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Title: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Scar on November 26, 2016, 12:49:11 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38114953

Did you hear about his death? He died at age 90.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: ReaperKK on November 26, 2016, 05:19:33 AM
Can't believe he is dead. He survived so many assassination attempts.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 26, 2016, 05:27:54 AM
Can't believe he is dead. He survived so many assassination attempts.

I've already seen a quote a few times that said "Fidel Castro survived 638 assassination attempts, but even he could not survive 2016".

Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: RoeDent on November 26, 2016, 05:30:47 AM
How long before this gets moved to P+R?  :corn
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Kotowboy on November 26, 2016, 05:40:48 AM
I've seen both good and bad things about him. All I know is that there was a trade embargo between Cuba & the US.

Dunno if he instigated it.

What else did he do ?

Was he a good guy or not ?

p.s. Liam Neeson should 100% play him in a biopic.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: ReaperKK on November 26, 2016, 07:01:08 AM
p.s. Liam Neeson should 100% play him in a biopic.

I 100% support this.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 26, 2016, 08:43:02 AM
RIP? More like burn in hell.

The fact the so many were willing to swim or raft in shark infested waters to try to get away from him should speak volumes.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2016, 09:29:34 AM
Yup.  To see Mike Lowell, an ex pro ball players at the same thing that he is happy to find out he's dead should say it all. 
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 26, 2016, 09:46:11 AM
RIP? More like burn in hell.

The fact the so many were willing to swim or raft in shark infested waters to try to get away from him should speak volumes.

:clap:
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Jester on November 26, 2016, 10:13:47 AM
  :-X
Everybody is entitled to their own feeling on the subject, but I try not to celebrate death.  Especially so close to the death itself.  That said, those that escaped Cuba have earned the right to celebrate without judgment.

PR thread?
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Cool Chris on November 26, 2016, 10:34:48 AM
Can't believe he is dead. He survived so many assassination attempts.

To be fair, a lot of those attempts were pretty piss-poor.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on November 26, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
RIP? More like burn in hell.

The fact the so many were willing to swim or raft in shark infested waters to try to get away from him should speak volumes.

+ 1 BILLION....

I was just reading this article no more than 20 mins ago about what this Miami Herald sportswriter went through when his family got out.  A story I'm sure you could hear from thousands of other refugees.


https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article117033883.html

Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 26, 2016, 11:32:53 AM
Rest in peace for a tyrant dictator? Absolutely not, Never.

Good riddance
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 26, 2016, 01:02:19 PM
Every person deserves to be forgiven. But, you will have to answer for your life actions.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2016, 01:25:03 PM
I don't believe everybody deserves to be forgiven.  He was never repentant
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: MinistroRaven on November 26, 2016, 03:33:14 PM
Every person deserves to be forgiven. But, you will have to answer for your life actions.

Tell that to the thousands families he murdered, inprisoned, and forced to live in exilium
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Adami on November 26, 2016, 04:21:29 PM
Are things better in Cuba now? If so, I'll celebrate that.

But I'll never celebrate a persons death. No matter how horrible they were.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 26, 2016, 07:52:52 PM
Are things better in Cuba now? If so, I'll celebrate that.

But I'll never celebrate a persons death. No matter how horrible they were.

Same here.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: KevShmev on November 26, 2016, 08:34:46 PM
I would also never celebrate someone's death, but it should go without saying that Castro doesn't deserve the R.I.P. part.  Very odd to title the thread that way.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Prog Snob on November 26, 2016, 08:49:34 PM
I don't believe everybody deserves to be forgiven.  He was never repentant

Indeed. Some people are just not meant to share the same air we do.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Skeever on November 26, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Are things better in Cuba now?

This is more of a PR topic, but I think the answer is "not really".
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: PowerSlave on November 27, 2016, 12:52:12 AM
Are things better in Cuba now? If so, I'll celebrate that.

But I'll never celebrate a persons death. No matter how horrible they were.

Under most circumstances I would agree with this. However, there are times when a person's actions have gone beyond this. He's certainly not the worst on the list, but he's on the list.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: millahh on November 27, 2016, 08:04:25 AM
I don't believe everybody deserves to be forgiven.  He was never repentant

That's not completely accurate...he did express regret about the forced labor camps for gays, called them a "great injustice" and accepted blame for them.  That is only a piece of the injustices he perpetrated against LGBTQ, and LGBTQ was only one one the demographics that suffered greatly under him, but it's also not nothing.  It probably helps that his neice is the leader of the LGBTQ rights movement in the country...
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2016, 08:18:23 AM
So one regret over many atrocities.


I still have not empathy for him.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: millahh on November 27, 2016, 09:27:21 AM
So one regret over many atrocities.


I still have not empathy for him.

Not saying you or anyone else should...I just like being pedantic :)
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2016, 09:30:14 AM
 :lol

There are very few people I see sympathy for.  He is on the list.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: El Barto on November 27, 2016, 09:52:39 AM
Myself, I have almost no clue what he's actually guilty of. Two things I do know: A. There are actual, honest to goodness Cubanos that liked what he had to do. B. I put very little stock in what I hear about other nations from dissidents and the CIA. In fact, it's probably just as safe to assume the opposite.

This is not a defense of The Beard. Only an observation that what we know of his misdeeds includes a great deal that's likely misstated and exaggerated.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2016, 09:56:39 AM
When you hear many people talk about the horrors and what they did to escape,  that is enough evidence.  It's not just a few people.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Jester on November 27, 2016, 10:25:34 AM
Kind of hard to claim his adversaries were just making stuff up when the sole rule of the nation he established is under one family and the majority of it under one person.  That's not "the people's" revolution, that's the Castro power grab.  I tend to not care for dictators as a rule of thumb.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Skeever on November 27, 2016, 10:31:06 AM
One of my college professors had left Cuba. He was the most progressive commie professor I had. He was also openly gay, which apparently didn't fly with Castro until his niece came along and started to go to bat for LGBTQ members of Cuba (prior to that, they went to labor camps).
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Jester on November 27, 2016, 10:37:24 AM
So on the LGBTQ awakening, it was, again, Castro-centric.
Title: Re: Rest in Peace Fidel Castro
Post by: Outcrier on November 27, 2016, 10:44:42 AM
RIP? More like burn in hell.

At least, he's gonna reunite with his friend Che there.