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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: Progmetty on October 07, 2018, 09:57:14 PM
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Just watched season 9's premiere.
I've stuck with TWD through it's horrible 8th season, I've been a fan since the beginning and never had any serious complaints about the show, never even came close to stopping. But the news of Andrew Lincoln's departure had me feeling like season 9 might possibly be the last for me unless they pull off something amazing with the Whisperers and Angela Kang make a miraculous turn around in terms of writing and pacing.
I don't know if Rick is getting banished, leaving or dying to facilitate Andrew Lincoln's exit. I know some people know but I'm hoping not to find out until it happens. I hope he doesn't die and we can get guest spots here and there later. The odds are sadly against it since Michonne is not leaving the show and Rick wouldn't leave without her.. we'll see.
I'm willing to bet money season 10 is going to be the last one, exactly how much money; I'll say after the mid-season finale heh
So the premiere, good episode overall. I already can't see how this show will work without Rick, there's a lot of strong characters but none I'm half as invested in as Rick. I liked seeing what's going on at the sanctuary, I like the prospect of what I'm gonna call neo-saviors, missing the old regime and possibly fighting for it. I would love to see Arat and the two other Negan lieutenants make a failed attempt to break him out at one point.
I don't understand why they had to take the farming equipment out of the museum.. why is farming equipment rare in the apocalypse?! They could have gotten better quality versions of the same stuff from any Amish farm.
I also don't get why they wouldn't just take the sanctuary residents into Alexandria and the Kingdom, since helping them surviving on their own at the sanctuary seems to be a major pain in everybody's ass.
I like that leader of the garbage people playing normal now, like she was never bat shit insane.
I'm still not buying into the Rick/Michonne romance at all. Carol and the King worked right away for me.
Looking forward to seeing Negan next week, I hope we get long dialogue between him and Rick.
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I haven't watched the show since Carl died. Not that I liked his character, I just kind of lost interest. I'll pick it up again at some point.
In other news: RIP Scott Wilson
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I thought it was a great episode. They've injected some horror and intensity back into the show - a few scares with walkers, the "will they/won't they" make it across the glass floor and pushing the wagon out of the muck, plus the disagreements between the three leaders (Rick, Maggie, Daryl), and ending it on the stuff with Gregory.
I'm excited to see if they can keep it up through the first half of the season - for the first time in a few years, I actually have some anticipation for next week and wanting to see what happens next.
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Watched the premiere episode out of curiosity. I stopped watching after the S8 mid season finale since killing Carl is the dumbest shit this show has ever done. I'll probably watch until Rick dies/leaves/whatever but this is show is no longer a priority for me.
It was alright. The dialogue finally sounds human. I would say I'm excited for the upcoming plotlines, but without Rick, Carl, and Maggie, who gives a shit. I wouldn't be surprised is Danai Gurira leaves soon, now that she's part of the MCU.
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This feels like 90's to mid-00's TV when seasons were 22 episodes long, when you're watching a scene that you know is only there because there's 16 fuckin episodes in the season and time needs to be filled with something. TWD has felt like that more often than not since season 7. It's not about whether the scene should be there or not, but more about how slow some of these scenes are. What did we learn on this episode that we didn't know from the premiere? 3 minutes worth of story progress overall IMO.
The presence of the 3 high ranking female Saviors is still very odd, their apparent co-existence with the other communities is weird and uncharacteristic. One of them was Negan's bodyguard, the other one was of his 5 top officers and the third a reliable henchman. I hope it turns out they're only acting nice cause it doesn't make sense.
Tara is as unbearable to watch as ever.
The old couple who lost their son at the hill top are so perfectly casted, the actors are doing such an awesome job for such small roles.
Rick shooting the rope and unleashing the logs on the walker herd was one of the coolest sequences I've seen on the show in a while, I loved it.
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The old couple who lost their son at the hill top are so perfectly casted, the actors are doing such an awesome job for such small roles.
The mother is stand up comedian Brett Butler, who was a fairly major star in the 90s, had her own TV series, "Grace Under Fire" for 5 or 6 seasons until she fell into drug and alcohol issues and the show was cancelled.
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Oh damn I vaguely remember that show, I didn't recognize her at all.
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So, we're several episodes into the season and it's holding my interest a lot more than last year. There is more tension and I find myself wanting to know what happens next and caring for these characters again. Season 8 rarely made me feel like that.
I'm excited and sad for Rick's last episode. Can't wait to see what happens, but sad that 8 years of watching him kick ass on the show has come to an end. I really wish his leaving the show wasn't leaked - it would have been so explosive as a surprise to viewers. It will be interesting to see not only how the story and characters move on from it, but also to see how the ratings do too.
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So, we're several episodes into the season and it's holding my interest a lot more than last year. There is more tension and I find myself wanting to know what happens next and caring for these characters again. Season 8 rarely made me feel like that.
I'm excited and sad for Rick's last episode. Can't wait to see what happens, but sad that 8 years of watching him kick ass on the show has come to an end. I really wish his leaving the show wasn't leaked - it would have been so explosive as a surprise to viewers. It will be interesting to see not only how the story and characters move on from it, but also to see how the ratings do too.
I think it was done intentionally in an effort to retain viewers who were going to bail on this season, and maybe bring back some who bailed during the the last half of 7 and 8.
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Wait holy crap is this on S9 now? I stopped watching a few years ago because it got so stale but s9 still sounds really high to me.
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So, we're several episodes into the season and it's holding my interest a lot more than last year. There is more tension and I find myself wanting to know what happens next and caring for these characters again. Season 8 rarely made me feel like that.
I'm excited and sad for Rick's last episode. Can't wait to see what happens, but sad that 8 years of watching him kick ass on the show has come to an end. I really wish his leaving the show wasn't leaked - it would have been so explosive as a surprise to viewers. It will be interesting to see not only how the story and characters move on from it, but also to see how the ratings do too.
I think it was done intentionally in an effort to retain viewers who were going to bail on this season, and maybe bring back some who bailed during the the last half of 7 and 8.
I have not brushed up on the internet about the "Rick last eps." subject nor am I familiar with the comic, however, I just believe that they new there was no way possible to keep it a secret so they just came out with it. I am really enjoying this season so far.
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I think it was done intentionally in an effort to retain viewers who were going to bail on this season, and maybe bring back some who bailed during the the last half of 7 and 8.
Which isn't/wasn't a bad idea. This season thus far has been pretty good....at least when compared to the last couple seasons. Angela Kang has done a good job as show runner thus far.
Prime example was when Maggie hung Gregory. Kang was on 'the talking dead' and all but admitted that TWD has a history of dragging things out. she said something to the effect of that story/relationship between Maggie and Gregory had been escalating for a while and she felt that there was no need to continue it for the sake of continuing it.....and decided 'why not' end that storyline right off the bat.
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Tonight's episode wasn't the dumbest TWD episode ever, but it was an easy top 5!
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I actually dug how they ‘concluded’ Rick Grimes story on the Walking Dead Show.....really dug the time jump as it seems they’ve replaced the Carl/Negan relationship with Negan/Judith and am really curious about the feature length AMC special movies they are producing to continue Ricks story and explore the broader world.
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The first 60 minutes were amazing, especially that scene with Rick and Shane in the car. After the explosion, I was completely satisfied - I wanted him to die and not leave something open ended. Then the helicopter scene made me think the ending was lame, but once Gimple announced the movies right afterward on Talking Dead, I thought that was so cool. He's never really been allowed to talk about what he's doing in overseeing the television shows, and this explains a lot.
The characters on the main show believe he's dead. But the character won't be ending for the fans, and we'll still get to see him kick ass, but on his terms (i.e. shooting a 60 day movie schedule vs. 6 months in the US).
I haven't read the Whisperer arc for 2-3 years, and left off at the end of Compendium 3, which was pretty much the pike scene.
