To add to what bosk said - Harris also has his own 'side' band British Lion. Something I've always wondered about is what a JMX solo album would sound like. I wonder if he's got any secret songs recorded for something like that.
Do it do it do it do it! ... Do it! :biggrin:
In my Dream Band..Steve Harris is the bass player.
Count me in the "John Myung as a bass player is obviously better, but Steve Harris is Steve fucking Harris for reasons so obvious that don't need to be explained" camp :hatI was also wondering how to put it. This sums it up well. :biggrin:
I'm surprised this is as close as it is.
When I started learning bass, it was Geddy Lee and Steve Harris. Steve was all about the right hand and playing fast rhythms. Geddy never played anything as fast as, e.g., Run to the Hills, but he was all over the fretboard. He remains my favorite bass player of all time.
When JM came along, he put it all together in one package. As much as I love Steve's playing, he's somewhat one-dimensional, and JM is the superior player in every way. Of course, Harris brings things to the table that JM doesn't -- e.g., songwriting and production.
I was really into bands; I wasn’t necessarily focused on the bass players. I think the most important thing that brought me into music was listening to those bands and just kind of identifying with them, with their sounds and stylistically. I just thought it was the coolest thing ever! So it was really just whoever was playing bass in the band that became my focus. I used to love it. I couldn’t wait to come home from school and play along with Black Sabbath records, Who records, Iron Maiden records, Rush records. It just became a thing to do.
If I had never SEEN JM perform, I would have no idea, honestly. I think DT's mixes have more or less hidden him big time. His bass really doesn't stand out. I mean, to cite the beginning of As I Am is case in point. It shows how little his stand alone moments are.
I mean, to cite the beginning of As I Am is case in point. It shows how little his stand alone moments are.
I mean, to cite the beginning of As I Am is case in point. It shows how little his stand alone moments are.
??? I don't understand what you mean. That is a HUGE standalone moment. And there were plenty of others cited as well. What do you mean?
Which bassist do you favor and why?
I mean, to cite the beginning of As I Am is case in point. It shows how little his stand alone moments are.
??? I don't understand what you mean. That is a HUGE standalone moment. And there were plenty of others cited as well. What do you mean?
What I mean is that I just don't find it all that impressive. Maybe it technically is. Stand alone..sure. Stand out? No, not really. Not to me. Plus it's the signal that one of their most boring songs is about to start.
So..."AWESOME solo spot" means a solo spot that you subjectively like, then, right? :lol
So..."AWESOME solo spot" means a solo spot that you subjectively like, then, right? :lol
:facepalm:
It's not that I don't like it. It just doesn't strike me as all that impressive. That's all.
It's a ME problem apparently. :lol
there's something to be said about the fact that there are probably three or four bass lines by both Geddy and Steve that laymen hum or sing, and I'm not sure I can name one from JMX. That's not a slight by any means (it's also a function of the bands and the type of music each plays), but it's a variable, at least for me. I'll often find myself humming that bass part in the bridge-ish section of Number Of The Beast.
If I had never SEEN JM perform, I would have no idea, honestly. I think DT's mixes have more or less hidden him big time. His bass really doesn't stand out. I mean, to cite the beginning of As I Am is case in point. It shows how little his stand alone moments are.
When have you ever heard distorted harmonics on base to start a song before?
That alone makes it stand out.
Were both Lebanese. Tim you knew that right? :lol
If I had never SEEN JM perform, I would have no idea, honestly. I think DT's mixes have more or less hidden him big time. His bass really doesn't stand out. I mean, to cite the beginning of As I Am is case in point. It shows how little his stand alone moments are.
When have you ever heard distorted harmonics on base to start a song before?
That alone makes it stand out.
When have you ever heard distorted harmonics on base to start a song before?
That alone makes it stand out.
The Fish by the magnificent Chris Squire?
Not harmonics, but distorted bass: Die You Bastard by Motorhead (or Back At The Funny Farm off the same album, TOP NOTCH!)
When have you ever heard distorted harmonics on base to start a song before?
That alone makes it stand out.
The Fish by the magnificent Chris Squire?
Not harmonics, but distorted bass: Die You Bastard by Motorhead (or Back At The Funny Farm off the same album, TOP NOTCH!)
