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Title: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 11, 2018, 10:10:49 AM
Hiyall.

So some of you may have noticed I posted a picture the other day.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg3uLVHWAAAj38c.jpg:large)

It contains a clue. This clue will lead you on a treasure hunt over the next few months. I hope you want to participate! I promise, the end result will be pretty rewarding.

How legit am I? Well, the image with James was not photoshopped. How's that for legit.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on July 11, 2018, 10:29:32 AM
I have been given word that this is legit.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: The Walrus on July 11, 2018, 10:30:51 AM
Show me a map, ye scallawag!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: w_marano on July 11, 2018, 10:59:56 AM
Let's go! Cool!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: AngelBack on July 11, 2018, 11:11:44 AM
Well, shiver me timbres!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 11, 2018, 11:13:02 AM
Well, shiver me timbres!

:eyebrows:  I'd love to.  Meet me out back after you get off work.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: AngelBack on July 11, 2018, 11:14:28 AM
Well, shiver me timbres!

:eyebrows:  I'd love to.  Meet me out back after you get off work.

#metooIhope :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 11, 2018, 11:15:26 AM
:rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2018, 11:46:10 AM
Is there just one winner for who solves this first?  Sounds cool.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 11, 2018, 11:49:22 AM
Ooo...now the fun begins.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 11, 2018, 12:01:55 PM
Is there just one winner for who solves this first?  Sounds cool.

Well, that depends on the person who solves it first, doesn't it. If he/she wants to share what he finds, it's his prerogative...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2018, 12:03:25 PM
Is there just one winner for who solves this first?  Sounds cool.

Well, that depends on the person who solves it first, doesn't it. If he/she wants to share what he finds, it's his prerogative...

Ah, wasn't sure if it was a community treasure hunt or meant for an individual to figure out on their own.  But I guess maybe it doesn't matter.  Makes me think it's some sort of media like a video from the studio or something.  Would be cool if we or someone here figured it out.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: commanderbob on July 11, 2018, 12:26:26 PM
Never mind.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 11, 2018, 01:00:06 PM
Quick note since it's not been mentioned - the URL is clearly a rot13 cipher - uggcf:// looks a lot like https://, which tipped me off.

uggcf://vf.tq/jbfrur becomes https://is.gd/wosehe if you put it through the cipher... which just links to Freddy Jacobi's twitter account!

https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi

He only has 13 followers (14 now, sup), so this is early days.

The URL on his Twitter account is https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/, which looks to be a renovations company (but is probably a spoof - not least because the area it covers is "Albany / Utica" which is a steamed hams reference!)

There's a phone number - "Contact us for a free estimate! (518) 519-0756." Anyone with a US phone fancy giving them a ring (and possibly accidentally getting your kitchen renovated)?

Other thoughts: Numbers in the URL are also suspicious (84552723) but if you turn them into letters you get hdeebgbc which is clearly nonsense and doesn't look like it's going to rot13 either. Vail is a funny name for a renovations company too (funny spelling anyway!) but not sure if there's anything in it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 11, 2018, 01:11:01 PM
I called the number, I didn't take notes but it said "the password you seek is the name of the person who did the most Dream Theater album covers, and the year that Dream Theater reached their highest position on the billboard charts"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on July 11, 2018, 01:14:56 PM
Hugh Syme (5 albums), 2009 (BC&SL at Number 6).  Password for what though?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 11, 2018, 01:16:51 PM
I just tried to log into Freddy's account with that password and it didn't work  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 11, 2018, 01:17:51 PM
Oh and I think the voicemail said "last name" now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 11, 2018, 01:19:42 PM

Other thoughts: Numbers in the URL are also suspicious (84552723) but if you turn them into letters you get hdeebgbc which is clearly nonsense and doesn't look like it's going to rot13 either.

Maybe the album will have 8 songs (we have confirmed at least 8 songs, as says the flip chart pic) and each letter of "HDEEBGBC"might correspond to the key of each one of these songs. Considering that in old german/european music notation B can also be written as "H", the songs would be actually in the B-D-E-E-B-G-B-C keys.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 11, 2018, 01:21:13 PM
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OQgTXiOmPeEUT6U_TwRdW2g8Ye3Nq0lP

Worth a shot right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 11, 2018, 01:57:02 PM
I'm trying to run through anagrams for Vail Renovations but it's taking a while. Like Rob says, the spelling "Vail" is quite suspicious.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 11, 2018, 02:00:13 PM

Other thoughts: Numbers in the URL are also suspicious (84552723) but if you turn them into letters you get hdeebgbc which is clearly nonsense and doesn't look like it's going to rot13 either.

Maybe the album will have 8 songs (we have confirmed at least 8 songs, as says the flip chart pic) and each letter of "HDEEBGBC"might correspond to the key of each one of these songs. Considering that in old german/european music notation B can also be written as "H", the songs would be actually in the B-D-E-E-B-G-B-C keys.
Maybe - but I can't think why they wouldn't just say "B."

Trying a different tack, I'm thinking about numbers on phone keypads. So you've got...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Telephone-keypad2.svg/200px-Telephone-keypad2.svg.png)

8 - TUV
4 - GHI
5 - JKL
5 - JKL
2 - ABC
7 - PQRS
2 - ABC
3 - DEF

VILLARBD.
TILJARCE.
UHKKBSAD.

...Not getting anything out of that!

I'm trying to run through anagrams for Vail Renovations but it's taking a while. Like Rob says, the spelling "Vail" is quite suspicious.
I was thinking a similar thing - "renovate" suggests anagram, maybe, in a cryptic crossword kind of way. Maybe vail PLUS the numbers? Or - perhaps the numbers in the URL refer to the letters in Vail Renovations?

VAILRENO
84552723
OLRRANAI

...nope!

I think it's the kind of thing where, when we get it, it'll be really obvious that we've got it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 11, 2018, 02:08:41 PM
Update - Vail Renovations responded to my email!

Good news: they have given me a very reasonable quote for my bathroom.

Better news: "Thank you for your request. I'm sure you're excited for the future endeavours of a certain group. I will have more secrets to share soon! It will be a long road, and it will only be available to those with cunning intellect and patience! Can’t make it TOO easy for you, you have to earn your way into the information I have to give to you!

"Rest assured, in a few days time I will reach out to you again with a link to a secret webpage where you’ll find the first piece of the puzzle. But you can only enter if you have the password. Have you found the password yet?

"Please tell all your fellow fans about this little game I’m going to be playing with you in the coming weeks.

"Freddy Jacobi
Renovator and undercover studio spy!"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2018, 02:11:14 PM
That's awesome, you guys are good  :yarr
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 11, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
I was thinking that 84552723 looks like when you use a calculator upside down to spell words with numbers (e.g., 5318008 = BOOBIES).

If that's right, then 84552723 converts to EZLZSSHB....

Maybe???

By the way, Vail is a ski resort in Colorado, but I doubt that has anything to do with anything.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 11, 2018, 02:15:29 PM
This is awesome. I don't know if the band or someone from the management came up with this but this is yet another nice way to engage fans and keep up the hype for the new album!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 11, 2018, 02:17:05 PM
I like your BOOBIES method, pg1067. It's very scientific and it has a great name.

New email from Freddy! Just contains his secret link -

https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/dream-theater-working-in-studio/

...and the password works!!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 11, 2018, 02:28:28 PM
I'm not going to copy and paste all the text from the secret website (cos I get too much joy out of typing in the password each time like a SUPER SPY) but this is our first clue:

(https://vailrenovations84552723.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/01_rcig4bi9avo7ocekednk.jpg?w=778)

It took me a few minutes to notice the T in the corner, which shows how great I'm not at picture clues.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 11, 2018, 02:29:09 PM
Hmm...Rob surfaces mysteriously after a long absence just as this mysterious Freddy Jacobi person also appears and starts dropping clues.  And Rob happens to be the first person to solve the first puzzle and get the game rolling, which may be viewed as sort of showing us how it's done.  The only logical conclusion is:  Rob is Freddy.  And Freddy is James LaBrie.  :omg:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: The Walrus on July 11, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
I'm already lost. Ya'll blow my mind.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: the keyboard wizard on July 11, 2018, 02:34:21 PM
It took me a few minutes to notice the T in the corner, which shows how great I'm not at picture clues.
There's "superstar" written on the Coke Zero can. Another clue?
Seriously, I'm loving that treasure hunt!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2018, 02:37:15 PM
Hmm...Rob surfaces mysteriously after a long absence just as this mysterious Freddy Jacobi person also appears and starts dropping clues.  And Rob happens to be the first person to solve the first puzzle and get the game rolling, which may be viewed as sort of showing us how it's done.  The only logical conclusion is:  Rob is Freddy.  And Freddy is James LaBrie.  :omg:

And just like the old Rob, I didn't understand a single word he said..
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 11, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
This. Is. Awesome.

Great fan engagement idea  :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DreamerTV on July 11, 2018, 02:42:49 PM
This is beyond awesome.
And that’s just the beginning.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 11, 2018, 02:50:33 PM
The other thing that stands out as a clue: Freddy signed the post "IHTHTB; Your obedient servant, Freddy Jacobi."

As far as I am aware, IHTHTB stands for nothing at all.

It doesn't appear on Urban Dictionary (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ihthtb&utm_source=search-action), or Abbrevations.com (https://www.abbreviations.com/IHTHTB), and it has no anagrams on The Word Finder.com.

If I rot13 it, it says "VUGUGO," which also means nothing.

Combining it with the T from the picture gets "TIHTHTB" which doesn't seem to mean anything, either. And if it's an abbreviation for a DT song it's a new one on me!



Hmm...Rob surfaces mysteriously after a long absence just as this mysterious Freddy Jacobi person also appears and starts dropping clues.  And Rob happens to be the first person to solve the first puzzle and get the game rolling, which may be viewed as sort of showing us how it's done.  The only logical conclusion is:  Rob is Freddy.  And Freddy is James LaBrie.  :omg:
If I were James LaBrie, why would I be wasting time on some puzzle when I could be out there hitting F#s and digging holes?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Cool Chris on July 11, 2018, 02:58:12 PM
This album will be sponsored by Nike, based on James' sweatshirt and the shoe of whoever is in the second picture.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 11, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
The other thing that stands out as a clue: Freddy signed the post "IHTHTB; Your obedient servant, Freddy Jacobi."

I Hate This Hunting Treasures Bullshit?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Evai on July 11, 2018, 02:59:41 PM
IHTHTB

I Happen To Have To Budokan
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 11, 2018, 03:05:51 PM
This is more fun that trying to figure out Angelyne's identity.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 11, 2018, 03:16:00 PM
BTW, the only anagram from Vail Renovations that I can get that even halfway makes sense is:

Savor Live Nation


At this point, I think it would be best to consider it a red herring.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 11, 2018, 03:26:58 PM
Sometimes things you see are not clues. Sometimes they are clues for puzzles you do not yet have all the pieces for. Sometimes things are hidden in plain sight. Sometimes they have not yet been released. Sometimes patience is a virtue.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 11, 2018, 03:49:27 PM
I like your BOOBIES method, pg1067. It's very scientific and it has a great name.

New email from Freddy! Just contains his secret link -

https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/dream-theater-working-in-studio/

...and the password works!!

Does the password only work once?  It should be "syme2009," right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SystematicThought on July 11, 2018, 03:50:42 PM
Syme2009

I think the capital S matters
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 11, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
Syme2009

I think the capital S matters

It does.  Thanks.  I tried it in all caps and all lower-case.  Not sure why it didn't occur to me to capitalize only the "S".


The other thing that stands out as a clue: Freddy signed the post "IHTHTB; Your obedient servant, Freddy Jacobi."

As I'm looking at it now, it says, "IHTB," not "IHTHTB."


BTW, I agree this is a REALLY cool thing!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ErHaO on July 11, 2018, 04:54:34 PM
I am extremely bad at this type of stuff, but I will follow this thread because these things often tend to be fun rides  :tup And, hell, maybe I'll notice/think of something.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Indiscipline on July 11, 2018, 05:13:21 PM
I Hope To Hear The Bass?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 11, 2018, 05:31:42 PM
I Hope To Hear The Bass?
Win!  :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 11, 2018, 06:25:38 PM
Freddy posted on Twitter:  "So I caught John Myung looking at reddit..."  I can't access the picture other than on my phone, but it's a pic from behind of JM looking at a computer.  I can't really see anything notable about the picture (other than JM doesn't seem to be holding a bass).

A second post from around the same time says, "CD longish prefer."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on July 11, 2018, 07:22:12 PM
So Dream Theater just posted this picture to their FB. With the caption hidden by design. Something looks intentionally blurred behind JP.

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/37061187_10155410731407181_708089370938179584_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=2e48fdcf9e919ee6709264eeeace60db&oe=5BE0304F)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 11, 2018, 07:33:57 PM
I wonder how far have these guys went projecting all the puzzles and riddles... They just keep on trowing these tidbits and it's been really a few days since they finished writing the songs!! Do they (or YOU, including Mr. Freddy Jacobi) have enough to keep us satisfied?

NEVER ENOUGH
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Aefenwelg on July 11, 2018, 08:03:38 PM
Freddy's got a reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/freddyjacobi

Not much there except this little blurb:

So you found my little corner here too? Well, I'm not gonna make it easy for you. OpfxuWtlass

That last bit is not any kind of rotation cipher.

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2018, 08:11:46 PM
Obviously the reddit that JM was looking at.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on July 11, 2018, 08:16:25 PM
Obviously the reddit that JM was looking at.
JM was looking at the r/Dreamtheater reddit page.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2018, 08:17:26 PM
Oh, OK. It didn't specify in the above post.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Aefenwelg on July 11, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
You can see another tab that is the FreddyJacobi user page, though.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on July 11, 2018, 08:24:41 PM
I was looking for a word typed in the url or search bar but completely missed that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ReaperKK on July 11, 2018, 08:29:54 PM
Well this is turning out to be an interesting thread. I suck at things like this but I'm enjoying reading the thread.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2018, 08:30:32 PM
You can see another tab that is the FreddyJacobi user page, though.

Where's the pic?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on July 11, 2018, 08:34:19 PM
@FreddyJacobi is his Twitter and where the clues are being posted.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 11, 2018, 09:14:56 PM
This thread is amazing! NEED. MORE. CLUES.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 11, 2018, 11:42:32 PM
The other thing that stands out as a clue: Freddy signed the post "IHTHTB; Your obedient servant, Freddy Jacobi."

As far as I am aware, IHTHTB stands for nothing at all.

It doesn't appear on Urban Dictionary (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ihthtb&utm_source=search-action), or Abbrevations.com (https://www.abbreviations.com/IHTHTB), and it has no anagrams on The Word Finder.com.

If I rot13 it, it says "VUGUGO," which also means nothing.

Combining it with the T from the picture gets "TIHTHTB" which doesn't seem to mean anything, either. And if it's an abbreviation for a DT song it's a new one on me!



Hmm...Rob surfaces mysteriously after a long absence just as this mysterious Freddy Jacobi person also appears and starts dropping clues.  And Rob happens to be the first person to solve the first puzzle and get the game rolling, which may be viewed as sort of showing us how it's done.  The only logical conclusion is:  Rob is Freddy.  And Freddy is James LaBrie.  :omg:
If I were James LaBrie, why would I be wasting time on some puzzle when I could be out there hitting F#s and digging holes?

Are you absolutely sure your message said "IHTHTB"???   cuz mine said:

IHTB; Your obedient servant,

Freddy Jacobi

Mine is missing two letters  TH. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 12, 2018, 01:04:07 AM
This thread is amazing! NEED. MORE. NUGGETS.

Fixd
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 12, 2018, 01:11:57 AM
The other thing that stands out as a clue: Freddy signed the post "IHTHTB; Your obedient servant, Freddy Jacobi."

As far as I am aware, IHTHTB stands for nothing at all.

It doesn't appear on Urban Dictionary (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ihthtb&utm_source=search-action), or Abbrevations.com (https://www.abbreviations.com/IHTHTB), and it has no anagrams on The Word Finder.com.

If I rot13 it, it says "VUGUGO," which also means nothing.

Combining it with the T from the picture gets "TIHTHTB" which doesn't seem to mean anything, either. And if it's an abbreviation for a DT song it's a new one on me!



Hmm...Rob surfaces mysteriously after a long absence just as this mysterious Freddy Jacobi person also appears and starts dropping clues.  And Rob happens to be the first person to solve the first puzzle and get the game rolling, which may be viewed as sort of showing us how it's done.  The only logical conclusion is:  Rob is Freddy.  And Freddy is James LaBrie.  :omg:
If I were James LaBrie, why would I be wasting time on some puzzle when I could be out there hitting F#s and digging holes?

Are you absolutely sure your message said "IHTHTB"???   cuz mine said:

IHTB; Your obedient servant,

Freddy Jacobi

Mine is missing two letters  TH.
It 100% said IHTHTB at the time I saw it, yes; I was typing it into different things (anagram, abbreviation finders, etc) and had to keep checking back against it. I do regret not taking a screenshot now though!

Interesting that the letters that have gone missing are the first letters of the phrase Treasure Hunt. But coincidences are interesting, too, so that may well be nothing.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 12, 2018, 07:30:02 AM
One little funny thing is that Freddy Jacobi first posted the pic of James, and someone elaborated on that, but then nothing came out of it.... and so he had to make this post to say it out loud "hey guys, this is a treasure hunt, do pay attention c'mon!"  :lol

Kinda like when MP and JR placed the infamous Morse code in In the Name of God, and no one realized, and he had to mention it in the Budokan commentary  :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 12, 2018, 08:17:18 AM
One little funny thing is that Freddy Jacobi first posted the pic of James, and someone elaborated on that, but then nothing came out of it.... and so he had to make this post to say it out loud "hey guys, this is a treasure hunt, do pay attention c'mon!"  :lol

Kinda like when MP and JR placed the infamous Morse code in In the Name of God, and no one realized, and he had to mention it in the Budokan commentary  :D

Yeah lol.... I think maybe 10 years ago someone would have picked up. These days the fans are a little bit more reserved about stuff.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 12, 2018, 08:46:18 AM
I wonder how far have these guys went projecting all the puzzles and riddles... They just keep on trowing these tidbits and it's been really a few days since they finished writing the songs!! Do they (or YOU, including Mr. Freddy Jacobi) have enough to keep us satisfied?

NEVER ENOUGH

I can assure you that Freddy Jacobi has more than enough material to keep any reasonable fan satisfied.  Patience.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on July 12, 2018, 09:56:14 AM
After the signature, it says "I really enjoy Gronsfeld Ciphers"

I've heard of ciphers, but not Gronsfeld . . .
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 12, 2018, 10:08:45 AM
I'm looking into Gronsfeld now, apparently you combine a string of letters with a string of numbers and the numbers move the letters along. (So string FFFFF with code 54321 would produce ABCDE... I think!)

I feel like the numbers in the URL (84552723) look like they could be a decryption key - any ideas of gibberish to run through it? IHTHTB doesn't produce anything (nor would I expect it to now that a TH has disappeared) and it doesn't really make any sense for the string to be shorter than the number, but maybe if I add the "CD" from twitter?

ETA: I just checked the website and couldn't see the Gronsfeld bit under the signature. Invisible text! Good catch!

I wonder if IHTHTB / IHTB is something really simple that's been put through a cipher already, then we need to reverse-engineer the cipher from the signature. Maybe too complicated??

ETA2: Basically with a Gronsfeld cipher each letter has to be within 9 letters of the word. The only word you can make out of IHTB is EAST, which doesn't feel like a lead. IHTHTB can produce EAREST, which is one letter away from DEAREST... but doesn't feel like a lead either.

Maybe the code is TIHTB - with the T in the top right corner of the picture?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on July 12, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
Dream Theater just posted the original picture of James that Freddy posted, to their Facebook.
"Have you seen, the game is afoot!"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Mladen on July 12, 2018, 10:25:23 AM
I'm having trouble following any of this. Lets just say I'm lazy.  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 12, 2018, 10:28:02 AM
I'm looking into Gronsfeld now, apparently you combine a string of letters with a string of numbers and the numbers move the letters along. (So string FFFFF with code 54321 would produce ABCDE... I think!)

I feel like the numbers in the URL (84552723) look like they could be a decryption key - any ideas of gibberish to run through it? IHTHTB doesn't produce anything (nor would I expect it to now that a TH has disappeared) and it doesn't really make any sense for the string to be shorter than the number, but maybe if I add the "CD" from twitter?

If that's the decryption key then:

     IHTHTB = ADOCRU
     IHTB = ADOW

:dunno:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 10:28:29 AM
Solved it.

Decrypt OpfxuWtlass with the key 84552723

We come up with GLASSPRISON
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 12, 2018, 10:30:21 AM
That works, but where did you get "OpfxuWtlass"  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 10:32:07 AM
That works, but where did you get "OpfxuWtlass"  :lol

From the reddit account :p
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 10:37:29 AM
So now with GLASSPRISON...what's next?  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 12, 2018, 10:45:14 AM
Solved it.

Decrypt OpfxuWtlass with the key 84552723

We come up with GLASSPRISON
amazing work!!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 12, 2018, 11:02:04 AM
While we're looking for places to put our GlassPrison - CD Longish Favourite sounds like a riddle.

The Killing Hand is a Charlie Dominici longish favourite. It'd be a bit of a vague answer though so probably isn't right
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 11:05:23 AM
I think Glass Prison is what CD Longish Prefer refers to a favorite from the long CD.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 12, 2018, 11:07:03 AM
CD longish prefer is an anagram for gronsfeld cipher
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 11:11:12 AM
CD longish prefer is an anagram for gronsfeld cipher

Well...patience is a virtue I guess?  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 12, 2018, 11:13:16 AM
The speculation in this thread must be a real crack-up for Freddy!  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on July 12, 2018, 11:20:01 AM
So now with GLASSPRISON...what's next?  :lol

Would that be the password for the next website?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 12, 2018, 11:23:17 AM
There'll be a point where we'll decode things before Jacobi post them here  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
Found Jacobi on Google Plus

https://plus.google.com/117217273889605433199
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 12, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
The speculation in this thread must be a real crack-up for Freddy!  :lol
I know right? I feel like I’ve got an encouraging but weary parent.

As far as I’m aware we’ve got...

Solved mysteries

Unresolved

Anything I’ve missed? I feel like we should be keeping track of these somewhere. Also, has anyone tried calling the number again - maybe the message has changed?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 12, 2018, 11:30:23 AM
Found Jacobi on Google Plus

https://plus.google.com/117217273889605433199
Good catch! I bet he’s got a Facebook too.

Also - Google Plus still exists! Who knew?

ETA: He does not have a Facebook. Unless he is German and has packed in the renovations business.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on July 12, 2018, 11:45:10 AM
Anything I’ve missed? I feel like we should be keeping track of these somewhere. Also, has anyone tried calling the number again - maybe the message has changed?

There's the hidden by design picture that's still unresolved as well.  Loving this whole treasure hunt  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 11:47:55 AM
Hidden By Design would be an amazing album title.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Salies on July 12, 2018, 11:50:28 AM
Anything I’ve missed? I feel like we should be keeping track of these somewhere. Also, has anyone tried calling the number again - maybe the message has changed?

Hyrul from the Reddit/Discord created a GDoc to keep track of the most important advancements, though only some guys can edit it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s

By the way, we should make sure that we're collaborating to obtain better results, this is, let's make sure that we're all looking at the Reddit, Discord, Forums, any DT community in fact, so we can unite for better and faster advancements. This way we can prevent losing time on discovering something that someone else, elsewhere, already did.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: T-ski on July 12, 2018, 11:56:20 AM
I feel like a Goonie.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 12, 2018, 12:04:19 PM
Hyrul from the Reddit/Discord created a GDoc to keep track of the most important advancements, though only some guys can edit it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s


This is really great and a good idea.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Salies on July 12, 2018, 12:54:47 PM
Is anybody here an WordPress user? I wanted to know if WP automatically creates a random name for images or if it uses the original name of the file. That's because some guys at the Discord were thinking that, maybe, 01_rcig4bi9avo7ocekednk (the filename of JP's pedal image) is a somehow a hint.

I'm also trying to look for encryption patterns in 01_rcig4bi9avo7ocekednk. Like, Base64 has the ==, so maybe 01_ is something. That's not likely to be true, though, since Jacobi gave us the name of the encrypt method he used. Decrypting 01_rcig4bi9avo7ocekednk with Gronsfeld gives us nothing, btw, at least not with the 84552723 key (it actually outputs JYDBZBYSGKXZIXBKC, but that doesn't seem to mean anyting).

EDIT: Other images in the website are name with "logical" names, like https://vailrenovations84552723.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/demo.jpg, so maybe 01_rcig4bi9avo7ocekednk indeed means something. And before anybody points out that in this image there's a paper on the window, yeah I've seen it, but that img seems to come from a stock, so it probably means nothing.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on July 12, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
Not that it's really relevant to the puzzle.

But if Vail Renovations is a real company, Freddy could be the one who may have done renovation work in the past on the studio they're in now and his trusted friend is the owner of the studio, who's onsite providing the clues.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: theanalogkid7 on July 12, 2018, 01:19:22 PM
Do we think the writing on the big yellow pad that JLB is pointing at means anything?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DreamerTV on July 12, 2018, 01:27:03 PM
Do we think the writing on the big yellow pad that JLB is pointing at means anything?

I’m almost sure it does.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 12, 2018, 01:36:01 PM
Anything I’ve missed? I feel like we should be keeping track of these somewhere. Also, has anyone tried calling the number again - maybe the message has changed?

There's the hidden by design picture that's still unresolved as well.

Is that really part of it (since it was posted on the DT FB account)?  It seems like everything else has come from one of Freddy's social media accounts, as opposed to an "official" DT source.

By the way, I wonder if there is something to the name itself:  "Freddy Jacobi."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on July 12, 2018, 01:44:33 PM

Is that really part of it (since it was posted on the DT FB account)?  It seems like everything else has come from one of Freddy's social media accounts, as opposed to an "official" DT source.

By the way, I wonder if there is something to the name itself:  "Freddy Jacobi."

DT made the connection earlier today by posting to their FB the picture that Freddy posted first of James next to the sheet of paper, and saying a game was afoot.

I wonder about his name too.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 12, 2018, 01:47:50 PM
How do you know it isn't his real name?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on July 12, 2018, 02:00:04 PM
I was never good at solving riddles, but I’m amazed that you guys can. I’m enjoying the results!

Hidden By Design would make an awesome title!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ddtonfire on July 12, 2018, 02:02:51 PM
How do you know it isn't his real name?

Well, Jacobi is an incredibly famous mathematician, so he could have derived it from that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 12, 2018, 02:06:54 PM
How do you know it isn't his real name?

Well, Jacobi is an incredibly famous mathematician, so he could have derived it from that.

I'm not implying that it is or isn't his name (I know the answer because I know who he is).  I'm just asking the question.  Why would one assume that that isn't his (or...her?) actual name?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on July 12, 2018, 02:08:40 PM
I'm loving this game and this geeky athmosphere here! You are good!  :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ddtonfire on July 12, 2018, 02:08:58 PM
Dammit Bosk!

So we can assume Freddy Jacobi and Pupp Socket may also be ciphers or clues themselves.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 12, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
You can assume anything you like.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ddtonfire on July 12, 2018, 02:26:28 PM
Quote
And even more importantly; you have to make new friends.

I wonder if we have to add people on social media?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on July 12, 2018, 02:28:38 PM
Dammit Bosk!

So we can assume Freddy Jacobi and Pupp Socket may also be ciphers or clues themselves.

I think Pupp Socket = Sock Puppet (refers to the profile pic)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 12, 2018, 03:03:04 PM
As far as I know, no one else has done this yet, so I sent the Freddy Jacobi Reddit account a PM with the subject "GLASSPRISON".
Dunno if that's what we're supposed to do next, but it's something, right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Salies on July 12, 2018, 03:10:09 PM
Sinister Rectus from the Discord found out that some of the text in the first message might be related to Hamilton, the Broadway show. “Your Obedient Servant” is one of that album’s tracks, and that can be found at the end of the first post, along with “IHTB”. Previously, the message contained “IHTHTB” instead of “IHTB”, and that seems to be an abbreviation of “I Have The Honor To Be”, exactly as seen in the song:
 
“I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant
A dot Burr”

So now we know what IHTB means - I think it could be "I'm Honored To Be", as "I Have The Honor To Be" in a shorter form.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Cool Chris on July 12, 2018, 03:12:24 PM
If that presumes we have social media accounts, that rules me out  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 12, 2018, 03:18:14 PM
If that presumes we have social media accounts, that rules me out  :lol
Given the description on the site that contained the first puzzle piece picture, that kind of describes the whole idea, I think this is going to span a lot of things. If you don't have social media, I imagine there'll probably be a few puzzles out of the 16 total you won't be able to be part of solving every part of, but I get the sense this is supposed to be all-inclusive, if you're brave enough. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 12, 2018, 03:30:40 PM
Sinister Rectus from the Discord found out that some of the text in the first message might be related to Hamilton, the Broadway show. “Your Obedient Servant” is one of that album’s tracks, and that can be found at the end of the first post, along with “IHTB”. Previously, the message contained “IHTHTB” instead of “IHTB”, and that seems to be an abbreviation of “I Have The Honor To Be”, exactly as seen in the song:
 
“I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant
A dot Burr”

So now we know what IHTB means - I think it could be "I'm Honored To Be", as "I Have The Honor To Be" in a shorter form.

Wow! You guys crack me up. I'm so slow at solving riddles that you will have solved this one before I even understand that it's JLB on the first pic... :biggrin:

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 12, 2018, 03:39:24 PM
My head hurts trying to follow everything posted here, but I’m glad some of DTF’s best minds are up to task :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 12, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
If that presumes we have social media accounts, that rules me out  :lol

Yeah, I'm not gonna create social media accounts just to participate. Knowing this place, someone will figure it out and we'll all rejoice in the goodies.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on July 12, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
If that presumes we have social media accounts, that rules me out  :lol


DTF IS my social media account!! :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2018, 07:25:50 PM
Sinister Rectus from the Discord found out that some of the text in the first message might be related to Hamilton, the Broadway show. “Your Obedient Servant” is one of that album’s tracks, and that can be found at the end of the first post, along with “IHTB”. Previously, the message contained “IHTHTB” instead of “IHTB”, and that seems to be an abbreviation of “I Have The Honor To Be”, exactly as seen in the song:
 
“I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant
A dot Burr”

So now we know what IHTB means - I think it could be "I'm Honored To Be", as "I Have The Honor To Be" in a shorter form.

confirmed, the Astonishing 2 is the next album
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 12, 2018, 08:22:55 PM
Uh oh!

By a show of hands, who feels like they just got caught peeking under the parents bed the week before Christmas?!

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: deadwinged on July 12, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
If so, I hope there isn't some white knight effort to suppress knowledge of "unintended" progress put into place.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Podaar on July 12, 2018, 08:49:11 PM
My armor is thoroughly blackened (soiled?), I assure you.

There are a few mods roaming around here that have been known to wear white.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 12, 2018, 09:50:58 PM
If so, I hope there isn't some white knight effort to suppress knowledge of "unintended" progress put into place.
To be fair, I think this is a pretty clear cheat, and I'm kind of disappointed that it's happened. The reason ARGs like this are fun is that we get to go along with the clues, try stuff out, and collectively struggle to solve the riddles and such; a bunch of people brute forcing their way through finding hidden pages and such completely ruins the fun of this for me, and I doubt I'm alone on this. :-\

So, call it what you like, but I am strongly against this "Peeking under the parents' bed", as Podaar put it. Any time the solution used for a problem is most accurately described as "Brute force" is completely missing the point of ARGs like this.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Salies on July 12, 2018, 10:04:39 PM
If so, I hope there isn't some white knight effort to suppress knowledge of "unintended" progress put into place.
To be fair, I think this is a pretty clear cheat, and I'm kind of disappointed that it's happened. The reason ARGs like this are fun is that we get to go along with the clues, try stuff out, and collectively struggle to solve the riddles and such; a bunch of people brute forcing their way through finding hidden pages and such completely ruins the fun of this for me, and I doubt I'm alone on this. :-\

So, call it what you like, but I am strongly against this "Peeking under the parents' bed", as Podaar put it. Any time the solution used for a problem is most accurately described as "Brute force" is completely missing the point of ARGs like this.

This is pretty pointless, really. They said we would need "computer skills", so there you go, we've got it. This was actually the first thing I thought about (indexing the pages, somehow) but I didn't have enough WordPress knowledge (this is, to know the attachment IDs and stuff) so I got nowhere.

And we didn't go anywhere, after all. We have the URLs but no keys, and some the links are not even active.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on July 12, 2018, 11:52:36 PM
Edit: I don't agree. I quoted wrong line
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 12:42:05 AM
I do not agree. I find this cheating despicable. Consider yourself punished. All progress is reset.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 13, 2018, 12:52:41 AM
Arrrggggghhhh!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 01:29:04 AM
Arrrggggghhhh!

Seconded. And there is a big difference between wanting to advance and wanting everything immediately. I love it when people make progress but I hate it when they brutally force their way through a riddle (and I'm a big riddle fan). Hope everything isn't ruined now.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SwedishGoose on July 13, 2018, 01:30:51 AM
Hope soo too.... as I just now found this....
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Hyrul on July 13, 2018, 01:42:35 AM
I do not agree. I find this cheating despicable. Consider yourself punished. All progress is reset.

This is a bad way to cope with the community having more computer skills than you. You could've just change what will happen in the next weeks...
anyway where do we start now ?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 13, 2018, 01:46:34 AM
I do not agree. I find this cheating despicable. Consider yourself punished. All progress is reset.

This is a bad way to cope with the community having more computer skills than you. You could've just change what will happen in the next weeks...
anyway where do we start now ?

Yes, but when you manage to unlock the whole puzzle at once, it's a different game altogether.

It's the journey, not the destination, that makes this treasure hunt special.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 01:49:16 AM
^ exactly.

Where do you start now? You start by deleting the progress you've made. All the puzzle pieces are now invalid. You brute forced your way into the images that were not to be given out yet, and as such, I cannot allow that to exist. So all of those images are now invalid.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Indiscipline on July 13, 2018, 01:51:42 AM
Better to save the mystery than surrender to the secret.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 13, 2018, 02:26:57 AM
Damn it. Because of how DTF developed my sleuthing skills, I think I stumbled upon Freddy Jacobi's secret.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 02:37:44 AM
Damn it. Because of how DTF developed my sleuthing skills, I think I stumbled upon Freddy Jacobi's secret.

Damn it as you say! For all we know, the initial riddle might have been fantastic and because of some guys with a hacker tendency, we are left with a void. Well, might as well go back to sleep now. No, just kidding, it's plain daylight here. I think I will go back and play another riddle.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 02:38:47 AM
Look, it's more fun if you guys try to solve the puzzles, not brute force your way into the solution. Unfortunately, wordpress had an unforeseen function where you could access pages and attachment even though they were not posted anywhere. So I have to use another deliverymethod. The puzzle pieces will change.

Here's where you stand now:

The first clue and solution is still valid. The image as part of that solution has changed.

The second clue is still valid. The password is still valid. The place to find the second solution is not.

That's all the adjustments I need.

The rest will be made available in due time.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 13, 2018, 02:47:00 AM
Well, now you know the DTF skills which allowed members here to find clues to impending album releases.  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 03:07:21 AM
Well, that was something I was aware of, and part of the reason why I thought you should try to solve this game. Unfortunately, technical limitations with the wordpress software ruined part of what I had planned :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 13, 2018, 03:49:54 AM
I'm well aware that chances for this are basically none, but I would love if you Freddy were actually a band member, with you revealing it with your last post once the treasure hunt is over, and departing from the forums to never post again  :D

"OMG John Myung was among us and we didn't know!!!!!"  :lol ('cause if a band member comes up with a treasure hunt, I'd totally picture John Myung doing it)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 03:58:20 AM
I mean... You've already seen a band member use reddit, with my user tab open. Just sayin'...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 04:01:36 AM
I mean... You've already seen a band member use reddit, with my user tab open. Just sayin'...

