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Title: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 16, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
The only two real choices are listed.

(https://i.imgur.com/7TNNXY8.jpg)

vs
 
(https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_36/1155951/starship-we-built-this-city-tease-today-160906_d3940ff01f334ad0fd41207fc95c6f34.today-inline-large.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Zook on October 16, 2017, 07:09:34 PM
For those of us not alive in the 70s, band names and songs would be nice.

Google Image search gave me the answer, but should I really need to do that?

Also, those choices are wrong.

Also also, I did not see the poll.

Shut up, Zook.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: rumborak on October 16, 2017, 07:10:19 PM
Not even a competition for me. The Starship tune is fun, and I have often wondered wondered what compressive strength Rock 'n Roll has so that you can build an entire city on it, but when compared against ABBA ... that's like comparing MC Hammer with MJ.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2017, 07:21:39 PM
Dancing Queen all the way.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2017, 07:22:48 PM
How is We Built This City even a thing? Kev?
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 16, 2017, 07:23:45 PM
Haha, true, rumbo.

We Built This City really isn't as awful as many think, or even I thought at one point. For what it is, a big bag of pop cheese, it's very catchy.

ABBA, though, gets a bad rap from some, but were actually pretty good.  That kind of vocal prowess was something to behold.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2017, 07:24:47 PM
Rabies is catchy.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: rumborak on October 16, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5YyyxMKaZdQ/VjiGDzvQvzI/AAAAAAAB6i0/Vzjr7qLVNbs/s1600/Agnetha%2BFaltskog%2BLollipop%252C%2B1976%2B%25281%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2017, 07:26:47 PM
Rabies is catchy.

You should know you old cahoot!
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cool Chris on October 16, 2017, 07:27:10 PM
Nothing, and I mean nothing, gets a girl out on to a dance floor like "Dancing Queen."
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2017, 07:29:12 PM
Nothing gets a girl to put her pants back on than We Built This City.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2017, 07:30:14 PM
Nothing gets a girl to put her pants back on than We Built This City.

 :lol

I saw them play it opening for Night Ranger. 7 Wishes tour.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 16, 2017, 07:31:18 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5YyyxMKaZdQ/VjiGDzvQvzI/AAAAAAAB6i0/Vzjr7qLVNbs/s1600/Agnetha%2BFaltskog%2BLollipop%252C%2B1976%2B%25281%2529.jpg)

 :lol :lol

 :tup :tup
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 16, 2017, 07:31:44 PM
Nothing, and I mean nothing, gets a girl out on to a dance floor like "Dancing Queen."

Except a Bon Jovi or Def Leppard song.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2017, 07:33:04 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/25/50/66255051aa5478b9042be0f88bf673db--grace-slick-grace-omalley.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on October 16, 2017, 07:34:26 PM
I believe the song you are looking for is Valerie by Steve Winwood.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2017, 07:35:39 PM
I believe the song you are looking for is Valerie by Steve Winwood.

You are on acid.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 16, 2017, 07:36:48 PM
I believe the song you are looking for is Valerie by Steve Winwood.

That is a fine tune.  :hat

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/25/50/66255051aa5478b9042be0f88bf673db--grace-slick-grace-omalley.jpg)

(https://images2.houstonpress.com/imager/u/original/6771237/7959779.0.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 16, 2017, 07:41:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OZiZQ6G.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
Curses...

(https://mygaytherapist.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/abbatin2.jpg)

...foiled again.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 16, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: As I Am on October 16, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
BOTH absolutely SUCK, but WBTC may be THE WORST song ever put to vinyl! :tdwn
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Adami on October 16, 2017, 09:46:26 PM
BOTH absolutely SUCK, but WBTC may be THE WORST song ever put to vinyl! :tdwn

Dancing Queen does not suck. This is an objective fact. One of the very few in music.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Mladen on October 16, 2017, 11:33:39 PM
This isn't even close for me.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Fritzinger on October 17, 2017, 01:10:05 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/OZiZQ6G.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDBBCuw_Rpc
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2017, 03:59:03 AM
Like any heterosexual male who grew up in the 70's, I never, ever thought I'd be in a band playing "Dancing Queen" by ABBA.  All the guys in the band are in their 50s, but our singers are both female and in their 30s.  They are much better in tune with what works, and of course it has to be stuff they can sing in the first place.

So now I'm 55 years old, and I'm in a band playing "Dancing Queen" by ABBA.  True story.



But since the Starship tune blows chunks, it really wasn't much of a choice anyway.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 17, 2017, 04:19:08 AM
Dancing Queen is the best them!

As a sweediish plumber, I feel ashamed even stating that fact.

