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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: pg1067 on May 31, 2018, 11:36:36 AM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/05/22/mcdonalds-quarter-pounder-suit-diners-charged-unwanted-cheese/631948002/
It's things like this that make me embarrassed to be a lawyer.
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So McD's has monetized the value of the cheese, as evidenced by paying a lower price for the w/out version online or delivered, but at the store you're forced to pay for the cheese whether you want it or not? Not the sort of thing I'd sue over, but it does seem like McD's is in the wrong here. And I gather what they're actually going for is a class action case. There's no point in suing over a couple of bucks worth of damages.
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So McD's has monetized the value of the cheese, as evidenced by paying a lower price for the w/out version online or delivered, but at the store you're forced to pay for the cheese whether you want it or not? Not the sort of thing I'd sue over, but it does seem like McD's is in the wrong here. And I gather what they're actually going for is a class action case. There's no point in suing over a couple of bucks worth of damages.
Yup...they're seeking class action certification (and more than half of the complaint is devoted to the elements of class action certification under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure).
Not that I go to McDonald's more than once or twice a year, but I typically order a QP without cheese. I've never paid attention or really cared whether I pay less than if I had ordered it with cheese (I assume I don't), although I find it annoying that I can't just order "a quarter pounder" and get a burger without cheese, and if I want one with cheese, I would order "a quarter pounder with cheese." FWIW, Wendy's also does this.
It's annoying, but I wouldn't say McD's is "in the wrong." It offers Menu Item X, which comes with various ingredients. If you want it without one of those ingredients, there's no legal reason why you should get a discount.
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It's annoying, but I wouldn't say McD's is "in the wrong." It offers Menu Item X, which comes with various ingredients. If you want it without one of those ingredients, there's no legal reason why you should get a discount.
That's an interesting point. I'd always considered a quarter pounder to be a description rather than a product. However, they established the problem by deducting the cost on different platforms, thus monetizing the cheese.
I eat at McD's about once a decade, so I have no experience with this. I eat at Caine's about once a year, and they only offer 5 or so menu items. All are package deals that come with a drink. When I tell them no drink they discount ~60¢ or so. I suppose it could be argued that they're just being decent, but it's a very simple thing to do. In McD's case they simply found a way to milk an extra 40¢ or so from a quarter of their customers. Sort of like short-changing them a quarter at the drivethrough.
And I wonder if they coudln't go the ADA route with a few people who are lactose intolerant?
Also, my new resolution is to learn to play an instrument, hire some musicians, and record an album just so I can title it Monetizing the Cheese.
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Besides, anyone that doesn't want cheese should be the ones being sued for bad taste.
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Besides, anyone that doesn't want cheese should be the ones being sued for bad taste.
:lol
If it's advertised with cheese and you ask for it without it, I see no reason to get a discount. Just like asking for the same meal without lettuce. I don't expect a penny discount. Sounds to me like the person suing is just mad they don't offer a cheeseless version. Burger King does offer all their burgers without cheese and then the cheese is extra. McDonald's chose a different way to offer their meals. I don't see an issue with it. Just don't buy it if that's the case.
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I don't know what's worse: Someone suing McDonald's over cheese or the USA Today article. So many bad puns... :lol
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Did Derek Sherinian file this lawsuit?
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Besides, anyone that doesn't want cheese should be the ones being sued for bad taste.
It's American cheese. It doesn't do anything but add a layer of goo.
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Besides, anyone that doesn't want cheese should be the ones being sued for bad taste.
It's American cheese. It doesn't do anything but add a layer of goo.
But the goo is soo good
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I don't have an opinion on the lawsuit, but a nice order of McDonald's chicken nuggets is one of my favorite drunk foods.
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Besides, anyone that doesn't want cheese should be the ones being sued for bad taste.
It's American cheese. It doesn't do anything but add a layer of goo.
While I agree American cheese is the lowest form of cheese, it still improves that hamburger.
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Did Derek Sherinian file this lawsuit?
:lol :rollin
Besides, anyone that doesn't want cheese should be the ones being sued for bad taste.
It's American cheese. It doesn't do anything but add a layer of goo.
While I agree American cheese is the lowest form of cheese, it still improves that hamburger.
American cheese is cheddar cheese's bitch.
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I love me some Hoffman's sharp Cheddar. But now i have to watch out for salt so I have very little.
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I love me some Hoffman's sharp Cheddar. But now i have to watch out for salt so I have very little.
Egh. Hoffman's is pretty much Velveeta. The super-sharp has a tiny bit more flavor than Velveeta, so it was a better choice for things that need added creaminess, casseroles and whatnot, but it's the furthest thing from cheddar.
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Besides, anyone that doesn't want cheese should be the ones being sued for bad taste.
It's American cheese. It doesn't do anything but add a layer of goo.
While I agree American cheese is the lowest form of cheese, it still improves that hamburger.
True. I've found american cheese to go well with eggs and grilled cheeses, otherwise it's too bland, but still is better than no cheese.
