DreamTheaterForums.org Dream Theater Fan Site

General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 07:57:31 PM

Title: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 07:57:31 PM
So, when driving to work, I really don't listen to a ton of music. I actually listen to sports talk radio quite a bit. But when my ears need a break from it, I usually pull up a music radio station to see what's playing.

I tune into 94 WHJY in Providence. I have been listening to HJY since 1981, and it is where I learned of so many bands that I love today.

So every now and then when I flip over, it'll be a song that I've heard a million times, like Led Zeppelin, and sometimes it stops me in my tracks. Like I can totally remember listening to these songs as a wide eyed kid.

This happened to me yesterday and I thought about making a thread about it. Then it happened again today.

So my plan is every other day or so, or as needed, I thought I'd post what I've heard and how I felt about it. Kind of like Kev's Song Of The Day Threads.

Feel free to comment, give your own accounts, or whatever...



Yesterday these 2 songs transported me back in time:

AC/DC-Back In Black

It's criminal how little I listen to this album, considering its influence on a 12 y/o TAC. But the title track stands out above all. I love its arrangement. Guitar solo, additional breakdown, and the amazing outro. Angus Young is amazing. To me, it's his finest work.

If I had one vote for the Greatest Hard Rock song of all time, my vote goes to Back In Black.


Pearl Jam-Jeremy

I was already out of college when Pearl Jam's debut album came out. I had a copy of Ten, and while I thought it was OK, on the whole, Pearl Jam was a just miss for me. Still, Pearl Jam might just be the band I respect the most that I'm not into. They do have a number of songs I like, but at my core, I'm a metal guy.

But I have always loved Jeremy. Musically I love the way it builds and that last minute or so is incredible. Eddie Vedder is just ridiculous on this. His performance is amazing.
Now I'm not sure who Jeremy is, but he seems to be a kid with issues. I found it quite moving when it came out. But now as a parent , it hits me even harder. Jeremy is an amazing song.

...and today..

Pink Floyd-Hey You

I am only a casual fan of Pink Floyd. I love Wish You Were Here and Animals. I do not care for The Wall, but Hey You always stops me in my tracks. This song really pulls me in. It is classic Pink Floyd, and is much more immediate, even though it's mellow. I don't have to wade through endless hypnotic music. It has a great understated solo by Gilmour, and Waters reaching the climax with "Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all". Incredible.

Tesla-Modern Day Cowboy

On a Sunday night in the fall of 1986, I was driving back to college after spending the weekend at home. I remember stopping for gas and when I turned the radio on, there was this incredible song I'd never heard before. It sounded like 70's Aerosmith, but with an 80's sound. It was so cool, from the open hi hat, to a great solo. The vocals were fantastic. I couldn't wait for the song to end to find out who it was. Well, the DJ just played another song, and I didn't find out. When I got to my dorm room about 45 minutes later, I literally called the station's request line to find out who that was. I bought the album that week, and tesla would become one of my favorite 80's bands.
The were both classic and original all at once. Such a great balance.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 08, 2019, 08:04:56 PM
I got Back in Black with The Wall. What a combo in diversity.  Both resonate with me to this day.

Jeremy is a song that was so jarring but so engaging that it brings out so many emotions.  I was lucky to see them on this tour.

Hey You.  What can I say what an amazing song from an amazing album and how lucky was I to see this played on The Division Bell tour.

Hearing that Tesla song brings me back to playing  tackle football with my buds. They played that album every time we played. It reminds me that my nickname was John Riggins.  I never ran around my buddies.  I ran through them.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 08, 2019, 08:07:29 PM
As overplayed as AC/DC is, Back in Black is one of their songs I never get tired of hearing. :metal

Hey You is a classic of course, and I was lucky to see on the Division Bell tour as well.

Not a fan of Pearl Jam or Tesla.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 08:10:39 PM
Joe, I appreciate your post. Love the football memories. And that's how I was feeling. Some of this music you just take for granted, but a lot of it is so foundational.

Funny you bought those two albums together. I usually bought tapes in pairs too.


Not a fan of Pearl Jam

Musically, I'm not either, but I respect how they go about things. Rotating setlists, etc.. A few years ago, they played three shows in Mansfield, and basically played their discography over the three nights. That's cool.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 08, 2019, 08:12:19 PM
The AC/DC album I grow up with was For Those About to Rock (We Salute You), and I'd say it's their best even though Bon Scott is my favourite AC/DC vocalist. You know, AC/DC has kept the same basic sound over the years (with some exceptions, Ballbreaker has some great songs that doesn't sound that much like you'd think AC/DC does). Back in Black (I listened to it back in 2009, wait was it a decade ago?) had never the same effect on me. But it's probably all about nostalgia.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 08, 2019, 08:12:47 PM
Yep, I respect PJ's tendency to do not the predictable, and who didn't love them going after Ticketbastard?  I am not just a fan of Eddie Vedder's voice; that is a hill I just cannot climb.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 08:14:56 PM
The AC/DC album I grow up with was For Those About to Rock (We Salute You), and I'd say it's their best

I love Spellbound. One of the top Brian era tracks.
I would've loved to have heard Spellbound with Back In Black's production.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 08, 2019, 08:15:13 PM
I am not just a fan of Eddie Vedder's voice; that is a hill I just cannot climb.

That's my problem with Pearl Jam. I can tolerate Jeremy and Even Flow enough to like them, but with another vocalist they'd be among my favourite 90s songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 08, 2019, 08:16:05 PM
Tim. It's funny how we relgto music when it affects us.

I destroyed my Back in Black album and asked it again for my birthday in 1994. I got it with Queen- The Works.

I can't remember to take out the track, but I can'
 remember stuff like this.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 08, 2019, 08:16:10 PM
Also Tim, if you're going to have a real-life party, I'm in!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 08:19:18 PM
Also Tim, if you're going to have a real-life party, I'm in!

 :metal

This is it, brother!!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 08, 2019, 08:21:42 PM
Get your partying in now.   It's Tim's bedtime.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 08:28:07 PM
 :lol


Shut up old man!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 08, 2019, 08:28:20 PM
I've never listened to Tesla before. But the song you recommended is pretty good 80s hair metal. Enough complexity and not too much cock rock.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 08:29:50 PM
I've never listened to Tesla before. But the song you recommended is pretty good 80s hair metal. Enough complexity and not too much cock rock.

Ruba, you should check Tesla out. They're not hair metal at all. They are a 70's band trapped in an 80's band body. They did have some sappy stuff but overall, Tesla f'n rocked.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 08, 2019, 08:33:06 PM
I've never listened to Tesla before. But the song you recommended is pretty good 80s hair metal. Enough complexity and not too much cock rock.


They were the 1st band of the 80's that didn't let makeup and Auqanet be their #1 priority and put music first.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 08:38:14 PM
Yeah Ruba, just spin Mechanical Resonance, their first album. It's incredible.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 08, 2019, 08:45:51 PM
Well, the 80s hard rock songs around here (Finland) that play on the radio are Bon Jovi, the hits from Back in Black, Here I Go Again, Rock You Like Hurricane, Alice Cooper's Poison and probably some Mötley Crüe (personally hate 'em), so I don't know so much about that genre. I've listened to some Tesla right now and they actually remind me of Queensr˙che's rockier songs, so it's all good.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 08:54:55 PM
Well, the 80s hard rock songs around here (Finland) 

We looked hard at Finland for The TAC Family Summer Vacation next summer. It ended up not being in the cards, but it made it to the semi finals.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 08, 2019, 08:58:49 PM
Well, the 80s hard rock songs around here (Finland) 

We looked hard at Finland for The TAC Family Summer Vacation next summer. It ended up not being in the cards, but it made it to the semi finals.