*walks out in shame*
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Elite on October 17, 2017, 04:22:14 AM
Where is More Than a Feeling by Boston?
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Podaar on October 17, 2017, 06:17:56 AM
Starship sucks, but ABBA blows...in the best possible way.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-crgQGdpZR0/maxresdefault.jpg)

Makes you kinda tingle...you know, down there.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Nekov on October 17, 2017, 06:28:30 AM
I voted for We built this city, not only because I've never been a fan of Abba but because I really like the song, even if it's super cheesy
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 17, 2017, 07:31:55 AM
Although it's not valid to not like ABBA, I actually don't like them. I can see their appeal but they don't do a thing for me.

That said, We Build This City is awful also.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: RoeDent on October 17, 2017, 07:33:13 AM
I love both these songs. Anyone who cries "cheesy" is a party pooper killjoy.

However, my real answer for the greatest pop song ever, the song that comes closest to absolute perfection, is David Bowie's Absolute Beginners. Perfect production, incredible lyrics, stunning chord progression, a saxophone solo that sends the song into the stratosphere. 6:20-odd of utter perfection...

...then, sadly that samba bit comes in and undermines the ending somewhat. That sax solo (or at least some instrumental passage with the chord progression from the chorus) should have continued to the song's end at 8:00.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Walrus on October 17, 2017, 08:04:41 AM
Where is the option for Tearin' Up My Heart?

I have no problem admitting I love a lot of pop tunes, and the hits. Even in my 20s I'm too old to play musical elitism.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: RoeDent on October 17, 2017, 08:12:56 AM
Even in my 20s I'm too old to play musical elitism.  :biggrin:

Musical elitism is vile and should be crushed and destroyed with all the might we can collectively muster.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Stadler on October 17, 2017, 09:04:34 AM
Given that the REAL answer, "Everytime You Cry", by the Outfield, isn't on the list, I'm going with Abba, only because they came first.  But I make no bones about the fact that I really like both songs. 

"Musical elitism" can suck my ****.   I like what I like, and make no apologies.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: soupytwist on October 17, 2017, 09:41:10 AM
Take On Me - A-Ha.

 :heart
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Stadler on October 17, 2017, 01:25:29 PM
Curses...

(https://mygaytherapist.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/abbatin2.jpg)

...foiled again.

That's illegal in like 36 states.   
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2017, 02:00:48 PM
I gotta be honest.  A lot of people go all ga-ga over the girls from ABBA, but I never thought they were that hot.  Agneta (the blonde) looks pretty cute sometimes, but Frida (the brunette) never did anything for me.  Sure, show enough skin and you'll get people's attention, but even in junior high I remember thinking that they were playing up the "sexy" angle to boost their songs, and that's just lame.  It's still all about the music.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: ganpondorodf on October 17, 2017, 02:11:23 PM
I really like We Built This City so I picked that. I like ABBA more overall but Dancing Queen isn't one of my favourites by them
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Stadler on October 17, 2017, 02:18:20 PM
I gotta be honest.  A lot of people go all ga-ga over the girls from ABBA, but I never thought they were that hot.  Agneta (the blonde) looks pretty cute sometimes, but Frida (the brunette) never did anything for me.  Sure, show enough skin and you'll get people's attention, but even in junior high I remember thinking that they were playing up the "sexy" angle to boost their songs, and that's just lame.  It's still all about the music.

But you have to give Barry Gibb credit for being the lead guy in the Bee Gees AND Abba.  ;)  :)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2017, 02:22:36 PM
It does look like him, doesn't it?  :lol

Confession: I bought Barry Gibb's new solo album the other day.  It was a present for my wife, but we listened to it in the car and it's not bad.



Jefferson Starship, with Kantner, Balin, and Slick was great.  Mickey Thomas has a hell of a voice, but he's still no Marty Balin, and once Kantner and Slick left and they became just Starship, it was Pure American Processed Cheese Food.

ABBA meanwhile always had incredible orchestration and arrangements.  Benny and Bjorn (the two guys, duh) knew their shit.  I admit, I never came to this realization until after I bought the Chess Soundtrack and figured out that it's them.  One Night in Bangkok, The Deal (No Deal), You and I, etc.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2017, 03:01:45 PM
It does look like him, doesn't it?  :lol

Confession: I bought Barry Gibb's new solo album the other day.  It was a present for my wife, but we listened to it in the car and it's not bad.



Jefferson Starship, with Kantner, Balin, and Slick was great.  Mickey Thomas has a hell of a voice, but he's still no Marty Balin, and once Kantner and Slick left and they became just Starship, it was Pure American Processed Cheese Food.

