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Title: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 20, 2017, 06:40:47 PM
I am utterly fascinated by ghost stories. I don't know if I believe in them, I really don't know. So I was just curious what everyone thought on the subject.

Even in my own family. My regular uncle claims his house is haunted (as do his kids and girlfriend). My great uncle swears the house he had in his 30s was haunted and my entire family claims my great grandmother's house is haunted, but I have yet to ever experience anything to corroborate any of this.

So, have you ever experienced ghost activity and what's your story?
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2017, 05:21:06 AM
Mostly smells and sounds.  Sometimes I/my wife catch like a shadow of movement out of the corner of our eye (and by "sometimes" I mean like once/year at best).  Doesn't need to be in our house.  After we had to put our dog (#2) down last year, for months I regularly felt/sensed that there was something behind me and dog #1 when we went for walks.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Logain Ablar on June 21, 2017, 06:12:29 AM
I don't really believe in ghosts myself, but like you I find this kind of thing interesting.

The thing that bothers me with these ghost hunting shows is, why do the ghosts never show up in the daytime? Why is it always in the dead of night in some spooky old house? I think probably human senses and imagination play into it as well. Like, if one sense is temporarily disabled (sight), do we overcompensate with the others, and fool our brains into imagining things that aren't there? Dunno..

Still, in these days of Google and instant information, it's pretty cool to think that there's stuff out there that still can't be explained.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on June 21, 2017, 06:39:45 AM
Yes.

Having said that, I think most of the "ghost activity" we see on TV is bogus.  I do think there is something to the idea in general though.

(Fun fact:   The Warrens - the couple at the heart of "The Conjuring" movies - used to come speak at my school when I was in middle school and elementary school.  We lived in the same town.)
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Zook on June 21, 2017, 07:17:08 AM
No. My Fiancée has, but I don't believe her. I'm not saying she's lying, but I don't think what she claims to have seen is anything supernatural.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: AngelBack on June 21, 2017, 07:22:52 AM
Well, I completely believe in a spiritual world with entities that are not bound by the laws our physical world.  And I believe these entities at times cross the plane to our world.  However, I dont believe in the Hollywood version of ghosts.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: MirrorMask on June 21, 2017, 07:39:10 AM
No. My girlfriend has, but I don't believe her. I'm not saying she's lying, but I don't think what she claims to have seen is anything supernatural.

Well, you summed up my thoughts on the issue basically. There are many loons out there, but I believe there are as well many sincere people who truly experience something they can't explain, and they / we don't have the means to give a proper explanation.

I never really had ghost experiences, mainly a "UFO" one - and by UFO I mean the literal defition of the term, a flying object I couldn't identify.

Me and my cousin as kids saw it - it was mainly a normal looking plane, but with three lights - a central one, firm, and the lateral ones that were symmetrically going forward and back in relation to the main axis of the plane, the one where the fixed light was.

Of course I don't take it as a "proof" that it was an alien spaceship or whatever. But I still don't know what the hell that was, as mundane the explanation surely was.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Tick on June 21, 2017, 08:25:40 AM
Well, I completely believe in a spiritual world with entities that are not bound by the laws our physical world.  And I believe these entities at times cross the plane to our world.  However, I dont believe in the Hollywood version of ghosts.
What exactly is Hollywood's version?

Most people here know I saw a flying saucer up close and personal.

My mom experienced some supernatural stuff, as has my wife. I 100% believe them both.

I have personally never encountered the supernatural except to say I took pictures at night in the famed Union Cemetery in Easton Connecticut and to my shock when the film was developed one of the pictures caught an old man standing next to one of the trees. His face was clear as day. My wife was so freaked out she insisted we throw the pictures out as she did not want them in the house.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: bosk1 on June 21, 2017, 08:27:56 AM
Mostly just lens flares.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Tick on June 21, 2017, 08:31:01 AM
Mostly just lens flares.
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Bosk, you son of a bitch
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: bosk1 on June 21, 2017, 08:33:27 AM
:rollin

Couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: AngelBack on June 21, 2017, 08:33:47 AM
Well, I completely believe in a spiritual world with entities that are not bound by the laws our physical world.  And I believe these entities at times cross the plane to our world.  However, I dont believe in the Hollywood version of ghosts.
What exactly is Hollywood's version?