Nice. We have one national rock station that plays mostly Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down and everything that is left over is mostly Volbeat or Sabaton. There's also one hard rock/stadion rock focused stadion, but it only broadcasts in bigger cities. If you're coming here, I'd recommend you'll have your own music with you.

But anyway I've never been to Lapland to see the midsummer sun, but around here (Joensuu) sun still never really sets either around summertime.

So where're you going then?
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 08, 2019, 09:01:42 PM
I always have my own music with me!

We were looking at a place in Tampere, among others.

We are planning a trip to Italy in 2020. that's where my oldest son wants to go for graduation. I was hoping to scale back next summer, but my wife...

Anyway, we're staying in the states going to San Diego.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 08, 2019, 09:07:46 PM
I always have my own music with me!

We were looking at a place in Tampere, among others.

We are planning a trip to Italy in 2020. that's where my oldest son wants to go for graduation. I was hoping to scale back next summer, but my wife...

Anyway, we're staying in the states going to San Diego.

Tampere is one of my favourite Finnish cities and a home for many great Finnish rock bands (who of course sing in Finnish  :lol). There is a good amusement park called Särkänniemi, a place to visit if you have any younger children.

But of course, Italy is sure a nice place to visit, for both culture and entertainment. Never been there myself.

Sorry if I'm being too intrusive, but where do you live yourself?
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Cool Chris on February 08, 2019, 09:39:14 PM
I did a top 20 PF songs a while back and think I had Hey You at 2 or 3. I love it that much. I was always bummed it got cut from the Alan Parker film but understand why it was.

When the aliens land and ask us what Hard Rock is, Back in Black is the song we should play for them.

Never got in to PJ, which is blasphemy around here, but I always liked Jeremy.

I should have been more in to Tesla than I was.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: ytserush on February 08, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Yeah Ruba, just spin Mechanical Resonance, their first album. It's incredible.

Have to admit it's been years since I put that in the CD player.  Never bothered with anything after the second album. Decent stuff.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2019, 04:19:27 AM
Back In Black is just perfect for the band given where they were at in their career circumstances, and perfect for the genre at the time.  Top 20 album of all-time on my list.

Hey You, just one piece of an overall masterpiece.  For many years, The Wall was my desert-island album

Pearl Jam... <hits skip>

Modern Day Cowboy.  Although my introduction to Tesla was thru TGRC, this is my favorite song by them.  Just some killer rock.  Great description of them Tim - 70s band in an 80s body.  They are to the 80s what Aerosmith was to the 70s.  Sure, they had a couple of 'glammy' songs (looking at you, Love Song) that caught the video airwaves, but otherwise they are NOT glam/hair metal at all.  @ Ytse, I adore Psychotic Supper (though it has some filler), but Bust A Nut is where they lost me.  I've tried a couple of their 2000s-era albums, but Keith's voice is nothing like it was in the 80s.

Looking forward to following this thread.  Keep 'er goin TAC!  Maybe pass the baton to others every so often, as I'm sure all of us fogeys have a story around 'that moment' with about a thousand different songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Indiscipline on February 09, 2019, 05:31:22 AM
I always have my own music with me!

We were looking at a place in Tampere, among others.

We are planning a trip to Italy in 2020. that's where my oldest son wants to go for graduation. I was hoping to scale back next summer, but my wife...

Anyway, we're staying in the states going to San Diego.

(https://i.imgur.com/kPCY0wa.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 09, 2019, 05:51:03 AM
Fogey thread? I'm in.  ;D

That Back In Black is just classic.

Hey You is nice and for years The Wall was my go to Pink Floyd record. Now it's either Animals or Wish You Were Here.

Pearl Jam is okay for me, some songs I like, some not so much.

For Tesla, Psychotic Supper is just unbeatable, regardless of one or two filler songs. And I really like Bust A Nut, not sure why people don't seem to like it, it's not that different from the rest.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Lowdz on February 09, 2019, 06:36:09 AM
4/4 there for me, though like you Tim I’m not a PJ fan at all. That was a good song. I do have Ten in my collection but only because my ex wife left it behind.

Back In Black is great, though whole album is.

I’m a casual Pink Floyd fan but that’s one of their best.

Tesla are a big favourite of mine. They didn’t make my top 50 but maybe should have. The first three and half of Bust A Nut are awesome. Not much any good after that. They made going acoustic cool too with Five Man Acoustical Jam.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2019, 06:47:12 AM
I should have been more in to Tesla than I was.

You're welcome!

Have to admit it's been years since I put that in the CD player.   

Yeah, that's the point!

I'm sure all of us fogeys have a story around 'that moment' with about a thousand different songs.

And I hope to hear them. Again, that's what this is about.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 09, 2019, 09:17:09 AM
The AC/DC album I grow up with was For Those About to Rock (We Salute You), and I'd say it's their best

I love Spellbound. One of the top Brian era tracks.
I would've loved to have heard Spellbound with Back In Black's production.

This.  Obviously I love both, and the "hits" on BiB are legendary, but I MUCH prefer the deeper cuts on FTATR ("Spellbound", "Evil Walks", "COD", and especially "Night Of The Long Knives").

Pearl Jam:  I like the Stone Gossard Pearl Jam way more than the Eddie Vedder Pearl Jam (they transitioned around... say, No Code). The early PJ was so Kiss/Sabbath/The Who driven that it was really a fresh surprise (they were very different than the Cobain/Mudhoney "I hate the world and the world sucks and fuck the jocks that beat me up in high school").

Tesla: I LOVE that song; there was a girl at school that liked them and particularly that song.  That's a good memory right there, let's leave it at that.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Indiscipline on February 09, 2019, 09:57:30 AM
Back in Black -  We may spend a lifetime searching in vain for an appropriate label for this tune, or we may search for the thesaurus definition of Rock Song, finding Back in Black.

Hey You - Peak Roger if we exclude Animals. A very high peak.

Jeremy - Add a sprinkle of Neil Young and Stadler's description of Pearl Jam mirrors exactly my own. I listened to Ten shortly after release, and I had the clear impression I was witnessing the last of the mithological classic rock bands for outsiders.

Modern Day Cowboy - Focking infectious and classic "listen to this while driving at your own peril" song. Tesla were extremely good, and they happened at least ten years too late for their own good. Also, Love Song is great.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
In a pub before tonight’s Celtics game I heard so many candidates for this thread. Will post when I get home after tomorrow ‘s Bruins game.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 09, 2019, 08:45:37 PM
What a crappy game to see Tim.  I'm sorry.  Boy is this team letting us down.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 09, 2019, 09:06:50 PM
Yeah, you Boston sports fans have it rough. :P :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2019, 09:20:46 PM
What a crappy game to see Tim.  I'm sorry.  Boy is this team letting us down.

You got the f'n W. Quit whining.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2019, 03:48:46 AM
Don't know that Pink Floyd or Tesla song.

ACDC I have never ever liked a single thing about them or any of their songs.  Can't stand anything from them.

Ten was a big album for me as a kid.  Getting into the harder style of music, Pearl Jam was an easy commercial choice to start learning.  Classic album and while not one of my favs from the album, classic classic song that has aged amazingly well.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2019, 04:26:20 AM
Don't know that Pink Floyd or Tesla song.

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F478.gif&hash=da061371d6a664e23d4275fc0c75feeb01ba228d)

Seriously mate... go fix that right now.  I suspect you'll be pleasantly surprised.  If I'd known that, I'd have played it in a roulette for you.

I guess as an Aussie, the AC/DC thing is understandable... even if it's blatantly wrong.   :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2019, 04:36:18 AM
You did.  You sent me Edison's Medicine.  It was pretty cool.  After that I managed to get a couple of their albums for a few bucks each, but never really listened to them.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2019, 04:41:11 AM
You did.  You sent me Edison's Medicine.  It was pretty cool.  After that I managed to get a couple of their albums for a few bucks each, but never really listened to them.