Oooooohhhhhh...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 04:08:06 AM
Although, would you rather have band members write music, or do a silly puzzle game on the internet? ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 13, 2018, 04:14:30 AM
Although, would you rather have band members write music, or do a silly puzzle game on the internet? ;)

Dream Theater can do both  :hat
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 13, 2018, 04:17:16 AM
Mr. Jacobi is not a band member.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 04:57:45 AM
I have decided to see through puzzle two to completion as it was planned. You might have seen an image already:

(https://i2.wp.com/vailrenovations84552723.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/gif-1.gif)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Hyrul on July 13, 2018, 05:58:31 AM
For all of you guys who wanna catch up with what we did, what we found, and have, I made a google doc file summing it all up. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/
I'm mainly on the DT Discord for now, which is linked in it. I'll try to make this Gdoc always as up to date as I can.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 13, 2018, 07:10:12 AM
I do not agree. I find this cheating despicable. Consider yourself punished. All progress is reset.

This is a bad way to cope with the community having more computer skills than you.

Not at all.  Basically hacking the puzzle was a poor way to engage in a game that was supposed to be fun for everyone.  Cheating and then whining when you got caught is pretty lame, honestly.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Hyrul on July 13, 2018, 07:11:38 AM
This could have been prevented. Can we move on to that sparrows thing ?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on July 13, 2018, 07:23:28 AM
Well, now you know the DTF skills which allowed members here to find clues to impending album releases.  :lol

Kind of true, the DT community is pretty hardcore about these things it seems, not that I support cheating, just saying.

Looks like you guys are able to save it still though so that's cool
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on July 13, 2018, 07:35:40 AM
So, if the DT logo is a potential clue, there are two possibilities I can think of:

Mary Queen of Scots (the logo is very similar to her symbol)
Dominici (There was a rumor for a while that the logo was made from superimposing all the letters from Dominici on top of each other)

Or it could mean nothing or something else entirely

Edit: Also it looks like the stuff at the top of the yellow pad is a form of graphic notation. The green symbols definitely look like repeat symbols and the lines look like they could be outlining the contour of motives in a riff.

X-1 seems like a reference to Cygnus X-1
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 13, 2018, 07:41:31 AM
I have no clue whats going on at this point, but keep updating this thread guys, it's cool to see play out.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on July 13, 2018, 07:43:19 AM
Ah I can't believe I missed all of this.

If I had been here back at page 1, as a Hamilton fan, I would've been able to tell y'all immediately what "IHTHTB Your Obedient Servant" meant so you wouldn't have wasted time trying to decipher it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on July 13, 2018, 07:51:43 AM
According to Google, there's a book called Mary, Queen of Scots by Walter Shaw Sparrow.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 08:40:49 AM
According to Google, there's a book called Mary, Queen of Scots by Walter Shaw Sparrow.

Good catch!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 13, 2018, 09:12:20 AM
Should've known DTF would solve this thing lickity split. You asked and people did it. I find that funny.

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 13, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Well, to be fair, nothing has been solved, they just got access to some source files before the time. Those source files meant nothing without the decryption key in the big picture, but it did mean that they didnt have to solve any of the following puzzles to get all the source files. So the easy solution: reset the source files to contain a new puzzle, and they're back to square one.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on July 13, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
I do not agree. I find this cheating despicable. Consider yourself punished. All progress is reset.

Not at all.  Basically hacking the puzzle was a poor way to engage in a game that was supposed to be fun for everyone.  Cheating and then whining when you got caught is pretty lame, honestly.

Hi. I'm a regular on the Dream Theater Discord server (I use a different name there, but activation of the account is taking longer than I expected). I think that this treasure hunt is a fantastic idea and I'm excited that it's brought many fans across the forums, reddit, Discord, etc together to collaborate. We've seen a surge in people joining Discord thanks to it.

I came here to say that we (Discord members and Dream Theater fans all around) would rather not go down in history as cheaters, hackers, or as having maliciously ruined the hunt. This was an accident where the community and "Freddy Jacobi" can share the blame. And we all can learn from this.

When the first level of this treasure hunt was brought to the Discord server, I immediately considered it to be similar to the "notpron" puzzle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notpron, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Notpron). In this puzzle, you have to solve riddles to advanced to the next web page. Many of the riddles involve checking the page source and/or modifying URLs to advance. This is exactly what happened here. An ambitious treasure hunter found and modified URLs without knowing that this was out the bounds. I tried to do it too, but I wasn't as successful. To us, this seemed to be a normal part of the hunt, especially since Mr. Jacobi said "This puzzle will rely on logical skills, computer skills, and social skills." In fact, the first thing I did to contribute to the hunt was check the page source to discover that a Gronsfeld Cipher is involved; the clue was hidden as #FFFFFF colored text. No one said that this was hacking or cheating.

The person who crawled the website to find the URLs may or may not respond here. Either way, they apologize for what happened and assure us that it was a misunderstanding.

The exposure of the URLs was an oversight on Jacobi's part, and the discovery of the URLs was a result of our having no knowledge of what "computer skills" were or were not out of bounds. Jacobi learned a lesson about WordPress sites. We learned a lesson about the boundries of the hunt. Don't shame anyone for what they did not understand. Don't call us cheaters. We are just as eager as anyone else to discover the treasure.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 13, 2018, 10:16:41 AM
Okay, fair enough.  Thanks for the explanation.   :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 13, 2018, 10:18:19 AM
Well, to be fair, nothing has been solved, they just got access to some source files before the time. Those source files meant nothing without the decryption key in the big picture, but it did mean that they didnt have to solve any of the following puzzles to get all the source files. So the easy solution: reset the source files to contain a new puzzle, and they're back to square one.

"It's time to pick up the pieces, go back to square one."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
I do not agree. I find this cheating despicable. Consider yourself punished. All progress is reset.

Not at all.  Basically hacking the puzzle was a poor way to engage in a game that was supposed to be fun for everyone.  Cheating and then whining when you got caught is pretty lame, honestly.

Hi. I'm a regular on the Dream Theater Discord server (I use a different name there, but activation of the account is taking longer than I expected). I think that this treasure hunt is a fantastic idea and I'm excited that it's brought many fans across the forums, reddit, Discord, etc together to collaborate. We've seen a surge in people joining Discord thanks to it.

I came here to say that we (Discord members and Dream Theater fans all around) would rather not go down in history as cheaters, hackers, or as having maliciously ruined the hunt. This was an accident where the community and "Freddy Jacobi" can share the blame. And we all can learn from this.

When the first level of this treasure hunt was brought to the Discord server, I immediately considered it to be similar to the "notpron" puzzle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notpron, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Notpron). In this puzzle, you have to solve riddles to advanced to the next web page. Many of the riddles involve checking the page source and/or modifying URLs to advance. This is exactly what happened here. An ambitious treasure hunter found and modified URLs without knowing that this was out the bounds. I tried to do it too, but I wasn't as successful. To us, this seemed to be a normal part of the hunt, especially since Mr. Jacobi said "This puzzle will rely on logical skills, computer skills, and social skills." In fact, the first thing I did to contribute to the hunt was check the page source to discover that a Gronsfeld Cipher is involved; the clue was hidden as #FFFFFF colored text. No one said that this was hacking or cheating.

The person who crawled the website to find the URLs may or may not respond here. Either way, they apologize for what happened and assure us that it was a musunderstanding.

The exposure of the URLs was an oversight on Jacobi's part, and the discovery of the URLs was a result of our having no knowledge of what "computer skills" were or were not out of bounds. Jacobi learned a lesson about WordPress sites. We learned a lesson about the boundries of the hunt. Don't shame anyone for what they did not understand. Don't call us cheaters. We are just as eager as anyone else to discover the treasure.

Thank you.

I've played notpron as well or zest for that matter and I know what you're talking about. So, I get where all of you guys are coming from. It's just that the revealing too early was a little upsetting and I can understand it might have been so for Freddy Jacobi as well. All in all, we all want the same thing : for the enigma to be solved. Just not too soon.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 13, 2018, 10:30:34 AM
The Majesty image that Jacobi posted is a GIF with two frames.

If you change the whitest hue in the colour palette to some other colour(I chose red) and look at the first frame, it exposes text written using one of the other colours in the palette that appears identical to the white background(Palette entry #250, assume you count starting from 0). The text says https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/ (https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/). It asks for a password. I tried using "GLASSPRISON", to no avail.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 10:35:26 AM
The Majesty image that Jacobi posted is a GIF with two frames.

If you change the whitest hue in the colour palette to some other colour(I chose red) and look at the first frame, it exposes text written using one of the other colours in the palette that appears identical to the white background(Palette entry #250, assume you count starting from 0). The text says https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/ (https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/). It asks for a password. I tried using "GLASSPRISON", to no avail.

Nice job! So, we're missing the password.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 13, 2018, 10:39:04 AM
Nice job! So, we're missing the password.
Looks like we aren't; I just had the capitalisation wrong. If you enter it as "GlassPrison", you get in. :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 13, 2018, 10:39:41 AM
The Majesty image that Jacobi posted is a GIF with two frames.

If you change the whitest hue in the colour palette to some other colour(I chose red) and look at the first frame, it exposes text written using one of the other colours in the palette that appears identical to the white background(Palette entry #250, assume you count starting from 0). The text says https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/ (https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/). It asks for a password. I tried using "GLASSPRISON", to no avail.

In that page it says PROTECTED: picture + words (at least that’s what I gather from the images posted there. So I assume the password has to do with a picture plus some word, maybe the letters in the other picture that was revealed
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 13, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
In that page it says PROTECTED: picture + words (at least that’s what I gather from the images posted there. So I assume the password has to do with a picture plus some word, maybe the letters in the other picture that was revealed
Haha. Look again, I just had the capitalisation wrong. Use "GlassPrison" and you get in.

For the record, the contents of the page are as follows:
Quote
So you have solved the second puzzle. Well done. Do you like ciphers as much as I do?

Well, anyways, here’s the next piece of the puzzle.

(https://i.imgur.com/2UdkaSd.jpg)

The next puzzle will surely stump you. Pay attention to my social media and look for the keyword “sparrows”.

I see a very tiny S on the drum cymbal in the corner. Do also note that the letter on the first image has changed too; it's a D now...

(https://i.imgur.com/REjxYhL.jpg)

Also note that the pictograms on the page with this image are a painting, a plus sign, and a speech bubble... Images And Words?
And the first page was called When Dream And Day Unite...
I wonder; if A Change Of Seasons is included, then we have a total of 14 DT studio releases so far, and one more on the way, so perhaps when we solve puzzle 15, we'll find out the name of the new album! :eek
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 13, 2018, 10:41:54 AM
The Majesty image that Jacobi posted is a GIF with two frames.

If you change the whitest hue in the colour palette to some other colour(I chose red) and look at the first frame, it exposes text written using one of the other colours in the palette that appears identical to the white background(Palette entry #250, assume you count starting from 0). The text says https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/ (https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/). It asks for a password. I tried using "GLASSPRISON", to no avail.

In that page it says PROTECTED: picture + words (at least that’s what I gather from the images posted there. So I assume the password has to do with a picture plus some word, maybe the letters in the other picture that was revealed

Never mind you already solved it
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Alpenglow on July 13, 2018, 10:47:16 AM
The Majesty image that Jacobi posted is a GIF with two frames.

If you change the whitest hue in the colour palette to some other colour(I chose red) and look at the first frame, it exposes text written using one of the other colours in the palette that appears identical to the white background(Palette entry #250, assume you count starting from 0). The text says https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/ (https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/look/). It asks for a password. I tried using "GLASSPRISON", to no avail.

In that page it says PROTECTED: picture + words (at least that’s what I gather from the images posted there. So I assume the password has to do with a picture plus some word, maybe the letters in the other picture that was revealed

Never mind you already solved it

Yeah and that's Images and Words. The first page was When Dream and Day Unite. They're probably taking the album names chronologically.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 13, 2018, 10:48:29 AM
In that page it says PROTECTED: picture + words (at least that’s what I gather from the images posted there. So I assume the password has to do with a picture plus some word, maybe the letters in the other picture that was revealed
Haha. Look again, I just had the capitalisation wrong. Use "GlassPrison" and you get in.

For the record, the contents of the page are as follows:
Quote
So you have solved the second puzzle. Well done. Do you like ciphers as much as I do?

Well, anyways, here’s the next piece of the puzzle.

(https://i.imgur.com/2UdkaSd.jpg)

The next puzzle will surely stump you. Pay attention to my social media and look for the keyword “sparrows”.

I see a very tiny S on the drum cymbal in the corner. Do also note that the letter on the first image has changed too; it's a D now...

(https://i.imgur.com/REjxYhL.jpg)

Also note that the pictograms on the page with this image are a painting, a plus sign, and a speech bubble... Images And Words?
And the first page was called When Dream And Day Unite...
I wonder; if A Change Of Seasons is included, then we have a total of 14 DT studio releases so far, and one more on the way, so perhaps when we solve puzzle 15, we'll find out the name of the new album! :eek

Even if it turns out you are wrong, that's some grade-A sleuthing right there.  :clap:


EDIT:  And just to clarify something from the get-go, me praising Robo or anyone else is not to say that I know that the answer is correct.  I DO know who Freddy Jacobi is, and I AM in on this whole thing.  But that being said, I don't know the answers to any of these and do not know where they are going, so I cannot tell any of you if you are right or wrong.  I haven't asked for any inside information, and I don't intend to.  And even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.   :P
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 13, 2018, 10:55:57 AM
Even if it turns out you are wrong, that's some grade-A sleuthing right there.  :clap:

EDIT:  And just to clarify something from the get-go, me praising Robo or anyone else is not to say that I know that the answer is correct.  I DO know who Freddy Jacobi is, and I AM in on this whole thing.  But that being said, I don't know the answers to any of these and do not know where they are going, so I cannot tell any of you if you are right or wrong.  I haven't asked for any inside information, and I don't intend to.  And even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.   :P
Haha. Thank you very much.

FWIW, I think the next thing we're supposed to be working on may be this image DT posted to their Twitter (https://twitter.com/dreamtheaternet/status/1017757622764744706) and Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheater/photos/a.487625947180.264700.7677942180/10155413811552181)...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh_Mvi-XUAAjz9f.jpg:large)

The comment that comes with both is as follows:
Quote
Here’s a production shot - just in - of a one-of-a-kind, collectible piece we’re having custom-made just for DT fans. Guess what it is? [thinking emoji]
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Polarbear on July 13, 2018, 10:57:27 AM
I'm way too dumb to solve any of this, but I have to say that this "Hunt" is an awesome idea! :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 12:41:36 PM
Robo, you're VERY clever! And I had seen the image with the plastic thingies. Don't know what to do with them yet.

B.Lee

Edit : when saving the pic with the cymbal, the name that comes up is "2UdkaSd". Don't know what to do with it. Yet, there are 2 caps : U and S. The first letter was D (as it was changed). If we add the S on the cymbal, we have 4 letters. USDS! But we all knew Derek Sherinian was a US resident?!? :biggrin: I really suck at riddles.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Hyrul on July 13, 2018, 03:30:42 PM
Edit : when saving the pic with the cymbal, the name that comes up is "2UdkaSd". Don't know what to do with it. Yet, there are 2 caps : U and S. The first letter was D (as it was changed). If we add the S on the cymbal, we have 4 letters. USDS! But we all knew Derek Sherinian was a US resident?!? :biggrin: I really suck at riddles.

B.Lee

The image name are generated by Imgur, which is where FJ now uploads them (instead of the website itself where you could bruteforce your way to)
So the names aren't any clues.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 13, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Edit : when saving the pic with the cymbal, the name that comes up is "2UdkaSd". Don't know what to do with it. Yet, there are 2 caps : U and S. The first letter was D (as it was changed). If we add the S on the cymbal, we have 4 letters. USDS! But we all knew Derek Sherinian was a US resident?!? :biggrin: I really suck at riddles.

B.Lee

The image name are generated by Imgur, which is where FJ now uploads them (instead of the website itself where you could bruteforce your way to)
So the names aren't any clues.

I said it, I suck at riddles. :biggrin: Thanks for the info anyway.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 13, 2018, 04:37:14 PM
I do not agree. I find this cheating despicable. Consider yourself punished. All progress is reset.

Not at all.  Basically hacking the puzzle was a poor way to engage in a game that was supposed to be fun for everyone.  Cheating and then whining when you got caught is pretty lame, honestly.

Hi. I'm a regular on the Dream Theater Discord server (I use a different name there, but activation of the account is taking longer than I expected). I think that this treasure hunt is a fantastic idea and I'm excited that it's brought many fans across the forums, reddit, Discord, etc together to collaborate. We've seen a surge in people joining Discord thanks to it.

I came here to say that we (Discord members and Dream Theater fans all around) would rather not go down in history as cheaters, hackers, or as having maliciously ruined the hunt. This was an accident where the community and "Freddy Jacobi" can share the blame. And we all can learn from this.

When the first level of this treasure hunt was brought to the Discord server, I immediately considered it to be similar to the "notpron" puzzle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notpron, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Notpron). In this puzzle, you have to solve riddles to advanced to the next web page. Many of the riddles involve checking the page source and/or modifying URLs to advance. This is exactly what happened here. An ambitious treasure hunter found and modified URLs without knowing that this was out the bounds. I tried to do it too, but I wasn't as successful. To us, this seemed to be a normal part of the hunt, especially since Mr. Jacobi said "This puzzle will rely on logical skills, computer skills, and social skills." In fact, the first thing I did to contribute to the hunt was check the page source to discover that a Gronsfeld Cipher is involved; the clue was hidden as #FFFFFF colored text. No one said that this was hacking or cheating.

The person who crawled the website to find the URLs may or may not respond here. Either way, they apologize for what happened and assure us that it was a misunderstanding.

The exposure of the URLs was an oversight on Jacobi's part, and the discovery of the URLs was a result of our having no knowledge of what "computer skills" were or were not out of bounds. Jacobi learned a lesson about WordPress sites. We learned a lesson about the boundries of the hunt. Don't shame anyone for what they did not understand. Don't call us cheaters. We are just as eager as anyone else to discover the treasure.

Thank you.

I'm a bit late to reply to this because my account needed to be activated, but I agree completely. It was I that found the images. It was an honest misunderstanding, and I am sorry. When I saw an image with one letter, and the hint that we needed to find the next URL, I assumed that we had to find more images hidden on the site to construct said URL. When I discovered the images sitting out in the open, that seemed to reinforce the idea that we were supposed to discover them, so I shared my findings. Now I understand that this was out of bounds, and it won't happen again. I apologize to Freddy Jacobi for making you redo the puzzles, and to everyone else for spoiling part of the surprise.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Schurftkut on July 13, 2018, 08:45:34 PM
did someone overlay the images with that formula one already?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 13, 2018, 08:49:45 PM
And here I thought this was a troll originally...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 13, 2018, 10:10:42 PM
So, are we assuming this whole hunt is going to lead us to the new album title and/or artwork? They haven’t recorded anything yet, so the chances are either that or song titles. Either way, just can’t wait to see what the end result is.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on July 13, 2018, 10:31:26 PM
Nothing’s even been recorded yet. I’d say it’s far too early for the titles/artwork to be revealed.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on July 14, 2018, 02:03:34 AM
So, are we assuming this whole hunt is going to lead us to the new album title and/or artwork? They haven’t recorded anything yet, so the chances are either that or song titles. Either way, just can’t wait to see what the end result is.

The first solution did say itd take a few months to complete the hunt....
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 14, 2018, 02:17:12 AM
Whatever the outcome of the treasure hunt, it promises to be one hell of a ride. I love what they decided to do for the wait this time around! :metal

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on July 14, 2018, 12:32:50 PM
I'm a bit late to reply to this because my account needed to be activated, but I agree completely. It was I that found the images. It was an honest misunderstanding, and I am sorry. When I saw an image with one letter, and the hint that we needed to find the next URL, I assumed that we had to find more images hidden on the site to construct said URL. When I discovered the images sitting out in the open, that seemed to reinforce the idea that we were supposed to discover them, so I shared my findings. Now I understand that this was out of bounds, and it won't happen again. I apologize to Freddy Jacobi for making you redo the puzzles, and to everyone else for spoiling part of the surprise.

No worries.  Now that you and that other user posted, we understand what happened and that it wasn't malicious.  We appreciate the explanation.  Now let's get back to having fun with this!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 14, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
I personally can't keep track what we know vs what we're are allowed to know vs what is and is no longer valid. Sorry to say the balloon is officially deflated for me.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on July 14, 2018, 04:01:03 PM
Pretty sure that it was only images that leaked prematurely and those images have been rendered invalid.There's no other info you're not supposed to know right now. As it stands there are two images that have been confirmed as solutions for 2 puzzles, and it's been confirmed that there's 16 puzzles. The final puzzle will require the solutions for all the 15 previous puzzles to solve.

It's also been confirmed that it will take a long time to complete the game - many weeks. As it stands, the puzzles have been given out with approx a week in between, so I assume it's going to be one puzzle per week.

All of that info was in the : https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/dream-theater-working-in-studio/  page.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 14, 2018, 04:26:48 PM
Ooo...16 puzzles in 16 weeks. November should be an exciteful month.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 15, 2018, 10:18:30 AM
So...

"The next puzzle will surely stump you."

Is this a reference to The Test That Stumped Them All? The "test" in that song is schizophrenia, right?

I don't know if this is connected, but I just found a Freddy Jacobi social media account that does not have a Freddy Jacobi username. In Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/l3ke8uixajb/?hl=en

Maybe it is not Freddy Jacobi after all. Maybe it is the test that stumped us all. :lol

"Pay attention to my social media and look for the keyword “sparrows”.

This is still blank.  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 15, 2018, 11:51:51 AM
In Instagram when you enter any profile the name that it’s show at the top usually matches the user name in the case of that account what you see at the top it’s something completely different: I3k38uixajb



Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on July 15, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
Not sure what you mean by that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 15, 2018, 12:54:46 PM
Not sure what you mean by that.

(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/E2B4E24D-9AEB-4262-905A-5CFC4ACF88E9_zps95la2obg.jpg) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/E2B4E24D-9AEB-4262-905A-5CFC4ACF88E9_zps95la2obg.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 15, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Not sure what you mean by that.

(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/E2B4E24D-9AEB-4262-905A-5CFC4ACF88E9_zps95la2obg.jpg) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/E2B4E24D-9AEB-4262-905A-5CFC4ACF88E9_zps95la2obg.jpg.html)

BTW, this profile follows 3 accounts:

- Dr Andy Khawaja
- Tyga / T-Raww
- UBRA Boats


Wonder if that means anything...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on July 15, 2018, 04:23:06 PM
Thats just the same for me. My instagram account name is a derivate of my nick, but the name my account has is my real name. Nothing strange about that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 15, 2018, 06:55:02 PM
Thats just the same for me. My instagram account name is a derivate of my nick, but the name my account has is my real name. Nothing strange about that.

I just find the name very random compared to the account name. Again maybe this is nothing.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Hyrul on July 16, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
Freddy Jacobi tweeted.
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1019003974257606656

We can only wonder a few things, keeping in mind that sparrow thing ;
There’s birds in the art of Octavarium.
The ‘o” missing in “In The Presence of Enemies” is only because of twitter’s character limitation in the poll creation.
The poll is set to last for exactly three days ; this is not Twitter’s default poll length. By default, the length is one day, and it can be set to up to seven days. FJ set it to three for a reason...


(as always i keep the google doc updated if you guys lost track ; https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/ )
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 17, 2018, 01:04:10 AM
The poll is set to last for exactly three days

Nuggetz  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SwedishGoose on July 17, 2018, 02:20:28 AM
So Freddy is Lord Nefarious...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 17, 2018, 02:51:10 AM
Very cool idea.

I don't understand anything so far but I will follow this thread to know more about what I don't understand.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 17, 2018, 03:50:59 AM
Very cool idea.

I don't understand anything so far but I will follow this thread to know more about what I don't understand.  :laugh:

Ditto for me. The whole treasure hunt idea is a great way to engage with fans.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on July 17, 2018, 05:57:29 AM
You only have three days...









HAhaAHAhahhahAHHAhahahahAAHHAHAAAAHAAAAAAAAaaaaaa
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Mindflux on July 17, 2018, 01:15:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/SMuL9HK.png)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: E-John on July 17, 2018, 01:44:04 PM
Freddy Jacobi tweeted.
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1019003974257606656

keeping in mind that sparrow thing ;
There’s birds in the art of Octavarium.


Isn't it more likely that the sparrows refers to the lyrics of Pull Me Under? "Watch the sparrow falling gives new meaning to it all"?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Evai on July 17, 2018, 01:49:15 PM
But what about "The songbird stops to listen when he sings"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on July 17, 2018, 02:04:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/SMuL9HK.png)

Is it supposed to be like a key chain?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on July 17, 2018, 02:40:29 PM
Very cool idea.

I don't understand anything so far but I will follow this thread to know more about what I don't understand.  :laugh:

The treasure hunt thread is my daily dose of "what the heck is going on?". It's fun following it though. ;p
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 17, 2018, 03:15:58 PM
Condoms?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 17, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
Condoms?

Strange kind of penis...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rumborak on July 17, 2018, 04:04:03 PM
My guess is it's a wax seal.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ReaperKK on July 17, 2018, 04:22:52 PM
My guess is it's a wax seal.

That's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Valor on July 17, 2018, 04:45:14 PM
This is gonna be fun.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 17, 2018, 08:04:32 PM
My guess is it's a wax seal.

The ones at the box have a hole at the top, I think it is some kind of pendant for a necklace
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 17, 2018, 11:45:44 PM
Or maybe it's a coin for shopping carts, to be used by those who don't put them back in the corral.  ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 18, 2018, 06:06:04 AM
(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/4C41D93E-C440-44B4-96D9-DE0A5DD819C4_zpsvpslvjeo.png) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/4C41D93E-C440-44B4-96D9-DE0A5DD819C4_zpsvpslvjeo.png.html)

I got that email from the official DT store
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 18, 2018, 06:32:28 AM
It was announced on FB as well.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rumborak on July 18, 2018, 08:03:25 AM
Quanta costa is $125.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on July 18, 2018, 09:22:44 AM
This maybe is wrong place to say this but DT's merch have been really poor and uninteresting after MP left. They should see what for example Animals as Leaders, Periphery and Haken sell for fans.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: millahh on July 18, 2018, 09:26:35 AM
This maybe is wrong place to say this but DT's merch have been really poor and uninteresting after MP left. They should see what for example Animals as Leaders, Periphery and Haken sell for fans.

...or Ghost.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 18, 2018, 09:28:06 AM
This maybe is wrong place to say this but DT's merch have been really poor and uninteresting after MP left. They should see what for example Animals as Leaders, Periphery and Haken sell for fans.

Just curious because I don't know - what are those bands doing better in terms of merch? Different types of merch or just stuff you like better?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 18, 2018, 10:52:44 AM
How bout some Socks...haha
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 18, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
This necklace doesn't have anything to do with the treasure hunt, does it?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 18, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
This necklace doesn't have anything to do with the treasure hunt, does it?
Doubt it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Elite on July 18, 2018, 11:26:05 AM
You have to buy one to see the secret password on the side and you need all 200 of them to complete the puzzle.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rumborak on July 18, 2018, 11:30:16 AM
Gotta catch em all!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 18, 2018, 11:40:26 AM
(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/4C41D93E-C440-44B4-96D9-DE0A5DD819C4_zpsvpslvjeo.png) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/4C41D93E-C440-44B4-96D9-DE0A5DD819C4_zpsvpslvjeo.png.html)

I got that email from the official DT store

My first thought... if you're old enough to afford that thing, you're too old to be wearing it  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 18, 2018, 12:38:58 PM
This necklace doesn't have anything to do with the treasure hunt, does it?

The band were given HINTS of what it could be over their social media, maybe it has to do with the hunt maybe not, I would use the numbers in the picture as some kind of password though 001/200, who knows, the Jacobi guy said to be alert of social media
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on July 18, 2018, 01:22:28 PM
I almost feel like anything is fair game with DT's social media, so while the answer isn't know, it shouldn't be discarded IMO
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SystematicThought on July 18, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
If you had told me 3-4 years ago that we would be questioning whether a social media post has anything to do with a treasure hunt leading up to a new album, I would have said we were crazy.

They've really amped up my excitement level for the album with the interactivity. Kinda makes me think this would have been a fun way to unveil details leading up to The Astonishing, like a mystery thing. Actually, when we had to sign up by choosing a side (GNEA or Ravenskill), I thought we were going to be doing something similar to what we're doing now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on July 18, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Freddy has Tweeted!!

Quote from: Freddy Jacobi on Twitter (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1019734748665655296)
159
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 18, 2018, 07:08:29 PM
The 159th pre-order will get a hint??
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 18, 2018, 08:07:15 PM
159 days counting from today --> December 24th --> JP is Santa on steroids (or the birthday boy himself) --> New single as Christmas gift
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: nattmorker on July 18, 2018, 08:19:16 PM
Freddy has Tweeted!!

Quote from: Freddy Jacobi on Twitter (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1019734748665655296)
159

Viewing the numbers upside down, as in a calculator, is "GSI"... i don't know  ???
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 18, 2018, 08:53:34 PM
159 days counting from today --> December 24th --> JP is Santa on steroids (or the birthday boy himself) --> New single as Christmas gift

6:00 on a Christmas morning. I’d say it’s good reasoning.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 18, 2018, 11:37:30 PM
Well, Awake is the next album so 6:00 on a Christmas morning does fit.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 19, 2018, 12:57:12 AM
This is turning out to be the test that stumped us all.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 19, 2018, 03:07:26 AM
He tweeted again!

"65"


Edit:
I noticed that 159-65 = 94, which is the year Awake was released... I wonder if it means anything  ???
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 19, 2018, 04:33:40 AM
He tweeted again!

"65"


Edit:
I noticed that 159-65 = 94, which is the year Awake was released... I wonder if it means anything  ???

Of course it does. According to the given sequence, with the titles of each new "step" linked to the studio albums chronologically arranged, Awake is the next one. Maybe the "94" is a piece of the next password. Who knows? Let the Sherlocks out there figure it out :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 04:47:49 AM
I noticed that 159 and 65 are both permutations of sections of the Vail Renovations phone number, i.e. (518) 519-0756. That could be part of they key to decode the next password.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 19, 2018, 07:00:48 AM
Another one!

This time "85"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: AngelBack on July 19, 2018, 07:03:33 AM
I noticed that 159 and 65 are both permutations of sections of the Vail Renovations phone number, i.e. (518) 519-0756. That could be part of they key to decode the next password.

and 85 fits from the area code, anyone called it again?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: AngelBack on July 19, 2018, 07:06:57 AM
Called it, same message as before.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 19, 2018, 07:15:24 AM
Maybe he'll give another 2 digits and it will form a new phone number... I guess it's possible since the first 3 digits came together (and kinda fits the format of an area code).
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: theanalogkid7 on July 19, 2018, 07:53:19 AM
Maybe he'll give another 2 digits and it will form a new phone number... I guess it's possible since the first 3 digits came together (and kinda fits the format of an area code).

It's possible, but 159 couldn't be the area code.  I did take the phone number we currently have and replaced the numbers with the new ones from the tweets and came away with: redacted.  I don't think it's anything, but I figured I'd at least document that here.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 19, 2018, 08:07:33 AM
Maybe someone should try to call this number: (518) 159-6585.

I took the original area code and used the new numbers as the number itself.

Worth a shot I guess..
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 19, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
Maybe someone should try to call this number: (518) 159-6585.

I took the original area code and used the new numbers as the number itself.

Worth a shot I guess..

I called that number and got the "your call cannot be completed as dialed" message (not surprising since North American phone numbers can only begin with numbers between 2-9).

I reversed the number and called and got a simple voice mail message that said, "Hello, please leave a message after the tone."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on July 19, 2018, 01:29:14 PM
This maybe is wrong place to say this but DT's merch have been really poor and uninteresting after MP left. They should see what for example Animals as Leaders, Periphery and Haken sell for fans.

Just curious because I don't know - what are those bands doing better in terms of merch? Different types of merch or just stuff you like better?

DT has just black basic t-shirts with really unintrested images printed on them. Those band I mentioned sell different color shirts, more fitted shirts and those band shirts even doesn't look like band shirt at times, it's more like a brand. I like it better, I know that there are people who like to have a shirt with just an album cover on it but I don't.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 02:17:06 PM
We have a 4th number. I like the idea that this could be an ip address (159.65.85.240). It appears to be Google if you put that in a browser, but actually it's serving a page that redirects to google with a meta tag:

Code: [Select]
(16:14) bfoster:~$ curl -i 159.65.85.240
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.10.3 (Ubuntu)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:14:06 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 71
Last-Modified: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:56:44 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
ETag: "5b50ecfc-47"
Accept-Ranges: bytes

<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=https://www.google.com/" />

The last line is the response body. Also note that according to the last-modified header, this page was modified today, shortly before Freddy's last tweet.

If we do a reverse DNS lookup on that ip address, we find that it points to hammern.com.

Code: [Select]
(16:14) bfoster:~$ dig +short -x 159.65.85.240
hammern.com.

I'm not sure what to make of that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on July 19, 2018, 02:44:55 PM
We have a 4th number. I like the idea that this could be an ip address (159.65.85.240). It appears to be Google if you put that in a browser, but actually it's serving a page that redirects to google with a meta tag:

Code: [Select]
(16:14) bfoster:~$ curl -i 159.65.85.240
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.10.3 (Ubuntu)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:14:06 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 71
Last-Modified: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:56:44 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
ETag: "5b50ecfc-47"
Accept-Ranges: bytes

<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=https://www.google.com/" />

The last line is the response body. Also note that according to the last-modified header, this page was modified today, shortly before Freddy's last tweet.

If we do a reverse DNS lookup on that ip address, we find that it points to hammern.com.

Code: [Select]
(16:14) bfoster:~$ dig +short -x 159.65.85.240
hammern.com.

I'm not sure what to make of that.
The whois for hammern.com doesn't have any interesting except this:

Registrant State/Province: Buskerud

Which is in Norway as I understand it.  Probably nothing.

Also, the IP is in the UK.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 19, 2018, 02:51:30 PM
While I do enjoy you trying to piece together the information I give you - I would rather like for you not to prod and poke into personal information of innocent bystanders...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 02:53:46 PM
While I do enjoy you trying to piece together the information I give you - I would rather like for you not to prod and poke into personal information of innocent bystanders...

I assume this is Freddyese for "It's not an ip address, don't poke it."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 19, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
Geez, you guys can't keep the proposed pace for like 5 seconds ...

Hi, Noxon
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 19, 2018, 03:49:55 PM
I assume this is Freddyese for "It's not an ip address, don't poke it."

What if it's something that's not connected to my hunt at all? That's my point. Be careful with what information you guys are spreading around, as it may not be connected to the game. That's what I mean by innocent bystanders. Say you got a treasure map, and you read it wrong. You started digging in the yard of some old bloke, and before you know it, his entire yard is just a bunch of holes. Poor bloke knew nothing of what hit him.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2018, 04:05:14 PM
But having a treasure hunt with so much cryptic information with fake websites, who knows what is off limits and what is not.

One guy blows the whole thing up, and now there's something personal involved. I mean, I don't mean to sound like "that guy", but this is inviting it, frankly. DT fans are very smart and will figure it out. But like MP and the SOA member reveals, don't tease it and then get upset that the mystery was solved.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 19, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
I would hope people have enough smarts to understand that contact information surrounding non-confirmed entities should be treated carefully.

