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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: llucroig on November 24, 2018, 10:49:17 AM
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Hi!
I think it might be interesting to discuss about the eq, soundtrack and our feelings about the short teaser that was published! ;D :tup
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Nah
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How about this; what do you think the song title of the song is?
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How about this; what do you think the song title of the song is?
Paralyzed, maybe? "Be set free".
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Hopefully not Barstool Warrior
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How about this; what do you think the song title of the song is?
"Distance Over Time (Album Teaser)" :P
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How about this; what do you think the song title of the song is?
I'm thinking either Fall Into the Light or At Wit's End.
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But if it’s none of those tracks, what could the song title be? (Spoiler - you cannot hear the title in the clip released)
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It's either 'Fall into the light' or a title-track. I don't think it's Barstool Warrior as it was described by JP as a progressive and melodic track, but in the end this is just speculation :metal
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But if it’s none of those tracks, what could the song title be? (Spoiler - you cannot hear the title in the clip released)
Long time DT fan, but first forum post!
So this has peaked my curiosity, and I wonder if this is the same song title that bosk keeps teasing in the other thread.
I still have no idea, but the lyrics could be related to a hypnotist(?) so I’ll take a stab and say The Hypnotist. Though this seems to generic for bosk to be so excited about a track title.
And going further, I’ll say it’s related to the SFAM hypnotist since there has been an effort to include the SFAM anniversary with the new album promotion. The Treasure Hunt did end with the phone number to call and audio of the hypnotist.
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Illumination Theory Pt.2?
'Don't be afraid of letting go
Open your heart, be set free'
'If you open up your eyes
And you put your trust in love
On those cold and endless nights
You will never be alone
Passion glows within your heart
Like a furnace burning bright
Until you struggle through the dark
You'll never know that you're alive'
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Illumination Theory Pt.2?
'Don't be afraid of letting go
Open your heart, be set free'
'If you open up your eyes
And you put your trust in love
On those cold and endless nights
You will never be alone
Passion glows within your heart
Like a furnace burning bright
Until you struggle through the dark
You'll never know that you're alive'
There’s been speculation about one song being a sequel to a previous one, so I guess this is possible :eek
EDIT: The title track suggestion is quite good too.
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Now we're getting somewhere! More ideas? :)
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How about this; what do you think the song title of the song is?
Maybe that song is named the same as the album :o ;D
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It is not.
It does share something with another song that was the first song released from a previous album though...
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Last few first releases:
The Gift of Music
The Enemy Inside
On the Backs of Angels
Rite of Passage? (I wasn't a DT fan yet, so I'm guessing).
Of these, the closest sound-wise is The Enemy Inside
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New single confirmed: The Enemy Outside
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New single confirmed: The Enemy Outside
If we're going full opposite, it would be "A Friend Outside"
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They could be doing something similar to Rush's Fear tracks.. one of them was called The Enemy Within :lol
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It does share something with another song that was the first song released from a previous album though...
Pull Me Under Pt. 2
Finally, after all this time, that sudden ending gets resolved!
:rollin
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Welcome to a NEW MILLENNIUM!!!!!!
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New single confirmed: The Enemy Outside
If we're going full opposite, it would be "A Friend Outside"
A song about aliens? :justjen
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It is not.
It does share something with another song that was the first song released from a previous album though...
I'm with my friends above that this song is somehow related to Illumination Theory, maybe exploring another point of view on the topic of life and death.
Plus, I believe they are going to use that nugget at the end of IT to connect the songs somehow, let's see, getting really excited with these teases from Bosk and Noxon :metal
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What if the teaser isn't from one song? What if it's from 2 songs? Or more?
:omg:
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What if the teaser isn't from one song? What if it's from 2 songs? Or more?
:omg:
Then...that would actually be pretty consistent with how teasers are usually done, so... ???
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i think it's safe to confirm that it is from one song :)
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So, thanks to our friends Noxon and Bosk, we know so far that the teaser:
- Is an snippet from one song only.
- Isn't from a title track.
- Isn't from Fall Into The Light, At Wit's End or Barstool Warrior (not sure about Paralyzed).
- The song is a sequel or related to a previous song, the first one they released from a specific album.
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Pull Me Up ;D
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New single confirmed: The Enemy Outside
:clap:
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I know the answer, so, I can tell you that it won't be an impossible guess; having in mind what Noxon said about the releases, and the snippet lyrics, it could be guessed.
I hope that this hint isn't against any unwritten rule or something. Anyone with power here, delete it or tell me to do so, if necessary
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It’s okay, you’re only using released information.
