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Title: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Drinktheater on November 04, 2017, 01:49:25 PM
Was it a carvin? or is he already using an Ibanez USRG that time for the recording
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on November 04, 2017, 02:23:57 PM
I found this: (https://cfs8.tistory.com/image/36/tistory/2008/09/17/23/33/48d11554a1204)

Can anyone identify anything from it?
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on November 04, 2017, 02:29:27 PM
Better look at the same guitar here: https://youtu.be/j98h3s9qcIg?t=1m17s
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Drinktheater on November 04, 2017, 03:31:53 PM
Better look at the same guitar here: https://youtu.be/j98h3s9qcIg?t=1m17s

I should have just ask John when I met him in Manila last September lol Why I only thought about this now!

The Shape of the Headstock is definitely not an Ibanez or Jackson. But I have no idea what it is.

Awesome find BTW.

Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on November 04, 2017, 03:49:12 PM
Better look at the same guitar here: https://youtu.be/j98h3s9qcIg?t=1m17s

I should have just ask John when I met him in Manila last September lol Why I only thought about this now!

The Shape of the Headstock is definitely not an Ibanez or Jackson. But I have no idea what it is.

Awesome find BTW.



If you look later in the live footage of that documentary, the logo on the headstock looks very similar to:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Bc_rich_logo.png)
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Drinktheater on November 04, 2017, 04:02:30 PM
Better look at the same guitar here: https://youtu.be/j98h3s9qcIg?t=1m17s

I should have just ask John when I met him in Manila last September lol Why I only thought about this now!

The Shape of the Headstock is definitely not an Ibanez or Jackson. But I have no idea what it is.

Awesome find BTW.



If you look later in the live footage of that documentary, the logo on the headstock looks very similar to:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Bc_rich_logo.png)

Good eye bro!

And so it is I googled John Petrucci B.C Rich and I found this article its an interview.

JP did use the B.C. Rich for WDADU!

https://musicplayers.com/features/guitars/2007/0607_John_Petrucci.php
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on November 05, 2017, 06:18:43 PM
And so it is I googled John Petrucci B.C Rich and I found this article its an interview.

JP did use the B.C. Rich for WDADU!

https://musicplayers.com/features/guitars/2007/0607_John_Petrucci.php

That was a great interview! Even though it's from 10 years ago and a lot of things have changed since then, it was still very cool to read it.

About the guitars he's used over the years it's something like this:

- B.C. Rich = WDADU
- Ibanez = IAW, AWK, FII & SFAM
- Music Man = everything else
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: ReaperKK on November 05, 2017, 06:50:29 PM
Wasn't he already prototyping the EBMM during SFAM or was that during the tour that he started using EBMM?
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on November 05, 2017, 07:29:55 PM
Wasn't he already prototyping the EBMM during SFAM or was that during the tour that he started using EBMM?

I think it was during the tour, because at 2010 they released their JPX 10th anniversary EBMM guitar, which means he started using them around 2000.

Here's footage from a SFAM tour show in 2000 where he used the EBMM prototype for all the standard 6 string tuning songs, but used Ibanez for drop D on Home (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POuKGtf6d3c) and 7 string on TDOE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zC6EjLiZng). My guess is he still recorded SFAM with Ibanez and started using EBMM during the tour.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: ReaperKK on November 06, 2017, 05:41:34 AM
Neat! I remember him talking about the prototype on the Metropolis commentary.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: mrbigbri on January 20, 2018, 11:06:06 AM
Yes...it’s.a USA BC Rich ST-III.... Street value of about $600 in 1989.  I own one and love it!
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: AngelBack on January 21, 2018, 10:28:36 AM
I would think the EBMM endorsement brings a ton of (well deserved) royalties but I prefer the Ibanez sound, at least for JP.  And I know there are a lot more variables in a guitarist's sound than just the guitar make, but I prefer JP's Ibanez era tone, lead and rhythm.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on January 21, 2018, 01:46:23 PM
Not only royalties, but JP is in the position to ask pretty much anything he could ever want on a guitar and the guys at EBMM would make it happen no matter what. That’s big deal for JP.

On the other hand, the JP signature guitars are the top selling line for Music Man, so having him on board is very important for them as well. It’s a win-win situation.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: ReaperKK on January 21, 2018, 02:19:51 PM
I would think the EBMM endorsement brings a ton of (well deserved) royalties but I prefer the Ibanez sound, at least for JP.  And I know there are a lot more variables in a guitarist's sound than just the guitar make, but I prefer JP's Ibanez era tone, lead and rhythm.

