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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: The Letter M on February 20, 2018, 01:01:34 PM
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So I'm sitting here at work and while trying to figure out what to put on my WMP for the day, I open my playlist of the Dream Theater NYC 3/4/93 official bootleg, and it got me thinking about how in an alternate reality, if DT were bigger, their first live album should have been this show. It's a monster set list of songs from their first two albums (with all of IAW peppered throughout), featuring one of the first four performances of "A Change Of Seasons", as well as a performance of "Eve"! It would rank up there with classic prog live albums like Yessongs, Seconds Out, and Exit...Stage Left for me. I mean, it still kind of does, but can you imagine if DT themselves had officially released this show after the IAW Tour?
And thinking about my other favorite band, Rush, I went through a whole process of crafting a whole series of complete live shows from all of their tours, creating a CD binder with all of them, and of all the tours they had, the Hemispheres Tour deserved an officially released, complete live show. The set list on that tour is insane, with full performances of "Hemispheres" and a good chunk of "2112", as well as many more tunes from their then most recent albums. I'm hoping that if they continue the trend of offering deluxe 40th Anniversary editions of their albums that we get a Hemispheres show in that set, because I love the AFTK show we got, FINALLY in full.
So what other bands' tours or shows do you wish had official releases? They can be from more recent bands and tours, or even things from the past, like a complete live "Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" from Genesis that wasn't riddled with modern overdubs, or a whole "Tales From Topographic Oceans" show from Yes? Even if things like these exist in the bootleg world, official or otherwise, you can still list them if you WISH they had been official, because at least then there'd be better mixing and mastering, and the package would be nice (presumably).
-Marc.
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Iron Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death Tour immediately comes to mind
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Iron Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death Tour immediately comes to mind
First thing that came to mine.
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Van Halen 1984 Tour
Def Leppard Pyromania Tour
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Def Leppard Pyromania Tour
https://www.amazon.com/Pyromania-Deluxe-Def-Leppard/dp/B0027WNRIG/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1519159022&sr=1-1&keywords=def+leppard+pyromania+deluxe+edition
"The smashes Photograph; Rock of Ages , and Foolin' join the rest of the 1983 Mutt Lange production and an unissued 15-song show at the LA Forum that year!"
I have this J Dude. It's excellent.
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Page/Plant UnLedded tour.
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Iron Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death Tour immediately comes to mind
First thing that came to mine.
Thankfully the tour was bootlegged the hell out of.
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Yes Masterworks tour is the first to pop into my head.
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Rush - Presto Tour 1990
Boston - Walk-On/Greatest Hits Tour 1997
Yes - Talk Tour 1994
And of course, Dream Theater - The Astonishing tour
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Yes Masterworks tour is the first to pop into my head.
That's a pretty intense set list, a lot of fan-fave epics. You'd think with a title like "Masterworks Tour", they would've capitalized on that and recorded a show for sale later on.
Rush - Presto Tour 1990
Thank goodness we've got the Hartford soundboard (despite a small bit of "Force Ten" missing at the beginning of the show), but I agree, that's a good tour!
Yes - Talk Tour 1994
For fans of Rabin-Era Yes, this is a treasure trove of those songs, and some of the best material from Talk played live! Looking at the set list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yes_concert_tours_(1980s%E2%80%9390s)#Talk_Tour), it's a great retrospective on the band's prior four albums as a whole, so it'd be neat to get a complete show from that tour, with alternate set tracks as bonus tracks!
And of course, Dream Theater - The Astonishing tour
I have been curious about this. I haven't kept up with DT news much lately, outside of knowing they plan to go into the studio later this year, but you'd think with a big concept album like The Astonishing, and for touring on it as much as they did, they would've opted to release a live album! Maybe the less-than-stellar reception to the album and tour had made them think it wouldn't be worth the work to put out a live album.
-Marc.
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Well said about the Yes Talk Tour Marc! That was my favorite Yes concert ever that year at The Gorge amphitheatre in Washington state.
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And of course, Dream Theater - The Astonishing tour
I have been curious about this. I haven't kept up with DT news much lately, outside of knowing they plan to go into the studio later this year, but you'd think with a big concept album like The Astonishing, and for touring on it as much as they did, they would've opted to release a live album! Maybe the less-than-stellar reception to the album and tour had made them think it wouldn't be worth the work to put out a live album.
-Marc.
Basically: They planned to film it on the second N. Am. leg. That leg was supposed to have been booked PRIMARILY to serve areas where they had not toured on the first leg. Instead, somebody dropped the ball and booked it incorrectly so that they repeated in a bunch of markets they had already played, which led to lower attendance and lower interest the second time around (as well as a much LONGER tour than the band intended for that leg). JP was not happy. Then there was a BIG demand for an I&W anniversary tour, so they booked an extensive tour to promote that. They had selected a city to revisit The Astonishing for a filming later on. But given that they already make very little on their live releases, given the time and expense of dusting it off to do that one-off show, and given that the market got over-saturated on an album that was already fairly divisive, they felt like it wasn't worth it.