Someone in this thread were making assumptions that they had to scramble some information randomly, and started calling a number I had not given them. What if it had connected? What if 100 people had started calling that number? Please consider that side too. Hope that clarifies.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 04:22:21 PM
I assume this is Freddyese for "It's not an ip address, don't poke it."

What if it's something that's not connected to my hunt at all? That's my point. Be careful with what information you guys are spreading around, as it may not be connected to the game. That's what I mean by innocent bystanders. Say you got a treasure map, and you read it wrong. You started digging in the yard of some old bloke, and before you know it, his entire yard is just a bunch of holes. Poor bloke knew nothing of what hit him.

I understand your concern. Everything that's been posted here so far has been publicly available information, so I don't see the harm. I still like the hypothesis that it's an ip address, but I won't do anything that could be harmful if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 04:23:28 PM
I would hope people have enough smarts to understand that contact information surrounding non-confirmed entities should be treated carefully.

Someone in this thread were making assumptions that they had to scramble some information randomly, and started calling a number I had not given them. What if it had connected? What if 100 people had started calling that number? Please consider that side too. Hope that clarifies.

Makes sense, thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 06:22:43 PM
Confirmed. In the last post with the dead sparrow, there's some difficult to read text at the top. I did a Google image search and found the original dead sparrow picture, and then aligned and diffed it in Photoshop to make the text stand out. It says spz2.jpg. Combining that with the ip address, we get: https://159.65.85.240/spz2.jpg

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/467246922265001986/469659462991478785/unknown.png)
(https://159.65.85.240/spz2.jpg)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 06:56:59 PM
Ignore the 0's and 1's in the image. It says "You're loking in the wrong place." Instead, if you inspect the file, you'll find that there's text appended to the end of the binary data.

Code: [Select]
blake@bfdesktop ~ $ tail -n 1 ~/Desktop/spz2.jpg
���҈�09����]B� �SL�h������r��\ ��CB�g���PK��L��+� ��more.txtUTP�N[ux
                                                                                               �PKN�https://freddyjacobi.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 07:38:38 PM
LOL, I found your message Freddy. :D

blake@bfdesktop ~ $ curl https://159.65.85.240/spz2.jpg -I
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.10.3 (Ubuntu)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 01:35:23 GMT
Content-Type: image/jpeg
Content-Length: 199837
Last-Modified: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 23:31:06 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
ETag: "5b511f3a-30c9d"
X-Blake: much_respect
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 19, 2018, 08:37:58 PM
Where did we come from?
HOW are we here?
Where do we go while HE CODES?

Translate all of this if possible, thank you so much.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 19, 2018, 08:42:25 PM
The GDoc has a pretty good summary: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/edit#
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 19, 2018, 08:45:44 PM
This is going too deep and too fast. I'm not ready yet to enter this level of the matrix...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 19, 2018, 11:23:52 PM
To find the password to this: https://freddyjacobi.wordpress.com/awake/

OK, so the zip file has this message:

"sp9fOXAkIFer1fLh4UpAisBoB1AKv5SaB8E4kw==
rc4

Inspiration leads to inspiration leads to inspiration. To find the key to open the box, you must reference the inspiration by book, chapter and verse."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 19, 2018, 11:43:41 PM
Sparrow is a reference to Pull Me Under, right? And PMU is inspired by Hamlet Act1 Scene2.

But the Book chapter verse is throwing me off because that is a biblical reference
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 20, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
If it is a biblical reference, it could be Matthew 10:29 https://biblehub.com/matthew/10-29.htm

Quote
Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father's care.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 20, 2018, 04:26:23 AM
If it is a biblical reference, it could be Matthew 10:29 https://biblehub.com/matthew/10-29.htm

Quote
Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father's care.

Other instances where Sparrows are mentioned in the Bible

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Sparrows
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Skeever on July 20, 2018, 07:29:07 AM
I would hope people have enough smarts to understand that contact information surrounding non-confirmed entities should be treated carefully.

Someone in this thread were making assumptions that they had to scramble some information randomly, and started calling a number I had not given them. What if it had connected? What if 100 people had started calling that number? Please consider that side too. Hope that clarifies.

Understood, but if I can provide some feedback, I would say that this guidance is appreciated up front if these things are out of bounds. I personally would not have dialed any numbers, or googled any addresses or IP addresses, but it's not unreasonable to see how people would have come to those conclusions, especially given the nature of the previous clues (one even leading to someone's business and a phone number - and I felt extremely uneasy about making that call as one of the first people here to do it).

I understand the need course correct and puppet master this thing, but the posture that has been taken when doing so comes across as a bit condescending and judgmental from my perspective, which I am sure is not intentional, but sucks the fun out of things all the same. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: AngelBack on July 20, 2018, 07:57:01 AM
I think some folks need to chill a bit.  I'm sure whoever FJ is, he is not a full time internet treasure hunt game maker.  He has probably already encountered a few unintended consequences already.  AND they are doing this for the fans, they certainly did not have to and I would guess no one is making money on this.  I appreciate the creativity and zeal some are approaching this with and I would guess that Bosk warned FJ this group is GOOD at sleuthing.  But I say let's keep it light and fun and if FJ has to steer us back in line, accept it with the understanding the band certainly had to sign off on this and it is meant to be fun and to give us fanboys something to do until release date.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on July 21, 2018, 03:58:51 AM
Has anybody noticed the binary at the bottom of the sparrow picture? spz2.jpg?

01011001 01101111 01110101 00100111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01101100 01101111 01101111 01101011
01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000
01110111 01110010 01101111 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110000 01101100 01100001 01100011 01100101

I've run it through a translator. I've been bamboozled.

Edit: I've just seen that it has indeed been caught! Whoops!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 22, 2018, 11:36:47 AM
Darn it. So rc4 is another decryption, and when you run

sp9fOXAkIFer1fLh4UpAisBoB1AKv5SaB8E4kw

to an rc4 decrypter like this one

https://encode-decode.com/rc4-encrypt-online/

and you input Matthew 10:29 as password (thanks Logain Ablar!)

you will get the link to this Youtube page:

https://youtu.be/J8XC3-DF0kY

Maddi is dialing a phone number! I can not call it because I am in the Philippines! LOL. Based on his finger movements, it's 518-227-1547. Hey Freddym is it safe to call that number? :lol

The YT text says "surrounded by the missing". I guess this has something to do with the misspelled text in the sparrow image that is missing an "o"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 22, 2018, 11:58:07 AM
Well, shouldn't that point to light? "surrounded by the LIGHT".... it looks like they borrow a lot from I&W
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 22, 2018, 12:13:09 PM
The Sherlock crew already figured it out, hehe...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/edit
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 22, 2018, 12:20:52 PM
Well, that spoils it. I was hoping not to look at the cheat sheet.  :lol

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 24, 2018, 01:15:37 AM
The letters in the puzzle pieces so far and the number of puzzle pieces (16) point to the Hidden By Design as the big picture. Would that be the title of a song or the album? Sounds badass.

I hope the final payoff would be a video of the band jamming the demo of the song. :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: nobloodyname on July 24, 2018, 06:55:48 AM
Someone in this thread were making assumptions that they had to scramble some information randomly, and started calling a number I had not given them. What if it had connected? What if 100 people had started calling that number? Please consider that side too. Hope that clarifies.

Maybe I'm just behaving like the old man I (almost) am but people calling numbers that may or may not have anything to do with this 'game' sits uncomfortably with me, as does some of the other activity. Perhaps it would be prudent to set some boundaries before someone inadvertently ends up in trouble?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 24, 2018, 07:08:33 AM
The letters in the puzzle pieces so far and the number of puzzle pieces (16) point to the Hidden By Design as the big picture. Would that be the title of a song or the album? Sounds badass.

Sounds like a good album title to me :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 24, 2018, 07:39:38 AM
The letters in the puzzle pieces so far and the number of puzzle pieces (16) point to the Hidden By Design as the big picture. Would that be the title of a song or the album? Sounds badass.

Sounds like a good album title to me :metal

Thirded.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on July 24, 2018, 08:03:36 AM
The letters in the puzzle pieces so far and the number of puzzle pieces (16) point to the Hidden By Design as the big picture. Would that be the title of a song or the album? Sounds badass.

Sounds like a good album title to me :metal

Thirded.

I agree.  Where did we first hear the phrase "Hidden by Design?"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 24, 2018, 08:12:38 AM
Future interview:

"How come the album title came about?"

JP: "We went through the lyrics as usual. It was planned to be called Hidden by Design but some people on our forum figured it out too soon and we felt we had to change it"

 :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 24, 2018, 08:19:57 AM
Future interview:

"How come the album title came about?"

JP: "We went through the lyrics as usual. It was planned to be called Hidden by Design but some people on our forum figured it out too soon and we felt we had to change it"

 :lol

Oh, Nooooooooose! :'(  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 24, 2018, 08:24:35 AM
The letters in the puzzle pieces so far and the number of puzzle pieces (16) point to the Hidden By Design as the big picture. Would that be the title of a song or the album? Sounds badass.

Sounds like a good album title to me :metal

Thirded.

I agree.  Where did we first hear the phrase "Hidden by Design?"

+1 here. Cool name. BTW, came from this post:
https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheater/photos/a.10152286380427181.1073741827.7677942180/10155410731402181/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 24, 2018, 09:38:29 AM
Future interview:

"How come the album title came about?"

JP: "We went through the lyrics as usual. It was planned to be called Hidden by Design but some people on our forum figured it out too soon and we felt we had to change it"

 :lol

“So what title did you guys settle on?”

JP: “Water’s Edge”
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: nobloodyname on July 24, 2018, 09:58:54 AM
^^^ Well done :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 24, 2018, 10:24:38 AM
Future interview:

"How come the album title came about?"

JP: "We went through the lyrics as usual. It was planned to be called Hidden by Design but some people on our forum figured it out too soon and we felt we had to change it"

 :lol

“So what title did you guys settle on?”

JP: “Water’s Edge”

Congrats gzarruk! Btw, you've just discovered America (look at your post count)! :biggrin:

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 24, 2018, 11:54:10 AM
Isn't "stumbling by accident unto some islands nearby a continent that has been visited many years before not even realizing they were not India" more accurate? :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 24, 2018, 12:26:57 PM
Isn't "stumbling by accident unto some islands nearby a continent that has been visited many years before not even realizing they were not India" more accurate? :D

Well, in fact, I took the shortcut. :biggrin:

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 24, 2018, 01:20:07 PM
Well, that's what Columbus said.

:biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 24, 2018, 01:32:01 PM
If the album ends up being titled Hidden by Design, I'll feel weird abbreviating it HBD, as it reads like "Happy Birthday" :eek
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Elite on July 24, 2018, 01:38:00 PM
If the album ends up being titled Hidden by Design, I'll feel weird abbreviating it HBD, as it reads like "Happy Birthday" :eek

How 'Bout Dah?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 24, 2018, 03:19:53 PM
If the album ends up being titled Hidden by Design, I'll feel weird abbreviating it HBD, as it reads like "Happy Birthday" :eek

How 'Bout Dah?

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/73902230.jpg)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SeRoX on July 25, 2018, 02:54:47 AM
What if all of that guess is unnecessary and the album title is Treasure Hunt from the beginning.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on July 25, 2018, 11:04:59 AM
What if all of that guess is unnecessary and the album title is Treasure Hunt from the beginning.

And John's been growing his beard all along just to play a pirate on the album?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on July 25, 2018, 02:39:57 PM
What if all of that guess is unnecessary and the album title is Treasure Hunt from the beginning.

And John's been growing his beard all along just to play a pirate on the album?

Maybe their next cover album will be Alestorm's No Grave but the Sea
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TH1RT3EN on July 26, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
What if all of that guess is unnecessary and the album title is Treasure Hunt from the beginning.

And John's been growing his beard all along just to play a pirate on the album?

I think James already got that pirate thing covered.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on July 26, 2018, 12:41:41 PM
What if all of that guess is unnecessary and the album title is Treasure Hunt from the beginning.

And John's been growing his beard all along just to play a pirate on the album?

I think James already got that pirate thing covered.

Well, the ship needs a full crew :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 26, 2018, 03:48:48 PM
Does it have to do with the treasure hunt or the album?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1022593643004264448 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1022593643004264448)

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 26, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
 :yeahright
Does it have to do with the treasure hunt or the album?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1022593643004264448 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1022593643004264448)

B.Lee

Those numbers must be meaning something for the treasure hunt
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 26, 2018, 04:27:37 PM
:yeahright
Does it have to do with the treasure hunt or the album?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1022593643004264448 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1022593643004264448)

B.Lee

Those numbers must be meaning something for the treasure hunt

Yes, you're right, of course! I'm stupid at times...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on July 26, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
I had a little trouble hearing but it sounded like these.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

3 7 3 11 3 19
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 26, 2018, 04:47:06 PM
I had a little trouble hearing but it sounded like these.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

3 7 3 11 3 19

That's correct.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on July 26, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
Here is one possibility:

3   7   3     11  3   19
  (3+4)   (3+8)   (3+16)

Continuing this pattern gives us:

3 7 3 11 3 19 3 35 3 67 3 131 . . .

I have no idea if this helps at all.  Is there a name for this type of pattern?


Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 27, 2018, 01:15:29 AM
Here is one possibility:

3   7   3     11  3   19
  (3+4)   (3+8)   (3+16)

Continuing this pattern gives us:

3 7 3 11 3 19 3 35 3 67 3 131 . . .

I have no idea if this helps at all.  Is there a name for this type of pattern?

You may be onto something. They are also prime numbers.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 27, 2018, 01:58:29 AM
Here is one possibility:

3   7   3     11  3   19
  (3+4)   (3+8)   (3+16)

Continuing this pattern gives us:

3 7 3 11 3 19 3 35 3 67 3 131 . . .

I have no idea if this helps at all.  Is there a name for this type of pattern?

You may be onto something. They are also prime numbers.
Not all of them are. 35 is 5x7. But yeah, Mike's numbers are.

The thing is, 13 and 17 are missing. One could also argue that 15 (which is 11+4 and 19-4) is the one missing. Maybe the key numbers here are the ones missing?

I also did 7x11x19, in case those are the key numbers. It's 1463. I'm not sure if it has any significance in any context.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 27, 2018, 02:35:51 AM
Also: if you replace each number with its corresponding letter in the alphabet, you get "CGCKCS". Now, moving each letter 17 places, it transforms into "TXTBTJ".

The "TXT" bit makes me believe that this could be related to a ".txt" file - or a text in which "BTJ" means something/is important.

That, or I just wasted 20 precious minutes of sleep time. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 27, 2018, 03:31:06 AM
Also: if you replace each number with its corresponding letter in the alphabet, you get "CGCKCS". Now, moving each letter 17 places, it transforms into "TXTBTJ".

The "TXT" bit makes me believe that this could be related to a ".txt" file - or a text in which "BTJ" means something/is important.

That, or I just wasted 20 precious minutes of sleep time. :biggrin:

I did exactly the same thing. I even looked on the Online Encyclopedia Of Integer Sequences (yes, a real thing: https://oeis.org/, but nothing much there)

Though I'm wasting work time, instead of sleep time.  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 27, 2018, 04:27:46 AM
Also: if you replace each number with its corresponding letter in the alphabet, you get "CGCKCS". Now, moving each letter 17 places, it transforms into "TXTBTJ".

The "TXT" bit makes me believe that this could be related to a ".txt" file - or a text in which "BTJ" means something/is important.

That, or I just wasted 20 precious minutes of sleep time. :biggrin:

It's actually Beyond The Justice, a AJFA medley they recorded as bonus track for the forthcoming album.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 27, 2018, 11:31:29 AM
I did exactly the same thing. I even looked on the Online Encyclopedia Of Integer Sequences (yes, a real thing: https://oeis.org/, but nothing much there)
Wow, that's a thing? Cool!

It's actually Beyond The Justice, a AJFA medley they recorded as bonus track for the forthcoming album.
Haha! :biggrin:

Back on topic: maybe the numbers are related to π (Pi)? If you put together each 3 with the number to its right as a decimal, you get:
I'm not sure if it's a thing, though. If Pi was key on this puzzle, one would think the numbers would get closer and closer, but that doesn't seem to be the case. At the very least, I think it can be considered.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on July 27, 2018, 12:34:02 PM
I did exactly the same thing. I even looked on the Online Encyclopedia Of Integer Sequences (yes, a real thing: https://oeis.org/, but nothing much there)
Wow, that's a thing? Cool!

It's actually Beyond The Justice, a AJFA medley they recorded as bonus track for the forthcoming album.
Haha! :biggrin:

Back on topic: maybe the numbers are related to π (Pi)? If you put together each 3 with the number to its right as a decimal, you get:
  • 3,7 (which is approx. 0,558 more than Pi)
  • 3,11 (which is approx. 0,031 less than Pi)
  • 3,19 (which is approx. 0,048 more than Pi)
I'm not sure if it's a thing, though. If Pi was key on this puzzle, one would think the numbers would get closer and closer, but that doesn't seem to be the case. At the very least, I think it can be considered.

Well, the digits of Pi are infinite and the next puzzle is Falling into Infinity, so...
Maybe this is really really improbable but, you never know..
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 27, 2018, 06:13:13 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the numerical digits in these puzzles have been website directories (or whatever the technical term for a web address is) - so I imagine this new series numbers might be as well - once further clues are revealed. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 28, 2018, 12:00:09 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the numerical digits in these puzzles have been website directories (or whatever the technical term for a web address is) - so I imagine this new series numbers might be as well - once further clues are revealed.
Could be, of course.

Another idea:

Maybe we should not be focusing on the numbers, but on the time signatures? Could it be that Mike's hints point to a DT song which features time signatures related to 7, 11 and 19? The two bars of 19/16 that he is playing (with his feet and on that cymbal, from 0:26 to 0:30 in the video) reminded me of that section during the outro of "Home" in 19/16. As far as I can tell, "Home" doesn't have any time signature related to 11, though. (But it does feature many bars in 7/8)

Does anyone here remember which other songs feature 19/16? (I'm guessing there aren't that many.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 28, 2018, 01:43:55 AM
Also: I get the 7 (played between the snare and toms), 11 (played between the snare and that big... floor tom?) and 19 (played between the cymbal and the bass drum). When Mike mentions those time signatures at the end of the video, he points to those parts of the kit, but he also keeps pointing to the lower-left side of his kit when he mentions the 3s, even though he doesn't play anything there.

Could that be some sort of obscure hint? (Like that one about the missing "o"s surrounding "Finally Free".)

Furthermore: doesn't the beat with the kick drum starting at 0:24 remind you of the one in "The Dance of Eternity" starting at 1:44? (It's not the same, obviously - the one in "TDoE" has 4 notes, and this one has 5.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on July 28, 2018, 06:04:53 AM
No other song between I&W and DT12 uses 19/16, so I don't think that's it. Good thought tho
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 28, 2018, 12:20:45 PM
No other song between I&W and DT12 uses 19/16, so I don't think that's it. Good thought tho
Really? Wow, I could have sworn it was more popular in the discography.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on July 28, 2018, 04:12:05 PM
No other song between I&W and DT12 uses 19/16, so I don't think that's it. Good thought tho
Really? Wow, I could have sworn it was more popular in the discography.

Dream Theater doesn't use crazy meters like that nearly as often as people think. Most of the time they go with something more conservative like 4/4, 3/4, 2/2, 5/4, 6/4, or 7/8 lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 28, 2018, 06:01:53 PM
No other song between I&W and DT12 uses 19/16, so I don't think that's it. Good thought tho
Really? Wow, I could have sworn it was more popular in the discography.

Dream Theater doesn't use crazy meters like that nearly as often as people think. Most of the time they go with something more conservative like 4/4, 3/4, 2/2, 5/4, 6/4, or 7/8 lol

This. It’s not what time signatures they use but how they use them. Take even their craziest song: The Dance of Eternity. The largest complex time signature used is 11/4, but they change between all of these relatively simple time signatures very quickly.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on July 29, 2018, 09:54:17 AM
We found a URL where you have to submit guesses and decrypt the resulting output. You are limited to only 20 guesses per day, so we have to work together. I've compiled a spreadsheet to help us. If you want to make guesses, it would probably be easiest if you just posted them here or in the Discord and I will add them as they come in, when I can.

Site: https://37311319.com/
Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SgjSq9M3wT5No3a-1ahRG2VvKXm2VC3yrQXp6o1SQhE/edit#gid=0

Edit: Note that the point is to figure out how the input converts to the output... not to bruteforce the password by blindly guessing.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 29, 2018, 10:19:27 AM
I really hope that the Freddy Jacobi way of talking is just an act, because the last two tweets is just a continuation of the "talking down" shtick that has been going on in his posts, unintentional as it may seem.

Hey Freddy, I think people are not guessing the game as quickly as before because only a few of us are left playing after getting turned off by the tone of the posts. This is supposed to be fun, right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 29, 2018, 10:31:04 AM
Here's a little Python script to analyze the diff as we change one character at a time from the baseline AAAAAAAA:
Code: [Select]
#!/usr/bin/env python

baseline = "zW||BRpsa'�j|p^Ud'Ewjp]['SPrfpuOefQ{eVUeXdKvBeZSWqPxBeZSWqhxvep][fDrqpYO_eAuipzTqZE|Bd'R[f}{|pdNW^H"

responses = {
    "BAAAAAAA": u"{X}}CSqtbaAk}q_VeaFxkq^\aTQsgqvPfgR|fWVfYeLwCf[TXrQyCf[TXriywfq^\gEsrqZP'fBvjq{Ur[F}CeaS\g~|}qeOX_I",
    "ABAAAAAA": u"zX}}CSqtaaAk}q_VdaFxkq^'TQsgqvPegR|fWVfXeLwCf[TWrQyCf[TWriywfq^[gEsrqZP_fBvjq{Uq[F}CeaS[g~|}qeOW_I",
    "AABAAAAA": u"zW}}CSqta'Ak}q_Vd'Fxkq^'SQsgqvPefR|fWVfXdLwCf[TWqQyCf[TWqiywfq^[fEsrqZP_eBvjq{UqZF}CeaS[f~|}qeOW^I",
    "AAABAAAA": u"zW|}CSqta'�k}q_Vd'Exkq^'SPsgqvPefQ|fWVfXdKwCf[TWqPyCf[TWqhywfq^[fDsrqZP_eAvjq{UqZE}CeaS[f}|}qeOW^H",
    "AAAABAAA": u"zW||CSqta'�j}q_Vd'Ewkq^'SPrgqvPefQ{fWVfXdKvCf[TWqPxCf[TWqhxwfq^[fDrrqZP_eAujq{UqZE|CeaS[f}{}qeOW^H",
    "AAAAABAA": u"zW||BSqta'�j|q_Vd'Ewjq^'SPrfqvPefQ{eWVfXdKvBf[TWqPxBf[TWqhxvfq^[fDrqqZP_eAuiq{UqZE|BeaS[f}{|qeOW^H",
    "AAAAAABA": u"zW||BRqta'�j|p_Vd'Ewjp^'SPrfpvPefQ{eVVfXdKvBe[TWqPxBe[TWqhxveq^[fDrqpZP_eAuip{UqZE|BdaS[f}{|peOW^H",
    "AAAAAAAB": u"zW||BRpta'�j|p^Vd'Ewjp]'SPrfpuPefQ{eVUfXdKvBeZTWqPxBeZTWqhxvep^[fDrqpYP_eAuipzUqZE|Bd'S[f}{|pdOW^H"
}

for codeword in sorted(responses):
    response = responses[codeword]
    diffs = ["*" if c1 == c2 else "_" for (c1, c2) in zip(response, baseline)]
    print(f'{codeword}: {"".join(diffs)}')

The output:

Code: [Select]
blake@bfdesktop ~ $ python analyze_diff.py
AAAAAAAB: *******_*******_*******___________________________________________________________________________
AAAAAABA: ******__******__******_______________*____________________________________________________________
AAAAABAA: *****___*****___*****________________*______________________________*_____________________________
AAAABAAA: ****____****____****_________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAABAAAA: ***_____***_____***__________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AABAAAAA: **______**______**___________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
ABAAAAAA: *_______*_______*____________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
BAAAAAAA: _____________________________________*_____________________________**_____________________________

Each asterisk shows what positions are unchanged when we changed one character from A to B. I need to sign off for a while, but this will run with Python 3.6 if anyone else wants to mess with it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 29, 2018, 10:53:52 AM
There's an extra http response header when you click submit:

X-Dream-Theater: The secret to this puzzle is finding the connection for each letter.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on July 29, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
Hey Freddy, I think people are not guessing the game as quickly as before because only a few of us are left playing after getting turned off by the tone of the posts. This is supposed to be fun, right?

Lot's of people are playing, and frankly if you think my tone is harsh just because i'm telling people off for terrorizing people by calling random telephone numbers "just because the rules didn't say we couldn't" - well, I don't know what to do with that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 29, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
The difference is more interesting if we compare other baselines:

Code: [Select]
#!/usr/bin/env python

responses = {
    "AAAAAAAA": "zW||BRpsa'�j|p^Ud'Ewjp]['SPrfpuOefQ{eVUeXdKvBeZSWqPxBeZSWqhxvep][fDrqpYO_eAuipzTqZE|Bd'R[f}{|pdNW^H",
    "BAAAAAAA": "{X}}CSqtbaAk}q_VeaFxkq^\aTQsgqvPfgR|fWVfYeLwCf[TXrQyCf[TXriywfq^\gEsrqZP'fBvjq{Ur[F}CeaS\g~|}qeOX_I",
    "ABAAAAAA": "zX}}CSqtaaAk}q_VdaFxkq^'TQsgqvPegR|fWVfXeLwCf[TWrQyCf[TWriywfq^[gEsrqZP_fBvjq{Uq[F}CeaS[g~|}qeOW_I",
    "AABAAAAA": "zW}}CSqta'Ak}q_Vd'Fxkq^'SQsgqvPefR|fWVfXdLwCf[TWqQyCf[TWqiywfq^[fEsrqZP_eBvjq{UqZF}CeaS[f~|}qeOW^I",
    "AAABAAAA": "zW|}CSqta'�k}q_Vd'Exkq^'SPsgqvPefQ|fWVfXdKwCf[TWqPyCf[TWqhywfq^[fDsrqZP_eAvjq{UqZE}CeaS[f}|}qeOW^H",
    "AAAABAAA": "zW||CSqta'�j}q_Vd'Ewkq^'SPrgqvPefQ{fWVfXdKvCf[TWqPxCf[TWqhxwfq^[fDrrqZP_eAujq{UqZE|CeaS[f}{}qeOW^H",
    "AAAAABAA": "zW||BSqta'�j|q_Vd'Ewjq^'SPrfqvPefQ{eWVfXdKvBf[TWqPxBf[TWqhxvfq^[fDrqqZP_eAuiq{UqZE|BeaS[f}{|qeOW^H",
    "AAAAAABA": "zW||BRqta'�j|p_Vd'Ewjp^'SPrfpvPefQ{eVVfXdKvBe[TWqPxBe[TWqhxveq^[fDrqpZP_eAuip{UqZE|BdaS[f}{|peOW^H",
    "AAAAAAAB": "zW||BRpta'�j|p^Vd'Ewjp]'SPrfpuPefQ{eVUfXdKvBeZTWqPxBeZTWqhxvep^[fDrqpYP_eAuipzUqZE|Bd'S[f}{|pdOW^H"
}

for baseline_codeword in sorted(responses):
    for codeword in sorted(responses):
        baseline = responses[baseline_codeword]
        response = responses[codeword]
        diffs = ["*" if c1 == c2 else "_" for (c1, c2) in zip(response, baseline)]
        print(f'{codeword}/{baseline_codeword}: {"".join(diffs)}')

Output:

Code: [Select]
blake@bfdesktop ~ $ python analyze_diff.py
AAAAAAAA/AAAAAAAA: ***************************************************************************************************
AAAAAAAB/AAAAAAAA: *******_*******_*******___________________________________________________________________________
AAAAAABA/AAAAAAAA: ******__******__******_______________*____________________________________________________________
AAAAABAA/AAAAAAAA: *****___*****___*****________________*______________________________*_____________________________
AAAABAAA/AAAAAAAA: ****____****____****_________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAABAAAA/AAAAAAAA: ***_____***_____***__________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AABAAAAA/AAAAAAAA: **______**______**___________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
ABAAAAAA/AAAAAAAA: *_______*_______*____________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
BAAAAAAA/AAAAAAAA: _____________________________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAAAAAAA/AAAAAAAB: *******_*******_*******___________________________________________________________________________
AAAAAAAB/AAAAAAAB: **************************************************************************************************
AAAAAABA/AAAAAAAB: ******_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_****
AAAAABAA/AAAAAAAB: *****__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__****
AAAABAAA/AAAAAAAB: ****___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___****
AAABAAAA/AAAAAAAB: ***____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****
AABAAAAA/AAAAAAAB: **_____***_____***_____**_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_
ABAAAAAA/AAAAAAAB: *______**______**______*______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**__
BAAAAAAA/AAAAAAAB: _______*_______*______________*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*___
AAAAAAAA/AAAAAABA: ******__******__******_______________*____________________________________________________________
AAAAAAAB/AAAAAABA: ******_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_****
AAAAAABA/AAAAAABA: **************************************************************************************************
AAAAABAA/AAAAAABA: *****_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*****
AAAABAAA/AAAAAABA: ****__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__*****
AAABAAAA/AAAAAABA: ***___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****
AABAAAAA/AAAAAABA: **____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****_
ABAAAAAA/AAAAAABA: *_____***_____***_____**_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***__
BAAAAAAA/AAAAAABA: ______**______**______*______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**___
AAAAAAAA/AAAAABAA: *****___*****___*****________________*______________________________*_____________________________
AAAAAAAB/AAAAABAA: *****__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__****
AAAAAABA/AAAAABAA: *****_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*****
AAAAABAA/AAAAABAA: **************************************************************************************************
AAAABAAA/AAAAABAA: ****_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_******
AAABAAAA/AAAAABAA: ***__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******
AABAAAAA/AAAAABAA: **___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****_
ABAAAAAA/AAAAABAA: *____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****__
BAAAAAAA/AAAAABAA: _____***_____***_____**_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***___
AAAAAAAA/AAAABAAA: ****____****____****_________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAAAAAAB/AAAABAAA: ****___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___****
AAAAAABA/AAAABAAA: ****__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__*****
AAAAABAA/AAAABAAA: ****_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_******
AAAABAAA/AAAABAAA: **************************************************************************************************
AAABAAAA/AAAABAAA: ***_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******
AABAAAAA/AAAABAAA: **__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******_
ABAAAAAA/AAAABAAA: *___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****__
BAAAAAAA/AAAABAAA: ____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****___
AAAAAAAA/AAABAAAA: ***_____***_____***__________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAAAAAAB/AAABAAAA: ***____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****
AAAAAABA/AAABAAAA: ***___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****
AAAAABAA/AAABAAAA: ***__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******
AAAABAAA/AAABAAAA: ***_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******
AAABAAAA/AAABAAAA: **************************************************************************************************
AABAAAAA/AAABAAAA: **_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_
ABAAAAAA/AAABAAAA: *__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__
BAAAAAAA/AAABAAAA: ___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___
AAAAAAAA/AABAAAAA: **______**______**___________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAAAAAAB/AABAAAAA: **_____***_____***_____**_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_
AAAAAABA/AABAAAAA: **____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****_
AAAAABAA/AABAAAAA: **___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****_
AAAABAAA/AABAAAAA: **__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******_
AAABAAAA/AABAAAAA: **_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_
AABAAAAA/AABAAAAA: **************************************************************************************************
ABAAAAAA/AABAAAAA: *_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*
BAAAAAAA/AABAAAAA: __******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__*
AAAAAAAA/ABAAAAAA: *_______*_______*____________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAAAAAAB/ABAAAAAA: *______**______**______*______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**__
AAAAAABA/ABAAAAAA: *_____***_____***_____**_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***__
AAAAABAA/ABAAAAAA: *____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****__
AAAABAAA/ABAAAAAA: *___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****__
AAABAAAA/ABAAAAAA: *__******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__
AABAAAAA/ABAAAAAA: *_*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*
ABAAAAAA/ABAAAAAA: **************************************************************************************************
BAAAAAAA/ABAAAAAA: _*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_**
AAAAAAAA/BAAAAAAA: _____________________________________*_____________________________**_____________________________
AAAAAAAB/BAAAAAAA: _______*_______*______________*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*_______*___
AAAAAABA/BAAAAAAA: ______**______**______*______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**______**___
AAAAABAA/BAAAAAAA: _____***_____***_____**_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***_____***___
AAAABAAA/BAAAAAAA: ____****____****____***____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****____****___
AAABAAAA/BAAAAAAA: ___*****___*****___****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___*****___
AABAAAAA/BAAAAAAA: __******__******__*****__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__******__*
ABAAAAAA/BAAAAAAA: _*******_*******_******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_*******_**
BAAAAAAA/BAAAAAAA: **************************************************************************************************
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 29, 2018, 11:35:12 AM
Excuse me, can you te me what Discord is?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 29, 2018, 11:39:24 AM
Excuse me, can you te me what Discord is?
It's like a chat  room for gamers, but we're using one too. The DT one for the treasure hunt is this one: https://discordapp.com/channels/285051699717210113/467246922265001986
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on July 29, 2018, 11:40:05 AM
Okay, I didn't understand anything about Blake's posts..  :lol So we have to guess 1-8 letter word and is there some hints what it should be? I'm so confused :\
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 29, 2018, 11:43:49 AM
Looks like Blake may have got somewhere. The response header is now:

X-Blake: much_respect

Blake, did you get it?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 29, 2018, 11:48:45 AM
You guys are really smart and I am a dumbass, I don't have a clue what you guys are talking about
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 29, 2018, 11:51:02 AM
By the way, we ask everyone here who wants to help, to post whatever song titles or words in album names:

We're trying to decrypt a text, and the keyword must have those features. (We may discard other first letters later, but that's all we have for now.)

So, for instance "Home" could be a candidate. It doesn't work, though, so we need others. One of them might be correct.

Thanks!

EDIT: No "B" as first letter either!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on July 29, 2018, 11:53:44 AM
I added a form for people to submit input/outputs, but I'm not sure how well it will help to have random submissions. The discussion about the submissions seems more important.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe3BaqCyHWvN248EaCRUpEM0eErZFh1TKyvFGG9nT3HIR3LYA/viewform
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on July 29, 2018, 12:00:10 PM
Looks like Blake may have got somewhere. The response header is now:

X-Blake: much_respect

Blake, did you get it?

In the sparrow image or another URL now?  ;D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 29, 2018, 12:11:24 PM
Looks like Blake may have got somewhere. The response header is now:

X-Blake: much_respect

Blake, did you get it?

In the sparrow image or another URL now?  ;D

It was on https://37311319.com/, when you submitted the form, the headers on 1.php had that X-Blake header on the response. It's now back to X-Dream-Theater now. I thought you had maybe solved it...  :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on July 29, 2018, 12:31:11 PM
HTML/CSS class seems to be relevant, so all of our submissions might be useless without this information.  :-\

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/473162904338825226/37311319.png)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 29, 2018, 12:47:59 PM
You could be on to something, but I only seem to get "class=2" for any word I try.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 29, 2018, 12:50:01 PM
Did you guys notice that the DT logo's URL in the site is on the same host as the sparrow image? (159.65.85.240)
I don't know if it means anything, but thought you guys should know
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 29, 2018, 01:00:28 PM
What do all these hokey characters mean?  I don't even understand what I'm seeing so as to interpret how the characters are changing.  Makes no sense at all to me.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on July 29, 2018, 01:07:14 PM
We do have a couple where the class is 1. There seems to be a pattern in the placement, but it's not clear what that means.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SgjSq9M3wT5No3a-1ahRG2VvKXm2VC3yrQXp6o1SQhE/edit#gid=1291773408
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 29, 2018, 01:07:33 PM
What do all these hokey characters mean?  I don't even understand what I'm seeing so as to interpret how the characters are changing.  Makes no sense at all to me.
The 1st letter of whatever you input changes every character in the output starting from the 1st. If you input a 2nd letter, it changes every character in the output starting from the 2nd, and so on.