Go listen to the first two right now Kade.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2019, 05:00:02 AM
You did.  You sent me Edison's Medicine.  It was pretty cool.  After that I managed to get a couple of their albums for a few bucks each, but never really listened to them.

oh yeah....

Put this IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT!!!!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 10, 2019, 05:28:05 AM
What a crappy game to see Tim.  I'm sorry.  Boy is this team letting us down.

You got the f'n W. Quit whining.

A win?  The C's had a 28 point lead only to lose by 14. 

Yeah, you Boston sports fans have it rough. :P :lol

This C's team had high expectations this year and they are a major disappointment.  With the talent they have they shouldn't play this way.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2019, 05:34:03 AM
Ahh... missed the "Celtics" mention of Tim's comment.  Thought we were talking Bruins.

Yeah... that Celtics game was a complete fluster-cuck.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/PEtL0mS2JXMBi/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2019, 07:14:40 AM
Yeah,  Celtics last night blew.

Bruins today.



Kade, you hate money that much? That first Tesla album is great.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2019, 02:49:14 PM
Kade, you hate money that much? That first Tesla album is great.

That haul with Tesla and some other stuff I can't remember was like the final straw of my random cd buying addiction.  I realised I didn't need to buy them, but I will check which albums I got and report back.  And yeah, I do okay for myself so that didn't help my addiction.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2019, 06:35:13 PM
So sitting at the Boston Sports Grille a block away from the Garden before last night's Celtics game...

They were blasting some great 70's and 80's tunes. And I mean blasting. Lots of songs that I haven't heard in a long time.

So many songs I could use for this thread, but I'll pick two:

Bon Jovi-You Give Love A Bad Name

Go ahead. Try not to like this song. I dare you!
I liked Bon Jovi well enough. I didn't think they sucked. They were a legit band with real talent. I saw their first tour in 1984 opening for Scorpions. They blew me away. They really did. I bought their debut the next day!

I remember seeing the video to YGLABN. They were posing, for sure. The song was catchy for sure. But there was just an undeniable quality about Bon Jovi. I realize they didn't start the Hair Metal movement. They just made it popular, and opened the floodgates for so many bands.


Led Zeppelin-Whole Lotta Love

So right after the place plays Metallica's One (I considered this song for the thread, but I listen to it all the time. To me, this is about songs that I personally hardly ever listen to, though have impacted me in some way)…anyway, as soon as One ends, The Lovely Mrs TAC turns to me and says "It's not even that the music is bad. It's the screaming that ruins it."
And right on cue, the opening riff to Whole Lotta Love starts, to which I respond, "Speaking of needless screaming".

As an 11 or 12 y/o kid, I was turned onto LZII. Whole Lotta Love made a huge impact. I remember liking it for the most part at first, though it was always about That Solo. Seemed like with every new Zeppelin song I heard, WLL kept getting pushed down in my rankings. Honestly, as an adult, I find the song obnoxious. I really do. Even The Lovely Mrs TAC said" for a 5 minute song, it's 4 1/2 minutes too long." When I was a kid, I found the song intriguing, even if I never loved it.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 10, 2019, 06:53:43 PM
Two classics that I never play anymore but hearing like you did Tim, I'd be singing and air guitaring in public. 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2019, 06:55:55 PM
Two classics that I never play anymore but hearing like you did Tim, I'd be singing and air guitaring in public.

Joe, you ever been there? It's next door to the Boston Beerworks on Canal St.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
Fuck I hate LZ.

Never liked Bon jovi either but only know their hits.  Will check out the early albums one day.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 10, 2019, 07:29:36 PM
But of course Tim.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2019, 07:32:49 PM
Yeah, I figured.

I got the BBQ fried chicken sandwich on sourdough. It was amazing!

Tons of great tunes. But it was loud as hell. I was air drumming and banging the table. My family was ready to move away from me!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 10, 2019, 07:42:23 PM
Whole Lotta Love is one of those great songs I can hear a thousand times and always enjoy. 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
I feel like the older I've gotten, the less I enjoy it.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 10, 2019, 07:59:02 PM
If I turn on LZ now, it is almost always the lesser known songs, but II is the one album of theirs I will still crank up from start to finish.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: ytserush on February 10, 2019, 08:11:36 PM
Never owned a Bon Jovi record in my life. Not going to start now.

Rock N' Roll and Black Dog are probably the two Zep songs I never need to hear again.

That reminds me I haven't been on a Zep kick in I don't know how long. Should probably do something about that.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Cool Chris on February 10, 2019, 08:32:37 PM
Only really liked Bon Jovi's hits, and that was probably my favorite of theirs.

Was a big LZ fan in my classic rock heyday (early 90s). But... <flame suit on> I always thought II was overrated. IV was in my top 3 albums (until I was introduced to DT and this weird new prog/metal genre), and I got a lot more airplay out of HotH and PS.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 11, 2019, 12:16:13 AM
That Bon Jovi tune is a good catchy rock song. They sure had some talent and up to Keep The Faith they were a really good band.

I love Led Zeppelin, but I never loved Whole Lotta Love. I can understand the impact at the time it was released and the riff is kinda cool, but I agree with TAC, the song is too long. When I was younger, I totally hatedn the atmospheric middle part, now I came to tolerate it, but it's still too long, imo. But the guitar solo ist stellar.  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 11, 2019, 07:49:56 AM
I love Zeppelin; i mean REALLY love Zeppelin. They have like, maybe four bad songs in the entire catalogue, and damn well two maybe three records that are, basically, perfect (IV, Physical and MAYBE, if I'm tolerant of Fool In The Rain, Out Door) and maybe three or four that are but a song off from that (I, II, Houses at least).

WLL is definitely a lower tier song for me, even at the best of times.  I'm not a blues guy, so some of that ("Womun!  YEWWWWWW need it....LuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH") I can do without.

Oddly, I saw that tour in '84 and was REALLY impressed with Bon Jovi live; they KILLED it.   But I never really got into the studio stuff much, and I can't really tell you why.  Maybe because there were just more distinctive singers and guitar players out there.   I mean, I hear five notes from Randy or Ozzy or Blackmore or Dickinson and I know exactly who it is.  I'm not sure I can do that with Richie Sambora.   
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 11, 2019, 09:48:00 AM
Tolerant of Fool in the Rain?  Jeez, that is only the best song on the record. :coolio :hat
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 11, 2019, 10:05:16 AM
Tolerant of Fool in the Rain?  Jeez, that is only the best song on the record. :coolio :hat

True, after I'm Gonna Crawl, In The Evening, Carouselambra, South Bound Suarez, and All Of My Love.  (I haven't forgotten Hot Dog, but I might give you that one). 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 11, 2019, 10:31:31 AM
The one thing I always think of when listening to Led Zep is the variety of styles of music they could do.  That was the 70's.  Today's band seem limited in the styles and sound they can play around with.  Zep could do blues, rock, country,reggae, prog.  Only a handful of bands are this adventurous as it was in the 70's.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: bosk1 on February 11, 2019, 10:50:40 AM
Wow, great collection of songs.  (I can't believe I just wrote that in response to something TAC posted)  4 for 4.  My takes:

-Back in Black:  I never bought and AC/DC album.  And I never will.  But as Kev said, this is a song I can never get tired of hearing.

-Hey You:  I am a pretty casual Floyd fan.  I have a small number of albums, as I've posted elsewhere, and that collection does not include The Wall (which I have always intended to remedy some day, but it has just somehow never been a high enough priority to pull the trigger).  But what a great song.  It is simultaneously mellow and intense, which is a feat on its own.

-Jeremy:  I got into Mother Love Bone pretty hard in 1990, so when Ten dropped, I was one of the few people who even knew about Pearl Jam.  Of course, that changed within a few months as they became radio and MTV darlings.  Jeremy was one of those songs that struck me right away as something special.  I've long since fallen out of love with this band, but Jeremy is one of those songs that I hear and still respect as a great artistic statement.