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I thought it was a very smart and creative way for Kang to ‘fix’ the problem that Gimple created by firing Chandler Riggs for turning 18. Use the time jump so that Judith can essentially become comic book Carl in the post Negan/New Hope era.
I’m intrigued by the AMC feature length movies concerning TWD universe, as it sounds like there may be several on the horizon that explore different times, places and people.
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Wtf, so the show has actually jumped forward 6 years? Isn't that longer than the story-time that's passed in the entire 8.5 seasons so far?
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I thought it was a very smart and creative way for Kang to ‘fix’ the problem that Gimple created by firing Chandler Riggs for turning 18. Use the time jump so that Judith can essentially become comic book Carl in the post Negan/New Hope era.
I’m intrigued by the AMC feature length movies concerning TWD universe, as it sounds like there may be several on the horizon that explore different times, places and people.
I'll second that! This season has brought me back to high interest in the show (something I really haven't had since they came to Alexandria); I was actually glad to see that Rick will be back in another arc of features... perhaps when it "all ends" all of the features and the other shows that are here and coming will dovetail together and everyone will see that Rick is still alive.
As for Rick and Shane in that car... I actually fist pumped the air and let out a yell! That was the old school WD writing, loved Shane and always told my wife that Rick basically spit his personality to Rick/Shane and called upon the Shane side when he needed it. Nice to see the show confirm it.
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As of this season, I think they were about 4 years into the apocalypse. So jumping six years ahead ages Judith to be about 10 years old, which was about the same age as Carl when the series started.
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As of this season, I think they were about 4 years into the apocalypse.
I'm not sure that's accurate. I mean, at the beginning of this season it was an 18 month jump. It may have been around (4) years prior to that....so maybe it was 6.5-7 years when Rick disappeared.....now it's 6 years after that.
I believe In the comic the 'jump' that happened after the 'All Out War' arc was longer than the 1.5 years they did on the show. It's been quite some time since I read that part but I believe that jump was what they are doing now...5-6 years. Because Rick was significantly older....which is where 'old man Rick' came from.....all communities had had major advancement and construction...etc etc.
It looks like what Kang has done has used that as a jumping off point....and despite having not seen an episode in this 'new' timeline, I'd imagine the show is going to be recharged. Like Andrew Lincoln mentioned in his interview on TTD last night.....Rich Grimes being gone from that story opens up so much more opportunity and freedom to explore other characters and ideas. Besides, with Judith around and the way she confidently states she's "Judith Grimes"....I think they'll still make sure to keep Ricks memory and influence in the forefront of a couple characters.
I'm in agreement with vtgrad when he says my interest in the show is at it's highest level it's been at in a few years. I'm trying not to get too excited as I'm fully aware of how bad AMC can jack the story up.....but up to this point in this Season I've been very happy with what Kang and Co. have done to try and steer the show back on course.
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https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_TV_Show_Timeline
The Walking Dead Wiki has Season 8 ending at 1.5 years into the apocalypse. Season 9 begins (with the 18 month time jump) at 1,170 days (Just over 3 years). I had read a summary earlier this morning that alluded to 4 years, so that isn't too far off.
The Judith Grimes flash forward/time jump then puts the show at just over 9 years into the apocalypse.
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Can someone give a quick recap of how they took care of Rick? Also, is there still gasoline 9 years in the future?
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Can someone give a quick recap of how they took care of Rick? Also, is there still gasoline 9 years in the future?
Rick was gravely injured while leading a herd of zombies away from a camp. He hallucinated conversations with Shane, Hershel and Sasha which helped propel him forward and in and out of consciousness, leading the herd to a bridge that all survivors were trying to complete. Rather than collapse under the weight of the herd, the bridge held, so Rick fired his gun at a pile of dynamite, blowing up the bridge and causing the zombies to fall into a rapidly rushing river. Rick is presumed dead by everyone that saw him blown up in the explosion....but he was actually thrown farther down the riverbank.
Rick was rescued by Jadis/Anne of the junkyard survivors, who is and was part of a human trafficking ring. She convinced a helicopter to pick them up and fly them...somewhere.
There is very little gasoline available to them. Survivors are traveling by foot or on horseback.
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Can someone give a quick recap of how they took care of Rick? Also, is there still gasoline 9 years in the future?
Rick was gravely injured while leading a herd of zombies away from a camp. He hallucinated conversations with Shane, Hershel and Sasha which helped propel him forward and in and out of consciousness, leading the herd to a bridge that all survivors were trying to complete. Rather than collapse under the weight of the herd, the bridge held, so Rick fired his gun at a pile of dynamite, blowing up the bridge and causing the zombies to fall into a rapidly rushing river. Rick is presumed dead by everyone that saw him blown up in the explosion....but he was actually thrown farther down the riverbank.
Rick was rescued by Jadis/Anne of the junkyard survivors, who is and was part of a human trafficking ring. She convinced a helicopter to pick them up and fly them...somewhere.
There is very little gasoline available to them. Survivors are traveling by foot or on horseback.
Good recap. I'll just add that I thought it was done really well. Could have been cheesy considering it was hallucinations but I thought it came across great and was effective. Each flashback sequence and the characters involved was pretty cool and on point. I loved that Shane sequence. I liked the symbolism as well as it was Rick on a horse....the rebar had pierced the exact same side/location on his torso that the gun shot did....there were a lot of call backs to the first season in that imagery. Very well done.
Also, Scott Gimple was on The Talking Dead and revealed to the audience and fans for the first time that they are going to continue Rick's story with a series of AMC Exclusive feature length films....aired on AMC. They'll delve into places/people etc etc that are outside of the scope of the show as we know it. He even said they have plans to explore other countries and even past characters in these feature films....either past, present or future.
It sounds pretty cool actually if done well. that's the thing...it's a big IF
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The Walking Dead Wiki has Season 8 ending at 1.5 years into the apocalypse.
This just doesn't seem like that's right. I can't access the wiki due to work firewall to take a peek at how they broke it out....but they lived at the Prison for a year. Prior to finding Herchel's farm they had survived a whole winter outside on their own. That was after leaving the CDC. That's (2) years right there. Either way....it was 3-5 years prior to the 6 year jump.
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Kind of disappointing Shane didn't say "M'ask you sumthin Rick."
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Kind of disappointing Shane didn't say "M'ask you sumthin Rick."
While rubbing his head.
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Also, Scott Gimple was on The Talking Dead and revealed to the audience and fans for the first time that they are going to continue Rick's story with a series of AMC Exclusive feature length films....aired on AMC. They'll delve into places/people etc etc that are outside of the scope of the show as we know it. He even said they have plans to explore other countries and even past characters in these feature films....either past, present or future.
It sounds pretty cool actually if done well. that's the thing...it's a big IF
Well because it's Gimple, I guarantee it won't be done well.
I have no problem with Rick's exit, and it was nice seeing Shane and Hershel(RIP) again. I don't understand why they chose Sasha of all people to come back though.
One thing that a lot of people didn't realize was that this is also Maggie's last episode.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/11/walking-dead-maggie-lauren-cohan-last-episode-905
I'm sure they'll address it next week, but it seems weird that that's how they chose to end her character. I guess she died sometime in the ~6 year timeskip? I can't imagine she'd just up and leave now that she has a kid.
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Well because it's Gimple, so I guarantee it won't be done well.
I have no problem with Rick's exit, and it was nice seeing Shane and Hershel(RIP) again. I don't understand why they chose Sasha of all people to come back though.
One thing that a lot of people didn't realize was that this is also Maggie's last episode.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/11/walking-dead-maggie-lauren-cohan-last-episode-905
I'm sure they'll address it next week, but it seems weird that that's how they chose to end her character. I guess she died sometime in the ~6 year timeskip? I can't imagine she'd just up and leave now that she has a kid.
