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Title: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on April 12, 2016, 06:33:09 PM
Hello and welcome! This is my first try at a survivor and what better way to start than with my all time favorite band. Here's how it's going to work: the top two songs from each album will automatically advance to the finals while the third place song form each album will make it to the consolation round. The top three songs from the consolation round will then advance to the finals. I will not be running this in chronological order. I will instead be running it in reverse order of my favorites so that the next album up will be a surprise every time except for the last. I will be starting with non album tracks which will include the four Beyond Magnetic songs, the two songs written special for S&M, I Dissapear, and Lords of Summer. To prevent multiple tiebreaker rounds, I will not vote in a tiebreaker round and will use my absent vote as a second tiebreaker in the event that the first tiebreaker round ends in a draw. Before the start of the consolation round, I will be running an album survivor as well. Please refer to this thread if you have any questions or suggestions. Have fun and may the best song win!


KILL 'EM ALL

01: The Four Horsemen
02: Seek & Destroy
03: Hit the Lights
04: No Remorse
05: Jump in the Fire
06: Whiplash
07: Phantom Lord
08: Motorbreath
09: Metal Militia
10: (Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth

RIDE THE LIGHTNING

01: Fade to Black
02: For Whom the Bell Tolls
03: Creeping Death
04: The Call of Ktulu
05: Ride the Lightning
06: Fight Fire With Fire
07: Trapped Under Ice
08: Escape

MASTER OF PUPPETS

01: Master of Puppets
02: Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
03: Orion
04: Battery
05: Disposable Heroes
06: Damage Inc.
07: The Thing That Should Not Be
08: Leper Messiah

...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL

01: One
02: Blackened
03: ...And Justice For All
04: The Frayed Ends of Sanity
05: Dyer's Eve
06: Eye of the Beholder
07: To Live is to Die
08: Harvester of Sorrow
09: The Shortest Straw

THE BLACK ALBUM

01: The Unforgiven
02: Wherever I May Roam
03: Sad But True
04: Enter Sandman
05: Nothing Else Matters
06: Through the Never
07: My Friend of Misery
08: Of Wolf and Man
09: The God That Failed
10: Holier Than Thou
11: Don't Tread on Me
12: The Struggle Within

LOAD

01: Bleeding Me
02: Until it Sleeps
03: The Outlaw Torn
04: The House Jack Built
05: Ain't My Bitch
06: Hero of the Day
07: King Nothing
08: Mama Said
09: 2x4
10: Thorn Within
11: Wasting My Hate
12: Cure
13: Poor Twisted Me
14: Ronnie

RELOAD

01: The Unforgiven II
02: Low Man's Lyric
03: Fixxxer
04: Fuel
05: The Memory Remains
06: Where the Wild Things Are
07: Devil's Dance
08: Carpe Diem Baby
09: Prince Charming
10: Slither
11: Attitude
12: Better Than You
13: Bad Seed

ST. ANGER

01: The Unnamed Feeling
02: Frantic
03: St. Anger
04: Some Kind of Monster
05: Sweet Amber
06: Invisible Kid
07: All Within My Hands
08: Shoot Me Again
09: Dirty Window
10: My World
11: Purify

DEATH MAGNETIC

01: All Nightmare Long
02: The Day That Never Comes
03: That Was Just Your Life
04: The End of the Line
05: The Unforgiven III
06: Cyanide
07: The Judas Kiss
08: Broken, Beat & Scarred
09: My Apocalypse
10: Suicide & Redemption

HARDWIRED...TO SELF DESTRUCT (post finals)

01: Halo on Fire
02: Spit Out the Bone
03: Moth Into Flame
04: Now That We're Dead
05: Dream No More
06: Am I Savage?
07: Atlas, Rise!
08: Here Comes Revenge
09: Hardwired
10: Confusion
11: Lords of Summer (new version)
12: ManUNkind
13: Murder One

NON ALBUM TRACKS

01: No Leaf Clover
02: Rebel of Babylon
03: Just a Bullet Away
04: I Disappear
05: Hell and Back
06: -Human
07: Hate Train
08: Lords of Summer (old version)

ALBUMS TOURNAMENT

01: Master of Puppets
02: ...And Justice For All
03: Ride the Lightning
04: The Black Album
05: Kill 'Em All
06: Death Magnetic
07: Load
08: ReLoad
09: St. Anger

CONSOLATIONS

01: Creeping Death
02: Orion
03: ...And Justice For All
04: Sad But True
05: The Outlaw Torn
06: Hit the Lights
07: That Was Just Your Life
08: Fixxxer
09: St. Anger
10: Just a Bullet Away

