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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: KevShmev on May 23, 2019, 04:21:39 PM
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Anyone else watching this?
I plowed through Season 1 this week already, which was easy since it was only 8 30-minute episodes. Very entertaining, and has plenty of both drama and comedy. I can't help but think that Bill Hader is totally channeling Michael C. Hall (think Dexter) with his acting and mannerisms, and even his love interest (who is super cute) almost had the same smile as Dexter's girlfriend/wife Rita. :lol Anyway, good show that I would recommend.
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I like the hitman aspects of it but I get annoyed at Barry when he’s too meek or hesitant to go off on someone. Plus the acting class stuff really drags and I hate the Sally character. NoHo Hank is hilarious and makes the show imo.
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I LOVE this show. The 2nd season finale was on the same day as the GOT finale. The 2nd season is even more of a trip and is probably one of the best seasons of any show I've watched. The comedy in it is pure genius.
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I am going to work on Season 2 this weekend, but the funny stuff in Season 1 was really funny. The bit where the guy told Barry not to kill his mark until DHL delivered a bullet to his associate or something was hysterical.
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NoHo Hank is my favorite side character on the show, I'm so glad he's there. His comedy chops are absolutely hilarious.
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I started this show and really enjoyed it. I watched the first 7 episodes in one shot, never got around to finale, and haven't revisited since :-\
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I watched most of season 1 roughly as it aired and was definitely enjoying it. Got busy and never finished season 1, but I'd like to go back and re-watch those episodes and then get fully caught up.
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There was one episode in season 2 with a freaky young girl that made me laugh out loud numerous times.
Great show, but I agree with DTA’s comment that the scenes with the theatre group are a bit of a drag.
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Season 2 was great as well, and that episode with the freaky young girl was so over the top and cartoonish that it somehow worked, although I like the show better when it is telling the story without the occasional violent theatrics.
That is awesome to see that Henry Winkler won the Emmy for Season 1. A long time coming and well deserved. :tup :tup
Bring on Season 3. :hat
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That episode with the girl is the funniest I have laughed on that show, it's so out of place yet fits so well. Its one of the best episodes for sure. Probably my favorite.
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The bit where Hank got annoyed at the accordionist was great. And then later when Hank was cuffed and being taken away on the bus, the accordionist started playing again, and Hank looked back and muttered, "oh, for fuck's sake, this fucking guy. Can someone please shut him up?" :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Note to self: do not eat food when watching a scene with Hank, because laughing hard is inevitable.
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Hank is my favorite character on that show, just thinking of his expressions makes me laugh.
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Haha, I know what you mean.
He is one of those characters that for whom they don't even have to write funny lines; he can make any line funny with his delivery and facial expressions. Similar to when Frasier was on Cheers and they intentionally wrote him the unfunniest lines that they knew he would make funny with his delivery.
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My boss recommended it last year, I watched the first episode and was very meh about it. Didn't come back until I was bored in my hotel room in Atlanta and wanted to stream something so I figured I'd check it out again, ended up watching the whole season 1 over 3 days and really enjoyed it. I didn't love it, but thought it was a really well rounded show. Had enough comedy to be funny, enough drama to be serious, and tight story that all made sense in the end as well. I've never been a big Bill Hader fan either, I don't love him here but he does this character well enough that he doesn't bother me. I plan on watching season 2 but haven't yet, honestly was just thinking I'd watch it the next time I have some downtime in a hotel like before.
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Watched both seasons in like 5 or 6 days. What a cool show....it's funny yet serious.....the characters are great....it's really well done. Can't wait til S3.
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Finally watched season 2 while on my last business trip and must say I really enjoyed it. Maybe more than season 1.
For one, NoHo Hank is one of my favorite characters in any recent TV show that I can recall. He's hilarious and so vibrant. My biggest complaint with the show is how he isn't featured more. Every scene is gold with him. Also, in the behind the scenes they mentioned how he adlibbed the lines during the scene where his guy got shot on the roof when they tried to kill Barry. That scene was so good and knowing it was adlbbed on his end makes it even better. They had to dub the audio as they were all laughing in real time.
The last episode however was a real trip, I'm not sure where this is going. I don't know why I just assumed this was the last season and expected closure, but where this left off leaves me hoping for another awesome season although I have no idea what's to happen next.
As for the episode with the ninja girl... WOW. I was in denver and under the influence of some legal substances there and that episode was a real oddball. I was laying in my hotel bed wondering wtf am I watching. How is this fight between Barry and the guy still happening? And this girl really is looking like a gargoyle on the roof!? :rollin
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It's back!!!