Some of the guys at the Discord are working on some html aspect of the characters. Another way of working through this would be to see what 1st letters in the password give a suitable 1st letter in the output. (That's why I'm thinking "A", "B", "C" and "F" are not appropriate) Then, which 2nd letter gives a suitable pair of 1st/2nd letters in the output, and so on.

Previous passwords have been DT songs, so this new one could be as well.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 29, 2018, 02:03:12 PM
Ok guys, I've figured out something reallyyyyy cool:

If we're assuming that the '1' class means "correct letter", so we've got this so far (It's partial):

H e ' s _ a _ M o _ d a _    _ o r _ i n _    _ u n _ t i _     _ i s _ _ r _ e _ _ _ _ _ m _ t _ _ _ _ _ o _ t _ _ _ _ _ o _ t _ _ _ _ _ i


Notice anything? :)


"He's a Monday morning lunatic, disturbed from time to time..."


I don't know what exactly it means, but it seems we're getting closer!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on July 29, 2018, 02:05:23 PM
Ok guys, I've figured out something reallyyyyy cool:

If we're assuming that the '1' class means "correct letter", so we've got this so far (It's partial):

H e ' s _ a _ M o _ d a _    _ o r _ i n _    _ u n _ t i _     _ i s _ _ r _ e _ _ _ _ _ m _ t _ _ _ _ _ o _ t _ _ _ _ _ o _ t _ _ _ _ _ i


Notice anything? :)


"He's a Monday morning lunatic, disturbed from time to time..."


I don't know what exactly it means, but it seems we're getting closer!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Maybe Solitary Shell is the next password?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 29, 2018, 02:15:19 PM
Makes no sense at all to me.

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 29, 2018, 02:22:42 PM
Ok guys, I've figured out something reallyyyyy cool:

If we're assuming that the '1' class means "correct letter", so we've got this so far (It's partial):

H e ' s _ a _ M o _ d a _    _ o r _ i n _    _ u n _ t i _     _ i s _ _ r _ e _ _ _ _ _ m _ t _ _ _ _ _ o _ t _ _ _ _ _ o _ t _ _ _ _ _ i


Notice anything? :)


"He's a Monday morning lunatic, disturbed from time to time..."


I don't know what exactly it means, but it seems we're getting closer!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Too precise to be a coincidence. Phew, you're smart. And to all those who contribute as well: kuddos to you!

B.Lee

Edit : new Freddy Jacobi tweet : "Does Class matter?" Don't know what to do with it yet.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on July 29, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
We figured it out.  ::)

The password for https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/1-20/ is OAWTGSAL, the first letter of each track of 6doit (highlight to reveal).
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on July 29, 2018, 03:04:51 PM
We figured it out.  ::)

The password for https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/1-20/ is OAWTGSAL, the first letter of each track of 6doit (highlight to reveal).

How you got there?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on July 29, 2018, 03:11:25 PM
The URL is in Jacobi's profile.

For the password, we tried POWER randomly and this is how we found the class=1 feature. Then we tried words similar to POWER, and others, and landed on OWNER, which starts with O and started with class=1 for the first letter (H). From there, we found OA. Then someone somehow figured out the rest. Not sure how. Just an educated guess I believe, based on the source of the quote which were pretty sure of by that point.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on July 29, 2018, 03:14:03 PM
Great work!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 29, 2018, 03:37:22 PM
So, the new letter we just got is an “R”, which means the “Hidden by Design” guess is most likely incorrect  :-[
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Yesmaestro on July 29, 2018, 06:17:25 PM
I've got a headache just reading the posts lol   :o
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on July 30, 2018, 12:25:33 AM
So, the new letter we just got is an “R”, which means the “Hidden by Design” guess is most likely incorrect  :-[

it was fun while it lasted
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 30, 2018, 02:10:55 AM
Probably not that important right now, but:
What do you guys reckon?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/473393216016613376/Puzzles_3_and_2_letters_Y_and_S.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/473393180239200256/Puzzles_1_and_4_letters_D_and_R.jpg)

* Could that be relevant to the last puzzle/password? It certainly has 16 letters.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 30, 2018, 02:12:58 AM
Probably not that important right now, but:
  • The picture for puzzle #1 goes next to the one from puzzle #4.
  • The one from puzzle #3 goes next to the one from puzzle #2. (In that order)
  • The second pair of pictures shows the ceiling and cymbals, so that probably goes right at the top in the bigger picture*. It certainly goes to the left of the first pair, and one or 2 lines above it.
  • The letters we have so far are 'D', 'R', 'Y' and 'S'. Maybe the letters for the 15 (or 16) pictures form the band's name and album title? (That would mean a very short title, including 'Y' and 'S'. Like 'Yes'!)
What do you guys reckon?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/473393216016613376/Puzzles_3_and_2_letters_Y_and_S.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/473393180239200256/Puzzles_1_and_4_letters_D_and_R.jpg)

I call it now,
the album title has the word "Syndrome" in it :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on July 30, 2018, 02:22:18 AM
Bonus track: a cover of Stockholm Syndrome by Muse.






























Again.

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 30, 2018, 02:39:15 AM
Again.

 :biggrin:
Haha!  :lol
Or the one by blink-182: https://youtu.be/Y5AH6g0ku9k
(That's actually a pretty cool song! It's on their self-titled album - the closest they ever got to prog.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on July 30, 2018, 02:42:01 AM
Bonus track: a cover of Stockholm Syndrome by Muse.

Again.

 :biggrin:


I can never get enough of this comparison.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 30, 2018, 06:59:59 AM
Probably not that important right now, but:
  • The picture for puzzle #1 goes next to the one from puzzle #4.
  • The one from puzzle #3 goes next to the one from puzzle #2. (In that order)
  • The second pair of pictures shows the ceiling and cymbals, so that probably goes right at the top in the bigger picture*. It certainly goes to the left of the first pair, and one or 2 lines above it.
  • The letters we have so far are 'D', 'R', 'Y' and 'S'. Maybe the letters for the 15 (or 16) pictures form the band's name and album title? (That would mean a very short title, including 'Y' and 'S'. Like 'Yes'!)
What do you guys reckon?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/473393216016613376/Puzzles_3_and_2_letters_Y_and_S.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/473393180239200256/Puzzles_1_and_4_letters_D_and_R.jpg)

* Could that be relevant to the last puzzle/password? It certainly has 16 letters.

Yikes!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 30, 2018, 09:29:47 AM
Yikes!
What is it?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 30, 2018, 11:02:19 AM
Yikes!
What is it?

I think it was gzarruk's attempt at guessing the name of the new album given your hint "y ans s" and short word.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 30, 2018, 11:20:39 AM
I think it was gzarruk's attempt at guessing the name of the new album given your hint "y ans s" and short word.

B.Lee

Oh! :biggrin: That would be a fun title!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on July 30, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
You know what does have the letters D R, S and Y in it?

Daryus.[/i]

The Astonishing 2: NOMAC Boogaloo confirmed
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on July 30, 2018, 02:35:48 PM
I think it was gzarruk's attempt at guessing the name of the new album given your hint "y ans s" and short word.

B.Lee

Oh! :biggrin: That would be a fun title!

Indeed!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on July 30, 2018, 02:36:53 PM
Haha. The news articles would actually sound like that they don't like DT.

"Dream Theater release new album: YIKES!"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on July 30, 2018, 02:51:31 PM
Haha. The news articles would actually sound like that they don't like DT.

"Dream Theater release new album: YIKES!"

 :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on July 30, 2018, 03:37:47 PM
What do all these hokey characters mean?  I don't even understand what I'm seeing so as to interpret how the characters are changing.  Makes no sense at all to me.
The 1st letter of whatever you input changes every character in the output starting from the 1st. If you input a 2nd letter, it changes every character in the output starting from the 2nd, and so on.

Some of the guys at the Discord are working on some html aspect of the characters. Another way of working through this would be to see what 1st letters in the password give a suitable 1st letter in the output. (That's why I'm thinking "A", "B", "C" and "F" are not appropriate) Then, which 2nd letter gives a suitable pair of 1st/2nd letters in the output, and so on.

Previous passwords have been DT songs, so this new one could be as well.

Thanks for the explanation, I guess, but none of this made any sense to me.  Glad you all figured it out.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 30, 2018, 04:20:49 PM
Thanks for the explanation, I guess, but none of this made any sense to me.  Glad you all figured it out.
Sorry! I was going to suggest you give it a go, but it seems the website (https://37311319.com/) no longer lets you play the game. Oh well.

EDIT: Nevermind - you're able to check it out for yourself again now!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on August 03, 2018, 10:08:01 AM
(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/730E2F05-3366-4F57-BC66-484CD1217734_zpskhjinm24.png) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/730E2F05-3366-4F57-BC66-484CD1217734_zpskhjinm24.png.html)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 03, 2018, 10:11:39 AM
The last one says https:/ so we probably need to get a url out of the drum channels? :huh:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on August 03, 2018, 10:19:32 AM
One says Twizzler 5.5 I don’t know what a Twizzler in music production means
The gray control says bus 1-2
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on August 03, 2018, 10:42:15 AM
https://is.gd is a URL shortener site. Perhaps we just need the rest of the address. I’ve no time now, but we could try adding D1 etc to the address to see what happens. If we get the right code we should be redirected to the “proper” site.

e.g https://is.gd/WzFWtC takes you to https://www.google.com
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Logain Ablar on August 03, 2018, 10:48:52 AM
Looks like it could be: https://is.gd/cxSFvd

Takes you to a vailrenovations page.

If you enter https://is.gd/cxSFvd as the password, you get to a page that says “Well well well. Where do we go from here?”
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 03, 2018, 10:55:15 AM
So this clue leads to nowhere? :huh:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on August 03, 2018, 10:59:24 AM
Looks like it could be: https://is.gd/cxSFvd

Takes you to a vailrenovations page.

If you enter https://is.gd/cxSFvd as the password, you get to a page that says “Well well well. Where do we go from here?”

Could the Well x 3 means another URL? Like www. And the where do we go from here the rest of the URL?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on August 03, 2018, 11:05:48 AM
Looks like it could be: https://is.gd/cxSFvd

Takes you to a vailrenovations page.

If you enter https://is.gd/cxSFvd as the password, you get to a page that says “Well well well. Where do we go from here?”

Could the Well x 3 means another URL? Like www. And the where do we go from here the rest of the URL?


Remember the first puzzle?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 03, 2018, 11:07:39 AM
Looks like it could be: https://is.gd/cxSFvd

Takes you to a vailrenovations page.

If you enter https://is.gd/cxSFvd as the password, you get to a page that says “Well well well. Where do we go from here?”

Could the Well x 3 means another URL? Like www. And the where do we go from here the rest of the URL?
Below the "well well well" message, there is a clickable point. You can see it by highlighting the text.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: russoc4 on August 03, 2018, 11:16:58 AM
We solved this one on the Discord pretty quickly. I won't spoil it here so soon in case some of you guys are not on the Discord with us, and if you want to try it on your own. It's a fun one.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on August 03, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
https://159.65.85.240/puzzle.php  :justjen
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on August 03, 2018, 11:35:19 AM
I think this weeks puzzle can be enjoyed by everyone without spoiling, as it's not technical. Have a look, and see if you manage to solve the trivia.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Hyrul on August 03, 2018, 11:42:45 AM
This one was quick, but fun ! I like how the quizz was really DT-related.
Looking forward to next week.

Also, if anyone lost track about what happened this week, or last week etc, there's still a google doc that sums it all up.
Here it is.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/edit#
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 03, 2018, 12:02:22 PM
Notice, also, that the header of the puzzle says "Freddy Jacobi's Great Quiz #1".

Looks like there will be at least one more of those!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on August 03, 2018, 01:41:02 PM
That was fun puzzle this week Freddy! For the first time I was able to solve this one with just a little help  :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 09, 2018, 07:35:29 AM
Hello all, newbie here. Have any clues dropped for the "Scenes from a Memory" challenge yet?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on August 09, 2018, 09:52:41 AM
Hello all, newbie here. Have any clues dropped for the "Scenes from a Memory" challenge yet?

Not yet, Freddy usually posts new clues in his Twitter page: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi (except for the last one that was posted on DT's official Instagram account)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 09, 2018, 10:24:21 AM
Hello all, newbie here. Have any clues dropped for the "Scenes from a Memory" challenge yet?
Not yet, Freddy usually posts new clues in his Twitter page: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi (except for the last one that was posted on DT's official Instagram account)

Two hours ago, the Facebook page of DTWorld re-posted a video of JP's Guitar Universe (https://www.facebook.com/TheDreamTheaterWorld/posts/2131108256964504) with the following comment:

Quote
While pretty much all of you are busy treasure hunting (right?), there's something brewing up in Long Island, at John Petrucci’s Guitar Universe

I checked every other relevant web-site/social network for the "Treasure Hunt", and couldn't find any clue. So maybe the video/comment is the closest to a hint right now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 09, 2018, 11:46:10 AM
I haven't seen anything posted either. Maybe we need to start looking somewhere else?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 09, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
I haven't seen anything posted either. Maybe we need to start looking somewhere else?
Just in case, I checked JP's Guitar Universe website and Facebook page. I don't think I found anything relevant.
Maybe another clue will emerge tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: metropofreak on August 10, 2018, 11:03:50 AM
Freddy just posted "in the Presence of enemies" and "a rite of Passage" on his Twitter account. Notice both P's are capitalised.

He also retweeted the video of Mangini drumming.

https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: nattmorker on August 10, 2018, 11:30:57 AM
He also tweeted

pull me under                         (non capitalized 'p')
disaPPear                              (double capitalized 'p')

Could they be related to the musical terms Piano and Pianissimo? although that doesn't explain the distinction between 'p' and 'P'.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: metropofreak on August 10, 2018, 11:40:26 AM
It looks like from the other tweets "metroPolis" and "peruvian skies", that P is only capitalised if it is not at the beginning of the first word.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on August 10, 2018, 12:53:44 PM
So, we've got:

in the Presence of enemies
Re-tweet of the Mangini video (3-7-3-11-3-19)
a rite of Passage
pull me under
disaPPear
metroPolis
peruvian skies
proPhets of war

The 37311319.com web site directed me back to google.com.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: theanalogkid7 on August 10, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
https://37311319.com/p/
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 10, 2018, 02:59:16 PM
Hey I think I beat the puzzle. It's already in the google drive, but nothing happens except it says "GAME ENDED" ... I'm trying to attach an image of the pattern but don't see an attach image button!

Looks like it says:

ZIP      v (down arrow)
101   123
103   015
117   012
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on August 10, 2018, 03:07:06 PM
Hey I think I beat the puzzle. It's already in the google drive, but nothing happens except it says "GAME ENDED" ... I'm trying to attach an image of the pattern but don't see an attach image button!

Looks like it says:

ZIP      v (down arrow)
101   123
103   015
117   012

Don't know if this is significant but the down arrow lines up on the 1 0 0 column.

Back in the day Iomega made a "zip 100" drive.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Elite on August 10, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
I'm trying to attach an image of the pattern but don't see an attach image button!

You can’t ‘attach’ an image, you have to link to it using this format:

[img] https://*insert location of image here* [/ img]
(remove the space in the square brackets before ‘img’)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on August 10, 2018, 07:47:34 PM
If we zip the numbers and interpret them as octal ascii, we get ACOS\r\n. The \r\n is a Windows line ending. ACOS = A Change Of Seasons?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on August 11, 2018, 02:31:13 PM
So, has anyone solved this puzzle? I got to in the middle of puzzle but then I surrended. If somebody has more free time than me, please put the right answer here. I didn't saw logic (bigger picture) in the black dots.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 11, 2018, 03:16:06 PM
So, has anyone solved this puzzle? I got to in the middle of puzzle but then I surrended. If somebody has more free time than me, please put the right answer here. I didn't saw logic (bigger picture) in the black dots.
You mean the "Caught in a Web" Picross that was posted yesterday? Someone has already posted the answer in this thread. If you want me to, I can give you a few tips on how to solve this kind of puzzles. (It's similar to Sudokus)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on August 12, 2018, 01:12:40 AM
So, has anyone solved this puzzle? I got to in the middle of puzzle but then I surrended. If somebody has more free time than me, please put the right answer here. I didn't saw logic (bigger picture) in the black dots.
You mean the "Caught in a Web" Picross that was posted yesterday? Someone has already posted the answer in this thread. If you want me to, I can give you a few tips on how to solve this kind of puzzles. (It's similar to Sudokus)

Oh okay, I didn't understand it was solved already.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 12, 2018, 07:48:01 AM
Oh okay, I didn't understand it was solved already.
No problem. We're still trying to figure out what to do next, so if you have any idea, you're welcome here:
https://discordapp.com/channels/285051699717210113/467246922265001986
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 12, 2018, 01:34:45 PM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1028721763369271296

"Somewhere, there's a file. Wonder where it is."

MeToo.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 12, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
He tweeted this a few minutes later. Kind of confirms Blake's post. ('ACOS \r\n')
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkbGsGLWwAEOl40.jpg)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on August 12, 2018, 03:38:50 PM
The ASCII table tweet seems to confirm that ACOS\r\n is the secret message in the picross. So it seems that we need to get a file name out of that. One idea I've been toying with is that the pattern of capital and lowercase P's in Freddy's tweets may give us the capitalization of the file name--the path part of a URL is case-sensitive. If we use the common symbols CR and LF for \r and \n, we get 8 letters, ACOSCRLF. There are 9 P's, but 8 come after the MM video retweet. Those have the pattern PpPPPppP. So the file name could have something like AcOSCrlF in in. Or it could be a bunch of subdirectories, broken down by tweet, e.g. A/c/OS/C/r/lF. I haven't found anything that works yet, though.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on August 13, 2018, 12:48:58 AM
Freddy tweeted
 
Quote
Carriagereturn

Quote
Newline

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: borzo on August 13, 2018, 01:18:39 AM
holy shit guys I just read the google doc
well done, keep up the good work and document everything!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on August 13, 2018, 09:23:28 AM
Freddy tweeted again:

p/somereallylongname

I guess it means that the URL should be based on the game's URL:

https://37311319.com/p/somereallylongname
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 13, 2018, 10:12:07 AM
So, somebody from Discord discovered the downloadable ZIP to be at 37311319.com/p/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip.
Inside it, there's an mp3 called 'soundfile', but we need a password.
 :huh:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 13, 2018, 11:39:35 AM
So, somebody from Discord discovered the downloadable ZIP to be at 37311319.com/p/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip.
Inside it, there's an mp3 called 'soundfile', but we need a password.
 :huh:
Is the password something to do with all the P's? Or perhaps the ACOS r/n thing we had figure out? Or is it another clue that has yet to be revealed?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 13, 2018, 11:46:39 AM
So, somebody from Discord discovered the downloadable ZIP to be at 37311319.com/p/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip.
Inside it, there's an mp3 called 'soundfile', but we need a password.
 :huh:
Is the password something to do with all the P's? Or perhaps the ACOS r/n thing we had figure out? Or is it another clue that has yet to be revealed?
Blake figured out that, when you type "octalvarium" as password, the error is unique and different from the errors produced by different passwords. Probably "octalvarium" is a clue, but the file isn't.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Blake on August 13, 2018, 04:44:16 PM
So, somebody from Discord discovered the downloadable ZIP to be at 37311319.com/p/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip.
Inside it, there's an mp3 called 'soundfile', but we need a password.
 :huh:
Is the password something to do with all the P's? Or perhaps the ACOS r/n thing we had figure out? Or is it another clue that has yet to be revealed?
Blake figured out that, when you type "octalvarium" as password, the error is unique and different from the errors produced by different passwords. Probably "octalvarium" is a clue, but the file isn't.

Elaborating on that, here's what happens when I try to unzip with a variety of random passwords:

Code: [Select]
blake@bfdesktop ~ $ unzip ~/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip
Archive:  /home/blake/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip
[/home/blake/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip] soundfile.mp3 password:
password incorrect--reenter:
password incorrect--reenter:
   skipping: soundfile.mp3           incorrect password

Here's what happens when I try octalvarium:

Code: [Select]
blake@bfdesktop ~ $ unzip ~/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip
Archive:  /home/blake/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip
[/home/blake/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip] soundfile.mp3 password:
  inflating: soundfile.mp3           
  error:  invalid compressed data to inflate

However, from the man page for unzip (`man unzip`):

Code: [Select]
The correct password will always check out against the header, but there is a 1-in-256 chance that an incorrect password will as well.  (This is a security feature of the PKWARE zipfile format; it helps  prevent
       brute-force  attacks  that  might  otherwise  gain  a  large speed advantage by testing only the header.)  In the case that an incorrect password is given but it passes the header test anyway, either an incorrect CRC will be generated for the extracted data or else unzip will fail during the extraction
       because the ``decrypted'' bytes do not constitute a valid compressed data stream.

So there's a 1 in 256 chance that a random password will generate check out against the header. It is quite a coincidence, though.

Also, the file seems way too small to contain a legit audio file:

Code: [Select]
blake@bfdesktop ~ $ unzip -v ~/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip
Archive:  /home/blake/Downloads/acoscarriagereturnnewline.zip
 Length   Method    Size  Cmpr    Date    Time   CRC-32   Name
--------  ------  ------- ---- ---------- ----- --------  ----
      81  Defl:N       78   4% 2018-08-08 15:25 224d3f03  soundfile.mp3
--------          -------  ---                            -------
      81               78   4%                            1 file

It's only 282 bytes, and it has a compression ratio of only 4%. So it does seem plausible that there isn't any valid data in there, and the goal is just to find a password that checks out.

There is the question of why, though--why give us something that just validates a password instead of a place to enter it. It's also possible that it's a text file in disguise or something.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: nattmorker on August 13, 2018, 04:54:03 PM

There is the question of why, though--why give us something that just validates a password instead of a place to enter it. It's also possible that it's a text file in disguise or something.

That's what i was going to suggest, i think it should actually be a text file.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 14, 2018, 01:57:58 AM
Oh, God! : :facepalm:

The password was the octal numbers ('101 ... '012') with spaces in between.

The text from the .mp3 has a link to a new video, and the final URL where to write the password.

And, the last bit (deciphering what Jordan's playing in the video) took someone's girlfriend on Discord a couple of minutes.

And this is just puzzle #6!  :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on August 14, 2018, 10:23:17 AM
The letters so far:

_ Y S _ _ _ _ _ _ D R _ R _ F
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: CDrice on August 14, 2018, 11:04:13 AM
The letters so far:

_ Y S _ _ _ _ _ _ D R _ R _ F

If it is not simply a random assortement of letters, then I may have a few possible ideas of what letters make up the first half. I'm just not sure if I should say anything in the case any of them are actually right  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on August 14, 2018, 01:20:20 PM
The letters so far:

_ Y S _ _ _ _ _ _ D R _ R _ F

How do we know if these are in the correct places?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on August 15, 2018, 11:19:23 AM
Freddy tweeted yesterday:  "The answer is right in front of you.  You have already seen it.  Just enter what you already found, with spaces in between.  I only hide these things so you won't find them by coincidence."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 15, 2018, 12:48:04 PM
Freddy tweeted yesterday:  "The answer is right in front of you.  You have already seen it.  Just enter what you already found, with spaces in between.  I only hide these things so you won't find them by coincidence."
isn't this in reference to the zip file password from the most recent challenge?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 15, 2018, 12:49:17 PM
The letters so far:

_ Y S _ _ _ _ _ _ D R _ R _ F

How do we know if these are in the correct places?

Because every time someone solves a puzzle we get another pic of the studio, each containing a letter. If you look closely, all of them are part of the bigger picture (shed your light on me, anyone?). So each letter has it’s own place in the big picture. It’s all on that Google Drive doc  :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 15, 2018, 01:50:55 PM
Because every time someone solves a puzzle we get another pic of the studio, each containing a letter. If you look closely, all of them are part of the bigger picture (shed your light on me, anyone?). So each letter has it’s own place in the big picture. It’s all on that Google Drive doc  :tup
I think they meant "correct order". In other words - the phrase could start with 'D' (which is the letter from puzzle #1). Or, it might be an anagram.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on August 15, 2018, 01:52:18 PM
The letters so far:

_ Y S _ _ _ _ _ _ D R _ R _ F

How do we know if these are in the correct places?

Because every time someone solves a puzzle we get another pic of the studio, each containing a letter. If you look closely, all of them are part of the bigger picture (shed your light on me, anyone?). So each letter has it’s own place in the big picture. It’s all on that Google Drive doc  :tup
But that doesn't necessarily mean that is the order of the letters.  Maybe we need to figure out the order after we get them all?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: theanalogkid7 on August 17, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
Newest Puzzle posted:

1.

00774740328253991240586868530042
00470036003300003300002600007799
26129999007700008499420040753700
00120099379940000000992399000000


2.

00680005000000008268580033005300
00120000774782530000120040003700
00008400000000338282330068004782
00266812992399120000370082008200

3.

77338200820000750005334040334699
00120036992658008433367500820082
18000000770018000040004700466853
33008433370037000058189900990036

4.

40583312000000530000334000369999
00003699580058680068820047400040
33363600000000844782530047000040
00004000841899820099004047760000
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 17, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
Newest Puzzle posted:

1.

00774740328253991240586868530042
00470036003300003300002600007799
26129999007700008499420040753700
00120099379940000000992399000000


2.

00680005000000008268580033005300
00120000774782530000120040003700
00008400000000338282330068004782
00266812992399120000370082008200

3.

77338200820000750005334040334699
00120036992658008433367500820082
18000000770018000040004700466853
33008433370037000058189900990036

4.

40583312000000530000334000369999
00003699580058680068820047400040
33363600000000844782530047000040
00004000841899820099004047760000
WOW. Looks like we'll probably be using the code key from the previous challenge with the letters decoded in different coding formats?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 17, 2018, 07:07:02 PM
When you form a column with every line (in the order they appear), you get a square of 32 by 16 digits. If you consider each successive pair of digits as one number, the square is made up of 16 by 16 numbers. Delete each '00' out of those pairs, and you get the same configuration as the crosswords Freddy posted on Imgur (https://imgur.com/gallery/Fp7VFPi):

(https://i.imgur.com/mFoMjeq.png)

The longest word (horizontal, on the first line) is 13 letters long. The numbers corresponding to those squares are:
77 47 40 32 82 53 99 12 40 58 68 68 53

The italicized, underlined and bolded numbers are repeated. Since "Misunderstood" is 13 letters long, and the repeated letters occupy the same places as the repeated numbers, you can fit that word on that line of 13 squares.

You can continue to look for patterns, or simply start replacing numbers with letters until you fill in all squares. The crossword ends up consisting entirely of words from DT's song-titles. (There's even "Raw". :metal)

Joining the 15 blue squares, you get IWalkBesideYou, plus and extra 'B'. The latter is either part of the password, or just a cool nugget (since most of "I Walk Beside You" is in the key of Bm)

The next step is to understand the meaning or use of the 10 squares which include a small symbol on their upper-left corner. Those symbols are:
It's hard to determine which is the square with the "5", the "6" and the remaining symbol. In any event, those are:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 18, 2018, 02:08:27 PM
Don't think we've discussed this here, but puzzles 5 and 6 were titled Falling Into Infinity and we know this wasn't a mistake, so this should be a clue for something else? Also, assuming the current one is the SFAM one, puzzle 16 should be the new album title?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 18, 2018, 03:43:22 PM
Don't think we've discussed this here, but puzzles 5 and 6 were titled Falling Into Infinity and we know this wasn't a mistake, so this should be a clue for something else? Also, assuming the current one is the SFAM one, puzzle 16 should be the new album title?
No idea about puzzle #6. As you said: doesn't seem to be a mistake. Maybe it'll be important, or maybe it's simply an inner joke (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1029377767509565442).

By the way, the current one is 'SFaM' - it has already been solved, and that is its title.

As for puzzle #16: I think so. Keep in mind:

PD: No entiendo por qué no hablamos en español. :P Después de todo, ví que sos de Perú, y yo soy de Argentina.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 18, 2018, 10:03:43 PM
Didn’t know it was already solved. You guys are fast! :lol
Just 9 puzzles to go, folks!

No he visto muchos sudamericanos por aquí, se siente extraño hablar en español en DTF ;D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 19, 2018, 10:30:49 AM
I'm very puzzled & curious at the Falling Into Infinity pt. 1 and 2 for challenge names. The rest of the album names fit into the number challenges left, but I wonder, of ALL the albums to have pt. 1 & 2, why Falling into Infinity?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on August 19, 2018, 10:36:19 AM
I'm very puzzled & curious at the Falling Into Infinity pt. 1 and 2 for challenge names. The rest of the album names fit into the number challenges left, but I wonder, of ALL the albums to have pt. 1 & 2, why Falling into Infinity?

Maybe because it was intended originally to be a double album? hehe
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on August 19, 2018, 11:16:47 AM
No he visto muchos sudamericanos por aquí, se siente extraño hablar en español en DTF ;D

I'm from Brazil, so I get what you mean xD
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on August 19, 2018, 01:02:27 PM
Didn’t know it was already solved. You guys are fast! :lol
Just 9 puzzles to go, folks!

No he visto muchos sudamericanos por aquí, se siente extraño hablar en español en DTF ;D

Vives en Lima o en provincia?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on August 19, 2018, 01:06:46 PM
Sul-americanos, uni-vos! :metal :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 19, 2018, 02:06:05 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: the keyboard wizard on August 19, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
For the French speaking members of DTF who are more comfortable reading French, here are the results of the treasure hunt in French (thanks Hyrul, Max and Blake for the document btw) :
https://blog.yourmajesty.net/2018/07/17/la-chasse-au-tresor/
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 19, 2018, 09:15:00 PM
¡Oh! Yo también redacté un documento en español (con links e imágenes) sobre la búsqueda del tesoro. Si algún otro fan sudamericano lo quiere tener, escríbanme un e-mail (sebastianpratesi@gmail.com) y se lo envío con todo gusto.  ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on August 20, 2018, 01:00:15 AM
I'm very puzzled & curious at the Falling Into Infinity pt. 1 and 2 for challenge names. The rest of the album names fit into the number challenges left, but I wonder, of ALL the albums to have pt. 1 & 2, why Falling into Infinity?

Maybe because it was intended originally to be a double album? hehe

Or maybe..
Just maybe..

























DT14 is "Falling Into infinity: To Infinity And Beyond"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 20, 2018, 07:47:55 AM
I'm very puzzled & curious at the Falling Into Infinity pt. 1 and 2 for challenge names. The rest of the album names fit into the number challenges left, but I wonder, of ALL the albums to have pt. 1 & 2, why Falling into Infinity?

Maybe because it was intended originally to be a double album? hehe

Or maybe..
Just maybe..

























DT14 is "Falling Into infinity: To Infinity And Beyond"
... how do I delete someone else's comment?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: liran95 on August 20, 2018, 07:52:27 AM
I'm very puzzled & curious at the Falling Into Infinity pt. 1 and 2 for challenge names. The rest of the album names fit into the number challenges left, but I wonder, of ALL the albums to have pt. 1 & 2, why Falling into Infinity?

Maybe because it was intended originally to be a double album? hehe

Or maybe..
Just maybe..

























DT14 is "Falling Into infinity: To Infinity And Beyond"
... how do I delete someone else's comment?


 :hat
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 20, 2018, 10:42:25 AM
Hello. I am one of the guys in the G-Doc crew. Thanks to thekeyboardwizard for mentioning my contributions. (I'm flattered.) The O from puzzle 7 is at position 9 in the master puzzle code by the way, according to what we know by now anyway. (it will help us all leading up to the final puzzle I think)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 20, 2018, 11:24:48 AM
I'm very puzzled & curious at the Falling Into Infinity pt. 1 and 2 for challenge names. The rest of the album names fit into the number challenges left, but I wonder, of ALL the albums to have pt. 1 & 2, why Falling into Infinity?

Maybe because it was intended originally to be a double album? hehe
That would be my reasoning as well (and to keep us on our toes as well I would think)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SwedishGoose on August 20, 2018, 11:38:46 AM
---- snip ------
I'm very puzzled & curious at the Falling Into Infinity pt. 1 and 2 for challenge names. The rest of the album names fit into the number challenges left, but I wonder, of ALL the albums to have pt. 1 & 2, why Falling into Infinity?
---- snip ------
Maybe..
Just maybe..

























DT14 is "Falling Into infinity: To Infinity And Beyond"
... how do I delete someone else's comment?

Something like that?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nekov on August 21, 2018, 07:09:43 AM
Sul-americanos, uni-vos! :metal :metal

 :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 23, 2018, 04:19:33 AM
in case anyone is interested: here is the current picture progress chart. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S0TxEVmIlkI5EVDRuJ5nLaLpA09ngcT8G6N2bQ_HgqE/edit#gid=437004778 It has been updated with fragments 6 and 7 as well. Puzzle 8 will likely begin tomorrow.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on August 23, 2018, 05:17:42 AM
in case anyone is interested: here is the current picture progress chart. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S0TxEVmIlkI5EVDRuJ5nLaLpA09ngcT8G6N2bQ_HgqE/edit#gid=437004778 It has been updated with fragments 6 and 7 as well. Puzzle 8 will likely begin tomorrow.

Thanks, Max. The middle-aged bloke that I am appreciates that.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 23, 2018, 06:42:12 AM
the first clue for puzzle 8 came in just now: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032562534266675200
Please note the following: (bolded for you)

"Nine by nine, symbols hidden by design. Divide in style, and you’ll be good for a while. Solve one to solve another and you soon will have won. Subtract the extra ponies to identify the phonies. Then the master key is needed for the final song..."

Another Won was one of the earliest DT pieces in 1985 and you'll find the master key on the GDoc (will of course be updated once we know more). Divide may refer to The Path That Divides and the ponies may refer to When Your Time Has Come. That's all I could extrapolate for now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 23, 2018, 05:07:32 PM
New tweets by Freddy:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 24, 2018, 05:42:07 AM
Next tweet for puzzle 8: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032949666466410496

"Letters big and small, hidden where you have seen it all. Hard to read but gives the location - this backwardation information figuration is desperation. Keep your eyes up for the password puzzle for which you wait in anticipation."
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on August 24, 2018, 09:56:00 AM
New update :

 
@FreddyJacobi
003fCU00jFn00hlai004BGd0eWDkm0000000xraD7009Ctqo0006MxXr0vMN06ySP
Z0iwlE00XQr072yUb000XqHSw00kik03fuc00009sgglo00080Aht0001VkJ06000000t
eVt0000000vzP500800qbj0403pY35647
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 24, 2018, 10:45:47 AM
OK, so - apparently, there are 2 puzzles to solve this weekend. One is called "Door", and the other "Key".
(According to this: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1033024008462192640)

To solve the "Door" puzzle:
-"Letters big and small..." (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032949666466410496)
-"Look in the mirror my friend" (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032756883386494976)
-"There's a girl in the mirror" (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032756928907227137)
-"So excited!" + video link (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032763425628274689)

To solve the "Key" puzzle:
-"Nine by nine..." (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032562534266675200)
-A string of 167 characters (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1033016684553162753)

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 24, 2018, 11:02:50 AM
I just added your summary on to our Google doc. Thank you very much, Sebastian. Much appreciated.
Meanwhile, look at this next Tweet: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1033053925899939840
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on August 24, 2018, 02:58:45 PM
The DT World Fb page posted a new clue. Apparently, the paper on the table has something to do with the current puzzle: https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheater/videos/vb.7677942180/532840363804427/?type=2&theater
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 24, 2018, 03:07:09 PM
Added to the Gdoc already. Thanks for mentioning. (I didn't see it right away)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ddtonfire on August 24, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
Looks like something similar in this pic JP just posted - look on the computer screen:

https://scontent.fphx1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40027870_2111733325545335_4171261569176436736_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=2b2bac807a547aee7c02c15e341f88dc&oe=5BF4EBC6
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jammindude on August 24, 2018, 04:53:26 PM
OK, so - apparently, there are 2 puzzles to solve this weekend. One is called "Door", and the other "Key".
(According to this: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1033024008462192640)

To solve the "Door" puzzle:
-"Letters big and small..." (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032949666466410496)
-"Look in the mirror my friend" (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032756883386494976)
-"There's a girl in the mirror" (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032756928907227137)
-"So excited!" + video link (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032763425628274689)

To solve the "Key" puzzle:
-"Nine by nine..." (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1032562534266675200)
-A string of 167 characters (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1033016684553162753)

We will call this the dorky puzzle.    :angel:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on August 24, 2018, 05:11:23 PM
Looks like something similar in this pic JP just posted - look on the computer screen:

https://scontent.fphx1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40027870_2111733325545335_4171261569176436736_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=2b2bac807a547aee7c02c15e341f88dc&oe=5BF4EBC6
I saw this picture too! I figured there must be a clue because the computer screen resembled the layout of the 'puzzle picture'... also, Mike Portnoy's comment on this...  :eek :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on August 24, 2018, 05:21:03 PM
(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/DBF8FDA2-4DB7-44D9-B9D8-1C989B80C0BD_zpsvaqnklo8.jpg) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/DBF8FDA2-4DB7-44D9-B9D8-1C989B80C0BD_zpsvaqnklo8.jpg.html)

MP comment

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There are numbers on that grid on the screen
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ddtonfire on August 24, 2018, 05:23:49 PM
I think they're letters. Pretty tough to make out. This is my wild guess:

m   ?  l?
n   o    ?
b   T   z?
u  G   N
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on August 24, 2018, 06:13:22 PM
You are correct, I watched the image again on the laptop and those are definitely letters
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 24, 2018, 07:28:00 PM
I just added your summary on to our Google doc. Thank you very much, Sebastian. Much appreciated.
Meanwhile, look at this next Tweet: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1033053925899939840
No problem! :)
By the way, I've been on Discord with a couple other guys, working through the puzzles.

