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Title: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (Back From the Dead)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 09:43:47 PM
Paramaís Roulette v1.5

It turns out that running a roulette sounds pretty fun right now, but Iím still sort of playing catch-up from my last roulette and not looking for a ton of new stuff right now. So Iím running a half-roulette instead and by the time I want to run a full roulette again Iíll probably be near or at the top of the queue. Itís the perfect crime.

Final Rankings:
1st: home
2nd: Evermind
3rd: Tomislav95
4th: 425
5th: Scorpion
6th: Bolsters
7th: Sacul
8th: Train of Naught
9th: Tyrias
10th: LordCost
11th: splent
12th: twosuitsluke

Useful links:
Rules and Round Structure (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2194213#msg2194213)
Banned List (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2194215#msg2194215)
Songs Sent During the Roulette (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2194220#msg2194220)
Tastes (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2194216#msg2194216)
Roulette Grading Scale (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2194221#msg2194221)
Roulette v1 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44434.0)
Old Top 50 List (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44367.0)
2015 Retrospective List (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47258.0)

Round Results
Round 1 First Impressions (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2195519#msg2195519) - Round 1 Results: Part 1 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2197216#msg2197216) - Part 2 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2197218#msg2197218)
Round 2 First Impressions (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2198401#msg2198401) - Round 2 Results: Part 1 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2200169#msg2200169) - Part 2 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2200171#msg2200171)
Round 3 First Impressions (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2200753#msg2200753) - Round 3 Results: Part 1 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2202702#msg2202702) - Part 2 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2202703#msg2202703)
Round 4 First Impressions (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2204111#msg2204111) - Round 4 Results: Part 1 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2206007#msg2206007) - Part 2 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2206008#msg2206008)
Round 5 First Impressions (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2206982#msg2206982) - Round 5 Results (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2208584#msg2208584)
Round 6 First Impressions (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2209519#msg2209519) - Round 6 Results (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2211109#msg2211109)
Round 7 First Impressions (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2214277#msg2214277) - Round 7 Results: Part 1 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2219183#msg2219183) - Part 2 (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2219184#msg2219184)
The Winner is... (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2219185#msg2219185)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 09:44:59 PM
Rules:
1. Send songs via PM. Iíd prefer mp3 downloads but youtube links are fine. Spotify links are not allowed, and you will be asked to resubmit.
2. The banned list is color-coded for your convenience.
Red means bands I have heard enough from to know I dislike them in general.
Orange means bands I donít actively listen to or own music from, but find generally alright.
Teal means bands I have looked into and plan to get an album from, or have an album but havenít listened to extensively yet.
Yellow means bands I like and own music from but donít quite love.
Green means one of my favorites.
3. In the interest of variety, if the same artist is sent multiple times in one round, only the first two submissions of the artist will be accepted. If the same song is sent by multiple people, only the first submission will be accepted.
4. I reserve the right to reject any song or artist not on the banlist, most likely because I either know the specific song or the band probably should be on my banlist (which I will update if so).

Roulette Structure:
No scores. Every round will be an elimination round.

Round 1:
2 players eliminated. 10 remain.
Song length limit: 10 minutes.

Round 2:
2 players eliminated. 8 remain.
Song length limit: 10 minutes.

Round 3:
2 players eliminated. 6 remain.
Song length limit: 10 minutes.

Round 4:
2 players eliminated. 4 remain.
Players will send two songs. The players who are eliminated will be as follows:
1.   The player who sends the worst overall song.
2.   The player whose higher-ranking song scores the worst.
3.   If these are both the same person, the player who sent the second worst higher-ranking song will be eliminated.
4.   Additionally, whoever sends the best overall song will automatically remain in the competition, even if they are the same person who also sends the worst overall song.
Song length limit: 16 minutes total between the two songs, and maximum 10 minutes for a single song.

Round 5:
1 player eliminated. 3 remain.
Song length limit: Minimum 8 minutes, maximum 15 minutes.

Round 6: 1 player eliminated. 2 remain.
Song length limit: Minimum 15 minutes. No fixed upper limit but please try to keep it under 30 minutes. Itís probably in your best interest to not go longer than that, anyways, though if you have a really awesome 45-60 minute epic you just have to share with me, you can try.

Round 7: 1 player eliminated. Remaining player is the winner.
This is the EP round. Iím going to be doing this a bit different from last time.
1.   You may send as many songs as you want, so long as the total length of the songs does not exceed 50 minutes. The minimum length is, letís go withÖ 30 minutes.
2.   You may not send more than 2 songs by the same artist, and the total length per artist must be under 12 minutes. I wonít stop both players from sending two songs each from the same artist, though. Thatíd be really funny.
3.   The ultimate goal is to send as many great songs as possible. Iím less concerned with EP flow and cohesiveness here, but it will be a factor. Please donít close your EP with an obvious album opener.
4.   Though I am not explicitly scoring songs, I will rank every song as usual. The average ranking of all the songs will be calculated and will likely be a factor in determining the winner, though the better-ranking EP may not necessarily be the winner.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 09:47:06 PM
Banned List:
65daysofstatic
A Perfect Circle
Admiron
Agalloch
Agent Fresco
Alcest
Algiers
Alrakis
Alter Bridge
Amadeus Awad
Amplifier
Anathema
Anciients
Animals As Leaders
Arcturus
Arjen Lucassen
Arsaidh
At the Drive-In
Auriga
Avenged Sevenfold
Ayreon
Baroness
Bastille
Being
Ben Folds
Ben Levin Group
Bent Knee
Between the Buried and Me
Beyond the Bridge
Big Big Train
Bing Satellites
Blink-182
Bodies of Water
Brand New
Bruce Springsteen
Burst
Burzum
Caligulaís Horse
Callisto
Canvas Solaris
Casualties of Cool
Cave In
Chelsea Wolfe
Chimp Spanner
CHON
Circus Maximus
Cloudkicker
Cobalt
Codes in the Clouds
Coheed & Cambria
Coldplay
Converge
Crisis
Cult of Luna
Cursive
Cynic
Damien Rice
David Bowie
David Maxim Micic
Day Without Dawn
Deafheaven
Destrage
Destiny Potato
Devin Townsend
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Dire Straits
Don Caballero
Dordeduh
Dragonforce
Dream Theater
Dysrhythmia
Earth
Earthside
East of the Wall
Eight Bells
El Drugstore
Eluvium
Enslaved
Ephel Duath
Esben & the Witch
Exivious
Exotic Animal Petting Zoo
Explosions in the Sky
Fallujah
Fates Warning
Foals
Foo Fighters
Frost*
fun.
GEoRGiA
Genesis
The Gentle Storm
Ghost
Glen Hansard
God is an Astronaut
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Gotye
Grace Cathedral Park
Graviton
Green Carnation
Gregor Samsa
Guilt Machine
Haken
Hammock
Have a Nice Life
He Is Legend
Headspace
Ihsahn
Inter Arma
Intronaut
IQ
Irepress
Iron Maiden
Isis
Jakob
Jesu
Jethro Tull
Jolly
Judas Priest
Julia Holter
Kamelot
Karnivool
Kayo Dot
Kimbra
King Crimson
Kontinuum
Lacuna Coil
Leprous
Lesoir
Levin Minnemann Rudess
Lorde
Mandroid Echostar
Marketa Irglova
Mastodon
maudlin of the Well
Maybeshewill
Megadeth
Merzbow
Metallica
Midnight Odyssey
Moonsorrow
Mono
Mouth of the Architect
Mr. Bungle
mķm
Muse
My Morning Jacket
Nadja
Native Construct
Ne Obliviscaris
Negură Bunget
Neurosis
Neutral Milk Hotel
Nightwish
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana
NY in 64
Oak Pantheon
Obsidian Kingdom
Oceans of Slumber
Oceansize
”lafur Arnalds
Opeth
opul
Oranssi Pazuzu
OSI
Our Ceasing Voice
Pain of Salvation
Panopticon
Patrick Wilson
Pelican
Periphery
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Premiata Forneria Marconi
Progenie Terrestre Pura
Protest the Hero
Pyramids
Quandary
Queen
Queensryche
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Red Sparowes
Rishloo
Riverside
Rodrigo y Gabriela
Rosetta
Royal Blood
Rush
Russian Circles
Saor
Scale the Summit
Schammasch
Schizoid Lloyd
Serdce
Seventh Wonder
Shining
Sia
Sigh
Sigur Růs
SikTh
Skyharbor
Slice the Cake
Slipknot
Smashing Pumpkins
Slayer
So Hideous
Sůlstafir
Soundgarden
Speaking to Stones
Spectral Lore
Star One
Stellardrone
Steven Wilson
Storm Corrosion
Sufjan Stevens
Swallow the Sun
Taylor Swift
TesseracT
Thank You Scientist
The Angelic Process
The Beatles
The Contortionist
The Cure
The Dear Hunter
The Dillinger Escape Plan
The Fall of Troy
The Hirsch Effekt
The Mars Volta
The Ocean
The Postman Syndrome
The Swell Season
The Sword
This Will Destroy You
Thomas Giles
Thrice
Thumpermonkey
Thy Catafalque
Thy Light
Tool
Toothgrinder
Transatlantic
Ulver
Unexpect
Vanden Plas
Vangough
Vattnet Viskar
Vektor
Vennart
Whispered
Widek
Winterfylleth
Wishbone Ash
Wolves in the Throne Room
Yes
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 09:47:51 PM
Tastes:
Iíll keep these brief because the longer these go the more confused people will be. And Iím going to be honest, I am really not looking to expand my tastes at this point in time. This is more to check out cool stuff that already fits nicely into my tastes, that I may not have known about. Sending risky stuff way out of my comfort zone is more than likely going to get you eliminated.

Metal: Oh boy do I like metal. Prog metal, black metal, sludge metal, post-metal, some mathcore, some metalcore, some death metal, some djent, even a little straight-up heavy metal. I donít like nu-metal, generally not a fan of thrash metal, and I really dislike deathcore.

Whatís really important for me with metal is that itís kept dynamic. Bands that feel the urge to be constantly heavy all the time and give the listener no breathing room are, in all honesty, really damn boring. Thereís a lot of ways to win me over, though. Strong melodies, crushing and crunchy riffs, thick atmosphere, controlled frantic energy, just raw power. Of course, with some lighter moments to break up the mood, or at least not a constantly crushing sound.

For me though metal has the most potential to be dynamic and interesting, and metal with influences from other genres (especially electronic as of late) really gets me interested. Metal stuff is probably the safest best for doing well but you donít have to stick exclusively to it; my favorites from my last roulette were, ironically, not metal at all.

Examples:

Black Metal:
Alrakis Ė Alpha Eri (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHtN3jOkp90)
Enslaved Ė Roots of the Mountain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DULdEgVgY8)
Thy Catafalque Ė Szervelten (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vKyJ0NI3g8)

Death Metal:
Ne Obliviscaris Ė Forget Not (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjWky-bnsgM)
Opeth Ė Ghost of Perdition (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDBykpSXsSE)

Metalcore/Mathcore:
Between the Buried and Me Ė Disease, Injury, Madness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ureUV73mk)
The Hirsch Effekt Ė Cotard (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zqhcc2uzos)

Post-Metal:
Isis Ė Grinning Mouths (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVAnKLsaFAo)
Rosetta Ė Absent (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiISiYK6VXs)

Prog Metal:
Haken Ė Cockroach King (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjrcXCAeNe4)
Pain of Salvation Ė Idioglossia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmrU2NahT2Q)
Riverside Ė Hybrid Times (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg-01P_BlPw)

Sludge Metal:
East of the Wall Ė The Apologist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZh6INr-KaI)
Intronaut Ė Fast Worms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOxxAdRtU1w)
The Ocean Ė Mesopelagic: Into the Uncanny (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba7y1ZYFODw)


Prog: My opinion on this has really changed in the past year or two. Iím pretty over the pointlessly technical, showboaty prog that feels far too dominant. Iíd rather hear bands come up with cool rhythms, diverse song structures, unique genre fusions. Of course Iím not averse to technicality either if itís done tastefully.

Examples:
Baroness Ė The Gnashing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuG6P-K1Fes)
CHON Ė Canít Wait (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK0dwP9nzJU)
Dream Theater Ė Take the Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvUzTheN-J0)
Oceansize Ė Trail of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PpLPx6XvIk)
Thank You Scientist Ė Carnival (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dpgF2spAo)

Rock: Straightforward hard rock is probably going to bore me. The rock I tend to like is generally more atmospheric or more rooted in emotional impact. Thatís not to say I wouldnít enjoy a good straightforward rock song, but my definition of good is probably not going to be yours here.

Examples:
Brand New Ė Limousine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FfF9fIDqFg)
Coheed and Cambria Ė Mother Superior (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZaEcRWD4nU)
Cursive Ė Driftwood: A Fairy Tale (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBJpsC52Bo)
Porcupine Tree Ė Trains (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UHwkfhwjsk)
Thrice Ė Between the End and Where We Lie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlrq7wle-Ao)

Post-Rock Donít send this to me, honestly. I like post-rock on a case-by-case basis and especially on an album basis more than a song basis. Thereís exceptions, of course, and if itís like a stunningly good song on its own merits then go ahead, but prepare to be disappointed.

Examples:
Cult of Luna Ė And With Her Came the Birds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSde9eP3axM)
Mew Ė Comforting Sounds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wSU4adAbSc)
Sigur Růs Ė Vaka (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQn7kEgskOg)
Sůlstafir Ė DjŠkninn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8inqYAESo)
This Will Destroy You Ė Villa del Refugio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2XFaf_5CzE)

Electronic/Pop: Make it atmospheric. I have little use for upbeat, bright pop. Maybe Iíll find it fun for a listen or two but Iíll get bored of it quick. I have little use for lifeless, cold, low-key electronica. It really needs to be evocative to work for me, well-textured and atmospheric, layers of synths, strings, piano, whatever else.

Devin Townsend Ė The Death of Music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDm8VrFrUf0)
fun. Ė Take Your Time (Coming Home) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufO1G9x7Qxk)
Gorillaz Ė El MaŮana (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yCH5SKN_M)
Julia Holter Ė Lucette Stranded on the Island (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhBhpQgN0MU)
Lorde Ė Buzzcut Season (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pstVCGyaUBM)

Djent: If djent is the primary genre tag that applies to a band, donít send them. If djent is an element used as part of a mix and is used tastefully, go ahead and try, I guess. There have been enough bands that have done this pretty well.

Examples:
Being Ė Air Atlantic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7QDKiorgnc)
Caligulaís Horse Ė Marigold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C5qnG0GLfI)
David Maxim Micic Ė Where is Now? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psDZdQKgzoE)
Leprous Ė The Flood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk8pDqW-dI4)
Skyharbor Ė New Devil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0vpm4c0GfQ)

Soundtracks: Iím going to reject this outright, honestly. I have no use for soundtracks outside of their original context. Iím not going to buy soundtracks for movies or games Iíve not seen/played.

Folk/World Music: I pretty exclusively like this as an element in a mix of genres rather than on its own. Folk-tinged rock or metal is pretty rad; standalone bluegrass or celtic music probably wonít do much for me. There are exceptions, as always, however.

Drone/Noise: Do you wanna have a bad time?

If thereís anything not listed here, Iíd consider treading with extreme caution. Which is to say, donít.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 09:51:03 PM
Banned During the Roulette:

Round 1:
Woods of Ypres
Novembre
Susanne SundfÝr
Amorphis
Tim Bowness
Phideaux
The Oracle
Symphony X
Bruce Dickinson
Fair to Midland
Jean Luc Ponty
Crowbar

Round 2:
We Made God
Goldfrapp
Dir En Grey
Sonata Arctica
dredg
HAIM
Children of Nova
Dio
AZEDIA
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum

Round 3:
Wilderun
Spock's Beard
The Old Dead Tree
Totalselfhatred
Biffy Clyro
Dark Tranquillity
Nils Frahm
Projected Twin

Round 4:
The Antlers
Purity Ring
Panzerballett
Pure Reason Revolution
Primordial
Blind Guardian
Caladan Brood
The Flower Kings
Within Temptation
The Human Abstract
Adebisi Shank
CHVRCHES

Round 5:
Elder
Avantasia
Ensiferum
Flying Colors

Round 6:
The Pineapple Thief
Flaming Row
Redemption

Round 7:
Nothing More
Slowdive
*Shels
Primal Fear
Gong
David Gilmour
Temperance
ŃrstŪūir
Trail of Murder
Ludovico Einaudi
Beardfish
iamthemorning
Serious Black
Eluveitie
Mark Knopfler
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 09:53:49 PM
Roulette Numeric Score Grading Scale

10: One of the best songs I've ever heard.
9: A fantastic song that I'll return to frequently.
8: A great song that I'll probably keep spinning.
7: Good, but not especially impressive; I may or may not check out the album.
6: Decent, but not particularly memorable or not something I'd keep listening to.
5: Pretty average, but not unpleasant to listen to.
4: Fairly mediocre, generic or uninspired.
3: Evokes little to no positive feelings and a fair bit of negative ones.
2: Yeah, you're definitely getting cut for sending me something this bad.
1: You're probably trolling if you get a score this low.
0: Merzbow is on the banned list.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Bolsters on July 22, 2016, 09:57:26 PM
Following. I think I'll wait to join your next real roulette.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 09:59:18 PM
please send me a song, bolsters-sama  :sadpanda:

also i just realized, i should've posted one more and then reserved a post, the empty one was gonna be used for explaining my scoring system but I can add that to the rules post instead 'cause I need a post for the roulette-banned bands
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Darkstarshades on July 22, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
Sounds fine by me.

Edit: wait, fuck, I just remember'd I'll be very busy these days, won't be able to be as I should.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 10:29:22 PM
(is that an /in or what?  :lol)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: splent on July 22, 2016, 10:55:56 PM
In and ready to lose
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Sacul on July 22, 2016, 11:57:52 PM
In and ready to lose
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 22, 2016, 11:59:31 PM
y'all should just be sending me a song, i guess, or something, take your time tho and pick good ones
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 23, 2016, 01:38:59 AM
Reading through all this I'm pretty confident in the song I sent. Bring it on boys :metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 23, 2016, 01:43:02 AM
I will read your "Tastes" and try to find something then. 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Scorpion on July 23, 2016, 01:55:37 AM
In.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Evermind on July 23, 2016, 01:57:20 AM
I think I will do exactly what you did in my roulette, Parama.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Elite on July 23, 2016, 02:11:28 AM
Hi, can I join? Only thing is that I'll be going in holiday next wednesday, so from then on I will not be able to send you mo3s (due to lack of a computer), but Youtube links should be no problem.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Evermind on July 23, 2016, 03:11:49 AM
Sent!

Thank you Parama and the participants, it was fun to play in this roulette while it lasted.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 23, 2016, 03:25:05 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Elite on July 23, 2016, 03:29:49 AM
Sent!

Thank you Parama and the participants, it was fun to play in this roulette while it lasted.

:lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 23, 2016, 04:03:47 AM
I'll give it a go. I'll probably find the most obscure metal in my library that I don't really like and send that. If it gets me through the first round then we'll see  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Bolsters on July 23, 2016, 04:08:11 AM
please send me a song, bolsters-sama  :sadpanda:
Ok
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: LordCost on July 23, 2016, 04:31:53 AM
I'm in! If I will made it to the final EP round probably I will have finished the artist I like that are not in the banned list, but I've got some bands left from your previous roulette to send :tup
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 23, 2016, 04:59:18 AM
Sent something doom-y and sludge-y  that I probably wouldn't send to anyone else  :rollin
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Bolsters on July 23, 2016, 06:10:26 AM
Sent metal.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 10:06:29 AM
everyone who wants to join can totally join, yes
Hi, can I join? Only thing is that I'll be going in holiday next wednesday, so from then on I will not be able to send you mo3s (due to lack of a computer), but Youtube links should be no problem.
it's find to send me youtube links, it's just primarily a convenience step for me to get the mp3's straightaway instead of having to convert videos to mp3s
lordcost needs to resend, but the rest of you are good

also it looks like y'all are thirsty for some numeric scoring. sure.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Evermind on July 23, 2016, 10:10:21 AM
Oh, I missed the MP3 part. Have you converted it yet? I can send you an MP3 file, no problem.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 10:19:56 AM
yeah you're fine, already got an mp3 of it.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Evermind on July 23, 2016, 10:48:43 AM
Okay, next time you'll get an mp3.

...

Who am I kidding? There won't be a next time. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 10:58:31 AM
that's the spirit  :tup
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: home on July 23, 2016, 11:26:07 AM
Can I join?  ;D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Zantera on July 23, 2016, 11:27:50 AM
Drone/Noise: Do you wanna have a bad time?

Now here's the buzzkiller
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 11:47:52 AM
ďZantera / Sacul musicĒ
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Tyrias on July 23, 2016, 12:48:52 PM
Just gonna send something risky, not much lost if you don't like it.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Scorpion on July 23, 2016, 12:50:03 PM
ďZantera / Sacul musicĒ

If I ever start a band that plays that style of music, I'll call it Zancul. Don't worry, Evermind will get credit.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 01:23:52 PM
Just gonna send something risky, not much lost if you don't like it.
yeah, pretty much the point of round 0  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: kingshmegland on July 23, 2016, 01:25:41 PM
ďZantera / Sacul musicĒ

If I ever start a band that plays that style of music, I'll call it Zancul. Don't worry, Evermind will get credit.

Sounds like a new pill comercial.

Zancul, brought to you by the Evermind Corp.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 01:29:29 PM
one zancul a day gives you immense musical power
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: kingshmegland on July 23, 2016, 01:30:34 PM
You will drop D for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Elite on July 23, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Drop D doesn't really sound that good for a pill advertisement though.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Scorpion on July 23, 2016, 01:33:55 PM
Drop D doesn't really sound that good for a pill advertisement though.

It's the quick medical solution to castration. 107% of all doctors recommend it!*

*Not really.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Evermind on July 23, 2016, 01:37:44 PM
Drop D doesn't really sound that good for a pill advertisement though.

It's the quick medical solution to castration. 107% of all doctors recommend it!*

*Not really.

Fixed that for you. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
i'm gonna do hangman in this roulette, but I'm going to give everyone The D from the start
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: kingshmegland on July 23, 2016, 01:41:48 PM
Drop D doesn't really sound that good for a pill advertisement though.

A counter to the blue pill if it lasts for more than 4 hours and you're shooting blanks.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 04:04:09 PM
i have 8 submissions right now, for the record. which means 4-5 of you (still not sure about darkstar?) need to send some songs. with 13 people it's definitely a round 0 so song length limit is 7:30, which nobody has sent over yet anyways so that's good
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 23, 2016, 10:19:39 PM
also i'm doing first listens in advance so i'll actually have first impressions tidbits up soon after the last song i receive, which should be fun  :corn
right now i have 9 out of the 12/13 players who've joined and i'll see if we get anymore in the next day or two
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 24, 2016, 01:19:23 PM
Omg still no results?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 24, 2016, 01:24:30 PM
Train of Naught: Novembre Ė Umana (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqpQ2Vkr7dk)

it succ

0/10

you brought this on yourself corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 24, 2016, 01:43:35 PM
Wtf I didnt send that song?? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 24, 2016, 08:08:52 PM
i'll probably close signups on like, tuesday or something i guess, that seems like enough time, we already have 12 players anyways so
Elite and Sacul still need to send, also
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Elite on July 25, 2016, 03:19:52 PM
yeah, sorry for being an asshole, but I'm going on holiday in less than a day, so it's probably best if I leave this roulette while I still can. I could be able to send songs, but it's not that convenient, not for you or me, if you have a participants that's hard to reach for a full three weeks.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 25, 2016, 03:39:18 PM
probably best yeah :lol

you better join my v2.5 tho
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Sacul on July 25, 2016, 05:44:32 PM
Sent some beautiful art rock
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on July 25, 2016, 08:19:39 PM
# of people who explicitly said they expect to be cut after this round: 4
# of people I'd currently be cutting after this round: 3
# of people who are gonna be dead wrong: At least 1.

Speaking of, I do have entries for everyone currently on the signup list, so I'll give this like 24 hours or so if any stragglers wanna sign up, but if not oh well  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: 425 on July 25, 2016, 10:40:16 PM
I sent something just now. Looking for that sweet participation trophy, probably, more than anything, given Parama's current tastes. :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 26, 2016, 09:32:03 PM
Alright, a few things. Since it's been plenty long enough, I'm going to close signups here.
I'm also going to close the poll, which means that I will be doing numeric scoring.

Give me a minute to post up my ratings scale and then I'll get you guys some delicious first impressions tidbits and probably some hangman too.
EDIT: Grading scale is up here (http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47943.msg2194221#msg2194221).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 26, 2016, 09:45:23 PM
Round 1 First Impressions

Theyíre all talented musicians, but the thing is, it doesnít really create music I find particularly compelling.

Itís hard to really get enthused about this but itís a solid track front-to-back, just nothing I havenít heard done before.

I do like the sound of this in general, but I also feel like itís a little one-note; Iím not sure it will hold up well on relistens.

Thereís some decent riffs and grooves here, but nothing particularly special, and the vocals are just a bit too offputting for me.

This does come to a fairly satisfying climax, but most of the time it feels like the vocalist is outsinging the music here.

I donít really think the vocalist has enough power in their voice to really sell the climax of the song, though, sounds a bit weak.

Itís the only part of the song that particularly stands out, and while I donít mind the rest, it feels pretty generic and lacking in any sense of dynamics.

Weirdly, Iím not sure I care for the clean vocals here, but the harsh vocals are pretty solid.

I canít really say this sounds particularly fresh, and thereís some minor gripes I have with it, but itís a solid song at the very least.

It makes it a bit hard to ever get into when it shoots off in another direction every ten seconds.

Definitely a fan of the quieter parts of this more than the heavier ones, and I think the vocals are the biggest factor in why.

Iíd say this is a song comprised mostly of elements I quite like with one element that Iím not a huge fan of.

Overall: It feels to me like a lot of people played it far too safe this round, giving me a good number of 6.0 entries that I don't mind but couldn't get particularly into either. There's one or two songs I'm pretty sure are going to be the ones to get cut, and a few that are definitely safe, but about half the songs I wouldn't be able to tell you yet. Maybe a lot of them will be growers, who knows.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 26, 2016, 09:55:46 PM
And now, the moment you've all been waiting for:

Round 1 Hangman!!!

???: ________ Ė ____ __ ___ _____
???: ________ Ė ____ ___ ______ ____
???: ________ Ė _____
???: _____ __ _____ Ė _________ & ___
???: ___ ______ Ė ___  ________
???: ________ _ Ė ___ ____ __ ______
???: _______ _______ Ė ____ (____ ____ ___ ______)
???: _______ Ė ___ _ ___
???: _____ _________ Ė ___ __ _____
???: ___ _______ Ė ____ __ __
???: ____ ___ _____ Ė ____  ____
???: ____ __ _______ Ė _____ __ ___ _______

To spice things up a little, guessing who sent what is now officially part of hangman  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on July 26, 2016, 10:14:20 PM
Amorphis - Sampo

Scorp sent it.


As for the tidbits, I have no idea, almost all of them could apply to my song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 26, 2016, 10:20:15 PM
Incorrect  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on July 26, 2016, 10:24:10 PM
:\

I suppose I should choose a letter. Let's go with G.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 26, 2016, 10:26:03 PM
I donít really think the vocalist has enough power in their voice to really sell the climax of the song, though, sounds a bit weak.
Probably mine, but I love his voice tbh, it fits so well with the ethereal sound of his music.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 26, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
Bolsters waits 3.

???: ________ Ė G___ __ ___ _____
???: ________ Ė ____ ___ ______ ____
???: ________ Ė _____
???: _____ __ _____ Ė __g_____g & ___
???: ___ ______ Ė ___  ________
???: ________ _ Ė ___ ____ __ ______
???: _______ _______ Ė ____ (____ ____ ___ ______)
???: _______ Ė ___ _ ___
???: _____ _________ Ė ___ __ _____
???: ___ _______ Ė ___g __ __
???: ____ ___ _____ Ė ___g  ___g
???: ____ __ _______ Ė _____ __ ___ _______
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 26, 2016, 10:35:46 PM
Very generic tidbits to be honest, not even going to attempt guessing which one is mine.

D, obviously.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 26, 2016, 10:54:58 PM
C'mon I tried to make them at least a little bit nongeneric but I don't want to give away too much either  :lol

Evermind waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.

???: ___d____ Ė G___ __ ___ _____
???: ________ Ė ____ ___ ______ ____
???: ________ Ė _____
???: ___d_ __ _____ Ė __g_____g & ____
???: ___ ______ Ė ___  ________
???: ________ _ Ė ___ ____ __ __d___
???: _______ ___d___ Ė ____ (D___ ____ ___ ______)
???: _______ Ė ___ _ __d
???: _____ D________ Ė ___ __ _____
???: ___ _______ Ė ___g __ __
???: ____ ___ _____ Ė ___g  ___g
???: ____ __ __d___d Ė D____ __ ___ _______
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 26, 2016, 11:01:50 PM
Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 26, 2016, 11:37:34 PM
one day i'll find out how you do that
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 26, 2016, 11:59:59 PM
I want the V
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 12:05:08 AM
Sacul waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDV

???: ___d____ Ė G___ __ ___ _____
???: ________ Ė ____ ___ ______ ____
???: __v_____ Ė _____
???: ___d_ __ _____ Ė __g_____g & ____
???: ___ ______ Ė ___  ________
???: ________ _ Ė ___ ____ __ __d___
???: _______ ___d___ Ė ____ (D___ ____ ___ ______)
???: _______ Ė ___ _ __d
???: _____ D________ Ė ___ __ _____
???: ___ _______ Ė ___g __ __
???: ____ ___ _____ Ė ___g  ___g
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 27, 2016, 01:10:41 AM
Gimme the E.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 01:17:53 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
Sacul waits 2.
Evermind waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVE

???: ___de___ Ė G___ __ __e ____e
???: ________ Ė ____ __e E____ ___e
???: __ve___e Ė _____
???: ___d_ __ ___e_ Ė __g_____g & ____
???: __e _____e Ė __e  ____e_e_
???: ________ _ Ė __e E_e_ __ _ed___
???: ______e ___d___ Ė ____ (D___ ____ __e ______)
???: _______ Ė ___ _ __d
???: ____e D________ Ė ___ __ ____e
???: ___ ____e__ Ė ___g __ _e
???: _e__ ___ _____ Ė ___g  ___g
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 27, 2016, 01:36:15 AM
After reading those tidbits I think we are all out in first round :corn

Gimme B. 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 27, 2016, 01:37:56 AM
You haven't got the full title for mine, may make it harder to guess  ???
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 27, 2016, 01:43:20 AM
Train of Naught: Novembre - Umana
Wow I'm so smart :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 27, 2016, 01:59:12 AM
Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 08:40:13 AM
Tomislav95 waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEB

???: ___de___ Ė G___ __ __e ____e
???: ________ Ė ____ __e E____ ___e
???: Novembre - Umana
???: ___d_ __ ___e_ Ė __g_____g & ____
???: __e _____e Ė __e  ____e_e_
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
???: ______e ___d___ Ė ____ (D___ ____ __e B_____)
???: ____b__ Ė ___ _ __d (_ G_ve)
???: B___e D________ Ė ___ __ ____e
???: ___ b___e__ Ė ___g __ _e
???: _e__ ___ _____ Ė ___g  ___g
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on July 27, 2016, 08:42:53 AM
N
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 09:14:57 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
Tomislav95 waits 2.
Scorpion waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEBN

???: ___de___ Ė G___ __ __e ____e
???: ________ Ė ____ __e E____ ___e
???: Novembre - Umana
???: ___d_ __ ___e_ Ė __g__n_ng & ____
???: __e _____e Ė __e  ____e_e_
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
???: ____ne __nd___ Ė ____ (D_n_ ____ __e B____n)
???: ____b__ Ė ___ _ __d (_ G_ve)
???: B___e D____n__n Ė ___ __ ____e
???: ___ B__ne__ Ė __ng __ _e
???: _e_n ___ __n__ Ė __ng  __ng
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: LordCost on July 27, 2016, 09:52:33 AM
Round 1 First Impressions

Theyíre all talented musicians, but the thing is, it doesnít really create music I find particularly compelling.

Itís hard to really get enthused about this but itís a solid track front-to-back, just nothing I havenít heard done before.

I do like the sound of this in general, but I also feel like itís a little one-note; Iím not sure it will hold up well on relistens.

Thereís some decent riffs and grooves here, but nothing particularly special, and the vocals are just a bit too offputting for me.

This does come to a fairly satisfying climax, but most of the time it feels like the vocalist is outsinging the music here.

I donít really think the vocalist has enough power in their voice to really sell the climax of the song, though, sounds a bit weak.

Itís the only part of the song that particularly stands out, and while I donít mind the rest, it feels pretty generic and lacking in any sense of dynamics.

Weirdly, Iím not sure I care for the clean vocals here, but the harsh vocals are pretty solid.

I canít really say this sounds particularly fresh, and thereís some minor gripes I have with it, but itís a solid song at the very least.

It makes it a bit hard to ever get into when it shoots off in another direction every ten seconds.

Definitely a fan of the quieter parts of this more than the heavier ones, and I think the vocals are the biggest factor in why.

Iíd say this is a song comprised mostly of elements I quite like with one element that Iím not a huge fan of.

Overall: It feels to me like a lot of people played it far too safe this round, giving me a good number of 6.0 entries that I don't mind but couldn't get particularly into either. There's one or two songs I'm pretty sure are going to be the ones to get cut, and a few that are definitely safe, but about half the songs I wouldn't be able to tell you yet. Maybe a lot of them will be growers, who knows.

Probably the first one is mine. The only positive one that could be mine is the last one, but it seems that there aren't much positive first impressions. I hope to be one of the 6.0 that doesn't get cut.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 27, 2016, 09:55:28 AM
U
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: splent on July 27, 2016, 11:41:18 AM
Mine's probably going to get cut :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 11:49:10 AM
BTW I'm at work on phone so no hangmanen updates for about 7 more hours
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 27, 2016, 11:55:12 AM
Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)

Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 12:16:13 PM
also those are both right
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
Sacul waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
Tomislav95 waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEBNU

???: ___de_u_ Ė G___ __ __e ____e
???: ________ Ė ____ __e E____ ___e
???: Novembre - Umana
???: ___d_ __ ___e_ Ė __g__n_ng & ____
???: __e _____e Ė __e  ____e_e_
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
???: Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)
???: ____b__ Ė ___ _ __d (_ G_ve)
???: Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
???: ___ B__ne__ Ė __ng __ _e
???: _e_n _u_ __n__ Ė __ng  __ng
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on July 27, 2016, 09:09:07 PM
Sorry, Parama, but Zantera/Sacul music occasionally includes something I like. More frequently than Paramacore.

Both pretty much lie outside the bounds of 425 music, though.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 27, 2016, 09:25:50 PM
I'll find some paramacore you like in your next roulette then  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 28, 2016, 01:24:53 AM
Gimme dat A.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 01:29:32 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
Sacul waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEBNUA

???: ___deau_ Ė G___ __ __e __a_e
???: A_______ Ė ____ __e Ea___ ___e
???: Novembre - Umana
???: ___d_ __ ___e_ Ė __g__n_ng & ____
???: __e __a__e Ė __e  ____e_e_
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
???: Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)
???: ____ba_ Ė A__ _ _ad (_ Gave)
???: Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
???: ___ B__ne__ Ė __ng __ _e
???: _ean _u_ __n__ Ė __ng  __ng
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 28, 2016, 01:36:20 AM
Jean-Luc Ponty - King Kong. I think splent sent it.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 28, 2016, 01:53:01 AM
Phideaux - Gift of the Flame
Crowbar - All I Had (I Gave)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 28, 2016, 02:24:19 AM
R
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 28, 2016, 02:39:42 AM
You explicitly told us that youre not looking to cover new ground musically so of course youll get somewhat 'safe' entries in the first round :lol

Any of those tits could be mine but im guessing its the one where youre not a fan of one element in particular which would be the spoken words sample, I hate it myself too, brings the song down from a 9 to a 8.75.

Why is my song ??? Tomislav 'guessed' correctly that it was me.

Arc of space is 425, has no one guessed this yet?

the crisis
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 28, 2016, 02:53:45 AM
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure that Evermind sent Phideaux.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 28, 2016, 03:11:53 AM
I'm pretty sure of that too.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on July 28, 2016, 03:53:02 AM
Crowbar - All I Had (I Gave)

I can see why Parama would consider this a safe round... ;) And oops, was guessed already.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 08:44:11 AM
Evermind waits 3.
Sacul waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEBNUR

Evermind: Phideaux - Gift of the Flame
???: A__r____ Ė _r__ __e Ea_r_ R__e
Train of Naught: Novembre - Umana
???: ___d_ __ __re_ Ė __g__n_ng & ____
???: __e _ra__e Ė __e  __r_erer
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
???: Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)
???: Crowbar - All I Had (I Gave)
425: Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
???: ___ B__ne__ Ė __ng __ _e
splent: Jean-Luc Ponty - King Kong
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on July 28, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Ugh, nevermind.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Zantera on July 28, 2016, 10:30:35 AM
I'm proud and happy to see that Zantera/Sacul music is beating out Paramacore in the poll. More and more people are starting to appreciate the sound of vacuum cleaners and power drills being used to create music. Glorious times.  :heart
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 10:49:11 AM
Ugh, nevermind.
???
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 28, 2016, 12:54:18 PM
I'm proud and happy to see that Zantera/Sacul music is beating out Paramacore in the poll. More and more people are starting to appreciate the sound of vacuum cleaners and power drills being used to create music. Glorious times.  :heart
I hope this makes a slow but steady acceptance of harsh noise as a legitimate form of music :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 12:56:56 PM
ground zero for harsh noise becoming the new pop: my roulette

merzbow hits #1 in the US and goes triple platinum
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 28, 2016, 01:21:58 PM
Voted for Zantera / Sacul because I'm obviously biased.

I mostly don't give a damn about both genres though, listening to some power metal Mark Knopfler right now and thoroughly enjoying it.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 28, 2016, 01:32:18 PM
Listening to some powermetal aswell

I liked that Rosetta song so Im voting for Paramacore. I have no idea what defines Sacul / Pantera music tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 28, 2016, 01:36:27 PM
I have no idea what defines Sacul / Pantera music tbh

Vulgar Displays of Power, mostly.













:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 01:57:52 PM
I don't listen to Pantera tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 28, 2016, 02:23:08 PM
I don't listen to Pantera tbh

I find it strange that you don't. In my experience Pantera are the band that split opinion least. Also, they are fucking great!! Watch 3 Vulgar videos from Hell then tell me I'm wrong  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 28, 2016, 02:26:05 PM
I can't stand Pantera.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 02:30:52 PM
I hate the vocals more than anything tbh.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 28, 2016, 02:41:57 PM
ARE YOU TALKING TO ME? 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 28, 2016, 03:03:43 PM
Well at least you don't hate Dimebag, we all know that is blasphemy  :lol

But seriously, one of my favourite metal bands of all time!! And probably the band at the top of my list for 'bands I wish I could've seen in their prime', followed closely by Led Zeppelin  :metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Zantera on July 28, 2016, 03:41:32 PM
Not to side-rail the roulette completely but interestingly enough I didn't know about Pantera when I came up with the name. They have some classic metal songs though, like Walk.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean odds are I won't have results until Saturday anyways I only have time to listen to songs once a day and I've only done two listens thus far so
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 28, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
anyways someone should actually guess a letter
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 29, 2016, 12:02:38 AM
I wanna see an O.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on July 29, 2016, 12:11:46 AM
I'm proud and happy to see that Zantera/Sacul music is beating out Paramacore in the poll. More and more people are starting to appreciate the sound of vacuum cleaners and power drills being used to create music. Glorious times.  :heart

Totally not why I voted Zantera/Sacul music but okay. :lol

I was thinking of more like weird-but-sort-of-good things that kinda fall in that category to me. Like that 36 minute instrumental Sacul sent in the championship from Kashiwa Daisuke. As compared to, like, East of the Wall from Paramacore.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 12:37:31 AM
to be fair Underachiever is about the most intense song I like period, so

Scorpion waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEBNURO

Evermind: Phideaux - Gift of the Flame
???: A_or____ Ė _ro_ __e Ea_r_ Ro_e
Train of Naught: Novembre - Umana
???: _ood_ o_ __re_ Ė __g__n_ng & __o_
???: __e Ora__e Ė __e  _or_erer
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
???: Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)
???: Crowbar - All I Had (I Gave)
425: Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
???: ___ Bo_ne__ Ė __ng _o _e
splent: Jean-Luc Ponty - King Kong
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on July 29, 2016, 12:40:54 AM
The Oracle - The something
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 12:48:48 AM
The "oops I made a typo but I fixed it now" to be precise.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 29, 2016, 12:49:49 AM
The Sorcerer?

I also see Woods of Ypres, dunno the song though.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 29, 2016, 12:54:14 AM
Lightning & Pot Glow?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 01:00:59 AM
@evermind both correct
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 29, 2016, 01:30:25 AM
The Woods of Ypres song is Lightning & Snow.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on July 29, 2016, 03:22:56 AM
???: A_or____ Ė _ro_ __e Ea_r_ Ro_e

If the artist in question is Amorphis, there's something very wrong with the song title :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 29, 2016, 05:22:14 AM
I like how I unintentionally started a Pantera discussion on one of Parama's threads, I was just trying to make a dumb joke

Cemetary Gates and Cowboys From Hell are :metal and I fucking hate Walk with a passion, don't really know any other songs of theirs :lol

???: A_or____ Ė _ro_ __e Ea_r_ Ro_e

If the artist in question is Amorphis, there's something very wrong with the song title :corn

Yes, most likely. This looks like "From The Eatrh Rose" or something? Is our host drunk perhaps? It's not even close :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on July 29, 2016, 05:29:03 AM
He probably got a Youtube link or something where the title is wrong. The song is actually called "From Earth I Rose".
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on July 29, 2016, 07:10:06 AM
My file is tagged "From The Earth I Rose", didn't even realise that was incorrect. Stupid whatever-database-my-ripper-uses.

But it was definitely spelled correctly. :loser:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 08:38:47 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEBNURO

Evermind: Phideaux - Gift of the Flame
???: Amorphis Ė From Earth I Rose
Train of Naught: Novembre - Umana
???: Woods of Ypres Ė Lightning & Snow
???: The Oracle - The Sorcerer
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
???: Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)
???: Crowbar - All I Had (I Gave)
425: Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
???: ___ Bo_ne__ Ė __ng _o _e
splent: Jean-Luc Ponty - King Kong
???: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee

so that's only partially my fault  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 29, 2016, 08:46:36 AM
I'm guessing that Tomislav95 sent Woods of Ypres, and Bolsters sent Amorphis (not much of a guess).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 29, 2016, 08:49:30 AM
I'll add home + Fair To Midland to that

Tyrias = Susanne Sundfor and Scorp = Symphony X?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 29, 2016, 09:02:41 AM
Yes, I sent Woods.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 09:05:32 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed:
GDVEBNURO

Evermind: Phideaux - Gift of the Flame
Bolsters: Amorphis Ė From Earth I Rose
Train of Naught: Novembre - Umana
Tomislav95: Woods of Ypres Ė Lightning & Snow
???: The Oracle - The Sorcerer
???: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
Tyrias: Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)
???: Crowbar - All I Had (I Gave)
425: Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
???: ___ Bo_ne__ Ė __ng _o _e
splent: Jean-Luc Ponty - King Kong
home: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 29, 2016, 10:38:48 AM
The crowbar was sent by Scorp.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 29, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Give me the double U
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 29, 2016, 10:57:33 AM
I don't have a clue what the unknown one is, but deductive reasoning leads me to believe it to be Sacul's song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 11:00:43 AM
sacul is wrong, scorpion is right
also I'll update later but the letter after Bo is w
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 29, 2016, 11:05:40 AM
Tim Bowness - Sing to Me

I had actually heard of the guy before, but I had to look up the song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 29, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
twosuitsluke sent Crowbar, right? 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 11:08:53 AM
yes and yes

Also since exactly two peoples' entries haven't been matched to users and I already said scorp didn't send Symphony x this is basically done now  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 29, 2016, 11:14:56 AM
Oh ok

LoCo sent Symphony X and Scorpion sent Novembre, got it
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 29, 2016, 11:15:31 AM
Okay, so now that we've done our work, WHERE ARE OUR RESULTS
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 29, 2016, 11:22:44 AM
Anyone expecting more than a 7?