Hader is great as always, and NoHo Hank is just money every time he is on screen.
My only beef is how short these seasons are. Only eight episodes, all around the 30-minute mark? Yeesh, that is not much.
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Show didn't skip a beat! It also bums me out that each episode is just 30 mins, feels so short.
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Ooh, I had no idea there was a new season. Looking forward to watching it.
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I enjoyed the first 2 seasons, the gf had not seen it though so we agreed to watch the first two season and then the 3rd. Probably be a bit till I come back here though to not spoil myself as we need to finish another show first.
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Solid first episode.....and I agree these episodes are way too short.
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I absolutely adore Henry Winkler and so don't know why it took me so long, but I just started Season 1 last night and I got 4 episodes in. It feels more like a grower than a shower and after reading the comments here, I'm going to keep going.
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This 2nd episode of season 3 was one amazing episode. It had so many emotional beats and nailed them all. Stellar direction, writing, acting, all round fantastic arc of several characters, to hit those high notes at just the 2nd episode in, I'm extremely surprised how well done it was.
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The most recent episode (Ep.6) was so good.
I mean, eve just that chase scene :biggrin: I know nothing about what makes good directing/filming etc., but that whole thing seemed genius to me. This show has a way to play with expectations (even in the way certain scenes are shot) that just works so well.
Not quite sure how they are going to wrap this season up with only two episodes left, but I can't wait to find out...
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I think for season 3 so far, every single episode has been a masterclass of directing, acting, cinematography, writing, you name it. It's just unreal so far and am very curious how the last two episodes end.
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I think for season 3 so far, every single episode has been a masterclass of directing, acting, cinematography, writing, you name it. It's just unreal so far and am very curious how the last two episodes end.
Agreed. This season has been great. I too am wondering how they're going to wrap the season up.
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That highway chase scene on motorcycles in the most recent episode was so ridiculous. And awesome. So over the top. :lol :lol
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That highway chase scene on motorcycles in the most recent episode was so ridiculous. And awesome. So over the top. :lol :lol
That chase was so well done, it had action, and comedy, was really well shot, and edited, and in the end wound up at a great spot. That's been the best part of this season, each episode has these moments where you have no idea what to expect in a given scene.
Episode 7 was no different, it was so breathtaking and extremely well done. Some amazing scenes and acting, each episode seems to be upping the previous one in all departments. I really can't wait for the finale and am already going to hate the long wait for the next season.
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You and me both.
That episode last night was something else. I can't wait to see how this season ends next week, but the wait for Season 4 will be excruciating.
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Finally all caught up. My rewatch of the first two seasons really made me appreciate the show more. Just some of the subtle jokes are so good and clever. This season so far has also been really good, like the show didn't skip a beat at all after the years. I really have grown a lot of respect for Hader for this show. It does suck that it's so short though, but better to be short and on point than drawn out and losing the plot
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Sally's story arc this season has been wonderfully crafted and Sarah Goldberg's portrayal of Sally and the range of emotion she's went through has been incredible to watch.
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Finally all caught up. My rewatch of the first two seasons really made me appreciate the show more. Just some of the subtle jokes are so good and clever. This season so far has also been really good, like the show didn't skip a beat at all after the years. I really have grown a lot of respect for Hader for this show. It does suck that it's so short though, but better to be short and on point than drawn out and losing the plot
Agreed. Nearly every episode feels impactful.
Sally's story arc this season has been wonderfully crafted and Sarah Goldberg's portrayal of Sally and the range of emotion she's went through has been incredible to watch.
For sure! It seems like the most chatter is about Hader, Henry Winkler and Anthony Carrigan, all of whom have been fantastic, but Sarah Goldberg has been tremendous as well, and I think Stephen Root is just a marvel to watch on screen. I just love watching that guy act in anything.
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I find Sally's character to be very unlikeable and always has been. But I think that goes to her credit as an actress. She has been incredible. I also like the contrast of her trying so hard and wanting so bad to be an actress where Barry does so little and gets so rewarded.
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I find Sally's character to be very unlikeable and always has been. But I think that goes to her credit as an actress. She has been incredible. I also like the contrast of her trying so hard and wanting so bad to be an actress where Barry does so little and gets so rewarded.
I think that's the perfect dichotomy of characters as you mention. Not just from the 'acting' aspect of the show where she tries hard and Barry doesn't.....but as people as well. For all intents and purposes Barry is a 'good' guy that has chosen or been wrapped up in a really bad line of work. Whereas Sally is not a good person at all but tries to throw a persona out there of being a 'good' person
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Damn, what a fantastic ending to the season. I cannot wait to see where they go next with this, as there are so many possibilities. This is moving up my list of favorite shows ever.
