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Title: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2016, 11:28:15 AM
I didn't see a new thread for this season of college football that is upon us.  First games kick off in one week!

I have pretty low expectations for PSU this year, but lots of reasons for optimism specifically on offense as they got a new offensive coordinator who is bringing a much more up tempo offense and it appears of new QB may be perfect for the system, plus PSU has arguably the best running back in the B10 and maybe the best set of receivers as well.  If they can put everything together and improve the OL (which was terrible the last two years) then there is good reason to be optimistic, but I think 8-4 would be a good season for them and 7-5 seems very realistic at this point.  Also they have a tough schedule.

I will be going to the home opener next weekend against Kent State and also got my father tickets to see PSU play at Rutgers in a night game in November which should be interesting as the away team in a hostile environment.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 25, 2016, 11:59:03 AM
I am super excited for the start of college football season!

The two teams I mainly pull for, North Carolina and my alma mater Appalachian State, have interesting opportunities before them this season.

UNC had a fantastic season last year, but a soft non-conference schedule hurt them in the public eye.  They have remedied that a little with a first game against Georgia this season, and the game against Florida State will be a good opportunity, but they will still need plenty of help.

Meanwhile, Appalachian State, coming off an 11-win season, returns a shit load of players, and they start off at #9 Tennessee, and in week 3 they host Miami.  If they win both of those games, and run the table in their conference, who knows what could happen?  Maybe winning the Group of 5 and getting into a great bowl game!

First game of the season is this Friday - Cal vs. Hawaii, from Australia.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2016, 12:20:02 PM
First game of the season is this Friday - Cal vs. Hawaii, from Australia.

Oh really? wow didnt see that but thats crazy it's being played in Australia.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 25, 2016, 01:10:20 PM
That's why it is a week before any other games.  It will take them that long to get back lol
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on August 25, 2016, 09:17:30 PM
My Dawgs are ranked 14th. I can hardly wait to watch it unfold. Mighty are the men who wear the purple and the gold. Those dogs are snarling in Montlake this year for sure.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on August 26, 2016, 08:17:48 AM
On Wisconsin!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on August 26, 2016, 08:22:48 AM
So, anyone have a team/school they want to see completely disgraced?  I was a Penn State fan for the longest time...then after everything with Sandusky and the organizational enabling of him came to light, my primary allegiance became Baylor (wife is an alum).  Given that track record, I'm thinking I should become an FSU fan, and they'll get what's coming to them.  But, I'm open to other suggestions (or possibly even bids?)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on August 26, 2016, 08:28:34 AM
So, anyone have a team/school they want to see completely disgraced?  I was a Penn State fan for the longest time...then after everything with Sandusky and the organizational enabling of him came to light, my primary allegiance became Baylor (wife is an alum).  Given that track record, I'm thinking I should become an FSU fan, and they'll get what's coming to them.  But, I'm open to other suggestions (or possibly even bids?)

Come back to PSU.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 26, 2016, 09:54:35 AM
My Dawgs are ranked 14th. I can hardly wait to watch it unfold. Mighty are the men who wear the purple and the gold. Those dogs are snarling in Montlake this year for sure.
Wow, I think they are going to have a really good year.  It would surely be good to see some new blood in the CF Playoff, huh?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on August 26, 2016, 11:47:51 AM
I'm ready! Hoping for a better season from Nebraska. Lost too many close games last year. We have the talent to make it to the Big 10 title game.  At Wisconsin and At Ohio St. are going to be tough. Looking forward to the Oregon game week 3! One more week!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on August 26, 2016, 12:45:22 PM
I'm ready! Hoping for a better season from Nebraska. Lost too many close games last year. We have the talent to make it to the Big 10 title game.  At Wisconsin and At Ohio St. are going to be tough. Looking forward to the Oregon game week 3! One more week!

I'd like to see Nebraska get back to being the team they used to be.  They should have a good shot at the Big10 West this year.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on August 26, 2016, 03:30:16 PM
Kinda tough to gauge how Cal will be since we lost our star no. 1 draft pick qb, so I'm going into this with an open mind. I am excited to be welcoming U Texas to Berkeley, hoping we can lay some pain on them on national TV and get a little respect rolling.



:gobears:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on August 26, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
So, anyone have a team/school they want to see completely disgraced?  I was a Penn State fan for the longest time...then after everything with Sandusky and the organizational enabling of him came to light, my primary allegiance became Baylor (wife is an alum).  Given that track record, I'm thinking I should become an FSU fan, and they'll get what's coming to them.  But, I'm open to other suggestions (or possibly even bids?)

If you can guarantee a curse worse than Penn State or Baylor, by all means back Notre Damn.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on August 26, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
So, anyone have a team/school they want to see completely disgraced?  I was a Penn State fan for the longest time...then after everything with Sandusky and the organizational enabling of him came to light, my primary allegiance became Baylor (wife is an alum).  Given that track record, I'm thinking I should become an FSU fan, and they'll get what's coming to them.  But, I'm open to other suggestions (or possibly even bids?)

If you can guarantee a curse worse than Penn State or Baylor, by all means back Notre Damn.

I can get on board with this  :lol

And if we are just talking about the football aspect of these scandals, PSU ended up "surviving" per se.  Like they didn't even have a losing season during that stretch and this is the first season back at full scholarships.  I think Baylor may end up having a much more difficult road returning to the level they've been at.  But that is still TBD.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on August 26, 2016, 04:49:41 PM
I was thinking football and beyond...both schools lost their HC, AD and president (plus a few more admin at PSU).  Will be interesting to see what happens w/ Baylor, they have farther to fall then PSU did at the time, but also don't have the scholarship issues.

Notre Dame is a good candidate, but the dislike of them is so hard-wired into me that I'm not sure I could stomach it even if it meant it would bring them crashing down in a few years...
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on August 26, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
Baylor just doesn't have the history that PSU has to fall back on with recruits.  PSU recruiting was terrible those years, but mostly due to not enough scholarships rather than getting talent.  I feel like Baylor will struggle with talent due to the issues mostly because Baylor does not have as large of a history and as large of a foot in their own state for recruiting.  USC was similar to PSU, where they survived the NCAA sanctions on name brand to still grab talent.  USC also did that much better than PSU.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on August 26, 2016, 09:17:51 PM
Notre Dame is a good candidate, but the dislike of them is so hard-wired into me that I'm not sure I could stomach it even if it meant it would bring them crashing down in a few years...

That just means you are a decent human being.  As I've said before, if Notre Damn played al Qaeda, I would root for al Qaeda.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 27, 2016, 07:08:37 AM
Glad to see that no defense was played in the season's first game last night lol
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on August 27, 2016, 08:52:11 PM
Glad to see that no defense was played in the season's first game last night lol

Whatever....1-0 baby!!!!  :gobears:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on August 29, 2016, 07:25:51 AM
I'm ready! Hoping for a better season from Nebraska. Lost too many close games last year. We have the talent to make it to the Big 10 title game.  At Wisconsin and At Ohio St. are going to be tough. Looking forward to the Oregon game week 3! One more week!

I'd like to see Nebraska get back to being the team they used to be.  They should have a good shot at the Big10 West this year.

Me too! I think we're heading in the right direction and we have had a great recruiting year compared to the last decade so the future looks bright. I don't trust Tommy Armstrong and until we get a solid starting QB we're going to be an above average program.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 29, 2016, 07:35:01 AM
Glad to see that no defense was played in the season's first game last night lol

Whatever....1-0 baby!!!!  :gobears:
Fine with me, pal.  I prefer my college football with lots of offense.  :tup
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 01, 2016, 07:44:32 AM
Tonight's the night!  College football on a massive scale!

App State at Tennessee!  Go Mountaineers!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 01, 2016, 07:46:11 AM
 :yarr

Cancelled my plans to go to PSU this weekend.  I'm happy about it though, my wallet is feeling pretty light after this summer.  I am super pumped to watch some college ball on TV though.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on September 02, 2016, 06:40:43 AM
Shocker, Tennessee is overrated. Who didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 02, 2016, 06:58:35 AM
Shocker, Tennessee is overrated. Who didn't see that coming.

They may be, but I don't think it's as bad as it seems.  Appy isn't a terrible team and it's the first game of the season so sometimes teams are a bit rusty.  I mean, Tennessee certainly could be not so good, but I personally am not going to jump on that ship just yet.  Also, since they did steal PSU's defensive coordinator, I am actively rooting against Tennessee.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on September 02, 2016, 11:44:43 AM
Shocker, Tennessee is overrated. Who didn't see that coming.

They may be, but I don't think it's as bad as it seems.  Appy isn't a terrible team and it's the first game of the season so sometimes teams are a bit rusty.  I mean, Tennessee certainly could be not so good, but I personally am not going to jump on that ship just yet.  Also, since they did steal PSU's defensive coordinator, I am actively rooting against Tennessee.

I am a life long Tennessee fan, but when the pre season rankings came out it was a joke.  They have a suspect offensive line and Dobbs has not convinced me that the passing game has improved.  App. State is quick on defense and have a solid quarterback.  They should have a great season.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 02, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
Sad to see my Mountaineers let that one slip away.  It was ours for the taking, but a couple breaks went Tennessee's way, and our freshman kicker had a tough game.

Tennessee was very lucky.  We should have won it.

Proud to be a Mountaineer.  Miami Hurricanes visit Boone in 2 weeks, and they better be ready.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on September 03, 2016, 07:29:07 AM
game day!

I don't think Bucky has a chance to beat LSU, but maybe the Lambeau magic will help them out.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on September 03, 2016, 09:14:01 AM
game day!

I don't think Bucky has a chance to beat LSU, but maybe the Lambeau magic will help them out.

Lots of folks out for game day on ESPN.  Weather looks great.

Hef, did the storm affect where you live in NC?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on September 03, 2016, 04:59:22 PM
Geaux home LSU.

SEC-ya later.

ON WISCONSIN!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 03, 2016, 08:51:19 PM
I'm only about two miles from Hef, it rained all Friday, but was generally nice today.

I think it is time to rename "Big game Bob" Stoops "Big bully Stoops" because they don't show up in big games, and just wail on the Kansaslols of football for the most part.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on September 04, 2016, 12:19:20 AM
Lots of folks out for game day on ESPN.  Weather looks great.

Anyone here ever go to a College Gameday live spot? They were at UW a couple years back, thought about going, ended up being a rare Saturday when I had to work. Warren Moon was there. Hope Solo on the panel because, well, having Jerramy Stevens would have turned the panel in to an AA meeting. Ended up getting killed by Oregon.

UW is looking good this year. Chris Peterson was a huge pickup by them after the Willingham-Sark era of disaster.

Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 04, 2016, 09:46:29 PM
I have been to Gameday twice, once at Penn State and once at VT.  It's better on TV than it is live.

In other news, Noter Damn lost to Texas, so I'm as happy as an 80s banker with an eight ball and two high priced hookers.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 06, 2016, 07:17:42 AM
Hef, did the storm affect where you live in NC?

I'm only about two miles from Hef, it rained all Friday, but was generally nice today.
Well, this  :lol

I think some high school games on Friday night may have been affected, but games went on Saturday as scheduled.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 10, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
So upset PSU lost, but that was one hell of a game and one hell of a comeback for this young team against a more experienced team on the road.  Turnovers and a terrible run defense cost PSU the game, but it was really fun and exciting to watch regardless. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: DragonAttack on September 10, 2016, 04:39:49 PM
An absolute brain fart by the refs allows Central Michigan an untimed down, leading to this crazy ending

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17514343/central-michigan-chippewas-wrongly-get-extra-play-upset-no-22-oklahoma-state-cowboys

That said....'Fire Up, Chips!!!'
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 10, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
An absolute brain fart by the refs allows Central Michigan an untimed down, leading to this crazy ending

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17514343/central-michigan-chippewas-wrongly-get-extra-play-upset-no-22-oklahoma-state-cowboys

That said....'Fire Up, Chips!!!'

