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Title: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2019, 06:33:40 PM
I am not doing a poll!

Declare your allegiance in your first post in the thread!


Hot stove has been lukewarm this off season.
Top 3 FAs (Harper, Machado, Kimbrell) still unsigned.

HOF...Smith (deserved) and Baines(??) get in through back door
Rivera, Halliday, Edgar and Mussina get in
If Mussina gets in, why not Schilling? TAC stat comparison coming soon.

Can the Sox repeat? Mookie "avoids" arbitration with a 1 yr/$20mil deal.

Enjoy Peter Gammons while he is still alive. There is NO ONE better in ANY sport.

Harold Reynolds is growing on me like a fungus.


Oh, and TAC: Red Sox!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on January 23, 2019, 09:30:38 PM
I have not followed MLB closely for several years... so with that I say... Peter Gammons is still alive? Dang just looked him up, he is only 73. He looked 73 twenty years ago.

I am fond of Harold Reynolds, mainly because he is a former Mariner.

Speaking of... in 2019 the Mariners extend their streak of being the team with the longest playoff drought in the 4 major sports leagues.

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 24, 2019, 12:15:55 AM
Yankees fan since birth.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on January 24, 2019, 11:43:28 AM
There's been a discussion the past few days about the HOF class in the 2017 thread (for some reason):  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=49536.175

I'm the youngest of five kids.  My father was born in Brooklyn.  All of my siblings were born on Long Island, and that's where the family lived until the late 1950s.  Almost immediately after the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles, my family moved from NY to CA (and then briefly back to NY before moving again to CA.  I came along in 1967, and some of my earliest memories are of watching Dodger games with my dad -- including the 1974 World Series, which was only two months before he died.

Needless to say, I bleed DODGER blue!!!

The Sox will or should be favored to repeat.  Did they lose anyone more significant than Joe Kelly?

The Dodgers will win the NL West again.  The Padres and Giants are trash, and the Diamondbacks seem to be having a fire sale despite being better than the Dodgers most of last season.  Only the Rockies seem likely to challenge the Dodgers.  No one else in the NL concerns me, so I think we'll have another season where whoever wins the AL pennant will be significantly favored over the NL winner.

The MLB Network is great, and I like (or at least don't dislike) pretty much all of their anchors.  Pedro Martinez and Harold Reynolds (in particular) do a great job breaking things down.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on January 24, 2019, 02:16:13 PM
YANKEES FAN FROM BIRTH. First game - 1979, Season ticket holder - 1998. Dad born in Brooklyn (not much of a sports fan), but my grandfather was a diehard Yankees fan. Born and raised on Long Island, you had two choices - Mets or Yanks. Despite the Mets being the better team in the mid-80s and early-90s, I stayed true to the Yanks. SO glad I wasn't swayed.

Favorite players (from when I first saw them) - Reggie Jackson, Don Mattingly, Derek Jeter, Aaron Judge.

2019 we take down the Red Sux and bring the WS trophy back home to the Bronx where it belongs. 10 years is way too long for this franchise.

In all seriousness though, its going to be tough for the Yankees to get to the World Series. Pitching has to be better, and we need more consistency from Stanton. And I really wish they would have moved lazy boy Sanchez. I can't stand that guy. He was a lazy bum in the minors, got reprimanded, worked to get right, and now here we are in the majors, and he did the same damn thing. Should have cut ties. Sure, I'll be happy if he catches decently, hits 30-35 homers and hits close to .300. I still don't want him.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on January 26, 2019, 05:28:51 PM
Dodgers fan since birth!  Three WS in a row baby, let's get it!

Miami's new look is interesting, but not enough to make me a fan.

AZ is getting turf this year.  That will be interesting to watch.

Some minor league teams have changed their names and look for this year too.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on January 26, 2019, 08:47:03 PM
Brewers, Brewers, turning up the heat!

Just passed the one year anniversary of acquiring NL MVP Christian Yelich.

I also like a good beer.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TempusVox on February 01, 2019, 08:34:29 PM
Let's go Reds!!  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: lonestar on February 03, 2019, 08:55:37 PM
:GiantsMetal: :GiantsMetal: :GiantsMetal: :GiantsMetal:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on February 03, 2019, 09:03:12 PM
The 2019 TAC Family Summer vacation is set!

2015: Dodger Stadium
2016: Coors Field Denver
2018: AT&T Park San Francisco



2019: Petco Park San Diego!!!!!!!!!!!!




Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 04, 2019, 11:19:51 AM
Let's go Reds!!  :metal :metal :metal

I'll be pulling for them -- specifically, Yasiel Puig (when they're not playing the Dodgers).  I have a bet with a co-worker that Puig will hit more homers this year than Bryce Harper.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 05, 2019, 09:20:06 AM
The 2019 TAC Family Summer vacation is set!

2019: Petco Park San Diego!!!!!!!!!!!!

Been to Petco a couple of times. I like it. I love San Diego. You guys will have a great time. Leave an entire day for the San Diego Zoo. Its so big, trust me, you'll need all day. Make sure to take some tours of the various ships that are docked. Pretty cool stuff. I felt the Gaslamp District is a little overrated.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on February 07, 2019, 12:29:07 PM
RIP Frank Robinson.....one of the greats.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 07, 2019, 01:42:51 PM
RIP Frank Robinson.....one of the greats.

Damn...he sure was!  Still the only player to win the MVP in both the NL and the AL, and twelve straight seasons at the start of his career with 20+ HR (followed by a 15 HR season and then six seasons with 19+ HR per year!).  Unquestionably among the best of the best in MLB history.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on February 12, 2019, 10:26:17 PM
I've been to Petco once, it's weird how it's right in the middle of downtown.  We're not used to that in L.A.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 13, 2019, 10:41:15 AM
RIP Frank Robinson.....one of the greats.

Amen.

Really looking forward to baseball season this year.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2019, 10:00:34 AM
Does anyone really believe this?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/report-multiple-mlb-teams-offering-harper-over-dollar30m-per-year/ar-BBTJmeX?li=BBnba9I
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 18, 2019, 08:51:01 PM
Does anyone really believe this?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/report-multiple-mlb-teams-offering-harper-over-dollar30m-per-year/ar-BBTJmeX?li=BBnba9I

I don't doubt it.  He wants the high annual salary AND an extremely long-term deal.  Teams are willing to give him the former but not the latter, and certainly not both.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on February 18, 2019, 08:55:32 PM
Right, Heyman doesn't address the years in his reporting. He's a puppet for Boras.

He's obviously not getting the contract he's looking for, so lets float that a number of teams are offering $30M. I call bullshit.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on February 19, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
Machado to the Padres. 10 years 300 million....which of course averages out to 30 a year ..

You're up Harper
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2019, 10:58:20 AM
That's fucking crazy. I cannot believe he got that.

Over/Under on how many years before the Padres are regretting this deal. 3.5


Shame on me. I just didn't see it.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 19, 2019, 11:08:59 AM
That's fucking crazy. I cannot believe he got that.

Over/Under on how many years before the Padres are regretting this deal. 3.5


Shame on me. I just didn't see it.

Good Lord. The dude is a good player and all but nowhere near ‘worth’ that. His attitude alone should’ve cut into his worth.

any bets that he gets ‘hurt’ this season?

I understand why you’d want to live in San Diego for 10 years....but playing in that ballpark for 10 years is a tough call as a player. Not statistically nice to the power numbers.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 19, 2019, 11:23:11 AM
That's fucking crazy. I cannot believe he got that.

Over/Under on how many years before the Padres are regretting this deal. 3.5


Shame on me. I just didn't see it.

I'll take the over, but not by much.  That's just crazy.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 19, 2019, 12:30:02 PM
Looks like there's an option after year 5. Not sure if it is player or team, or both. So, there's separation if its not working out.

But hey, if you're a 26-year-old and was told that you could spend at least 5 years, and up to 10, making 30 million a year and living in San Diego, you take that.

However, if Manny got this, you gotta believe that Harper is going to command 10/350. But who's gonna take that plunge? The Phillies? They seem to be the only logical team left, given that San Diego likely wouldn't put two 300+ million contracts on the payroll.

I could see the Yankees doing a 10/350, but ONLY with multiple team options. But that'd be overkill for sure. But hell, I'm just glad the Bombers didn't sign Manny. Harper at least hustles. My guess is he heads to Philadelphia or Chicago (White Sox). But I'd be ok if he wanted to come to the Bronx...
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on February 23, 2019, 12:47:13 PM
Red Sox

Tim, the only reason Mussina is getting in and Schilling isn’t is lib politics (no I’m not turning this into a pol/rel thread!). Schilling has expressed conservative views over the years and that’s a big no-no today. Curt was one of the 5 greatest post-season pitchers of all time. Baines election was a travesty, proven to be pure cronyism on the part of LaRussa et al.

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: orcus116 on February 24, 2019, 08:31:54 AM
Post-season numbers can help but only get you so far and I don't think the politics has anything to do with Schilling. Looking at the numbers he was a very good, borderline great at times, regular season pitcher but never crossed into that amazing territory. He had longevity and some defining moments (bloody sock) but he was just a sturdy workhorse that I wouldn't complain if he got in I just don't see a case where he has to get in.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: cygnusx1jg on February 24, 2019, 02:17:44 PM
Not a huge MLB fan, but there will be months where it's the "only game in town", so I think playing in a fantasy league will help. Should I go Yahoo Fantasy Baseball or is there a better one (for free) out there?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 25, 2019, 11:07:36 AM
Tim, the only reason Mussina is getting in and Schilling isn’t is lib politics (no I’m not turning this into a pol/rel thread!). Schilling has expressed conservative views over the years and that’s a big no-no today. Curt was one of the 5 greatest post-season pitchers of all time. Baines election was a travesty, proven to be pure cronyism on the part of LaRussa et al.

Ummm...what?

Schilling is is a top-ten all-time postseason pitcher in wins and win-loss %.  Obviously, wins are skewed toward pitchers who have pitched since 1994 (only Whitey Ford and Dave Stewart are in the top 10 and didn't pitch into the wild card era (Dave Stewart ended his career in 1995 but didn't pitch in the postseason that year.  He's also died with about a billion others for 6th on the all-time shutout list with 2.

He is not top ten in ERA or WHIP or K9.

I'd rank tons of guys ahead of Schilling:  Rivera, Ruth, Koufax, Mathewson, Smoltz, Verlander, Clemens, Ford, and even Andy Petitte (I refuse to recognize a certain pitcher for a certain team in Northern California), to name just a handful.  Maybe Schilling cracks the top 10.

That said, if Mussina is in, Schilling should be too.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 25, 2019, 11:39:22 AM
Fuck Machado


That is all.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: axeman90210 on February 25, 2019, 12:15:55 PM
Red Sox

Tim, the only reason Mussina is getting in and Schilling isn’t is lib politics (no I’m not turning this into a pol/rel thread!). Schilling has expressed conservative views over the years and that’s a big no-no today. Curt was one of the 5 greatest post-season pitchers of all time. Baines election was a travesty, proven to be pure cronyism on the part of LaRussa et al.



I think "conservative views" is underselling it a little bit. He's compared Muslims to nazis, trafficked in absurd conspiracy theories about school shooting survivors being crisis actors, and promoted transphobia. If he spent his retirement espousing run of the mill conservative ideas then we wouldn't be having this conversation because he would already be in. He clearly warrants inclusion based on his talent/career, but part of me doesn't blame the Hall for being leery of having "professional baseball hall of famer" attached to the next headline he generates.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 25, 2019, 01:17:36 PM
I'm a Yankees fan, and a fan of Mike Mussina. Honestly, Moose is not a HOFer. I know he's in, but he shouldn't be. And neither should Schilling. Both of them are very good pitchers, particularly for their eras. But the Hall has been watered down so badly, it's not the Hall of Fame any longer. It's the Hall of Very Good.

Given THAT, if Moose is in, given the statistical comparisons, then Schilling should be in (although he can shove that bloody sock up his ass).

As for Schill's mouth and politics...I don't get into that shit. The guy was a fucking ace pitcher. I hated it when he was on the mound, as did most batters. He should be in, given today's watered down criteria (and Mattingly should be too, given who the Hall has put in recently - I honestly don't think Donnie baseball is Hall worthy, despite him being my favorite player...but the Hall is "Fame-light" these days, so why not).
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on February 28, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
Phillies get Harper for 13 years 330 million!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 28, 2019, 01:48:06 PM
Phillies get Harper for 13 years 330 million!

Harper is a superstar for sure....and I don't even mind the yearly Salary that he'd be getting.....but 13 years guaranteed is just dumb. Plus, have fun with those fans Bryce when you're in a two or three game slump.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 28, 2019, 01:49:43 PM
Dude has to have like five opt-outs in that deal. If he does't have at least a couple, he's dumb.

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on February 28, 2019, 02:06:48 PM
I'm sure Philly fans will be kind when he plays 87 games due to injury and bats .256 with 16 HR and 49 RBI's
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on February 28, 2019, 02:50:26 PM
Apparently that contract is iron clad. NO opt-outs, and a no-trade clause. Wow, dude must really love Philly.  :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on February 28, 2019, 03:25:38 PM
Dude has to have like five opt-outs in that deal. If he does't have at least a couple, he's dumb.

"Harper's deal includes a no-trade clause and has no opt-outs, league sources told ESPN, indicating that he is committed to the Phillies for possibly the rest of his career."  http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26105394/sources-phillies-finalizing-deal-harper

Absolutely insane.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on February 28, 2019, 07:18:14 PM
These Marlins ST jerseys are gorgeous in the sun.  In the right light they almost match their old teal color.  They need to wear these in the regular season.
(https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/ydqjey/picture226441165/alternates/FREE_1140/031MarlinsfirstsquadworkoutDS.JPG)

Their white uniforms need work though, not enough color.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on March 19, 2019, 09:03:59 AM
Mike Trout and Angels working on a monster extension. One less year and a hundred million more than Harper just got
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on March 19, 2019, 09:15:11 AM
Baseball contracts are so ridiculous.  This is just more proof of why they need a salary cap.

