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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chino on July 24, 2017, 11:28:59 AM
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I go to subway for lunch a few times per week and have gotten into the habit of paying with cash lately rather than card. Every day my order comes to $9.66 and I hand the cashier a $10 bill. They registers have the automatic change dispensers so the cashiers don't have to do math. Well, last week, three days in a row, I was shorted between $0.01 and $0.03. I went to another subway in the city on Friday and was shorted $0.02. Yesterday at a restop 100 miles away, I was shorted $0.01. No more than ten minutes ago, I was shorted $0.03 again.
I'm now 6 for 6 in being shorted change since noticing this. Maybe I'm just being a cheap bastard here, but it really pisses me off. I really don't give a damn about a couple pennies, but is this something that is happening everywhere? Could Subway be doing this to millions of people per week? I need answers. If you go to subway, pay with cash, count your change, and post your finding here.
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Interesting. Yea most people aren't going to notice a penny missing, but that ends up over transactions after transaction between stores.
I used to love subway, but I think I ate too much of it and almost never eat it anymore. Maybe I'll have to go to one by me just to test this out.
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Setting aside the notion that anything you get from Subway could possibly be worth $10, why not just call them out on it? If it's that consistent count your change right in front of them and say the machine scammed you. Drag the manager out and have him crack it open to give you your 1 cent. Then tell the people behind you to count their change. Do it every time you're in there until they get sick of it.
Out of curiosity, is there sales tax involved? Any place that doesn't have to deal with sales tax that prices things in dumb amounts infuriates me. There's no need to have to hand out any change smaller than a quarter unless you're just trying to be a dick.
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I don't want to be that guy who holds up a line of 20 people because I was shorted a penny. Simple as that. I believe sales tax is included.
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I don't want to be that guy who holds up a line of 20 people because I was shorted a penny. Simple as that. I believe sales tax is included.
I would call them out. Don't be shy about it.
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Since I always throw my coins in the tip jar when I pay with cash, I never noticed it.
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Since I always throw my coins in the tip jar when I pay with cash, I never noticed it.
So you're tipping them for ripping you off? ;D
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I'd call them out on it eventually, maybe to corporate but not to the clerk. My local subway just hands out it's change.
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Subway is nasty. I am not sure the chicken is even real chicken. Gross.
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I wouldn't have noticed that in a million years Chino :lol
It could be an Office Space kinda ploy from some laid-off Subway workers ;D
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Fuck that man, two words bro... Class action...
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Since I always throw my coins in the tip jar when I pay with cash, I never noticed it.
So you're tipping them for ripping you off? ;D
It's not so much tipping them as much as it's "I don't want to carry this change in my pocket so you take it".
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Number of Subways in the US- 26744
Average 400 subs a day (found a few stats, this number is fairly in the middle)
Subways are open almost every day of the year I think, except maybe Xmas, Thanksgiving, NYE, and the 4th
We'll just go with 1 cent every other sandwich...
26744*200*361*.01=$18,744,288
Not too shabby a skim...
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And it could be as much as three times that. I'll take it if they don't want it.
I don't carry any change at all, but I do count it.
I'll ask my daughter; she eats there a fair amount. Though I don't think she's paying cash.
As for the food, the recent Italian special they've been offering is the bomb diddly. Not like going to a real Italian deli, but still.
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Number of Subways in the US- 26744
Average 400 subs a day (found a few stats, this number is fairly in the middle)
Subways are open almost every day of the year I think, except maybe Xmas, Thanksgiving, NYE, and the 4th
We'll just go with 1 cent every other sandwich...
26744*200*361*.01=$18,744,288
Not too shabby a skim...
In the event that this is actually a thing at a large scale, it's going to be really interesting when the accounting auditors are trying to figure out, for the yearly audit, why Subway has an extra $18 million in revenue than they should have and it's going to be interesting when Subway explains that to the shareholder's meeting.
Edit: Oh wait, I just looked it up. Subway is not a publicly traded company. Then, they don't have to explain anything and can possibly get away with it. Those dastards.
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It's interesting, because if this is actually happening all the time, the balance of the drawer is going to end up being wrong every single day (possibly multiple times per day, depending on how they do it at Subway), and that has to be acknowledged by some form of management each and every time. Sounds annoying as hell for the people working there.
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You sure you're counting correctly?