ABBA meanwhile always had incredible orchestration and arrangements.  Benny and Bjorn (the two guys, duh) knew their shit.  I admit, I never came to this realization until after I bought the Chess Soundtrack and figured out that it's them.  One Night in Bangkok, The Deal (No Deal), You and I, etc.  Great stuff.

I've got a confession as well.  As a 9 year old in 1977 I bought the Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack with Kiss Alive II. 


I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2017, 03:10:33 PM
Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack was pretty good.  I never picked it up because I had two female friends who had it, so needless to say, I heard it many times.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Walrus on October 17, 2017, 03:18:46 PM
Curses...

(https://mygaytherapist.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/abbatin2.jpg)

...foiled again.

That's illegal in like 36 states.

You know, being born in '91, 70s band photos never fail to either horrify me or crack me up. There's usually no in between. This falls into the former category. Guy on the right looks like he could be Michael Cera's dad.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: rumborak on October 17, 2017, 03:33:39 PM
I gotta be honest.  A lot of people go all ga-ga over the girls from ABBA, but I never thought they were that hot.  Agneta (the blonde) looks pretty cute sometimes, but Frida (the brunette) never did anything for me.  Sure, show enough skin and you'll get people's attention, but even in junior high I remember thinking that they were playing up the "sexy" angle to boost their songs, and that's just lame.  It's still all about the music.

I am reasonably sure that in their heyday, Agneta got all the attention. Also, keep in mind that the idea of "beautiful woman" was very different in the 70s than today.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: AngelBack on October 17, 2017, 03:37:14 PM
I think I saw those 4 in every Swedish porn I ever saw.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I gotta be honest.  A lot of people go all ga-ga over the girls from ABBA, but I never thought they were that hot.  Agneta (the blonde) looks pretty cute sometimes, but Frida (the brunette) never did anything for me.  Sure, show enough skin and you'll get people's attention, but even in junior high I remember thinking that they were playing up the "sexy" angle to boost their songs, and that's just lame.  It's still all about the music.

I am reasonably sure that in their heyday, Agneta got all the attention. Also, keep in mind that the idea of "beautiful woman" was very different in the 70s than today.

I'm talking about the 70's.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2017, 05:08:36 PM
Best pop song ever is one of MJ's hits IMO.  Take your pick.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on October 17, 2017, 05:19:01 PM
Best pop song ever is one of MJ's hits IMO.  Take your pick.

Smooth Criminal?
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2017, 05:24:58 PM
Best pop song ever is one of MJ's hits IMO.  Take your pick.

Smooth Criminal?

Yeah, or Thriller, Bad, Billie Jean, Beat It etc.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 17, 2017, 05:47:35 PM
I really like We Built This City so I picked that. I like ABBA more overall but Dancing Queen isn't one of my favourites by them

I don't care what anyone says...Knowing Me, Knowing You is a great pop song.



ABBA meanwhile always had incredible orchestration and arrangements.  Benny and Bjorn (the two guys, duh) knew their shit.  I admit, I never came to this realization until after I bought the Chess Soundtrack and figured out that it's them. One Night in Bangkok, The Deal (No Deal), You and I, etc.  Great stuff.

Interesting. I never knew the ABBA guys did the music for that one.

Curses...

(https://mygaytherapist.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/abbatin2.jpg)

...foiled again.

That's illegal in like 36 states.

You know, being born in '91, 70s band photos never fail to either horrify me or crack me up. There's usually no in between. This falls into the former category. Guy on the right looks like he could be Michael Cera's dad.

Or Nigel Tufnel's little brother.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2017, 07:00:34 PM
 :lol

So true!
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2017, 07:03:40 PM
(https://i0.wp.com/tvtonight.com.au/wp-content/uploads/blogger/_f7Z4BuPQA9c/R_Qltn660VI/AAAAAAAAJEU/uB2h9Yrum2U/s1600/abba4.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 17, 2017, 07:07:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DqwnrmJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
ABBA meanwhile always had incredible orchestration and arrangements.  Benny and Bjorn (the two guys, duh) knew their shit.  I admit, I never came to this realization until after I bought the Chess Soundtrack and figured out that it's them. One Night in Bangkok, The Deal (No Deal), You and I, etc.  Great stuff.

Interesting. I never knew the ABBA guys did the music for that one.

Yep.  It was back in the 80's, and I was kinda into musical soundtracks; movie, Broadway, whatever.  I had Jesus Christ Superstar, of course, and Godspell, Hair, and a few others.  I couldn't find Chess on vinyl, but I found a cassette version that didn't have a lot of liner notes or anything.  But on the spine of the cassette box it said

CHESS
RICE - ANDERSSON - ULVAEUS

Tim Rice I knew, as he'd done the lyrics for Superstar, Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, and at least one or two others with Andrew Lloyd Webber.  But Andersson and Ulvaeus didn't ring any bells.

