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Title: RIP Princess Leia
Post by: T-ski on December 27, 2016, 11:01:23 AM
Carrie Fisher passed away this morning.

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Post by: bosk1 on December 27, 2016, 11:03:35 AM
Aww.  :(
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Post by: Hyperplex on December 27, 2016, 11:06:40 AM
I really was afraid that this was going to happen. I didn't think she was going to come through after what happened but damnit....
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Post by: sueño on December 27, 2016, 11:08:11 AM
https://www.tmz.com/2016/12/27/carrie-fisher-dead/

:(
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Post by: Adami on December 27, 2016, 11:11:17 AM
God dammit, 2016. Working overtime to ruin everything.
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Post by: rumborak on December 27, 2016, 11:15:07 AM
God dammit, 2016. Working overtime to ruin everything.

Seriously. People always say "this year was terrible", but 2016 is in its own league at this point.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 27, 2016, 11:16:51 AM
God dammit, 2016. Working overtime to ruin everything.

Seriously. People always say "this year was terrible", but 2016 is in its own league at this point.

I wonder to myself if really this year is no worse than any other year and maybe the reputation just caught on and people started looking for it, but this year really has seemed insane for celebrity deaths, even to the very end.
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Post by: Samsara on December 27, 2016, 11:53:30 AM
May the princess rest in peace. Awful. So many people leaving us this year. Just crazy.
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Post by: TAC on December 27, 2016, 12:01:59 PM
God dammit, 2016. Working overtime to ruin everything.

Seriously. People always say "this year was terrible", but 2016 is in its own league at this point.

I wonder to myself if really this year is no worse than any other year and maybe the reputation just caught on and people started looking for it, but this year really has seemed insane for celebrity deaths, even to the very end.

MSN has a slideshow of notable celebrity deaths and it's 141 slides long.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on December 27, 2016, 12:09:28 PM
She was a massive part of my childhood. Its definitely a shame. 60 is way too young to go.
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Post by: MirrorMask on December 27, 2016, 12:44:46 PM
I had hopes that she would pull through after news of a stable situation after her heart attack   :'(

I'm also a bit ashamed in thinking not only about her, but also about Episode VII, I feel selfish in wondering right now "Damn, no old Luke and Leila reunion".  I think they will retire her character and have her die off screen, no way they would CGI her.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 27, 2016, 01:01:41 PM
God dammit, 2016. Working overtime to ruin everything.

Seriously. People always say "this year was terrible", but 2016 is in its own league at this point.

I wonder to myself if really this year is no worse than any other year and maybe the reputation just caught on and people started looking for it, but this year really has seemed insane for celebrity deaths, even to the very end.

Well every Academy Awards has an " In memory "  portion so famous people pass away every year but this year it seems to be a lot more high profile people.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 27, 2016, 01:02:19 PM
I had hopes that she would pull through after news of a stable situation after her heart attack   :'(

I'm also a bit ashamed in thinking not only about her, but also about Episode VII, I feel selfish in wondering right now "Damn, no old Luke and Leila reunion".  I think they will retire her character and have her die off screen, no way they would CGI her.

She may be in Episode 8. They finished filming some time ago. Still time to re-write Episode 9.
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Post by: Bertielee on December 27, 2016, 01:09:32 PM
So, now, 2016, it's every day?!? Come to an end, quickly!
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Post by: Cool Chris on December 27, 2016, 01:11:35 PM
Lest we be too sad on this day, watch this short clip to appreciate her wit and humor.

https://youtu.be/lZ97s396kb0
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Post by: MirrorMask on December 27, 2016, 01:23:53 PM
I had hopes that she would pull through after news of a stable situation after her heart attack   :'(

I'm also a bit ashamed in thinking not only about her, but also about Episode VII, I feel selfish in wondering right now "Damn, no old Luke and Leila reunion".  I think they will retire her character and have her die off screen, no way they would CGI her.

She may be in Episode 8. They finished filming some time ago. Still time to re-write Episode 9.

Yeah, I just saw the news that she had actually finished filming.