The "Key" puzzle is solved when you take the code Freddy tweeted, and divide (i.e. separate) the numbers from the letters. If you make strings of 9, you get a square of 9x9 consisting of letters, and another 9x9 square of numbers (plus an extra 5 numbers at the end).

The numbers' square is a Sudoku - every 0 is a blank cell, so you have to complete it. Once you complete the Sudoku, and you remove every 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 (because those were the extra 5 numbers), you get a "structure". The same "structure" in the letters' square ends up being this:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/482689068577325068/81_letters.jpg)
Now, I'm not sure we're doing it right. But, a certain someone gave the image (posted by yours truly on the Discord chat-room) a thumbs-up :tup. Therefore, that looks to be one way to approach the rest of the puzzle.

I think they're letters. Pretty tough to make out. This is my wild guess:

m   ?  l?
n   o    ?
b   T   z?
u  G   N

That's cool! Would you mind if I posted that on the Discord chat-room? So far, we haven't worked on that puzzle, so your findings will be useful. Thanks! ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ddtonfire on August 24, 2018, 07:29:27 PM
Heck yeah, go for it!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 24, 2018, 07:31:48 PM
Heck yeah, go for it!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 25, 2018, 02:09:06 AM
Heck yeah, go for it!
I've just added this on to the Gdoc as well. Thank you.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 25, 2018, 08:53:02 AM
Solved.
We got a 'G'.

The "Lord Nafaryus Bug" hypothesis someone was considering can still be correct. :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 25, 2018, 08:56:25 AM
Would you mind adding it to the Gdoc then? Because I only collected the Tweets and mentioned a forum post of yours as of now. (for which I am grateful by the way)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 26, 2018, 12:32:45 AM
Would you mind adding it to the Gdoc then? Because I only collected the Tweets and mentioned a forum post of yours as of now. (for which I am grateful by the way)
I just wrote to you on Discord. I sent you (and Hyrul) the description of how the puzzle is/was solved.
Feel free to copy-paste or edit whatever you feel like for the Gdoc! ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 26, 2018, 03:13:04 AM
I just did that. We'll see how Hyrul decides to adapt it, but your input was and is a great help. Thank you. I couldn't do it on my own this time around, absoutely not.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 26, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
I find this treasure hunt interesting. Its like a elementary version of the cicada 3301 phenomenon.

I'm enjoying all your guys' hard work. Keep it up. I'm also amazed at how many intelligent people there are on here.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 26, 2018, 12:17:03 PM
I don't consider myself to be intelligent. That would be incredibly arrogant.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 26, 2018, 03:25:57 PM
In case it's interesting to someone else:

I just read the article Freddy linked in his last WordPress page (https://dellsystem.me/posts/sudoku-code).

Freddy's error, which he mentioned in one of his tweet (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1033342875248091136), was not such. He did the same thing as the example in the article:

I think this goes to show that, each time we thought (or he stated) he made a mistake, it was never the case.
(The other examples would be the extra "Falling Into Infinity", which he never corrected; and the "6=2" thing from last week.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 26, 2018, 03:43:17 PM
Good observation.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 26, 2018, 04:42:22 PM
Good observation.
Thank you!

Another thing I noticed:

'GRONSFELDCYPHER' is 15 letters long, and the picture pieces contain the bolded letters.

  :o
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on August 26, 2018, 09:25:35 PM
I can’t find the gdoc
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 26, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
I can’t find the gdoc
Here you go:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s
 ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 27, 2018, 02:25:37 AM
Good observation.
Thank you!

Another thing I noticed:

'GRONSFELDCYPHER' is 15 letters long, and the picture pieces contain the bolded letters.

  :o
although Cipher would be correct. Close enough though.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on August 27, 2018, 02:37:12 AM
Good observation.
Thank you!

Another thing I noticed:

'GRONSFELDCYPHER' is 15 letters long, and the picture pieces contain the bolded letters.

  :o
although Cipher would be correct. Close enough though.

After a little bit of research, both are acceptable : cipher is more American English, cypher is more British English. So, it may be acceptable?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 27, 2018, 02:45:42 AM
Oh Ok. Didn't know that. (Yousa point is well seen.) Sorry. Sebastian may be right concerning his observation (or not, depending on what the letter for puzzle 9 will be, but it's very well possible)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on August 27, 2018, 03:03:03 AM
All this sounds so Mangini... Maybe he's the master mind behind all this puzzle, given his rocket science and programming past history...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 27, 2018, 03:11:31 AM
Exactly this. It's likely anyway.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on August 27, 2018, 04:44:20 AM
All this sounds so Mangini... Maybe he's the master mind behind all this puzzle, given his rocket science and programming past history...

Oh, you might be right!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on August 27, 2018, 04:45:37 AM
Oh Ok. Didn't know that. (Yousa point is well seen.) Sorry. Sebastian may be right concerning his observation (or not, depending on what the letter for puzzle 9 will be, but it's very well possible)

No problem there, Bro! I didn't know that either before doing a little bit of research.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on August 31, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
From Freddy:

"The next puzzle is being delayed due to issues with one of the content platforms. Out of my hands."

https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1035560665455448065

 :sad:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on August 31, 2018, 11:59:53 AM
Game's true intent needs patience. (Karma starts the signal)  ;D
Edit: Puzzle 9 is rolling now. See this tweet: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1035633840788844545 and this Reddit post for clues: https://www.reddit.com/user/FreddyJacobi/comments/9bxeio/rince_and_repeat/
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on September 01, 2018, 06:18:26 AM
From Freddy's latest video on Twitter, the first thing I though of was the 80's movie "War Games" when I saw the makeshift WOPR label.  There are quite a few nuggets on hacking, since that was a major theme of the movie.  They ended up discovering that the password was "Joshua" which was the son of an AI researcher.  Ha, some early 80's social engineering.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 01, 2018, 06:22:14 AM
OK.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 01, 2018, 06:52:49 AM
From Freddy's latest video on Twitter, the first thing I though of was the 80's movie "War Games" when I saw the makeshift WOPR label.  There are quite a few nuggets on hacking, since that was a major theme of the movie.  They ended up discovering that the password was "Joshua" which was the son of an AI researcher.  Ha, some early 80's social engineering.
So Joshua is the password for puzzle 9?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on September 01, 2018, 07:05:19 AM
From Freddy's latest video on Twitter, the first thing I though of was the 80's movie "War Games" when I saw the makeshift WOPR label.  There are quite a few nuggets on hacking, since that was a major theme of the movie.  They ended up discovering that the password was "Joshua" which was the son of an AI researcher.  Ha, some early 80's social engineering.
So Joshua is the password for puzzle 9?
:dunno:  maybe.  Something to try at least.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on September 01, 2018, 07:30:56 AM
..
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 01, 2018, 07:44:39 AM
..
haha good one. I'm amused. Well played.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 01, 2018, 07:49:00 AM
..
haha good one. I'm amused. Well played.

Max, I can't login to Discord right now. :-[ What are you guys up to?

I understand, from Freddy quoting my post, that we have to take the quiz once again, replacing the fifth answer with "ii", whatever that means. I tried "ii", "Finally Free", "James LaBrie", but nothing works, I think.

Did the patterns I found in the video mean something?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 01, 2018, 08:14:06 AM
I  know as much or as little as you. I'd tell you if I knew more. And I can't use Discord either right now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 01, 2018, 09:52:48 AM
I  know as much or as little as you. I'd tell you if I knew more. And I can't use Discord either right now.
OK, so: there's a 2nd quiz, which gives us a new URL, and the following message:

"Well done. Add the last two digits to the password."

The 2 digits are probably related to the WarGames, right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 01, 2018, 11:12:09 AM
Freddy replied to his video with "If only Bogie was here to help...".

As I haven't watched the movie, I don't know what the relevance of 'Bogie' might be. I did a quick search, and all I could find is:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 01, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Holy cow. What a cool puzzle this was! A cool twist at the end. :facepalm:

The new picture includes a 'T'. So much for 'GRONSFELDCYPHER' or 'LORDNAFARYUSBUG' being the master code.  :-[
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 01, 2018, 12:49:34 PM
How did you solve it? I definitely couldn't again. I think I must be stupid. If anyone likes to contribute to the Gdoc how you did it, please feel free by any means.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 01, 2018, 01:16:23 PM
How did you solve it? I definitely couldn't again. I think I must be stupid. If anyone likes to contribute to the Gdoc how you did it, please feel free by any means.
Yeah, I just offered Hyrul to send him a summary.  ;) I'll try to have it done by tonight.

I think the problem was that we had too much info around - 'WOPR', the lights, the 'code.jpg' picture, the phrase formed by the letters in the quiz, the 'minus the fifth, replace it by ii' bit, 'Bogie'... Some of that info was confusing at first, but then it all makes sense. I probably wouldn't have made any progress today if it hadn't been for some very smart people at Discord.

In short: each pair of lights in the Twitter video was morse code. We had to decrypt the message.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 01, 2018, 01:20:41 PM
Aaah right ok (Morse code and DT that's a thing in itself - Remember In The Name Of God?). No pressure though (not from me anyway) I think people should stop assuming that the master code will be a word or something else that's meaningful. Just a string of letters probably.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on September 01, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Sorry to distract from the real solution, I was just throwing stuff out there.  At least they mentioned "me" on the solution page - j/k.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on September 01, 2018, 02:52:23 PM
How on earth you could solve these so quickly?? Another thing which is strange that there were robwebster and some other guys who putted this treasure hunt on but all have disappeared somewhere. Now there's just few people here to solve these puzzles. I don't know how many people are on Discord, never really understood what place that even is. I hope more people could take part of this unique thing but I'mi sucker in these kind of things myself. I really love this idea of treasure hunt but you guys are just too good :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on September 01, 2018, 04:31:03 PM
Freddy replied to his video with "If only Bogie was here to help...".

As I haven't watched the movie, I don't know what the relevance of 'Bogie' might be. I did a quick search, and all I could find is:
  • 'Bogie' was the nickname of Humphrey Bogart. (And surname of many footballers.)
  • This: https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/bogie
Bogie was the username of the fellow who found the morse code in In the Name of God. Think it’s a clue that the lights were morse code - looks like everyone’s solved it now though?

How on earth you could solve these so quickly?? Another thing which is strange that there were robwebster and some other guys who putted this treasure hunt on but all have disappeared somewhere. Now there's just few people here to solve these puzzles. I don't know how many people are on Discord, never really understood what place that even is. I hope more people could take part of this unique thing but I'mi sucker in these kind of things myself. I really love this idea of treasure hunt but you guys are just too good :lol
I stopped after the first couple because every time I made progress I’d look at the Google Doc and be like “oh, everyone’s way ahead of me, and I don’t really know who these people are or how to collaborate with them.” Too fast!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 01, 2018, 05:01:47 PM
Bogie was the username of the fellow who found the morse code in In the Name of God. Think it’s a clue that the lights were morse code - looks like everyone’s solved it now though?

I stopped after the first couple because every time I made progress I’d look at the Google Doc and be like “oh, everyone’s way ahead of me, and I don’t really know who these people are or how to collaborate with them.” Too fast!
Yeah, thanks! I remember reading about the "In the name of God" nugget many years ago, but I didn't remember Nick's username. And yes, the lights ended up being Morse code, but it took a while figuring it out.

As for the other thing: don't worry! The same happened to me when I joined the hunt on puzzle #4. There are many smart people in the DT channel in Discord; I suggest you join us one of these days! ;) The conversations are a lot of fun, and you learn things you had no idea about.

Here's the link: https://discordapp.com/channels/285051699717210113/467246922265001986
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 02, 2018, 04:53:11 AM
I don't know if anyone noticed it, but we only have 6 fragments left to find before the master puzzle. The top row and the bottom row are completely filled by now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 06, 2018, 03:10:52 PM
Can someone else check the first page of the thread? I'm not seeing James' picture in Freddy's first post. It's as if the URL had expired or been deleted.

The picture was shared:

EDIT: I just checked the source code from Freddy's first post in the thread. The URL for the picture is
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg3uLVHWAAAj38c.jpg:large. That's the same as his Twitter picture. However, according to the source code, the picture can't load. Any ideas why?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Pax on September 06, 2018, 04:59:34 PM
Why the hell did I open this thread two hours ago for the first time ever... But at least it's not all over yet
3301 ftw
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 06, 2018, 05:04:02 PM
Why the hell did I open this thread two hours ago for the first time ever... But at least it's not all over yet
3301 ftw
Exactly! There's still a lot more to do! :) There are 7 puzzles left. So far it's been much fun. I hope you join the party!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on September 07, 2018, 09:30:01 AM
we're at the octave now... half way there!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 07, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Yes, although we're at puzzle 10 already. 6 left, and number 10 will start today. Final puzzle on October 19th.
Edit: Puzzle 10 started on Sunday, September 9th.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 09, 2018, 07:36:28 AM
See these tweets: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1038716504194342912 and https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1038766171909234688
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 11, 2018, 08:29:11 AM
This is the newest clue: https://www.facebook.com/InsideOutMusic/photos/a.427085880438/10156772579275439/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on September 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
This is the newest clue: https://www.facebook.com/InsideOutMusic/photos/a.427085880438/10156772579275439/?type=3&theater

This has me intrigued...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 11, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
It's solved already. Just use EnigmaMachine1928 as a password and you're there.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on September 11, 2018, 02:00:12 PM
Can't wait to get the whole thing already :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 11, 2018, 02:13:06 PM
Well, there are only 6 puzzles left (and 5 puzzle pieces) and the rate at which the puzzles are given out has increased. I'll guess two puzzles per week now. Do the mathematics for yourself now please.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 11, 2018, 03:08:52 PM
Well, there are only 6 puzzles left (and 5 puzzle pieces) and the rate at which the puzzles are given out has increased.
Not yet, really - we're still getting first clues on Fridays/weekends.

Max: have you checked out what I sent to your e-mail address last week? I've also put together the history of the band's official website. Whenever you are interested in reading it, let me know. ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 11, 2018, 03:16:27 PM
Well, there are only 6 puzzles left (and 5 puzzle pieces) and the rate at which the puzzles are given out has increased.
Not yet, really - we're still getting first clues on Fridays/weekends.

Max: have you checked out what I sent to your e-mail address last week? I've also put together the history of the band's official website. Whenever you are interested in reading it, let me know. ;)
I'd love to yes.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 14, 2018, 06:40:21 AM
Puzzle 11 has started. Here is the first clue: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040564816526671872
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on September 14, 2018, 08:49:33 AM
Puzzle 11 has started. Here is the first clue: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040564816526671872
there are 2 more clues now too
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 14, 2018, 09:01:07 AM
Four in total as of now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on September 14, 2018, 10:16:50 AM
Anyone know why the g doc is way outdated?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on September 14, 2018, 11:32:36 AM
We figured out the latest puzzle over in the DT Discord, so I'm going to post what we found here, so everyone's up to date. :)

Anyone who wants to remain unspoiled and solve it for themself before looking behind the curtain can find everything they need here (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040564816526671872), here (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040596834673143808), here (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040608648316239873), here (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040612140753797125), and here (https://freddyjacobi.wordpress.com/2018/09/14/webdings-is-the-final-result-how-did-we-get-to-it-add-four-digits/).

Here's an in-studio image of Mike Mangini from the tweet in the third link. Read on past this image for the spoilers on the puzzle and how we solved it.
(Click the image for the full-size original)
(https://i.imgur.com/1m84n9o.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnD8Ck-X4AAsmFP.jpg:large)

So, this Tweet (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040564816526671872) contained some Webdings. The way to get those Webdings is to type "+ OR - X H F B H O" in that font.

This Tweet (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040596834673143808) is of a shift key. At first, I thought this meant we had to take the Webdings and put them in lowercase, but in actuality, what it meant was that we were supposed to shift the letters.

This Tweet (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040608648316239873) is a picture of Mike Mangini at his drums, but he has a piece of paper at the top of the drumkit.
Although the plus sign is written rather crudely, the paper says "+2731/-65".

Finally, this Tweet (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1040612140753797125) is telling us "Is the END the beginning, or the beginning the end? Are you looking at the result or the ingredients?" So, essentially what we have is that we're working on a puzzle backwards. We're looking at some cipher text, and we have to figure out what process this underwent to reach that point, and reverse it.

Also of importance is the blog post that prompts for the password screen (https://freddyjacobi.wordpress.com/2018/09/14/webdings-is-the-final-result-how-did-we-get-to-it-add-four-digits/). Note that the url says "webdings-is-the-final-result-how-did-we-get-to-it-add-four-digits", and the headline is "Protected: Webdings is the final result. How did we get to it? Then: -2000."

So, basically what we had to do was take the letters from the Webdings, "+ OR - X H F B H O". + OR - is telling us what to do with it, essentially, based on what the Mangini image's paper says; it says +2731/-65. If we take what this is saying for each letter, and shift it that much(+2, +7, +3, +1, -6, -5), we get... Nonsense. Because we're working backwards. This hint tells us how we got where we are, so if we apply this in reverse(-2, -7, -3, -1, +6, +5), we get "V A C A N T".

VACANT is not the password. We have to add four digits, as the blog URL suggests, and use the blog headline to do so. And once again, we return to the Mangini image; 2731 - 65 = 2666. Take away 2000 from that, put it on the end of "Vacant", and we get Vacant666. That is the password.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on September 14, 2018, 12:26:16 PM
Damn, y'all are quick! I saw the puzzle this morning, went to the gym, came back and it was solved hahahaha!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 14, 2018, 01:18:16 PM
Yes that does happen every now and then.
Edit: updated now. Four puzzle pieces left. See here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S0TxEVmIlkI5EVDRuJ5nLaLpA09ngcT8G6N2bQ_HgqE/edit#gid=437004778
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on September 15, 2018, 01:40:41 PM
Yes that does happen every now and then.
Edit: updated now. Four puzzle pieces left. See here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S0TxEVmIlkI5EVDRuJ5nLaLpA09ngcT8G6N2bQ_HgqE/edit#gid=437004778

Thanks, Max!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 20, 2018, 08:53:58 AM
OK guys, puzzle 12 just started. One thing to keep in mind now: Freddy himself (yup, I'm not joking) contributed to our Gdoc and he published a hint there that's nowhere else to be found. It's another layout of a crossword grid.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 22, 2018, 09:16:57 AM
Puzzle 12 solved, see the Gdoc
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on September 22, 2018, 09:32:53 AM
Only 3 more to go! :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on September 22, 2018, 09:38:57 AM
Puzzle 12 solved, see the Gdoc

Wow, you're awesomely fast! Congrats! The hype is high!

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on September 22, 2018, 09:59:03 AM
We are nearly there guys, it's only a matter of time...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on September 22, 2018, 12:09:45 PM
We are nearly there guys, it's only a matter of time...

Or is it?!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Evai on September 23, 2018, 04:21:20 AM
We are the ones who will set the sun.. on this.. treasure hunt?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on September 23, 2018, 05:12:54 AM
Less than a month to get the secret (whatever it is) revealed! C'MON
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 23, 2018, 07:36:31 AM
Less than a month to get the secret (whatever it is) revealed! C'MON
the album title I would think (at least)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on September 23, 2018, 07:40:50 AM
I was wondering, after the 15th puzzle is solved, do we automatically gain access to the final one? Or we have to wait another week to solve it?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 23, 2018, 08:00:06 AM
I was wondering, after the 15th puzzle is solved, do we automatically gain access to the final one? Or we have to wait another week to solve it?
I've been wondering this myself. In the solved page for the 1st puzzle, Freddy wrote that...
Quote
There will be 16 puzzles all in all, including the final puzzle which will consist of the key to assemble the final passphrase.
Quote
Only if you have gathered all of the puzzle pieces and are able to figure out the complete password will you be let in.
Taking this literally, Freddy is saying that all we will have to do after the 15th puzzle is solved, is "figure out the complete password" out of the 15 picture pieces - i.e., solved as soon as the 15th puzzle is done.

But, then again, we could also need to wait a week for a "key" on how to use the letters, or the final URL where to input the password.

I guess will see...
Yes, we shall see.
A B G# / F#
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 29, 2018, 01:16:57 AM
Puzzle #13 done! We got an 'N'.  :)

GRONSFLD. :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 29, 2018, 04:04:19 AM
haha, good one. And an even more clever reference to Lord Nafaryus up there.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on September 29, 2018, 08:30:35 AM
When these puzzles are all solved, do we get the album title?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 29, 2018, 09:02:34 AM
Yes I think so, because that would be logical. (meaning: DT12 and The Astonishing are left for us to solve next week and the week after that, we will have the complete master code by then and once we enter that wherever we have to, then we will know the album title. Not long now.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on September 29, 2018, 01:12:08 PM
Yes I think so, because that would be logical. (meaning: DT12 and The Astonishing are left for us to solve next week and the week after that, we will have the complete master code by then and once we enter that wherever we have to, then we will know the album title. Not long now.)

2 more weeks, 2 more f******g weeks!!!Can't wait! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrggghhhhh…

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on September 29, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
Yes I think so, because that would be logical. (meaning: DT12 and The Astonishing are left for us to solve next week and the week after that, we will have the complete master code by then and once we enter that wherever we have to, then we will know the album title. Not long now.)

2 more weeks, 2 more f******g weeks!!!Can't wait! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrggghhhhh…

B.Lee

2 or maybe 3 weeks if the master puzzle comes a week after puzzle 15, but I feel the same way as you  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on September 29, 2018, 01:22:02 PM
Yeah but consider this: when it started in July it will have been 16 weeks ago in the grand scheme of things. 16.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on September 29, 2018, 01:25:02 PM
Ok, now I got even more excited for this  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on September 30, 2018, 08:50:27 PM
Not a clue, but:

I found out that Freddy's profile picture here is taken from a gif of a sock puppet:

(https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/23012/screenshots/2395656/sock.gif)

Here's a link to the gif: https://dribbble.com/shots/2395656-Sock-Puppet-Motion-Track-WIP

The name of the guy who created it? Fred.

A day later, he created a gif of a pirate sock puppet. :yarr

(https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/23012/screenshots/2397737/sock2.gif)

Even if it's all a coincidence, I find it very funny!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on September 30, 2018, 09:19:45 PM
A day later, he created a gif of a pirate sock puppet. :yarr

(https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/23012/screenshots/2397737/sock2.gif)

Even if it's all a coincidence, I find it very funny!

This confirms that Freddy is secretly James LaBrie :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 01, 2018, 09:45:50 AM
I'm really surprised nobody thought to delve into the sock puppet rabbit hole earlier.  ;)

I can confirm that the sock puppet iconography was chosen deliberately.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 01, 2018, 10:05:13 AM
I thought so (because everything about the whole hunt is deliberate)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 01, 2018, 11:15:30 AM
Can someone please post the link to the Google doc again?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 01, 2018, 11:16:15 AM
yes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/edit#heading=h.x3rcv7afkw3n (sorry it's so long)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 01, 2018, 11:19:13 AM
yes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/edit#heading=h.x3rcv7afkw3n (sorry it's so long)

Thanks!  I had it bookmarked previously, but then my browser got messed up....
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 01, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
anytime
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 01, 2018, 12:15:55 PM
Yeah, thanks Max! Now, I wonder, will we ever know who Fred Jacobi is?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: the keyboard wizard on October 01, 2018, 12:20:05 PM
Yeah, thanks Max! Now, I wonder, will we ever know who Fred Jacobi is?
Is "Jacobi" a reference to the famous Mathematician who created the Jacobi symbol? I'm pretty sure it is.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 01, 2018, 12:22:48 PM
Now, I wonder, will we ever know who Fred Jacobi is?

Probably, I think.  But in the end, he may just be a sock puppet.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 01, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
Yeah, thanks Max! Now, I wonder, will we ever know who Fred Jacobi is?
Is "Jacobi" a reference to the famous Mathematician who created the Jacobi symbol? I'm pretty sure it is.
that's what I thought too, but we don't know yet (or will we ever?) Maybe Kim (noxon) knows, since he gave the "green light" as it were by saying that the hunt is legit (at the very beginning of the thread, remember)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 01, 2018, 06:47:02 PM
I think Noxon and Bosk1 both know who FJ actually is.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 01, 2018, 08:37:50 PM
I do.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ddtonfire on October 01, 2018, 09:00:24 PM
I'm really surprised nobody thought to delve into the sock puppet rabbit hole earlier.  ;)

I can confirm that the sock puppet iconography was chosen deliberately.

So we can assume Freddy Jacobi and Pupp Socket may also be ciphers or clues themselves.

Well, I was almost close. Going to have to put my thinking cap back on.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 01, 2018, 11:52:47 PM
Now, I wonder, will we ever know who Fred Jacobi is?

Probably, I think.  But in the end, he may just be a sock puppet.

I would absolutely love it if he was just a sock puppet. Or better, it's the owner of the sock puppet : Garfield, the cat! :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 02, 2018, 07:59:27 AM
Now you're thinking.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 02, 2018, 09:00:49 AM
Now you're thinking.

Which means that usually, I don't?!? Thank you VERY MUCH, Bosk1!

B.Lee

Edit : if it's Garfield, I swoon! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 02, 2018, 09:09:40 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 02, 2018, 09:41:21 AM
I do.
I'm sure you do. Should have included you in my post above. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 02, 2018, 09:51:00 AM
No worries.  I'm not bothered.  I was just confirming that I know/what who he is.  Or, perhaps more accurately, I know his/its identity.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DarkChestOfWonders on October 02, 2018, 09:52:24 AM
Or..."hers"?   :\
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 02, 2018, 09:52:55 AM
Of course.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 02, 2018, 10:43:28 AM
Of course.  :biggrin:

I knew it! Even if not confirmed, I know it was a cat, hence the "hers" or she. Yeah, I know , Garfield is a he but you know what I mean. My world is complete!!! Yeaaah!!! :yarr (you see what I did there, hm?)

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 02, 2018, 10:47:14 AM
I have read it three times now, and I will have no idea what you did there.  :lol  But I still find it amusing nonetheless. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on October 02, 2018, 11:05:55 AM
Might be stating the obvious here - but a sock puppet is another name for an alt account on a message board, i.e. when someone pretends to be someone else, like Bosk totally hasn't within the last five posts.

Figured that was why Freddy was a sock puppet, didn't figure that it was deliberate / significant!  Basically might suggest it's a forum member?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 02, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
I will just go on record as saying that Freddy is not me, if that is what you were insinuating might be the case. 

Beyond that, I will not say anything more about who or what Freddy is.  That will be made known eventually, I assume.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on October 02, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
Name's Freddy - short for Frederica. Or Frederic. Depending on the mood of the day.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 02, 2018, 11:23:32 AM
So....the name of the new album is....

Androgynous Puppet!!!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 02, 2018, 11:29:23 AM
I have read it three times now, and I will have no idea what you did there.  :lol  But I still find it amusing nonetheless.

Tbh, I have no idea either... :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on October 02, 2018, 11:53:26 AM
What does FJ's signature means?

Quote
4: 40583312000000530000334000369999
00003699580058680068820047400040
33363600000000844782530047000040
00004000841899820099004047760000
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 02, 2018, 12:21:50 PM
What does FJ's signature means?

Quote
4: 40583312000000530000334000369999
00003699580058680068820047400040
33363600000000844782530047000040
00004000841899820099004047760000
that was part of the code needed to solve puzzle 7 (and that was 7 weeks ago)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 02, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Name's Freddy - short for Frederica. Or Frederic. Depending on the mood of the day.
Oh wow! Hi Frederic/a! :) Thanks for doing all of this - I've enjoyed it very much.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 02, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
Name's Freddy - short for Frederica. Or Frederic. Depending on the mood of the day.
Oh wow! Hi Frederic/a! :) Thanks for doing all of this - I've enjoyed it very much.
me too, thanks lots
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 02, 2018, 02:22:07 PM
Oh hey Frederic. I think I know you, you're Finnish musician.  ;)

https://youtu.be/qkptrTkE49o
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Elite on October 03, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
Let's hope DT's album will be better than that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Robo4900 on October 03, 2018, 03:14:26 PM
Hmm... So, the pirate puppet thing points to James LaBrie... And Freddie Mercury is one of James LaBrie's greatest influences... Freddy Jacobi, Freddie Mercury... Hmm...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Indiscipline on October 03, 2018, 03:17:46 PM
The names James and Jacob come from the same root
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on October 06, 2018, 08:27:15 AM
No clues for the self-titled puzzle yet, eh?

Also, what's going on with the google doc? It looks as though people have tried to tamper with it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on October 06, 2018, 08:43:46 AM
Is there going to be any significance to the actual picture once it's complete?  Like we have to look for clues within it etc.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 06, 2018, 08:45:50 AM
Is there going to be any significance to the actual picture once it's complete?  Like we have to look for clues within it etc.
I don't know.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 06, 2018, 08:46:55 AM
No clues for the self-titled puzzle yet, eh?

Also, what's going on with the google doc? It looks as though people have tried to tamper with it.
Yeah and I'm furious about that (furious as fuck really). I would have reverted the changes instantly but I'm not allowed to. No clues yet, you're right. On Sunday I guess.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 06, 2018, 08:58:33 AM
Yeah and I'm furious about that (furious as fuck really). I would have reverted the changes instantly but I'm not allowed to. No clues yet, you're right. On Sunday I guess.
Would you like me to try doing something?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 06, 2018, 09:15:38 AM
Yeah and I'm furious about that (furious as fuck really). I would have reverted the changes instantly but I'm not allowed to. No clues yet, you're right. On Sunday I guess.
Would you like me to try doing something?
Yes, that would be really nice of you. I've marked all the unnecessary changes as answers containing "no". (for easier reference.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 06, 2018, 09:22:26 AM
Yes, that would be really nice of you. I've marked all the unnecessary changes as answers containing "no". (for easier reference.)
OK, just rejected all those weird suggestions. I've accepted one, though, because I think the guy actually corrected something in a pic I posted the other day.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 06, 2018, 09:23:40 AM
Yes, that would be really nice of you. I've marked all the unnecessary changes as answers containing "no". (for easier reference.)
OK, just rejected all those weird suggestions. I've accepted one, though, because I think the guy actually corrected something in a pic I posted the other day.
Yeah I think that seems alright. Cheers for that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 06, 2018, 09:25:54 AM
No clues for the self-titled puzzle yet, eh?

Also, what's going on with the google doc? It looks as though people have tried to tamper with it.
Corrected now. We can thank Sebastiàn for that. (I did)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 06, 2018, 11:41:40 AM
Ok guys, puzzle 14 has started (see Freddy's twitter page for clues, or the Gdoc of course)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on October 06, 2018, 06:11:59 PM
Klingon huh?  No wonder it didn't work in Google translate  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 06, 2018, 11:43:19 PM
Now I’m wondering, what if the last part of the picture shows JP using an 8 string guitar? :eek
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 07, 2018, 01:49:11 AM
The code will be completed next week.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 07, 2018, 02:42:35 AM
The code will be completed next week.

Well, that sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 07, 2018, 05:27:30 AM
The code will be completed next week.

Well, that sounds interesting.
or rather complete. My mistake.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 07, 2018, 10:33:19 AM
The code will be completed next week.

Well, that sounds interesting.
or rather complete. My mistake.

No problem there, Bro, that made sense as well.

EDIT : 2112th post. Now, I'm a real proghead! :metal :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 07, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Oh, boy! Almost there! The puzzles are way too confusing for me, but I love following this. I can't wait!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 07, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Oh, boy! Almost there! The puzzles are way too confusing for me, but I love following this. I can't wait!
For me too half the time actually :D, but I'm part of the  Gdoc crew and we all manage to crack them in some ways. And somebody has to do it, so that's what it is.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 07, 2018, 11:21:03 AM
Oh, boy! Almost there! The puzzles are way too confusing for me, but I love following this. I can't wait!

Same here, can’t wait for this to end :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 07, 2018, 11:25:59 AM
Not long now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 07, 2018, 11:30:59 AM
Not long now.

It will have been an awesome way to hype the new album!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 07, 2018, 01:55:53 PM
Not long now.

It will have been an awesome way to hype the new album!
Yes, most definitely.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 07, 2018, 01:58:53 PM
It will have been an awesome way to hype the new album!
I was thinking about that a couple of days ago:

The first clue appeared on June 29th. That's 3 months and 1 week.

The album won't be released until January. That's 3 months.

We still have a lot of hyping to do!  :P

(Not that I'm complaining.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 07, 2018, 02:06:15 PM
It will have been an awesome way to hype the new album!
I was thinking about that a couple of days ago:

The first clue appeared on June 29th. That's 3 months and 1 week.

The album won't be released until January. That's 3 months.

We still have a lot of hyping to do!  :P

(Not that I'm complaining.)
Yeah no. Although Maddi (I believe, could have been another person) said that they were finished earlier than they thought. So the record may be released earlier than we were told. But yes, there will be more hype and it will expand weekly it seems :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 07, 2018, 02:17:28 PM
Just out of curiosity, is there an endgame in sight for this? I mean, all the clues and solutions that you're getting, do they point to a "bigger picture", as in composing a puzzle where you start to understand the figures, or it's just one clue after the other that allows you to keep going?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 07, 2018, 02:41:36 PM
Just out of curiosity, is there an endgame in sight for this? I mean, all the clues and solutions that you're getting, do they point to a "bigger picture", as in composing a puzzle where you start to understand the figures, or it's just one clue after the other that allows you to keep going?
Well, the way I've always seen it is that we get one final letter and picture fragment sometime this coming week. Once we have that, the code and the "bigger picture" as it were is completed. Then we have to input it somewhere. Once we know where and we've done that, we know the album title. It's a little bit of both (as good an answer I can give to your question)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 07, 2018, 04:30:40 PM
Just out of curiosity, is there an endgame in sight for this? I mean, all the clues and solutions that you're getting, do they point to a "bigger picture", as in composing a puzzle where you start to understand the figures, or it's just one clue after the other that allows you to keep going?
Maybe this answers your question:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/498292523392040970/The_bigger_picture_so_far_week_14.jpg)

That's what we have as of today.

