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Title: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 09, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
This is the updated version of this thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=49020.0) where members of the DTF Split-Screen Project voted on which song to do first. The only reason I'm remaking the thread is because the old one didn't allow you to vote more than once, while this one allows you to vote for 5 songs AND to have the ability change your vote.

This list is merely a list of every song (I think) that was suggested in the other thread. If you have an idea that isn't on the list, just let me know & I'll add it to the poll.  ;)

Current line-up:
Production - Darklord_Lalinc
Vocals - bosk1, DL, NOMAC2107
Backing Vocals - Elite, IDontNotDoThings
Guitar - home, Elite, Mosh, Saurabh(?), Serah Farron
Bass - IDNDT, Mosh, SF
Keyboards - DL, home, Mosh
Drums - SF

(names mentioned more than once are acronyms)
















PINBOARD:
(things you should know about)



Pinboard Explanation / Overview
Woah! What's this pinboard thing? :dangerwillrobinson: Well it's where I post important updates that members can see that they may have missed in the thread. If you're new here, keep reading this text. This is the DTF Split-Screen Project, where members of the Dream Theater Forums get together to cover Dream Theater songs. Any new members are welcome as we use a (mostly) rotating line-up from song to song. Whether you're a vocalist, guitarist, bassist, keyboardist or drummer, we welcome you to the team & hope you have fun being part of this project.  :tup



E-mail to join Dropbox Team
Pinning this because apparently people aren't seeing it. To send files to each other, you'll have to be added to the Dropbox Team. To get invites to the Dropbox Team, e-mail dtfsplitscreen@gmail.com with your DTF name & I'll send you an invite. As far as I know, this is the only way I can add you to the Dropbox Team, so although it might be an odd process, just bear with me on this one.



Current songs:
(Note: we use a rotating line-up for most songs)
The Root Of All Evil
Vocals - bosk1
Guitar - Elite
Bass - IDontNotDoThings
Keyboard - Darklord_Lalinc
Drums - Serah Farron
Regression / Overture 1928 / Strange Deja Vu
Vocals - NOMAC2107 (& possibly Serah Farron)
Guitar - Mosh
Bass - IDontNotDoThings (I mean, unless anyone else wants to)
Keyboard - ?
Drums - ?



Recording standards:
Make sure your instrument  is at least somewhat professionally recorded with a decent mic & amp. Some lenience is allowed but remember that your instrument can't clash with the rest of the group too much. Also try to eliminate as much background noise as possible. For recording video, make sure you get an 16:9 camera that records at at least 30fps at at least a 360p video quality, but that's all I really have to say on that matter (aside from use a tripod & make sure you're in view). Just make sure it looks & sounds decent & you'll be fine.


Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD (Multiple Votes Edition)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 09, 2016, 05:21:10 PM
If we're doing top 5's, mine would be:
Pull Me Under
Regression / Overture 1928 / Strange Deja Vu
Stream Of Consciousness
The Root Of All Evil
Dytopian Overture (which I voted for)
Also, Our New World could be fun too.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD (Multiple Votes Edition)
Post by: Serah Farron on December 09, 2016, 05:50:28 PM
I agree with your choices. It'd be fun to do Regression/Overture/Strange Deja Vu.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD (Multiple Votes Edition)
Post by: bosk1 on December 09, 2016, 11:09:29 PM
Cool.  So far, Root in the "lead."  But only 4 votes so far, so any other song could catch up.  I'll just throw this out there:  It's a great song, and probably a lot of fun to play.  But vocally, it isn't very dynamic.  Not nearly as much fun to song as some of the others.  That doesn't mean I won't want to do it.  I will.  But my preference would probably be for something more dynamic, vocally.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD (Multiple Votes Edition)
Post by: Elite on December 10, 2016, 03:07:01 AM
I voted:
A Change of Seasons
Regression / o'28 / SDV
The Dance of Eternity
SS / ATC (Reprise)
The Root of All Evil

I wouldbe fine with Pull Me Under & 6:00 as well.

All songs are songs I have played before and songs I can play on guitar.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD (Multiple Votes Edition)
Post by: Elite on December 10, 2016, 03:08:39 AM
Also, I believe home is primarily a keyboardist and he doesn't necessarily play guitar, but he'll have to confirm this.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD (Multiple Votes Edition)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 10, 2016, 04:05:20 AM
Also, I believe home is primarily a keyboardist and he doesn't necessarily play guitar, but he'll have to confirm this.

He agreed to do some rhythm guitar but yes, he is primarily a keyboardist. I only put him first because he was the first guitarist to join.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD (Multiple Votes Edition)
Post by: home on December 10, 2016, 05:43:06 AM
Also, I believe home is primarily a keyboardist and he doesn't necessarily play guitar, but he'll have to confirm this.
Confirming this, I mean I could do some rhythm guitar if needed but seeing as we have plenty of (way better) guitarists here, that shouldn't be necessary.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 13, 2016, 10:50:59 PM
Okay, so since it seems no-one has voted in 2 or 3 days, I think it's safe to assume that everyone who wanted to vote has already done so. With that in mind, The Root Of All Evil is the winner for our first song! So if you haven't learnt that song, start. Deadline is New Years Eve, if anyone has a problem with this deadline, let me know.

Anyway, I was just about to set up a Dropbox team when I realised something... have we decided on an official name for the project yet? Personally I think "DTF Split-Screen Project" works fine, but I just wanted to check if anyone had any better names they wanted to share or for some reason had a problem with the current name. The name gets decided 17/12 (this Saturday) so that the Dropbox team is up for two weeks before the due date. Again, if anyone has any problems with these deadlines, let me know & we'll negotiate it.

Afterwards, the files will go to Darklord_Lalinc for the production/mixing stage. I don't know how long it takes to produce an already-recorded song so I'll hold off on setting a deadline for that (at least for now), but the video should be up to YouTube sometime in January 2017.

Speaking of this, I know Darklord_Lalinc was the audio producer, but do we have a designated video editor yet? Obviously with there being five (or more) of us recording per song, we aren't all going to fit on a four-panel screen, plus there's the mixing of takes, creating graphics, etc. so it isn't exactly like the video editing is any small task. If no-one else is willing to oblige, I'll happily take over video editing, but whoever is video editing would need to get documentation from Darklord about which takes he used for the final mix, & the editor will also need to get the final mix before beginning the editing process. Also they'll need an editing software that allows for multi-layering. I don't have an issue with piracy in this sense (especially since most editing softwares are ridiculously expensive), but just know that if I'm the editor in this case, I'll probably pirate the software.

But as for right now, we'll have to know who's going to be playing on this first song.
- The drummer is obviously going to be Serah.
- Bosk admitted to vocals being easy so it could be either bosk or Darklord for vocals.
- Keyboard could be either Darklord or home (though Darklord probably shouldn't take both keyboard AND lead vocals).
- Guitar is probably going to be Elite since Serah's already doing drums, Mosh & Saurabh haven't posted in the new threads yet & home only wanted to do guitar if needed.
- Bass will probably be me, since again, Serah's already doing drums & Mosh hasn't posted in the new thread yet.

As for recording, make sure your instrument  is at least somewhat professionally recorded with a decent mic & amp. Some lenience is allowed but remember that your instrument can't clash with the rest of the group too much. Also try to eliminate as much background noise as possible. For recording video, make sure you get an 16:9 camera that records at at least 30fps at at least a 360p video quality, but that's all I really have to say on that matter (aside from use a tripod & make sure you're in view). Just make sure it looks & sounds decent & you'll be fine.

Anyway, that's it for the update. Hope to see the you soon.  ;)

EDIT: & one more thing, I'm working on a click track now. It should be done in a few minutes & will definitely be on the Dropbox page at the time it goes live.

EDIT 2: Okay, nevermind on the click track, it's a lot more difficult than expected...
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: bosk1 on December 16, 2016, 10:04:55 AM
I will assume I am doing vocals unless Lalo says he plans to.  Just to clarify, what is the NYE deadline for?  Not for submitting tracks, right?  For vocals, at the very least, I need the scratch/click to be done to make sure I am timing everything correctly.  But the more ideal situation is to work from complete tracks, or at least tracks with all the main rhythm tracks done, if not most of the solos as well.  Makes it easier to pick up and play off of the different stylistic things that folks are doing.  Best if those other parts get recorded, and then Lalo can do a quick preliminary mix for me to use as my scratch track for doing the main vocal track.  Then we can add in any harmonies and backing tracks.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 16, 2016, 03:44:30 PM
The deadline WAS supposed to be for submitting tracks, but if you (& everyone else) needs the click track & past performances to record, & suppose we can amend the process. The only problem with that is that it'll take longer. Supposedly you can still work on learning the song before getting the other tracks, so maybe there's an initial deadline for the first instrument's draft (probably drums), then everyone else's is a few days after the previous (in order Drums -> Bass -> Guitar -> Keyboard -> Vocals or something like that), then Darklord does the preliminary mix, then there's a final deadline for submitting final performances (including backups, harmonies,  etc.). Should that be enough time or should I increase it?

Anyway, Serah PM'd me about how she wasn't going to be able to get the drums done by the deadline, so until she gets things sorted out or until we find another drummer for the first song, the deadline is going to be delayed anyway.

I can work on the click track, but chances are it'll be timed beat-for-beat & not with a set BPM, because finding the exact BPM is a lot easier said than done, at least for me.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 16, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
& on an unrelated note, it's 17/12 (at least in my time zone) & no-one's suggested an alternate name, so I'm keeping it as "DTF Split-Screen Project" for the Dropbox Team.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: Adami on December 16, 2016, 03:50:37 PM
You don't need the BPM to be identical to the studio version. Just close enough. The guitarist should be setting the click to record scratch. Then the drummer can record to that, then guitars and bass to that etc.

You should also figure out recording software to make sending/recording this stuff more universal.

If it's on protools, I might be able to help with mixing or any of that stuff.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 16, 2016, 04:11:44 PM
Would the BPM have to be perfectly constant though or just decent enough to play to, because I can't seem to get the BPM that fits the song for more than a few seconds. I was thinking about just tapping out the beat while listening to the song & organising the clicks around them.

I don't have Protools, but if it's free & decently easy to use, I could get behind using it to record.


Also, the Dropbox team is up, to join, either send an email to dtfsplitscreen@gmail.com (so I can add you by your email address) or just post you email address in the thread (not recommended). Also I think you need to get a Dropbox account before I can add you, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: bosk1 on December 16, 2016, 04:48:37 PM
Well, we could also just use the official recording as our scratch track.  That would work as well, and then we wouldn't have to have a click.  We also would not necessarily have to have the drums recorded first. 

Question on vocals:  Would you guys prefer that I stick fairly closely to the original, or do my own take on the vocals?  I mean, I probably wouldn't deviate too much anyway, but it would be helpful to know what people are expecting.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: Serah Farron on December 16, 2016, 05:14:10 PM
Well, we could also just use the official recording as our scratch track.  That would work as well, and then we wouldn't have to have a click.  We also would not necessarily have to have the drums recorded first. 

Question on vocals:  Would you guys prefer that I stick fairly closely to the original, or do my own take on the vocals?  I mean, I probably wouldn't deviate too much anyway, but it would be helpful to know what people are expecting.

It'd be interesting to hear you try your own take. Maybe you can try that first and as we hear it, we can give input and feedback and you can decide from there. Will you adding those vocal effects James Labrie uses when singing Root?
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. 1st song is TROAE, deadline 31/12
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on December 18, 2016, 06:46:56 PM
Well, we could also just use the official recording as our scratch track.  That would work as well, and then we wouldn't have to have a click.  We also would not necessarily have to have the drums recorded first. 

Apologies for not answering (I was intending to later but then forgot), but to answer your question, using the original song WAS what I thought we were going to do with each of our tracks. The obvious problem with that being that there's less chemistry between band members & some performances might clash due to differing interpretations. Of course, those are just hypotheticals, so if we wanted to, we COULD try out that method, but it's no guarantee that it's going to turn out well, which is what I thought you were implying when you said you needed the click track.

Question on vocals:  Would you guys prefer that I stick fairly closely to the original, or do my own take on the vocals?  I mean, I probably wouldn't deviate too much anyway, but it would be helpful to know what people are expecting.

I'd suggest doing multiple takes for different ideas. Like I said, different ideas are going to fit better than others, but I'd say that if we knew specifically, we'd be able to get a more accurate judgement (& if not we at least have the faithful-to-original take).
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 14, 2017, 02:36:45 AM
Okay, so no-one's posted in this thread for a long time, so my first assumptions would be that either A) people aren't sure what the state of the actual first song is, B) they've already recorded tracks but don't know where to upload them, or C) they actually don't have time &/or haven't gotten the song fully learnt yet.

A) In the case of the first one (which is probably most likely, admittedly my fault), I'd say first recordings we do, use the actual song as the backing track, & record yourself playing along to the song while listening to it with headphone (obviously headphones that won't be picked up by microphones are preferable). Then once we have all our individual tracks, we can record again based on each others tracks, which will ideally leave room for more chemistry between between each of our tracks. Either way, we'll start first tracks based on the original song's track & then work our way up to that point.

B) If by the off-chance that anyone's actually finished recording but doesn't know where/how to upload the files, we're doing file uploads via a Dropbox Team that I've created. I can add people to the team in two ways (the former I'm unsure about). You can just post your Dropbox username in this thread & I might be able to add you that way, but I'm not sure about it. If you want me to invite you to the team via e-mail  (which by the looks of it, I might have to), send an email to dtfsplitscreen@gmail.com. The email can be literally anything because I'll get your email address either way, but just make sure I know your DTF name so I know who's invited in the team & who isn't. From there, I'll send you an email invite & then you should be able to join the team.

C) If you just haven't had enough time, there's not much I can do to help you other than give you more time to do it. I'm not going to introduce another deadline JUST yet (because we're still setting up & I don't know how long it's going to take), which is why I'm removing the original deadline from the thread title, but try to get everything sorted ASAP because I don't want this to take any longer than it needs to.

As for me, I've mostly nailed the song in practice (apart from 5:28-5:35, which I have no idea how to do & I'm not even sure has the part bass to begin with), but my microphone is in a weird state where I'm not sure if it works or not (I'm fairly certain it's just my computer not recognising it being plugged in, but I don't know how to set it up on another computer), so it may be a few days before you see my tracks.

In other news, my question about video editing has been unanswered, so I'll assume I'm taking that role unless someone else openly says  that they want to edit.

& likewise, it doesn't appear anyone's had any objections to the line-up, so unless anyone has any now, this will be the line-up of the first song:
Vocals: bosk1 / Guitar: Elite / Keyboard: Darklord_Lalinc or home / Bass: me / Drums: Serah Farron

Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 14, 2017, 02:40:00 AM
Oh yeah, & if anyone's wondering whether they should remain faithful to the original or try to give their own take on the song, my advice would be along the lines of this:

Well, we could also just use the official recording as our scratch track.  That would work as well, and then we wouldn't have to have a click.  We also would not necessarily have to have the drums recorded first. 

Question on vocals:  Would you guys prefer that I stick fairly closely to the original, or do my own take on the vocals?  I mean, I probably wouldn't deviate too much anyway, but it would be helpful to know what people are expecting.

It'd be interesting to hear you try your own take. Maybe you can try that first and as we hear it, we can give input and feedback and you can decide from there. Will you adding those vocal effects James Labrie uses when singing Root?
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 22, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
Well, it seems that apart from me, there's been a silence in the thread for a little over the past month. I understand people might be busy with real-life stuff right now, but I wanted to ask (& I mean these in the least sarcastic way possible) the following questions to the people involved with this:

1) Would there be a more fitting way of communicating to each other on this project? It seems as if these posts are getting a bit inadequate seeing as either no-one is seeing them or no-one is reading them all the way through. As of now, I've gotten no replies, no PM's & no e-mails to the alternate account so I think it's safe to assume that this form of communication isn't getting us anywhere fast. Suggestions for alternatives are much appreciated.

2) If people haven't been able to respond or are just choosing not to, why? I ask this partially as an extension of the previous question, but also because I think communication is important to getting a project like this off the ground, & that if there's a legitimate reason to not being able to send the e-mail to join the Dropbox team or replying to the posts in this thread (e.g. haven't had time, personal matter, don't want me to know your e-mail address, disagree with how things have been set up, etc.), I think it'd be more beneficial to voice said reasons so the rest of us (myself included) know what's going on & we aren't in the dark about the matter.

Again, I mean this in the least condescending way possible & I'm not trying to be pushy about how long the recordings are going to take because I know these things take time, but I don't think silence is exactly the answer to getting the project off the ground either, if that is indeed the reason why there's been less activity in this thread. That's all I wanted to ask. Thank you.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: Mosh on January 22, 2017, 09:05:17 PM
I don't visit this subforum regularly and I just saw this thread. I am up for participating still, but maybe it would be better to create a PM conversation for those interested so that we're notified of these things. Either way, I'm still interested. 
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 24, 2017, 12:00:46 AM
^ Sent you a PM.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: Elite on January 24, 2017, 06:34:06 AM
I have been ridiculously busy with graduation and finding a job simultaneously. On top of that I have my band to gig with, so I just haven't gotten round to giving this any effort. I have a recording of myself playing TROE, but that one's about 2-3 years old and I think it's in E, instead of in Eb.

I'm sorry for being unresponsive, but this project hasn't been my main priority. I hope that I can take the time (heh) it deserves to record the guitar parts in a good way. I just need to get some other things done first.

Also, by all means, add me to the Dropbox.

tl;dr - in response to question #2: I've been busy with other things.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 24, 2017, 09:23:37 PM
Update: Mosh & I talked through PM's & we decided that since we have more members than we need for 1 song at a time, that we could also work on another song at the same time with different members. Judging from the poll, it looks like 1928/SDV is now tied for the lead, so that's the song we're going to be doing. Note that if anyone is already doing TROAE, they don't have to do both songs (not that they would if they weren't doing it, but I felt I should make that clear anyway). If there's any issues, PM me.




I have been ridiculously busy with graduation and finding a job simultaneously. On top of that I have my band to gig with, so I just haven't gotten round to giving this any effort. I have a recording of myself playing TROE, but that one's about 2-3 years old and I think it's in E, instead of in Eb.

I'm sorry for being unresponsive, but this project hasn't been my main priority. I hope that I can take the time (heh) it deserves to record the guitar parts in a good way. I just need to get some other things done first.

Also, by all means, add me to the Dropbox.

tl;dr - in response to question #2: I've been busy with other things.

It's no problem, good luck with getting that sorted out. The project has been at a standstill for quite some time anyway, so feel free to wait until you're ready to record. Though thanks for at least saying what's been going on.

Also, I need your e-mail address to add you to the Dropbox. Post something here: dtfsplitscreen@gmail.com so I can add you.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: home on January 25, 2017, 08:07:00 AM
Hey, I've also just been really busy lately, I've my last exams for this period next tuesday and will have more time after that.

Is there already someone doing keyboards for TROAE ? If not I'm still up for it!
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 25, 2017, 05:30:29 PM
Is there already someone doing keyboards for TROAE ? If not I'm still up for it!

Actually I wasn't sure what was going on with keyboards with TROAE. I knew it was either you or Darklord doing it, but if you wanted to, I'm sure that'll be fine.

Also good luck with your exams.  :smiley:
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project POLL THREAD+ v. Setting up to record TROAE
Post by: NOMAC2107 on January 27, 2017, 02:35:15 AM
I'd love to do some vocals if there's still some available. I'd play something but I don't know any well enough to not embarrass myself trying.

Obviously not trying to step on anyone's feet. I'm new to the whole idea of this
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 27, 2017, 03:41:54 AM
Hello NOMAC2107 & welcome to the team. You've been added to the memberlist. We do rotating line-ups so yes, vocals are available. If you want to know anything else, I added a pinboard to the OP with all the essential info you'll need. Hope to see you soon.  ;)
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 27, 2017, 03:46:22 AM
UPDATE: Speaking of which, there's now a pinboard in the OP! So now you don't have to navigate walls of text to get the important updates. I'm hoping to keep this updated as regularly as I can, but hopefully it can also be a tool for people who're new to the project to get a hold on what it actually is. So now we should all be on the same page.  ;D
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on January 27, 2017, 04:07:41 AM
UPDATE: Speaking of which, there's now a pinboard in the OP! So now you don't have to navigate walls of text to get the important updates. I'm hoping to keep this updated as regularly as I can, but hopefully it can also be a tool for people who're new to the project to get a hold on what it actually is. So now we should all be on the same page.  ;D

Thanks very much. Looking forward to reading through it and working with you eventually. Cheers
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 01, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Can I sing on Regression/Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu? I love that and I can do some of the harmonies as well. I can also act as Hypnotherapist as well as doing the main vocals.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 01, 2017, 10:15:11 PM
Sure, go ahead!  :tup

I'm also pretty sure that Serah said she wanted to do the vocals for Victoria's part, though she'd have to confirm that.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 01, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
That could be cool. I'd love to hear that done.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: Mosh on February 03, 2017, 10:55:10 PM
Having different vocalists for different characters would be awesome.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 03, 2017, 11:02:16 PM
Having different vocalists for different characters would be awesome.

Agreed.  :tup

I was actually thinking of bringing something like this up if an Astonishing song won. 'Specaially since we have 5 possible singers now, that's definitely going to be something to keep in mind when that happens.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 03, 2017, 11:25:46 PM
Having different vocalists for different characters would be awesome.

Agreed.  :tup

I was actually thinking of bringing something like this up if an Astonishing song won. 'Specaially since we have 5 possible singers now, that's definitely going to be something to keep in mind when that happens.

Damn, now I really wish that an Astonishing song had made the cut.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 03, 2017, 11:28:45 PM
Having different vocalists for different characters would be awesome.

Agreed.  :tup

I was actually thinking of bringing something like this up if an Astonishing song won. 'Specaially since we have 5 possible singers now, that's definitely going to be something to keep in mind when that happens.

Damn, now I really wish that an Astonishing song had made the cut.

To be fair, there weren't really that many good options. I'll be sure to add some more after we get our current songs out of the way.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 03, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
Maybe the title track would be a good one?
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 03, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
Yeah, I'd say so. I also had a list in the old thread of songs that I thought'd be fun to do. I'll post it here when I find it.

In order of preference:
A Life Left Behind
Three Days
Moment Of Betrayal
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Also holy shit that was a year ago.  :omg:
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: Mosh on February 04, 2017, 03:36:29 PM
I am up for playing anything.
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 04, 2017, 03:39:58 PM
Still though, I'm not too sure we should start planning too far ahead too soon, especially since we're already working on 2 songs right now. I'll happily discuss options after we get one of our current songs done, but until then I'm not going out of my way to plan anything.

(Also, sorry if that sounded passive-aggressive, I didn't mean it like that)
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Post by: home on February 05, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Hey, I'm sorry but I'm not going to be able to do keyboards for TROAE soon, next semester is going to be pretty busy again, I simply won't have the time. I really hope someone else is willing to do it, and that I might join for a song some other time :azn:
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 05, 2017, 01:21:30 PM
It's fine, I'll PM Darklord & see if he wants to do it.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 05, 2017, 10:23:22 PM
Hey, guys! I'm up for The Root of all Evil. Count me in 100%.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 07, 2017, 08:49:05 AM
Have you talked about who could make the video editing/audio mixing? If anyone has risen up to the challenge yet and you guys want, I could do it. I'm a music producer as my day job and I also do some video editing as well.
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Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 07, 2017, 08:51:45 AM
I'm not sure how to go about my recording. I've merely a video camera and an iPod with decent enough mics
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 07, 2017, 02:05:23 PM
Have you talked about who could make the video editing/audio mixing? If anyone has risen up to the challenge yet and you guys want, I could do it. I'm a music producer as my day job and I also do some video editing as well.

Audio mixing I was 99% sure you were going to do it, since that's what was going to happen in the first thread.

Video editing I offered to do it if no-one else wanted to, but I guess it'd make more sense if the audio mixer & the video editor were the same person.

I'm not sure how to go about my recording. I've merely a video camera and an iPod with decent enough mics

I'd suggest having the camera rolling with you in frame throughout all your takes, so then even the good parts of the unsuccessful ones can be used in the final mix.

The iPod I have is from 2010, so I don't know how good the quality is on modern iPods, but if it sounds good enough that you wouldn't notice it was recorded on an iPod, then I guess it should be fine (though of course actual mics are preferable).

This still applies too:
Recording standards:
Make sure your instrument  is at least somewhat professionally recorded with a decent mic & amp. Some lenience is allowed but remember that your instrument can't clash with the rest of the group too much. Also try to eliminate as much background noise as possible. For recording video, make sure you get an 16:9 camera that records at at least 30fps at at least a 360p video quality, but that's all I really have to say on that matter (aside from use a tripod & make sure you're in view). Just make sure it looks & sounds decent & you'll be fine.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 07, 2017, 02:48:09 PM
Alright. Then it's done.

My e-mail address is lalocuramarine@hotmail.com. Y'all can send me a wetransfer with your audio files and your video files. I reckon we are playing to the album track, which would make everything much easier. Make sure you send me audio in .wav or other lossless formats, at least in 48KHz/16bit resolution.
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Post by: Elite on February 11, 2017, 10:17:07 AM
There is this Dropbox you can join :)

I'll be recording guitar digitally by the way. No amps or mics used. I'll record a video playing the song at a different time, so it'll essentially be a 'video-clip'. Should I do the guitar solo and the backing on separate tracks?
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 11, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
There is this Dropbox you can join :)

I'll be recording guitar digitally by the way. No amps or mics used. I'll record a video playing the song at a different time, so it'll essentially be a 'video-clip'. Should I do the guitar solo and the backing on separate tracks?
Yeah, those as separate tracks would be great.
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Post by: Elite on February 17, 2017, 10:48:45 AM
I think I can get the guitar done this week. I need to know what I'll be recording to (official song, a tempo track, etc.?). You'll all be getting audio first. I'm doing the video at a later stage once this really gets off the ground.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 17, 2017, 11:57:25 AM
Can we just have a summary post of what has been done so far on either song?
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 17, 2017, 03:33:19 PM
I think I can get the guitar done this week. I need to know what I'll be recording to (official song, a tempo track, etc.?). You'll all be getting audio first. I'm doing the video at a later stage once this really gets off the ground.

Can we just have a summary post of what has been done so far on either song?

Check the OP

Edit: Sorry, I thought that information was there but it actually wasn't. Basically we're starting out recording to the official song, but if that doesn't go well we'll shift to recording to a tempo track.

But yeah, most of the summary stuff is in the OP. Nothing's really been posted yet so it's hard to tell exactly how much progress people have made on it, but what I do know is in there.
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Post by: Elite on February 22, 2017, 07:34:11 AM
Just for my information; who is who in the Dropbox group?

I'm uploading some test versions of guitar tracks right now - basically the first half of the song until the keyboard break. Both clean-tracks and reamped tracks. Read the readme I'm posting in there as well.

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Edit: it might actually be useful to have some sort of group (Facebook?) where we can discuss stuff for this project a little more directly than through the forums (if we're really doing it this time around, that is).
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on February 22, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
Just for my information; who is who in the Dropbox group?

Mosh (ZZ), Darklord_Lalinc (EM), NOMAC2107 (CS) & I (BR)
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Post by: Elite on February 22, 2017, 03:53:38 PM
So not even everyone who's playing on TROAE is in? That needs to change.
I want to make something out of this, hence the files you all received in the Dropbox-folder. Obviously everybody would need to be able to record their own stuff to even make this work, so I hope we can really take this off the ground.

What about a Facebook-group where we can chat more directly? (See my suggestion above)
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 23, 2017, 08:12:22 PM
Hey, guys. The ROOT guitar files seem to be okay! I'm good to go with 'em. I'm recording my parts tomorrow.
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Post by: Elite on February 24, 2017, 04:22:56 AM
Okay, that's good. That means I have the right stuff to record. As stated in the readme-file in Dropbox, I will re-record the guitar parts so that there won't be any mistakes or little deficiencies in sound. I might have time to do some of that this weekend, otherwise it will be next week.

I was thinking that if we have no drummer for TROAE, we could have a go with a VST drummer. I could program MIDI drums if needed, but ideally we would need a drummer for a full band cover.
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Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 24, 2017, 04:57:47 AM
If I was able to record the drums well, I'd be able to do it. Just not sure how to get a good enough clip
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 25, 2017, 07:45:33 AM
Okay, that's good. That means I have the right stuff to record. As stated in the readme-file in Dropbox, I will re-record the guitar parts so that there won't be any mistakes or little deficiencies in sound. I might have time to do some of that this weekend, otherwise it will be next week.

I was thinking that if we have no drummer for TROAE, we could have a go with a VST drummer. I could program MIDI drums if needed, but ideally we would need a drummer for a full band cover.
I could get one right away.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on February 25, 2017, 08:20:59 AM
I'm actually pretty tight with a producer. I could potentially do a day with him and record TROAE kit and the Regression/SDV vocals. Just get a dry mix up and get some vids
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Post by: Elite on February 25, 2017, 09:23:18 AM
Okay, that's good. That means I have the right stuff to record. As stated in the readme-file in Dropbox, I will re-record the guitar parts so that there won't be any mistakes or little deficiencies in sound. I might have time to do some of that this weekend, otherwise it will be next week.

I was thinking that if we have no drummer for TROAE, we could have a go with a VST drummer. I could program MIDI drums if needed, but ideally we would need a drummer for a full band cover.
I could get one right away.

Oh, that's pretty fantastic! I'm scheduling some time next week (likely Thursday and Friday) to record all guitar parts for the entire song. I think I'm going to double-track everything, but I might quad-track it if that's what we want. Obviously, the solos will be single tracks.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: Mosh on March 17, 2017, 03:16:08 PM
Currently uploading my guitar parts to the drop box.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: Elite on March 18, 2017, 10:07:17 AM
What guitar parts?

Edit: oh wait; different song
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on April 11, 2017, 08:22:46 PM
Just posted some vocal for Regression, about to record SDV. Probably wrong though, since I'm tracking to the original and not the Dropbox file
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Post by: Elite on April 12, 2017, 01:19:43 AM
I like your voice, nice singing :tup

Hey, about this thing; since nobody is really making work of it. How are we going to continue doing this? As far as I know, we're definitely missing a drummer. I recorded some guitar parts for The Root, but these are not really that great, so I always intended to re-record them when the time comes to actually make something of it.

Can everybody in this project please give a yes or no about whether they want to continue? Maybe we need to plan something like a Skype-session where we can all see each other and have a chat about how to continue this, because clearly this isn't working through the forums and a Dropbox folder.

As for me, I still want to make something of this, but I'm not going to invest my time if others aren't going to either.
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Post by: IDontNotDoThings on April 12, 2017, 01:25:09 AM
Definitely a yes for me. As a sidenote, I might not be able to do bass for 1928/SDV because I need a 6-string bass for it (I only have a 4). I can definitely do TROAE but I just need to get a proper mic for me to use.

As for the skype group, again, I don't have a mic at the moment (or a skype account), but I'd be up for it once I do.

But yeah, I'm agreeing with you, we need something else to be done to make sure we're all focused, because it seems like a lot of us aren't (including myself).
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Post by: Elite on April 12, 2017, 01:57:21 AM
Definitely a yes for me. As a sidenote, I might not be able to do bass for 1928/SDV because I need a 6-string bass for it (I only have a 4). I can definitely do TROAE but I just need to get a proper mic for me to use.

Do you have a proper soundcard, so that you can record bass directly into your computer?
I recorded the Root guitar-parts this way and re-amped them through a digital modeling amp.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on April 12, 2017, 02:03:46 AM
Definitely a yes for me. As a sidenote, I might not be able to do bass for 1928/SDV because I need a 6-string bass for it (I only have a 4). I can definitely do TROAE but I just need to get a proper mic for me to use.

Do you have a proper soundcard, so that you can record bass directly into your computer?
I recorded the Root guitar-parts this way and re-amped them through a digital modeling amp.

Actually I'm pretty sure I have a mixing desk lying somewhere around, I just need some of the cables to hook it up properly.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: Elite on April 12, 2017, 02:05:59 AM
yeah, that will take some figuring out to do. It's probably less than ideal, but honestly, so is recording with a mic if you a) don't really know how to and b) don't have the right equipment (mics and/or amps) to make it sound good anyway.
Title: Re: DTF Split-Screen Project Thread v. We have a pinboard! (no new title changes)
Post by: NOMAC2107 on April 12, 2017, 02:47:22 AM
Definitely for me