FINALS

01: Master of Puppets
02: One
03: Fade to Black
04: Blackened
05: Creeping Death
06: ...And Justice For All
07: Orion
08: The Unforgiven
09: Wherever I May Roam
10: The Four Horsemen
11: Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
12: For Whom the Bell Tolls
13: Until it Sleeps
14: Bleeding Me
15: The Unforgiven II
16: Seek & Destroy
17: Low Man's Lyric
18: No Leaf Clover
19: All Nightmare Long
20: The Day That Never Comes
21: Frantic
22: Rebel of Babylon
23: The Unnamed Feeling
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: CharlesPL on April 12, 2016, 07:16:00 PM
Good luck i'm in ! :)
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on April 12, 2016, 11:32:26 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Zydar on April 13, 2016, 12:15:33 AM
I'm in for pretty much every album.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Adami on April 13, 2016, 12:18:26 AM
METALLICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Train of Naught on April 13, 2016, 12:27:31 AM
Awesome! Will be participating in pretty much everything (though maybe not in Reload and St. Anger). I love most of the non-album songs, haven't listened to the Beyond the Magnetic songs in quite a while but I remember liking at least two of them.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Tomislav95 on April 13, 2016, 03:14:06 AM
This may be chance to learn post-Black Album albums better. I know few songs from every of those albums but it's not cool to vote for song you don't know. But I'm in for first 5 albums for sure.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on April 13, 2016, 03:17:35 AM
I'm in!  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Mladen on April 13, 2016, 04:47:21 AM
In for all of it aside from non-album tracks.  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: jakepriest on April 13, 2016, 04:56:50 AM
In for all of it aside from non-album tracks.  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on April 13, 2016, 05:04:20 AM
:metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Outcrier on April 13, 2016, 05:21:12 AM
Like Hetfield says: oh yeah!

In other hand, what about Lulu? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on April 13, 2016, 06:02:21 AM
Like Hetfield says: oh yeah!

In other hand, what about Lulu? :neverusethis:

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! No...

In all seriousness though, Lulu isn't technically a Metallica album. It's a Lou Reed album with Metallica as his backing band. Since it's not full on Metallica and none of the songs stand a chance in the full tournament, I elected not to include it.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Outcrier on April 13, 2016, 06:05:41 AM
In all seriousness though, Lulu isn't technically a Metallica album. It's a Lou Reed album with Metallica as his backing band.

I know, just joking  :D
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: cramx3 on April 13, 2016, 08:30:48 AM
Im in
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2016, 08:42:56 AM
I'm in
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on April 13, 2016, 08:59:41 AM
I AM THE THORN WITHIN
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Outcrier on April 13, 2016, 09:19:03 AM
I can't vote, cause i am the table  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 13, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
Wherever I may vote
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on April 13, 2016, 10:39:59 AM
Don't go looking for polls you might find them.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on April 13, 2016, 10:59:55 AM
I'm in for pretty much every album.

Yep! This will give me a reason to do the Metallica discography run that I've been meaning to do for a few weeks now.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Outcrier on April 13, 2016, 11:06:58 AM
A Metallica and Iron Maiden survivor running at the same time.

What a time to be alive, folks  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Onno on April 13, 2016, 11:22:19 AM
YEAH
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on April 13, 2016, 11:56:25 AM
I'm in for every album except St. Anger; will there be just a third place for consolations or albums with more songs will get also the fourth song to consolations?

And can we send Ride and Master entirely to the finals and save some time?  :lol
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on April 13, 2016, 12:02:23 PM
I'm in for every album except St. Anger; will there be just a third place for consolations or albums with more songs will get also the fourth song to consolations?

And can we send Ride and Master entirely to the finals and save some time?  :lol

I think that Ride is a bottom half song on it's own album!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on April 13, 2016, 01:21:33 PM
I'm in for every album except St. Anger; will there be just a third place for consolations or albums with more songs will get also the fourth song to consolations?

And can we send Ride and Master entirely to the finals and save some time?  :lol

There will just be third place consolations.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 14, 2016, 08:27:55 AM
Sweet I'm in!!  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on April 22, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
Results from the non album round.

01: No Leaf Clover
02: Rebel of Babylon
03: Just a Bullet Away
04: I Disappear
05: Hell and Back
06: -Human
07: Hate Train
08: Lords of Summer

Now we move onto Load.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on May 09, 2016, 12:59:46 PM
Results from the Load tournament.

01: Bleeding Me
02: Until it Sleeps
03: The Outlaw Torn
04: The House Jack Built
05: Ain't My Bitch
06: Hero of the Day
07: King Nothing
08: Mama Said
09: 2x4
10: Thorn Within
11: Wasting My Hate
12: Cure
13: Poor Twisted Me
14: Ronnie

Next up is St. Anger.

