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Title: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: The Letter M on November 16, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
Well, I didn't see anyone do it yet. Personally, I like DOT.

-Marc.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2018, 07:49:00 PM
DOT


I am not a nerd!
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Post by: gzarruk on November 16, 2018, 07:49:14 PM
DOT for me as well
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Post by: KevShmev on November 16, 2018, 08:44:16 PM
DOT


I am not a nerd!

Online evidence of you dancing says otherwise...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xcVNlhmFZCwgw/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2018, 08:47:38 PM
I call this one the KevShmev.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OldBreakableGallowaycow-max-1mb.gif)
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Setlist Scotty on November 16, 2018, 08:50:30 PM
DOT for me as well
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: KevShmev on November 16, 2018, 08:52:33 PM
I call this one the KevShmev.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OldBreakableGallowaycow-max-1mb.gif)

 :lol :biggrin:

As for the question, D/T is what I prefer.  Then again, I prefer P/G for Rush's Grace Under Pressure, so I like things a little clever, I suppose.
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Post by: PetFish on November 16, 2018, 08:53:14 PM
I like DoT, with a small "o", maybe give that as an option as well.
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Post by: MinistroRaven on November 16, 2018, 10:09:14 PM
I like DoT, with a small "o", maybe give that as an option as well.
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Post by: Ninjabait on November 16, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
DoT is what I prefer, but I'm really fine with any of them
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Post by: erwinrafael on November 16, 2018, 11:21:39 PM
D/T is nice.
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Post by: Fritzinger on November 17, 2018, 05:52:45 AM
I guess we need some new updates or we get bored and start discussing about things like this  :rollin

That being said...
I think I prefer DoT.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: MirrorMask on November 17, 2018, 06:34:18 AM
DOT, of course.

Anyway, I grew up hearing people talking about "Master" and "Justice", so "Distance", or damn typing "Distance Over Time" if you have a keyboard, is fine as well :D
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: lucasembarbosa on November 17, 2018, 07:21:18 AM
DoT seems like the title is "Distance of Time", as in ToT, ACoS, TCoT, TGoM, OTBoA, etc.

I'll go with DOT, all caps.
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Post by: Zydar on November 17, 2018, 07:28:09 AM
DOT or DoT is fine with me.
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Post by: Bertielee on November 17, 2018, 07:39:00 AM
DOT or DoT is fine with me.

I prefer DoT.
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Post by: krands85 on November 17, 2018, 08:14:21 AM
DoT seems like the title is "Distance of Time", as in ToT, ACoS, TCoT, TGoM, OTBoA, etc.

I'll go with DOT, all caps.
Yeah, I think DoT looks 'nicer', but it doesn't really make sense not to capitalise the O.

D/T would be OK, but it doesn't seem quite right to me, being the initials of both the band and of course the self-titled album.
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Post by: Bertielee on November 17, 2018, 08:21:27 AM
DoT seems like the title is "Distance of Time", as in ToT, ACoS, TCoT, TGoM, OTBoA, etc.

I'll go with DOT, all caps.
Yeah, I think DoT looks 'nicer', but it doesn't really make sense not to capitalise the O.

I think it makes sense in that for titles, normally the prepositions are written with the first letter in lower case (if my memory serves me well).
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Train of Naught on November 17, 2018, 08:34:00 AM
I'll be the odd one out to call it Speed! You're to blame for suggesting the option when people will be confused by my future posts btw  :angel:

Or maybe I'll call it Dream Th14ther
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Zydar on November 17, 2018, 08:45:01 AM
No Kevin Moore option?

DTF you disappoint.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 17, 2018, 08:57:31 AM
No Kevin Moore option?

DTF you disappoint.
Fixed.

Also, I will probably just type it out, because I don't like any of the other shortcuts I have seen.
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Post by: Adami on November 17, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
I'm gonna call it Speed.
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Post by: CDrice on November 17, 2018, 09:13:29 AM
Distance
   Time
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Post by: ToT-147 on November 17, 2018, 10:08:14 AM
Let just call it DT14 again.. :lol
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: krands85 on November 17, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
DoT seems like the title is "Distance of Time", as in ToT, ACoS, TCoT, TGoM, OTBoA, etc.

I'll go with DOT, all caps.
Yeah, I think DoT looks 'nicer', but it doesn't really make sense not to capitalise the O.

