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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: gmillerdrake on January 14, 2019, 07:35:57 AM
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Anyone planning to watch? I watched the first episode last night....it was pretty good. It has a very cool vibe going on....definitely more of a vibe in the line of season 1.
The way they are telling this story is pretty neat....it's taking place in three different stages of time. There are (2) episodes available to view but I got sleepy.
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I'll definitely watch, but I don't think I am gonna renew my HBO sub until the whole season is done. Netflix has spoiled me, where I just want to watch the whole season at once.
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Netflix has spoiled me, where I just want to watch the whole season at once.
Totally get it. I think it's spoiled a ton of people. It's nice to be able to watch a whole season of 'whatever'. But, I don't mind going back to the 'normal' way of watching every now and then
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Honestly I gave up on S02 and never finished it. It never really clicked for me like S01 but i'll give this a chance.
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Honestly I gave up on S02 and never finished it. It never really clicked for me like S01 but i'll give this a chance.
As I mentioned....I've only watched (1) episode BUT.....it has the 'feel' of season 1. The way they're telling this story gives me the sense that this is going to be a pretty good season.
Season 2 felt 'forced'....the story was pretty bland.....it just never felt 'real'. Season 1 felt 'real' and that is what I sense from even just one episode of season 3. It feels 'real' and it's grabbed me right off the bat.
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I didn't watch but I plan on checking it out.
Netflix has spoiled me, where I just want to watch the whole season at once.
Totally get it. I think it's spoiled a ton of people. It's nice to be able to watch a whole season of 'whatever'. But, I don't mind going back to the 'normal' way of watching every now and then
I like both, sure it's fun to watch an entire show quickly, but also some shows are just great to watch and over analyze until the next episode. Game of Thrones is a good one and so is True Detective. There's typically a lot going on so I like to rewatch and then read into it. You typically don't take the time to do that when you binge watch and therefore often miss out of the small details.
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You typically don't take the time to do that when you binge watch and therefore often miss out of the small details.
Yep. This is one of the downsides of the binge watch. SO much info. at once it all kind of muttles together and you may miss some of the finer nuances of the writing/acting etc. etc.
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Saw the first two episodes and while it's trying to get back to the feel of Season 1 the leads just aren't as interesting as Rusty. The story feels a bit tame at the moment and I'm not really drawn to the backstories. I'll likely check out another episode or two but if it doesn't really pick up I'm not sure I'll continue with it.
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I enjoyed the first two episodes. After the first episode I though they were loosely basing the story on the West Memphis Three case but after the second episode that seemed less certain. Interested to see what develops.
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Saw the first two episodes and while it's trying to get back to the feel of Season 1 the leads just aren't as interesting as Rusty. The story feels a bit tame at the moment and I'm not really drawn to the backstories. I'll likely check out another episode or two but if it doesn't really pick up I'm not sure I'll continue with it.
Aw man....I’m the opposite. Not that I think that there’s a character on the show that’s on par with Rust Cohle.....that was a performance that will never be matched.....but I do think the story is interesting and the actors/actresses are doing an excellent job.
The tone of the show is much better than season 2. I accept the fact that Season 1 is the gold standard to which any season will be compared to....but this season thus far has held it’s own quite well.
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The way they let Wayne Hays break the 4th wall during the flashbacks, was that something they did in previous seasons because I can't remember but somehow it's feels familiar?
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First two episodes were amazing, Ali and Dorff's acting was flawless. I'm a little hesitant to speculate anything on how events unfold since I find most of the joy of watching this show is not having that much of an idea of how things will unfold. I like the story tidbits we have so far and am very intrigued with the timelines. Great start so far.
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The way they let Wayne Hays break the 4th wall during the flashbacks, was that something they did in previous seasons because I can't remember but somehow it's feels familiar?
No....this show hasn’t done that. But I like it.....it drives home the fact that we’re seeing a memory and not ‘reality’......which also adds the aspect of everything we’re seeing there may not be 100% accurate. Which...I think is an underlying theme. A lot has been made of memories and recalling those memories.
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Ah ok, yea I like it too. Only seen one episode but I enjoyed it.
