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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: WildRanger on February 28, 2019, 09:26:25 AM
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Take your pick.
And rank them all, if you want.
I didn't include "Holy Wars" in the poll, because Megadeth is not widely beloved on this board.
My order of preference:
1) War Pigs
2) Hallowed be thy Name
3) Victim of Changes (live Unleashed version)
4) Master of Puppets
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holy wars is better than any of these but anyways iron maiden is the only one of these here i really care for
i dunno the judas priest song at all though lol
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i dunno the judas priest song at all though lol
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J9zyviTTmQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J9zyviTTmQ)
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I didn't include "Holy Wars" in the poll, because Megadeth is not widely beloved on this board.
No Megadeth song is anywhere close to the level of the four songs listed.
1. Master
2. Hallowed
3. War Pigs
4. Victim
The margins between the songs are REALLY small.
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FYI megadeth has consistently been a terrible band with an awful vocalist and I still think holy wars rules it's just that far ahead of the rest here
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Master by a large margin.
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Hallowed Be Thy Name
Master Of Puppets
War Pigs
Victim Of Changes
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Master by a large margin.
Which song woud a guy on your avatar choose? What you think?
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Good God, what a poll.
Hallowed, although I was seriously tempted to go with Master.
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This is a hard one. I'd go:
War Pigs > Hallowed >> Master > Victim
Should be noted that the margins between each are still pretty small.
FYI megadeth has consistently been a terrible band with an awful vocalist and I still think holy wars rules it's just that far ahead of the rest here
Good song, but not even sure it's the best track on RIP to be honest with you.
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War Pigs by far
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Master by a large margin.
Which song woud a guy on your avatar choose? What you think?
What song would JP choose? I have no clue... I'm not JP... :lol
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I don't know the Maiden song off the top of my head, but I am sure I heard it at some point and deemed it forgettable.
Victim of Changes gets the nod by just a hair over the other two, but only if we are talking about the live version.
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Between Master and Hallowed. Master got the nod.
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Hallowed since it's my favorite song from my favorite band.
I would however say War Pigs and Master are much more iconic songs. I don't think the average metal fan knows Hallowed since it wasn't a hit, although it's definitely a "signature song" where as most metal fans will know Master of Puppets and War Pigs.
Anyway, I don't know the Judas Priest song so there's that too (I never really got into them)
If I had to rank them:
Hallowed
Master
War Pigs
Victim
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Master of Puppets. Not even close.
Victims is good, but not that great. War Pigs is fine. Hallowed is a cool fun silly song, but none of them top Master.
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Victim of Changes is a terrible song, War Pigs isn't even the best Sabbath hit, Master of Puppets is damn good, and Hallowed Be Thy Name is the king here without a doubt. Best Maiden song.
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#1 and #2 are REALLY hard to rank. I went with Hallowed, but it is really close. My answer might be different tomorrow. War Pigs is great (forum old-timers might know about my affinity for that song. :lol ). I hadn't heard Victim of Changes before clicking on Wild Ranger's link above. The riff is pretty nice, but the song overall doesn't do much for me, and I switched it off about halfway through. But I don't really like Priest anyway, so not surprising.
Anyway, recap of my ranking:
1. Hallowed
2. Puppets
3. War Pigs
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4. Victim of Changes
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#1 and #2 are REALLY hard to rank. I went with Hallowed, but it is really close. My answer might be different tomorrow. War Pigs is great (forum old-timers might know about my affinity for that song. :lol ). I hadn't heard Victim of Changes before clicking on Wild Ranger's link above. The riff is pretty nice, but the song overall doesn't do much for me, and I switched it off about halfway through. But I don't really like Priest anyway, so not surprising.
Anyway, recap of my ranking:
1. Hallowed
2. Puppets
3. War Pigs
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4. Victim of Changes
(https://i.imgur.com/PbAi2Bo.gif)
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Hey thats my rankings too, I want to be friends
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I have to choose Maiden, everytime.
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Hey thats my rankings too, I want to be friends
All right. But you have to call me Dragon.
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wtf kind of bs is that, nvmd :lol
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#1 and #2 are REALLY hard to rank. I went with Hallowed, but it is really close. My answer might be different tomorrow. War Pigs is great (forum old-timers might know about my affinity for that song. :lol ). I hadn't heard Victim of Changes before clicking on Wild Ranger's link above. The riff is pretty nice, but the song overall doesn't do much for me, and I switched it off about halfway through. But I don't really like Priest anyway, so not surprising.