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What seemed a random post - a newbie opening a new thread rather than joining the already existing discussion - has now turned into one of the most intriguing ones!
So far Illumination Theory pt. 2 sounds realistic as an answer, I wonder if they stretched back to the Portnoy days to create a sequel, or they focused on one of the Mangini songs....
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Analyzing all the first songs released from the previous albums, the one I feel can be in some way connected to the few words we heard from the teaser is "The Enemy Inside".
Even if In TEI we're inside the protagonist's mind, while here it's like someone is talking to him.
The first released from SFAM I think it was "Home", but I don't see "Sweet HOME Metropolis" like a potential title for this song.
So my guess is: The Enemy somewhere else!!!
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Sequel ideas:
A Debt In Truths
Position Retriever
The Retaeht Mraed
The Living Foot
Burn Everything And Run
Beforedeath
The Twos When Harm To Rise The Moon
Do It Later
Push Me Over
Yesterday
Do It Later (the sequel)
Around & Around & Around & Around
City pt. 1
The Threes When Harm To Rise The Moon
Snooze Button
Forgetting To Die
4:20
Spiderman theme
Journey to the dark web
Incognito Mode
Mutism
The Quiet Dude
Reflections
I don't wanna die
Falling Lights On An Awakening
Journey to the dark web (aftermath)
Intergalactic shirt
Party Like It's 1997
Thee Nay Myself
Ecuadorian Clouds
Empty Hours
Baptism By Fire
Masterchef
A Day At The Beach
End my suffering
Asthma
Anna Conda
Path Of Sad
The Time Warp
Underture 1969
Deja Vu (i've been here in the place before)
Through My Verbal Communication
My existence
Beforedeath pt. 2
Through Zir Corneas
Homesexual
The Groove Of Forever
Two Last Times
The Sprint Carnies Off
Jailbreak
i'm too laze to come up with more :P
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Sequel ideas:
A Debt In Truths
Position Retriever
The Retaeht Mraed
The Living Foot
Burn Everything And Run
Beforedeath
The Twos When Harm To Rise The Moon
Do It Later
Push Me Over
Yesterday
Do It Later (the sequel)
Around & Around & Around & Around
City pt. 1
The Threes When Harm To Rise The Moon
Snooze Button
Forgetting To Die
4:20
Spiderman theme
Journey to the dark web
Incognito Mode
Mutism
The Quiet Dude
Reflections
I don't wanna die
Falling Lights On An Awakening
Journey to the dark web (aftermath)
Intergalactic shirt
Party Like It's 1997
Thee Nay Myself
Ecuadorian Clouds
Empty Hours
Baptism By Fire
Masterchef
A Day At The Beach
End my suffering
Asthma
Anna Conda
Path Of Sad
The Time Warp
Underture 1969
Deja Vu (i've been here in the place before)
Through My Verbal Communication
My existence
Beforedeath pt. 2
Through Zir Corneas
Homesexual
The Groove Of Forever
Two Last Times
The Sprint Carnies Off
Jailbreak
i'm too laze to come up with more :P
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Analyzing all the first songs released from the previous albums, the one I feel can be in some way connected to the few words we heard from the teaser is "The Enemy Inside".
Even if In TEI we're inside the protagonist's mind, while here it's like someone is talking to him.
The first released from SFAM I think it was "Home", but I don't see "Sweet HOME Metropolis" like a potential title for this song.
So my guess is: The Enemy somewhere else!!!
I find this theory interesting and reminds me Rush's Fear Quadrilogy. I think the theme of TEI has a lot of potential do expand, so it's my "vote" :tup
Anyway, It's more realistic to think that it's a sort of a sequel to a lyric written by JP, which leaves these first singles out of equation: Status Seeker, PMU, Lie, BMS and Home. Idon't remember the first single from 6D, 8v and, SC. I don't think they would do a sequel to ARoP, because it's not much a fans favourite. Neither TGoM, because it's too much linked to TA story line. I guess a pt.2 to OTBoA has also a chance.
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I'm not fully sure where the idea of a sequel came from...
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It is not.
It does share something with another song that was the first song released from a previous album though...
I guess that's because of it. So maybe this has another meaning?
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I'm not fully sure where the idea of a sequel came from...
So it's not the sequel but the title has something share with another song?
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Could it be argued that OTBoA and TEI have similar motifs as far as the lyrics? Could it be a continuation of that? I wouldn’t rule out OTBoA because, after all, it was nominated for a Grammy.