I guess Maggie's story is being left open-ended, depending on how Whisky Cavalier does.
As for Sasha, a lot of it had to do with availability - they asked Steven Yeun to come back, but he wasn't available. Sasha worked well because she sacrificed herself for the group, which is also what Rick was intending to do...he was searching for "his family" and at the end after seeing the group come to his rescue, he stated that he found them.
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I don't understand why they chose Sasha of all people to come back though.
Yeah....I was wondering about that as well. I had thought that maybe it'd be Lori....shoot, even Andrea? But Sasha....maybe she was the only former female actor that had a free spot in her schedule :lol Didn't know they asked Steven Yeun....that'd have been cool
One thing that a lot of people didn't realize was that this is also Maggie's last episode.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/11/walking-dead-maggie-lauren-cohan-last-episode-905
I'm sure they'll address it next week, but it seems weird that that's how they chose to end her character. I guess she died sometime in the ~6 year timeskip? I can't imagine she'd just up and leave now that she has a kid.
That is odd that they didn't really 'do much' in the way of making it known it was her last episode. I've read a few articles where Lauren Cohen basically has said that there's a 'chance' she'd return.....but nothing has been discussed. I'm sure they'll find a way to explain it.....maybe mention that she has went off to live elsewhere....something along those lines.
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Well because it's Gimple, I guarantee it won't be done well.
The only hope is that he's just an overall architect and not at ground level. Cool concept(s)....but it's clear by the job that Kang has been doing this season that some 'fresh' perspective was needed when it came to the show.
I thought Gimple did a great job in guiding the series back on track when he came aboard initially on the heels of Mazerra leading the show astray....and Gimple has written some of the better episodes of the series. But as some point he lost that clear vision and the show has been suffering for it. This season has been a bit of fresh air so to speak. It's not early season knock you off your socks level.....but it's certainly at a higher level than the past few seasons.
I think this time jump and host of new characters will give the show a jolt.....and the Whisperer storyline is a cool one. And....I can't wait to see how JDM and 'Negan' handle this next phase of that character. I think he's gonna kill it.
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I see you guys like this episode, I really don't and check my record on all previous TWD threads, I easily win the "Least bitching about TWD" award but I'm so frustrated with the bad handling of everything since season 8. Now here there are a couple of things that I would change about this episode so I wouldn't find it pretty fuckin awful and I do find it pretty fuckin awful, things that pertain to logic, as usual with TWD:
1 - Rick Grimes, who we know very fuckin well, is dying. He hallucinates about important figures from his life, his friend who he's killed and a father figure and an important moral compass for him, okay I'm sold on that. But Sasha? When did we ever see Rick develop any kind of emotional connection with Sasha? Rick's dealing with Sasha consisted of either yelling at her or planning murders! You skipped on having a Glenn hallucination? I mean I understand you can't get Carl cause the actor is on bad terms with AMC but Sasha?! Not Lori, not Glenn, not forgot-his-name RV guy!
2 - It looks like it's just me but I found what happened at the bridge to be confusing as fuck. It looked like Rick had crossed the bridge to the other side so I didn't understand why he was in danger when the music started tensing up before he shot the dynamite, I still need to re-watch that scene cause I was pretty positive he made it across.
3 - Last episode Daryl suggested to Rick that he leads the walkers to the bridge and blow it up and Rick said no, so up to the end I thought Rick was gonna let them cross the bridge and find a way to deal with them further down but it's now clear that once they got to the bridge; it was no longer an option! That wasn't clear to me at all and played into the confusion of the previous point.
4- Rick's survival, that was plain fuckin dumb, that's just AMC realizing they need to milk Rick some more. Rick has taken a life threatening beating or two but nothing as bad as this, bleeding for a long time then falling off a collapsing bridge into the river and getting swept away! At this point I don't think Rick would die if he got shot in the head. But it's not just that; the moment of explosion was amazing because of Lincoln's acting and Daryl/Michonne's reactions, it would have been the perfect closure, such a waste.
5 - I'm not buying what they've been doing with Negan, I was truly surprised when he didn't try pushing Maggie over when she opened his door but then I realized his breakdown was genuine! wtf! They haven't shown us when or how his character had changed that much!
If whatever they're doing for the next 3 episodes doesn't turn out to be mind-blowingly amazing and creative, and it won't, this will probably be the last season or the season before last IMO.
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I see you guys like this episode, I really don't and check my record on all previous TWD threads, I easily win the "Least bitching about TWD" award but I'm so frustrated with the bad handling of everything since season 8. Now here there are a couple of things that I would change about this episode so I wouldn't find it pretty fuckin awful and I do find it pretty fuckin awful, things that pertain to logic, as usual with TWD:
1 - Rick Grimes, who we know very fuckin well, is dying. He hallucinates about important figures from his life, his friend who he's killed and a father figure and an important moral compass for him, okay I'm sold on that. But Sasha? When did we ever see Rick develop any kind of emotional connection with Sasha? Rick's dealing with Sasha consisted of either yelling at her or planning murders! You skipped on having a Glenn hallucination? I mean I understand you can't get Carl cause the actor is on bad terms with AMC but Sasha?! Not Lori, not Glenn, not forgot-his-name RV guy!
I think a lot of this had to do with scheduling. They contacted Steven Yeun, but he couldn't do it. Angela Kang (showrunner) wouldn't divulge who else was on the list, but someone else did mention Steven. They were lucky to get Jon Bernthal to come back as Shane...he barely squeezed it in. Ultimately, the message was that Rick started out looking for his family (Lori and Carl) but when the group came to rescue him, he realized that they were all his family and he was at peace. So while having Lori or Glenn come back for a cameo would have been amazing, the character of Rick saw someone like Sasha as his family as well.
2 - It looks like it's just me but I found what happened at the bridge to be confusing as fuck. It looked like Rick had crossed the bridge to the other side so I didn't understand why he was in danger when the music started tensing up before he shot the dynamite, I still need to re-watch that scene cause I was pretty positive he made it across.
It was a little confusing. In the prior episode, Daryl told him to lead the walkers to the bridge. He refused. But given his condition, I think he realized that it was his only option. So he went out to the bridge, but it held, rather than crumble under the weight. Rick said like "[oh crap,] it held."
3 - Last episode Daryl suggested to Rick that he leads the walkers to the bridge and blow it up and Rick said no, so up to the end I thought Rick was gonna let them cross the bridge and find a way to deal with them further down but it's now clear that once they got to the bridge; it was no longer an option! That wasn't clear to me at all and played into the confusion of the previous point.
See above - it was his intent, but they built it strongly enough for it to hold, rather than crumble.
4- Rick's survival, that was plain fuckin dumb, that's just AMC realizing they need to milk Rick some more. Rick has taken a life threatening beating or two but nothing as bad as this, bleeding for a long time then falling off a collapsing bridge into the river and getting swept away! At this point I don't think Rick would die if he got shot in the head. But it's not just that; the moment of explosion was amazing because of Lincoln's acting and Daryl/Michonne's reactions, it would have been the perfect closure, such a waste.
I wanted him to be killed off and felt cheated when he was on the helicopter. But when Gimple announced the movies, it all made sense. It's a total win-win. The characters believe Rick is dead, which is the same as killing him off. The show has always been about watching these characters deal with the loss of others, and we should get to see some of that. We won't get the immediate closure, but you can be sure that he will live on the same way other characters have in this show, especially with Judith being a main character.
Fans get to continue to watch Rick in a Walking Dead universe movie series. He doesn't have to spend 6 months away from his family and can still give us the character that we love.
5 - I'm not buying what they've been doing with Negan, I was truly surprised when he didn't try pushing Maggie over when she opened his door but then I realized his breakdown was genuine! wtf! They haven't shown us when or how his character had changed that much!