Anyway, recap of my ranking:
1. Hallowed
2. Puppets
3. War Pigs
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4. Victim of Changes
(https://i.imgur.com/PbAi2Bo.gif)
No. We've been best friends. I just forgot to tell you.
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:hug:
Cram: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM6SeiqE-IM
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:hug:
Cram: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM6SeiqE-IM
:lol didn't get that reference since I totally forgot that scene, such a good movie
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War Pigs/MAster of Puppets
Hallowed
Victim
Out of all those bands I love Priest the most overall but they really didn't kick in properly for me until British Steel. All great songs though.
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Just listened to Victim again, to refresh my memory.
Yea, that is NOT anywhere near those other songs.
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I would however say War Pigs and Master are much more iconic songs. I don't think the average metal fan knows Hallowed since it wasn't a hit, although it's definitely a "signature song" where as most metal fans will know Master of Puppets and War Pigs.
Anyway, I don't know the Judas Priest song so there's that too (I never really got into them)
Interesting. I would think 90%+ of "metal fans" would be familiar with Hallowed.
Victim is surely the least known song on the list, and Master is probably the most well known (both among "metal fans" and probably a healthy percentage of non-"metal fans" have at least heard of it). I would think War Pigs and Hallowed are about on the same level in terms of familiarity.
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Master of Puppets
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Just listened to Victim again, to refresh my memory.
Yea, that is NOT anywhere near those other songs.
More like, those others songs are not near it. :P
Okay, Master and War Pigs are both almost as good...almost.
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Just listened to Victim again, to refresh my memory.
Yea, that is NOT anywhere near those other songs.
More like, those others songs are not near it. :P
Agreed.
They're far, far above it.
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I would however say War Pigs and Master are much more iconic songs. I don't think the average metal fan knows Hallowed since it wasn't a hit, although it's definitely a "signature song" where as most metal fans will know Master of Puppets and War Pigs.
Anyway, I don't know the Judas Priest song so there's that too (I never really got into them)
Interesting. I would think 90%+ of "metal fans" would be familiar with Hallowed.
Victim is surely the least known song on the list, and Master is probably the most well known (both among "metal fans" and probably a healthy percentage of non-"metal fans" have at least heard of it). I would think War Pigs and Hallowed are about on the same level in terms of familiarity.
Victim is undoubtedly one of the most popular Judas Priest songs. And that song is featured on Sad Wings of Destiny and Unleashed in the East, two landmark records by Priest.
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Master
Hallowed
War pigs
That judas priest song I've never heard
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I would however say War Pigs and Master are much more iconic songs. I don't think the average metal fan knows Hallowed since it wasn't a hit, although it's definitely a "signature song" where as most metal fans will know Master of Puppets and War Pigs.
Anyway, I don't know the Judas Priest song so there's that too (I never really got into them)
Interesting. I would think 90%+ of "metal fans" would be familiar with Hallowed.
Victim is surely the least known song on the list, and Master is probably the most well known (both among "metal fans" and probably a healthy percentage of non-"metal fans" have at least heard of it). I would think War Pigs and Hallowed are about on the same level in terms of familiarity.
Victim is undoubtedly one of the most popular Judas Priest songs. And that song is featured on Sad Wings of Destiny and Unleashed in the East, two landmark records by Priest.
All true, but none of that contradicts what I wrote. At least 2-3 of the people who have commented in this thread aren't familiar with Victim, and if you're not a Priest fan, both Sad Wings and Unleashed are pretty obscure albums. Heck, I've been a Priest fan for 35+ years and I've never actually owned Sad Wings.
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Battery or Disposable might have changed this for me , but I went
Hallowed
Victim
Master
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...and if you're not a Priest fan, both Sad Wings and Unleashed are pretty obscure albums.
Yup. Never heard them. Based on what I've heard of Priest, I don't intend to either.
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I’ve never heard Victims of Changes so I don’t rank it.
1: Master of Puppets
2: Hallowed Be Thy Name
3: War Pigs
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That’s crazy to me that so many metal fans aren’t familiar with iconic Priest albums and songs.
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Pigs
Master
Name
Victim (never listened to it until now)
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That’s crazy to me that so many metal fans aren’t familiar with iconic Priest albums and songs.
Me too.
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Victims, to me, feels like Rob wanted to a high octane metal song before they really existed, and the band just did a very boring pre-metal song behind him.
