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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: El Barto on June 07, 2018, 01:15:27 PM
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As for me, I wouldn't consider Tina Turner "rock," but I would pick her over Benetar as the second choice. The first choice is obvious to all.
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Ann Wilson
Pat Benetar
everyone else.
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Wilson and Benatar (I only voted for Wilson since the poll wasn't set up properly).
I'm also quite fond of Amy Lee, although not a fan of Evanescence's post-Open Door releases.
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Best of that list would probably be Ann. Favorite would be Stevie. I would list others not on the list, but I'm not sure where you are drawing the rather arbitrary line between rock and metal (not to mention that I find it thoroughly confusing that you are trying to rigidly adhere to the "rock" genre, but then listed Tina Turner), so I'll just stick with what is there.
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Just women in rock, metal is excluded.
Who, in your opinion? Pick two.
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Just women in rock, metal is excluded.
Who, in your opinion? Pick two.
I’d think Barto should be the one to determine. His poll, his rules.
If these rules stand, then I have to change the vote. Started as Ann Wilson and other (Floor Jansen easily my favorite female vocalist), but since After Forever and Nightwish are likely considered more metal, I’ll change it if it’s rock only.
Ann Wilson and Pat Benatar if it’s only rock.
EDIT — wait... the original post says edited by Bosk. I’m so confused... haha. DTF is going all Bryan Colangelo on us...
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Ann Wilson is a hands down no 1,as I'm sure a lot of us will agree. I'll leave choosing a second for a bit.
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I love Wilson and Benatar.
Sarah Mclachlan is up there for me.
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From this list it was pretty easy.
Pat Benatar and Ann Wilson. Unlike Wolfking I do like a female singer.
Other notables
Sandi Saraya
Beth Hart her stuff with Joe Bonamassa is awesome, especially live
Robin Beck
Theresa Straley
Joanna Dean
Sarah Teets
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Wait.... where did my post go? I said only Tina Turner, and possibly Benatar from that list. Oops forgot Ann too. I wouldn't consider anyone else an elite vocalist, though acknowledge they all have their place in rock history.
Sarah Teets
If this gal is indeed a singer she is in the wrong business.
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Sarah Teets
If this gal is indeed a singer she is in the wrong business.
Dude, beat me to the punch. That poor girl is in need of a stage name, STAT.
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Sarah Teets
If this gal is indeed a singer she is in the wrong business.
Dude, beat me to the punch. That poor girl is in need of a stage name, STAT.
Sarah Reverse Cowgirl?
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Ann, duh.
Second is either Johnette Napolitano or Anneke van Giersbergen.
Thank you to the OP for including Joan Jett and Shirley Manson on there, though. Both excellent and amazing at what they do, just not at Ann's level.
I am also gleefully elated that there are no votes for Janis Joplin. Can't stand her singing.
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Where is the Geddy Lee option? ;)
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I went with Ann Wilson in the listed, but I got to give a shout out to Lzzy Hale. Sure, her lyrics are sometimes juvenile at times, but she's got a powerful voice and seeing her and Halestorm live, she can belt those notes effortlessly. By far, the best modern female rock vocalist going, I feel.
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Just women in rock, metal is excluded.
Who, in your opinion? Pick two.
What the fuck is this post?
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Floor Jansen, Lzzy Hale. Not all their songs are metal, so I figured what the heck.. :biggrin:
Otherwise, Nancy Wilson and Lita Ford are my two favs on the list..
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I'm including metal anyway. Floor Jansen. All other contenders may leave the hall.
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I'm including metal anyway. Floor Jansen. All other contenders may leave the hall.
:metal :metal
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I'm including metal anyway. Floor Jansen. All other contenders may leave the hall.
:metal :metal
:metal + :metal = :2metal:
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:metal + :neverusethis: = :metardica:
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Just women in rock, metal is excluded.
Who, in your opinion? Pick two.
What the fuck is this post?
Perhaps WildRanger has made so many of these, he just assumed this was his also.
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It is WildRanger's. But he screwed it up in a manner that made Barto's post appear first.
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:rollin
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George Michael
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Where is the Geddy Lee option? ;)
God dammit I was gonna make that joke.
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It is WildRanger's. But he screwed it up in a manner that made Barto's post appear first.
It even says "Started by El Barto" in the main GMD page.
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I voted for PJ Harvey. Partly because she's great and partly because I don't know the rest of these people.
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I voted for PJ Harvey. Partly because she's great and partly because I don't know the rest of these people.
Funny how that works...I have no idea who PJ Harvey is (other than what I gleaned by quickly googling her to make sure I didn't know who she is).
