limits that US has in place around worker entitlements, and the corresponding culture/thinking/acceptance of that by employees What "limits"? The thinking is only the result of first-person selfishness.
- "cynical" or "pragmatic"? ;) ;D CYNICAL. There's nothing "pragmatic" about a subjective opinion that only takes one side into consideration.
- how is it that MANY other nations can operate and maintain their economy just fine when people take extended leaves, but "the US isn't setup that way"?? FFS, France basically closes for the month of August every year. Canada's mat-leave is 12 months, to be split anyway parents want maternally or paternally. Dear lawd! How do we make it work!?!?!? Well, because you don't. Our GDP (that is, the goods and services produced within our borders) is almost $60K per capita. Canada? $44.8K, or 25% less PER PERSON. France? $39.8K, or almost 34% less.
- I have no problems with conditions begin put around severance packages. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise.
- I didn't think you were argumentative at all - just pointing out your viewpoint as you see things through a different lens (as usual :P) It's less about SEEING it through a different lens than it is pointing out that there IS a different lens. The truth is somewhere in between. I'm writing from a pure corporate perspective, and my personal position isn't that rigid. It's a pretty common, and in my view, incomplete, position to take that "Corporate America" is a pack of blood-sucking leeches out to drive the lowly worker into the ground.
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Perhaps not on corporations directly, but I'd put it on the American work paradigm that gave corporations all of the leverage. And that points to the rising feelings of being fucked over. Kade has upwards of 50 weeks of PTO that is his. He's earned it. It's in the bank. Europeans essentially take August off, along with myriad other perks and benefits. I think there's a real connection between the way American workers are handled and the rest of the world, and our comparative happiness (https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/happiness/). Perhaps the entitlement isn't coming from within, but rather seeing how poorly we have it compared to the rest of the world. That's long been where I put the blame for American disillusionment, which be both consider a key factor in the kill-crazy rampages we're seeing.
I'm not sure what the point is there; if the system allows for that PTO, and he did earn it, then he's a fool if he doesn't take it. I'm leery about comparing apples and oranges here. We get different benefits in different ways. It's always problematic to focus on one variable without considering ALL the variables in the equation. No, I can't get 50 weeks consecutively. BUT... I get a lot of my licenses and what not paid for. I have a robust retirement package with matching. My insurance coverage means my family wants for little, medically speaking. In my position, I'm not required to fill out a time card or chain to a desk. I'm going to Keith Urban tomorrow, and I'll leave at 2:30, 3:00 for the hour and a half drive, and as long as I keep my phone on, I'm "working" and no one will say boo. Those are all advantages that have to be weighed when evaluating whether the five weeks vacation, with only ten days carried over, is fair. Or the lack of paternity leave (we're not having any kids any time soon).
Maybe; that's the way it was at GE for sure. And there, vacations weren't sacrosanct even when you took them. I still tell the story of being down in Disney and crawling through the trees over by the old Simpsons ride looking for a spot where they weren't piping in that casino music that's everywhere so I could take a work call. Almost got tossed out of the park by Paul Blart at one point. In my current company, it's quite the opposite (then again, it's a quid pro quo of sorts; my boss doesn't bug me when I'm on vacay, and I go out of my way to make sure we don't bug him when he is).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were for Krauts now, don't you? :biggrin:
Nope; Frogs.
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Nope; Frogs.
I think my point stands, n'est pas? ;)
I think I am trying to factor in different variables. One is that you've spent a great deal of time, money, and effort to get to where you are now. Way to go, sincerely. That's not a route available to everybody, though. Many different obstacles can make the position you've attained unattainable for others, and that includes the Dave Manchester Problem. I'm not knocking you, and I'm not suggesting that everybody should have it just as good. You should be rewarded for what you've accomplished. I am suggesting that maybe there are some things at the bottom end that we should be entitled to. More importantly, suggesting that American workers' feelings of entitlement is part of the problem is, in fact, part of the problem.
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Nope; Frogs.
I think my point stands, n'est pas? ;)
I think I am trying to factor in different variables. One is that you've spent a great deal of time, money, and effort to get to where you are now. Way to go, sincerely. That's not a route available to everybody, though. Many different obstacles can make the position you've attained unattainable for others, and that includes the Dave Manchester Problem. I'm not knocking you, and I'm not suggesting that everybody should have it just as good. You should be rewarded for what you've accomplished. I am suggesting that maybe there are some things at the bottom end that we should be entitled to. More importantly, suggesting that American workers' feelings of entitlement is part of the problem is, in fact, part of the problem.
Your point DOES stand. I get it, and it's a factor. Not an absolute one, but certainly a meaningful one.
As for the rest, maybe so. I didn't list what I did as a brag; there are people better off than me, and there are people worse off than me. I do know that it's not all dumb luck, and I do know that IN MY EXPERIENCE, I always gave what I could regardless of the tea leaves. I told my boss on my first day of working for him, "I want to be the guy you go to when you have no idea where to go", and I've finally gotten to that point. I'm more or less his number two, at least in certain respects. That doesn't happen because you're white, or male, or hung like a horse. That comes with good judgment and measurable results, even if I initially got the job because I was white, male, or hung like a horse (I don't believe that to be true, but you never know; his staff is 60% female).
The problem with entitlements, though, at least of the kind we're talking about here, is that they have to apply to everybody regardless of tenure, stature, or accomplishment. That's what "entitlement" means; it's independent of anything earned, anything subjective. "Entitlements" aren't based on productivity, or metrics, or anything else. You get them from showing up and breathing. So much of our system would have to be recalibrated to accommodate those kinds of additions to the cost model. It can be done, and has been done in the past, but it does no one any good to underestimate or ignore what those recalibrations might look like.
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I'm realising how lucky we do have it over here with out leave benefits reading all this, appreciate the discussion. Everyone has valid points in relation to my situation. I get what Chad means with 'bare minimum,' we know each other well enough that I can take that term and run with it, without it diminishing my work performance that it suffers and creates another problem for myself. I know what he means by that term.
To put it in a little more perspective, the company do have limits on how much paid leave you can bank, however, my role as Supervisor covers rostering, managing people, booking and running programs like school groups, school carnivals, groups wanting pool space, ordering food and merchandise for sale, venue presentation and running the pool plant systems and making sure the water quality is at standard. making sure multiple venues open 7 days a week with everything at standard is ongoingly stressful. From that point of view, I am the only person across all the centres that knows how the plant operations work too. We have a maintenance team for major breakdowns, but for day to day stuff, that's me.
As some of you know from the past, there is supposed to be another one of me to spread the load, but I've been solo now for maybe 2 years. To be fair, this new guy is trying to put ads out to hire another Supervisor, and interviews were supposed to be two days ago. 3 no shows, so I do have a bit of pulling power that if I just took extended leave, that would create a big hole. The industry itself is struggling and finding someone to cover what my PD says these days is impossible and I'm the idiot for still doing it.
Like Bill said, I'm under no illusion that I'm irreplaceable, but I'm somewhat enough of a figure that if I wasn't there, in the short term would certainly be noticed and cause some pain. I am indeed the fool for not taking my leave, I know that now.
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I just want to say again I appreciate all the support and love from everyone, especially this year, you guys are all exceptional people. :heart
When I drag my ass away and take the leave I really should come and visit some of you.
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7th interview in a row that's a no show.
You sound like my boss. It's unreal how many potential employees schedule interviews nowadays and simply don't show up. I am sure those people will make great employees somewhere. :lol :lol
wolfking, a lot of good points here, and I definitely agree to take some time off. It seems like most people where I work take their vacation days in chunks, but I am a fan of random days and half days off. I call them mental health days, and we all need them. I know I do, this year especially.
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Kade, You're an awesome dude! Much love my brother :metal :heart
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7th interview in a row that's a no show.
You sound like my boss. It's unreal how many potential employees schedule interviews nowadays and simply don't show up. I am sure those people will make great employees somewhere. :lol :lol
wolfking, a lot of good points here, and I definitely agree to take some time off. It seems like most people where I work take their vacation days in chunks, but I am a fan of random days and half days off. I call them mental health days, and we all need them. I know I do, this year especially.
Happens with us all the time with Learn to Swim Instructors and Lifeguards, just don't turn up, WTF? Gets worse every year. Or what happens is they do turn up, start and then pull out a week later as they've secured something somewhere else.
To your second point Kev, 'mental health days/sick days' are something I'm thinking of starting to take. The almost year I have of paid leave does not include sick days which is another few months plus banked up. Never taken a single one. Yes, I'm an idiot. I'm thinking for my situation too using some and calling them 'mental health days' would be wise, incase anything ever does eventuate. I don't like using that term personally but I know that's an ego thing on part I need to get over. But I think that comes from working in a large Government organization, I see people do it all the time and then don't come back from their stress leave, yet from what I see, and not to be judgmental, but people milk it more often then they should and the 'stress' leave isn't warranted, but I'm wired a little differently. I guess my year would definitely warrant some time off like that though lol.
The time off then comes with, 'what the fuck do I do with myself now everyday', that's the fear.
Kade, You're an awesome dude! Much love my brother :metal :heart
Thanks Tom! :heart :hefdaddy
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7th interview in a row that's a no show.
You sound like my boss. It's unreal how many potential employees schedule interviews nowadays and simply don't show up. I am sure those people will make great employees somewhere. :lol :lol
wolfking, a lot of good points here, and I definitely agree to take some time off. It seems like most people where I work take their vacation days in chunks, but I am a fan of random days and half days off. I call them mental health days, and we all need them. I know I do, this year especially.
I'm a fan of this going back to my childhood when my mom would occasionally keep me out of school on some random day. She also called them mental health days. For a long while I liked to take a random Wednesday off in the Spring and go some place to take some pictures or whatnot. I've found that the more I travel the less inclined I am to do that here in Dallas, however. I still do enjoy the occasional meaningless day off, though.
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- imo, "the error" is in the limits that US has in place around worker entitlements, and the corresponding culture/thinking/acceptance of that by employees What "limits"? The thinking is only the result of first-person selfishness.
US workers have all kinds of entitlements - minimum wages, safe working environments, freedom from harassment, FMLA, workers comp etc... Many other countries go well beyond what the US provides. Ergo, the US limits the entitlements to employees (relatively speaking). First-person selfishness?? I don't know what that means / what you're trying to say.
-- "cynical" or "pragmatic"? ;) ;D CYNICAL. There's nothing "pragmatic" about a subjective opinion that only takes one side into consideration.
then that makes us both cynical I suppose. :biggrin:
- how is it that MANY other nations can operate and maintain their economy just fine when people take extended leaves, but "the US isn't setup that way"?? FFS, France basically closes for the month of August every year. Canada's mat-leave is 12 months, to be split anyway parents want maternally or paternally. Dear lawd! How do we make it work!?!?!? Well, because you don't. Our GDP (that is, the goods and services produced within our borders) is almost $60K per capita. Canada? $44.8K, or 25% less PER PERSON. France? $39.8K, or almost 34% less.
<sigh> Really?!?! I know I don't need to remind you that correlation is not causation ;). I'm stunned that you want to use GDP/capita as the yardstick by which to measure best practices in employment standards. If that's the case, then why doesn't the world aspire to Qatar's or Kuwait'a employment practices - shit Brunei has a higher GDP/capita than the US. By your logic, then the US employment practices 'don't work' (compared to those nations with a higher per capita GDP)?. C'mon man, you're smarter and better than that. I could point out numerous flaws in this logic/reasoning, but the only other thing I'll say is it's a tad arrogant to imply that the labor practices 'don't work' for nations with a lower GDP/capita than the US. I know you're not that arrogant, so I'll assume it was a slip of the fingers and loose wording.
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I'm not sure what the point is there; if the system allows for that PTO, and he did earn it, then he's a fool if he doesn't take it. I'm leery about comparing apples and oranges here.
Again... this is a very AMERICAN viewpoint. Other nations pay it out at the end of employment - LEGALLY... whether voluntary or involuntarily. So why is anyone a fool for not taking their vacation when they are LEGALLY entitled to it at anytime up to and including the end of their employment? Maybe the plan is to take a year long sabbatical (ostensibly, with pay)? Maybe this is someone's retirement plan (ie, to retire at 64 instead of 65). There are plenty of reasons to not take vacation - and luckily, in some countries that benefit doesn't have a yearly expiration date. Imagine if your paycheque expired if you didn't spend it before the next payday. Ludicrous, right? Well, in some regards that's how some non-Americans view the lack of PTO carry-over.
We get different benefits in different ways. It's always problematic to focus on one variable without considering ALL the variables in the equation. No, I can't get 50 weeks consecutively. BUT... I get a lot of my licenses and what not paid for. I have a robust retirement package with matching. My insurance coverage means my family wants for little, medically speaking. In my position, I'm not required to fill out a time card or chain to a desk. I'm going to Keith Urban tomorrow, and I'll leave at 2:30, 3:00 for the hour and a half drive, and as long as I keep my phone on, I'm "working" and no one will say boo. Those are all advantages that have to be weighed when evaluating whether the five weeks vacation, with only ten days carried over, is fair. Or the lack of paternity leave (we're not having any kids any time soon).
All fair points. Many of those are employer offered benefits in the US, and at the discretion of each company. Some are legally mandated (vacation, paternity), with the point being that most 1st world nations offer much more to employees than the US does. National laws certainly favor the corporations moreso than employees (again, relatively speaking) in the US.
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I just want to say again I appreciate all the support and love from everyone, especially this year, you guys are all exceptional people. :heart
When I drag my ass away and take the leave I really should come and visit some of you.
:metal:
You fuckin better!
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When it comes to vacation, my company would cut you down to 50 hours end of the fiscal year and pay out the hours cut. Next year, you just keep collecting and what you don't use they pay out when you leave.
They also accrue more vacation time per hour next year.
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At my university they mandate a minimum number of holidays per year you have to take each year, and you can only carry over a certain number of days to next year if you don't use them.
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In my company we cash out 40 hours and roll over 40, but lose anything over the 80 hours.
I think all companies have different policies.
The only time you'd get denied would be requesting a vacation around a major holiday or during an Inventory, or if multiple people in the same department requested the same week off.
I only brought up the PTO, because I would not want to see Kade get screwed over the FOUR YEARS worth of PTO that he has accumulated because his company tried to fire him for "just cause", and try and wiggle out of paying him.
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In my company we cash out 40 hours and roll over 40, but lose anything over the 80 hours.
I think all companies have different policies.
The only time you'd get denied would be requesting a vacation around a major holiday or during an Inventory, or if multiple people in the same department requested the same week off.
I only brought up the PTO, because I would not want to see Kade get screwed over the FOUR YEARS worth of PTO that he has accumulated because his company tried to fire him for "just cause", and try and wiggle out of paying him.
Uh... it was 48 weeks, not 48 months. It's still a lot, but not quite an entire leap-year cycle. :lol
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In my company we cash out 40 hours and roll over 40, but lose anything over the 80 hours.
I think all companies have different policies.
The only time you'd get denied would be requesting a vacation around a major holiday or during an Inventory, or if multiple people in the same department requested the same week off.
I only brought up the PTO, because I would not want to see Kade get screwed over the FOUR YEARS worth of PTO that he has accumulated because his company tried to fire him for "just cause", and try and wiggle out of paying him.
Uh... it was 48 weeks, not 48 months. It's still a lot, but not quite an entire leap-year cycle. :lol
:blush
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In my company we cash out 40 hours and roll over 40, but lose anything over the 80 hours.
I think all companies have different policies.
The only time you'd get denied would be requesting a vacation around a major holiday or during an Inventory, or if multiple people in the same department requested the same week off.
I only brought up the PTO, because I would not want to see Kade get screwed over the FOUR YEARS worth of PTO that he has accumulated because his company tried to fire him for "just cause", and try and wiggle out of paying him.
Haha, if we include sick leave which isn't paid out, it would be a year and a half. But as Chad said, if I were fired or left, that 48 weeks would get paid out.
Chad is right, older workers that are heading into retirement would bank it up and leave work early but still obviously be on the payroll. I took Bills comment about being a 'fool' was from my own welfare and sanity viewpoint. The more I bank up though, the more I like to see the buffer I have if I ever walk away.
Like Tim, we can cash out too. I've done it a few times but prefer not as the tax is astronomical.
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Kade, You're an awesome dude! Much love my brother :metal :heart
I agree; love to catch a show and a beer in New York City, home of the namesake band here.
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7th interview in a row that's a no show.
You sound like my boss. It's unreal how many potential employees schedule interviews nowadays and simply don't show up. I am sure those people will make great employees somewhere. :lol :lol
wolfking, a lot of good points here, and I definitely agree to take some time off. It seems like most people where I work take their vacation days in chunks, but I am a fan of random days and half days off. I call them mental health days, and we all need them. I know I do, this year especially.
I'm a fan of this going back to my childhood when my mom would occasionally keep me out of school on some random day. She also called them mental health days. For a long while I liked to take a random Wednesday off in the Spring and go some place to take some pictures or whatnot. I've found that the more I travel the less inclined I am to do that here in Dallas, however. I still do enjoy the occasional meaningless day off, though.
Every couple weeks, a friend of mine from high school would ditch off one afternoon and go to a local strip club for lunch (according to him, their ziti was top shelf) and then rent a room at a local hotel and take a nap for most of the afternoon (no, he wasn't bringing the strippers back; he was absolutely the kind of guy that would have admitted that if he had). We used to laugh at him, but I'm a little older now and I find great joy in putting a blue box on my outlook calendar in the afternoon and just walking away from work. Sometimes I walk the yard, sometimes I play PS4, sometimes I nap, sometimes I take a drive. Depends what my head needs.
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- imo, "the error" is in the limits that US has in place around worker entitlements, and the corresponding culture/thinking/acceptance of that by employees What "limits"? The thinking is only the result of first-person selfishness.
US workers have all kinds of entitlements - minimum wages, safe working environments, freedom from harassment, FMLA, workers comp etc... Many other countries go well beyond what the US provides. Ergo, the US limits the entitlements to employees (relatively speaking). First-person selfishness?? I don't know what that means / what you're trying to say.
"First person selfishness" = "feeling entitled to more than what you're getting, independent of any standard for whether you're actually worth it or not".
-- "cynical" or "pragmatic"? ;) ;D CYNICAL. There's nothing "pragmatic" about a subjective opinion that only takes one side into consideration.
then that makes us both cynical I suppose. :biggrin:
No, because I'm not putting forth my own subjective opinion that only takes one side into consideration. I'm giving you the other side - that's already in my analysis - that YOU'RE missing. This applies in part to the answer below, but I'm not looking for corporations to trample workers. I think it has to be a balance, and the first step in that balance is recognizing there are two sides. How many posts have there been here over the years about how "my boss and his bosses are fucking idiots; I could do their job in my sleep! I tell them to do this and they ignore me!" If I've heard that once, I've heard it a million times, and what we fail to account for is 995,000 of those million times, those "idiot bosses" are the very same people that five years ago were saying "my boss and his bosses are fucking idiots, etc. etc. etc.". How many posts over the years have treated corporations like they are sentient thinking beings, ignoring that each and every decision is made by a human, like you, that goes home every night to their wife and kids and has to look himself/herself in the mirror every morning just like you. Doesn't mean that every decision is a good one, but it also means that not every decision can be based around maximizing one employee's income, job satisfaction and retirement fund.
- how is it that MANY other nations can operate and maintain their economy just fine when people take extended leaves, but "the US isn't setup that way"?? FFS, France basically closes for the month of August every year. Canada's mat-leave is 12 months, to be split anyway parents want maternally or paternally. Dear lawd! How do we make it work!?!?!? Well, because you don't. Our GDP (that is, the goods and services produced within our borders) is almost $60K per capita. Canada? $44.8K, or 25% less PER PERSON. France? $39.8K, or almost 34% less.
<sigh> Really?!?! I know I don't need to remind you that correlation is not causation ;). I'm stunned that you want to use GDP/capita as the yardstick by which to measure best practices in employment standards. If that's the case, then why doesn't the world aspire to Qatar's or Kuwait'a employment practices - shit Brunei has a higher GDP/capita than the US. By your logic, then the US employment practices 'don't work' (compared to those nations with a higher per capita GDP)?. C'mon man, you're smarter and better than that. I could point out numerous flaws in this logic/reasoning, but the only other thing I'll say is it's a tad arrogant to imply that the labor practices 'don't work' for nations with a lower GDP/capita than the US. I know you're not that arrogant, so I'll assume it was a slip of the fingers and loose wording.
It wasn't meant to be arrogant. It was meant to show simply that focusing on one variable is a fool's game. Maybe GDP is the metric, maybe it's not, that's not for me to say. But every decision, every decision POINT, has a consequence. For better or worse, we DO live in a society here in the States where returns and productivity matter. You mentioned two other countries, presumably because their employment policies were so much better than the U.S. and that's what I responded to. I don't know if they are better or not, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but pointing out that there is an impact to productivity. I have no idea what the employment practices are in Qatar or Kuwait; they may be sacrificing their children at blood altars for that GDP for all I know, or it could be something like a function of the particular economies in question. We can dig in to Qatar and Kuwait if you like...
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I'm not sure what the point is there; if the system allows for that PTO, and he did earn it, then he's a fool if he doesn't take it. I'm leery about comparing apples and oranges here.
Again... this is a very AMERICAN viewpoint. Other nations pay it out at the end of employment - LEGALLY... whether voluntary or involuntarily. So why is anyone a fool for not taking their vacation when they are LEGALLY entitled to it at anytime up to and including the end of their employment? Maybe the plan is to take a year long sabbatical (ostensibly, with pay)? Maybe this is someone's retirement plan (ie, to retire at 64 instead of 65). There are plenty of reasons to not take vacation - and luckily, in some countries that benefit doesn't have a yearly expiration date. Imagine if your paycheque expired if you didn't spend it before the next payday. Ludicrous, right? Well, in some regards that's how some non-Americans view the lack of PTO carry-over.
You're arguing for the sake of arguing. The "fool" comment was agreeing with Bart and, I presume, you, in the context of corporate versus employee decision-making. I was only really talking about leaving the money on the table out of principle. You're talking about various other ways of seeing the benefit; that's a different conversation.
And yes, I'm taking a very American point of view. One, I'm American. Two, the comparisons were TO America (at least that's what Bart and I were talking about). So in that context, an American point of view is not only appropriate, but dare I say, necessary.
We get different benefits in different ways. It's always problematic to focus on one variable without considering ALL the variables in the equation. No, I can't get 50 weeks consecutively. BUT... I get a lot of my licenses and what not paid for. I have a robust retirement package with matching. My insurance coverage means my family wants for little, medically speaking. In my position, I'm not required to fill out a time card or chain to a desk. I'm going to Keith Urban tomorrow, and I'll leave at 2:30, 3:00 for the hour and a half drive, and as long as I keep my phone on, I'm "working" and no one will say boo. Those are all advantages that have to be weighed when evaluating whether the five weeks vacation, with only ten days carried over, is fair. Or the lack of paternity leave (we're not having any kids any time soon).
All fair points. Many of those are employer offered benefits in the US, and at the discretion of each company. Some are legally mandated (vacation, paternity), with the point being that most 1st world nations offer much more to employees than the US does. National laws certainly favor the corporations moreso than employees (again, relatively speaking) in the US.
And I'll repeat what I've been saying all along: that they offer them doesn't make them the standard we should always follow. It's a complicated multi-variable system, and every action has a corresponding reaction. Also, bear in mind that some of the "decisions" taken here in the States are NOT driven by law, they are driven by the market. What laws purport to do (and fail, I can explain why) is to level the economic playing field. For example, a company might WANT to offer paternity, but because of the market they are in, it may be an untenable expense if none of their competitors do the same. Laws attempt to lower the playing field by making all the companies subject to that law have to absorb the same expense. (I've provided a hint in that answer as to why that approach doesn't generally work; our ACA is another hint, as is global warming).
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You're arguing for the sake of arguing. The "fool" comment was agreeing with Bart and, I presume, you, in the context of corporate versus employee decision-making. I was only really talking about leaving the money on the table out of principle. You're talking about various other ways of seeing the benefit; that's a different conversation.
Fair points. I didn't mean to come across argumentative, but see how it could be taken that way.
And I'll repeat what I've been saying all along: that they offer them doesn't make them the standard we should always follow. It's a complicated multi-variable system, and every action has a corresponding reaction.
Fair point again. I just have trouble with this notion of American exceptionalism. I fail to see how the USA is so unique that the beneficial things other nations do "wouldn't work here". Not meant to be argumentative, I just cannot be sold that argument (ie, belief/perspective) - so don't try :biggrin:
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I didn't say anything about American exceptionalism and I didn't say anything about "those things not working here". I did question what "success" meant. The only variable here, for better or worse, isn't "what maximizes the experience for the employee".
Having said that, while I didn't mention "American exceptionalism", and I wouldn't, there is an element that we HAVEN'T discussed, and that is, America's role on the world stage. We are unique, in a way, in that we DO fund a fair amount of activity around the world that other countries don't. It's benevolent, I guess, on it's face, but it DOES serve us. The military-industrial complex is, in a very real way, a welfare program of sorts. But even that is just another variable to be considered, not an absolute thing.
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I didn't say anything about American exceptionalism and I didn't say anything about "those things not working here". I did question what "success" meant. The only variable here, for better or worse, isn't "what maximizes the experience for the employee".
If it wasn't implied, then I apologize for interpreting these statements with a little whiff of 'but we're different':
"Plus, we're not equipped here in the States (usually) to have someone just fuck off for three months"
"It's a complicated multi-variable system, and every action has a corresponding reaction"
Having said that, while I didn't mention "American exceptionalism", and I wouldn't, there is an element that we HAVEN'T discussed, and that is, America's role on the world stage. We are unique, in a way, in that we DO fund a fair amount of activity around the world that other countries don't. It's benevolent, I guess, on it's face, but it DOES serve us. The military-industrial complex is, in a very real way, a welfare program of sorts. But even that is just another variable to be considered, not an absolute thing.
You literally go from confirming not to mention "exceptionalism", to using the word "unique" in one sentence :lol. You're correct in that you didn't literally use the word "exceptionalism"... but I think "unique" accomplishes the same intent. And I never thought I'd see the US referred to as "benevolent" when it comes to the world stage. Where's Dave when he's needed most? :lol :lol :lol
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You literally go from confirming not to mention "exceptionalism", to using the word "unique" in one sentence :lol.
Used in the context of American exceptionalism, I believe that 'exceptional' also imparts a value judgement. We're not exceptional because we're unique. We're exceptional because we're unique in a way that makes us better than the rest of you filthy socialist bastards. I think Stadler is relying on that distinction.
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7th interview in a row that's a no show.
You sound like my boss. It's unreal how many potential employees schedule interviews nowadays and simply don't show up. I am sure those people will make great employees somewhere. :lol :lol
wolfking, a lot of good points here, and I definitely agree to take some time off. It seems like most people where I work take their vacation days in chunks, but I am a fan of random days and half days off. I call them mental health days, and we all need them. I know I do, this year especially.
I'm a fan of this going back to my childhood when my mom would occasionally keep me out of school on some random day. She also called them mental health days. For a long while I liked to take a random Wednesday off in the Spring and go some place to take some pictures or whatnot. I've found that the more I travel the less inclined I am to do that here in Dallas, however. I still do enjoy the occasional meaningless day off, though.
Every couple weeks, a friend of mine from high school would ditch off one afternoon and go to a local strip club for lunch (according to him, their ziti was top shelf) and then rent a room at a local hotel and take a nap for most of the afternoon (no, he wasn't bringing the strippers back; he was absolutely the kind of guy that would have admitted that if he had). We used to laugh at him, but I'm a little older now and I find great joy in putting a blue box on my outlook calendar in the afternoon and just walking away from work. Sometimes I walk the yard, sometimes I play PS4, sometimes I nap, sometimes I take a drive. Depends what my head needs.
I should do stuff like this, just take an afternoon. I'm so robotic in my routine and it's hard to crack.
Kade, You're an awesome dude! Much love my brother :metal :heart
I agree; love to catch a show and a beer in New York City, home of the namesake band here.
You're on my list mate.
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I didn't say anything about American exceptionalism and I didn't say anything about "those things not working here". I did question what "success" meant. The only variable here, for better or worse, isn't "what maximizes the experience for the employee".
If it wasn't implied, then I apologize for interpreting these statements with a little whiff of 'but we're different':
"Plus, we're not equipped here in the States (usually) to have someone just fuck off for three months"
"It's a complicated multi-variable system, and every action has a corresponding reaction"
Those things aren't necessarily "different" though. I guess. I think Bart is right, in that you're inserting a value judgment that I don't necessarily intend to make. "Unique" isn't, in and of itself, "exceptional". Ask my wife (about me). ;)
Having said that, while I didn't mention "American exceptionalism", and I wouldn't, there is an element that we HAVEN'T discussed, and that is, America's role on the world stage. We are unique, in a way, in that we DO fund a fair amount of activity around the world that other countries don't. It's benevolent, I guess, on it's face, but it DOES serve us. The military-industrial complex is, in a very real way, a welfare program of sorts. But even that is just another variable to be considered, not an absolute thing.
You literally go from confirming not to mention "exceptionalism", to using the word "unique" in one sentence :lol. You're correct in that you didn't literally use the word "exceptionalism"... but I think "unique" accomplishes the same intent. And I never thought I'd see the US referred to as "benevolent" when it comes to the world stage. Where's Dave when he's needed most? :lol :lol :lol
Yeah, and again, I'm not making the value judgment you are. We ARE unique in the ways I pointed out: who else spends what we do globally on the military (I'm talking things like NATO and the UN, not our domestic military spend). One of the things that Bernie NEVER accounted for in his "I want to be SWEDEN!" is that Sweden doesn't play the role we do on the world stage. Not better, not worse, that's up to you to decide based on your politics, but it IS different.
And I worded that section very carefully: I said "it's benevolent I GUESS, ON ITS FACE, BUT IT DOES SERVE US." I don't know that it's benevolent, but that's the reason given for it's happening, and even if it's not - and it may not be - it STILL serves a purpose. Many purposes for us, actually. Most things in life aren't single-asset-entities. I hold the door open for my wife for many reasons, all at once: it's what a man does, she likes it, I'm teaching my kids to be gracious, I'm looking for a little action this weekend, it gives me a chance to survey the store to see if there's anything to be concerned about, it let's me check out her can as she walks through the door... ALL of those are true all at the same time.
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Bernie said “I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden, and Norway and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people.” Not, "I want to be SWEDEN!".
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Bernie said “I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden, and Norway and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people.” Not, "I want to be SWEDEN!".
But we haven't learned. We're still talking about it.
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I'm just musing out loud here but it's something I think about a lot these days as I watch the global order transmogrify before my eyes. A lot of the 'socialist' policies adopted by the wealthier European countries are to an extent only possible because up until now the US has effectively guaranteed their national security. In other words countries like my native UK and, to an even greater extent, Germany (effectively occupied by the US military for decades) were able to direct their funds to social programmes, as I'll loosely call them, because they didn't need to worry about military spending. It'll be interesting in the coming years to see what happens to these countries as they have now basically been told they need to kick in way more than they have been for their defence. As an example, Britain's prized NHS is facing the worst crisis in its history...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/25/worst-nhs-staffing-crisis-in-its-history-is-putting-patients-at-serious-risk-mps-warn
...at the same time that the government are having to pledge a huge increase in its defence spending. The NHS is potentially within years of having to be privatised. And this pattern can be seen across Western Europe. I'm trying not to stray into P/R territory here but Russia's invasion of Ukraine will, I think, place enormous strain on the 'socialist' safety nets we (or at least I) have taken for granted in Western Europe. There is likely no bigger critic on earth of America's military expansionism than I, BUT, it is undeniable that where America's 'allies' are concerned, having your national security bankrolled by the US frees you up to spend money on stuff like the NHS (it's no coincidence that the NHS was created in 1948, which is pretty much the exact time the British handed over the reins as global leader to the US). Now that all European nations have pledged to take greater financial responsibility for their own security, the age of our (European) smugness (sorry but that's kind of what it is) regarding our 'fairer' societies will come under strain I think.
To be clear I'm not saying our 'socialist' policies are ONLY possible because of America picking up the tab for Europe's security. These things are ideological too, Europe leans towards a 'society over the individual' ethos whereas America doesn't. But I'm saying it's made far easier by not having to shoulder the financial burden of guaranteeing your national security. So far it's been a generally mutually beneficial arrangement. America paying for the EU's and, overwhelmingly, NATO's defence means Europe and NATO never go against US economic interests, and in turn Europe can afford 'cheap' healthcare and university education because they know someone like Mad Vlad will never start lobbing bombs at them so long as that arrangement exists.
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People who take something out of context and twist it around to fit their own narrative.
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People who take something out of context and twist it around to fit their own narrative.
Politics pisses me off sometimes too.
(See what I did there?)
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Who said anything about politics? That goes without saying. I'm talking about right here.
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Who said anything about politics? That goes without saying. I'm talking about right here.
I know; I was taking what you said out of context and twisting it to fit my own narrative.
Just busting stones a little to get a laugh, nothing more.
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Haha Stads. You got me! :lol
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Well, what do you know? It happened again. Fuckers arguing for the sake of argument cause they can't feel good about themselves unless they're trashing someone else's opinion. :loser:
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Well, what do you know? It happened again. Fuckers arguing for the sake of argument cause they can't feel good about themselves unless they're trashing someone else's opinion. :loser:
HAHA, wasn't me!
I don't know to what you're exactly referring, but I'll add this: I've gone on record as not being a fan of Chris Murphy, my Senator, but he made a post the other day showing two kids in the Little League World Series. Pitcher beans the batter right in the side of the head. Kid goes down - probably more scared than hurt, but still - and the kid on the mound just stood there. Batter finally went to first base and was looking at the pitcher who was just standing there, apparently starting to cry. Batter calls time out, and walks over to the pitcher and hugs him, telling him it's okay. Murphy tweets that and says "This is who we are.". The comments - on both sides - were barely grade school. "That's not who we are, we're [this; trashing liberals] or [that; trashing conservatives]". One guy says "how would you know" and essentially calls Murphy a p***y. One guy says "Yeah that's who we are until we start watching Conservative media outlets and get brainwashed!"
Like for fuck's sake; you can't let even a LITTLE humanity creep in? These kids are 10, 11, and 12; you're not secure enough in your whatever to put the kids first and take it for what it is? Like I said, I'm no fan of Chris Murphy, but HE wasn't politicizing it (well, to the extent ANY tweet from a U.S. Senator isn't politicized by it's very nature, but I'm giving him a pass).
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oof, that example would piss me off too.
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So another one; I was on a work trip, about an hour from the airport; on the last night (Wednesday) I drove to the airport and got a hotel close so I didn't have to drive in the morning. I got there, did some work, ate, and it was sort of late but not that late, so I went to a local dive bar and had a couple beers. I stared talking to this guy who was already... not fit to drive, let's say, and at one point he goes "so I'm 60 this year and my kids... blah blah blah". We keep talking and I mention something about kids, and he says "well, you're obviously older than me so..."
I'm 54. WTF, bro!?!
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Must’ve been all those big words you were using. ;D
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Step 1. Illinois Secretary of State mails me a notary application for my August 2022 notary public renewal.
Step 2. Complete application, mail back in mid-July with my $10.00 check to address listed on the application.
Step 3. Wait
Step 4. Receive letter in mid-August from Secretary of State indicating that my application for a HANDICAP PARKING PLACARD was denied.
???
Step 5. Call Secretary of State. Explanation from them that my application was sent to the wrong department. And "oh, by the way," there is a new application with a $15.00 fee, which is why my application and check were likely returned.
Step 6. Get angry, because I completed the application that was mailed to me, which was the old application, but it was denied because it's not the new application with updated fee.
Step 7. Get angrier over inefficient state bureaucracy causing my notary commission to expire while I have to re-submit the application.
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Step 1. Illinois Secretary of State mails me a notary application for my August 2022 notary public renewal.
Step 2. Complete application, mail back in mid-July with my $10.00 check to address listed on the application.
Step 3. Wait
Step 4. Receive letter in mid-August from Secretary of State indicating that my application for a HANDICAP PARKING PLACARD was denied.
???
Step 5. Call Secretary of State. Explanation from them that my application was sent to the wrong department. And "oh, by the way," there is a new application with a $15.00 fee, which is why my application and check were likely returned.
Step 6. Get angry, because I completed the application that was mailed to me, which was the old application, but it was denied because it's not the new application with updated fee.
Step 7. Get angrier over inefficient state bureaucracy causing my notary commission to expire while I have to re-submit the application.
He's a little too busy with his Tumblers to be able to focus on the job. :lol
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Happened last week, but I've been chosen to be on my county's grand jury. So I have to go in to indict 20-40 cases every Wednesday until December. Some cases are interesting, but over all it's just super boring. :-\
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Yesterday for at least the 4th time in the 30 years I’ve owned my house, someone backed over my mailbox. I’ll let you guess the gender of driver.
But seriously, completely putting aside misogyny and gender stereotypes and rhetoric and anything else that would derail the discussion, why can’t women back up?
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That sucks but was it a woman all 4 times? I just think a bad driver is a bad driver, male, female or otherwise.
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Yes all 4 times :-\.
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Let me guess, she was driving a pos with no back up camera and sensors?
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My male cousin took my brother's mailbox down 2 times.
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Let me guess, she was driving a pos with no back up camera and sensors?
Hey easy there..I drive a POS with no back up camera and sensors. :lol
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Let me guess, she was driving a pos with no back up camera and sensors?
Hey easy there..I drive a POS with no back up camera and sensors. :lol
Like we didn't know.
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:lol Yeah, I did up until about 7 years ago. Not that I ever needed a back up camera anyway.
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Hard to look backwards in your 50's. Lol
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Don't need a backup camera in my car. It's my car and I know where it is. In rentals those things are wonderful, though. Don't really need the camera, but the sonar pings are huge when parallel parking.
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Of course most of us who are older don't need a camera. It is nice to have though. I've not yet fully come around to completely relying on the back up camera as even after like 4 years of having a car with one, my instincts are still to turn around and look most of the time. However, my right lane camera is so clutch for changing lanes that I almost never look right when doing so now.
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My old stiff neck prevents me from actually turning around, but I use my mirrors. Obviously, I don't have a backup camera, but for our rentals, they are pretty cool.
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So........ I went to Strasburg, PA this weekend with my family. Five hours, +/-, each way, then one day we went to Philly (actually Cherry Hill, NJ) which was an hour each way. So a lot of driving.
I'm seriously considering running for office in CT. And if and when I do, there's going to be a new sheriff in town. I will immediately draft a bill to equip all toll structures, as well as each bridge structure, and reprogram each camera that is currently used to track traffic, to record the progress of cars. (We already have them for registering license plates, and many states use them for giving tickets at red lights/stop signs). If you're in any lane other than the farthest right hand lane, and there are at least three cars within a certain time frame behind you (say, ten car lengths), BAM, you get a ticket. And we're going to set that fucker at a minimum of $350 per. I might even add dollars for every car over three behind you. If you get pulled over for using your phone while driving, it will be treated like a DWI, with all that entails (including loss of license). I will require a retest at every license renewal (goes without saying I would revamp the test materials as well).
All I know is traffic was brutal all weekend and made far worse by idiots not paying attention to the matter at hand.
There's more, but that's the gist of it for now.
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Found Stadler’s car.
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So........ I went to Strasburg, PA this weekend with my family. Five hours, +/-, each way, then one day we went to Philly (actually Cherry Hill, NJ) which was an hour each way. So a lot of driving.
I'm seriously considering running for office in CT. And if and when I do, there's going to be a new sheriff in town. I will immediately draft a bill to equip all toll structures, as well as each bridge structure, and reprogram each camera that is currently used to track traffic, to record the progress of cars. (We already have them for registering license plates, and many states use them for giving tickets at red lights/stop signs). If you're in any lane other than the farthest right hand lane, and there are at least three cars within a certain time frame behind you (say, ten car lengths), BAM, you get a ticket. And we're going to set that fucker at a minimum of $350 per. I might even add dollars for every car over three behind you. If you get pulled over for using your phone while driving, it will be treated like a DWI, with all that entails (including loss of license). I will require a retest at every license renewal (goes without saying I would revamp the test materials as well).
All I know is traffic was brutal all weekend and made far worse by idiots not paying attention to the matter at hand.
There's more, but that's the gist of it for now.
I can get behind this. Not sure if you read the NYtimes daily today about car accidents going up, but it's very noticeable how poor people drive lately and I guess it's no longer just something I feel is happening, it's backed by stats.
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Found Stadler’s car.
Awesome!
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:lol
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:lol in my humble opinion of driving through these states, it's the NYers ruining it for everyone!
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:lol in my humble opinion of driving through these states, it's the NYers ruining it for everyone!
HEY HEY NOW!!! You are right
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So........ I went to Strasburg, PA this weekend with my family. Five hours, +/-, each way, then one day we went to Philly (actually Cherry Hill, NJ) which was an hour each way. So a lot of driving.
I'm seriously considering running for office in CT. And if and when I do, there's going to be a new sheriff in town. I will immediately draft a bill to equip all toll structures, as well as each bridge structure, and reprogram each camera that is currently used to track traffic, to record the progress of cars. (We already have them for registering license plates, and many states use them for giving tickets at red lights/stop signs). If you're in any lane other than the farthest right hand lane, and there are at least three cars within a certain time frame behind you (say, ten car lengths), BAM, you get a ticket. And we're going to set that fucker at a minimum of $350 per. I might even add dollars for every car over three behind you. If you get pulled over for using your phone while driving, it will be treated like a DWI, with all that entails (including loss of license). I will require a retest at every license renewal (goes without saying I would revamp the test materials as well).
All I know is traffic was brutal all weekend and made far worse by idiots not paying attention to the matter at hand.
There's more, but that's the gist of it for now.
Funny, I was visiting my sister in Bernville, PA (about 40 minutes north of Strasburg). I was caught in traffic both ways. 2:30 drive turned into 4 hours each way.
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Stupid-ass drivers. Can't leave my house and drive a mile to pick up lunch without witnessing several of them. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. :\
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:lol in my humble opinion of driving through these states, it's the New Jersey people ruining it for everyone!
Agreed. :P
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:lol in my humble opinion of driving through these states, it's the New Jersey people ruining it for everyone!
Agreed. :P
:angry:
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Eh who am I kidding, everyone in this whole area is an awful driver.
Except me obviously.
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The worst thing about bad drivers is when they cause a blue screen right in the middle of a finite element calculation.
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:lol :rollin :lol
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The worst thing about bad drivers is when they cause a blue screen right in the middle of a finite element calculation.
I C what you did there.
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Found Stadler’s car.
I'd never drive a Saturn, but I'd write that on my window!!!! :)
And that's the rub. This is the "tragedy of the commons" in a way. Everyone thinks "oh, one car isn't going to make a difference!" or "you're not going anywhere anyway, so what's the big deal?" But some interchanges have 10,000 or more cars moving through in a day (sometimes in HOURS) and when you mulitply that six or seven car lengths, instead of the one or two that is normal for slow moving traffic, you're increasing the car density by that same amount. There are books and studies done on this. I took an entire class in college on "traffic". There's a great book called "Traffic" on this very subject. On a highway, most congestion is caused by the speed DIFFERENTIAL, where you have cars moving at different rates through a finite area. It's a dick move to some, but if you have a two lane merge into one, it's faster for EVERYONE if cars fill BOTH LANES and then merge, peacefully, one at a time at the choke point. Stopping halfway down to merge slows everything down because you now have a speed differential and you have the uncertainty of what the other car is doing next.
On a state or rural road, if you have one car holding up five or ten, doesn't seem like much, but if any of those cars can even make it through ONE light quicker on their journey, that can reduce their time on the road by upwards of 15 minutes. This is science, folks, not about "whether that douchebag got one over on me and is ahead of me!" It's not a wrestling match, it's a fluid dynamics problem.
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Just found out Mercyful Fate and Kreator are playing in NYC November, went to buy tickets but they are $250 each. What. The. Fuck? >:( :censored
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Just found out Mercyful Fate and Kreator are playing in NYC November, went to buy tickets but they are $250 each. What. The. Fuck? >:( :censored
That had to be a resell. No way they are charging that much.
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Just found out Mercyful Fate and Kreator are playing in NYC November, went to buy tickets but they are $250 each. What. The. Fuck? >:( :censored
That had to be a resell. No way they are charging that much.
Yes, $180 plus service charge. Way too much.
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Have a look at this shit! Up to $900!!!
https://tickets-center.com/tickets/v/Kings-Theatre/13305/e/Mercyful-Fate/4098952/?eventId=4098952&eventName=Mercyful+Fate&venueName=Kings+Theatre&venueId=13305&eventDateTime=11%2f10%2f2022+19%3a00%3a00&city=Brooklyn&stateProvince=NY&performerId=149416&performerName=Mercyful+Fate&cid=71399756613828&nid=2&accid=0&vaid=1634&pfaid=79431&tagid=106&wsvar=2-71399756613828+%5bmsclkid%7c360528983c7f187288634b83bb6e25c5%5d&msclkid=360528983c7f187288634b83bb6e25c5&device=t&ismobile=false&loc_physical_ms=99879&referer=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bing.com%2f&vx=0#quantity_1
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Have a look at this shit! Up to $900!!!
https://tickets-center.com/tickets/v/Kings-Theatre/13305/e/Mercyful-Fate/4098952/?eventId=4098952&eventName=Mercyful+Fate&venueName=Kings+Theatre&venueId=13305&eventDateTime=11%2f10%2f2022+19%3a00%3a00&city=Brooklyn&stateProvince=NY&performerId=149416&performerName=Mercyful+Fate&cid=71399756613828&nid=2&accid=0&vaid=1634&pfaid=79431&tagid=106&wsvar=2-71399756613828+%5bmsclkid%7c360528983c7f187288634b83bb6e25c5%5d&msclkid=360528983c7f187288634b83bb6e25c5&device=t&ismobile=false&loc_physical_ms=99879&referer=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bing.com%2f&vx=0#quantity_1
Yeah, they are all resales. That's why they are so much.
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Have a look at this shit! Up to $900!!!
https://tickets-center.com/tickets/v/Kings-Theatre/13305/e/Mercyful-Fate/4098952/?eventId=4098952&eventName=Mercyful+Fate&venueName=Kings+Theatre&venueId=13305&eventDateTime=11%2f10%2f2022+19%3a00%3a00&city=Brooklyn&stateProvince=NY&performerId=149416&performerName=Mercyful+Fate&cid=71399756613828&nid=2&accid=0&vaid=1634&pfaid=79431&tagid=106&wsvar=2-71399756613828+%5bmsclkid%7c360528983c7f187288634b83bb6e25c5%5d&msclkid=360528983c7f187288634b83bb6e25c5&device=t&ismobile=false&loc_physical_ms=99879&referer=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bing.com%2f&vx=0#quantity_1
Yeah, they are all resales. That's why they are so much.
I just can't swing that cash right now. Sucks for me.
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I wish you got on those tickets when they were released early in the am.
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It sucks because there's tickets available but they have all been upcharged by livenation already with the platinum pricing. It sucks that they don't have any that are just still at day 1 face value. I've noticed this getting worse lately.
Honestly, for the concerts that are going to be hot tickets, you need to get those at the on sale time and maybe preferably via a presale. The only other option is hope for day of show sales.
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I wish people in AZ would figure this shit out. Slow ass drivers travel in packs across all lanes. No one in front of them and everyone behind them trying to get through. Sorry ass muthafuckas!
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Got the car inspected yesterday to the tune of $1650 after all the necessary repairs.
I figure, yeah that sucks but at least the car's in great shape now. As I'm pulling into my driveway today, the tire pressure low sensor comes on :P
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My doctor pissed me off today. Last night, mychart gave me notifications that my bloodwork was done and I was able to look at the results. Everything was good, but immature granulocytes were increased. I knew that can either be an indicator of infection, inflammation, or leukemia. I clicked the "have a question about your rest results" button and asked him at what point should I be concerned.
I got two responses:
The first one elaborated and explained the results, and finished with "He needs to quit worrying about this."
Then I got a second response: "Dr. Smith asks that you remember to wait at least 24 hours give us a chance to review his lab results before calling with questions." Bitch, I sent a message. Answer at your leisure.
I know it's nothing big, but it just reads like they're annoyed by my question. It really pissed me off. Whatever bedside manner he has in the office definitely doesn't translate to his text communication. I'm almost put off enough to look for another primary care physician.
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Wow, was that first response not intended to you?
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Wow, was that first response not intended to you?
I'm pretty sure a nurse or someone gets the question and then dictates his response after they relay it to him.
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So far, nothing has pissed me off today...yet. For me, that is significant.
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Wow, was that first response not intended to you?
I'm pretty sure a nurse or someone gets the question and then dictates his response after they relay it to him.
:facepalm:
:lol
That reminds of a time when we were fighting with Home Depot about some countertops they installed. We actually went pretty high up the ladder for this, and my wife was on a call with two separate office personnel from Home Depot, who were on different phones. After the call, they thought my wife hung up when one of them said to the other about my wife, "She's a real bitch." :lol
Let's just say we were taken care of after that.
So far, nothing has pissed me off today...yet. For me, that is significant.
Yeah but I thought you wake up pissed off! :lol
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Well, Tim just pissed him off. :lol
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Well, Tim just pissed him off. :lol
:lol
Just doing what I can. :lol
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Got the car inspected yesterday to the tune of $1650 after all the necessary repairs.
I figure, yeah that sucks but at least the car's in great shape now. As I'm pulling into my driveway today, the tire pressure low sensor comes on :P
I'm sort of relating to this today. July I got the 25K (I'm at 30K miles) full meal deal car maintenance on my Hyundai Sonata Hybrid which included a tire alignment for something around $1200. When I pick up the car, I'm told I'm going to need tires soon. Great...I'll budget for 1-2 months.
Today I go to get the tires and they suggest I get the alignment checked. I tell them I just did that (and haven't really driven all the much since then TBH) and it probably isn't necessary as they want to charge an extra $180. "Ok we'll put it up there and if you don't need it, we won't charge you for it." Well guess what - they claim it was necessary.
So either my dealership is jacking me around or the tire guys are. FFS >:(
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Got the car inspected yesterday to the tune of $1650 after all the necessary repairs.
I figure, yeah that sucks but at least the car's in great shape now. As I'm pulling into my driveway today, the tire pressure low sensor comes on :P
I'm sort of relating to this today. July I got the 25K (I'm at 30K miles) full meal deal car maintenance on my Hyundai Sonata Hybrid which included a tire alignment for something around $1200. When I pick up the car, I'm told I'm going to need tires soon. Great...I'll budget for 1-2 months.
Today I go to get the tires and they suggest I get the alignment checked. I tell them I just did that (and haven't really driven all the much since then TBH) and it probably isn't necessary as they want to charge an extra $180. "Ok we'll put it up there and if you don't need it, we won't charge you for it." Well guess what - they claim it was necessary.
So either my dealership is jacking me around or the tire guys are. FFS >:(
I feel your pain. The whole thing is such a racket, lol
The very next day the low tire pressure light goes on so I take it a place called Just tires and they are like "oh, the tires are fine, the two sensors need to be replaced at $150 a piece" :omg:
Like, when does it stop :lol
So I also was dealing with being in the middle othe tire people and the dealer. Not fun at all
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Wow, was that first response not intended to you?
I'm pretty sure a nurse or someone gets the question and then dictates his response after they relay it to him.
It's a damn good thing you don't know how much they hate your guts. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHl0zPR5vJQ)
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Got the car inspected yesterday to the tune of $1650 after all the necessary repairs.
I figure, yeah that sucks but at least the car's in great shape now. As I'm pulling into my driveway today, the tire pressure low sensor comes on :P
I'm sort of relating to this today. July I got the 25K (I'm at 30K miles) full meal deal car maintenance on my Hyundai Sonata Hybrid which included a tire alignment for something around $1200. When I pick up the car, I'm told I'm going to need tires soon. Great...I'll budget for 1-2 months.
Today I go to get the tires and they suggest I get the alignment checked. I tell them I just did that (and haven't really driven all the much since then TBH) and it probably isn't necessary as they want to charge an extra $180. "Ok we'll put it up there and if you don't need it, we won't charge you for it." Well guess what - they claim it was necessary.
So either my dealership is jacking me around or the tire guys are. FFS >:(
Are you having abnormal tire wear, or is your car pulling strongly to a specific direction? As a former Hyundai owner my Hyundai service dept was full of guys short on chromosomes (hell my Porsche dealer is pretty fucking shitty too)
As them to show you why it's necessary, get a printed sheet of your current alignment readings.
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So far, nothing has pissed me off today...yet. For me, that is significant.
Yeah but I thought you wake up pissed off! :lol
Maybe you're getting him mixed up with me.
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Having to go to a work 'venues workshop event' tonight from 4pm-9pm, whatever the fuck that is. Not impressed.
Plus, it's run by people not in my field and only been with the organisation not very long at all. The main guy running it too, I had a meeting with him and a key staff member yesterday about him having an issue with her doing too many hours time in lieu and the company not happy. I challenged the fuck out of this guy for an hour and a half, it was great and he had no answers to some of my points.
Being at a organisation for 15 years and then getting a big boss come in with zero aquatic experience and trying to tell me how things are going to run........
(https://media.tenor.com/images/d878619f09b6a0b8728555cb2ea37bd0/tenor.gif)
.....I might have some fun with this with the mood I'm in, what's to lose? It's funny when you have managers come in, don't ask questions and try and change things just to make them tick their boxes and look good and meet their KPI's. Don't swing your cock around here mate. I swear some of these fuckers live in future world when they haven't a clue of the industry.
Anyway, endless mini rant over.
I forgot I made this post, but after all this over the last month, it has ended up with me apparently having to go to People and Culture (HR) because I challenged this guy and told him things he wants to implement might not work. He's threatening me with disciplinary action. :lol
At this event I just brought up a few things they were changing (rostering systems, other protocols) that I didn't know about and my staff were like "WTF". I asked for them in an open forum where they asked for questions cause I wasn't told myself beforehand, and got howled down.
Long story but afterwards to sum it up he basically tells me "he's the boss now, and my behavior is breaking the company's code of conduct." I was simply asking a few questions intently and trying to get my point across because you know, I may have an idea on how things run in my area. Told him in the one on one meeting where he's trying to scare me afterwards that, his lack of empathy and attitude towards me and lack of due diligence for what I've been through with my accident has been non existent and atrocious and I actually take offence. He returned serve with "what you've been through is no excuse for bad behavior." Roger that, I have never used it once as an excuse and not missed a day of work since, I just wanted him to know that he has never shown any sympathy towards me afterwards and that affects our working relationship moving forward. I have no respect because he showed me none but he doesn't want a bar of that. Complete sociopath I think.
Going to sit back and let things fall in his face. Not helping you mate and I'll work to rule and let's see how good you go.
Now to be clear, I'm no saint, I know that I and bring things on myself, but instead and nutting things out like men, his superiority complex takes hold and needs to do things in pathetic way instead of us sitting down and talking it out. I tried to do that, but his mouth moves too much, complete twat. I may be outspoken but all my staff thought it was great I asked the questions for them. They all thought it was great I spoke up for them when needed and tried to put their concerns over the changes forward. I feel that's what leaders need to do for their people, so fuck him.
Going back to this a couple of months ago, I hadn't heard anything from this dickhead boss. He's a daily pain in the ass without a fucking clue. The other day he had a go about my work shirt being faded and he'll get me another one because it looks daggy and unprofessional. "I work in the sun you fuckhead. I don't sit behind a computer all day dickhead like some" Just annoying little shit. He's blatantly doing anything he can as most managers do to make himself look good and get ahead, and he doesn't give a fuck who he steps on. I'm still doing my job but this prick is taking the piss.
Anyway, we have a yearly performance appraisal thing which mounts to nothing and mine is done with my direct boss which we are cool, we didn't even have it, she's cool and she just filled her part and I just filled it in my part and I kinda slammed him and upper management. I also said in there that he threatened me with disciplinary action but after 2-3 months I haven't heard anything. The cunt apparently read it and sent me through email a 'cautionary notice,' which outlined what I did wrong those months ago and which parts of the code of conduct I broke. Not sure where I go from here. Might just make it my mission to bring this cunt down. He has more to lose than me and for the business, he needs me a lot more than I need him. :lol
It's sad with the issues we all go through, you know and a lot of the stories people share here lately, and things like I have one older worker who has been with me for years who is struggling as her husband of 40 years goes through endless cancer treatments which is slowly starting to be less effective with cancers coming back time and time again but she still needs to work, and you have a prick like this trying to assert his dominance by being an asshole without any perspective for anything past his own ego. The only way he can try and keep asserting his dominance also is by his work title because he knows fuck all and obviously has a small dick and needs to make himself feel better. It's all just sad.
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The cunt apparently read it and sent me through email a 'cautionary notice,' which outlined what I did wrong those months ago and which parts of the code of conduct I broke. Not sure where I go from here. Might just make it my mission to bring this cunt down. He has more to lose than me and for the business, he needs me a lot more than I need him. :lol
This just shows what a pussy he is. The fact that he's so sensitive over what you wrote in a self appraisal shows how fucking weak he is. And the email he just sent you....is harrasment at worst and unprofessional at best. You should have the freedom to say what you want in a self appraisal or a survey without fear or reprisal. And a "Cautionary Notice" email is nothing short of harrasment.
If he was a real manager, or man, he'd have come by your office and had an honest chat with you.
You want to take him down, show that email to a Human Resource person in your company that you trust.
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The cunt apparently read it and sent me through email a 'cautionary notice,' which outlined what I did wrong those months ago and which parts of the code of conduct I broke. Not sure where I go from here. Might just make it my mission to bring this cunt down. He has more to lose than me and for the business, he needs me a lot more than I need him. :lol
This just shows what a pussy he is. The fact that he's so sensitive over what you wrote in a self appraisal shows how fucking weak he is. And the email he just sent you....is harrasment at worst and unprofessional at best. You should have the freedom to say what you want in a self appraisal or a survey without fear or reprisal. And a "Cautionary Notice" email is nothing short of harrasment.
If he was a real manager, or man, he'd have come by your office and had an honest chat with you.
You want to take him down, show that email to a Human Resource person in your company that you trust.
I think my direct boss, she talked him out of sending it to me, but then yeah, the yearly performance review you're supposed to be able to be just that open and honest. He did mention to her that he read I mentioned it so he thought, he close it out by sending it. She told him that was a big mistake but see, me putting some negative things down looks bad on him, so he's trying to one up me and put his foot down again. He's kinda met someone who is not gonna bend over and take it up the ass. Fuck you mate.
Yeah, the email is addressed by him and was emailed to me with only my direct boss CCed, no one from People and Culture (HR) which I thought was strange. I'm thinking of forwarding it to them and asking how legit it is and it says it's on my personnel file. I want to know exactly what that means. It says in the letter that "you agreed your behaviour was inappropriate." I only said basically "righto mate, whatever you want me to agree with," becuase he said if I didn't go along with it, the ramifications would be greater. He basically bullied and blackmailed me into it, which I'm kinda pissed at myself now reading his stupid letter." I'll mull over it, but not too worried about it, not gonna waste time on it, he'll get himself unstuck, I've seen them come and go all before. I guess this year, my fuse is shorter.
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Sounds like you got or are getting fucked over.
Document everything. If you go months without hearing from him, then fine. You have a right to know what's in your file, and you should also have a right to attach a rebuttal to anything you disagree with.
I've done that a couple of times.
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Sounds like you got or are getting fucked over.
Document everything. If you go months without hearing from him, then fine. You have a right to know what's in your file, and you should also have a right to attach a rebuttal to anything you disagree with.
I've done that a couple of times.
Oh he's definitely trying to fuck me over, he makes that pretty clear. I wrote in my performance review that I am getting stale and losing faith in the company and am possibly thinking about other careers or avenues. I think he read it and did this to try and tip me over the edge. But with the struggle with him not being able to secure more staff and especially a Supervisor, he muppets hands are tied. It kinda makes me laugh. Yeah, I am thinking of putting a contest in against some of it.
He's just one of those holier than thou, arrogant mother fuckers who has a stupid title and expects everyone below him to bow and kiss his feet. It's pretty clear if you don't kiss his ass and tell him he's fantastic he takes offence and wants you out. As I said, I can see him undoing himself. I'll tread carefully and maybe ask a couple of questions in regards to the letter.
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Got the car inspected yesterday to the tune of $1650 after all the necessary repairs.
I figure, yeah that sucks but at least the car's in great shape now. As I'm pulling into my driveway today, the tire pressure low sensor comes on :P
I'm sort of relating to this today. July I got the 25K (I'm at 30K miles) full meal deal car maintenance on my Hyundai Sonata Hybrid which included a tire alignment for something around $1200. When I pick up the car, I'm told I'm going to need tires soon. Great...I'll budget for 1-2 months.
Today I go to get the tires and they suggest I get the alignment checked. I tell them I just did that (and haven't really driven all the much since then TBH) and it probably isn't necessary as they want to charge an extra $180. "Ok we'll put it up there and if you don't need it, we won't charge you for it." Well guess what - they claim it was necessary.
So either my dealership is jacking me around or the tire guys are. FFS >:(
Are you having abnormal tire wear, or is your car pulling strongly to a specific direction? As a former Hyundai owner my Hyundai service dept was full of guys short on chromosomes (hell my Porsche dealer is pretty fucking shitty too)
As them to show you why it's necessary, get a printed sheet of your current alignment readings.
No - I wasn't having any issues and I used to drive a car that went out of alignment every time I hit a pot hole so I know what that feels like.
The dealership and the tire place both gave me print outs supposedly showing me where it was out of alignment. I still think it is BS and a scam. The only possible thing I can think of is that taking tires off and putting new ones on could potentially shift the alignment? I have no idea...
Good to know your POV on the Hyundai service crew. My husband also tells me to ditch them and go to a private mechanic but this is our first hybrid vehicle and I'm a bit nervous about a private mechanic understanding the ins and outs of it.
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Unless you are putting mismatched tires on opposing sides you shouldn't have a recurring alignment issue. I'd say get an independent opinion. A hybrid car is still a car, you can always take it to get the battery pack services at the dealer.
Just to give you a brief run down of my Hyundai experience. My first ever brand new car was a 2019 Hyundai Veloster Turbo Ultimate. Around 400 miles in my windshield cowl became unsealed and made a really annoying rattle at any speed. Take in to the dealer. A week later they said they couldn't hear it, put 90 miles on the car, and left a small bag of fries under the driver's seat. Took two other Hyundai dealers before I found one conptetant enough to to fix it.
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What's the worst thing a dad can to to his daughter? The absolute most vile, disgusting, repulsive thing you can think of? Found out my dad did just that. Fuck everything about him. I'm changing my name as soon as I can. I used to idolize him. I considered making the three hour drive to beat his ass, but no good would come of it.
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Oh shit!
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Damn. I have no words for that. Just...damn.
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That's horrifying. I'm sorry on every level. When do we really know someone? :|
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Jesus Christ! No words can be said. You'd be in your right mind to go and beat his ass truthfully, fuck....
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I don't know if I'm pissed or just unbelievably appalled. How upside down does the fucking world have to be for parents to tell their fully grown kids how to vote this coming midterm? I just can't fucking believe this shit. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I was leaving the hotel parking garage this morning and a car was stopped at the exit gate. Lady gets out of the car and tells me she didn't pay for parking and needs to do it.... but she left her car there (when I pulled up, I left plenty of space to back out because I was weary of a car sitting at the gate). What an asshole. I waited 15 minutes for her to pay and get back.
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In the continuing saga of my wife's medical issues I now have an entry here after loading up the Angry/Depressed thread and a bit in the fogey thread.
My wife is on home oxygen at the moment. I monitor my insurance claims like a hawk. I see yesterday that her oxygen claim was denied. Now, mind you, she was in hospitals of my employer whose health insurance I carry.
Turns out, they set her up with an out of network provider and insurance refuses to pay. We are already on the hook for almost $400 now and we just swapped out travel tanks yesterday for a fresh batch. My employer is now frantically trying to set us up with a covered provider.
Really don't need this right now.
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I was leaving the hotel parking garage this morning and a car was stopped at the exit gate. Lady gets out of the car and tells me she didn't pay for parking and needs to do it.... but she left her car there (when I pulled up, I left plenty of space to back out because I was weary of a car sitting at the gate). What an asshole. I waited 15 minutes for her to pay and get back.
Ugh. I've had to deal with that a handful of times myself. Worst one I encountered was in a garage under a hotel that I had a monthly pass to park in. The hotel didn't manage the garage in any way shape or form. LAZ Parking leased the garage from them and they took their profits. So when there was a problem at the garage, no one at the hotel could do anything. I had to sit in a line of cars that built up behind someone for over a half hour because an LAZ employee needed to be dispatched out from their central location in Hartford. It was infuriating.
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In that case, my problem yesterday was no big deal :lol geeze, I was just glad I didn't need to be somewhere.
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Had virtual jury duty today. It was supposed to end at 4:30pm, since I didn't get called all day, I figure I'm good. Nope. 4:27pm, I need to report back tomorrow >:(
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I flew to NY from Florida for the JP show . I’m seated in 7F , We’re in the air and a man in 6E starts unwrapping a large aluminum foil something ..When opened I see it is an Orange Pepper as big as a big grapefruit with the very top sliced off and packed to the very top and overflowing with tuna fish !!! It F’n stinks !!! I am beside myself!! How can someone be so inconsiderate to eat that on a plane ? He took his time eating this monster , biting into it like it was an apple !! I’m wearing a mask and I’m shoving Twizzlers under it into my mouth so i don’t lose my breakfast …(I don’t eat Tunafish !) After about 25 minutes, he’s done …thank goodness!!!
Now , the little lady next to me in 7E reaches into her bag and pulls out a little ziploc back with 3 hard boiled eggs !!! Are you F’n Serious right now ??!! She’s eating these stinky things like she hadn’t eaten in a month , licking her fingers and picking the yolk crumbles out of the bag …!!! I DONT EAT EGGS !!
I’m on a 321 Airbus that holds about 200 people!!! What are the F’n odds that 2 people eating 2 of possibly the stinkiest food items there are , are right next to me ??? Some people truly are inconsiderate!!
Anyway the show was phenomenal!!!
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:lol
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Welp, this happened...6 hours later and I'm still waiting for a tow truck
(https://i.imgur.com/8s5bSuN.jpg)
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Did someone steal your tires??
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Yeah, all 4 of them
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WTF is wrong with people, seriously. This was during the day obviously? Where are you? Any cameras?
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Yeah, all 4 of them
Wow! That is fucked.
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Yeah, all 4 of them
Who does that??? Wtf???? :censored
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NYC is just going to shit when it comes to crime. The towing person told me my car was the 4th one he towed today with the same situation.
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NYC is just going to shit when it comes to crime. The towing person told me my car was the 4th one he towed today with the same situation.
So much for feeling special. :lol
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NYC is just going to shit when it comes to crime. The towing person told me my car was the 4th one he towed today with the same situation.
Where in NYC are you?
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Wtf!
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NYC is just going to shit when it comes to crime. The towing person told me my car was the 4th one he towed today with the same situation.
Where in NYC are you?
Northwest Bronx, in Riverdale
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NYC is just going to shit when it comes to crime. The towing person told me my car was the 4th one he towed today with the same situation.
Where in NYC are you?
Northwest Bronx, in Riverdale
Oh yea. I’m only in NYC three years so far but I’ve heard stories of up there.
I work in Harlem and was told to be careful if I leave after dark.
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Yeah I remember you mentioned working at the college (I graduated from there).
10 hour wait and the towing company just took the car. Now to wait until Monday to know when it will be repaired.
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Wow that's terrible. My coworker had the same thing happen but in Queens. Sorry, shit like that is so fucked up.
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I feel bad; that sucks. It's everywhere though; around here - and I live relatively speaking in the woods - they are stealing catalytic converters out from under cars. The local tire place isn't accepting car drop-offs the night before because they can't guarantee the safety of the car overnight.
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Lots of catalytic converter theft around here, as well.
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Lots of catalytic converter theft around here, as well.
Been a big thing locally here too.
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So I learned today that my employer is planning to roll out a new "wellness program" in 2023 called Virgin Pulse as a means to keep our benefits costs down. The previous one we had was called "Vitality" and it fucking sucked ass. Basically you unless you want to pay a lot more for your health insurance coverage, you must participate.
I literally have monthly trainings and exercises to teach and prevent data breaches in my job. And yet now my employer is more than willing to have my personal private day to day activity transmitted ("the hope is for day to day interface with the program") to a giant corporate conglomerate and never bothered to ask any employee if they might have a problem with this. On top of that, say I want to use their app to track my steps or my work outs or my sleep I don't even get to use the fitness tracker I already have. I have to PURCHASE another tracker to sync with this program.
Ugggghhhhhhhh I am more than livid right now. :censored
I really need to retire....I'm just sick of this fucking bullshit.
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So I learned today that my employer is planning to roll out a new "wellness program" in 2023 called Virgin Pulse as a means to keep our benefits costs down. The previous one we had was called "Vitality" and it fucking sucked ass. Basically you unless you want to pay a lot more for your health insurance coverage, you must participate.
I literally have monthly trainings and exercises to teach and prevent data breaches in my job. And yet now my employer is more than willing to have my personal private day to day activity transmitted ("the hope is for day to day interface with the program") to a giant corporate conglomerate and never bothered to ask any employee if they might have a problem with this. On top of that, say I want to use their app to track my steps or my work outs or my sleep I don't even get to use the fitness tracker I already have. I have to PURCHASE another tracker to sync with this program.
Ugggghhhhhhhh I am more than livid right now. :censored
I really need to retire....I'm just sick of this fucking bullshit.
My employer has had us use the ChooseWell program through Virgin Pulse for the past 4-5 years. It’s tied to our benefits like yours in a slightly different way, but the incentive is essentially the same. The company sets aside a certain amount of money for its employees to use on medical costs for the year, and we have to earn it through the points we accumulate through the app. I hate doing it, and I hate having to answer its inane questions daily (truthfully, I‘m active enough that I don’t really need to do this, but it speeds the process up), so once I have the points I need for that incentive, that shit gets deleted immediately from my phone. It starts again every year in November, and I’m usually done around March or so. Sounds like your situation might be more of a year round thing, though?
As far as the fitness tracking goes, that sucks if you have to buy a new one. If you’re not able to sync to whatever you’ve got now, that’s horseshit. You can always manually enter your stuff into the app, but no one wants to do that. I’ve got a Garmin watch that syncs with the app fairly well. Yours isn’t able to do that/isn’t compatible? If not, yeah, that’s yet another stupid inconvenience. Sorry that this is getting foisted upon you as it feels essentially pointless.
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An employee. He is stunted mentally and I'd acting out today since I took him off the lift driving because he almost hit another employee with a fork truck.
He is not following our safety protocols. Now he's acting like a jerk to others.
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An employee. He is stunted mentally and I'd acting out today since I took him off the lift driving because he almost hit another employee with a fork truck.
He is not following our safety protocols. Now he's acting like a jerk to others.
Time to bring out the ban hammer.
Also, we use Virgin Pulse, but it's optional. I don't , use it for any tracking or anything. The only way it impacts me is that they have an in-person basic check (height/weight/measurements/blood draw), and if you take part, you get your health insurance for a LOT cheaper.
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About some of the previous posts; healthcare should be painless for the participants. That's why admin costs for healthcare are so high, to pay for all the administrators and customer representatives and HR folk that are supposed to make this stuff easy for the lay-person. Where the f- are these poeple when you need them? I'm starting open enrollment next week and I dread it. DREAD IT.
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My peeve of the day? Backpacks, and the morons that wear then fully strapped to their back AND forget immediately that they are wearing them. I was on a Delta flight that had the cabin door BEHIND first class, and I was in the front row, so I was right at the door. I got hit with no less than THREE backpacks from people that got on, then spun around to get the sanitary wipe from the flight attendant. WHAP! Then when we're fixing to get off the plane, I stood up, took my stuff out of the overhead and the guy next to me says "can I get my stuff?" Sure enough! So he gets his backpack, puts it full on, then spins around to reach for his whatever, might have been his cock for all I know, and WHAP! I get his backpack square in the chest. F these people. OBLIVIOUS.
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My peeve of the day? Backpacks, and the morons that wear then fully strapped to their back AND forget immediately that they are wearing them. I was on a Delta flight that had the cabin door BEHIND first class, and I was in the front row, so I was right at the door. I got hit with no less than THREE backpacks from people that got on, then spun around to get the sanitary wipe from the flight attendant. WHAP! Then when we're fixing to get off the plane, I stood up, took my stuff out of the overhead and the guy next to me says "can I get my stuff?" Sure enough! So he gets his backpack, puts it full on, then spins around to reach for his whatever, might have been his cock for all I know, and WHAP! I get his backpack square in the chest. F these people. OBLIVIOUS.
I use one exclusively for travel, but I always take it off and carry it when boarding for that very reason. Also, I don't have to take it off before chucking it in the bin. Interestingly, I have a second backpack inside the first one, which I found in the kids section of Walmart. It's just big enough for my laptop, headphones, charger, and bag of trail mix. Before boarding I'll undock that one and wear it so I can carry the big one. Hard to accidentally whack somebody with a backpack made for 10 year old girls (but easy and effective to do intentionally if the need arises :lol).
Organization is sometimes helpful.
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I get Bill's point, but given how airlines love to lose luggage, if someone can fit some of their stuff into a carry-on backpack, I totally get why they'd do it, rudeness and crashing into others aside.
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Hard to accidentally whack somebody with a backpack made for 10 year old girls (but easy and effective to do intentionally if the need arises :lol).
:lol
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I get Bill's point, but given how airlines love to lose luggage, if someone can fit some of their stuff into a carry-on backpack, I totally get why they'd do it, rudeness and crashing into others aside.
I have no beef with backpacks. I don't carry one, but only because I have an LL Bean bag that serves the same purpose. My stepson has one of those bad-ass military ones and he wears it all the time for travel. He does NOT though, IMMEDIATELY FORGET HE'S WEARING IT. That's the part. You do you as far as how you travel, but have some consideration, is all.
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I get Bill's point, but given how airlines love to lose luggage, if someone can fit some of their stuff into a carry-on backpack, I totally get why they'd do it, rudeness and crashing into others aside.
For me it's not wanting to pay to check my stuff. Hell, even if it's free I may well still carry it on just to save time at the arr airport. In any case, mine is designed to be a carry-on bag, and it holds enough for me to travel indefinitely. It's just that it is big enough to hit people with if you're not paying attention.
All of us have bought things that have been among the great purchases of our lifetimes. Something we bought that becomes permanently indispensable. That bag was one of mine. Couldn't imagine travel without it. And adding the smaller, satellite bag, which fits fully loaded in the front pocket of the mothership, made it even better.
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My peeve if someone brings a backpack and small luggage. Takes up all the space. Of late, going 1st class is the way to go.
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My peeve if someone brings a backpack and small luggage. Takes up all the space. Of late, going 1st class is the way to go.
I sit with the plebes in the back, your highness.
We fly Jetblue and we can have a carry on that stays with us in our seat and a small luggage piece for the overhead bin.
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It was $45 more to get 1st class and checking in luggage is $30 so to get a 1st class seat it cost $15 more. No brainer.
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It was $45 more to get 1st class and checking in luggage is $30 so to get a 1st class seat it cost $15 more. No brainer.
Flying from BOS to PVD or something? For most flights it's going to cost a whole lot more than $45 for that upgrade, so don't count on it being a reliable option going forward.
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Manchester NH to Washington DC.
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Yeah, $45 upgrade to first class is not something I'm familiar with, but if I saw that I'd hop on it too.
As for the backpacks.... I've whacked people before accidentally. My work backpack is pretty big and I often will have it fully utilized. I will say, I do apologize if I hit someone. I try to be very good and conscious of my surroundings, but mistakes have happened before.
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I get Bill's point, but given how airlines love to lose luggage, if someone can fit some of their stuff into a carry-on backpack, I totally get why they'd do it, rudeness and crashing into others aside.
I have no beef with backpacks. I don't carry one, but only because I have an LL Bean bag that serves the same purpose. My stepson has one of those bad-ass military ones and he wears it all the time for travel. He does NOT though, IMMEDIATELY FORGET HE'S WEARING IT. That's the part. You do you as far as how you travel, but have some consideration, is all.
Sorry man, I can’t resist …..
Your well being is not their problem. TEND YOUR OWN GARDEN!!!
<Tongue firmly in cheek>
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I get Bill's point, but given how airlines love to lose luggage, if someone can fit some of their stuff into a carry-on backpack, I totally get why they'd do it, rudeness and crashing into others aside.
For me it's not wanting to pay to check my stuff. Hell, even if it's free I may well still carry it on just to save time at the arr airport. In any case, mine is designed to be a carry-on bag, and it holds enough for me to travel indefinitely. It's just that it is big enough to hit people with if you're not paying attention.
All of us have bought things that have been among the great purchases of our lifetimes. Something we bought that becomes permanently indispensable. That bag was one of mine. Couldn't imagine travel without it. And adding the smaller, satellite bag, which fits fully loaded in the front pocket of the mothership, made it even better.
Hell yeah to this. The less time spent in an airport, the better!
I get Bill's point, but given how airlines love to lose luggage, if someone can fit some of their stuff into a carry-on backpack, I totally get why they'd do it, rudeness and crashing into others aside.
I have no beef with backpacks. I don't carry one, but only because I have an LL Bean bag that serves the same purpose. My stepson has one of those bad-ass military ones and he wears it all the time for travel. He does NOT though, IMMEDIATELY FORGET HE'S WEARING IT. That's the part. You do you as far as how you travel, but have some consideration, is all.
Oh yeah, I totally get it. We are on the same page. :tup :tup
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The ER.
My wife is having more medical issues and spent last weekend in the hospital again. Answer was a shrug as to what was causing her heightened issues. Got an emergency appointment with a doctor today who told us to go back to the ER and she called ahead with exactly what to do. As I type this, we have been in the waiting room for 10 hours. Yes, 10 freaking hours. Still haven't been seen besides initial triage about 9 hours ago. A nurse changed my wife's oxygen tank for the third time who has been here the whole time we have. She was practically in tears apologizing to us. Not her fault. She yelled at her charge nurse to get us back but that seems to have failed.
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Wow, WTF? Sat in one for 3 hours last night before I said fuck it and walked out.
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Wow, WTF? Sat in one for 3 hours last night before I said fuck it and walked out.
Where did you go????
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Wow, WTF? Sat in one for 3 hours last night before I said fuck it and walked out.
Where did you go????
The ER.
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Sad as it is, the best way to get in right away at the ER is to call an ambulance rather than bringing yourself there. You get a room right away.
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Wow, WTF? Sat in one for 3 hours last night before I said fuck it and walked out.
Where did you go????
The ER.
I know but you said fuck it and walked out. You went home? Everything ok??
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Oh yeah, I'm fine. :)
I went home.
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Oh yeah, I'm fine. :)
I went home.
Oh ok, glad to hear. :)
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Lots of catalytic converter theft around here, as well.
Been a big thing locally here too.
Just reading the last couple pages of this thread tonight after having just read about this yesterday. Had no idea this was a thing until then. Just crazy numbers in these indictments.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nationwide-catalytic-converter-theft-ring-federal-bust-21-arrests/
The DOJ said brothers Tou Sue Vang and Andrew Vang, along with Monica Moua, allegedly sold over $38 million in stolen catalytic converters to DG Auto in New Jersey. They operated an unlicensed business out of their home in Sacramento, California, where they bought stolen catalytic converters from local thieves, prosecutors allege.
The operators of DG Auto, a company that buys catalytic converters, knowingly purchased stolen catalytic converters, extracted the precious metal powders and sold them to a metal refinery for over $545 million, prosecutors claim.
Other defendants in the case include Tyler James Curtis, who received over $13 million in wired funds from DG Auto for the shipment of catalytic converters, as well as another $500,000 from another company for catalytic converters, prosecutors said.
Defendant Adam G. Sharkey received over $45 million in wired funds from DG Auto, while defendant Martynas Macerauskas received over $6 million in payments from DG Auto, the DOJ said.
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Sad as it is, the best way to get in right away at the ER is to call an ambulance rather than bringing yourself there. You get a room right away.
You'd think. Sadly, I witnessed several people brought in via ambulance get carted right into the waiting room, placed in a wheelchair and left to wait like the rest of us.
All told, it was 11 hours before we were taken back only to be told almost immediately that she was being admitted. I got home at 2:30am. I'm sitting down on my couch and throwing some food down my gullet so I can go to bed.
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11 hours?! What a disgrace!
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The ER.
My wife is having more medical issues and spent last weekend in the hospital again. Answer was a shrug as to what was causing her heightened issues. Got an emergency appointment with a doctor today who told us to go back to the ER and she called ahead with exactly what to do. As I type this, we have been in the waiting room for 10 hours. Yes, 10 freaking hours. Still haven't been seen besides initial triage about 9 hours ago. A nurse changed my wife's oxygen tank for the third time who has been here the whole time we have. She was practically in tears apologizing to us. Not her fault. She yelled at her charge nurse to get us back but that seems to have failed.
County hospital? Down here you expect that at Parkland or Baylor (who handles overflow from Parkland), but the smaller hospitals tend to do better. Though I suppose you might have been limited to whichever hospital your doctor works with.
Hope everything turns out alright.
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The ER.
My wife is having more medical issues and spent last weekend in the hospital again. Answer was a shrug as to what was causing her heightened issues. Got an emergency appointment with a doctor today who told us to go back to the ER and she called ahead with exactly what to do. As I type this, we have been in the waiting room for 10 hours. Yes, 10 freaking hours. Still haven't been seen besides initial triage about 9 hours ago. A nurse changed my wife's oxygen tank for the third time who has been here the whole time we have. She was practically in tears apologizing to us. Not her fault. She yelled at her charge nurse to get us back but that seems to have failed.
County hospital? Down here you expect that at Parkland or Baylor (who handles overflow from Parkland), but the smaller hospitals tend to do better. Though I suppose you might have been limited to whichever hospital your doctor works with.
Hope everything turns out alright.
Nope, not a county hospital, only one that is a part of one of the biggest Healthcare companies in the Chicago area. It was crazy. Waiting room was already on overflow and ambulances just kept coming. The respiratory specialist that first saw my wife said the night before was even worse. Apparently they are being inundated with kids coming in with the double whammy of the flu and something called covid. Nice combo to be sick with there.
We're so sick of being in the hospital. It just sucks.
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The Boston Globe just wrote an article about it..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/eight-hour-waiting-times-patients-leaving-before-being-seen-mass-hospital-emergency-departments-are-beyond-the-brink/ar-AA13M95O?cvid=47531069c0af4180aab57b8b07579be7
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The Boston Globe just wrote an article about it..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/eight-hour-waiting-times-patients-leaving-before-being-seen-mass-hospital-emergency-departments-are-beyond-the-brink/ar-AA13M95O?cvid=47531069c0af4180aab57b8b07579be7
Sadly, that all sounds about right. HIPAA kind of went out the window. Like I said, ambulance gurneys being wheeled right into the waiting room. They had to open a hallway to stash all the overflow people. A guy and his kid sat down next to my wife and I and asked how long we had been there. At that point it was around 8 hours. He immediately got up and left. I saw numerous people come in and not even bother checking in after being told the wait time.
The whole system is breaking or already broken.
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Went to see WASP, MSG, and Armored Saint tonight. Fucking thing was massively oversold, so after MSG the fire marshal shut it all down. Seriously, what kind of idiot sells 2000 tickets to a 1200 seat venue? And 1200 is honestly about 600 more than that dump can reasonably accommodate. Most of those 1200 will be inside while the stage is outside.
Ironically, it was originally booked for a much larger venue, and they moved it to this shit-hole because they didn't think they'd sell it. And while we were all inside waiting to not see WASP they towed a shit-ton of cars out of the overflow parking lot. I guess I'm lucky I'm only out the ticket. After nearly 40 years of concert attendance, this is only the second time I've gotten burned on a concert ticket, and the first time was only 3 months ago.
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Jesus, that's a shitshow indeed.
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I'm too nice that I apparently fucked myself. Learned my lesson, I guess.
Former good friend and roommate was on my phone bill to save money, and he financed a phone on my account. After I moved out, he stopped paying me for his portion, so I (politely) told him he needed to transfer his line off my account. He did, but he didn't pay off the remaining $170 on his phone, which is now my responsibility. I'm working part time and going to school part time, and I have to miss a week of work because of covid. I don't know what I'm going to do to pay my fucking phone bill.
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Well that's a shit. Need a hand?
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Well that's a shit. Need a hand?
How do you mean?
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Well that's a shit. Need a hand?
How do you mean?
As in, do you need financial help?
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Well that's a shit. Need a hand?
How do you mean?
As in, do you need financial help?
I don't even know what to say - the generosity in this has me floored. I've always prided myself in being able to support myself, and it's always been extremely hard for me to accept help and to answer "yes" to a question like that. But at this point, it's looking closer to yeah. Yeah, I might.
It's a shit situation. The mix of the finances combined with someone who I thought was a friend fucking me over and then ghosting me. I feel gutted.
I
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We're working on a $5 million expansion at my work office which I get to manage. We are being held up by HVAC equipment. It was suppose to ship on Friday. Monday we get notice that it won't ship until January. I'm annoyed by the delay and we thankfully have a workaround. What I'm pissed about is that we were not inform until the day after it was supposed to ship that there would be a 2+ moth delay. The manufacturer had to have known this for weeks.
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I don't even know what to say - the generosity in this has me floored. I've always prided myself in being able to support myself, and it's always been extremely hard for me to accept help and to answer "yes" to a question like that. But at this point, it's looking closer to yeah. Yeah, I might.
If it becomes a firm "yes", then shoot me a PM. I'll see what I can do.
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I think today's piece about climate "activists" defacing or destroying historic and valuable works of art, is like the 4th or 5th time in a couple months. Their childish actions are impacting me in the opposite way they had hoped.
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You are less likely to pay attention to a climate catastrophe that will probably result in millions of excess deaths because someone threw some paint on a glass covering of a painting?
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I think today's piece about climate "activists" defacing or destroying historic and valuable works of art, is like the 4th or 5th time in a couple months. Their childish actions are impacting me in the opposite way they had hoped.
The only events I've heard of, haven't damage any works of art. In fact, that was one of Stop Oil's goals. Do you have a link to an article where actual damage is done?
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The downfall of the USPS continues. I had pre-ordered the new Threshold from Amazon and they kept pushing out the delivery date. I finally gave up on them early this week when they said the end of the month. I cancelled it and ordered it from Laser CD who had it in stock plus I picked up 2 other discs. Ken got it out to the USPS the next day like he always does. I watched my tracking for 5 days, nothing. Just said it was sitting in New Jersey. Finally tonight it arrived at a different post office but the state didn't make sense to me. Googled it and my package is now on the east coast of Puerto Rico! C'mon! I should have had it by now and who knows how long this will take now. Last I checked, Illinois was nowhere close to Puerto Rico. >:(
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The downfall of the USPS continues. I had pre-ordered the new Threshold from Amazon and they kept pushing out the delivery date. I finally gave up on them early this week when they said the end of the month. I cancelled it and ordered it from Laser CD who had it in stock plus I picked up 2 other discs. Ken got it out to the USPS the next day like he always does. I watched my tracking for 5 days, nothing. Just said it was sitting in New Jersey. Finally tonight it arrived at a different post office but the state didn't make sense to me. Googled it and my package is now on the east coast of Puerto Rico! C'mon! I should have had it by now and who knows how long this will take now. Last I checked, Illinois was nowhere close to Puerto Rico. >:(
Yup! I ordered Alice Cooper "Hey Stoopid" from Amazon. When Amazon delivers I always get it in 2 days being I have Prime, but it was transferred to USPS in Connecticut and I'm in NY. Its been over a week and all it says is Running Late, now it says your package may be lost. Amazon will send another but its the point that USPS is AWFUL! >:(
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Just beat Lego Lord of the Rings on my day off today, and I was excited to 100% it. Loaded it up and GOD DAMN IT. Save files were wiped.
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Got a letter from the IRS......should be all I need to say. Long story short......all the kerfuful of collecting unemployment, stimulus checks, child tax credits yadda yadda yadda during the summer of covid.....couple mis-entered numbers and boxes not checked results in us needing to cough up $4,600 >:( :censored :censored >:( :censored
Nice to know our government feels the need to come after me for that couple thousand as I sit and watch unfathomable levels of corruption just line the bank accounts of everyone in congress and these billionaires skate on paying anything. After an hour on the phone with an agent I 'get' that it's not like I don't owe this shit......I get it.....but the documents and paper work they provided us from that time period was confusing as all hell and I'm just pissed that this is coming out of nowhere....especially since we already had to pay last year for the first time ever and now this.
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Got a letter from the IRS......should be all I need to say. Long story short......all the kerfuful of collecting unemployment, stimulus checks, child tax credits yadda yadda yadda during the summer of covid.....couple mis-entered numbers and boxes not checked results in us needing to cough up $4,600 >:( :censored :censored >:( :censored
Nice to know our government feels the need to come after me for that couple thousand as I sit and watch unfathomable levels of corruption just line the bank accounts of everyone in congress and these billionaires skate on paying anything. After an hour on the phone with an agent I 'get' that it's not like I don't owe this shit......I get it.....but the documents and paper work they provided us from that time period was confusing as all hell and I'm just pissed that this is coming out of nowhere....especially since we already had to pay last year for the first time ever and now this.
Oh man. That blows!
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Got a letter from the IRS......should be all I need to say. Long story short......all the kerfuful of collecting unemployment, stimulus checks, child tax credits yadda yadda yadda during the summer of covid.....couple mis-entered numbers and boxes not checked results in us needing to cough up $4,600 >:( :censored :censored >:( :censored
Nice to know our government feels the need to come after me for that couple thousand as I sit and watch unfathomable levels of corruption just line the bank accounts of everyone in congress and these billionaires skate on paying anything. After an hour on the phone with an agent I 'get' that it's not like I don't owe this shit......I get it.....but the documents and paper work they provided us from that time period was confusing as all hell and I'm just pissed that this is coming out of nowhere....especially since we already had to pay last year for the first time ever and now this.
Oh man. That blows!
And sucks!
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Eh, you got the use of their money for a couple years. I'd call that a win.
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Eh, you got the use of their money for a couple years. I'd call that a win.
Yeah, when the gov't (or my company) makes an error in my favour, then comes to collect, I try to think of it as an interest-free loan.
But it still sucks.
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I assume the IRS can organise some kind of payment plan or is it all up-front cost? Because that ain't a small chunk of change to suddenly owe.
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Bottom line - it's become far too complicated to do our taxes. If you were to give a semi-detailed return with multiple forms needed to 25 different CPA's, you would probably get 12 different results. And forget about using Free Tax USA or some other do it yourself software.
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I assume the IRS can organise some kind of payment plan or is it all up-front cost? Because that ain't a small chunk of change to suddenly owe.
You can do payment plans. They're not the monsters that some (in politics and out) make them out to be.
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As someone who learned the hard way about paying taxes on investments you can set up payment plans and they are actually very flexible. As stads said they are reasonable and most people get into deep shit by ignoring the problem.
That said it does piss me off that we have to essentially guess what we owe at the end of the year when the IRS knows. I remember reading a story that California wanted to change the laws around that in which intuit lobbied against it but that's a discussion for another time and thread.
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Bottom line - it's become far too complicated to do our taxes. If you were to give a semi-detailed return with multiple forms needed to 25 different CPA's, you would probably get 12 different results. And forget about using Free Tax USA or some other do it yourself software.
Well, DOING them is easy - Turbo Tax is basic - but OPTIMIZING them is difficult. I've done my own taxes for the better part of three decades now, and even going through a divorce, having a rental property, having a personal business...
But this ought to be remembered when talking about taxes on the national level; I got a great kick out of the last six or seven years and the discussions about Trump's tax returns. It's a joke how so many (supposedly smart) people don't have the first clue about a tax return (and I'm convinced, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that most of that discussion was NOT about Trump's financials, but rather about just being childish and tweaking someone that a significant plurality of Americans don't like and actively want to see fail).
I laughed out loud when Trump's first tax returns came out and the uproar started. Someone wrote "it doesn't look like he donated his salary like he claimed!" and anyone who has even GLANCED at a tax return should know that it's far more complicated than that; it depends on a host of factors, not least of which who he donated to. I give modest donations each year (my mother-in-law used to work for a charity in our home town, so old clothes and furniture went there first) and you wouldn't necessarily know that just from the tax return.
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I assume the IRS can organise some kind of payment plan or is it all up-front cost? Because that ain't a small chunk of change to suddenly owe.
You can do payment plans. They're not the monsters that some (in politics and out) make them out to be.
Yep....there are payment plans. But as XJDenton says.....that was a nice little swift kick to the nuts out of nowhere! :omg:
Bottom line - it's become far too complicated to do our taxes.
I've done ours for 17 years now and this was the first issue and honestly, it was my error. The paperwork they sent us was confusing and I just didn't give it the proper attention and 'assumed' I knew what I was doing. It F'n sucks but I'm over it now. Now just evaluating what method I want to use in paying this back.
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Got a letter from the IRS......should be all I need to say. Long story short......all the kerfuful of collecting unemployment, stimulus checks, child tax credits yadda yadda yadda during the summer of covid.....couple mis-entered numbers and boxes not checked results in us needing to cough up $4,600 >:( :censored :censored >:( :censored
Nice to know our government feels the need to come after me for that couple thousand as I sit and watch unfathomable levels of corruption just line the bank accounts of everyone in congress and these billionaires skate on paying anything. After an hour on the phone with an agent I 'get' that it's not like I don't owe this shit......I get it.....but the documents and paper work they provided us from that time period was confusing as all hell and I'm just pissed that this is coming out of nowhere....especially since we already had to pay last year for the first time ever and now this.
Don't just assume what they're reporting is accurate. When I got one of those a couple of years ago I handed it off to a friend who's good with this sort of thing. He decided that they were in error and sent along a letter explaining it to them. I have no idea if he was actually right, or if they were content to just settle, but it went from about $1500 down to a buck-eighty or so. Even if they are right it's possible a convincing argument to the contrary might be enough for them to make it want to go away--what with them being so shorthanded and backlogged and whatnot.
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Got a letter from the IRS......should be all I need to say. Long story short......all the kerfuful of collecting unemployment, stimulus checks, child tax credits yadda yadda yadda during the summer of covid.....couple mis-entered numbers and boxes not checked results in us needing to cough up $4,600 >:( :censored :censored >:( :censored
Nice to know our government feels the need to come after me for that couple thousand as I sit and watch unfathomable levels of corruption just line the bank accounts of everyone in congress and these billionaires skate on paying anything. After an hour on the phone with an agent I 'get' that it's not like I don't owe this shit......I get it.....but the documents and paper work they provided us from that time period was confusing as all hell and I'm just pissed that this is coming out of nowhere....especially since we already had to pay last year for the first time ever and now this.