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I only eat it - Land o'Lakes White American - on hamburgers, tuna fish sandwiches and roast beef sandwiches. Everything else, I prefer something with more bite. Big fan of prima donna, a Dutch cheese, or Piave. Provalone on Italian grinders. Blue cheese is excellent. I don't mind goat cheese on certain things, especially the goat cheese I have with the wine-rind coating.
Do not like Swiss, and especially do NOT like the "Kraft Cheese Product individual slices". :tdwn
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and especially do NOT like the "Kraft Cheese Product individual slices". :tdwn
And you call yourself an American.
GO BACK TO RUSSIA YOU COMMUNIST!
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Swiss definitely has its place in the universe. I wouldn't want to live in a world without grilled ham and swiss. Depending on which direction I go it might well wind up on a burger, as well.
For cheddar I was particularly fond of Collier's Welsh Cheddar, but TJ's stopped selling it. Damn tasty cheese and made a fantastic potato soup.
There's really not much cheese I don't like. I have no use for American, and I really dislike brie. Other than that I'm good to go. Cow, sheep, goat, beaver, buffalo, all fine by me.
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Swiss definitely has its place in the universe. I wouldn't want to live in a world without grilled ham and swiss. Depending on which direction I go it might well wind up on a burger, as well.
For cheddar I was particularly fond of Collier's Welsh Cheddar, but TJ's stopped selling it. Damn tasty cheese and made a fantastic potato soup.
There's really not much cheese I don't like. I have no use for American, and I really dislike brie. Other than that I'm good to go. Cow, sheep, goat, beaver, buffalo, all fine by me.
Venezuelan, of course.
Tillamook Extra Sharp White Cheddar is where it's at for me.
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Do not like Swiss, and especially do NOT like the "Kraft Cheese Product individual slices". :tdwn
True. I've found american cheese to go well with eggs and grilled cheeses, otherwise it's too bland, but still is better than no cheese.
This is exactly the scenario where the Kraft cheese slices are actually good. When you melt it onto eggs or bread. I won't say there are better options, there are, but there aren't many cheese that last long and are cheap and still work well than the Kraft slices than using them on eggs or grilled cheeses.
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I've had a lot of cheese. I don't think there's a cheese I've encountered that I dislike. I particularly like feta, on pizza. And ricotta in pasta shells. Mmm...
As for McDonald's, it's gross, but delicious, and I have no problem eating it when I'm super hungry or hungover.
The Kraft American slices of weird oddly orange cheese product go well on like a ham sandwich or a grilled cheese but not much else. Okay, a homemade burger, you can put any cheese on that...
Not sure where this thread, or post, is going. :lol
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Cow, sheep, goat, beaver, buffalo, all fine by me.
I usually prefer my beaver without cheese....
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Tillamook Extra Sharp White Cheddar is where it's at for me.
Ah....so good it often brings a tear to my eye. :hefdaddy
The cheese that is often used in fast food makes me want to hurl. But then again, most fast food makes me want to hurl. One of my kids is obsessed with McD's french fries. I don't get it. I just don't.
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Cow, sheep, goat, beaver, buffalo, all fine by me.
I usually prefer my beaver without cheese....
Technically, that's duck butter.
I'm probably going to regret this post.
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Swiss definitely has its place in the universe. I wouldn't want to live in a world without grilled ham and swiss. Depending on which direction I go it might well wind up on a burger, as well.
For cheddar I was particularly fond of Collier's Welsh Cheddar, but TJ's stopped selling it. Damn tasty cheese and made a fantastic potato soup.
There's really not much cheese I don't like. I have no use for American, and I really dislike brie. Other than that I'm good to go. Cow, sheep, goat, beaver, buffalo, all fine by me.
Venezuelan, of course.
Icee what you did there.
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Swiss definitely has its place in the universe. I wouldn't want to live in a world without grilled ham and swiss. Depending on which direction I go it might well wind up on a burger, as well.
For cheddar I was particularly fond of Collier's Welsh Cheddar, but TJ's stopped selling it. Damn tasty cheese and made a fantastic potato soup.
There's really not much cheese I don't like. I have no use for American, and I really dislike brie. Other than that I'm good to go. Cow, sheep, goat, beaver, buffalo, all fine by me.
Good call on the ham and Swiss; I'll give you that one though I'll swap out the ham for corned beef or pastrami. So I guess I do like Swiss. :)
As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM, but my GOD do I feel like shit after. Not always, but on an odd occasion it will even make me feel flu-like. As such I don't eat it much.
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Swiss definitely has its place in the universe. I wouldn't want to live in a world without grilled ham and swiss. Depending on which direction I go it might well wind up on a burger, as well.
For cheddar I was particularly fond of Collier's Welsh Cheddar, but TJ's stopped selling it. Damn tasty cheese and made a fantastic potato soup.
Good call on the ham and Swiss; I'll give you that one though I'll swap out the ham for corned beef or pastrami. So I guess I do like Swiss. :)
I was gonna say, without swiss would mean a world without a Rueben sandwich or a solid patty melt, and that's a world I'm not sure I want to live in.