I honestly think it's just JP's style of playing back then. He switched guitars right around the time his style of playing switched.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Drinktheater on January 22, 2018, 11:00:40 AM
Yes...it’s.a USA BC Rich ST-III.... Street value of about $600 in 1989.  I own one and love it!

Interesting looking guitar it looks so 80s, I wonder when exactly John got interested in playing Ibanez RGs!
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 22, 2018, 11:19:58 AM
The ibanez is by far my favorite. And its what inspired me to play ibanez guitars.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Architeuthis on January 22, 2018, 10:40:23 PM
This is a great subject!  I would love more than anything to get a JP Sig EBMM (any installment), but my pocket book sais no.
I'm glad I got my PRS custom 22 when I was younger and had less bills. PRS makes excellent guitars, I wonder if John Petrucci has ever played one?  Lol
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on January 23, 2018, 09:02:46 AM
This is a great subject!  I would love more than anything to get a JP Sig EBMM (any installment), but my pocket book sais no.
I'm glad I got my PRS custom 22 when I was younger and had less bills. PRS makes excellent guitars, I wonder if John Petrucci has ever played one?  Lol

https://youtu.be/_ovdzUj8h6o?t=5m15s
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: jasc15 on January 23, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
https://musicplayers.com/features/guitars/2007/0607_John_Petrucci.php

Quote
MPc:  Change of Seasons.

JP:  Something that pops into mind is the solo in “Change of Seasons” – it was improvised. It was a scratch solo.

MPc:  Oh wow!

JP: Yeah. I didn’t like it, and it was David Prater again. He came back and he was like, “That’s the solo. That’s awesome!” and I was like, “That sucked! I just improvised that!” and I remember trying to redo it, and he was getting impatient with me and he [insisted that first take was the one]. We left it, and to this day, I’m not crazy about it.

Is he nutty?  I'm guessing he is referring to the one around 15:30?  I would have never guessed that.  Its one of my top JP solos.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 23, 2018, 01:21:58 PM
^ I agree that's a killer solo. If I remember correctly, JP also improvised the Voices solo, which is also one of my favorites.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on January 23, 2018, 02:27:11 PM
I feel the same way as JP about the ACOS solo, I’ve never been a fan of it.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Architeuthis on January 23, 2018, 02:50:54 PM
This is a great subject!  I would love more than anything to get a JP Sig EBMM (any installment), but my pocket book sais no.
I'm glad I got my PRS custom 22 when I was younger and had less bills. PRS makes excellent guitars, I wonder if John Petrucci has ever played one?  Lol

https://youtu.be/_ovdzUj8h6o?t=5m15s
Wow thanks, that's a great find! I had no idea JP used a PRS on part of TOT.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: gzarruk on January 23, 2018, 06:54:10 PM
This is a great subject!  I would love more than anything to get a JP Sig EBMM (any installment), but my pocket book sais no.
I'm glad I got my PRS custom 22 when I was younger and had less bills. PRS makes excellent guitars, I wonder if John Petrucci has ever played one?  Lol

https://youtu.be/_ovdzUj8h6o?t=5m15s
Wow thanks, that's a great find! I had no idea JP used a PRS on part of TOT.

Don't know if he ended up recording something with it or not, but at least he used ito on the writing sessions :biggrin:
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: axeman90210 on January 25, 2018, 03:37:38 PM
I feel like I remember hearing that UaGM was improv'd as well, which is just bananas.
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: sfam2112 on February 03, 2018, 08:55:38 AM

Don't know if he ended up recording something with it or not, but at least he used ito on the writing sessions :biggrin:

He recorded the scratch track for SoC with it. You can see him playing it in the background on MP's Drums of Thought DVD. So he did record with it, but I'm willing to bet it's not on the finished version. :)
Title: Re: What Guitars did John Petrucci used on recording WDADU?
Post by: Drinktheater on February 28, 2018, 11:35:56 AM
Speaking of guitars, does anyone know what Pickups where used for Erotomania and the other Six string guitar sets on the Awake album?

I know in the Images and Words he is still using a Di Marzio "The Tone Zone" in the Bridge position