That's Murray Head singing "One Night in Bangkok".  Murray Head was Judas in the Original Broadway Cast Recording of Jesus Christ Superstar ("the brown cover").  And because Carl Anderson is black and played Judas in the movie, and Murray sounds a lot like him, I thought Murray Head was black for a long time.  Then I saw the video for "One Night in Bangkok".  Whoa, he's white.  Then the VJ (remember them?) said that was from the Chess Soundtrack, music by Benny Andersson and Björn Ulvaeus from ABBA.  My head just about fucking imploded.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Crow on October 17, 2017, 08:38:06 PM
both these are wrong, i'm not a fan of either  :corn
i can't think of any 80's pop tunes i really love, but smooth criminal is a damn fine song regardless
the 80's were not a great decade for music though
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cool Chris on October 17, 2017, 09:23:32 PM
Murray Head was Judas in the Original Broadway Cast Recording of Jesus Christ Superstar ("the brown cover").  And because Carl Anderson is black and played Judas in the movie, and Murray sounds a lot like him, I thought Murray Head was black for a long time.  Then I saw the video for "One Night in Bangkok".  Whoa, he's white. 

It wasn't due to that song, but I remember being surprised he was white as well, as I had the movie Judas in my head, as you did. He also sings the part with quite a bit of soul, for lack of a better word.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2017, 10:13:59 PM
Oh, definitely.  Total R&B/Soul performance by Murray on that record.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 18, 2017, 05:30:47 PM
both these are wrong, i'm not a fan of either  :corn
i can't think of any 80's pop tunes i really love, but smooth criminal is a damn fine song regardless
the 80's were not a great decade for music though

I disagree with everything I've got.  You won't find another decade where so many different genres had great music.  The 80s had it all.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Postwhore on October 18, 2017, 05:35:10 PM
It kills me reading the younger generation saying that. The only issue with the 80s was the new technology of digital recording was very tinny. But like have said so many different genres so many big hits so many stars.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 18, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
both these are wrong, i'm not a fan of either  :corn
i can't think of any 80's pop tunes i really love, but smooth criminal is a damn fine song regardless
the 80's were not a great decade for music though


I agree that Alien Ant Farm rules.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: PowerSlave on October 18, 2017, 06:18:30 PM
The two greatest pop songs ever written are Sunset Grill, and Boys of Summer.

I can't stand The Eagles, but Don Henley is brilliant!
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 18, 2017, 06:28:33 PM
I don't really care for Sunset Grill but Boys Of Summer literally takes me back to the summer of '84. It totally washes over me.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 18, 2017, 07:26:00 PM
The Boys of Summer is literally one of my favorite songs (it's in the top 20) ever by anyone.

Sunset Grill is a really good tune, too.

So many amazing pop songs in the 80s, and with so many different sounds and styles (as opposed to now where most pop songs all seem to sound the same).
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 19, 2017, 04:14:22 AM
the 80's were not a great decade for music though
:omg:
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Polarbear on October 19, 2017, 04:34:42 AM
Toto - Africa

Mic drop...
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: RoeDent on October 19, 2017, 05:38:14 AM
the 80's were not a great decade for music though

This is so wrong it hurts.

Tears for Fears? Crowded House? Marillion? Duran Duran? Depeche Mode? Human League? OMD? A-Ha? Back when pop actually had ambition and depth, with songs that have stood the test of time and remain anthems to this very day. I could list many many more. You can't just dismiss 10 whole years of music just like that. It shows extreme ignorance on your part.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: soupytwist on October 19, 2017, 06:26:53 AM
the 80's were not a great decade for music though

This is so wrong it hurts.

Tears for Fears? Crowded House? Marillion? Duran Duran? Depeche Mode? Human League? OMD? A-Ha? Back when pop actually had ambition and depth, with songs that have stood the test of time and remain anthems to this very day. I could list many many more. You can't just dismiss 10 whole years of music just like that. It shows extreme ignorance on your part.

The early to mid 80's were great, the late 80's are pretty poor.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Podaar on October 19, 2017, 06:27:16 AM
the 80's were not a great decade for music though

This is so wrong it hurts.

Tears for Fears? Crowded House? Marillion? Duran Duran? Depeche Mode? Human League? OMD? A-Ha? Back when pop actually had ambition and depth, with songs that have stood the test of time and remain anthems to this very day. I could list many many more. You can't just dismiss 10 whole years of music just like that. It shows extreme ignorance on your part.