You know what? I'll go to subway tomorrow and try this out and see what happens.
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I mean, this happened with AT&T and I had listened to my dad bitch about random scams that were a dollar here and there and then the huge class action happened...low and behold, he got a check and so did a fucking shitload of other people and AT&T paid out the ass. Still a drop in the bucket for them but hey, I suppose it's principal (and my dad's extra $25 dollars).
So hey, you go and show them what's what, Chino! Get dat money. Justice! Sandwiches! Greed! THE AMERICAN DREAM.
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You sure you're counting correctly?
Yes
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Seems to me you'd only have a couple of ways to do it. If you've got coin dispensers then you could probably have it short everybody 1 penny. If you don't, then you have to tell all 133,720 current cashiers to ring 1 cent short per transaction. We'd have heard about it by now.
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Seems to me you'd only have a couple of ways to do it. If you've got coin dispensers then you could probably have it short everybody 1 penny. If you don't, then you have to tell all 133,720 current cashiers to ring 1 cent short per transaction. We'd have heard about it by now.
It could also be a mechanical element in the coin dispensing machine itself. I would rule cashiers shorting the transactions out. My bill is exactly the same every day ($9.66) and it's the change that varies. The amount of change due on the receipt I get does not align with what the dispenser gives me.
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Seems to me you'd only have a couple of ways to do it. If you've got coin dispensers then you could probably have it short everybody 1 penny. If you don't, then you have to tell all 133,720 current cashiers to ring 1 cent short per transaction. We'd have heard about it by now.
Typically when you're working on a POS system you input the amount that was handed to you. If Chino handed her a ten and his total was 9.66, she could have pressed that he gave her 9.97, and he'd only get 31 cents back.
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Seems to me you'd only have a couple of ways to do it. If you've got coin dispensers then you could probably have it short everybody 1 penny. If you don't, then you have to tell all 133,720 current cashiers to ring 1 cent short per transaction. We'd have heard about it by now.
Typically when you're working on a POS system you input the amount that was handed to you. If Chino handed her a ten and his total was 9.66, she could have pressed that he gave her 9.97, and he'd only get 31 cents back.
9.69* I think you mean, but doesn't that also show up on your check? Cash tendered? Maybe not. I hardly carry or use cash anymore.
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Around here a chain called Wawa is immensely popular and they use the automatic change machines. I stop for breakfast basically every day, and will use many other locations at times. I take note of my change and it has never been incorrect.
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Side note but I love wawa, one of the things I miss from Florida.
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There's two wawa's near my house. Love them, but I really love Sheetz which is in PA.
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Status report: I tried paying with a $20 bill instead of a $10 bill today. The bill selection made no difference and I was shorted $0.02. I got undercover video evidence and will upload to Youtube once I'm home tonight.
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Is there by any chance a cone near this subway?
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Oh no! Subway is skimming customers! What on Earth are we going to do?
Subway is nasty. I am not sure the chicken is even real chicken. Gross.
Exactly!
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Status report: I tried paying with a $20 bill instead of a $10 bill today. The bill selection made no difference and I was shorted $0.02. I got undercover video evidence and will upload to Youtube once I'm home tonight.
:omg:
Is there by any chance a cone near this subway?
:lol
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Is there by any chance a cone near this subway?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Is there by any chance a cone near this subway?
:rollin :rollin
Fucking shoot us a warning before dropping gold like that bro...
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Just tried it.
Cashier manually gave me change. Didn't use that machine. No problems.
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I got shorted a quarter 3 times in a row by a live cashier a few years ago. Oh the injustice!!!!
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They put the machines in so the cashiers don't have to think. But machines aren't perfect either. What are we gonna do now? :justjen
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Definitely can't learn basic math.
Definitely not.
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Groundbreaking footage here folks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys9jnwA5YWg&feature=youtu.be
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Damn wind. :lol
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Damn wind. :lol
It blew my $10 away after that :lol
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Can't tell if there is a cone in the vicinity from the video
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Damn, we just went there tonight because I worked late and was starving. I didn't pay attention to it but next time I will. Dunkin donuts does this all the time and at the drive through they say "Do you really want your change?" No asshole, you keep it, think of it as a tip for not being able to consistently do anything other than mess up every order. I digress
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They put the machines in so the cashiers don't have to think.
Thank God for that.
