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Title: Everest
Post by: The Trooper on March 26, 2019, 02:08:48 PM
Spent the past few days with my sons in Florida. Leave for Denver tomorrow to do some altitude and small climbs and pick up last of my gear.

Spending 5 days here doing some small climbs and cardio. Get checked by  docs. Lots of exams to even get started.
Leave Denver on April 2nd. Fly in and spend a few days at higher atmosphere. Takes a few days(10) to hit first camp way below the MOUNTAIN. Then the fun starts for a month. Before climb.Small climbs up Everest and getting acclimated to the oxygen/atmosphere. Don't get any cell there, just satellite phone.

Ill take a pick in Nepal if I can
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 26, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
Best of Luck!!!  :tup   What an exciting thing to do!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 26, 2019, 03:25:42 PM
That's freakin awesome, best of luck to you!  :)



Title: Re: Everest
Post by: rumborak on March 26, 2019, 04:29:32 PM
The highest I've ever been was 12,000 feet, that was enough for me. Even taking a leak leaves you out of breath.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: El Barto on March 26, 2019, 05:35:20 PM
The highest I've ever been was 12,000 feet, that was enough for me. Even taking a leak leaves you out of breath.
I've been over 14k. Didn't bother me, but I wasn't trying to run marathons, either. 
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: krands85 on March 26, 2019, 06:51:55 PM
The highest I've ever been was 12,000 feet, that was enough for me. Even taking a leak leaves you out of breath.
Same here. I was starting to feel a little funny when I went up Teide in Tenerife which is around that height.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on March 26, 2019, 11:11:58 PM
So cool, good luck and be safe.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on March 27, 2019, 02:08:11 AM
Wow! Best of luck for what is one of the ultimate challenges, climbing on top of the world!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Nekov on March 27, 2019, 07:23:45 AM
Amazing! Best of luck dude. That's one of the items in my bucket list that I'm not sure I will be able to cross out. Post some picks when you come back  :smiley:
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: The Trooper on March 29, 2019, 06:43:29 PM
im not good at this, I usually keep to myself. keep my life private for numerous reasons (military). this is rare for me. I hope I don't bore anyone, actually in the next few days I start my journey.

this is a long process, mental tests, oxygen tests ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Title: Re: Everest
Post by: The Trooper on March 29, 2019, 06:47:30 PM
I,m a dork. LOL Wall Street broker in the late 80s turned...............................
Great quote from the movie wall st. ' life comes down to a few moments, this is one of them
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on March 29, 2019, 09:19:23 PM
I'm absolutely fascinated by it. Always had a passion for the mountains, though it's a discipline far beyond my financial means. I stick mostly to more average trails, though I've set a goal to climb Mt Whitney here in Cali. But to climb the big boys is a dangerous and intense venture, I've watched more that my share of documentaries on it, especially Meru, holy fuck were those guys insane. Share all you want bro.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TempusVox on March 31, 2019, 07:22:47 PM
Godspeed on your journey. What an amazing opportunity. Be safe.

I summitted Mt Rainier (14,410;) in college. Our group climbed with RMI. We were led by Lou Whittaker, who also led the first American ascent of the North Col of Mount Everest. He and his twin brother climbed Rainier hundreds of times. In fact, climbers all over the world used to climb Rainier in the winter (not advised), because snow/weather conditions were similair to the climb on Everest, and they trained by climbing Rainier then. Though not half as tall, it's apparently brutal in winter. Got our pic and certificate. Still a highlight experience for me. Now, I can't scale stairs without being winded.

Enjoy the ride!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: The Trooper on April 03, 2019, 08:39:07 PM
Did a week in Denver for altitude. numerous oxygen, physical tests leave in the morning. got delayed a day weather into Nepal.   feel good. few issues but im solid
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: ReaperKK on April 05, 2019, 07:51:09 PM
I really hope we get to see some pics
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on April 08, 2019, 11:08:22 AM
Following and
I really hope we get to see some pics

Quite impressive quest to even embark upon, let alone complete.  No matter what happens from here, congrats on being part of a very small, elite group of beings.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on April 21, 2019, 01:34:45 PM
The climbing season is under way, I'd gather he's at some stage of the journey.at this point, hopefully past the ice falls though, that shit is scary as fuck.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on May 25, 2019, 08:05:33 PM
Hopefully The Trooper is OK.


https://abcnews.go.com/International/latest-death-marks-10th-reported-mount-everest-amid/story?id=63274498
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on May 25, 2019, 08:10:24 PM
Hopefully The Trooper is OK.


https://abcnews.go.com/International/latest-death-marks-10th-reported-mount-everest-amid/story?id=63274498

I was just reading that also! Immediately thought of the Trooper!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on May 26, 2019, 12:14:25 AM
Hopefully The Trooper is OK.


https://abcnews.go.com/International/latest-death-marks-10th-reported-mount-everest-amid/story?id=63274498

The article says the guy was British and The Trooper’s profile says he’s from New Jersey so we at least know he’s not the subject of this article. Hopefully everything’s ok.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on May 27, 2019, 07:37:30 AM
Another guy sadly passed away, Don Cash from Utah. Not New Jersey. Fingers crossed for The Trooper and everybody else on top of the mountain!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: ReaperKK on May 27, 2019, 07:42:01 AM
I was just watching a news report on the congestion at Everest, crazy how many people are waiting to summit
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: ich bin besser on July 28, 2019, 12:07:32 AM
No news about him?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: vtgrad on July 29, 2019, 11:14:52 AM
I hope he's OK and made it through... this year was a tough year.  Honestly, the past several years have been tough years.

Having been obsessed with Everest most of my life, I see a time coming when it's not possible to climb with any measure of "safety planning", not because of acclimatization or the growth of the mountain in the death zone, but because the human factor cannot be judged with any measure of surety.  The barriers to attempting the Everest Summit are very, very low and traffic is at an all time high; those two factors don't mix well in the vertical world.  Add to that the fact that outfitters with less than ideal experience are popping up like weeds and lowering the monetary barrier even further, and I think we'll see climbing season overcrowding as the norm which will lead to more deaths... both Sherpa and Climber.

My opinion is torn because I understand that the Sherpa people (and Nepal itself to a great extent) build their economy on the western climbing communities and no climber or outfitter could come close to success without the Sherpa; however, the Nepalese Government should likely limit climbing permits to try control the flow of actual climbers and outfitters.