Definitely on The Fish. I forgot about that one. Motorhead. That's a big pass for me though I have a funny story about seeing them live.
Cool. What band?
You leave Natalie Portman out of this.
Cool. What band?
If this was a response to my comment that I used distorted harmonics on bass to start a song back in 90/91, I was being quite literal when I said that maybe a dozen people ever heard it. We were a local Southern Cal band that never released anything, and I'm not sure the song in question ever got played at a live show. Nonetheless, the band was called Horizons End, and the song was called "Sacrificial Suicide." It wasn't the same thing that JM does on "As I Am" (which are "true" harmonics). I fretted notes and chords with my left hand and played tapped harmonics with my right hand, using chorus and distortion effects.
Point is, it's still not exactly a commonplace technique.
Stylistically, Harris wins hands down. When you hear him play you know it's him. I like Myung's style more but Harris defiantly carved his niche better.
Cool. What band?
If this was a response to my comment that I used distorted harmonics on bass to start a song back in 90/91, I was being quite literal when I said that maybe a dozen people ever heard it. We were a local Southern Cal band that never released anything, and I'm not sure the song in question ever got played at a live show. Nonetheless, the band was called Horizons End, and the song was called "Sacrificial Suicide." It wasn't the same thing that JM does on "As I Am" (which are "true" harmonics). I fretted notes and chords with my left hand and played tapped harmonics with my right hand, using chorus and distortion effects.
Ah, I never heard it until Myung except Squire (Thanks to Stads for jogging my memory). I wanted to check out some music.
Stylistically, Harris wins hands down. When you hear him play you know it's him. I like Myung's style more but Harris defiantly carved his niche better.
Granted, I'm a relatively late fan when it comes to Maiden, but I wouldn't really agree with that. There are some types of things that, if I heard them in isolation, I might say "Oh, that sounds like something Harris would play." But I wouldn't necessarily say, "Oh, that sounds like Steve Harris." I can't say he has a distinctive style. There are just some things about his style that he tends to default to VERY often, so when one hears a bass doing those things, the mind tends to go there.
I agree that Harris's playing is extremely recognizable, but I think it's mostly because (1) Maiden songs are written, recorded and mixed to make the bass stand out; and (2) he plays in the same pocket he's played in for nearly 40 years. JM's playing, on the other hand, is way more diverse. It's a little like comparing JP to Angus Young.
I agree that Harris's playing is extremely recognizable, but I think it's mostly because (1) Maiden songs are written, recorded and mixed to make the bass stand out; and (2) he plays in the same pocket he's played in for nearly 40 years. JM's playing, on the other hand, is way more diverse. It's a little like comparing JP to Angus Young.
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Tim's favorite band is Iron Maiden. It's tongue and cheek.
That's TAC's real name.
We are homies. :lol
We've met up at DT and Maiden shows.
I agree that Harris's playing is extremely recognizable, but I think it's mostly because (1) Maiden songs are written, recorded and mixed to make the bass stand out; and (2) he plays in the same pocket he's played in for nearly 40 years. JM's playing, on the other hand, is way more diverse. It's a little like comparing JP to Angus Young.
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I think he's making a stylistic comparison rather than a straight up technical mastery comparison.
Agreed. And that isn't a knock. They are both very skilled players. But they have an expected go-to bag of tricks that they go to.
That's TAC's real name.
We are homies. :lol
We've met up at DT and Maiden shows.
For sure. Steve and Angus are, stylistically, close to one-trick ponies, whereas JP and JM play with greater diversity.
For sure. Steve and Angus are, stylistically, close to one-trick ponies, whereas JP and JM play with greater diversity.
How on earth is Steve Harris a one trick pony?
For sure. Steve and Angus are, stylistically, close to one-trick ponies, whereas JP and JM play with greater diversity.
How on earth is Steve Harris a one trick pony?
"I-vi-vii or I-vii-vi chord progressions with either the gallop or triplet rhythm" describes 95% of Maiden's output written by Harris.
Please keep in mind that I love Maiden. Probably a top 5 band for me, and Harris was one of my primary influences when I learned to play bass.