I'm not that far into the comics, but I believe this is part of Negan's comic storyline. They accelerated Maggie's confrontation with him due to Lauren Cohan leaving and having limited time. There has also been 18 months in between last season and this season, so a lot happened in between that we just haven't seen.
If whatever they're doing for the next 3 episodes doesn't turn out to be mind-blowingly amazing and creative, and it won't, this will probably be the last season or the season before last IMO.
I'm expecting this show to end with Season 10, but given Gimple's announcement of an expanded universe, I don't think AMC has any intentions of saying goodbye to the franchise yet.
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I see you guys like this episode, I really don't and check my record on all previous TWD threads, I easily win the "Least bitching about TWD" award but I'm so frustrated with the bad handling of everything since season 8. Now here there are a couple of things that I would change about this episode so I wouldn't find it pretty fuckin awful and I do find it pretty fuckin awful, things that pertain to logic, as usual with TWD:
1 - Rick Grimes, who we know very fuckin well, is dying. He hallucinates about important figures from his life, his friend who he's killed and a father figure and an important moral compass for him, okay I'm sold on that. But Sasha? When did we ever see Rick develop any kind of emotional connection with Sasha? Rick's dealing with Sasha consisted of either yelling at her or planning murders! You skipped on having a Glenn hallucination? I mean I understand you can't get Carl cause the actor is on bad terms with AMC but Sasha?! Not Lori, not Glenn, not forgot-his-name RV guy!
I think a lot of this had to do with scheduling. They contacted Steven Yeun, but he couldn't do it. Angela Kang (showrunner) wouldn't divulge who else was on the list, but someone else did mention Steven. They were lucky to get Jon Bernthal to come back as Shane...he barely squeezed it in. Ultimately, the message was that Rick started out looking for his family (Lori and Carl) but when the group came to rescue him, he realized that they were all his family and he was at peace. So while having Lori or Glenn come back for a cameo would have been amazing, the character of Rick saw someone like Sasha as his family as well.
I was confused to say the least to see Sasha in his hallucinations....given that it appeared that really important people were 'showing up' in them. I pretty much figured that she was the only actor they could get on set to film in the time they had. They made the best of it...and that was that.
2 - It looks like it's just me but I found what happened at the bridge to be confusing as fuck. It looked like Rick had crossed the bridge to the other side so I didn't understand why he was in danger when the music started tensing up before he shot the dynamite, I still need to re-watch that scene cause I was pretty positive he made it across.
It was a little confusing. In the prior episode, Daryl told him to lead the walkers to the bridge. He refused. But given his condition, I think he realized that it was his only option. So he went out to the bridge, but it held, rather than crumble under the weight. Rick said like "[oh crap,] it held."
I wasn't confused by it at all. They've made such a point to show just how much this bridge meant to Rick (because of Carl) that it added to the level of sacrifice Rick was willing to offer when he knew the only way to protect the communities from this MASSIVE herd of walkers was to get them to the bridge for it to collapse and for them to wash down the river.....thus, communities saved. I didn't think there was any confusion on that aspect?
4- Rick's survival, that was plain fuckin dumb, that's just AMC realizing they need to milk Rick some more. Rick has taken a life threatening beating or two but nothing as bad as this, bleeding for a long time then falling off a collapsing bridge into the river and getting swept away! At this point I don't think Rick would die if he got shot in the head. But it's not just that; the moment of explosion was amazing because of Lincoln's acting and Daryl/Michonne's reactions, it would have been the perfect closure, such a waste.
I wanted him to be killed off and felt cheated when he was on the helicopter. But when Gimple announced the movies, it all made sense. It's a total win-win. The characters believe Rick is dead, which is the same as killing him off. The show has always been about watching these characters deal with the loss of others, and we should get to see some of that. We won't get the immediate closure, but you can be sure that he will live on the same way other characters have in this show, especially with Judith being a main character.
Fans get to continue to watch Rick in a Walking Dead universe movie series. He doesn't have to spend 6 months away from his family and can still give us the character that we love.
I've maintained to my brother and buddies who watch the show since the beginning that they were never going to kill off Rick. If you read/listen to all the comments from the AMC honchos from get go.....they never say 'killed'. It was always, last episode on TWD....or great send off for character....etc. etc. It always felt like they were setting it up for a future Rick Grimes re-entrance. And I'm fine with it.
The funny thing is that years ago prior to Fear the Walking Dead, I told my brother the way to spin the show off would have been to revolve it around Daryl.....and one way to do that would be for him to be swept away in a river.....have him 'come to' on the shores somewhere far down stream.
I'm looking forward to the AMC feature films....I think it has potential to be good.
5 - I'm not buying what they've been doing with Negan, I was truly surprised when he didn't try pushing Maggie over when she opened his door but then I realized his breakdown was genuine! wtf! They haven't shown us when or how his character had changed that much!
I'm not that far into the comics, but I believe this is part of Negan's comic storyline. They accelerated Maggie's confrontation with him due to Lauren Cohan leaving and having limited time. There has also been 18 months in between last season and this season, so a lot happened in between that we just haven't seen.
Yeah, that scene with Maggie only recently happened in the comics....in a completely different setting. It was powerful in the comic and I think it came off powerful here as well. I'm not a fan of how the show handled portraying Negan compared to the source material.....but judging from the glimpse into the remainder of the season I think JDM has a chance to do some real good acting and kind of re-cast Negan in a way. I'm curious to see how it goes.
If whatever they're doing for the next 3 episodes doesn't turn out to be mind-blowingly amazing and creative, and it won't, this will probably be the last season or the season before last IMO.
I'm expecting this show to end with Season 10, but given Gimple's announcement of an expanded universe, I don't think AMC has any intentions of saying goodbye to the franchise yet.
Yeah....I'm opposite of you Grappler. I'm not saying this season has been outright out of the park....but in the face of what it 'has' been recently.....it's trending in the right direction. It's had way more substance and is much more compelling than it has been of late. As I've mentioned, I think Kang has done a good job of cleaning up Gimple's mess and getting the ship back on course. The time jump is going to help that even more.....and, the screen time that is left in the wake of Rick 'dying' gives them much more freedom to develop other characters.
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I appreciate y'all's thoughts here but for the most part it's based on real life logistics, like not getting Glenn cause the actor is busy, it's like back when Tara weighed 300 tons and people were saying it's okay cause the actress was pregnant. Knowing the real life circumstances doesn't help the suspension of belief at all for me. Any remote Sasha presence in Rick's thoughts is distractingly out of place IMO, but I won't dwell on it further.
Kind of disappointing Shane didn't say "M'ask you sumthin Rick."
This made me laugh way too much hehe
What part of America does Shane's accent come from?
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Yeah....I'm opposite of you Grappler. I'm not saying this season has been outright out of the park....but in the face of what it 'has' been recently.....it's trending in the right direction. It's had way more substance and is much more compelling than it has been of late. As I've mentioned, I think Kang has done a good job of cleaning up Gimple's mess and getting the ship back on course. The time jump is going to help that even more.....and, the screen time that is left in the wake of Rick 'dying' gives them much more freedom to develop other characters.
I didn't think the bridge thing was confusing, but I do think others could see it that way - "wait, he didn't want to risk the bridge, but now he does?"
I agree about this season. It is feeling very fresh again after a few seasons of treading water. Prior to this year, my expectation was that they'd do 10 seaons and they're done. But now I don't think that will happen at all - AMC has big plans, but will they continue to hold if the ratings still continue to drop? They were killing it with 12-13 million viewers a week during season 6, then it has slowly faded to half that over the last two seasons. Still ggod numbers, but not as massive as they had been.
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I didn't think the bridge thing was confusing, but I do think others could see it that way - "wait, he didn't want to risk the bridge, but now he does?"
I'm going to re-watch that bridge scene again tonight....but if I recall I think it was Daryl who said to the group as they arrived something along the lines of "he's hurt bad.....he's trying to save the city..." or something like that. It was a pretty fast line and agreeably would have been hard for the others to understand what the F he was doing.
