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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: WildRanger on February 22, 2018, 01:24:59 PM
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Between these 7 band guitarists who is your favorite and why?
You can pick TWO of them if you want.
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None vGoing with Michael Schenker and Gary Moore.
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Lifeson & May.
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None Going with Michael Schenker
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Page and Gilmour, not necessarily the most talented but their solos are generally the most tasteful
I also would be able to tell a Lifeson solo but I'm not saying that as a good thing :corn
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Page and Gilmour, not necessarily the most talented but their solos are generally the most tasteful
I also would be able to tell a Lifeson solo but I'm not saying that as a good thing :corn
*Bitchslaps*
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None vGoing with Michael Schenker and Gary Moore.
Honestly I think those 2 guys are great, but not in the same league with 7 guys from a poll.
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Page and Gilmour, not necessarily the most talented but their solos are generally the most tasteful
I also would be able to tell a Lifeson solo but I'm not saying that as a good thing :corn
*Bitchslaps*
genuinely find most of his solos just really poorly constructed, sorry :lol
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Iommi is my fav there.
Went Lifeson just to choose a second but he's not a favourite of mine.
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None vGoing with Michael Schenker and Gary Moore.
Honestly I think those 2 guys are great, but not in the same league with 7 guys from a poll.
WTF?! Moore is better than all of those guys IMO. Still discovering Schenker but he's as good as the others also at least.
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Brian May was easy... The other one was really hard. Ended up going with Alex over Iommi and Gilmour.
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Alex is my favorite guitarist ever, so that was an easy pick, but having to choose between Gilmour and Iommi was brutal, because both are fantastic in different ways. Went with Gilmour in the end.
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Page
Gilmour
Blackmore
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Alex and Eddie
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None vGoing with Michael Schenker and Gary Moore.
Honestly I think those 2 guys are great, but not in the same league with 7 guys from a poll.
You haven't listened to Gary Moore then.
You can stick to the well known classics. No problem, but to say that Gary Moore is not in the same league...well, he might be in the league ABOVE.
Schenker's discog is obviously spotty, but if you simply take the 70's material, which is what most of these guys on your list truly contributed, then he's easily in the conversation, playingwise. he just may not be as popular because his band wasn't.
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Page and Gilmour, not necessarily the most talented but their solos are generally the most tasteful
I also would be able to tell a Lifeson solo but I'm not saying that as a good thing :corn
*Bitchslaps*
genuinely find most of his solos just really poorly constructed, sorry :lol
You cray cray! :lol
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Iommi and Blackmore (especially for Rainbow), Brian May comes third.
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My votes went to Lifeson and Iommi.
Lifeson because...Rush.
Iommi edged out Blackmore by the narrowest of margins, and if I had this to do over again, I might flip flop them.
4-7 are as follows:
4. May
5. Page
6. Van Halen
7. Gilmour
Never been a Floyd fan, so putting Gilmour last is easy for me. I probably like Zep more than I like Queen, but I think May is ultimately a better guitarist. I probably could re-order 4-6 on any give day depending on my mood.
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None vGoing with Michael Schenker and Gary Moore.
Honestly I think those 2 guys are great, but not in the same league with 7 guys from a poll.
You haven't listened to Gary Moore then.
You can stick to the well known classics. No problem, but to say that Gary Moore is not in the same league...well, he might be in the league ABOVE.
Schenker's discog is obviously spotty, but if you simply take the 70's material, which is what most of these guys on your list truly contributed, then he's easily in the conversation, playingwise. he just may not be as popular because his band wasn't.
He is bro.
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EVH by a mile in terms of influemce on my life and therefore favourite.
Lifeson aside (as I haven't listened to enough Rush to have a strong view) I rate them all as guitarists but none of them have been the focus that EVH was for some time there. Of the next tier probably Iommi - more in terms of influence than my views on his technical capability.
Like Tim , (EVH aside) Moore had more impact on me than the others.
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Brian May is the best. Memorable riffs. Solos that are so melodic it's like listening to a separate song. Unique signature sound. And amazing songwriting.
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Lifeson is leading? I can't believe.
Am I on the Rush forum, lol?
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Lifeson is leading? I can't believe.
Am I on the Rush forum, lol?
Lifeson and Gilmour over these other guitarists. LOL
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Lifeson and May
Went with who I liked most as a writer, not technical ability.
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Like Tim , (EVH aside) Moore had more impact on me than the others.
Looks like something else us boys have in common. Besides Iommi influence wise, Moore I agree has so much more impact and IMO is overall a better guitarist.
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Like Tim , (EVH aside) Moore had more impact on me than the others.