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It is WildRanger's. But he screwed it up in a manner that made Barto's post appear first.
This is very confusing.
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Annie Haslam
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Hayley Williams from Paramore. Non-rock would be Victoria LeGrand from Beach House.
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Most of my faves have already been mentioned - top four if I had to pick........
Wilson
Nicks
Saraya
Jansen
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Who is PJ Harvey?
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I voted for PJ Harvey. Partly because she's great and partly because I don't know the rest of these people.
Funny how that works...I have no idea who PJ Harvey is (other than what I gleaned by quickly googling her to make sure I didn't know who she is).
Not sure how one knows PJ Harvey and not Debbie Harry, Shirley Manson or Chrissie Hynde.
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taste :P
Also I'm 23.
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taste :P
Also I'm 23.
Can I make the joke that "23" automatically means that "taste" isn't a part of this? :).
Seriously, even moreso; you've never heard of Manson's band Garbage? "Only Happy When It Rains"? "Stupid Girl"? The drummer - Butch Vig - produced Nirvana's "Nevermind". Shirley is about a year or two older than Harvey, if memory serves.
If you don't you don't, but you might want to give them a shot.
(And by the way, I'm not being critical of you; PJ Harvey is not a household name but some of those other names are, that's all).
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Ann Wilson and Lzzy Hale.
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I voted for PJ Harvey. Partly because she's great and partly because I don't know the rest of these people.
Funny how that works...I have no idea who PJ Harvey is (other than what I gleaned by quickly googling her to make sure I didn't know who she is).
Not sure how one knows PJ Harvey and not Debbie Harry, Shirley Manson or Chrissie Hynde.
I not only don't know who PJ Harvey is, but I've also never heard of Shirley Manson.
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I swear. I know I shouldn't think you're punking us Tim, but it feels like it.
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Definitely not. I have literally never heard those two names before this thread. Now perhaps they sing a popular song, but I have zero name recognition with either,
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taste :P
Also I'm 23.
Can I make the joke that "23" automatically means that "taste" isn't a part of this? :).
Seriously, even moreso; you've never heard of Manson's band Garbage? "Only Happy When It Rains"? "Stupid Girl"? The drummer - Butch Vig - produced Nirvana's "Nevermind". Shirley is about a year or two older than Harvey, if memory serves.
If you don't you don't, but you might want to give them a shot.
(And by the way, I'm not being critical of you; PJ Harvey is not a household name but some of those other names are, that's all).
I like Garbage, actually, though apparently not well enough to recognize the singer's name. :lol
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Hayley Williams from Paramore.
This would certainly be my "other" choice. I opted for Pat Benatar and Stevie Nicks from those on the list, though.
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Anneke van Giersbergen
Lee Douglas
/thread :corn
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Anneke Van Giersbergen
Floor Jansen
The rest are somewhere far beneath that I can't make them out.
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Definitely not. I have literally never heard those two names before this thread. Now perhaps they sing a popular song, but I have zero name recognition with either,
Stupid Girl.
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Definitely not. I have literally never heard those two names before this thread. Now perhaps they sing a popular song, but I have zero name recognition with either,
Stupid Girl.
Yo wut?
I've been called stupid on the forum, but never a girl.
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No, that's their big song (well, highest charting in the US, anyway).
(https://i.imgur.com/CyR5Jmj.jpg)
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Definitely not. I have literally never heard those two names before this thread. Now perhaps they sing a popular song, but I have zero name recognition with either,
it appears I should be ashamed to admit this but neither do I :lol
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Both of you are punking us. :lol
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No, that's their big song (well, highest charting in the US, anyway).
WHO's big song?Definitely not. I have literally never heard those two names before this thread. Now perhaps they sing a popular song, but I have zero name recognition with either,
it appears I should be ashamed to admit this but neither do I :lol
I'm actually proud to admit it! :lol
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Both of you are punking us. :lol
On what planet am I supposed to know who the hell this is?
(https://i.imgur.com/CyR5Jmj.jpg)
Seriously.
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Planet Earth. Their songs were on the radio everywhere. Their videos were on MTV. I look and say, how the hell couldnt you know who that is?.
Bte, I own every album but Garbage.
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Oh and since I didn't notice the 'other' option before, I'll go ahead and mention Julie Christmas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-4xELUpMs).
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I had never heard of:
Shirley Manson
Suzi Quatro
PJ Harvey
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Is Suzi Quatro related to Ochocinco? *bows* thank you
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I voted for PJ Harvey. Partly because she's great and partly because I don't know the rest of these people.
Funny how that works...I have no idea who PJ Harvey is (other than what I gleaned by quickly googling her to make sure I didn't know who she is).
