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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: cramx3 on August 27, 2018, 03:33:59 AM
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College football is back this week :yarr
Seems most think another Clemson Alabama Title game is in the works. I guess that's pretty easy to see, but it's a long way till we get to final selection committee poll.
I'd say the biggest story right now is the whole Urban Meyer debacle at Ohio State.
I'm definitely looking forward to the PSU season, #10 seems about right for the pre-season rankings. Been great two years in a row and we return our senior quarterback. Some questions on D and at RB, but we are pretty stacked with new talent that should contribute and fill the holes. Seems the game with Ohio State after Urban is back from suspension might determine who plays likely Wisconsin again for the Big 10 championship.
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Wake me up when NCAA starts giving legit undefeated teams a chance to compete for a National Championship.
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I will be in Iceland this week when my Dawgs take on Auburn (actually through 9/17). It will be a huge game for the Huskies, as well as the entire Pac-12. The conference has experienced a bit of a talent drain the last 10 years or so. A win would bolster and renew some legitimacy, as well as set the tone for the season. But even a loss early may not be the end of our BCS aspirations if we can run the table from there. Regardless of the outcome the road to the Pac-12 championship cuts straight down Montlake Blvd in Seattle this year.
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True, a first weekend loss against a big time team won't ruin the season, but a win put you already into the drivers seat. Washington has been so good under Peterson, I would be rooting for them over the SEC.
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This is the best time to be a Husker fan in 20 years. Even with a BRUTAL schedule hope is high that Nebraska is back on a path to relevance thanks to Scott Frost. 7 wins would be amazing this year but even 6 would be respectful with games on road against Michigan, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Ohio St. and Iowa.
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It's the most wonderful time of the year.
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I will definitely be looking for a Husky win over Auburn. As for my beloved Golden Bears, they open up against North Carolina at home after a delicious breakfast provided by yours truly...
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Sounds like a great way to start a saturday
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Heading up to the stadium in a few hours for the first Ute game of the season. Too bad our guys are basically playing a high school team (Weber State). Even if they win big, it won't move the needle on being ranked outside the top 25.
Good luck to the Bears this year, lonestar!
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Heading up to the stadium in a few hours for the first Ute game of the season. Too bad our guys are basically playing a high school team (Weber State). Even if they win big, it won't move the needle on being ranked outside the top 25.
Good luck to the Bears this year, lonestar!
Opening day is always exciting. Opening night.... even better. Enjoy destroying that cupcake!
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Heading up to the stadium in a few hours for the first Ute game of the season. Too bad our guys are basically playing a high school team (Weber State). Even if they win big, it won't move the needle on being ranked outside the top 25.
Good luck to the Bears this year, lonestar!
Jealous! Have fun!
Go Utes!
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It should be fun, Snow Dog!
I don't know how closely you're able to follow the team, but we're all excited to see how the receiving corp stacks up this year with Covey back and the reported off season improvement of Huntley as a passer.
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It should be fun, Snow Dog!
I don't know how closely you're able to follow the team, but we're all excited to see how the receiving corp stacks up this year with Covey back and the reported off season improvement of Huntley as a passer.
What’s this down 10-7 to Weber State shit?
Never mind. Touchdown Utes.
Truthfully haven’t followed any offseason news for Utah. Good to know Covey will be back. And Huntley’s progression is good news. I liked how he looked last year, and I’m hoping he’ll be the best QB Utah has had since Brian Johnson (don’t get me started about Travis Wilson...)
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A dropped punt return. Really, Weber State was seriously out matched. Their offense couldn’t move the ball to save their lives. Utah kinda fell asleep in the first quarter but then quickly poured it on in the second. The game was never really in doubt but the Utes better get their shit together before conference play!
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Sounds like a normal first game beat down, struggle early to get warmed up and then just power through with the better players over a weak opponent. I'm guessing PSU will do similar today, but there's some P5 match ups today as well that should make the day interesting. Wondering if there will be an upsets though.
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Bears holding on nicely, up 17-0 at the half. Guess they enjoyed the omelets I made today ;)
As to upsets, go App St!!!
Focusing mostly on the UW-Auburn game, this one could be a burner for sure.
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Yikes app state giving me a heart attack
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Tie game, 42 seconds left. Someone check on Hef....
EDIT- ok, who had that one going into OT?