I think it makes sense in that for titles, normally the prepositions are written with the first letter in lower case (if my memory serves me well).
Ah, well I probably will go with DoT then :D For some reason I thought it was just 2 or 3 letter words you didn't capitalise in the middle of titles.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 17, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
DoT seems like the title is "Distance of Time", as in ToT, ACoS, TCoT, TGoM, OTBoA, etc.

I'll go with DOT, all caps.
Yeah, I think DoT looks 'nicer', but it doesn't really make sense not to capitalise the O.

I think it makes sense in that for titles, normally the prepositions are written with the first letter in lower case (if my memory serves me well).

Usually, yes, unless it is the first or last word, and not if it is part of a 2 word phrase.  Like, even though "on" is a preposition, it is more appropriate to capitalize it when typing out the Kansas song "Carry On Wayward Son," for example.

Bands almost always capitalize every word in song and album titles, because it looks bigger and better, but technically "over" should not be capitalized in the case of this album title, just like the band's 4th album is Falling into Infinity (not Falling Into Infinity).
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Öxölklöfför on November 17, 2018, 11:41:03 AM
Even if speed is the result of distance / time, it would feel weird to call it that. It isn't the album title.

Just think about it the other way, no one calls Pearl Jam's first album "5 + 5".  ;)
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 17, 2018, 10:02:44 PM
D/T. It’s unique and is a nice nod to the band name.
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Post by: JLa on November 18, 2018, 07:47:34 AM
TNO (The New One)  ;D
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Post by: Renzo on November 18, 2018, 11:38:23 AM
DT14  :hat
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Post by: gzarruk on November 18, 2018, 12:00:23 PM
GUASRN (give us a single right now).
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Scorpion on November 18, 2018, 12:12:50 PM
I like Speed, tbh.

But I will probably end up using whatever catches on.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Another_Won on November 18, 2018, 01:14:59 PM
We should call it whatever the gronsfeld cypher derivitave is. :lol
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: gzarruk on November 18, 2018, 01:15:51 PM
I’ll call it DOT anyway :lol
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Post by: RMGadelha on November 18, 2018, 01:18:46 PM
GUASRN (give us a single right now).

Yeah! Or at least another snippet so my need for a single doubles, lmao.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: ZirconBlue on November 18, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
D/T  It's a proper mathematical notation for the title.
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Post by: mikeyd23 on November 19, 2018, 07:37:30 AM
DOT
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Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2018, 09:07:03 AM
probably DOT although I voted Kevin Moore, because
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Chino on November 19, 2018, 09:20:27 AM
I like D/T, but I voted for DOT because I think it'll be less confusing.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 19, 2018, 11:18:46 AM
I will just call it George.
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Post by: noxon on November 26, 2018, 02:24:36 PM
Well, I just received an e-mail from JP, with the Subject being "D/T", so I think it's obvious what it should be :D
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: bosk1 on November 26, 2018, 02:27:30 PM
John Petrucci's opinion carries no weight here.
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Post by: gzarruk on November 26, 2018, 02:28:45 PM
Well, I just received an e-mail from JP, with the Subject being "D/T", so I think it's obvious what it should be :D

The master has spoken :hefdaddy


...I'll still call it DOT, though :lol
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: MirrorMask on November 26, 2018, 02:39:30 PM
John Petrucci's opinion carries no weight here.

 :rollin
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Post by: lonestar on November 26, 2018, 03:12:13 PM
I'm kind of surprised D/T is losing the poll that badly...it seems the type of overthought, nerdy shit you guys'd dig.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: bosk1 on November 26, 2018, 03:13:17 PM
John Petrucci's opinion carries no weight here.

 :rollin

Obviously, I'm kidding.  So please don't tell him I said that.  One of my favorite things is being alive, so I would hate for that state to come to a premature end.  Please.
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Post by: Another_Won on November 26, 2018, 05:17:48 PM
Well, I just received an e-mail from JP, with the Subject being "D/T", so I think it's obvious what it should be :D
We need to see the context to be sure they were actually referring to the album . . .  :lol
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Cool Chris on November 26, 2018, 05:24:25 PM
it seems the type of overthought, nerdy shit you guys'd dig.

I know this bugs me more than it should, but this is my problem. It isn't "nerdy shit." This is "nerdy shit." 

