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Title: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Elite on January 23, 2019, 12:22:43 PM
Previous round results:

Aquarium 2 (12.5%)
Visions 3 (18.8%)
Deathless 5 (31.3%)
Atlas Stone 1 (6.3%)
Crystallised 1 (6.3%)
Puzzle Box 2 (12.5%)
Veil 2 (12.5%)

Songs not mentioned here received zero votes.

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The Finals - Results:

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13. Deathless
14. Earthrise

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Haken Survivor Main Thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53008.0)

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I honestly personally think that in this batch of songs, Deathless should have finished in the top 5 at least, but personal opinions mean nothing when almost a third of the votes were for this song in this survivor format. I can also understand why one would not like it; it's quite a bit different from their other songs, but that's part of what makes it so good to me. It's nothing new though; looking at previous year's results show that Deathless is always one of the first to go in the Finals. Ah, well. Another day, another round. Let's go!
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Crow on January 23, 2019, 12:23:26 PM
Ice Ice Baby 2
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: cramx3 on January 23, 2019, 12:24:55 PM
Well this survivor just went downhill quickly.  I'm just going to keep voting Atlas Stone since it really doesnt even belong anywhere near Deathless or even Earthrise. 
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: jakepriest on January 23, 2019, 12:48:49 PM
Deathless is overrated

So is Visions v3
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Mladen on January 23, 2019, 02:24:39 PM
The Endless Knot
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on January 23, 2019, 02:31:34 PM
Crystallised
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: ariich on January 23, 2019, 02:58:02 PM
Still Aquarium.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: jakepriest on January 23, 2019, 03:53:16 PM
Crystallised

Don't do this to me that's their best epic man.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Crow on January 23, 2019, 04:03:23 PM
Crystallised

Don't do this to me that's their best epic man.
Disgustingly wrong
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 23, 2019, 07:30:26 PM
Puzzle Box.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Elite on January 24, 2019, 01:31:30 AM
Crystallised

Don't do this to me that's their best epic man.

More like their worst epic*, but okay.



* is Veil considered an epic? Because if it is, then that's the worst.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Crow on January 24, 2019, 01:46:45 AM
veil is better by virtue of not being twice as long as it needs to be
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Elite on January 24, 2019, 02:57:14 AM
Veil has that jarring transition I can't get over.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: ariich on January 24, 2019, 03:39:14 AM
The Architect has that as well. Overall I prefer Veil.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on January 24, 2019, 08:09:32 AM
The Architect has that as well.

Where?
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: jakepriest on January 24, 2019, 09:08:54 AM
The Architect has that as well.

Where?

Right in the middle of the song?
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on January 24, 2019, 09:26:09 AM
If that's what he's talking about I definitely disagree. It makes sense to transition into a very different section after the second chorus, and while it's a pretty hard transition, I wouldn't call it jarring or out of nowhere.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: ariich on January 24, 2019, 09:57:28 AM
Maybe it feels more jarring because I find that section pretty meh. Like an inferior version of FBTE.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Evermind on January 24, 2019, 10:33:27 AM
Maybe it feels more jarring because I find that section pretty meh. Like an inferior version of FBTE.

I wouldn't say it's jarring, but agree with the FBTE comparison.

I've gotten used to the transition in Veil, but I listened to Vector a lot of times in the last few weeks. The transition is a bit abrupt, but I love that calm section that comes after it.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: jakepriest on January 24, 2019, 10:33:49 AM
Maybe it feels more jarring because I find that section pretty meh. Like an inferior version of FBTE.

It's a shame because I like Architect's first part way more than FBTE, but then it just goes meh after the transition while FBTE hits it's highest point.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Crow on January 24, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
They've basically tried to remake FBTE on each album since the mountain lol
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: jakepriest on January 24, 2019, 10:39:28 AM
They've basically tried to remake FBTE on each album since the mountain lol

And it's not even a top 5 song :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Crow on January 24, 2019, 10:47:09 AM
Jake we know you're a bad takes machine you don't need to keep repeating it
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Evermind on January 24, 2019, 10:49:26 AM
I hope they add The Architect to their current setlist so I'll be able to see them play FBTE three times during one evening :neverusethis:

Veil actually feels a bit different from FBTE for me, the calm section has a different vibe I guess. The Architect is definitely similar in my book, though.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: jakepriest on January 24, 2019, 10:51:43 AM
you're a bad takes machine

what does that even mean  :lol
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on January 24, 2019, 10:52:13 AM
Personally I prefer The Architect to FBTE, Veil, or any of their other epics really. Sure, a lot of their longer songs have done the "quiet section in the middle followed by a big buildup" thing, but that section in The Architect at least has a very different vibe to it. And the part with the Leprous vocalist is great, though I can see how it'd be a bit much for some listeners who don't like those kinds of vocals.

EDIT:
Veil actually feels a bit different from FBTE for me, the calm section has a different vibe I guess. The Architect is definitely similar in my book, though.

Heh, it's the other way around for me.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: ariich on January 24, 2019, 12:17:29 PM
They've had a song like that on every album apart from Visions. My ranking of those songs would go:

1. Falling Back to Earth
2. Drowning in the Flood
3. Veil
4. The Architect
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Crow on January 24, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
same @ ariich's ranking tbh
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - The Finals: Round 3!
Post by: Elite on January 24, 2019, 11:05:20 PM
I’ll get round 4 up sometime today during work. Couldn’t do it last night, because I was away from home.