Instrumentally, it just has no energy. It's too slow, the drums are played like he's falling alseep, the guitarists sound like they need more lessons before they can play the parts. Maybe it sounds better live these days. I don't know.
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Victims, to me, feels like Rob wanted to a high octane metal song before they really existed, and the band just did a very boring pre-metal song behind him.
Instrumentally, it just has no energy. It's too slow, the drums are played like he's falling alseep, the guitarists sound like they need more lessons before they can play the parts. Maybe it sounds better live these days. I don't know.
I assume you are talking about the studio version, yes?
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Victims, to me, feels like Rob wanted to a high octane metal song before they really existed, and the band just did a very boring pre-metal song behind him.
Instrumentally, it just has no energy. It's too slow, the drums are played like he's falling asleep, the guitarists sound like they need more lessons before they can play the parts. Maybe it sounds better live these days. I don't know.
I assume you are talking about the studio version, yes?
Correct. Is there another version I should be checking out? I'm not a giant Priest fan, so I honestly don't know. I'll go look up a live version.
Nonetheless, in polls like this, I compare studio versions.
Edit: Listened to some live versions. Much much better. Still not as good as Master or Hallowed. But I'd move it to 3rd.
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Correct. Is there another version I should be checking out? I'm not a giant Priest fan, so I honestly don't know. I'll go look up a live version.
Nonetheless, in polls like this, I compare studio versions.
Understandable. The live version from Unleashed in the East is considered the definitive version of it. The studio version isn't bad, but if that was the only version out there, I'd probably never listen to it. Meanwhile, I consider the live version a top 5 Priest tune. Massive difference.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J9zyviTTmQ
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That entire Unleashed In The East album is definitely a defining piece of rock / metal history. I am not a huge Priest fan but I do enjoy the early pre - Defenders stuff , they were just a hippie band and not metal gods.
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Master of Puppets received the most votes? Never understood all the love for that song. And Victim of Changes has only 1 vote?
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I too would've preferred Holy Wars over three of the four songs here. I also don't really know that Priest song. I know I've heard it but couldn't tell you how it goes.
I think this proves that Megadeth are widely beloved on this board but unfortunately Judas Priest aren't :lol
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I too would've preferred Holy Wars over three of the four songs here. I also don't really know that Priest song. I know I've heard it but couldn't tell you how it goes.
I think this proves that Megadeth are widely beloved on this board but unfortunately Judas Priest aren't :lol
I think Victim of Changes is among Judas Priest's five fan favorites.
It's probably their most signature song of the 70's catalogue. But I suppose Painkiller is their most popular and beloved song in general, by casual Judas Priest fans and metalheads.
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Hallowed
Victim
War Pigs
Master
I love them all though
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I think Victim of Changes is among Judas Priest's five fan favorites.
Why would you think that?
Are you a member of a Judas Priest message board that has conducted polls?
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Has to be Master of Puppets for me.
Master is arguably THE best metal album of all time ?
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Obviously, I went with Hallowed Be Thy Name. I'm a hige Maiden fan, and Hallowed is one of my Top 5 Favorite songs all time.
After that..
Master Of Puppets
War Pigs
Victim Of Changes
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Has to be Master of Puppets for me.
Master is arguably THE best metal album of all time ?
Maybe the most popular and celebrated, but not the best.
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And Victim of Changes has only 1 vote?
Not any more. Definitely hard to choose, but I went with Victim because, IMO, it's such an epic song.
If I were to rank them, it would be:
Victim
Hallowed
Master
War Pigs
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I think I have to preface this by saying I just don't see what others see in Master Of Puppets. Very good song, not in the same league (for me) as Hallowed or War Pigs.
For me:
1. Hallowed Be Thy Name
2. War Pigs
3. Victim Of Changes
4. Master Of Puppets
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I think I have to preface this by saying I just don't see what others see in Master Of Puppets.
Replace "Master of Puppets" with "Hallowed Be Thy Name" and I am in agreement.
I just listened to it as a refresher and still don't get how that song is so revered. The riffage is nice and Dickinson's vocals are fine enough, but it's been over for five minutes and I don't remember much else about it, which brings me to the issue I have with most Iron Maiden songs: lack of good, memorable melodies. Note that I am not saying there aren't melodies in their songs; I am just saying that most of them aren't memorable. And there are tons of metal songs with strong melodies that get stuck in your head and suck you in and make you want to listen again. It's just too bad that Iron Maiden has so few songs like that for me.