I don't know if modern pop lacks 'ambition and depth' but I think you can say the 80's had pop bands who aggressively sought originality. I don't think any decade has had such diverse pop music. In addition to the bands you list above you could hear anything from Midnight Oil, to Billy Joel, then Wang Chung, followed by Heart. The Honey Drippers, ZZ Top, Berlin, ...  Never mind, it would be ridiculous to list all the acts who had big pop hits in the 80's. Parama may not like any of these bands or songs but, yes, I also strenuously disagree that the 80's sucked.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Walrus on October 19, 2017, 07:26:29 AM
Toto - Africa

Mic drop...

In all seriousness, I'm agreeing with this. Africa is the greatest song ever recorded.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Stadler on October 19, 2017, 08:23:57 AM
both these are wrong, i'm not a fan of either  :corn
i can't think of any 80's pop tunes i really love, but smooth criminal is a damn fine song regardless
the 80's were not a great decade for music though

I disagree with everything I've got.  You won't find another decade where so many different genres had great music.  The 80s had it all.

It kills me reading the younger generation saying that. The only issue with the 80s was the new technology of digital recording was very tinny. But like have said so many different genres so many big hits so many stars.

Both of these.   

It started with "Face Value" and "Back In Black", "Asia", and the return of John Lennon (John fucking Lennon!!!).    And ended with the foreshadowing of grunge (Mother Love Bone, early Nirvana, Louder Than Love by Soundgarden).

And in between you had things as varied as Madonna, The Number of the Beast, Duran Duran, Appetite for Destruction... and I haven't even mentioned Michael Jackson (it's hard to understand just how big he was for that period from "Off The Wall" to "Bad" unless you were there).

I think King hit the nail on the head:  there hasn't been a decade with as disruptive a technology shift as you saw in the 80's, what with the advent of electronic drums (Genesis, Rush, and Yes all have albums where their drummer might say "well, I was trying new things...")

My roots go to the 70's, but if it wasn't for the great music (and I mean legendary) music of 80's, I wouldn't be who I am today.   
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Stadler on October 19, 2017, 08:25:57 AM
Now we're at "the greatest song ever recorded"?   "

"Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys.  Now THAT'S a 'mic drop'. 

Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: rumborak on October 19, 2017, 08:26:21 AM
the 80's were not a great decade for music though

This is so wrong it hurts.

Tears for Fears? Crowded House? Marillion? Duran Duran? Depeche Mode? Human League? OMD? A-Ha? Back when pop actually had ambition and depth, with songs that have stood the test of time and remain anthems to this very day. I could list many many more. You can't just dismiss 10 whole years of music just like that. It shows extreme ignorance on your part.

I suspect Parama only knows the 80s from the totally overplayed saccharine tunes on the radio. Take Frankie Goes To Hollywood. They didn't just play "Relax", their music was great because they had stuff like this on there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEHFGMwfqNA
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cool Chris on October 19, 2017, 08:30:53 AM
Re: Africa. This has to be the most awkward lyric ever in a pop song: "As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti."
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: ganpondorodf on October 19, 2017, 08:37:45 AM
Re: Africa. This has to be the most awkward lyric ever in a pop song: "As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti."

Ha! Good thing I went to page 3 before replying because this is exactly what I was going to post. Love the song but that line is so painfully shoehorned in. Also the video has someone literally chucking a spear, which is unfortunate
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 19, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
Toto - Africa

Mic drop...

In all seriousness, I'm agreeing with this. Africa is the greatest song ever recorded.

It is hard to argue with that.  I know some think the lyrics are hokey, but you won't find many better songs that Africa.  Amazing song.



And in between you had things as varied as Madonna, The Number of the Beast, Duran Duran, Appetite for Destruction... and I haven't even mentioned Michael Jackson (it's hard to understand just how big he was for that period from "Off The Wall" to "Bad" unless you were there).
 

We've discussed the MJ thing before, but it it so true.  It sounds like a cliche, but unless you were around in 1982-1983, it is impossible to really comprehend just how big Thriller was.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 19, 2017, 06:54:05 PM
You know how big Thriller was? My fucking mother came home with a copy of it.

That's gross just thinking about it.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Walrus on October 19, 2017, 08:18:34 PM
Now, see, some of you know I'm a diehard Toto fan, but I sincerely don't understand the problem with the Kilimanjaro line. It's appropriate, geographically accurate, and rhythmically works well. Too many syllables I guess? I personally love it.

You know how big Thriller was? My fucking mother came home with a copy of it.

That's gross just thinking about it.