Each puzzle piece Freddy shared has a small letter hidden somewhere. If the next -and final- puzzle piece has an 'E', then we have some ideas of what words we can form with all 15 letters.

(Looking at the picture, and judging by the original first puzzle piece posted in the first page of the thread, it seems to me that Freddy had originally cut the bigger picture into 3x5, but then he divided it into 5x3.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 07, 2018, 04:51:05 PM
Also: look at how many arms Mike has! He reminds me of this guy:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mortalkombat/images/7/74/GoroRenderMKX.png/revision/latest?cb=20151114044740&path-prefix=es)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: evilasiojr on October 07, 2018, 09:19:37 PM
If the next -and final- puzzle piece has an 'E', then we have some ideas of what words we can form with all 15 letters.

Could you share some of these ideas?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 07, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
If the next -and final- puzzle piece has an 'E', then we have some ideas of what words we can form with all 15 letters.

Could you share some of these ideas?
Well, I'll share one I came up with (which means the idea will likely be useless :P):

The letters from the 14 puzzle pieces obtained so far are:

D, S, Y, R, F, R, O, G, T, P, L, A, N, K

If the next and final letter is an 'E', then an anagram you can form is:

GRONSFELD KRYPTA

Freddy has said "I really enjoy Gronsfeld Ciphers", but so far we've only had one of that sort of ciphers to solve.
Plus, the guy who invented the cipher was German, and 'krypta' is a word in German - it translates in English as 'crypt', which is a term used not only for chambers and sarcophagi, but for computer science and passwords as well. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_(C)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_(Unix)

('KRYPTA' or an anagram of it could also be a word encrypted through the Gronsfeld cipher, which we'd need to crack.)

Of course, 'GRONSFELD' could be a coincidence; or, maybe we don't even get an 'E' in the first place!

My two cents, anyway.

(If we get an 'I', an anagram is 'DYSTOPIAN RFRGLK'.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 07, 2018, 11:45:10 PM
DSYRFROGTPLANK(E)

It's obviously "frog plank desyrt"  :justjen
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2018, 01:54:31 AM
Right :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 08, 2018, 02:18:36 AM
Just out of curiosity, is there an endgame in sight for this? I mean, all the clues and solutions that you're getting, do they point to a "bigger picture", as in composing a puzzle where you start to understand the figures, or it's just one clue after the other that allows you to keep going?
Maybe this answers your question:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/498292523392040970/The_bigger_picture_so_far_week_14.jpg)

That's what we have as of today.

Each puzzle piece Freddy shared has a small letter hidden somewhere. If the next -and final- puzzle piece has an 'E', then we have some ideas of what words we can form with all 15 letters.

(Looking at the picture, and judging by the original first puzzle piece posted in the first page of the thread, it seems to me that Freddy had originally cut the bigger picture into 3x5, but then he divided it into 5x3.)

Ok, thanks!

It would be cool if this would lead to the album title reveal, and that you guys spending time and brain cells to solve this would be the very first ones to know.

Freddy could monitor the forums, and once the treasure hunt is finished, send word to the management, "Hey, they solved the riddle, they know the album title", and they could announce it on their website and FB.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2018, 02:29:03 AM
It's only logical for the album title to be revealed once the last picture fragment is added in, because all the other solution pages each had an album title (ok, including ACOS and FII appeared twice but you get the idea), so yes I think it's safe to say we will know the album title very soon. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 08, 2018, 03:30:17 AM
DSYRFROGTPLANK(E)

It's obviously "frog plank desyrt"  :justjen


Gronsfeld Party? But what to do with the remaining "k"? :justjen  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on October 08, 2018, 04:52:39 AM
DSYRFROGTPLANK(E)

It's obviously "frog plank desyrt"  :justjen

https://www.fitwirr.com/exercise/planking-frog-tuck/  ???
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2018, 05:00:45 AM
DT doing Yoga in alternating bars of 21/16 and 19/16 :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 08, 2018, 05:45:37 AM
Edited (see below).
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: evilasiojr on October 08, 2018, 06:42:37 AM
Oh, well, that actually made sense, Sebastian!! Hope it all goes down to a nice reveal.

Thanks for sharing  :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 08, 2018, 06:50:03 AM
If the next -and final- puzzle piece has an 'E', then we have some ideas of what words we can form with all 15 letters.

Could you share some of these ideas?
Well, I'll share one I came up with (which means the idea will likely be useless :P):

The letters from the 14 puzzle pieces obtained so far are:

D, S, Y, R, F, R, O, G, T, P, L, A, N, K

If the next and final letter is an 'E', then an anagram you can form is:

GRONSFELD KRYPTA

Freddy has said "I really enjoy Gronsfeld Ciphers", but so far we've only had one of that sort of ciphers to solve.
Plus, the guy who invented the cipher was German, and 'krypta' is a word in German - it translates in English as 'crypt', which is a term used not only for chambers and sarcophagi, but for computer science and passwords as well. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_(C)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_(Unix)

('KRYPTA' or an anagram of it could also be a word encrypted through the Gronsfeld cipher, which we'd need to crack.)

Of course, 'GRONSFELD' could be a coincidence; or, maybe we don't even get an 'E' in the first place!

My two cents, anyway.

(If we get an 'I', an anagram is 'DYSTOPIAN RFRGLK'.)

Following your idea, Sebastian :

A bit of a stretch, but maybe this : try gronsfeld apk, that is try gronsfeld.apk. An apk file or Android Package file is a file format which is created by Google. This format is one of the group members of Executable Files (similar to EXE, MST, AIR) or it is in the Open Handset Alliance which is a mobile phone platform based on Linux. This file extension is especially created when using Google's Android SDK. APK files contain the code files, resource files and the AndroidManifest XML file extension.

Btw, gronsfeld cipher APK download is a free tools app for Android. It encodes texts using the gronsfeld cipher, the key to the encoding / decoding.

B.Lee

Or my imagination is making me see things... :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 08, 2018, 07:48:38 AM
It's obviously "frog plank desyrt"  :justjen
"Yes, DT 'r frog plank" :P

Following your idea, Sebastian :

A bit of a stretch, but maybe this : try gronsfeld apk, that is try gronsfeld.apk. An apk file or Android Package file is a file format which is created by Google. This format is one of the group members of Executable Files (similar to EXE, MST, AIR) or it is in the Open Handset Alliance which is a mobile phone platform based on Linux. This file extension is especially created when using Google's Android SDK. APK files contain the code files, resource files and the AndroidManifest XML file extension.

Btw, gronsfeld cipher APK download is a free tools app for Android. It encodes texts using the gronsfeld cipher, the key to the encoding / decoding.

B.Lee

Or my imagination is making me see things... :lol
Wow, man! Thanks! I didn't know about that. That looks like a great idea!

So, this is the app you're talking about?
https://apkpure.com/gronsfeld-cipher/com.gbilodeau.gronsfeldcypher
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 08, 2018, 08:23:16 AM
It's obviously "frog plank desyrt"  :justjen
"Yes, DT 'r frog plank" :P

Following your idea, Sebastian :

A bit of a stretch, but maybe this : try gronsfeld apk, that is try gronsfeld.apk. An apk file or Android Package file is a file format which is created by Google. This format is one of the group members of Executable Files (similar to EXE, MST, AIR) or it is in the Open Handset Alliance which is a mobile phone platform based on Linux. This file extension is especially created when using Google's Android SDK. APK files contain the code files, resource files and the AndroidManifest XML file extension.

Btw, gronsfeld cipher APK download is a free tools app for Android. It encodes texts using the gronsfeld cipher, the key to the encoding / decoding.

B.Lee

Or my imagination is making me see things... :lol
Wow, man! Thanks! I didn't know about that. That looks like a great idea!

So, this is the app you're talking about?
https://apkpure.com/gronsfeld-cipher/com.gbilodeau.gronsfeldcypher

Yep, this is it, my dear!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 08, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
A couple random thoughts:

1. A significant portion of the remaining piece of the picture is the yellow pad on the easel.  It seems to be the same pad from the picture that was posted in late August, but what if some of the content is different?

2. John Myung seems to be the only band member not included in the picture (unless my eyesight sucks worse than I think and I have missed him).  I wonder if there's anything to that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
A couple random thoughts:

1. A significant portion of the remaining piece of the picture is the yellow pad on the easel.  It seems to be the same pad from the picture that was posted in late August, but what if some of the content is different?

2. John Myung seems to be the only band member not included in the picture (unless my eyesight sucks worse than I think and I have missed him).  I wonder if there's anything to that.
Re 1: I don't know, we will see on Friday (or whenever the puzzle will begin this week)
Re 2.: JM can actually be seen (I just checked. You can see his head next to one of Mike's cymbal stacks on Mike's left side.
See here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S0TxEVmIlkI5EVDRuJ5nLaLpA09ngcT8G6N2bQ_HgqE/edit#gid=437004778
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 08, 2018, 12:42:39 PM
Re 2.: JM can actually be seen (I just checked. You can see his head next to one of Mike's cymbal stacks on Mike's left side.

Sigh...as if I didn't already know I need to visit the optometrist!   :-\
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2018, 12:46:50 PM
Re 2.: JM can actually be seen (I just checked. You can see his head next to one of Mike's cymbal stacks on Mike's left side.

Sigh...as if I didn't already know I need to visit the optometrist!   :-\
By way of reassurance, I'm 28 and I'm wearing glasses right now (always did though)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on October 08, 2018, 02:54:40 PM
A couple random thoughts:

1. A significant portion of the remaining piece of the picture is the yellow pad on the easel.  It seems to be the same pad from the picture that was posted in late August, but what if some of the content is different?

Yes, good point.  From what is visible they look exactly the same, but maybe the revealed part will show more.  Like more that JLB filled out because the original picture looked like he was trying to solve it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on October 08, 2018, 03:17:31 PM
Regarding the potential meaning of the letters revealed weekly, I'd like to offer my own guesses.

1. While it seems likely that the completed code would be anagram for the new album name, would it be too farfetched to assume that it is potentially a password for a page that may reveal the ACTUAL album name?

OR

2. Potentially the name of a new song, and a link to a lyric video or something of that nature? I believe enough time has passed since they've recorded that they would have a single ready by now.

Although, I hope it is an album title, as that would just make everything simpler at this point   :laugh:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
Regarding the potential meaning of the letters revealed weekly, I'd like to offer my own guesses.

1. While it seems likely that the completed code would be anagram for the new album name, would it be too farfetched to assume that it is potentially a password for a page that may reveal the ACTUAL album name?

OR

2. Potentially the name of a new song, and a link to a lyric video or something of that nature? I believe enough time has passed since they've recorded that they would have a single ready by now.

Although, I hope it is an album title, as that would just make everything simpler at this point   :laugh:
1: Highly likely.
2: we don't know yet.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 08, 2018, 04:53:16 PM
Regarding the potential meaning of the letters revealed weekly, I'd like to offer my own guesses.

1. While it seems likely that the completed code would be anagram for the new album name, would it be too farfetched to assume that it is potentially a password for a page that may reveal the ACTUAL album name?

I think it fairly unlikely that the letters are simply an anagram for the album name.  For one thing, given that all but one of the letters are now known, the anagram could easily be solved by using the known letters plus a wildcard.  That would be way too simple given how complex this treasure hunt has been and would effectively render moot the last part of the puzzle.  Second, the letters were an anagram for the album name, then that would render the picture part of this puzzle irrelevant.  I think it's far more likely that the letters are an anagramed password or clue which, in connection with the photo, is part of the final puzzle that reveals whatever it is to be revealed.  While it's been speculated that the album title is what will be revealed, that is nothing but speculation at this point.

I believe enough time has passed since they've recorded that they would have a single ready by now.

I've lost track of where exactly they are in the process, but I don't think there's been any indication that mixing is complete.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 08, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
I've lost track of where exactly they are in the process, but I don't think there's been any indication that mixing is complete.

They could be giving mixing priority to whatever track they've chosen to be the single, right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 08, 2018, 05:47:55 PM
I've lost track of where exactly they are in the process, but I don't think there's been any indication that mixing is complete.

They could be giving mixing priority to whatever track they've chosen to be the single, right?

In the abstract, virtually anything is possible.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 08, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
I think it’s too early for a single. We might have it by mid-November early-December, like with TA (which had a similar release schedule).
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 09, 2018, 07:10:53 AM
Yeah, I think it's probably too early for a single, but in theory, it could be possible based on when they finished tracking to have at least one track ready. The more likely scenario is that they are mixing all the tracks still and everything still needs mastered.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on October 09, 2018, 07:19:19 AM
My guess. The puzzle will lead to a Youtube video of them demoing a song as shown in the pic.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: evilasiojr on October 09, 2018, 07:40:13 AM
My guess. The puzzle will lead to a Youtube video of them demoing a song as shown in the pic.

THAT is an awesome possibly!!  :o
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 09, 2018, 09:10:27 AM
I've lost track of where exactly they are in the process, but I don't think there's been any indication that mixing is complete.

They could be giving mixing priority to whatever track they've chosen to be the single, right?

Absolutely.  That kind of thing is routinely done.  But that said, I still think it is probably too early for a single.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: goo-goo on October 09, 2018, 09:28:01 AM
That easel pad that is missing on the Google Doc file, once it's uncovered, will just be the recipe for LaBrie's burgers or some JP BBQ recipe  :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 09, 2018, 09:48:59 AM
That easel pad that is missing on the Google Doc file, once it's uncovered, will just be the recipe for LaBrie's burgers or some JP BBQ recipe  :rollin

 :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 09, 2018, 10:48:43 AM
That easel pad that is missing on the Google Doc file, once it's uncovered, will just be the recipe for LaBrie's burgers or some JP BBQ recipe  :rollin

I'd be down for that!  To be honest, if the ONLY thing revealed is the album name, I think that would be pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 09, 2018, 11:15:54 AM
That easel pad that is missing on the Google Doc file, once it's uncovered, will just be the recipe for LaBrie's burgers or some JP BBQ recipe  :rollin

I'd be down for that!  To be honest, if the ONLY thing revealed is the album name, I think that would be pretty disappointing.

I don't see how it can be disappointing. Frankly, if you look at the treasure hunt, there's been a lot of work done. For me, following the hunt has been as fun as will be the revealing of the name. Plus, it means there will still be many things to discover what with the track names, the album cover...But it's just my opinion and I totally respect yours. It's just that you're wrong. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 09, 2018, 12:31:04 PM
I think it shows that whoever designed the hunt and had the idea, thought out of the box and that's commendable IMHO. It's different.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bogie on October 09, 2018, 01:59:18 PM
I'm going to go back and read this entire thread, but while I do that, quick question:  Are there any unsolved puzzles at the moment?

If I can be of any help, please let me know.  (For reference, I found the "Ultimate Nugget" in ITNOG, and I've solved both the season 2 and season 3 ARGs for Mr. Robot, so I def have ARG-related experience.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on October 09, 2018, 02:03:26 PM
Well, look who showed up! You should know, you were a hint in one of the puzzles ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 09, 2018, 02:09:36 PM
I'm going to go back and read this entire thread, but while I do that, quick question:  Are there any unsolved puzzles at the moment?

If I can be of any help, please let me know.  (For reference, I found the "Ultimate Nugget" in ITNOG, and I've solved both the season 2 and season 3 ARGs for Mr. Robot, so I def have ARG-related experience.)
We are waiting for puzzle 15 now. Here is our Gdoc in case you'd like to read that as well: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yyYIIDp6UxuMm6jXpEkV9NfL4gYf1BBvXFyo6uk4Z2s/edit#heading=h.x3rcv7afkw3n
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 09, 2018, 05:29:20 PM
I'm going to go back and read this entire thread, but while I do that, quick question:  Are there any unsolved puzzles at the moment?
Hi, Nick! It's an honor to meet you. I'm putting together a document on the hunt in Spanish, and have researched a lot of additional things, like previous DT challenges, and the history of fan communities. I found an archive of the Ytsejam Mailing List which includes some posts by you, so yeah - you're sort of legendary!

To answer your question: yes - the next 2, which we are waiting for. The previous 14 have been solved. (Some in 4 days, some in a couple of hours)

By the way, this is the hint Noxon said you were for us: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1035930167326199811

(Oh - shall I call you Nick, or Bogie?)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bogie on October 09, 2018, 06:48:53 PM
Well, look who showed up! You should know, you were a hint in one of the puzzles ;)

I see that - lol!  Better late than never, I suppose. 

Looking forward to puzzle 15!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 10, 2018, 05:09:37 AM
Well, look who showed up! You should know, you were a hint in one of the puzzles ;)

I see that - lol!  Better late than never, I suppose. 

Looking forward to puzzle 15!
Feel free to join us on the Google doc if you like, I'd love to have you on. I'm sure Sebastiàn would love to as well.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 11, 2018, 04:27:46 PM
Feel free to join us on the Google doc if you like, I'd love to have you on. I'm sure Sebastiàn would love to as well.
Of course!  :)

By the way: new password protected page on Vail Renovations site. Freddy created it a couple hours ago.

Seems that the puzzle will begin soon! :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 12, 2018, 01:22:29 AM
Feel free to join us on the Google doc if you like, I'd love to have you on. I'm sure Sebastiàn would love to as well.
Of course!  :)

By the way: new password protected page on Vail Renovations site. Freddy created it a couple hours ago.

Seems that the puzzle will begin soon! :)

Bring it on!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 12, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
OK guys: Puzzle 15 has just begun. Home stretch time. See FJ's twitter for clues.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 12, 2018, 10:28:13 AM
I don’t even understand these puzzles, but you can do it, guys! :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 12, 2018, 10:30:38 AM
I don’t even understand these puzzles, but you can do it, guys! :metal
You caught the Octavarium reference though.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 12, 2018, 10:43:24 AM
HYYYYPE!  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: erwinrafael on October 12, 2018, 10:49:13 AM
The story began with calling the phone number?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 12, 2018, 10:52:49 AM
That was part of the beginning, but it strictly began on his Twitter and the photo of James with the sheet.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on October 12, 2018, 11:48:13 AM
"mm. I forgot some vowels. Like eaoa, and end with a ϕ"
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1050803980014706693

Extra letters we need to combine with the puzzle pieces, maybe?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 12, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
"mm. I forgot some vowels. Like eaoa, and end with a ϕ"
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1050803980014706693

Extra letters we need to combine with the puzzle pieces, maybe?
well, my guess is taking the filename of the photo (stgngr) and combining it with the things in the tweet yes. The Greek letter is a phi btw (part of the Majesty symbol as well.) Edit: turns out that we were both right. (yay intellect)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 12, 2018, 12:44:42 PM
They noticed. See here: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1050816759849193472
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 12, 2018, 12:47:20 PM
So the last letter of the title is F? 🤔
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 12, 2018, 12:53:41 PM
It might be. Some Discord guys are faster than us on the Gdoc sometimes.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 12, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
It might be. Some Discord guys are faster than us on the Gdoc sometimes.

So, the title may be Spaceman Spiff? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 12, 2018, 01:30:00 PM
So they solved it already? We might have to wait another week for the final part, then :'(
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on October 12, 2018, 01:43:18 PM
So they solved it already? We might have to wait another week for the final part, then :'(

They're still going... I'm just watching with a chicken bucket cheering for their progress  :lol

https://discordapp.com/channels/285051699717210113/467246922265001986
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 12, 2018, 01:46:40 PM
It might be. Some Discord guys are faster than us on the Gdoc sometimes.

So, the title may be Spaceman Spiff? :biggrin:

So the Northern Empire has finally developed space travel? The Astonishing part II confirmed!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 12, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
It might be. Some Discord guys are faster than us on the Gdoc sometimes.

So, the title may be Spaceman Spiff? :biggrin:

So the Northern Empire has finally developed space travel? The Astonishing part II confirmed!
Sure :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on October 12, 2018, 04:22:54 PM
Oh nice, 'the Astonishing' has started!!! Where we at now? And oh lord, I sincerely hope 'the Astonishing II' is not in the cards  :-X
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 13, 2018, 12:32:06 AM
Where we at now?
In short:

There's a game which, when solved, gives the following string of letters (plus a "!" at the end):

DLTHQSXERGFWPPBLWCENLRAEKNIIHUDDLPESAFB!

We have to remove/keep some of those letters, but it's not very clear which; at Discord, we are working on it.

Once we have that, we might have to decode/decrypt it using either a numeric key hinted in Freddy's first pic (which could be 20345 or 24345 with or without 97 somewhere) and/or the "+4,-2,+3,-1" from the second pic (like we did with puzzle #11).

It seems that the result will suggest the password to input here:
https://vailrenovations84552723.wordpress.com/the-last-puzzle-before-the-final-puzzle/

(Oh: the pic of the band looking at the screen is the coolest thing ever! :) Thank you Mike, Jordan, John, John, James and Freddy!)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 13, 2018, 12:57:53 AM
Yeah that is so cool. Couldn't believe it myself. I've added the solution page link to the Gdoc already.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 13, 2018, 02:18:26 AM
It might be. Some Discord guys are faster than us on the Gdoc sometimes.

So, the title may be Spaceman Spiff? :biggrin:

So the Northern Empire has finally developed space travel? The Astonishing part II confirmed!
Sure :D

Yep, TA II confirmed. Main characters : Calvin and Hobbes + Garfield!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on October 13, 2018, 04:54:35 AM
Yep, TA II confirmed.

Jesus, don't even mess with that... This night I dreamed that the puzzle was finally solved and not only DT14 would be TA II, but the band would also have signed a contract to produce a third album as a prequel to TA.

I enjoyed TA a lot, but this would be too much. Hell, no  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on October 13, 2018, 05:47:46 AM
I had to show the guys just how well you guys have been doing so far. They were very impressed.

(https://scontent.fsvg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43951519_2250399731702022_776367303561314304_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&oh=66cd35bbf23ff07efb79df669391e297&oe=5C15EB70)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on October 13, 2018, 05:49:39 AM
Here's also a candid shot of them doing the publicity photos

(https://scontent.fsvg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43743567_2250399741702021_998904900790255616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&oh=d626040e6dfe6a0e6d85b3fd21d711e5&oe=5C5D2454)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Elite on October 13, 2018, 05:53:22 AM
Is that person on the forground Freddy? :neverusethis:




DT14: Train of Thought revisited.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 13, 2018, 09:38:55 AM
Mangini it’s doing a 2, Myung 4, James 3, Jordan 4, John 5. And in the first picture Jordan does a 1 while pointing the screen where Symes was hinted. That must means something, does it?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 13, 2018, 09:48:22 AM
Mangini it’s doing a 2, Myung 4, James 3, Jordan 4, John 5. And in the first picture Jordan does a 1 while pointing the screen where Symes was hinted. That must means something, does it?

It has solved already, see Gdoc!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on October 13, 2018, 09:56:44 AM
Mangini it’s doing a 2, Myung 4, James 3, Jordan 4, John 5. And in the first picture Jordan does a 1 while pointing the screen where Symes was hinted. That must means something, does it?

It has solved already, see Gdoc!
the puzzle is not solved yet from what i see?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 13, 2018, 09:59:41 AM
No it's not (at least it's not documented as such). This is the most current tweet: https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1051126920023367682
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 13, 2018, 10:10:04 AM
If it ends where it begun. Does it means that Syme reference in the picture is valid does it?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 13, 2018, 10:11:05 AM
If it ends where it begun. Does it means that Syme reference in the picture is valid does it?
What reference to Hugh Syme?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 13, 2018, 11:45:24 AM
If it ends where it begun. Does it means that Syme reference in the picture is valid does it?
What reference to Hugh Syme?


(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/EE0CD4C4-D6F5-48D6-B848-61131FAD8B12_zpswrq5lrji.jpg) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/EE0CD4C4-D6F5-48D6-B848-61131FAD8B12_zpswrq5lrji.jpg.html)

If it ends where it begun. That was the first clue (if I am not mistaken)

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 13, 2018, 11:46:38 AM
If it ends where it begun. Does it means that Syme reference in the picture is valid does it?
What reference to Hugh Syme?


(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/EE0CD4C4-D6F5-48D6-B848-61131FAD8B12_zpswrq5lrji.jpg) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/EE0CD4C4-D6F5-48D6-B848-61131FAD8B12_zpswrq5lrji.jpg.html)

If it ends where it begun. That was the first clue (if I am not mistaken)

That picture leads me to think that probably we will know the artwork and title of the new album when the TH ends
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 13, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
OK done! (With a little help from our friends...)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/500753349403213824/The_bigger_picture_2.jpg)

That was a hard, yet fun puzzle. :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 13, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Letter is added, what's the password though? And does anyone know what to do next or where to input the master code?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 13, 2018, 02:12:18 PM
(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/7335297C-135D-4B7E-88A5-29D8B7FEB377_zps7rmeoaul.jpg) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/7335297C-135D-4B7E-88A5-29D8B7FEB377_zps7rmeoaul.jpg.html)

What’s that symbol I marked in red?

It doesn’t appear on the original picture

(https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah58/jorge_pozo1/52E8DB7B-246D-4B06-8A6E-8490B15E0965_zpsgc9eoqbd.png) (https://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jorge_pozo1/media/52E8DB7B-246D-4B06-8A6E-8490B15E0965_zpsgc9eoqbd.png.html)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 13, 2018, 02:12:49 PM
Letter is added, what's the password though? And does anyone know what to do next or where to input the master code?
Pass was "OurNewWorld!". :) Freddy couldn't explain it better in his message, so have a look!

Looks like next week will be something!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 13, 2018, 02:14:26 PM
What’s that symbol I marked in red?
That's a letter 'V'. Every puzzle piece has a letter somewhere, you just need to look for them.

First one was a 'T' (see first page of the thread), but once Freddy changed the pictures, it became a 'D' (which you can see on your post).
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 13, 2018, 02:17:28 PM
Freddy Wrote:

You should now have all images!

But you’re missing a key part : how to decode this? (and no, it is not an anagram)

The final puzzle url will be given out next week. With this will also be the final puzzle.

The final puzzle will be hard, but should be solvable by all with logical elimination skills. And; only the first to solve it will get full entry to the prize! And it’s up to him or her to share whatever he finds in there.

But don’t worry, there will be a consolation prize for the rest of you. Plus everyone will be able to enter into a competition to win some nice mystery boxes of DT loot.

 

GOOD LUCK, and thanks for playing!

Freddy Jacobi

 

Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 13, 2018, 02:31:50 PM
Letter is added, what's the password though? And does anyone know what to do next or where to input the master code?
Pass was "OurNewWorld!". :) Freddy couldn't explain it better in his message, so have a look!

Looks like next week will be something!
and my guess is that we have to enter the master code at the URL that will be given out next week (which will be easy for us because we compiled the code already)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 13, 2018, 02:41:26 PM
I really hope whoever finds it first shares whatever it is. This whole stuff is way too crazy for me to even try. xD
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 13, 2018, 02:41:51 PM
Yes. To anyone who will find it first: please share!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 13, 2018, 04:02:16 PM
I really hope whoever finds it first shares whatever it is. This whole stuff is way too crazy for me to even try. xD
I thought the same thing before I started playing. You learn a lot! :) You should try the next one.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 13, 2018, 04:49:54 PM
If it's the album title / cover art / video of a new song or whatever, it would probably be the first time that the announcement would come from a random fan that solved a puzzle.

Think how cool it would be... "After a fan solved the final in a long line of riddles on the DT forums and social media, and the rumors that followed, we can confirm that indeed our latest album is called like this and will be released on this date" :metal:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 13, 2018, 08:23:00 PM
So just one week to go? The hype is REAL!  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 14, 2018, 04:03:38 AM
Yes, not long now though.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 14, 2018, 04:14:38 AM
Here's also a candid shot of them doing the publicity photos

(https://scontent.fsvg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43743567_2250399741702021_998904900790255616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&oh=d626040e6dfe6a0e6d85b3fd21d711e5&oe=5C5D2454)

(https://i64.tinypic.com/2cwqtfk.jpg) 😁😁😁
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 14, 2018, 05:21:28 AM
Dream75, this part was already solved I think.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 14, 2018, 05:26:45 AM
Dream75, this part was already solved I think.

Yes I know 😁 it is one of the clues to solve the fifteenth part of the treasure hunt👍
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 14, 2018, 08:17:48 AM
Dream75, this part was already solved I think.

Yes I know 😁 it is one of the clues to solve the fifteenth part of the treasure hunt👍

Yep. And sorry, I thought you didn't know. :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 14, 2018, 08:40:49 AM
The photographer it’s doing 1
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 14, 2018, 10:17:55 AM
Dream75, this part was already solved I think.

Yes I know 😁 it is one of the clues to solve the fifteenth part of the treasure hunt👍

Yep. And sorry, I thought you didn't know. :tup

No problem 👍
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 15, 2018, 11:09:07 AM
Here's a short summary of the hunt, in case it comes in handy.
I learnt a lot while playing, so I decided to list every tool/knowledge/games involved in the hunt as well.

Docx: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439863325851668/Summary.docx
PDF: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439923770097704/Summary.pdf
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 15, 2018, 12:28:41 PM
Here's a short summary of the hunt, in case it comes in handy.
I learnt a lot while playing, so I decided to list every tool/knowledge/games involved in the hunt as well.

Docx: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439863325851668/Summary.docx
PDF: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439923770097704/Summary.pdf

Thanks Sebastian! Really interesting doc!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 15, 2018, 01:40:04 PM
Here's a short summary of the hunt, in case it comes in handy.
I learnt a lot while playing, so I decided to list every tool/knowledge/games involved in the hunt as well.

Docx: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439863325851668/Summary.docx
PDF: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439923770097704/Summary.pdf

Thanks Sebastian! Really interesting doc!
Thanks! Looking at the list, I'm amazed at how little I knew of all that before joining the party; you guys and the people at Discord taught me a lot.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 15, 2018, 01:56:39 PM
Here's a short summary of the hunt, in case it comes in handy.
I learnt a lot while playing, so I decided to list every tool/knowledge/games involved in the hunt as well.

Docx: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439863325851668/Summary.docx
PDF: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467246922265001986/501439923770097704/Summary.pdf

Thanks Sebastian! Really interesting doc!
Thanks! Looking at the list, I'm amazed at how little I knew of all that before joining the party; you guys and the people at Discord taught me a lot.
and I'm quite surprised about how many of my ideas that I contributed were actually used. Didn't think that would happen. Of course Sebastiàn had a lot to contribute as well, which I value greatly. EDIT: I'm so ready for the master puzzle this week. Not long now.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 16, 2018, 07:04:58 AM
And then the final solution of the grand hunt will be......












...........











EAT MY ASS AND BALLS :-D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 16, 2018, 07:34:23 AM
Haha that would be gold :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 16, 2018, 08:03:36 AM
And then the final solution of the grand hunt will be.....









...........











EAT MY ASS AND BALLS :-D
very slightly funny but highly unlikely
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Devin Townsend on October 16, 2018, 09:21:45 PM
EAT MY ASS AND BALLS :-D

What if for continuity's sake, they named the new album "My Ass And Balls"


Someone photoshop that  :lol


Btw, what happened to the old "make a fake new album cover" tradition? I miss that  :'(
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 17, 2018, 01:35:53 AM
Btw, what happened to the old "make a fake new album cover" tradition? I miss that  :'(

here you go (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43185.0)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 17, 2018, 11:21:05 AM
Btw, what happened to the old "make a fake new album cover" tradition? I miss that  :'(

We need another this kind of thread!!
here you go (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43185.0)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 18, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
Just two days left! HYPE TRAIN AT FULL STEAM!  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 18, 2018, 02:41:50 PM
But we should start getting clues tomorrow, right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 18, 2018, 03:02:25 PM
I suppose so, though I'm still pretty much confused about how it all works xD. The result of the last puzzle was posted Saturday, that's why I'm thinking we'll be getting the final result this Saturday.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 18, 2018, 03:21:26 PM
The result was posted Saturday because that's how long it took to solve it.

The one before that was solved within hours of posting.

It's conceivable that if the puzzle is posted tomorrow, we could have the answer as early as tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 18, 2018, 03:27:03 PM
The result was posted Saturday because that's how long it took to solve it.

The one before that was solved within hours of posting.

It's conceivable that if the puzzle is posted tomorrow, we could have the answer as early as tomorrow night.

Well, that makes me even more excited then! :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 18, 2018, 03:58:02 PM
But I think read somewhere that this last puzzle will be the most difficult of all. Meaning it could possibly lead us to one point to another and another until solved.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on October 18, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
But I think read somewhere that this last puzzle will be the most difficult of all. Meaning it could possibly lead us to one point to another and another until solved.

Boo-urns!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 18, 2018, 04:32:54 PM
But I think read somewhere that this last puzzle will be the most difficult of all. Meaning it could possibly lead us to one point to another and another until solved.

Well, I won't be bothered if it takes until Sunday to solve it, considering it's a day I get to relax and absorb in a chill mood whatever comes from the Treasure Hunt :)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 18, 2018, 05:34:49 PM
While everything is silent for one more night, I'd like to say thank you Freddy (and the band, of course) for running all of this! :) I joined the party on puzzle #4, and I never left it. I learnt a lot about cryptography, computers, history, and even the band itself. And, it was an enriching experience working with others much more skilled than me. (And, of course, I experienced the highlight of my 2018, which was seeing the band looking at a screen with my name on it. :))

Thanks!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DreamerTV on October 19, 2018, 04:17:57 AM
While everything is silent for one more night, I'd like to say thank you Freddy (and the band, of course) for running all of this! :) I joined the party on puzzle #4, and I never left it. I learnt a lot about cryptography, computers, history, and even the band itself. And, it was an enriching experience working with others much more skilled than me. (And, of course, I experienced the highlight of my 2018, which was seeing the band looking at a screen with my name on it. :))

Thanks!


That was really cool indeed!
And actually a very entertaining and new way to experience this new album cycle where instead of passivly waiting for news to come out people were made active protagonist of the process. 

TA was calling for this kind of treatment, it would have helped a lot to merge into the spirit of the album.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 19, 2018, 05:09:08 AM
While everything is silent for one more night, I'd like to say thank you Freddy (and the band, of course) for running all of this! :) I joined the party on puzzle #4, and I never left it. I learnt a lot about cryptography, computers, history, and even the band itself. And, it was an enriching experience working with others much more skilled than me. (And, of course, I experienced the highlight of my 2018, which was seeing the band looking at a screen with my name on it. :))

Thanks!


That was really cool indeed!
And actually a very entertaining and new way to experience this new album cycle where instead of passivly waiting for news to come out people were made active protagonist of the process. 

TA was calling for this kind of treatment, it would have helped a lot to merge into the spirit of the album.
on the other hand though, that would tell me the following: they didn't do it leading into TA, but now they're doing it, so: DT14 will likely be a great album and they've "learned something" and are "applying it now". (I don't want this to come off as me sounding overly arrogant though, hence the "")
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 19, 2018, 07:20:40 AM
It seemed like they tried to do something for TA, though not as elaborate and interactive as the scavenger hunt.

In October 2015 their website changed to a sign-up list for either "The Ravenskill Rebel Militia", or "The Great Northern Empire of America".

In the end, either Ahrys or Nafaryus sent us I think 3 emails total between October to January. I thought we'd get more, but that's okay.

Throughout those months, they also had a website that revealed one new character per week, as well as a small chunk of the track list. That weekly anticipation was amazing, especially when it was revealed that there was an ACT 1 and ACT 2, which all but confirmed it would be a double album.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 19, 2018, 07:25:47 AM
Yeah, the best part was seeing the tracklist growing on and on.