-Modern Day Cowboy:  I remember this song being all over MTV.  I liked it a LOT, but still hadn't gotten the album by the time I saw them open for Def Leppard on the Hysteria tour a few months later.  After seeing them live, I was hooked.  This is perhaps THE definitive Tesla song.  It just rocks from start to finish in flawless form.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Anguyen92 on February 11, 2019, 10:51:10 AM
The one thing I always think of when listening to Led Zep is the variety of styles of music they could do.  That was the 70's.  Today's band seem limited in the styles and sound they can play around with.  Zep could do blues, rock, country,reggae, prog.  Only a handful of bands are this adventurous as it was in the 70's.

I don't think it is matter of them being limited of what they can do as it is whether they either want to do that style or the public response to that style change.  Also it may come down to their fans, record labels, promoters, etc. willing to embrace that switch-up in styles and have the fans not call them sellouts, etc.

I mean imagine the reaction some people may give to DT if they incorporate reggae or country in their music.  It may be even worse than the responses regarding The Astonishing.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 11, 2019, 10:53:09 AM
Tolerant of Fool in the Rain?  Jeez, that is only the best song on the record. :coolio :hat

True, after I'm Gonna Crawl, In The Evening, Carouselambra, South Bound Suarez, and All Of My Love.  (I haven't forgotten Hot Dog, but I might give you that one).

Hot Dog gets a bad rap, but it's a fun little tune, even if it is a bit of an odd duck for LZ.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: pg1067 on February 11, 2019, 11:10:20 AM
AC/DC-Back In Black

. . .

Pearl Jam-Jeremy

. . .

Pink Floyd-Hey You

. . .

Tesla-Modern Day Cowboy

. . .

Taking these out of order

The Wall came out when I was in 7th grade.  I was not yet a fan of popular music, so I didn't know anything about it, but "We don't need no education. . ." was all over my school.  After I got into popular music, I bought a 45 of whichever the most well known part of ABITW is.  But that's it.  Don't like Floyd at all, but that song was a part of my very early popular/rock music education.

Pearl Jam's Ten came out during a very transitional phase both in the music world and for me personally.  Obviously, metal was trending down and grunge was bursting onto the scene.  The earliest grunge I heard wasn't labelled as such, and the songs from Ten were generally considered to be metal, although there was obviously something different about them.  I dig "Jeremy" and some of the other songs on Ten.  It's the only PJ album I ever bought.  For me personally, my long-time band broke up in late 1991 because our drummer and his wife moved out of the area, and the guitarist and I didn't have the energy to go through yet another drummer search.  Not a good time for me at all.

I was introduced to AC/DC by "For Those About to Rock."  MTV played a video that I guess was made with live footage over the studio version of the song.  The guitar intro drew me in instantly, and the pyro and cannons impressed 14 year old me.  I wasn't a huge fan of the vocals, though.  I don't remember when I first heard "Back in Black," but I know that it was at a time when I still thought Brian Johnson was a terrible singer.  Eventually, his voice grew on me, and both of these songs are all-time classics -- I much prefer FTATB, though.  When I first learned to play bass, my instructor had me start with "Back in Black," so it holds a small special place in my heart for that reason.

I generally don't think much of Tesla, but "Modern Day Cowboy" kicks ass, and it's one of those songs that I tend to forget about until someone randomly brings it up, and I say, "oh yea...that's a really good song."  I always felt like it got somewhat overlooked because of the "other cowboy song":  Bon Jovi's "Wanted Dead or Alive."


Bon Jovi-You Give Love A Bad Name

. . .

Led Zeppelin-Whole Lotta Love

. . .

I HATED "You Give Love a Bad Name" when it came out, but now I dig it, although I don't go out of my way to listen to it.  Just a fun song.

In 6th and 7th grade (1978-80), kids were putting "Led Zeppelin" on their Pee-Chees and otherwise decorating them with music stuff.  I wasn't yet into popular music, but I wanted to be "cool."  Unfortunately, I didn't know that "Zeppelin" had two "p's," so my plan backfired big-time.  I didn't really start getting into LZ until the mid-80s.  I worked at a Baskin-Robbins in a local mall, and the manager was a big fan of 70s rock.  I went through one of those phases where I went back and bought all of the old albums.  I even read the (since discredited) biography Hammer of the Gods.  "Whole Lotta Love" was awesome...at first.  Eventually, the middle section got excruciatingly boring.  So many better LZ songs out there.


Tolerant of Fool in the Rain?  Jeez, that is only the best song on the record. :coolio :hat

True, after I'm Gonna Crawl, In The Evening, Carouselambra, South Bound Suarez, and All Of My Love.  (I haven't forgotten Hot Dog, but I might give you that one). 

Ugh..."I'm Gonna Crawl" is awful.  "Fool in the Rain" is really good.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Samsara on February 11, 2019, 11:22:38 AM
Cool thread my man.

AC DC - BiB - I don't like AC/DC. There, I said it. Sure, I dig them well enough on the radio once in awhile. But generally speaking, I've never gotten the fanatical devotion to this band. Just like KISS - I don't get it.

Pearl Jam - Jeremy. When did this drop? 1991? I was in 10th grade, I think. I dug it. A lot. It was funny, because even then, I didn't do this whole "grunge" drama thing. If it rocked, I liked it. Jeremy rocked, it was good, and I picked up Ten and still love that record to this day.

Pink Floyd - Hey You. I don't remember the first time I heard this song. But i liked it. It was on the radio, it was catchy, etc. I became a bigger fan of classic Pink Floyd (what I consider to be Meddle through The Wall) about 10 years ago, when I was on a kick to discover the influences of MY favorite band of all time (the original lineup of Queensryche). Still love "Hey You" to this day.

Tesla - Modern Day Cowboy. This song kicks all sorts of ass, and always has. I still listen to it a handful of times per year. I knew of Tesla around the time of The Great Radio Controversy, but I didn't become a Tesla fan until about 1999. Blew me away. Still wish they did, but sadly, I think member changes, weaker songs, and age have taken this band from me.

Bon Jovi - You GIve Love a Bad Name. Man, takes me back. Fifth Grade. I remember hearing nasty stories about Jon Bon Jovi that he drank buckets of semen during concerts. I have no idea WTF was up with that, I remember being revolted, and not quite sure at age 10 WTF that was anyway. But the story about it - shit, I remember that.  :rollin :rollin :rollin But the album, I had to have, and I did. I remember getting it from Pathmark (a supermarket on Long Island) on cassette, and having my mom ask the clerk to open the locked cabinet so I could get it.

That whole record is incredible. Sure, some of it sounds dated to the 80s thanks to David Bryan's keyboards, but much like Thin Lizzy, Jon Bon Jovi can tell a great story with song, and I still listen to Slippery When Wet a few times a year.

Led Zeppelin - II -- Whole Lotta Love. Classic tune. Much like Floyd, I became a Zepp fan a little later during a period of time that I was researching influences. I haven't listened to this particular song or the record, in quite a bit, but I love it.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Ruba on February 11, 2019, 11:25:00 AM
You Give Love a Bad Name is a fine track indeed, even though I'm not into Bon Jovi. They have some other singles I like (Runaway, Wanted Dead or Alive), but generally they're too much hair metal for me. :lol

I was air drumming and banging the table. My family was ready to move away from me!

 :lol :metal

Also, I am sorry for off-topicy drunkposting the other night. But on the other hand, I had never heard Modern Day Cowboy before, which definitely was a shame. Great tune!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 11, 2019, 02:42:07 PM
I'd just like to point out how strange it is for songs from the mid to late 80's to now be referred to as classic rock. 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: bosk1 on February 11, 2019, 02:51:57 PM
:lol  I saw REO, Styx, and Journey in 2002 or 2003, and Tommy Shaw said something along the lines of, "So we're 'classic rock' now. I feel old!"
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Samsara on February 11, 2019, 03:12:03 PM
:lol  I saw REO, Styx, and Journey in 2002 or 2003, and Tommy Shaw said something along the lines of, "So we're 'classic rock' now. I feel old!"