Don't just assume what they're reporting is accurate. When I got one of those a couple of years ago I handed it off to a friend who's good with this sort of thing. He decided that they were in error and sent along a letter explaining it to them. I have no idea if he was actually right, or if they were content to just settle, but it went from about $1500 down to a buck-eighty or so. Even if they are right it's possible a convincing argument to the contrary might be enough for them to make it want to go away--what with them being so shorthanded and backlogged and whatnot.
I was going to say this as well. Don't just assume the IRS is correct. Double check it and push back if they're not.
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Got a letter from the IRS......should be all I need to say. Long story short......all the kerfuful of collecting unemployment, stimulus checks, child tax credits yadda yadda yadda during the summer of covid.....couple mis-entered numbers and boxes not checked results in us needing to cough up $4,600 >:( :censored :censored >:( :censored
Nice to know our government feels the need to come after me for that couple thousand as I sit and watch unfathomable levels of corruption just line the bank accounts of everyone in congress and these billionaires skate on paying anything. After an hour on the phone with an agent I 'get' that it's not like I don't owe this shit......I get it.....but the documents and paper work they provided us from that time period was confusing as all hell and I'm just pissed that this is coming out of nowhere....especially since we already had to pay last year for the first time ever and now this.
Don't just assume what they're reporting is accurate. When I got one of those a couple of years ago I handed it off to a friend who's good with this sort of thing. He decided that they were in error and sent along a letter explaining it to them. I have no idea if he was actually right, or if they were content to just settle, but it went from about $1500 down to a buck-eighty or so. Even if they are right it's possible a convincing argument to the contrary might be enough for them to make it want to go away--what with them being so shorthanded and backlogged and whatnot.
I was going to say this as well. Don't just assume the IRS is correct. Double check it and push back if they're not.
A good friend of mine passed his CPA's info along to me and I'm going to set up an appointment with her to review all of this just to be sure.....as you guys have stated.
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I can name a lot of things that are wrong with this country. If a for'ner asked me I wouldn't know where to start. One of the things that best exemplifies why I hate this place, though, is leaf blowers. Fuck those things. If God were real and actually cared about us he'd make it so that every single one of them carried a 1 in 5 chance of a fatal electrocution every time it started up. Think about it. They exist simply to dump our own problems onto somebody else. They blow leaves into the street, where they'll eventually wind up as somebody else's problem. That way we don't actually have to rake them up. They're ridiculously loud and obnoxious. For 12 hours a day you can't walk outside without hearing one somewhere. They kick up massive amounts of dirt and dust. I think the only people who actually want them around are allergists and car wash owners. How many times a week do you drive through a cloud of dirt because of one of those things? It's a combination of entitlement. Seriously, fuck those things.
I'd say that the only thing good about them is that they'll probably render everybody who uses them deaf and unable to breathe a few years down the road, but I honestly doubt that the Mexicans wielding them actually want to be doing what they are. Shame to punish the people just trying to survive.
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Can't say I've ever experienced such a dislike of leaf blowers, but the blowing of one leafs to another's property is pretty shitty. I'm just happy I have one tree on my yard and it doesn't create much leafs at all so maybe that's why blowers aren't a big issue in my life. I do have a blower though, I use it a couple times a year just to clear off my patio of whatever outdoor debris gets on it over the winter when I start to use my patio more when the weather turns nicer.
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Can't say I've ever experienced such a dislike of leaf blowers, but the blowing of one leafs to another's property is pretty shitty. I'm just happy I have one tree on my yard and it doesn't create much leafs at all so maybe that's why blowers aren't a big issue in my life. I do have a blower though, I use it a couple times a year just to clear off my patio of whatever outdoor debris gets on it over the winter when I start to use my patio more when the weather turns nicer.
It probably has to do with the density of housing here. Seriously, between 0800 and 1700 there is a landscaping crew on every block. Half dealing with houses and the other half working for apartment complexes. They're absolutely ubiquitous.
Oh, and another reason I want them all dead: No matter what day I have off from work it seems that's the day the landscapers come to deal with my apartment. If they normally come on Wednesdays and I take Friday off, that's the day they have to do a makeup because it rained Wednesday. Right outside my fucking window.
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I get that. I have staff members all the time asking me to get a leaf blower for the venues. I say fuck that, we have dustpan and brooms on site.
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I can name a lot of things that are wrong with this country. If a for'ner asked me I wouldn't know where to start. One of the things that best exemplifies why I hate this place, though, is leaf blowers. Fuck those things. If God were real and actually cared about us he'd make it so that every single one of them carried a 1 in 5 chance of a fatal electrocution every time it started up. Think about it. They exist simply to dump our own problems onto somebody else. They blow leaves into the street, where they'll eventually wind up as somebody else's problem. That way we don't actually have to rake them up. They're ridiculously loud and obnoxious. For 12 hours a day you can't walk outside without hearing one somewhere. They kick up massive amounts of dirt and dust. I think the only people who actually want them around are allergists and car wash owners. How many times a week do you drive through a cloud of dirt because of one of those things? It's a combination of entitlement. Seriously, fuck those things.
I'd say that the only thing good about them is that they'll probably render everybody who uses them deaf and unable to breathe a few years down the road, but I honestly doubt that the Mexicans wielding them actually want to be doing what they are. Shame to punish the people just trying to survive.
Funny thing? The guy across the street from me at my old house used to use his to dry his car after he washed them; that was baffling to me. You're basically sand-blasting your car!
Ten acres, man. I don't use mine very often, and when I do, I use it like Marc does (to clean patios and whatnot). The best benefit to where I am is the stars - I have the best view of the planets; me and my two kids literally just stood in my driveway over break clouting the planets. But second best is, I don't have to hear landscapers! I don't share your hatred of leaf blowers, but I do share your hatred of landscapers. They are like ants or locusts that swarm a property and then move to the next one.
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I can name a lot of things that are wrong with this country. If a for'ner asked me I wouldn't know where to start. One of the things that best exemplifies why I hate this place, though, is leaf blowers. Fuck those things. If God were real and actually cared about us he'd make it so that every single one of them carried a 1 in 5 chance of a fatal electrocution every time it started up. Think about it. They exist simply to dump our own problems onto somebody else. They blow leaves into the street, where they'll eventually wind up as somebody else's problem. That way we don't actually have to rake them up. They're ridiculously loud and obnoxious. For 12 hours a day you can't walk outside without hearing one somewhere. They kick up massive amounts of dirt and dust. I think the only people who actually want them around are allergists and car wash owners. How many times a week do you drive through a cloud of dirt because of one of those things? It's a combination of entitlement. Seriously, fuck those things.
I'd say that the only thing good about them is that they'll probably render everybody who uses them deaf and unable to breathe a few years down the road, but I honestly doubt that the Mexicans wielding them actually want to be doing what they are. Shame to punish the people just trying to survive.
This is what I have been saying in my head since moving into my apartment. I live by the office, so maintenance starts blowing the leaves first thing when they arrive to work at 7 in the morning. >:(
And to add to this, the apartment complex has trees where there shouldn't be trees and now they are having issues with the roots going into the water pipes, which is what caused the sprinkler system to leak water. They had to call a company to dig right by my downstairs neighbors patio part where the tree was. There were quite a few of us wondering why they planted a tree there anyways. :facepalm:
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My fucking mother in law! >:( :censored
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Well, I've never been married so I kind of eliminated that problem. :lol
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My fucking mother in law! >:( :censored
The stories I could tell you....
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My fucking mother in law! >:( :censored
The stories I could tell you....
Ditto
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My fucking mother in law! >:( :censored
The stories I could tell you....
Ditto
I'd have meaningful contributions as well...
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Let's start.
I worked a 14 1/2 hour workday. Then drove to Boston to pick up the engagement ring. I drove home and passed my old work place to show my future mother in law.
She was not there because her son was sick. The 2 managers, who were married saw it. The next day they told her I stopped by to show her but she wasn't there. They told her the ring was beautiful.
As it came close to our 3 year anniversary, my future mother in law told Lisa I had the ring. I was so fucking pissed. Thankfully when I proposed, I faked her out. My wife is gullible. Lol
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I can't really contribute to the MIL bitching because mine died 24 years ago.
But man there is almost nothing I hate more than my boss asking me the same damn questions over and over. Write it the fuck down already - jeeze ::)
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A meeting was set up to see the nurse practitioner about dad's future and the main one for this hospital is on vacation. Her back up is from the hospital a town over and was a no show.
My brother and I sat there for 2 hours waiting.
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A meeting was set up to see the nurse practitioner about dad's future and the main one for this hospital is on vacation. Her back up is from the hospital a town over and was a no show.
My brother and I sat there for 2 hours waiting.
Man, how incompetent is the hospital where they don't even know that their employer is on vacation. And then, they probably suddenly just called the backup and she didn't show up because of the short notice and was likely helping others. Unless, she was on vacation too and they didn't know either.
I'm just wondering because, why schedule a meeting if you know that person is not going to be in that day?
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To add insult to an injury, the back up was the one who scheduled it for today.
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To add insult to an injury, the back up was the one who scheduled it for today.
Mutha fucka
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She finally called my brother, (Why not do that from the start) and we heard what we know. He MS is as last stage. He probably has been asperating for a while slightly and we just didn't notice. So if he gets a tracheotomy, he can live in 2 homes. If he is at stage 3, he doesn't need help with breathing and can live in an assisted home in a town 45 minutes from me. 15 minutes from my brother. If it's stage 4 he will have to live 1 hour and 30 minutes away in Worcester, Ma. He'll always need a feeding tube and my never each again.
No a way to live but we are hoping to talk to him about it. This is all contingent to him clearing his chest from the mucus that he got from pneumonia and MRSA.
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heartbreaking, Joe. Sometimes there are no good options, but that's cold comfort when talking about someone you love and no doubt deserves better. My heart is with you and your family.
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Thank you Bill. I'm having a hard time even focusing thinking of my Dad today.
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Thank you Bill. I'm having a hard time even focusing thinking of my Dad today.
I'm actually in tears here, bud, because I've been there. I wish I could tell you it gets better, but... :heart
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A meeting was set up to see the nurse practitioner about dad's future and the main one for this hospital is on vacation. Her back up is from the hospital a town over and was a no show.
My brother and I sat there for 2 hours waiting.
Before they'd approve me for a kidney transplant the head of the department said I needed to meet with the resident shrink. Amazingly, it was my prescription for Xanax that concerned them, rather than my pat history of drug use. Go figure. I showed up at the transplant center for my 1300 appointment, and was told he wasn't available just yet. About 1315 I hear the receptionist on the phone "he's here already. Yes. He's waiting here in the lobby. Yeah." About 1345 a car comes screeching into the parking lot. It stops right in front and the driver jumps out and walks through the door in a swift but deliberately dignified manner. Hot chick in the passenger seat walks around and drives off. Five minutes later "the doctor will see you now." This was on a Monday and the guy was clearly hungover as shit. He hadn't shaved. He was disheveled. He had no idea what his meeting with me was about. It was pretty clear that he'd spent the whole weekend shacked up and partying, and probably didn't even realize it was Monday. And this is the guy who's supposed to evaluate my behaviour for high risk factors. :lol
He threw a MMPI at me, told me to have a nice day, and that was the last I ever heard about any of it.
Hope things turn out for the best with your old man.
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To add insult to an injury, the back up was the one who scheduled it for today.
Mutha fucka
Makes me think of the movie 48 Hours after Reggie and Cates fought he looks in the mirror and says "Mutha Fucka!!!"
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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To add insult to an injury, the back up was the one who scheduled it for today.
Mutha fucka
Makes me think of the movie 48 Hours after Reggie and Cates fought he looks in the mirror and says "Mutha Fucka!!!"
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Pretty sure he lost a toofer in that fight. Excellent move, and one helluva a good fight scene. :tup
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I haven't seen that move in decades.
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I hate to hear all this, Joe. How truly awful. :( :(
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I hate to hear all this, Joe. How truly awful. :( :(
Thank you Kev. My head is killing me tonight. I'll guess it's stress related.
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Social media anti-vaxxers. Seems every death or medical issue these days is all because of the vaccine. Damar Hamlin - vaccine, Lisa Marie Presley - vaccine.
The only good thing is it gives me a large swath of people to block on Twitter.
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No joke, I just sent lonestar & jingle.boy a picture of local people I knew who blamed it. It's the new pandemic.
Stupidity.
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I haven't seen that move in decades.
A true classic! I just saw your post, I didn't mean to make a comedy movie joke in the midst of what you're going through. I'm truly sorry you and your family are going through all of that. Its AWFUL! Sending love and strength your way. :heart
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No worry! I need a diversion!
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A meeting was set up to see the nurse practitioner about dad's future and the main one for this hospital is on vacation. Her back up is from the hospital a town over and was a no show.
My brother and I sat there for 2 hours waiting.
Joe, I'm back online here.
This is infuriating. It really is unacceptable. This could've been two hours that you spent with your father. There should be some way to make a complaint. I know you have more important things to tend to, but I'm pissed off just reading this.
She finally called my brother, (Why not do that from the start) and we heard what we know. He MS is as last stage. He probably has been asperating for a while slightly and we just didn't notice. So if he gets a tracheotomy, he can live in 2 homes. If he is at stage 3, he doesn't need help with breathing and can live in an assisted home in a town 45 minutes from me. 15 minutes from my brother. If it's stage 4 he will have to live 1 hour and 30 minutes away in Worcester, Ma. He'll always need a feeding tube and my never each again.
No a way to live but we are hoping to talk to him about it. This is all contingent to him clearing his chest from the mucus that he got from pneumonia and MRSA.
That's brutal Joe. I really feel for you in this difficult time.
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Thanks Tim. Doctor wants to talk to us Saturday. It sounds like dad will never be able to breath on his own. This is devastating news.
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Thanks Tim. Doctor wants to talk to us Saturday. It sounds like dad will never be able to breath on his own. This is devastating news.
That sucks. Very sorry to hear that.
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Thanks Tim. Doctor wants to talk to us Saturday. It sounds like dad will never be able to breath on his own. This is devastating news.
Very sorry to hear this, hope he's not in much pain.
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Thanks Tim. Doctor wants to talk to us Saturday. It sounds like dad will never be able to breath on his own. This is devastating news.
It happens fast, and it blows.
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Thanks guys. A month and 1/2 ago I took him out for seafood for lunch. I'm dreading Saturday. I even have to go to church for a celebration of life for my cousin's wife who passed away from brain cancer. Her broth was Gary Hoey. Going to be a tough day for sure.
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Thanks Tim. Doctor wants to talk to us Saturday. It sounds like dad will never be able to breath on his own. This is devastating news.
Devastating indeed. Sorry for you and your father. I can't imagine how tough this is going to be.
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So sorry Joe...all my love to all of you. You know where I am if you need anything.
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:heart :heart :heart
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Love you buddy, sorry you're having to go through this.
As someone who has worked in nursing homes and with elderly people in bad shape, I can say for sure that I'm glad he's got a son like you being there with him.
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Thoughts and love to you Joe.
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That's a tough scenario for you and your family Joe.....very sorry to hear this :'(
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It's worse. My dad will not get stronger, will never be able to eat or drink again. Probably never talk again as well. It's no way to live.
We will try to talk to him the beginning of next week and see if he can understand us.
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Ugh.
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Frick.
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Thinking about you and your family.
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Fucking hell mate. :(
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Goddamit, man. That's just fucking awful.
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Damn, King. That’s awful. So sorry you, and your dad for that matter, are suffering through this. :(
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That's terrible King I'm sorry!
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Well, this doesn't piss me off, but we are going through a similar thing right now. My wife's Father has dementia and has pretty much shut down. He was put on hospice care yesterday. They are essentially managing his pain until he dies.
Right after my wife went through a week of hell with her own health problems where she was laid up in bed for a full week along with 2 ER visits. Just really sucks. She lost her Mom last year and now is about to lose her Dad.
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That's a lot on her plate. Just awful.
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Thanks Tim. Doctor wants to talk to us Saturday. It sounds like dad will never be able to breath on his own. This is devastating news.
It happens fast, and it blows.
Word on that.
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I’m so sorry to hear about what’s going on with your dad, king. And the added drama surely doesn’t help. I feel for everything you’re going through. :'(
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My thoughts are with you guys. Seeing people you love deteriorate is the worst. I am dreading going through that with my parents and in-laws, who I genuinely love. They're all getting into their 70s now and it's clear they're slowing down a little. It sucks that I'm at the busiest time of life with work and kids, but I know I need to spend as much quality time with them as possible.
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I am very sorry for what you're going through, King and ProfessorPeart. That's the part I dread for when that day comes for my father. I hope that the processes go smoother than what you all have been dealing with so far.
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The company I work for announced layoffs are coming soon. Not surprising and I was told this has no impact on me. I believe that. But also today I was told that the company is very close to locking up a huge deal that's going to drive a ton of business... and my team has to start building this, but we don't have the man power. I asked my boss why can't 1 or 2 of the thousands being let go join our team. He laughed. But seriously, who is planning this? My team desperately needs more people. :facepalm:
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Having to go into work when I have a nice wall office and covered parking at home. What a pain in the ass. Well, I guess it gets me outta the house once in a while. :lol Nothing to be pissed about really, just annoying and inconvenient. :dunno:
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Getting a $200 Natural Gas bill....when historically even in the cold months the most I've paid was maybe tops $120ish? And that was tops.
Not intending to turn this into a P/R deal but this confused ass, space out puppet of a President and the agenda he's the face of can go F%ck right off. For those that'll say it's more nuanced than that....when the mean orange guy was in office my 401k was skyrocketing and my cost of living was great. With dementia man it's the totally opposite of the spectrum.
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Getting a $200 Natural Gas bill....when historically even in the cold months the most I've paid was maybe tops $120ish? And that was tops.
Not intending to turn this into a P/R deal but this confused ass, space out puppet of a President and the agenda he's the face of can go F%ck right off. For those that'll say it's more nuanced than that....when the mean orange guy was in office my 401k was skyrocketing and my cost of living was great. With dementia man it's the totally opposite of the spectrum.
I paid $483 for oil 2 weeks ago, they came back yesterday and a new bill of $465. Not even 100 gallons used each time. Ugh.
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Getting a $200 Natural Gas bill....when historically even in the cold months the most I've paid was maybe tops $120ish? And that was tops.
Not intending to turn this into a P/R deal but this confused ass, space out puppet of a President and the agenda he's the face of can go F%ck right off. For those that'll say it's more nuanced than that....when the mean orange guy was in office my 401k was skyrocketing and my cost of living was great. With dementia man it's the totally opposite of the spectrum.
I paid $483 for oil 2 weeks ago, they came back yesterday and a new bill of $465. Not even 100 gallons used each time. Ugh.
Next we could speak about how when the guy that hurt people's feelings was running things we were spending $250 a week for groceries......our trip last night was $600. Big shout out to the party that has voter harvesting down to a science....thanks y'all :tup
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Yeah, my heating costs have gone way up this year and of course groceries.
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So has my collection of egg memes. :lol
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Getting a $200 Natural Gas bill....when historically even in the cold months the most I've paid was maybe tops $120ish? And that was tops.
Not intending to turn this into a P/R deal but this confused ass, space out puppet of a President and the agenda he's the face of can go F%ck right off. For those that'll say it's more nuanced than that....when the mean orange guy was in office my 401k was skyrocketing and my cost of living was great. With dementia man it's the totally opposite of the spectrum.
C'mon Gary... you're smart enough to realize that it isn't your POTUS that sets global supply/demand issues around resources, or dictates global economic conditions. Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
To use a Stadler colloquialism, 'be better' than to just toss the blame to the politicians you aren't in sync with. And the name calling ... Stadler hates that.
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Getting a $200 Natural Gas bill....when historically even in the cold months the most I've paid was maybe tops $120ish? And that was tops.
Not intending to turn this into a P/R deal but this confused ass, space out puppet of a President and the agenda he's the face of can go F%ck right off. For those that'll say it's more nuanced than that....when the mean orange guy was in office my 401k was skyrocketing and my cost of living was great. With dementia man it's the totally opposite of the spectrum.
C'mon Gary... you're smart enough to realize that it isn't your POTUS that sets global supply/demand issues around resources, or dictates global economic conditions. Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
To use a Stadler colloquialism, 'be better' than to just toss the blame to the politicians you aren't in sync with. And the name calling ... Stadler hates that.
I know....I'm generalizing because I'm in a horrible mood this morning that started with the grocery bill last night then getting the notification on the gas bill price.....throw this recent IRS crap that we're facing and I've about had it with our fucking 'leadership' in this country....both (R) and (D) Just incredibly pissed right now and it's way simpler to do.
I'll save my comments on Dementia Man.....might as well give him a free pass to stay in tune with the rest of the media.
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Atta boy! Spread the hate.
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Atta boy! Spread the hate.
(https://media.tenor.com/Q5JDMVaLgbMAAAAC/let-the-hate-flow-through-you-your-hate-has-made-you-powerful.gif)
:lol I am feeling pretty Sith like this morning.
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Are you at home Gary with your robe on? :lol
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Getting a $200 Natural Gas bill....when historically even in the cold months the most I've paid was maybe tops $120ish? And that was tops.
Not intending to turn this into a P/R deal but this confused ass, space out puppet of a President and the agenda he's the face of can go F%ck right off. For those that'll say it's more nuanced than that....when the mean orange guy was in office my 401k was skyrocketing and my cost of living was great. With dementia man it's the totally opposite of the spectrum.
C'mon Gary... you're smart enough to realize that it isn't your POTUS that sets global supply/demand issues around resources, or dictates global economic conditions. Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
To use a Stadler colloquialism, 'be better' than to just toss the blame to the politicians you aren't in sync with. And the name calling ... Stadler hates that.
Please; we're going to pound on Gary for venting and there's 1,000,000 tweets every minute about "MAGA THIS" and "MAGA THAT". :) :) :) :)
In all seriousness, though, while the idea that the "president controls this" is nonsense, there is one element that we're seeing more and more and that is "consumer confidence". I don't JUST mean consumers like you and me, I mean the money that flows in the market. There IS some truth to the notion that the President sets the tone. And it's unassailable that the liberal tone is one of anti-corporatism. I've written numerous times that the crash in 2008 was bad, but could have been less bad without the ACA (which mean a possible higher price tag for corporations), the commitment for environmental justice (which almost always means a higher price tag for corporations) and the commitment to climate change (which ALWAYS means a higher price tag for corporations). However you slice it, "higher price tag for corporations" means two things: one, lower profits, which means more tempered stock prices, and two, higher prices for consumers like you and me.
Trump, for better or worse, WAS indirectly responsible for our stock prices doing so well. The market knew that whether Trump was acting with integrity or not, he served to benefit from a higher stock market and his administration would do nothing to interfere with that. Relaxed standards, relaxed regulations, all serve to increase future profitability, which is the single biggest decider of stock prices. With Biden, rightly or wrongly, that certainty isn't there, and stock prices are more tempered.
Now, whether a rising stock market is worth all that is a wholly different question. I personally would trade a more measured stock market for reduced divisiveness, myself. We're not seeing that, so we have the worst of both worlds, but a girl can dream.
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Getting a $200 Natural Gas bill....when historically even in the cold months the most I've paid was maybe tops $120ish? And that was tops.
Not intending to turn this into a P/R deal but this confused ass, space out puppet of a President and the agenda he's the face of can go F%ck right off. For those that'll say it's more nuanced than that....when the mean orange guy was in office my 401k was skyrocketing and my cost of living was great. With dementia man it's the totally opposite of the spectrum.
C'mon Gary... you're smart enough to realize that it isn't your POTUS that sets global supply/demand issues around resources, or dictates global economic conditions. Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
Did "dementia man" have a say in the increases I'm seeing?
To use a Stadler colloquialism, 'be better' than to just toss the blame to the politicians you aren't in sync with. And the name calling ... Stadler hates that.
Please; we're going to pound on Gary for venting and there's 1,000,000 tweets every minute about "MAGA THIS" and "MAGA THAT". :) :) :) :)
In all seriousness, though, while the idea that the "president controls this" is nonsense, there is one element that we're seeing more and more and that is "consumer confidence". I don't JUST mean consumers like you and me, I mean the money that flows in the market. There IS some truth to the notion that the President sets the tone. And it's unassailable that the liberal tone is one of anti-corporatism. I've written numerous times that the crash in 2008 was bad, but could have been less bad without the ACA (which mean a possible higher price tag for corporations), the commitment for environmental justice (which almost always means a higher price tag for corporations) and the commitment to climate change (which ALWAYS means a higher price tag for corporations). However you slice it, "higher price tag for corporations" means two things: one, lower profits, which means more tempered stock prices, and two, higher prices for consumers like you and me.
Trump, for better or worse, WAS indirectly responsible for our stock prices doing so well. The market knew that whether Trump was acting with integrity or not, he served to benefit from a higher stock market and his administration would do nothing to interfere with that. Relaxed standards, relaxed regulations, all serve to increase future profitability, which is the single biggest decider of stock prices. With Biden, rightly or wrongly, that certainty isn't there, and stock prices are more tempered.
Now, whether a rising stock market is worth all that is a wholly different question. I personally would trade a more measured stock market for reduced divisiveness, myself. We're not seeing that, so we have the worst of both worlds, but a girl can dream.
Another knock against capitalism, honestly.
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I was pounding on you more than Gary. :lol :lol
But seriously... for all the times you've railed on me, lonestar, Harmony, XE and others for our "clever quips", I didn't think it unfair in this case. Gary's my bro, he knows I'm not pounding on him with any significant measure of sincerity.
You make some valid and reasonable points, but I would argue POTUS is but one small ingredient in the bigger recipe. It has all the impact that a pinch of salt does in a cake. It's not like the lemon in a lemon meringue pie.
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I see you're bringing in RJ to assist. :lol
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I see you're bringing in RJ to assist. :lol
Chef ain't no baker.
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Gary, if it makes you feel any better, my natural gas and electric bills came to $554 this month combined, and my weed tents aren't even running!
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I see you're bringing in RJ to assist. :lol
Chef ain't no baker.
We know he eats them. LOL
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Gary, if it makes you feel any better, my natural gas and electric bills came to $554 this month combined, and my weed tents aren't even running!
Son of a…….. :omg:
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Gary, if it makes you feel any better, my natural gas and electric bills came to $554 this month combined, and my weed tents aren't even running!
Son of a…….. :omg:
Mine were just under $500 (CAD mind you) last month. Just yesterday, I signed the quote to get solar panels installed in the spring.
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I was pounding on you more than Gary. :lol :lol
But seriously... for all the times you've railed on me, lonestar, Harmony, XE and others for our "clever quips", I didn't think it unfair in this case. Gary's my bro, he knows I'm not pounding on him with any significant measure of sincerity.
You make some valid and reasonable points, but I would argue POTUS is but one small ingredient in the bigger recipe. It has all the impact that a pinch of salt does in a cake. It's not like the lemon in a lemon meringue pie.
There were four smiley's for a reason.
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I was pounding on you more than Gary. :lol :lol
But seriously... for all the times you've railed on me, lonestar, Harmony, XE and others for our "clever quips", I didn't think it unfair in this case. Gary's my bro, he knows I'm not pounding on him with any significant measure of sincerity.
You make some valid and reasonable points, but I would argue POTUS is but one small ingredient in the bigger recipe. It has all the impact that a pinch of salt does in a cake. It's not like the lemon in a lemon meringue pie.
There were four smiley's for a reason.
I gathered. We good (I hope/assume).
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Gary, if it makes you feel any better, my natural gas and electric bills came to $554 this month combined, and my weed tents aren't even running!
Son of a…….. :omg:
Mine were just under $500 (CAD mind you) last month. Just yesterday, I signed the quote to get solar panels installed in the spring.
You going to have the battery system at your house as well to be fully free and clear from an electricity provider?
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Gary, if it makes you feel any better, my natural gas and electric bills came to $554 this month combined, and my weed tents aren't even running!
Son of a…….. :omg:
Mine were just under $500 (CAD mind you) last month. Just yesterday, I signed the quote to get solar panels installed in the spring.
You going to have the battery system at your house as well to be fully free and clear from an electricity provider?
No... with the amount of sunlight available in the winter (or lacktherof), it doesn't make sense to go fully off the grid. It's really only suited to people that are in the middle of nowhere with unreliable utility coverage. The goal is to produce just off enough to drive our annual consumption from the utility as close to zero as possible.
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Geez, my last few monthly electric bills have been $48/$41/$49 and gas has been $118/$40/$28/$25. A rate increase and the holidays account for that most recent $118 bill.
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Gary, if it makes you feel any better, my natural gas and electric bills came to $554 this month combined, and my weed tents aren't even running!
Son of a…….. :omg:
Mine were just under $500 (CAD mind you) last month. Just yesterday, I signed the quote to get solar panels installed in the spring.
You going to have the battery system at your house as well to be fully free and clear from an electricity provider?
I put solar on this fall, and flipped the switch about a week and a half ago. I have yet to get any data on how it's working, but this is the worst time for sun production for me.
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We were going to do solar a few years back....signed the paper work and everything. I ended up bailing on it a day later. I kind of wish we'd just stuck it out but the only thing was we weren't buying the home battery system....we'd have just been 'selling' the excess power to the electric company. We've thought about looking into it again but at the moment we have more pressing needs.....on top of everything I've bitched about the past couple weeks our close to 9 year old builder grade windows are in dire need of being replaced....so....that's on the list now as well. :(
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Ooof. My parents recently replaced all the windows on their 30 year old house, 18 I think. That was a doozy of a bill.
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Ooof. My parents recently replaced all the windows on their 30 year old house, 18 I think. That was a doozy of a bill.
Yeah.....it became real noticeable here the past month or so with the really low temps. Cold air just a flowin' through. Like I said, their the contractor grade windows from when we built in 2014 so they weren't exactly meant to last. Been kicking this can down the road for a few years now.
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Ooof. My parents recently replaced all the windows on their 30 year old house, 18 I think. That was a doozy of a bill.
5 years ago, I had 12 windows replaced in my prior house. They were all double hung, but of very good quality. The total cost was $8,000 to $9,000.
This past fall, I had 17 windows replaced in my new house with the same company (Feldco). 3 were sliders, and one was an awning window - the other 13 were double hungs. The total cost was over $17,000.
I get inflation, but nearly double the cost for an extra five windows (granted, one was a specialty (awning) window, and some were larger sizes) - it seemed like it was way too much money. But we like the window manufacturer and the old, original windows in this house were in awful shape. Still makes my stomach turn when I think about the cost though.
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Ooof. My parents recently replaced all the windows on their 30 year old house, 18 I think. That was a doozy of a bill.
5 years ago, I had 12 windows replaced in my prior house. They were all double hung, but of very good quality. The total cost was $8,000 to $9,000.
This past fall, I had 17 windows replaced in my new house with the same company (Feldco). 3 were sliders, and one was an awning window - the other 13 were double hungs. The total cost was over $17,000.
I get inflation, but nearly double the cost for an extra five windows (granted, one was a specialty (awning) window, and some were larger sizes) - it seemed like it was way too much money. But we like the window manufacturer and the old, original windows in this house were in awful shape. Still makes my stomach turn when I think about the cost though.
:omg:
Welp.....looks like this window ordeal will be kicked down the road a little further. Not going to cough up this type of cash right now. I hadn't/haven't investigated costs or anything yet....but, if it's in this ballpark we can deal with a little draft every now and then.
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My parents' house ran them something like $25K, but they had a lot of sill rot around a lot of them on the shady side of the house. It was a bunch of added work.
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Ooof. My parents recently replaced all the windows on their 30 year old house, 18 I think. That was a doozy of a bill.
5 years ago, I had 12 windows replaced in my prior house. They were all double hung, but of very good quality. The total cost was $8,000 to $9,000.
This past fall, I had 17 windows replaced in my new house with the same company (Feldco). 3 were sliders, and one was an awning window - the other 13 were double hungs. The total cost was over $17,000.
I get inflation, but nearly double the cost for an extra five windows (granted, one was a specialty (awning) window, and some were larger sizes) - it seemed like it was way too much money. But we like the window manufacturer and the old, original windows in this house were in awful shape. Still makes my stomach turn when I think about the cost though.
:omg:
Welp.....looks like this window ordeal will be kicked down the road a little further. Not going to cough up this type of cash right now. I hadn't/haven't investigated costs or anything yet....but, if it's in this ballpark we can deal with a little draft every now and then.
Honestly, get that plastic seal stuff from the local hardware store. I did that for a couple of seasons on one particular window that was drafty in our old house, and it made a world of difference.
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Chad, the ones you seal with a hair dryer correct?
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Ooof. My parents recently replaced all the windows on their 30 year old house, 18 I think. That was a doozy of a bill.
5 years ago, I had 12 windows replaced in my prior house. They were all double hung, but of very good quality. The total cost was $8,000 to $9,000.
This past fall, I had 17 windows replaced in my new house with the same company (Feldco). 3 were sliders, and one was an awning window - the other 13 were double hungs. The total cost was over $17,000.
I get inflation, but nearly double the cost for an extra five windows (granted, one was a specialty (awning) window, and some were larger sizes) - it seemed like it was way too much money. But we like the window manufacturer and the old, original windows in this house were in awful shape. Still makes my stomach turn when I think about the cost though.
:omg:
Welp.....looks like this window ordeal will be kicked down the road a little further. Not going to cough up this type of cash right now. I hadn't/haven't investigated costs or anything yet....but, if it's in this ballpark we can deal with a little draft every now and then.
Honestly, get that plastic seal stuff from the local hardware store. I did that for a couple of seasons on one particular window that was drafty in our old house, and it made a world of difference.
My father-in-law uses duct tape... :)
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Chad, the ones you seal with a hair dryer correct?
You got it, punk.
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Watch out. I start the 2 week liquid diet tomorrow, I'll be a bear.
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Watch out. I start the 2 week liquid diet tomorrow, I'll be a bear.
Teddy bear.
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I don't think so. LOL
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Watch out. I start the 2 week liquid diet tomorrow,
Nothing but beer?
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Watch out. I start the 2 week liquid diet tomorrow,
Nothing but beer?
No beer or coffee for a long time Tim. Caffeine and carbonation are bad for the stomach after the surgery.
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When is your surgery?
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
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When is your surgery?
2/7/23
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When is your surgery?
2/7/23
How long will you be out of work?
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3 weeks because I don't have to lift. If I did, it would be 6 weeks.
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Chad, the ones you seal with a hair dryer correct?
You got it, punk.
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.7e6e5e645f6607a19ce5ae081d4e42f2?rik=vEzl4iYXXxFifQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fimg.wennermedia.com%2farticle-leads-horizontal%2frs-20014-20140221-jerky-x1800-1392998852.jpg&ehk=%2fZpdk0bYGn4vSyDmiDB2A5ayPWOM2UgMiXXi56qs%2bkw%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
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Watch out. I start the 2 week liquid diet tomorrow, I'll be a bear.
Are you allowed fruit?
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Watch out. I start the 2 week liquid diet tomorrow,
Nothing but beer?
No beer or coffee for a long time Tim. Caffeine and carbonation are bad for the stomach after the surgery.
No carbonation in vodka!!
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
It's not just you. That just makes me think of some people I knew when I was that age. You're situation is no different than how those people were in the relationships I have seen from my cousins. :lol
Does she even contribute any help around the house, like cleaning, doing dishes, going to get groceries, offering to cook, those sorts of things? IF I had a child, shit, If I had a significant other that didn't contribute to help around the house, especially if it's my parents house, I would've said something, and my parents would've definitely told her something, at least they would've let me know of the situation and gave me hints to say something to my partner.
IF I had a child, I would also talk to them about this situation, and maybe relate that if she's like this around the house now, will she be this way if you two were to move in together?
But the way I see it, it's your home, and if you feel she's not doing her fair share of helping around the home, you're free to kick her out. Your son may not like it, but he also should understand your situation and how it effects the entire household.
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Watch out. I start the 2 week liquid diet tomorrow,
Nothing but beer?
No beer or coffee for a long time Tim. Caffeine and carbonation are bad for the stomach after the surgery.
No carbonation in vodka!!
(https://media.tenor.com/BE9k9kIQi50AAAAd/oh-thats-right-yes.gif)
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No alcohol until August.
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No alcohol until August.
Join the club!
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
Where does someone get the balls to do that? I mean, unless her real home is a place she can't be safe (like home abuse or something happening there) why would she even want to spend all that time in your home when your son isn't there? Also with the drinking at night. Doesn't seem appropriate for someone elses house and makes me wonder if something is wrong outside of your household. Also being your house, it seems some ground rules need to be laid out. This doesn't need to upset your son for your wife. But some common courtesy and decency for the home.
No alcohol until August.
Join the club!
Sucks, but you gotta do what you gotta do to stay healthy.
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
Kick the bitch out man, simple.
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No alcohol until August.
Join the club!
I essentially don't drink any more. I had a couple at the work XMas party and essentially felt really behind the 8 ball the next day if that makes sense. I wasn't anywhere near intoxicated but just felt off the next day. I'm just totally over it.
I think you guys will reap so many benefits and rewards from it. May be hard for you lads but the benefits will heavily outweigh giving it up. Better health, better clarity, possibly drop a few pounds and you'll save a shit load of money.
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Hey, it's OK guys. I want to do this.
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Hey, it's OK guys. I want to do this.
That's your liver talking!
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Hey, it's OK guys. I want to do this.
That's your liver talking!
My liver and Joe's liver must be liver buddies.
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My liver just called me a quitter.
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My liver just called me a quitter.
Shut up liver, you're fine.
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This liquid diet is to help shrink the liver to make the surgery easier.
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This liquid diet is to help shrink the liver to make the surgery easier.
I've done a week of liquid diet. The first 3-4 days are really hard, but then your stomach kind of just adjusts and it gets a lot easier.
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This liquid diet is to help shrink the liver to make the surgery easier.
I've done a week of liquid diet. The first 3-4 days are really hard, but then your stomach kind of just adjusts and it gets a lot easier.
What about the exit door?
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This liquid diet is to help shrink the liver to make the surgery easier.
I've done a week of liquid diet. The first 3-4 days are really hard, but then your stomach kind of just adjusts and it gets a lot easier.
I'm not looking forward to this week. Lol
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This liquid diet is to help shrink the liver to make the surgery easier.
I've done a week of liquid diet. The first 3-4 days are really hard, but then your stomach kind of just adjusts and it gets a lot easier.
What about the exit door?
Leaves as it enters.
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
Kick the bitch out man, simple.
It's not that simple though. They kick her out, good chance their son goes with her and their relationship with him is permanently damaged. My kids are too young to date, but one of my worst fears is one of them getting serious with a woman we hate or is clearly bad for him.
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We had that back in the fall, and the girl he (thankfully briefly) dated him really messed with him and had him believing he wasn't good enough for her because he was living at home.
I kinda see both sides, but the good lord has a very good point. It's a fine balance.
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
Kick the bitch out man, simple.
It's not that simple though. They kick her out, good chance their son goes with her and their relationship with him is permanently damaged. My kids are too young to date, but one of my worst fears is one of them getting serious with a woman we hate or is clearly bad for him.
That's not your decision to make though. And this is where prejudices can take hold and lead to a Romeo And Juliet scenario.
All you can do as a parent is guide them. You can't make decisions for an Adult Human Being. Doesn't being an Adult mean you are held accountable for every decision you make and are Adult enough to deal with the consequences?
Adulthood is where the true test of parenthood gets put into play.
That's why I said..."If said girlfriend is acting this way around our house. How will she act when it's just you two living together? Will she just lay in bed while you work and nothing gets done around the house (Peggy Bundy)? Because she isn't showing us she'll be capable of handling taking care of a house?"
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It is his decision. His house. Not his son's. Now of course there is steps to take to see if it can be resolved or not.
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I've faced this in the past, to various degrees. Even though I'm the stepdad, I had to tell my stepdaughter that this guy is a loser. I didn't force anything, but I did say keep your eyes open and if you ever need help or a place to sleep, we're always here for you. I did draw the line, though and say "but I'm not interested in helping that asshole continue to be a douchebag". In fact, I've had to do that twice. I've also had to say "my house, my rules".
It's firm, but it's compassionate. I'm always there for my kids/stepkids, no questions asked and I think I've proven that over the years.
Of course, I've only ever done that with the full support of my wife, so there's that.
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It is his decision. His house. Not his son's. Now of course there is steps to take to see if it can be resolved or not.
I meant on who they're dating, and there's various reasons why people form serious relationships.
Of course, having her stay there at his house is his decision because it's his house. But also, if his son makes decent money, it won't be long until he can move out and have a place of his own, and Glasser won't have to tolerate her being a dead-beat in his home.
But again, my concern would be to tell my son about his "comrade" not putting her share into helping around the house. I've witnessed, through my cousins, guys that weren't doing shit around the house. If I had a boyfriend stay over at my parents house, guaranteed, my parents would've said something to me about him not doing shit around the house. I would also expect them to help out around the house, because it's another mouth to feed, they're old enough to do stuff, and if they don't like it too bad, they're old enough to get an apartment in town if they can.
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I've faced this in the past, to various degrees. Even though I'm the stepdad, I had to tell my stepdaughter that this guy is a loser. I didn't force anything, but I did say keep your eyes open and if you ever need help or a place to sleep, we're always here for you. I did draw the line, though and say "but I'm not interested in helping that asshole continue to be a douchebag". In fact, I've had to do that twice. I've also had to say "my house, my rules".
It's firm, but it's compassionate. I'm always there for my kids/stepkids, no questions asked and I think I've proven that over the years.
Of course, I've only ever done that with the full support of my wife, so there's that.
There is definitely a right way and a wrong way to have those type of conversations. I think the compassion part is key to make clear to your child (or stepchild in your case). The last thing you want to do is make your kid run to the arms of a bad person because you drove them away questioning their relationship. Obviously once they're adults it's your kids choice and their mistake to make. But I think we've all seen enough terrible relationships to pray to God our kids to avoid those types of situations.
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I've faced this in the past, to various degrees. Even though I'm the stepdad, I had to tell my stepdaughter that this guy is a loser. I didn't force anything, but I did say keep your eyes open and if you ever need help or a place to sleep, we're always here for you. I did draw the line, though and say "but I'm not interested in helping that asshole continue to be a douchebag". In fact, I've had to do that twice. I've also had to say "my house, my rules".
It's firm, but it's compassionate. I'm always there for my kids/stepkids, no questions asked and I think I've proven that over the years.
Of course, I've only ever done that with the full support of my wife, so there's that.
There is definitely a right way and a wrong way to have those type of conversations. I think the compassion part is key to make clear to your child (or stepchild in your case). The last thing you want to do is make your kid run to the arms of a bad person because you drove them away questioning their relationship. Obviously once they're adults it's your kids choice and their mistake to make. But I think we've all seen enough terrible relationships to pray to God our kids to avoid those types of situations.
And why do people form terrible relationships? Is it because of co-dependency? Because of the need and desire to feel loved? Insecurity? Lack of self-worth and self-reliance?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-time-cure/201308/toxic-relationships
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Lack of maturity. Lack of putting the same in as the other partner. No moral compass.
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There are so many reasons a person may stick in a bad relationship. It can be lack of experience. Maybe they just can't see red flags that an older person may see.
We can all be blinded by love at times.
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There are so many reasons a person may stick in a bad relationship. It can be lack of experience. Maybe they just can't see red flags that an older person may see.
We can all be blinded by love at times.
I don't discount the fact that we - by that I mean, many people - just don't want to be alone with themselves. I think there's a comfort in being with someone, even if (and if there's "wounded bird" stuff going on, BECAUSE OF) that person being a bad fit.
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Hope is a hell of a drug.
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
Kick the bitch out man, simple.
It's not that simple though. They kick her out, good chance their son goes with her and their relationship with him is permanently damaged. My kids are too young to date, but one of my worst fears is one of them getting serious with a woman we hate or is clearly bad for him.
He's 24. No relationships will be harmed in the production of this whatever. He might be pissed about it for a while, but unless this is the woman he's going to remain married to for the next 60 years, his folks will win out in the long run.
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
You've obviously tried talking this through with your wife to try and get her to see reason?
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
I think the fact that her step father doesn't let your son sleep there is a perfect door for you to open with regards to your house.
Perhaps you could tell them that you have tried to make it work and accommodate them, but that unless they move in together, the sleepovers are finished. And you could be honest that it is causing too much stress with the rest of the family. The house simply isn't big enough. Your other kids deserve to live in a peaceful atmosphere, and you are in control of that. Don't let them down by worrying about pissing off the adult son.
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
I think the fact that her step father doesn't let your son sleep there is a perfect door for you to open with regards to your house.
Perhaps you could tell them that you have tried to make it work and accommodate them, but that unless they move in together, the sleepovers are finished. And you could be honest that it is causing too much stress with the rest of the family. The house simply isn't big enough. Your other kids deserve to live in a peaceful atmosphere, and you are in control of that. Don't let them down by worrying about pissing off the adult son.
Or your wife.
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
You've obviously tried talking this through with your wife to try and get her to see reason?
Last night actually. She agrees with me but she's afraid to upset him while he's going to school and work at the same time. Him leaving would create a financial burden to him because her anxiety cant deal with it which stresses him out even more. Its a full on codependent relationship and its rocking the ship. Btw.... She's 23, babysits a few days a month and that's it. She told me her dream is to be a stay at home mom, yes, you read that right. :censored :censored :censored :censored
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
You've obviously tried talking this through with your wife to try and get her to see reason?
Last night actually. She agrees with me but she's afraid to upset him while he's going to school and work at the same time. Him leaving would create a financial burden to him because her anxiety cant deal with it which stresses him out even more. Its a full on codependent relationship and its rocking the ship. Btw.... She's 23, babysits a few days a month and that's it. She told me her dream is to be a stay at home mom, yes, you read that right. :censored :censored :censored :censored
He's 24 mate, sometimes they have to learn the hard way, no? If he leaves, it's his choice and he will have to deal with the ramifications. Your house, your rules.
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Truth! But my wife doesn't want to roll those dice. :|
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
I think the fact that her step father doesn't let your son sleep there is a perfect door for you to open with regards to your house.
Perhaps you could tell them that you have tried to make it work and accommodate them, but that unless they move in together, the sleepovers are finished. And you could be honest that it is causing too much stress with the rest of the family. The house simply isn't big enough. Your other kids deserve to live in a peaceful atmosphere, and you are in control of that. Don't let them down by worrying about pissing off the adult son.
It has been discussed that he's not allowed there and he says he doesn't want to be there anyway, I can't win.
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Tough mate. Easy for us to all have our opinions though I guess. Tim makes a good point about the opening of it not being allowed the other way around.
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
I think the fact that her step father doesn't let your son sleep there is a perfect door for you to open with regards to your house.
Perhaps you could tell them that you have tried to make it work and accommodate them, but that unless they move in together, the sleepovers are finished. And you could be honest that it is causing too much stress with the rest of the family. The house simply isn't big enough. Your other kids deserve to live in a peaceful atmosphere, and you are in control of that. Don't let them down by worrying about pissing off the adult son.
Great point. I think Glasser really needs to do something. The impact is larger than upsetting one person in the house when the rest of the house suffers from an unwanted guest. And damn, her parents won't allow the opposite, that says something to me.
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Agreed.
Glasser, it sounds like some tough love is in order. Letting your son's girlfriend stay there and upset the entire household is not something that should be tolerated. If it upsets your son, too bad. He should not be putting that burden on you and your family.
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
You've obviously tried talking this through with your wife to try and get her to see reason?
Last night actually. She agrees with me but she's afraid to upset him while he's going to school and work at the same time. Him leaving would create a financial burden to him because her anxiety cant deal with it which stresses him out even more. Its a full on codependent relationship and its rocking the ship. Btw.... She's 23, babysits a few days a month and that's it. She told me her dream is to be a stay at home mom, yes, you read that right. :censored :censored :censored :censored
I'll put in blunt terms. He's an Adult. And like I tell my mother, even the mother bird ends up kicking her Adult bird out of the nest. If his situation with his girlfriend is causing issues, you have every right to kick her out. If he doesn't like it, well that's up to him to realize and see why.
That's part of relationships as well, and why I also believe that you are not just dating the person, you are also dating the family, because you are both integrating into different families. Is he also aware of why he isn't allowed at her house either? Why a potential father in law won't allow both of them to stay at his house? Is it because of your son or his daughter doing the same shit she is doing at your house now?
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
You've obviously tried talking this through with your wife to try and get her to see reason?
Last night actually. She agrees with me but she's afraid to upset him while he's going to school and work at the same time. Him leaving would create a financial burden to him because her anxiety cant deal with it which stresses him out even more. Its a full on codependent relationship and its rocking the ship. Btw.... She's 23, babysits a few days a month and that's it. She told me her dream is to be a stay at home mom, yes, you read that right. :censored :censored :censored :censored
I'll put in blunt terms. He's an Adult. And like I tell my mother, even the mother bird ends up kicking her Adult bird out of the nest. If his situation with his girlfriend is causing issues, you have every right to kick her out. If he doesn't like it, well that's up to him to realize and see why.
That's part of relationships as well, and why I also believe that you are not just dating the person, you are also dating the family, because you are both integrating into different families. Is he also aware of why he isn't allowed at her house either? Why a potential father in law won't allow both of them to stay at his house? Is it because of your son or his daughter doing the same shit she is doing at your house now?
I'd rather not have to go through the daughter if I'd rather just sleep with the mother. No time for all that.
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
Kick the bitch out man, simple.
:lol
Love it. If you ever set up Kade's Kounselling service, make sure you charge per appointment and not by the hour
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I don't have kids so my comments are invalid, but I would be damned in simply just trying to not upset my 24 year old son while his loser girlfriend thinks it's quite alright to stay in my house whenever she pleases and mooch my money and food and not lift a fucking finger. Fuck that. I can see it would be tricky from the Mother's perspective.
She does nothing but consume and demand. I'm hoping one day my son will wake up. She takes advantage of him and my wife's good nature which makes me look like the "mean" guy. Ironically, my son is not allowed to sleep there at all because her step father won't have it, which I agree with, but its ok that I eat all the shit. So fucking done with this shit. And sadly my other boys can't stand her which only creates stress. >:(
You've obviously tried talking this through with your wife to try and get her to see reason?
Last night actually. She agrees with me but she's afraid to upset him while he's going to school and work at the same time. Him leaving would create a financial burden to him because her anxiety cant deal with it which stresses him out even more. Its a full on codependent relationship and its rocking the ship. Btw.... She's 23, babysits a few days a month and that's it. She told me her dream is to be a stay at home mom, yes, you read that right. :censored :censored :censored :censored
I'll put in blunt terms. He's an Adult. And like I tell my mother, even the mother bird ends up kicking her Adult bird out of the nest. If his situation with his girlfriend is causing issues, you have every right to kick her out. If he doesn't like it, well that's up to him to realize and see why.
That's part of relationships as well, and why I also believe that you are not just dating the person, you are also dating the family, because you are both integrating into different families. Is he also aware of why he isn't allowed at her house either? Why a potential father in law won't allow both of them to stay at his house? Is it because of your son or his daughter doing the same shit she is doing at your house now?
I'd rather not have to go through the daughter if I'd rather just sleep with the mother. No time for all that.
:lol
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You want to know what pisses me the fuck off? DISRESPECT. My 24 year old sons girlfriend who basically does nothing all day every day essentially lives in my house and it makes me want to vomit. She's here 5 days a week. My son is in health care and works 2 overnight shifts a week, for now, and she just lays in his bed all fucking day and then is awake all night consuming food and alcohol. I have a wife and three kids in a pretty small home and having her here is not ok. She has a big home barely 5 minutes from here. My wife doesn't want to upset my son so she tolerates it. I don't understand, is it only me? :censored >:( >:( :censored
Kick the bitch out man, simple.
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Love it. If you ever set up Kade's Kounselling service, make sure you charge per appointment and not by the hour
Fuck me, that has a nice ring to it hey! :lol
2 minute appointments and your problems solved, guaranteed or your money back.
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We can tell you to Fuck off Mate in 2 minutes! :lol
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Agreed.
Glasser, it sounds like some tough love is in order. Letting your son's girlfriend stay there and upset the entire household is not something that should be tolerated. If it upsets your son, too bad. He should not be putting that burden on you and your family.
I'm on this train as well. Take it from someone who walked on eggshells for almost a decade, and am watching it happen with TWO of my kids... there's no upside to this. Sorry to be blunt: your wife is not helping by "not upsetting the apple cart". It's just making the inevitable crash of the apple cart that much worse when it finally (did I say "inevitable"?) happens.
I'd even put a fiver that there's a possibility - deep down - you'd be doing your son a solid. Any chance he's actually waiting for you to make the first move?
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Google Madison Brooks. I'm not angry that these kids will likely walk from this. I'm not angry that the driver will likely not be charged. I don't have the information to decide whether this is a crime or not. I'm angry because this was EMMINENTLY avoidable. Those people that left her at the bar to find a ride ought to be haunted for the rest of their natural lives. My friends are (or can be) dicks, but there's an unwritten rule: NEVER leave a man behind. Granted, we've done a lot of traveling together, so we're used to that sort of thing, but why was this girl alone?
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Google Madison Brooks. I'm not angry that these kids will likely walk from this. I'm not angry that the driver will likely not be charged. I don't have the information to decide whether this is a crime or not. I'm angry because this was EMMINENTLY avoidable. Those people that left her at the bar to find a ride ought to be haunted for the rest of their natural lives. My friends are (or can be) dicks, but there's an unwritten rule: NEVER leave a man behind. Granted, we've done a lot of traveling together, so we're used to that sort of thing, but why was this girl alone?
And why was so allowed to get so trashed at the bar?
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Google Madison Brooks. I'm not angry that these kids will likely walk from this. I'm not angry that the driver will likely not be charged. I don't have the information to decide whether this is a crime or not. I'm angry because this was EMMINENTLY avoidable. Those people that left her at the bar to find a ride ought to be haunted for the rest of their natural lives. My friends are (or can be) dicks, but there's an unwritten rule: NEVER leave a man behind. Granted, we've done a lot of traveling together, so we're used to that sort of thing, but why was this girl alone?
And why was so allowed to get so trashed at the bar?
Exactly. Man, just so sad.
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Google Madison Brooks. I'm not angry that these kids will likely walk from this. I'm not angry that the driver will likely not be charged. I don't have the information to decide whether this is a crime or not. I'm angry because this was EMMINENTLY avoidable. Those people that left her at the bar to find a ride ought to be haunted for the rest of their natural lives. My friends are (or can be) dicks, but there's an unwritten rule: NEVER leave a man behind. Granted, we've done a lot of traveling together, so we're used to that sort of thing, but why was this girl alone?
That's fucking frightening. Having a 22year old daughter, and thinking this is something that happens to people the age (or younger) of jingle.kids makes me shiver. So sad and tragic for the entire family. I simply couldn't imagine.
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Jesus, that's just fucked up.
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Agreed.
Glasser, it sounds like some tough love is in order. Letting your son's girlfriend stay there and upset the entire household is not something that should be tolerated. If it upsets your son, too bad. He should not be putting that burden on you and your family.
I'm on this train as well. Take it from someone who walked on eggshells for almost a decade, and am watching it happen with TWO of my kids... there's no upside to this. Sorry to be blunt: your wife is not helping by "not upsetting the apple cart". It's just making the inevitable crash of the apple cart that much worse when it finally (did I say "inevitable"?) happens.
I'd even put a fiver that there's a possibility - deep down - you'd be doing your son a solid. Any chance he's actually waiting for you to make the first move?
No, he gets extremely defensive when I hint at it. I don't understand why hes still in the relationship, even his friends are baffled as she's only " friendly" when she's drinking. Full on trainwreck. In 2017 he would not go on a family vacation unless she was able to go, he actually cried on my shoulder saying she would torment him the entire trip by phone if he went because her anxiety is so bad. We were staying with my cousin and her family in Cape Cod so I refused to ask her to let her come, we are 5 as it is. I personally think he's afraid on some level as she truly suffers with many emotional issues. Her family is not instrumental in her life as her own mother is a train wreck as well. It all just sucks.
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Agreed.
Glasser, it sounds like some tough love is in order. Letting your son's girlfriend stay there and upset the entire household is not something that should be tolerated. If it upsets your son, too bad. He should not be putting that burden on you and your family.
I'm on this train as well. Take it from someone who walked on eggshells for almost a decade, and am watching it happen with TWO of my kids... there's no upside to this. Sorry to be blunt: your wife is not helping by "not upsetting the apple cart". It's just making the inevitable crash of the apple cart that much worse when it finally (did I say "inevitable"?) happens.
I'd even put a fiver that there's a possibility - deep down - you'd be doing your son a solid. Any chance he's actually waiting for you to make the first move?
No, he gets extremely defensive when I hint at it. I don't understand why hes still in the relationship, even his friends are baffled as she's only " friendly" when she's drinking. Full on trainwreck. In 2017 he would not go on a family vacation unless she was able to go, he actually cried on my shoulder saying she would torment him the entire trip by phone if he went because her anxiety is so bad. We were staying with my cousin and her family in Cape Cod so I refused to ask her to let her come, we are 5 as it is. I personally think he's afraid on some level as she truly suffers with many emotional issues. Her family is not instrumental in her life as her own mother is a train wreck as well. It all just sucks.
WTF?! Man, Bill is right, you kicking her out is definitely doing your boy a favour. If he's crying on your shoulder deep down he knows this relationship is toxic. You're just enabling it more by letting her do what she's doing man.
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Agreed.
Glasser, it sounds like some tough love is in order. Letting your son's girlfriend stay there and upset the entire household is not something that should be tolerated. If it upsets your son, too bad. He should not be putting that burden on you and your family.
I'm on this train as well. Take it from someone who walked on eggshells for almost a decade, and am watching it happen with TWO of my kids... there's no upside to this. Sorry to be blunt: your wife is not helping by "not upsetting the apple cart". It's just making the inevitable crash of the apple cart that much worse when it finally (did I say "inevitable"?) happens.
I'd even put a fiver that there's a possibility - deep down - you'd be doing your son a solid. Any chance he's actually waiting for you to make the first move?
No, he gets extremely defensive when I hint at it. I don't understand why hes still in the relationship, even his friends are baffled as she's only " friendly" when she's drinking. Full on trainwreck. In 2017 he would not go on a family vacation unless she was able to go, he actually cried on my shoulder saying she would torment him the entire trip by phone if he went because her anxiety is so bad. We were staying with my cousin and her family in Cape Cod so I refused to ask her to let her come, we are 5 as it is. I personally think he's afraid on some level as she truly suffers with many emotional issues. Her family is not instrumental in her life as her own mother is a train wreck as well. It all just sucks.
WTF?! Man, Bill is right, you kicking her out is definitely doing your boy a favour. If he's crying on your shoulder deep down he knows this relationship is toxic. You're just enabling it more by letting her do what she's doing man.
It's easy to say from here Tom, but I kind of agree with this. Your son needs to be deprogrammed, and if he's pissed at you, even for a year, it's the right thing to do. He WILL get over it.
If you let this go, your other kids may not, and ultimately, they may end up holding that against YOU.
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This girl keeps coming off as worse and worse the more you talk about her. When your family and your son's friends all don't like her, when her own family doesn't want to do what you allow with sleepovers, when this girl drinks a lot and contributes nothing, it's all adding up that your son is likely in a toxic relationship and can't see for himself how bad this is. There's little to no doubt that the boat is going to be rocked and your wife's wishes won't be granted, but it seems necessary to lay the firm ground rules regarding your house. I can't see a scenario where this magically works out without some sort of intervention regardless.
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You're all right on this. My personal feeling is if he does move out with her this will all come to a head when he sees what its like everyday, just the two of them. She controls even more than I'm admitting. He works in healthcare and is also a volunteer EMT and there are female co-workers and staff and they have to communicate... One of his friends told me that if ANY female co-worker reaches out to him and he doesn't tell her she totally freaks out on him. My son lets it happen, maybe it will implode on its own. I'm sorry I'm painting her as a monster, she's just very insecure and manipulative and yes it is a toxic relationship that I will no longer allow under my roof.
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You're all right on this. My personal feeling is if he does move out with her this will all come to a head when he sees what its like everyday, just the two of them. She controls even more than I'm admitting. He works in healthcare and is also a volunteer EMT and there are female co-workers and staff and they have to communicate... One of his friends told me that if ANY female co-worker reaches out to him and he doesn't tell her she totally freaks out on him. My son lets it happen, maybe it will implode on its own. I'm sorry I'm painting her as a monster, she's just very insecure and manipulative and yes it is a toxic relationship that I will no longer allow under my roof.
Good luck Tom.
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How long have they been together?
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How long have they been together?
6 years. My son is 24 and she is 23.
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Good luck Tom. I hope our thoughts have been a help and comfort.
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Best of luck dude. But yeah, what you've described is NOT a healthy relationship - for your son, and the blast radius is impacting the rest of your family. It's probably going to be a rough ride, but doing nothing is one of the worst things you and your wife could/should be doing.
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My brother-in-law was in a relationship with a manipulative, OCD, compulsive liar in his late teens. Friends and family all told him she was a mess. She got pregnant (we suspect on purpose, but no way to know for sure) so he stayed with her. They eventually got married and had three kids total. It's mostly been a complete mess and divorce has been thrown around a couple times by him and she managed to convince him to stay. She finally filed for divorce last year and it seems like it'll stick this time since she initiated, but the whole thing reeks with her lies and manipulation (though BIL is not completely innocent). Nearly 20 years of his life wasted on this woman. He has three kids who are great, but are also messed up by her. It's only going to get uglier as the divorce proceeds.
All this to say... it sounds very much like your son needs to get out of this relationship ASAP. I think asking questions of your son sometime when she's not around might help. He needs to make the decision to end it, but you can help steer him. "Are you happy with her?" "Is this the kind of life you want?" "Can you see yourself starting a family with her?" Etc. Setting limits on how many nights a week she spends at your home and that she can't be there if he's not are perfectly reasonable compromises that don't involve straight kicking her out.
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All this to say... it sounds very much like your son needs to get out of this relationship ASAP. I think asking questions of your son sometime when she's not around might help. He needs to make the decision to end it, but you can help steer him. "Are you happy with her?" "Is this the kind of life you want?" "Can you see yourself starting a family with her?" Etc. Setting limits on how many nights a week she spends at your home and that she can't be there if he's not are perfectly reasonable compromises that don't involve straight kicking her out.
Very important point here. You have to let him have your way.
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Thanks for the great input and support, It will not go to waste. I will let you all know when and which way the hammer falls.
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Wasn’t today but last night……paid that freaking IRS tab off last night. >:( Tough pill to swallow.
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Wasn’t today but last night……paid that freaking IRS tab off last night. >:( Tough pill to swallow.
Or maybe that's your birthday gift to yourself :biggrin:
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Wasn’t today but last night……paid that freaking IRS tab off last night. >:( Tough pill to swallow.
Or maybe that's your birthday gift to yourself :biggrin:
Being pissed off?? :biggrin:
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Wasn’t today but last night……paid that freaking IRS tab off last night. >:( Tough pill to swallow.
Or maybe that's your birthday gift to yourself :biggrin:
Being pissed off?? :biggrin:
Getting the IRS off your back ;)
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My meat delivery is now 5 hours late, new guy on the route who I guess is lost as fuck. I got everything else done, and am ready to go except I need to prep stocks and make a soup, about two hours work at least, and I'm just sitting with my thumb up my ass waiting for this fucker to show up. (don't worry, I'll wash the thumb before making said soup)
:censored
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Sucks, especially for a friday to be stuck waiting to be able to work.
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My meat delivery is now 5 hours late, new guy on the route who I guess is lost as fuck. I got everything else done, and am ready to go except I need to prep stocks and make a soup, about two hours work at least, and I'm just sitting with my thumb up my ass waiting for this fucker to show up. (don't worry, I'll wash the thumb before making said soup)
:censored
Oh no... ;D
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My meat delivery is now 5 hours late, new guy on the route who I guess is lost as fuck. I got everything else done, and am ready to go except I need to prep stocks and make a soup, about two hours work at least, and I'm just sitting with my thumb up my ass waiting for this fucker to show up. (don't worry, I'll wash the thumb before making said soup)
:censored
Oh no... ;D
And you wonder why we hate you all...
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Update...Meat finally arrived, just bumped out prep for a chicken stock, a beef stock, and made a chicken noodle soup in 35 minutes. Felt like I just crushed an episode of Iron Chef...
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Update...Meat finally arrived, just bumped out prep for a chicken stock, a beef stock, and made a chicken noodle soup in 35 minutes. Felt like I just crushed an episode of Iron Chef...
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Going to use this thread to vent a bit soooo....here it goes:
My in-laws are celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary this year......and to celebrate they've decided to take the entire family to a resort in Mexico. And I'm livid about it. Let me explain.
First off, I don't like not having a choice in the matter. I was just 'told' that by the way....you're taking your wife and kids to a third world country of which there has been all sorts of shit going down in for a while. Sure, it's a 'resort' and "everything will be fine as long as you don't leave the resort" and so forth.....but the fact of the matter that I wasn't given a choice at all doesn't and will never sit well with me. Especially when it comes to matters that directly affect my family. Which this does.
Secondly, all the siblings (their kids) just allowed them to take out a second mortgage on their home to foot the bill for all of this. Horrible idea, completely irresponsible for not one of them to bring up the fact of what a dumb idea this is. Then, we find out that since they're paying for everyone that of course they choose a cheaper airline (Frontier) and I just had to drop $700 on seat selections and baggage.....add that to the cost of getting passports for a family of (5) and I'm now $1600 deep into this "free" trip to Mexico that I had no say in the matter.
Now factor in the seaweed issue that is enveloping the entire gulf as we speak.....and by the time we get down there in June will be nice and ripe and make anything beach unbearable.....and this just keeps making the case for a dumb idea.
This thing should have been discussed.....should have taken place stateside for a fraction of the cost that would eliminate the travel headaches and dangers. I can' describe in words how F'n ticked off I am over this and the fact my family has been taken hostage by this all. And of course, I'm the 'bad guy' in all of this when discussing with my wife or brother in laws because "why am I not thankful for a 'free' trip to Mexico?' Maybe I am being a baby about it all.....I get it....you only live once, go make some memories and be happy. But I have a massive character flaw when it comes to being told what to do with no input or other options...to just shut up and do it.
I'll smile for the pictures and keep quiet about it all (unless asked or provoked) but I' don't think I'll get to the point to where I'm A) looking forward to this or B) happy about any of it. Especially since every time I turn a corner there's some other cost I have to cough up for this 'free' trip
/end rant
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Mexico is not a third world country.
I won't tell you not to be pissed about it. I'd be pissed off too based on what you describe. I will tell you that since you're stuck with it you should try to make the best of it. You're going to make yourself miserable the entire time at the rate you're going, and that's a bad move on your part. It might not be how you'd want to blow 1600, but there will be worthwhile things about it if you embrace them.
Also, those passports are good for ten years. Since you were forced to buy them make use of them. If nothing else, your kids will probably appreciate having them.
Don't discount the possibility of a cheap flight to Mexico City while you're down there. It's a nice place with tons to do. Hell, there's a decent chance a band you like will be in town while you're down there.
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I dont think it's right to make someone feel forced to go on a trip. I'd be annoyed about that myself. Having said that, it doesn't really sound THAT bad. There's lots of worse things than being forced to go on a vacation to a beach resort. I do kind of feel the same as you though as to not want to go to Mexico. I'm sure it's fine and all, but it's just not worth it IMO. I have almost no desire to personally go there. And that's why we are going to Aruba in May. (My gf was pushing Mexico)
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I get wanting to celebrate such a big milestone, but certainly a discussion should've happened with everyone involved. I'm sure some sort of agreement could've been made and there would be no need for anyone to feel forced into it.
Not sure which part of Mexico it is for the trip, but I've been down there a few times, and each time I had a great time. If you have no way of getting out of it, just try to make the best of it, I'm sure there will be plenty of entertainment and things to do.
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I dunno dude. If Mexico is good to help Andy Dufresne survive hell for 20 years, then it's good enough for you!
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Going to use this thread to vent a bit soooo....here it goes:
My in-laws are celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary this year......and to celebrate they've decided to take the entire family to a resort in Mexico. And I'm livid about it. Let me explain.
First off, I don't like not having a choice in the matter. I was just 'told' that by the way....you're taking your wife and kids to a third world country of which there has been all sorts of shit going down in for a while. Sure, it's a 'resort' and "everything will be fine as long as you don't leave the resort" and so forth.....but the fact of the matter that I wasn't given a choice at all doesn't and will never sit well with me. Especially when it comes to matters that directly affect my family. Which this does.
Secondly, all the siblings (their kids) just allowed them to take out a second mortgage on their home to foot the bill for all of this. Horrible idea, completely irresponsible for not one of them to bring up the fact of what a dumb idea this is. Then, we find out that since they're paying for everyone that of course they choose a cheaper airline (Frontier) and I just had to drop $700 on seat selections and baggage.....add that to the cost of getting passports for a family of (5) and I'm now $1600 deep into this "free" trip to Mexico that I had no say in the matter.
Now factor in the seaweed issue that is enveloping the entire gulf as we speak.....and by the time we get down there in June will be nice and ripe and make anything beach unbearable.....and this just keeps making the case for a dumb idea.
This thing should have been discussed.....should have taken place stateside for a fraction of the cost that would eliminate the travel headaches and dangers. I can' describe in words how F'n ticked off I am over this and the fact my family has been taken hostage by this all. And of course, I'm the 'bad guy' in all of this when discussing with my wife or brother in laws because "why am I not thankful for a 'free' trip to Mexico?' Maybe I am being a baby about it all.....I get it....you only live once, go make some memories and be happy. But I have a massive character flaw when it comes to being told what to do with no input or other options...to just shut up and do it.
I'll smile for the pictures and keep quiet about it all (unless asked or provoked) but I' don't think I'll get to the point to where I'm A) looking forward to this or B) happy about any of it. Especially since every time I turn a corner there's some other cost I have to cough up for this 'free' trip
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Wow, Gary, that is fucked up.
A few years ago, my family wanted to go to China. My wife's brother married a girl from China years ago, and the entire family was going to go. It was going to be a big family trip for my wife's family.
I am an extremely accommodating husband, but this was one instance where I put my foot down. I said I am NOT FUCKING going, and neither are the kids. The trip ultimately never happened and there's no way in hell I'd go or let my kids go. My wife knew I was dead serious.
Mexico is not a third world country.
I get it. Murders and kidnappings happen every day in the US too, hell even in Boston, but there's no way in hell that I would ever step foot in Mexico.
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EB and Marc.....both great points. Like I said, this is only a "problem" because I had zero choice or option. I get weird about decisions that are made that affect my entire family...especially decisions that I had no say in the matter.
I don't want to ruin it for everyone else and I know that I need to alter my mindset and approach. $1,600 for an all inclusive trip for a family of 5 is an incredible deal and I 'should' be happy about it. But like I said, it's just the way it all went down. This entire trip and all the plans were made by my in-laws then they told all of us about it. I understand they're the ones paying for it so it's their 'say'....but man....it just eats at me.
I get wanting to celebrate such a big milestone, but certainly a discussion should've happened with everyone involved. I'm sure some sort of agreement could've been made and there would be no need for anyone to feel forced into it.
Not sure which part of Mexico it is for the trip, but I've been down there a few times, and each time I had a great time. If you have no way of getting out of it, just try to make the best of it, I'm sure there will be plenty of entertainment and things to do.
The resort looks incredible....it really does. I'm certain it'll be fine and a good time 'can' be had. I just need to reorganize some things mentally because right now I'm not on the 'lets go have fun' train. I'm on the 'pissed off train'.
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Mexico is not a third world country.
I get it. Murders and kidnappings happen every day in the US too, hell even in Boston, but there's no way in hell that I would ever step foot in Mexico.
Yeah...I know Mexico isn't a third world country....so maybe that wasn't a fair statement. But it's dangerous as all hell, especially if you do go off of resort property.....which I don't think we will. Or should I say, I'm not going to allow any of my family to do so.
Wow, Gary, that is fucked up.
A few years ago, my family wanted to go to China. My wife's brother married a girl from China years ago, and the entire family was going to go. It was going to be a big family trip for my wife's family.
I am an extremely accommodating husband, but this was one instance where I put my foot down. I said I am NOT FUCKING going, and neither are the kids. The trip ultimately never happened and there's no way in hell I'd go or let my kids go. My wife knew I was dead serious.
Totally get it and am 100% on board with you. I honestly thing the reason my in laws paid for and organized all this behind all our backs is that they know thier three son in laws would have never agreed to it. Which pisses me off even more that they just 'did' this without any discussion.
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EB and Marc.....both great points. Like I said, this is only a "problem" because I had zero choice or option. I get weird about decisions that are made that affect my entire family...especially decisions that I had no say in the matter.
This is me as well. I get really torn up when someone, even with good intentions, tries to make plans on my behalf without including me in the discussion. I'm like basically the forgotten one in my family so it constantly happens that the rest of the family make extravagant plans without me and expect me to pay in and attend as well. It's very frustrating for me to deal with so I can very much relate to your situation and the feeling it brings to me.
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Yeah...I know Mexico isn't a third world country....so maybe that wasn't a fair statement. But it's dangerous as all hell, especially if you do go off of resort property.....which I don't think we will. Or should I say, I'm not going to allow any of my family to do so.
It depends on what town you're in and what times you're off-property. My wife and I went to Cabo San Lucas 10 years ago and received common-sense advice from a friend. During the daytime, sight-seeing is safe. We took a water taxi to town, walked around the streets, did some shopping, had lunch. At night, it's a different story - take a taxi to and from the resort, and don't be out walking on the streets after 10pm.
We chose to stay at the resort at night, since neither of us felt like clubbing and we spent our days drinking by the pool and slept it off after a later dinner. I know it's been 10 years, but if I went back to Cabo, I'd generally feel safe about being in town during the day.
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Mexico is not a third world country.
I get it. Murders and kidnappings happen every day in the US too, hell even in Boston, but there's no way in hell that I would ever step foot in Mexico.
Yeah...I know Mexico isn't a third world country....so maybe that wasn't a fair statement. But it's dangerous as all hell, especially if you do go off of resort property.....which I don't think we will. Or should I say, I'm not going to allow any of my family to do so.
Unless you're planning on vacationing in some backwater border town, and you are not, it'll almost certainly be a helluva lot safer than St. Louis. And that's for the actual resort towns, rather than the resort properties. Moreover, the crime you'll likely encounter will be tourism related. Somebody trying to sell me a bag of grass is hardly a crime against me. You won't be shot, beaten, or stabbed because you're a white guy. I realize that you wouldn't vacation in St Louis, either, but I'm guessing you're not terrified of it. The fear-mongering here is a little much. You're not traveling to Mogadishu.
Also, I can only speak for CDMX, but I think you might be surprised by the number of cops you'll see. They're ubiquitous, and unlike here, they're actually there to look out for you. Tourism is their lifeblood, and keeping you safe is very important to them.
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Guilty of fear mongering.
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Can't really add more than what has already been said. On board with the anger for being kept out of the loop, but also supportive of El Barto's assessment (and he's probably spent more time in Mexico than all of us combined). In very specific locations - where you're not going (that is, the backwater border towns) - you might have trouble, but that's like me going to Harlem or Bridgeport, CT. I'm in just as much a precarious situation there as well.
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But it's one thing for El Barto, who is a seasoned traveler, and well, I'm not saying he looks Mexican, but he looks more Mexican than I do. :lol
Plus, if I was a Spring Breaker or single, that'd be one thing, but when you bring your own children into another country, there's just more to think about.
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But it's one thing for El Barto, who is a seasoned traveler, and well, I'm not saying he looks Mexican, but he looks more Mexican than I do. :lol
That doesn't exactly work the way you think it does. Bigotry isn't as much a thing down there as it is up here. A Mexican up here will get it a lot worse than a white guy down there. Moreover, see again about the tourism. They tend to be pretty accommodating to gringos down there. Also, the beard makes me the furthest thing from a Mexican. I stick out like a sore thumb. People want to take selfies with me, FFS. :lol
Plus, if I was a Spring Breaker or single, that'd be one thing, but when you bring your own children into another country, there's just more to think about.
Yes and no, but it goes both ways. Maybe the kids would benefit greatly from being exposed to other worlds. At least Mexico I can kind of understand. FOX has people convinced that white parts of America are the only places in the world that aren't full blown combat zones. China baffled me, though. That's something that might have had a profound, positive effect on one or more of your kids. A friend went to Russia with his school class when he was a lad, and considers himself all the better for it. Wish I'd had such an experience.
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But it's one thing for El Barto, who is a seasoned traveler, and well, I'm not saying he looks Mexican, but he looks more Mexican than I do. :lol
Plus, if I was a Spring Breaker or single, that'd be one thing, but when you bring your own children into another country, there's just more to think about.
Don't disagree.
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But it's one thing for El Barto, who is a seasoned traveler, and well, I'm not saying he looks Mexican, but he looks more Mexican than I do. :lol
That doesn't exactly work the way you think it does. Bigotry isn't as much a thing down there as it is up here. A Mexican up here will get it a lot worse than a white guy down there. Moreover, see again about the tourism. They tend to be pretty accommodating to gringos down there. Also, the beard makes me the furthest thing from a Mexican. I stick out like a sore thumb. People want to take selfies with me, FFS. :lol
Plus, if I was a Spring Breaker or single, that'd be one thing, but when you bring your own children into another country, there's just more to think about.
Yes and no, but it goes both ways. Maybe the kids would benefit greatly from being exposed to other worlds. At least Mexico I can kind of understand. FOX has people convinced that white parts of America are the only places in the world that aren't full blown combat zones. China baffled me, though. That's something that might have had a profound, positive effect on one or more of your kids. A friend went to Russia with his school class when he was a lad, and considers himself all the better for it. Wish I'd had such an experience.
Bart, I totally understand your very valid points.
But I don't consider myself bigoted or a Fox zealot.
I guess when making any decisions, we have to lay out the pros and cons of it, and make the best decision we can for ourselves.
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But it's one thing for El Barto, who is a seasoned traveler, and well, I'm not saying he looks Mexican, but he looks more Mexican than I do. :lol
That doesn't exactly work the way you think it does. Bigotry isn't as much a thing down there as it is up here. A Mexican up here will get it a lot worse than a white guy down there. Moreover, see again about the tourism. They tend to be pretty accommodating to gringos down there. Also, the beard makes me the furthest thing from a Mexican. I stick out like a sore thumb. People want to take selfies with me, FFS. :lol
Plus, if I was a Spring Breaker or single, that'd be one thing, but when you bring your own children into another country, there's just more to think about.
Yes and no, but it goes both ways. Maybe the kids would benefit greatly from being exposed to other worlds. At least Mexico I can kind of understand. FOX has people convinced that white parts of America are the only places in the world that aren't full blown combat zones. China baffled me, though. That's something that might have had a profound, positive effect on one or more of your kids. A friend went to Russia with his school class when he was a lad, and considers himself all the better for it. Wish I'd had such an experience.
Bart, I totally understand your very valid points.
But I don't consider myself bigoted or a Fox zealot.
I guess when making any decisions, we have to lay out the pros and cons of it, and make the best decision we can for ourselves.
Nor do I. And I'm not looking to call you out. I just think people might be acting on dubious information, and that's kind of a sore spot for me. I'll be heading to Chicago this Spring, and to listen to people now you'd think I'd be shot before I even made it out of the airport.
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There's little doubt in my mind that walking the streets of NYC is more dangerous than going to a resort in Mexico. I, personally, just don't see the draw to going there over other spots for a beach trip however. That's just me though, the "crime" is only a very small part of that decision. I dislike the "don't drink the water" significantly more.
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Nor do I. And I'm not looking to call you out. I just think people might be acting on dubious information, and that's kind of a sore spot for me. I'll be heading to Chicago this Spring, and to listen to people now you'd think I'd be shot before I even made it out of the airport.
Well, I have a finite number of TACations to take, and if I really have to convince myself to go, then it moves down on the list.
We've been to Chicago with the kids and had a very nice time.
And dubious info? I see the news. I don't lean left or right. It is what it is. A girl goes to get a tummy tuck and half the party is killed. Probably at least 100 that made it in and out without a problem.
If I had this innate need to go to Mexico, I'd research it and figure it out but for now, the ride at EPCOT will suffice. :lol
There's little doubt in my mind that walking the streets of NYC is more dangerous than going to a resort in Mexico. I, personally, just don't see the draw to going there over other spots for a beach trip however. That's just me though, the "crime" is only a very small part of that decision. I dislike the "don't drink the water" significantly more.
I am, however, bigoted about beach trips. ;D
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There's little doubt in my mind that walking the streets of NYC is more dangerous than going to a resort in Mexico. I, personally, just don't see the draw to going there over other spots for a beach trip however. That's just me though, the "crime" is only a very small part of that decision. I dislike the "don't drink the water" significantly more.
I am, however, bigoted about beach trips. ;D
I used to be too, but doing nothing in the tropics with a drink is a very nice thing Ive come around to enjoying as I get older.
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I must say, my favorite thing to do at the beach is to sit on the beach under an umbrella with some music going, a drink in one hand and a cigar in the other. That can be done at a LOT of different beaches.
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Nor do I. And I'm not looking to call you out. I just think people might be acting on dubious information, and that's kind of a sore spot for me. I'll be heading to Chicago this Spring, and to listen to people now you'd think I'd be shot before I even made it out of the airport.
Well, I have a finite number of TACations to take, and if I really have to convince myself to go, then it moves down on the list.
We've been to Chicago with the kids and had a very nice time.
And dubious info? I see the news. I don't lean left or right. It is what it is. A girl goes to get a tummy tuck and half the party is killed. Probably at least 100 that made it in and out without a problem.
If I had this innate need to go to Mexico, I'd research it and figure it out but for now, the ride at EPCOT will suffice. :lol
And not even that; they used to have this great drink - a horchata - ONLY in Mexico, and last time we were there it wasn't available. I had to drink this fruity black cherry frosty something or other. Didn't cut the mustard.
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There's little doubt in my mind that walking the streets of NYC is more dangerous than going to a resort in Mexico. I, personally, just don't see the draw to going there over other spots for a beach trip however. That's just me though, the "crime" is only a very small part of that decision. I dislike the "don't drink the water" significantly more.
Yeah, I don't really see the appeal of a beach vacation at all, but that's just me. The sun is not my friend, and I like being on the move. The appeal of Mexico to me is good concerts, better crowds, and great food for nearly nada. And "don't drink the water" isn't really much of a thing anymore. Not only is it pretty clean nowadays, when you travel do you drink the water anywhere?
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And "don't drink the water" isn't really much of a thing anymore. Not only is it pretty clean nowadays, when you travel do you drink the water anywhere?
Only if it's safe and tastes good (which obviously I can't tell until I try it). I do my research before drinking from a tap in a foreign country (or even in the US, for example LA is apparently safe but it tastes nasty to me so I won't drink it) Singapore has great tasting tap water that is completely safe. Aruba also does. I also drink a shit ton of water (specifically ice cold water) so it probably is something I put more weight to than others and if I'm going to a beach resort, I'm going to need to drink even more water and take into account the ice in my cocktails.
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don't really see the appeal of a beach vacation at all, but that's just me.
I'm good for one day at the beach. After that it's just boring and uneventful. My all time favorite family vacation thus far (my family) is when we went to Breckenridge two summers ago. Lots of hiking, biking, swimming in nice lakes.....just really fun stuff. I prefer the mountains, woods etc etc over the beach. Like I said....about three or four hours into a beach session and I'm over it. ESPECIALLY when we did beach vacations when the boys were younger. Young kids on the beach are nothing but constant work....it's not even a vacation it's just never ending solving issue after issue.
There will be (4) kids on this trip that are 5 and under. Thankfully not mine....but just being present I'll get roped into having to take care of and watch them because one of my bro in laws is 62 (yes....my sis in law married a guy over 30 years older than her and they now have twin three year olds) so he is pretty much over raising kids and she does everything......my other bro in law who has two kids that are 5 and 3 is literally +/-500lbs so there isn't a whole lot of participation there either.....so my other sis in law is usually running ragged after them. By default....I generally end up having to participate in parenting activities that I've already put my time in on and it gets old real quick.
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And "don't drink the water" isn't really much of a thing anymore. Not only is it pretty clean nowadays, when you travel do you drink the water anywhere?
Only if it's safe and tastes good (which obviously I can't tell until I try it). I do my research before drinking from a tap in a foreign country (or even in the US, for example LA is apparently safe but it tastes nasty to me so I won't drink it) Singapore has great tasting tap water that is completely safe. Aruba also does. I also drink a shit ton of water (specifically ice cold water) so it probably is something I put more weight to than others and if I'm going to a beach resort, I'm going to need to drink even more water and take into account the ice in my cocktails.
Bottled water has just become so ingrained in me when I travel sampling the local tap water never comes up. I walk into every hotel with two 1L bottles, and if it's a road trip the very first stop after the airport is Walmart for a cooler, case of water, and two bags of ice. I also drink a ton of water, what with the kidney thing and all, so drinking good water is worth the added cost and hassle.
And one of the neat things about Mexico is that the local convenience stores have lots of flavours of water that you've never heard of, but are typically pretty good. Until you've looked into it you never realize how many different kinds of fruit there are that we don't know about. I'll grab a L of plain and a L of mystery water. :lol
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don't really see the appeal of a beach vacation at all, but that's just me.
I'm good for one day at the beach. After that it's just boring and uneventful. My all time favorite family vacation thus far (my family) is when we went to Breckenridge two summers ago. Lots of hiking, biking, swimming in nice lakes.....just really fun stuff. I prefer the mountains, woods etc etc over the beach. Like I said....about three or four hours into a beach session and I'm over it. ESPECIALLY when we did beach vacations when the boys were younger. Young kids on the beach are nothing but constant work....it's not even a vacation it's just never ending solving issue after issue.
There will be (4) kids on this trip that are 5 and under. Thankfully not mine....but just being present I'll get roped into having to take care of and watch them because one of my bro in laws is 62 (yes....my sis in law married a guy over 30 years older than her and they now have twin three year olds) so he is pretty much over raising kids and she does everything......my other bro in law who has two kids that are 5 and 3 is literally +/-500lbs so there isn't a whole lot of participation there either.....so my other sis in law is usually running ragged after them. By default....I generally end up having to participate in parenting activities that I've already put my time in on and it gets old real quick.
You could always fake covid. :dunno:
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I would have reacted the exact same way as you, especially after the incurred costs. I guarantee I would be screaming and yelling about it. I also have no interest in a beach vacation. Seems boring. Just expensive swimming which I could do right here.
I also have no interest in stepping foot in Mexico regardless of how they view us. I just read and hear too many stories about people getting robbed, corrupt cops, etc.
And as a suburban resident of Chicago who frequently has to be downtown and attends many a concert there, I never have the slightest fear of being shot.
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And "don't drink the water" isn't really much of a thing anymore. Not only is it pretty clean nowadays, when you travel do you drink the water anywhere?
Only if it's safe and tastes good (which obviously I can't tell until I try it). I do my research before drinking from a tap in a foreign country (or even in the US, for example LA is apparently safe but it tastes nasty to me so I won't drink it) Singapore has great tasting tap water that is completely safe. Aruba also does. I also drink a shit ton of water (specifically ice cold water) so it probably is something I put more weight to than others and if I'm going to a beach resort, I'm going to need to drink even more water and take into account the ice in my cocktails.
Bottled water has just become so ingrained in me when I travel sampling the local tap water never comes up. I walk into every hotel with two 1L bottles, and if it's a road trip the very first stop after the airport is Walmart for a cooler, case of water, and two bags of ice. I also drink a ton of water, what with the kidney thing and all, so drinking good water is worth the added cost and hassle.
And one of the neat things about Mexico is that the local convenience stores have lots of flavours of water that you've never heard of, but are typically pretty good. Until you've looked into it you never realize how many different kinds of fruit there are that we don't know about. I'll grab a L of plain and a L of mystery water. :lol
It's probably a life style thing. My brother refuses to drink any tap water. I only drink the tap water (via a filter) at home. It's just not cost effective to drink bottled and I don't think the benefit is there, for me, when the tap water is safe and tastes good. I take that mentality when I travel. Just one less thing to worry about too. I do the same thing when I travel to LA, immediately hit up a store to get jugs of water. I'd rather avoid that step. Once again, not make or break to deciding where to go on it's own, but it adds to the pros and cons for me. Water gets pretty heavy to carry around too.
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Yeah, I don't really see the appeal of a beach vacation at all, but that's just me.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I can literally sit at a beach by a lake in Minnesota. Sure not the same as the ocean in Mexico, particularly in the winter, but I don't need to travel thousands of miles for water and sand. And the last thing I want to do it sit around getting sunburnt.
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There will be (4) kids on this trip that are 5 and under. Thankfully not mine....but just being present I'll get roped into having to take care of and watch them because one of my bro in laws is 62 (yes....my sis in law married a guy over 30 years older than her and they now have twin three year olds) so he is pretty much over raising kids and she does everything......my other bro in law who has two kids that are 5 and 3 is literally +/-500lbs so there isn't a whole lot of participation there either.....so my other sis in law is usually running ragged after them. By default....I generally end up having to participate in parenting activities that I've already put my time in on and it gets old real quick.
I take back everything I said; now I get why you were angry!!
(I kid, brother, I kid; I'm not making fun of your family!!)
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There will be (4) kids on this trip that are 5 and under. Thankfully not mine....but just being present I'll get roped into having to take care of and watch them because one of my bro in laws is 62 (yes....my sis in law married a guy over 30 years older than her and they now have twin three year olds) so he is pretty much over raising kids and she does everything......my other bro in law who has two kids that are 5 and 3 is literally +/-500lbs so there isn't a whole lot of participation there either.....so my other sis in law is usually running ragged after them. By default....I generally end up having to participate in parenting activities that I've already put my time in on and it gets old real quick.
Dammit Gary..you've fucking pissed me off! :lol
I feel for ya. The whole thing sounds brutal.
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don't really see the appeal of a beach vacation at all, but that's just me.
I'm good for one day at the beach. After that it's just boring and uneventful. My all time favorite family vacation thus far (my family) is when we went to Breckenridge two summers ago. Lots of hiking, biking, swimming in nice lakes.....just really fun stuff. I prefer the mountains, woods etc etc over the beach. Like I said....about three or four hours into a beach session and I'm over it. ESPECIALLY when we did beach vacations when the boys were younger. Young kids on the beach are nothing but constant work....it's not even a vacation it's just never ending solving issue after issue.
There will be (4) kids on this trip that are 5 and under. Thankfully not mine....but just being present I'll get roped into having to take care of and watch them because one of my bro in laws is 62 (yes....my sis in law married a guy over 30 years older than her and they now have twin three year olds) so he is pretty much over raising kids and she does everything......my other bro in law who has two kids that are 5 and 3 is literally +/-500lbs so there isn't a whole lot of participation there either.....so my other sis in law is usually running ragged after them. By default....I generally end up having to participate in parenting activities that I've already put my time in on and it gets old real quick.
You could always fake covid. :dunno:
The best way to get a ten day break! (https://youtu.be/hPtH43VmvJI)
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Going to use this thread to vent a bit soooo....here it goes:
My in-laws are celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary this year......and to celebrate they've decided to take the entire family to a resort in Mexico. And I'm livid about it. Let me explain.
First off, I don't like not having a choice in the matter. I was just 'told' that by the way....you're taking your wife and kids to a third world country of which there has been all sorts of shit going down in for a while. Sure, it's a 'resort' and "everything will be fine as long as you don't leave the resort" and so forth.....but the fact of the matter that I wasn't given a choice at all doesn't and will never sit well with me. Especially when it comes to matters that directly affect my family. Which this does.
Secondly, all the siblings (their kids) just allowed them to take out a second mortgage on their home to foot the bill for all of this. Horrible idea, completely irresponsible for not one of them to bring up the fact of what a dumb idea this is. Then, we find out that since they're paying for everyone that of course they choose a cheaper airline (Frontier) and I just had to drop $700 on seat selections and baggage.....add that to the cost of getting passports for a family of (5) and I'm now $1600 deep into this "free" trip to Mexico that I had no say in the matter.
Now factor in the seaweed issue that is enveloping the entire gulf as we speak.....and by the time we get down there in June will be nice and ripe and make anything beach unbearable.....and this just keeps making the case for a dumb idea.
This thing should have been discussed.....should have taken place stateside for a fraction of the cost that would eliminate the travel headaches and dangers. I can' describe in words how F'n ticked off I am over this and the fact my family has been taken hostage by this all. And of course, I'm the 'bad guy' in all of this when discussing with my wife or brother in laws because "why am I not thankful for a 'free' trip to Mexico?' Maybe I am being a baby about it all.....I get it....you only live once, go make some memories and be happy. But I have a massive character flaw when it comes to being told what to do with no input or other options...to just shut up and do it.
I'll smile for the pictures and keep quiet about it all (unless asked or provoked) but I' don't think I'll get to the point to where I'm A) looking forward to this or B) happy about any of it. Especially since every time I turn a corner there's some other cost I have to cough up for this 'free' trip
/end rant
Tell them to fuck off and you're not going. That would piss me off too. The nerve of them just making a decision like that and expect you to be grateful about it. Fuck that. People really are fucking oblivious sometimes. I think you have every right to be annoyed mate.
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Gary,
Where are you going? Cozumel, Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo...?
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Gary,
Where are you going? Cozumel, Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo...?
Some all inclusive resort in Cancun. I’ll try to find the name of the place and more info.
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Wasn't a resort in Cancun shot up or very near it a couple of years ago?
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Wasn't a resort in Cancun shot up or very near it a couple of years ago?
No, but a couple of tourists got caught in the crossfire between rival gangs, but they were in the city proper. There was also an incident where two guys were clipped in the middle of a resort, but that was a mob hit on two gangster types who actually deserved it. Cancun is an interesting situation. The state it resides in is deep in the heart of cartel country, and it's a big city so there's already apt to be a lot of crime. However, the gangbangers tend to keep their activities outside of the touristy parts, and violent crime inside of them is quite rare. Moreover, after the two tourists got shot Juan Law came down on the place pretty hard. Honestly, pickpocketing and other tourist scams are the real threat there.
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Wasn't a resort in Cancun shot up or very near it a couple of years ago?
No, but a couple of tourists got caught in the crossfire between rival gangs, but they were in the city proper. There was also an incident where two guys were clipped in the middle of a resort, but that was a mob hit on two gangster types who actually deserved it. Cancun is an interesting situation. The state it resides in is deep in the heart of cartel country, and it's a big city so there's already apt to be a lot of crime. However, the gangbangers tend to keep their activities outside of the touristy parts, and violent crime inside of them is quite rare. Moreover, after the two tourists got shot Juan Law came down on the place pretty hard. Honestly, pickpocketing and other tourist scams are the real threat there.
