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Title: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on September 22, 2018, 08:36:40 AM
Netflix is making a live action adaptation of The Witcher.

Series is based on the five part saga of novels, and a bunch of short stories written by polish author Andrzej Sapkowski. This adaptation won't be based on the video games, although it is likely that there will be some Easter eggs for the fans of the games!

Not to get too deep into the lore, but The Witcher games by CD Projekt Red are set after the events of the books. The upcoming series is based on the short stories and novels, which means our main characters will be slightly younger than what we see in the games. Including a child/teen Ciri.

Henry Cavill has been cast as Geralt, one of the main characters. No word on castings for the other main characters still, Including Yennefer, Ciri, Dandelion/Jaskier or Vilgefortz.

Obviously Netflix want's this to be their flagship fantasy series, to compete with Game of Thrones or the upcoming Lord of the Rings show by HBO. Shooting for the show should begin soon, and late 2019 release for season 1 is expected.

I'm so far optimistic about this. Anyone else excited and or interested?

Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 22, 2018, 09:32:18 AM
I can't wait to see how it turns out. I love the witcher
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 22, 2018, 01:35:10 PM
Sounds cool, will follow this.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on October 10, 2018, 11:13:28 AM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/witcher-netflix-show-casts-ciri-yennefer-roles-1150868

Some more casting news has come out. Anya Chalotra will be Yennefer and Freya Allan is portraying Ciri. Some more cast members were also unveiled; including Jodhi May as Ciri's grandmother Calanthe, MyAnna Buring as Tissaia De Vries and Millie Brady as Reinfri.

I love that they didn't went with someone obvious like Eva Green for Yennefer. It would have been very obvious typecasting. Chalotra is 22 years old, so it remains to be seen if she can pull of a confidence of Yen, who is almost a 100 years old in the books.
Never heard of the little girl who is going to be Ciri, but she definitely has the look of a pre teen Ciri. Some more cast members will obviously be announced later..

With all the characters that have been cast so far, I'm willing to bet that the first season is based of the book "The Last Wish". The Last Wish is a collection of short stories, which means all the episodes of season 1 would be standalone stories. Including Geralt's and Yennefer's backstory and their first encounter. Then the hypothetical season 2 would kick off the more connected saga storyline, beginning with "Blood of Elves".

Enough rambling and speculation, but I'm getting pretty excited honestly! :lol


Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: kaos2900 on October 10, 2018, 11:55:14 AM
If done well this could be the next Game of Thrones.
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Post by: ariich on October 10, 2018, 12:07:18 PM
I really need to read the books. I've played the games (which I understand basically take place after the books) and loved them - loved the world and the ideas and some of the key characters. Looking forward to this but might try and catch up on the books first.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2018, 07:05:16 PM
I really need to read the books. I've played the games (which I understand basically take place after the books) and loved them - loved the world and the ideas and some of the key characters. Looking forward to this but might try and catch up on the books first.

Ditto!
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on January 23, 2019, 09:09:51 AM
Bump!

Trailer is still ways off, and season 1 is still filming. Nevertheless I thought it would be a good idea to update this thread and list the complete cast for season 1. There are still some roles to be filled, but most of season 1 is cast.

There is also some rumors that Netflix has already greenlit season 2 and 3, without even seeing any footage. If that's true, they must have faith that this can become a smash hit.

So, here is complete cast of season 1:

Henry Cavill - Geralt of Rivia
Freya Allan - Cirilla
Joey Batey - Jaskier/ Dandelion in English translation of the book, and in Witcher games
Millie Brady - Princess Renfri
Anya Chalotra - Yennefer of Vengerberg
Anna Shaffer - Triss Merigold
MyAnna Buring - Tissaia De Vries
Mimi Ndiveni -  Fringilla Vigo
Therica Wilson-Read - Sabrina Glevissig
Tom Canton - Filavandrel
Imogen Daines - Danica
Eamon Farren - Cahir
Jodi May - Queen Calanthe
Björn Haraldsson - Eist
Adam Levy - Mousesack/ Ermion in Witcher 3
Lars Mikkelsen - Stregobor
Maciej Musial - Sir Lazlo
Royce Pierreson - Istredd
Wilson Radjou-Pujalte - Dara
Amit Shah - Torque
Natasha Culzac - Toruviel

Not naming the extras, but here you go. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ariich on January 23, 2019, 09:56:55 AM
Looks like they're going GOT style and sticking with British cast (and presumably accents) all round. I do always find it a bit weird in the games how it's almost entirely British and Irish accents, but then just a handful of major characters have American accents for apparently no particular reason (Geralt, Dandilion, Triss).
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ariich on January 23, 2019, 09:57:32 AM
I really need to read the books. I've played the games (which I understand basically take place after the books) and loved them - loved the world and the ideas and some of the key characters. Looking forward to this but might try and catch up on the books first.

Ditto!
Made any progress Chad? I decided to dive in, and am about halfway through Time of Contempt so far.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2019, 10:39:04 AM
Sadly no.  Reading has fallen by the wayside with respect to how I spend my limited disposable time - and it will be for the foreseeable future... at least until the summer (ie, after the move and majority of unpacking / setting up new place).
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Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on January 23, 2019, 12:42:54 PM
If done well this could be the next Game of Thrones.

This. A few people I know who watch Netflix were like... "I see they are making a Witcher show. What is that?" And I respond with, "If Netflix does it correctly, it will be their next hit like Stranger Things."

I randomly started reading the books last week. Currently halfway through Blood of Elves.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ariich on January 23, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
Did you start with the short story collections TOX?
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on January 25, 2019, 06:34:16 AM
Did you start with the short story collections TOX?

Sadly, I did not. I started with Blood of Elves since that was all they had at the book store. :lol
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ariich on January 25, 2019, 06:41:18 AM
Did you start with the short story collections TOX?

Sadly, I did not. I started with Blood of Elves since that was all they had at the book store. :lol
Ah, I mostly use Amazon (either Kindle or ordering books) so everything is available. That's a shame, almost everything that's happening in the main books is set up in the short stories.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on January 25, 2019, 10:47:02 AM
Did you start with the short story collections TOX?

Sadly, I did not. I started with Blood of Elves since that was all they had at the book store. :lol
Ah, I mostly use Amazon (either Kindle or ordering books) so everything is available. That's a shame, almost everything that's happening in the main books is set up in the short stories.

I bought the saga also. Found the entire saga translated to Finnish in this neat little bookstore. They claim that Season of Storms, The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny are translated to Finnish, but I haven't found those anywhere.

I didn't have any problems catching up with the story, when I began from Blood of Elves. Still i'd love to have the short story collections as well.
Especially, since it is rumored that the Season 1 of the show is going to focus on The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on May 22, 2019, 01:17:17 AM
Bump/Update.

If anyone is looking to stay up to date with all the news regarding The Witcher, this is a great place to go to:

https://redanianintelligence.wordpress.com

They got some great posts regarding everything from cast changes to shooting locations and everything in between! These guys have also sources claiming, that the pilot will air in Netflix in 20th of December! :tup
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on July 01, 2019, 10:23:21 AM
First look at Geralt, Yen and Ciri!

https://ew.com/tv/2019/07/01/netflix-the-witcher-photos/ (https://ew.com/tv/2019/07/01/netflix-the-witcher-photos/)

Looks spot on to me! :metal I'm surprised at how closely Cavill resembles the CDPR Witcher 3 version of Geralt.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 02, 2019, 06:24:41 AM
Yeah, that's sweet.  Damn, I really need to read the books!
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 02, 2019, 07:18:39 AM
Really excited for this but I only played the games. I might have to check out the books.

I'm not very knowledgeable about the overall lore to be honest because I only played Witcher 3. Maybe someone could answer this:

Let's say GoT is the "adult version" of LotR and The Witcher is the "adult games" of The Elder Scrolls, where do The Witcher land?
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on July 03, 2019, 04:16:08 AM
Assuming I understood the question correctly, I can take a stab at answering that! :D

So how do The Witcher series compare to LotR and GoT? Mind you I'm not that knowledgable about GoT lore..

The Witcher, like GoT is a "Twisted" version of a Tolkien-esque fantasy world. The Witcher is a more personal and smaller scale story compared to LotR and GoT. Sure there is a war in the world of The Witcher, and there are hints about a world ending cataclysm: The White Frost and a "Supernatural" enemy: The Wild Hunt. But the core of the story is the struggle of Geralt, Yennefer and Ciri. Ciri is important to the future of the world, and Geralt and Yennefer have to make sure that Ciri does not fall into the wrong hands.

So The Witcher is a "adult version" of LotR like GoT, but a more personal and intimate story compared to GoT. I hope that answered the question. ;D
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 03, 2019, 08:10:30 AM
Assuming I understood the question correctly, I can take a stab at answering that! :D

So how do The Witcher series compare to LotR and GoT? Mind you I'm not that knowledgable about GoT lore..

