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Title: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: lovethedrake on March 03, 2019, 08:12:26 PM
JP... if you are reading this, you are a guitar god.   The new album is great, I just have one request....

Please make the outro of At Wit's end a huge long jam when you play it live.   It is so gorgeous on the album and it ends way too quickly!   

Of course the "don't leave me now" outro is amazing, but I'm talking about the final outro when the music fades back in.... I hope that was planted there to say "wait until you guys hear this live"

That's all  :P ;)
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: SuperTaco on March 03, 2019, 08:16:06 PM
The part after it fades back in... I did not expect it to move me the way it did. It is an incredible piece of music on its own. To be the end of such an amazing song... This one is going to go down as one of their best.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Architeuthis on March 03, 2019, 09:10:30 PM
It has a bit of Journey (Neal Schon) type feel with Petrucci glitter to really make it shine!   I love the fade-in after the song is over.  I can tell the acoustics in that barn sound awesome!
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Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on March 03, 2019, 09:13:51 PM
I imagine this outro is what heaven sounds like...
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Lax on March 03, 2019, 11:29:54 PM
What if the fade out was about making us shouting "don't leave me now" to the band and the solo ? I mean seriously :)
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: erwinrafael on March 04, 2019, 12:25:21 AM
Why can't we just finally have that AWE discussion thread?  :lol
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 04, 2019, 01:27:41 AM
The outro is my favorite part of the whole album. Elegant in its simplicity and beautiful.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Dreamer on March 04, 2019, 01:35:55 AM
I agree, if only it lasted longer!
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Thoughtspart3 on March 04, 2019, 08:02:56 PM
It would have been cool to have a bonus track of them playing in barn like in the fade in at the end.  Love that vibe and the sound is very organic and natural.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: MirrorMask on March 05, 2019, 01:14:15 AM
It would have been cool to have a bonus track of them playing in barn like in the fade in at the end.  Love that vibe and the sound is very organic and natural.

I agree!

Also, as it has been mentioned in the main d/t thread, it's a bit awkard to have the long fade out, silence, and then the fade in. It should have been merged, and the "off the floor" section should have started when the main part of the song was ending.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: DoctorAction on March 05, 2019, 10:27:42 AM
It would have been cool to have a bonus track of them playing in barn like in the fade in at the end.  Love that vibe and the sound is very organic and natural.

Agreed. I've often said i want to hear an "under-produced" DT album. Love the approach on D/T and would love them to take it further.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: genome on March 05, 2019, 11:16:42 AM
From a geeky perspective I love how they keep the same chord progression going but start shifting the root notes around about halfway through the solo.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: vtgrad on March 05, 2019, 11:59:27 AM
This one was instantaneous classic for me (AWE the full song I mean)... but the outro is like a handful on purpose!  What a cap to an amazing song, and absolutely out of nowhere honestly!
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Another_Won on March 05, 2019, 12:13:22 PM
. . . . and here is the track by track video for this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwic4Qc_o4M
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: bosk1 on March 05, 2019, 12:31:10 PM
Nice!  There's so much out there now in terms of interviews, etc. that it didn't really bring any new info, but still a great video.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: EPIC Outro on March 05, 2019, 01:52:44 PM

The Easter egg at the end of Illumination Theory never really worked for me personally... But the one in At Wits End? It's beautiful, fits so well, and is just a lovely, unique moment with which to end the song.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2019, 01:55:00 PM
One of DT's and JP's finest moments, easily.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Dream Team on March 05, 2019, 02:46:39 PM
The outro is great, but I just realized listening on the way home that I would have much preferred an emotive, depressing keyboard solo to the one we got at around the 3:50 mark. Too much Jordan, not enough sadness.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: PetFish on March 05, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
. . . . and here is the track by track video for this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwic4Qc_o4M

Man, it's amazing how uncomfortable JM looks when doing interviews... and then he speaks and it gets even worse.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: RoeDent on March 06, 2019, 06:11:17 AM
. . . . and here is the track by track video for this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwic4Qc_o4M

Man, it's amazing how uncomfortable JM looks when doing interviews... and then he speaks and it gets even worse.