"Five tracks... well, maybe the third three are the classic combo intro + instrumental + first song, there's of course more"

"Eleven songs... yeah, that's more like it"

"TWENTY SONGS? OMFG"

That was great to witness in real time!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 19, 2018, 07:31:23 AM
LAST PUZZLE HAS BEGUN!!!!! :omg:





















 I am getting ready for when it actually starts.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on October 19, 2018, 09:20:26 AM
LAST PUZZLE HAS BEGUN!!!!! :omg

D'oh! I actually thought it was real until I scrolled down..
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 19, 2018, 03:02:08 PM
We still got nothing :-[ Getting a little impatient here.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 19, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
The hype makes it even tougher xD
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 19, 2018, 04:02:45 PM
In Italy another day is over ... 😑
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 19, 2018, 04:15:58 PM
I think Freddy is trolling us big time :lol either that or there’s a clue so hidden that none of us has seen it yet :eek
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 19, 2018, 04:27:37 PM
I think Freddy is trolling us big time :lol either that or there’s a clue so hidden that none of us has seen it yet :eek

Yeah, the lack of an update is part of the puzzle, LOL
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: geeeemo on October 19, 2018, 06:35:49 PM
I think Freddy is trolling us big time :lol either that or there’s a clue so hidden that none of us has seen it yet :eek

Yeah, the lack of an update is part of the puzzle, LOL

    .....::)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on October 20, 2018, 05:00:57 AM
It's all gone eerily quiet...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 20, 2018, 05:52:36 AM
A Dramatic Turn of Hype.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DreamerTV on October 20, 2018, 06:40:36 AM
Keep in mind that this will most likely lead to official news (let’s say artwork+tracklist+release date and info about tour?) so all need to be coordinated between band, label and management.
That’s why it’s not all up to “Freddy” and maybe things will be postponed to the beginning of the next week.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 20, 2018, 07:09:15 AM
Keep in mind that this will most likely lead to official news (let’s say artwork+tracklist+release date and info about tour?) so all need to be coordinated between band, label and management.
That’s why it’s not all up to “Freddy” and maybe things will be postponed to the beginning of the next week.

But Freddy wrote last Saturday: "The final puzzle will be given out next week" 🤔
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 20, 2018, 07:40:59 AM
Keep in mind that this will most likely lead to official news (let’s say artwork+tracklist+release date and info about tour?) so all need to be coordinated between band, label and management.
That’s why it’s not all up to “Freddy” and maybe things will be postponed to the beginning of the next week.

That makes sense indeed.

Even though it would be nice if people would solve the last riddle, going "OMG OMG THIS IS THE ALBUM TITLE" or the equivalent of it, and only after a day or two the band would finally confirm it with a proper announcement: "As word of this is going around thanks to a treasure hunt, we're happy to confirm that indeed our new album is called like this  and will be released on this date"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 20, 2018, 08:02:27 AM
It's all gone eerily quiet...

Freddy has now turned into the silent man
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 20, 2018, 08:32:08 AM
#PrayForFreddyJacobi
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 20, 2018, 01:17:02 PM
There has to be clue somewhere already....
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on October 20, 2018, 01:21:40 PM
:soon:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 20, 2018, 01:42:38 PM
All this wait makes me think we're waiting for news on the next Tool album :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 20, 2018, 05:51:18 PM
Is there anyone walking here?  :coolio
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 20, 2018, 05:53:55 PM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1053736285293211654

 :justjen
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on October 20, 2018, 06:13:07 PM
Is there anyone walking here?  :coolio

Almost 5h since the tweet. Let's hope we can get something else soon... :soon:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 20, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
The way this is going, we'll probably have the answers by next saturday :corn
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DreamerTV on October 21, 2018, 09:10:22 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1054024884207214592

Quote
5 would be the answer I was looking for. Life's true intent needs patience.

Next question: watch the sparrow fall - for four seconds at a speed of 76.5 kilometers per hour. How far did it go?

So, so far we have 5 and 85.

And also 4 miles and then 4 seconds
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 21, 2018, 11:18:07 AM
Quote from: DreamerTV link=topic=52696.msg2484011#msg2484011

So, so far we have 5 and 85.


Nugetzzzzzzzz!!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SwedishGoose on October 21, 2018, 11:25:39 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1054024884207214592

Quote
5 would be the answer I was looking for. Life's true intent needs patience.

Next question: watch the sparrow fall - for four seconds at a speed of 76.5 kilometers per hour. How far did it go?

So, so far we have 5 and 85.

And also 4 miles and then 4 seconds

So 5.85 or 6.25 minutes of the album is in 4/4
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on October 21, 2018, 11:43:45 AM
The songs referenced so far in these tweets are, in order:

The Silent Man
Breaking All Illusions
Pull Me Under

That's probably gonna be important
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Joshgirouard on October 21, 2018, 12:23:59 PM
5 songs totalling 85 mins
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on October 21, 2018, 01:02:06 PM
5 songs totalling 85 mins

Insanity
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Rushspirit2112 on October 21, 2018, 01:18:44 PM
5 songs totalling 85 mins
Only 80 minutes on a disc
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Fritzinger on October 21, 2018, 01:23:43 PM
5 songs totalling 85 mins
Only 80 minutes on a disc

Vinyl-only release confirmed
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 21, 2018, 01:33:01 PM
5 songs totalling 85 mins
Only 80 minutes on a disc

Vinyl-only release confirmed
please. No.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SwedishGoose on October 21, 2018, 01:36:04 PM
5 songs totalling 85 mins
Only 80 minutes on a disc

So it's 85 songs totalling 5 miutes.... wow, never thought that would happen
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 21, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
Guys, there were pictures of a board with "track #8" written on it released.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 21, 2018, 03:09:41 PM
Guys, there were pictures of a board with "track #8" written on it released.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 21, 2018, 04:43:06 PM
I'm refreshing this and twitter a lot. My hype has diminished just a liiiittle bit, but I know that the end result will be good.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 21, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
I'm refreshing this and twitter a lot. My hype has diminished just a liiiittle bit, but I know that the end result will be good.

Mine has diminished a lot more. Freddy is clearly playing with us by taking all the time in the world to post the clues, and it looks like it's going to take days, even the whole week, to finally get all we need to solve this. Instead of making me more excited, this just made me care less about it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 21, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
True. As mentioned before, it might have to do with the lable or the band. Maybe it's too early to hand out the info.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 21, 2018, 05:56:44 PM
True. As mentioned before, it might have to do with the lable or the band. Maybe it's too early to hand out the info.

Then, we'll know things along with the other 90% of the fanbase who aren't even aware there's a treasure hunt to begin with.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 21, 2018, 06:16:36 PM
The songs referenced so far in these tweets are, in order:

The Silent Man
Breaking All Illusions
Pull Me Under

That's probably gonna be important

Also worth noting, both questions involve unchanging velocity.

Or, constant motion  ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 21, 2018, 06:18:48 PM
I knew it would be this way, I think I said it in other post.
This time it will take more and more time to go from one point (clie) to the other.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 22, 2018, 02:03:30 AM
True. As mentioned before, it might have to do with the lable or the band. Maybe it's too early to hand out the info.

Then, we'll know things along with the other 90% of the fanbase who aren't even aware there's a treasure hunt to begin with.

Well, imagine that the final treasure is the title of the new album, or the artwork, or as someone suggested a clip of the band rehearsing a new song in the studio. Once that is found out, how long do you think it takes for the news to spread around like wildfire? it's unrealistic that someone discovers, say, on the 26th of October pivotal news about the new album, and only on the 10th of November the band says "Oh, btw, as you all know already by word of mouth, the new album title is this".

I believe that the treasure seekers will be the first to learn details about the new record, but it won't take long after that for a formal announcement. Didn't Freddy anyway say something like "Well, it's up to the one that solves the puzzle to share what he/she finds"... they basically WANT the first one to solve it to post it everywhere, and after that will obviously come a former announcement.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: hacko on October 22, 2018, 02:57:42 AM
The songs referenced so far in these tweets are, in order:

The Silent Man
Breaking All Illusions
Pull Me Under

That's probably gonna be important

Perhaps together with the fact that at the end of each week the solution was related to a specific album...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 22, 2018, 03:01:09 AM
And for the people thinking it takes too long this time around : Freddi had announced that this puzzle would be harder to solve. It's a little bit frustrating but for me, it's part of the hype even more.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 22, 2018, 07:05:49 AM
Is anyone here traveling in space?  :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Vandalism on October 22, 2018, 07:08:17 AM
Freddie just Tweeted : "Traveling through both space and time, out of control, my wheels in constant motion. Going 186282 miles per second for 1578000 minutes how far do we go?"

The short answer is 3 light years. 186282 miles per second is the speed of light and 3 years have 1578000 minutes.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Vandalism on October 22, 2018, 07:20:27 AM
I guess the answers will form some code : 5-85-3-...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 22, 2018, 07:30:11 AM
And for the people thinking it takes too long this time around : Freddi had announced that this puzzle would be harder to solve. It's a little bit frustrating but for me, it's part of the hype even more.

B.Lee

Yeah it should definitely be harder to solve, but the frustrating thing is not that it's too hard, but that we're getting small pieces many hours apart. I think most of us prefer that it be really hard but at least have all the clues in front of us.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 22, 2018, 07:42:04 AM
Recap of what we have so far, along with the songs that were referenced:

The Silent Man : 5 hours

Breaking All Illusions

Pull Me Under: 85 meters

Constant Motion: 3 light years.

Also maybe noteworthy is that in the CM tweet, he omitted "Out of body, out of mind", though it might just be that he was quoting James's lines, and not an intentional coded omission
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Vandalism on October 22, 2018, 08:00:54 AM
Recap of what we have so far, along with the songs that were referenced:

The Silent Man : 5 hours

Breaking All Illusions

Pull Me Under: 85 meters

Constant Motion: 3 light years.

Also maybe noteworthy is that in the CM tweet, he omitted "Out of body, out of mind", though it might just be that he was quoting James's lines, and not an intentional coded omission

Out of body, out of mind, out of band!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 22, 2018, 08:24:45 AM
Recap of what we have so far, along with the songs that were referenced:

The Silent Man : 5 hours

Breaking All Illusions

Pull Me Under: 85 meters

Constant Motion: 3 light years.

Also maybe noteworthy is that in the CM tweet, he omitted "Out of body, out of mind", though it might just be that he was quoting James's lines, and not an intentional coded omission

Out of body, out of mind, out of band!

 :justjen  :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 22, 2018, 11:34:25 AM
The songs referenced so far in these tweets are, in order:

The Silent Man
Breaking All Illusions
Pull Me Under

That's probably gonna be important

Perhaps together with the fact that at the end of each week the solution was related to a specific album...

If it's like that now too, with one song per day with us having to wait another two weeks, then I my hype will really hit the bottom. Hopefully it's not like that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Rushspirit2112 on October 22, 2018, 01:19:51 PM
If they just had the puzzle end this weekend or even today, it would have been a lot more exciting.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on October 22, 2018, 01:37:22 PM
The songs referenced so far in these tweets are, in order:

The Silent Man
Breaking All Illusions
Pull Me Under

That's probably gonna be important

Perhaps together with the fact that at the end of each week the solution was related to a specific album...

Counting Constant Motion now, there's been only one song from each album so far.

I think you're on to something there
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 22, 2018, 02:14:27 PM
The songs referenced so far in these tweets are, in order:

The Silent Man
Breaking All Illusions
Pull Me Under

That's probably gonna be important

Perhaps together with the fact that at the end of each week the solution was related to a specific album...

Counting Constant Motion now, there's been only one song from each album so far.

I think you're on to something there

When we have the other songs (one from each album released) we will have the first single, title album plus release date
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 22, 2018, 03:17:20 PM
Oh, man... see everyone in 2 weeks, I guess :/
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 23, 2018, 07:38:44 AM
Has anyone seen a dog? 😂
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on October 23, 2018, 08:03:34 AM
So now we're on:

Pull Me Under
The Silent Man
I Walk Beside You
Constant Motion
The Count of Tuscany
Breaking All Illusions

Answers: 5-85-3-10
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 23, 2018, 11:55:21 AM
Well, at least we got two songs this time, lol.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DreamerTV on October 24, 2018, 05:12:11 AM
So far it has been all about distance and speed, do you guys think it means something?
Also, what about the referenced songs? Have they something in common? Except the obvious fact of being DT songs :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on October 24, 2018, 05:19:19 AM
So far it has been all about distance and speed, do you guys think it means something?
Also, what about the referenced songs? Have they something in common? Except the obvious fact of being DT songs :D

As my memory recalls, PMU and TCOT have aleady been referenced in the Treasure Hunt.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 24, 2018, 07:11:20 AM
Honestly....I'd look where the story began.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 24, 2018, 08:18:32 AM
I've refreshed Freddy's twitter page so often that I'm now getting targeted ads for other renovation companies
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Eldomm on October 24, 2018, 09:24:02 AM
I've refreshed Freddy's twitter page so often that I'm now getting targeted ads for other renovation companies

 :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 24, 2018, 12:53:12 PM
Well, at least we got two songs this time, lol.

And today we got nothing.   :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 24, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
As I said....it ends where it began. Begin Again .
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 25, 2018, 08:53:05 AM
Is anyone going to the market? 😂
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 25, 2018, 10:46:37 AM
Is anyone going to the market? 😂

Yes, Freddy Jacobi ( :biggrin:) :

"Me and my (half-a-)dog were on the way to market. At a distance of 10km, we met 5 cats running at 20km/h, 14 sheep going at 5km/h and we saw 56 cow legs, 144 chicken legs, and two alligators. In this nightmare to remember, how many went to market?"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 25, 2018, 10:50:22 AM
Either we go with the original "St. Ives" answer, and say that none of the animals mentioned are on the way to the market (besides the dog), or we assume all of them are going to market.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 25, 2018, 12:04:34 PM
Is anyone going to the market? 😂

Yes, Freddy Jacobi ( :biggrin:) :


And his (half-a-)dog 😂
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 25, 2018, 01:18:56 PM
Is anyone going to the market? 😂

Yes, Freddy Jacobi ( :biggrin:) :


And his (half-a-)dog 😂

 :lol Yeah! It makes me Wonder : does that make 2 or 1.5? :justjen
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 25, 2018, 01:25:25 PM
Probably just reference to the previous riddle.

He said "my friend's dog" in the first tweet, but then said "my dog" in the next.

Someone asked "Is it yours or your friend's?" and he replied that they own half the dog each.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 25, 2018, 01:48:34 PM
And that he divided the dog from nose to tail xD
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 25, 2018, 02:04:14 PM
OK, I hadn't followed this.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on October 25, 2018, 02:37:24 PM
As I said....it ends where it began. Begin Again .

Do you know something we don't? The beginning was the link to Freddy's Twitter which in turn took us to the Vail Renovations website.  Hmm.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: AboutToCrash on October 25, 2018, 05:13:39 PM
And that he divided the dog from nose to tail xD

RAWDOG
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 25, 2018, 05:40:06 PM
And that he divided the dog from nose to tail xD

RAWDOG

TreasurehuntisactuallyleadingustoRAWDOGpart2confirmed
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 26, 2018, 01:02:31 AM
Come on, it's obviously the case of the missing dog.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 26, 2018, 01:10:55 AM
So, I just caught up & solved with all the tweets so far:
Q1: 5 hours
Q2: 85m
Q3: 3 light years
Q4: 10 miles
Q5: 21 (assuming all the moving animals were going towards to market & the unmoving ones weren't)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 26, 2018, 02:13:37 AM
So, I just caught up & solved with all the tweets so far:
Q1: 5 hours
Q2: 85m
Q3: 3 light years
Q4: 10 miles
Q5: 21 (assuming all the moving animals were going towards to market & the unmoving ones weren't)

Q5 : yes, but even the "unmoving" ones may have been moving if, say, transported in trucks for example. In that case, they Don't move by themselves but they are moved by another means.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on October 26, 2018, 02:25:38 AM
Generally, when you meet someone on the road, you don't go the same way they do.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 26, 2018, 03:08:41 AM
So, I just caught up & solved with all the tweets so far:
Q1: 5 hours
Q2: 85m
Q3: 3 light years
Q4: 10 miles
Q5: 21 (assuming all the moving animals were going towards to market & the unmoving ones weren't)

Q5= 2 😉
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 26, 2018, 03:46:07 AM
Generally, when you meet someone on the road, you don't go the same way they do.

oh, right :facepalm:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 26, 2018, 04:32:40 AM
Generally, when you meet someone on the road, you don't go the same way they do.

oh, right :facepalm:

It's not necessarily true : you can overtake them if they're going the same way as you are at a slower pace. Or I don't understand the word "meet", which is quite probable as well! :rollin

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Vandalism on October 26, 2018, 05:16:04 AM
Maybe the answers form a phone number we need to call just like the first puzzle.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: |KirK| on October 26, 2018, 05:51:31 AM
Freddy + 1/2 dog= 1,5   :\

I know, it doesn't have any sense...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 26, 2018, 05:55:13 AM
Generally, when you meet someone on the road, you don't go the same way they do.

oh, right :facepalm:

It's not necessarily true : you can overtake them if they're going the same way as you are at a slower pace. Or I don't understand the word "meet", which is quite probable as well! :rollin

B.Lee

Have you heard the riddle that begins "as i was going to st ives, i met a man with 40 wives...."?

I'm thinking it's the same logic here
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 26, 2018, 06:25:42 AM
Maybe the answers form a phone number we need to call just like the first puzzle.

Only 3 numbers at the end 😎
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: fivestring on October 26, 2018, 07:08:47 AM
If the St. Ives route is taken with this riddle, there would be a lot of superfluous information. The St. Ives riddle does that as well, but I doubt the rates of speed listed for a couple of groups of animals are insignificant here. The other riddles so far have been simply stated. If the St. Ives riddle format would have been used, it would have been more apparent. All the numbers in this recent riddle are likely of use in finding the solution. No other riddles had superfluous data.

Just some pondering aloud here as to discern what the relevant data is for this one....
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Indiscipline on October 26, 2018, 07:14:40 AM
John McClane and Zeus Carver already solved that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Vandalism on October 26, 2018, 08:27:24 AM
Maybe the answers form a phone number we need to call just like the first puzzle.

Only 3 numbers at the end 😎

with more puzzles it may eventually be complete
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 26, 2018, 08:36:40 AM
Generally, when you meet someone on the road, you don't go the same way they do.

oh, right :facepalm:

It's not necessarily true : you can overtake them if they're going the same way as you are at a slower pace. Or I don't understand the word "meet", which is quite probable as well! :rollin

B.Lee

Have you heard the riddle that begins "as i was going to st ives, i met a man with 40 wives...."?

I'm thinking it's the same logic here

Oh, OK.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on October 26, 2018, 09:00:09 AM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825 (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825)

The Treasure Hunt has been extended according to Cpt. James.  New question today too which I have no idea about. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 26, 2018, 09:03:52 AM
:lol  James is such a supreme goofball.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 26, 2018, 09:05:49 AM
He said bus when he meant Train.

When he says "they need to be back in 8 hours", I take that to mean "it takes them 8 hours to get home".
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on October 26, 2018, 09:20:48 AM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825 (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825)

The Treasure Hunt has been extended according to Cpt. James.  New question today too which I have no idea about. 

DT went :soon:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Vandalism on October 26, 2018, 10:18:06 AM
He said bus when he meant Train.

When he says "they need to be back in 8 hours", I take that to mean "it takes them 8 hours to get home".

I think their whole trip starting with the train journey and ending at home took 8 hours. That would present a distinct solution = 4 hours
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on October 26, 2018, 10:46:03 AM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825 (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825)

The Treasure Hunt has been extended according to Cpt. James.  New question today too which I have no idea about.
Haven’t watched the video but assume the treasure’s not ready - also hence Q16 being drawn out?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on October 26, 2018, 10:59:04 AM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825 (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825)

The Treasure Hunt has been extended according to Cpt. James.  New question today too which I have no idea about.
Haven’t watched the video but assume the treasure’s not ready - also hence Q16 being drawn out?

James does say "you're gonna have to stay invested much longer". I'm wondering if it will be a couple more weeks yet, maybe with a few more extra puzzles, who knows? 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 26, 2018, 11:03:59 AM
"Invested MUCH longer"?
Oh, man... :(
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 26, 2018, 11:12:01 AM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825 (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825)

The Treasure Hunt has been extended according to Cpt. James.  New question today too which I have no idea about. 

DT went :soon:

Exactly
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 26, 2018, 11:18:54 AM
At this point, just extend it up to December and give me it as a birthday gift, lol.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 26, 2018, 11:35:10 AM
Someone called this number? 585 310 2520 🤔
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 26, 2018, 12:18:52 PM
Am I the only one getting a bit disappointed by all of this? I mean, we were supposed to get something after 16 weeks and now we’re going to have to wait even longer? I don’t want to be THAT guy who complains about these things, but I sincerily hoped to have something by now. My hype is pretty much gone at this point, even though I know all my discomfort will disappear once we get some actual updates on the new album  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 26, 2018, 12:20:00 PM
Someone called this number? 585 310 2520 🤔

I think a few puzzles ago we decided to stop calling random numbers. I'm not going to debate the meaning of the word "random" in this context. Of course it's not completely random, but we're just inputting the answers the order we received them, without being 100% sure that's what we're supposed to do.

The 585 is alluring, because it's a Rochester area code, which seems like it could be the area of their secret recording studio.



All this to say....I already tried calling that number this morning and it led to the voicemail of an actual human person with (probably) no affiliation to the band.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 26, 2018, 12:50:24 PM
Am I the only one getting a bit disappointed by all of this? I mean, we were supposed to get something after 16 weeks and now we’re going to have to wait even longer? I don’t want to be THAT guy who complains about these things, but I sincerily hoped to have something by now. My hype is pretty much gone at this point, even though I know all my discomfort will disappear once we get some actual updates on the new album  :lol

I'm with you. I am disappointed, although I don't want to also be THAT guy and sound like a spoiled fan. My hype is at 10% and nearing 0.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 26, 2018, 12:53:24 PM
Am I the only one getting a bit disappointed by all of this? I mean, we were supposed to get something after 16 weeks and now we’re going to have to wait even longer? I don’t want to be THAT guy who complains about these things, but I sincerily hoped to have something by now. My hype is pretty much gone at this point, even though I know all my discomfort will disappear once we get some actual updates on the new album  :lol

I have purposely avoided asking certain questions about the end game of the game because I don't want to know.  But I can say this:  there are legitimate reasons why it is being extended.  They aren't just trying to jerk people around.  So be patient. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 26, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
Oh, I know they are nice and wouldn't jerk us around. I just hope this doesn't involve any possible delays to the actual album release or anything of the sort.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on October 26, 2018, 01:00:54 PM
Wishful thinking: They are extending the puzzle to buy some time with pressing/distribution logistics and will release the album out of the blue, sooner than everyone expects... Something like A7X's The Stage.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Zook on October 26, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
Maybe they noticed something wrong with the album art. Did they hire Hugh Syme again?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 26, 2018, 01:10:13 PM
Wishful thinking: They are extending the puzzle to buy some time with pressing/distribution logistics and will release the album out of the blue, sooner than everyone expects... Something like A7X's The Stage.

Dream Theater does not have the luxury of releasing something out of the blue like A7X and Eminem have done recently. The fans will always support them, but they also benefit from the casual listeners, who would need to be made aware by a slow and long marketing campaign.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 26, 2018, 01:13:01 PM
Wishful thinking: They are extending the puzzle to buy some time with pressing/distribution logistics and will release the album out of the blue, sooner than everyone expects... Something like A7X's The Stage.

I think more likely for a proper announcement of a new album all things have to fall into place - a single, a release date estabilished by the label, the way the promotional cycle will unfold, the end of the mastering above all etc etc, and one of these or other details is taking longer than expected.

Hell, maybe the tour announcement might be a part of it, they may want to announce the tour dates along with the album news and they have to finalize the tour details.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 26, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
Oh, I know they are nice and wouldn't jerk us around. I just hope this doesn't involve any possible delays to the actual album release or anything of the sort.

Although release dates can get pushed for any number of reasons, as far as I know, there is no delay on the release date for this album.  That is still on track unless something has happened in the interim that I am unaware of.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 26, 2018, 01:32:43 PM
Oh, I know they are nice and wouldn't jerk us around. I just hope this doesn't involve any possible delays to the actual album release or anything of the sort.

Although release dates can get pushed for any number of reasons, as far as I know, there is no delay on the release date for this album.  That is still on track unless something has happened in the interim that I am unaware of.

I'm glad there is no delay in the release date. Somebody else noticed that James says we'll get "everything" once the hunt is over? This has gotten me hyped : everything?!?

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 26, 2018, 01:53:24 PM
Sorry, double post.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Fritzinger on October 26, 2018, 02:01:50 PM
Maybe they noticed something wrong with the album art. Did they hire Hugh Syme again?

I feel bad about having to laugh about this comment...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on October 26, 2018, 03:03:47 PM
Maybe they are trying not to compete with (or drown out) Haken's 'Vector' that was dropped today? lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 26, 2018, 03:07:41 PM
No, that has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 26, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
Yeah, I mean, if that were the case, I suppose the hunt would have ended when we previously thought it would, which is before Haken's album.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2018, 03:39:23 PM
Maybe they are trying not to compete with (or drown out) Haken's 'Vector' that was dropped today? lol

Why would that matter?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 26, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
Same label, Inside Out records.

Hypothetically, they wouldn't want to steal the thunder of a brand new album from their own label
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on October 26, 2018, 03:46:00 PM
Wishful thinking: They are extending the puzzle to buy some time with pressing/distribution logistics and will release the album out of the blue, sooner than everyone expects... Something like A7X's The Stage.

Eh, if they learned anything from that it is to not go that route   A7X have been outspoken about how that was a terrible idea and The Stage has been their worst selling album because it didn't go through the promotion cycle.  These things don't work unless you are Beyonce or similar.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2018, 03:48:04 PM
Same label, Inside Out records.

Hypothetically, they wouldn't want to steal the thunder of a brand new album from their own label

OK, but that'd be pretty poor planning on the label's part from the start, no?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 26, 2018, 03:51:35 PM
If Haken's album bombs, it will be because it just isn't very good.  DT's treasure hunt game has nothing to do with that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2018, 03:58:03 PM
Zaccly.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on October 26, 2018, 04:44:45 PM
The 585 is alluring, because it's a Rochester area code, which seems like it could be the area of their secret recording studio.

It's not.  The studio is in the 845 area code.

By the way, the whole "story ends where it began" thing led me to call the phone number that gave the first clue (Syme2009).  Unfortunately, the recording at that number is the same as it ever was.


we were supposed to get something after 16 weeks and now we’re going to have to wait even longer?

We were?  I may be wrong, but I don't recall being told it would take exactly X-period of time.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 26, 2018, 05:29:09 PM
We were?  I may be wrong, but I don't recall being told it would take exactly X-period of time.
You are correct - there was never a promise about how long exactly the hunt would be.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 26, 2018, 08:12:21 PM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825 (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825)

The Treasure Hunt has been extended according to Cpt. James.  New question today too which I have no idea about.
Haven’t watched the video but assume the treasure’s not ready - also hence Q16 being drawn out?
By the way, Rob: a few people in the Discord channel have asked about you - whether you eventually joined the channel or not. They appreciate a lot your involvement back when the hunt started, and they feel that it would be nice to have you on the team there, for this final puzzle.

I've already invited you to join, but, of course, here's the link again, if you decide to help us:
https://discord.gg/y4hg6BJ

(And, once again: thanks for sharing Freddy's e-mails! The document I put together has screenshots of them, with your credit at the bottom. You'll see. :))
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Stef1 on October 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
I am loving following this thread, I have no idea what is going on, but its the most interesting thread since the launch of the DT album.
Thanks to all you mega brains involved.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Fritzinger on October 27, 2018, 11:39:50 AM
I am loving following this thread, I have no idea what is going on, but its the most interesting thread since the launch of the DT album.
Thanks to all you mega brains involved.

Absolutely this!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RoeDent on October 27, 2018, 01:23:10 PM
I honestly have no idea what's going on here. We'll get the album when we get it, end of. Unless the album's concept is Faythe, Gabriel and Xander go treasure hunting.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 28, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
I honestly have no idea what's going on here. We'll get the album when we get it, end of. Unless the album's concept is Faythe, Gabriel and Xander go treasure hunting.
Well, as a child behind the palace walls, often times Fatyhe'd search its secret halls; and hoping she would find a treasure cast aside, she came upon the greatest gift of all.

So maybe.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 28, 2018, 11:37:58 AM
I honestly have no idea what's going on here. We'll get the album when we get it, end of. Unless the album's concept is Faythe, Gabriel and Xander go treasure hunting.
Well, as a child behind the palace walls, often times Fatyhe'd search its secret halls; and hoping she would find a treasure cast aside, she came upon the greatest gift of all.

So maybe.

Her muuuuuuuuusic plaaaaayer, with DT 14's first single :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 28, 2018, 12:20:01 PM
They are from the future after all :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on October 28, 2018, 01:09:01 PM
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825 (https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055829937800781825)

The Treasure Hunt has been extended according to Cpt. James.  New question today too which I have no idea about.
Haven’t watched the video but assume the treasure’s not ready - also hence Q16 being drawn out?
By the way, Rob: a few people in the Discord channel have asked about you - whether you eventually joined the channel or not. They appreciate a lot your involvement back when the hunt started, and they feel that it would be nice to have you on the team there, for this final puzzle.

I've already invited you to join, but, of course, here's the link again, if you decide to help us:
https://discord.gg/y4hg6BJ

(And, once again: thanks for sharing Freddy's e-mails! The document I put together has screenshots of them, with your credit at the bottom. You'll see. :))
I did! I joined in a little bit with puzzle fifteen - nothing of value, just mindspaff. I was using a username though so you might not have caught me! I've read through the document, too - the level of detail is properly incredible. Really cool work!


Am I the only one getting a bit disappointed by all of this? I mean, we were supposed to get something after 16 weeks and now we’re going to have to wait even longer? I don’t want to be THAT guy who complains about these things, but I sincerily hoped to have something by now. My hype is pretty much gone at this point, even though I know all my discomfort will disappear once we get some actual updates on the new album  :lol

I have purposely avoided asking certain questions about the end game of the game because I don't want to know.  But I can say this:  there are legitimate reasons why it is being extended.  They aren't just trying to jerk people around.  So be patient. 
I'm certain that's true, and I'm certain they're disappointed that they're delaying it, too. But I liked the idea there was something hidden out there and we were slowly uncovering it - it really caught my imagination. Now it feels a bit like, "I know you've done all the tasks but we haven't actually buried the treasure yet, give us a second!"  It's like finishing your advent calendar then finding out Christmas has been delayed!

I know they wouldn't do this deliberately and I'm delighted that they set it all up, but I'd be lying if I said this didn't undermine it a little bit. But I'm not going to complain too much, because I'm sure it was unavoidable, and I'm certain it'll be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: nikatapi on October 28, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
I really hope this whole thing leads to the reveal of something more than just album title- cover - tracklist. A single would be nice.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on October 28, 2018, 01:29:30 PM
I really hope this whole thing leads to the reveal of something more than just album title- cover - tracklist. A single would be nice.

Well, even if it's just that, still someone will find out before anyone else, and before the usual press release will announce it to the world. That's already something.  Then the more, the better of course.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 28, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
I did! I joined in a little bit with puzzle fifteen - nothing of value, just mindspaff. I was using a username though so you might not have caught me! I've read through the document, too - the level of detail is properly incredible. Really cool work!
Thanks! :) And glad you joined! You know, another channel called '#dt-arg-end-game' was created exclusively for the solving of this final puzzle. (That's why you'll see that '#dt-arg' has looked a bit 'empty' over the last week.

If you want to join this new channel, just write to users 'Hyrul' or 'el_deadache', or simply post a request in '#dt-arg', saying who you are. They'll surely let you in immediately. (Or, if you'd rather, tell me what your username is, and I talk to them; I think it's them who are in charge of allowing people in.)

OK see you!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 28, 2018, 03:16:40 PM
I did! I joined in a little bit with puzzle fifteen - nothing of value, just mindspaff. I was using a username though so you might not have caught me! I've read through the document, too - the level of detail is properly incredible. Really cool work!
Thanks! :) And glad you joined! You know, another channel called '#dt-arg-end-game' was created exclusively for the solving of this final puzzle. (That's why you'll see that '#dt-arg' has looked a bit 'empty' over the last week.

If you want to join this new channel, just write to users 'Hyrul' or 'el_deadache', or simply post a request in '#dt-arg', saying who you are. They'll surely let you in immediately. (Or, if you'd rather, tell me what your username is, and I talk to them; I think it's them who are in charge of allowing people in.)

OK see you!
it definitely was el_deadache who reached out to me, so either him or Hyrul may contact Rob as well.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on October 29, 2018, 12:41:13 PM
Not dead yet, but waiting in a meeting to occur before I can proceed. Tomorrow, hopefully.
3:37 PM · Oct 29, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1056933043624165376

Could the next clue be the last? I’d have expected Freddy to just keep slow-walking them if not.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 29, 2018, 12:46:41 PM
Not dead yet, but waiting in a meeting to occur before I can proceed. Tomorrow, hopefully.
3:37 PM · Oct 29, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1056933043624165376

Could the next clue be the last? I’d have expected Freddy to just keep slow-walking them if not.

Yeah, I suppose if he had more simple puzzle like questions he wouldn't need to wait for a meeting to post them. Just a guess.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 30, 2018, 09:41:32 AM
I just finished watching the third video of happy birthday messages to Inside Out (uploaded to the label's channel last week), and this guy Kavus congratulates "Freddy and Jessica". (I'm assuming they are people working in the label.)

I couldn't help but think they are our dear Freddy Jacobi. :) (Maybe that explains the "Frederica" thing!)

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPYTMBQJwg

(Here's the one with Dream Theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ5YnkPhI0g)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 30, 2018, 10:20:17 AM
I just finished watching the third video of happy birthday messages to Inside Out (uploaded to the label's channel last week), and this guy Kavus congratulates "Freddy and Jessica". (I'm assuming they are people working in the label.)

I couldn't help but think they are our dear Freddy Jacobi. :) (Maybe that explains the "Frederica" thing!)

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPYTMBQJwg

(Here's the one with Dream Theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ5YnkPhI0g)

Good catch, Sebastian!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 30, 2018, 11:38:48 AM
Good catch, Sebastian!
Thanks!

Someone on Discord found the Century Media page with all the staff (https://www.centurymedia.com/staff/international/); those guys are probably Freddy Palmer and Jessica Lausen, who apparently do A&R.

Probably all a coincidence, though.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on October 30, 2018, 12:24:07 PM
Good catch, Sebastian!
Thanks!

Someone on Discord found the Century Media page with all the staff (https://www.centurymedia.com/staff/international/); those guys are probably Freddy Palmer and Jessica Lausen, who apparently do A&R.

Probably all a coincidence, though.

Thanks, Sebastian. Here is the working link (you included the parenthesis in yours ;) ):

https://www.centurymedia.com/staff/international/ (https://www.centurymedia.com/staff/international/)


B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 30, 2018, 12:25:50 PM
Oh, shoot. Sorry! :P Well, there you go.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 30, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
Oh, I know they are nice and wouldn't jerk us around. I just hope this doesn't involve any possible delays to the actual album release or anything of the sort.

Although release dates can get pushed for any number of reasons, as far as I know, there is no delay on the release date for this album.  That is still on track unless something has happened in the interim that I am unaware of.

Just to come back to this, the most recent interview with Jordan that was posted earlier today confirms a release date around the time I had previously been told.  So, yeah, we're still on track.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 30, 2018, 12:54:04 PM
Oh, I know they are nice and wouldn't jerk us around. I just hope this doesn't involve any possible delays to the actual album release or anything of the sort.

Although release dates can get pushed for any number of reasons, as far as I know, there is no delay on the release date for this album.  That is still on track unless something has happened in the interim that I am unaware of.