The Witcher, like GoT is a "Twisted" version of a Tolkien-esque fantasy world. The Witcher is a more personal and smaller scale story compared to LotR and GoT. Sure there is a war in the world of The Witcher, and there are hints about a world ending cataclysm: The White Frost and a "Supernatural" enemy: The Wild Hunt. But the core of the story is the struggle of Geralt, Yennefer and Ciri. Ciri is important to the future of the world, and Geralt and Yennefer have to make sure that Ciri does not fall into the wrong hands.

So The Witcher is a "adult version" of LotR like GoT, but a more personal and intimate story compared to GoT. I hope that answered the question. ;D
Yea upon reviewing my own question i'm not sure I understand it better.  :lol

The answer was solid though, thx!  :tup
Title: The Witcher - Netflix
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 19, 2019, 07:43:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSqi-8kAMmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUqVCo56tzo spanish subs

I won’t lie I was skeptical at announcement, but I’m sold.
Title: Re: The Witcher - Netflix
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 19, 2019, 08:00:54 PM
Looks pretty good.

I need to go back and finish Witcher 3
Title: Re: The Witcher - Netflix
Post by: Polarbear on July 19, 2019, 10:35:14 PM
Made a thread about this a while back, but I'm sure mods can merge the two threads at some point. ;D

Anyway, that looked really good! :tup Only one who hasn't sold me yet, is Anya Chalotra as Yen but I'm sure she will eventually. And from watching the trailer, I'm now 100% sure that the first season focusses on the books "The Last Wish" and "The Sword of Destiny".

Edit. And oh yeah, I got goosebumps from the end when Geralt is about to fight a Arachasae! :hefdaddy
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Post by: TioJorge on July 19, 2019, 11:49:25 PM
I still have yet to play through the Witcher series, but I put a good few hours into 3 doing sidequests and such. This might make me play through 2/3 (With 1's mechanics...I just can't). Looks pretty entertaining though!
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ariich on July 20, 2019, 02:24:26 AM
Made a thread about this a while back, but I'm sure mods can merge the two threads at some point. ;D
Yep, done.

Ministro, you could have just checked whether there was a thread already, it was only half way down the first page. :P

EDIT: Trailer looks amazing!
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 20, 2019, 09:00:06 AM
Made a thread about this a while back, but I'm sure mods can merge the two threads at some point. ;D
Yep, done.

Ministro, you could have just checked whether there was a thread already, it was only half way down the first page. :P

EDIT: Trailer looks amazing!

Yes, the excitement won me over, sorry
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2019, 12:48:46 PM
Witcher 3 was the tits.  I really need to get/read the books before this comes out, but I doubt I will be able to make the time.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on October 31, 2019, 11:15:26 AM
https://youtu.be/ndl1W4ltcmg

Official main trailer has arrived! Season 1 is coming to Netflix on December 20th.

Everything i've seen has me hyped! :hefdaddy I want this to be great, so badly. The books are awesome, and a perfect source material for an epic fantasy show!
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 31, 2019, 11:19:08 AM
Looks good. Can't wait!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2019, 11:42:19 AM
Man I'm so stoked for this.  Clearly I'm not going to get to the books in the next 6 weeks - cuz I still have 2 left in the series I'm reading (which slowed to a stall the past few weeks).

Bummer.

But awesome for the show.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 31, 2019, 11:54:36 AM
Man I'm so stoked for this.  Clearly I'm not going to get to the books in the next 6 weeks - cuz I still have 2 left in the series I'm reading (which slowed to a stall the past few weeks).

I have never cracked one of the books and am just hoping they've approached this series as a complete storytelling opportunity and are not counting on me (us) to have read these to enjoy the show. It doesn't look like you'll need to have read them.
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Post by: ariich on October 31, 2019, 02:41:56 PM
I finally finished the books, and to be honest I found the end a little on the underwhelming side. But I'm hopeful that the show can do a good job with it, the trailer looks awesome.

I can completely see why the video game makers wanted to have the games continue the story (with a little interpretation of the end of the books) and even though they're obviously not canon they feel like they provide a more satisfying conclusion.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 31, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
Looks cool, hopefully the show will deliver!
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on December 06, 2019, 01:10:00 PM
I have been very excited to hear the score of the show, and how it stacks up against the brilliant scores of Witcher 2 and 3 by CDPR. Now the composer has released two tracks from the official score and they sound pretty awesome! :metal

https://redanianintelligence.com/2019/12/06/listen-to-two-songs-from-netflixs-the-witcher-composed-by-sonya-belousova-and-giona-ostinelli/

"Toss a Coin To Your Witcher" is also being sung by Joey Batey who plays Jaskier/ Dandelion in the show.

Just a few days, and i can binge this on Netflix! :tup
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on December 07, 2019, 06:05:13 AM
I haven't read the books, but my friends have and they say they're fantastic. The games look really beautiful, and if they find some locations that match the beauty, we're in for a treat. Cavill is well cast. What's not to like!
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Post by: Zydar on December 20, 2019, 08:00:58 AM
Premier today on Netflix. Has anyone watched it yet? I've read one review so far and it's not that positive (it got a 2 out of 5).
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 20, 2019, 08:04:22 AM
Premier today on Netflix. Has anyone watched it yet? I've read one review so far and it's not that positive (it got a 2 out of 5).

Haven't watched....probably won't get a chance until Sunday to even attempt. And, the reviews I've seen are the opposite. I've heard it's fantastic....especially the fight scenes.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: The Walrus on December 20, 2019, 08:34:24 AM
Thanks for the heads up - will watch this after work.

I've played a little of Witcher 3 but essentially know nothing about the plot. This is one franchise I'm going to watch and truly not be bothered by not knowing the background story and world from the games or the books, so I just hope as a TV show, on its own, it is enjoyable and substantial.  :corn
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: TioJorge on December 20, 2019, 11:08:46 AM
Only watched the fist two episodes and it's not horrible. But I'll echo some other reviews and say it's a bit more...campy/soapy than I expected. Some of the actors are definitely not the best, but I'm (and I assume a lot of others are) gonna watch it mainly for Geralt, and Henry is just fine at worst and mostly great to watch. If you're expecting GoT-level of acting and cinematography though...maybe just don't even waste your time. It's more of a fun time, B-grade kind of show. A lot of the teasers and stuff did the show a great disservice by trying to show it as something it is very clearly not. Cool fight scenes already though that are done great and the visuals are neat.

Basically unless you're a diehard fan of the books or expect GoT, you'll probably enjoy this. I think I will, I'm gonna continue on watching later. I really don't think the whole "seasons upon seasons" will happen though, I'm kind of floored they renewed it for S2 already. I hope it does well though, I can see S2 being a great leap better than this if they sharpen up the edges and acting.
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Post by: ariich on December 20, 2019, 03:59:51 PM
Just so I understand Tio, are you comparing the acting, cinematography, "campyness" etc with the first season of GOT, or the latter seasons?
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: TioJorge on December 20, 2019, 04:17:58 PM
Oh no, I'm not comparing it at all, that was kind of my point. Sorry, maybe I worded that weird. I think a lot of people are comparing or expecting it to be on that level, and I think that's why a lot of people seem to be disappointed. This is it's own thing and while there's obviously some similarities here and there, to compare it would be to set yourself up for disappointment, that was my only reason in bringing it up.

It's very well done still, but no one is going to win any best actor awards here, I don't think. But it's a very pretty show, it's got some great music, and the acting isn't grating or anything, far from it most of the time. But I did find myself kind of giving that wincing face now and again with some of the lines. I'm on episode 4 now and am still liking it, moreso than when I first posted. Most of all, the show is just fun. It's an enjoyable watch thus far.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Podaar on December 21, 2019, 05:53:56 AM
We watched the first two episodes last night. I don't know, I think it was pretty great!

Whoever is responsible for choreographing the street fight scene needs to win some kind of award. Holy balls, that was intense, violent and perfectly believable. Without resorting to flourish, they really sold the idea that Geralt's skill with blades is head a shoulders above almost anyone's.

I think Henry is doing a fine job.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on December 21, 2019, 06:07:34 AM
As a big fan of the witcher, I’m loving it so far!

I will give my full impressions after i’ve watched the entire thing.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ErHaO on December 21, 2019, 09:48:07 AM
In which book(s) is the first season based?
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Polarbear on December 21, 2019, 10:03:36 AM
In which book(s) is the first season based?

The Last Wish and The Sword of Destiny, with some of their own ideas thrown in.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 22, 2019, 04:11:34 AM
A couple episodes in and the show is very good.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 22, 2019, 06:31:35 AM
Saw the first episode and had to boot up Witcher 3 after and start a new chapter. Still looks great but it's crazy that it's almost 5 years since the release.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: The Walrus on December 23, 2019, 02:00:36 AM
A couple episodes in and the show is very good.