Trout is great, but what a waste. He will now spend his entire career on a team that has shown it is incapable of surrounding him with a team good enough to contend.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on March 19, 2019, 10:26:25 AM
Hey...did y'all know that the regular season starts tomorrow?

For real.  The Mariners and A's will be playing two regular season games in Tokyo on Wednesday and Thursday...at 2:35 a.m. Pacific time...when precisely no one will be watching.  The teams will then return to play a few more spring training games before the regular season begins for real...err...resumes next Thursday (and, in fact, the Mariners will play "split squad" spring training games on Thursday and Friday, likely becoming the first MLB team to play both a spring training game and regular season game on the same day).

Are there folks who really think this is a good idea?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on March 19, 2019, 11:40:25 AM
Hey...did y'all know that the regular season starts tomorrow?

For real.  The Mariners and A's will be playing two regular season games in Tokyo on Wednesday and Thursday...at 2:35 a.m. Pacific time...when precisely no one will be watching.  The teams will then return to play a few more spring training games before the regular season begins for real...err...resumes next Thursday (and, in fact, the Mariners will play "split squad" spring training games on Thursday and Friday, likely becoming the first MLB team to play both a spring training game and regular season game on the same day).

Are there folks who really think this is a good idea?

America's pastime, played in Japan. Stupid.

Obviously the only people who think this is a good idea are those who ok'd it. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on March 19, 2019, 12:52:14 PM
Hey...did y'all know that the regular season starts tomorrow?

For real.  The Mariners and A's will be playing two regular season games in Tokyo on Wednesday and Thursday...at 2:35 a.m. Pacific time...when precisely no one will be watching.  The teams will then return to play a few more spring training games before the regular season begins for real...err...resumes next Thursday (and, in fact, the Mariners will play "split squad" spring training games on Thursday and Friday, likely becoming the first MLB team to play both a spring training game and regular season game on the same day).

Are there folks who really think this is a good idea?

America's pastime, played in Japan. Stupid.

Obviously the only people who think this is a good idea are those who ok'd it.

I sort of understood when they shipped the Dodgers and Diamondbacks to Australia a few years ago.  They want to develop interest in a country where baseball isn't a big deal.  Whether that trip accomplished anything, I don't know, but I can at least understand it.  But baseball is huge in Japan.  Japan has its own major professional league, and teams of MLB players play exhibition games in Japan every year or almost every year.  Sending teams to Japan makes no sense at all to me.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 19, 2019, 01:11:38 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on the Red Sox / Yankees games being played in London?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on March 19, 2019, 01:20:46 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on the Red Sox / Yankees games being played in London?

the same as any Red Sox/Yankees game.....don't care.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 19, 2019, 01:43:26 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on the Red Sox / Yankees games being played in London?

the same as any Red Sox/Yankees game.....don't care.  :laugh:

 :flame:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on March 19, 2019, 03:49:37 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on the Red Sox / Yankees games being played in London?

It makes some amount of sense in that playing high profile games in a non-baseball country might help grow the sport (although I can't really see England becoming a baseball hotbed).  It's also not as bad as going to Japan or Australia; the travel time won't be much longer than a trip to Los Angeles or Seattle.  On the other hand, it's smack in the middle of the season, although each team has two days off before and after the series (the Sox will be in Boston before and in Toronto after the series, and the Yankees will be in Toronto before and at the Mets after the series).  If I were a Sox fan who regularly attended games, I wouldn't be thrilled about losing two home games against the team's biggest rival, and I don't think I'd be thrilled about it if I were a player.  All and all, not as bad as shipping a couple of teams to Japan during spring training, but I can't see that there's much of an upside to it.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on March 19, 2019, 04:09:34 PM
One of the biggest rivalries that brings the show overseas and I'm ok with it.  Especially since it seems to be on again with last years playoffs and the offseason the Yankees had.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 19, 2019, 05:31:47 PM
My gf's dad is actually flying out for one of the London games. And my gf and her dad are going to opening day at Fenway next month. The jealousy is real.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 21, 2019, 06:40:29 PM
Goldschmidt and Cardinals agree on extension. (5) years, $130 million. Great deal for both sides.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on March 28, 2019, 08:30:13 AM
Happy Opening Day everyone!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 28, 2019, 08:57:51 AM
Happy Opening Day everyone!

To you as well. Looking forward to the games!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on March 28, 2019, 10:55:52 AM
Happy Opening Day everyone!

To you as well. Looking forward to the games!

Likewise, but...

Opening day is, for me, a total non-event.  Dealing with parking and traffic in and out of Dodger Stadium is bad enough for a normal game, but it's such a nightmare on opening day, which always seems to be a day game.  Not this year, but it's often 90 degrees at game time, which I guess is preferable to what's happening in Chicago and some other cities at this time of year, but it's pretty miserable.  I went to an opening day around 20 years ago, and it kinda sucked, and you would be hard pressed to pay me enough to go to another one.  Also, because it's a day game, I find myself not paying attention.  And, of course, it's only 1 of 162 games.

What I'm really looking forward to is the return of Heidi Watney and Quick Pitch on the MLB Network.  Hopefully she'll be back full-time this year.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on March 28, 2019, 11:07:51 AM
Sure to be wrong predictions

AL East - 1. Boston 2. New York 3. Toronto 4. Tampa Bay 5. Baltimore
AL Central - 1. Minnesota 2. Cleveland 3. Chicago 4. Detroit 5. Kansas City
AL West - 1. Houston 2. Oakland 3. Seattle 4. L.A. 5. Texas

NL East - 1. Atlanta 2. Philadelphia 3. Washington 4. New York 5. Miami
NL Central - 1. St. Louis 2. Milwaukee 3. Chicago 4. Cincinnati 5. Pittsburgh
NL West - 1. L.A. 2. Colorado 3. San Diego 4. San Francisco 5. Arizona

World Series - Houston over St. Louis
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on March 28, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
Yankees 1-0!

Nice stomping of the Birds.  :metal

I'll play along:

AL East - 1. NYY 2. Boston 3. Toronto 4. Tampa Bay 5. Baltimore
AL Central - 1. Cleveland 2. Detroit 3. Chicago 4. Minnesota 5. Kansas City
AL West - 1. Houston 2. Oakland 3. Texas 4. L.A. 5. Seattle

NL East - 1. Atlanta 2. Philadelphia 3. NYM 4. Washington 5. Miami
NL Central - 1. Chicago 2. St. Louis 3. Milwaukee 4. Cincinnati 5. Pittsburgh
NL West - 1. L.A. 2. Colorado 3. San Diego 4. Arizona 5. SFG

World Series - Yankees over Cubs
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on March 28, 2019, 02:59:57 PM
Just a ho-hum opener for the Brewers....

Yelich 3-run bomb.
Starting pitcher hits a HR.
Lorenzo Cain takes away a game tying HR for the final out.

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on March 28, 2019, 04:08:36 PM
Bryce Harper is, at the moment, 0-3 with 2K.  The Phillies are up big, so maybe the boo-birds in Philly will give him a pass today.

Speaking of being up big, the Dodgers are pounding the Diamondbacks 7-1.  I heard the first couple innings while I was at lunch.  Dodger batters forced Zack Greinke to throw 30 pitches in the first inning and chased him after only 3.2 innings.  Meanwhile, Hyun Jin Ryu is through 6 with only 82 pitches and the only blemish being a solo HR by Adam Jones.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on March 28, 2019, 04:18:20 PM
Phillies offense is gonna be exciting this year!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on March 28, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
Dodgers with 8 HR's!!! New OD record

I said I wasn't going to be a Marlins fan but dammit those colors are too good in the light.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on March 29, 2019, 11:07:45 AM
Wow, Trout narrowly avoided an injury in the first game after signing for 430mil.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on March 30, 2019, 09:10:19 AM
Paul Goldschmidt ended the Brewers perfect season by hitting 3 HR's Friday night.

Maybe next year.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on March 30, 2019, 10:04:49 AM
Just watched the show on MLB Network where Billy Ripkin spends time with big league coaches for a day in Spring Training. Holy shit was that an fantastic show. The segment with Ron Washington was particularly awesome

I'm sure they'll repeat it but if you get a chance to watch it, you really should.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 30, 2019, 11:09:29 AM
That Red Sox / Mariners game tho
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on March 31, 2019, 04:43:30 PM
Red Sox starting pitching is hot garbage so far in 2019.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on March 31, 2019, 04:44:03 PM
Red Sox starting pitching is hot garbage so far in 2019.

Holy shit that is no lie.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on March 31, 2019, 04:54:04 PM
Major hangover.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on March 31, 2019, 04:58:16 PM
Major hangover.

It's just the starters though.

The offense and bullpen has been fine.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on March 31, 2019, 06:44:40 PM
Yelich has homered in the Brewers first four games.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on March 31, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
Yelich is off to a fantastic start.


Phillies start the season 3-0 by sweeping the defending division champs. Up next... Harper's return to D.C.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: orcus116 on March 31, 2019, 08:45:45 PM
Derek Jeter gift basket
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on April 01, 2019, 11:49:20 AM
The Dodgers scored 42 runs in the opening 4-game series against Arizona.  That's as many runs as the other two division leaders in the NL (PHI and MIL) scored in their combined seven games.

The bad news is that the Dodgers gave up 22 runs in the four games, although many of those came in garbage time.

Now it's time to lay some wood to the stinking Giants.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on April 01, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
The Dodgers scored 42 runs in the opening 4-game series against Arizona.  That's as many runs as the other two division leaders in the NL (PHI and MIL) scored in their combined seven games.

The bad news is that the Dodgers gave up 22 runs in the four games, although many of those came in garbage time.

Now it's time to lay some wood to the stinking Giants.

Most runs scored in the first four games of a season since 1954.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on April 02, 2019, 05:33:39 PM
Harper returns to DC. This is interesting.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on April 03, 2019, 10:35:42 AM
Dodgers starters have allowed 11 earned runs over 33 innings in 6 games (3.00 ERA).

Dodgers relievers have allowed 22 earned runs over 21 innings (9.43 ERA).

Kenley Jansen, who was good in his first two outings of the season, was very shaky last night.  Although he got the save and gave up no earned runs, he allowed two inherited runners to score and gave up an unearned run that was only unearned because he was charged with an error (although I thought the error should have gone to Max Muncy).

Gonna be a long year if this doesn't get fixed ASAP.

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on April 07, 2019, 05:55:24 PM
A Bosox starter didn’t allow a run! Who had that in bingo?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on April 08, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
They ran a graphic during Sunday night baseball yesterday that the Dodgers have scored more runs through 10 games than any team in history other than the 1999 Yankees and some team from back in the 1930s.

And Cody Bellinger is out of his mind right now!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on April 10, 2019, 12:15:04 PM
I'd like to congratulate the Red Sox on a 3-9 start to the 2019 season. Well deserved.   :heart

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on April 11, 2019, 06:14:51 AM
I'd like to congratulate the Red Sox on a 3-9 start to the 2019 season. Well deserved.   :heart

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Deserved because? Because they were better than the Yankees last year?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on April 11, 2019, 06:18:53 AM
I'd be alright with my team starting 3-39 if they had a year like the Red Sox had last year.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on April 11, 2019, 09:02:50 AM
I'd like to congratulate the Red Sox on a 3-9 start to the 2019 season. Well deserved.   :heart

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Deserved because? Because they were better than the Yankees last year?

 :lol

Got a long way to catch up to 27. And the Sox's farm system is drier than the Sahara. Good luck.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on April 11, 2019, 11:37:52 AM
I'd like to congratulate the Red Sox on a 3-9 start to the 2019 season. Well deserved.   :heart

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Deserved because? Because they were better than the Yankees last year?

 :lol

Got a long way to catch up to 27. And the Sox's farm system is drier than the Sahara. Good luck.

Didn't answer the "deserved" part unless that crack about the farm system was supposed to be it?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on April 11, 2019, 12:17:14 PM
Because as a Yankees fan, the Red Sox can go F themselves. That's why.

All in good fun. A lot of my closest friends are Red Sox diehards.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 12, 2019, 09:51:49 AM
That Sox / BJ's game last night tho....

My GF was there. So jelly.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on April 12, 2019, 11:32:38 AM
Gonna be at Fenway in a couple weeks!

Second time for me.  Anyone wanna recommend a nearby restaurant for dinner before the game.  Keep in mind that I'll have my 15yo daughter with me.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on April 12, 2019, 12:45:32 PM
Gonna be at Fenway in a couple weeks!

Second time for me.  Anyone wanna recommend a nearby restaurant for dinner before the game.  Keep in mind that I'll have my 15yo daughter with me.

Boston Beer Works right across the street.

We've been there with my kids plenty of times (they're teens).
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on April 12, 2019, 12:51:33 PM
Damn someone break up the Mariners! Let's end the current longest streak of not making the playoffs in the 4 major sports!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on April 12, 2019, 01:08:11 PM
Gonna be at Fenway in a couple weeks!

Second time for me.  Anyone wanna recommend a nearby restaurant for dinner before the game.  Keep in mind that I'll have my 15yo daughter with me.

Boston Beer Works right across the street.

We've been there with my kids plenty of times (they're teens).

 :tup :tup
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on May 22, 2019, 10:53:30 PM
The Marlins have won 5 straight and are no longer the worst team in baseball.  Their fans are going nuts! haha
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on May 23, 2019, 10:04:10 AM
The Marlins have won 5 straight and are no longer the worst team in baseball.  Their fan is going nuts! haha

ftfy
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on May 28, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
Cody Bellinger is a mother-f-ing STUD!

In yesterday's game, he gunned a runner at the plate on a slow roller to right field.

