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Title: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 21, 2019, 04:11:30 PM
Two episodes in and its pretty decent. How terrifying that you have to combat something that if you get close to it you die. The silent killer of radiation poisoning.

And then all the politicians trying to downplay it and keep it quiet. Man oh man...

Apparently from what I had read previously on the Chernobyl incident, if they didn't contain it, a meltdown could have taken out a huge chunk of Europe, so good on them. 

Anyone else watching? 
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on May 21, 2019, 04:34:54 PM
Watched the first 2, will watch episode 3 tonight.  Very well done so far!
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: gmillerdrake on May 21, 2019, 05:17:53 PM
On my watch list. Have heard great things about it.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: lonestar on May 21, 2019, 06:46:35 PM
Watched the pilot and it surely sucked me in, and I need it with GoT, Gotham, and American Gods over. Should make a welcome addition to my schedule along with Good Omens.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on May 22, 2019, 01:04:35 AM
I know I can just look it up on Wikipedia, but since we're at it... is this a fiction or a documentary?
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Zydar on May 22, 2019, 01:12:57 AM
9.6 on IMDB  :P

I've been meaning to check this one out. I need something new to watch.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 22, 2019, 03:46:29 AM
I know I can just look it up on Wikipedia, but since we're at it... is this a fiction or a documentary?

Fiction show with actual historical events and actual people dramatized, but also some made up stuff and people. Which I was pretty surprised to hear, since it builds and presents some very strong and memorable characters.

Like obviously gorbachev was real, but apparently Emily Watson's character wasn't, which I was disappointed to hear since she was pretty memorable.

So Its a hodge podge of real mixed in with made up  :P     Still really entertaining though.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on May 22, 2019, 04:02:17 AM
Yeah, thanks, that's what I wanted to know if it was still a story (with the obvious mix of historical facts being real and protagonists being invented or real life protagonists being dramatized) since documentaries are not my thing. Guess I'll add it to my watchlist!
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on May 23, 2019, 04:06:53 PM


Fiction show with actual historical events and actual people dramatized, but also some made up stuff and people. Which I was pretty surprised to hear, since it builds and presents some very strong and memorable characters.

Like obviously gorbachev was real, but apparently Emily Watson's character wasn't, which I was disappointed to hear since she was pretty memorable.

So Its a hodge podge of real mixed in with made up  :P     Still really entertaining though.
I haven't done any research into the thought process in writing the show.  So I'm not sure why they didn't go 100% factual.  Maybe incomplete information?  Had to fill in gaps and or add drama?  Not a really big fan of when they do the latter.  For example ... two of my favorite war movies, Midway (which they are remaking!!!) and Pearl Harbor.  Both of those, in particularly Pearl Harbor, they fictionalized WAY too much.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: orcus116 on May 28, 2019, 05:39:26 AM
If you check out the companion podcast they have the writer and creator is the guest and he explains in detail why they made those decisions.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: cramx3 on May 28, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Just started watching, did the first two episodes this weekend and hopefully will be caught up soon. Really intriguing show, kind of crazy the reaction and denials initially and how easily they could be cool with mass amounts of deaths.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 29, 2019, 06:01:49 AM
The latest episode was really good. For a second there I thought the little robot would work clearing the roof. The necessity to use men is haunting.

Just 90 seconds to chip away at such a gargantuan task. Its mental and to my knowledge from a doc I've seen, despite only being 90 seconds and taking all those precautions, they all died shortly there after.

And dealing with bureaucratic double think must be maddening. You are trying to find a solution, and also prevent it from happening again, yet the whole damn country's official policy is "nothing every goes wrong in our country". Damn that sucks 
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on May 30, 2019, 01:56:59 AM
Love the show!

Fun fact, the director is this guy: https://youtu.be/sGNK-cOtxSs
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Samsara on May 30, 2019, 08:37:12 AM
The latest episode was really good. For a second there I thought the little robot would work clearing the roof. The necessity to use men is haunting.