Dude, Alice in Chains is now playing on classic rock stations. What. The. Hell. (Have I?)  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2019, 02:51:17 PM
Zeppelin... no. Just no. That voice 🙉😫

Bon Jovi - great song. A big part of making hair metal such a big thing. And it’s nowhere near my favourite song on the album 😀
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Indiscipline on February 12, 2019, 03:24:15 PM
Whole Lotta Love - Ah, the solo that wants you to learn it everytime you spin it. Nobody - except Hendrix and sometimes Cream - has stretched the blues to its sexiest consequences. Love it, once I realised it's not a tune, but a mood piece, where the mood is greasy hanky-panky fornication.

You Give Love a Bad Name - Great riff, great hook, fit for a Rocky flick training montage (and, let's admit it, there is no higher honour for a straight rock tune). Maybe it's because I lived it bigbro-vicariously, but I never understood the hate towards the so-called "hair metal". It was good rock, just coated in glittery slime and delusion like everything and everybody culturally relevant were during those years.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: pg1067 on February 12, 2019, 05:18:41 PM
I remember hearing nasty stories about Jon Bon Jovi that he drank buckets of semen during concerts. I have no idea WTF was up with that, I remember being revolted, and not quite sure at age 10 WTF that was anyway. But the story about it - shit, I remember that.  :rollin :rollin :rollin

LOL!  I seem to recall a very similar story about David Bowie, and there was also the story about Richard Gere and the gerbil (there's even a Snopes article debunking that one).  Not sure where this stuff comes from!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 12, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
How about Gene Simmons getting into a fight with Shaun Cassidy and beating him up with his demon boots?! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2019, 05:45:13 PM
Never heard the stories about JBJ or Gene.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2019, 06:02:39 PM
So today driving around, it was double shot Twosday.

I stopped and enjoyed these two classics:

I don't have a lot of personal memories tied to early Foreigner. I did have Head Games on 8 track, but I was finding out that I was more of a hard rock kid. I remember enjoying all of their radio hits and never really changing the channel until they started softening up. But their first three albums are pretty decent. And I have always thought that Lou Gramm had an awesome voice.

Foreigner-Hot Blooded

Anyway, I couldn't help but think how dumb these lyrics are:
"But you've got to give me a sign, come on girl, some kind of sign
Tell me, are you hot mama? "
  :lol

Still it's dumb, but highly enjoyable. It's probably been 20 years since I sat through this song.

Foreigner-Double Vision

TBH, I have always loved this song. It hits the spot. Again, I never really got into Foreigner, but I highly respect their early albums. This is a great song. I'm sure you guys will have more to say about it than me, but again, after probably never listening to this track from in its entirety in at least twenty years, it was all so familiar.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Cool Chris on February 12, 2019, 06:30:04 PM
Had a Foreigner Greatest Hits CD at some point. Heard them on 102.5 here all the time. Can't imagine going out of my way to listen to them now. Still some good tunes though.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 12, 2019, 07:13:47 PM
Lou's voice was so damn powerful.   I just loved seeing them live.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 12, 2019, 07:21:39 PM
There are only a few Foreigner songs I actively turn on anymore, neither of which are these featured here, but they are good, solid tunes.  I probably just heard them too many times back in the day.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2019, 08:38:19 PM
Had a Foreigner Greatest Hits CD at some point. Heard them on 102.5 here all the time. Can't imagine going out of my way to listen to them now. Still some good tunes though.

Foreigner ARE a greatest hits type band for me .    On one hand I rate them very highly (and Lou Gramm is one of THE great vocalists) but on the other hand almost all their albums are half killer, half filler at best and so they didn't get near my DTF Top 50 despite me regarding them very highly.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: T-ski on February 12, 2019, 08:51:36 PM
Pretty sure I have Foreigner “Classics” on cassette somewhere.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 13, 2019, 12:27:45 AM
I have some fond memories in regards to Foreigner, mostly because the song I Want To Know What Love Is was played a lot at dancing parties and this was the slow song, where you cling to each other.  ;D

I have the first five records and enjoy them once in a while. The hits are mostly great, the rest I wouldn't necessarily call filler, although there are some. Some cool deep cuts too but most records are a bit uneven. And Lou Gramm could sing.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: bosk1 on February 13, 2019, 08:17:06 AM
They did a greatest hits collection titled Records in the early '80s.  That was another one where I forgot to send in the stupid Columbia House card on time, so it showed up in my mailbox a few weeks later.  I wasn't into Foreigner at the time, so I'm not sure why, but I opened it and listened instead of returning it.  I ended up liking it and playing it quite a bit.  I never did go farther and buy any of their studio albums.  But they had some really great hits.  The two that you mentioned are definitely fun songs, TAC.  That album I had had a live version of Hot Blooded, so that is the version I am most familiar with.  Anyhow, good songs.  But if you were going to listen to Foreigner, I have to still give you a Fail for not listening to their best song:  Juke Box Hero.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 13, 2019, 08:40:26 AM
I remember hearing nasty stories about Jon Bon Jovi that he drank buckets of semen during concerts. I have no idea WTF was up with that, I remember being revolted, and not quite sure at age 10 WTF that was anyway. But the story about it - shit, I remember that.  :rollin :rollin :rollin

LOL!  I seem to recall a very similar story about David Bowie, and there was also the story about Richard Gere and the gerbil (there's even a Snopes article debunking that one).  Not sure where this stuff comes from!

I heard that one about Rod Stewart. 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 13, 2019, 08:46:18 AM
I was never a huge Foreigner fan, though I LOVE Juke Box Hero.  I just remember being in 8th grade and being very insecure; sort of a fringe, part-time member of the cool group.   One time I was sitting while my friend (who was too cool for school and still his; if he wasn't my best friend, I'd hate him) was talking about his "girlfriend" and he said something like "Uh, dating (so-and-so) is so hard.  It's just head games." And I remember thinking "I want to play head games!  I want to!" (Not with my friend; with so-and-so).  Ah, the teen age years.  Not a pretty sight. 

I know have one of those five-CD sets with the first five records, and they're pretty good.  It's still hard to reconcile that the guy from King Crimson is in that band, and harder still to reckon the kind of clout Mick Jones has in music (produced Van Halen and Billy Joel). 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Samsara on February 13, 2019, 10:40:00 AM
I've seen Foreigner a handful of times. The first was with Lou (with Foreigner opening for Journey at Jones Beach in 1998 or 1999), the other two over the past 10 years or so with Kelly Hansen. I also saw Lou as a solo act once. I always respected them as a hard rock band. Good stuff. Not a huge fan, but I have a greatest hits compilation of their songs somewhere.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: pg1067 on February 13, 2019, 11:33:45 AM
Foreigner-Hot Blooded

. . .

Foreigner-Double Vision

. . .

These were two of the earliest rock songs I was exposed to, and I still have the Records greatest hits package that was released in 1982.  The lyrics to Hot Blooded are pure 70s cheese, but you can't help but sing along when it comes on the radio, and main guitar riff is a classic.  Double Vision is also really good.  My two favorite Foreigner songs are Juke Box Hero and Long, Long Way from Home, which has the distinction of being virtually the only rock song with a saxophone that I like (the only other one I can think of is DT's Another Day).  I think it's either a bari or tenor sax, but the sax work on the song is really good.  My old band briefly toyed with playing a cover, but we couldn't figure out how to arrange it for guitar, bass and drums in a way that did the song justice.