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Just told my gf that is not how I expected our afternoon to go :lol but happy
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I like 5 teams now: BSU, CCU, EMU, USF and Southern U. Southern U and USF got cool new unis this season.
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What a bummer of a weekend. The first Husker football game to ever be canceled due to weather happens to be Frost's debut as coach.
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That's so frustrating, are they able to reschedule it?
This weekend is going to be tough for PSU. Not sure what to think after last weekend. Their defense got destroyed in the 4th quarter, and I don't know exactly if it's because PSU has flaws (well, they do with a young defense, but just how bad are they?) or App State may be a really good mid major team this year (TV said they were ranked around 39th and should contend to win the Sun Belt) but going on the road at night to our in state rival Pitt will present some challenges for this team. The game will be going on while I'm at ProgPower during Alestorm's set so I won't be able to watch, which is going to nag me and make me constantly check my phone, but I am hoping for a win and some improvement, but I am not sure I'll get that or not.
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That's so frustrating, are they able to reschedule it?
Sounds like they are looking at various options. It was initially reported that they were going to play on Sunday but Akron declined. They are looking at playing on their bye week on 10/26 or may 12/1 assuming they don't make the Big 10 title game. I've heard rumors of playing Iowa St. on 12/1 since their game got canceled.
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This Freshman kid at Clemson is the real deal. Pretty amazing. Mobile and an arm. This kid has a bright future.
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my Badgers took it on the chin this weekend. very disappointing.
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my Badgers took it on the chin this weekend. very disappointing.
Big Ten took a big shit yesterday. Maryland, Rutgers, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Northwestern.... I'm actually glad Ohio State pulled out a win, save the conference some face this week.
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Boise State stunk. USF with a great comeback win. Coastal dominated.
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my Badgers took it on the chin this weekend. very disappointing.
Was quite surprised to see that result. I'm hoping that means that BYU is that good, and that means Cal is that good :gobears:
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my Badgers took it on the chin this weekend. very disappointing.
Big Ten took a big shit yesterday. Maryland, Rutgers, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Northwestern.... I'm actually glad Ohio State pulled out a win, save the conference some face this week.
Nebraska is playing with essentially a 4th string QB thanks to that dirty piece of shit from Colorado. Long ways to go under Frost but they could and should be 2-0 not 0-2. 18 point underdogs against Michigan this week.
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Big game in Happy Valley this weekend and college gameday will be there, I am super pumped to watch the annual PSU vs OSU game and lately the winner has been winning the Big 10. This year looks like it could be another great game with the winner controlling their destiny.
Having said that, PSU has scared me and wowed me at times this year. App State (I think may be a really good team) put them into OT and then Illinois had a 3rd quarter lead. The final score is not indicative of how that game really was. PSU can not play OSU like they played App and Illinois. They need a complete game which seems unlikely because our defense is very suspect. OSU also looks like their D isn't as good as usual and Bosa is likely out for this game. I'm thinking it will be a high scoring shoot out for the white out.
Also, Virginia Tech wow that was a really bad loss.
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...and then Illinois had a 3rd quarter lead. The final score is not indicative of how that game really was.
I was tired and went to bed during the 3rd quarter. Illinois was doing pretty well. Woke up Saturday morning and checked the final score while my kids were watching cartoons and just thought "WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?" :facepalm: I guess I made a good choice by going to bed instead of watching the 4th quarter.
I was happy to see them hanging in there with a highly ranked team and the final score doesn't disappoint me at all. Just a late-game collapse.
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Yea I was getting really worried and I looked away and next thing they were up by 2 scores which I totally missed. Then it just got out of control from there. That's the third time this season PSU had things close at half and then just destroyed in the 2nd. App State they actually had a lead they just blew in the 4th, but they just can't play like that against OSU. Things need to come together this week for the team to win.
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Starting to feel really worried about the OSU game tomorrow. It should be a good one and the white out is always fun to watch, but just so much on the line. An ESPN article stated this is the #1 game for playoff importance as the winner is in the drivers seat to make it and the loser will need a lot of help.
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Totally pulling for Penn St., anything to get Ohio a loss is a win in my books.
In other news, the best QB in the nation just began his decimation of the Cal secondary. Time to see if we can score with them...
:gobears:
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Another punch to the gut from OSU with a big lead. Ugh so frustrating. >:(
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Penn State's last play call was...........interesting?