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Three episodes in, and though it's not as good as the original, that's an awfully high bar to reach. So far, it's coming pretty close.
btw...was there a season 2? ;) Made it through five episodes, which was at least two too many.
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Three episodes in, and though it's not as good as the original, that's an awfully high bar to reach. So far, it's coming pretty close.
Agreed. It’s a foregone conclusion that Season 1 was just an incredible show/effort by all involved. Gonna be tough to ever top it.....especially since it’s greatness has now compounded with the ‘lore’ surrounding it.
That being said, this season thus far has been right up there with it. I love the feel and tone of the show.....the acting by all 8nvolved has been on point......and I’m very intrigued by the story.
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Pretty awesome. There's no way the series will ever reach season 1 levels of intrigue and cohesion. A lot of people don't realize that a huge force behind season 1 was Cary Joji Fukunaga. Having an entire season (or series) directed by one man makes such a massive, incredible difference that it's night and day. Directors are fucking assholes, they control and/or want to control EVERYTHING. Sometimes....only sometimes, giving a man who is talented enough that kind of control is the magic recipe, and that is the kind of director that CJF is. We'll never have that kind of synchronicity again, that might as well be a fact. To me, it is; because there's no two people in this world that have the same mindset or ideals. You can come close, but that slight difference in thought processes is going to change things. A lot.
That said, this season does it's best to replicate the utterly, painfully original and isolated experience that True Detective S1 was. S1 might as well hold the mantle for the TD name, and to many it does (myself included). This won't get there for the reason alone that it has different ideals and perspectives on what it "should" be behind it, referring to the directors. It's kind of like trying to replicate a menu of meals created by a singular genius chef by taking a bunch of really good chefs that all have different backgrounds. That one chef has such a mindset that no one can come close to creating his own very experienced, very delicate menu. Those other chefs...sure, they're good, but they're all different minds with different tastes and styles and ideals behind what they want to create. It's just not going to happen. It's not even that it "can" happen. It fuckin' WON'T. :lol
Anyway, it's interesting and fun, for sure. I just don't get why HBO can't pay up to get Fukunaga back. But I'm saying that as an ignorant outside source. Fukunaga probably has a lot more integrity than to be swayed by money and if he doesn't have the innovation or motivation, he'll say fuck it (is what I'm thinking). Or someone else of that calibur. But having different directors for a multitude of episodes IMMEDIATELY kills my hope for the series, quite honestly. After S1, it's just so painfully obvious that the need for a singular mind, a singular vision and very concentrated view is absolutely necessary. This is just an imitation. Probably. But I'd LOVE to be proven wrong. It's hopeful so far though! It's got my interest and that's more than what S2 had in even the halfway point. (Actually by the halfway point I was like "Okay this is American Horror Story all over again" :facepalm: )
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Also heavily into season 3. Great acting and the story is interesting enough. Noticed in the credits both Harrelson and Mc Conaghey are involved in this show as executive producers.
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I didn't watch but I plan on checking it out.
Netflix has spoiled me, where I just want to watch the whole season at once.
Totally get it. I think it's spoiled a ton of people. It's nice to be able to watch a whole season of 'whatever'. But, I don't mind going back to the 'normal' way of watching every now and then
I like both, sure it's fun to watch an entire show quickly, but also some shows are just great to watch and over analyze until the next episode. Game of Thrones is a good one and so is True Detective. There's typically a lot going on so I like to rewatch and then read into it. You typically don't take the time to do that when you binge watch and therefore often miss out of the small details.
Completely agreed. :tup
Need to catch up, only watched first episode so far but it was brilliant. Season 2 was so meh for me overall, but this had everything I loved about season 1. Excited for the rest of the season.
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Another fantastic episode!
Why do I get the feeling the killer/kidnapper is staring us right in the face?
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Such an amazing set of episodes so far. Goes without saying that I hate waiting so long between episodes.
Not sure if it's just me but when you're so engrossed in the dialogue and just paying attention the entire time, the episode just flies by even though this was the longest one yet.
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Such an amazing set of episodes so far. Goes without saying that I hate waiting so long between episodes.
Not sure if it's just me but when you're so engrossed in the dialogue and just paying attention the entire time, the episode just flies by even though this was the longest one yet.