For sure the movie will be dedicated to her memory.
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Post by: Hyperplex on December 27, 2016, 01:38:17 PM
The reality of this all is that 2016 is not some.harbinger of death, or some spectral slayer. We are now in the era of stars of the past 40 years reaching ages of mortality, be it through age, illness, or tragedy. No one lives forever, and we are now entering into a time period that more directly affects the times in which we grew up. Not trying to be pessimistic or gloomy, but this won't end with the passing of 2016. It's the nature of life, albeit an unpleasant one.

In the same breath, the author of Watership Down and the drummer from Weather Report both also passed away.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 27, 2016, 01:48:24 PM

In the same breath, the author of Watership Down and the drummer from Weather Report both also passed away.

Yes but Douglas Adams was 96. Not so much of a curse.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 27, 2016, 01:53:09 PM
*Richard
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Post by: Adami on December 27, 2016, 01:54:05 PM
*Richard


Dick.
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Post by: splent on December 27, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Fuck 2016.

Carrie Fisher was Leia but she was so much more than that. If you have some time to kill watch her one woman show "Wishful Drinking": https://youtu.be/Pn_WBBAvZ_Q
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 27, 2016, 02:48:11 PM
*Richard

Oh yeah - Douglas Adams did Hitch Hikers Guide. He died ages ago.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 27, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
God dammit, 2016. Working overtime to ruin everything.

Seriously. People always say "this year was terrible", but 2016 is in its own league at this point.

I wonder to myself if really this year is no worse than any other year and maybe the reputation just caught on and people started looking for it, but this year really has seemed insane for celebrity deaths, even to the very end.

Imagine Next Year...

It's inevitable though, the ones the masses grew up on loving are now in that age and can go anytime. Life isn't set,  and this year proved it.

Sad to see the Princess Leia go though.
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Post by: 7th on December 27, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
Very sad indeed.  60...too damn young.
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Post by: bundy on December 27, 2016, 04:24:45 PM
The reality of this all is that 2016 is not some.harbinger of death, or some spectral slayer. We are now in the era of stars of the past 40 years reaching ages of mortality, be it through age, illness, or tragedy. No one lives forever, and we are now entering into a time period that more directly affects the times in which we grew up. Not trying to be pessimistic or gloomy, but this won't end with the passing of 2016. It's the nature of life, albeit an unpleasant one.



Definitely agree. What's been sad about 2016 though is that many of these people (Prince, Bowie, George Michael, Rick Parfitt and now Carrie Fisher) were not old, but only what is now considered middle aged.

RIP Carrie Fisher - Gone too soon.
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Post by: KevShmev on December 27, 2016, 06:33:35 PM
I'm not a Star Wars fan, but I obviously recognize how iconic she is because of her role in those films.

She had some of my favorite lines in When Harry Met Sally.

R.I.P.
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Post by: Hyperplex on December 27, 2016, 09:10:28 PM
Indeed there is never really any good time for someone to pass. There were definitely more shocking deaths this year than I can remember, but I also remember back in 2003 there was a run of a lot of famous deaths. Like I said, it happens in generations. That isn't to say it explains why so many had to go so young, but it does show how the passing of generations can move in waves. It sucks.

But I was also reminded, through a friend's Facebook post today, just how unfair it can be to label 2016 as "the killer." A friend, who is a local comedian, posted a status saying that Facebook has become "who has 2016 killed today?" referencing Carrie Fisher, and one of his friends emotionally went off, not on him, but on the trend of cursing this year for "taking so many celebrities." To most of us, today we lost Carrie Fisher (and two other celebrities), but this girl happened to lose her mother, suddenly and unexpectedly. And she did not attack my friend at all, but in her grief, her emotions got the better of her and she felt offended, because people were cursing this year for taking people they barely knew, while she sits there grieving over her own mother. I can see her point, and to her credit she kept her composure and clarity within what I can only imagine to be immense, immeasurable grief and sadness.

It's just something to consider, in the grand scheme of things.

And please don't take this thought vomit as any sort of detraction on Carrie Fisher's passing or anything of that sort. Just what I felt was a rather important bit of perspective.
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Post by: ReaperKK on December 28, 2016, 05:16:14 AM
Sad news indeed. When I heard she had a massive heart attack though I feared the worst.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 28, 2016, 08:30:40 AM
She had some of my favorite lines in When Harry Met Sally.
Indeed.  Other than that other famous scene, she MADE that film.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2016, 09:05:57 AM
 :corn

Never seen it! :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 28, 2016, 09:34:03 AM
____________________
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2016, 09:35:26 AM
________________-____


FTFY
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Post by: KevShmev on December 28, 2016, 09:38:23 AM
She had some of my favorite lines in When Harry Met Sally.
Indeed.  Other than that other famous scene, she MADE that film.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but she was definitely great in it.  And she has the best line in it:

"I just want you to know, I will never want that wagon wheel coffee table."

 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Post by: Phoenix87x on December 28, 2016, 09:41:13 AM
Most people will always just see her as Leia, but putting that to the side, I really enjoyed her other roles.

The Burbs
When Harry met sally
Even that little scene in Austin powers is hilarious
Blues brothers
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Her acting in The Force Awakens was still pretty good considering how bat-sith crazy she seemed in real life.
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Post by: T-ski on December 28, 2016, 12:16:54 PM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15698283_1159112714158358_2049747109297188202_n.jpg?oh=d49c91e8958bf75c52d61757c67a4453&oe=5920EB4D)
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Post by: Adami on December 28, 2016, 12:18:41 PM
Awwwwww  :'(
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Post by: TheCountOfNYC on December 28, 2016, 03:10:13 PM
RIP Carrie Fisher. Being a big Star Wars fan, this one hurts more than any other celebrity death this year. I always felt that in comparison to Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford, she never really got the respect amongst Star Wars fans that she deserved. Leia was such a cool character who didn't take shit from anybody. Even in the infamous slave outfit, she delt with the circumstances while she had to and when the opportunity came, she defeated her opressor. So many great moments in the original trilogy happened because of Leia and Carrie Fisher was the perfect actress to pull it off. She will always be remembered as a legend now.
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Post by: Metro on December 28, 2016, 06:50:19 PM
Now her mother, Debbie Reynolds, has passed away....
https://variety.com/2016/film/news/debbie-reynolds-dead-dies-carrie-fisher-mother-1201949432/
 :(
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Post by: Adami on December 28, 2016, 06:51:41 PM
Now her mother, Debbie Reynolds, has passed away....
https://variety.com/2016/film/news/debbie-reynolds-dead-dies-carrie-fisher-mother-1201949432/
 :(

SHE DIED?!?!

I heard she went to the ER..............good lord!
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Post by: SystematicThought on December 28, 2016, 06:54:31 PM
Just sad all around. :(
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Post by: NunoTenniscourt on December 28, 2016, 07:08:07 PM

This is utterly fucking mind blowing.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on December 28, 2016, 07:21:30 PM
That is insane
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 28, 2016, 07:25:07 PM
OMG.  That is heartbreaking!
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Post by: NunoTenniscourt on December 28, 2016, 07:28:48 PM

This is three very recognizable names in the last FOUR DAYS.
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Post by: Adami on December 28, 2016, 07:29:59 PM
God dammit, 2016. Working overtime to ruin everything.
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Post by: KevShmev on December 28, 2016, 07:40:30 PM
Very, very sad.

2016 is running up the score at this point.
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Post by: Adami on December 28, 2016, 07:41:39 PM
Only three more days till we can start talking about how awful 2017 is.
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Post by: TempusVox on December 28, 2016, 10:08:13 PM
I cannot imagine the heartache and devastation of losing a child. My mother died very unexpectedly at 46 and my grandfather passed a month later and my grandmother 3 months after that. And my aunt (my mother's only sibling) has never been the same. She suffered a nervous breakdown a week after my mother died. And has been in and out of institutions for the last 24 years. She and my mother were extremely close. She told me about six months ago she prays everyday that there's a heaven so she can see her sister again, as that's all she has to look forward too. I know...this is real "...House of Usher" type shit here. My point....this type of heartbreak happens all the time, and the death of a family member due to heartache of a death is a very real thing.

RIP Carrie and Debbie. I believe Heaven is real...take care of each other, and watch over Billie. She's gonna need it I'm sure.
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Post by: MirrorMask on December 29, 2016, 01:03:01 AM
So sad that the heartbreak over her child's death actually killed her  :-\
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 29, 2016, 02:12:54 AM
I cannot imagine the heartache and devastation of losing a child. My mother died very unexpectedly at 46 and my grandfather passed a month later and my grandmother 3 months after that. And my aunt (my mother's only sibling) has never been the same. She suffered a nervous breakdown a week after my mother died. And has been in and out of institutions for the last 24 years. She and my mother were extremely close. She told me about six months ago she prays everyday that there's a heaven so she can see her sister again, as that's all she has to look forward too. I know...this is real "...House of Usher" type shit here. My point....this type of heartbreak happens all the time, and the death of a family member due to heartache of a death is a very real thing.

RIP Carrie and Debbie. I believe Heaven is real...take care of each other, and watch over Billie. She's gonna need it I'm sure.
Something similar happened to my grandpa when my grandma passed away. He was never the same after and constantly sad which was heartbreaking to see. It's like he just gave up and about 1 year later he passed away.
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Post by: Polarbear on December 29, 2016, 02:14:52 AM
I can't even imagine what Carrie's daughter Billie, must be going through now. :(
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Post by: TAC on December 29, 2016, 06:38:17 AM
  the death of a family member due to heartache of a death is a very real thing.


I totally believe it.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 29, 2016, 06:43:31 AM
It's weird. My Grandad and my Grandma had their 50th Anniversary and she passed away a few years ago.

You'd think he'd be miserable and reclusive after such a thing.

But he actually came out of his shell after - he started taking long trips everywhere and brightened up a lot actually.

I don't think they didn't get on but maybe he thought that he could live a bit more with the time he has left ?

I dunno. He's just had his 89th and you wouldn't know it at all. he still drives. Is still very active. No hint of senility. Uses the internet.

My great Auntie recently died at the age of 99. I hope my Grandad lives that long...



My Dad also lightened up a lot after my mum passed away. But she was very ill for a long time. That's different I suppose. She didn't want to go to hospital and passed away at home.

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Post by: Stadler on December 29, 2016, 07:44:29 AM
That happened to my grandfather; he buried two of his daughters, and after the second, one day he just sat down in his favorite chair to watch the Mets - which he would sometimes do with his sons in law - and just... never got up.   there's not a person in this family that doesn't believe he just figured with them gone, there was no point. 
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 29, 2016, 09:37:16 AM
So Steve Martin gets called sexist because he calls Carrie Fisher smart and witty.

People really need to get a fucking grip.
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Post by: bosk1 on December 29, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
Did you mean "sexist?"
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 29, 2016, 09:57:00 AM
I did !

Please edit for me ;) xx
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Post by: El Barto on December 29, 2016, 10:03:12 AM
Yes he did.

And personally I'm disappointed that SM didn't have the balls to leave his remark public so people could see what a joke the faux outrage was. Moreover, while people are discussing the "addicted to outrage phenomenon," it seems to me the bigger problem is the media (both sides) being addicted to reporting pseudo-outrage as if it's some important, meaningful thing. One magazine nobody has ever heard of suggested that she resisted sex-symbol status, a few random twitters agreed, and FOX immediately reports "Media outlets and fans immediately turned on the comedian saying Martin’s tweet had a sexist undertone." So, which side is it that's addicted to outrage again? The people criticizing him or the people rushing bitching about them?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 29, 2016, 10:07:03 AM
Ugh, nothing at all wrong with his tweet. Apparently reasonable and proportionate responses also died in 2016. It's a joke.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 29, 2016, 10:26:23 AM
Ugh, nothing at all wrong with his tweet. Apparently reasonable and proportionate responses also died in 2016. It's a joke.

he called her beautiful, smart and funny.

omg so sexist.

it's not like he tweeted " shame about carrie fisher. nice rack. probably a good cook. terrible driver OBVIOUSLY "
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Post by: bosk1 on December 29, 2016, 10:45:13 AM
Yeah, I've seen other rather benign things associated with her that have been blasted over the last couple of days due to misplaced outrage.  I'm sad about her passing too, but I'm not sure why the subject of Carrie Fisher is now somehow a sacred cow. 