I know my comment was extremely vague and likely inaccurate.... but I feel much better now. :lol
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So what I'm gathering here is that we're aiming for a DTF meet up 2024 in Mexico?
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Going to use this thread to vent a bit soooo....here it goes:
My in-laws are celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary this year......and to celebrate they've decided to take the entire family to a resort in Mexico. And I'm livid about it. Let me explain.
First off, I don't like not having a choice in the matter. I was just 'told' that by the way....you're taking your wife and kids to a third world country of which there has been all sorts of shit going down in for a while. Sure, it's a 'resort' and "everything will be fine as long as you don't leave the resort" and so forth.....but the fact of the matter that I wasn't given a choice at all doesn't and will never sit well with me. Especially when it comes to matters that directly affect my family. Which this does.
Secondly, all the siblings (their kids) just allowed them to take out a second mortgage on their home to foot the bill for all of this. Horrible idea, completely irresponsible for not one of them to bring up the fact of what a dumb idea this is. Then, we find out that since they're paying for everyone that of course they choose a cheaper airline (Frontier) and I just had to drop $700 on seat selections and baggage.....add that to the cost of getting passports for a family of (5) and I'm now $1600 deep into this "free" trip to Mexico that I had no say in the matter.
Now factor in the seaweed issue that is enveloping the entire gulf as we speak.....and by the time we get down there in June will be nice and ripe and make anything beach unbearable.....and this just keeps making the case for a dumb idea.
This thing should have been discussed.....should have taken place stateside for a fraction of the cost that would eliminate the travel headaches and dangers. I can' describe in words how F'n ticked off I am over this and the fact my family has been taken hostage by this all. And of course, I'm the 'bad guy' in all of this when discussing with my wife or brother in laws because "why am I not thankful for a 'free' trip to Mexico?' Maybe I am being a baby about it all.....I get it....you only live once, go make some memories and be happy. But I have a massive character flaw when it comes to being told what to do with no input or other options...to just shut up and do it.
I'll smile for the pictures and keep quiet about it all (unless asked or provoked) but I' don't think I'll get to the point to where I'm A) looking forward to this or B) happy about any of it. Especially since every time I turn a corner there's some other cost I have to cough up for this 'free' trip
/end rant
Tell them to fuck off and you're not going. That would piss me off too. The nerve of them just making a decision like that and expect you to be grateful about it. Fuck that. People really are fucking oblivious sometimes. I think you have every right to be annoyed mate.
Kade, No holding back, I love it!!! and I agree 100%! :lol :lol :lol :tup
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So what I'm gathering here is that we're aiming for a DTF meet up 2024 in Mexico?
At la casa de Barto.
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Tell them to fuck off and you're not going. That would piss me off too. The nerve of them just making a decision like that and expect you to be grateful about it. Fuck that. People really are fucking oblivious sometimes. I think you have every right to be annoyed mate.
While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that approach would be in Gary's best interests when it comes to family harmony. That said, I get it.
Gary, you have every right to be pissed, and no, you are not being a baby about it. This sounds like complete bull shit.
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Tell them to fuck off and you're not going. That would piss me off too. The nerve of them just making a decision like that and expect you to be grateful about it. Fuck that. People really are fucking oblivious sometimes. I think you have every right to be annoyed mate.
While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that approach would be in Gary's best interests when it comes to family harmony. That said, I get it.
Gary, you have every right to be pissed, and no, you are not being a baby about it. This sounds like complete bull shit.
Gary, maybe you could bargain for something, like a new truck or something. :lol
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Tell them to fuck off and you're not going. That would piss me off too. The nerve of them just making a decision like that and expect you to be grateful about it. Fuck that. People really are fucking oblivious sometimes. I think you have every right to be annoyed mate.
While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that approach would be in Gary's best interests when it comes to family harmony. That said, I get it.
Gary, you have every right to be pissed, and no, you are not being a baby about it. This sounds like complete bull shit.
Okay, tell them to piss off! :biggrin:
Nah, I get it, sounds like an abrupt approach wouldn't be the best idea. I do think a little forcefullness and putting the foot down is warranted though. Gary still probably has to go, but if I had to go, I'd be letting them know my displeasure.
Although causing some unrest might get him out of it. :biggrin: Nah.....probably don't do that. :lol
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Tell them to fuck off and you're not going. That would piss me off too. The nerve of them just making a decision like that and expect you to be grateful about it. Fuck that. People really are fucking oblivious sometimes. I think you have every right to be annoyed mate.
While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think that approach would be in Gary's best interests when it comes to family harmony. That said, I get it.
Gary, you have every right to be pissed, and no, you are not being a baby about it. This sounds like complete bull shit.
Okay, tell them to piss off! :biggrin:
Nah, I get it, sounds like an abrupt approach wouldn't be the best idea. I do think a little forcefullness and putting the foot down is warranted though. Gary still probably has to go, but if I had to go, I'd be letting them know my displeasure.
Although causing some unrest might get him out of it. :biggrin: Nah.....probably don't do that. :lol
They all know my displeasure. I’ve made it known……they all wait to talk about the trip until I’m not around. I’ll have about 19 panick attacks also on that flight. I get severe motion sickness and in general don’t like to fly. I’ve only done it four times in my life and that was twice for my honeymoon to and from and to and from NY for work years ago. I just don’t see the need to do it unless it’s absolutely necessary. To me it’s a waste of money. Not to mention the odd chance that thing goes down you’re not surviving.
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
I know. I cannot believe the siblings didn’t push back on it. Because, when they told us what was going to happen they hadn’t yet fully paid and refinanced yet. So there was a period of time they could have talked some sense into them. My in laws are both 70…..and had their house paid off for years…..it’s just insane to me that they took out money against it all.
And there’s no way I would stay behind while my wife and three sons went to a different country. Despite all the reassuring from EB and what not in scenarios like that I plan for the worse case….and not being there in case of something going south is not an option. It’s honestly the only reason I’m going…..out of obligation to MY family (wife/sons) not my in laws as I don’t really think it’s fair what they’ve done with this whole thing.
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I hear you Gary, and I don't envy your position. As a dad, I understand not enjoying having no control over situations that involve my kids. Also, the expectation of such a trip with no dialogue would upset me as well.
For a personal narrative, my in-laws go to Hawaii every summer, and book a house for us all to stay in. MiL was born there, and she took my wife and her sister there every summer when they were kids, so it is a longstanding thing with their family. There is an expectation we go with them, which is easy for my wife who doesn't work over the summer. But I have limited time off, and even so it is always an issue about me "selfishly" not wanting to spend all my vacation days on a trip with her family. I've been told I am not grateful for the gift they are giving us. I try to respond that while I appreciate the generosity, it would be nice if I had a little more say in how I spend my vacation. I remember last time there, over the course of 6 days, on one day, MiL said "So Chris, anything you would like to do today?" It stood out to me, as it was the only time anyone asked me that the whole week.
I have no idea what I'd do in your situation. I mean, of course I know, I'd go, just as you are doing. Try to go with good spirits though. I always have to psych myself up for family trip with the inlaws. It's not how a vacation should feel, but if I don't, I'll be a drag on the rest of the family and ruin their enjoyment.
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
I know. I cannot believe the siblings didn’t push back on it. Because, when they told us what was going to happen they hadn’t yet fully paid and refinanced yet. So there was a period of time they could have talked some sense into them. My in laws are both 70…..and had their house paid off for years…..it’s just insane to me that they took out money against it all.
And there’s no way I would stay behind while my wife and three sons went to a different country. Despite all the reassuring from EB and what not in scenarios like that I plan for the worse case….and not being there in case of something going south is not an option. It’s honestly the only reason I’m going…..out of obligation to MY family (wife/sons) not my in laws as I don’t really think it’s fair what they’ve done with this whole thing.
Yeah, my sister and her husband do it all the time. I think they owe more money now than they did when they took the home loan out 15 odd years ago, just absurd.
The second point, yep, of course totally get that. You're a good man Gary. I would do the same, just threw it out there. I guess over there going into a country like Mexico is different over here going down to a different state, so a lot more risk over there by the sounds.
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I hear you Gary, and I don't envy your position. As a dad, I understand not enjoying having no control over situations that involve my kids. Also, the expectation of such a trip with no dialogue would upset me as well.
For a personal narrative, my in-laws go to Hawaii every summer, and book a house for us all to stay in. MiL was born there, and she took my wife and her sister there every summer when they were kids, so it is a longstanding thing with their family. There is an expectation we go with them, which is easy for my wife who doesn't work over the summer. But I have limited time off, and even so it is always an issue about me "selfishly" not wanting to spend all my vacation days on a trip with her family. I've been told I am not grateful for the gift they are giving us. I try to respond that while I appreciate the generosity, it would be nice if I had a little more say in how I spend my vacation. I remember last time there, over the course of 6 days, on one day, MiL said "So Chris, anything you would like to do today?" It stood out to me, as it was the only time anyone asked me that the whole week.
I have no idea what I'd do in your situation. I mean, of course I know, I'd go, just as you are doing. Try to go with good spirits though. I always have to psych myself up for family trip with the inlaws. It's not how a vacation should feel, but if I don't, I'll be a drag on the rest of the family and ruin their enjoyment.
My in laws…..all of them…..Mother, Father, two sisters and brothers are great people. Kind and caring….really a picture perfect type ‘Hollywood movie’ thing going. I always tell my wife she grew up in make believe land because it’s just unreal how ‘perfect’ it all was. To this day my mother and father in law are hand in hand in love. I didn’t see that growing up. So, I need to make sure I get that out there….I’m extremely blessed to have the in laws I have.
That being said……much like you Chris…..99% of the ‘family’ vacations we’ve been on has been with all of them. ALL of them. It’s typically a week and it’s typically a place none of us have a choice in because my MIL and FIL foot the bill….but, it’s always just been places like Gulf Shores or Lake Michigan or something. This was pretty extreme if you ask me just due to the out of country travel.
There’s a reason my all time favorite vacation from two summers ago to Breckinridge is my favorite. It was just me, my wife and three sons. My wife has said a similar thing to me many times when we were on our summer vacation and I was less than thrilled…”can’t you just be grateful?” Of course I am but it takes a freaking toll!!!
I had resolved myself to this trip and pretty much gotten over it until I had to cough up $700 yesterday for luggage and sear assignments on the to and from flights. That got me all charged back up!
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it would be nice if I had a little more say in how I spend my vacation.
That is my single biggest issue when we travel with my in-laws. They ONLY vacation in Panama City Beach, FL. It is the only spot where my mother in law wants to travel to - she loves their beaches. So if we travel with them, we're going there. My father in law is incredibly stubborn when it comes to other details - having to book a condo at the beach vs. a hotel room, demanding a certain type of rental car, and definitely the restaurants we would go to. It drives me crazy to travel with them because I get absolutely no say at all, and like you said, nobody ever asks me what I would like to do.
My wife finally started feeling the same way a few years ago and we stopped traveling with them. We did bring my mother in law with on a driving trip to Panama City Beach and while she enjoyed the few days there, she was miffed that she had to spend 4 days in the back of the SUV with the kids and only 3 days at the beach. She doesn't want to take any other driving trips with us. ::)
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Gary,
Where are you going? Cozumel, Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo...?
Some all inclusive resort in Cancun. I’ll try to find the name of the place and more info.
Most of the resorts in Cancun are really cool. If it's the Palace Moon, there's like 7 fucking restraunts on the propety. You should be able to get in a round of golf or two. Running trails, bike rentals, zip lining, parasailing, scuba lessons, suba adventures, it's all there. I'd also recommend signing up for a bus ride to Chichen Itsa--it's one of the most fascinating places I've ever been.
Make the best of it. Fuck-a-bunch-of whining about bossy parents, that's what they're there for. You want to get back at them? Have the time of your life!
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All of this is the same thing we talk about everywhere else (including P/R): it's about recognizing that other people ARE NOT YOU. Just because YOU like it doesn't mean anyone else will. I'm also not a beach guy. My ideal vacation is sun, and a mix of sitting at a bar outside relaxing and looking at the scenery (whatever that is for you), and seeing things I don't get to see every day. Museums, natural things, etc.
I would have no interest in the beaches of Panama City, for example. I'd bury my face in a book, or a Games puzzle magazine.
And vacation is meant for relaxation; I'd love to ask all these people "Forget about the "where" for a second; how would you feel if YOU had to go on a vacation that gave you five panic attacks? Is that relaxing for you? Why would you expect that's relaxing for ME?"
Look, I'm you, Gary; I don't drive the bus, usually, I have to go with the flow. But I do try to find my moments, find my times.
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When my wife and I were younger, and my Dad and her Mom were still with us, we had a string of 3 or 4 years in a row where my parents took us all (my parents, my wife's parents, my wife and I and our two kids, my brother) on a vacation each summer, footing the largest percentage of bills by themselves (my wife and I weren't at the points in our careers where we could afford to contribute a lot, and my wife's parents were never wealthy people and never took vacations themselves).
Those are, for my entire family, some of our fondest vacation memories that we have, but I think that one reason for that is that even though my parents were paying for everything, they didn't really try to pull rank when deciding what to do each day, or what restaurants to hit up, or what to cook, or anything. They picked the condo, but they were paying for it, and the destination was where we all wanted to be anyway. But all of us had a say in pretty much everything that happened during the vacation. I really miss those times.
But to be clear, it was a completely different situation than what Gary is talking about.
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Gary,
Where are you going? Cozumel, Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo...?
Some all inclusive resort in Cancun. I’ll try to find the name of the place and more info.
Most of the resorts in Cancun are really cool. If it's the Palace Moon, there's like 7 fucking restraunts on the propety. You should be able to get in a round of golf or two. Running trails, bike rentals, zip lining, parasailing, scuba lessons, suba adventures, it's all there. I'd also recommend signing up for a bus ride to Chichen Itsa--it's one of the most fascinating places I've ever been.
Now I feel like taking a trip down there :lol
If you are going to be in Cancun, I would also recommend taking a day trip to Isla Mujeres. It's a short ferry ride from Cancun (15 - 20 mins I think), and there is a lot you can do on the island (Garrafon Park is beautiful). I stayed on the island for 2 weeks the first time I went to Mexico.
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Those are, for my entire family, some of our fondest vacation memories that we have
For sure.....and for the most part.....these vacations that we've been on with them over the years have generated countless cherished memories. It was 'especially special' because the boys were young and each summer was a fun, new time.
Obviously as I've detailed...this vacation/trip is it's own beast.
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
I know. I cannot believe the siblings didn’t push back on it. Because, when they told us what was going to happen they hadn’t yet fully paid and refinanced yet. So there was a period of time they could have talked some sense into them. My in laws are both 70…..and had their house paid off for years…..it’s just insane to me that they took out money against it all.
I'm not trying to push back on this, don't really know the circumstances, but why is this so insane? Sounds to me like if it's their 50th then they're likely in their 70s. If they took out a home equity line of credit or a reverse mortgage then that actually makes some sense to me. Equity isn't actually doing them any good in their Autumn years. It's really only their for their kids to inherit. If they did it right it might be an ideal way for them to be able to make the best of the time they have left, and again, not judging, but I'd be happy for them to do that.
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Those are, for my entire family, some of our fondest vacation memories that we have
For sure.....and for the most part.....these vacations that we've been on with them over the years have generated countless cherished memories. It was 'especially special' because the boys were young and each summer was a fun, new time.
Obviously as I've detailed...this vacation/trip is it's own beast.
My kids were young on those trips as well.
I agree, your situation is not like mine was.
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
I know. I cannot believe the siblings didn’t push back on it. Because, when they told us what was going to happen they hadn’t yet fully paid and refinanced yet. So there was a period of time they could have talked some sense into them. My in laws are both 70…..and had their house paid off for years…..it’s just insane to me that they took out money against it all.
I'm not trying to push back on this, don't really know the circumstances, but why is this so insane? Sounds to me like if it's their 50th then they're likely in their 70s. If they took out a home equity line of credit or a reverse mortgage then that actually makes some sense to me. Equity isn't actually doing them any good in their Autumn years. It's really only their for their kids to inherit. If they did it right it might be an ideal way for them to be able to make the best of the time they have left, and again, not judging, but I'd be happy for them to do that.
I was kinda thinking the same thing. Equity is meaningless on its own. Using to enrich lives by creating moments and memories is exactly what I A) am doing right now with my renovations, and B) what I hope to be able to do in the final years of my life.
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
I know. I cannot believe the siblings didn’t push back on it. Because, when they told us what was going to happen they hadn’t yet fully paid and refinanced yet. So there was a period of time they could have talked some sense into them. My in laws are both 70…..and had their house paid off for years…..it’s just insane to me that they took out money against it all.
I'm not trying to push back on this, don't really know the circumstances, but why is this so insane? Sounds to me like if it's their 50th then they're likely in their 70s. If they took out a home equity line of credit or a reverse mortgage then that actually makes some sense to me. Equity isn't actually doing them any good in their Autumn years. It's really only their for their kids to inherit. If they did it right it might be an ideal way for them to be able to make the best of the time they have left, and again, not judging, but I'd be happy for them to do that.
This is what I think the goal is....and, that's fine. My FIL asked his kids years ago if they'd rather get an inheritance or him and my MIL just keep renting out the places we vacation in the summer. Of course everyone wants to create the memories, including me. I think taking out a $50k loan when they're on a fixed income was the crazy part.
Again.....I may be too far in the weeds on this pertaining to being mad about it due to not having a choice in any of it. Even the last handful of summer vacations it was always a text or email with three or four resorts, air BnB's etc etc for us all to CHOOSE from. Even if they'd just told us "hey....we've rented out rooms at a resort in Arizona" I wouldn't be as upset because it's not in a different country and I can drive to it.
IMO flying to a different country is not something you decide for anyone other than yourself (or those you're the direct guardian of) This is why I'm upset.....so every other aspect of this trip that even remotely smells of an inconvenience to me is going to be magnified 1000x because of how this all went down. Every penny I spend for this trip is a penny in my mind I shouldn't have to be shelling out....I know the stance I've taken on this is rough and I should probably just grow up and deal with it. And I will, as I said....I'll play the part and not ruin it for everyone else who is apparently fine with this all. But I'm a stubborn a$$hole so I don't think any of this will ever get to the point of being 'ok' with me.
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
I know. I cannot believe the siblings didn’t push back on it. Because, when they told us what was going to happen they hadn’t yet fully paid and refinanced yet. So there was a period of time they could have talked some sense into them. My in laws are both 70…..and had their house paid off for years…..it’s just insane to me that they took out money against it all.
I'm not trying to push back on this, don't really know the circumstances, but why is this so insane? Sounds to me like if it's their 50th then they're likely in their 70s. If they took out a home equity line of credit or a reverse mortgage then that actually makes some sense to me. Equity isn't actually doing them any good in their Autumn years. It's really only their for their kids to inherit. If they did it right it might be an ideal way for them to be able to make the best of the time they have left, and again, not judging, but I'd be happy for them to do that.
I was kinda thinking the same thing. Equity is meaningless on its own. Using to enrich lives by creating moments and memories is exactly what I A) am doing right now with my renovations, and B) what I hope to be able to do in the final years of my life.
it's still back to respecting different points of view. Gary doesn't seem to feel enriched right now (that might change). Some people might want the money. I know I'm in a situation with my brother regarding my parents condo; we're not fighting, but if he was here he'd tell you, I can use the cash. Me, well, the equity is going to grow, and I can afford to wait that out. I love my brother, and I'm going to do what's right for BOTH of us - and if we cash out, I'm taking the Jingle route and probably building a detached garage with second floor living space (for my step son now, but for anyone who needs it moving forward), so it's a combination of all these things. Life's complicated! :)
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Everyone here is bringing up good points - fair points. And I completely agree that everyone has a different idea of what makes a great vacation. What is good for me, isn't going to please someone else.
Gary - I am a very anxious traveler myself. I hate flying - not because I'm worried about crashing, but just because I hate being treated like cattle in a shute. And the way some people are behaving on flights these days makes it even worse. But it isn't just that. Being away from home means anxiety about something going wrong at the house while I'm gone. Do I need a house sitter? A pet sitter - another worry, what if something happens to my cats while I'm gone? And honestly, I'm a homebody as I get older. I like my things. I've worked hard for them and just having a few days to relax and move at my own pace without work is a great way (for me) to spend some time.
But I also know another thing about myself. I build shit up into my anxiety ahead of time. But then once I'm there, once the build up has eased and I'm truly there I can find a way to relax and get some down time and 9 times out of 10, I wind up having a great time and I'm glad that I didn't let my fears/anxieties keep me from those times and those memories.
Also, a Xanax in the airport while I'm waiting to board helps a LOT. I'm not a huge fan of drinking on a flight but if you drink at all, I hear a cocktail can also help with that. Every year when I have my annual exam I mention my travel anxiety and I get 10 Xanax. This is nothing. So you might ask your primary doctor for a script. Just don't mix it with alcohol.
I've been to Cancun many times. We had a time share there for a short period before the pandemic. Big all inclusive resort with all sorts of onsight activity, bars, restaurants, and the beach. I never felt afraid there. We were treated like royalty. We did go off site during the day for some tours and sight seeing but were always with a group that the resort set up for us. It was great and even though getting there was a bitch, being there was like being in paradise.
That said, I would not be volunteering for childcare duties on my vacation. No f-ing way. YMMV
I hope it works out better than you anticipate and I look forward to reading about it when you get home. Enjoy a margarita for me. I prefer Herradura tequila. ;)
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Everyone here is bringing up good points - fair points. And I completely agree that everyone has a different idea of what makes a great vacation. What is good for me, isn't going to please someone else.
Gary - I am a very anxious traveler myself. I hate flying - not because I'm worried about crashing, but just because I hate being treated like cattle in a shute. And the way some people are behaving on flights these days makes it even worse. But it isn't just that. Being away from home means anxiety about something going wrong at the house while I'm gone. Do I need a house sitter? A pet sitter - another worry, what if something happens to my cats while I'm gone? And honestly, I'm a homebody as I get older. I like my things. I've worked hard for them and just having a few days to relax and move at my own pace without work is a great way (for me) to spend some time.
But I also know another thing about myself. I build shit up into my anxiety ahead of time. But then once I'm there, once the build up has eased and I'm truly there I can find a way to relax and get some down time and 9 times out of 10, I wind up having a great time and I'm glad that I didn't let my fears/anxieties keep me from those times and those memories.
Also, a Xanax in the airport while I'm waiting to board helps a LOT. I'm not a huge fan of drinking on a flight but if you drink at all, I hear a cocktail can also help with that. Every year when I have my annual exam I mention my travel anxiety and I get 10 Xanax. This is nothing. So you might ask your primary doctor for a script. Just don't mix it with alcohol.
I've been to Cancun many times. We had a time share there for a short period before the pandemic. Big all inclusive resort with all sorts of onsight activity, bars, restaurants, and the beach. I never felt afraid there. We were treated like royalty. We did go off site during the day for some tours and sight seeing but were always with a group that the resort set up for us. It was great and even though getting there was a bitch, being there was like being in paradise.
That said, I would not be volunteering for childcare duties on my vacation. No f-ing way. YMMV
I hope it works out better than you anticipate and I look forward to reading about it when you get home. Enjoy a margarita for me. I prefer Herradura tequila. ;)
Well....I'm coming up on 15 years sober so I can't utilize the alcohol approach.... :lol I'd probably steer clear of the xanax as well because of my history with alcohol and what not....but, I do appreciate the other tid bits of advice. I'm sure it'll be a great trip and a good time will be had. I know these resorts are big business for Mexico and the drug cartel leaders who wash their money there so I'm sure that it'll be more or less safe. Again, it's not really the trip itself that I have an issue with....this really does just boil down to me not even being given a choice in the matter when this affects my family. That's what got my blood boiling.
As far as flying....I'll take a dramamine and hope that I don't get too sick and I'm sure I'll ward off multiple panic attacks but hey....whatever. It's only a four hour flight :lol
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I was going to mention the Xanax, myself, but I don't think Gary's a pharmaceutical kind of guy. Also, when I first got a script for Xanax I asked my doctor what it was going to do to me, and he said it was going to be about the same relaxation as drinking a nice glass of scotch. When I asked him "why not just drink a nice glass of scotch" he said "Yeah, do that too!" :lol Obviously it depends on how the Alprazalam will effect you, but for my part it has no discernible effect, rather than knocking down any stress or anxiety I might have, and ensuring that I sleep well that night.
As for motion sickness, just make sure and get a window seat. It's worst when you're taxiing and being able to see level ground helps a great deal. In the air the clouds are relaxing, and being able to see when you bank also helps. Having the visual clues match what your ears sense makes a big difference.
edit: For what it's worth, so long as you don't take it as the doctor prescribes (one a day for thirty days) it's not addictive at all. I get a 30 day (pill) supply about once a year and take it pretty infrequently. You really don't know you've taken anything, so it's not like you're clamouring to repeat the experience.
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Gary, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were sober. That wasn't very considerate of me. :heart
I too get horrible motion sickness sometimes, so EB's advice is spot on. But I admit, if I took a Dramamine I'd sleep for 48 hours, which might be preferable than puking but not a way I'd want to spend the first part of my vacation. I'm super sensitive to that drug though, not everyone is. I mostly just hope for a flight without much turbulence.
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There's only 1 choice left Gary.
An ACME mallet.
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Gary, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were sober. That wasn't very considerate of me. :heart
I too get horrible motion sickness sometimes, so EB's advice is spot on. But I admit, if I took a Dramamine I'd sleep for 48 hours, which might be preferable than puking but not a way I'd want to spend the first part of my vacation. I'm super sensitive to that drug though, not everyone is. I mostly just hope for a flight without much turbulence.
No worries at all Harmony!
I did select a window seat for myself to and from, although I'm sure I'll trade out with one of the boys for a bit so they can experience it all as well. The last flight I was on was returning to StL from NY and we flew over/near a storm that actually spawned a tornado in StL. From what I was told by other passengers who flew a lot we experienced some bad turbulence AND I got to take part in what I was also told was the roughest landing others had bene a part of. The nose of the plane bounced a handful of times as well landed....like we just slammed into the ground. So...that was fun :lol
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There's only 1 choice left Gary.
An ACME mallet.
That'll be day three of the trip :lol
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Also, a Xanax in the airport while I'm waiting to board helps a LOT. I'm not a huge fan of drinking on a flight but if you drink at all, I hear a cocktail can also help with that. Every year when I have my annual exam I mention my travel anxiety and I get 10 Xanax. This is nothing. So you might ask your primary doctor for a script. Just don't mix it with alcohol.
I know Gary is sober, but the xanax or have a drink thing apparently helps A LOT of people. I was pretty anti-drinking before a flight for awhile, just because I figure it would make me have to pee on the flight and I thought turbulence wouldn't mix well with a buzz. But it's taken many many flights and I finally come around to be able to not really care about turbulence or using the bathroom. My last trip to Amsterdam had a 4 hour delay and I got wasted in the lounge before boarding that flight and it was a fantastic experience :lol but there's no way I would have ever done that in the past. Typically though, I still don't like to drink, I'd rather just pass the time by sleeping so I take a double dose of zquil and knock out for most of a 5 hour flight.
One mental trick I have always done (and continue to do) if I do feel that unease during a flight is look at the flight attendants. They never flinch from the turbulence. You'll see them acting as if all is normal and it would make me feel calm about the situation. Even when they put the seatbelt sign on. The attendants don't sit, they continue working and all is fine. If it gets really bad they'll ask the attendants to sit too, but if you can see their seats, you'll see how calm they are still.
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When my wife was pregnant, she wore the motion sickness wristbands to help with nausea. I'd recommend those!
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One mental trick I have always done (and continue to do) if I do feel that unease during a flight is look at the flight attendants. They never flinch from the turbulence. You'll see them acting as if all is normal and it would make me feel calm about the situation. Even when they put the seatbelt sign on. The attendants don't sit, they continue working and all is fine. If it gets really bad they'll ask the attendants to sit too, but if you can see their seats, you'll see how calm they are still.
I flew BA once to Berlin, and it was the most constantly turbulent flight I've ever been on. Tossing and turning the whole way. While we're coming straight in on final a lady up front started barfing into the little bag, and one of those plucky BA flight attendants bounded all the way from the back to front to toss her a bottle of water. She was literally bounding side to side 4 rows at a time to get there and back. That woman was a real pro. Nothing spooks those gals.
I've honestly started to enjoy weather-adventuresome flights. As soon as it dawned on me that the pilots don't generally want to die, and aren't going to do anything stupid, I figure anything we come up on is probably just routine for them. Popping out of a 400' ceiling just short of the threshold is a hoot. I flew into EWR with a 30kt crosswind to see the Score show and loved it (the Arab gentleman next to me was white as snow :lol). My favorite was the Expressway Visual approach into LGA with a robust crosswind, and I swear we were a third of the way down the runway before he leveled off. I was expecting a go-around, but he eventually nailed it. Pilots aren't daredevils, and what's uncommon for us is normal for them. Same with the FAs.
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I've only flown a handful of times, and one (on the way back from our honeymoon in Key West to Miami) was right through a storm with extremely heavy turbulence.
It was a little unsettling to me, but everyone working on the plane was fine with it, and I must admit, I found it a bit exhilarating.
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One mental trick I have always done (and continue to do) if I do feel that unease during a flight is look at the flight attendants. They never flinch from the turbulence. You'll see them acting as if all is normal and it would make me feel calm about the situation. Even when they put the seatbelt sign on. The attendants don't sit, they continue working and all is fine. If it gets really bad they'll ask the attendants to sit too, but if you can see their seats, you'll see how calm they are still.
I flew BA once to Berlin, and it was the most constantly turbulent flight I've ever been on. Tossing and turning the whole way. While we're coming straight in on final a lady up front started barfing into the little bag, and one of those plucky BA flight attendants bounded all the way from the back to front to toss her a bottle of water. She was literally bounding side to side 4 rows at a time to get there and back. That woman was a real pro. Nothing spooks those gals.
I've honestly started to enjoy weather-adventuresome flights. As soon as it dawned on me that the pilots don't generally want to die, and aren't going to do anything stupid, I figure anything we come up on is probably just routine for them. Popping out of a 400' ceiling just short of the threshold is a hoot. I flew into EWR with a 30kt crosswind to see the Score show and loved it (the Arab gentleman next to me was white as snow :lol). My favorite was the Expressway Visual approach into LGA with a robust crosswind, and I swear we were a third of the way down the runway before he leveled off. I was expecting a go-around, but he eventually nailed it. Pilots aren't daredevils, and what's uncommon for us is normal for them. Same with the FAs.
LaGuardia is the gift that keeps on giving. I've been flying through there a lot lately, it seems, and other than the (sometimes) long walk between gates, it's fun.
I fly a lot, and have little trouble flying. Except for first thing in the morning flights, I probably have a glass of wine or a vodka about 75% of the time, but it really is only to take the very edge off.
I am a lot like Harmony, though; I just don't want to go, simple as that. I LIKE where I live, I have FUN where I live and more often than not, flying somewhere is a chore simply because it means I can't do the things I do with the people I like doing them with.
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One mental trick I have always done (and continue to do) if I do feel that unease during a flight is look at the flight attendants. They never flinch from the turbulence. You'll see them acting as if all is normal and it would make me feel calm about the situation. Even when they put the seatbelt sign on. The attendants don't sit, they continue working and all is fine. If it gets really bad they'll ask the attendants to sit too, but if you can see their seats, you'll see how calm they are still.
I flew BA once to Berlin, and it was the most constantly turbulent flight I've ever been on. Tossing and turning the whole way. While we're coming straight in on final a lady up front started barfing into the little bag, and one of those plucky BA flight attendants bounded all the way from the back to front to toss her a bottle of water. She was literally bounding side to side 4 rows at a time to get there and back. That woman was a real pro. Nothing spooks those gals.
I've honestly started to enjoy weather-adventuresome flights. As soon as it dawned on me that the pilots don't generally want to die, and aren't going to do anything stupid, I figure anything we come up on is probably just routine for them. Popping out of a 400' ceiling just short of the threshold is a hoot. I flew into EWR with a 30kt crosswind to see the Score show and loved it (the Arab gentleman next to me was white as snow :lol). My favorite was the Expressway Visual approach into LGA with a robust crosswind, and I swear we were a third of the way down the runway before he leveled off. I was expecting a go-around, but he eventually nailed it. Pilots aren't daredevils, and what's uncommon for us is normal for them. Same with the FAs.
LaGuardia is the gift that keeps on giving. I've been flying through there a lot lately, it seems, and other than the (sometimes) long walk between gates, it's fun.
If they'd just link everything it'd be great. The concourse is very nice, as are the new terminals. The problem is the Bataan death march to get to the shuttle buses just to take you to a different terminal for the rental car shuttles. They need some kind of monorail linking all of the terminals, and from what I can tell that was never in the master plan. And honestly, I have no idea why they chose the marine terminal as the dropoff point. The shuttle from there to the actual airline terminals is godawful. Seems they massively upgraded the airport proper, but ignored the worst thing about it which was the inconvenience of actually getting there.
And I love a good visual approach, and the expressway visual is one of my favorites. I always make sure and pick my seat based on what approach I want.
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Atlanta is brutal. It is so big and you can get lost fast the 1st few times you fly in.
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I have only flown three or four times in my entire life, and one of them was a lot of fun when arriving back in STL. I must have had sinus drainage or something, because the last 10 minutes of the descent into the STL airport felt like someone was stabbing me with about 300 knives right around my right eye and the area below it and into my upper jaw. It went away once we landed, but that area felt all puffy and weird for a few days after that. That's an experience I hope to never have again.
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Refinancing the house though is the most absurd and irresponsible thing ever IMO. If you can't afford it, you don't go. That blows my mind.
I've just kinda skimmed all the responses so not sure if its been mentioned my apologies but you can't yourself just not go and do a home alone?
I know. I cannot believe the siblings didn’t push back on it. Because, when they told us what was going to happen they hadn’t yet fully paid and refinanced yet. So there was a period of time they could have talked some sense into them. My in laws are both 70…..and had their house paid off for years…..it’s just insane to me that they took out money against it all.
I'm not trying to push back on this, don't really know the circumstances, but why is this so insane? Sounds to me like if it's their 50th then they're likely in their 70s. If they took out a home equity line of credit or a reverse mortgage then that actually makes some sense to me. Equity isn't actually doing them any good in their Autumn years. It's really only their for their kids to inherit. If they did it right it might be an ideal way for them to be able to make the best of the time they have left, and again, not judging, but I'd be happy for them to do that.
I can understand that and never really thought of it that way. I guess in turn it's a trade off for quality time vs less inheritance for the children. Fair point.
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I just don't want to go, simple as that. I LIKE where I live, I have FUN where I live and more often than not, flying somewhere is a chore simply because it means I can't do the things I do with the people I like doing them with.
This is where I am at in my life. I work hard 40 hours a week, and add in kid drop-offs and pick-ups at school and all their activities. Our home costs money, both in the mortgage and all the work we have done to it over the years, and continue to do. Then factor in all the stuff we have at home for the kids to play with. And all my wife can think about is "Hey, let's go somewhere!" And I can't help but think "but we have all this stuff here in our wonderful house, and so many things to do within a short drive, and we really spending too much time in our home...?"
Just the other day summer came up, and she said "Well I imagine (meaning her and the kids) will spend 2 weeks in Hawaii (with her family) and 2 weeks in CO (with her family)... That's 4 weeks, basically half the summer for the kids, away from home, in the same 2 places they go every summer. I get that it's her family she wants to spend time with. It's just a philosophy she and I are never going to converge on.
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I like where I live, too. But I also love visiting other places.
Of course, I no longer have little kids to deal with.
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I think there's a lot to learn from traveling that it could be beneficial for children to go a bit further than a drive from home. But I understand it's also a hassle and costly. I'm not a parent, I have no idea how hard it likely is.
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I think there's a lot to learn from traveling that it could be beneficial for children to go a bit further than a drive from home. But I understand it's also a hassle and costly. I'm not a parent, I have no idea how hard it likely is.
After a certain age it's not really a 'hassle'. But, where you're in that infant to say 3-4 yrs old range.....man.....they 'need' something to be done for them non stop and/or they're creating something that needs to be done for them. It is what it is, it's something you sign on for when you deicide to be a parent.
But, when you're 'out' of that phase of parenting it's nice and it's tough to go back to. At least for me it is. My wife on the other hand loves it and if she/we could have we'd have had kid after kid after kid....
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I think there's a lot to learn from traveling that it could be beneficial for children to go a bit further than a drive from home. But I understand it's also a hassle and costly. I'm not a parent, I have no idea how hard it likely is.
After a certain age it's not really a 'hassle'. But, where you're in that infant to say 3-4 yrs old range.....man.....they 'need' something to be done for them non stop and/or they're creating something that needs to be done for them. It is what it is, it's something you sign on for when you deicide to be a parent.
But, when you're 'out' of that phase of parenting it's nice and it's tough to go back to. At least for me it is. My wife on the other hand loves it and if she/we could have we'd have had kid after kid after kid....
I'm with you on all of that. From the ages at which travel changes to going back. I have an 18-month-old step grandson and there are times where Grampa Bill is the primary care-giver and it's just hard to pivot to sussing out what the grunts and cries are, managing the 9-second attention spans, and of course, the diapers.
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I think there's a lot to learn from traveling that it could be beneficial for children to go a bit further than a drive from home. But I understand it's also a hassle and costly. I'm not a parent, I have no idea how hard it likely is.
After a certain age it's not really a 'hassle'. But, where you're in that infant to say 3-4 yrs old range.....man.....they 'need' something to be done for them non stop and/or they're creating something that needs to be done for them. It is what it is, it's something you sign on for when you deicide to be a parent.
But, when you're 'out' of that phase of parenting it's nice and it's tough to go back to. At least for me it is. My wife on the other hand loves it and if she/we could have we'd have had kid after kid after kid....
I'm with you on all of that. From the ages at which travel changes to going back. I have an 18-month-old step grandson and there are times where Grampa Bill is the primary care-giver and it's just hard to pivot to sussing out what the grunts and cries are, managing the 9-second attention spans, and of course, the diapers.
When we're around my SIL and they're twin three year olds.....it's brutal to watch :lol They're in to EVERYTHING....just from one thing to the next.....it's hilarious and exhausting just watching. My oldest and middle sons were 17 months apart and for a period of time we'd be asked if they were twins....so....I recall those days of both of them just 'needing' everything. It is no joke when you're in the thick of raising toddlers.
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I think there's a lot to learn from traveling that it could be beneficial for children to go a bit further than a drive from home. But I understand it's also a hassle and costly. I'm not a parent, I have no idea how hard it likely is.
After a certain age it's not really a 'hassle'. But, where you're in that infant to say 3-4 yrs old range.....man.....they 'need' something to be done for them non stop and/or they're creating something that needs to be done for them. It is what it is, it's something you sign on for when you deicide to be a parent.
But, when you're 'out' of that phase of parenting it's nice and it's tough to go back to. At least for me it is. My wife on the other hand loves it and if she/we could have we'd have had kid after kid after kid....
I'm with you on all of that. From the ages at which travel changes to going back. I have an 18-month-old step grandson and there are times where Grampa Bill is the primary care-giver and it's just hard to pivot to sussing out what the grunts and cries are, managing the 9-second attention spans, and of course, the diapers.
This is exactly where my wife and I are at with our kids at nearly 4 and 1.5 years. Even just getting out of the house for a walk or a trip to the store is a production. Water bottles, snacks, toys/books, diaper bag… and traveling even more so. We’re planning a trip to the Wallowa Mountains in northeast Oregon in September, and the first day is going to be a 9-10 hour drive. Could be okay, but could also really be brutal depending on the mood of the day, or even hour.
And you’re right, Stadler. The guessing game of what your 18 month old wants can get exhausting (along with their meltdowns when you get it wrong). Holy shit, I can’t wait until mine can articulate things more clearly than “Wawawa?”
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So to put this in context, I'm about 2 years away from retirement. But depending on the day, I'm about 2 minutes from retirement.
So last week, my team gets an email from our immediate supervisor that her supervisor is now going to demand we keep our calendars marked out to 30 minute increments. So basically, we are being micromanaged for some unknown reason. I mean, I've only been doing my job for nearly 30 years and have never had a problem with productivity so sure....let's fuck with what is already working.
At any rate...not only am I not doing it. I'm not telling anyone that I'm not doing it. It is like a science experiment to me. I want to see what happens and who is going to talk to me about not doing it. Should be fun.
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So to put this in context, I'm about 2 years away from retirement. But depending on the day, I'm about 2 minutes from retirement.
So last week, my team gets an email from our immediate supervisor that her supervisor is now going to demand we keep our calendars marked out to 30 minute increments. So basically, we are being micromanaged for some unknown reason. I mean, I've only been doing my job for nearly 30 years and have never had a problem with productivity so sure....let's fuck with what is already working.
At any rate...not only am I not doing it. I'm not telling anyone that I'm not doing it. It is like a science experiment to me. I want to see what happens and who is going to talk to me about not doing it. Should be fun.
Good for you. I would do the exact same thing if I were in your shoes.
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Yeah, I would bristle at that myself.
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "we keep our calendars marked out to 30 minute increments" Like your calendar has to be completely full?
But if you are going to test your limits against micromanagement, I applaud that.
We had a "mandatory" culture training last week. I put it in quotes because in no notification was it ever stated to be mandatory but my boss said they were taking attendance so he basically voluntold us to attend. It was an interactive meeting where they broke the ~100 person meeting into groups of 4 for discussions. I completely stayed silent with video off for the entire meeting and all group discussions :lol and signed my name as attending at the end. I don't like games like this. That was also a complete waste of 2 hours. They could have at least presented something new and unique, not the same "what makes you feel connected to your job?" type questions that are pure cheese and not expanding on culture at all.
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So to put this in context, I'm about 2 years away from retirement. But depending on the day, I'm about 2 minutes from retirement.
So last week, my team gets an email from our immediate supervisor that her supervisor is now going to demand we keep our calendars marked out to 30 minute increments. So basically, we are being micromanaged for some unknown reason. I mean, I've only been doing my job for nearly 30 years and have never had a problem with productivity so sure....let's fuck with what is already working.
At any rate...not only am I not doing it. I'm not telling anyone that I'm not doing it. It is like a science experiment to me. I want to see what happens and who is going to talk to me about not doing it. Should be fun.
I'm just glad you're not a cop. That first sentence would've been a terrible omen.
But yea, I had to do that when the job I was at at the time switched to home when the COVID shut down happened. I was working for a state university and they decided that they didn't trust the employees to ACTUALLY do work from home despite the mandate so we had to hand in work-logs every week that accounted for every hour of the day. Luckily our supervisors hated the idea too and told us what to use to fill in the hours we weren't doing anything super productive.
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I guess I am lucky in that a) my boss does not micromanage us, and b) if we do have to work from home, our operation system we use makes it easy to see who is working and who is not (he has access to see who is doing what). Most of us he trusts to do the right thing, but there will always be a knob or two. A few years ago when we were let go home around lunch time to work from home the rest of the day (it was starting to snow like mad), two co-workers literally did nothing the rest of the day when they got home and were forced to take 4 hours of vacation/PT for not working. Nimrods. (neither is with us anymore)
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I can't tell you how many times my job has attempted to make us fill out time cards over the last 24 years. Every time it has been introduced it has lasted all of about a year or less and management says to just stop as they are getting nothing out of it. Of course, the last time they attempted this I was the one that built out the time card app on my platform. Always makes me feel good to put a ton of work into something only to have it abandoned rather quickly.
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "we keep our calendars marked out to 30 minute increments" Like your calendar has to be completely full?
Exactly. If I'm making calls or working on documents I have to put that down on my calendar. If I'm driving to a meeting, I have to put that down "driving to meeting". What is challenging for me is that my day can look one way in the morning and be completely different by afternoon. I'm constantly shuffling tasks around on the fly with the exception of staff meetings which are routine. So taking the time to stop and adjust my calendar every time it changes is going to take time away from the tasks I NEED to get done. And my productivity suffers.
Maybe if this goes the way I think it might, I'll put down "walking to bathroom to piss" and see how that plays. :P
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“Feminine hygiene malfunction” ought to raise some discomfort. Put that in every day for a month, and see who has the stones to ask any questions. Or if you’re feeling particularly spicy, “hummer in the closet”
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "we keep our calendars marked out to 30 minute increments" Like your calendar has to be completely full?
Exactly. If I'm making calls or working on documents I have to put that down on my calendar. If I'm driving to a meeting, I have to put that down "driving to meeting". What is challenging for me is that my day can look one way in the morning and be completely different by afternoon. I'm constantly shuffling tasks around on the fly with the exception of staff meetings which are routine. So taking the time to stop and adjust my calendar every time it changes is going to take time away from the tasks I NEED to get done. And my productivity suffers.
Maybe if this goes the way I think it might, I'll put down "walking to bathroom to piss" and see how that plays. :P
Don't conform to that, no fucking way.
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I think I'd be tempted to put in, "filling out TPS reports".
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Coming from my field, I get it if we're trying to bill customers/clients. But in terms of just "management", it's a failed strategy. Sort of symptomatic of something I said in P/R, but we have this perception that EVERYTHING is recorded somewhere, and the reality is, it's not. Not always.
(I forget who said it, but one thing I wouldn't do: use "pre-agreed" entries for "when we're not busy". Call me paranoid, but if it ever came down to a situation where headcount was an issue, I'd hate to be the one with more "pre-agreed" entries.)
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I think I'd be tempted to put in, "filling out TPS reports".
I would definitely be doing this.
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "we keep our calendars marked out to 30 minute increments" Like your calendar has to be completely full?
Exactly. If I'm making calls or working on documents I have to put that down on my calendar. If I'm driving to a meeting, I have to put that down "driving to meeting". What is challenging for me is that my day can look one way in the morning and be completely different by afternoon. I'm constantly shuffling tasks around on the fly with the exception of staff meetings which are routine. So taking the time to stop and adjust my calendar every time it changes is going to take time away from the tasks I NEED to get done. And my productivity suffers.
Maybe if this goes the way I think it might, I'll put down "walking to bathroom to piss" and see how that plays. :P
Oof, that's terrible and wreaks of a distrusting management
I think I'd be tempted to put in, "filling out TPS reports".
Not only is that funny, it sounds completely legit. I'd throw a 30 minute block every day for that alone. It makes a point and it sounds even honest because if you have to constantly shuffle and make sure the calendar is accurate, that time accrues over the course of a day to become meaningful and well, they asked for it.
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I think I'd be tempted to put in, "filling out TPS reports".
Not only is that funny, it sounds completely legit. I'd throw a 30 minute block every day for that alone. It makes a point and it sounds even honest because if you have to constantly shuffle and make sure the calendar is accurate, that time accrues over the course of a day to become meaningful and well, they asked for it.
Exactly. Nothing wrong with recapping your day and noting it in your last 30 minute block of the day.
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I think I'd be tempted to put in, "filling out TPS reports".
Not only is that funny, it sounds completely legit. I'd throw a 30 minute block every day for that alone. It makes a point and it sounds even honest because if you have to constantly shuffle and make sure the calendar is accurate, that time accrues over the course of a day to become meaningful and well, they asked for it.
Exactly. Nothing wrong with recapping your day and noting it in your last 30 minute block of the day.
The problem with that is that it'd necessitate making the other 15 blocks legit.
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So to put this in context, I'm about 2 years away from retirement. But depending on the day, I'm about 2 minutes from retirement.
I'm pretty much in the same boat give or take a couple of years/minutes. My goal is to retire early at 60 (3years). Could be sooner than that the way things are going. Went to see my financial advisor last week. Good to go in 3 years or less. So yeah, I give less than a fuck about work these days.
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I can't wait until I reach the point of financial independence, realistically probably around 60 for me. It will be so freeing the day I can work because I want to and not because I have to. I would love to "retire" by just walking out and quitting when my boss is being an ass or asking me to do something ridiculous.
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Yeah, gotta get my ducks in a row before I pick the date to retire. But honestly? If our stupid-ass country had universal healthcare, I'd have retired years ago. The only thing stopping me at this point is having to pay for health insurance until I'm eligible for Medicare. My friend is a hair salon owner and she's 61. She's paying over $1K a month for her insurance, and prices are going up. I can't even fathom doing that.
Once we are back from vacation, we are meeting with our financial planner to start the process of retirement planning.
On another note, I have my weekly meeting with my direct supervisor tomorrow morning. I'm looking forward to seeing if she brings up the calendar thing. I kind of think she won't, but we shall see. I'm not sayin a thing about it unless she does first. :angel: :P
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Yeah, gotta get my ducks in a row before I pick the date to retire. But honestly? If our stupid-ass country had universal healthcare, I'd have retired years ago. The only thing stopping me at this point is having to pay for health insurance until I'm eligible for Medicare.
My early retirement plan includes a certain amount of income per month after the mortgage and medical insurance are already paid. It's a nice buffer not having to worry about that. :tup
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Meeting with my supervisor today was uneventful. The topic of calendars never came up. I have one more week before a nice vacation. Hopefully by the time I get back the whole thing will be a nothingburger.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/four-killed-in-beach-shooting-at-mexico-vacation-mecca/ar-AA19tiCC?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=9b2d24a10a514591866df3aa2e1c7f3a&ei=71
I wouldn't go, Gary. This article says another American was shot in Cancun last week as well.
Fuck that.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/four-killed-in-beach-shooting-at-mexico-vacation-mecca/ar-AA19tiCC?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=9b2d24a10a514591866df3aa2e1c7f3a&ei=71
I wouldn't go, Gary. This article says another American was shot in Cancun last week as well.
Fuck that.
I wish it were they easy. And, in nearly every other aspect of my life I’ll do what’s in my gut no matter who it pisses off. This circumstance is just on another level….I’m basically stuck.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/four-killed-in-beach-shooting-at-mexico-vacation-mecca/ar-AA19tiCC?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=9b2d24a10a514591866df3aa2e1c7f3a&ei=71
I wouldn't go, Gary. This article says another American was shot in Cancun last week as well.
Fuck that.
I wish it were they easy. And, in nearly every other aspect of my life I’ll do what’s in my gut no matter who it pisses off. This circumstance is just on another level….I’m basically stuck.
Are you able to bring your gun with you? I know you've said in the past that you will not visit any other states where you can't have your gun.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/four-killed-in-beach-shooting-at-mexico-vacation-mecca/ar-AA19tiCC?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=9b2d24a10a514591866df3aa2e1c7f3a&ei=71
I wouldn't go, Gary. This article says another American was shot in Cancun last week as well.
Fuck that.
I wish it were they easy. And, in nearly every other aspect of my life I’ll do what’s in my gut no matter who it pisses off. This circumstance is just on another level….I’m basically stuck.
Are you able to bring your gun with you? I know you've said in the past that you will not visit any other states where you can't have your gun.
I don’t think there’s any way to do that. Get it in a plane and take it. I’d have better luck just buying one down there :lol
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What the fuck? You wouldn't venture to another state without your gun? Man things are so different over there.
Drug and cartel-related violence has skyrocketed across Mexico as authorities struggle to combat organized crime.
The U.S. State Department has issued a travel advisory for Americans vising Mexico, warning them to "exercise increased caution due to crime and kidnapping."
Yeah, that would be enough for me to put my foot down and go.....'yeah, nah, we're not going aye.'
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Because trying to shoot it out with the cartel is a great idea.
The problem isn't getting the gun down there. People have done that by accident. The problem is that the penalties for unlawful possession of a gun down there are hardcore. If you're associated with the cartel you simply buy your way out of it. If you're a gringo you don't have that option and you spend a lot of time in a Mexican prison. If you do find yourself armed down there the longstanding legal advice is to throw the thing as far as you can into the ocean and forget you ever owned a gun. Replacement cost is a tiny fraction of the cost of being caught with it.
In other news, two Americans were killed in New Haven, CT over the weekend. Two more in Georgia. I'm oft fascinated by the human condition, and how people behave under various circumstances. People's inability to grasp perspective is a big one that I marvel at it all the time. People just suck at risk assessment. The reality is that the most dangerous part of his trip might very well be the drive to and from STL. Maybe developing melanoma. A rational person should be able to have a fine time in Cancun by simply following common sense.
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I get that. Chances of a car crash are way higher than getting shot, plus it's the media. It would just perhaps give some leverage to get out if the trip, that's all.
However, I only know what's posted here, it would still make me cautious about it.
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One last night in Manchester, N.H. People are not afraid to blast away vs police. I'm amazed how many times I've said this to myself.
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Because trying to shoot it out with the cartel is a great idea.
The problem isn't getting the gun down there. People have done that by accident. The problem is that the penalties for unlawful possession of a gun down there are hardcore. If you're associated with the cartel you simply buy your way out of it. If you're a gringo you don't have that option and you spend a lot of time in a Mexican prison. If you do find yourself armed down there the longstanding legal advice is to throw the thing as far as you can into the ocean and forget you ever owned a gun. Replacement cost is a tiny fraction of the cost of being caught with it.
In other news, two Americans were killed in New Haven, CT over the weekend. Two more in Georgia. I'm oft fascinated by the human condition, and how people behave under various circumstances. People's inability to grasp perspective is a big one that I marvel at it all the time. People just suck at risk assessment. The reality is that the most dangerous part of his trip might very well be the drive to and from STL. Maybe developing melanoma. A rational person should be able to have a fine time in Cancun by simply following common sense.
That is all true of course (how many times have I recommended the book "How Risky Is It?" by Dave Ropeik, where he talks about exactly that concept) but to add to it, it's amazing that so many people DON'T see the connection between the above and the events like the Angel Reese/Caitlyn Clark episode, or the palpable thirst for vengeance we're seeing, the veritable GLEE, around the Trump episode. We've devolved into a society that just can't help/control itself. Just walk the fuck away, man. It's not that hard, and yet... it seems impossible.
The last THREE times I drove (I don't leave the house much) - to get gas in my truck, to watch Uconn at my friends house, and to pick up food for dinner last night - I got "the finger" from some driver. One of them - the Uconn game - I'll allow I might have been following a little close, as I was hurrying to get there. The other two - by way of example, my truck is a 2003 diesel plow truck with rusted floor boards and over 300,000 miles on it; I wasn't speeding and I wasn't tailgating - are more likely people who can't deal with a scenario that isn't their PERFECT scenario and yet who have a keyboard warrior mentality towards others. Add to that mix a preference towards "Fuck you" about the law, and you have a recipe for violence, gun or otherwise (that New Haven incident almost CERTAINLY involved at least two other felonies besides the shooting).
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What the fuck? You wouldn't venture to another state without your gun?
It's all about preparedness. Not 'fear'. It's being ready for the .01% chance that a situation would arise that one may need a weapon. I've said it countless times in the P/R subforum and in other threads.....I view it as a responsibility to my family as a father and husband to be ready to protect them at all times to the best of my ability. It's that simple. It doesn't mean I think that other fathers and husbands who don't carry a weapon are 'doing it wrong'.....this is just a personal choice by me.
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The reality is that the most dangerous part of his trip might very well be the drive to and from STL. Maybe developing melanoma. A rational person should be able to have a fine time in Cancun by simply following common sense.
Well....8 of the top ten most dangerous cities in the world are Mexican cities....BUT.....St. Louis comes in at #10 :lol While I get the point you're trying to make it doesn't change the fact that Mexico....especially at this moment in time....is a pretty risky trip to take. I 'think' everything will go fine and it'll be much to do about nothing....but again, my original point was that I was given zero say in a decision that affects my family. I'll always be pissed about any situation like that no matter the destination.
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https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/mexico-travel-advisory.html
Here is the official US travel advisory for Mexico. Assuming Cancun is the destination (Quintana Roo state), it's not among the top areas to avoid.
Just use common sense. You can be tourists during the daytime and stay on main roads. If you're with your family, you can stay at the resort at night instead of taking in the night-life and being out after dark.
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What the fuck? You wouldn't venture to another state without your gun? Man things are so different over there.
Drug and cartel-related violence has skyrocketed across Mexico as authorities struggle to combat organized crime.
The U.S. State Department has issued a travel advisory for Americans vising Mexico, warning them to "exercise increased caution due to crime and kidnapping."
Yeah, that would be enough for me to put my foot down and go.....'yeah, nah, we're not going aye.'
As much as I respect Gary's gun usage and know/trust that he is following the law and being safe, I very much think his fear is uncalled for. I would not use him as an example of what America is like in terms of guns although that is likely the image America presents itself to foreigners about how we love our guns and need to be worried about being shot. I would be an exact opposite example where I don't own guns and never have considered buying one, let alone be in public with one.
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https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/mexico-travel-advisory.html
Here is the official US travel advisory for Mexico. Assuming Cancun is the destination (Quintana Roo state), it's not among the top areas to avoid.
Just use common sense. You can be tourists during the daytime and stay on main roads. If you're with your family, you can stay at the resort at night instead of taking in the night-life and being out after dark.
The only time my family will be off resort is to and from the airport. That I can ‘control’. Cancun has nothing to offer that we can’t get at the resort.
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The reality is that the most dangerous part of his trip might very well be the drive to and from STL. Maybe developing melanoma. A rational person should be able to have a fine time in Cancun by simply following common sense.
Well....8 of the top ten most dangerous cities in the world are Mexican cities....BUT.....St. Louis comes in at #10 :lol While I get the point you're trying to make it doesn't change the fact that Mexico....especially at this moment in time....is a pretty risky trip to take. I 'think' everything will go fine and it'll be much to do about nothing....but again, my original point was that I was given zero say in a decision that affects my family. I'll always be pissed about any situation like that no matter the destination.
Parts of Mexico are dangerous, and those are parts that nobody would ever venture to. With the exception of TJ and Laredo all of the cities on the list are off the beaten path and places nobody's ever heard of. If Amarillo were the most dangerous city in America nobody would care because nobody ever actually goes there. This is akin to being afraid to travel to San Francisco because Compton is so dangerous.
As for the most recent shooting something stuck out to me. Note that at no point did the article mention what the decedents were up to, or their nationality. Only that it was drug related.
The only time my family will be off resort is to and from the airport. That I can ‘control’. Cancun has nothing to offer that we can’t get at the resort.
The trip to that island.
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So, my company has been doing some renovations in the office, including some long overdue facelifts of the elevators.
Included on the new look elevators is a display screen that gives info, like sports scores or bits of trivia (kind of like at some gas pumps). I have no idea why they did this, but it's OK.
At any rate, I discovered that it is displaying its info in British English instead of American English. This cannot stand. I mean, we fought an entire war over this kind of shit.
So I am currently engaged in the bureaucratic struggle to completely overhaul the new infotainment system.
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:lol you are fighting the good fight
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Side note, the sound on those awful loud blaring trivia screens at gas stations can be disabled by just clicking on the buttons. One of them will silence it.
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:lol you are fighting the good fight
I do what I can.
Side note, the sound on those awful loud blaring trivia screens at gas stations can be disabled by just clicking on the buttons. One of them will silence it.
You're right, but thankfully the one in our elevators is silent.
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So, my company has been doing some renovations in the office, including some long overdue facelifts of the elevators.
Included on the new look elevators is a display screen that gives info, like sports scores or bits of trivia (kind of like at some gas pumps). I have no idea why they did this, but it's OK.
At any rate, I discovered that it is displaying its info in British English instead of American English. This cannot stand. I mean, we fought an entire war over this kind of shit.
So I am currently engaged in the bureaucratic struggle to completely overhaul the new infotainment system.
Time to hide behind desk and lob complaints, then scuttle to the back side of the water cooler, complaining again. It's time to use guerrilla office warfare tactics.
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So, my company has been doing some renovations in the office, including some long overdue facelifts of the elevators.
Included on the new look elevators is a display screen that gives info, like sports scores or bits of trivia (kind of like at some gas pumps). I have no idea why they did this, but it's OK.
At any rate, I discovered that it is displaying its info in British English instead of American English. This cannot stand. I mean, we fought an entire war over this kind of shit.
So I am currently engaged in the bureaucratic struggle to completely overhaul the new infotainment system.
Time to hide behind desk and lob complaints, then scuttle to the back side of the water cooler, complaining again. It's time to use guerrilla office warfare tactics.
Nah, it's a full frontal assault.
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I was thinking revolutionary war tactics. LOL
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So, my company has been doing some renovations in the office, including some long overdue facelifts of the elevators.
Included on the new look elevators is a display screen that gives info, like sports scores or bits of trivia (kind of like at some gas pumps). I have no idea why they did this, but it's OK.
At any rate, I discovered that it is displaying its info in British English instead of American English. This cannot stand. I mean, we fought an entire war over this kind of shit.
So I am currently engaged in the bureaucratic struggle to completely overhaul the new infotainment system.
Sorry you feel that way, Guv. You might find someone who gives a shite if you'd take the dummy out of your gob. Fuckin' wanka'
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So, my company has been doing some renovations in the office, including some long overdue facelifts of the elevators.
Included on the new look elevators is a display screen that gives info, like sports scores or bits of trivia (kind of like at some gas pumps). I have no idea why they did this, but it's OK.
At any rate, I discovered that it is displaying its info in British English instead of American English. This cannot stand. I mean, we fought an entire war over this kind of shit.
So I am currently engaged in the bureaucratic struggle to completely overhaul the new infotainment system.
Put a sticker on the third floor button that says "free"
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So, my company has been doing some renovations in the office, including some long overdue facelifts of the elevators.
Included on the new look elevators is a display screen that gives info, like sports scores or bits of trivia (kind of like at some gas pumps). I have no idea why they did this, but it's OK.
At any rate, I discovered that it is displaying its info in British English instead of American English. This cannot stand. I mean, we fought an entire war over this kind of shit.
So I am currently engaged in the bureaucratic struggle to completely overhaul the new infotainment system.
Sorry you feel that way, Guv. You might find someone who gives a shite if you'd take the dummy out of your gob. Fuckin' wanka'
"Gob" is one of the greatest words of all time. I lament that we haven't adopted it this side of the pond.
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We use Kanban boards at work. The word is pronounced "Con-Bon". We have an employee who started with us 9 months ago and still pronounces is "Can-Ban" despite nobody else ever pronouncing it that way (seriously, I'm almost nine years into this gig and have never heard it pronounced like that). She stubborn as all hell when it comes to everything else, so I'm assuming it's got to be intentional at this point and she's saying it incorrectly as a matter of pride at this point. I know it's a really stupid thing to get upset about, but every time she says "can-ban" instead of "kon-bon", I die a little inside.
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We use Kanban boards at work. The word is pronounced "Con-Bon". We have an employee who started with us 9 months ago and still pronounces is "Can-Ban" despite nobody else ever pronouncing it that way (seriously, I'm almost nine years into this gig and have never heard it pronounced like that). She stubborn as all hell when it comes to everything else, so I'm assuming it's got to be intentional at this point and she's saying it incorrectly as a matter of pride at this point. I know it's a really stupid thing to get upset about, but every time she says "can-ban" instead of "kon-bon", I die a little inside.
I definitely read it as "can-ban" initially. It's kind of one of those stupid things in life that make you wonder if some people are NPCs. :lol
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If something is pissing me off on any given day, it's usually always the same thing(s). I normally don't like to repeat myself. :facepalm:
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If something is pissing me off on any given day, it's usually always the same thing(s). I normally don't like to repeat myself. :facepalm:
Ditto. :facepalm:
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Yeah, nobody wants to read the same complaints over and over. :lol
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We use Kanban boards at work. The word is pronounced "Con-Bon". We have an employee who started with us 9 months ago and still pronounces is "Can-Ban" despite nobody else ever pronouncing it that way (seriously, I'm almost nine years into this gig and have never heard it pronounced like that). She stubborn as all hell when it comes to everything else, so I'm assuming it's got to be intentional at this point and she's saying it incorrectly as a matter of pride at this point. I know it's a really stupid thing to get upset about, but every time she says "can-ban" instead of "kon-bon", I die a little inside.
Has anyone actually corrected her?
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We use Kanban boards at work. The word is pronounced "Con-Bon". We have an employee who started with us 9 months ago and still pronounces is "Can-Ban" despite nobody else ever pronouncing it that way (seriously, I'm almost nine years into this gig and have never heard it pronounced like that). She stubborn as all hell when it comes to everything else, so I'm assuming it's got to be intentional at this point and she's saying it incorrectly as a matter of pride at this point. I know it's a really stupid thing to get upset about, but every time she says "can-ban" instead of "kon-bon", I die a little inside.
Has anyone actually corrected her?
I don't know. I haven't. But she hears the word said probably 50+ times a day by a dozen or more people. The two of us did a two day agile seminar where it was said hundreds of times.
This doesn't actually "piss me off", but something unsettling fires in my brain every time she sais it :lol
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We use Kanban boards at work. The word is pronounced "Con-Bon". We have an employee who started with us 9 months ago and still pronounces is "Can-Ban" despite nobody else ever pronouncing it that way (seriously, I'm almost nine years into this gig and have never heard it pronounced like that). She stubborn as all hell when it comes to everything else, so I'm assuming it's got to be intentional at this point and she's saying it incorrectly as a matter of pride at this point. I know it's a really stupid thing to get upset about, but every time she says "can-ban" instead of "kon-bon", I die a little inside.
Has anyone actually corrected her?
I don't know. I haven't. But she hears the word said probably 50+ times a day by a dozen or more people. The two of us did a two day agile seminar where it was said hundreds of times.
This doesn't actually "piss me off", but something unsettling fires in my brain every time she sais it :lol
Just fucking tell her. Say, 'Hey bitch, it's Con-bon, not can-ban you fucking dumbass, jeez! Do you not hear every fucking other person say it differently to how you do? For fucks sake!'
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Well I personally like to joke with words, only because I find the concept of language very fascinating. One way I joke is intentionally pronouncing the name incorrectly. I do this with both English and Spanish.
Honestly, I would have probably done the same exact thing. And I actually did pronounce it as "Can-Ban" at first. But, I would be doing it as a joke, more so than not knowing how to say it right. Just because I can and I find it fun to have fun with the concept of language.
I find it even more hilarious that no one has bothered to ask her why she pronounces it that way.
Language is very interesting in regards to pronunciation, that English speakers do not pronounce Foreign Languages exactly correct, and vice versa. Due to these enunciations, stresses, muscle memory formed through how one speaks, and accents it can be difficult for someone to pronounce a word correctly in a language that isn't their main language.
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This trend of people wanting to bring their dogs everywhere is so annoying. I love dogs, but leaving the f'ing things home.
Shit like this should infuriate anyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo3PRtv69UI
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This trend of people wanting to bring their dogs everywhere is so annoying. I love dogs, but leaving the f'ing things home.
Yup, fuck that! I completely agree. Since when is it ok to bring your dog to the fucking grocery store and put them in the carriage. People put their food and small children in there.
If you have a service or comfort dog, it should have a fucking orange vest and a license displayed in a clear pocket on the vest.
Also, dogs do not belong in the front seat of a car. People driving with their dogs on their laps? WTF??
Kev, I'm with you 100%. Leave the fucking dog at home!
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I'm fine with it as long as they don't leave the fucking dog in the fucking cart when they put it in the fucking coral. :lol :rollin
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It's expanded far beyond just dogs, at least here in FL. You're bound to see any type of companion creature including a 3' lizard of some kind perched on a man's shoulder. And it wasn't a pet food store where you are more apt to see these kinds of things. It was a grocery store.
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It's expanded far beyond just dogs, at least here in FL. You're bound to see any type of companion creature including a 3' lizard of some kind perched on a man's shoulder. And it wasn't a pet food store where you are more apt to see these kinds of things. It was a grocery store.
If it's a health and safety issue, shouldn't the stores do something about it?
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I think this country is so tangled in knots about the fear of offending folks that pretty much anything goes.
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So, I was in an airport right before COVID and a woman came in the bar I was at with her "Emotional Support" dog. She wanted her dog to sit with her while she ate and when the bartender asked for her papers, you'd think she was asked to consent to a rectal exam right there. She ended up walking out (without paying for her food). Only one example, but still...
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So, I was in an airport right before COVID and a woman came in the bar I was at with her "Emotional Support" dog. She wanted her dog to sit with her while she ate and when the bartender asked for her papers, you'd think she was asked to consent to a rectal exam right there. She ended up walking out (without paying for her food). Only one example, but still...
Oddly, the "papers" aren't hard to get. Most therapists will write a letter.
I had a client back in the day who told me she forged paperwork to have her pet considered a service animal. Insane.
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So, I was in an airport right before COVID and a woman came in the bar I was at with her "Emotional Support" dog. She wanted her dog to sit with her while she ate and when the bartender asked for her papers, you'd think she was asked to consent to a rectal exam right there. She ended up walking out (without paying for her food). Only one example, but still...
Oddly, the "papers" aren't hard to get. Most therapists will write a letter.
I had a client back in the day who told me she forged paperwork to have her pet considered a service animal. Insane.
But even with papers, you still shouldn't be able to just bring a dog anywhere.
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So, I was in an airport right before COVID and a woman came in the bar I was at with her "Emotional Support" dog. She wanted her dog to sit with her while she ate and when the bartender asked for her papers, you'd think she was asked to consent to a rectal exam right there. She ended up walking out (without paying for her food). Only one example, but still...
Oddly, the "papers" aren't hard to get. Most therapists will write a letter.
I had a client back in the day who told me she forged paperwork to have her pet considered a service animal. Insane.
But even with papers, you still shouldn't be able to just bring a dog anywhere.
Yea. I'm not sure on the legalities, but as far as I know, emotional support animals can be allowed places other animals are but not just anywhere. Meanwhile service animals, as far as I know, are allowed just about anywhere.
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
But there's a big difference between and emotional support and service animal.
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
But there's a big difference between and emotional support and service animal.
What is the actual difference?
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
But there's a big difference between and emotional support and service animal.
What is the actual difference?
In short, an emotional support animal is something someone with maybe anxiety or depression has with them to help in their treatment. A service animal is more like a seeing eye dog or something along those lines.
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
But there's a big difference between and emotional support and service animal.
What is the actual difference?
In short, an emotional support animal is something someone with maybe anxiety or depression has with them to help in their treatment. A service animal is more like a seeing eye dog or something along those lines.
Would companionship be a part of that?
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
But there's a big difference between and emotional support and service animal.
What is the actual difference?
In short, an emotional support animal is something someone with maybe anxiety or depression has with them to help in their treatment. A service animal is more like a seeing eye dog or something along those lines.
I understand that. But I view the emotional support animal as a service animal though, maybe as a sub text, but not necessarily the other way around.
I'm supportive if someone needs an emotional support animal. And generally, I'm talking about a dog. You should not be able to bring you support alligator ANYWHERE, sorry.
I still think they should be vested with a license visible to any business owner. People are so afraid to confront people these days. The onus should be on the person with the dog.
Would companionship be a part of that?
It shouldn't be. You shouldn't be allowed to bring Fido to the store just because you like their company.
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
But there's a big difference between and emotional support and service animal.
Yes, you are correct. They are allowed in stores and restaurants and planes. A service animal is allowed everywhere.
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If a store doesn't object I don't object. Some stores want to be considered pet friendly and more power to them, AFAIC. Some don't, and that's fine with me, too. One thing I will say is that whenever I see a dog at Home Depot (which for some reason is the most likely place) they're almost always very well behaved. At least down here people have the good sense to leave dogs that don't do well around others at home. If your dog is yapping or trying to sodomize people then it's a different story, but I don't think I've ever been accosted by a dog in a store.
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If a store doesn't object I don't object. Some stores want to be considered pet friendly and more power to them, AFAIC. Some don't, and that's fine with me, too. One thing I will say is that whenever I see a dog at Home Depot (which for some reason is the most likely place) they're almost always very well behaved. At least down here people have the good sense to leave dogs that don't do well around others at home. If your dog is yapping or trying to sodomize people then it's a different story, but I don't think I've ever been accosted by a dog in a store.
I think some stores are afraid to object, honestly. I don't see and hear a lot of business advertising that they're pet friendly.
The Lowes around the corner from me partners or allows Service Animal Training. I can appreciate that.
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Tim, if you have the paperwork, I believe a service or emotional animal is allowed to most establishments.
But there's a big difference between and emotional support and service animal.
What is the actual difference?
In short, an emotional support animal is something someone with maybe anxiety or depression has with them to help in their treatment. A service animal is more like a seeing eye dog or something along those lines.
I understand that. But I view the emotional support animal as a service animal though, maybe as a sub text, but not necessarily the other way around.
I'm supportive if someone needs an emotional support animal. And generally, I'm talking about a dog. You should not be able to bring you support alligator ANYWHERE, sorry.
I still think they should be vested with a license visible to any business owner. People are so afraid to confront people these days. The onus should be on the person with the dog.
Would companionship be a part of that?
I'm on the fence about this one and I feel like an asshole a lot of the time because of it. Part me me thinks "do whatever you need to do", then the other part of me says "suck it up and make yourself uncomfortable. Life is full of discomforts."
I got written up last weekend at my catering job because of this topic. We had a young girl call out because she popped a tire on one of our busiest highways twenty-five miles from the store. She managed to get the spare on, but she said it was wobbly and didn't feel safe driving it to work, and no garages were open on a Sunday to plug her tire.
Another lady there, a 60 something year old bag of misery who refuses to wear her slip resistants says something along the lines of "fucking kids today. They're all weak. Can't do anything. Don't even know how to use a car jack anymore. Any excuse to not work." . I hit back with something like "You can't even get on a bus without your support pug because being in the presence of a dozen people is somehow too overwhelming for you. Maybe you should cut her some slack". She walked off for the day (Easter weekend mind you) and emailed our manager, and I was the one that got reprimanded for it.
Back on topic, I get that people need support for various things, and I'm sure there's a study out there saying I'm wrong, but don't bring your emotional support dog everywhere. If you can't do something as simple as sitting quietly on a bus without having some kind of breakdown that can only be cured by the dog you just so happen to already have, you need some form of assistance beyond that dog. It's probably doing the person more harm than good to require such a crutch.
If the need is so strong that you truly can't function in society without the emotional support of the dog, it should be vested and registered just like any other dog that's tasked with helping someone. You can't just go everywhere with your pet and say "It's cool. I need the emotional support"
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If the need is so strong that you truly can't function in society without the emotional support of the dog, it should be vested and registered just like any other dog that's tasked with helping someone.
THIS is the crux of how I feel. If your coworker needs her pug to get on a bus, so be it. But it should be an orange vested license showing pug.
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I love dogs, but there should be a clear line of what's acceptable when bringing animals into public stores. And emotional support doesn't really cut it for me. Service dogs are fine.
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I have an emotional Tim to support me. We need to make a vest for him. I'll look into the support patch and an Iron Maiden patch for the vest.
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I have an emotional Tim to support me. We need to make a vest for him. I'll look into the support patch and an Iron Maiden patch for the vest.
Yup, and then we can go everywhere together!
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I love dogs, but there should be a clear line of what's acceptable when bringing animals into public stores. And emotional support doesn't really cut it for me. Service dogs are fine.
Honestly, the vast majority of times I see people with dogs emotional support doesn't really figure into it. That's mostly for planes. While people here are looking at it like it's done for the benefit of the owner, plenty of people are likely doing it for the benefit of the dog. Taking him out rather than leaving him at home, and taking him in rather than leaving him in the car (which will get your window smashed nowadays). That's what I takeaway most of the time I see a person with a dog in a store. Like I say, I like dogs for the most part, and if the store doesn't object neither do I.
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One thing that surprised me the most when we moved here to Raleigh is that people have their dogs everywhere. It seemed weird at first, but now I'm accustomed to it. It's never a problem.
I'll say that I don't normally see any non-emotional support animals inside of restaurants. I see plenty of them in outdoor sections of restaurants. They are always fun. As a dog lover, I know that there are plenty of asshole dogs. But around here anyway, people seem to leave their asshole dogs at home. I only see good boys.
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I don't go to a ton of stores but I go to Home Depot several times a week for my job, and I always see multiple people there with their dogs, either in the cart or being walked on a leash.
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Emotional support dog?! :lol Talk about taking the piss. I agree, don't bring the fucking dog. I love animals more than anyone, sometimes I'll take them over humans but unless it's a guide dog for someone who is vision impaired, I don't understand it.
I don't go to a ton of stores but I go to Home Depot several times a week for my job, and I always see multiple people there with their dogs, either in the cart or being walked on a leash.
Same. A few weeks ago I went to the hardware store and saw 3 different people with dogs in the trolley! Fucking 3, in the space of ten minutes, WTF?
The other side of the coin is people that take them in the car and leave them in the car? That makes me more pissed off. So many times in our carparks, people leave them in the car and go for a swim. I hunt them out and kick them out of the pool, I love it. People do it all the damn time. It's hot as hell over here and it's just animal cruelty.
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Presale codes are fucking stupid. They don't really do much, and they're a pain in the ass because everybody and their dog has to have their own. Even when a band gives you a presale code it might not work for any number of reasons. Add to that, because this is America, a hundred different places want to sell you the damn codes, so you can't even search for them easily. Seriously, fuck that shit. Just sell your damn tickets and quit making people jump through hoops.
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Presale codes are fucking stupid. They don't really do much, and they're a pain in the ass because everybody and their dog has to have their own. Even when a band gives you a presale code it might not work for any number of reasons. Add to that, because this is America, a hundred different places want to sell you the damn codes, so you can't even search for them easily. Seriously, fuck that shit. Just sell your damn tickets and quit making people jump through hoops.
100% correct!
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Presale codes are fucking stupid. They don't really do much, and they're a pain in the ass because everybody and their dog has to have their own. Even when a band gives you a presale code it might not work for any number of reasons. Add to that, because this is America, a hundred different places want to sell you the damn codes, so you can't even search for them easily. Seriously, fuck that shit. Just sell your damn tickets and quit making people jump through hoops.
A twitter search often works for me for the standard codes that aren't user specific from fan clubs. Not always though. The whole ticketing process is annoying. Having said that, I kind of expect to be able to just wait and get a solid value ticket for this show.
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I am waiting until tomorrow to try the ticketing service on the Festivals website.
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Too hot too soon. NY sucks right now! Spring before Summer please!!! :censored
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Too hot too soon. NY sucks right now! Spring before Summer please!!! :censored
What sort of temps do you get over there during the hot season?
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Too hot too soon. NY sucks right now! Spring before Summer please!!! :censored
What sort of temps do you get over there during the hot season?
Today was about 90, same expected tomorrow. "Normal" Sping is usually 65-75 max. A hot Summer here is a humid 95 plus.
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Too hot too soon. NY sucks right now! Spring before Summer please!!! :censored
What sort of temps do you get over there during the hot season?
Today was about 90, same expected tomorrow. "Normal" Sping is usually 65-75 max. A hot Summer here is a humid 95 plus.
Middle of summer we will get 90-95 consistently. 90 already seems high thinking about where your season is falling.
But 65-75 is what......18 to 21 degrees C going by Google. That's Summer! Lol. 21 degrees is middle of winter here. Daytime temps in our winter is normally 25-26 haha.
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Here in Europe temperature isn't neither too high or low but since February there are periods that are kinda hot and then again the colder periods. It's normal for Spring but this years it's extreme. One day I'm out in short pants, few days later I need to take my winter jacket out of the closet lol.
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Too hot too soon. NY sucks right now! Spring before Summer please!!! :censored
Almost 90 in Minnesota yesterday too. While I appreciate the accelerated melting of snow, I like 60s and 70s in spring. It's going back to cooler temps over the weekend, but the problem is that 50s will feel cold now after a few days in the 80s. 50 is supposed to feel warm in the spring in Minnesota.
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We hit 91 in yesterday in CT.
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Staff texting me at 10pm Friday night calling in sick for their Saturday fucking shift!
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Why do I still fucking do this?
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Staff texting me at 10pm Friday night calling in sick for their Saturday fucking shift!
:censored
Why do I still fucking do this?
That's code for "I have been getting after it since happy hour and know I'll be hungover tomorrow." :lol :lol
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Staff texting me at 10pm Friday night calling in sick for their Saturday fucking shift!
:censored
Why do I still fucking do this?
That's code for "I have been getting after it since happy hour and know I'll be hungover tomorrow." :lol :lol
This one went home early yesterday morning and is still fucking sick.
I'm sorry, the youth of today are precious fucking entitled snowflakes. Sick of it.
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I'm sorry, the youth of today are precious fucking entitled snowflakes. Sick of it.
Said every generation ever...including mine about yours. :lol
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Staff texting me at 10pm Friday night calling in sick for their Saturday fucking shift!
:censored
Why do I still fucking do this?
That's code for "I have been getting after it since happy hour and know I'll be hungover tomorrow." :lol :lol
This one went home early yesterday morning and is still fucking sick.
I'm sorry, the youth of today are precious fucking entitled snowflakes. Sick of it.
Wait, this person is legit sick and you're mad at them for not coming in? Sick people should stay home.
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Staff texting me at 10pm Friday night calling in sick for their Saturday fucking shift!
:censored
Why do I still fucking do this?
That's code for "I have been getting after it since happy hour and know I'll be hungover tomorrow." :lol :lol
This one went home early yesterday morning and is still fucking sick.
I'm sorry, the youth of today are precious fucking entitled snowflakes. Sick of it.
I agree with your last point, but if someone is legit sick, they are better off staying home.
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Staff texting me at 10pm Friday night calling in sick for their Saturday fucking shift!
:censored
Why do I still fucking do this?
That's code for "I have been getting after it since happy hour and know I'll be hungover tomorrow." :lol :lol
This one went home early yesterday morning and is still fucking sick.
I'm sorry, the youth of today are precious fucking entitled snowflakes. Sick of it.
Call in sick. :lol
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Is there a reason to think the person is BSing? If so, yeah, I'd be pissed. I mean, even if they are legit sick, I may still be pissed at the circumstances if that fucked me over. But kind of hard to be legit mad at a sick person. I'd probably rather be healthy and at work than sick and at home.
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I used to get in trouble for not calling in sick. I would be so worried about letting people down I would go in no matter how sick I was. Led to some huge mistakes on my part because I was so out of it. I've gotten better as I got older and now that I actually have tons of help. I don't feel so guilty anymore.
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I got scolded when I was younger coming into the office sick. My current job has a lot of sick time and I'm very much encouraged to use it.
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What I mean is, they aren't really sick but they get one little sniffle and they carry on like they are dying. Every little thing is a drama.
I'm not the type of guy to make people come in when they are sick nor do I reprimand them in any way. Peoples thresholds are different I know and accept that. I was just venting as it happens all the time and more and more, that's all.
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I'm sorry, the youth of today are precious fucking entitled snowflakes. Sick of it.
Said every generation ever...including mine about yours. :lol
You're right. Plenty of snowflakes in my generation mate.
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In Florida dealing with my parents estate, and driving across state for a work conference... and I pop positive for the COVIDs. I dodged that fucking bullet for over two years, and now.... quaranting for indefinite days at my parents empty condo. Thank god I have a Roku.
On the plus side, I've watched all of 1883, all of 1923, and am in the middle of the Beatles "Get Back". Stranger Things is next.
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In Florida dealing with my parents estate, and driving across state for a work conference... and I pop positive for the COVIDs. I dodged that fucking bullet for over two years, and now.... quaranting for indefinite days at my parents empty condo. Thank god I have a Roku.
On the plus side, I've watched all of 1883, all of 1923, and am in the middle of the Beatles "Get Back". Stranger Things is next.
Sorry to hear that, of course that's what would happen. Feel better and good luck dealing with the stress of the estate. :facepalm:
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In Florida dealing with my parents estate, and driving across state for a work conference... and I pop positive for the COVIDs. I dodged that fucking bullet for over two years, and now.... quaranting for indefinite days at my parents empty condo. Thank god I have a Roku.
On the plus side, I've watched all of 1883, all of 1923, and am in the middle of the Beatles "Get Back". Stranger Things is next.
Get well soon, sucks but what can you do? Enjoy the TV time
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Jeez, when it rains it pours, Bill.
I thought in Florida, you only have to quarantine for a couple of hours.. ;D
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Jeez, when it rains it pours, Bill.
I thought in Florida, you only have to quarantine for a couple of hours.. ;D
You know, it's not far off. I've been apologizing like a Canadian* and it's like "ok, whatever!".
(* Meant in pure fun, to get a laugh out of a shitty situation.)
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In Florida dealing with my parents estate, and driving across state for a work conference... and I pop positive for the COVIDs. I dodged that fucking bullet for over two years, and now.... quaranting for indefinite days at my parents empty condo. Thank god I have a Roku.
On the plus side, I've watched all of 1883, all of 1923, and am in the middle of the Beatles "Get Back". Stranger Things is next.
That's sucks big time Bill.
WTF is a Roku?
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In Florida dealing with my parents estate, and driving across state for a work conference... and I pop positive for the COVIDs. I dodged that fucking bullet for over two years, and now.... quaranting for indefinite days at my parents empty condo. Thank god I have a Roku.
On the plus side, I've watched all of 1883, all of 1923, and am in the middle of the Beatles "Get Back". Stranger Things is next.
That's sucks big time Bill.
WTF is a Roku?
Short little poems. :neverusethis:
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Wut?
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
No, short little poems are "haiku".
:) :) :)
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
No, short little poems are "haiku".
:) :) :)
I know, I was messing with the Wolf. :biggrin:
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Can't you see I was already pissed off? :lol
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Can't you see I was already pissed off? :lol
Oh mann! I'm sorry Kade. :blush :)
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
What's Apple TV?
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Can't you see I was already pissed off? :lol
Oh mann! I'm sorry Kade. :blush :)
I'm just having a laugh mate, all good. :tup
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
No, short little poems are "haiku".
:) :) :)
I know, I was messing with the Wolf. :biggrin:
And I was trying to do my version of "no it's her husband". Haha.
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
What's Apple TV?
A 24 hour all Beatles network ;)
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
What's Apple TV?
Ted Kaczynski, stop asking silly questions.
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
What's Apple TV?
A 24 hour all Beatles network ;)
I'd sign up for that! :)
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Wut?
Ha! Just messing with you. Its like Netflix and Apple TV. :)
What's Apple TV?
A 24 hour all Beatles network ;)
Wouldn’t that be Abbey TV?
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Today morning all of Florida received a Test Emergency alert at 4:45am, a test meant to send signals out to TVs only but instead got routed to all phones instead.
My phone was on silent so I didn't hear it plus I was in a deep sleep. My wife however was rudely awoken and grumpy all morning and generally pissed off.
Our governor not being a fan of any type of wokeness especiallly one at 4:45am is ordering a full investigation.
https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/why-did-floridians-wake-up-to-an-early-morning-emergency-alert/ (https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/why-did-floridians-wake-up-to-an-early-morning-emergency-alert/)
This meme about sums it up ;D
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Our governor not being a fan of any type of wokeness especiallly one at 4:45am is ordering a full investigation.
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Our governor not being a fan of any type of wokeness especiallly one at 4:45am is ordering a full investigation.
:clap:
:lol
My brother was telling me about this.
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Cars, man. On Monday I had the pleasure of my Check Engine light come on which is the first time it's happened in this car but not bad for owning it for 5+ years and it being up to 91K miles (bought it used at 30K). I call my guy and he said he doesn't do diagnostic work so I take it to the dealership. Next day they called and the "good" news is the Check Engine light wasn't on. The bad news? Lots of maintenance piled on at once so I got $1,650 of work done. I pick it up, everything looks good, and I head on back.
So today I'm driving and suddenly the Check Engine light comes on again. This time I bring it to AutoZone to get a basic code check with printout and now I have to go back to the dealership on Monday and drop who knows how much more money. I understand the dealership can't check codes if the Check Engine light isn't on but damn I'm a bit frustrated since there's seemingly more shit wrong with it. On the phone I joked that my car having no light when they looked at it like bringing my grandfather with dementia to the doctor but they're telling the doctor everything is fine :lol
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I recently had a similar incident with my 2017 Hyundai Sonata hybrid. I have less than 40K miles on it and just had the big 30K service completed about 6 months ago.
Turns out the gas cap was loose. Thankfully I was able to discern this before having to take it in.
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I tripled checked that once I saw that was a common cause of Check Engine lights. The scan at AutoZone came back as the O2 sensor which is also common but could cost another $200-500.
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I understand the dealership can't check codes if the Check Engine light isn't on
Sure they can. If that's just their policy tell them to fuck off.
Also, didn't the AZ guy give you the codes?
And it's a little late now, but never trust a dealership to tell you what's wrong with your car. If it's not brand new they want to replace everything to make it brand new. I one had a dealer advise me to sell my car because the cost of fixing everything that was wrong with it was more than the value of the car. None of them showed any signs of being bad for the subsequent ten years I drove it.
edit: O2 sensor codes often times don't actually mean O2 sensor. If it was only one sensor then it's a safe bet. If it was both sensors then the problem is elsewhere.
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Apple tv and Amazon prime showing Yankee games screws my 98 year old grandmother from watching games. Honestly I hate it too but its all about the $$$.
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People are so fucking lame.
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People are so fucking lame.
What'd we do?
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People are so fucking lame.
What'd we do?
This time. :lol
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People are so fucking lame.
What'd we do?
Injured our legs?
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People are so fucking lame.
What'd we do?
Injured our legs?
:tup
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News flash. Lame doesn't necessarily mean injured and it doesn't necessarily mean legs either. This is why we sometimes have to generalize.
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News flash. Lame doesn't necessarily mean injured and it doesn't necessarily mean legs either. This is why we sometimes have to generalize.
I have never heard the word 'lame' used for either of those meanings.
But yes, people are fucking lame. That's being very kind too.
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The Yankees. >:( :censored
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TV stations now forcing you to see previews of other shows even when you DVR the show. The breaks in the recordings is to fast forward through the commercials. Now it breaks so it forces you to see the previews.
I bought the DVR to see no commercials. This may be a Comcast issue in cahoots with stations.
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I'll probably get shot down, but what's a DVR?
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I'll probably get shot down, but what's a DVR?
Something that people who don't know how to just download movies and TV shows use to watch stuff on their own schedule. :biggrin:
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Digital Video Controller.
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Digital Video Controller.
Um, that's a DVC. :lol
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I'll probably get shot down, but what's a DVR?
Something that people who don't know how to just download movies and TV shows use to watch stuff on their own schedule. :biggrin:
I assumed Digital Video Recorder but just unsure how it works. We just have the box which has cable TV plus Netflix, Stan etc. but for cable TV you can just set record anytime or go back and watch things anytime. I'm guessing a DVR is a different entity again?
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I'll probably get shot down, but what's a DVR?
Something that people who don't know how to just download movies and TV shows use to watch stuff on their own schedule. :biggrin:
I assumed Digital Video Recorder but just unsure how it works. We just have the box which has cable TV plus Netflix, Stan etc. but for cable TV you can just set record anytime or go back and watch things anytime. I'm guessing a DVR is a different entity again?
Nah, that's pretty much it. Apparently in the Kingdom the box prevents you from skipping commercials now.
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I'll probably get shot down, but what's a DVR?
Something that people who don't know how to just download movies and TV shows use to watch stuff on their own schedule. :biggrin:
I assumed Digital Video Recorder but just unsure how it works. We just have the box which has cable TV plus Netflix, Stan etc. but for cable TV you can just set record anytime or go back and watch things anytime. I'm guessing a DVR is a different entity again?
Nah, that's pretty much it. Apparently in the Kingdom the box prevents you from skipping commercials now.
Oh yeah, ours won't do that, but I'll just fast forward the ads, no biggie.
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Digital Video Controller.
Um, that's a DVC. :lol
Oops. Recorder! :lol
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It skips the regular commercials but stops at the stations previews. It didn't do that before.
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Wait... people still have cable?
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Wait... people still have cable?
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Yes, for those who want all local sporting events. Until they work that out I won't give up cable. I still stream too.
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Wait... people still have cable?
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Yes, for those who want all local sporting events. Until they work that out I won't give up cable. I still stream too.
Good point. My wife and I were just talking about that last night how we miss having local sports. $100+ a month just to watch a couple baseball games a week just isn't worth it for us.
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Completely get that. For us up here in N.E. We have 4 sports that do well so it's 24/7 all 4 seasons.
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Completely get that. For us up here in N.E. We have 4 sports that do well so it's 24/7 all 4 seasons.
This is it. The only TV I watch is sports.
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Completely get that. For us up here in N.E. We have 4 sports that do well so it's 24/7 all 4 seasons.
This is it. The only TV I watch is sports.
Same. Everything else these days is just fucking shit.
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The fucking healthcare system in this country can pound sand.
I had my annual exam yesterday. New nurse practitioner. I liked her, she came with good recommendations. I told her up front that I'm not a fan of medication/pharmaceuticals and that I'd recently lost 30 pounds and plan to lose another 20 more in the next year. All fine, she said nothing about my weight.
Labs came back. My fasting glucose was a tiny bit high but my A1C is normal (yay). I'm definitely Vit D deficient so I'm totally on board with bumping this up through supplementation. No problem and I wasn't surprised.
Side bar - You should all get your Vit D checked. Seriously. Nobody is getting enough Vit D from the sun.
So the bad news was that my LDL cholesterol was high. Total cholesterol was slightly high. Triglycerides normal. HDL normal. Her recommendation? Medication, lose weight, eat less saturated fat. I'm doing these last 2 things and I'm making great progress. Why are you wanting me to take more time off from work to come in a consult on medication? I'm not going on a statin. Statins can cause weight gain and fuck with your blood glucose. No way. How about I just continue on with my progress and I come back in and we recheck my blood at the end of summer?
Because coming in to talk about medication that I'm not willing to take is going to mean they can bill my insurance again. She won't even discuss this over email or phone because this is clinic policy. I have to come in for an appointment. And not just one appointment, they want me to come in on the Vit D thing too. Separately.
I'm not doing that. I guess I should be happy she didn't tell me to eat 1200 calories a day and cut out carbs. ::)
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The fucking healthcare system in this country can pound sand.
I had my annual exam yesterday. New nurse practitioner. I liked her, she came with good recommendations. I told her up front that I'm not a fan of medication/pharmaceuticals and that I'd recently lost 30 pounds and plan to lose another 20 more in the next year. All fine, she said nothing about my weight.
Labs came back. My fasting glucose was a tiny bit high but my A1C is normal (yay). I'm definitely Vit D deficient so I'm totally on board with bumping this up through supplementation. No problem and I wasn't surprised.
Side bar - You should all get your Vit D checked. Seriously. Nobody is getting enough Vit D from the sun.
So the bad news was that my LDL cholesterol was high. Total cholesterol was slightly high. Triglycerides normal. HDL normal. Her recommendation? Medication, lose weight, eat less saturated fat. I'm doing these last 2 things and I'm making great progress. Why are you wanting me to take more time off from work to come in a consult on medication? I'm not going on a statin. Statins can cause weight gain and fuck with your blood glucose. No way. How about I just continue on with my progress and I come back in and we recheck my blood at the end of summer?