My parents are the most unhip people I can think of yet they still talk about Thriller.  :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
 :lol

Thankfully my parents were talking about the Everly Brothers, Buddy Holley and Roy Orbison. LOL
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 19, 2017, 08:30:21 PM
Now, see, some of you know I'm a diehard Toto fan, but I sincerely don't understand the problem with the Kilimanjaro line. It's appropriate, geographically accurate, and rhythmically works well. Too many syllables I guess? I personally love it.


I don't have a problem with that line either.

You want a great 80s pop song:

True by Spandau Ballet

I am sure some think it is a bit too cheesy, but I don't care.  It's a gorgeous song.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2017, 08:34:24 PM
Yeah.   I may not own any of Spandau Ballet but that song is fantastic
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Post by: KevShmev on October 19, 2017, 08:37:09 PM
I can't name any other song they ever did.  :lol :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
True.


OH GOD! I KNOW 2 SONGS!! :lol
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Post by: rumborak on October 19, 2017, 08:41:05 PM
If we're talking Spandau Ballet, I actually like Through the Barricades better than True. Then again, it was a big slow dance hit at my local disco back in the day. 'twas the moments where the whole room watched you ask that cute girl for a dance.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2017, 08:45:48 PM
That's when you tried to monitor your wood.  You needed to monitor it not wanting it to be too strong while dancing close.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 20, 2017, 12:06:50 AM
If we're talking Spandau Ballet, I actually like Through the Barricades better than True. Then again, it was a big slow dance hit at my local disco back in the day. 'twas the moments where the whole room watched you ask that cute girl for a dance.

This. I have kind memories of Spandau Ballet and I don't really like their music.  :biggrin:

And what exactly is the problem with that Toto lyric? I don't find anything wrong with it, but then I'm not a native english speaker and maybe I am missing something.
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Post by: ganpondorodf on October 20, 2017, 02:42:02 AM
'Serengeti' just doesn't fit comfortably into the line. The enunciation of it is so awkward
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 20, 2017, 04:23:47 AM
Toto - Africa

Mic drop...

In all seriousness, I'm agreeing with this. Africa is the greatest song ever recorded.

It is hard to argue with that.  I know some think the lyrics are hokey, but you won't find many better songs that Africa.  Amazing song.
Definitely the strongest hook i've ever heard in a song, the chorus pretty much defines what makes a pop song popular. Even to this day I still find the chorus to be uplifting, especially when I hear it live.

I've listen to this song for over 20 years and that line has never bothered me, now that you mention it though....  :lol Damn it DTF!
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: soupytwist on October 20, 2017, 06:27:27 AM
Re: Africa. This has to be the most awkward lyric ever in a pop song: "As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti."

Also the fact no way can you see Kilimanjaro from the anywhere on the Serengeti, let alone rising like Olympus  ;D

Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Walrus on October 20, 2017, 07:35:05 AM
'Serengeti' just doesn't fit comfortably into the line. The enunciation of it is so awkward

Yeah.. well... you stink.

:biggrin:
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: ganpondorodf on October 20, 2017, 08:04:04 AM
Hey, it's otherwise flawless!
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Post by: KevShmev on October 20, 2017, 08:21:47 AM
Speaking of flawless 80s pop songs:

Wham! - Careless Whisper
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 20, 2017, 08:25:21 AM
Speaking of flawless obnoxious 80s pop songs:

Wham! - Careless Whisper

It is an earworm but one of the worst kind.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cool Chris on October 20, 2017, 08:41:48 AM
'Serengeti' just doesn't fit comfortably into the line. The enunciation of it is so awkward

That was my thinking. Also, if you are rockers, sing about getting laid, driving fast cars, spending lavishly on your house.... not some desert in the middle of Africa, or whatever the hell the Serengeti is!

Careless Whisper is a quintessential 80s song but I don't think it is timeless as some of these other songs.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 20, 2017, 05:01:43 PM
Speaking of flawless obnoxious 80s pop songs:

Wham! - Careless Whisper

It is an earworm but one of the worst kind.

Eh, you want an obnoxious 80s pop song?  I present to you:

Don't Worry, Be Happy

That song is hot garbage.

Careless Whisper is a quintessential 80s song but I don't think it is timeless as some of these other songs.

Timeless is a tough word, though, as it often refers to something that sounds like it could have come from just about any era or time.  Careless Whisper definitely smacks of the mid 80s.  And I don't have any problem with that.  Songs like that are often a snapshot in time.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cool Chris on October 20, 2017, 05:19:53 PM
Dear God that Don't Worry song is Macarena level of crap.