Anyone interested in really killer cheeses should check out anything from Fiscalini. They do a bandage wrapped cheddar which is easily the best cheese I've ever had.
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I was gonna say, without swiss would mean a world without a Rueben Cuban sandwich or a solid patty melt, and that's a world I'm not sure I want to live in.
Corrected for accuracy.
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and especially do NOT like the "Kraft Cheese Product individual slices". :tdwn
And you call yourself an American.
GO BACK TO RUSSIA YOU COMMUNIST!
Donald? Is that you?
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Cow, sheep, goat, beaver, buffalo, all fine by me.
I usually prefer my beaver without cheese....
Your beaver? :rollin
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As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM,
Just out of curiosty, but why the Trademark?
Why not go ahead and use the ®?
:lol
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As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM,
Just out of curiosty, but why the Trademark?
Why not go ahead and use the ®?
:lol
The ® symbol is only properly used in connection with a registered trademark, whereas the ™ symbol is used where someone claims trademark rights in an unregistered mark.
"Quarter Pounder" is a registered mark, but "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not. "Big Mac," on the other hand, is registered (although McDonalds is not the only registrant since the term is used in other contexts), so "®" should be used.
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As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM,
Just out of curiosty, but why the Trademark?
Why not go ahead and use the ®?
:lol
The ® symbol is only properly used in connection with a registered trademark, whereas the ™ symbol is used where someone claims trademark rights in an unregistered mark.
"Quarter Pounder" is a registered mark, but "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not. "Big Mac," on the other hand, is registered (although McDonalds is not the only registrant since the term is used in other contexts), so "®" should be used.
Plus I could type tm by clicking "sup" and T and M and "sup". I wouldn't have the first clue how to type in the R with the circle around it. :) I knew I was making a mistake with the Big Mac (though I didn't realize that the "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not registered) but took the easy way out in favor of "comedy".
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As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM,
Just out of curiosty, but why the Trademark?
Why not go ahead and use the ®?
:lol
The ® symbol is only properly used in connection with a registered trademark, whereas the ™ symbol is used where someone claims trademark rights in an unregistered mark.
"Quarter Pounder" is a registered mark, but "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not. "Big Mac," on the other hand, is registered (although McDonalds is not the only registrant since the term is used in other contexts), so "®" should be used.
Plus I could type tm by clicking "sup" and T and M and "sup". I wouldn't have the first clue how to type in the R with the circle around it. :) I knew I was making a mistake with the Big Mac (though I didn't realize that the "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not registered) but took the easy way out in favor of "comedy".
alt+0174 ®
alt+0169 ©
alt+0153 ™
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As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM,
Just out of curiosty, but why the Trademark?
Why not go ahead and use the ®?
:lol
The ® symbol is only properly used in connection with a registered trademark, whereas the ™ symbol is used where someone claims trademark rights in an unregistered mark.
"Quarter Pounder" is a registered mark, but "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not. "Big Mac," on the other hand, is registered (although McDonalds is not the only registrant since the term is used in other contexts), so "®" should be used.
Plus I could type tm by clicking "sup" and T and M and "sup". I wouldn't have the first clue how to type in the R with the circle around it. :) I knew I was making a mistake with the Big Mac (though I didn't realize that the "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not registered) but took the easy way out in favor of "comedy".
Oh, so you're a lazy lawyer.
DISBARRED!
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As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM,
Just out of curiosty, but why the Trademark?
Why not go ahead and use the ®?
:lol
The ® symbol is only properly used in connection with a registered trademark, whereas the ™ symbol is used where someone claims trademark rights in an unregistered mark.
"Quarter Pounder" is a registered mark, but "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not. "Big Mac," on the other hand, is registered (although McDonalds is not the only registrant since the term is used in other contexts), so "®" should be used.
Plus I could type tm by clicking "sup" and T and M and "sup". I wouldn't have the first clue how to type in the R with the circle around it. :) I knew I was making a mistake with the Big Mac (though I didn't realize that the "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not registered) but took the easy way out in favor of "comedy".
alt+0174 ®
alt+0169 ©
alt+0153 ™
That only works if you use the keypad. You can't do it with the numbers at the top of the QWERTY keyboard.
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As for McDonald's, I make no bones about having cravings now and again for a Quarter Pounder with CheeseTM or a Big MacTM,
Just out of curiosty, but why the Trademark?
Why not go ahead and use the ®?
:lol
The ® symbol is only properly used in connection with a registered trademark, whereas the ™ symbol is used where someone claims trademark rights in an unregistered mark.
"Quarter Pounder" is a registered mark, but "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not. "Big Mac," on the other hand, is registered (although McDonalds is not the only registrant since the term is used in other contexts), so "®" should be used.
Plus I could type tm by clicking "sup" and T and M and "sup". I wouldn't have the first clue how to type in the R with the circle around it. :) I knew I was making a mistake with the Big Mac (though I didn't realize that the "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" is not registered) but took the easy way out in favor of "comedy".
I actually thought it odd that you used it at all. :biggrin: