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Title: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 13, 2017, 12:37:27 PM
Anyone going to watch this? I'm going to check it out, it looks pretty good. It delves into the beginning of the FBI's criminal profiling and from the teasers and what I've read it's supposed to be really good. David Fincher directed 4 of the 10 episodes which excites me a bit. 


https://www.netflix.com/title/80114855
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Post by: faizoff on October 13, 2017, 01:10:33 PM
I saw the first two episodes. It's really well made and completely dialogue driven. One review described it as Madmen with detectives. Which is what it looks so far. Maybe a bit of the wire as well. Intriguing for sure.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 13, 2017, 01:19:19 PM
I saw the first two episodes. It's really well made and completely dialogue driven. One review described it as Madmen with detectives. Which is what it looks so far. Maybe a bit of the wire as well. Intriguing for sure.


 :tup    Cool...I'll probably catch an episode or two this weekend.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 13, 2017, 07:44:38 PM
I'm on episode 4 now and this show is fucking awesome so far. The first episode sort of wanders around so I wasn't really sure where it was going. But by the end of the 2nd episode I was bought into the direction it was going. The show is more Se7en than Madmen I think with some Silence of the Lambs and with shades of The Wire for the procedural sequences. There isn't any real action so far but it has riveting dialogue throughout. I like the slow pacing and slow build to everything, even if sometimes there isn't a payoff to that build (Hence my mention of The Wire). The acting is a bit weird at times esp with the lead guy, not sure I buy into his portrayal fully just yet.

I can tell Fincher had a lot to do with setting the tone and look of the show, all 4 episodes so far are setup that way. Really looking forward to watching them all.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 13, 2017, 11:13:18 PM
Just watched the first three episodes. This is a really good show. You're right faizoff, very dialog and character driven but they've done a good job at both. I don't imagine it's going to take me long to fit through this series.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 14, 2017, 10:42:39 AM
Managed to finish it all last night! Amazing show for sure, I think I'm still not sold on the lead guy, don't find his acting that convincing for some reason. I also think his relationship with the girlfriend is kinda wasted time and space on that show. Regardless those are really just a few minor gripes, doesn't take away from everything else.

Everyone else was great and my favorite portrayal has to be Tench, the actor was great and his character arc was a joy to watch. More thoughts later.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 14, 2017, 02:47:36 PM
I think I'm still not sold on the lead guy, don't find his acting that convincing for some reason.

I understand what you're getting at. I don't think it's the acting as much as the character. It seems like they're trying to give him serial killer traits with the quirkiness and intelligence and blend it with a 'normal' person? I don't know....it hasn't bothered me as much as just it sticks out that he's a really different character


Oh and ANNA TORV!  :metal     Frickin' loved her in 'FRINGE' and now get to see her some more.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 16, 2017, 06:49:43 AM
I suppose that's the purpose of his role, to make him look a bit unnerving. They maybe are trying to make him more detached and sorta like his subjects. If I'm not mistaken, he doesn't blink a lot in his scenes which adds to his supposed creepiness. I don't know, either way, it's going to be a terribly long wait for such a good show.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 16, 2017, 07:24:37 AM
I suppose that's the purpose of his role, to make him look a bit unnerving. They maybe are trying to make him more detached and sorta like his subjects. If I'm not mistaken, he doesn't blink a lot in his scenes which adds to his supposed creepiness. I don't know, either way, it's going to be a terribly long wait for such a good show.

I've only three episodes to go....I'm not having the same issue you had with the lead character. He is 'off' for sure but I really think that's intentional. Nonetheless, this show is pretty friggin good! And, that's the issue with binge watching a show in lieu of the traditional flow.....the wait between seasons.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: lonestar on October 16, 2017, 09:02:44 PM
Zipped through 4 episodes today, really good stuff.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 16, 2017, 11:51:17 PM
Just knocked the rest out tonight. Loved it! As faizoff mentioned it's a bummer to have to wait now, assuming there's another season coming. I can't imagine there won't be.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 17, 2017, 06:03:45 AM
The show was already renewed for a second season prior to release, and one of the topics they tackle will be the Atlanta child killings.
https://collider.com/mindhunter-season-2/

I think really for this show the first episode was the weakest, more so because it was just setting things up rather than telling much of a story. But man once it got going, there was no stopping it.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Podaar on October 17, 2017, 06:49:16 AM
I haven't read this thread in order to avoid spoilers, so forgive me if I'm intruding on the current discussion.