Because coming in to talk about medication that I'm not willing to take is going to mean they can bill my insurance again. She won't even discuss this over email or phone because this is clinic policy. I have to come in for an appointment. And not just one appointment, they want me to come in on the Vit D thing too. Separately.
I'm not doing that. I guess I should be happy she didn't tell me to eat 1200 calories a day and cut out carbs. ::)
Assuming that's voluntary and not a result of something bad, congratulations. Good work! :)
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I've switched one doctor and marginalized another because they want me coming in too often. I don't mind simply saying no, but they'd stop refilling my prescriptions if I didn't come in often enough. In one case that included not refilling my immunosuppressants, and I need those to live. Pushing specific meds, including statins also pisses me off. At least try and look like you're not getting kickbacks on the damn stuff.
I share your disinterest in statins. At the same time I'm not at all convinced that diet and lifestyle actually matter insofar as your cholesterol numbers go. I'll be curious to hear if your numbers actually get any better. Lifestyle changed did dick for mine.
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I am quite anti-medication for me personally. No tylenol even. Nothing.
Some time early last year I went to a new pcp and they did their regular tests and said my cholesterol was pretty high but to check back in a few months. Due to various work/insurance reasons, I did not do that. So then some time last year I made contact with a distant cousin on my dad's side through 23&Me. I have no real info on my dad other than what my mom remembers. They broke up before I was born. So I don't know much about his health. When I talked to her (cousin), she said my dad and his brothers have MAJOR heart problems. So I made a cardiologist appointment to stay ahead of things. Told me to get on statins. I said no. I don't do meds. He also looked at my blood work from last year and said it was alarming. Said diet/exercise would not yield much for me. I stuck to my guns and he did the blood panels again.
Now, I am not a super healthy person, but I'm far from very unhealthy. Life long vegetarian. Don't smoke. Don't drink. No drugs. I don't love cheese, I don't do much in the way of deep fried foods, etc. And over the course of the year between my two blood panels, I got married. So I spent it trying to lose weight, exercise more, eat better etc.
The result? My cholesterol numbers were dangerously high. They had skyrocketed even from last years. So after a lot of personal introspection and such, I decided to go on the statins. All of the evidence seemed to suggest that my issues were genetic and no amount of diet/exercise would have done enough to get me to healthy numbers, and as a newly married man, I'd kind of like to live a bit longer.
Hardest decision I've made and I hate those pills every time I take one. Which is every day. For the rest of my life.
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I had high blood pressure and my heart wasn't pumping correctly. I've had to take medication. Also, I've had blood clots multiple times so I have to be on blood thinners the rest of my life. They've been able to lower the amount I take with the weight loss so far. I was 437 last February. I'm down to 319 as of this morning. Goal is to get to 220. I feel so much better. Changed all of my eating habits. Had to. I do miss cake and ice cream but I'm so full with little to eat with having the gastric bypass surgery that it doesn't matter anymore.
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I have a genetic issue that also makes getting my cholesterol and triglycerides under control without meds pretty much a no-go. Your triglycerides are supposed to be under 150, I think. 20 years ago when I was having some major health issues it was discovered that my triglycerides were over 1600. My doctor was surprised I was even standing in front of him. My cholesterol was also high but not anywhere as worrying as the triglycerides. I started see a dietician and drastically changed my diet and even at my best, I could not get them even under 500. Turns out Dad had the same issue. I've been on fenofibric acid and a statin ever since then.
Even now, I don't eat all that terribly or in excess and I am fatter than I should ever be. I was skinny up until my early 20's and then just packed on the pounds and I eat better now that I ever have in my life. Sucks really.
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Nothing so far, but later on I have to drive...so yeah. Being pissed off behind the wheel can be counted on for sure because dudes on ludes should not drive. :lol
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I had irrational anger today at rice... fucking rice. It just kept flying everywhere which I tried to reheat and eat it. I think I need a nap.
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Assuming that's voluntary and not a result of something bad, congratulations. Good work! :)
Thanks - and it is definitely voluntary. I feel like I've finally cracked the code. I wish I had figured it out sooner, but no sense dwelling on the past. Diet culture really did a number on me for most of my life. It feels great to give all that bullshit up and just work on mastering the basics. And seeing results.
I've switched one doctor and marginalized another because they want me coming in too often. I don't mind simply saying no, but they'd stop refilling my prescriptions if I didn't come in often enough. In one case that included not refilling my immunosuppressants, and I need those to live. Pushing specific meds, including statins also pisses me off. At least try and look like you're not getting kickbacks on the damn stuff.
I share your disinterest in statins. At the same time I'm not at all convinced that diet and lifestyle actually matter insofar as your cholesterol numbers go. I'll be curious to hear if your numbers actually get any better. Lifestyle changed did dick for mine.
Thanks for the input. It does sort of feel like a scam (doctor's pushing certain drugs) though I'm certain statins save lives. And it may be that I will have to give them a whirl. I just think I should at the very least be given 6 months to try and see if I can make a difference without drugs. I really resent that pharmaceuticals are the default, especially when you have a patient making positive changes. Of course, being a new patient she probably doesn't see that. But I did tell her and I would've hoped she had listened to me.
I am quite anti-medication for me personally. No tylenol even. Nothing.
Some time early last year I went to a new pcp and they did their regular tests and said my cholesterol was pretty high but to check back in a few months. Due to various work/insurance reasons, I did not do that. So then some time last year I made contact with a distant cousin on my dad's side through 23&Me. I have no real info on my dad other than what my mom remembers. They broke up before I was born. So I don't know much about his health. When I talked to her (cousin), she said my dad and his brothers have MAJOR heart problems. So I made a cardiologist appointment to stay ahead of things. Told me to get on statins. I said no. I don't do meds. He also looked at my blood work from last year and said it was alarming. Said diet/exercise would not yield much for me. I stuck to my guns and he did the blood panels again.
Now, I am not a super healthy person, but I'm far from very unhealthy. Life long vegetarian. Don't smoke. Don't drink. No drugs. I don't love cheese, I don't do much in the way of deep fried foods, etc. And over the course of the year between my two blood panels, I got married. So I spent it trying to lose weight, exercise more, eat better etc.
The result? My cholesterol numbers were dangerously high. They had skyrocketed even from last years. So after a lot of personal introspection and such, I decided to go on the statins. All of the evidence seemed to suggest that my issues were genetic and no amount of diet/exercise would have done enough to get me to healthy numbers, and as a newly married man, I'd kind of like to live a bit longer.
Hardest decision I've made and I hate those pills every time I take one. Which is every day. For the rest of my life.
Thanks for writing this out. I do understand genetics can come into play and we can do fuck-all about that.
These are personal questions so don't feel obligated to answer them but....how are you feeling on the statins? Any side effects? Are you seeing results? How often are you having to follow up with your PCP?
Were all of your cholesterol numbers high? I mean I'm looking at very normal HDL and triglyceride numbers in my results. That has to count for something. If I was looking at elevations across the board, I'm sure I'd feel differently. I wouldn't be happy - but I'd see it more as red-flag territory for sure.
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These are personal questions so don't feel obligated to answer them but....how are you feeling on the statins? Any side effects? Are you seeing results? How often are you having to follow up with your PCP?
Were all of your cholesterol numbers high? I mean I'm looking at very normal HDL and triglyceride numbers in my results. That has to count for something. If I was looking at elevations across the board, I'm sure I'd feel differently. I wouldn't be happy - but I'd see it more as red-flag territory for sure.
So, this is all new, so I don't have a ton of answers.
I hate the statins on a philosophical basis. I, and no shame in admitting this, cried like a baby when I took my first pill. That's just a me thing since it's medication. I've since just adapted but hate them. Side effects were muscle cramping for a few days but have subsided and no other side effects I can notice.
No results yet. I'm almost 3 months on them and have my first follow up in a week and a half. Hoping it'll be good.
My overall cholesterol was dangerously high, so were my LDL levels.
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I had irrational anger today at rice... fucking rice. It just kept flying everywhere which I tried to reheat and eat it. I think I need a nap.
My wife has the same anger toward rice except its about cooking it.
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Thanks - and it is definitely voluntary. I feel like I've finally cracked the code. I wish I had figured it out sooner, but no sense dwelling on the past. Diet culture really did a number on me for most of my life. It feels great to give all that bullshit up and just work on mastering the basics. And seeing results.
I lost 28 pounds during the plague, which was a good time to go about it. When someone asked (and my doctor of 12 or so years did not) I'd tell them I'd discovered an old diet that people had forgotten about. It's called the Don't Eat so Fucking Much diet. I honestly didn't find it all that hard. It took very few lifestyle changes, and was mostly just a matter of paying attention.
That said, I have gained half of it back since life resumed to normal, so I might not know WTF I'm talking about.
Thanks for the input. It does sort of feel like a scam (doctor's pushing certain drugs) though I'm certain statins save lives. And it may be that I will have to give them a whirl. I just think I should at the very least be given 6 months to try and see if I can make a difference without drugs. I really resent that pharmaceuticals are the default, especially when you have a patient making positive changes. Of course, being a new patient she probably doesn't see that. But I did tell her and I would've hoped she had listened to me.
Everybody lies, or so I've heard. Doctors that actually listen to patients are increasingly uncommon, IMO. I do have a couple, though. From my experience it tends to be the PAs that actually pay attention to you and try to help you. I'm sure statins do help a lot of people. I just don't feel the need for them, myself. My numbers are borderline (like exactly, always within +/- 2 of the line), and the likelihood is that the kidney will bump me off before the cholesterol will. I don't honestly know anybody that's been able to bring theirs down naturally (I really wonder if it's a myth that people can). In Adami's case I'd take them and not think twice about it, though (even though I definitely get his stance on taking meds--I'm a tough it out kind of guy, myself).
For me it was BP medication, which was super-critical in my case, and like the statins I know they really do save lives. My previous doctor was amendment about what he prescribed though, despite several objections on my part. I'm on generics now and doing just fine. I don't see any need that I had to be on the expensive brand name stuff he'd prescribe. Not to mention that one of them was making me fucking insane.
And to be fair, I don't think he (or any other doctors, necessarily) was on the take. I used kickbacks facetiously. I do think smokin hot pharmaceutical reps, golf junkets, and catered lunches everyday do have a way of convincing them that new and shiny is necessarily the way to go, though.
I hate the statins on a philosophical basis. I, and no shame in admitting this, cried like a baby when I took my first pill. That's just a me thing since it's medication. I've since just adapted but hate them. Side effects were muscle cramping for a few days but have subsided and no other side effects I can notice.
No results yet. I'm almost 3 months on them and have my first follow up in a week and a half. Hoping it'll be good.
My overall cholesterol was dangerously high, so were my LDL levels.
It very likely will be. The things really do work. I took them for a couple of years (quit after the transplant) and they did bring my numbers down. They went right back up to my normal baseline afterward.
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I am quite anti-medication for me personally. No tylenol even. Nothing.
Some time early last year I went to a new pcp and they did their regular tests and said my cholesterol was pretty high but to check back in a few months. Due to various work/insurance reasons, I did not do that. So then some time last year I made contact with a distant cousin on my dad's side through 23&Me. I have no real info on my dad other than what my mom remembers. They broke up before I was born. So I don't know much about his health. When I talked to her (cousin), she said my dad and his brothers have MAJOR heart problems. So I made a cardiologist appointment to stay ahead of things. Told me to get on statins. I said no. I don't do meds. He also looked at my blood work from last year and said it was alarming. Said diet/exercise would not yield much for me. I stuck to my guns and he did the blood panels again.
Now, I am not a super healthy person, but I'm far from very unhealthy. Life long vegetarian. Don't smoke. Don't drink. No drugs. I don't love cheese, I don't do much in the way of deep fried foods, etc. And over the course of the year between my two blood panels, I got married. So I spent it trying to lose weight, exercise more, eat better etc.
The result? My cholesterol numbers were dangerously high. They had skyrocketed even from last years. So after a lot of personal introspection and such, I decided to go on the statins. All of the evidence seemed to suggest that my issues were genetic and no amount of diet/exercise would have done enough to get me to healthy numbers, and as a newly married man, I'd kind of like to live a bit longer.
Hardest decision I've made and I hate those pills every time I take one. Which is every day. For the rest of my life.
I listened to a fantastic podcast about cholesterol as mine was creeping up and the sciences seems to point to genetics being the biggest contributing factor of cholesterol.
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At some point, your body may need help. It's ok. It's what it's there for. If my pancreas worked, I wouldn't need insulin.
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Whenever you need medication that's over-the-counter, always look for the generics cuz they cost waaaaaaaaaay less.
diphenhydramine = Benadryl = Nytol/ZZquil
... one generic = two brand names that are for "different" things
dimenhydrinate = Gravol
... ask for a bottle from behind the counter and you'll get 10x more for the same price as Gravol from the shelf)
I'm a hospital pharmacy tech and you guys would go postal if you knew how much we pay for generic drugs vs what brand names cost at retail... even the brand names we carry are crazy.
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At some point, your body may need help. It's ok. It's what it's there for. If my pancreas worked, I wouldn't need insulin.
This is something I know I'll struggle with later in life. I don't take any painkillers of any kind. Don't keep up with flu shots or any vaccines, even things like decongestants and things of the kind I just don't take. It's like I have an ego thing against any form of medication. So I know when the day comes where it's necessary, it may be a struggle, but hopefully I'll know at that point I'm taking it for a damn good reason and because it's completely necessary.
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I had high blood pressure and my heart wasn't pumping correctly. I've had to take medication. Also, I've had blood clots multiple times so I have to be on blood thinners the rest of my life. They've been able to lower the amount I take with the weight loss so far. I was 437 last February. I'm down to 319 as of this morning. Goal is to get to 220. I feel so much better. Changed all of my eating habits. Had to. I do miss cake and ice cream but I'm so full with little to eat with having the gastric bypass surgery that it doesn't matter anymore.
This belongs in the what made you happy thread. Awesome dude. I can't wait to tell you "you're half the man you used to be"... in a literal and complimentary way!
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I had high blood pressure and my heart wasn't pumping correctly. I've had to take medication. Also, I've had blood clots multiple times so I have to be on blood thinners the rest of my life. They've been able to lower the amount I take with the weight loss so far. I was 437 last February. I'm down to 319 as of this morning. Goal is to get to 220. I feel so much better. Changed all of my eating habits. Had to. I do miss cake and ice cream but I'm so full with little to eat with having the gastric bypass surgery that it doesn't matter anymore.
This belongs in the what made you happy thread. Awesome dude. I can't wait to tell you "you're half the man you used to be"... in a literal and complimentary way!
I didn't see this post. Amazing Joe!
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Thanks guys! More to go!
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Yes, incredible accomplishment Joe, keep it up. :tup
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Nice work. Joe!
:tup :tup
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No results yet. I'm almost 3 months on them and have my first follow up in a week and a half. Hoping it'll be good.
If you feel comfortable doing so, I hope you'll post the results.
I lost 28 pounds during the plague, which was a good time to go about it. When someone asked (and my doctor of 12 or so years did not) I'd tell them I'd discovered an old diet that people had forgotten about. It's called the Don't Eat so Fucking Much diet. I honestly didn't find it all that hard. It took very few lifestyle changes, and was mostly just a matter of paying attention.
That said, I have gained half of it back since life resumed to normal, so I might not know WTF I'm talking about.
I think it is normal to slip back into old habits. The *DESFM diet you speak of could also be somewhat of a set up. For many people, restriction over time can lead to binging behavior. That was something I was doing. 1500 calories Monday through Friday. By the time Friday night rolled around I entered the 'fuck it' zone which lasted 2.5 days. I'm eating more calories now that I ever have on any 'diet' and this has led to much less binging out of hunger and desperation for delicious food. I was at about 2100 calories until my vacation. Now I'm in a mini cut down to 1900. (I'm sort of joking - that's not really a cut.) Of course paying attention to protein with every meal and fruits/veggies really helps too. But really what I've learned is consistency is key but NOT perfection. I'm consistent probably 85% - gotta leave room for eating out and special events.
I do think smokin hot pharmaceutical reps, golf junkets, and catered lunches everyday do have a way of convincing them that new and shiny is necessarily the way to go, though.
Agreed. And this shit happens on the regular. It is not unlike special interest groups donating to politicians. I'm all for healthcare providers being given information and research studies around pharmaceuticals and devices and treatments - but there should never be any gifting involved there, IMO.
I listened to a fantastic podcast about cholesterol as mine was creeping up and the sciences seems to point to genetics being the biggest contributing factor of cholesterol.
If you can recall the podcast, I'd be interested in it.
I've actually been doing some digging on how cholesterol breakdowns are calculated by the lab. I've been wondering how my LDL can be high and yet my triglycerides and HDL can be so great. I stumbled on some info that for people who have low triglycerides could wind up with LDL values that are over-stated if the lab uses the Friedewald equation. Apparently there is a way to order a specific test for LDL that is more accurate in that regard. I just have a feeling that if I ask my NP what method the lab uses to calculate the numbers, she'd have zero clue. :P
I had high blood pressure and my heart wasn't pumping correctly. I've had to take medication. Also, I've had blood clots multiple times so I have to be on blood thinners the rest of my life. They've been able to lower the amount I take with the weight loss so far. I was 437 last February. I'm down to 319 as of this morning. Goal is to get to 220. I feel so much better. Changed all of my eating habits. Had to. I do miss cake and ice cream but I'm so full with little to eat with having the gastric bypass surgery that it doesn't matter anymore.
Sorry, I meant to comment on this amazing progress before. I know it has not been an easy road but your progress is phenomenal and you should be very proud of yourself. WTG!!
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Thank you. Still at it. I want to hit my goal by next February.
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Anxiety is kicking my ass and pissing me off right now. Things have been really, really great in my marriage for the last few months. Partly due to hard work and party due to life just being great right now. So of course my anxiety is making me think I'm going to screw it up somehow and I'm over analyzing everything. Ugh... so annoying.
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Anxiety is a bitch I know well. I'm sorry you are going through that.
I know for me, focusing on exercise and adequate sleep are hugely helpful. Also - I recently found out that I am extremely Vit D deficient (most people in the USA are, even if you get sun) and that this can exacerbate anxiety. Might want to get your level checked if you haven't already.
Hang in there.
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Anxiety is a bitch I know well. I'm sorry you are going through that.
I know for me, focusing on exercise and adequate sleep are hugely helpful. Also - I recently found out that I am extremely Vit D deficient (most people in the USA are, even if you get sun) and that this can exacerbate anxiety. Might want to get your level checked if you haven't already.
Hang in there.
Sleep and exercise are big ones, yeah. I have a tendency to be unable to fall back asleep in the middle of the night if I'm going through a high anxiety period of time, so that just doubles down and makes things worse.
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I do think smokin hot pharmaceutical reps, golf junkets, and catered lunches everyday do have a way of convincing them that new and shiny is necessarily the way to go, though.
Agreed. And this shit happens on the regular. It is not unlike special interest groups donating to politicians. I'm all for healthcare providers being given information and research studies around pharmaceuticals and devices and treatments - but there should never be any gifting involved there, IMO.
It's that - and I agree on the gifting - but there's another element: when I was a kid, fancy glitzy musical commercials like "O-o-o-oZEMPIC!" didn't exist. It's one of the more brilliant marketing moves of all time - along with bottling water and selling for a unit price higher than gasoline in some instances - to have pharmaceuticals marketed directly to the patient, creating an alternate market force against the doctor. Especially smaller community doctors; who wants to feel left out? Who wants their patients to think they are out of the loop? What patient wants to think their doctor isn't at the cutting edge, or that their care isn't the latest and greatest?
Our healthcare is expensive, but it's a myth that any one entity is necessarily making "obscene profits" (I hate that phrase almost as much as I hate a rusty catheter); more is lost in the transactional aspect of our healthcare. So doctors - again, especially smaller community doctors - aren't swimming in cash, they can't always afford to tell patients "if you think you can get better care elsewhere, it's a free country". It's easier to prescribe the medicine and be done with it.
I had high blood pressure and my heart wasn't pumping correctly. I've had to take medication. Also, I've had blood clots multiple times so I have to be on blood thinners the rest of my life. They've been able to lower the amount I take with the weight loss so far. I was 437 last February. I'm down to 319 as of this morning. Goal is to get to 220. I feel so much better. Changed all of my eating habits. Had to. I do miss cake and ice cream but I'm so full with little to eat with having the gastric bypass surgery that it doesn't matter anymore.
Sorry, I meant to comment on this amazing progress before. I know it has not been an easy road but your progress is phenomenal and you should be very proud of yourself. WTG!!
Seconded. Almost didn't recognize you in that picture with Nick (and I'm not kidding)!!!
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Woke up with a head full of snot and what is apparently a pulled muscle in my back. I was fine when I went to bed last night.
#OldManProblems
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Woke up with a head full of snot and what is apparently a pulled muscle in my back. I was fine when I went to bed last night.
#OldManProblems
The adventures of aging..... :lol Love the periodic wake up to a random pulled muscle days. Those are the best.
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Woke up with a head full of snot and what is apparently a pulled muscle in my back. I was fine when I went to bed last night.
#OldManProblems
The adventures of aging..... :lol Love the periodic wake up to a random pulled muscle days. Those are the best.
It's pissing me off more than the congestion.
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Woke up with a head full of snot and what is apparently a pulled muscle in my back. I was fine when I went to bed last night.
#OldManProblems
The adventures of aging..... :lol Love the periodic wake up to a random pulled muscle days. Those are the best.
It's pissing me off more than the congestion.
At least the congestion you'd be able to use some over the counter medication if you chose to. Pulled muscles freaking suck...especially random ones where you have no idea how it happened or why?
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I went to bed last night worrying about a new boot I have to wear with my achilles issue on my left foot and forgot to wear my C-Pap mask last night. Woke up at 12:30 am and figured that out.
Damn old age.
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Please be careful with the boot and make sure you have time out of the boot to move your leg and foot.
My sister died of a pulmonary embolism not long after having foot surgery and had been keeping her foot in a boot. That makes one ripe for a DVT. We don't know for certain it was the boot (she had also had sinus surgery) but there is plenty of research that shows immobility increases risk of DVT. Even something as mild as being on a plane for relatively short time can increase risk.
Achilles issue suck ass though. Hope it feels better soon.
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I've had blood clots in my lungs so I'm on blood thinners the rest imof my life. (Eliquis)
I'm only wearing it to bed. Not durring the times I'm awake.
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This thread is giving me health anxiety. I won't even sit through a baseball game without taking a stroll around the house with this clot talk. :facepalm:
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Don't worry. My blood clots were from surgery after I had my spleen removed. It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
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Don't worry. My blood clots were from surgery after I had my spleen removed. It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
Well that's awful! I actually feel like a douche now. I'm sorry to hear you went though that Gizz! :heart
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I had irrational anger today at rice... fucking rice. It just kept flying everywhere which I tried to reheat and eat it. I think I need a nap.
This is hands down the best post ever. :lol
I'm using this for my signature, I love it and now I'm headed to the grocery store to take my frustrations out in the rice isle. :lol
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Don't worry. My blood clots were from surgery after I had my spleen removed. It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
Well that's awful! I actually feel like a douche now. I'm sorry to hear you went though that Gizz! :heart
No! I feel great. Just sucks I have to take pills the rest of my life for it but at least I'm here to mock myself about it!
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I leave the office at 4:00 to beat the hellish 40 miles of traffic home. My boss' boss just put a 60 minute on our calendar for 4:00. I hate meeting at that time as it is, but scheduling one with only 40 minutes warning really grinds my gears. I had dinner plans tonight that are now all fucked up. Had he put this on the calendar this morning instead of 3 minutes ago, I could have had time to rearrange my afternoon.
Worse yet, it's just a team "pulse check". Nothing urgent. No fire alarms going off. Just a meeting that we need to have so we can all flex a bit and so he can check off a box on an arbitrary development plan for the team.
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It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
YES!
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It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
YES!
I love you. Hey! Went to a vegan restaurant with Nick, Lisa and Ross from Haken. Food was excellent!
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I leave the office at 4:00 to beat the hellish 40 miles of traffic home. My boss' boss just put a 60 minute on our calendar for 4:00. I hate meeting at that time as it is, but scheduling one with only 40 minutes warning really grinds my gears. I had dinner plans tonight that are now all fucked up. Had he put this on the calendar this morning instead of 3 minutes ago, I could have had time to rearrange my afternoon.
Worse yet, it's just a team "pulse check". Nothing urgent. No fire alarms going off. Just a meeting that we need to have so we can all flex a bit and so he can check off a box on an arbitrary development plan for the team.
I know it's your boss, but you can't just say "sorry, this is a bit last minute and I can't make the meeting because of previous plans?" I know everyone's situation is different, but if work gets in the way of my life, I have no issue saying "sorry, this doesnt work for me" these days.
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It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
YES!
I love you. Hey! Went to a vegan restaurant with Nick, Lisa and Ross from Haken. Food was excellent!
Guess my invite was lost in the mail. :'(
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I leave the office at 4:00 to beat the hellish 40 miles of traffic home. My boss' boss just put a 60 minute on our calendar for 4:00. I hate meeting at that time as it is, but scheduling one with only 40 minutes warning really grinds my gears. I had dinner plans tonight that are now all fucked up. Had he put this on the calendar this morning instead of 3 minutes ago, I could have had time to rearrange my afternoon.
Worse yet, it's just a team "pulse check". Nothing urgent. No fire alarms going off. Just a meeting that we need to have so we can all flex a bit and so he can check off a box on an arbitrary development plan for the team.
That sucks.
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It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
YES!
I love you. Hey! Went to a vegan restaurant with Nick, Lisa and Ross from Haken. Food was excellent!
Guess my invite was lost in the mail. :'(
He's in New York today, reach out! I bet you can still get tickets!
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It was infected by Lymphoma. Does that make you feel better? :lol
YES!
I love you. Hey! Went to a vegan restaurant with Nick, Lisa and Ross from Haken. Food was excellent!
Guess my invite was lost in the mail. :'(
He's in New York today, reach out! I bet you can still get tickets!
I didn't get a ticket yet either, I'll be there (the Haken concert, not a vegan restaurant - nothing against it, just wasn't part of my plans tonight)
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I don't want to see Haken, I want to eat terrible vegan food with Kingly and Queenly and maybe Nick!
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE THREAD NOW
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I don't want to see Haken, I want to eat terrible vegan food with Kingly and Queenly and maybe Nick!
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE THREAD NOW
I was pissed off that you were not there. Now this fits the tread.
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Woke up with a head full of snot and what is apparently a pulled muscle in my back. I was fine when I went to bed last night.
#OldManProblems
UPDATE:
The amount of snot that I have expelled today is truly remarkable.
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Woke up with a head full of snot and what is apparently a pulled muscle in my back. I was fine when I went to bed last night.
#OldManProblems
UPDATE:
The amount of snot that I have expelled today is truly remarkable.
I spent over a week expelling what I can only assume is my weight in snot. It was terrible.
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I leave the office at 4:00 to beat the hellish 40 miles of traffic home. My boss' boss just put a 60 minute on our calendar for 4:00. I hate meeting at that time as it is, but scheduling one with only 40 minutes warning really grinds my gears. I had dinner plans tonight that are now all fucked up. Had he put this on the calendar this morning instead of 3 minutes ago, I could have had time to rearrange my afternoon.
Worse yet, it's just a team "pulse check". Nothing urgent. No fire alarms going off. Just a meeting that we need to have so we can all flex a bit and so he can check off a box on an arbitrary development plan for the team.
I know it's your boss, but you can't just say "sorry, this is a bit last minute and I can't make the meeting because of previous plans?" I know everyone's situation is different, but if work gets in the way of my life, I have no issue saying "sorry, this doesnt work for me" these days.
This is where my job RULES. I can usually claim "another call" since I usually have anywhere from 2 to 4 issues burning at any given time and can call someone to move those along (thereby taking less than the allotted 60 minutes) or I can take the call from the car, and kill two birds with one stone.
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Woke up with a head full of snot and what is apparently a pulled muscle in my back. I was fine when I went to bed last night.
#OldManProblems
UPDATE:
The amount of snot that I have expelled today is truly remarkable.
And it never ends, even when you think you got it all... BAMM!
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I leave the office at 4:00 to beat the hellish 40 miles of traffic home. My boss' boss just put a 60 minute on our calendar for 4:00. I hate meeting at that time as it is, but scheduling one with only 40 minutes warning really grinds my gears. I had dinner plans tonight that are now all fucked up. Had he put this on the calendar this morning instead of 3 minutes ago, I could have had time to rearrange my afternoon.
Worse yet, it's just a team "pulse check". Nothing urgent. No fire alarms going off. Just a meeting that we need to have so we can all flex a bit and so he can check off a box on an arbitrary development plan for the team.
Nah mate, this is the situation where you go 'sorry I have prearranged plans or an appointment I can't reschedule'. Don't put up with that shit. That's not on.
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I leave the office at 4:00 to beat the hellish 40 miles of traffic home. My boss' boss just put a 60 minute on our calendar for 4:00. I hate meeting at that time as it is, but scheduling one with only 40 minutes warning really grinds my gears. I had dinner plans tonight that are now all fucked up. Had he put this on the calendar this morning instead of 3 minutes ago, I could have had time to rearrange my afternoon.
Worse yet, it's just a team "pulse check". Nothing urgent. No fire alarms going off. Just a meeting that we need to have so we can all flex a bit and so he can check off a box on an arbitrary development plan for the team.
I know it's your boss, but you can't just say "sorry, this is a bit last minute and I can't make the meeting because of previous plans?" I know everyone's situation is different, but if work gets in the way of my life, I have no issue saying "sorry, this doesnt work for me" these days.
This is where my job RULES. I can usually claim "another call" since I usually have anywhere from 2 to 4 issues burning at any given time and can call someone to move those along (thereby taking less than the allotted 60 minutes) or I can take the call from the car, and kill two birds with one stone.
Yeah, my job has it's moments. If something critical breaks and I had plans, sorry, my plans are scrapped and it comes with my job, but that's rare. For meetings or just basic day to day work, sorry, it's not more important than my life outside of work and I have no issue making that known these days.
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CNN
Great job not doing any sort of pauses without a fact checker last night
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I leave the office at 4:00 to beat the hellish 40 miles of traffic home. My boss' boss just put a 60 minute on our calendar for 4:00. I hate meeting at that time as it is, but scheduling one with only 40 minutes warning really grinds my gears. I had dinner plans tonight that are now all fucked up. Had he put this on the calendar this morning instead of 3 minutes ago, I could have had time to rearrange my afternoon.
Worse yet, it's just a team "pulse check". Nothing urgent. No fire alarms going off. Just a meeting that we need to have so we can all flex a bit and so he can check off a box on an arbitrary development plan for the team.
I know it's your boss, but you can't just say "sorry, this is a bit last minute and I can't make the meeting because of previous plans?" I know everyone's situation is different, but if work gets in the way of my life, I have no issue saying "sorry, this doesnt work for me" these days.
This is where my job RULES. I can usually claim "another call" since I usually have anywhere from 2 to 4 issues burning at any given time and can call someone to move those along (thereby taking less than the allotted 60 minutes) or I can take the call from the car, and kill two birds with one stone.
Yeah, my job has it's moments. If something critical breaks and I had plans, sorry, my plans are scrapped and it comes with my job, but that's rare. For meetings or just basic day to day work, sorry, it's not more important than my life outside of work and I have no issue making that known these days.
Pretty much same deal. If a pump breaks or a staff member falls ill I'll always stay back but if the boss wants to schedule a bullshit non important meeting last minute at the end of the day, nah champ, not today.
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My idiot boss who has been targeting me was at it again yesterday afternoon. One of his precious ring ins who is working with us now fucked up and I called her out on it when she arrogantly tried to just belittle me over email. I politely told her the lack of communication was not good enough and affected my operations. Got her back up apparently and now funnily enough he rang me a couple hours later that he had a HR issue come to light from a couple of months ago and he needs to sit with me for a statement.
I declined as I know it's a tactic to bait me and I don't trust him. I know what he is referring to, me and a guy from IT had a slight disagreement a while back over something. We nutted it out though but he was a little bitch about it and did mention it to his boss which was brought up in a meeting between my bosses a few weeks later. Nothing came of it officially and I've worked with the guy numerous times since with no issues. But now all of a sudden it's a serious HR issue and he needs a statement. I told no I'll email him a statement.
He mentioned on the phone 'an incident in March.' Whet I went back and looked for an email as I remember the exact email it was over, it was actually first week in Feb so I'm asking him to clarify the date from his end as I'm calling bullshit and he's just once again trying to bring up dirt from wherever he can cause I upset one of his henchmen. Still waiting for a reply on the date. See what today brings but my next step is to say to him, 'no, with everything over the last year, I'll send my statement directly to HR. If there is a grievance, I'm happy to go through the process as I took responsibility for my part but if it's a HR issue, I'll deal directly with them.' I'm calling his bluff. Cunt not going to try and manipulate and bully anymore.
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Jesus man.
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Jesus man.
:lol Pretty much. Meh, I didn't lose any sleep. I know I get to him more than he gets to me these days but I don't care on his status, I'm not still alive to take shit from a cunt. People sometimes fuck up at their jobs and they need to be told. I wasn't even harsh to her and he was tagged into the emails so he could see the conversation, yet her arrogance and incompetence obviously is not a problem. If they are too fucking soft to take it and go and cry to their friend/boss, fuck off. But don't try and manipulate and get one back at me. You've been fucking trying mate for over 12 months, you won't win.
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I hate assholes in positions like myself. He's slimy and it will bite him in the back someday.
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I hate assholes in positions like myself. He's slimy and it will bite him in the back someday.
Yes it will mate, patience.
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My idiot boss who has been targeting me was at it again yesterday afternoon. One of his precious ring ins who is working with us now fucked up and I called her out on it when she arrogantly tried to just belittle me over email. I politely told her the lack of communication was not good enough and affected my operations. Got her back up apparently and now funnily enough he rang me a couple hours later that he had a HR issue come to light from a couple of months ago and he needs to sit with me for a statement.
I declined as I know it's a tactic to bait me and I don't trust him. I know what he is referring to, me and a guy from IT had a slight disagreement a while back over something. We nutted it out though but he was a little bitch about it and did mention it to his boss which was brought up in a meeting between my bosses a few weeks later. Nothing came of it officially and I've worked with the guy numerous times since with no issues. But now all of a sudden it's a serious HR issue and he needs a statement. I told no I'll email him a statement.
He mentioned on the phone 'an incident in March.' Whet I went back and looked for an email as I remember the exact email it was over, it was actually first week in Feb so I'm asking him to clarify the date from his end as I'm calling bullshit and he's just once again trying to bring up dirt from wherever he can cause I upset one of his henchmen. Still waiting for a reply on the date. See what today brings but my next step is to say to him, 'no, with everything over the last year, I'll send my statement directly to HR. If there is a grievance, I'm happy to go through the process as I took responsibility for my part but if it's a HR issue, I'll deal directly with them.' I'm calling his bluff. Cunt not going to try and manipulate and bully anymore.
Be careful, but know that at least in the States, "retaliation" is a pretty big thing, and bringing up something minor from MONTHS ago days after you called out his teacher's pet just does not look good in that light.
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My idiot boss who has been targeting me was at it again yesterday afternoon. One of his precious ring ins who is working with us now fucked up and I called her out on it when she arrogantly tried to just belittle me over email. I politely told her the lack of communication was not good enough and affected my operations. Got her back up apparently and now funnily enough he rang me a couple hours later that he had a HR issue come to light from a couple of months ago and he needs to sit with me for a statement.
I declined as I know it's a tactic to bait me and I don't trust him. I know what he is referring to, me and a guy from IT had a slight disagreement a while back over something. We nutted it out though but he was a little bitch about it and did mention it to his boss which was brought up in a meeting between my bosses a few weeks later. Nothing came of it officially and I've worked with the guy numerous times since with no issues. But now all of a sudden it's a serious HR issue and he needs a statement. I told no I'll email him a statement.
He mentioned on the phone 'an incident in March.' Whet I went back and looked for an email as I remember the exact email it was over, it was actually first week in Feb so I'm asking him to clarify the date from his end as I'm calling bullshit and he's just once again trying to bring up dirt from wherever he can cause I upset one of his henchmen. Still waiting for a reply on the date. See what today brings but my next step is to say to him, 'no, with everything over the last year, I'll send my statement directly to HR. If there is a grievance, I'm happy to go through the process as I took responsibility for my part but if it's a HR issue, I'll deal directly with them.' I'm calling his bluff. Cunt not going to try and manipulate and bully anymore.
Be careful, but know that at least in the States, "retaliation" is a pretty big thing, and bringing up something minor from MONTHS ago days after you called out his teacher's pet just does not look good in that light.
I didn't know that was actually a thing but yeah, seems pretty obvious the case here.
He gave me a response about me asking for the date this morning saying;
'That could be the incorrect month as I was not aware of the event at the time. I think it's best you just send me your recollection and details.'
Umm.....if you are facilitating an investigation.....you know the date. Nice try pal. Responded asking that question and said I'll contact and forward a statement to HR if they require it.
I've forwarded that to HR.
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Salmonella poisoning.
You hear about contaminations and outbreaks but if you haven't had it or seen it first-hand then you don't think much about it but I'm telling you that it's one of those "worst enemy" things and you will wish you were dead many times during the cycle.
After pooping 3x an hour for 4 days (I wish I were exaggerating) you know what’s left to come out? Nothing… it’s just your soul leaving your body in disgusting acidic-liquid explosions.
At some point wetting the toilet paper stops working so it’s right into the tub for a power wash. After the 4 days it gradually slows down.
It's been 10 days and I think I'm finally nearing the end but I'm very weak from barely eating and I've lost 15lbs. As bad as the pooping was I think the cramps that preceded it were the worst part.
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I was baking frozen chicken tenders. Preheat beeped that oven was ready. Set the timer and all is good.
At some point the heating element broke but not after crisping the batter enough for me to think it was fine.
Timer goes off and everything and a few bites of the thin part of the tender was ok and then I hit the raw part. I barely had any but that was enough.
There’s no medications to recover faster, only to help with cramps and poop, so just have to ride it out.
Public health called me to figure out the cause and see if there’s any reason to be concerned about widespread contamination but it’s just the broken oven.
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PS - Extra-special thanks to all of our amazing nurses for having to deal with shit like this on a regular basis.
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That's awful man! Salmonella poisoning feels like a flu with a stomach virus.
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I had that years ago from chicken from a fast food joint. It's as bad as you make it out for sure. I'm guilty of over cooking chicken to this day in fear of ever going through it again.
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Oh man, that's terrible.
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That sounds rough
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That sounds utterly miserable.
I guess it's one of those things where you never have to 'wonder' (after the fact) if you under-cooked your chicken.
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I guess it’s just me be I can’t stop focusing on the comment that he lost 15 lbs … I’m undercooking some old chicken right now. Totally worth it!
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I had raw chicken twice in my 30's from Outback Steakhouse. I told my parents that I refuse to eat there. It was so gross.
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I had raw chicken twice in my 30's from Outback Steakhouse. I told my parents that I refuse to eat there. It was so gross.
Why on earth would you order it again the second time?!
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2 different spots. Both time, my parents wanted to eat there. After the second time I told them never again.
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2 different spots. Both time, my parents wanted to eat there. After the second time I told them never again.
Jesus. I'm not sure if that's just pure bad luck or bad training practices across the whole company perhaps?
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From my bad experience, I don't get chicken if I go out just incase. Steak and always steak.
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Only time I had to deal with it. Everywhere else, chicken has been good to me. Lol
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Only time I had to deal with it. Everywhere else, chicken has been good to me. Lol
True. I mean, you look at the ratios of good and bad experiences, it's next to nothing from a statistical point of view. But those bad experiences just stick with you lol.
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But those 2 experiences from one chain restaurant has altered my view of them forever.
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But those 2 experiences from one chain restaurant has altered my view of them forever.
Of course. The one time I had it from a fast food chain, I have never gone back. Haven't even thought about it. It was a fast food chicken place and they couldn't even fucking cook a chicken properly, fuck that.
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Thanks for the support, everyone.
I went back to Doc and got some antibiotics. This is supposed to only last 4-7 days without antibiotics and now I'm at 12 days. I can finally sleep through the night and getting my appetite back but my poop still isn't firming-up.
The other thing is that I can't prepare food for my family. I can't even cut strawberries for them. Washing hands is key, of course, but it's just not worth the risk until I'm 100% better. The only silver lining here is that it's not spread through the air like norovirus or rotovirus so I don't have to isolate.
One thing that doesn't get talked about are the flu symptoms. Every other day I'd get full-body aches and pains and chills that would last a few hours. I never really heard this was part of salmonella poisoning so wasn't ready for it and it hits hard, man.
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They gave you antibiotics for food poisoning??
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They gave you antibiotics for food poisoning??
Salmonella is a bacterium.
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They gave you antibiotics for food poisoning??
Salmonella is a bacterium.
Yeah right. Must have been fucking bad for them to prescribe them. Unless that's normal, dunno.
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They gave you antibiotics for food poisoning??
Salmonella is a bacterium.
Yeah right. Must have been fucking bad for them to prescribe them. Unless that's normal, dunno.
I think they’ll usually at least offer them for any bacterial infection.
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Cancer. F#ck cancer.
Close friends (my best friend from high school) have had a few bouts of it over the last 10 years, but was cancer-free for a few years. It's back, and now it's in his wife's bone which only gets there through the blood.
FFS.
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WTF?? Both of them??
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Dammit. I'm so sorry Chad.
I'm leaving work soon to go to a wake. My best bud from high school father passed away last Friday.
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I really try to be sympathetic to pharmacists and their refill taking minions. It's really got to be a terrible job dealing with doctors and grouchy, often times sick and miserable patients. That said, how hard can it be to keep all of my prescriptions coming at the same damn time? I've taken the exact same 7 meds for 10 years now, and the only thing I ask is that they all come at the same time so I can load up four 7 day dispensers and be done with it. My longtime (seven or so years) pharmacy has done a swell job of it up until six weeks ago, and every refill since has been screwed up. It just shouldn't be that hard. I explain to them on the phone every time, hold off on any until they're all ready! "Yes sir, says that right here in the notes," and then I get shorted one. "Oh, the doctor hasn't sent it in yet." Fucking cunt.
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Salmonella sounds really shitty. (sorry, it's been a day :P)
My husband had h pylori in 2016. He lost about 20 pounds in 2 weeks and literally turned grey. He looked like death walking. Unfortunately this was exactly the same time one our kids graduated from high school. Good times. :tdwn
And EB - I hear that. I literally take one medication. It hasn't changed in about 4 years. One day I pick it up and suddenly it costs about twice what I've been paying because they just opted to give me the brand name instead of generic. I'm like - fucking WHY?
Our healthcare system is literally hanging on by threads. I guess we shouldn't be surprised this rapid decline will include pharmacies.
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Real Madrid losing against Manchester City
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My wife testing positive for Covid.
Meaning she loses the two weddings she was gonna officiate this weekend, losing thousands of dollars in doing so.
And if I have it, I lose my weekend recording drums.
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That fucking blows. Hope she is not feeling too poorly. And that you manage to avoid it.
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That fucking blows. Hope she is not feeling too poorly. And that you manage to avoid it.
Yea. She’s not feeling great. Slept most of the day. Fever. Sore throat.
I was sick as hell two weeks ago but feel fine. I just need to not have it till after I record.
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So you actually play the drums?
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So you actually play the drums?
Adami plays more than just drums.
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So you actually play the drums?
Adami plays more than just drums.
Well I figured cymbals was understood.
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So you actually play the drums?
For 25 years, yup. Booked 3 days at a studio in Jersey (I know, gross) to record drums to my new album. Even though I have all the gear to record my own drums, I can't do it in an apartment and renting out a space would, surprisingly, be more expensive and difficult.
Edit: I also play guitar, bass, and can BS some keys. And if you're completely okay with how James is singing these days, I can almost sing too.
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21 years ago my neighbors adopted a baby girl named Rachel from China. 10 years later her father, my friend, committed suicide and that crushed me. Yesterday her Mother drank herself to death while Rachel graduated from college. I'm completely devastated.
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WTF?? Both of them??
No, just the wife.
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WTF?? Both of them??
No, just the wife.
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So you actually play the drums?
For 25 years, yup. Booked 3 days at a studio in Jersey (I know, gross) to record drums to my new album. Even though I have all the gear to record my own drums, I can't do it in an apartment and renting out a space would, surprisingly, be more expensive and difficult.
Edit: I also play guitar, bass, and can BS some keys. And if you're completely okay with how James is singing these days, I can almost sing too.
Your NEW album? Does that mean you have an old album? Are you in a band or is it a one man thingy?
WTF?? Both of them??
No, just the wife.
Ok, gotcha.
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21 years ago my neighbors adopted a baby girl named Rachel from China. 10 years later her father, my friend, committed suicide and that crushed me. Yesterday her Mother drank herself to death while Rachel graduated from college. I'm completely devastated.
Wow, that's fucked.
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WTF?? Both of them??
No, just the wife.
The wife never made it to her graduation. Rachel is inconsolable.
I was responding to Tim about my high school friend’s wife having cancer for the 3rd time.
I’m sorry to hear of the situation with Rachel - that sounds absolutely horrific.
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WTF?? Both of them??
No, just the wife.
The wife never made it to her graduation. Rachel is inconsolable.
I was responding to Tim about my high school friend’s wife having cancer for the 3rd time.
I’m sorry to hear of the situation with Rachel - that sounds absolutely horrific.
Thank you! I'm very sorry to hear about your friends wife. That's AWFUL.
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So you actually play the drums?
For 25 years, yup. Booked 3 days at a studio in Jersey (I know, gross) to record drums to my new album. Even though I have all the gear to record my own drums, I can't do it in an apartment and renting out a space would, surprisingly, be more expensive and difficult.
Edit: I also play guitar, bass, and can BS some keys. And if you're completely okay with how James is singing these days, I can almost sing too.
Your NEW album? Does that mean you have an old album? Are you in a band or is it a one man thingy?
Kind of an Ayreon thing but less cheesy and not nearly as good. I do the music and hire vocalists since I can’t sing.
I promoted the old stuff a bit on the board but it didn’t seem to be people’s thing. My sig below has a link to my last two albums.
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21 years ago my neighbors adopted a baby girl named Rachel from China. 10 years later her father, my friend, committed suicide and that crushed me. Yesterday her Mother drank herself to death while Rachel graduated from college. I'm completely devastated.
Wow, that's fucked.
Here's the kicker. My son was the paramedic that responded to the 911 call. :sad:
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Damn. I'm so sorry. That is tough to read.
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Depression/mental illness is real. People need to support more and judge less.
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Depression/mental illness is real. People need to support more and judge less.
Indeed. Especially before it gets that bad. A lot of people, even clients themselves, seem to think that only really severe cases need help. It’s not great.
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21 years ago my neighbors adopted a baby girl named Rachel from China. 10 years later her father, my friend, committed suicide and that crushed me. Yesterday her Mother drank herself to death while Rachel graduated from college. I'm completely devastated.
Wow, that's fucked.
Here's the kicker. My son was the paramedic that responded to the 911 call. :sad:
Fucking hell mate. That's brutal.
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Depression/mental illness is real. People need to support more and judge less.
Indeed. Especially before it gets that bad. A lot of people, even clients themselves, seem to think that only really severe cases need help. It’s not great.
So many different levels too. All levels need help. It's nice to hear from someone who isn't invested like family members are.
Sometimes you need to hear from the outside your support group.
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After I put up my post about Real Madrid's loss, I took the time to read through the subsequent comments in the thread, and honestly, it's put things into perspective. My frustrations are pretty minor compared to the difficulties some of you are enduring.
I genuinely empathize with what some of you are going through right now. :heart
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So you actually play the drums?
For 25 years, yup. Booked 3 days at a studio in Jersey (I know, gross) to record drums to my new album. Even though I have all the gear to record my own drums, I can't do it in an apartment and renting out a space would, surprisingly, be more expensive and difficult.
Edit: I also play guitar, bass, and can BS some keys. And if you're completely okay with how James is singing these days, I can almost sing too.
Your NEW album? Does that mean you have an old album? Are you in a band or is it a one man thingy?
Kind of an Ayreon thing but less cheesy and not nearly as good. I do the music and hire vocalists since I can’t sing.
I promoted the old stuff a bit on the board but it didn’t seem to be people’s thing. My sig below has a link to my last two albums.
I've been hearing about these "albums" for years now. I think they're in the same category as "my girlfriend from Canada". :)
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So you actually play the drums?
For 25 years, yup. Booked 3 days at a studio in Jersey (I know, gross) to record drums to my new album. Even though I have all the gear to record my own drums, I can't do it in an apartment and renting out a space would, surprisingly, be more expensive and difficult.
Edit: I also play guitar, bass, and can BS some keys. And if you're completely okay with how James is singing these days, I can almost sing too.
Your NEW album? Does that mean you have an old album? Are you in a band or is it a one man thingy?
Kind of an Ayreon thing but less cheesy and not nearly as good. I do the music and hire vocalists since I can’t sing.
I promoted the old stuff a bit on the board but it didn’t seem to be people’s thing. My sig below has a link to my last two albums.
I've been hearing about these "albums" for years now. I think they're in the same category as "my girlfriend from Canada". :)
First of all, Chad is real.
Second of all, they're literally in my signature. And have been for years.
And Chad is real dammit!
AND SO IS GEORGE GLASS!
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21 years ago my neighbors adopted a baby girl named Rachel from China. 10 years later her father, my friend, committed suicide and that crushed me. Yesterday her Mother drank herself to death while Rachel graduated from college. I'm completely devastated.
That really is pretty awful. Criminy.
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Adami's albums are real. I have a couple.
I liked them, but what do I know?
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Being a car owner and a homeowner.
Few weeks ago a hailstorm messed up the front of my house but not enough to require a claim. I still have 3 mangled window screens I have to replace. The original builder used a wood beam under my sliding door and placed it right on concrete and just painted it. It rotted to pieces and I had my contractor do it right. Looks great, but wasn't cheap.
My wife's car snapped a tie rod last year which also broke the rack and pinion. Had a new rack put in which was not long after I put a set of really expensive tires on it. 2 months ago, the rack starts leaking on the passenger side. Got it replaced for free but also noticed the front tires were ruined. Sadly, the shop that did the rack work is an hour away as it happened a bit far from home so I didn't get it towed to my regular shop. Big mistake. I replaced the ruined tires and then took the car to my regular shop to check the alignment the day after I got it back. It was all out of alignment. Well, yesterday I find that rack is now leaking on the drivers side a whole 2 months after getting it installed. Now I have to go back to that shop since they will do it for free again. Then I have to take it to my shop to fix their alignment. If it happens again I might eat the cost and have my shop do the fourth rack when this third one invariably fails.
Same day my wife grabs a garbage bag from under the sink and says it is soaking wet. Come to find the garbage disposal is pissing all over the place.
My Dad used to always talk about one of the primary benefits of home ownership is the equity and the fact that you can write off you mortgage interest on your taxes. Well, President Cheeto took the interest aspect away from me and tanked my taxes ever since his bigly new tax plan came into effect. I'm getting too old to keep fixing all of this crap and really getting nothing in return. Oh yeah, needed a new battery in my rider as well and that was after having to get my snowblower serviced over the winter since it wouldn't start.
Life has just crapped on us lately and it's put me in a really bad mood. Needed to vent.
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Yeah, I learned the coordination aspect of front end repair, alignment, and tires in my teens. Thankfully it was honest people helping to keep me from going wrong in my case. You really gotta plan the whole thing out well. Knowledge I used a few years ago when I got the car I'm currently driving. And since tires are stupidly expensive now (stupider than most things), it's all the more important.
Also, how do you break a tie rod end? Hit a curb or something?
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So you actually play the drums?
For 25 years, yup. Booked 3 days at a studio in Jersey (I know, gross) to record drums to my new album. Even though I have all the gear to record my own drums, I can't do it in an apartment and renting out a space would, surprisingly, be more expensive and difficult.
Edit: I also play guitar, bass, and can BS some keys. And if you're completely okay with how James is singing these days, I can almost sing too.
Your NEW album? Does that mean you have an old album? Are you in a band or is it a one man thingy?
Kind of an Ayreon thing but less cheesy and not nearly as good. I do the music and hire vocalists since I can’t sing.
I promoted the old stuff a bit on the board but it didn’t seem to be people’s thing. My sig below has a link to my last two albums.
I've been hearing about these "albums" for years now. I think they're in the same category as "my girlfriend from Canada". :)
First of all, Chad is real.
Second of all, they're literally in my signature. And have been for years.
And Chad is real dammit!
AND SO IS GEORGE GLASS!
I'm a real something, that's for sure.
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Yeah, I learned the coordination aspect of front end repair, alignment, and tires in my teens. Thankfully it was honest people helping to keep me from going wrong in my case. You really gotta plan the whole thing out well. Knowledge I used a few years ago when I got the car I'm currently driving. And since tires are stupidly expensive now (stupider than most things), it's all the more important.
Also, how do you break a tie rod end? Hit a curb or something?
Wish I knew. I had taken my wife to a doctor appointment and we were getting ready to head home. Came up to a stop sign, waited my turn and started to make the right turn. Car just sort of jerked. Hit the gas and just jerked. Got out and the driver's side wheel was making a right turn. Go to the other side and that wheel was making a left turn. Doesn't really work. And get this, I thought I was saving some money getting it towed where I did which was just over a mile away from where it broke. Got to the shop and the guy charges me $351 for a 1 mile tow. I thought it would just be a tie rod. Had I known it took the rack with it and I would have had it towed the 30-40 miles to my shop. Dad told me to get AAA or something to get the extended towing. We live kind of far from everything. Been dragging my feet as everything else breaks around me further draining my bank account.
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I had to go to Walmart today during peak foot traffic time. I absolutely love people randomly stopping in front of me every 40 feet.
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I had to go to Walmart today during peak foot traffic time. I absolutely love people randomly stopping in front of me every 40 feet.
Self awareness is rare these days
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I had to go to Walmart today during peak foot traffic time. I absolutely love people randomly stopping in front of me every 40 feet.
It's so true. :lol
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I had to go to Walmart today during peak foot traffic time. I absolutely love people randomly stopping in front of me every 40 feet.
I refuse to go to Costco during peak hours for this very reason.
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I had to go to Walmart today during peak foot traffic time. I absolutely love people randomly stopping in front of me every 40 feet.
Self awareness is rare these days
People are just fucking oblivious to everything around them. So self absorbed.
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Yeah, I learned the coordination aspect of front end repair, alignment, and tires in my teens. Thankfully it was honest people helping to keep me from going wrong in my case. You really gotta plan the whole thing out well. Knowledge I used a few years ago when I got the car I'm currently driving. And since tires are stupidly expensive now (stupider than most things), it's all the more important.
Also, how do you break a tie rod end? Hit a curb or something?
Wish I knew. I had taken my wife to a doctor appointment and we were getting ready to head home. Came up to a stop sign, waited my turn and started to make the right turn. Car just sort of jerked. Hit the gas and just jerked. Got out and the driver's side wheel was making a right turn. Go to the other side and that wheel was making a left turn. Doesn't really work. And get this, I thought I was saving some money getting it towed where I did which was just over a mile away from where it broke. Got to the shop and the guy charges me $351 for a 1 mile tow. I thought it would just be a tie rod. Had I known it took the rack with it and I would have had it towed the 30-40 miles to my shop. Dad told me to get AAA or something to get the extended towing. We live kind of far from everything. Been dragging my feet as everything else breaks around me further draining my bank account.
I'm sure others might have a different opinion, but I have AAA, and cards for my kids as well, and it has been a veritable LIFE SAVER on multiple occasions. That 30-40 mile tow would have cost you only the time to wait for the truck to get there.
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Bill, 100% on. AAA plus has saved me many times.
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Yeah, I learned the coordination aspect of front end repair, alignment, and tires in my teens. Thankfully it was honest people helping to keep me from going wrong in my case. You really gotta plan the whole thing out well. Knowledge I used a few years ago when I got the car I'm currently driving. And since tires are stupidly expensive now (stupider than most things), it's all the more important.
Also, how do you break a tie rod end? Hit a curb or something?
Wish I knew. I had taken my wife to a doctor appointment and we were getting ready to head home. Came up to a stop sign, waited my turn and started to make the right turn. Car just sort of jerked. Hit the gas and just jerked. Got out and the driver's side wheel was making a right turn. Go to the other side and that wheel was making a left turn. Doesn't really work. And get this, I thought I was saving some money getting it towed where I did which was just over a mile away from where it broke. Got to the shop and the guy charges me $351 for a 1 mile tow. I thought it would just be a tie rod. Had I known it took the rack with it and I would have had it towed the 30-40 miles to my shop. Dad told me to get AAA or something to get the extended towing. We live kind of far from everything. Been dragging my feet as everything else breaks around me further draining my bank account.
I'm sure others might have a different opinion, but I have AAA, and cards for my kids as well, and it has been a veritable LIFE SAVER on multiple occasions. That 30-40 mile tow would have cost you only the time to wait for the truck to get there.
Yeah, not AAA, but some other variety is attached to my insurance. Since I only drive older cars there will always be a time when it comes into play.
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Bill, 100% on. AAA plus has saved me many times.
Indeed. My mom made sure I had AAA when I started driving and I've had it ever since. Love it.
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
Depends on what kind of sick. Either way, though, I'm sorry you're not feeling well and I hope you're better soon.
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
Yikes
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
Dayum. Sorry to hear that, Adami. Hope you can bang you're way through it - literally and figuratively.
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
Dayum. Sorry to hear that, Adami. Hope you can bang you're way through it - literally and figuratively.
I think it's sort of inconsiderate to expose your partner to some virus/bacteria just for sex, though. I think Adami is classier then that.
:)
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I’m not.
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My son burnt his hand on the stove yesterday. My wife let him get too close to it while she was cooking, and it happened in a flash while her back was turned.
Now he's got 2nd degree burns on his fingertips. I'm so mad at my wife for doing something stupid. We all make mistakes, my son will heal before too long, but I can't shake the feeling that things have gotten really bad with the wife. I sad some awful things about her being untrustworthy and negligent, and I'm still really mad at her. I want to be over it though, I can see how guilty she feels and how awful she feels about making the mistake. I'm just... still upset. Objectively, I want to be over it. But something's just not letting me be over it fully.
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My son burnt his hand on the stove yesterday. My wife let him get too close to it while she was cooking, and it happened in a flash while her back was turned.
Now he's got 2nd degree burns on his fingertips. I'm so mad at my wife for doing something stupid. We all make mistakes, my son will heal before too long, but I can't shake the feeling that things have gotten really bad with the wife. I sad some awful things about her being untrustworthy and negligent, and I'm still really mad at her. I want to be over it though, I can see how guilty she feels and how awful she feels about making the mistake. I'm just... still upset. Objectively, I want to be over it. But something's just not letting me be over it fully.
As a parent of two kids that lived through this period to adulthood, my advice is to let that shit go. These things happen, and something similar is most likely going to happen with you being at fault as well. It's the nature of the game.
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Sometimes she may feel overwhelmed and her focus was just off. I'm with Hef. If it becomes a pattern then I would address it.
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My son burnt his hand on the stove yesterday. My wife let him get too close to it while she was cooking, and it happened in a flash while her back was turned.
Now he's got 2nd degree burns on his fingertips. I'm so mad at my wife for doing something stupid. We all make mistakes, my son will heal before too long, but I can't shake the feeling that things have gotten really bad with the wife. I sad some awful things about her being untrustworthy and negligent, and I'm still really mad at her. I want to be over it though, I can see how guilty she feels and how awful she feels about making the mistake. I'm just... still upset. Objectively, I want to be over it. But something's just not letting me be over it fully.
Unless you are a perfect parent, I'd recommend you check yourself. You are saying that she feels guilty and awful about what happened. Do think that calling her untrustworthy and negligent is helping that?
I don't know if this is your first child or not, but even the most attentive and perfect parents can make mistakes that lead to injury. Just ask any ER doctor and/or pediatrician.
I'm sorry that your son got hurt and I hope he is doing fine now. But parenting is all about team work. When one person on the team makes a mistake, it isn't helpful when the rest of the team berates them for it. If this is a pattern and not a one off, I'd be asking some questions about how she is doing. Is she adequately rested? Is she getting help around the house with chores like cooking? Is she getting time to recharge her mental and emotional state? Is she taking care of her physical health?
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Thanks all, and yes you're all right, including those who reached out via PM. I really appreciate the support and I'll say first and foremost my son is doing very well, and is very happy aside from having to do everything with one hand for a little while while his blisters heal. We've got a follow-up with his pediatrician tomorrow. I left his status out of the original post because I saw it as more a message in the bottle to cast off my own angry feelings.
Had a good talk with the wife a little bit ago over our lunch breaks, and we're working on it. I am definitely aware of what everyone has said thus far, and we both just need some time to get passed what was a pretty horrifying event for all of us, made worse by how we both reacted to it. Unfortunately I think sometimes we wait until these big moments to address the little issues and discussions that should have being had all along, and if there's one thing my wife and I are both taking away from this, it's that we need to make more time to talk one on one, rather than just immediately retreating to our own little worlds for a bit once our son goes to bed.
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
Dayum. Sorry to hear that, Adami. Hope you can bang you're way through it - literally and figuratively.
Knocked out the album feeling like crap. Not sure how. Came home and tested positive for Covid. Huzzah!
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Ugh. Get some rest you. Hope you get better soon.
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That Scenes from a Hat is hung up again by forgetful, inconsiderate, holier than thou, lazy, little shits. If y'all can't be bothered, don't fucking play. It's pretty simple.
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Oops. I'm all of that. Lol. Picking now.
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
Dayum. Sorry to hear that, Adami. Hope you can bang you're way through it - literally and figuratively.
Knocked out the album feeling like crap. Not sure how. Came home and tested positive for Covid. Huzzah!
Glad you got it knocked out. Get some rest!
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Woke up sick. I have 10 hours today in a studio to record 5 songs on drums. This isn’t going to go well.
Dayum. Sorry to hear that, Adami. Hope you can bang you're way through it - literally and figuratively.
Knocked out the album feeling like crap. Not sure how. Came home and tested positive for Covid. Huzzah!
Hope you're better soon. I wish that on no one, least of all a friend.
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That sucks Adami, get well soon
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Been at work for 12 hours. Working late today because of some work I need to supervise but it was supposed to start at 6 and the contractor just now finally answered my call saying he's 20 mins away :tdwn
Good thing is a I get to leave early tomorrow, so I'll have extra time before the DT show
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Renovations are coming to an end. Our contractor is 98% done his shit - just a couple of small things to resolve, and mrs.jingle and I are working through a lot of other things to get the house back in working order (painting, some new barn doors; putting everything back where it belongs etc ...). We hadn't been running our AC until we got the ducts cleaned, not wanting to re-circulate all the dust in the ducts. So, that got done last week. Turn the AC on, and it doesn't seem to be pumping much cold air. Scheduled a service call yesterday, and yup... she's frozen shut. The unit is original to the house (2004), so it's seen the end of it's life - it's also a model/type of AC that's been decommissioned since 2005, and completely out of manufacture since 2020. Buddy check on the furnace too while he's at it - yup, that fucker is also original to the house, and bound to crap out at any time (it's also one of the lower end brands, apparently).
So, tack on a few grand more to the renovation tab. :metal
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Renovations are coming to an end. Our contractor is 98% done his shit - just a couple of small things to resolve, and mrs.jingle and I are working through a lot of other things to get the house back in working order (painting, some new barn doors; putting everything back where it belongs etc ...). We hadn't been running our AC until we got the ducts cleaned, not wanting to re-circulate all the dust in the ducts. So, that got done last week. Turn the AC on, and it doesn't seem to be pumping much cold air. Scheduled a service call yesterday, and yup... she's frozen shut. The unit is original to the house (2004), so it's seen the end of it's life - it's also a model/type of AC that's been decommissioned since 2005, and completely out of manufacture since 2020. Buddy check on the furnace too while he's at it - yup, that fucker is also original to the house, and bound to crap out at any time (it's also one of the lower end brands, apparently).
So, tack on a few grand more to the renovation tab. :metal
That totally blows. Sounds like The Money Pit with Tom Hanks. When it rains it pours.
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Renovations are coming to an end. Our contractor is 98% done his shit - just a couple of small things to resolve, and mrs.jingle and I are working through a lot of other things to get the house back in working order (painting, some new barn doors; putting everything back where it belongs etc ...). We hadn't been running our AC until we got the ducts cleaned, not wanting to re-circulate all the dust in the ducts. So, that got done last week. Turn the AC on, and it doesn't seem to be pumping much cold air. Scheduled a service call yesterday, and yup... she's frozen shut. The unit is original to the house (2004), so it's seen the end of it's life - it's also a model/type of AC that's been decommissioned since 2005, and completely out of manufacture since 2020. Buddy check on the furnace too while he's at it - yup, that fucker is also original to the house, and bound to crap out at any time (it's also one of the lower end brands, apparently).
So, tack on a few grand more to the renovation tab. :metal
Ooof. Nothing like a good kick in the nuts on the way out the door.....
We are pretty much waiting our turn on replacing the AC/HVAC as well. We built in 2014....but there have been five neighbors (that we know of) who's systems have had to be replaced in the last few months. Turns out the builder of this subdivision was just an utter cheapskate and of course went with low end equipment. We've all learned a lot about him after the fact...but...it is what it is. So, we're just more or less waiting our turn...but we have a bit of heads up I suppose so have begun to budget/plan for it.
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As a person who unexpectedly dropped $15k on new furnace and AC earlier this year, I feel your pain.
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Price tag is just under $12k. The good news is they’re getting installed tomorrow.
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Chad.
https://youtu.be/8yFFyW4Ad8k
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I’ve got bills coming out the wazoo!
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^
Not a pretty sight in many regards…..
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Bill, 100% on. AAA plus has saved me many times.
Indeed. My mom made sure I had AAA when I started driving and I've had it ever since. Love it.
Revisiting this and I am now a AAA Plus member. Got a deal in the mail and signed my wife and I up.
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So I'm calmer now and this may be in the wrong thread...like maybe I'm just annoyed and no longer pissed but WTH.
2 days ago, our next door neighbors launched their fire pit. The fire pit is literally 10 feet in from our shared fence. And inside that part of the shared fence is about 20 feet from our bedroom. So I'm out watering the deck when I notice plumes of smoke billowing from their new fire pit. This was around 8 pm. I'm literally gagging on the smoke and coughing it is that bad. I grumble to myself but do not say anything. When it comes time to hit the bed, around midnight, I open the windows like always to let the fresh air in. Only now the fresh air feels like the 2nd hand smoke of about 300 packs of cigarettes. My neighbor and his wife are out there, sitting around the campfire. I close the window and turn on a box fan.
Fast forward to last night. I've left the windows open as the temps were not horrible and by the time I've noticed they've lit the pit again, the inside of my house smells like a campfire. What is worse, the neighbor's 18 year old daughter is having a party with about a half dozen girlfriends around the fire pit doing what teenage girls do. I close up the windows and try to ignore it until bedtime. They are still going strong at 11 pm. It is a Sunday night. I now have the beginnings of a migraine from the smoke.
They are loud but they could be louder. I'm biting my tongue. I don't want to be a Karen. It is summertime but fuck, I need to work today. I turn on the fans (plural) to high and hope to get to sleep. I finally drift off around 1 am when I am awakened by the girls whooping and hollering literally right outside my bedroom. I get up, I get dressed, I go out onto the deck and turn on the lights and say, "Hey neighbor! I appreciate you all are having fun but it is after 1 am and some of us have to work tomorrow. Could you move your party to a different spot so I can get some sleep?" Sure, they say. About a half hour later the fire pit is out and they are inside. I open my window and finally get a few hours of sleep.
I wake up this morning with a full blown migraine, a sore throat, and burning eyes. I call in sick because the medicine I need to take for my migraine is not going to work with driving.
I hate confrontation and like I said, I don't want to be a Karen. I checked our city noise ordinance law and it says quiet time is from 10 pm to 7 am. I walk over to the neighbor's house and speak to the young woman's mom. I'm mostly focused on the smoke. She seemed prepared to apologize more for the noise issue. I let her know that I thought all in all the girls did a pretty decent job keeping the noise down but that the noise combined with 48 hours worth of fire pit smoke is making me physically ill. We talked through it. They cannot move the fire pit location as they had some device sunk into the ground there and then put a slab of concrete on top where the pit sits. They even took out a tree last year to get ready for the pit (I knew about the tree but I didn't know of their plans for the pit). I let her know that I understood that they are entitled to enjoy their back yard but also let her know that the smoke is really affecting my health and our ability to open our windows in our bedroom. She said it would not be a nightly thing and TBH as fire danger season continues to ramp up, the fire pits will likely be banned soon anyway. She invited me to text her if things got bad.
I feel like we both did well talking and listening to each other, so I guess I can't ask for more than that. But damn you guys....with all that we know about the danger of inhalation of smoke and particulate matter I just cannot fathom subjecting my neighbors and my own children to that kind of smoke. I read online that 1 hour of burning in a campfire is equivalent to inhaling 30 cigarettes. :tdwn
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As someone who gets some burns in on the fire pit... I don't do it that late and my pit is dead center of the yard (it's nothing fancy, I can move it), but I have no doubt that the smoke has likely gone into other's homes nearby. No one has said anything. I think the key is to not be excessive with it and keep it during day and early evening hours.
Sounds like you handled it fine other than maybe waiting a bit too long and suffering because of it, but I get it, you don't want to be "that" person, but it sounds like you were well within your rights to say something without being Karen.
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Thanks cram. I was actually surprised at how hard it was for me to muster my courage to go over there and have the discussion. You never know these days how things are going to go down. I told her I didn't want to do anything to harm our neighborly good will and that seemed to help keep things going in a positive direction.
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Harmony, I am awful at confrontations, and I am using that term very loosely to describe any conversation with a stranger at could go sideways. I am glad it went reasonably well for you.
When I was the board president of our HOA I tried to meet every homeowner or renter, just to introduce myself and let them know I was available should they have any questions or concerns. Happily there were so few issues I only had one unpleasant conversation with a homeowner in the span of 3 years. But I always dreaded the possibility.
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That's actually pretty impressive how you handled that. I'm not sure I could have done that.
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That's actually pretty impressive how you handled that. I'm not sure I could have done that.
Would you say you would be 'TERRIFIED!'? :biggrin:
I'm very anti-social for reasons I can't really understand. I don't know any of my neighbors. I was sitting on my couch last night and saw this huge tower of flames out my sliding door. Neighbors behind me started up a fire pit and muct have soaked it in lighter fluid or something. I though they were going to set their tree on fire. The flames were past their second floor windows.
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Fucking pantry moths. Just when you think you've finally gotten rid of them. :censored
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On that theme, a fly getting in my truck today. You open every window and that little sucker won't leave.
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So..I'm on vacation and we went out for dinner the other night. When the waitress came, I asked for a beer list. She pointed to a card on the table and said if I scam the square code thingy, I could access the list.
I was like, well, I want to be able to see the whole list, and again, she says that I'll see the whole list if I scan the thing. So I finally say, you don't have an actual printed beer list that I can hold and look at??
She says sure, let me get that for you..
What in the fucking fuck? I don't fucking scan any codes on my phone. That's fucked! Why the hell can't I just hold the beer menu with my hands so I can see it all clearly. Why would I want to squint my eyes to view it on my phone, having to try and enlarge the smaller print, viewing only a couple of choices at a time on a beer menu that had easily over 50 choices?
Fuck you and your codes!
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*sigh*
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How to post "I'm old and crotchety as fuck" without saying "I'm old and crotchety as fuck". :lol
You might as well post "what's with key fobs to start your car!?!? I like to get my daily exercise by hand-cranking my engine".
"What's with tapping you're credit / debit card? Those hand crank sliders with three copies for the receipt make way more sense!"
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You might as well post "what's with key fobs to start your car!?!? I like to get my daily exercise by hand-cranking my engine".
That's funny. We've actually kind of talked about this, even on this trip. I drive a 2007 Kia Sedona with 310k miles on it. When we go on vacation, we are always in the new fangled cars that I have no clue WTF to do once I sit down.
I actually take issue with the big screens in newer cars. To change the channel, you have to find the spot on the screen to touch. How on earth is this a good idea. Back in my day lol I could reach down and feel the preset buttons without taking my eyes off the road.
Still, why would I have to squint my eyes onto a small screen when I can hold the list and take it all in at once?
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So..I'm on vacation and we went out for dinner the other night. When the waitress came, I asked for a beer list. She pointed to a card on the table and said if I scam the square code thingy, I could access the list.
I was like, well, I want to be able to see the whole list, and again, she says that I'll see the whole list if I scan the thing. So I finally say, you don't have an actual printed beer list that I can hold and look at??
She says sure, let me get that for you..
What in the fucking fuck? I don't fucking scan any codes on my phone. That's fucked! Why the hell can't I just hold the beer menu with my hands so I can see it all clearly. Why would I want to squint my eyes to view it on my phone, having to try and enlarge the smaller print, viewing only a couple of choices at a time on a beer menu that had easily over 50 choices?
Fuck you and your codes!
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On that theme, a fly getting in my truck today. You open every window and that little sucker won't leave.
And I will also add on: somehow there was a fly in my classroom on Friday. Teaching middle school kids math while a fly buzzes around is just wonderful and not at all distracting.
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No, I'm 30 and for once I agree with Tim. If I'm in a restaurant, give me a printed menu over a QR-code scan anytime. It's part of the experience for me. In fact I usually check the restaurant reviews before going and if they don't have a printed menu at all, I would choose another restaurant.
I also buy printed books instead of e-books so there's that.
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For sure. I just wanted to reply with that pic. I also would not want to have to scan to read a menu. I haven't eaten out in years but that just sounds like it defeats the purpose of eating out. I don't want to be on my phone while I am there.
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I gotta agree with TAC on the menu scanning bs.
Even more annoying is when they make you scan a code to see the regular menu and you place your order on your phone.
Even MORE annoying is when said restaurant has shit cell service and no public wifi, so the menu won’t even load.
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So..I'm on vacation and we went out for dinner the other night. When the waitress came, I asked for a beer list. She pointed to a card on the table and said if I scam the square code thingy, I could access the list.
I was like, well, I want to be able to see the whole list, and again, she says that I'll see the whole list if I scan the thing. So I finally say, you don't have an actual printed beer list that I can hold and look at??
She says sure, let me get that for you..
What in the fucking fuck? I don't fucking scan any codes on my phone. That's fucked! Why the hell can't I just hold the beer menu with my hands so I can see it all clearly. Why would I want to squint my eyes to view it on my phone, having to try and enlarge the smaller print, viewing only a couple of choices at a time on a beer menu that had easily over 50 choices?
Fuck you and your codes!
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I'm glad I keep reading after Tim's post because I was going literally post the same picture replay :lol
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I'm OK with a qr code for a beer list since those change frequently. I've been more annoyed by looking at the printed list and having the server tell me they're out of a few. QR code for the main menu is BS and should never happen.
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For my health, I basically stopped drinking cold turkey at the beginning of this year, with a few exceptions. I'm not an alcoholic, so I can have a beer and not worry. I'd earmarked this vacation to have a few, and even still, I'm about at 20% of what I'd usually drink on a trip like this. Part of the beer experience for me was looking at a big list, reading about them, and choosing one.
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So..I'm on vacation and we went out for dinner the other night. When the waitress came, I asked for a beer list. She pointed to a card on the table and said if I scam the square code thingy, I could access the list.
I was like, well, I want to be able to see the whole list, and again, she says that I'll see the whole list if I scan the thing. So I finally say, you don't have an actual printed beer list that I can hold and look at??
She says sure, let me get that for you..
What in the fucking fuck? I don't fucking scan any codes on my phone. That's fucked! Why the hell can't I just hold the beer menu with my hands so I can see it all clearly. Why would I want to squint my eyes to view it on my phone, having to try and enlarge the smaller print, viewing only a couple of choices at a time on a beer menu that had easily over 50 choices?
Fuck you and your codes!
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I second, Fuck you and your codes. Its just how they are trained these days, lazy. Put her in a Friendly's in 1985 and see how she survives.
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Im with Tim. I never use the QR code shit. All the time when I'm looking at something and then it goes, scan the code for more info, nah fuck that.
We live through our devices these days, I hate the way it's going.
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All the time when I'm looking at something and then it goes, scan the code for more info, nah fuck that.
So much this!
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All the time when I'm looking at something and then it goes, scan the code for more info, nah fuck that.
So much this!
I just don't get it. If it's a flyer or a handout or whatever, why can't the info be on that flyer instead of a fucking square that I have to get my phone out and dick around trying to scan it for a pop up?! Just tell me on the fucking flyer!!!!
It's kinda good because this sort of dumb shit makes me realise that what I'm looking at or whatever, when it says scan the code and I say, 'nope, too much effort, fuck that,' I wasn't all that interested or could give a fuck anyway. Happy to move on.
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Unfortunately, some restaurants no longer have menu's to hand out. Many did this during covid and decided to stay with it.
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Unfortunately, some restaurants no longer have menu's to hand out. Many did this during covid and decided to stay with it.
Fuck them then.
They have them but you have to ask.
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Unfortunately, some restaurants no longer have menu's to hand out. Many did this during covid and decided to stay with it.
If I wasn't scanning the QR code when COVID was rampant to check in at every fucking place I went, restaurants have no fucking hope me scanning their fucking menu. I'll go somewhere where we can walk up, look and the menu and decide if it's the type of food we want to eat. Not sitting down, having to scan a code then go, 'this food is fucked, I don't want any of this.'
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There are only a few places I like that do it. The food snd beer are too good not to go there.
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At HNL a few weeks back was my first experience with doing all the restaurant ordering via the web, and I gotta say... I didn't hate it. I am not a fan of the 'Scan the code for the menu' nonsense, but being able to order everything on my phone was a pleasant experience. Anything that minimizes how much I have to interact with other humans is something I am usually in favor of.
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What's HNL, and I would never order my meal on my phone.
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What's HNL, and I would never order my meal on my phone.
Why? What's so wrong about it?
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Because to me, it deletes the whole purpose of going out to eat. I want to sit down and be waited on.
If it's a walk up thing, I want to place my order to a human. I don't want to take my tiny phone screen and do that shit.
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I get that. But, there is maybe 5% that does this. It isn't an epidemic.
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I get that. But, there is maybe 5% that does this. It isn't an epidemic.
Well, I've not really come across it, but if I did, I wouldn't do it.
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I appreciate the phone option because sometimes the lighting in places is so dark I can't even read the menu.
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Then I'd use the flashlight app on my phone. ;D
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Then I'd use the flashlight app on my phone. ;D
You old bastard.
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I get that. But, there is maybe 5% that does this. It isn't an epidemic.
Fair but seems over time we will see more and more of this type of thing.
I just don't like if they have to take details and shit. I mean, if I order, the staff don't need to know a thing about me. I pay and it's like I was never there, especially when I pay with cash. Doing apps and scanning just traps you a bit I feel and then they have more or potentially more info than they need to. Maybe it's not like that, I dunno.
It's a me thing.
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Because to me, it deletes the whole purpose of going out to eat. I want to sit down and be waited on.
HNL is Honolulu airport.
Being waited on is the least important aspect of going out to eat for me, so ordering via cell phone does not impact the enjoyment of the experience in any noticeable way for me.
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Because to me, it deletes the whole purpose of going out to eat. I want to sit down and be waited on.
HNL is Honolulu airport.
Being waited on is the least important aspect of going out to eat for me, so ordering via cell phone does not impact the enjoyment of the experience in any noticeable way for me.
I can understand that but what if the meal is fucked and needs to go back? Do you just carry it up to the counter instead of hailing a waiter?
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There are still waitresses. You just get the menu on your phone and you still place your order with the waitress.
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Huh.......I still don't really get the point but....meh.
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Main benefits I see are akin to less waste. The restaurant no longer needs to print a new menu or maintain a stack of them. The staff no longer has to clean them after every use. There is less contact. I think the rise in this method was due to Covid in the beginning.
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Main benefits I see are akin to less waste. The restaurant no longer needs to print a new menu or maintain a stack of them. The staff no longer has to clean them after every use. There is less contact. I think the rise in this method was due to Covid in the beginning.
Of course.
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Then I'd use the flashlight app on my phone. ;D
Gotta ask Mrs. Tac for the readers first...
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I'm with TAC 1000% on this. I do not like the scanning for the menu, and I do not like the ordering by my phone. it was bad enough when Friendly's put those whatever you call them's on the table that you could order from and pay through.
It's not about technology; it's about the experience of dining out. I LIKE talking to the servers, I LIKE looking at the menu, I LIKE the ordering... what's the point otherwise? I might as well stay home and order through DoorDash or whatever.
And don't get me started on the tipping! I'm not tipping 20% for the pleasure of having my family spend even MORE time with their faces buried in their phones...
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I"m also not a fan of the QR codes. I like a physical menu when I eat out. I understand why they became a thing, but most places have gone back to real menus. The ones that haven't actually do piss me off a bit.
I think the waiter service itself is more important or not depending on where you are eating out. Applebees? I've got no issue ordering on my phone or the kiosk thing they may have at the table. Going to a nice restuarant with my gf, I would like nice service as it's part of the experience of dining out.
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Because to me, it deletes the whole purpose of going out to eat. I want to sit down and be waited on.
If it's a walk up thing, I want to place my order to a human. I don't want to take my tiny phone screen and do that shit.
THIS! And tipping has become ridiculous and they do less and are not very friendly. A lot of waiters and waitresses look absolutely miserable, almost annoyed you're there. Sad man.
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I agree about waiters and waitresses being there to serve you and answer any questions you might have. But those haven't disappeared from any restaurant I've been to.
I see no real difference between reading a printed menu and reading an electronic menu. It's just absorbing data written on a surface through my eyes. I absolutely see how it's more cost effective and efficient for the restaurant to use the electronic menu.
I haven't been to any restaurants that have done away completely with the printed menus, but I've certainly been to some that only bring them out if requested.
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Same for me, Hef. They still have waiters to take your order, bring your food.
The only issue I have is the Queen can't seem to bring them up on her phone. I told her she's just cursed with technology. Lol
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Maybe it's me, but I like to have that 60 minutes without phones. Without tech. With some normal interaction, where the waiter gives the specials or whatever, I can point to the menu and say "can I get that with onions instead of mushrooms", or whatever. I don't know; I don't need MORE chances to absorb blue light, I need LESS.
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I don't like the menu-less QR code scan things at restaurants either. That said, menus are often filthy/germ ridden pieces of plastic. I wonder if that is a consideration since Covid made all of us a bit more aware of how people contract viruses and other illnesses? Not many people order, then get up and go wash their hands before the meal arrives.
https://www.mashed.com/209890/heres-how-dirty-restaurant-menus-really-are/
That link also brings up one of my huge pet peeves at restaurants and that is silverware placed directly on the table. Ick
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No doubt the menus are filthy, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to stop using them Next we don't touch doors? Understandable during covid, but I think it's fairly safe so it really shouldn't be because of germs. Our phones are also filthy.
Maybe it's me, but I like to have that 60 minutes without phones. Without tech. With some normal interaction, where the waiter gives the specials or whatever, I can point to the menu and say "can I get that with onions instead of mushrooms", or whatever. I don't know; I don't need MORE chances to absorb blue light, I need LESS.
While I don't necessarily enjoy 60 minutes without my phone (I admit, I'm on mine a lot) I totally get what you are saying and agree. If you are out with people, forcing everyone to use their phone is not very social and that's a big part of eating out. Also, I enjoy hearing the specials too.
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I'll still ask for a proper menu, and most of the times they'll give me one. They might say "anything involving X is off the menu right now," but they've usually still got the old ones. The problem is that, like all sensible people, I want to be able to compare items. Twenty items on a page makes that easy to do. Scrolling by 4 items at a time doesn't work.
I've only been to one place that expected you to order by phone, and that was in Chicago. When I refused the chap said "that's OK, I'll take care of it for you."
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No doubt the menus are filthy, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to stop using them Next we don't touch doors? Understandable during covid, but I think it's fairly safe so it really shouldn't be because of germs. Our phones are also filthy.
Some more than others, I'd say. And not to belabor the point, I'd be fine with handling my own germs rather than the germs of 200 previous patrons' hands. Maybe that's just me. ;)
I worked for Red Robin in the late 80s and as part of our server duties we had to deep clean things like doorknobs and menus. Let's just say, not every employee put their all into these procedures. :-X
I honestly can't recall if QR codes were being used a ton before the pandemic. In my mind, it was something that flourished during Covid like Zoom meetings from home and plastic partitions everywhere and may just have been kept around because people who aren't old like us (present company excluded) kind of preferred them.
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For a long time now, restaurants have put their menu online including their bar menu so if we are interested in a particular venue then we can look it up ahead of time. I like that option but I also travel with a laptop everywhere when I/we travel.
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Just tested positive for Covid. I barely leave the house and went to see The Warning on Saturday. Started feeling crappy yesterday and had trouble sleeping last night and feel even worse today. Wife sort of jokingly says 'maybe you have covid'.
I feel like crap. I had a busy week coming up too.
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Just tested positive for Covid. I barely leave the house and went to see The Warning on Saturday. Started feeling crappy yesterday and had trouble sleeping last night and feel even worse today. Wife sort of jokingly says 'maybe you have covid'.
I feel like crap. I had a busy week coming up too.
So sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.
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Just tested positive for Covid. I barely leave the house and went to see The Warning on Saturday. Started feeling crappy yesterday and had trouble sleeping last night and feel even worse today. Wife sort of jokingly says 'maybe you have covid'.
I feel like crap. I had a busy week coming up too.
So sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.
Thanks, Man. I had no symptoms the first time. This time I feel like a train rolled over me. The rapid test was undeniable. Solid, very full line on the positive. Trying to work but it's not going well. My boss already told me to take it easy and not work, but I have a big go-live this week. Can't let it go.
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Just tested positive for Covid. I barely leave the house and went to see The Warning on Saturday. Started feeling crappy yesterday and had trouble sleeping last night and feel even worse today. Wife sort of jokingly says 'maybe you have covid'.
I feel like crap. I had a busy week coming up too.
So sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.
Indeed.
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Just tested positive for Covid. I barely leave the house and went to see The Warning on Saturday. Started feeling crappy yesterday and had trouble sleeping last night and feel even worse today. Wife sort of jokingly says 'maybe you have covid'.
I feel like crap. I had a busy week coming up too.
So sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.
Thanks, Man. I had no symptoms the first time. This time I feel like a train rolled over me. The rapid test was undeniable. Solid, very full line on the positive. Trying to work but it's not going well. My boss already told me to take it easy and not work, but I have a big go-live this week. Can't let it go.
That sucks about the timing, but what can you do? It's work, don't kill yourself. Hope you get well soon.
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Idiot coworker gave me a cold last week. Didn't effect Friday night, but I felt kind of crappy for Sunday's gig. Been toughing it out at work (boss also caught it, and fuck the guy that started the whole thing), but last night I smashed one of my piggies. Broken toes are no joke, man. I can hobble around alight if I'm not wearing a shoe. If I am it's pretty much dead weight. Can't use that foot at all. I've never been able to read an xray before, but it's pretty easy to recognize a bone that's in the wrong place. So basically at home miserable from stem to stern.
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That sounds really painful
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So..
Prof has Covid and Bart has....Toevid.
I'm so sorry. Leaving now..
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I don't envy you at all El Barto. Broken toes, are excruciating.
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Idiot coworker gave me a cold last week. Didn't effect Friday night, but I felt kind of crappy for Sunday's gig. Been toughing it out at work (boss also caught it, and fuck the guy that started the whole thing), but last night I smashed one of my piggies. Broken toes are no joke, man. I can hobble around alight if I'm not wearing a shoe. If I am it's pretty much dead weight. Can't use that foot at all. I've never been able to read an xray before, but it's pretty easy to recognize a bone that's in the wrong place. So basically at home miserable from stem to stern.
When I smashed my big toe years ago in the gym, it was one of the worst things I've gone through. Seriously don't realise how important your toes are to just walking.
Has the doc looked at the X-Ray? If it's fucked up enough that bones are in the wrong place, and if it heals without needing possible correction, it will heal all wonky and could affect you the rest of your life. I had to have pins in mine for over six weeks as the bones were smashed. Doctors were not letting me not get surgery.
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Idiot coworker gave me a cold last week. Didn't effect Friday night, but I felt kind of crappy for Sunday's gig. Been toughing it out at work (boss also caught it, and fuck the guy that started the whole thing), but last night I smashed one of my piggies. Broken toes are no joke, man. I can hobble around alight if I'm not wearing a shoe. If I am it's pretty much dead weight. Can't use that foot at all. I've never been able to read an xray before, but it's pretty easy to recognize a bone that's in the wrong place. So basically at home miserable from stem to stern.
When I smashed my big toe years ago in the gym, it was one of the worst things I've gone through. Seriously don't realise how important your toes are to just walking.
Has the doc looked at the X-Ray? If it's fucked up enough that bones are in the wrong place, and if it heals without needing possible correction, it will heal all wonky and could affect you the rest of your life. I had to have pins in mine for over six weeks as the bones were smashed. Doctors were not letting me not get surgery.
Yeah, you notice it no matter how you step. Even just the shock of your foot coming down on the heal jars it a bit, so there's no good way around it. Earlier in the year I had some soft tissue damage to my thumb, and that's the same way. Even if you don't use that thumb to grasp anything simply touching something with that hand will set it off.
Yeah, I'm already established with a podiatrist. I was thinking it was just a deep bruise, but his minion suggested coming in anyway, and he was right. It doesn't need surgery, it's not that far out of alignment, but had I not had it stabilized it probably would have gotten to that point. Funny thing is that when I first smashed it it wasn't that terrible. It hurt like fuck, but it wasn't that blinding pain that incaps you for a spell. It was in the middle of the night when rolling over that it got caught in the sheets that really made a mess of it. I think that's when it got shifted over a tad.
The only thing I know for sure is that between the cold and the toe there's a fair amount of whisky in my future.
Doctors were not letting me not get surgery.
Bleedin' Aussie. Up here it's "if you don't get surgery it'll screw you up for the rest of your life, but I understand that you might not be able to afford it. Take some time to think about what you want to do about it."
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ProfessorPeart - hope you feel better soon. Covid is definitely rearing up again. I know many people who have recently contracted it.
EB - broken toes are the worst! I was on vacation with the family a few years back and got up in the middle of the night in the hotel to use the WC and the tile in the bathroom was black. So of course I miss judged the layout of the bathroom and wound up walking full force into a half wall (didn't turn on the light for fear of waking others). Excruciating pain and it totally fucked up the rest of our vacation which had been set around hiking and sight seeing.
Man the colors my foot turned were incredible.
Got home and after a week or so was gingerly stepping into the shower and wound up sliding my broken toe along the bath mat. This wound up essentially reducing my fracture back into proper alignment and the pain was about 75% better (after the initial shock of pain and subsequent desire to barf when it occurred).
Hope you feel better soon and a piece of unasked for advice? Be sure to move your foot/calf/leg by doing some range of motion regularly. Last thing you need is a DVT. And that shit can happen.
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Idiot coworker gave me a cold last week. Didn't effect Friday night, but I felt kind of crappy for Sunday's gig. Been toughing it out at work (boss also caught it, and fuck the guy that started the whole thing), but last night I smashed one of my piggies. Broken toes are no joke, man. I can hobble around alight if I'm not wearing a shoe. If I am it's pretty much dead weight. Can't use that foot at all. I've never been able to read an xray before, but it's pretty easy to recognize a bone that's in the wrong place. So basically at home miserable from stem to stern.
When I smashed my big toe years ago in the gym, it was one of the worst things I've gone through. Seriously don't realise how important your toes are to just walking.
Has the doc looked at the X-Ray? If it's fucked up enough that bones are in the wrong place, and if it heals without needing possible correction, it will heal all wonky and could affect you the rest of your life. I had to have pins in mine for over six weeks as the bones were smashed. Doctors were not letting me not get surgery.
Yeah, you notice it no matter how you step. Even just the shock of your foot coming down on the heal jars it a bit, so there's no good way around it. Earlier in the year I had some soft tissue damage to my thumb, and that's the same way. Even if you don't use that thumb to grasp anything simply touching something with that hand will set it off.
Yeah, I'm already established with a podiatrist. I was thinking it was just a deep bruise, but his minion suggested coming in anyway, and he was right. It doesn't need surgery, it's not that far out of alignment, but had I not had it stabilized it probably would have gotten to that point. Funny thing is that when I first smashed it it wasn't that terrible. It hurt like fuck, but it wasn't that blinding pain that incaps you for a spell. It was in the middle of the night when rolling over that it got caught in the sheets that really made a mess of it. I think that's when it got shifted over a tad.
The only thing I know for sure is that between the cold and the toe there's a fair amount of whisky in my future.
Doctors were not letting me not get surgery.
Bleedin' Aussie. Up here it's "if you don't get surgery it'll screw you up for the rest of your life, but I understand that you might not be able to afford it. Take some time to think about what you want to do about it."
Yeah, sounds like my story. I didn't go to hospital until the next day. The bones of the big toe were shattered in about a dozen pieces. Yeah our health system is so good over here compared to you guys.
That's damn good news you don't need surgery though mate. All the best.
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My right eye has been irritated since vacation. It's all red on the right side. I tried flushing it out many times. Ice and heat. I don't even know how I did it. It's a pain in the ass. I guess I should set up a doctor's appointment today.
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My right eye has been irritated since vacation. It's all red on the right side. I tried flushing it out many times. Ice and heat. I don't even know how I did it. It's a pain in the ass. I guess I should set up a doctor's appointment today.
I don't know when your vacation was, but the eye heals incredibly fast. If you are having continued irritation for more than a few days, you should see a doctor/optometrist ASAP!
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Set up an appointment for 440pm today.
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I'm not sure if I'm pissed or not. I think I'm pissed.
I'll try to keep this short and high level so it's easy to follow.
For my entire life, I've had an incredibly small family. I have 4 cousins, 3 of which are blood related.
My dad is one of 4 children.
- Barbara (My grandma) and John (my grandpa)
--- Joe (my dad)
--- Jack
--- James
---- Marcia
Marcia, my dad's sister, went to the hospital last October with a really bad UTI. She was admitted to the ER where she choked on her dinner. She had a heart attack, was put in a coma and died. She had a known genetic disease that would have eventually done her in had that not happened.
James, my dad's kid brother, died unexpectedly a few months ago.