This is where I'm at right now. I'm glad I have zero investment this time on the adaptation's faithfulness to the original, so I can just enjoy it as a show. I think it's doing a great job so far. Cavill is knocking it out of the park as Geralt.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ariich on December 23, 2019, 02:48:16 AM
6 episodes out of 8 and yeah I think it's excellent.

I love the games but they take place after the books (a sort of non-canon extension/reboot, sort of thing). I've read the books and I like them, but I didn't love them overall (a bit up and down).

I think the show has real potential though. Already the way they've adapted the first two books is working really well - those books were short story collections that had some humour and a real "side quest" feel to them, and they've captured that really nicely while also hitting all the key points that set up the more focused story that comes later on.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 23, 2019, 04:49:04 AM

This is where I'm at right now. I'm glad I have zero investment this time on the adaptation's faithfulness to the original, so I can just enjoy it as a show. I think it's doing a great job so far. Cavill is knocking it out of the park as Geralt.

Oh I totally agree and I was just coming here to also post about Cavil's performance. Man, does he nail it. 

My only nitpick is the time jumps are a little hard to follow, but beside that I really enjoy the show.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 23, 2019, 05:59:08 AM
Yea I have to agree the show is better than I thought, I wanted it to be good but had my doubts.

The monster fights are really fun and combat in general is top notch!
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Grappler on December 23, 2019, 10:31:55 AM
My only nitpick is the time jumps are a little hard to follow, but beside that I really enjoy the show.

I felt the same - I was looking at a Witcher wiki website just to familiarize myself with some of the names/terms that the characters use and had no clue that there are different timelines.  It all feels like it's happening at the same time. 

Other than that, I'm enjoying it.  I think I have 3 or 4 episodes left to watch.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Zantera on December 25, 2019, 01:44:16 AM
For me the time jumps created a bit of a feeling of disorientation in the first episodes but it's also what makes the season feel SO satisfying by the time you get to the last 3 episodes or so when things start to connect. I think this season was really great and I can't wait for s2!
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: TioJorge on December 25, 2019, 09:45:31 AM
Okay yeah, that was awesome. I think they could've done all the time jumps a lot better. Now, I'm not expecting the usual "WE ARE NOW EXPERIENCING VISUAL OF THE PAST" type transition scene. But doing the usual "color-tone Breaking Bad shift" would've been nice, or something else just to indicate slightly that we were in the past or had time jumped somehow. But how they connected it at the end, if you were paying attention at all or are not watching the show over a long period of time (which is the real issue since no one can really be faulted for that, though that isn't the state of the majority these days), it's pretty clear still.

Other than that, immensely fun season and a great start, I think they can correct the pretty simple errors made this season and that the next one will hopefully be even better that will give way to even more stories for an S3.

Also, watching Henry talk about this role in interviews has given me a new respect for the man, he WORKED for this shit and wanted it. That's really cool and something I haven't seen a lot of from actors (though I'm sure they're out there in spades, I just haven't seen it). Really cool guy and honestly the only reason I liked this season so much. Though I LOVED Yen's story and the actress herself, really heartbreaking and awesome all at once. Power goes RIGHT to the head lol. Literally, in her case.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ariich on December 25, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
For me the time jumps created a bit of a feeling of disorientation in the first episodes but it's also what makes the season feel SO satisfying by the time you get to the last 3 episodes or so when things start to connect. I think this season was really great and I can't wait for s2!
I agree, the season builds so well.

I actually like the fact that it's not obvious at the start, small references that give it away. E.g. Geralt meets Foltest and finds out about his incestuous relationship with his sister (off-topic: I'm sure this will lead some to make GoT comparisons but these Witcher books came out a few years before GoT did), and then the next scene I think is Yen at a ball where Foltest and his sister are still children being told to behave themselves. The way they're telling the story is just really rewarding for viewers who like to pay attention and spot little things like that.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 25, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
I plan on starting this either tonight or tomorrow.....but am glad to know to pay extra attention when concerning the time aspect.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 26, 2019, 04:45:48 AM
I plan on starting this either tonight or tomorrow.....but am glad to know to pay extra attention when concerning the time aspect.

Ditto.

I also got 2 Witcher books for Christmas - neither of the ones that the show is based on though.   :D
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Post by: ariich on December 26, 2019, 06:18:05 AM
I plan on starting this either tonight or tomorrow.....but am glad to know to pay extra attention when concerning the time aspect.

Ditto.

I also got 2 Witcher books for Christmas - neither of the ones that the show is based on though.   :D
How so? What books were they?
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Post by: MinistroRaven on December 26, 2019, 09:27:08 AM
I am on episode 4 now. I am enjoying the show really much. Never read the books or play the game so it is all new to me and it is so fascinating!!!
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Post by: Phoenix87x on December 26, 2019, 04:09:31 PM
The main part that got me really screwed up with the time jump is when the queen is having the ball/gathering for her daughter to get a husband and the porcupine guy shows up.

I completely thought that was the grand daughter, not realizing it was her mother and I was like "wait, the queen is dead, but the grand daughter is now an adult... how is this happening?"

Took me a minute  :lol
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Post by: ariich on December 26, 2019, 05:54:15 PM
The main part that got me really screwed up with the time jump is when the queen is having the ball/gathering for her daughter to get a husband and the porcupine guy shows up.

I completely thought that was the grand daughter, not realizing it was her mother and I was like "wait, the queen is dead, but the grand daughter is now an adult... how is this happening?"

Took me a minute  :lol
Yeah I guess the show was doing three separate story lines, one for each of the main characters. Yennefers started longest ago and so has the biggest time jumps (the first being 3 decades I think), and Ciri's being by far the shortest, all taking place over a short amount of time (a few days/weeks I think). Where I think some viewers (especially those who haven't read the books) may get caught out is where Geralt's and Yen's stories start to catch up with Ciri's and they all begin to come together. It's really well done though, excellent storytelling and a really clever adaptation that is still incredibly faithful. Only one season in but I'm very impressed with Schmidt Hissrich so far.
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Post by: lonestar on December 26, 2019, 10:52:55 PM
Damn, that show went from 0 to HOLY SHIT in episode 4 real quick. Kick ass episode man  :metal
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Post by: gmillerdrake on December 27, 2019, 02:26:00 AM
Damn, that show went from 0 to HOLY SHIT in episode 4 real quick. Kick ass episode man  :metal

No kidding! I just hammered out the first (4) episodes. I’m glad I peeked in here and knew to pay attention to keeping an eye out for ‘when’ in the story they’re telling stuff is happening.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2019, 10:30:02 AM
I plan on starting this either tonight or tomorrow.....but am glad to know to pay extra attention when concerning the time aspect.

Ditto.

I also got 2 Witcher books for Christmas - neither of the ones that the show is based on though.   :D
How so? What books were they?

Blood of Elves, and Time of Contempt
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Post by: ariich on December 27, 2019, 11:00:28 AM
I plan on starting this either tonight or tomorrow.....but am glad to know to pay extra attention when concerning the time aspect.

Ditto.

I also got 2 Witcher books for Christmas - neither of the ones that the show is based on though.   :D
How so? What books were they?

Blood of Elves, and Time of Contempt
Ah OK, season 2 will start on Blood of Elves as that's what comes next. I know some people have just started with that and not bothered with the two short story collections that come first (which season 1 was based on), but I'm glad I didn't skip them as they really cover the key beginnings of the character and story arcs.
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Post by: Polarbear on December 27, 2019, 11:26:54 AM
Ok, i have watched the entire season and I really loved the whole thing! Not perfect but a really solid start.

Small Spoilers

As someone who has read the books, I figured out the time jumps immediately in the first episode. I was really surprised when it jumped into the invasion of Cintra from Blaviken and I wondered, Isn't there supposed to be many years between these two events! :lol So I didn't get the holy shit moments later, but I was curious to see how they were going to give this information to the casual viewer. And I think it was done really well. The first hint was definitely Child Foltest and Adda in episode 3...


Most of the actors nailed their roles. Henry Cavill, Joey Batey and Anya Chalotra in particular. Anna Shafer as Triss left me a little cold, but she can improve later on when they give her and her character more to do. Production values were really good, and hopefully even better next season if Netflix gives them more money to spend per episode. Villentretenmerth the Dragon was done really well, but the battle in the last episode left me wanting more. They need to up their game with the visual effects, when they start introducing things like The Wild Hunt into the story.

So yeah, really solid first season, and I was not bothered with the changes they made compared to the books. They made this thing their own!