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That was without a doubt one of the greatest season finales of any show. comedy, drama, whatever.. Honestly even if they ended the series that way I would have zero complaints. What a packed episode with so much going on. Holy shit.
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What a great finale, they didn't waste a second of that runtime.
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Honestly even if they ended the series that way I would have zero complaints.
I think it kind of 'has' to end there....don't you? There's not a storyline or character that didn't receive some sort of resolution.....and the way the season ended for the character Barry seemed pretty fitting.
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Honestly even if they ended the series that way I would have zero complaints.
I think it kind of 'has' to end there....don't you? There's not a storyline or character that didn't receive some sort of resolution.....and the way the season ended for the character Barry seemed pretty fitting.
Well strike that.....just read that they're currently writing Season 4.
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Right and for the 4th season Bill Hader is directing all the episodes.
Who knows how long it will take to air
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Hader said they start filming Season 4 in two months, so my guess would be the next season will be out next spring.
SPOILERS BELOW
Now that Barry has been caught, I can't wait to see where they go with it. While I doubt they can tie him to Janice's murder*, you have a dozen cops witness his attempted murder of her father, so that alone is a charge that should stick. Barry often seems to magically get out of sticky situations thanks to sheer luck more often than not, but it will be interesting to see how they tackle this.
*In regards to this, I don't think he ever actually admitted it verbally to Gene, did he? When Gene asked him if she suffered, he lowered his head and shook his head to indicate she did not, but that is not an admission that would hold up in court. And if they had evidence to arrest him for that, there would have been no need for the sting where he was seconds away from actually killing Mr. Moss.
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Yeah, that was a really epic season finale and if the show had ended there, I would give it a standing ovation and be happy. I have no idea how it will go from here, but I have faith it will be a good next season because of how consistent the show has been already.
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I am actually glad they didn't save the "Barry finally got caught" moment for the end of the series. Now that he has been caught, let's see where it goes from here.
Jumping back a week, having watched the last few episodes a second time, the convo that ended the 7th episode this season between Albert and Fuches was so great. Stephen Root is such a phenomenal character actor. Never the lead guy, but you know he is going to bring it to the highest level no matter what the role.
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I had a long draught in TV-series. Just to many of them and most seems to do the same thing. Somehow I ended up giving Barry a chance and can't remember being this invested since early GOT. Such a well written, fun, dramatic and clever series. The acting is phenomenal! Sally is one of the most memorable acting performances I've seen and Noho Hank maybe the most enjoyable?
Can't wait for next season 🙂
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I had a long draught in TV-series. Just to many of them and most seems to do the same thing. Somehow I ended up giving Barry a chance and can't remember being this invested since early GOT. Such a well written, fun, dramatic and clever series. The acting is phenomenal! Sally is one of the most memorable acting performances I've seen and Noho Hank maybe the most enjoyable?
Can't wait for next season 🙂
:tup :tup
Amazing how. I love this new trend of comedies that bring as much drama and storytelling as they do comedy.
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Season 4 started today and first two episodes were legit amazing. This show does comedy so well in serious situations. Six episodes and the show is done. Ends the same day as Succession.
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Great stuff. This show is so good. I love how every episode is all meat, no fat.
What's interesting is that Sally had become really dislikable last season, but they did a great job last night of making it go the other way with her. She is becoming the most sympathetic character.
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Great stuff. This show is so good. I love how every episode is all meat, no fat.
What's interesting is that Sally had become really dislikable last season, but they did a great job last night of making it go the other way with her. She is becoming the most sympathetic character.
I was kind of hoping they'd just write her off with the way she left to go home last season. I really didn't think that would happen, but like you said, she was so unlikeable that I would have been very happy to not have her back.
Solid first two episodes though.
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Love the show.....great first two episodes. As Kev mentioned.....they do a great job of making use of every scene/minute, no 'fat' whatsoever.
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I get the hate the character Sally gets, but imo she's very well acted for a neurotic emotionally needy unstable anxiety ridden struggling actress. The actress truly does her justice and I love her portrayal, the last episode we see where a lot of those traits come from even though it's been shown how much she's been emotionally and physically abused. Her funny moments stand out much more due to her background. She's one of my favorite characters on the show after Noho Hank.
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I remember Hader in an interview during S3 being puzzled as to why so many fans disliked Sally, so I am guessing he made a conscious effort to make her a sympathetic character, like giving her an uncaring and dreadful mother, but it feels like a natural part of the story rather than contrived, so I am down with it.