I have a goal to trek to Base Camp within the next 5-7 years or perhaps attach myself to a clean-up mission on the lower slopes; but an actual climb is a turn-off for me at this point based on what's happened in the past 10 years or so on and around the mountain.  Maybe I'm alone in that view...

I'm sure Trooper can attest to what we've all seen... I'd like to know that he's OK.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Nekov on July 29, 2019, 11:40:40 AM
Limiting the amount of licenses they hand out each year would be the ideal thing to do, however since Nepal lives off of the Everest I don't see that happening any time soon. And in case they did that, they prices would become so high that not many people would be able to do it.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on July 30, 2019, 03:47:55 AM
It's a sad state of things however. To think that the tallest mountain of the world, one that should be consider one of the "holy places" of our planet (not in a religious sense, more of a "wow" factor, a deep understanding of being in an amazing place), is littered with waste and corpses of dead alpinists, while the alive wait in line to climb just like people wait in line to enter a crowded beach, is a bit disheartening.

Maximum respect for all the climbers of the world, and their passion to reach the peaks of the mountains, but knowing what Everest is now leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on July 30, 2019, 07:21:38 AM
Uhh did The Trooper make it back? Quite a few deaths this year, well publicized.  One person from Colorado, although his profile says NJ, he did also say he was going to be in Colorado. 
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on July 30, 2019, 07:30:04 AM
I don't know how comprehensive the list is, but there is a Wiki page about people died on Mount Everest, updated to this year - Trooper's profile says he's 52 years old and none of the reported american victims were 52. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Architeuthis on August 01, 2019, 02:54:56 PM
I would even love to climb Mt Ranier. I have a heart condition since my early twenties that won t allow me to do that. Vigorous exercise really triggers my arrhythmias which makes it hard for me to even stay in shape..
I hope you have a great time and be careful. Know the elements and your limits.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on August 04, 2019, 04:15:30 AM
From time to time I find myself rereading about the discovery of Everest, the first part of the entry on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest

It's always fascinating to look back when the world was "new" and there was still something to discover, in this case finding out which was the tallest mountain on the planet. Read the "Early surveys" portion, it's a good read about the early surveys, the difficulties of travelling in a harsh and hostile (both naturally and politically) territory, spotting a mountian and wondering if that could be it, a taller one than the supposedly highest peak...

I think it's worthy material of a movie, maybe it's not terribly exciting and action driven to follow a bunch of guys measuring mountains, but it's a highly fascinating subject.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 15, 2019, 09:55:52 AM
Trooper? Anyone heard from him outside of DTF? Was he taking an extended travel after the climb?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: v_clortho on November 01, 2019, 07:33:16 PM
Any update here?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 05, 2019, 09:50:38 AM
It's been (8) Months since Trooper Posted  :(    I'm legit concerned. I just read another article today on how this was the deadliest season yet. Does anyone know him outside of DTF? Or Bosk...do you have any other way of contacting him through info. he might have used to sign up?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on December 05, 2019, 09:57:55 AM
It's been (8) Months since Trooper Posted  :(    I'm legit concerned. I just read another article today on how this was the deadliest season yet. Does anyone know him outside of DTF? Or Bosk...do you have any other way of contacting him through info. he might have used to sign up?

As said earlier the list of people died this year is public and you can find it even on Wikipedia, none of the americans deceased match his age or location. Let's hope he just forgot about this place.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Adami on December 05, 2019, 09:59:48 AM
I just looked at that list and it goes til May. I dunno when he did it or how long he takes, but if he was meant to be finished by the end of May, he'd be on that list.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: vtgrad on December 06, 2019, 10:27:54 AM
Himalayan Database says 11 deaths (9 on the Nepal side and 2 on the Tibet side):

4- Crowd Related (this is horrible... dying while waiting to summit)
4- Health Related
2- Altitude Related
1- Fall

From the reviews I've read, the Jet Stream was "wobbly" this year and the summit window was somewhat truncated during late May; this likely played a large part in the summit rush that caused the back-up from the photos we've seen.  Last season, I think they had 9 or 10 straight days with a perfect weather window and a record number of summits (something like 800 summits in 2018).. that didn't happen this year.


Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Lonk on April 01, 2020, 07:05:16 AM
Already a year and still nothing from The Trooper...
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on April 01, 2020, 10:25:18 AM
This may be DTF's biggest mystery
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Adami on April 01, 2020, 10:26:14 AM
This may be DTF's biggest mystery

I'd put money on him hanging out with Carol Baskin's husband.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Spiritus on October 17, 2020, 09:10:46 PM
Anyone else still wondering what happened?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: The Walrus on October 17, 2020, 10:24:44 PM
Anyone else still wondering what happened?

I think about this thread every few weeks. Hell just the other day it popped into my head when I heard someone talk about Everest.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
I wonder if any of the Mods know his real name or have any type of contact info at all?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on October 18, 2020, 03:07:18 AM
I wonder if any of the Mods know his real name or have any type of contact info at all?

There has to be in the database the mail used for registration I guess.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 30, 2020, 06:58:52 PM
Did a week in Denver for altitude. numerous oxygen, physical tests leave in the morning. got delayed a day weather into Nepal.   feel good. few issues but im solid

His last post......


Still wonder about the Trooper from time to time. I'm hopeful that he just forgot his login credentials or maybe he had some huge epiphany while standing atop the world and realized online forums are meaningless in the grand scheme of existence........
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: kirksnosehair on December 04, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
Or like 99.9% of what's posted on the internet, it was bullshit  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on December 04, 2020, 01:54:42 PM
Did a week in Denver for altitude. numerous oxygen, physical tests leave in the morning. got delayed a day weather into Nepal.   feel good. few issues but im solid

His last post......


Still wonder about the Trooper from time to time. I'm hopeful that he just forgot his login credentials or maybe he had some huge epiphany while standing atop the world and realized online forums are meaningless in the grand scheme of existence........

And he's now a Budhist Monk?  Turned Ahmish?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: nobloodyname on December 10, 2020, 12:17:21 AM
Or like 99.9% of what's posted on the internet, it was bullshit  :lol

Maybe. But it'd be a pretty niche thing to come and start a thread about just because. I imagine it was all true, and he's probably fine.

I went through a period of Everest fascination about five years ago. Could never climb it, or indeed any hill of note, since I really am terrible with heights, but it's fascinating to read about. I couldn't even get out of the car at a spot in Death Valley a few years ago :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on July 30, 2021, 08:18:10 PM
Ok pure speculation here, but I think the title track is all about the forum member who was going to Everest and then just disappeared. A tribute is sorts.