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I'm not fully sure where the idea of a sequel came from...
So it's not the sequel but the title has something share with another song?
That's how I read it.. And maybe that song is PMU.. We already know this song and DOT's cover share references to Hamlet..
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What baffles me a bit is the sonic quality of the snippet on YT. I know YT in general shouldn't be the taken as HQ audio quality, but I seriously hope they actively uploaded a low quality version. I am not talking about the balance of instruments (I think the drums are loudest in the mix since MM joining). For me it sounds a bit muddy and just low quality. Strange decision to do that when they are talking about it being the best sounding DT record ever. I mean they could have just given us better audio quality in the upload then to give evidence.
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Consider the fact that this was cut together and edited into a video (compression one) and then uploaded to youtube (compression two). That will impact the audio a lot. I do not think the final version will sound like that, but I haven't heard the final version myself yet, so I can't say for certain what it WILL sound like.
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Ultimately, I agree with you - since we haven't actually heard the CD we cannot know how it's going to sound.
But I have to say - this argument does not give me much hope. You could say that about every album teaser by any band on Youtube, you could even say that about music videos on Youtube (which are ultimately created by someone overlaying the master audio track on top of a video, compressing it, and uploading to Youtube).
Yet most of these videos sound just fine.
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I think the drums are loudest in the mix since MM joining
:huh:
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Anyway, Bosk said that 4 additional song titles are out there. How come nobody found out yet? :D
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What?! Everything is a treasure hunt these days? :D
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I've looked everywhere for the 4 new track titles and couldn't find anything :'(
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I've looked everywhere for the 4 new track titles and couldn't find anything :'(
But did you looked inside yourself?... Remember, TALW..
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I'm not fully sure where the idea of a sequel came from...
So it's not the sequel but the title has something share with another song?
So noxon, is it related to an older song in a similar manner to how OaMoT and TtT are related?
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That is a good comparison indeed.
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Or maybe like TOWHTSTS and A Nightmare to Remember...
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At Wit's End as sequel to Wither?
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That is a good comparison indeed.
:tup
For that matter, could the connection be akin to The Mirror and the 12 Step Suite?
Or maybe like TOWHTSTS and A Nightmare to Remember...
Huh? I must've missed that one - did the band ever make any sort of connection to those 2 songs?
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Or maybe like TOWHTSTS and A Nightmare to Remember...
Huh? I must've missed that one - did the band ever make any sort of connection to those 2 songs?
JP did.. I remember him saying it in an interview (and also in Lifting Shadows IIRC).. Both songs are about the car crash he and his family had when he was a kid..
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Or maybe like TOWHTSTS and A Nightmare to Remember...
Huh? I must've missed that one - did the band ever make any sort of connection to those 2 songs?
JP did.. I remember him saying it in an interview (and also in Lifting Shadows IIRC).. Both songs are about the car crash he and his family had when he was a kid..
Return of the Count of Tuscany
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Or maybe like TOWHTSTS and A Nightmare to Remember...
Huh? I must've missed that one - did the band ever make any sort of connection to those 2 songs?
JP did.. I remember him saying it in an interview (and also in Lifting Shadows IIRC).. Both songs are about the car crash he and his family had when he was a kid..
Got a link to the interview or know where in LS he talks about that? Never knew that.
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Or maybe like TOWHTSTS and A Nightmare to Remember...
Huh? I must've missed that one - did the band ever make any sort of connection to those 2 songs?
JP did.. I remember him saying it in an interview (and also in Lifting Shadows IIRC).. Both songs are about the car crash he and his family had when he was a kid..
Got a link to the interview or know where in LS he talks about that? Never knew that.
Sorry, but no I don't :-\.. The interview was from several years ago (couldn't worded it differently), and I don't have the book right now to look for that part (and if I had it that would still be very hard to find anyways)..
I thought it was common knowledge though (some in this forum -like in the appreciation thread about the song- have mentioned the similarities its lyrical content has with ANTR's).. Anyways, now that I searched on it, I think I might be not so spot on about it.. Found this comment in https://songmeanings.com/songs/view/85692/:
<<John Petrucci was interviewed about this song saying that it's about about a guy driving late at night who is starting to fall asleep behind the wheel. The character then slips into a dream that only lasts a moment, but in his dream he sees how his love ones would be affected by his death. By the end of the song he snaps back into consciousness and as JP puts it: "gets his shit together.">>
So yeah, maybe it was just my interpretation of what JP said which lead me to think that the song was precisely about that car crash rather than he himself saying it was about it.. But let be honest, whether intencionally or not, or explicitly or not, I think is obvious he was at least inspired by the accident..