In that case we absolutely must give John Myung credit for the fact he's doing so many of these interviews for this album promo cycle. I'm assuming he doesn't find it easy, considering how little he's done of it in the past.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Another_Won on March 06, 2019, 07:37:37 AM
. . . . and here is the track by track video for this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwic4Qc_o4M

Man, it's amazing how uncomfortable JM looks when doing interviews... and then he speaks and it gets even worse.

In that case we absolutely must give John Myung credit for the fact he's doing so many of these interviews for this album promo cycle. I'm assuming he doesn't find it easy, considering how little he's done of it in the past.

Maybe he just "looks" uncomfortable?  I know people have thought I looked uncomfortable is a situation where I wasn't at all.  Could be just a characteristic of someone with a more introverted personality . . . . or not  :dunno:

As far as content, I must have missed the previous explanation of the lyrics because that seemed new to me.  I'll have to go back and read them again.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: vtgrad on March 06, 2019, 11:30:03 AM
. . . . and here is the track by track video for this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwic4Qc_o4M

Man, it's amazing how uncomfortable JM looks when doing interviews... and then he speaks and it gets even worse.

In that case we absolutely must give John Myung credit for the fact he's doing so many of these interviews for this album promo cycle. I'm assuming he doesn't find it easy, considering how little he's done of it in the past.

I'll agree with that and add to it... the first time my wife and I met DT (Jones Beach 2007) JP was very gracious (as always) MP was actually reserved (I thought that was odd) and JM actually hugged my wife and I both!  My wife told him that he was her favorite and he stood up and hugged us both!  I think that Another_Won probably covers it quite well... he may seem uncomfortable to us extroverts, but I'd bet that he's just fine during these interviews.  This is just the way he handles them.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: Dublagent66 on March 06, 2019, 02:43:33 PM

The Easter egg at the end of Illumination Theory never really worked for me personally... But the one in At Wits End? It's beautiful, fits so well, and is just a lovely, unique moment with which to end the song.

Totally agree.  Brings a whole new meaning to it.

From a geeky perspective I love how they keep the same chord progression going but start shifting the root notes around about halfway through the solo.

Love how they do that.  Provides so much more depth and dimension.
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Post by: Samsara on March 06, 2019, 03:01:29 PM

The Easter egg at the end of Illumination Theory never really worked for me personally... But the one in At Wits End? It's beautiful, fits so well, and is just a lovely, unique moment with which to end the song.

Totally agree.  Brings a whole new meaning to it.

From a geeky perspective I love how they keep the same chord progression going but start shifting the root notes around about halfway through the solo.

Love how they do that.  Provides so much more depth and dimension.

Amen to all of that. At Wit's End is my favorite Dream Theater song since...man...probably Trial of Tears. MAYBE Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu.
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: spw5150 on March 06, 2019, 10:21:50 PM
The piano line at the 8:54 mark gets me everytime.  So short and simple but conveys so much emotion.  I wish this lasted longer
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Post by: LCArenas on March 06, 2019, 10:30:51 PM
The whole part of JLB singing 'Don't Leave me Now' while JP guitar soars over the chords really struck me. So simple yet so absurdly sentimental and moving given how the rest of the song got to that moment. The whole sum of both melancholy and hope in it! It's one of those moments when you're reminded how music conveys feelings that words alone can't describe.

It's the best part of the album and one of the best moments in DT's history. I'm not even fucking exaggerating
Title: Re: At Wit's End - Outro
Post by: NunoTenniscourt on March 06, 2019, 11:38:46 PM
From a geeky perspective I love how they keep the same chord progression going but start shifting the root notes around about halfway through the solo.

Yes, I noticed this the first time I went to try and play it on keys. The C eventually becomes C/G and the G/B becomes G/D.

They really knocked it out of the park with this song, and to do it so late in their career is just mindblowing.