I remember hearing nasty stories about Jon Bon Jovi that he drank buckets of semen during concerts. I have no idea WTF was up with that, I remember being revolted, and not quite sure at age 10 WTF that was anyway. But the story about it - shit, I remember that.  :rollin :rollin :rollin

LOL!  I seem to recall a very similar story about David Bowie, and there was also the story about Richard Gere and the gerbil (there's even a Snopes article debunking that one).  Not sure where this stuff comes from!

I heard that one about Rod Stewart. 

That's it!  It was Rod Stewart, not Bowie.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2019, 03:20:20 PM
I cringe everytime I hear Hot Blooded.  Those lyrics, damn.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 13, 2019, 03:23:25 PM
I cringe everytime I hear Hot Blooded.  Those lyrics, damn.

 :lol

And that's saying a lot coming from you! :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2019, 03:47:02 PM
I cringe everytime I hear Hot Blooded.  Those lyrics, damn.

 :lol

And that's saying a lot coming from you! :rollin

I just wonder how these lyrics were perceived when it came out.  I mean the protagonist is blatantly telling this 'hot mama' to ditch her man to go and fuck him cause he can't control his hard on, like there and then.  it just seems quite, I don't know, bold. 

To me, the lyrics are in a way are more offensive than say WASP's Animal or even Priest's Eat Me Alive.  Call me crazy.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 13, 2019, 03:52:14 PM
  I mean the protagonist is blatantly telling this 'hot mama' to ditch her man to go and fuck him cause he can't control his hard on, like there and then. 

What's wrong with that? Makes perfect sense. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2019, 03:53:52 PM
 :lol  Yeah, I guess.....
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 13, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
Seriously, I said it's been like 20 years, but it's probably been a lot longer since I've sat through the entire song. And that's what the thread is about.

But I was thinking that these might be the stupidest lyrics I've ever heard. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 13, 2019, 04:15:35 PM
It's not like a rock star can't use that line. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 13, 2019, 04:29:43 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2tmc27.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/2tmc27) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator[/url)
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 13, 2019, 05:09:52 PM
That's after his brain aneurysm.   He gained a lot of weight and never sang the same.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2019, 06:31:39 PM
But I was thinking that these might be the stupidest lyrics I've ever heard. :lol

On so many levels.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Cool Chris on February 13, 2019, 06:46:32 PM
I have literally never given two seconds of thought to those lyrics. I am generally not a "lyric guy." If they sound good in the context of the song, they don't have to be Chaucer. Reading through them now I don't even think they are that bad for a generic rock song about sex from the late 70s.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 13, 2019, 06:49:37 PM
I have literally never given two seconds of thought to those lyrics. I am generally not a "lyric guy." If they sound good in the context of the song, they don't have to be Chaucer. Reading through them now I don't even think they are that bad for a generic rock song about sex from the late 70s.

Classic Cool Chris lines from the Junior Prom no doubt!
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 14, 2019, 07:48:15 AM
I have literally never given two seconds of thought to those lyrics. I am generally not a "lyric guy." If they sound good in the context of the song, they don't have to be Chaucer. Reading through them now I don't even think they are that bad for a generic rock song about sex from the late 70s.

I kind of agree.   Kiss has lyrics just as suggestive (maybe more).   

But no doubt stupid.  Why would she want to bone someone with a fever of a 103?   And what woman would fall for the line "you make me sing... for your sweet sweet thing"?  What woman wants her entertainment center referred to as "thing"?   
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Lowdz on February 14, 2019, 11:05:47 AM
I remember hearing nasty stories about Jon Bon Jovi that he drank buckets of semen during concerts. I have no idea WTF was up with that, I remember being revolted, and not quite sure at age 10 WTF that was anyway. But the story about it - shit, I remember that.  :rollin :rollin :rollin

LOL!  I seem to recall a very similar story about David Bowie, and there was also the story about Richard Gere and the gerbil (there's even a Snopes article debunking that one).  Not sure where this stuff comes from!

I heard that one about Rod Stewart.

It was Marc Almond Of Soft Cell in the uk.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: ytserush on February 14, 2019, 07:18:41 PM
Tolerant of Fool in the Rain?  Jeez, that is only the best song on the record. :coolio :hat

True, after I'm Gonna Crawl, In The Evening, Carouselambra, South Bound Suarez, and All Of My Love.  (I haven't forgotten Hot Dog, but I might give you that one).

I love this album, though I gather not many people do.

Least favorite album though I still like most of it is Presence. Even enjoy Coda.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: ytserush on February 14, 2019, 07:21:04 PM
The one thing I always think of when listening to Led Zep is the variety of styles of music they could do.  That was the 70's.  Today's band seem limited in the styles and sound they can play around with.  Zep could do blues, rock, country,reggae, prog.  Only a handful of bands are this adventurous as it was in the 70's.

Strangely, Zeppelin is one of the very few bands that I like the studio cut more than the live ones in many cases.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: ytserush on February 14, 2019, 07:22:50 PM
The one thing I always think of when listening to Led Zep is the variety of styles of music they could do.  That was the 70's.  Today's band seem limited in the styles and sound they can play around with.  Zep could do blues, rock, country,reggae, prog.  Only a handful of bands are this adventurous as it was in the 70's.

I don't think it is matter of them being limited of what they can do as it is whether they either want to do that style or the public response to that style change.  Also it may come down to their fans, record labels, promoters, etc. willing to embrace that switch-up in styles and have the fans not call them sellouts, etc.

I mean imagine the reaction some people may give to DT if they incorporate reggae or country in their music.  It may be even worse than the responses regarding The Astonishing.

Not me. I'd welcome that. But then I love the music of The Astonishing.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 14, 2019, 07:31:38 PM
Btw, I wasnt clear enough. I was talking about popular music of today.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
So a couple of songs I heard over the last day. Not sure if one qualifies for Classic Rock status, even though it is 25 years old.

Blind Melon-No Rain

OK, so it's not exactly Classic Rock, but it's still 25 years old. First off, I love this song. I have always loved this song. Always found it enjoyable. Love the rolling guitar lines once the song gets going. I just find it really catchy. One thing I will also say is that I bought this CD in a used CD shop and it f'n blew chunks. Big time. Man does this album suck. But No Rain is a diamond in the rough.

The Animals-House Of the Rising Sun

"There is a house in New Orleans, they call the Rising Sun"
Man that still gives me chills when I hear Eric Burdon sing that line. When I was a kid, this was an old song! :lol But holy shit, it is still amazing. The Animals have some great tunes, and there was an underrated latent heaviness about them.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 15, 2019, 04:42:44 PM
An oldies tune and a 90's song...I thought this was the classic rock thread?

What's tomorrow, songs by Lady GaGa and Elvis Presley? :P
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2019, 04:44:11 PM
I only reason I even know who Blind Melon are is that some article I once read was describing the awful state of the music industry with the line "..........and signing bands like Blind Melon."  :)
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2019, 04:49:24 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/48917947.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2019, 04:56:51 PM
I only reason I even know who Blind Melon are is that some article I once read was describing the awful state of the music industry with the line "..........and signing bands like Blind Melon."  :)

Brent, That Blind Melon album absolutely blows big ones. I like the song though. A one hit wonder for sure. And Shannon Hoon...puleeze.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Cool Chris on February 15, 2019, 05:00:06 PM
Oh god, No Rain is just awful. I cannot even put in to words what a horrible song that is.