The music though, 10/10! :metal

Is it to early to start fan casting future roles? :biggrin: Mark Hamill for Vesemir and Peter Capaldi for Regis?? :hefdaddy
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 27, 2019, 11:30:28 PM
I've always thought Liam Neeson would make a good Vesemir.
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Post by: Zantera on December 28, 2019, 02:42:38 AM
I know a popular choice for Vesemir is Mads Mikkelsen which might be doable since his brother is on the show but I think Mark Hamill would be a great choice too and I think he would do a great job.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on December 29, 2019, 07:42:42 AM
Finished it up. Having not read the comic or played the game......I thought it was a pretty cool show. However, had I not been tipped off to the time jumps it’d have been confusing as all get out.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 30, 2019, 02:28:03 PM
I was a bit annoyed at the ending scene when Cirilla finds Geralt. She runs in one direction and he walks into the forrest in another direction and then she just runs into his arms. I mean Witcher sense and all, that just felt rushed or maybe I missed something.
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Post by: lonestar on January 01, 2020, 09:48:03 PM
Just finished, good stuff, but I'm definitely gonna have to do a re-watch to really get a grip on the plot. I was lost half the show (mostly my fault since I was multitasking and this isn't a show to do that during)
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Post by: Polarbear on January 02, 2020, 12:12:07 AM
I read an interview where the showrunner said, that the reason for the non-linear time structure of the season was, that they wanted to introduce Ciri at the very beginning of the show along with Geralt and Yennefer. First two books are a collection of standalone short stories and most of them take place even before Ciri is born. So they had to find a way to tell those short stories and string them together, and find a way for Ciri to be a part of the show from the get go.

I think they did it very well, but I totally understand how people who have never read the books or even played the games could be hopelessly lost. :lol

The showrunner has also said that season 2 will have a much stronger drive to the story, and the timeline starts moving forward in a linear fashion. In other words, that means season 2 will be about Blood of Elves and possibly The Time of Contempt.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on January 02, 2020, 06:19:47 AM
I watched it over two days, and thought it was excellent. I'm aware of the books and the game series, but have never read them or played the games. I read online people grumbling about the casting of certain characters, but I've no previous investment, so it wasn't an issue for me.

Yeah, the time jumping was a bit strange at first, but fair play to the makers for going for the non-linear approach. I think if it continues in season 2 I'll be better prepared for it.

One of the things I liked most was the way that magical abilities were portrayed. Pretty cool without being silly or OTT. I know comparisons to GoT are inevitable, but for me, GoT is light on the fantasy elements, compared to something like this, so it's not really fair to compare the two.

It does give me hope that the upcoming Wheel Of Time series could be done well too.
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Post by: Tick on January 04, 2020, 08:19:46 AM
Without reading every last though I'm wondering if some with chime in with a grade for the show. Either in stars or A to F.
Thanks in advance! :tup
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 04, 2020, 08:59:42 AM
Without reading every last though I'm wondering if some with chime in with a grade for the show. Either in stars or A to F.
Thanks in advance! :tup
I would probably say something like 8/10, I was pleasently suprised by the show.
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Post by: Polarbear on January 04, 2020, 10:05:15 AM
Without reading every last though I'm wondering if some with chime in with a grade for the show. Either in stars or A to F.
Thanks in advance! :tup
I would probably say something like 8/10, I was pleasently suprised by the show.

Same for me! 8/10.

I have some small nitpicks, but overall a really solid start and it makes me excited for season 2!
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Post by: gmillerdrake on January 04, 2020, 10:35:34 AM
B+ To A-
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on January 04, 2020, 06:16:53 PM
Without reading every last though I'm wondering if some with chime in with a grade for the show. Either in stars or A to F.
Thanks in advance! :tup
I would probably say something like 8/10, I was pleasently suprised by the show.

Same for me! 8/10.

I have some small nitpicks, but overall a really solid start and it makes me excited for season 2!
This is about how I feel as well.
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Post by: MirrorMask on January 08, 2020, 01:17:48 AM
I started watching the same way I started watching Game of Thrones: not knowing anything about the lore and having never read the books (or played the games in this case).

So far, so good I'd say, I just watched an episode, obviously it's too early to even understand what's going on (Why the young princess had a grandma? the queen looked like her mother, age-wise) but it's a nice table setting.
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Post by: Polarbear on January 08, 2020, 07:01:26 AM
Here is a great chart for anyone still scratching their head about the timeline of the first season!

Spoilers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/netflixwitcher/comments/elqrw7/witcher_series_timeline/
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Post by: Logain Ablar on January 08, 2020, 08:47:26 AM
Here is a great chart for anyone still scratching their head about the timeline of the first season!

Spoilers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/netflixwitcher/comments/elqrw7/witcher_series_timeline/

That's great - thanks!
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Post by: LCArenas on January 10, 2020, 12:08:19 AM
Just finished it-I liked it a lot! Cavill did an amazing job playing Geralt and the action scenes were incredible. The storylines kept me interested consistently throughout the series, and all of the cast members really seem to have a lot of chemistry while on set. It's not without its faults, of course (SPOILERS: I  didn't like how they skipped several years between episodes in the Geralt-Yennefer storylines and yet human characters like Jaskier don't appear to age, and how they dismiss the major plot points that happened between those years as something they'd just address in just one line. The Geralt-Yennefer relationship really suffered from this. They had them meet each other, crammed their bonding moments up in one episode and a half, and then pretend they had loved each other for a long time. Probably the weakest part of the series) but Overall it was a great show to watch and one I'll be eagerly awaiting for next season. Most of the good things overcome the bad ones, and, being a GoT enthusiast too, I love how it doesn't try to be GoT at all and has its own atmosphere and setting. Overall a 7.5/10
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Post by: faizoff on January 10, 2020, 01:29:10 PM
Geez what a frickin map and timeline Netflix created for the show
https://www.witchernetflix.com/en-gb

It's full of spoilers so you'll have to have watched all of season one.

Regarding the show, I was a little disappointed by it. I would rate it maybe 6/10. I think all of the things were there to make it great but somehow the execution fell flat for me.

I wasn't that confused by the different timelines, I sort of live for complicated plots and twists on shows and movies so that wasn't an issue. I think they didn't make the characters very compelling, when some died I didn't really care or why there was danger for some, etc..

The sword fights were amazing, Henry Cavill was amazing as the lead. I thought his chemistry with the first episode actress was a lot better than Yennifer.

I'm hoping the 2nd season is more intriguing. I'll watch it when it's out and hope I like it more.
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Post by: Evermind on January 12, 2020, 09:32:02 AM
6/10 sounds about right, maybe even 5.5/10 for me. There was some good stuff, but... most of the rest just wasn't very good. And I'm not talking about timelines, those were confusing but I rather enjoyed how it all fell into place as more episodes went by. Although I'll say they could've aged Jaskier a bit more to show that 20 years went by between episodes 2 and 6; they had Yen mention that he has crow's feet now but that was it I think? Makes sense that Geralt and Yen had the same look as they don't age like normal folks.

So let me start with the good stuff (also I briefly played Witcher 3 and didn't read any books): episode 3 was amazing. If only the whole show was at that level, I would've praised it into oblivion. The fighting scene in episode 1 was also amazing, holy shit was that great to watch. The whole plot with Renfri was enjoyable too. The whole plot with Ciri and Calanthe refusing to give her up was also great, enjoyed watching Cintra fall because of how stubborn Calanthe and Eist were. The actress playing Ciri was very convincing too, good casting choice. Also I liked the actors who played the lead mages: Stregobor, Mousesack, Bork, Tissaia, all were on point.

For the bad stuff: episodes 2, 4 and 6 felt like they were from a second-rate fantasy sitcom, the only thing that was missing is the laugh track. The climactic scene with Pavetta in episode 4 was so bad I was torn between giggling and facepalming throughout the whole scene, just oof. Some plot points didn't make sense at all for me (big spoilers below). The doppler that got Mousesack said he acquired all his memories and experiences (and showed it to the audience saying how Mousesack though of taking his life so he can't be used), then he gets caught by Ciri because he didn't know the original Mousesack didn't like cold and had arthritis? Speaking of that, two children arrived at the forest of Brokilon scared out of their mind and the dryads made them drink the waters which kill folk who lie and bear ill intent, but when Mousesack arrives to take Ciri and yeah, Ciri said it's alright, so he doesn't need to drink the waters? Why introduce this plot point in the first place then? It didn't add anything except a plot hole. The scene which the whole first season led to, where Geralt meets Ciri? It's framed as if Geralt just walks into the forest to gather mushrooms or something and oh, there's Ciri! Happy reunion!

Also, the dialogue. I'm usually willing to make excuses for the unrealistic dialogue in fantasy shows but this show took it way too far. I can't count how many times during the show I thought "what the hell, people don't talk like that". I would've been alright with it if it was plot-relevant, but no, even the most standard dialogue mostly felt awkward as hell. I don't know. The show made me play the Witcher 3 again, and during the first three hours of the gameplay, the dialogue was better than it was in the show.

I will watch the second season, because there is a lot of potential in the show, and episode 3 shows it, but the execution is unfortunately lacking so far. There are some occasional sparks of brilliance, and I think Henry Cavill did a fantastic job and without him the show would've been even worse, but as of now this was an effort slightly above mediocre.