Just 90 seconds to chip away at such a gargantuan task. Its mental and to my knowledge from a doc I've seen, despite only being 90 seconds and taking all those precautions, they all died shortly there after.

And dealing with bureaucratic double think must be maddening. You are trying to find a solution, and also prevent it from happening again, yet the whole damn country's official policy is "nothing every goes wrong in our country". Damn that sucks

Incredible show. The last episode...I'm with you. The storyline with the animals though (being vague in case people didn't see it)...heartbreaking.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on May 31, 2019, 07:34:02 PM
Yeah, I had to FF through the animal scenes.  Heratbreaking, but understandable.  They wouldn't have enough vodka to get me through it.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Grappler on June 04, 2019, 06:56:25 AM
The finale was incredible - I couldn't take my attention away from the tv during the trial scenes as the testimony and scenes of what happened to cause the meltdown occurred.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 04, 2019, 07:01:48 AM
Totally agree. That was an awesome finale and a fantastic series.

It was so gripping and fascinating to hear all the many aspects of what led to the disaster.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Samsara on June 06, 2019, 09:34:14 AM
Watched the finale last night. Incredibly moving. I loved the very end, when they added the real photographs of the people and explained the statistics and such. Really brings it home. Frankly, it should win a mountain of Emmy Awards.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on June 06, 2019, 01:57:52 PM
Well done HBO.  Yeah, I also loved the whole trial seen.  Walking through the whole scenario or giving us "nuclear reactors for dummies" was great.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 06, 2019, 05:40:38 PM
Well done HBO.  Yeah, I also loved the whole trial seen.  Walking through the whole scenario or giving us "nuclear reactors for dummies" was great.

Yeah that was great. I had to rewind a little bit, but it did a decent job of explaining it while doing it justice, but not totally losing me.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: cramx3 on June 07, 2019, 09:41:41 AM
Skipping the comments as I am still behind on the last episode but just saw this

https://news.avclub.com/russia-hates-hbos-chernobyl-vows-to-make-its-own-serie-1835298424 (https://news.avclub.com/russia-hates-hbos-chernobyl-vows-to-make-its-own-serie-1835298424)

 :rollin like seriously?  Some things never change
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on June 07, 2019, 09:46:37 AM
Well, in their own version - at least the one they claimed at the beginning - the series would be just one boring episode where nothing happens and the central works fine, because they refused to admit it ever exploded  :lol :facepalm:
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: TioJorge on June 08, 2019, 02:05:46 AM
This shit is amazingly fucked up. Good lord. There's very few movies or shows that scare me anymore but this shit is utterly terrifying. Especially when you think of how many nuclear warheads and god knows what else there is NOW compared to then. Fuck. Superb show though, so so good.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Evermind on June 08, 2019, 02:55:45 AM
Skipping the comments as I am still behind on the last episode but just saw this

https://news.avclub.com/russia-hates-hbos-chernobyl-vows-to-make-its-own-serie-1835298424 (https://news.avclub.com/russia-hates-hbos-chernobyl-vows-to-make-its-own-serie-1835298424)

 :rollin like seriously?  Some things never change

:lol You should see our news headlines. "HBO show Chernobyl is once again accused of deliberately falsifying the facts about the catastrophe" and so on.

All of my friends who watched the show praised it. Hell, even the bartender in my local bar recommended it to me yesterday. I should really watch this tbh.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 09, 2019, 11:51:54 AM
Great finale, such a terrible tragedy the whole thing.

The only thing I would have prefered is actually non-english dialogue because that could really change the tone and make it even more authentic imo.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: ReaperKK on June 09, 2019, 05:57:34 PM
Just binged the whole thing and loved it. One of the best things I've seen on TV in a long time, maybe ever.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Zydar on June 10, 2019, 12:03:25 AM
What a great show.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: ReaperKK on June 10, 2019, 05:10:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/30QB6an.jpg)
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Logain Ablar on June 10, 2019, 08:24:14 AM
Great show, not a happy show, but really really well done.

That guy above is like the worst boss you've ever had, times 10.

"Err, sir, number 4 reactor has exploded". "No it hasn't, you must be mistaken". Huh?? I was shouting at the TV at that point.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 10, 2019, 08:27:22 AM

That guy above is like the worst boss you've ever had, times 10.

"Err, sir, number 4 reactor has exploded". "No it hasn't, you must be mistaken". Huh?? I was shouting at the TV at that point.

And not only that, he's like "Go stand directly above it, look inside and die a miserable death where you skin falls off". No thanks buddy  :lol
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Logain Ablar on June 10, 2019, 09:58:52 AM
That episode where the men (biorobots!) worked in 90 second shifts to clear the graphite off the roof was one of the most tense things I’ve watched on TV for quite a while.

I felt sorry for the poor supervisor, standing just inside the door with his clipboard. How long was that guy standing there himself?
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: krands85 on June 11, 2019, 05:07:29 AM
I finished this last night after watching it over the last few days. I was a little skeptical after seeing all the praise it was getting, but it really was excellent. They really nailed the atmosphere of it all, it was just so bleak. It was maddening seeing all the bureaucracy and lies, but also incredible learning about the scale of all the cleanup efforts and seeing the bravery of the likes of the miners, the men on the roof and the ones who went down to drain the water.

Great performances from Harris and Skarsgard too.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on June 11, 2019, 05:20:31 AM
Since the hype is strong, I will start watching it as well. I plan to begin this evening.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on June 11, 2019, 03:05:49 PM
Aaaaand the hype was justified. Brilliant first episode. Really portrays well the scope of the disaster and the panic of those first hours.

I was just a small kid when it happened so I have very vague memories of it - just the news, maybe a drawing we did at school, some hazy memories of being careful which food to eat (Italy was very scarcely, if at all, affected). This helps to realize better what a colossal disaster it was.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Cyclopssss on June 12, 2019, 04:37:44 AM
What a fantastic achievement. Also, can we just talk about how damn scary that music score is?
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on June 13, 2019, 04:42:38 AM
Also the second episode was great. The "We need your permission to kill three men" scene was so intense. The Boris dude, the one who had to go with Jared Harris, was stubborn and a prick, but not a complete and unreasonable asshole, when the truth stared at him in the face he didn't look away, and he reluctantly realized that the other scientist was right.

If all the other three episodes are this good, I can see why the rating are through the (covered with graphite) roof.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Zydar on June 13, 2019, 04:48:06 AM
Just wait til you get to the last episode. Chills.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: ReaperKK on June 13, 2019, 05:19:42 AM
Just wait til you get to the last episode. Chills.

The last episode was so tense
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Post by: cramx3 on June 13, 2019, 09:33:00 AM
Yup, the ending was soooo good.  I couldn't believe they were able to make an ending to a known story so impactful
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: faizoff on June 13, 2019, 10:57:50 AM
Binged this series and is as amazing as everyone mentioned. I love when you can take a real life event which pretty much everyone knows about and inject so much drama and characterization into it.

I've started listening to the podcast now and that is also fantastic.

Jared Harris is one of my favorite actors, he's great in all that I've watched so far. Mad Men, The Terror and of course this show display his amazing acting chops.
The final episode was a great end to the series, I was wondering how they would tie it up and man did they do a fantastic job of it.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: ReaperKK on June 13, 2019, 11:41:08 AM
I forgot there was a podcast! I’m going to go check it out right now. It’s rare that show gripped me the way this one did. I sat down to watch an episode and ended up watching all of them.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on June 13, 2019, 03:05:21 PM
Third episode gone. Holy shit the bodies of the victims....  :omg: an horror movie!!! maybe it was not an episode filled with continue tension like the previous ones, given that the immediate emergency was dealt with, but it's still gripping to follow.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on June 17, 2019, 02:53:14 PM
And also the fourth was great. Definitively the slower so far, but the scene on the roof with 90 seconds of time for the soldiers to push graphite blocks off the roof was filled with tension. Impressive job episode after episode!
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on June 18, 2019, 03:11:19 PM
Finished. I wonder how they would top it all since all the crisis of the explotion was gone.... and they delivered big time. The trial was so intense, and the explanation were actually clear. It was also a great choice to keep the actual build up to the explosion only until now, I remember thinking during the first episode that yes, we saw the panic in the control room but we didn't really see in full the disaster.... keeping it for the final episode now that we all got a basic understanding of the situation was very clever. Also the final captions were chilling, I can't believe it happened when I was a kid and that my nation was (even if scarcely) impacted, and that now life goes on as it didn't really happen.

A masterpiece of a mini series, through and through. It deserves to win all the awards there are to win for this!
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: cramx3 on June 18, 2019, 03:32:54 PM
It was also a great choice to keep the actual build up to the explosion only until now, I remember thinking during the first episode that yes, we saw the panic in the control room but we didn't really see in full the disaster....

After I watched the first episode and we didn't see an explosion, I was kind of dissapointed.  But the show was soo good I overlooked it and figured "well, it's not really important I guess to see this" and then watching the final episode, it showed how important all those moments were leading up to the boom.  So well done.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 22, 2019, 07:03:41 AM
Honestly didn't notice the soundtrack that much when I saw the show but reading an article about the composer and how she made the music in an actual Nuclear Power Plant was pretty cool.

https://cdm.link/2019/05/chernobyl-score-hildur-gudnadottir/

Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Chino on June 24, 2019, 06:16:40 AM
Watched the first episode of this last night.

Good stuff.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Chino on July 03, 2019, 05:56:50 AM
I got around to wrapping this up last night. I loved how this series ended. I thought the series as a whole was really great, but that last episode was damn near perfect.

I would love to see HBO do a similar mini series about the Titanic. I know we've had a few movies over the decades, but none really focused on the days and weeks that followed, or what was going on in the most dangerous parts of the ship leading up to and during the sinking. I initially thought this mini series was going to focus on the people around Chernobyl, but was very happy that it stuck primarily to the plant, its workers, and the rescue/repair effort. I think something very similar could be done for the Titanic.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on July 03, 2019, 06:36:23 AM
I got around to wrapping this up last night. I loved how this series ended. I thought the series as a whole was really great, but that last episode was damn near perfect.

"And that's how an RMBK reactor explodes". How to disagree, the finale was mindblowing and brought full circle the story.

The whole series actually was great and basically perfect. Only part I could do without (or with a significantly shorter screen time) was the dogs chase, but for the rest everything played out brilliantly. I'll probably rewatch it sometime down the line, I bet it will be even better upon a second viewing.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: kaos2900 on July 03, 2019, 09:21:00 AM
Listening to the Podcast. Amazing show. The one thing I would have changed was having the main guy kill himself at the very beginning.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: XJDenton on July 03, 2019, 02:13:48 PM
3.6/5.0.

Not great, not terrible.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: MirrorMask on July 03, 2019, 02:15:56 PM
3.6/5.0.

Not great, not terrible.

 :metal
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: XJDenton on July 03, 2019, 02:18:30 PM
In seriousness though, this show was incredible. Some of the best atmosphere and pure dread in any show I have seen. Also contains one of my favourite lines:

"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid." - Legasov.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 10, 2019, 09:05:56 AM
Just watched the PBS special on "Building Chernobyl's Megatomb" on Netflix, done in 2017.  Really good documentary if you haven't seen it!  It documents the best conceived idea with regards to entombing and dismantling the reactor.   Well worth the watch!
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Chino on July 10, 2019, 09:21:43 AM
Just watched the PBS special on "Building Chernobyl's Megatomb" on Netflix, done in 2017.  Really good documentary if you haven't seen it!  It documents the best conceived idea with regards to entombing and dismantling the reactor.   Well worth the watch!