Agreed, loving this season so far. Whod'a'thunk? that waiting 7 days is a long time between episodes. Thanks a lot streaming sights, now we're all spoiled. When I'm into a show that's sitting there, I can't even think about waiting a week to watch the next episode....it's BOOM done, unless something of higher priority arises.
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I'm not reading through the recent comments, just coming back in to say I watched Episode 1 last night and immediately liked it more than season 2. I'm in, I like the 3 way time line in this so far and while sure the missing teenagers seems like something we've seen before, I'm intrigued for sure. I expect to catch up by the end of the week and then I'll come back so I am not spoiled.
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Damn this season is such a great return to form. Everything about it is so compelling.
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Watched 5 episodes this week and now I can't wait for the next to be released.
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Watched 5 episodes this week and now I can't wait for the next to be released.
Going to watch the 5th tonight, but damn I am loving this after watching the first 4 last week. Actually gave me something to look forward to while returning to my hotel each night on my business trip.
Absolutely loving the 3 time lines and now seeing more characters, Roland, and his progression through the timelines. It's a story that is pretty interesting and intriguing. Feels much more like season 1 and the actors are great so far. Really makes season 2 feel like it's not only in the past, but the forgetful past. THIS is what True Detective is all about IMO. Fantastic TV.
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I had legit tears in my eyes from the last 10 minutes of this recent episode (ep 5) so freaking good.
Mahershala Ali has been awesome as Wayne BUT can we give some love to Stephen Dorff as well? That dude has been incredible as Roland. They’ve both been great together and that’s why this shoe feels like it’s returned to form. Harrelson and Mconahay were a perfect fit and Ali and Dorff have been as well.
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I had legit tears in my eyes from the last 10 minutes of this recent episode (ep 5) so freaking good.
Mahershala Ali has been awesome as Wayne BUT can we give some love to Stephen Dorff as well? That dude has been incredible as Roland. They’ve both been great together and that’s why this shoe feels like it’s returned to form. Harrelson and Mconahay were a perfect fit and Ali and Dorff have been as well.
Yeah, that was an awesome scene, finally together at that age timeline. Great episode in all! Can't wait see what's coming. :tup
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Yup, was looking forward to seeing those two in the latest timeline, definitely an emotional meet up. Now that I am all caught up I just want to keep watching and not have to wait for another episode
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The acting by everyone has been through the roof this season. Scooty McNairy is fantastic, goes without saying the two detectives are outstanding and their chemistry together is a joy to watch.
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Is it even necessary to come into this thread and say how awesome this show has been this season? Another fantastic episode....they'd dropped enough clues thus far to where the reveal at the end of the last episode wasn't unexpected....but still a bit of a 'wow...ok' type moment.
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Is it even necessary to come into this thread and say how awesome this show has been this season? Another fantastic episode....they'd dropped enough clues thus far to where the reveal at the end of the last episode wasn't unexpected....but still a bit of a 'wow...ok' type moment.
Yeah.... just saw the sixth episode. Why do we have to wait another week for the next!!!
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To let it sink in, so that we have time to think and dwell on it a bit more. It deserves it.
A+++++++
A recap for the season up through Episode 6 (no spoilers for those who are caught up). It helps put some of the pieces into place.
https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/tv/2019/2/10/18217465/true-detective-season-3-episode-6-recap
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^^^ That's a great breakdown of the season thus far.
If I had to guess I'd say Wayne and Roland figure it out that it's the Hoyt family....get to the pink room.....kill Harris and hide him and set Julie free....free to run away and hide from it all. That'd explain why 'modern day' Roland is so worried/curious as to why Wayne still wants to figure this out after 'what they did'....and why he's always asking about what he's told the camera crew.
All I know for certain is that this show has completely washed away the bad taste I had for it after season 2....this feels like the second season....a perfect compliment to season 1.
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Watched last night and just loving it, another great episode. One thing I haven't done since I watched quickly instead of every week, is read into each episode so I didn't pick up all the clues to have a good idea going into that episode, but I'm reading some stuff this morning and it all makes sense. Looking forward to seeing the last two episodes and having it all wrapped up. A fantastic season of this show, I hope Pizzolatto has more stories up his sleave like this and season 1 to make a 4th.