The "Toss a Coin to your Witcher" song and this recent Netflix map are dope af though.
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Post by: LCArenas on January 13, 2020, 06:15:13 PM
(big spoilers below). The doppler that got Mousesack said he acquired all his memories and experiences (and showed it to the audience saying how Mousesack though of taking his life so he can't be used), then he gets caught by Ciri because he didn't know the original Mousesack didn't like cold and had arthritis?
The Arthritis was a plothole, yes, but
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Post by: ariich on January 14, 2020, 01:05:47 AM
It's a plot hole in terms of it not being explained I guess, but yeah it's only the doppler (who was extremely arrogant) who claimed he had all of his victims memories and was infallible. I don't see any inconsistency there.
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Post by: Evermind on January 14, 2020, 08:08:49 AM
(big spoilers below). The doppler that got Mousesack said he acquired all his memories and experiences (and showed it to the audience saying how Mousesack though of taking his life so he can't be used), then he gets caught by Ciri because he didn't know the original Mousesack didn't like cold and had arthritis?
The Arthritis was a plothole, yes, but
  • AFAIK Dopplers obtain memories and experiences, but not feelings. The doppler knew everything Mousesack had been through, but he didn't know how he felt about it. He remembered Skellige, but he had no way to tell that the original Mousesack preferred Cintra over Skellige now.
  • The doppler is not a perfect spy, he seemed rather narcissistic, impulsive and impatient, not to mention he had to assume an identity and a body he didn't even want. If He was running out of patience and just wanted to get the work done, it would be fair to say he got tired of it all and blew his cover when got distracted. The fact that he turned on Cáhir and said 'fuck it' to his mission almost immediately after knowing who Ciri was might be a proof of this.

Where do you draw a line between experiences and thoughts/feelings though? He knew Mousesack thought of taking his own life but he didn't know Mousesack probably thought about his arthritis every day in Skellige?

If, as Rich says, he only claimed to know all the memories but in fact didn't, then it was indeed very poorly shown on screen and I'm actually not sure what's worse for me.

As to doppler's arrogance and impatience, to each his own. To me it felt like the writers just wanted to get Ciri out of the forest and also for her not to fall in Nilfgaardian's hands, so they created this - below mediocre, in my opinion - subplot. Unless that was in the books, that I'll stand corrected and blame Sapkowskij for that.
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Post by: ariich on January 14, 2020, 08:24:00 AM
If, as Rich says, he only claimed to know all the memories but in fact didn't, then it was indeed very poorly shown on screen and I'm actually not sure what's worse for me.
Not sure I agree with that, the whole season was written with a lot of subtlety (for example the points we made earlier in the thread about how they gradually revealed the different timelines initially with quite small references and even then not until the third episode). And just because one character might claim something, I've never taken that as definitely the case in any show I watch. If anything I'd argue that the whole narrative there is a good example of dopplers not being as powerful as they like to think they are.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on January 14, 2020, 08:30:01 AM
If, as Rich says, he only claimed to know all the memories but in fact didn't, then it was indeed very poorly shown on screen and I'm actually not sure what's worse for me.
Not sure I agree with that, the whole season was written with a lot of subtlety (for example the points we made earlier in the thread about how they gradually revealed the different timelines initially with quite small references and even then not until the third episode). And just because one character might claim something, I've never taken that as definitely the case in any show I watch. If anything I'd argue that the whole narrative there is a good example of dopplers not being as powerful as they like to think they are.

This and the point that was made earlier that the doppler first off.....didn't even want to do it or be him.....which lead to him getting impatient and just saying 'F' it. I would think had that been his idea and his motivation to become Mousesack then it'd have played out differently. He was in a hurry to get the job done and get back to his agenda.
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Post by: Evermind on January 14, 2020, 09:36:33 AM
I guess that makes a bit of sense to me, but I still think this is a big stretch. Arthritis? That's a pretty big thing to miss even if you're going fuck-this-job-I'm-out. I might've understood if it was something about Mousesack's connection to the Calanthe/Eist family (especially from his older years, maybe even drop a foreshadowing that doppler only acquires recent memories or the most powerful ones) or something more subtle? I'm not sure. For a season written with a lot of subtlety, there sure was a lot of not-so-subtle moments. The timelines did work for me as I said above, the doppler subplot I'm still not buying at all.

In fact now that you made me think about this, the whole Ciri plot after her escape from Cintra (and after her subsequent escape from Cintran refugees who were attacked by Nilfgaardians) felt underwhelming and forced to me. It's drawn out, it essentially went nowhere and only served as a purpose to get Ciri to Geralt.
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Post by: Polarbear on January 14, 2020, 11:12:56 AM
I'll say this without going to spoilers about the books, but as far as I remember, everything that happens to Ciri after she escapes Cahir but before she meets Geralt is different in the books. So any criticisms about that subplot must be thrown at Hissrich's direction and not Sapkowski's.

Ciri's subplot was one of the weakest aspects of season 1 IMO too. But assuming they stick to the story, she has so much awesome stuff coming, so I didn't mind her introduction in season 1.
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Post by: ariich on January 14, 2020, 01:46:03 PM
I'll say this without going to spoilers about the books, but as far as I remember, everything that happens to Ciri after she escapes Cahir but before she meets Geralt is different in the books. So any criticisms about that subplot must be thrown at Hissrich's direction and not Sapkowski's.

Ciri's subplot was one of the weakest aspects of season 1 IMO too. But assuming they stick to the story, she has so much awesome stuff coming, so I didn't mind her introduction in season 1.
It's not so much that it's different, it's more that it's not covered directly (same as all of Yennefer's stuff from season 1) because the short stories in the first two books (which season 1 covers) are only from Geralt's perspective. It's not until the main novels that Ciri and Yen become main characters in their own right. Same even with Cahir too, who I'm not sure is even mentioned by name in the first two books. So expanding and extrapolating Yen's and Ciri's experiences in more detail to make them main characters from the off makes a lot of sense to have a more coherent show overall once we get into future seasons.
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Post by: Polarbear on February 23, 2020, 08:47:00 AM
Small update in the world of The Witcher!

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/the-witcher-season-2-netflix-casting-1203510264/

Season 2 has begun filming and they have already cast a bunch of new characters! They have already cast Geralt's Witcher bros, with Paul Bullion and Thue Ersted Rasmussen as Lambert and Eskel respectively. Very familiar to those who have played the Witcher games. Among other people joining the cast are Yasen Atour as Cöen, Mecia Simpson as Francesca Findabair, Aisha Fabienne Ross as Lydia Bredevoort and "Game of Thrones" alum Kristofer Hivju as Nivellen.

No word still on who is being cast as Vesemir and Djikstra, both of whom are confirmed to appear. I'm betting that they are in the middle of negotiations with Mark Hamill to be cast as Vesemir! He has been rumored for a while now. But yes, quite exciting! :corn
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Post by: Polarbear on July 09, 2021, 02:05:52 PM
A massive bump after year and a half!

Thanks to Covid, a much delayed season 2 is coming on December 17th, and the first teaser trailer is here.

Looks great to me, and as a fan of the franchise I'm very excited!

https://youtu.be/AICKeUb0z0Q
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 09, 2021, 02:08:26 PM
Yes finally, can't wait! Really enjoyed S01.
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Post by: XJDenton on July 09, 2021, 04:22:12 PM
Yeeeeeessssssss.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2021, 09:12:28 PM
Not starring Henry Cavill, but this looks cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83o8_ZuKMik
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Post by: Polarbear on July 23, 2021, 01:49:18 PM
Not starring Henry Cavill, but this looks cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83o8_ZuKMik

Excited for that as well! Takes place a few hundred years before the events of the show, and focuses on Geralt's mentor Vesemir.
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Post by: Polarbear on August 09, 2021, 12:50:56 PM
Nightmare of the Wolf is coming to Netflix in 2 weeks, and here is another trailer!

https://youtu.be/J365hQpaWRw
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2021, 09:00:17 AM
New trailer for S2 (intermingled with a bit of S1 recap).  Season drops Dec 17th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSDKdjLlFxE&list=WL&index=2

Methinks I'll need to re-watch S1.
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Post by: Lonk on September 28, 2021, 07:37:25 AM
Looks good!, served as a reminder of S1 since I honestly forgot most of it.

There are a lot of good stuff coming out this fall  :corn
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Post by: Polarbear on September 28, 2021, 09:02:53 AM
Big fan of the books, games and show here!