Mrs. P and I watched the first two episodes. Love the dialog driven drama (DDD). At first, with the violence of 'shotgun meets face', I thought we were in for splatter horror and death voyeurism, but the show quickly provided more subtle chills. Anyway, it is interesting to see how the FBI became interested in the subject and the initial resistance to the idea. Love, love, love seeing the 1970's again with the crappy cars and the women in hot clothes. A couple of Farrah hair does and it would even be more authentic.  :lol
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 07:59:01 AM
Gregg....my favorite aspect of the show is the 'DDD'. I love the fact this isn't a shoot em' up Cop show, that it's character driven. Not many shows can pull it off and  actually be a good show....'The Leftovers' was the most recent show that pulled it off in my eyes.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 17, 2017, 08:56:00 AM
Yeah, The Leftovers, The Wire are some of the great character-driven shows and this one ranks with them. Truly well executed. Additionally, not a specific spoiler but I love how they ended Holden's arc in the series, his last scene in the series was an awesome closer.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
Yeah, The Leftovers, The Wire are some of the great character-driven shows and this one ranks with them. Truly well executed. Additionally, not a specific spoiler but I love how they ended Holden's arc in the series, his last scene in the series was an awesome closer.

Absolutely agree. It was all building towards something like that and they did a good job of setting up those domino's to fall.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: abydos on October 17, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
I started watching this couple of days ago and I'm absolutely hooked. I love Anna Torv ever since Fringe and I decided to see if she's starring in anything else (strange that somehow her career didn't explode so to say after Fringe, she was so amazing there) and decided to give this a shot. I love it. The main characters are written and played amazingly well, but the guys who play the killers they interview are so good that I actually like their characters and genuinely laugh at their jokes, no matter how morbid they might be.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 01:24:58 PM
I love Anna Torv ever since Fringe and I decided to see if she's starring in anything else (strange that somehow her career didn't explode so to say after Fringe, she was so amazing there)

She really was and I was surprised as well that she didn't get more roles from her stint in FRINGE. Perhaps we will see more of her in the future?


but the guys who play the killers they interview are so good that I actually like their characters and genuinely laugh at their jokes, no matter how morbid they might be.

totally agree, especially the character Kemper. That actor is legit playing a serial killer....could totally buy into that they just used a real serial killer to play a serial killer.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 17, 2017, 01:59:57 PM
I checked out some of the interviews the real Kemper did and I think the show just used that straight up. It's eerie watching them both.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 02:04:59 PM
I checked out some of the interviews the real Kemper did and I think the show just used that straight up. It's eerie watching them both.

I'll have to check those out also. YouTube have them or did you find them somewhere else?
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 17, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
They're on youtube.

Here's one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTnEY8y-p7M
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 02:28:51 PM
They're on youtube.

Here's one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTnEY8y-p7M

cool...thanks for the link.  :tup       I'll check that out later tonight.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 05:24:39 PM
They're on youtube.

Here's one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTnEY8y-p7M

Holy Cow!! Watched both videos from that interview. I cannot believe how 'normal' that guy is. It's frightening.....
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 17, 2017, 07:20:31 PM
His candor during those interviews is very unnerving, he's very 'normal' and actually quite intelligent with a high IQ, he's got a towering experience, jeez 6'9" is no joke. I like how they didn't change him that much for the show but just enough to add a bit more of creepiness to it.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 07:44:55 PM
His candor during those interviews is very unnerving, he's very 'normal' and actually quite intelligent with a high IQ, he's got a towering experience, jeez 6'9" is no joke. I like how they didn't change him that much for the show but just enough to add a bit more of creepiness to it.