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Penn State's last play call was...........interesting?
I didn't get it. Three time outs in a row, they were playing head games and got caught in their own I think, like there was no reason to not let McSorley make that final play, the run game wasn't working at all. Urban Meyer out coached James Franklin two years in a row.
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How 'bout those Washington Huskies? :metal :biggrin:
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How 'bout those Washington Huskies? :metal :biggrin:
What about them? I haven't seen them play.
- the national sports media and 99% of college football fans who don't live in WA.
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How 'bout those Washington Huskies? :metal :biggrin:
We'll see this Saturday.... :gobears:
Good to see Cal is still capable of giving the Beaver a good pounding. Even better to see Ohio State get knocked out of the playoff picture.
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BSU, CCU, USF, EMU and Southern. I'm 5-5 this week!
And those new black unis for USF! :o 7-0 too!
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Pretty surprising how good the SEC is this year even by their own standards.
#7 Georgia: 6-1, only loss was at #4 LSU.
#4 LSU: 7-1, only loss was at #9 Florida.
#9 Florida: 6-1, only loss was vs. #12 Kentucky.
#12 Kentucky: 6-1, only loss was at #16 Texas A&M.
#16 Texas A&M: 5-2, losses were vs. #2 Clemson by only two points and at #1 Alabama.
#1 Alabama: 8-0
So, except for a two-point loss to #2 Clemson, these six teams have won every possible game they could as a group since losses are inevitable in games played between two teams from this group. Their combined strength of loss is 39-5 (.886).
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SEC definitely looks like a beast this year. The Big 10 was way over rated to start the season.
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Yeah, and the PAC12 will continue to cannibalize each other so no one makes it to the playoffs. Still, makes for entertaining football. :lol
Saturday night was so much fun watching the Utes rip a hole in the Trojans! The most humiliating part for USC was Utah spotted them 14 points on bonehead turnovers and gift plays/penalties but then proceeded to run off 34 unanswered points. The score was nowhere near representative of how bad a beating the Trojans took.
Sublime.
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UCF to wear awesome space uniforms! :o Man I wish this was a full time theme!
https://ucfknights.exposure.co/a-familiar-flight
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UCF to wear awesome space uniforms! :o Man I wish this was a full time theme!
https://ucfknights.exposure.co/a-familiar-flight
An awesome alternate uni by our defending champions!
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I dig it
and I wouldn't be surprised if Iowa easily handles my Nittany LIons this weekend. I just don't feel good about this team at all.
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The U of U playing UCLA tonight. On paper, the Utes should clean up easily...why am I not confident? :|
(https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7469/441/320/goflash.gif)
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I wouldn't be either if I were you... They're on a serious upswing these days.
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Oh yeah baby, that was defense with a big ol' D.
Heyyyyy Tempus.... :gobears:
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:lol
I didnt get to watch anything since I was at a wedding but I like what I see in the scores. Tons of top 25 teams losing yesterday.
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Oh yeah baby, that was defense with a big ol' D.
Heyyyyy Tempus.... :gobears:
Holy shit! I had no idea lonestar. Congrats to you and your team, Mang!
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Gracias, twas a great win, and very encouraging as we head into a tough stretch of Wazoo, U$C, and Stanfurd.
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Good luck with Wazoo...that "Air Raid" offence is a lot for a defense to handle. If not for a penalty bringing back a punt return for a touch down, the Utes would have beat them at their place.
It is amazing how much parity there is in the PAC12 right now. Lowly Oregon State knocking off Colorado yesterday--even after being behind by 28 points in the 3rd quarter--really shows that good programs can't rest on their laurels for even a second.
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No they can't, and that parity is also why it'll be a long time or take a very special team to see the Pac 12 in the playoffs.
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I found this article pretty interesting.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/29/17795292/college-football-2018-strength-of-schedule-week-10-rankings (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/29/17795292/college-football-2018-strength-of-schedule-week-10-rankings)
Not too much differences according to this system over the AP and the Coaches polls, except for Notre Dame interesting gets pushed all the way down to 17th!
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I like it since it has PSU ranked much higher. They've been very favorable with computer and analytic polls I think because of the high scoring plus a decent schedule.
Either way, that schedule gets much tougher with Michigan on the road for the 4 out of 5 games in a row against ranked competition (going 2-1 against those ranked teams) and this one is looking like the hardest yet not just being on the road, but Michigan looks legit too.