Just to come back to this, the most recent interview with Jordan that was posted earlier today confirms a release date around the time I had previously been told.  So, yeah, we're still on track.
which one are you referring to, bosk?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 30, 2018, 01:04:38 PM
This one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=156&v=zagJiAe_r2E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=156&v=zagJiAe_r2E)

Another new interview from Jordan.  He states that the new album will be coming out around late February time.  The album is currently being mixed and that he can't wait to unleash the details about it "very very soon, it's just right around the corner". 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Max Kuehnau on October 30, 2018, 01:09:22 PM
ah ok. Thought so, but it's better to ask one more time as opposed to blindly assume I think. Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on October 30, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
No problem.  I should have probably been more clear.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 30, 2018, 01:56:50 PM
Considering a late February release, is it still too early to hope for a single or is that fine?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 30, 2018, 02:06:43 PM
Judging by The Astonishing, The release date was end of January and The Gift of Music was released December 3rd.
That's 2 months.

Albums are usually released on Fridays, so "late February" might only mean February 22. 2 months before that would be around Christmas.

Other considerations: Self-titled was released September 23rd, with The Enemy Inside coming out August 5th.

ADTOE came out September 12, OTBOA was released June 29th, 2 months and 13 days prior.

If we cross our fingers and hope they follow the ADTOE cycle, we're due for our first single in the beginning of December.

On the other hand, if we want to be EXTREMELY optimistic, we can look at Coheed and Cambria, whose new album came out October 5th, while their first single was released May 31, a whopping 4 months before release!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on October 30, 2018, 02:08:28 PM
Maybe it will be this years holiday gift to the fans
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
Maybe it will be this years holiday gift to the fans

Exactly.

On The Backs Of Angels was released "early" because they were going on tour that summer.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 30, 2018, 02:15:18 PM
Oh, I was hoping for a single at the end of the treasure hunt. I guess that's too early then xD
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 30, 2018, 02:17:11 PM
Judging by The Astonishing, The release date was end of January and The Gift of Music was released December 15th.

1.5 months.

Albums are usually released on Fridays, so "late February" might only mean February 22. 1.5 months before that would be around January 8th.

Other considerations: Self-titled was released September 23rd, with The Enemy Inside coming out August 5th.

ADTOE came out September 12, OTBOA was released June 29th, 2 months and 13 days prior.

If we cross our fingers and hope they follow the ADTOE cycle, we're due for our first single in the beginning of December.

On the other hand, if we want to be EXTREMELY optimistic, we can look at Coheed and Cambria, whose new album came out October 5th, while their first single was released May 31, a whopping 4 months before release!
The Gift of Music was released December 4 😉
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on October 30, 2018, 02:21:34 PM

The Gift of Music was released December 4 😉

Thanks, I was getting my information from a sentence in the Wikipedia article. It turns out the release date of December 3rd was on the sidebar of the page.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on October 30, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
What if the treasure hunt ends in December? :eek
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on October 30, 2018, 03:28:02 PM
The Gift of Music was released December 4 😉
No it wasn't. My birthday is December 3, and I remember being so happy because they uploaded the song on YouTube that day.

See: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/inside-dream-theaters-wildly-ambitious-new-concept-lp-57856/
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on October 30, 2018, 03:36:40 PM
My birthday is December 8th. It would be a nice gift, but I would rather have it earlier. :p
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on October 30, 2018, 04:06:14 PM
The Gift of Music was released December 4 😉
No it wasn't. My birthday is December 3, and I remember being so happy because they uploaded the song on YouTube that day.

See: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/inside-dream-theaters-wildly-ambitious-new-concept-lp-57856/

Yes! On youtube 3 December but officially released on December 4 😉
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on November 01, 2018, 06:40:03 AM
Is this the calm before the storm? No update from Freddy since Monday. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 01, 2018, 06:59:04 AM
Is he still waiting for the meeting?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MinistroRaven on November 01, 2018, 07:16:59 AM
Probably the meeting got canceled and rescheduled
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: DreamerTV on November 01, 2018, 04:12:20 PM
It's just a matter of time
You can have the world at your feet
By tomorrow
Just sign on this line
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Setlist Scotty on November 01, 2018, 04:20:23 PM
Is he still waiting for the meeting?
:soon:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 01, 2018, 05:20:54 PM
It's just a matter of time
You can have the world at your feet
By tomorrow
Just sign on this line

That would be cool, wouldn't it?  ;)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on November 02, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
"@FreddyJacobi

Are you ready to continue? I know I am! Tell your friends to be ready!"

 :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on November 02, 2018, 08:45:33 AM
More like ready to be done 😂
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 09:51:02 AM
More like ready to be done 😂

Yep :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on November 02, 2018, 11:50:06 AM
Exciting times as we're on the final home stretch of the game now :) Hope you all have had fun, and sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 11:52:39 AM
Exciting times as we're on the final home stretch of the game now :) Hope you all have had fun, and sorry for the delay.

It's ok :)







GIVE US FINAL PUZZLE NAWR!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on November 02, 2018, 11:56:18 AM
Exciting times as we're on the final home stretch of the game now :) Hope you all have had fun, and sorry for the delay.

I'm nowhere near clever enough to understand half of it but I've enjoyed the hunt. Thanks for doing this Freddy!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Freddy Jacobi on November 02, 2018, 12:09:44 PM


GIVE US FINAL PUZZLE NAWR!

Already done that! Go solve it!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on November 02, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
Freddy's Twitter: A final, easy one: If you go for 3 hours at 30 miles per hour, how many miles do you go?

Another tweet: Time to revisit the past...

So the answers to all of the questions are (I think):
Q1: 5
Q2: 85
Q3: 3
Q4: 10
Q5: 2
Q6: 5 hours 20 minutes or 320 minutes
Q7: 90
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 12:29:07 PM
Exciting times as we're on the final home stretch of the game now :) Hope you all have had fun, and sorry for the delay.

No problem there, Freddy. It was an exciting trip. Kuddos to you for putting all this in place.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 12:30:49 PM
I wonder if the final tweet is related to where we need to input everything.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on November 02, 2018, 01:01:35 PM
Well done to the GDOC/Discord guys for solving it! Liking this!

https://37311319.com/final.php?share=true (https://37311319.com/final.php?share=true)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 01:06:09 PM
I might need a change of pants...
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 01:06:58 PM
I love how the last maths/physics questions were related to the actual album name xD. And oh em gee, those riffs!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on November 02, 2018, 01:08:30 PM
I might need a change of pants...

Indeed dude, that snippet was f***ing awesome!!!  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 02, 2018, 01:09:58 PM
I might need a change of pants...

Indeed dude, that snippet was f***ing awesome!!!  :metal :metal :metal

link?? plz
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on November 02, 2018, 01:11:19 PM
I might need a change of pants...

Indeed dude, that snippet was f***ing awesome!!!  :metal :metal :metal

link?? plz

https://37311319.com/final.php?share=true
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: V_R11 on November 02, 2018, 01:11:43 PM
Holyyyy f*ck that was awesome

Is it February yet?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: jonny108 on November 02, 2018, 01:13:06 PM
November 2, 2018

For Immediate Release

Dream Theater's upcoming release, "Distance Over Time", comes out in February, 2019. To announce the details of the band's most recent offering, Dream Theater has enlisted the help of fans to spread the word about the release and even to break the news of the record release date, cover artwork, and to share the first taste of never before heard music. With this album, a return to the band's roots, Dream Theater hoped to create a fan engagement experience unlike any previously undertaken.

(https://i.imgur.com/LFjwIZJ.jpg)

To lead into the initial release of material, an Alternate Reality Game was launched. This game encompassed a "treasure hunt" whereby fans were able to search for clues hidden in various photos, video, social media posts, and more. Cooperation to host the Alternate Reality Game focused on various fan communities. The band's fan club, forum members and Reddit each brought in technical expertise to create puzzles for the participants. Each and every week, a new puzzle would be released, often in the form of a candid photo or video from the studio where Dream Theater recorded their latest album. This would contain a piece of the puzzle - a clue to be used in the process of solving that week's mystery. The puzzles were usually based on some encryption scheme or hiding information in the files, such as hiding a zipped file with text in an image file, or hiding text within the spectrogram of an audio file. One puzzle had the fans decoding Morse Code on a light diode of recording equipment, while another had the fans decoding a touch tone number from a phone call. Fans had to solve a sonogram, sudoku puzzle, reverse engineer an encryption scheme to find a key that would decrypt a specific text. They had to solve crosswords and trivia games. Fans were eager to participate, and often worked together to collectively solve the puzzles within hours of their release.

Ultimately, there would be one person - one fan who would be the first to solve the final clue. As their prize, this fan would be the first person to possess previously unreleased Dream Theater content. The very first person outside the band to have possession of any new music, new artwork, new album title. It would be the fans who would solve the puzzle, complete the game and break the news of the release, disseminating this brand new Dream Theater news to the world from their personal online presence.

It is the hope of Dream Theater to have created a fun and engaging fan experience. A unique manner to amp up the excitement for the new release, and to involve the band's fanbase in a new and interesting way. On behalf of Dream Theater - congratulations to the winner, and thank you to everyone who participated.

Freddy Jacobi was: James LaBrie, Jordan Rudess, John Petrucci, John Myung, Mike Mangini, Maddi Schieferstein, James T. Meslin, Jake Solomon, Kim Arthur Sakariassen, Victoria Montenegro Martinez, Jessica Lausen, Sean Arnold, Freddy Palmer, Roie Avin, mods of r/dreamtheater, dreamtheaterforums.org and Dream Theater World

(https://i.imgur.com/FI4uxu5.jpg)

Snippet here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKi3aQyWqHM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKi3aQyWqHM)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 01:13:56 PM
There you are: I'm crying like a baby!

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 01:16:23 PM
That tour announcement makes me think they'll play SFAM entirely?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
The final riff is already heavier than a lot of stuff on DT 12 :P
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 01:18:08 PM
THIS is FANTASTIC :

"Freddy Jacobi was: James LaBrie, Jordan Rudess, John Petrucci, John Myung, Mike Mangini, Maddi Schieferstein, James T. Meslin, Jake Solomon, Kim Arthur Sakariassen, Victoria Montenegro Martinez, Jessica Lausen, Sean Arnold, Freddy Palmer, Roie Avin, mods of r/dreamtheater, dreamtheaterforums.org and Dream Theater World".
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on November 02, 2018, 01:18:45 PM
I wonder what the rest of the prize is..
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 02, 2018, 01:19:06 PM
 I Freaking love that album cover.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 02, 2018, 01:19:20 PM
Wow, clip sounds good.

So... SFAM on the tour?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 02, 2018, 01:19:55 PM
I Freaking love that album cover.

Ditto that's pretty cool!

Crap, just realizing no Pittsburgh date.... Might have to travel for this tour.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on November 02, 2018, 01:21:18 PM
And now we wait for the tracklist and the dates of the European Tour  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 01:22:23 PM
And now we wait for the tracklist and the dates of the European Tour  :metal :metal :metal

And the first single :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on November 02, 2018, 01:22:55 PM
Can anyone explain how the last few puzzles led back to the SFAM puzzle page?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on November 02, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
And now we wait for the tracklist and the dates of the European Tour  :metal :metal :metal

And the first single :metal

And the actual release date.  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 02, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
Crap, just realizing no Pittsburgh date.... Might have to travel for this tour.

Not surprised there's no St. Louis stop....but they usually hit Kansas City which isn't on the list. So it looks like I'll be in Chicago on Friday March 29th.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 01:27:32 PM
I Freaking love that album cover.

Me too! It's fantastic!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 01:28:18 PM
And now we wait for the tracklist and the dates of the European Tour  :metal :metal :metal

I suppose the tracklist is coming with the big official announcement, maybe. That should be pretty soon I suppose.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Indiscipline on November 02, 2018, 01:30:37 PM
"Alas, poor Arhys"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 02, 2018, 01:33:05 PM
Can anyone explain how the last few puzzles led back to the SFAM puzzle page?

If you called the digits of the distance over time math puzzles (get it), you'd hear a phone message saying "close your eyes and begin to relax"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 01:36:40 PM
I'm willing to bet "Distance Over Time" is the song with Mangini's lyrics.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 01:39:08 PM
I'm willing to bet "Distance Over Time" is the song with Mangini's lyrics.

His first song lyricwise becoming the album title? That would actually be really cool!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: geeeemo on November 02, 2018, 01:44:24 PM
Omgosh!! so Excited!! Picking my dates...wonder if it coincides with the Dream I had last night with JP in it.... :-\
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 02, 2018, 01:44:44 PM
I'm excited right now. Snippet was heavy and JLBs vocals sounded great. Can't wait for the first song release. I'll likely also hit up either the Denver or Dallas date.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2018, 01:46:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FI4uxu5.jpg)

Venues? Probably the usual ones?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 02, 2018, 01:52:49 PM
Well that sounded amazing
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: geeeemo on November 02, 2018, 01:53:58 PM
Think a road trip is in order.  LA on Fri and then SFO on Sunday!! :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on November 02, 2018, 01:54:27 PM
That tour announcement makes me think they'll play SFAM entirely?
;)  It is going to be especially special.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on November 02, 2018, 01:54:58 PM
!!!! so is the new record like SFAM pt II or something???
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 01:55:21 PM
!!!! so is the new record like SFAM pt II or something???

That's Nicholas' skull on the cover
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2018, 01:55:35 PM
Are they really going to play SFAM in its entirety? I hope not.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 02, 2018, 01:57:05 PM
Whoo-hoo -- back-to-back Los Angeles dates!

Celebrating SFAM?  Didn't we sort of do this 2014?  :\
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Mladen on November 02, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Looks good.  :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on November 02, 2018, 01:59:10 PM
Whoo-hoo -- back-to-back Los Angeles dates!

Celebrating SFAM?  Didn't we sort of do this 2014?  :\

That was celebrating Awake mostly, with the encore honoring SFAM's 15th anniversary.

This is the 20th anniversary, so it'll most likely be more than the 4 songs.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on November 02, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
!!!! so is the new record like SFAM pt II or something???

That's Nicholas' skull on the cover

Hamlet's reference... Pull Me Under Pt. II - SFAM PT3 - Tetradecavarium confirmed


Btw, they have so much potential... So much fresh stuff to present... It will be the third tour in the last  four tours that an older album is revisited. DT is bigger than this, IMO. They played a considerable part of SFAM during DT12 tour. Hope they bring it with different elements that enrich the experience, more than just 'playing the entire album'.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 02:04:07 PM
I wonder when are they going to share the news on their official social media accounts. I've been sharing the news but people think it's fake :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Samsara on November 02, 2018, 02:05:38 PM
Cool little teaser. Looking forward to the record and tour.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Dave_Manchester on November 02, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/LFjwIZJ.jpg)

Alas, poor Yoda! I knew him, Horatio.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 02:08:46 PM
I wonder when are they going to share the news on their official social media accounts. I've been sharing the news but people think it's fake :lol

Dude, stop sharing JLB's new solo album as DT stuff!  :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on November 02, 2018, 02:10:21 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on November 02, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
I wonder when are they going to share the news on their official social media accounts. I've been sharing the news but people think it's fake :lol

Dude, stop sharing JLB's new solo album as DT stuff!  :rollin

 :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 02, 2018, 02:12:38 PM
Part of the fun of the game is letting the fans share it virally. That's why it's not on DTs sites yet.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 02:17:54 PM
Part of the fun of the game is letting the fans share it virally. That's why it's not on DTs sites yet.

And I love this.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on November 02, 2018, 02:18:32 PM
Can we already go back to the barbecue thread or create a net DOT thread?  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 02:18:50 PM
Part of the fun of the game is letting the fans share it virally. That's why it's not on DTs sites yet.

I get it, but people see this https://37311319.com/final.php?share=true and think it's just a spam link :lol

I sent it to a friend and he said "dude, that link looks weird, what is it?", and he's my friend, imagine some random people on FB groups looking at my post and thinking it's just fan art with a spam link :P
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 02:19:19 PM
Btw, there's a number on the skull, 137. Wonder what it means.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on November 02, 2018, 02:21:32 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/FI4uxu5.jpg)

I wonder if the artist who created this is the same one from TA. Looks pretty similar. And very good, btw.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 02:27:54 PM
Can we already go back to the barbecue thread or create a net DOT thread?  :metal

Yeah! It would also be good to create a separate thread for the NA tour, because it's kiiiiiind of annoying for the other regions when all you read on the new album thread is about the tour.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Renzo on November 02, 2018, 02:31:27 PM
And now we wait for the tracklist and the dates of the European Tour  :metal :metal :metal

I suppose the tracklist is coming with the big official announcement, maybe. That should be pretty soon I suppose.

Hype is still high  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ninjabait on November 02, 2018, 02:53:25 PM
Btw, there's a number on the skull, 137. Wonder what it means.

B.Lee

Plot twist: the treasure hunt's actually not over. Now it's just Phase II
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 03:08:23 PM
Btw, there's a number on the skull, 137. Wonder what it means.

B.Lee

Plot twist: the treasure hunt's actually not over. Now it's just Phase II

Oh, nose!  :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 03:08:36 PM
Wait, there’s even more: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253DO5rxmfa8OPA%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNHAas_n8Ej1mu-yHrjNX-FhT36cgw
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 03:09:50 PM
Wait, there’s even more: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253DO5rxmfa8OPA%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNHAas_n8Ej1mu-yHrjNX-FhT36cgw

This sounds killer too!  :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SeRoX on November 02, 2018, 03:16:11 PM
"Don't be afraid of letting go, open your heart, be set free..."

Sounds kind of Outcry but a bit heavier.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on November 02, 2018, 03:17:28 PM
This links says "#2": https://youtu.be/cmGcEfk85vA

What could be the #1? Anyone who solved the final puzzle could tell us what it is?


Wait, there’s even more: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253DO5rxmfa8OPA%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNHAas_n8Ej1mu-yHrjNX-FhT36cgw
Interesting. Now we know we have at least 10 songs 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 03:18:57 PM
I loved both snippets, but I am actually liking song #10 way more!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
This links says "#2": https://youtu.be/cmGcEfk85vA

What could be the #1? Anyone who solved the final puzzle could tell us what it is?


Wait, there’s even more: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253DO5rxmfa8OPA%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNHAas_n8Ej1mu-yHrjNX-FhT36cgw
Interesting. Now we know we have at least 10 songs 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

#1 https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253Dv-Sc6Xh0QOg%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNFna91pKWt1ISImNWnjx5gnY87LWg

I didn’t solve it, btw, it’s all on the Google Doc :biggrin:
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on November 02, 2018, 03:21:52 PM
Can we already go back to the barbecue thread or create a net DOT thread?  :metal

Yeah! It would also be good to create a separate thread for the NA tour, because it's kiiiiiind of annoying for the other regions when all you read on the new album thread is about the tour.
You jelly?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 02, 2018, 03:22:30 PM
Wait, there’s even more: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253DO5rxmfa8OPA%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNHAas_n8Ej1mu-yHrjNX-FhT36cgw

This sounds killer too!  :metal

Sounds cool too. Not what I expected yet. Love the bass and drums et the beginning.

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 02, 2018, 03:22:38 PM
This links says "#2": https://youtu.be/cmGcEfk85vA

What could be the #1? Anyone who solved the final puzzle could tell us what it is?


Wait, there’s even more: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253DO5rxmfa8OPA%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNHAas_n8Ej1mu-yHrjNX-FhT36cgw
Interesting. Now we know we have at least 10 songs 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

#1 https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253Dv-Sc6Xh0QOg%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNFna91pKWt1ISImNWnjx5gnY87LWg

I didn’t solve it, btw, it’s all on the Google Doc :biggrin:

Lol, JLB's laughter just proves he's the goofball we all love xD
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on November 02, 2018, 03:28:19 PM
Can anyone explain how the last few puzzles led back to the SFAM puzzle page?

If you called the digits of the distance over time math puzzles (get it), you'd hear a phone message saying "close your eyes and begin to relax"

So as I thought it's a phone number 😁
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: pg1067 on November 02, 2018, 04:03:02 PM
Wait, there’s even more: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v%253DO5rxmfa8OPA%26amp;sa%3DD%26amp;ust%3D1541196340142000&sa=D&ust=1541196340253000&usg=AFQjCNHAas_n8Ej1mu-yHrjNX-FhT36cgw

This sounds killer too!  :metal

That bass at the start is TASTY!!!  And the section that started at the end sounded great too.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on November 02, 2018, 04:08:13 PM
It's so cool that they did this. They must have decided to just embrace the fans pulling out the CSI filters and such and just thought, "what the fuck". 😉
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on November 02, 2018, 04:10:00 PM
Can anyone explain how the last few puzzles led back to the SFAM puzzle page?

If you called the digits of the distance over time math puzzles (get it), you'd hear a phone message saying "close your eyes and begin to relax"

So as I thought it's a phone number 😁
Is the number like this?  585-310-2?90 Not sure about one of the digits.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on November 02, 2018, 04:12:42 PM
Not sure what happened here... Ignore.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 02, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 04:39:34 PM
The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.

 :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on November 02, 2018, 04:40:47 PM
The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.

 :hefdaddy
YES!  Really great job noxon!  :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on November 02, 2018, 04:43:19 PM
The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.
You're a fuckin legend.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TH1RT3EN on November 02, 2018, 04:45:29 PM
The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.

I feel betrayed, but at least we can pinpoint the exact moment of betrayal.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: dream75 on November 02, 2018, 04:54:04 PM
The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.

You are always the number one  :metal :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ReaperKK on November 02, 2018, 05:07:04 PM
I'm going to the charlotte show, nice to see them come around here. I wonder when tickets will go on sale.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TheLordOfTheStrings on November 02, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
I'm really interested to hear about JP's reaction to the idea. Was he immediately on board and excited about it? Or did it take any convincing??
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 05:31:02 PM
Now I want to know what's the story behind "Vail Renovations"
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 02, 2018, 05:52:04 PM
It wasn't much work to convince them at all.

The part about the Vail Renovations was originally thought to have it be a "stalker" who'd worked at the studio DT was at, sneaking about around the studio when they were making the record, changing some text here, hiding some code there. He would have the key as he was still working on stuff there...

But then you guys figured out where the studio actually was, and we quickly figured out it would be dumb to do that story as then we'd maybe get copycats :P Can you imagine if some fan came running up to the studio? But the game was already designed at that point, so we didn't want to rework a lot of stuff.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on November 02, 2018, 05:55:09 PM
Yup.  I can now confirm that Noxon is Freddy.  But I get credit for finding and coming up with his avatar.  :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 02, 2018, 06:01:42 PM
Well, to be fair, a lot of people were Freddy - not just me. There was a whole team acting as Freddy in different settings. I was but one of them ;)

I did create most of the puzzles though, with great help from Maddi coming up with the clues from the studio.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on November 02, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
Well, okay, but you were Freddy Prime.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: TH1RT3EN on November 02, 2018, 06:09:16 PM
THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on November 02, 2018, 06:09:34 PM
And you loved it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 06:17:14 PM
It wasn't much work to convince them at all.

The part about the Vail Renovations was originally thought to have it be a "stalker" who'd worked at the studio DT was at, sneaking about around the studio when they were making the record, changing some text here, hiding some code there. He would have the key as he was still working on stuff there...

But then you guys figured out where the studio actually was, and we quickly figured out it would be dumb to do that story as then we'd maybe get copycats :P Can you imagine if some fan came running up to the studio? But the game was already designed at that point, so we didn't want to rework a lot of stuff.

You did a lot of work for this :hefdaddy

About the bolded part, people here also found out the "secret" studio location for SOA recording sessions and the whole lineup before Mike wanted to reveal it and triggered him to  the point he started banning/blocking people like crazy, what did you expect? :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Weymolith on November 02, 2018, 06:42:31 PM
And you loved it.

"In case you haven't caught on, Noxon just slipped his dick down your throat and you thanked him for it."
(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/11/14/04/the-walking-dead-3-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 02, 2018, 06:45:14 PM
Great job, Noxon!  I am very impressed with the level of mystery and challenge you (and the team) imbued into each puzzle.  It was a fun ride.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: goo-goo on November 02, 2018, 07:05:43 PM
So whats the code that needs to be entered along with your info for the raffle?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 02, 2018, 07:15:38 PM
If you don't know, then you don't have a special code ;) enter blank
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 02, 2018, 07:42:42 PM
This was fun...hope to see more videos. and hopefully, a single within the month.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 02, 2018, 09:18:00 PM
This was fun...hope to see more videos. and hopefully, a single within the month.

I think we’ll get the single in 1-2 weeks.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on November 03, 2018, 12:09:03 AM

But then you guys figured out where the studio actually was,

Oops, I'm really very sorry about the trouble that caused, I was just hyped about them being back in the studio and people were wondering if it was bear tracks studios and a quick Google search brought up that studio. Great job on this whole treasure hunt!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on November 03, 2018, 01:53:11 AM
This whole puzzle was awesome Noxon! Much respect :hefdaddy

We need a new freddy emoji for :noxon: !! Bosk?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Polarbear on November 03, 2018, 02:16:22 AM
Hats off to Noxon, and everybody who was involved in this little scheme! :tup

This was a great way to engage the fans, and it was a great thing to follow, even if someone like me is way too dumb for any of this stuff. :lol
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: PepeLePew on November 03, 2018, 03:20:55 AM
Thanks to everyone involved in the Treasure Hunt - both creating it and also solving it. I haven't even tried to help solving, but following it along has been a lot of fun and got me even more excited for the new album!

Thanks again!!!  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 03, 2018, 03:51:54 AM
The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.

I bow down to you, godly Noxon, for having such a FANTASTIC idea! :hefdaddy :metal

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Jinx on November 03, 2018, 04:17:27 AM
Its Metropolis Pt3 isnt it? The lyrics, the fact it seems like the songs could be interwoven with those from SFAM... Maybe (and judging by the cover) the main character has had its brain uploaded to an android?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on November 03, 2018, 05:06:37 AM
Its Metropolis Pt3 isnt it? The lyrics, the fact it seems like the songs could be interwoven with those from SFAM... Maybe (and judging by the cover) the main character has had its brain uploaded to an android?

Cyberpunk 1928?  :justjen
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 03, 2018, 05:17:09 AM
Is the number like this?  585-310-2?90 Not sure about one of the digits.
Yes. That '?' digit is 3. It's the answer to this question:
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055831256359976960
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055831414749519873
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 03, 2018, 05:18:08 AM
Yup.  I can now confirm that Noxon is Freddy.  But I get credit for finding and coming up with his avatar.  :D
That's a cool avatar! Too bad it was only used here.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 03, 2018, 05:21:06 AM
Btw, there's a number on the skull, 137. Wonder what it means.

B.Lee
The same number can be seen in the notepad in the 15th puzzle piece. (James' hand obscured it in the 'Hidden by Design' picture, so we only got to see it a few weeks ago.)

In the notepad, the '137' is over-lined, which 'el_deadache' on Discord realised looks very similar to a scene in "The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace", an episode of The Simpsons. (You know: the one where Homer fancies himself as an inventor a la Edison.)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 03, 2018, 05:21:56 AM
I wonder if the artist who created this is the same one from TA. Looks pretty similar. And very good, btw.
One of the passwords yesterday was Syme2018. So, not sure about that.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on November 03, 2018, 05:49:52 AM
So, lately I wasn't doing that much.... for ONE evening I go out, and THIS happens? Wow. Social life SUCKS.

The treasure hunt was my idea, which I proposed to JP in march at the G3 tour. I worked closely with all the people you see in the credits for the treasure hunt to make it all work.

You're a genius sir!!! :hefdaddy

Well, to be fair, a lot of people were Freddy - not just me. There was a whole team acting as Freddy in different settings. I was but one of them ;)

I did create most of the puzzles though, with great help from Maddi coming up with the clues from the studio.

So.... there wasn't a dude from the label? you and other people took turns in posting with Freddy's account? WOW. Mind blown just when I figured out SFAM's twist.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 03, 2018, 06:01:39 AM
The Spotify based puzzle was people from the Label. So they were involved.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Bertielee on November 03, 2018, 07:00:06 AM
Btw, there's a number on the skull, 137. Wonder what it means.

B.Lee
The same number can be seen in the notepad in the 15th puzzle piece. (James' hand obscured it in the 'Hidden by Design' picture, so we only got to see it a few weeks ago.)

In the notepad, the '137' is over-lined, which 'el_deadache' on Discord realised looks very similar to a scene in "The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace", an episode of The Simpsons. (You know: the one where Homer fancies himself as an inventor a la Edison.)

Oohh, thanks Sebastian! Again! :metal

B.Lee
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: rab7 on November 03, 2018, 07:59:27 AM
Is the number like this?  585-310-2?90 Not sure about one of the digits.
Yes. That '?' digit is 3. It's the answer to this question:
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055831256359976960
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055831414749519873

Interesting, I thought the answer was 320 minutes, so we were supposed to just ignore the 20?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Another_Won on November 03, 2018, 08:53:40 AM
Is the number like this?  585-310-2?90 Not sure about one of the digits.
Yes. That '?' digit is 3. It's the answer to this question:
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055831256359976960
https://twitter.com/FreddyJacobi/status/1055831414749519873

Interesting, I thought the answer was 320 minutes, so we were supposed to just ignore the 20?

So that is the number we call with the recording?  That says, close your eyes and relax . . .
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Mladen on November 03, 2018, 09:37:21 AM
Kudos for Noxon for all the work that he put into it. Amazing job, man. This is exactly what the guys in the band mean when they say Dream Theater fans are incredible.  :tup
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on November 03, 2018, 09:37:43 AM
That's awesome. Thanks to those who helped put together this hunt and increase the hype up to 11... I have to wonder, maybe I missed it: what happened with the letters that were hidden in the picture fragments? What purpose did they end up serving?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: noxon on November 03, 2018, 09:44:31 AM
They were rearranged and some were shifted to reveal the album title. 8 letters were there, 5 needed to change  2 or 3 places, with two being shifted much more.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Madman Shepherd on November 03, 2018, 10:37:26 AM
I think I said this before, but I'm not really into puzzle solving and all that but I did enjoy observing this from afar. 

Cool and unique way to build hype. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 03, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
Oohh, thanks Sebastian! Again! :metal

B.Lee
No problemo, amigo! :P

Interesting, I thought the answer was 320 minutes, so we were supposed to just ignore the 20?
In the end, the correct answer was the relation between the time spent walking vs. the time spent on train. (Which is 3, because that's the inverse of the rate between the speeds.) So, the 'back in 8 hours' detail was irrelevant. (Hence, why Freddy didn't like the '320 minutes' replies to their tweet.)

So that is the number we call with the recording?  That says, close your eyes and relax . . .
Yes sir!
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: robwebster on November 03, 2018, 11:59:40 AM
Must say, Noxon was so openly engaging with the treasure hunters and present/helpful in the comments that it never occurred to me that he could've been Freddy Jacobi! Talk about hiding in plain sight, right?
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: MirrorMask on November 03, 2018, 12:48:03 PM
Must say, Noxon was so openly engaging with the treasure hunters and present/helpful in the comments that it never occurred to me that he could've been Freddy Jacobi! Talk about hiding in plain sight, right?

Makes me want to quickly re-read this thread and spot the signs :P
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Nathan Explosion on November 03, 2018, 04:23:49 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1973/30763210617_c8789a3a37_c.jpg)

Haha, definitely hiding in plain sight.

Good thing you didn't accidentally mix up the accounts and post from the wrong account.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: SuperTaco on November 03, 2018, 04:29:00 PM
The sound production has taken a big step forward in power, and Petrucci has evolved his guitar tone to another level entirely. So incredibly fresh and modern sounding, like a natural step forward from DT12.

It really kicks your ass.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 03, 2018, 06:07:24 PM
Haha, definitely hiding in plain sight.

Good thing you didn't accidentally mix up the accounts and post from the wrong account.
Yours is the coolest username, by the way! I discovered Metalocalypse last year and fell in love. ;D
(I think the first episode I watched was that one where Murderface fancies himself a composer, so Nathan and Skwisgaar make fun of him; such a cool scene!)
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: bosk1 on November 05, 2018, 09:46:21 AM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1973/30763210617_c8789a3a37_c.jpg)

Haha, definitely hiding in plain sight.

Good thing you didn't accidentally mix up the accounts and post from the wrong account.

Oh, but he actually did once or twice.  :lol  Luckily, we caught it before anyone else did. 
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: cramx3 on November 05, 2018, 09:57:21 AM
 :lol

well done to everyone involved
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: raggashaggas on November 05, 2018, 05:56:03 PM
The new DT album cover bears a skull with a number engraved on it toward the back.. 137. Another user pointed this out. Coincidentally, I opened my "Firefox" tab which recommends me different articles and such, and this was one of them:

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/why-the-number-137-is-one-of-the-greatest-mysteries-in-physics

WHAT DOES IT MEAN????
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 05, 2018, 08:36:45 PM
Interesting article - I wonder if this has any correlation to studies concerning the Golden Mean / Square Root of 5.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 05, 2018, 09:27:52 PM
That sounds like something Mangini would be interested in. Maybe his lyrics are the centerpiece to the entire album. Which is why when they were interviewed, he really wanted to say but couldn't.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 05, 2018, 09:47:40 PM
That sounds like something Mangini would be interested in. Maybe his lyrics are the centerpiece to the entire album. Which is why when they were interviewed, he really wanted to say but couldn't.

I have a strong feeling about this too. On that video, he WANTED to say something, but Petrucci didn't want him to reveal any official titles yet.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: YtseJamittaja on November 06, 2018, 12:37:52 AM
That sounds like something Mangini would be interested in. Maybe his lyrics are the centerpiece to the entire album. Which is why when they were interviewed, he really wanted to say but couldn't.

I have a strong feeling about this too. On that video, he WANTED to say something, but Petrucci didn't want him to reveal any official titles yet.

What video are you talking about?


And yeah, noxon linked that same article in 137 thread but no one responded to it.
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: lucasembarbosa on November 06, 2018, 03:32:22 AM

What video are you talking about?


The Facebook live they did a few months ago...

https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheater/videos/10155382393742181/
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: gzarruk on November 06, 2018, 06:49:17 AM

What video are you talking about?


The Facebook live they did a few months ago...

https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheater/videos/10155382393742181/

Yep, that one. They even answered one of my questions :metal
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 10, 2018, 12:00:36 PM
Now I want to know what's the story behind "Vail Renovations"
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501783089438130176/510877682490408994/Screenshot_2018-11-10_Messenger.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501783089438130176/510877720884805632/Screenshot_2018-11-10_Messenger1.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501783089438130176/510877764455235584/Screenshot_2018-11-10_Messenger2.png)

tl;dr (and, for those who don't read Spanish):

I asked Victoria from Dream Theater USA, who is one of the people behind the 'Freddy Jacobi' moniker, whether the Vail Renovations' area of service indeed was a Simpsons reference; she replied that, although her being a big Simpsons fan, it was a complete coincidence: they simply wanted the area of service and the phone numbers to correspond to Upstate NY, so that Freddy being a contractor and his friend hanging around the band's studio was believable.

And, the company's site was mainly designed by her and noxon.

Plus, she praised my 'treasure hunt' recap. :)

Finally, she told me what some of her favourite Simpsons episodes are. (The one where Bart thinks Flanders killed his wife, and the one where Homer is tempted to kiss his co-worker on a business trip.)

(By the way, this is all shared with Victoria's permission. Thanks, Victoria! :))
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: RMGadelha on November 10, 2018, 12:56:14 PM
First time that knowing Portuguese actually helped me on this forum, though I did learn Spanish in school :D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on November 11, 2018, 07:59:55 AM
First time that knowing Portuguese actually helped me on this forum, though I did learn Spanish in school :D
:D
Title: Re: Treasure Hunt
Post by: ToT-147 on November 12, 2018, 10:18:11 AM
First time that knowing Portuguese actually helped me on this forum, though I did learn Spanish in school :D

https://youtu.be/d3xqEbsrsH0?t=802

 :lol