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I mean she was already shown to have an abusive ex and they then show Barry verbally abuse her and how she cowered into a shell thinking it was her fault. She definitely had a troubled past but you're right introducing the parents gives a better picture.
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We need more footage of Hank and Cristobal at Dave and Busters. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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That scene was hilarious and I'm hoping for more of Hank's ridiculous outfits :lol
(https://imgur.com/DYImv6N.jpg)
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Haha, he is so money.
"I understand Cristobal and I are unicorn situation." :rollin :rollin :rollin
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I think I read that when Bill Hader had to shoot some scenes with him, he could barely keep it together as Hank would sometimes improvise and Bill would be on the floor laughing uncontrollably.
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It probably doesn't help that Hader is famous for breaking character on a whim, but in the case of Anthony Carrigan, who plays Hank, I totally get it. Hank's frequent misuse of definite and indefinite articles always cracks me up.
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I get the hate the character Sally gets, but imo she's very well acted for a neurotic emotionally needy unstable anxiety ridden struggling actress. The actress truly does her justice and I love her portrayal, the last episode we see where a lot of those traits come from even though it's been shown how much she's been emotionally and physically abused. Her funny moments stand out much more due to her background. She's one of my favorite characters on the show after Noho Hank.
Oh for sure. She does it so well that it makes me hate her.
I remember Hader in an interview during S3 being puzzled as to why so many fans disliked Sally, so I am guessing he made a conscious effort to make her a sympathetic character, like giving her an uncaring and dreadful mother, but it feels like a natural part of the story rather than contrived, so I am down with it.
Her history we've known and now see with her parents does make a lot of sense for how she is.
That scene was hilarious and I'm hoping for more of Hank's ridiculous outfits :lol
(https://imgur.com/DYImv6N.jpg)
Immediately after this, I looked over to my gf and said "I'd be so down for a Noho Hank and Cristobal spin off series" :lol
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Immediately after this, I looked over to my gf and said "I'd be so down for a Noho Hank and Cristobal spin off series" :lol
Absolutely, yes! :lol
In the first two episodes, they were basically the only comic relief (well, a bit from the FBI agents too :))
This show is so good...
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So good again last night. That phone call between Hank and Barry was awesome. Hader is just crushing it right now.
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Hader is just crushing it right now.
Yeah, he was great in the new episode.
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Came in to say the same thing about that phone call scene, straight fire from both actors. I was also really amused by the conversation at the beginning of the episode about the podcast the two hitmen Hank was hiring had :lol
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A couple more scenes from yesterday's episode that I though were SO "signature" Barry:
- Cousienau in the car with his agent, asking (hypothetically :biggrin:) if someone were to speak to the press about the story...then the scene cuts out to outside the car, which then proceeds to slowly drift and crash.
- The failed hit on Barry in the prison - even funnier with the whole premise of the podcast on malfunctioning gadgets
This show is nuts :lol
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I got a kick out of the DA basically telling Gene, "yeah, if Barry gets out, we can't do much to protect ya, so good luck." :rollin :rollin
Also, the shot of Tom throwing the computer into the pool in the background when Gene was talking to the wife made me laugh pretty hard.
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Just a brilliant show and the third episode was so good. Loved it. Pretty much every scene was spot on.
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"Barry is military."
"Oh. Do you own a gun?"
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I got a kick out of the DA basically telling Gene, "yeah, if Barry gets out, we can't do much to protect ya, so good luck." :rollin :rollin
Also, the shot of Tom throwing the computer into the pool in the background when Gene was talking to the wife made me laugh pretty hard.
Same here :lol They do this kind of scene SO well on the show
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I got a kick out of the DA basically telling Gene, "yeah, if Barry gets out, we can't do much to protect ya, so good luck." :rollin :rollin
Also, the shot of Tom throwing the computer into the pool in the background when Gene was talking to the wife made me laugh pretty hard.
Same here :lol They do this kind of scene SO well on the show
They really do.
I also love the directing of Gene and Tom searching the house where they didn't show them, but you could hear them in the background, like two idiots trying to find something, with Gene eventually entering the shot to talk to the wife who was suddenly there.
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Another great episode.
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Some great moments but overall I didn't enjoy this episode as much as last week.
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Yep, generally agree...also, what happened with Gene was especially...dark...even for this show? I guess we'll find out.
Also, do you guys think the end of the episode was a genuine flash-forward, or some sort of a "dream" sequence?
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Also, do you guys think the end of the episode was a genuine flash-forward, or some sort of a "dream" sequence?
I was wondering that as well. I can see it being totally legit…..although….the orientation/“how” that house looked was extremely odd. I get that if it were a legit fast forward that they’d have lived a secretive life but it just looked weird.