That being said....I think by the 6 year time jump it'll be 'legend' by that point that "Rick Grimes" saved them all from a massive hoard.
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When they all arrived at the bridge Daryl said “That here would have rolled right through Hilltop......he’s trying to take out the bridge”, then a woman screamed “He’s hurt!”
So they knew he was hurt and trying to save them all.....he died a hero to them all.
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Thought it was another solid episode. I have to say I’ve been satisfied with this season thus far.
Curious about the ‘X’ scar on Michonnes back and if it’s a coincidence that it’s the same spot Ricks injury was? How would she have known that or seen that from her vantage point?
I like the Negan/Judith exchange as it’s clear their using her character in lieu of Carl now.
I’ve always liked the actress they cast as Magna.....especially her character Luna for ‘The 100’
Carol! Still got it!
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Thought it was another solid episode. I have to say I’ve been satisfied with this season thus far.
Curious about the ‘X’ scar on Michonnes back and if it’s a coincidence that it’s the same spot Ricks injury was? How would she have known that or seen that from her vantage point?
I like the Negan/Judith exchange as it’s clear their using her character in lieu of Carl now.
I’ve always liked the actress they cast as Magna.....especially her character Luna for ‘The 100’
Carol! Still got it!
Carl's plot is being split up a little - Carol was taking Henry (her/King's kid) to Hilltop to be an apprentice blacksmith, like when Carl went to live at the Hilltop during this time period.
I thought it was great. Plenty of mystery of the last six years to unravel. Michonne's scar apparently has to do with someone that they let in to Alexandria at one point. Carol taking care of the asshole Saviors was awesome. Rich and Michonne have a kid (RJ!) and of course the Whisperers.
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With Lauren Cohen’s very quiet exit from the show being the Rick vanishing episode as well....I’m assuming when Michonne was speaking about the Hilltop and seeing if the new group could stay there and said “let’s see what she has to say”......the ‘she’ is going to be Tara. Didn’t see her at Alexandria and that’s the only other logical ‘core’ character that it could be.
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They got rid of Rick and Maggie in the same episode? I heard everyone talking about Rick no longer being on the show, but this is the first I'm hearing of Maggie being gone as well.
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They got rid of Rick and Maggie in the same episode? I heard everyone talking about Rick no longer being on the show, but this is the first I'm hearing of Maggie being gone as well.
Yep. But the thing is....there was no ‘goodbye’. In the time jump she’s just gonna be gone. Lauren Cohen and AMC couldn’t come to a contract agreement so she shot a new pilot called ‘Whiskey Cavalir’ That’s gonna air soon. The door is open for M’Aggie to return supposedly.....but her character is gone for the foreseeable future. Just a quiet exit. Kind of strange.
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Damn, that kind of sucks. With the time jump, did they just add a bunch of new characters to the mix?
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There's 5 new characters, they seem interesting but the actors are meh.
The chest tattoo girl has the same facial qualities that annoys me about Tara's face, can't put my hand on what it is exaactly heh
They have a real deaf person playing a deaf character, that's pretty cool.
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There's 5 new characters, they seem interesting but the actors are meh.
I disagree. I liked them. Especially Magna and the Music Teacher. I've always found those two actors redeemable.
The chest tattoo girl has the same facial qualities that annoys me about Tara's face, can't put my hand on what it is exaactly heh
Really? I think she's pretty attractive actually.....that 'look' she has does the opposite to me than you.
They have a real deaf person playing a deaf character, that's pretty cool.
It is. Although....it doesn't make for a good guest on 'the talking dead' she was on there last night and that was brutal to try and get through. Fast Forwarded near all the episode.
Damn, that kind of sucks. With the time jump, did they just add a bunch of new characters to the mix?
they did but in the comic this group of characters is pretty neat. Just a group of 5-6 people who have been together for a while like the Rick and Co. gang. I thought their introduction to the show was handled nicely.
And I thought the time jump was a good idea as well rather than deal with 'the day after' Rick dying and dragging that out they've thrown some distance between that initial phase and now there is a bit of mystery with Michonne's scar.....Maggie not being there (although that's yet to be seen on screen....but known via the internet) the way Alexandria handles outsiders etc etc. I think Kang is doing a good job at resetting this whole series and I have a bit of hope that she'll handle the Whisperer arc better than Gimple did the 'All out War' arc.
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I was one of the biggest TWD fans for the first 7.1 seasons. Then, season 7 just dragged on because they wanted to milk N egan and stick to the comic arc (which was dumb). There is NO WAY that Rick or Carl for that matter wouldn't have murdered N egan! Then, Gimple completely f*%#ed up by killing Carl! So many viewers bolted after that stupid decision. I've stayed ONLY because I'm a completely and have to finish it out. Once I heard Rick was leaving, the killing off of Carl was made 10 times dumber! Anyway the whispered story is upon us and hopefully it will be good, because that,s it for the show because the comics SUCK after that story.
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I've been pleasantly surprised with this season thus far. It's been infinitely better than the previous two. Although, the last episode 'felt' like a typical Gimple episode where they spent the whole hour telling a story that could have been told in twenty minutes.
That's the issue with a (16) episode season though when it comes to AMC and this show. They just milk it for all its worth.....and at this point the writers seem to craft the season around having those 3 or 4 'filler' episodes......which is what I consider the last episode as being. Still some meat on the bone for the story but it was drug out a bit.
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I agree that the last episode felt like filler, IMO the rest of the season has been really good and last episode felt slow, although there were some meat on it.
I'm really looking forward to next episode and the whisperers.
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What I've noticed in the brief few shots of the hoards of walkers that the whisperers have been hiding in....is they (producers) have done a good job at showing the difference in the walking patterns. There were a couple instances where if you were looking (and I was specifically) that you could see the difference. That's pretty neat.
I like the new characters and the 'mystery' of the scars on Michonne and Daryl. I just hope they don't drag letting us in on that secret too long....that'll get annoying. I don't need a whole episode to explain it.....maybe a conversation between Michonne and Magna or something like that where she explains what happened...that's good enough for me.
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Thought this mid season finale was another solid episode. I like the couple deviations they've made from the Comic.....it really brings in to question of 'who' the 'big' deaths are going to be now concerning this war with the Whisperer's. They were shocking when it happened in the comic but now it really could be any of them being that they're mixing some things up.
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Thought this mid season finale was another solid episode. I like the couple deviations they've made from the Comic.....it really brings in to question of 'who' the 'big' deaths are going to be now concerning this war with the Whisperer's. They were shocking when it happened in the comic but now it really could be any of them being that they're mixing some things up.
I loved the introduction of the Whisperers. This is definitely the best this show has been in years. I'm actually excited for the second half of a season for once.
This season will definitely end with a certain moment from issue 144(Coincidentally, 9x16=144)
My guesses as to who dies: Tammy, Ezekiel, one of the kids from the Hilltop, Alden, Rosita, probably a couple redshirts, Tara, and the guy from Magna's group. Wildcard: RJ, Michonne's son.
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Thought this mid season finale was another solid episode. I like the couple deviations they've made from the Comic.....it really brings in to question of 'who' the 'big' deaths are going to be now concerning this war with the Whisperer's. They were shocking when it happened in the comic but now it really could be any of them being that they're mixing some things up.
I loved the introduction of the Whisperers. This is definitely the best this show has been in years. I'm actually excited for the second half of a season for once.
This season will definitely end with a certain moment from issue 144(Coincidentally, 9x16=144)
My guesses as to who dies: Tammy, Ezekiel, one of the kids from the Hilltop, Alden, Rosita, probably a couple redshirts, Tara, and the guy from Magna's group. Wildcard: RJ, Michonne's son.
