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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: The Walrus on June 22, 2018, 09:57:22 PM
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Wow.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8462386/vinnie-paul-dead-pantera-damageplan-hellyeah
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That's crazy...
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This is fucking insane.
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Shocked by this. Just sucks.
Listening to Cemetery Gates as I type this.
He's with Dime now. Look out afterlife.
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Shocked by this. Just sucks.
Listening to Cemetery Gates as I type this.
He's with Dime now. Look out afterlife.
Sorry to hear of his passing. I can't call myself a huge Pantera fan but select songs , such as Cemetary Gates, are all time faves.
A good guy and a huge Van Halen fan (often wore his VH neck chain).........a man after my own heart ;D
RIP Vinnie.
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Oh shit. What a shock when I came in and read this thred title. Big Pantera fan. Solid no bulkshit drummer. I wonder how this happened.
RIP Vinnie, you and Dimebag are together again. :'(
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An unexpected shock. Died too young, as with Dimebag. RIP. :(
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:sad:
R.I.P. Vinnie.
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That is shocking and sad. LOVED Pantera back in the day and have recently been revisiting all their work. Unreal.....entirely too young.
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Sad news, much too soon.
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Not a big fan of Pantera, but he seemed like great guy!
54 is way too early to go, R.I.P
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This one really hurts. Pantera is one of my all time favorite bands. If there is an afterlife, hopefully he’s jamming with his brother.
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Damn it, not Vinnie! He was such a great spirit and drummer!
Now he's up there jamming with his brother atleast! :metal
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Time for....
Domination...
https://youtu.be/lYPFrXvc2rE
Edit:....Still can't believe it though.
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RIP Vinnie. :-[
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Damn. I saw Pantera 9 times in the 1990's and they were definitely one of the most intense live bands I've ever seen--with a large part of that being Vinnie's killer drums. Two decades later, and two of the four members are no longer with us and any hope for even a partial reunion is pretty much gone forever.
RIP to Vinnie.
Addition: This was a tough week for 90's stars, as we also lost Leon "Vader" White, a major star from the pro wrestling industry. RIP to Vader.
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Really sad news to hear. RIP Vinnie
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RIP Vinnie :(
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Fuck! Used to be a big Pantera fan. 54 is such a young age. RIP, Vinnie. If there is such a thing as Heaven and Dime is there, say hello for me.
B.Lee
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Big bummer. Totally unexpected. I'm curious as to the cause of death. Not that it really matters. We all die. Some sooner, some later. Death is the elephant in the room. None of us will escape it.
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RIP very sad at least he's with his brother now in the afterlife if it exists :)
For like a week after hearing Reinventing for the first time I kept hearing Yesterday Don't Mean Shit just because of his drumming, he was pretty awesome at that :(
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Blabbermouth shared my video of Bret Michaels dedicating the Poison concert to Vinnie last night, those guys were close :( https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/poison-dedicates-holmdel-concert-to-vinnie-paul-video/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/poison-dedicates-holmdel-concert-to-vinnie-paul-video/)
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Not a big fan of Pantera, but he seemed like great guy!
54 is way too early to go, R.I.P
This is me; not a fan of Pantera, but he seemed pretty cool, and 54 is just too young (says the 50 year old guy).
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:'( What makes it extra sad is just like with his brother, so many people across the music world, particularly the rock/metal scene always seemed to love both Dime and Vinnie. Like these two appear to have been genuinely excellent guys as well as killer musicians. RIP Vinnie
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There was a Posion concern LAST NIGHT?!?! As in last night in the year 2018?
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This just sucks. I loved Pantera and saw them three times before they disbanded - an indoor show at the Aragon Ballrom in 1997 (I was 17) remains one of my favorite concerts of all time. Taking their energy and capturing it indoors in a ballroom was just unreal. Vinnie and Dime just seemed like two cool, down to earth guys, and it's really sad to think that they're together again now.
I'll be binging on Pantera all week. :metal :'( :metal :'(
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np: VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER
RIP Vin. Never had the opportunity to see him or his brother play live, and I regret that. Feel horrible for his father. To bury two sons...man. Peace to his family.
Time to go crank the ever-lovin' shit out of Pantera.
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Lot's of mentions of dad; I thought they lost touch after Pantera hit it big?
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Lot's of mentions of dad; I thought they lost touch after Pantera hit it big?
Not to my knowledge. That reminded me of an interesting Vinnie Paul story - interesting to me at least.
I work as a commercial insurance agent. At my prior agency, around 2008-2009, one of the brokers/salesmen received a lead in writing an Author's E&O policy - liability coverage for an author that may make a claim in a book and be sued because of it. The client was the Estate of Darrel Lance Abbott (Dimebag Darrell).
Vinnie and his dad put together a picture book about Dime and their lawyer recommended this specific type of insurance policy. So we receive the insurance applications, signed by Vinnie himself and a copy of the book to forward to underwriters. We wrote the policy and being a fan, I asked for the copy of the book back from the underwriter. I printed off the applications to keep with the book (which I had forgotten about and recently found while organizing my basement.
It was one way that my career in insurance collided with my hobby as a metalhead (another was issuing proof of insurance naming the members of Bon Jovi as insureds on my client's policy - the client created some software that Bon Jovi was going to use on tour in conjunction with their live show). :)
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Lot's of mentions of dad; I thought they lost touch after Pantera hit it big?
Not to my knowledge. That reminded me of an interesting Vinnie Paul story - interesting to me at least.