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Just one more episode now.... last one was soo good I didn't want it to end.... espescially when it did
Love how it tied in too
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Just one more episode now.... last one was soo good I didn't want it to end.... espescially when it did
Love how it tied in too
I’m gonna be that guy and say it......this season is arguably better than season one. I love season one....it was incredible......but this season has been just as good if not better. The way they are telling this story with the different eras of time tied in to Wayne’s dementia.....it’s pretty friggin awesome.
Plus the acting is as every bit as good as season one.....and I’m giving the edge to the combo of Ali and Dorf. Mconahay and Harrelson were good but Mconahay carried them. Both Ali and Dorf are freaking amazing in this season.
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you're missing one, no make that two, very important arguments in favor of season 1
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you're missing one, no make that two, very important arguments in favor of season 1
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That was an incredible scene. But alas......I’d still give the nod to this season.
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Tonight.....can't wait :metal I love the fact they've crafted this season in such a way to where we kind of 'know' what's going on and what happened....but still have no concrete idea as to the how's and why's.
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Well put...looking forward to this with great anticipation. I hope ALL of the ‘hows’ and ‘whys’ are covered.
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Since people will be checking in here a bit this week....we know of Mahershala Ali in 'Moonlight' 'Green Book', 'House of Cards', etc...
Well, we had a pleasant surprise last night: we watched 'Backbeat' from 1994, focusing on The Beatles of 60-62. It centered around Astrid Kirchherr, played by Sheryl Lee, and Stuart Sutcliffe, played by none other than Stephen Dorff. Damn well done, mostly accurate (maybe an event or two were slightly combined due to time constraints), and something I wish 'Bohemian Rhapsody' had been.
Highly recommended.
(will watch the finale tomorrow night....damn Oscars!)
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I knew I was gonna be disappointed by the ending...
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I knew I was gonna be disappointed by the ending...
Aw man..... I totally dug the ending. Loved the finale episode as well.
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I knew I was gonna be disappointed by the ending...
Aw man..... I totally dug the ending. Loved the finale episode as well.
I thought it was a really cool way to wrap up everything. I quite enjoyed the entire finale episode too. Don’t want to elaborate more due to spoiling. :tup
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I liked the fact that:
Hayes 'solved' the case.....even though he doesn't 'know' he did. I thought that was really well done. I think that Julie 'knew' who he was as they hinted at that with a couple of her facial expressions....but all in all I thought that was a perfect way to handle this. Ameliea's 'ghost' or memory or whatever that helped Wayne work out what actually happened was pretty neat. And, I liked the second to last scene of Wayne on the porch with everyone. That final scene was a bit chilling as well and kind of perfect....Wayne back in the jungle...alone....kind of symbolic of his condition. I'm taking that to mean that the final zoom in on his eye meant the disease overtook him and he may never know anything ever again?
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As I come across more individuals directly affected by Alzheimer's, this series did something that should be highly praised. They led on with a despicable undertone of pedophilia and trafficking. They took a whole different approach to a 'scary' situation. They scared us with the ultimate, realistic mindf*ck.....that of losing one's own mind.
And hat's off to Ali and Dorff. Hays and Roland are characters that will never be forgotten.
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And hat's off to Ali and Dorff. Hays and Roland are characters that will never be forgotten.
They're performance's were every bit as good....I'd argue better.....than McConaughey's in Season 1. Dorff especially surprised me with that performance. I had no idea he had that type of ability.
As I come across more individuals directly affected by Alzheimer's, this series did something that should be highly praised. They led on with a despicable undertone of pedophilia and trafficking. They took a whole different approach to a 'scary' situation. They scared us with the ultimate, realistic mindf*ck.....that of losing one's own mind.
And, I think that is why we got the 'resolution' we did with the actual Purcel case. Even Haye's says to Roland after they found out...."I don't feel like I have any closure". It's because like you mentioned....this season wasn't about a police case.....it was about a horrific disease that slowly murders someone...taking all they've ever had.
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Spoilers for the finale...
I completely understand if a majority of people felt underwhelmed by the finale. The buildup was so great throughout the entire season that I'm sure everyone was hoping for either a dark twist or major confrontation of sorts in the end.