Yeah, they're definitely talking up "the fair" and highlighting the romantic pairings - that was part of those deaths in that each person was a romantic partner to another character, and a few of them were big characters.
I loved the episode - very tense and a true horror setting with all of the fog and our characters not knowing what was going on around them.
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I loved the introduction of the Whisperers. This is definitely the best this show has been in years. I'm actually excited for the second half of a season for once.
Yeah...no kidding. It's been a while since I actually was bummed I have to wait on the return in February :lol
This season will definitely end with a certain moment from issue 144(Coincidentally, 9x16=144)
My guesses as to who dies: Tammy, Ezekiel, one of the kids from the Hilltop, Alden, Rosita, probably a couple redshirts, Tara, and the guy from Magna's group. Wildcard: RJ, Michonne's son.
With the way that Kang has approached the season with regards of breaking from the comic.....I think there is a variety of ways she could go as far as closing out the season. I could see them swapping out Ezekiel for Michonee for the 'big' death head on a spike.....I think they'll stick with killing Rosita, and could see them offing Tammy and Alden like you said...along with a couple scrubs. I'm wondering if they're moving Tara into comic book Maggie's role now? She may be safe.
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Having never read the comics; did the main character death that happened this last episode also happen in the comics?
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Having never read the comics; did the main character death that happened this last episode also happen in the comics?
Nope, Jesus is still alive and well in the comics. Jesus is one of the first to meet the Whisperers but a redshirt named Doug dies instead during their first encounter.
According to this interview, Tom Payne(Jesus) has wanted out for a while. Can't say I blame him. As cool as his character is in the comics, he's done literally nothing since showing up back in S6.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-tom-payne-exits-jesus-fate-explained-1163273
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Completely understandable and he has a point. Just another character in a long line of characters from the comics that they somehow botched when translating to the show. Tyrese, the Governor, Andrea, Abraham (to an extent) even Negan.....much stronger characters in the comic. I mean, Carol in the show is essentially Andrea from the comics.....but this show certainly has a history of missing the mark when portraying these characters on screen.
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Anyone else still watching this? I've been watching and I can say while it's clear the show isn't quite what it used to be....I've enjoyed this season 9 much more than season 8. I really like the 'tone' of the season and like Kang's approach to telling the story.
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Still watching and rather enjoying the show again - I think this is the best run since they reached Alexandra. The show seems to have regained it's mojo - characters acting like real people (more or less) dialog that is more than just exposition, moral raising speeches and grunts! And the action is much better shot and their is actually some tension again.
Also Negan a cartoon character I hated during the past few seasons, i'm now warming too...
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Still watching and rather enjoying the show again - I think this is the best run since they reached Alexandra. The show seems to have regained it's mojo - characters acting like real people (more or less) dialog that is more than just exposition, moral raising speeches and grunts! And the action is much better shot and their is actually some tension again.
Also Negan a cartoon character I hated during the past few seasons, i'm now warming too...
All good points. I'm cautiously optimistic about how Kang is handling Negan's 'transformation' at the moment. So far....I've really enjoyed it. Was so let down by the way Gimple and Co. trashed the 'All Out War' arc of the comic. Seems that Kang is doing a great job of taking control and reshaping the show....and I've enjoyed this Whisperer arc up to this point.
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I am slightly concerned by the Whisperers, their concept does seem a bit stupid/far fetched, but so far it's been good (certainly much better than the junkyard elves). It is a shame the show did lose it's way at a point where it really should have been epic - if I ever did a rewatch of this show down the line I'd probably skip the last 2 or 3 seasons to be honest.
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I am slightly concerned by the Whisperers, their concept does seem a bit stupid/far fetched, but so far it's been good (certainly much better than the junkyard elves).
I buy the Whisperer attempt at survival. I mean, it's silly and gross but if you don't have the means to protect yourself that well....blending in and hiding in plain sight would work. at least for a bit. I'm not sure about just settling for that 'lifestyle' though. I'd want to work towards a more clean and 'civil' living.
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I'm still enjoying this season. Aside from the one episode that was centered solely on Lydia's interrogation, this last half is escalating very quickly compared to prior seasons (i.e., taking 8 episodes for Rick to finally decide to stand up to The Saviors).
I love The Whisperers They're one of the most formidable and savage groups that the main characters have faced. Bringing the show back to a horror feel helps to set that tone that these people are very, very scary to deal with.
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this last half is escalating very quickly compared to prior seasons
Angela Kang gave an interview where she (once again) took a veiled swipe at Gimple when she said that although she's pleased and happy to know she has another season (season 10) to tell more story that she does not want to 'save' anything or draw anything out....that she wants to get it all onto the table and keep the story going.
The difference in her approach is refreshing. I fear Gimple turned to 'executive' for the show and was taking advantage of a fairly loyal fan base by just dragging the storylines on and on. That's one of the ways he screwed up the 'All Out War' arc......just made it so freaking annoying by drawing it out and having characters say and do things they'd never 'really' do.
Kang is a breath of fresh air for the show.
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Yeah but unfortunately Gimple the best storyline in TWD fell under Gimple's dipshit hands and he royally fucked it up. Kang is doing a great job though, given that she took after the show after the best storylines were behind her and losing Rick, I'm impressed.
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Yeah but unfortunately Gimple the best storyline in TWD fell under Gimple's dipshit hands and he royally fucked it up. Kang is doing a great job though, given that she took after the show after the best storylines were behind her and losing Rick, I'm impressed.
Rick AND Carl....of whom....this whole Whisperer story line they both had pretty huge roles in. I too thing she's done excellent thus far.
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I've never read the comics, are they still ongoing? And how close is TV to catching up the to comic story?
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I've never read the comics, are they still ongoing? And how close is TV to catching up the to comic story?
Yep. I really dig it.
If I had to guess.....at the pace Kang appears to have set....maybe three more full seasons. I’m thinking this season ends with something pretty big in the comic and if that happens then I’d say there’s all of next season for the remainder of the Whisperer arc.....which has some cool stuff in it. Then, two more seasons to get through where their at today in the comic story.
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I really enjoy the hell out of this show. It got a little slow for a few seasons there, but it seems to have improved. What are your predictions for Negan? Do you think he's going to end up being a "good guy" and redeem himself? I've been wondering if he'll slowly start earning everyone's trust by doing something heroic, etc.
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Negan bangs Michone and knocks her up. Then Rick comes back like...
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1xBvdpZs3r27-Ruzmikt6Ofywsv_dnq6h)
Not again...
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I sincerely hope they keep Negan’s story arc from here on out near the same as they did in the comic. It’s perfect for his character and his story. I’m hoping Kang doesn’t screw his development as a character up because Gimple sure hamstrung her with the way he handled Negan.
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These last episodes has been great IMO, I'm happy with the way this show has been handled this last season. Definitely looking forward to the last two episodes of the season.
I really enjoy the hell out of this show. It got a little slow for a few seasons there, but it seems to have improved. What are your predictions for Negan? Do you think he's going to end up being a "good guy" and redeem himself? I've been wondering if he'll slowly start earning everyone's trust by doing something heroic, etc.
I think that seems it will be the case. I'm still unsure how I feel about that, but I've enjoyed Negan and I enjoyed the interaction with Michonne in last episode.
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I've been wondering how good this current series has been (so far). I've really enjoyed it, but is it just a case of anything feels good after the mostly dross they served us with the previous two series? Or it it genuinely back to it best (or maybe better)?
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I've been wondering how good this current series has been (so far). I've really enjoyed it, but is it just a case of anything feels good after the mostly dross they served us with the previous two series? Or it it genuinely back to it best (or maybe better)?
It's a bit of both IMO. The previous two seasons (somehow) were screwed up by Gimple. I honestly think that the head brass at AMC got too involved and that Gimple was more set on creating a nice cushy career for himself with the brand than actually creating a great story. He's shown that he can write great episodes and is creative...but for the life of me I can't figure out how he managed to :censored up the 'All Out War' arc of the comic. It's choc full of great stuff. I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan, but he was led and directed off course with the portrayal of Negan. Not by much....but he's 'off' a bit...just enough to drive comic book readers mad.
