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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: SoundscapeMN on January 26, 2018, 10:48:51 PM
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I've wondered this for a few years, but really don't know what happened to the previous dredg thread(s). But they were deleted.
So, we need a new thread about them I think, especially considering there are many fans around here, and the fact the band just entered the studio today to write and record a new album.
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Drew Roulette (https://www.facebook.com/drew.roulette1?fref=ufi&rc=p) Day one of writing a new record.
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Many fans will probably find this exciting, but I'll go out of my way to express my disappointment that they just began the writing stage. I was hoping they were at least at the point where they had loads of material and could already record. But late is better than never.
Also, that photo would make a hilarious album cover. :lol
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Better late than never!! I guess Chuckles must've done more damage to them than I previously thought since it's taken them this long to make a comeback.
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I'll be honest, Chuckles pretty much killed off my interest in the band to the point where I barely revisit their good albums, but I might check out a new one if reviews are great.
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Chuckles seems to be one of the most misunderstood albums in the history of rock music.
The band made it kind of as an experiment to work with Dan the Automator.
Drew mentioned in more than 1 interview, if it wasn't exactly released as it should have been, it would not have been released under the dredg name, but under Dan the Automator's name or dredg w/ Dan the Automator, etc. As it was so different a process for them, it wasn't really like anything they've ever done before.
In other words, it was basically a 1-off side-project/collaboration.
Which is why I haven't and still don't follow why so many people have treated it and the band as being done.
It was just a 1-time experiment that really is not indicative of what they are overall as a band.
Why it's been so long since they have made new music? I get the sense that Pariah, while successful, probably didn't elevate them to another level of success, the band just felt they don't need to try and become huge. All the members have other things they do, so dredg didn't need to be a top priority necessarily anymore. But at the same time, they didn't break up. They just took a break and are or were going about things slower.
They have still done live shows here and there since Chuckles came out. Special anniversary shows.
And their whole catalog is out on Vinyl now (sans for the 1 live album "Live at the Fillmore").
But I for one anticipate something more along the lines of Pariah or Catch with this new album. For those who think it'll be like Chuckles, may be surprised.
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Chuckles seems to be one of the most misunderstood albums in the history of rock music.
The band made it kind of as an experiment to work with Dan the Automator.
Drew mentioned in more than 1 interview, if it wasn't exactly released as it should have been, it would not have been released under the dredg name, but under Dan the Automator's name or dredg w/ Dan the Automator, etc. As it was so different a process for them, it wasn't really like anything they've ever done before.
In other words, it was basically a 1-off side-project/collaboration.
But this is were the problem was for that release. A lot of people don't read the interviews. I surely didn't. When I got the album and listened to it, it was a massive turn off and disappointment. Chuckles for me IS THE MOST MASSIVE TURN OFF in my collection. My first thoughts were "Yo got to be shitting me!! From El Cielo, to Catch, to Pariah, to THIS? WTF". I thought Dredg sold out.
It should have been released as a non-Dredg related album..side project, collaboration, etc.
The Chuckles songs in a live setting sounded very good. Maybe if they would have released a live version of Chuckles, it would have been better received by the fans.
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Collab or not I just thought Chuckles was hugely disappointing. But I'm also suspecting to feel like maybe Dredg was just a phase band for me, because I listened to them a lot during my initial discovery phase and while I have gone back a few times to check out the older albums (that are still great), I still rarely get the urge to listen to them.
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It was just last week or so I randomly had the thought that Dredg really needed to start doing something again, so very good news indeed.
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If it's half as good as Pariah, I'll be happy. People single out El Cielo as being their best, but Pariah blows it out of the water.
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Chuckles seems to be one of the most misunderstood albums in the history of rock music.
The band made it kind of as an experiment to work with Dan the Automator.
Drew mentioned in more than 1 interview, if it wasn't exactly released as it should have been, it would not have been released under the dredg name, but under Dan the Automator's name or dredg w/ Dan the Automator, etc. As it was so different a process for them, it wasn't really like anything they've ever done before.
In other words, it was basically a 1-off side-project/collaboration.
Which is why I haven't and still don't follow why so many people have treated it and the band as being done.
It was just a 1-time experiment that really is not indicative of what they are overall as a band.
Why it's been so long since they have made new music? I get the sense that Pariah, while successful, probably didn't elevate them to another level of success, the band just felt they don't need to try and become huge. All the members have other things they do, so dredg didn't need to be a top priority necessarily anymore. But at the same time, they didn't break up. They just took a break and are or were going about things slower.
They have still done live shows here and there since Chuckles came out. Special anniversary shows.
And their whole catalog is out on Vinyl now (sans for the 1 live album "Live at the Fillmore").
But I for one anticipate something more along the lines of Pariah or Catch with this new album. For those who think it'll be like Chuckles, may be surprised.
This. There is a great podcast with Mark where he talks about how they wanted to call the allbum Dredg with Dan the Automator or something like that but the label wouldn't allow it.
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Chuckles seems to be one of the most misunderstood albums in the history of rock music.
The band made it kind of as an experiment to work with Dan the Automator.
Drew mentioned in more than 1 interview, if it wasn't exactly released as it should have been, it would not have been released under the dredg name, but under Dan the Automator's name or dredg w/ Dan the Automator, etc. As it was so different a process for them, it wasn't really like anything they've ever done before.
In other words, it was basically a 1-off side-project/collaboration.
But this is were the problem was for that release. A lot of people don't read the interviews. I surely didn't. When I got the album and listened to it, it was a massive turn off and disappointment. Chuckles for me IS THE MOST MASSIVE TURN OFF in my collection. My first thoughts were "Yo got to be shitting me!! From El Cielo, to Catch, to Pariah, to THIS? WTF". I thought Dredg sold out.
It should have been released as a non-Dredg related album..side project, collaboration, etc.
The Chuckles songs in a live setting sounded very good. Maybe if they would have released a live version of Chuckles, it would have been better received by the fans.
see, I guess from the 1st time I listened to it, I had the mentality that Chuckles was a different approach, per a different album. It came out so fast, and even before it was released, the fact they were working with Dan the Automator basically had my expectation for it to sound quite a bit different. More electronic, etc.