I love the puzzled look on a cashier's face when your total is $4.77 and you give them a five dollar bill and two pennies. :lol :lol :lol
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It could be an Office Space kinda ploy from some laid-off Subway workers ;D
There was a similar thread a few days ago where I posted David Herman's character as a response to a skimming of pennies. That thread died, probably because Chino didn't start it.
Now we have machines because we don't need someone to deal with the god damn customers. Bob and Bob are smiling somewhere.
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It could be an Office Space kinda ploy from some laid-off Subway workers ;D
There was a similar thread a few days ago where I posted David Herman's character as a response to a skimming of pennies. That thread died, probably because Chino didn't start it.
I don't think it died. I think we're all just waiting for Tick to have any update of getting back at fast-food chains for ripping him off in change.
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Maybe pennies are phased out or are in the process?
I don't know where you live but here in Canada we dropped the penny a few years ago and now anything that's a cash sale will round up or down to the nearest nickel.
If it's a card transaction the amount will be exactly as shown.
Try using a card next time and see if it's the exact amount.
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Ummm... Chino...
Bad news.
I was skimming through your video and I found this:
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:lol
Maybe pennies are phased out or are in the process?
I don't know where you live but here in Canada we dropped the penny a few years ago and now anything that's a cash sale will round up or down to the nearest nickel.
If it's a card transaction the amount will be exactly as shown.
Try using a card next time and see if it's the exact amount.
Pennies are not being phased out yet, in his video it looks like he gets some pennies back.
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I'm surprised you even still use pennies there (actually, not really now that I think about it being the US and all). They ditched 1c and 2c coins 25 years ago here.
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I'm surprised you even still use pennies there (actually, not really now that I think about it being the US and all). They ditched 1c and 2c coins 25 years ago here.
The sole provider of zinc "penny blanks", Jarden Zinc Products of Greeneville, Tennessee, has hired lobbyists to make the case for preserving the penny and their sales. Jarden Zinc Products is the located within the Tennessee 1st United States House District and is currently represented within the U.S. House of Representatives by U.S. Rep. Phil Roe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_debate_in_the_United_States
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I'm surprised you even still use pennies there (actually, not really now that I think about it being the US and all). They ditched 1c and 2c coins 25 years ago here.
You take your Star Trek rhetoric elsewhere mister! :lol
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I'm surprised you even still use pennies there (actually, not really now that I think about it being the US and all). They ditched 1c and 2c coins 25 years ago here.
You take your Star Trek rhetoric elsewhere mister! :lol
If I was really here to peddle Star Trek ideals, I'd point out that they don't have money at all. :blob:
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I'm surprised you even still use pennies there (actually, not really now that I think about it being the US and all). They ditched 1c and 2c coins 25 years ago here.
You take your Star Trek rhetoric elsewhere mister! :lol
If I was really here to peddle Star Trek ideals, I'd point out that they don't have money at all. :blob:
First step my friend, first step.
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Some businesses actually conduct penniless transactions, and post it on the door. More should do this. That said, businesses should pull their collective heads out of their asses and just price things so that it's no longer necessary. If I ever open a business every item will be priced so that, including sales tax, the final price will end on a quarter. I've always been of the opinion that the fault lies with idiot consumers. People that'll drive one mile further to save 1¢ on a gallon of milk. "but it's only $2.49 across the street. We'll just go there when we leave."
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Some businesses actually conduct penniless transactions, and post it on the door. More should do this. That said, businesses should pull their collective heads out of their asses and just price things so that it's no longer necessary. If I ever open a business every item will be priced so that, including sales tax, the final price will end on a quarter. I've always been of the opinion that the fault lies with idiot consumers. People that'll drive one mile further to save 1¢ on a gallon of milk. "but it's only $2.49 across the street. We'll just go there when we leave."
While we are at it, can gas stations get rid of the 9/10? It doesn't fool anyone.
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They put the machines in so the cashiers don't have to think.
Thank God for that.
I love the puzzled look on a cashier's face when your total is $4.77 and you give them a five dollar bill and two pennies. :lol :lol :lol
Damn Kev that's mean, but still funny. :rollin
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Some businesses actually conduct penniless transactions, and post it on the door. More should do this. That said, businesses should pull their collective heads out of their asses and just price things so that it's no longer necessary. If I ever open a business every item will be priced so that, including sales tax, the final price will end on a quarter. I've always been of the opinion that the fault lies with idiot consumers. People that'll drive one mile further to save 1¢ on a gallon of milk. "but it's only $2.49 across the street. We'll just go there when we leave."