I am also changing the amount of songs from the consolation round that will advance to the finals from the top two to the top three. This rule change will be reflected in the original post.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on May 09, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
IMO, the best song on Load is Bleeding Me, so good result!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on May 20, 2016, 05:49:36 PM
Results from the St. Anger tournament.

01: The Unnamed Feeling
02: Frantic
03: St. Anger
04: Some Kind of Monster
05: Sweet Amber
06: Invisible Kid
07: All Within My Hands
08: Shoot Me Again
09: Dirty Window
10: My World
11: Purify

We continue tomorrow with ReLoad.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on June 04, 2016, 08:21:00 PM
Results from the ReLoad tournament.

01: The Unforgiven II
02: Low Man's Lyric
03: Fixxxer
04: Fuel
05: The Memory Remains
06: Where the Wild Things Are
07: Devil's Dance
08: Carpe Diem Baby
09: Prince Charming
10: Slither
11: Attitude
12: Better Than You
13: Bad Seed

The game continues tomorrow with Ride the Lightning.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on June 04, 2016, 08:55:10 PM
Just when I thought you couldn't get any further from me in terms of Metallica opinions, you go ahead and drop my favorite Metallica album in 6th place. :rollin
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Adami on June 04, 2016, 09:04:59 PM
........is Death Magnetic your number 1?

I think your order of albums is depressing me more than the Fixxxer not going to the finals.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on June 04, 2016, 09:10:04 PM
I don't think anything depresses me more than Fixxxer not going to the finals, but the album order is a close second.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on June 05, 2016, 03:32:51 AM
The game continues tomorrow with Ride the Lightning.

 :eek
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 05, 2016, 06:57:22 AM
Ride is probably my #5 right now but I don't like Death Magnetic :\
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on June 05, 2016, 07:38:13 AM
I do wanna make a point that the distance between my number 1 and 6 is minute while the separation between 6 and 7 through 9 is immense. I love Ride the Lightning but the problem is how short it is. Most albums have one or two tracks that are mediocre but the album is long enough (50 minutes or more) that those tracks don't seem like a big deal. At only 44 minutes in length, Ride the Lightning is too short to compensate for what I believe to be mediocre songs (Trapped Under Ice and Escape) and the fact that they're consecutive tracks on the album makes it worse. That's almost 10 minutes of a 40 minute album that's subpar. As good as the rest of the album is (and the other six songs are phenomenal), having a quarter of an album be way below the standard of the rest of it is a problem. Once again though, I do love this album. It's just the glaring drop in quality for a good chunk of it that puts it below five other albums that I feel don't have that problem.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on June 05, 2016, 12:30:33 PM
Well, that makes sense.

Still, I'd take Trapped Under Ice over the whole St. Anger and a good chunck of the Load / Reload albums  :lol
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on June 05, 2016, 11:38:57 PM
I do wanna make a point that the distance between my number 1 and 6 is minute while the separation between 6 and 7 through 9 is immense. I love Ride the Lightning but the problem is how short it is. Most albums have one or two tracks that are mediocre but the album is long enough (50 minutes or more) that those tracks don't seem like a big deal. At only 44 minutes in length, Ride the Lightning is too short to compensate for what I believe to be mediocre songs (Trapped Under Ice and Escape) and the fact that they're consecutive tracks on the album makes it worse. That's almost 10 minutes of a 40 minute album that's subpar. As good as the rest of the album is (and the other six songs are phenomenal), having a quarter of an album be way below the standard of the rest of it is a problem. Once again though, I do love this album. It's just the glaring drop in quality for a good chunk of it that puts it below five other albums that I feel don't have that problem.

RTL's actual length: 47:23
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on June 12, 2016, 05:22:56 PM
Results from the Ride the Lightning tournament.

01: Fade to Black
02: For Whom the Bell Tolls
03: Creeping Death
04: The Call of Ktulu
05: Ride the Lightning
06: Fight Fire With Fire
07: Trapped Under Ice
08: Escape

The game continues tomorrow with The Black Album.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 13, 2016, 08:26:17 AM
TBA?  :lol Your album rankings get more and more interesting. Should be an interesting album for DTF to rate as well. I personally think some of the "deeper cuts" on the second part of the record are better than some of the hits.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on June 13, 2016, 08:27:08 AM
My Friend of Misery for example is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 13, 2016, 08:27:43 AM
My Friend of Misery for example is gorgeous.

Yup, that and God that Failed are two of my favorites.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Zydar on June 13, 2016, 08:32:18 AM
My Friend of Misery for example is gorgeous.

Yup, that and God that Failed are two of my favorites.

The God That Failed is one of my favourite Metallica tracks ever.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on June 13, 2016, 08:37:09 AM
I was this close to quote that as well. The bass / drum intro is wonderful.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 13, 2016, 08:41:46 AM
It would be cool if we had albums survivor, too.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on June 13, 2016, 10:04:58 AM
The longer we go without Kill 'Em All falling the more confused I get.


It would be cool if we had albums survivor, too.

Yes, I would be interested in seeing how this goes on DTF.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: jakepriest on June 13, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
Yes, I would be interested in seeing how this goes on DTF.

I don't even have to see the results and I assure you that nobody will be happy.  :lol
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on June 13, 2016, 11:14:28 AM
My Friend of Misery for example is gorgeous.

That and Sad But True are my two favorites on the album.

It would be cool if we had albums survivor, too.

I am running an album survivor before I do the consolation round.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on June 13, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
Yes, I would be interested in seeing how this goes on DTF.

I don't even have to see the results and I assure you that nobody will be happy.  :lol

Honestly, I'm starting think that most of their albums are close enough in quality that I won't be too upset about most likely rankings... but I probably won't be happy about where KEA, which I rate below everything but SA, ends up.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 13, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
I am running an album survivor before I do the consolation round.

Sweet!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: CharlesPL on June 14, 2016, 08:06:09 AM
8. The Call of Ktulu
7. Escape
6. For Whom the Bell Tolls
5. Ride the Lightning
4. Trapped Under Ice
3. Creeping Death
2. Fight Fire With Fire
1. Fade to Black

Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on June 24, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Results from The Black Album tournament.

01: The Unforgiven
02: Wherever I May Roam
03: Sad But True
04: Enter Sandman
05: Nothing Else Matters
06: Through the Never
07: My Friend of Misery
08: Of Wolf and Man
09: The God That Failed
10: Holier Than Thou
11: Don't Tread on Me
12: The Struggle Within

The game continues tomorrow with Kill 'Em All.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on June 24, 2016, 08:38:15 PM
Finally my least favorite non-St. Anger album drops!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Adami on June 24, 2016, 08:51:01 PM
So after Kill em All, we got.........MoP, AJFA, and.......Death Magnetic?

Man, I hope DM isn't number 1.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on June 24, 2016, 09:49:20 PM
DM is number 1.

FTFM.. :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on June 24, 2016, 11:01:35 PM
Results from The Black Album tournament.

01: The Unforgiven
02: Wherever I May Roam
03: Sad But True
04: Enter Sandman
05: Nothing Else Matters
06: Through the Never
07: My Friend of Misery
08: Of Wolf and Man
09: The God That Failed
10: Holier Than Thou
11: Don't Tread on Me
12: The Struggle Within

The game continues tomorrow with Kill 'Em All.

Not a bad result, here's mine:
#1: My Friend Of Misery
#2: The Unforgiven
#3: Wherever I May Roam
#4: Enter Sandman
#5: Sad But True
#6: Nothing Else Matters
#7: Through The Never
#8: The Struggle Within
#9: Holier Than Thou
10. The God That Failed
11. Of Wolf & Man
12. Don't Tread On Me
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 25, 2016, 01:18:08 AM
MoP is number 1. I'm pretty sure it's Count's all time favorite album :tup
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: CharlesPL on June 28, 2016, 09:09:33 AM
My ranking :

01: Enter Sandman
02: Sad But True
03: Of Wolf and Man
04: Nothing Else Matters
05: Holier Than Thou
06: Through the Never   
07: The Unforgiven
08. My Friend of Misery
09: Wherever I May Roam
10. The God That Failed 
11: The Struggle Within
12: Don't Tread on Me
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 05, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
Results from the Kill 'Em All tournament.

01: The Four Horsemen
02: Seek & Destroy
03: Hit the Lights
04: No Remorse
05: Jump in the Fire
06: Whiplash
07: Phantom Lord
08: Motorbreath
09: Metal Militia
10: (Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth

The game continues tomorrow with Death Magnetic.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Adami on July 05, 2016, 08:35:34 PM
Oh thank Xenu.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on July 05, 2016, 09:14:53 PM
The best one already?... Mmmmm, okay.... The good news is I'll have to listen to it by tomorrow.. :)
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Train of Naught on July 06, 2016, 12:37:31 AM
The best one already?...
W.. What..? You're aware that we're in the top 3 right now right? I don't think 'already' applies, no matter how good you think dm is.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Elite on July 06, 2016, 04:52:04 AM
I can't even remember what half the songs on DM sound like. All I know is that the boring instrumental should go out first.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Bolsters on July 06, 2016, 05:01:09 AM
All I know is that the boring Unforgiven III should go out first.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 06, 2016, 05:20:33 AM
I can't even remember what half the songs on DM sound like. All I know is that the boring instrumental should go out first.

All I know is that the boring Unforgiven III should go out first.


 :tdwn
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on July 06, 2016, 07:14:54 AM
Suicide & Redemption and The Unforgiven III are like the best ones. Y'all are super wrong.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Bolsters on July 06, 2016, 07:18:58 AM
I think Unforgiven III is one of the worst things they've ever done outside of St. Anger or Lulu. :loser:
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Train of Naught on July 06, 2016, 07:21:30 AM
I'd put Unforgiven III in the top 3 easily, but S&R can go out as one of the first 3 or so, it it were up to me. But come on, no one mentioned My Apocalypse? That's easily one of my least favorite Metallica songs not counting St. Anger!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 06, 2016, 07:24:42 AM
Yeah I like Unforgiven III, but S&R was a pretty boring instrumental track. That'll probably get my first vote.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on July 06, 2016, 07:31:37 AM
I'd put Unforgiven III in the top 3 easily, but S&R can go out as one of the first 3 or so, it it were up to me. But come on, no one mentioned My Apocalypse? That's easily one of my least favorite Metallica songs not counting St. Anger!

Since in the last posts everyone is annoying each other expressing an opinion someone else doesn't agree with, I'll join in: if it was up to me, I'd have My Apocalypse WINNING the survivor.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on July 06, 2016, 07:34:09 AM
I'd put Unforgiven III in the top 3 easily, but S&R can go out as one of the first 3 or so, it it were up to me. But come on, no one mentioned My Apocalypse? That's easily one of my least favorite Metallica songs not counting St. Anger!

I love Metallica's instrumentals. I don't think S&R is quite as good as Ktulu, Orion or TLITD, but I think it's worthy of a place next to those three. But I suppose it was obvious in the RTL survivor that many people do not share my feelings about the instrumentals.

My Apocalypse will definitely be my first vote. Though it's not a bad song, it's definitely the weak spot on the album. But nothing on DM is among my least favorite Metallica songs. Aside from SA, those are all on Reload and KEA.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on July 06, 2016, 11:31:35 AM
The best one already?...
W.. What..? You're aware that we're in the top 3 right now right? I don't think 'already' applies, no matter how good you think dm is.

But it DOES matter.. I not only think is the undisputed number one, but also that is far, far... FAR better than both MoP and AJFA.. Besides a couple of pretty good songs, I don't get the love for them..
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on July 06, 2016, 10:33:59 PM
I agree with that on MOP. I think that one is probably their least melodic album and really just doesn't have as much to love as its massive reputation would make it seem. I think Orion is a stellar track. And I like Thingy a lot. The rest aren't bad, per se, but this album is not nearly as good as either its predecessor or its successor.

I'd put AJFA probably just above DM. I think both are really good albums that also have their problems. But One and To Live Is To Die are both among their best tracks, while S&R and The Unforgiven III aren't quite at their level (very good, though).

This seems about right?

RTL
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TBA
AJFA
DM
Load
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MOP
RL
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KEA
SA
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on July 07, 2016, 02:15:43 PM
This seems about right?

RTL
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TBA
AJFA
DM
Load
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MOP
RL
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KEA
SA

Not for me.. ;D

But at least you don't have MoP or KEA up in your ranking, as many other people, something I just don't get, and we share the best four, although in different order..

My own album ranking would be like this:

1- Death Magnetic

2- Metallica

(from here I don't really care much for the albums, just a few songs of each)

3- Ride the Lightning

4- ... And Justice for All

5- Kill'em All

6- St. Anger

7- Master of Puppets

8- Load

9- Reload
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on July 07, 2016, 06:25:51 PM
6- St. Anger

7- Master of Puppets
:omg:
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 07, 2016, 07:55:36 PM
6- St. Anger

7- Master of Puppets
:omg:

Yeah I'm not even the biggest St. Anger hater out there but it's crazy for someone to rank St. Anger over Master of Puppets. One record is so iconic it became the first metal album to be preserved in the U.S. Library of Congress while the other is often considered to be the worst metal album ever made. They aren't even close.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on July 07, 2016, 09:07:59 PM
Yeah, no way I'd put SA anywhere but last. But MOP is definitely very far from being their best album IMO.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on July 07, 2016, 11:27:59 PM
6- St. Anger

7- Master of Puppets
:omg:

Yeah I'm not even the biggest St. Anger hater out there but it's crazy for someone to rank St. Anger over Master of Puppets. One record is so iconic it became the first metal album to be preserved in the U.S. Library of Congress while the other is often considered to be the worst metal album ever made. They aren't even close.

Fortunately, I don't get carried away by what most people think or what any library has to say about an album of music.. ;)

I think MoP is a great song, and Battery is good.. Well, the same goes respectively to SA and Frantic.. The difference is that I don't like any of the rest of the songs in MoP, while I enjoy a couple in SA (DW and SMA).. Having said that, I don't feel SA is clearly better than the other one; they ARE actually very close IMO.. Idc about what the world has to say about it.. :eek
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 08, 2016, 06:44:07 AM
6- St. Anger

7- Master of Puppets
:omg:

Yeah I'm not even the biggest St. Anger hater out there but it's crazy for someone to rank St. Anger over Master of Puppets. One record is so iconic it became the first metal album to be preserved in the U.S. Library of Congress while the other is often considered to be the worst metal album ever made. They aren't even close.

This coming from the guy who ranks DM higher than TBA  :lol
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on July 08, 2016, 07:23:20 AM
Fortunately, I don't get carried away by what most people think or what any library has to say about an album of music.. ;)

While it changes nothing about the actual point (which is that other people's opinions shouldn't affect your own at all), the U.S. Library of Congress—one of the world's largest libraries—preserves material of cultural significance, and does not apply that singularly to books.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: CharlesPL on July 08, 2016, 08:08:57 AM
My Ranking

01: The Four Horsemen
No Remorse
Motorbreath
Whiplash
Phantom Lord
Hit the Lights
Seek & Destroy
Metal Militia
Jump in the Fire
(Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 08, 2016, 10:28:28 AM
6- St. Anger

7- Master of Puppets
:omg:

Yeah I'm not even the biggest St. Anger hater out there but it's crazy for someone to rank St. Anger over Master of Puppets. One record is so iconic it became the first metal album to be preserved in the U.S. Library of Congress while the other is often considered to be the worst metal album ever made. They aren't even close.

This coming from the guy who ranks DM higher than TBA  :lol

You make a valid point. :lol
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on July 08, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Fortunately, I don't get carried away by what most people think or what any library has to say about an album of music.. ;)

While it changes nothing about the actual point (which is that other people's opinions shouldn't affect your own at all), the U.S. Library of Congress—one of the world's largest libraries—preserves material of cultural significance, and does not apply that singularly to books.

Mmm, ok.. I somehow suspected that.. But I liked the pun showing the immeasurability of that example..
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 15, 2016, 07:49:12 PM
Results from the Death Magnetic tournament.

01: All Nightmare Long
02: The Day That Never Comes
03: That Was Just Your Life
04: The End of the Line
05: The Unforgiven III
06: Cyanide
07: The Judas Kiss
08: Broken, Beat & Scarred
09: My Apocalypse
10: Suicide & Redemption

The game continues tomorrow with ...And Justice For All.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Adami on July 15, 2016, 08:01:08 PM
Justice is going to be so depressing when my favorite song doesn't make top 5 :(

I'll probably just never be open again or something.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 15, 2016, 08:10:19 PM
Justice is going to be so depressing when my favorite song doesn't make top 5 :(

I'll probably just never be open again or something.

These last two albums are gonna be very hard for me to judge because there are so many songs between them that I want to see in the finals but there's only room for two to three from each album. There's songs like The Shortest Straw and Damage Inc. that I think deserve a spot in the finals but they may not even make it to the consolation round. It's gonna be difficult to see most of these songs on both remaining albums get eliminated.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Adami on July 15, 2016, 08:13:59 PM
Justice is going to be so depressing when my favorite song doesn't make top 5 :(

I'll probably just never be open again or something.

These last two albums are gonna be very hard for me to judge because there are so many songs between them that I want to see in the finals but there's only room for two to three from each album. There's songs like The Shortest Straw and Damage Inc. that I think deserve a spot in the finals but they may not even make it to the consolation round. It's gonna be difficult to see most of these songs on both remaining albums get eliminated.

That's how I feel about Justice. I would love Dyers Eve to go to the finals, but it's going to be hard to argue why One, To Live is to Die, or Blackened shouldn't.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: 425 on July 15, 2016, 10:18:48 PM
Harvester of Sorrow.

And To Live Is To Die which is in my top 5 easily, but I also feel the need just to say: Harvester of Sorrow.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Outcrier on July 16, 2016, 01:35:55 AM
AJFA is the odd one since Frayed Ends is my favorite there but it's maybe the least favorite song of the album for most.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 16, 2016, 02:23:07 AM
I know what my first vote in AJFA survivor will be but I'm not sure about the rest.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on July 16, 2016, 04:10:46 AM
I have a clear winner in mind for Justice (like everyone else I guess) and a clear second, I'm undecided about the third slot...
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 26, 2016, 04:32:52 AM
Results from the ...And Justice For All tournament.

01: One
02: Blackened
03: ...And Justice For All
04: The Frayed Ends of Sanity
05: Dyer's Eve
06: Eye of the Beholder
07: To Live is to Die
08: Harvester of Sorrow
09: The Shortest Straw

The albums will be finished off later in the day with Master of Puppets.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: CharlesPL on July 27, 2016, 10:37:33 AM
My DM ranking

10. Suicide & Redemption
9. Broken, Beat & Scarred
8. My Apocalypse
7. The Judas Kiss
6. Cyanide
5. The Unforgiven III
4. The End of the Line
3. The Day That Never Comes
2. That Was Just Your Life
1. All Nightmare Long

AJFA :

9. ...And Justice For All
8. To Live is to Die
7. Blackened
6. The Shortest Straw
5. Harvester of Sorrow
4. Eye of the Beholder
3. The Frayed Ends of Sanity
2. Dyer's Eve
1.  One





Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on August 05, 2016, 09:40:56 AM
Results from the Master of Puppets tournament.

01: Master of Puppets
02: Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
03: Orion
04: Battery
05: Disposable Heroes
06: Damage Inc.
07: The Thing That Should Not Be
08: Leper Messiah

The albums tournament will begin tomorrow.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: SchecterShredder on August 05, 2016, 09:54:16 AM


The albums tournament will begin tomorrow.

Damn tournaments starting on the weekend! I spend far less time online on the weekends when I'm not tethered to my desk at work lol
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on August 14, 2016, 06:40:37 PM
Results from the albums tournament.

01: Master of Puppets
02: ...And Justice For All
03: Ride the Lightning
04: The Black Album
05: Kill 'Em All
06: Death Magnetic
07: Load
08: ReLoad
09: St. Anger

The consolations tournament begins tomorrow.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Progmetty on August 19, 2016, 12:33:01 AM
I suggest making a mock survivor of Hardwired where we vote just based on how we like the song titles and expectations based on that, then compare it to what we think when the album comes out. Could make for fun time.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on August 19, 2016, 01:06:23 AM
I suggest making a mock survivor of Hardwired where we vote just based on how we like the song titles and expectations based on that, then compare it to what we think when the album comes out. Could make for fun time.

Actually that would be a good idea for the lulz!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on August 19, 2016, 06:15:08 AM
I suggest making a mock survivor of Hardwired where we vote just based on how we like the song titles and expectations based on that, then compare it to what we think when the album comes out. Could make for fun time.

Actually that would be a good idea for the lulz!

I was thinking of running a mini survivor for the new album after a month of it being out so everyone has time to digest it. If enough people show interest, I may do both and run the first one right after the finals end.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on August 23, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
Results from the consolation round.

01: Creeping Death
02: Orion
03: ...And Justice For All
04: Sad But True
05: The Outlaw Torn
06: Hit the Lights
07: That Was Just Your Life
08: Fixxxer
09: St. Anger
10: Just a Bullet Away

Creeping Death, Orion, and ...And Justice For All advance to the finals. The survivor field is set. The finals begin tomorrow!
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on August 24, 2016, 07:35:32 PM
I ended up having a busy day today, so the finals will begin tomorrow.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on August 25, 2016, 08:26:59 AM
Sad But True should have won over Justice, damn! uh well, bring on the finals  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on August 25, 2016, 09:46:59 AM
Agreed.. They're miles away from each other..
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 23, 2016, 06:22:31 AM
Results from the finals.

01: Master of Puppets
02: One
03: Fade to Black
04: Blackened
05: Creeping Death
06: ...And Justice For All
07: Orion
08: The Unforgiven
09: Wherever I May Roam
10: The Four Horsemen
11: Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
12: For Whom the Bell Tolls
13: Until it Sleeps
14: Bleeding Me
15: The Unforgiven II
16: Seek & Destroy
17: Low Man's Lyric
18: No Leaf Clover
19: All Nightmare Long
20: The Day That Never Comes
21: Frantic
22: Rebel of Babylon
23: The Unnamed Feeling

Master of Puppets is your 2016 Metallica Survivor Champion! Thank you all so much for playing. I hope you all had as much fun playing this game as I did running it.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on September 23, 2016, 08:32:32 AM
Thank you for running it! Master is a very good choice as champion  :metal pity I couldn't get Creeping Death on the podium however!

For fun we should come up with a setlist from the pool of finalists, in the 17-20 songs range.

I'll give it my try, a "DTF Metallica finalists concert":

Blackened
Master of Puppets
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Bleeding Me
The Four Horsemen
The Unforgiven
The Unforgiven II
All Nightmare Long
...And Justice For All
Until it Sleeps
Orion
The Day That Never Comes
Wherever I May Roam
Creeping Death
===============
One
Fade to Black
Seek & Destroy
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 23, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
Blackened
The Four Horsemen
Creeping Death
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Wherever I May Roam
For Whom the Bell Tolls
...And Justice For All
The Unforgiven
The Unforgiven II
All Nightmare Long
Low Man's Lyric
No Leaf Clover
Frantic
Fade to Black
Master of Puppets

One
Orion
Seek & Destroy
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on September 23, 2016, 08:55:19 AM
a "DTF Metallica finalists concert":

The Unforgiven
The Unforgiven II

Well, if they play those two one after the other, the audience will expect the third part... which is the best of them btw.. ;)
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on September 23, 2016, 09:00:47 AM
They should do a medley, starting part II after two verses of the first, or something like that. And ending up with the last chapter.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 23, 2016, 09:40:23 AM
a "DTF Metallica finalists concert":

The Unforgiven
The Unforgiven II

Well, if they play those two one after the other, the audience will expect the third part... which is the best of them btw.. ;)

I'm glad that there's someone else who likes III the most.

They should do a medley, starting part II after two verses of the first, or something like that. And ending up with the last chapter.

But that takes away the first song's solo which is one of Kirk's best.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on September 23, 2016, 09:59:19 AM
Then you'll definitively not like the medley I've done of the three songs the last time I did a Metallica compilation for my mp3 player:

- Only first verse and chorus of the original
- Two verses and choruses of the second mixing it with the end of the song
- Out of the ending comes the last part of the third one, the final chorus only.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Mladen on September 24, 2016, 03:26:23 AM
That's one fine top 10.

Thanks for running the survivor, The Count.  :tup
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on December 18, 2016, 03:02:06 AM
So later today I am gonna start up a Hardwired...To Self Destruct survivor just for fun. I figured with the album out for a month today, people have had the time to digest it and can fairly judge what they like and don't like. The new version of Lords of Summer will be included making it a 12 round survivor with 13 songs.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: MirrorMask on December 18, 2016, 03:16:21 AM
Yay, more metallic fun for Christmas!  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Tomislav95 on December 18, 2016, 06:17:09 AM
Good occasion to finally try to get into it properly :tup
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 14, 2017, 02:23:52 AM
Results from the Hardwired...To Self-Destruct tournament.

01: Halo on Fire
02: Spit Out the Bone
03: Moth Into Flame
04: Now That We're Dead
05: Dream No More
06: Am I Savage?
07: Atlas, Rise!
08: Here Comes Revenge
09: Hardwired
10: Confusion
11: Lords of Summer
12: ManUNkind
13: Murder One

Halo on Fire is your HTSD album champion. Once again thank you all for playing.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: The Silent Cody on August 12, 2017, 06:45:56 PM
Hi, I will probably dig out that thread from the lungs of hell, but I was wondering are You going to run Metallica Survivor in 2017? Because if for some reasons You cannot, I can do it with honor and pleasure :) Please don't be offended with my question that I want to take Your place or sth like that ;) I just like DTF survivors :)
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: ToT-147 on August 12, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
I didn't participate in the Hardwired's survivor because I was still listening and processing the album back then and didn't want to be influenced by these results, as small as could've been the impact of them on me anyways..

Now, this bump is actually making me see that the only one song that is my clear favorite from the album was the actual winner of the survivor.. So wow to that.. Song is too obscure and yet so damn great, weird in a good way and melodically epic just like everything I happen to adore from the Metallica's songs I like the most..

Also, I think it's safe to say that HtSD is their finest work to date, right behind DM.. :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on August 13, 2017, 01:00:17 AM
Hi, I will probably dig out that thread from the lungs of hell, but I was wondering are You going to run Metallica Survivor in 2017? Because if for some reasons You cannot, I can do it with honor and pleasure :) Please don't be offended with my question that I want to take Your place or sth like that ;) I just like DTF survivors :)

I was actually thinking about doing it again starting in September. If there's enough people interested in participating again, I'll happily run it again. Now that I've actually run a full survivor and learned how it should be done, I feel like this one could be done better. Also, while I did run a HtSD survivor, I would love to see how the album fairs against the rest of their discography and how the new songs do in the full survivor.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: Adami on August 13, 2017, 01:06:35 AM
I would totally be down with a Metallica survivor.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: The Silent Cody on August 13, 2017, 01:55:33 AM
Yeah, I'm into it  :metal
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on August 14, 2017, 06:15:43 AM
There's a Metallica podcast that started up earlier in the year, "Metal Up Your Podcast", that's been pretty cool.  They've done album by album breakdowns, Top 10 Song lists, etc.  The two hosts are touring musicians.  So, they have a little different insight than your typical fans.

I'd be down for a Survivor.
Title: Re: Metallica Survivor: Main Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 14, 2017, 10:24:28 AM
There's a Metallica podcast that started up earlier in the year, "Metal Up Your Podcast", that's been pretty cool.  They've done album by album breakdowns, Top 10 Song lists, etc.  The two hosts are touring musicians.  So, they have a little different insight than your typical fans.

I'd be down for a Survivor.

I've been listening to that podcast, pretty good stuff.

I'd be in for a survivor.