Looks like something else us boys have in common. Besides Iommi influence wise, Moore I agree has so much more impact and IMO is overall a better guitarist.
Personally I would put Rory Gallagher over Gary Moore.
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EVH and it's really not even close. If we're talking about "favorite" then I can see the results being all over the place, but I tend to default to "best" in polls like this and under that you've got Blackmore and EVH, plus some other guys.
Gary Moore would easily be in the BLackmore/EVH tier. He had a versatility that all but RB lack. Dude could play anything exceptionally well.
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Lifeson is leading? I can't believe.
Am I on the Rush forum, lol?
Why not? There is no shame in voting for any of these guys. They are all that good.
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Lifeson is leading? I can't believe.
Am I on the Rush forum, lol?
No, but you are on a prog bands forum, not a classic rock or strict metal forum.
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I've been blessed to see each of them live, all more than once (except for May). Blackmore and not just because he's my favorite musician ever. EVH is a close second, but watching Blackmore play was a transcendent experience. The last time I saw him, my daughter was there, and she was bored to tears and checking her phone, but when Blackmore played the extended intro to "Soldier of Fortune" she put her phone down and after the show she said "Wow, that guy can play."
(I would put Randy Rhoads in there too).
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(I would put Randy Rhoads in there too).
He would be my 2nd choice if he was in the poll. Criss Oliva would be up there too.
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Uli Jon Roth and Neal Schon ;D
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(I would put Randy Rhoads in there too).
He would be my 2nd choice if he was in the poll. Criss Oliva would be up there too.
So underrated.
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Am I on the Rush forum, lol?
Pretty much! ;D
Gary Moore would easily be in the BLackmore/EVH tier. He had a versatility that all but RB lack. Dude could play anything exceptionally well.
As Redd Foxx would say...xactly!
Personally I would put Rory Gallagher over Gary Moore.
Man, WildRanger, you sure have a low view on Gary Moore. I'm all for having your favorites and all, but as a guitarist, I actually think he's the most talented of the bunch.
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For the sake of the poll, given the choices, I went with Blackmore and Eddie Van Halen. Both are great.
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For the sake of the poll, given the choices, I went with Blackmore and Eddie Van Halen. Both are great.
No one cares about your sakes. :neverusethis:
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You care. You know you care.
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You care. You know you care.
For you baby. For you.
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Uli Jon Roth and Neal Schon ;D
Yeah, there's two more guys missing that are easily in league with anyone else that has been mentioned.
The first three Journey albums (pre-Steve Perry) are some of the greatest guitar albums ever recorded.
And talking about diversity, Uli Roth could/can play any style imaginable. I doubt that any of these other players could even approach the classical guitar intro to Fly to the Rainbow.
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And talking about diversity, Uli Roth could/can play any style imaginable. I doubt that any of these other players could even approach the classical guitar intro to Fly to the Rainbow.
When it comes to classical guitar Roth is great, but he can't touch Blackmore. And Blackmore could easily approach the intro to Fly to the Rainbow. I doubt that UJR could approach this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pgZIFtKUzw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pgZIFtKUzw)
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Gilmour and Iommi.
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Look, we're clearly talking about the cream of the crop here, so it's not as if any one of these guys suck or anything, but having seen it up close and personal (I was front row for my last Blackmore's Night show; no, not in costume), I'm pretty sure the only limitation on Blackmore is whether he could think of it or not. "Fly To The Rainbow" is beautiful and all, but there's work on each of the BN records that approaches that.
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I think Knopfler is more awesome than all of them ;)
But I selected Gilmour and May.
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Page and Gilmour
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Lifeson's style of guitar playing is a bit derivative of Page and he got 10 votes more than Page? Once in the interview Alex openly admitted that he has always wanted to be like Page. I've heard Page in many of his guitar works.
Fanboyism of Lifeson voters is obvious here, LOL.
I love Lifeson and he is probably in my top 10 favorite guitarists, but no way I would ever put him ahead of Page. I find it unfair.
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Eddie Van Halen
and then maybe Jimmy Page
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Lifeson's style of guitar playing is a bit derivative of Page and he got 10 votes more than Page? Once in the interview Alex openly admitted that he has always wanted to be like Page. I've heard Page in many of his guitar works.
Fanboyism of Lifeson voters is obvious here, LOL.
I love Lifeson and he is probably in my top 10 favorite guitarists, but no way I would ever put him ahead of Page. I find it unfair.
I've always found both of them very important to their respective bands and creative at their instruments, but overrated as guitarists.
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Lifeson's style of guitar playing is a bit derivative of Page and he got 10 votes more than Page? Once in the interview Alex openly admitted that he has always wanted to be like Page. I've heard Page in many of his guitar works.
Fanboyism of Lifeson voters is obvious here, LOL.
I love Lifeson and he is probably in my top 10 favorite guitarists, but no way I would ever put him ahead of Page. I find it unfair.
So a guitarist can look up to another guitarist and never surpass him? I would point out Tom Brady idolized Joe Montana yet Brady surpassed him.
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I think what tends to muddy the waters when it comes to guys like Gary Moore and Michael Schenker is the career arc of these 2 guitarists. While at their peak, they bounced around from one band or another, which makes their music a bit harder to pin down (at least for me).
On the other hand, each guitarist listed in this poll can basically be identified with a single iconic classic rock band.
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muddy waters
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muddy waters
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:biggrin: icwatudidthere
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I think what tends to muddy the waters when it comes to guys like Gary Moore and Michael Schenker is the career arc of these 2 guitarists. While at their peak, they bounced around from one band or another, which makes their music a bit harder to pin down (at least for me).
On the other hand, each guitarist listed in this poll can basically be identified with a single iconic classic rock band.
Definitely.
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Lifeson and EVH. If I could pick 3, Gilmour would be on here. Oh, and Tom Scholz.
Steve Howe should be on the list! Even Trevor Rabin, though he wasn't known til the early eighties. I think it's safe to say early eighties can qualify for classic rock now.
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I'm as big a Boston fan as there is - I even like the later shit - but I don't see Tom Scholz being in the same league as Ritchie Blackmore and Eddie Van Halen. If you're going to include Scholz, then you might as well put Rick Nielson in there, as well as Elliot Easton, Brad Gillis, and Tommy Shaw.
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None vGoing with Michael Schenker and Gary Moore.
NAILED IT :hefdaddy Absolutely agreed :metal
But for the sake of this poll: Blackmore/ Iommi
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I'm as big a Boston fan as there is - I even like the later shit - but I don't see Tom Scholz being in the same league as Ritchie Blackmore and Eddie Van Halen. If you're going to include Scholz, then you might as well put Rick Nielson in there, as well as Elliot Easton, Brad Gillis, and Tommy Shaw.
I see Scholz as more of an innovator and songwriter than a great guitarist (which isn't to say I think he's a bad guitarist, but I agree he's not in the same league as the players in this poll).
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Lifeson's style of guitar playing is a bit derivative of Page and he got 10 votes more than Page? Once in the interview Alex openly admitted that he has always wanted to be like Page. I've heard Page in many of his guitar works.
Fanboyism of Lifeson voters is obvious here, LOL.
I love Lifeson and he is probably in my top 10 favorite guitarists, but no way I would ever put him ahead of Page. I find it unfair.
So a guitarist can look up to another guitarist and never surpass him? I would point out Tom Brady idolized Joe Montana yet Brady surpassed him.
This - as far as the general notion that you can't look up to someone and then surpass them goes. Whether Alex surpassed Jimmy Page or not is a matter of debate and I won't even try. I will say that this poll is about favorites, or at least that's how it's worded, and Alex is my favorite of those listed. Maybe he isn't technically as good as EVH or whoever, but I don't care. Music for me is how I feel when I listen to it, and Alex Lifeson makes me feel much more than the others on this poll.
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Agreed, I like Alex's creativity and sense of Melody. He can also shred when he wants to ala' Freewill, La Villa, Cut To The Chase, Working Man etc..
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Yes indeed. :)
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Lifeson certainly tugs at my emotional core more than Jimmy Page ever has, and Lifeson's never been accused of plagiarism as far as I know, so that's two points in his favor for me :hat
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Lifeson certainly tugs at my emotional core more than Jimmy Page ever has, and Lifeson's never been accused of plagiarism as far as I know, so that's two points in his favor for me :hat
Before you spend both of those points, listen to Journey's "Nickel and Dime". Just sayin'.
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Ill take the end solo for Mission, Emotion Detector & Ghost Of A Chance over most.
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While we're on the subject of Alex's solos, the one's in Marathon, and Analog Kid are awesome too!
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It usually gets overlooked amongst his many great solos, but Alex's solo at the end of Presentation in 2112 has always been one of my favorites.
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Ghost Of A Chance
Great Alex track.
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What a surprise (not!) that Alex Lifeson is leading, and that on a prog forum!
My votes went to Brian May and David Gilmour
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Page and Lifeson.
Iommi, Gilmour and May are also fantastic, though.
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Ritchie Blackmore is my favourite guitarist.
Choosing one more is quite difficult. I like Page, Iommi, May and Gilmour for different reasons...
Oh well, Gilmour it is then.
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I like all of those players for different reasons . No other specifics were mentioned for the purpose of the poll so I went with " The most innovative and influential " . I chose Page and Blackmore. If none of the other guys ever existed I believe that the world of guitar may not be in a much different place today. Honorable mention along those lines is Robin Trower.
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If Van Halen hadn't played guitar the world of rock guitar would be vastly different.
Of course that doesn't mean that the others weren't influential also.
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Lifeson and Gilmour.
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How is Ritchie Blackmore in last place in this poll?? That defies reason.
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How is Ritchie Blackmore in last place in this poll?? That defies my taste.
Fixed.
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Gilmour and Blackmore for me.
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How is Ritchie Blackmore in last place in this poll?? That defies reason.
The others are all way better. Sometimes a simple question requires a simple answer. :biggrin:
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How is Ritchie Blackmore in last place in this poll?? That defies reason.
I'm with you. Blackmore is easily my favourite of the classic rock guitarists. That Gypsy's Kiss unison doesn't get anywhere near enough love!
Gilmour gets my second vote.
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How is Ritchie Blackmore in last place in this poll?? That defies my taste.
Fixed.
Well, duh. Hahaha. It was more of an observation than a literal expression of opinion as fact. :) I get it. :)
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Speaking of Blackmore, if you could pick one album to show someone what he's all about, which would it be?
Question for anyone..
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Speaking of Blackmore, if you could pick one album to show someone what he's all about, which would it be?
Question for anyone..
Machine Head is probably his most famous, but Perfect Strangers is my favorite DP album. A side question about Perfect Strangers, I was told years ago that RB played cello at the beginning of Knocking at your back door. Stadler, do you know if this is true?
Then there's Rainbow Rising. That album is a fuckin' monster!
Just picking between those three would be tough.
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Perfect Strangers or Rainbow Rising I agree.
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Speaking of Blackmore, if you could pick one album to show someone what he's all about, which would it be?
Question for anyone..
In Rock, Made in Japan, Rainbow Debut
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I voted Steve Howe and Pete Townshend.
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I’m only bringing this up because 1) we are talking about classic rock guitar players, and the abilities of some that are not on the poll and 2) there is a recent thread about AC/DC.
...and I’m telling you right now that Angus Young is possibly the most UNDERRATED soloist in classic rock. He gets completely overlooked because he is in a “only 3 chords” band, but I can count the number of guitarists who’s solos I have actually memorized *note for note* because they were so memorable and perfect...and Angus is easily in the top 3. Soul Stripper, Riff Raff, and Let There Be Rock are particularly excellent examples. I’m positive I can’t be alone in this opinion. I have even heard (in the past, though exactly who does admittedly slip my mind) respected guitarists sing Angus’ praises and insist that he gets overlooked because the music is so simplistic...but his solos are amazing.
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Speaking of Blackmore, if you could pick one album to show someone what he's all about, which would it be?
Question for anyone..
In Rock. Nuff said.
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Speaking of Blackmore, if you could pick one album to show someone what he's all about, which would it be?
Question for anyone..
Made In Japan or Long Live Rock and Roll.
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Stadler, do you know if this is true?
Well, with two caveats - one, I wasn't there, and two, Blackmore can be notoriously vague about stuff like that - I have heard that as well. I have also heard that there is cello on Long Live Rock and Roll (the album), too (well, there is officially cello on "Rainbow Eyes", but Blackmore didn't take credit for it; he played bass on half that album and didn't take credit for that either, at least originally, so...). He has said specifically that he wrote Stargazer and Gates of Babylon on cello, and that he has recorded the cello on backing track for songs, but that's it.
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I’m only bringing this up because 1) we are talking about classic rock guitar players, and the abilities of some that are not on the poll and 2) there is a recent thread about AC/DC.
...and I’m telling you right now that Angus Young is possibly the most UNDERRATED soloist in classic rock. He gets completely overlooked because he is in a “only 3 chords” band, but I can count the number of guitarists who’s solos I have actually memorized *note for note* because they were so memorable and perfect...and Angus is easily in the top 3. Soul Stripper, Riff Raff, and Let There Be Rock are particularly excellent examples. I’m positive I can’t be alone in this opinion. I have even heard (in the past, though exactly who does admittedly slip my mind) respected guitarists sing Angus’ praises and insist that he gets overlooked because the music is so simplistic...but his solos are amazing.
For a band that gets slagged so often for being "a three chord band" who has made the same album "17 times" (even Malcolm said that in an interview that is on the "Plug Me In" set), Angus's solos are rather diverse. He's really good. I've often said that I would love love love to hear him and Malcolm in a room, with two acoustic guitars... obviously that will never happen, but there's a snippet of the two of them playing backstage before a show in '83 on the Plug Me In set; I ripped the DVD and made a track out of it and it's really cool to hear.
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I’m only bringing this up because 1) we are talking about classic rock guitar players, and the abilities of some that are not on the poll and 2) there is a recent thread about AC/DC.
...and I’m telling you right now that Angus Young is possibly the most UNDERRATED soloist in classic rock. He gets completely overlooked because he is in a “only 3 chords” band, but I can count the number of guitarists who’s solos I have actually memorized *note for note* because they were so memorable and perfect...and Angus is easily in the top 3. Soul Stripper, Riff Raff, and Let There Be Rock are particularly excellent examples. I’m positive I can’t be alone in this opinion. I have even heard (in the past, though exactly who does admittedly slip my mind) respected guitarists sing Angus’ praises and insist that he gets overlooked because the music is so simplistic...but his solos are amazing.
I would agree that he's underrated (and that the "AC/DC is a 3-chord band" thing is overplayed). However, I don't think that he's anything particularly special (which may, in and of itself, constitute underrating him, but so be it).
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I’m only bringing this up because 1) we are talking about classic rock guitar players, and the abilities of some that are not on the poll and 2) there is a recent thread about AC/DC.
...and I’m telling you right now that Angus Young is possibly the most UNDERRATED soloist in classic rock. He gets completely overlooked because he is in a “only 3 chords” band, but I can count the number of guitarists who’s solos I have actually memorized *note for note* because they were so memorable and perfect...and Angus is easily in the top 3. Soul Stripper, Riff Raff, and Let There Be Rock are particularly excellent examples. I’m positive I can’t be alone in this opinion. I have even heard (in the past, though exactly who does admittedly slip my mind) respected guitarists sing Angus’ praises and insist that he gets overlooked because the music is so simplistic...but his solos are amazing.
I would agree that he's underrated (and that the "AC/DC is a 3-chord band" thing is overplayed). However, I don't think that he's anything particularly special (which may, in and of itself, constitute underrating him, but so be it).
I agree.
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Gilmour and Lifeson, both had incredible sense of melody and are able to write the perfect solo for the song.
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Angus is a really good bluesy solo player, but AC/DC is all about the rhythm and groove. So yeah, he's good but he's nothing special. I don't know if he's underrated though.
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Pure speculation, and so not relevant to this conversation, but I feel like Angus is one of those guys that, in his living room, can bang out the entire Mussgorsky Pictures At An Exhibition piece on acoustic guitar. Or maybe I'd just like to think that.
I think - for me anyway - as much as I love AC/DC, their singular focus has not gained them credibility, but lost them a little credibility. People change. People grow. People evolve. Someone like Ritchie Blackmore - who is way off the reservation compared to his work with Deep Purple - to me has followed his muse. Even Eddie VH; Van Halen today doesn't sound like Van Halen from 1978. Other than my taste in women ("I get older, they seem to stay the same age") there is very little I like now at 50 to the same degree I liked it when I was 20. Even Iron Maiden went prog, then dropped an acoustic song into the mix. By staying so singular in their approach, it sort of smacks of calculation and "product".
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Pure speculation, and so not relevant to this conversation, but I feel like Angus is one of those guys that, in his living room, can bang out the entire Mussgorsky Pictures At An Exhibition piece on acoustic guitar. Or maybe I'd just like to think that.
I think - for me anyway - as much as I love AC/DC, their singular focus has not gained them credibility, but lost them a little credibility. People change. People grow. People evolve. Someone like Ritchie Blackmore - who is way off the reservation compared to his work with Deep Purple - to me has followed his muse. Even Eddie VH; Van Halen today doesn't sound like Van Halen from 1978. Other than my taste in women ("I get older, they seem to stay the same age") there is very little I like now at 50 to the same degree I liked it when I was 20. Even Iron Maiden went prog, then dropped an acoustic song into the mix. By staying so singular in their approach, it sort of smacks of calculation and "product".
But once in awhile....it still feels really good that my Levi 501’s are still the same. So it’s kinda like that.
And people mention Angus dismissively as being “a decent blues player”, and in the same breath, we’re singing the praises of Gilmour. :-\
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Not sure what to say about that; Gilmour is gifted, if not in his note choice, then his technique for delivering it. One of the highlights of my concert-going experience is sitting in the old new Yankee Stadium and watching Gilmour deliver an extended version of the "Comfortably Numb" solo... the guy can play.