What if you open a butcher shop and stuff gets weighed out to three decimal places?
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Some businesses actually conduct penniless transactions, and post it on the door. More should do this. That said, businesses should pull their collective heads out of their asses and just price things so that it's no longer necessary. If I ever open a business every item will be priced so that, including sales tax, the final price will end on a quarter. I've always been of the opinion that the fault lies with idiot consumers. People that'll drive one mile further to save 1¢ on a gallon of milk. "but it's only $2.49 across the street. We'll just go there when we leave."
What if you open a butcher shop and stuff gets weighed out to three decimal places?
In the case of deli meats everybody gets what they want to a quarter pound. Decent people will usually do this anyway. Hell, if they can cut a slice for you to nosh on while they work, they can round total down in your favor. (Shitty places will always throw extra meat on and ask if that's alright. I've actually had some asshole nail his estimate to .4978, make one more slice, throw it on jacking it up to .57 and ask it it was OK. NO ASSHOLE!) Since butchers tend to cut their own roasts and steaks, they can cut them very close to a whole number weight and charge from there. You then have a bin of 6, 9, 12, and 15 dollar chuck roasts.
Or, better still, I just put a sign on the door that says "we round to the nearest quarter in your favor. If this is too confusing for you please shop at Krogers."
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I would put together a log (along with your video evidence) of every date, time, etc., it happens. Then after you have a couple weeks worth of entries, ask to speak to the manager. If they appear to dismiss it, turn your phone on, record the encounter, and press the issue, by pointing out how it is short changing you and you plan to call the owner (if it is a franchise) or corporate.
Because this is fraud, even if it is just a few cents. It adds up, and for sure you aren't the only one it is happening to. I'd be irate.
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I would put together a log (along with your video evidence) of every date, time, etc., it happens. Then after you have a couple weeks worth of entries, ask to speak to the manager. If they appear to dismiss it, turn your phone on, record the encounter, and press the issue, by pointing out how it is short changing you and you plan to call the owner (if it is a franchise) or corporate.
Because this is fraud, even if it is just a few cents. It adds up, and for sure you aren't the only one it is happening to. I'd be irate.
I actually wrote Subway this morning and sent them the video. Jared isn't using his lifetime of sandwiches card anymore. Maybe they'll give it to me.
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I would put together a log (along with your video evidence) of every date, time, etc., it happens. Then after you have a couple weeks worth of entries, ask to speak to the manager. If they appear to dismiss it, turn your phone on, record the encounter, and press the issue, by pointing out how it is short changing you and you plan to call the owner (if it is a franchise) or corporate.
Because this is fraud, even if it is just a few cents. It adds up, and for sure you aren't the only one it is happening to. I'd be irate.
I would hold off on the bolded part. It is illegal in many states to record someone without their consent. Check first before doing this.
But I agree in principle with what Samsara said.
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I would put together a log (along with your video evidence) of every date, time, etc., it happens. Then after you have a couple weeks worth of entries, ask to speak to the manager. If they appear to dismiss it, turn your phone on, record the encounter, and press the issue, by pointing out how it is short changing you and you plan to call the owner (if it is a franchise) or corporate.
Because this is fraud, even if it is just a few cents. It adds up, and for sure you aren't the only one it is happening to. I'd be irate.
I actually wrote Subway this morning and sent them the video. Jared isn't using his lifetime of sandwiches card anymore. Maybe they'll give it to me.
If this thread suddenly disappears or goes dark then we know Subway got to Chino and he is either dead or alive and well, but with free subway for life and never to speak of this issue again.
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I would put together a log (along with your video evidence) of every date, time, etc., it happens. Then after you have a couple weeks worth of entries, ask to speak to the manager. If they appear to dismiss it, turn your phone on, record the encounter, and press the issue, by pointing out how it is short changing you and you plan to call the owner (if it is a franchise) or corporate.
Because this is fraud, even if it is just a few cents. It adds up, and for sure you aren't the only one it is happening to. I'd be irate.
I would hold off on the bolded part. It is illegal in many states to record someone without their consent. Check first before doing this.
But I agree in principle with what Samsara said.