I think Kang has done a great job in re-shaping the show and re-establishing a good 'feel' or tone. The show 'feels' different in a good way. For the most part I don't get the sense that there have been many wasted episodes....whereas in seasons past you could count on there being 3-4 episodes that did literally nothing to further the story or character development.
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HOLY CRAP
Tonight's episode (The Calm Before) was incredible. Won't say more until anyone reading this thread has some time to catch the episode, but that ending is so brutal. Negan's introduction was so graphically violent and this was amazing to see with such emotional brutality delivered and lifted straight out of the comics. Kudos to Angela Kang this year!
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What an episode...damn. And it's not even the season finale. Kang has really improved this show in just about every way.
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HOLY CRAP
Tonight's episode (The Calm Before) was incredible. Won't say more until anyone reading this thread has some time to catch the episode, but that ending is so brutal. Negan's introduction was so graphically violent and this was amazing to see with such emotional brutality delivered and lifted straight out of the comics. Kudos to Angela Kang this year!
Holy crap, indeed! That was a shocking and powerful ending.
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HOLY CRAP
Tonight's episode (The Calm Before) was incredible. Won't say more until anyone reading this thread has some time to catch the episode, but that ending is so brutal. Negan's introduction was so graphically violent and this was amazing to see with such emotional brutality delivered and lifted straight out of the comics. Kudos to Angela Kang this year!
Yeah.....it was pretty good and executed well. ‘If’ I had to gripe at all it’d have been my preference that they kept it like the comic and had Ezekiel and Rosita on those pikes as well. But that’s a small nit pic. I think the episode was great and completely agree that Kang has revitalized the show.
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I agree, but the show can't continually kill a lot of its major characters, especially after losing Carl, Rick, and Jesus in the last two seasons. They did a nice fake-out with Ezekiel and Alpha. For me, the drama increased after each couple started splitting up. I was expecting this to happen in the finale, so to have it happen in the second to last episode was a really good shift from the traditional set-up of this show.
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Just catching up to this thread. I haven’t watched TWD since Negan first appeared and holy hell did the show change a lot.
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Great episode, I really enjoyed it! I liked the back and forth in the narrative through the episode. I liked that the pike scene wasn't saved until the finale (or worse, make a cliffhanger out of it). I really like the direction the show has taken. Can't wait to see the finale.
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Seems like the 'finale' was last weeks episode with this episode really only lending to Negan's development and the revelation that there is another voice/community out there reaching out on the radio.
All in all I think this season was a major step up for the show......and it's no coincidence this happened in the wake of Gimple being benched and a fresh new, creative person in Kang given the reigns.
Looking forward to season 10 and to seeing how she continues the story.
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It's only a matter of time before she screws it up too.
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It's only a matter of time before she screws it up too.
I hope not. But, when Gimple came on as Show Runner he did quite well also. He turned Mazerras mess around pretty well. But somewhere along the line he went ‘corporate’ IMO. Hope Kang avoids that fate.
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This season was definitely the best in a long time, but I do think it's time to end the show. 10 Seasons is enough. Next season is Michonne's last season, and assuming Maggie never comes back, they're running out of characters people care about. Ratings are at an all time low and they'll just continue to get lower once Michonne leaves, so I think it's time to start thinking about the endgame. They're starting to catch up to the comics pretty quickly, and I think they could write the upcoming story arc into a fitting finale.
If they continue to follow the comics closely, this is my prediction for S10
A timeskip of a few months to get through winter. As cool as it was to see snow, I think it's a one time thing. The first half of the season is the continuing Whisperer conflict. Eugene or Ezekiel or somebody stays in contact with the person on the Radio. Negan goes off and kills Alpha to gain Michonne's trust. Daryl takes Dwight's role from the comics as the leader of the militia. Gabriel and a few other characters die in the war. Beta unleashes the giant herd on Alexandria. Michonne gets bit, taking Andrea's death from the comics. The herd is dealt with. Negan decides to go off alone and leave the DC area, and his fate is left open ended. Daryl and a group are sent off to meet up with the people from the Radio. Judith joins the group, and they travel to Ohio to the Commonwealth. Rick and Maggie are there, and idk they all live happily ever after.
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This season was definitely the best in a long time, but I do think it's time to end the show. 10 Seasons is enough. Next season is Michonne's last season, and assuming Maggie never comes back, they're running out of characters people care about. Ratings are at an all time low and they'll just continue to get lower once Michonne leaves, so I think it's time to start thinking about the endgame. They're starting to catch up to the comics pretty quickly, and I think they could write the upcoming story arc into a fitting finale.
If they continue to follow the comics closely, this is my prediction for S10
A timeskip of a few months to get through winter. As cool as it was to see snow, I think it's a one time thing. The first half of the season is the continuing Whisperer conflict. Eugene or Ezekiel or somebody stays in contact with the person on the Radio. Negan goes off and kills Alpha to gain Michonne's trust. Daryl takes Dwight's role from the comics as the leader of the militia. Gabriel and a few other characters die in the war. Beta unleashes the giant herd on Alexandria. Michonne gets bit, taking Andrea's death from the comics. The herd is dealt with. Negan decides to go off alone and leave the DC area, and his fate is left open ended. Daryl and a group are sent off to meet up with the people from the Radio. Judith joins the group, and they travel to Ohio to the Commonwealth. Rick and Maggie are there, and idk they all live happily ever after.
I dig your prediction. Would work out perfectly actually....would be a fitting 'end'.
I think they could still play off the Walking Dead world and explore other places/times etc etc. if they wanted to stick with the Walking Dead. But I tend to agree that despite the show having a bit of rebirth they have for all intents and purposes caught up with the source material in the aspect of if they continue to tell the story at the 'new' pace that Kang has established (much quicker and less drawn out than Gimple) that they maybe have (2) full seasons left....but could do it in one.
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A new spin-off or something?
https://streamable.com/txpap
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This season was definitely the best in a long time, but I do think it's time to end the show. 10 Seasons is enough. Next season is Michonne's last season, and assuming Maggie never comes back, they're running out of characters people care about. Ratings are at an all time low and they'll just continue to get lower once Michonne leaves, so I think it's time to start thinking about the endgame. They're starting to catch up to the comics pretty quickly, and I think they could write the upcoming story arc into a fitting finale.
If they continue to follow the comics closely, this is my prediction for S10
A timeskip of a few months to get through winter. As cool as it was to see snow, I think it's a one time thing. The first half of the season is the continuing Whisperer conflict. Eugene or Ezekiel or somebody stays in contact with the person on the Radio. Negan goes off and kills Alpha to gain Michonne's trust. Daryl takes Dwight's role from the comics as the leader of the militia. Gabriel and a few other characters die in the war. Beta unleashes the giant herd on Alexandria. Michonne gets bit, taking Andrea's death from the comics. The herd is dealt with. Negan decides to go off alone and leave the DC area, and his fate is left open ended. Daryl and a group are sent off to meet up with the people from the Radio. Judith joins the group, and they travel to Ohio to the Commonwealth. Rick and Maggie are there, and idk they all live happily ever after.
I dig your prediction. Would work out perfectly actually....would be a fitting 'end'.
I think they could still play off the Walking Dead world and explore other places/times etc etc. if they wanted to stick with the Walking Dead. But I tend to agree that despite the show having a bit of rebirth they have for all intents and purposes caught up with the source material in the aspect of if they continue to tell the story at the 'new' pace that Kang has established (much quicker and less drawn out than Gimple) that they maybe have (2) full seasons left....but could do it in one.