Sucks I am going to miss the end of this likely as I'll be at the Haken/Leprous concert by the time it ends.
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I like it since it has PSU ranked much higher. They've been very favorable with computer and analytic polls I think because of the high scoring plus a decent schedule.
Also, it indicates that PSU has been only under-performing (assuming a top 5 team) by 2.4 points per game! That's damned close, my man.
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It's been heartbreak city for a few weeks for PSU. Almost looked like it again. These close games are just hard to watch.
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I've had the opposite experience with the Utes. For four weeks, I've been going into games wondering how they were going to screw the pooch this week, only to have them pretty much scoring at will against Standford, Arizona, USC and UCLA. You'd think that would have me pretty confident about Arizona State this weekend...but, no. I'm already biting my nails. :lol
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Hope your team feels the same way, I often think these young players after come wins to boost confidence get over confident and blow a game they were favored in.
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I've had the opposite experience with the Utes. For four weeks, I've been going into games wondering how they were going to screw the pooch this week, only to have them pretty much scoring at will against Standford, Arizona, USC and UCLA. You'd think that would have me pretty confident about Arizona State this weekend...but, no. I'm already biting my nails. :lol
I've felt the same way about them. The start of the season was unimpressive in what I saw, but now this offense has found a rhythm and identity in Zack Moss and the running game. They're in control of their own destiny in the South division, and every time they've been in that position the last few years, they done fucked it up. I hope this year is different, but fool me once...
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Snow Dog,
It's funny how much of a difference it made when they changed the offensive line assignments after the Washington game. Moss has some lanes to run through and with the addition of the option/pass plays, it's almost like watching a completely different team.
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I didn’t realize they switched things up there, but it makes sense, and good on Whittingham for making the adjustments. It’s been as you say a complete turnaround for the offense. They’ve been tearing it up since they rolled Stanford.
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Can't believe Maryland is keeping Durkin. Would love to see the players boycott the rest of the season.
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Can't believe Maryland is keeping Durkin. Would love to see the players boycott the rest of the season.
I don't see why any kid would want to play there.
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well now he has been fired
I just couldn't see how a parent could send their child to play for him when someone dies like that.
I also have some beef with Durkin who really lead his program to some dirtiness with PSU. Maryland is close in proximity to PSU and they kind of latched onto forming a regional rivalry once joining the Big 10 but they weren't really respectable about it (this trend was started by Randy Edsall). Not shaking hands, running dirty plays, bragging over the top when they actually beat PSU for once. Just seemed like a dirty team lead by a dirty coach. Good riddance. I have no issue with UMD, great school and my second choice actually behind PSU when I was looking at colleges. But man did I not really enjoy the way the coach lead his team to treat PSU. PSU is 38-2 all time against them. Now Mark D'Antoni at MSU has been very similar with his disrespect to PSU, but they are at least a solid team that competes and has owned us lately and hasn't gone to such low levels as UMD.
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UCF's space uniforms are STUNNING! On now on ESPN.
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Damn...that was a tough fucking loss. Mad props to Cal for giving #8 everything and them some. Wazoo is very lucky to be leaving that stadium with a W.
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I have no comment on my teams performance :censored
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I have no comment on my teams performance :censored
the Wisconsin/Penn St. game went from preseason must see to a non event.
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I have no comment on my teams performance :censored
Ditto.
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I have no comment on my teams performance :censored
the Wisconsin/Penn St. game went from preseason must see to a non event.
Yea seriously. So disappointing for both teams this season and the loser of this one is really going to be unhappy this season. I'm glad this one is home for psu
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And the California Golden Bears come back to defeat USC in LA. 13 years is a long time to lose to the team you hate more than any other.
More than the Yankees. More than the Rams. More than the Dodgers. Even more than fucking Stanfurd.
God I fucking hate USC. Go Bears!!!!
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Congratulations, pal!
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Is there a team out there that can beat Bama in the playoffs?
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Is there a team out there that can beat Bama in the playoffs?
If Tua stays healthy, I think only Clemson can give them a game.
But the way the last few games have gone, I'm not sure he will stay healthy, so who knows?
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Bama's defense is unbelievably tough. I've watched the last two weeks in awe.
Oh, and congrats, Lonestar!!!