I anticipate most entries to be met with apathy. Judging by previous Parama comments I've seen on various threads :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 29, 2016, 11:27:27 AM
I hope I did better than the first round of the first Parama roulette. :lol That was terrible, I honestly don't understand how I didn't end up in last place there.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 29, 2016, 11:31:35 AM
Yeah, Parama never likes anything, so I'm happy if I'm above a 6, tbh.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 11:32:51 AM
I'll admit that I'm disappointed in this round but I guess I should have pushed harder that the point is to send the best songs you possibly can (within the time limit ofc) and that entries playing it safe are 1. Really obvious and 2. Likely not going to score great but w/e  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 29, 2016, 12:01:39 PM
my song is at least 8/10 but i expect 6/10 tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 29, 2016, 01:25:20 PM
I expect 6/10, but I will probably get 4/10, which is no big deal since it's Parama's roulette after all.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 29, 2016, 01:36:19 PM
my song is at least 8/10 but i expect 6/10 tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: splent on July 29, 2016, 07:49:25 PM
Mine is going to be the lowest and I'll be eliminated.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 08:05:49 PM
Evermind: Phideaux - Gift of the Flame
Bolsters: Amorphis Ė From Earth I Rose
Train of Naught: Novembre - Umana
Tomislav95: Woods of Ypres Ė Lightning & Snow
???: The Oracle - The Sorcerer
LordCost: Symphony X - The Eyes of Medusa
Tyrias: Susanne Sundfor - Stop (Don't Push the Button)
twosuitsluke: Crowbar - All I Had (I Gave)
425: Bruce Dickinson - Arc of Space
Sacul: Tim Bowness - Sing to Me
splent: Jean-Luc Ponty - King Kong
home: Fair to Midland - Dance of the Manatee

Technically, nobody has correctly guessed the last one  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on July 29, 2016, 09:44:10 PM
The last one must then be... Scorpion  :o

(http://i.imgur.com/XWOuu8G.gif)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 29, 2016, 10:50:22 PM
i did preliminary rankings after the fourth listen and i'm hardcore going "what the hell none of these rankings look right" so i'm basically screwed, everyone's cut roulette's over gg
srsly tho i know absolutely 100% one person who's going to get cut, 90% sure on a second, and i have no clue who the third is. maybe i'll just cut 2 and make this round 0 so i can prolong the minilette :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 30, 2016, 03:28:08 AM
I mean you could do that, but then youll have to deal with 10 bad songs next round instead of 9
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 30, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
yeah that's the problem, you'd all kill me with cruddy music by round 4 if i gave an extra round
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on July 30, 2016, 12:03:20 PM
Here, I'll make it easy for you.

If I somehow survive this round, I'll send you power metal from 80s.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 30, 2016, 07:41:27 PM
i've done three writeups and i'll try to get the rest done tonight but i'm apparently super slow at doing writeups because i elaborate too much lol, took an hour just to write for three songs

if i don't finish tonight i'll definitely have results up tomorrow though
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on July 31, 2016, 04:19:47 PM
its tomorrow

where are my results
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 31, 2016, 04:22:11 PM
i have one more writeup to do and then i have to decide between 10th and 9th because i still haven't yet
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 31, 2016, 05:38:19 PM
okay, i'm legitimately stressing out trying to decide between 8th, 9th, and 10th, i just can't do it, sorry. i may just cut out one of the later rounds? i'll think about it. 7 rounds feels like too much tbh. but yeah, let me polish up the results post, and then it'll probably be like, three posts lol

my ep round results in my last roulette was about 36k characters long, compared to about 32k for this round's results, if you're wondering why it took me so damn long to do writeups lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 31, 2016, 05:43:55 PM
Climbing the Ranks:

#10: home: Fair to Midland Ė Dance of the Manatee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjW-j2PAv-I)

First Impressions:
Another band Iíve heard of but never really listened to. I thought these guys were like some kind of indie rock thing. And considering the verse they kind of are, actually. That being said thereís a nice groove and a nice amount of atmosphere to this. The really high vocal notes are maybe a bit grating but generally Iím fine with these vocals. Sort of some nu-metal vibes to this too, which, eeehh. I canít really say this sounds particularly fresh, and thereís some minor gripes I have with it, but itís a solid song at the very least.

Final Thoughts:
Iím actually fairly certain I gave this album a listen at some point, or one of their albums, because going on the bandís RYM I totally recognize that band photo from somewhere or other and these album names sound a bit familiar too. Anyways thatís a minor aside.

This isÖ a song that exists, definitely. Uhh. The groove of the guitar during the verse is pretty nice. The vocal melodies in the prechorus are nice. The chorus is okay, thereís a decent amount of power to it, but that high note isÖ it sounds off, somehow. The heavy breakdown in the middle feels to me like theyíre trying to sound like Disturbed, which is not a good band to try to sound like, I quite dislike Disturbed. Granted it also sounds way better than Disturbed ever have, itís tolerable and okay enough, but still.

When I turn this up loud enough I notice that thereís like, a lot of weird stuff going on in the background. Thereís this weird dissonant piano line and what sounds like some off-kilter strings that are both really low in the mix and Iím not sure why theyíre there at all, honestly. I donít know what they add to the song though I donít think they take away anything either. Maybe a little unsettling to have at all, I suppose.

Itís a fairly simple, straightforward song on the whole, a basic verse-chorus structure with a bridge in the middle. The kind of song where all the individual elements have to be great because they get reused so much. And here, theyíreÖ fine. The intro riff is a little meh, but I like the verse and the chorus for what they are. At the same time this just doesnít stick out in any real way to me. Itís possibly the most flavorless song of the entire round. Thereís nothing here that I feel like I couldnít get done better in some other song that Iíve probably already heard.

6.25/10



#9: 425: Bruce Dickinson Ė Arc of Space (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAyfkSbmKlQ&)

First Impressions:
MmmÖ this is just coming off as a pretty bog-standard ballad to me. I mean, yeah, Dickinson is a great singer and injects a lot of power into this, but heís about the only thing making this feel alive. The strings are nice, I suppose. And the acoustic guitar solo, always a fan of that kind of guitar work. This does come to a fairly satisfying climax, but most of the time it feels like the vocalist is outsinging the music here. And itís a bit too monotonous front to back. I can like songs like this, and maybe this will grow on me, but itís a bitÖ generic.

Final Thoughts:
I think whatís most tragic about this song is that, in the context of the album itís on, it appears to be the quiet closer of a heavier album, and in that context, I bet it works really well. I have no clue, Iíve never heard the album, but itís definitely a tried-and-tested formula to end an album with a softer ballad like this.

Dickinson is pretty clearly showing that heís just a generally good singer here, his vocals being the primary focus of the song, and that chorus being quite strong and powerful. The verses are alright too but the first half of the song is pretty clearly just a buildup to the grander second half. I have no real complaints about the vocals on this track, theyíre quite good, though Iím sure thatís not surprising.

Itís justÖ Iím not sure the music can match him, not at any point of the song. The first half of the song is mostly filled with somber acoustic strumming and a solid melodic bassline backing it. And Dickinson is just belting way over the quieter music, his level of intensity is just too far above the restrained rest of the song. Thereís just a disconnect for me there. I wouldnít want the vocals to tone down, though, so I have to call it a failing of the music. The back half adds some layers of strings to sound fuller and more intense, and at the same time Dickinsonís singing gets even more powerful for the choruses, leaving the music trying to play catchup again.

The second chorus does make for a decent climax, but I still feel like it shouldíve gone further. Like, at some point, the drums and crunchy guitars shouldíve kicked in, and then maybe the music would be able to match the intensity of the vocals, and it wouldíve come together for something really powerful and moving. I see the possibility for a really good song here, but what Iím left with is more like, a decent one that misses out on its potential.

Iíll admit that the ďacousticĒ album or live performance is something Iíve never been much a fan of, either; itís toning down songs that were meant to be played with more intensity, and in most cases just really takes away the power they have. Thatís the same effect Iím feeling here; almost like there was a proper power ballad version of this with the same level of vocal intensity and Iím listening to the acoustic version of that song.

Perhaps Iím fixating on this one thing a lot, because all the elements of this taken separately are pretty good. As Iíve said, the vocals are great, and I really like the inclusion of strings. The two short guitar solos are also very nice, they fit the somber mood of the music well, and Iím never one to complain about a good guitar solo anyways. The rest is musically a bit generic though, just doesnít stick with me in any way, but most of the rest has vocals over it, so thatís fair enough.

I wish I liked this more than I do, perhaps more here than any other song in this round. Maybe it just hasnít clicked for me yet, because I definitely do enjoy this song, but itís a far cry from what I feel it couldíve been, and itís not particularly unique for what it is, either, just a decent execution of a decent type of song. I think thatís really the biggest issue I have with this, despite my lingering on other things; itís nothing I havenít heard before, and I donít have any personal connection to it, so I donít find myself getting a ton out of it.

6.25/10



#8: LordCost: #8: Symphony X Ė The Eyes of Medusa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0y12Ori48A)

First Impressions:
The intro riff worries me because it sounds exactly like something Iíve heard a dozen times, but that may be because itís a solid riff structure, so. I think theyíre relying a bit too heavily on ďpalm-muted chuggy riffĒ here in terms of guitar work. I can barely even tell the verse and the chorus apart on this one, the first time the chorus happened I wasnít even aware it was supposed to be the chorus until the next verse started. The symphonic break in the middle is cool, but it kind of just happens abruptly. Itís the only part of the song that particularly stands out, and while I donít mind the rest, it feels pretty generic and lacking in any sense of dynamics.

Final Thoughts:
Specifically, the intro riff reminds me of part of This Dying Soul, a song that came out after this one, so itís not like Iím saying itís a ripoff or anything, just, yíknow, not a fairly uncommon riff sound.  Iím also not sure if the riffs are actually all palm muted or if itís just the really muted guitar tone thatís making them sound that way. I am not a fan of that guitar tone, to say the least. It makes everything sound really muddy and muted.

I think my criticism of ďnot being able to tell the verse and chorus apartĒ holds up, because the chorus doesnít feel particularly bigger or distinct from the verses; but, given several listens of it, Iíd say itís definitely a solid chorus on its own merits. The vocal melodies are certainly interesting. Thereís not a ton of power in the instrumentation, though; the muted guitars are all crunch and no punch, and the synthstrings are so buried in the mix that they donít add any power or atmosphere either. Vocals are good though, certainly.

The obvious highlight of this song is that middle symphonic bit, which is really quite great. The dense strings combined with a mournful guitar lead and the drums providing minimal driving accompaniment, it comes together in a really cool way. I definitely want more of that, and less of the chuggy, fairly generic metal that makes up the rest of the song.

Thatís basically it as far as the song goes though, thereís not a ton to talk about here. Thereís a short, solid guitar solo in there somewhere, I think, but itís nothing that special either. I donít mind this, and I probably wouldnít turn it off if it was playing, but Iím only particularly interested in one minute of this five-and-a-half minute song, and could probably live without the rest.

6.5/10



#7: Scorpion: The Oracle Ė The Sorcerer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRXdlGF134)

First Impressions:
Dig the subtle, atmospheric intro for sure. Maybe not so much the harsh vocals on this though. The really raspy style of vocals just isnít my thing. The production is a bit weird here too, a bit too muddy possibly but then the bass comes through well so Iím not so sure. The one rhythmic riff gets hammered on a bit too much, though itís pretty solid and groovy otherwise. Definitely a fan of the quieter parts of this more than the heavier ones, and I think the vocals are the biggest factor in why. Still, this is solid enough overall, though probably not a round-winner. I wanna hear whatever song was starting up at the end there too. Sounded like a cool intro to something else.

Final Thoughts:
Black metal vocals, for me, work best as part of the atmosphere. The heavier moments of this song, they donít really have tons of atmosphere, so thereís no backdrop for the screeching vocals to bleed into, and theyíre really raspy even aside from that, which is probably my least favorite style of harsh vocals, aside from maybe metalcore screeches.

The 4-2-4-2-4 riff that a lot of the song is based on is probably not the best base for a song, either. Itís a nice driving rhythm that gets used a lot, andÖ thatís exactly it, itís not a particularly fresh musical idea, and while nice in small doses, having good chunks of the song be driven by it means good chunks of the song that donít particularly stand out.

The moments on this song that are atmospheric, namely the quiet ones, are all quite well done, though. I enjoy the ominous synth intro with the somber vocals, and the really spacey, eerie middle bit with sinister whispering and guitar melodies going on is really quite haunting, I wish it went on for longer. Thereís a really intense moment when the song kicks back in after, too, that I quite enjoy, though beyond that the song just repeats ideas from earlier until it hits the segue until the next track.

Looking into this, it seems to be one of those all-the-songs-flow-into-each-other albums, which tends to be something I like a lot, though as a result Iím not really going to consider that last brief bit as part of this song, as cool as it is, because itís clearly the intro to the next track. On the basis of this song alone, Iím not incredibly enthused about this band, but I like it enough that Iíll probably give the album a spin at some point, for sure.

I feel like I have very little to say about this one, though, itís just solid in a not particularly unique way; decent riffs, some cool atmospheric breaks, and some raspy vocals that detract a little but not too terribly much. Itís interesting enough and probably the most Parama-targeted song of the entire round, just not really a standout by any means.

7/10



#6: Evermind: Phideaux Ė Gift of the Flame (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Xm9RlijCE)

First Impressions:
The way this starts is a bit strange, but in a good way. The measures of free time transitioning right into a straight beat. Oh man this suddenly turned into funk with the sax, nice. Oh, so itís not an instrumental. Why is this song so spastic. The wacky funk bass sound kind of feels a bit out of place during parts of this. The vocals on this are fine, but donít really do much for me either way, theyíre justÖ there. This song just kinda seems to want to do its own thing, and while thatís fine it makes it a bit hard to ever get into when it shoots off in another direction every ten seconds.

Final Thoughts:
I really love how this song starts, honestly. The free-time guitar line transitioning into a driving, melancholic beat with some nice guitar lines over it. I kinda wish the song stuck to that vibe instead of veering off into random directions like it seems to enjoy doing, because that was a cool vibe they had going that ends up getting interrupted by funk sax and bass bits that are kinda neat but just feel a bit out of place. The more intense build right before the vocals come in is a nice little bit too.

The bass tone aside, I donít mind the meat of this song despite it not really being a continuation of the parts of the intro I liked. Thereís a fun groove and a lot of life to the song, and it definitely doesnít get boring. The sax and strings are both always welcome additions and add to the bouncy feel of the song, definitely wouldnít be as enjoyable a listen without them. That really cheesy funk bass tone is still something I havenít warmed up to, though, itís not that prevalent and Iím not too bothered by it, but it is there nonetheless.

Honestly my biggest gripe with this song is more a personal thing, ďfunĒ music like this tends not to hit me as strongly as atmospheric music or powerful, intense music, but thereís still a place for it, certainly. And I do wish the driving, darker feel of the opening bit had taken control of the mood of the song, but. Again, a personal thing. While not my favorite of the bunch, itís certainly a unique song in its own right, definitely stands out for being one of the most colorful songs in the bunch, and I did always look forward to hearing it come on. So, sorry, but youíre definitely not getting cut that easily.

7/10



#5: Sacul: Tim Bowness Ė Sing to Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBPLwjZ8Vno)

First Impressions:
I get big Steven Wilson vibes off this for some reason. It takes a little bit to get going but itís nice and pleasant on the way there, at least. Okay, definitely huge Steven Wilson vibes around the four minute mark. I donít really think the vocalist has enough power in their voice to really sell the climax of the song, though, sounds a bit weak. I canít find much to say about this except that I like it, and that itís the kind of song I expect to be a grower on future listens.

Final Thoughts:
Iím not sure this has the same emotional depth or potency as good Steven Wilson ballads. Itís very pretty and thereís a good deal of melancholy, but itís not trying to destroy me, I donít feel any agony and I donít feel my soul dying in any way while listening to this. But I mean, itís still pleasant in the same ways, at the very least.

I think this takes a bit too long to really get going, thereís not much movement until halfway through when the song really kicks in, but thereís a lot more to it once it does. The chorus gets more powerful, a break for a more somber moment, the incredibly Wilsony la da da bit and a great guitar duet as the song builds up to its climax.

The vocals feel like they let this song down a little though, they are very flat and monotone. Thereís exactly the same level of intensity in the quiet opening verses as there are in the climactic last chorus. Theyíre so unchanging, it almost feels like he just copied and pasted the same chorus bit every time. Thatís probably a big reason why the first half fails to grab me as much, the vocals are the primary focus there and they just do nothing for three minutes.

I guess itís a little unfair to say nothing happens in the first half since really there are a lot of subtle textures and atmospheric things happening, but itís certainly not enough to keep me interested. And the second half fails to have as much power as it should have due to the vocals letting it down, but musically itís really nice, for sure. Maybe not the most unique song out there but despite some gripes I still enjoy this on the whole and itís fairly easy to listen to, it doesnít feel like it drags and it doesnít bore me. A pleasant song.

7.25/10



#4: Bolsters: Amorphis Ė From Earth I Rose (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAdsum5NE7g)

First Impressions:
Iím finding it hard to have much to say about this. I like the huge, grand sound the song has. The vocals are pretty solid, and the song doesnít seem to stagnate anywhere  I guess what Iím waiting for is something really ear-catching or interesting to happen, but if the song wants to stay at this level the entire way through, I wouldnít complain either. The synth/guitar dual solo thing going on is pretty solid, I guess. Itís hard to really get enthused about this but itís a solid track front-to-back, just nothing I havenít heard done before.

Final Thoughts:
I always get these guys mixed up with Scar Symmetry for some reason, which, I mean, theyíre proggy melodeath bands Iíve heard of and never really listened to so I guess it makes sense.

The intro guitar melody isÖ solid. And thereís some nice heavy instrumentation backing it. I enjoy it. I definitely enjoy it more though when it switches to the 3/4 verse. Something about the guitar line and the drums and rhythm here, it creates a cool sound. The clean vocals arenít my favorite, a bit too bassy, but theyíre fine.

The instrumental section here is pretty nice as well, not really particularly unique, but just, solid. Thereís a nice build up to it and a lot of small things going on. Like, I somehow didnít notice that flute at all the first time, but thatís really cool. The way all the lead instruments come together and are all playing at the same time as it builds, makes for a really grand finale.

The way the song is structured is a bit weird when I stop and think about it thoughÖ thereís this heavy intro thatís mostly disconnected from the rest of the song; the guitar melody comes back for a moment later, and most of the growled vocals are here, but... itís weird in that it seems like the kind of thing theyíd eventually return to, but never do. This isnít really even a complaint, since the intro is probably my least favorite part of the song anyways, just an observation.

While I donít think I feel really strongly about this song, and it never really hits ďgreatĒ until near the very end, itís consistently solid front-to-back and I do enjoy listening to it. I wouldíve never pinned this as an album closer, though, which it apparently is, feels far more like an opener to me. Huh.

7.5/10
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on July 31, 2016, 05:44:55 PM
#3: Tyrias: Susanne SundfÝr Ė Stop (Don't Push The Button) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_JK46Rwda8)

First Impressions:
From the string intro alone I already feel like I like this more than the previous song I heard from her. Though I am much less a fan of the buzzsaw synth. Oh, damn, those vocal harmonies are gorgeous. Yeah, that synth is the only really grating thing here, Iím not a huge fan of the seasick percussion but it doesnít bother me either. And it definitely feels like this song doesnít have a climax to hit because it peaks too soon and has nowhere to go after that. Iíd say this is a song comprised mostly of elements I quite like with one element that Iím not a huge fan of. I donít think itís prevalent enough to be a big knock against the song though.

Final Thoughts:
The strings of that intro give this a real cinematic feel. Itís like the opening credits are scrolling right by every time I start listening to this. Basically, itís a great way to set a mood. Iím still not a huge fan of that synth, and the first time it happens I think the melody is botched too; the second phrase doesnít start with a lower note like it sounds like it should. Itís not a huge deal though, itís such a minor element in the song overall.

Iíll freely admit that I have a weakness for layered vocal harmonies like this, but, I mean, who doesnít? She sounds awesome here, and having so many different voices to listen to, so many layered melodies and rhythms, keeps things interesting. Trying to take everything in, being overwhelmed by it every time. Itís a lovely sound to get lost in.

I was probably a bit quick to comment about the song not being able to hit a climax, as while it sounds like there are less voices in the second louder moment of the song, the instrumentation swells a lot more to compensate. Perhaps itís more that the song feels like it just ends abruptly, the individual elements peeling back one at a time until thereís nothing left. Itís a very unsatisfying conclusion to what is otherwise a very big and bombastic track.

The instrumentation itself is generally a minor element here, but it does well to give SundfÝrís vocals room to breathe. The stilted percussion and soft synth harmonizing with the vocals, the harpsichord (?) that kicks in when the percussion drops out, creating an empty, somber feeling, all the twinkly layers of melodies accompanying the build at the end, a really gorgeous soundscape there. Itís all clearly not the focus but it all adds quite a lot.

While I do think the awkward ending does detract from this song a decent bit, the lack of a real final punch leaves it feeling weaker than it should, itís still a plenty enjoyable track on its own, and considering at this point Iíve enjoyed two different tracks from this artist and album, I probably should go ahead and check her out further.

7.75/10



#2: Train of Naught: Novembre Ė Umana (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqpQ2Vkr7dk)

First Impressions:
Gorgeous intro with some upbeat drums alongside it, thatís definitely my kind of thing. Not particularly sure the growls are warranted here but they donít bother me, just donít feel like they fit that well. Transition is a bit clunky but Iím glad that the song does have more to it. Do like how huge the back half sounds. I do like the sound of this in general, but I also feel like itís a little one-note; Iím not sure it will hold up well on relistens.

Final Thoughts:
Iím reading over my first impressions tidbit and wondering what song I was listening to there, honestly I have no clue what Iím talking about with a lot of that. The growls are perfectly warranted when they come in. The song isnít really that one-note at all. Dude, youíre stupid.

The atmosphere on this track is the main draw, itís a constant wall of noise with plenty of layers of guitars, drums that are relaxed but still plenty upbeat, just a lot of warm, pleasant sounds. The buildup from the middle to the heavy ending is really well-executed too, individual elements coming in one at a time and building up the tension until the song really explodes into full force.

I guess my comment about the song being a little one-note is probably in regards to the last minute and a half of the song, which admittedly does feel a little motionless, but itís not really that long, and itís a satisfying climax for the rest of the track, even if it maybe overstays its welcome a little.

In regards to the vocals, I quite like the cleans here, this is probably my favorite style of clean metal vocals in general. Not very harsh but not whiny either, just smooth as silk. The harsh vocals are fairly minimal but theyíre solid while theyíre around, they bleed into the heavier music of the track rather well too, they fit.

What this reminds me most of is Alcest, really, I canít say thereís any individual moments of this that really pop out at me but the song as a whole is pretty strong, no weaker moments and itís a nice journey from beginning to end. I always find it hard to compare atmospheric music against more song-oriented tracks, though, I feel I had this problem with both my original top 50 and my 2015 retrospective, where atmospheric albums were a lot harder to talk about and find the high points of than the more song-focused albums and they inevitably ended up ranking lower than the rest, with a few exceptions.

So Iím worried that in the long run Iím underrating this as-is, because I feel like this is probably the one song in the round Iíll want to come back to the most, but itís not quite my favorite to listen to, either. Iím stuck between two numeric scores for this but they donít really matter anyways so Iímma just give you the higher one.

8/10



Slipped and Fell

#12: twosuitsluke: Crowbar Ė All I Had (I Gave) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82orAnzFuE8)

First Impressions:
Ooh boy, the production on this isÖ special. Considering Iím not a huge fan of this style of vocals, I really wish they werenít so high in the mix compared to everything else. The bit that starts at 1:20 is pretty solid. Thereís some decent riffs and grooves here, but nothing particularly special, and the vocals are just a bit too offputting for me. I could see myself warming up to this a little on relistens, but I donít think Iíll be a huge fan either.

Final Thoughts:
Yeah, I just canít get past the production in this one, first and foremost. Itís really muddy, and the mix is just way too vocal-centric, which is a mistake considering the vocals are easily the weak point of this one. Itís like theyíre trying to do the same growly style that got big in the 2000ís, but without any power behind it, so the vocalist ends up just sounding really raspy and unpleasant. Whatever the heck heís doing at 1:55 especially is eeuugh.

The first half of this song or so is pretty generic and meh, the riffs arenít anything special, and the high energy feeling clashes with the rest of the song. The drumming here is pretty flat, the bass sounds like itís just doubling the guitars, and thereís vocals over nearly every second of the first half of the song. If the entire song had been like that, Iíd have hated this by the fifth listen.

The breakdown at 1:20 is pretty solid though, the bass starts doing its own thing and I love that kind of tom-heavy drumming. Itís not especially unique, but I donít mind it. The riff that makes up most of the last minute of the song, thoughÖ aww yeah, I can dig that. Really strong sludgy riff right there, heavy and with a good sense of groove. The drums play off the riff well too, and thankfully thereís no vocals in sight. Iíd probably get tired of that riff if it went on for too long, and Iíll admit a fadeout is always going to make me disappointed, but on the whole I like the last minute of this song quite a bit.

But on the wholeÖ I really would rather not listen to this, as a song. It gets progressively better as it goes on, sure, but only the last minute really appeals to me in a big way, and itís still far from the best riff Iíve ever heard. And when itís both this short, with about half the song being quite unpleasant, unfortunately that means that the bad outweighs the good here.

4.75/10



#11: splent: Jean Luc Ponty Ė King Kong (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg3e312Svcw)

First Impressions:
I feel like what you get out of TYS and what I get out of TYS are different things, considering you seemed to particularly like Suspicious Waveforms, my least favorite song on their debut. Pure jazz on its own like this is kind of intriguing, but usually ends up boring me. Theyíre all talented musicians, but the thing is, it doesnít really create music I find particularly compelling. I think this is basically the parallel to the Gary Clark Jr. song I got last roulette Ė sounds fine enough and I can appreciate it on a technical level, but Iím just not too into it, itís not something Iíd ever seek out to listen to.

Final Thoughts:
Thereís nothing about this I dislike, no second of this that I find unpleasant, no element I find out of place or awkward. It doesnít overstay itís welcome, and it doesnít stay stagnant throughout its entire run. If I judged good as an absence of negative qualities, Iím sure this would score really well.

But as a song I want to listen toÖ jazz always puts me in a weird place. As music, itís pretty dang great, and I wish I had half the talent of any of the guys in this band. But as a song? I justÖ get nothing out of this. It evokes no emotions. Itís a warm white noise that keeps my brain occupied thinking about the technicality of the musicianship, but nothing past that.

I guess, Iím just not the right kind of person to properly critique this kind of music, because I donít have much worth saying. The horns sound nice, the keys sound nice, the bass sounds nice, the drums sound nice. Itís all very nice. Aside from that repeating motif, though, thereís nothing about this I find memorable, nothing drawing me back into listening to it again. Itís justÖ not for me.

5.25/10



Standing at the Summit

#1: Tomislav95: Woods of Ypres Ė Lightning & Snow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQMvL-ZoZXU)

First Impressions:
Youíre lucky I never got around to checking these guys out after Train liked Ďem. Though this is certainly different than what I expected, I thought it was more like doom metal stuff but this is proggy as heck. And black metal-y too. The frantic drumming is the kind of thing I really love, just creates a great sense of manic energy and driving power. Weirdly, Iím not sure I care for the clean vocals here, but the harsh vocals are pretty solid. Thatís probably whatís bothering me the most about this.

Final Thoughts:
The drumming on this song especially is just something Iím really biased towards, always. Rhythmic and driving but frantic and manic. And thereís a cool groove going on during the verses, too. The guitars play off the drum groove well on the verses, too, maybe my favorite bits of the song honestly, just really enjoyable to listen to. Just, no complaints about the rhythm section here, for sure.

I havenít really warmed up to the clean vocals, though. A bit too bassy and weak. And I dunno, something about the harmonies, just doesnít sit well with me. Probably the only aspect of this that I donít like at all, really. The harsh vocals though, theyíre pretty good. A rare instance of actually being able to understand the lyrics, for one, but they have a nice amount of power to them.

Oh, actually, Iím gonna complain about the guitar solo too, while I have the chance. Itís completely pointless, honestly. Just a basic tapping pattern that sounds okay but isnít particularly interesting. If it was trying to add to a frantic mood, maybe itíd make more sense, but no, the rest of the instrumentation is too restrained for that to be the intention.

But then, yeah, everything else works. The ascending triplet motif of the intro that comes with frantic drums and returns twice later, thatís a good thing to reuse, certainly. The classy groove of the verses, always a big fan, reminds me of Enslaved in a good way. The more atmospheric chorus (or prechorus? dunno) that has a strong driving feel to it. And the intense bridge following the guitar solo, just a really strong moment, probably the only point of the song the clean vocals work well for me. Oh and the blastbeat-driven outro is a pretty dang intense way to close off a song, too.

Really, the minor gripes I have with this are far too meager to matter against all the stuff I do like here. Itís not a perfect song, but itís definitely one Iíve enjoyed on every listen and one that makes me interested in checking out this band further (though Iíd already intended to anyways, just never actually got around to it, so!) Good stuff, man, keep it up.

8/10



twosuitsluke and splent are unfortunately eliminated, the rest of you can go ahead and send me round 2.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on July 31, 2016, 05:57:47 PM
Well I love Tim's voice but I get your point, I guess listening to him on No-Man biased me  :lol

Also it has SW vibes because 1) it's a reworked demo Stevie and Tim wrote in the 90s, and 2) Wilson colaborated a bit on that track.
 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: LordCost on July 31, 2016, 06:38:21 PM
OMG! I survived this round! :hefdaddy
Yes it's a generic metal song, but I like a lot every part of it (intro, chorus, symphonic break on its own and the way it leads to the final chorus). I'm still discovering the old albums, maybe now I would choose a different song (this week I've listened to Twilight In Olympus).
Tomorrow I will send a song. It's 2:37 AM in Italy, I waited to see the results before going to bed, thanks :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on July 31, 2016, 06:54:23 PM
okay yeah if tim bowness has actually worked with SW before like that much then yes, that makes sense lol

and sorry for keeping you up LC omg  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on July 31, 2016, 07:03:07 PM
I think Stevie provides some background vocals on the song as well :P

Sent harsh noise.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 31, 2016, 08:02:41 PM
Awesome, didn't expect that after all the teasers to be honest. They remind me a bit of Alcest aswell but I have no idea why, apart from some of the instrumental elements they don't really sound alike. But if you liked the atmospheric elements more I'd start out with their best album, "Materia". The newly released one is really good too though, the one this song is on.

I'll send something today
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on July 31, 2016, 08:03:48 PM
Sent my second and likely final song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on July 31, 2016, 08:10:54 PM
Parama, I definitely understand your feeling that Bruce overpowers the music, even if I don't agree with it myself. Bruce is just such a powerful singer that it's tough to put him on a ballad-type song without there being a sense of contrast there. I feel that on this song it works, but I get not thinking that.

You are correct in your guess that this is the ballad at the end of a heavy album. The album it's on, Accident of Birth, isn't crushingly heavy or anything, but it's probably a bit heavier than Iron Maiden on a normal day and Arc of Space is definitely the calmer denouement. It's a pretty cool album, worth checking out if you're interested in straight-ahead heavy metal. I wouldn't call it the best of the genre, but it's pretty good, with some seriously good songs.

In any case, I survived the first cut, so I'll take that in itself as a badge of honor. I'll figure out something else to send within the next 24 hours.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on July 31, 2016, 08:25:01 PM
Arc of Space is awesome and almost as good as Umana

sent my second and final song, it has been a good run guys, cya
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on July 31, 2016, 10:23:31 PM
What the hell? How come I'm still in? Parama is apparently getting soft or something.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on July 31, 2016, 10:30:23 PM
i just really wanted to hear that 80's power metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 01, 2016, 01:22:58 AM
Wow I really didn't expect to be first.
Don't know what to send in 2nd round but I'll probably send something different than this round, something poppy or electronic.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 01, 2016, 01:26:11 AM
whatever you send me, make sure it's good
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 01, 2016, 01:30:28 AM
I never really figured out your tastes but I'll try :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 01, 2016, 03:44:59 AM
Just checked out that Woods song parama, and it's the album that's on my list to check out even though the song Tomislav sent me wasn't off this same album. It's definitely a different sound from them, not nearly as doomy, but I quite like this one too. Seems like I'll like this band a lot.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 01, 2016, 04:06:26 AM
Let me run trough their discography for you:
first EP - folk/black metal, in style similar to American BM but actually really unique (at least from what I've heard of USBM)
first album - more doom and folky, cleaner than EP
second album (Woods 3) - similar to Woods 2, just less folky, but really mix of all their styles
third album (Woods 4) - the doom-est album
fourth (Woods 5) - I'd say cleanest album in terms of production and also the one that's the least black-metal of all their albums, the most experimental and diverse

Usually, I like singers with higher pitched vocals more but David's bassy cleans are really cool, his voice is one of the things that got me into Woods of Ypres.

EDIT: this is f'ing bullshit I wanted to send round 2 song but every song on album is so good I don't know which to send :/
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Tyrias on August 01, 2016, 08:10:54 AM
Nice :) any opinions on spoken world samples in music? Ok if used well or do you just flat out hate them?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 01, 2016, 08:36:45 AM
i generally don't like them but there are exceptions
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 01, 2016, 09:41:21 AM
Well I did about as well I expected to do so there's that. You also liked something about the song. I knew the vocals were kind of the deal breaker but that's one of the things I like most about Crowbar. Kirk's voice is...........different.

It may have a slightly dated sound but it's nearly 25 years old (I think). Blame the production on Phil Anselmo, not sure if this was off the first record he produced but it's gotta be one of the first.

I also have a bit of nostalgia linked to this band as they are one of my older brothers favourites (and he shaped a lot of my musical taste). He played Crowbars' debut a LOT.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: LordCost on August 01, 2016, 11:40:07 AM
I sent harsh noise for the next round, but I voted "I am".
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 01, 2016, 11:48:31 AM
Sent something really bad, you'll like it.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: splent on August 01, 2016, 12:11:15 PM
I really expected to be last. So that's something. Have fun y'all
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 02, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
Thanks for the lengthy write ups!

i generally don't like them but there are exceptions

I hope the song I sent is an exception  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 02, 2016, 11:28:09 AM
I so didn't expect to get through that I don't have a song ready. Thought of sending new Fates Warning and just found out they're banned. :lol

Edit: and sent a song from a power metal band. Bye everyone. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 02, 2016, 02:18:24 PM
believe I have 8 songs now and I've listened to five, so the last two should gimme their songs asap  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Tyrias on August 02, 2016, 05:51:52 PM
Sry, will send in the morning after I wake up (which is all too soon).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 02, 2016, 10:04:53 PM
Sent something a bit outside of what people would expect, both for a Parama roulette and for the artist in question, that I've always kind of wanted to send in a DTF roulette.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 01:14:06 AM
why are you two both still the judges anyways  :corn

9/10 songs, just need green judge's song so i can judge it... greenly
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Tyrias on August 03, 2016, 02:28:25 AM
Sent a mix between dubstep, drum and base, ambient and pop. with some motivational spoken vocals thrown in.

Yeah, life on the edge.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 03, 2016, 04:44:51 AM
I sent prog, I'm such a risktaker
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
Round 2 First Impressions

Youíve definitely hit upon a sweet spot with heavy, atmospheric music here though, even if there is one glaring flaw.

I like the pounding drums going on here quite a lot, gives the song a big, bombastic feel, and the driving bassline definitely adds to that mood.

This is actually kind of interesting though, itís a very downbeat, plodding song that still has a nice level of intensity going on.

I quite dig that atmospheric, chaotic bit a bit past the middle of the song, quite intense but also beautiful, in a way.

Itís well-textured and rather pleasant to listen to but not something that hits me too hard on first listen, though I can see it growing on me.

I think whatís sticking out most here is how good the mix isÖ all the instruments are quite audible and it all comes together well.

Thereís a good amount of diversity here and although none of it is really that fresh I can certainly enjoy it for what it is, even if Iím not a huge fan yet.

I honestly canít tell if this is super pretentious or itís just that I donít ďgetĒ it but I certainly canít deny that itís unique.

Already this feels like it has a lot more personality and originality to it than the genreís standard.

I liked this more than I expected to, though I donít like it as much as your first round submission, either.

Overall: I already have a strong feeling of who 10th place in this round is going to be, but that tempting 9th place slot is still up for grabs. This round definitely feels more diverse and probably more interesting for it, though. The highs are likely going to be higher, the lows probably lower. Fun times all around.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 09:38:09 AM
Round 2 Hangman!!!

???: __ ____ ___ Ė __
???: _________ Ė ____
???: _____ Ė ______
???: ______ Ė ______ __ ___ ___
???: __________ _______ ______ Ė ___ ______-______ _________ __ ________ _____ ___ __________
???: ________ __ ____ Ė ______ _____ ________
???: ______ _______ Ė __ ______ ___ _ ____ __ ____ ___ _ _________
???: ____ Ė ___ __ __
???: ___ __ ____ Ė ________
???: ___ Ė _____ __ ___ _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 03, 2016, 09:39:11 AM
Since this is the parama roulette I guess I have to do this:

1. no
2. possibly
3. maybe but i doubt it
4. no
5. dont think so
6. maybe
7. nah
8. no
9. maybe
10. guessing this one

not super confident

give me the D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 03, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
1. no
2. no
3. maybe
4. no
5. if I had to choose one, yes
6. I can't say no
7. no
8. no
9. I don't think so 
10. maybe
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: LordCost on August 03, 2016, 10:18:00 AM
1. no
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
6. no
7. no
8. yes
9. no
10. no

"I already have a strong feeling of who 10th place in this round is going to be", "The lows probably lower". Ok, bye to everyone :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 1 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 03, 2016, 10:51:35 AM
why are you two both still the judges anyways  :corn

It's either:

a) Because keeping the judge label reminds everyone that I was once in the privileged position of deciding once and for all whether their songs are good or bad, or

b) Because I keep forgetting to change my avatar and don't know what even to change it to.

Anyway, I think #3 might be mine if you actually like it. Or #9.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 03, 2016, 11:00:57 AM
Quote
I honestly canít tell if this is super pretentious or itís just that I donít ďgetĒ it but I certainly canít deny that itís unique.

Already this feels like it has a lot more personality and originality to it than the genreís standard.

One of these two is probably mine. Most likely the first one. Ah yes, give me my #10 spot.

Edit: and damn, someone sent a song with a longer title than my song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tyrias on August 03, 2016, 12:59:22 PM
I'd say mine is probably #4, #9 or #10. Coulf be a few of the others as well, though. I'm really curious for the write-up. Also, try listening to my song loud and in complete darkness at least once, that's the scenario wherr it truly shines.

And I'm just too lazy to change my avatar, no other reason honestly.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 03, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
???: __________ _______ ______ Ė ______ ______ ________ __ ________ _____ ___ __________

Seriously though, where the fuck have you (whoever you are) found such a long band name and such a long song title? I was sure my song title would be the longest.

Let's see, how about this?

Watermelon Squishy Nature - Better Choose Cucumber or Potatoes While It's Acceptable
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 01:30:18 PM
It's not half as bad as the one sufjan song 425 sent last roulette

good thing we weren't doing hangmanen back then  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 03, 2016, 01:34:06 PM
JUST GIVE ME THE D ALREADY JEEZ
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 02:02:47 PM
dude I'm on a phone and the song titles this time suck and I don't have my roulette doc anyways I'll do it in like 5 hours from now lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 03, 2016, 02:31:22 PM
damn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 06:34:56 PM
Train waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
D

???: __ __d_ __d Ė __
???: ___d_____ Ė ____
???: D__d_ Ė ______
???: ___d__ Ė ______ __ ___ ___
???: __________ _______ ______ Ė ___ D_____-___d_d _d_______ __ ________ _____ ___ D_________
???: ____d___ __ ____ Ė _____d _____ ________
???: ______ _______ Ė __ D_____ ___ _ D___ __ ____ ___ _ _________
???: ____ Ė ___ __ __
???: D__ __ ____ Ė ________
???: D__ Ė _____ __ ___ _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 03, 2016, 06:40:40 PM
dredg weren't banned? :facepalm:

dredg - Sanzen?

And I guess the bottom one could be Dio but I doubt it :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 03, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
dredg weren't banned? :facepalm:

dredg - Sanzen?

And I guess the bottom one could be Dio but I doubt it :lol
Actually, it could be Stand Up And Shout :lol

Parama, I choose T.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 07:03:50 PM
Tomislav95 waits 3.
Train waits 2.

Letters guessed so far:
DT

???: __ __d_ __d Ė __
???: ___d_____ Ė ____
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: ___d__ Ė ______ __ ___ ___
???: ______t___ _______ ______ Ė T__ D_____-___d_d _d_______ __ ______t_ _____ T__ D_________
???: ____d___ __ ____ Ė _____d ____t _______t
???: ____t_ ___t___ Ė __ D_____ __t _ D___ __ ____ ___ _ ____t____
???: ____ Ė __t __ __
???: D__ __ ____ Ė ________
???: Dio Ė _____ __ t__ ____t

(someone guess F)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 03, 2016, 07:07:02 PM
Then it is Shame on the Night.
Dir En Grey - Vinushka?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 07:07:56 PM
you are not incorrect
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 03, 2016, 07:59:30 PM
It's not half as bad as the one sufjan song 425 sent last roulette

good thing we weren't doing hangmanen back then  :corn

Oh, you mean The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, "I Have Fought the Big Knives, and Will Continue to Fight Them Until They Are Off Our Lands"?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 08:11:52 PM
i'm a particular fan of And by Our Own Hand Did Every Last Bird Lie Silent in Their Puddles, The Air Barren of Song as the Clouds Drifted Away. For Killing Their Greatest Enemy, The Locusts Noisily Thanked Us and Turned Their Jaws Toward Our Crops, Swallowing Our Greed Whole
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 03, 2016, 09:44:36 PM
E
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 09:58:48 PM
Bolsters waits 3.
Tomislav95 waits 2.
Train waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTE

???: _e __de __d Ė __
???: ___d_____ Ė ____
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: __ed__ Ė _e____ __ ___ __e
???: __ee__t__e _______ ___e__ Ė T_e D___e_-_e_ded _d_e_____ __ ______t_ __e__ T_e D_________
???: ____d_e_ __ ____ Ė _e___d ____t _______t
???: ____t_ ___t___ Ė __ D_e___ __t _ D___ __ __e_ ___ _ ____t___e
???: ____ Ė _et _e __
???: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night

i am exceptionally disappointed
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 03, 2016, 10:17:46 PM
The artist on that long one is Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, but I don't know any of their songs.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 10:28:02 PM
it probably wouldn't be too hard to find if you googled, but yes correct  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 03, 2016, 10:40:35 PM
That would be cheating.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 03, 2016, 11:01:53 PM
oh crap you got a new avi, now i gotta step up my game

uuhh umm

edit: okay new minigame, find the source of my current avatar  :tup
i was able to find it on a google image search but it's not quite the original source where i found it  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 04, 2016, 01:51:13 AM
I like your new avatar more than the old one :tup
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 04, 2016, 02:21:27 AM
W
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 08:40:36 AM
Evermind waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
Tomislav95 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEW

???: We __de __d Ė __
???: ___d_____ Ė ____
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: __ed__ Ė _e____ __ ___ __e
???: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė T_e D___e_-_e_ded _d_e_____ __ ______t_ __e__ T_e D_________
???: ____d_e_ __ ____ Ė _e___d ____t _______t
???: ____t_ ___t___ Ė __ D_e___ __t _ D___ __ __e_ ___ _ ____t___e
???: ____ Ė _et _e __
???: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night

congrats, you got one letter
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 04, 2016, 08:49:01 AM
We Mad God - 2

give me P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 09:00:50 AM
Train of Naught waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWP

???: We Made God Ė __
???: ___d___pp Ė ____
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: __ed__ Ė _e____ __ ___ __e
???: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė T_e D___e_-_e_ded _d_e_____ __ ______t_ _pe__ T_e D_________
???: ____d_e_ __ ____ Ė _e___d ____t _______t
???: ____t_ ___t___ Ė __ D_e___ __t _ D__p __ __e_ ___ _ ____t___e
???: ____ Ė _et _e __
???: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night

i'm not gonna give you that first one bcuz it's wrong
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 04, 2016, 09:33:16 AM
Okay then

Someone guess I trust me, one of the titles only consists of I's

Train of Naught
Evermind waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.
What's this supposed to mean
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 09:35:37 AM
something abysmal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 04, 2016, 10:17:58 AM
I swear I know the band in the second entry, but it eludes me. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 04, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Can you give me some M?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 04, 2016, 12:38:47 PM
I swear I know the band in the second entry, but it eludes me. :facepalm:
Goldfrapp, sent by tomislav95 :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 12:42:56 PM
this is a correct guess x2
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 04, 2016, 12:45:49 PM
Different song this time :tup
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 04, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
Also the SGM song is The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion. Probably sent by Scorpion.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 12:54:04 PM
yes, no
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 04, 2016, 12:55:47 PM
LordCost?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
you solved the puzzle

I'll update all this stuff again after work ok
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 04, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
I summon Luoto here to guess my song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 04, 2016, 06:07:32 PM
Oh, I should have said it before, it was probably Scorpion who sent Vinushka.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 06:49:36 PM
Tomislav95 waits 3.
Train of Naught waits 2.
Evermind waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPM

???: We Made God Ė __
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė ____
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: __ed__ Ė _em___ __ ___ __e
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
???: ____d_e_ __ ____ Ė _e___d ____t _______t
???: ____t_ ___t___ Ė M_ D_e_m_ __t _ D__p __ __e_ ___ _ ____tm__e
???: ___m Ė _et Me __
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 04, 2016, 07:45:22 PM
G
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 07:54:41 PM
Sacul waits 3.
Tomislav95 waits 2.
Train of Naught waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPMG

???: We Made God Ė __
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė ____
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: __ed__ Ė _em___ __ ___ __e
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
???: ____d_e_ __ ____ Ė _e___d __g_t _______t
???: ____t_ ___t___ Ė M_ D_e_m_ __t _ D__p __ __e_ ___ _ __g_tm__e
???: ___m Ė _et Me G_
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 04, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
I

















am going to choose C  :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
Bolsters waits 3.
Sacul waits 2.
Tomislav95 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPMGC

???: We Made God Ė __
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė C___
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: __ed__ Ė _em___ __ ___ __e
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
???: C___d_e_ __ ____ Ė _ec__d __g_t ___c___t
???: ____t_ __ct_c_ Ė M_ D_e_m_ __t _ D__p __ __e_ ___ _ __g_tm__e
???: ___m Ė _et Me G_
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night

i'm a bad person who just spent like an hour or two listening to songs not sent to me in my roulette because i'm planning another album purchase because i still don't have the new TYS and that's a crime

i will get a listen in tonight and then i have to send train a song or he'll get mad at me or something
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 04, 2016, 11:00:52 PM
The Goldfrapp song is Clay.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 04, 2016, 11:04:57 PM
I
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 04, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Sonata Arctica - My Dream's But A Drop of Fuel For A Nightmare
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 11:29:37 PM
Evermind waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPMGCI

???: We Made God Ė II
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė Clay
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: __edi_ Ė _em_i_ __ ___ __e
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
???: C_i_d_e_ __ ____ Ė _ec__d _ig_t ___c___t
???: Sonata Arctica - My Dream's But A Drop of Fuel For A Nightmare
???: __im Ė _et Me G_
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 04, 2016, 11:44:43 PM
Haim - Let Me Go

Third from the bottom.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 04, 2016, 11:45:21 PM
indeed it is a truth
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 05, 2016, 12:02:56 AM
Azedia - no idea about the song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 05, 2016, 12:07:28 AM
Is #6 Children of Bodom with a letter missing?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 05, 2016, 12:07:50 AM
ev yes
bolsters no
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 05, 2016, 09:57:22 PM
nobody guessed a letter tho, so we're stuck in L I M B O
i'll start doing writeups tomorrow, may or may not finish but i'll def try to
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 05, 2016, 11:04:40 PM
F
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 05, 2016, 11:06:48 PM
425 waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPMGCIF

???: We Made God Ė II
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė Clay
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: Azedia Ė _em_i_ __ ___ __e
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
???: C_i_d_e_ _f ____ Ė _ec__d _ig_t ___c___t
???: Sonata Arctica - My Dream's But A Drop of Fuel For A Nightmare
???: Haim - Let Me Go
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 06, 2016, 07:41:07 PM
So I got a total of one letter? :lol

Well, at least that pretty much confirms Children of ____ is one of the bands.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 06, 2016, 11:19:32 PM
results probably won't happen tonight.

my round 4 rankings are turning out to be total gibberish, I'm 100% sure on one person who's getting the boot, but I'm less certain on the other person. it's down to two songs that are both fairly meh for me, but then everything else is at least solid and generally I'd say this round is superior to last round. but yeah, tomorrow. i have half the writeups done, but i've been basically doing nothing but listening to music all day and just need a break  :lol

side-note: i did check out the woods of ypres and novembre albums. not really sure I'm a fan of woods of ypres yet, mostly just cannot get into the bassy vocals. novembre was pretty solid but I'd probably need to listen deeper to really find out if I'm in to them on the whole

i've also been checking out some stuff from my first roulette, because why not. already placed an order for the dear hunter act 4, and unexpect, shining, and vangough albums i'm probably all gonna get too (though with unexpect not the one i received a song off of because it's literally impssible to find) so that should be fun to torture myself with

for some reason i'm really digging weird/chaotic prog metal stuff rn tho. just an fyi  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 07, 2016, 01:12:48 AM
Cool coolcool, I'm probably eliminatedafter this round but if not i will send weird/chaotic prog metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 07, 2016, 01:45:26 AM
Shining are great, been digging their two most recent albums a lot over the last few months. Been trying to get my mate, who's a huge NIN fan into them as their most recent has a real NIN vibe IMO. Just with a side order of crazy sax!
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 01:47:57 AM
i also finally determined that i actually kinda like sigh but they fit into what i'm looking for right now apparently, which they did not before

gorguts is unlistenable tho, and i wish i liked cynic more so i could get over how short all their albums are

also ephel duath is like, the best thing???
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2016, 02:46:29 AM
Dammit, there goes my planned Sigh submission.