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Lol the main reason why Iron Maiden is one of my favorite bands is because I think they have possibly the most memorable melodies in all of metal. :lol
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Yeah, I was going to say.
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Yeah, Maiden frequently churned out some of metal's most memorable hooks and melodies in their heyday. Different strokes I guess.
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I've not heard much Maiden but the stuff i've heard is really not my cup of tea. Too samey and nothing grabbed me.
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I love that loping melody (it's played on guitar) in between the verses. I also love that vocal "the sands of time, for me... are running low..............."
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Personally there are several Priest songs that I would pick to represent them in this poll. In the end it probably wouldn't matter. War Pigs is timeless genius. As impactful today as the first time I heard it.
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Puppets and Hallowed are 2 of my favourite 'metal' songs of all time. The other 2 in the poll I'd never heard, but I've just listened to them both (and they're both very good, thank you WildRanger for bringing my attention to them).
Ranking:
1. Master of Puppets (I go back and forth between this and Blackened as the greatest metal song I've ever heard)
2. Hallowed
3. Victim of Changes
4. War Pigs
But like I said, all good tunes. I've never heard a Black Sabbath album and from Priest I own only British Steel (I'm just not much of a metal fan). Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus? Because I enjoyed it less than everything on British Steel.
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1. Master of Puppets
2. War Pigs
3 & 4. The other two
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I will echo the sentiment that Holy Wars is better than any song on this list.
Can’t decide if I think it’s the greatest metal song of all time, but I would feel comfortable saying that it’s the greatest thrash metal song of all time. And I wouldn’t even call myself a big Megadeth fan. In fact, I think RIP as an album is grossly overrated.
But for this poll...Puppets
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I voted for Hallowed, but I consider it a tie with Victim of Changes
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Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus?
The problem is sort of in the title. None of those are really their "signature" tunes. They are more "epics" or "magna opera" (yes, that's one of the plural of "magnum opus"). I would say "Victim" IS Priest's magnum opus, but not their signature tune.
To me, the "signature tune" is the song they play at a Super Bowl halftime, or for their one appearance at their Hall Of Fame induction.
The "signature" tunes for me would be:
- Maiden: The Number Of The Beast
- Black Sabbath (Ozzy): Iron Man (or, maybe, Paranoid)
- Metallica: Enter Sandman (or, maybe, Master Of Puppets)
- Priest: Breakin' The Law (or, Living After Midnight)
(I put those in order of my preference, by the way).
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Master of Puppets is the song Metallica played the most live though, far more than Enter Sandman; (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/metallica-3bd680c8.html)
As for the rest of your suggestions, I think Paranoid is more well-known than Iron Man, but this might be yet another case of US vs Europe popularity!
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Well, Master of Puppets pre-dates Enter Sandman by five years, so of course it has more live plays considering both get played at every Metallica show. I think the average person on the street is more likely to recognize Enter Sandman than Master of Puppets, though, so I agree with Stadler that it would be their signature tune (based on his specific definition).
Think of it this way: in 100 years, if Metallica is remembered by the masses (not just metal fans) for one song, Enter Sandman would likely be that song. It is their Tom Sawyer, Piano Man, Stairway to Heaven, Bohemian Rhapsody or Hotel California.
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Master of Puppets is the song Metallica played the most live though, far more than Enter Sandman; (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/metallica-3bd680c8.html)
As for the rest of your suggestions, I think Paranoid is more well-known than Iron Man, but this might be yet another case of US vs Europe popularity!
I only picked Enter Sandman because I saw Metallica on Jools Holland in 2008 (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xj3jkl); they did one new song - Cyanide - and Enter Sandman, and DESTROYED the place. I watch that show a lot, and usually, with very few exceptions (McCartney is another) the other acts - there are five or six per episode - sit patiently while one act plays. On this one, you can see they pan to the other acts and they are all standing, clapping, singing along; it was electric. Nicole Atkins (the cute girl they cut to about 45 seconds in, singing along) is about as far from Metallica as you can get, and yet she was way into it. it just strikes me as the song that transcends the hardcore fanbase.
(And I wouldn't be Stadler if I didn't point out that Metallica played about 400 shows in between releasing Master and Sandman. You minus that from Master's total, and Sandman is likely played more).