He then hit a dinger.

And then, when the bullpen had put what seemed to be a blowout lead into jeopardy, Bellinger threw out a runner at 3rd from deep right field (on the fly).  This happened with one out, so the play ended the inning.  More remarkably, the out at third occurred before the runner who had tagged at third and was trying to score crossed the plate, so the run didn't count.  If you haven't seen this play, check it out.

Bellinger is now hitting .383, with a 1.229 OPS, 19 HRs, 49 RBI and 48 runs scored.

Dude is flat out ridiculous!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on May 28, 2019, 05:08:30 PM
Damn someone break up the Mariners! Let's end the current longest streak of not making the playoffs in the 4 major sports!

Gee thanks for listening, baseball gods. It's so much more comfortable being in the basement where we belong.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on May 28, 2019, 10:29:09 PM
Cody Bellinger is a mother-f-ing STUD!

In yesterday's game, he gunned a runner at the plate on a slow roller to right field.

He then hit a dinger.

And then, when the bullpen had put what seemed to be a blowout lead into jeopardy, Bellinger threw out a runner at 3rd from deep right field (on the fly).  This happened with one out, so the play ended the inning.  More remarkably, the out at third occurred before the runner who had tagged at third and was trying to score crossed the plate, so the run didn't count.  If you haven't seen this play, check it out.

Bellinger is now hitting .383, with a 1.229 OPS, 19 HRs, 49 RBI and 48 runs scored.

Dude is flat out ridiculous!

YES.  If only we had a functional pen. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on May 29, 2019, 10:15:38 AM
Cody Bellinger is a mother-f-ing STUD!

In yesterday's game, he gunned a runner at the plate on a slow roller to right field.

He then hit a dinger.

And then, when the bullpen had put what seemed to be a blowout lead into jeopardy, Bellinger threw out a runner at 3rd from deep right field (on the fly).  This happened with one out, so the play ended the inning.  More remarkably, the out at third occurred before the runner who had tagged at third and was trying to score crossed the plate, so the run didn't count.  If you haven't seen this play, check it out.

Bellinger is now hitting .383, with a 1.229 OPS, 19 HRs, 49 RBI and 48 runs scored.

Dude is flat out ridiculous!

YES.  If only we had a functional pen.

Well...yeah, but even at that, the Dodgers 36-19, so....

Also, Craig Kimbrel anyone?!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on May 30, 2019, 12:35:14 AM
Thankfully our bats are good enough to get those wins, like tonight!!!  Down 8-3, win 9-8 with 4 runs in the 9th!!!  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on May 30, 2019, 09:59:28 AM
Thankfully our bats are good enough to get those wins, like tonight!!!  Down 8-3, win 9-8 with 4 runs in the 9th!!!  :metal :metal :metal

I turned it off after the first HR Urias gave up and went to watch something else with my wife.  When she went to sleep, I flipped to MLB Network and say that it was 8-6 with no outs in the 9th.  I then flipped over to the Dodgers channel and learned that the MLBN "live look-in" was a few minutes delayed, and it was actually 8-7.  I got to see the tying and winning runs score.

That was EPIC!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2019, 05:47:46 PM
I like Bumgarner, but I just saw the exchange with Muncy after the homer. MadBum, don't be such a pussy.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on June 09, 2019, 07:40:53 PM
I like Bumgarner, but I just saw the exchange with Muncy after the homer. MadBum, don't be such a pussy.

Seriously.  So he watched his ball fly.  Big deal.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2019, 07:44:07 PM
It wasn't even that bad, honestly. I thought after seeing the headline that it would be much worse.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 10, 2019, 09:16:01 AM
Big Papi was shot

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/david-ortiz-red-sox-shot/index.html
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Samsara on June 10, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
Awful. Hope he recovers quickly.

Although he should have had security with him. There are a ton of stories of MLB players being targeted in the Dominican, Latin America, etc., because of their fame and wealth. I don't know who he was with, but based on the article, it didn't seem like he had any bodyguards around him, and that was a huge mistake on his part.

Again, best wishes to him on a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on June 10, 2019, 10:18:00 AM
I like Bumgarner, but I just saw the exchange with Muncy after the homer. MadBum, don't be such a pussy.

Seriously.  So he watched his ball fly.  Big deal.

Muncy barely even watched the ball.  I can't remember the last guy who was as big a douchenozzle as Bumgarner.

According to Muncy, the exchange after the homer was something like the following:

MB:  Don't watch it.  Just run.
MM:  If you don't want me to watch it, go fish it out of the ocean.

Pure gold!!!  If the Dodgers marketing department has any sense, they'll make 50,000 t-shirts and distribute them next time Bumgarner pitches against the Dodgers in LA.

This article is great:  https://deadspin.com/madison-bumgarner-gets-roasted-to-hell-by-max-muncy-for-1835362515
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on June 10, 2019, 12:47:24 PM
Big Papi was shot

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/david-ortiz-red-sox-shot/index.html

Stay classy Yankee fans!

Jokes aside, did anyone see the footage of the beating one of the suspects took in the street? Bad idea to shoot a national hero in public.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on June 18, 2019, 07:43:59 PM
Loved Matt Carpenter's bunt for a double against the shift last night! :metal
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on June 19, 2019, 09:32:28 AM
Loved Matt Carpenter's bunt for a double against the shift last night! :metal

I didn't see it, but I love it just based on that description!  Really hope more guys learn how to do stuff like this.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on June 19, 2019, 06:38:49 PM
I wouldn't believe a single fucking word coming out of the Dominican press conference today regarding the Ortiz shooting.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on June 20, 2019, 07:55:21 PM


Pure gold!!!  If the Dodgers marketing department has any sense, they'll make 50,000 t-shirts and distribute them next time Bumgarner pitches against the Dodgers in LA.


The Dodgers didn't, but they didn't have to.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dodgers+get+it+out+of+the+ocean+shirt&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL-IyCuvniAhWTIDQIHe4IDQ8QsxgILQ&biw=1600&bih=736

The interwebs was buzzin about the Rays exploring a "split season" between TB and Montreal, however the city of St. Pete probably won't let them do it.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on June 21, 2019, 10:09:19 AM


Pure gold!!!  If the Dodgers marketing department has any sense, they'll make 50,000 t-shirts and distribute them next time Bumgarner pitches against the Dodgers in LA.


The Dodgers didn't, but they didn't have to.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dodgers+get+it+out+of+the+ocean+shirt&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL-IyCuvniAhWTIDQIHe4IDQ8QsxgILQ&biw=1600&bih=736

Yup.  I got mine, AND Muncy wore one during batting practice at least once or twice.  Doesn't look like anything happened during yesterday's game, and Bumgarner will be in another uniform soon, so this is probably the last we'll hear of this.


The interwebs was buzzin about the Rays exploring a "split season" between TB and Montreal, however the city of St. Pete probably won't let them do it.

When does the team's lease at its current facility expire?  The team is averaging somewhere in the neighborhood of 14,000 per game and can barely manage 25,000 with the Yankees in town.  All this despite being in or within striking distance of first place all season.  If St. Pete wants to keep the team, then St. Pete should support the team.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: lordxizor on June 21, 2019, 10:48:33 AM
The interwebs was buzzin about the Rays exploring a "split season" between TB and Montreal, however the city of St. Pete probably won't let them do it.

When does the team's lease at its current facility expire?  The team is averaging somewhere in the neighborhood of 14,000 per game and can barely manage 25,000 with the Yankees in town.  All this despite being in or within striking distance of first place all season.  If St. Pete wants to keep the team, then St. Pete should support the team.
I read this morning that the current lease goes through 2027, so they're going nowhere soon. Mayor has already said no way they're letting them out of the lease.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on June 22, 2019, 01:14:11 AM
Bumgarner will be in another uniform soon, so this is probably the last we'll hear of this.


There's been mention of him going to the Dodgers!  :lol DRAMA BOMB :corn
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 22, 2019, 08:37:24 AM
If I cared about baseball at all anymore, that moment with Pujols last night in his return to St. Louis would have been awesome, but my love for baseball is all but totally gone. :( :(
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on June 22, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
the Brewers pitching staff is a mess.

also, Yelich is pretty good.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 22, 2019, 10:16:53 AM
If I cared about baseball at all anymore, that moment with Pujols last night in his return to St. Louis would have been awesome, but my love for baseball is all but totally gone. :( :(

Yep. You and me both. How the tides have changed now that the media in St. Louis are begging the Cardinal ownership to take notice of how the Blues have ran their team.

Trading/getting rid of popular players in order to improve themselves....making daring moves to improve. The Cardinals ownership group has habitually taken advantage of this fan base by just playing middle of the road baseball and middle of the road tactics when it comes to building a team. I think the fan base is finally getting sick of it.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on June 22, 2019, 10:33:45 AM
Marlins fans are saying the same thing.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on June 24, 2019, 11:39:19 AM
Bumgarner will be in another uniform soon, so this is probably the last we'll hear of this.


There's been mention of him going to the Dodgers!  :lol DRAMA BOMB :corn

I can't see that happening.  We don't need him, and other teams are guaranteed to be willing to give up more than the Dodgers would.


If I cared about baseball at all anymore, that moment with Pujols last night in his return to St. Louis would have been awesome, but my love for baseball is all but totally gone. :( :(

It was a cool moment, but it seemed like it totally got overblown by the end of the series with Pujols and Molina slobbering over each other and exchanging jerseys.  The other thing that kinda ruined it for me was when they showed the highlights on MLB Network and they put up someone's tweet in the corner of the screen about how the STL fans giving Pujols a standing ovation demonstrated that STL fans are the best fans in baseball.  That dialog is so overblown and a bunch of nonsense.  There isn't an MLB city in which Pujols wouldn't have gotten exactly the same reception.


On another note:  The Dodgers swept the Rockies on three consecutive walk-off homers - all by rookies.  Best record in baseball and a 13 game lead in the division!!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 24, 2019, 04:31:20 PM
Pujols and Molina are as good a friends as you will find in MLB, so all of their interactions this weekend were authentic and cool to see.

As for the "best fans in baseball" stuff, Cardinals fans have a long-standing great rep for a reason.  I am not saying we are the best fans in baseball, just that it's a well-earned compliment.  There obviously is no way to measure that kind of thing. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on June 25, 2019, 10:31:39 PM
Y'all see two different girls ran after the Dodgers' Bellinger for hugs while he was on the field? It's Belli-mania!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 26, 2019, 03:35:42 PM
Y'all see two different girls ran after the Dodgers' Bellinger for hugs while he was on the field? It's Belli-mania!

That's creepy and criminal. It is never okay to run on to the field to do anything.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on June 26, 2019, 03:40:02 PM
Y'all see two different girls ran after the Dodgers' Bellinger for hugs while he was on the field? It's Belli-mania!

That's creepy and criminal. It is never okay to run on to the field to do anything.

Right?!  Just ask Tom Gamboa.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 29, 2019, 11:30:57 AM
Anyone else watching the London game?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on June 29, 2019, 07:24:33 PM
Anyone else watching the London game?

Yea I watched the beginning of it, that was crazy.  It's fun with that many fans, a lot of them got foul balls or home runs.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on June 29, 2019, 08:40:09 PM
Anyone else watching the London game?

I watched the first couple innings and then bits and pieces after that.  The first inning was just awful, and the score indicates things didn't get much better.  Terrible example of baseball.  Hope the pitching shows better tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on July 06, 2019, 07:09:29 PM
https://youtu.be/MLHHlIyWIVo?t=399

Classic Earl Weaver!  :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 07, 2019, 12:29:30 AM
The National League's starting outfield for the ASG -- Bellinger, Yelich and Acuna -- is the youngest starting outfield since Aaron, Mays and Frank Robinson in 1957.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on July 08, 2019, 06:10:50 PM
The National League's starting outfield for the ASG -- Bellinger, Yelich and Acuna -- is the youngest starting outfield since Aaron, Mays and Frank Robinson in 1957.

Cool piece of trivia. That ‘57 outfield combined for a cool 2,001 career homers.  :o
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on July 12, 2019, 08:22:18 PM
Real nice ceremony for Tyler Skaggs before the Angels game tonight.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on July 12, 2019, 11:39:52 PM
What an incredible performance by the Angels tonight.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2019, 06:59:56 AM
Oh shit, a combined no hitter! WOW!!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on July 13, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
So I'm watching the Angels/M's game tonight (because the Sox are getting their ass kicked) and Pujols comes up and the graphic says that
he is 18th on the all time hit list. At #17 is someone called Paul Waner.

Now I am 50 years old, and have followed baseball pretty damn closely for 40 of those years. I don't think I have ever heard of Paul Waner.  :facepalm: :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2019, 05:22:48 PM
Watching the Sox/Dodgers on ESPN. Can A-Rod and Jessica STFU!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: romdrums on July 15, 2019, 07:58:51 AM
So I'm watching the Angels/M's game tonight (because the Sox are getting their ass kicked) and Pujols comes up and the graphic says that
he is 18th on the all time hit list. At #17 is someone called Paul Waner.

Now I am 50 years old, and have followed baseball pretty damn closely for 40 of those years. I don't think I have ever heard of Paul Waner.  :facepalm: :lol

I just checked his stats on Baseball-Reference.com and he was a legit hitter.  Not a home run guy by any means, but he retired with a .333 career batting average and 605 doubles and 191 triples.  In 15 seasons with the Pirates (that may be why you had never heard of him), he averaged .340 and somehow drove in 131 runs in his second season while hitting only 9 home runs.  And, he hit 40 triples in his first two years.  In 1927, his Pirates team hit 54 home runs, 6 less than Babe Ruth in that same season.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 15, 2019, 01:10:48 PM
Watching the Sox/Dodgers on ESPN. Can A-Rod and Jessica STFU!