Also I'm going to guess A.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: LordCost on August 07, 2016, 03:22:32 AM

i've also been checking out some stuff from my first roulette, because why not. already placed an order for the dear hunter act 4, and unexpect, shining, and vangough albums i'm probably all gonna get too (though with unexpect not the one i received a song off of because it's literally impssible to find) so that should be fun to torture myself with

for some reason i'm really digging weird/chaotic prog metal stuff rn tho. just an fyi  :corn

So I think you have placed an order for the album "In A Flesh Aquarium" by Unexpect. It's even weirder than the last one, I still only know the first half of the album because I'm lazy, but there are enough things going on in the first 5-6 songs. I prefer Fables Of The Sleepless Empire (which I have in physical copy at home, I ordered it two years ago via bandcamp), but there are great songs even in In A Flesh Aquarium. The albums before are more metal and less experimental but I never heard it, I hope you purchased In A Flesh Aquarium.
For Vangough, I only know the last album "Between The Madness", I wasn't much impressed by the previous two, I still have to hear them.

The last sentence gives me a bit of hope I'm safe this round, but I still doubt it. :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 09:17:19 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
425 waits 2.
Evermind waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPMGCIFA

???: We Made God Ė II
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė Clay
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: Azedia Ė _emai_ A_ ___ A_e
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
???: C_i_d_e_ _f ___a Ė _ec__d _ig_t __ac___t
???: Sonata Arctica - My Dream's But A Drop of Fuel For A Nightmare
???: Haim - Let Me Go
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night

@LordCost i haven't placed an order quite yet, since i buy in bulk from importcds to save on shipping, but i'm pretty set on getting that one, yeah
if fables existed as a physical copy in the year 2016 i might have checked it out too but i just cannot find evidence that i could still get it :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 07, 2016, 09:28:25 AM
Just end my misery

Azedia - Remain As You Are? don't know if that's a song of theirs but it fits and looks like it.

And give me that S, gonna try to guess my own song now
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 07, 2016, 09:35:38 AM
if fables existed as a physical copy in the year 2016 i might have checked it out too but i just cannot find evidence that i could still get it :P

Maybe not as new but I got a second hand copy on Amazon that was as good as new   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 07, 2016, 09:38:11 AM
if fables existed as a physical copy in the year 2016 i might have checked it out too but i just cannot find evidence that i could still get it :P

Maybe not as new but I got a second hand copy on Amazon that was as good as new   :biggrin:

Actually, ignore me. I'm talking about a completely different album  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 09:53:10 AM
Train of Naught waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.
425 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPMGCIFAS

???: We Made God Ė II
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė Clay
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
???: Azedia Ė Remain As You Are
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
Train of Naught: C_i_d_e_ _f ___a Ė Sec__d Sig_t __ac___t
???: Sonata Arctica - My Dream's But A Drop of Fuel For A Nightmare
???: Haim - Let Me Go
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night

nobody is doing enough guessing who sent what, but Train guessed his own
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 07, 2016, 09:54:18 AM
Evermind = Sonata
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: LordCost on August 07, 2016, 10:03:17 AM
Evermind = Sonata
I forgot to say it, it's Evermind for me too
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2016, 10:10:37 AM
I'm guessing that home sent dredg?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: LordCost on August 07, 2016, 10:10:56 AM
http://unexpect.ifmerch.com/en/products/unexpect-cd-fables-of-the-sleepless-empire

I ordered it from here, is it not possible to purchase? I added it to the shopping card now.

(I don't know why I cannot send personal messages now..)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 07, 2016, 10:12:22 AM
Azedia is Tyrias has no one guessed this yet?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 10:16:51 AM
Train of Naught waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.
425 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DTEWPMGCIFAS

???: We Made God Ė II
Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė Clay
???: dredg Ė Sanzen
Tyrias: Azedia Ė Remain As You Are
LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
Train of Naught: C_i_d_e_ _f ___a Ė Sec__d Sig_t __ac___t
Evermind: Sonata Arctica - My Dream's But A Drop of Fuel For A Nightmare
???: Haim - Let Me Go
Scorpion: Dir En Grey - Vinushka
???: Dio Ė Shame on the Night

@LC ahh, thanks for that. $15 USD or so with the shipping cost which is maybe a bit more than I'd want to pay but I'll check out the album at some point, especially if I find myself really into the one I'm gonna get, but I'm pretty well committed to getting in a flesh aquarium at this point/too lazy to check out the other one really  :lol

also, 6/10 writeups done, get :soon: ed
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 07, 2016, 10:20:16 AM
Indeed SA is mine. Was choosing between the one I sent; The Worlds Forgotten, The Words Forbidden; The Harvest or Fly With the Black Swan. Basically I picked the oddest songs on Unia and then had to narrow it down to one. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 07, 2016, 10:22:56 AM
I admit I googled it but hey, the writeups are coming soon and all.

Children of Nova - Second Sight Blackout
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 07, 2016, 10:25:12 AM
That reminded me, I like Sonata's debut, used to listen to it in my early metal days and rediscovered it this year. I know they changed since but is there any album you think I'd like?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 07, 2016, 10:31:21 AM
Well their first four albums are all in the same vein, so if you liked Ecliptica, odds are you'll like Silence, Winterheart's Guild and Reckoning Night too. Out of these four, Ecliptica is easily my favourite and Reckoning Night is my second favourite, so if you want some good old power metal, go with Reckoning Night.

Unia (the album from which I've chosen a song for Parama) is definitely the weirdest they've ever recorded, and it's tough to get into, but when you do, it's really rewarding because most of the songs there are complex and brilliant. Took me like six or seven years to get into this one, to be honest.

I would also recommend considering to check out The Days of Grays, which is a follow-up to Unia. It's the darkest Sonata Arctica album, and while a lot of people seem to kind of disregard it and say it's not that good, I think it's up there with their best - but that could be just because I like some sad and dark music (though it's obviously not that dark, it's only dark by SA standards).

So, if you want pure power metal, the best choice is Reckoning Night or Silence, if you want weirdness, go with Unia, if you want something darker, go with The Days of Grays. I can recommend you some tracks to check out (1-3 from each album) in PM if you're interested.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2016, 10:31:22 AM
Anything up to Reckoning Night would a safe bet if you like their debut, it's pretty much in the same vein. Unia is my favourite of their albums, but it's a lot more experimental and not everyone's cup of tea. After that, things went downhill - I like about half of the songs on TDoG, SGHN and Pariah's Child, but there is a lot of stuff on those albums that I haven't listened to in ages.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 07, 2016, 10:32:27 AM
Now that was a ninja-post if I ever saw one. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 10:36:30 AM
scores i am really gravitating to in these writeups: 7.25

fortunately i don't have to worry excessively much about the order i want to put these three songs in because they're all safe anyways but i'm gonna try
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 07, 2016, 10:44:21 AM
I checked tracklists on rateyourmusic, it seems I know few songs off Silence and other three. Now I want to hear Unia, if it's more experimental.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 07, 2016, 10:45:22 AM
I checked tracklists on rateyourmusic, it seems I know few songs off Silence and other three. Now I want to hear Unia, if it's more experimental.

It's way, way more experimental. Just don't give up on this album after your first listen, if you can.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 07, 2016, 01:54:00 PM
 :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 02:01:27 PM
yes, your 5/10 is coming shortly, i'm just relistening to #8 and #9 again to be sure but all the writeups are done
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 07, 2016, 02:07:16 PM
Cool, that's better than I expected.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 07, 2016, 02:08:11 PM
I'm just hoping to end higher than #13
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 02:08:40 PM
Digging for Gold

#8: 425: Dio Ė Shame On the Night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaGug8sSpg)

First Impressions:
I will say first and foremost that straightforward heavy metal is uuuusually not my thing, but, we shall see. This is actually kind of interesting though, itís a very downbeat, plodding song that still has a nice level of intensity going on. I guess my only worry is that Iím not sure how much this justifies being 5 minutes, I feel like I might get a little sick of it on relistens as it doesnít come off as a particularly diverse song? But I do enjoy it on first listen.

Final Thoughts:
As I predicted, this is probably the song I got the least out of on relistens. Once youíve heard this once, thereís nothing to really surprise you anymore. Thatís absolutely wonderful if youíre trying to appeal to the casual listener or have a radio smash hit Ė instant gratification thatís just repetitive enough to be catchy but not so repetitive as to get annoying. There is absolutely a place for music like this.

Dio is a great singer, thereís basically no denying that. Unlike Bruce Dickinson last round, he has the music behind him to back up his pipes, too. His vocals are clearly the focus of a lot of the song, and for a good reason. He throws his all into every line, just injects power into every word. I can appreciate that, even if his style of vocals isnít really my cup of tea, itís still enjoyable enough to listen to.

But once I get tired of the vocals after hearing this for the fourth or fifth time, the songís appeal really drops for me. Thereís really not a lot to this song. Aside from the quiet intro that gets reprised later, itís verses and choruses all the way home, with an extended outro fadeout. And itís all very similar plodding, heavy riffs that are kind of cool but then get so hammered into your head that they start to lose their power after a while. I do appreciate the thick bass on the verses, and the choir vocals on the outro make for a satisfying climax. But as a whole I just get sick of it quickly.

I did specifically warn about this in my tastes post; ďStraightforward hard rock is probably going to bore me.Ē And, yeah, thatís ultimately what it came down to here. I canít say this is a bad song, and if I only heard it like once or twice a month for a few months and then never again, Iíd probably remember it fondly, but listening to it every day for the better part of a week, Iím definitely tired of listening to it and wouldnít want to return to it.

5.5/10



#7: Train of Naught: Children of Nova Ė Second Sight Blackout (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdec1Cg4a80)

First Impressions:
A vaguely psychedelic feel to the beginning of this song, probably mostly due to that wah-soaked guitar in the back. And then the song takes a completely different feel when the chorus kicks in apparently, sure. Nice and high energy here, all the instruments are definitely contributing to that. I think whatís sticking out most here is how good the mix isÖ all the instruments are quite audible and it all comes together well. Pretty intense, manic ending to this one too.

Final Thoughts:
Itís just strange that they spent almost the first two minutes playing one song and then cut to a completely different, basically unrelated song. And I mean, I enjoy both halves separately, but they just donít go together, the transition doesnít work. At least for me. Ehh. Itís a small complaint, comparatively, since I can only be bothered by it for about three seconds.

So. The first half is this downbeat, psychedelic type of song. I like it. Thereís nice atmosphere to the layers of guitars, itís very chill stuff. The drums and bass are doing neat, kind of subtle stuff to keep things musically interesting, and the vocals sound fine enough. Iím not sure Iím a huge fan of this vocalist on the basis of this one song, but, solid.

The back half is a high-energy post-hardcore song with a strong emphasis on melodic guitar lines. Well, especially one of them that gets repeated maybe a bit too much, but itís kind of cool. Definitely feels like they overused it though. The drums here are pretty basic aside from that jagged fill that plays at the end of every phrase, which, again, is pretty cool the first few times you hear it, but once youíve heard it a dozen times in the same song it might get a bit played out.

The two bits of the song that really stick out are the calmer bridge at around 3:30, returning to the psychedelic vibe of earlier in the song and doing it pretty nicely, itís a nice breather moment that also is probably the only thing tying the first half and second half together in any real way. And the ending, thatís pretty cool stuff. Blastbeat drumming as the song reaches its close and a fast, frantic guitar line to close things out.

Everything elseÖ well, thereís some solid vocal moments but I never really find them that memorable, just, solid. I could find the chorus powerful and epic, but I only kind of feel that way about it. It doesnít have as much power as it feels like it should have, and I canít say why. Thereís an intensity to the music and to the vocals and a harmonization going on there, yet it just never clicks into place. I think it may just be the singer. I donít think he quite sells it, his voice just doesnít work for me with the more intense stuff.

Honestly Iím still trying to evaluate how I feel about this song, because I like it, but itís not anything particularly fresh and it isnít even especially well-executed, justÖ solid.  Again pingponging between two scores here so again Iím just going to give you the higher one, I keep doing this for your songs for some reason.

7/10



#6: Bolsters: HAIM Ė Let Me Go (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCPtwjozZcc)

First Impressions:
Right away this strikes me as much more of a ďBolstersĒ song than the last one you sent, whatever that means. The vocal timbre of this comes off to me as ďangsty teenager who just started singing but wants to sound really matureĒ. I like the pounding drums going on here quite a lot, gives the song a big, bombastic feel, and the driving bassline definitely adds to that mood. Oh, it ended. I guess it still felt like this was building to something, but no, it wasnít. Alright then.

Final Thoughts:
I dunno what I was talking about with the vocals. They just sound very indie-rock-ish. And I canít tell if the singer is a guy or girl, but I also donít really care particularly much. They sound fine enough. The harmonizations sound pretty good and make the vocals sound a lot bigger than they otherwise would, at the very least. The vocals are pretty clearly the focus of this song too, lots of jagged rhythms and quirky melodies on the verses and big harmonizations and layers on the chorus.

The music behind the vocals does a good job of building up, too. Thereís fairly minimal instrumentation behind the first verse and chorus, and then the thumping bass and drums kick in for the second verse, escalating for the chorus as the guitar comes in. The guitar work is pretty simple here but also really effective. That repeating motif feels like something straight out of a 70ís rock song, or at least thatís the vibe Iím getting, but yeah, I dig it.

The vocals do kind of drop out a bit when the guitar takes center stage, but that may be for the best, Iím not sure where else they couldíve gone at that point, they canít really effectively wrestle with the booming instrumentation or the swagger of the guitars. The song does reach a solid climax by the time it ends, but it really does feel like it was still building to something. I wouldnít have minded a huge closing chorus with even more layers of vocals and crunchier guitars, some real power to close off the track that ties everything together. But, no, it justÖ ends.

And I really dislike that synth thing that happens right at the end, itís just kind of irritating. But it only lasts like a second so I canít get too bothered. Ehh. Nitpicking.

I wouldnít say this is the best-structured song, and it doesnít quite feel like it lives up to its potential, but it definitely grew on me the more I listened to it; the vocals during the verses especially, thereís just a smoothness to the vocal melody there that I quite like. But no, itís definitely a solid song, I can definitely dig it. Not outstanding for what it is but itís more engaging than a lot of indie rock tends to be.

7.25/10



#5: Sacul: dredg Ė Sanzen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDTGCHeHZFI)

First Impressions:
DTF really wants to get me to like dredg. I was sent them in my first roulette, almost twice actually, and now here they are here again. The verses are pretty nice and upbeat, between the strummy guitar and fast-paced hihats. And thereís a nice amount of power to the chorus, a nice wall of guitar noise. Weird jagged proggy type break, okay. I quite dig that atmospheric, chaotic bit a bit past the middle of the song, quite intense but also beautiful, in a way. And thenÖ hard cut to some jazzy thing, sure why not. Thereís like a whole lot of ďstuff happensĒ in the middle of this song, it seems.

Final Thoughts:
Honestly I donít even remember what the dredg song I was sent in the first round sounds like. It definitely wasnít half as good as this song, Iíll say that straight up.

The punchy chords in the verses create a nice bright feel, and the bassline really helps with that, I quite like it. Itís upbeat and enjoyable to listen to. The chorus contrasts with a big, dense sound, layers of tremolo guitar and crash cymbal creating a nice soundscape. I dig it.

Then thereís an abrupt cut to a kind of generic indie rock-ish bit that I donít really mind but is definitely inferior to the rest of the song. Thankfully itís over quick and the free time intense swell of noise that hits after is really cool, just a lovely huge sound. And then a brief cut to a jazzy break for some soloing, because the middle of this song is an absolutely mess structurally. Again, this bit Iím not so huge on but I donít mind it either. Itís pleasant, and it transitions back into the final chorus well enough.

Iím not really sure how to describe the singerís voice here. Itís likeÖ a singing style Iíve heard before (and no, not just from the other dredg song Iíve heard), but one that I canít make any comparisons to, either. And Iím neutral to slightly positive on the vocals, all things considered. They feel kind of monodynamic, mostly; thereís basically no variation to the level heís singing at, except that thereís some reverb on his voice during the chorus that makes it sound slightly bigger. The vocal melodies are solid enough though.

In general Iíd say I like the main ďmeatĒ of this song, but the random interludes in the middle of the song just donít work too well; it feels like the attitude was ďgotta do random stuff just to be progĒ but they didnít really know how to integrate the random stuff very well so it just happens. But thereís nothing here thatís unpleasant to listen to and itís generally pretty musically interesting. I like this but I canít say I love it.

7.25/10



#4: Evermind: Sonata Arctica Ė My Dream's But a Drop of Fuel for a Nightmare (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5P53ozwaec)

First Impressions:
Iíve known of Sonata Arctica for about as long as Iíve known of Dream Theater, honestly, but as Iíve almost always shied away from power metal Iíve never really checked them out beyond a few songs. Already this feels like it has a lot more personality and originality to it than the genreís standard. Yeah, the layers of harmonized vocals are definitely making me happy. I guess the biggest issue is that the strings arenít especially convincing, and looking it up, yeah, they are indeed fake it looks like, but ehh. I feel like your quest to get cut from my roulette is going to need at least one more round.

Final Thoughts:
The way this song flows and the many twists it takes while sounding fairly effortless in doing so. I admire it for that, no doubt. Building up a simple piano line into a heavy, chuggy riff and then taking that to a driving, triumphant feel with a bit of folky stuff creeping in shortly after, none of these would really be that stellar on their own but itís the way the song is constructed that makes it stand out.

Around 2 minutes the song cuts to a more standard 4/4 power metal feel and the chorus here isÖ weird, but intriguing. The vocal line has a weird rhythm to it and a strange melody, itís far from clichť and interesting as a result. 4:30 sees a return to the driving triplet feel with some piano and huge vocals making for an engaging climax, before returning to piano to close out the track. A full circle type of track.

I think one thing that makes this work where a lot of power metal doesnít for me is thatÖ a lot of power metal feels too clean and structured, calculated. It ends up, ironically, lacking in power; coming off as feigning heaviness that it canít actually back up. I donít think thatís the case here. I think this song is very convincingly heavy and itís very loose, very flowing. Thereís no big singalong chorus that the song defaults to, itís constantly on the move and doing something interesting at every turn.

I will say though that the string sound does hinder this at least a little for me, and itís not like this song is that old Ė 2007 from what I could find, newer than the Kamelot stuff I know, but I actually donít mind the rougher production this has; it really helps with avoiding the ďtoo cleanĒ sound of power metal. But yeah those strings couldíve served to sound better. Just a nitpick, because I have to.

I canít say itís the most unique song in the greater scheme of things, but for power metal, itís definitely above and beyond what Iím used to. Heck, even Kamelot on their more interesting songs still can fall prey to the issues I have with other power metal bands, itís just that, well, I heard the standard stuff from Kamelot first, which is probably about the only reason I ever got into them. But considering that Iíve known about these guys forever and never got around to checking them out, you may just have convinced me to give them a proper shot sometime.

7.5/10



#3: Scorpion: Dir En Grey Ė Vinushka (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LmNawNtWIE)

First Impressions:
I feel like at least at the start here the vocals are mixed far too low. That problem goes away quickly enough though so yeah fine. I had to go look up to make sure I wasnít just imagining that the singer sounds Japanese. And yup. The band is. Didnít expect that from the name. I uhh. Am not finding much to say about this, other than that itís solid. Some of the heavier moments of this sound a bit thin, theyíre lacking in punch when they should be crushing. Thereís a good amount of diversity here and although none of it is really that fresh I can certainly enjoy it for what it is, even if Iím not a huge fan yet.

Final Thoughts:
Letís face it here, this is obviously a really safe entry. The moment your PM hit my inbox you were basically already safe for at least one more round, even before Iíd heard a note. Because itís heavy prog metal, which I am horribly biased towards.

And uhh. Beyond that, I actually have no clue what to say about this, other than ďit all sounds goodĒ. The song builds up nicely to its first chorus during the first two minutes, and the chorus is very satisfying with a strong melody to it. Thereís some heavier/harsher points to the song but overall itís quite dynamic.

I guess, the drumming catches my ear the most here, thereís a lot of tom-heavy pounding moments in the quieter moments of the song and some good driving rhythms through the more intense moments. The guitar work throughout is solid too, if not particularly inventive. Some nice pretty moments and some solid riffing going on too.

The vocals on the whole are fine. Not really a huge fan of the distinctly Japanese timbre on the cleans but they have enough emotion in them that Iím not bothered by it, the final chorus especially has some cool moments. And the harsh vocals, while not really that special, sound find. The really guttural growls are actually kind of cool in a way, usually not my kind of thing but I dig it here.

I canít really say thereís any part of this that really stands out in a strong way, just that itís a well-constructed song front-to-back that keeps me interested enough the whole way through. I sort of feel like I donít have enough time/listens to really ďgetĒ this and I may come back and revisit it later. But Iím also not going to stress too hard about underrating this right now when it literally doesnít matter in the long run, and I know where it stands in comparison to the rest of the songs at this point in time, pretty definitively.

7.75/10
 


#2: Tomislav95: Goldfrapp Ė Clay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVnWQtyJgHI)

First Impressions:
Okay, the decision to have staccato strings going on in the background of a somber acoustic/vocal bit was a good one for sure. Reminds of me Olafur Arnaldsí Old Skin in a way. Itís maybe a bit slow to build or progress but itís a very pretty song to listen to at the very least. I donít have much to say about this. Itís well-textured and rather pleasant to listen to but not something that hits me too hard on first listen, though I can see it growing on me.

Final Thoughts:
I donít know what it is about this one. Itís so simple and lowkey, but quite effective. The way the song builds up from just guitar and vocals at the start to a really full-sounding song with layers of orchestration, and does so smoothly enough that you barely notice it happening. Yeah, thatís the kind of build I enjoy.

This is another singer where Iím not sure if theyíre male or female and I also donít really care because it doesnít matter, their voice is just a great complement to the music here. And thereís a lot of subtle harmonizing going on in a few places, just another layer added to the whole mix.

The orchestration is definitely what makes this track work, and a good part of that is because it just sounds great. Like, I donít know if the strings are real or fake but they sound plenty real to me. Between the staccato lines going on throughout most of the song, and the sweeter high tones that add to the texture of the track, it all works really well.

Obviously this did turn out to be a grower, probably even more than I expected it to. I canít really find any fault with this song. Maybe the ending is a tad abrupt, but only a little? Itís not a perfect song or anything either, it doesnít evoke any really strong emotions, but it evokes plenty of lighter ones and I quite enjoy it every time I listen to it, so thereís definitely something there.

8/10
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 02:09:01 PM
Naught but Pyrite

#10: LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExtLHTGMYx8)

First Impressions:
Well, thatís certainly a song title alright. I can see this is going to be pretty heavy on the dissonance aspect. At some point, this kind of dissonance just ends up being a blur to me, thereís not a lot to get out of a total lack of melody. I guess thereís something resembling melody with the flute and strings bit in the middle though. I honestly canít tell if this is super pretentious or itís just that I donít ďgetĒ it but I certainly canít deny that itís unique.

Final Thoughts:
I justÖ donít know how to deal with this song. Itís generally the one Iím most looking forward to showing up when I listen to all these, but then itís easily the song I get the least enjoyment out of to actually listen to. Itís absolutely the most unique song here, at the very least. I donít know how you even classify this. Avant-Garde Metal? Kind of?

Itís incredibly complex music. The rhythms are constantly changing, thereís a ton of different instruments in there and everything is doing its own thing all the time, but synchronized well enough that it all clicks into place. On a purely rhythmic level this song is pretty neat. But itís lacking in melody, and thatís really its downfall. The melodies that do exist here are all strange and twisted, I donít think this song is played in any scale other than the chromatic scale.

It never gets overwhelming and itís not lacking in dynamics; there are more than enough breaks and even at its heaviest itís not particularly crushing, just chaotic and manic. The quieter breaks have some of the more eclectic instrumentation and more melody and theyíre generally the highlight of this song for me. Theyíre playful in an interesting way.

Itís not really too long either and it goes in enough directions that it doesnít get boring. It repeats some ideas and melodies, but never too often, and reuses them in interesting or clever ways. Everything flows well together, thereís no really awkward transitions, and the climax of the song is satisfying and ends the track well, given everything before it.

On a technical level, everything is basically in its right place.

Except the most important part Ė I just donít enjoy listening to it. The heavy parts have no power to them, they feel robotic and jagged in the worst ways, without any real punch, and they all blend together. The quieter moments do have an appealing playfulness to them, but they have no atmosphere and no real emotive presence either. The song is incredibly dry to listen to and just leaves me feeling nothing, and without any memorable riffs or beautiful melodies, with the harsh gruff vocals that have no emotion to them, itís just unpleasant to listen to.

I guess what Iím trying to say is, as with Jean-Luc Ponty last round, I can see why someone would get a lot of enjoyment out of this, but I justÖ donít. Thereís not a single passage of this 6-minute track that I find myself wanting to return to.

3.25/10



#9: Tyrias: Azedia Ė Remain As You Are (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0IoDwBxiCU)

First Impressions:
I am super wary about this from how you described it because it sounds like the kind of thing Iíd hate, or at least be super bored by. Thus far itísÖ pleasant enough, but the atmosphere isnít really one Iím finding myself getting lost in. Not actually bothered by the spoken word here, itís not grating and it mostly is used to fill up the emptier parts of the track.  Thereís a pretty satisfying climax in the back half and it sounds like some guitarís crept in there? Awesome. I liked this more than I expected to, though I donít like it as much as your first round submission, either.

Final Thoughts:
Iím sitting here trying to type up something for this and just realizing that, wow, this is just a really generic song. Like, itís inoffensive and generally pretty pleasant to listen to, butÖ

What does this have to offer, really? Definitely not that piano line, which is incredibly standard for this kind of electronic stuff. Or the percussion, which is nothing special. The vocals? Theyíre alright, I guess, she sounds decent. Not particularly unique and the vocal melodies are nothing special, but, pleasant.

I guess, when the guitar kicks in for the last two minutes and the song gets pretty huge sounding... thatís at least something I can dig. The constant, repetitive ascending synth line that accompanies it is nothing special to start with and gets really tiresome as it keeps going on.

And this song has so few elements to speak of overall. Like, I basically went over everything the song has to offer except the weird dubstep-y synths and the spoken word parts, both of which IímÖ pretty indifferent to, all things considered. I guess thereís the warm, droning synths in the background, but thatís just it, theyíre in the background, they serve their purpose well but theyíre not what you pay attention to.

This is another one that just got less interesting with every listen, because it has so little to offer, and what it does have to offer doesnít have much power or depth to it, nothing to keep me wanting to return. I would never really seek it out, but I donít mind listening to it either, and I canít say Iím eager to return to it.

5/10



Pure Precious Metal

#1: home: We Made God Ė II (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CboLSfDeBo)

First Impressions:
When the tremolo guitar comes in itís almost like a chainsaw drowning out everything beneath it, and I canít tell if I hate it or love it. I am loving how heavy and overwhelming this is though. HmmÖ yeahÖ that sample would probably be better if it was a bit lower in the mix but the music behind it is nice enough that I donít really mind that much? The buildup from the middle onwards is really well-done and the crushingly beautiful climax makes for a great payoff too. Youíve definitely hit upon a sweet spot with heavy, atmospheric music here though, even if there is one glaring flaw.

Final Thoughts:
Iím really surprised this isnít tagged as blackgaze anywhere, because thatís really the biggest vibe I get from this track, especially with all the distorted tremolo picking going on and the huge wall of sound it creates. Thatís exactly what I like in black metal and blackgaze, and yeah, I am definitely digging it here. The heavier moments of this are as crushing as Iíd want them to be.

The quieter moments, too, are well-executed here. The bass and drums carry their weight well and keep the driving feel of the song going while the twinkly guitars provide the texture that allows the song to build back up to a heavier finale.

The vocals here are pretty solid, the clean vocals in the first half sound pretty strained as theyíre being crushed by the wall of guitars, and the harsh vocals in the second half are even further crushed to the point where they just provide a layer of rough texture to an already intense atmosphere.

The sample though. I donít like it, and you knew I wouldnít like it. Especially the case with the almost 30 seconds of nothing but sample at the end, which I was legitimately tempted to cut off the mp3 because it would improve the song to do so, but even in the middle of the song, at least when it first kicks in, itís too much. I get so tired of samples like this so easily, I hate when Godspeed does it and I pretty well hate it here. Honestly the last thing I ever want is politics in my music, and I am pretty averse to ďangryĒ music in general, which is what samples like this always make songs feel like. Mix it lower or cut it out entirely, I say. It does end up buried under the music as the song builds back up, but the damage is definitely done. Oh well.

Even sample aside, while I do enjoy this song on a basic level, it isnít anything especially unique for what it is, just (mostly) well-executed atmospheric metal. Probably not something Iíd want to seek out more of but I may at least check out the album, since I do like this.

8/10

LordCost and Tyrias are out, the rest can go ahead and send round 3.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 07, 2016, 02:19:23 PM
You mean I could've gone with a worse song and still be in? Damn.

As a massive fan of Second Sight Blackout I think you point out all the flaws in the song very well, and I can see them. Guess the song is incredibly disjointed but it's something I care way less for if I simply like the separate parts enough. The other songs on the EP are not really as disjointed but they don't have as much staying power.

Gonna step up for R3, maybe something riskier IDK yet.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Tyrias on August 07, 2016, 02:24:02 PM
Well, at least it was no 3.25 :lol. It was fun playing while it lasted, but I wasn't really expecting to make it far.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 07, 2016, 02:29:26 PM
I have no problems with #2 :tup
I'm pretty sure I know what to send, something intense and beautiful, and noisy (very noisy). Expect it soon.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 07, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
Wow, I actually expected to be out and have no clue what to send now. Will send shortly though, since I am not entirely sure if I have acces to internet in the following couple of days.

Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 07, 2016, 03:43:41 PM
Wow, I barely made it through. One of my bigger concerns was realized to an extent:

I canít say this is a bad song, and if I only heard it like once or twice a month for a few months and then never again, Iíd probably remember it fondly, but listening to it every day for the better part of a week, Iím definitely tired of listening to it and wouldnít want to return to it.

Because this is definitely not a song and artist that I return to frequently, and I definitely have fond feelings towards this song, but I'm not sure how I'd do if I listened to it everyday for a week.

Well, I made it through, and I'll try to find something different here just to keep things interesting. I can't possibly make it through another round, though, can I?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 03:48:33 PM
send me a better song and you might  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 07, 2016, 03:49:45 PM
I'm gonna send hip-hop so you only have to beat 1 person
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 07, 2016, 03:53:43 PM
Wow so my chances of surviving are now up to 10% from 2%.

What I like is how even the song Parama liked best got the "Probably not something Iíd want to seek out more of" treatment. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 03:57:30 PM
honestly of the last set, the three bands i'm most likely to check out more from are dir en grey, sonata arctica, and - of course - sleepytime gorilla museum. the last one just to see if their other stuff is that unpleasant, mostly, but  :lol
i'll probably get around to checking out everything that scores 7.5 or higher at some point, at the very least

i did check out some amorphis too but wasn't really too into it. basically how i felt about the song i got, it's solid and i like it but it doesn't really stand out or sound particularly fresh.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Luoto on August 07, 2016, 05:31:13 PM
i did check out some amorphis too but wasn't really too into it. basically how i felt about the song i got, it's solid and i like it but it doesn't really stand out or sound particularly fresh.

I guess you didn't come across any of their mid-90's stuff then, that's where their widely considered classic material is at. Eclipse onwards is solid-to-excellent on its own merits.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
i checked out skyforger, the album the song i got was on
fwiw i have a hard time with 90's metal albums in general, production is often too muddy or rough for me
especially any black or death metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: LordCost on August 07, 2016, 07:06:39 PM
honestly of the last set, the three bands i'm most likely to check out more from are dir en grey, sonata arctica, and - of course - sleepytime gorilla museum. the last one just to see if their other stuff is that unpleasant, mostly, but  :lol
i'll probably get around to checking out everything that scores 7.5 or higher at some point, at the very least

i did check out some amorphis too but wasn't really too into it. basically how i felt about the song i got, it's solid and i like it but it doesn't really stand out or sound particularly fresh.

Try to listen to Phtisis, I want to know if I would have passed the round with that one. It's shorter and has a melody (weird, but at least I can say there's a melody) sang by a female voice. Or if you really have time, listen to all the first five tracks of the Natural History album to decide how much you don't like them, to me that sequence of tracks is brilliant.

I was listening to SGM these days, today I tried with Helpless Corpses Enactment of their last album (I only know 1 out of 3 albums). Stay away from that one, it's on the same style of The donkey etc. but more heavy, drier and unpleasant, as you said for my song :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: LordCost on August 07, 2016, 07:12:55 PM
These days I had a reason to listen to music I don't listen often to search for possible submissions, and I probably have found enough songs for 7-8 rounds. It's a shame it's all already finished  :facepalm: I will keep them for a future roulette
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 07, 2016, 07:16:17 PM
there will be another parama roulette, probably earlyish-to-mid-2017 or so i'd guess
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on August 07, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
Nice, #5 again. Time to send some modern classical.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 07, 2016, 10:10:39 PM
Wow I actually get to send another song? Okay then.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 07, 2016, 10:39:48 PM
Wow, there's 3.25 and isn't mine. I've got another SGM song in my roulette and I think it got 4/10. :lol

Check out Unia from SA, I think it will appeal to you the most. I was sure this song was going to get me eliminated though. Now I have to think of another song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 07, 2016, 10:45:00 PM
Sent my last song for real this time probably.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Kilgore Trout on August 08, 2016, 02:50:19 AM
#10: LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExtLHTGMYx8)

[...] The heavy parts have no power to them, they feel robotic and jagged in the worst ways, without any real punch, and they all blend together. The quieter moments do have an appealing playfulness to them, but they have no atmosphere and no real emotive presence either. The song is incredibly dry to listen to and just leaves me feeling nothing, and without any memorable riffs or beautiful melodies, with the harsh gruff vocals that have no emotion to them, itís just unpleasant to listen to.

I understand why you would find this track unpleasant (and to each is own), but to say it has "no real emotion presence" is misleading. Music isn't just about "beautiful melodies" and simple emotions that can be easily categorized. There is a lot going on here, not only on a technical level. It's just that the internal meaning of the song is less obvious and much harder to grasp than most rock bands. I've come to accept the fact that this kind of music is only accessible if you're used to listen to classical music (especially 20th century classical music) or post 60's jazz, because they work the same way and seek for a more complete human experience, that involves not only emotions (even if subtle ones, and weird and jagged ones too, because the human experience is that way) but also intellect, critical distance, and abstract thinking, than most modern pop/rock music, which is mostly obvious and only seeks an immediate response from the listener.

To put it bluntly, the SGM stuff involves real emotions. The reified version of emotions that most rock and pop music sells you as "honest" or whatever, and is in reality contrived and conventional, does not.

On another note, "The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion" is one of their most accessible tracks, so you can skip the rest.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 08, 2016, 06:25:32 AM
Sent some hangmanencore
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2016, 07:06:18 AM
Sent some folk metal. According to the first couple of posts, this should be up Parama's alley, but none of his music tastes make sense, so who knows.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 08:33:55 AM
#10: LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExtLHTGMYx8)

[...] The heavy parts have no power to them, they feel robotic and jagged in the worst ways, without any real punch, and they all blend together. The quieter moments do have an appealing playfulness to them, but they have no atmosphere and no real emotive presence either. The song is incredibly dry to listen to and just leaves me feeling nothing, and without any memorable riffs or beautiful melodies, with the harsh gruff vocals that have no emotion to them, itís just unpleasant to listen to.

I understand why you would find this track unpleasant (and to each is own), but to say it has "no real emotion presence" is misleading. Music isn't just about "beautiful melodies" and simple emotions that can be easily categorized. There is a lot going on here, not only on a technical level. It's just that the internal meaning of the song is less obvious and much harder to grasp than most rock bands. I've come to accept the fact that this kind of music is only accessible if you're used to listen to classical music (especially 20th century classical music) or post 60's jazz, because they work the same way and seek for a more complete human experience, that involves not only emotions (even if subtle ones, and weird and jagged ones too, because the human experience is that way) but also intellect, critical distance, and abstract thinking, than most modern pop/rock music, which is mostly obvious and only seeks an immediate response from the listener.

To put it bluntly, the SGM stuff involves real emotions. The reified version of emotions that most rock and pop music sells you as "honest" or whatever, and is in reality contrived and conventional, does not.

On another note, "The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion" is one of their most accessible tracks, so you can skip the rest.
reminder: this is all my opinion, and when i say something has no emotional presence, that's because it makes me feel nothing

this post is literally the pretentious garbage i'm talking about though, can you please get out of my thread?  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 08, 2016, 09:42:45 AM
this post is literally the pretentious garbage i'm talking about though, can you please get out of my thread?  :lol

I'll admit to being no expert in music, but I'm moderately knowledgeable about literature, and in that field it's been in vogue for a while now for people to supposedly find great depth in really bizarre and hard-to-read books or poetry while casting aspersions on "contrived and conventional" works. This seems to me like a similar situation, and I'm deeply skeptical of claims like that.

I only listened to a few minutes of that track, and it's not really anything I would want to listen to. I don't intend to cast aspersions on anyone who likes itóI guess I can see why someone might, for technicality if for nothing elseóbut I have to agree with what Parama said about pretension.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 09:45:49 AM
tbh, it's mostly that he's trying to tell me my opinion is wrong

oh and i have 5/8 songs now, NUGGETZ
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 08, 2016, 09:53:09 AM
That too, but what I'm getting at is the particular style of doing that: "oh, you're just used to that conventional, contrived stuff that is all fake emotion, while this thing that an uncultured person like you might find robotic, dry or unpleasant is where true emotion lies."

It's just a particular attitude that I find annoying.

Anyway, let me try and find a song for you.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 08, 2016, 09:59:25 AM
I feel bad for people who can't find enjoyment in "Napalm Death - You Suffer", they probably just don't have a human experience as complete as mine
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 08, 2016, 10:06:24 AM
OMG Train how did you know what my favorite song was?!!
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 08, 2016, 11:11:43 AM
Educated guess.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 08, 2016, 11:15:09 AM
I can't believe I'm going to argue that one, because I'm usually the guy who stays away from all discussion like this since I come here mostly to relax and share my opinion about music and have fun, but something about this just got under my skin I suppose.

Quote
To put it bluntly, the SGM stuff involves real emotions. The reified version of emotions that most rock and pop music sells you as "honest" or whatever, and is in reality contrived and conventional, does not.

Stuff like this sounds like you would really benefit to get off the high horse, so to speak. Hell, everyone gets emotional over different things, depending on the life events experienced, the way of living, the way your personality shaped up through all the years. Sometimes it's the simplicity and honesty that does it, where only the piano and the voice behind the song can make you weep because of how personal the subject to you or how stunningly beautiful the vocal melody is, or sometimes it's the outright anger and chaotic nature of the song, or sometimes it's the complexity; I'm fairly sure every person here on DTF is slightly different in this regard. To label some of the music containing and evoking "real emotions" and shrugging off other music (which may or may not be more or less simple than the band/song in question), saying it's "fake" and only "sells you the reified version of emotions as ęhonestĽ" is inconsiderate at best, and quite belittling and insulting to other forum users, once again in my opinion.

Short version, I'm with 425 on that matter. But hey, to each their own I guess.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on August 08, 2016, 11:21:32 AM
Ye in arts there's this line between something being a masterpiece or a piece of hipster shit, and music is no different. Some of my friends love SGM just because how weird, creepy and bizarre their music is. I guess his point was that "The Donkey-Headed Adversary..." just explores a different range of emotions than most music does, these being quite dark ones. But they're still human anyway, like sadness or rage, or more typical emotions. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: LordCost on August 08, 2016, 11:36:45 AM
 :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 11:39:32 AM
Again, not saying as a fact that it's emotionless
Just saying that it evokes no emotions for me, other than annoyance  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 08, 2016, 11:53:09 AM
Anyway, sent my final song! Might as well go out with something different from what I usually send.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 08, 2016, 11:55:35 AM
I sent as well. I tried to channel Parama and send something sort of weird, but my tastes are so vanilla compared to the Paramacore side of this forum that I'm half expecting to get a result of "Too normal and generic. 5.5."
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 12:18:52 PM
Just missing Sacul it looks like. I can get impressions and hangman up tonight if he sends  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 08, 2016, 12:22:35 PM
It's already 9.22 PM and I'm going to sleep since hey, getting up at 5 AM isn't fun. Hopefully Sacul will delay this for eight - or better ten :biggrin: - hours or something. I want to get a stab on the unguessed hangman which I seem to be missing lately, always coming in threads when there are already a few letters guessed.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 12:38:35 PM
if it makes you feel better, I won't be home for 6 more hours and will probably not have anything up for 2 hours after that anyways
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 08, 2016, 12:39:55 PM
Try to guess this one:

_____ _________ - _____ __ ___, ___ __ ________
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 08, 2016, 12:41:48 PM
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness? :D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 08, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
The official roulette song of Parama.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 12:48:51 PM
I literally sent it once ever sheesh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 08, 2016, 12:49:02 PM
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness? :D

Are you a real life superhero and this is your power? Still better than Superman.