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Going to the PSU at Rutgers game this Saturday. Kind of not looking forward to it sadly. This PSU season has just been really upsetting the way it turned out and playing Rutgers is hardly something interesting to watch. I'm sure it will be fun, but my gf and I have been trying to figure out how to park and whatnot and it's just feeling like I'd rather watch this from my couch than the hassle of going. THe bright side is I guess I can expect a healthy dose of PSU fans there and should be an easy win.
I think a Rutgers grad wrote this article for US Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2018/11/13/penn-state-football-james-franklin-5-reasons-worst/1986050002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2018/11/13/penn-state-football-james-franklin-5-reasons-worst/1986050002/)
He's not really wrong, but damn he is harsh on a coach that has really done a great job at PSU. Rutgers really does have an inferiority complex with PSU which is funny but if Rutgers somehow wins on Saturday I may be too ashamed to show my face publicly again :lol
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Going to the PSU at Rutgers game this Saturday. Kind of not looking forward to it sadly. This PSU season has just been really upsetting the way it turned out and playing Rutgers is hardly something interesting to watch. I'm sure it will be fun, but my gf and I have been trying to figure out how to park and whatnot and it's just feeling like I'd rather watch this from my couch than the hassle of going. THe bright side is I guess I can expect a healthy dose of PSU fans there and should be an easy win.
I think a Rutgers grad wrote this article for US Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2018/11/13/penn-state-football-james-franklin-5-reasons-worst/1986050002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2018/11/13/penn-state-football-james-franklin-5-reasons-worst/1986050002/)
He's not really wrong, but damn he is harsh on a coach that has really done a great job at PSU. Rutgers really does have an inferiority complex with PSU which is funny but if Rutgers somehow wins on Saturday I may be too ashamed to show my face publicly again :lol
Rutgers is one of, if not the worst, teams in the country. Kansas destroyed them I believe. PSU lost a lot when your Offense Coordinator left. The offense has lost it's spark this year.
Been a hell of a year as a Husker fan but holy hell that offense is amazing. Nebraska was down but has chance to win out, and should have won the majority of the games we lost. Amazing what crating a culture of accountability and lifting weights does to a team. Nebraska will be a top tier Big 10 team in another year.
In regards to who can beat Alabama, I think Clemson or (I hate to say this) Michigan are playing well enough to beat Alabama. Michigan's defense is legit.
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It helps Nebraska to be in the Big 10 West, that division is a joke this year, but Nebraska really has the ability to own it if they can become close to what they used to be. The coach is good, he just needs time.
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The Cal v. Stanfurd game has been postponed due to smoke from the Camp Fire.
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I could write an expose about growing up with the Bo-Woody rivalry, the various changes throughout the years, moving from Michigan but still reliving those memories before the annual meeting. There have been few competitive games the past 15 years, and my 'fan anticipation' rarely was felt, and viewing the games was mostly sitting back and watching. But this year was going to be different. I knew Ohio State would score more than a few, but if MSU could hold them in check then the Wolverines would, and with mistakes held to a minimum, today the 'snide' would end at least for one year.
From the Buckeyes opening drive, I realized their speed wasn't going to be contained. There was an exciting six second span, and then....same old same old. Hard to call something 'The Game' when the results are haven't changed for so long.
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Yeah, Buckeyes kinda laid the smack down today, possibly playing themselves back into the playoff picture as well.
In other news, despite opening up the game with back to back pick sixes, and being spotted a 21 point lead 6 minutes into the game, Cal still managed to almost snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Man is our offense fucking anemic.
Oh well, we're secured a bowl bid and a possible 8 win season if we can take down Stanfurd next week.
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Down to four undefeated teams. This week's rankings should be simple right?? Nah, they'll screw it up, again.
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Snow Dog,
Ya shoulda been there, buddy! :lol BYU sucks! :lol
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PSU played their best game yesterday all season. Sucks it took them 12 games to find that chemistry on offense. Now it's just watch and wait. At #12 they are on the bubble for a NY6 bowl game which would be great for the team to make. I think they'd lose to whoever they played but that would be the best game to end the year. However the way some things went, and may go next week, they could be on the outside looking in. So I am not rooting for the underdogs in the championship games next week.
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I would imagine that the top 3 in the CFP rankings tomorrow would continue to be Alabama, Clemson, and Notre Dame (and deservedly so).