Yeah. They made the character on TV seem like he had a bit more social awkwardness than how he came across in real life. Literally spoke, acted and looked like the everyday 'Joe'
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 17, 2017, 08:10:19 PM
Meant to write 'presence' not 'experience'
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: TioJorge on October 23, 2017, 12:42:09 PM
Definitely an intriguing watch, but it also felt like a Part 1 and was not totally satisfying. Not that this is an inherent negative considering a Season 2 is already confirmed. There's a lot left to explore though and that's pretty exciting. It's not in my favorites now but I have a feeling once Season 2 comes out and I eventually binge both seasons, it'll be up there.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 25, 2017, 11:47:08 AM
Cool side by side of the shows Kemper scenes with real interview footage.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDYBmNYc8IA#action=share
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: SystematicThought on October 25, 2017, 04:15:16 PM
I was thinking about this while mowing the lawn. Fincher said he hopes that show goes on for five seasons, so that gives time for Bill's son to grow a bit older. I really hope they don't put in some subplot in the future where Bill's son starts having some serial killer-like tendencies. That would be so unnecessary in my eyes, I'm just interested if he'll play into a subplot later in the show.

Also, on that subject, after the crash and Holden and Bill are eating in the diner, is Bill hinting to Holden that he feels a connection to him where Bill views Holden like a son, since he can't connect to his own?


Cool side by side of the shows Kemper scenes with real interview footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDYBmNYc8IA#action=share
Also, my God, it's almost perfect. That's haunting
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 14, 2018, 02:01:05 PM
Just started watching. Just one episode in and its really decent. I love shows like this and one of my favorite movies ever is Manhunter which is essentially the same concept, hunting serial killers using criminal psychology. Fascinating stuff.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on January 14, 2018, 02:41:36 PM
Yeah this show is more about those techniques developed by the FBI used in the silence of the lambs/manhunter movies. It's a gripping show and extremely well made though oddly enough I feel the 1st episode is the weakest of them all.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 14, 2018, 06:06:17 PM
I'm about 6 episodes in and I totally agree, the first episode was kind of so so. But its really good from what I seen there after.

Mindhunter is basically what I wanted the Hannibal TV show to be. 
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 16, 2019, 04:05:55 AM
Season 2 out now
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 16, 2019, 08:30:16 AM
Looking forward to it. And I just saw this comment:

Mindhunter is basically what I wanted the Hannibal TV show to be. 

did you not like Hannibal? I thought and still think Hannibal was incredible.....and in my mind Mads Mikkelson IS Hannibal Lectar.....not Anthony Hopkins. That series was awesome and there is rumblings that all involved are chomping at the bit to start it back up.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: TioJorge on August 16, 2019, 10:02:07 AM
Two chiming-ins: One, Hannibal the series is amazing and one of the greatest and most beautiful TV accomplishments ever; and Two, I'm really looking forward to season 2 of Mindhunter. But it will never beat out Hannibal in my eyes simply because of the artistry and the acting of Mikkelson and Dancy and their chemistry.

I digress. This season looks to only ramp up the subjects and eerie intrigue of S1, which is exactly what I wanted. :metal :corn
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 16, 2019, 10:05:48 AM
One, Hannibal the series is amazing and one of the greatest and most beautiful TV accomplishments .......... simply because of the artistry and the acting of Mikkelson and Dancy and their chemistry.

You and I agree whole heartedly on this series as I recall we had many a conversation about it when it was going on. I don't want to hijack this thread talking about Hannibal but I'll admit I get a bit giddy when I read that there are efforts to pick this series back up and that all involved are game.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: TioJorge on August 16, 2019, 10:20:52 AM
Yes, we did! And yeah, me too. Definitely not getting my hopes up but...I'm kinda getting my hopes up.  :lol
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 16, 2019, 03:22:05 PM
Looking forward to it. And I just saw this comment:

Mindhunter is basically what I wanted the Hannibal TV show to be. 

did you not like Hannibal? I thought and still think Hannibal was incredible.....and in my mind Mads Mikkelson IS Hannibal Lectar.....not Anthony Hopkins. That series was awesome and there is rumblings that all involved are chomping at the bit to start it back up.

I liked Hannibal but a lot of it was unbelievable. Making a human Chello?? Some old guy making a 3 story tall human totem on the beach?? Like come on man... It was just so unreal in parts that I found it corny. For those that liked that aspect of the show, more power to you. That being said, parts of it were incredible like the Red Dragon season, so I will absolutely give credit where credit's due.