Yea, crazy ending to that one, not just the ref fuck up, but the play itself is insane!  I'd be so mad if I was a cowboy fan.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 12, 2016, 07:30:55 AM
Very excited that my alma mater, Appalachian State, has a ranked FBS team visiting our stadium for the first time ever this week (The U - Miami Hurricanes), and that it will be broadcast on ESPN!

Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on September 12, 2016, 07:32:57 AM
Huge game for the Huskers this week against Oregon. They have the talent to beat the Ducks if they don't beat themselves with stupid penalties and turnovers.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 12, 2016, 07:33:38 AM
Huge game for the Huskers this week against Oregon. They have the talent to beat the Ducks if they don't beat themselves with stupid penalties and turnovers.
Yeah, that should be a fun game, and a good opportunity!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on September 13, 2016, 06:47:43 AM
I was thinking football and beyond...both schools lost their HC, AD and president (plus a few more admin at PSU).  Will be interesting to see what happens w/ Baylor, they have farther to fall then PSU did at the time, but also don't have the scholarship issues.

Notre Dame is a good candidate, but the dislike of them is so hard-wired into me that I'm not sure I could stomach it even if it meant it would bring them crashing down in a few years...

May I request BYU? Please bring them down with your toxic fandom!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Snow Dog on September 13, 2016, 08:24:34 AM
I was thinking football and beyond...both schools lost their HC, AD and president (plus a few more admin at PSU).  Will be interesting to see what happens w/ Baylor, they have farther to fall then PSU did at the time, but also don't have the scholarship issues.

Notre Dame is a good candidate, but the dislike of them is so hard-wired into me that I'm not sure I could stomach it even if it meant it would bring them crashing down in a few years...

May I request BYU? Please bring them down with your toxic fandom!

I second this. As a University of Utah alum, any time BYU goes down is a good day in my book.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on September 13, 2016, 08:08:43 PM
Cal is gonna get bent over in front of a national audience by Texas. This isn't gonna be pretty.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 14, 2016, 10:13:06 AM
Cal is gonna get bent over in front of a national audience by Texas. This isn't gonna be pretty.
Maybe not.  I've seen no evidence of consistency from Texas.  We'll see.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on September 15, 2016, 05:26:44 PM
Cal is gonna get bent over in front of a national audience by Texas. This isn't gonna be pretty.
Maybe not.  I've seen no evidence of consistency from Texas.  We'll see.

The boss set me up with a pair of tickets, so I guess I'll be seeing firsthand. First american football game for the GF ever, should be a great environment for a first visit.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 16, 2016, 07:30:24 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 17, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Lolhawkeyes.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on September 17, 2016, 05:22:52 PM
lolFSU
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on September 17, 2016, 06:48:56 PM
What a great win for the Huskers! Very entertaining game. Nebraska should be 7-0 going into Wisconsin.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on September 18, 2016, 06:06:40 AM
lolTexas




:gobears:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 18, 2016, 07:48:29 AM
Pretty good college football saturday it was
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on September 18, 2016, 08:00:57 AM
Badgers were a 35 point favorite against Georgia St. and were behind 17-13 in the fourth, ending up winning 23-17.

@Michigan St., @Michigan, home to Ohio St. the next three games. 

I fear 0-3.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 18, 2016, 09:26:03 AM
Mizzou's coaching staff blew a 'W' over Georgia last night. They had ran the ball every snap of the drive in order to kill some time (8ish minutes to go in the game) are on their 30 yd line up by 6....3rd and 6ish and instead of calling another run to set up a nice FG (kicker had already hit a 46yd'er) to go up by 9 they take a shot at the end zone and it gets picked.

Still managed to force a punt and then resumed some cheesy play calls like there was only a minute to go in the game. Georgia goes down and scores with a minute to go in the game and wins by 1.

Coaching staff should be ashamed of themselves for costing their players the game because Mizzo owned 98% of that game....
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: KevShmev on September 18, 2016, 10:09:03 AM
I actually saw all of that game, since I was at a fantasy hockey draft and it was on the whole time.  I was fine with them throwing on that 3rd down; it was just a bad throw by a QB who had otherwise played really well.  I don't think the FG was a given either, since all of the guys at our draft who know college ball a lot were saying Mizzou's kicker isn't that good, despite having hit that 46-yarder.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 18, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
I actually saw all of that game, since I was at a fantasy hockey draft and it was on the whole time.  I was fine with them throwing on that 3rd down; it was just a bad throw by a QB who had otherwise played really well.  I don't think the FG was a given either, since all of the guys at our draft who know college ball a lot were saying Mizzou's kicker isn't that good, despite having hit that 46-yarder.

Ehh.....I still think you run it and have a good chance at going up by two scores. Oh well.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 19, 2016, 01:20:27 PM
Louisville looked ungodly Saturday.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 19, 2016, 01:33:57 PM
Louisville looked ungodly Saturday.

Yea, Lamar Jackson looks like he is something special.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on September 22, 2016, 11:23:53 AM
I would love for someone besides Alabama to win the NC.  I am a Tennessee fan, but have a feeling that this replacement Quarterback for Florida is going to pick the Vols secondary apart.  Plus the fact that our offensive line sucks and our QB cannot hit open receivers.

The Louisville at  Clemson game should be a good one in October.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 22, 2016, 11:59:25 AM
I would love for someone besides Alabama to win the NC. 
So would most college football fans. 

I loathe Alabama.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on September 23, 2016, 07:54:36 AM
Could be a trap game for Nebraska at Northwestern this week. Coming off a huge win vs Oregon and the first road game and conference game could be a recipe for a let down. Nebraska should win but they've had tendency to lay eggs against teams they should easily beat. We'll see.

And yes, Alabama needs to not win this year.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 23, 2016, 07:59:21 AM
Yea Nebraska should win, Northwestern is not a difficult away game and they don't look to be that typical scrappy NW team Fitzgerald usually fields.

Definitely looking like PSU is going to get spanked by Michigan tomorrow.  I just hope they can keep it close so it's still a game in the 4th quarter, but given how bad PSU's defense is, I just see them scoring 40+ points and PSU maybe getting upper 20s/lower 30s.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on September 23, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Cold and rain in the forecast for the stadium tonight for the game against USC. Go Utes!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
Nice to see Clemson finally look like Clemson last night.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Snow Dog on September 23, 2016, 07:49:03 PM
Cold and rain in the forecast for the stadium tonight for the game against USC. Go Utes!

Given that you earlier posted a distaste for BYU, and now you're saying, "Go Utes," you're undoubtedly connected with Utah somehow, and my curiosity is piqued as to how.  Regardless, I approve.

(https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/snowdog80/datz-wassup-bro_zpsn7obmptg.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on September 24, 2016, 08:37:40 AM
I live in Salt Lake City, Sir Dog. I forget that not everyone knows that.

I have one child who is a U of U graduate and another who will be next Spring. My wife is an Alum. My eldest granddaughter is planning on going to the U. We are season ticket holders for football, basketball and gymnastics...so, yeah, we bleed red around here.

What a game last night. Those last two drives by the Utes were intense!

USC played hard and are quite talented so I felt a little sorry for them...NOT!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Snow Dog on September 24, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
Yeah, being a relative newbie around here, I have a long way to go with learning about people's specifics.  Very cool about having so many of your family attend the U. Growing up in Salt Lake and living there for 28 years before moving to Oregon, I'm an alum myself, so any time the Utes are playing, I'm doing my best to watch on TV. I was at the game in Eugene last year when Utah put that 60+ point spanking on the Ducks. THAT was fun!

As for last night's game, what a comeback! Yes, definitely a couple of amazing drives with some intense 4th down conversions (and that PI from deep in our zone helped a ton too). And just like BYU, any time the Condoms go down is a good day in my book.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on September 24, 2016, 07:12:40 PM
I admit I was wrong about Tennessee, at least for the second half.  After so many dropped passes and broken pass coverage in the first half, I thought an 18 point deficit would be too much, but they responded.  Should give them some confidence for the future.  Georgia will be a tough game on the road.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 24, 2016, 10:16:58 PM
At least Ole Miss finally learned that games are not 25 minutes.

I'm surprised by the smackdown Wisky put on Sparty.

Not that people need any more reasons to hate Baylor these days, and they aren't the first to do it, but schools that put names in the same color as the jerseys should be have to start games down 50 points.  What blind doofus thought that was a good idea?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: pogoowner on September 24, 2016, 10:25:49 PM
Crazy win by Stanford tonight, and quite the backdoor cover.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: KevShmev on September 24, 2016, 10:29:28 PM
Crazy win by Stanford tonight, and quite the backdoor cover.

I saw the last few minutes of that.  Shit like that is why I stopped betting nearly 20 years ago. :lol :lol (I bet a lot from ages 19-25, if 25 bucks on a few games a week can be considered a lot :lol)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on September 25, 2016, 06:15:48 AM
Notre Dame dropping to 1-3 on a loss to Duke is so good it has to be fattening.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 25, 2016, 08:41:55 AM
What makes it even better is it might signal the return of the Brian Kelly that got so pissed off in a game against USF that his entire head was fire engine red from yelling at his players.

(https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/345/179/is_brian_kelly_too_angry_to_be_notre_dames_head_coach_original_crop_340x234.jpg?1315402240)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on September 25, 2016, 02:59:14 PM
And Les Miles seems to be out at LSU
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on September 25, 2016, 03:07:35 PM
That was obvious but didn't see it coming now!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 26, 2016, 08:33:23 AM
Notre Dame dropping to 1-3 on a loss to Duke is so good it has to be fattening.
Hard for a Tar Heel fan to be happy for a Duke win, but this is probably the exception lol
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on September 29, 2016, 09:31:44 AM
So, Lonestar, the Utes are visiting Cal Saturday. Are we going for a friendly bet like last year?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 29, 2016, 10:32:08 AM
Looking forward to Clemson/Louisville Saturday night.  If Clemson remembers they are Clemson, it could be a good game.  Otherwise, it will be another slaughter for Louisville.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on September 29, 2016, 10:39:34 AM
Looking forward to Clemson/Louisville Saturday night.  If Clemson remembers they are Clemson, it could be a good game.  Otherwise, it will be another slaughter for Louisville.

Yea, thats a big time match up.  Winner has the path to the championship in their hands.

Penn State has two winnable games at home coming up before Ohio State.  They need to win these two to get to a bowl game and have any shot of finishing with a solid record.  Saturday will show a lot against Minnesota.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on September 29, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
Just heard that within this calendar year, Notre Dame beat Duke in basketball at Duke, and Duke beat Notre Dame in football at Notre Dame. Ponder that for a minute.

Go UW tomorrow night under the lights!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on September 30, 2016, 07:52:44 AM
Badgers kicker out for the year with a bad back and then Thursday night their defensive captain is reported to have a broken foot and is out 2-4 weeks.

Not what you want to hear going into Michigan.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on September 30, 2016, 08:18:58 PM
Owwww-WoooOOOooo!! Let's Go Huskies!!! Woof!Woof!Woof!  :metal
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on September 30, 2016, 10:00:44 PM
So, Lonestar, the Utes are visiting Cal Saturday. Are we going for a friendly bet like last year?

Sure. Shall we bet avatars for a week again? (even though I haven't changed mine lol)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on September 30, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
Bow down Stanford! See you next week Ducks!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on September 30, 2016, 10:46:28 PM
Bow down Stanford! See you next week Ducks!

Mighty are the men who wear the Purple and the Gold
Joyfully we welcome them within the victors fold...

 :metal

WE'RE BAAAAACK!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on September 30, 2016, 11:47:08 PM
Wow....what a fucking beatdown. Cal better enjoy that Texas win, cause I think it's gonna be a long conference season...



:gobears:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on October 01, 2016, 06:39:33 AM
So, Lonestar, the Utes are visiting Cal Saturday. Are we going for a friendly bet like last year?