That's impressive in the nerdiest way.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 08, 2016, 01:01:46 PM
Well that's one of the most popular roulette songs so I could understand that.. but through PM Evermind has just shown me his supernatural powers, he guessed the song I sent this round without ANY letters, on top of which: I've never sent this band before and never posted about them (I think). I made a deal and unfortunately lost, so if I make it to round 4 Parama will get something from me that'll surely get me booted.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 08, 2016, 01:08:04 PM
Let's make it that way, if I'm eliminated in Round 3, you don't have to send that song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 08, 2016, 01:19:54 PM
But apparently you weren't even sure whether that was the song, how did you come to the conclusion? Tell us the secret

Bet you've never heard of it either
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 08, 2016, 01:23:21 PM
I'm almost never sure when I'm guessing. That's kind of why it's called "guessing". :biggrin:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 01:25:51 PM
tbh i am thinking of trying something different than hangmanen this time but there will still be a guessing game regardless
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Elite on August 08, 2016, 01:35:41 PM
Give us an E
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: twosuitsluke on August 08, 2016, 01:36:18 PM
I liked Trains 'guess the album cover' but it looks like a ball ache to set up.

Use only emojis to write the band/song? Like modern day hieroglyphics, but it will make you dumber!
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 08, 2016, 01:41:40 PM
Yeah that was a bitch to make, once but never again.

I also had a draft going on where I would use 0's and 1's to indicate consonants and vowels, I was gonna reveal some letters along the way or something but it all seemed a bit sloppy.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 01:43:14 PM
I'm just gonna do like band/song hints tbh  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: LordCost on August 08, 2016, 06:34:18 PM
Just to say my opinion and conclude the debate, I've listened many times the SGM songs I know. I believe that the replay value of those songs comes half for the genius of the band and half for the """catchiness""" and atmosphere that the music conveys.
I know by heart only six tracks of SGM (first five of Of Natural History plus Babydoctor) and based on those songs I can say that the album is a work of art that has to be shared and remembered for many years. I'm going to discover the rest of the album, but I remember that I saved only those songs in my player because the others were interesting only at a conceptual level and nothing more. The first tracks were instead more rock and metal oriented and I enjoy them.
I knew my submission was either a 2 or 9, so there's no problem :)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 09:43:25 PM
i have all 8 songs, and have listened to 0 of them yet because i've been busy

i'll just try to barrel through them all tonight and hopefully have tidbits and hangman or something ready before i sleep  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 08, 2016, 11:53:51 PM
Round 3 First Impressions

Itís actually an interesting contrast between the bright instrumentation and the darker vibes here, and the instrumentation itself is solidly interesting on its own too.

The strings are a nice touch, the riffs have a lot of power and energy to them, the drumming is pretty solid. Iím not so sure this song can sustain its length, though.

A bit into this and Iím finding that while this isnít really standing out as anything particularly unique, thereís some cool riffs going on and itís far from boring.

Thereís a grandness, a sense of raw power to this track. Itís a basic song but really effective in what it does.

The wall of sound created by the guitars and strings is wonderfully dense and fuzzy, the drums arenít destroying it by being too active and the vocals blend right in.

The back half has a more standard sound to it and inevitably a sound I like a lot more, itís very spacey and ethereal.

Thereís not much about this that I find myself interested in, and with how long it takes to really get going thatís not a great sign.

The intro of this is kind of haunting and when the vocals come in it definitely seems like itís trying to veer in that direction.

Overall: Okay, this is blatantly the best round of the roulette thus far, which should be expected after cutting a third of the participants away I guess, but it's the best in a "almost every score of this round would be at or above the median score of the previous rounds" kind of way, or at least that's how I'm feeling on first listen. I won't judge too quickly either and maybe all of them could even end up in the 7+ range, and I wouldn't doubt the best song of the roulette thus far is in this round, nor would I be able to tell you just which one it is yet.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 12:00:13 AM
Round 3 Hangman!!!

???: ________ - ___ ______ __ ____
???: _________ ____ - ___ _____ ___ _____
???: _____ _____ - _/_____
???: ______ _____ - _______
???: ___ ___ ____ ____ - _____ ____ __ ____
???: _______________ - _____________
???: ____ ___________ - _______
???: ____ _____ - ____

I'm too tired/lazy to put together the other thing I wanted to try, maybe I'll do it next round when I only have 6 songs  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 09, 2016, 12:06:07 AM
Thereís not much about this that I find myself interested in, and with how long it takes to really get going thatís not a great sign.
Mine.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 09, 2016, 12:09:18 AM
Quote
The back half has a more standard sound to it and inevitably a sound I like a lot more, itís very spacey and ethereal.
Maybe mine.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 09, 2016, 01:37:23 AM
1. no
2. no
3. maybe
4. maybe
5. no
6. no
7. no
8. maybe

Also, give me the D.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 01:39:30 AM
Tomislav95 waits 3.

Letters guessed:
D

???: ___d____ - ___ ___d__ __ ____
???: ________d ____ - ___ _____ ___ _____
???: _____ _____ - _/_____
???: ______ ____d - _______
???: ___ __d D__d ____ - _____ D___ __ D___
???: ______________d - _____________
???: D___ ___________ - ___d___
???: ____ _____ - ____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 09, 2016, 01:44:16 AM
Thereís a grandness, a sense of raw power to this track. Itís a basic song but really effective in what it does.

Could be mine, also G
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 01:45:23 AM
home waits 3.
Tomislav95 waits 2.

Letters guessed:
DG

???: ___d____ - ___ G__d__ __ ____
???: ________d ____ - ___ _____ ___ _____
???: _____ _____ - _/_____
???: ______ ____d - ____g__
???: ___ __d D__d ____ - _____ D___ __ D___
???: ______________d - ____g________
???: D___ ___________ - ___d___
???: ____ _____ - ____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 09, 2016, 01:47:00 AM
Gimme the O.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 2 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 09, 2016, 02:19:31 AM
Thereís a grandness, a sense of raw power to this track. Itís a basic song but really effective in what it does.

Thereís not much about this that I find myself interested in, and with how long it takes to really get going thatís not a great sign.
Leaning towards the first one but I'm not sure
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 09, 2016, 02:54:53 AM
Wilderun - The Garden of Fire

ToN had the same song in his roulette, can't remember who sent it though. Boss track anyway.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
home waits 2.
Tomislav95 waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGO

???: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: __o_____d ____ - _o_ _____ ___ __o__
???: _____ ____o - _/_____
???: __o___ ____d - __o_g__
???: ___ O_d D__d ____ - _____ Do__ __ Do__
???: _o____________d - ____g________
???: D___ ___________ - ___d___
???: ____ _____ - _o__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 09, 2016, 09:02:00 AM
The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done, Tomislav?

I would normally say Scorpion but

Wilderun - The Garden of Fire

ToN had the same song in his roulette, can't remember who sent it though. Boss track anyway.
That was him.

Oh and give me some S
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 09:08:33 AM
Scorpion waits 2.
home waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOS

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: __o_____d ____ - _o_ _____ ___ S_o__
???: _____ ____o - _/____s
???: S__o__s ____d - __o_g_s
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o___s________d - ____g________
???: D___ ___________ - ___d___
???: ___s _____ - _o__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 09, 2016, 09:25:26 AM
Are there any Ms?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 09:27:07 AM
Tomislav95 waits 3.
Train of Naught waits 2.
Scorpion waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOSM

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: __o_____d ____ - _o_ _____ ___ S_o__
???: _____ ____o - _/____s
???: S__o__s ____d - __o_g_s
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o___s________d - ____g____m___
???: D___ ___________ - ___d__m
???: ___s ____m - Mo__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 09, 2016, 09:29:44 AM
H
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 09:31:22 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
Tomislav95 waits 2.
Train of Naught waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOSMH

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: __o_____d ____ - _o_ _h___ _h_ S_o__
???: _____ ____o - _/____s
???: S__o__s ____d - _ho_gh_s
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o___s___h____d - ____gh___m___
???: D___ ___________ - ___d__m
???: ___s ___hm - Mo__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 09, 2016, 10:06:52 AM
W
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 10:20:03 AM
there is a single w, it is the 5th letter of the second word of the second song title
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 09, 2016, 10:33:05 AM
Y
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 09, 2016, 10:41:39 AM
there is a single w, it is the 5th letter of the second word of the second song title

Theres another one in the second word of that band :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 10:58:36 AM
this is why I don't update hangmanen at work  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 06:35:56 PM
Sacul waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
Tomislav95 waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOSMHW

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: __o_____d _w__ - _o_ _h__w _h_ S_o__
???: _____ ____o - _/____s
???: S__o__s ____d - _ho_gh_s
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o___s___h____d - ____gh___m___
???: D___ ___________ - ___d__m
???: ___s ___hm - Mo__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 09, 2016, 10:44:55 PM
I only see Train's song and mine.

P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 09, 2016, 11:01:06 PM
Evermind waits 3.
Sacul waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOSMHWP

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: P_o_____d _w__ - _o_ _h__w _h_ S_o__
???: _____ ____o - _/____s
???: Spo__s ____d - _ho_gh_s
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o___s___h____d - ____gh___m___
???: D___ ___________ - ___d__m
???: ___s ___hm - Mo__

i'm really surprised one of these hasn't been guessed, but i'm pretty sure it's going to be guessed right away after that
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 09, 2016, 11:41:18 PM
Spock's Beard :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 10, 2016, 12:35:42 AM
Spocks Beard - Thoughts would be my gueas, but it's missing 1 letter between Sp and o then

So I will guess Spoocky Beard - Thoughts
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 10, 2016, 12:49:23 AM
what extra space are you talking about
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 10, 2016, 01:12:06 AM
The one you edited out. :loser:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 10, 2016, 07:55:23 AM
If a certain someone were to send Gojira in this roulette, are they automatically removed from the roulette or will you atleast try to like it. It's in my nature to fill big holes.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 10, 2016, 08:49:31 AM
gojira scored like a 6.5/10 in my last roulette, and i've never really cared for a single song i've heard from them
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 10, 2016, 09:45:14 AM
Gimme dat A.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 10, 2016, 09:47:55 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOSMHWPA

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: P_o_____d _w__ - _o_ _h__w _h_ S_o__
???: _____ ____o - _/____s
???: Spock's Beard - Thoughts
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o_a_s___ha___d - ____gh___m___
???: Da__ __a________ - ___d__m
???: ___s __ahm - Mo__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 10, 2016, 10:09:00 AM
I
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 10, 2016, 11:25:02 AM
I

This is going to give away my band and my song completely. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: ariich on August 10, 2016, 01:25:47 PM
#10: LordCost: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Ė The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExtLHTGMYx8)

[...] The heavy parts have no power to them, they feel robotic and jagged in the worst ways, without any real punch, and they all blend together. The quieter moments do have an appealing playfulness to them, but they have no atmosphere and no real emotive presence either. The song is incredibly dry to listen to and just leaves me feeling nothing, and without any memorable riffs or beautiful melodies, with the harsh gruff vocals that have no emotion to them, itís just unpleasant to listen to.

I understand why you would find this track unpleasant (and to each is own), but to say it has "no real emotion presence" is misleading. Music isn't just about "beautiful melodies" and simple emotions that can be easily categorized. There is a lot going on here, not only on a technical level. It's just that the internal meaning of the song is less obvious and much harder to grasp than most rock bands. I've come to accept the fact that this kind of music is only accessible if you're used to listen to classical music (especially 20th century classical music) or post 60's jazz, because they work the same way and seek for a more complete human experience, that involves not only emotions (even if subtle ones, and weird and jagged ones too, because the human experience is that way) but also intellect, critical distance, and abstract thinking, than most modern pop/rock music, which is mostly obvious and only seeks an immediate response from the listener.

To put it bluntly, the SGM stuff involves real emotions. The reified version of emotions that most rock and pop music sells you as "honest" or whatever, and is in reality contrived and conventional, does not.

On another note, "The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion" is one of their most accessible tracks, so you can skip the rest.
reminder: this is all my opinion, and when i say something has no emotional presence, that's because it makes me feel nothing

this post is literally the pretentious garbage i'm talking about though, can you please get out of my thread?  :lol
Agree that it should be obvious that you were talking about your own opinions so fair enough, but you didn't need to be quite so mean in response.

Digging your writeups by the way. Just started following roulettes again!
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 10, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
Luoto waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.
Evermind waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOSMHWPAI

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: P_o_____d _wi_ - _o_ _h__w _h_ S_o__
???: _i___ ____o - _/____s
???: Spock's Beard - Thoughts
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o_a_s___ha___d - ___igh___m___
???: Da__ __a___i_i__ - I_idi_m
???: _i_s __ahm - Mo__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 10, 2016, 09:29:38 PM
PSA that I updated the round structure after thinking about it for a bit longer.
Next round will be the two-song round, because the way I'm eliminating people that round requires at least two sacrifices. To make up for that, I changed the round after to be a semi-epic round, where you can send me any of those sweet 10 to 15 minute songs you've been holding. And then the epic round after that as usual.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 05:57:34 AM
Dark Tranquility - Iridium
I wouldn't say Evermind but
I

This is going to give away my band and my song completely. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 11, 2016, 06:00:37 AM
Nils Frahm - A Middle Of The Road Song That Will Pull Sacul Through To The Next Round
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 11, 2016, 06:42:10 AM
Dark Tranquility - Iridium
I wouldn't say Evermind but
I

This is going to give away my band and my song completely. :lol

 :tup
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 11, 2016, 07:15:55 AM
Quote
Dark Tranquility - Iridium

Tranquillity* ;)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 07:20:24 AM
Excuse my French ;D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 11, 2016, 07:20:57 AM
Quote
Dark Tranquility - Iridium

Tranquillity* ;)

Wow, I haven't ever noticed that. I think I provided the wrong name in PM too.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 11, 2016, 09:14:17 AM
Nils Frahm - A Perfect Song That Will Pull Sacul Through To The Next Round
Yup.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: TAC on August 11, 2016, 09:15:02 AM
Shame On The Night is all kinds of awesome. 425's score needs to be adjusted.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 09:26:38 AM
changed to a 4.25/10

also nobody guessed a letter so i haven't updated hangman sorry but nils frahm and both parts of dark tranquility and everminding and all are right
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 11, 2016, 09:29:12 AM
L, when you can be bothered.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 09:36:34 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
Luoto waits 2.
Scorpion waits 1.

Letters guessed:
DGOSMHWPAIL

Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
???: P_o_____d _wi_ - _o_ _h__w _h_ S_o__
???: _i___ _l__o - _/____s
???: Spock's Beard - Thoughts
???: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
???: _o_als_l_ha___d - __ligh___m___
Evermind: Dark Tranquillity - Iridium
Sacul: Nils Frahm - Mo__
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 11, 2016, 09:49:50 AM
Projected Twin - You Threw the Stone

And one of the songs looks to be titled Enlightenment
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 10:20:27 AM
B
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
yes, yes, and the first letter of the third band is the only b
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 11, 2016, 10:29:46 AM
So it's Biffy Clyro sent by home, don't know the song though
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 11, 2016, 10:35:37 AM
Perhaps you should guess numbers instead of letters  ::)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 10:38:38 AM
Perhaps you should guess numbers instead of letters  ::)
9/15ths
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 11, 2016, 10:39:48 AM
Perhaps you should guess numbers instead of letters  ::)
9/15ths
:tup
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 10:41:34 AM
all the things are right
just need one band name and a number of who sent whats
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 10:50:04 AM
425 = Mr. Spock
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 11, 2016, 12:19:58 PM
I'm guessing Tomislav sent The Old Dead Tree.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
yes and then no, someone already guessed that  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 11, 2016, 01:18:17 PM
results when tho
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 11, 2016, 01:21:09 PM
The Nils Frahm song is More, I'm guessing?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 01:33:54 PM
yes

Also results Saturday probably I won't have energy to do all the writeups Friday night
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 01:56:08 PM
Bolsters = The Old Dead Tree
ToN = Projected Twin
me = _o_als_l_ha___d
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
might as well guess your own band name tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
I'm on fire today. (I should really get a life) 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 11, 2016, 04:15:32 PM
The Nils Frahm song is More, I'm guessing?
Yup, and I absolutely recommend it to you (and anybody tbh).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 11, 2016, 04:34:57 PM
There's one band name missing, right? Give me the E.

The Nils Frahm song is More, I'm guessing?
Yup, and I absolutely recommend it to you (and anybody tbh).

I agree. :)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 11, 2016, 05:22:23 PM
Oh, it's Totalselfhatred (Finnish band). Apparently the official song title is Enlightment.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 11, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
Yes, it is. Wow I didn't notice it's Enlightment :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 11, 2016, 06:55:48 PM
Scorpion: Wilderun - The Garden of Fire
Train of Naught: Projected Twin - You Threw the Stone
home: Biffy Clyro - 9/15ths
425: Spock's Beard - Thoughts
Bolsters: The Old Dead Tree - What's Done Is Done
Tomislav95: Totalselfhatred - Enlightenment
Evermind: Dark Tranquillity - Iridium
Sacul: Nils Frahm - More

it's done
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 12, 2016, 11:57:40 PM
half the writeups done. i have a good feeling of who's going to be cut but the average score is skewed waaayy higher this round so they shouldn't feel too bad about it imo. results tomorrow for sure, having less songs to review makes this a bit quicker/less stressful than like round 1 or 2 was and also having the songs be generally better helps too. so yeah :soon:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 13, 2016, 01:41:13 AM
It's me isn't it

FeelsBadMan
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 13, 2016, 02:01:16 AM
It's me isn't it

Me and you both, probably.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 13, 2016, 07:51:24 AM
I'm definitely out though.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 09:12:14 AM
darn, you spoiled the results. everyone is out. the roulette is over
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 13, 2016, 09:46:22 AM
I expect to score quite high yet it wouldn't surprise me I'm out of this :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 13, 2016, 09:47:37 AM
I expect to score quite high yet it wouldn't surprise me I'm out of this :P

wow you're really sure of yourself
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 13, 2016, 09:53:28 AM
I like how pretty much everyone except Sacul thinks they're going to be cut.

It's totally going to be me.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 13, 2016, 10:26:16 AM
It's easier to accept being eliminated if you half except it :corn
I would say my song matches Parama's taste but maybe he appreciates risking and exploring new territories more than sending atmospheric bm :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 13, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
I can definitely see me being sacked this round


if Parama has no emotions at all and is not moved by my beautiful song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 10:42:12 AM
the highest score on any of my writeups thus far is 8.75, and i was tempted to make it a 9 but i don't think it's quite there for me yet. though it's really hard for a song to hit 9 when i only give it 5 listens to be fair but some songs could do it, being human would've prob been a 9 or 9.25 when i originally scored it and limousine a 9.5 or 9.75, maybe even a flat 10, it's just that good  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 13, 2016, 10:43:47 AM
Don't eliminate me and you're getting a 10 song next round :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 13, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
 :corn :corn :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 13, 2016, 01:41:03 PM
:corn :corn :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 13, 2016, 01:43:44 PM
:corn :corn :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 01:49:39 PM
i may go back and revise the score of the amorphis song to 7.75 because it is not a 7.5 at all and it's throwing off my arbitrary scoring scale by being too good for the number i gave it

this is why scoring scales suck but i will continue to use them regardless  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 02:08:38 PM
Floating Like a Feather

#6: Evermind: Dark Tranquillity Ė Iridium (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFtTYkG1hYE)

First Impressions:
I donít know what Celestial Violence without Einar would be. Just the growly parts? That sounds very un-Evermind-y. Jokes aside. I feel like you meant that as a ďcontrast between quieter, atmospheric parts and heavier, more explosive onesĒ. Regardless, having growls at all makes for one weird entry coming from you. Thereís a grandness, a sense of raw power to this track. Itís a basic song but really effective in what it does. I donít know what else to say about it.

Final Thoughts:
I still kind of feel like you were bribed into sending something like this but whatever haha. Iím glad you did regardless, itís a pretty rad song. Has the growlies instant 10/10.

Anyways. The quiet intro is solid but it doesnít really have the emotional depth of the song you directly compared it too, but itís solid nonetheless. When the song really kicks in though, thatís what Iím talking about. Just a pure power to it. Crushing guitars, booming drums, the synths providing a melodic background. It all sort of blends together into a wall of sound, but in a good way, the kind that overwhelms you as you listen to it.

The rest of the song is kind of just there in comparison to the chorus, really. The second verse has a bit more power behind it, the bridge has a solid guitar melody going on but itís repeated a bit too much, and the outro isÖ well, a bit too long for sure, but thereís some nice, subtle melodic stuff going on there. Itís all okay, but the chorus really outshines the rest of this. I donít dislike the rest but I find it all ďokayĒ at best.

I think I had a pretty positive kneejerk reaction to this one, and then on relistens noticed how little it really had to offer as a wholeÖ itís solid, thereís no doubting that, and that chorus is killer, but not especially unique either. I definitely enjoy it, thereís no doubt about that, but I feel like if I keep listening to this one Iíd start to lose interest in it. Kind of like what happened with Celestial Violence and most of Arktis, to be honest, so I guess hey the comparison works! Just not in the way you wanted it to, perhaps.

7.5/10



#5: home: Biffy Clyro Ė 9/15ths (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYRZA_U1kDc)

First Impressions:
This is the band that Mike Vennart played with for a bit, and also Iíve heard a few songs by as well. And is apparently djent, according to Evermind. The intro of this is kind of haunting and when the vocals come in it definitely seems like itís trying to veer in that direction. Okay, and when the heavy guitars kick in itís just crushing and intense. The climax is utterly massive, too. Shame itís so brief, though, but that definitely makes it concise.

Final Thoughts:
I kind of saw this coming, but the main issue of this song is pretty apparent; repeating one line over and over makes for a repetitive song, no matter how much you build up that one line. Itís not a particularly deep or interesting lyric to begin with, either. I do get tired of it, I wish there was more variety to the lyrics. Thereís like one bit that has different lyrics but itís short and they go back to the main line right after.

Musically though this is great. The somber guitar in the intro and the unnerving strings backing it. The crushing and punchy guitar when the song really kicks in, The bass and drums synchronizing with the rhythm to give it that much more punch. The choir that comes in to back the vocals, and then takes center stage at the end. The way the first loud bit doesnít quite go over the top so that they have something to top it later.

I really like the bridge between the two ďchorusesĒ of the song too, the crash cymbal rolls and fuzzy guitar and guitar noise creating this massive wall of sound that builds perfectly to the climax. And the screeching strings that come in over the final heavy bit to make it all that more powerful, just wonderfully epic.

Iím almost wondering if the songís length works in its favor to some extent, as itíd be exponentially more repetitive if it were twice as long and Iíd probably get tired of it, but at under 3 minutes itís kept concise and relistenable, even if Iím slightly bothered by the lyrics. But itís really only slightly, and overall this is a killer track. Maybe one day Iíll actually look deeper into these guys, Iíve known about them forever, so, yeah.

8/10



#4: Tomislav95: Totalselfhatred Ė Enlightenment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu2-8m9k51E)

First Impressions:
Pretty distinctly getting a ďnothing especially unique, but just rather well doneĒ vibe from this one right away. The wall of sound created by the guitars and strings is wonderfully dense and fuzzy, the drums arenít destroying it by being too active and the vocals blend right in. It definitely fits in with the kind of black metal I enjoy; intense and beautiful, crushing and gorgeous, and not really concerned with being br00tal or dissonant.

Final Thoughts:
I guess if I had to pick out a fault in this track, itís that all the louder parts sound the same, as far as I can tell thereís not much variation outside of the vocals and the drums changing a few times. That being said, what gets repeated is plenty good and itís atmospheric in a way such that I donít really get tired of it, so thatís more of a nitpick than anything.

I think the MVP of this track are the strings that show up in the quieter places. They really help keep the song sounding dense and haunting, they provide a darker texture that plays well off the guitar and piano melodies, creating a chilling mood that I quite like. The guitar and piano lines during the quieter moments are both solid too, they serve their purpose plenty well.

Surprisingly, considering this is a black metal track, the bass is pretty audible throughout the louder moments of the track. Not that it does much special other than a few melodies towards the end of the song, but itís nice to hear regardless. The drums also mostly change by adding double-kick bass to the same straightforward rhythm which drives the energy of the song up ever so slightly while not really breaking the atmosphere.

Itís really hard to describe this song in ways other than ďeverything worksĒ and ďit all sounds goodĒ. I canít say this is as spacey or easy to get lost in as Alrakis tends to be for me, but itís a similar sound in a lot of the same ways and definitely a sound I can get behind. Iíd definitely listen to a whole album of songs like this, absolutely. Not a standout track but certainly an enjoyable one regardless.

8.25/10



#3: Bolsters: The Old Dead Tree Ė Whatís Done is Done (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPhWdYkiR3k)

First Impressions:
A bit into this and Iím finding that while this isnít really standing out as anything particularly unique, thereís some cool riffs going on and itís far from boring. That weird disco guitar that pops up in a few places is a strange choice though. Iím not sure why itís there or what itís supposed to add. The calmer break in the middle is solid. This is one of those songs that doesnít have anything really standing out on first listen but is just all-around solid, and Iím fine with that.

Final Thoughts:
This song is kind of all over the place. The intro guitar tone is something straight out of some kind of mid 2000ís indie rock track. Then the song kicks in with a driving, slightly heavier pop rock style riff and death metal growls. And that random funk/disco guitar that happens on the chorus. And then 1:30 thereís the slower bit that has this feeling of impending doom about it, itís macabre in a way. And THEN a cut to a quieter middle. And thereís a piano in there too, just for good measure?

Honestly as simple as the guitar riffs in this song are, I quite like them. They have a lot of groove to them but also a driving force when itís needed. They keep the songís energy high but theyíre crunchy enough to have power too. The slower, heavily melodic parts are probably my favorite bits though, I just like the atmosphere they have, itís dark in an interesting way. Thereís not really anything new that shows up past the halfway mark aside from a guitar solo and an intense riff accompanying it as the song builds up to its climax, but thereís enough to the song that it doesnít get stale either.

The growls are a bit underplayed here, only showing up a few times, but theyíre pretty solid, and the song gets suitably intense to match them whenever they show up. The cleans are solid too, not exceptional but plenty serviceable and the vocal melodies are pretty good on the whole, no real complaints on that front. Really the only nitpicks I have are that disco guitar that Iím just not a huge fan of, same with the tone of the guitar during the intro. Theyíre both just too fuzzy and thin sounding, I suppose.

I still wouldnít say that this is especially a ďstandoutĒ song in any way, but one that covers all its bases well and has very little about it I find unappealing. Itís just a very enjoyable listen. I can dig it. Another case where Iím ping-ponging between two scores so Iíll just give you the higher one, sure.

8.25/10



#2: 425: Spockís Beard Ė Thoughts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzfxmGD033c)

First Impressions:
I found myself able to predict some of the repeating melodies in the intro after hearing the first bar of the phrase, which isnít exactly the greatest thing for something thatís trying to be unpredictable prog, but itís not like I see most of it coming anyways. I can see where youíre coming from with the weirdness, between the noises in the intro and the a cappella-feeling vocal bits. Beyond that though itís a fairly standard prog rock type of affair with a dark mood going through it. Itís actually an interesting contrast between the bright instrumentation and the darker vibes here, and the instrumentation itself is solidly interesting on its own too. It definitely feels like youíve really stepped up your game after the past two rounds, at the very least.

Final Thoughts:
Out of all the songs in this roulette so far, this is probably the most memorable and the catchiest. Obviously thatís not a bad thing in and of itself, but if whatís catchy is something annoying or unpleasant then it can make a mediocre song awful. Thatís an effect a lot of pop has, itís bad but also catchy and thus way worse than it should be.

Iím going off on a tangent for no real reason though because this song rules, actually. Thereís just something aboutÖ the goofy synth sound and the melodies, contrasted with the dark feeling the song has as a whole. It turns something bouncy and playful into something really unsettling, like itís mocking the singer in some way or another. I donít know. It works, but I canít explain quite why. And itís maddeningly catchy, but in a good way.

I like how they have multiple singers and all of them are doing something, even if the backing singers donít really sound all that great, the way they all play off each other and interact makes the vocals more interesting than they otherwise wouldíve been. And I guess the lead singer is Morse? I donít actually know but Iíd assume so. Whoever it is, they do a killer job selling the emotion of the song, both in the somber moments and the more intense moments, I dig their vocals especially. The only one who doesnít really sound so great is whichever one is panned to the right speaker and starts out each phrase, I guess. Not a huge deal, doesnít sound awful either.

Probably my favorite parts are the more straightforward and driving bits that bookend the song, that guitar line combined with that bass and those drums, it just all comes together in a really great way. Especially with how unhinged everything gets at the end of the track, drums and guitar both going off onto chaotic tangents. And the way every phrase ends with the brighter and jagged guitar line just to break things up and keep you on your toes. I dig it.

Honestly at some point this was my favorite song of the round, and I have no clue why Iíve never looked into these guys before considering Iíve known about them forever, but I probably will give them at least a listen or two following this.

8.5/10



Forgot Their Parachute

#8: Train of Naught: Projected Twin Ė You Threw the Stone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x4mCZYf3bc)

First Impressions:
It feels to me like the singer canít really hit those long notes very well. They sound a bit off and a bit drab, not even the slightest vibrato on them. Right now Iím waiting for this to really kick into full gear and Iím worried itís not actually going to do so at over halfway into the song. It builds up and finally does at almost 4 minutes in, which really does feel a bit too late. Thereís not much about this that I find myself interested in, and with how long it takes to really get going thatís not a great sign. Itís justÖ a song that exists.

Final Thoughts:
I think my problem with the song kicking in so late was only a first listen problem. I was anticipating something that seemed like it didnít want to happen, and by the time it did happen it didnít feel satisfying. But having a better grasp of the songís overall structure, itís fine the way it is. Just a little offputting on first listen.

What has not improved is the vocals, unfortunately. The singer does most of the notes just fine, but he absolutely cannot sustain those long ones. Thereís no vibrato on them and they always end up veering slightly flat. Itís weird especially because thereís light vibrato on some of the shorter ones? But the end result is that the long notes just sound grating once theyíve gone on for two or three seconds. I really canít get past that.

Musically, itís certainly solid. Itís again mixed nicely, everything comes through pretty clear. The bass doesnít really do much more than double the guitar a lot of the time but itís audible enough to hold its own weight. The drums are all-around pretty solid, they help with the build later in the track and thereís some neat stuff during the climax. The guitar lines I do like, the very dreamy main guitar melody that goes on through a lot of the song, and the riff at the end is actually quite strong, I dig it. And thereís even horns that creep in around 1:30 for a little bit, itís a nice touch.

I would definitely say that on the whole this song did grow on me, and I donít really think anything about it got worse; the vocals I wasnít much a fan of at all on first listen but by my final listen I was only really bothered by the long notes, and even then not as bothered. But bothered nonetheless. Itís just a bit too much to get past. As well, itís not like the song is anything particularly fresh or unique, just a solid song for the most part with a bit of an issue regarding the vocals. But itís hard to be too harsh on it, itís still an enjoyable track, just a bit flawed.

7/10



#7: Sacul: Nils Frahm Ė More (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH2IVFKAx9M)

First Impressions:
ďZantera / Sacul MusicĒ this definitely is. About half this song is holding on the muted sound created by that weird recording technique you mentioned, thereís a twinkly feel to it. But also a kind of stunted one. Iím not sure I like how wooden it makes everything sound Ė literally wooden, I mean. The back half has a more standard sound to it and inevitably a sound I like a lot more, itís very spacey and ethereal. This song is destined to stand out from the rest of the songs this round by sheer virtue of not being rock or metal, as well. Iím not sure Iím a huge fan but itís certainly pleasant to listen to, and easy to listen to as well.

Final Thoughts:
Honestly, Iím having trouble finding much to say about this. Itís calming, relaxing music. Music to zone out to, music Iíd honestly enjoy more in the background than as the main attraction. But when you sit me down and force me to focus on it, all that ends up happening is that my mind starts to wander while Iím listening to it. And while I generally would say that I do indeed like this I canít say I feel too strongly about it. Iíd rather be listening to Hammock. I always want to be listening to Hammock, though, so maybe thatís a bit unfair.

The first half of the song is basically just one idea played for four and a half minutes. It evolves slightly and in subtle ways, with new layers of texture coming in and out, but I can never really say it noticeably changes or moves forward in any real way. Iíve warmed up to the sound, I think it does add a nice layer of texture to the whole thing and that the first half wouldnít be as interesting as it is without it, so yeah, I guess it works in that regard. I guess though, the pacing is just too fast for me to really find this that calming, but itís certainly pleasant.

At about the halfway point the song cuts out for some melancholic piano. I like this part. It doesnít go on for too long and itís a nice melody. The piano sounds a lot more full and organic here too, which is definitely a sound I appreciate. My favorite phase of the song though is probably the ambient last few minutes, with a gorgeous, thick soundscape and some gentle piano going on under it. Thatís a sound that I really find I like. Itís relaxing.

I do find this pleasant to listen to, obviously, but it just doesnít really stand out in any way. The recording gimmick is kind of neat and unique, but the sound it creates isnít really that new, just a bit different than what youíd expect a piano track to sound like. Itís hard for me to really ďloveĒ this, though I definitely at least ďlikeĒ it. And itís probably something Iíll put on in the background at least a few more times in the future.

7.25/10
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 02:08:57 PM
Soaring Like An Eagle

#1: Scorpion: Wilderun Ė The Garden of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1DOGUgPy7c)

First Impressions:
Ahh, this is definitely the kind of growls Iím just never really a fan of. They sound reallyÖ forced is the only way Iíve ever been able to describe them. But then everything about this is pretty cool so far. The strings are a nice touch, the riffs have a lot of power and energy to them, the drumming is pretty solid. Iím not so sure this song can sustain its length, though. Halfway in and my attentionís starting to waver. And then the song goes and turns folky for a moment just to yell ďhey! pay attention!Ē at me I guess. I feel like they shouldíve played up the folky elements of this a bit more, they seem a bit too downplayed throughout most of this. Yeah, maybe Iíll warm up to this on relistens because itís still pretty cool, but I am definitely not feeling a full 9 and a half minutes of this yet.

Final Thoughts:
Okay, that intro is just dang cool, first and foremost. A cool drum fill followed up by this intense and grand sound, intense drums and guitar with strings providing a strong melody, every phrase ending with a pause to keep the song hitting you over and over again each time it starts back up. It works really well.

Thereís a lot of moments to this song, and they justÖ work, in a very nondescript way. The groovy heavy riff of the early verses, it just works. The moment when clean vocals kick in over a nicely-textured backdrop, it works. The burst of intensity that follows immediately after, it contrasts nicely and just plain works. Itís hard to really talk about stuff like this in a meaningful way other than that I like it.

And now that Iím more familiar with the track, I donít really find it that samey at all; if anything, itís a pretty diverse song that goes in a lot of different places while still reusing what it does reuse in an interesting way. The folky breakdown in the middle, it reprises the string melody from the very start, and that melody is weaved through the next heavy bits of the song too.

Probably the passage at 5:15 or so onwards is my favorite moment, some really pretty strings mixed with intense guitar and the folky plucking going on in the background, itís a really gorgeous moment. Thereís actually a lot more folky moments than I originally noticed, theyíre just downplayed a lot and not usually the center of attention; the plucked instrument they use here is present in quite a few places in the background. What instrument is it anyways, I kind of want to know but I have no clue. And when the purely folk moments do pop up, the song is sure to continue their melodies into the more explicitly metal moments of the song, everything just ends up having a great flow to it.

The end result of this all is that the song just has a ton of power and a real epic sound to it, thereís a sense of progression throughout and thereís almost always something new and interesting happening every 30 seconds or so. I donít think any of my complaints in my first impressions writeup really hold up at all anymore. the only thing I can really fault here is that I donít think I have the time to listen to this enough to really take it all in.

8.75/10



Train and Sacul are out, everyone else gets to send 2 songs for Round 4! Just make sure to adhere to the length limits.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 13, 2016, 02:15:06 PM
haha ok now post the real results
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 02:16:20 PM
the real results are your results, post them
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 13, 2016, 02:21:49 PM
Yes, I'm not out yet.
Don't know to try to send the best and the worst song or the two worst songs :corn
Seriously, I probably won't send soon, I'm not home.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 13, 2016, 02:22:05 PM
:soon:

I understand your complaints about the vocals, I personally love it because it sounds so overly dramatic. I'm not an expert on vocal techniques but I guess it's personal preference, though I wish he would make more use of vibrato on the long notes yeah, I would dig that.

Guess I won't be sending my punishment entry for losing the bet against Evermind then. It was going to be Mary Fields - Kim Jong Was Ill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBWnMfqaxm0#t=1m20s) and would surely get me kicked but I just now noticed that it was going to be a 2-song round anyway. The guitarist in the striped shirt is all kinds of awesome though.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 13, 2016, 02:39:43 PM
Wow, I mean... I'm still in? :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 02:48:26 PM
i almost cut you in favor of sacul but listening to both songs i determined i liked yours just a bit more
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 13, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
Wow, my strategy actually worked? Parama liked my song? Insane.

Yeah, I also like that it's kind of quirky but also has a darker edge. And Neal Morse is indeed the lead singer on that track. I haven't fully explored Spock's Beard yet, but I know that the first six are the ones with Neal on them. Their debut, The Light, is really quirky and has a lot of different styles kind of thrown in together (which works surprisingly well on the title track of that one), and then starting with Beware of Darkness they started moving in more of a normal prog direction as near as I can tell (I only have their first three).

And now, wow, I have to send two songs? Let's see how things go with this new challenge.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on August 13, 2016, 08:15:41 PM
 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 13, 2016, 10:11:33 PM
Wow, I mean... I'm still in? :lol
What's going on
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 13, 2016, 10:24:28 PM
it's basically an episode of the twilight zone at this point
only two people from my original roulette are left now, i just noticed

dang
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 14, 2016, 01:53:43 AM
Sent my last round.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 14, 2016, 05:57:19 AM
I don't remember if you mentioned it (and it isn't in the rules post) but are these two songs supposed to be from the same artist or not?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 14, 2016, 09:38:49 AM
They don't have to be related songs in any way.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 14, 2016, 09:51:56 AM
I will send tomorrow. I really didn't expect to make it to this round so I didn't have songs prepared. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 14, 2016, 09:45:34 PM
only have one person's songs atm, no real rush but i'd like to have everything by tomorrow evening or tuesday at the absolute latest
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 14, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
Sent. I'm definitely out this time, I've pushed the envelope too far.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 15, 2016, 11:40:00 AM
Quote
1.   The player who sends the worst overall song.
2.   The player whose higher-ranking song scores the worst.
3.   If these are both the same person, the player who sent the second worst higher-ranking song will be eliminated.

I just love how Parama predicted my result in this round in the very first post! :lol

Sending in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 15, 2016, 11:42:49 AM
You're predicting your elimination since round 1. I don't believe you. 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 15, 2016, 11:51:47 AM
To be honest, I just wanted to get into Round 4 so I could send two power metal songs instead of one. I'm definitely going out this time.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 15, 2016, 11:54:23 AM
I'm the least confident about this round tbh. But you never know.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 15, 2016, 12:10:26 PM
Went ahead and sent my two best songs that aren't banned and aren't things that I'm 80% sure Parama won't like.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 15, 2016, 03:33:23 PM
Iím almost wondering if the songís length works in its favor to some extent, as itíd be exponentially more repetitive if it were twice as long and Iíd probably get tired of it, but at under 3 minutes itís kept concise and relistenable, even if Iím slightly bothered by the lyrics.

I also think the short length works in it's favor, I can't really imagine this song being longer without getting boringish, eventhough I can't get enough of the "epic" part.

And is apparently djent, according to Evermind.
:o

I'll send tomorrow morning, sorry for the delay
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 15, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
oh man yeah you probably don't know the injoke of evermind and what he thinks djent is  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 15, 2016, 08:52:23 PM
oh and if home sends me something before i sleep tonight or if i have enough time to listen tomorrow morning then i'll have some juicy first impressions and hangmanen for you all

EDIT: ok didn't get around to listening to two of the songs i already have anyways so impressions and hangmanen will be tuesday night sorry  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 16, 2016, 05:32:48 AM
oh man yeah you probably don't know the injoke of evermind and what he thinks djent is  :corn
Nope, but I am curious now...

Sent two instrumental songs  :hat
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 16, 2016, 05:37:10 AM
Tyrias: Biffy Clyro Ė Stinginí Belle

First thought: this is damn heavy. This riff is so pounding, and I guess itís djenty too? I donít actually know how exactly djent sounds, but if I hear the weird riff and dislike it, I assume itís djent, sorry.

...


3/10
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 16, 2016, 05:50:01 AM
Tyrias: Biffy Clyro Ė Stinginí Belle

First thought: this is damn heavy. This riff is so pounding, and I guess itís djenty too? I donít actually know how exactly djent sounds, but if I hear the weird riff and dislike it, I assume itís djent, sorry.

...


3/10
:rollin Well it's a pretty low rif with only two powerchords... That's a ridicolous low score though  :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 16, 2016, 06:04:11 AM
Yeah, I mean even Native Construct song got 3.5.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Elite on August 16, 2016, 06:10:36 AM
Sent this track: https://youtu.be/MNyG-xu-7SQ
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 16, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
Round 4 First Impressions

I get that the focus of this is definitely meant to be the vocals, and yeah, the singer sounds pretty good, but everything else here is just not working for me.

Sure takes its time kicking in for real but I donít mind the atmospheric intro anyways so itís all good.

Yeah, considering this climax they are pretty much wearing their influences on their sleeve, but I donít really mind, itís a nice and beautiful climax with enough power behind it to feel satisfying.

I have no clue how to feel about this, actually. Thereís a nice 6/8 feel to this and the melodies are alright but not really gripping me.

This is definitely hitting all the right points with me for this kind of music; atmospheric and gorgeous and easy to get lost in.

Itís definitely a technical whirlwind but they have enough intelligence to break things up with some more chill moments every now and then.

This is probably the first song of the roulette that just feels like a bit much, and itís not even that wacky or weird, or even really that long, justÖ too much.

But at the same time, without all the lead playing, this song would probably be really boring, the actual metal on display here is not that impressive.

I donít know, on first listen this sound both a bit sparse and a bit played out. And the mixing really isnít helping matters.

My impressions from the intro: ďwhat the hell is thisĒ. And then it kicks in for real and Iím like ďoh. thatís what this is.Ē

It doesnít really feel like it ever hits any sort of climax, just that it builds to something and then ends.

I think I like the vocals, but Iím not so sure they fit in with the style of music here. It sounds like he should be singing over Iron Maiden-style heavy metal, not what this actually is.

Elite why

Overall: Honestly not feeling a lot of these songs on first listen, there's some good stuff here and a few songs I feel will be growers but there's also several songs from multiple people that just aren't doing much for me at all, or even actively turning me away. We'll see how this turns out, I guess  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 3 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 16, 2016, 08:57:39 PM
Round 4 Hangman!!!

???: ___ ______ - ______
???: ____ ______ __________ - _______ _______
???: ___ _____ ________ - _____
???: ________ - ______ ___
???: ______ __________ - _______
???: ______ ____ - _____ _____
???: _______ _____ - _ _____ ____ __ _____ ___ ____
???: ___ ______ _____ - _____ __ _______
???: _______ _____ - _____________ _________
???: _____________ - ___ ___________
???: _____ ________ - _____ __ ____
???: __________ - ______ _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 16, 2016, 09:43:58 PM
I donít know, on first listen this sound both a bit sparse and a bit played out. And the mixing really isnít helping matters.

It doesnít really feel like it ever hits any sort of climax, just that it builds to something and then ends.
All potentially mine.


Give me all the D's.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 16, 2016, 09:53:00 PM
Bolsters waits D.

Letters guessed so far:
3

???: ___ ______ - ______
???: ____ ______ __________ - _______ D______
???: ___ _____ ________ - _____
???: ________ - ______ ___
???: ______ __________ - ___d___
???: ______ ____ - _____ _____
???: ____d__ ____d - _ _____ ____ __ _____ __d D___
???: ___ ______ _____ - _____ __ _______
???: _d_____ _____ - _____________ D________
???: _____________ - D__ ___d_______
???: ____d ____d___ - _____ __ ____
???: ______d___ - ______ _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 16, 2016, 09:59:18 PM
M
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 16, 2016, 10:00:42 PM
425 waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.

Letters guessed so far:
DM

???: ___ ______ - ______
???: ____ ______ __________ - _______ D_m____
???: ___ __m__ ________ - _____
???: ________ - ______ ___
???: ______ __m_______ - ___d___
???: ______ ____ - _____ _____
???: ____d__ ____d - _ _____ ____ __ _____ __d D___
???: ___ ______ _____ - _____ __ _______
???: _d_____ _____ - _____________ D___m____
???: _____________ - D__ ___d_______
???: ____d ____d___ - _____ __ __m_
???: ___m__d___ - _m____ _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on August 17, 2016, 12:23:15 AM
I'll take the T.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
425 waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMT

???: T__ __t___ - ______
???: ____ ______ __________ - _____t_ D_m____
???: T__ __m__ ___t___t - ____t
???: ________ - ______ ___
???: __t___ T_m_t_t___ - ___d___
???: ____t_ ____ - _____ _____
???: ____d__ ____d - _ _____ ____ __ _t___ __d D__t
???: T__ ______ _____ - T____ t_ _______
???: _d_____ _____ - __t____t_____ D___m___t
???: ___________tt - D__ ___d__t_t__
???: ____d ____d___ - _____ __ T_m_
???: ___m__d___ - _m____ _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 17, 2016, 01:53:28 AM
E
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 17, 2016, 05:10:24 AM

Itís definitely a technical whirlwind but they have enough intelligence to break things up with some more chill moments every now and then.

My impressions from the intro: ďwhat the hell is thisĒ. And then it kicks in for real and Iím like ďoh. thatís what this is.Ē


These two could be about the songs I sent  ::)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Elite on August 17, 2016, 07:01:03 AM
Elite why

This one's mine
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 17, 2016, 07:07:23 AM
Are you sure? It's quite ambiguous.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Elite on August 17, 2016, 07:10:36 AM
The Human Abstract - Faust

Probably sent by Scorpion.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 17, 2016, 07:19:58 AM
Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 17, 2016, 09:08:18 AM
Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 09:10:36 AM
Luoto waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.
425 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTE

???: T_e __t_e__ - _____e
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - ______ ___
???: __t___ Tem_t_t___ - ___d_e_
???: ____t_ ____ - _e___ _____
???: ____d__ ____d - _ ____e ____ __ _t__e __d D__t
???: T_e ____e_ _____ - T____ t_ ____e_e
???: _de____ _____ - __te___t_____ D_e_m_e_t
???: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
???: ____d ____d___ - __ee_ __ T_me
???: ___m__d___ - Em___e _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 17, 2016, 09:13:39 AM
J
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 09:14:32 AM
taste the sweet breath of failure, as there are no J's
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 17, 2016, 09:21:00 AM
taste the sweet breath of failure, as there are no J's
:emo:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 17, 2016, 09:36:21 AM
There's Within Temptation though.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 09:40:46 AM
that is a factual truth that is correct
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 17, 2016, 09:51:32 AM
The song is Caged
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 10:20:08 AM
loud blaring buzzer signifying that you are incorrect
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 17, 2016, 10:24:45 AM
whoops, is it candles?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 17, 2016, 10:31:49 AM
The song is Caged

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion it's Caged, really. :lol

But yeah, probably Candles.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 17, 2016, 10:49:32 AM
In fact, screw that.

Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust

O
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
maybe I'll give you the C anyways, but yes
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 17, 2016, 11:34:42 AM
You should update it as soon as possible because I've half a mind to change it to H now. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 17, 2016, 11:36:22 AM
The song is Caged

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion it's Caged, really. :lol


Well I didn't look very well cause it doesn't even fit closely  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 11:41:02 AM
as soon as possible is in about 7 hours so go ahead
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 17, 2016, 11:46:40 AM
I'll stick with O.

Also, I googled it, but

Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 06:57:35 PM
Evermind waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
Luoto waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJO

???: T_e __t_e__ - _____e
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _o__o_ _o_
???: Within Temptation - Candles
???: ____t_ ____ - _e___ _____
???: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
???: T_e _o__e_ _____ - T____ to _o__e_e
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
???: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
???: ____d ____d___ - __ee_ o_ T_me
???: ___mo_d___ - Em___e _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 17, 2016, 06:59:20 PM
You suffer, but...

Y
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 07:00:19 PM
Sacul waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJOY

???: T_e __t_e__ - _____e
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _o__o_ Yo_
???: Within Temptation - Candles
???: ____ty ____ - _e___ _____
???: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
???: T_e _o__e_ _____ - T____ to _o__e_e
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
???: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
???: ____d ____d___ - __ee_ o_ T_me
???: ___mo_d___ - Em___e _____
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 17, 2016, 07:02:57 PM
Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time

Evermind, welcome to the group of losers
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 07:16:20 PM
yes, yright yon yboth yaccounts ybut ycan you yguess ya yletter ytoo
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 17, 2016, 08:25:35 PM
U
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 08:43:26 PM
425 waits 3.
Sacul waits 2.
Evermind waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJOYU

???: T_e __t_e__ - _____e
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _o__o_ You
???: Within Temptation - Candles
???: _u__ty ____ - _e___ _____
???: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
???: T_e _o__e_ _____ - T____ to _o__e_e
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
???: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
Evermind: Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time
???: ___mo_d___ - Em___e _____

nice job
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 17, 2016, 09:52:38 PM
Caladan Brood wasn't banned? :(
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 17, 2016, 09:55:31 PM
i think i listened to the album like once a year ago and barely remembered it so i didn't ban them no

there's like 5 bands this round i've heard at least a song or two from before tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 17, 2016, 10:36:42 PM
Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time

Evermind, welcome to the group of losers

Well, I did say I'll be sending power metal, after all.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 18, 2016, 01:33:24 AM
Caladan Brood = Scorpion?

Also:  K
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 18, 2016, 01:37:10 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
425 waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJOYUK

???: T_e __t_e__ - _____e
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _o__o_ You
???: Within Temptation - Candles
???: _u__ty ____ - _e___ _____
Scorpion: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
???: T_e _o__e_ K____ - T____ to _o__e_e
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
???: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
Evermind: Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time
???: ___mo_d___ - Em___e _____

k
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 18, 2016, 08:44:04 AM
One band is Purity Ring?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 18, 2016, 09:08:59 AM
as it is said, so it is
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 18, 2016, 09:11:14 AM
Purity Ring seems like a poor choice for a Parama roulette.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 18, 2016, 09:15:23 AM
Never heard of them :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 18, 2016, 09:39:28 AM
Purity Ring seems like a poor choice for a Parama roulette.
to be fair, running this roulette was a poor choice on my end, so it's thematically appropriate
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 18, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
The Flower Kings - Train to Nowhere

A
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 18, 2016, 08:36:46 PM
Luoto waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
425 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJOYUKA

???: T_e A_t_e__ - _a_a_e
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _o__o_ You
???: Within Temptation - Candles
???: Purity Ring - _e___ A_a__
Scorpion: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
???: The Flower Kings - Train to Nowhere
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
???: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
Evermind: Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time
???: ___mo_d_a_ - Em___e _a___
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 18, 2016, 09:27:17 PM
Q
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 18, 2016, 09:28:14 PM
Q are gonna have to guess a different letter
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 18, 2016, 09:30:20 PM
The Antlers

Primordial
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 18, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
yeah, yeah
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 19, 2016, 08:01:36 AM
Results when
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 19, 2016, 08:36:14 AM
saturday or sunday. basically don't expect them earlier than 4-5 days from when i post first impressions, this is going to stay consistent
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 19, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
just did preliminary rankings, looking at who's on line for elimination this round... very  :corn

it is also possible that the edge case of "same person sent the worst and best songs of the round" is going to be hit  :lol
this is actually the case in my preliminary ranking and miiight change when i do writeups but who knows?
(on top of that, #2 and #11 are the same person, which means at least two of you had an incredibly inconsistent round)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 20, 2016, 01:22:23 AM
Thats's not me because no way any of my songs are #1 or #2 :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 20, 2016, 02:48:34 AM
Primordial

Empire Falls?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 20, 2016, 02:56:52 AM
The Antlers - Palace
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 20, 2016, 05:26:01 AM
it is also possible that the edge case of "same person sent the worst and best songs of the round" is going to be hit  :lol
My bad.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 20, 2016, 11:54:28 PM
Luoto waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
425 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJOYUKA

???: The Antlers - Palace
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _o__o_ You
???: Within Temptation - Candles
???: Purity Ring - _e___ A_a__
Scorpion: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
???: The Flower Kings - Train to Nowhere
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
???: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
Evermind: Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time
???: Primordial - Empire Falls

nobody guessing who sent what but you'll find out tomorrow.
i've done 11 of 12 writes at time of writing and don't really feel like tackling the last one tonight, then I have to go and relisten to a few of the songs (namely; #1 and #2, #6 and #7, and #11 and #12) to pick between them and determine who is getting cut for certain. should be fun times.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 21, 2016, 01:56:12 AM
The Antlers: Tomislav :corn
Within Temptation: Evermind :corn
Panzerballett: home :corn (didn't I say this already)
Train to Nowhere: 425 :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 01:59:04 AM
Luoto waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
425 waits 1.

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJOYUKA

Tomislav95: The Antlers - Palace
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _o__o_ You
Evermind: Within Temptation - Candles
???: Purity Ring - _e___ A_a__
Scorpion: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
425: The Flower Kings - Train to Nowhere
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
home: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
Evermind: Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time
???: Primordial - Empire Falls

you didn't say it already
______e_ - _o__o_ You is gonna go unguessed at this rate
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 21, 2016, 02:00:44 AM
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Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
who cares about the waiting at this point

Letters guessed so far:
DMTEJOYUKAL

Tomislav95: The Antlers - Palace
???: Pure Reason Revolution - Bullits Dominae
Scorpion: The Human Abstract - Faust
???: ______e_ - _ollo_ You
Evermind: Within Temptation - Candles
???: Purity Ring - _e___ A_a__
Scorpion: Caladan Brood - A Voice Born of Stone and Dust
425: The Flower Kings - Train to Nowhere
???: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat
home: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator
Evermind: Blind Guardian - Wheel of Time
???: Primordial - Empire Falls
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 21, 2016, 10:29:21 AM
Well, it's obviously Follow You but I have no idea about the band.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 21, 2016, 12:22:08 PM
R
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 21, 2016, 12:24:25 PM
R for results.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 03:07:38 PM
Trudging Through the Valley

#11: home: Adebisi Shank - International Dreambeat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tt8PIg5yBE)

First Impressions:
My impressions from the intro: ďwhat the hell is thisĒ. And then it kicks in for real and Iím like ďoh. thatís what this is.Ē Itís alternating between the heavier bits and the synth-driven quieter bits and I absolutely prefer the heavier bits, by a pretty big margin actually. Though thereís some horn stuff that comes in a bit later that I think is pretty alright at least. ItísÖ a fun song, which is something I always have to tread lightly around because a lot of the time ďfunĒ music doesnít really do a lot for me. And Iím not really feeling this one on first listen, but it may grow on me.

Final Thoughts:
Okay, actually, I simply canít stand the synth-driven bits of this after more relistens. That toneÖ itís awful, I legitimately do not understand the appeal of it. Itís like nails on a chalkboard to me, I absolutely do not want to listen to it at all. Thereís some okay stuff going on behind it at points, sure. Some of the guitar stuff is cool and the horns that come in in the back half of the song are nice, though. That noodly synth fill that transitions the song to louder moments is also nice.

The loud parts of the song are solid, but never really change. Itís the same thing every time melody and rhythms, maybe a slightly changing drum line but itís not a world of difference. Thereís a nice energy to it though and itís bright and fun. I donít mind it but it doesnít have huge appeal for me either.

I just overall canít really say this song is for me though. About half of it has that annoying synth thing going on throughout it and it maintains a consistent fun, bouncy vibe that is usually not really my thing, and doesnít quite work for me here. I donít hate this, thereís about half the song I like and a few moments that are pretty cool, but overall it definitely doesnít work for me.

5.25/10



#10: Scorpion: The Human Abstract Ė Faust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz8gAmfRXOY)

First Impressions:
I vaguely remember these guys too, I think I listened to their first album once or twice? This is basically what I expected, somewhere between prog metal and metalcore. Canít say Iím a huge fan of this style of harsh vocals but it doesnít sound awful, at least. Thereís a good bit of noodly guitar stuff going on here and itís all fine and melodic but Iím kind of not really feeling the point of a lot of it. But at the same time, without all the lead playing, this song would probably be really boring, the actual metal on display here is not that impressive. Itís a solid song with enough twists and turns to at least be interesting but itís not that unique and itís not that exciting, either.

Final Thoughts:
I donít mean this as an insult or anything but, to me, this sounds like djent if djent replaced the djenty parts with noodly lead melodies. I mean I know thatís a thing some djent already does but these guys, they just donít do much beyond noodly leads, like, at all. Or at least it certainly feels that way. And thereís certainly a place for noodly leads, but when theyíre your entire song, they kind of lose both the ďwow that sounds coolĒ factor and the ďwow thatís impressiveĒ factor, which are about the only two reasons why youíd ever use them.

Vocals, hmm. Theyíre okay. The growls are fairly generic but serviceable, the cleans are a lower-pitched post-hardcore style of thing. Post-hardcore is probably what these guys fit into more than anything else, I guess, somewhere between that and metalcore with guitar leads all over the place for good measure. I canít really say any band sounds like them, but I can say that they sound like quite a lot of other bands; theyíre unique, but nothing theyíre doing is particularly unique.

Some of the guitar stuff is just overly simplistic too. I wrote some music like 5-6 years ago that used leads exactly like this. Very basic 0-2-4 sweeps that sound very by-the-numbers. It sounds cool when you first discover in but when you realize how melodically dull it is it just stops having any impact.

And thatís this song as a whole. This song just has no impact for me. I donít find any of it particularly memorable, I donít find the melodies moving, I donít find the riffs crushing. The song doesnít have a very strong sense of energy to it either, it feels like the song wants to be more energetic than it is but it stays at a lumbering pace the entire way through and just ends up feeling sluggish. The closest thing to anything interesting happening in this song is the carnival bit about 2/3rds through but Iíve heard other bands do carnival bits plenty of times now and even that doesnít sound very fresh anymore.

I feel like Iím being pretty down on a song that is, for all intents and purposes, ďfineĒ, but it doesnít strike a chord with me in any real way and doesnít stick with me at all. Even 5 listens later I can barely remember what any of this sounds like. Itís just running on a ďehh, itís okayĒ feeling the whole way through.

6.25/10



#9: Evermind: Within Temptation Ė Candles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Lk_D92xYM)

First Impressions:
The video I linked is a live performance because nothing else was on youtube, but the Evermind sent me a link to the album version so itís all good. Actually really liking that quiet synth blending into the somber atmosphere of the intro. At least I think itís a synth. It could also be a bass? I have no clue. Actually itís probably a bass. I like it. Sure takes its time kicking in for real but I donít mind the atmospheric intro anyways so itís all good. When did you become such a big fan of the growls anyways. The guitar riffs here are kind of standard basic stuff but theyíre effective enough, sure. Piano sounds a bit stiff though. The big ďclimax at the end of the songĒ doesnít strike me as very dissimilar from what they did before either but itís solid. A solid song.

Final Thoughts:
Iím sitting here listening to this song and findingÖ I donít really have much to say about this that I didnít already in my first impression, I think. Uuhh. The vocals are pretty solid. The female singer sounds nice but doesnít really have a unique voice either. The choir vocals in the intro create some nice atmosphere. The harsh vocals are passable. Not great, they sound a bit forced, but alright.

The piano that transitions the song from light to heavy is a bit meh. Itís not a very compelling piano line and the tone of it feels a bit stiff. It sounds a bit better when the heavier instrumentation comes in to back it but I still wish it wasnít given center stage like it seems to be getting. The buildup from light to heavy is otherwise handled pretty well though. The driving guitar riffs help with that a lot.

I guess, what the climax of the song does that they didnít do earlier; first, bury the piano a bit more, which I approve of, second, add some female vocals going on in the background when sheís not taking the lead, which is nice, and third, the production turned to crap suddenly, it sounds really compressed and muddy which hurts the power a little bit, but it still sounds pretty fine.

I thinkÖ I wouldíve liked this more without that piano, honestly, it just doesnít sound good and isnít doing anything particularly interesting. Even then while itís a solid song itís not one that particularly catches my interest either. Quiet bit, loud bit, quiet bit, loud bit. Very basic elements arranged in a way that is lacking a bit of a sense of progression, the last few minutes sort of feel redundant because of how little new they do. But itís pleasant to listen to, I probably wouldnít turn it off. Probably wouldnít come back to it either, though.

Itís a very ďthereĒ kind of song. Ehh.

6.75/10



#8: 425: The Flower Kings Ė Train to Nowhere (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bjaOgUqSjc)

First Impressions:
Iíve known about these guys forever but never actually listened to them, I think. That seems to be standard regarding a lot of prog rock bands apparently. They are definitely, absolutely going for Pink Floyd here, thatís pretty obvious. The vocals sound kinda like late-era Roger Waters, the synths and guitar leads evoke the same atmosphere as well. Really digging that melodic bassline when it comes in. This song seems pretty well-mixed, everything is coming through clearly. Yeah, considering this climax they are pretty much wearing their influences on their sleeve, but I donít really mind, itís a nice and beautiful climax with enough power behind it to feel satisfying.

Final Thoughts:
Okay, well, for one, the vocalist is definitely no Roger Waters. He sounds like, really old. No offense. I have no clue how old he is, I was too lazy to look it up, but he sounds like heís in his 50ís or 60ís. Just an observation. It certainly doesnít sound as smooth or powerful as a younger-sounding voice would be. Beyond that though, the vocals are fine, and they better be since theyíre definitely the main selling point of the song.

The rest of the music is just a backdrop for the vocals, but one that accompanies them well and all comes together well. The synths and the strings provide a warm flavor to the track, the bass and drums are restrained but driving, and the piano and guitar leads provide some nice melodic flourishes. The song builds up basically the whole way through and does so slowly enough to feel natural and flowing.

Itís basically just two verses and two choruses with the last chorus being extended, really basic structure, but thereís enough evolution between the two to make it all work well enough. The extra layers of vocals, the wailing guitar leads, and especially the wall of organ and strings on the climax, it creates the power the song needs to end on. And thereís a brief cooldown afterwards to keep it from ending too abruptly, as well.

I donít really know what else to say here. Itís solid on all fronts. Itís not especially memorable or unique, but it knows what it wants to do and does it well enough that I donít really mind if itís nothing too special. Just a pleasant song.

7.25/10



The Bottom Rung

#12: Bolsters: CHVRCHES Ė Follow You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ieASpHKfbs)

First Impressions:
I know this album was pretty popular and all last year but seeing as itís synthpop, yeah, never gave it a listen. Right away Iím finding that Iím not a fan of the electronic percussion here, especially the bass; itís just such a limp, wooden sound. Never a fan of that kind of sound. Uhh. The vocals are pretty solid and thereís decent atmosphere. It is what it is. It doesnít really feel like it ever hits any sort of climax, just that it builds to something and then ends. Itís kind of a non-entity of a song for me, to be honest, it doesnít really stand out amongst the many similar-sounding songs Iíve heard, but itís pleasant enough to listen to, at the very least.

Final Thoughts:
Someone really needs to explain to me what the appeal of the percussion sound like this song has is. I donít get it. Why would you intentionally make your percussion sound this awful and lifeless, downright robotic and dry. The bass sounds like someone tapping on a desk really loudly. I know theyíre fully capable of picking a better bass sound. I know theyíre not limited by their tools here. Itís like that by choice and I just canít comprehend why. Ehh, whatever though.

About the rest. Ehh, itís fine. It never really grabbed me in any real way. The vocals areÖ fine. They donít really have much presence to them though, or anything that really makes them stand out. They sound fine, and thatís the end of it. Musically itís okay, aside from the percussion. Thereís a lot of bassy and textured synths going on throughout to build a nice atmosphere throughout, butÖ it never builds to anything. The song does not ever reach any sort of peak and it ends incredibly unceremoniously right before it shouldíve kicked into full gear. Even mellow pop songs usually hit some kind of emotional climax, but itís just not here.

Other things I mildly dislike are that vocal-y sounding synth that pops up in the chorus, canít say Iím really a huge fan of it. Uhh. Actually, I guess thatís it. Like Azedia two rounds ago thereís not much to this song. Two verses and two choruses. This doesnít even have the climax that one at least had. It sounds nice but itís forgettable and basically devoid of any real substance, honestly. I canít find much about this that appeals to me in any real way.

4.5/10



Pushing For Glory

#5: Tomislav95: Primordial Ė Empire Falls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxPSygSH2v0)

First Impressions:
I think I like the vocals, but Iím not so sure they fit in with the style of music here. It sounds like he should be singing over Iron Maiden-style heavy metal, not what this actually is. That is to say; the vocals are pretty powerful but feel detached from the music. I donít know. On the subject of the music itselfÖ yeah, itís fine. I might be getting a little burnt out on folky black metal like this, Moonsorrow I did enjoy but it hasnít really stuck with me at all, just enjoyable music. This isnít really too dissimilar from Moonsorrow; some cool riffs and a folky undertone throughout while still keeping a distinctly black metal feel. And itís absolutely fine for what it is, but not particularly unique outside of the vocals.

Final Thoughts:
At the end of the day, the vocals are mostly justÖ different than the norm. They sound just fine, theyíre just different. After getting used to them, they donít sound that out of place here. Thereís an edge to them most of the time that fits in with the black metal aesthetic well enough.

The production on this is pretty solid too. A little muddy as most black metal tends to be but not quality-destroying or anything, it just gives the song a rougher sound that tends to work well. The guitar, drums, and vocals all come through clearly enough.

The music on this is pretty fine, too. The drums do well to keep a driving mood going throughout while still doing enough to remain interesting regardless, lots of small fills and variations. The guitar work varies between some rockiní riffs and some fairly hypnotic melodies; nothing thatís all too unique for the genre, but just executed well enough to be enjoyable. Itís nothing for me to get especially excited about, but itís enjoyable on a base level. Like, the same level that people enjoy hard rock and heavy metal, even when a lot of it sounds the same.

I guess thatís me with regards to vaguely folky black metal with a rockiní edge to it like this has, like Moonsorrow has. I just enjoy it on a pretty basic level, regardless of whether or not it really stands out. Thereís just a nice groove to the song that keeps itself going start to finish without ever really needing to stop and take a break, it flows well and passes a lot faster than youíd think it would. I just like it. I donít love it, I donít know if Iíd seek out an entire album of this, but maybe.

7.75/10
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 03:10:30 PM
Running Through the Mountains

#6: Evermind: Blind Guardian Ė Wheel of Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNnhhejBkW8)

First Impressions:
Well, yeah, this pretty quickly takes a turn for the cheesy. But in a cool way? The singer is good, he sells it. The middle-eastern influences in the melodies are pretty obviously apparent. At least I think thatís middle-eastern. I could be completely wrong and look the fool. Itís some kind of folk to me, good enough. It feels like itís going to stick to doing the same general thing, just in slightly different ways, though. At least, thatís how it sounds thus far. I sort of wish this song would stop to take a breath at some point, itís just ďgo go go power and energy and grandnessĒ and it doesnít want to let up at all. Well, okay, I guess it finally made it there at the 5 minute mark. The percussion is still kind of high energy but I think it works in context, itís still relatively chill in comparison with the rest of the song. I kind of ran out of things to say after that. This is probably the first song of the roulette that just feels like a bit much, and itís not even that wacky or weird, or even really that long, justÖ too much.

Final Thoughts:
This song is a song where about 75% of the song is the climax of the song. There are very few parts of this song that donít sound like theyíre trying to be the biggest, grandest part of the song. This is pretty much why the song exhausted me on first listen. Most of the song is turned up to 11, which leaves very little room for the listener to breathe. Maybe this is just what people who really enjoy power metal like, I have no clue.

I really think the orchestral elements and choir vocals and everything else that makes the song continuously sound like itís so grand and epic shouldíve been used more sparingly. I think it wouldíve made the parts with the orchestral bits hit with more punch and power. Because as it stands, with most of the song trying to be ďthe big epic partĒ, none of it ends up standing out. I guess the chorus where they sing the title of the song is a bit more noticeable.

The quiet break ends up being my favorite part of the song because itís more subtle than the rest of the song and really piles on the folk sound strongly. Thereís a sense of tension here, and the song actually has something to build to as a result. When the big guitar chords and horns and stuff kick in they actually hold power, itís actually effective. When they get back to the chorus, itís after a satisfying build up and it hits harder than before because itís not surrounded by moments trying to be as huge and powerful as the chorus was.

Iím basically just diagnosing why the song feels fundamentally broken to me here, I guess. Itís a bit trivial because at the end of the day, even with its problems, it still ends up being a generally enjoyable track. I pretty much enjoy the entirety of the last four minutes of the song, and the intro build is pretty cool, I just wish that nearly half the song wasnít one long chunk of in-your-face metal and orchestra swell and intense energy.

7.5/10



#4: 425: Pure Reason Revolution Ė Bullits Dominae (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxTwa3TTHNA)

First Impressions:
Iíve seen this one thrown around a lot, and I had a song from these guys in my first roulette that was pretty okay, so letís see how this goes, sure. As this is going on, Iím findingÖ hmm. I have no clue how to feel about this, actually. Thereís a nice 6/8 feel to this and the melodies are alright but not really gripping me. When the song really kicks in about halfway through though I find it a bit more interesting. Much like Goshenís Remains though this song just doesnít really grab me in any way, or at least not on first listen, and I just find itÖ nice, solid, plenty listenable, but kind of forgettable. Maybe it will grow on me though, who knows.

Final Thoughts:
This is definitely a song that basically rides on its vocal melodies and little else. Theyíre definitely the most interesting thing about this. Both the male and female vocals, though the former seems to get more of the spotlight, doing the verses solo, and most of the prechorus, and both voices on the chorus though the female vocals definitely have a larger presence here. I can definitely say this one grew on me though, those vocal lines are pretty catchy.

The musical background is basically just setting the stage for the vocals, and itís a job done pretty well. The song has a really good sense of build, starting out plodding and calm, and gradually escalating to an intense and grand finale, and it does it so smoothly that you barely notice it happening.

I didnít really notice it the first time, too, but thereís a ton of different instruments adding to the mix here. Acoustic and electric guitar, bass, drums, of course. Piano, organ, and strings all playing some moderate role in the track, with the strings really being given a lot of weight during the louder parts of the track especially, pretty essential to the trackís climax. And there is actually a lot going on musically too, but it kind of takes a few listens for all the layers to really peel back. Thereís driving guitar lines, upbeat drums, and wailing strings all fighting with the vocals for dominance during the climax, for example. It works well.

Wonít be going out and preaching to the masses that itís the best song ever or anything, sure, but yeah, this was definitely a satisfying grower and leaves a much better impression with me than Goshenís Remains. Itís certainly a satisfying listen. Not especially unique, but does what it wants to do and does it well, canít fault it for that.

8/10



#3: home: Panzerballett - Der Saxdiktator

First Impressions:
I absolutely cannot find this online anywhere so no youtube link, sadly. Oh yeah, this is that jazz-metal thingy isnít it. I legitimately enjoyed the first 10 seconds of this more than the entirety of the other song you sent. Theyíre definitely not lying about the saxophone, to be certain. Always appreciate that in my metal. Itís definitely a technical whirlwind but they have enough intelligence to break things up with some more chill moments every now and then. They play up both the metal and jazz elements to a fair degree, though it sort of sounds a bit too clean to really have a ton of power. But I certainly enjoy listening to this, or at least I do on first listen.

Final Thoughts:
Iím finding that my biggest problem with this is that the main motif that keeps popping up throughout the songÖ isnít very appeal. It sounds off-rhythm and seasick. Like legitimately, feels like itís off the beat of the song. It just doesnít hold much appeal to me, regardless. And considering how much the motif pops up throughout the song I would consider that a bit of a problem.

On a technical level this is definitely a pretty satisfying song, too. The drums and bass both provide a solid and interesting backdrop for the rest of the instruments and theyíre both plenty interesting even taken on their own. Thereís guitars providing some ominous melodies in the quieter moments and some crunchy riffs during the heavier parts. Some parts of the song also give off a definitely djenty feel too, but not really in a bad way? Itís kind of jagged but it feels like it works because thereís no straight rhythms to keep the jaggedness feeling forced, it just flows.

And of course you have the saxophone and horns and lead guitars and whatever else showing off throughout a lot of this but not just in a ďplaying solos everywhereĒ kind of way. Thereís a lot of moments of harmonization and texture. Especially in the middle where the lead instruments all chill together and let the rhythm elements take the foreground. It never really feels too showboaty or over the top.

I will say that this song definitely feels like itís lacking some kind of hook to really draw me in and keep me interested; but this may just be because Iím not a huge fan of the main motif thatís supposed to serve as the hook here. And it can be a bit hard to tell parts of this song apart, itís just a long string of ideas that never really shift too wildly but  things keep getting done in different enough ways to not bore me either.

It really feels like a case of a song needing more listens to really sink in for me, because Iím not quite sure Iím sold on it yet, but I still do enjoy this a good bit regardless. It definitely has a strong jazz aesthetic going on without just simply sounding like ďjazz, but louderĒ. Iíd definitely be interested in checking out more from these guys at the very least.

Except I canít freaking find any songs on this album online anywhere, so, thereís that :V

8/10



#2: Bolsters: Purity Ring Ė Begin Again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjf9s5EvIfE)

First Impressions:
Begin Again is a DT song, banned. Really though this sounds even more mainstream pop to me. They could play this on the radio and it wouldnít really sound that out of place. At the same time, I probably wouldnít notice it? The main motif feels played out and kind of generic. I get that the focus of this is definitely meant to be the vocals, and yeah, the singer sounds pretty good, but everything else here is just not working for me. The watery and droning bass, the sparse percussion, the blaring synths playing the main melody. The only thing about the music that I like is the piano that creeps in at times. And yeah, the vocals are cool, I just wish they were on a different kind of song. They fit in fine here, sure, but I just donít have interest in something like this.

Final Thoughts:
Nothing about the production in this song really stands out in any way. The drums are so minimal, they serve their purpose, they build up to the chorus as the rest of the song does, just fine. The droning bass provides a solid melodic backbone but doesnít do much else. The piano sounds alive enough to have decent power to it but the melodies itís stuck playing arenít especially unique. And the synth line behind the chorus is just the same melody that the piano plays right before it.

But goddamn, do I love the singer here. I didnít, on first listen. Honestly on first listen this was my least favorite track of the entire bunch. But then I listened to it again and realized, oh dang, sheís a great singer. And the vocal melodies on this are fantastic. Like, ridiculously catchy. Especially, especially, on the ďI need not one thing moreĒ part of the verse. The slight rhythmic variations there, on top of just how natural and flowing those melodies are. Pop perfection to be honest. The prechorus/chorus is second place here, with the first half of the verses probably being the least compelling melodies by a sliiight margin, but really,

I just adore all the vocals in this song. They pretty much carry this entire song and they do it well enough that Iím not bothered at all by the production. It works, it serves its purpose, but it lets the real star of the show here shine. This songís basically up this high for the catchiness factor of it, and damn am I glad to hear a decent pop song in 2016 because have you looked at the charts this year, theyíre absolutely abysmal. Christ. Totally aware that, yes, this is a 2015 song, but itís the listening to it in 2016 part thatís important. Anyways. Yes. Good stuff. Surprisingly. Thankfully.

8.25/10




The Lowest Peak

#7: Scorpion: Caladan Brood Ė A Voice Born of Stone and Dust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv0SNi6fXoU)

First Impressions:
I think I listened to these guys once but all I remember is ďfolky black metalĒ and that describes about a dozen bands Iíve listened to so yeah, sure. I think I vaguely remember this one though because the mixing is absolutely awful? The tambourine sound is like the only part of the percussion you can really hear and the vocals seem keen on drowning out a lot of the guitar and bass. This has been rather motionless for several minutes straight at this point as well, past the synth orchestra intro. Okay, it does break for some more strings and a solid plucked melody going on. I donít know, on first listen this sound both a bit sparse and a bit played out. And the mixing really isnít helping matters.

Final Thoughts:
Oh god that tambourine. Itís not quite as bad as the Dead Can Dance song from my last roulette and its infernal beeping, but damn has the mixing really done a number on this songís potential, and the tambourine is like the driving force of the problem. Why is that the only percussion I can hear besides the snare. Why are the buzzsaw tremolo guitars completely buried in the mix. Why are the vocals this loud. I guess you can hear the bass drum at times and the guitar is audible when itís doing that palm-muted guitar thing, but. Thereís a difference between bad audio quality (which is also kind of the case here, but not enough to be distracting) and just downright being mixed wrong, constantly trying to draw the listenerís attention to the wrong things and destroying a lot of the punch the song could have had.

That being said, the hook of this song is actually pretty dang strong. An atmospheric black metal song with a discernable, catchy chorus. Who wouldíve thought. The harsh vocals sound raspy, sure, but in a way that works. They sound otherworldly and not just like a person who really needs a glass of water like Agalloch always, -always- sounds to me. They work quite well. The hook is really memorable, despite the vocals not having any melody to them. The guitar melody being drowned out helps too, the same melody as the start of the song and all.

I donít really mind how blatantly fake the orchestral elements sound because they still serve their purpose just fine. They create a nice wall of texture and play some simple but effective melodies. Thereís enough subtlety to the quieter moments and they carry enough emotional weight to be effective. Also, that bit around the 7 minute mark is just fantastic. The guitar chords with the shreddy solo buried under them. Creates a nice big epic feel, even if the guitar solo itself is pretty meaningless and generically shreddy. It works, regardless. And the drums build up a really intense climax at the end of the song too.

Like, really, once you get past the mixing and that goddamn tambourine, this is actually a pretty cool song all around. Everything else works, it just couldíve worked so much better with a little more time put into the production here. I actually poked around to see if it was just a fluke and the video I was sent just had an audio error, and, no, all the versions I could find of this basically just sound like this, so I assume it sounds like this on the album too. Which is a shame, really. I may peek at this album again but if it all has the same mixing issues Iíll probably end up skipping it. Solid song, just a bit frustrating to listen to.

7.25/10



Star in the Sky

#1: Tomislav95: The Antlers Ė Palace (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9afJSKCOQQ)

First Impressions:
Pretty shortly into this and I already like it more than Parade, the music just has more atmosphere to it. This music fits the vocals a lot more, too, especially with that reverb on his voice. This is definitely along the same song as the Goldfrapp song you sent, though a bit slower-paced and more ethereal in sound. The horns are a really nice touch too, they fit right in and give the song a really grand feel. And it builds to a satisfying climax, too. This is definitely hitting all the right points with me for this kind of music; atmospheric and gorgeous and easy to get lost in.

Final Thoughts:
What a freaking gorgeous track this is. Like damn. Right from the moment that piano line comes in, gentle and melancholic and with a great tone to it. And I just really like the horns. Itís really nice to see them used in a way that isnít just ďmake this part sound epicĒ. They have subtlety and real emotive presence, theyíre an integral part of the atmosphere here. Thereís so many different melodies going on as the song builds up, just creating a really pleasant twinkly soundscape. ItísÖ very pleasant.

The vocals arenít really that impressive on their own but they just blend in with the sound of this song so very well. Ethereal and distant, just another layer of melody to add to the mix. Theyíre plenty pleasant and they escalate as the rest of the song does; a few layers going on in the climax of the song to give them more depth, too. It works well.

I justÖ donít think thereís a lot that needs to be said about this. Itís straightforward but complex enough musically, and just, it just sounds so nice. Itís not a huge emotional gutpunch or anything but itís a well-crafted song that I enjoy quite a lot each time I listen to it.

8.5/10

So, at the end of the day... Bolsters and Scorpion are out. The rest can send me Round 5.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 21, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
Wow. I'm still in Parama's roulette? It's a miracle!

Totally not voting for myself in the poll though. :lol


This is definitely a song that basically rides on its vocal melodies and little else.

...

The rest of the music is just a backdrop for the vocals, but one that accompanies them well and all comes together well

Lol this is something I personally don't mind at all—a song can completely win me on vocal melodies alone if they're strong strong enough. I understand why not for others, though. Glad you liked both the songs at least somewhat, particularly the PRR.


Okay, well, for one, the vocalist is definitely no Roger Waters. He sounds like, really old. No offense. I have no clue how old he is, I was too lazy to look it up, but he sounds like he’s in his 50’s or 60’s. Just an observation. It certainly doesn’t sound as smooth or powerful as a younger-sounding voice would be. Beyond that though, the vocals are fine, and they better be since they’re definitely the main selling point of the song.

Lol Roine was like 38 when this album was recorded. He's in his late 50s now and still sounds pretty much the same. I guess I get how it sounds like he's old, but I'm pretty sure it's just his vocal style. It's kind of a Bob-Dylan-esque thing, IMO, though certainly not as Bob Dylan as Bob Dylan. I thought it was kind of weird at first but grew to really like it. If you captured my life on hidden camera you'd definitely find me absentmindedly doing my Roine voice.

EDIT: Parama, am I correct in saying that Round 5 (which is listed as "Round 4" in the OP) has a length limit of between 8 and 15 minutes?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 03:27:39 PM
Yeah, I fixed it.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 21, 2016, 03:46:53 PM
Yay, I'm still in! Have no idea what to send though :justjen

On The Antlers: I was seeing their albums Hospice on shit ton of lists on RYM and it was on my wishlist when Seneca sent Palace in Evermind's roulette. I liked the song and been obsessed with them (especially Hospice :hefdaddy) ever since. Familiars (album) is not really that interesting all the way through IMO but there are some great songs, Palace being one of the best.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 21, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
I'm kind of disappointed I was eliminated now, mostly because Purity Ring did pretty well. With the CHVRCHES song I thought I was trying to appeal to what I thought you'd like and I went with an unusual choice, because most of the band's music is upbeat stuff which you said doesn't do much for you. But ironically I think I probably would have done better if I'd sent a more typical CHVRCHES song because your biggest complaints about Follow You wouldn't apply. :loser:

I'll see you again in your real roulette then.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 10:03:32 PM
i actually thought up a pretty neat concept for my v2.5 but i'm going to keep it under wraps until i actually run it, whenever that is. mid-2017 or so.
also i'm sorry. pop is basically always a risk with me tbh, some songs/artists click with me and others just don't
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 21, 2016, 10:06:22 PM
Yeah I went with two risks this round because with two songs, I saw it as two opportunities to be eliminated and lost all confidence (not that I had much playing in a Parama roulette to begin with).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 10:10:49 PM
i mean, evermind made it to my top 4 so anything can happen :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 21, 2016, 10:27:36 PM
It's kind of magical that I made it to your top 4, tbh.

I think this kind of roulette has something kind of like the thing that happens in some survivors, where a song that isn't really loved, but isn't really hated either, manages to sneak through and end up rating really high.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 21, 2016, 10:36:44 PM
Hahaha, wow.

Nice to see the whiskey and cat song won the round too, I really liked it in my roulette.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 21, 2016, 10:39:32 PM
It's kind of magical that I made it to your top 4, tbh.

I think this kind of roulette has something kind of like the thing that happens in some survivors, where a song that isn't really loved, but isn't really hated either, manages to sneak through and end up rating really high.
well, i mean, you sent what i'd currently call the third best song of the roulette  :lol
but scorp sent the best so yeah. i can see what you mean.
also was that the whiskey and cat song? i forgot about that. nice.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Scorpion on August 21, 2016, 11:41:11 PM
Yeah, that went how I thought it would go tbh, especially after you said that you had heard stuff from both those bands and they didn't make an impression. Oh well. Thanks for having me anyway.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 22, 2016, 01:24:41 AM
I'm liking my chances in this roulette :) I have 3 votes and tomislav aswell so technically I'm tied for first right?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2016, 02:43:17 AM
I'm liking my chances in this roulette :) I have 3 votes and tomislav aswell so technically I'm tied for first right?
I just voted for myself :loser:
In other news, still didn't find the song to send.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 22, 2016, 10:11:54 AM
I mean, I just realized that I've sent Sonata Arctica and Blind Guardian in Parama's elimination-based roulette and I'm still in. That wasn't what I expected when I joined this one.

And since Parama set the minimum length limit for this round to 8 minutes, he just condemned himself to another solid slab of power metal right here.  :lol Sending in a few minutes!
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2016, 10:28:52 AM
I voted for myself but I think Evermind will win :corn he's unstoppable right now, providing Parama with power metal and still nailing it :P
Also, sent. I'm not too confident about this song, and this band wasn't big success any time I sent them :-\
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 22, 2016, 11:09:26 AM
I voted for myself but I think Evermind will win :corn he's unstoppable right now, providing Parama with power metal and still nailing it :P
Also, sent. I'm not too confident about this song, and this band wasn't big success any time I sent them :-\

I'm 99% sure I won't win, but I won't give you any particular reason yet. :biggrin: Also, I voted for you, too!

Sent my favourite power metal song.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 22, 2016, 11:13:56 AM
It's kind of magical that I made it to your top 4, tbh.

I think this kind of roulette has something kind of like the thing that happens in some survivors, where a song that isn't really loved, but isn't really hated either, manages to sneak through and end up rating really high.
well, i mean, you sent what i'd currently call the third best song of the roulette  :lol

True! :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 22, 2016, 12:23:46 PM
I'm preparing myself for the worst  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 22, 2016, 12:41:22 PM
Definitely a good call. Me too.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Scorpion on August 22, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
I'm rooting for Evermind or 425 to win this, just because their tastes are the furthest away from what I perceive Parama's musical taste to be and that would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 22, 2016, 01:10:50 PM
oh and I'm probably not going to do hangmanen this round I have something else in mind, only 4 songs anyways
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 22, 2016, 01:32:25 PM
So you're doing hangmanen deluxe then :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2016, 01:41:49 PM
I'm rooting for Evermind or 425 to win this, just because their tastes are the furthest away from what I perceive Parama's musical taste to be and that would be hilarious.
:emo:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 22, 2016, 01:42:56 PM
I hope me and 425 both get to the final round and then I beat him by half a point. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 22, 2016, 01:44:30 PM
I'm just rooting for a Train of Naught disciple to win it. And from those 5, 1 of them is the host, 1 of them didn't participate and 2 of them are eliminated. So my vote goes to Tomislav :metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
I'm just rooting for a Train of Naught disciple to win it. And from those 5, 1 of them is the host, 1 of them didn't participate and 2 of them are eliminated. So my vote goes to Tomislav :metal
You gave me vote because my EP will end up last in you roulette, won't it? :emo: 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Scorpion on August 22, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
I'm just rooting for a Train of Naught disciple to win it. And from those 5, 1 of them is the host, 1 of them didn't participate and 2 of them are eliminated. So my vote goes to Tomislav :metal

Who do you consider to be Train of Naught disciples?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 22, 2016, 01:51:47 PM
:emo:

I know just as much about the standings as you do

The only thing I have right now is a rough ranking of the songs and a vague idea of flow score, and songs are changing like 1 or 2 spots pretty much every listen at this point, it's really hard.

I'm just rooting for a Train of Naught disciple to win it. And from those 5, 1 of them is the host, 1 of them didn't participate and 2 of them are eliminated. So my vote goes to Tomislav :metal

Who do you consider to be Train of Naught disciples?

You, Bolsters, Tomislav, Parama, Elite
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2016, 01:56:07 PM
Yes, I understand. It looks pretty tough too rank so many songs alone and with whole EPs it's even worse. 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tyrias on August 22, 2016, 04:02:49 PM
Has there actually been a score above 9 so far in this roulette? I haven't been following that closely since I got thrown out, but it seems like no one really managed to get a home-run so far. I'm not really surprised about that, I have a pretty hard time pinning down what Parama will like myself. Still, feels like there is some potential for improvement there :lol (that, or Parama is just really strict).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 22, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
8.75 is the highest thus far.

9+ has to really click with me and tbh it's a bit hard for that to happen in a roulette format but there are some songs that could score that high here from my first roulette
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
K, it's your ride.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 22, 2016, 04:39:38 PM
that would've been like a 9.75 when I scored it and a 10 now

any of the 9.5's would've been probably at least 9.0 here. 8.75 at the very lowest.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 22, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
I hope me and 425 both get to the final round and then I beat him by half a point. :biggrin:

Tbh I kind of hope this happens too.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 23, 2016, 12:26:43 AM
last round is gonna be splent vs. train and they'll both lose because i hated every song on the ep

anyways i have 2 songs and need 2 more. would like to get them tomorrow but tbh there's no rush

they're banned.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 23, 2016, 01:29:39 PM
Guessed both snippets correctly  :hat I guess I can understand why you find the synth sound annoying, thanks again for the lengthy write ups!

Except I canít freaking find any songs on this album online anywhere, so, thereís that :V
They are on Spotify...

I am really running out of good songs to send now  :lol Sent some Stoner/Doom metal.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 23, 2016, 01:34:55 PM
I don't use Spotify  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 23, 2016, 01:36:17 PM
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn8a8Mwyz08)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 4 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 23, 2016, 01:40:34 PM
I don't use Spotify  :lol

But it is so usefull  :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 12:30:47 AM
Round 5 First Impressions

Honestly this is actually more appealing than the proggier earlier bits to me, itís very straight and to the point with actual emotional impact.

Thereís definitely a sense of scale to this song, even besides its runtime, at half its length itíd still be nailing an epic and majestic sound quite well.

Yeah, the groove of the riffs is definitely the strongest point of this for me, mostly because theyíre present through a lot of the song Ė so I like a lot of the song because of them.

The guitar work on this song is pretty colorful throughout and easily the most enjoyable aspect of this song for me.

Overall: Yeah, I liked all four of these. No further comment.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 12:33:11 AM
And I hoped someone would screw up. Looks like this will be my final round then.

Where's our hangmanen deluxe though?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 12:33:50 AM
Round 5... Hangman?!?

Actually, nah, doing something different this time.
I picked out basically random 5-second clips from each track and now you get to find the songs using them as your guide.
The file with all the clips back-to-back is here. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9d7IxfLKyorZDRYSkFReUFQNm8/view?usp=sharing)

The audio clip changes every 5 seconds on the dot, and there's 12 clips in all, 3 for each song.
Match each clip to a song title and each song title to a user, go go go.

1: ???: ???
2: ???: ???
3: ???: ???
4: ???: ???
5: ???: ???
6: ???: ???
7: ???: ???
8: ???: ???
9: ???: ???
10: ???: ???
11: ???: ???
12: ???: ???

hold your horses, evermander
also obviously don't guess the clips from your own song, unless you really want to
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 12:39:00 AM
I only recognized mine. 425 is going to guess them in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 24, 2016, 12:40:29 AM
1/5/11 = Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 12:41:50 AM
Oh, right. I thought it sounds familiar. That's probably 425.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 24, 2016, 12:42:40 AM
Did you send the Jorn song?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 12:44:31 AM
The one with Jorn on vocals is mine, yeah.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 12:49:03 AM
Clips. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9d7IxfLKyorZDRYSkFReUFQNm8/view?usp=sharing)

1: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
2: ???: ???
3: ???: ???
4: ???: ???
5: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
6: ???: ???
7: ???: ???
8: ???: ???
9: ???: ???
10: ???: ???
11: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
12: ???: ???

well that was quick  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 24, 2016, 12:51:39 AM
Avantasia - The Scarecrow. I knew it'd come to me eventually. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 12:53:00 AM
yeah, but which ones  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on August 24, 2016, 12:55:37 AM
3/6/12
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 12:59:13 AM
Clips. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9d7IxfLKyorZDRYSkFReUFQNm8/view?usp=sharing)

1: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
2: ???: ???
3: Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
4: ???: ???
5: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
6: Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
7: ???: ???
8: ???: ???
9: ???: ???
10: ???: ???
11: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
12: Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 24, 2016, 01:59:47 AM
I'm surprised Evermind didn't recognize my song :huh:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 02:06:03 AM
I'm at work and I only listened to it once, so there's that.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 24, 2016, 02:09:10 AM
Oh, ok. Tbh I almost missed one part of my song :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 02:23:37 AM
Okay, got it.

Ensiferum - Heathen Throne

2, 7 and 8.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 08:36:35 AM
Clips. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9d7IxfLKyorZDRYSkFReUFQNm8/view?usp=sharing)

1: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
2: Tomislav95: Ensiferum - Heathen Throne
3: Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
4: ???: ???
5: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
6: Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
7: Tomislav95: Ensiferum - Heathen Throne
8: Tomislav95: Ensiferum - Heathen Throne
9: ???: ???
10: ???: ???
11: 425: Flying Colors - Cosmic Symphony
12: Evermind: Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 24, 2016, 09:31:59 AM
I only recognized mine. 425 is going to guess them in a heartbeat.

You vastly overestimate me. I only recognized mine and yours. Which is what I suspected you would send this round.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 10:35:40 AM
I only recognized mine. 425 is going to guess them in a heartbeat.

You vastly overestimate me. I only recognized mine and yours. Which is what I suspected you would send this round.

I meant "them" as "my snippets".

The Scarecrow is the best choice, because even if I get eliminated in this round, I honestly can say I've sent the best power metal available.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 24, 2016, 10:39:13 AM
Okay, that makes more sense! I have to agree, it was right of you to go big with that one. If Parama doesn't like it, you can't be faulted for having made a questionable power metal choice.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 10:44:31 AM
oh man, this is the best power metal ever?  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 24, 2016, 10:49:34 AM
Well, it's my favourite power metal song, so yeah, for me it is indeed. Power metal can be different, there is that classic 80s power metal which you can hear on Helloween first two Keeper albums, and there are some killer songs; first two Avantasia albums, The Metal Opera pt. 1 and 2 both have that classic power metal feel as well, with some killer tunes like Reach Out for the Light, The Tower and The Seven Angels, but if we're talking modern power metal, this song is where it's at. I wouldn't even wholly label it "power metal", but it's damn close, and it's damn perfect for me.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 24, 2016, 03:46:59 PM
so who's up for guessing home's song tho
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 26, 2016, 09:01:40 AM
should i just do hangmanen for the song left  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 26, 2016, 11:09:32 AM
You should indeed, give me the D.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 26, 2016, 12:15:33 PM
__d__ - ______d___

did this from memory so it might be wrong lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 26, 2016, 12:20:55 PM
__d__ - ______d___

did this from memory so it might be wrong lol
It's correct  ;)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 26, 2016, 12:26:22 PM
T.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 26, 2016, 12:30:20 PM
You should indeed, give me the D.

By the way, this is what I had in mind when I posted this.

I know that it's haaard (http://vocaroo.com/i/s07XjkBXco7q)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 26, 2016, 01:12:43 PM
there is no T
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Post by: Bolsters on August 26, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
B
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 26, 2016, 08:36:04 PM
Bbdbb - Bbbbbbdbbb

jk there's no B's
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on August 27, 2016, 10:01:43 AM
R

When can we expect results?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 27, 2016, 10:07:37 AM
__d_r - ______d___

let's go with "today" with a side of "but maybe tomorrow"

i'm actually thinking i need to give these all an extra listen which would push things from "probably today" into "maybe today but more likely tomorrow"
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on August 27, 2016, 02:43:54 PM
L
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 27, 2016, 02:45:19 PM
_ld_r - ______d___
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 27, 2016, 03:35:47 PM
Alder?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 27, 2016, 03:38:53 PM
Elder?! I love that band, but never really mentioned them on here
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 27, 2016, 03:42:11 PM
Elder - ______d___

yessir
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 27, 2016, 03:49:20 PM
Compendium??

Home youre the fucking man I had no idea you were into this

Btw Sacul check out this song, this band is like Kyuss + Mastodon
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 27, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Home of Naught
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 27, 2016, 03:55:05 PM
Btw Sacul check out this song, this band is like Kyuss + Mastodon
Will check.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on August 27, 2016, 04:30:08 PM
One of my best discoveries of the year tbh, I'm loving all the stoner metal type stuff right now.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 27, 2016, 04:44:12 PM
One of my best discoveries of the year tbh, I'm loving all the stoner metal type stuff right now.
Someone could use that in your roulette :-X
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 27, 2016, 09:05:23 PM
Btw Sacul check out this song, this band is like Kyuss + Mastodon
Will check.
It was ok  :P

One of my best discoveries of the year tbh, I'm loving all the stoner metal type stuff right now.
Someone could use that in your roulette :-X
I'd have sent Dopesmoker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIw7oeZKpZc) tbh.

I can recommend you some stoner if you want to explore some more, Train ;)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 27, 2016, 09:13:37 PM
i tried listening to dopesmoker at some point

i have no clue how anyone ever coudl enjoy it, but i don't drugs

also i haven't started on writeups, i may try to hammer them out tonight but damn am i really not feeling like writing atm, i'll do them tomorrow for sure if i don't tonight
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on August 27, 2016, 11:51:29 PM
well holy mountain is better, faster and groovier i guess.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on August 28, 2016, 02:49:00 AM
Lore is a pretty cool record, something like 8-/10.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: home on August 28, 2016, 04:11:47 AM
Lore is pretty great indeed  ;D I do feel the album could do with some quiter parts as it is quite tiring to listen to.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 28, 2016, 12:43:33 PM
Give me R.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 28, 2016, 12:49:21 PM
yeah, i have three of the writeups done and i can tell you with pretty strong certainty who's getting cut so you'll get them today
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 28, 2016, 04:20:09 PM
Riding Gloriously Into Battle

Tomislav95 Ė Ensiferum Ė Heathen Throne (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mowu8AP2owA)

First Impressions:
The drumming on this feels really simple, but it does well to keep a driving mood going so I think it works. Beyond that I donít actually have a lot to say on first listen, at least halfway through the song I donít? Itís solid folky metal that goes through enough changes to keep me interested. Thereís definitely a sense of scale to this song, even besides its runtime, at half its length itíd still be nailing an epic and majestic sound quite well. Not a standout song on first listen but itís plenty enjoyable enough, yeah.

Final Thoughts:
Listening to this more, itís standing out as a bit weird to me that the harsh vocals on this track are closer to metalcore than anything else. Or at least thatís what I hear. Not really a positive or negative in either way, just an observation. Another observation: the folky main motif that pops up a number of times in this song always brings weird rhythms with it. Itís hard to get a grasp on what the time signature is for parts when this is playing because all the other instruments keep steady until the phrase ends, at which point thereís a bit of awkwardness to get back on track.

The song succeeds at a really driving feel during its heavier moments, and Iíd attribute a lot of that to the drums; theyíre straightforward enough to not detract but build enough momentum for the song to keep the driving feel going. And thereís definitely a very grand feel to the song as well. The first time the big group vocals kick in over the folky motif, just a really powerful and cool moment. Iím fairly certain thatís the chorus of the song too? It repeats several times and contains a title drop so. Yeah, thatís a good thing to have as your chorus.

The transition into the guitar solo around 6 minutes and the solo itself are both strong moments too, the song builds up momentum so quickly and just explodes as the solo enters, and itís a pretty solid solo over a nice reprise of an earlier moment as well. And then the song really lets loose, changes into something more akin to thrash metal with a really fast and intense pace for a brief moment. It just kind of comes and goes at first but then the song goes through a few slight transitions to smoothly work its way back to this intense feelÖ which is kind of what I wish itíd done in the first place instead of having awkward transitions to begin with, but ehh. The intense, double-time reprise of the chorus really sells the climax of this song, it brings everything full circle in a cool way.

My thoughts on this song are that itísÖ pretty cool, it does a lot right and does enough to both keep itself interesting and keep itself grounded. It takes a lot from various styles of metal and melds it all together into a mostly cohesive whole with a few bits that could probably use a bit of work to make them flow better but on the whole, yeah, a pretty interesting song. I wouldnít really say itís something thatís blowing me away at the moment but I enjoy it every time I listen to it and all the gripes I do have feel pretty minor overall.

8.25/10



Evermind Ė Avantasia Ė The Scarecrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-PkfKZAT6E)

First Impressions:
The folky violin in the intro is used pretty well. Iím failing to have much to say about this about 4 minutes in. Uhh. The vocals are pretty solid. The guitar riffs have a nice groove to them. Wish there was more drums/bass presence. The calm break in the middle makes for a nice change of pace. The tradeoffs between all the instruments over the chill and ethereal atmosphere works really well. Yeah, the groove of the riffs is definitely the strongest point of this for me, mostly because theyíre present through a lot of the song Ė so I like a lot of the song because of them. Honestly this might be accidentally a really wise choice, because a good bit of the power metal I have liked in the past was the more downtempo stuff that had groove to it like this. Maybe the ending goes on a touch long though. I feel like this could serve to be about a minute shorter.

Final Thoughts:
I really like the chorus of this song, first and foremost. Itís really grand and powerful but really simple, pretty decisively focused on the vocals with the rest of the instruments just providing a heavy backdrop. Itís pretty memorable as a result and hits hard, itís just really satisfying.

The main folk motif that pops up throughout a lot of the song is pretty strong too, though I wish there was slightly more movement in the motif itself; it repeats basically the same phrase three times each loop and only resolves on the fourth bar. But I mean itís memorable and pretty effective.  And itís used in different ways, the violin and guitar both getting a lot of moments with the motif for different levels of intensity. I also really dig the guitar riff thatís going on under the heavier reprises of the melody, thereís just a cool jagged groove to it.

The atmospheric break in the middle is great too, lots of small things going on, the swelling strings, the bells and piano providing gentle melodies, the percussion keeping a tempo going, and a pretty solid guitar solo mixed in there as well. Itís a nice calm moment even if the song as a whole isnít especially intense to begin with. The guitar solo that comes in later is pretty strong too, I enjoy it.

Around the 8 minute mark is probably my favorite moment of the song, everything builds to boiling point and the vocals are a bit over the top but in a fun way, the guitar and drums have a solid groove going and thereís a fullness to the songís sound. And then the same theme is built into a driving, double-time feel building up to one final chorus. I dunno what I was saying with the ending going on too long though, maybe it felt longer than it is for some reason but the final chorus isnít really that long and it ends on a final reprise of the folky motif.

I will say that the vocals as a whole arenít really standing out to me; the rougher-edged vocals serve their purpose but I donít find them especially powerful, and the real strength of the more melodic moments are the melodies and harmonizations. Not that the vocals are bad, either, theyíre plenty solid. More just a pretty inconsequential nitpick. If I can also nitpick, I suppose it does feel like, while no one moment of the song goes on too long, maybe the song as a whole feels a bit stretched out, that may be what I was trying to get at in my first impressions writeup. At the same time, Iím not really sure what here could be cut? Itís a really cohesive song in its simplicity. Thereís no one moment that really feels disposable. Itís probably fine as it is all things considered.

Iím going back and forth trying to figure out exactly where this one stands in my mind. Itís just a very solid song on all fronts that doesnít really have any major faults. Itís pretty memorable with two big hooks and a lot of smaller things. It doesnít strike me as hard as I feel it should but itís still pretty darn strong. Again pingponging between scores so Iím gonna ďwhateverĒ it and give the higher one because, again, it doesnít matter.

8.5/10



Fallen and Slain

425 Ė Flying Colors Ė Cosmic Symphony (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUYEWrsRSU4)

First Impressions:
My first impression with this is thatÖ the production just isnít doing it for me. Everything soundsÖ robotic, like a slight phaser effect was thrown over the entire audio track. Also I already know this is freakiní Neal Morse again, but sure. And Portnoyís here too. I know about Flying Colors. The drumming here is unsurprisingly really good. Very tasteful.  The vocals areÖ not appealing to me here much, actually. The middle of this song sounds likeÖ an indie country song or something. No, wait, he sounds like. George Ezra. The guy who sang that Budapest song that was pretty alright. Honestly this is actually more appealing than the proggier earlier bits to me, itís very straight and to the point with actual emotional impact. It does sound completely detached from what came before though. This song isÖ strange. Itís kind of like two different songs loosely stitched together. Ehh. Sure.

Final Thoughts:
The start of this song. It sets up a really ominous vibe between the piano line and the strings, as well as the vocal melodies. But this is all contrasted with this really straightforward drum beat. Literally the most simple drum beat possible. And the song justÖ holds on this for a good while. Itís an okay sound to hold on, sure, and I quite like the bass solo that comes in, but the song feels a bit motionless for its first three minutes. Thereís a slight sense of progress, I guess. Iím mostly nitpicking, Iím not really bothered by it that much.

The second phase of the song is proggier in nature, weirder time signatures, more interesting and tasteful drumming, the very proggy synth sound. Itís a more interesting sound and feels less stationary. And I do enjoy how the main motif of the first quarter of the song joins back in after a while. The guitar solo is okay, a bit too shreddy I suppose but it helps build a solid climax.

Most of the back half of the song just goes in a completely different direction that only vaguely feels like it follows from the rest of the song. I definitely like the vocals here a lot more than on the first half. Honestly the back half of the song is the only part of this I ever remembered after the fact, the first half of the song is maybe more ďinterestingĒ from a technical perspective but the back half is just a lot more enjoyable to listen to.

The vocals are the centerpiece here but the instrumentation plays off them really well. Somber and melodic guitar lines that are constantly changing, warm organ lines, drums that evolve alongside the music and vocals without ever being distracting. The guitar solo in this half of the song is a lot more compelling too, more of a melodic and emotive edge to it. When the backing choir comes in at the climax of the song, with the powerful vocals over them, itís just a really strong moment and a great way to punctuate the song.

The issue with this song that I simply canít shake. Itís two songs. The only slight relation between the front and back half of this song is that the intro motif comes back at the very end, but nothing else ties them together at all. The vocalists are different, the atmosphere is a lot more relaxed and straightforward on the back half, and itís all the better for it. I donít mind the front half of this track, but itís nothing special; the back half isnít exactly unique either but itís much better executed and just generally more enjoyable. Itíd definitely rate a lot higher on its own, but unfortunately itís attached to an inferior front half and as a result the song just feels frustratingly split and brings the whole thing down a notch for me. I still like this track a fair bit though, itís far from bad, itís actually pretty good, but not quite great.

7.75/10



Leading the Charge

home Ė Elder Ė Compendium (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYhXBP6rFBk)

First Impressions:
Okay, when I think of stoner metal, the guitar noodling this starts off is about the last thing I think of. But I kind of, adore it? And thereís a riff that reminds of some Led Zeppelin song I canít put my finger on. It feels like it may get a bit repetitive though? At least the first third or so, seems to be retreading a lot of the same ground. The guitar work on this song is pretty colorful throughout and easily the most enjoyable aspect of this song for me. The rest doesnít really have a chance to match up; drums are solid, bass maybe a bit underplayed, and Iím not sure I care much for the vocals. Especially with how low theyíre mixed and you can kind of barely hear them. I think I already like this a fair bit on first listen though and I feel like itíll probably grow on me on relisten too.

Final Thoughts:
Thereís just something about the kind of guitar noodling thatís present throughout a lot of this song. I canít really specifically say why I like it a lot, I just do. Sometimes I donít really like guitar noodling, but often thatís just because it sounds generic and pointless. Iím not sure I can say it does have a huge point here, but it definitely sounds far from generic, maybe because of the harmonization going on, and that itís not just basic, palatable melodies, it has flavor.

The riffs in this song are pretty cool too, I especially like the 3/4-feeling riff thatís interspersed between some of the guitar noodling. Itís got a nice power to it and it creates an interesting jagged feel whenever it shows up. The drums also, I dismissed them a bit on my first listen but they drive a strong groove and theyíre definitely an important factor as to why the song works as well as it does.

The more chill passage in the middle of the song serves as a nice break from the higher energy of the rest of the track, too, itís a nice well-textured and flowing moment that doesnít drag on too long but still serves its purpose well.

Iím finding it hard to really have a lot new to say about this. Still not a huge fan of the vocals but theyíre on so little of the song that I donít have time to be bothered by them either, thereís a lot of instrumental passages here and theyíre all plenty interesting on their own, and even the music behind the vocals tends to be strong enough that I can still enjoy the bits with vocals. The bass probably should have more presence, itís hard to tell thereís a bassist at all on this track and I am almost positive Iíd enjoy this song some more if there was a lot of interesting bass work going on that I could hear. But I canít really hear it much if at all.

I do think the one thing this song lacks is an emotional power, or at the very least I donít get much emotive presence out of this song aside from that one riff I mentioned. But on a technical level this is the kind of stuff I love, the guitars are doing so many cool and different things and thereís a hypnotic groove to the long instrumental passage that makes up most of the back half of the song, slowly going through a lot of small phases and evolving while lots of different flourishes and melodies drive the foreground. It pleases the music theory side of my brain far more than it pleases the emotive side of my brain, but regardless that still does mean that I enjoy it a fair bit.

So yeah, overall, this was definitely the most interesting song of the round for me, and I feel like this is the track Iím most likely to return to out of the entire bunch, just for how much it has going on, how many little details there are to pick out musically. I still am finding new things with every listen. I donít know whether or not Iíll lose interest once Iím better able to wrap my head around all the things happening here but I kind of hope not, and that doesnít particular matter for now anyways.

8.5/10


Smells like 425 is out, and the rest of you can send for the round I am severely going to regret oh god why do I do this to myself
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 28, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
Cool cool cool.
I'm not sure what to send yet but I think it won't be anything too long, I don't want to torment you (too much) and I'm not really a big fan of too long songs.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 28, 2016, 04:45:24 PM
thank you, 10/10, you win the roulette by default gg
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 28, 2016, 04:46:50 PM
that's cool
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Scorpion on August 28, 2016, 04:47:29 PM
Heathen Throne and The Scarecrow are two great songs, props to Evermind and Tomislav. :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 28, 2016, 05:03:20 PM
I really need to check Avantasia. 6 month ago or so I asked someone to recommend me an album and Evermind described few of their albums for me to pick what suits my tastes. And I DIDN'T check them. I hope I will before my roulette starts :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on August 28, 2016, 05:12:58 PM
I'm offended surprised Evermind has been sending mostly power metal and is still in Parama's roulette. like wtf  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 28, 2016, 05:24:47 PM
i mean i like some power metal but it generally bores me. evermind's just been doing good to send songs I actually like
in retrospect wheel of time probably should've scored a quarter point lower but i still think it's better than the caladan brood song by a slight bit.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 28, 2016, 08:33:14 PM
Ah well. I honestly didn't expect to make it nearly this long anyway. It was a fun ride of sending random things and not having Parama totally hate them! This has actually been one of the more fun roulettes I've done recently; I think the sudden death element adds some excitement to waiting for/reading the results, because you never know when you're gonna get booted.

I have only two regrets: That I didn't get to send Parama an inordinately long song in long-overdue retribution for LoD,DoD, and that I didn't get to lose to Evermind by a half-point in the final. So please someone send something that's like an hour long kthx and then Evermind will have to just get his revenge on me some other time. Weird that all my regrets are roulette-revenge oriented, but ok lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 28, 2016, 08:44:15 PM
i'm mildly satisfied with how the results are going but i regret having to cut scorp since he did send me the best song of the roulette (actually went back to listen to it to compare the 8.5's of this round against it and yeah, it's definitely a step up above them, though i am also satisfied with not giving it a 9.0, it's not quite that good... yet)

but i prob won't run this kind of roulette again. i actually have a neat concept in mind for my next roulette that should hopefully be pretty fun.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 28, 2016, 10:40:41 PM
I think it's hilarious I'm still in, but I kind of expected to get through with The Scarecrow, this song is just too good. Shame about 425. :-\

I don't even have an epic lined up for this round, never thought I'll actually get this far. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 29, 2016, 02:13:20 AM
Wow, didn't expect to still be in either  ;D. Parama, can you give me a brief opinion on (20th century) classical music?

I don't even have an epic lined up for this round, never thought I'll actually get this far. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 29, 2016, 02:18:21 AM
John Cage is not banned? Sending right away! :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2016, 02:25:17 AM
Normally I would've sent either Need or Dimension Act, but I think I've recommended both of them to Parama and he wasn't impressed, so they're out.

Guess this is going to be more difficult than I initially thought. I don't even have a lot of epics to choose from! :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 29, 2016, 05:11:34 AM
Sent some prog metal.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2016, 06:32:07 AM
And Thick as a Brick is banned too. This is no fun.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 29, 2016, 08:36:21 AM
Wow, didn't expect to still be in either  ;D. Parama, can you give me a brief opinion on (20th century) classical music?
don't
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2016, 09:19:05 AM
Another fun fact: the 425's losing song in this round scored higher than any of my songs in the first four rounds. The highest score I've ever got there was 7.5. :lol

Alright, now that I'm back from work, I'll go pick some epic for you.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 29, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
Wow, didn't expect to still be in either  ;D. Parama, can you give me a brief opinion on (20th century) classical music?
don't

Damn, I'd have sent Rite of Spring, really no clue what to send now  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 29, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Too bad Green Carnation is banned :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2016, 10:01:20 AM
Hey, Parama, can you list your Top 5 epics here? One epic per band in the list please.

Also, hey, let's do preliminary hangman.

Tomislav: Redemption - At Day's End

Probably wrong but what the hell.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 29, 2016, 11:40:06 AM
I haven't looked at the song title yet but that is probably correct since he sent redemption  :lol

also I'll do it when I get home, which will be when you are asleep most likely

also @ home to be fair I dunno what 20th century classical implies but "classical" is generally something that will make me turn away from something in general
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 29, 2016, 11:51:59 AM
Hey, Parama, can you list your Top 5 epics here? One epic per band in the list please.

Also, hey, let's do preliminary hangman.

Tomislav: Redemption - At Day's End

Probably wrong but what the hell.
You're wrong! There are two more 15+ min Redemption songs :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Scorpion on August 29, 2016, 11:57:41 AM
i bet you sent something wicked this way comes
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 29, 2016, 12:00:28 PM
i bet you sent something wicked this way comes
Did I? :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2016, 12:35:09 PM
Sapphire then?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 29, 2016, 12:39:46 PM
man now I'm curious as to which one he sent too but I'm not opening a YT video on my phone
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 29, 2016, 12:43:25 PM
Sapphire then?
Yep. It's probably contender for winning the survivor. My 4th favorite Redemption tune.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
I listened to it just yesterday (so I could vote in the survivor), yeah, great song. I actually thought of sending it and then realized you probably sent something by Redemption. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 29, 2016, 12:49:05 PM
also @ home to be fair I dunno what 20th century classical implies but "classical" is generally something that will make me turn away from something in general

Well `classical music from the 20th century` is actually way to broad to really mean anything.  :P But I guess it implies more experimention and dissonance and also sometimes more focus on rhythm instead of melody like in a lot of older classical music.

Perhaps I should just send the piece to torture educate you  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 29, 2016, 12:49:55 PM
Yes you should. I could use a free spot in the final round too.
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Post by: Parama on August 29, 2016, 01:52:12 PM
I'll look it up, I really don't suggest sending something waaayyy out there in the epic round  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tyrias on August 29, 2016, 02:31:18 PM
I'm kind of glad I'm already eliminated. I just looked up what options I would have, and it would be between post-rock, weird post-rock and a prog song that's somehow in my library but I never listened to.
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Post by: Parama on August 29, 2016, 07:34:36 PM
have some epics or something

Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons (8.75)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Sleep (8.5)
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness (9)
Haken - Celestial Elixir (9.25)
Inter Arma - The Cavern (8.5)
Intronaut - The Reptilian Brain (8.75)
Ne Obliviscaris - Painters of the Tempest (8.5)
Obsidian Kingdom - Mantiis (does this count? irdc) (8.5)
Thy Catafalque - Molekularis Gepezetek (8.5)

these are like the only 9 in my entire library that i really like, apparently, like, a lot. only counting 15+ minute songs here
maybe uhh. the third track off Sgurr too? something like that. maybe that's #11 or so i dunno
tbh i didn't think about those numbers that much so you shouldn't either.
the point is i shouldn't be doing an epic round but here i am anyways
also evermind i actually don't remember a single thing about dimension act or need fwiw
and i've listened to thick as a brick like once and just remember it not being my thing but tbh i don't remember it well either. but jethro tull is just. an artist everyone already knows about. there's a few that are on the list just because of that, i know about them and if i ever wanted to get into them i don't really need a roulette entry to do it for me. i guess

edit: i only listened to the one need song also so idunnolol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 29, 2016, 07:38:33 PM
also i listened to about 13 minutes or so of rite of spring so i can decisively say:

don't send this to me. it's in the same category as jazz, which is to say: "i can appreciate the talent it took to write/perform this but it does absolutely nothing for me"
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 30, 2016, 09:26:57 AM
I have enough prog rock epics in my library, probably more than ten I could send, but any of them will probably just get me eliminated. :lol Maybe I should just send At Day's End.

I'll send something in a few hours.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 30, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
also i listened to about 13 minutes or so of rite of spring so i can decisively say:

don't send this to me. it's in the same category as jazz, which is to say: "i can appreciate the talent it took to write/perform this but it does absolutely nothing for me"


I can understand, I have that with some songs too. Glad you listened and saved me from getting a 1  :lol

Sent a song that's barely long enough but quite beautiful I think. Probably the most soft/mellow song I sent so far, I hope this does do something for you :azn:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 30, 2016, 01:49:16 PM
However I look at it, I'm going to be eliminated anyway. So I'm going to send a song I've never sent before in the roulettes. Good luck to remaining participants in the finals.

Sent.
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Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
Alright have all the songs
Might do hangmanen before impressions because I may or may not do all the impressions tonight, depends on how long the songs are
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 30, 2016, 02:06:11 PM
They're all under 20 minutes I think. Sapphire is 15-something, mine is 16-something and home said his song is barely long enough.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: home on August 30, 2016, 02:08:10 PM
Yeah mine's 16-something too. We're way too nice for you  :laugh:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 30, 2016, 02:10:35 PM
Sapphire is the shortest then. We were to gentle with Parama.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 02:33:13 PM
the ideal scenario tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 07:27:08 PM
Round 6 Hangman!!!

Tomislav95: Redemption - Sapphire
???: ___ _________ _____ - ________ __
???: _______ ___ - ______ - _ _________ __ _______ - ____ _

okay like seriously though you could've sent songs of any length and all three of you sent songs within 30 seconds length of each other  :lol
i haven't listened to any of them yet but i'm gonna sit down and do at least one of them right now
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on August 30, 2016, 09:09:49 PM
Y
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 09:20:35 PM
Tomislav95: Redemption - Sapphire
???: ___ _________ _____ - ________ __
???: _______ ___ - ______ - _ ______y__ __ _______ - ____ _

y do u do this 2 me
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on August 30, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 10:02:55 PM
i'm going to take that as guessing G

Tomislav95: Redemption - Sapphire
???: ___ _________ _____ - ________ __
???: ______g ___ - ____g_ - _ ______y__ __ __g____ - ____ _
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on August 30, 2016, 10:33:24 PM
The Pineapple Thief - Remember Us
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 10:37:15 PM
savage. who sent it tho :neverusethis:
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Post by: Evermind on August 30, 2016, 10:39:20 PM
Probably Train, back from the dead. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on August 30, 2016, 11:02:48 PM
H
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 11:13:24 PM
Tomislav95: Redemption - Sapphire
???: The Pineapple Thief - Remember Us
???: ______g ___ - ____g_ - _ ______y__ __ __g____ - ____ _

H says: no
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Post by: Bolsters on August 30, 2016, 11:54:25 PM
 :\
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 30, 2016, 11:55:24 PM
what if i did hangmanen for my first impressions tidbits :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 5 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on August 31, 2016, 12:10:47 AM
Round 6 First Impressions

I think this song is a little confused about what it wants to be but most of the time what it wants to be is something I really like and I donít dislike the rest either, so.

Thereís kind of a brightness to the vibe of the song even with these jagged guitar lines going on and the vocals sound decisively less bright, like the music is just putting up a faÁade.

Iím finding my mind wandering as this goes on, honestly. Itís competent enough for the genre, but itís just failing to grab me in any real way.

Overall: I feel like I already know who's getting cut here because on first listen I quite liked two songs and was pretty meh on the third, but things can certainly change; I mean, Purity Ring went from dead last on first listen to #2 by my final results, so  :lol I probably shouldn't have done an epic round to begin with because it's a very un-Parama thing to do but I don't think I'll end up unsatisfied with the result, at the very least.
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Post by: Evermind on August 31, 2016, 12:30:28 AM
Hell yeah I'm getting cut. Should've sent Need to be honest.

First one is Redemption and the second is Pineapple Thief.
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Post by: Parama on August 31, 2016, 12:37:20 AM
Evermind: ______g ___ - ____g_ - _ ______y__ __ __g____ - ____ _

song of the year, i love it

0/10
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Post by: Evermind on August 31, 2016, 12:43:41 AM
I really hoped to get to EP round since I've made it that far, but hey, it was fun anyway.

B
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on August 31, 2016, 12:53:50 AM
wow! no B! who would've guess
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 01, 2016, 03:56:02 PM
Nobody even wants the D?
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Post by: Luoto on September 01, 2016, 04:20:55 PM
S
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Post by: Parama on September 01, 2016, 08:31:09 PM
______g ___ - ____g_ - _ ______y__ __ __g___s - ____ _

after three listens the standings are exactly the same as they were after my first listen, with about the same relative distance between the three. maybe slightly more between #1 and #2 than before, or slightly less between #2 and #3, one of the two. i think it's that #2 i haven't liked as much on relistens as i did first listen but it's still pretty solid.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 01, 2016, 11:10:02 PM
Just get on with it and eliminate me already. :D
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Post by: home on September 02, 2016, 12:01:36 AM
Nobody even wants the D?

Give me that D
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Post by: Evermind on September 02, 2016, 12:14:15 AM
There's no D. :lol
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Post by: home on September 02, 2016, 12:19:47 AM
 :facepalm:
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Post by: Parama on September 02, 2016, 12:34:25 AM
considering how many common letters there are in a song title this long it's surprising nobody's getting any of them  :lol
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Post by: home on September 02, 2016, 12:54:17 AM
A?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 02, 2016, 02:11:41 AM
May as well do this while Parama's not here.

__a___g ___ - ___ag_ - A _____aya_ __ __g___s - _a__ _
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Post by: Scorpion on September 02, 2016, 02:12:57 AM
Gimme the E.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 02, 2016, 02:14:28 AM
I think it's pretty obvious right now.

AEDBSGHY

__a___g ___ - ___age - A _____aya_ __ __g__es - _a__ _
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 02, 2016, 02:38:56 AM
Third word = Ownage

I thought afterward came "A Betrayal of..." but thats not possible with the amount of spaces and letters given
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Post by: Bolsters on September 02, 2016, 03:01:46 AM
Flaming Row - Mirage - A Portrayal of Figures - Part I
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Post by: Tomislav95 on September 02, 2016, 04:13:41 AM
flaming row succ, listen to mantiis :neverusethis:
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Post by: Evermind on September 02, 2016, 04:16:49 AM
Yeah, I saw this too. It's a wonder I'm not leading in the poll right now. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 02, 2016, 04:24:48 AM
Yeah, I saw this too. It's a wonder I'm not leading in the poll right now. :lol
That was probably just to mess with our heads :P
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Post by: Parama on September 02, 2016, 10:43:44 AM
:jamaritard:
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Post by: Tomislav95 on September 02, 2016, 10:48:15 AM
Wow @ only I think I'm out this round.
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Post by: home on September 02, 2016, 11:05:28 AM
Wow @ only I think I'm out this round.
Atleast your not the only one voting for yourself :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 02, 2016, 10:12:16 PM
tbh just not feeling up to listening to 2 of the 3 songs tonight so i'm gonna listen to 0 of them, results will be sunday
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Elite on September 03, 2016, 05:02:59 AM
how have you still not guessed:

Flaming Row - Mirage: A Portrayal of Figures, Part 1

or part 2
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Elite on September 03, 2016, 05:04:53 AM
Flaming Row - Mirage - A Portrayal of Figures - Part I

oh oops missed this post.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 04, 2016, 11:51:18 AM
Stop Sending Me This Crap in Roulettes by The Hosts
:lol

Points have slipped through my fingertips
And the finals melted from my hand
I'll never forget the look in your eyes
When you lied and said this wasn't ending.


:emo:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: 425 on September 04, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Good to see "Parama, for hosting this round" is winning the poll.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 04, 2016, 08:02:40 PM
ReadyÖ

#1: home: The Pineapple Thief Ė Remember Us (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWzmVEn0M3U)

First Impressions:
Very gorgeous and soothing music at the start of this, Iím liking it. I actually am kind of wishing there werenít vocals now but Iíll probably be used to them by the time Iíve heard this a few times so whatever. Just the way this track flows, itís soÖ natural. Iím probably biased while listening to this right now because chill music is absolutely what Iím in the mood for, but. I think this song is a little confused about what it wants to be but most of the time what it wants to be is something I really like and I donít dislike the rest either, so. I haveÖ very little to say about this on first listen, other than that I like it. The ending felt a little abrupt, though.

Final Thoughts:
The intro of this is so gorgeous. That simple guitar lead and the layers of strings. I just adore the whole vibe of it, very warm and pleasant in the best way. And it keeps itself from dragging on for too long, as well. Thereís small shifts and additions until the vocals come in at about 2:30. Iíve grown to like how the song really kicks in here, the drums provide a nice driving feel and the vocals are really pleasant while fitting into the sound of the song naturally.

The whole vibe of this song that I get while listening to it is that itís ďniceĒ. And I definitely donít mean that in a bad way because I definitely get a lot of enjoyment out of it because of its general vibe. Itís the kind of music that Iím basically always in the mood for.

And itís just executed well, too. After the vocal bit thereís this nice build on one theme thatís great, the drums pick up a bit, the guitars pick up a bit, the background strings swell, it hits a peak briefly but doesnít draw it out, then backs off a little as the ambient middle section kicks in.

The ambient middle section itself isÖ fine enough. Itís not as lusciously textured as the denser ambient stuff I like, and not as subtle as the more tender ambient I like, but it hits a solid middle point. I think the quietly roaring guitar in the back is what really pulls it together for me. Itís a subtle harshness that gives the sound of the section a bit more weight. I donít think it transitions back into the meat of the song very smoothly though, not as smooth as the transition into the ambient section at least.

It continues to be much easier to talk about this song by sections since they are all pretty cleanly divided up, heh. The next section is a more straightforward section that mostly exists to build tension, driven by a repeating piano and guitar motif with some synths and vocals coming in and out while the drums keep a steady, straightforward groove going. Itís a solid section but probably the weakest of the entire song, really, and they hold on to it for maybe a bit long. Near the end it fades out to just the main motif before a brief build into the final section of the song.

Which happens to be a nice reprise of the earlier chorus with a bit more life and energy put into it, making for a pretty effective climax, albeit one that feels maybe a bit too brief. The song repeats a similar kind of build after to close out the track, with a decent guitar solo going on as it builds. It does feel like it drops off a bit unceremoniously after it hits its peak though.

This writeup feels like a bit of a wreck honestly, itís not how Iíd like to talk about music but itís easier to express my thoughts about this song this way, I suppose. Itís a song that has its ups and downs and documenting them in such a way probably effectively conveys my feelings towards this track. Some of its highs are pretty dang high, but thereís also some moments where the song meanders a bit and a few places that feel like outright misfires or poor songwriting choices that do detract from the overall piece. I like this song, but I definitely canít say that I love it.

8.25/10



SetÖ

#2: Evermind: Flaming Row - Mirage - A Portrayal of Figures - Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrN-LTbFRe0)

First Impressions:
Iíve heard of fake endings before but this has like two fake openings, haha. The guitar work going on here reminds me of, funnily enough, Native Construct. Like honest to god thatís what I thought. Thereís kind of a brightness to the vibe of the song even with these jagged guitar lines going on and the vocals sound decisively less bright, like the music is just putting up a faÁade. Okay. That piano bit, itís kind of funny but also kind of works pretty well. I like the instrumental work of this track, a lot, apparently, the sax is great too. And apparently thereís like a hundred vocalists or something on this too. Thereís one or two Iím not a huge fan of but theyíre generally alright, though not great either. The song maybe jumps around a bit much but it flows well enough that I donít feel like it detracts.

Final Thoughts:
Out of the three songs in this round, this is definitely the one that had the strongest ďscopeĒ to it, the one that most decisively felt like an ďepicĒ and not just a long song. After a whole minute of noises, the song comes in right away with its main motif, one that appears enough so that you recognize it but not one that feels like it ever gets too hammered in or worn out.

This song definitely has its fair share of cheese going on, that much is certain. I have no clue what the story here is but having one of the main characters be named ďJohnĒ (presumably the everyday average guy who gets caught up in something fantastic) is a bit silly. I cannot take John seriously. I dunno who the sleeper is, or whether or not heís the good guy or the bad guy because Iím getting mixed signals. And thereís a lot of over-the-top-ness to this song. Iím not really bothered by most of it though? It fits in with the ďepicĒ theme theyíre going for here well enough.

What this song has going for it is that itís constantly in motion and really feels like it, but it doesnít ever feel spastic or incohesive. Thereís a lot of distinct moments to this song Ė that piano break immediately comes to mind before anything else but I can pretty decisively tell apart all the moments of this song Ė but all the moments are woven together well that it still feels like one song, just one that goes through its movements without ever needing to dig in its feet and rest on one idea for too long.

And while there are definitely a number of really wacky moments here, there are just as many grand and powerful ones Ė the chorus right in the middle of the song for example, playing off that main motif with a huge choir of voices and a massive wall of sound behind it, it works quite well.

Most of the vocalists I do like a fair bit, but Iím gonna pick on John again, because heís a loser and his vocal bits sound pretty bad to my ears. Itís this goofy rough-edged sound that thinks it sounds way cooler than it actually does, which may be in line with his character, I have no clue, but it just sounds bad. Pretty much all the other vocalists nail it though, even if theyíre maybe not all so distinguishable (I went and looked up the lyrics and was surprised at how many figures were meant to be portrayed here, probably twice as many as I thought).

Thereís some mildly eclectic instrumentation throughout a lot of this but never anything too off-the-wall; the piano and saxophone break, the flute solo, some solo violin at the climax of the song. All small little things that arenít exactly recurring but all add a lot when they show up. And thatís on top of the diverse and pretty interesting base musicianship throughout; the guitar work has a lot of different moods to it, the drums provide some solid bombast, the bass may or may not be present though, I have no clue. I wouldnít say thereís anything that unique or unexpected for a prog metal song but itís all solidly executed and doesnít sound recycled or tired, at the very least.

I definitely donít feel like, after only 5 listens, that Iíve gotten everything out of this that I could be getting, itís definitely the most complex track of the songs in this round, and probably the one that feels like it most merits more listens, which it probably will get. The gripes I have about the song are relatively minor compared to how much I do like, and while I wouldnít really say I love any moments of this song, nor are there many moments that hit me particularly hard, itís interesting and enjoyable throughout.

8.25/10



Gone.

#3: Tomislav95: Redemption Ė Sapphire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6oZPCSqRBk)

First Impressions:
To be fair I know exactly who Redemption is but Iíve never been able to get into them whenever Iíve tried checking them out. My first thought: I donít really like the vocals, at least not at the start of this. Thereís something about the tone of his voice. Itís really breathy in an irksome way. Musically thus far, it has beenÖ solid but not really noteworthy prog metal. Iím finding my mind wandering as this goes on, honestly. Itís competent enough for the genre, but itís just failing to grab me in any real way. Maybe itíll open up to me on relistens but I am just rather underwhelmed by this one, and I honestly didnít have very high expectations to begin with. The vocals are really the big problem with this one for me though. I justÖ I donít like them. Itís that simple. I dislike this vocalist.

Final Thoughts:
Man, I justÖ cannot get past the vocals. I figured out why. The way he sings, this vocal styleÖ he tries to belt almost every word, even during the quieter moments. Itís a lack of dynamics that just makes it fairly exhausting and homogenous to listen to. Even throwing aside that I donít like the tone of his voice to begin with, as I said in my first impression, the vocals just are not very pleasant to listen to here, with basically no exceptions.

I didnít put these guys on the banned list because in all fairness Iíd barely checked out any songs by them; maybe two or three ever, and all shorter ones. And I got the same impression from them as I get from this: Theyíre fine. They donít really do anything unique or interesting that makes them stand out as a band though, and they really just arenít for me. The other two tracks in this round are pretty striking and immediately memorable. This, after four listensÖ I could not remember a single moment of it.

The guitar lines areÖ serviceable. Thereís no really memorable melodies from them. The cleaner guitar work creates an alright atmosphere. The riffs are bog-standard, a lot of chugging and some more chordy stuff. The drums are pretty okay really, plenty of interesting rhythms and satisfyingly technical playing that still has impact. The bass isÖ vaguely present but mostly just seems to be doubling the guitar. The fast noodly synth lines drive a solid mood whenever they show up, and the synth strings add some texture to the atmosphere.

Thereís just nothing for me to grasp onto here though. The chorus would be passable if I liked the vocals more but they really do irk me. The song generally feels like itís lacking dynamics, aside from a few scattered quieter moments it feels like itís trying to drive this big-but-not-quite-grand sound a lot of the time; again, distributing its weight too thin and lacking any real hard-hitting moments as a result.

And yeah. The song does have a pretty solid focus on its vocals. Theyíre not the only aspect, of course, but theyíre a big one, theyíre driving most of the emotional crux this song is trying to have, andÖ well, if that fails for me, itís gonna be hard for the rest of the song to compensate. Yeah, there are some moments to this that have a decent amount of power to them, and perhaps Iím overexaggerating my distaste for the vocals since there are times when they sound fine enough, but the moments are far and few between.

And for a 16 minute song, this really feels stretched thin, too. I feel like Iím hearing a lot of the same riffs and themes over and over. Who knows if I actually am; but if Iím not, that almost makes it worse,  it just means all the diversity the song is trying to have gets buried in how plain and uneventful it is. Uhh. I guess some of the solos here are solid, a bit noodly at times but thereís one of the guitar solos in the last third that I like and thereís a solid piano moment in there too?

At the end of the day, this is simply just a song that doesnít have a lot to offer me. If I was just getting into prog metal and had gotten into these guys early on, Iíd probably have loved this, but this is just not where I am musically right now, and Iím not sure itís somewhere Iíll ever be again. Itís a shame to see you cut after a really consistent run the rest of this roulette, but thatís the way things are. I havenít even done the other two write-ups yet, as of time of writing, I just already know without a doubt this is the weakest of the three.

6.5/10



I think the worst part about this cut is not only that it's the player with (still) the highest average score in the roulette, but that it was so damn decisive of a cut that I can't even argue against it. Oh well. Such is roulette life  :lol

home and Evermind, I'm steeling yourself for the carnage that is your EPs  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 04, 2016, 08:05:28 PM
And just for clarification on the EP round:

1. Thinking something like 75%/25% split on how much song quality vs. EP flow matters. Decisively put an emphasis on the individual quality of songs themselves but don't weight flow so lightly to the point where it gets outright ignored.

2. The more important part; Ace Attorney 6 comes out Thursday and I'm gonna be playing the heck out of it so odds are I'll only be listening to one EP a day from that point onward. I'm not holding anyone's roulette back now that we've entered the final round so forgive a bit of slowness on this last round, thanks.

3. Seriously though just send me good songs (that fit within the rules of the EP round as defined in the round layout post).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (COME ONE, COME ALL)
Post by: Parama on September 04, 2016, 08:13:24 PM
Sent!

Thank you Parama and the participants, it was fun to play in this roulette while it lasted.

this is so funny in hindsight  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 04, 2016, 08:18:54 PM
It's 4 AM and I ain't even mad :corn
It was really fun, this roulette, I'd like to play in finals but yeah, this type of roulette doesn't forgive one mistake so it's cool. If I didn't send Redemption it would probably be YOB and I'm not sure what score I'd get because I still don't get your tastes but maybe it would be far worse than 6.5 :lol
Sorry home but I want to see Evermind's power metal EP winning :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 04, 2016, 08:19:38 PM
what's YOB?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 04, 2016, 08:22:03 PM
what's YOB?
Doom metal band. Their every song is (too) long, repetitive but very atmospheric. 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 04, 2016, 10:46:01 PM
Ooookay. :lol

Sad to see Redemption losing this round, I've listened to Sapphire a few times and I think it's a great song.

Totally agree with you about John, each time the name is used in the actual lyrics is :lolpalm:

Sent a question via PM.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 04, 2016, 10:57:35 PM
no you didn't. i did not get any PM  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 04, 2016, 11:00:58 PM
Because it wasn't you who I sent the question to. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 04, 2016, 11:01:36 PM
wow okay fair enough then  :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 05, 2016, 02:18:38 AM
Alright, got an answer and I'm ready to start making my EP. I'll probably have it by Wednesday.

I mean, it's such a unique opportunity. I can't imagine any other chance where I can send Parama 50 minutes of power metal and he'll have to repeatedly listen to it. This is like Christmas came early.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 05, 2016, 02:42:58 AM
I'm not holding anyone's roulette back now that we've entered the final round so forgive a bit of slowness on this last round, thanks.
Plus with the select group of the same participants every time it's only a matter of time before roulettes as a whole will be dying out. We need a new DT album fast to gain new DTF members :corn Dream Theater get your shit together please The Astonishing was more than half a year ago.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: home on September 05, 2016, 09:20:48 AM
The intro of this is so gorgeous. That simple guitar lead and the layers of strings. I just adore the whole vibe of it, very warm and pleasant in the best way.


The intro might just be my favourite bit of the song  :tup

Sent!

Thank you Parama and the participants, it was fun to play in this roulette while it lasted.

this is so funny in hindsight  :corn

And now he's even going to win since I already ran out of songs to send five rounds ago  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 05, 2016, 11:24:19 AM
The intro of this is so gorgeous. That simple guitar lead and the layers of strings. I just adore the whole vibe of it, very warm and pleasant in the best way.


The intro might just be my favourite bit of the song  :tup

Sent!

Thank you Parama and the participants, it was fun to play in this roulette while it lasted.

this is so funny in hindsight  :corn

And now he's even going to win since I already ran out of songs to send five rounds ago  :lol

I wanted to just give him 50 minutes of power metal, but then I asked Bolsters and apparently this mini-roulette still counts to the number of our total victories, and I tried to compose an EP with lots of power metal and it just doesn't work that well.

So I'm playing this absolutely serious.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 05, 2016, 11:27:33 AM
to be fair this mini-roulette is about as long as some full roulettes have been, but i consider it mini because i'm keeping the total number of songs fairly low (49 thus far)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 05, 2016, 11:29:16 AM
Yeah, that's fair and I'm not complaining. I wouldn't want to receive an EP with 50 minutes of djent in my roulette, for example.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 05, 2016, 11:33:22 AM
darn, i had already been planning a great one for your next roulette...  :'(
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: home on September 06, 2016, 09:28:32 AM
Can I put a live version of a certain song in my EP?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 10:20:15 AM
I mean sure but I tend to prefer studio versions + might hurt ep flow or cohesiveness score a little
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 06, 2016, 10:35:06 AM
But don't worry, I'm listening to my first two EP-songs punch and you'll get more points for flow and cohesiveness than me in any case.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 11:12:38 AM
Nobody wins this roulette anyways really so  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 06, 2016, 01:13:49 PM
Nobody wins this roulette anyways really so  :corn

I'm still expecting your response about The Origins of Ruin by the way. ;)

And I keep changing songs and swapping their places on my EP. Just had to take away another power metal song, it didn't fit. This became way more difficult when I decided to play serious.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 01:18:38 PM
I listened to it but it just seemed like an intro track building to something else and I didn't have anything worth saying about it
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 06, 2016, 01:22:49 PM
I listened to it but it just seemed like an intro track building to something else and I didn't have anything worth saying about it

If I use an "intro track" (which it isn't actually :lol ) like this in my EP, would you score it or what? How will these kind of tracks reflect on the score?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 01:25:29 PM
I'm scoring every track but scores are also proportional to overall EP length (see my first roulette)

Note that final score may not even be the determining factor it's just gonna be whichever EP I like more  (but highest scoring very likely should be??)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 06, 2016, 01:28:21 PM
Alright then. It's just I've got the 1:30, 1:41, 2:51 and 3:13 tracks in my current draft you will probably all call "intro tracks" if that's what you thought of The Origins of Ruin. :lol

By the way it's highly unlikely I'll send something until Friday, and it's way more likely I will deliver my EP on Sunday. I want to take time with this one.

Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 01:43:59 PM
Totally ok with that tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 06, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
Yeah, I also remembered I've got a tennis game scheduled on Friday and I'm probably going to be too tired and aching in all places after that so definitely Sunday.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: home on September 06, 2016, 01:54:00 PM
I mean sure but I tend to prefer studio versions + might hurt ep flow or cohesiveness score a little
There isn't any kind of flow atm anyway so  :lol But seriously the live version is so much better that it's worth putting in even if it hurts the flow a little.

I think I know which songs are in, but I really need to change something so there is at least some flow. I'll probably send in the next couple days.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 01:58:12 PM
tbh i usually cheat and add crossfades and stuff and I'm OK with people doing that to me too if it helps flow  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 06, 2016, 02:48:06 PM
The Origins of Ruin definitely belongs to the Biggest music teases ever thread.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 09:20:54 PM
just put in an order for Elder - Lore making it the first purchase from this roulette for me  :corn

admittedly, i haven't listened to a lot of the roulette albums yet, everything 8.0+ i'll def check out and maybe/likely the 7.5-7.75's too
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on September 06, 2016, 09:29:42 PM
tbh i usually cheat and add crossfades and stuff and I'm OK with people doing that to me too if it helps flow  :lol

Can confirm. It was much appreciated. Made an already really good EP even better.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 09:53:40 PM
i was thinking of the EP I sent train mostly
he never sent out everyone's EP's though, that loser
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on September 06, 2016, 10:41:04 PM
I never sent out everyone's EPs, but I think I invented the EP or something so maybe I can be excused for that.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 06, 2016, 10:45:40 PM
Well I think I got 3/6 of my EP's on spotify, I can send you Scorpions electronic EP if you want Parama? :corn Or Tomislav's EP :corn

Still making that post-roulette playlist though I'm just lazy
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 06, 2016, 11:05:37 PM
(https://s15.postimg.org/p2li2czob/image.png)

wow, he's right
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: 425 on September 07, 2016, 12:44:19 PM
I'm a pioneer. Also I'm over 100 years old.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 07, 2016, 01:21:44 PM
Alright, so this day my EP-composing session ended with a 54-minutes long EP. :facepalm: The only things I'm sure of are the first two opening songs and the closer, and I'm not sure about the scores at all, I just know I want to have these on my EP. Seriously, this is probably the most difficult time I have putting an EP together.

home, are you doing better than me on that front?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 07, 2016, 01:25:11 PM
I feel like a true supervillain right now  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 07, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Still, I've got three power metal songs out of ten as of now.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 07, 2016, 01:31:35 PM
if both of you max out your 50 minutes I probably won't have results up for two weeks after I get the EPs  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: home on September 07, 2016, 03:11:14 PM
home, are you doing better than me on that front?
Not so much I guess, mine's at 44 minutes now. I probably keep it at this length though, Parama's banned list is way too big (is he compensating for something?)  :laugh: Perhaps I'll just send it like it is now, there are at least some good songs on it I guess.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 07, 2016, 03:31:40 PM
Not so much I guess, mine's at 44 minutes now. I probably keep it at this length though, Parama's banned list is way too big (is he compensating for something?)  :laugh: Perhaps I'll just send it like it is now, there are at least some good songs on it I guess.
:lol gold
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 07, 2016, 03:43:00 PM
remind me to put agora on the banned list when I get home btw, they should be there now tbh

and the banned list is so long because last time I left off a lot and ended up getting a lot of bands I couldn't really reject because they weren't banned but that I knew a decent amount of stuff from already

granted dire straits was among that category so  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 07, 2016, 04:03:16 PM
Do you know that song...what it's called? Sultans of Swing, right! It's pretty good. Their guitar player has potential.
EDIT: I don't know where to write about this so I'll put it here: I just returned from Agent Fresco show. Don't miss those guys if you have chance to see them! They are really something :)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 07, 2016, 04:20:52 PM
did you see see hell
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 07, 2016, 04:25:02 PM
Yep. I believe setlist was the same http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/agent-fresco/2016/elektropionir-belgrade-serbia-3bfc584c.html
They just changed order of Wait for Me and Destrier because singer announced wrong song :lol
Really cool guys, hanged out with us after the show. I got Destrier CD signed by all of them :)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 07, 2016, 07:56:31 PM
Not so much I guess, mine's at 44 minutes now. I probably keep it at this length though, Parama's banned list is way too big (is he compensating for something?)  :laugh: Perhaps I'll just send it like it is now, there are at least some good songs on it I guess.
:lol gold

 :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 01:45:09 AM
(:soon: me up)
:soon: ME UP INSIDE
(i can't :soon: up)
:soon: ME UP INSIDE
(:corn me)
:corn MY NAME AND
:neverusethis: ME FROM THE DARK
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 10, 2016, 01:50:35 AM
Agent Rolado - See Parama
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 10, 2016, 03:00:27 AM
Evanescence :metal
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 10, 2016, 10:56:38 AM
I think I've finalized my EP at last. 10 songs, 49 minutes, it's more like an actual album than an EP. I'm sure I won't win (you'll see why when you guess some bands during hangman :lol ), but I can proudly say I'm indeed playing serious on that one and I don't regret anything. I mean, this is Parama's roulette. I just have to send him some cheesy metal, even if it brings my EP down. That's just how life works.

I'll send the EP in a few hours. I still have to think about the title and I want to do the write-up justice. Parama, you're in for a treat.

Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 11:03:02 AM
send me a delicious 9.0+ song
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 10, 2016, 12:21:38 PM
Well, if any of my songs are going to score 9.0+, this is the time. I'm sending some absolute best songs I know.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 01:15:22 PM
the more you build me up, the more you're gonna break me down
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 10, 2016, 01:21:41 PM
Meanwhile, I've just listened to See Hell and hell, it's quite good. SeeeEEeEeEE hell. Quite good.

Your EP is in the works.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 10, 2016, 01:27:40 PM
The way he sings the chorus reminds me of Bjork. 
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 01:35:19 PM
i mean, it's a pretty alright song

never got around to the album tho and at this point probably won't either
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 10, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
There are better songs on album IMO. And two of my favorite songs of theirs are on the first album.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 10, 2016, 01:41:14 PM
There are better songs on my EP too!
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 01:45:18 PM
like slint - don aman?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on September 10, 2016, 03:12:10 PM
Washer is the best Slint song tbh.

Btw, can I send a post-roulette EP? Just some songs I didn't get to send :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
sure, but i'm not train and i'm not gonna include it in my results and prob won't listen to it the requisite 5 times either (at least not now)

might include it in hangmanen tho

i was actually gonna make a random ep out of stuff not on the banned list myself and put that into hangmanen to confuse people but having you make it for me is probably better
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 10, 2016, 03:23:38 PM
Okay, I definitely have the EP composed, but I don't have a write-up ready because I spent the time I planned on writing it chatting with 425 on Skype instead. So I will send my EP on Sunday, as promised.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 03:26:20 PM
considering saturday is the day when i put new albums into rotation that's fine, gotta listen to two-three albums today to begin with  :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on September 10, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
Okay, I definitely have the EP composed, but I don't have a write-up ready because I spent the time I planned on writing it chatting with 425 on Skype instead. So I will send my EP on Sunday, as promised.
;)

I'll try follow the EP rules, but will probably include a 15-min closer :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 10, 2016, 03:31:43 PM
Okay, I definitely have the EP composed, but I don't have a write-up ready because I spent the time I planned on writing it chatting with 425 on Skype instead. So I will send my EP on Sunday, as promised.
;)

I'll try follow the EP rules, but will probably include a 15-min closer :lol

This wasn't EP-related, by the way.

And don't let him send 15-min closer. I wanted to send three songs by one band (within 12 minutes limit, and one song is under two minutes), but the rules didn't allow this so, well, tough luck.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 03:38:01 PM
if you send a 15-minute closer, i won't listen to it  :corn

you could send me a 15-minute song separate from your EP though, in which case, i might listen to it
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on September 10, 2016, 03:39:50 PM
Well, I hope you end up checking the album then, it's pretty paramacore (and I think I recommended it to you along with lots of weird metal).
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 03:40:59 PM
i haven't gotten around to checking out everything on that list quite yet but i know i've checked out a few besides the ones i already knew  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Sacul on September 10, 2016, 05:35:35 PM
EP finished, will upload it later today. Too lazy to make crossfades/edits/etc but since I'm not participating on this, I won't miss those flow points  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 10, 2016, 05:47:19 PM
i mean, that's assuming i can even be bothered to score it. maybe i'll score it lazily but not gonna be doing writeups
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 07:01:33 AM
Sent my EP! I ended up not doing any crossfades or edits too. I wanted to make my EP as eclectic and natural as possible, so my songs flow together well enough without any effects. I picked them with this in mind.

Looking forward to hangman and whatnot.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: home on September 11, 2016, 07:32:46 AM
Also just sent! Also didn't do crossfades, most songs end and start quietly anyway so they wouldn't have much effect I think.

Parama, I really hope you enjoy and aren't bored by these nearly 50 minute in total length of songs. Brace yourself  ;D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 11, 2016, 09:38:35 AM
i have received both EP's alongside evermind's essay

gonna do first listens before i start hangmanen tho  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Bolsters on September 11, 2016, 09:43:23 AM
gonna do first listens before i start hangmanen tho  :corn
>:(
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 09:53:32 AM
i have received both EP's alongside evermind's essay

It's like every person ever who I sent my EPs to said this to me. :lol

gonna do first listens before i start hangmanen tho  :corn
>:(

You should be able to guess a lot of my songs, actually.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (ROUND 6 RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 11:10:56 AM
Since hangmanen takes its sweet time to arrive, I decided to release a single from my EP. I went on to say:

I wanted to kick my EP off with an energetic power metal song. I actually considered to omit the first intro track and start my EP with this one, but I thought the transition between the beauty of the first track and the in-your-faceness or this tune would be hilarious, so I went ahead and put those tracks on the EP as they are now. I admit, it still makes me smile.

Overall, this song is straight-forward quality power metal, and it fits with what I wanted to do with my EP. I was sure I will use it from the very beginning, so I mentioned a few times in the roulette thread I'm taking this completely serious.


Head over to the link below to hear the single!

Link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnO-uRsdIgg)

Read what some credible sources had to say about the EP:

"Sounds like a good/amusing EP that Parama wonít like." ó 425

(more to be announced)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 11, 2016, 11:29:26 AM
Is it reference to Harry Potter? Pfff, they are such nerds :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 11:31:40 AM
I think it is indeed. I'm taking bets for how Parama will rate this one. Anything more than 5/10 will get the favourable odds.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Scorpion on September 11, 2016, 11:45:24 AM
Not going to lie, that would be a 6/10 at most for me. It feels very much like power metal by the numbers and doesn't bring anything new to the table that I haven't heard done better in lots of other power metal songs. Plus, I'm not a huge fan of the vocals and the ending is really abrupt.

The guitar solo is killer though, I'll admit. Definitely my favourite part of the song.

But then, we all know that Parama's taste in music is super weird, so I could see this getting anything from a 3/10 to a 9/10.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 12:11:09 PM
If you look at it like this, none of my songs bring anything new to the table, actually. Except maybe my EP closer which is currently fighting with The Light And Shade Of Things and Lucifer for my song of the year.

I don't think you even can bring anything new to the table in a standard power metal setting. Perhaps that's why I actually like this genre so much. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 11, 2016, 12:15:29 PM
There's no end
Wheel of time
It keeps on spinning
There's no beginning
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 12:20:42 PM
Exactly.

Wheel of Time isn't exactly clear power metal though, it's leaning to symphonic part of the genre.

Come on, we all need hangman to begin.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Scorpion on September 11, 2016, 12:25:45 PM
I don't think you even can bring anything new to the table in a standard power metal setting. Perhaps that's why I actually like this genre so much. :lol

I don't know if I agree with your assessment. While most power metal bands have certain musical elements in common, no other band really sounds like Avantasia, Helloween, Blind Guardian or Angra, for instance - they all have a distinct identity to their music that I find missing in bands like Hammerfall, Powerwolf or, as it is, the Serious Black song.

But I'll shut up now, don't want Parama to go into your EP with pre-conceived notions. Probably too late for that now, but oh well. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Parama on September 11, 2016, 12:29:05 PM
evermind wrote me an essay about his ep and every song on it so i already have preconceived notions  :loser:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 11, 2016, 12:30:39 PM
I like new poll.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 12:31:10 PM
I wouldn't even say Avantasia belongs to power metal genre right now. First two Metal Opera albums, sure, The Scarecrow and everything that came after it? No way. They have two or three power metal songs on each albums, and everything else is ranging from hard rock to heavy metal.

Helloween and Angra sounds just like any other power metal band for me now, to be honest, especially now that Angra signed Fabio Leone. Secret Garden was very standard power metal stuff as far as I'm concerned. They're just very good at it.

Blind Guardian are indeed unique (even though last album wasn't up to par with the rest of their discography), but they're honestly more like an exception from the rule. That's probably why I love them so much too! :lol

evermind wrote me an essay about his ep and every song on it so i already have preconceived notions  :loser:

Yep, but most of the writeups said "this song is awesome", so it's not like they were any useful for you anyway.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Scorpion on September 11, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
I like new poll.

Jeezus, how is "it" not completely crushing it? You guys have terrible taste, seriously.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
For instance, I voted "hide" because that's what Parama would want to do when he listens to my EP.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Sacul on September 11, 2016, 02:47:37 PM
Sent a bunch of awesome songs.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: home on September 11, 2016, 03:37:09 PM
Padadaa padam! Welcome back to the Evermind and home show!

Whoa Evermind just released a song from his EP? I can't stay behind!

Here is a waaaaay better song for you to enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0yuWbh8mw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0yuWbh8mw)


All I want say about it is:

Dudu dudum, Occupy! Dudu dudum, Occupy!
Dudu dudum, Occupy! Dudu dudum, Occupy!


Well boys and girls, that was the show for today, time to go to bed now.


Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 11, 2016, 03:38:40 PM
You just linked the entire playlist though







 :biggrin:
LEAKED
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Parama on September 11, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
yeah, nice job there  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: home on September 11, 2016, 03:41:46 PM
You just linked the entire playlist though







 :biggrin:
LEAKED
:facepalm: Whoops I'm tired.   Changed it, be quiet Train  ;D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 11, 2016, 03:43:58 PM
I will keep silent like the grave

Songs 4 and 5 are both awesome though :metal, #5 is my favorite from that band
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2016, 10:31:37 PM
:rollin

I'm kind of glad I missed it. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Parama on September 12, 2016, 12:50:01 AM
so it looks like this one venue here is going to have

Oct 13: Leprous + Earthside
Oct 14: Devy + BTBAM + Fallujah
Oct 15: Intronaut (+ Gorguts but I dunno them that well)
Nov 3: The Ocean

i need to figure out how to get to this venue lol i want to see every single one of these shoooows

also i've listened to evermind's EP but not home's yet and i'm too lazy to start up hangman right now. it'll be like, two weeks or so before results go up anyways probably so w/e :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 12:03:51 AM
Final Round First Impressions

This definitely just struck on a mood really well and Iím kinda wishing it was twice as long as it is, but oh well.

Itís got this ďnot quite metal but still a bit heavyĒ vibe to it. Maybe not so sure about those vocals, they kind of lack presence or power.

The song does a solid job of being dynamic enough even when maintaining a quiet mood.

I think Train really liked this one if Iím remembering correctly. I can see it really being up his alley, yeah.

The riffs and groove of this one are pretty solid and thereís a nice amount of dynamics to it. It doesnít feel particularly fresh but itís fine on the whole.

Despite its length it goes quite a number of places and I quite like where it does go.

The strings and piano and whatnot are all used pretty well and give the song a really organic feel that I quite like.

On the whole I like this, though there are some weird choices and it feels like it lacksÖ something, to make it really work.

This is basically the kind of song that I donít mind listening to but doesnít stand out enough in any way for me to really remember much about it, I feel.

Yeah, I really feel the power behind this one, whew. The singer nails it during parts of this one and the musicís doing a good job of backing him up.

Musically this song is fine enough, pretty solid though not hitting me especially hard, so hopefully the vocals grow on me because theyíre not doing much for me right now.

Itís again a pretty mellow song and again feels like itís missing a real climax, but itís pleasant enough regardless?

This song, for one, has riffs! And the riffs have a strong groove to them, which I dig. Also really liking that chorus.

I guess thatís just what the song is though. Gentle, subtle, somber. Thatís fine to be.

I donít know what to say about it, itís well orchestrated of course and sounds pleasant enough, but it just feels like itís missing an emotional factor to me.

This feels like the kind of song that works better in the context of an album than as a song on its own, really, but for what it is I do enjoy it regardless.

Oh man. I havenít had this strong a positive reaction to any other song in the roulette this far. I already have the feeling. Iíd bet this is the highest scoring song of the roulette. Letís see if it holds up.

The vocals are maybe a bit shrill for my tastes but on the whole this is pleasant enough.

Overall: One of you has a great three-song run on your EP (including, yes, that tidbit of particular note), I'll say that much right out of the gate. Like, easily three of the best songs in the roulette. And I'd say that on first listen one of the EPs definitely stood out more than the other, but I have at least 4 more listens to give each and that could easily change. We shall see. Corn. Soon. Results when splent.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 12:28:44 AM
Three best songs run can't be me. Literally every third song on my EP is a cheesy metal one. :lol I bet all the tidbits about "this is pleasant but there's no climax" are mine too.

Congrats home!
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: home on September 13, 2016, 12:30:50 AM
Three best songs run can't be me. Literally every third song on my EP is a cheesy metal one. :lol I bet all the tidbits about "this is pleasant but there's no climax" are mine too.

Congrats home!
Well it can't really be me either  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 12:33:36 AM
I'm not kidding, you'll understand it when hangman is up. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (The Evermind and home Show!!!)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 12:47:52 AM
Final Round Hangman!!!
ALRIGHT here's the rules this time around.
You have to guess. Everything. What are the song and artist names? What are the EP names? Which EP has which name? Which songs are on which EP? What order are all the songs in on each EP?

Note: There are four dummy songs that nobody sent me. Just for fun. Also that other rule was dumb I'm ignoring it actually.

Sacul's EP is in there too but honestly I haven't listened to it yet  :corn

Evermindís EP: ???
<songs go here>

homeís EP: ???
<songs go here>

Saculís EP: ???
<songs go here>

EP Titles:
___________
_________ ___ ____
____ _______ ___ ___ _____

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
_______ - ____
_____ - ______
______ - _______
_________ - _____
__________ - ______
_______ _____ - ____ ___
_______ _______ - ______
______ - ____ _____ _______
_____________ - __________
________ - ______ ____ (____)
________ _______ - _________
_______ ____ - ___ ____ _____
__________ - ______ ___ _____
_______ - ___ ____ ___ ___ ___
_________ - _________ _______
_____ __ ______ - ____ _______
_____ _______ - _____ __ _____
______ ________ - ___ __ ______
____ ________ - _______ __ ____
_______ _______ - ____ _ ________
_____ - ___ __________ __ ___ ____
_______ _____ - _ ____ __ _____ ____
________ - _________ _____ _________
_____ _______ - _ _________ __ ______
_____ __ _____ _________ - ______ ____
______ ____ - ____ _____ _____ ________
_______ ____ - ____ __ ___ ____ (_______)
______ & ___ ____ __ ____ - ________ _____
_____________ - _ ____ ______ ___ _____ (____ _)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 13, 2016, 12:56:10 AM
Sacul: Bohren & Der Club of Gore tbh
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 01:03:21 AM
Evermindís EP: ???
<songs go here>

homeís EP: ???
<songs go here>

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - ________ _____

EP Titles:
___________
_________ ___ ____
____ _______ ___ ___ _____

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
_______ - ____
_____ - ______
______ - _______
_________ - _____
__________ - ______
_______ _____ - ____ ___
_______ _______ - ______
______ - ____ _____ _______
_____________ - __________
________ - ______ ____ (____)
________ _______ - _________
_______ ____ - ___ ____ _____
__________ - ______ ___ _____
_______ - ___ ____ ___ ___ ___
_________ - _________ _______
_____ __ ______ - ____ _______
_____ _______ - _____ __ _____
______ ________ - ___ __ ______
____ ________ - _______ __ ____
_______ _______ - ____ _ ________
_____ - ___ __________ __ ___ ____
_______ _____ - _ ____ __ _____ ____
________ - _________ _____ _________
_____ _______ - _ _________ __ ______
_____ __ _____ _________ - ______ ____
______ ____ - ____ _____ _____ ________
_______ ____ - ____ __ ___ ____ (_______)
_____________ - _ ____ ______ ___ _____ (____ _)

that's not a letter tho
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 13, 2016, 01:08:10 AM
Gimme dat E.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 01:16:16 AM
Scorpion waits 3.

Letters guessed: E

Evermindís EP: ???
<songs go here>

homeís EP: ???
<songs go here>

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - _____e__ __ee_

EP Titles:
_______e_e_
_________ __e ____
__e_ _____e_ ___ ___ ____e

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
_______ - __e_
_____ - ______
______ - ____e__
E___e___e - _____
__________ - ____e_
___e__e ____e - ____ ___
_______ ______e - _e_e__
______ - ____ _e___ ____e__
_____e_______ - _________e
_______e - ____e_ ____ (___e)
________ E______ - ______e__
_______ ___e - ___ _e__ _____
_e__e____e - _____e __e ____e
_______ - ___ ____ __e ___ ___
_e_______ - _________ ____e__
_____ __ ____e_ - ____ ___e__e
_____ _______ - ___e_ __ ____e
____e_ ________ - _e_ __ ____e_
____ ______e_ - _______ __ ____
_______ ______e - ___e _ _____e__
__e__ - __e ____e_e__e __ __e ____
_e_____ _____ - _ _ee_ __ ___e_ ___e
________ - __e__e_e_ _____ _________
_____ _______ - _ ____e____ __ ____e_
_____ __ _____ _e__e_e__ - ______ ____
______ _e__ - __e_ _e___ ___e_ ________
_______ ___e - ____ __ __e ___e (_______)
_____e_______ - _ ___e _e___e __e ___e_ (____ _)

oh god
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 13, 2016, 01:23:01 AM
I'm all about dat A.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 01:29:53 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.

Letters guessed: EA (challenge everything)

Evermindís EP: ???
<songs go here>

homeís EP: ???
<songs go here>

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - _a___e__ __ee_

EP Titles:
a______e_e_
__a______ __e ____
__e_ _____e_ a__ _a_ ____e

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
A______ - A_e_
__a__ - __a___
___a__ - _a__e__
E___e___e - __a_a
__a_______ - ____e_
_a_e__e ___ae - ____ _a_
_a____a _a____e - _e_e__
______ - ____ _e___ ____ea_
_a___e_______ - _________e
_______e - ____e_ _a__ (___e)
________ E__a___ - ____a_e_a
_______ ___e - ___ _e__ _____
_e__e_a__e - __a__e __e ____e
_______ - A__ ____ __e ___ ___
_ea______ - ______a__ __a_e__
__a__ __ ____e_ - ____ ___e__e
_a___ _______ - _a_e_ __ ____e
____e_ ________ - _ea __ ____e_
_a__ ______e_ - _______ __ ____
_a____a _a____e - ___e a __a__ea_
__e__ - __e ____e_e__e __ __e ____
_e_____ __a__ - _ _ee_ __ ___e_ ___e
_a__a___ - __e__e_e_ _____ _________
_a___ _______ - A ____e____ __ ____e_
_____ __ _____ _e__e_e__ - ______ _a__
____a_ _ea_ - __e_ _ea__ ___e_ ________
_______ ___e - ____ __ __e ___e (_a__a__)
_a___e_______ - _ _a_e _e___e __e _a_e_ (_a__ _)

you're literally killing me i need to sleep good night
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 13, 2016, 01:37:24 AM
Temperance - Change The Rhyme belongs to Ruslan.

I don't actually know the song though, I don't have the latest album yet.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 01:40:47 AM
it's the only song between the two EP's I couldn't find a youtube link for too  :lol
but all correct yeah
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 01:43:03 AM
They aren't too popular, so some songs could be missing from YouTube.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 02:27:24 AM
home: Eluveitie - Isara
home: Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on September 13, 2016, 02:29:33 AM
S
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 02:39:50 AM
Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery

Probably also home's.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 08:41:17 AM
Luoto waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
Scorpion waits 1.

Letters guessed: EAS

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery


Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - _a___ess S_ee_

EP Titles:
a______e_e_
__a______ __e ____
__e_ _____e_ a__ _a_ ____e

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
A_s____ - A_es
S_a_s - __a___
___a__ - _a__ess
__a_______ - S___e_
_a_e__e ___ae - ____ _a_
_as___a _a_s__e - _e_e__
______ - ____ _e___ ____ea_
_a___e_______ - ________se
S______e - ____e_ _a__ (___e)
_______ ___e - ___ _e__ _____
_______ - A__ ___s __e ___ ___
__a__ __ ____e_ - ____ S__e__e
_a___ _______ - _a_es __ S___e
____e_ _____s__ - Sea __ ____es
_a__ ______e_ - _______ __ ____
_as___a _a_s__e - ___e a S_a__ea_
S_e_s - __e ____e_e__e __ __e ___s
Se____s __a__ - _ See_ __ ___e_ ___e
_a__a___ - __e__e_e_ _____ ________s
_a___ _______ - A ____e____ __ S___es
_____ __ _____ _e__e_e_s - ______ _a__
____a_ _ea_ - __e_ _ea__ ___es ________
_______ ___e - ___s _s __e ___e (_a__as_)
_a___e_______ - _ _a_e _e___e __e _a_e_ (_a__ _)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 11:36:46 AM
Sacul: Swans - no idea about the song

R
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 13, 2016, 01:32:29 PM
Evermind: Serious Black - That One Song Ruslan Released As A Single Release
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 01:34:47 PM
both person and artist combos are right and I'll do the hangmanen in 5 hours when I'm home
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
Quote
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - _a___ess S_ee_

Pretty sure this is like Stainless Steel only something else. Pick one:

Railless Steel
Gainless Steel
Tartness Steel
Mayoness Steel (I know it's technically mayonnaise but it didn't fit)
Baroness Steel

I have no idea. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
all of those are wrong  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 01:44:48 PM
Shit, have another five then.

Careless Steel (this one must be right, actually)
Mainless Steel
Cartless Steel
Painless Steel
Waveless Steel

I can provide another five if needed. Unless the second word isn't actually steel. :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 01:50:08 PM
one of those is right but I'm not gonna tell you which one yet
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 13, 2016, 02:05:38 PM
Okay then, I'm off to sleep. Happy guessing. My bet is on Careless Steel.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 13, 2016, 07:38:05 PM
Evermind waits 3.
Luoto waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASR

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - _ See_ __ ___er ___e

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - __a___

EP Titles:
a______ere_
__a______ __e ____
__e_ _____e_ a__ _a_ ____e

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
Ars___r - A_es
__ra__ - _a__ess
__a_______ - S___er
_a_e__e ___ae - ____ _ar
_as___a _a_s__e - _e_e_r
___rrr - ____ _e___ ____ea_
_a___e__r____ - ________se
S______e - ____e_ _a_r (___e)
_______ __re - ___ _e__ __r__
_______ - A__ ___s __e ___ ___
_ra__ __ __r_er - ___r S__e__e
_a___ ______r - _a_es __ S___e
__r_er R____s__ - Sea __ ____es
_ar_ ______er - _______ __ ____
_as___a _a_s__e - ___e a S_ar_ea_
S_e_s - __e ____ere__e __ __e __r_s
_a__a___ - __e__ere_ _____ ________s
_a___ ______r - A ____e____ __ S___es
____r __ _____ _e__e_ers - ______ _a__
_r__a_ _ear - __e_ _ea__ ___es ________
_______ __re - ___s _s __e ___e (_a__as_)
_a___e__r____ - _ _a_e _e__re __e _a_er (_ar_ _)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 13, 2016, 11:40:19 PM
___rrr - ____ _e___ ____ea_
Who could this possibly be?? :neverusethis:

Sacul: Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau

also give me d D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 12:01:52 AM
Train of Naught waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Luoto waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRD

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - _ See_ __ ___er ___e

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - __a___
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau

EP Titles:
a______ere_
__a______ __e ____
__e_ _____e_ a_d _a_ ____e

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
Ars__dr - A_es
__ra__ - _ad_ess
__a______d - S___er
_a_e__e ___ae - ___d _ar
_as___a Da_s__e - _e_e_r
_a___e__r____ - ________se
S___d__e - ___de_ _a_r (___e)
_______ __re - __d _e__ __r__
__d____ - A_d ___s __e __d ___
_ra__ __ __rder - ___r S__e__e
Da__d ______r - _a_es __ S___e
__r_er R____s__ - Sea __ ____es
_ar_ ______er - ____d__ __ ___d
_as___a Da_s__e - ___e a S_ar_ead
S_e_s - __e ____ere__e __ __e __rds
_a__a___ - __e__ered _____ ____d___s
Da__d ______r - A ____e____ __ S___es
____r __ _____ _e__e_ers - ______ _a__
_r__a_ _ear - __e_ Dea__ ___es ________
_______ __re - ___s _s __e ___e (_a__as_)
_a___e__r____ - _ _a_e _e__re __e _a_er (_ar_ _)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 14, 2016, 12:19:07 AM
Sacul: Kashiwa Daisuke - I don't know the tracks

Also, Myrath - Madness. Could be either home or misleading track.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 12:26:22 AM
artist and artist/song are correct

i'm going to say no more on the rest tbh
which kd song is sacul's, or are they both his? do you think it's home or do you think it's a dummy track? questions that must be answered
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 14, 2016, 12:43:47 AM
Low-hanging fruit, but the Serious Black song is I Seek No Other Life.

Gimme dat T.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 12:48:45 AM
Scorpion waits 3.
Train of Naught waits 2.
Evermind waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDT

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Lifee

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - ___a__
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
__a______ t_e ____
__e_ _____e_ a_d _at ___te

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
Arst_dr - A_es
Myrath - Madness
__a______d - S___er
_a_e__e ___ae - ___d _ar
Kashiwa Daisuke - _ete_r
_a_t_e__r____ - ____t___se
S___d__e - ___de_ _a_r (___e)
__t____ __re - __d _e_t __rt_
__d__t_ - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
Tra__ __ __rder - ___r S__e__e
Da__d ______r - _a_es __ St__e
__rter R____s__ - Sea __ ____es
_ar_ ______er - ____d__ __ ___d
Kashiwa Daisuke - ___e a Star_ead
S_e_s - T_e ____ere__e __ T_e __rds
_a__a___ - __e__ered ____t ____d___s
Da__d ______r - A ____e____ __ S___es
____r __ _____ _e__e_ers - ______ Ta__
_r__a_ _ear - __e_ Deat_ ___es ________
__t____ __re - T__s _s T_e T__e (_a__ast)
_a_t_e__r____ - _ _a_e _e__re T_e _ater (_art _)

i'm surprised that one of the songs here hasn't been guessed at all, all things considered
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 14, 2016, 01:31:25 AM
It's probably the one home released as a single.

Sacul: Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 14, 2016, 01:48:42 AM
L :loser:

Is the second one supposed to be Arstidir?


David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones

Both Ev's.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on September 14, 2016, 05:19:00 AM
Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 14, 2016, 05:38:52 AM
Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on September 14, 2016, 05:44:39 AM
So I broke a rule, I guess. Apologies.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: home on September 14, 2016, 05:49:35 AM
Sacul: Kashiwe Daisuke - Like a Starhead  :angel:

Also Myrath - Madness was probably sent by Evermind
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 14, 2016, 05:49:47 AM
Nah, I think that he was just kicking himself for not noticing that.

Also, Primal Fear was sent by Evermind, 100%.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 14, 2016, 06:19:18 AM
Nah, I think that he was just kicking himself for not noticing that.

Also, Primal Fear was sent by Evermind, 100%.
Yes and yes.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 14, 2016, 06:21:06 AM
There's
No surrender
I know I'll never give in
I won't stop fighting

:metal

4.5/10 from Parama.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 08:33:21 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.
Train of Naught waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTL

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - L__a__
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
__a______ t_e _l__
__e_ _____e_ a_d _at ___te

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
Arstidir - A_es
Myrath - Madness
_la_____ld - S___er
_a_elle ___ae - __ld _ar
_a_t_e__r____ - L___t___se
Sl__d__e - __lde_ _a_r (L__e)
__t____ __re - __d _e_t __rt_
__d__t_ - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
Tra_l __ __rder - ___r S_le__e
__rter R____s__ - Sea __ ____es
_ar_ _____ler - ____d__ __ ___d
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead
S_els - T_e ____ere__e __ T_e __rds
_a__a___ - __e__ered L___t ____d___s
____r __ _____ _el_e_ers - __ll__ Tal_
__t____ __re - T__s _s T_e T__e (_allast)
_a_t_e__r____ - _ _a_e _e__re T_e _ater (_art _)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 14, 2016, 08:40:47 AM
I'm seeing Janelle Monae, Shels and Trail of Murder, but I don't know the songs.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: home on September 14, 2016, 08:43:08 AM
Did Evermind sent Like a Starhead?
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 14, 2016, 08:43:45 AM
Janelle Monae will be Sacul.

The Trail of Murder song is Your Silence. More of the Evermind MP.
Title: Nothing to see here.
Post by: Sacul on September 14, 2016, 08:45:03 AM
Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live), sent by home.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on September 14, 2016, 08:46:38 AM
Sacul, I am sending you an internet high five for submitting Bohren.

o/

Treasure it, this currency is precious.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 09:07:18 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
Scorpion waits 2.
Train of Naught waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTL

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - L__a__
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - __ld _ar

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
__a______ t_e _l__
__e_ _____e_ a_d _at ___te

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
Arstidir - A_es
Myrath - Madness
_la_____ld - S___er
_a_t_e__r____ - L___t___se
__t____ __re - __d _e_t __rt_
__d__t_ - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
__rter R____s__ - Sea __ ____es
_ar_ _____ler - ____d__ __ ___d
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead
Shels - T_e ____ere__e __ T_e __rds
_a__a___ - __e__ered L___t ____d___s
____r __ _____ _el_e_ers - __ll__ Tal_
__t____ __re - T__s _s T_e T__e (_allast)
_a_t_e__r____ - _ _a_e _e__re T_e _ater (_art _)

i can't wait to get to the part where people remember you have to guess the EP track order too  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 14, 2016, 09:09:13 AM
i can't wait to get to the part where people remember you have to guess the EP track order too  :corn
I hadn't forgotten, but it seems kind of pointless to start guessing that when we don't have all the songs in each EP.

I'm guessing that home sent Arstidir by the way.
Title: Kahdhs
Post by: Sacul on September 14, 2016, 09:14:55 AM
I want the V.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 14, 2016, 09:15:02 AM
The Janelle Monae song is Cold War, and the Arstidir song is Ages.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: home on September 14, 2016, 09:23:11 AM
Sacul: Kashiwe Daisuke - Like a Starhead  :angel:

Did Evermind sent Like a Starhead?

It must be Sacul or Evermind, I did not sent it :p
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 09:29:12 AM
Sacul waits 3.
Bolsters waits 2.
Scorpion waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTLV

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - L__a__
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - Cold War

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
__a______ t_e _l__
__e_ _____e_ a_d _at ___te

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
Arstidir - Ages
Myrath - Madness
_la_____ld - S___er
_a_t_e__r____ - L___t___se
__t____ __re - __d _e_t __rt_
__d__t_ - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
__rter R____s__ - Sea __ V___es
_ar_ _____ler - ____d__ __ ___d
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead
Shels - T_e ____ere__e __ T_e __rds
_a__a___ - __e__ered L___t ____d___s
____r __ _____ _el_evers - __ll__ Tal_
__t____ __re - T__s _s T_e T__e (_allast)
_a_t_e__r____ - _ _a_e _e__re T_e _ater (_art _)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on September 14, 2016, 09:44:38 AM
Nothing More - This Is the Time (Ballast)
iamthemorning - someoneelsepleaseguessthesong

Both by home

Also: I
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 14, 2016, 09:45:14 AM
iamthemorning - someoneelsepleaseguessthesong

Definitely my favourite of their songs, great choice.  :D
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 14, 2016, 09:48:27 AM
One of the songs could be Sea of Voices.

If home didn't send Arstidir, the next most likely is Sacul.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Train of Naught on September 14, 2016, 09:50:54 AM
iamthemorning - Lighthouse sent by Evermind

I can't see Sacul sending Arstidir but its possible. Most likely Evermind though, guessing him.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 09:52:26 AM
Luoto waits 3.
Sacul waits 2.
Bolsters waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTLVI

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence
?. iamthemorning - Lighthouse
?. Arstidir - Ages

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)
?. Nothing More - This Is the Time (Ballast)

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - L__a__
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - Cold War

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
I_a_i_i__ t_e _l__
__e_ __i__e_ a_d _at __ite

Artists & Songs:
____ - ______
Myrath - Madness
_la___i_ld - S___er
__t_i__ __re - __d _e_t __rt_
I_d__ti - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
__rter R__i_s__ - Sea of Voices
_ar_ _____ler - _i__d__ __ ___d
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead
Shels - T_e ____ere__e __ T_e _irds
_a__a___ - __e__ered Li__t __i_di__s
___ir __ _____ _elievers - __ll__ Tal_
iamthemorning - I _a_e _e__re T_e _ater (_art _)

which iamthemorning song is home's?  :corn
leaving for work btw so no updates for a while
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 14, 2016, 09:53:48 AM
I can't see Sacul sending Arstidir but its possible. Most likely Evermind though, guessing him.
I didn't think Arstidir would fit very well with what other things there are in his EP though, that's what threw me off.
Title: G
Post by: Sacul on September 14, 2016, 10:14:31 AM
 Definitely didn't send Arstidir :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 14, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
I can't see Sacul sending Arstidir but its possible. Most likely Evermind though, guessing him.
I didn't think Arstidir would fit very well with what other things there are in his EP though, that's what threw me off.

This song actually fits IMO. Especially considering the song that follows it.

Both Kashiwa Daisuke and Myrath songs are duds.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 10:45:48 AM
yup, 2 of the dummy songs  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 14, 2016, 11:02:33 AM
The other iamthemorning song is I Came Before the Water (Part I), I think. If you're going with numbers instead of numerals, it could also be Part II, no way of knowing that.

The *shels song is The Conference of the Birds, maybe? I have no idea, those seem to be only words that I can think of that fit and don't have any letters missing.

Also, some more low-hanging fruit: home's single release was Gong - Occupy.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 11:15:14 AM
all of that is right
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 06:40:44 PM
ahh man, no more letters, wow

new poll, wow
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on September 14, 2016, 07:01:25 PM
One of the EP titles begins with Imagining the...
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 14, 2016, 10:33:45 PM
B
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 10:46:19 PM
Evermind waits 3.
Luoto waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTLVIB

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence
?. iamthemorning - Lighthouse
?. Arstidir - Ages

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)
?. Nothing More - This Is the Time (Ballast)

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - L__a__
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - Cold War

Portishead: Dummy (Songs)
Myrath - Madness
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
I_a_i_i__ t_e _l__
__e_ __i__e_ a_d _at __ite

Artists & Songs:
Gong - Occupy

Bla___i_ld - S___er
__t_i__ __re - __d _e_t __rt_
I_d__ti - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
__rter R_bi_s__ - Sea of Voices
_ar_ _____ler - _i__d__ __ ___d
Shels - The Conference of the Birds
_a__a___ - __e__ered Li__t B_i_di__s
___ir __ _____ Believers - __ll__ Tal_
iamthemorning - I Came Before the Water (Part 1)
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 14, 2016, 10:47:53 PM
Shels song is home's. And Gong is obviously too.

Swans song is Lunacy.

Continuing on Sacul's train of thought, the EP title is Imagining the Flow maybe?

Also, Blackfield - Summer, let's say it's Sacul's.

And there's another Nothing More track but I don't know its name.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 10:53:29 PM
Evermind waits 3.
Luoto waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTLVIB

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence
?. iamthemorning - Lighthouse
?. Arstidir - Ages

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)
?. Nothing More - This Is the Time (Ballast)
?. *Shels - The Conference of the Birds
?. Gong - Occupy

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - Lunacy
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - Cold War

Portishead: Dummy (Songs)
Myrath - Madness
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
Imagining the Flow
__e_ __i__e_ a_d _at __ite

Artists & Songs:
Blackfield - Summer
Nothing More - __d _e_t __rt_
I_d__ti - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
__rter R_bi_s__ - Sea of Voices
_ar_ _____ler - _i__d__ __ ___d
_a__a___ - __e__ered Li__t B_i_di__s
___ir __ _____ Believers - __ll__ Tal_
iamthemorning - I Came Before the Water (Part 1)

i'll give you an update for getting enough stuff right
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 14, 2016, 10:54:30 PM
I updated my previous post with more.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 14, 2016, 11:07:36 PM
i, the same
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 15, 2016, 01:00:47 AM
Sea of Voices is by somebody Robinson, Carter maybe? Or Porter? Can't think of any other names that would fit other than those two.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 15, 2016, 01:15:30 AM
pick one and stick with it  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 15, 2016, 01:37:41 AM
Okay, I'm guessing Porter Robinson.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 15, 2016, 01:39:48 AM
you guessed the right one. congrats
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 15, 2016, 01:45:21 AM
:victorydance: :victorydance:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Luoto on September 15, 2016, 01:46:25 AM
Indukti is in there.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 15, 2016, 02:25:21 PM
what are the general fan favorites for act iv btw I've been listening to it and I wanna see how weird my picks for favorites are because I feel like my picks are probably not the general consensus  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: home on September 15, 2016, 02:27:14 PM
Not sure what's the general consensus, my favourites are Waves, Remembered and Wait.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 15, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
My favourite is The Congregation and The Sermon in a Slit or whatever it's called, but I've heard only two songs from the album (the other one being King of Swords), so yeah. But I ordered it and it's somewhere on the way to me from Amazon.

