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Title: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: WildRanger on November 07, 2018, 12:57:02 PM
Who are they, IYO?

I think they are bands who got a big mainstream attention and that's a main reason why they're so famous with youngsters today as Slipknot, Disturbed, Avenged Sevenfold, Lamb of God and the likes. That's a bad thing. Unfortunately some talented, great metal bands are totally "out of the spotlight" and they suffer to be obscure metal names to a wider young public, whilst these commercial bands are pretty successful and popular.



Title: Re: Bands who are wearing "a metal flag" in the 21st century?
Post by: Grappler on November 07, 2018, 01:05:25 PM
Wearing or waving?  Does it have to be a national flag?  When I saw Rammstein, they held up a flag from the state of Illinois on stage.  I've seen over 60 concerts in Illinois and not once has a band ever held up the official state flag on stage as a thank you to fans, so that was unique. 

Or a flag with the band's own logo, which is infinitely more metal.

(https://www.metaltraveller.com/images/sabaton/flag_holland.JPG)

Speaking of Sabaton, they sell national flags with their logo on it, just like in the picture.  That's pretty metal. 
https://www.sabaton.net/product-category/flags/

They also rolled out a massive Swedish flag over the crowd themselves in their live Swedish Empire DVD. 
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JZEzFCn5tqs/hqdefault.jpg)

I think Sabaton is literally the most flag-waving metal band. 
Title: Re: Bands who are wearing "a metal flag" in the 21st century?
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2018, 01:10:43 PM
What about us??

(https://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/def_leppard_union_jack_9522.jpg)
Title: Re: Bands who are wearing "a metal flag" in the 21st century?
Post by: Grappler on November 07, 2018, 01:12:00 PM
What about us??

(https://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/def_leppard_union_jack_9522.jpg)

 :lol   I don't think any other band wears flags more proudly than those dudes.
Title: Re: Bands who are wearing "a metal flag" in the 21st century?
Post by: WildRanger on November 07, 2018, 01:12:14 PM
What about us??

(https://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/def_leppard_union_jack_9522.jpg)

In the 21st century? And are they metal?
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2018, 01:13:04 PM
Not sure they were metal in the 20th century! :lol
Title: Re: Bands who are wearing "a metal flag" in the 21st century?
Post by: Luoto on November 07, 2018, 01:17:55 PM
They also rolled out a massive Swedish flag over the crowd themselves in their live Swedish Empire DVD.

That's not a Swedish flag.
Title: Re: Bands who are wearing "a metal flag" in the 21st century?
Post by: WildRanger on November 07, 2018, 01:18:32 PM
Wearing or waving?  Does it have to be a national flag?  When I saw Rammstein, they held up a flag from the state of Illinois on stage.  I've seen over 60 concerts in Illinois and not once has a band ever held up the official state flag on stage as a thank you to fans, so that was unique. 

Or a flag with the band's own logo, which is infinitely more metal.

(https://www.metaltraveller.com/images/sabaton/flag_holland.JPG)

Speaking of Sabaton, they sell national flags with their logo on it, just like in the picture.  That's pretty metal. 
https://www.sabaton.net/product-category/flags/

They also rolled out a massive Swedish flag over the crowd themselves in their live Swedish Empire DVD. 
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JZEzFCn5tqs/hqdefault.jpg)

I think Sabaton is literally the most flag-waving metal band.

That was not a point of this thread. You took this thread literally.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: pg1067 on November 07, 2018, 01:43:03 PM
This is a pretty cool metal torch carrier:

(https://tnjn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4534219635_eede6ee01c_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Crow on November 07, 2018, 01:46:40 PM
Kanye West
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 07, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
Who are they, IYO?

I think they are bands who got a big mainstream attention and that's a main reason why they're so famous with youngsters today as Slipknot, Disturbed, Avenged Sevenfold, Lamb of God and the likes. That's a bad thing. Unfortunately some talented, great metal bands are totally "out of the spotlight" and they suffer to be obscure metal names to a wider young public, whilst these commercial bands are pretty successful and popular.

