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Title: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2018, 02:29:09 PM
Previous round results:

Streams 3 (17.6%)
Aquarium 4 (23.5%)
Drowning in the Flood 5 (29.4%)
Sun 5 (29.4%)



Tie-breaker round results:

Drowning in the Flood 7 (50%)
Sun 7 (50%)

Songs not mentioned here received zero votes.

The tie-breaker round ended in a tie, which means I'll have to resort to 'most votes in previous rounds'. This gives Drowning in the Flood 4 votes, against Sun's single vote in round 2. As such, Drowning in the Flood is eliminated.

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Aquarius Results:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. Drowning in the Flood
6. The Point of no Return
7. Eternal Rain

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Haken Survivor Main Thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53008.0)

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This leaves the 'traditional' top 2 (although DITF placed second in 2015), the usual #3 (occasionally #4) and Sun, which has never come this far before.

Let the voting commence.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Mladen on November 08, 2018, 02:50:59 PM
Streams, but I could have gone with Sun as well. The other two are easily my favorites.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 08, 2018, 03:06:52 PM
Sun....

I guess this opens up a new strategy. If it's early in a survivor and you know a song is going to be eliminated by a wide margin (Eternal Rain in this case) one could start voting for a song like Sun for future tiebreaker considerations
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Crow on November 08, 2018, 03:47:58 PM
Rivers of Nihil
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
Streams
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Zydar on November 09, 2018, 12:26:19 AM
Sorry, Sun  :-[
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2018, 01:11:43 AM
Lol what is Sun doing in the top 4 :lol
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2018, 03:32:33 AM
I guess this opens up a new strategy. If it's early in a survivor and you know a song is going to be eliminated by a wide margin (Eternal Rain in this case) one could start voting for a song like Sun for future tiebreaker considerations

If you want to waste your votes this way, go ahead. It's quite unsporting to do so though, if I'm allowed to say that.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Scorpion on November 09, 2018, 03:40:00 AM
Streams.

Though I'm happy that Sun made it to 4th already, and I would be fine with it leaving now as well.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 09, 2018, 03:51:52 AM
I guess this opens up a new strategy. If it's early in a survivor and you know a song is going to be eliminated by a wide margin (Eternal Rain in this case) one could start voting for a song like Sun for future tiebreaker considerations

If you want to waste your votes this way, go ahead. It's quite unsporting to do so though, if I'm allowed to say that.

You're allowed to say what you like.

I play survivors as they were originally intended...to try to have my favorite song (songs) survive for as long as they can. Hence the name of the game. Otherwise.... we're just voting our least favorite song over and over and over.

However in this case, had I voted for Sun instead of Eternal Rain in round 1, it still would have won the tiebreaker with Drowning in the Flood, and I suspect if 0-1 people are playing with strategy, it will have no affect on the final rankings.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2018, 04:22:38 AM
Well, I was just doing the math in my head and it doesn't really make much sense to start voting for songs early on in the unlikely event that a tie-breaker round would end in a tie yet again. In 5 years of Haken survivors, it hasn't happened before that I could not eliminate a song after a tie-breaker round. The only time something similar happened was in 2014 when the final round of the finals ended in a tie. I let both finalists 'win' then.
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: The Silent Cody on November 09, 2018, 06:38:54 AM
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Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 09, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
Well, I was just doing the math in my head and it doesn't really make much sense to start voting for songs early on in the unlikely event that a tie-breaker round would end in a tie yet again. In 5 years of Haken survivors, it hasn't happened before that I could not eliminate a song after a tie-breaker round. The only time something similar happened was in 2014 when the final round of the finals ended in a tie. I let both finalists 'win' then.

Was that the Rush survivor when 2112 and Xanadu were co-winners?
Title: Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - Aquarius: Round 4!
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
I've only ever run Haken survivors. It was the 2014 edition that had both Celestial Elixir and Visions as winners.