I still think they blew it with Fear the Walking Dead (though I've heard the show was good). I was really hoping for several season of the epidemic slowly unfolding. I was not expecting to be in the full blown zombie apocalypse until several seasons in, and instead we got there in like 4 episodes.
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I still think they blew it with Fear the Walking Dead (though I've heard the show was good). I was really hoping for several season of the epidemic slowly unfolding. I was not expecting to be in the full blown zombie apocalypse until several seasons in, and instead we got there in like 4 episodes.
FEAR has been a conundrum. S1 was solid.....S2 was utter rubbish.....S3 was it's best IMO....S4 had a strong first (8) episodes then wretched back half (8).....and now S5 has been all over the place. It's pretty obvious they don't know what type of story they want to tell. Which, is why S3 was so good. they had a very clear story they were telling and nailed it. They've been scatter brained ever since. handful of cool episodes followed by utter junk that a high schooler could write.
I 'like' the genre....so I'll always watch these shows.....but the lore and shine is long gone. I'm hoping the new spinoff takes a different approach but with Gimple still involved I suspect we get more of the same. Also very curious as to how these three Rick Grimes movies are going to go.
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The new series is apparently filming in Hopewell, VA. Only about 30 minutes away from me. Interesting choice of location, but I'm still indifferent to any spinoffs.
I stopped watching FTWD after 1 season, and from what I've heard there isn't much reason to catch up with it.
I'm curious about the Rick spinoff movies(Which apparently takes place in Philadelphia), but I'm not sure about releasing it in theaters. Seems like it'd make more sense as a TV movie.
I've been rooting for the main show to wrap things up, and now that the comics are finished, I'm even more ready for it to be done. To put it in perspective, S9 ended around issue 145 and the comics end at issue 193. They're less than 50 issues away from the end, so they have to be thinking about an endgame unless they plan on veering away from the source material 100% (please god no).
This season was definitely the best in a long time, but I do think it's time to end the show. 10 Seasons is enough. Next season is Michonne's last season, and assuming Maggie never comes back, they're running out of characters people care about. Ratings are at an all time low and they'll just continue to get lower once Michonne leaves, so I think it's time to start thinking about the endgame. They're starting to catch up to the comics pretty quickly, and I think they could write the upcoming story arc into a fitting finale.
If they continue to follow the comics closely, this is my prediction for S10
A timeskip of a few months to get through winter. As cool as it was to see snow, I think it's a one time thing. The first half of the season is the continuing Whisperer conflict. Eugene or Ezekiel or somebody stays in contact with the person on the Radio. Negan goes off and kills Alpha to gain Michonne's trust. Daryl takes Dwight's role from the comics as the leader of the militia. Gabriel and a few other characters die in the war. Beta unleashes the giant herd on Alexandria. Michonne gets bit, taking Andrea's death from the comics. The herd is dealt with. Negan decides to go off alone and leave the DC area, and his fate is left open ended. Daryl and a group are sent off to meet up with the people from the Radio. Judith joins the group, and they travel to Ohio to the Commonwealth. Rick and Maggie are there, and idk they all live happily ever after.
I still stand by these predictions, but maybe change one thing since this probably won't be the final season.
End the season with the introduction of the Commonwealth, and have season 11 be a shortened season of maybe 10 episodes. Have Daryl and Judith and others arrive at the Commonwealth, and Daryl takes Rick role from the comics since Andrew Lincoln apparently isn't coming back. I don't care what else they do honestly, but the series finale should be issue 193 showing Judith all grown up and the rest of the characters living happily ever after.
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I'm curious about the Rick spinoff movies(Which apparently takes place in Philadelphia), but I'm not sure about releasing it in theaters. Seems like it'd make more sense as a TV movie.
I had thought they said that the plan was for these to be feature length movies but they would air on AMC? I hadn't heard that they actually were going to release them in theaters?
I've been rooting for the main show to wrap things up, and now that the comics are finished, I'm even more ready for it to be done. To put it in perspective, S9 ended around issue 145 and the comics end at issue 193. They're less than 50 issues away from the end, so they have to be thinking about an endgame unless they plan on veering away from the source material 100% (please god no).
This season was definitely the best in a long time, but I do think it's time to end the show. 10 Seasons is enough. Next season is Michonne's last season, and assuming Maggie never comes back, they're running out of characters people care about. Ratings are at an all time low and they'll just continue to get lower once Michonne leaves, so I think it's time to start thinking about the endgame. They're starting to catch up to the comics pretty quickly, and I think they could write the upcoming story arc into a fitting finale.
If they continue to follow the comics closely, this is my prediction for S10
A timeskip of a few months to get through winter. As cool as it was to see snow, I think it's a one time thing. The first half of the season is the continuing Whisperer conflict. Eugene or Ezekiel or somebody stays in contact with the person on the Radio. Negan goes off and kills Alpha to gain Michonne's trust. Daryl takes Dwight's role from the comics as the leader of the militia. Gabriel and a few other characters die in the war. Beta unleashes the giant herd on Alexandria. Michonne gets bit, taking Andrea's death from the comics. The herd is dealt with. Negan decides to go off alone and leave the DC area, and his fate is left open ended. Daryl and a group are sent off to meet up with the people from the Radio. Judith joins the group, and they travel to Ohio to the Commonwealth. Rick and Maggie are there, and idk they all live happily ever after.
I still stand by these predictions, but maybe change one thing since this probably won't be the final season.
End the season with the introduction of the Commonwealth, and have season 11 be a shortened season of maybe 10 episodes. Have Daryl and Judith and others arrive at the Commonwealth, and Daryl takes Rick role from the comics since Andrew Lincoln apparently isn't coming back. I don't care what else they do honestly, but the series finale should be issue 193 showing Judith all grown up and the rest of the characters living happily ever after.
I'm with you....on the need for the show to wrap up and them doing so close to how you've suggested. It's a shame the series went from a show to just really an avenue for AMC to 'brand' TWD and sell it all over the place. I get it....good for them on making some $$$ but while doing so they missed a great opportunity to make an incredible show.
I stopped watching FTWD after 1 season, and from what I've heard there isn't much reason to catch up with it.
Like I mentioned....S3 was really good IMO because there was a clear, focused direction for the characters and the story was really well done. Even the first part of S4 was really good. Then...second half of S4 just went off the rails as far as how silly/dumb episodes were getting and to give you an idea about this S5 I'm (2) episodes behind with little incentive to catch up on them.
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I'm curious about the Rick spinoff movies(Which apparently takes place in Philadelphia), but I'm not sure about releasing it in theaters. Seems like it'd make more sense as a TV movie.
I had thought they said that the plan was for these to be feature length movies but they would air on AMC? I hadn't heard that they actually were going to release them in theaters?
From the teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q92njKgWh8
"Rick Grimes Returns
Only in Theaters"
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I'm curious about the Rick spinoff movies(Which apparently takes place in Philadelphia), but I'm not sure about releasing it in theaters. Seems like it'd make more sense as a TV movie.
I had thought they said that the plan was for these to be feature length movies but they would air on AMC? I hadn't heard that they actually were going to release them in theaters?
From the teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q92njKgWh8
"Rick Grimes Returns
Only in Theaters"
Huh...ok then. I had misunderstood that from get go. I agree, it's a bit of a stretch to throw these in the theater.
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I'm curious about the Rick spinoff movies(Which apparently takes place in Philadelphia), but I'm not sure about releasing it in theaters. Seems like it'd make more sense as a TV movie.
I had thought they said that the plan was for these to be feature length movies but they would air on AMC? I hadn't heard that they actually were going to release them in theaters?
From the teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q92njKgWh8
"Rick Grimes Returns
Only in Theaters"
Huh...ok then. I had misunderstood that from get go. I agree, it's a bit of a stretch to throw these in the theater.
Maybe with Zombie Land 2 and 28 Months Later coming out, they think they can hop on the theatrical zombie train.