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Title: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: WildRanger on April 17, 2018, 02:56:23 PM
How do you feel about this band?

Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2018, 03:31:40 PM
Nay- Can't stand the vocals or the style. Plus they seem to be political, and I really don't care for that either.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: bosk1 on April 17, 2018, 03:40:47 PM
Not my thing.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 17, 2018, 04:43:09 PM
Big time Yay.

Their first album is a classic for me. Bought the Super Deluxe 20th anniversary box when it came out.

I'm a Yay on Prophets of Rage as well. Love their first album.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: nattmorker on April 17, 2018, 04:51:28 PM
Not my thing either, I like some of their hits (but mainly because I play those song with my first band a long time ago). I tried to get into them and listen to their albums, not really my thing! I ended up skipping every song.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Accelerando on April 17, 2018, 05:04:38 PM
Love them! Down Rodeo is the tits!
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Sacul on April 17, 2018, 05:42:10 PM
Hell yay :2metal:
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 17, 2018, 05:52:55 PM
Loved their first album.......'Evil Empire' was alright......after that I couldn't tell you a thing about them other than they broke up. But I jammed to that first album non stop for a solid two or three years. Loved it!
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 17, 2018, 07:42:47 PM
Hell yay :2metal:

Big time hell yeah  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: gzarruk on April 17, 2018, 10:55:58 PM
I'd rather listen to Audioslave :biggrin:
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: noxon on April 18, 2018, 01:56:50 AM
Love them, and to this day I play a lot of their songs on guitar just cause I like the feel of the riffs.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 18, 2018, 06:07:32 AM
Yay, the first one is a modern classic. Never headbanged so hard as with seeing RATM and Clawfinger at Rock am Ring in the early 90s.  :metal :metal Couldn't lift my head for a couple of days.  ;D


Slightly OT: the first Audioslave is great as well.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 18, 2018, 06:34:11 AM
YAY. They have some killer songs.

That said Audioslave was waaaay better though.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: cramx3 on April 18, 2018, 07:53:32 AM
Nay

I don't know why, but this is a band I feel like I should love, yet I don't.  I was never able to get into them as a kid when everyone around me was obsessed.  I don't really care for the politicalness of the music as well, but they do have some killer guitar riffs.

I did see Prophets of Rage a couple years ago on their first tour and didn't love them, but also feel like I left more of a fan of RATM than I did when I started the day.  Tom Morello's playing was really cool and the music is fairly catchy.  I get why people love it.  Still, I voted nay because I still feel like they aren't my thing.  I'll be seeing Prophets of Rage again this summer when they open for Avenged Sevenfold though.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Stadler on April 18, 2018, 08:47:25 AM
I'm with Cram; really has nothing to do with the politics - I love REM - but the band itself.  I don't really care for Zack that much, and Tom Morello... I get it, he's legendary, but for me, EVERY SOLO is exactly the same:   some wacky noise that sounds like a vacuum cleaner sucking up marbles, then four bars of "weedly weedly" scales.   No thanks.   I'm a MASSIVE Chris Cornell fan, but Audioslave - for the same reasons - is my least favorite of his projects. 
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: TAC on April 18, 2018, 08:59:58 AM
I'd so much rather hear Tom Morello talk about music than actually play music.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 18, 2018, 09:02:44 AM
That Tom Morello comes up with a trick in almost every solo can sometimes be a bit too much, but he's much more than a whacky solo player.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Samsara on April 18, 2018, 09:13:28 AM
Yay, with a caveat - I don't at all agree with their politics. I just think they have a great groove.

I think Rage is powerful, and very distinct. Morello is nowhere near as good to my ears as so many try and make him out to be, but he takes a unique approach that I respect.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: cramx3 on April 18, 2018, 09:41:47 AM
Yay, with a caveat - I don't at all agree with their politics. I just think they have a great groove.

I think Rage is powerful, and very distinct. Morello is nowhere near as good to my ears as so many try and make him out to be, but he takes a unique approach that I respect.

Yea I agree.  He isn't some legend in my mind or anywhere near that, but when I saw him perform, I thought he brought a unique style and something new (to me at least) to the table in terms of what one can do with a guitar.  Doesn't make him a guitar great, but makes me respect him.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 18, 2018, 10:34:31 AM
Yay, with a caveat - I don't at all agree with their politics. I just think they have a great groove.

I think Rage is powerful, and very distinct. Morello is nowhere near as good to my ears as so many try and make him out to be, but he takes a unique approach that I respect.

Yea I agree.  He isn't some legend in my mind or anywhere near that, but when I saw him perform, I thought he brought a unique style and something new (to me at least) to the table in terms of what one can do with a guitar.  Doesn't make him a guitar great, but makes me respect him.