I thought the booth with Aaron Boone and Jessica Mendoza was really good.  When Mr. J-Lo showed up, it became unbearable (even though I like Matt Vasgersian).  The most annoying thing was that they had a whole row of Green Monster seats going to waste for J-Lo and kid.


So I'm watching the Angels/M's game tonight (because the Sox are getting their ass kicked) and Pujols comes up and the graphic says that
he is 18th on the all time hit list. At #17 is someone called Paul Waner.

Now I am 50 years old, and have followed baseball pretty damn closely for 40 of those years. I don't think I have ever heard of Paul Waner.  :facepalm: :lol

I know who he is, but I'm really big into baseball history.  For obvious reasons, he doesn't get the pub of his contemporaries, Ruth, Gehrig, Greenberg, etc.

The interesting thing about the all-time hits list for me is that there are on seven "active" players with more than 2,000 hits (I have "active" in quotation marks because Jose Reyes, Matt Holliday and Brandon Phillips are still listed as active despite being unlikely ever to play another MLB game).

Pujols has 3,143, Miguel Cabrera has 2,762, Robinson Cano has 2,528, and Nick Markakis has 2,329.  Cabrera might make it to 3,000, but Cano and Markakis won't, which means that (other than Cabrera), it'll be the better part of another decade before someone else hits the 3,000 hit mark.

The top five guys on the list under age 30 are

Starlin Castro - 1,536
Jose Altuve - 1,483
Eric Hosmer - 1,390
Freddie Freeman - 1,386
Mike Trout - 1,282

All of these guys are 29, except Trout, who's 27; all are in their 9th year, except Freeman, who's in his 10th.  I found an article from May 2018 that predicted Altuve will hit the 3,000 hit mark in 2028 and that Trout will do it the following season.  Seems reasonable to me.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on July 27, 2019, 07:25:45 PM
I have to say that I have a lot of respect for Aaron Judge.

I was telling my son, and I described him as it's basically Gronk playing baseball. Except, Judge carries himself respectfully and humbly, whereas Gronk carries on like a jack ass.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on July 27, 2019, 09:03:07 PM
The Brewers may have the next great hitter in baseball in Keston Hiura.

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 29, 2019, 11:31:19 AM
The Brewers Dodgers may have the next great hitter in baseball.

(https://www.dodgersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/GettyImages-1157857499.jpg)

or

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/l76p9Eyz5nRrrwj3A5Hz0r-tjDI=/0x0:2948x2168/1200x800/filters:focal(1049x44:1519x514)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/64062908/usa_today_12899664.0.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on July 29, 2019, 11:47:19 AM
The Brewers Dodgers may have the next great hitter in baseball.

(https://www.dodgersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/GettyImages-1157857499.jpg)

or

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/l76p9Eyz5nRrrwj3A5Hz0r-tjDI=/0x0:2948x2168/1200x800/filters:focal(1049x44:1519x514)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/64062908/usa_today_12899664.0.jpg)

neither of those are Gavin Lux.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 29, 2019, 11:59:44 AM
neither of those are Gavin Lux.

Indeed, but lots of guys mash at AAA.  Will Smith has homered in 1/8 of his MLB at-bats, including a walk-off and had 6 RBI after being called up a few days ago.  Beaty has been clutch AF.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on July 29, 2019, 12:09:58 PM
I feel confident Hiura will be a better hitter than either of them.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 29, 2019, 12:25:41 PM
Based on what they've done so far, it's hard to argue against any of them.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: romdrums on July 31, 2019, 08:13:39 AM
I love the haul the Indians got for Trevor Bauer yesterday.

https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds (https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds)

Puig is a solid rental and Reyes is under team control for 3 more years.  Indians did a heck of a job in lengthening their window of contention.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on July 31, 2019, 11:43:59 AM
I love the haul the Indians got for Trevor Bauer yesterday.

https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds (https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds)

Puig is a solid rental and Reyes is under team control for 3 more years.  Indians did a heck of a job in lengthening their window of contention.

Not sure how I feel about this.  I have a bet with a guy at work that Puig will hit more homers this season than Bryce Harper.  In part, I made that bet based on Puig playing in Cincinnati, but I'm concerned about his playing time and also whether Jacob's Field is is as conducive to homers as is the Reds' stadium.  So far, Puig is up 22-18, but it'd suck of this trade causes Puig to have a less than stellar last third of the season.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: romdrums on July 31, 2019, 01:04:25 PM
I love the haul the Indians got for Trevor Bauer yesterday.

https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds (https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds)

Puig is a solid rental and Reyes is under team control for 3 more years.  Indians did a heck of a job in lengthening their window of contention.

Not sure how I feel about this.  I have a bet with a guy at work that Puig will hit more homers this season than Bryce Harper.  In part, I made that bet based on Puig playing in Cincinnati, but I'm concerned about his playing time and also whether Jacob's Field is is as conducive to homers as is the Reds' stadium.  So far, Puig is up 22-18, but it'd suck of this trade causes Puig to have a less than stellar last third of the season.

The Jake is a hitter's park.  Not quite the bandbox that Great American Ballpark is, but it's still hitter friendly.  Puig should do well there.  Remember, Albert Belle and Manny Ramirez used to mash there back in the day.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on July 31, 2019, 10:57:23 PM
Dodgers needed relief pitching and got mostly infielders.  Wow.  I understand not wanting to give up big names or good prospects, but come on man, that's weak.  So much for a world series win this year. We'll be lucky to even get there.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TempusVox on July 31, 2019, 11:04:30 PM
I love the haul the Indians got for Trevor Bauer yesterday.

https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds (https://www.mlb.com/news/trevor-bauer-trade-reds)

Puig is a solid rental and Reyes is under team control for 3 more years.  Indians did a heck of a job in lengthening their window of contention.

Not sure how I feel about this.  I have a bet with a guy at work that Puig will hit more homers this season than Bryce Harper.  In part, I made that bet based on Puig playing in Cincinnati, but I'm concerned about his playing time and also whether Jacob's Field is is as conducive to homers as is the Reds' stadium.  So far, Puig is up 22-18, but it'd suck of this trade causes Puig to have a less than stellar last third of the season.

The Jake is a hitter's park.  Not quite the bandbox that Great American Ballpark is, but it's still hitter friendly.  Puig should do well there.  Remember, Albert Belle and Manny Ramirez used to mash there back in the day.

As a Reds STH, I'm not that happy with this on the surface. Granted, the Reds are trying to extend Woods, and with Bauer, Castillo, and Gray in the rotation next year that staff will be pretty damn formidable. But Puig fell in nicely here with the city, and in the clubhouse. My son was at the game last night, and when the brawl broke out and he stood up for his teammates, he said several Pirates players were yelling at him to calm down as he'd just been traded. Puig yelled back, "I don't give a fuck. Today, I'm a Cincinnati Red, and I wear this uniform and this is my team. Fuck you!"

 Gotta love that attitude. Hate to see him go. 

But he was going to be a rental anyway.

Besides, the Reds tried to make a play for Bauer last winter, but the Indians wanted 2 of our top 3 prospects at the time.

I'm sure Bauers passion will play here well too.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 01, 2019, 10:32:34 AM
Dodgers needed relief pitching and got mostly infielders.  Wow.  I understand not wanting to give up big names or good prospects, but come on man, that's weak.  So much for a world series win this year. We'll be lucky to even get there.

Some guy got on the Petros & Money Show yesterday and blasted the Dodgers for being so unwilling to trade prospects.  He said something like, "Great!  The Dodgers will once again win the World Series of prospects!"

That's a misguided point of view.  In 2017, we traded Willie Calhoun (who was talked about the same way as Alex Verdugo) as part of the package to get Yu Darvish.  While that trade obviously didn't work out in the end, it was a universally hailed move at the time it was made.

From what I heard, the Dodgers were willing to trade Ruiz (the catching prospect) but weren't willing to trade Gavin Lux (SS) or Dustin May (P).  I'm ok with that, mostly because there was no big name that changed teams.  Trevor Bauer and Zack Grienke being the two biggest names, and I wouldn't have wanted either of them.  Do we need relief help?  Yeah, but we did get a reliever (Adam Kolarek).  I've never heard of him, but who knows.  And it's not like the Pirates traded Vasquez to someone else.

I don't see anyone in the NL challenging the Dodgers this year.  The Brewers could, but they're down from last year.  The Astros and Yankees are the class of the AL, so this reminds me of 2017, and I think if the 2019 Dodgers had played in the 2017 WS, they win.  Hope springs eternal.


But Puig fell in nicely here with the city, and in the clubhouse. My son was at the game last night, and when the brawl broke out and he stood up for his teammates, he said several Pirates players were yelling at him to calm down as he'd just been traded. Puig yelled back, "I don't give a fuck. Today, I'm a Cincinnati Red, and I wear this uniform and this is my team. Fuck you!"

 Gotta love that attitude. Hate to see him go.

Sounds about right.  He had a real nice tweet to the people of Cincinnati and his teammates yesterday.  I would not have been at all sad if he had stayed in LA.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on August 01, 2019, 12:03:15 PM
Adding Greinke to a rotation with Verlander and Cole almost seems unfair to the rest of the AL West  :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 01, 2019, 12:37:59 PM
So...

What is everyone's opinion on bench clearing brawls in Baseball?


Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: romdrums on August 01, 2019, 01:13:13 PM
Largely pointless.  I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw a stat that said the Pirates have the most bench clearing incidents since 2015 or something like that.  The Indians had the fewest.  Speaking of the Pirates, that was the second bench clearing incident between them and the Reds this year.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 01, 2019, 01:17:09 PM
So...

What is everyone's opinion on bench clearing brawls in Baseball?

I won't say I don't occasionally find them interesting, but my position for a while has been as follows:

1. Charge the mound (as a batter) or leave the mound (as a pitcher) for the purpose of fighting and you get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.
2. Leave your defensive position for the purpose of becoming involved in a brawl and get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.
3. Leave the dugout or bullpen for the purpose of becoming involved in a brawl and get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.

Can't field a team tomorrow because your whole active roster got suspended?  Too bad.  These "brawls" where everyone feels some sort of compulsion to jog in from the bullpen, etc. are an utter waste of time.  If the pitcher and batter want to duke it out, let 'em.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on August 01, 2019, 06:57:09 PM
Several times the Dodgers defense saved Jansen's ass.  Several times he was a base hit or HR away from a blown save.  Yes a win is a win, but I doubt they will get that lucky against a playoff team.  But then they could come in and blow dudes away.  That's the problem.  You never know what the pen's gonna do each game.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 02, 2019, 02:41:30 PM
A couple months ago, a guy at my office brought in a box from his garage with a bunch of old (70s to 80s) baseball cards.  Nothing apparently special, but earlier this week, he dug through it and found an unopened pack of Topps 1975 cards.  I did some googling and found that he probably could sell it for maybe $50 but that some cards in the 1975 set were worth a lot of money (in particular, George Brett and Robin Yount rookie cards), so someone else here was saying that he should open it.

Today, they came into my office and said that, if I agreed to eat the gum, I could open it.  Mind you that I wasn't advocating either way.  Nevertheless, I agreed.  The card with the most apparent value is the Cubs team card.  The gum was about what you'd expect.  It had already broken into several pieces, and it was a lot like chewing chalk.  After about a minute, I spit it out in the trash can and was left with a slightly dirty feel in my mouth until I had lunch.

Just in case y'all were wondering what 44 year old baseball card pack gum tastes like!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: PowerSlave on August 11, 2019, 07:24:59 PM
I went to Cincinnati to see the Cubs play today. It's been a long time since I've been to a pro sporting event of any kind, and I had a great time. Kris Bryant hit a 3 run homer in the later inning to put the Cubs into the lead. Seeing a player with that sweet of a stroke hit a long ball on tv is one thing, but seeing it in person is on a whole different level.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: romdrums on August 12, 2019, 12:23:05 PM
That was a great weekend from the Indians.  Went into Minnesota 2 games down and took 3 of 4 to end the weekend tied for first in the AL Central.  Twins had an 11.5 game lead on June 3rd, and the Indians have won 47 of 59 games in that time span, with their number 1 and number 1.A starters sidelined for all of that run.  Shane Bieber and Mike Clevinger have stepped up in a big way, and Zack Plesac and Aaron Civale look like the latest gems in the current run of Indians' starting pitching.  The stretch run is going to be sweet!

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on August 13, 2019, 11:28:33 PM
So...

What is everyone's opinion on bench clearing brawls in Baseball?

I won't say I don't occasionally find them interesting, but my position for a while has been as follows:

1. Charge the mound (as a batter) or leave the mound (as a pitcher) for the purpose of fighting and you get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.
2. Leave your defensive position for the purpose of becoming involved in a brawl and get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.
3. Leave the dugout or bullpen for the purpose of becoming involved in a brawl and get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.

Can't field a team tomorrow because your whole active roster got suspended?  Too bad.  These "brawls" where everyone feels some sort of compulsion to jog in from the bullpen, etc. are an utter waste of time.  If the pitcher and batter want to duke it out, let 'em.

Trot Nixon has an answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJicsBBCOv8
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 14, 2019, 09:48:30 AM
So...

What is everyone's opinion on bench clearing brawls in Baseball?

I won't say I don't occasionally find them interesting, but my position for a while has been as follows:

1. Charge the mound (as a batter) or leave the mound (as a pitcher) for the purpose of fighting and you get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.
2. Leave your defensive position for the purpose of becoming involved in a brawl and get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.
3. Leave the dugout or bullpen for the purpose of becoming involved in a brawl and get automatically and immediately suspended and fined.

Can't field a team tomorrow because your whole active roster got suspended?  Too bad.  These "brawls" where everyone feels some sort of compulsion to jog in from the bullpen, etc. are an utter waste of time.  If the pitcher and batter want to duke it out, let 'em.