...as opposed to Natalie Portman, who is just a cow in general.  :cow:  But I digress.
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Post by: Stadler on December 29, 2016, 10:46:55 AM
Oh, SNAP.
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Post by: bosk1 on December 29, 2016, 10:47:39 AM
Sorry.  I tried.  But I literally could not help myself.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 29, 2016, 11:01:30 AM
Daisy Ridley > Natalie Portman
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Post by: El Barto on December 29, 2016, 11:51:32 AM
Apples and oranges. Portman had to play a very specific character, under the watchful eye of a demented control freak (not to mention George Lucas outside of DTF). That Ridley gal got to start with a blank slate. 

And the more I hear about CF the more I think she was a groovy chick. I can see how she was inspirational to people. She actually reminds me a bit of Nimoy, who also had to try and be a real person both within and outside of an iconic character.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 29, 2016, 11:53:57 AM
And form what I hear about Anthony Daniels - people won't be as upset when he's gone.
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Post by: Cool Chris on December 29, 2016, 12:29:34 PM
Carrie's brilliance was never in front of the camera. Her true talents lie in her wit and personality, not in her acting chops. And with all the recent celeb passings, it seems like hers has garnered the most kind words, gestures, and tributes from other celebs, which shows how much she was truly loved and respected in the industry of "celebrity."
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Post by: sueño on December 29, 2016, 12:44:28 PM
never mind - can't make picture post.. :(
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 29, 2016, 01:06:24 PM
Something I've learned about her in the last few days - from the mid 90s to the mid 00s she was one of the top uncredited script doctors in Hollywood.
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Post by: Dream Team on December 29, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Carrie's brilliance was never in front of the camera. Her true talents lie in her wit and personality, not in her acting chops. And with all the recent celeb passings, it seems like hers has garnered the most kind words, gestures, and tributes from other celebs, which shows how much she was truly loved and respected in the industry of "celebrity."

This exactly. Extremely intelligent, witty, and a great wordsmith.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 30, 2016, 10:15:04 AM
Just thought today that Carrie's daughter will probably never enjoy another Christmas :(
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 30, 2016, 10:42:13 AM
Her Family Guy acting was great. Didn't she also direct some films?
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 30, 2016, 10:45:19 AM
And that sucks about Debbie Reynolds. She is an awesome comedian, meeting her jokes were casual.
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Post by: Hyperplex on December 30, 2016, 11:09:21 AM
Just thought today that Carrie's daughter will probably never enjoy another Christmas :(

My neighbors lost their mother/wife two days after Thanksgiving. I'm sure that holiday is ruined for them, too. It's always sad when someone passes on a holiday.
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Post by: El Barto on December 30, 2016, 12:04:07 PM
My stepfather died Christmas morning a few years back, and my grandfather died on my birthday. My experience is that you do get that reminder and it's a bummer, but you've also go a whole lot of other things going on those days, as well as friends and family being around. While I can't speak for my stepbrothers/sister, it seems to me better than having them die on some random day where there's nothing else going on.
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Post by: Hyperplex on December 30, 2016, 12:17:42 PM
My aunt died the day my son was born; the literal day, 5 hours before he was born. Many of you might remember me talking about it. She was on hospice so it was really just a matter of when. I can honestly say I never processed her death. I'm aware of it, I know it happened but her funeral was the same time Eric got wheeled into the NICU....I never processed, I was focused on my family and child and wife. It feels awful to say, but it's like it didn't really happen, even tho it did. My son's birthday has never been darkened for me.
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Post by: Kotowboy on December 30, 2016, 12:24:55 PM
My mum died January 8th 1997.

My step bro was born January 8th 2004.

Also my firs niece was born on April 1st - a few years to the day after my Grandma died.

So weird.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on December 30, 2016, 05:20:16 PM
RIP to Carrie and Debbie. So sad, but the hope is that mental health/bipolar awareness comes more to the forefront. I applaud Carrie for living and joking about it - her humor and wit were spot on, and both her and her mother will be sorely missed.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 31, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
My aunt died the day my son was born; the literal day, 5 hours before he was born. Many of you might remember me talking about it. She was on hospice so it was really just a matter of when. I can honestly say I never processed her death. I'm aware of it, I know it happened but her funeral was the same time Eric got wheeled into the NICU....I never processed, I was focused on my family and child and wife. It feels awful to say, but it's like it didn't really happen, even tho it did. My son's birthday has never been darkened for me.

Now that's rough. But with how I believe, they knew each other within that time frame of her passing and him not yet being born.