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Sorry, but no I don't :-\.. The interview was from several years ago (couldn't worded it differently), and I don't have the book right now to look for that part (and if I had it that would still be very hard to find anyways)..
I just spent the last 30+ minutes paging through LS to see if I could find any comments about a connection between the two songs, and I couldn't find any at all. So I don't think there's anything in LS to connect them together.
So yeah, maybe it was just my interpretation of what JP said which lead me to think that the song was precisely about that car crash rather than he himself saying it was about it.. But let be honest, whether intencionally or not, or explicitly or not, I think is obvious he was at least inspired by the accident..
I think it probably was just you reading into JP's comments, but yeah, it's quite possible that his experience (as described in ANtR) did influence the lyrics he wrote for TOWHtStS.
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I know they're not connected at all, but for some reason I always thought that TKH and TMOLS shared a theme somehow.
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I'm not fully sure where the idea of a sequel came from...
So it's not the sequel but the title has something share with another song?
So noxon, is it related to an older song in a similar manner to how OaMoT and TtT are related?
What's the thing between these two?
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Only a Matter of Time is autobiographical, about DT's struggle to break out and find success.
Take the Time is also autobiographical, about DT's continued struggle in the period after WDADU
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Anyway, Bosk said that 4 additional song titles are out there. How come nobody found out yet? :D
What if they were in treasure hunt? There were some good names for songs
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Anyway, Bosk said that 4 additional song titles are out there. How come nobody found out yet? :D
What if they were in treasure hunt? There were some good names for songs
Hidden By Design.
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Sorry, but no I don't :-\.. The interview was from several years ago (couldn't worded it differently), and I don't have the book right now to look for that part (and if I had it that would still be very hard to find anyways)..
I just spent the last 30+ minutes paging through LS to see if I could find any comments about a connection between the two songs, and I couldn't find any at all. So I don't think there's anything in LS to connect them together.
So yeah, maybe it was just my interpretation of what JP said which lead me to think that the song was precisely about that car crash rather than he himself saying it was about it.. But let be honest, whether intencionally or not, or explicitly or not, I think is obvious he was at least inspired by the accident..
I think it probably was just you reading into JP's comments, but yeah, it's quite possible that his experience (as described in ANtR) did influence the lyrics he wrote for TOWHtStS.
I agree that I don't think there was an explicit connection made by JP. My recollection is that JP might have talked about the song's meaning in the WDADU documentary that was released with the 15th anniversary DVD. But PLEASE - don't feel compelled to spend 30+ minutes reviewing the documentary - I'd hate to have wasted your time trying to confirm my shoddy memory!!
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My "connection" thought was much more on the surface ;) Not like subject matter, just... yeah, you'll understand.
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My "connection" thought was much more on the surface
Beneath the Surface Pt 2: Above the Water's Edge
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I found and posted it on the controversial opinions thread ;D
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My "connection" thought was much more on the surface ;) Not like subject matter, just... yeah, you'll understand.
An Angels Point of View
. . . or something like that.
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I found and posted it on the controversial opinions thread ;D
Holy smokes -- is At Wits End a continuance of Anna Lee??
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I found and posted it on the controversial opinions thread ;D
Holy smokes -- is At Wits End a continuance of Anna Lee??
Could it have some link to Peruvian Skies too? Or is it strictly to Anna Lee, specially because of JLB penning the songs?
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You guys are all missing the real connection.
At Wit's End - Victoria's Revenge.
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But is the teaser from At Wit's End? Judging by the lyric, and the fact that it is the album opener, I would think the teaser is Untethered Angel. So probably connected (superficially) to OtBoA.
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superficially indeed ;)
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But is the teaser from At Wit's End? Judging by the lyric, and the fact that it is the album opener, I would think the teaser is Untethered Angel. So probably connected (superficially) to OtBoA.
And its Song #10.
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But is the teaser from At Wit's End? Judging by the lyric, and the fact that it is the album opener, I would think the teaser is Untethered Angel. So probably connected (superficially) to OtBoA.
Definitely. At first I thought Fall Into The Light would be the first single, but now I'm leaning more towards Untethered Angel. Either way, I hope we get one soon. I seriously cannot wait.
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Maybe in MPT3 victoria is back and angry and possesses someone else etc :D
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Maybe in MPT3 victoria is back and angry and possesses someone else etc :D
Prepare for Boskarius' anger to crush down on you!