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Metallica - Master of Puppets
Black Sabbath - War Pigs
Iron Maiden - Hallowed be thy Name
Judas Priest - Victim of Changes
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The Priest version on Unleashed in the East is just so much better than the studio version. It’s almost incomparable. The studio version is just a little too slow and plodding. It’s too bad they didn’t let loose more on Rocka Rolla and Sad Wings; but I understand they were following in Sabbaths footsteps and sound. That would be why I’ve only been a casual fan of Ozzy era Sabbath; the doomy, slow, plodding sound has never really been my thing. And in regards to Metallica, since they have released TBA, I can’t imagine they have played many shows in which they haven’t played both Master and Sandman. Very few shows I would guess. So Master just had a four year start. But going back to Priest, I say for sure listen to the live version. But overall I think Maiden is the best choice here.
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Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus?
The problem is sort of in the title. None of those are really their "signature" tunes. They are more "epics" or "magna opera" (yes, that's one of the plural of "magnum opus"). I would say "Victim" IS Priest's magnum opus, but not their signature tune.
To me, the "signature tune" is the song they play at a Super Bowl halftime, or for their one appearance at their Hall Of Fame induction.
The "signature" tunes for me would be:
- Maiden: The Number Of The Beast
- Black Sabbath (Ozzy): Iron Man (or, maybe, Paranoid)
- Metallica: Enter Sandman (or, maybe, Master Of Puppets)
- Priest: Breakin' The Law (or, Living After Midnight)
(I put those in order of my preference, by the way).
Well, Metallica did play MOP (first, followed by Sandman) at its RRHOF induction, so there's no "maybe" about it. And it doesn't appear that Sabbath actually performed (other than Ozzy fronting Metallica with Iron Man and Paranoid). I agree that Victim would not be Priest's RRHOF song in the unlikely event they ever get inducted, but I don't agree that, for Maiden, TNOTB is an obvious choice over Hallowed. Those are two of the top three most played Maiden songs and I would say on relatively equal footing. That said, in the highly unlikely event that Maiden makes it, my guess would be that they'd play The Trooper and Iron Maiden.
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Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus?
The problem is sort of in the title. None of those are really their "signature" tunes. They are more "epics" or "magna opera" (yes, that's one of the plural of "magnum opus"). I would say "Victim" IS Priest's magnum opus, but not their signature tune.
To me, the "signature tune" is the song they play at a Super Bowl halftime, or for their one appearance at their Hall Of Fame induction.
The "signature" tunes for me would be:
- Maiden: The Number Of The Beast
- Black Sabbath (Ozzy): Iron Man (or, maybe, Paranoid)
- Metallica: Enter Sandman (or, maybe, Master Of Puppets)
- Priest: Breakin' The Law (or, Living After Midnight)
(I put those in order of my preference, by the way).
I see what you're saying, but what you are citing for each of those bands is their biggest "hits" which doesn't necessarily mean their signature songs. I think "signature" means something more than simply the most popular song - perhaps it's more akin to "fan favorite" or a track that stands out to the fanbase as the epitome of who the band are as a whole, as opposed to the public in general who know little to nothing about a given artist.
So for example, while Pull Me Under is DT's obvious hit and certainly is their most popular song, I wouldn't say that it is their "signature" song. But Metropolis, Learning to Live and A Change of Seasons - none of which are hits - could easily be classified as DT's signature songs.
Of course, that's not to say that a band's biggest hit couldn't also be considered their signature song - I think Tom Sawyer easily fits that bill. But that's not the case in all situations.
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I'm not really keen on the other 3 bands - but Master Of Puppets is a flawless album for me. Yes it's only eight songs but it lasts almost an hour and I don't think there is one crotchet I would change.
The only thing I would alter about it is that brittle really digital sounding guitar tone. I know it's NOT digital - but it sounds like the METAL setting on a lot of cheap Multi-FX pedals.
:)
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When it comes to the 70's Priest catalog I think their "signature" tunes are: Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death and Hell Bent for Leather.
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I see what you're saying, but what you are citing for each of those bands is their biggest "hits" which doesn't necessarily mean their signature songs. I think "signature" means something more than simply the most popular song - perhaps it's more akin to "fan favorite" or a track that stands out to the fanbase as the epitome of who the band are as a whole, as opposed to the public in general who know little to nothing about a given artist.
So for example, while Pull Me Under is DT's obvious hit and certainly is their most popular song, I wouldn't say that it is their "signature" song. But Metropolis, Learning to Live and A Change of Seasons - none of which are hits - could easily be classified as DT's signature songs.