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I believe it's a genuine flash-forward, as I was reading an interview with Bill Hader talking about how he wanted to end the show with an exploration of what it would be like if some of these characters finally got what they think they really wanted, in Barry's case that being a life with Sally -- though I assume if the last few episodes do indeed go that route, we're gonna see how even their "ideal" outcomes are supremely fucked up.
Such a great show!
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I believe it's a genuine flash-forward, as I was reading an interview with Bill Hader talking about how he wanted to end the show with an exploration of what it would be like if some of these characters finally got what they think they really wanted, in Barry's case that being a life with Sally -- though I assume if the last few episodes do indeed go that route, we're gonna see how even their "ideal" outcomes are supremely fucked up.
Such a great show!
Sally looked extremely disappointed and worn down so.....could be legit. She doesn't seem like a character that could ever really attain any type of happiness anyway.
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Another home run of an episode. This show never fails to deliver.
I laughed out loud hard at the start when the cop cars came to a screeching halt in front of Gene's house and one ran into the other, resulting in a "Jesus fucking Christ, you guys" from one of the cops. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Well, last night's episode was kinda weird, even for this show's standards ;)
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Yeah, I agree. It was very weird. A couple of bits I liked but overall this episode was a big miss for me. I am all for a show going in an unexpected direction but this just felt really off to me and not true to the characters.
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Strange episode, yes, but I suspect it will work a lot better once we see how it all plays out.
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Strange episode, yes, but I suspect it will work a lot better once we see how it all plays out.
Yeah…..I’m sure it’ll tie in nicely.
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Caught up on the latest two episodes, the previous episode was fantastic. Felt like so much happened and poor Noho Hank.
For the recent episode, I kept thinking for sure that was a dream, it just seemed so off, but I guess it really was the future. Honestly felt extremely bored the entire episode with it. I'm sure I'm missing the small things that would make it interesting, but I just felt like this dream/fast forward was so odd and uninteresting besides a few comedic moments. After an awesome first 4 episodes to the final season, I'm worried this ending is going to suck now. Hope not.
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I'm a sucker for strange off-beat episodes and that last one didn't disappoint. Very interesting to see the time skip ahead and the whole episode had a Better Call Saul vibe with events set in the future. Looking forward to tonight's episode as well.
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Last night's episode was a little more in line with what you'd expect from the show, but maybe again falling a bit short of its usual brilliance. I feel, at the end of the day, this forward jump is not offering a particularly clever development of the story...it's just...well...8 years have passed and they've been in hiding? And now a movie is threatening that?
I did find Barry's scanning for a podcast that would justify what he wanted to do pretty funny, though ;D
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That was Bill Burr on the last podcast playing the pastor who seemed to convince Barry that what he was doing was morally correct. I recognized his voice instantly.
Also, did anyone notice that Barry was clean shaven at the end when face to face with Mr. Moss? He had a lot of facial hair before being captured, so I suspect the time line is fuzzy with that sequence at the end, unless Moss decided to shave Barry when he was out. :lol :lol
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Also, did anyone notice that Barry was clean shaven at the end when face to face with Mr. Moss? He had a lot of facial hair before being captured, so I suspect the time line is fuzzy with that sequence at the end, unless Moss decided to shave Barry when he was out. :lol :lol
Yes! My wife and I both noticed it as the scene opened…I wouldn’t put it past Moss to have done that :lol
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I thought it was interesting as well that Sally's hallucination featured the voice of that guy at the diner from last week (the one she nearly strangled as they were kissing) and had the dialogue of the motorcycle guy she beat to death at the end of Season 3.
As I do not think Barry himself survives the series, watch it be Sally who ends up killing him.
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That was Bill Burr on the last podcast playing the pastor who seemed to convince Barry that what he was doing was morally correct. I recognized his voice instantly.
Also, did anyone notice that Barry was clean shaven at the end when face to face with Mr. Moss? He had a lot of facial hair before being captured, so I suspect the time line is fuzzy with that sequence at the end, unless Moss decided to shave Barry when he was out. :lol :lol
Bill Burr's cameo was great, his voice is so recognizable and his podcast was hilarious. Hader needing validation from whichever pastor allowed him to kill was great lol.
I didn't notice the change in Hader's appearance in the end, I went back and watched and it is indeed two different appearances, possibly different timelines?
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Last night's episode was a little more in line with what you'd expect from the show, but maybe again falling a bit short of its usual brilliance. I feel, at the end of the day, this forward jump is not offering a particularly clever development of the story...it's just...well...8 years have passed and they've been in hiding? And now a movie is threatening that?