And I honestly never hated Chuckles. But I agree, many of the songs do sound better live.
That all being said, someone needs to ask Drew or any of the members about all the unreleased B-sides, which I would not expect to be on this new album. But hopefully sometime soon as well. Many if not all of them were played live and also recorded or at least Demo-ed for Pariah.
Bloodstains
Fucking Smile 2
Holding a Remedy Potion
It's Not Worth It
Push Away
Can We Start Over/Time Will Tell
The Warbler
Where I'll End Up
Wonderous Miracle
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Holding a remedy potion was a really great snippet, I would've loved to have heard the entire song
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I really hate chuckles. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. Everything up to that was awesome and they were building momentum as a band and then chuckles was like the iceberg in the night that sunk their ass.
I will listen to the new one and if its solid, then I am right back on board.
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I agree Chuckles was a huge disappointment. I don't care if it wasn't meant to be a straight up Dredg album. A lot of the songs were just terrible. It was the bad melodies that killed it for me. I wasn't turned off by the new approach.
Super excited for new music though!
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I think that was the saddest thing about Chuckles, it really seemed to kill their momentum.
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I've always thought their momentum was killed by the four-year gap between Catch without arms and Pariah. Not to mention that Pariah, although a very good album, didn't have the exact same commercial appeal. Chuckles was just the next step in the wrong direction, although I don't think it's a horrible release - it just lacks great songs.
Ranking the albums?
Catch without arms
Pariah (despite my comments, it actually used to be my number one for a while)
El Cielo
Chuckles
Leitmotif
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I've always thought their momentum was killed by the four-year gap between Catch without arms and Pariah. Not to mention that Pariah, although a very good album, didn't have the exact same commercial appeal. Chuckles was just the next step in the wrong direction, although I don't think it's a horrible release - it just lacks great songs.
Ranking the albums?
Catch without arms
Pariah (despite my comments, it actually used to be my number one for a while)
El Cielo
Chuckles
Leitmotif
I agree with you about the large gap between CWA and Pariah, but Interscope dropped them when CWA didn't blow up like they hoped.
I think the band were at a crossroads at that point, where they could have just made another record and try and find another label to release it, or work longer on the current record and release it on their own, which they did.
I think Pariah came out better than it may have, had they rushed it. But many songs didn't end up on it, or may have ended up differently had they released their 4th album say in 2007; (Information for example, was originally called "Waterborne").
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Great news! This is long overdue. :coolio
I think Pariah was loaded with catchy songs, so I think it had plenty of commercial appealed. It must not have been marketed well. I too think that record is slightly better than El Cielo. Catch Without Arms is also really good, but not as good as those other two.
At the time, I thought Chuckles wasn't as bad as everyone else was saying, but still not that good. Years later, it probably was as bad as everyone was saying. :lol It has a couple of songs I think are keepers, but the rest I have no use for.
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Tough to rank the albums but as it currently stands:
El Cielo
Catch Without Arms
Pariah
Leitmotif
Chuckles
If I could I’d insert Conscious EP above chuckles. The riffage is strong on there
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there's also the Coquette demo, which technically is not an official release, but has some of my favorites like Uplifting News Channel and On Again and Off Again along with some earlier arrangements of some of the songs from CWA.
Also Orph, which like Conscious, is an early EP that the band's sound drastically changed from. But for collectors, it's like the holy grail, physical copies are incredibly rare.
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Orph is good stuff although incredibly short. It’s be interesting to hear if they ever took a heavier approach for the new album.
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Let's hope the long break has inspired some good material for another dredg classic
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I can see Chuckles as the experiment/one-off that it is. I don't care for most of it, but that's ok. The only thing that pisses me off is "The Ornament"...they took something haunting, beautiful and suspenseful, and made it into a particularly bland pop song. Uggh.
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I can see Chuckles as the experiment/one-off that it is. I don't care for most of it, but that's ok. The only thing that pisses me off is "The Ornament"...they took something haunting, beautiful and suspenseful, and made it into a particularly bland pop song. Uggh.
Agree 100%. They turned it into elevator music. super lame
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The Chuckles version of The Ornament was pretty lame but I really enjoyed the Live at the Filmore version.
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I love The Ornament :(
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I love The Ornament :(
same here. I suppose the Live at the Fillmore version is still better, but I enjoyed the Chuckles version.
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Where I'll End Up is probably the only song I still listen to from Chuckles (that one sounds like it would have fit on any of their other records). I liked Down Without a Fight quite a bit when the album was first out, but it hasn't aged well. I still like the melodies, but the electronics are too overpowering.
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Down Without A Fight is good, Kalathat is probably my favorite song from Chuckles.
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I ran a dredg survivor years ago, I wonder if there would be an interest for a survivor this time around.
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Where I'll End Up is probably the only song I still listen to from Chuckles (that one sounds like it would have fit on any of their other records). I liked Down Without a Fight quite a bit when the album was first out, but it hasn't aged well. I still like the melodies, but the electronics are too overpowering.
The bridge to Where I’ll End Up is the standout moment on the album to me, but the rest of the song is a bit meh. Upon Returning and The Thought Of Losing You are the only songs that I think are legitimately awesome. The rest is decent to downright embarrassing.
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I ran a dredg survivor years ago, I wonder if there would be an interest for a survivor this time around.
I’d be interested, though I can already guess the winner (The Canyon Behind Her) and loser (The Tent).
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:lol You're probably right, I don't remember the results last time I did it.
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new interview with Gavin
https://twitter.com/RnRBeerGuy/status/976112624571105280
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Can't wait to take a listen
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Okay, it has been six months. Is there any word on the progress they are making with the new album they were supposedly working on? We dredg fans need news!
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not a lot yet since the members have been busy with their other projects recently.
The most recent thing I saw was an interview with Mark Engles on this podcast last month (https://soundcloud.com/pantsoffpodcast/pants-off-podcast-ep-120-mark-engles-black-map-dredg-steve-mazur-our-lady-peace) about his band Black Map and a little about dredg.