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Sad that's the way things turned out, but I don't blame them for that choice. Just sucks for the people like us who really would have enjoyed watching that show on blu-ray and the people who couldn't make it to a show.
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Iron Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death Tour immediately comes to mind
Along with the Somewhere In Time tour.
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Queensryche - Promised Land tour
Radiohead - In Rainbows tour
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And of course, Dream Theater - The Astonishing tour
I have been curious about this. I haven't kept up with DT news much lately, outside of knowing they plan to go into the studio later this year, but you'd think with a big concept album like The Astonishing, and for touring on it as much as they did, they would've opted to release a live album! Maybe the less-than-stellar reception to the album and tour had made them think it wouldn't be worth the work to put out a live album.
-Marc.
Basically: They planned to film it on the second N. Am. leg. That leg was supposed to have been booked PRIMARILY to serve areas where they had not toured on the first leg. Instead, somebody dropped the ball and booked it incorrectly so that they repeated in a bunch of markets they had already played, which led to lower attendance and lower interest the second time around (as well as a much LONGER tour than the band intended for that leg). JP was not happy. Then there was a BIG demand for an I&W anniversary tour, so they booked an extensive tour to promote that. They had selected a city to revisit The Astonishing for a filming later on. But given that they already make very little on their live releases, given the time and expense of dusting it off to do that one-off show, and given that the market got over-saturated on an album that was already fairly divisive, they felt like it wasn't worth it.
That could a reason why they decided to go to Inside Out.
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Queensryche - Promised Land tour
YES!
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Mayhem and Ozzfest could've used some good dvds for some of their shows they had.
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Def Leppard Pyromania Tour
https://www.amazon.com/Pyromania-Deluxe-Def-Leppard/dp/B0027WNRIG/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1519159022&sr=1-1&keywords=def+leppard+pyromania+deluxe+edition
"The smashes Photograph; Rock of Ages , and Foolin' join the rest of the 1983 Mutt Lange production and an unissued 15-song show at the LA Forum that year!"
I have this J Dude. It's excellent.
Oh wow!! Thanks!! One more thing for me to put in the "queue"
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And of course, Dream Theater - The Astonishing tour
I have been curious about this. I haven't kept up with DT news much lately, outside of knowing they plan to go into the studio later this year, but you'd think with a big concept album like The Astonishing, and for touring on it as much as they did, they would've opted to release a live album! Maybe the less-than-stellar reception to the album and tour had made them think it wouldn't be worth the work to put out a live album.
-Marc.
Basically: They planned to film it on the second N. Am. leg. That leg was supposed to have been booked PRIMARILY to serve areas where they had not toured on the first leg. Instead, somebody dropped the ball and booked it incorrectly so that they repeated in a bunch of markets they had already played, which led to lower attendance and lower interest the second time around (as well as a much LONGER tour than the band intended for that leg). JP was not happy. Then there was a BIG demand for an I&W anniversary tour, so they booked an extensive tour to promote that. They had selected a city to revisit The Astonishing for a filming later on. But given that they already make very little on their live releases, given the time and expense of dusting it off to do that one-off show, and given that the market got over-saturated on an album that was already fairly divisive, they felt like it wasn't worth it.
That sucks. We got "robbed" of a live release because of situations external to the band and their creative vision.
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Every Toto tour with Jeff Porcaro still on drums.
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Roger Waters. Almost any of his tours that didn't have a proper live release really should have done. Even the KAOS on the Road tour.
Scratch that - Any of those classic Floyd tours should have been captured for posterity.
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Iron Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death Tour immediately comes to mind
Along with the Somewhere In Time tour.
Yes!
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Judas Priest's Painkiller tour.
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Hand Cannot Erase desperately needed a live dvd
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Hand Cannot Erase desperately needed a live dvd
Yup. Came here to post just that. Super disappointing that he meant to document it but never got around it in time.
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Hand Cannot Erase desperately needed a live dvd
Band?
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Hand Cannot Erase desperately needed a live dvd
Band?
Don't worry, you'd hate it.
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Def Leppard Pyromania Tour
https://www.amazon.com/Pyromania-Deluxe-Def-Leppard/dp/B0027WNRIG/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1519159022&sr=1-1&keywords=def+leppard+pyromania+deluxe+edition
"The smashes Photograph; Rock of Ages , and Foolin' join the rest of the 1983 Mutt Lange production and an unissued 15-song show at the LA Forum that year!"
I have this J Dude. It's excellent.
As do I, and I agree.
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Page/Plant UnLedded tour.
There is a DVD of songs from that first go-round. It's not really a complete live show. Unless you're talking about the bigger tour they did in support of "Walking Into Clarksdale", in which case, I'm right there with you.