I did find Barry's scanning for a podcast that would justify what he wanted to do pretty funny, though ;D
I mostly agree that this episode went right back into the Barry show we know. I guess the 8 year gap is what they felt appropriate to finish the story. I don't love it (you'd know it if you read how I felt after the previous episode) but I do think this episode helped rectify what I thought could be a shit ending. I actually thought the episode was very strong considering the time jump. I think the only thing I didn't like was how predictable that ending was, but it does make sense and it's tying things in together for the final episodes.
I thought it was interesting as well that Sally's hallucination featured the voice of that guy at the diner from last week (the one she nearly strangled as they were kissing) and had the dialogue of the motorcycle guy she beat to death at the end of Season 3.
I didn't catch those but that makes a lot of sense. I still find her story the most annoying of all, but it's well written and portrayed so I just have to attribute that to incredible team running this show.
Also :lol at the podcast and the tattoos
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Really not so sure where this is all going after these last 2 episodes. It kind of feels like the show is just rushing to the end and the time jump still feels really jarring to me, especially in relation to Barry himself. Will reserve full judgement until the series is complete.
I kind of find it hard to believe that 8 years later, Mr. Moss is just waiting around for Barry to show up but I guess that is all he has in his life now.
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Really not so sure where this is all going after these last 2 episodes. It kind of feels like the show is just rushing to the end and the time jump still feels really jarring to me, especially in relation to Barry himself. Will reserve full judgement until the series is complete.
I kind of find it hard to believe that 8 years later, Mr. Moss is just waiting around for Barry to show up but I guess that is all he has in his life now.
The argument could be made that Moss started watching Gene again once he heard he was back in town, but it could also be chalked up as being so absurd that it actually works, a plot device this show has down to science.
Plus, we still don't know if it was Moss who grabbed Barry at the end (the ending shot of Moss and Barry face to face could have been from eight years earlier).
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Really not so sure where this is all going after these last 2 episodes. It kind of feels like the show is just rushing to the end and the time jump still feels really jarring to me, especially in relation to Barry himself. Will reserve full judgement until the series is complete.
I kind of find it hard to believe that 8 years later, Mr. Moss is just waiting around for Barry to show up but I guess that is all he has in his life now.
The argument could be made that Moss started watching Gene again once he heard he was back in town, but it could also be chalked up as being so absurd that it actually works, a plot device this show has down to science.
Plus, we still don't know if it was Moss who grabbed Barry at the end (the ending shot of Moss and Barry face to face could have been from eight years earlier).
OK, yeah I guess that is right. I probably didn't think of that, is probably best to just wait and see how it all plays out.
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Mr. Moss waiting around makes a ton of sense to me considering he showed how hardcore he was about it previously although it's also true that he could have just showed back up with Cousinou returned which also makes a lot of sense.
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I will have to re-watch last night's episode again. Very interesting. That will suck hard if Gene ends up going down for something he didn't do, and the rocket scene with Hank and his cohort was classic Barry. :lol :lol
And I cannot decide if Sarah Goldberg is more attractive as a blonde or with the dark hair (I think she is extremely attractive in general, as I am a sucker for a gorgeous smile).
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So the ending of last episode with Barry's inconsistent beard and clothes was a non-issue and something just lost in the continuity I suppose. I like the setup for the finale, should be good. Three shows having series finale next week (Barry, Succession & The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel), four if you count the mini-series Love & Death.
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So the ending of last episode with Barry's inconsistent beard and clothes was a non-issue and something just lost in the continuity I suppose.
True. That surprised me a little, but I won't dwell on it.
I am really gonna miss this show when it ends. I just love everything about it.
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Three shows having series finale next week (Barry, Succession & The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel), four if you count the mini-series Love & Death.
With the HBO shows coming to an end on Sunday, it's no surprise HBO is making sure people change to the new app before Sunday :lol
Thought the episode was good and how it's all turning around to make it look like Cousinuea is kind of funny. Of course I don't want him to pay the price for Barry's killings but it is great how it has been spun around to look like that including the Raven being a thing now :lol
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Latest episode of Barry was great and a return to form. Looking forward to the finale.
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With the HBO shows coming to an end on Sunday, it's no surprise HBO is making sure people change to the new app before Sunday :lol
This rebranding from HBO to HBO Max to Max is weird. Lot of content change I'm assuming too.
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Have watched all of this over the last month or so and it looks like tomorrow will be the last episode!
Have stayed away from this thread in fear of spoilerd but what a great show!