"it's in the embryonic stages..we won't take as long as Tool, but we're not putting an album out for a bit."
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I think when it's ready then it's ready. I'm just glad they dredg isn't all lost.
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That's kinda disappointing, but not surprising. I have to wonder how much of the old fan base will even be into a new album. After this long hiatus following a widely-panned album, I imagine a lot of fans jumped off the bandwagon and have moved on.
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If the new album is solid on the level of catch without arms or The Pariah, then I am 100% back on board. All past mistakes forgotten.
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I think that is the sentiment of a lot of the dredg community.
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As someone who liked Dredg up until Chuckles, which killed off my interest in the band almost completely (can barely revisit even their good albums anymore), I want to say I would check out a new album but I think honestly it comes down to early reviews. But I think even so it would take legit "this album is really good" comments from people who aren't fanboys and will say that no matter what, if the general consensus is just "this was good" I might not bother.
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Out of curiosity what about the last album drove you away from the earlier stuff. I didn't like Chuckles either and I never revisit it but I still enjoy the earlier work just as much.
Especially going into the history and chuckles and how they didn't want it to be a dredg album allows me to even further distance myself.
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if you look at their history, they've never made albums quick. Each record other than Chuckles they spent many years working on before the album was released.
I mean it was not that long ago, Pariah seemed to take for fucking ever to come out. There was hope it would be out in 2006, and then 2007.
June 9th, 2009.
so given they only started writing the album in March, 2019..even say Summer or Fall wouldn't be surprising.
Maybe they could release a single at some point, or more likely, play some of the new stuff live as they often have.
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Goddamn I hope they start touring at least. I would travel for a few shows easily
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As mediocre as Chuckles is, it does have a couple songs I still like. That stupid producer just killed the album with that awful sound. There are plenty of bits all over the place where you think it could have been a pretty good album had it retained the classic dredg sound and a little more work been done on the songs.
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Out of curiosity what about the last album drove you away from the earlier stuff. I didn't like Chuckles either and I never revisit it but I still enjoy the earlier work just as much.
Especially going into the history and chuckles and how they didn't want it to be a dredg album allows me to even further distance myself.
I don't think it's just Chuckles being a big disappointment that turned me away but more the timing of it all. For example had they come out with a new album 2 years after Chuckles maybe it would have been different but the disappointing album combined with going on an almost permanent break just made my interest slowly fade away over time. I have gone back to Pariah/CWA/El Cielo at least once in the last few months and I think they mostly hold up as albums though I've found Gavin's voice to become a bit more hit or miss with me since ~2009 or when Pariah came out, that time before Chuckles when I was most into the band.
It's kinda similar to Tool for me, when you go that long without putting out any music it just falls to the back of my mind as I discover new bands along the way.
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I remember thinking that Chuckles isn't as bad as everyone thought, but nowadays I never feel the need to play anything off that album. I usually return to the big three, which have always switched places as my favorite. At the moment, I'm confident Catch without arms was the best one.
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I think Chuckles is better than Leitmotif, which feels too much like a demo, but they both pale in comparison to their other 3. Upon Returning is a top 5 dredg song for me, and The Thought Of Losing You is great also. Where I'll End Up has one of my favorite bridge sections.
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I remember thinking that Chuckles isn't as bad as everyone thought, but nowadays I never feel the need to play anything off that album. I usually return to the big three, which have always switched places as my favorite. At the moment, I'm confident Catch without arms was the best one.
As much as I like Catch Without Arms, I just can't say it's as good as the other two, both of which I call, with no hesitation, truly great. CWA seems more like a collection of great songs, while El Cielo and The Pariah... are both a bit more than that. Plus, The Pariah is easily their best sounding album, IMO (it has more bottom end and sounds more refined without sounding too refined).
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I remember thinking that Chuckles isn't as bad as everyone thought, but nowadays I never feel the need to play anything off that album. I usually return to the big three, which have always switched places as my favorite. At the moment, I'm confident Catch without arms was the best one.
As much as I like Catch Without Arms, I just can't say it's as good as the other two, both of which I call, with no hesitation, truly great. CWA seems more like a collection of great songs, while El Cielo and The Pariah... are both a bit more than that. Plus, The Pariah is easily their best sounding album, IMO (it has more bottom end and sounds more refined without sounding too refined).
I agree with all of this. CWA has some great songs and no bad songs but it doesn't have the magic of El Cielo or Pariah. The later also has the best drumming imo, which makes me put it as the best Dredg album.
With regards to the new album, I'm hopeful but skeptical. Hope the time off and doing different stuff brings some new influences and twists but it's been a long time since their best efforts.
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Drew posted this the other day.
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Nice. looking forward to hearing new shit
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Yea I can't wait, except I'll probably be waiting for a while.
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Nice
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Drew made a comment on Facebook in September
" 2019 #6"
Also this Podcast:
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/creative-minds/e/57130687?autoplay=true
Chad: Speaking of Gavin ... if the internet world is correct, you guys are working on more stuff?
Drew: Yeah, we have been. We've been writing a lot like in the last six months. We probably get together once a week, twice a week if we can. We've got about maybe ten new songs?
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Apparently I'm the only one here who likes Chuckles.
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I find Chuckles to be dredg's worst album, but still has several enjoyable tunes.
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I find Chuckles to be dredg's worst album, but still has several enjoyable tunes.
I think this is now my take on the album. I really was disappointed when it first came out but my expectations were so high. Over the years and more listens there are a few good tunes on there.
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I hate Chuckles but in retrospect it's a stain on an otherwise great discography. They kinda fell in that trap where they were putting out excellent albums every 4-5 years and then as soon as they kinda rushed to put out one 2 years after TPTPTD you could tell not as much craft had been put into it. I think few artists/bands are able to put out albums just 2 years after the last one. I mean it happens, but I think at least with Dredg it's that extra time that made the other albums so great. It's more to it than just albums with good songs but an attention to small details that makes them hold up well.
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You also have realize that chuckles was never supposed to be a pure dredg album, it was a collaboration album and the recording style was very different from all previous albums. To your point you can clearly tell that the process was very different on that album.