House of the Rising Sun is a classic in the sense that it will never feel old or dated. Many years ago I bought an Animals "greatest hits" cd based on this song alone, and while I liked 2 or 3 other songs, I never dug their sound, or Burton's vocals. But on this one track damn do they work. It's like this was the one song he was born to sing.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: jingle.boy on February 16, 2019, 05:08:10 AM
Led Zeppelin-Whole Lotta Love

A week late here... I saw this on my phone last week, and knew I had to come back to it when I had a moment to post my thoughts.  Most know that I'm a big-ass Zepp fan (had the Four Symbols inked on my left shoulder when I was 18).  Zeppelin changed what music means to me, and since we're telling stories, I'm gonna re-post this for those that don't know:

1)  It was '86, and my older brother had just bought a new stereo with a CD player (those were brand new at the time).  He pops in Black Dog, and I'm like wtf with the little wah wah wah wah opening.  Then Bobby Plant chimes in and I'm like  :omg:.  Changed my musical tastes forever.  Up to that point, I was a wussy little teenager listening to Madonna, Wham, and all that poppy crap.  Zeppelin is still, and always will be, my favorite band.  Have the four symbols on my left shoulder which makes it so forever.

So, as it relates to Whole Lotta Love... my parents split up in late '85, 2 months after they'd put me in a high-school that wasn't the one that my elementary school fed in to.  To say I was a lost soul would be an understatement.  Music eventually became a rock for me, and after getting exposed to Zeppelin, I was insatiable in my discovery.  Cue Columbia House Record Club!  Naturally, 14-year olds don't know how much of a scam it was.  Sometime in early '88, I finally got around to Zeppelin II, at the urging of my "friends" ... I'd starting associating with the stoner crowd, but I wasn't really 'in' the group ... I was instructed not to listen to the album unless baked out of my mind.  I followed those instructions, and hearing that opening riff for the first time was as monumental a music-listening moment as hearing Plant's voice for the first time.  Easily top-5 (maybe top-3) riff ever for me.  Sure, the musical section drags on, but for me, this is an epic song, without being epic in length.

Fuck I hate LZ.
I'm now questioning not only our friendship, but humanity in general.  What the fuck is wrong with you :lol?  You and Paul... NO SOUP FOR YOU!  <typed this before I saw Paul’s response… but knew it was coming>

That reminds me I haven't been on a Zep kick in I don't know how long. Should probably do something about that.

Ditto


Bon Jovi-You Give Love A Bad Name

Ironically, from the same post about Zeppelin (it was the "top 5 albums that changed your life")

4)  Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet.  Hard to say which 'glam' album really got me first (could've been Look What the Cat Dragged In), but from from the time between `86 and `97, Classic Rock and Glam Rock were the only styles of music that appealed to me.  There were a few smatterings of metal (Maiden, Queensryche, Ozzy), but not much.  I had a Columbia Record club subscription (who remembers those?) and filled my CD collection with Glam discs with everything from Aldo Nova to Winger)

YGLABN is mid-tier on that album, which is 5* top to bottom.

For what it's worth, Slippery When Wet was #27 on my Top50; Zepplin II was #16.

I'll come back tomorrow to get caught up on Foreigner.. but have a beauty story on No Rain.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2019, 05:17:33 AM
Love it, Chad!

On my phone, but great post.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Indiscipline on February 16, 2019, 06:20:05 AM
House of the Rising Sun - Uncalculable influence on everything rock. If your favourite song from your favourite band is a Lamborghini Miura, HOFTRS is, well, the invention of the wheel. I'm not sure there have been more than 19 people in history as capable as Burdon to scream his soul out with such beauty and raw power.

No Rain - The precursor to the Agenda Corollary: terrible tune completely redeemed by the campiest possible videoclip.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: ytserush on February 16, 2019, 10:02:26 AM



The Animals-House Of the Rising Sun

"There is a house in New Orleans, they call the Rising Sun"
Man that still gives me chills when I hear Eric Burdon sing that line. When I was a kid, this was an old song! :lol But holy shit, it is still amazing. The Animals have some great tunes, and there was an underrated latent heaviness about them.

I like this song, but I like that David Johansen Animals Medley from the '80s  better, probably because it was the first time I'd heard it.  Always wanted to get a copy of that over the years but never have.

Never managed to get that Animals "Best of" collection either.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2019, 01:06:15 PM
Glad I didn’t disappoint Chad 😀
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 17, 2019, 04:51:09 PM
Zep is kind of a weird band for me.   I loved Page, because I could play a lot of his stuff, and I remember getting, let's say, "action" from a girl simply for playing Stairway... on a shitty acoustic at a college party.   But I never really appreciated them, or took their music to heart, until I got into some of the live stuff, and it really didn't finally click until I saw Page and Plant live in '95.  I've said it before here (and I don't expect anyone to really get it, but I was there), but "The Song Remains The Same" was the single greatest live moment I've ever experienced, and both my friend and I looked at each other when the song was done and said "what the fuck was that?".  It's almost like we blacked out or went into a trance or something.  It was amazing.  Then they did it again, later in the set, during "Calling To You", when they were interpolating other songs and Plant did a little thing with "Break On Through" by the Doors then burst into "For What It's Worth" by the Buffalo Springfield, and I realized just how good he is. 

"Tight but loose". 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2019, 07:35:22 PM
Those Page & Plant shows were tremendous. Saw them in the Spring of '95 and then again in the fall. They may have been the last concert at the old Boston Garden and the first at the FleetCenter.

I was blown away by their performance. It was really awe inspiring.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2019, 03:41:24 PM
So it was TWOsday again today. I was in my van for a brief time, but long enough to stop and listen to these:

Journey-Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'

Been a long time since I've heard this. It has quite a gag worthy title, but this is a great song.

I love the chorus:
"You're tearin' me apart
Oh every, everyday"


It really makes the song. Steve Perry is so strong here.

Journey-Wheel In The Sky

Although I'm no Journey expert, and I'm not familiar with their deep cuts, but Wheel In The Sky is probably my favorite song of theirs.
I was honestly being a fogey listening and thinking "This is when music was great". But it was... Not that it's not now. But there was an innocence about that time.

And again Steve Perry is ridiculous. Been years since I sat though this song, but Perry's vocals sounded different than I remember. They sounded like they were raised up over the music. They were almost too clean, compared to the sound of the rest of the track. Maybe it was some sort of remix/remaster. I don't remember the vocals feeling so separated.
Oh, and then the damn DJ cuts in just as that awesome ending starts. I love how this song ends, so heavy...for Journey.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: pg1067 on February 19, 2019, 04:22:21 PM
Blind Melon-No Rain

. . .


The Animals-House Of the Rising Sun

. . .

I never liked House of the Rising Sun, but it's not terrible.  No Rain, on the other hand...  I remember catching this video on MTV in 1992.  I thought it sucked hard and my opinion hasn't changed.  The video was dumb too.  The guy's voice was so damn whiny.  Not sure I ever heard anything else by this band, and I think I'm happy about that.


Journey-Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'

. . .

Journey-Wheel In The Sky

. . .

All of that early Perry-era Journey was so good!

My intro to Journey was  was the "Separate Ways" video on MTV in 1983 (and probably also the arcade game or the Atari game).  Classic bad 80s video, but a damn good song.  Journey was just massive back then -- especially after "Faithfully" was released as a single and video.  I sort of forgot about Journey until Raised on Radio came out, but that was a terrible album.  A couple years later, I started dating a girl who was a huge Journey fan, so I started taking a dive into the back catalog.  I never made it to the pre-Steve Perry albums, but those first five Perry-era albums are just so good.  "Wheel in the Sky" is one of my favorites.  "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'" less so, but it's still a good pop-rock song.  Every once in a while, I'll still dive back in and be reminded how good this band was.

Tim, check out some of the side 2 tracks on Escape and Frontiers.  Other than "Open Arms," they're not as well known as the "hits," but songs like "Mother, Father," "Edge of the Blade" and "Rubicon" are really good.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2019, 04:29:32 PM

Tim, check out some of the side 2 tracks on Escape and Frontiers.  Other than "Open Arms," they're not as well known as the "hits," but songs like "Mother, Father," "Edge of the Blade" and "Rubicon" are really good.