I would further imagine that the next 3 would be (in whatever order) Georgia, Oklahoma, and Ohio State.
If that is so, then I would further imagine that number 7 would be Central Florida.
Anybody think any differently?
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Sounds about right....pulling for Oklahoma personally, mainly because I'm very against two teams from the same conference being in it (SEC) and because fuck Ohio St.
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Yea those rankings sound right and I'm thinking if Oklahoma beats Texas who is their only loss by a last second field goal then they'd be more deserving than any other one loss teams including if Bama loses to Georgia although I dont think theres anyway Bama doesnt end in the final 4 even with a loss. Ohio State doesn't belong and UCF just didnt beat anyone to prove they belong in the top 4.
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Sounds about right....pulling for Oklahoma personally, mainly because I'm very against two teams from the same conference being in it (SEC) and because fuck Ohio St.
I can get behind both of those statements.
Where I'm going is, if Oklahoma loses to Texas, and Ohio State loses to Northwestern, and Alabama murders Georgia, is there any way that the committee can keep UCF out of the playoff?
And no, I am not expecting all of that to happen. But it could.
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Add in Clemson losing to Pitt, and yea, I feel like UCF should get a shot then, but I still don't even know if it would happen but that would be one hell of a weekend if we got that scenario :lol
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Add in Clemson losing to Pitt, and yea, I feel like UCF should get a shot then, but I still don't even know if it would happen but that would be one hell of a weekend if we got that scenario :lol
Clemson losing to Pitt would be the biggest shock of them all.
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As deserving as they might be in that scenario, I still can't see any way the committee will let UCF crash the big boys table.
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I still say an eight team playoff is the only real answer. The conference champions from SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12 and the PAC 12 plus three at large teams such as the cream from the independents and other conferences. The Notre Dames, UCF's and runner-up of the SEC championships of any given season would have a shot at proving their worth on the field.
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I still say an eight team playoff is the only real answer. The conference champions from SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12 and the PAC 12 plus three at large teams such as the cream from the independents and other conferences. The Notre Dames, UCF's and runner-up of the SEC championships of any given season would have a shot at proving their worth on the field.
I agree wholeheartedly.
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The problem is that it makes too much sense
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The problem is that it makes too much sense
I actually can't figure out what the problem is.
Money is the big driver in these things, and an 8-team playoff would definitely bring in more money.
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The problem is that it makes too much sense
I actually can't figure out what the problem is.
Money is the big driver in these things, and an 8-team playoff would definitely bring in more money.
I think it has to do with the people who own the actual bowl games. There's a lot of money there. By going to 8 team playoff, it likely means the first round would be played on campus's and not the bowl games so it would make some of them either obsolete or just lower their prestige making them less money. Now, there's a lot of money to be made overall but I think those bowls are trying to hold onto their own value.
I've got to think the 4 team playoff has been a huge success over the BCS era. I'd think you'd see a similar jump going to 8 teams. There would be room for an underdog, having the first round at home would mean for some electric atmospheres (something the bowl games sometimes lack) and I got to think the TV money would be through the roof. Gives value to winning a conference (something the current system does not do) and gives a chance to those teams who do not, but are still damn good and deserving of a chance.
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I must say, I am disappointed in the committee ranking Michigan at # 6 ahead of UCF.
Hopefully that will be rectified in the final rankings, if UCF wins their conference title game in convincing fashion.
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I must say, I am disappointed in the committee ranking Michigan at # 6 ahead of UCF.
Hopefully that will be rectified in the final rankings, if UCF wins their conference title game in convincing fashion.
I'm not sure I see it though. Sometimes it's like the committee ranks your losses just as much as your wins. Michigan has two really "good losses" to ND and OSU both on the road. UCF's best win was Pitt, who is likely to end the season 7-6 and Michigan's best win is against top 15 team PSU. Also they lost their QB so I wonder if that really just ends any chance of them being ranked any higher.
Either way, I'm glad PSU stayed ahead of WSU. Since they have one more win, it seemed really possible they would be ahead of PSU, but it seems SOS might be the reason.
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Michigan's loss to Ohio State was not in any way a good loss. It's a loss to a good team. But they got their ass beat, in the most important game of their season.
Oklahoma's only loss is a good loss (by 3 points to rival Texas).
Central Florida has no good losses. Or any other losses.