Again, for fear of spoilers, I've not googled it either. I wonder what the inspiration behind it is. I mainly feel it must be a love letter to acting. I love the crazy humour of it. Hank and Fuches have been consistently hilarious but the main affection in the show seems to be with Gene and Sally, for all their flaws.
Another thing that really stuck out as beautifully done was Hank and Cristobal. Very sweet.
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Wow indeed. Gotta digest this a bit….
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Wow.
Gene with the most horrible ending possible.
I need a re-watch and time to comprehend what I just saw.
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Wow.
Gene with the most horrible ending possible.
I need a re-watch and time to comprehend what I just saw.
Yeah. Gotta rewatch this episode for sure. And, rethink everything Gene’s character did and went through to contemplate if his arc was ‘deserved’
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Wow is right! lol Excellent wrapup to the show. Poor Gene got fucked every which way.
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Anyone else catch the Breaking Bad moment with Fuches and Barry? Fuches' nod to Barry like, "we're good now," was totally reminiscent of the one Walt gave to Jesse at the end of the last BB right before Jesse got in the El Camino and raced out of the compound.
Gene's desperation to be a star bit him in the butt. From his one-man show to falling for the fake agent's story and calling Barry a sympathetic character, he unwittingly sealed his own fate.
I also liked that Barry didn't get an epic death scene. It was just boom you're dead. That is all a cold-blooded killer like him deserved.
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Overall a good finale. Stephen Root and Anthony Carrigan were masterful in that scene at the Nohobal offices. The little post script after Barry got shot was kind of an odd way to end the whole series though.
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Yea. Odd ending. Not sure how I feel about it after Barry died.
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I think it was meant to show how Hollywood can dumb down a story with cliches. When you think of how well Barry was shot and how good the storytelling was, the shots of the Mask Collector film were very cheesy and not well done, as was the dialogue, which is a total rip on Hollywood, and Hader had already shown that he was fine with taking shots at Hollywood, like with the algorithm/taste clutters talk when Sally's Joplin show was cancelled. And I thought the ending sequence where we saw the fates of both Gene and Barry (in death) followed by the credits rolling with the military music was surreal. I loved that.
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I think it was meant to show how Hollywood can dumb down a story with cliches. When you think of how well Barry was shot and how good the storytelling was, the shots of the Mask Collector film were very cheesy and not well done, as was the dialogue, which is a total rip on Hollywood, and Hader had already shown that he was fine with taking shots at Hollywood, like with the algorithm/taste clutters talk when Sally's Joplin show was cancelled. And I thought the ending sequence where we saw the fates of both Gene and Barry (in death) followed by the credits rolling with the military music was surreal. I loved that.
Yeah.....I can see that being the case for sure.
Anyone else catch the Breaking Bad moment with Fuches and Barry? Fuches' nod to Barry like, "we're good now," was totally reminiscent of the one Walt gave to Jesse at the end of the last BB right before Jesse got in the El Camino and raced out of the compound.
Noticed that as well. I didn't really correlate it to BB per say....but that....it was a 'nice' moment for those two after all that had happened between their characters. Which, brings up the fact that Fuches received a 'happy' ending when it comes to his character.
I also liked that Barry didn't get an epic death scene. It was just boom you're dead. That is all a cold-blooded killer like him deserved.
that was definitely a surprised. I (like many I'm sure) thought that he'd undoubtedly go down in a hail of bullets....or....was totally conditioned at that point that he'd surrender then live his life out in prison and that the post script scene(s) would've been his kid and maybe Sally visiting him there and what not.
Gene's desperation to be a star bit him in the butt. From his one-man show to falling for the fake agent's story and calling Barry a sympathetic character, he unwittingly sealed his own fate.
Not to mention had he just not killed Barry.....he'd have been vindicated with Barry surrendering and coming clean about it all. Gene was a pompous ass and jerk most of the series, but still trying to figure out 'why' they decided to have him get the worst outcome of the surviving characters. (Side Note: I call BS on the head shot from 20ft away with a short barrel revolver from Gene. Hitting center mass on the first shot is believable, hitting him dead center head shot is a helluva shot)
That scene at the end with Sally's character was on point as well. She cared only about the play and HER. She asks John how it was and he said "great like always".....then, he says "I love you mom" and in lieu of saying something like I love you too she ignores him and just asks again about it being really good. Then the affection she shows the flowers in the passenger seat when she was looking at them. She's just as self centered as ever.