Most people here know I saw a flying saucer up close and personal.

My mom experienced some supernatural stuff, as has my wife. I 100% believe them both.

I have personally never encountered the supernatural except to say I took pictures at night in the famed Union Cemetery in Easton Connecticut and to my shock when the film was developed one of the pictures caught an old man standing next to one of the trees. His face was clear as day. My wife was so freaked out she insisted we throw the pictures out as she did not want them in the house.

The malevolent spirit of a dead human with unfinished business here.  Wreaking havoc on those who wronged it in a previous life or on an unsuspecting group of folks.  But I guess there are other versions of "ghosts" like that Demi Moore movie or "Wonderful Life".  I believe if there are spirit beings they probably serve a greater purpose than revenge or getting closure in some way for a previous life.  A higher calling if you will.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Chino on June 21, 2017, 08:38:31 AM
The mind is extremely susceptible to hallucination.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Tick on June 21, 2017, 08:52:13 AM
The mind is extremely susceptible to hallucination.
For sure. That's why even the most renowned (legitimate) paranormal investigators do the research they do before coming to a conclusion.

Of coarse the other thing is, the supernatural is big business and makes shit tons on money so there is a lot of prefabricated phony bullshit out there on all the ghost hunter shows, and all the dramatization paranormal  shows as well.

That doesn't mean that everything is fake, but he tends to make a lot of folks it is.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on June 21, 2017, 10:37:24 AM
Mostly just lens flares.

(https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/272/322/262.jpg)



My parents say they have seen ghosts in the home I grew up in, but in 14 years of living there, I never once experienced anything of the sort.  And I hope that I do not.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2017, 10:44:54 AM
My mother believed our previous house was haunted, as did apparently someone else who lived there before us. I never witnessed anything, but given that the house was old as shit and was demolished soon after we moved out suggests to me that any "ghost" activity was likely due to the shitty state of the house and possibly rodents.

I don't believe any of that stuff. It's only human nature to want to understand and explain what we experience, and certain reasons are much easier and convenient to accept when we lack the understanding or knowledge to recognize the truth of the matter. It's been happening since the dawn of man, and will continue until we die out (probably due to the apes conquering us, and they'll outlaw the pursuit of truth because it will uncover the ugly truth that humans once ruled the planet). The human mind is basically a gooey piece of shit that can't be trusted for shit.

Also, it was definitely lens flares.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Prog Snob on June 21, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
I started a thread like this not too long ago.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45854.msg2093990#msg2093990

I definitely believe in ghosts and supernatural occurrences. I've had a few experiences myself, including a few with a Ouija Board. I am, or was, a practicing demonolater and my first time using the board to call on a demon was more intense of an experience than I was expecting. I wrote out what I remembered of it and put it away for safekeeping.

Besides those with the Ouija Board I had a few other instances where there was definitely something in a room with me or touching me. I could feel the pressure of something and it wasn't just my imagination.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: TioJorge on June 22, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
I think it's a fantastic point of entertainment and a really great facet of human imagination.

Nope.

As a child I'd have told you I absolutely had experienced them. As an adult who has experienced actual terror and horror from the real world...ghosts are a nice getaway.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: lonestar on June 22, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
Mostly just lens flares.
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Bosk, you son of a bitch

First thing I thought of when I saw the thread title.


I actually work in a hotel that is noted for ghost encounters, one by Tim Duncan that made papers nationwide, but even after thirteen years there, I have yet to come across anything spooky. I did name my ghost pepper chili sauce after the room that he saw it in though, for a while we had the Room 442 sauce.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: DebraKadabra on June 23, 2017, 02:05:35 AM
Well, I completely believe in a spiritual world with entities that are not bound by the laws our physical world.  And I believe these entities at times cross the plane to our world.  However, I dont believe in the Hollywood version of ghosts.

Pretty much this.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Prog Snob on June 23, 2017, 05:06:44 AM
Well, I completely believe in a spiritual world with entities that are not bound by the laws our physical world.  And I believe these entities at times cross the plane to our world.  However, I dont believe in the Hollywood version of ghosts.

Pretty much this.

The Hollywood version of anything is questionable. :lol
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on June 23, 2017, 08:06:26 AM
Well, I completely believe in a spiritual world with entities that are not bound by the laws our physical world.  And I believe these entities at times cross the plane to our world.  However, I dont believe in the Hollywood version of ghosts.

Pretty much this.

The Hollywood version of anything is questionable. :lol

Except Margot Robbie.

Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: cramx3 on June 23, 2017, 11:05:34 AM
I feel like I'm on the borderline. I lived in an apartment with my x for a few years.  She would always say there was a ghost or spirit or something there.  One night I woke up and looked over at her and her eyes were wide open staring at the ceiling.  I thought it was weird but fell back asleep.  She told me the next morning she felt like a ghost was hovering over her during the night.  I essentially kept all my personal feelings about this to myself and always said there was no ghost.  However, I very often would hear things in our kitchen late at night.  I never told her any of that because I didn't want to freak her out any more.  It was all pretty much a non issue so I didn't want to feed into it and make it a problem for our living situation.  But I couldn't help but think that I did experience a few things that I found to be odd, almost always around 3am (I used to work till midnight in those days so being up late while she was sleeping was normal).

I'm pretty glad that I have not experienced anything odd in my current living situation.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Podaar on June 23, 2017, 11:43:51 AM
No.

But when I was 22 I dated a woman who I swear had a prehensile clitoris. It would have been really spooky if it didn't feel so goddamned good.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Mr. Beale on June 24, 2017, 09:00:36 PM
There was one summer I worked at a place that had a kitchen/dining area that I often felt like I was being watched or kept thinking I saw something in the corner of my eye, only to find no one was there. It was only after working there for a couple months that I found out that that was a common thing in that room and that some people thought it was haunted. Was it actually something supernatural or was there just something funky about the layout of that room? I liked reading about spooks as a kid but I'm pretty skeptical that there's spirits that have nothing better to do than hang around buildings. Still, I've never been completely closed to the idea that there's something more to some paranormal happenings than just wild imagination.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Ħ on June 27, 2017, 11:33:22 PM
Nothing. My mom says she once turned on the sink and all this thick dark liquid came out. She turned off the sink, looked up, looked down, turned the sink on again, but only water came out this time. I guess I don't have any reason to disbelieve her story, although it could easily have been a hallucination, so I suspend judgment.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Adami on June 27, 2017, 11:36:55 PM
Nothing. My mom says she once turned on the sink and all this thick dark liquid came out. She turned off the sink, looked up, looked down, turned the sink on again, but only water came out this time. I guess I don't have any reason to disbelieve her story, although it could easily have been a hallucination, so I suspend judgment.

Could have been bad pipes. Those things happen.

Now if it happened in the bath tub and tried to grab you as a baby.....
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: cramx3 on June 28, 2017, 08:10:43 AM
Yea, that's normal if the water line had been turned off to your house for maintenance or something.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: JLa on June 30, 2017, 01:09:43 AM
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Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: lucky7 on July 10, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
The night before my Dad passed (in 92) I saw my Nan, who had passed five years earlier, it was over in ten seconds. I was 16 at the time, ran out and told my Mum who was still up (dad had gone to bed already), she told me go back to bed, thinking I must have dreamt it, the next morning Dad was gone sometime during the night, he was 46, had not been sick, he passed from cardiomyopathy, we found out months later.

Years later, about 18 years to be exact, I was living in an old house, I woke up in the middle of the night, to see a lady standing in my bedroom door, my rush to turn on the bedside light meant I took my eyes off her, in that time gone. Later I realized I could see her plain as day in a white dress with blonde hair, in the dark...

Both experiences were very quick, not longer than about 10-15 seconds each, felt like eternity at the time.
I understand people's scepticism, but even I could not have predicted my Dad passing, hell of a coincidence.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 12, 2018, 06:43:54 PM
As a kid, I was always fascinated with ouija boards, but my grandmother was like "Hell no"

Anyone ever mess around with one as a kid or adult. And if so, did you ever get any interesting results?
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: ChuckSteak on April 13, 2018, 04:34:08 AM
Nope, and even if I had witnessed something completely unnatural, I wouldn't immediately call it "ghost activity". How can you name something that you don't understand yourself? Didn't primitive people call rain an act of god? Or thunder means that the gods are angry? It's the same thing with "ghost activity".
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on April 13, 2018, 08:22:56 AM
As a kid, I was always fascinated with ouija boards, but my grandmother was like "Hell no"

Anyone ever mess around with one as a kid or adult. And if so, did you ever get any interesting results?

I remember being in high school, and at a party at a friend's house.  Quick stereotype:  a good guy, he was not the brightest bulb on the tree, he was a hard-drinking Irish Catholic from Philly, and all that comes with it (superstitious, temper, ready to fight, etc...).   One of our girl friends was there.  I took her to the prom (as friends), but my friend and her had something on and off; they were trouble together - she was an instigator and he fell for it every single time.

Anyway, a Ouiji board came out.  He said no way, not in my house.   She said why not, it'll be fun, he said no, finally agreeing to having it in the dining room.  I never went in there, didn't partake at all, but about half an hour later, she comes running out white as a ghost, something about her grandmother, blah blah blah.  My friend is half in the bag, and falls for it again (not the 'grandmother thing' but letting the girl talk him into coming into the dining room).   Again, about a half an hour later, there is shouting and crashing, and he's throwing the board across the room screaming "not in my house! not in my house!"... to this day I don't know what he saw/heard in that session, but it freaked him out for a LONG time whatever it was.   Maybe the others in the room were fucking with him, I don't know but it was SOMETHING, and he never spoke about it again.   I asked the girl a couple times, and all she would say was she wasn't playing any games and if he wanted to tell me he will.   
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on April 13, 2018, 08:25:12 AM
I don't know if it's "ghost activity" or not, but I saw Theresa Caputo ("The Long Island Medium") last week and it was fascinating.   Most of her gig is schtick, but there was enough there that was "how did she DO that?" that it's something to think about.   
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: MirrorMask on April 13, 2018, 09:22:37 AM
Quick stereotype:  a good guy, he was not the brightest bulb on the tree, he was a hard-drinking Irish Catholic from Philly, and all that comes with it (superstitious, temper, ready to fight, etc...).

[...]

Again, about a half an hour later, there is shouting and crashing, and he's throwing the board across the room screaming "not in my house! not in my house!"... to this day I don't know what he saw/heard in that session, but it freaked him out for a LONG time whatever it was. 

Well, not to be so quick to pass judgement on situations and persons I don't know, but.... I would assume he was suggestible.

I would never play with that thing however. I listen to Dio's advice, namely the song Too Late from Dehumanizer. My approach to this stuff is "If it's all fake, what's the point of doing it, and if there's something there - and by "Something" I don't mean ghosts or spirits, but the still vastly unknown way one of the most complex machines in the entire world, the human brain, works - why taking the risk to awaken something that isn't even there, but our brain could react to?
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: The Walrus on April 13, 2018, 10:32:22 AM
I haven't, no. Closest is experiencing true sleep paralysis and seeing a ghostlike figure staring at me from the shadows, but that's it. No laughing children bouncing a ball in the hallway for me
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Chino on April 13, 2018, 10:46:57 AM
I haven't, no. Closest is experiencing true sleep paralysis and seeing a ghostlike figure staring at me from the shadows, but that's it. No laughing children bouncing a ball in the hallway for me

I used to have ISP really bad as a kid. Absolutely terrible. To this day, if I fall asleep on my back with during the day time it's almost guaranteed to trigger an episode. It's really weird. The nighttime episodes are rarer these days, but still happen often enough. Over the years I've figured out a process of getting myself to snap out of it that begins with the jaw, then the knuckles, and then the tongue. If I can get my self to concentrate on those things in that order, I can usually snap myself out of an episode within 10-20 seconds.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: ganpondorodf on April 13, 2018, 12:39:18 PM
I haven't, no. Closest is experiencing true sleep paralysis and seeing a ghostlike figure staring at me from the shadows, but that's it. No laughing children bouncing a ball in the hallway for me

I used to have ISP really bad as a kid. Absolutely terrible. To this day, if I fall asleep on my back with during the day time it's almost guaranteed to trigger an episode. It's really weird. The nighttime episodes are rarer these days, but still happen often enough. Over the years I've figured out a process of getting myself to snap out of it that begins with the jaw, then the knuckles, and then the tongue. If I can get my self to concentrate on those things in that order, I can usually snap myself out of an episode within 10-20 seconds.

Dunno if it's a related thing, but sometimes I know I'm dreaming and try to wake myself up by thrashing around. I'll wake up having almost flung myself out of bed
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: AngelBack on April 13, 2018, 01:40:42 PM
I've tried conjuring up a succubus a few times, no luck to date...
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Architeuthis on April 17, 2018, 01:19:25 AM
It is past midnight and I'm reading this thread in a dark bedroom.  I read all of page 1 in this thread and at about this time, my dog started acting up for no reason and suddenly jumped off the bed. Dangit, now I'm spooked..   :o
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Grappler on April 17, 2018, 06:27:44 AM
Never experienced a ghost event, but I do believe in contact from beyond.  Just before I got married, I stopped at the cemetery where my grandma was buried.  I hadn't been there in 12 years since her funeral - we were always close with her, and she'd come with us on so many road trips and summer vacations.  It was mother's day, so I thought I'd stop and visit since I was driving by to visit my parents.  I called my mom to ask where here grave was.  Immediately as I find it, the sky opens and it starts raining.  I got my umbrella out of the car and stood there for a bit, talking to my grandma about everything that had happened in 12 years of my life, and was going to happen with my upcoming wedding.

As I turned around to leave and walk over to my car, the rain stopped.  That was so much like my grandma - she was mad at me for not having visited her for so long, so she made sure it rained on me the entire time I was there.   I truly believe that she did that.  :lol 
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: AngelBack on April 17, 2018, 07:27:20 AM
The thought of there NOT being a "spirit" world that transcends the natural world we live in would be incredibly depressing.  If there was a big accidental explosion 14 billion years ago that will one day wind down and end in nothing more would be the most incredible waste imaginable.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: MirrorMask on April 17, 2018, 07:48:32 AM
The thought of there NOT being a "spirit" world that transcends the natural world we live in would be incredibly depressing.  If there was a big accidental explosion 14 billion years ago that will one day wind down and end in nothing more would be the most incredible waste imaginable.

Well, do you know what sucks even more? not having been existed at all in the first place. As one can learn from Richard Dawkins' quote at the end of Nightwish's The Greatest Show on Earth, the set of possible DNA combinations vastly outnumbers the set of actual people existing or having existed. We won the cosmic lottery of existance, one day it most likely will end forever, so what? we were still around to see it all. And for the record, you haven't existed for 14 billions of years, did it bother you that much all those eons you didn't exist since you were eventually born?  :D

I think there can be beauty, and sense, even in front of "cosmic accidents" such as the Big Bang. Love? chemical reactions in the brain, a natural instict of reproduction. Northern lights? it's cosmic winds and radiations. Sunsets and sunrises? it's just our little planet turning around towards that gigantic ball of fire that one day will kill us all. So what. It's all still beautiful and there for us to be enjoyed. Leonardo and everyone who ever lived at his time died, but we still have his masterpieces.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: AngelBack on April 17, 2018, 08:44:33 AM
The thought of there NOT being a "spirit" world that transcends the natural world we live in would be incredibly depressing.  If there was a big accidental explosion 14 billion years ago that will one day wind down and end in nothing more would be the most incredible waste imaginable.

Well, do you know what sucks even more? not having been existed at all in the first place. As one can learn from Richard Dawkins' quote at the end of Nightwish's The Greatest Show on Earth, the set of possible DNA combinations vastly outnumbers the set of actual people existing or having existed. We won the cosmic lottery of existance, one day it most likely will end forever, so what? we were still around to see it all. And for the record, you haven't existed for 14 billions of years, did it bother you that much all those eons you didn't exist since you were eventually born?  :D

I think there can be beauty, and sense, even in front of "cosmic accidents" such as the Big Bang. Love? chemical reactions in the brain, a natural instict of reproduction. Northern lights? it's cosmic winds and radiations. Sunsets and sunrises? it's just our little planet turning around towards that gigantic ball of fire that one day will kill us all. So what. It's all still beautiful and there for us to be enjoyed. Leonardo and everyone who ever lived at his time died, but we still have his masterpieces.

In my concept of a "spirit" realm, time and the physical world are temporary constructs that serve some larger purpose.  In a universe that sprang from nothing and returns to nothing I tend to look at the bottom line.  If when the last atom ceases motion it's all done then it was all in vain and nothing ever mattered.  Good, evil, beauty, ugly all are at that point subjective and the "beautiful sunset" is no prettier than a cancerous lung.  If it all ends, then in effect it never happened.  If nothing endures to recognize what happened, there is no way to prove it ever did happen. 
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: rumborak on April 17, 2018, 09:56:18 AM
The thought of there NOT being a "spirit" world that transcends the natural world we live in would be incredibly depressing.  If there was a big accidental explosion 14 billion years ago that will one day wind down and end in nothing more would be the most incredible waste imaginable.

I have heard/read this kind of notion before, but I really can't understand it. To me cosmology is one of the most engrossing and beautiful things to think about. It's a dance of physical laws that has been going on for 13 billion years, producing stars, making them explode, and in turn producing the atoms that made our lives possible. Clouds of gas slowly coalesce into rotating lumps that become planets etc etc.
In comparison I don't quite see the allure of some hypothetical "ghost realm". It always smells a bit of "this place sucks, I want something else".
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Chino on April 17, 2018, 10:19:08 AM
The thought of there NOT being a "spirit" world that transcends the natural world we live in would be incredibly depressing.  If there was a big accidental explosion 14 billion years ago that will one day wind down and end in nothing more would be the most incredible waste imaginable.

The fact that 14B years of cosmic evolution lead to me getting an opportunity to experience the universe is incredibly satisfying. I'd rather get a few dozen years as a meat coated skeleton hitching a ride around a star than never having experienced consciousness.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on April 17, 2018, 10:44:35 AM
The thought of there NOT being a "spirit" world that transcends the natural world we live in would be incredibly depressing.  If there was a big accidental explosion 14 billion years ago that will one day wind down and end in nothing more would be the most incredible waste imaginable.

I have heard/read this kind of notion before, but I really can't understand it. To me cosmology is one of the most engrossing and beautiful things to think about. It's a dance of physical laws that has been going on for 13 billion years, producing stars, making them explode, and in turn producing the atoms that made our lives possible. Clouds of gas slowly coalesce into rotating lumps that become planets etc etc.
In comparison I don't quite see the allure of some hypothetical "ghost realm". It always smells a bit of "this place sucks, I want something else".

Can't they both be true? 
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: rumborak on April 17, 2018, 12:05:51 PM
well, one *is* true for sure, the other is more a question of belief. But that's not what I was commenting on, AngelBack's comment seemed to indicate that the physical view is somehow bereft of value or beauty. I can definitely say that understanding cosmology has given me great satisfaction and has never lacked meaning.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on April 17, 2018, 01:05:20 PM
It's a quibble, but I think the best you can say here is that "one has far more discrete empirical and theoretical evidence supporting it."
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: chknptpie on April 17, 2018, 01:12:28 PM
Nope. My husband thinks we have a ghost and I think that's just f'n silly.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Tick on April 17, 2018, 01:41:21 PM
Nope. My husband thinks we have a ghost and I think that's just f'n silly.
Well, why does he think that?
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: rumborak on April 17, 2018, 08:43:08 PM
It's a quibble, but I think the best you can say here is that "one has far more discrete empirical and theoretical evidence supporting it."

That's the kind of relativization of fact vs opinion that got us into our current quagmire of fake news though. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: chknptpie on April 18, 2018, 07:29:38 AM
Nope. My husband thinks we have a ghost and I think that's just f'n silly.
Well, why does he think that?
Because he took out the trash and when he came back in he didn't remember putting another liner it. So it had to be a ghost....
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Chino on April 18, 2018, 07:32:00 AM
Nope. My husband thinks we have a ghost and I think that's just f'n silly.
Well, why does he think that?
Because he took out the trash and when he came back in he didn't remember putting another liner it. So it had to be a ghost....

I love how so many ghost stories involve something like that, a light being turned off, a faucet being turned on, or a door being opened. If these ghosts can interact with the matter of the physical world, why are they doing cryptic stuff like that? Why not pick up a pen and write me a note?
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on April 18, 2018, 07:37:16 AM
Nope. My husband thinks we have a ghost and I think that's just f'n silly.
Well, why does he think that?
Because he took out the trash and when he came back in he didn't remember putting another liner it. So it had to be a ghost....

You're married to Ozzy?   That's pretty cool. 
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on April 18, 2018, 07:38:21 AM
Nope. My husband thinks we have a ghost and I think that's just f'n silly.
Well, why does he think that?
Because he took out the trash and when he came back in he didn't remember putting another liner it. So it had to be a ghost....

I love how so many ghost stories involve something like that, a light being turned off, a faucet being turned on, or a door being opened. If these ghosts can interact with the matter of the physical world, why are they doing cryptic stuff like that? Why not pick up a pen and write me a note?

Just know that that's validation that they are here, they are with us, and they approve of what you're doing....


... says Theresa Caputo EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE. of Long Island Medium. 
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: MirrorMask on April 18, 2018, 07:52:06 AM
I love how so many ghost stories involve something like that, a light being turned off, a faucet being turned on, or a door being opened. If these ghosts can interact with the matter of the physical world, why are they doing cryptic stuff like that? Why not pick up a pen and write me a note?

Because they're dicks.  :biggrin: they're like the devil, why possess, say, the President of the Unites States and launch a nuclear war when you can possess a random dude and make him speak gibberish instead?
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: AngelBack on April 18, 2018, 08:19:38 AM
I love how so many ghost stories involve something like that, a light being turned off, a faucet being turned on, or a door being opened. If these ghosts can interact with the matter of the physical world, why are they doing cryptic stuff like that? Why not pick up a pen and write me a note?

Because they're dicks.  :biggrin: they're like the devil, why possess, say, the President of the Unites States and launch a nuclear war when you can possess a random dude and make him speak gibberish instead?


I cannot quit laughing at that, ghosts are dicks, priceless !!




Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Zook on April 22, 2018, 01:59:46 AM
Does anyone recognize this girl from a ghost movie? Maybe Ringu or something?

(https://i.imgur.com/xsB2sPw.jpg)

EDIT: Nevermind. Mystery solved.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Architeuthis on April 25, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
If I were to experience any kind of strange activity, I wouldn't attribute it to a ghost (the spirit of a person who has died). However, I do believe there are unseen wicked forces at work so as to mislead people into thinking they are ghosts of the departed.
  This should probably be in the religious forum, but the scriptures point out that the dead cannot harm or talk to us. The demons who originally rebelled along with satan can mimic people who have died and give them a so called "religious experience" and toy with people's emotions.  It also says that the devil keeps transforming himself into angel of light in order to deceive people.
 I personally have lost very close family and friends in death. These are the type of people that would have somehow contacted me by now if it was possible.  So I believe what the Bible sais, when it sais the dead are conscious of nothing at all.  It does give the hope of a future resurrection in peaceful conditions for the ones we have lost.. That's a whole other subject that probably belongs in the other forum, so I digress..
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: MetalJunkie on April 26, 2018, 12:37:02 PM
One time I came home from work late at night while it was raining and, because I was so tired and worn, I didn't bother to get out of the car. I reclined the seat to take a little doze before going upstairs to my apartment. I fell sound asleep and I heard a SLAP in my dream. A little girl hit my windshield and then ran away. The noise in my dream was loud enough or startling enough or whatever to wake me up, so I looked at the passenger seat and saw a small handprint. I got out of the car to wipe it off, only to find it was on the inside of the window.

I never fell asleep in that car again.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Architeuthis on April 26, 2018, 01:40:30 PM
One time I came home from work late at night while it was raining and, because I was so tired and worn, I didn't bother to get out of the car. I reclined the seat to take a little doze before going upstairs to my apartment. I fell sound asleep and I heard a SLAP in my dream. A little girl hit my windshield and then ran away. The noise in my dream was loud enough or startling enough or whatever to wake me up, so I looked at the passenger seat and saw a small handprint. I got out of the car to wipe it off, only to find it was on the inside of the window.

I never fell asleep in that car again.
Dang!  By looking at your avatar, I think I know who you better call...
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Stadler on April 27, 2018, 08:19:29 AM
If I were to experience any kind of strange activity, I wouldn't attribute it to a ghost (the spirit of a person who has died). However, I do believe there are unseen wicked forces at work so as to mislead people into thinking they are ghosts of the departed.
  This should probably be in the religious forum, but the scriptures point out that the dead cannot harm or talk to us. The demons who originally rebelled along with satan can mimic people who have died and give them a so called "religious experience" and toy with people's emotions.  It also says that the devil keeps transforming himself into angel of light in order to deceive people.
 I personally have lost very close family and friends in death. These are the type of people that would have somehow contacted me by now if it was possible.  So I believe what the Bible sais, when it sais the dead are conscious of nothing at all.  It does give the hope of a future resurrection in peaceful conditions for the ones we have lost.. That's a whole other subject that probably belongs in the other forum, so I digress..

Obviously your opinion and your experience, but one thing I would add - and I say this about any "spiritual" or "religious" phenomenon - is that I believe it's dangerous to ascribe human thoughts/feelings/emotions to that which has experience of other dimensions/realms.  I believe, above all things and with certainty, that mankind is fallible and flawed.   We are wrong about a lot of things, and in fact, many things.    So to say "oh, if there was a God, children wouldn't get sick", I say, "how the f--- do we know?  Perhaps there is a rationale that God has that we don't know, or maybe even can't understand?"    Maybe when people die, it's like King's 11-22-63, and what sounds like an awesome idea is really not that great an idea after all.   
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Lt. Frank Drebin on April 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
I can't say positively, but the first time my wife and I stayed in Gettysburg, PA at the Farnsworth House, my wife and I had a disagreement the one morning and she left the room.  As soon as she left, I started smelling a floral scent.  It lasted the whole few minutes my wife was gone and when she came back, she noticed the scent too.  It then quickly went away.  One of the few supposed ghosts in that place is said to be accompanied by a floral scent..  I've also heard a few ghost stories from people I trust.  My dad says that he heard dishes being stacked in the kitchen of a 1800's saloon his band used to play in.  The owner said that it's just the ghost.  My dad called bs, went to the kitchen door, flung it open, and the noise stopped.  He never found anyone hiding or any evidence of someone escaping.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Orbert on May 21, 2018, 06:52:10 PM
Late to the party, but I'm bored at work and reading old threads.

When I was growing up, we had a cat named Ming who was really cool.  Big fluffy grey cat.  Eventually I moved out, my parents moved and bought a condo and took Ming with them.  By this time he was getting up there in years.

I had a dream one night that I was back in the old house, and Ming came walking into my bedroom.  I reached down to pet him, and he looked up at me and just faded away.  He was gone.  I woke up feeling very sad for some reason.  I'm tearing up now as I write this.  The next time I talked to my parents, they told me the sad news that Ming had died.  I asked them when, and it was a few days prior.  He'd died sometime during the night, the same night I had the dream, therefore possibly about the same time.  My wife says that his spirit stopped by to say goodbye one last time before moving on.  Um... maybe?

I don't know about ghosts, but there are things in this world that we don't understand, and science cannot explain all of it.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: Podaar on May 22, 2018, 06:42:57 AM
I don't know about ghosts, but there are things in this world that we don't understand, and science cannot explain all of it.

You may be right, Orbert, but the important thing is, scientist will always continue to try! That's how understanding is expanded and progress is made.
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: MirrorMask on May 22, 2018, 07:02:47 AM
Indeed, after every "science can't explain it" there has to be a "yet".
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 22, 2018, 07:58:04 AM
I don't know about ghosts, but there are things in this world that we don't understand, and science cannot explain all of it.

Science would be a lot further along towards explaining it all if it weren't for these superstitious beliefs holding it back for hundreds of years. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Have you ever experienced ghost activity?
Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2018, 09:03:40 AM
I don't know about ghosts, but there are things in this world that we don't understand, and science cannot explain all of it.

Science would be a lot further along towards explaining it all if it weren't for these superstitious beliefs holding it back for hundreds of years. :biggrin:

Or that it's ok with not being able to have a scientific explanation for everything (like why I and mrs.jingle once got a huge whiff of my grandmother's perfume while hiking up a mountain in Calgary), and dedicated more money and resources to things that are explainable/solvable.   :biggergrin: