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Title: Porcupine Tree "Metal" Era Poll
Post by: goo-goo on September 13, 2017, 08:39:51 AM
I've been revisiting Porcupine Tree's catalogue ever since Steven Wilson released To The Bone. I personally like the more Metal side of Porcupine Tree. Which leads me to this poll. What's your favorite album (including B-sides) of this era?

I personally keep going back to Deadwing. It has a little bit of everything.
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Post by: Zantera on September 13, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
FOABP + Nil Recurring
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Post by: PixelDream on September 13, 2017, 10:04:27 AM
I'm wondering why you didn't include The Incident. Seems to me that some of their heaviest material is on that one.

Anyway, even with just three options I find it difficult to make a choice. Although I must say, I went to see the Anesthetize concert in my local arthouse cinema (someone from the local record shop arranged that - I know, it's amazing  :P), and it occurred to me how cringy some of the FOABP era lyrics can be.

I'll go with Deadwing. My favorite song ever is on there. Arriving Somewhere But Not Here.
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Post by: PowerSlave on September 13, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
The Incident should definitely be included. However, that wouldn't change my vote. In Absentia all the way.
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Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 13, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
definitely Deadwing.

Fear of a Blank Planet is miles below the other 2.
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Post by: Nekov on September 13, 2017, 01:35:06 PM
In Absentia is my favorite PT albums so...
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Post by: RoeDent on September 13, 2017, 02:47:42 PM
Where's The Incident? It's a far better album than many make it out to be.
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Post by: goo-goo on September 13, 2017, 03:34:22 PM
Just added The Incident. I prefer CD2 over CD1 but still Deadwing is where it is for me.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 13, 2017, 03:51:46 PM
Fear of A Blank Planet. The atmosphere and overall vibe of it makes you feel the subject matter. Anesthetize is what propels it for me. As does Way Out of Here.
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Post by: ariich on September 13, 2017, 03:59:46 PM
Oh man, Deadwing. Still one of the best albums ever.
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 13, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
Oh man, Deadwing. Still one of the best albums ever.

Yup.
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Post by: TAC on September 13, 2017, 04:14:49 PM
 :corn
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Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2017, 04:36:07 PM
I'm not a massive PT fan, but Deadwing is by far my go to album.
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Post by: TAC on September 13, 2017, 04:48:40 PM
Can't stand it.
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Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2017, 04:54:01 PM
Can't stand it.

Why?
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Post by: TAC on September 13, 2017, 04:56:59 PM
A guy at work made me a copy, and while I did like Arriving Somewhere and The Start Of Something Beautiful, I just thought those first four songs blew. The vocals suck, and I was frankly disappointed after them getting DTF blowjobs constantly.
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Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2017, 04:59:38 PM
A guy at work made me a copy, and while I did like Arriving Somewhere and The Start Of Something Beautiful, I just thought those first four songs blew. The vocals suck, and I was frankly disappointed after them getting DTF blowjobs constantly.

I don't quite understand the level of praise DTF give Wilson and PT either but they are an interesting, unique band.  I wouldn't go anywhere near as far as a blowjob either.  A compliment and a pinch of the ass is about as far as it goes for me.
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Post by: TAC on September 13, 2017, 05:16:52 PM
Yup. Not talking Winger here! :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 13, 2017, 05:17:14 PM
A guy at work made me a copy, and while I did like Arriving Somewhere and The Start Of Something Beautiful, I just thought those first four songs blew. The vocals suck, and I was frankly disappointed after them getting DTF blowjobs constantly.

I saw this before.......



...........in a comic strip called "Crankshaft". :lol
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Post by: TAC on September 13, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
Another thread hijacked! :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2017, 05:19:48 PM
With Winger!!  I'm proud of you Tim.
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 13, 2017, 05:20:37 PM
Such lofty goals there Tim. :lol

If I had to rate the 4 in order, they would be,

Deadwing
In Absentia
FOABP
The Incident.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 13, 2017, 05:55:19 PM
Deadwing is the best of the four, but it we are adding the accompanying EPs, it is hard not to pick Fear/NR.  What Happens Now? and Cheating the Polygraph are easily two of the three best non-album tracks from the Harrison years (along with Drown with Me).
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Post by: jammindude on September 13, 2017, 07:21:38 PM
The first three are honestly a dead heat for me, and my favorite honestly depends on mood.



Today it's In Absentia
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Post by: dparrott on September 13, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
FOABP and Nil.  I like all of those songs to some degree.
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Post by: The Letter M on September 13, 2017, 10:27:52 PM
Definitely has to be the vinyl track-order of FOABP, which included the Nil Recurring EP. Such an amazing collection of music, and it all fit on a single CD-r! Although I recently discovered the tune "Always Recurring", which was a sort of precursor to "What Happens Now?" which includes some themes and motifs and even lyrical ideas that would make the final song, but the piece ends with the same looping sound effects that open "What Happens Now?", so I've used it as a sort of intro to WHN, and it's an amazing way to close the album.

FOABP was the first new album by PT after I became a fan (not long after DW came out), so it was very exciting for me. I even caught them at Ram's Head Live in Baltimore on that tour, and I *rarely* go to concerts like that, so that album and tour are pretty special to me.

Not far behind FOABP would be In Absentia, including the Futile EP and all related songs, though it would be hard to rank it 2nd considering I also really love Deadwing (especially closing the album with "Half Light" - such an amaaaaaazing song!!!). The Incident is nice, but it doesn't get as much replay value from me as the other three.

-Marc.
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Post by: goo-goo on September 14, 2017, 07:29:53 AM
Definitely has to be the vinyl track-order of FOABP, which included the Nil Recurring EP. Such an amazing collection of music, and it all fit on a single CD-r! Although I recently discovered the tune "Always Recurring", which was a sort of precursor to "What Happens Now?" which includes some themes and motifs and even lyrical ideas that would make the final song, but the piece ends with the same looping sound effects that open "What Happens Now?", so I've used it as a sort of intro to WHN, and it's an amazing way to close the album.

FOABP was the first new album by PT after I became a fan (not long after DW came out), so it was very exciting for me. I even caught them at Ram's Head Live in Baltimore on that tour, and I *rarely* go to concerts like that, so that album and tour are pretty special to me.

Not far behind FOABP would be In Absentia, including the Futile EP and all related songs, though it would be hard to rank it 2nd considering I also really love Deadwing (especially closing the album with "Half Light" - such an amaaaaaazing song!!!). The Incident is nice, but it doesn't get as much replay value from me as the other three.

-Marc.

Where did you get Always Recurring?
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Post by: Samsara on September 14, 2017, 08:05:45 AM
The "metal era" as you define it was when I discovered PT. In Absentia was the first album I bought from them, right after it was released. I voted for Deadwing, however. For me, its their best record. Although their best song, for me, is "Even Less" off of Stupid Dream.

Personally, I'd rank the "metal era" albums:

Deadwing
In Absentia
Fear of a Blank Planet
The Incident

>>>>>>>>>>>>But all four are excellent. I would probably put Stupid Dream in that third spot, overall, and that's how I'd rank PT's top-five (not including the EPs).
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Post by: PixelDream on September 14, 2017, 09:39:25 AM
IMO the amplification of their metal side from IA on didn't hurt the pop, prog and psychedelic sides of the band at all. The balance they achieved on these records is quite extraordinary when I think about it.
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Post by: emtee on September 14, 2017, 09:46:37 AM
4 terrific albums that all stand well against the test of time. Since Deadwing was my introduction I will vote for that but they are all
great albums.
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Post by: The Letter M on September 14, 2017, 02:44:30 PM
Definitely has to be the vinyl track-order of FOABP, which included the Nil Recurring EP. Such an amazing collection of music, and it all fit on a single CD-r! Although I recently discovered the tune "Always Recurring", which was a sort of precursor to "What Happens Now?" which includes some themes and motifs and even lyrical ideas that would make the final song, but the piece ends with the same looping sound effects that open "What Happens Now?", so I've used it as a sort of intro to WHN, and it's an amazing way to close the album.

FOABP was the first new album by PT after I became a fan (not long after DW came out), so it was very exciting for me. I even caught them at Ram's Head Live in Baltimore on that tour, and I *rarely* go to concerts like that, so that album and tour are pretty special to me.

Not far behind FOABP would be In Absentia, including the Futile EP and all related songs, though it would be hard to rank it 2nd considering I also really love Deadwing (especially closing the album with "Half Light" - such an amaaaaaazing song!!!). The Incident is nice, but it doesn't get as much replay value from me as the other three.

-Marc.