Wow, I totally forgot about that. Hope he’s okay and just moved on. Maybe the new record will draw him back? (Anyone remember the guy’s name?)

Pretty sure he shuffled off this mortal coil, unfortunately.


Why are you pretty sure? Do you know something?


According to Wiki, three American climbers died on Everest in 2019.

1. Chris Daly, age 35, died April 20, 2019
2. Donald Cash, age 55, died May 22, 2019
3. Christopher John Kulish, age 62, May 27, 2019


The Trooper shows his age as 54 in his DTF profile.

@Bosk, can you confirm if any of these are The Trooper?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on July 30, 2021, 08:36:27 PM
Also this:


According to this video, Donald Cash climbed the highest peak on each continent..

https://youtu.be/5p_KErg28xw?t=90


And The Trooper posted this..

lol see my Everest thread. 29,000 feet guess explains it :P :mehlin :mehlin :mehlin

Summit baby

Ill skydive from 15,000 feet. climb 5 of the highest peaks in the world.

I don't know if I will make Everest. Something I NEED to do, May sound selfish. and that is ok. I may die, im ok with that,  lol I have dodged death in Syria, iran, Afghanistan, when your time is up its up


Here's Don Cash's Instagram page.

https://www.instagram.com/don_cash2/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=728b3ad6-b2db-4f08-b008-96a9f6ef9228



Again, no idea if this is The Trooper.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: XJDenton on July 30, 2021, 08:51:12 PM
His email suggests his name is M. Lamendola and his location as listed on the forum was NJ. So doubtful its the same person.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on July 30, 2021, 08:54:28 PM
His email suggests his name is M. Lamendola and his home at the time was NJ. So doubtful its the same person.

Ok great. Thank you for sharing that information.



OK, ignore the previous two posts.  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on July 30, 2021, 08:55:33 PM
Interesting that both Chris Daly and Don Cash had brothers that passed away before each of them.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 02, 2021, 12:22:43 PM
Bump in the search for Trooper.......
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 02, 2021, 12:25:19 PM
I was hoping TAC was on to something there....   
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 02, 2021, 12:29:10 PM
Possible Scenario #379

Trooper through a series of unfortunate events out of his control......was found guilty of attempted smuggling and is sitting in a Nepalese prison right now.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Adami on November 02, 2021, 12:30:12 PM
I think you're all missing the obvious....


...after reaching the peak, he found the rare flower he was seeking, returned it to the hidden monastery and is currently training to be Batman.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2021, 12:32:16 PM
Hopefully his self belief built a life of legacy.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: ReaperKK on November 02, 2021, 12:32:27 PM
I think you're all missing the obvious....


...after reaching the peak, he found the rare flower he was seeking, returned it to the hidden monastery and is currently training to be Batman.

This seems like the most likely scenario IMO
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on November 03, 2021, 02:33:57 AM
Or he enjoyed a view from the top of the world and now can't post anymore because he talked to DT, and they don't want us to know where they got the idea for the new album from.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Spiritus on November 03, 2021, 03:39:40 AM
I'm still very curious about this. I love all things mountaineering so would love to read a whole write up from him and see cool pics.
Hopefully the guy is alright and maybe he just totally forgot about this post/forum, what with all the "climbing highest peaks of the world stuff"
That or he is following this and getting a kick from it and not responding, which would be just rude sir. >:(
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 03, 2021, 08:58:26 AM
One of DTF's greatest mysteries
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 03, 2021, 09:29:52 AM
Yea I mean the fact that his last post on DTF was April 04, 2019, 02:39:07 and his last visit on the site was 10mins later April 04, 2019, 02:49:24.  :omg:



Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2021, 09:48:16 AM
Yea I mean the fact that his last post on DTF was April 04, 2019, 02:39:07 and his last visit on the site was 10mins later April 04, 2019, 02:49:24.  :omg:

...and....he'd been a member since 2013 with over 1200 posts so it's not like he was a 'stranger'. I'd imagine this is an accomplishment he'd want to share with as many people as possible once completed. That's why it seems hard to imagine that he just said 'F' it and hasn't logged back in....that, something more drastic has hamstrung him from logging on.

Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Adami on November 03, 2021, 10:16:07 AM
He’s not on the list of fatalities on Wiki. Who knows?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 03, 2021, 11:43:20 AM
His email suggests his name is M. Lamendola and his location as listed on the forum was NJ. So doubtful its the same person.

Shit totally missed this. I'm guessing this is Marc Lamendola, we were FB friends and he used to write for the webzine when it started. His FB page has been dead for ages, long before this thread was started.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 03, 2021, 11:48:04 AM
I don't mean this to be funny or to make light, but it would be ironic if it had nothing to do with Everest at all and he got hit by a bus getting breakfast, or something like that.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2021, 11:48:16 AM
Can a mod that has access to his email contact him? Does that violate anything in the DTF Constitution?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: v_clortho on November 03, 2021, 11:49:56 AM
did a quick google search. Is this him?

https://obits.nj.com/us/obituaries/starledger/name/mark-lamendola-obituary?pid=192876709
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 03, 2021, 11:54:18 AM
Came here just to post the same thing (essentially).

Hopefully he got to climb Everest before this.    :-\
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 03, 2021, 11:56:55 AM
did a quick google search. Is this him?

https://obits.nj.com/us/obituaries/starledger/name/mark-lamendola-obituary?pid=192876709
Probably. He had a kid named Aiden, found it mentioned in past Facebook post
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2021, 11:59:18 AM
Oh wow.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Zydar on November 03, 2021, 12:02:44 PM
Damn  :-[
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: T-ski on November 03, 2021, 12:13:20 PM
This is not the ending we were hoping for.

Hope he made his climb.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2021, 12:15:56 PM
Came here just to post the same thing (essentially).

Hopefully he got to climb Everest before this.    :-\

His last post was on April 03, 2019. Obituary says he passed away on May 9, 2019. Just a hair over a month after his last post where he said:

Did a week in Denver for altitude. numerous oxygen, physical tests leave in the morning. got delayed a day weather into Nepal.   feel good. few issues but im solid

It doesn't seem like a month would be enough time to get to Nepal and make the climb....especially since isn't it a solid 2 weeks at base camp before they can even try to ascent?