Good point. I forgot about that. :tup
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It's easy to forget in the age of cell phones when it is so convenient and easy to do. I wouldn't have thought about it if it wasn't something I have to deal with on the job.
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I take it, if someone is recorded without their consent, it's inadmissible in court. Good to know.
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What about recording everything but the manager's face? Sort of like how they fuzz out faces for people on TV when they didn't give consent to be on the show, yet they keep the audio and do similar to Chino's video where it really shows nothing besides the transaction?
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What about recording everything but the manager's face? Sort of like how they fuzz out faces for people on TV when they didn't give consent to be on the show, yet they keep the audio and do similar to Chino's video where it really shows nothing besides the transaction?
Ironically, it's not the face that would be problematic. Unless they advise "no video recording or photography" then there's probably nothing wrong with taking their picture. Recording a conversation is dicey because of old laws against wire tapping. It all goes back to recording phone calls. That's been a weird part about people filming Johnny going about his work beating and shooting. The videoing of it is fine, but in some states you can't record the audio without his consent.
And according to the law firm of Google and Associates Connecticut is a two party state. Both parties have to consent to the recording.
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I take it, if someone is recorded without their consent, it's inadmissible in court. Good to know.
Not only inadmissible. But the act of recording is a crime in some states. It isn't an issue of whether or not you can get the recording into evidence. It's an issue of going to jail for recording in the first place.
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Ok, I see what you're saying, but wouldn't the issue of recording in the first place have to go into evidence before someone goes to jail?
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No--at least, not in the way I think you are asking. If it is illegal in CT, for example, the store owner can forward Chino's video to the local PD, who then sends it to the D.A., who then tells the local PD to stop by Chino's house and pick him up if they want to charge him.
It's no different than if someone sees you commit any other crime and reports it.
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They put the machines in so the cashiers don't have to think.
Thank God for that.
I love the puzzled look on a cashier's face when your total is $4.77 and you give them a five dollar bill and two pennies. :lol :lol :lol
Damn Kev that's mean, but still funny. :rollin
I do that all the time. If I ever end up with pennies in my pocket as change from somewhere, I'll take the next opportunity to get rid of them, for the simple reason that vending machines don't take pennies. They are therefore useless.
The best thing isn't even the puzzled look when you give them enough pennies to make it come out to an even quarter, or dime, or even a nickel. It's the surprised look when they punch in how much you gave them, and the machine tells them the amount of change to give. I've even been asked more than once "How did you do that?"
Do what? Perform 3rd grade arithmetic?
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They put the machines in so the cashiers don't have to think.
Thank God for that.
I love the puzzled look on a cashier's face when your total is $4.77 and you give them a five dollar bill and two pennies. :lol :lol :lol
Damn Kev that's mean, but still funny. :rollin
I do that all the time. If I ever end up with pennies in my pocket as change from somewhere, I'll take the next opportunity to get rid of them, for the simple reason that vending machines don't take pennies. They are therefore useless.
The best thing isn't even the puzzled look when you give them enough pennies to make it come out to an even quarter, or dime, or even a nickel. It's the surprised look when they punch in how much you gave them, and the machine tells them the amount of change to give. I've even been asked more than once "How did you do that?"
Do what? Perform 3rd grade arithmetic?
On the rare occasion I pay with cash I'll usually leave the pennies on the counter or in the dispenser. My version of take a penny, leave a penny.
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Ya know, you saying pennies are useless had me thinking, well no they aren't. You can save them up and go to one of those coin machines at TD bank to get cash.... then remembered. TD bank stopped using those machines.... because it was short counting coins!
https://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2017/06/coin-counting_machine_users_could_get_payouts_in_c.html (https://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2017/06/coin-counting_machine_users_could_get_payouts_in_c.html)
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Ya know, you saying pennies are useless had me thinking, well no they aren't. You can save them up and go to one of those coin machines at TD bank to get cash.... then remembered. TD bank stopped using those machines.... because it was short counting coins!
https://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2017/06/coin-counting_machine_users_could_get_payouts_in_c.html (https://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2017/06/coin-counting_machine_users_could_get_payouts_in_c.html)
I save all my change and cash it in once per year. I roll it the old fashioned way and bring it to a bank. Usually I get a few hundred bucks for fireworks for the Fourth of July, but this year I'm putting it toward our Pandora - The Land of Avatar vacation in September. I should have about $350 to put toward that trip.
My father has been saving his change since the year I was born (1988). He is just shy of $15k :lol
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Wow. I used to go to the coin machine in TD bank once my jar filled (around $100) and that same jar is filled, but am waiting for a rainy day when I want to cash that out. I hardly spend cash anymore to accumulate coins so it's really potentially the last time that jar fills up.
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I got back into the habit of carrying cash around with me because a surprising number of places to eat in Hartford only take cash or have a $10 credit card minimum.
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My last three cars have been paid for in part by accumulated change. Between 33-50%, in fact. However, only silver change. Fuck the brown kind. I throw that in a different jar and dump it in a coinstar from time to time.
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My last three cars have been paid for in part by accumulated change. Between 33-50%, in fact. However, only silver change. Fuck the brown kind. I throw that in a different jar and dump it in a coinstar from time to time.
Before I went to C.C. and then to the App, I bought my DD coffee with change all the time.
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At the last place I worked, the cafeteria had "penniless" cash registers, always rounding up or down to the nearest nickel. So I got into the habit of dropping silver into one bowl and pennies into another at the end of the day when I emptied my pockets. We were in that building nearly 10 years, during which time I filled a huge cup with pennies.
They moved us to a different building a while back, and the cafeteria here is exact change. I keep a small stash of pennies in my desk at work, and grab a dozen or so pennies from the big cup every couple of days, and always use them at lunchtime. I'm actually bummed when the total comes out to a multiple of five or 10 because I can't get rid of any pennies. But I've worked the big cup down about 10%. It's gonna take a while, but I'm spending those suckers.
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Ya know, you saying pennies are useless had me thinking, well no they aren't. You can save them up and go to one of those coin machines at TD bank to get cash.... then remembered. TD bank stopped using those machines.... because it was short counting coins!
https://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2017/06/coin-counting_machine_users_could_get_payouts_in_c.html (https://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2017/06/coin-counting_machine_users_could_get_payouts_in_c.html)
A bank being unscrupulous? Next you are going to tell water is wet.
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Justice!
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I'm not going to accept the free sandwich. I requested that he give it to the girl that deals with me everyday. She does a good job, and I can't envision a scenario where I only get a 6" sandwich.
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Not going to take the 6 free inches Brian? :neverusethis:
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Free 6 inch? That sounds lame honestly. At least make it a footlong.
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Seriously. You've exposed an ongoing issue where he's ripping people off, whether intentional or not, and he offers you half a sandwich?
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Eh, if he's just some random franchisee then he's actually going above and beyond by offering anything. Chino didn't say if it was the franchisee of the location in question, though. In any case, I agree with him. The organization of such a thing would be too complex and involve too many people to keep up.
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Eh, if he's just some random franchisee then he's actually going above and beyond by offering anything. Chino didn't say if it was the franchisee of the location in question, though. In any case, I agree with him. The organization of such a thing would be too complex and involve too many people to keep up.
He said he was a small business owner. I think he might own the franchise.
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Eh, if he's just some random franchisee then he's actually going above and beyond by offering anything. Chino didn't say if it was the franchisee of the location in question, though. In any case, I agree with him. The organization of such a thing would be too complex and involve too many people to keep up.
Sure, but Chino just saved the guy a potential lawsuit by pointing out the penny pinching scheme (intentional or not) in a nice manner. A 6 inch sub at value of under $5 seems like a slap in the face to me. If I had interest in pursuing anything legal, that would only push me further to do it.
Also, as someone pointed out with register counting, someone should know this is happening, assuming it is beyond the one time Chino goes daily. I'm sure a cashier wouldn't care about a penny or two over the count, but that, in theory, should add up to something someone should of noticed. Once again, assuming this is more than just a Chino thing.
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Some businesses actually conduct penniless transactions, and post it on the door. More should do this. That said, businesses should pull their collective heads out of their asses and just price things so that it's no longer necessary. If I ever open a business every item will be priced so that, including sales tax, the final price will end on a quarter. I've always been of the opinion that the fault lies with idiot consumers. People that'll drive one mile further to save 1¢ on a gallon of milk. "but it's only $2.49 across the street. We'll just go there when we leave."
What if you open a butcher shop and stuff gets weighed out to three decimal places?