(https://i.imgur.com/tDC1Buo.jpg)

Typing D/T (or Rush's P/G) isn't "nerdy" in the nerdy-but-in-a-cool-way we are talking about. It is more like something a 12 year old would come up with to try and be cool but just made him seem more dorky.
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Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 26, 2018, 07:19:17 PM
Well, I just received an e-mail from JP, with the Subject being "D/T", so I think it's obvious what it should be :D
Are you allowed to share the content of that e-mail with us?
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Post by: Aythesryche on November 26, 2018, 08:13:13 PM
D/T it is for me.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 27, 2018, 09:43:28 AM
Well, I just received an e-mail from JP, with the Subject being "D/T", so I think it's obvious what it should be :D

Well we can +1 for D/T then on his behalf :lol

I think this debate in and of itself is already nerdy so whatever the end result is, I'm not sure it gets any nerdier than how we got to the result
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Post by: rab7 on November 27, 2018, 09:54:02 AM
Well, I just received an e-mail from JP, with the Subject being "D/T", so I think it's obvious what it should be :D
Are you allowed to share the content of that e-mail with us?

Wild guess:

Noxon - "Can I continue to reveal little tidbits about things I know, like the teaser?"

JP - "Yes"
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: Counselor of Prog on November 27, 2018, 12:59:37 PM
D/T.  Like a Rush p/g vibe.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: The Letter M on November 30, 2018, 12:36:34 AM
With regards to "Over" vs "over", someone on the wikipedia article for the album keeps changing it back to "Distance over Time" because wiki rules state that prepositions under 5 letters do not get capitalized in titles (in most cases).

However, the band's own press release definitively types the title as "Distance Over Time", so do we follow creator's intent and capitalize the O, or follow the wiki  (and probably some outdated English book's) rules and keep "over" lowercase?

Personally speaking, for all titles, I always capitalised letters just because it looks nicer to me, it helps keep song and album names apart from lyrics and other words, especially when italics and quotations aren't being used for albums and songs respectively.

-Marc.
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Post by: MirrorMask on November 30, 2018, 01:01:39 AM
To me, capitalizing words as "the", "of" and the likes seem weird. I prefer Scenes from a Memory to Scenes From A Memory. But really, it's not big deal.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 30, 2018, 07:52:20 AM
To me, capitalizing words as "the", "of" and the likes seem weird. I prefer Scenes from a Memory to Scenes From A Memory. But really, it's not big deal.

Yea, also under 5 letters seems like a lot of words to not capatilize in a title.  I never heard that rule and won't deny that maybe it is a thing in the English language, but I would have thought Over would be correct personally.  If that's the way it is on the album, then maybe someone needs to object to wikipedia on that and see what happens.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: noxon on November 30, 2018, 07:59:23 AM
If there's a compelling reason to use Over, like if that's how it's printed everywhere, it would be possible to argue an exception to the title caps rule. BUT; as it is now, the title is actually ALL CAPS on the cover, so...
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: lonestar on November 30, 2018, 08:48:39 AM
John Petrucci's opinion carries no weight here.

 :rollin

Obviously, I'm kidding.  So please don't tell him I said that.  One of my favorite things is being alive, so I would hate for that state to come to a premature end.  Please.

Screencapped for blackmail purposes.
Title: Re: What is your preferred abbreviation for Distance Over Time?
Post by: ToT-147 on November 30, 2018, 01:46:24 PM
However, the band's own press release definitively types the title as "Distance Over Time", so do we follow creator's intent and capitalize the O, or follow the wiki  (and probably some outdated English book's) rules and keep "over" lowercase?

Hahaa, it's not about following "wikipedia".. Personally, I'm cool with both options (DOT and DoT)... and if I'd prefer "DoT" instead of DOT would not be because of what wikipedia says, but because I'd like it more.. :lol

I've written so many times "DOT" that I realized it's actually a word in one of the song titles... coincidence?..  :justjen


Also, if we would religiously follow the band's intent, then we would always write ToT for Train of Thought (as it's typed on the cover) and that's not the case, have seen it several times written as TOT instead... not to mention WD&DU (written as When Dream and Day Unite on the cover), I&W (Images and Words), or 8V, which is obviously a different case anyway..
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Post by: RMGadelha on November 30, 2018, 01:49:08 PM
Pale Blue Distance over Time. D:
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Post by: gzarruk on November 30, 2018, 03:36:17 PM
Pale Blue Distance over Time. D:

Nuggetz
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Post by: |KirK| on December 04, 2018, 04:59:09 AM
JP on facebook: "James and I doing some UK press yesterday for D/T at @planetrockradio @dtimages @dreamtheaterworld"
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Post by: Pettor on December 04, 2018, 06:06:03 AM
D/T all the way! Love how you can actually say "Let's hope the new DT album D/T is better than DT" :)