I was was thinking of 'timeless' to mean something that will resonate in any time period. Thriller will be meaningful 100 years from now. Careless Whisper will not.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2017, 05:25:17 PM
If we're talking Spandau Ballet,

No, I'm pretty sure we're NOT talking Spandau Ballet. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 20, 2017, 07:54:37 PM


I was was thinking of 'timeless' to mean something that will resonate in any time period. Thriller will be meaningful 100 years from now. Careless Whisper will not.

I get what you mean, but then that begs the question: how many songs will really be meaningful in 100 years?

I think, if anything, the last decade or so has shown that a lot of 80s music is aging really well.  80s music was everyone's favorite punching bag when grunge had its tinny tiny little phase of being "the thing," but once that faded, a lot of people realized how great the 80s really was for music.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2017, 07:57:26 PM
I hear Careless Whisper on my work's intercom music every day.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 20, 2017, 07:59:27 PM
The hold music for a company I used to have to call almost every day was Tears of Fears' Mad World.   :coolio
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: erwinrafael on October 20, 2017, 10:12:53 PM
I don't think Thriller the song would really be timeless. Its.barely played here nowadays. However, BillIe Jean and Beat It is gold.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 21, 2017, 06:57:31 AM
I would agree with that.  Billie Jean and Beat It were the two most popular and successful songs from Thriller, and have held up as the most enduring songs.  I made this in point in another thread a while back, but you could easily argue that Billie Jean is the most popular song of the rock/pop music era (wherever it starts in the 50s till now).
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Post by: erwinrafael on October 21, 2017, 08:39:35 AM
Bad also has some amazing songs. Man in the Mirror, in particular, has been sung by so many artists here and it doesn't get old.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Stadler on October 24, 2017, 12:49:21 PM
My kid says this weekend, "Dad I heard this cool song; do you know it?" and plays "Africa".  :)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Walrus on October 24, 2017, 02:01:56 PM
My kid says this weekend, "Dad I heard this cool song; do you know it?" and plays "Africa".  :)

When I was much younger, I did the very same thing with my dad and GnR's Paradise City. "Dad, have you heard this?!" as if he was born yesterday. LOL. :)

Africa is, truly, a gift to mankind. Praise be to Paich and Porcaro...
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
Not sure what is so great about Africa.


Toto is the biggest tease band in the world. Such great musicians, yet their music blows.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 24, 2017, 06:27:04 PM
Asking what isn't so great about Africa results in a much shorter answer:

Nothing!
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Big Hath on October 24, 2017, 10:20:59 PM
My kid says this weekend, "Dad I heard this cool song; do you know it?" and plays "Africa".  :)

awesome
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cool Chris on October 24, 2017, 11:33:22 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/80630234/so-youre-saying-a-rock-song-about-africa-is-cool.jpg)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 25, 2017, 12:27:44 AM
If we are talking about Toto's Africa, can we talk about Men At Work's Down Under?  I just feel it's like Australia's anthem or something.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: KevShmev on October 25, 2017, 06:58:14 PM
If we are talking about Toto's Africa, can we talk about Men At Work's Down Under?  I just feel it's like Australia's anthem or something.

Love that song. The first "favorite songs list" I ever made in 1982, that was near the top.
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 31, 2017, 04:09:39 AM
If we are talking about Toto's Africa, can we talk about Men At Work's Down Under?  I just feel it's like Australia's anthem or something.

I'm pretty sure it gets played so much here that it's legally considered one.  :lol


...or something like that anyway
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 11, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
*Bada-bump*

Where is More Than a Feeling by Boston?
This quote was left alone collecting dust and I feel a quality song like that needs some respect. It might not be the greatest song evaa but it's a damn great one!
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Crow on July 11, 2019, 05:13:05 PM
The only real answer is Bad Romance
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Walrus on July 11, 2019, 05:31:49 PM
Africa is the greatest song ever recorded.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: pg1067 on July 11, 2019, 05:33:27 PM
I have often wondered wondered what compressive strength Rock 'n Roll has so that you can build an entire city on it, but when compared against ABBA ... that's like comparing MC Hammer with MJ.

Since someone bumped this thread, I'm a gonna comment on this two year old post!

Is it not true that once needs an MC Hammer in order to build a city on rock and roll?
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on July 11, 2019, 09:46:14 PM
Take On Me - A-Ha.

 :heart
I don't know how I missed this comment the first time around, but this might be it for me.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cool Chris on July 11, 2019, 10:22:33 PM
Louie Louie.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 11, 2019, 10:59:33 PM
"Tell it like it T-I-IS" by The B-52s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZOSOpaXbrQ
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Curious Orange on July 12, 2019, 02:54:16 AM
I came on here to say Love Shack by The B52s is clearly the best pop song ever written, only to find the previous poster had nearly the same idea!