Nonetheless.....this is really sad news. I was truly hoping for a 'happy' resolution to this but it appears that won't be the case.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Lonk on November 03, 2021, 12:17:33 PM
Some of his posts mentioned the climb was from the 5th to the 20th. So if that is really him, doubt he made it to the top.  :(
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2021, 12:25:17 PM
Some of his posts mentioned the climb was from the 5th to the 20th. So if that is really him, doubt he made it to the top.  :(

With no mention of him in the official deaths on Everest that season.....I wonder if he even got out of country? His last post mentioned a 'few issues'?

I didn't know this guy from Adam but for some reason am very saddened by learning this. 52 is WAY too young.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 03, 2021, 12:32:39 PM
did a quick google search. Is this him?

https://obits.nj.com/us/obituaries/starledger/name/mark-lamendola-obituary?pid=192876709
Probably. He had a kid named Aiden, found it mentioned in past Facebook post

oh shoot, I guess mystery is kind of solved but very sad.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: v_clortho on November 03, 2021, 12:33:17 PM
Yeah this sucks. I see the first summit in 2019 was after his death and he isn't on the list of people to summit in 2019. Bummer all around.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 03, 2021, 12:54:03 PM
Now curiosity is killing the cat; I want to know the cause of death, to know if it's related (or not) to the climb. 
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 03, 2021, 12:55:01 PM
Now curiosity is killing the cat; I want to know the cause of death, to know if it's related (or not) to the climb.

I searched through all posts on Facebook from his friends, didn't see anything listed.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 03, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Now curiosity is killing the cat; I want to know the cause of death, to know if it's related (or not) to the climb.

I searched through all posts on Facebook from his friends, didn't see anything listed.

The obituary lists the funeral homes phone number. I wonder if they'd A) know  B) Be willing/able to tell a random stranger?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 03, 2021, 01:03:58 PM
Now curiosity is killing the cat; I want to know the cause of death, to know if it's related (or not) to the climb.

I searched through all posts on Facebook from his friends, didn't see anything listed.

The obituary lists the funeral homes phone number. I wonder if they'd A) know  B) Be willing/able to tell a random stranger?

I'm sure there are layers and layers of laws against that, though a certain mortician/DTF mod would know better than I.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: El Barto on November 03, 2021, 01:22:27 PM
If he was following the standard itinerary, and of course he was, he'd have been well into the climb at the time of his passing. Days 17-50 are where you're well above base camp, and he'd have been 34 days into his expidition. Since he's not listed as an Everest fatality, it's safe to assume something went awry in Nepal but before the climb.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 03, 2021, 01:33:05 PM
This is sad to hear.  :(
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on November 03, 2021, 01:58:43 PM
Damn. He had a month to live for whatever reason, and he wanted to do something big and memorable..... that's sad.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 03, 2021, 02:02:46 PM
Damn. He had a month to live for whatever reason, and he wanted to do something big and memorable..... that's sad.

Now that you worded it this way, maybe you're onto something.  Maybe he had a medical condition and knew his time was coming up and wanted to do this last big thing.  I guess we will never know.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 03, 2021, 04:50:51 PM
Courtesy of RJ:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51653073448_a03bd1d333_c.jpg)

Guess this is the actual confirmation that Trooper was indeed Marc Lamendola. Damn... kid would've been 13 when he lost Trooper.   :'(
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2021, 06:14:07 PM
I did the math as well. That is awful.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Cool Chris on November 03, 2021, 09:00:24 PM
Indeed. Good research guys, I guess we can have closure, small consolation though it may be.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 04, 2021, 06:49:43 AM
Not that I navel gaze like this too often, but occassionally...   it's events like these that do make me appreciate what I have in terms of friends, family and community, and how ephemeral it really is.   I would like to think, I would HOPE, that if I pass in an untimely way like this, that those that care would take the effort like some of you did.   I'm proud to call (some of you, hahaha, I'm kidding) friends. 
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 04, 2021, 07:43:57 AM
Wait, so this guy had some relationship to lady obscure?  She used to be a regular here, maybe she knows what actually happened?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 04, 2021, 08:08:44 AM
Wait, so this guy had some relationship to lady obscure?  She used to be a regular here, maybe she knows what actually happened?

He was a writer for our webzine, and short lived at that. She's basically been off the grid for the last three or so years. She wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 04, 2021, 09:37:18 AM
Wait, so this guy had some relationship to lady obscure?  She used to be a regular here, maybe she knows what actually happened?

He was a writer for our webzine, and short lived at that. She's basically been off the grid for the last three or so years. She wouldn't know.

So Lady Obscure really is obscure at this point?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 04, 2021, 09:44:44 AM
Wait, so this guy had some relationship to lady obscure?  She used to be a regular here, maybe she knows what actually happened?

He was a writer for our webzine, and short lived at that. She's basically been off the grid for the last three or so years. She wouldn't know.

So Lady Obscure really is obscure at this point?

:icy:
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Zydar on November 04, 2021, 10:05:45 AM
well she sure is a Lady :zydar:
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on November 04, 2021, 10:31:20 AM
:obscuredbyclouds:
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Chino on November 04, 2021, 11:09:32 AM
Not that I navel gaze like this too often, but occassionally...   it's events like these that do make me appreciate what I have in terms of friends, family and community, and how ephemeral it really is.   I would like to think, I would HOPE, that if I pass in an untimely way like this, that those that care would take the effort like some of you did.   I'm proud to call (some of you, hahaha, I'm kidding) friends.

I already have two people tasked with informing this place of my untimely demise should it occur  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: pg1067 on November 04, 2021, 11:10:07 AM
Has it occurred to anyone that Mark Lamendola (the guy from the obituary) might not be the same guy as Marc Lamendola (the guy from Facebook)?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on November 04, 2021, 11:13:54 AM
No.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Chino on November 04, 2021, 11:20:00 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX8mRrFUcAAKPip.jpg) 

For real though, I know tons of people that purposely misspell their names on social media. Pretty much every teacher I know does it to make it harder for their students to find them.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 04, 2021, 11:20:46 AM
Has it occurred to anyone that Mark Lamendola (the guy from the obituary) might not be the same guy as Marc Lamendola (the guy from Facebook)?

In the obituary his name is also spelled Marc, and the same obituary is linked to FB posts surrounding his death. It's him
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 04, 2021, 11:35:22 AM
Not that I navel gaze like this too often, but occassionally...   it's events like these that do make me appreciate what I have in terms of friends, family and community, and how ephemeral it really is.   I would like to think, I would HOPE, that if I pass in an untimely way like this, that those that care would take the effort like some of you did.   I'm proud to call (some of you, hahaha, I'm kidding) friends.