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and the band themselves has said numerous times they would not have released it under the dredg name had they had a choice.
It's really a "Dan the Automator with dredg" album.
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Can anyone explain to me what was different in the process of making Chuckles in comparison to, say, The Pariah?
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I might be mis-remembering some things but in a recent podcast Mark said that typically they get together and jam until they have a a good number of songs and work from there. With chuckles the writing was done apart from each other and band members would work with dan separately. They would submit parts and ideas to him and he would piece it together.
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Chuckles is not awful, but it's not that good either. It has a few songs I still like, and the songs they played live were cool, but it's just such a drop-off when you consider that this is the same band that gave us El Cielo and The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion, both of which are tremendous.
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El Cielo pillow
https://dredg.merchnow.com/products/281881
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https://twitter.com/dredg/status/1072186420393988096
Listeners,
Things to come in 2019...
1. dredg box set/scrap book release
2. dredg yard sale
3. dredg records a new record
4. dredg tours all of your favorite cities
Until then, we released some new merchandise - https://dredg.merchnow.com
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Click now to get your Chucky underoos or your Mr. Squeezy cargo pants!!
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I can't wait to hear this new album. I'm interested in the box set as well.
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I would love a Boxed Set that includes many of the unreleased recordings from Pariah especially. Time Will Tell, Wondrous Miracle, etc.
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Anybody have an extra copy of Dredg's Catch Without Arms vinyl signed that may be willing to trade or sell?
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Nope sorry :(
If you're looking for the vinyl it's still for sale online for around $20.
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bump.
new interview/podcast with Gavin
"New Album Will Be More “Rock-Oriented”
"Gavin also said the band hopes to record the album this summer, but no studio time has been booked yet."
http://www.metalsucks.net/2019/03/26/dredgs-gavin-hayes-new-album-will-be-more-rock-oriented/
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It would be fantastic if the album dropped this year. At the moment it doesn't seem like it will be a particularly strong year musically, so we need as many bands as possible to save it. ;D
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I really can't wait to hear this new album whenever it does come out.
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I am definitely looking forward to it.
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Always ready for more dredg. Can't believe it's been 8 years since Chuckles.
Also does Mourning This Morning remind anyone else of Lullaby by The Cure?
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:) :lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dredg
(https://i.imgur.com/RZDpxPC.jpg)
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It got removed already. :lol
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I would doubt it but then again they did release an album called chuckles and mr squeezy
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When I first saw that, I legit thought it was real :lol
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Drew Roulette's Instagram has a little clip indicating they're recording.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/drewroulette/
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This was just posted to 1 of the FB groups.
You can read Drew's frustration and it sounds like releasing a new album has become out of their control for few different reasons.
"It's not so easy with us. Basically I have good news: We have written about 20 new songs and have been rehearsing for over a year. We have over 100 hours of unpublished music, all still in demo form, but we have already talked to producers and studios to make it more concrete. " The problem is and remains: life. Private matters that do not allow any discussion, and those are currently chasing a stick into the spokes of a wheel that is currently running smoothly again. "We just can't go on at the moment, we have to be patient," says Roulette. "But the good thing is: we're burning! A new Dredg record, a new tour, all of this will come as soon as possible. The waiting is almost killing us internally. But isn't that also nice? We exactly know again, what we want. It willi be a rock record, surely with a few synths, but essentially what we love about this band - what Dredg stands for. "
Translated from the actual interview with Drew Roulette in the German "visions magazine".
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We have over 100 hours of unpublished music, all still in demo form
this has to be a typo right? or a mistranslation? that seems ridiculous to me
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it might be 100 hours of studio tapes/jams. I mean if they started writing together in 2018, 2 years off and on, 100 hours doesn't seem so much.
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https://www.last.fm/music/dredg/+events
Download Festival and a Gig in Ohio in May.
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Holy fuck yes glad to see some tour dates
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Holy fuck yes glad to see some tour dates
false alarm.
DREGG
https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/download-festival-expands-2020-lineup/
Download Festival 2020 Full Lineup
Dead Letter Circus
Hellions
Orpheus Omega
Joining…
My Chemical Romance (Only Aus Shows)
Deftones
Jimmy Eat World
Clutch (Only Aus Shows)
Ministry
In Flames
Testament
Alestorm (Only Aus Shows)
Carcass
Lacuna Coil (Only Aus Shows)
Hands Like Houses
In Hearts Wake
The HU
Baroness
Ne Obliviscaris
Bodyjar
New Years Day
Clowns
Venom Prison
SKYND
Thornhill
Disentomb
Stand Atlantic
Plini
RedHook
Dregg
Download Festival 2020
https://sonictemplefestival.com/about/
Metallica, Slipknot, Deftones, Bring Me The Horizon, Evanescence, Staind, Sublime With Rome, Rancid, Dropkick Murphys, Cypress Hill, Pennywise, Royal Blood, The Pretty Reckless, Alter Bridge, Anthrax, Flatbush Zombies, Pop Evil, Hellyeah, Ghostemane, Suicidal Tendencies, Testament, Dance Gavin Dance, Ice Nine Kills, Sleeping With Sirens, The Darkness, ??? ??, Knocked Loose, Code Orange, Power Trip, Saint Asonia, Dirty Honey, Jinjer, City Morgue, Bones UK, Airbourne, Fire From The Gods, Dinosaur Pile-Up, Des Rocs, Counterfeit., Crobot, Cherry Bomb, DED, Goodbye June, Brutus, 3Teeth, Brkn Love, Killstation, Brass Against, Crown Lands, Ego Kill Talent, Dregg, Bloodywood, Zero 9:36 and more.
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You gotta be fucking kidding me :(
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If anyone follows Drew in instagram he posted what sounded like new dredg stuff on his story. Check it out while it's still up.
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I don't have IG, so I'll have to use my imagination, but I am definitely up so some new music from them.