Sure. Shall we bet avatars for a week again? (even though I haven't changed mine lol)


Ha, I hadn't noticed since I don't have avatars visible. But lets go for it, I promise not to be so nice this time if the Utes win again.  :)

We've got a home game coming up against Washington. Should be fun!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Snow Dog on October 01, 2016, 07:40:29 AM
If Washington keeps that kind of play up, they're my favorite to win he PAC-12, objectively speaking. Sure, I'd love it if Utah could take it, but they'd have to play lights out after witnessing that utter destruction of Stanford last night. I absolutely did not think that game would be so lopsided.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on October 01, 2016, 04:49:51 PM
 Excellent first quarter for Cal lonestar!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on October 01, 2016, 05:40:28 PM
Did anyone catch the end of the Tennessee-Georgia game?  UT takes the lead with 2.30 left, then Georgia takes the lead with 15 seconds left and then UT scores on a hail mary to win the game.  Looking forward to the Clemson/Louisville game tonight.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on October 01, 2016, 06:58:05 PM
Congrats, Lonestar. What s great offence your team has. Very impressive!!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on October 01, 2016, 07:30:01 PM
:gobears:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on October 02, 2016, 10:28:49 AM
Bucky played hard but Michigans d-line dominated the Badgers o-line.  Still had a chance to win though.

Guess they'll take out their frustrations on Ohio St. In two weeks.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 03, 2016, 07:08:51 AM
Clemson over Louisville was a hell of a game.  IMO, Louisville is still a Top 5 team even in the loss.

Also, that UNC comeback against Florida State was glorious.

Washington looks fantastic right now.

How about Tennessee?

And WTF is up with Cal, RJ?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 03, 2016, 07:57:24 AM
Yea that Clemson/Lousville game was intense.  Lots of good game Saturday including PSU coming up with a comeback win in OT.  Much needed.  This week they play an undefeated Maryland team that may light up our injured defense.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on October 04, 2016, 06:36:46 AM

And WTF is up with Cal, RJ?

 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on October 09, 2016, 07:37:14 AM
Bow Down to Washington!

We're baaaaaaack!!!

 :lol

This was how fierce our D played the year we beat Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl.

WE were the Purple Reign Defense. But I swear this team makes it easy to share that moniker. They can't play ahead of themselves, and if they don't can easily run the table.

We want Alabama.... :xbones
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 09, 2016, 08:55:30 AM
Yea I'd love to see a new team like Washington get in the mix and give it to alabama. Washington looks legit for sure.

Happily surprised to see PSU pummel Maryland.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on October 10, 2016, 08:23:45 AM
TempusVox,

Yeah, Washington looks great! Other than when you play Utah, I'm pulling for your guys to win out too. The PAC12 needs a powerful representative to get into the playoffs. Stay healthy, because injuries are a bitch.

Hey, Lonestar. I don't remember how long our bet was for but I think it was just for a week. I'm going to change my avatar back now. :)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on October 10, 2016, 07:30:57 PM
It was a week. I better get mine ready, got the same bet with Splent for the Giants/Cubs series....
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on October 13, 2016, 09:31:56 AM
Fearing a trap game against Indiana who has solid defense. This should be the Huskers first real road test of the year.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 15, 2016, 09:01:16 PM
Noter Damn is 2-5, and while not likely, could conceivably lose their last 5 games.  Please make that happen.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 16, 2016, 07:20:22 AM
Ive been sick the last couple days and the benefit was a Saturday in bed and got to watch more games than I had in awhile. Clemson got a gift and Ohio state really touched that game out. I also love how ND is terrible. Alabama is once again legit. Nebraska looks like they got the big10 west, are they last year's Iowa?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on October 16, 2016, 08:18:20 AM
another tough loss for Bucky Badger.

if they don't have a let down next week after getting through this brutal schedule they should run the table and get another crack at Michigan or OSU in the title game.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on October 16, 2016, 09:32:41 AM
Bama has a good chance to finish undefeated with 4 of 5 final games are at home.  Can LSU, Mississippi State or Texas A&M hang with them? A weak east conference almost ensures they will win the SEC championship game. 

Who will the other three playoff teams be?  Clemson or Louisville have a shot along with the winner of Ohio State and Michigan.

Of course you cannot count Washington out, although they have some tough games ahead.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on October 17, 2016, 08:19:19 AM
Ive been sick the last couple days and the benefit was a Saturday in bed and got to watch more games than I had in awhile. Clemson got a gift and Ohio state really touched that game out. I also love how ND is terrible. Alabama is once again legit. Nebraska looks like they got the big10 west, are they last year's Iowa?

This is the best Husker team in years. The defense is great but the inconsistent offense is going to kill us against quality opponents like Wisconsin and Ohio State. I'm hoping to win 1 of those 2 games and not getting blown out would be great. But if we end up 10-2 I'll be happy. Riley has so far proven that he was the right coaching hire.

Clemson has some issues. At this point I wouldn't be surprise if the Big 10 gets two teams in the playoff.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 17, 2016, 10:06:52 AM
Clemson has definitely played to the level of its competition this season, but NC State is better than most people think, and they have always played Clemson tough.  Clemson was lucky to win, with NC State's missed FG, but State is solid and played hard.

IMO, the two best teams right now are Alabama and Ohio State.  I don't think Bama will really be tested until the playoff.

ATM, my playoff forecast is: Alabama, Ohio State, Washington, Clemson/Louisville.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on October 17, 2016, 10:26:05 AM
I honestly wasn't that impressed with Ohio State against Wisconsin. I can't wait for the Ohio St./Michigan game which will very probably determine the Big 10 Champ. However, we could get a Wisconsin rematch in the title game which would be great. Unless of course my Huskers beat Wisconsin in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 17, 2016, 10:58:47 AM
I think Wisconsin is really good.  That was pretty impressive of Ohio State to beat them there.

We'll definitely know more after the OSU/Michigan game.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 17, 2016, 11:31:30 AM
Wisconsin does look pretty good, but they got a lot of credit for beating down LSU and down MSU teams (which we didn't know were down at the time) and maybe OSU and UM just aren't as good?  Just throwing that out there, but I actually agree that UW is a legit team and I think UM and OSU are both great.  Should be a good one between those two deciding who likely plays in the playoff... unless PSU can knock off OSU this weekend  :lol should be a bloodbath
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on October 22, 2016, 10:57:10 AM
Taking down the Ducks in double overtime... How bout them Bears??!?!

:gobears:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 22, 2016, 09:51:35 PM
Penn State!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal

What a 4th quarter, blocked punt to set up a field goal and blocked field goal returned for a TD for the winning points.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on October 22, 2016, 10:16:11 PM
Damn, I was already counting the weeks for the OSU-UM battle of undefeateds.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on October 23, 2016, 11:41:58 AM
Washington Huskies 7-0.           We. Want. Alabama.

 :yarr :xbones :metal
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on October 24, 2016, 07:02:02 AM
Penn State!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal

What a 4th quarter, blocked punt to set up a field goal and blocked field goal returned for a TD for the winning points.

Great game. I normally wouldn't go for Penn St. but I'm glad they beat Ohio St.  They also provided the blue print for beating them. Pressure the QB.

Nebraska struggled early against an inferior opponent in Purdue.  Our offense has all but disappeared these last few weeks but luckily the defense has stepped up. The offensive line is hurt and that has taken away the run game. I'll take 7-0 but their first real big test comes Saturday at Wisconsin.  I think it will be close and will be a defensive game. First to 24 wins I think.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 24, 2016, 07:03:14 AM
That was a great win for Penn State.

I still think that if Ohio State wins out, they make the playoff.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on October 24, 2016, 07:16:52 AM
That was a great win for Penn State.

I still think that if Ohio State wins out, they make the playoff.

Agreed.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 24, 2016, 08:49:36 AM
I would say it depends, but they still have a great shot if they win out.  The problem is that if PSU wins out, Michigan wins out except OSU, and OSU wins out, it could come down to the final rankings of OSU and UM (and PSU too, but they wouldn't be in the picture) for who plays for the Big 10 Championship.  And who knows what happens then.

Also, for me the top 4 currently are and if all win out then should stay this way:

Alabama
Washington
Michigan
Clemson

I could see a Louisville sneak in if someone loses or OSU as well if they beat Michigan.  Not sure I see Alabama or Washington lose though since they seem to be much better than the rest of their conferences.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on October 24, 2016, 08:58:39 AM
Washington Huskies 7-0.           We. Want. Alabama.

 :yarr :xbones :metal

Calm down my friend... You still have to outscore Cal.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 24, 2016, 10:55:49 AM
BTW, how about that Oklahoma-Texas Tech game?   :metal
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on October 24, 2016, 11:30:37 AM
Washington Huskies 7-0.           We. Want. Alabama.

 :yarr :xbones :metal

It may happen,  but it will come down to defense.  Offense sells tickets, but defense wins games.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on October 24, 2016, 12:03:31 PM
I would say it depends, but they still have a great shot if they win out.  The problem is that if PSU wins out, Michigan wins out except OSU, and OSU wins out, it could come down to the final rankings of OSU and UM (and PSU too, but they wouldn't be in the picture) for who plays for the Big 10 Championship.  And who knows what happens then.

Also, for me the top 4 currently are and if all win out then should stay this way:

Alabama
Washington
Michigan
Clemson

I could see a Louisville sneak in if someone loses or OSU as well if they beat Michigan.  Not sure I see Alabama or Washington lose though since they seem to be much better than the rest of their conferences.

With the quality of the Big 10 I don't see any scenario that a 1-loss Ohio St, Michigan, or even Nebraska get's left out. Assuming of course that 1 loss come from Ohio St., Michigan or Nebraska.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 25, 2016, 12:54:43 AM
BTW, how about that Oklahoma-Texas Tech game?   :metal

I can't stand air raid/no defense football.  I'm so glad to see Oregon fall flat this year, and other air it out 60+ teams like TTU hover at .500.  Reducing a sport to one on one matchups killed the NBA, and it will do the same to college football.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 25, 2016, 07:27:00 AM
Nah, I don't think it will ever be popular enough to spread that far, especially if none of those teams actually win a championship.

I enjoy it BECAUSE it is different.  If it became more commonplace, it wouldn't be as fun.

I enjoy watching Georgia Tech play for the same reason.  The triple option game used to be everywhere, and I hated it.  But hardly anyone does it anymore, so it's fun to watch when I can.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 25, 2016, 07:46:05 AM
BTW, how about that Oklahoma-Texas Tech game?   :metal

I can't stand air raid/no defense football.  I'm so glad to see Oregon fall flat this year, and other air it out 60+ teams like TTU hover at .500.  Reducing a sport to one on one matchups killed the NBA, and it will do the same to college football.

Add me to this.  I don't find games where every possession is a score to be that good overall, they could be fun to watch, but I don't think it's as fun as a 17-14 grinder game where one play can change the game vs. whoever has the ball last wins.

However, Hef still has the point that it is different and does bring a fun aspect to college ball.  Also, these teams never really win overall, just like triple option teams.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 25, 2016, 08:48:13 AM
Also, games like the OU/TT game closely resemble video games played between me and my brother, so it's fun to see it in real life lol
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on October 29, 2016, 06:38:54 AM
We're getting ready, already, to head up to the stadium for tailgating and to hang out at the "Game Day". I have no expectations for our guys today but I'm hoping for an entertaining and close game.

Good luck, TempusVox...but not too good of luck, if you know what I mean!  :lol


(https://www.utefans.net/gallery/var/albums/misc/UteClipArt/Blackout%20Go%20Utes.gif?m=1396140094)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on October 29, 2016, 01:44:28 PM
No way Podaar, not this year.

Big win by Michigan (should have been bigger), Louisville escapes my other alma mater.... but all this pales in comparison to..... (that is not me)

(https://d2s3dt9f4iyeup.cloudfront.net/images/resized_v1/b002b65a-749b-4ef1-b799-a2138fb99482.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 29, 2016, 07:22:40 PM
The one time I can bring myself to root for the Canes...dammit Noter Damn.  And damn Canes who let one guy get a ball from three Canes, the first of which should have had it clean.

The Utes played well.  Just don't get that last call of four vertical routes when they only needed 10 yards.

Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on October 30, 2016, 01:56:00 AM
Sorry Podaar. It weren't pretty. But a win is a win. Utah is much tougher than people give them credit for (17 ranking), and isn't an easy place to play. It was a great test for my Dawgs though and should solidify them even more for a strong chance to run the table.

Bow Down to Washington! We're now 8-0. Let's go Huskies!  :metal
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on October 30, 2016, 06:04:41 AM
No way Podaar, not this year.

I'll bet you were regretting this post until about three minutes left, when the Utes were stupid enough to not punt out-of-bounds with a short field. A gift to the Huskies there.

Just don't get that last call of four vertical routes when they only needed 10 yards.

You don't watch enough of Utah :)  Their red zone and end of game strategies are unfathomable.  :lol  The offense is fairly young, they'll grow. The coaching staff has no excuse, of course.

We're now 8-0. Let's go Huskies!  :metal

I'll be pulling for y'all. I think the Huskies are a great team. Well disciplined, excellent players and well coached. The run blocking schemes are not only beautifully designed but exquisitely executed. Coupled with the talent of you running back core, yikes.

Also, the Washington traveling fans were excellent! Prior to the game, they were casually engaging with Utah fans with an easy familiarity that we don't usually get. Opposing team fans are often furtive and nervous looking. They were obviously enthusiastic about there team, but also very gracious in victory...maybe a little relieved, though.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on October 30, 2016, 08:55:11 AM
Anyone familiar with Washington and Michigan, which one would matchup best with Bama?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 30, 2016, 11:13:02 AM
Anyone familiar with Washington and Michigan, which one would matchup best with Bama?

Not sure, but I think both would be great match ups.

Loved seeing PSU after being tied at 17 at halftime just blow away Purdue in the second have to a 60+ point game.  First in awhile. This team has improved as the seasons gone on which is a great sign for them going forward.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on October 30, 2016, 05:14:42 PM
Anyone familiar with Washington and Michigan, which one would matchup best with Bama?

My Huskies
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on October 30, 2016, 06:01:54 PM
Anyone familiar with Washington and Michigan, which one would matchup best with Bama?

My Huskies


Just one more big test next Saturday.....
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on October 30, 2016, 08:43:40 PM
Anyone familiar with Washington and Michigan, which one would matchup best with Bama?

My Huskies


Just one more big test next Saturday.....

It's not my intent to sound boastful, but seriously? I see SC and definitely Wazzu as being big "tests", but have you seen us play this year? Not that they'll not be a tough road opponent, but really? Okay..perhaps you're right. We'll see.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on October 30, 2016, 10:29:55 PM
Just keep scoring.....
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on October 31, 2016, 06:41:21 AM
It's not my intent to sound boastful, but seriously? I see SC and definitely Wazzu as being big "tests", but have you seen us play this year? Not that they'll not be a tough road opponent, but really? Okay..perhaps you're right. We'll see.  :biggrin:

 :lol No proper Husky fan looks past the Apple Bowl. The Cougars could be 0-8 and still find it in themselves to win that game. But as they say, worry about them one at a time.

USC and Utah proved that you can slow down Cal's scoring, Utah just forgot to score themselves. :) I don't know if Washington has defensive backs to stop Cal's passing attack. We'll just have to see.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on October 31, 2016, 08:15:49 AM
:lol No proper Husky fan looks past the Apple Bowl. The Cougars could be 0-8 and still find it in themselves to win that game. But as they say, worry about them one at a time.

Another reason why college football is so great, those rival games!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on October 31, 2016, 08:53:22 AM
Anyone familiar with Washington and Michigan, which one would matchup best with Bama?

I think Bama would beat Michigan by 10+.  If Wisconsin had any kind of offense they would have beaten Michigan at the Big House a few weeks back.

Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 02, 2016, 09:58:18 AM
Little shake up with the playoff rankings.  Texas AM over Washington is not cool IMO.  Sure they played a tougher schedule, but Washington passes the eye test and I truly believe undefeated is better than one loss.  However, it doesn't mean much.  If Washington wins out they are in.  Surprised to see PSU all the way up to 12.  The committee also used the strength of schedule here to rate them much higher. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: kaos2900 on November 02, 2016, 11:37:21 AM
Little shake up with the playoff rankings.  Texas AM over Washington is not cool IMO.  Sure they played a tougher schedule, but Washington passes the eye test and I truly believe undefeated is better than one loss.  However, it doesn't mean much.  If Washington wins out they are in.  Surprised to see PSU all the way up to 12.  The committee also used the strength of schedule here to rate them much higher.

As much as I try to root for other Big 10 teams, there is no reason Penn St. should be ranked 12 simply because 1 of their 2 losses came from Pitt. And I agree on A&M and pretty every other SEC ranking except Alabama being overrated.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 02, 2016, 12:27:58 PM
Little shake up with the playoff rankings.  Texas AM over Washington is not cool IMO.  Sure they played a tougher schedule, but Washington passes the eye test and I truly believe undefeated is better than one loss.  However, it doesn't mean much.  If Washington wins out they are in.  Surprised to see PSU all the way up to 12.  The committee also used the strength of schedule here to rate them much higher.

As much as I try to root for other Big 10 teams, there is no reason Penn St. should be ranked 12 simply because 1 of their 2 losses came from Pitt. And I agree on A&M and pretty every other SEC ranking except Alabama being overrated.

yea, I think the AP poll at 20 is about right for them.  That Pitt loss was a last second missed catch for the win on the road with half the defense injured.  I'm wondering if the committee looks that deeply into it.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 02, 2016, 01:55:24 PM
I don't agree with A&M being quite that high either.  Their claim to fame this season is a loss.  I don't buy strength of schedule for them, either, because frankly the SEC hasn't been it's normal beastly self this season, IMO.

Of course, it will settle itself out by the end of the season.  If Washington wins out (which I expect), they will wind up in the Top 4.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 02, 2016, 02:02:28 PM
I don't agree with A&M being quite that high either.  Their claim to fame this season is a loss.  I don't buy strength of schedule for them, either, because frankly the SEC hasn't been it's normal beastly self this season, IMO.

Of course, it will settle itself out by the end of the season.  If Washington wins out (which I expect), they will wind up in the Top 4.

Yea, these rankings are fairly meaningless as of now.  OSU was #16 in the first ever CFP rankings and won the whole thing.  Washington will be in if they win out.  I also don't buy the SEC being the beast of a conference.. don't even get me started on comparing the SEC to the Big10 like last year  :lol
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 02, 2016, 02:05:28 PM
I definitely think that the Big Ten has been the superior conference this season.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 02, 2016, 02:09:39 PM
I definitely think that the Big Ten has been the superior conference this season.

I think the Big10 is the best this season.  I am heavily biased though.  Bowl season, as usual, will tell the tale, but I think this year has been the best shot of the Big10 being better than the SEC in awhile.  Last year I argued they were just behind the SEC.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on November 02, 2016, 03:31:02 PM
the Big Ten is to start playing games on Friday nights beginning next season.

so much for putting the students first.

Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 02, 2016, 05:07:30 PM
the Big Ten is to start playing games on Friday nights beginning next season.

so much for putting the students first.

Read this as well.  Hate it.  Penn State had an awesome response to the Big10, essentially saying they refuse to host a Friday night game to preserve Friday Night high school football in the state, but have agreed to do up to one away Friday night game a season.

Michigan's response was even better, essentaily "FU we will not be playing on Fridays"

The end result I believe is that the lower tier schools will be playing these games for exposure.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 03, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
Yeah, I hate Friday night games.

I also hate Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday games, other than bowl games.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: pogoowner on November 03, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
Yeah, I hate Friday night games.

I also hate Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday games, other than bowl games.
Completely agreed.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 03, 2016, 02:41:26 PM
the Big Ten is to start playing games on Friday nights beginning next season.

so much for putting the students first.

Read this as well.  Hate it.  Penn State had an awesome response to the Big10, essentially saying they refuse to host a Friday night game to preserve Friday Night high school football in the state, but have agreed to do up to one away Friday night game a season.

Michigan's response was even better, essentaily "FU we will not be playing on Fridays"

The end result I believe is that the lower tier schools will be playing these games for exposure.

How else will Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, and Rutgers get exposure?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 03, 2016, 02:49:59 PM
the Big Ten is to start playing games on Friday nights beginning next season.

so much for putting the students first.

Read this as well.  Hate it.  Penn State had an awesome response to the Big10, essentially saying they refuse to host a Friday night game to preserve Friday Night high school football in the state, but have agreed to do up to one away Friday night game a season.

Michigan's response was even better, essentaily "FU we will not be playing on Fridays"

The end result I believe is that the lower tier schools will be playing these games for exposure.

How else will Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, and Rutgers get exposure?

Yup, and I bet those school would be happy to host a Friday night game on ESPN.  Which from my understanding will be hosting these games or FS1.  They won't be on the Big Ten Network.  Could be good for those school, but I still don't like it. 

Wisconsin said they will only agree to play on the Friday before Labor Day Weekend.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on November 05, 2016, 01:56:44 AM
Not happy my Huskies got dumped like that. A&M lost by 30 points. We beat a 6th ranked Stanford and destroyed Oregon and beat a very underrated Utah. Although, I'm not totally surprised. It's a total political snub. For nearly a decade while at Boise State, Chris Peterson made it very clear every year his displeasure at how his team's were routinely overlooked by the NCAA bowl committee. So this is their way of paying him back for criticizing them.

If we win out...then fuck the bowl committee. I've long hated the rankings. My senior season we had one loss to a tough USC team; beat a 3rd ranked Michigan team early in the season; crushed Cal and Northwestern; easily handled Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl; and while the majority of prognosticators had us as National Champions we came in 2nd to BYU. A BYU team whose toughest opponents that year were a very beat up Michigan team the last game of the season, and the Air Force Academy.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on November 05, 2016, 01:27:43 PM
Miss St agrees with you, TV  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 05, 2016, 03:44:44 PM
Yea, it was nice to see Miss St win that.  I thought it was horrible to have AM over Washington in the meaningless poll.  Hopefully the other overly ranked team doesn't loss too.  I just found out that I can stream the Big Ten Network to my laptop while out here in Germany so I am going to try hard to stay up and watch the game tonight but after 34 hours with just a couple hours of airplane sleep, I feel this will be a struggle.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 05, 2016, 06:57:42 PM
Watching Penn State now only makes me appreciate how decimated they were with injuries early in the year.  Should have beat Pitt, and Michigan would have been closer.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 05, 2016, 07:02:39 PM
Watching Penn State now only makes me appreciate how decimated they were with injuries early in the year.  Should have beat Pitt, and Michigan would have been closer.

Yea playing that Pitt game short 3 line backers really hurt them stopping the run and they could have and should have won that game by the end... the positive is that the playing time lead to a lot of experience gained for the young players which is helping them now.

I'm not sure they could have really competed with Michigan though.  No one has yet.  Maybe it would have been a 35 to 17 type of game instead at best. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on November 05, 2016, 09:30:30 PM
Still a close game at this point, but I got a bad feeling Cal is gonna get fucking rolled on tonight. Here's to hoping we keep scoring!!!


Edit- Each time I check the score, UW has scored again. Fuck.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on November 05, 2016, 10:26:57 PM
Certainly a low scoring affair...
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 06, 2016, 12:55:12 AM
"Come on Cal, get in front of the damn ball!  Don't give me none of this O'LAY bullshit!"
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on November 06, 2016, 05:50:23 AM
I would like to see washington's offense vs alabama's defense.
Should be an interesting few weeks of college football.

Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on November 06, 2016, 05:56:18 AM
Yeah, but everybody puts up numbers like that against Cal. Shit, DTF could score against us.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: KevShmev on November 06, 2016, 06:15:58 AM
I saw the second half of the Alabama/LUS game, which Alabama predictably won in the 4th quarter, but I was reminded of what has got to be the dumbest rule in sports.  After a play where LSU was driving, there was a scuffle where Alabama got three unsportsmanlike penalties and LSU got one, and they were offsetting.  What??  45 yards worth of penalties offsets with 15 yards?  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol  Heck, the next time you see flags on both your and the other team, why not just go drill an opponent from behind because your flag will just get lumped in and offset anyway.  That is beyond stupid and makes zero sense.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 AM
I saw the second half of the Alabama/LUS game, which Alabama predictably won in the 4th quarter, but I was reminded of what has got to be the dumbest rule in sports.  After a play where LSU was driving, there was a scuffle where Alabama got three unsportsmanlike penalties and LSU got one, and they were offsetting.  What??  45 yards worth of penalties offsets with 15 yards?  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol  Heck, the next time you see flags on both your and the other team, why not just go drill an opponent from behind because your flag will just get lumped in and offset anyway.  That is beyond stupid and makes zero sense.

I understand your point but it's more complicated than that. The officials call the fouls they see, so while there may be multiple fouls on one play, they then determine which is the most egregious, which one occurred first, was it a change of possession play,etc . For example, if one team incurred a foul that was a minor foul and the other team incurred a major foul, then the major foul would take precedence, unless the minor foul occurred first where it stopped play (false start for example). In cases where they offset, and one team continues to cause fouls after the play has been whistled then it's an entirely new penalty situation and the penalty will be assessed after the other penalties have been assessed. In cases like you described where you could take a cheap shot after the play has been whistled it would be a brand new penalty, or could result in a player being ejected. But multiple penalties can happen on each play on one side of the ball, and only one on the other side and if they all result in the same assessed penalty, then they offset. It all depends on what was most serious, the order they happened, and if they happened before or after the play had been whistled dead.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on November 06, 2016, 06:45:20 AM
And sorry Lonestar, your Golden Bears got rolled like the Golden Girls.  :)

Bow Down to Washington!   :metal


The BCS committee can suck a fat dick. Texas Tech who???? Let's see what other team with a loss they can leap frog us with now. All because Peterson used to bitch because he got no respect when he was at Boise. That's okay. Can't overlook us if we win out.

We. Want. Alabama.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: KevShmev on November 06, 2016, 06:46:27 AM
That's actually what happened, though.  Flags had already been thrown on both teams, and then an Alabama player ran into the mayhem and just drilled an LSU player out of nowhere, resulting in another flag.  How that wasn't deemed different from the offsetting ones and assessed 15 yards just didn't make sense.

It's like in hockey.  If three guys get minor penalties, two from one team and one from the other, they aren't offsetting.  The team with the extra penalty ends up short-handed for two minutes, which makes perfect sense.  Unlike what we see in football.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on November 06, 2016, 06:49:08 AM
That's actually what happened, though.  Flags had already been thrown on both teams, and then an Alabama player ran into the mayhem and just drilled an LSU player out of nowhere, resulting in another flag.  How that wasn't deemed different from the offsetting ones and assessed 15 yards just didn't make sense.

Wow! I didn't see the game. But it should have resulted in another penalty being assessed. That my friend was because it was Bama.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 06, 2016, 07:34:45 AM
The BCS committee can suck a fat dick. Texas Tech who???? Let's see what other team with a loss they can leap frog us with now. All because Peterson used to bitch because he got no respect when he was at Boise. That's okay. Can't overlook us if we win out.

You do realize the BCS and the current playoff committee are not the same?

The reason Washington was ranked 5th was because the Pac12 is down this year and they are suffering from SOS due to that.  While I don't agree with the ranking of 5th in last weeks poll, I don't believe bias against the coach had anything to do with it.  They will be 4th now and if they win out, they will be in the playoff (which would have been the case even if AM didn't lose).
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 06, 2016, 08:41:13 AM
He's a little out of touch.

There's no more BCS
It was Texas A&M, not Texas Tech

but I think he's right on one thing. A team will leapfrog Washington, and that team is Ohio State.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 06, 2016, 08:55:32 AM
The BCS committee can suck a fat dick. Texas Tech who???? Let's see what other team with a loss they can leap frog us with now. All because Peterson used to bitch because he got no respect when he was at Boise. That's okay. Can't overlook us if we win out.

You do realize the BCS and the current playoff committee are not the same?

The reason Washington was ranked 5th was because the Pac12 is down this year and they are suffering from SOS due to that.  While I don't agree with the ranking of 5th in last weeks poll, I don't believe bias against the coach had anything to do with it.  They will be 4th now and if they win out, they will be in the playoff (which would have been the case even if AM didn't lose).

Washington may still be #5...they beat up Cal, but #6 tOSU treated #10 Nebraska like a speedbump.  Washington still has a clear shot to the top four, as tOSU and UM play eventually, but for now I expect they'll still be #5.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 06, 2016, 10:46:12 AM
I could see OSU doing a temp leapfrog although I feel that is unwarranted like AM.  But there is no way in my mind that UW misses the playoffs if they go undefeated. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on November 06, 2016, 11:33:18 AM
He's a little out of touch.

There's no more BCS
It was Texas A&M, not Texas Tech

Holy Hell!!
 :lol :rollin
A little buzzed still from partying all night to be precise.

And, no...Ohio State will not leapfrog anyone.

(Note to self...no more half asleep- half in the bag posts. Especially at my age.)
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on November 06, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
I just looked up the members of the committee. Nothing like having an 0-12 final season at a major football program as part of your credentials, Tyrone.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: 425 on November 06, 2016, 07:14:51 PM
Not happy my Huskies got dumped like that. A&M lost by 30 points. We beat a 6th ranked Stanford and destroyed Oregon and beat a very underrated Utah. Although, I'm not totally surprised. It's a total political snub. For nearly a decade while at Boise State, Chris Peterson made it very clear every year his displeasure at how his team's were routinely overlooked by the NCAA bowl committee. So this is their way of paying him back for criticizing them.

While this is obviously a moot point now that A&M lost, couple of caveats to make to this:
1) Stanford was 6th ranked very early in the season, when rankings basically don't matter. Stanford has since been revealed to not be particularly good, and is now properly unranked.
2) Oregon is pretty bad this year.
3) The current College Football Playoff committee has absolutely zip to do with the old BCS rankings and bowl selection. The idea that this is some type of revenge ploy against Chris Peterson makes absolutely no sense since this is a totally different group of people.

I myself had Texas A&M ahead of Washington at #4 two weeks ago, before Washington played Utah.

I do a fresh set of rankings every week, paying no regard to the previous week and not having a system of "move up" or "move down." Like the CFP committee, I look at resume and total body of work. Two weeks ago (Oct. 23), Washington did not have a very impressive total body of work. Their best win was over a pretty mediocre Stanford team. I ranked them at #9, behind then-undefeated Boise State and Baylor, both of which had better wins at the time (WSU and OSU, respectively), and then-one-loss Texas A&M, Louisville and Ohio State, which all had losses to quality teams and markedly better wins than Washington. In the case of Texas A&M, at that time they had beaten Tennessee, which was #12 for me that week, and Auburn (#11) and Arkansas (unranked, but closer to being ranked than Stanford). That's a better total body of work than what Washington's was at that time.

When Washington beat Utah, suddenly they had a top 25 win and that was enough, combined with the premium of being unbeaten, to make them #4 for me. It amused me when, that same week, the committee made the move that I had just unmade. But I understood it. I really respect this committee for looking at total body of work and not letting teams skate by on garbage schedules just for being undefeated (like when they correctly denied 2014 FSU the top two spots despite their being the only unbeaten). Now, I think Washington will move into the fourth slot. OSU, unlike TAMU, did not lose to a top four team. And Louisville does not have a signature win. If they committee works similarly to how I do, which I think they do, Washington is a very likely choice for the #4 ranking.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 07, 2016, 03:54:18 AM
When Washington beat Utah, suddenly they had a top 25 win and that was enough, combined with the premium of being unbeaten, to make them #4 for me. It amused me when, that same week, the committee made the move that I had just unmade. But I understood it. I really respect this committee for looking at total body of work and not letting teams skate by on garbage schedules just for being undefeated (like when they correctly denied 2014 FSU the top two spots despite their being the only unbeaten). Now, I think Washington will move into the fourth slot. OSU, unlike TAMU, did not lose to a top four team. And Louisville does not have a signature win. If they committee works similarly to how I do, which I think they do, Washington is a very likely choice for the #4 ranking.

Good analysis.  I also like how the committee puts emphasis on SOS.  It'll make the league as a whole that much better as teams learn this and schedule better (Baylor seems like the will never learn this).  I only wish the committee put a little more into the "eye test".  Washington while having a weaker schedule due to a down pac12 has looked really good in all of their games hence why i thought they should still have been #4 last week.  I'm curious to see how far AM falls this week since losing to Miss St is a pretty bad loss.

As for my team, PSU, I think they could hit around #10 in the rankings, but the last three games of the season are against some pretty bad teams.  Well Indiana is 5-4 so they aren't terrible, but Rutgers and Mich St are 2-7 each.  I almost wonder if PSU could move down in the rankings even with wins as the SOS takes a big hit.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 07, 2016, 05:47:19 AM
(Baylor seems like the will never learn this). 

Based on the past few days, that is actually pretty far down the list in things about which Baylor refuses to learn their lesson...
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 07, 2016, 08:34:32 AM
If Washington wins out, they will be in the Top Four at the end and make the playoff.  No sweat.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on November 07, 2016, 10:32:53 AM
And if they aren't, can we finally agree that east coast bias is a real thing?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 07, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
And if they aren't, can we finally agree that east coast bias is a real thing?

East Coast bias?  I'm not sure that's a thing in college football otherwise PSU should have won the NC in 94.  If there is a bias it's a southern bias in college ball.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on November 07, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
South East bias? Cause it sure as hell doesn't favor the west coast. Maybe a SEC/Big 10 bias?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 07, 2016, 11:22:32 AM
SEC & "prestige" school bias:
https://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2014/10/conference-bias-in-college-football/
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 07, 2016, 01:54:20 PM
And if they aren't, can we finally agree that east coast bias is a real thing?
What do you mean "finally"?  That's been a thing for years.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 07, 2016, 09:53:39 PM
What the SEC lacks, with the exceptions of A&M, Missouri, Vanderbilt, UF, and UGa, is academics on par with most other Power five schools, and a lot of the rest of FBS.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Podaar on November 11, 2016, 11:05:37 AM
I don't know if anyone watched the Utah v. Arizona State game last night but I think it illustrated how good Washington's O-line is. Utah is no Alabama on defense but they did record 11 or better sacks last night and forced several turnovers. I don't know if the Utes had any sacks against the Huskies and I can only remember one interception (a dandy). Coupled with all the running yards Washington had against Utah, I'd say their offensive line is ready for what's ahead.

Hopefully, they will run the table and we'll be able to find out.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 12, 2016, 07:02:16 AM
Yay for another college football Saturday. Penn state with their toughest game left on the schedule, at 5-4 Indiana. Should be a win, but people talk about underperformed at noon on the road, we shall see.

Washington has a shot to impress the committee today, also would love to see Minnesota beat Nebraska (for psu so sorry Kaos), also would like to see Iowa win which won't happen, and Texas over West Virginia.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 12, 2016, 05:41:57 PM
PSU's loss to Pitt doesn't look so bad now...
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on November 12, 2016, 05:42:51 PM
48 yard fg by Pitt to beat Clemson.  I did not watch the game but supposedly a couple of bad calls in Pitts favor.  I love it when a field goal kicker knocks it thru to end the game.

Watching Washington now. The stadium is rocking!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on November 12, 2016, 05:57:08 PM
I love it when a field goal kicker

Missed one earlier, and a PAT, so got redemption.

Watching Washington now. The stadium is rocking!

I know TempusVox is rocking it too, wherever he is. Big chance for UW to make a statement here. And they were even Corso's headgear pick, for the first time ever!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on November 12, 2016, 06:04:26 PM
Yes...rocking for sure!  Trying not to rip my drain tube out after surgery on Wednesday.  Let's go Dawgs!!!!! Bow Down!!! And that stadium used to rock every Saturday in the 80s. No place like it..
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 12, 2016, 06:06:17 PM
PSU's loss to Pitt doesn't look so bad now...

The state of PA is 2-0 against #2 ranked teams  :biggrin:  That was a crazy game.  So glad PSU was able to squeek out a win after looking poor all game.

ACC not doing so well today with Vtech's loss and currently Louisville is down 9-0.  With Auburn losing too, it puts the Big 10 in a good position to get two teams into the playoff.  Part of me wants Washington to lose now to open the hole for the Big 10, but I also want Washington to win out because they are a good story.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 12, 2016, 09:33:40 PM
#2,3,4,8 & 9 ALL lose...Jesus.

This next set of playoff rankings should be very interesting.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 12, 2016, 09:39:41 PM
#2,3,4,8 & 9 ALL lose...Jesus.

This next set of playoff rankings should be very interesting.

What a crazy day and holy crap that just put penn state into the playoff scenario as they are now in a 3 way tie for the big ten east. If Ohio state beats Michigan then psu plays likely Wisconsin for the big ten championship.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on November 12, 2016, 10:18:19 PM
College football is awesome.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: PowerSlave on November 13, 2016, 01:26:47 AM
So, if Ohio State wins out they'll likely be ranked in the top 4 at the end of the season. But if they don't play for a conference championship does the NCAA put them into the playoffs?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on November 13, 2016, 02:32:09 AM
So, if Ohio State wins out they'll likely be ranked in the top 4 at the end of the season. But if they don't play for a conference championship does the NCAA put them into the playoffs?

Not necessarily because of the Iowa/Michigan game. If yesterday's 2,3,4 win out they're still likely in the mix. If OSU beats MU you have to give some consideration to Penn State.

Really needed my Huskies to win. But great win for USC. Rest assured if we meet in the PAC-12 championship, Peterson likely will ensure the outcome won't be the same.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2016, 06:33:52 AM
So, if Ohio State wins out they'll likely be ranked in the top 4 at the end of the season. But if they don't play for a conference championship does the NCAA put them into the playoffs?

It'll be interesting to see. Certainly depends on clemaon, Louisville, Washington and oklahoma. If penn state and Wisconsin end up playing for the big 10, I could see the winner going as well as Ohio state sort of like the SEC having Alabama and LSU that one year except this year it would also be Alabama and either the acc or pac12 or big12 champ. Depends on how those teams all play.  The acc took a huge hit last night in terms of conference rankings IMO.  I'm really a big Ohio state fan all of the sudden.

Alsl, going to the Penn state rutgers game on Saturday but I just booked a hotel for the Penn state Michigan state game too. If the miracle happens, I could see myself going to Indy too.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 14, 2016, 12:36:09 PM
Looks like Michigan's QB is out for the remainder of the regular season.  I got to think Ohio State beats them in two weeks in Ohio.  Things are falling into place for the Nittany Lions...
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 14, 2016, 01:03:36 PM
College football is the greatest sport.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 14, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
College football is the greatest sport.

It really is.   :tup :tup

The NFL might have a better game in terms of consistent quality match ups and talent, but the FBS Division 1 College Ball has one of the craziest and most fulfilling seasons of any sport.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: PowerSlave on November 14, 2016, 03:21:12 PM
The college game is very exciting at times, but sometimes the blowouts ruin it for me. And I'm a fan of a team that blows a lot of teams out. I'll probably always prefer the pro game, but I'll never give up watching college.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 14, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
The college game is very exciting at times, but sometimes the blowouts ruin it for me. And I'm a fan of a team that blows a lot of teams out. I'll probably always prefer the pro game, but I'll never give up watching college.

The blowouts and uneven match ups are definitely the worst part about college ball, but what makes up for it is the fact that if you are watching a blow out, you can switch the channel and find a better game.  For me, and I do not have a sports package, there are usually at least 5 different games on at any of the typically time slots (12pm, 3:30pm, 8pm) for me to choose from and at least one of those games is going to be interesting.  On an NFL Sunday my options are quite limited without the NFL ticket package and even then you essentially blow your load on the 1pm slot without much options for the 4pm and no options for the night games.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 17, 2016, 05:10:41 PM
Long but really good article about how the Big 10 has become the better football league over the SC

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-the-big-ten-flipped-scripts-with-sec-as-the-nations-best-conference/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-the-big-ten-flipped-scripts-with-sec-as-the-nations-best-conference/)

It really begins with Meyer leaving Florida and then becoming Ohio State's head coach and the effect of eliminating FCS teams from the OOC schedule and going to 9 Big 10 game seasons this year. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 18, 2016, 07:55:56 AM
Wow Louisville got destroyed.  Didn't expect that.  They are eliminated from the playoffs and might have taken Clemson with them depending on how things play out.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 18, 2016, 09:42:28 PM
If OSU beats Michigan, Penn State wins the B10 East.  If Penn State beats Wisconsin, and Washington slips up again, that should put Penn State in the top 4, which I would have called a miracle before the season, and down right impossible after the Pitt and Michigan losses, even if we were playing 3rd and 4th string LB's who were essentially third string safeties.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: splent on November 18, 2016, 09:45:52 PM
I hope Michigan and Ohio St both lose and Wisconsin wins out. Then Wisconsin will be in the top 4.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 18, 2016, 11:53:25 PM
Michigan and OSU won't both lose.  I don't see either team losing this week, and they play each other next week.  Wisconsin still has to win the big ten title game, and that will be tough whether that is Mich, OSU, or PSU.  However, winning out should get Wisconsin or PSU in.  Missing out on the title game might be the best thing for OSU if they beat Michigan.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 19, 2016, 02:57:03 AM
Missing out on the title game might be the best thing for OSU if they beat Michigan.
I agree.  Louisville losing was great for OSU, and may be the path to the Big 10 getting two teams into the playoff (OSU and whomever wins the conference championship).
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2016, 06:32:57 AM
Missing out on the title game might be the best thing for OSU if they beat Michigan.
I agree.  Louisville losing was great for OSU, and may be the path to the Big 10 getting two teams into the playoff (OSU and whomever wins the conference championship).

Yea this seems likely if the favorites win, I'm guessing Wisconsin would be the favorite over PSU in the big10 championship game. 

Going to the Penn State game at Rutgers tonight. Got the tickets for my father but he had to back out so going with the girl I've been dating who is a Rutgers grad.  This game shouldn't be close.  I'm hoping to be seen on TV after fieldgoals.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on November 19, 2016, 07:34:17 AM
Wisconsin's defense has been absurd this season.  However, if they can't run the ball (see Michigan loss) they have no offense whatsoever.

I'd love to see the Badgers win out and make the playoffs, but I'm not very confident in a rematch with either Michigan or Ohio St.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: PowerSlave on November 19, 2016, 01:37:12 PM
I'm a fan, but Ohio State does not look like a championship team. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I don't see them going beyond one game in the playoff if they make it.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Snow Dog on November 19, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
Living in Oregon, Ducks fans were saying Utah should destroy Oregon. I was skeptical since Utah has been playing down to their opponents all season. I fuckin' hate when I'm right... >:/
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 19, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Virginia Tech beating Noter Damn and ensuring that the fucking idiots won't go to a bowl game might be the only redeeming event of an otherwise shitacular 2016.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 19, 2016, 05:58:25 PM
Oh Texas...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: carl320 on November 19, 2016, 08:41:40 PM
Virginia Tech beating Noter Damn and ensuring that the fucking idiots won't go to a bowl game might be the only redeeming event of an otherwise shitacular 2016.

I think, even before today, a Bowl game was a forgone conclusion.

Now I just wait for the calls of Coach Kelly's firing... he has had one bad season, and ND can't have that...  :lol
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 23, 2016, 09:32:25 AM
Virginia Tech beating Noter Damn and ensuring that the fucking idiots won't go to a bowl game might be the only redeeming event of an otherwise shitacular 2016.

I think, even before today, a Bowl game was a forgone conclusion.

Now I just wait for the calls of Coach Kelly's firing... he has had one bad season, and ND can't have that...  :lol

It appears he also played with ineligible players and takes no responsibility in that, so the wins from their best season in a long time no longer count (which is an NCAA penalty that I absolutely hate).  I think his players just aren't buying his BS anymore and the school should cut him loose. 

Anyway, had a fun time at the Rutgers/PSU game minus the crazy rain at the end that caused everyone to leave the beatdown early.  It was nice that I was not heckled once, I excepted a bit of it, I even entered in through the student section which I didn't do on purpose, but was a lot of fun to feel like a college kid if only for 5 minutes.

(https://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm267/cramx3/20161119_202647.jpg)

My first time at High Point Solution Stadium, I thought it was pretty nice and a solid college football stadium.

And I have confirmed my hotel booking and I can buy tickets so I will be at the Penn State/Michigan St game this weekend.  Depending on how the OSU/Michigan game goes, this game could be really nuts and meaningful, or just a fun game to hopefully end with 10 wins which no one expected.  It'll be fun to go back to PSU, nothing beats a game day experience in Happy Valley.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 23, 2016, 01:05:22 PM
As much as I loathe and detest noter damn, I feel like the NCAA didn't handle it fairly.  ND self reported, investigated, and got rid of and/or punished everyone directly involved.  All the NCAA did was just discourage other schools for not nipping things early and self reporting.

Now I'm going to pistol whip myself until I get a concussion for defending ND.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 23, 2016, 01:52:38 PM
I agree.  The forfeiting of all those wins is way too big a penalty.  The NCAA is full of shit.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 23, 2016, 02:08:30 PM
I agree.  The forfeiting of all those wins is way too big a penalty.  The NCAA is full of shit.

I agree too, just didn't like how Kelly refuses to take any blame for what happened under his watch.  Same with the kid who died some years ago, let's not forget that one (https://deadspin.com/5675694/prelude-to-a-tragedy-how-a-notre-dame-student-died-and-why-he-shouldnt-have (https://deadspin.com/5675694/prelude-to-a-tragedy-how-a-notre-dame-student-died-and-why-he-shouldnt-have)).  I think vacating wins is dumb and ND while guilty, is far from being a real NCAA problem in this area.  I just personally really dislike Kelly as a person.  Also, I am rooting for ND to beat USC this weekend.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 23, 2016, 03:18:26 PM
I agree that Kelly would be in the running for biggest ass at ND, and SOMEBODY should have charges for his death, the OSHA fine was a joke.  At least his family is making something good come from his manslauter.

I hope Kelly stays and they regress even more next year, and the ACC holds their feet to the fire and says "join in football or all your other sports can GTFO." 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 26, 2016, 04:21:43 PM

And I have confirmed my hotel booking and I can buy tickets so I will be at the Penn State/Michigan St game this weekend.  Depending on how the OSU/Michigan game goes, this game could be really nuts and meaningful, or just a fun game to hopefully end with 10 wins which no one expected.  It'll be fun to go back to PSU, nothing beats a game day experience in Happy Valley.

Your decision making here was sound.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 26, 2016, 11:06:52 PM
If someone would have told me that Penn State would would be playing for a Big Ten title this year any time between Jan. 2012 and Nov. 1 2016, I would have laughed and said they were full of shit.  O'Brien and Franklin are miracle workers.  Hopefully Franklin can develop the talent he recruits and can motivate them when he can no longer play "The NCAA screwed us" chip.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: millahh on November 27, 2016, 07:05:48 AM
If someone would have told me that Penn State would would be playing for a Big Ten title this year any time between Jan. 2012 and Nov. 1 2016, I would have laughed and said they were full of shit.  O'Brien and Franklin are miracle workers.  Hopefully Franklin can develop the talent he recruits and can motivate them when he can no longer play "The NCAA screwed us" chip.

"We're now legit contenders in the same division as UM and tOSU" is a pretty good motivator, I would imagine.  It's a switch from "Let's go out there and prove 'em all wrong" to being the underdog with a fighter's chance (which they will still be), but this season, regardless of outcome next week, will go a long way towards being able to motivate future teams.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: KevShmev on November 27, 2016, 08:22:12 AM
As great a coach as Jim Harbaugh is, part of being a great coach is knowing how to talk to and manipulate the officials, and he still hasn't figured that out yet.  Screaming and yelling at them all game is never going to win them over, so when close calls go against his team, you can't help but wonder if his ranting hasn't gotten in the head of the officials, making them less likely to give his team the benefit of the doubt in such cases.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 27, 2016, 04:11:15 PM
As great a coach as Jim Harbaugh is, part of being a great coach is knowing how to talk to and manipulate the officials, and he still hasn't figured that out yet.  Screaming and yelling at them all game is never going to win them over, so when close calls go against his team, you can't help but wonder if his ranting hasn't gotten in the head of the officials, making them less likely to give his team the benefit of the doubt in such cases.

But it works on his players so well!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 27, 2016, 05:13:06 PM
(https://scontent.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15171274_10112211290408024_6380482367445788972_n.jpg?oh=39145720550af995227d4def8e0d2ca6&oe=58B84FFF)

Had a blast at the PSU game yesterday.  It was weird cause everyone in the stands was following The Game on their phones and then the eruption in the stands as OSU won.  Penn State did what they needed to do, beat down a bad MSU team.  Onto Wisconsin, if Penn State wins, it's going to make things very difficult for the playoff selection committee.  Even though Wisconsin is slightly ahead of PSU, I feel like it would have a harder time arguing to get in since they lost to OSU.  However, Washington or Clemson would have arguably better resumes that leaving one of them out would also be crazy.  Personally I think in that scenario OSU should be out.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 28, 2016, 07:58:27 AM
The two things I can say with safety are that Alabama is definitely in and Michigan is definitely out.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 28, 2016, 08:02:16 AM
The two things I can say with safety are that Alabama is definitely in and Michigan is definitely out.

Agreed.  A Wisconsin friend told me last night they think Michigan got screwed as a strong two loss team already out, but they lost 2 of their last 3.  Can't lose at the end of the year like that.  Where as teams like Oklahoma/PSU lost their games early in the year and by maintaining long winning streaks (if they win this weekend) that keeps them in the convo as "hot teams". 

It does suck for Michigan, great season considering the two losses were on the road and by a combined 5 points or something.  I love seeing Harbaugh go nuts, because it just makes him look insane and hopefully weens kids away from playing for him (which doesnt seem to be the case yet).
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 28, 2016, 09:13:41 AM
Well, screw Michigan, so yeah.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: mike099 on November 28, 2016, 11:57:52 AM
I would like to see Washington get in the playoff.  They should be in if they beat Colorado in the conference championship game.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 28, 2016, 12:05:40 PM
I would like to see Washington get in the playoff.  They should be in if they beat Colorado in the conference championship game.
I would also like to see that.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 28, 2016, 12:36:51 PM
I would like to see Washington get in the playoff.  They should be in if they beat Colorado in the conference championship game.
I would also like to see that.

Part of me would as well.  I think if Washington wins, they "deserve" to be in.  As a PSU fan, it's hard for me to say I "want" to see that though. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 28, 2016, 12:43:42 PM
I think that the final 4 will be Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State & Washington, in that order.  We shall see.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: pogoowner on November 28, 2016, 12:53:20 PM
I love seeing Harbaugh go nuts, because it just makes him look insane and hopefully weens kids away from playing for him (which doesnt seem to be the case yet).
That's how Harbaugh has acted his entire career, and he's always been a great recruiter. I'm a Michigan State fan, so I would never go to bat for any Michigan guy, but I'm also a Niners fan who has a great appreciation for what he did there. Harbaugh is 100% football all day, every day, to the point where he's kind of a strange, awkward guy in any other social circumstance. But that's part of his charm and part of what makes him so good at his job.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 28, 2016, 01:01:07 PM
I love seeing Harbaugh go nuts, because it just makes him look insane and hopefully weens kids away from playing for him (which doesnt seem to be the case yet).
That's how Harbaugh has acted his entire career, and he's always been a great recruiter. I'm a Michigan State fan, so I would never go to bat for any Michigan guy, but I'm also a Niners fan who has a great appreciation for what he did there. Harbaugh is 100% football all day, every day, to the point where he's kind of a strange, awkward guy in any other social circumstance. But that's part of his charm and part of what makes him so good at his job.

Charm?  :lol I know what you mean, but at some point its "too much".  He wore out his welcome (internally at least) with the 49ers where he was very succesful and that says a lot about someone's personality.  He's doing great at Michigan so far, but I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years, his antics get him on people's bad side and obviously kids as of now still want to play for him.

I think that the final 4 will be Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State & Washington, in that order.  We shall see.

Seems fine.  I'm not sure how Clemson gets in front of Ohio State and Washington does not though.  Washington has a much tougher opponent this weekend.  If all the favorites win this weekend (Wisconsin is a slight favorite over PSU) then I'd have:

Alabama
Ohio State
Clemson
Washington

if PSU wins, Id not only want, but I think it should be:

Alabama
Clemson
Washington
Penn State

but likely doesn't change from my first list.  I just think PSU would have a better claim for the playoffs than OSU and that's a bit of homerism and a bit of adding value to head to head and conference championships.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: PowerSlave on November 28, 2016, 01:27:11 PM
if PSU wins, Id not only want, but I think it should be:

Alabama
Clemson
Washington
Penn State

but likely doesn't change from my first list.  I just think PSU would have a better claim for the playoffs than OSU and that's a bit of homerism and a bit of adding value to head to head and conference championships.

Overall strength of schedule is going to be nail in PSU's coffin against OSU. I'm not saying that you're completely wrong with how you'd like to see it work out, but I doubt that the committee is going to see it your way.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: pogoowner on November 28, 2016, 01:32:04 PM
Charm?  :lol I know what you mean, but at some point its "too much".  He wore out his welcome (internally at least) with the 49ers where he was very succesful and that says a lot about someone's personality.  He's doing great at Michigan so far, but I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years, his antics get him on people's bad side and obviously kids as of now still want to play for him.
Yes, he did, and I won't argue if people want to say he has a shelf-life at any one team, because there's some evidence for it. The San Francisco situation can partially be put on Harbaugh, but it's a two way street, and their GM, Trent Baalke, is probably the most introverted, anti-social GM in the NFL. It doesn't surprise me that they couldn't work well together. Once the Yorks got the stadium plan in place, thanks to Harbaugh's success, they convinced themselves they could do better without Harbaugh and spent an entire season undermining him through the media (they do this with every situation if you follow what the national media that they leak to report) before "mutually" parting ways. Harbaugh isn't blameless, but the 49ers are one of the strangest and most inept franchises in the NFL--they were before Harbaugh, and they have been immediately following his departure--so I find it hard to put it all on him.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 28, 2016, 01:35:04 PM
if PSU wins, Id not only want, but I think it should be:

Alabama
Clemson
Washington
Penn State

but likely doesn't change from my first list.  I just think PSU would have a better claim for the playoffs than OSU and that's a bit of homerism and a bit of adding value to head to head and conference championships.

Overall strength of schedule is going to be nail in PSU's coffin against OSU. I'm not saying that you're completely wrong with how you'd like to see it work out, but I doubt that the committee is going to see it your way.

I dont disagree, although it wont be SOS alone, but one loss against that SOS.  It's just a weird situation where PSU would (in this scenario) hold a head to head and conference championship over OSU yet OSU would get in over them.  The committee's guidelines say to favor head to head and conference championships against comparable teams.  I would say a 11-1 OSU and 11-2 PSU would be pretty comparable, but then again, maybe the committee doesnt think so.  I'm pretty mentally prepared to not have PSU in the final four with OSU there, but there is still a large apart of me (non homer) that thinks it shouldn't be the case.

Also things in PSU's favor... Iowa and Pitt potentially getting into the  CFP poll top 25 this week.  PSU went 1-1 against those two and current are 1-1 against the top 25, that would make them 2-2 against the top 25 with one more game against top 25.  If they win, it really narrows down the difference in SOS.  Also, Temple is just outside the top 25 as well with a game against Navy this weekend for the American conference.  If Temple wins, that'll be another top 25 win (Temple will definitely be a top 25 team if they win at 10-3). 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 28, 2016, 02:14:58 PM
Harbaugh is 100% football all day, every day
I'd say he's about 60% football and 40% asshole.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on November 28, 2016, 03:38:18 PM
On Wisconsin!

How can you leave them out if they win the Big Ten?

Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 28, 2016, 03:50:03 PM
On Wisconsin!

How can you leave them out if they win the Big Ten?

Because they lost to Ohio State.  That's why Wisconsin is going to have a much harder time than PSU to get into the playoffs, although it's more likely both are left out without getting help.  Hopefully this season shows why a 8 team playoffs with conference champions getting automatic bids is the real answer, not the 4 team committee decision playoff (which granted is still better than the BCS).
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on November 28, 2016, 04:38:52 PM
On Wisconsin!

How can you leave them out if they win the Big Ten?

Because they lost to Ohio State.  That's why Wisconsin is going to have a much harder time than PSU to get into the playoffs, although it's more likely both are left out without getting help.  Hopefully this season shows why a 8 team playoffs with conference champions getting automatic bids is the real answer, not the 4 team committee decision playoff (which granted is still better than the BCS).

I can't buy Ohio St. getting in and Wisconsin getting left out if they win the Big Ten title game.  What's the point of having a title game then?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 29, 2016, 07:12:58 AM
Money, and a chance to pad resumes.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on November 29, 2016, 07:19:48 AM
I think that the divisions should be done away with and the Conference Championship game should be the top two teams.

In the Big Ten's case, that would 8-1 Ohio State vs. 8-1 Penn State.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on November 29, 2016, 07:27:24 AM
I think that the divisions should be done away with and the Conference Championship game should be the top two teams.

In the Big Ten's case, that would 8-1 Ohio State vs. 8-1 Penn State.

Well that's one idea.  The SEC and Big10 got the divisions messed up with one division being much stronger than the other.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 29, 2016, 07:30:58 AM
I think that the divisions should be done away with and the Conference Championship game should be the top two teams.

In the Big Ten's case, that would 8-1 Ohio State vs. 8-1 Penn State.
That's how the ACC is going to start doing it in the next year or two.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on December 02, 2016, 12:41:48 PM
Im a huge Colorado fan tonight.  After the CFP poll came out and the way the committee spokesperson answered the questions, it seems to me the winning of the Big10 is not getting in without help so I am really rooting for Washington to lose tonight.  Or Clemson tomorrow, but I think Washington is the more likely team to lose. 

I read a lot of a PSU forum and someone pointed out something interesting about how PSU is being undervalued.  On the 8 game win streak, they have also covered the spread every single time.  Meaning Vegas has been wrong about them too.  They've not only covered, but covered by an average of over 10 points/game.  That's crazy.  They go into tomorrow as 3 point underdogs.  I like thier chances in this one, but I expect it to be a good one.  I just hope that there is some meaning in the game and not just for a trophy.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: KevShmev on December 03, 2016, 06:54:19 AM
Covering the spread that many times doesn't mean Vegas was wrong about them; it means the betting public was.  Remember, Vegas doesn't care about how good or bad a team is or any of that; all they care about is making money, and spreads are always set and then moved to get equal action on both sides.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on December 03, 2016, 08:41:30 AM
Covering the spread that many times doesn't mean Vegas was wrong about them; it means the betting public was.  Remember, Vegas doesn't care about how good or bad a team is or any of that; all they care about is making money, and spreads are always set and then moved to get equal action on both sides.

It means public reception was off then, which it has been.

Regardless, dominating win by Washington.  I think that gets them in for sure now. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: splent on December 03, 2016, 08:49:36 AM
Clemson needs to lose.

I need Wisconsin in the playoffs. If not they'll make the rose bowl at least (as long as they beat penn state which I'm anticipating they will).
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on December 03, 2016, 09:02:22 AM
Clemson needs to lose.

I need Wisconsin in the playoffs. If not they'll make the rose bowl at least (as long as they beat penn state which I'm anticipating they will).

Yea, seems like the winner gets the rose bowl, loser maybe the cotton against the best mid major team.  That alone should be motivation for both teams  :lol
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: KevShmev on December 03, 2016, 09:19:08 AM
Covering the spread that many times doesn't mean Vegas was wrong about them; it means the betting public was.  Remember, Vegas doesn't care about how good or bad a team is or any of that; all they care about is making money, and spreads are always set and then moved to get equal action on both sides.