Of course, that's not to say that a band's biggest hit couldn't also be considered their signature song - I think Tom Sawyer easily fits that bill. But that's not the case in all situations.
I agree with this.
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I see what you're saying, but what you are citing for each of those bands is their biggest "hits" which doesn't necessarily mean their signature songs. I think "signature" means something more than simply the most popular song - perhaps it's more akin to "fan favorite" or a track that stands out to the fanbase as the epitome of who the band are as a whole, as opposed to the public in general who know little to nothing about a given artist.
So for example, while Pull Me Under is DT's obvious hit and certainly is their most popular song, I wouldn't say that it is their "signature" song. But Metropolis, Learning to Live and A Change of Seasons - none of which are hits - could easily be classified as DT's signature songs.
Of course, that's not to say that a band's biggest hit couldn't also be considered their signature song - I think Tom Sawyer easily fits that bill. But that's not the case in all situations.
I think it's definitely a case by case situation, instead of being as simple as "a band's most well known/popular song is their signature song" in all cases. For example, More Than Words has kinda lingered as Extreme's most well known song, but it is too far removed from what their normal sound/style was to really be their signature song. On the flip side, Enter Sandman is pretty indicative of Metallica's sound (maybe not their 80's sound, but their overall sound when looking at the scope of their entire career) to where it is easy to argue that it is their signature song.
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When it comes to the 70's Priest catalog I think their "signature" tunes are: Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death and Hell Bent for Leather.
Good choices. But I also can’t imagine being a metal fan and not hearing Tyrant, Ripper, Dreamer Deceiver, Sinner, Dissident Aggressor, Exciter, and Saints in Hell.
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Master
Hallowed
War Pigs
Victim of Changes
The first 3 songs are close in quality and epic-ness.
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Master first by a long margin, victim and hallowed interchangeable between second and third and War Pigs dead last
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When it comes to the 70's Priest catalog I think their "signature" tunes are: Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death and Hell Bent for Leather.
Good choices. But I also can’t imagine being a metal fan and not hearing Tyrant, Ripper, Dreamer Deceiver, Sinner, Dissident Aggressor, Exciter, and Saints in Hell.
Well, then I'm not a metal fan :)
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Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus?
The problem is sort of in the title. None of those are really their "signature" tunes. They are more "epics" or "magna opera" (yes, that's one of the plural of "magnum opus"). I would say "Victim" IS Priest's magnum opus, but not their signature tune.
To me, the "signature tune" is the song they play at a Super Bowl halftime, or for their one appearance at their Hall Of Fame induction.
The "signature" tunes for me would be:
- Maiden: The Number Of The Beast
- Black Sabbath (Ozzy): Iron Man (or, maybe, Paranoid)
- Metallica: Enter Sandman (or, maybe, Master Of Puppets)
- Priest: Breakin' The Law (or, Living After Midnight)
(I put those in order of my preference, by the way).
I see what you're saying, but what you are citing for each of those bands is their biggest "hits" which doesn't necessarily mean their signature songs. I think "signature" means something more than simply the most popular song - perhaps it's more akin to "fan favorite" or a track that stands out to the fanbase as the epitome of who the band are as a whole, as opposed to the public in general who know little to nothing about a given artist.
So for example, while Pull Me Under is DT's obvious hit and certainly is their most popular song, I wouldn't say that it is their "signature" song. But Metropolis, Learning to Live and A Change of Seasons - none of which are hits - could easily be classified as DT's signature songs.
Of course, that's not to say that a band's biggest hit couldn't also be considered their signature song - I think Tom Sawyer easily fits that bill. But that's not the case in all situations.
No, I get you, bud. I'm not putting one definition down in concrete; that's why I used the HOF example, imperfect such that it is. I don't mean "the biggest hit". Kiss's biggest hit is probably "Beth", but the signature song is either Rock And Roll All Nite or Detroit Rock City. Deep Purple's biggest hit was actually Black Night, not Smoke On The Water, but we KNOW what Deep Purple's signature tune is. Yes and Genesis too (biggest hits, at least in the US: Owner Of A Lonely Heart and Invisible Touch). I'm not sure what Genesis' "signature tune" is (Turn It On Again?) but Yes' is Roundabout.
If you have a different signature tune, that's fine, I'm not saying it's undebatable. I just know that I'm not sure the four tunes given in the OP qualify.
