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Title: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on May 22, 2016, 06:47:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ77YEzem_I
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 22, 2016, 07:00:39 PM
Yes. DTF's biggest F&J fan here. It's the album I've been waiting for them to release for ages. Easily the best thing since When The Storm Comes Down. Jason Bittner is insane on this.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on May 22, 2016, 07:06:44 PM
These guys are awesome! Their last few albums have been excellent., the Cold was awesome!
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
Bravewords has a very favorable review
https://bravewords.com/reviews/flotsam-and-jetsam-flotsam-and-jetsam


This album is excellent.

YtseJam, I'm not a fan of The Cold, or the whole Neilson/Simpson era. They rocked pretty hard, but there was something missing.

I was thrilled to see Michael Gilbert and Kelly Smith return for Ugly Noise, reuiniting 4/5 of the original band, but I was fairly disappointed with it, although it's grown on me.

To me, the new s/t is easily the best think since 1997's High, which effective ended the 6 album run of the Classic Era.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on May 23, 2016, 05:42:58 PM
I think Simpson was awesome! He kept the musicianship at a higher level and more groove. I love these guys and AK's voice!

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8JRE4I_Eo  :tup
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 05:47:32 PM
Hey that's cool. Any love that F&J gets around here is good love.

Both No Place For Disgrace and When The Storm Comes Down made The TAC Top 50. The new album really reminds me of them, particularly No Place.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on May 23, 2016, 05:48:56 PM
 :metal Did you see them when they came around last year? Not sure where you're from
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
Unfortunately, my days of going to clubs to see heavy metal bands are pretty much behind me.

I'm a half hour south of Boston.

I saw F&J at least a half dozen times from '87-'95 in both Providence and Boston.

If you're interested, I'll try and find some pics. I know I have them from at least 3 shows.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on May 23, 2016, 06:02:13 PM
Definitely! I saw them at the El n Gee in New London and at Toads place. Troy Gregory Era and then Jason Ward
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 06:05:07 PM
Definitely! I saw them at the El n Gee in New London and at Toads place. Troy Gregory Era and then Jason Ward

Oh shit.. You're a fogey too!  And local! Troy Gregory was awesome. They were never the same after he left, IMO. The new album comes the closest to that era.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2016, 01:21:17 PM
I have Photobucket open, and apparently I have a couple of pics scanned in. I know I have ton more but here's a couple.

September 28, 1987
The Living Room
Providence RI

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/FJ1.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/FJ1.jpg.html)

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/FJ2.jpg) (https://s195.photobucket.com/user/TACPics/media/FJ2.jpg.html)


This was the Doomsday tour with Michael Spencer on bass. What was cool about this show was that they were opening for Celtic Frost, but for some reason Celtic Frost didn't play. So we got extra Flots!!

I have never seen anyone headbang like Michael Gilbert.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bosk1 on May 24, 2016, 01:34:51 PM
I might have to check the new album out if it is that good.  I won't bother re-posting what I have said many times in the past, but my interest in the band was very limited.  I saw them for the first time touring in support of the Drift album.  I went and bought that album and LOVED it.  Easily my favorite from them.  I bought a few others through the years and never really cared for them much.  Didn't dislike them, but they just didn't hold my interest.  But I thought their live album, Once in a Deathtime, was really good too. 
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2016, 01:36:57 PM
Tim, when you get a chance can you give a ranking of your top albums from F&J
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2016, 01:43:24 PM
I saw them for the last time in support of Drift, which at the time I thought was very weak. It's aged well though. It was the 5th of what I consider the first 6 albums as the Classic Era.

After 1997's High, the drummer, Kelly Smith, and guitarist Michael Gilbert (the guy in the Snoopy shirt) left and were replaced Craig Neilson and Mark Simpson. They released a number of albums, Unnatural Selection, My God, Dreams Of Death, and The Cold. Personally, none of these has really hit me like the Classic era. Smith and Gilbert returned for 2013's Ugly Noise, so even though it was a return of the Classic Lineup, the album was very slow to click.

But the new one kicks total ass. It is reminiscent of No Place For Disgrace, which is quite different from Drift. Songs are very fast and aggressive.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: dtvoices94 on May 24, 2016, 01:47:49 PM
I'm definitely going to check this out but I'm more excited for the new Death Angel.  Criminally underrated band.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2016, 01:49:12 PM
Tim, when you get a chance can you give a ranking of your top albums from F&J

No Place For Disgrace
When The Storm Comes Down
Cuatro
High
Doomsday For The Deceiver
Drift
Unnatural Selection
My God
Ugly Noise
The Cold

For some reason I never got Dreams Of Death, the third of the Simpson/Neilson era.
I'd say the new one would land about 5th. Doomsday and No Place are the thrashiest and the new one is quite like them.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
I'm definitely going to check this out but I'm more excited for the new Death Angel.  Criminally underrated band.

I played them on my radio show a lot in college, but it was really the vocals that held me back on them. They had a great version of Cold Gin if I'm not mistaken.

I would not behoove anyone loving Death Angel.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: dtvoices94 on May 24, 2016, 01:56:07 PM
I'm definitely going to check this out but I'm more excited for the new Death Angel.  Criminally underrated band.

I played them on my radio show a lot in college, but it was really the vocals that held me back on them. They had a great version of Cold Gin if I'm not mistaken.

I would not behoove anyone loving Death Angel.

Yep...killer version of Cold Gin.  Since the 2004 come back, each release has been better and better.  I thought Act III was their peak but I'm glad to have been proven wrong.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on May 25, 2016, 07:23:00 PM
I think No Place for Disgrace is an absolute masterpiece and a must have for anyone in their metal collection. Doomsday is a classic much like kill em all was. Drift is an excellent transition from Cuatro where they broke their stereotypical sound and Cuatro has a special 90's vibe. Here are some of my favorites for anyone who wants to hear excellent music with a singer who can sing check out some of these as they've evolved. BTW great pix!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZQ7OsnyXsM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znklksOwiDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxZN_bRNw8c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nWee81OBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO3JRJfOhkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2dXvk7pbek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcoHXjJRZes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C1DTEv6v48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk6x9cjCfT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ77YEzem_I
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bosk1 on October 18, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
You know, I can't say I go out of my way to listen to this album.  But here's the thing:  I do listen to the new Fates Warning quite a bit, and F&J is up next after them on my phone and my work computer, so it often comes on if I don't actively skip to something else when the FW album finishes.  And I really enjoy it (or at least the first few songs in the cases where I end up changing it halfway through) every time.  The first 4 songs get my head bobbing and feet tappin'.  :biggrin:  And I notice that, despite not listening to it all that much, it's so straightforward and catchy that I know the songs on the first half very well and am constantly either mouthing the lyrics and/or air guitaring the solos (when nobody is walking by my office, of course).

EDIT:  And added this thread to the A-Z index of band threads thread.  Not sure why there wasn't an F&J thread in there.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on October 18, 2016, 03:53:10 PM
It's a great album, Top 3 for me this year. But It's a also great Flotsam album. They haven't had an album this good and consistent in a looooong time.
And Jason Bittner nails it on this album. He has a similar style to Kelly Smith, so it has a classic feel, but Bittner is much stronger.

Life Is A Mess :metal
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: nobloodyname on October 19, 2016, 10:33:23 AM
I'm definitely going to check this out but I'm more excited for the new Death Angel.  Criminally underrated band.

I played them on my radio show a lot in college, but it was really the vocals that held me back on them. They had a great version of Cold Gin if I'm not mistaken.

I would not behoove anyone loving Death Angel.

Yep...killer version of Cold Gin.  Since the 2004 come back, each release has been better and better.  I thought Act III was their peak but I'm glad to have been proven wrong.

Act III is one of my favourite ever albums. Pretty much perfect from start to finish. Rather eclectic but remembers its thrash heritage with a couple of blistering songs. And then you have Stagnant and Room with a View... brilliant.

Nice to hear someone else likes When the Storm Comes Down, by the way! I loved it on release and still love it today, despite the 'interesting' snare sound.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on October 19, 2016, 11:21:27 AM
WTSCD is one of the ultimate "air drumming" albums!
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on December 11, 2016, 08:18:16 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bosk1 on June 16, 2017, 04:03:14 PM
Just listening to the s/t.  As is often the case, I hadn't been thinking about this album in awhile, and it just came on after Fates Warning.  Diggin' it.  :metal  TAC, you still listening to this one?
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 18, 2017, 09:08:30 AM
Just listening to the s/t.  As is often the case, I hadn't been thinking about this album in awhile, and it just came on after Fates Warning.  Diggin' it.  :metal  TAC, you still listening to this one?

It's in the van! :metal


Haven't played it in a couple of months. I've gone through a UFO and now a Maiden binge, so that takes a lot of time.

But yes, it's awesome!!
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on June 21, 2017, 11:57:39 AM
Did you guys hear Jason Bitner joined Overkill?  :xbones
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 21, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
Did you guys hear Jason Bitner joined Overkill?  :xbones

Oh really?? Is he in both bands now? He was fantastic on the last F&J.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on June 21, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Yeah he was. Originally I think he was going to be in both but now it appears he has left F&J for Overkill. I happen to love both bands so I'm not totally disappointed.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 21, 2017, 12:14:19 PM
I think Overkill is a bit more financially stable, but I'm an F&J guy. Overkill is OK.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on June 21, 2017, 04:20:17 PM
I'm more of a fan of their classics. The Years of Decay is the best  :metal
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 21, 2017, 04:28:22 PM
I honestly didn't pay any attention to them back in the day. I'm not very familiar with their back catalog. I've got their last 3 or 4 albums, but not the latest. I sampled a few tracks and decided not to shell out any cash for it.

I saw them open for Slayer in 1990.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on June 22, 2017, 09:31:12 AM
Ohh man definitely worth checking out..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JveuHHSZfoc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uATR1QkL4Nk
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on July 06, 2017, 01:45:52 PM
Ken Mary to do summer tour with F&J.

https://bravewords.com/news/flotsam-and-jetsam-announce-summer-tour-dates-drummer-ken-mary-steps-in-to-replace-jason-bittner
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Samsara on July 06, 2017, 01:49:39 PM
Ken Mary to do summer tour with F&J.

https://bravewords.com/news/flotsam-and-jetsam-announce-summer-tour-dates-drummer-ken-mary-steps-in-to-replace-jason-bittner

I just saw that. Interesting, because he had injured his shoulder and was unable to play with Fifth Angel in April. I assume whatever treatment he got helped immensely for him to be taking on a thrash tour. Good for him!
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on July 06, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
That IS interesting.

I realize it's about 10 shows, but how can you be so injured to play FA, but only 3 months later expect to play F&J?
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on July 07, 2017, 04:02:01 AM
I saw that too but I don't know anything about him. Sounds like he's just filling in
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Progmetty on July 07, 2017, 04:08:39 AM
All I know about this band is that Jason Newsted was in it. What should I check out?
Also was Jason an influence to the band's sound or just a passing member?
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on July 07, 2017, 07:04:51 AM
All I know about this band is that Jason Newsted was in it. What should I check out?
Also was Jason an influence to the band's sound or just a passing member?

Jason was one of THE founding members. After they released their first album in '86, Doomsday For The Deceiver, he joined Metallica.

They have been releasing albums ever since.

Doomsday is old school 80's thrash. It sounds a bit dated.
Personally, the two albums they released next are two of my favorite albums of all time.

No Place For Disgrace (1988)
When The Storm Comes Down (1990)

The s/t they released a year or two ago is excellent.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Dittomist on June 25, 2018, 08:50:02 PM
I've been listening to Flotsam and Jetsam a lot over the past few months and concluded that few bands have been this inconsistent. Some albums sound like they were recorded in a garage with minimal effort and not a single standout track, and others are unbelievably awesome. In my opinion, Cuatro (1992) and The Cold (2010) are easily their finest achievements, and I'll continue listening to everything they put out in hopes that a new one can impress me as much.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 25, 2018, 08:54:50 PM
Cuatro has certainly aged well. I thought it was a huge step down from When The Storm Comes Down at the time.


I have trouble getting into The Cold.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Dittomist on June 25, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
When I was a kid, I fell in love with "Wading Through the Darkness" because of Headbangers Ball. I ended up buying Cuatro and Drift, but for some reason only listened to them a couple times. I'm glad I finally decided to give them another chance! The Cold surprised the hell out of me because their previous few albums had been so underwhelming. Right from the start--with eerie keys and Eric A.K forlornly singing "You tell me I'm the devil and then scratch my flesh with your horns"--it sounded like this band had finally woken up and had something to prove again. It's a really dark and ferocious album but it's also probably their most melodic because of "The Cold," "Secret Life," "Blackened Eyes Staring," and especially that amazing ballad "Better Off Dead."
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bosk1 on June 27, 2018, 09:12:47 AM
Interesting.  The Cold was never even on my radar.  I'm going to have to check it out.  But I agree about the "inconsistency" comment.  They are a very hit-and-miss band for me.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Mister Gold on June 27, 2018, 10:30:49 AM
The Cold is freaking amazing. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bosk1 on June 27, 2018, 10:55:58 AM
I have been sampling it on YouTube while at work.  Thus far (track 6):  THIS IS AMAZING! 
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Podaar on June 27, 2018, 01:15:57 PM
Enjoying my first ever run through the self titled album.

Monkey Wrench  :omg:  :metal :metal :metal  :omg:
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 27, 2018, 01:36:36 PM
Yeah Gregg, that last album they did was fantastic.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Podaar on June 27, 2018, 02:50:23 PM
I agree, Tim. Definitely purchase worthy.

So now I'm really curious about what I've been missing, thus, I'm listening to The Cold. I'm nearly through it and really enjoying the experience. There are a few songs that I'm not as keen on as I was with the self titled album, but I still love a few of the tunes.

Here's a couple of impressions I have about the band and their sound overall (so far). Number one: the aggression doesn't feel forced, which I find really uncommon in metal bands of a certain age. I'm not getting the "menopause metal" impression I usually get from such acts (I'm looking at you Adrenaline Mob). Maybe the down to earth, common man, lyrics really help, but I chalk it up to my second impression: the vocals are excellent! Their singer really sells these songs and the anger, regret, frustration, despair, hopelessness, of the lyrics with his effortless delivery.

Would listen again.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bosk1 on June 27, 2018, 02:52:09 PM
Here's a couple of impressions I have about the band and their sound overall (so far). Number one: the aggression doesn't feel forced, which I find really uncommon in metal bands of a certain age. I'm not getting the "menopause metal" impression I usually get from such acts (I'm looking at you Adrenaline Mob). Maybe the down to earth, common man, lyrics really help, but I chalk it up to my second impression: the vocals are excellent! Their singer really sells these songs and the anger, regret, frustration, despair, hopelessness, of the lyrics with his effortless delivery.

That is what first attracted me to the band in the Drift era.  Spot on observation.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 27, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
Here's a couple of impressions I have about the band and their sound overall (so far). Number one: the aggression doesn't feel forced, which I find really uncommon in metal bands of a certain age. I'm not getting the "menopause metal" impression I usually get from such acts (I'm looking at you Adrenaline Mob). Maybe the down to earth, common man, lyrics really help, but I chalk it up to my second impression: the vocals are excellent! Their singer really sells these songs and the anger, regret, frustration, despair, hopelessness, of the lyrics with his effortless delivery.


When The Cold came out, I just could not really get into it. But I just spun it while cleaning my pool, and damn, some good stuff I overlooked. This album has some great guitar solos, something that F&J is not really known for.


Gregg, you mention the lyrics and the singer. I was thinking about something Grappler said in the Crue thread, about how honest he found the Crue in the 80's. That was exactly what I was thinking about Eric Knutson. That guy's the real deal. There is no pretentiousness about him whatsoever.


I've been a F&J fan since they have been around. I saw them on their first tour, unfortunately it was just after Jason Newsted left.


Greeg, did you know Eric Knutson's son was on American Idol?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dxEysNzEDo


He looks just like him. I'm trying to find a video with Eric in it. I do remember there being one where he was there. My understanding is that he did not grow up with Eric, and may not have even had contact with him. That's what I remember.


Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on June 27, 2018, 07:37:50 PM
Flotsam and Jetsam are absolutely amazing! Eric AK sings his balls off and their music is so powerful that if they don't energize your batteries you're probably already dead. Their last album was sick! This was our bands main influence and I was happy to hear them getting air play on sirius at least.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 27, 2018, 07:42:30 PM
Amen, Brother.

I'm going to spend some time with the Simpson/Neilson era over the next few days. Spun The Cold earlier. Have Unnatural Selection on right now. :metal :metal
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 27, 2018, 07:52:29 PM
@ Ytsejam..found this footage from Toads on YouTube. Saw this tour in Providence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHy2As50OqY
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: ozzy554 on June 27, 2018, 09:52:26 PM
I haven't listened much to Flotsam and Jetsam but thanks to this thread I've had Better Off Dead stuck in my head all day
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on June 29, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
 :metal

Why were bouncers such dicks? They threw out half the crowd lol

Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2019, 08:18:09 PM
F&J released their latest album last week.

(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Flotsam-and-Jetsam-The-End-of-Chaos-01-500x500.jpg)

This album is incredible.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2019, 08:26:34 PM
Hopefully the music is better than the cover art  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2019, 08:29:42 PM
It's better than the first draft:

(https://markozen.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/godzilla12.jpg?w=700)
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2019, 08:33:36 PM
I like the draft better actually - always had a soft spot for the Stay Puft marshmallow man.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2019, 08:35:17 PM
The world's most overrated movie.

Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on January 27, 2019, 07:22:56 AM
Man these guys just get better with age! I think the album artwork looks cool, better than DT's last few and upcoming anyway. Nevertheless, F&J rule. Eric AK is so awesome  :metal
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on December 19, 2019, 04:15:58 PM
Man, I love these guys. Just saw this clip on FB and made me realize how lucky we are to have bands like this still

https://www.facebook.com/kenmary1/videos/10215475537579543/
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on December 19, 2019, 04:49:28 PM
Awesome. Great tune.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on December 19, 2019, 04:52:57 PM
Gives me an excuse to post my pic with Ken Mary again!


Taken at the after show gathering at the Boston Garden.
Novenber 17, 1987


(https://i.imgur.com/Ort7vd4.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on March 29, 2021, 06:44:44 PM
@ Rodrigo..

https://bravewords.com/news/flotsam-and-jetsam-launch-new-album-teaser-video


They have something going on at Sonic Perspectives on Friday?
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: Samsara on May 11, 2021, 11:49:58 AM
So I've been listening to my promo copy of the new Flotsam. HOLY SHIT, what an incredible record. I'm a casual fan of Flotsam. I know a bit of the old stuff, and then paid attention when one of my favorite drummers, Ken Mary joined. Well, Blood in the Water builds on the last album in a HUGE way.

Thrash, technical, powerful, melodic. INCREDIBLE album. DO NOT hesitate to buy it when it is released. Just intensity from start to finish. whenever we get back to concerts, Flotsam is on the list for me. I meant to go on the last tour (they played a tiny club near me), but had a conflict. I won't miss them the next time.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 12:32:14 PM
I'm on it as soon as it's released!
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 04:42:49 PM
Been starting to dig into this band.  Spun the End of Chaos twice and it's a ball cruncher, love it!  I've checked on Tim's suggestion to No Place for Disgrace and am now checking the re-recorded version, which is cool.  Some amazing riffing on here actually, really good.  I think I'll work backwards and maybe go the self titled next.

Damn, they have a lot of albums.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 04:44:02 PM
So I've been listening to my promo copy of the new Flotsam. HOLY SHIT, what an incredible record. I'm a casual fan of Flotsam. I know a bit of the old stuff, and then paid attention when one of my favorite drummers, Ken Mary joined. Well, Blood in the Water builds on the last album in a HUGE way.

Thrash, technical, powerful, melodic. INCREDIBLE album. DO NOT hesitate to buy it when it is released. Just intensity from start to finish. whenever we get back to concerts, Flotsam is on the list for me. I meant to go on the last tour (they played a tiny club near me), but had a conflict. I won't miss them the next time.

Noted.

Have been starting to watch through this the last couple of nights too;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhmOPbUB-I&t=1152s

Fuck, they smoke live.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 04:47:33 PM
I think I'll work backwards and maybe go the self titled next.

Damn, they have a lot of albums.

I actually listened to the self titled today. That's a great album.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 05:09:31 PM
Chris Poland on Misguided Fortune??
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Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 05:23:34 PM
And The Jones.  Yep, that's him for sure, nice.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 05:51:52 PM
Does Chris Poland guest on the No Place re-record? I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 06:39:59 PM
Does Chris Poland guest on the No Place re-record? I didn't know that.

It's unmistakably him on those two tracks.  I'm just going by ear but I'd have to look it up to confirm.  Tone, style, phrasing, gotta be him.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 06:42:52 PM
I don't have it, and honestly, I've never heard it. The original No Place is an iconic album for me and it's perfect the way it is.


You must have an amazing ear. I wouldn't know a Chis Poland style if he plugged in his amp in my living room.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 06:44:18 PM
I really could do without the Elton John cover.  WTF is up with that?
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 06:44:42 PM
yeah, it was an odd choice.
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Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 06:47:12 PM
Halfway through the self titled and this is a good one too.  A bit more variety and an old school feel to Chaos, which is nice and it's some stomping metal.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 06:53:40 PM
The s/t has a lot more of an old school feel. A song like Life Is A Mess has a classic feel. Plus Jason Bittner's drumming is quite reminiscent of Kelly Smith's.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 07:15:49 PM
Here's a Kade approved song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8JSYPN5ENI
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 07:28:50 PM
The s/t has a lot more of an old school feel. A song like Life Is A Mess has a classic feel. Plus Jason Bittner's drumming is quite reminiscent of Kelly Smith's.

That one so far was indeed a highlight.  Love the groovy Verge of Tragedy too.  The rest will be played on the way home. 
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 07:29:11 PM
Here's a Kade approved song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8JSYPN5ENI

I'll confirm later.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 07:36:12 PM
Here's a Kade approved song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8JSYPN5ENI

I'll confirm later.

The song title is approved at least!






I'm going to try and scan some concert pics in tomorrow.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 08:51:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp5LWT3VDQA

NE Terror from New Haven 7/17/90. I literally saw them the night before on the 16th in Providence in a club that was easily half the size of this.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2021, 05:35:20 AM
Here's a Kade approved song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8JSYPN5ENI

Ha!  Didn't expect that but love this sort of shit.  Way more 90's influenced than the last couple I've been listening to.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2021, 05:42:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp5LWT3VDQA

NE Terror from New Haven 7/17/90. I literally saw them the night before on the 16th in Providence in a club that was easily half the size of this.

Love the bass here.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on May 12, 2021, 07:11:36 AM
Here's a Kade approved song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8JSYPN5ENI

Ha!  Didn't expect that but love this sort of shit.  Way more 90's influenced than the last couple I've been listening to.

I thought you'd like the title. ;D

It's an interesting song musically, but it's a bit different than the rest of the album it's on. That album is METAL!

It's from 1999's Unnatural Selection. It's the first album after they switched two original members, with Mark Simpson replacing guitarist Michael Gilbert, and Craig Neilsen replacing drummer Kelly Smith.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp5LWT3VDQA

NE Terror from New Haven 7/17/90. I literally saw them the night before on the 16th in Providence in a club that was easily half the size of this.

Love the bass here.


Yeah, that's Troy Gregory, who played on No Place and When The Storm Comes Down. He was great live, but those two albums stand out on top for me. I loved his influence.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2021, 12:41:48 AM
I'll get onto US then next.
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Post by: Grappler on June 03, 2021, 06:59:51 PM
This new record smokes!  I never really dug the last one for some reason, but the new one has a lot of aggression in the riffs, which I love! 
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2021, 02:06:13 PM
This album...

(https://monophy.com/media/69AKo8E5BdsEM6G6Gh/monophy.gif)

..is FUCKING AMAZING!
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2021, 05:20:06 PM
Can't wait to check it out.  Hoping there's a chance I'll be able to grab a copy instore, but I think that's a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2021, 05:27:32 PM
I'm waiting for my Father's Day Amazon card, so it'll be a couple of weeks before I have my own copy.

This is a great album though.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2021, 03:11:58 AM
Bah, why would I think this would be available in store.  :lol
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 03:57:42 AM
Yeah, streaming this one now, it's a cracker.  Similar to the last one but just excellent.  The Walls is fucking beyond amazing.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 06, 2021, 07:31:12 AM
The Walls is so damn catchy. That should’ve been a single.
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2021, 01:38:59 PM
The Walls is so damn catchy. That should’ve been a single.

It's out of the same mould as Recover from the last album.  Fucking love that one too.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on June 22, 2021, 08:26:49 PM
Had a couple of more listens to Blood In The Water over the past couple of days. This album is amazing. One song I've been really digging, buried in the back half of the album, is Reagression. That tune rips.

And holy shit, Ken Mary! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 23, 2021, 04:40:04 AM
So I have a confession to make and i'm not joking here, i've heard the name Flotsam and Jetsam before but for some reason always assumed (i'm being real) it was a country/folk band or something like that. I recently saw Ken Mary playing a cover and new nothing about him and did some googling and found out he played in this band. "Oh cool, versatile drummer" I thought, had a search.... thrash metal   :omg: :lol

Maybe i've mixed them with some other group?
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2021, 04:46:32 AM
So I have a confession to make and i'm not joking here, i've heard the name Flotsam and Jetsam before but for some reason always assumed (i'm being real) it was a country/folk band or something like that. I recently saw Ken Mary playing a cover and new nothing about him and did some googling and found out he played in this band. "Oh cool, versatile drummer" I thought, had a search.... thrash metal   :omg: :lol

Maybe i've mixed them with some other group?

I never thought they were country but I only started checking them out about a month ago.  I didn't think they were thrash, but I don't know what I thought they were.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on June 24, 2021, 05:05:56 AM
Troy Gregory was sick and it's too bad things didn't work out with him.

Unnatural Selection and High are their two worst albums. Everything else is gold! I just got the new CD and will pop it's cherry today!  :metal
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Post by: TAC on June 24, 2021, 06:55:34 PM
Cool interview with Ken Mary. He seems like a great dude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNefvXQHa4A
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Post by: TAC on July 04, 2021, 11:04:29 AM
F&J's first album, Doomsday For The Deceiver, was released 35 years ago today! :metal

Gonna have to spin it today.
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Post by: YtseJam on July 05, 2021, 07:40:21 AM
Good idea! I remember in high school my girlfriend would say I was the desecrator when that song would play. I used to let her drive my truck if she'd do it topless and she had big ones. So picture a chevy truck with bouncing boobs blasting Flotsam coming at ya!  :metal
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Post by: TAC on July 05, 2021, 07:58:27 AM
 :lol

WOW!

Can't wait to hear your Hammerhead story. :lol
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2021, 05:54:52 PM
I purchased a cheap mp3 copy of this for the car.  Pumping it on the way to work this morning and holy shit, this album is fucking incredible.  I thought it was solid when I first streamed it but this fucking rips!  Gotta get a copy on CD.  You can't help but to feel more manly listening to this shit.  Some barnstorming riffing going on here.  fucking powerful!
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Post by: TAC on July 05, 2021, 07:12:15 PM
  You can't help but to feel more manly listening to this shit.

 :lol

Definitely. This is a great album.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2021, 07:15:29 PM
  You can't help but to feel more manly listening to this shit.

 :lol

Definitely. This is a great album.

Haha, it's true.  Fucking blistering album.  :metal
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Post by: YtseJam on July 05, 2021, 08:07:38 PM
:lol

WOW!

Can't wait to hear your Hammerhead story. :lol

She loved that too. Damn, why did I dump her?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2021, 06:17:59 AM
I'm very selective lately about what cd's I buy now but I ordered Blood in the Water, this album is blistering.  Ordered a copy of End of Chaos as that was in stock too.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on September 02, 2021, 06:35:11 AM
That’s money we’ll spent. The s/t before The End Of Chaos is great as well. They’ve been on quite a run.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2021, 04:24:28 PM
That’s money we’ll spent. The s/t before The End Of Chaos is great as well. They’ve been on quite a run.

Yeah that was a good one too, I probably would have gotten that too if it was in stock where I got it from.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2021, 10:46:20 AM
Flotsam 1985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N_VgD8hfYo

AK, that hair?? :facepalm:

Love the Cactus guy intro.
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Post by: YtseJam on September 10, 2021, 05:05:33 PM
They actually sounded great even though they looked like my sister. There must have been 10 people and 1 cactus there.  :metal
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2021, 05:06:54 PM
They actually sounded great even though they looked like my sister. There must have been 10 people and 1 cactus there.  :metal

Lol.  I forgot Tim posted this, will have a squizz later.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
Flotsam 1985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N_VgD8hfYo

AK, that hair?? :facepalm:

Love the Cactus guy intro.

Eric sounds amazing here, and all round a ripper performance from all really.

The cactus thing was classic and the crowd of 10 people was fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2021, 02:22:33 PM
Got my cd's of the last two albums and been spinning them the last couple of days.  These guys are fucking amazing.  2 incredible balls out metal records.  So underrated.

The new one will easily be top 3 of the year for me.
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Post by: YtseJam on September 22, 2021, 05:18:15 PM
AMEN!
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Post by: TAC on June 20, 2022, 02:44:00 PM
Flots' set at Hellfest Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpP6MnGTc7o

Great set.



I just sat and watched the whole thing. WOW!!

Apparently their drummer Ken Mary had a passport issue and can't do the Euro tour. The drummer here is Marco Prij from Cryptosis. The kid is only 26. Learned the set in a week.

Mary's passport issue was that to go to Europe, you must have at least 90 days left on your passport expiration, but he only had 72, and seems to have been stopped at the airport. Yikes...and the band still pulled this off. Amazing band.


And holy shit, I'd swear that was Melphina on bass.
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Post by: nick_z on June 20, 2022, 07:29:51 PM
Flots' set at Hellfest Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpP6MnGTc7o

Great set.



I just sat and watched the whole thing. WOW!!

Apparently their drummer Ken Mary had a passport issue and can't do the Euro tour. The drummer here is Marco Prij from Cryptosis. The kid is only 26. Learned the set in a week.

Mary's passport issue was that to go to Europe, you must have at least 90 days left on your passport expiration, but he only had 72, and seems to have been stopped at the airport. Yikes...and the band still pulled this off. Amazing band.


And holy shit, I'd swear that was Melphina on bass.

Neat!

Oh, and speaking of Cryptosis...their 2021 album, Bionic Swarm, is great!
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Post by: TAC on June 20, 2022, 07:36:48 PM

Oh, and speaking of Cryptosis...their 2021 album, Bionic Swarm, is great!

Listening now. Wow, I like it. Was expecting the worst for the vocals but these are fine. Old school thrashy.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: nick_z on June 20, 2022, 07:42:51 PM

Oh, and speaking of Cryptosis...their 2021 album, Bionic Swarm, is great!

Listening now. Wow, I like it. Was expecting the worst for the vocals but these are fine. Old school thrashy.

Yes, there is some excellent riffage in there!
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2022, 08:11:43 PM
Flots' set at Hellfest Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpP6MnGTc7o

Great set.



I just sat and watched the whole thing. WOW!!

Apparently their drummer Ken Mary had a passport issue and can't do the Euro tour. The drummer here is Marco Prij from Cryptosis. The kid is only 26. Learned the set in a week.

Mary's passport issue was that to go to Europe, you must have at least 90 days left on your passport expiration, but he only had 72, and seems to have been stopped at the airport. Yikes...and the band still pulled this off. Amazing band.


And holy shit, I'd swear that was Melphina on bass.

I'll preview this later.  Great live band from the footage I've seen.
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2022, 05:23:08 AM
Flots' set at Hellfest Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpP6MnGTc7o

Great set.



I just sat and watched the whole thing. WOW!!

Apparently their drummer Ken Mary had a passport issue and can't do the Euro tour. The drummer here is Marco Prij from Cryptosis. The kid is only 26. Learned the set in a week.

Mary's passport issue was that to go to Europe, you must have at least 90 days left on your passport expiration, but he only had 72, and seems to have been stopped at the airport. Yikes...and the band still pulled this off. Amazing band.


And holy shit, I'd swear that was Melphina on bass.

This fucking rips!  :metal
Title: Re: Anyone else get the new Flotsam and Jetsam?
Post by: YtseJam on July 10, 2022, 05:47:48 PM
Flots' set at Hellfest Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpP6MnGTc7o

Great set.



I just sat and watched the whole thing. WOW!!

Apparently their drummer Ken Mary had a passport issue and can't do the Euro tour. The drummer here is Marco Prij from Cryptosis. The kid is only 26. Learned the set in a week.

Mary's passport issue was that to go to Europe, you must have at least 90 days left on your passport expiration, but he only had 72, and seems to have been stopped at the airport. Yikes...and the band still pulled this off. Amazing band.


And holy shit, I'd swear that was Melphina on bass.

This fucking rips!  :metal

 :metal :metal :metal :coolio :hat

These guys have an amazing catalog. I can't get enough