Trot Nixon has an answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJicsBBCOv8

There's a name I haven't heard in a while!  I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on August 15, 2019, 11:49:50 PM
Not a fan of brawls.  Big waste of time I agree.

After getting blown out their last two games, the Marlins beat Dodgers 13-7.  That's a David v. Goliath style win. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: SystematicThought on August 15, 2019, 11:59:39 PM
Today I learned of some unwritten rules in baseball.

During the Twins game in the 9th inning, they were leading 13-5. Jake Cave was up to bat and the count was 3-0. Pitch is thrown and he swings at it, gets a hit and gets a single. Commentators started talking about how Cave needed to apologize to the pitcher for swinging on a 3-0 pitch. He hit his chest towards the pitcher to apologize.

Max Kepler is up next, he gets a 2-0 count, pitch is thrown and he gets beaned with a fastball. Commentary states that it was retaliation for the 3-0 swing.

How stupid. Because the pitcher can't throw a strike, the batter needs to hold back and not swing to get on base. I googled other unwritten rules and one of them is that if you get hit by a pitch, you shouldn't rub the spot you got hit because it's an insult to the pitcher.  :huh:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 16, 2019, 10:24:06 AM
Today I learned of some unwritten rules in baseball.

. . .

How stupid.

That pretty much sums up my opinion about most, if not all, of the so-called "unwritten rules" of baseball.  It's one thing, with a big lead late in the game and you've got a guy on first and the batter hits a double, for the third base coach to hold the runner at third and not try and score him.  But there's reason for a batter to give the pitcher a gimme strike.  And to plunk a DIFFERENT batter in retaliation is even worse (especially in the AL where the pitchers only play half of the game and won't face reprisal themselves).  The other one that's supremely dumb is not trying to break up a no-hitter by bunting (especially if it's a close game).
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on August 16, 2019, 10:37:26 AM
Went to Petco Park on Wednesday. What a beautiful facility. Just drives home what a fucking dump Fenway is.

My only complaint is that Petco needs escalators. You have to walk a mile to go up or down a level. Elevators not withstanding..
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: PowerSlave on August 17, 2019, 02:43:24 AM
Went to Petco Park on Wednesday. What a beautiful facility. Just drives home what a fucking dump Fenway is.

My only complaint is that Petco needs escalators. You have to walk a mile to go up or down a level. Elevators not withstanding..

Is it simply an age issue as far as your enjoyment of the park vs. Fenway?

The reason that I ask is because I've been in a few "modern" stadiums (Jacobs Field (Indians), Great American (Reds) and Hines Field (Steelers)), and I'd know/expect them to be better than some of the older places that I've visited in the past (Municipal (Indians old stadium) and Riverfront (Reds/Bengals old stadium)). However, I'm going to be making my first visit to Wrigley Field next month in Chicago to see the Cubs and Cardinals play. I don't expect Wrigley to have some of the modern amenities that the newer places have, but considering the history of the place I'm really pumped up about finally making my first visit to the place. I'd almost expect Fenway to hold that same kind of reverence to a Red Sox fan.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on August 17, 2019, 09:34:11 AM
Well, I've never been, but you should be excited to go to Wrigley, and Fenway for that matter.

There's nothing like coming up the tunnel and seeing the Fenway field for the first time. Iconic for sure.

At Petco, all of the seats are angled towards the infield. At Fenway, the seats are angled whatever way the row is facing. Down the right field foul line, your seats are literally angled towards the outfield!

I like the nice open air feel of the new stadiums. At Fenway, you literally feel like you're in a tunnel moving around the ballpark.


Current ownership has actually done as well of a job as they can trying to create a much better atmosphere though. There are some open spaces in the upper deck down the right field line.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on August 18, 2019, 08:19:12 AM
nobody wants to win the NL Central.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 19, 2019, 01:11:11 PM
nobody wants to win the NL Central.

I just looked at the standings for the first time in a long time.

Dodgers with an 18.5 game lead -- and that's after dropping 2 of 3 to the Braves.  I hope whoever wins the central can at least take the Braves to 5 games int he NLDS.

Dodgers are on pace for a +270 run differential, which would be the greatest differential since at least 2003.

The Rays are 21 "games above .500" but still 9.5 games behind the Yankees (it feels like this has happened to them multiple times over the last decade or so).

The NL Central and the NL wild card are going to be messy down to the last day.

The Twins and Indians battle in the AL Central looks like it'll be a fun one.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 19, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
nobody wants to win the NL Central.

It's SOOOOO bad. Just mediocre at best baseball. Were the Cubs, Brewers or Cards really any good at all they could have ran away with the division two months ago. It really does not matter. None of those (3) teams has a chance in  :censored of winning a series....they're that bad. It's not even fun to watch.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: PowerSlave on August 20, 2019, 10:59:08 PM
nobody wants to win the NL Central.

It's SOOOOO bad. Just mediocre at best baseball. Were the Cubs, Brewers or Cards really any good at all they could have ran away with the division two months ago. It really does not matter. None of those (3) teams has a chance in  :censored of winning a series....they're that bad. It's not even fun to watch.

I wouldn't say that. Any team can get hot at the right time, and become unstoppable. The chances probably aren't that great, though. I do agree with you guys that the division looks bad, though.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 21, 2019, 11:19:32 AM
And in other news, the Dodgers beat the Blue Jays yesterday.  The score was the same as that of Super Bowl 3.

At one point, the Dodgers' organist was playing Subdivisions by Rush.  He's VERY aware of what's going on in the park and on the TV broadcast, and it made me wonder if Geddy Lee was in the house (or if he just played it because Toronto was the opponent).


NL MVP Watch:

Bellinger:  .320 BA (6th), 42 HR (1st), 100 RBI (tied for 2nd), 1.091 OPS (2nd)

Yelich:  .333 (1st), 41 (2nd), 89 (9th), 1.117 (1st)

Alonso:  .271 (<30th), 40 (3rd), 97 (6th), .997 (5th)

Rendon:  .322 (5th), 27 (tied for 19th), 98 (tied for 4th), 1.007 (3rd)


Is anyone other than Trout being talked about for AL MVP (even though his team is likely to miss the playoffs for the eighth time in his nine seasons)?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 22, 2019, 10:37:10 AM
nobody wants to win the NL Central.

It's SOOOOO bad. Just mediocre at best baseball. Were the Cubs, Brewers or Cards really any good at all they could have ran away with the division two months ago. It really does not matter. None of those (3) teams has a chance in  :censored of winning a series....they're that bad. It's not even fun to watch.

I wouldn't say that. Any team can get hot at the right time, and become unstoppable. The chances probably aren't that great, though. I do agree with you guys that the division looks bad, though.

I'm so confident that the Cardinals have zero chance of making any type of noise that I told my buddy that if the Cardinals made it to the NLCS I'd eat a piece of dried dog poo. It's the safest bet I've ever made.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: snapple on August 22, 2019, 05:13:16 PM
Stop losing to the fucking A’s.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 22, 2019, 05:15:25 PM
Stop losing to the fucking A’s.

Will do! :tup
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: PowerSlave on August 22, 2019, 11:47:01 PM
nobody wants to win the NL Central.

It's SOOOOO bad. Just mediocre at best baseball. Were the Cubs, Brewers or Cards really any good at all they could have ran away with the division two months ago. It really does not matter. None of those (3) teams has a chance in  :censored of winning a series....they're that bad. It's not even fun to watch.

I wouldn't say that. Any team can get hot at the right time, and become unstoppable. The chances probably aren't that great, though. I do agree with you guys that the division looks bad, though.

I'm so confident that the Cardinals have zero chance of making any type of noise that I told my buddy that if the Cardinals made it to the NLCS I'd eat a piece of dried dog poo. It's the safest bet I've ever made.

Since I'm a Cubs fan, I hope that you're right. However, I want to see video if you lose the bet...  :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on August 23, 2019, 01:00:54 AM

At one point, the Dodgers' organist was playing Subdivisions by Rush.  He's VERY aware of what's going on in the park and on the TV broadcast, and it made me wonder if Geddy Lee was in the house (or if he just played it because Toronto was the opponent).


Yea he plays some great stuff and at great times.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on August 24, 2019, 06:41:03 PM
I must say I hate the black and white uniforms this weekend.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on August 24, 2019, 11:25:57 PM
That's the general consensus.  Terrible idea.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on August 25, 2019, 08:52:49 AM
MLB "lets do a players only weekend where the players can put nicknames on their jerseys!"

MLB "lets make the uniforms white with white lettering!"

Fans "I can't read the names or see the logos"

MLB "isn't this great!"
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: DragonAttack on August 25, 2019, 10:27:24 AM
Same goes with the hideous black ones.  I tuned in for two pitches the past two nights, and just couldn't take it.

So tired of all the gimmicky stuff for the NBA, NFL, and NCAA. 

Also, if you're going to design some of these so called 'special' unis, at least smoke some better weed.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on August 25, 2019, 11:26:05 AM
MLB "lets do a players only weekend where the players can put nicknames on their jerseys!"

MLB "lets make the uniforms white with white lettering!"

Fans "I can't read the names or see the logos"

MLB "isn't this great!"

You nailed it. It took me several innings of the first Cubs game to figure out what Lester's nickname was, and he's pitching! The camera is on his back the most!

Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on August 25, 2019, 03:56:10 PM
MLB "lets do a players only weekend where the players can put nicknames on their jerseys!"

MLB "lets make the uniforms white with white lettering!"

Fans "I can't read the names or see the logos"

MLB "isn't this great!"

Absolutely stupid.  At least last year, you could read the names.  Plus, when watching highlights, it's almost impossible to tell which teams are playing.  Every home team in white (with indiscernible logo) and ever road team in black -- except the pitchers on the home team seem to be wearing black hats but the pitchers on the road team aren't wearing white hats.  WTF?

Also, the Dodgers posted their starting lineup on Facebook and used the nicknames instead of the actual names.  I now have no idea who's starting at left field and first base.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: snapple on August 28, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
Apparently, the Yankees and Dodgers asked to use their normal jerseys for the weekend given the matchup. MLB declined. Morans.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on September 11, 2019, 12:48:53 AM
Dodgers clinch their 7th division championship in a row!!!  :metal :metal :metal  With their pitching, I doubt they'll make the WS again.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on September 11, 2019, 06:48:45 AM
Brewers have won 5 straight, have gotten to within 1 game of the Cubs for the Wild Card, and Christian Yelich was just lost for the season with a fractured knee cap.

Life as a Brewers fan.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on September 11, 2019, 11:36:22 AM
Christian Yelich was just lost for the season with a fractured knee cap.

I just saw the report on that on MLB Network this morning.  The amount of young talent floating around the National League right now is incredible.  Yelich is right at or near the top of the list and, while he's not on my team, he's awfully fun to watch, seems to play the game "the right way" in all respects and seems to be a good dude, so this really sucks.  I'm looking forward to watching Bellinger, Yelich, Acuna, etc. slug it out for the next decade-plus.


Dodgers clinch their 7th division championship in a row!!!  :metal :metal :metal  With their pitching, I doubt they'll make the WS again.

Who'da thunk that STARTING pitching would be a question mark for the Dodgers?  Yesterday was the first strong start by a Dodgers pitcher in a while.  I sure hope the staff gets it together before the playoffs start.  Keep in mind that, in 2017, the Dodgers had that really crappy run in August/September and then tore it up in the playoffs and played the Astros even through the first six games of the WS.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on September 12, 2019, 06:54:57 AM
Brewers have made up 5 games in 6 days and have tied the Cubs for the second wild card.  I know they don't have much of a chance to advance if they make the playoffs, but keeping the Cubs out is almost as good.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on September 12, 2019, 11:33:04 AM
Christian Yelich was just lost for the season with a fractured knee cap.

I just saw the report on that on MLB Network this morning.  The amount of young talent floating around the National League right now is incredible.  Yelich is right at or near the top of the list and, while he's not on my team, he's awfully fun to watch, seems to play the game "the right way" in all respects and seems to be a good dude, so this really sucks.  I'm looking forward to watching Bellinger, Yelich, Acuna, etc. slug it out for the next decade-plus.


Dodgers clinch their 7th division championship in a row!!!  :metal :metal :metal  With their pitching, I doubt they'll make the WS again.

Who'da thunk that STARTING pitching would be a question mark for the Dodgers?  Yesterday was the first strong start by a Dodgers pitcher in a while.  I sure hope the staff gets it together before the playoffs start.  Keep in mind that, in 2017, the Dodgers had that really crappy run in August/September and then tore it up in the playoffs and played the Astros even through the first six games of the WS.

Don't forget Soto, an amazing hitter for such a young age.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on September 18, 2019, 07:15:21 AM
Week and a half to go and the NL Central and Wild Card will most likely come down to the last day.

Go Brewers!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on September 18, 2019, 10:30:22 AM
Seems pretty clear that the Yankees will win the AL East and the Astros will win the West.  Twins will probably win the Central.  It's possible for Cleveland to make it, but the Twins blowing a 5 game lead with only 11 games remaining would be a pretty monumental collapse.  A's probably get the first wild card, and the Rays and Indians are separated by only half a game for the second wild card.  Red Sox tragic number looks to be 1, so they're cooked.

In the NL, the Dodgers have clinched and are one game back of the Yankees and Astros for the best record in baseball and 5 games up on the Braves for the best record in the NL.  Hard to make much of how they've played since clinching since they're "auditioning" for the last few postseason roster spots.

The Braves will win the East, so the NL Central is the only division that's still in doubt.  Cards are up by 2 on both the Cubs and Brewers.  Cards have a home game against Washington and 3 games at Arizona and SEVEN against the Cubs (4 in Wrigley and three in Busch to finish the season).  The Cubs remaining games are today at home against the Reds and 3 in Pittsburgh.  The Brewers have the most advantageous remaining schedule, with 11 against teams that have long been eliminated (2 at home against the Padres, 3 at home against the Pirates, 3 in Cincinnati and 3 in Colorado).