Been listening heavily to Catch without arms and Leitmotif a lot lately
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It was basically a clip of his phone playing a new track, hard to tell but it definitely seems like a return to the Catch With Arms sound
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I was able to listen to what Drew posted yesterday and I agree that it sounds like they are going back to their older sound. It will be interesting to see what these guys went for after all this time.
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bump.
just preordered
https://dredg.merchnow.com/products/v2/314915/live-at-the-fillmore--signed-litho
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Awesome. Order placed. Now if I can get the elusive Leitmotif vinyl my dredg collection will be complete.
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bump.
The Live at the Fillmore Vinyl finally should be coming soon in the mail.
https://twitter.com/dredg/status/1357376657560985602
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtZe39zUYAcNHIq?format=jpg&name=small)
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Sweet! Can't wait to get mine, my dredg vinyl collection will be complete.
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Drew was on thefive10 podcast:
https://thefive10.com/2021/05/12/dredg-on-thefive10-podcast/
Sounds promising that they are returning to their older sound. Can't wait to hear the new record when it does hit.
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thanks. Yeah the older sound, and some of the old demos may finally see the light of day (there's many that I would love to finally hear recorded for albums; Time Will Tell, Holding a Remedy Potion, Wonderous Miracle, etc).
Also this Archival project sounds intriguing, with some different forms of media even; VHS, lol.
when that and new music comes?..who knows still. Maybe 2022. It sounds like they have a lot of music they have worked on and even more they may work on. Some 60 tunes even potentially between old and new jams.
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It feels weird that Chuckles was a decade ago. That album at the time kinda killed my interest in the band and I've struggled with even revisiting the older albums in the last few years, but returning to the older sound is a smart idea. Must be weird for them to get back on the horse after so long though.
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It feels weird that Chuckles was a decade ago. That album at the time kinda killed my interest in the band and I've struggled with even revisiting the older albums in the last few years, but returning to the older sound is a smart idea. Must be weird for them to get back on the horse after so long though.
I can't think of another album that seemed to completely kill a band like Chuckles did for Dredg. I appreciate they were trying to do something different, but man was it a dud. I still listen to the older stuff from time to time.
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It feels weird that Chuckles was a decade ago. That album at the time kinda killed my interest in the band and I've struggled with even revisiting the older albums in the last few years, but returning to the older sound is a smart idea. Must be weird for them to get back on the horse after so long though.
I can't think of another album that seemed to completely kill a band like Chuckles did for Dredg. I appreciate they were trying to do something different, but man was it a dud. I still listen to the older stuff from time to time.
I was just completely confused by Chuckles. I thought it was a joke album at first and the "real" one would come soon after, but obviously it never did. Coming off such a masterpiece like Pariah I could not believe that the band went so far off their own path. I still remember seeing them open for Coheed & Cambria in 2005 and the drummer played the piano part at the end of Bug Eyes while simultaneously playing drums...that was one of the coolest "show-off" things I've seen.
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Haven't these guys supposedly been working on a new album for like 3-4 years now? :lol :lol
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I bought El Cielo and Catch Without Arms a few years back from a used bin in the record store after hearing the band name come up over and over on here. Only got around to listening to El Cielo in the last two months or so, but man, I really dig that album. I'll give them other one a go when I have time.
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Haven't these guys supposedly been working on a new album for like 3-4 years now? :lol :lol
To be fair, Tool were "working" on a new album for like 12 years so dredg are almost there. :lol
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Haven't these guys supposedly been working on a new album for like 3-4 years now? :lol :lol
To be fair, Tool were "working" on a new album for like 12 years so dredg are almost there. :lol
Plus they have other projects and day jobs so I'm sure its hard to coordinate.
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Time Will Tell
they put this up on Instagram today..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPOBPojJHlk/
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CQoY4ldpzwa/
tracking 易 song
#leitmotifthefilm
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I'm so happy they've started posting more stuff on instagram. It's really cool to see all the behind the scenes footage for their albums.
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bump! dredg is re-releasing a vinyl bundle for their 20th anniversary for Leitmotif. You can order here: https://dredg.merchnow.com/
I ordered the shirt and vinyl bundle, expected ship date is 7/29/22. A long wait :lol
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So, no new album? :yeahright
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I guess a 10th anniversary remaster of Chuckles is more likely at this point.
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So, no new album? :yeahright
Nothing I've seen or heard. From Instagram it seems that Drew has been primarily working on the dredg vault, which seems to be a collection of behind the scenes stuff from all their previous albums.
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At the time, I knew Chuckles was a whack album, but if you would have told me it would totally derail the band for 10+ years and counting I wouldn't have believed you.
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So, no new album? :yeahright
Nothing I've seen or heard. From Instagram it seems that Drew has been primarily working on the dredg vault, which seems to be a collection of behind the scenes stuff from all their previous albums.
yeah the last thing I recall was Drew being interviewed about an Archival project of books and/or film that would come out.
They did write and record some music though a few years ago, but life got in the way including but not exclusively due to COVID.
I think their active presence on Social Media this year is encouraging that new music still could be coming soon.
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bump! dredg is re-releasing a vinyl bundle for their 20th anniversary for Leitmotif. You can order here: https://dredg.merchnow.com/
I ordered the shirt and vinyl bundle, expected ship date is 7/29/22. A long wait :lol
Looks cool! I wish the penguin was on the front of the shirt though.
And that is a long wait, definitely not in time for the holidays that's for sure :lol
I have the El Cielo vinyl, and it is awesome.
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I finished my vinyl collection last year so I'll have to pick this up to keep it current.
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Gavin talks about on this new podcast, they have have music for 2 albums or more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-9g4IoF44w
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Are we actually ever gonna hear that music though?
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I haven't listened to the podcast yet but that's the thing that is frustrating, I'd like to hear this music in whatever way they choose to release. I know their circumstances are different than say Tool, they have day jobs and other things that they are working on. I just really hope to hear more new music.
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Personally, I feel like they ought to shut their mouths until something is finished and ready to be released. How many times are they gonna tease fans? "We have two albums worth of material." Congrats. When we will actually hear it?