I already have December 17th marked on my calendar. Netflix also already announced season 3! Reassuring considering Netflix's habit of canceling even popular shows, seemingly for no reason..
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2021, 07:16:52 PM
First sneak peak - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PSGrtPioRE&list=WL&index=1
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Post by: Polarbear on October 29, 2021, 11:59:51 PM
Season 2 main trailer!
https://youtu.be/TJFVV2L8GKs

Other than the poor choice of music, the trailer was great! :tup
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2021, 04:27:01 AM
Giggity!
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Post by: cramx3 on November 09, 2021, 03:10:36 PM
Finished watching the first season last week.  Recommendation of the GF and it was good, but I didn't love it.  I felt like it tried too hard to be confusing for the sake of being confusing.  My gf was there to explain things to me as we watched, but still I kind of felt like this was "too much" after just about every episode.  Granted, I did enjoy it so I will watch season 2, but I'm not entirely sure I'd recommend this to someone if they didn't have interest already. 
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Post by: Lonk on December 14, 2021, 05:05:20 PM
Waiting for the screening of Ep. 1  :corn
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Post by: Polarbear on December 17, 2021, 05:00:05 AM
Season 2 is live, and I watched the first couple of episodes!

Really enjoying it, though I feel some hardcore book readers will be pissed about some of the changes the show makes. I feel it is an improvement to S1 so far, going to watch the rest later.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2021, 06:38:12 AM
Season 2 is live, and I watched the first couple of episodes!

Really enjoying it, though I feel some hardcore book readers will be pissed about some of the changes the show makes. I feel it is an improvement to S1 so far, going to watch the rest later.

Still got 3 episodes of my S1 re-watch to hammer through.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on December 17, 2021, 08:20:36 AM
Still got 3 episodes of my S1 re-watch to hammer through.

Thought about the re-watch but I think I'm just going to find a detailed Youtube 'catch up / reminder' vid instead. Having had zero background on the Witcher when I watched the first season it was a bear to keep straight....and that was even after I was told about the non linear storytelling it was going to do. I enjoyed the season but I don't have that in me again.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2021, 09:16:38 AM
Still got 3 episodes of my S1 re-watch to hammer through.

Thought about the re-watch but I think I'm just going to find a detailed Youtube 'catch up / reminder' vid instead. Having had zero background on the Witcher when I watched the first season it was a bear to keep straight....and that was even after I was told about the non linear storytelling it was going to do. I enjoyed the season but I don't have that in me again.

Totally understandable.  I did see a 15-minute recap in my YT feed earlier this week.  I'd post it, but now that Spider-Man is out, I'm off of social media until Monday ... assuming I can even go see it Monday given new Omicrom restrictions are coming fast and furiously.
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Post by: Lonk on December 17, 2021, 09:34:13 AM
FWIW, there is the usual "previously on...." recap on the first episode, and I think the first episode does a good job and continuing the story exactly where it ended, making sure you don't feel lost.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on December 17, 2021, 11:28:30 AM
FWIW, there is the usual "previously on...." recap on the first episode, and I think the first episode does a good job and continuing the story exactly where it ended, making sure you don't feel lost.

That's good news! I also like the chatter about this season being a bit more straight forward as far as storytelling.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on December 21, 2021, 06:57:03 AM
So I knocked that out over the last two days. It was only (8) episodes so it didn't require much effort.  :lol  I will say that my initial thought was "is that it?"  Not in a bad way, I thought the direction of the season and the story was fine....and I won't use the term 'underwhelmed' to describe it but I was left with a bit of an unsatisfied feeling. It may have to do with while there is an 'end' to the season we're just in the very early stages of what looks to be a pretty large and complex overall story. So, this season felt like a ton of set up for that to me.

I didn't dislike it and loved how they added more meat to the bones of these characters.....that was well done. But I guess I wish there'd have been 10-12 episodes.....heck, maybe even 16 to really dive into this. It was over way too quickly.
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Post by: Polarbear on December 22, 2021, 02:24:39 AM
I completed it too, and I really liked it with some caveats.

There were A LOT of changes made for the show, compared to the "Blood of Elves" novel which this season was based. I can just picture the writers room reading Blood of Elves and thinking, "this is so boring, let's add some monsters and demons and stuff". :justjen

Blood of Elves novel is really all just setup, for what happens in "The Time of Contempt" and "Baptism By Fire". So it's really impressive that they managed to make an entertaining season with the material that was given to them. I'm expecting a more book accurate next season. Because if the plan is one book per season, then the next season will cover The Time of Contempt, and a lot more happens in that book compared to the Blood of Elves.

Hopefully we don't have to wait over 2 years for the next season.
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Post by: ZirconBlue on December 22, 2021, 09:08:30 AM
I completed it too, and I really liked it with some caveats.

There were A LOT of changes made for the show, compared to the "Blood of Elves" novel which this season was based. I can just picture the writers room reading Blood of Elves and thinking, "this is so boring, let's add some monsters and demons and stuff". :justjen

Blood of Elves novel is really all just setup, for what happens in "The Time of Contempt" and "Baptism By Fire". So it's really impressive that they managed to make an entertaining season with the material that was given to them. I'm expecting a more book accurate next season. Because if the plan is one book per season, then the next season will cover The Time of Contempt, and a lot more happens in that book compared to the Blood of Elves.

Hopefully we don't have to wait over 2 years for the next season.


They're supposed to start filming Season 3 early 2022, so, covid permitting, we should get the next one relatively soon.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on December 22, 2021, 09:22:18 AM
I completed it too, and I really liked it with some caveats.

There were A LOT of changes made for the show, compared to the "Blood of Elves" novel which this season was based. I can just picture the writers room reading Blood of Elves and thinking, "this is so boring, let's add some monsters and demons and stuff". :justjen

Blood of Elves novel is really all just setup, for what happens in "The Time of Contempt" and "Baptism By Fire". So it's really impressive that they managed to make an entertaining season with the material that was given to them. I'm expecting a more book accurate next season. Because if the plan is one book per season, then the next season will cover The Time of Contempt, and a lot more happens in that book compared to the Blood of Elves.

Hopefully we don't have to wait over 2 years for the next season.


They're supposed to start filming Season 3 early 2022, so, covid permitting, we should get the next one relatively soon.

I'd implore them to extend the season episode count......8 is entirely too few. This season was a blink of an eye.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2022, 06:08:01 AM
Finally finished S2.  Thought it was great.  I had no issue with the pacing, or the 'setting up' for future seasons.  There's a lot going on in this world, and a lot of factions want Ciri for different reasons.  Shame that 5 (maybe more) Witchers had to bite it in the finale.  The final reveal was fantastic.

I think I must bet getting used to serial shows only being 6-8 hours in length.  I don't mind it actually.  it's certainly a far cry from the days when a "season" was 20-24 episodes.
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Post by: MirrorMask on January 16, 2022, 05:41:08 AM
Saw season 2 as well, it was good I guess, some fight scenes were really cool and badass.

I didn't feel too lost even if I never read the books or played the games, it doesn't grab me as Game of Thrones did but it was fun ride anyway.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 17, 2022, 10:38:26 AM
Finished season 2 and thought it was mostly pretty good.  I definitely got more into the universe for season 2 than season 1.  My only gripe is the final episode seemed a bit too over the top.  I mostly didn't enjoy the last episode, other than the surprise at the end.  Definitely intrigued for the next seasons though because there was a lot of set up and new characters that will get their stories told. 
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Post by: MirrorMask on January 17, 2022, 12:27:20 PM
Oh, quick question - while I get that the potion witchers drink to turn "ghost like" is, dunno, an enhancer of abilities of whatever, was I supposed to get it because it was explained sometime during season 1, or it's never fully explained what that potion does? as I said, it's kinda obvious that it's something that enhances their powers I don't remember it being properly explained...
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 17, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
Don't know what it is in the books, but in the games, the potions will enhance certain things - health, speed, endurance, strength, vision, dealing damage, protection against damage/spells, yada yada
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Post by: Polarbear on January 17, 2022, 01:43:32 PM
Oh, quick question - while I get that the potion witchers drink to turn "ghost like" is, dunno, an enhancer of abilities of whatever, was I supposed to get it because it was explained sometime during season 1, or it's never fully explained what that potion does? as I said, it's kinda obvious that it's something that enhances their powers I don't remember it being properly explained...

Potions were never fully explained during season 1, and I think Vesemir quickly mentioned about them in S2. The books also didn't dive into them super deep, but the games expanded upon the idea quite a bit.

Basically Witchers are also master alchemists and they use different potions to enhance their abilities. Like potions to see in the dark, or enhance their stamina and so on. The show so far seems to streamline this concept, and they seem to have a overall badass potion that also allows them to see in the dark..
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Post by: cramx3 on January 17, 2022, 04:53:48 PM
Funny. I asked my gf, who played the games, about the potions and she made it seem obvious what they were which kind of is true, but also I kind of figured maybe I missed where it was actually explained. Making the Ciri potion seemed to hammer down that the Witchers make these but still didn't really explain the details which is OK but glad to know I'm not the only one who wasn't entirely sure what the deal was with them.
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Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on January 17, 2022, 06:57:43 PM
Funny. I asked my gf, who played the games, about the potions and she made it seem obvious what they were which kind of is true, but also I kind of figured maybe I missed where it was actually explained. Making the Ciri potion seemed to hammer down that the Witchers make these but still didn't really explain the details which is OK but glad to know I'm not the only one who wasn't entirely sure what the deal was with them.
And that potion that was made for Ciri is a very different thing from what the Witchers are typically drinking down. That potion is for the Trial of Grasses.