The wild card is completely up for grabs among the Nats and the two teams that don't win the Central.  I'm gonna say that the Brewers win the Central and the Nats and Cards make the wild card.

The Felipe Vasquez story is UGLY!  I wasn't an advocate for the trade, but I'm now damn glad the Dodgers didn't give up Gavin Lux to get Vasquez.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on September 25, 2019, 08:35:46 PM
Brewers officially in the playoffs!

Most likely going to have to face Washington and Max Scherzer in the one game wild card. 

Can't win it if you're not in it.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: SystematicThought on September 25, 2019, 08:39:37 PM
Congrats to the Brewers, but also congrats to Washington. I didn't follow the whole Bryce Harper thing closely, but didn't he not have much faith in the direction of the team? Well, now his season is almost over and Washington gets at least one more game. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

As for me, waiting patiently to see if the Indians lose tonight. Excited if the Twins make it. This has been such a fun summer watching baseball and the Twins play well.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on September 26, 2019, 11:24:30 AM
Everything is clinched, except:

1. Whether the Brewers or Cards win the NL Central.
2. The host of the NL wild card game.
3. Which two teams of the A's, Rays and Indians make the wild card game and who hosts the game.
4. Best record in the AL (between the Yankees and Astros).
5. Best record in baseball (between the Dodgers, Yankees and Astros).

The Cards have 3 home games remaining against the eliminated Cubs, and the Brewers have 4 road games against the Reds (1 game) and Rockies.  If the Cubs go 1-2 and the Brewers go 3-1, they'll tie and play a one game playoff, which would really hurt the loser in the wild card game.

The A's have 4 games remaining at Seattle.  The Rays have 3 games remaining at Toronto and are hot, having won 6 of 8 against the Dodgers, Red Sox and Yankees).  The Indians have 1 game at the White Sox and 3 at Washington.  The Indians basically need to win out and hope one of the other teams completely collapses.


The Dodgers broadcasters noted the other day that all of the big free agent signings before this season will be missing the playoffs (Harper, et al. in Philly; Machado in San Diego; Trout in Anaheim).  If the Dodgers win the Series, Machado will never hear the end of it at Dodger Stadium.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on September 26, 2019, 04:23:23 PM
Interesting article about the situation with the Rays.

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2019/09/24/rays-fans-what-a-shame-that-you-arent-supporting-this-team/

Fewer than 9,000 for a late season game against a division rival for a team that will end up with somewhere between 95-98 wins?!  Kinda sad for those who do support the team.  Going back to 2008 (the year they won the AL pennant), the Rays have only had two sub-80 win seasons.  It's a team that deserves a fan base that will support it.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on September 29, 2019, 11:34:57 AM
Maddon gone in Chicago!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on September 30, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Maddon gone in Chicago!

I was really surprised to see that.  Craig Counsel is now the longest tenured manager in the NL (followed by Dave Roberts and Don Mattingly)!

My picks for the wildcard games:  A's over Rays and Brewers over Nationals.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on September 30, 2019, 12:49:19 PM
Maddon gone in Chicago!

I was really surprised to see that.  Craig Counsel is now the longest tenured manager in the NL (followed by Dave Roberts and Don Mattingly)!

My picks for the wildcard games:  A's over Rays and Brewers over Nationals.

I like the way you think, unfortunately the Brewers are really beat up.  Ryan Braun strained a calf over the weekend, Lorenzo Cain can barely walk with the multitude of injuries he has, and Mike Moustakas has a bad elbow.  Will need a great pitching performance to move on for sure.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on September 30, 2019, 04:09:09 PM
Maddon gone in Chicago!

I was really surprised to see that.  Craig Counsel is now the longest tenured manager in the NL (followed by Dave Roberts and Don Mattingly)!

My picks for the wildcard games:  A's over Rays and Brewers over Nationals.

I like the way you think, unfortunately the Brewers are really beat up.  Ryan Braun strained a calf over the weekend, Lorenzo Cain can barely walk with the multitude of injuries he has, and Mike Moustakas has a bad elbow.  Will need a great pitching performance to move on for sure.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking that I'd prefer the Dodgers to draw the Brewers in the NLDS rather than the Nats.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: snapple on October 01, 2019, 07:04:30 AM
Scherzer 7IP 11k's tonight. Nats win 3-1. You saw it here.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on October 01, 2019, 09:31:39 PM
that is one of the worst way to lose a game.  just brutal.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on October 01, 2019, 10:03:46 PM
The Seattle Mariners went through the first 18 years of their existence not making the postseason (including 1994). Then they made the playoffs 4 of the next 7 years, never making it to the World Series. If they don't make the playoffs next year (they won't) that will be another 18 year stretch without making the postseason.

But a previous owner has gone on record as saying their goal is not to win World Series. "The goal of the Mariners is not to win a World Series — it is to field a competitive team year after year.” All those teams and their lofty goals of winning championships. Pfft!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 01, 2019, 10:39:27 PM
I don't know about this.  The Nats have a history of falling apart in the playoffs, but the Dodgers have inconsistent pitching with their closer being tied for the most blown saves and one of the highest ERA's in baseball. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 02, 2019, 10:21:25 AM
that is one of the worst way to lose a game.  just brutal.

That must have been so painful for Brewers fans!

The game was 3-1 when I got home, so I watched from the 7th inning on.  Once Hader hit Taylor, that inning spiraled out of control.  The bloop single by Zimmerman was a complete fluke.  Rendon's plate appearance that resulted in the walk was masterful.  Soto got good wood on the ball, but I'm not sure how the right fielder missed it.  It looked like something from one of my kid's PONY ball games (although I think Ron Darling was right that the ball either took a bad hop or had some wacky spin on it).

I was hoping the Dodgers would face the Brewers in the NLDS, but I don't see Scherzer or Strasburg staring either of the first to games of the series.  I also thought it was interesting that the Nats used a scrub to close the game instead of Sean Doolittle.  I now feel much better about facing the Nats.

Also, Jansen's ERA is nowhere near one of the highest in baseball (maybe you meant among closers?).  Interestingly, the ERAs of the closers of the four remaining NL teams are all pretty mediocre:  3.71 (Jansen), 4.05 (Doolittle), 3.17 (Martinez) and 3.84 (Jackson).  By contrast, of the five remaining AL teams, the worst closer ERA is Roberto Osuna's 2.63
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 04, 2019, 12:16:04 AM

Also, Jansen's ERA is nowhere near one of the highest in baseball (maybe you meant among closers?).

Yes I did mean that, my bad.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 04, 2019, 09:54:36 AM
What an absolute nightmare for the Braves yesterday!  When I left my office yesterday, the Cards had tied the game and then went up 5-3.  At some point on the drive home, I heard it was up to 7-3.  After I got home and turned on the Dodgers game the announcer said that the final in Atlanta was Cards 7, Braves 6.  My son was up in arms that Albies was safe at first and that, if they had gotten the call right, Acuna's HR would have tied the game.  Apparently, however, the Braves didn't even challenge the call, and I couldn't tell from the one replay I saw on the highlights.  Losing game 1 at home in that fashion does not bode well for the rest of the series.

Dodgers looked REALLY good.  They came out a bit slow and got a lot of help from the Nats' wild starter in the first inning.  Being able to get the Nats' starters out of the game early is going to be key in this series.  Also, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to slap Fernando Rodney and make him straighten out his hat.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 06, 2019, 06:06:42 PM
Carlos Martinez sucks swamp water.  Cardinals fans are not going to forget him blowing a gem that Waino threw today.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 07, 2019, 11:19:02 AM
Carlos Martinez sucks swamp water.  Cardinals fans are not going to forget him blowing a gem that Waino threw today.

I enjoyed that one quite a bit (although I don't have the same level of disdain for the Cards that I did 3-5 years ago).  I was really hoping that he and Acuna would throw down there.  Nice of Bengie to give Acuna an escort to 1B.

Twins and Rays simply aren't showing up in those series, which is too bad.

Dodgers laid an egg against Strasburg in game 2, but he was straight dealing, and I ultimately have to give him more credit than I give the Dodgers blame.  Also didn't help that Kershaw yacked up 3 runs int he first 2 innings.  Last night was much better, and I'm hoping we can get to Scherzer today and close out the series.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 07, 2019, 03:10:53 PM
Hey...the Rays made an appearance in the ALDS!  Hope they learned something they can use to their advantage tomorrow and push the Asstros to game 5.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 07, 2019, 09:22:51 PM
  Also, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to slap Fernando Rodney and make him straighten out his hat.

My father in law kinda said the same thing!  :lol

The last couple of games are a perfect example of what I've been bitching about.  Thankfully the Dodgers lit them up last night, but if it wasn't for that it would be over right now.  If it's not Kelly, it's Baez.  Game 5 will probably be Jansen to lose it all.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 08, 2019, 08:05:20 AM
Also, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to slap Fernando Rodney and make him straighten out his hat.

NO shit. What a douche.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 08, 2019, 09:46:53 AM
  Also, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to slap Fernando Rodney and make him straighten out his hat.

My father in law kinda said the same thing!  :lol

The last couple of games are a perfect example of what I've been bitching about.  Thankfully the Dodgers lit them up last night, but if it wasn't for that it would be over right now.  If it's not Kelly, it's Baez.  Game 5 will probably be Jansen to lose it all.

It's a small sample size, but the Dodgers have thus far demonstrated a near complete inability to succeed against quality pitching, and tomorrow's game is against a guy who almost completely shut them down in game 2.  Even if they get past the Nats, they aren't going to go far unless they get back to the style of hitting from the first half of the season.  Grip it and rip it and hope for the best doesn't work in the playoffs.

Speaking of which...nice of the Twins to serve up a three game batting practice session for the Yankees.  That was just awful.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 08, 2019, 06:51:16 PM
Verlander (who I really like) is having another rough post season outing.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 09, 2019, 10:05:01 AM
Verlander (who I really like) is having another rough post season outing.

Love it.  Gives me a modicum of hope that the Dodgers can figure out Strasburg tonight.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on October 09, 2019, 07:01:36 PM
Cards put up a 10 spot in the first and the Braves go home.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 09, 2019, 07:17:39 PM
I was at work during the 1st inning and missed it, but it sure was hilarious getting updates every two minutes about how the Cardinals had scored again. :lol :lol :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2019, 07:21:43 PM
Verlander (who I really like) is having another rough post season outing.

Love it.  Gives me a modicum of hope that the Dodgers can figure out Strasburg tonight.

So long as Kershaw isn't pitching... I see Bueller is pitching. That's good.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 09, 2019, 08:30:06 PM
Verlander (who I really like) is having another rough post season outing.

Love it.  Gives me a modicum of hope that the Dodgers can figure out Strasburg tonight.

So long as Kershaw isn't pitching... I see Bueller is pitching. That's good.

So far so good, but this game is moving too slowly.

That Cards/Braves game was just ridiculous!  I had to leave work early to go to an appointment and stopped for a late lunch.  I opened my ESPN app and saw it was 4-0 in the top of the first.  By the time I got to the box score to see what had happened, it was 7-0, and within moments after that, it was 9-0.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on October 10, 2019, 12:38:59 AM
:clap: So the Dodgers choked in the playoffs yet again. Kershaw choked in the playoffs yet again. He may be the greatest pitcher of this generation in the regular season, but for whatever reason (stamina issues maybe) he just can't seem to cut it in the playoffs. Some things never change  :loser: :ushallnotpass:

:woot: :victorydance:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on October 10, 2019, 07:52:50 AM
can't imagine what Dodgers fans feel like after blowing a 3-1 lead in the 8th inning with their best pitcher on the mound.....

.....oh wait.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 10, 2019, 08:40:36 AM
I actually felt bad for Kershaw. He seems like a good guy, yet always has these postseason flame-outs. It's bizarre.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 10, 2019, 11:47:47 AM
Many thoughts right now.

When I posted yesterday evening, I think the game was in the 5th inning or so.  Getting 3 off Strasburg early gave me a lot of hope, but the offense did shit after that.  Buehler pitched his ass off and, outside of two swings by Muncy and Hernandez, the offense sucked.  16 runs in the two wins and only 6 in the three losses.

Kershaw...my immediate reaction was that I wouldn't be terribly upset if he never throws another pitch in a Dodgers uniform.  I had the "is he a HOF'er discussion with a friend a couple months ago.  He said absolutely, yes.  I was and still am on the fence.  From 2011-17, he was pretty easily the best pitcher in the game.  But, while he's had a couple strong postseason moments (and, prior to this year, he had few, if any hiccups in the divisional series), his overall postseason performance has been no better than mediocre.  He's a great guy, and I feel bad for him because I know how badly he wants to win, but he just doesn't have it.  And now that he's really no better than a #3 starter, I'm kinda done with him.

I'm also pretty done with either Dave Roberts or the Dodgers' front office.  I've basically gone over to the side that says he doesn't know how to manage a pitching staff.  I'm also kinda done with Rick Honeycutt as a pitching coach.  The Dodgers broadcast team constantly tells us that he's one of the best in the game, but I don't know.  Finally, for the first half of the season, the Dodgers were very different in terms of hitting for contact, moving runners over, having a two-strike approach, but they just seemed to swing from their heels this entire series.

It sucks hard, but for a change, I'm actually pulling for the team that eliminated the Dodgers.  Also REALLY pulling for the Rays in today's game in Houston.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 10, 2019, 12:14:58 PM

Kershaw...my immediate reaction was that I wouldn't be terribly upset if he never throws another pitch in a Dodgers uniform.  I had the "is he a HOF'er discussion with a friend a couple months ago.  He said absolutely, yes.  I was and still am on the fence.  From 2011-17, he was pretty easily the best pitcher in the game.  But, while he's had a couple strong postseason moments (and, prior to this year, he had few, if any hiccups in the divisional series), his overall postseason performance has been no better than mediocre.  He's a great guy, and I feel bad for him because I know how badly he wants to win, but he just doesn't have it.  And now that he's really no better than a #3 starter, I'm kinda done with him.