Where did you get Always Recurring?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1v3_euY0-4

I first heard it on here, and then found the following link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsQP4dE61Tw

-Marc.
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Post by: RoeDent on September 14, 2017, 03:19:15 PM
Voted for The Incident, because it needs love and no one else will give it. For shame...
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Post by: ? on September 15, 2017, 04:03:08 AM
Fear
Absentia
DW
TI
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Post by: pogoowner on September 15, 2017, 05:03:35 PM
In Absentia is the best thing they ever released.
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Post by: WDADU on September 15, 2017, 06:05:10 PM
I voted for Deadwing because it's my favourite record of theirs. But it was hard not to vote for Fear of a Blank Planet purely because of "Anesthetize", which is my all-time favourite Porcupine Tree song.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 15, 2017, 06:06:17 PM
Anesthetize is awesome, but I still think Arriving Somewhere But Not Here is just a little bit better.
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Post by: ReaperKK on September 15, 2017, 06:58:01 PM
I don't know what it is about Deadwing but it didn't click with me at all apart from a couple of songs.

I really enjoy TI and I think it's superior to Deadwing.
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Post by: Herrick on September 19, 2017, 01:43:08 PM
I've only been into Porcupine Tree for a few months. My favorite album of theirs has been Deadwing. Butt I'm betting that could change in the future because Fear of a Blank Planet and In Absentia are both really fucking good.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on November 01, 2017, 04:57:51 PM
For me its a toss up between In absentia and FOABP, perhaps even a tie. In absentia has some really incredible songs and a nice variety.
 There is no song I don't like on FOABP and anesthetize is legendary.

I definitely dig The incident, but have never been huge on Deadwing.

Ultimately, I miss Porcupine Tree. When I saw them for the first time on the Incident tour, never did it cross my mind that this would actually be their last tour  :'(
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Post by: twosuitsluke on November 01, 2017, 05:06:41 PM
A guy at work made me a copy, and while I did like Arriving Somewhere and The Start Of Something Beautiful, I just thought those first four songs blew. The vocals suck, and I was frankly disappointed after them getting DTF blowjobs constantly.

What??

I think Lazarus is probably my favourite Steven Wilson song, solo or PT! Just beautiful  :hefdaddy
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Post by: goo-goo on November 01, 2017, 09:48:11 PM
A guy at work made me a copy, and while I did like Arriving Somewhere and The Start Of Something Beautiful, I just thought those first four songs blew. The vocals suck, and I was frankly disappointed after them getting DTF blowjobs constantly.

What??

I think Lazarus is probably my favourite Steven Wilson song, solo or PT! Just beautiful  :hefdaddy

Lol. I can't stand Lazarus. Never could get into it.
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Post by: majo on November 02, 2017, 03:02:27 AM
In Absentia is my favorite PT albums so...
+1
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Post by: Mladen on November 02, 2017, 03:33:31 AM
Deadwing is my favorite album, so given that it's paired with two pretty great songs on the Lazarus EP (So called friend and Half-light), it's an easy vote.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 02, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
I am so happy those songs weren't on Deadwing.

Half Light is a solid tune, but Glass Arm Shattering is better and a superior choice as a closer.

So Called Friend has some awkward vocal melodies, so that has become a song I never revisit.
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Post by: Mladen on November 03, 2017, 02:19:48 AM
Some of the verse vocal melodies o So called friend are a bit generic but I'm not too bothered by them. I agree Glass arm is superior as the album closer, although I adore Half-light as well.
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Post by: ChuckSteak on November 03, 2017, 04:18:21 AM
I don't think PT has a metal era. They have heavy passages in some songs, but I wouldn't define this as "metal era".
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Post by: ReaperKK on November 03, 2017, 05:00:41 AM
I am so happy those songs weren't on Deadwing.

Half Light is a solid tune, but Glass Arm Shattering is better and a superior choice as a closer.

So Called Friend has some awkward vocal melodies, so that has become a song I never revisit.

Glass Arm Shattering is one of the best songs on Deadwing.

I enjoy So Called Friend, espiecially the drum work by Gavin. The main riff sounds incredibly similar to "Part Of Me" by Tool
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Post by: Phoenix87x on November 03, 2017, 02:49:47 PM

I enjoy So Called Friend, espiecially the drum work by Gavin. The main riff sounds incredibly similar to "Part Of Me" by Tool

I just listened to it for the first time. wow, it really does sound like tool
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Post by: PixelDream on November 05, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
Glass Arm Shattering is incredible! The signature SW choirs are strong on this one, just utterly amazing if you ask me.