Of the two choices, I voted Abba, but We Built This City is also a great pop song, despite being almost universally hated.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Cruithne on July 12, 2019, 04:21:23 AM
The thing I really have against Dancing Queen is not the song itself, it's how people react to it... can they not hear it's a maudlin tale of someone watching someone else dancing with bitter envy? The whole thing sounds like it's meant to be a wistful, melancholic lament yet people get up to dance enthusiastically to it like it's in a major key and all bouncy and fun.

Argh!

Not sure what is so great about Africa.

Africa sounds like it was written as a dare and has a bloody brilliant chorus. What's not to love?

Also, there is that simple joy of watching Steve Lukather's face in the video as he tries to suppress his pain. I'm not sure if Lukather ever followed through on his threat to run down Hollywood Boulevard naked if it was a hit...
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Orbert on July 12, 2019, 06:47:56 AM
The thing I really have against Dancing Queen is not the song itself, it's how people react to it... can they not hear it's a maudlin tale of someone watching someone else dancing with bitter envy? The whole thing sounds like it's meant to be a wistful, melancholic lament yet people get up to dance enthusiastically to it like it's in a major key and all bouncy and fun.

Um, what?

It's a song about letting loose, going out, and dancing.  The singer is encouraging the listener (presumably a 17-year-old girl) to go out and just do it.  Find the right club with the right music, find your king, and dance.  You can dance, you can jive.  Everybody can see that.  You are the Dancing Queen.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 12, 2019, 11:11:43 PM
I came on here to say Love Shack by The B52s is clearly the best pop song ever written, only to find the previous poster had nearly the same idea!
:metal

Even more recent songs like "Pump" and "Love in the year 3000" are really cool.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: SwedishGoose on July 13, 2019, 03:01:38 AM
The two greatest pop songs ever written are Sunset Grill, and Boys of Summer.

I can't stand The Eagles, but Don Henley is brilliant!

Don Henley has written some amazing songs..... New York Minute is my choice
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: WildRanger on July 15, 2019, 03:18:45 PM
I would say Dancing Queen is easily the best ABBA song and one of the best pop tunes ever.



Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: WildRanger on July 15, 2019, 04:02:54 PM
POP song by Rush:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMSFqXGZ5TQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMSFqXGZ5TQ)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: DoctorAction on July 15, 2019, 04:24:36 PM
Take On Me - A-Ha.

 :heart
I don't know how I missed this comment the first time around, but this might be it for me.

This song. This band. I think they're actually my favourite band ever. Tied with Maiden.

But in this poll, ABBA obviously. They're the best pop band in history. Fuck the Beatles. ABBA rules.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: The Curious Orange on July 16, 2019, 08:13:42 AM
Even more recent songs like "Pump" and "Love in the year 3000" are really cool.

"Eyes Wide Open" is the best song on that album.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: ytserush on July 24, 2019, 04:31:45 PM
I'll got with Toy Matinee's Last Plane Out. (Though I'm noticing a bunch of Beatles tunes swimming in my head at the thought of this...)
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: dparrott on July 27, 2019, 08:46:22 PM
Don Henley has written some amazing songs..... New York Minute is my choice

Boys Of Summer is perfection.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: SystematicThought on July 27, 2019, 10:23:30 PM
Boys Of Summer is perfection.
There's something about Boys of Summer playing in mid to late August, driving down the highway at sunset with the windows open and the open road ahead of you. Fits perfectly.

Fun Fact:
Quote
In an interview with Knoxville.com, Neil Giraldo, Pat Benatar's guitarist and husband, says that Henley came in the studio while he was in the process of recording the song "Love Is a Battlefield" using an up tempo beat, and asked Giraldo if he could steal the sound for use in his song, "The Boys of Summer", to which Giraldo gave his permission. Both "Love Is A Battlefield" and "The Boys of Summer" rely heavily on the Linn LM-2 drum machine.

Also, I didn't realize Tom Petty's guitarist Mike Campbell wrote an early demo for Boys of Summer, showed it to Petty, who decided it didn't fit the sound of the record they were working on, Southern Accents. Jimmy Iovine, famous producer and co-creator of Beats Headphones, suggested Campbell show it to Don Henley, who reworked it a bit and put lyrics to it. Thus we have Boys of Summer.
Title: Re: The greatest pop song ever
Post by: Sebastián Pratesi on July 30, 2019, 01:30:41 PM
"Eyes Wide Open" is the best song on that album.
I haven't listened to that one. Thanks for the suggestion! (And sorry for the delay.)