Dude has a career 2.44 ERA. his record is 169-74 with 2,274 innings pitched.....2,464 K's. He's a hall of fame player for sure. Probably first ballot. BUT.....his career playoff ERA is 4-7 with an ERA of 4.55. Who knows 'why' that is....most likely is playoffs bring out the best in players....and he's been on the bad end of it.
I'm not like Kev....I don't 'feel' for the guy at all. You either perform when you need to or you don't. He will forever be remembered as the guy who just couldn't quite get there. (unless something dramatic happens) You have pitchers that rise to the occasion or that don't. He hasn't


BUT...that being said....he should have never been in that situation last night. He came in to get his guy to end the 7th and should not have been ran back out there in the 8th. That was horrible managing by Roberts. Doesn't excuse the two solo HR's he allowed but he shouldn't have been put in that position anyway.

Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 10, 2019, 12:17:26 PM
Given that Kershaw's numbers are not good in those situations over the course of his career, it was just a very bad decision for Dave Roberts to put him out there.  It showed that he doesn't understand situational ball. 

Edit: Gary basically just said the same thing above, by and large.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 10, 2019, 01:36:40 PM
I've been in a pretty intense debate with some buddies of mine.....and it's been mentioned locally here in St. Louis on sports talk radio after being brought up by a former NHL'r who is a host.....and it's the subject of these baseball celebrations after 'winning' a series.

I'm of the mindset like hockey teams do it.....the main goal is the Stanley Cup, the big dog Championship. All the other accomplishments along the way are nice and something to reflect on....but there is no real big celebration when they win the divsion...or any of the first three rounds of the playoffs. There is some glad handing and smiles and some pats on the back and a team pic or two.....but NOTHING like these baseball teams do for basically accomplishing nothing.

Now my buddies insist that winning the division....then winning the chance to play for the NLCS is a 'big deal'. I will relent and say it's an accomplishment I guess....but it's minor. Especially getting to the NLCS. You have to win (3) games to do that....(4) if you're one of the single game play in wild card teams. Get hot at the right time and your playing for the right to rep. your division at the World Series. It's honestly not all that difficult to do when compared to other sports championships....ESPECIALLY hockey.

Their argument is that there are more teams that make the playoffs in Hockey which makes some sense....but at the same time....it's (4) best of seven series against really tough teams. Baseball is (1) best of 5 when one of the teams is a wild card team....not exactly cream of the crop.

I don't know...i'm rambling at this point....my thing is.....the excessive celebrating when you really haven't 'won' anything is annoying to me at this point. No one remembers the division champs or who the eventual World Series champs played.....they remember the team who wins the ultimate goal. Stop this ridiculous celebration of meaningless accomplishments.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 10, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Dude has a career 2.44 ERA. his record is 169-74 with 2,274 innings pitched.....2,464 K's. He's a hall of fame player for sure. Probably first ballot.

For the time being, Kershaw has the third-highest win percentage of all time (minimum one decision for every ten team games).  That's a function of the teams he played for (the Dodgers have won fewer than 90 games only thrice in Kershaw's career) and the fact that he got a LOT of no decisions over his career.  His strikeout numbers are pedestrian, rivaling those of Mark Langston and Jim Kaat.

The ERA number is impressive.  He's 37th on the all-time ERA list (minimum 1 IP per team game) with the only guy ahead of him who played in my lifetime (as far as I could tell) being Mariano Rivera.  However, only 11 of the 36 ahead of him are in the HOF (and that includes Babe Ruth, who's obviously there for reasons other than pitching).

But the longer he pitches the worse he gets in the regular season, and his poor postseason performances are becoming a bigger and bigger albatross around his neck.

He'll get voted into the HOF for the same reason Sandy Koufax did.  To the extent you ascribe any significance to being voted in on the first ballot, he's absolutely not deserving.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 10, 2019, 05:40:01 PM
Unlike the other major sports, though, postseason records and whatnot don't seem to have a huge impact on a player's all-time status in baseball, so by the time he retires, Kershaw's mediocre postseason numbers will likely be an afterthought.  Greg Maddox underachieved in the postseason as well, but hardly anyone remembers it. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 10, 2019, 08:13:00 PM
Looks like those Yankee bastards are going to Houston... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4en_YVa4zQ
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 11, 2019, 10:14:06 AM
Unlike the other major sports, though, postseason records and whatnot don't seem to have a huge impact on a player's all-time status in baseball, so by the time he retires, Kershaw's mediocre postseason numbers will likely be an afterthought.  Greg Maddox underachieved in the postseason as well, but hardly anyone remembers it.

The biggest reason hardly anyone remembers it is probably because it wasn't that bad and because he actually won a World Series.

Kershaw will likely finish with a much better ERA than Maddux, but his numbers won't likely be otherwise comparable (e.g., no way Kershaw makes it to 3,000 strikeouts).  As far as the postseason, while Maddux has an 11-14 record, his ERA (3.27) and WHIP (1.242) are on par with his regular season numbers (3.16 ERA and 1.143 WHIP).  That disparity turns significantly in Maddux's favor if you factor out the 1989 NLCS, in which a 23 year old Maddux gave up 11 earned runs in 7.1 IP, which gives him a 2.88 ERA and a 1.201 WHIP.  If you consider only Maddux's time with the Braves, his career postseason ERA a43 WHIP 2.81 and 1.177.

If the Dodgers had won in 2017, Kershaw's narrative would have changed significantly.  You can talk about Kershaw having been the best pitcher in the game for 5+ years, but that always gets tagged with "regular season," and I think his lasting legacy will be consistent failure in the post season from the beginning to the end of his career.  Once his career is done, any discussion will always start with the postseason failure, or it will be a "yeah but" after discussing his peak as a dominant regular season pitcher.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on October 12, 2019, 08:21:49 AM
Anibal Sanchez took a no-hitter into the eighth last night.

I had no idea he was still in the league.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on October 12, 2019, 02:47:48 PM
Hoping for Astros - Nats, just for the possible matchups of Verlander and Cole vs Scherzer and Strasburg.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 14, 2019, 10:17:51 AM
Anibal Sanchez took a no-hitter into the eighth last night.

I had no idea he was still in the league.

I wonder how the Detroit Tigers feel...watching Scherzer, Sanchez and Verlander this time of year.  The three of them together in a rotation.


Nats v. Cards series is over.  No way the Cards win 4 of 5.

Yankees v. Astros series is going to be a war and likely will go 7.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2019, 10:26:16 AM
Reggie Jackson FTW!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/reggie-jackson-apologizes-for-expletive-filled-critique-of-injured-giancarlo-stanton/ar-AAILqDT?li=BBnba9I
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 15, 2019, 01:06:52 AM
I knew that Dodgers blowpen was gonna stop us from getting to the WS.   ::)  :tdwn :loser:

Postseason Kershaw is what it is, and Kelly is supposed to be great in the postseason but of course he falls apart on the Dodgers.  If it wasn't those two, it would have been Jansen who has a high ERA for a closer and is wildly inconsistent from game to game. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 15, 2019, 10:13:48 AM
I knew that Dodgers blowpen was gonna stop us from getting to the WS.   ::)  :tdwn :loser:

Postseason Kershaw is what it is, and Kelly is supposed to be great in the postseason but of course he falls apart on the Dodgers.  If it wasn't those two, it would have been Jansen who has a high ERA for a closer and is wildly inconsistent from game to game.

I blame the offense as much as anything.  Wildly inconsistent, and the batters did everything that you can't do in the playoffs.

Friedman's now supposedly going to get a contract extension, which means it probably doesn't matter whether Roberts stays or go.  Sigh....
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on October 15, 2019, 09:36:43 PM
The Mariners are now the only remaining existing franchise to never make it to the World Series. 
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 16, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
The Mariners are now the only remaining existing franchise to never make it to the World Series.

That actually surprised me a bit when I heard it last night.

Seven current franchises have never won a WS:  Rays, Rangers (third Washington Senators), Mariners, Nationals (Expos), Brewers (Seattle Pilots), Rockies and Padres.

By comparison, the other four major North American sports leagues (and especially the NHL and NBA) have had relatively larger numbers never play for or win titles:

NFL:  4 current franchises have never played in the Super Bowl (Browns, Texans, Titans and Lions) and 11 have never won (the four previously mentioned plus the Bills, Bengals, Titans, Chargers, Vikings, Panthers, Falcons and Cardinals).  However, the Bills and Titans (the latter as the Houston Oilers) each won two AFL titles (and the Chargers won one), and the Lions and Cardinals each won two pre-Super Bowl NFL titles, so it's really only the Browns, Texans, Bengals, Vikings, Panthers and Falcons who've never won a title.

NBA:  7 current franchises have never played in the NBA finals (Hornets, Pelicans, Nuggets, Grizzlies, Thunder, Kings, Wolves and Clippers), and 12 have never won a title (the seven previously mentioned plus the Nets, Pacers, Magic, Suns and Jazz.  However, the Pacers and Nets both won multiple ABA titles.

NHL:  4 current franchises have never played in the Stanley Cup Final (Blue Jackets, Jets/Thrashers, Wild and Coyotes/Jets), and 11 have never won the Cup (the four previously mentioned and the Sabres, Panthers, Senators, Predators, Knights, Canucks and Sharks).
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: romdrums on October 16, 2019, 12:41:12 PM

NFL:  4 current franchises have never played in the Super Bowl (Browns, Texans, Titans and Lions) and 11 have never won (the four previously mentioned plus the Bills, Bengals, Titans, Chargers, Vikings, Panthers, Falcons and Cardinals).  However, the Bills and Titans (the latter as the Houston Oilers) each won two AFL titles (and the Chargers won one), and the Lions and Cardinals each won two pre-Super Bowl NFL titles, so it's really only the Browns, Texans, Bengals, Vikings, Panthers and Falcons who've never won a title.


The Browns won all four AAFC championships prior to joining the NFL in the 1950 season, and then won 4 NFL championships in 11 appearances between 1950 and 1969.  The Lions also have 4 NFL Championships, the last coming in 1957.  It's funny now to think that the Browns and the Lions were the class of the NFL in the 1950's.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 16, 2019, 12:49:53 PM

NFL:  4 current franchises have never played in the Super Bowl (Browns, Texans, Titans and Lions) and 11 have never won (the four previously mentioned plus the Bills, Bengals, Titans, Chargers, Vikings, Panthers, Falcons and Cardinals).  However, the Bills and Titans (the latter as the Houston Oilers) each won two AFL titles (and the Chargers won one), and the Lions and Cardinals each won two pre-Super Bowl NFL titles, so it's really only the Browns, Texans, Bengals, Vikings, Panthers and Falcons who've never won a title.


The Browns won all four AAFC championships prior to joining the NFL in the 1950 season, and then won 4 NFL championships in 11 appearances between 1950 and 1969.  The Lions also have 4 NFL Championships, the last coming in 1957.  It's funny now to think that the Browns and the Lions were the class of the NFL in the 1950's.

Lions:  Not sure how I missed that.

Browns:  The current Browns franchise has no connection to any of that.  The franchise that won all that stuff is now the Baltimore Ravens.  While I understand that, "officially," all of the Browns history stays in Cleveland and is magically tagged onto the current Browns franchise, that's all a complete fiction.  It would be a little like crediting the Washington Nationals with a World Series title because the Washington Senators (a franchise now known as the Minnesota Twins) won the Series in 1924.  Except for the "official" adoption of a fiction, the two situations are no different.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: dparrott on October 19, 2019, 08:56:09 AM

I blame the offense as much as anything.  Wildly inconsistent, and the batters did everything that you can't do in the playoffs.


Yea, that's actually been a problem in past postseasons too. 

Roberts is staying.  In that case, he needs education on how to manage a bullpen and not just put guys in there based solely on numbers.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2019, 07:34:19 AM
Interesting reading the last few posts, guys.

I was amazed at how focused and driven the Dodgers were this season. It's a tribute to their talent, but Roberts has to take a lot of credit for that.

As a Sox fan, we watched the Dodgers up close in LY's WS. Many surmised that Robert's was hamstrung by the organization, and a lot of his decisions were basically handed to him. He did as expected by upper management. He hade some bizarre decisions last year, pulling Rich Hill, etc...

And Kenly Jansen is a puddle.

They could always lose to Houston or NY, but it's shocking to not get there.


Guys, what's the deal with Freidman? He is going to re-sign?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mlb-umpire-eric-cooper-dead-at-52/ar-AAJ4GzB?li=BBnb7Kz

Damn.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 21, 2019, 11:26:31 AM
Interesting reading the last few posts, guys.

I was amazed at how focused and driven the Dodgers were this season. It's a tribute to their talent, but Roberts has to take a lot of credit for that.

As a Sox fan, we watched the Dodgers up close in LY's WS. Many surmised that Robert's was hamstrung by the organization, and a lot of his decisions were basically handed to him. He did as expected by upper management. He hade some bizarre decisions last year, pulling Rich Hill, etc...

And Kenly Jansen is a puddle.

They could always lose to Houston or NY, but it's shocking to not get there.


Guys, what's the deal with Freidman? He is going to re-sign?

The answer to a lot of this is "you got me..."

The 2019 Dodgers played really well during the first half of the season.  They swung for the fences when it was appropriate, but they played a lot of "old school" ball when it was called for (e.g., moving the runner over, hitting the other way, 2-strike approach).  They seemed to abandon that during the second half of the season, but I know Cody Bellinger cut his strikeout rate way down from his first two seasons, and that continued the whole season.  In the five postseason games, it was the same old thing.  The offense tried win bludgeon the Nats, but it didn't work with guys like Strasburg and Scherzer.