Another thing to point out about the potions, is their toxicity. A Witcher can't drink too many of them or too often or they can kill them. I don't think this has been explained in the show yet though.
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Post by: ZirconBlue on January 18, 2022, 09:04:28 AM
We ended up watching the anime movie (Nightmare of the Wolf) between the first 2 episodes of season 2.  That ended up being the perfect time to watch it, as stuff referenced in the movie appeared in episode 2.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2022, 12:45:57 PM
So Cavil is leaving The Witcher in S4. I can't imagine the series survives his exit. The young Hemsworth kid, Liam, is taking over the role. Curious as to 'why' Cavil is leaving. Is it due to the Superman rumors? It's also been rumored he could take on a Targaryn role in 'House of the Dragon' on HBO. No matter, I don't see how the show can survive that transition.



https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/the-witcher-liam-hemsworth-henry-cavill-leaving-season-4-1235417724/
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Post by: Zantera on October 30, 2022, 12:56:08 PM
Setting aside the fact that Liam Hemsworth has been pretty bad in the things I've seen him in - I just feel like recasting the main actor kills the interest for me. Even if they got someone better than Cavill - he's the one I've gotten used to as Geralt. Recasting such a major role just takes me out of it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2022, 01:40:40 PM
Setting aside the fact that Liam Hemsworth has been pretty bad in the things I've seen him in - I just feel like recasting the main actor kills the interest for me. Even if they got someone better than Cavill - he's the one I've gotten used to as Geralt. Recasting such a major role just takes me out of it.

Pretty much this.  For the Netflix series, Cavill *is* Geralt.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2022, 02:11:26 PM
Setting aside the fact that Liam Hemsworth has been pretty bad in the things I've seen him in - I just feel like recasting the main actor kills the interest for me. Even if they got someone better than Cavill - he's the one I've gotten used to as Geralt. Recasting such a major role just takes me out of it.

Pretty much this.  For the Netflix series, Cavill *is* Geralt.

Yep.

I’d be curious to hear how and why this all went down. By all accounts Cavil pursued this role relentlessly.
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Post by: cramx3 on October 30, 2022, 03:46:14 PM
Setting aside the fact that Liam Hemsworth has been pretty bad in the things I've seen him in - I just feel like recasting the main actor kills the interest for me. Even if they got someone better than Cavill - he's the one I've gotten used to as Geralt. Recasting such a major role just takes me out of it.

Pretty much this.  For the Netflix series, Cavill *is* Geralt.

Yup, no one seems to want to watch this without Cavill ugh.
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Post by: Grappler on October 30, 2022, 07:45:41 PM
Setting aside the fact that Liam Hemsworth has been pretty bad in the things I've seen him in - I just feel like recasting the main actor kills the interest for me. Even if they got someone better than Cavill - he's the one I've gotten used to as Geralt. Recasting such a major role just takes me out of it.

Pretty much this.  For the Netflix series, Cavill *is* Geralt.

Yep.

I’d be curious to hear how and why this all went down. By all accounts Cavil pursued this role relentlessly.

From some comments I've seen online, they're saying that it has to do with re-upping as Superman.  But one comment seemed to make a lot of sense to me.  They said he's leaving due to a disagreement with the writers on where they want to take the show.  He's such a fan of the books and games, and wasn't happy with their plans for Season 4.  So he walked away. 
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 30, 2022, 08:43:13 PM
From some comments I've seen online, they're saying that it has to do with re-upping as Superman.  But one comment seemed to make a lot of sense to me.  They said he's leaving due to a disagreement with the writers on where they want to take the show.  He's such a fan of the books and games, and wasn't happy with their plans for Season 4.  So he walked away.

They've referenced this before in interviews....that his knowledge of the books and games had actually been drawn upon and that he'd been vocal about a few things and how they were doing it....right and/or wrong.

It's just a total bummer because Netflix HAS to know the viewership is going to plummet with him leaving the show. Nothing against Hemsworth.....but as Chad pointed out and everyone who watches the show knows.....Cavil IS Geralt. It'll be a disaster trying to move on with that character being recast.
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Post by: Polarbear on October 31, 2022, 12:36:37 AM
Yeah, I think I'll be done with this show after season 3!

I think this could have something to do with creative differences between Cavill and the show runners. There was a report from a former writer of the show, that some of the writers disliked and mocked the source material written by Sapkowski. Cavill being a huge fan himself, decided to not renew his contract, and not be a part of something that he was not happy with.

This sucks balls! I was very excited for this show, because I too LOVE the book series and the games! I was pretty satisfied with seasons 1 and 2, despite pretty big changes they made. Killing Eskel in season 2 almost crossed the line for me.

And Liam Hemsworth of all people is supposed to replace him? That dude can't act even if his life depended upon it.

Well, at least the book series and the games are always there. There is even a remake of Witcher 1 in the works for XBSX and PS5.

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Post by: ErHaO on October 31, 2022, 04:22:56 AM
Yeah.... this is going to be a nope from me. I wasn't really feeling season 2 but one of the things I did absolutely love was Cavill as Geralt. It was one of those "this is absolutely perfect" castings, unlike a good chunk of the rest of the cast (in my opinion). I sincerely doubt this won't be a cancelflix case in the future. At least there are the books and the (to me) even better videogames.
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Post by: soupytwist on October 31, 2022, 08:38:48 AM
I hope this doesn't mean Cavill is going to be the next Bond.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on October 31, 2022, 08:44:37 AM
I hope this doesn't mean Cavill is going to be the next Bond.

That’s right. He’s been mentioned in that conversation as well. He’d been brought up for Aegon the Conqueror also in a GOT spin off.

Who knows. I bet it’s as simple as he’s truly upset at the direction the series is taking given how big a fan of it he is. I’m sure Netflix would accommodate his schedule knowing he basically is ‘the’ show.
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Post by: ErHaO on October 31, 2022, 09:28:04 AM
I hope this doesn't mean Cavill is going to be the next Bond.

I would be down for it, he was great in The Man From Uncle and I can see it work.
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Post by: Evermind on October 31, 2022, 11:49:55 AM
Henry was almost the only redeeming quality about Season 2. My friend (big fan of the Witcher universe) and I (only played Witcher 3 but want to read the books at some point) watched the show, both thought the writing was mediocre-ish and sometimes outright bad (except S2E1, that one was actually quite good, I thought), but there was no dispute Henry really did a fantastic job.

I wouldn't be surprised if they end up cancelling S4.

I think this could have something to do with creative differences between Cavill and the show runners. There was a report from a former writer of the show, that some of the writers disliked and mocked the source material written by Sapkowski. Cavill being a huge fan himself, decided to not renew his contract, and not be a part of something that he was not happy with.

There was an interview where they talk about Henry being so unhappy about the scene where Roach dies, he basically had to rewrite it. That, and as you said, one of the recent interviews stating there are people on the writing team who openly dislike and make fun of the books and the games... creative differences are where it's at, I think.
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Post by: Zantera on October 31, 2022, 12:15:04 PM
The scenario of having people who don't like the books or games being responsible for the tv-show just seems weird to me. Sure they might be talented at their jobs and have earned the chance, but if they don't like the material at all then it feels like nothing good will come from it. I think the opposite can be harmful as well and I think a franchise like Star Wars have suffered by maybe having people involved who are too big fans to really make those interesting choices, but I feel like you at least want people who have some middle ground. Maybe they don't love everything but they get the parts people like and maybe take a few artistic freedoms with the rest.
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Post by: ariich on November 01, 2022, 04:56:54 AM
I mean, the showrunner loves the books and if the production is being done right then she should have overall creative control, regardless of whether others on the writing team are fans or not. But even then, loving the books doesn't necessarily mean wanting the adaptation to be exact.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 01, 2022, 09:57:19 AM
The scenario of having people who don't like the books or games being responsible for the tv-show just seems weird to me.

Yeah, if the writers aren't into the source material, I think netflix needs to choose to keep their star actor and replace the writers, not the other way around. 
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Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on November 01, 2022, 10:54:50 AM
I don't think you need to be a fan of something to write it, but I do think there needs to be a certain level of respect for it. It kind of sounds like some of the writers thought the franchise was abject trash. :lol

I've only read three of the books, so I definitely don't have the full picture, but I personally thought they were... not all that great? I mean, they were fine, but we also have to remember that the books didn't actually take off until the games came out. I think that one potential issue with the show is that the books - at least the ones I've read - weren't actually that spectacular. Perhaps the bad writing staff and certain deviations were bigger problems, but I just feel like... Let's just say they weren't adapting Lord of the Rings here. :lol
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Post by: ZirconBlue on November 01, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
I don't think you need to be a fan of something to write it, but I do think there needs to be a certain level of respect for it. It kind of sounds like some of the writers thought the franchise was abject trash. :lol

I've only read three of the books, so I definitely don't have the full picture, but I personally thought they were... not all that great? I mean, they were fine, but we also have to remember that the books didn't actually take off until the games came out. I think that one potential issue with the show is that the books - at least the ones I've read - weren't actually that spectacular. Perhaps the bad writing staff and certain deviations were bigger problems, but I just feel like... Let's just say they weren't adapting Lord of the Rings here. :lol


I haven't read the books, yet, although I bought a set of them.  But, isn't there also the factor that they weren't originally written in English? 
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Post by: Orbert on November 01, 2022, 03:12:12 PM
Disappointing news about Cavill.  If Season 3 is any good, I'll probably at least check out Season 4 (assuming that it happens), but this is a huge blow.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2022, 06:56:09 AM
Fascinating

Quote
Set in an elven world 1200 years before the time of Geralt, Yennefer, and Ciri, The Witcher: Blood Origin will tell a tale lost to history: the creation of the first prototype Witcher, and the events that led to the pivotal Conjunction of the Spheres, when the worlds of monsters, men, and elves merged to become one. This four-part prequel series premieres on Netflix on December 25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry6HYg3AsHA

I'm down for this.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 04, 2022, 02:54:29 PM
Second trailer for Blood Origin.

Wait for it ….

https://youtu.be/6nhwT1vQS68
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Post by: Lonk on December 05, 2022, 06:02:01 AM
Looks cool, should be entertaining  :corn
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 26, 2023, 05:13:59 AM
S3 teaser, still starring Henry Cavill ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUlC8ue8NFI
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Post by: Lonk on June 14, 2023, 06:26:23 AM
Didn't realized they released the official trailer recently, and kind of forgot we were so close to the new season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzS8Ao0H6Co
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Post by: gmillerdrake on June 14, 2023, 07:05:47 AM
Tough to get excited about it knowing he’s leaving and the show will most likely take a nose dive
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Post by: Polarbear on June 14, 2023, 08:28:25 AM
Tough to get excited about it knowing he’s leaving and the show will most likely take a nose dive

Yeah.

It's a shame because the show did get some things right imo. They could have improved upon this, if they had taken the criticisms seriously. Cavill is now gone, and the writers and the showrunner are continuing to make huge changes to the source material they are given. This is supposed to adapt "The Time of Contempt" and there are only a few things in this trailer that ring familiar.

It's a shame, but The Witcher book series is still some of my favorite fantasy work of all time, despite being a bit campy at times.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on June 14, 2023, 09:33:02 AM
Tough to get excited about it knowing he’s leaving and the show will most likely take a nose dive

Yeah.

It's a shame because the show did get some things right imo. They could have improved upon this, if they had taken the criticisms seriously. Cavill is now gone, and the writers and the showrunner are continuing to make huge changes to the source material they are given. This is supposed to adapt "The Time of Contempt" and there are only a few things in this trailer that ring familiar.

It's a shame, but The Witcher book series is still some of my favorite fantasy work of all time, despite being a bit campy at times.

See.....I''m not familiar with any of the source material....I just liked the show so for me I can overlook the stuff you're talking about because I don't know any better. But, apparently NETFLIX didn't learn the lesson from 'Altered Carbon'. There are times when a re-cast can be pulled off.....Game of Thrones did it successfully a couple times....but, you can't recast a 'big name' character and actor and expect it to work. Especially the MAIN character. On top of that....this has been recast with a low grade C+ actor. It's going to be a trainwreck.
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Post by: XJDenton on June 14, 2023, 09:36:44 AM
I'm reserving judgement, but it does not inspire a large amount of hope for a good transition.
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Post by: chknptpie on June 14, 2023, 12:18:12 PM
I actually thought the Ciri plot was the worst in the source material. Give me the short story, monster of the week stuff and I think it would be great. Throw in touches of the love story and we're golden.
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Post by: cramx3 on June 14, 2023, 01:11:20 PM
Tough to get excited about it knowing he’s leaving and the show will most likely take a nose dive

Yeah.  I'm also not familiar with the source material, so that stuff doesn't bother me too much, but when the lead (who does know the source material) is not happy with the direction of the show, it makes me less inspired to even care about it. 

As for recasting, it worked in Spartacus when the lead died, but it was weird and obviously understandable.  I can't recall many examples of this happening though to a main character.
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Post by: Lonk on July 08, 2023, 07:45:52 PM
Caught the first episode of the new season. That was loaded, liked it a lot.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on July 08, 2023, 08:32:49 PM
I don’t think I’m going to watch this season. Knowing Cavil is gone after this really taints any interest I have in the show. No reason to invest the time. I may change my mind one day
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Post by: Podaar on July 09, 2023, 05:38:07 AM
You know the funny thing when we talk about Cavil and the source material? This season is spot on and he should have absolutely no complaints. IMO, this season is, by far, the best yet. Both Mrs. P and I have read the books, and after watching 5 episodes, we just look at each other and wonder what Henry's damage is. If he's truly a fan, what's his problem? Did he pull a Portnoy and say some shit about his current gig to justify running off to another gig (Superman) only to get rejected? I've got to really wonder now.
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Post by: cramx3 on July 10, 2023, 09:26:46 AM
I don’t think I’m going to watch this season. Knowing Cavil is gone after this really taints any interest I have in the show. No reason to invest the time. I may change my mind one day

I'm struggling to enjoy this season so far, 2 episodes in. I think a large part of it is just forgetting what happened before.  I probably need a better recap than what netflix provided.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on July 17, 2023, 10:52:03 AM
You know the funny thing when we talk about Cavil and the source material? This season is spot on and he should have absolutely no complaints. IMO, this season is, by far, the best yet. Both Mrs. P and I have read the books, and after watching 5 episodes, we just look at each other and wonder what Henry's damage is. If he's truly a fan, what's his problem? Did he pull a Portnoy and say some shit about his current gig to justify running off to another gig (Superman) only to get rejected? I've got to really wonder now.
Interesting. I have not watched this season but maybe I will at some point. In all honestly, I don't think I ever cared about changes to the source material. I just want a show with characters I love and a few epic moments sprinkled in. This show never really delivered that, at least for me personally. It's quite a strange situation as The Witcher 3 is one of my favorite things ever, but I also realize that game was made separate from the books and is very much its own sort of thing.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2023, 12:05:32 PM
Finished the first 5 episodes and things definitely got much better from my last comment.  Enjoyed it quite a bit.  Still, not sure about the future of the show but I'm looking forward to the second half of the season.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: nick_z on July 20, 2023, 06:21:02 PM
Yep, the last episode was pretty clever, with all the revisits of the various meetings/conversations, from various viewpoints...

Excited to watch the second half of S3.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: Lonk on July 28, 2023, 06:28:20 AM
Season came back already, and damn that was another strong episode. A lot happened.
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: jingle.boy on July 28, 2023, 07:50:56 AM
I liked the first 5 episodes … #5 was pretty innovative. Six was a bit odd, imo, and I was a tad disappointed in the finale (The Dark Knight Returns, anyone?).  Like TOX, I’m not familiar with the books - though I do have a few, and started to read one of them a couple years back, I didn’t stick with it. I’m unsure how they just switch from Cavill to Hemsworth given the ending?
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: nick_z on July 29, 2023, 12:52:19 PM
So, my wife and I watched the final 3 episodes (6-8) of Season 3...

Well, Ep.6 was obviously very eventful - lots of the fighting/intrigue the season was building up to finally happening. It sure was something. Yep, definitely seemed like a nod to The Dark Knight Rises there at the end  ;)

Without spoiling much - what the heck were they thinking with EP.7?? What a slog to get through. Whatever they set out to do with that one, it did NOT work for me. One of the worst episodes in the series so far. Period.

The last was back to more typical fare. Pretty good, maybe a bit anti-climatic, but we'll see how they transition.

Like it's been said before on the thread, I'm not sure how the series will survive Cavill leaving. I mean, he IS the Witcher  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Witcher (Netflix) Starring Henry Cavill.
Post by: ErHaO on July 29, 2023, 02:36:45 PM
I thought season 1 was entertaining and had some really strong points that kept me watching (basically Geralt and Jennifer), I thought season 2 was bad. I have little faith in Netflix finishing this storyline they made in a satisfying manner. Hell, Netflix has canceled and derailed so many properties that I will only check their limited series or films these days.

I will probably consider watching the rest if it eventually is finished decent enough and the switch to Hemsworth was done well. I would be surprised if they managed to do that (finish the series and if they do, do it well).

I don't care about book accuracy that much. Honestly I greatly prefer the writing in the videogame series.