Why is that a bad thing?  Those bands are representing how metal music is in the 21st century and those are the bands that a lot of people can relate to, especially the youth. Like it or not.  It's how music evolves.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Crow on November 07, 2018, 02:00:10 PM
WildRanger is clearly either a teenage hipster who thinks they know everything or a 40+ something who wishes music was as good as it was back in the good ol days, that isn't surprising
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: romdrums on November 07, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
How about this one?

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3311/3506234899_405ba36f27_z.jpg?zz=1)
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: King Postwhore on November 07, 2018, 02:03:51 PM
Who are they, IYO?

I think they are bands who got a big mainstream attention and that's a main reason why they're so famous with youngsters today as Slipknot, Disturbed, Avenged Sevenfold, Lamb of God and the likes. That's a bad thing. Unfortunately some talented, great metal bands are totally "out of the spotlight" and they suffer to be obscure metal names to a wider young public, whilst these commercial bands are pretty successful and popular.

Why is that a bad thing?  Those bands are representing how metal music is in the 21st century and those are the bands that a lot of people can relate to, especially the youth. Like it or not.  It's how music evolves.

To get famous you need to big mainstream attention. :lol



That Led Zeppelin sucked when they became famous I tell ya.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Crow on November 07, 2018, 02:04:27 PM
Also the real answer is that rock and metal haven't been mainstream in at least a decade because what's mainstream in the 2010's has primarily been rap
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: King Postwhore on November 07, 2018, 02:06:00 PM
Also the real answer is that rock and metal haven't been mainstream in at least a decade because what's mainstream in the 2010's has primarily been rap

For sure.  Only a few bands like the Foo Fighters broke through.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Crow on November 07, 2018, 02:09:18 PM
That's more like, the early 00's  :lol

The only "rock" band with any mainstream success in the past 5 years or so has been Imagine Dragons and I call them """rock""" very loosely
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: King Postwhore on November 07, 2018, 02:12:20 PM
It is weird to see their albums sales decrease big time but the venue and tours are getting bigger.  Weird time for music.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Elite on November 07, 2018, 02:26:07 PM
This is a pretty cool metal torch carrier:

(https://tnjn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4534219635_eede6ee01c_o.jpg)


:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Stadler on November 07, 2018, 03:57:42 PM
That's more like, the early 00's  :lol

The only "rock" band with any mainstream success in the past 5 years or so has been Imagine Dragons and I call them """rock""" very loosely

Do you mean "break through" in the last five years?  Because the Foos have certainly had mainstream success in the last five years.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Stadler on November 07, 2018, 03:57:59 PM
How about this one?

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3311/3506234899_405ba36f27_z.jpg?zz=1)

This is all anyone needs to know. 
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 07, 2018, 04:07:16 PM
Also the real answer is that rock and metal haven't been mainstream in at least a decade because what's mainstream in the 2010's has primarily been rap

You mean Mumble Rap.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2018, 04:50:50 PM
Who are they, IYO?

I think they are bands who got a big mainstream attention and that's a main reason why they're so famous with youngsters today as Slipknot, Disturbed, Avenged Sevenfold, Lamb of God and the likes. That's a bad thing. Unfortunately some talented, great metal bands are totally "out of the spotlight" and they suffer to be obscure metal names to a wider young public, whilst these commercial bands are pretty successful and popular.

I think these bands being around a kind of a good thing as they are representing a heavier style of music that gets forgotten.  These bands being around isn't the reason 'out of the spotlight' bands don't get recognition.  All four of those bands also have good qualities too and are talented.
Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: KevShmev on November 07, 2018, 05:24:10 PM
PSY.
Title: Re: Bands who are wearing "a metal flag" in the 21st century?
Post by: Grappler on November 07, 2018, 07:28:34 PM
They also rolled out a massive Swedish flag over the crowd themselves in their live Swedish Empire DVD.

That's not a Swedish flag.

Yeah, I meant Polish. 

Title: Re: Bands who are carrying "a metal flag(or torch)" in the 21st century?
Post by: Ruba on November 07, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
It is weird to see their albums sales decrease big time but the venue and tours are getting bigger.  Weird time for music.

I think it's a natural progression of declining record sales and the popularity of streaming services. The artists have to earn their bacon somehow, so they'll play more gigs. You can find all your favourite band's albums and B-sides from YouTube, but there's no app that can really replicate the live experience.