The Rich Hill thing in the WS was baffling.  The interviews I heard made it sound like Roberts thought Hill had said he wanted to come out but, in reality, Roberts misunderstood Hill.  Very weird to have that sort of miscommunication on the biggest stage in the game.

Much of the fan base is sick of either Friedman or Roberts or both.  A very vocal percentage of folks want Roberts fired.  I'm in camp that thinks it won't matter much as long as Friedman is in charge.  The Dodgers are very vocal in saying that Friedman doesn't call down to the dugout during games, but that doesn't mean he doesn't dictate what Roberts must do in certain situations.  Friedman is apparently getting an extension, which means I don't think anything will change anytime soon.  That's too bad because some of Joe Kelly's early season struggles were blamed on him being inundated with analytics that it messed with his head while he was on the mound.

The pitching staff needs an enema, and hopefully it starts by signing Gerrit Cole during the offseason.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mlb-umpire-eric-cooper-dead-at-52/ar-AAJ4GzB?li=BBnb7Kz

Damn.

Not a name I really recognize, which is probably a good thing for an umpire.  He was only a year old than I am (turning 52 next week).
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: DragonAttack on October 21, 2019, 11:46:32 AM
Baseball is still being played? ;)

Those with basic cable, or no cable, would not know it due to the networks the playoffs have been telecasted on.

And Mister Commissioner wonders why ratings and interest and attendance is down. :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 21, 2019, 12:15:31 PM
Baseball is still being played? ;)

Those with basic cable, or no cable, would not know it due to the networks the playoffs have been telecasted on.

And Mister Commissioner wonders why ratings and interest and attendance is down. :facepalm:

The games are mostly on TBS/TNT and Fox Sports 1.  I don't know about FS1, but TBS and TNT are about as "basic" as cable gets.  My wife handles our cable package (Spectrum), so I don't know all the details, but I know for sure it's nothing special, and I get all of these channels (as well as MLB Network).  And folks who don't have cable are either in the stone age or watching nothing but streaming services and don't care.

Attendance is an interesting thing.  Prior to 1993, the record for attendance was 56,813,760 in 1991.  In 1993, the Rockies and Marlins increased the number of teams to 28, and attendance jumped to just over 70M.  It fell to just over 50M in 1994 because of the strike and didn't recover to over 70M until 1998, when the Rays and Diamondbacks pushed the number of teams to 30.  Attendance rose to over 72.5M in 2001 and then dropped to under 68M in 2002 and 2003 (not sure why).  It then rose again and hit the all-time record in 2007, with 79,484,718.  in 2018 and 2019 attendance was about 69.7M and 68.5M (below 70M for the first time since 2003).  I'm not entirely sure what to make of all this, but here's the source for these numbers (with a number of other interesting -- at least to me -- statistics):  https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/misc.shtml
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2019, 07:56:07 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mlb-umpire-joe-west-suing-former-all-star-paul-lo-duca-for-claiming-he-took-bribes/ar-AAJbb3I?li=BBnbfcL

Good for Joe West.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 23, 2019, 10:41:58 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mlb-umpire-joe-west-suing-former-all-star-paul-lo-duca-for-claiming-he-took-bribes/ar-AAJbb3I?li=BBnbfcL

Good for Joe West.

Wow...I liked Lo Duca when he played for the Dodgers, but he's come across as a total jackass every time I've hear him on sports talk radio.  It's not like it's not easy enough to get game records of this stuff.


On another note, that game last night was fantastic!  The 5 earned runs scored by the Nats were 4 more than Cole had given up all postseason to that point and, including both postseason and regular season games, he gave up only 5 earned runs (plus 1 unearned run) between September 3 and October 21.  Juan Soto was a monster.  That double he hit the other way was just a perfect approach.  The only downside is that the Nats used Hudson and Doolittle for 1.1 IP each, so they have to hope Strasburg comes up with a monster game.  $889 (including fees) just to get in the building for game 3 on Friday in D.C.!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 24, 2019, 09:41:32 AM
Unbelievable couple of games by the Nationals.  Cole and Verlander didn't lose back-to-back games all season long, and now they're in a spot where neither starts another game until April (although I'll bet that, if Washington wins tomorrow, Cole comes back on short rest on Saturday).  Verlander's World Series record is shockingly bad:  0-5 with 30 hits allowed in 33 innings and a 5.73 ERA.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 24, 2019, 06:24:49 PM
Given that this has been the decade of teams in the four major sports winning championships for either the first time or in a really long time, it would only be fitting to see the Nats finish off the decade with their first.

'16 Cubs (first in over 100 years)
'17 Astros (first ever)

'12 Kings (first Stanley Cup win)
'18 Capitals (first Stanley Cup win)
'19 Blues (first Stanley Cup win)

'13 Seahawks (first Super Bowl win)
'17 Eagles (first Super Bowl win)

'11 Mavericks (first ever)
'15 Warriors (first in 40 years)
'16 Cavs (first ever)
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2019, 06:25:43 PM
Can't you do that for every decade??
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 24, 2019, 06:26:54 PM
Very possible, yes, but it just seems like this decade has a lot more of first time/first in a long time winners.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2019, 06:34:11 PM
Sems like just another reason to post about the Blues... :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 24, 2019, 06:42:15 PM
They did just score a PP goal...:P :lol
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 25, 2019, 11:07:46 AM
Can't you do that for every decade??

Pretty much.

2000s:

NBA:  Heat
MLB:  Diamondbacks and Angels (plus the Red Sox and White Sox each won for the first time in forever)
NHL:  Lightning, Hurricanes (Whalers) and Sucks
NFL:  Rams (based on when the game was played; otherwise, this counts for the 90s; first Super Bowl, but won pre-Super Bowl NFL championships), Ravens (original Browns, although they had won pre-Super Bowl NFL championships), Patriots and Buccaneers (4 years in a row)


1990s:

NBA:  Bulls, Rockets and Spurs
MLB:  Blue Jays and Marlins
NHL:  Penguins, Devils, Avalanche (Nordiques) and Stars (North Stars)
NFL:  Broncos


1980s:

NBA:  Pistons
MLB:  Phillies, Royals and Twins
NHL:  Islsanders, Oilers and Flames
NFL:  49ers, Redskins, Bears and Giants (these teams all won their first Super Bowl in the 80s, but all except the 49ers had won pre-Super Bowl NFL championships)



Sems like just another reason to post about the Blues... :lol

Can you blame him?  Had I been posting here in 2012, you can be damn sure I'd have talked about the Kings at every opportunity.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 25, 2019, 12:17:09 PM
Damn right. :hat

In the meantime, the Nats look to have that team of destiny (if you buy that bull shit :lol) look about them, especially when you think about how they won the wild card game and then Game 5 against LA.  Houston better win tonight or they can start the bus.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 25, 2019, 03:49:48 PM
In the meantime, the Nats look to have that team of destiny (if you buy that bull shit :lol) look about them, especially when you think about how they won the wild card game and then Game 5 against LA.  Houston better win tonight or they can start the bus.

Yup.  After the Nats won the first two in STL, I said the series was over.  Not prepared to do that for the WS, but I agree that it is over if Washington wins tonight.

It's really not too surprising when you consider that the Nats were the best team in baseball most of the season.  They rebounded from what I think was a 19-31 start with a helluva vengeance.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 26, 2019, 08:42:59 AM
Another 4-hour plus 9-inning game. :\

The Astros have life, though!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2019, 04:34:56 PM
Another 4-hour plus 9-inning game. :\


That’s the best kind!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: DragonAttack on October 27, 2019, 07:37:38 AM
Baseball is still being played? ;)

Those with basic cable, or no cable, would not know it due to the networks the playoffs have been telecasted on.

And Mister Commissioner wonders why ratings and interest and attendance is down. :facepalm:

The games are mostly on TBS/TNT and Fox Sports 1.  I don't know about FS1, but TBS and TNT are about as "basic" as cable gets.  My wife handles our cable package (Spectrum), so I don't know all the details, but I know for sure it's nothing special, and I get all of these channels (as well as MLB Network).  And folks who don't have cable are either in the stone age or watching nothing but streaming services and don't care.


We 'downsized' our cable three years ago.  We had no ESPNs, no TBS/TNT, or FS1.  Saved us over $100 a month.  For years, my stepdaughter had basic, due to the little time spent at her apartment.  It was the same crappy basic package from another cable 'provider' (she has a Master's and works at the Naval Academy, so I don't think she lives in the stone age ;))  Last year, we 'upped' our package, but at the same rates as when we downsized.  No idea what changes are in store next summer.

Travelling:  not all hotels have FS1.

For the past two years, there's been no 'free' baseball in Maryland.  No O's games (which might be a blessing...), not even for road games.  They could offer this on the digital antenna channels, but don't.  They could show a Sunday game, but don't.  The same goes for the LCS's.  And, sadly,  there's too many people who simply cannot afford 'quality' cable.  And these are some who are still interested in the game, may go to one or two, and who may have sat down with youngsters to share in the experience to build up their interest.  That's being lost.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: jammindude on October 27, 2019, 01:08:06 PM
4 games into the World Series and the home team has never won yet?   How often does that happen?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on October 27, 2019, 02:15:58 PM
Not often. This is turning into a heck of a series.

Road teams won the first five in ‘96.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: jammindude on October 27, 2019, 08:44:08 PM
Wait....since when do they not pitch to the intentional walk?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: DragonAttack on October 28, 2019, 05:57:14 AM
All year.  That's to shorten games.  It's worked.  The WS games are averaging FOUR freakin' hours!!!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: T-ski on October 28, 2019, 07:22:37 AM
not shocked the Astros have taken back the series, they've been the best team all year for a reason.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 28, 2019, 10:48:22 AM
Series where the road team won the first 5 games:  1906 (Cubs v. White Sox), 1996 (Braves v. Yankees) and 2019.

The current IBB rule went into effect in 2017.

What a massive choke job by the Nats (although yesterday can be somewhat forgiven because of the injury to Scherzer).  I may not even watch tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 30, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
GAME 7 TODAY BABY!!!

 :metal
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 30, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
GAME 7 TODAY BABY!!!

 :metal

Oh yeah!

Hopefully the trend of the road team winning continues.

Justin Verlander is now 0-6 in World Series appearances.  Clayton Kershaw says ouch.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on October 30, 2019, 08:38:20 PM
GAME 7 TODAY BABY!!!

 :metal

Justin Verlander is now 0-6 in World Series appearances.  Clayton Kershaw says ouch.
:metalol:
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 30, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
This game is tense!!!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on October 30, 2019, 09:36:38 PM
Greinke could have been the hero of this series, instead his asshole manager pulls him after making literally only 1 bad pitch the entire game. To top it off, he doesn’t bring in Cole who is the best pitcher available. Nats will be a great story, happy for Scherzer among others if this score holds up.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 30, 2019, 09:38:47 PM
And I think that hit by Eaton might have sealed the deal.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: jammindude on October 30, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Wow! First time in WS history that the home loses every game for all 7 games.

That’s just mind blowing.

Has that happened in ANY sport?
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: DragonAttack on October 30, 2019, 11:10:52 PM
Bob Costas did a segment on PTI Wednesday. 

1400 series in all sports that went seven games.  Not one where the home teams lost the first six games until this series.

And the Astros were 60-21 in the regular season at home.......
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 31, 2019, 11:03:41 AM
The home versus road dichotomy in this series was unbelievable.

In the four games in Houston (all won by Washington):

Washington - 30 runs (7.5 per game), 40 hits (10 per game) and 25 LOB (6.25 per game)
Houston - 11 runs (2.75 per game), 34 hits (8.5 per game) and 36 (9 per game)

In the three games in Washington (all won by Houston):

Houston - 19 runs (6.33 per game), 34 hits (8.67 per game) and 24 (8 per game)
Washington - 3 runs (1 per game), 17 hits (5.67 per game) and 25 (8.33 per game)

Houston killed itself with a lack of timely hitting.

It was a REALLY well-played World Series, with only 7 errors between the two teams.

3 of the last 4, 4 of the last 6, and 5 of the last 9 World Series (2011-19) have gone 7 games (compare that to only 4 Series that went 7 games between 1988-2010).
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: Dream Team on October 31, 2019, 12:18:23 PM
Lot of crazy facts from this series. Washington played FIVE elimination games and were behind at some point in ALL FIVE, which is crazy.

Scherzer and Strasburg started 10 games this postseason, and the Nats won ALL 10.

Kendrick is the first player ever to have more than 1 go-ahead homer in winner-take-all games in the same postseason.

The randomness of sports sometimes is fascinating. In the early innings when the Astros had a lot of men on base, they were hitting rockets but always right at somebody.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on October 31, 2019, 03:10:04 PM
Lot of crazy facts from this series. Washington played FIVE elimination games and were behind at some point in ALL FIVE, which is crazy.

Scherzer and Strasburg started 10 games this postseason, and the Nats won ALL 10.

Kendrick is the first player ever to have more than 1 go-ahead homer in winner-take-all games in the same postseason.

The randomness of sports sometimes is fascinating. In the early innings when the Astros had a lot of men on base, they were hitting rockets but always right at somebody.

AND Justin Verlander -- a no doubt HOF'er -- is now 0-6 in the World Series (7 starts and 38 IP in 2006, 12, 17 and 19) with a 5.68 ERA and a 1.289 WHIP.  That's just nuts.
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 31, 2019, 06:39:14 PM
What's really crazy is that four of the past six World Series champs won it by winning Game 7 on the road.

Anyway, congrats to the Nats!
Title: Re: 2019 MLB Thread
Post by: pg1067 on November 01, 2019, 10:43:02 AM
What's really crazy is that four of the past six World Series champs won it by winning Game 7 on the road.

A distinct trend reversal.  SF winning game 7 in KC was the first time a road team had won game 7 since the Pirates did it in 1979.