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"I think the goal is to have something out next year. I know we keep saying that, but it's just… we want to do it right and we're taking our time, and we're at the age and the point of our career where the pressure to release it right away outside of us wanting to get it done, and I'm sure our fans want to hear it, but we want to do it properly."
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See, that is what I mean. How many times are they going to throw a "we have new music, and hope to release soon"-type comment out there, which only gets fans hopes again before pulling the rug out again.
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I guess I don't look at it that way.
I'd rather them say anything, even without any new music, than go completely quiet until lliterally they upload a song, share the title, tracklist, artwork and release date. But if it bothers people so much, than they don't have to follow their activity and interviews.
I mean dredg is hardly the 1st band to talk about a new album for many years, and it doesn't actually get released until many years later (Guns N Roses, Tool, Kaddisfly, Chic, Jon Anderson-1000 Hands; Pepe Deluxe and Sculptured in 2021 and Tears for Fears in 2022,come to mind just off of the top of my head). Something like Peter Gabriel's I/O I suppose is 1 example of it never happening, but at least in that case, there was at least 1 or more interviews where he said it wouldn't happen due to he couldn't sing the music he wrote anymore.
I'm of the hope and belief new music will come out, it's just how and when. I would rather them take their time and release nothing for many years, than rush something out for the sake of just getting something out there. Which if they did, may end up just being rough recordings that are in-effect unfinished demos.
I mean if the band isn't happy with representing their songs like that, why would they?
I would imagine to actually put something out they are happy with, it could take a lot of time. But for some, there's not enough patience for that, lol.
anyway
Leitmotif documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srjommzDums
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My interest was really pique when Gavin said the music was slightly heavier. I'm a pretty big fan of Black Map so I'm interested if Mark is going to bring more of those songs onto the new record.
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I don't mind them taking their time, considering the disaster Chuckles & Mr Squeezy was, I'd rather wait and get an album on par with the albums before than get something rushed that will be forgotten after a few weeks. But I also kinda agree with Kev, I don't think there's any upside to the constant teasing of "trust us, we have new material" because at some point it becomes the boy who cried wolf story. I'll believe it when I see it.
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bump.
anyone else order the Leitmotif Anniversary Vinyl? if so, your copy should be coming soon per mine and many others came in the mail the last couple of days.
Slick
https://dredg.merchnow.com/products/v2/335715/leitmotif-20th-anniversary-green
also, for those who didn't know, Pariah finally got put up on Spotify a couple of weeks ago.
https://open.spotify.com/album/5RcdqCQ9PFrBlFfyrLTFXs
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Got my vinyl and shirt yesterday but haven't had a chance to spin it. I'll have to take a pic of all the vinyls together sometime soon.
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https://dredgstore.com/
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Got a reminder all set up. I have the first pressing of this so I'm looking forward to the re-release.
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I got really into El Cielo over the last two years and can safely say it's rocketed its way up into one of my favorite albums pretty quickly.
I managed to get the other four albums since then but... haven't listened to anything else yet. :lol
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They're really milking their legacy albums at this point. If I didn't already have El Cielo on vinyl I might have gotten this but isn't it time for them to do something new soon? It feels almost like a Guns n Roses situation at this point clinging onto things from 20 years ago.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to raise studio funds.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to raise studio funds.
Yeah could be. Even after the terrible Chuckles, I'm still curious for new music because they're still 4 out of 5 for me in terms of good albums. I think also the combination of the last album being a big disappointment combined with the long wait time has created this unique situation where expectations are low yet the band has it in them to make magic, so it's like a perfect storm for them to come back and make something special again. Or it ends up just an okay album - which could happen also, but it does feel like there's potential for another strong album from them. They probably have a lot of songs and if they focus on the best ones and craft a well flowing album with those then it should be a hit. The band probably also wants some redemption after how Chuckles was received to go out and make another fantastic album and turn the buzz about the band around to something more positive. :)
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I hated Chuckles too but I do give them a slight pass after recent interviews. Apparently the album was never supposed to be a true dredg album and instead was supposed to be a collaboration and billed as such. The issue was the record label would not allow them to call it a dedg + dan the automator album and instead had to be called a dredg album. Whatever happened I still have high hopes for the next album. The new album snippets I've heard are really impressive and sound like Catch Without Arms dredg.
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they have a lot of older material that was recorded that didn't make it onto Pariah, although I suppose there's reason to believe they wouldn't want to release that stuff given it's not representative of what they are now, or music they want to make now.
Which might suggest they could release 2 albums at some point, 1 that is all new, and 1 that is the stuff from the Pariah period.
And yes, that is the common lack of knowledge about Chuckles. It was a collaboration with Dan the Automator and the band didn't intend to release it under just their own name.
That being said, I still feel Chuckles isn't a bad album, it's just not as good as their others.
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Even if we don't count Chuckles as a proper Dredg album that almost makes things worse in the sense that Pariah was in 2009 and that's a loooooong time ago. I don't know the inside workings of the band as well as you guys do but when you look at their career you have an album every 2-3 years that are fairly well regarded, then you end at Chuckles which despite some defenders is generally not that liked (even people who do like it seem to admit it's the weakest) and then after you get 11 years of nothing. I've joked before that many bands have the occasional bad album but it's rare for that bad album to kill the career entirely but that's a bit how it feels like in this case.
Either way I still hope the band comes back with good music. For me Chuckles really lacked the prog rock/art rock side of their sound and if there's anything I hope for with new material it would be the return of that. I just hope we finally get it and that we don't go 3 years without any news and then "Hey guys it's time for CWA 20 year anniversary vinyl". :lol
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It is odd how Chuckles basically killed the band. One poorly received album usually seems to motivate a band to get back I to the studio to release something new. I'd love to hear the story of what happened. Were they just so dejected that they didn't have it in them to create something new? Did their label shut them down? Really kind of a bizarre situation for a moderately popular band that seemed to have some momentum going.
I've always said that Chuckles wasn't bad because of the different style due to the collaboration with Dan the Automator. It was bad because the songs weren't very good and didn't draw me in. I appreciate bands experimenting and trying something new. It was like those songs just lost the magic of what Dredg was.