For me, I have some weird ones:
- A Slaves and Masters show (JLT singing Purple)
- A complete show from the '78-'81 era of Genesis, not the "live compilations" that are Seconds Out or 3SL.
- A full show from the Yes 90120 tour, preferably on video, with the lasers during "Hearts" (that they dropped after the first leg).
- A U2 Joshua Tree show (firt time, not the reboot from last year)
- A Whitesake "Slide It In" tour show
- Any Sabbath show after Sabbath Bloody Sabbath but before Ozzy quit/fired/fucked off.
- A Marillion show from the Season's End tour
- Anything from Ozzy with Randy Rhoads (though I'd take a Brad Gillis regular gig as well).
- Any of the five or so shows that Maiden did at the Rainbow in London with Bruce before Number came out
- One of the Temple Of The Dog shows from a year or so ago.
SPECIFIC shows I'd like:
- The Kiss show with no Paul (just a trio with Gene singing everything)
- The Marillion show at Toad's on the Holidays tour when Hogarth sang Freaks as an impromptu encore
- The Crimson show from New Haven in '93 when Belew did "Free As A Bird" by the Beatles as his solo spot before it was officially released
- The Page/Plant show at the Brendan Byrne arena - still the single greatest moment I've ever experienced at a show
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- A U2 Joshua Tree show (firt time, not the reboot from last year)
Oh, wow. Hadn't thought of that, but if they ever managed to dig up some old footage and release something, I'd buy it in a second. I saw them on that tour. They headlined a festival show in a stadium near me back in the day, and it was a MASSIVE show. Lots of special shenanigans. I wonder if it was any indication of what the rest of the tour was like.
- A U2 Joshua Tree show (firt time, not the reboot from last year)
- A Whitesake "Slide It In" tour show
Did they headline outside the U.S.? I saw them on that tour, but they were in an opening slot (or, more accurately, the second of a three band bill in between Kick Axe and Quiet Riot). I wish I could tell you what songs they played, but I didn't know the music very well at that time, so it didn't stick. I do remember the title song and Love Ain't No Stranger (Coverdale talked about their "new" video on MTV as he was introducing it). And I remember that Sykes was incredible. And I remember that they put on a REALLY good show overall.
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Pink Floyd - The Wall
Kate Bush - Before the Dawn (video, not just audio)
Dream Theater - The Astonishing
Also any tour that City Boy did....
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- A U2 Joshua Tree show (firt time, not the reboot from last year)
Oh, wow. Hadn't thought of that, but if they ever managed to dig up some old footage and release something, I'd buy it in a second. I saw them on that tour. They headlined a festival show in a stadium near me back in the day, and it was a MASSIVE show. Lots of special shenanigans. I wonder if it was any indication of what the rest of the tour was like.
I saw an early tour show - in Hartford, at our Civic Center - and it was an amazing show. I don't know how it would have translated to a stadium, but it was a really good blend of "arena rock" and "intimate experience". It was LOUD AND CLEAR that these guys were the real deal. Bono's voice was as crystal clear as a bell, and it was just a well-played, well-produced show. And I must say, as someone who went not as a fan (and sort of mocked Bono's stridency at times), I came out a fan and his... earnestness really translates live. I've seen them something like 7 or 8 times since, and what sounds pedantic or preachy in print or on film has an energy and passion live that really resonates.
I was third row, and he was probably 15 feet from me when holding the arc light and yelling "outside is America... outside is HARTFORD CONNECTICUT!" and getting chills. (Like I said, seems cheesy in print, but live it was anything but).
- A U2 Joshua Tree show (firt time, not the reboot from last year)
- A Whitesake "Slide It In" tour show
Did they headline outside the U.S.? I saw them on that tour, but they were in an opening slot (or, more accurately, the second of a three band bill in between Kick Axe and Quiet Riot). I wish I could tell you what songs they played, but I didn't know the music very well at that time, so it didn't stick. I do remember the title song and Love Ain't No Stranger (Coverdale talked about their "new" video on MTV as he was introducing it). And I remember that Sykes was incredible. And I remember that they put on a REALLY good show overall.
I honestly don't know; that's about the time I was seeing a lot of shows and would have gone to see them, but I can't really recall them coming to the East Coast in any real way. Though I don't know that I would have gone to see a Quiet Riot headline show. :)
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Def Leppard Pyromania Tour
https://www.amazon.com/Pyromania-Deluxe-Def-Leppard/dp/B0027WNRIG/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1519159022&sr=1-1&keywords=def+leppard+pyromania+deluxe+edition
"The smashes Photograph; Rock of Ages , and Foolin' join the rest of the 1983 Mutt Lange production and an unissued 15-song show at the LA Forum that year!"
I have this J Dude. It's excellent.
I was unaware of this, listening now. It's significantly improving my morning.
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- A Marillion show from the Season's End tour
This actually exists, it's called From Stoke Row to Ipanema. Not sure if it's available anymore, and I haven't watched the DVD for probably 15 years now, but I do believe there was an entire concert.
https://www.marillion.com/shop/dvd/stokerow.htm
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Page/Plant UnLedded tour.
There is a DVD of songs from that first go-round. It's not really a complete live show. Unless you're talking about the bigger tour they did in support of "Walking Into Clarksdale", in which case, I'm right there with you.
I did find a couple of pro-shot bootlegs on YouTube from the UnLedded tour. Never heard of an official release from that tour though.
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- A Whitesake "Slide It In" tour show
Did they headline outside the U.S.? I saw them on that tour, but they were in an opening slot (or, more accurately, the second of a three band bill in between Kick Axe and Quiet Riot). I wish I could tell you what songs they played, but I didn't know the music very well at that time, so it didn't stick. I do remember the title song and Love Ain't No Stranger (Coverdale talked about their "new" video on MTV as he was introducing it). And I remember that Sykes was incredible. And I remember that they put on a REALLY good show overall.
I honestly don't know; that's about the time I was seeing a lot of shows and would have gone to see them, but I can't really recall them coming to the East Coast in any real way. Though I don't know that I would have gone to see a Quiet Riot headline show. :)
Now? Probably not. But back then? And with Whitesnake and Kick Axe opening? Without hesitation. All three bands put on a great show. Kick Axe had the raw energy of a young band with good hard rock chops and songwriting trying to make it. Whitesnake had that Coverdale swagger. Quiet Riot, despite only being two albums in, had that veteran stature of a band who had been grinding away for a long time, and had finally broken through. They had grown a LOT from all those club years and on the Metal Health tour, and it showed by the time they were out headlining on the Condition Critical tour. They definitely brought it.
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Iced Earth - 2002 European Horror Show Tour (3 hour retrospective/themed show)
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Van Halen 1984 Tour
Along with the Somewhere In Time tour.
Queensryche - Promised Land tour
Judas Priest's Painkiller tour.
All of these (above). Plus of course, an official release from the Six Degrees tour and a live release combining their 2 shows in Melbourne, Australia in 2009 (which would give us most of the songs performed on the Black Clouds tour).
Also live releases from:
Depeche Mode's Violator tour
Extreme's Waiting for the Punchline tour (with MM on drums)
Riverside's ADHD tour
Seal's 1995 tour
Tesla's show in Milwaukee in June 1992 (last minute substitute for Poison - this show was amazing!)
compilation from Van Halen's shows in 1977
- A U2 Joshua Tree show (firt time, not the reboot from last year)
I know there's some great soundboard recordings (I believe properly mixed) out there in circulation that were rumored to have been for Rattle and Hum. That would probably pretty close to an official release.
- Anything from Ozzy with Randy Rhoads (though I'd take a Brad Gillis regular gig as well).
Like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Speak-Devil-Ozzy-Osbourne/dp/B0085KGGLY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519238676&sr=8-1&keywords=speak+of+the+devil+dvd
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In general, I would love to get some actual video recording of some broadway shows. Can't really easily go to a Broadway show, over here they translate musicals (sometimes terribly so), and I am not really interested in an overproduced film filled with actors that can't sing as well as the actual broadway singers. Exceptions are there and there are some good dvd's out there, but not nearly as much as there could be.
Furthermore, here are some smaller artists and tours I really would've loved to see on a dvd:
-Sonata Arctica on their Ecliptica Anniversary tour and their acoustic tour.
-Symphony X during their Oddysee years.
-The Gentle Storm, the shows with Arjen Lucassen playing with them.
Also, an ACDC with Axl Rose release, Rock or Bust tour, but from what I have heard there will actually be a live release? I really liked what I have heard from some bootleg snippets. And a new studio album.
Hand Cannot Erase desperately needed a live dvd
I agree. But at least we got a good pro shot Yahoo Live Nation show and parts of the performance at the Dutch North Sea Jazz festival (the latter broadcast had really good sound! Steven uploaded Vermillioncore of that set on his own channel(). It would be cool if he releases them both in full officially in some fashion in the future (as a bonus?).
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The Ozzy SOTD DVD blows. The footage is great but the piped in vocals makes it unwatchable.
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Queensryche's 1995 Road to the Promised Land Tour for absolutely sure. Such a bummer that they never used all that footage recorded by fans. For those that didn't know, tapers sections were set up on that tour so people could record. They were asked to send a copy of everything to the band. Most did, and nothing ever came of it. Really a shame.
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The Ozzy SOTD DVD blows. The footage is great but the piped in vocals makes it unwatchable.
I agree. I was excited when the official release came out but was very disappointed with it after I purchased it.