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Title: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Johnny99 on January 23, 2017, 11:29:08 AM
Thought I'd share this with you, since I noticed this a while ago yet haven't found anything about it on the internet, despite there being several cool articles about the many nuggets/references within Octavarium.

The reference is the release date of the album (and, of course, the song): 7 June. June being the 6th month of the year, this is the 7th of the 6th, or 6/7. Given that one of the central themes of Octavarium are the numbers 5 and 8, and the numbers between 5 and 8 are (obviously) 6 and 7, this could be another reference as to how we are "trapped inside this Octavarium", so to speak.

I don't know whether this is entirely coincidental or just another reference in Octavarium that has gone unnoticed, but I thought it was really cool so I decided to share it with you.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: noxon on January 23, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
oh god, not the nuggets. NOT THE NUGGETS!!!!


(you also forgot that the year was 5)
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: rumborak on January 23, 2017, 03:06:23 PM
TRAPPED. INSIDE. THIS. NUGGETARIUM!!!!!
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on January 23, 2017, 06:02:37 PM
That's pretty cool. Have you also noticed this with the track listing:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls

The first three letters make up TTT, so this means DT wants us to take the time to listen to the album.

And if you take the first letter of EVERY song, you get  'tttipnso' . Which is an anagram of Pittston, a city in Pennsylvania. A city with a population of 7,739. Maybe one of the band members lived there at one point and felt trapped (the number 7 indicating the feeling of 'trapped-ness' between 5 and 8.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: jakepriest on January 23, 2017, 06:04:44 PM
That's pretty cool. Have you also noticed this with the track listing:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls

The first three letters make up TTT, so this means DT wants us to take the time to listen to the album.

wow you linking those three awesome songs to an abomination like Take The Time just completely ruined them for me





:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 23, 2017, 06:35:09 PM
And if you take the first letter of EVERY song, you get  'tttipnso' . Which is an anagram of Pittston, a city in Pennsylvania. A city with a population of 7,739. Maybe one of the band members lived there at one point and felt trapped (the number 7 indicating the feeling of 'trapped-ness' between 5 and 8.

7+7+3+9=26
2+6=8
:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Tony From Long Island on January 24, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
That's pretty cool. Have you also noticed this with the track listing:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls

The first three letters make up TTT, so this means DT wants us to take the time to listen to the album.

And if you take the first letter of EVERY song, you get  'tttipnso' . Which is an anagram of Pittston, a city in Pennsylvania. A city with a population of 7,739. Maybe one of the band members lived there at one point and felt trapped (the number 7 indicating the feeling of 'trapped-ness' between 5 and 8.


Wow man. . . that is deep.    and to quote the Oscar winning Revenge of the Nerds II,   "what if C-A-T  really spelled dog?"
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 24, 2017, 09:57:26 AM
These are what I like to call alternative nuggets.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 24, 2017, 10:25:39 AM
These are what I like to call alternative nuggets.

:rollin
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Orbert on January 24, 2017, 10:41:11 AM
:omg:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Chino on January 24, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
And 'Octavarium' is an anagram of 'Avaticorum', which is so freaking secretive, Google translate can't even translate its Wikipedia page.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Kotowboy on January 24, 2017, 01:02:57 PM
On the front cover of The Astonishing - there are EIGHT Nomacs.

There are also FIVE Nomac "tracks" on the album.


JOINCIDENCE ? !
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Chino on January 24, 2017, 01:09:45 PM
And the nomacs just make noise, just like the beginning of Ocatavarium! Fucking NUGGETZZ!
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Kotowboy on January 24, 2017, 01:10:46 PM
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist to "VARY 'EM"

:omg:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Setlist Scotty on January 24, 2017, 01:38:56 PM
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist to "VARY 'EM"
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/SetlistScotty/stupid%20fun.jpg)

 :omg:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Orbert on January 24, 2017, 02:03:33 PM
That's a nice shoop.  The grass especially looks very real.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: ReaperKK on January 24, 2017, 02:49:12 PM
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist to "VARY 'EM"
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/SetlistScotty/stupid%20fun.jpg)

 :omg:

:lol

That made me laugh pretty damn hard
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on January 24, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
Nice subtle use of the SFAM artwork too, I'd consider that a nugget
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: cramx3 on January 24, 2017, 03:10:48 PM
That's golden  :rollin
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Kotowboy on January 24, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
Nice subtle use of the SFAM artwork too, I'd consider that a nugget

Yes.

Also SFAM is album 5 and Octavarium is album 8 = 8 + 5 = 13 . TA was album 13 :dangerwillrobinson:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 24, 2017, 03:27:15 PM
OMG NO
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Orbert on January 24, 2017, 03:30:58 PM
Nice subtle use of the SFAM artwork too, I'd consider that a nugget

Whoa, I didn't realize that that's what was going on with the grass, but now I see it.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: ? on January 24, 2017, 04:28:33 PM
These are what I like to call alternative nuggets.
:clap:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: TheAtliator on January 25, 2017, 12:46:06 AM
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist he "ought to VARY 'EM"

:omg:
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Kotowboy on January 25, 2017, 02:49:34 AM
Haha :D
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on January 25, 2017, 10:20:16 AM
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Orbert on January 25, 2017, 10:39:26 AM
Nevermore!
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 25, 2017, 11:50:18 AM
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
It's Ravenskill.  One word.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Setlist Scotty on January 25, 2017, 11:56:35 AM
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
It's Ravenskill.  One word.
Not any more than the second disc of SDoIT is one song. Oh wait....
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 25, 2017, 01:35:32 PM
GET OUT
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Orbert on January 25, 2017, 02:06:47 PM
I only realised today that it's not Raven skill. It's Ravens kill. Little nugget of info.
It's Ravenskill.  One word.

True, but it's a compound word.  The question is how to identify the individual components.

Kinda like how "nowhere" usually means "no where" but could also mean "now here".

Okay, maybe not.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Adami on January 25, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
It's Rave N' Skill.

The place is basically a 24/7 glow stick/dubstep party.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Johnny99 on January 27, 2017, 01:14:33 AM
It's Rave N' Skill.

The place is basically a 24/7 glow stick/dubstep party.

Did you know "Eat Sleep Rave Repeat" is a hidden bonus track on The Astonishing? 😂
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 27, 2017, 08:36:24 AM
It's Rave N' Skill.

The place is basically a 24/7 glow stick/dubstep party.

Did you know "Eat Sleep Rave Repeat" is a hidden bonus track on The Astonishing? 😂

Eat Sleep Rave Repeat has five syllables and eight vowels. NUGGETS!
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on January 27, 2017, 09:13:53 AM
What's really surprising is that The Astonishing contains all the exact same notes used in Octavarium, just in different places.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Chino on January 27, 2017, 09:15:19 AM
What's really surprising is that The Astonishing contains all the exact same notes used in Octavarium, just in different places.

Both album titles contain the same number of syllables.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 27, 2017, 09:20:50 AM
2005 OCTAVARIUM SUBFORUM ALL OVER AGAIN
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Chino on January 27, 2017, 09:24:03 AM
There were eight tracks on Octavarium and eight characters in the Astonishing, 5/8ths of which were male.   :o
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2017, 09:26:40 AM
2005 OCTAVARIUM SUBFORUM ALL OVER AGAIN

#MakeDTFGreatAgain
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 27, 2017, 09:41:34 AM
2005 OCTAVARIUM SUBFORUM ALL OVER AGAIN

#MakeDTFGreatAgain

(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/other/DudeAndWalter.gif)
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: bosk1 on January 27, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
And Originally the Nomacs on the cover of The Astonishing were all the same size so JP told the artist to "VARY 'EM"
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/SetlistScotty/stupid%20fun.jpg)

 :omg:

:lol

That made me laugh pretty damn hard
What a hack job.  The angle on the strings isn't even right.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on January 27, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
Holy shit guys. "The songbird stops to listen when he sings" Would this songbird happen to be the same one as on the Octavarium album art?
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Orbert on January 27, 2017, 05:57:59 PM
There were eight tracks on Octavarium and eight characters in the Astonishing, 5/8ths of which were male.   :o

Nice!  :lol
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Pragmaticcircus on January 28, 2017, 02:58:15 PM
The Astonishing and The root of all evil share the same word, can you guess?  :o
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: jakepriest on January 28, 2017, 03:05:40 PM
The Astonishing and The root of all evil share the same word, can you guess?  :o

MY BROTHER
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Iceyice on January 29, 2017, 09:18:25 AM
Jesus.
You guys are nuts, lol.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on January 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
I'm always on the lookout for new nuggets.

You must be living in a world of MAKE BELIEVE!

He lives in a world of fiction...
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Devin Townsend on February 02, 2017, 04:47:02 PM
A brochure for free KFC chicken nuggets is hidden behind the CD tray  :corn
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Kotowboy on February 05, 2017, 03:18:14 PM
No it isn't :facepalm:


























I checked :'(
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on February 05, 2017, 04:00:07 PM
I found some balls in my Train Of Thought.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Kotowboy on February 05, 2017, 05:41:22 PM
Waiter ! There's a blue hair in my soup !!



Yes sir. You're having a midlife crisis.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on February 05, 2017, 05:48:54 PM
I took my dog to the beach, and let him run around in the sand.

That's when I saw James Labrie. He was very angry, he told me 'All dogs need a leash'. I was scared, but I don't think he'd ever hurt me (though he's never said it).
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 13, 2017, 07:30:00 AM
I took my dog to the beach, and let him run around in the sand.

That's when I saw James Labrie. He was very angry, he told me 'All dogs need a leash'. I was scared, but I don't think he'd ever hurt me (though he's never said it).

At least you'll forget it. I want to know more, but I'm not gonna ask you today. I don't want to scare you away.
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: Evai on February 15, 2017, 03:39:58 AM
I think I know why there was a no-camera policy at The Astonishing tour. Myung must've tackled JLB again. (They could've incorporated it as part of the story, maybe the 'I am right behind you, bleugh!' part)
Title: Re: Found another nugget in Octavarium
Post by: don_waka on February 15, 2017, 05:14:05 AM
 :lol

This was so funny to read