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It is odd how Chuckles basically killed the band. One poorly received album usually seems to motivate a band to get back I to the studio to release something new. I'd love to hear the story of what happened. Were they just so dejected that they didn't have it in them to create something new? Did their label shut them down? Really kind of a bizarre situation for a moderately popular band that seemed to have some momentum going.
I've always said that Chuckles wasn't bad because of the different style due to the collaboration with Dan the Automator. It was bad because the songs weren't very good and didn't draw me in. I appreciate bands experimenting and trying something new. It was like those songs just lost the magic of what Dredg was.
Agreed on both points. Would definitely be curious to learn more about why or how Chuckles killed the band. But also I do agree about the sound because Chuckles is basically Dredg without the prog and going more towards the alt rock/pop style and that's kinda what CWA was and CWA is A LOT better than Chuckles, and there's not really much prog in there.
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I don't think they were a band that works fast to begin with. It took them four years after Catch without arms to release a follow up. That also kind of killed the momentum.
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no they don't. Why per when Chuckles was released just 2 years after Pariah, many fans wondered why it came out so soon.
I mean part of it I think had to do with labels.
Much of the Coquette demo could have easily been what came out on Catch Without Arms, but the label got involved.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRMCxr2ovA
https://www.theprp.com/2022/10/05/news/dredg-comment-on-new-album-reveal-more-details-for-upcoming-el-cielo-20th-anniversary-set/?fbclid=IwAR3bCp1UYG5nnL646fXVGuACtlxLEA-AspqAiVOEYobMgdjwIEem11etLI0
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck83mhLvFDv/
VAULT announcement this Friday.
Continue listening…
#dredgvault
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I'm pretty pumped to finally see what this is, that recent interview with Mark hinted at some unreleased track in there. Hopefully it's net new unreleased stuff and not stuff leaked out over the past years. Also I'm curious if my tattoo photo will make it in :lol
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https://www.instagram.com/p/ClHMBLPPvPt/
"All Proceeds go towards funding the new dredg album, LP#6"
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dredg VAULT - a bold, very limited collection of previously unreleased and recently sourced works of art, music, video and relics spanning 28 years time.
The centerpiece is a 340 page hardcover book (10" x 13") signed, numbered and personalized, encapsulating the entire career of the band, from childhood to today.
Other articles and relics include re-releases of early music, unreleased documentary studio footage, conceptual letters, maps, lyric books, as well as never released music.
Each vault is delivered in a custom artwork printed box personalizing the experience from the moment it arrives.
All proceeds go towards funding the new dredg album, LP #6.
- each VAULT will come with a unique symbol pin (pictured here)
- For the next 15 days we will release images of the contents included in the VAULT.
- AVAILABLE Dec. 1
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Im so pumped for this, can't wait to pick it up. Did you buy the El Cielo reissue Soundscape?
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yeah I did. Probably expect to receive it next Summer, but so be it.
Yeah, super excited of course. I know they've spent a ton of time on this thing, so it hopefully will show in the final result.
Did you catch that podcast with Mark? he talks a little about the new stuff.
It's weird, I guess Gavin is a couple of years older than the other guys. I always assumed they were all the same age, in the same class in HS. I guess not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlIHBzQVwY
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Not surprised on the ship date of the El Cielo record, I pretty much forgot I order the leitmotif one a few years back until I got an email it shipped. :lol
I heard the podcast and the Gavin thing did surprise me, I could've sworn on a podcast Gavin was on he said the same thing about being in the same class.
I'm curious what the price will be of the vault but truthfully I'll probably end up buying it regardless.
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they're of course posting stuff about it, including ORPH today. That thing is a GRAIL to some that have hunted for it for ages.
The potential dicey news though, a guy on FB said he asked Dino about what the price is likely to be, and he said $250-$300, LOL.
I can't see not buying it, but...I have a friend who may be able to help me out per I bought 2 copies of the new Toy Matinee blue vinyl, and he wants 1. I love Kevin Gilbert so much, I've gotten into the habit of buying 2 copies of almost everything I can. So, that may cushion my bank account a bit to afford whatever the price tag is going to be (+ shipping of course).
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It is odd how Chuckles basically killed the band. One poorly received album usually seems to motivate a band to get back I to the studio to release something new. I'd love to hear the story of what happened. Were they just so dejected that they didn't have it in them to create something new? Did their label shut them down? Really kind of a bizarre situation for a moderately popular band that seemed to have some momentum going.
I've always said that Chuckles wasn't bad because of the different style due to the collaboration with Dan the Automator. It was bad because the songs weren't very good and didn't draw me in. I appreciate bands experimenting and trying something new. It was like those songs just lost the magic of what Dredg was.
I'm not sure Chuckles killed the band. I can't source it, but I remember reading (somewhere) that they were basically done anyway. They'd been dropped from Interscope before TPTPTD, and then their new record label afterwards, and Chuckles was a last-ditch attempt to see if they could sell out. The thinking was that they weren't going to be able to support themselves solely on making the albums they wanted to make, so they would try again and mainstream success. It didn't work, and they went back to dredg being a passion project.
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they're of course posting stuff about it, including ORPH today. That thing is a GRAIL to some that have hunted for it for ages.
The potential dicey news though, a guy on FB said he asked Dino about what the price is likely to be, and he said $250-$300, LOL.
I can't see not buying it, but...I have a friend who may be able to help me out per I bought 2 copies of the new Toy Matinee blue vinyl, and he wants 1. I love Kevin Gilbert so much, I've gotten into the habit of buying 2 copies of almost everything I can. So, that may cushion my bank account a bit to afford whatever the price tag is going to be (+ shipping of course).
Steep but I paid more for the leitmotif pressing so I'm going to get this. I wonder if they'll include the Conscious demos.
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Man, I so very much want a new Dredg album and am still SO over getting there. Seemingly years now of semi-announcements, re-releases, and bullshit with no tangible progress. I will buy any album (or likely special edition version) of something if it eventually comes out, but who knows if we'll see it in my lifetime. Maybe I'll get a new Shadow Gallery CD in the meantime.
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Man, I so very much want a new Dredg album and am still SO over getting there. Seemingly years now of semi-announcements, re-releases, and bullshit with no tangible progress. I will buy any album (or likely special edition version) of something if it eventually comes out, but who knows if we'll see it in my lifetime. Maybe I'll get a new Shadow Gallery CD in the meantime.
Dude. That is like getting tired of waiting for a date with Aubrey Plaza and settling for a date with Rosie O'Donnell. :P
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Their earlier material was more overtly inspired by Tool, and it turns out this one is inspired by Tool's time gaps between albums.
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I've said it before but I feel the same about a new Dredg album. Yeah this Vault thing of releasing old crap will be great for the really hardcore fans and the countless re-releases of El Cielo and CWA will also please people who don't already own those on vinyl but Chuckles is now 11 years ago and if you really wanna go with the 'It was more of a collab and not really a Dredg album proper' argument then TPTPTD was 13 years ago which is even further away. So almost 14 years since these guys last released a proper good album and we're still milking old re-releases.
Again, cool for those who will buy this stuff, if this was Oceansize or Cardiacs doing similar things I would buy it all but in this particular case I don't feel this stuff is for me. They just don't seem very eager or interested in making something new out of their career. I did see 'money from this will go towards recording new music' but who knows? I'm surprised they haven't been able to push out a few EPs or something in the last 5-6 years.
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https://dredgvault.com/
limited to 1000.
got mine.
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same here, did you buy any of the special editions?
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no..part of me might have, but the increase in price isn't justified for me.
if I had the $, sure, I might have wanted the relics, or actually a ZOOM call might mean the most to me.
I also passed on the N.R.G. vinyl for $250 that Kevin Gilbert's estate is selling today...too high for me. I would best use that $ to see Peter Gabriel or something else. But I know some people will be spending that amount of $ for a vinyl record or in this case, Some lyric sheets or props from a video (Walter from the Same Ol Road video, lol).
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Bought a vault, for my wife mainly. She's a huge fan. I introduced her to them, and ironically, I'm not as into them as I once was. But she still is.
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Shit, still debating whether I should get it or not. It's one of those things where I would probably look at it once and then just put it in the bookshelf.
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no..part of me might have, but the increase in price isn't justified for me.
if I had the $, sure, I might have wanted the relics, or actually a ZOOM call might mean the most to me.
I also passed on the N.R.G. vinyl for $250 that Kevin Gilbert's estate is selling today...too high for me. I would best use that $ to see Peter Gabriel or something else. But I know some people will be spending that amount of $ for a vinyl record or in this case, Some lyric sheets or props from a video (Walter from the Same Ol Road video, lol).
The zoom call was the one I wanted to do but with all the kittens we are fostering and the holidays I just couldn't part with the cash.
Shit, still debating whether I should get it or not. It's one of those things where I would probably look at it once and then just put it in the bookshelf.
I feel like I'm not going to touch it that often but it's nice to round-out the dredg vinyls I have.
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5 to 8 business days...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClmdbutL_m4/
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Nice, the last vinyl I ordered (Leitmotif re-issue) was over a year :lol, the El Cielo reissue will be at least half a year too.
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5 to 8 business days...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClmdbutL_m4/
Ok, now this vid seals the deal. I'm getting it! The book looks awesome and of high quality.
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got my Vault this morning from UPS.
I may make an Unboxing video to show it, lol.
The Package itself is worth keeping.
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Awesome! I'm hoping mine comes in soon. Did you get the golden pin?
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Does Mourning This Morning remind anyone else of The Cure's Lullaby? It just hit me that MTM seems like it used this song as an inspiration
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Is it the similarity of the muted guitar with the pizzicato strings like at 0:48 on "Lullaby"? That's what leaps out to me on the surface. Overall "Mourning This Morning" just seems like dredg's take on a classic 70s soul style. "Lullaby" is much more rooted in 80s aesthetics.
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I'm unsure as I'm unsure if I've heard that song by The Cure. Mourning This Mourning and Gathering Pebbles have always had that 80's pop ballad kind of sheen to them, so i suppose it's not surprising.
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I can't really hear much 80s to speak of in "Gathering Pebbles". Guitars that detuned were extremely uncommon then, the timbre is too precise, the drum production much too crisp, the snare is tuned too high, electronics too modern-sounding, etc. But you might be latching onto something different about it.
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Does Mourning This Morning remind anyone else of The Cure's Lullaby? It just hit me that MTM seems like it used this song as an inspiration
I haven't heard Lullaby until today, first take I didn't think there was much similarity but after a few more listens I can definitely see it.
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One dredg song I always felt had a The Cure vibe is Scissor Lock from El Cielo...
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https://www.instagram.com/stories/dredgtheband/3128880579826034560/
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=808121237342773&set=pb.100044347123252.-2207520000.
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Just getting annoyed by all this at this point. Someone please let me know when there is actual solid new music to be excited about.
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Yea I've kind of just checked out at this point. I'll circle back when there is actual new music.
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By the time they actually get around to releasing new music even the people who would have cared are along gone. I know they have day jobs but when you release an album that disappoints most fans the way Chuckles did, you really just gotta move on and forget about it. Release another album, make the conversation about something else than how disappointing the last one was. Instead it feels like they're overly afraid of similar backlash so they're polishing whatever new music they have into oblivion because they are petrified the fans wont like it. Just have some belief.
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Bay Area (south) CA -
- We are in search of a new rehearsal space to finish writing our new record. Please reach out to us if you know of a place we can rent for the next 4-6 months.
Practice space, unused workshop, warehouse, guest house, unit.... anything.
Thanks,
dredg
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I can't wait for this to finally come out in 2034.
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Christ, this album is never going to be finished :lol
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I can't wait for this to finally come out in 2034.
Yup. As I've said before, I will be front of the line to purchase something new when something new actually exists.
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the complete El Cielo show from The Catalyst from 9/15/06 has been remastered.
A show I flew out of town to see. Highly Memorable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT_J82GBEMk
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That's awesome, I have a bootleg DVD of this show but I'm going to watch this remaster on my flight tomorrow