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This thread prompted me to spin Paranoid yesterday while writing. What an album. Transcendent. Timeless.
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When it comes to the 70's Priest catalog I think their "signature" tunes are: Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death and Hell Bent for Leather.
Good choices. But I also can’t imagine being a metal fan and not hearing Tyrant, Ripper, Dreamer Deceiver, Sinner, Dissident Aggressor, Exciter, and Saints in Hell.
Well, then I'm not a metal fan :)
Me neither!
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Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus?
The problem is sort of in the title. None of those are really their "signature" tunes. They are more "epics" or "magna opera" (yes, that's one of the plural of "magnum opus"). I would say "Victim" IS Priest's magnum opus, but not their signature tune.
To me, the "signature tune" is the song they play at a Super Bowl halftime, or for their one appearance at their Hall Of Fame induction.
The "signature" tunes for me would be:
- Priest: Breakin' The Law (or, Living After Midnight)
(I put those in order of my preference, by the way).
I agree that those are two very good candidates for signature song from Judas Priest but holy mother of the flying spaghetti monster do they have VASTLY superior songs numbering in the dozens, literally. Of course none of those other songs are well-known radio hits with the exception of perhaps "You've Got Another Thing Coming"
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Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus?
The problem is sort of in the title. None of those are really their "signature" tunes. They are more "epics" or "magna opera" (yes, that's one of the plural of "magnum opus"). I would say "Victim" IS Priest's magnum opus, but not their signature tune.
To me, the "signature tune" is the song they play at a Super Bowl halftime, or for their one appearance at their Hall Of Fame induction.
The "signature" tunes for me would be:
- Priest: Breakin' The Law (or, Living After Midnight)
(I put those in order of my preference, by the way).
I agree that those are two very good candidates for signature song from Judas Priest but holy mother of the flying spaghetti monster do they have VASTLY superior songs numbering in the dozens, literally. Of course none of those other songs are well-known radio hits with the exception of perhaps "You've Got Another Thing Coming"
No QUESTION. It was actually hard to come up with the signature tune since so often I actively DO NOT LIKE a band's signature song. I'm not a huge fan of British Steel to begin with, but if I was to list the tracks in order, neither song is in the top half. I actually like Point Of Entry more than British Steel.
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When it comes to the 70's Priest catalog I think their "signature" tunes are: Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death and Hell Bent for Leather.
Good choices. But I also can’t imagine being a metal fan and not hearing Tyrant, Ripper, Dreamer Deceiver, Sinner, Dissident Aggressor, Exciter, and Saints in Hell.
Well, then I'm not a metal fan :)
Me neither!
It's an odd comment: "not hearing" those tunes? The songs listed that are on Unleashed in the East are classics, but Dreamer Deceiver, Dissident Aggressor and Saints in Hell are serious deep cuts.
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When it comes to the 70's Priest catalog I think their "signature" tunes are: Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death and Hell Bent for Leather.
Good choices. But I also can’t imagine being a metal fan and not hearing Tyrant, Ripper, Dreamer Deceiver, Sinner, Dissident Aggressor, Exciter, and Saints in Hell.
Well, then I'm not a metal fan :)
Me neither!
I know Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest don't appeal to you, but you dig Metallica. I suppose you're not a Megadeth fan either? Those bands are five biggest names in metal.
1/5. So you're not a metal fan.
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When it comes to the 70's Priest catalog I think their "signature" tunes are: Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death and Hell Bent for Leather.
Good choices. But I also can’t imagine being a metal fan and not hearing Tyrant, Ripper, Dreamer Deceiver, Sinner, Dissident Aggressor, Exciter, and Saints in Hell.
Well, then I'm not a metal fan :)
Me neither!
I know Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest don't appeal to you, but you dig Metallica. I suppose you're not a Megadeth fan either? Those bands are five biggest names in metal.
1/5. So you're not a metal fan.
Well, they are definitely the 5 oldest big names in metal.
I like Tool, Opeth, Jinjer, Between the Buried and Me, Devin Townsend, and Isis, to name a few. So, I guess I am a metal fan after all.
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I have no idea what makes a "metal fan" or not; I consider myself a "metal fan", but there's a lot of metal I don't like and even more that I've not heard.
Having said that, I encourage anyone who hasn't to check out Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver that they do so. One of Rob's best performances (there's also a live version from, I think, The Old Grey Whistle Test, that's worth checking out on YooToob).