I already have two people tasked with informing this place of my untimely demise should it occur  :lol

I've thought about that too.  Or something similar, like writing a letter and having it mail when/if I go.   But I'd be paranoid about updating that letter to the point I'd never seal the envelope!  :)
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on November 04, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
I probably should do that as well, and make arrangements for a smooth transition in the event Nick has to assume the throne.  (he is second in line, by the way; Borlag is #1)
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 04, 2021, 11:47:59 AM
Has it occurred to anyone that Mark Lamendola (the guy from the obituary) might not be the same guy as Marc Lamendola (the guy from Facebook)?

In the obituary his name is also spelled Marc, and the same obituary is linked to FB posts surrounding his death. It's him

Looking at the obituary.  The headlines say Mark, but the description says Marc.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lordxizor on November 04, 2021, 11:58:35 AM
Well this is very sad news. If anyone really want to take a leap, they could try to look up the next of kin listed in the obituary and reach out to see if they can gain some info. But that might be crossing a line...
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 04, 2021, 11:58:47 AM
Has it occurred to anyone that Mark Lamendola (the guy from the obituary) might not be the same guy as Marc Lamendola (the guy from Facebook)?

In the obituary his name is also spelled Marc, and the same obituary is linked to FB posts surrounding his death. It's him

Looking at the obituary.  The headlines say Mark, but the description says Marc.

As someone also named Marc, id be rolling over in my grave if I knew my obituary called me Mark   :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jammindude on November 04, 2021, 11:58:58 AM
Not that I navel gaze like this too often, but occassionally...   it's events like these that do make me appreciate what I have in terms of friends, family and community, and how ephemeral it really is.   I would like to think, I would HOPE, that if I pass in an untimely way like this, that those that care would take the effort like some of you did.   I'm proud to call (some of you, hahaha, I'm kidding) friends.

I already have two people tasked with informing this place of my untimely demise should it occur  :lol

Scotty and I are pretty close, so I’m sure he would make a post if anything ever happened to me.  But ya, I sometimes muse over my online presence and sometimes worry about people not being contacted in the event of my death.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 04, 2021, 12:08:04 PM
Not that I navel gaze like this too often, but occassionally...   it's events like these that do make me appreciate what I have in terms of friends, family and community, and how ephemeral it really is.   I would like to think, I would HOPE, that if I pass in an untimely way like this, that those that care would take the effort like some of you did.   I'm proud to call (some of you, hahaha, I'm kidding) friends.

I already have two people tasked with informing this place of my untimely demise should it occur  :lol

Is one the same dude that told us about you falling off the balcony with the 'Chino' s dumbass'thread?


Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Chino on November 04, 2021, 12:10:43 PM
Not that I navel gaze like this too often, but occassionally...   it's events like these that do make me appreciate what I have in terms of friends, family and community, and how ephemeral it really is.   I would like to think, I would HOPE, that if I pass in an untimely way like this, that those that care would take the effort like some of you did.   I'm proud to call (some of you, hahaha, I'm kidding) friends.

I already have two people tasked with informing this place of my untimely demise should it occur  :lol

Is one the same dude that told us about you falling off the balcony with the 'Chino' s dumbass'thread?

Lmao. No. But knowing him, he'd take it upon himself to do so.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 12:11:14 PM
I probably should do that as well, and make arrangements for a smooth transition in the event Nick has to assume the throne.  (he is second in line, by the way; Borlag is #1)

No way, fuck that. You'll be plugged to a machine into infinity.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 04, 2021, 01:47:42 PM
As someone also named Marc, id be rolling over in my grave if I knew my obituary called me Mark   :lol

That'd be Kramx3 style!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 04, 2021, 01:53:19 PM
 :lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark. 
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on November 04, 2021, 02:17:30 PM
How do you feel about Marque?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 04, 2021, 02:23:40 PM
How do you feel about Marque?

 :lol I'd have to see it to have feelings and well, I just laughed a little on the first time seeing it
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: vtgrad on November 04, 2021, 02:26:57 PM
If he was following the standard itinerary, and of course he was, he'd have been well into the climb at the time of his passing. Days 17-50 are where you're well above base camp, and he'd have been 34 days into his expidition. Since he's not listed as an Everest fatality, it's safe to assume something went awry in Nepal but before the climb.

Yep... likely no way he had the time to acclimatize for a summit prior to the assumed date of his passing.  Assuming that the annual death-count on Everest would only include climbers at Base Camp or beyond, he may have had acclimatizing issues on the trek in from Nepal/Kat and had to deal with Cerebral Edema (HACE) and it's side effects; there are a few mini hospitals along the trek for just such emergencies and I'd bet that he may not have made it to base camp (meaning he wouldn't be in the official numbers that we could find).

A shame either way... I hate to hear that he's passed, but if he did pass on the way in, he passed doing something he loved and likely without pain.  There are worse ways to meet God... those mountains would be one of the best I would think, especially for a seasoned mountaineer (sounds like he was).  RIP
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 04, 2021, 02:51:19 PM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 02:56:19 PM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.


(https://i.imgflip.com/5t06hs.jpg)
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 04, 2021, 02:56:44 PM
So what do you do to make sure that no one calls you Will?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on November 04, 2021, 02:58:36 PM
That's odd.  I have it on good authority that big, bad Bill really is sweet William now. 
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: hunnus2000 on November 04, 2021, 03:14:15 PM
That's odd.  I have it on good authority that big, bad Bill really is sweet William now.

Nice!  :tup
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: El Barto on November 04, 2021, 03:16:26 PM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 04, 2021, 03:22:37 PM
While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

Honestly, I go right to Dick.

That's odd.  I have it on good authority that big, bad Bill really is sweet William now. 

You are on a role today  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 03:26:43 PM

Honestly, I go right to Dick.

(https://media.makeameme.org/created/is-that-so-cmcvq3.jpg)
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 03:29:48 PM
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

Do you actually prefer Barto?


I agree about introductions.


I hate when people spell my name Cra.... It's O like the Ozzy song dammit!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on November 04, 2021, 03:34:47 PM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

I completely get what you are saying.  But it is also pretty rare for people to use...the longer version of your name.  I think it's a normal assumption to go right to the short version, isn't it?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: El Barto on November 04, 2021, 03:55:15 PM
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

Do you actually prefer Barto?
That' EL Barto to you, Timothy!

Truth be told, it depends on the person. But often times yes. I'm fine with people calling me either, though, and I'm happy to let them choose their preference.  Unless. . .