In the case of deli meats everybody gets what they want to a quarter pound. Decent people will usually do this anyway. Hell, if they can cut a slice for you to nosh on while they work, they can round total down in your favor. (Shitty places will always throw extra meat on and ask if that's alright. I've actually had some asshole nail his estimate to .4978, make one more slice, throw it on jacking it up to .57 and ask it it was OK. NO ASSHOLE!) Since butchers tend to cut their own roasts and steaks, they can cut them very close to a whole number weight and charge from there. You then have a bin of 6, 9, 12, and 15 dollar chuck roasts.
Or, better still, I just put a sign on the door that says "we round to the nearest quarter in your favor. If this is too confusing for you please shop at Krogers."
I LOVE when I order a half pound of something and it comes to 0.55 or some shit. I feel like it's Christmas come early (even though I know in my head I'm paying for it)!
As for the other stuff, those places aren't building up their pricing from the ground up like a manufacturer would. You can't tell me that EVERY butcher's overhead is such that the meat ALWAYS comes out to $x.99 a pound. They don't need to weigh it that exactly, and even if they have to weigh it that close (for inventory, maybe) then the price can be a sliding scale rounded.
Most places bigger than a mom and pop don't "build" pricing anyway; it's a market driven price, meaning, there is no connection between the price charged and the cost of the goods sold. They're not charging $x.99 per pound because it's what they need to charge to make overhead; they charge that because that's what the market will bear. That's not the case with every product (commodities, for example) but it is with enough to make el Barto's plan work.
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I would put together a log (along with your video evidence) of every date, time, etc., it happens. Then after you have a couple weeks worth of entries, ask to speak to the manager. If they appear to dismiss it, turn your phone on, record the encounter, and press the issue, by pointing out how it is short changing you and you plan to call the owner (if it is a franchise) or corporate.
Because this is fraud, even if it is just a few cents. It adds up, and for sure you aren't the only one it is happening to. I'd be irate.
I actually wrote Subway this morning and sent them the video. Jared isn't using his lifetime of sandwiches card anymore. Maybe they'll give it to me.
If this thread suddenly disappears or goes dark then we know Subway got to Chino and he is either dead or alive and well, but with free subway for life and never to speak of this issue again.
No, we'll read about him in the papers. They'll frame him like they framed Jared. Plant photos on his computer. :)
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No--at least, not in the way I think you are asking. If it is illegal in CT, for example, the store owner can forward Chino's video to the local PD, who then sends it to the D.A., who then tells the local PD to stop by Chino's house and pick him up if they want to charge him.
It's no different than if someone sees you commit any other crime and reports it.
This. When I was going through my divorce I wanted SO BADLY to record my ex on the phone, and I couldn't. My thought was, I KNOW it would be inadmissible, but I could use it as negotiation leverage. I was advised in no uncertain terms to fantasize about other ways of getting one over on her. At one point, my attorney said (nicely) "You're going to want to stop talking about that idea."
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My last three cars have been paid for in part by accumulated change. Between 33-50%, in fact. However, only silver change. Fuck the brown kind. I throw that in a different jar and dump it in a coinstar from time to time.
Racist.
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I got back into the habit of carrying cash around with me because a surprising number of places to eat in Hartford only take cash or have a $10 credit card minimum.
I did that in Philly, and you'd be surprised at how much LESS you spend when you can't just "whip out the card" and pay that way.
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My last three cars have been paid for in part by accumulated change. Between 33-50%, in fact. However, only silver change. Fuck the brown kind. I throw that in a different jar and dump it in a coinstar from time to time.
Racist.
:rollin
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I went to Subway yesterday and had this thread in mind while paying. I didn't get shortchanged by the change dispenser at all. Strange.
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I never use cash anymore.
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I never have cash anymore.
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So I went to Wawa this morning. Typically I just get gas on my way to work, but was pretty hungry and decided to go inside for a breakfast sandwich and coffee. They use similar (or maybe the same) type of coin return at the register as Subway.... well I was shorted 1 penny :lol I was about to pay credit until I realized I could do this test and paid attention to the change and my receipt. Yup should have gotten 36 cents but only got 35.
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Is it possible that they just run out of pennies all the time? Thanks to our idiocy there will almost always be multiple pennies dispensed every transaction. Unlike, say, nickles or dimes. And a store like Subway is going through a helluva lot of transactions an hour. You'd think the thing would refuse to operate if it were short some coin, but you never know.