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I think it was meant to show how Hollywood can dumb down a story with cliches. When you think of how well Barry was shot and how good the storytelling was, the shots of the Mask Collector film were very cheesy and not well done, as was the dialogue, which is a total rip on Hollywood, and Hader had already shown that he was fine with taking shots at Hollywood, like with the algorithm/taste clutters talk when Sally's Joplin show was cancelled. And I thought the ending sequence where we saw the fates of both Gene and Barry (in death) followed by the credits rolling with the military music was surreal. I loved that.
Yeah, I mean I liked the clips from Mask Collector and Gary's spot on with his observation about Sally in the post script scene, but it just seemed odd to have the focal point of the last scene be older John. He was much more of a prop than a character in the part of the show after the first time leap, and now we've jumped forward a number of years again. We have know idea what he thinks or knows or feels about Barry, how he's processed the events from earlier in the finale, or anything like that, so we have no idea what seeing Mask Collector is meant to be having on him.
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Yeah, I mean I liked the clips from Mask Collector and Gary's spot on with his observation about Sally in the post script scene, but it just seemed odd to have the focal point of the last episode be older John. He was much more of a prop than a character in the part of the show after the first time leap, and now we've jumped forward a number of years again. We have know idea what he thinks or knows or feels about Barry, how he's processed the events from earlier in the finale, or anything like that, so we have no idea what seeing Mask Collector is meant to be having on him.
His character was kind of shafted and was always used as a prop.....like you mentioned. In that final scene it 'looked' like they were giving him some sort of peace or something about his Dad....that he was buying in to the movie rather than reality. After all, he knows that Barry didn't storm the compound to save them, but he still seemed to have a smile when it all ended?
That was a pretty disatisfying ending when it comes to his character.
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Good comments all around...all in all, I'd say a satisfying ending for the series as a whole, and pretty true to the overall spirit of the show.
Yes, the Mask Collector was weird, but I agree with Kev's take.
It sure was a wild ride :biggrin:
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I felt that John's thread was showing him being simultaneously shoved around and misdirected by real life and Hollywood.
Good show. Good finale. Liked it a lot.
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I feel like the moral of the story was reflected in Fuches' words to Hank: own who you are and don't try to be someone or something you are not.
And that is why Gene's fate feels maybe not deserved, but self-inflicted. He was willing to sell out the memory of his murdered girlfriend for money and a film, all because he couldn't get over never becoming a big star. He couldn't accept himself for what he always was.
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Loved the Succession finale, not sure sure about this one. Overall I felt this show crawled to the finish line. The reenactment movie was fine, but I feel this sort of thing has been done many times before in tv shows and movies. It isn't a new concept to make fun of the sensationalism of Hollywood etc..
It also seemed a bit strange to me to have it all put on Gene, so that didn't really work for me.
Overall though loved the show.
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Loved the Succession finale, not sure sure about this one. Overall I felt this show crawled to the finish line. The reenactment movie was fine, but I feel this sort of thing has been done many times before in tv shows and movies. It isn't a new concept to make fun of the sensationalism of Hollywood etc..
It also seemed a bit strange to me to have it all put on Gene, so that didn't really work for me.
Overall though loved the show.
One thing to question is, how did Barry escape responsibility for the attempted murder of Jim Moss? I mean, a dozen cops watched him walk up to Moss at the end of Season 3 and point a gun to his head with the intention to kill him, before they made their presence known and stopped him. Even if the cops deduced that Gene was the mastermind and Barry was doing it under orders from him, that still makes him guilty of attempted murder.
That is why the story at the end of the Mask Collector could very well not be truthful either, but a case of Hollywood hero-izing Barry by saying he was laid to rest with full honors, when in reality he still went to his grave with the rep as a bad guy (but maybe not as bad as it was before Gene took the fall).
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I enjoyed the ending including the scene at the end showing the hollywood depiction. It made a lot of sense to me and while Gene didn't deserve his ending, when the copy tells him his acting is too good, it to me, closes it out for him as that's all he ever wanted and even if he wasn't acting, that's exactly what he wanted all a long. No shock that Barry died, I feel like it was the only ending that made sense for him.
Other than the time jump episode that felt more like a weird dream sequence, this was a really good final season
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I enjoyed the ending including the scene at the end showing the hollywood depiction. It made a lot of sense to me and while Gene didn't deserve his ending, when the copy tells him his acting is too good, it to me, closes it out for him as that's all he ever wanted and even if he wasn't acting, that's exactly what he wanted all a long. No shock that Barry died, I feel like it was the only ending that made sense for him.
Other than the time jump episode that felt more like a weird dream sequence, this was a really good final season
Agreed. It was obvious to me from the start that Hader was a fan of Dexter, and he wasn't going to make the mistake of not killing the bad guy main character before the end.