I completely get what you are saying.  But it is also pretty rare for people to use...the longer version of your name.  I think it's a normal assumption to go right to the short version, isn't it?
Some people are certainly going to move towards that; I get it. The issue is when I introduce myself with one name and the very next words out of their mouth is a different one. It's not the abbreviating of my name, per se, but rather the disregard for what I just told you. If that makes sense. There's a presumption there that I didn't mean what I said. Or at least an inference that we're close enough for it to not matter. A few sentences later and I don't care, although an "is Bart OK?" is certainly a nice, yet simple gesture.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 04, 2021, 04:09:44 PM
The only person that calls me Timothy is the receptionist at my Doctor's office. :lol

Although when I sign a check I sign Timothy, as that's what is printed at the top. I actually use it a lot when filling things out.

A lot of people at work call me Timmy. Not that I mind, because I don't, but I would never call another 53 y/o man Timmy. :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: bosk1 on November 04, 2021, 04:22:49 PM
I completely get what you are saying.  But it is also pretty rare for people to use...the longer version of your name.  I think it's a normal assumption to go right to the short version, isn't it?
Some people are certainly going to move towards that; I get it. The issue is when I introduce myself with one name and the very next words out of their mouth is a different one. It's not the abbreviating of my name, per se, but rather the disregard for what I just told you. If that makes sense. There's a presumption there that I didn't mean what I said. Or at least an inference that we're close enough for it to not matter. A few sentences later and I don't care, although an "is Bart OK?" is certainly a nice, yet simple gesture.

Gotcha.  :tup  I think I initially missed that part. 

...and I'm feeling a bit defensive because I'm pretty sure I jumped right to the short version when I P.M.'d you about something years ago.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Dream Team on November 04, 2021, 05:12:20 PM
On a slightly related note, that post from Lady Obscure . . . Frozen came out EIGHT years ago already???? Man time flies when you’re old.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: v_clortho on November 04, 2021, 08:37:08 PM

A lot of people at work call me Timmy. Not that I mind, because I don't, but I would never call another 53 y/o man Timmy. :lol

Do they say it in the South Park "Timmah" voice? I have a friend Tim and someone always ends up saying it like that.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: T-ski on November 04, 2021, 09:03:23 PM
How do you feel about Marque?

 :lol I'd have to see it to have feelings and well, I just laughed a little on the first time seeing it

I’m a Mark as well, and when I was about 10 I wanted to start spelling my name Marq because I thought it looked cool.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 04, 2021, 09:46:32 PM
I’m fine with any iteration of Joseph (that’s my actual name btw since I don’t think I’ve ever said it on these forums before) except for Joey, as that’s what my stepmom calls my dad and hearing it makes me sick.

I prefer Joe over Joseph though.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Spiritus on November 05, 2021, 01:28:39 AM
Well, that is really sad. RIP. I hoped this wouldn't turn out like it did.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: chknptpie on November 05, 2021, 07:02:20 AM
Well this is a sad ending to what started as such an exciting thread. Now I'm curious to know if any other members along the way have passed.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 05, 2021, 08:05:56 AM

Honestly, I go right to Dick.

(https://media.makeameme.org/created/is-that-so-cmcvq3.jpg)

That got a full on laugh out loud.   :)
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 05, 2021, 08:06:34 AM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

You're my witness:  I actually asked you point blank:  Is Bart ok?   :)
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 08:14:05 AM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

You're my witness:  I actually asked you point blank:  Is Bart ok?   :)

Well, sonofa ... I think I went straight to Bart.  I think my mind was coming from the train of thought that Bosk was spelling out.  I'm usually quite good at this.  I used to have an employee who's LAST name was Matthew, and one time a customer referred to him as "Matt" (because our email nomenclature was lastname, firstname)... and I thought "shit, you don't even know him enough to know that Matthew is his last name, and you went straight ahead to shortening it?!?!?"  I always look to see how people refer to themselves in their email signatures before referring to them by any short-hand.

@ Barto ... sorry bro.  :blush
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 05, 2021, 08:21:17 AM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

You're my witness:  I actually asked you point blank:  Is Bart ok?   :)

Well, sonofa ... I think I went straight to Bart.  I think my mind was coming from the train of thought that Bosk was spelling out.  I'm usually quite good at this.  I used to have an employee who's LAST name was Matthew, and one time a customer referred to him as "Matt" (because our email nomenclature was lastname, firstname)... and I thought "shit, you don't even know him enough to know that Matthew is his last name, and you went straight ahead to shortening it?!?!?"  I always look to see how people refer to themselves in their email signatures before referring to them by any short-hand.

@ Barto ... sorry bro.  :blush

For the record Chadford, I didn't say that to be a hero, because I'm not, but only to say that it's something that DOES register with me.   I don't know how or why - I dont' think it has to do with identity politics, but who knows - I do pay attention to that stuff.  I actually had a meeting with someone today; I got her resume and it was "C. Blofeld" and I was told her name was "Karen, with a C".  So I scheduled the meeting and said "Hi Caren, I hope this time works for you" and it turns out her name is "Caryn".  Although I was nominally in the power spot (she's a job candidate) I made sure I acknowledged my mistake.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Cool Chris on November 05, 2021, 08:49:02 AM
Did she bring a cat to the interview? And who writes their name on a resume with their first initial?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: El Barto on November 05, 2021, 09:03:17 AM
:lol

but seriously, it's one of the few pet peeves I have.  Doesn't bother me when it's someone I don't know, but it PISSES me off when I'm using work chat with someone I regularly work with and it clearly says my name Marc in the chat and the person still calls me Mark.

Haha, I hear you.  All my work stuff - email, phone book, HR system - says "William", but I go by "Bill".  NO ONE - not even my mom when she's angry - calls me William.  When I work with someone I will usually let slip "you can call me Bill".   There's a group in one of our manufacturing sites - two guys - that INSIST on calling me "William".  It's a running joke at this time.  I'm not pissed, or anything, but I do sort of look askance at that.  To me it's just... not rude, but oblivious.  I take great care to get people's names right out of respect.
My problem is when people immediately jump the short form of my name without asking, or even feeling me out about it.

Hi, El Barto, good to meet you. [extends hand]
Hi, Bart. It's a pleasure.

While I do have a preference, I'm not a hardass about Barto or anything. I'll normally tell people Bart is fine. It just seems presumptuous to automatically jump to the informal. If somebody introduces themselves as a Richard or a Matthew I'm not going to just start calling them Rich/k or Matt right off the bat.