I second this. I remember watching it when it came out. It was a seriously ambitious project.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 10, 2019, 09:48:21 AM
Watching the documentary now. Very fascinating and the ingenuity is admirable
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Harmony on July 12, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
Ok, convince me to try this show again.  Honestly I'm not a squeamish person in general.  I'm not a fan of slice and dice slasher films or anything, but blood and gore doesn't bother me much if it isn't terribly gratuitous.  But I watched episode one and it bothered me for days.  Just the pure horror of the meltdown and the fact that people's skin were literally sliding off.  I don't know.  I definitely got the heebie jeebies big time....and maybe that is the sign of a good show haha, I don't know.

I want to watch it for Jerod Harris alone.  That guy is phenomenal and is not in the first episode much though obviously must be one of the main characters. 

So tell me (I didn't read much of the thread for spoiler reasons), is episode 1 just a set up for the show and the ick factor will diminish as I continue or is episode 1 pretty much the entire feel of the series?
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: cramx3 on July 12, 2019, 12:40:09 PM
Ok, convince me to try this show again.  Honestly I'm not a squeamish person in general.  I'm not a fan of slice and dice slasher films or anything, but blood and gore doesn't bother me much if it isn't terribly gratuitous.  But I watched episode one and it bothered me for days.  Just the pure horror of the meltdown and the fact that people's skin were literally sliding off.  I don't know.  I definitely got the heebie jeebies big time....and maybe that is the sign of a good show haha, I don't know.

I want to watch it for Jerod Harris alone.  That guy is phenomenal and is not in the first episode much though obviously must be one of the main characters. 

So tell me (I didn't read much of the thread for spoiler reasons), is episode 1 just a set up for the show and the ick factor will diminish as I continue or is episode 1 pretty much the entire feel of the series?

It's really going to give the heebie jeebies the whole show but for different reasons each episode.  It's really not a very gorey show(to me), but it makes you feel like shit is really fucked up and hence that uneasy feeling, that stays.  Even in the end when it's kind of "over" you still feel that uneasiness just from the political standpoint of how things played out.  To me, that's what made it such an awesome show.  I couldn't recommend it more and it sounds like you want to so you just should.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Harmony on July 12, 2019, 12:59:28 PM
Ok, convince me to try this show again.  Honestly I'm not a squeamish person in general.  I'm not a fan of slice and dice slasher films or anything, but blood and gore doesn't bother me much if it isn't terribly gratuitous.  But I watched episode one and it bothered me for days.  Just the pure horror of the meltdown and the fact that people's skin were literally sliding off.  I don't know.  I definitely got the heebie jeebies big time....and maybe that is the sign of a good show haha, I don't know.

I want to watch it for Jerod Harris alone.  That guy is phenomenal and is not in the first episode much though obviously must be one of the main characters. 

So tell me (I didn't read much of the thread for spoiler reasons), is episode 1 just a set up for the show and the ick factor will diminish as I continue or is episode 1 pretty much the entire feel of the series?

It's really going to give the heebie jeebies the whole show but for different reasons each episode.  It's really not a very gorey show(to me), but it makes you feel like shit is really fucked up and hence that uneasy feeling, that stays.  Even in the end when it's kind of "over" you still feel that uneasiness just from the political standpoint of how things played out.  To me, that's what made it such an awesome show.  I couldn't recommend it more and it sounds like you want to so you just should.

LoL - this did not help me!   :lol

I'm kidding.  I just maybe need to be in the right mental frame for it.  Maybe while I'm on vacation in a week.... :laugh:
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Grappler on July 12, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
The show is definitely designed to give you the heebie jeebies, but that's what made it so compelling.  Jared Harris absolutely owned the final episode and I was just riveted to the TV while watching it.
Title: Re: Chernobyl (HBO show)
Post by: Chino on July 12, 2019, 02:23:05 PM
The show is definitely designed to give you the heebie jeebies

The scene with the three guys and the flashlights had my heart pumping.