Last weekend, my dad went to a celebration of life party for a cousin of his that recently passed away. While there, he was informed by another cousin that a woman reached out to him several months ago. This woman was apparently Marcia's daughter, and she was put up for adoption as soon as my aunt had her. She has the same disease my aunt had, and she found genetic matches through testing. She reached out to my dad's cousin in an attempt to find out how the disease has impacted anyone in our family. Nobody in the family had a clue Marcia ever had a kid. The cousin my dad met suspected my grandfather knew, but he died of a heart attack while Marcia was pregnant and literally took the secret to his grave. The cousin also said he put her in touch with James who she 100% had conversations with, but he too took the secret to his grave.
So now I'm sitting on this info that I have another first cousin who's just 4 years older than me. I've got her name and she lives about 20 minutes from me. Nobody else in my family seems at all phased by this revelation. My dad gave his cousin his number in case she ever wanted to contact him for anything. Meanwhile, I want to reach out and introduce myself. I don't expect her to want to talk back, but I'd like to open that door if she wanted. Even if it was just to see pictures of her grandma and grandpa or something. My immediate family is entirely against this, with my dad going so far as requesting that I don't make any attempt to make contact with this person. It kind of irks me. It's not like she's 11 and I could be unloading something on her that she's not yet mentally ready to handle. She's 39. I'm sure she'd be fine.
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Ah the joys of ancestry testing. I know it well. My half sister found out she had another half sister before she died. My mom found out she had a half sister before she died too. In both of those cases, these previously unknown relatives lived across the country and thus contact was limited to some cordial emails and phone calls.
But I have heard of other reunions with long lost relatives that did not go well. Could be that is why your dad is against this? There could also be him feeling protective of his deceased sister and not wanting family dirty laundry aired.
That said, I think this cousin wanting information on a potentially lethal genetic disease is completely valid. It could be she is really only looking for this and has no desire to upset the apple cart of your family in any way. I guess if I were in your shoes I'd try to pin down exactly what your dad's fears are about. And if it seems to you that it is because of pride or loyalty or shame then it is up to you to decide how you want to move forward.
He doesn't need to know if you do decide to reach out to her. And you can explain to her that it is a tricky situation with him and the rest of the family. But do proceed cautiously. You don't know her situation. If she's the type of person looking for money, or is struggling with addiction, you could be opening yourself up to a huge on-going headache.
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I'd say, sorry Dad. I'm going to do the right thing.
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Given the health situation, it seems like the right thing to do to give her the information she needs. Anything more I'd say is up to how comfortable you are with potentially going behind your dad's back. Seems like she's an adult and I can't imagine she could legally come after you or your father for money. Since you mentioned she is local, I'd imagine it might be nice to meet up since you have such a small family, but rocking the boat within the family seems like a legit concern. Sticky situation, but providing that medical information should IMO not be something your family should be upset about. To me, that's human decency. But I have no experience with this to share so these are just my thoughts.
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I should have maybe been a bit more clear in my OP - She's already gotten the information about the disease and who it impacted in the family. My dad isn't taking that position from a "don't help her" angle. He'd never do something like that.
That said, I think this cousin wanting information on a potentially lethal genetic disease is completely valid. It could be she is really only looking for this and has no desire to upset the apple cart of your family in any way. I guess if I were in your shoes I'd try to pin down exactly what your dad's fears are about. And if it seems to you that it is because of pride or loyalty or shame then it is up to you to decide how you want to move forward.
That could be it. My dad clarified a bit when I pressed him on it after posting this thread. So apparently, it wasn't my unknown cousin that reached out to my dad's brother James. Apparently it was the girl's daughter (she's got two) calling on her behalf. I quote "I know when her daughter contacted James, she said she was iffy about talking to anyone and didn't want a bunch of people suddenly feeling obligated to reach out to her. She was looking for info about the muscular disease".
That could change things I guess. On one hand that could be interpreted as her not wanting any contact. On the other hand, I could read that as her not wanting to suddenly inject herself as a burden to a family that just found out she existed.
It's zero burden on me. I was filled with excitement when I heard the news and half-jokingly suggested to V that we invite her and her husband to the wedding.
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These are delicate situations that have no clear answer.
My best friend (little league, law school, roommates for a while) and who, back in the day, I helped find his "biological" dad learned through Ancestry that he had a sister... his "biological" dad was not, and in fact his mom had a one-night stand with their local bartender and that's my friend's actual father. He has reached out to his sister, met his dad, and it's made things... better for him, but of course, his mom is now faced with the reality that everyone knows of her transgression.
For me, if it was me, I would ultimately honor what my dad said, only because in my family, my dad was far more plugged into the familial ins and outs than I was, and I would trust that he knew something I didn't. Having said that, I wouldn't have taken "let it go" as an answer, but again, that depends on your relationship with your dad.
Ultimately, if you find yourself in disagreement with Dad, and opt to reach out, you can certainly do so with decorum and respect. Perhaps contact the daughter who reached out and express your desire there? You already know she's willing to reach out and maybe she can act as a sort middle man; you might find out what concerns there are as well and you can then decide if you want to mitigate them or just walk away.
I do know this much: my mom and dad passed last year, and they were my main connection to my family, and on top of the grief is this profound sense of losing connection. I have no regrets, per se, but I DO wish I pushed my dad harder than I did about writing all this ancestry shit down. As people die, information dies, and if you CAN seek that connection I think in the long run it's probably the best move.
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Just tested positive for Covid. I barely leave the house and went to see The Warning on Saturday. Started feeling crappy yesterday and had trouble sleeping last night and feel even worse today. Wife sort of jokingly says 'maybe you have covid'.
I feel like crap. I had a busy week coming up too.
So sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.
Thanks, Man. I had no symptoms the first time. This time I feel like a train rolled over me. The rapid test was undeniable. Solid, very full line on the positive. Trying to work but it's not going well. My boss already told me to take it easy and not work, but I have a big go-live this week. Can't let it go.
That sucks about the timing, but what can you do? It's work, don't kill yourself. Hope you get well soon.
Covid made the decision for me. I barely slept last night and my head feels like it is caught in a car crusher. The pain is otherworldly and I have a high pain tolerance. This is just super brutal. Work told me to not worry about it and got 2 others to cover for me tomorrow. I'm not in any frame of mind to man a deployment in my condition.
This variant is no joke. Sounds like I might have this Eris one. The shots are worthless against it and I can attest to that.
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Well that stinks, but at least you don't have to worry about work and just yourself. Take care.
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Had my yearly physical. I weigh 280.
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Just realized I have no sense of taste and smell now. Makes eating very unfullfilling. Didn't happen my first time with Covid but happened to both my kids. This really sucks.
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Ugh.
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Just realized I have no sense of taste and smell now. Makes eating very unfullfilling. Didn't happen my first time with Covid but happened to both my kids. This really sucks.
That sucks man. Hopefully it makes way for you soon.
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Just realized I have no sense of taste and smell now. Makes eating very unfullfilling. Didn't happen my first time with Covid but happened to both my kids. This really sucks.
I know it sucks, but I made it into a game. I would try everything I had to see what I could and couldn't taste. Like spicy food, sour candy, sweet treats... it was interesting what I could and could not taste.
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Last year I lost my sense of taste for a 36 hour period. Disappeared and returned out of the blue. Weird as hell.
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Last year I lost my sense of taste for a 36 hour period. Disappeared and returned out of the blue. Weird as hell.
Your dislike of Winger and Power Windows suggests you've lost your sense of taste a lot longer than a 36 hour period. ;D
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Last year I lost my sense of taste for a 36 hour period. Disappeared and returned out of the blue. Weird as hell.
Your dislike of Winger and Power Windows suggests you've lost your sense of taste a lot longer than a 36 hour period. ;D
(https://media.tenor.com/SpPUh3E58AoAAAAM/guilty.gif)
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:lol :metal
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I needed a good laugh. Can always count on TAC and wolf to come through. That genuinely got a good chuckle out of me.
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I needed a good laugh. Can always count on TAC and wolf to come through. That genuinely got a good chuckle out of me.
We're here all week! ;D
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I needed a good laugh. Can always count on TAC and wolf to come through. That genuinely got a good chuckle out of me.
We're here all week! ;D
:metal
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Last year I lost my sense of taste for a 36 hour period. Disappeared and returned out of the blue. Weird as hell.
Your dislike of Winger and Power Windows suggests you've lost your sense of taste a lot longer than a 36 hour period. ;D
:lol that's a good one!
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So...air travel..
I don't know how you people that travel for work do it. I get on a plane once, maybe twice every twelve months, and we've had pretty decent experiences. The last two years, we've experienced 4 hour delays on each of hour tips home, with last year being stuck on the plane for 3 hours.
So we had a 7:00am flight on Jetblue out of Boston last Wednesday to Orlando. Went to bed at 10pm the night before. We took an express shuttle to the airport, and as we're about to get off the bus, I open my email on my phone to get the flight info. Apparently at 10:40pm, we got an email saying our flight was...cancelled! An hour later we got our reroute. 8AM to DC and then a layover and then at 8 fucking PM to Orlando to land at 10:30 PM. WUT?? A 10+ hour layover in DC.
I purposely never buy connecting flights. I only want to go up and down once.
We go to the counter to see WTF we can do. We look at all other flights to Florida. There's another one to Orlando but it's much later in the day and it's full. OK, how about Jacksonville? Nope, only three seats left, and there's four of us.
OK, there's a flight to Ft Myers. 4 seats left. Bingo, we'll take it. So she reserves the seats, but before she can check us in, she has to call some central location to back us out of the other two flights they put us on. Well, the first person she spoke with fucked it up, but after 45 minutes at her counter (after 45 minutes in line), she resolved it and we were clear. That flight left at 7:55 and we still barely made it.
I called Hertz and said we'd get the rental at FT. Myers instead of Orlando, and while it costs a couple extra hundred dollars, whatever. So we had to make the 2.5-3 hour drive to Orlando. Got there at 3:00, which was still better than having 5 hours left to wait in DC.
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So...air travel..
I don't know how you people that travel for work do it. I get on a plane once, maybe twice every twelve months, and we've had pretty decent experiences. The last two years, we've experienced 4 hour delays on each of hour tips home, with last year being stuck on the plane for 3 hours.
So we had a 7:00am flight on Jetblue out of Boston last Wednesday to Orlando. Went to bed at 10pm the night before. We took an express shuttle to the airport, and as we're about to get off the bus, I open my email on my phone to get the flight info. Apparently at 10:40pm, we got an email saying our flight was...cancelled! An hour later we got our reroute. 8AM to DC and then a layover and then at 8 fucking PM to Orlando to land at 10:30 PM. WUT?? A 10+ hour layover in DC.
I purposely never buy connecting flights. I only want to go up and down once.
We go to the counter to see WTF we can do. We look at all other flights to Florida. There's another one to Orlando but it's much later in the day and it's full. OK, how about Jacksonville? Nope, only three seats left, and there's four of us.
OK, there's a flight to Ft Myers. 4 seats left. Bingo, we'll take it. So she reserves the seats, but before she can check us in, she has to call some central location to back us out of the other two flights they put us on. Well, the first person she spoke with fucked it up, but after 45 minutes at her counter (after 45 minutes in line), she resolved it and we were clear. That flight left at 7:55 and we still barely made it.
I called Hertz and said we'd get the rental at FT. Myers instead of Orlando, and while it costs a couple extra hundred dollars, whatever. So we had to make the 2.5-3 hour drive to Orlando. Got there at 3:00, which was still better than having 5 hours left to wait in DC.
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Just realized I have no sense of taste and smell now. Makes eating very unfullfilling. Didn't happen my first time with Covid but happened to both my kids. This really sucks.
For what it's worth, mine came back after a night's sleep. I couldn't smell my jar of coffee or 93% Iso before I crashed. Scared the hell out of me. When I woke up I was able to thoroughly enjoy my morning coffee.
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Just realized I have no sense of taste and smell now. Makes eating very unfullfilling. Didn't happen my first time with Covid but happened to both my kids. This really sucks.
For what it's worth, mine came back after a night's sleep. I couldn't smell my jar of coffee or 93% Iso before I crashed. Scared the hell out of me. When I woke up I was able to thoroughly enjoy my morning coffee.
Still nothing so far today. Was just over at the forum on The Warning's Patreon and there is a thread about a mass breakout of Covid from the Chicago show. Yeah, no kidding. Sounds like everyone who did the meet and greet got it. I wanted to do it, but tickets sold out too quick. Just like me, everyone started getting sick on Monday. I feel mostly fine now, just tired still. Nose is still an issue and a small lingering headache. The taste/smell thing has me really pissed.
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So...air travel..
I don't know how you people that travel for work do it. I get on a plane once, maybe twice every twelve months, and we've had pretty decent experiences. The last two years, we've experienced 4 hour delays on each of hour tips home, with last year being stuck on the plane for 3 hours.
So we had a 7:00am flight on Jetblue out of Boston last Wednesday to Orlando. Went to bed at 10pm the night before. We took an express shuttle to the airport, and as we're about to get off the bus, I open my email on my phone to get the flight info. Apparently at 10:40pm, we got an email saying our flight was...cancelled! An hour later we got our reroute. 8AM to DC and then a layover and then at 8 fucking PM to Orlando to land at 10:30 PM. WUT?? A 10+ hour layover in DC.
I purposely never buy connecting flights. I only want to go up and down once.
We go to the counter to see WTF we can do. We look at all other flights to Florida. There's another one to Orlando but it's much later in the day and it's full. OK, how about Jacksonville? Nope, only three seats left, and there's four of us.
OK, there's a flight to Ft Myers. 4 seats left. Bingo, we'll take it. So she reserves the seats, but before she can check us in, she has to call some central location to back us out of the other two flights they put us on. Well, the first person she spoke with fucked it up, but after 45 minutes at her counter (after 45 minutes in line), she resolved it and we were clear. That flight left at 7:55 and we still barely made it.
I called Hertz and said we'd get the rental at FT. Myers instead of Orlando, and while it costs a couple extra hundred dollars, whatever. So we had to make the 2.5-3 hour drive to Orlando. Got there at 3:00, which was still better than having 5 hours left to wait in DC.
Yeah, didn't have to get beyond Jetblue to understand your problem. They're in the bottom three US airlines for good reason.
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Just realized I have no sense of taste and smell now. Makes eating very unfullfilling. Didn't happen my first time with Covid but happened to both my kids. This really sucks.
For what it's worth, mine came back after a night's sleep. I couldn't smell my jar of coffee or 93% Iso before I crashed. Scared the hell out of me. When I woke up I was able to thoroughly enjoy my morning coffee.
Still nothing so far today. Was just over at the forum on The Warning's Patreon and there is a thread about a mass breakout of Covid from the Chicago show. Yeah, no kidding. Sounds like everyone who did the meet and greet got it. I wanted to do it, but tickets sold out too quick. Just like me, everyone started getting sick on Monday. I feel mostly fine now, just tired still. Nose is still an issue and a small lingering headache. The taste/smell thing has me really pissed.
That sucks. The smell/taste thing is what scares me the most. Good luck with that.
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Yeah, didn't have to get beyond Jetblue to understand your problem. They're in the bottom three US airlines for good reason.
Yeah, as you know, I'm not a huge fan of flying, though I am much better. We had used Jetblue and we were quite happy with them honestly. Since it worked, I was hesitant to switch.
We had a delay coming home on the last two trips which definitely sucked.
I have no clue why our flight was cancelled. It's just I'm literally stepping in a plane once in 2023 and the one flight out of the millions others is cancelled.
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Yeah, didn't have to get beyond Jetblue to understand your problem. They're in the bottom three US airlines for good reason.
Yeah, as you know, I'm not a huge fan of flying, though I am much better. We had used Jetblue and we were quite happy with them honestly. Since it worked, I was hesitant to switch.
We had a delay coming home on the last two trips which definitely sucked.
I have no clue why our flight was cancelled. It's just I'm literally stepping in a plane once in 2023 and the one flight out of the millions others is cancelled.
The list of reasons why flights get cancelled is a mile long. Maybe the pilot of a flight out of Nebraska had a flare up of syphilis the night before, causing a plane heading out of California to be delayed, which made the standby pilot at your airport unable to cover for your scheduled pilot when he went past his flight hours. Or, maybe they just didn't sell enough seats. There are a gazillion possible explanations, many of them quite valid. One of the good things about flying the big boys is that they can absorb disruption far better than the little guys, and because so many of their pax are business travelers it's in their best interest to do so. American and Delta can have a new crew or a new plane pretty much anywhere in a couple of hours, and at a major airports they're probably already on hand.
As for flight delays, they happen. You just hope they're short and you haven't already boarded. I find airports interesting, so I'm usually alright with just exploring for a while. I suspect that is another area where bigger carriers do better than smaller ones, though. Because AA hubs out of DFW I fly them almost exclusively, and the disruptions are usually pretty reasonable. My plane might be an hour late arriving, but these things happen.
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The list of reasons why flights get cancelled is a mile long. Maybe the pilot of a flight out of Nebraska had a flare up of syphilis the night before, causing a plane heading out of California to be delayed, which made the standby pilot at your airport unable to cover for your scheduled pilot when he went past his flight hours. Or, maybe they just didn't sell enough seats. There are a gazillion possible explanations, many of them quite valid.
Oh yeah, I get it.
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Nothing worse than huge flight delays. I've only had a cancellation once, it was pretty nightmarish but at least it was at my home airport on a business trip so I effectively got paid like 10 hours for doing nothing and I got to go back home and sleep in my bed before flying out the next day. One good thing about work travel is we use a travel agency so if there's any issues, I call them and they do all the work. I don't have to wait at the counter. And since I travel so much, I currently have United 1k status (their highest, and Im not projected to keep it this year at this point which makes me sad), if I did have to go to the counter, I'd likely get special service.
My flight home from Singapore earlier this year year was a nightmare, like a 6 hour delay in my layover in San Fran but what made it so bad was I had just done the long haul flight from Singapore to SF and when I got off that plane my head was pure mush from the jet lag. They even let us board the plane after a few hours and I was able to get into my seat and I fell asleep for about 15 minutes before they made us unboard. At that point, I thought death was the better way out.
If I'm being honest though, I think major flight disruptions are around 10% of the flights I take. Some disruption at 50% and maybe 50% are perfectly fine flights. There's just so many variables. One thing for me, I like to book the early morning flights if possible. I feel those are less likely to have issues.
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My wife just tested positive for covid now. This is not good. She already has bad lungs due to COPD and she's never smoked. Now she has covid. She's already way sicker with it than I was at my worst. This just sucks.
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I'm so sorry man. That sucks. Keep an eye on her.
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My wife just tested positive for covid now. This is not good. She already has bad lungs due to COPD and she's never smoked. Now she has covid. She's already way sicker with it than I was at my worst. This just sucks.
Ugh.
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I'm sorry to hear that Professor. I hope she gets well soon! :heart
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Thanks everyone. This has been an eye opening experience for me. I was already debating my concert going future due to the pain from my old injuries, but this has me thinking the decision might be made for me. I can't risk my wife's health for something like this. I leave a standing show in immense pain but I do it for the music. With covid constantly evolving, not sure it is worth the risk anymore.
I retested yesterday and am still positive and I still have no taste or smell. Really hope I get it back.
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Thanks everyone. This has been an eye opening experience for me. I was already debating my concert going future due to the pain from my old injuries, but this has me thinking the decision might be made for me. I can't risk my wife's health for something like this. I leave a standing show in immense pain but I do it for the music. With covid constantly evolving, not sure it is worth the risk anymore.
I retested yesterday and am still positive and I still have no taste or smell. Really hope I get it back.
Has the missus turned the corner?
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Thanks everyone. This has been an eye opening experience for me. I was already debating my concert going future due to the pain from my old injuries, but this has me thinking the decision might be made for me. I can't risk my wife's health for something like this. I leave a standing show in immense pain but I do it for the music. With covid constantly evolving, not sure it is worth the risk anymore.
I retested yesterday and am still positive and I still have no taste or smell. Really hope I get it back.
Has the missus turned the corner?
So far, she is doing okay, considering. She is much sicker than I was but her breathing has been mostly unaffected so I take that as a very good sign. She just got past a recent lung infection that she finished treatment for just before the covid hit so I'm hoping the steriods and other meds she was on might have helped a bit. No way of knowing really. It just has my stress level elevated.
The only real positive I can glean from this is that I am losing weight. With no ability to enjoy food and drink, I am doing just enough to stave off any hunger pain and eating the simplest, blandest, most filling foods to satify my stomach. Still, don't want this to go on too much longer.
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Thanks everyone. This has been an eye opening experience for me. I was already debating my concert going future due to the pain from my old injuries, but this has me thinking the decision might be made for me. I can't risk my wife's health for something like this. I leave a standing show in immense pain but I do it for the music. With covid constantly evolving, not sure it is worth the risk anymore.
I retested yesterday and am still positive and I still have no taste or smell. Really hope I get it back.
Its very sobering to read this. I'm so sorry you and your wife are going through this, its such a helpless situation and all you can do it wait it out. And the sad thing is this is not an age thing. There are a lot of young and "healthy" people getting severely affected by all of this. My heart goes out to you both.
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Well, my nose is starting to work again. I am picking up scents. Not perfect, but a very good sign. This last week has sucked. I don't recommend losing you senses of taste and smell.
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Well, my nose is starting to work again. I am picking up scents. Not perfect, but a very good sign. This last week has sucked. I don't recommend losing you senses of taste and smell.
Glad to hear it. Enjoying my morning coffee after mine petered out was incredibly, well, joyful.
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Ugh, dealing with constant internet outages is beyond frustrating! Just when you're in the middle of something important, everything comes crashing down🙄.
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My nose stopped working again. Had it for all of about 7 hours yesterday. I'm finally covid negative, just need my nose to straighten itself out.
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if i may be frank, the scenes from a hat thread pissed me off today >:( :censored not gonna keep talking about it but just venting. really sucks to see that shit in what should be a safe space to discuss dream theater, prog, and other cool stuff!
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Hey Professor - glad you are testing negative but sorry about the olfactory set back. Hope that turns around again soon.
if i may be frank, the scenes from a hat thread pissed me off today >:( :censored not gonna keep talking about it but just venting. really sucks to see that shit in what should be a safe space to discuss dream theater, prog, and other cool stuff!
As one of the few female posters here, I'd certainly welcome your participation in the P&R section of the board (you need to request permission to enter). We have several threads there that may interest you. And I for one, welcome the perspective of people who are working on their own relationship with misogyny and/or patriarchy. It does impact all of us whether we want it to or not...many times is ways we are not even aware of all those internalized beliefs that have become normalized over our lifetimes.
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My nose stopped working again. Had it for all of about 7 hours yesterday. I'm finally covid negative, just need my nose to straighten itself out.
I hope you get it back quick.
My partner tested positive for Covid last October, and she lost her sense of taste and got it back just in time for Thanksgiving. She loves coffee and she couldn't have it for a good 3 months even after recovering her sense of taste. I hope you get it back much sooner than that.
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Hey Professor - glad you are testing negative but sorry about the olfactory set back. Hope that turns around again soon.
if i may be frank, the scenes from a hat thread pissed me off today >:( :censored not gonna keep talking about it but just venting. really sucks to see that shit in what should be a safe space to discuss dream theater, prog, and other cool stuff!
As one of the few female posters here, I'd certainly welcome your participation in the P&R section of the board (you need to request permission to enter). We have several threads there that may interest you. And I for one, welcome the perspective of people who are working on their own relationship with misogyny and/or patriarchy. It does impact all of us whether we want it to or not...many times is ways we are not even aware of all those internalized beliefs that have become normalized over our lifetimes.
thank you for your support and welcome invitation! i think i'd like to get a little more familiarized with things here before i dive in on that area, but i appreciate you reaching out!
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Absolutely thrilled by the impasse between Disney and Spectrum, right here at the start of football season.
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My own inability to focus on virtual training meetings. I find myself at best, responding to work emails, or at worst, posting here.
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My own inability to focus on virtual training meetings. I find myself at best, responding to work emails, or at worst, posting here.
The worst is when it's set up where you can't just skip through to the (generally) always simple 'test' over the content. That you have to sit through whatever slide presentation or BS video clip
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U ordered something online, and it arrived damaged. Now I have to deal with customer service.
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My own inability to focus on virtual training meetings. I find myself at best, responding to work emails, or at worst, posting here.
Ha! This is me. The other day I have mandatory online courses I had to do. I just skipped through all the shit to the assessment and just winged it for a pass. :metal
I'm the same though, when it comes to this sort of stuff I have the attention span of a flea.
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I just "winged" it 8 times to pass those kinds of assessments for my trainings this year.
"Winged" in this case means I answered the common sense assessments after the videos were played on mute beforehand.
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I just "winged" it 8 times to pass those kinds of assessments for my trainings this year.
"Winged" in this case means I answered the common sense assessments after the videos were played on mute beforehand.
Pretty much. Anyone who actually sits through these and passes the assessments should be fucking fired.
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U ordered something online, and it arrived damaged. Now I have to deal with customer service.
Funny thing. This week I've had to deal with Spectrum and Amazon customer service, and surprisingly they both turned out great. It was super-aggravating trying to get to a real person, but once I did (voice with Spectrum and chat with Amazon) they were sharp and on the ball. It infuriates me that they've made it so hard to get to a person, but I think the effect is that it weeds out the dullards, and the CSRs are much better as a result. I will say that the front line of Spectrum is still worthless, but once you get kicked up to tier 2 (retention) they're as nice as can be.
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I completely agree! It can be incredibly frustrating when you just want to speak with a real person to resolve an issue but you're stuck with chatbots that can't understand the problem or help. It feels like a never-ending loop sometimes. Human interaction in customer service is irreplaceable!
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4 interviews set up for the last 3 work days, 4 no shows. Grrrrrrrrr
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4 interviews set up for the last 3 work days, 4 no shows. Grrrrrrrrr
Mate, I'm in the same boat. I've had I think 3 no shows, 1 pull out last minute and one that was good but then declined as he found something closer. So frustrating.
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Someone here on our custodial staff is a terrorist who puts the toilet paper on wrong. It's supposed to go over the top, not underneath, as the creator intended! >:( :censored :censored :censored
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Someone here on our custodial staff is a terrorist who puts the toilet paper on wrong. It's supposed to go over the top, not underneath, as the creator intended! >:( :censored :censored :censored
PREACH!
There can be only one way.
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He probably goes between his legs to wipe his ass.
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He probably goes between his legs to wipe his ass.
Isn't that the only way?
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What really ticked me off today was my neighbor's never-ending lawn mower symphony at the crack of dawn. Seriously, who mows their lawn at 6 AM? But, on the bright side, I found solace in a giant cup of coffee, so I'm slowly recovering from my wake-up call from hell. Here's to hoping the rest of the day goes smoother for all of us!
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Paying sales tax on used vehicles. They already got their sales tax on the initial sale. Why do they get to tax it again?
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What really ticked me off today was my neighbor's never-ending lawn mower symphony at the crack of dawn. Seriously, who mows their lawn at 6 AM? But, on the bright side, I found solace in a giant cup of coffee, so I'm slowly recovering from my wake-up call from hell. Here's to hoping the rest of the day goes smoother for all of us!
At least lawn mowers serve a valid purpose. Leaf blowers are my bane.
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What really ticked me off today was my neighbor's never-ending lawn mower symphony at the crack of dawn. Seriously, who mows their lawn at 6 AM? But, on the bright side, I found solace in a giant cup of coffee, so I'm slowly recovering from my wake-up call from hell. Here's to hoping the rest of the day goes smoother for all of us!
oof, have some respect for the neighbors. 9am start time IMO and even then that would piss me off if it was the weekend.
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This is a niche problem, but due to some anti money laundering legislation coming in to force in Sweden next month, I'm probably going to have to switch banks in order to retain access to a service that is pretty vital if you live in Sweden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BankID
Basically it is an electronic identification service, and used to log into a load of services, including a lot of online government services. Up until recently, these certificates were issued to your devices by your bank. However, because a lot of untowards persons were abusing the mobile version of this software, they introduced a law requiring that you authenticate it electronically with an ID, and Sweden being Sweden decided only IDs that can be issued to citizens would be valid for this process (which I am not). You CAN authenticate in person by going to your local bank branch and showing your ID...but my bank doesn't have any. Its online only. They do not have a solution for this.
So....yeah. Bureaucracy is a fun thing.
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Do you have to actually switch banks? Maybe open a new account that has a building to do the ID stuff and then just continue using your other bank?
I basically do this now, although not for any ID purpose. Robinhood's money account is incredible online service IMO, but I keep my Chase account for the convenience of having an actual bank to go to (it's been awhile since I needed to) and also for some other services I use from them (credit cards).
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What really ticked me off today was my neighbor's never-ending lawn mower symphony at the crack of dawn. Seriously, who mows their lawn at 6 AM? But, on the bright side, I found solace in a giant cup of coffee, so I'm slowly recovering from my wake-up call from hell. Here's to hoping the rest of the day goes smoother for all of us!
While gun-play might be the simplest solution, if you actually want to go the diplomatic route mention to him that mowing the lawn while it's still wet from morning dew is bad for the grass. You're supposed to wait until the sun's been on it for a bit. Also, the difference in temperature between 6-9 is negligible.
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Do you have to actually switch banks? Maybe open a new account that has a building to do the ID stuff and then just continue using your other bank?
I basically do this now, although not for any ID purpose. Robinhood's money account is incredible online service IMO, but I keep my Chase account for the convenience of having an actual bank to go to (it's been awhile since I needed to) and also for some other services I use from them (credit cards).
I've actually been mulling this over simply to grab some meaningful interest on my savings. Out of curiosity, how hard is it to move chunks of money back and forth between the online and brick and mortar banks? It's rare, but sometimes I need to temporarily move a paycheck or two out of savings and into checking. Not to mention the monthly contributions to savings.
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Do you have to actually switch banks? Maybe open a new account that has a building to do the ID stuff and then just continue using your other bank?
I basically do this now, although not for any ID purpose. Robinhood's money account is incredible online service IMO, but I keep my Chase account for the convenience of having an actual bank to go to (it's been awhile since I needed to) and also for some other services I use from them (credit cards).
Might be possible, but Swedish banks can be finnicky buggers at the best of times so I'm not sure they will let me open an account if I'm not using is actively. In any case, I'm more annoyed at the government not thinking about it, especially given there IS an ID card everyone who is eligible to use BankID can apply for, but we cant use that for...reasons.
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Do you have to actually switch banks? Maybe open a new account that has a building to do the ID stuff and then just continue using your other bank?
I basically do this now, although not for any ID purpose. Robinhood's money account is incredible online service IMO, but I keep my Chase account for the convenience of having an actual bank to go to (it's been awhile since I needed to) and also for some other services I use from them (credit cards).
I've actually been mulling this over simply to grab some meaningful interest on my savings. Out of curiosity, how hard is it to move chunks of money back and forth between the online and brick and mortar banks? It's rare, but sometimes I need to temporarily move a paycheck or two out of savings and into checking. Not to mention the monthly contributions to savings.
I do this on a regular basis and it happens in 24 hours or less. I transferred a significant amount of money yesterday morning from my online savings to buy a car and it was in my checking account by mid afternoon. Totally worth the slight delay to make 5% interest on my savings. Heck it was worth it when interest rates were only 1%. My brick and mortar bank's savings is like 0.01%
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Do you have to actually switch banks? Maybe open a new account that has a building to do the ID stuff and then just continue using your other bank?
I basically do this now, although not for any ID purpose. Robinhood's money account is incredible online service IMO, but I keep my Chase account for the convenience of having an actual bank to go to (it's been awhile since I needed to) and also for some other services I use from them (credit cards).
I've actually been mulling this over simply to grab some meaningful interest on my savings. Out of curiosity, how hard is it to move chunks of money back and forth between the online and brick and mortar banks? It's rare, but sometimes I need to temporarily move a paycheck or two out of savings and into checking. Not to mention the monthly contributions to savings.
It's easy. It does take a few days to process, Robinhood will actually credit you the money instantly though if you want to invest it, but I'm not sure you can withdraw it as cash right away until the transfer is complete. It's free if you don't mind the wait and does have a fee if you want it instantly. I do however pay the $5 a month for Gold which gets me the %4.9 interest paid out monthly on my cash. It easily is worth the $5. I'm not entirely sure off my head if Gold has any benefits for transfers over the free version though. I've used Robinhood for a long time now for investments, but only just this year started using it for banking specifically for that near 5% interest rate that's been earning me a nice chunk of change each month.
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I've literally never heard of Robinhood.
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Do you have to actually switch banks? Maybe open a new account that has a building to do the ID stuff and then just continue using your other bank?
I basically do this now, although not for any ID purpose. Robinhood's money account is incredible online service IMO, but I keep my Chase account for the convenience of having an actual bank to go to (it's been awhile since I needed to) and also for some other services I use from them (credit cards).
I've actually been mulling this over simply to grab some meaningful interest on my savings. Out of curiosity, how hard is it to move chunks of money back and forth between the online and brick and mortar banks? It's rare, but sometimes I need to temporarily move a paycheck or two out of savings and into checking. Not to mention the monthly contributions to savings.
I bank with an on-line only bank. I rarely have problems of this kind (they are quick on the trigger on fraud detection, though, which occasionally leaves me calling them from the cash register at a store if I'm traveling). I have a local bank for "big cash deposits" (NEVER happens) or big cash/certified check withdrawals (occasionally happens; house purchase, car purchases). Between Zelle, their on-line wire service ($20) or good old fashioned "check e-Deposit", I've never had any situation I couldn't work around.
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I've literally never heard of Robinhood.
Didn't expect you to :lol Free app for investing, no fees. And it does banking too.
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I've literally never heard of Robinhood.
Didn't expect you to :lol Free app for investing, no fees. And it does banking too.
:lol
Banking and investing through an app is really hard to wrap my head around.
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I actually love my brick and mortar bank. For typical day to day stuff they've earned my business and would have to really, really shit the bed to lose it. But, as long as they're taking care of my bill pay, and they will be, getting money from savings instantly will sometimes be necessary. Perhaps I'll work out a hybrid solution. Maybe keep an emergency paycheck in their savings or something.
I bank with an on-line only bank. I rarely have problems of this kind (they are quick on the trigger on fraud detection, though, which occasionally leaves me calling them from the cash register at a store if I'm traveling). I have a local bank for "big cash deposits" (NEVER happens) or big cash/certified check withdrawals (occasionally happens; house purchase, car purchases). Between Zelle, their on-line wire service ($20) or good old fashioned "check e-Deposit", I've never had any situation I couldn't work around.
Zelle is another thing I don't want any part of. I'm going to sound like TAC here (but at least I do know what it is), but it just doesn't feel right to me. Besides, earning points on my credit card will always be my preferred method of payment.
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I actually love my brick and mortar bank. For typical day to day stuff they've earned my business and would have to really, really shit the bed to lose it. But, as long as they're taking care of my bill pay, and they will be, getting money from savings instantly will sometimes be necessary. Perhaps I'll work out a hybrid solution. Maybe keep an emergency paycheck in their savings or something.
I bank with an on-line only bank. I rarely have problems of this kind (they are quick on the trigger on fraud detection, though, which occasionally leaves me calling them from the cash register at a store if I'm traveling). I have a local bank for "big cash deposits" (NEVER happens) or big cash/certified check withdrawals (occasionally happens; house purchase, car purchases). Between Zelle, their on-line wire service ($20) or good old fashioned "check e-Deposit", I've never had any situation I couldn't work around.
Zelle is another thing I don't want any part of. I'm going to sound like TAC here (but at least I do know what it is), but it just doesn't feel right to me. Besides, earning points on my credit card will always be my preferred method of payment.
I have no interest in zelle either. 20 bucks seems expensive compared to 5 for Robinhood, but I don't know anything about Zelle's paid version. I've just used it to transfer money occassionally when that's someone's prefered method over say Venmo.
As for the bolded, that's exactly what I do. I have 3k in there as emergency cash and I still have it as my direct deposit so I pay most of my bills using my brick and mortar bank. But I take the extra over that 3k and throw it into the robinhood and thats where all the rest of my cash sits to earn that nice interest. It's been about 6 months on this hybrid model, but it's working incredible and that 5$ is really negligible compared to the interest earned. Also, I tested my robinhood money account in Germany and was able to pull Euros out without any issues.
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Verizon has earned my ire today.
So back in February I got an amazing deal to replace the phones of my wife, my son and myself. Everything went through without a hitch and I got major device discounts added to my bill.
Then they start spamming me more recently about their new MyPlan thing. I didn't care as my plan was fine. Then they notify me that they will start adding a surcharge to each line on my account for being on a legacy plan and I should switch to avoid it. I look into it and realize it would actually save me money to move to a current plan so I pull the trigger.
Today I get a bunch of emails stating that my son and I will lose our device promotion discounts because we changed our plans in February. I did not change my plan in February. I got new phones then. I changed my plan a month ago because they pretty much goaded me into it. Now I have to go to war with them to maintain my discounts. If I lose, my bill will increase by almost $55 a month.
Not happy about this.
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I actually love my brick and mortar bank. For typical day to day stuff they've earned my business and would have to really, really shit the bed to lose it. But, as long as they're taking care of my bill pay, and they will be, getting money from savings instantly will sometimes be necessary. Perhaps I'll work out a hybrid solution. Maybe keep an emergency paycheck in their savings or something.
I bank with an on-line only bank. I rarely have problems of this kind (they are quick on the trigger on fraud detection, though, which occasionally leaves me calling them from the cash register at a store if I'm traveling). I have a local bank for "big cash deposits" (NEVER happens) or big cash/certified check withdrawals (occasionally happens; house purchase, car purchases). Between Zelle, their on-line wire service ($20) or good old fashioned "check e-Deposit", I've never had any situation I couldn't work around.
Zelle is another thing I don't want any part of. I'm going to sound like TAC here (but at least I do know what it is), but it just doesn't feel right to me. Besides, earning points on my credit card will always be my preferred method of payment.
And you can do that. I only use Zelle with my daughter, honestly. It's a small part of the process. I was trying to say that there are other ways of moving money than walking into a branch lobby.
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I've only used Zelle to pay my Fantasy Football dues. Pretty easy.
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So last week I found out that our auto insurance is going up by $600/year. We've been with Allstate for 30 years at least. We haven't made a claim since my kid had an accident in 2018 that was not her fault. We have had zero driving infractions.
Of course I called to say WTF and of course they said there is nothing they can do. Because the cost of auto repair and health care to treat injuries is skyrocketing. I guess on the one hand, I get it. But on the other hand :censored
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Fuck em, time to find someone new. My auto insurance goes down slightly every year. The time it goes up with my aging car (if it does) is the time I look for new insurance.
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I've seen that a lot of these insurance companies are jacking up rates on every policy for everyone as a way to 'make up' for all the payouts they have been having to make for all the recent disasters. I mean, look at the exodus of insurance companies abandoning Florida. We're paying for people we have never met.
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Fuck em, time to find someone new. My auto insurance goes down slightly every year. The time it goes up with my aging car (if it does) is the time I look for new insurance.
I do the same if my rate goes up. Funny enough last year my insurance went up almost $100 with progressive, I call to cancel because I found a cheaper rate and progressive started a new policy that's even cheaper. Stupid as hell.
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And the American myth that "insurance is free money" goes poof!
A year later there is STILL damage on Fort Myers Beach from Hurricane Ian. You drive around Cape Coral, and it's getting fewer and fewer but there are still piles of debris out on the road shoulders.
SOMEONE has to pay for all this.
(This is in some decent part why I am for single payer, even though it generally goes against my outlook on economics.)
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So last week I found out that our auto insurance is going up by $600/year. We've been with Allstate for 30 years at least. We haven't made a claim since my kid had an accident in 2018 that was not her fault. We have had zero driving infractions.
Of course I called to say WTF and of course they said there is nothing they can do. Because the cost of auto repair and health care to treat injuries is skyrocketing. I guess on the one hand, I get it. But on the other hand :censored
That's a pretty steep increase with no new drivers, no infractions, and no claims.
It's not necessarily uncommon for there to be sizable increases statewide if your state insurance commissioner approved it, but that seems a little high.
Unless you purchased a couple of sports cars this year, or something.
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The cost of fixing a car has damn sure gotten more expensive. Just the way the manufactures have planned it. Right to repair is something desperately needed, and something I'm pretty certain our corporate overlords will never allow to happen. I was just complaining to a friend that mechanics have gotten expensive and sleazy right at the point I'm no longer interested in doing my own repair work and can (could) afford to pay for it.
The good news is that I live in a city under siege by illegal immigrants (according to some, at least), so going forward I'm just going to buy the parts I need and take them to el mecanico and give him some shiny pesos to install. Even though I have an old enough car that working on it shouldn't require anything new and fancy, I still have to pay for the updated gear to work on the new ones. Anybody can replace a water pump. Fuck yeah, capitalism!
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I work in insurance, specifically with the team that models large scale disaster events and the damage that comes with them. Auto claims are obviously a component of that.
Like everything else, new and used car values have sky rocketed. My SUV (bought used) has only depreciated about $8K (35%) in the last 5 years despite me putting 105K more miles on it.
For the last 5 years, my insurer has been insuring me assuming my car would cost them maybe $10K under a total loss, and now it's closer to $15K. It's an astronomical increase in their view of risk once you apply the same math to all of their policy holders. Even not taking into account a total loss, and along the lines of what Barto mentioned, repairs are a small fortune now. Replacing a driver door and side mirror (contain lots of tech these days) could cost almost double what it did 3 years ago once you factor in the part, paint, labor costs (both garage and insurer), etc.
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My family makes fun of me a lot for this. "Back in the day, I could paint my entire car at MAACO for $400, as long as I didn't change the color". Just this past week, I paid $850 (cash; it would have been $1000 if I used a card) to JUST have my front hood repainted, and that's with ZERO body work or prep, on a 2013 car.
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Uh-oh, better get, MAACO!
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I've seen that a lot of these insurance companies are jacking up rates on every policy for everyone as a way to 'make up' for all the payouts they have been having to make for all the recent disasters. I mean, look at the exodus of insurance companies abandoning Florida. We're paying for people we have never met.
The company that gave me their home insurance policy last year pulled out of the state last month. I took Citizen's coverage which were offering the same policy but cost over 60% of my previous one. :tdwn
I fear it's going to up even more after Idalia's carnage.
There was also a proposal in our city to raise the property taxes to pay for certain infrastructure. Only problem was that it was going to raise my property tax assessment by 150% instead of the 100% I was anticipating.
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Uh-oh, better get, MAACO!
:lol
First thing I thought of.
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My family makes fun of me a lot for this. "Back in the day, I could paint my entire car at MAACO for $400, as long as I didn't change the color". Just this past week, I paid $850 (cash; it would have been $1000 if I used a card) to JUST have my front hood repainted, and that's with ZERO body work or prep, on a 2013 car.
As someone whose used MAACO in the past I'd rather pay $400 to a blind chimp to paint a car.
In relation to cars they are just more complicated machines these days coupled with the price increases of repair shops. I traded in my porsche a few weeks ago because, yet again, it broke down and in the 13 months I had it over $22k of warranty work was done to it.
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i got bbq sauce on my waffles
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i got bbq sauce on my waffles
I hate when that happens. I'm pissed for you.
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i got bbq sauce on my waffles
Add chicken and cheese and rock on.
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got paged at work yesterday and had to fix a problem that delayed me long enough to miss the herbie hancock concert i was supposed to go to :censored :censored :censored
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Only the DMV can find a way to improve something to be far worse than it already was. I was steeling myself to spend two hours waiting in line for those fucksticks to renew my license, only to find that it's now appointment only at all locations. This should be a great thing, but the appointments are booked 2 months out, naturally. Moreover, half the time when you try to make an appointment in an available slot it's suddenly not available. Worst of all, once you make an appointment you can no longer search for better dates (that seem to pop up all the time) without first cancelling your existing appointment. I'm booked six weeks out in a city 30 minutes outside of Dallas, which is fine, I like East Texas, but I no longer have the option to look for the same-day appointments that pop up every morning. I'm convinced they're using hundreds of hours of AI computation to find ways to make things as miserable as possible.
Now I'm scrambling to get my car registered, because even though Dallas cops don't care about registration, they will pull you over just to get a look inside your car, and what would normally be a offensive but tolerable pretextual stop can now lead to me walking home.
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Only the DMV can find a way to improve something to be far worse than it already was. I was steeling myself to spend two hours waiting in line for those fucksticks to renew my license, only to find that it's now appointment only at all locations. This should be a great thing, but the appointments are booked 2 months out, naturally. Moreover, half the time when you try to make an appointment in an available slot it's suddenly not available. Worst of all, once you make an appointment you can no longer search for better dates (that seem to pop up all the time) without first cancelling your existing appointment. I'm booked six weeks out in a city 30 minutes outside of Dallas, which is fine, I like East Texas, but I no longer have the option to look for the same-day appointments that pop up every morning. I'm convinced they're using hundreds of hours of AI computation to find ways to make things as miserable as possible.
Now I'm scrambling to get my car registered, because even though Dallas cops don't care about registration, they will pull you over just to get a look inside your car, and what would normally be a offensive but tolerable pretextual stop can now lead to me walking home.
No option to renew your license online? I just did that here in NC (although you can't do consecutive renewals online, so next time, I have to visit an office).
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Only the DMV can find a way to improve something to be far worse than it already was. I was steeling myself to spend two hours waiting in line for those fucksticks to renew my license, only to find that it's now appointment only at all locations. This should be a great thing, but the appointments are booked 2 months out, naturally. Moreover, half the time when you try to make an appointment in an available slot it's suddenly not available. Worst of all, once you make an appointment you can no longer search for better dates (that seem to pop up all the time) without first cancelling your existing appointment. I'm booked six weeks out in a city 30 minutes outside of Dallas, which is fine, I like East Texas, but I no longer have the option to look for the same-day appointments that pop up every morning. I'm convinced they're using hundreds of hours of AI computation to find ways to make things as miserable as possible.
Now I'm scrambling to get my car registered, because even though Dallas cops don't care about registration, they will pull you over just to get a look inside your car, and what would normally be a offensive but tolerable pretextual stop can now lead to me walking home.
No option to renew your license online? I just did that here in NC (although you can't do consecutive renewals online, so next time, I have to visit an office).
I was actually in my 30s when my last renewal was done.
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I just came here to complain about the DMV as well!!
I paid off my car two months ago and the title got lost in the mail. So I have to go to the DMV with paperwork from the bank in order for the state to release them from my lien and to issue me a new title.
Same in CT - Appointment only.
Of the 7 DMVs within 45-60 minutes from me, only one, ONE, has an available appointment within the next 90 days. Their calendars don't allow you to schedule beyond that. After being on hold for an hour and forty minutes, I finally got through to a rep on the phone. I asked if that was a glitch on the website, and the response was "no, it's just like that some times". My concern is what happens if I get T-boned and my car is totaled before I get a new title?
I'm all for single payer healthcare, but if it's managed like the DMV is, no thanks.
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Will they let you look more closer appointments while keeping your existing one? That's what pisses me off about the situation down here. I can't even look at the schedules without first having to dump my current one.
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I just came here to complain about the DMV as well!!
I paid off my car two months ago and the title got lost in the mail. So I have to go to the DMV with paperwork from the bank in order for the state to release them from my lien and to issue me a new title.
Same in CT - Appointment only.
Of the 7 DMVs within 45-60 minutes from me, only one, ONE, has an available appointment within the next 90 days. Their calendars don't allow you to schedule beyond that. After being on hold for an hour and forty minutes, I finally got through to a rep on the phone. I asked if that was a glitch on the website, and the response was "no, it's just like that some times". My concern is what happens if I get T-boned and my car is totaled before I get a new title?
I'm all for single payer healthcare, but if it's managed like the DMV is, no thanks.
So, I live in the same state as Chino, and I have to go in to get my registration changed on my truck, and to register a new (well, new to us) vehicle for my step son. I signed up last week and have an appointment on I think it's September 30th. But the process is actually more convoluted than even Chino said. So it depends on what action you want done as to what appointments you get to see. If you have a driver's license issue, you can get appointments in as little as two weeks. If you have a registration issue, you can get appointments about four to six weeks out or so, depending on where you feel like driving to (there are I think 10 DMV locations across the state; that's why mine is on the short side of four weeks). Title issues, as Chino has noted, are much further out.
My driver's license has my old address on it (they don't make you get a new one for a change of address, you just add the new address on the back in handwriting on a sticker.). You can do up to three transactions at a time; I might sign up for a "license" issue, ask that they give me a dup, then do my two registration issues. The person at the DMV is going to hate me, but so be it.
Tip, though, Chino: depending on your circumstances, I think you can request a new title online. It's $25. If the title that was coming to you in the mail had the lien removed, you shouldn't have to prove it again. If it wasn't then I think you have no choice but to do it in person or by mail. (Sorry, I know you're thorough; I'm just trying to help, not second guess you.)
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On the upside, though, the appointment only is the best way to do it. I have, in the past, waited entire DAYS in the DMV and never got my number called. Now, the most you wait is maybe 15, 20 minutes, depending on where you go (I go to a quiet little town in northwest CT and I've never seen more than 15 people there at one time).
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Will they let you look more closer appointments while keeping your existing one? That's what pisses me off about the situation down here. I can't even look at the schedules without first having to dump my current one.
I'm actually not sure. I'd have to try. I did see a footnote that said something like "you can only have a maximum of two appointment booked at a time". If that's the case, I might be able to snag an earlier one without having to risk losing my place in line by cancelling the other one first.
On the upside, though, the appointment only is the best way to do it. I have, in the past, waited entire DAYS in the DMV and never got my number called. Now, the most you wait is maybe 15, 20 minutes, depending on where you go (I go to a quiet little town in northwest CT and I've never seen more than 15 people there at one time).
That's true. Last time I had to go, to the the DMV's credit, I was in and out in about 10 minutes. Due to the lien, I have no choice but to go into the place in person (I didn't see anything about by mail). I've got a notarized letter from BoA in Texas, and I have to hand that over to the DMV.
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On the upside, though, the appointment only is the best way to do it. I have, in the past, waited entire DAYS in the DMV and never got my number called. Now, the most you wait is maybe 15, 20 minutes, depending on where you go (I go to a quiet little town in northwest CT and I've never seen more than 15 people there at one time).
The last few times I've driven to Waxahachi to get mine done, about 45 minutes south, and it's been a snap. Well worth the drive time and gas. The problem here is that they put the DPS places in the worst parts of Dallas, so the waits are just ungodly. Waiting in line at the VA hospital to get your dick amputated would be more bearable. I could be in and out of Waxahachi in half an hour, or spend 3 hours waiting in line at one of the Oak Cliff branches. No contest.
Same rule applies for cable companies, too. You can save two hours by driving one hour outside of town.
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Fuck em, time to find someone new. My auto insurance goes down slightly every year. The time it goes up with my aging car (if it does) is the time I look for new insurance.
I do the same if my rate goes up. Funny enough last year my insurance went up almost $100 with progressive, I call to cancel because I found a cheaper rate and progressive started a new policy that's even cheaper. Stupid as hell.
So quick update - I had forgotten that when we had our then teens on our policy, we had upgraded to the "Gold Star" membership (or whatever the fuck they call it). This essentially allowed us one claim a year that would not count toward any policy raise and each passing year without any claim, brought our deductible down by $100. So we carry a $500 deductible and since it has now been 5 years without a claim, our deductible was essentially zero. No way in hell they were going to put up with that. So they aggressively jacked up the rates for us hoping we'd drop the Gold Star status - which is exactly what we did - and now our policy went up only - only - about $200 a year.
And last week I heard on NPR that all auto insurance policies are going up by about 20-30 percent across the board. So we did not switch companies. Our plan is to get through our home remodeling adventure and then do a deep dive into looking at other companies before our 6 months is up for renewal again.
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Disclosure - I'm not a hunter. It's just not my thing, but I respect people's choice to do so.
On Friday night around 7pm, we were coming home from the store and drove past a house towards the end of the block. I've had some issues with them before regarding various things and just shake my head. But this is a new one for me. There were a few additional vehicles parked in front of the house. We passed by and they had a MASSIVE deer hung by rack or hoist, right in the center of their driveway. My wife thought it was really gross, I just shrugged my shoulders, but we both knew what they were doing - bloodletting it. My kids saw it, but a car was thankfully blocking the view of it's head, so they didn't see any gore.
So this morning (Monday) we are walking up to the corner, which is our kids' bus stop. We walk past their driveway and there is a large black smear and an awful, rotten smell of dead carcass was all around. It's garbage day, so maybe they threw out some of the carcass (which is appropriate) and it smells. Maybe the driveway stunk from the spilled blood (my likely guess). I don't know, but I actually did place a call to the non-emergency police department to see if there was any ordinance prohibiting that kind of stuff. The community service officer said there wasn't (aside from bad odors emanating from a residence), but he would at least stop by the house and check it out, as well as convey the message that they should try and clean up after themselves a bit better. The smell was so strong that I actually felt queasy, and that rarely happens to me from bad smells.
In all of my years living in the suburbs, I've known plenty of people who are into guns and/or go hunting. I have never seen someone string up a dead animal in their driveway and do the dirty work in full view of anyone who might be passing by.
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Wow, that's crazy. yeah, clean your shit up!
When I was a kid, for a bit we had a next door neighbor from "the old country" and he used to hang animals on his fence. Goats, rabbits.....stick their heads between the pickets..
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Man, living over here I can't fathom that shit. I just don't understand hunting, I think it's awful and unnecessary.
Wow, that's crazy. yeah, clean your shit up!
When I was a kid, for a bit we had a next door neighbor from "the old country" and he used to hang animals on his fence. Goats, rabbits.....stick their heads between the pickets..
WTF?! :lol
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I live in NJ and sometimes I feel like the hunting culture is shocking. I experienced this going to college in PA where I was the minority in having never gone hunting before. It's not common at all near me to see any carcass being worked on so I'd be fairly mortified if my neighbor was doing that. Granted, I don't have anything against actual hunting. I understand most people do it the right way. It's just not very common in the part of the world I live in (even within the US).
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I live in NJ and sometimes I feel like the hunting culture is shocking. I experienced this going to college in PA where I was the minority in having never gone hunting before. It's not common at all near me to see any carcass being worked on so I'd be fairly mortified if my neighbor was doing that. Granted, I don't have anything against actual hunting. I understand most people do it the right way. It's just not very common in the part of the world I live in (even within the US).
It's common here in the northern Chicago suburbs where I'm at (we're just a few miles south of the Wisconsin border, and hunting is big up there). My thing was just the mess - don't do it right out in front of your house, in a suburban neighborhood. Have some consideration for your neighbors and use the garage or backyard. And clean up the mess really well while you're at it.
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I live in NJ and sometimes I feel like the hunting culture is shocking. I experienced this going to college in PA where I was the minority in having never gone hunting before. It's not common at all near me to see any carcass being worked on so I'd be fairly mortified if my neighbor was doing that. Granted, I don't have anything against actual hunting. I understand most people do it the right way. It's just not very common in the part of the world I live in (even within the US).
It's common here in the northern Chicago suburbs where I'm at (we're just a few miles south of the Wisconsin border, and hunting is big up there). My thing was just the mess - don't do it right out in front of your house, in a suburban neighborhood. Have some consideration for your neighbors and use the garage or backyard. And clean up the mess really well while you're at it.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at with people doing it the right way from my experience. All my time in PA, I saw plenty of hunters doing their thing, but never so blatant with a carcass in public view.
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Living in south FL and I didn't know people thought hunting is awful. I have never done it myself (maybe once when I was young) but it's so ingrained as being normal here.
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We gotta get rid of all the excess deer up here somehow since we killed off all the predators. It's either hit them with our cars or hunt them.
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Living in south FL and I didn't know people thought hunting is awful. I have never done it myself (maybe once when I was young) but it's so ingrained as being normal here.
It's normal here too, I just found it very strange to see someone have the dead animal strung up in full view of the neighborhood and am lucky that my kids didn't see the gory mess as we drove past. The residents of that house have zero consideration for their neighbors and those of us who live on the street, so it's par for the course with them.
We gotta get rid of all the excess deer up here somehow since we killed off all the predators. It's either hit them with our cars or hunt them.
I agree - I know hunting is useful and culls certain animal populations down to manageable numbers. Deer season is starting up and there are mornings when it's quiet and you can hear the gunshots in the distance. I have no problem with hunters and people using the meat. The residents on my street are odd, however. The 10 year old girl who lives across from them said that she thinks they collect animal skulls, so she's probably seen a lot more that I haven't.
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We gotta get rid of all the excess deer up here somehow since we killed off all the predators. It's either hit them with our cars or hunt them.
From what I saw it didn't look to me like hunting them was an option. I drove through OH, MI, IL, and IA a few months back, and the amount of roadkill was simply astonishing. Ohio in particular. You couldn't drive more than a quarter mile without seeing a huge, spinning blood trail across the highway leading to a carcass. I've never seen anything like that shit before. Might be time to skip hunting and go directly to poisoning. Hell, that's probably why Harmony's insurance is going up so much.
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The trick is to introduce and/or protect wolves. In pretty much every region in the US where we've gotten wolf populations to rebound after over-hunting them, roadkill and traffic accidents caused by animals drop by huge factors. It saves states millions of dollars per year in response and repair efforts as well. I think I've read that some counties end up saving something like 30X more than what the wolf conservation efforts cost.
Interestingly enough, the deer count doesn't actually drop all that much. Their behavior changes and they don't spend as much time in open yards, farms, and fields (commonly near roads) because of the predators. They retreat to the woods.
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we introduced wolves in the mountains of CO and it's been going well :metal
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we introduced wolves in the mountains of CO and it's been going well :metal
The cool thing about wolves (K9s in general I guess) is that they can adapt to virtually any environment as long as they have a food source and access to running water. You can put them just about anywhere they won't freeze to death, and they'll find a way to get by. You could take those wolves out of CO and set them loose in the woods near a bayou in Mississippi, and they'd probably do just fine.
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Minnesota has the most wolves of any state in the lower 48 and it's for the most part gone pretty well in the northern half of the state. The hunters hate it though because there are fewer deer for them to shoot. My wife's uncles have openly said they shoot wolves when they see them, which is highly illegal. Bizarrely at one point the wolves were taken off the endangered species list since they were doing so well, and there was talk of a wolf hunting season. To me, you hunt either the predators, or the prey, not both. Hunt that one that is overpopulated.
We gotta get rid of all the excess deer up here somehow since we killed off all the predators. It's either hit them with our cars or hunt them.
From what I saw it didn't look to me like hunting them was an option. I drove through OH, MI, IL, and IA a few months back, and the amount of roadkill was simply astonishing. Ohio in particular. You couldn't drive more than a quarter mile without seeing a huge, spinning blood trail across the highway leading to a carcass. I've never seen anything like that shit before. Might be time to skip hunting and go directly to poisoning. Hell, that's probably why Harmony's insurance is going up so much.
Yeah, the roadkill is pretty nuts in the upper midwest. There's a dead deer every few miles. Racoons are even more common.
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This Covid crap is kicking the shit out of me. 3 days in: completely stuffed nose, cheeks are red and hot but no fever, body aches, coughing up mucus non stop. I'm wondering if its Covid with a side of nasty allergies. Make it stop!!!!!! >:(
Aaaand... I was supposed to go to Cape Cod for a long weekend with the Mrs. >:( :censored
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That sucks Glasser, I hope you feel better soon. I just got over covid from last week and had a lot of the same symptoms.
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This Covid crap is kicking the shit out of me. 3 days in: completely stuffed nose, cheeks are red and hot but no fever, body aches, coughing up mucus non stop. I'm wondering if its Covid with a side of nasty allergies. Make it stop!!!!!! >:(
Aaaand... I was supposed to go to Cape Cod for a long weekend with the Mrs. >:( :censored
Damn, that blows mate.
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Seeing/Reading headlines like this a dozen times a year:
"State senator Doug Larsen's death was confirmed Monday in an email that Republican Senate Majority Leader David Hogue sent to his fellow senators. The small plane crashed Sunday evening around 8.30pm after taking off north of Moab. 'Senator Doug Larsen, his wife Amy, and their two young children died in a plane crash last evening in Utah"
I find it extremely selfish to put your kids and even your spouse on one of these small planes that people learn to fly. I get it....it's a hobby and people like to fly....great....then do that at your own peril. This dude just killed his wife and kids and IMO it's just selfish. Fly alone to get your fix. There's absolutely nowhere they were heading they couldn't have gotten to by a car, bus or train that would have been safer, or at minimum had a greater chance of survival if there was a crash.
Those poor kids, led to their death by no choice of their own.
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simple darwinism IMO, lol. if people wanna fly dangerous planes or experimental submarines i say let 'em. it's a free country :metal
edit: missed the part about family dying with him. the spouse is a grown person and can make their own decisions, but it sucks to see kids died. hopefully the senator and their spouse enjoy burning in hell for ending their childrens' lives. if i had my way, their estate would be penalized (in whatever way possible/reasonable) for it, but i doubt that will happen
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simple darwinism IMO, lol. if people wanna fly dangerous planes or experimental submarines i say let 'em. it's a free country :metal
edit: missed the part about family dying with him. the spouse is a grown person and can make their own decisions, but it sucks to see kids died. hopefully the senator and their spouse enjoy burning in hell for ending their childrens' lives. if i had my way, their estate would be penalized (in whatever way possible/reasonable) for it, but i doubt that will happen
I don't know if I'd go that far with how much this aggravates me....being a Father of three I'm sure the panic and horror that he and his wife shared in the moments before them crashing just thinking of their kids in that moment was worse than any hell they would experience.
I know families do this all the time....people get their pilots license and there are thousands of flights a year by these amateur plots that are successful and we only hear about these tragedies. BUT....it's just so unfair to the kids who are trusting that thier parents are making the best decisions for their safety.
I worked for a guy years ago who had his license and would always ask me to go flying with him. And I always declined. He's never crashed or anything like that but I didn't want to be a headline.....
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I think people are probably overestimating the danger of civilian aviation. Statistics don't really work for comparing it to driving, but it's not some dangerous hobby people get their kicks off of. Much like driving, the safety is with the driver. Shitty drivers get their kids killed all the damn time and we don't rant about it. I know a fair amount about GA accidents, and 9 times out of 10 they happen because somebody makes a bad decision. Usually one that gets them in over their head.
I worked for a guy years ago who had his license and would always ask me to go flying with him. And I always declined. He's never crashed or anything like that but I didn't want to be a headline.....
I've considered this quite a bit, and my stance is that I'll fly with somebody if he was/is a military or commercial airline pilot. If it's somebody that learned on his own I'm a hard pass. The difference is that the former guys were trained to not make decisions on their own, but to follow basic guidelines. You either have enough fuel or you don't take off. The landing conditions are either good for your aircraft or you don't try to land. Things are either working alright or you declare an emergency and get on the ground. There's no questioning your decisions. Amateurs tend to try to rationalize things and that's how people crash their aircraft.
In this case, Larsen was a Lt. Colonel for the NG, and was in charge of an air wing. Safe bet he was a military pilot with a whole lot of flying hours, and flying his Apache/Aztec was probably as natural to him as driving a car is to either of us. This isn't a guy likely to make stupid decisions, and in and of itself simply flying your family to visit the folks isn't one.
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I think people are probably overestimating the danger of civilian aviation. Statistics don't really work for comparing it to driving, but it's not some dangerous hobby people get their kicks off of. Much like driving, the safety is with the driver. Shitty drivers get their kids killed all the damn time and we don't rant about it. I know a fair amount about GA accidents, and 9 times out of 10 they happen because somebody makes a bad decision. Usually one that gets them in over their head.
I worked for a guy years ago who had his license and would always ask me to go flying with him. And I always declined. He's never crashed or anything like that but I didn't want to be a headline.....
I've considered this quite a bit, and my stance is that I'll fly with somebody if he was/is a military or commercial airline pilot. If it's somebody that learned on his own I'm a hard pass. The difference is that the former guys were trained to not make decisions on their own, but to follow basic guidelines. You either have enough fuel or you don't take off. The landing conditions are either good for your aircraft or you don't try to land. Things are either working alright or you declare an emergency and get on the ground. There's no questioning your decisions. Amateurs tend to try to rationalize things and that's how people crash their aircraft.
In this case, Larsen was a Lt. Colonel for the NG, and was in charge of an air wing. Safe bet he was a military pilot with a whole lot of flying hours, and flying his Apache/Aztec was probably as natural to him as driving a car is to either of us. This isn't a guy likely to make stupid decisions, and in and of itself simply flying your family to visit the folks isn't one.
I considered that and obviously that is probably the reason why he thought it was not big deal to load his family in and go. I just go back to the 'if' there is a failure or whatever the chances of survival are so bad in craft like that....I don't know that I'd put my kids in that situation.
Totally understand that it's not a fair comparison to driving....but....like I said....I just see it as there is a better chance of survival 'if' there is an accident. Maybe I'm just being sensitive to it thinking about those kids as the plane went down.....and the parents.....the sheer horror when the moment of realization hit that they were all going to die. ugh.....
And, my old boss was just a wealthy guy who owned a leather furniture and garment repair shop who did it as a hobby. There was zero chance I was climb into aboard that plane he flew. I don't recall the make/model of it as this was circa 2003 but it was a single prop plane....and those things are always on the news about crashing into some farm field or something.
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I think people are probably overestimating the danger of civilian aviation. Statistics don't really work for comparing it to driving, but it's not some dangerous hobby people get their kicks off of. Much like driving, the safety is with the driver. Shitty drivers get their kids killed all the damn time and we don't rant about it. I know a fair amount about GA accidents, and 9 times out of 10 they happen because somebody makes a bad decision. Usually one that gets them in over their head.
I worked for a guy years ago who had his license and would always ask me to go flying with him. And I always declined. He's never crashed or anything like that but I didn't want to be a headline.....
I've considered this quite a bit, and my stance is that I'll fly with somebody if he was/is a military or commercial airline pilot. If it's somebody that learned on his own I'm a hard pass. The difference is that the former guys were trained to not make decisions on their own, but to follow basic guidelines. You either have enough fuel or you don't take off. The landing conditions are either good for your aircraft or you don't try to land. Things are either working alright or you declare an emergency and get on the ground. There's no questioning your decisions. Amateurs tend to try to rationalize things and that's how people crash their aircraft.
In this case, Larsen was a Lt. Colonel for the NG, and was in charge of an air wing. Safe bet he was a military pilot with a whole lot of flying hours, and flying his Apache/Aztec was probably as natural to him as driving a car is to either of us. This isn't a guy likely to make stupid decisions, and in and of itself simply flying your family to visit the folks isn't one.
I considered that and obviously that is probably the reason why he thought it was not big deal to load his family in and go. I just go back to the 'if' there is a failure or whatever the chances of survival are so bad in craft like that....I don't know that I'd put my kids in that situation.
Totally understand that it's not a fair comparison to driving....but....like I said....I just see it as there is a better chance of survival 'if' there is an accident. Maybe I'm just being sensitive to it thinking about those kids as the plane went down.....and the parents.....the sheer horror when the moment of realization hit that they were all going to die. ugh.....
And, my old boss was just a wealthy guy who owned a leather furniture and garment repair shop who did it as a hobby. There was zero chance I was climb into aboard that plane he flew. I don't recall the make/model of it as this was circa 2003 but it was a single prop plane....and those things are always on the news about crashing into some farm field or something.
Odds of surviving a light air crash are surprisingly high. That dude's family were definitely the exception and not the rule. And considering the speeds even light aircraft operate at that's quite remarkable. His Piper had a cruise speed of 172, and won't be going slower than ~85 unless it's on the ground, yet the odds of dying after a crash are quite low. The other thing is that aircraft like that like to stay in the air. So long as you have altitude to work with your odds of being in a crash, as opposed to an ugly landing, are pretty low. Things just went bad for him very immediately after taking off, so he didn't have that altitude.
For what it's worth, either of the two most likely scenarios mean that the amount of time from the first "uh-oh" to them smashing into the forest was probably a few seconds, tops. There wasn't much terror onboard that plane, if any at all.
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Gary, I appreciate the family sentiment of what you're saying. It's your responsibility to keep them safe. I get it.
I didn't get on a plane for years and put my family through dozens of auto trips to Florida, and I often wondered if, despite my fear of flying, if I was doing the "right" thing, as we would walk into some strange rest area bathroom with the kids.
It's funny, because I used to say, WTF is the plane goes down, and my wife always had the same response, at least we'll be together...WUT? That's no consolation. :lol
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Gary, I appreciate the family sentiment of what you're saying. It's your responsibility to keep them safe. I get it.
I didn't get on a plane for years and put my family through dozens of auto trips to Florida, and I often wondered if, despite my fear of flying, if I was doing the "right" thing, as we would walk into some strange rest area bathroom with the kids.
It's funny, because I used to say, WTF is the plane goes down, and my wife always had the same response, at least we'll be together...WUT? That's no consolation. :lol
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Gary, I appreciate the family sentiment of what you're saying. It's your responsibility to keep them safe. I get it.
I didn't get on a plane for years and put my family through dozens of auto trips to Florida, and I often wondered if, despite my fear of flying, if I was doing the "right" thing, as we would walk into some strange rest area bathroom with the kids.
It's funny, because I used to say, WTF is the plane goes down, and my wife always had the same response, at least we'll be together...WUT? That's no consolation. :lol
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I NEVER TOSS OFF! NEVER! :rollin
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Gary, I appreciate the family sentiment of what you're saying. It's your responsibility to keep them safe. I get it.
I didn't get on a plane for years and put my family through dozens of auto trips to Florida, and I often wondered if, despite my fear of flying, if I was doing the "right" thing, as we would walk into some strange rest area bathroom with the kids.
It's funny, because I used to say, WTF is the plane goes down, and my wife always had the same response, at least we'll be together...WUT? That's no consolation. :lol
I NEVER TOSS OFF! NEVER! :rollin
I kid you not, I was going to post the same exact thing!
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I don't get it.
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I don't get it.
They're referring to this scene from the movie Weird Science
https://youtu.be/R-7gOI74-IQ?si=zTas6lLqtgiF3a9H&t=135
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OK. I've never seen it, which is weird because the 80's was my time.
Not sure how it relates to what I posted though.
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Tim right now.
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Not sure why I picked the TMZ article, but Russ Francis (https://www.tmz.com/2023/10/02/ex-patriots-pro-bowl-te-russ-francis-dies-in-plane-crash/).
Also, 100% agree with El Barto about the "military/commercial" pilot training. I have two friends that fly to Block Island occasionally; one is a civilian pilot, the other a Colonel who retired a General in the Air Force that flew A-10s in combat. I've only flown to BI twice despite being there 100's of times and you can guess who flew me both times.
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I'm not getting in a small civilian aircraft unless I need to. A coworker of mine offered to give me a fly out in Denver since there's a small airport he can take his plane to next to where I'd go to work, but I declined. Not just for safety, I just don't feel very comfortable being in a small aircraft in general. I don't think I'd find any joy in that.
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Yep. Unless it's life or death, I'm not getting airborne in a single-engine aircraft.
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In my case, I've spent so much time learning what causes plane crashes that I know what the risks are, and in light aircraft the number one risk by far is a cavalier attitude. With the right pilot there's just not much danger. With the right pilot even external factors (maintenance, weather) are largely mitigated. And this isn't to say that civilian pilots cannot be good and diligent, I'm sure most are, but the military and commercial airlines not only weed out the cowboys (at least after Fairchild (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash)), but they drill a certain procedural mentality into their pilots.
There's a reason I could never have been a pilot. I don't do procedure. In fact procedure tends to really piss me off. I'm always looking for the better way, and in certain professions that makes people dead before their time. The difference between a good pilot and a bad one is that the latter knows in his head all of the things to do, and the former takes the time to confirm that they've been done before even thinking about getting off the ground.
As for the congressman, my way too early, amateurish opinion is that fatigue is likely what did them in. I think he crunched some numbers wrong, partly due to having just made a somewhat long flight, and partly due to go-fever. As is so often the case, this will probably come down to bad decision making.
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How would you guys feel about getting on a boat and travelling the ocean?
Life has risks and a lot of us are willing to take those risks to enjoy Flying, Driving, Boating.
It's just really unfortunate for that congressman he ended up crashing. Same goes for Ritchie Valens, Buddy Holly, and also Kobe Bryant.
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How would you guys feel about getting on a boat and travelling the ocean?
Life has risks and a lot of us are willing to take those risks to enjoy Flying, Driving, Boating.
It's just really unfortunate for that congressman he ended up crashing. Same goes for Ritchie Valens, Buddy Holly, and also Kobe Bryant.
As with all things you weigh the risk vs the reward. I'd probably pass on the ocean tour just because I'm a landlubber and the sea holds little appeal to me. Neither does catching giant fish. If I were the sort that got off on deep sea fishing or exploring remote islands then the risk would probably be worth it. In this case, between flying the wife and kids to visit the folks vs spending an entire day and tons of dough flying commercial, the risk might be worth the reward. If they weren't all corpses now they'd probably look back quite fondly on these trips, and that actually adds quite a bit to the reward tally.
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I have no interest in going across an ocean in a boat. I dont know, but my gut tells me that's fairly safe, but sea sickness is an issue for me. Once again, I just see nothing fun about doing such a thing so I won't unless it's a necessity.
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Tim right now.
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Chet! The wanker. :lol
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How would you guys feel about getting on a boat and travelling the ocean?
No thank you.
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How would you guys feel about getting on a boat and travelling the ocean?
No thank you.
This is something I've always wanted to do. I love watching youtube videos of people traveling across the ocean in a sailboat.
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there is a gratuitously large spider just hanging suspended in the middle of my bathroom and i am a baby back bitch and don't want to deal with it but need to shower
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Aerosol can + Lighter + Good aim = Problem solved
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Aerosol can and lighter is never a good idea. :lol
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Sounds like someone doesn’t have good aim
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Aerosol can + Lighter + Good aim = Problem solved
Because the house will be burnt down??
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If I'm too much of a pussy to remove a spider, you can sure as hell bet I'm too much of a pussy to go McGiver flamethrower commando.
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It won’t burn down if you have good aim
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNhkpdaB9YM
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Rookie mistake.
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If I'm too much of a pussy to remove a spider, you can sure as hell bet I'm too much of a pussy to go McGiver flamethrower commando.
Next time we meet up, I'll tell you a hilarious spider kill story.
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I know kids are kids, especially at the teenage level, but man, the kids this year are quite a handful. I don't have as much patience now that I have 2 kids :lol
Posting here because I was pretty pissed in a general sense, they need more consequences or this is going to be a long year.
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If I'm too much of a pussy to remove a spider, you can sure as hell bet I'm too much of a pussy to go McGiver flamethrower commando.
Next time we meet up, I'll tell you a hilarious spider kill story.
Next time we meet up, Metropolaris will be with me with his firemaker. :lol
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:lol
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I know kids are kids, especially at the teenage level, but man, the kids this year are quite a handful. I don't have as much patience now that I have 2 kids :lol
Posting here because I was pretty pissed in a general sense, they need more consequences or this is going to be a long year.
Its no joke. Sadly consequences are a lost art of parenting. I have 3 boys, ages 18, 22, and 25. I'm going to be brutally honest and I apologize if anyone gets offended. The way the world is now, kids are desensitized to pretty much everything, thank you social media and lazy patenting for enabling shit behavior. I never would dream of threatening my parents with calling CPS or the cops for getting disciplined but I know it happens. There's very little respect in the world.... I'll stop before I rant too hard.
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Its no joke. Sadly consequences are a lost art of parenting. I have 3 boys, ages 18, 22, and 25. I'm going to be brutally honest and I apologize if anyone gets offended. The way the world is now, kids are desensitized to pretty much everything, thank you social media and lazy patenting for enabling shit behavior. I never would dream of threatening my parents with calling CPS or the cops for getting disciplined but I know it happens. There's very little respect in the world.... I'll stop before I rant too hard.
I think that's what I am seeing this year, much more than I usually see.
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It's the consequences thing, and the belief that the rules don't apply to me.
There's a new show; woman is kidnapped and escapes. Later on, I think she's a cop, and she kidnaps the kidnapper. WTF? And the twist is, he's going to remain in captivity and help her solve OTHER kidnapping crimes. WTF?
It's bad enough we've let slide consequences, but to CELEBRATE it? And then we wonder why cops beat people up, and men get handsy, and we get a President like Donald Trump and we get politicians like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert? This is not rocket science, folks. It's all connected.
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i think there's a difference between respect (which is earned) and cordiality (which everyone should receive by default unless there's a reason) i think it's fair to call out an increase in cases where common decency/cordiality is missing from the get-go (tho i think the prevalence of social media makes this seem like a worse problem than it is, historically) but in my opinion respect is earned, not taken. so if the problem seems to be "nobody respects each other anymore" i think we would be wise to reframe that a bit because there are many cases where "respect" is assumed to be there when it wasn't warranted/earned (yet, perhaps)
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i think there's a difference between respect (which is earned) and cordiality (which everyone should receive by default unless there's a reason) i think it's fair to call out an increase in cases where common decency/cordiality is missing from the get-go (tho i think the prevalence of social media makes this seem like a worse problem than it is, historically) but in my opinion respect is earned, not taken. so if the problem seems to be "nobody respects each other anymore" i think we would be wise to reframe that a bit because there are many cases where "respect" is assumed to be there when it wasn't warranted/earned (yet, perhaps)
I agree with this; I'm far from "respect" though. I think you nailed it by mentioning common decency. The number of instances of people approaching situations as a conflict before they even know the nature of the other side is increasing seemingly hourly.
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yeah, what i'm less certain of is whether it's always been this bad but we're getting better at recording/noticing it for sure, which has an amplifying effect on how people perceive the problem
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If I'm too much of a pussy to remove a spider, you can sure as hell bet I'm too much of a pussy to go McGiver flamethrower commando.
Next time we meet up, I'll tell you a hilarious spider kill story.
Next time we meet up, Metropolaris will be with me with his firemaker. :lol
I got you, Tim
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New Riot album? Cool!!!!
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New Riot album? Cool!!!!
:lol :lol
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There's a new show; woman is kidnapped and escapes. Later on, I think she's a cop, and she kidnaps the kidnapper. WTF? And the twist is, he's going to remain in captivity and help her solve OTHER kidnapping crimes. WTF?
What's the name of that show?
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Found (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9071808/)
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A kid get stepped on by accident today and they retaliated by picking up a chair and motioning they were going to chuck it at someone. I intervened and the kid threw it at the floor instead.
WTF
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Do you work at Waffle House?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FliJTGOQ0fQ
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Found (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9071808/)
Thanks. Sounds kind of interesting but I doubt I'd watch it.
The main character (V from Shameless) does not play a cop by the way, Stadler.
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I know kids are kids, especially at the teenage level, but man, the kids this year are quite a handful. I don't have as much patience now that I have 2 kids :lol
Posting here because I was pretty pissed in a general sense, they need more consequences or this is going to be a long year.
Start taking kids to suplex city...
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I know kids are kids, especially at the teenage level, but man, the kids this year are quite a handful. I don't have as much patience now that I have 2 kids :lol
Posting here because I was pretty pissed in a general sense, they need more consequences or this is going to be a long year.
Start taking kids to suplex city...
Through that fucking wall!
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i'm pretty upset right now
been waiting MY ENTIRE LIFE to see Steely Dan live and FINALLY had an opportunity to see them either today or tomorrow in Denver opening for The Eagles on their Long Farewell tour
well, as it turns out SD pulled out of both shows (seems like illness, hope Donald is ok!) and was replaced with.... Sheryl Crow???? https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1E005EE5D8924C8B
thankfully i didn't buy a ticket because i was waiting for the day-off prices to drop off (i live really close to ball arena in downtown denver) but boy if i dropped 100+ on eagles/steely dan and then was told it was actually eagles/sheryl crow i'd be even more upset than i already am lol
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I know kids are kids, especially at the teenage level, but man, the kids this year are quite a handful. I don't have as much patience now that I have 2 kids :lol
Posting here because I was pretty pissed in a general sense, they need more consequences or this is going to be a long year.
Start taking kids to suplex city...
Through that fucking wall!
Thanks for the laughs, guys :lol
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i'm pretty upset right now
been waiting MY ENTIRE LIFE to see Steely Dan live and FINALLY had an opportunity to see them either today or tomorrow in Denver opening for The Eagles on their Long Farewell tour
well, as it turns out SD pulled out of both shows (seems like illness, hope Donald is ok!) and was replaced with.... Sheryl Crow???? https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1E005EE5D8924C8B
thankfully i didn't buy a ticket because i was waiting for the day-off prices to drop off (i live really close to ball arena in downtown denver) but boy if i dropped 100+ on eagles/steely dan and then was told it was actually eagles/sheryl crow i'd be even more upset than i already am lol
All I wanna do is have some fun...
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i'm pretty upset right now
been waiting MY ENTIRE LIFE to see Steely Dan live and FINALLY had an opportunity to see them either today or tomorrow in Denver opening for The Eagles on their Long Farewell tour
well, as it turns out SD pulled out of both shows (seems like illness, hope Donald is ok!) and was replaced with.... Sheryl Crow???? https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1E005EE5D8924C8B
thankfully i didn't buy a ticket because i was waiting for the day-off prices to drop off (i live really close to ball arena in downtown denver) but boy if i dropped 100+ on eagles/steely dan and then was told it was actually eagles/sheryl crow i'd be even more upset than i already am lol
All I wanna do is have some fun...
that's what i'm saying but i wanted to have fun with one of my core favorite bands!!! lol. i wonder if Sheryl will cover any Steely Dan numbers to make up for it lmao
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i'm pretty upset right now
been waiting MY ENTIRE LIFE to see Steely Dan live and FINALLY had an opportunity to see them either today or tomorrow in Denver opening for The Eagles on their Long Farewell tour
well, as it turns out SD pulled out of both shows (seems like illness, hope Donald is ok!) and was replaced with.... Sheryl Crow???? https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1E005EE5D8924C8B
thankfully i didn't buy a ticket because i was waiting for the day-off prices to drop off (i live really close to ball arena in downtown denver) but boy if i dropped 100+ on eagles/steely dan and then was told it was actually eagles/sheryl crow i'd be even more upset than i already am lol
All I wanna do is have some fun...
Yeah, that wouldn't bring me anything but down.
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:lol totally agree lmao
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Yeah, it's not a "like for like" :lol sucks
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the silver lining is maybe they will do make up dates in denver on their next tour and i can see it for under 250 dollars because it won't have the eagles on the bill :lol
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i'm pretty upset right now
been waiting MY ENTIRE LIFE to see Steely Dan live and FINALLY had an opportunity to see them either today or tomorrow in Denver opening for The Eagles on their Long Farewell tour
well, as it turns out SD pulled out of both shows (seems like illness, hope Donald is ok!) and was replaced with.... Sheryl Crow???? https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1E005EE5D8924C8B
thankfully i didn't buy a ticket because i was waiting for the day-off prices to drop off (i live really close to ball arena in downtown denver) but boy if i dropped 100+ on eagles/steely dan and then was told it was actually eagles/sheryl crow i'd be even more upset than i already am lol
Absolutely devastating.
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For what it's worth, I saw Steely Dan live at my favorite venue just before.Covid hit, and it was the most boring concert I've ever been to. They were playing so quietly, you could converse with the person next to you at a normal voice level.
A week and a half later or so, I was gifted tickets to a Steely Dan cover band at the same venue. They were better in every category other than actually being Steely Dan.
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For what it's worth, I saw Steely Dan live at my favorite venue just before.Covid hit, and it was the most boring concert I've ever been to. They were playing so quietly, you could converse with the person next to you at a normal voice level.
A week and a half later or so, I was gifted tickets to a Steely Dan cover band at the same venue. They were better in every category other than actually being Steely Dan.
That's because it was Steely Dan.
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Hard disagree. They were the most pristine sound I ever heard live and the musicianship was second to none.
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Hard disagree. They were the most pristine sound I ever heard live and the musicianship was second to none.
Kings X has pristine sound and good musicianship and they still suck. :P
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You are the only one who thinks that.
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You are the only one who thinks that.
No he isn't.
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I forgot. 2 of you. Lol
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You are the only one who thinks that.
No he isn't.
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Saw Steely Dan, loved them.
Do not like King's X.
Despise Sheryl Crow.
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You are the only one who thinks that.
No he isn't.
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:lol
Love you too, Tim.
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Saw Steely Dan, loved them.
Do not like King's X.
Despise Sheryl Crow.
+1 to all of this other than having seen Steely Dan, lol
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I certainly have no love for Sheryl Crow.
But I probably also wouldn't pay Eagles ticket prices because I liked the opening band. If I didn't like the Eagles and didn't want to see them, I wouldn't get those tickets regardless of who their opener was, and I would go to the show even if they replaced the opener with Sheryl Crow.
I would probably show up late.
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I certainly have no love for Sheryl Crow.
But I probably also wouldn't pay Eagles ticket prices because I liked the opening band. If I didn't like the Eagles and didn't want to see them, I wouldn't get those tickets regardless of who their opener was, and I would go to the show even if they replaced the opener with Sheryl Crow.
I would probably show up late.
This is where I was at yesterday pre-Sheryl Crow takeover. There was no way in hell I was going to pay $250 to see an opening band (not a big Eagles guy myself) and was waiting for them to drop below $100 when the 'vid hit the Donald (presumably)
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I like Steely Dan as much as the next guy, but they're famous for being a particularly boring live band. With one exception, every time they play down here the all people can say the next day is how boring they were. The exception was when they played with Elvis Costello and he was so terrible (and I like him too) he made SD look like Queen by comparison.
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I like Steely Dan as much as the next guy, but they're famous for being a particularly boring live band. With one exception, every time they play down here the all people can say the next day is how boring they were. The exception was when they played with Elvis Costello and he was so terrible (and I like him too) he made SD look like Queen by comparison.
I would have liked to have seen that just for the spectacle!
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For the record, I wasn't shitting on Steely Dan. Aja is probably in top-10 albums of all time.
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You are the only one who thinks that.
No he isn't.
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Seems about right... you're the hot dog lovin loafer; I'm one of the GOAT's.
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You are the only one who thinks that.
No he isn't.
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Seems about right... you're the hot dog lovin loafer; I'm one of the GOAT's.
I extend my hand and you trash talk me in the handshake line. :loser:
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Not very Canadian of me, was it??
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Whats Sheryl Crow done to you guys? lol why the hate?
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Whats Sheryl Crow done to you guys? lol why the hate?
I don't hate Sheryl Crow, but I will say, my sister played her one album with All I Wanna Do all the time when she would drive me to high school that I really began to hate the album and Sheryl Crow :lol TBH, personally, if say I did have a ticket to such a show, I'd go see her set, but I don't see myself going out just to see her.
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I forgot. 2 of you. Lol
Umm.....better make it a threesome.
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I forgot. 2 of you. Lol
Umm.....better make it a threesome.
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Sad, sad day.
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Not very Canadian of me, was it??
Well, you're such an asshole, you're actually an honorary American! :lol
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I forgot. 2 of you. Lol
Umm.....better make it a threesome.
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Sad, sad day.
Being a Kings X fan would make most of my days sad too.
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Does Tim have a burner account? Lol
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What's a burner account?
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:lol
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:lol
YOU OLD BASTARD!! :lol
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I forgot. 2 of you. Lol
Umm.....better make it a threesome.
:zydarscouch:
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I forgot. 2 of you. Lol
Umm.....better make it a threesome.
:zydarscouch:
Thridar!!
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What's a burner account?
I too have no idea, but it's apparently me. :lol
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An anonymous account (typically on a social media website) used (temporarily) for activities that the user does not want to have tied to their main account.
Tim's Facebook is DTF sooo....
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I forgot. 2 of you. Lol
Umm.....better make it a threesome.
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Sad, sad day.
Make it four
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You all shame me. :lol
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Are we doing a headcount of Steeley Dan haters? Put me on the list as well. The only band I dislike more than the Dan is the Eagles!
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Getting back to what pissed me off today, I hate the phrase "I appreciate you." It typically comes after a difficult conversation where one person is combative, irritating, and won't shut up and the other person is simply trying to help.
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Huh.. I've heard I appreciate you quite a bit. Not sure if it's a black thing, but that's where and how I
m hearing it. Similar to thanks.
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I don't know whether it's black or white or otherwise, but for me, it's one of those sort of hipster statements - like so many in our hyper sensitive, insecure culture of combativeness that we live in today, at least in the States - that allows the user a passive aggressive dismissal of whatever the subject matter is while remaining seemingly "above the fray". Despite, of course, the obvious, that they ARE the fray. I'm sure it didn't start that way, and was perhaps a sincere expression, and I'm sure not EVERYONE who uses it uses it in that way, but I see too much of that sort of thing generally and I'm just not going to participate in that.
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Interesting. I've never heard it in any way other than sincerely.
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As a Brit, I would assume they were being sarcastic.
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Interesting. I've never heard it in any way other than sincerely.
Why wouldn't anyone take it any other way. I mean, who doesn't like being appreciated? Just take it at face value without imputing any hidden or alternate meaning.
Unless it is clearly used in sarcasm, which apparently is how Brits hear everything. :lol
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I don't know whether it's black or white or otherwise, but for me, it's one of those sort of hipster statements - like so many in our hyper sensitive, insecure culture of combativeness that we live in today, at least in the States - that allows the user a passive aggressive dismissal of whatever the subject matter is while remaining seemingly "above the fray". Despite, of course, the obvious, that they ARE the fray. I'm sure it didn't start that way, and was perhaps a sincere expression, and I'm sure not EVERYONE who uses it uses it in that way, but I see too much of that sort of thing generally and I'm just not going to participate in that.
This is how I experience that phrase most of the time. Not only is it passive-aggressive, but it's an instant energy suck.
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Wow, you must be around a bunch of assholes all the time.
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Wow, you must be around a bunch of assholes all the time.
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;D
In all honesty, it's as much my issue with the phrase as the people that say it.
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Interesting. I've never heard it in any way other than sincerely.
Well, I think that's the general idea behind it and how it's almost always used. I think, what was meant was, that using that phrase specifically after being a dick is how it gets rubbed the wrong way because in that scenario it does sound a bit dick to me. However, it could be just how that person says "thanks" and it wasn't meant anymore than that, but I totally can see how it's possible to be rubbed the wrong way.
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Interesting. I've never heard it in any way other than sincerely.
Why wouldn't anyone take it any other way. I mean, who doesn't like being appreciated? Just take it at face value without imputing any hidden or alternate meaning.
Unless it is clearly used in sarcasm, which apparently is how Brits hear everything. :lol
Well, don't go too far in the other direction; it's not like every time I hear it I get offended. It takes a LOT to offend me. I'm just describing my observations; it seems to me that meaning isn't all that well hidden in a lot of cases; I don't feel appreciated by that because it may or may not be intended as real appreciation. For me? I almost always ignore it in terms of my reaction. I have my moments like anyone else, because I'm human, but I'm mostly a "walk away" kind of guy. If someone wants to engage in the passive aggressiveness, I can't stop them, wouldn't dream of stopping them, but I also don't have to engage back. I'm not that confrontational, and I'm not interested in furthering the sort of systemic acrimony that is so prevalent here these days.
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I think I speak for everyone when I say:
Stads - We appreciate you.
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I appreciate the fuck out of Stads. Just less so in P/R.
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I might be Stadler's biggest fan tbh.
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I had never heard this and then recently my co-worker started saying it to me, and now it is nearly a daily occurrence. I know him well enough to know he is being genuine and serious.
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I appreciate the fuck out of Stads. Just less so in P/R.
We'll work on that. :)
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In my experience, people with pure technology backgrounds (coding, systems admin, etc..) make awful awful managers. I've dealt with and am currently dealing with two people, one is my direct manager, and the other is his boss. They are both some of the nicest and fun people to be around with. Management wise they sucked the biggest donkey balls. They are unable to grasp the concept of people skills and how to position and allocate work accordingly. It's all whimsically managed with a bunch of 'oh we've always done it this way' and 'yeah we can just turn it off or switch servers out'.
They both think they need to be involved at the macro level and still don't think 2 steps in front of them. It absolutely pisses me off that I have to dedicate enormous amounts of time explaining to them the consequences of 'we'll see how it goes' without doing any ground work prior to making big decisions. At times it's unreal and even Office Space has nothing on these guys.
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Faizoff, you're experience is much like mine at my job. I partner with a tech manager, she is brilliant but a terrible, terrible manager. We constantly miss huge deadlines because of her poor management.
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This is a common problem. Name a technical skill - programming, engineering, lawyering - none of those things make you a good manager, and yet that's the natural progression. There's this sort of preconceived negative notion about people that "can't do it" or "haven't done it" being in managerial positions. You see those posts here all the time: "My manager is an idiot; he couldn't do what I do every day". Well, duh. He doesn't have your job. Bill Belichick can't, to my knowledge, tackle, kick field goals, or throw a 40-yard slant pass, but it's unequivocal he's one of the best "managers" - we call them "coaches" in the NFL - in the history of the game.
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I'm sincerely blown away by the last page or so...
For at least the past two decades, "I appreciate you" has been my go-to phrase.
I don't necessarily say it casually, but when I need a turbo-charged 'Thank you,' I say, "thank you–appreciate you!"
Never once in my life did I not say it with the utmost sincerity, but the last few responses ("Not sure if it's a black thing"?!?!?) have me seriously questioning a life-time's worth of interactions :justjen
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Just sitting here minding my own business when suddenly my three monitor set up in the home office just decides it doesn't want to display or work anymore. Running two 24" monitors of off the company lap top and the laptop refused to acknowledge that they were connected. Spent half an hour unplugging, plugging back in....restarting....etc etc for it to act like it's never seen or doesn't know how to use the other two monitors. Then....as suddenly as it stopped working....it decides to just 'work' again as if nothing ever happened.
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Just sitting here minding my own business when suddenly my three monitor set up in the home office just decides it doesn't want to display or work anymore. Running two 24" monitors of off the company lap top and the laptop refused to acknowledge that they were connected. Spent half an hour unplugging, plugging back in....restarting....etc etc for it to act like it's never seen or doesn't know how to use the other two monitors. Then....as suddenly as it stopped working....it decides to just 'work' again as if nothing ever happened.
Dude!!! I had that exact same thing happen earlier this year. Opened a help desk ticket, and with them on the phone doing some device management shit. Still nuthin... then after like 9 times of disconnecting and reconnecting, it just started working again. Very strange as the laptop kept making the sounds of a device disconnecting and connecting, but the wouldn't display to the monitors.
Knock on wood, haven't had that problem since.
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i walked over to the wal-greens the other day to pick up my prescription and there was a sign on the door saying the pharmacy was closed but the drive-thru was still open. so i walk over to the drive-thru window and the person on the other side refused to help me because i wasn't in a car. when i explained that i didn't drive there (i don't own a car, lol) they told me they couldn't help me and that it was a safety issue that i was in the drive-thru on foot.
love to have my prescription held hostage by wal-greens because i don't have a car :lol. living in the middle of Denver, i don't really have any need for one, and only rent/drive cars on an as-needed basis. always love to be reminded that America is a society that puts car-owners in a class of their own and fuck everyone else
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I know they do that for fast food, but for prescription drugs, maybe it should be a walk/drive up counter for after hours. I'm not shocked by that though since that's fairly known for fast food drive through.
