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Title: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: KevShmev on May 31, 2016, 07:36:56 PM
Because of his despicable wife and his general craziness, it is easy to forget that he had some great solo stuff back in the day, but he really did.  Diary of a Madman, No More Tears and Blizzard of Ozz are all legit great records, and I like a lot of stuff on Ozzmosis and Bark at the Moon as well.

I cranked up I Don't Want to Change the World just a bit ago on a short drive home and it was  :metal :metal all the way.

Appreciate.  :coolio
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on May 31, 2016, 07:54:31 PM
So two things:

I've mentioned the first before, but when I was in the 7th grade (1980-81), my father brought home the cassette of Blizzard Of Ozz. Not because he was into it, far from it. But my father was a high school teacher and one of his students brought it in for him to listen to.
My last name is Crowley, so my father was um..Mr. Crowley. My father let me listen. Let's just say that I loved it and he did not! :lol

Second, the only time I saw Ozzy was on January 20, 1996, which just happened to me the day that I introduced myself to the future Lovely Mrs. TAC.

I did have tix to see Ozzy (w/ Metallica) in Providence in April of '86, but the show was postponed and I ended up not going to the make up date.

And yes, Kev, Ozzmosis  is awesome!!


Oh, and I've been serenaded to Mr. Crowley my entire life! :lol

Nowadays, it's trickled to like once every month or so, but it had literally been a lifelong happening. :lol
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: KevShmev on May 31, 2016, 09:07:25 PM
I always thought Tomorrow and Thunder Underground were two underrated rockers from Ozzmosis.  I think that is easily his 4th best solo album (behind the first two and No More Tears).
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: El Barto on May 31, 2016, 10:03:53 PM
I've mentioned the first before, but when I was in the 7th grade (1980-81), my father brought home the cassette of Blizzard Of Ozz. Not because he was into it, far from it. But my father was a high school teacher and one of his students brought it in for him to listen to.
My last name is Crowley, so my father was um..Mr. Crowley. My father let me listen. Let's just say that I loved it and he did not! :lol
I guess I've missed it when you mentioned it in the past. Far out. How'd your old man take to being compared to Alister Crowley? In some ways it'd be really kick ass and in others kind of offensive.  :lol

As I've mentioned in the past, Blizzard was one of the formative albums for me, along with Back in Black and Women and Children First. Those albums are one of the main components of me being who I am today.

As for Ozzy's solo stuff, Diary of a Madman is a God damned masterpiece. I've always thought that it was the opposite of Blizzard, and to my ears the better of the two. Blizzard was all about Randy Rhodes. Good tunes and awesome melodies. Diary was Lee Kerslake and Bod Daisley set loose to wreck havoc on the world and damned if they didn't bring the goods. SATO and Diary make up one of the finest album closers you'll ever hear, with all of them truly at the top of their game.

In the end, Ozzy is much like Dio in that the music is only as interesting as the people who write it, and none of his bands had the chemistry to crank out music like that. Bark at the Moon had some good tunes on it, but it just wasn't the same. I paid a little attention to him somewhat, but was never a big fan going forward. I haven't gotten into the albums and aside from Ozmosis I haven't seen him outside of Sabbath in pert near 30 years.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 31, 2016, 10:49:46 PM
I always thought Tomorrow and Thunder Underground were two underrated rockers from Ozzmosis.  I think that is easily his 4th best solo album (behind the first two and No More Tears).

I've always disliked Thunder Underground along with Denial, but the rest is gold. I agree on it being top 4, although those 4 are all good I'd struggle to put them in order. The two bonus tracks from Ozzmosis are really good too.

Even though I knew and loved Sabbath first, I actually prefer Ozzy's solo era, and would rank it as one of my top bands. :tup
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 01, 2016, 12:07:53 AM
Also a big fan of his solo material and Ozzmosis as well.  I can't say that anything since Ozzmosis has really done much for me. 

Perry Mason  :metal

I know Ozzy has bad memories about the Ultimate Sin album and recordings, so that's why its been a forgotten album when it comes to remasters.  But I love that album and would like to see it get a proper re-release like the others did it the last few years.

Would be a toss up between Ultimate Sin and Diary as my favorite from Ozzy.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Zydar on June 01, 2016, 12:15:45 AM
My first of his solo albums was The Ultimate Sin, so I have a soft spot for it. But for me it's Blizzard Of Ozz and Diary Of A Madman that's his best ones, for sure. Bark At The Moon is a classic too (Waiting For Darkness!).

My favourite of all his solo songs is Steal Away The Night.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2016, 02:29:05 AM
Van Halen and Ozzy solo would be neck and neck for my most played bands of all time.   Everything from Blizzard to Ozzmosis is gold. I not only played them for simple listening but spent many an hour transcribing/playing songs too.    Jake and Randy (and Zakk to a lesser extent) are guitar legends for me.

Like Zydar The Ultimate Sin was my first..........and my first real metal record actually. The trigger was seeing the video for Lightning Strikes - Jake was so cool (even if Ozzy looked like a souped up drag queen) and that started me on a journey beyond just KISS and Van Halen.  And then I worked my way back to Randy era in quick time.  Say what you like about Ozzy but he sure knew how to find a guitarist - and I think his singing (live and studio) is under rated.


My favourite of all his solo songs is Steal Away The Night.

Great song but like most of the Blizzard material I think it's at another level on Randy Rhoads Tribute - those songs have a whole new energy in a live setting.


Tribute and Ultimate Sin tied for 3rd in my DTF Top50 -only behind Van Halen s/t and Images and Words-   but any of those first 6 or 7 albums could've made it .    To this day I have never really bothered to sit down and listen to all the Ozzy era Sabbs albums.  Been meaning to for years/decades ......... :-\
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 01, 2016, 06:40:05 AM

As for Ozzy's solo stuff, Diary of a Madman is a God damned masterpiece. I've always thought that it was the opposite of Blizzard, and to my ears the better of the two. Blizzard was all about Randy Rhodes. Good tunes and awesome melodies. Diary was Lee Kerslake and Bod Daisley set loose to wreck havoc on the world and damned if they didn't bring the goods. SATO and Diary make up one of the finest album closers you'll ever hear, with all of them truly at the top of their game.

I thought it was Robert Trujillo and Mike Bordin who brought the goods on Blizzard and Diary of a Madman!   :biggrin:   That's what Sharon says, anyway.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bosk1 on June 01, 2016, 08:36:26 AM
Blizzard was one of my first real hard rock albums (my second, after Van Halen I), and it really helped shape my musical interests.  Fantastically good album.  I am with Kev in holding that, Diary, and No More Tears as Ozzy's best, and among the best hard rock records ever written.  Because of when I got into hard rock, I missed the Ozzy Sabbath years, but I got to revisit them with Speak of the Devil, which I played endlessly as I rode my neighborhood streets on my paper route.  I am surprised that cassette even survived as much as I played it on many a knockoff Walkman over the years.  I would put Bark at the Moon as my #4, and solidly in the 4 spot at that.  I loved that album.  Sadly, the drama that is the Osbourne family completely soured me on the music, and I completely lost interest.  Ozzy just seems like such a joke.  Despite some great tunes, I just can't be bothered to listen. 
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
Speak of the Devil was the extent of my Ozzy Sabbath knowledge as a kid.   I still remember the look on my dad's face when I was buying The Ultimate Sin (probably adventurous enough for a 12 year old) and he saw what was behind it in the cassette rack

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/OzzyOsbourneSpeakOfTheDevil.jpg/220px-OzzyOsbourneSpeakOfTheDevil.jpg)

Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 01, 2016, 08:58:38 AM
TBH, never really cared for Ozzy all that much, solo or with Black Sabbath.

But I always thought that No More Tears was one hell of an album.  *shrugs*
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on June 01, 2016, 09:13:35 AM
I rank NMT 4th after Bark At The Moon which I love. But I just don't care for The Ultimate Sin.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Stadler on June 01, 2016, 09:45:39 AM
Big Ozzy fan.   

Blizzard was the first, but Diary took it to a WHOLE new level.  "Tonight, Tonight" is my favorite Ozzy song, and the fade on that song - just when Randy kicks into high gear - is a crime against humanity, if you ask me.   To hear what got faded (and it was mooted for a Diary deluxe version, but taken off at the last minute) is in my top five "Holy Grail" things.

Diary of a Madman (1981)
No More Tears (1991)
Blizzard of Ozz (1980)
Bark at the Moon (1983)
No Rest for the Wicked (1988)
The Ultimate Sin (1986)
Ozzmosis (1995)
Down to Earth (2001)
Under Cover (2005)
Black Rain (2007)
Scream (2010)


Love the album "Bark at the Moon", though I hate that song with a passion.  Love Ultimate Sin, but hate Shot in the Dark.  Big fan of No Rest, though I hate Crazy Babies.  Haha.   

His last two do little if anything for me.   

Favorite songs:

- Tonight
- Fire In The Sky
- Flying High Again
- Steal away
- You Can't Kill Rock and Roll
- One Up The B-Side
- Fool Like You
- Time After Time
- Road To Nowhere
- Revelation (Mother Earth)
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on June 01, 2016, 09:56:53 AM
If I did a Top 10 Song list it would be this:

1. Diary Of A Madman
2. Waiting For Darkness
3. Mr. Crowley
4. Over The Mountain
5. See You On The Other Side
6. Road To Nowhere
7. Revelation (Mother Earth)
8. Mama I'm Coming Home
9. Shot In The Dark
10. My Little Man
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on June 01, 2016, 10:12:07 AM
I actually like Ozzy's solo stuff more than anything that Black Sabbath has ever done.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 01, 2016, 10:31:16 AM
My Top 10 (in no particular order):
 - Steal Away (The Night)
 - Believer
 - Flying High Again
 - Over The Mountain
 - Centre Of Eternity
 - Waiting For Darkness
 - Miracle Man
 - Hero
 - Mama, I'm Coming Home
 - Road To Nowhere
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on June 01, 2016, 10:46:40 AM
Rudy Sarzo's Off The Rails is a great read about those early tours.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Imaginos on June 02, 2016, 09:24:45 AM
Poor No Rest For The Wicked never gets any love. I'd say it's probably my favorite ozzy album. Crazy Babies is kind of meh and Devil's Daughter is just ok, but the rest of the album is perfect. Fire in the Sky, Bloodbath in Paradise, Demon Alcohol, and Hero are all top Ozzy tracks for me.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2016, 09:32:24 AM
Poor No Rest For The Wicked never gets any love. I'd say it's probably my favorite ozzy album. Crazy Babies is kind of meh and Devil's Daughter is just ok, but the rest of the album is perfect. Fire in the Sky, Bloodbath in Paradise, Demon Alcohol, and Hero are all top Ozzy tracks for me.

I was devastated when I got this record home on release day and Jake was gone...."who's the pinch harmonic guy?" - that harmed my sentiment towards the album for a long time.  Over time though I grew to love it , especially the "hidden track" Hero and Breaking All The Rules.    Like a few here I never liked Crazy Babies much but aside from that it's a strong album .
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 02, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Over time though I grew to love it , especially the "hidden track" Hero and Breaking All The Rules.    Like a few here I never liked Crazy Babies much but aside from that it's a strong album .
"Hero" is probably Top 5 for me.  Perhaps people were not happy about having 3 different guitarists in a 4 album span.  I remember getting this on cassette when it came out and loving it... except for "Crazy Babies".  Other than that, it's a pretty darn good album. 

"Tattooed Dancer... Dance for me, bitch!"  Classic!
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: WebRaider on June 02, 2016, 03:06:18 PM
Love pretty much all of Ozzy's work musically; Sabbath and Solo.

Solo I'd rank them something like this...

Diary of a Madman=Tribute
Blizzard of Ozz
Bark at the Moon=The Ultimate Sin
No More Tears
No Rest for the Wicked
Ozzmosis=Down to Earth=Scream
Black Rain

I agree with bl5150 about Tribute... I rank it up with Diary at the top all those songs seem even more electric on that album. I also agree with Stadler about the fade out on "Tonight, Tonight"  :metal
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 02, 2016, 03:28:06 PM
My Top 10 (in no particular order):
 - Steal Away (The Night)
 - Believer
 - Flying High Again
 - Over The Mountain
 - Centre Of Eternity
 - Waiting For Darkness
 - Miracle Man
 - Hero
 - Mama, I'm Coming Home
 - Road To Nowhere


Holy crap.  I played Steal Away in a cover band in my 20's. Such a fun tune to play live.


My favorite album cut from Ozzy is Fire In The Sky.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2016, 03:31:37 PM
Ultimate Sin is my fav Ozzy album, I love it.  I never could quite understand why Ozzy always wrote it off, it's fabulous. Everything he's done was actually really solid up until the last few, which have been shift.  I think Down to Earth was the last decent one IMO.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 02, 2016, 03:38:17 PM
The story I have about The Ultimate Sin tour in Worcester,  Ma.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Imaginos on June 02, 2016, 06:52:59 PM
Yeah, definitely agree on the Tonight Tonight solo fade. I remember listening to the solo and continuously turning it up every couple seconds until the volume was maxed, and then quickly turning it down at the end so I didn't go deaf when SATO kicked in. You Can't Kill Rock n Roll has that ridiculously long fade out too.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 02, 2016, 08:17:32 PM
I can't remember if it has been mentioned yet in thread, and if it has, I am sure the person who did will quote it :lol, but two words:

ZOMBIE STOMP

 :metal :metal
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2016, 08:22:02 PM
I can't remember if it has been mentioned yet in thread, and if it has, I am sure the person who did will quote it :lol, but two words:

ZOMBIE STOMP

 :metal :metal

:2metal:

The only track on No More Tears that I ever skipped with any regularity was Hellraiser...................got a bit sick of that. 
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: NoseofNicko on June 02, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Love his first 4 albums. The Ultimate Sin is my favorite. Sooooo underrated.

Diary of a Madman is one of the greatest metal songs of all time.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: ozzy554 on June 02, 2016, 10:14:58 PM
I at least like all of his solo albums. Diary of a madman is my personal favorite but Ozzmosis is very underrated with Tomorrow being one of my favorite Ozzy tracks.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2016, 10:19:10 PM
Usually I am a lone voice in support of The Ultimate Sin (and Kade if he's about) -  good to see some others digging it.    Jake was the king  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 02, 2016, 10:29:23 PM
Usually I am a lone voice in support of The Ultimate Sin (and Kade if he's about) -  good to see some others digging it.    Jake was the king  :hefdaddy

I recall a lot of people here liking it. I used to think it was ok, but it's grown on me more over time, and now it's one of my most listened to Ozzy albums. The only songs I don't love are Thank God For The Bomb (although it has a rockin' riff) and Fool Like You. There's nothing like cranking up the volume and putting on TUS and just hearing that big DUN DUN DUN DUNDUNDUN on the drums, then that heavy riff. :metal


Ultimate Sin is my fav Ozzy album, I love it.  I never could quite understand why Ozzy always wrote it off, it's fabulous. Everything he's done was actually really solid up until the last few, which have been shift.  I think Down to Earth was the last decent one IMO.

Down to Earth is a solid album, and very underrated. His albums since then have been his weakest though, along with No Rest For the Wicked. Black Rain still has a couple of tracks I dig, but Scream has no redeeming qualities for me. It's just slop.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2016, 11:55:42 PM
Yeah I should give Down to Earth another spin when I have time, I do remember liking it a lot when it came out.

I loved Ozzmosis too.

I don't think there is anything weak on TUS at all, it fantastic.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Zydar on June 03, 2016, 12:38:35 AM
I don't remember much about the Scream album, but I recall really digging Life Won't Wait.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 03, 2016, 05:29:01 AM
Usually I am a lone voice in support of The Ultimate Sin (and Kade if he's about) -  good to see some others digging it.    Jake was the king  :hefdaddy

I had to look up his name again to remind myself who that guitarist was on those two albums. :lol

He did a fine job, but, for me, his playing just didn't touch that of Rhoads or Wylde.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2016, 06:55:00 AM
Usually I am a lone voice in support of The Ultimate Sin (and Kade if he's about) -  good to see some others digging it.    Jake was the king  :hefdaddy

I had to look up his name again to remind myself who that guitarist was on those two albums. :lol

He did a fine job, but, for me, his playing just didn't touch that of Rhoads or Wylde.

Jake's solos on TUS are better than anything Wylde has done IMO.  Such tasteful playing.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 03, 2016, 09:12:41 AM
Yeah - I would have no trouble putting Rhoads or Lee at the top of the list on any day (Randy was king too :lol ) - although I love the Zakk albums and his guitar playing, relatively speaking he is a bit one dimensional IMO.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 03, 2016, 11:11:21 AM
Usually I am a lone voice in support of The Ultimate Sin (and Kade if he's about) -  good to see some others digging it.    Jake was the king  :hefdaddy

I had to look up his name again to remind myself who that guitarist was on those two albums. :lol

He did a fine job, but, for me, his playing just didn't touch that of Rhoads or Wylde.

I'm a fan of that album too, after Diary and Blizzard. I'm only really a fan of the first four albums. Things got progressively shitter after Jake left. And I'm not the biggest fan of Bark either.
There were some good songs on the first Zakk album and the odd good one after that but not enough for me to bother at all.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 03, 2016, 12:37:31 PM
It's a shame he never recorded anything with Joe Holmes.  From all accounts, he was a really good player, too.  I still need to check out his new band Farmikos.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: ozzy554 on June 03, 2016, 12:53:46 PM
It's a shame he never recorded anything with Joe Holmes.  From all accounts, he was a really good player, too.  I still need to check out his new band Farmikos.

I believe the song Walk On Water featured joe on guitar.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on June 03, 2016, 01:27:43 PM
It's a shame he never recorded anything with Joe Holmes.  From all accounts, he was a really good player, too.  I still need to check out his new band Farmikos.

I believe the song Walk On Water featured joe on guitar.
You're right about that song.  Actually, I should've been more specific and said "never recorded an album with" Joe Holmes.  He played for him for 7 or 8 years, right?  One song?!?
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 03, 2016, 05:07:33 PM
I'll have to give TUS another whirl; I just don't have much of a memory of any of the solos from it.

It could just be that I love the songs on No More Tears and Ozzmosis a lot more than I do the songs from Bark at the Moon and The Ultimate Sin, but I am just much fonder of Wylde's playing.  That solo in No More Tears is just money.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bosk1 on June 03, 2016, 05:18:54 PM
That solo in No More Tears is just money.

Definitely.  It is in my top 10 all time.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 03, 2016, 05:22:01 PM
It's in my head right now. Just an ass kicking solo.  What a great build up as well.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2016, 04:15:21 AM
I'll have to give TUS another whirl; I just don't have much of a memory of any of the solos from it.

It could just be that I love the songs on No More Tears and Ozzmosis a lot more than I do the songs from Bark at the Moon and The Ultimate Sin, but I am just much fonder of Wylde's playing.  That solo in No More Tears is just money.

I'd take make over Zakk any day. His live solo where he played a clean chords thing using his thumb as a barre was awesome. 2.50 on this video. And he was cool. I've always wanted a blue and black guitar because of jake.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G6D69ILnVrk
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 04, 2016, 07:14:31 AM
That solo in No More Tears is just money.

Definitely.  It is in my top 10 all time.

Nice. :tup :tup

It's in my head right now. Just an ass kicking solo.  What a great build up as well.

Absolutely.  And the way the end of it echoes while the bass line that began the song kicks back in is just freaking awesome. :metal
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: ? on June 10, 2016, 07:50:38 AM
So far I've listened to DOAM, TUS, NRFTW and No More Tears. The Ultimate Sin is probably my favorite (dat title-track :metal), followed by Diary. I like the songwriting on the two Zakk albums as well, but his obsession with pinch harmonics bugs me. :lol Ozzy isn't an amazing singer by any means, but he's worked with very talented people over the years and he's been given some great material to perform.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: kirksnosehair on June 10, 2016, 08:56:01 AM
I really loved Ozzy when I was a kid.  Black Sabbath was one of my favorite bands when I was a teenager and it was a bummer when Ozzy left to go solo but then we got a whole bunch of killer albums out of it and while I don't think Black Sabbath ever completely recovered from Ozzy's departure, but we still got some pretty good albums out of them too, and their stuff with Dio is classic.


I kind of fell away from Ozzy after those first few albums of his.  My favorite album among his "newer" stuff (you know, the stuff that's only 20 years old instead of 40  :P  ) is probably "No More Tears"

One thing is absolutely certain: Ozzy Osbourne will be a name that will live on in music history for a very long time.  He's definitely made his mark.  :hat
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bosk1 on June 10, 2016, 09:35:06 AM
That solo in No More Tears is just money.

Definitely.  It is in my top 10 all time.

Nice. :tup :tup

Just to give a flavor for some of the rest of my list (in no particular order):
-Neal Morse, Upon the Door (Paul Gilbert)
-Testament, Return to Serenity (Alex Skolnick)
-Ozzy, No More Tears
-Y&T, Forever (Dave Meniketti)
-Whitesnake, Still of the Night (John Sykes)
-Bon Jovi, Wanted Dead or Alive (Ritchie Sambora)
-Queensryche, Anybody Listening?  (Chris DeGarmo)
-Megadeth, Angry Again (Marty Friedman)
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on June 10, 2016, 02:54:02 PM
I don't even think I could quantify my 10 favorite guitar solos.
Actually, I do know that Detroit Rock City would be one of them.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bosk1 on June 10, 2016, 03:41:14 PM
Yeah, it's hard to do a definitive top 10.  But when I think if my top guitar solos of all time, those are most definitely among the ones that I would consistently say deserve to be there.  John Petrucci obviously deserves to be in the conversation as well, but he has so many that it almost isn't even fair (although, despite that, he wouldn't crack my top 3).  And Steve Vai, For the Love of God (the entire song).
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Dublagent66 on June 10, 2016, 04:01:02 PM
Usually I am a lone voice in support of The Ultimate Sin (and Kade if he's about) -  good to see some others digging it.    Jake was the king  :hefdaddy

I had to look up his name again to remind myself who that guitarist was on those two albums. :lol

He did a fine job, but, for me, his playing just didn't touch that of Rhoads or Wylde.

Jake's solos on TUS are better than anything Wylde has done IMO.  Such tasteful playing.

First of all, I can definitely say that I appreciate most of Ozzy's solo career.  But, for the life of me I can't figure out how an Ozzy fan could possibly forget about Jake E. Lee.  Yeah, he only played on 2 albums but BATM and TUS are phenomenal albums and Jake was killer on both.  I really hated to see him go.  Then came Zakk and I really liked his playing a lot too.  Honestly, as much as I like Jake and Zakk, they both really couldn't touch what Rhoads was.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on June 10, 2016, 04:21:01 PM
Jake was awesome, and I don't even care for TUS. A shame he did jack shit after he left Ozzy. I always thought that was so interesting. Two albums from Randy and two from Jake, and they were both gone. Randy literally and Jake figuratively.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: Imaginos on June 10, 2016, 04:53:21 PM
Jake was awesome, and I don't even care for TUS. A shame he did jack shit after he left Ozzy. I always thought that was so interesting. Two albums from Randy and two from Jake, and they were both gone. Randy literally and Jake figuratively.

Sure, Badlands weren't a great band, but they weren't that bad either. There's some decent songs on the first album, and it's a nice listen every now and then. But yeah, Jake could've done so much more after he left Ozzy.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 10, 2016, 05:08:06 PM
Usually I am a lone voice in support of The Ultimate Sin (and Kade if he's about) -  good to see some others digging it.    Jake was the king  :hefdaddy

I had to look up his name again to remind myself who that guitarist was on those two albums. :lol

He did a fine job, but, for me, his playing just didn't touch that of Rhoads or Wylde.

Jake's solos on TUS are better than anything Wylde has done IMO.  Such tasteful playing.

First of all, I can definitely say that I appreciate most of Ozzy's solo career.  But, for the life of me I can't figure out how an Ozzy fan could possibly forget about Jake E. Lee.  Yeah, he only played on 2 albums but BATM and TUS are phenomenal albums and Jake was killer on both.  I really hated to see him go.  Then came Zakk and I really liked his playing a lot too.  Honestly, as much as I like Jake and Zakk, they both really couldn't touch what Rhoads was.

Honestly, I don't think I ever forgot about Jake E. Lee, so much as that I was never that aware of him.  The two albums he plays on are both good, but neither were ever go-to CDs for me, outside of a handful of songs from the two combined, so it was more a matter of me listening to the albums without him by far the most. I would guess 95% of my solo Ozzy listening over the last 25 years has been from the first two albums, No More Tears and Ozzmosis. Listening to some of the songs from them over the last week plus, however, I will definitely give him props for being a better player than I had ever realized.  :tup :tup
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Post by: TAC on June 10, 2016, 05:14:43 PM
Jake was awesome, and I don't even care for TUS. A shame he did jack shit after he left Ozzy. I always thought that was so interesting. Two albums from Randy and two from Jake, and they were both gone. Randy literally and Jake figuratively.

Sure, Badlands weren't a great band, but they weren't that bad either. There's some decent songs on the first album, and it's a nice listen every now and then. But yeah, Jake could've done so much more after he left Ozzy.

Well that's the thing. Badlands WAS a great band, they just didn't do anything with it. The first Badlands album easily makes the list of The TAC Top 10 Most Disappointing Albums Of The 80's.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 11, 2016, 12:01:51 AM
Jake was awesome, and I don't even care for TUS. A shame he did jack shit after he left Ozzy. I always thought that was so interesting. Two albums from Randy and two from Jake, and they were both gone. Randy literally and Jake figuratively.

Sure, Badlands weren't a great band, but they weren't that bad either. There's some decent songs on the first album, and it's a nice listen every now and then. But yeah, Jake could've done so much more after he left Ozzy.

Well that's the thing. Badlands WAS a great band, they just didn't do anything with it. The first Badlands album easily makes the list of The TAC Top 10 Most Disappointing Albums Of The 80's.
I recall that quite  vividly - I was a huge Jake fan and although I came to appreciate Badlands (more so Voodoo Highway.........Hard Driver was my main thing on the debut but not much else) I was massively disappointed at the time.   The style wasn't my thing back then and Jake's playing , while good , wasn't in the same league as the Ozzy material.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: LudwigVan on June 11, 2016, 12:35:59 AM
The interesting thing about Ozzy's solo career is that it had a lot of the trappings of 80s hair\glam metal. The various incarnations of his band certainly looked the part with the stripes, spandex and teased out big hair, and captured some of its sound, but at its core the music rocked harder and has more staying power than any of Ratt, Poison, Warrant or most any other hair metal band you'd care to mention.

I absolutely love Jake E Lee's sound on those 2 albums and was bummed when he left the band.  I rate his tenure with Ozzy over any of the Zakk Wylde stuff.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 11, 2016, 01:00:32 AM
Honestly, I don't think I ever forgot about Jake E. Lee, so much as that I was never that aware of him.  The two albums he plays on are both good, but neither were ever go-to CDs for me, outside of a handful of songs from the two combined, so it was more a matter of me listening to the albums without him by far the most. I would guess 95% of my solo Ozzy listening over the last 25 years has been from the first two albums, No More Tears and Ozzmosis. Listening to some of the songs from them over the last week plus, however, I will definitely give him props for being a better player than I had ever realized.  :tup :tup

If nothing else, dat BATM solo is absolute killer. :hat
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 11, 2016, 06:07:29 AM
Bark At The Moon was such a disappointment to me.  The Ultimate Sin was just killer.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2016, 07:56:26 AM
Bark At The Moon was such a disappointment to me.  The Ultimate Sin was just killer.

Dude, you have that so backwards. I listened to The Ultimate Sin last night and I don't know how anyone could confuse that with an awesome album. Jakes playing is great but the sings just feel so superficial.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 11, 2016, 08:15:41 AM
Compared to the first 2 of course but it was light years better than BATM.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 11, 2016, 08:20:34 AM
BATM and TUS are very good albums, neither one quite as good as the Rhoads stuff though imo. I used to prefer BATM, but over time I've found myself listening to TUS much more often.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 11, 2016, 09:28:06 AM
Which to me is always a sign of a better album.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2016, 10:57:04 AM
I guess it's me then. I just think TUS is extremely mediocre.
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 11, 2016, 11:02:39 AM
It's middle of the pack for his albums but it's still very good.
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Post by: TAC on June 11, 2016, 11:10:36 AM
Personally I rank it 6th. But I won't beat this dead horse anymore.  :)
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Post by: Kotowboy on June 11, 2016, 11:42:03 AM
Following recent allegations - he'll be solo again very soon :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Ozzy Osbourne solo career appreciation thread
Post by: bosk1 on June 13, 2016, 08:25:29 AM
No, Tim is correct.  Bark At the Moon slays The Ultimate Sin. 

Too bad he swung and missed so badly on Badlands.  All three albums of theirs were stellar.