You're my witness:  I actually asked you point blank:  Is Bart ok?   :)

Well, sonofa ... I think I went straight to Bart.  I think my mind was coming from the train of thought that Bosk was spelling out.  I'm usually quite good at this.  I used to have an employee who's LAST name was Matthew, and one time a customer referred to him as "Matt" (because our email nomenclature was lastname, firstname)... and I thought "shit, you don't even know him enough to know that Matthew is his last name, and you went straight ahead to shortening it?!?!?"  I always look to see how people refer to themselves in their email signatures before referring to them by any short-hand.

@ Barto ... sorry bro.  :blush
Non-issue. It honestly wouldn't have even registered with me. Like I said, it's the

Hi, I'm El Barto
Good to meet you, Bart


thing that bugs me. I meet with plenty of sales reps and vendors and it happens sometimes.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2021, 09:11:18 AM
I once had a salesman in my house a few years ago. We had introductions and he did his thing. He had some paper work to fill out and then he asks me….

How do you spell your name again?

WTF??

My name is fucking Tim.

The guy was an ass, clearly didn’t remember my name.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 09:12:39 AM
For the record Chadford, I didn't say that to be a hero, because I'm not,

Never thought you were.  And the "ford" is a new one on me (I dig it... just the right amount of pomposity and pretentiousness!).  I had a boss when I was a teenager call me Chadbert, and I didn't mind it.  Chadwick, I loathe.

Non-issue. It honestly wouldn't have even registered with me. Like I said, it's the
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I figured as much, but didn't want it to left unsaid written

Boy are we WAY off topic!   :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: El Barto on November 05, 2021, 09:15:36 AM
For the record Chadford, I didn't say that to be a hero, because I'm not,

Never thought you were.  And the "ford" is a new one on me (I dig it... just the right amount of pomposity and pretentiousness!).  I had a boss when I was a teenager call me Chadbert, and I didn't mind it.  Chadwick, I loathe.
I always called the brother of an old girlfriend Chadly, mostly because it hacked him off. To this day it's a battle to keep from calling Chads Chadly. I was fully expecting to have to apologize to you at some point.  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 09:33:15 AM
For the record Chadford, I didn't say that to be a hero, because I'm not,

Never thought you were.  And the "ford" is a new one on me (I dig it... just the right amount of pomposity and pretentiousness!).  I had a boss when I was a teenager call me Chadbert, and I didn't mind it.  Chadwick, I loathe.
I always called the brother of an old girlfriend Chadly, mostly because it hacked him off. To this day it's a battle to keep from calling Chads Chadly. I was fully expecting to have to apologize to you at some point.  :lol

I'm too old to care or be stuffed about any variation of my name.  I've had many a "Chadly" thrown at me.  I get stuffed when people (over email) call me Brad.  Like, WTF?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 05, 2021, 09:36:41 AM
Did she bring a cat to the interview? And who writes their name on a resume with their first initial?

No, no, I mistyped that.  I got her EMAIL - to schedule the interview - and it was "C".  I got the RESUME and found it was "Caryn".  Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 05, 2021, 09:37:47 AM
For the record Chadford, I didn't say that to be a hero, because I'm not,

Never thought you were.  And the "ford" is a new one on me (I dig it... just the right amount of pomposity and pretentiousness!).  I had a boss when I was a teenager call me Chadbert, and I didn't mind it.  Chadwick, I loathe.
I always called the brother of an old girlfriend Chadly, mostly because it hacked him off. To this day it's a battle to keep from calling Chads Chadly. I was fully expecting to have to apologize to you at some point.  :lol

I'm too old to care or be stuffed about any variation of my name.  I've had many a "Chadly" thrown at me.  I get stuffed when people (over email) call me Brad.  Like, WTF?

You kind of are a "Brad" though.   :) :) :)

Is "Chad" your given name?
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: v_clortho on November 05, 2021, 09:38:23 AM
I once had a salesman in my house a few years ago. We had introductions and he did his thing. He had some paper work to fill out and then he asks me….

How do you spell your name again?

WTF??

My name is fucking Tim.

The guy was an ass, clearly didn’t remember my name.

That's when you tell him, "Just like it sounds."
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: El Barto on November 05, 2021, 09:42:07 AM
I once had a salesman in my house a few years ago. We had introductions and he did his thing. He had some paper work to fill out and then he asks me….

How do you spell your name again?

WTF??

My name is fucking Tim.

The guy was an ass, clearly didn’t remember my name.

That's when you tell him, "Just like it sounds."
R A Y M O N D   L U X U R Y   Y A C H T
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 10:32:22 AM
Is "Chad" your given name?

Indeed it is.  Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 05, 2021, 11:29:36 AM
Is "Chad" your given name?

Indeed it is.  Nothing more, nothing less.

You'll forever be Chadford to me now.


Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Adami on November 05, 2021, 11:34:54 AM
Is "Chad" your given name?

Indeed it is.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well, if I ever routinely disagree with you, I'll promote you to Chadler.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 12:00:55 PM
Is "Chad" your given name?

Indeed it is.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well, if I ever routinely disagree with you, I'll promote you to Chadler.

No problem, Adam
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Adami on November 05, 2021, 12:02:23 PM
Is "Chad" your given name?

Indeed it is.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well, if I ever routinely disagree with you, I'll promote you to Chadler.

No problem, Adam

Now you’ve made the list buddy!!!
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: lonestar on November 05, 2021, 12:10:17 PM
Chadler  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Spiritus on November 05, 2021, 02:54:07 PM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2021, 03:24:14 PM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.


As far as I'm concerned, I just feel like we're all paying respect by gathering in his thread. Silly banter, sure.

I feel awful. I spent an entire evening a few months ago researching this. We're all pretty much the same age as him.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 05, 2021, 03:56:23 PM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.


As far as I'm concerned, I just feel like we're all paying respect by gathering in his thread. Silly banter, sure.

I feel awful. I spent an entire evening a few months ago researching this. We're all pretty much the same age as him.

This exactly (except the researching part)
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 06, 2021, 01:55:36 PM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.

You must be new here
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: v_clortho on November 06, 2021, 06:39:21 PM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.

What do you mean "you people?"
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 06, 2021, 08:56:05 PM
Reading about the death zone and all the bodies that are still there is some heavy stuff.

Its mental to think that you may sit down just for second and be frozen in time forever.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2021, 09:09:06 PM
Yeah, you can go down a Youtube rabbit hole about it.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 08, 2021, 05:18:01 AM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.