The Journey albums I have are:
Departure
Infinity
Captured
Escape
Trial BY Fire


I definitely don't have Frontiers.

I never listen to those CDs though. I do have them loaded on my ipod. I just never stop on them when browsing for something to listen to.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 19, 2019, 05:19:49 PM
Thanks to my cousin,  he got me into Journey.  These 2 songs are stellar.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 19, 2019, 06:06:50 PM
Maybe it is just a St. Louis thing, but classic rock radio always played Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin' and City of the Angels back-to-back, just like LZ's Heartbreaker and Living Loving Maid, so I cannot talk about one without the other.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2019, 07:02:10 PM
LZ's Heartbreaker and Living Loving Maid,

These were played back to back here as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 19, 2019, 08:08:22 PM
It was "Feelin' That Way" and "Anytime" that were always played together in my neck of the woods.

I have nothing to add to the great things being said about Steve Perry.  It's not a full-on regret, but I didn't really appreciate Journey until much later; I would have liked to have seen the great Steve Perry in full flight live, and I didn't.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2019, 08:10:03 PM
It was "Feelin' That Way" and "Anytime" that were always played together in my neck of the woods.

Yeah, same here.

I have nothing to add to the great things being said about Steve Perry.  It's not a full-on regret, but I didn't really appreciate Journey until much later; I would have liked to have seen the great Steve Perry in full flight live, and I didn't.

I remember they were one of the first MTV Saturday Night Concerts.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: ytserush on February 19, 2019, 08:14:47 PM

Tim, check out some of the side 2 tracks on Escape and Frontiers.  Other than "Open Arms," they're not as well known as the "hits," but songs like "Mother, Father," "Edge of the Blade" and "Rubicon" are really good.

The Journey albums I have are:
Departure
Infinity
Captured
Escape
Trial BY Fire


I definitely don't have Frontiers.

I never listen to those CDs though. I do have them loaded on my ipod. I just never stop on them when browsing for something to listen to.

I pop the chute after the Frontiers record.  Don't need anything after that.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: KevShmev on February 19, 2019, 08:57:42 PM
It was "Feelin' That Way" and "Anytime" that were always played together in my neck of the woods.


Yep, those were as well here.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Cool Chris on February 19, 2019, 10:37:18 PM
Definitely threw me for a bit of a loop the first time I heard Feeling That Way not followed by Anytime.

Not a huge Journey fan, though do remember listening to a friends copy of their Time^3 box set for a small stretch in high school. 

Don't care much for Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'. Wheel in the Sky was a favorite though.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Snow Dog on February 19, 2019, 10:57:54 PM
I wish I could have been older when these classic rock bands were big. Being born in ‘80, by the time I came of age to my own musical tastes, most of the “classic rock” groups that I’ve come to enjoy had already had their heyday, Journey among them.

Wheel in the Sky was probably the first Journey song I remember hearing and taking note of, and a friend bringing over their greatest hits CD when I was in high school piqued my interest further. It was also around the time Trial By Fire came out. Message of Love is pretty solid, and One More remains one of my favorite Journey songs. But the rest is kind of forgettable and has nothing on Escape and Frontiers, my favorite of their albums.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 20, 2019, 06:47:55 AM
I wish I could have been older when these classic rock bands were big. Being born in ‘80, by the time I came of age to my own musical tastes, most of the “classic rock” groups that I’ve come to enjoy had already had their heyday, Journey among them.

Wheel in the Sky was probably the first Journey song I remember hearing and taking note of, and a friend bringing over their greatest hits CD when I was in high school piqued my interest further. It was also around the time Trial By Fire came out. Message of Love is pretty solid, and One More remains one of my favorite Journey songs. But the rest is kind of forgettable and has nothing on Escape and Frontiers, my favorite of their albums.

I think it depends on why you want that.   To see them live on top of their game? Sure.   In my experience, the best live shows are just BEFORE the big breakthrough, which means that you have to have a little luck to see bands at their peak.  I've been blessed to see a couple bands at what are now considered to be the "apex" of their rise to stardom.  Saw Def Leppard on their last tour as an opening band.    Amazing.  Saw U2 on the first leg of the Joshua Tree tour when it was still arenas.  AMAZING (the spotlight thing, before it became a trope, was really cool).  Saw Maiden on the Number Of The Beast tour as an opener.  45 minutes of pure liquid metal.  It was like looking straight at the sun.  Maiden is probably my favorite live band now (Slash is close too) but it's not at all the same band that was fresh to America in '82.   Contrast that with Guns'n'Roses, who I saw on the UYI tour where they were past the initial explosion, but haven't quite imploded yet, and while it was electric (it was the most "dangerous" show I've ever seen) you could see the bloat and excess and the resulting cracks around the edges.   Same with Motley Crue (Dr. Feelgood). 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 20, 2019, 06:52:34 AM
I wish I could have been older when these classic rock bands were big. Being born in ‘80, by the time I came of age to my own musical tastes, most of the “classic rock” groups that I’ve come to enjoy had already had their heyday, Journey among them.

I think it depends on why you want that.   To see them live on top of their game? Sure.   

I think it's more than just seeing them live though. I think it's the whole "newness" "in real time" that is the most exciting part of it.

I think anyone that is a real music fan likely has that, "I wish I was born 10 years earlier" lament. I know I do.
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 20, 2019, 07:11:33 AM
No, I most certainly do.   Maybe it's me; I just know there are a ton of bands that I could have been "there for" in the beginning and if I'm being honest, I just missed it. Journey is one.   I liked some of their stuff, but I wouldn't have been caught dead with a Journey CD. They were my girlfriend's band.   Same with Metallica, Queen, the Dead, Crimson...
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 20, 2019, 07:26:23 AM
Metallica was your girlfriend's band? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 20, 2019, 07:40:28 AM
Metallica was your girlfriend's band? :neverusethis:

Of course.  Only pussies listened to Metallica. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: TAC on February 20, 2019, 07:44:19 AM
Metallica was your girlfriend's band? :neverusethis:

Of course.  Only pussies listened to Metallica Rush. :neverusethis:

 :natalieportman:
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: King Postwhore on February 20, 2019, 07:51:46 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 20, 2019, 08:12:32 AM
Metallica was your girlfriend's band? :neverusethis:

Haha, no.  Journey.   
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Snow Dog on February 20, 2019, 01:05:34 PM
I wish I could have been older when these classic rock bands were big. Being born in ‘80, by the time I came of age to my own musical tastes, most of the “classic rock” groups that I’ve come to enjoy had already had their heyday, Journey among them.

I think it depends on why you want that.   To see them live on top of their game? Sure.   

I think it's more than just seeing them live though. I think it's the whole "newness" "in real time" that is the most exciting part of it.

I think anyone that is a real music fan likely has that, "I wish I was born 10 years earlier" lament. I know I do.

The bolded is more the sentiment that I was meaning, though seeing those classic rock acts live as well in their prime for a reasonable price would have been amazing.  But to have "been there" when they started up and followed them through their career is indeed and would have been the exciting part. 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Stadler on February 20, 2019, 06:12:21 PM
Oh, by the way, I went back to listen to "The Essential Journey" to check out what TAC was saying about the vocal mix (I agree 100%) and I happened to hear "Somethin' To Hide".

I suggest you all go and hear it too.  It's worth it.  (It's originally off "Infinity" if anyone cares). 
Title: Re: The TAC Classic Rock Radio Listening Party
Post by: Lowdz on February 21, 2019, 03:07:39 PM
I’m a casual Journey fan. Their greatest hits is “great” but theres a load of crap in there too.
My favourite Journey album is Arrival with Steve Augeri. Perry’s voice was too sweet for me.

Schon is a great guitarist though.

I like those two songs you played.

I can’t stand House of the Rising Sun - even more than Robert Plant 😱