I work as a commercial insurance agent. At my prior agency, around 2008-2009, one of the brokers/salesmen received a lead in writing an Author's E&O policy - liability coverage for an author that may make a claim in a book and be sued because of it. The client was the Estate of Darrel Lance Abbott (Dimebag Darrell).
Vinnie and his dad put together a picture book about Dime and their lawyer recommended this specific type of insurance policy. So we receive the insurance applications, signed by Vinnie himself and a copy of the book to forward to underwriters. We wrote the policy and being a fan, I asked for the copy of the book back from the underwriter. I printed off the applications to keep with the book (which I had forgotten about and recently found while organizing my basement.
It was one way that my career in insurance collided with my hobby as a metalhead (another was issuing proof of insurance naming the members of Bon Jovi as insureds on my client's policy - the client created some software that Bon Jovi was going to use on tour in conjunction with their live show). :)
You had told me about that, and I completely forgot. Wow, that is cool.
Regarding the Abbott brothers and their Dad, I remember hearing that they parted with their dad musically when they hit it big, but I don't think that was anything personal. Even if it was, it is just so sad that their Dad had to bury them. No parent should have to bury their children. :'(
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Cool tribute to Vinnie from his band Hellyeah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQ7wQ2fIFI
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Sad. Pantera were perfect for two albums. Very good for one. And bemusingly underachieving for the rest.
I wonder what happened to him. And why he was always so tight lipped re Phil after Dime's death. I guess we'll never know now.
Off topic. Dime was a great player but there's a huge amount of sentimentality about him in a way I'm not comfortable with. Jeff Hanneman leaves more of a gap for me.
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Sad. Pantera were perfect for two albums. Very good for one. And bemusingly underachieving for the rest.
I wonder what happened to him. And why he was always so tight lipped re Phil after Dime's death. I guess we'll never know now.
Off topic. Dime was a great player but there's a huge amount of sentimentality about him in a way I'm not comfortable with. Jeff Hanneman leaves more of a gap for me.
Apparently, he died from a massive heart attack.
He took Phil responsible for Dime's death because of his declarations after the band split.
B.Lee
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Thanks for the info.
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Thanks for the info.
My pleasure!
B.Lee
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So is it just me, or does this make no sense at all? I gather some of those periods are supposed to be commas, but it's still pretty strange.
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I don't agree with it. But the statement is about being in the moment. Thinking about whether or not it's a "good time" to do something is making up your mind that it won't be before it happens.
The third and forth statements are just a observation of...."the time will be good if it's good, and bad if it's bad." It's a "just do it" and find out how it works out later.
I've done enough of this through personal experience to discover that this creates more problems than it solves, and is an ultimately selfish way to live life. But to each their own.
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I don't agree with it. But the statement is about being in the moment. Thinking about whether or not it's a "good time" to do something is making up your mind that it won't be before it happens.
The third and forth statements are just a observation of...."the time will be good if it's good, and bad if it's bad." It's a "just do it" and find out how it works out later.
I've done enough of this through personal experience to discover that this creates more problems than it solves, and is an ultimately selfish way to live life. But to each their own.
Ah, so it's two different sayings. One of which is very poorly written, and the other has a very different meaning but shares enough words and theme to make the whole thing a confusing mess. Seriously, I have some experience in printing the gibberish of others, and if a customer submits that, for a tombstone no less, I'm sending it back for revisions.
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DICK ALERT, DICK ALERT: I'll cop to this, but I'm also not really going to apologize, becuase I'm not busting on Vinnie (or, as you'll see, a sick kid), but would it be the end of the world to have someone proof your statement which is, LITERALLY, set in stone?
There's a restaurant near me that is basically just a diner but it's set in a train car, so it's cool. As you enter, there's a handwritten poster with some pictures of this boy that has.... I'm going to say leukemia. And it's basically a thank you of sorts to the restaurant (for helping to raise some cash) as well as a continued plea for same. I was up there a week or so ago, and I'm reading it, and while the intent is clear, and I'm all for that (and not that it's relevant or anyone's bizniss, but I made that clear with a donation) I had to read it like three times and I was just shaking my head the entire time. It was stream of consciousness, written-like-you-speak, and chock full of the sort of buzzwords and lingo you'd see all over Facebook. And it was clear that even if they didn't get someone to proof it (which they clearly didn't) I'd match the can if the person that wrote it even read through it once themselves after writing it.
And why do I view this as relevant? Because it's supposed to be honoring the dead/sick/victim. Show some respect. Put some effort in. I suppose there's the argument that it's "from the gut", but there are plenty of very eloquent, very well-written homages, honors or tributes that still hold emotional resonance.
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There's not a tombstone company in the world that's going to create something without sending their artwork off to the customer to sign off on it. Whoever signed off on it just didn't recognize the problems. The moral needs to be to have a second person proof it. Ideally the engravers are that second person and should have pointed out some suggestions. I have no idea if that happened or not, but it probably didn't. At my company the people who deal with customers are reticent to contact them about this sort of thing to make suggestions. I'll insist on fixing spelling mistakes, but it's generally not worth the fight to try and get punctuation or grammatical changes done. I would have done something here to try and make it a little more sensible, but it still wouldn't have been great.
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It took me a few times to read through that but I think I finally get what it's trying to say
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Dimebag had his own lingo, so to speak. I heard him call it "Dimebonics" on a video. It consisted of words/phrases he would use that were unique to him that meant certain things but people would understand what he was saying. Things like "getcha pull" and such.
I don't think this would be a Vinnie quote because he didn't talk that way. Vinnie always seemed to make sense and his words were thought out before he spoke. It looks like a bad attempt at "Dimebonics" or something like that.
I wonder who signed off on it.