Not sure how one knows PJ Harvey and not Debbie Harry, Shirley Manson or Chrissie Hynde.
I not only don't know who PJ Harvey is, but I've also never heard of Shirley Manson.
I know who Shirley Manson is but I always assumed PJ Harvey was a bloke 😁 j. Never heard the music and all I know is an album cover picture.
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Alannah Myles
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Alannah Myles
I saw her open up for Robert Plant. She was great live.
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Janis Joplin
Stevie Nicks
It was very hard to decide between Stevie and Tina Turner. Because I think Tina is the better singer of the two but I can't help LOVING Stevies voice.
My personal number one was not in the list though, but mentioned:
Annie Haslam!
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Stevie Nicks and, if she were on the list, Kate Bush (her first few albums are full of tracks which can be considered 'rock').
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Alannah Myles
I saw her open up for Robert Plant. She was great live.
When I scrolled over your comment, my brain read something like "I'm always up for Robert Plant. She was great live". For half a second I thought that this was a great joke :rollin
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Alannah Myles
I saw her open up for Robert Plant. She was great live.
I saw her three times back in the day when she was touring Europe and she was great.
And on top of that she was hot. She was pure erotic and seduction but not in a cheap way. :hefdaddy
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Alannah Myles
I saw her open up for Robert Plant. She was great live.
When I scrolled over your comment, my brain read something like "I'm always up for Robert Plant. She was great live". For half a second I thought that this was a great joke :rollin
:lol
Alannah Myles
I saw her open up for Robert Plant. She was great live.
I saw her three times back in the day when she was touring Europe and she was great.
And on top of that she was hot. She was pure erotic and seduction but not in a cheap way. :hefdaddy
I remember the rumors that Plant and she had a thing but who didn't Plant have a thing with? :lol
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Sometimes I wish I was Plant. :angel:
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What guy doesn't think that!
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Beth Hart her stuff with Joe Bonamassa is awesome, especially live
This. If folks are not familiar, they owe it to themselves to check it out.
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Beth Hart her stuff with Joe Bonamassa is awesome, especially live
This. If folks are not familiar, they owe it to themselves to check it out.
Agreed. Beth's stuff with Joe is absolutely incredible.
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Annie Haslam and Catherine Ribeiro
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Planet Earth. Their songs were on the radio everywhere. Their videos were on MTV. I look and say, how the hell couldnt you know who that is?.
Bte, I own every album but Garbage.
Is it The Cranberries?
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Alannah Myles
I saw her open up for Robert Plant. She was great live.
I saw that tour as well; during Plant's show he missed a cue after an extended song intro, and after the song he joked "sorry about that; the door to Alannah' dressing room got stuck..." To this day not sure if he was kidding or not. :)
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Planet Earth. Their songs were on the radio everywhere. Their videos were on MTV. I look and say, how the hell couldnt you know who that is?.
Bte, I own every album but Garbage.
Is it The Cranberries?
I feel like I'm on the side of the road, and every time I run up to the car door, you drive a little further down the road.... :) :) :)
The Cranberries are awesome, but everything I've posted has been about Shirley Manson, the lead singer of the band Garbage. That first Garbage album (and the second one, too) are very, very good records. It's like the melodies of the Beach Boys sung by Chrissie McVie over the music of... I don't know... Peter Gabriel, maybe? The part in "Only Happy When It Rains" when she sings "Pour... your misery down, pour... your misery down on me..." with the layered vocals, it's just really really good. Like ice cream.
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And her Scottish accent. MEOW!!!!!
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I voted for PJ Harvey. Partly because she's great and partly because I don't know the rest of these people.
Funny how that works...I have no idea who PJ Harvey is (other than what I gleaned by quickly googling her to make sure I didn't know who she is).
Not sure how one knows PJ Harvey and not Debbie Harry, Shirley Manson or Chrissie Hynde.
I not only don't know who PJ Harvey is, but I've also never heard of Shirley Manson.
I know who Shirley Manson is (although I can't say why because, AFAIK, I've never heard a single song by Garbage), but I too had never heard of PJ Harvey before reading Shadow Ninja's post yesterday.
Same is true of a lot of the "other" names being mentioned, although some I've heard of as a result of "hot female metal singers" lists.
Their videos were on MTV.
Now you're punking us! ;D When in the last 20 years has MTV played a video?
I had never heard of:
Shirley Manson
Suzi Quatro
PJ Harvey
Never watched Happy Days?
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:lol
In the mid 90's they still were! Also VH1 that lasted a little longer with the music programing.