Blackfield is a dummy track.
Tomislav should come here and guess one of my unguessed tracks.
iamthemorning song is mine, in case it isn't obvious yet.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 15, 2016, 02:53:48 PM
you are pretty good at finding the dummy songs  :lol
what's the last one then?  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Tomislav95 on September 15, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Evermind: Mark Knopfler - Kingdom of Gold :D
I'm so bad at this I don't even bother unless someone point me the obvious :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 15, 2016, 08:04:05 PM
Evermind waits 3.
Luoto waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTLVIB

Evermindís EP: ???
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence
?. iamthemorning - Lighthouse
?. Arstidir - Ages
?. iamthemorning - I Came Before the Water (Part 1)
?. Mark Knopfler - Kingdom of Gold

homeís EP: ???
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)
?. Nothing More - This Is the Time (Ballast)
?. *Shels - The Conference of the Birds
?. Gong - Occupy

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - Lunacy
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - Cold War

Portishead: Dummy (Songs)
Myrath - Madness
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead
Blackfield - Summer

EP Titles:
at_____ere_
Imagining the Flow
__e_ __i__e_ a_d _at __ite

Artists & Songs:
Nothing More - __d _e_t __rt_
Indukti - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
Porter Robinson - Sea of Voices
_a__a___ - __e__ered Li__t B_i_di__s
___ir __ _____ Believers - __ll__ Tal_


i kept thinking indukti was on evermind's ep but it's not, his ep actually has all the songs on it now  :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 15, 2016, 10:32:22 PM
Yeah, come on guys, try to put them in order.

Imagining the Flow is home's EP.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Sacul on September 15, 2016, 10:57:51 PM
__e_ Whiskey and cat __ite

Ev's EP.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 15, 2016, 11:06:39 PM
You got that but you didn't get the other two words? :facepalm:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 15, 2016, 11:08:05 PM
it's actually just The Antlers - Palace nine times
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 16, 2016, 01:54:52 AM
I'm guessing that Serious Black is the opener on Ev's EP. :neverusethis:

If I were making an EP with the songs that are on Evermind's, then I'd follow that one up with a calm song, but there's quite a few there. I'm guessing that maybe iamthemorning - I Came Before the Water (Part I) is the second track? And maybe Kingdom of Gold as the closer? I'm literally just guessing here.

On home's EP - which is again, based on what I would do - I'd open the whole thing with Ludivico Einaudi and close it with Slowdive, because I find that live tracks in the middle of an EP rarely work and I can't see Golden Hair as an opener. Since Gong was released as a single, I'm guessing it's track 2, maybe? Not sure if home thinks like many bands do who put their single-y track as the second on the album.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 16, 2016, 02:17:05 AM
I'm guessing that Serious Black is the opener on Ev's EP. :neverusethis:

This is close, but not exactly right.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 16, 2016, 02:21:46 AM
I'm guessing that Serious Black is the opener on Ev's EP. :neverusethis:

This is close, but not exactly right.

Right, you said something about a short intro track. Then... just going by track lengths, I'm guessing that iamthemorning - I Came Before the Water (Part I) is the opener and then segues into I Seek No Other Life.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 16, 2016, 02:35:49 AM
"Segues" is a mighty word for that transition, to be honest. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 16, 2016, 02:46:16 AM
When Whiskey and Cat Unite.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 16, 2016, 09:30:40 AM
Evermind waits 3.
Luoto waits 2.
Sacul waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTLVIB

Evermindís EP: When Whisky and Cat Unite
1. iamthemorning - I Came Before the Water (Part 1)
2. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence
?. iamthemorning - Lighthouse
?. Arstidir - Ages
?. Mark Knopfler - Kingdom of Gold

homeís EP: Imagining the Flow
1. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Nothing More - This Is the Time (Ballast)
?. *Shels - The Conference of the Birds
?. Gong - Occupy
8. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)

Saculís EP: ???
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - Lunacy
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - Cold War

Portishead: Dummy (Songs)
Myrath - Madness
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead
Blackfield - Summer

EP Titles:
at_____ere_

Artists & Songs:
Nothing More - __d _e_t __rt_
Indukti - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
Porter Robinson - Sea of Voices
_a__a___ - __e__ered Li__t B_i_di__s
___ir __ _____ Believers - __ll__ Tal_
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Bolsters on September 16, 2016, 09:46:44 AM
C
Title: fcc
Post by: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 10:25:42 AM
Nothing More - God Went North

That and Porter Robinson are on home's EP.
Title: Re: fcc
Post by: home on September 16, 2016, 11:56:57 AM
That and Porter Robinson are on home's EP.
Nah I guess Porter Robinson is a dummy song   :P
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 16, 2016, 12:29:52 PM
it is, and the only dummy song I actually know  :lol
its pretty good btw
Title: Lel
Post by: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 02:44:22 PM
Someone guess my EP title and remaining song pls :corn
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 17, 2016, 12:08:16 AM
Bolsters waits 3.
Evermind waits 2.
Luoto waits 1.

Letters guessed: EASRDTLVIBC

Evermindís EP: When Whiskey and Cat Unite
1. iamthemorning - I Came Before the Water (Part 1)
2. Serious Black - I Seek No Other Life
?. Temperance - Change the Rhyme
?. David Gilmour - Faces of Stone
?. David Gilmour - A Pocketful of Stones
?. Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking
?. Trail of Murder - Your Silence
?. iamthemorning - Lighthouse
?. Arstidir - Ages
?. Mark Knopfler - Kingdom of Gold

homeís EP: Imagining the Flow
1. Ludovico Einaudi - Primavera
?. Eluveitie - Isara
?. Beardfish - Voluntary Slavery
?. Nothing More - This Is the Time (Ballast)
?. *Shels - The Conference of the Birds
?. Gong - Occupy
?. Nothing More - God Went North
8. Slowdive - Golden Hair (Live)

Saculís EP: at_____ere_
?. Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Painless Steel
?. Swans - Lunacy
?. Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau
?. Kashiwa Daisuke - Meteor
?. Janelle Monae - Cold War
?. Indukti - A_d ___s T_e __d ___
?. _a__ac__ - C_e__ered Li__t B_i_di__s
?. C__ir __ _____ Believers - __ll__ Tal_

Portishead: Dummy (Songs)
Myrath - Madness
Kashiwa Daisuke - Like a Starhead
Blackfield - Summer
Porter Robinson - Sea of Voices

moved everything because it's all obvious now. also woops forgot to update this when i got home rip
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Scorpion on September 17, 2016, 02:29:07 AM
The Indukti song is ...And Who's the God Now?, which I did look up, sue me. This wasn't advancing anyway.

Also, some random guesses as to ordering.

Eluveitie is #2 on home's EP.
One of the two Nothing More tracks is #3 on home's EP.
Gong is #4 on home's EP.
*shels is #6 on home's EP.

Trail of Murder is #3 on Evermind's EP.
Lighthouse closes Evermind's EP.

Lunacy is #1 on Sacul's EP.


Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 17, 2016, 02:33:42 AM
the only things correct in that post are the song title and that lighthouse is evermind's closer
Title: Noice
Post by: Sacul on September 17, 2016, 08:38:08 AM
I really recommend you that Indukti song, Scorp. Seems up your alley.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 17, 2016, 12:56:13 PM
what are the general fan favorites for act iv btw I've been listening to it and I wanna see how weird my picks for favorites are because I feel like my picks are probably not the general consensus  :corn
i forgot to follow up on this, but rn my faves are if all goes well, wait, and waves in that order
ouroboros would be great if the last two minutes weren't a really disappointing ending to the album too
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 19, 2016, 12:26:05 AM
four listens into both EPs so i might do writeups on next listen.

fairly sure who's gonna win the whole thing at this point though. wouldn't say i really love either of the EPs but one of them I do like a decent bit more than the other, at this moment in time, and I find that unlikely to change too dramatically with only one more listen so.

probably won't have results up until wednesday at the earliest, since tuesday i'm going to see haken + tys
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 21, 2016, 11:58:27 PM
ok i'll do this soon i swear.
have really been feeling exhausted today, and writing is actually pretty tough when you are exhausted

hopefully friday i can have results up ???
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Evermind on September 22, 2016, 12:27:55 AM
Just end my misery already.
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: Parama on September 22, 2016, 01:02:43 AM
it's my fault for hosting an EP round tbh. the one in my first one didn't go spectacularly and i can't say i'm particularly impressed by either EP this time either but w/e my fault for hosting this thing.

i dunno if i'll even run a roulette next year at this rate, it's really draining and this one's been relatively disappointing all things considered
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL ROUND LISTENING)
Post by: home on September 22, 2016, 03:58:58 AM
So basically one of us just screwed up a little more than the other?  :lol
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 23, 2016, 11:45:03 PM
Evermind: When Whiskey and Cat Unite

iamthemorning Ė I Came Before the Water (Part 1) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGgXJ08FQ7k)

First Impressions:
Well, itís a simple and brief intro. The vocals are maybe a bit shrill for my tastes but on the whole this is pleasant enough. Not reallyÖ much else to say, especially on a time crunch!

Final Thoughts:
As an intro track, Iíd say this does set the tone pretty well. Some lovely string-heavy textures and a lonely vocal line. Very brief though. Iím still not sure Iím a huge fan of the vocals, but theyíreÖ alright. But as a song by itself, this really just doesnít have much time to even offer much, unfortunately. And I donít have the time to say much more, either. This would probably work better in the context of its own album, and it feels a bit unfair to judge it here on its own, but thatís the roulette format, I suppose.

5.5/10 (#17 of 18)



Serious Black Ė I Seek No Other Life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnO-uRsdIgg)

First Impressions:
I legitimately canít tell these vocals apart from Avantasia or Blind Guardian. It sounds like the exact same singer. Iím not particularly noticing any other qualities about this song at all, either. The vocals take center stage pretty heavily. Most of the guitar work is background chugging, the drums are straightforward and energetic but pretty standard. Well okay there is one solid riff and the guitar soloís fine enough. This is basically the kind of song that I donít mind listening to but doesnít stand out enough in any way for me to really remember much about it, I feel.

Final Thoughts:
Yes, the contrast between the previous song and this one is suitably jarring and I know you did that on purpose. As for the song itself. Uhh. I saidÖ basically everything there is to say in my first impressions writeup. Thereís a decent amount of power and energy to this that I can kind of get caught up in if I donít think about it too much. But if I do think about it too much I tend to notice how spectacularly standard this song is in every way.

I wonít say thatís necessarily a bad thing to be, but for me, yeahÖ you know I like my unique, memorable stuff quite well and this just doesnít do it for me in any real way. But I mean, I donít particularly dislike it either, itís just unlikely Iíll ever remember it.

6/10 (#15 of 18)



ŃrstŪūir Ė Ages (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMycpTRoInE)

First Impressions:
Really liking the vocal harmonies at the start here for some reason, canít put my finger on why but theyíre nice. The song does a solid job of being dynamic enough even when maintaining a quiet mood. The strings help too, always nice. A bit of a simple track and maybe not especially satisfying as a ballad but itís nice enough.

Final Thoughts:
Yeah, the vocals are the clear highlight of this track, the harmonizations are pretty strong and both voices are rather pleasant on the ears naturally. And the vocals have a nice build to them throughout, while still being anchored on a main melody.

The repeating guitar line throughout this is probably the element I like the least, itís a bit too repetitive in its structure and a bit generic too. Itís the kind of guitar line always used to give things a bit of a folky feel, which it accomplishes here I suppose, but it isnít especially interesting on its own. The strings and horns and piano and everything else though, they create a great atmosphere for the vocals to play off of.

It does feel like the track ends a bit anticlimactically, or ends before it really hits its stride, or something along those lines. It doesnít have any climax to build to, I suppose, which is probably its biggest failing, but that aside itís an enjoyable enough track, though I canít say it hits me especially hard.

7.25/10 (#9 of 18)



David Gilmour Ė Faces of Stone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MlGYgmzk9Y)

First Impressions:
The somber piano intro is pretty effective if I say so myself. I really like that kind of sound in general, though. I thought this was going to be a straightforward ballad at first but thereís circus music or something in the background for some reason? Which isÖ an interesting choice. I guess itís more like polka though? Or something? I dunno. The guitar solo is, unsurprisingly, pretty great. I mean, itís David Gilmour here. The song feels like it lacks a climax though, and ends a bit unceremoniously. On the whole I like this, though there are some weird choices and it feels like it lacksÖ something, to make it really work.

Final Thoughts:
Honestly that verse is so out of place here. Whatís that weird melody doing anywhere near the rest of this song? Why is there polka? This doesnít even work with this part of the song, much less the rest of the song that surrounds it, which is a more straightforward ballad track. Sure, the weird bits give it flavor, butÖ flavor in a bad way, Iíd say.

The rest of the song though is quite good, really. I really like the piano intro, probably more than any other part of the song, and I canít put my finger on why. The guitar solos are both quite solid, especially the longer one near the end, and thereís a pretty solid moment of build after the first brief solo. I think that bit was supposed to serve as the climax? But it comes too early and doesnít hit hard enough. The outro solo could also be the climax, but it never feels like it reaches the peak of what itís building too and fades out before it gets the chance.

Itís a bit of a malformed song in that regards, and with regards to the random polka on the verses as well. Thereís parts of this song that I like, but it just doesnít feel particularly well thought-out or stitched together right.

Also, I never commented on the vocals I guess. Theyíre fine. Never been a massive fan of Gilmour as a singer, but heís fine here, sure.

6.75/10 (#12 of 18)



Primal Fear Ė When Death Comes Knocking (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji69bBD2lEs)

First Impressions:
Yeah, will already agree with what you said in your essay, this is much more up my alley than Serious Black. This song, for one, has riffs! And the riffs have a strong groove to them, which I dig. Also really liking that chorus. Though Iím not finding much else to talk about here. The sitar (?) bit in the middle is fine albeit maybe a bit clichť at this point really. On the whole itís a solid metal tune though, sure. May need more listens to really pick it apart though.

Final Thoughts:
The transition from the previous song into this one works pretty well with that quiet intro. It gives a bit of breathing room before the song kicks in. Though honestly this isnít especially heavy, but that main riff does have a really nice groove to it.

I said I might need more listens to pick it apart, butÖ no, this is definitely a ďwhat you see is what you getĒ kind of song. Thereís not a ton of meat on the bones of this track, but Iím alright with that when the main basis of the song, namely that main riff and that chorus, are both pretty strong.

The only bit of flavor comes in the sitar bit in the middle and the way the crushing guitars play off it, and while, yeah, itís a bit standard for this kind of power metal track, itís executed well enough to be interesting regardless. The guitar solo is pretty solid too, though thereís a weird bit where it sounds like itís about to end but then goes on for a few more measures, and those last few measures are maybe a bit disposable in comparison to the rest.

But yeah. Pretty basic song structure here and I could see myself getting tired of this one if you gave me more time to spin it, but as it is I do like this a decent bit.

7.5/10 (#5 of 18)



Mark Knopfler Ė Kingdom of Gold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5s2NDV1Nhg)

First Impressions:
Folk music wasnít what I expected from this artist but sure I can roll with it. Ahh, hmm. This is probably a very nitpicky thing and it came up with The Flower Kings before but. Vocalists that just sound reallyÖ old, I always have trouble with. Itís just simply not a style I like. And I worry thatís going to hold true here. Musically this song is fine enough, pretty solid though not hitting me especially hard, so hopefully the vocals grow on me because theyíre not doing much for me right now.

Final Thoughts:
Önnnnnope. Donít like those vocals at all. Just doesnít do it for me. It doesnít help that the vocal melody itself is reeeally repetitive, and the same melody that the flute and violin around it plays too. That melody is the only thing I ever remember about this because itís a bit hammered in. But really the problem here is just the timbre of his voice. Itís too gravelly and deep for me, itís just specifically a style that has little appeal to me. I wouldnít say heís a bad singer or anything, just not what Iím looking for.

Of course, the vocals dominate a lot of this song, and what they donít dominate is mostly dominated by the flute and violin line that, while it has a decent amount of swell to it, gets old pretty quick on multiple listens. Thereís a lot of parts of this song that sound fairly empty and only a few points where the song really builds to anything; the bit near 4:15 has a nice build going, a climax that some of the other songs on this EP have lacked, but itís pretty brief.

I just donít feel thereís much about this song that makes me want to come back to it. Musically itís little else besides flute and violin driving one melody and the occasional buildup, and the vocals are simply not my style. Gonna have to call this one a definite miss, I think.

4.5/10 (#18 of 18)



David Gilmour Ė A Pocketful of Stones (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6f5xUpyUY0)

First Impressions:
Gilmour really likes his stones, huh? Comedy. Musically this is leaning more towardsÖ classical than anything else. Piano and strings and all. Though the strings especially are what makes me feel that, with the way theyíre arranged. Itís again a pretty mellow song and again feels like itís missing a real climax, but itís pleasant enough regardless? Again the guitar solo is pretty solid, as well.

Final Thoughts:
This song has one major thing over the other Gilmour song on this EP: no polka. Nothing to break the mood or feel horribly out of place. I already like it more simply on that basis alone.

Thereís anÖ interesting atmosphere to this song. Itís very tense, Iíd say. The slow atmospheric buildup, the very melancholic strings and pianos behind the vocals, the vocal melodies that sound kind of like a ballad track from a stage play, in the sense that thereís some kind of hopeful sound to them, that the music significantly undercuts in the best way.

Again though this is definitely lacking a climax to tie everything all together. It does build up at a few points and the guitar solo has some swell behind it, but it never feels like it reaches the peak that it should, and cuts off kind of abruptly at the end.

I would say I do like this, but it again doesnít hit me especially hard and Iím not sure Iím going to remember it very well. Pleasant enough song though, sure.

7.25/10 (#7 of 18)



Trail of Murder Ė Your Silence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNimW2q1yRU)

First Impressions:
What is it about power metal singers that make them all sound so similar? That holds for both male and female vocals by the way. This guy sounds really similar to the Vanden Plas guy. I mean, I donít really mean that as an insult as he sounds fine enough, butÖ ehh, whatever. Anyways. The riffs and groove of this one are pretty solid and thereís a nice amount of dynamics to it. It doesnít feel particularly fresh but itís fine on the whole. Not much else to say.

Final Thoughts:
This song finds a nice balance between the Serious Black song and the Primal Fear song, in that its riffs have a nice amount of groove, but also more energy than the latter. The drums kind of keep that energy going throughout the verse, too, even with the quieter, more subtle sound. And I also really dig the punchy chugging that cuts through the atmosphere of the second verse. Itís a neat way to mix things up a little.

The chorus of this one is a little underwhelming though. Doesnít really feel like it has much power to it, the vocal lines arenít very memorable, itís basically overshadowed by every other part of the song. The guitar solo here is pretty tasteful, a decent balance of shred and melodic hooks, doesnít go on too long and isnít overindulgent, I dig it.

As with all the other metal tracks here, there isnít a ton to this one, itís pretty simple, but as a straightforward metal song Iím pretty fine with it. I feel like Iíd grow tired of this one a little less quickly than Primal Fear but I also donít like it quite as much at the moment.

7.25/10 (#10 of 18)



Temperance Ė Change the Rhyme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxx24ajvck8)

First Impressions:
Second time Iíve been unable to find a song anywhere online (edit: the album is out now so never mind), though that could be because this albumís not out yet apparently. Anyways. Big bombastic intro you got there, huh? This is like the first song to have female vocals since the iamthemorning track, I think, a surprising lack of those coming from you. I uhh. Canít find much else to say about this though. Itís a pretty solid symphonic metal track. The strings and piano and whatnot are all used pretty well and give the song a really organic feel that I quite like. Donít know if it will be particularly memorable though.

Final Thoughts:
Actually, the vocals on this track are probably my favorite on any track here besides the ŃrstŪūir track, given further listens. The chorus here is a bit strange and ends on this kind of jagged melody that I weirdly dig.

Itís cool how this song continues building up every moment until about the midpoint; the first chorus outdoing the first verse, the second verse outdoing that chorus, and then the second chorus really exploding into life. It gives the song a really strong sense of direction. And the bridge that follows the chorus is pretty solid too, having a second singer in there helps. The little break before the final chorus, that little bit of breathing room, really helps the final chorus hit with more power, too. Without that itíd just be a wall of sound from the middle to the back of the track. Smart touch, that.

What I wish this song did better was its riffs, though, I canít say there are any compelling riffs here. The piano and strings do help carry the song musically, and the quieter moments have some neat touches as well, but itís a very vocal-centric song by design. Still like it a decent bit, but like the other metal tracks here, would probably get tired of it given more listens. Solid.

7.25/10 (#8 of 18)



iamthemorning Ė Lighthouse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os3OLXT02hg)

First Impressions:
So this is the song your competition gave a 9.25, huh? Letís see then. The freeflowing piano work here at the start is pretty nice. Thus far though Iím kind ofÖ waiting for the song to really start? Thus far it feels a bit empty, I suppose. I guess thatís just what the song is though. Gentle, subtle, somber. Thatís fine to be. Oh, never mind, the song does kick in when Mariusz joins the party. Will freely admit heís never been one of my favorite singers or anything but heís fine and he creates a nice counterpoint to the female vocals here. The last two minutes here are definitely more my style than the first four but itís solid on the whole. Probably not a 9.25 though, sorry.

Final Thoughts:
I can see the appeal of this, sure. I guess, for me, the watery piano throughout a lot of this song, the lack of any consistent rhythm, doesnít particularly work for me though. Especially when a lot of it feels like, not a unison between the piano and vocals, but a tradeoff, two elements not really working in harmony in any real way.

The song does come together a bit more on the chorus, having a consistent rhythm and a solid vocal melody. And the chorus at the end with drums and strings and the addition of a second singer, it works pretty well. The two vocalists work off each other pretty well and the vocal melody the chorus is based around is really pretty nice, yeah. And the song gets points for actually having a solid climax to make the song really feel complete.

But as a wholeÖ most of this just kind of bores me, sadly. Iíll gladly listen to the last two minutes but that leaves an entire third of the song that just doesnít do a ton for me. And even the last two minutes arenít spectacular, just pretty good. I do wish I liked this more than I do, itís a bit unfortunate really.

6.5/10 (#14 of 18)



Overall EP thoughts:
I can kind of see where youíre coming from with this EP; the quieter tunes are all diverse enough to stand out, and the metal tunes are all diverse enough to stand out, nothing here ever really got too confused in my mind. Itís mostly just a shame that not a single track on this EP really does a lot for me, though thereís only one I actively dislike, and itís not, awful or anything.

As far as flow and structure goes, I think you did a pretty decent job. The brief intro track sets the stage, and, well, the Serious Black song kind of destroys it, but the rest of the songs flow together pretty well, and thereís a balance between the quieter and louder tracks to keep things dynamic.

Itís a pretty well-constructed EP, I wouldnít say thereís any one song here that feels like a notable outlier from the rest, though obviously thereís a bit of a gap between the metal tracks and the ballads, but not one wide enough to create a disconnect, and it mostly just creates a nice sense of dynamics.

8/10
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 23, 2016, 11:45:24 PM
home: Imagining the Flow

Ludovico Einaudi Ė Primavera (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmxFAT581T4)

First Impressions:
Itís really impressive that you managed to send not one but two songs from artists I received in my first rouletteís EP round, and on top of that two of the lowest scoring ones, so uhh, hopefully these are better songs? Anyways, for classical-type stuff this is pretty fine. Iíll fully admit that this isnít my usual fare though. And it serves as a pretty nice intro too. I donít know what to say about it, itís well orchestrated of course and sounds pleasant enough, but it just feels like itís missing an emotional factor to me. Which is a feeling I often get from classical music, donít really know why but. Yeah.

Final Thoughts:
All things considered, this seems like a weird thing to send me in particular. But, maybe not that weird, since seneca sent the same artist as the opener of his EP and he won the roulette. Not because of the Ludovico Einaudi song he sent me though, in fact it was one of my least favorite tracks of the round. I wouldnít say the same about this track though.

I do think this song does have a pretty nice sense of build to it, it starts off soft and somber and gradually builds up to, for classical, a pretty satisfying level of intensity. Thereís definitely some degree of power to it, for sure. The fast string lines build a great sense of tension when the build reaches its peak.

It is definitely a bit longer than Iíd want it to be though; cut the length of this track in half and Iíd like it a lot more, especially since a lot of the second half feels like retreading ideas from the first half in a not particularly interesting way. The climax at the end of the track is a bit bigger than the one near the middle of the track, but not by a lot, and itís a lot of the same general string lines.

Thatís about as many coherent thoughts as I think Iíll be able to put together for this. Like I said, not really my genre, but this is certainly fine enough, I wouldnít mind listening to it again, though it sort of feels like I listen to it twice every time I listen to it once, soÖ

7/10 (#11 of 18)



*Shels Ė The Conference Of The Birds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlHSEiociJs)

First Impressions:
Transition to this from the previous track works really nicely. And Iím pretty okay with how this starts, a straightforward post-rock feel but itís got a nice amount of texture to it. Yeah, definitely feels pretty straightforward and pretty simple thus far about halfway in. And then oops itís a lot heavier all of the sudden, sure. This feels like the kind of song that works better in the context of an album than as a song on its own, really, but for what it is I do enjoy it regardless.

Final Thoughts:
I feel like I have little to say on any part of this song, as it makes more sense to just discuss the track as a whole.

Mmm, yeah, I really find myself digging this the more I relisten to it. Itís got that great, majestic sound that I like in my atmospheric music, and it has that sound rather effortlessly, or at least feels that way. Itís really a pretty simple track. Straightforward rhythm, lots of basic guitar chord strumming and straightforward drumming. Yet it all works pretty well together.

And the way the song flows is really well-executed; thereís that initial build to a satisfying atmosphere that backs off for a shorter build until the song really explodes into life; thereís a great sense of tension when you know the song is building to that burst of heaviness but hasnít quite reached it yet and itís conveyed pretty well through the music.

I kind of wish there were more of the ethereal, drowned-out vocals on the track, because they work pretty well here, just naturally sliding in beside the instrumentation and creating another layer of texture that adds some emotional depth to the song.

I will say that the horns that come in during the later parts of the song donít sound spectacular, and they end up a bit unfortunately drowned out when the song reaches its loudest, but itís a nice touch to have regardless. The song also feels like it could hold on its final climax a bit longer, but it doesnít overstay its welcome at the length its at nor does it really feel over too soon, so thatís more of a nitpick than anything.

The biggest knock against this song is that it isnít really particularly special for what it is, and while I do enjoy listening to it I worry if Iíll remember it in a few monthsí time. Perhaps Iíll check out the album and see if it really sticks then, weíll see.

8/10 (#3 of 18)



Eluveitie Ė Isara (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufk7uoVyOMI)

First Impressions:
Short little folk track here. With the addition of some drums in the background that make it a bit unique, itís kind of folk rock but really mostly the folk? Despite its length it goes quite a number of places and I quite like where it does go. Not much to say beyond that at this point, out of time.

Final Thoughts:
Honestly, Iím not sure what to say about this one regardless. ItísÖ a fine little folky interlude and a pretty nice breather track after two lengthier tracks on the EP. ButÖ thereís not much too it besides that one leading melody, and a bit of buildup when the drums come in. ItísÖ fine, but it doesnít particularly interest me, on a stylistic level as well as on a song level. Not much to say, really. Itís fine? Way past out of time to write on this one though.

5.75/10 (#16 of 18)



Nothing More Ė This Is The Time (Ballast) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5fE-Zl-V4)

First Impressions:
The production on this for the first minute is reeeally strange. That vocal effect, the weirdly muted bit before the song really kicks in that just soundsÖ unfortunately muddy. I donít think it sounds awful either but theyíre definitely some weird  production choices Iím not sure I agree with. When the song kicks in itísÖ pretty solid metal, yeah. The singer sounds really poppy, but more in a phrasing/rhythmic way, the way the vocal melodies are structured especially. Probably the kind of song that needs more listens but Iím pretty okay with this as is, yeah. I think Train really liked this one if Iím remembering correctly. I can see it really being up his alley, yeah.

Final Thoughts:
I vaguely like this up until the 1:30 minute mark, which is the first point where something really cool happens in the song for me. Still canít say I dig the production on the first minute, though the part that bugs me the most is the bit right before the heavy riff kicks in, it just sounds bad.

But yeah at the 1:30 minute mark thereís a really catchy vocal line that comes in and a noodle guitar line that plays off the energy of the vocals quite well. And the chorus is pretty dang strong too, the singer sounds really into it and sells the power of the chorus pretty well.

The one thing that bugs me about this the most is the vague influence of nu-metal that creeps throughout a lot of this track; it explains the weirdly electronicized bits and the main riff definitely has traces of that sound. As well the timbre of the vocals could be described as ďa bit whinyĒ.

But in the end I suppose itís all little things that donít add up to a bad song, rather a pretty solid one. It doesnít feel like thereís a ton to this one either, though. Probably because of how long it takes to get started? After that itís verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus end. Still. Itís fine enough, yeah.

7.75/10 (#4 of 18)



Beardfish Ė Voluntary Slavery (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Ylnewb3Ic)

First Impressions:
So as long as this isnít a jokey song about a misrepresentation of homosexuality with annoying moments of rotten cheese Iíll hopefully be fine with this, because I was pretty okay with South of the Border musically for the most part but just eeeuugh to the vibe of the song in general. This definitely sounds more like a real song Iíd actually want to listen to right off the bat though. Itís got this ďnot quite metal but still a bit heavyĒ vibe to it. Maybe not so sure about those vocals, they kind of lack presence or power. I feel like the mixing or production of this really lets it down. Everything kind of feels like it blurs together, it seems really muddy.

Final Thoughts:
Kind of feel like I havenít given this one enough listens yet, it comes off as pretty interesting stylistically; thereís a rough sound to the whole song, with a lot of palm muted guitar bits, and a big bass presence throughout. And thereís all these little background flourishes that are slightly unsettling. I think thatís the attitude they were going for with this song though.

The vocals, too, have a bit of a rough edge to them, though in that case Iím not sure they quite work in the songs favor, since I canít say Iím a fan of the vocals. Maybe itís something about the vocal melodies, too, they donít particularly grab me, but I think itís more the rough-edged timbre of the vocalist. He just doesnít sell that style for me very well.

The song also definitely feels a bit meandering. I sort of justÖ spaced out listening to this because thereís this stretch in the middle whereÖ not a lot happens musically. The song hits upon that one jagged riff with some not particularly interesting soloing going on for a while.

I definitely feel itís a bit premature of me to judge this since of all the tracks here I feel like this is the one I have the weakest general grasp on, but, I donít know. I donít mind this but itís not making me want to go out and listen to a lot of Beardfish either.

6.75/10 (#13 of 18)



Gong Ė Occupy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0yuWbh8mw)

First Impressions:
Okay my immediate vibe from this one is ďShining, but not as heavy/abraisiveĒ. But daaang this hits on a mood for me. Chaotic, jazzy, rigorously tight prog with delicious saxophones. It looks like this is a pretty old band thatís still making music to this day? It kind of shows, thereís definitely a sense of experience to this song. This definitely just struck on a mood really well and Iím kinda wishing it was twice as long as it is, but oh well.

Final Thoughts:
Okay, giving this one more listens, I definitely feel the initial shock of it wore off a little and the curtains drew back to reveal that thereís not exactly a ton of depth to this song. Thereís some degree of chaos, but itís very organized and very predictable once you know what the songís going for. Thereís two main sections to the louder parts and then the cooldown bit that follows.

The sax wailing throughout is probably the most interesting thing overall, since itís far less predictable, and I suppose the drums keep the energy and frantic feeling going quite strong. Even if it feels a bit stretched thin, Iíd definitely say Iím still onboard with this song stylistically. I just wish there was a bit more too it.

It sort of feels likeÖ an idea for a really cool song that they didnít really flesh out and just left as this short little proof of concept track, thatís pretty neat to listen to on its own, sure, but wears out its welcome pretty fast and leaves you craving something meatier. I like it, sure, but Iíd love to like it more, and I feel like the potential was there for something cooler and more interesting. But ehh.

7.5/10 (#6 of 18)



Nothing More Ė God Went North (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKmU9sIb_uw)

First Impressions:
That intro buildup is already giving me better feelings about this one than the other song you sent from them. The middle of this song too, with the multiple layers of vocals going on, thatís a pretty cool moment. Yeah, I really feel the power behind this one, whew. The singer nails it during parts of this one and the musicís doing a good job of backing him up. I donít think this song is firing on all cylinders throughout its entire runtime but when itís on itís pretty dang on.

Final Thoughts:
So uhh. On first listen I liked this. On relistensÖ geez. The entire build of this song. So well-paced. It starts out quiet and ambient, and just keeps building and building, to the point where only a really grand climax would be satisfying and anything else would be underwhelming.

Thereís this break from the songís flow at 1:40 thatís just utterly haunting. The vocals sound so strained, it feels like all hell is about to let loose. And well, it doesnít quite there, but I mean, it gets there eventually. I just really like that particular bit.

And from the halfway point the song is justÖ great, really. The big high note at 3:30 that transitions into the big climax of the song is utterly breathtaking, honestly. Thereís a sense of vertigo right when he hits that high note and the crushing layers of guitars come in. The song maybe doesnít quite hold up the climactic feel until its end but itís a very satisfying climax for the build before it, regardless.

And the song maybe couldíve ridden its high out a bit longer, but I do like where they went with it instead, this really quite cooldown that has its own build into a gorgeous choir of voices. Works really well.

If every part of this song was as good as the best parts of the song, itíd easily be my favorite song of the whole roulette, but even as it is itís still a damn strong song and one I enjoy listening to every time.

8.75/10 (#1 of 18)



Slowdive Ė Golden Hair (Live) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1DkfphhRFw)

First Impressions:
Yeah, having a crowd noise at the start might not be the best for flow but WHATEVER. Peeking at this band on RYM and they seem like Zantera/Sacul music more than anything else, hipstercore thatís pretty highly rated. Time to hate on them ahahehehe. Not really though. This has a nice, ethereal sound to it that Iím generally a fan of. Itís very chill, very pleasant. And the way it builds up to a really dense, fuzzy atmosphere. And the drums, doing their own thing during it all. I like it. Sort of hits uponÖ Oceansize vibes, I think, this is such an Oceansize closer track, I can definitely see why you put it as your closer for sure. Hot damn, that ending. Oh man. I havenít had this strong a positive reaction to any other song in the roulette this far. I already have the feeling. Iíd bet this is the highest scoring song of the roulette. Letís see if it holds up.

Final Thoughts:
I think the biggest flaw of this song for me is that it takes a little bit to get going. The dreamy, ethereal vibe at the start is nice, but it doesnít really pull me in until the 2 minute mark when the full band enters.

What really ties the song together for me for the next phase is that driving drumline, with the bass accompanying it; they tie the twinkly guitar lines and warm ambience of the track together and give it a sense of direction.

As well, the drums are the main driving factor into the build of the song, which is, for lack of a better word, awesome. Like, the way the song starts building at the 4 minute mark to eventually reach this roaring wall of sound, dense guitar lines practically screeching out of my speakers, with the drums continuing to tie everything together, and picking up the momentum of the guitars as the song goes forward.

Iíll be honest, I have a weakness for the spastic, chaotic drums like the final climax of this song and a bit of the earlier section has. But especially the drums at the end, they are just plain awesome. Itís basically exactly what Train said about Djakninn in his roulette; the drums have such an emotional charge to them that itís almost impossible to not get caught up in them, and they have a really intense wall of sound in the background to play off of, so itís not just like theyíre going crazy for nothing. It all comes together for a really, really satisfying finale, both to the song and the EP.

If the entirety of this song were as good as its best moments, again, itíd easily be my favorite of the roulette. As it is, I think itís juuuust edged out by Wilderun, and maybe the previous song on your EP as well (2 in one EP though, wow) but it could overtake them if I gave this a few more spins, Iíd bet.

8.75/10 (#2 of 18)



Overall EP thoughts:
Some of the track placement on here feels really well-thought out; especially God Went North as a second-to-last track. It has a really grand and massive climax to it, but ends with that quieter phase that doesnít quite resolve the EP on its own. And then throwing the relatively chill but still pretty grand Golden Hair after to really bring things to a satisfying conclusion, itís a one-two punch of great songs that play off each other really well.

Primavera also makes a solid opening track and I think Shels was the right choice to follow it with, they flow into each other well and having a bit of a bigger song following the intro track is always a solid structure. Everything else in between feelsÖ a bit there, in comparison, Eluveitie is a nice interlude I suppose, and the next three tracks could basically be in any order and itíd hardly matter.

Iím not especially sure all of the songs here particularly feel like they go together, as well; Ludovico Einaudi and Beardfish are about as stylistically opposite as possible without going full grindcore or something ridiculous, and the Gong track feels a little out of place as well, even if itís a fairly solid song on its own merits. It sort of just feels like a collection of songs you liked more than a really cohesive EP during the middle stretch, but I mean, I kind of said that the EP score would be relatively minor compared to the individual song scores, so thatís fair enough.

Itís still pretty functional as an EP regardless, and considering the quality of a good chunk of the songs, I canít really complain.

7/10
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL RESULTS)
Post by: Parama on September 23, 2016, 11:47:03 PM
Considering those scores, it's really not hard for me to pick a winner for this round, and this roulette as a whole...

home!!!

I couldn't even be bothered to do the math and sum up all the scores, what's the point, it unfortunately wasn't really that close, ehh.
Honestly this roulette was particularly exhausting for me and maybe a bit underwhelming as a whole but there are definitely still a number of bands I'll be looking into further that I wouldn't have checked out otherwise. This format probably did nobody any favors though, definitely wouldn't run it again.
Title: Evermind suffers, but why
Post by: Train of Naught on September 24, 2016, 01:18:27 AM
I feel like I kinda underrated Golden Hair in my roulette even though I admitted many times that I loved it. Unlike you, I was more about that dreamy intro, with the climax complementing it rather than taking over the attention.

I don't remember liking that Nothing More album a lot but based on those comments on God Went North I should check it out again.

Also I know Evermind kinda went above and beyond with the comfort-zone breaking thing but it's still pretty disappointing to see such scores for Faces of Stone and the Mark Knopfler song :(
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL RESULTS)
Post by: Evermind on September 24, 2016, 03:42:51 AM
Primal Fear ended up being the best song on my EP? Okay.  :rollin
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (FINAL RESULTS)
Post by: home on September 24, 2016, 06:04:50 AM
Wowa, thanks! Two songs scoring a 8.75 is way better than I expected  ;D I should have sent the single version of This is the Time without that intro part (I think I sent Train the version without it) ah well, I thought that intro part was a pretty cool addition. I didn't check with songs you got in your previous roulette EP's, I considered sending South of the Border too  :lol Glad I didn't. I didn't recon that that Primavera would score higher than a 7 btw, I still had some time left on my EP and thought it'd be a nice opener (and I really love the song myself) Thanks for hosting this Roulette! I enjoyed playing in it :azn:


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It sort of just feels like a collection of songs you liked more than a really cohesive EP during the middle stretch
Hence the title ;p
Title: Re: Parama's Spontaneous Roulette v1.5 (Back From the Dead)
Post by: Parama on October 21, 2016, 11:42:33 PM
some quick writeups on sacul's ep or something i dunno

Igorrr - Tout Petit Moineau (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKp30C3MwVk)

Honestly I don't really care for breakcore. The only reason it works for me in that Destrage song is because there's this build to it that it capitalizes on and there's a driving melody throughout the whole thing. Here it just sounds like someone inserted spammy drums on top of an unrelated song. The track doesn't reach any sort of intensity until over halfway through the song, at which point it does get kind of cool, yeah, but it doesn't last long and the stuff I dislike about this definitely overtakes the stuff I like. It's not awful on the whole or anything, I like the base of the song, but I just don't get the breakcore stuff at all.

Swans - Lunacy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7fBUDkb90)

I feel like these guys work better in small doses than they do long periods of time, so I have no bloody clue why they make all their albums so damn long. Like, this song has a nice build to it and eccentric enough instrumentation to at least be interesting throughout. I like it. I wouldn't say I love it, but it's solid. Not really a fan of the deep male vocals here, though, but you already knew that. I've complained about that like three or four other times in this roulette, I think. I don't know what else to say about this track. It's fine but it's not going to make me run back and see if I missed something after like 3-4 hours of trying to get into these guys in the past.

Bohren & der Club of Gore - Painless Steel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA4jpq8Q128)

What can I say about this. It's a nice little ambient piece with some nice saxophone going on throughout. I'll probably check out the album??? I like it. It's pleasant. Saxophone is good. It's hard to write any decent kind of writeup for this.

KASHIWA Daisuke - meteor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhqRaPud8JE)

I like this more than the long program music 1 track I heard, but probably because this is a lot more concise and, well, more to my taste. It's a nice upbeat piece and the strings really add a lot. Sounds like something out of a video game kind of. It's pretty pleasant overall. Also I forgot to write something while the song was playing because I got distracted and I bet it shows in this writeup but I mean this is a lazy sort of writeup to begin with.

Choir of Young Believers - Hollow Talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy7yuj-UrNI)

I don't really have anything to say about this song one way or another. I'm sitting here trying to think of any words at all but this is just the most "there" song I've heard recently. No real negative qualities and some mildly positive ones, but... nothing that really catches my interest or makes me want to return to it. I've listened to this EP three times now and I couldn't remember a second of this one before this relisten. I guess this is just not for me in the most literal sense of the word.

Gazpacho - Chequered Light Buildings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4bHnj674BY)

This song starts off pretty unassuming and kind of in a similar vein as the previous track on your EP but it builds up a lot better and reaches a pretty satisfying climax by the end. I feel like this is one of the tracks I definitely haven't listened to enough to really be writing anything significant about, but here we are.

Janelle Monae - Cold War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1xaya28by4)

If you were officially in the finals I'd have rejected this, since I've heard it before and found it pretty solid when I did, though that was like, 5 years ago? But uhh yeah I only kind of liked it before but it's definitely a "wow this is my jam" kind of song these days. Monae's a great singer and the instrumentation is a nice balance of a semi-retro feel with a more modern pop atmosphere. And I dig how organic everything sounds. I don't really know what else to say, it's just a tight, enjoyable little song.

Indukti - ...And Who's the God Now!? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_K6UJgco0)

This is the other song here I don't feel like I have a very good grasp on after only three listens, but to be fair this song is just a lot more complex than the rest of the songs here. I can definitively say I like it though, it's an interesting kind of metal song on the whole. I get a ton of pain of salvation vibes from this honestly, between some of the vocals and the instrumentation. It definitely gets heavier than they ever really get though. It's an adventurous song while still sticking to a pretty consistent main rhythm throughout, not relying on "prog wackiness" to be interesting. The kind of track I'll probably revisit or check out the album for. Honestly probably the best straight prog metal song of the entire roulette too, or as far as I can remember it is.

Overall:
The EP as a whole sort of feels a bit slapdash, the Igorrr song has nothing to do with the rest of the EP and the last two tracks are kind of off in their own little world too. But the stuff in the middle all feels pretty cohesive and well-paced, the slow build of Swans, the brief break of Painless Steel, the brighter jolt of energy from meteor, and then the two kind of similar but different enough songs that follow. And it definitely ends with a bang, the last two tracks easily my favorite on the whole thing. Wouldn't grade it especially well for flow since the transitions into the last two tracks are a bit weird as is the really abrupt ending of the closer here, but. Yeah. 'Tis a solid EP on the whole.


I'm also going to try and throw together a "best of" album for this roulette this weekend but it will probably be a bit slapdash and not especially well thought-out, most likely just throwing a lot of the songs in the 8 to 8.75 range together until I hit 60-70 minutes or so  :P

Then I can let this thread rest in peace, not having a writeup for this EP was bugging the hell out of me tbh.
Title: Pls
Post by: Sacul on October 22, 2016, 12:31:46 AM
Yeah the Igorrr track was mostly out of curiosity, to see how you'd react :P

Yeah check that Bohren album, the sax is porn on it.

For Swans, go with Soundtracks for the Blind, only got a handful of long songs, many short tracks, quite experimental and ambient, it's great. You'll also hear where much of modern post-rock comes from and how it influenced GYBE!

Gazpacho's Night is definitely more cohesive and intense than Demon, you'll dig it.

The ArchAndroid goes through many styles it never gets boring. Very pleasing album.


Glad you ended up liking some of the stuff on my EP. Looking forward to that Best of Roulette thing  :tup