Yeah that's how I always felt about Tom, definitely not some legendary guitar hero status, but definitely a cool, unique player with a signature sound.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 18, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
I find that one of the more tasteful solos I liked from Tom Morello was from Audioslave's I Am The Highway where he didn't need to do the wacky guitar effects in the solo (I don't mind the wacky guitar effects from him in moderation).
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Anxiety35 on April 18, 2018, 11:01:50 AM
I voted nay. I'm similar in opinion with cram as I wanted to get into them but for some reason couldn't even when everyone else seemed to love them back in the day. They have a great groove to their music. I like "Bulls on Parade" but that's about it.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 18, 2018, 11:03:02 AM
Don't know if Morello is a legend or a guitar hero, but he is a unique player with a signature sound, as others have said. A lot of guitar players haven't reached that level.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Setlist Scotty on April 18, 2018, 11:08:46 AM
I respect them for being unique, but overall, I can't get into them. NAY.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Grappler on April 18, 2018, 11:28:52 AM
Nay.  I respect them for what they are, but have never cared for them outside of the few hit songs that they have.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: TAC on April 18, 2018, 11:58:12 AM
They have hit songs??
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 18, 2018, 12:48:09 PM
Killing In The Name was played almost everywhere in 93. At least in Germany.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: cramx3 on April 18, 2018, 01:28:43 PM
Yea, they were huge in the early 90s.  All over MTV if I recall as a child.  That's why I felt like everyone around me loved them.  They were mainstream.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Elite on April 18, 2018, 01:35:20 PM
Killing in the Name is quite okay, but massively overplayed. I don't care for any of their other songs, despite actually owning their debut album.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: gzarruk on April 18, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
YAY. They have some killer songs.

That said Audioslave was waaaay better though.

And now we'll never get another Audioslave album :'(

...unless they decide to call Richie Kotzen and make him their new singer :biggrin:
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 18, 2018, 10:42:32 PM
Yeah, I kinda like 'em though probably not as much as many other people.

I also think that Morello is a bit... overrated as a guitarist. Yeah, he does some unique things and has a very... stylistic approach but most of his solos sound like they belong in completely different songs. He's even worse on Audioslave.

Also "Killing In The Name" is stupidly, ridiculously repetitive and I hated it for a very long time because of that. However, it is very catchy and it somehow works despite it being the same lyrics repeated over and over and over again with only a semi-neat solo to redeem it. I do like it now but man, I couldn't stand it for the longest time.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: dparrott on April 19, 2018, 12:24:04 PM
I liked it, good mix of rock and rap.  But I hated acts like Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit.  They seemed like wannabe rappers to me.  Zach brought it, almost like a new Chuck D.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine New tour 2020
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 12, 2020, 08:08:48 AM
New tour

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rage-against-the-machine-announces-40-date-world-tour/

I can't wait
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Stadler on February 12, 2020, 09:25:28 AM
Yeah, I kinda like 'em though probably not as much as many other people.

I also think that Morello is a bit... overrated as a guitarist. Yeah, he does some unique things and has a very... stylistic approach but most of his solos sound like they belong in completely different songs. He's even worse on Audioslave.

Also "Killing In The Name" is stupidly, ridiculously repetitive and I hated it for a very long time because of that. However, it is very catchy and it somehow works despite it being the same lyrics repeated over and over and over again with only a semi-neat solo to redeem it. I do like it now but man, I couldn't stand it for the longest time.

This is almost exactly my take.   I don't think Morello sucks, but he's not at the level of those he (admittedly) is a big champion of. 

I'm not big on the rap/rock stuff generally, but it's more compelling from Rage than almost any other act.  You can't deny Zach's commitment. 
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: EPICVIEW on February 12, 2020, 12:18:36 PM
a few good songs  but Nay
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 12, 2020, 01:00:03 PM
I love RATM so a very loud YAY for me. There's something about their music that just gets me sooo pumped up. I think their music takes a new level when you hear it loudly in a car for example.

Man they where the shit in the 90s!
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: black_biff_stadler on February 12, 2020, 03:17:38 PM
They have hit songs??

Killing in the Name
Freedom
Bulls on Parade
People of the Sun
Guerilla Radio
Testify
Sleep Now in the Fire
Renegades of Funk
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 12, 2020, 03:28:35 PM
Big NAY for me.  Can't stand the singer, and I've never liked Morello's noise making.  Just not my cup of tea in any way, shape, or form.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Anguyen92 on February 12, 2020, 04:04:55 PM
I recall seeing Zac Brown Band (a country band) last year and in their encore they did some rock covers (Pour Some Sugar On Me and Hot For Teacher) and the final song of the night was Bulls on Parade and their fiddle player was the one singing it and I liked the cover and they pulled it off really well.  Sure, they didn't quite capture Morello's wacky guitar effects, but it wasn't a detriment to the performance at all.  So yes,  RATM is that kind of band that can have some crossover into areas of music that one wouldn't think would listen to RATM.  In fact, the first time I discovered Zac Brown Band on a live stream, they did a cover of Killing in the Name as the final song of the set that night as well.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Peter Mc on February 12, 2020, 04:37:05 PM
Amazing band, first album is a classic and Battle For Los Angeles has it’s moments. As for Morello, I get the comments about the weird solos but I saw him live with Audioslave and he absolutely blew me away. Hands down one of the greatest guitar players I’ve seen live and I’ve seen Ritchie Blackmore, Joe Satriani, Richie Sambora, John Petrucci, Steve Morse, Alex Lifeson, Edward Van Halen and Slash amongst others.  It almost felt like you were watching a throwback to Hendrix or something, like the guitar was an extension of his being. It’s hard to describe but he was incredible and some of those riffs he has are so incendiary, just igniting the crowd into a frenzy of headbanging and jumping. When they did Sleep Now In The Fire, the place went insane and this was an Audioslave show.
Title: Re: Rage Against the Machine - YAY or NAY?
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 12, 2020, 04:54:06 PM
I've been wanting to see them live for years. I was shocked when they announced the tour. Didn't think I would ever have the chance