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That first Garbage album (and the second one, too) are very, very good records. It's like the melodies of the Beach Boys sung by Chrissie McVie over the music of... I don't know... Peter Gabriel, maybe? The part in "Only Happy When It Rains" when she sings "Pour... your misery down, pour... your misery down on me..." with the layered vocals, it's just really really good. Like ice cream.
So what you're saying is Garbage recycles? :neverusethis:
I have literally never heard of Garbage.
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Tim was the kid that only ate chicken nuggets and mac n cheese since he liked it and never strayed.
I don't like change. -- Tim.
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TAC and I have to be long lost cousins or something. I know I don't know lots of artists that maybe I should. But in the 80s I was all about what was on MTV. I didn't have the internet to check out other bands. And I didn't know how else to. Once the 90s hit and I discovered classic rock, I knew what I liked and stuck with it. Same thing with the 00s and prog/metal. I didn't care what else was popular or what other people were listening to.
A friend of mine frequently cannot accept I don't know some "popular" song, because is is everywhere." I had to have heard it. If is isnt on my computer, phone, tablet, CD shelf part of a genre that I like and wpuld pursue checking out, or from a genre that would come up on one of the internet radio channels I frequent, why would I have heard it?
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TAC and I have to be long lost cousins or something. I know I don't know lots of artists that maybe I should. But in the 80s I was all about what was on MTV. I didn't have the internet to check out other bands. And I didn't know how else to. Once the 90s hit and I discovered classic rock, I knew what I liked and stuck with it. Same thing with the 00s and prog/metal. I didn't care what else was popular or what other people were listening to.
A friend of mine frequently cannot accept I don't know some "popular" song, because is is everywhere." I had to have heard it. If is isnt on my computer, phone, tablet, CD shelf part of a genre that I like and wpuld pursue checking out, or from a genre that would come up on one of the internet radio channels I frequent, why would I have heard it?
I completely get that. But at least with Garbage, specifically, they were played on MTV and mainstream rock radio in the '90s. And most people I know that followed MTV in the '80s, myself included, at least somewhat followed MTV and rock radio in the early and mid-'90s before the Internet really started to take off. I can't tell you much about that band, including naming any of their songs. But I do remember their name from that era. And once someone mentioned the title of "I'm Only Happy When It Rains," I at least vaguely remembered the chorus of that song (although I misremembered and thought it was a dude that sang it). You'd have to have ignored MTV and radio during that era to have NOT heard them.
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I'll see you all one Anneke Van Giersbergen, and raise you one
Cammie Gilbert (Oceans of Slumber).
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TAC and I have to be long lost cousins or something. I know I don't know lots of artists that maybe I should. But in the 80s I was all about what was on MTV. I didn't have the internet to check out other bands. And I didn't know how else to. Once the 90s hit and I discovered classic rock, I knew what I liked and stuck with it. Same thing with the 00s and prog/metal. I didn't care what else was popular or what other people were listening to.
A friend of mine frequently cannot accept I don't know some "popular" song, because is is everywhere." I had to have heard it. If is isnt on my computer, phone, tablet, CD shelf part of a genre that I like and wpuld pursue checking out, or from a genre that would come up on one of the internet radio channels I frequent, why would I have heard it?
I completely get that. But at least with Garbage, specifically, they were played on MTV and mainstream rock radio in the '90s. And most people I know that followed MTV in the '80s, myself included, at least somewhat followed MTV and rock radio in the early and mid-'90s before the Internet really started to take off. I can't tell you much about that band, including naming any of their songs. But I do remember their name from that era. And once someone mentioned the title of "I'm Only Happy When It Rains," I at least vaguely remembered the chorus of that song (although I misremembered and thought it was a dude that sang it). You'd have to have ignored MTV and radio during that era to have NOT heard them.
I'm with TAC and Chris (although, as noted, I've heard of Garbage and Shirley Manson, although I couldn't name and wouldn't recognize a single song). We got cable (and, hence, MTV) when I was a sophomore in high school (1982-83), and I religiously watched MTV for the next several years. By the end of the 80s, I barely watched it because hard rock/metal had all but vanished (save for Headbanger's Ball). I will admit to watching the Boston season of The Real World with my wife in 1997. As far as radio, from 1986-1995, I listened almost exclusively to KNAC (a hard rock/metal station in Southern California) and sports talk radio. In the 23 years since KNAC went off the air, I have probably spent no more than 5-10 hours listening to music on the radio.
According to Wikipedia, Garbage's first album came out in mid-1995, so there was never any real chance of me hearing them on the radio or on MTV. I couldn't tell you when or in what context I heard of Garbage, but it's not at all surprising to me that others in their 40s wouldn't know the band.
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That's because you had narrow vision back then. If I heard them on radio and MTV/VH1, it was out there.
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That's because you had narrow vision back then. If I heard them on radio and MTV/VH1, it was out there.
What was Garbage's big hit?
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Stupid Girl
I'm Only Happy When It Rains
These 2 were t of about 7 songs that were radio hits.
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Classic - Ann Wilson
Neo - Floor Jansen
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Stupid Girl
Just checked it on Spotify.
I have literally NEVER heard that before.
Starts off the same as Alice Cooper's Public Animal #9.
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Tim, what do you think of this? I've always got the Bondie , punk with pop sensibilities.
https://youtu.be/dcrv9nhH9iY
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In the wake of Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, and (to a way lesser extent, though I listened to the album a lot when it came out) Nirvana, it wasn't a stretch to hear about "Butch Vig's new gig!" (He produced Nevermind for Nirvana). Garbage was on the cover of Spin Magazine more than Bob Dylan is on the cover of Rolling Stone. And I'm not going to lie, and I'm not going to apologize, but I thought Shirley Manson was hot AF, and so I checked it out. "Only Happy When It Rains" is pretty much everything I love in music that isn't heavy metal; strong melody, layered voices, little mini-motifs that sneak their way in and are never heard again (ala Def Leppard). It was right up my alley, babay.
I get that someone might not have heard of them, but I also don't think it's quite like listening to some of the stuff that comes out in the roulettes around here ("Hey, here's the last song on the mini-EP released on Kuggelshrieber Records by the Norwegian black metal band "Satanal Crust"!). This is a band that did a Bond theme for fuck's sake ("The World Is Not Enough").
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Amanda Somerville
Floor Jansen
Charlotte Wessels
I can count.
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Tim, what do you think of this? I've always got the Bondie , punk with pop sensibilities.
https://youtu.be/dcrv9nhH9iY
Yeah, big time Blondie influence. I love Blondie and consider Eat To the Beat one of the greatest albums these ears have ever heard.
In the wake of Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, and (to a way lesser extent, though I listened to the album a lot when it came out) Nirvana, it wasn't a stretch to hear about "Butch Vig's new gig!" (He produced Nevermind for Nirvana). Garbage was on the cover of Spin Magazine more than Bob Dylan is on the cover of Rolling Stone. And I'm not going to lie, and I'm not going to apologize, but I thought Shirley Manson was hot AF, and so I checked it out. "Only Happy When It Rains" is pretty much everything I love in music that isn't heavy metal; strong melody, layered voices, little mini-motifs that sneak their way in and are never heard again (ala Def Leppard). It was right up my alley, babay.
I think Hole's Live Through This is phenomenal.
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If Linda Ronstadt and Joni Mitchell are on the list - and they deserve to be - then where are Aretha and Etta?
I have to go with Annie Lennox as my 2nd place. Aretha in her hey day, can't be beat. And I love Ann Wilson's voice a lot.
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If Linda Ronstadt and Joni Mitchell are on the list - and they deserve to be - then where are Aretha and Etta?
I have to go with Annie Lennox as my 2nd place. Aretha in her hey day, can't be beat. And I love Ann Wilson's voice a lot.
I agree, but did she ever actually sing anything rock-related?
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If Linda Ronstadt and Joni Mitchell are on the list - and they deserve to be - then where are Aretha and Etta?
I have to go with Annie Lennox as my 2nd place. Aretha in her hey day, can't be beat. And I love Ann Wilson's voice a lot.
I agree, but did she ever actually sing anything rock-related?
Which is why I pointed out Joni (folk) and Linda (country/pop) in the same vein. Aretha was the first woman inducted into the RnRHoF. Yes, she is technically the queen of soul but I'd put Respect and Chain of Fools up there for something "rock-related."
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If Linda Ronstadt and Joni Mitchell are on the list - and they deserve to be - then where are Aretha and Etta?
I have to go with Annie Lennox as my 2nd place. Aretha in her hey day, can't be beat. And I love Ann Wilson's voice a lot.
I agree, but did she ever actually sing anything rock-related?
Well...she was inducted into the Rock & Roll HOF 31 years ago....
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If Linda Ronstadt and Joni Mitchell are on the list - and they deserve to be - then where are Aretha and Etta?
I have to go with Annie Lennox as my 2nd place. Aretha in her hey day, can't be beat. And I love Ann Wilson's voice a lot.
I agree, but did she ever actually sing anything rock-related?
Well...she was inducted into the Rock & Roll HOF 31 years ago....
Laura Nyro. Madonna. There are a lot of criteria for being in the RnRHoF, but apparently playing "rock songs" isn't one of them...