It means public reception was off then, which it has been.

 

That happens a lot, especially when teams are much better or worse than they were projected to be.  Take the NFL this year:

Dallas is far better than everyone thought they would be; they are 9-3 against the spread.

Arizona is far worse than everyone thought they would be; they are 3-8 against the spread.

Kansas City is about as good as most thought they would be: they are 5-5-1 against the spread.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on December 03, 2016, 09:29:49 AM
Covering the spread that many times doesn't mean Vegas was wrong about them; it means the betting public was.  Remember, Vegas doesn't care about how good or bad a team is or any of that; all they care about is making money, and spreads are always set and then moved to get equal action on both sides.

It means public reception was off then, which it has been.

 

That happens a lot, especially when teams are much better or worse than they were projected to be.  Take the NFL this year:

Dallas is far better than everyone thought they would be; they are 9-3 against the spread.

Arizona is far worse than everyone thought they would be; they are 3-8 against the spread.

Kansas City is about as good as most thought they would be: they are 5-5-1 against the spread.

Exactly, that's my point regardling PSU and why public reception has not been great towards them even though they've gone on a tear.  Even I am surprised by this season, but now, I kind of expect them to perform.  So we shall see, they are 3 point underdogs tonight.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: splent on December 03, 2016, 09:52:29 PM
Just to let you know my daughters portrait of me will be replaced by some gross penn st crap.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: T-ski on December 03, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Would have never thought the Badgers defense would give up a 21 point lead. 

 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: splent on December 03, 2016, 10:01:17 PM
Would have never thought the Badgers defense would give up a 21 point lead. 

 :sadpanda:

Played like the packers.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 03, 2016, 10:02:23 PM
Oh that was SOOOO SWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETT!!!!!!

And the Hokies almost pulled it out too  :(
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: PowerSlave on December 03, 2016, 10:11:04 PM
Oh that was SOOOO SWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETT!!!!!!

And the Hokies almost pulled it out too  :(

Yeah, I was rooting for VA Tech. If they would have beat Clemson the playoff picture would have been a lot clearer. The way it stands now there's going to be some upset teams no matter what the committee decides.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on December 04, 2016, 07:56:11 AM
Can't wait to see what the committee decides. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on December 04, 2016, 10:35:21 AM
Woooooooooooo!!! Bring on Alabama bitches!!!!! Hell Yeah!!! Getting tickets now!
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on December 04, 2016, 10:54:06 AM
What a game last night for PSU.  They were a domintating second half team all year.  I was pretty sure they were done, until the scored before half time.  I knew they would make it a game in the 2nd half.  McSorley what a game and season. 

While it sucks to not make the playoff, I can't fault the final 4 because every team has a legit good reason to be there.  PSU going to the Rose Bowl is not a bad consolation prize and I'm guessing vs. USC which will be tough, but an easier game than Alabama.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on December 04, 2016, 10:19:24 PM
Woooooooooooo!!! Bring on Alabama bitches!!!!! Hell Yeah!!! Getting tickets now!

You guys better fucking win man....
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 05, 2016, 08:49:54 AM
I'll be honest, if I were picking the four teams, they would have been Alabama, Clemson, Washington, and Penn State. 

Having said that, I think we are going to get some great bowl matchups, both in and out of the playoff.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on December 06, 2016, 08:11:48 PM
I am not a big fan of farewell tours, but I like what CBS and the SEC did for Verne Lundquist this year. I hate "Mt Rushmore" lists, but that guy is on the very short list of all-time greatest sportscasters. I could listen to him and Gary Danielson call a junior high chess match.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: dparrott on December 28, 2016, 12:36:57 AM
Hey Boise State: You had a bowl game scheduled tonight against a .500 team.  Would have been nice if you showed up.   ::) :loser:
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: DragonAttack on December 28, 2016, 10:42:39 AM
I am not a big fan of farewell tours, but I like what CBS and the SEC did for Verne Lundquist this year. I hate "Mt Rushmore" lists, but that guy is on the very short list of all-time greatest sportscasters. I could listen to him and Gary Danielson call a junior high chess match.

"YES, SIR!!!"

One of the few left that I would leave the volume ON during games, or tune into for a short spell just to listen to.  They made a great team.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on December 31, 2016, 09:46:14 PM
Soooo, Tempus wanted Bama, and boy did he sure get them.


And where the fuck was Ohio St? Didn't they know they had a game tonight?


I'd like to say that it'll be a good title game, but I really don't see Bama losing.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 31, 2016, 10:28:05 PM
What did you expect, OSU didn't even win their division of the Big 10?

Clemson played Alabama tight last year.  No reason to expect them to not show up this year, should be a fun game to watch.  Plus, if Clemson takes a Liam Neeson in Taken revenge attitude, they might be able to pull it off.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: TempusVox on January 01, 2017, 08:07:44 AM
Soooo, Tempus wanted Bama, and boy did he sure get them.


And where the fuck was Ohio St? Didn't they know they had a game tonight?


I'd like to say that it'll be a good title game, but I really don't see Bama losing.

You sir are extraordinarily confused.
The worst part of being mildly hungover in Atlanta on New Years day, is being mildly hungover in Atlanta on New Year's day  after your team loses. We've had fun...and the Dogs of Montlake have risen from the ashes and we'll be back many more times to come.

On a separate note everybody in the hotel this morning is talking about how Steve Sarkisian ate a booger on live tv. What a ducking idiot, loser. I had to Google it. And he did!!!! Nasty! You gotta fire him. I'm a young player, every time I'm in a meeting with the guy I'm thinking, " That motherfucker picks his nose and eats it!"
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on January 01, 2017, 11:19:59 AM
What a couple of poor playoff games to watch.  I don't necessarily think the committee got it wrong, but Alabama was always clearly the better team and Clemson exposed OSU who had no offense this year and it showed in the game.  It was nice to see Urban out coached.  Clemson and Alabama should be a good game, I think that's the team with the best shot to beat Alabama and I will be rooting for them to do it. 

I am hoping for a PSU win and maybe sneak into #3 in the final AP poll. 
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: lonestar on January 01, 2017, 03:45:22 PM
Soooo, Tempus wanted Bama, and boy did he sure get them.


And where the fuck was Ohio St? Didn't they know they had a game tonight?


I'd like to say that it'll be a good title game, but I really don't see Bama losing.

You sir are extraordinarily confused.
The worst part of being mildly hungover in Atlanta on New Years day, is being mildly hungover in Atlanta on New Year's day  after your team loses. We've had fun...and the Dogs of Montlake have risen from the ashes and we'll be back many more times to come.

On a separate note everybody in the hotel this morning is talking about how Steve Sarkisian ate a booger on live tv. What a ducking idiot, loser. I had to Google it. And he did!!!! Nasty! You gotta fire him. I'm a young player, every time I'm in a meeting with the guy I'm thinking, " That motherfucker picks his nose and eats it!"

Oh I realize that it's gonna be a few years in teh Pac 12 of looking up at UW, but here at Cal we're used to looking up at everyone....

And the booger thing.....ewwwwwww....
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: Cool Chris on January 01, 2017, 05:30:48 PM
Before the bowls/playoffs were set, one of our local sports radio guys said he'd rather UW play in, and have a much better shot at winning, the Rose Bowl, than play, and potentially get killed by, Alabama. I didn't like that mentality at all. I knew the Dawgs were a long shot, and they definitely got outplayed by the more talented team, but would it ever be more desirable to not make the playoffs in favor of a better shot at a bowl win, even if it's the Rose Bowl? Does anyone outside of the Pac12 and Big10 even care about the Rose Bowl?
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on January 01, 2017, 06:47:03 PM
Before the bowls/playoffs were set, one of our local sports radio guys said he'd rather UW play in, and have a much better shot at winning, the Rose Bowl, than play, and potentially get killed by, Alabama. I didn't like that mentality at all. I knew the Dawgs were a long shot, and they definitely got outplayed by the more talented team, but would it ever be more desirable to not make the playoffs in favor of a better shot at a bowl win, even if it's the Rose Bowl? Does anyone outside of the Pac12 and Big10 even care about the Rose Bowl?

Lots of PSU people have claimed the same thing, it was better to play in the Rose Bowl than get slaughtered by Alabama.  I also don't agree with that mentality, but it's hard to complain about playing in the Rose Bowl.  I think fans outside the big10/pac12 do somewhat care.  It's the most prestigious and usually hyped bowl game outside the NC playoffs although the playoffs have made the Rose Bowl much less meaningful.  Being that Washington and Ohio State lost, the winner has a good shot of claiming rights to actually being the best team in their conferences (regardless of the meaningless conference championships).
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 02, 2017, 05:58:02 PM
What a start to the third quarter!  I know you're enjoying this Marc.
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Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on January 02, 2017, 07:27:03 PM
Hell of a Rose Bowl. Really impressed by USC'S QB
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Post by: KevShmev on January 02, 2017, 07:31:26 PM
Heckuva finish, for sure.  USC came up big late.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 02, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
What a start to the third quarter!  I know you're enjoying this Marc.

I was for awhile... damn what a crazy game.  3 interceptions and PSU was lucky with that fumble call, but you can't win a game like that.  Some questionable play calls at the end for PSU too.  Sucks, what a heart breaker, but one hell of a game.  Better than any other bowl this year.
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Post by: lonestar on January 02, 2017, 07:40:25 PM
Well shit. No matter, my base level thoughts on college football still stand. Fuck SC.
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Post by: millahh on January 02, 2017, 08:34:00 PM

On a separate note everybody in the hotel this morning is talking about how Steve Sarkisian ate a booger on live tv. What a ducking idiot, loser. I had to Google it. And he did!!!! Nasty! You gotta fire him. I'm a young player, every time I'm in a meeting with the guy I'm thinking, " That motherfucker picks his nose and eats it!"

Given how Sark lost his job at USC, boogers are not the worst thing he could be ingesting...
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 09, 2017, 11:03:55 PM
What are a game.  More than makes up for the lackluster semi-final games.

If they do it in the future, watch the ESPN channel with the football coaches watching the game.  Way better than traditional broadcast.  It sucks not having the game full screen, but the quality of the commentary, telestration, and replays make up for it.
Title: Re: 2016 NCAA Football!
Post by: cramx3 on January 10, 2017, 06:27:23 AM
I cant believe I fell asleep  :lol I'm glad Clemson won though.   I don't have a dislike of Alabama, it's just that they always win so it's nice to see another school win.
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Post by: Podaar on January 10, 2017, 07:08:07 AM
Fantastic game! It's always fun when Alabama gets outplayed...which is rare these days. It was pretty difficult not to wake Mrs. P during that fourth quarter.
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Post by: Cool Chris on January 10, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
While I don't generally root for teams who have players who grab their opponents' junk on the field, I was rooting for Dabo Sweeney who seems like a genuinely likable guy. And what a game too! Championship games like that, the big winners are fans of college football.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2017, 12:00:51 PM
Fantastic game!
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Post by: lonestar on January 10, 2017, 12:54:13 PM
Hmm, color me surprised, if I was a betting man, I'd be a few dollars poorer today.


In other news, Cal fired their coach two days after the Niners fire Chip Kelly. Coincedence? I think not....
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Post by: kaos2900 on January 10, 2017, 02:01:29 PM
Always love to see Alabama lose. Overall was a disappointing season for Husker fans and I'm always sad when the season ends.
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Post by: cramx3 on January 10, 2017, 02:16:08 PM
This season was a blast as a PSU fan, but it does suck that it is over.  I can't wait for next year, lots of pre-season rankings from columnists and whatnot have PSU in top 5 which is very exciting.  I don't think I've seen PSU have this much pre-season hype since I've been a fan, but it seems warranted as they have a lot of players coming back next year and our QB, McSorley, while having a bad bowl game is the real deal at being a winner.  I think he'll have a chip on his shoulder next year for his performance in the bowl game.