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I think you misunderstood what I meant by "good loss" but losing to a top 10 team on the road is as good of a loss as you are going to get, but I know there's nothing good about getting smacked down by your rival with everything on the line.
Central Florida doesn't havea single worthy win though, so my point was Michigan's losses aren't any worse than UCF's wins in the eyes of the committee. Maybe had UCF gotten to play that game against UNC they would be a big closer, but 11-0 with no quality wins isn't the same as 10-2 with two losses to top 10 teams and a few quality wins.
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I love UNC, but I don't think that would have been considered a "quality" win :lol
Maybe in a year or two, after Mack Brown is back in the saddle again.
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TV, are you still hanging around this thread? How are you feeling, confidence wise, about your team for the Championship game tonight?
Myself, I'm really looking forward to seeing which Utah team shows up. Talent wise (especially on offence--too many injuries), the Utes don't match up well against U-Dub but have shown some heart this year. Of course, I want them to win but really, I'll be happy if they play hard throughout the game--win or lose.
Anyway, good luck, but not too much.
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Myself, I'm really looking forward to seeing which Utah team shows up. Talent wise (especially on offence--too many injuries), the Utes don't match up well against U-Dub but have shown some heart this year. Of course, I want them to win but really, I'll be happy if they play hard throughout the game--win or lose.
A friend asked me on Monday if I think Utah is going to win the Pac12 championship. The bolded part is exactly how I phrased my answer and that the result depended on it. If it's the Utah team that went into the half down 0-20 against BYU, they're going to get killed. If it's the Utah team that came back from that deficit to score 35 points the second half and held BYU to only 7 more, it should at least be competitive.
Bottom line is that they can NOT get buried early like they did last week or they will not be able to recover from it.
GO UTES!
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Not sure where I lie on that game...leaning towards the Utes though. Really hoping Cal can take down Stanfurd tomorrow, nobody thought we'd be in a position to finish the season 8-4 man.
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Utes got fucking hosed on that last non-call.
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TV, are you still hanging around this thread? How are you feeling, confidence wise, about your team for the Championship game tonight?
Another UW alum here ('99), though didn't play as he did. Posting after the game was over - forgot all about it honestly.
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Not sure the Pac 12 in general even deserved a champion, no one really stood out, that's for sure. Still a bit miffed the game ended on a bullshit moment though.
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I love defensive play, but man...that game was a bit anemic for the offenses! If it weren't for a fluke bounce to UW defense, the game would have ended 3 - 3! I was really concerned about the young guys at key positions for the Ute's offence and it turned out to be a valid concern. They simply couldn't make plays consistently against the Dawgs.
Anyway, the low points, poor turnout, and no dominating team from the PAC-12 made this a poor showcase for the conference. Future teams from the PAC-12 are going to need be really something special to get into the Playoffs.
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Couldn't help but get caught up in the SEC title game. Quite the Hollywood script writing the past thirteen months in regards to the roles (and role reversals) of the two Alabama QBs. And it's gotta be tough for the Georgia fans.
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Well it's settled, Bama vs Oklahoma and Clemson vs ND
It was the right call, though I'm still bummed UCF wasn't even in the discussion. Hoping they take down whoever they're matched against to further build a case for a non big-5 conference team being in the playoffs. Or just expand the fucking thing to eight teams.
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Until they do an eight team playoff, no one will be satisfied.
Division 1-AA had it right with sixteen teams (now expanded), but for some reason ESPN doesn't care about it. Gosh, let's televise meaningless pro and college basketball instead.
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I think they got it right with the 4, but you are right, no one will be happy until 8 with conference champs. These conference champsionship games besides the SEC and Big12 were all uninteresting and fairly meaningless.
PSU plays Kentucky in the Citrus, must say I am not terribly interested in that one. Getting to 10 wins would be great though and this is a better opportunity for that than playing in a NY6 game. Now that I look actually, other than the playoff games, there's not a lot of interesting match ups. I'd love to see UCF beat up LSU though.
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and Urban Meyer is stepping away from college ball again. This is good for PSU, but I do not wish badly on his health which seems to be serious.
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I think the committee got it right with Oklahoma.
Also, I think they have a better chance against Alabama than most people are giving them.
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Until they do an eight team playoff, no one will be satisfied.
And then the #9 team will be up in arms saying they are left out and there needs to be more teams included.
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Until they do an eight team playoff, no one will be satisfied.
And then the #9 team will be up in arms saying they are left out and there needs to be more teams included.
Sure, but 8 would mean they can give automatic berths to conference champions. I think that would make people happy since there's a clearly defined goal to make it to the playoffs. the 4th best at large team will definitely bitch, but at least you can point to the conference champion as a good reason why that team doesn't deserve to be there. You're right, people will still want more and maybe 16 is truly the best option (not sure I agree, just saying that maybe there's good reason for 16 over 8), but that's not a realistic jump from here.
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I think if you do 8, you give 5 automatic bids to the Power 5 champs, and you can make a rule that says something like "the top ranked Group of 5 team gets an automatic bid if they are ranked in the top 8" or something. That way you get 2 or 3 at-large bids for the committee to award, and then they seed the teams and set the matchups.
That would have given us Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Washington as automatics, and presumably Notre Dame, Georgia, and Central Florida as your playoff teams this season. If we seed them by the way that the committee ranked them, we would have the following bracket.
1)Alabama
8)Washington
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Winners
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4)Oklahoma \
5)Georgia \
Championship
3)Notre Dame /
6)Ohio State /
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Winners
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2)Clemson
7)Central Florida
Play the first round games at the higher seeded teams home field. Once it's down to 4, play it out like the current format, with the various major bowl games rotating locations. That's gold.
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That's gold.
:tup :tup
Yea, really doesn't get much better than that. If you look at past years too, you'll find using this format would have come down to a really solid 8 team playoff that is hard to argue against. Sure Michigan or Florida might be bitching about being "the last one out" in this scenario, but does anyone actually think those two are deserving over Notre Dame/UCF/Georgia?
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I doubt it.
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I don't like it, makes way too much sense.
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"We can't let UCF in the playoff. They might get blown out!"
You mean like Notre Dame is right now.
System is ridiculous. Bring on the 8 team playoff outlined above and many other times here throughout the years.
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A great college football game is a sight to behold, but it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Two final four games today. First one is a blowout, the second one is 28-0 already early in the 2nd. This is why I rarely watch college ball.
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A great college football game is a sight to behold, but it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Two final four games today. First one is a blowout, the second one is 28-0 already early in the 2nd. This is why I rarely watch college ball.
Eh seems like OU is trying to make a game of it. As for ND, maybe they should reconsider their independent status so they can actually compete on level with the rest of the upper teir teams.
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Always good seeing Bama lose....but how long until people are just as sick of Clemson?
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Kind of surprising to see such a beat down, but yea, after that, I am done with the Bama vs. Clemson rivalry. It hadn't tired me until now as those games had all been exciting and they were the best and msot deserving teams of recent, but it would be nice to get some fresh match ups for next year although I'd say early predictions would pick these teams again.
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Always good seeing Bama lose....but how long until people are just as sick of Clemson?
Seeing as how Dabo doesn't come across as an asshole like Saban does, probably a little while yet.
Of course, the simple remedy for people sick of either team is for some other school to level up. I've been sick of Alabama for years, and now Clemson has leveled up. Those two schools are different than everyone else right now, so until someone else levels up, they will continue to be the prohibitive favorites for years to come.
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Yea, took Clemson a bit under Dabo to start recruiting well enough and now that its caught on and they recruit as well as anyone else, they are going to be very tough to beat.
I was really hoping PSU could push the next level, the recruiting has been up there with the best lately as well, but it's becoming clear our coach doesn't have the goods on game day. The better plays will win 9 or 10 games a year but you need a high caliber game day coach to take it to the next level and win championships. That's something Saban, Sweeny, Meyer all have. Not sure who else can compete but one of them is gone so I'm not sure if Ohio State will be able to compete at that level with their new coach.
I can see Georgia and LSU putting up a fight, but that's more SEC. I don't know about any other teams in the Big 10/Pac 12/ACC that can compete with those. Obviously you got Oklahoma and maybe a resurging Texas but I'm not sure those can compete with Clemson or Bama either.
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I think Oklahoma and Texas are close.
I would love to see a West Coast team step up.
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I think Oklahoma and Texas are close.
I would love to see a West Coast team step up.
Yeah, unfortunately USC is the only one with the recruiting base, but they can't seem to get their shit together and are probably a few years from it. Everyone else is a close but not close enough I'd say.