I definitely loved the happy ending. There were quite a few red herrings thrown in especially with two cliffhanger episodes, I think sometimes there isn't much to the story and while that can seem like an easy way out or not a satisfying conclusion I personally don't mind it. And on reflection, not everything is happy since Julie's dad seemed to have suffered so much and I don't know if it really was suicide or a staged one. I'm unclear on what happened to Scooty McNairy after he saw Julie in the pink room.
On the other hand we were treated to an amazing season of top class acting by the two main leads. I personally think Stephen Dorff is the silent MVP of the season, we all know Ali can act so no real surprise there, but Steven Dorff and Scooty's performance was off the charts and also on another level.
All in all I'm satisfied with the season, I look forward to rewatching it and grab the boxset when it comes out.
Favorite part of that episode was Roland getting into a fight in the bar. The dialogue was hilarious!
Another thought I had was that that last part of zooming into Hays' eye was him dying and the last couple of things he remembered was his proposal to Amelia and the exit to the door with the bright white light sorta alludes to it. I do wonder though if the shot of him being in Vietnam was a nod to his personal hell.
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I definitely believe that shot that zoomed into his eye at the end was the disease taking it’s final hold on him....it was written on his face......and I too believe that memory of him proposing to Amelia was his final memory.
I think the jungle shot was both his personal hell as you said and a symbolic gesture of that hell.....just him.....alone.....wandering in a strange unfamiliar land.....
And there’s no doubt that Steve Dorf was the MVP. As I said earlier.....I had no idea he had those type of acting chops. He freaking killed it. That’s why I put this season above Season 1. You had three actors....shoot four if you count Amelia’s actress.....that just were incredible this season. Season 1 was all McCanoughey and stellar action. Harrelson was OK but he basically played the same character he plays in 90% of his movies. Dorf was fantastic in this.....as was Ali.
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My coworker had been bitching about the finale saying he thought it was anti-climatic and I hadn't had a chance to watch so during lunch today we watched it. I enjoyed the ending. It made sense and I was a bit surprised honestly with the "shes dead" and "well no she's not dead" kind of shift there and of course the whole memory loss part was just icing on the cake on how good of a story this was and how well it was portrayed by the actors. :clap: bravo True Detective, fantastic season
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Yeah totally loved the ending and the whole series. Finally ready to start into season two, I guess. :biggrin:
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Finally ready to start into season two, I guess. :biggrin:
Good luck with that. I hope you dig it....it’s got a whole different vibe that Season 1 and Season 3.
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Gotta admit, upon first watch, I was underwhelmed with the finale.
But after pondering it a little, and rewatching it, I liked it a lot more.
Kudos to Michael Rooker, who is always good in everything, no matter how small his role.
And someone give an award of some kind to Stephen Dorff. He did an incredible job in this role, especially compared to his previous body of work. When he called that guy a cyclops in the finale, I almost lost it.
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Kudos to Michael Rooker, who is always good in everything, no matter how small his role.
And someone give an award of some kind to Stephen Dorff. He did an incredible job in this role, especially compared to his previous body of work. When he called that guy a cyclops in the finale, I almost lost it.
Agreed on both points here. Michael Rooker pretty much nails whatever role he’s cast in.
And I wholeheartedly agree that there needs to be some sort of widespread recognition for what Dorf did with this character he played. He was every bit as on point as Ali was....maybe even better at times given Roland West’s range of emotion was ‘different’ than Wayne Hays.
I still love yet am haunted by the way they seemingly tied in the last scene of the flashback to Hays in Vietnam...alone on scout patrol to the (presumably) Alzheimer’s finally taking complete control over Hays mind on the porch. That was chilling.
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Okay folks, I've got a probably stupid question here. I haven't read the latest posts because I'm trying to avoid spoilers, so if anyone can answer this without getting into details, that'd be great.
I watched Season 1 (someone from DTF recommended it to me, I usually don't watch TV shows, I think it was Tomislav) and it was fabulous. Really well-executed and fantastic show. I've heard a lot of bad things about Season 2, so I didn't watch it.
Now I'm hearing a lot of praise about Season 3, so I think I might actually dive into it, so here's the question: are the seasons completely separate or should I watch S2 before getting to S3? Or can I just start with Season 3? How does this show work in this regard?