The TV show is decent, but my worship is for Silence of the lambs and Manhunter. I worship them so much that I was pretty damn close to applying to the FBI because it meant that much too me and it resonated that much. Those are far more grounded and were directly inspired by the real life mindhunter (which is why mindhunter is more my style and ultimately its just personal preference)   

But anyway, Mindhunter feels real, and that's because it is real. The real world is far more fascinating and terrifying to me. 
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 17, 2019, 11:12:18 AM
Watched the first two episodes last night. Didn’t skip a beat. Looks to be another good season.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 17, 2019, 12:39:23 PM
Finished season 2 this morning and I totally agree. didn't miss a beat at all and stands right up there with Season 1. Love it
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on August 17, 2019, 06:19:45 PM
4 Episodes of season 2 in and I can't believe how amazing the interviews are edited and constructed. So far not a single one of them is boring or a waste of episode time. Even if they don't lead to anything, it's a joy to watch and listen it unfold.

How I missed this show.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on August 18, 2019, 11:33:54 AM
...and done. Amazing second season and I had no idea about the Atlanta kids so it was heartbreaking to follow those developments on the show and then reading up on it, they follow very closely with what is known about those events.

Such a great show, honestly, the technical parts of the show are top notch, it's a joy to watch it. The entire series kept me on the toes and the dialogue was great throughout.

I read they have a 5 season plan for the show, just hope Netflix doesn't cancel it.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 18, 2019, 11:48:48 AM
Oh man. I would love to see it go 5 seasons  :metal
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: abydos on August 19, 2019, 03:35:52 AM
The quality of acting and production is amazing, but I found this season to be completely pointless. The main story was lame, the conclusion wasn't captivating. Very week story this time.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 19, 2019, 05:56:02 AM
Having blown through season 2, I'm now going back watching season 1. Its just as good.

I had totally forgot that they started establishing BTK on episode 2 of season 1 and give little pieces on almost every single episode. I wonder if they will end the series with how his story played out.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 22, 2019, 08:26:26 AM
As much as I like this show I have to agree with this:


The quality of acting and production is amazing, but I found this season to be completely pointless. The main story was lame, the conclusion wasn't captivating. Very week story this time.

Once they shifted the episodes to primarily the Atlanta story line I thought the episodes suffered. The struggle with Tench's wife/kid was compelling....but I didn't really get hooked by the drive to catch the killer of the kids. With this revelation that there is a (5) season 'plan' I'll trust that in the big picture this season will feel more important....but to me....right now....I feel like they lost traction a bit and deviated from their bread and butter which is interviewing serial killers.

With that being said I still enjoyed the season and like the show....but I don't feel like it measured up to S1 and got too smart for itself in S2.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on January 16, 2020, 02:07:26 PM
Looks like the actors are being released from their show contracts. The reason being given is that David Fincher is busy at the moment and not sure when he'll get time to revisit the series anytime soon. Don't know if that means that the show is canceled but it sure looks that way to me. That would be such a bummer if true.

https://tvline.com/2020/01/15/mindhunter-season-3-netflix-cancelled-renewed/
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 16, 2020, 02:25:56 PM
Looks like the actors are being released from their show contracts. The reason being given is that David Fincher is busy at the moment and not sure when he'll get time to revisit the series anytime soon. Don't know if that means that the show is canceled but it sure looks that way to me. That would be such a bummer if true.

https://tvline.com/2020/01/15/mindhunter-season-3-netflix-cancelled-renewed/

Yeah....I saw that. Hopefully it's just an extended hiatus and they find a way to continue future seasons with that cast.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 16, 2020, 06:12:42 PM
God dammit
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Harmony on January 19, 2020, 10:15:55 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  :tdwn
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Grappler on January 19, 2020, 07:05:25 PM
That sucks.  I watched both seasons a few months ago after my wife suggested it and completely fell in love with the show.  Hopefully they come back around to it someday.
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: faizoff on October 23, 2020, 07:56:15 PM
Well... either we're getting an extremely long hiatus or the show is as good as done. (https://www.vulture.com/2020/10/mindhunter-season-three-not-happening.html) My guess is the latter.


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David Fincher Confirms the ‘Very Expensive’ Mindhunter Is Done for Now


he said, “It’s a 90-hour workweek. It absorbs everything in your life. When I got done [with season 2], I was pretty exhausted, and I said, ‘I don’t know if I have it in me right now to break season three.’”
Title: Re: Mindhunter - NETFLIX
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 23, 2020, 08:33:24 PM
It was great while it lasted