You must be new here

Haha.  Truth.   Give it a couple days and Wild Ranger will start a thread about the "Best Names".  Objectively.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jammindude on November 08, 2021, 06:56:27 AM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.

You must be new here

Haha.  Truth.   Give it a couple days and Wild Ranger will start a thread about the "Best Names".  Objectively.

 :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Chino on November 08, 2021, 07:05:08 AM
Reading about the death zone and all the bodies that are still there is some heavy stuff.

Its mental to think that you may sit down just for second and be frozen in time forever.

(https://i.imgur.com/H19BwDw.png)

Unless someone decides to use your corpse as a sled  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 08, 2021, 07:29:41 AM
So…..I did reach out to that funeral home and gave them the rundown of what ‘we’ as the DTF community we’re facing with this. I understand we don’t ‘need’ to know how Mark passed but I’m extremely curious given he was going to climb Everest…..I’d imagine a 52 year older man who was going to undertake that endeavor would have been in pretty good shape.

The Director just said that obviously she couldn’t tell me anything but she would reach out to the family and let them know ‘we’ were asking and that if she were given permission she’d let me know or they’d call me direct.

That was last Thursday. I highly doubt I hear anything but was just trying to learn more about this.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: vtgrad on November 08, 2021, 01:13:31 PM
So…..I did reach out to that funeral home and gave them the rundown of what ‘we’ as the DTF community we’re facing with this. I understand we don’t ‘need’ to know how Mark passed but I’m extremely curious given he was going to climb Everest…..I’d imagine a 52 year older man who was going to undertake that endeavor would have been in pretty good shape.

The Director just said that obviously she couldn’t tell me anything but she would reach out to the family and let them know ‘we’ were asking and that if she were given permission she’d let me know or they’d call me direct.

That was last Thursday. I highly doubt I hear anything but was just trying to learn more about this.

Thanks for doing that Gary... there I go jumping to conclusions by using an abbreviated name.  I'll just call him "G" next time.

It is a homage for all of us to come in here and take the thread off the rails... that's what happens here, no harm no foul.  I'd consider DTF fairly close-knit as message boards go having met or called several of your guys multiple times.  While we don't need to know what happened, knowing gives closure to an interesting story (from the outside looking in) and the family may want to share the actual story with Marc's online "friends".  Strange how music brings us together.

While listening to the title track from the new album today, and considering JP's inspiration for the song, it's ap per po for us to be talking about "the ranks of the elite" when it comes to Marc and his bid at Everest.  I think so anyway... even getting to Base Camp is an accomplishment.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2021, 01:15:43 PM
Gary, that's awesome.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone contacted you.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Stadler on November 08, 2021, 01:45:34 PM
As an aside, I don't get the "adherence" to thread titles and topics; sure in some cases it's nice to organize that way, but I know I view this as an on-going conversation among friends.  Not "on-line friends" but friends.  So just like in real life, if we were sitting at a bar talking, we might be talking about sports, then see a news break on the TV with Trump or COVID, and we veer off into that.  Then someone walks in with a goofy hat and you veer off to that.  Then it's time for another round and we debate the merits of potato vodka versus vodka made from grain.  Life isn't organized into neat threads; at least my life isn't.

I think it's that informality that lends itself to people who care, like we have here.   If it wasn't 3:45 pm I'd hoist a drink to you all.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 08, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
As an aside, I don't get the "adherence" to thread titles and topics; sure in some cases it's nice to organize that way, but I know I view this as an on-going conversation among friends.  Not "on-line friends" but friends.  So just like in real life, if we were sitting at a bar talking, we might be talking about sports, then see a news break on the TV with Trump or COVID, and we veer off into that.  Then someone walks in with a goofy hat and you veer off to that.  Then it's time for another round and we debate the merits of potato vodka versus vodka made from grain.  Life isn't organized into neat threads; at least my life isn't.

I think it's that informality that lends itself to people who care, like we have here.   If it wasn't 3:45 pm I'd hoist a drink to you all.

Yeah...I agree. It's not an issue to me for these threads to derail at times because usually it's just a natural progression of the conversation.....just like this 'derail' was. And....after a bit it gets back on topic. It's not like we were disrespecting Mark or his memory....we are all in this thread out of a curiosity towards a fellow DTF'r, father and man and as to why he simply disappeared from his online presence.

We have for the most part closure knowing what we know now. If the family see's fit to share more detail then we will know more...if not, we're just reminded once again that there is no promise that we will be around tomorrow....that at any instance our time here on earth can come to an end.....and that we should cherish the moments we have with friends, family and loved ones.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Chino on November 09, 2021, 05:37:12 AM
Damn. I just stumbled upon Trooper's second to last post in the heights thread. Super eery :(
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: MirrorMask on November 09, 2021, 05:42:41 AM
Damn. I just stumbled upon Trooper's second to last post in the heights thread. Super eery :(

Indeed....

tomorrow you can get hit by a bus walking across the street.
I don't know if I will make Everest. Something I NEED to do, May sound selfish. and that is ok. I may die, im ok with that,  lol I have dodged death in Syria, iran, Afghanistan, when your time is up its up

I don't want to over analyze his posts, but knowing he was not long for this world looks like he had something going on and he really wanted to conquer Everest before something bad could happen. Or maybe it's just a coincidence and he was just talking in general terms, "maybe I will die trying to summit like many others did", but knowing that he was about to pass away...... makes me think he knew he might be facing death and wanted to leave the world with a bang.
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: cramx3 on November 09, 2021, 08:18:11 AM
Damn. I just stumbled upon Trooper's second to last post in the heights thread. Super eery :(

wow, that is eery
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: Spiritus on November 12, 2021, 08:38:38 PM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.

You must be new here

Not really, mostly lurker, and refugee from portnoys site since 2002-4ish. 16-18 years . New eh
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2021, 05:04:48 AM
Page and a half of this thread about how you people spell your names. Surreal.

You must be new here

Not really, mostly lurker, and refugee from portnoys site since 2002-4ish. 16-18 years . New eh

MOSTLY?  112 posts in 16 years would be the definition of lurker.  :lol
Title: Re: Everest
Post by: TempusVox on January 16, 2022, 12:28:39 AM
I'd say we can't be sure it was him. He mentioned he survived a bunch of shit in the Middle East. That would make me think he was in the military. The obit says he was a banker, and does not mention military service. Just an observation.