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The seasons are totally separate. You do not have to see season 2 (or season 1) to enjoy season 3.
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The seasons are totally separate. You do not have to see season 2 (or season 1) to enjoy season 3.
Yep. Fire away on Season 3. Upon further reflection I still stick by my opinion Season 3 is ‘better’ than Season 1.
Season 1 was incredible but it was carried by Mconahay. Season 3 has multiple different characters that are fantastic....both phenomenal seasons and stories but the edge goes to S3 for me.
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The seasons are totally separate. You do not have to see season 2 (or season 1) to enjoy season 3.
Yep. Fire away on Season 3. Upon further reflection I still stick by my opinion Season 3 is ‘better’ than Season 1.
Season 1 was incredible but it was carried by Mconahay. Season 3 has multiple different characters that are fantastic....both phenomenal seasons and stories but the edge goes to S3 for me.
IDK, I'll give the slight edge to season 1..I thought Woody was really good in that too. I think as a whole, the pairing in season 3 was stronger, but the stories for both were soooo strong. :hefdaddy
I didn't hate season 2 and would recommend it.
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The seasons are totally separate. You do not have to see season 2 (or season 1) to enjoy season 3.
Yep. Fire away on Season 3. Upon further reflection I still stick by my opinion Season 3 is ‘better’ than Season 1.
Season 1 was incredible but it was carried by Mconahay. Season 3 has multiple different characters that are fantastic....both phenomenal seasons and stories but the edge goes to S3 for me.
IDK, I'll give the slight edge to season 1..I thought Woody was really good in that too. I think as a whole, the pairing in season 3 was stronger, but the stories for both were soooo strong. :hefdaddy
I didn't hate season 2 and would recommend it.
I didn’t ‘hate’ season two either.....it just missed the mark for me. Had that been the first season it’d have been received better I think. Thing is....that first season was SO good that S2 was in a tough spot right off the bat because the comparison to S1 was inevitable...and it fell short of those expectations.
Why I give the (slight) edge to S3 was the way they incorporated telling/showing the story of the Alzheimer’s taking over Hayes. I think it was so well done....especially that final scene....that’s what gives S3 the photo finish victory in my eyes.
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The seasons are totally separate. You do not have to see season 2 (or season 1) to enjoy season 3.
Yep. Fire away on Season 3. Upon further reflection I still stick by my opinion Season 3 is ‘better’ than Season 1.
Season 1 was incredible but it was carried by Mconahay. Season 3 has multiple different characters that are fantastic....both phenomenal seasons and stories but the edge goes to S3 for me.
IDK, I'll give the slight edge to season 1..I thought Woody was really good in that too. I think as a whole, the pairing in season 3 was stronger, but the stories for both were soooo strong. :hefdaddy
I didn't hate season 2 and would recommend it.
I didn’t ‘hate’ season two either.....it just missed the mark for me. Had that been the first season it’d have been received better I think. Thing is....that first season was SO good that S2 was in a tough spot right off the bat because the comparison to S1 was inevitable...and it fell short of those expectations.
Why I give the (slight) edge to S3 was the way they incorporated telling/showing the story of the Alzheimer’s taking over Hayes. I think it was so well done....especially that final scene....that’s what gives S3 the photo finish victory in my eyes.
Definitely agree with you, that last seen was quite thought provoking as a viewer, and as a whole, the Alzheimer’s storyline was an added depth. Great season!! The only reason I give season 1 a nudge above is because they had nothing before it......it was so original and I just find that once something is created, it’s there for improvement or just change which is why I wish S3 was S2, but would S3 be as good if not for them falling a little short on S2? I just want an S4. ;)
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Season 1 has star power but I like the story of season 3 better, acting in both are superb either way. Season 2 was alright. I didn't hate it, but it was too complicated, sort of like how the last season of West World got too complicated that it takes away from the enjoyment. I enjoy complicated plots, I like reading about it and analyzing and trying to understand. I know we all did that here when season 2 aired, but it felt like it was just too much and in the end, the season as a whole was less interesting. And looking back, I have no desire to ever rewatch it where as seasons 1 and 3 would be great to rewatch.