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General => Musicians => Topic started by: 73109 on August 24, 2009, 10:33:55 AM
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Okay, first off, get all the jerking off jokes done right now.
Second. For as long as I can remember the idea of soloing never really appealed to me. I really have no interest in learning how to solo, but what I have always be really intrigued by, was the dude making the fucking brickwall of sound behind the solo. I have always been interested in rhthym and when I start a band, I will be the rhythym guitarist. However, in order to be a great metal rhythym player (James Hetfield) you need a machine gun for a right hand. Any suggestions of how to build up speed and strength in my forearm and picking hand.
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Metronome. And don't do it as Hetfield, 'cause he only plays downstrokes and that kinda stops your machinegun from going ultramegarampageChuckNorrisworlddomination-mode..
Start out playing slowly to the pulse of a metronome, preferably somewhere around 60 bpm and then increase it. I would suggest you go for something like this : eights, triplets, sixteenths, thirtytwo, sixtyfours. And make sure you do triplets to all of them. If you do this 15 min everyday you will surely notice a whole lot of improvement.
BUT remember to do ups AND downs.. Not only downstrokes, cause that makes your arm go ouch and your shoulder will fall off.
Cheers! :heart
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I disagree. Learning speed by doing a lot of down-only riff work will build tremendous strength and speed.
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I disagree. Learning speed by doing a lot of down-only riff work will build tremendous strength and speed.
I wanted to say that, but I didn't want to seem dickish.
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Fap alot.
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why would you need speed for rhythm guitar?
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why would you need speed for rhythm guitar?
:facepalm:
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why would you need speed for rhythm guitar?
Not only is strength for speed, but believe it or not how hard you play something actually affects how it sounds.
And if you're into the more heavy side of things, speed is often needed, along with good dexterity.
Example of good fast/heavy rhythm guitars for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ov-Zk-KX4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ov-Zk-KX4)
Not just main parts, but the little details and embellishments you hear. Check the playing about 4 mins in onwards if you can't listen all the way through.
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seriously? just practice, its the best way to do it. you have to spend time on it so just do it.
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Metronome...
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I disagree. Learning speed by doing a lot of down-only riff work will build tremendous strength and speed.
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spend time practicing both alternate picking and all downstrokes. for rhythm in metal, you want to use downstrokes whenever possible (think of your standard chugging riff). watch JP play Pull Me Under (i'm thinking of the part before the 2nd verse) for an example.
i'd recommend just learning some thrash metal or tech death songs in addition to metronome practice (which gets boring as hell).
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i'd recommend just learning some thrash metal or tech death songs in addition to metronome practice (which gets boring as hell).
This. Just chugging away on a metronome sucks ass.
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As others have said, get a metronome. Take any demanding phrase and start out slowly enough that you can play the entire sequence 100% correct, but not so slow that you aren't challenged just a hair. When you can play it straight through several times with no mistakes, bump it up about 5 bpm or so. The time spent using this approach will build up forearm strength from the repetition as well as help to build up right hand speed, from the constant increase in bpm.
Also, once you get a metronome, learn my favorite Paul Gilbert guitar solo:
https://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/guitarcozmo/DBLLBSolo.jpg
(I chose to link the pic because when I put it inline, it looked a little funny). Enjoy!
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Hand grips. My forearms are really big now and i'm only still on 150 can almost close 200
https://www.amazon.com/Set-of-6-Heavy-Grips/dp/B000LLI9G0/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1252091891&sr=8-14
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Hand grips. My forearms are really big now and i'm only still on 150 can almost close 200
https://www.amazon.com/Set-of-6-Heavy-Grips/dp/B000LLI9G0/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1252091891&sr=8-14
NONONONONO
these are a HORRIBLE idea for instrumentalists 1. they do not exercise the muscles that you need to play with, and 2. they can lead to a lot of muscle problems down the road, things like carpal tunnel, which will destroy you in the end.
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Hand grips. My forearms are really big now and i'm only still on 150 can almost close 200
https://www.amazon.com/Set-of-6-Heavy-Grips/dp/B000LLI9G0/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1252091891&sr=8-14
NONONONONO
these are a HORRIBLE idea for instrumentalists 1. they do not exercise the muscles that you need to play with, and 2. they can lead to a lot of muscle problems down the road, things like carpal tunnel, which will destroy you in the end.
I have to agree with this post, while helping build different muscles in your arms and shoulders they don't focus on the specific needs of learning an instrument.
Most importantly of all it isn't necessarily muscles that you want to be exercising to play better. While muscles obviously play an important part in the learning of any instrument, they are not the most important aspect of playing said instrument. Muscle memory comes into play for practicing every day and has an important part but more so in short term playing. The aspect that is often overlooked is the growth of new nerves while playing/practicing on an instrument for many hours every day for weeks/months/years at a time. This is where advanced long term playing comes into play. My advice would be to try many different techniques while playing rhythm guitar, especially techniques that you have trouble with and aren't nearly as good at. Taking in as many different techniques and types of playing (down picking, alternate picking, economy picking, up picking etc.) will help you grow all the nerves necessary and train the different muscles necessary for taking on almost any song and style of different guitarist you want.
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To the best of my memory (It's been so long since i made an effort to learn to open notes faster!), fast precise picking comes from the smallest possible movements whilst still picking the string. Its worth just spending some time picking open strings and keeping an eye on a reflection of your right hand and practicing doing the smallest possible motion whilst alternate picking averagely hard at a slow to medium tempo.