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I know they do that for fast food, but for prescription drugs, maybe it should be a walk/drive up counter for after hours. I'm not shocked by that though since that's fairly known for fast food drive through.
it wasn't after hours. it was like 1pm on Friday, haha. i think they just had the indoor counter closed due to a staff shortage or something. and i've never tried to do a drive-thru on foot before, because why would you unless it was literally as silly of a situation as i was in?
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i walked over to the wal-greens the other day to pick up my prescription and there was a sign on the door saying the pharmacy was closed but the drive-thru was still open. so i walk over to the drive-thru window and the person on the other side refused to help me because i wasn't in a car. when i explained that i didn't drive there (i don't own a car, lol) they told me they couldn't help me and that it was a safety issue that i was in the drive-thru on foot.
Wow, that's fucked up.
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yeah, not a big deal, it wasn't an emergency (have plenty at home - they called me to come get the refill, lol) just annoying and a waste of my time
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Just sitting here minding my own business when suddenly my three monitor set up in the home office just decides it doesn't want to display or work anymore. Running two 24" monitors of off the company lap top and the laptop refused to acknowledge that they were connected. Spent half an hour unplugging, plugging back in....restarting....etc etc for it to act like it's never seen or doesn't know how to use the other two monitors. Then....as suddenly as it stopped working....it decides to just 'work' again as if nothing ever happened.
Dude!!! I had that exact same thing happen earlier this year. Opened a help desk ticket, and with them on the phone doing some device management shit. Still nuthin... then after like 9 times of disconnecting and reconnecting, it just started working again. Very strange as the laptop kept making the sounds of a device disconnecting and connecting, but the wouldn't display to the monitors.
Knock on wood, haven't had that problem since.
YES!!! it kept making that sound....but was just refusing to reconnect to the monitors for whatever reason. Very annoying.
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I know they do that for fast food, but for prescription drugs, maybe it should be a walk/drive up counter for after hours. I'm not shocked by that though since that's fairly known for fast food drive through.
it wasn't after hours. it was like 1pm on Friday, haha. i think they just had the indoor counter closed due to a staff shortage or something. and i've never tried to do a drive-thru on foot before, because why would you unless it was literally as silly of a situation as i was in?
I don't it has anything to do with the time or anything else; it's if there's a line of people there and a car comes around. Yeah, I know, the driver's have to watch out for what's in front of them, yada yada, but I know I don't want to mix cars and people with any regularity.
Sidebar, I was in Dallas a couple years ago, and it was late, I may have had a beer earlier in the evening... and I was walking back to my hotel and I saw Jack In The Box open. I walked up and the girl said sorry, I can't serve you here. I kind of sighed and was about to walk away and she said "but if I could serve you, what would you have?" I told her. I'm paraphrasing the dance that ensued, but she basically said, if you have cash come back in five minutes. I did, and I did, and next thing you know, I'm walking the rest of the way home with whatever the Jack In The Box burger is called, a French fries, and a root beer.
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Pharmacies close for lunch all the time. Those stores like Walgreens staff only a certain amount of hours so they have only one pharmacist on for most of their shift.
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Pharmacies close for lunch all the time. Those stores like Walgreens staff only a certain amount of hours so they have only one pharmacist on for most of their shift.
Yeah, most likely this was the case and you could have probably waited, but it might have been an hour to wait or something. Who knows, but no shock you can't use the drive through on feet.
I just like to think that if someone is in need of medication, that maybe they'd help you out similar to Stadler's story.
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yeah, not a big deal, it wasn't an emergency (have plenty at home - they called me to come get the refill, lol) just annoying and a waste of my time
What if it was something you desperately needed? Obviously you'd go to the emergency room if things escalated but this whole situation shows that common sense is really becoming less prevalent and 'common' in society.
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Sidebar, I was in Dallas a couple years ago, and it was late, I may have had a beer earlier in the evening... and I was walking back to my hotel and I saw Jack In The Box open. I walked up and the girl said sorry, I can't serve you here. I kind of sighed and was about to walk away and she said "but if I could serve you, what would you have?" I told her. I'm paraphrasing the dance that ensued, but she basically said, if you have cash come back in five minutes. I did, and I did, and next thing you know, I'm walking the rest of the way home with whatever the Jack In The Box burger is called, a French fries, and a root beer.
I'm not 100% feeling good tonight, so maybe it's that, but why did she say she couldn't serve you there?
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Sidebar, I was in Dallas a couple years ago, and it was late, I may have had a beer earlier in the evening... and I was walking back to my hotel and I saw Jack In The Box open. I walked up and the girl said sorry, I can't serve you here. I kind of sighed and was about to walk away and she said "but if I could serve you, what would you have?" I told her. I'm paraphrasing the dance that ensued, but she basically said, if you have cash come back in five minutes. I did, and I did, and next thing you know, I'm walking the rest of the way home with whatever the Jack In The Box burger is called, a French fries, and a root beer.
I'm not 100% feeling good tonight, so maybe it's that, but why did she say she couldn't serve you there?
I was a walk up to the drive through. Policy.
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Pharmacies close for lunch all the time. Those stores like Walgreens staff only a certain amount of hours so they have only one pharmacist on for most of their shift.
Yeah, most likely this was the case and you could have probably waited, but it might have been an hour to wait or something. Who knows, but no shock you can't use the drive through on feet.
I just like to think that if someone is in need of medication, that maybe they'd help you out similar to Stadler's story.
I went back yesterday afternoon and it turned out this was definitely not the case. the drive-thru was still the only available option for me to pick up my (already filled) prescription. I am guessing bad staff shortages.
Anyway, I tried the drive-thru window again and this time the person had absolutely no problem helping me, and I got my prescription and walked home lol.
So i guess it was just that one employee the other day being especially grouchy or something?
EDIT: I guess my only issue is: if there's only 1 person and you can't have both the drive-thru and inside pharmacies open, why not just keep the one inside open and close the drive thru? obviously not everyone going to a pharmacy in the middle of a city will be showing up with a car, but everyone is capable of going inside? (even if it's a handicap issue, there is handicap parking and ramps, etc) To choose the car option over a pedestrian option, especially in the middle of a city, feels insane to me
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Logged online to check some bank accounts and what not to plan out some stuff and noticed my 17 year old sons account was sitting as $34.....but I knew he had around $900 in there so.....checked and see an $840 purchase from a music store. My thought immediately was that he'd been hacked because surely he wouldn't spend over $800 without discussing it with us....asked him and he said it was him...that he bought some drum accessories. (he is a drummer)
I'm pretty ticked about it because we've discussed being smart with purchases and the fact that he left his job last week (at my request) so he isn't working right now....this ticks me off. All he said was "it's my money....I worked for it" which is true. I'm just disappointed because this was a really dumb purchase. Good thing I never did anything dumb and impulsive when I was 17
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I guess he'll be asking for money at some point soon then if he spent all his. That could be a hard no :lol At least it was spent on drums, a healthy hobby and not hookers and blow.
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Pharmacies close for lunch all the time. Those stores like Walgreens staff only a certain amount of hours so they have only one pharmacist on for most of their shift.
Yeah, most likely this was the case and you could have probably waited, but it might have been an hour to wait or something. Who knows, but no shock you can't use the drive through on feet.
I just like to think that if someone is in need of medication, that maybe they'd help you out similar to Stadler's story.
I went back yesterday afternoon and it turned out this was definitely not the case. the drive-thru was still the only available option for me to pick up my (already filled) prescription. I am guessing bad staff shortages.
Anyway, I tried the drive-thru window again and this time the person had absolutely no problem helping me, and I got my prescription and walked home lol.
So i guess it was just that one employee the other day being especially grouchy or something?
EDIT: I guess my only issue is: if there's only 1 person and you can't have both the drive-thru and inside pharmacies open, why not just keep the one inside open and close the drive thru? obviously not everyone going to a pharmacy in the middle of a city will be showing up with a car, but everyone is capable of going inside? (even if it's a handicap issue, there is handicap parking and ramps, etc) To choose the car option over a pedestrian option, especially in the middle of a city, feels insane to me
Walgreens' pharmacy staff has been having walk-outs on a nationwide basis due to a staffing shortage and crisis. Our local Walgreens is in turmoil and people have been leaving them, transferring prescriptions to other pharmacies.
It's likely that your Walgreens pharmacy has been affected by staffing and/or walkouts.
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I guess he'll be asking for money at some point soon then if he spent all his. That could be a hard no :lol At least it was spent on drums, a healthy hobby and not hookers and blow.
Well....he has been REALLY good about putting money in his savings. No matter what his paycheck amount was/is he'd put at minimum $100 in his savings so, he's built quite the reserve. So...he technically still has money and I'm guessing that was his plan...but....I'm more upset that he didn't discuss this with us first. We've asked him to do so if he was going to make a large purchase. Anyway....you're right....he could have spent it on worse things...
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Never been a fan of Walgreens and they have never been my pharmacy. My whole life we have used Osco. I realize this is more of a regional thing, but they are always rock solid. I was actually talking to my local Osco pharmacist about this one day. I mentioned how Walgreens pharmacy people are always angry and slow on the rare times we have been forced to use them. He said it all comes down to scheduling. He says they do the bare minimum whereas I will see anywhere from 3-5 people behind an Osco pharmacy counter at any given time. He says they are overworked and need more help.
I saw a note from my employer today that there is a national Walgreens pharmacist walkout happening in a few days. Might include CVS as well. Don't use them either.
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Never been a fan of Walgreens and they have never been my pharmacy. My whole life we have used Osco. I realize this is more of a regional thing, but they are always rock solid. I was actually talking to my local Osco pharmacist about this one day. I mentioned how Walgreens pharmacy people are always angry and slow on the rare times we have been forced to use them. He said it all comes down to scheduling. He says they do the bare minimum whereas I will see anywhere from 3-5 people behind an Osco pharmacy counter at any given time. He says they are overworked and need more help.
I saw a note from my employer today that there is a national Walgreens pharmacist walkout happening in a few days. Might include CVS as well. Don't use them either.
far easier said than done depending on location :shrug
never heard of osco but there are virtually 0 options outside of walgreens/cvs here
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far easier said than done depending on location :shrug
never heard of osco but there are virtually 0 options outside of walgreens/cvs here
No offense, but in a city the size of Denver, I find that hard to believe.
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i used to use a private one called scales but CVS bought it. given my carless lifestyle i am reduced in distance pretty heavily and the only options in my neighborhood are the "bad guys" lol
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far easier said than done depending on location :shrug
never heard of osco but there are virtually 0 options outside of walgreens/cvs here
No offense, but in a city the size of Denver, I find that hard to believe.
He mentioned not having a car which would make it more difficult, but yeah, I'm with you. There's lots of online options I believe too.
I use CVS. I'm not highly medicated to be going to a pharmacist often, so I haven't had too many struggles. They are just right near my house so it's super convienent with a drive through.
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i should just do the online/shipping thing, i only have the one med and it's not an emergency/life saving med or anything so i should just set up some kind of mail it and forget it so i don't have to go battle with the understaffed pharmacies near me lol
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i should just do the online/shipping thing, i only have the one med and it's not an emergency/life saving med or anything so i should just set up some kind of mail it and forget it so i don't have to go battle with the understaffed pharmacies near me lol
Probably so. I know that I have the option through my insurance to have my prescriptions sent to me by mail. I've never bothered setting it up, because I am out and about often enough anyway, but sounds like you could make use of such an option, especially being carless.
If I were carless, I would have everything shipped to me.
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I went to the movies today and parked in a parking garage, I drive a Yaris which is a small hatchback. It barely fills a car space.
Anyway come out and low and behold a Lexus RX450h SUV os actually parked where the front grill is resting above my number plate, now the owner of the vehicle has gone over the dividing line by a lot to be parked where it is, how the hell did the person not know they had hit my car. (They even had loads of space behind their car) I can only be Thankful it was obviously at a slow speed.
Now in good news apart from the number plate having some damage, (scratches, a dent in the middle) the rest of the car was fine.
Who knows where the owner was, I wasn't about to wait around and it wasn't worth a note on the car. So yes worse things happen everyday.
This was just one of the what the hell.... and it pissed me off today. Over it now... writing is good venting time. :)
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Small dick energy
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
Or you can buy a large vehicle and be an asshole with it
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
Or you can buy a large vehicle and be an asshole with it
Oh gotcha!!
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
Or you can buy a large vehicle and be an asshole with it
Oh gotcha!!
:rollin I realized without quoting, it does look like that was my issue :biggrin:
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
Or you can buy a large vehicle and be an asshole with it
Oh gotcha!!
:rollin I realized without quoting, it does look like that was my issue :biggrin:
;D :lol
I was thinking jeez, that’s a brave post. :lol
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
FFS
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
FFS
It was a joke
FFS
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I have vertigo. :censored
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
FFS
Precisely. I mean, why else would you take it?
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
FFS
It was a joke
FFS
FFS
lol
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
FFS
It was a joke
FFS
FFS
lol
lol
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Small dick energy
You can take things for that.
FFS
It was a joke
FFS
FFS
lol
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FFS
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It's got a funky beat, but you can dance to it.
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I have vertigo. :censored
That's awful, so sorry to hear that.
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What's pissing me off today is the fact that I've managed to bypass YouTube's adblocker nonsense up til today. Now suddenly it was like "You can watch three more videos and then you're banned unless you whitelist us" and then I watched three more videos and they now are making it hard to bypass. For now I've switched from Chrome to Edge. Thus far my adblocker is working fine on there without any popups or warnings on my same YT account but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
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I guess he'll be asking for money at some point soon then if he spent all his. That could be a hard no :lol At least it was spent on drums, a healthy hobby and not hookers and blow.
Well now, that's a matter of perspective, is it not? :lol
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I have vertigo. :censored
That's awful, so sorry to hear that.
Thank you! I had it last year and was bedridden. This time once I wake up, take Meclazine and move around it starts to ease up.
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Pharmacies close for lunch all the time. Those stores like Walgreens staff only a certain amount of hours so they have only one pharmacist on for most of their shift.
Yeah, most likely this was the case and you could have probably waited, but it might have been an hour to wait or something. Who knows, but no shock you can't use the drive through on feet.
I just like to think that if someone is in need of medication, that maybe they'd help you out similar to Stadler's story.
I went back yesterday afternoon and it turned out this was definitely not the case. the drive-thru was still the only available option for me to pick up my (already filled) prescription. I am guessing bad staff shortages.
Anyway, I tried the drive-thru window again and this time the person had absolutely no problem helping me, and I got my prescription and walked home lol.
So i guess it was just that one employee the other day being especially grouchy or something?
EDIT: I guess my only issue is: if there's only 1 person and you can't have both the drive-thru and inside pharmacies open, why not just keep the one inside open and close the drive thru? obviously not everyone going to a pharmacy in the middle of a city will be showing up with a car, but everyone is capable of going inside? (even if it's a handicap issue, there is handicap parking and ramps, etc) To choose the car option over a pedestrian option, especially in the middle of a city, feels insane to me
Walgreens' pharmacy staff has been having walk-outs on a nationwide basis due to a staffing shortage and crisis. Our local Walgreens is in turmoil and people have been leaving them, transferring prescriptions to other pharmacies.
It's likely that your Walgreens pharmacy has been affected by staffing and/or walkouts.
If this was a Walgreens pharmacy, why not talk to the store manager rather than the pharmacist to get the situation resolved? Or was the entire store closed?
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What's pissing me off today is the fact that I've managed to bypass YouTube's adblocker nonsense up til today. Now suddenly it was like "You can watch three more videos and then you're banned unless you whitelist us" and then I watched three more videos and they now are making it hard to bypass. For now I've switched from Chrome to Edge. Thus far my adblocker is working fine on there without any popups or warnings on my same YT account but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
Phone or PC? I've never had any problem blocking ads on PC, but I've never been able to dodge them from my phone.
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That's how chain pharmacy's work El Barto. They run 1 pharmacist, barely hours for 2 techs. They shut down for lunch. Talk to the store manager does nothing.
I know this because my wife worked in these pharmacies for 2 decades.
Now she's in a hospital pharmacy it's so much different.
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That's how chain pharmacy's work El Barto. They run 1 pharmacist, barely hours for 2 techs. They shut down for lunch. Talk to the store manager does nothing.
I know this because my wife worked in these pharmacies for 2 decades.
Now she's in a hospital pharmacy it's so much different.
Definitely not the case down here. I've got a fair amount of experience with Walgreens, and while they might stop filling prescriptions for lunch, there will always be somebody on hand to fork it over and take your money once it's processed. I use a specialty Walgreens with at least two pharms and 5 techs, but even the retail operations will have 1 or 2 plus 3 or 4.
My only question would be whether or not the store manager had any sway over the techs. Unsure of how the power hierarchy would work there. I don't know if he could order them around, but he could at least discuss with them what's going on and try to find a solution.
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Crazy how a franchise runs differently in different regions.
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What's pissing me off today is the fact that I've managed to bypass YouTube's adblocker nonsense up til today. Now suddenly it was like "You can watch three more videos and then you're banned unless you whitelist us" and then I watched three more videos and they now are making it hard to bypass. For now I've switched from Chrome to Edge. Thus far my adblocker is working fine on there without any popups or warnings on my same YT account but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
Phone or PC? I've never had any problem blocking ads on PC, but I've never been able to dodge them from my phone.
PC. I've been seeing people say that it's been rolling out a little at a time, some people already got to this point last week while I've only gotten here now. First it was popups just saying I needed to whitelist them but I could X out of the popup and go back to my videos with no issue. Finally it got to where im' blocked from any videos until I disable the adblocker, but only in chrome.
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What's pissing me off today is the fact that I've managed to bypass YouTube's adblocker nonsense up til today. Now suddenly it was like "You can watch three more videos and then you're banned unless you whitelist us" and then I watched three more videos and they now are making it hard to bypass. For now I've switched from Chrome to Edge. Thus far my adblocker is working fine on there without any popups or warnings on my same YT account but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
This crackdown on ad blockers on YouTube has been in the works for a while. ublock and YouTube have been going to war :lol. Try using Firefox, it's not a chromium based browser (Edge is) and you might have better luck blocking the ads.
What I did was disable ublock and then reinstalled the extension and have been blocks ads since. I'm sure it's a matter of time before I have to do some fuckary.
Funny enough I probably watch YouTube more than any other streaming service and if they had a $5 monthly fee to disable ads but I'm not paying $15. I don't want any of the additional services YouTube offers.
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Yeah, I'm seeing YT getting one step ahead of the blockers. I used to get a popup from YT that I should disable it, but could close that after 5 seconds. Yesterday however, the warning was actually embedded into the video frame, and I couldn't watch it at all unless I turned off ad-blocker.
I've got the DuckDuckGo browser installed, so I went over to that one - and may have to permanently to watch videos now.
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Yeah, I'm seeing YT getting one step ahead of the blockers. I used to get a popup from YT that I should disable it, but could close that after 5 seconds. Yesterday however, the warning was actually embedded into the video frame, and I couldn't watch it at all unless I turned off ad-blocker.
I've got the DuckDuckGo browser installed, so I went over to that one - and may have to permanently to watch videos now.
On Chrome? I'm guessing that's the key. As much as I despise Mozila, I still prefer Firefox and YT has never been an issue. Between Ublock and Adblock+ i get a perfectly ad free existence with only one or two exceptions.
I actually have a very different problem with YT. Google is trying desperately to Musk Youtube. The rules for monetization are increasingly ridiculous, so you see people tripping over themselves trying to not say something that'll earn them a strike. The mere utterance of a word regardless of context will now do that, and the bots that search them out don't understand discretion. They just don't want anything that might offend anybody anywhere. It's like Roddenberry's TNG now.
Moreover, probably 2/3 of the videos that pop up now are simply clickbait garbage. The only good thing about them is that the preview pics are almost always so ridiculous they're easy enough to avoid. I spend more time watching YT than anything else, and over the last few months it's really started to suck quite a bit. If they'd simply add a means of plonking channels it'd be fine, but of course they can't do that. They can prevent channels I like from showing up in my feed, but I can't stop channels I hate from showing up everywhere. Fuck yeah, capitalism!!!
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Yeah, I'm seeing YT getting one step ahead of the blockers. I used to get a popup from YT that I should disable it, but could close that after 5 seconds. Yesterday however, the warning was actually embedded into the video frame, and I couldn't watch it at all unless I turned off ad-blocker.
I've got the DuckDuckGo browser installed, so I went over to that one - and may have to permanently to watch videos now.
On Chrome? I'm guessing that's the key. As much as I despise Mozila, I still prefer Firefox and YT has never been an issue. Between
Ublock and Adblock+ i get a perfectly ad free existence with only one or two exceptions.
Yes... on Chrome.
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What's pissing me off today is the fact that I've managed to bypass YouTube's adblocker nonsense up til today. Now suddenly it was like "You can watch three more videos and then you're banned unless you whitelist us" and then I watched three more videos and they now are making it hard to bypass. For now I've switched from Chrome to Edge. Thus far my adblocker is working fine on there without any popups or warnings on my same YT account but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
This crackdown on ad blockers on YouTube has been in the works for a while. ublock and YouTube have been going to war :lol. Try using Firefox, it's not a chromium based browser (Edge is) and you might have better luck blocking the ads.
What I did was disable ublock and then reinstalled the extension and have been blocks ads since. I'm sure it's a matter of time before I have to do some fuckary.
Funny enough I probably watch YouTube more than any other streaming service and if they had a $5 monthly fee to disable ads but I'm not paying $15. I don't want any of the additional services YouTube offers.
So I just installed UBlock Origin and went to youtube in chrome and had the YT ban/block at first, then turned off adblocker but turned the popup blocker on via UBlock (even though it wasn't showing up as a typical popup anymore at this point, but rather was part of the video itself) and refreshed the page and they're playing fine again. Lets see how long this lasts.
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What's pissing me off today is the fact that I've managed to bypass YouTube's adblocker nonsense up til today. Now suddenly it was like "You can watch three more videos and then you're banned unless you whitelist us" and then I watched three more videos and they now are making it hard to bypass. For now I've switched from Chrome to Edge. Thus far my adblocker is working fine on there without any popups or warnings on my same YT account but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
This crackdown on ad blockers on YouTube has been in the works for a while. ublock and YouTube have been going to war :lol. Try using Firefox, it's not a chromium based browser (Edge is) and you might have better luck blocking the ads.
What I did was disable ublock and then reinstalled the extension and have been blocks ads since. I'm sure it's a matter of time before I have to do some fuckary.
Funny enough I probably watch YouTube more than any other streaming service and if they had a $5 monthly fee to disable ads but I'm not paying $15. I don't want any of the additional services YouTube offers.
So I just installed UBlock Origin and went to youtube in chrome and had the YT ban/block at first, then turned off adblocker but turned the popup blocker on via UBlock (even though it wasn't showing up as a typical popup anymore at this point, but rather was part of the video itself) and refreshed the page and they're playing fine again. Lets see how long this lasts.
Are you the sort of person that lets things on your PC update whenever they damn well feel like? I suspect that it'll work up until the point that Chrome updates and bricks nerfs Origin.
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I've got a fair amount of experience with Walgreens, and while they might stop filling prescriptions for lunch, there will always be somebody on hand to fork it over and take your money once it's processed.
I use the pharmacy at my Fred Meyer, and they close the gates for their half hour lunch period. There is no dropping off, picking up, nothing for that half hour.
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I've got a fair amount of experience with Walgreens, and while they might stop filling prescriptions for lunch, there will always be somebody on hand to fork it over and take your money once it's processed.
I use the pharmacy at my Fred Meyer, and they close the gates for their half hour lunch period. There is no dropping off, picking up, nothing for that half hour.
Wow. I've honestly never seen that before. The most annoyed I've been about that sort of thing is finding out that the Tom Thumb pharmacy closes at 5 on Sundays rather than 6.
In fairness, for the last ten years the Walgreens 2 blocks up the street has FedExed my meds to me, but I've still had to go into pharmacies midday enough for various reasons and always found them manned an quite busy.
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I'm spoiled. I order my meds, and my wife picks it up since she is a certified pharmacy tech ay my pharmacy. She brings all my meds home.
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I've got a fair amount of experience with Walgreens, and while they might stop filling prescriptions for lunch, there will always be somebody on hand to fork it over and take your money once it's processed.
I use the pharmacy at my Fred Meyer, and they close the gates for their half hour lunch period. There is no dropping off, picking up, nothing for that half hour.
They do the same here too at a lot of pharmacies.
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I never knew anything about that closing for lunch thing until I saw it at my local Wal-Mart. We had to use them when our dog had diabetes and we got his insulin there. I found it so weird. Osco has never done that, ever. Never seen one that closes for lunch.
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I never knew anything about that closing for lunch thing until I saw it at my local Wal-Mart. We had to use them when our dog had diabetes and we got his insulin there. I found it so weird. Osco has never done that, ever. Never seen one that closes for lunch.
We have an OSCO in our store, and they absolutely close for lunch.
Most pharmacists unfortunately use this time to catch up on their scripts.
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I am always amazed at how pharmacists are able to decipher what doctors write. Every time I get a script from a doctor (which is not often, fortunately), it looks 10 tens worse than your average chicken scratch. I know they sometimes have to call the doctor's office to confirm what it is, but what if you go to fill the prescription on the weekend when no one at your doctor's is in the office and they cannot read the script?
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My doctors migrated to digital scripts many many years ago. Who the hell still uses pen and paper?
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My doctors migrated to digital scripts many many years ago. Who the hell still uses pen and paper?
Yea a lot of places do digital now.
Kev when I worked at walgreens our pharamacist had to call more times than not :lol
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Given how problematic it could be if a prescription was misread, I'm astonished digital scripts aren't mandatory at this point.
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Given how problematic it could be if a prescription was misread, I'm astonished digital scripts aren't mandatory at this point.
I don't disagree, but in truth I think pharmacists are smarter than that. I'm pretty sure my pharmacists know better what will or will not kill me than most of my doctors.
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And pharmacies all call the doctor's office when it's not quite clear. I know this because my wife works at a pharmacy.
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And pharmacies all call the doctor's office when it's not quite clear. I know this because my wife works at a pharmacy.
Right, but that goes back to my point of, what if you go to fill the prescription on the weekend when no one at your doctor's is in the office and they cannot read the script? And what if it is one you need right away and now have to wait a couple days because the doctor scribbled it so illegibly?
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If you need a prescription on the weekend you are probably going to a hospital our an Urgent Care facility where that doctor who prescribed the medication is on call. Plus, it's in the computer system so that place can look it up for the pharmacy.
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If you need a prescription on the weekend you are probably going to a hospital our an Urgent Care facility where that doctor who prescribed the medication is on call. Plus, it's in the computer system so that place can look it up for the pharmacy.
Ah, okay. That is good to know! :tup :tup
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So, I've finally, after 3 years, won the COVID lottery.
This shit is for the birds.
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So, I've finally, after 3 years, won the COVID lottery.
This shit is for the birds.
You're thinking of CORVID.
Get well soon mate.
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So, I've finally, after 3 years, won the COVID lottery.
This shit is for the birds.
Hope it passes quickly and that your symptoms are mild.
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So, I've finally, after 3 years, won the COVID lottery.
This shit is for the birds.
Get better soon hef! I had my third go around earlier this year and it wasn't great but wasn't as bad as the flu (thankfully)
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feel better, dad
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I'm amazed people have made it this far dodging the bullet. Somehow even with my sick ass around, my gf hasn't caught it. Get well soon.
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Thanks everyone. So far, it's not too bad. I already feel a little better.
feel better, dad
Hmmmmm...
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So, I've finally, after 3 years, won the COVID lottery.
This shit is for the birds.
That blows man! I won the same lottery in September. 3 years nothing, then I get it. Watch for post Covid crap. I haven't felt the same since, and all of a sudden I have vertigo. Could be that I'm just getting old but it sucks man. Feel better!!!
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feel better, dad
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Feel better, dude.
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feel better, dad
Thank you, son.
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Wow, Paxlovid is a hell of a drug.
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I took that as well when I got covid.
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I took that as well when I got covid.
so did mrs.jingle.
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I'm not allowed to take it. That said, has anybody here had Covid with and without Paxlovid? I'd be curious if anybody's taken it with a frame of reference?
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What's pissing me off today is the fact that I've managed to bypass YouTube's adblocker nonsense up til today. Now suddenly it was like "You can watch three more videos and then you're banned unless you whitelist us" and then I watched three more videos and they now are making it hard to bypass. For now I've switched from Chrome to Edge. Thus far my adblocker is working fine on there without any popups or warnings on my same YT account but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
This crackdown on ad blockers on YouTube has been in the works for a while. ublock and YouTube have been going to war :lol. Try using Firefox, it's not a chromium based browser (Edge is) and you might have better luck blocking the ads.
What I did was disable ublock and then reinstalled the extension and have been blocks ads since. I'm sure it's a matter of time before I have to do some fuckary.
Funny enough I probably watch YouTube more than any other streaming service and if they had a $5 monthly fee to disable ads but I'm not paying $15. I don't want any of the additional services YouTube offers.
So I just installed UBlock Origin and went to youtube in chrome and had the YT ban/block at first, then turned off adblocker but turned the popup blocker on via UBlock (even though it wasn't showing up as a typical popup anymore at this point, but rather was part of the video itself) and refreshed the page and they're playing fine again. Lets see how long this lasts.
Are you the sort of person that lets things on your PC update whenever they damn well feel like? I suspect that it'll work up until the point that Chrome updates and bricks nerfs Origin.
Well the FF experiment failed. YT is now cracked the code to prevent ad supported videos in FF unless the blocker is removed. I guess it's either ads, or watching in the DDG player - which sucks ass.
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uBlock Origin is still working for me, in both Firefox and Chrome. I've had to go into the settings for it, purge the filter list cache then update a couple of times when it stopped working, but so far that has fixed it each time.
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uBlock Origin is still working for me, in both Firefox and Chrome. I've had to go into the settings for it, purge the filter list cache then update a couple of times when it stopped working, but so far that has fixed it each time.
I just tried that ... no dice. I wonder if it hasn't expanded to Australia yet, or if there are certain digital laws you guys have that prevent YT from being able to activate this.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/youtube-is-now-cracking-down-on-ad-blockers-globally/
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U Block Origin is still not letting ads through on my browser - Chrome: Version 118.0.5993.118
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My brother paid good money for an authentic hockey net for my nephew. they leave it in their yard but close to the street because it's heavy. Someone took it late at night. Seems that they got an idea it wasn't free to take from Facebook and then they left a note with their #. It's free it there's a damn sign on it saying so. Otherwise, don't come in when people are asleep to take something that's not yours.
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wtf, is that their real number and not some bs? Like if you are going to steal it, fucking steal it. Who does it in the middle of night without permission as if its a kind gesture to take it off your lawn?
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My brother is steaming right now. I haven't seen him this mad in a long time.
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wtf, is that their real number and not some bs? Like if you are going to steal it, fucking steal it. Who does it in the middle of night without permission as if its a kind gesture to take it off your lawn?
I'm not trying to absolve them, just offering an angle..
I have curbside pickup through my city. Anything I need to dispose of, I can leave at the curb. Couch, bedframe, old grill, busted fridge, ceiling fans, whatever... I just call the city, tell them what I have, and they give me the date that the truck will be by. One week will be for wood stuff, the next for metal, etc.. The trucks start their rounds at 4AM, so they folks on the phone tell you to leave it out the night before.
The standard procedure is to leave your stuff by the road/at the curb in the evening, and the city will have it picked up before you wake up. Any time I've left out anything metal, scrappers in pickups get to it before the city does. They know what night is the night before a metal day, and they snatch up as much as they can before daylight.
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It doesn't sound like it was on the street though, otherwise I'd probably agree since I know for my area as well, if you leave stuff on the street curb, it's basically free to take.
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They don't have that in his town. And do that late at night is a sneaky way of doing things.
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I'm not allowed to take it. That said, has anybody here had Covid with and without Paxlovid? I'd be curious if anybody's taken it with a frame of reference?
I have had covid twice. The first time I was asymptomatic and was given Paxlovid. I hated it. The horrible taste it put in my mouth and it made me feel off.
The second time I got covid I decided to pass on Paxlovid. I wanted to die I felt so bad. Not sure it the drug would have helped, but who knows.
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It is a nasty aftertaste taking that pill.
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If it's COVID, it's Paxlovid. ;)
I didn't take it; I didn't even go to the doctor when I had it. I laid on the couch for a week. But I'm not sure I would; I hate that commercial with a passion. "If it's COVID, it's paxlovid"; WTF; I hate that idea that you can tell the doctor what should be prescribed for you. Worst thing ever when doctors now had to answer and defend themselves to patients for ads they (the patient) saw on TV.
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If it's COVID, it's Paxlovid. ;)
I didn't take it; I didn't even go to the doctor when I had it. I laid on the couch for a week. But I'm not sure I would; I hate that commercial with a passion. "If it's COVID, it's paxlovid"; WTF; I hate that idea that you can tell the doctor what should be prescribed for you. Worst thing ever when doctors now had to answer and defend themselves to patients for ads they (the patient) saw on TV.
For the record, my doctor prescribed it to me. I didn't have to ask for it, and probably wouldn't have if the doctor didn't recommend it.
I'm through my cycle of it now. Glad those side effects are gone. My colon may never recover.
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If it's COVID, it's Paxlovid. ;)
I didn't take it; I didn't even go to the doctor when I had it. I laid on the couch for a week. But I'm not sure I would; I hate that commercial with a passion. "If it's COVID, it's paxlovid"; WTF; I hate that idea that you can tell the doctor what should be prescribed for you. Worst thing ever when doctors now had to answer and defend themselves to patients for ads they (the patient) saw on TV.
I'm kind of with you on paxlovid. It's not much different, to me, than anti-biotics. I'm not too interested in taking medicine that my body is naturally going to fight on its own. Granted, if my symptoms are that bad, it's a different story. I see very little reason to take Paxlovid if/when I get covid again unless my symptons feel unmanageable.
Covid was pretty bad for me two years ago, but last year's flu was even worse for me. I didn't take prescription meds either time. Just spent a week on the coach with soup and tea.
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uBlock Origin is still working for me, in both Firefox and Chrome. I've had to go into the settings for it, purge the filter list cache then update a couple of times when it stopped working, but so far that has fixed it each time.
I just tried that ... no dice. I wonder if it hasn't expanded to Australia yet, or if there are certain digital laws you guys have that prevent YT from being able to activate this.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/youtube-is-now-cracking-down-on-ad-blockers-globally/
Here's a pretty in depth explanation of what's going on with Google and adblockers.
https://www.wired.com/story/youtubes-ad-blocker-crackdown-spurs-record-uninstalls/
Part of it is that they're keeping it rather low key for the time being. It almost seems like random chance if thye come down on you. For that reason the people who make adblockers are having a hard go of it because they rarely get blocked to investigate it. :lol
I've seen no such popup, myself. I use as old a version of Firefox as I can and I don't let plugins update themselves. That might keep me behind the fray for a while (until my bank forces me to upgrade).
And if it does become too problematic I'll just look for a different avenue of entertainment. I'm not paying $14/mo for Youtube under any circumstances. Monetization has already made even the free version fairly unattractive to me. The ads which I see on my phone are way too obtrusive. At least TV shows account for where breaks should go. YT videos just randomly stop to tell me about shit I don't want. For my part YT will be the odd man out when they get to me.
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At least TV shows account for where breaks should go. YT videos just randomly stop to tell me about shit I don't want.
I actually think it's generated using some sort of algorithm to detect when people are most interested, and boom ad. It likely shows up as "random" on a lot of videos, but I noticed on some of my own videos, the ads pop up at the moment you want to watch the most.
Either way, I've been watching youtube with ads for so long that it mostly doesn't bother me besides when they are too often in a video. A 10 minute video doesn't need multiple ads, just one.
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I just tried that ... no dice. I wonder if it hasn't expanded to Australia yet, or if there are certain digital laws you guys have that prevent YT from being able to activate this.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/youtube-is-now-cracking-down-on-ad-blockers-globally/
No, those are the same things I was getting. Although, it could be that Google doesn't roll out new versions of their workaround globally at the same time.
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I actually think it's generated using some sort of algorithm to detect when people are most interested, and boom ad.
I'll definitely be looking out for this.I haven't noticed it before, but if it's there I sure will now.
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I actually think it's generated using some sort of algorithm to detect when people are most interested, and boom ad.
I'll definitely be looking out for this.I haven't noticed it before, but if it's there I sure will now.
I *think* for a lot of videos, that point is not so clear and the algorithm does what it does so it doesn't seem that way, but I've had so many instances where it's perfect timing for an ad to piss the hell out of me that I have to believe it's intentional, and it's certainly not manual.
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uBlock Origin is still working for me, in both Firefox and Chrome. I've had to go into the settings for it, purge the filter list cache then update a couple of times when it stopped working, but so far that has fixed it each time.
I just tried that ... no dice. I wonder if it hasn't expanded to Australia yet, or if there are certain digital laws you guys have that prevent YT from being able to activate this.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/youtube-is-now-cracking-down-on-ad-blockers-globally/
Here's a pretty in depth explanation of what's going on with Google and adblockers.
https://www.wired.com/story/youtubes-ad-blocker-crackdown-spurs-record-uninstalls/
Part of it is that they're keeping it rather low key for the time being. It almost seems like random chance if thye come down on you. For that reason the people who make adblockers are having a hard go of it because they rarely get blocked to investigate it. :lol
I've seen no such popup, myself. I use as old a version of Firefox as I can and I don't let plugins update themselves. That might keep me behind the fray for a while (until my bank forces me to upgrade).
And if it does become too problematic I'll just look for a different avenue of entertainment. I'm not paying $14/mo for Youtube under any circumstances. Monetization has already made even the free version fairly unattractive to me. The ads which I see on my phone are way too obtrusive. At least TV shows account for where breaks should go. YT videos just randomly stop to tell me about shit I don't want. For my part YT will be the odd man out when they get to me.
Proof that it's completely random, YT is NOT blocking videos in FF. Nothing different - I haven't restarted, or closed my browser, or cleared cache, or updated extensions... nothin. Just hit refresh, and now I can watch.
Fuck Google.
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uBlock Origin is still working for me, in both Firefox and Chrome. I've had to go into the settings for it, purge the filter list cache then update a couple of times when it stopped working, but so far that has fixed it each time.
I just tried that ... no dice. I wonder if it hasn't expanded to Australia yet, or if there are certain digital laws you guys have that prevent YT from being able to activate this.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/youtube-is-now-cracking-down-on-ad-blockers-globally/
Here's a pretty in depth explanation of what's going on with Google and adblockers.
https://www.wired.com/story/youtubes-ad-blocker-crackdown-spurs-record-uninstalls/
Part of it is that they're keeping it rather low key for the time being. It almost seems like random chance if thye come down on you. For that reason the people who make adblockers are having a hard go of it because they rarely get blocked to investigate it. :lol
I've seen no such popup, myself. I use as old a version of Firefox as I can and I don't let plugins update themselves. That might keep me behind the fray for a while (until my bank forces me to upgrade).
And if it does become too problematic I'll just look for a different avenue of entertainment. I'm not paying $14/mo for Youtube under any circumstances. Monetization has already made even the free version fairly unattractive to me. The ads which I see on my phone are way too obtrusive. At least TV shows account for where breaks should go. YT videos just randomly stop to tell me about shit I don't want. For my part YT will be the odd man out when they get to me.
Proof that it's completely random, YT is NOT blocking videos in FF. Nothing different - I haven't restarted, or closed my browser, or cleared cache, or updated extensions... nothin. Just hit refresh, and now I can watch.
Fuck Google.
If it is simply a random thing, you can expect that hit rate to increase incrementally over time.
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Having to repeat the simplest solution to someone multiple times over the past 3 months is grating on me today. If you would literally do what I've told you, your issues would go away.
Also, when the solution for another problem is "just scroll down"... like I can't today. I CAN NOT
People's incompetence and the inability to even try is driving me insane.
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Having to repeat the simplest solution to someone multiple times over the past 3 months is grating on me today. If you would literally do what I've told you, your issues would go away.
Yeah, maybe write it down so I don't have to explain it to you again? I hear you on that, happens so often at work.
My coworker and I often joke about how clueless people seem to be on the road. Yesterday we went to Target to grab some water for our office we share and on the way walking out, a guy pushing a cart with his wife and child behind him, who were blocking the doorway out finally moved after we tried to pass them. Then the guy literally walks into the wrong door and just stops, for which we then once again try to move around the idiot and are then stopped again by him cutting in front of us. After we got to my car, we both looked at each other and were like "that is the person we rip on during our commutes" Amazes me how some people roam this earth completely clueless.
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Adding on top of it my boss's boss is like "spoon feed people". Is this literally where we are now? We no longer expect people to do anything on their own? We literally have to spoon feed them shit they can find on their own???!??
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Having to repeat the simplest solution to someone multiple times over the past 3 months is grating on me today. If you would literally do what I've told you, your issues would go away.
Why do I suddenly feel like my wife has a DTF account? :lol
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Honestly, sounds like something my wife would also say lol
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You guys listen to your wives? My wife will say "you're not even listening to me" and I just think that that's a weird way to start a conversation.
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I gotta be honest guys, this says a lot about you and nothing good.... so take that how you will I guess.
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:rollin
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....discovering that the components missing on the CT system that delivered to be installed are in fact not stocked in the US....but in Germany where the system was built. >:( Nice little 10-14 day lead time with the chance that customs can just hold it at the border for as long as they see fit.
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I am experiencing what is known as a COVID rebound. I went through my cycle of Paxlovid, and was feeling pretty good, and then took a nosedive.
This fucking shit is for the birds.
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I am experiencing what is known as a COVID rebound. I went through my cycle of Paxlovid, and was feeling pretty good, and then took a nosedive.
This fucking shit is for the birds.
Sorry to hear that, man. I hope you feel better soon.
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Thanks, brother.
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Ah that sucks, heard a lot about that rebound. Hopefully it passes quickly
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We'll see. So far, I feel better today than yesterday.
I should buy some stock in fucking Kleenex, I know that.
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We'll see. So far, I feel better today than yesterday.
I should buy some stock in fucking Kleenex, I know that.
The lotion kind, I'd hope.
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We'll see. So far, I feel better today than yesterday.
I should buy some stock in fucking Kleenex, I know that.
The lotion kind, I'd hope.
I like the ones with the Vicks.
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We'll see. So far, I feel better today than yesterday.
I should buy some stock in fucking Kleenex, I know that.
The lotion kind, I'd hope.
Nah, it's the sandpaper variety.
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That would destroy my nostrils.
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Whenever someone orders a large amount of pizza for a work thing, throughout my entire 20 year career at several different companies, they get about 3/4 "grown-up" pizzas with veggies on them like supreme or some type of combo and 1/4 simpler crowd pleaser pizzas like pepperoni, cheese, or sausage. Inevitably all of the simple pizzas are gone and the entirety of the leftovers are the ones laden with olives and onions. Now, I'm not opposed to some veggies on my pizza at times (except onions), but I just find this practice annoying. It's the same people that do it every time too. We now have like 8 leftover pizzas in the fridge with olives and onions while every last slice of the crowd pleasers are gone. The ratio needs to be reversed.
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Whenever someone orders a large amount of pizza for a work thing, throughout my entire 20 year career at several different companies, they get about 3/4 "grown-up" pizzas with veggies on them like supreme or some type of combo and 1/4 simpler crowd pleaser pizzas like pepperoni, cheese, or sausage. Inevitably all of the simple pizzas are gone and the entirety of the leftovers are the ones laden with olives and onions. Now, I'm not opposed to some veggies on my pizza at times (except onions), but I just find this practice annoying. It's the same people that do it every time too. We now have like 8 leftover pizzas in the fridge with olives and onions while every last slice of the crowd pleasers are gone. The ratio needs to be reversed.
I'm with you (but flip the "onions" and the "olives").
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Not sure Ive had that happen to me with such ratios, usually it's the opposite and still, the olives and odd pizzas remain :lol I understand I have a hatred for olives on pizza more than average, but I don't understand the point in ordering such a pizza for events at all. Just stick to the basics IMO.
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Whenever someone orders a large amount of pizza for a work thing, throughout my entire 20 year career at several different companies, they get about 3/4 "grown-up" pizzas with veggies on them like supreme or some type of combo and 1/4 simpler crowd pleaser pizzas like pepperoni, cheese, or sausage. Inevitably all of the simple pizzas are gone and the entirety of the leftovers are the ones laden with olives and onions. Now, I'm not opposed to some veggies on my pizza at times (except onions), but I just find this practice annoying. It's the same people that do it every time too. We now have like 8 leftover pizzas in the fridge with olives and onions while every last slice of the crowd pleasers are gone. The ratio needs to be reversed.
Just olives and onions, or "among other things" olives and opinions? If it's the adult combo pizzas I need to come work at your place. I'd give one or two of those fridge pies a good home.
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I like veggies on my pizza. Olives are the only one I'm not fond of.
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Onions ruin pizza for me. The flavor takes over everything. I don't care for olives, but they're easy enough to pick off. The onion essence remains even after they're picked off.
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This
Are we talking black or green olives?
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An olive is an olive. Let's not discriminate based on color. All olives are nasty.
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An olive is an olive. Let's not discriminate based on color. All olives are nasty.
Amen brother
And....I'm in the camp of pizzas shouldn't be littered with veggies. There's a reason the 'simple' topping pizzas disappear first in those instances....it's because that's the way it should be. Two....three toppings at most of which 99% of them should be meat topping combos and move on.
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An olive is an olive. Let's not discriminate based on color. All olives are nasty.
Amen brother
And....I'm in the camp of pizzas shouldn't be littered with veggies. There's a reason the 'simple' topping pizzas disappear first in those instances....it's because that's the way it should be. Two....three toppings at most of which 99% of them should be meat topping combos and move on.
I say a veggie option should be available, but not specific like just olives. Maybe a full veggie pie, some meat pies, and some cheese pies is legit. Some sort of ratio like 2/5 cheese 2/5 meats 1/5 veggie. Personally, I do like veggie pies, however it's not usually going to be my choice, but not having that option for people seems unfair. It just needs to be more in line with what people actually eat and I won't believe it unless I see a proven stat that more than 1/5 people would choose a veggie pie over cheese or meat.
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My principal will buy us all pizzas (and enough to last 3 days) and only gets cheese and pepperoni. It's the best way. Yeah, I like a lot of other toppings, but pleasing everyone is hard in that regard.
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An olive is an olive. Let's not discriminate based on color. All olives are nasty.
Amen brother
And....I'm in the camp of pizzas shouldn't be littered with veggies. There's a reason the 'simple' topping pizzas disappear first in those instances....it's because that's the way it should be. Two....three toppings at most of which 99% of them should be meat topping combos and move on.
I say a veggie option should be available, but not specific like just olives. Maybe a full veggie pie, some meat pies, and some cheese pies is legit. Some sort of ratio like 2/5 cheese 2/5 meats 1/5 veggie. Personally, I do like veggie pies, however it's not usually going to be my choice, but not having that option for people seems unfair. It just needs to be more in line with what people actually eat and I won't believe it unless I see a proven stat that more than 1/5 people would choose a veggie pie over cheese or meat.
ESPECIALLY at work. Last thing I need is to dump a veggie bomb pie down the front of my shirt while I'm at work. I already have a reputation for getting spots on my shirt; I don't need to temp fate! :)
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Cheese and pepperoni is all any lunchroom needs. Seriously.
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Cheese and pepperoni is all any lunchroom needs. Seriously.
if that's all that's being served there'd better be a bathroom too!
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Man, a one topping pizza is just pointless. You need to have a combination of flavours in there. I grew up with "supreme" pizzas, so I appreciate the melange (and yes, that includes olives and onions along with a couple of meats). If I'm just ordering to have pizza around the home (which is surprisingly infrequent) I'll go with a small Pep/onion/jalapeno, and a Sau/onion/shroom. I also enjoy experimenting with whatever combinations a place might specialize in, which might be pretty oddball.
And I like mozzarella as much as the next guy, but cheese isn't a topping. It's an important part of the base of a pizza, but it shouldn't be the primary thing.
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Sausage and mushroom is another good default topping to try and please everyone.
Bell peppers upset my stomach when cut up like what goes on a pizza. Olives overpower pizza, they can stay on Greek foods. Onion is pretty good but shouldn't be alone. I've honestly never had Jalapeno on pizza, I can tolerate that sort of pepper so I might have to try that in the future.
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Cheese and pepperoni is all any lunchroom needs. Seriously.
This.
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Man, a one topping pizza is just pointless. You need to have a combination of flavours in there. I grew up with "supreme" pizzas, so I appreciate the melange (and yes, that includes olives and onions along with a couple of meats). If I'm just ordering to have pizza around the home (which is surprisingly infrequent) I'll go with a small Pep/onion/jalapeno, and a Sau/onion/shroom. I also enjoy experimenting with whatever combinations a place might specialize in, which might be pretty oddball.
And I like mozzarella as much as the next guy, but cheese isn't a topping. It's an important part of the base of a pizza, but it shouldn't be the primary thing.
I'll be over at 5:30, and I'll bring a Sixpack. That's my idea of a pie. Only think better is sausage, spinach and garlic.
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Sausage and mushroom is another good default topping to try and please everyone.
Bell peppers upset my stomach when cut up like what goes on a pizza. Olives overpower pizza, they can stay on Greek foods. Onion is pretty good but shouldn't be alone. I've honestly never had Jalapeno on pizza, I can tolerate that sort of pepper so I might have to try that in the future.
You can eat jalapeno but not bell peppers? WTF is that?
In any case, I treat them both interchangeably on pizza depending on my mood. Sometimes I want the heat and sometimes I don't. Also depends on where the pizza is coming from. Down here the Mexicans always find the hottest jalapenos.
Nobody wants nothing but onion on a pie, but it's a critical component of any sort of combination, IMO. Top of the pizza vegetable hierarchy, as far as I'm concerned. Hence going with the pepperoni/pepper and sausage/shroom pies.
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Man, a one topping pizza is just pointless. You need to have a combination of flavours in there. I grew up with "supreme" pizzas, so I appreciate the melange (and yes, that includes olives and onions along with a couple of meats). If I'm just ordering to have pizza around the home (which is surprisingly infrequent) I'll go with a small Pep/onion/jalapeno, and a Sau/onion/shroom. I also enjoy experimenting with whatever combinations a place might specialize in, which might be pretty oddball.
And I like mozzarella as much as the next guy, but cheese isn't a topping. It's an important part of the base of a pizza, but it shouldn't be the primary thing.
I'll be over at 5:30, and I'll bring a Sixpack. That's my idea of a pie. Only think better is sausage, spinach and garlic.
Yeah, that's probably my leading favourite. Depends on the sausage, of course, but done well it's really hard to beat. A few places down here will offer crumbled up (or sliced) meatball, and that might be even better.
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I love meatball and mushroom pizza.
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Sausage and mushroom is another good default topping to try and please everyone.
Bell peppers upset my stomach when cut up like what goes on a pizza. Olives overpower pizza, they can stay on Greek foods. Onion is pretty good but shouldn't be alone. I've honestly never had Jalapeno on pizza, I can tolerate that sort of pepper so I might have to try that in the future.
You can eat jalapeno but not bell peppers? WTF is that?
I was curious why this happens as I was reading this comment, so bell peppers are considered sweet peppers and jalapenos are hot peppers. Something online said the skins might be a cause of stomach pain from the bell peppers. All I know is, if I want to sweat my ass off and feel like a knife is being driven into my intestines, I'll find a good green bell pepper to eat or put on pizza. It sucks.
Also, I am curious what a pizza with only onions would actually taste like. :lol
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Also, I am curious what a pizza with only onions would actually taste like. :lol
Shit, most likely.
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The fuck? You pleabians. Onions rule. I stand like a terminator on you onion skulls.
You are a all pussies. Onions rule on pizza. Your vaginas are sensitive.
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The fuck? You pleabians. Onions rule. I stand like a terminator on you onion skulls.
You are a all pussies. Onions rule on pizza. Your vaginas are sensitive.
Yeah, sensitive to onions. :lol
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Onions are disgusting on anything except my mom's potato salad, which sadly I will never have again, so that means I will never have to be subjected to onions anywhere ever again.
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No. Give me onions in my sex scenes you pussies.
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No. Give me onions in my sex scenes you pussies.
You like the stank don't you?
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Your stank is worse than onions. My wife loves onions so you must repel her. Lol.
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I will give onions this: at least they aren't as gross as peanut butter. Peanut butter is literally the worst thing ever.
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Your stank is worse than onions. My wife loves onions so you must repel her. Lol.
If I can repel my own wife, I sure as hell can repel yours. :lol
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I will give onions this: at least they aren't as gross as peanut butter. Peanut butter is literally the worst thing ever.
(https://media.tenor.com/ubboSatrrVEAAAAM/what-did-i-just-read-read.gif)
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Kev I agree saw agree with Wolfking .
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(https://i.imgur.com/F17Sa7W.jpg)
Delicious.
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And I like mozzarella as much as the next guy, but cheese isn't a topping. It's an important part of the base of a pizza, but it shouldn't be the primary thing.
Any politician who runs on a platform of mandating that a product consisting of only crust, sauce, and cheese cannot legally be marketing and sold as "pizza" gets my vote.
Whenever someone orders a large amount of pizza for a work thing, throughout my entire 20 year career at several different companies, they get about 3/4 "grown-up" pizzas with veggies on them like supreme or some type of combo and 1/4 simpler crowd pleaser pizzas like pepperoni, cheese, or sausage. Inevitably all of the simple pizzas are gone and the entirety of the leftovers are the ones laden with olives and onions. Now, I'm not opposed to some veggies on my pizza at times (except onions), but I just find this practice annoying. It's the same people that do it every time too. We now have like 8 leftover pizzas in the fridge with olives and onions while every last slice of the crowd pleasers are gone. The ratio needs to be reversed.
I had the opposite problem - or what you would consider the proper solution - at my last major job (my dept was probably 90% women). They would order a majority of cheese or Margherita pizzas, and one with actual meat toppings that the few guys in the dept had to fight over.
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Kev I agree saw agree with Wolfking .
I'm spending far too much time on figuring out what this actually means.
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Kev I agree saw agree with Wolfking .
I'm spending far too much time on figuring out what this actually means.
Me too Kade. Me too. :lol
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I will give onions this: at least they aren't as gross as peanut butter. Peanut butter is literally the worst thing ever.
Onions are delicious, I could bite into one like an apple.
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Kev I agree saw agree with Wolfking .
I'm spending far too much time on figuring out what this actually means.
I let it go. It felt like piling on. ;D
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Also, I am curious what a pizza with only onions would actually taste like. :lol
Shit, most likely.
No. I agree with Bart that it's the cornerstone of a combo, but I will ABSOLUTELY eat a pie with just onions. I pretty much will eat onions on anything. Call me Cebula! :)
I was going to say I was with Joe all the way, until you all went and made it weird! :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I like all the normal pizza toppings, and pretty much in any combination.
Curious that pineapple hasn't been mentioned yet.
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I like all the normal pizza toppings, and pretty much in any combination.
Curious that pineapple hasn't been mentioned yet.
See, I like ham and pineapple. Pizzastop up at Uconn used to run specials: ham and pineapple or sausage and jalapeños. You could get a large pie delivered for like $5.00. All day long. There's been this fad lately of bagging on pineapple on a pie and I think it's marketing nonsense. One jackass on Twitter said it and everyone else has to run with it like lemmings. Fine! I'll eat it!! More pizza for me!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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All this onion talk makes me want to cry.
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I like all the normal pizza toppings, and pretty much in any combination.
Curious that pineapple hasn't been mentioned yet.
See, I like ham and pineapple. Pizzastop up at Uconn used to run specials: ham and pineapple or sausage and jalapeños. You could get a large pie delivered for like $5.00. All day long. There's been this fad lately of bagging on pineapple on a pie and I think it's marketing nonsense. One jackass on Twitter said it and everyone else has to run with it like lemmings. Fine! I'll eat it!! More pizza for me!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
I'm with you, I love pineapple and ham.
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I worked at quite a few pizza places back in the day ....and I had this combo of toppings that I loved and called it the 'Backhand, forehand, top shelf' after the first goal Gretzky scored as a Blue's player. Anyway...the ingredients are:
On Thin "St. Louis Stlye" Crust
Sausage, Pepperoni, Ham, Bacon, Pepperoncini's, Jalapeno's....then a layer of granulated garlic, crushed red peppers and pepper sprinkled on it prior to going into the oven. Mix of Mozzarella and provolone cheese. Sucker was nice and spicy.
I agree with EB that single topping pizzas are boring and a waste but in a setting where you're feeding dozens of people it's the safest way to go.
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I hate how everywhere tries to claim their style of pizza. I've seen virtually identical thin crust pizza being "claimed" by several different cities, including Minneapolis, which I am near. Unless you're New York, or Chicago, in the US you don't get to claim a pizza style, IMO.
I agree with EB that single topping pizzas are boring and a waste but in a setting where you're feeding dozens of people it's the safest way to go.
I enjoy pepperoni pizza, but tend to agree 2-3 toppings is ideal. Much more than that and it all gets lost.
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Former pizza guy here. The most disgusting topping combination I remember someone ordering was ranch, banana peppers, and onions.
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I do like my BBQ sauce Kansas City style.
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I hate how everywhere tries to claim their style of pizza. I've seen virtually identical thin crust pizza being "claimed" by several different cities, including Minneapolis, which I am near. Unless you're New York, or Chicago, in the US you don't get to claim a pizza style, IMO.
I mostly agree, except Chicago actually has two different style of pizzas. And Detroit style pizza does seem to be a separate thing. Otherwise they're all just very slight variations on a theme. Cutting one in squares doesn't make it a different pizza.
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The funny thing about "St Louis"-style pizza is that everyone I know who is not from St Louis hates it. I guess you had to have been born here to enjoy it. :lol
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The funny thing about "St Louis"-style pizza is that everyone I know who is not from St Louis hates it. I guess you had to have been born here to enjoy it. :lol
I said in another thread that everybody's favourite pizza is the one they grew up with. In the end it's almost all the same with the occasional weird regional idiosyncrasies. But, if you live in a place that serves ultra thin and crunchy square cut pizza, then that's what you'll probably prefer. People like me who come from a pretty typical NY/Neopolitan pizza town would find it inferior to what we like.
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The funny thing about "St Louis"-style pizza is that everyone I know who is not from St Louis hates it. I guess you had to have been born here to enjoy it. :lol
There’s only a couple places I like it at and IMO’s is not one of them.
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I hate how everywhere tries to claim their style of pizza. I've seen virtually identical thin crust pizza being "claimed" by several different cities, including Minneapolis, which I am near. Unless you're New York, or Chicago, in the US you don't get to claim a pizza style, IMO.
New Haven. New Haven pizza is a thing (though someone from outside the northeast could no more distinguish it from New York pizza than you could Miller Lite and Bud Lite.
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I will give onions this: at least they aren't as gross as peanut butter. Peanut butter is literally the worst thing ever.
I am just quoting this to remind everyone of the absurdity of this comment. :)
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On Thin "St. Louis Stlye" Crust
I hate how everywhere tries to claim their style of pizza. I've seen virtually identical thin crust pizza being "claimed" by several different cities, including Minneapolis, which I am near. Unless you're New York, or Chicago, in the US you don't get to claim a pizza style, IMO.
New Haven. New Haven pizza is a thing (though someone from outside the northeast could no more distinguish it from New York pizza than you could Miller Lite and Bud Lite.
A thing, maybe, but not necessarily a good thing. Burning the crust is the only absolutely surefire way to fuck up a pizza.
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Unless you're New York, or Chicago, in the US you don't get to claim a pizza style, IMO.
I think Windsor (https://www.foodnetwork.ca/article/windsor-pizza-history/) has a legitimate beef with this statement.
There’s julienne-cut shredded pepperoni, which creates better distribution across the pie than traditional circular pepperoni
The next essential topping is canned mushrooms. Fresh mushrooms typically shrivel and dry up in a high temperature pizza oven, compromising their texture and flavour
The cheese for Windsor pizza is a high-fat mozzarella
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I've never heard of St. Lous style pizza.
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Neapolitan style (pretty high and soft, flying back to the kitchen if burnt) for me, with mozzarella, baked ham, artichokes, black olives, spicy oil. Not a trace of tomato sauce on it.
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Me on the west coast being all "all our pizza just sucks"..
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Not pissed, but irritated w concert ticket prices. I've wanted to see this Pantera iteration/tribute since it was announced. Tickets for the recent leg w Lamb of God just went on sale and I'm planning a road trip to the NYC show. Just added a couple tickets to my cart - I'll call them decent seats, not the best in the house, just a decent seat at MSG - for a total of $360. I'm really not sure I want to see Pantera/Lamb of God to the tune of ~ $500 (tickets + travel). I know this is all more a 'me' problem than anything else, but jeez that's a hefty price to get in the door - and it's not just this show, every show I've had interest in lately has been way more pricey than expected. Even the worst seats in the house are just way higher than I expected.
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Not pissed, but irritated w concert ticket prices. I've wanted to see this Pantera iteration/tribute since it was announced. Tickets for the recent leg w Lamb of God just went on sale and I'm planning a road trip to the NYC show. Just added a couple tickets to my cart - I'll call them decent seats, not the best in the house, just a decent seat at MSG - for a total of $360. I'm really not sure I want to see Pantera/Lamb of God to the tune of ~ $500 (tickets + travel). I know this is all more a 'me' problem than anything else, but jeez that's a hefty price to get in the door - and it's not just this show, every show I've had interest in lately has been way more pricey than expected. Even the worst seats in the house are just way higher than I expected.
My friends and I want to go to that show too, just looked at the prices after reading this... damn, that's excessive even for the last row.
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Looks like get-ins are $102 all in. That does seem excessive, but not necessarily for NYC.
How long have those tickets been on sale? There are a ton of seats available. There are still non-platinum floor seats available. Looks like the pricing has scared off quite a few people. I'd assume that to be a surefire sellout, but it certainly hasn't started well for that. If they can't sell it out then it's going to be a real buyer's market once the date gets closer.
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Looks like get-ins are $102 all in. That does seem excessive, but not necessarily for NYC.
How long have those tickets been on sale? There are a ton of seats available. There are still non-platinum floor seats available. Looks like the pricing has scared off quite a few people. I'd assume that to be a surefire sellout, but it certainly hasn't started well for that. If they can't sell it out then it's going to be a real buyer's market once the date gets closer.
Today was public sale, but I had no expectations of a sell out personally (I guess unless the tickets were stupid cheap). I know it's always a big draw to play the Garden but Pantera is not big enough to sell it out, nor is the combo with Lamb of God. The good thing, I expect deals to be had.
Also, I've seen quite a few bigger bands at the Garden for under $100, so while I generally agree that all in for $100 is generally fair for MSG/NYC, it seems excessive for these bands.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
That sucks. Hope you get better soon.
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Looks like get-ins are $102 all in. That does seem excessive, but not necessarily for NYC.
How long have those tickets been on sale? There are a ton of seats available. There are still non-platinum floor seats available. Looks like the pricing has scared off quite a few people. I'd assume that to be a surefire sellout, but it certainly hasn't started well for that. If they can't sell it out then it's going to be a real buyer's market once the date gets closer.
Today was public sale, but I had no expectations of a sell out personally (I guess unless the tickets were stupid cheap). I know it's always a big draw to play the Garden but Pantera is not big enough to sell it out, nor is the combo with Lamb of God. The good thing, I expect deals to be had.
Also, I've seen quite a few bigger bands at the Garden for under $100, so while I generally agree that all in for $100 is generally fair for MSG/NYC, it seems excessive for these bands.
I will probably hold off and see what I can get as the show gets closer, as well.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
That sucks. Hope you get better soon.
Seconded - hope you're better soon
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
That sucks. Hope you get better soon.
Seconded - hope you're better soon
Thirded.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
That sucks. Hope you get better soon.
Seconded - hope you're better soon
Thirded.
Fifthed.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
Shit dude... that honks. I've had a brutal head cold for the past week, but 2.5 weeks of COVID tops that.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
Just awful. Lost mine for more than week when I had it in August.
Got the newest Moderna vax this morning. Shoulder is starting to really hurt.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
WTF, that is fucking crazy dude.
I'm sure there's not much of a comparison anymore because of how fast it has mutated and how varied symptoms/responses are to it, but the first (of three) times I have had COVID (in May 2020, pre vaccines) I lost my sense of smell and taste for about 10 months. If you've had it before or have been vaccinated I'm sure that won't be your case, but I can empathize. It sucked hard :(
EDIT: 2nd/3rd bouts of COVID (both post vaccination + prior infection obviously) I never lost either sense.
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I came down with covid when we came home from the cruise (not shocked lol). Only down for a week. However, hubby has been down and out for like 2 weeks now and kept testing negative. Got tested at the doctors office and its the flu. Crazy that we both got the covid and flu boosters before the cruise and then each of us gets a different virus.
Hope anyone feeling poorly gets better soon.
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I came down with covid when we came home from the cruise (not shocked lol). Only down for a week. However, hubby has been down and out for like 2 weeks now and kept testing negative. Got tested at the doctors office and its the flu. Crazy that we both got the covid and flu boosters before the cruise and then each of us gets a different virus.
Hope anyone feeling poorly gets better soon.
Charming. mrs.jingle and I are planning a Trans-Atlantic Disney Cruise for our 25th anniversary (anniv is April; cruise is 13 days in May). Cruises are already floating petrie dishes.
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Charming. mrs.jingle and I are planning a Trans-Atlantic Disney Cruise for our 25th anniversary (anniv is April; cruise is 13 days in May). Cruises are already floating petrie dishes.
Add on to it the airports, airplane, rideshare/taxi's, hotels... yeah just plan for being sick after your trip. Hopefully nothing during!
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
WTF, that is fucking crazy dude.
I'm sure there's not much of a comparison anymore because of how fast it has mutated and how varied symptoms/responses are to it, but the first (of three) times I have had COVID (in May 2020, pre vaccines) I lost my sense of smell and taste for about 10 months. If you've had it before or have been vaccinated I'm sure that won't be your case, but I can empathize. It sucked hard :(
EDIT: 2nd/3rd bouts of COVID (both post vaccination + prior infection obviously) I never lost either sense.
This is my first time.
I got a negative result this morning, so that's good. However, per my wife, I am still in lockdown until a second negative in 48 hours.
My Mom tried to tell me about the CDC guidelines and how they aren't as stringent as what I've been living under, and I had to tell her, "Mom, that's fine, but I'm not married to the CDC."
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:lol :lol
I've been sleeping in jingle.son's bed for the last week (he's away at school) because of a viscious head cold.
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:lol :lol
I've been sleeping in jingle.son's bed for the last week (he's away at school) because of a viscious head cold.
Yep yep yep
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
I had covid in September and had the same symptoms. I'm not sure if its an age thing or just how fucked covid is but the healing was so gradual it seemed like forever. Now I've had vertigo for a month! >:( :censored
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
I had covid in September and had the same symptoms. I'm not sure if its an age thing or just how fucked covid is but the healing was so gradual it seemed like forever. Now I've had vertigo for a month! >:( :censored
That sucks!
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
I had covid in September and had the same symptoms. I'm not sure if its an age thing or just how fucked covid is but the healing was so gradual it seemed like forever. Now I've had vertigo for a month! >:( :censored
Fuckin hell, I'd NEVER heard of anyone personally with a case of Vertigo, and since COVID, you're now the 4th or 5th person I've heard of that had it. I wonder if it's a long term COVID consequence, or vaccine? Or just completely coincidental
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
I had covid in September and had the same symptoms. I'm not sure if its an age thing or just how fucked covid is but the healing was so gradual it seemed like forever. Now I've had vertigo for a month! >:( :censored
Fuckin hell, I'd NEVER heard of anyone personally with a case of Vertigo, and since COVID, you're now the 4th or 5th person I've heard of that had it. I wonder if it's a long term COVID consequence, or vaccine? Or just completely coincidental
My gf recently had a small bout of Vertigo as the two of us had been dealing with an on/off cold. Even I felt like I might had had it because of my ears popping and the pressurization in my head was all off for a couple days.
Definitely sucks to be sick during the holidays though as I had the flu last year that caused me to stay home for Thanksgiving and cancel my plans to see my family in Florida. My boss got covid this week. It's been on my mind between the cold (which is gone now) and past years illness during the holidays that I keep thinking this years will be cancelled too.
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I thought I had a vertigo the last few days, as my symptoms were similar to my brother's (he gets it on occasion), but I think it was just an inner ear infection. I had that feeling like I was going to get sick with a cold, but never did, and I felt for a good 36 hours like I was on the verge of getting dizzy, but also never did. And I didn't have a headache, but felt slightly off center. It seems to have cleared up, but was a strange feeling.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
I had covid in September and had the same symptoms. I'm not sure if its an age thing or just how fucked covid is but the healing was so gradual it seemed like forever. Now I've had vertigo for a month! >:( :censored
Fuckin hell, I'd NEVER heard of anyone personally with a case of Vertigo, and since COVID, you're now the 4th or 5th person I've heard of that had it. I wonder if it's a long term COVID consequence, or vaccine? Or just completely coincidental
I had vertigo last year that crippled me for s few days and then was gone. I had covid end of September for about 2 weeks. Now this vertigo is less intense but lingering like a condition and meclizine doesn't help it. I was vaxxed in 2021, the 2 part Moderna and that's it. Also had shingles last year, that was off the charts miserable. Who knows why.
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I am pissed about still having COVID. I first tested positive on Halloween, and Thanksgiving is next week FFS.
Also, I have been without the senses of taste or smell for over a week now.
I had covid in September and had the same symptoms. I'm not sure if its an age thing or just how fucked covid is but the healing was so gradual it seemed like forever. Now I've had vertigo for a month! >:( :censored
Fuckin hell, I'd NEVER heard of anyone personally with a case of Vertigo, and since COVID, you're now the 4th or 5th person I've heard of that had it. I wonder if it's a long term COVID consequence, or vaccine? Or just completely coincidental
Man it's wild you say this because when I had COVID in September (not my first time having COVID) I had vertigo. Even when all my other covid symptoms disappeared and I'm testing negative I still have vertigo come up. I had my physical and talked to my doctor in October and everything was fine in my bloodwork. She (my doc) told me that I'm not the first person to complain about getting vertigo from covid.
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Guys, stop talking about vertigo. I'm afraid I will be the next to catch it.
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Dad, I've been sick as all fuck for the last week. Not Covid, just a bad virus wrecking me. I missed 3 days of work last week.
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Dad, I've been sick as all fuck for the last week. Not Covid, just a bad virus wrecking me. I missed 3 days of work last week.
I hate to hear that, son. Hang in there.
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Dad, I've been sick as all fuck for the last week. Not Covid, just a bad virus wrecking me. I missed 3 days of work last week.
I missed 1, but I work from home. If I was in a career where I had to be somewhere or around people, I'd probably have called in sick all week. I'm still fairly congested in the head/sinuses.
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Dad, I've been sick as all fuck for the last week. Not Covid, just a bad virus wrecking me. I missed 3 days of work last week.
I missed 1, but I work from home. If I was in a career where I had to be somewhere or around people, I'd probably have called in sick all week. I'm still fairly congested in the head/sinuses.
I wanted to, but I felt okay enough last Tuesday/Wednesday, which happened to be the most important days for me to be there (did my first eval and had an important lunch for a student to attend). I think today is the day I am finally feeling some semblance of being okay.
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My mother-in-law. But that's everyday. >:( :censored
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Here to bitch and moan about ticket prices again. A7X at Mohegan Sun (CT) presale, lowest price ticket in nosebleeds $140/each. I really hate to say I'm just priced out of shows these days. I'll have to travel to NH (lowest price is approx half CT) to see this show I guess.
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Here to bitch and moan about ticket prices again. A7X at Mohegan Sun (CT) presale, lowest price ticket in nosebleeds $140/each. I really hate to say I'm just priced out of shows these days I guess. I'll have to travel to NH (lowest price is approx half CT) to see this show I guess.
They're doing something weird there. The $140 are platinum tickets. Non-platinums are still a whopping $123 (including TTL), but that seems to apply to both balconies. I'm seeing lowers for that same $123, and once they un-platinum everything there should be some decent seats.
That said, I've never seen anybody slap a platinum sticker on nosebleeds like that. It really is strange.
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Nose bleeds are $40 plus fees in NJ. Granted, those seats suck. Going to be 110 + fees for a somewhat decent seat. I feel like I paid $90 for the MSG show in the last row of the venue, but that show had better support.
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Nose bleeds are $40 plus fees in NJ. Granted, those seats suck. Going to be 110 + fees for a somewhat decent seat. I feel like I paid $90 for the MSG show in the last row of the venue, but that show had better support.
That's exactly why I can't pull the trigger for seats in CT. Thinking about the NH or NJ show instead.
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Nose bleeds are $40 plus fees in NJ. Granted, those seats suck. Going to be 110 + fees for a somewhat decent seat. I feel like I paid $90 for the MSG show in the last row of the venue, but that show had better support.
That's exactly why I can't pull the trigger for seats in CT. Thinking about the NH or NJ show instead.
You'll have to let me know if you come down to NJ. Planning on going with my college roommate and my gf as of now. But there's at least one other DTFer that was toying with the idea of going to the NJ show too.
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Nose bleeds are $40 plus fees in NJ. Granted, those seats suck. Going to be 110 + fees for a somewhat decent seat. I feel like I paid $90 for the MSG show in the last row of the venue, but that show had better support.
That's exactly why I can't pull the trigger for seats in CT. Thinking about the NH or NJ show instead.
You'll have to let me know if you come down to NJ. Planning on going with my college roommate and my gf as of now. But there's at least one other DTFer that was toying with the idea of going to the NJ show too.
Definitely will - I'm leaning toward NJ, NH in late winter/early spring can be a pain
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Here to bitch and moan about ticket prices again. A7X at Mohegan Sun (CT) presale, lowest price ticket in nosebleeds $140/each. I really hate to say I'm just priced out of shows these days I guess. I'll have to travel to NH (lowest price is approx half CT) to see this show I guess.
They're doing something weird there. The $140 are platinum tickets. Non-platinums are still a whopping $123 (including TTL), but that seems to apply to both balconies. I'm seeing lowers for that same $123, and once they un-platinum everything there should be some decent seats.
That said, I've never seen anybody slap a platinum sticker on nosebleeds like that. It really is strange.
Part of that may be Mohegan. It is the local casino, and even though a friend of mine is CEO of the tribe, I've never been able to get a straight answer about the ticketing down there. I rarely go there for shows - only if I have to - and even when I have, it's been a challenge (and NOT CHEAP) to see a show there.
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That's a small arena from looking on livenation. That could also be a reason for pricing. To Compare, the NJ to the CT one, there's 7k more capacity in NJ. Granted, I think those google results may not be accurate for concerts, but you get the idea.
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Here to bitch and moan about ticket prices again. A7X at Mohegan Sun (CT) presale, lowest price ticket in nosebleeds $140/each. I really hate to say I'm just priced out of shows these days I guess. I'll have to travel to NH (lowest price is approx half CT) to see this show I guess.
They're doing something weird there. The $140 are platinum tickets. Non-platinums are still a whopping $123 (including TTL), but that seems to apply to both balconies. I'm seeing lowers for that same $123, and once they un-platinum everything there should be some decent seats.
That said, I've never seen anybody slap a platinum sticker on nosebleeds like that. It really is strange.
Part of that may be Mohegan. It is the local casino, and even though a friend of mine is CEO of the tribe, I've never been able to get a straight answer about the ticketing down there. I rarely go there for shows - only if I have to - and even when I have, it's been a challenge (and NOT CHEAP) to see a show there.
I'm sure a significant portion of it can be attributed to being Mohegan Sun. On top of having a smaller capacity cram pointed out, they absolutely reserve a % of available tickets to comp their loyal gamblers. What that % is, I have no way of proving - but I know people who gamble a lot and they get comped tix to massive names (Bruce Springsteen, Kenny Chesney, etc). So it absolutely happens regardless of how well those tickets will actually sell. I've purposely avoided shows here for this reason, they artificially increase the cost of tickets because of the comps.
This tour has given me a great reason to take a road trip and sort of parlay the show into a night/weekend away. So I guess in the end, it made me happy yesterday.
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Here to bitch and moan about ticket prices again. A7X at Mohegan Sun (CT) presale, lowest price ticket in nosebleeds $140/each. I really hate to say I'm just priced out of shows these days I guess. I'll have to travel to NH (lowest price is approx half CT) to see this show I guess.
They're doing something weird there. The $140 are platinum tickets. Non-platinums are still a whopping $123 (including TTL), but that seems to apply to both balconies. I'm seeing lowers for that same $123, and once they un-platinum everything there should be some decent seats.
That said, I've never seen anybody slap a platinum sticker on nosebleeds like that. It really is strange.
Part of that may be Mohegan. It is the local casino, and even though a friend of mine is CEO of the tribe, I've never been able to get a straight answer about the ticketing down there. I rarely go there for shows - only if I have to - and even when I have, it's been a challenge (and NOT CHEAP) to see a show there.
I'm sure a significant portion of it can be attributed to being Mohegan Sun. On top of having a smaller capacity cram pointed out, they absolutely reserve a % of available tickets to comp their loyal gamblers. What that % is, I have no way of proving - but I know people who gamble a lot and they get comped tix to massive names (Bruce Springsteen, Kenny Chesney, etc). So it absolutely happens regardless of how well those tickets will actually sell. I've purposely avoided shows here for this reason, they artificially increase the cost of tickets because of the comps.
This tour has given me a great reason to take a road trip and sort of parlay the show into a night/weekend away. So I guess in the end, it made me happy yesterday.
Tribe members get tickets too; or at least they used to.
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The postal service! Tracking a package.... Yesterday "out for delivery", last night " available for pick up", today "item scanned in Jersey city" which is hours away. How does this even happen? I called local PO, they said it was a substitute driver mistake. Now its circling back around. :censored
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So last night we have our usual handful of couples and their kids over for New Years.....and I once again begrudgingly went along with it all. I'm just 'over' the whole get together for New Years thing....would rather just not do anything cuz I'm well into the 'get off my lawn' stage of being older and would just prefer to not do any of the song and dance. Anyway, the first couple that we know really well showed up around 7:15ish along with their son (16) and a buddy (16). We start talking to the couple and the two kiddos saunter off to wait for my two older sons to get home from work. Which they did around 7:30.
Fast Forward....it's the end of the night....everyone's gone and we're cleaning up and my wife and middle son come to me and say we need to tell you something but wanted to wait until everyone was gone. The proceed to tell me this:
When the first two kids arrived they thought it'd be a funny 'prank' on my middle son to rearrange all the stuff in his room. They started doing that, moving this and that around and at one point this one kid thought he would pick up the double stacked vinly record shelf filled with records that was on my sons dresser....but when he did....the entire thing broke and fell apart and his records fell out everywhere. Then, he and the other kid just haphazardly flung/tossed them onto his bed and left it at that.
My middle son REALLY got into vinyls about two or three years ago. His music tastes are so broad and so diverse....it's really something for a 16 year old. So, he collects, gets gifted...seeks out all these albums and it's a major point of pride for him. One of which is this original print of a Beatles album (I'll have to check which one it is) that my Dad gave to him a while back. That jacket, along with about twenty others was ripped, a bunch were knicked up and torn.....he's found a few records already with chips in it and apparently.....I didn't know this.....even when the records are in the sleeves and protected they can be rubbed or hit the wrong way and the grooves can be damaged.
So, they tell me this at like 12:45am and I freaking get heated >:( I asked my wife to contact his parents to let them know what was going on and she was hesitant saying we could do it tomorrow. I wanted them and the kid to know immediately so I texted them and gave them a run down of the situation....and ended it with my expectation is that every damaged record will be replaced. They agreed and just asked to be told what is damaged.
The issue is now outside of the obvious physical damage to the jackets and some of the records.....he now has to listen to 40-50 of these vinyls to see if there is any skipping or scratching. Gonna take a bit.
Anyway....I am still ticked off because my son was extremely upset....he's put a lot of time and effort AND $$$ into that collection and it was just abused and not respected. It's a very, very, VERY good thing my wife knew not to make me aware of that while everyone was here because I would have not held back on my opinion and feelings about what transpired.
It's just another reason why I just don't like having large groups of people over. I'm good with a couple or two....or in the summer when everyone can hang on our patio....but, I'm just past the house full of folks. Maybe I'm an old party pooper but I'm just not a fan of it anymore.
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That is complete bullshit and would've pissed me off immensely. You should sit down with your son, catalog all the stuff broken/damaged and go on discogs and get the value of everything that needs to replaced and send them the bill.
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That is complete bullshit and would've pissed me off immensely. You should sit down with your son, catalog all the stuff broken/damaged and go on discogs and get the value of everything that needs to replaced and send them the bill.
Yeah, That's kind of the plan we came up with. He spent a lot of last night just physically inspecting them all and taking pictures. I'll let him know about the discogs site you mentioned in case he doesn't know about it. I wish I knew his collection better so I could rattle off some of them because I'm sure you guys would be floored that a 16 year old is in to a lot of this....but....as a Dad seeing your son so upset....my blood was boiling. I'm still pretty irate and I've had a night to sleep over it.
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That is the best place to get the value of your music collection, it can get really granular with the releases too.
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That is the best place to get the value of your music collection, it can get really granular with the releases too.
Cool....thanks. :tup Will definitely share that with him.
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I'd be pretty fucking irate too - the unfortunate thing is this is teenagers being teenagers (think back to all the dumb-ass shit we did at 16!). At least they owned up to it to your wife, and the parents are taking accountability for it. Imagine if the parents were like 'how do we know they weren't damaged already?' kinda shit.
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I'd be pretty fucking irate too - the unfortunate thing is this is teenagers being teenagers (think back to all the dumb-ass shit we did at 16!). At least they owned up to it to your wife, and the parents are taking accountability for it. Imagine if the parents were like 'how do we know they weren't damaged already?' kinda shit.
Totally get the bolded point. My only push back on it is that all of my middle sons close friends.....and this kid is one of them......know how important and how much effort he's put into that collection. The kid that did this isn't one of these aloof dumbasses either....he's a pretty straight up kid so....despite it being a 'teenage' thing....he really should have known better than to mess with these vinyl's.
He and his parents immediately agreed he F'd up and to replace what's damaged. They're close friends....it was just an awkward conversation now that it's going to involve probably hundreds of dollars.
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Gary, that shit pisses me off just reading it.
We've had tons of cookouts and we also do Christmas Eve, which has generally brought out kids with their parents, and our sons' rooms are OFF LIMITS.
That's because one year a set of siblings on my wife's family who are FUCKING ANIMALS (they were quite young at the time, but NO supervision) fucked around in my oldest's (he has special needs) room, fucked with his legos and shit, and that was that.
Well, you now have a perfect excuse to not host NYE next year.
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That sucks.
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That's horrible, but as others stated, it sounds a lot like kids being kids and doing stupid things. I dont know why they would do that, but I dont know why I did stupid things either as a kid and it seems the intent wasn't to break the vinyl. Still, its terrible. Hopefully the parents are legit in wanting to fix this and dont become dodgy if you have a bill for them.
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Sorry, I respect everyone's opinion, but I can't subscribe to kids doing kids stuff. 16 years old is certainly an age for silly dicking around, but it also is or should be old enough to come forward and face responsibilities at once, not at evening's end and by proxy, especially knowing the sentimental side of the damage you've provoked. That's little shits doing little shits stuff.
All my sympathies to you and your son, Gary. At 16 my vinyls were my best friends and I can imagine how pissed he must feel.
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We've had tons of cookouts and we also do Christmas Eve, which has generally brought out kids with their parents, and our sons' rooms are OFF LIMITS.
We never had big gatherings when I was growing up, but any time there was company over, the doors to my parents bedroom and dad's office were closed. My wife has a thing about closed doors, but any time there are kids here, I keep the door to our bedroom closed; there's no reason any guest needs to be in there for any reason.
I would be steamed if this happened in my house. Aside from the vinyl, which I am not minimizing, those kids broke furniture, which you really have to try and do. That doesn't just happen. I could see my wife immediately trying to resolve the situation to keep me from escalating it to the level of confrontation.
Just the other day my wife said "we never have company over any more." I gave a grunt to acknowledge I heard her, as I am with Gary in never feeling like I need or want company over.
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That's horrible, but as others stated, it sounds a lot like kids being kids and doing stupid things. I dont know why they would do that, but I dont know why I did stupid things either as a kid and it seems the intent wasn't to break the vinyl. Still, its terrible. Hopefully the parents are legit in wanting to fix this and dont become dodgy if you have a bill for them.
Yeah Marc....like I was saying to Chad as he had the same sentiment....I totally get that teenagers do dumb stuff. I, like everyone else....have a long list of just idiotic crap I did back in the day. But as I was saying....every single one of my sons friends know what his vinyl collection means to him and the effort he puts into it. The kid who did this has a hobby with his dad where they collect old VHS and beta tapes, so he's familiar with how fragile and precious these things can be. It was a poor choice for sure....but one that a 16 year old can and should identify in the moment that they shouldn't be F'n with.
and our sons' rooms are OFF LIMITS.
I wish I had paid better attention to where those two sauntered off to when they arrived. I had the basement all set up (ping pong, movies, Playstation) for the kids to hang out and I just assumed they went down there. I just didn't think they or anyone would go into any of my kids rooms without them there, especially given the doors were all shut.
Well, you now have a perfect excuse to not host NYE next year.
You're spot on with that. That'll be the end of the hosting NYE at our house....too bad it came at the expense of my sons collection.
Hopefully the parents are legit in wanting to fix this and dont become dodgy if you have a bill for them.
We're pretty close with them, I can't imagine that they're going to go back on their word but we will see when the cost hits them all. As I said, this isn't going to be "hey you owe us $40" The majority of his collection carries a pretty significant dollar value....it's going to be a couple hundred bucks I'm sure.
All my sympathies to you and your son, Gary. At 16 my vinyls were my best friends and I can imagine how pissed he must feel.
Appreciate it. We were taking down all the Christmas decor today and he was just really somber and even came out and said at one point "I'm really sad". Then he said something I didn't even consider....he said "even if Jordin replaces all of these it's still not going to be the same. It won't feel the same." He said "the fun part of it all was finding them, buying them on my own and that experience" and he thinks the replacements just won't carry the same "value" Pretty deep from him and honestly something I didn't even consider until he said it....which just perpetuated my utter anger for the whole ordeal.
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So last night we have our usual handful of couples and their kids over for New Years.....and I once again begrudgingly went along with it all. I'm just 'over' the whole get together for New Years thing....would rather just not do anything cuz I'm well into the 'get off my lawn' stage of being older and would just prefer to not do any of the song and dance. Anyway, the first couple that we know really well showed up around 7:15ish along with their son (16) and a buddy (16). We start talking to the couple and the two kiddos saunter off to wait for my two older sons to get home from work. Which they did around 7:30.
Fast Forward....it's the end of the night....everyone's gone and we're cleaning up and my wife and middle son come to me and say we need to tell you something but wanted to wait until everyone was gone. The proceed to tell me this:
When the first two kids arrived they thought it'd be a funny 'prank' on my middle son to rearrange all the stuff in his room. They started doing that, moving this and that around and at one point this one kid thought he would pick up the double stacked vinly record shelf filled with records that was on my sons dresser....but when he did....the entire thing broke and fell apart and his records fell out everywhere. Then, he and the other kid just haphazardly flung/tossed them onto his bed and left it at that.
My middle son REALLY got into vinyls about two or three years ago. His music tastes are so broad and so diverse....it's really something for a 16 year old. So, he collects, gets gifted...seeks out all these albums and it's a major point of pride for him. One of which is this original print of a Beatles album (I'll have to check which one it is) that my Dad gave to him a while back. That jacket, along with about twenty others was ripped, a bunch were knicked up and torn.....he's found a few records already with chips in it and apparently.....I didn't know this.....even when the records are in the sleeves and protected they can be rubbed or hit the wrong way and the grooves can be damaged.
So, they tell me this at like 12:45am and I freaking get heated >:( I asked my wife to contact his parents to let them know what was going on and she was hesitant saying we could do it tomorrow. I wanted them and the kid to know immediately so I texted them and gave them a run down of the situation....and ended it with my expectation is that every damaged record will be replaced. They agreed and just asked to be told what is damaged.
The issue is now outside of the obvious physical damage to the jackets and some of the records.....he now has to listen to 40-50 of these vinyls to see if there is any skipping or scratching. Gonna take a bit.
Anyway....I am still ticked off because my son was extremely upset....he's put a lot of time and effort AND $$$ into that collection and it was just abused and not respected. It's a very, very, VERY good thing my wife knew not to make me aware of that while everyone was here because I would have not held back on my opinion and feelings about what transpired.
It's just another reason why I just don't like having large groups of people over. I'm good with a couple or two....or in the summer when everyone can hang on our patio....but, I'm just past the house full of folks. Maybe I'm an old party pooper but I'm just not a fan of it anymore.
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This was making my blood boil just reading it. I feel really bad for your son, who has taken a lot of time and care and money collecting something that he is passionate about. Hopefully his passion for music and music collecting isn't hindered by this bad experience.
I understand how he feels too. I've spent the majority of my life collecting thousands of CD's, vinyl records (a lot of them collectors editions and old originals), cassettes, and other music related stuff. If someone had damaged my collection trying to pull some kind of prank, that person would no longer be welcome in my home......Maybe that's too harsh, but maybe I'm also getting to the 'get off my lawn' stage of life too!
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Sounds like you raised a great kid, I'm sorry he is sad about that. I have an extensive Magic: the Gathering collection, including some "priceless" cards that were gifts or have cool stories behind them. If my stuff got partially wiped and I had to replace, there would be a void there as well.
Sorry, I respect everyone's opinion, but I can't subscribe to kids doing kids stuff. 16 years old is certainly an age for silly dicking around, but it also is or should be old enough to come forward and face responsibilities at once, not at evening's end and by proxy, especially knowing the sentimental side of the damage you've provoked. That's little shits doing little shits stuff.
I agree. I work with 13- and 14-year-olds every year, and by that age they know that this situation is beyond kids being kids, this is indeed shitty behavior. Being young leads to some bad decisions, even at 16, but they are still old enough to know.
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All my sympathies to you and your son, Gary. At 16 my vinyls were my best friends and I can imagine how pissed he must feel.
Appreciate it. We were taking down all the Christmas decor today and he was just really somber and even came out and said at one point "I'm really sad". Then he said something I didn't even consider....he said "even if Jordin replaces all of these it's still not going to be the same. It won't feel the same." He said "the fun part of it all was finding them, buying them on my own and that experience" and he thinks the replacements just won't carry the same "value" Pretty deep from him and honestly something I didn't even consider until he said it....which just perpetuated my utter anger for the whole ordeal.
Yeah, this hits hard. The pure joy of searching for and finding a rare/classic/collectible record or something like that can't really be replicated by someone just giving/replacing those things. Each piece has a story behind it, of how it was acquired, the effort involved in finding it.
The good news is, he will have the opportunity to continue his passion for collecting this stuff. This may be a minor setback, but he shouldn't let it stop him from continuing.
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Sorry, I respect everyone's opinion, but I can't subscribe to kids doing kids stuff. 16 years old is certainly an age for silly dicking around, but it also is or should be old enough to come forward and face responsibilities at once, not at evening's end and by proxy, especially knowing the sentimental side of the damage you've provoked. That's little shits doing little shits stuff.
The way Gary told the story, they did come forward, it was just middle son and Gary's wife that "withheld" the info from Gary until the end of the night.
@ Gary... that last part. Damn! He's right too. I can understand how a good part of the joy and pleasure of any collection is the experience, not just the items themselves.
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Sorry, I respect everyone's opinion, but I can't subscribe to kids doing kids stuff. 16 years old is certainly an age for silly dicking around, but it also is or should be old enough to come forward and face responsibilities at once, not at evening's end and by proxy, especially knowing the sentimental side of the damage you've provoked. That's little shits doing little shits stuff.
The way Gary told the story, they did come forward, it was just middle son and Gary's wife that "withheld" the info from Gary until the end of the night.
@ Gary... that last part. Damn! He's right too. I can understand how a good part of the joy and pleasure of any collection is the experience, not just the items themselves.
Yeah....my wife and son had a hunch at how I'd take it so they agreed to wait until everyone was gone to tell me. Which, I'm glad they did. I would have made things very uncomfortable for everyone here had I found out in real time.
My middle son was noticeably absent all night and I just figured he was hanging out with the dozen other kids that were here downstairs or outside. It wasn't until this all came to light that I learned he basically just staying in his room all night...probably in shock....but away from all the activities.
The good news is, he will have the opportunity to continue his passion for collecting this stuff. This may be a minor setback, but he shouldn't let it stop him from continuing.
I'm pretty certain he will get past this and keep collecting and enjoying....this is just a major shock and incident for him....and rightfully so.
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Sorry, I respect everyone's opinion, but I can't subscribe to kids doing kids stuff. 16 years old is certainly an age for silly dicking around, but it also is or should be old enough to come forward and face responsibilities at once, not at evening's end and by proxy, especially knowing the sentimental side of the damage you've provoked. That's little shits doing little shits stuff.
The way Gary told the story, they did come forward, it was just middle son and Gary's wife that "withheld" the info from Gary until the end of the night.
@ Gary... that last part. Damn! He's right too. I can understand how a good part of the joy and pleasure of any collection is the experience, not just the items themselves.
I stand corrected. I was under the impression the kids' parents didn't know yet.
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That pisses me off just reading it too. Gary, you need to go to their house and fuck some of their shit up, it's the only responsible adult like thing to do.
Seriously though, I don't buy the whole kids being kids thing. I knew at fucking 6 years old doing something like that was wrong let alone fucking 16! Kids are drinking, smoking, vaping, stealing shit, robbing people and fucking younger than 16 these days so there should be no leniency on this IMO. Damn, I'd be wild.
If anything, might give you some leverage with your wife to stop these get togethers at your house if you don't want them anymore. People are fucking animals. The less in your house the better.
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Destroying property pissed me off. They need to pay, monetary for their indiscretions.
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Destroying property pissed me off. They need to pay, monetary for their indiscretions.
Yes, with their heads.
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No. They do need to learn their are consequences and take away what they individually love.
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I don't think he meant to literally behead them.
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No. They do need to learn their are consequences and take away what they individually love.
I don't think he meant to literally behead them.
I mean, depends who you ask, execution by guillotine MAY be appropriate for the cause but yes, I didn't actually mean to decapitate them. We'll go with Joe's suggestion.
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That is the best place to get the value of your music collection, it can get really granular with the releases too.
Cool....thanks. :tup Will definitely share that with him.
Second that site; I won't name names - I'll let them do it! - but I'm on there, and there are at least two other people here that go on there regularly. I have an account and I've both bought and sold on there. I've got my entire collection catalogued, and it gives you updated prices - low, medium, high - for everything in real time.
If it matters, I'm with you 1000%. Entertaining at this point is a shit show and I'd rather not do it. And if I do, I expect people to treat my house and my things as if they were their own. No, actually, I expect them to treat them as if they WEREN'T theirs, because it seems like people don't give a rat's ass about their things these days. A 16-year-old should already know to leave other's stuff alone, but in case they don't this will be a nice reminder.
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No. They do need to learn their are consequences and take away what they individually love.
I don't think he meant to literally behead them.
I mean, depends who you ask, execution by guillotine MAY be appropriate for the cause but yes, I didn't actually mean to decapitate them. We'll go with Joe's suggestion.
It depends what Beatles record it was. For me, beheading is still on the table.
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That is the best place to get the value of your music collection, it can get really granular with the releases too.
Cool....thanks. :tup Will definitely share that with him.
Second that site; I won't name names - I'll let them do it! - but I'm on there, and there are at least two other people here that go on there regularly. I have an account and I've both bought and sold on there. I've got my entire collection catalogued, and it gives you updated prices - low, medium, high - for everything in real time.
Assuming that I am at least one of the people you are talking about. I am a heavy Discogs user. I think I corrected Stads on an entry one time before I knew it was Stads. :biggrin:
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My blood would have been boiling. Time for consequences and repercussions!
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My blood would have been boiling. Time for consequences and repercussions!
I think we need to get Gary some bubblegum!
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I think we’ve landed on a monetary compensation and not replacing the actual vinyls. My son is placing a lot of the ‘value’ on the experience of finding the records and so he’s leaning towards recouping $$$ and simply re-buying the damaged one’s himself
So, will probably use discogs to justify/verify the value of what was damaged.
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I think we’ve landed on a monetary compensation and not replacing the actual vinyls. My son is placing a lot of the ‘value’ on the experience of finding the records and so he’s leaning towards recouping $$$ and simply re-buying the damaged one’s himself
This seems the wisest course of action, IMO. He can keep his memories of the earlier collection and build on them when replacing the damaged records. The memories and the collecting experiences are the real value, the records are just "things". Hopefully, in time, the party of 2023 will just be part of the his fondness for the collection.
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That is the best place to get the value of your music collection, it can get really granular with the releases too.
Cool....thanks. :tup Will definitely share that with him.
Second that site; I won't name names - I'll let them do it! - but I'm on there, and there are at least two other people here that go on there regularly. I have an account and I've both bought and sold on there. I've got my entire collection catalogued, and it gives you updated prices - low, medium, high - for everything in real time.
Assuming that I am at least one of the people you are talking about. I am a heavy Discogs user. I think I corrected Stads on an entry one time before I knew it was Stads. :biggrin:
You are and you did (rightfully, I might add). :) :) :) :) :). Funny enough, I just got a question about one of my entries from a guy who used to live here in CT and who used to post at the Genesis forum years ago with me. He got a divorce, moved west, and we lost touch. It was nice to reconnect.
I love that site; I spend a lot of time there adding and subtracting things. It's relaxing and fun (and depressing, knowing how much I spent on the wall of CDs downstairs!!!!).
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Yeah, it's insane to see what my collection has been sold for based on various prices. They have me valued at just below $18,000 on the low end and just over $68,000 on the high end. I recently went down a rabbit hole to see what the most expensive things in my library are and was just flabbergasted at what some of this stuff has sold at.
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Yeah, it's insane to see what my collection has been sold for based on various prices. They have me valued at just below $18,000 on the low end and just over $68,000 on the high end. I recently went down a rabbit hole to see what the most expensive things in my library are and was just flabbergasted at what some of this stuff has sold at.
My dad has started giving me his old Vinyl. I have a box already, and it's all like disco stuff. I found a couple I thought might be worthy of keeping, but most seem like garbage to me, but I could be wrong. I might have to make use of this and see if anything has value.
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Yeah, it's insane to see what my collection has been sold for based on various prices. They have me valued at just below $18,000 on the low end and just over $68,000 on the high end. I recently went down a rabbit hole to see what the most expensive things in my library are and was just flabbergasted at what some of this stuff has sold at.
I'm in the same range, and I did the same thing too; I have two Grateful Dead Dave's Picks that claim to have been sold for nearly a grand. Insane, to me.
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So last night we have our usual handful of couples and their kids over for New Years.....and I once again begrudgingly went along with it all. I'm just 'over' the whole get together for New Years thing....would rather just not do anything cuz I'm well into the 'get off my lawn' stage of being older and would just prefer to not do any of the song and dance. Anyway, the first couple that we know really well showed up around 7:15ish along with their son (16) and a buddy (16). We start talking to the couple and the two kiddos saunter off to wait for my two older sons to get home from work. Which they did around 7:30.
Fast Forward....it's the end of the night....everyone's gone and we're cleaning up and my wife and middle son come to me and say we need to tell you something but wanted to wait until everyone was gone. The proceed to tell me this:
When the first two kids arrived they thought it'd be a funny 'prank' on my middle son to rearrange all the stuff in his room. They started doing that, moving this and that around and at one point this one kid thought he would pick up the double stacked vinly record shelf filled with records that was on my sons dresser....but when he did....the entire thing broke and fell apart and his records fell out everywhere. Then, he and the other kid just haphazardly flung/tossed them onto his bed and left it at that.
My middle son REALLY got into vinyls about two or three years ago. His music tastes are so broad and so diverse....it's really something for a 16 year old. So, he collects, gets gifted...seeks out all these albums and it's a major point of pride for him. One of which is this original print of a Beatles album (I'll have to check which one it is) that my Dad gave to him a while back. That jacket, along with about twenty others was ripped, a bunch were knicked up and torn.....he's found a few records already with chips in it and apparently.....I didn't know this.....even when the records are in the sleeves and protected they can be rubbed or hit the wrong way and the grooves can be damaged.
So, they tell me this at like 12:45am and I freaking get heated >:( I asked my wife to contact his parents to let them know what was going on and she was hesitant saying we could do it tomorrow. I wanted them and the kid to know immediately so I texted them and gave them a run down of the situation....and ended it with my expectation is that every damaged record will be replaced. They agreed and just asked to be told what is damaged.
The issue is now outside of the obvious physical damage to the jackets and some of the records.....he now has to listen to 40-50 of these vinyls to see if there is any skipping or scratching. Gonna take a bit.
Anyway....I am still ticked off because my son was extremely upset....he's put a lot of time and effort AND $$$ into that collection and it was just abused and not respected. It's a very, very, VERY good thing my wife knew not to make me aware of that while everyone was here because I would have not held back on my opinion and feelings about what transpired.
It's just another reason why I just don't like having large groups of people over. I'm good with a couple or two....or in the summer when everyone can hang on our patio....but, I'm just past the house full of folks. Maybe I'm an old party pooper but I'm just not a fan of it anymore.
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How did two random kids get in your middle son's room?
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So last night we have our usual handful of couples and their kids over for New Years.....and I once again begrudgingly went along with it all. I'm just 'over' the whole get together for New Years thing....would rather just not do anything cuz I'm well into the 'get off my lawn' stage of being older and would just prefer to not do any of the song and dance. Anyway, the first couple that we know really well showed up around 7:15ish along with their son (16) and a buddy (16). We start talking to the couple and the two kiddos saunter off to wait for my two older sons to get home from work. Which they did around 7:30.
Fast Forward....it's the end of the night....everyone's gone and we're cleaning up and my wife and middle son come to me and say we need to tell you something but wanted to wait until everyone was gone. The proceed to tell me this:
When the first two kids arrived they thought it'd be a funny 'prank' on my middle son to rearrange all the stuff in his room. They started doing that, moving this and that around and at one point this one kid thought he would pick up the double stacked vinly record shelf filled with records that was on my sons dresser....but when he did....the entire thing broke and fell apart and his records fell out everywhere. Then, he and the other kid just haphazardly flung/tossed them onto his bed and left it at that.
My middle son REALLY got into vinyls about two or three years ago. His music tastes are so broad and so diverse....it's really something for a 16 year old. So, he collects, gets gifted...seeks out all these albums and it's a major point of pride for him. One of which is this original print of a Beatles album (I'll have to check which one it is) that my Dad gave to him a while back. That jacket, along with about twenty others was ripped, a bunch were knicked up and torn.....he's found a few records already with chips in it and apparently.....I didn't know this.....even when the records are in the sleeves and protected they can be rubbed or hit the wrong way and the grooves can be damaged.
So, they tell me this at like 12:45am and I freaking get heated >:( I asked my wife to contact his parents to let them know what was going on and she was hesitant saying we could do it tomorrow. I wanted them and the kid to know immediately so I texted them and gave them a run down of the situation....and ended it with my expectation is that every damaged record will be replaced. They agreed and just asked to be told what is damaged.
The issue is now outside of the obvious physical damage to the jackets and some of the records.....he now has to listen to 40-50 of these vinyls to see if there is any skipping or scratching. Gonna take a bit.
Anyway....I am still ticked off because my son was extremely upset....he's put a lot of time and effort AND $$$ into that collection and it was just abused and not respected. It's a very, very, VERY good thing my wife knew not to make me aware of that while everyone was here because I would have not held back on my opinion and feelings about what transpired.
It's just another reason why I just don't like having large groups of people over. I'm good with a couple or two....or in the summer when everyone can hang on our patio....but, I'm just past the house full of folks. Maybe I'm an old party pooper but I'm just not a fan of it anymore.
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How did two random kids get in your middle son's room?
Um, did you read the first paragraph? :huh:
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So last night we have our usual handful of couples and their kids over for New Years.....and I once again begrudgingly went along with it all. I'm just 'over' the whole get together for New Years thing....would rather just not do anything cuz I'm well into the 'get off my lawn' stage of being older and would just prefer to not do any of the song and dance. Anyway, the first couple that we know really well showed up around 7:15ish along with their son (16) and a buddy (16). We start talking to the couple and the two kiddos saunter off to wait for my two older sons to get home from work. Which they did around 7:30.
Fast Forward....it's the end of the night....everyone's gone and we're cleaning up and my wife and middle son come to me and say we need to tell you something but wanted to wait until everyone was gone. The proceed to tell me this:
When the first two kids arrived they thought it'd be a funny 'prank' on my middle son to rearrange all the stuff in his room. They started doing that, moving this and that around and at one point this one kid thought he would pick up the double stacked vinly record shelf filled with records that was on my sons dresser....but when he did....the entire thing broke and fell apart and his records fell out everywhere. Then, he and the other kid just haphazardly flung/tossed them onto his bed and left it at that.
My middle son REALLY got into vinyls about two or three years ago. His music tastes are so broad and so diverse....it's really something for a 16 year old. So, he collects, gets gifted...seeks out all these albums and it's a major point of pride for him. One of which is this original print of a Beatles album (I'll have to check which one it is) that my Dad gave to him a while back. That jacket, along with about twenty others was ripped, a bunch were knicked up and torn.....he's found a few records already with chips in it and apparently.....I didn't know this.....even when the records are in the sleeves and protected they can be rubbed or hit the wrong way and the grooves can be damaged.
So, they tell me this at like 12:45am and I freaking get heated >:( I asked my wife to contact his parents to let them know what was going on and she was hesitant saying we could do it tomorrow. I wanted them and the kid to know immediately so I texted them and gave them a run down of the situation....and ended it with my expectation is that every damaged record will be replaced. They agreed and just asked to be told what is damaged.
The issue is now outside of the obvious physical damage to the jackets and some of the records.....he now has to listen to 40-50 of these vinyls to see if there is any skipping or scratching. Gonna take a bit.
Anyway....I am still ticked off because my son was extremely upset....he's put a lot of time and effort AND $$$ into that collection and it was just abused and not respected. It's a very, very, VERY good thing my wife knew not to make me aware of that while everyone was here because I would have not held back on my opinion and feelings about what transpired.
It's just another reason why I just don't like having large groups of people over. I'm good with a couple or two....or in the summer when everyone can hang on our patio....but, I'm just past the house full of folks. Maybe I'm an old party pooper but I'm just not a fan of it anymore.
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How did two random kids get in your middle son's room?
Um, did you read the first paragraph? :huh:
I read. Maybe its different for me but a room is a VERY private place especially for a teenage boy. I would have never thought I could go into someone else's room without an adult or older sibling telling me I could. And honestly I would never want some kid in my room while I was not there, rooting through my stuff and causing mischief. Even if they were my friend. I just don't get how it could happen.
I agree with beheading, both the two never-do-wells, and also whoever told them they could come to my room without me.
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i don't agree with beheading (tho lol'd at the bluntness of the comment), but i definitely agree there seems to be more going on here. it's teen code that rooms are sacred and you don't just go into someone else's. i would have never done that in a million years when i was 15
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i don't agree with beheading (tho lol'd at the bluntness of the comment), but i definitely agree there seems to be more going on here. it's teen code that rooms are sacred and you don't just go into someone else's. i would have never done that in a million years when i was 15
This, times 10,000.
You know, something else: my 15 year old is always on about "prank this" and "prank that". I don't know if it's Ashton Kutcher, or TikTok or what, but it seems like "pranks" are now the language, but it's a dicey proposition. I don't quite get this fascination with "pranks", myself, but it's only good when it's in good fun and the target is more or less in on it (meaning, they'd be down with the consequences). Clearly that's not the case here. I hope to hell that those kids didn't film any of that, and now it's on the inter webs at your son's expense. That's just being cruel now.
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i don't agree with beheading (tho lol'd at the bluntness of the comment), but i definitely agree there seems to be more going on here. it's teen code that rooms are sacred and you don't just go into someone else's. i would have never done that in a million years when i was 15
This, times 10,000.
When I was 16, I wouldn't have been caught dead attending a NYE party with my parents. In fact, on NYE when I was 16, me and my buddies spent the night drinking and slept in some old man's deserted barn. I remember going to this shady motel accross the street, and we found this black dude sitting outside one of the rooms with no shoes on. We gave him a couple of joints and he agreed to buy us two cases of beer (we gave him the money and a 6pk worth) and we were good.
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i remember being like 13-14 and being dragged along to Super Bowl parties at houses of friends of my parents and the kids always hung out in common areas like basements/dens/etc and never in private rooms of kids, even when said kid who's room it was was in attendance
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i don't agree with beheading (tho lol'd at the bluntness of the comment), but i definitely agree there seems to be more going on here. it's teen code that rooms are sacred and you don't just go into someone else's. i would have never done that in a million years when i was 15
This, times 10,000.
You know, something else: my 15 year old is always on about "prank this" and "prank that". I don't know if it's Ashton Kutcher, or TikTok or what, but it seems like "pranks" are now the language, but it's a dicey proposition. I don't quite get this fascination with "pranks", myself, but it's only good when it's in good fun and the target is more or less in on it (meaning, they'd be down with the consequences). Clearly that's not the case here. I hope to hell that those kids didn't film any of that, and now it's on the inter webs at your son's expense. That's just being cruel now.
Yeah it's the "invisible audience" we always heard about 10x.
Everything is a great moment for the gram (or the tok, or whatever) until it's not.
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I'm happy to see the decapitation option is still on the table here. :tup
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i don't agree with beheading (tho lol'd at the bluntness of the comment), but i definitely agree there seems to be more going on here. it's teen code that rooms are sacred and you don't just go into someone else's. i would have never done that in a million years when i was 15
This, times 10,000.
You know, something else: my 15 year old is always on about "prank this" and "prank that". I don't know if it's Ashton Kutcher, or TikTok or what, but it seems like "pranks" are now the language, but it's a dicey proposition. I don't quite get this fascination with "pranks", myself, but it's only good when it's in good fun and the target is more or less in on it (meaning, they'd be down with the consequences). Clearly that's not the case here. I hope to hell that those kids didn't film any of that, and now it's on the inter webs at your son's expense. That's just being cruel now.
The problem here is that the initial prank went wrong. Although I do think the prank of reorganizing someones bedroom needs to be seriously thought out including knowing the pranked person comfortably to do such a thing. But putting it on the internet might be a great idea if it's legit funny and shows the accident of it all going wrong (assuming everyone is OK with it). Showing someone actually hurt (physically or emotionally) from the prank would be very wrong though, especially a child. My point is merely, I dont think social media (based on what has been shared) has anything to do with why this happened. Pranks were done long before social media. I can think of pranks from high school that didn't go so well. It happens because we are young and dumb, often not thinking beyond the LOL moment. (like did anyone think re-arranging furniture would lead to breaking something? Maybe not a teenager, but I think I would at my current age).
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Back in my day, a good prank involved getting one buddy to do blindfolded situps, and then another buddy moons him sticking his bare ass right at the top of the situp.
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Back in my day, a good prank involved getting one buddy to do blindfolded situps, and then another buddy moons him sticking his bare ass right at the top of the situp.
Sounds like something you'd do even today.
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Back in my day, a good prank involved getting one buddy to do blindfolded situps, and then another buddy moons him sticking his bare ass right at the top of the situp.
Sounds like something you'd do even today.
Let's get together for you to do some situps and see!
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Back in my day, a good prank involved getting one buddy to do blindfolded situps, and then another buddy moons him sticking his bare ass right at the top of the situp.
Sounds like something you'd do even today.
Let's get together for you to do some situps and see!
Exactly.
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I like situps.
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Back in my day, a good prank involved getting one buddy to do blindfolded situps, and then another buddy moons him sticking his bare ass right at the top of the situp.
Sounds like something you'd do even today.
Take note progpower folks, do not put on the blindfold in Atlanta
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At no time in my life would it have ever been considered a good anything to have my bare ass anywhere near another male.
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When I was 16, I wouldn't have been caught dead attending a NYE party with my parents. In fact, on NYE when I was 16, me and my buddies spent the night drinking and slept in some old man's deserted barn. I remember going to this shady motel accross the street, and we found this black dude sitting outside one of the rooms with no shoes on. We gave him a couple of joints and he agreed to buy us two cases of beer (we gave him the money and a 6pk worth) and we were good.
i remember being like 13-14 and being dragged along to Super Bowl parties at houses of friends of my parents and the kids always hung out in common areas like basements/dens/etc and never in private rooms of kids, even when said kid who's room it was was in attendance
My mom and stepfather went to great parties. I and the other kids always had a blast. Even at 16 I'd have a much better time at one of their parties than I would with my friends. Nice houses. Great food. Tons of liquor, and occasionally drugs. Extended family, so everybody knew each other.
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At no time in my life would it have ever been considered a good anything to have my bare ass anywhere near another male.
I might rather have my vinyl collection ruined :lol
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That is the best place to get the value of your music collection, it can get really granular with the releases too.
Cool....thanks. :tup Will definitely share that with him.
Second that site; I won't name names - I'll let them do it! - but I'm on there, and there are at least two other people here that go on there regularly. I have an account and I've both bought and sold on there. I've got my entire collection catalogued, and it gives you updated prices - low, medium, high - for everything in real time.
Assuming that I am at least one of the people you are talking about. I am a heavy Discogs user. I think I corrected Stads on an entry one time before I knew it was Stads. :biggrin:
You are and you did (rightfully, I might add). :) :) :) :) :). Funny enough, I just got a question about one of my entries from a guy who used to live here in CT and who used to post at the Genesis forum years ago with me. He got a divorce, moved west, and we lost touch. It was nice to reconnect.
I love that site; I spend a lot of time there adding and subtracting things. It's relaxing and fun (and depressing, knowing how much I spent on the wall of CDs downstairs!!!!).
You can add me to that list, I love getting a new record and adding it to my collection on discogs. Occasionally I'll get DT folks reaching out for some records I have.
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The kids are getting off light with financial restitution. I would have beat wholesale ass if something like that had happened to me and my stuff in my room.
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The kids are getting off light with financial restitution. I would have beat wholesale ass if something like that had happened to me and my stuff in my room.
This is the reason my wife and son waited until everyone left to tell me. I was HOT!!!
And, based off of discogs and their cost/price their site associated with the damaged vinyl's....that dollar amount came out to $368 for the 11 vinyl's that had obvious damage to the covers and vinyl's themselves. We've sent that info over to Jordin and his dad so we will see how this all shakes out.
He's still listening through all of them to see if there are skips or anything that we just can't see right off the bat.
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The kids are getting off light with financial restitution. I would have beat wholesale ass if something like that had happened to me and my stuff in my room.
This is the reason my wife and son waited until everyone left to tell me. I was HOT!!!
And, based off of discogs and their cost/price their site associated with the damaged vinyl's....that dollar amount came out to $368 for the 11 vinyl's that had obvious damage to the covers and vinyl's themselves. We've sent that info over to Jordin and his dad so we will see how this all shakes out.
He's still listening through all of them to see if there are skips or anything that we just can't see right off the bat.
Sounds like you have some billable hours too
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The kids are getting off light with financial restitution. I would have beat wholesale ass if something like that had happened to me and my stuff in my room.
This is the reason my wife and son waited until everyone left to tell me. I was HOT!!!
And, based off of discogs and their cost/price their site associated with the damaged vinyl's....that dollar amount came out to $368 for the 11 vinyl's that had obvious damage to the covers and vinyl's themselves. We've sent that info over to Jordin and his dad so we will see how this all shakes out.
He's still listening through all of them to see if there are skips or anything that we just can't see right off the bat.
Sounds like you have some billable hours too
:lol No kidding!
He started to feel bad yesterday that he was going to send them the info and that it was almost $400. He was wanting to just not ask Jordin for the money to replace them all since they're good friends. I stepped in and told him absolutely not....that he'd spent his own $$$ on those records and that he deserved to be compensated for the damages. Friend or not, Jordin has to have some consequences for this.
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+ Punitive Damages!!
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If a company is so big, with multiple divisions, and it takes more than 3 prompts to get where you need to to, please hire a few people to answer the damn phone. Also, my business is obviously NOT important to you, as your recorded message states. If it were, I would not be on hold for 13 minutes with 30 second looped messages driving me insane.
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If a company is so big, with multiple divisions, and it takes more than 3 prompts to get where you need to to, please hire a few people to answer the damn phone. Also, my business is obviously NOT important to you, as your recorded message states. If it were, I would not be on hold for 13 minutes with 30 second looped messages driving me insane.
Back in 2007 when I first bought all my big studio gear, I had a problem with one of the programs. Called tech support and was on hold for I think 30 minutes to an hour. Doesn't sound so bad? Well if you didn't push a certain button every minute or so, they'd disconnect you.
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The kids are getting off light with financial restitution. I would have beat wholesale ass if something like that had happened to me and my stuff in my room.
This is the reason my wife and son waited until everyone left to tell me. I was HOT!!!
And, based off of discogs and their cost/price their site associated with the damaged vinyl's....that dollar amount came out to $368 for the 11 vinyl's that had obvious damage to the covers and vinyl's themselves. We've sent that info over to Jordin and his dad so we will see how this all shakes out.
He's still listening through all of them to see if there are skips or anything that we just can't see right off the bat.
Sounds like you have some billable hours too
I would think this is not unreasonable.
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British Airways managed to lose my luggage on a single segment flight. Impressive in some ways. Annoying in most others.
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British Airways managed to lose my luggage on a single segment flight. Impressive in some ways. Annoying in most others.
I think I saw somewhere pretty recently that they've really been plummeting in terms of quality. You never expected great customer service from them , but now their flight-ops seem to be pretty poor, as well.
I haven't even flown them in 15 years, and I know they still manage to hack me off somewhat regularly via their partnership with AA.
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I think I saw somewhere pretty recently that they've really been plummeting in terms of quality. You never expected great customer service from them , but now their flight-ops seem to be pretty poor, as well.
Most flag carriers in Europe have steadily declined in quality/value when the EU liberalisation of the Airline market meant they had to compete with fresh new Low cost carriers with no pension obligations. BA is still ok on long haul (albeit worse than carriers like Lufthansa in my experience) but the service is now extremely minimal on Short Haul, which I wouldn't mind if their prices reflected it.
That being said, luggage issues are due to ground staff and since Heathrow only uses two companies for baggage handling, the blame probably lies with their incompetence.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDW5UcFWsAA92NC?format=jpg&name=large)
this pissed me off on my way home today.
Don't even know what I hit, likely a small piece of metal that you can't see. I noticed the truck in front of me spark near it's back wheels right before I felt the tire go out, but didn't see anything on the road.
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Fuucckk....that's the worst. I've had heaps of screws and shit get into my tyres over the years. Changing a tyre on the side of the fucking road is not fun at all.
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That sucks! At least it was the passenger side.
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Getting that replaced now, and good thing I got the full warranty. I seem to pop a tire once a year with this car. So when I got all new tires last year I got all the extras and it came to good use, saving me money today. I guess thats the good news of this, but still sucks. Although it meant I didn't have to come into work and can work from Midas/home today.
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Did it blow out or just go flat?
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Did it blow out or just go flat?
Blow out, needed to be replaced.
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
Ah....fuck. :'(
Busted pipe or something?
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
Ah....fuck. :'(
Busted pipe or something?
We had wicked bad wind last night and it fucked with my disposal pipe outside, which in turn shifted the pump inside so the ball wouldn’t trigger the pump.
Wait, we still talking about basements right? …
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
I feel you. I was standing in ankle-deep water from 11:30 last night to 6:45 this morning, running pumps and shop vacs non-stop trying to keep the flooding at bay. My hot water heater still got knocked out. By my estimates, I sent between 4400 and 5100 gallons of water down my slop sink.
I lived in my house for over eight years without ever seeing a drop of water in the basement, and now I've had three floods in the last 18 months. I'm probably going to have another one this weekend as they're calling for another 2-3" of rain :tdwn
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That does sound fucked. Do you have a sump pump or something to pump it out yourself? Hopefully not too much damage or ruined valuables? :blush
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
I feel you. I was standing in ankle-deep water from 11:30 last night to 6:45 this morning, running pumps and shop vacs non-stop trying to keep the flooding at bay. My hot water heater still got knocked out. By my estimates, I sent between 4400 and 5100 gallons of water down my slop sink.
I lived in my house for over eight years without ever seeing a drop of water in the basement, and now I've had three floods in the last 18 months. I'm probably going to have another one this weekend as they're calling for another 2-3" of rain :tdwn
Holy shit mate!
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
I feel you. I was standing in ankle-deep water from 11:30 last night to 6:45 this morning, running pumps and shop vacs non-stop trying to keep the flooding at bay. My hot water heater still got knocked out. By my estimates, I sent between 4400 and 5100 gallons of water down my slop sink.
I lived in my house for over eight years without ever seeing a drop of water in the basement, and now I've had three floods in the last 18 months. I'm probably going to have another one this weekend as they're calling for another 2-3" of rain :tdwn
That sucks for both of you. The storm last night brought a shit ton of rain. No flooding for me but my two sump pumps were very active. Lots of parts of NJ not so lucky. And here we go again this weekend, ugh.
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
Been there, my friend. Happened way too often at our old house back in Mount Airy.
One of my favorite things about our current house here in Raleigh is that we live at essentially the top of a hill. We have the high ground now lol
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The wind has been wicked indeed the last 30 or so hours. We lost power a few times (nothing longer than 10 seconds, just annoying to have to go and reset the clocks! The ecology is so dense here with clay that we've got two sump pumps, and in these conditions, they'll run a couple times an hour each. Probably being only a mile or so from Lake Erie contributes to it. Luckily, there's enough of a slope away from the house in a few different directions, so long as those are running, there isn't any worry of flooding... which is why we have a standby / natural gas generator.
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
I feel you. I was standing in ankle-deep water from 11:30 last night to 6:45 this morning, running pumps and shop vacs non-stop trying to keep the flooding at bay. My hot water heater still got knocked out. By my estimates, I sent between 4400 and 5100 gallons of water down my slop sink.
I lived in my house for over eight years without ever seeing a drop of water in the basement, and now I've had three floods in the last 18 months. I'm probably going to have another one this weekend as they're calling for another 2-3" of rain :tdwn
That sucks for both of you. The storm last night brought a shit ton of rain. No flooding for me but my two sump pumps were very active. Lots of parts of NJ not so lucky. And here we go again this weekend, ugh.
Did you guys get snow in Jersey last weekend? That was the killer here in CT. We had like 4" of rain, plus 7" of snow melt, over a 12 hour period.
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That does sound fucked. Do you have a sump pump or something to pump it out yourself? Hopefully not too much damage or ruined valuables? :blush
:biggrin:
No valuables. Some of my CD fell off a table and got wet. But that’s it.
Chino, that blows. Yikes.
And Hef speaking to us from the high ground. :lol
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Waking up to 2-3 inches of water in my basement this morning.. >:( :censored >:(
I feel you. I was standing in ankle-deep water from 11:30 last night to 6:45 this morning, running pumps and shop vacs non-stop trying to keep the flooding at bay. My hot water heater still got knocked out. By my estimates, I sent between 4400 and 5100 gallons of water down my slop sink.
I lived in my house for over eight years without ever seeing a drop of water in the basement, and now I've had three floods in the last 18 months. I'm probably going to have another one this weekend as they're calling for another 2-3" of rain :tdwn
That sucks for both of you. The storm last night brought a shit ton of rain. No flooding for me but my two sump pumps were very active. Lots of parts of NJ not so lucky. And here we go again this weekend, ugh.
Did you guys get snow in Jersey last weekend? That was the killer here in CT. We had like 4" of rain, plus 7" of snow melt, over a 12 hour period.
North NJ did, but not me. I've been fortunate to avoid the snow so far.
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I think you guys got the same band of storm we did in Florida. It stretched from Florida all the way up north from what I recall. Not much happened in Tampa, just a lot of wind and rain. It did ground the flights for a few hours yesterday.
There was a tornado landing in Fort Lauderdale someone caught on camera.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C12dzpxsMA9/?igsh=a2ExNXRhZXFlMXlh
I think it's the same one in this article
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-flame-lined-tornado-rips-through-fort-lauderdale-18669844
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I think you guys got the same band of storm we did in Florida. It stretched from Florida all the way up north from what I recall. Not much happened in Tampa, just a lot of wind and rain. It did ground the flights for a few hours yesterday.
There was a tornado landing in Fort Lauderdale someone caught on camera.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C12dzpxsMA9/?igsh=a2ExNXRhZXFlMXlh
I think it's the same one in this article
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-flame-lined-tornado-rips-through-fort-lauderdale-18669844
Saw that this morning, and yeah, my sister was telling my parents to stay safe for the storm in FL last night and I'm like.... hey shouldn't they be saying that to you since my sister lives in a floor zone (Hoboken NJ). :lol the east coast just got battered basically.
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And Hef speaking to us from the high ground. :lol
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That does sound fucked. Do you have a sump pump or something to pump it out yourself? Hopefully not too much damage or ruined valuables? :blush
:biggrin:
No valuables. Some of my CD fell off a table and got wet. But that’s it.
Chino, that blows. Yikes.
And Hef speaking to us from the high ground. :lol
Hopefully not a Winger CD!!
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He has those as coasters.
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Hey, I actually LIKE Winger.
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As do I. I've seen them 3 times live. Soon to be 4 times in 9 months with my bruhs.
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Winger. :metal
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I feel like flooded basements is an east coast thing. At 47 I have no idea what a sump pump is. I've never seen one, or been aware of a house that has one.
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My sump pump runs all the time. I've had to replace it 3 times because the pipe outside froze and the pumps overheated.
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I'm in Minnesota and we have sump pumps. Ours runs a lot, especially in the spring.
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My families in Indiana, Ohio, and Maryland definitely have sump pumps for their basements.. but having lived my whole life west of the Mississippi, I've never seen or dealt with one.
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It's definitely a location thing. Like Florida for example you are unlikely to even find basements.
For me, my house is near the ocean and on top of a water table. My lawn is ALWAYS a bit soft and damp if you were to put your hand in the ground. I don't have a flooding problem, but the house was built with lots of precautions for that because of the location. Sump pumps and french drains. I know when I bought the house, my mother (also my real estate agent) asked around the neighborhood about flooding. Turns out quite a few of my neighbors do not have the same precautions and are prone to basement flooding. But my house had no history of it according to the inspector. (that he could tell at least) so it was assumed that the sump pumps and drains likely did the work for prevention. My house is also on a slight hill compared to others on the street. Id imagine that also helps.
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I feel like flooded basements is an east coast thing. At 47 I have no idea what a sump pump is. I've never seen one, or been aware of a house that has one.
We don't even have basements down here, so yeah, no sump pumps.
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Well, yesterday: about 8:30, 9:00 pm I threw up. Three times. Then pretty much like clockwork, every hour or so, plus or minus, vomiting and diahrhea up until this morning. Last Kesel Run to the bathroom was about 8:00 this morning. I'm on a work call I couldn't reschedule, but after this is done I'm going to bed, see if I can get some sleep.
I haven't thrown up in over a decade and I forgot how shitty it is. Chills, sweats, and at first I think I shit my pants twice until I got the system down. How humiliating. I'm a grown man!!! :)
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I'm a grown man!!! :)
You're a grown (OLD) man! :lol
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Sounds like a stomach flu or something, get well soon, but that feeling of non stop puking/shitting is pretty bad after a day, like aren't you empty?? Although the worst is the chills/sweat, that's how you know you are really sick.
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Well, yesterday: about 8:30, 9:00 pm I threw up. Three times. Then pretty much like clockwork, every hour or so, plus or minus, vomiting and diahrhea up until this morning. Last Kesel Run to the bathroom was about 8:00 this morning. I'm on a work call I couldn't reschedule, but after this is done I'm going to bed, see if I can get some sleep.
I haven't thrown up in over a decade and I forgot how shitty it is. Chills, sweats, and at first I think I shit my pants twice until I got the system down. How humiliating. I'm a grown man!!! :)
I'd recommend testing for COVID...had similar symptoms two months ago, and decided to test (mostly bc it's been going around work). For the first time (after 4 years and literally hundreds of tests) I tested positive.
I'm immune-compramised and have a history of lung ailments, so I hopped on a virtual appointment and they put me on Paxlovid right away. Withing two doses I felt wayyyyyyy better. Never developed the cough, and other than isolating for the remainder of the week, was back to my old self in a few days.
Might just be the stomach flu, but if it's Covid, the anti-viral can be the difference between a stint on the couch vs. a stint in the hospital.
Either way, hope you feel better soon.
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Well, yesterday: about 8:30, 9:00 pm I threw up. Three times. Then pretty much like clockwork, every hour or so, plus or minus, vomiting and diahrhea up until this morning. Last Kesel Run to the bathroom was about 8:00 this morning. I'm on a work call I couldn't reschedule, but after this is done I'm going to bed, see if I can get some sleep.
I haven't thrown up in over a decade and I forgot how shitty it is. Chills, sweats, and at first I think I shit my pants twice until I got the system down. How humiliating. I'm a grown man!!! :)
You pregnant?
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If not for the chills and sweats, I'd have thought food poisoning.
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My client (also a lawyer) had a super similar thing. Said it turned out to be Flu B or something.
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Well, yesterday: about 8:30, 9:00 pm I threw up. Three times. Then pretty much like clockwork, every hour or so, plus or minus, vomiting and diahrhea up until this morning. Last Kesel Run to the bathroom was about 8:00 this morning. I'm on a work call I couldn't reschedule, but after this is done I'm going to bed, see if I can get some sleep.
I haven't thrown up in over a decade and I forgot how shitty it is. Chills, sweats, and at first I think I shit my pants twice until I got the system down. How humiliating. I'm a grown man!!! :)
Had a very similar experience about two months ago.....it was about 12 hours of hell. At one point around 4am I was collapsed on my bathroom floor with zero energy to really move or do anything.....was just drained. I also had to make the choice at one point to just vomit/dry heave onto the floor as I was also sitting on the toilet going through that aspect as well. It was just utterly brutal.
Then....magically.....after a half days rest and rehydrating I was just back to normal. I thought maybe food poisoning because we had went out to a Mexican restaurant that previous night but no one else we went with got sick. I'm assuming it was just a little 24 hr stomach bug.
But yeah....vomiting sucks....especially when you reach the point of there being nothing left to expunge.
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Had a brutal bout of stomach flu. Then the wife got it. Fever, chills, aches for first 36 hours, then brutal diarrhea and stomach pain for 2.5 days. Took 5 days to feel normal.
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Well, yesterday: about 8:30, 9:00 pm I threw up. Three times. Then pretty much like clockwork, every hour or so, plus or minus, vomiting and diahrhea up until this morning. Last Kesel Run to the bathroom was about 8:00 this morning. I'm on a work call I couldn't reschedule, but after this is done I'm going to bed, see if I can get some sleep.
I haven't thrown up in over a decade and I forgot how shitty it is. Chills, sweats, and at first I think I shit my pants twice until I got the system down. How humiliating. I'm a grown man!!! :)
Shit man, that sounds awful. Hope you shake it off soon.
Yeah, sounds like a gastro bug or something.
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Well, yesterday: about 8:30, 9:00 pm I threw up. Three times. Then pretty much like clockwork, every hour or so, plus or minus, vomiting and diahrhea up until this morning. Last Kesel Run to the bathroom was about 8:00 this morning. I'm on a work call I couldn't reschedule, but after this is done I'm going to bed, see if I can get some sleep.
I haven't thrown up in over a decade and I forgot how shitty it is. Chills, sweats, and at first I think I shit my pants twice until I got the system down. How humiliating. I'm a grown man!!! :)
What a bummer. Hope you're doing better. Good news is that you're very likely already on the mend. Doesn't take long to purge the system.
Just got over one, myself. Relatively mild, but still sucky. Weird thing for me and my immune system. I don't get sick more often or more severely than anybody else for the most part. GI stuff is different, though. After the initial night of misery I'm better, but it takes weeks to months to get things really back to normal. About 3 weeks for this round.
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I'm a grown man!!! :)
You're a grown (OLD) man! :lol
I can relate.
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Well, yesterday: about 8:30, 9:00 pm I threw up. Three times. Then pretty much like clockwork, every hour or so, plus or minus, vomiting and diahrhea up until this morning. Last Kesel Run to the bathroom was about 8:00 this morning. I'm on a work call I couldn't reschedule, but after this is done I'm going to bed, see if I can get some sleep.
I haven't thrown up in over a decade and I forgot how shitty it is. Chills, sweats, and at first I think I shit my pants twice until I got the system down. How humiliating. I'm a grown man!!! :)
Had a very similar experience about two months ago.....it was about 12 hours of hell. At one point around 4am I was collapsed on my bathroom floor with zero energy to really move or do anything.....was just drained. I also had to make the choice at one point to just vomit/dry heave onto the floor as I was also sitting on the toilet going through that aspect as well. It was just utterly brutal.
Then....magically.....after a half days rest and rehydrating I was just back to normal. I thought maybe food poisoning because we had went out to a Mexican restaurant that previous night but no one else we went with got sick. I'm assuming it was just a little 24 hr stomach bug.
But yeah....vomiting sucks....especially when you reach the point of there being nothing left to expunge.
That was exactly it. That first night, about 3 am I puked and rather than go back to bed I just laid on the cool tile floor. Finally about 8 or so I puked for the last time and while I didn't eat anything all day yesterday, and drank water and ginger ale, I was able to sleep from about 11:30 to about 7 and I think I'm back to normal now. I just had some soup and I think the chills/sweats are gone. Still weak, but I think it's passed. Man, I forgot how awful it is to vomit.
I did take a COVID test and a pregnancy test; both were negative but I'll probably take another one over the weekend to be sure.
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Keep us updated, especially on the pregnancy test!
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I did take a COVID test and a pregnancy test; both were negative but I'll probably take another one over the weekend to be sure.
Glad you're not pregnant. Could have been awkward.
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Someone broke another mercury instrument at work today....oof.
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Someone broke another mercury instrument at work today....oof.
It's a sad day when Mercury leads to financial loss.
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Not today but last night......and in general.....being blindsided by small girls holding the Girl Scout Cookie order sheets while their parents stand behind them......all staring at you 'expecting' you to fill out a couple lines of orders. Two sets of sisters of kids I coach hit my up last night before our game......
I was a complete a$$hole and just said...."oh, I'll be right back" and walked away. I'm not fond of the 'ambush' technique. At least when they go door to door I can just not answer the door.
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Not today but last night......and in general.....being blindsided by small girls holding the Girl Scout Cookie order sheets while their parents stand behind them......all staring at you 'expecting' you to fill out a couple lines of orders. Two sets of sisters of kids I coach hit my up last night before our game......
I was a complete a$$hole and just said...."oh, I'll be right back" and walked away. I'm not fond of the 'ambush' technique. At least when they go door to door I can just not answer the door.
"sorry, I just bought a couple boxes from the group outside the grocery store" is my go-to in those situations and, at least some of the times, it's not a lie.
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Not today but last night......and in general.....being blindsided by small girls holding the Girl Scout Cookie order sheets while their parents stand behind them......all staring at you 'expecting' you to fill out a couple lines of orders. Two sets of sisters of kids I coach hit my up last night before our game......
I was a complete a$$hole and just said...."oh, I'll be right back" and walked away. I'm not fond of the 'ambush' technique. At least when they go door to door I can just not answer the door.
"sorry, I just bought a couple boxes from the group outside the grocery store" is my go-to in those situations and, at least some of the times, it's not a lie.
That's a good approach....probably should have said that instead of "I'll be right back after I use the bathroom" And don't get me wrong....I love me some Girls Scout Cookies.....but I know my wife (who is a teacher) will undoubtedly buy the batch she usually does from her students so I generally steer away from purchasing.
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As the father of a girl scout, I completely understand feeling ambushed by someone fundraising, but it is the primary way for the troops to raise money. A couple of boxes $10 to $12) helps.
My daughter's troop sold enough cookies a year ago to pay for 15 girls to go on a 3-day camping event with other troops, as well as for a summer outing. The troop's funds also pay for the the patches and badges that they earn throughout the year as well as reimbursing parents for supplies as we lead meetings.
For example - I spent around $75 so far for a meeting I'm leading next month for the girls to learn about springs and compressed energy by creating launching pads for wooden spools.
At least it's a good cause that promotes incredible values, rather than paying someone $20 to shovel a driveway (some older kids rang my doorbell and were charging $40) when you know that it's just going to probably end up going to a retail store or towards a video game).
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I think for me it's not the asking; that's fine. It's that in today's hyper-competitive environments, I can run across four or more different tribes/troupes/troops/battalions of Girl Scouts and I can't buy from every one, you know?
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I think for me it's not the asking; that's fine. It's that in today's hyper-competitive environments, I can run across four or more different tribes/troupes/troops/battalions of Girl Scouts and I can't buy from every one, you know?
That's why Chino's response seems best. It's honest. (I assume, I could totally see someone just making that up too)
But yeah, it's hard to get mad at someone asking because well, that's literally all they can do really. But to Gary's point, if you are getting ambushed then it likely is going to feel like the asking is turning more into forcing.
For me, I can just point to my guy and say "sorry, its not best for my belly" but I really don't interact with girl scouts to have had this be a thing.
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I think for me it's not the asking; that's fine. It's that in today's hyper-competitive environments, I can run across four or more different tribes/troupes/troops/battalions of Girl Scouts and I can't buy from every one, you know?
I feel you, brother. Capitalism really annoys me too. Glad you and I can come together in this one. :biggrin:
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I just say "No" if I don't want them. I don't give a fuck if they are little kids or not. I don't feel ambushed or anything, it's their gig, and they don't expect to make a sale on every encounter. It's a numbers game, just like every other sales gig.
But, more often, I say "Yes" because I DO want them.
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I just say "No" if I don't want them. I don't give a fuck if they are little kids or not. I don't feel ambushed or anything, it's their gig, and they don't expect to make a sale on every encounter. It's a numbers game, just like every other sales gig.
But, more often, I say "Yes" because I DO want them.
HAHAHAHA. That got a laugh out loud. :)
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I just say "No" if I don't want them. I don't give a fuck if they are little kids or not. I don't feel ambushed or anything, it's their gig, and they don't expect to make a sale on every encounter. It's a numbers game, just like every other sales gig.
But, more often, I say "Yes" because I DO want them.
HAHAHAHA. That got a laugh out loud. :)
That's what I'm here for. It's my job. It's what I do.
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Y'all feel pressured into buying cookies you don't want, just get as many boxes of Tagalongs as you can and send them to me.
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Y'all feel pressured into buying cookies you don't want, just get as many boxes of Tagalongs as you can and send them to me.
Problem solved.
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Since I inevitably buy the scout cookies from someone or the other every year, once I've done an order, any subsequent request or door knock about cookies gets a fat no from me. I just say I've already bought them from some other person.
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A polite "no thank you" works well enough for me.
(Boy Scouts get a stern NO!)
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I was a complete a$$hole and just said...."oh, I'll be right back" and walked away.
I just say "No" if I don't want them. I don't give a fuck if they are little kids or not. I don't feel ambushed or anything, it's their gig, and they don't expect to make a sale on every encounter. It's a numbers game, just like every other sales gig.
Either of these are reactions and responses are more than fine in my book.
Hef is right though, if they are little kids getting into the business game, if they can't accept a knock back on an attempted sale, they are in the wrong fucking game. They learn rejection early or be damned forever in the business world.
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I was a complete a$$hole and just said...."oh, I'll be right back" and walked away.
I just say "No" if I don't want them. I don't give a fuck if they are little kids or not. I don't feel ambushed or anything, it's their gig, and they don't expect to make a sale on every encounter. It's a numbers game, just like every other sales gig.
Either of these are reactions and responses are more than fine in my book.
Hef is right though, if they are little kids getting into the business game, if they can't accept a knock back on an attempted sale, they are in the wrong fucking game. They learn rejection early or be damned forever in the business world.
I kind of agree, but these are little girls. It's kind of hard to have the tough love feel for this.
A polite "no thank you" works well enough for me.
(Boy Scouts get a stern NO!)
At the end of the day, this is fine, but I get it, sometimes people feel bad or pressured based on the seller being young girls, often asking very nice and kindly. Kind of hard to say no honestly, but an excuse is a lot easier. Or complete avoidance, but even harder if you know the kids.
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I was a complete a$$hole and just said...."oh, I'll be right back" and walked away.
I just say "No" if I don't want them. I don't give a fuck if they are little kids or not. I don't feel ambushed or anything, it's their gig, and they don't expect to make a sale on every encounter. It's a numbers game, just like every other sales gig.
Either of these are reactions and responses are more than fine in my book.
Hef is right though, if they are little kids getting into the business game, if they can't accept a knock back on an attempted sale, they are in the wrong fucking game. They learn rejection early or be damned forever in the business world.
My frustration was more directed/fueled by the set of Moms standing directly behind them staring me down.....100% throwing the intimidation game on for me to succumb to just buying a few boxes. It was the wrong place and time. I was about five minutes from stepping onto the bench to coach their sons in a hockey game....was only walking out amongst the crowd to grab a bottle of water from another parent who was running late to give to their kid. I threw the bathroom excuse out there and kept on going then made sure to avoid them on the walk back through.
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I kind of agree, but these are little girls. It's kind of hard to have the tough love feel for this.
I was being a little over the top haha, but yeah it would be hard when they are right there looking at you. Still, I wouldn't feel obliged if I didn't want them. Although if the price is fair and offers some value in relation to the regular supermarket ones, I'll listen.
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I kind of agree, but these are little girls. It's kind of hard to have the tough love feel for this.
I was being a little over the top haha, but yeah it would be hard when they are right there looking at you. Still, I wouldn't feel obliged if I didn't want them. Although if the price is fair and offers some value in relation to the regular supermarket ones, I'll listen.
I mean, girl scout cookies are usually really fucking good so theres that :lol I don't know anything about pricing though, can't recall the last time I personally bought any.
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I kind of agree, but these are little girls. It's kind of hard to have the tough love feel for this.
I was being a little over the top haha, but yeah it would be hard when they are right there looking at you. Still, I wouldn't feel obliged if I didn't want them. Although if the price is fair and offers some value in relation to the regular supermarket ones, I'll listen.
I mean, girl scout cookies are usually really fucking good so theres that :lol I don't know anything about pricing though, can't recall the last time I personally bought any.
We don't really have the cookies thing over here. All the fundraising the kids do are with your regular chocolate bars, so you always know what you're getting. I think people are more inclined to buy too.
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A polite "no thank you" works well enough for me.
(Boy Scouts get a stern NO!)
At the end of the day, this is fine, but I get it, sometimes people feel bad or pressured based on the seller being young girls, often asking very nice and kindly. Kind of hard to say no honestly, but an excuse is a lot easier. Or complete avoidance, but even harder if you know the kids.
In my experience an honest and polite answer has always gotten an equally honest and polite reply.
No thanks, kiddo.
OK, thank you.
The only time I've ever gotten anything other than an "OK, thank you" the kid made me laugh enough that I would have bought a box had I any cash on me. (She told me they go great with beer and smokes after seeing what I was walking out with.) I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
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The only time I've ever gotten anything other than an "OK, thank you" the kid made me laugh enough that I would have bought a box had I any cash on me. (She told me they go great with beer and smokes after seeing what I was walking out with.) I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
:lol
That's a brilliant child!
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A polite "no thank you" works well enough for me.
(Boy Scouts get a stern NO!)
At the end of the day, this is fine, but I get it, sometimes people feel bad or pressured based on the seller being young girls, often asking very nice and kindly. Kind of hard to say no honestly, but an excuse is a lot easier. Or complete avoidance, but even harder if you know the kids.
In my experience an honest and polite answer has always gotten an equally honest and polite reply.
No thanks, kiddo.
OK, thank you.
The only time I've ever gotten anything other than an "OK, thank you" the kid made me laugh enough that I would have bought a box had I any cash on me. (She told me they go great with beer and smokes after seeing what I was walking out with.) I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
Future sales woman extraordinaire right there.
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Thanks guys, I forgot that I need to get my plug her $40 tomorrow.
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I forgot that I need to get my plug her $40 tomorrow.
This is a Kingshmegpost.
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I approve.
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Honored
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I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
Me either. I just don't get it.
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I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
Me either. I just don't get it.
People are just softcocks mate. ;D
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I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
Me either. I just don't get it.
I know for me, it's not "pressure" per se. I don't feel "pressured" in the hard sell sense of the word. I do sometimes feel bad I can't help the world, though. I try to put myself in their shoes, and sometimes that results in the feeling of "you make all this money, but you can't spare $3.50 for a box of Do-Si-Do's?" and the truth is I probably could, but where do you draw the line?
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I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
Me either. I just don't get it.
I know for me, it's not "pressure" per se. I don't feel "pressured" in the hard sell sense of the word. I do sometimes feel bad I can't help the world, though. I try to put myself in their shoes, and sometimes that results in the feeling of "you make all this money, but you can't spare $3.50 for a box of Do-Si-Do's?" and the truth is I probably could, but where do you draw the line?
Wherever the fuck you want to.
They aren't begging because they are homeless. They are raising funds for their organization, and they will raise them whether you contribute or not. So the only thing that matters is, do you want the cookies or not? If so, stop and get some, and if not, don't. *shrugs*
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I honestly can't wrap my head around feeling pressured by them.
Me either. I just don't get it.
I know for me, it's not "pressure" per se. I don't feel "pressured" in the hard sell sense of the word. I do sometimes feel bad I can't help the world, though. I try to put myself in their shoes, and sometimes that results in the feeling of "you make all this money, but you can't spare $3.50 for a box of Do-Si-Do's?" and the truth is I probably could, but where do you draw the line?
Wherever the fuck you want to.
They aren't begging because they are homeless. They are raising funds for their organization, and they will raise them whether you contribute or not. So the only thing that matters is, do you want the cookies or not? If so, stop and get some, and if not, don't. *shrugs*
No, you're right. I just feel bad. I'm a feeler.
Wait... uh... let me rephrase that.
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I think the conflict comes in that you not only want to help, but you feel kind of obligation...like you were out there fundraising with your own kids yourself, so you know what the parents are going through.
It kind of sucks because a lot of stores are making "canning" even harder, as are a lot of workplaces.
Personally, I hated when the school or some organization put my kids in a position where they had to fundraise and made it a competition among them.
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If you can't understand why people crumble when little girls look you in the eye and ask for help, then there might not be a heart in your body.
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If you can't understand why people crumble when little girls look you in the eye and ask for help, then there might not be a heart in your body.
Look, I'm not a monster. Seriously, if one of them gave me the hard sell there's a very good chance I crumble, too. I've just never associated this with needing help. They've never really seemed to care all that much. Maybe it is crucial and I'm just ignorant, but I never got the impression that if the kids didn't sell enough cookies that the GSA would toss them out on their asses. In truth it always seems like the fundraising is just an excuse to goof off with their friends (which is great, that was me at their age).
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If you can't understand why people crumble when little girls look you in the eye and ask for help, then there might not be a heart in your body.
Look, I'm not a monster. Seriously, if one of them gave me the hard sell there's a very good chance I crumble, too. I've just never associated this with needing help. They've never really seemed to care all that much. Maybe it is crucial and I'm just ignorant, but I never got the impression that if the kids didn't sell enough cookies that the GSA would toss them out on their asses. In truth it always seems like the fundraising is just an excuse to goof off with their friends (which is great, that was me at their age).
I know you aren't, but it's not about how I feel if they need help, it's just the fact it's children asking and they obviously don't know any better so for them, it is asking for help.
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If you can't understand why people crumble when little girls look you in the eye and ask for help, then there might not be a heart in your body.
I'm not heartless, I just already raised two kids and I'm immune to that shit.
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I think its been mentioned here before... but the reply all is driving me crazy today. I have 2 separate email strings right now with this.
1 - there is no need to send a mass email about your last day leaving the company. We don't care.. I've never even met you.
2 - there is no reason to respond back to ALL. WE DONT CARE that you enjoyed working with them.
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I think its been mentioned here before... but the reply all is driving me crazy today. I have 2 separate email strings right now with this.
1 - there is no need to send a mass email about your last day leaving the company. We don't care.. I've never even met you.
2 - there is no reason to respond back to ALL. WE DONT CARE that you enjoyed working with them.
With you 100%.
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My version of that is people who send group messages with an iPhone, and every other iPhone defaults to "reply to all." Ignoring email is a whole lot easier than ignoring your phone. I don't need to be in the loop with every single person who may or may not attend a birthday or funeral. Seriously, how could anybody think setting that as a default was a good idea? Jobs was a fucking sadist.
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I really hate "Reply All" motherfuckers.
That should only be used in specific select circumstances.
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I think its been mentioned here before... but the reply all is driving me crazy today. I have 2 separate email strings right now with this.
1 - there is no need to send a mass email about your last day leaving the company. We don't care.. I've never even met you.
2 - there is no reason to respond back to ALL. WE DONT CARE that you enjoyed working with them.
With you 100%.
Adding to this:
3 - random people responding to all pleading with everyone on distribution to PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO ALL EVERYONE
lol. Every. Single. Time.
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I think its been mentioned here before... but the reply all is driving me crazy today. I have 2 separate email strings right now with this.
1 - there is no need to send a mass email about your last day leaving the company. We don't care.. I've never even met you.
2 - there is no reason to respond back to ALL. WE DONT CARE that you enjoyed working with them.
With you 100%.
Adding to this:
3 - random people responding to all pleading with everyone on distribution to PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO ALL EVERYONE
lol. Every. Single. Time.
PLEASE STOP
ALL
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I think its been mentioned here before... but the reply all is driving me crazy today. I have 2 separate email strings right now with this.
1 - there is no need to send a mass email about your last day leaving the company. We don't care.. I've never even met you.
2 - there is no reason to respond back to ALL. WE DONT CARE that you enjoyed working with them.
With you 100%.
Adding to this:
3 - random people responding to all pleading with everyone on distribution to PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO ALL EVERYONE
lol. Every. Single. Time.
THANKFULLY I haven't seen that one yet, but definitely a great add to the list lol
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My sump pump.
Went into the kitchen to take my morning meds and was confused by a loud buzzing. Tried to figure out what was making the noise and realized it had to be the sump pump in the crawl space. Empty the closet, pull the access panel and go down there. Pump is stuck on. Due to how it was installed there is not much I can do to troubleshoot. It has a lid on it and to get full access to the hole you have to remove the drain pipe.
My Dad and I have talked about trying to proactively replace this but never got around to it. Called him to let him know what was going on and he had wisdom beyond my years. Get a long extension cord. I have a very long industrial strength cord on it's own reel. Ran it down there and had my wife test plugging it in in the kitchen. Works perfectly. My back is saved. Waiting on a call from the plumber now. At least I can get emptying it on my own.
EDIT: and after the third manual emptying via the extension cord it has started working correctly again. Still going to have the plumber take a look. I'm sure I need to get it replaced.
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Well, the company I work for laid off my chain of higher command. My boss's boss, and my boss's boss's boss both got let go this morning. Two guys I've worked under for 10 years. Really sucks. Not surprising considering our new work overlords have been cutting down the company since being acquired, but the first time it has really impacted me. A cost cutting exercise to cut management and re-org. Sucks and I'm sure my time is counting down as well. No immediate fear, my boss says 3 years he thinks he can guarantee for sure, but after that, who knows. Definitely killed my motivation right now though.
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Well, the company I work for laid off my chain of higher command. My boss's boss, and my boss's boss's boss both got let go this morning. Two guys I've worked under for 10 years. Really sucks. Not surprising considering our new work overlords have been cutting down the company since being acquired, but the first time it has really impacted me. A cost cutting exercise to cut management and re-org. Sucks and I'm sure my time is counting down as well. No immediate fear, my boss says 3 years he thinks he can guarantee for sure, but after that, who knows. Definitely killed my motivation right now though.
I suspect you'll want to move on before they actually force the issue. What you'll probably find is that the people who took over probably don't know what they're doing, and they're going to make lots of decisions that don't make sense to you. Particularly when it comes to cutting costs. Things that sound cheaper on paper often aren't, and it's the guys with experience that understand these things. Yet the new people will refuse to hear of such things because they're certain their way is right. It can be pretty frustrating.
Haven't had to deal with this personally, but I've seen it happen with plenty of vendors (who almost always become ex-vendors because of that very phenomenon).
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Well, the company I work for laid off my chain of higher command. My boss's boss, and my boss's boss's boss both got let go this morning. Two guys I've worked under for 10 years. Really sucks. Not surprising considering our new work overlords have been cutting down the company since being acquired, but the first time it has really impacted me. A cost cutting exercise to cut management and re-org. Sucks and I'm sure my time is counting down as well. No immediate fear, my boss says 3 years he thinks he can guarantee for sure, but after that, who knows. Definitely killed my motivation right now though.
I suspect you'll want to move on before they actually force the issue. What you'll probably find is that the people who took over probably don't know what they're doing, and they're going to make lots of decisions that don't make sense to you. Particularly when it comes to cutting costs. Things that sound cheaper on paper often aren't, and it's the guys with experience that understand these things. Yet the new people will refuse to hear of such things because they're certain their way is right. It can be pretty frustrating.
Haven't had to deal with this personally, but I've seen it happen with plenty of vendors (who almost always become ex-vendors because of that very phenomenon).
Yeah, I get what you are saying. My boss also said it could be in our best interest to start looking. I've been saying for awhile now that I should be looking and haven't been, I'm lazy af. But this is a clear sign to get my head out of my ass. What's crazy, this company has record profits and is still squeezing every penny. It honestly makes me not even work here. I've been feeling that for a bit since the buyout, but it's a prestigious company. A company that people typically want to work for, and yet, everything I've ever read abot this company seems to be completely opposite to my experience. I'm still earning very valuable shares so there's a motive to stay. Also, there's a large part of me that would be totally cool getting laid off. I'd probably get 10 months severance package to fuck off and find a new job. I actually think that may be nice as it'll force my lazy ass and give me the time to work on finding a new job.
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Well, the company I work for laid off my chain of higher command. My boss's boss, and my boss's boss's boss both got let go this morning. Two guys I've worked under for 10 years. Really sucks. Not surprising considering our new work overlords have been cutting down the company since being acquired, but the first time it has really impacted me. A cost cutting exercise to cut management and re-org. Sucks and I'm sure my time is counting down as well. No immediate fear, my boss says 3 years he thinks he can guarantee for sure, but after that, who knows. Definitely killed my motivation right now though.
I suspect you'll want to move on before they actually force the issue. What you'll probably find is that the people who took over probably don't know what they're doing, and they're going to make lots of decisions that don't make sense to you. Particularly when it comes to cutting costs. Things that sound cheaper on paper often aren't, and it's the guys with experience that understand these things. Yet the new people will refuse to hear of such things because they're certain their way is right. It can be pretty frustrating.
Haven't had to deal with this personally, but I've seen it happen with plenty of vendors (who almost always become ex-vendors because of that very phenomenon).
From someone that has gone through pretty much this exact situation over the last 2 years, Barto is 100% correct Marc. It obviously depends how invested you are yourself in the company and your work, but when this happened, change in management who had no fucking idea what they were doing and I just watched things dismantle infront of me while I had become powerless.
The last two years has been the worst two years of my life. There's obviously other influences but Barto is right, nine times out of ten, these situations tend to go in directions that you will never understand. Start looking and get on the front foot. Definitely DON'T let it get to the point where they have to finally make the decision for you. It's hard as fuck, trust me, but start thinking one step ahead.
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Well, the company I work for laid off my chain of higher command. My boss's boss, and my boss's boss's boss both got let go this morning. Two guys I've worked under for 10 years. Really sucks. Not surprising considering our new work overlords have been cutting down the company since being acquired, but the first time it has really impacted me. A cost cutting exercise to cut management and re-org. Sucks and I'm sure my time is counting down as well. No immediate fear, my boss says 3 years he thinks he can guarantee for sure, but after that, who knows. Definitely killed my motivation right now though.
I suspect you'll want to move on before they actually force the issue. What you'll probably find is that the people who took over probably don't know what they're doing, and they're going to make lots of decisions that don't make sense to you. Particularly when it comes to cutting costs. Things that sound cheaper on paper often aren't, and it's the guys with experience that understand these things. Yet the new people will refuse to hear of such things because they're certain their way is right. It can be pretty frustrating.
Haven't had to deal with this personally, but I've seen it happen with plenty of vendors (who almost always become ex-vendors because of that very phenomenon).
Yeah, I get what you are saying. My boss also said it could be in our best interest to start looking. I've been saying for awhile now that I should be looking and haven't been, I'm lazy af. But this is a clear sign to get my head out of my ass. What's crazy, this company has record profits and is still squeezing every penny. It honestly makes me not even work here. I've been feeling that for a bit since the buyout, but it's a prestigious company. A company that people typically want to work for, and yet, everything I've ever read abot this company seems to be completely opposite to my experience. I'm still earning very valuable shares so there's a motive to stay. Also, there's a large part of me that would be totally cool getting laid off. I'd probably get 10 months severance package to fuck off and find a new job. I actually think that may be nice as it'll force my lazy ass and give me the time to work on finding a new job.
If you can deal with things changing and work with it in the interim and you think a severance package would be better for you, than certainly hang in there and asses the situation as you go along, just be prepared to jump before they push you. Also, keep your nose completely clean. You seem like that type anyway but you don't want them to FIND ways to fuck you off earlier or have anything on you that could taint your reputation going into another role. Yes, this shit happens, trust me.
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I know the profession I chose to get a degree in. I like it most days. Not much regrets.
But teaching teenagers is sometimes a very big drain, and today was such a day. Didn't help to have a meeting before school, lunch duty, and I helped a colleague get her class covered during my planning period. But the kids are definitely pushing every envelope when I just want to help them get through the stuff they need before they test big in May.
It'll get better but fuck, take a chill pill, kids.
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I know the profession I chose to get a degree in. I like it most days. Not much regrets.
But teaching teenagers is sometimes a very big drain, and today was such a day. Didn't help to have a meeting before school, lunch duty, and I helped a colleague get her class covered during my planning period. But the kids are definitely pushing every envelope when I just want to help them get through the stuff they need before they test big in May.
It'll get better but fuck, take a chill pill, kids.
I feel bad for teachers. Parents blame them. kids blame them. And the administration will not back them.
There's been nothing in the last 35 years to make your job easier. EVERYTHING makes it more difficult.
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Amen. I love my principal, but he recently said he is not changing anything about he does discipline. Which felt like a bit of a punch to the gut because the behaviors at my school are only worsening. Luckily I am a big guy and sometimes that is enough to scare the kids (their words, not mine).
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Amen. I love my principal, but he recently said he is not changing anything about he does discipline. Which felt like a bit of a punch to the gut because the behaviors at my school are only worsening. Luckily I am a big guy and sometimes that is enough to scare the kids (their words, not mine).
All you need to do is scare the wrong kid with the wrong parent, and just watch how your principal disciplines...
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:lol
He always has my back, my kids consistently pass those big tests (I have a 94% pass rate most years). He tells any kids I send him that they must be in big trouble if Mr. Jamesman42 had to send them up.
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:lol
He always has my back, my kids consistently pass those big tests (I have a 94% pass rate most years). He tells any kids I send him that they must be in big trouble if Mr. Jamesman42 had to send them up.
Good for you. That's awesome!
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It's a little school and 7 years there, I do love it and have been there the 3rd longest, even more than my principal.
Covid did a lot to shake things up, and the kids I have now were in 3rd or 4th grade when it happened. The behaviors are mostly the same pre-Covid, but there also seems to be much more learned helplessness and parents backing that up.
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Well, the company I work for laid off my chain of higher command. My boss's boss, and my boss's boss's boss both got let go this morning. Two guys I've worked under for 10 years. Really sucks. Not surprising considering our new work overlords have been cutting down the company since being acquired, but the first time it has really impacted me. A cost cutting exercise to cut management and re-org. Sucks and I'm sure my time is counting down as well. No immediate fear, my boss says 3 years he thinks he can guarantee for sure, but after that, who knows. Definitely killed my motivation right now though.
We have been going through this but we were told it wouldn't effect us much. They did let our Director go but on Friday our Manager told us she is being let go and they are dissolving our group. We are getting separated and spread out to different managers and directors. None of us are sure how that will work as we are all the developers/admins for what is the third most important app in our organization. We are a tight team that works incredibly well together and they are breaking us up. The thing is, there is no way we can stop working together but now we might have to go through other managers just to work together. Friday was somber and we are both sad and very pissed. The contract is coming up for our app soon and no one that has ever sat in on talks before will be here for the new contract. The new bosses have shown their idiocy by asking the most stupid questions about our app that shows they have no idea what they are doing.
My job went from being in pretty much the best place it has ever been to probably the worst. They destroyed our morale.
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Good luck with that. At least you still have a job. Hopefully it lasts beyond the next negotiation.
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capitalism ruins everything. usually good jobs. so it goes
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My job went from being in pretty much the best place it has ever been to probably the worst. They destroyed our morale.
That definitely sucks and I know all too well. As Tim mentioned, I think these days just look to the fact you still have a job I guess. Saying all that, your situation probably isn't going to get better either, just worse and worse. If your morale and motivation is that bad, start thinking about exiting.
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capitalism ruins everything. usually good jobs. so it goes
Except that it doesn't. But, "opinions".
The three worst things that have ever happened to me in a work environment were directly attributable to NON capitalism measures (including the one time I've ever been laid off, over a combination of impacts from the pending Obamacare and promised heavy environmental regulation.)
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capitalism ruins everything. usually good jobs. so it goes
Except that it doesn't. But, "opinions".
The three worst things that have ever happened to me in a work environment were directly attributable to NON capitalism measures (including the one time I've ever been laid off, over a combination of impacts from the pending Obamacare and promised heavy environmental regulation.)
My entire work situation also was the exact opposite of 'capitalism.'
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capitalism ruins everything. usually good jobs. so it goes
Don't most jobs exist in the first place because of capitalism?
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Jobs exist because of the market requires labour to fulfil a need. Capitalist ideologues would have you believe that the capitalist system is the only one capable of regulating both labour and the needs of the market efficiently.
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Jobs exist because of the market requires labour to fulfil a need. Capitalist ideologues would have you believe that the capitalist system is the only one capable of regulating both labour and the needs of the market efficiently.
"...would have you believe"? Don't make it out like it's some voodoo pseudo-science. It's one approach to handling the concept of market forces. There are, of course, others, and variations in between. I don't think there is any perfect system, plusses and minuses to all of them, but I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
You're right, sorry.
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
Agreed.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
I agree with that.
I mean, I have a sort of real politik view of things. Greed; there is "greed" in so much of what we do in one form or another. I think the the feelings that feed greed are the same that feed road rage or the asshole that waits until they stand in front of the order taker at McDonald's to look at the menu and decide what he wants. Never going to get rid of it. So we trade off; I think capilitalism has led to so many great endeavors and developments, from the advancements in computers, to travel, to medicine... and if we have to live with a company price gouging on, say, coffee, well, we'll live as a society. For those things that simply matter too much, like healthcare, well, I'm for single payer. Yes, it goes against every fibre of my being - libertarian, capitalist - but I'm also a PRAGMATIST and it's the quickest way to get to win with the least amount of bodies in the closet.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
You're right, sorry.
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
Agreed.
I neglected to mention our reverence for it, which is also a massive problem. It's great enough that we assail and even ridicule other ways of doing things. Socialist medicine. The Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. As with so many other things, it's our American arrogance that really mucks things up, as well as our ability to push things to the extremes.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
I agree with that.
I mean, I have a sort of real politik view of things. Greed; there is "greed" in so much of what we do in one form or another. I think the the feelings that feed greed are the same that feed road rage or the asshole that waits until they stand in front of the order taker at McDonald's to look at the menu and decide what he wants. Never going to get rid of it. So we trade off; I think capilitalism has led to so many great endeavors and developments, from the advancements in computers, to travel, to medicine... and if we have to live with a company price gouging on, say, coffee, well, we'll live as a society. For those things that simply matter too much, like healthcare, well, I'm for single payer. Yes, it goes against every fibre of my being - libertarian, capitalist - but I'm also a PRAGMATIST and it's the quickest way to get to win with the least amount of bodies in the closet.
Yeah, that's certainly fair, and I mostly agree with you (and figured this would be the case).
Out of curiosity, was the Apollo program capitalistic? That led to a tremendous number of advances and developments.
In any case, I think the problem is that the greed we're talking about applies to your next door neighbor as much as it does the C suite of Raytheon. There's a constant need to keep finding bigger and better ways to make money, so we keep inventing them. Middle men were none are needed. It's not the price gouging on coffee, it's the need to have an intermediary coffee broker insert himself into the model so he can get a few cents for himself. If I invent a better widget, I can patent it, pay to have it produced, and then sell it for a nice profit. Twenty years from now the cost of that widget will be far, far greater than what you could expect from basic inflation. Consumers will be paying for distributors. They'd be paying for the transportation to the distributors. They'd be paying for the guy who sells his transportation service to the distributor. They'd be paying for the leggy blond sales reps and the catered meals that convince people to sell their widget. It goes on and on.
In any case, as for the example at hand, the problem is that some venture capitalists have decided that it's worth gambling on whether or not they can squeeze a few more pennies from an existing business, and Cram/Peart are the fodder. Maybe they can and maybe they can't. Given the unfamiliarity with the business they get into it really is a toss up, as they're describing. Capitalism and greed turn the livelihoods of normal people, who weren't invited into the game, into poker chips.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
That's a beautiful way to put it.
Genuine philosophical question here, not a partisan one: is such promotion/representation of human nature's best and worst qualities a trait due to capitalism's inherent features or a byproduct of its dogmatisation?
Do not a lot of ideas and or systems, once they become ideologies and beliefs and get elevated to dogmas, tend to promote and represent both the best and worst qualities of human nature?
Political systems, religions, football, rock music ...
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
That's a beautiful way to put it.
Genuine philosophical question here, not a partisan one: is such promotion/representation of human nature's best and worst qualities a trait due to capitalism's inherent features or a byproduct of its dogmatisation?
Do not a lot of ideas and or systems, once they become ideologies and beliefs and get elevated to dogmas, tend to promote and represent both the best and worst qualities of human nature?
Political systems, religions, football, rock music ...
I'm going to go with a third option. I think it's a human element. Partly because greed is an important component of the human psyche, and partly because we've created a world where capitalistic success is a necessity for survival. The reality of life here in these United States is that if you're not making an ever increasing amount of money you're going to die while living in a tent under an overpass. Survival tends to bring out the worst in people. As for bringing out the best in people, I think that's merely a byproduct.
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Thank you!
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
I agree with that.
I mean, I have a sort of real politik view of things. Greed; there is "greed" in so much of what we do in one form or another. I think the the feelings that feed greed are the same that feed road rage or the asshole that waits until they stand in front of the order taker at McDonald's to look at the menu and decide what he wants. Never going to get rid of it. So we trade off; I think capilitalism has led to so many great endeavors and developments, from the advancements in computers, to travel, to medicine... and if we have to live with a company price gouging on, say, coffee, well, we'll live as a society. For those things that simply matter too much, like healthcare, well, I'm for single payer. Yes, it goes against every fibre of my being - libertarian, capitalist - but I'm also a PRAGMATIST and it's the quickest way to get to win with the least amount of bodies in the closet.
Yeah, that's certainly fair, and I mostly agree with you (and figured this would be the case).
Out of curiosity, was the Apollo program capitalistic? That led to a tremendous number of advances and developments.
I think it's a combination of things; I think tactically, the Apollo program was a government program, but I think the capitalist nature of the private firms doing the work, and the funding that went into it based on the burgeoning military/industrial complex did a lot to fuel it. Let's put it this way; other countries pursued those avenues and weren't - overall - as successful as we were, and I think the difference was the capitalist base of our society and government.
In any case, I think the problem is that the greed we're talking about applies to your next door neighbor as much as it does the C suite of Raytheon. There's a constant need to keep finding bigger and better ways to make money, so we keep inventing them. Middle men were none are needed. It's not the price gouging on coffee, it's the need to have an intermediary coffee broker insert himself into the model so he can get a few cents for himself. If I invent a better widget, I can patent it, pay to have it produced, and then sell it for a nice profit. Twenty years from now the cost of that widget will be far, far greater than what you could expect from basic inflation. Consumers will be paying for distributors. They'd be paying for the transportation to the distributors. They'd be paying for the guy who sells his transportation service to the distributor. They'd be paying for the leggy blond sales reps and the catered meals that convince people to sell their widget. It goes on and on.
In any case, as for the example at hand, the problem is that some venture capitalists have decided that it's worth gambling on whether or not they can squeeze a few more pennies from an existing business, and Cram/Peart are the fodder. Maybe they can and maybe they can't. Given the unfamiliarity with the business they get into it really is a toss up, as they're describing. Capitalism and greed turn the livelihoods of normal people, who weren't invited into the game, into poker chips.
Well, there's a lot there, but I agree, and that was the impetus of the reference to road rage and Mickey D's. Those are not corporate things, those are interpersonal things. I think to a degree, the "transaction costs" that you reference are part and parcel with the system and a form of social welfare. Yeah, you are paying more, but you pay that, and it goes directly to the middle man, or you pay taxes and it goes to the government for redistribution. You'll notice I never rag on "the socialists" as a concept; I do rag on the connect of "government doing everything for us". I wanted to punch my television when I heard that quite from Michelle Obama a couple weeks ago: ‘Oh my God, does government do everything for us, and we cannot take this democracy for granted. (https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/politics/michelle-obama-2024-potential-election-outcome/index.html)’ that was an anathema to every part of my core philosophy (and made worse that she was "terrified". :) :) :)).
I think the one of the benefits - but also one of the drawbacks - of that system, the system of the middle man, is that it's less controllable. It can't be gamed for political benefit - a benefit - but it can't be targeted for those really in need - a drawback. But it's part of the system, and part of why it works, much like the built-in bureaucracy in our government. It's not SUPPOSED to move at the speed of social media; it's MEANT to be deliberate and contemplative. A good idea today, if it really is a good idea, will still be a good idea tomorrow or next Tuesday.
You know, look; you're talking about my friends now, and being clinical and objective doesn't always work there. I want Prof and Cram to find a path forward at their jobs, and it sucks that they might bear the brunt of someone else's business decision. But speaking broadly, I've been bought/sold now at least three times now in my career and it blows. It does. But "changes aren't permanent, only change is". Small consolation, but whether it's a market change, or a private equity change or something else, how do you stop it? One can only really accept it, and try to use every opportunity to come out better. I do get it; circumstances sometimes control; I've moved a lot in my life, and left jobs when they didn't work for me, but I'm in a spot now that I cannot move. I just can't. And just changing jobs isn't in the cards. It's precarious. But if it happens, we figure it out.
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I do believe that capitalism best represents (and promotes) the best qualities of human nature.
Unfortunately, it also best represents the worst qualities of human nature.
(And promotes)
Stadler hasn't said it, but I think he'd agree that it's the best system we can hope for, but that's honestly not saying much. It's like Churchill and democracy. The problem is that we insist on being so dogmatic about it, rather than simply applying the best system for the matter at hand.
That's a beautiful way to put it.
Genuine philosophical question here, not a partisan one: is such promotion/representation of human nature's best and worst qualities a trait due to capitalism's inherent features or a byproduct of its dogmatisation?
Do not a lot of ideas and or systems, once they become ideologies and beliefs and get elevated to dogmas, tend to promote and represent both the best and worst qualities of human nature?
Political systems, religions, football, rock music ...
I'm going to go with a third option. I think it's a human element. Partly because greed is an important component of the human psyche, and partly because we've created a world where capitalistic success is a necessity for survival. The reality of life here in these United States is that if you're not making an ever increasing amount of money you're going to die while living in a tent under an overpass. Survival tends to bring out the worst in people. As for bringing out the best in people, I think that's merely a byproduct.
I'm going to push back gently here. This may be a mindset thing, but I don't think the "worst in people" is the default, and the "best in people" is a "byproduct". "Capitalistic success" - and it depends on how you define that - isn't necessarily a necessity for survival. We live in a materialistic society that has led many people to think that a 70" big screen is necessary for survival. A 100 subscriptions to Netflix is necessary for survival. Maybe it is, from a quality of life scenario, I don't know.
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i apologize for veering the thread so far off course with my p/r post. i accept my punishment
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i apologize for veering the thread so far off course with my p/r post. i accept my punishment
Sing F# and post it. Lol
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i apologize for veering the thread so far off course with my p/r post. i accept my punishment
Sing F# and post it. Lol
That only punishes us.
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i apologize for veering the thread so far off course with my p/r post. i accept my punishment
Sing F# and post it. Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0793ty7xYbw
26 of my hottest takes
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i apologize for veering the thread so far off course with my p/r post. i accept my punishment
Sing F# and post it. Lol
That only punishes us.
:lol
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:lol
He got you that time Joe!!
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It's funny but I like seeing people suffer so I'd rather see him try it. :lol
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It's funny but I like seeing people suffer so I'd rather see him try it. :lol
You monster.
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Awe yeah.
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Being called a troll for asking what people would think if Devin Townsend joined Dream Theater
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Attention seekers.
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Seems I brought some COVID back with me from California. What a bummer. Thankfully I got a booster not so terribly long ago, along with a flu shot, so hopefully this won't be so terrible. Oh, and I burned through the end of my PTO on that trip, so this will cost me some pay. Lastly, I'll probably wind up eating the ticket for the local Haken show tomorrow night.
Like I said, what a bummer.
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Seems I brought some COVID back with me from California. What a bummer. Thankfully I got a booster not so terribly long ago, along with a flu shot, so hopefully this won't be so terrible. Oh, and I burned through the end of my PTO on that trip, so this will cost me some pay. Lastly, I'll probably wind up eating the ticket for the local Haken show tomorrow night.
Like I said, what a bummer.
Sorry to hear that, brother. Any symptoms?
The CDC is supposed updating their guidelines for return to work (effective on April 1) so that maybe something to look into.
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Seems I brought some COVID back with me from California. What a bummer. Thankfully I got a booster not so terribly long ago, along with a flu shot, so hopefully this won't be so terrible. Oh, and I burned through the end of my PTO on that trip, so this will cost me some pay. Lastly, I'll probably wind up eating the ticket for the local Haken show tomorrow night.
Like I said, what a bummer.
Feel better, that blows. But it's also only february and you used up your PTO? Maybe your company does it differently, but that sucks maybe worse than just being sick in that it's going to hurt the wallet beyond eating a concert ticket. Sorry.
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Feel better good sir.
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Seems I brought some COVID back with me from California. What a bummer. Thankfully I got a booster not so terribly long ago, along with a flu shot, so hopefully this won't be so terrible. Oh, and I burned through the end of my PTO on that trip, so this will cost me some pay. Lastly, I'll probably wind up eating the ticket for the local Haken show tomorrow night.
Like I said, what a bummer.
Sorry to hear that, brother. Any symptoms?
The CDC is supposed updating their guidelines for return to work (effective on April 1) so that maybe something to look into.
Cold symptoms and fever, so far.
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Seems I brought some COVID back with me from California. What a bummer. Thankfully I got a booster not so terribly long ago, along with a flu shot, so hopefully this won't be so terrible. Oh, and I burned through the end of my PTO on that trip, so this will cost me some pay. Lastly, I'll probably wind up eating the ticket for the local Haken show tomorrow night.
Like I said, what a bummer.
Feel better, that blows. But it's also only february and you used up your PTO? Maybe your company does it differently, but that sucks maybe worse than just being sick in that it's going to hurt the wallet beyond eating a concert ticket. Sorry.
Date of hire. Mine actually renews in 10 days, and they'd likely let me dip into it early. For personal reasons I might prefer to just eat a couple of days, though. This is actually the first time I've been without in many years. I've had a huge stockpile, but 10 day trips the last two years, plus smaller trips and "shit happens" has burned through it.
As for the ticket, a funny thing happened. My concert buddy designated ticket purchasing responsibility to a friend of his, who did a peculiar thing. He bought insurance for all the tickets, which is something nobody ever does. We actually laughed about it at the time. There's a good chance I get reimbursed. Probably a good chance I don't, too. Those policies have a lot of loopholes and red tape.
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Interesting, never bought the ticket insurance. Hopefully it works out.
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Small 'first world problem' rant......that ends up being not that big a deal it's just a PITA
So my company (Siemens Healthineers) has decided that in an effort to reduce 'our' carbon footprint.....they will be moving company provided vehicles to all EV's. As one of their Project Managers that oversees the installs of MRIs, CTs, Rad. Equipment....etc etc.....I can and have driven upwards of 500-700 miles a day when making site visits so you can imagine the push back and disappointment us Project Managers made do to an already long day of driving that can and will get longer in order to charge the EV's.
Our company provided cars now are largely Hybrid engine, I currently drive a Toyota RAV 4 Hybrid, so we all were just like.... can't we continue to drive the Hybrids? But that was shut down. What they did offer is that if we don't want to stick with the company provided option, they would reimburse us if we were to use a personal vehicle. It would be an averaged reimbursement for taxes, insurance and car payment plus a small .15 cent a mile reimbursement for business miles driven. The vehicle would also have to stay in compliance by always being a model year within the current 'window'...with the window now going from 24'-28'. So, I'd have to get a 2023- or 2024-year vehicle which is something I really don't want to spend the $$$ to do. Right now, with them paying for the gas, insurance and vehicle it's saving me literally close to $1k a month between all that plus having no car payment... with this reimbursement offer for personal vehicles, I'd probably end up taking a couple hundred dollar a month hit which makes it less appealing to enter into.
For me, my largest issue with the whole switch is my furthest and most frequent long-range drive is to Kansas City....from my house it's about 4 hours....275 miles-ish to then visit my project locations. I do a lot of out and back in a day trips to KC because I coach and have crap to do outside of work. So I get up at 4:00am....drive to KC.....do my site visits....then come home. Long ass day but I'd get home by 5-6pm and still be able to run a hockey practice, go coach a game or get to one of the boys school concerts or whatever is on the slate for that night.
Adding charging time to that trip just makes it a massive pain in the ass and all but eliminates my 'out and back' regiment and I lamented this to my boss. To which he said, if and when I need to do that to just rent a car on the company dime. Him telling me that ended my whining about the whole thing because that solved my largest issue. Now, if it's not necessary for an out and back I just stay the night and charge the EV as needed.
So, I went to test drive the two Tesla models they are letting us choose from 2024 Long Range Model Y's and Model 3's. Drove the Model Y first because it has a bit more space and I was thinking of needing to load crap in and what not I'd probably prefer the space....but then I drove the Model 3 and that pretty much sealed the deal. So smooth, cabin was freaking quiet.....those 14 speakers were amazing....I was blasting 'Voices' and it was unreal....freaking concert in the car.
All the technology was just 'neat' but that regenerative braking was weird to get used to but really cool. I didn't mind the bare look of the dashboard and all in all it was a relief to drive them and experience them. Very easy drive. So, I ended up choosing the 2024 Long Range Model 3. Really liked the way that the navigation charts your path for you that shows where and when you'd need to charge as well. I thought that was going to be a pain in the ass trying to figure all that out but it's all done for you...so...another worry eliminated.
They're paying for the Tier Two Home Charger, electrician to install it, reimbursed Kw hours when you charge at home, charge card for all the Tesla charging stations....and, it's a company vehicle so all the insurance and what not is through them. Should be getting the vehicle sometime mid-summer. I went from holding a pitchfork and ready to storm the castle when this was announced to now refreshing the order status on our company site to see when the hell this car is going to get here! It can't be soon enough!
Anyone drive a Tesla and have any advice, warnings, good/bad stories or experiences?
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Seems I brought some COVID back with me from California. What a bummer. Thankfully I got a booster not so terribly long ago, along with a flu shot, so hopefully this won't be so terrible. Oh, and I burned through the end of my PTO on that trip, so this will cost me some pay. Lastly, I'll probably wind up eating the ticket for the local Haken show tomorrow night.
Like I said, what a bummer.
Damn man! I hope you have a quick recovery!!!
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Hard to relate Gary, the moment you said company provided car the complaints just don't seem so bad. Sure though, the change sucks, the why might suck even more since I question how great for the earth the batteries are, and charging will also suck for those long ass drives. But getting a free tesla and free home installation? Mostly sounds like a huge positive. One of my big "car guy" friends just got a tesla too, he's loving it. I think they are great cars. I question the batteries, but I don't doubt them being good vehicles.
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Hard to relate Gary, the moment you said company provided car the complaints just don't seem so bad. Sure though, the change sucks, the why might suck even more since I question how great for the earth the batteries are, and charging will also suck for those long ass drives. But getting a free tesla and free home installation? Mostly sounds like a huge positive. One of my big "car guy" friends just got a tesla too, he's loving it. I think they are great cars. I question the batteries, but I don't doubt them being good vehicles.
I know....it truly isn't a 'problem' to the degree of it being something that is a massive issue. It's the inconvenience of now some of these longer days I spend driving from site to site being longer due to needing to charge or just having to spend the night at a hotel when before I could get home. Again, as I said....first world "problem" for sure but it's just the change of the way I'll now have to approach planning these site visits that 'sucks'.
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I don't know. It sounds to me like Gary is prioritizing the correct things, being home, coaching the youth, etc.. I'm glad his employer accommodated him.
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My wife and I own and live in a four buildings compound: one of those is a flat building (garage downstairs, rehearsals room upstairs) whose large roof we have covered with solar panels ten years ago; these panels feed the whole compound's energy system (our house, mother-in-law's house, daughter's house) for a considerable deal, and in the past (when the daughter was in uni) we've even been able to sell a bit of surplus back. Everything is sorrounded by a bit of land hosting nice trees, which my wife adores; she hugs them and talks with them sometimes. Call her crazy (she married me, after all), but it's a thing I definitely love in her, one of the 100 reasons for she is an infinitely better person than I am.
We've had some problems with both the wireless system monitoring control and the feeding system itself lately, and today it turned out our young oak is not so young anymore and it's blocking a big area of the panel structure with its branches. The technician bluntly said: "you either cut the tree (pruning the excessive lenght and branches would equal death for the plant, another specialist said) or move (and rebuild) the entire system on top of another building. To sum it up, in order to protect an investment made for exquisite enviromental concerns, we have to cut a tree.
My wife is literally crying (and tomorrow is her focking birthday) at the thought of killing a "friend", I am figuratively crying at the thought of paying for the humongous work the alternative involves, both are pissed at what will probably happen: save the tree, sell the panels.
Apologies for the long rant, but I feel mocked by the irony of it all.
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Doesn't sound like it'd address the issue, but you might consider a two for one deal. Chop the tree down and replace it with two saplings (which would take decades to become a nuisance to you).
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I'd take down the tree, plant a few more if it makes you feel better. Hopefully the cut tree gets put to good use with the wood. You are trying to make use of solar panels. I don't know if one negative towards the environment makes the positive of the solar panels OK or not, but it doesn't sound like you want to kill the tree for the sake of it. Of course maybe the tree adds some benefit in its look that you really want to conserve. Or maybe the cost of moving the panels isn't too bad compared to taking down a tree, but it sounds like the tree going may be the better option.
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I am partial to cutting the tree as well, just feeling awful for my wife. I also thought planting a new one was a given if not a consolation, but after some tactful dinner talk, it turns out a sapling would be actually her daughter's call, since she will be the one eventually facing the same problem once again decades from now.
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After you cut the tree down, you could have a nice table built with the trunk or something like that. Maybe try and do it on the down low and then amaze her with a wonderful gift,.
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That's pretty thoughtful, and it would certainly amaze her since I seldom are*. She seems on the verge of resigning to the inevitable, in fact she's actually more pissed she's getting a year older at the moment.
*That tree is so gonna feed the fireplace.
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That's pretty thoughtful, and it would certainly amaze her since I seldom are*. She seems on the verge of resigning to the inevitable, in fact she's actually more pissed she's getting a year older at the moment.
So probably not a good time to point out that the tree is not. ;D
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You almost tempted me, then I thought I want to get a year older myself.
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Shitty situation mate either way. Unfortunately, it seems you have no real choice. Tim's idea is very nice, or with it meaning that much to her, what about keeping a big chunk of the trunk or a thick branch and putting a little plaque or something on it and putting it on the mantle. That way she'll aways have a piece of it around.
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Leave the stump. Lacquer it. Build a garden around it and it's a centerpiece where you can put anything on it, depending on the season.
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Knowing her, a stump for the cats to whet their their claws could make her happy; knowing me, a piece of wood in the living room could absent-mindedly end right into the big wood stove.
Tomorrow I'm taking her to lunch and we'll take a decision. She's a bit emotional, still she's 59 and has seen worse.
I really appreciate everybody who's taken the time to throw me a word.
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Knowing her, a stump for the cats to whet their their claws could make her happy; knowing me, a piece of wood in the living room could absent-mindedly end right into the big wood stove.
Tomorrow I'm taking her to lunch and we'll take a decision. She's a bit emotional, still she's 59 and has seen worse.
I really appreciate everybody who's taken the time to throw me a word.
:lol Or even in a fancy glass box with a nice plaque and certificate or authenticity and shit like that. Females like that kind of fancy shit.
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Me, I'd throw the cat in the wood stove..
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Me, I'd throw the cat in the wood stove..
I would snap your neck over this.
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Me, I'd throw the cat in the wood stove..
:lol
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What's with the cats, Tim?
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They're fucking beasts that would surely kill you if they thought they could, and still eat.
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They're fucking beasts that would surely kill you if they thought they could, and still eat.
Only pussies die by a cats, paw. :lol
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You are definitely a zebra pussy.
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You're a bully. Just like a cat.
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Cats are not bullies. Owners who don't like cats are. They feed off the dislike.
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They're fucking beasts that would surely kill you if they thought they could, and still eat.
As much as I want to give you some shit, you may be right here :lol apparently if you die in your home with your cat and no one notices, the cat likely will eat you. A dog likely won't.
But cats are awesome, having to earn affection is not the worst thing in the world especially once its earned.
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My wife and I own and live in a four buildings compound: one of those is a flat building (garage downstairs, rehearsals room upstairs) whose large roof we have covered with solar panels ten years ago; these panels feed the whole compound's energy system (our house, mother-in-law's house, daughter's house) for a considerable deal, and in the past (when the daughter was in uni) we've even been able to sell a bit of surplus back. Everything is sorrounded by a bit of land hosting nice trees, which my wife adores; she hugs them and talks with them sometimes. Call her crazy (she married me, after all), but it's a thing I definitely love in her, one of the 100 reasons for she is an infinitely better person than I am.
We've had some problems with both the wireless system monitoring control and the feeding system itself lately, and today it turned out our young oak is not so young anymore and it's blocking a big area of the panel structure with its branches. The technician bluntly said: "you either cut the tree (pruning the excessive lenght and branches would equal death for the plant, another specialist said) or move (and rebuild) the entire system on top of another building. To sum it up, in order to protect an investment made for exquisite enviromental concerns, we have to cut a tree.
My wife is literally crying (and tomorrow is her focking birthday) at the thought of killing a "friend", I am figuratively crying at the thought of paying for the humongous work the alternative involves, both are pissed at what will probably happen: save the tree, sell the panels.
Apologies for the long rant, but I feel mocked by the irony of it all.
Late to the party, but Happy Birthday to your wife.
I think turning the tree into a table or chair might be the best thing to do.
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We had a birthday lunch and we opted for the most rational decision, i.e. cutting. Once we were back home, she went to the tree, spoke a few words like she's focking Bran Stark, and turned away. When I timidly proposed: "you know, I could make something from the wood", the answer was : "Nah, leave it be. It's ok".
Which leads me to:
They're fucking beasts that would surely kill you if they thought they could, and still eat.
For a moment I thought the subject had moved from my wife.
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:lol glad you two figured it out
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They're fucking beasts that would surely kill you if they thought they could, and still eat.
As much as I want to give you some shit, you may be right here :lol apparently if you die in your home with your cat and no one notices, the cat likely will eat you. A dog likely won't.
Yet a cat won't eat you while you're alive but dogs might.
Also, both depend on the time frame. If no one notices for long enough the dogs will become starved and they'll absolutely eat you.
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Great! Enjoy your pets, people!!!
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Yet a cat won't eat you while you're alive but dogs might.
Interestingly enough though....once you croak cats will eat all your soft tissue off your face....while, when you're found dogs are just sitting there all loyal by your side starving to death.
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Yet a cat won't eat you while you're alive but dogs might.
Interestingly enough though....once you croak cats will eat all your soft tissue off your face....while, when you're found dogs are just sitting there all loyal by your side starving to death.
Yeah, see, I'm calling that another mark in favour of cats.
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Yet a cat won't eat you while you're alive but dogs might.
Interestingly enough though....once you croak cats will eat all your soft tissue off your face....while, when you're found dogs are just sitting there all loyal by your side starving to death.
Yeah, see, I'm calling that another mark in favour of cats.
I found myself on a rabbit hole of vid watching 'domesticated' cats hunting birds and small rodents last night. So cool and fascinating. It reminded me of a special that Discovery channel ran a few years back when it basically said 'domesticated' cats aren't really domesticated. They just tolerate humans because we're a constant source of shelter and food.
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Yet a cat won't eat you while you're alive but dogs might.
Interestingly enough though....once you croak cats will eat all your soft tissue off your face....while, when you're found dogs are just sitting there all loyal by your side starving to death.
Yeah, see, I'm calling that another mark in favour of cats.
I found myself on a rabbit hole of vid watching 'domesticated' cats hunting birds and small rodents last night. So cool and fascinating. It reminded me of a special that Discovery channel ran a few years back when it basically said 'domesticated' cats aren't really domesticated. They just tolerate humans because we're a constant source of shelter and food.
Bingo!!!!
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That's another positive for cats, keep the rodents out of your house. Not that I have a rodent problem, but surprisingly my fat lazy cat did kill a mouse in my basement once before. Also, more to my situation, he also takes care of any of the centipedes that get into my home.
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Cats have entered our homes millennia ago, and we befriended them; some say the impetus was theirs, as they use "meaow" only with us, in an attempt to mimic our vowel laden languages, and the relationship seems to be "you seem to draw joy from my presence, the least you can do is feed and shelter me". I'm not sure "domesticated" does it justice, as to me it implies a sort of subordination.
Independent, clean, discrete, loyal to their personality: it seems a pretty good model of living for humans as well.
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Cats have entered our homes millennia ago, and we befriended them; some say the impetus was theirs, as they use "meaow" only with us, in an attempt to mimic our vowel laden languages, and the relationship seems to be "you seem to draw joy from my presence, the least you can do is feed and shelter me". I'm not sure "domesticated" does it justice, as to me it implies a sort of subordination.
Independent, clean, discrete, loyal to their personality: it seems a pretty good model of living for humans as well.
I grew up with having cats....we had a LOT of them. My mom loved and still loves them. I like them and think they're awesome animals but we've never owned one as a pet. I personally think they're outdoor pets and will wait until we eventually get some property to then get a few to let run around. But won't ever have one as an 'in house' pet for a few reasons. But, I do like them.
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I fucking hate cats, but hey, if you like them,
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That's another positive for cats, keep the rodents out of your house. Not that I have a rodent problem, but surprisingly my fat lazy cat did kill a mouse in my basement once before. Also, more to my situation, he also takes care of any of the centipedes that get into my home.
I read somewhere that Disney lets cats roam it's parks at night to rid the place of rodents. Being serious (though I can't verify it's true).
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That's another positive for cats, keep the rodents out of your house. Not that I have a rodent problem, but surprisingly my fat lazy cat did kill a mouse in my basement once before. Also, more to my situation, he also takes care of any of the centipedes that get into my home.
I read somewhere that Disney lets cats roam it's parks at night to rid the place of rodents. Being serious (though I can't verify it's true).
Wouldn't be surprised. It's fairly common for cats to be in farms to deal with the pests.
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That's another positive for cats, keep the rodents out of your house. Not that I have a rodent problem, but surprisingly my fat lazy cat did kill a mouse in my basement once before. Also, more to my situation, he also takes care of any of the centipedes that get into my home.
I read somewhere that Disney lets cats roam it's parks at night to rid the place of rodents. Being serious (though I can't verify it's true).
This is what we look like to cats.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1a/15/d8/1a15d8815c7438436eefcd24aa97de63--rats-fancy-dress.jpg)
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Yes, I know Disneyland has a colony of cats they take care of. They're all fixed, so no kittens! We even saw one while we were there last year.
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Yet a cat won't eat you while you're alive but dogs might.
Interestingly enough though....once you croak cats will eat all your soft tissue off your face....while, when you're found dogs are just sitting there all loyal by your side starving to death.
Yeah, see, I'm calling that another mark in favour of cats.
I found myself on a rabbit hole of vid watching 'domesticated' cats hunting birds and small rodents last night. So cool and fascinating. It reminded me of a special that Discovery channel ran a few years back when it basically said 'domesticated' cats aren't really domesticated. They just tolerate humans because we're a constant source of shelter and food.
I've never had a cat growing up and wasn't really fond of them until I met my wife who had one. That cat really changed my opinion, she is smart, plays fetch, clean and loves to chill, hell she is laying on my chest purring as I write this. We've have both cats and dogs in the house and honestly I love all the pets.
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That's another positive for cats, keep the rodents out of your house. Not that I have a rodent problem, but surprisingly my fat lazy cat did kill a mouse in my basement once before. Also, more to my situation, he also takes care of any of the centipedes that get into my home.
I read somewhere that Disney lets cats roam it's parks at night to rid the place of rodents. Being serious (though I can't verify it's true).
This is what we look like to cats.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1a/15/d8/1a15d8815c7438436eefcd24aa97de63--rats-fancy-dress.jpg)
This is actually Tim in the suit and it's his way to lure cats in to catch them and kill them.
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I fucking hate cats, but hey, if you like them,
And there it is! I was despairing of ever discovering a flaw your character. I wish I had a waterproof pillow.
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I fucking hate cats, but hey, if you like them,
And there it is! I was despairing of ever discovering a flaw your character. I wish I had a waterproof pillow.
He does shame us all.
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I fucking hate cats, but hey, if you like them,
And there it is! I was despairing of ever discovering a flaw your character. I wish I had a waterproof pillow.
:lol
I like that I forgot to finish my thought before hitting "Post" lol
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My wife and I own and live in a four buildings compound: one of those is a flat building (garage downstairs, rehearsals room upstairs) whose large roof we have covered with solar panels ten years ago; these panels feed the whole compound's energy system (our house, mother-in-law's house, daughter's house) for a considerable deal, and in the past (when the daughter was in uni) we've even been able to sell a bit of surplus back. Everything is sorrounded by a bit of land hosting nice trees, which my wife adores; she hugs them and talks with them sometimes. Call her crazy (she married me, after all), but it's a thing I definitely love in her, one of the 100 reasons for she is an infinitely better person than I am.
We've had some problems with both the wireless system monitoring control and the feeding system itself lately, and today it turned out our young oak is not so young anymore and it's blocking a big area of the panel structure with its branches. The technician bluntly said: "you either cut the tree (pruning the excessive lenght and branches would equal death for the plant, another specialist said) or move (and rebuild) the entire system on top of another building. To sum it up, in order to protect an investment made for exquisite enviromental concerns, we have to cut a tree.
My wife is literally crying (and tomorrow is her focking birthday) at the thought of killing a "friend", I am figuratively crying at the thought of paying for the humongous work the alternative involves, both are pissed at what will probably happen: save the tree, sell the panels.
Apologies for the long rant, but I feel mocked by the irony of it all.
I feel like I owe you kind people an update on the issue. I am a softie, and - after consulting second, third, and fourth specialised opinions - I went for a last ditch hail Mary via deep amputation, waiting for the spring seasons to tell us whether the patient has the will and strength to survive. It could be kinda cruel, but the things you do for love.
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You circumcised your tree?
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Actually, it reminds me of the story of Gary prepping for the big V.
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You circumcised your tree?
Yep. I also pruned the oak in the pic.
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You circumcised your tree?
Yep. I also pruned the oak in the pic.
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You circumcised your tree?
Yep. I also pruned the oak in the pic.
:lol
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You circumcised your tree?
Yep. I also pruned the oak in the pic.
Bet you say that to all the trees.
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"Pissed off" isn't the right word; more like freaked out, but as the "freak out" diminishes, I might get pissed...
So we're having internet issues over the past couple days. Intermittent service, drop outs, slow internet... About a half an hour ago, I opened Spotify up to send my roulette submission to Wolfie. Done! Then about 15, 20 minutes ago, we had an episode with the internet and things slowed to a crawl.
I went back to close Spotify, and a pop-up ad came up. "Slow connectivity interrupting your music? Try T-mobile" or something along those lines (I closed it without really thinking about it). I get that ads are tailored, but this seems excessively... intrusive. This isn't a site like Amazon monitoring past searches; this is actually going outside the program to assess computer performance. That seems a little much to me.
Am I missing something?
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"Pissed off" isn't the right word; more like freaked out, but as the "freak out" diminishes, I might get pissed...
So we're having internet issues over the past couple days. Intermittent service, drop outs, slow internet... About a half an hour ago, I opened Spotify up to send my roulette submission to Wolfie. Done! Then about 15, 20 minutes ago, we had an episode with the internet and things slowed to a crawl.
I went back to close Spotify, and a pop-up ad came up. "Slow connectivity interrupting your music? Try T-mobile" or something along those lines (I closed it without really thinking about it). I get that ads are tailored, but this seems excessively... intrusive. This isn't a site like Amazon monitoring past searches; this is actually going outside the program to assess computer performance. That seems a little much to me.
Am I missing something?
Yeah, turn you phone into a hotspot.
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"Pissed off" isn't the right word; more like freaked out, but as the "freak out" diminishes, I might get pissed...
So we're having internet issues over the past couple days. Intermittent service, drop outs, slow internet... About a half an hour ago, I opened Spotify up to send my roulette submission to Wolfie. Done! Then about 15, 20 minutes ago, we had an episode with the internet and things slowed to a crawl.
I went back to close Spotify, and a pop-up ad came up. "Slow connectivity interrupting your music? Try T-mobile" or something along those lines (I closed it without really thinking about it). I get that ads are tailored, but this seems excessively... intrusive. This isn't a site like Amazon monitoring past searches; this is actually going outside the program to assess computer performance. That seems a little much to me.
Am I missing something?
If I understand correctly, this probably isn't that. I get those from Youtube whenever playback is bad (although it's a useless help link rather than an ad). Spotify will always be monitoring performance. Just like YT. Their site will know if you're getting spotty internet without having to know anything about your computer beyond its own app.
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"Pissed off" isn't the right word; more like freaked out, but as the "freak out" diminishes, I might get pissed...
So we're having internet issues over the past couple days. Intermittent service, drop outs, slow internet... About a half an hour ago, I opened Spotify up to send my roulette submission to Wolfie. Done! Then about 15, 20 minutes ago, we had an episode with the internet and things slowed to a crawl.
I went back to close Spotify, and a pop-up ad came up. "Slow connectivity interrupting your music? Try T-mobile" or something along those lines (I closed it without really thinking about it). I get that ads are tailored, but this seems excessively... intrusive. This isn't a site like Amazon monitoring past searches; this is actually going outside the program to assess computer performance. That seems a little much to me.
Am I missing something?
Yeah, turn you phone into a hotspot.
Good idea.
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"Pissed off" isn't the right word; more like freaked out, but as the "freak out" diminishes, I might get pissed...
So we're having internet issues over the past couple days. Intermittent service, drop outs, slow internet... About a half an hour ago, I opened Spotify up to send my roulette submission to Wolfie. Done! Then about 15, 20 minutes ago, we had an episode with the internet and things slowed to a crawl.
I went back to close Spotify, and a pop-up ad came up. "Slow connectivity interrupting your music? Try T-mobile" or something along those lines (I closed it without really thinking about it). I get that ads are tailored, but this seems excessively... intrusive. This isn't a site like Amazon monitoring past searches; this is actually going outside the program to assess computer performance. That seems a little much to me.
Am I missing something?
If I understand correctly, this probably isn't that. I get those from Youtube whenever playback is bad (although it's a useless help link rather than an ad). Spotify will always be monitoring performance. Just like YT. Their site will know if you're getting spotty internet without having to know anything about your computer beyond its own app.
That makes sense. Thanks!
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"Pissed off" isn't the right word; more like freaked out, but as the "freak out" diminishes, I might get pissed...
So we're having internet issues over the past couple days. Intermittent service, drop outs, slow internet... About a half an hour ago, I opened Spotify up to send my roulette submission to Wolfie. Done! Then about 15, 20 minutes ago, we had an episode with the internet and things slowed to a crawl.
I went back to close Spotify, and a pop-up ad came up. "Slow connectivity interrupting your music? Try T-mobile" or something along those lines (I closed it without really thinking about it). I get that ads are tailored, but this seems excessively... intrusive. This isn't a site like Amazon monitoring past searches; this is actually going outside the program to assess computer performance. That seems a little much to me.
Am I missing something?
If I understand correctly, this probably isn't that. I get those from Youtube whenever playback is bad (although it's a useless help link rather than an ad). Spotify will always be monitoring performance. Just like YT. Their site will know if you're getting spotty internet without having to know anything about your computer beyond its own app.
THat's my thought as well, but it does seem to be an ad tied to it with T-Moblie. I'm guessing that actually isn't targetted in the way you are thinking about being intrusive, but targetting int he way El Barto is saying in that the system knows you are having an internet issue so they likely got paid by T-Mobile to tag that to the warning. Having said that, I find that part to be annoying. You already get the normal targeted ads towards you, but now the website is giving you ads in their warnings. That's a bit much. I'd be even more annoyed (for you that is, since I don't use spotify) if you are on a paid tier of service and getting that ad. I guess if you are using it for free, it's all part of the business model.
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I bought my mom's old vehicle for my son who is 15. I've been driving it in the short term since it gets much better gas mileage than the other vehicle I have available. A few month later and the transmission blows up. $4000 to rebuild it. The vehicle is maybe worth about that much. I'm not sure it's worth it. I'm inclined to just sell it as is or donate it. But I know it's been well cared for. Buying a used vehicle for <$5000 is a crap shoot. I may end up with something worse. While they're under no obligation, I hope my parents give me back what I paid them for it. They got out just at the right time.
It's been a rough year for unplanned expenses. I hate dealing with this kind of crap.
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Just asking... what kind of car? Rebuilds can be expensive, but for many cars, you can get a replacement transmission from a junkyard for a fraction of that cost. If you know a mechanic that can install it... there's risk in that the replacement could blow up in a month too, but if this isn't the daily for your wife to transport your newborn child, then it might be worth the risk.
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Just asking... what kind of car? Rebuilds can be expensive, but for many cars, you can get a replacement transmission from a junkyard for a fraction of that cost. If you know a mechanic that can install it... there's risk in that the replacement could blow up in a month too, but if this isn't the daily for your wife to transport your newborn child, then it might be worth the risk.
I'd definitely look into going this route.
It's just a really shitty time to own a car right now.
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Tell me about it, as I'm paying for a big brake job today.
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Just asking... what kind of car? Rebuilds can be expensive, but for many cars, you can get a replacement transmission from a junkyard for a fraction of that cost. If you know a mechanic that can install it... there's risk in that the replacement could blow up in a month too, but if this isn't the daily for your wife to transport your newborn child, then it might be worth the risk.
It's a barebones 2008 Saturn Vue. A mediocre vehicle at best to begin with. It will eventually be my son's car once he needs his own vehicle. I'll ask about putting in a used transmission. Not a bad idea
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My brother told me that He's having major issues with his insurance company. My nephew has a Farby's disease. Here's what it affects.
Fabry disease is a rare X-linked lysosomal disorder that results in excessive deposition of lipids in the tissues. Young patients usually present with stroke, skin lesions, heart attack, or renal failure. Once the diagnosis is made, an interprofessional approach is vital.
My nephew was the youngest every in the United State to get diagnosed with it. The insurance is double dipping into the copay assistance program that the drug companies give to help with these expensive drugs. (My nephew has to get infusions every other week the rest of his life. So as they dip in the assistance, it make my brother have to pay the deductible of $4000.00.
Do we ever hear Dems or Reps talking about how expensive health care is these days? I remember when there was no deductibles. Now there 7 which you never hit.
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Wow Joe, that is awful for your nephew. Gut wrenching.
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Big business stomping one us. It's so expensive these days. It pisses me off. I hate that our medical is run by profit. I remember fighting with being denied when the hospital coded something wrong. You'd think the insurance and the hospital could work together to fix it but no. I had to do the leg work while telling the insurance every day to fuck off. I wasn't paying the bills until this was fixed.
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Wow Joe, that is awful for your nephew. Gut wrenching.
Just a kick in the gut to read this, let alone be parenting it, let alone be living it. I just can't even
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Wow Joe, that is awful for your nephew. Gut wrenching.
Just a kick in the gut to read this, let alone be parenting it, let alone be living it. I just can't even
Yeah, wow, that disease sounds like potentially the worse thing. And then it's amazing, there's actually a medicine that can keep you alive? Oh but it's unaffordable. Well, aint that fucking garbage. Can't imagine being in that situation. Sorry for your family.
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The most gut wrenching part was my nephew heard. He ask, "Are they going to kill me?"
My brother broke down hearing that. That's why I'm so pissed off right now.
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Wow Joe, that is awful for your nephew. Gut wrenching.
Just a kick in the gut to read this, let alone be parenting it, let alone be living it. I just can't even
Yep....I can't imagine having to navigate that.
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One of the reasons I have weathered the storm at my employer. Being that it is a large Chicago hospital system, I have pretty stellar insurance. With my family's issues, I need it. Even then, the price goes up every year, the deductible tends to go up and the out of pocket tends to go up. If I stray out of my employer's system, everything goes way up. For the most part, everything is a simple copy of $10 or $25 to see a doctor and $100 to stay in the hospital. Not sure where I would be financially if weren't for my coverage.
I can't imagine going through what that kid is going to have to go through. Just terrible to hear.
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US healthcare system is pure, unadulterated evil
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US healthcare system is pure, unadulterated evil
Indeed. It's not Healthcare... it's Healthbusiness.
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US healthcare system is pure, unadulterated evil
Indeed. It's not Healthcare... it's Healthbusiness.
25 years ago it wasn't but it was the beginnings of where we are now.
I had no deductibles and 100% coverage. Now, I can't track anything. And now, neither side is doing anything to help.
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St. Patrick's Day Parade in the neighboring town.
I dropped off my daughter and wife (they were walking in the parade) and my son and I parked and found a spot to sit. We were in the downtown area of the town. We were an hour early, so we put our camping chairs right on the rope line that lined the street and sat. Just as the parade turned the corner of the street, more and more kids pushed past our chairs and crowded right next to us - middle school aged kids. Zero respect for the fact that we had been sitting in our spot for an hour. As the parade carried on, these kids were pushing against the rope line and had actually moved it 5 feet from its original spot, forming a bubble in the line. Then that bubble moved to about 10 feet into the street. The kids were 1-2 feet (arm's length) from the parade participants and vehicles.
The kids were fighting for candy so hard, that they would catch the handful tossed at them, then step sideways (into my son and some other little girl) to try and catch the handful that was thrown in their direction. Basically double dipping. I put my hands on one kid's shoulders and told him to let my son get some candy.
When my wife walked by with the girl scout troop, she said it was like a scene from The Walking Dead, where zombies are pushing against a door that is bulging. The rope line holding the crowd was pulsating and moving with kids and parents trying to get closer to the participants. I took a few pictures and emailed them to the village when we got home, asking them to review crowd control for future years. My wife didn't feel safe walking down that street, and I didn't like my son and other kids being that close.
While I think the village was not expecting the heavy turnout of people, the sad thing is that the parents were so busy pounding green beer from the brewery on the street (that opened at 11am) and as they were drinking, they were encouraging their kids forward and forward. No lie - my son and I went into the place to use the restroom before the parade, and it was packed - the line for the bar was nearly out the door, about 40-50 people deep.
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My 8 year old daughter had a very bad day at school. We got an email after school saying that she was leaving in a bad mood because of XYZ. Basically, her anxiety ramped up because of a number of variables - didn't eat her lunch, was nervous about making up standardized testing and other work she missed from two days out sick, etc.
I finally got tired of what I feel are nit-picky emails from her teachers and questioned whether they are really in her corner or not, because every time there is an email sent home, it seems like they make her out to be an instigator. They pushed back hard, and while I relented and apologized, I also said that I do need to advocate for her.
My daughter had a good morning today, wrote an apology letter to her teacher, and had a good morning. They finally asked her WHY she was so upset yesterday and she admitted to them that a boy said to her:
I wish you weren't alive.
FUCK. I read that and my heart rate sped up and I just felt that primal, dad-rage mode build up. Kids will be kids and I understand that we've all heard shit like that, growing up and even as adults. But when you learn that someone said it to your own child, a part of you is instantly ready to go handle business and fuck someone up.
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They finally asked her WHY she was so upset yesterday and she admitted to them that a boy said to her:
I wish you weren't alive.
FUCK. I read that and my heart rate sped up and I just felt that primal, dad-rage mode build up. Kids will be kids and I understand that we've all heard shit like that, growing up and even as adults. But when you learn that someone said it to your own child, a part of you is instantly ready to go handle business and fuck someone up.
I hear you. But 9/10 times that crap is because of that child's parents raising that kid to think this is ok to say to someone.
Not my place, but if it were me? I'd be calling for a meeting with that kid's parents and the school principle - and the school counselor if you've got one. I bet you anything that kid has something shitty going on at home and he's bullying others because he's being abused and/or neglected at home. I'd also wager that your child isn't the only victim.
But your child might be embarrassed by this - deep down it is important for her to see that you will be going to the mat for her.
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^^^ That hit close to home for me. Watching my youngest step son grow and grow through school with autism has been one of the more eye-opening experiences of my life. My dad was handicapped, so I'm sort of used to the "blindness" people have to that, but my dad was a genius, and mentally as sharp as a tack so he could fight back or not as the case may be. My step son literally thinks differently than I do (or even the rest of his family). It's been an eye-opener, especially when it comes to jokes and things like that. I'm a jokey person. I like to crack wise, and I'd much rather make someone laugh and feel at ease than anything else. That doesn't work with my step son, always. I have to be very clear with him when I'm joking, when I'm being hyperbolic, when I'm being facetious.
We live in a very, VERY hyperbolic, facetious world today. Everything is "super this" and "uber that", and we use absolute terms like "terrifying" and "dystopian" and they have taken on these practical meanings beyond the literal.
This is all to say that whether that kid meant it literally or as a barb, or a dig, IT DOESN'T MATTER. My stepson would not necessarily have been able to parse how it was meant, and it would have hurt him. And I understand your reaction to that, ESPECIALLY when it comes to the teachers and staff. I don't expect teachers to treat everyone with kid gloves, but the school staff presumably KNOWS about kids like your daughter and my stepson. They KNOW. So why do they not do everything in their power to help them be better the next day than they were today? I get teaching is tough, but you signed up for that. That's your JOB.
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They finally asked her WHY she was so upset yesterday and she admitted to them that a boy said to her:
I wish you weren't alive.
FUCK. I read that and my heart rate sped up and I just felt that primal, dad-rage mode build up. Kids will be kids and I understand that we've all heard shit like that, growing up and even as adults. But when you learn that someone said it to your own child, a part of you is instantly ready to go handle business and fuck someone up.
I hear you. But 9/10 times that crap is because of that child's parents raising that kid to think this is ok to say to someone.
Not my place, but if it were me? I'd be calling for a meeting with that kid's parents and the school principle - and the school counselor if you've got one. I bet you anything that kid has something shitty going on at home and he's bullying others because he's being abused and/or neglected at home. I'd also wager that your child isn't the only victim.
But your child might be embarrassed by this - deep down it is important for her to see that you will be going to the mat for her.
I had that moment with her last night, before I knew some kid said that to her. She had her bad day at school and I was irritated enough to send the teachers a message in response to theirs. I told my daughter - "i'm going to stick up for you, but you have to cool down NOW and do the homework that they gave you." When she knew I was sticking up for her, her attitude completely changed and she let go of her anger and was compliant with us.
As for the other kid, the school is chalking it up to typical kid things - my daughter was correcting him, either telling him to stand still or stay in line and the kid responded with a nasty line to her.
^^^ That hit close to home for me. Watching my youngest step son grow and grow through school with autism has been one of the more eye-opening experiences of my life. My dad was handicapped, so I'm sort of used to the "blindness" people have to that, but my dad was a genius, and mentally as sharp as a tack so he could fight back or not as the case may be. My step son literally thinks differently than I do (or even the rest of his family). It's been an eye-opener, especially when it comes to jokes and things like that. I'm a jokey person. I like to crack wise, and I'd much rather make someone laugh and feel at ease than anything else. That doesn't work with my step son, always. I have to be very clear with him when I'm joking, when I'm being hyperbolic, when I'm being facetious.
We live in a very, VERY hyperbolic, facetious world today. Everything is "super this" and "uber that", and we use absolute terms like "terrifying" and "dystopian" and they have taken on these practical meanings beyond the literal.
This is all to say that whether that kid meant it literally or as a barb, or a dig, IT DOESN'T MATTER. My stepson would not necessarily have been able to parse how it was meant, and it would have hurt him. And I understand your reaction to that, ESPECIALLY when it comes to the teachers and staff. I don't expect teachers to treat everyone with kid gloves, but the school staff presumably KNOWS about kids like your daughter and my stepson. They KNOW. So why do they not do everything in their power to help them be better the next day than they were today? I get teaching is tough, but you signed up for that. That's your JOB.
To be fair, my daughter brings some of this stuff on herself, through her emotions and behavior. And when she gets in a mood, she doesn't always respond to the teachers and tell them what's wrong, so it's on her. That being said, I still want to go pound the kid that said that - it's just unnecessary. Sadly, this is only 3rd grade and we'll have a long ride - my daughter has to eventually learn that she has to try hard to not show her emotions at school and just go with the flow. If she could have a cooler head, then the other kids wouldn't needle her for a reaction. You're right though - the school does know about her anxiety and emotions, and she has been better over the last few months. We had a GREAT parent-teacher conference where they all praised her, contrary to the fall, when they were very critical of her. She just had a shitty day, where every trigger of hers was pushed. I'm tired of the teacher emails saying "she did this, she did that." Why don't you tell me "she did this, and we did that to help?"
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It seems the enshitification of rewards programs continues unabated. I've noticed a new trend that's popped up a couple of times this year. In the past having a membership, and better still a co-branded credit card, insured you'd get the best rate. It was in the hotel/airline's best interest to pocket the money directly. Now it's spun the other way. In the case of AA, they'll no longer sell basic economy flights directly. You can only book them through a travel site like Expedia. Of course that means you get none of the perks your membership should afford. I can book through Expedia and pay $269 and get none of my perks, or I can book through AA for $420 and get a free checked bag, priority boarding, more points, and free seat selection. Basically they're selling their free stuff now.
Had this pop up with Marriott a couple of months ago. The only way to book directly with them and get the 3x points was to pay more money and not get a free breakfast, vs a much better deal with Expedia. Again, they've found a way to sell their free stuff. I stayed a La Quinta that night.
Sports fans might have seen a commercial in the last year regarding legislation to "help save small businesses!" It's something being pushed forward by Best Buy, Home Depot, and other big box store allowing "choice" in credit card processors. They want to stop having to pay the ~2-3% cc processing fees, and naturally "they'll pass the savings along to us." In reality they'll pocket the money and credit card perks will simply go away. I reckon that what we're seeing now is companies that rely on loyalty rewards preparing for this.
Sometimes I'll stand on principle and sometimes I won't. Shit like this is definitely the former, and I'm more inclined to just skip the whole deal than play in a crooked game.
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It seems the enshitification of rewards programs continues unabated. I've noticed a new trend that's popped up a couple of times this year. In the past having a membership, and better still a co-branded credit card, insured you'd get the best rate. It was in the hotel/airline's best interest to pocket the money directly. Now it's spun the other way. In the case of AA, they'll no longer sell basic economy flights directly. You can only book them through a travel site like Expedia. Of course that means you get none of the perks your membership should afford. I can book through Expedia and pay $269 and get none of my perks, or I can book through AA for $420 and get a free checked bag, priority boarding, more points, and free seat selection. Basically they're selling their free stuff now.
This is part of the reason why I will be somewhat happy when all my travel perks go away after this year (since my work travel has mostly stopped). I've felt a bit tied to United and IHG because I've had their highest level of status and having the perks that go along with that. It's great generally to have those perks, but I did notice over time that I could probably save money booking through a different site or using a different brand, but my loyalty had kept me with the same ole same ole. I think these places have also lessoned the value of their own point system to the point where once again, a better deal is more worthy than collecting points that don't hold value.
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This is part of the reason why I will be somewhat happy when all my travel perks go away after this year (since my work travel has mostly stopped). I've felt a bit tied to United and IHG because I've had their highest level of status and having the perks that go along with that. It's great generally to have those perks, but I did notice over time that I could probably save money booking through a different site or using a different brand, but my loyalty had kept me with the same ole same ole. I think these places have also lessoned the value of their own point system to the point where once again, a better deal is more worthy than collecting points that don't hold value.
I'm not married to any hotel brand, and I'll only collect the points when it's a decent value. However, I am married to AA since DFW is their biggest hub. They basically fly everywhere nonstop 10 times a day, and more often than not have the best fares. Funny thing about United is that I always check them, too, as I can convert my Ultimate Rewards points to them 1:1, and they don't seem to fly anywhere nonstop. Every flight is 7-8 hours.
As for points, I'm not sure how it'll play out. If this causes points to become harder to accrue then they might become more valuable. The airlines have been devaluing them every year for a while now. I wouldn't mind seeing them return some value. For my part I just got an 80k signup bonus for the Citi AA card, and as soon as I hit the spending threshold for them I'll do the same with the Barclay's card. I have a hunch this might be the end of the big signup bonuses.
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As for points, I'm not sure how it'll play out. If this causes points to become harder to accrue then they might become more valuable. The airlines have been devaluing them every year for a while now. I wouldn't mind seeing them return some value. For my part I just got an 80k signup bonus for the Citi AA card, and as soon as I hit the spending threshold for them I'll do the same with the Barclay's card. I have a hunch this might be the end of the big signup bonuses.
If you are paying a premium to earn points, they better become more valuable. But I'm just struggling to see it make sense for the average flyer. The frequent flyer, probably especially if work is paying for it. United is my main hub in Newark so I likely won't ditch them completely, but I can see myself using those deal sites for vacation packages that I would never consider because I've been a point whore for the last 10 years.
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The latest Jon Stewart Daily Show episode just kinda brushed this subject. He had the FTC Chairperson on.
https://youtu.be/oaDTiWaYfcM?si=Bm9np_f319RnEZr6&t=682
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I feel like I've been keeping this thread alive lately.
Sunday - The Easter Bunny brings my daughter a kids-MP3 player. She's been asking for one a lot and has really been getting into music.
Monday/Tuesday - brings it to school to listen to while on the bus ride home, keeps it in her locker. Shows a few kids her new prized possession.
Wednesday - puts the MP3 player on the top shelf of her locker, with the headphones plugged in. At dismissal, the player was gone and only the headphones remained. Her teachers (and us parents) determined that it was likely another student took the device. Whoever it was would have had to unplug the headphones. Daughter is completely distraught and I was STEAMING mad.
Thursday - Principal calls, said he looked through HOURS of security camera footage and saw that another student took the device from her locker. He retrieved it from her. Student has consequences, including having to personally apologize to my daughter and hand it back. Happy ending, but I was incredibly angry for about 20 hours. I hated that she had to go through that experience, but she learned that things have to be less visible to protect them from being stolen.
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That would piss me off to no end.
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Always astounding that children/people just take something of someone else's without any regard or care whatsoever, WTF?!
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That kid's parents should ground that kid to infinity.
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I feel like I've been keeping this thread alive lately.
Sunday - The Easter Bunny brings my daughter a kids-MP3 player. She's been asking for one a lot and has really been getting into music.
Monday/Tuesday - brings it to school to listen to while on the bus ride home, keeps it in her locker. Shows a few kids her new prized possession.
Wednesday - puts the MP3 player on the top shelf of her locker, with the headphones plugged in. At dismissal, the player was gone and only the headphones remained. Her teachers (and us parents) determined that it was likely another student took the device. Whoever it was would have had to unplug the headphones. Daughter is completely distraught and I was STEAMING mad.
Thursday - Principal calls, said he looked through HOURS of security camera footage and saw that another student took the device from her locker. He retrieved it from her. Student has consequences, including having to personally apologize to my daughter and hand it back. Happy ending, but I was incredibly angry for about 20 hours. I hated that she had to go through that experience, but she learned that things have to be less visible to protect them from being stolen.
When I was in school, had that happened to me the principle would have just said "you shouldn't have brought it to school in the first place. Next time don't be such a dumbass." Hell, my high school vice principle would have given me two weeks detention for it.
Also, while I'm glad it helped to get your kid's property bag, it saddens me that everything kids do in school now is captured on video. Being a kid nowadays must really suck ass.
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This is part of the reason why I will be somewhat happy when all my travel perks go away after this year (since my work travel has mostly stopped). I've felt a bit tied to United and IHG because I've had their highest level of status and having the perks that go along with that. It's great generally to have those perks, but I did notice over time that I could probably save money booking through a different site or using a different brand, but my loyalty had kept me with the same ole same ole. I think these places have also lessoned the value of their own point system to the point where once again, a better deal is more worthy than collecting points that don't hold value.
My wife travels something like 40 weeks a year and has status with AA, Marriott and Hilton and she constantly talks about how the points she earns are worse and worse. Barto she literally brought up the AA thing just last night when looking to book a flight
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When I was in school, had that happened to me the principle would have just said "you shouldn't have brought it to school in the first place. Next time don't be such a dumbass." Hell, my high school vice principle would have given me two weeks detention for it.
Also, while I'm glad it helped to get your kid's property bag, it saddens me that everything kids do in school now is captured on video. Being a kid nowadays must really suck ass.
I am so glad my school has a zero tolerance policy for phones. Until you are out the doors and outside, no phones. Kids don't have to be distracted by them, but another thing I remembered reading your post, they don't have to worry that they're being filmed for bullying reasons while in school. Having worked in schools where every kid was on their phone all day, it's a stark difference.
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When I was in school, had that happened to me the principle would have just said "you shouldn't have brought it to school in the first place. Next time don't be such a dumbass." Hell, my high school vice principle would have given me two weeks detention for it.
Also, while I'm glad it helped to get your kid's property bag, it saddens me that everything kids do in school now is captured on video. Being a kid nowadays must really suck ass.
That LITERALLY happened to me; I brought an arrow head I found in the woods and BAM! it was gone. According to the faculty, it was a "lesson learned" (which, of course, they were right).
But given that it IS on video - also share Bart's lament on that, by the way - but I have to say: "personally apologizing" and "giving it back" are not "consequences". I don't mean to say that kid should do jail time, but that down side is to pretend it didn't happen. It's not "school rules" to not take something that doesn't belong to you. The consequences, IMO, should have been harsher. You know, a DETERRENT.
Speaking of, I'm brewing a post and have been for a week or so, about the level to which we are "observed" in our society. It has, to my estimation, noticeably changed how people behave. I'll write more when I get my thoughts together.
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But given that it IS on video - also share Bart's lament on that, by the way - but I have to say: "personally apologizing" and "giving it back" are not "consequences". I don't mean to say that kid should do jail time, but that down side is to pretend it didn't happen. It's not "school rules" to not take something that doesn't belong to you. The consequences, IMO, should have been harsher. You know, a DETERRENT.
I don't remember the age of Grapp's daughter, but at that age, a personal apology could be appropriate. Other than being an opportunistic thief, it's possible they actually were sorry.
Speaking of, I'm brewing a post and have been for a week or so, about the level to which we are "observed" in our society. It has, to my estimation, noticeably changed how people behave. I'll write more when I get my thoughts together.
Looking forward to this.
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That LITERALLY happened to me; I brought an arrow head I found in the woods and BAM! it was gone. According to the faculty, it was a "lesson learned" (which, of course, they were right).
That kind of shit is what finally convinced me that the purpose of schooling wasn't to actually educate kids, although that's certainly a nice bonus, but to instill a respect/fear of authority. Given my lifelong disregard of authority, it's honestly pretty amazing what a couple of worthless principals can do to a kid.
I don't remember the age of Grapp's daughter, but at that age, a personal apology could be appropriate. Other than being an opportunistic thief, it's possible they actually were sorry.
I had Stadler's initial reaction to that as well, but decided this was correct. If she's in high school then I'm raising hell about it. If it's a kindergarten thing then a teachable moment is fine.
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Speaking of, I'm brewing a post and have been for a week or so, about the level to which we are "observed" in our society. It has, to my estimation, noticeably changed how people behave. I'll write more when I get my thoughts together.
This will naturally be of interest to me. I'm sure I'll have a lot to add. Suffice it to say, it sure seems to me that it's only brought about negative change, and nothing positive.
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When my older kid started 7th grade she would come home and show us pictures from school. I asked her when the hell she had time and opportunity to take those. She said some teachers let them use their phones if they are done with their work, or to listen to music while working. What in the blue hell?
She also had a couple bracelets taken from her, but from what I could piece together she put them down on a bench during lunch and lo and behold, they vanished. So teachable moment for her on that one. She said later she saw a girl wearing one of them, and asked her about it. The other girl said it was hers and had a story about how she bought it. It was a long conversation between her, mom, and I on how far she wanted to take it to get them back, or rat out the girl, or both. Mom was tormented by some gang-bangers in middle school so was content to let it go, believing a couple cheap bracelets weren't worth getting on the bad side of some mean girls. I told her I wasn't happy with my kid giving the impression to others that she will lay down and let them piss on her face and take it. But we came to an agreement and chalked this one up to a loss, and her having a better awareness of her property and her associates.
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That kind of shit is what finally convinced me that the purpose of schooling wasn't to actually educate kids, although that's certainly a nice bonus, but to instill a respect/fear of authority. Given my lifelong disregard of authority, it's honestly pretty amazing what a couple of worthless principals can do to a kid.
You think all teachers are there to instill fear and respect?
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You think all teachers are there to instill fear and respect?
No. The principals are.
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When I was in school, had that happened to me the principle would have just said "you shouldn't have brought it to school in the first place. Next time don't be such a dumbass." Hell, my high school vice principle would have given me two weeks detention for it.
Also, while I'm glad it helped to get your kid's property bag, it saddens me that everything kids do in school now is captured on video. Being a kid nowadays must really suck ass.
The principal told me that - "Our opinion is that she shouldn't bring it to school." Noted, but she rides the bus and complains that the bus is loud, so she listens to music to drown out the other kids. She and I talked about when we drive places in the car and I tell her to hide her iPad under the seat - that if you keep something out of sight, it's harder for people to take it. A huge light-bulb went off for her then - something was stolen from her because she left it sitting out.
Agreed about the video, but it helps when it comes to school incidents, both for finding fault and for finding innocence. My daughter was mad at another kid earlier this year and said that the girl got physical with her in gym class and pushed her down. They reviewed the video and nothing like that happened. My daughter had an emotional day and lied, which was bad. The other kid was saved from punishment, and my kid got punished at home for lying. I'm a big proponent for advancing technology in education, and security cameras are a part of the tools that they can use for school administration.
But given that it IS on video - also share Bart's lament on that, by the way - but I have to say: "personally apologizing" and "giving it back" are not "consequences". I don't mean to say that kid should do jail time, but that down side is to pretend it didn't happen. It's not "school rules" to not take something that doesn't belong to you. The consequences, IMO, should have been harsher. You know, a DETERRENT.
I didn't say that wasn't part of the consequences. The school doesn't share exactly what the exact consequences are with the other families involved, but he did state that a physical apology and handing back of the stolen item would be part of it, which is difficult for an 8 year old to do. The elementary school does not use detentions for punishment, but the district and board have a disciplinary policy that has varied measures, depending on the infraction. Apparently this is a newer family to the school and the kid arrived mid-year, so I don't know much about the family. I'm hoping it's a deterrent.
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No. The principals are.
Man, I don't know, the principal of one school I've worked at was not like that, to a fault.
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No. The principals are.
I think there is a balance. Kids do learn that they can't get on the bad side of the principal. I did once in elementary school in the 80's. Brought my Megatron Transformer toy to school for show and tell. Hey look, the robot turns into a gun! I was out at recess and my 6'4" principal stalked me down and let me have it right there on the playground that even though it is a toy, we can never bring anything to school that looks like a gun. I still look back on that, even though it happened 35 years ago. He was a tall, stiff guy.
At the same time, the principal also has to be caring. We were picking my daughter up once in the car pickup line. She got in and left her hand on the door frame. The teacher that was helping kids into cars shut the door and pinched her fingers. The teacher felt awful and reported it to the principal - he called us a few minutes after we got home to check up on her.
My daughter's principal is amazing and makes it so fun for them to be at school and has cultivated a very great environment. Throughout the year, they have principal challenges - they raise enough money and then he has to do something crazy. He was duct-taped to the wall, he's been covered in icky foods. I love the guy and respect him and the majority of the students and parents do too.
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We had a great principal here in our town's high school.
A school principal is really the first and likely only authority figure kids will come across growing up, not counting the teachers. It's important to know who's in charge and to act accordingly. Bart's right in that regard, though somehow he makes it sound way more sinister. :lol
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In my high school, the principal was a very nice man named Donald M., very fair, very personable, very reasonable. Smart man. The two assistant principals? Relative goons. One, Leon M. we called "Leon" to his face and he didn't like it. He and the other guy, Ronald G., were the heavies.
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From my memory, it was the Vice-Principals that were the 'bad cops'. I have no negative memories of the Principals I had as a kid. Some of the Principals that my kids had were borderline incompetent, but most of them were pretty good. We ran into a few terrible VPs, but also a few really good ones.
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From my memory, it was the Vice-Principals that were the 'bad cops'. I have no negative memories of the Principals I had as a kid. Some of the Principals that my kids had were borderline incompetent, but most of them were pretty good. We ran into a few terrible VPs, but also a few really good ones.
Yeah, my experience was the VP was the person you did not want to get sent to. That person was responsible for handing out the punishments. I dont have much of an opinion on the principles themselves. But I do know a school principle and this guy is a huge hippie and does lots of drugs and it's quite amazing what his profession is :lol
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From my memory, it was the Vice-Principals that were the 'bad cops'. I have no negative memories of the Principals I had as a kid. Some of the Principals that my kids had were borderline incompetent, but most of them were pretty good. We ran into a few terrible VPs, but also a few really good ones.
This is my experience, as well. Vice principals are the ones that see kids every day, and they're the ones out to establish dominance. At the same time they can switch cop-roles as needed. I got along well with the principal, Dr. B., but the vice principal Hogan despised me. The latter was the one that always had to deal with me. At the same time a good friend of mine would tell you exactly the opposite. She got along great with Hogan and Dr. B. took the bad cop role to make sure she never graduated.
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I remember really liking my elementary principal as a kid. No idea if I even met my middle school one. My high school principal was just there, seemed really neutral but never had to interact with him.
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My elementary school principal was a nun, she was usually very nice. She and I are actually FB friends :lol I don't know that I ever interacted with my high school principal, don't have a clue what his name was. I do remember the name of the VP in charge of discipline, even though he and I thankfully had minimal interactions over those four years.
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Sidebar, my elementary school principal was the first school figure I met "outside of school" and realized she was a real person! Hahaha. Years after she left the school system I was in New Haven at the Yale Museum and she was working as a docent and we had a nice conversation. I found out then (and confirmed this to be true with ALL the principals of my schools) that she had a friendly relationship with my parents (particularly with my dad). I don't mean "inappropriate", I just mean that my dad knew all my principals and talked with them fairly frequently. I didn't know that at the time!!!!!
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Man, I don't know, the principal of one school I've worked at was not like that, to a fault.
Honest question: Who's more likely to succeed in your school, the highly intelligent rebel or the compliant dipshit?
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From my memory, it was the Vice-Principals that were the 'bad cops'.
That was my experience in high school. My freshman year I got into a minor situation and the VP was really being a hardass in the kind of "punishment" he was going to hand down and my Dad told him to fuck off, that the VP was not in any way a bigger badass with more stroke than my Dad had, and was not going to mete out excessive punishment for a minor incident, and Dad told the VP what my punishment would be, to which he agreed.
Good times.
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Our Headmaster (UK) got caught having an affair with a substitute teacher, apparently they were caught shagging on the school field (this was the rumour among the pupils anyway!). The affair was 100% true as it made the local papers, both were suspended and never came back ;D
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Our Headmaster (UK) got caught having an affair with a substitute teacher, apparently they were caught shagging on the school field (this was the rumour among the pupils anyway!). The affair was 100% true as it made the local papers, both were suspended and never came back ;D
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Honest question: Who's more likely to succeed in your school, the highly intelligent rebel or the compliant dipshit?
Succeed at what?
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NCAA basketball championship (or any major sporting event really) being only on a cable channel instead of broadcast TV.
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Thankfully, I never put myself in the crosshairs except once. I neighbor who I helps called me out and wanted to fight at a well known spot around the school. I told him I would not fight him.
I didn't show up. The next day, many harassed me. So at gym class, in the locker room I confronted jim. He said he wouldn't fight on school grounds. I proceeded to destroy him. And then called out those who harassed me.
No one challenged Mr and no one said a word about the incident. No one ever bothered me again.
I didn't feel good about it snd never understood why he challenged me.
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Not sure if the right place, but just ranting a bit about the wedding I went to over the weekend....
So my gf's college friend got married, they live in Maryland and she is Indian. So they had this big wedding at the Live! casino near Baltimore. This was the worst wedding I've been to. So being that the bride is Indian, they wanted to do a partial hindu traditional wedding. The groom was Christian so they did a quick 20 minute Christian ceremony, which was more American traditional.
Well, to start, they said to be there at 2pm and service starts at 3pm. I got there at 2:40. The service didn't start until 3:30. Then the Hindo service didn't end until 5:30. The service itself was MISERABLE. Now I get it, a lot of it was traditional stuff that I don't udnerstand and was in a different language. But what truly made it bad, you couldn't see anything because of all the big flowers in the way. You couldn't hear anything because the guy didn't talk loud enough. There was no organization so there were long moments of confusion and silence. The little pamphlet they handed out stating the things happening was way off from what actually happened. The couple never said their vows (something I know they wrote because my gf had to print it out for the bride) and they never did a first kiss. It was just very awkward and terribly long ceremony.
So now the cocktail hour, which got pushed back into the reception because the ceremony went too long. There was no food! A few people came out with apps to hand out, but the large starving crowd literally would eat them all before they could even got out of the kitchen door. It was savage.
Finally got into the reception room. The DJ was all confused because the bride and groom werent to be found. So the festivities inside the hall were all delayed. They had a buffet they opened up and it was all the worst food I may have ever had. It was indian food, which I like, but none of it tasted good including the worst lobster dish I may have ever tasted.
My gf was the maid of honor and eventually gave her speech, but people just talked over her. I was so annoyed because people legit asked her after "when is your speech?" My gf's parents were there, they actually left the hall to get food elsewhere it was THAT bad. The mom of the bride asked on the mic if everyone was enjoying the food and there was silence :lol
Eventually the wedding ended and we went to the casino where the booze, music, and food were all light years better than in the wedding hall. I don't think I saw the bride and groom smile the entire day / night. At least it was a different experience.
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Eh, it sounds like most of the weddings I've had to suffer through.
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I'm so glad that I haven't been to a wedding in 11 years. I was invited to a few out of town weddings for college friends, but our kids were just born and I declined. In the mid-late 00's, I averaged 4-5 weddings per year between coworkers, college friends and family. It was awful. We counted that we had attended 30+ weddings during those years.
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Eh, it sounds like most of the weddings I've had to suffer through.
Most wedding I've attended have been fun. It's usually hit or miss with food and the events of the actual wedding, but generally, there's a joy and happiness in the room. There was none of that, it felt like everyone was miserable :lol
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I can honestly say I've enjoyed all the weddings I've gone to.
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I've got a wedding this Saturday to go to.
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I don't think I saw the bride and groom smile the entire day / night.
Hopefully, you'll enjoy their second weddings a lot more.
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I fucking hate going to weddings.
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Hopefully, you'll enjoy their second weddings a lot more.
:lol
Yeah, definitely didn't get the loving feelings from that wedding. I had never met this couple before, but my first impression was "is the groom gay?"
I fucking hate going to weddings.
Not surprised by that. I'm not a big social guy, but if the wedding has an open bar and a band, it's almost guaranteed a good time for me. I've also been to a few shit weddings but had a lot of fun just hanging with friends or family.
My older sister still had my favorite wedding, great food, live band, open bar, and the people filled the dance floor. It was just so much fun. My college roommates wedding wasn't that far behind for all the same reasons.
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My favorite wedding to attend as a guest was my cousin's. They live in Vegas and got married off the strip at a golf club. The reception included a performance from an Elvis impersonator, who was awesome...but my mom ruined that mystique by asking my cousin where he knew of that guy. The response was "well, he's just a guy on my bowling league." :lol After the reception, the family that had traveled out to Vegas went to the little off-the-strip hotel/casino (The Silverton) to party, enjoyed a band playing in the bar and stayed up basically all night. I was 22 or 23 at the time, so it was just a magical family trip, where the parents were in their 40's/50's/60's and my generation were in all our 20's or 30's. In the years that followed, the family started drifting apart, my aunts and my mom all developed alzheimer's and things changed. But those years were about as close as our extended family ever was.
We had a smaller destination wedding in FL and some of my cousins and aunts came, but it wasn't quite as raucous as an all-nighter in Vegas.
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Nick's wedding was hella fun.
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My favorite wedding to attend as a guest was my cousin's. They live in Vegas and got married off the strip at a golf club. The reception included a performance from an Elvis impersonator, who was awesome...but my mom ruined that mystique by asking my cousin where he knew of that guy. The response was "well, he's just a guy on my bowling league." :lol After the reception, the family that had traveled out to Vegas went to the little off-the-strip hotel/casino (The Silverton) to party, enjoyed a band playing in the bar and stayed up basically all night. I was 22 or 23 at the time, so it was just a magical family trip, where the parents were in their 40's/50's/60's and my generation were in all our 20's or 30's. In the years that followed, the family started drifting apart, my aunts and my mom all developed alzheimer's and things changed. But those years were about as close as our extended family ever was.
We had a smaller destination wedding in FL and some of my cousins and aunts came, but it wasn't quite as raucous as an all-nighter in Vegas.
My brother's wedding had a Michael Jackson impersonator. Apparently the guy is a family friend of my brother's wife's family and does the gig at a lot of their family parties so it was only appropriate for him to do the act at the wedding. It was a lot of fun. Hung out with him later in the night when his gig was over, he was heading to tour europe doing it soon :lol
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Nick's wedding was hella fun.
Hell fuckin yeah it was :metal Best wedding I've been to, and that includes my own! :lol
The Groom was just ok.
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Hell fuckin yeah it was :metal Best wedding I've been to, and that includes my own! :lol
The Groom was just ok.
I don't remember a groom.
I do remember a dashing Canadian fella making everyone look bad on the dance floor.
I also remember a lot of long guitar solos.
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Roundabouts, or traffic circles or whatever they're called in America... man, people round my way just don't understand how they work. You don't give way to someone trying to enter when you're already in it! See also: four way stops. Stop trying to be polite and let me out first, there's a damn system!
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Roundabouts, or traffic circles or whatever they're called in America... man, people round my way just don't understand how they work. You don't give way to someone trying to enter when you're already in it! See also: four way stops. Stop trying to be polite and let me out first, there's a damn system!
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Roundabouts are quite annoying when you hit a bunch in the row driving in the Netherlands, but I think that's a better solution than lights or 4 way stops. Too bad us Americans, generally, don't understand how to drive.
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We call it a rotary around here. When we went to Ireland, I thought they'd be a huge problem with driving on the opposite side and all, but honestly, they made it easier to navigate the intersections. There was no thought involved, just go with the flow.
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I don't remember a groom.
I do remember a dashing Canadian fella making everyone look bad on the dance floor.
I also remember a lot of long guitar solos.
I remember scotch and cigars, and three awesome bald fellas.
And tiny hats.
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Roundabouts, or traffic circles or whatever they're called in America... man, people round my way just don't understand how they work. You don't give way to someone trying to enter when you're already in it! See also: four way stops. Stop trying to be polite and let me out first, there's a damn system!
This sort of thing makes me laugh, happens quite a bit here too. I'm sitting there waiting for someone who has right away yet they wave me to go through. "No bitch, learn the road rules, you have right away." I sit there in principle and make them go through no matter how much they try and wave me through.
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This sort of thing makes me laugh, happens quite a bit here too. I'm sitting there waiting for someone who has right away yet they wave me to go through. "No bitch, learn the road rules, you have right away." I sit there in principle and make them go through no matter how much they try and wave me through.
I try to do the same but usually crack if they are really insisting (and we're the only two at the stop), then speed off with my hands in the air in incredulity :rollin
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I try to do the same but usually crack if they are really insisting (and we're the only two at the stop), then speed off with my hands in the air in incredulity :rollin
:rollin Outstanding! Yeah, to be fair, there has been a couple of times where the other person has out sat me and I've ended up doing the same thing.
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Roundabouts, or traffic circles or whatever they're called in America... man, people round my way just don't understand how they work. You don't give way to someone trying to enter when you're already in it! See also: four way stops. Stop trying to be polite and let me out first, there's a damn system!
We have the opposite problem - in my county outside of Chicago, they've built a handful of them and people don't understand them at all. They think they're merging onto a highway, so they go as fast as they can to try and race someone else from getting into the roundabout first, rather than slow down as they approach in case they have to yield. I always slow down when I see someone approaching from the left - I'll let them go first, rather than enter at my own slower speed.
What I truly hate is when people stay glued to the bumpers of the car ahead of them as they enter, so you have a train of 4-5 cars all entering from one side, preventing others on the right from entering at an orderly flow.
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We don't have them down South (and I think of them as roundabouts), but I've come to appreciate them when I come across them. As Cram said, they're a big improvement over 4 way stops (and probably cause even less confusion).
As for people trying to wave me in ahead of my turn, it's amazing how annoying somebody can be when they're just trying to be courteous. When I approach an intersection I know who's where on all four sides, and who should be going when. Comes with being both observant and highly aggressive. I'll actually time my stop to make sure I'm quite obviously the first or last to arrive. Seems like that should make things easier, but it damn sure does not.
One of life's great annoyances is people who simply cannot enter an intersection unless all other cars have come to a complete stop. I don't blindly assume that oncoming traffic is going to stop, that would be foolish, but once they've already begun stopping, made eye contact, and perhaps even waved me through, I do trust that they're not going to suddenly stomp on it to T-bone me like some idiot criminals from a bad episode of CHiPs.
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This sort of thing makes me laugh, happens quite a bit here too. I'm sitting there waiting for someone who has right away yet they wave me to go through. "No bitch, learn the road rules, you have right away." I sit there in principle and make them go through no matter how much they try and wave me through.
As annoying as it is, I'm not playing games with the road idiots. If they wave me on, I'm going even if it makes no sense. Of course I'll still check the angles and make sure it's safe and no one else is assuming proper protocol from the other directions. Got to watch out for that person waving you to turn right into another vehicle
When I approach an intersection I know who's where on all four sides, and who should be going when. Comes with being both observant and highly aggressive. I'll actually time my stop to make sure I'm quite obviously the first or last to arrive. Seems like that should make things easier, but it damn sure does not.
ha, actually did that this morning at my local 4 way stop. Saw a car from each direction and just slowed down before hitting the stop sign to obviously be the last one and it worked well today.
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I remember scotch and cigars, and three awesome bald fellas.
And tiny hats.
Your memory serves you well.
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Your memory serves you well.
And a dildo in a knitted hat. :rollin :rollin
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And a dildo in a knitted hat. :rollin :rollin
I have it on good authority that Jackie has that in every rider she has. She won’t show without it.
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RE: idiot drivers... I can not stand people who don't understand how to merge. Take this location for instance:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3366734,-111.893832,350m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
Going south there are people on a frontage road merging with people coming off the freeway - all headed towards a stop light. People will literally STOP in either lane. I've seen people stop on the front road waiting for a break in the freeway offramp or even worse, drivers coming off the freeway stopping. It creates unsafe driving to just stop when the expected process is to slow and merge.
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RE: idiot drivers... I can not stand people who don't understand how to merge. Take this location for instance:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3366734,-111.893832,350m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
Going south there are people on a frontage road merging with people coming off the freeway - all headed towards a stop light. People will literally STOP in either lane. I've seen people stop on the front road waiting for a break in the freeway offramp or even worse, drivers coming off the freeway stopping. It creates unsafe driving to just stop when the expected process is to slow and merge.
Lol... I know that area all too well! Spent many drives on that exact ramp on the way to the office when I was in AZ. And yeah, that merging and lane swapping was a bit of a gong show at morning and afternoon rush hours. I purposefully would try to come into the office before 8, or after 9:30 or 10, and leave around 6 to avoid that nightmare. Fortunately, I was often coming from the south, and not need to hit that area.
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Tickets went on sale today for a guy named Andrea Bocelli. The concert is in December.
My mom mentioned she wanted to go, so I thought I'd buy her tickets for Mothers' Day. I waited for tickets to go on sale and I was 90th in the queue. I was let in at 10:01, and by that time, more than half of the tickets for the show were unavailable. Floor seats were $1000 per, and the shittiest nosebleed seats were still commanding a whopping $247 each (cheapest seat available). Keep in mind, these are not resale or scalping prices. This is what the primary market is being asked to pay.
(https://i.imgur.com/WgpisQV.png)
What gives? Who the hell is this guy? How can his act cost more than a viewing of Turandot at The Met in NYC? (Turandot is arguably the most lavish opera there is, and one that requires a small army of people, both on and off stage, to pull off).
Needless to say, my mom will be getting something else for Mothers' Day.
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Well, Bocelli is one of the greatest singers who ever lived, so there's that.
But I've always questioned whether it really IS the "primary market" or not; it's really hard to tell how that works, and if you look at that seat plan there's ZERO rhyme or reason as to what seats are gone and what remain. For the same price, why would you buy tickets five rows further back if you were given the opportunity to move up? Makes no sense.
I do not trust the ticketing algorithms for the bigger shows.
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Well, Bocelli is one of the greatest singers who ever lived, so there's that.
Yup, this is expected actually.
But it's also a sign of the times. Concert tickets are outrageous for the top acts like this. It's the same with trying to see Aerosmith. My local show was $250 face value for the worst seat in the house. No thanks.
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Well, Bocelli is one of the greatest singers who ever lived, so there's that.
I saw Clay Aiken at the Big E for free.
I kid, I kid. But still... $900+ for the 30th row seems absolutely insane to me. I can't think of any other artist, or band, that has come close to that. I've seen seats sell for that much in the first few rows for certain acts, but the entire floor commanding that price is something else. I've never seen anything like it.
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Just last week I saw someone go the wrong direction in a roundabout. There’s signs with arrows pointing which way traffic is supposed to flow. How do you fuck up that badly?
At that same roundabout, I’ve also seen someone drive straight ahead and crash into the bushes in the median.
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Just last week I saw someone go the wrong direction in a roundabout. There’s signs with arrows pointing which way traffic is supposed to flow. How do you fuck up that badly?
At that same roundabout, I’ve also seen someone drive straight ahead and crash into the bushes in the median.
Sounds like a nightmare to remember
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I saw Clay Aiken at the Big E for free.
I kid, I kid. But still... $900+ for the 30th row seems absolutely insane to me. I can't think of any other artist, or band, that has come close to that. I've seen seats sell for that much in the first few rows for certain acts, but the entire floor commanding that price is something else. I've never seen anything like it.
You aren't looking hard enough! :lol seriously, just go search some of the biggest names touring and you'll see. I don't know who can afford this, but people pay it! It's incredible to me that people will fork that much money for a concert, and this is coming from someone who LOVES concerts. I guess I can see a scenario where I will pay serious money to see a show, but that's like "Iron maidens final show" type of thing. Not a typical tour.
I've gone to 5 shows this year for $50 and under. I'd rather just stack up and see more small shows than fork out something insane for one night.
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Yup, this is expected actually.
But it's also a sign of the times. Concert tickets are outrageous for the top acts like this. It's the same with trying to see Aerosmith. My local show was $250 face value for the worst seat in the house. No thanks.
$99 for seats behind the stage. Your on point, though. Even down here that's one stupidly expensive show. I have to wonder who's actually buying these things. "OhmygodiftheyplayCryingI'lljustdie!"
Tickets went on sale today for a guy named Andrea Bocelli. The concert is in December.
My mom mentioned she wanted to go, so I thought I'd buy her tickets for Mothers' Day. I waited for tickets to go on sale and I was 90th in the queue. I was let in at 10:01, and by that time, more than half of the tickets for the show were unavailable. Floor seats were $1000 per, and the shittiest nosebleed seats were still commanding a whopping $247 each (cheapest seat available). Keep in mind, these are not resale or scalping prices. This is what the primary market is being asked to pay.
Same as Cram. Your point is valid, that's a stupidly expensive ticket, but there are plenty of $119 tickets in the nosebleeds, and that's after TT&L.
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Not arguing or saying you're wrong, I'm just genuinely curious. What acts today can get that kind of money show after show? Outside of Taylor Swift, a few one-off reunion shows, or something crazy unique like a residency at The Sphere in Vegas, who else can charge $900+ for every floor seat in the house? With the exception of maybe a half dozen bands/acts. I've all but given up on seeing concerts. I haven't done a whole lot of ticket shopping these last few years.
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Well, Bocelli is one of the greatest singers who ever lived, so there's that.
But I've always questioned whether it really IS the "primary market" or not; it's really hard to tell how that works, and if you look at that seat plan there's ZERO rhyme or reason as to what seats are gone and what remain. For the same price, why would you buy tickets five rows further back if you were given the opportunity to move up? Makes no sense.
I do not trust the ticketing algorithms for the bigger shows.
There's some truth to this. If I were one of the people in charge of making this thing fair every ticket would have a face value, known in advance of the on-sale date. That's something that never happens anymore. In part because of dynamic "in demand" pricing, and in part because they simply don't want to scare people off. Anybody who adds tickets to their cart and then freaks out at paying 33% in TT&L is just naive; we all know the story. Finding out that the base price of the ticket is $249 while you're on the clock and people are fighting for the few remaining tickets is just plain wrong.
That said, I've learned the game very well. I know how it works and I know how to do alright (or make another plan). I'd like it if concerts were cheaper, but that's simply not going to happen.
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Same as Cram. Your point is valid, that's a stupidly expensive ticket, but there are plenty of $119 tickets in the nosebleeds, and that's after TT&L.
To the specific show I mentioned? They must've opened up more seats as the day has gone on, because at 10AM, $247 was the cheapest seat in the venue (you can see that on the slider under the price filter).
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Not arguing or saying you're wrong, I'm just genuinely curious. What acts today can get that kind of money show after show? Outside of Taylor Swift, a few one-off reunion shows, or something crazy unique like a residency at The Sphere in Vegas, who else can charge $900+ for every floor seat in the house? With the exception of maybe a half dozen bands/acts. I've all but given up on seeing concerts. I haven't done a whole lot of ticket shopping these last few years.
Any artist that's gong to sell out the venue he's playing. It really is that simple. Until artists adopt the Garth Brooks model and just play as many dates as it takes to not sell out, this will continue to happen. Bocelli will absolutely sell out the Garden. Very quickly, I suspect. He knows it. The scalpers know it. Live Nation knows it.
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To the specific show I mentioned? They must've opened up more seats as the day has gone on, because at 10AM, $247 was the cheapest seat in the venue (you can see that on the slider under the price filter).
My bad. I'm getting my yankee chums mixed up. :lol You're looking at Mohegan Sun, and yeah, they're going to scalp you. Most of that's simply the venue. Both Boston Garden and MSG had much more normally priced tickets available. Still stupidly expensive for uppers, but nothing like what the Red Man's gouging you for.
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My bad. I'm getting my yankee chums mixed up. :lol You're looking at Mohegan Sun, and yeah, they're going to scalp you. Most of that's simply the venue. Both Boston Garden and MSG had much more normally priced tickets available. Still stupidly expensive for uppers, but nothing like what the Red Man's gouging you for.
:lol
I actually reached out to the venue to complain. Not so much about the prices, but more to voice my frustration that half the venue was already unavailable when I was only the 90th person in line. The response I got said Mohegan has absolutely no control over the price of the tickets. Andrea's people basically pay a flat-fee for the venue, and then his people set the prices.
They dodged the topic of available tickets entirely. My guess is that there's an agreement between the venue and the talent where Mohegan gets 'X' number of seats to give away and comp. If that's the case, maybe Andrea's people have to jack up the prices of the remaining 60% that they're allowed to sell.
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My bad. I'm getting my yankee chums mixed up. :lol You're looking at Mohegan Sun, and yeah, they're going to scalp you. Most of that's simply the venue. Both Boston Garden and MSG had much more normally priced tickets available. Still stupidly expensive for uppers, but nothing like what the Red Man's gouging you for.
I didn't look myself, but would have thought MSG would be more expensive than CT, but I guess that could be a casino thing. MSG concerts seem to be more expensive than alternatives usually.
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I actually reached out to the venue to complain. Not so much about the prices, but more to voice my frustration that half the venue was already unavailable when I was only the 90th person in line. The response I got said Mohegan has absolutely no control over the price of the tickets. Andrea's people basically pay a flat-fee for the venue, and then his people set the prices.
They dodged the topic of available tickets entirely. My guess is that's there's an agreement between the venue and the talent where Mohegan gets 'X' number of seats to give away and comp. If that's the case, maybe Andrea's people have to jack up the prices of the remaining 60% that they're allowed to sell.
Is this part of a pre-sale? Usually there's like multiple different pre-sale codes with different seats allocated to the codes. So you are never going to see all the tickets available during the presales, from my experience. You'll have to wait until the full sale, but then you risk the seats being completely unavailable and/or paying a higher price. I've noticed some pre-sale prices to be cheaper than normal sale.
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I didn't see anything that indicated it was a presale. There wasn't any code or special access. The public just had to wait until 10:00 this morning for the "buy tickets" button to become active.
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I didn't see anything that indicated it was a presale. There wasn't any code or special access. The public just had to wait until 10:00 this morning for the "buy tickets" button to become active.
Ah so if it was public, then I'd guess all those other seats were sold during the presale then.
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It's a well known fact that at the original on-sale time only a small percentage of tickets are sold. This was a big scandal 15 years go whenever some other blond haired tart was selling out stadiums. Citibank gets a bunch of them. The promoter gets a bunch of them. The artist gets a bunch of them. Any sponsors get a bunch of them. The venue gets a bunch of them (in this case casino comps). Of the tickets that are left for the public, which could be as low as 33%, half of them will be "platinum" tickets. More still will be sold as part of packages. If there's a presale some will be sold then and some will be held back for the regular sale.
This only further drives up demand since the supply is artificially limited. And as much as people bitch about bots grabbing tickets for the scalpers, in truth it's all of those holdbacks that get resold for beau coup dollaros.
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I think the most shocking part of this is there are people who didn't know Andrea Bocelli is basically Taylor Swift (in terms of how big/popular) for his genre (opera). I mean, he's not a billionaire artist, but he's about as big as they come in opera.
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I think the most shocking part of this is there are people who didn't know Andrea Bocelli is basically Taylor Swift (in terms of how big/popular) for his genre (opera). I mean, he's not a billionaire artist, but he's about as big as they come in opera.
Interestingly, I've never thought of him as an opera singer at all. He's a tenor with an operatic voice, but I'd call him more of a pop singer, honestly. A quarter of his set will be famous arias, but there will be a ton of movie music, traditionals, pop songs, and famous tunes from musicals. And in truth, the only aria people who go to his concerts are really interested in hearing is Nessun Dorma (which they know because of Pavaratti). :lol
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It's a well known fact that at the original on-sale time only a small percentage of tickets are sold. This was a big scandal 15 years go whenever some other blond haired tart was selling out stadiums. Citibank gets a bunch of them. The promoter gets a bunch of them. The artist gets a bunch of them. Any sponsors get a bunch of them. The venue gets a bunch of them (in this case casino comps). Of the tickets that are left for the public, which could be as low as 33%, half of them will be "platinum" tickets. More still will be sold as part of packages. If there's a presale some will be sold then and some will be held back for the regular sale.
This only further drives up demand since the supply is artificially limited. And as much as people bitch about bots grabbing tickets for the scalpers, in truth it's all of those holdbacks that get resold for beau coup dollaros.
El Barto has it nailed. I worked at a venue in college (so my info is 10+ years old) in the admin office and got a peak into how things worked with ticketing and that's how it was at the time. Banks of tickets get held back for certain promotions/partnerships. Additionally service fees would fluctuate and at times artists would get kickbacks to service fees all while being able to say "OMG TM FEES ARE OUT OF CONTROL". It's a lot more complicated, and frustrating system now .
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Not arguing or saying you're wrong, I'm just genuinely curious. What acts today can get that kind of money show after show? Outside of Taylor Swift, a few one-off reunion shows, or something crazy unique like a residency at The Sphere in Vegas, who else can charge $900+ for every floor seat in the house? With the exception of maybe a half dozen bands/acts. I've all but given up on seeing concerts. I haven't done a whole lot of ticket shopping these last few years.
Who CAN and who DOES are not the same things. My daughter sold a Harry Styles ticket at MSG for $1000 day of his last show there. That's scalping, but if a person is going to pay that on Stubhub, presumably they will pay it on the Ticketmaster site.
You all know this, but I'll say it again; there is no industry quite like the ticket industry (and why I don't trust Ticketmaster et al). NO OTHER business sells their product at such a discount at the point of sale that there's an entire industry in place to take advantage of the arbitrage.
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Who CAN and who DOES are not the same things. My daughter sold a Harry Styles ticket at MSG for $1000 day of his last show there. That's scalping, but if a person is going to pay that on Stubhub, presumably they will pay it on the Ticketmaster site.
You all know this, but I'll say it again; there is no industry quite like the ticket industry (and why I don't trust Ticketmaster et al). NO OTHER business sells their product at such a discount at the point of sale that there's an entire industry in place to take advantage of the arbitrage.
Sports do it too.
But it comes down to live events really. Promoters aren't perfect at knowing the price points. I think I have an example of that as well. My local amphitheater, where I see like 5-10 shows a summer every year, seems like they mispriced a lot of concerts this summer. I haven't bought a single ticket because of that yet. The shows are either completely sold out (likely priced it too low) or they are very poorly sold (priced too high). I went through this morning to check every show I had interest in and noticed this. There was even one show were none of the seats were sold but the lawn was sold out. Some of this makes no sense to me, but I think it comes down to promoters getting things wrong and therefore the secondary market kind of corrects that.
As for my sistuation, Livenation usually does a summer sale so I'll see if I can get tickets for the shows I want that way, and the others just wait till day of for a deal because the face value for a lot of those shows is too ridiculous to pay for me.
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My bad. I'm getting my yankee chums mixed up. :lol You're looking at Mohegan Sun, and yeah, they're going to scalp you. Most of that's simply the venue. Both Boston Garden and MSG had much more normally priced tickets available. Still stupidly expensive for uppers, but nothing like what the Red Man's gouging you for.
So full disclosure, I know people down there, and yet, for all the shows I see, I RARELY EVER go to Mohegan for a show. If a band I like is there, I usually skip them or go see them in NY or Boston. I have yet to ever be able to get tickets first run through the Ticketmaster, and the aftermarket down there is insane. Honestly, other than Keith Urban (read: night out with the wife) I haven't seen a show there since either Extreme's 25th anniversary show for Pornograffiti, or Asia when they played the Wolf's Den.
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Who CAN and who DOES are not the same things. My daughter sold a Harry Styles ticket at MSG for $1000 day of his last show there. That's scalping, but if a person is going to pay that on Stubhub, presumably they will pay it on the Ticketmaster site.
You all know this, but I'll say it again; there is no industry quite like the ticket industry (and why I don't trust Ticketmaster et al). NO OTHER business sells their product at such a discount at the point of sale that there's an entire industry in place to take advantage of the arbitrage.
Yep, which is how the scalpers have defended their model for years. Tickets are undervalued.
Here's the thing. Not only are tickets undervalued in that sense, there's layer upon layer of obfuscation going on. To begin with, you've got two different layers of ticket scalping. The traditional brokers, and the official channel that is TM's dynamic pricing. I just checked tickets for Shakira (and yes, I would have bought some to resell had they been available), and "face" for lowers is $325+TT&L. That's the non-platinum, non-package tickets. If any are left, and they won't be, the day of the show those will sell for ~$100. That's probably about where they start. That's the artist scalping their own tickets (and more power to them, I guess, if only they were honest about it). And nowhere is it actually mentioned. It's just listed as the "standard" price.
As I mentioned there's no longer an actual "Face" value that anybody is allowed to know about, so casual buyers won't know that they're paying scalper prices for them. Then factor in that there are 10 different pricing packages for the good seats. You don't just buy a ticket, but you buy some sort of swag or experience jacking the prices up. If there are standalone tickets available they'll be listed as "platinum," and again because there is no fixed starting price, you have no idea how much of an increase is tacked on. Floors are probably $250 tickets that they're selling for $1000. Again, if there are any left, they'll sell for that $250 the day of the show.
The whole thing really is pretty sleazy, but not in the ways that people assume. "Thirty-three percent fees!" If you're caught by surprise by that then you've already gotten fucked 3 times before getting to that point.
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Sports do it too.
But it comes down to live events really. Promoters aren't perfect at knowing the price points. I think I have an example of that as well. My local amphitheater, where I see like 5-10 shows a summer every year, seems like they mispriced a lot of concerts this summer. I haven't bought a single ticket because of that yet. The shows are either completely sold out (likely priced it too low) or they are very poorly sold (priced too high). I went through this morning to check every show I had interest in and noticed this. There was even one show were none of the seats were sold but the lawn was sold out. Some of this makes no sense to me, but I think it comes down to promoters getting things wrong and therefore the secondary market kind of corrects that.
As for my sistuation, Livenation usually does a summer sale so I'll see if I can get tickets for the shows I want that way, and the others just wait till day of for a deal because the face value for a lot of those shows is too ridiculous to pay for me.
I saw that yesterday when I was looking at Bocelli tickets. The last 10 rows of the upper balcony were completely sold out, and very little of the front half was. There was a really stark line there. Clearly there was far more demand for $85 nosebleeds than elsewhere.
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I actually reached out to the venue to complain. Not so much about the prices, but more to voice my frustration that half the venue was already unavailable when I was only the 90th person in line. The response I got said Mohegan has absolutely no control over the price of the tickets. Andrea's people basically pay a flat-fee for the venue, and then his people set the prices.
They dodged the topic of available tickets entirely. My guess is that there's an agreement between the venue and the talent where Mohegan gets 'X' number of seats to give away and comp. If that's the case, maybe Andrea's people have to jack up the prices of the remaining 60% that they're allowed to sell.
I'm in this camp, and while I have no hard proof - I'll use the recent A7X show as an example. I was in this thread complaining the day tix went on sale re: the ridiculous cost. Fast forward to a week before the show, and low and behold, I get the email from Mohegan for two comp tix (likely due to the poor sales as a result of inflated prices, at least compared to other 'local' stops on their tour). I get they want to reward people who drop $1000's of dollars down there but the number of tickets they reserve for this process is obviously too much. As evidenced by the fact they were comping ME, who has spent all of $50 there outside of food in the past year.
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So for the record, the process isn't the same for every act that comes to Mohegan. Prince, for example, rented the building and handled EVERYTHING, from ticketing to merch, to load out to paying the roadies. I don't know about concessions, but everything else was handled - and therefore prices set - by the artist. When Springsteen played there, he was paid a flat fee (and WHAT a fee!) and paid his band and crew, leaving everything else - ticketing, concessions, etc. - to the casino, with the proviso that the most expensive ticket couldn't exceed "$x". I know the numbers, and I will just say, simple math says the tickets are a loss leader to getting bodies into the casino and buying $12.00 bottles of water. Most acts are not Prince or Bruce and fall somewhere in between.
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So for the record, the process isn't the same for every act that comes to Mohegan. Prince, for example, rented the building and handled EVERYTHING, from ticketing to merch, to load out to paying the roadies. I don't know about concessions, but everything else was handled - and therefore prices set - by the artist. When Springsteen played there, he was paid a flat fee (and WHAT a fee!) and paid his band and crew, leaving everything else - ticketing, concessions, etc. - to the casino, with the proviso that the most expensive ticket couldn't exceed "$x". I know the numbers, and I will just say, simple math says the tickets are a loss leader to getting bodies into the casino and buying $12.00 bottles of water. Most acts are not Prince or Bruce and fall somewhere in between.
Completely agree. I'm sure there are exceptions, especially when considering the fan demographic expected to attend. Springsteen, for example, will draw a more - seasoned (read: aged, haha) - crowd than A7X will bring. I'm sure they're more willing to take a loss on Springsteen knowing those fans will more likely have more disposable income to leave behind than those attending other shows.
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Here's what pissed me off this morning...
When you are stuck in traffic on the highway, and the traffic breaks, yet people still drive as if there's a reason for the slow down.
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Maybe they're just being safe?
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Maybe they're just being safe?
What?
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Maybe they're just being safe?
If by "safe" you mean "have their head up their ass", I'm sure you're right. There are a LOT of inconsiderate drivers out there, and by that I mean drivers that don't realize how much their actions - or failure to act - impacts other drivers. I was at a stop light in the middle lane, hoping to turn right. I was about a car length from the start of the right turn lane. At the red light was a car two up from me that was stopped almost a full car length from the car in front of them. Texting. If they had moved up only a couple feet - still within the realm of "safe" - I could have made the turn lane and cut almost five minutes off of my commute time. Nope. Texting away, oblivious. I tooted the horn as I went by and they just looked at me, dumbfounded.
Another car - same road, by the way, but a different time - in the left of the two lanes and few if any cars around them. I was turning left ahead, and there is a left turn lane. The turn signal is green and I was hoping to hit the light because it's a long one (four directions, four separate turn signals). This asshole is cruising like he's in Grease, going barely 20 mph. I tooted again, and got the finger. Once the turn lane opened, I shot around him, but I missed the light. As fortune has it, HIS light then turned green and he got to go on his merry way being a menace. It is what it is; I was more observatory than feeling any emotion about it, but it did make me... is "sad" the word, the way that so many people are just so self-immersed? Does it make any wonder that we talk about the things we talk about in P/R?
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Maybe they're just being safe?
Going 20 below the speed limit when there is no reason, is the opposite of safe.
I understand there's an adjustment period to the traffic ending and people's cars all accelerate at different speeds, but it's when people aren't acting and paying attention to the fact that the high congestion merge is in the past and you can move at normal speed now.
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Going 20 below the speed limit when there is no reason, is the opposite of safe.
I understand there's an adjustment period to the traffic ending and people's cars all accelerate at different speeds, but it's when people aren't acting and paying attention to the fact that the high congestion merge is in the past and you can move at normal speed now.
Ah, I think I understand now, I think I misread your original post and thought you meant the moments immediately after the traffic ceased. If it's some time later and they're still driving like that they're probably just oblivious
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The police-state response to the college protests in the US is shocking but not surprising. Hopefully eye opening for a lot of folks. And the attitude from many of 'shut up and get back to class! Get over yourselves!' is hugely telling. To so many people, the idea that you could care about other people's struggles and oppression is just completely alien. 'Fuck you got mine'.
Anyways that is what continues to piss me off today(s)
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The police-state response to the college protests in the US is shocking but not surprising. Hopefully eye opening for a lot of folks. And the attitude from many of 'shut up and get back to class! Get over yourselves!' is hugely telling. To so many people, the idea that you could care about other people's struggles and oppression is just completely alien. 'Fuck you got mine'.
Anyways that is what continues to piss me off today(s)
I don't, actually, disagree with you, these people ought to be able to protest whatever they want, peaceably and civily. We don't have to agree with them. But at least at Yale, this stuff isn't happening in a vacuum. Google the Yale Halloween issue; the students kind of want to have it both ways at times and that's hard to reconcile.
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I don't, actually, disagree with you, these people ought to be able to protest whatever they want, peaceably and civily. We don't have to agree with them. But at least at Yale, this stuff isn't happening in a vacuum. Google the Yale Halloween issue; the students kind of want to have it both ways at times and that's hard to reconcile.
Agreed.
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I think above all I hope these police-state responses on campuses just highlight how much of a scam higher education is in this country.
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I think above all I hope these police-state responses on campuses just highlight how much of a scam higher education is in this country.
They don’t seem related.
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They don’t seem related.
I think it's related in the sense where you see Op-Eds in the NYT with these whiney trustafarian professors who have never worked a real day in their life complaining that the protests are disrupting campus life. To me that kind of pathetic response just highlights how cartoonishly corrupt these big private schools are.
EDIT: here's the piece I was referring to
(https://i.imgur.com/tzPXLKc.jpeg)
How did Columbia University hire this absolute moron?
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The police-state response to the college protests in the US is shocking but not surprising. Hopefully eye opening for a lot of folks. And the attitude from many of 'shut up and get back to class! Get over yourselves!' is hugely telling.
This is me, so what is it telling?
And Police State? Really?
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I think it's related in the sense where you see Op-Eds in the NYT with these whiney trustafarian professors who have never worked a real day in their life complaining that the protests are disrupting campus life. To me that kind of pathetic response just highlights how cartoonishly corrupt these big private schools are.
EDIT: here's the piece I was referring to
(https://i.imgur.com/tzPXLKc.jpeg)
How did Columbia University hire this absolute moron?
My wife and I were discussing that.
I actually get what he's saying. It'd be like trying to listen to 4:33 while a marching band plays in the background. It misses the point.
That's obviously up for debate, but I don't see how he's a moron.
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Exactly. Why are we disrupting everyone else's life because you have nothing better to do than protest something half a world away at some random college campus? Go over and fucking fight if you feel so strongly about it. Just get the fuck out of my face with your self righteousness.
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I’m also fine with protests disrupting class.
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I’m also fine with protests disrupting class.
For an afternoon, sure whatever.
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For an afternoon, sure whatever.
I was just told they started setting up tents at the university I work for.
Should be fun!
Though my school is a commuter school, and I doubt the students will want to stay on campus too terribly long.
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I think it's related in the sense where you see Op-Eds in the NYT with these whiney trustafarian professors who have never worked a real day in their life complaining that the protests are disrupting campus life.
What the fuck does that mean?
To me that kind of pathetic response just highlights how cartoonishly corrupt these big private schools are.
EDIT: here's the piece I was referring to
(https://i.imgur.com/tzPXLKc.jpeg)
How did Columbia University hire this absolute moron?
In what way is he a moron?
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The song invites you to sit in silence and listen and absorb your surroundings. Except when it's about a protest I disagree with, then it's just "distracting noise"
The point is this guy is missing the entire point of Cage's piece if he thinks there are "noises" that this piece shouldn't be listened to with. Someone mentioned a marching band as background, and I don't see how that'd be any different. The point of the piece is to listen to what is "here and now" and if it's a marching band, or loud protests, what is the difference? The point is to STFU and listen. And publicizing that there are exceptions to that are the most obvious way to signal you have no idea why the Cage piece is important. Hard for me to comprehend how someone that closed minded and, frankly, dumb, got a job teaching at a university that is supposed to be as prestigious as Columbia
The political nature of these "noises" is obviously the thing the guy takes issue with and it's incredibly dubious and obviously a bad faith argument for him to try and make it about distracting noise. I highly doubt John Cage only intended his piece to be listened to under conditions only a milquetoast liberal would be comfortable with. It's art, get offended and think a bit!
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It’s Cage. Not Cale.
And your perspective is also extremely valid. If he had a different intention, that doesn’t make him a moron. It’s a good debate to have.
Plus plenty of professors do dumb things.
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It’s Cage. Not Cale.
And your perspective is also extremely valid. If he had a different intention, that doesn’t make him a moron. It’s a good debate to have.
Plus plenty of professors do some things.
I am forever confusing those two names lmao. thank you for the correction, will edit.
and I appreciate you saying my perspective is valid. thanks
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I think above all I hope these police-state responses on campuses just highlight how much of a scam higher education is in this country.
To Adami's point, they aren't related. And while higher education has it's issues, it can hardly be deemed a "sham".
This seems to be the movement du jour, "slamming" college and/or higher education. There's been a push in the Connecticut schools to provide an "alternative track" for students, which is a noble effort AFTER the decision to go or not go to college is reached, but I think is a self-fulfilling prophecy in terms of moving to the mediocre and appealing to the least common denominator.
We have become a society fixated on "free" and it's going to ultimately be a contributor to our downfall. While we hear of the extreme cases - people with $500,000 of debt and a useless degree - that's not a fault of the higher education system. THAT'S A BAD PERSONAL DECISION. Full stop. Over a lifetime, college graduates are expected to earn over $1M more than those that don't have a college degree; there are always exceptions, of course, but it's a simple math problem to determine whether a college degree is a viable option or not.
Sorry to be pedantic, but I also think this is another sign of American insecurity. It doesn't seem enough for people to say "not for me". We have devolved into a society that not only has to separate, but has to denigrate. "College isn't for me" has vagueness and seems to have taken on a slightly negative connotation (i.e. "I couldn't cut it") and so has to be offset with denigrating and castigating college as some sort of "sham" or bogeyman that has to be attacked in order to self-affirm: "Not only isn't it for me, but whether I could cut it or not is immaterial because it's BILLSHOT!" (This is reminiscent of the Taylor Swift thread; there are more posts that say "her new album blows and she sucks, WTF?" than the simple, and far more accurate, "hey, I listened to it, and it's not for me." We seem to have adopted this incessant need to assimilate our opinion into the fabric - and fact - of the society around us.
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I was just told they started setting up tents at the university I work for.
Should be fun!
Though my school is a commuter school, and I doubt the students will want to stay on campus too terribly long.
I laughed out loud at that last line. :) :) :)
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I think it's related in the sense where you see Op-Eds in the NYT with these whiney trustafarian professors who have never worked a real day in their life complaining that the protests are disrupting campus life. To me that kind of pathetic response just highlights how cartoonishly corrupt these big private schools are.
You are WAY out of your depth on this one. I don't know if you bothered - I'm going to assume you didn't - to look up Professor McWhorter, but if you did, you'd know he has a Bachelor of Arts from Rutgers (great school), a Masters of Arts degree from New York University (a great school) and a PhD degree (a doctorate) from Stanford University (one of the best schools in the country).
He has worked, trust me. Maybe not at digging ditches, or on an assembly line, but he has worked.
I do agree with Adami, though, that while poorly expressed (sorry, no offense) the underlying point is a good one about the nature and intent of the work, 4'33".
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We have become a society fixated on "free" and it's going to ultimately be a contributor to our downfall. While we hear of the extreme cases - people with $500,000 of debt and a useless degree - that's not a fault of the higher education system. THAT'S A BAD PERSONAL DECISION. Full stop. Over a lifetime, college graduates are expected to earn over $1M more than those that don't have a college degree; there are always exceptions, of course, but it's a simple math problem to determine whether a college degree is a viable option or not.
Sorry to be pedantic, but I also think this is another sign of American insecurity. It doesn't seem enough for people to say "not for me". We have devolved into a society that not only has to separate, but has to denigrate. "College isn't for me" has vagueness and seems to have taken on a slightly negative connotation (i.e. "I couldn't cut it") and so has to be offset with denigrating and castigating college as some sort of "sham" or bogeyman that has to be attacked in order to self-affirm: "Not only isn't it for me, but whether I could cut it or not is immaterial because it's BILLSHOT!" (This is reminiscent of the Taylor Swift thread; there are more posts that say "her new album blows and she sucks, WTF?" than the simple, and far more accurate, "hey, I listened to it, and it's not for me." We seem to have adopted this incessant need to assimilate our opinion into the fabric - and fact - of the society around us.
We might be steering into P/R territory here, but here is another point of view.
As a society, we have been putting more and more pressure into going to college. Heck, most jobs now require at least an associate degree. The issue that we are now seeing is that a college degree have lost value. What was once looked at as an huge achievement, is now looked at as just another requirement for a job. Also, the culture in the US surrounding colleges is all messed up. When you are applying to college, you don't get the "if this is not for you" sentiment. You get the "you have to have the college experience, so you must go to this state school, take out loans to make sure that you dorm, and deal with the consequences later". So when you combine societal pressure to go to college and the culture surrounding colleges, you get what we have today.
I was fortunate enough to know better. I applied to University at Buffalo, got accepted and I couldn't be happier (I didn't even have a backup school because I had my mind set in going there). But the moment I saw the "financial aid" package, and the loans I would need to take out, I backed out. I ended up going to a local college (same one Adami works in, I think) and graduated debt free. Today is literally my last day grad school, and I'm graduating debt free. Not everyone has that privilege and I understand that, though.
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Exactly. Why are we disrupting everyone else's life because you have nothing better to do than protest something half a world away at some random college campus? Go over and fucking fight if you feel so strongly about it. Just get the fuck out of my face with your self righteousness.
Spend much time at Yale, do you?
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You are WAY out of your depth on this one. I don't know if you bothered - I'm going to assume you didn't - to look up Professor McWhorter, but if you did, you'd know he has a Bachelor of Arts from Rutgers (great school), a Masters of Arts degree from New York University (a great school) and a PhD degree (a doctorate) from Stanford University (one of the best schools in the country).
He has worked, trust me. Maybe not at digging ditches, or on an assembly line, but he has worked.
I do agree with Adami, though, that while poorly expressed (sorry, no offense) the underlying point is a good one about the nature and intent of the work, 4'33".
I figured as much. Thanks for saving me the time of checking myself. :lol
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Spend much time at Yale, do you?
Never been.
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We might be steering into P/R territory here, but here is another point of view.
As a society, we have been putting more and more pressure into going to college. Heck, most jobs now require at least an associate degree. The issue that we are now seeing is that a college degree have lost value. What was once looked at as an huge achievement, is now looked at as just another requirement for a job. Also, the culture in the US surrounding colleges is all messed up. When you are applying to college, you don't get the "if this is not for you" sentiment. You get the "you have to have the college experience, so you must go to this state school, take out loans to make sure that you dorm, and deal with the consequences later". So when you combine societal pressure to go to college and the culture surrounding colleges, you get what we have today.
I was fortunate enough to know better. I applied to University at Buffalo, got accepted and I couldn't be happier (I didn't even have a backup school because I had my mind set in going there). But the moment I saw the "financial aid" package, and the loans I would need to take out, I backed out. I ended up going to a local college (same one Adami works in, I think) and graduated debt free. Today is literally my last day grad school, and I'm graduating debt free. Not everyone has that privilege and I understand that, though.
I'm not sure we're really arguing here. I see the pressure; my daughter graduated from a pretty prestigious high school and applied to schools; she got a FULL RIDE to my alma mater - a public ivy, so a good friggin' school - and was told "well, if you want to settle for the local state school..." But that's not necessarily proof of any of the assertions by others here. It's not a slam dunk but that doesn't mean that it's a "sham". You just (seemingly) made the right choice for you.
(And congratulations!!!!)
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We might be steering into P/R territory here, but here is another point of view.
As a society, we have been putting more and more pressure into going to college. Heck, most jobs now require at least an associate degree. The issue that we are now seeing is that a college degree have lost value. What was once looked at as an huge achievement, is now looked at as just another requirement for a job. Also, the culture in the US surrounding colleges is all messed up. When you are applying to college, you don't get the "if this is not for you" sentiment. You get the "you have to have the college experience, so you must go to this state school, take out loans to make sure that you dorm, and deal with the consequences later". So when you combine societal pressure to go to college and the culture surrounding colleges, you get what we have today.
I was fortunate enough to know better. I applied to University at Buffalo, got accepted and I couldn't be happier (I didn't even have a backup school because I had my mind set in going there). But the moment I saw the "financial aid" package, and the loans I would need to take out, I backed out. I ended up going to a local college (same one Adami works in, I think) and graduated debt free. Today is literally my last day grad school, and I'm graduating debt free. Not everyone has that privilege and I understand that, though.
COngrats on being debt free, that's like unheard of from people coming out of not jsut undergrad, but grad school too.
On the bolded, I think things are starting to swing back a bit and I've seen more jobs not require a degree. Like some jobs really don't require higher education so I think some companies are starting to recognize they can find good talent without a degree. I don't think it's enough to change things, but maybe things are moving away from college being a requirement.
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I'm not sure we're really arguing here. I see the pressure; my daughter graduated from a pretty prestigious high school and applied to schools; she got a FULL RIDE to my alma mater - a public ivy, so a good friggin' school - and was told "well, if you want to settle for the local state school..." But that's not necessarily proof of any of the assertions by others here. It's not a slam dunk but that doesn't mean that it's a "sham". You just (seemingly) made the right choice for you.
(And congratulations!!!!)
Thanks!
And I guess it didn't come across since I was typing that quickly. But I agree with what you were saying that higher ed is not a sham. I was just trying to say that simply saying "College is not for me" seems to be a more risky option than it was say 20-30 years ago.
COngrats on being debt free, that's like unheard of from people coming out of not jsut undergrad, but grad school too.
Thanks! It was a huge sacrifice, financially, but it was something I wanted to do.
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The song invites you to sit in silence and listen and absorb your surroundings. Except when it's about a protest I disagree with, then it's just "distracting noise"
The point is this guy is missing the entire point of Cage's piece if he thinks there are "noises" that this piece shouldn't be listened to with. Someone mentioned a marching band as background, and I don't see how that'd be any different. The point of the piece is to listen to what is "here and now" and if it's a marching band, or loud protests, what is the difference? The point is to STFU and listen. And publicizing that there are exceptions to that are the most obvious way to signal you have no idea why the Cage piece is important. Hard for me to comprehend how someone that closed minded and, frankly, dumb, got a job teaching at a university that is supposed to be as prestigious as Columbia
The political nature of these "noises" is obviously the thing the guy takes issue with and it's incredibly dubious and obviously a bad faith argument for him to try and make it about distracting noise. I highly doubt John Cage only intended his piece to be listened to under conditions only a milquetoast liberal would be comfortable with. It's art, get offended and think a bit!
Disagree.
The point of 4'33'' is to get the audience to sit and listen to the ambient noise IN THE ROOM. The people, the shifting in seats, sneezes, etc. It's meant to be performed in a concert hall, like any other recital. I don't think overly loud nonsense from outside the building is the point. It's to connect with all of the other people in the room through shared silence and ambient noise. Shenanigans occurring outside the building are not ambient noise. They are a distraction from the ambient noise in the room. So the professor is exactly right, IMO.
So, what did you mean by saying he had never worked a day in his life?
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COngrats on being debt free, that's like unheard of from people coming out of not jsut undergrad, but grad school too.
On the bolded, I think things are starting to swing back a bit and I've seen more jobs not require a degree. Like some jobs really don't require higher education so I think some companies are starting to recognize they can find good talent without a degree. I don't think it's enough to change things, but maybe things are moving away from college being a requirement.
I work for a large bank and most positions I've hired for (starting at pretty much six figures) does not have a degree requirement. A lot of jobs posted list a degree as a desired qualification and not mandatory.
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Pretty much all of the positions at my company have experience in lieu of a college degree as an option, but its typically 2 years of work versus 1 year of college education. The only exception I can think of are engineer positions that require an engineering degree
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Most PhDs, especially is the US, are pretty damn gruelling. Long hours for not much pay. The idea that academia is cushy is a falsehood.